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PussyPumper
08-08-20, 02:49
Thank you DogBert77 for the additional insight. So gentlemen, my first potential was actually a Pro (hope I used this term correctly) after we got more into discussion during the meet and greet lunch. She indicated her mother was part of that lifestyle and that's all she really knew. Her "female cousin" has suggested the idea for her to look for a sugar type relationship. It sounded more like a pimp to me when I made a joke about her cousin being one since she kept referring to her "cousin" every time she was absent when trying to get on the phone with her. Unfortunately another user ArrogantBstrd was actually spot on, she kept calling me babe and using lip emojis when addressing me through text. She is young (18), ready to meet, can host, and does not appear to have Covid symptoms. Pictures are highly accurate and she dresses exactly as advertised. No anal, no bare, and no cum on face due to eyelashes. She accepts PPM but is looking for an allowance. If this is up your alley, then good luck gents.
https://www.seeking.com/member/940bd3fa-c964-4228-82f1-18bd2fb46d28You must be joking, right? If anyone wants a pro, they should go to a pro board or site, like HX. This is the sort of woman I am on SA to avoid!
Any woman on SA who quotes by the hour / time is a pro.
Any woman who volunteers a "menu" and prices by item is a pro.
And then there are all the red flags in her profile.
"abused" = damaged, or playing fake sympathy card, or both.
"knows my worth" = GPS at least, possible pro.
"independent "+ "traveling" = As in she is traveling around. What can that can mean for an 18 year old? Hint. Pro.
"covid free"! Really? How would you know? How would she know? How many guys/day is she entertaining, given she is on HX??
And to round it all off, she is pimped!
EndlessOne
08-08-20, 12:18
You must be joking, right? If anyone wants a pro, they should go to a pro board or site, like HX. This is the sort of woman I am on SA to avoid!
Any woman on SA who quotes by the hour / time is a pro.
Any woman who volunteers a "menu" and prices by item is a pro.
And then there are all the red flags in her profile.
"abused" = damaged, or playing fake sympathy card, or both.
"knows my worth" = GPS at least, possible pro.
"independent "+ "traveling" = As in she is traveling around. What can that can mean for an 18 year old? Hint. Pro.
"covid free"! Really? How would you know? How would she know? How many guys/day is she entertaining, given she is on HX??
And to round it all off, she is pimped!I apologize Pussy Pumper, still new to the game and yes that makes sense I understand where you are coming from. You made really strong points and I'll take this information with great confidence for my next encounter. I have found another POT and will not discuss terms at all with her based on the feedback unless she does first. I'm going to try to take it slow, my other head has been overriding my thought process these past days.
PussyPumper
08-10-20, 02:01
Been on SA over a year. Anyone talked / seen / dated her?
https://www.seeking.com/member/44bb2eb1-10bd-426e-8af6-0deb85a31a2f
You can PM me if you don't want to post publicly.
Started texting immediately, broken ass English, claims willing to drive to me but wanted gas money up front.
https://www.seeking.com/member/b86f8464-067b-4bc2-8b50-cfcb54996318
OcasianBoy
08-12-20, 18:54
https://www.seeking.com/member/447c07e7-db5f-4e24-bc29-18f7610390ff
This girl is pretty new and don't know much acronyms but definitely has gps. After some negotiation, she went down to 5 benz. Way too high for an average looking girl with a kid already.
Pay to Play
08-14-20, 14:48
Here are a few reports.
https://www.seeking.com/member/89f1e02c-50ee-4720-abe1-bd60bc8ee405
Fake. Wanted money via CashApp for gas. I knew it was a scammer so I continued texting. She wanted 100 for gas and sent a bunch of naked pics trying to get me to commit.
https://www.seeking.com/member/79de257c-9fe1-4369-bb49-576c5fa0d49d
This one is interesting. Met her for car date for 2. She is deaf so no need to talk. Not really my style but good for a one and done.
Senior Leche
08-14-20, 15:26
Here are a few reports.
https://www.seeking.com/member/89f1e02c-50ee-4720-abe1-bd60bc8ee405
Fake. Wanted money via CashApp for gas. I knew it was a scammer so I continued texting. She wanted 100 for gas and sent a bunch of naked pics trying to get me to commit.
https://www.seeking.com/member/79de257c-9fe1-4369-bb49-576c5fa0d49d
This one is interesting. Met her for car date for 2. She is deaf so no need to talk. Not really my style but good for a one and done."She is deaf so no need to talk. " Line of the year! Thanks for the laugh.
"She is deaf so no need to talk. " Line of the year! Thanks for the laugh.Right? Kind of the definition of the perfect sugar baby, and perfect woman for that matter.
Pay to Play
08-16-20, 19:28
"She is deaf so no need to talk. " Line of the year! Thanks for the laugh.It's why I love going to TJ. No need to speak.
"She is deaf so no need to talk. " Line of the year! Thanks for the laugh.She's actually a pro-I've met her years ago through backpage.
The good thing is that you can call her derogatory names while fucking her.
Does anyone here use gift cards to pay for their seeking.com membership? Do you recommend any in particular?
Does anyone here use gift cards to pay for their seeking.com membership? Do you recommend any in particular?I use google play cards that I buy on Amazon but I think you can get them in stores and pay with cash. Downside is that you have to use the android app for using these.
FarFarAway
08-18-20, 13:36
Does anyone here use gift cards to pay for their seeking.com membership? Do you recommend any in particular?Widely discussed on the 'bible' of the sugar bowl, the archive of the Richmond VA sugar thread. OneVanilla prepaid debit cards still work. Make SURE it is exactly that. Available at any pharmacy / grocery.
Even within this forum, just search "Vanilla" or thread number 893 & beyond.
Pay to Play
08-21-20, 15:52
Does anyone here use gift cards to pay for their seeking.com membership? Do you recommend any in particular?And this it's why you keep a credit card in only your name. Just tell the Mrs. That you want to surprise her with gifts on the holidays without her seeing the bill before hand.
FarFarAway
08-21-20, 16:13
And this it's why you keep a credit card in only your name. Just tell the Mrs. That you want to surprise her with gifts on the holidays without her seeing the bill before hand.Sorry, but I think this is just very poor operational security. Recall that there was a breach of the old Ashley Madison site, they released names, phone #s, email addresses, credit card #s, everything. I got some extortion emails, I ignored them, thankfully no one followed up, I am sure there was too much volume.
It is COMPLETELY unnecessary to take this risk w / a card that is linked to you. Pre-paid cards work fine, they are bought with cash and can't themselves be traced. Why would you do anything else??
Was wondering if anyone has experience with the following cutie:
https://www.seeking.com/member/444eca4e-3d17-e517-bb1f-acdf9834b05f
Goes by Mandy. Also is on the following as Ivy:
https://members.whatsyourprice.com/profile/aXdyBZx98JOOjd2JNYVKQEML
Any insights, would be appreciated.
Sorry, but I think this is just very poor operational security. Recall that there was a breach of the old Ashley Madison site, they released names, phone #s, email addresses, credit card #s, everything. I got some extortion emails, I ignored them, thankfully no one followed up, I am sure there was too much volume.
It is COMPLETELY unnecessary to take this risk w / a card that is linked to you. Pre-paid cards work fine, they are bought with cash and can't themselves be traced. Why would you do anything else??This is precisely why I asked. The old lady does not have access to my statements, but I don't want an Ashley Madison repeat. I'm thankful that I was not caught on that one. Also, I'm thinking of bailing soon and don't want divorce attorneys combing through my finances and finding shit like that.
Does anyone here use gift cards to pay for their seeking.com membership? Do you recommend any in particular?Vanilla has worked for me in the past (December '19). Make sure to set a zip code by logging in prior to paying.
HorneyDog1C
08-24-20, 08:17
You're walking on some thin ice there Pete. Almost all attorneys check every social media site possible nowadays and their very adept at finding secret names, etc you believe are buried deep. Good luck.
JWalker350
08-25-20, 15:45
https://www.seeking.com/member/c72a3d86-3030-4578-a057-33aa6c0d36bd
Asking for 4 K-5 K per month. Told me she has 3-4 friends have allowances in that range.
https://www.seeking.com/member/468956ee-672f-477b-b7fb-08ea010c1e48
This girl is cheaper, just ask for $4 K per month.
https://www.seeking.com/member/c72a3d86-3030-4578-a057-33aa6c0d36bdI know that people want what they want, but please read her ABOUT ME section:
Petite but curvy, whip-smart grad student. Very presentable in public but very adventurous in private. I crave an ongoing escape with an exceptional man.
Looking for an *extremely* successful and generous older man (40+) who is presentable, tall, fit, respectful, confident but not arrogant, emotionally intelligent, well spoken, and sets himself apart. Wow me. You will be quite pleased with the result if you impress me. So impress me.
This average looking woman thinks she deserves all that! What is going on?
I blame social media. Women today gets so much attention already on sm platforms so that they are not grounded on reality. Probably early this year, I met a thick latina on IG. She's cute, thick at all the right places, just like another latina girl on IG. She just started on IG and only had 100+ followers. I think she had not much going on during the COVID, so she started to post revealing pictures, so her followers ballooned, so as her ego. Today, she just had over 100 K+ and she told me she gets 400+ DMS / night, guys has been offering her nudes for upwards of 100+.
I do believe there are men out there who are just feeding these women w / free money, like buying in on ONLYFANS and or buying semi nudes or just pretty pics. More and more women won't put out, but switching to "Online Gaming," ONLYFans, sell nudes. It's going to be the new normal, we'll just have to adapt and be more vigilant.
PussyPumper
08-26-20, 15:38
I blame social media. I saw this morning that some woman made over a million. A million! - in a single day on Onlyfans.
That is going to change the dynamics, unfortunately.
Pay to Play
08-27-20, 10:17
https://www.seeking.com/member/c72a3d86-3030-4578-a057-33aa6c0d36bd
Asking for 4 K-5 K per month. Told me she has 3-4 friends have allowances in that range.
https://www.seeking.com/member/468956ee-672f-477b-b7fb-08ea010c1e48
This girl is cheaper, just ask for $4 K per month.Maybe they get one dude short term at a price like that but it's not sustainable and they wouldn't still be on the site of they where getting that. I make my offer not to exceed 300 and move on. Negotiation is all about timing. It's amazing how many will come back a few weeks after saying no and agree to my offer. Also beginning of the month tends to yield better results. They got bills to pay.
John HandCock
08-27-20, 12:03
I saw this morning that some woman made over a million. A million! - in a single day on Onlyfans.
That is going to change the dynamics, unfortunately.This was Bella Thorne I believe and she said 2 million. Not going to change anything LOL. She has a big following and once they figure out she's not getting naked that 20 dollar monthly fee will be to high for most that's waiting on her to get xrated.
Pay to Play
08-27-20, 14:23
So this one will meet up for 300 but just to "hang out". 1000 for sex.
https://www.seeking.com/member/b58be986-cd8b-40e6-b24e-01aa69317e58
The worst is when you have been upfront with your expectations agree on price but they have a secret hidden menu they will share with you after you meet and pay.
I know that people want what they want, but please read her ABOUT ME section:
Petite but curvy, whip-smart grad student. Very presentable in public but very adventurous in private. I crave an ongoing escape with an exceptional man.
Looking for an *extremely* successful and generous older man (40+) who is presentable, tall, fit, respectful, confident but not arrogant, emotionally intelligent, well spoken, and sets himself apart. Wow me. You will be quite pleased with the result if you impress me. So impress me.
This average looking woman thinks she deserves all that! What is going on?More like a plain Jane at best. Either guys here in SD won't put up with her gps so now she has moved on to LA. I. e traveling pro masquerading as a wannabe premium sb.
The worst is when you have been upfront with your expectations agree on price but they have a secret hidden menu they will share with you after you meet and pay.Simple solution to that problem. Don't pay until you have fucked them. That's been a firm rule for me. It works. I had one girl that wanted money as soon as we got to hotel room. I told her it didn't work that way on SA. I compromised by putting the money on a nightstand where she could see it, but I made sure to stay between her and the door until she was naked. That is the furthest I will go.
Pay to Play
08-31-20, 11:31
Simple solution to that problem. Don't pay until you have fucked them. That's been a firm rule for me. It works. I had one girl that wanted money as soon as we got to hotel room. I told her it didn't work that way on SA. I compromised by putting the money on a nightstand where she could see it, but I made sure to stay between her and the door until she was naked. That is the furthest I will go.Agreed but admittedly I have compromised on that a few times. Only once has it come back to bite me in the ass. Usually by the time you have them alone in the room they are putting out. I have found that putting money on the table tends to make those legs spread a bit easier. Remember that the women are just as scared at getting scammed as us dudes. I have dated a few from SA who have stories of putting out and then the guy refusing to pay. Bottom line you have to read the room and go with your gut.
OcasianBoy
09-01-20, 01:43
https://www.seeking.com/member/798b866a-cb96-4a38-9707-94f0812e465e
This one says she dtk but you have to cashapp her first. Haha.
JWalker350
09-03-20, 18:59
This girl is a big flake. She showed up for coffee M&G and agreed everything including FC. A day before the FC day, I confirmed with her and she did response within 5 minutes. She told me to text her the hotel address whenever I can.
On the FC day, I texted her the address and did not see any responses. I went back to SA website then saw her already blocked me. Watch her out, fellows. Her SA username is Cassie_SD.
https://www.seeking.com/member/68126b99-bafb-45a1-b5f5-c45a63500ad1
This one quoted me $600 PPM and was you willing to negotiate. She was the one that contacted me first! Sorry girl but chubby Asian chicks are a dime a dozen.
https://www.seeking.com/member/7fafdd65-c598-4dfe-b414-a2869c580c42
FarFarAway
09-10-20, 12:51
This one quoted me $600 PPM and was you willing to negotiate. She was the one that contacted me first! Sorry girl but chubby Asian chicks are a dime a dozen.
https://www.seeking.com/member/7fafdd65-c598-4dfe-b414-a2869c580c42If you are negotiating price w / a POT online rather than in person, you are going to get her escort / you must be a monster rate. I never do that. But then, I am never looking for an escort-type experience, I want at least the GFE. You can only get that by building a modicum of a relationship w / a girl by online messaging, perhaps a phone call or two, and then the classical M&G. There are definitely UTR escorts on the site who figure that they can jack up their rates from the usual b / c it is a sugar baby site. You just have to figure out which one those are as early as possible. Any girl calling me 'hun' or similar is a tip-off.
PussyPumper
09-10-20, 19:04
This one quoted me $600 PPM and was you willing to negotiate. She was the one that contacted me first! Sorry girl but chubby Asian chicks are a dime a dozen.
https://www.seeking.com/member/7fafdd65-c598-4dfe-b414-a2869c580c42Her profile says "slim" - not true?
Did you get meaningful photos?
I think I talked to her a year ago. She is the sort who will happily hookup right away. I can't recall what she was asking for at the time.
Her profile says "slim" - not true?
Did you get meaningful photos?
I think I talked to her a year ago. She is the sort who will happily hookup right away. I can't recall what she was asking for at the time.Her face is chubby in her initial profile pic. I have found that generally speaking every girl on any dating or escort site is usually fatter than their pics. Every now and then you will be surprised but normally this is the case.
Pay to Play
09-11-20, 13:12
Her face is chubby in her initial profile pic. I have found that generally speaking every girl on any dating or escort site is usually fatter than their pics. Every now and then you will be surprised but normally this is the case.That is simply not correct. I have dated many women from websites and have found many to be better then their pics suggest. Now true their are some who will pose in a flattering way to improve their appearance. If you spend enough time looking you will get an eye and learn to identify those that may be hiding something. Usually blurry photos or women who are always pictured on an angle may be hiding their true body. However, remember that the whole point of SA is women who are trying to be a bit more descreate. You have to take some chances to find the real gems.
If you are negotiating price w / a POT online rather than in person, you are going to get her escort / you must be a monster rate. I never do that. But then, I am never looking for an escort-type experience, I want at least the GFE. You can only get that by building a modicum of a relationship w / a girl by online messaging, perhaps a phone call or two, and then the classical M&G. There are definitely UTR escorts on the site who figure that they can jack up their rates from the usual b / c it is a sugar baby site. You just have to figure out which one those are as early as possible. Any girl calling me 'hun' or similar is a tip-off.Never had a chance to ask for a M&G, she straight up told me that's what she was looking for. I don't discuss sugar online, but rather in person, sometimes thru text.
FarFarAway
09-12-20, 13:14
Never had a chance to ask for a M&G, she straight up told me that's what she was looking for. I don't discuss sugar online, but rather in person, sometimes thru text.There are two issues here. If you negotiate PPM rates on seeking, you are vulnerable to getting banned. I'd block her at least, and maybe report her for that. Someone coming at you that way is clearly an escort, if you want that, be my guest, but you have to be careful not to do any further communication through the site. See posts from others, on the LA or Richmond sugar thread, about how painful it is to get banned. They keep track of everything, your credit / debit cards, email, possibly your IP address or MAC address, and if they can tell it's you, they'll ban any new accounts too.
The 2nd point. Even if you are negotiating price via text, you're going to get a $ that assumes the worst case from her perspective. If you have any game at all, and you're talking to a girl who doesn't see herself as an escort (her self-image is the key here), you can get better deals. I am talking (by text) to a cute blond coed from Dana Point, there's no way (based on the whole of my knowledge of her) she thinks she's escorting. Even convincing her to M&G in the coronavirus era is tough. I have only spoken in generalities about $, and she has basically agreed. But if I can't get her to M&G, it won't be consummated.
PussyPumper
09-12-20, 23:27
If you do, then Chloe is a complete natural.
https://www.seeking.com/member/c15d877f-4b6d-4900-b047-96c515ca6b8b
Been years since I last saw her, so no idea of SA rates. I am not VIP at present, so can't contact her. Am interested to learn what rate she will go for these days.
Negatives.
- Meaty lips (the other ones). Some folks like that, I don't.
- Was a bit of a druggie back when I saw her.
JWalker350
09-13-20, 00:19
If you do, then Chloe is a complete natural.
https://www.seeking.com/member/c15d877f-4b6d-4900-b047-96c515ca6b8b
Been years since I last saw her, so no idea of SA rates. I am not VIP at present, so can't contact her. Am interested to learn what rate she will go for these days.
Negatives.
- Meaty lips (the other ones). Some folks like that, I don't.
- Was a bit of a druggie back when I saw her.Looks like she is still on drugs by looking from her pictures. I would pass.
If you do, then Chloe is a complete natural.
https://www.seeking.com/member/c15d877f-4b6d-4900-b047-96c515ca6b8b
Been years since I last saw her, so no idea of SA rates. I am not VIP at present, so can't contact her. Am interested to learn what rate she will go for these days.
Negatives.
- Meaty lips (the other ones). Some folks like that, I don't.
- Was a bit of a druggie back when I saw her.She's definitely been escorting. Seen those same pics / profile on PD and P411, I believe. As I recall, the "investment" requested was in the 4-6 bills range.
PussyPumper
09-14-20, 03:03
Her photos are old, how is she looking?
Current vibe?
https://www.seeking.com/member/9e83f71d-8bcf-4928-972d-0259b8089536
Pay to Play
09-17-20, 11:07
https://www.seeking.com/member/6026e094-5808-4f68-91f5-532162723881
This one is promising an invite to some local gang bang sex party. Wants to communicate via email and starts asking questions likely trying to phish for personal information. Then will send you a registration email to pay $60 via PayPal. These are the most dangerous types of scams because they don't go over board asking for too much information. But pay attention to the details. Spelling of email addresses, Grammer and overall word choices. After a bit you can figure out this is someone with limited English experience using some white blond girls pictures who is way too hot. Scams come in many shapes and sizes. Also if after the sales pitch they keep sending emails with increasing pressure always a good indication of a scam.
https://www.seeking.com/member/c72a3d86-3030-4578-a057-33aa6c0d36bd
Asking for 4 K-5 K per month. Told me she has 3-4 friends have allowances in that range.
https://www.seeking.com/member/468956ee-672f-477b-b7fb-08ea010c1e48
This girl is cheaper, just ask for $4 K per month.This first one seems to be in DC now, or she's a scam. I let you boys know.
JWalker350
09-19-20, 02:08
This first one seems to be in DC now, or she's a scam. I let you boys know.She changed her Username twice, moved from SD to LA to Santa Barbara and now to DC. Must be scam.
JWalker350
09-19-20, 02:26
Wanted 500 per week. Told me had an SD in the past and her former SD just took her to shoppings, dinners, drinks.
https://www.seeking.com/member/37a3d9dd-f605-42ee-b717-df5f8d471e30
This one wanted ppm without intimacy. Paid dinners, drinks, watching her eat and give her allowance.
https://www.seeking.com/messages/inbox/414bc10a-44b8-4e89-9586-509d2bb15da5
This one wanted 1,000 per meet.
https://www.seeking.com/messages/inbox/9652e35d-b429-4094-82a2-88372d8ccfd8
Wanted 500 per week. Told me had an SD in the past and her former SD just took her to shoppings, dinners, drinks.
https://www.seeking.com/member/37a3d9dd-f605-42ee-b717-df5f8d471e30
This one wanted ppm without intimacy. Paid dinners, drinks, watching her eat and give her allowance.
https://www.seeking.com/messages/inbox/414bc10a-44b8-4e89-9586-509d2bb15da5
This one wanted 1,000 per meet.
https://www.seeking.com/messages/inbox/9652e35d-b429-4094-82a2-88372d8ccfd8The last two links are to your messages, not their profiles.
JWalker350
09-20-20, 00:06
The last two links are to your messages, not their profiles.Sorry. Here are the correct links.
This one wanted ppm without intimacy. Paid dinners, drinks, watching her eat and give her allowance.
https://www.seeking.com/member/6ba28587-3259-4db9-a51a-0dd6666bf418
This one wanted 1,000 per meet.
https://www.seeking.com/member/1a9ee0de-5cc8-471a-965e-86c4dcd3eed7
JWalker350
09-20-20, 00:17
Sorry. Here are the correct links.
This one wanted ppm without intimacy. Paid dinners, drinks, watching her eat and give her allowance.
https://www.seeking.com/member/6ba28587-3259-4db9-a51a-0dd6666bf418
This one wanted 1,000 per meet.
https://www.seeking.com/member/1a9ee0de-5cc8-471a-965e-86c4dcd3eed7Another $1,000 per meet.
https://www.seeking.com/member/c8459a7c-af99-4712-acde-b06503bba4eb
JWalker350
09-20-20, 00:22
Another $1,000 per meet.
https://www.seeking.com/member/c8459a7c-af99-4712-acde-b06503bba4ebEscort. Asked me if I am available tonight and have fun together.
https://www.seeking.com/member/79c156ad-7ed0-4a8b-82a8-710b0c80a21a
JWalker350
09-20-20, 00:47
Escort. Asked me if I am available tonight and have fun together.
https://www.seeking.com/member/79c156ad-7ed0-4a8b-82a8-710b0c80a21aThis girl is crazy. Blocked me while in the middle of the conversation, not even into any discussion for an arrangement yet.
https://www.seeking.com/member/a42d7185-9ad2-41e6-9a35-a6abdfa1a2b0
JWalker350
09-20-20, 01:24
Looks like pictures of 2 different women. The last picture is another girl.
https://www.seeking.com/member/9504938d-f148-40d3-98c9-6f98df5d5e41
Looks like pictures of 2 different women. The last picture is another girl.
https://www.seeking.com/member/9504938d-f148-40d3-98c9-6f98df5d5e41They all look like the same fat chick to me. <shrugs .
Pay to Play
09-21-20, 11:11
Wanted 500 per week. Told me had an SD in the past and her former SD just took her to shoppings, dinners, drinks.
https://www.seeking.com/member/37a3d9dd-f605-42ee-b717-df5f8d471e30
This one wanted ppm without intimacy. Paid dinners, drinks, watching her eat and give her allowance.
https://www.seeking.com/messages/inbox/414bc10a-44b8-4e89-9586-509d2bb15da5
This one wanted 1,000 per meet.
https://www.seeking.com/messages/inbox/9652e35d-b429-4094-82a2-88372d8ccfd8Its like a treasure hunt. Keep searching, you will find one that's a keeper. These types are common place, just ignore them and keep searching.
JWalker350
09-21-20, 18:45
Its like a treasure hunt. Keep searching, you will find one that's a keeper. These types are common place, just ignore them and keep searching.Thanks for your advice. I posted the information so other fellows can be aware of them and do not waste their time.
FarFarAway
09-22-20, 16:52
Thanks for your advice. I posted the information so other fellows can be aware of them and do not waste their time.If you only ever message electronically w / a POT, you're never going to get anything but her sky-high price. No one can show their game w / texts. You need to talk w / a girl, ideally face to face, before you have this discussion. If you don't want to go to all that trouble, SA isn't a good place for you anyway. You'd be better off on a site (IDK what they are, not my jam) where escorts advertise, w / menus, etc. The whole game of the sugar bowl for me is what sort of a girl I can get at what bargain price by figuring out her proclivities. If you just want to cut to the chase, again, it's not much of a place for that. It's true that since back page shut down, there are a few straight UTR escorts who have come on over, sometimes just doubling their prices from what they used to expect. Watch out for those, but they should be pretty apparent. Photos inside cheap motels, lots 'hun' and 'sweetie' in your initial messages.
JWalker350
09-22-20, 21:42
If you only ever message electronically w / a POT, you're never going to get anything but her sky-high price. No one can show their game w / texts. You need to talk w / a girl, ideally face to face, before you have this discussion. If you don't want to go to all that trouble, SA isn't a good place for you anyway. You'd be better off on a site (IDK what they are, not my jam) where escorts advertise, w / menus, etc. The whole game of the sugar bowl for me is what sort of a girl I can get at what bargain price by figuring out her proclivities. If you just want to cut to the chase, again, it's not much of a place for that. It's true that since back page shut down, there are a few straight UTR escorts who have come on over, sometimes just doubling their prices from what they used to expect. Watch out for those, but they should be pretty apparent. Photos inside cheap motels, lots 'hun' and 'sweetie' in your initial messages.What do you think if a girl does not want to meet for coffee or lunch as M&G but ask to go straight to the hotel? Pros / Escorts.
FarFarAway
09-23-20, 00:46
What do you think if a girl does not want to meet for coffee or lunch as M&G but ask to go straight to the hotel? Pros / Escorts.Well, she's certainly no one I'd see. You can get into debates about the spectrum from real GF to full hooker w / people on here, but I won't do that. Define your own semantics. In this pandemic, I expect a SB to be ongoing and exclusive to me, otherwise I'd never justify the risk. These are available, I've had a few. My current POT is a 24 YO law clerk, very pretty Hispanic, a bit innocent, but up for the adventure after so much deprivation. FC on Friday.
JWalker350
09-23-20, 15:18
Well, she's certainly no one I'd see. You can get into debates about the spectrum from real GF to full hooker w / people on here, but I won't do that. Define your own semantics. In this pandemic, I expect a SB to be ongoing and exclusive to me, otherwise I'd never justify the risk. These are available, I've had a few. My current POT is a 24 YO law clerk, very pretty Hispanic, a bit innocent, but up for the adventure after so much deprivation. FC on Friday.Thanks for your advice. You are absolutely right. I did not plan to meet her either.
JWalker350
09-24-20, 01:16
Today I just detect BOT (robot) on SA. I believe SA created fake profiles and let the software reads the messages automatically. I got constant responses after I sent out the messages. Within a few second after my messages sent out, they were read by pot. I tested it about 10 messages, all got read after 2 seconds. Only software can do it consistently.
JWalker350
09-24-20, 01:17
Today I just detect BOT (robot) on SA. I believe SA created fake profiles and let the software reads the messages automatically. I got constant responses after I sent out the messages. Within a few second after my messages sent out, they were read by pot. I tested it about 10 messages, all got read after 2 seconds. Only software can do it consistently.https://www.seeking.com/member/0561a40a-9d9e-417a-8676-19f5daa71c25
https://www.seeking.com/member/0561a40a-9d9e-417a-8676-19f5daa71c25If someone leaves their message box opened on your conversation, messages will automatically show as read right after they are received. Not saying that girl is real or not, just that the instant read just means she has the conversation opened. I actually messaged that girl a few days ago never got an answer, a bot would reply to everybody.
JWalker350
09-24-20, 11:45
If someone leaves their message box opened on your conversation, messages will automatically show as read right after they are received. Not saying that girl is real or not, just that the instant read just means she has the conversation opened. I actually messaged that girl a few days ago never got an answer, a bot would reply to everybody.Got it now. I have never seen anything like it.
Pay to Play
10-01-20, 17:11
So here is one I will share. Meet her and had a good time with everything you would expect from a SB. She looks better then her pictures. 300 all in.
This should be a good one for you SugarDaddy virgins. If you can't seal the deal her you might want to try a different hobby.
https://www.seeking.com/member/83169cc3-07c6-465e-bff8-861648ea2875
This girl right here goes around with her "manager" robbing people at knife point https://www.seeking.com/member/6097c0a7-8256-4c81-9596-2137025fdb27 be careful guys. She kept mentioning PB area a lot so I'm assuming she's from there.
https://www.seeking.com/member/6097c0a7-8256-4c81-9596-2137025fdb27
JWalker350
10-05-20, 01:48
This girl right here goes around with her "manager" robbing people at knife point https://www.seeking.com/member/6097c0a7-8256-4c81-9596-2137025fdb27 be careful guys. She kept mentioning PB area a lot so I'm assuming she's from there.Just curious what did she tell you. She didn't even return my message.
Maybe this is just coincidence, but lately on SA I have noticed a higher rate of girls not demanding $600 ppm in the first message. Now they want to meet, setting dates and times and not discussing dollar figures. Just "please feed me" and "need help with traffic tickets" kinds of things. One would expect that the expired enhanced unemployment plus no stimulus plus this prolonged period of shutdowns and slowdowns for most jobs an SB would have to make them hungrier. And lower prices.
It seems that way. Hard to tell, I also took better profile photos which seems to have made a huge difference in my response rate.
Maybe this is just coincidence, but lately on SA I have noticed a higher rate of girls not demanding $600 ppm in the first message. Now they want to meet, setting dates and times and not discussing dollar figures. Just "please feed me" and "need help with traffic tickets" kinds of things. One would expect that the expired enhanced unemployment plus no stimulus plus this prolonged period of shutdowns and slowdowns for most jobs an SB would have to make them hungrier. And lower prices.
It seems that way. Hard to tell, I also took better profile photos which seems to have made a huge difference in my response rate.Its actually very annoying, I don't know what's happening in the market but I'm getting a lot of girls who think this is a courtship multiple dates to "hang out" lunches, dinners and no action. Of course I am not giving an allowance for these hang out sessions I'm just out the cost of a meal. But its very annoying. If I wanted to date someone traditionally I would be on Match or one of the other regular dating apps, really wasting my time with these hang outs!
JWalker350
10-10-20, 04:33
Its actually very annoying, I don't know what's happening in the market but I'm getting a lot of girls who think this is a courtship multiple dates to "hang out" lunches, dinners and no action. Of course I am not giving an allowance for these hang out sessions I'm just out the cost of a meal. But its very annoying. If I wanted to date someone traditionally I would be on Match or one of the other regular dating apps, really wasting my time with these hang outs!Exactly. I got the same requests like you. Looks like they are trying to get free lunches or dinners. One girl from SDSU even asked me to compensate her 250 for each lunch / dinner time. I told her I will do if she is naked and have dinners with me.
Exactly. I got the same requests like you. Looks like they are trying to get free lunches or dinners. One girl from SDSU even asked me to compensate her 250 for each lunch / dinner time. I told her I will do if she is naked and have dinners with me.I am seeing similar. As well as the usual scams of "oh I need $100 by venmo to get ready for our date" and "I have no monies for gas send even though we've never met". Another major one I notice is just "I am too busy to meet right now. ". Like, really? On a weekend? During a pandemic where you wouldn't be on this site if you had a job?
That seems to happen a lot, I have like a dozen girls who are going to meet "after Sunday" or "next weekend" until I get bored of texting them. I mean I offer them some money to meet, etc. I don't know exactly the reason for these. My guess is they are getting messaged by 'whales' : people who claim millions in assets, tease them with way above market perks and gifts. (be my mistress and you get a BMW! But they almost never actually manage to "close the deal" and GET these offered things. Because most of the men at that wealth level don't use SA and have other ways to get fresh mistresses, and most of the ones on SA are probably fakes.
JWalker350
10-11-20, 00:14
I am seeing similar. As well as the usual scams of "oh I need $100 by venmo to get ready for our date" and "I have no monies for gas send even though we've never met". Another major one I notice is just "I am too busy to meet right now. ". Like, really? On a weekend? During a pandemic where you wouldn't be on this site if you had a job?
That seems to happen a lot, I have like a dozen girls who are going to meet "after Sunday" or "next weekend" until I get bored of texting them. I mean I offer them some money to meet, etc. I don't know exactly the reason for these. My guess is they are getting messaged by 'whales' : people who claim millions in assets, tease them with way above market perks and gifts. (be my mistress and you get a BMW! But they almost never actually manage to "close the deal" and GET these offered things. Because most of the men at that wealth level don't use SA and have other ways to get fresh mistresses, and most of the ones on SA are probably fakes.I think the girls have some scripts or notes and all are sending the same message: busy or let meet next week.
Agree, have been getting much of the same. "Platonic. I'm a good listener. Virtual only due to pandemic. Like we can have dinners and talk. Compensate me for my time. Gas money. Buy me something off my wishlist to show me you are serious. Cashapp me first. " When I get these types of responses, I remind them it "this is for mutually beneficial relationships" and they can figure out what I imply. On the SA DM system do not say sex=$ . On my profile I make the comment that I don't know any daddies that give sugar to watch someone stuff their pie hole, sit there and listen, or grace us with their presence. Otherwise, get in line, there's a waiting list 3 years long.
Has been like this for a while but is getting worse and worse. That's why I am done with SA last year. Just too much time and not going anywhere.
Its actually very annoying, I don't know what's happening in the market but I'm getting a lot of girls who think this is a courtship multiple dates to "hang out" lunches, dinners and no action. Of course I am not giving an allowance for these hang out sessions I'm just out the cost of a meal. But its very annoying. If I wanted to date someone traditionally I would be on Match or one of the other regular dating apps, really wasting my time with these hang outs!
Pay to Play
10-12-20, 10:59
Its actually very annoying, I don't know what's happening in the market but I'm getting a lot of girls who think this is a courtship multiple dates to "hang out" lunches, dinners and no action. Of course I am not giving an allowance for these hang out sessions I'm just out the cost of a meal. But its very annoying. If I wanted to date someone traditionally I would be on Match or one of the other regular dating apps, really wasting my time with these hang outs!All agreed, I never pay for meet and greets. I will meet a gal for lunch or coffee just to ease their concerns. But I also tell them before hand that if things go well during the meet and great I expect that we will go find a room afterwards. I find it laughable when they try to claim for their safety they won't accept cash. Always a sign of a scam. Yes SA is a rough place filled with scams but the best BBFS is found there as well.
JWalker350
10-12-20, 23:28
All agreed, I never pay for meet and greets. I will meet a gal for lunch or coffee just to ease their concerns. But I also tell them before hand that if things go well during the meet and great I expect that we will go find a room afterwards. I find it laughable when they try to claim for their safety they won't accept cash. Always a sign of a scam. Yes SA is a rough place filled with scams but the best BBFS is found there as well.This girl blocked me after I asked her to have any experience with SA arrangements.
https://www.seeking.com/member/8451b588-9352-4ca4-9ce4-11e2e90224bf
This girl blocked me after I asked her to have any experience with SA arrangements.
https://www.seeking.com/member/8451b588-9352-4ca4-9ce4-11e2e90224bfYour profile has been either deleted or deactivated. I don't think you are blocked.
Pay to Play
10-14-20, 15:42
This one says she will host for a 1 k ppm allowance. Good luck with that.
https://www.seeking.com/member/50655140-a6a4-4563-b342-8944da50930f
PussyPumper
10-15-20, 01:16
And then saw her tonight on SA!
Very petite, slim. Has done porn, so should be an easy mark for some of you studs. Anyone indulged? Would love to know her "rate" ha ha
https://www.seeking.com/member/7f46a01a-209a-419a-8721-4c2276260841
Pay to Play
10-15-20, 12:13
And then saw her tonight on SA!
Very petite, slim. Has done porn, so should be an easy mark for some of you studs. Anyone indulged? Would love to know her "rate" ha ha
https://www.seeking.com/member/7f46a01a-209a-419a-8721-4c2276260841Too bad her profile is gone. Likely she was looking for big $.
PussyPumper
10-15-20, 14:04
Too bad her profile is gone. Likely she was looking for big $.Looks like she may not like you! .
JWalker350
10-15-20, 14:53
Your profile has been either deleted or deactivated. I don't think you are blocked.She blocked me first but she deactivated her profile about 4 hours after that. Possible she thought SD is an ATM but found none then deactivated.
And then saw her tonight on SA!
Very petite, slim. Has done porn, so should be an easy mark for some of you studs. Anyone indulged? Would love to know her "rate" ha ha
https://www.seeking.com/member/7f46a01a-209a-419a-8721-4c2276260841She's on listcrawler, reviews too. Looks like you can bang her for $140-200:
https://aypapi.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/california/sandiego/55090825/
Pay to Play
10-15-20, 17:10
Looks like she may not like you! .LOL. I likely talked with her before and either thought she was a scammer, waste of time or just ridiculous. If I declare them a no go I will block them so I don't make the mistake trying later after my messages have disappeared. Either way. She's on the no list.
And then saw her tonight on SA!
Very petite, slim. Has done porn, so should be an easy mark for some of you studs. Anyone indulged? Would love to know her "rate" ha ha
https://www.seeking.com/member/7f46a01a-209a-419a-8721-4c2276260841I see her posts on listcrawler all the time. Outs only.
PussyPumper
10-15-20, 18:24
I see her posts on listcrawler all the time. Outs only.But her SA rates / menu may be very different.
PussyPumper
10-15-20, 18:25
LOL. I likely talked with her before and either thought she was a scammer, waste of time or just ridiculous. If I declare them a no go I will block them so I don't make the mistake trying later after my messages have disappeared. Either way. She's on the no list.
Not a scammer as far as I know. Very real, I see her often enough IRL - why I can't touch. For a really tiny girl, she does anal like a champ.
PussyPumper
10-16-20, 02:53
I see her posts on listcrawler all the time. Outs only.This is her post from today.
https://escortbabylon.net/image_list/6198285867?gid=4ae01a43b63cf319b13b48592c5a8be8
Would not have expected that. Astonishingly, all her photos are accurate. Did not think that was ever true on sites like that! The photo third down on the left is how she looks at present.
OcasianBoy
10-17-20, 11:09
https://www.seeking.com/member/2d3f2d45-7490-4153-af5f-e385284311a9
This gal looks good and is willing to go to the fc but has gps. She wants 5 benz. Maybe you guys could give it a try and bring her down even more.
PussyPumper
10-18-20, 01:32
This question has come up multiple times over the years.
The answer is almost certainly fingerprinting.
That is, even if you change your IP address, delete cookies etc. a website, in this case SA, can still identify you!
How? Via "fingerprinting".
That is, your operating system version, plus screen size, plus browser type, and various other settings are all discoverable by every website you visit. Taken together, they identify you. Maybe not uniquely, but good enough that it can be, snd is, routinely used to identify website visitors.
Test it yourself at
https://privacy.net/analyzer/
So, to avoid this, SA users who have been banned need to not only change IP address, delete all cookies, not use same photos, etc, but also:
- Change browser.
- Change browser window size and / or screen resolution.
- Other changes to settings.
Good luck out there!
FarFarAway
10-18-20, 12:06
Could you post this in the de facto national thread for sugaring, Richmond VA? This is useful info I have never seen on here before, it likely ought to go into the archive that they keep of all the useful posts of that thread.
This question has come up multiple times over the years.
The answer is almost certainly fingerprinting.
That is, even if you change your IP address, delete cookies etc. a website, in this case SA, can still identify you!
How? Via "fingerprinting".
That is, your operating system version, plus screen size, plus browser type, and various other settings are all discoverable by every website you visit. Taken together, they identify you. Maybe not uniquely, but good enough that it can be, snd is, routinely used to identify website visitors.
Test it yourself at
https://privacy.net/analyzer/
So, to avoid this, SA users who have been banned need to not only change IP address, delete all cookies, not use same photos, etc, but also:
PussyPumper
10-18-20, 23:18
Could you post this in the de facto national thread for sugaring, Richmond VA? This is useful info I have never seen on here before, it likely ought to go into the archive that they keep of all the useful posts of that thread.Posted in Richmond forum.
* I use a pre paid credit card (because they store it).
* I don't have any full face pictures (because they keep all).
* I have more than 3 numbers that I maintain and I closed that thing called "Facebook" ages ago. (LOL, what is this? 2006?
If you just be careful, I would argue SA has far less information on me than, say, Tinder & Bumble.
I am no expert, but if NSA wants to track you, they can and it's only going to take a few minutes. In fact, just your local private investigators can run plates, track numbers and pull information via LE database.
PussyPumper
10-23-20, 18:52
When you load seeking.com, they are passing / sharing / using info with:
bing.com
cloudflare.com
doubleclick.net
fullstory.com
Go2 app. Org.
Google-analytics.com.
google.com
googlesyndication.com
googletagmanager.com
googletagservices.com
heapanalytics.com
hotjar.com
pages02.net
pushcrew.com
pusher.com
Real-gifts.com.
Rflxm. Io.
Sentry-cdn.com.
visualwebsiteoptimizer.com
Several of these are dedicated to storing and tracking web interactions.
This question has come up multiple times over the years.
The answer is almost certainly fingerprinting.
That is, even if you change your IP address, delete cookies etc. a website, in this case SA, can still identify you!
How? Via "fingerprinting".
That is, your operating system version, plus screen size, plus browser type, and various other settings are all discoverable by every website you visit. Taken together, they identify you. Maybe not uniquely, but good enough that it can be, snd is, routinely used to identify website visitors.
Test it yourself at
https://privacy.net/analyzer/
So, to avoid this, SA users who have been banned need to not only change IP address, delete all cookies, not use same photos, etc, but also:
- Change browser.
- Change browser window size and / or screen resolution.
- Other changes to settings.
Good luck out there!There are 2 things to add to this.
One:
If you are using an windows base Operating system. Every time you access a website that is using the right type of tracking set up it records you SID for your file system that is individualized per system.
Two:
?Website tacki8 ng soft ware can also save your MAC address which is embedded in all internet traffic per the TCP / IP suite standard. You can spoof you MAC address but it can get a bit tricky, and if you delve into the intricacies of TCP / IP it can be a rabbit hole.
Needless to say there are multiple bits of information that can be save about the system you are using to track a person.
I have not been able to log onto SA for a few months. Not an urgent problem because I am waiting for the Covid situation to improve before I resume play. But I would still like to browse the menu.
When I try to log on, I get multiple Captcha screens. After answering them correctly, I get the usual spinning wheel icon. But it lasts forever and I never get logged in.
I don't think SA has banned me. I still get promotions from them at my sugar email address, and I regularly get emails saying someone has favorited me or messaged me. But I can't get into the site.
Anyone else ever had this issue? How did you resolve it?
Geneva Guy
10-30-20, 19:24
I have not been able to log onto SA for a few months. Not an urgent problem because I am waiting for the Covid situation to improve before I resume play. But I would still like to browse the menu.
When I try to log on, I get multiple Captcha screens. After answering them correctly, I get the usual spinning wheel icon. But it lasts forever and I never get logged in.
I don't think SA has banned me. I still get promotions from them at my sugar email address, and I regularly get emails saying someone has favorited me or messaged me. But I can't get into the site.
Anyone else ever had this issue? How did you resolve it?Same thing. Try using different browser, Opera and Edge work for me. I emailed SA they did nothing.
GG.
PussyPumper
11-02-20, 03:04
After the pandemic started I cut back to one regular, and after she disappeared in May I did not renew my premium membership, or contact anyone. I just lurk from time to time. I wonder if others are doing the same, or if it is "business as usual"? I notice SA is offering 33% a discount, so I have the feeling they are hurting. But the way the pandemic is going, I won't be back until (if) there is a vaccine. I don't want to become a statistic.
PussyPumper
11-02-20, 04:28
I don't want to become a statistic.And if anyone does, there is an SB for you!
https://www.seeking.com/member/70776799-87df-41e7-a61a-104a2eaefe4d
After the pandemic started I cut back to one regular, and after she disappeared in May I did not renew my premium membership, or contact anyone. I just lurk from time to time. I wonder if others are doing the same, or if it is "business as usual"? I notice SA is offering 33% a discount, so I have the feeling they are hurting. But the way the pandemic is going, I won't be back until (if) there is a vaccine. I don't want to become a statistic.I'm in the same boat. Where did you see the 33% off?
https://www.seeking.com/member/b3255ce3-7224-4233-9505-442e0cf309dd
Nerdyguy12 from the SD Bare section has reported that this 1 offers BBFS.
Pay to Play
11-02-20, 16:37
After the pandemic started I cut back to one regular, and after she disappeared in May I did not renew my premium membership, or contact anyone. I just lurk from time to time. I wonder if others are doing the same, or if it is "business as usual"? I notice SA is offering 33% a discount, so I have the feeling they are hurting. But the way the pandemic is going, I won't be back until (if) there is a vaccine. I don't want to become a statistic.I regularly see new girls. If anything, COVID has made some a bit more competitive in cost. Yes there are risks but honestly that comes with the hobby and not going to wait for another year to see new girls. I usually try to date a new girl about every other week.
PussyPumper
11-02-20, 17:24
I'm in the same boat. Where did you see the 33% off?I got an email, and there are pop-up screens when I login, and at intervals while logged in. Previousy, 2-3 weeks ago, the offer was lower, 20% (also email, and pop-ups.).
PussyPumper
11-02-20, 17:25
I regularly see new girls. If anything, COVID has made some a bit more competitive in cost. Yes there are risks but honestly that comes with the hobby and not going to wait for another year to see new girls. I usually try to date a new girl about every other week.I am not as young as I once was.
Pay to Play
11-02-20, 17:52
I am not as young as I once was.I get that.
I would see more girls and more frequently if I didn't have to get a room. Just the cost and hassle involved is a deterrent. However I have got a few to do car dates. It amazes me when a woman you have never met is willing meet you in the mall parking lot in the middle of the day and raw dog.
Looking for some help. What type of ccard works on this site? I am only willing to use a burner card (one time) and they didn't accept the AMEX I entered. If you have experience, let me know where you get the card, how you use it, the name, etc. I'm not sure why it's so hard to do this and fly utr. Feel free to PM me if you want. Thanks!
PussyPumper
11-03-20, 03:18
I get that.
I would see more girls and more frequently if I didn't have to get a room. Just the cost and hassle involved is a deterrent. However I have got a few to do car dates. It amazes me when a woman you have never met is willing meet you in the mall parking lot in the middle of the day and raw dog.I always found the need for a hotel room to be my limiting factor. I play a decent game, and could have gone to town with all the co-ed talent if not for the need to get a hotel room. Not that many decent places (not seedy motels) offer day rooms, it adds substantial costs, plus security risk, hassle and time. And to cap it all, there there is now the added health risk, over and above the risks with a new (or not so new) SB.
FarFarAway
11-03-20, 10:45
Looking for some help. What type of ccard works on this site? I am only willing to use a burner card (one time) and they didn't accept the AMEX I entered. If you have experience, let me know where you get the card, how you use it, the name, etc. I'm not sure why it's so hard to do this and fly utr. Feel free to PM me if you want. Thanks!Just read back through the posts here or the Richmond VA sugar thread.
John HandCock
11-03-20, 11:28
Looking for some help. What type of ccard works on this site? I am only willing to use a burner card (one time) and they didn't accept the AMEX I entered. If you have experience, let me know where you get the card, how you use it, the name, etc. I'm not sure why it's so hard to do this and fly utr. Feel free to PM me if you want. Thanks!Any prepaid accepted internationally.
FilmMakr97
11-03-20, 12:42
I always found the need for a hotel room to be my limiting factor. I play a decent game, and could have gone to town with all the co-ed talent if not for the need to get a hotel room. Not that many decent places (not seedy motels) offer day rooms, it adds substantial costs, plus security risk, hassle and time. And to cap it all, there there is now the added health risk, over and above the risks with a new (or not so new) SB.If ever you need a nice room for a day, check out dayuse.com. There are more around town than you imagine.
PussyPumper
11-03-20, 17:21
If ever you need a nice room for a day, check out dayuse.com. There are more around town than you imagine.Between some having higher prices, locations, parking, etc, I found there were only about 5 places I could actually use, and I became uncomfortably familiar at those places. I sort of dreaded the 'Oh, back again" comments at checkin.
FilmMakr97
11-03-20, 18:26
Between some having higher prices, locations, parking, etc, I found there were only about 5 places I could actually use, and I became uncomfortably familiar at those places. I sort of dreaded the 'Oh, back again" comments at checkin.LOL! That's too funny. I found most were less than 100. LaJolla hotel was 89. Downtown SD was less than that.
FarFarAway
11-04-20, 00:29
Between some having higher prices, locations, parking, etc, I found there were only about 5 places I could actually use, and I became uncomfortably familiar at those places. I sort of dreaded the 'Oh, back again" comments at checkin.Two thoughts. There's another vendor, hoteslbyday, and then you can also book some Hiltons for day use. Just put the same day as check-in and check-out.
Also, I mostly have my SB get the room. Of course you need to establish trust w / her, and she needs to agree. This is the only way I rolll, as I have a SO, and I don't want any breadcrumbs.
PussyPumper
11-04-20, 02:07
LOL! That's too funny. I found most were less than 100. LaJolla hotel was 89. Downtown SD was less than that.What is not funny is that the hotels do keep a close watch on things. At checkin at one of the Hiltons I used regularly, there were signs reminding the staff to be on the lookout for sex trafficking. I like to keep a low profile, and not attract attention.
Same thing. Try using different browser, Opera and Edge work for me. I emailed SA they did nothing.
GG.Thanks, Geneva Guy. Opera is working great for me for the moment. I guess I will save Edge for the next time this happens. It's nice to browse the menu even if I don't intend to order a meal until Covid gets better!
What is not funny is that the hotels do keep a close watch on things. At checkin at one of the Hiltons I used regularly, there were signs reminding the staff to be on the lookout for sex trafficking. I like to keep a low profile, and not attract attention.Yes, but I doubt they care about one guy who comes even 2-3 times and book a room for a few hours every time, they probably suspect he is having an affair or something, so they won't care. However a girl who books a room for days at a time and having a different guy coming towards her room every hour will be much more suspect.
Signed up last week for SA and have met 2 women (19 and 21) for lunch and dinner. 1 was attending UCSD, but said she hated the military and I'm a vet so knew it wouldn't work out. She was very liberal and conversation started going south when she brought up Harris. I blurted out that it is surprising people voted for her and things got quiet. I think I prefer the pro route, but the 21 year old came over to the house after dinner. We drank some beer and then watched some Netflix, but then she said she had to go home after a couple hours. I didn't get any sign much else was going down, so we just parted ways. I am trying to setup some more M&G, but it is odd when the women don't give you any sign that additional things are on the menu. I guess I'm just too much of a monger that wants to bang in the first 5 minutes of meeting.
I did visit an AMP and had a mind blowing session. First time I ever got my butt licked and she had me on my knees giving me a BBBJ from underneath. It is a unique position as I was looking down at her giving little man some love. She had me flip and gave me some wet camel slides and DFK. I forgot all about her licking my ass, but got caught up in the moment. I'm glad I took a shower before visiting.
SA seems to be giving me blue balls, but I do enjoy meeting young women, but not the educated brain washed liberal ones. I do have to give props to the Asian 19 year old UCSD student as she said it was the first time she went out to eat since COVID. I'm not afraid of COVID and knew it wouldn't work out if this was the first time she left the campus since COVID. She was wearing a nice black top that accentuated her B's, but it seems like she hates conservative views, the military, and I drive a big truck. I wouldn't mind having her over, but she seems to be one of the SB that just want experiences and not the romantic kind. I'll try to get the 21 year old Latina back to the house for some more alcohol as she mentioned tequila and some bud. She kept playing with her hair and I asked if she is comfortable with doing anything else and she said not that night. I guess the first meeting is a success if she came over to the house, but just got to close the deal next time. No extra money out of my pocket other than their meals.
Signed up last week for SA and have met 2 women (19 and 21) for lunch and dinner. 1 was attending UCSD, but said she hated the military and I'm a vet so knew it wouldn't work out. She was very liberal and conversation started going south when she brought up Harris. I blurted out that it is surprising people voted for her and things got quiet. I think I prefer the pro route, but the 21 year old came over to the house after dinner. We drank some beer and then watched some Netflix, but then she said she had to go home after a couple hours. I didn't get any sign much else was going down, so we just parted ways. I am trying to setup some more M&G, but it is odd when the women don't give you any sign that additional things are on the menu. I guess I'm just too much of a monger that wants to bang in the first 5 minutes of meeting.
I did visit an AMP and had a mind blowing session. First time I ever got my butt licked and she had me on my knees giving me a BBBJ from underneath. It is a unique position as I was looking down at her giving little man some love. She had me flip and gave me some wet camel slides and DFK. I forgot all about her licking my ass, but got caught up in the moment. I'm glad I took a shower before visiting.
SA seems to be giving me blue balls, but I do enjoy meeting young women, but not the educated brain washed liberal ones. I do have to give props to the Asian 19 year old UCSD student as she said it was the first time she went out to eat since COVID. I'm not afraid of COVID and knew it wouldn't work out if this was the first time she left the campus since COVID. She was wearing a nice black top that accentuated her B's, but it seems like she hates conservative views, the military, and I drive a big truck. I wouldn't mind having her over, but she seems to be one of the SB that just want experiences and not the romantic kind. I'll try to get the 21 year old Latina back to the house for some more alcohol as she mentioned tequila and some bud. She kept playing with her hair and I asked if she is comfortable with doing anything else and she said not that night. I guess the first meeting is a success if she came over to the house, but just got to close the deal next time. No extra money out of my pocket other than their meals.Would like to know if you can insert the link to the asian chick in UCSD? Thanks.
How you know the political drama in the US has gone too far. When dudes are passing on banging hot young chicks because they hate their views. LOL / jk (kinda).
Signed up last week for SA and have met 2 women (19 and 21) for lunch and dinner. 1 was attending UCSD, but said she hated the military and I'm a vet so knew it wouldn't work out. She was very liberal and conversation started going south when she brought up Harris. I blurted out that it is surprising people voted for her and things got quiet. I think I prefer the pro route, but the 21 year old came over to the house after dinner. We drank some beer and then watched some Netflix, but then she said she had to go home after a couple hours. I didn't get any sign much else was going down, so we just parted ways. I am trying to setup some more M&G, but it is odd when the women don't give you any sign that additional things are on the menu. I guess I'm just too much of a monger that wants to bang in the first 5 minutes of meeting.
I did visit an AMP and had a mind blowing session. First time I ever got my butt licked and she had me on my knees giving me a BBBJ from underneath. It is a unique position as I was looking down at her giving little man some love. She had me flip and gave me some wet camel slides and DFK. I forgot all about her licking my ass, but got caught up in the moment. I'm glad I took a shower before visiting.
SA seems to be giving me blue balls, but I do enjoy meeting young women, but not the educated brain washed liberal ones. I do have to give props to the Asian 19 year old UCSD student as she said it was the first time she went out to eat since COVID. I'm not afraid of COVID and knew it wouldn't work out if this was the first time she left the campus since COVID. She was wearing a nice black top that accentuated her B's, but it seems like she hates conservative views, the military, and I drive a big truck. I wouldn't mind having her over, but she seems to be one of the SB that just want experiences and not the romantic kind. I'll try to get the 21 year old Latina back to the house for some more alcohol as she mentioned tequila and some bud. She kept playing with her hair and I asked if she is comfortable with doing anything else and she said not that night. I guess the first meeting is a success if she came over to the house, but just got to close the deal next time. No extra money out of my pocket other than their meals.
William Monroe
11-12-20, 13:02
How you know the political drama in the US has gone too far. When dudes are passing on banging hot young chicks because they hate their views. LOL / jk (kinda).Yeah, and if you think someone who is liberal is "brainwashed" That explains, a lot. No need to get into political talk at all.
Yeah, and if you think someone who is liberal is "brainwashed" That explains, a lot. No need to get into political talk at all.Yeah the chemistry was there as she is from the Bay Area and I'm Asian so we spoke about our travels, human development, and historical sites we've visited. I mentioned it is a shame that civilizations and culture are destroyed and history rewrote by the "winner" of wars. Example, Khmer Rouge, Angkor what, native Americans, Taiwan, Hong Kong, native tribal people. I have always been told not to discuss religion or politics, but she took it off in a different direction. We connected intellectually, but felt like it would take a while to crack. She is going overseas after she graduates.
SA is a great platform to meet young chicks, but the mongering lifestyle seems to have ruined my patience. I have a few more lined up 20 white girl in DT, supposedly a model, but will see if she is DTF or just wants shopping allowance. Another one is away for thanksgiving and should meet up with her when she is back in town. She is 21 and half viet and greek.
The hunt is real and probably the exciting part, but hard to keep junior tame during the meetups. Hopefully I’m not a serial M&G SD. One day I’ll find that diamond in the rough. I miss my times in Dubai spending overnights with the Filipinas, viet, and Ethiopian princesses. They are some of the most beautiful ethnic mix I’ve been with and experienced. Have fun bros and stay safe!
PussyPumper
11-12-20, 13:56
Signed up last week for SA and have met 2 women (19 and 21) for lunch and dinner. ....... No extra money out of my pocket other than their meals.Has it crossed your mind that your last statement may have something to do with the sad blue balls tale you set out?
Sounds to me like the Latina was impatiently waiting for you to make an offer. You didn't. I don't provide assistance just for a M&G, or to watch a girl eat, but I do make an offer. That is why they are meeting you - they need assistance.
As for the Asian, well, did you really think going into the meeting that a typical 19 yo UCSD student is going to be a perfect political match for a truck driving ex-military type? But who cares about her politics! I have nodded my head to many a statement I completely disagree with, so my other head could have fun with a string of hot liberal babes. Enough Benjamins, or once the clothes are off, and she probably won't care either.
Has it crossed your mind that your last statement may have something to do with the sad blue balls tale you set out?
Sounds to me like the Latina was impatiently waiting for you to make an offer. You didn't.
As for the Asian, well, did you really think going into the meeting that a typical 19 yo UCSD student is going to be a perfect political match for a truck driving ex-military type? But in any case, who cares about her politics! I have nodded my head to many a statement I completely disagree with, so my other head could have fun with a string of hot liberal babes. Enough Benjamins, or once the clothes are off, and she probably won't care either.Yeah I'll revisit my approach and be more direct, but then most state they don't want a transactional relationship. I'll just be more direct and if they don't entertain the offer, then just cut my losses. My brain is wired that the first person to provide their desired number is the first loser. I always want them to provide their idea of a reasonable arrangement, but some just seem clueless or must watch videos on how other SB are making money without the romance. It has been fun just meeting random young hotties for lunch or dinner.
PussyPumper
11-12-20, 14:16
Yeah I'll revisit my approach and be more direct, but then most state they don't want a transactional relationship. I'll just be more direct and if they don't entertain the offer, then just cut my losses. My brain is wired that the first person to provide their desired number is the first loser. I always want them to provide their idea of a reasonable arrangement, but some just seem clueless or must watch videos on how other SB are making money without the romance. It has been fun just meeting random young hotties for lunch or dinner.You can spend forever and a day talking to women on SA, and that can be fun. But in the end, one or other of you has to get serious. Lots of women said no to my offers, as too low. Lots of Golden Pussy types out there. But I had a hard upper limit, and I was prepared to walk way. And did. On the other hand, there were also enough women willing to take the offer to keep me in the game.
You can spend forever and a day talking to women on SA, and that can be fun. But in the end, one or other of you has to get serious. Lots of women said no to my offers, as too low. Lots of Golden Pussy types out there. But I had a hard upper limit, and I was prepared to walk way. And did. On the other hand, there were also enough women willing to take the offer to keep me in the game.I hear ya! I just connected with RiInCali on SC and she wanted $200 to clean the house, but then I sent my body pic to her because she wanted more than a face pic. I forgot to put my fleshlight away and it was in the background of the pic. Oh well, keep on fishing and I think that was pretty direct. I got blocked, but she'll clean your house 😊.
I've refrained for getting a paid account because I just can't figure out who's worth my time. So many profiles look like a regular dating profile (like they're looking for a soulmate...with a lot of money), or just have unrealistic expectations. Like the girls that have their passport ready to go to their wishlist of places. Then there are the ugly ones that write about "mutual attraction" in their profile. A lot of girls have favorited my profile without actually viewing it, can't tell if they're trying to drum up business for themselves by just clicking as many profiles as possible? And I get messages from girls that haven't viewed my profile either, of course can't read the messages without going premium. Makes me wonder if the site does that to get guys to pay up.
Also, hard to believe that many girls are out their willing to open their legs for a little money (or maybe a lot of money).
PussyPumper, what's your strategy to identifying targets? Any keywords in their profiles? How quickly do you make an offer? And how direct are you in your words? Like do you say "hey, I got $200 back at my place if you want to wrestle in the sheets for a little while finding it"? Or are you just like "hey, want to go to my place and watch some netflix? I'll compensate you fairly for your time"?
PussyPumper
11-12-20, 18:08
Also, hard to believe that many girls are out their willing to open their legs for a little money (or maybe a lot of money).
PussyPumper, what's your strategy to identifying targets? Any keywords in their profiles? How quickly do you make an offer? And how direct are you in your words? Like do you say "hey, I got $200 back at my place if you want to wrestle in the sheets for a little while finding it"? Or are you just like "hey, want to go to my place and watch some netflix? I'll compensate you fairly for your time"?Actually, there are. Lots of girls ready to open their legs, that is.
Some really need the money, others, who knows, but they are ready.
One thing that SA says that is true is that there are about 4 times as many women on SA locally as there are men. That has been true for 4 years now that I have been checking.
I never make an offer until I have a firm basis for making one, and never on SA itself.
First cut is that there are a lot of women I don't fancy for various reason. Age, looks, nasty tattoos, what they say / don't say in profile (I am not "420 friendly"). In this process I usually also eliminate those that say up front that they are platonic / chat / internet only. Also gone are those that are too glamorous, or obviously GPS. And, very important, eliminate those with too many expectations or rules. Always remember that Daddy sets the rules!
All that filtering will get rid of maybe 20-40% of profiles right there, but not to worry, still loads left!
Second cut is to start messaging. You can easily message a 100 in a day.
Most won't ever answer.
Third and key cut is the actual chatting process. There are several important aspects to this.
- First off, I like to establish practicality from the get go. Do they have availability, does it match mine? Are they down for an intimate arrangement? Previous experience, what do they do, do they have transportation, etc.
- Second aspect is to get a feel for them. Are they able to communicate with you in a reasonable manner? Many fail on that latter point. Random replies, days apart don't impress me.
- Another key point of this initial chatting is to identify the spammers/fakes/frauds - and there are quite a few. I view all those that want an-up front payment of whatever kind, including being paid for an initial M&G, as frauds.
By this time or earlier, conversation will be off of SA. If it looks practical, I like their looks, and they are able to communicate then we will be at the point to discuss expectations for support. Sometimes discussed in person, sometimes via text. Some experts advocate only making an offer in person, as that is the way to get best deal. But an in person M&G burns time, so I tend to discuss via text, even if it is not optimal.
At that point, if she agrees to a reasonable number, then it is time to either schedule a M&G or real date.
FarFarAway
11-12-20, 18:40
I've refrained for getting a paid account because I just can't figure out who's worth my time. So many profiles look like a regular dating profile (like they're looking for a soulmate...with a lot of money), or just have unrealistic expectations. Like the girls that have their passport ready to go to their wishlist of places. Then there are the ugly ones that write about "mutual attraction" in their profile. A lot of girls have favorited my profile without actually viewing it, can't tell if they're trying to drum up business for themselves by just clicking as many profiles as possible? And I get messages from girls that haven't viewed my profile either, of course can't read the messages without going premium. Makes me wonder if the site does that to get guys to pay up.
Also, hard to believe that many girls are out their willing to open their legs for a little money (or maybe a lot of money).
PussyPumper, what's your strategy to identifying targets? Any keywords in their profiles? How quickly do you make an offer? And how direct are you in your words? Like do you say "hey, I got $200 back at my place if you want to wrestle in the sheets for a little while finding it"? Or are you just like "hey, want to go to my place and watch some netflix? I'll compensate you fairly for your time"?I recommend everyone read the Richmond VA thread, particularly the archive, on sugar relationships. It is a treasure trove of info. Do that for 3 days, you'll have a way better idea of what to do. I review it myself from time to time.
Second cut is to start messaging. You can easily message a 100 in a day.Thanks for all of your advice! We should have a SD sticky. I spent way too much of my free time shotgun blasting messages asking if interested in meeting up. Some respond and are down, but like you said most don't respond. I put in my profile nothing platonic, no buying photos, and no scams. I guess I have to be more direct during my chat offline. Most say they are down to meet, but once you provide a SC or phone number to text to take it offline they ghost you. It is really strange, but maybe they are confused with other SD.
Thanks for all of your advice! We should have a SD sticky. I spent way too much of my free time shotgun blasting messages asking if interested in meeting up. Some respond and are down, but like you said most don't respond. I put in my profile nothing platonic, no buying photos, and no scams. I guess I have to be more direct during my chat offline. Most say they are down to meet, but once you provide a SC or phone number to text to take it offline they ghost you. It is really strange, but maybe they are confused with other SD.I just want to share a few points that might be helpful:
* The good news 1st. You will get laid on SA, it's a given. Don't worry.
* Don't talk about politics. I recently met up with a MAGA event going Latina (the irony) & fu*ked her brains out. (Well, she never asked me my view either.).
* They are like that, you will have to get used to it. Some will reply to you later, some won't. I assume the ones that you contacted are hot. One of the girls told me she gets floods of messages daily, 200 from IG, 100 from SC & another 100 from other messaging apps. Some of them just want the attention as well.
* Sounds like you are on the younger side. That's really your advantage. You are a Vet, worldly, that shows masculinity, girls love that. I'd say it's just a matter of time.
* Finally, watch out for GPSs, don't over pay. If you find a 9, 10, and you are financially comfortable, go for it. The rest, be patient, there are so many more.
(please do share post the GPSs & Flakes here so we all get better together).
I just want to share a few points that might be helpful:
* The good news 1st. You will get laid on SA, it's a given. Don't worry.
* Don't talk about politics. I recently met up with a MAGA event going Latina (the irony) & fu*ked her brains out. (Well, she never asked me my view either.).
* They are like that, you will have to get used to it. Some will reply to you later, some won't. I assume the ones that you contacted are hot. One of the girls told me she gets floods of messages daily, 200 from IG, 100 from SC & another 100 from other messaging apps. Some of them just want the attention as well.
* Sounds like you are on the younger side. That's really your advantage. You are a Vet, worldly, that shows masculinity, girls love that. I'd say it's just a matter of time.
* Finally, watch out for GPSs, don't over pay. If you find a 9, 10, and you are financially comfortable, go for it. The rest, be patient, there are so many more.
(please do share post the GPSs & Flakes here so we all get better together).I would love to meet said MAGA Latina chick if she is on the younger side. I'm closer to 40 but in good shape due to gym. I know the AMP girls love me as they always state how hard my muscles are and even the front desk manager was trying to squeeze my chest. I wish I could travel since I want to see Vietnam, Thailand, and possibly Columbia.
https://www.seeking.com/member/b4977292-08f0-44aa-8153-fdb8492c690b Wants $500 and has some nice booty private photos.
https://www.seeking.com/member/e63094dd-ee72-439c-b1b1-10ac4578e730 Wants $800 and is smoking hot to me anyways. Let me know if any of you can get them down. I find it hard to negotiate down as I don't want shit service.
One Asian chick I was supposed to meet this weekend and she gave me her number and has been keeping me updated on her schedule, but she took down her profile, so not sure what happened. 21 year old Latina is still in play as I messaged her about doing something, but she made plans with her friends. She is supposedly bi so who knows maybe a friend can party as well 🤔
Good hunting bros!
PussyPumper
11-13-20, 00:59
Thanks for all of your advice! We should have a SD sticky. I spent way too much of my free time shotgun blasting messages asking if interested in meeting up. Some respond and are down, but like you said most don't respond. I put in my profile nothing platonic, no buying photos, and no scams. I guess I have to be more direct during my chat offline. Most say they are down to meet, but once you provide a SC or phone number to text to take it offline they ghost you. It is really strange, but maybe they are confused with other SD.Two things:
- When I said contact 100 in a day, I was exaggerating a bit. I use a period lurking as a non-VIP member to pre-select women I might be interested in. I "favorite" them as the only available way to bookmark them. Then, when I become a paid member again, I have a bunch of profiles I know I am interested in, and I usually have a few pre-drafted introductory messages to send, so I can contact a large number relatively rapidly.
- Second point is that the majority of SBs don't actually read profiles, even when you message them. That is all too clear!
I would love to meet said MAGA Latina chick if she is on the younger side. I'm closer to 40 but in good shape due to gym. I know the AMP girls love me as they always state how hard my muscles are and even the front desk manager was trying to squeeze my chest. I wish I could travel since I want to see Vietnam, Thailand, and possibly Columbia.
https://www.seeking.com/member/b4977292-08f0-44aa-8153-fdb8492c690b Wants $500 and has some nice booty private photos.
https://www.seeking.com/member/e63094dd-ee72-439c-b1b1-10ac4578e730 Wants $800 and is smoking hot to me anyways. Let me know if any of you can get them down. I find it hard to negotiate down as I don't want shit service.
One Asian chick I was supposed to meet this weekend and she gave me her number and has been keeping me updated on her schedule, but she took down her profile, so not sure what happened. 21 year old Latina is still in play as I messaged her about doing something, but she made plans with her friends. She is supposedly bi so who knows maybe a friend can party as well
Good hunting bros!The one you said wants 500 is on HX quotes are 200 hhr and 300 hr, under the name "Viktoria".
FarFarAway
11-13-20, 11:16
Thanks for all of your advice! We should have a SD sticky. I spent way too much of my free time shotgun blasting messages asking if interested in meeting up. Some respond and are down, but like you said most don't respond. I put in my profile nothing platonic, no buying photos, and no scams. I guess I have to be more direct during my chat offline. Most say they are down to meet, but once you provide a SC or phone number to text to take it offline they ghost you. It is really strange, but maybe they are confused with other SD.To each their own, but your approach reads to me more like picking up a SW than courting a SB. If you are negotiating $ w / a POT you've never met, that is pretty much where you are. As I said, to each their own, but if you want a peak experience (a girl who isn't selling it to anyone who calls / emails / texts, who is as beautiful as any model or actress you've seen, and is a TRUE GFE), you won't get it your way.
PussyPumper
11-13-20, 14:07
The one you said wants 500 is on HX quotes are 200 hhr and 300 hr, under the name "Viktoria".Perhaps the biggest attraction of SA is that you can find hot, attractive young women who are NOT like HX pros, quoting by the hour, and charging by "menu" item. Instead, you can date "ordinary," normal coeds, waitresses, nurses, etc, without worrying about 30 min being up.
And if you don't agree, and want to go with the pro, then just remember that contacting them on HX is a lot cheaper than using SA!
Perhaps the biggest attraction of SA is that you can find hot, attractive young women who are NOT like HX pros, quoting by the hour, and charging by "menu" item. Instead, you can date "ordinary," normal coeds, waitresses, nurses, etc, without worrying about 30 min being up.
And if you don't agree, and want to go with the pro, then just remember that contacting them on HX is a lot cheaper than using SA!Not seeking pros, but guess I just find them. Maybe need to lower my standards, but rather not have to pay for average.
https://www.seeking.com/member/2155da96-52a8-4962-b8f0-26e42ccea226 Wants $500 stated everything and one and done. She doesn't host.
FingerLicking
11-13-20, 16:47
Not seeking pros, but guess I just find them. Maybe need to lower my standards, but rather not have to pay for average.
https://www.seeking.com/member/2155da96-52a8-4962-b8f0-26e42ccea226 Wants $500 stated everything and one and done. She doesn't host.Don't do it. These girls are online constantly, which means very few are paying that price.
Don't do it. These girls are online constantly, which means very few are paying that price.Yeah I wouldn't pay that as one and done just wouldn't work. If it was an overnight, then maybe. Most I've texted had arrangements with people that from SF that arranged hotel. I have plenty of AMP providers that offer everything and they make sure you are taken care of and satisfied. It seems the SB must have some script as $500 seems to be the norm, but for that price definitely need msog and hopefully blows my mind. One of the AMP providers I know rides me like a jockey in the Kentucky Derby. I feel like a winner after every session and my legs are shaky.
Has it crossed your mind that your last statement may have something to do with the sad blue balls tale you set out?
Sounds to me like the Latina was impatiently waiting for you to make an offer. You didn't. I don't provide assistance just for a M&G, or to watch a girl eat, but I do make an offer. That is why they are meeting you - they need assistance.
As for the Asian, well, did you really think going into the meeting that a typical 19 yo UCSD student is going to be a perfect political match for a truck driving ex-military type? But who cares about her politics! I have nodded my head to many a statement I completely disagree with, so my other head could have fun with a string of hot liberal babes. Enough Benjamins, or once the clothes are off, and she probably won't care either.LOL I was goin say the same but held back just incase he's true to his cause!! On the other hand hells yes forget "POLITICS" when there's a juicy pussy in front! I'd probably sold my cause to get that asian chick in my bed LOL or the back seat of your big truck!!
Friends les not forget the "Objective" get these SA chicks panties drop!! Free or Paid (hope not that much!) or just stick to HX lmao!!
So do we get the link on that UCSD chick?
PussyPumper
11-14-20, 03:24
Not seeking pros, but guess I just find them. Maybe need to lower my standards, but rather not have to pay for average.
https://www.seeking.com/member/2155da96-52a8-4962-b8f0-26e42ccea226 Wants $500 stated everything and one and done. She doesn't host.Why do you have to lower your standards?
The SBs on SA are, on average, much more attractive to me than the clapped out old ****** on HX.
On HX:
- Many have been on the go for 15-20 years, same old faces, but now granny age (50+ some of them).
- Lots of baby bodies, lots of tattoos, and many loose bodies and pussies.
- Lots use fake or heavily photoshopped photos, especially the popular Asian clubs.
Another way you seem to have it backwards is that you obviously have a brainwashed John idea that she has a rate, and you can't / don't question that.
If you ask an SB for what she would accept, she is of course going to ask for a substantial number. You would too. But it is almost always just an opening bid. If you have any game at all, you should be able to get a discount. I commonly got 500 down to 250-300.
PussyPumper
11-14-20, 03:32
To each their own, but your approach reads to me more like picking up a SW than courting a SB. If you are negotiating $ w / a POT you've never met, that is pretty much where you are. As I said, to each their own, but if you want a peak experience (a girl who isn't selling it to anyone who calls / emails / texts, who is as beautiful as any model or actress you've seen, and is a TRUE GFE), you won't get it your way.+1. Spot on. The logic of OP is that of a John picking up a pro.
Why do you have to lower your standards?
The SBs on SA are, on average, much more attractive to me than the clapped out old ****** on HX.
On HX:
- Many have been on the go for 15-20 years, same old faces, but now granny age (50+ some of them).
- Lots of baby bodies, lots of tattoos, and many loose bodies and pussies.
- Lots use fake or heavily photoshopped photos, especially the popular Asian clubs.
Another way you seem to have it backwards is that you obviously have a brainwashed John idea that she has a rate, and you can't / don't question that.
If you ask an SB for what she would accept, she is of course going to ask for a substantial number. You would too. But it is almost always just an opening bid. If you have any game at all, you should be able to get a discount. I commonly got 500 down to 250-300.I don't utilize HX and mostly went to AMPs, international, or HK in TJ. I have 3 lined up to meet and see if I take it away from monetary discussion and actually see how relationship goes. One is going to workout at the gym and another for dinner. I will have to circle back to the Latina if she wants to do something fun and come back to the place for more drinks. It is an interesting website as I haven't had luck on POF or Tinder. Prefer meeting someone 25 or younger. The sad part is most I've chatted with lost their jobs due to these lockdowns and we are going into another lockdown. We will probably see more reasonable arrangements with holidays coming up. Invest in assets like real estate, precious metals, and crypto as they are about to print the shit out of our currency. I miss international arrangements where you pay $100-200 for a GFE overnight with hotties, but then San Diego is so expensive for these ladies. I sure will let you guys know how it goes as being direct and to the point got me some gps rates which signals a pro to me. 🤔
All of this time/effort and potential wallet draining makes me think I should just get a GT500.
FarFarAway
11-14-20, 10:10
I don't utilize HX and mostly went to AMPs, international, or HK in TJ. I have 3 lined up to meet and see if I take it away from monetary discussion and actually see how relationship goes. One is going to workout at the gym and another for dinner. I will have to circle back to the Latina if she wants to do something fun and come back to the place for more drinks. It is an interesting website as I haven't had luck on POF or Tinder. Prefer meeting someone 25 or younger. The sad part is most I've chatted with lost their jobs due to these lockdowns and we are going into another lockdown. We will probably see more reasonable arrangements with holidays coming up. Invest in assets like real estate, precious metals, and crypto as they are about to print the shit out of our currency. I miss international arrangements where you pay $100-200 for a GFE overnight with hotties, but then San Diego is so expensive for these ladies. I sure will let you guys know how it goes as being direct and to the point got me some gps rates which signals a pro to me.You can do what you want, obviously, but a cardinal rule of sugaring is never have them at your own place. This is a serious violation of your operational security, even if you are single, there's a lot of ways this could come back to bite you. There is a 'bible' of sugar, the archive of the Richmond VA sugar thread, you should read it.
You can do what you want, obviously, but a cardinal rule of sugaring is never have them at your own place. This is a serious violation of your operational security, even if you are single, there's a lot of ways this could come back to bite you. There is a 'bible' of sugar, the archive of the Richmond VA sugar thread, you should read it.Yeah, I know not to meet up at my place, but I'm still wondering if any of them will ever try and blackmail me in the future. I'm sure the risk is low, especially since I'm pretty much a nobody and not rich, but if they're crazy enough I'm sure they could figure out a way to get more money out of you.
Also I looked up that thread. IT's got like 19 k posts dating back to 2010. I looked around and there's some good stuff, but there's so much I don't know where to start.
You can do what you want, obviously, but a cardinal rule of sugaring is never have them at your own place. This is a serious violation of your operational security, even if you are single, there's a lot of ways this could come back to bite you. There is a 'bible' of sugar, the archive of the Richmond VA sugar thread, you should read it.Thanks for the advice, but I got a good gauge of the local girl / Latina in the area after the dinner / interrogation. I'm not one to be scared in life as I should have died many times over in the military and working as a contractor in war zones for 4 years. I have plenty of firepower if things were to go down, but we are in the socialist republic of CA after all so hugs for everyone. The only issue for me would be false legal charges as I do have assets to protect, but that is what good legal advisors are for.
I am looking for a relationship where I wine, dine, romance, and possibly do some travel / hobbies with them. Just coming out of an 18 yr. relationship, I’m looking for knock my socks off, leg quivering fun and excitement minus adding more kids to the world. I've got some international trips lined up next year (non monger) like Alaska and Caribbean I'd like to bring someone along. I've done this in Thailand bringing someone to Cambodia and was a success. The university women I've met seem to be psychology or sociology majors so maybe the sugar life is a research paper they have to complete for future project. Hope to find that special one or two to provide monetary support, but then if too much hassle, I'll just order a GT500 and stick with AMPs and international mongering trips to Thai, PI, Columbia, Dubai, etc. I need to meet a Romanian women if any of you have recommendations.
The Richmond VA sugar thread has some epic posts. It is very entertaining read. I'm glad we are not in a small market as it would be rough if you found family or friends online.
FarFarAway
11-15-20, 10:40
The Richmond VA sugar thread has some epic posts. It is very entertaining read. I'm glad we are not in a small market as it would be rough if you found family or friends online.The point is, that Richmond thread is the de facto national thread for sugaring, IDK why. Of course guys also post local stuff there, but it is the bible.
I was worried about people I know when I first joined sites, but really, the world is just very big, no matter where you are. I've never had a problem.
The point is, that Richmond thread is the de facto national thread for sugaring, IDK why. Of course guys also post local stuff there, but it is the bible.
I was worried about people I know when I first joined sites, but really, the world is just very big, no matter where you are. I've never had a problem.Yeah, SA is more exciting for the chase, but the delayed responses and completely disappearing from the site is strange, but maybe they found out sugar doesn't come free. False expectations from YT and news articles. I am sure some SD offer free money to spend time with younger women to watch them eat or conversation, but I could just go to a strip joint to get some young women to spend time grinding away on my lap. International travel screwed me with how good it is to be an American on foreign soil.
PussyPumper
11-15-20, 19:05
I'm glad we are not in a small market as it would be rough if you found family or friends online.But it is small enough. Over the years I noticed:
- A work colleague from down the corridor, on SA as a Daddy (one reason I don't have photos on SA)
- One of the hot Asian students, on SA as a SB (a second reason I don't have photos on SA!).
- I was going to date a Latina former porn star on SA until I realized I know her (and she knows me), from her regular job (a third reason for no photos).
- I ran into an Asian porn star SB I did date (Christy Love), on several social occasions.
- I have seen a former long-term Asian SB out and about.
So, I would say that the chance of running into someone you know on SA is actually quite high! If you read enough here and on other sites you will see stories of very brave daddies screwing SBs who are neighbors, or friends/schoolmates of their children, etc. Crazy risky!
p.s. This is also the reason I always insist on seeing an SB face photo before I show any of mine. No exceptions.
But it is small enough. Over the years I noticed:
- A work colleague from down the corridor, on SA as a Daddy (one reason I don't have photos on SA)
- One of the hot Asian students, on SA as a SB (a second reason I don't have photos on SA!).
- I was going to date a Latina former porn star on SA until I realized I know her (and she knows me), from her regular job (a third reason for no photos).
- I ran into an Asian porn star SB I did date, on several social occasions.
- I have seen a former long-term Asian SB out and about.
So, I would say that the chance of running into someone you know on SA is actually quite high! And if you read stories here and on other sites you will see stories of very brave daddies screwing SBs who are neighbors, at their son's school, etc. Crazy risky!I have my photos on SA and not too worried as most of the people I work with are probably close to retirement age. I wish I had young people working at my job and most I have M&G with have been working college students trying to make ends meet. I still haven't found the long term GFE arrangement, but working on it. I just don't want to get anyone pregnant (who needs to pay more child support) or be falsely accused of anything on the legal front, so chemistry and being transparent hopefully works out. I know pros are one, done, and go about your day. Who knows the true ulterior motives of women that are trying to attract men with means with their honey pot. I miss the Hong Kong walk ups, Macau saunas, and hope to transfer to Singapore once my kids are a little older.
Koolbeans, Saw your posts about SB and your international experience. I was traveling to Asia every month 10+ years ago and I had lot of fun back then (China, HK, Japan). Economy crashed and international travel stopped. I missed that experience and started exploring SA about 8 yrs ago. Had some fun back then and tried to get back several times recent years but just too many Pros and GPS. I tried SA a year ago, and just too much time and money. Not worthy IMO.
I am hoping to be able to travel again. BTW, I have been going to HK several times a year in the last several yrs and 141 is awesome.
I have my photos on SA and not too worried as most of the people I work with are probably close to retirement age. I wish I had young people working at my job and most I have M&G with have been working college students trying to make ends meet. I still haven't found the long term GFE arrangement, but working on it. I just don't want to get anyone pregnant (who needs to pay more child support) or be falsely accused of anything on the legal front, so chemistry and being transparent hopefully works out. I know pros are one, done, and go about your day. Who knows the true ulterior motives of women that are trying to attract men with means with their honey pot. I miss the Hong Kong walk ups, Macau saunas, and hope to transfer to Singapore once my kids are a little older.
AeroStartC
11-16-20, 01:39
I need to meet a Romanian women if any of you have recommendations.www.ukrainedate.com
JWalker350
11-16-20, 02:18
Don't do it. These girls are online constantly, which means very few are paying that price.Totally agree.
Koolbeans, Saw your posts about SB and your international experience. I was traveling to Asia every month 10+ years ago and I had lot of fun back then (China, HK, Japan). Economy crashed and international travel stopped. I missed that experience and started exploring SA about 8 yrs ago. Had some fun back then and tried to get back several times recent years but just too many Pros and GPS. I tried SA a year ago, and just too much time and money. Not worthy IMO.
I am hoping to be able to travel again. BTW, I have been going to HK several times a year in the last several yrs and 141 is awesome.Yeah, hope you made the ferry to Macau saunas. I had some banging viet, indo, and Russian pros, but the best experiences were with the viet massage, HJ ladies. It has to rank up there with the hottest experiences as she took me to a private room for a HJ, then things progressed to kissing and her riding me bare cowgirl on the recliner. She kept telling me to stay quiet as it is supposed to be just a HJ and then proceeded to keep whispering in my ear how bad I was. She let me CIP so hope I don't have little ones around the world.
I never cared to keep numbers back then as didn't want any evidence. International trips really sour experiences in the USA I have a few dates lined up and will see how things go. The gym I went to tonight had some banging bodies, but it is hard to tell who is hooked up, but maybe I'll try to test it. When I was married my goal was to get as quickly in and out of arrangements as possible and now have to rewire myself to building rapport and dating which I haven't done in over 20 years. If I can find a couple blow my mind GFE arrangements that are consistent, then it can hold me over for the international trips. Really want to check out Medellin and Vietnam. Have fun bros and thanks for sharing your knowledge!
www.ukrainedate.comCare to share personal experience? A buddy has a wife from Hungary. Don't think I will ever get married again, but I've been listening to Romanian music and watching cam girls that are my type and they seem abundant in Romania.
Went to Macau but my wild experience was in DG. No more now.
I do have SO, so have a lot of limitations when playing in the bowl. For you. Single, should be no problem getting some civi dates. I was back to AMP, and asian agencies for my fun before COVID hit. Now, I have been a "good boy" since March. Once got the vaccine, I am getting a 18 yo SB regardless to the $. LOL. Have fun and let us know.
Yeah, hope you made the ferry to Macau saunas. I had some banging viet, indo, and Russian pros, but the best experiences were with the viet massage, HJ ladies. It has to rank up there with the hottest experiences as she took me to a private room for a HJ, then things progressed to kissing and her riding me bare cowgirl on the recliner. She kept telling me to stay quiet as it is supposed to be just a HJ and then proceeded to keep whispering in my ear how bad I was. She let me CIP so hope I don't have little ones around the world.
I never cared to keep numbers back then as didn't want any evidence. International trips really sour experiences in the USA I have a few dates lined up and will see how things go. The gym I went to tonight had some banging bodies, but it is hard to tell who is hooked up, but maybe I'll try to test it. When I was married my goal was to get as quickly in and out of arrangements as possible and now have to rewire myself to building rapport and dating which I haven't done in over 20 years. If I can find a couple blow my mind GFE arrangements that are consistent, then it can hold me over for the international trips. Really want to check out Medellin and Vietnam. Have fun bros and thanks for sharing your knowledge!
DanteHaversham
11-16-20, 14:59
That past few days I've been connecting with pot that sound great then say they need cash app or gift card to meet. Here is an example of one.
https://www.seeking.com/member/275a8cb5-22dd-4ae6-a6e8-e64c61ee0195
AeroStartC
11-16-20, 18:38
Care to share personal experience? A buddy has a wife from Hungary. Don't think I will ever get married again, but I've been listening to Romanian music and watching cam girls that are my type and they seem abundant in Romania.The girls are constantly pinging you. I have not been there, but a good friend of mine has no problem having 3-5 dates lined up each time over there. He selects one, and she travels all over with him. I get messages all the time from girls just looking for a decent guy to have a great time with, and more.
PussyPumper
11-17-20, 02:40
All this talk of women 5-7,000 miles away.
In places no one can visit.
Personally, I prefer a woman located within a 15 min drive!
If you can't find someone you like among the 10,000+ local women on SA, then you have a problem.
PussyPumper
11-17-20, 02:51
This porn star is online on SA right now.
https://www.seeking.com/member/668d7396-aefb-40ab-915b-52aa30eae624
This porn star was on SA three hours ago
https://www.seeking.com/member/7f46a01a-209a-419a-8721-4c2276260841
This porn star was on SA within the week.
https://www.seeking.com/member/668d7396-aefb-40ab-915b-52aa30eae624
This porn star is online on SA right now.
https://www.seeking.com/member/668d7396-aefb-40ab-915b-52aa30eae624
This porn star was on SA three hours ago
https://www.seeking.com/member/7f46a01a-209a-419a-8721-4c2276260841
This porn star was on SA within the week.
https://www.seeking.com/member/668d7396-aefb-40ab-915b-52aa30eae624What have they quoted you? I wish Riley Reid was on the site. I met her at AVN and had both cheeks in my hands. I have a couple M&G scheduled and some asked $800 and most $500, while others ghost me once they know I'm new to the site. Most are very flaky and respond to texts hours or days later so not sure of meeting up as it feels like a scam. One was going to meet up but said she was out of town and wanted me to send money for her to model it on SC, but I opted out and then personality turned ugly. Sp much effort, but I did visit an AMP and she did a great job of draining junior. I will keep on plugging away and hope to find an ideal arrangement soon.
PussyPumper
11-17-20, 03:27
What have they quoted you? I wish Riley Reid was on the site. I met her at AVN and had both cheeks in my hands. I have a couple M&G scheduled and some asked $800 and most $500, while others ghost me once they know I'm new to the site. Most are very flaky and respond to texts hours or days later so not sure of meeting up as it feels like a scam. One was going to meet up but said she was out of town and wanted me to send money for her to model it on SC, but I opted out and then personality turned ugly. Sp much effort, but I did visit an AMP and she did a great job of draining junior. I will keep on plugging away and hope to find an ideal arrangement soon.You will find that what they will agree to is a function of how needy they are, how good your game is, and whether they fancy you.
I know numbers can vary by a factor of 5.
Why don't you give it a try, and report back?
PussyPumper
11-17-20, 04:45
You will find that what they will agree to is a function of how needy they are, how good your game is, and whether they fancy you.
I know numbers can vary by a factor of 5.
Why don't you give it a try, and report back?Lots of motivational videos out there. Datz and Christy appeared together in several.
https://jp.spankbang.com/2i2qf/video/first+time.
https://www.seeking.com/member/857f3311-fd54-4008-9670-d1e3db09b80f
Wants $600 half Hispanic and Italian, offered $$$ and ghosted. That pear booty 😜, going to stick to my guns.
https://www.seeking.com/member/97694983-2369-4215-9965-66117f36fb75
Wants $500 and can’t host.
FFFTracy favorited me and I started texting. She has an onlyfans and sells photos, acted like she was willing to meet up, but held firm on only exchanging money at meetup. Filipina in OC. The quarantine has really created opportunities for half decent looking girls to sell photos. Probably could rent out a whole club in PI for the gps these young Asian girls are asking.
Search continues.
PussyPumper
11-17-20, 23:03
While I still think that there are reasonable finds on SA, I have to admit that they are fewer and further between as the years pass. Cute college coeds are being steadily replaced by OnlyFans and platonic girls.
So, can anyone share any experiences or perspectives on these two possible alternative fishing sites:
SDC, a swingers site. Obviously more attractive for couples, www.sdc.com and.
FetLife.
Any successes, failures?
Thanks.
While I still think that there are reasonable finds on SA, I have to admit that they are fewer and further between as the years pass. Cute college coeds are being steadily replaced by OnlyFans and platonic girls.Yeah been running into a lot of scammers and probably dudes in foreign countries sending professional photos. Most of the young women I've met have nose rings like cattle, not sure what that is all about, but I still haven't found the ideal arrangement. The pornstar Datz gave me a crazy story that had used to get $6,500 per month allowance but will give me a deal at $800 ppm. I guess that is her BF special for being so handsome 😧 I told her my ideal arrangement is $300 and we parted ways.
I'm considering going across the border as the women are more realistic about bedroom gymnastics, but they might have a worse issue with COVID than here in the states. At least the pros offer their services and have incalls. The funny thing is that the SA women will text you, but then will take their time to respond with M&G scheduling or totally ghost you. I guess it is all a part of the sugar game. Like they say no money no honey. I'm going to spend the money and get some tattoos. Hopefully you're having better luck on SA.
Decadentme
11-19-20, 03:00
There are 2 things to add to this.
One:
If you are using an windows base Operating system. Every time you access a website that is using the right type of tracking set up it records you SID for your file system that is individualized per system.
Two:
?Website tacki8 ng soft ware can also save your MAC address which is embedded in all internet traffic per the TCP / IP suite standard. You can spoof you MAC address but it can get a bit tricky, and if you delve into the intricacies of TCP / IP it can be a rabbit hole.
Needless to say there are multiple bits of information that can be save about the system you are using to track a person.What about if one uses TOR browser and a VPN?
FarFarAway
11-19-20, 11:09
What about if one uses TOR browser and a VPN?You wouldn't want to use both. Tor should be sufficient. It is effectively a super VPN. You can't, however, use that on SA right now. I have used EPIC in the past, which has one built-in VPN, but it does not work either.
Respect to the MAC address, that you can change. There are apps to do this. As others have stated, there are ways to 'fingerprint' a user based on stuff like browser window size, etc. So change that up too. Don't use the defaults on your machine.
Pay to Play
11-19-20, 11:16
Met up with this one earlier this week. She looks better in person then her pics and was straight forward in her approach. We started texting in the morning and set up a date for mid afternoon. She couldn't host and I didn't feel like shelling out the money for a room, so we did a car date. Nice thing about COVID is that there a plenty parking lots with limited traffic. Find a deserted corner and crawl in the back seat. Definitely got that girl next door look. She climbed on top and took the CIP.
https://www.seeking.com/member/036036d0-8ca7-438d-82a0-c7a4bf2c3b09
Pay to Play
11-19-20, 11:31
All this talk of women 5-7,000 miles away.
In places no one can visit.
Personally, I prefer a woman located within a 15 min drive!
If you can't find someone you like among the 10,000+ local women on SA, then you have a problem.I agree. There are plenty of fish in this sea. I can easily find a new girl every week in San Diego. You just have to be willing to pay 3-4 is what I consider the sweet spot. Have a place to meet or be willing to get a room and meet soon. I have had better results with a quick trigger then to try to schedule s something later. To often they will second guess and flake. And as I have said before, you have to have a little game.
DanteHaversham
11-19-20, 14:18
Met up with this one earlier this week. She looks better in person then her pics and was straight forward in her approach. We started texting in the morning and set up a date for mid afternoon. She couldn't host and I didn't feel like shelling out the money for a room, so we did a car date. Nice thing about COVID is that there a plenty parking lots with limited traffic. Find a deserted corner and crawl in the back seat. Definitely got that girl next door look. She climbed on top and took the CIP.
https://www.seeking.com/member/036036d0-8ca7-438d-82a0-c7a4bf2c3b09What allowance did you negotiate?
PussyPumper
11-19-20, 20:18
Met up with this one earlier this week. She looks better in person then her pics and was straight forward in her approach. We started texting in the morning and set up a date for mid afternoon. She couldn't host and I didn't feel like shelling out the money for a room, so we did a car date. Nice thing about COVID is that there a plenty parking lots with limited traffic. Find a deserted corner and crawl in the back seat. Definitely got that girl next door look. She climbed on top and took the CIP.
https://www.seeking.com/member/036036d0-8ca7-438d-82a0-c7a4bf2c3b09Must be a large car, with generous back seat. Blackout windows?
Always seemed risky to me!
PussyPumper
11-19-20, 20:21
You wouldn't want to use both. Tor should be sufficient. It is effectively a super VPN. You can't, however, use that on SA right now. I am logged in on SA via TOR right now. They originally allowed TOR, then banned it around 2-3 years ago. At some point this year, they allowed it again.
While TOR was banned, I used the Opera browser, which has built-in free VPN, and / or ProtonVPN, which is also free.
Using these technologies, SA will not see your MAC.
I agree. There are plenty of fish in this sea. I can easily find a new girl every week in San Diego. You just have to be willing to pay 3-4 is what I consider the sweet spot. Have a place to meet or be willing to get a room and meet soon. I have had better results with a quick trigger then to try to schedule s something later. To often they will second guess and flake. And as I have said before, you have to have a little game.Don't overpay. Most of the so called "sb's" / semi-pros / pros on SA will agree to 3-400, and with some effort and game on your part you can do better. There are lots of options, whether it's a true sb vs all the pros now on site is the difference. Was in contact with one recently, https://www.seeking.com/member/889fbec8-e897-4712-986a-a7c4a1c070f0 asking for 500 ppm. Thats way more than my usual and she immediately comes down to 4. Without too much difficulty it now drops to 250 if I get a hotel near her or it goes up to 3 if she has to drive to my place. Getting a room is not my preference since I have no problems using my own place and still having success at 2-250 Ended up not closing the deal for now, may revisit in the future.
PussyPumper
11-20-20, 02:54
The pornstar Datz gave me a crazy story that had used to get $6,500 per month allowance but will give me a deal at $800 ppm. I guess that is her BF special for being so handsome 😧 I told her my ideal arrangement is $300 and we parted ways.
Sounds like Datz all right. That is her initial ask. But at least one gentlemen on here mentioned having her for less than your offer.
AdventureLyf
11-20-20, 10:50
I'm in Sa on epic right now.
You wouldn't want to use both. Tor should be sufficient. It is effectively a super VPN. You can't, however, use that on SA right now. I have used EPIC in the past, which has one built-in VPN, but it does not work either.
Respect to the MAC address, that you can change. There are apps to do this. As others have stated, there are ways to 'fingerprint' a user based on stuff like browser window size, etc. So change that up too. Don't use the defaults on your machine.
Yeah been running into a lot of scammers and probably dudes in foreign countries sending professional photos. Most of the young women I've met have nose rings like cattle, not sure what that is all about, but I still haven't found the ideal arrangement. The pornstar Datz gave me a crazy story that had used to get $6,500 per month allowance but will give me a deal at $800 ppm. I guess that is her BF special for being so handsome 😧 I told her my ideal arrangement is $300 and we parted ways.
I'm considering going across the border as the women are more realistic about bedroom gymnastics, but they might have a worse issue with COVID than here in the states. At least the pros offer their services and have incalls. The funny thing is that the SA women will text you, but then will take their time to respond with M&G scheduling or totally ghost you. I guess it is all a part of the sugar game. Like they say no money no honey. I'm going to spend the money and get some tattoos. Hopefully you're having better luck on SA.
I agree. It took me a while to get used to the fact that they'll reply whenever they feel like. It is just a part of the game & we'll just have to hit it at the right time. It has happened so many times that when I was free, they weren't interested. Then situation changed, I was caught up with work and other stuff, then out of nowhere, they want to meet up & I wasn't available.
Interestingly, I see they tend to be more eager to meet up & have fun at the end of the month, when rents are due.
FarFarAway
11-20-20, 17:06
IDK what magic you guys have. Perhaps it is that I am on a Mac. I can get Tor to work, but it is very slow. For Epic, I still have the experience that the log in appears to succeed, but the darn thing just sits there and grinds and grinds, never opening the home page.
Pay to Play
11-20-20, 19:16
Don't overpay. Most of the so called "sb's" / semi-pros / pros on SA will agree to 3-400, and with some effort and game on your part you can do better. There are lots of options, whether it's a true sb vs all the pros now on site is the difference. Was in contact with one recently, https://www.seeking.com/member/889fbec8-e897-4712-986a-a7c4a1c070f0 asking for 500 ppm. Thats way more than my usual and she immediately comes down to 4. Without too much difficulty it now drops to 250 if I get a hotel near her or it goes up to 3 if she has to drive to my place. Getting a room is not my preference since I have no problems using my own place and still having success at 2-250 Ended up not closing the deal for now, may revisit in the future.Agreed that you can find deals out there. I have a recurring sb for 2 per meet. But it is also like a needle in the haystack. It's all about your budget and tolerance for missing out. Now what I don't understand in the girls expecting 800 and up.
PussyPumper
11-20-20, 19:59
Agreed that you can find deals out there. I have a recurring sb for 2 per meet. But it is also like a needle in the haystack. It's all about your budget and tolerance for missing out. Now what I don't understand in the girls expecting 800 and up.IMHO there are several factors driving this.
1. There are other locations where rates appear to be much higher than here, think Silicon Valley, NYC. That gets publicity even on mainstream media, and distorts what SBs perceive to be normal.
2. SA propaganda is that the world is full of whales, and they can get hundreds for just looking pretty, let alone opening their legs. That influences SB perception. I have communicated with a fair number who seem really convinced that they just have to sit back, and 4-5 k per month will be theirs.
3. Those who need cash tend to be realistic, but a large percentage of the SBs are (I think) just chancing their arm. That is, they don't need the money (or don't seem to), and are happy to text, in the off-chance that a whale will come along. (They also think whales are more common than they really are, see 2.).
4. The FOSTA inspired death of various outlets has put up escort prices, seemingly leading to a flood of Johns into the SB world, Johns who are used to paying a lot more for very little.
FarFarAway
11-20-20, 20:16
IMHO there are several factors driving this.
1. There are other locations where rates appear to be much higher than here, think Silicon Valley, NYC. That gets publicity even on mainstream media, and distorts what SBs perceive to be normal.
2. SA propaganda is that the world is full of whales, and they can get hundreds for just looking pretty, let alone opening their legs. That influences SB perception. I have communicated with a fair number who seem really convinced that they just have to sit back, and 4-5 k per month will be theirs.
3. Those who need cash tend to be realistic, but a large percentage of the SBs are (I think) just chancing their arm. That is, they don't need the money (or don't seem to), and are happy to text, in the off-chance that a whale will come along. (They also think whales are more common than they really are, see 2.).
4. The FOSTA inspired death of various outlets has put up escort prices, seemingly leading to a flood of Johns into the SB world, Johns who are used to paying a lot more for very little.About 1 - my bowl buddy moved from NYC to Nashville. He said the incredible numbers of high quality SBs in NYC made competition fierce, and prices more reasonable. He is disappointed in the smaller market of Nashville, lots of high prices.
Agreed that you can find deals out there. I have a recurring sb for 2 per meet. But it is also like a needle in the haystack. It's all about your budget and tolerance for missing out. Now what I don't understand in the girls expecting 800 and up.Yeah I've found a few willing to meet up for $$ but I want bare with CIP and they said they weren't my girl 😧.
I also had some message me out of the blue by text that they are ready to meet, but the texts arrive at odd hours in the day when I am not available. It is like trying to find a needle in the haystack. Working from home has got me bored out of my mind, but at the least the gym is open. I'll have to attempt approaching the ladies always working on their glutes. 😜.
I did go on escortbabylon and met a young 22 yr from Vegas for $. 6 hhr that had the softest skin, butt and nice Ds, but she freaked out when I started licking on her nipples. It was still a decent experience since she was so soft, but need more intimacy. One SB said she offers covered sex, kissing, but no BJ for $$$ for hour ppm. I'll keep looking for that bare CIP, blow my mind sex. Happy hunting bros no stay safe!
https://www.seeking.com/member/e36c1af9-73fe-493c-b2e7-daa5455a58b0
She wants $500 weekly allowance and told her my budget is $300. She is my ideal type, but not sure how she would perform. I need a freak, but GND looks. Guess that is every SD wish. Maybe Santa will be nice for Christmas 😜.
Pay to Play
11-21-20, 21:59
Yeah I've found a few willing to meet up for $$ but I want bare with CIP and they said they weren't my girl 😧.
I also had some message me out of the blue by text that they are ready to meet, but the texts arrive at odd hours in the day when I am not available. It is like trying to find a needle in the haystack. Working from home has got me bored out of my mind, but at the least the gym is open. I'll have to attempt approaching the ladies always working on their glutes. 😜.
I did go on escortbabylon and met a young 22 yr from Vegas for $. 6 hhr that had the softest skin, butt and nice Ds, but she freaked out when I started licking on her nipples. It was still a decent experience since she was so soft, but need more intimacy. One SB said she offers covered sex, kissing, but no BJ for $$$ for hour ppm. I'll keep looking for that bare CIP, blow my mind sex. Happy hunting bros no stay safe!I usually don't ask. Sometimes that freaks them out. I might make a comment about being clean and baby proof, but sometimes you just have to play it by ear. You also have to be willing to take risks. Without risk there is no chance to come out big. So you have to be willing to occasionally come up with just an okay experience or even a total miss.
So to keep everyone updated. I've made arrangements with 2 SB for bare fun, but they both wanted $300 for an hour and I'd have to find hotel. So we will see how it pans out. The first is a Latina that said she is thick and sent a pic, she has the body shape of a coke bottle and I stated that is a nice thick 😉. She is out of town and supposed to coordinate something next week.
I just finished a M&G with a half Filipina / Japanese 20 year old that is supposed to coordinate a FC session later this week. It is entertaining eating around other people in an outdoor setting and discussing plans for later with others in earshot. She said she prefers protection, but I said I prefer not to. She replied that she didn't like butt play so I said fine 👍 I tried to strike when the iron was hot, but she has a previous engagement to attend tonight. Hope it pans out and get to see what is under that dress. All my M&G have had the ladies wearing shirts that show their cleavage which is nice distraction.
I've done the shotgun approach to setup M&G and having a hard time following up with the SB as they all want their COVID stimulus check. They are not good with communication as I get responses a couple hours to a couple days later. I get busy and forget to follow up which results in them blocking me. It has turned into a job, but I shouldn't have to chase TnA if I'm providing the funding. A really hot viet lady wanted $400 and wouldn't give specifics on what would go down, but stuck to my guns of $300 and then she blocked me. She probably wouldn't do bare, but seems activity is picking up since the holidays are coming fast and furious. I may have to juggle a few and toss the ones that don't blow my socks off.
I've learned not to pay for gas money or half their Uber ride as the VA forums are very educational and entertaining. It seems most want to sell their photos, vids, and outfits for the M&G to which I respond that money will not be exchanged until an arrangement has been made and I'm satisfied. SA seems to be a risky venture, but definitely is panning out meeting ladies half your age. Hope to seal the deal in the near future. Happy hunting and stay safe!
PussyPumper
11-25-20, 02:26
.... but they both wanted $300 for an hour and I'd have to find hotel. So we will see how it pans out.Did you specify an hour, or they did?
If they did, then they are not SBs but pros. SBs don't quote by the hour.
Did you specify an hour, or they did?
If they did, then they are not SBs but pros. SBs don't quote by the hour.They quoted 30 min. , but I said hour. It seems like they are using google like us to figure out their rates. Found https://sugardaddyy.com/guide/sugar-baby-allowance.
I'll see how things go and if they are not worth the $ then keep moving to next one.
PussyPumper
11-25-20, 03:03
They quoted 30 min. , but I said hour. It seems like they are using google like us to figure out their rates. Found https://sugardaddyy.com/guide/sugar-baby-allowance.
I'll see how things go and if they are not worth the $ then keep moving to next one.Your whole approach is that of picking up an escort type woman, and that is what you are getting.
Your whole approach is that of picking up an escort type woman, and that is what you are getting.Yeah, guess I need to work on my approach. I've had some try to say they would snuggle or talk my ear off, but I want to clearly outline what is going to happen for how much makes it worth their time. One day I will find the unicorn that will accept $300 for an overnight with bare action. I'll see after the first meet to see if it is worth the $. Monthly fun budget is $2 k, so got to stretch it out for maximum ROI. 🤔 $2k overseas takes you further with abundance of hotties. 😋
Yeah, guess I need to work on my approach. I've had some try to say they would snuggle or talk my ear off, but I want to clearly outline what is going to happen for how much makes it worth their time. One day I will find the unicorn that will accept $300 for an overnight with bare action. I'll see after the first meet to see if it is worth the $. Monthly fun budget is $2 k, so got to stretch it out for maximum ROI. 🤔 $2k overseas takes you further with abundance of hotties. 😋For reference, I've never once done a meet and greet and have closed dozens. And it would be more if I didn't live in far north county. Girls act like north county might as well be Seattle. All of whom I CIP. I've found the best way to ask is if they're on birth control. Lots of information from that simple question. And you'd be surprised how many of them insist on condoms and then change their minds once you're inside them. I have several that don't expect any allowance at all.
By the way, there seems to be an influx of fake accounts all with the same profile naming convention. Usually a name followed by four numbers. So holly1234 for example. They also tend to only have exactly one sentence written in their "about me section" and it is appropriately vague.
TheCounselor
11-25-20, 15:22
https://www.seeking.com/member/b62293b7-41dd-4ff9-81c7-99acf22ad61c
This one was a lot cuter in person. $300 and CIP.
PussyPumper
11-25-20, 17:52
I got an email this morning saying there is a Holiday discount of 33% off membership, until Monday.
However, when I go to the Upgrade page, the discount does not show. It always showed automatically with previous offers. Using the link in the offer email similarly fails to bring up the discount.
Anyone else having this issue?
For reference, I've never once done a meet and greet and have closed dozens. And it would be more if I didn't live in far north county. Girls act like north county might as well be Seattle. All of whom I CIP. I've found the best way to ask is if they're on birth control. Lots of information from that simple question. And you'd be surprised how many of them insist on condoms and then change their minds once you're inside them. I have several that don't expect any allowance at all.
By the way, there seems to be an influx of fake accounts all with the same profile naming convention. Usually a name followed by four numbers. So holly1234 for example. They also tend to only have exactly one sentence written in their "about me section" and it is appropriately vague.Yeah I'll have to try and get them to the FC and then test it out. I hate having to pull out. So the ladies don't expect payment / allowance? You just entertain them through wining, dining, and activities? The reason for trying out SA is trying to find ladies with lower mileage and reduce the likelihood of catching something, but nothing some pills and shots won’t fix. Thailand and Dubai were some wild times and would love to find a bi couple. One could be riding me while the other is riding my face 😊 I will probably have to try those Mexican threesomes if this SA deal doesn’t pan out. I got the 3 month one pay membership and probably won’t renew. Hope to find that reliable GFE soon.
For reference, I've never once done a meet and greet and have closed dozens. And it would be more if I didn't live in far north county. Girls act like north county might as well be Seattle. All of whom I CIP. I've found the best way to ask is if they're on birth control. Lots of information from that simple question. And you'd be surprised how many of them insist on condoms and then change their minds once you're inside them. I have several that don't expect any allowance at all.
By the way, there seems to be an influx of fake accounts all with the same profile naming convention. Usually a name followed by four numbers. So holly1234 for example. They also tend to only have exactly one sentence written in their "about me section" and it is appropriately vague.Would love to see the quality of SB's you are pulling without a meet and greet! 100% of the 18-23 year old's I meet insist on a meet and greet and whenever I suggest simply meeting at the FC or starting the arrangement right away I am either ghosted or blocked! So really really curious about your "I've never done a meet and greet". I'm guessing you are working the heavy mileage, older, pro / semi-pro angle. ?
FarFarAway
11-26-20, 10:44
Would love to see the quality of SB's you are pulling without a meet and greet! 100% of the 18-23 year old's I meet insist on a meet and greet and whenever I suggest simply meeting at the FC or starting the arrangement right away I am either ghosted or blocked! So really really curious about your "I've never done a meet and greet". I'm guessing you are working the heavy mileage, older, pro / semi-pro angle. ?The guy who runs and posts huge amounts on the LA sugar thread, Hollywood Guy, does it this way. It's not for everyone, he is single and can host. He has a standard approach to girls, that he provides 100 sugar for a date, and that he only expects at their initial meeting some kissing and a handy. He likes young AA spinners exclusively, naive newbies. Of course, once he gets them in his crib, they have a tendency to go further (FC). He doesn't worry about whether he fulfilled his promises to them, because most of them he sees only once. I don't think most SDs have the ability to work this way. I have a SO and would *never* have a SB at my home. I am all about discretion, concerned about a professional rep, etc.
Everybody has their own approach, strength and weaknesses, I guess, but if I had the nuts to get young girls free this way, IDK, I'd not be on SA I think. Maybe he looks like George Clooney. Well, if so, there's no way to translate that to anyone else. Some stuff you read here is BS. When I first got into the bowl, I thought this was only a brag sheet, but there is a lot of support and information transfer her too. Just not usually from newbies. And really, IDK any of you personally, so why would I care if you fucked Jennifer Aniston or whatever?
Does trying to sneak a phone number or email into your profile on SA automatically result in a ban?
PussyPumper
11-27-20, 02:44
I got an email this morning saying there is a Holiday discount of 33% off membership, until Monday.
However, when I go to the Upgrade page, the discount does not show. It always showed automatically with previous offers. Using the link in the offer email similarly fails to bring up the discount.
Anyone else having this issue?SA seem to be such a bunch of incompetents. The email I got yesterday offering a 33% discount simply did not work. Got another today, which did. Go figure.
But another issue has come up. Says CC has to be able to accept international transaction. All the anonymous prepaid cards that I know of are US domestic only. Any solutions? I saw references somewhere (Richmond board) to paying with Bitcoin, but I see no option for that.
Will probably also ask on Richmond board.
FarFarAway
11-27-20, 11:45
SA seem to be such a bunch of incompetents. The email I got yesterday offering a 33% discount simply did not work. Got another today, which did. Go figure.
But another issue has come up. Says CC has to be able to accept international transaction. All the anonymous prepaid cards that I know of are US domestic only. Any solutions? I saw references somewhere (Richmond board) to paying with Bitcoin, but I see no option for that.
Will probably also ask on Richmond board.I have seen that statement about a card doing international transactions before. Yet, the OneVanilla cards worked back then. If it doesn't, you can email SA customer service, give them the card #, and they can run it for you even if it isn't approved for international. At least, that happened a while back.
Would love to see the quality of SB's you are pulling without a meet and greet! 100% of the 18-23 year old's I meet insist on a meet and greet and whenever I suggest simply meeting at the FC or starting the arrangement right away I am either ghosted or blocked! So really really curious about your "I've never done a meet and greet". I'm guessing you are working the heavy mileage, older, pro / semi-pro angle.I rarely do a meet and greet. If I do it's a bar around the corner from my place. I'll never pay to meet them, just tell them I'll buy a couple drinks and see where it takes us. Usually I just get there number, start texting them, and after a week or so it's a done deal. I have met dozens and dozens of girls 19-24 years old that will come over to hang out and end up sleeping with them. Most of the time is CIP but not always.
I always get asked why I'm on there because I'm in my early 30's and in great shape. I tell them it's easier and less hassle than tinder or the other typical dating sites. I don't know others living situations or physical appearance but when you aren't loaded or have limited funds you can still pull plenty of beautiful young ladies off there. You need to know how to talk to them and be personable.
The girl I currently see now is off there. I see her weekly, a 22 year old student at one of the schools here. I have never given here a dime, she actually bought me stuff for my bday. It takes a little time to get your approach right and all that but put in that effort and the rewards are endless.
Stay safe.
Does trying to sneak a phone number or email into your profile on SA automatically result in a ban?I have put my fake mail and burner ph# before so far so good! But so far "Smart" chicks could not read thru lines.
SA seem to be such a bunch of incompetents. The email I got yesterday offering a 33% discount simply did not work. Got another today, which did. Go figure.
But another issue has come up. Says CC has to be able to accept international transaction. All the anonymous prepaid cards that I know of are US domestic only. Any solutions? I saw references somewhere (Richmond board) to paying with Bitcoin, but I see no option for that.
Will probably also ask on Richmond board.Vanilla Prepaid Card is your friend.
I have been using it for yrs, without any issue. (It also has been mentioned here so many times.).
PussyPumper
11-27-20, 16:33
Vanilla Prepaid Card is your friend.
I have been using it for yrs, without any issue. (It also has been mentioned here so many times.).Last two times I tried (two separate cards), it failed. SA have changed their CC processor several times over the years. Right now, SA site says that any credit card must allow international transactions. Vanilla Card does not allow that.
And what of Bitcoin?
FarFarAway
11-27-20, 16:44
Vanilla Prepaid Card is your friend.
I have been using it for yrs, without any issue. (It also has been mentioned here so many times.).Just to be clear, it is OneVanilla Prepaid Debit card. There are also Vanilla gift cards available, IDK if those always work. And it's been like 6 months since I got a membership, what they do and don't take could change.
I rarely do a meet and greet. If I do it's a bar around the corner from my place. I'll never pay to meet them, just tell them I'll buy a couple drinks and see where it takes us. Usually I just get there number, start texting them, and after a week or so it's a done deal. I have met dozens and dozens of girls 19-24 years old that will come over to hang out and end up sleeping with them. Most of the time is CIP but not always.
I always get asked why I'm on there because I'm in my early 30's and in great shape. I tell them it's easier and less hassle than tinder or the other typical dating sites. I don't know others living situations or physical appearance but when you aren't loaded or have limited funds you can still pull plenty of beautiful young ladies off there. You need to know how to talk to them and be personable.
The girl I currently see now is off there. I see her weekly, a 22 year old student at one of the schools here. I have never given here a dime, she actually bought me stuff for my bday. It takes a little time to get your approach right and all that but put in that effort and the rewards are endless.
Stay safe.Could not have said it better.
PussyPumper
11-27-20, 20:38
....
I always get asked why I'm on there because I'm in my early 30's and in great shape. I tell them it's easier and less hassle than tinder or the other typical dating sites. I don't know others living situations or physical appearance but when you aren't loaded or have limited funds you can still pull plenty of beautiful young ladies off there. You need to know how to talk to them and be personable.
SA was invented 30 years too late for me to be able to do that. I am the wrong side of LX, and even though I am in reasonable shape (at least pre-Covid), and also OK looking, it is clear that none of the many 18-26 yo women I have dated from SA would have any interest in me absent the fact that I bring their friend Benjamin along for the ride.
PussyPumper
11-27-20, 21:37
Just to be clear, it is OneVanilla Prepaid Debit card. There are also Vanilla gift cards available, IDK if those always work. And it's been like 6 months since I got a membership, what they do and don't take could change.One of the two cards was OneVanilla - what I used regularly over the years. When that was denied, I tried Vanilla gift. Also denied.
I am worried that they have changed CC processor again.
FarFarAway
11-28-20, 09:49
One of the two cards was OneVanilla - what I used regularly over the years. When that was denied, I tried Vanilla gift. Also denied.
I am worried that they have changed CC processor again.Dang! There's no doubt this is a pain. There are several other sites out there I made profiles on but was never able to get a means to pay them.
As I said, one thing you can do is contact SA customer service and try to get them to run the debit card. That has worked way back. Also, MasterCard is a way more popular card than Visa outside the US, you might find (like that Canadian website I posted earlier) that if you can somehow find a MasterCard. Based prepaid, it will work. Also, quite some time ago, on the payment page, there was a little box you had to check if you were using a US prepaid card. As I said, I haven't had a profile in a while, IDK if that is still on the site.
I have this problem to pay for my email ISP, which is in Vancouver. They were the one who referred me to MasterCard. I need that (very discreet) email address, both of my profiles on SA are with email aliases I made through HushMail.
One of the two cards was OneVanilla - what I used regularly over the years. When that was denied, I tried Vanilla gift. Also denied.
I am worried that they have changed CC processor again.I have always used the vanilla gift card. It's the one where you choose the denomination and I just put $90 on it. When I use it on the site I enter a fake name with the address and zip code of the CVS that I buy it from. At first I had an issue doing that. Then doing some digging I read that other people had trouble because of the zip code. One of the ways to fix it was registering it. So instead I just used the zip code from where it was purchased and never had trouble. Try that and see if it helps.
PussyPumper
11-28-20, 21:07
As I said, one thing you can do is contact SA customer service and try to get them to run the debit card. That has worked way back.SA did offer that. But calling them would mean using an actual phone number associated with a previously banned profile, so that would not work! .
I had a very humorous profile for recruits for a fantasy "ladies finishing school". SA said I was "engaged in commercial activities" and perma-banned that profile. What idiots!
PussyPumper
11-28-20, 21:11
I have always used the vanilla gift card. It's the one where you choose the denomination and I just put $90 on it. When I use it on the site I enter a fake name with the address and zip code of the CVS that I buy it from. At first I had an issue doing that. Then doing some digging I read that other people had trouble because of the zip code. One of the ways to fix it was registering it. So instead I just used the zip code from where it was purchased and never had trouble. Try that and see if it helps.I remember registering OneVanilla and gift cards in the past. As you say, the key thing was to have a zip code associated with the card. That used to work just fine. But my most recent cards did not offer a registration option. You are now supposed to be able to use whatever address you care to enter. These recent non-registered cards are the ones that failed.
I remember registering OneVanilla and gift cards in the past. As you say, the key thing was to have a zip code associated with the card. That used to work just fine. But my most recent cards did not offer a registration option. You are now supposed to be able to use whatever address you care to enter. These recent non-registered cards are the ones that failed.Does anybody know what type of prepaid card will work with the Secret Benefits site??
FarFarAway
11-30-20, 14:34
SA did offer that. But calling them would mean using an actual phone number associated with a previously banned profile, so that would not work! .I had a very humorous profile for recruits for a fantasy "ladies finishing school". SA said I was "engaged in commercial activities" and perma-banned that profile. What idiots!Nope, contact SA customer service via email. Don't use a phone # - and of course, if you want, you can manufacture a new phone # on GoogleVoice.
FarFarAway
11-30-20, 14:36
I remember registering OneVanilla and gift cards in the past. As you say, the key thing was to have a zip code associated with the card. That used to work just fine. But my most recent cards did not offer a registration option. You are now supposed to be able to use whatever address you care to enter. These recent non-registered cards are the ones that failed.I got the newer version of the OneVanilla to work in the past 6 months, the one without the ability to put in a zip code. Of course, that may not be so today.
I rarely do a meet and greet. If I do it's a bar around the corner from my place. I'll never pay to meet them, just tell them I'll buy a couple drinks and see where it takes us. Usually I just get there number, start texting them, and after a week or so it's a done deal. I have met dozens and dozens of girls 19-24 years old that will come over to hang out and end up sleeping with them. Most of the time is CIP but not always.
I always get asked why I'm on there because I'm in my early 30's and in great shape. I tell them it's easier and less hassle than tinder or the other typical dating sites. I don't know others living situations or physical appearance but when you aren't loaded or have limited funds you can still pull plenty of beautiful young ladies off there. You need to know how to talk to them and be personable.
The girl I currently see now is off there. I see her weekly, a 22 year old student at one of the schools here. I have never given here a dime, she actually bought me stuff for my bday. It takes a little time to get your approach right and all that but put in that effort and the rewards are endless.
Stay safe.100% on this approach. I'm in my early 30's and busy with my career. Majority of the ladies I target on SA are 18-24. Meet at a bar down the street from my house, for coffee if they're under 21 or at my place for a meet / greet. Never pay to meet them. Being personable, normal, able to carry a convo, crack a few jokes to get them laughing / relaxed and being somewhat fit helps. More effort upfront but getting freebies or under $200 for a multiple hour fuck session is well worth it.
Highlight SB from earlier this year. Latina college cheerleader. Nice natural tits, thick ass. Met at the local bar before the pandemic, feel each other out, couple drinks and casually ask if she wanted to get out of there. BBBJ and Covered sex on our first get together. Agreed on $200 and to meet again. Eventually evolved to her coming over to have a few drinks, uncovered everything including anal and finishing in her ass. After a few more dates she didn't want cash anymore and enjoyed just hanging out. Okay by me. Made quarantine more enjoyable. After 6 months she got back with her college BF. Unicorns do exist just have to put in a little work.
FingerLicking
12-01-20, 20:42
100% on this approach. I'm in my early 30's and busy with my career. Majority of the ladies I target on SA are 18-24. Meet at a bar down the street from my house, for coffee if they're under 21 or at my place for a meet / greet. Never pay to meet them. Being personable, normal, able to carry a convo, crack a few jokes to get them laughing / relaxed and being somewhat fit helps. More effort upfront but getting freebies or under $200 for a multiple hour fuck session is well worth it.
Highlight SB from earlier this year. Latina college cheerleader. Nice natural tits, thick ass. Met at the local bar before the pandemic, feel each other out, couple drinks and casually ask if she wanted to get out of there. BBBJ and Covered sex on our first get together. Agreed on $200 and to meet again. Eventually evolved to her coming over to have a few drinks, uncovered everything including anal and finishing in her ass. After a few more dates she didn't want cash anymore and enjoyed just hanging out. Okay by me. Made quarantine more enjoyable. After 6 months she got back with her college BF. Unicorns do exist just have to put in a little work.Are you comfortable bringing them over to your place? I thought that was a no no.
Are you comfortable bringing them over to your place? I thought that was a no no.Agreed, seems safer to meet in public first, then bring them over if they pass the test.
Agreed, seems safer to meet in public first, then bring them over if they pass the test.I'll bring them straight there if they're willing. There are plenty who will come to a strangers place and let him cip for free. A lot more than than you'd think haha. I'll just put my computer and wallet away so they can't really take anything of value. I've never had a problem.
100% on this approach. I'm in my early 30's and busy with my career. Majority of the ladies I target on SA are 18-24. Meet at a bar down the street from my house, for coffee if they're under 21 or at my place for a meet / greet. Never pay to meet them. Being personable, normal, able to carry a convo, crack a few jokes to get them laughing / relaxed and being somewhat fit helps. More effort upfront but getting freebies or under $200 for a multiple hour fuck session is well worth it.
Highlight SB from earlier this year. Latina college cheerleader. Nice natural tits, thick ass. Met at the local bar before the pandemic, feel each other out, couple drinks and casually ask if she wanted to get out of there. BBBJ and Covered sex on our first get together. Agreed on $200 and to meet again. Eventually evolved to her coming over to have a few drinks, uncovered everything including anal and finishing in her ass. After a few more dates she didn't want cash anymore and enjoyed just hanging out. Okay by me. Made quarantine more enjoyable. After 6 months she got back with her college BF. Unicorns do exist just have to put in a little work.There are winners out there. My approach is to treat the m&g like a date. Charm their panties off and these Gen Z they will agree on anything. I have had a dozen or so in the past year pre COVID. I'm now down from 3 to two during COVID. 19 and 22. Both could be models and I like them ink free. The 3rd I had to let go because she caught feelings. LOL. My 2 don't ask for much. Cheaper than a GF without drama.
Agreed, seems safer to meet in public first, then bring them over if they pass the test.Depends on your own risk tolerance. I'm single and have my own place. I'll only meet girls with the clear understanding that it's a no cash M&G which seems to weed out pros, semi-pros, PPM girls or those who want me to pay them watch them eat.
https://www.seeking.com/member/7a06dbd6-0f51-4f30-8383-350e26ba9620
$200 to have lunch.
I guess someone has been paying to watch her eat, the lunch that YOU pay for as well.
AverageChump
12-02-20, 20:30
She does porn if that helps: https://www.pornhub.com/pornstar/christy-love.
I'm guessing the porn star rates make more sense.Hey Blue Gecko tried to PM you back But your box is full.
PussyPumper
12-03-20, 01:43
Hey Blue Gecko tried to PM you back But your box is full.I had several dates with her around the time she transitioned from cam girl to porn star. I know at least one other member here also dated her, so she is for real!
She was cool and great fun - I just loved her looks, slim-trim body, and tiny tits. I stopped seeing her, though, as she always "forgot" that she had agreed, in writing, to a lower SA rate, compared to what she originally requested (and was obviously getting from others). She also went very "extreme", even by porn standards. Funnily, I have run into her socially a few times since.
I had several dates with her around the time she transitioned from cam girl to porn star. I know at least one other member here also dated her, so she is for real!
She was cool and great fun - I just loved her looks, slim-trim body, and tiny tits. I stopped seeing her, though, as she always "forgot" that she had agreed, in writing, to a lower SA rate, compared to what she originally requested (and was obviously getting from others). She also went very "extreme", even by porn standards. Funnily, I have run into her socially a few times since.So cool that you dated a porn actress and also socially bump into them! Goals! I only fucked Eliza Eves. She's new to porn but fucked her before she was in porn. Actually helped her out medically for her audition. LOL.
PussyPumper
12-07-20, 02:44
I was thinking of signing up again (or trying to), just to keep my game in shape, but this new lockdown has sort of ended any pretense that I will be coming out to play anytime soon. Even without the lockdown, the virus numbers are frightening. Just 5% ICU beds left available at UCSD medical center! So I am glad I saved a few bucks. In any case, the video / picture girls are soooo annoying.
Pretty sure that this girl has an SA profile (with same photos), so should be a sure thing, for those who like to fish in barrels!
https://sandiego.rubratings.com/204774
However, several RR ads all have the same wording
"Come be my king tonight" - which makes me suspicious?
PussyPumper
12-07-20, 23:55
Pretty sure that this girl has an SA profile (with same photos), so should be a sure thing, for those who like to fish in barrels!
https://sandiego.rubratings.com/204774
However, several RR ads all have the same wording
"Come be my king tonight" - which makes me suspicious?Here is another SA girl with an RR profile.
https://sandiego.rubratings.com/151099
And I think I may have seen yet another as well!
My Spidey sense is tingling! Some sort of scam afoot?
Rocketron1006
12-08-20, 00:26
Here is another SA girl with an RR profile.
https://sandiego.rubratings.com/151099
And I think I may have seen yet another as well!
My Spidey sense is tingling! Some sort of scam afoot?Could be--tho not sure why such a gifted lass would not turn tricks *and* have regular, reliable, repeat guys lavishing them with bucks-for-fun-and-dinner. Filling the dance card as it were.
OTOH, the stilted English in the RR posting might be a sign of a scam. Or of a lousy public education system. Quite a looker in any case.
PussyPumper
12-08-20, 02:33
Why not both?
OTOH, the stilted English in the RR posting might be a sign of a scam. Or of a lousy public education system. Quite a looker in any case.Well, let me list the ways!
- Highly unusual for a "real" SB to also make an offer on RR. Very different markets and experiences.
- SBs can't normally host, but now these girls have somewhere for a massage?
- Unusually attractive (why I remember the photos).
- Dodgy English in spots, and similar language.
All adds up to a bad feeling!
Rocketron1006
12-08-20, 07:28
Well, let me list the ways!
- Highly unusual for a "real" SB to also make an offer on RR. Very different markets and experiences.
- SBs can't normally host, but now these girls have somewhere for a massage?
- Unusually attractive (why I remember the photos).
- Dodgy English in spots, and similar language.
All adds up to a bad feeling!Points taken, and I admit I was being a bit glib.
Just got a membership w / Vanilla, it's working fine.
I have said many times, do NOT use the "reloadable" card. You have to use the 1 time only card Vanilla Gift Pre Paid Card. It has been a good reliable payment method for SA for the past 2 years.
PussyPumper
12-12-20, 19:57
Just got a membership w / Vanilla, it's working fine.
I have said many times, do NOT use the "reloadable" card. You have to use the 1 time only card Vanilla Gift Pre Paid Card. It has been a good reliable payment method for SA for the past 2 years.Well, that is good news. I was worried when my Vanilla gift card failed a few months back.
JWalker350
12-13-20, 17:46
Just got a membership w / Vanilla, it's working fine.
I have said many times, do NOT use the "reloadable" card. You have to use the 1 time only card Vanilla Gift Pre Paid Card. It has been a good reliable payment method for SA for the past 2 years.Vanilla Visa / Mastercard has been working fine for me last 2+ years. After 10/2020 there is no option to activate with the zip code but it is still working.
What's up fellas. I'm based in LA, but question. Have any of you considered or had a SB from TJ?
PussyPumper
12-23-20, 03:09
Not content with their golden eggs, SA wants to kill the goose. Price increase announced for 1/1/2021.
Way to go Bandon! You may convince me to stop funding you.
OcasianBoy
12-23-20, 12:50
Not content with their golden eggs, SA wants to kill the goose. Price increase announced for 1/1/2021.
Way to go Bandon! You may convince me to stop funding you.The site is full of scammers and girls that just want to talk / text for an allowance right now. They want to increase the price? I probably won't renew.
HelloYouAre
12-29-20, 14:30
What's up fellas. I'm based in LA, but question. Have any of you considered or had a SB from TJ?I've been thinking of finally meeting one up over there, but the excitement hasn't been more than the calculated risk for me. I heard Musas agency is a great way to meet young hotties, but I'd like to meet up with a non pro. Let me know if you have any luck.
I've used tik tok as a source of information on why so many women are looking to get paid and waste your time. Instead of actual sugar dating. Just look at some hashtags # and see the baby's perspective.
FarFarAway
12-31-20, 19:59
I've used tik tok as a source of information on why so many women are looking to get paid and waste your time. Instead of actual sugar dating. Just look at some hashtags # and see the baby's perspective.Huh? Can you explain?
MikeHammyHam
01-05-21, 08:29
https://www.seeking.com/member/5e9c1b87-babb-4449-926f-a5534c71dd8b
Anyone seen her or had an experience with her? Any info would be greatly appreciated. Don't want to waste my time and $. Thanks in adVance.
PussyPumper
01-05-21, 18:55
https://www.seeking.com/member/5e9c1b87-babb-4449-926f-a5534c71dd8b
Anyone seen her or had an experience with her? Any info would be greatly appreciated. Don't want to waste my time and $. Thanks in adVance.Background looks like southern California, not Russia, or Columbia.
Not much business for exotic dancers right now, so makes sense that she would look for a daddy.
FarFarAway
01-05-21, 19:59
Background looks like southern California, not Russia, or Columbia.
Not much business for exotic dancers right now, so makes sense that she would look for a daddy.Haven't looked at the profile, I'd just caution you about strippers on SA. Many have had the experience that they are 1) trying to recruit patrons to their clubs or 2) deluded about the sort of $ available, distorted by horny patrons they usually see. IDK anything 'about this particular one, but I'd fear GPS.
PussyPumper
01-06-21, 00:06
Haven't looked at the profile, I'd just caution you about strippers on SA. Many have had the experience that they are 1) trying to recruit patrons to their clubs or 2) deluded about the sort of $ available, distorted by horny patrons they usually see. IDK anything 'about this particular one, but I'd fear GPS.From her profile and photos it is almost certain that she has caught GPS. That is not what I was addressing though, I was answering the OP's question as to whether she is "for real". My vote is that she is for real. But expensive.
MikeHammyHam
01-07-21, 13:18
https://www.seeking.com/member/5e9c1b87-babb-4449-926f-a5534c71dd8b
Anyone seen her or had an experience with her? Any info would be greatly appreciated. Don't want to waste my time and $. Thanks in adVance.Thanks for those that responded and continue to share valuable information on this platform. However, there are the white knights that apparently use this to report back to ladies for their own 'benefits'. I was close to scheduling a meetup but that got canceled because someone from this forum told her about my about my post etc. I guess we all have our motives.
FingerLicking
01-07-21, 16:32
Thanks for those that responded and continue to share valuable information on this platform. However, there are the white knights that apparently use this to report back to ladies for their own 'benefits'. I was close to scheduling a meetup but that got canceled because someone from this forum told her about my about my post etc. I guess we all have our motives.Very not cool.
Thanks for those that responded and continue to share valuable information on this platform. However, there are the white knights that apparently use this to report back to ladies for their own 'benefits'. I was close to scheduling a meetup but that got canceled because someone from this forum told her about my about my post etc. I guess we all have our motives.Sadly, that is why you don't share the good ones. I'll out the scammers and provide info on ones I've passed on.
MikeHammyHam
01-07-21, 21:34
Sadly, that is why you don't share the good ones. I'll out the scammers and provide info on ones I've passed on.I hear you man. I was merely asking for information.
MikeHammyHam
01-07-21, 21:41
Sadly, that is why you don't share the good ones. I'll out the scammers and provide info on ones I've passed on.I hear you man. I was merely asking for information.
I've used tik tok as a source of information on why so many women are looking to get paid and waste your time. Instead of actual sugar dating. Just look at some hashtags # and see the baby's perspective.That's different. I can feel the real sugar babies physically but the tik tok babies cannot.
PussyPumper
01-11-21, 01:38
Joined on New Year's Eve.
https://www.seeking.com/member/6d64e11d-b378-4ee0-91b3-46d0508d5467
Mature former porn star. I think she is also on one or both of the Rub site, or PD at present. Well known on the former local site.
Interesting to finally see what she looks like - face was censored on previous/other sites.
TheCounselor
01-14-21, 00:50
Anyone have the Diamond Membership on SA? Is it worth it? I can't imagine any SB cares but thought I would ask.
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