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This cute 1 wants $$ for just lunch / coffee, https://www.seeking.com/member/db868603-cf2e-49f6-bc6c-ab9d3c06d728
I think it was because some of the guys showered out money just to get attention. Now we have a group of them just do that instead.
We will just have to learn & adapt, filter out the PMGs.
DanteHaversham
12-22-19, 16:37
Recently I get many responses from significant numbers of SBs said they are only looking for platonic relationships, or just have conversations, dinners, drinks together and expect to receive allowances. What are those girls are thinking? I could not figure it out. Even one girl told me (username: Tallcurvyathelic) she just want one way benefit (only her). When did our society become socialist? I thought it happened in my dream but during day time.
The "SD's" who don't know how to say no are fucking this shit up for everybody. These chicks are hookers, they aren't SB's.
It's not socialism, it's pure capitalism, they are charging the maximum the market will pay for the minimum of effort for a non marginal product. As a free market guy your responsibility is to say no.
A2It seems to me that if a guy wants to pay to look at pretty girl, eat and she is able to demand a high price, that is the essence of capitalism. You may not be happy about it because it drives the price up for you, but if the market allows it so be it.
Me, I personally do not promise a "gift" on a meet and greet. Have I given one after? Yes I have it depends on the circumstances. Will I generally take a potential to a nice place? Yes I treat it like a date. I have had a girl who told me she was frustrated with the site and was in it for the free food hang out with me several times, and at one point show up with an overnight bag. No allowance. As she said, sometimes it's not always about the money.
A little charm and a little spoiling go a lung way. I'm upfront with the girls, I tell them I may not need intimacy right away, but I will feel cheated if it's not on the table at some point. Most appreciate it and let me know if it's not an option. Some make me wait a little, however when it does happen there are usually benefits. I find there is no magic formula, every encounter is different. If the chemistry works for you embrace it, if not move on.
JWalker350
12-23-19, 02:22
It seems to me that if a guy wants to pay to look at pretty girl, eat and she is able to demand a high price, that is the essence of capitalism. You may not be happy about it because it drives the price up for you, but if the market allows it so be it.
Me, I personally do not promise a "gift" on a meet and greet. Have I given one after? Yes I have it depends on the circumstances. Will I generally take a potential to a nice place? Yes I treat it like a date. I have had a girl who told me she was frustrated with the site and was in it for the free food hang out with me several times, and at one point show up with an overnight bag. No allowance. As she said, sometimes it's not always about the money.
A little charm and a little spoiling go a lung way. I'm upfront with the girls, I tell them I may not need intimacy right away, but I will feel cheated if it's not on the table at some point. Most appreciate it and let me know if it's not an option. Some make me wait a little, however when it does happen there are usually benefits. I find there is no magic formula, every encounter is different. If the chemistry works for you embrace it, if not move on.I told number of girls the same as you, after a few dinners or lunch dates, they stopped answer my messages. Maybe they guess I will remind them about intimacy.
JWalker350
12-23-19, 02:31
I thought it is socialist since SBs want free allowances without earnings. I am a capitalist and I am working hard to earn it.
If they can get you to give them money for nothing then they have developed an incredible skill that the market is rewarding. Socialism would be if I gave them your money.
Capitalism doesn't necessarily reward the hardest worker, in fact it often doesn't. Capitalism rewards the smartest application of capital.
If you have been doing what you're doing for a long time and still working hard then perhaps you have holes in the organization you have built.
A2I kind of disagree with you about it. At first, you have to work hard to get the base but after a while, you have to work smart. I worked hard at my young age to build up capital needed for investment then worked smart to grow the investment.
DanteHaversham
12-23-19, 13:20
I told number of girls the same as you, after a few dinners or lunch dates, they stopped answer my messages. Maybe they guess I will remind them about intimacy.It's like an investment you have to gauge how much to put in against the potential reward. Sometimes it's a bust but you try to minimize those situations.
Profile says san ysidro but actually lives in TJ. Claims she can cross the border. Wants $100 just to have lunch and see if there's chemistry. No FC first date. Only one 2nd date. Sounds like a professional meet and greeter.
https://www.seeking.com/member/107b0a9d-b8d9-47c8-9f42-7bd91180f8dd
With all the platonic only nonsense that seems to be proliferating, there's the fakers.
Was looking around and get the "hey there" message this morning so I decide to play along and see what's up even though she's not my type. We start messaging and after asking her, she gives me the "guys on here are scams or aren't serious". We chat a little more and it appears we have an understanding about what a SD / SB relationship is. I suggest we meet and see if an arrangement is the next step. No response, haven't heard back, another FAKER.
https://www.seeking.com/member/7376a7e5-102b-4e6a-86e4-49c20889692d
Then there's this one. Had messaged her several days ago, she read my profile but nothing. This morning she gets back and asks how much if she makes me happy. Let her know I only discuss details in person or by text, not on the SA system. No response.
https://www.seeking.com/member/e0360fce-8d57-4c87-9112-b243f330d1c1
Happy Hunting and a great New Year.
Thought I had heard it all but proven wrong again!
https://www.seeking.com/member/3616dc29-f33f-42d9-a8af-80074acfc0ae
Just logged on to the site and she reaches out with this message "God bless your sperm on my mouth" Whoa, what do we have here? Her locator says France although she lists LA as her city. Check her out guys, probably just a bunch of crap-fishers.
Happy New Year.
Update: as predicted, a crap sandwich of online pics and vids. Asked her why would I pay for that when there is so much free stuff already onlne?
Here's the situation, both are asking for 500.
This one is looking for a platonic lunch:
https://www.seeking.com/member/da73c300-8952-4323-9925-86961afc5888
And this one is offering some private time:
https://www.seeking.com/member/ec96d59a-ca02-438f-a414-9d1cfb114fdd
Guess who I'm on a date with? LOL.
I was re-joined SA in Sept after retiring from the bowl for 3+ years.
Got only 1 Asian 19 yo (on the heavy side) to FC, and she started giving me "time constraint". So, dropped her.
Had about 6 M&G, and 2 of them were fuckable but they were asking 350+ and can't host. I respectfully declined. They both did come back to me, but the mood is long gone.
Got about 40 pots on text, but more than half want just online. 25% of them are okay with my budget (250 ppm) but they are mostly pro. The rest of them are asking 600+ (maybe por).
Sent tons of messages out and respond rate was roughly 20%.
In summary, way too many platonic or just online crap. With my limited budget (250/ ppm), it is very hard (Especially w / married folks. Like me) to score hot gal. Started going to see some K gals, and much easier and nice services. I am going back to retirement on the bowl. Good Luck to all of you folks!!
HollywoodGuy
01-07-20, 19:27
I was re-joined SA in Sept after retiring from the bowl for 3+ years.
Got only 1 Asian 19 yo (on the heavy side) to FC, and she started giving me "time constraint". So, dropped her.
Had about 6 M&G, and 2 of them were fuckable but they were asking 350+ and can't host. I respectfully declined. They both did come back to me, but the mood is long gone.
Got about 40 pots on text, but more than half want just online. 25% of them are okay with my budget (250 ppm) but they are mostly pro. The rest of them are asking 600+ (maybe por).
Sent tons of messages out and respond rate was roughly 20%.
In summary, way too many platonic or just online crap. With my limited budget (250/ ppm), it is very hard (Especially w / married folks. Like me) to score hot gal. Started going to see some K gals, and much easier and nice services. I am going back to retirement on the bowl. Good Luck to all of you folks!!Sorry bro. I am always mystified when I hear these things, but the married part may add an element to the planning of things that makes it too difficult? At $$ or more I just cant fathom anyone having a problem unless you only chase super models
Hey Master. How are you doing in Vegas?
I have pretty flexible schedule despite being married, but not having a 24/7 available FC is definitely a negative. I am definitely not chasing super model. Super models usually do not even reply to my messages. I think I am picky about girls type (pro vs. UTR vs. Non-pro) and I am only interested in non-pro. So, that reduces the pool a lot. With my "married" status, it further cuts down the pool.
Sorry bro. I am always mystified when I hear these things, but the married part may add an element to the planning of things that makes it too difficult? At $$ or more I just cant fathom anyone having a problem unless you only chase super models
Sorry bro! Any intel on who you had M&G so we can avoid them? Thanks.
I was re-joined SA in Sept after retiring from the bowl for 3+ years.
Got only 1 Asian 19 yo (on the heavy side) to FC, and she started giving me "time constraint". So, dropped her.
Had about 6 M&G, and 2 of them were fuckable but they were asking 350+ and can't host. I respectfully declined. They both did come back to me, but the mood is long gone.
Got about 40 pots on text, but more than half want just online. 25% of them are okay with my budget (250 ppm) but they are mostly pro. The rest of them are asking 600+ (maybe por).
Sent tons of messages out and respond rate was roughly 20%.
In summary, way too many platonic or just online crap. With my limited budget (250/ ppm), it is very hard (Especially w / married folks. Like me) to score hot gal. Started going to see some K gals, and much easier and nice services. I am going back to retirement on the bowl. Good Luck to all of you folks!!
She asks 600 PPM but was able to get her down to 350.
Any success with this girl? What does she ask? Has been on for over a year, some of you must have hit her up!
https://www.seeking.com/member/47711afc-6e55-4ac0-a603-084b83912994
Sorry. My account got "suspended" 2 days ago after my membership was expired for 3 weeks. Will see whether I can request them to reinstate it and check the listing in my account.
Sorry bro! Any intel on who you had M&G so we can avoid them? Thanks.
DanteHaversham
01-08-20, 02:36
https://www.seeking.com/member/9b5c9b30-3c8e-4a13-b230-89005782c8d8
This one said $350 and she was mine all night. Her only rule is $100 deposit. I was already suspicious because her profile says she's 20 and she's a bartender. I figure if I sent $100 I'd never see her.
Hard pass.
PussyPumper
01-09-20, 18:46
I was re-joined SA in Sept after retiring from the bowl for 3+ years.
Got only 1 Asian 19 yo (on the heavy side) to FC, and she started giving me "time constraint". So, dropped her.
Had about 6 M&G, and 2 of them were fuckable but they were asking 350+ and can't host. I respectfully declined. They both did come back to me, but the mood is long gone.
Got about 40 pots on text, but more than half want just online. 25% of them are okay with my budget (250 ppm) but they are mostly pro. The rest of them are asking 600+ (maybe por).
Sent tons of messages out and respond rate was roughly 20%.
In summary, way too many platonic or just online crap. With my limited budget (250/ ppm), it is very hard (Especially w / married folks. Like me) to score hot gal. Started going to see some K gals, and much easier and nice services. I am going back to retirement on the bowl. Good Luck to all of you folks!!Sorry to hear that things did not go to well in your latest session on SA.
Personally, I think that the quality of the women on SA keeps declining.
- Lots of looky-loos.
- Lots of platonic only.
- Lots of "pay to look at me eat" types.
- Lots of scammers.
- And lots of Golden Pussy sufferers. Encouraged in their expectations by SA, of course.
So, yes, a lot more difficult and frustrating than 3 years ago, when I started. But there are still some gems, just takes more work.
Newbie1961
01-09-20, 18:59
They normally leave it alone till you pay them. Then ban you a day or 2 after they get your money. Or it least it happen to me that way.
Sorry. My account got "suspended" 2 days ago after my membership was expired for 3 weeks. Will see whether I can request them to reinstate it and check the listing in my account.
There are a few viral videos on Tik Tok that tell these young women how to get money without giving sugar. Watch them on tiktok search for #sugarbabies. I see that as one factor why there is a jump on platonic and serial M&Gers.
Sorry to hear that things did not go to well in your latest session on SA.
Personally, I think that the quality of the women on SA keeps declining.
- Lots of looky-loos.
- Lots of platonic only.
- Lots of "pay to look at me eat" types.
- Lots of scammers.
- And lots of Golden Pussy sufferers. Encouraged in their expectations by SA, of course.
So, yes, a lot more difficult and frustrating than 3 years ago, when I started. But there are still some gems, just takes more work.
Recently joined SA. I seem to be running into "golden pussy sufferers". I'm not sure if I have the energy to keep digging till I find the gems but I'll continue.
Anticipating that my first meet should be next weekend, so fingers crossed.
Sorry to hear that things did not go to well in your latest session on SA.
Personally, I think that the quality of the women on SA keeps declining.
- Lots of looky-loos.
- Lots of platonic only.
- Lots of "pay to look at me eat" types.
- Lots of scammers.
- And lots of Golden Pussy sufferers. Encouraged in their expectations by SA, of course.
So, yes, a lot more difficult and frustrating than 3 years ago, when I started. But there are still some gems, just takes more work.
William Monroe
01-10-20, 21:54
Well I got lucky I guess. I did listen to advice here that the 30, and 40 year olds I was interested in were mostly gps. That, and lots are looking for a husband.
So not that many 20 somethings are intested in a mid 60's guy but patience paid off. This is the nicest thing I've ever had going. Just had an awesome trip with her. The big age difference is a plus really as neither of us gets too carried away. A real girlfriend, but within the context of an arrangement. Its awesome.
William.
SeaTownGuy
01-13-20, 23:21
Finding alot more "cashapp to prove your serious" fishing attempts. Recent one was using fake pics from an IG model from Rio. Called her out and got "oh yeah I remembered my bad" then sent me a photo of Whitney Wright, which I gave her the tweet it was stolen from. She didn't reply back.
Google image search.
Whenever I see those fake accounts, I always click on the report button.
If we all do it, we should be able to bring down the fakers, at least reduce the number of them.
Newbie1961
01-14-20, 17:46
I no longer report but here's the thing. Wade's site (s) needs maximum female members in a guys radius search. To keep us paying. The problem is if you have a vagina they will be back up and running with a new profile in 12 hours or less (except underage or full blown escort words) for free again. Sure you got a profile banned but they are back in business scamming again in less than a day. Also, you have now brought attention to your profile and are on their radar creating a service ticket. Anyone that has been banned and lost their money knows how that feels and hurts your wallet. May I suggest sharing a scammers / rinser links to their profile, as well a profile pic (s) here. Reporting and getting a profile removed will not change the scammers much. They will return with a new better profile. It's here to stay. Just share here and move on to find young fresh pussy that actually puts out for money.
Whenever I see those fake accounts, I always click on the report button.
If we all do it, we should be able to bring down the fakers, at least reduce the number of them.
This one reached out to me, gave me her number so I followed up to see what was going on. She now has her # posted in her headline. We text a bit, she tells me she only had 1 arrangement and it "flopped". I don't know if she has ADD but she brought this up 3 times. Set up a coffee date, then tells me she wants an advance fee for a hundy. Told her, officially, you now have flop #2.
https://www.seeking.com/member/6559abe4-1317-44e7-9c65-bc50e6932441
This one is downtown, texted and she is asking for 400. I countered 250, she said we may be able to work something out. Haven't heard back.
https://www.seeking.com/member/9706da9e-4f13-47e9-9e6a-92f0c3528214
Been messaging on and off, nothing consistent or getting anywhere. Probably a newbie in over her head or a tease.
https://www.seeking.com/member/44bb429f-d433-4d03-a983-fc6d299e6b19
Don't know what more to say other than are you sheeting me? Wants 250 for a dinner date, 600 FC.
https://www.seeking.com/member/14ed8242-355f-4214-a04f-cebbbaca2be6
This one wants to meet, haven't coordinated anything. She messages at 2 or 3 in the morning! Will see what kind of agreement we can come to.
https://www.seeking.com/member/db5ed72b-b03e-4706-a1cc-f2d263d7b5d3
This one reached out to me, gave me her number so I followed up to see what was going on. She now has her # posted in her headline. We text a bit, she tells me she only had 1 arrangement and it "flopped". I don't know if she has ADD but she brought this up 3 times. Set up a coffee date, then tells me she wants an advance fee for a hundy. Told her, officially, you now have flop #2.
https://www.seeking.com/member/6559abe4-1317-44e7-9c65-bc50e6932441
This one is downtown, texted and she is asking for 400. I countered 250, she said we may be able to work something out. Haven't heard back.
https://www.seeking.com/member/9706da9e-4f13-47e9-9e6a-92f0c3528214
Been messaging on and off, nothing consistent or getting anywhere. Probably a newbie in over her head or a tease.
https://www.seeking.com/member/44bb429f-d433-4d03-a983-fc6d299e6b19
Don't know what more to say other than are you sheeting me? Wants 250 for a dinner date, 600 FC.
https://www.seeking.com/member/14ed8242-355f-4214-a04f-cebbbaca2be6
This one wants to meet, haven't coordinated anything. She messages at 2 or 3 in the morning! Will see what kind of agreement we can come to.
https://www.seeking.com/member/db5ed72b-b03e-4706-a1cc-f2d263d7b5d3Got the update, the last one mentioned above, qmpz1997, is willing, all it takes is 350.
Here's a nice one, asking for 3.
https://www.seeking.com/member/14961278-fe2c-e342-9797-d9e20960872d
This one asking for 500.
https://www.seeking.com/member/3d99e60f-c20d-43ee-9a4c-71fecf6b520c
PussyPumper
01-20-20, 22:14
Here's a nice one, asking for 3.
https://www.seeking.com/member/14961278-fe2c-e342-9797-d9e20960872d
Interesting. I offered her 300 earlier in the week, after some discussion. She did not respond.
Previously, she asked me for 600.
Interesting. I offered her 300 earlier in the week, after some discussion. She did not respond.
Previously, she asked me for 600.We texted for a while, I held at 250, seemed like she might accept, but not yet. Will see what today brings.
PussyPumper
01-21-20, 12:34
Very expensive, model twins.
https://www.seeking.com/member/18d2d917-6538-42e6-8c20-a6ce679fb7f8
Unlike almost all other SA duos they are for real, and down for it.
Likely scam, starts messaging, sends pics, vids and wants to meet right away. Keeps asking when and where, then sends link to sign up at some other site. Took me about 5 minutes to realize this is a scam.
https://www.seeking.com/member/23db69e8-3358-4561-a3eb-cc6acba59fa9
PussyPumper
01-22-20, 23:02
Likely scam, starts messaging, sends pics, vids and wants to meet right away. Keeps asking when and where, then sends link to sign up at some other site. Took me about 5 minutes to realize this is a scam.
https://www.seeking.com/member/23db69e8-3358-4561-a3eb-cc6acba59fa9Here is one who told me my number was "fake" as soon as we started texting, and followed that up by saying I needed to be "verified".
https://www.seeking.com/member/9e27408f-bfe7-46d4-84d3-44edd3c47667
I just cut things off at that point. "Verification" is of course not just a scam, which it is, but also opens the possibility of blackmail.
PussyPumper
01-23-20, 00:30
Obviously a bit pro, but her huge tits are calling to me.
https://www.seeking.com/member/b20b6216-19c5-479f-bc70-10074d6a8633
PussyPumper
01-23-20, 14:10
Maya is tall and attractive, with nice boobs. But that is all the good I can say of her.
When we got together she was completely non-GFE, no BBJ (or CBJ), minimal interaction, with rushed finish. Not worth the allowance, not even close.
https://www.seeking.com/member/5461d591-e654-43cf-9851-1942b0860199
PussyPumper
01-26-20, 21:14
Just obtains info / photos before disappearing. Unusually suspicious.
Very expensive, model twins.
https://www.seeking.com/member/18d2d917-6538-42e6-8c20-a6ce679fb7f8
Unlike almost all other SA duos they are for real, and down for it.What damage am I looking at?
PussyPumper
01-27-20, 03:12
What damage am I looking at?Unfortunately I seem to have neglected to make a note. As far as I can recall, they mentioned usually getting 7 or 8 to 10 PPM. Unlike 99% of others who make such claims, I am inclined to believe them. Also, that was probably intended to be each. They are very beautiful, with great slim bodies. Identical.
DanteHaversham
02-01-20, 00:32
Talks a good game. Has you make reservations then says she can't go through with it.
https://www.seeking.com/member/f7ee8abd-3c66-44e9-88ae-651500e77cde
Talks a good game. Has you make reservations then says she can't go through with it.
https://www.seeking.com/member/f7ee8abd-3c66-44e9-88ae-651500e77cdeSA is nothing but time wasters, platonics, femdoms, and Russian internet scammers. If you want to get your dick wet tonight, use HX. If you want to suffer through blue balls for the next 6 weeks, use SA.
Agreed with that especially in San Diego area.
SA is nothing but time wasters, platonics, femdoms, and Russian internet scammers. If you want to get your dick wet tonight, use HX. If you want to suffer through blue balls for the next 6 weeks, use SA.
FarFarAway
02-01-20, 14:39
SA is nothing but time wasters, platonics, femdoms, and Russian internet scammers. If you want to get your dick wet tonight, use HX. If you want to suffer through blue balls for the next 6 weeks, use SA.And if you want to worry about STDs, pimps, etc. You get a higher cut of girls on SA, low mileage, and enthusiastic. If you've got at least some game.
And if you want to worry about STDs, pimps, etc. You get a higher cut of girls on SA, low mileage, and enthusiastic. If you've got at least some game.The only person on SA who will most likely fuck you is Brandon Wade, and not in a good way. That site is designed for one purpose only--to make him money. Hence all the fake female profiles making it look like there is a target rich 20:1 ratio. Hence the predetermined spike in fake interests when your subscription is about to expire. And if you think these girls are less likely to have STD's, then good luck to you.
PussyPumper
02-02-20, 03:08
SA is nothing but time wasters, platonics, femdoms, and Russian internet scammers. If you want to get your dick wet tonight, use HX. If you want to suffer through blue balls for the next 6 weeks, use SA.While there all too many of the these nasty types on SA, it is wrong to fixate on them. SA also has lots of great, attractive and very willing college co-eds and girl-next-door types. I have had the pleasure to getting intimate with over 30 women from SA. Of these, I would rate 13 as great or good, 8 as so-so, and 10 as poor (17 white, 4 Latina, 3 Asian, 3 Asian mix, 2 black, 1 ME, 1 American Indian). I had long term arrangements with several of the good ones, some of over a year. I usually have a rotation going, and can have one or more women per week, so my balls are rarely blue. Unlike HX, none of them has or had a nasty pimp lurking down the corridor. I would say 95+% of the women on HX are managed in one way or another.
Newbie1961
02-02-20, 08:56
Regarding STD's I probably would agree with you on that. Maybe. But if I had 2 identical girls side by side, 1 is seeing 3-10 random unknown men a day for sex and the other goes to college, works a part time job, drug free, has a BF and maybe see's 1-2 older men a week after she has vetted them as regular, safe and reliable, which would all of us pick? Any sexual activity carries a risk. It's a roll of the dice. Wade is not stupid. No one just handed him a degree from MIT. Your last 24 hours when your membership will expire they will boost your profile to the top. This creates additional interest to your profile and more messages. Clever way to get you to keep paying. I have used all the big sites. I want to say I have no vested interest either financially or personally to endorse one over the other, and if you read any of my posts I have been critical about all of them and their disadvantages. I am just a consumer but I find SA to have the least fem bots of any site. Eventually some of these others sites will be exposed and proven that they use fake profiles and bots to extract more money from you (just like what happened to Ashley Madison remember). We all choose our best path that works for us to get what we search for. They all have downsides. I waste a lot of time (more than I care to admit) filtering thru the time wasters, pic sellers, platonic only, online only, prepay scammers, rinsers etc. I spend less time worrying about getting robbed (or worse), getting ripped off, walking in to filthy smoke filled no tell rooms, dealing with drugged out worn out high volume machines that don't even resemble the pics in their ad, passing you in the hallway to go in as you are walking out for her 10th customer that day etc. Its just a matter of choice for all of us.
The only person on SA who will most likely fuck you is Brandon Wade, and not in a good way. That site is designed for one purpose only--to make him money. Hence all the fake female profiles making it look like there is a target rich 20:1 ratio. Hence the predetermined spike in fake interests when your subscription is about to expire. And if you think these girls are less likely to have STD's, then good luck to you.
Obviously a bit pro, but her huge tits are calling to me.
https://www.seeking.com/member/b20b6216-19c5-479f-bc70-10074d6a8633Same! Those things are gigantic. I haven't messaged her, but am strongly considering it.
Same! Those things are gigantic. I haven't messaged her, but am strongly considering it.Someone needs to TOFTT.
Talks a good game. Has you make reservations then says she can't go through with it.
https://www.seeking.com/member/f7ee8abd-3c66-44e9-88ae-651500e77cdeBrother, rookie mistake number 1. Never make reservations before meeting anyone in person. They are plenty of hotels that rent hotels by the hour as long you pay cash only. I recommend you should do your homework before next time.
DanteHaversham
02-13-20, 09:37
Brother, rookie mistake number 1. Never make reservations before meeting anyone in person. They are plenty of hotels that rent hotels by the hour as long you pay cash only. I recommend you should do your homework before next time.Reservations were for drinks / dinner not room.
JWalker350
02-13-20, 15:25
Brother, rookie mistake number 1. Never make reservations before meeting anyone in person. They are plenty of hotels that rent hotels by the hour as long you pay cash only. I recommend you should do your homework before next time.I could not find any hotels that rent by the hour with cash. They all ask for credit card payments. Can you pm me the list? Thanks.
Brother, rookie mistake number 1. Never make reservations before meeting anyone in person. They are plenty of hotels that rent hotels by the hour as long you pay cash only. I recommend you should do your homework before next time.Would you mind listing or PMing me a couple of these by the hour / cash hotels?
Brother, rookie mistake number 1. Never make reservations before meeting anyone in person. They are plenty of hotels that rent hotels by the hour as long you pay cash only. I recommend you should do your homework before next time.
I could not find any hotels that rent by the hour with cash. They all ask for credit card payments. Can you pm me the list? Thanks.Same here.
Also, even with credit card, do you just use websites? Which 1 do you recommend?
https://www.seeking.com/member/cb9dc7cc-6160-408b-847e-89c3b3cba0b9
Anyone have any experience? 2nd pm and she asked to take it to text. Pro?
Haven't been here for a while. Been texting with this one for a couple weeks. Says she's worth 400, I got her down to 300 right away but still haven't followed through. She's been contacting me a couple times a week to set up a date. Told her she will have to have a more competitive ppm compared to other SBs out there. Ghosted me. So if you guys are ok with 3, hit her up.
https://www.seeking.com/member/e3501962-25bd-40e2-b5c8-28671bbb28df
https://www.seeking.com/member/1c3ab2bc-c4f6-4118-9346-8775d5566214 This one hits me real quick with 800. I told her good luck, basically. That's a dumb ppm starting bid. I can't.
Am missing something? Has there been some kind of added value to an average SB that I wasn't made aware of? Seems like average expectations have gone bonkers recently.
So, I was searching this thread for any kind of discussion about average ppm expectations in San Diego. Either, I'm dumb and overlooked something, a possibility I always account for, or we're not discussing it the way they are on the Richmond VA thread - info I have to presume is not applicable to our market.
If you know of a conversation regarding this, please feel free to point me in the right direction.
Am missing something? Has there been some kind of added value to an average SB that I wasn't made aware of? Seems like average expectations have gone bonkers recently.
So, I was searching this thread for any kind of discussion about average ppm expectations in San Diego. Either, I'm dumb and overlooked something, a possibility I always account for, or we're not discussing it the way they are on the Richmond VA thread - info I have to presume is not applicable to our market.
If you know of a conversation regarding this, please feel free to point me in the right direction.My range has been $150-$250, obviously with better success on the higher end. But right now I've got one girl for no sugar, just the cost of dates so been busy with that.
My range has been $150-$250, obviously with better success on the higher end. But right now I've got one girl for no sugar, just the cost of dates so been busy with that.Similarly, the only success I've had recently is at the very top end of that range. I am fairly consistently facing expectations of at least double that. Success rates on negotiating down from there to something within the 150-250 range has been decent, but generally only so with SBs that I'm only partially interested in.
Gentleman.
Coming to SD for my once a yr meeting.
Anyone have a MILF SA lady that is interested in a ppm.
Or any utr.
Thanks.
https://www.seeking.com/member/d927e2b9-1ee0-48a3-a1bc-b3ba4e09fdd7 . Anyone recognize her? She straight told me she "used to escort" and that she received 1 K for overnights. I think she was trying to sell me on the idea that I'd get to stay over at her place. Not sure that's in the cards. Anyways, she, without prompt, came down to a third of that per date. Anyone recognize her as a pro?
Same here.
Also, even with credit card, do you just use websites? Which 1 do you recommend?These hotels are normally ran by hindus and are not a specific chain. You just have to talk to the owner and tell them how long you need it for and they prefer cash. I never use credit card nor show I'd.
https://www.seeking.com/member/4c0df081-23cb-4f63-90be-f382c9d50944
Anyone talked to, met, or recognize her? I asked her about her main profile pic because it looks, to me, like it could almost be a different girl to the one in the rest of both her profile pics, as well as the pics she sent me. She said it was all her, but that the main profile pic was older than the others. I can see that, plus the fact that it's a professional pic, make up, etc. Anyways, the conversation got me thinking, I kind of feel as though I remember seeing the professional pic in the past. On Eros maybe? Anyone?
On a related note, after thinking to myself, this one is possibly another pro, I noted for the first time that her profile says "prefer not to say" regarding children, which we all know, means she has 'em, and possibly enough to be a turn-off. It's at that point that I realized I've been overlooking what I now consider to be another data point in attempting to screen out pros... babies. The right verbiage and pro pics are, to me decent possible indicators. Now I think, those factors plus a baby, not just a baby in and of itself, indicate the possibility of a "retired" pro. Maybe it's obvious and I'm slow. Maybe nobody else thinks of things this way. For me, it was a lightbulb over the head moment, and I suspect it could save me a decent amount of time screening. Carry on.
I came across this site called WhatsYourPrice. Any intel? Thank you!
https://www.seeking.com/member/73d382fe-1e7b-474c-9a02-4dfe40f6845c
Just want to point out that our "Katheriinn" seems to be working at Deja Vu. (According to the poster on the bathroom wall) Can anyone confirm?
https://www.seeking.com/member/73d382fe-1e7b-474c-9a02-4dfe40f6845c
Just want to point out that our "Katheriinn" seems to be working at Deja Vu. (According to the poster on the bathroom wall) Can anyone confirm?Can't confirm, but I caught that too. I just noticed that she sent me her number. Maybe I'll ask her and report back. She doesn't seem to be hiding it.
PussyPumper
02-26-20, 20:01
LivingPassionately has texted me regularly for months proposing to get together. Never talked details, but went straight to wanting to meet (for coffee? Always at times I said don't work for me. Looks great. And expensive. In her photos. Anyone met her? What is the deal?
https://www.seeking.com/member/8a83d46a-9e0e-4191-84b8-5665441f9a5e
ChrisThBreizh
02-27-20, 14:08
Hi,
I am a sugar daddy, living in San Diego.
And I search another guy to join us for threesome with hot sugar babby or foursome with 2 sugar babbies.
You can contact me on this site if someone is interested?
I found some sugar babbies which are open to do double penetration to her, but I need to find another guy, of course which can join our meetings in San Diego.
Thanks to reply, quickly.
Bye.
Christhbreizh.
Login Name / Handle: Valkyrie6969 (Can someone please post a link here? She blocked me).
She was asking $500 PPM directly, even on SA Platform. I didn't even bother to counter. I said I was going to think about it, she then blocked me the next day.
It was like the 5th or 6th texts that we were exchanging too. This is what it has become? A part of me is glad that the economy is going to take a dive, maybe it will bring some sense back to them.
JWalker350
03-09-20, 04:16
Login Name / Handle: Valkyrie6969 (Can someone please post a link here? She blocked me).
She was asking $500 PPM directly, even on SA Platform. I didn't even bother to counter. I said I was going to think about it, she then blocked me the next day.
It was like the 5th or 6th texts that we were exchanging too. This is what it has become? A part of me is glad that the economy is going to take a dive, maybe it will bring some sense back to them.I could not find that username on SA.
OcasianBoy
03-09-20, 05:07
https://www.seeking.com/member/58d63edb-d3d7-4825-87d5-16fcc577579e
She wants 1 k a meet. Seems like 90% of the girls are like this on SA right now.
https://www.seeking.com/member/5575b5d3-ebff-46a3-9500-c66b49b291fe
Signup for Snapchat Premium, "Custom videos".
Well, someone IS paying for those! Because I get text daily on tinder & SA about selling me "their pics. ".
https://www.seeking.com/member/58d63edb-d3d7-4825-87d5-16fcc577579e
She wants 1 k a meet. Seems like 90% of the girls are like this on SA right now.I tell them for 4 meetings a month they can have 1 k. Otherwise they can go hungry.
https://www.seeking.com/member/461db75b-5c0e-439e-bad3-9cc4b2a6a3b0
Her two public photos both look they're in a club. Her private photos are almost all inside a club and one of them has a visible poster that I think says Deja Vu. She'd be easy to spot at the club given the goddamn face tattoo. Anyone recognize her?
OcasianBoy
03-11-20, 19:16
https://www.seeking.com/member/4d3ea102-337f-41dd-b2f6-8cc1be331cf5
This girl wants 1800 for a meet. She's crazy or we have stupid guys paying that price.
https://www.seeking.com/member/4d3ea102-337f-41dd-b2f6-8cc1be331cf5
This girl wants 1800 for a meet. She's crazy or we have stupid guys paying that price.I think some moron paid her in the range of 1 k, so that her ego ballooned, oh, I have met those morons.
I recently met someone in LA, he is paying a SB around 2-3 K / month, and she lives in Arcadia. (He is from SD) The poor guy takes home around 4 k / month, very fugal, hard working guy, yet showers his SB w / money & gifts.
The sad part is that I got to know (from SB's gfs) that she is also taking in other SDs and she plans them really well with scheduling and the guy has no clue, he kept on saying "oh, she's a good girl, going to school, etc etc" :
SteakTartare
03-12-20, 14:53
The only thing better than an SB hooker getting 2 K / mo is getting 4 K / mo. And the only thing better than getting 4 K / mo is getting XXX. Well you get my drift. So if they thinks an SB is "exclusive" to him, I have some oceanfront property in Des Moines free of the Coronavirus for sale.
Steak.
I think some moron paid her in the range of 1 k, so that her ego ballooned, oh, I have met those morons.
I recently met someone in LA, he is paying a SB around 2-3 K / month, and she lives in Arcadia. (He is from SD) The poor guy takes home around 4 k / month, very fugal, hard working guy, yet showers his SB w / money & gifts.
The sad part is that I got to know (from SB's gfs) that she is also taking in other SDs and she plans them really well with scheduling and the guy has no clue, he kept on saying "oh, she's a good girl, going to school, etc etc" :
OcasianBoy
03-12-20, 17:09
I think some moron paid her in the range of 1 k, so that her ego ballooned, oh, I have met those morons.
I recently met someone in LA, he is paying a SB around 2-3 K / month, and she lives in Arcadia. (He is from SD) The poor guy takes home around 4 k / month, very fugal, hard working guy, yet showers his SB w / money & gifts.
The sad part is that I got to know (from SB's gfs) that she is also taking in other SDs and she plans them really well with scheduling and the guy has no clue, he kept on saying "oh, she's a good girl, going to school, etc etc" :Wow, ignorance is bliss I guess.
OcasianBoy
03-12-20, 17:10
https://www.seeking.com/member/08fc8b2e-241c-4a19-996d-2954c9912dd4
Anyone have any info on this girl? Pictures are from an Instagram model.
https://www.seeking.com/member/8fb8f805-b732-427a-bc16-8135c93f137a
This one tells me she wants a "cyber" thing; pics and convos. For fun I asked how much. $75/ pic! Wow... just, wow.
AmericanNinja
03-13-20, 03:57
https://www.seeking.com/member/8fb8f805-b732-427a-bc16-8135c93f137a
This one tells me she wants a "cyber" thing; pics and convos. For fun I asked how much. $75/ pic! Wow... just, wow.Unbelievable.
JohnsonOng
03-13-20, 04:34
Traveling from Boston in a couple months and would love to line something up. Where do you guys suggest looking. Would be willing to trade Boston SBs.
SteakTartare
03-13-20, 09:53
Not sure why you guys are taking that one step further and actually exchanging messages with these time wasters. I clicked on her profile and it took me about 1. 5 seconds to see the "Platonic" button at the bottom and then promptly hit Next.
Steak.
https://www.seeking.com/member/8fb8f805-b732-427a-bc16-8135c93f137a
This one tells me she wants a "cyber" thing; pics and convos. For fun I asked how much. $75/ pic! Wow... just, wow.
Unbelievable.
Sundowwner
03-13-20, 12:51
Login Name / Handle: Valkyrie6969 (Can someone please post a link here? She blocked me).
She was asking $500 PPM directly, even on SA Platform. I didn't even bother to counter. I said I was going to think about it, she then blocked me the next day.
It was like the 5th or 6th texts that we were exchanging too. This is what it has become? A part of me is glad that the economy is going to take a dive, maybe it will bring some sense back to them.Here's the link that you are looking for: https://www.seeking.com/messages/inbox/41959a69-bb26-442e-9b54-876e38e9f014.
This girl messaged me with today we exchanged texts and offered ppm of 300. She accepted so we might do a meet and greet. I'll report back.
Here's the link that you are looking for: https://www.seeking.com/messages/inbox/41959a69-bb26-442e-9b54-876e38e9f014.
This girl messaged me with today we exchanged texts and offered ppm of 300. She accepted so we might do a meet and greet. I'll report back.Er...That's your Inbox link, we can't access that.
Either way, please report back.
Sundowwner
03-14-20, 12:30
Er...That's your Inbox link, we can't access that.
Either way, please report back.https://www.seeking.com/member/36ebc24c-edeb-457a-8625-0468959bbbde
Sorry, I've attached the correct profile link above. We're supposed to meet for drinks soon. I'll report back.
I could use some advice. I've been chatting with a girl that wants me to pay for her babysitter in advance of meeting. That would be a complete no-go for me usually, I have never paid anyone anything in advance of meeting. But, for various reasons, she seems legit. For one, her profile says she's been a member since 2017. She also seems to really want the date; She originally asked for full allowance in advance, at which point I almost deleted her number. But, she quickly decided that she just needs $ to pay her childcare and Uber fees. At one point she said I could send the payment directly to her babysitter. Seemed odd, but like it was perhaps a sign of legitimacy.
Anyways, how would you handle this? If you were to send an advance payment, what means would you use? Meaning, what payment app? A concern of mine with digital payment apps has always been, how much of my info and identity is available to the recipient of a payment? Thanks all.
PlutoKiller
03-14-20, 18:21
I could use some advice. I've been chatting with a girl that wants me to pay for her babysitter in advance of meeting. That would be a complete no-go for me usually, I have never paid anyone anything in advance of meeting. But, for various reasons, she seems legit. For one, her profile says she's been a member since 2017. She also seems to really want the date; She originally asked for full allowance in advance, at which point I almost deleted her number. But, she quickly decided that she just needs $ to pay her childcare and Uber fees. At one point she said I could send the payment directly to her babysitter. Seemed odd, but like it was perhaps a sign of legitimacy. Anyways, how would you handle this? If you were to send an advance payment, what means would you use? Meaning, what payment app? A concern of mine with digital payment apps has always been, how much of my info and identity is available to the recipient of a payment? Thanks all.Don't do it.
I could use some advice. I've been chatting with a girl that wants me to pay for her babysitter in advance of meeting. That would be a complete no-go for me usually, I have never paid anyone anything in advance of meeting. But, for various reasons, she seems legit. For one, her profile says she's been a member since 2017. She also seems to really want the date; She originally asked for full allowance in advance, at which point I almost deleted her number. But, she quickly decided that she just needs $ to pay her childcare and Uber fees. At one point she said I could send the payment directly to her babysitter. Seemed odd, but like it was perhaps a sign of legitimacy.
Anyways, how would you handle this? If you were to send an advance payment, what means would you use? Meaning, what payment app? A concern of mine with digital payment apps has always been, how much of my info and identity is available to the recipient of a payment? Thanks all.First of all, I would have deleted her number.
If you really want to meet her, here is my suggestion - Pay for the Uber via your Uber App (or go picking her up if you can), then tell her when you two meet, you can give her the babysitter money in cash, so she can pay the babysitter via her App. All the current mobile payment apps (vimeo or zelle) inform the recipient quite a bit about the sender so they can ID who pays what.
Good luck & report back if you can
FingerLicking
03-14-20, 23:28
I could use some advice. I've been chatting with a girl that wants me to pay for her babysitter in advance of meeting. That would be a complete no-go for me usually, I have never paid anyone anything in advance of meeting. But, for various reasons, she seems legit. For one, her profile says she's been a member since 2017. She also seems to really want the date; She originally asked for full allowance in advance, at which point I almost deleted her number. But, she quickly decided that she just needs $ to pay her childcare and Uber fees. At one point she said I could send the payment directly to her babysitter. Seemed odd, but like it was perhaps a sign of legitimacy.
Anyways, how would you handle this? If you were to send an advance payment, what means would you use? Meaning, what payment app? A concern of mine with digital payment apps has always been, how much of my info and identity is available to the recipient of a payment? Thanks all.Drop it. Also why go for moms in SA?
I could use some advice. I've been chatting with a girl that wants me to pay for her babysitter in advance of meeting. That would be a complete no-go for me usually, I have never paid anyone anything in advance of meeting. But, for various reasons, she seems legit. For one, her profile says she's been a member since 2017. She also seems to really want the date; She originally asked for full allowance in advance, at which point I almost deleted her number. But, she quickly decided that she just needs $ to pay her childcare and Uber fees. At one point she said I could send the payment directly to her babysitter. Seemed odd, but like it was perhaps a sign of legitimacy.
Anyways, how would you handle this? If you were to send an advance payment, what means would you use? Meaning, what payment app? A concern of mine with digital payment apps has always been, how much of my info and identity is available to the recipient of a payment? Thanks all.If her name is Sandra. Don't do it. She is a scammer.
Drop it. Also why go for moms in SA?Because everyone has their thing.
Not saying moms are my thing, but I've yet to consider that as factor whatsoever in any arrangement. I don't see what bearing that has on anything at hand on SA.
She's 26, hot as fuck, and wants to have fun. In my experience, nine times out of ten, I'll have more fun, sooner and longer, with a girl with some sort of life experience than with a 19 yo princess. Again, in my experience.
And, no her name is not Sandra, but thank you for the warning.
Because everyone has their thing.
Not saying moms are my thing, but I've yet to consider that as factor whatsoever in any arrangement. I don't see what bearing that has on anything at hand on SA.
She's 26, hot as fuck, and wants to have fun. In my experience, nine times out of ten, I'll have more fun, sooner and longer, with a girl with some sort of life experience than with a 19 yo princess. Again, in my experience.
And, no her name is not Sandra, but thank you for the warning.Sounds like you're dead set on going through with it with this lady. Go ahead and pay up front. Let us know how it works out.
FingerLicking
03-16-20, 20:25
Because everyone has their thing.
Not saying moms are my thing, but I've yet to consider that as factor whatsoever in any arrangement. I don't see what bearing that has on anything at hand on SA.
She's 26, hot as fuck, and wants to have fun. In my experience, nine times out of ten, I'll have more fun, sooner and longer, with a girl with some sort of life experience than with a 19 yo princess. Again, in my experience.
And, no her name is not Sandra, but thank you for the warning.Oh for sure you do you but overall the arrangement seems riddled with red flags. I have never had an arrangement that was anything close to that.
Oh for sure you do you but overall the arrangement seems riddled with red flags. I have never had an arrangement that was anything close to that.Right. The key one is. Paying extra for a babysitter is fine. After meeting in person you could pay this as part of your first Meetup or m&g fee. But what kind of person is not even able to pay the babysitter after they get back?
Probably a dishonest one who nobody trusts. She will rip you off as well. I know from experience. Just next her and move on. If she is that desperate for money she will see you without an upfront payment, otherwise she's a scammer.
Given the current situation if your job is still safe rates are going to fall shortly. Most of the young women you want to see from this website, virtually all of them, are employed in the service industry. Barkeep or stripper or third string model or personal trainer. All of them are going to be hurting for money over the coming weeks and will probably accept a lot less.
JWalker350
03-19-20, 02:39
https://www.seeking.com/member/36ebc24c-edeb-457a-8625-0468959bbbde
Sorry, I've attached the correct profile link above. We're supposed to meet for drinks soon. I'll report backHave you met her yet? I think she is in San Luis Obispo now and no longer in San Diego.
So I re-upped my subscription given the current situation. And I messaged girls for hours yesterday and today. I found what everyone here is complaining of: insane time wasting behavior on the part of the ladies. Absurd demands, and even the girls that would respond and agree to a meeting are ghosty. One woman couldn't meet yesterday because no babysitter. Another apparently has a sick dog. Another has a "bit of cholic". Another has "plans" when the whole city is on lockdown.
But after sending about 150 initial messages, getting about 15 to respond, I found a gem. Honestly best paid sex I have ever had.
A 24 year old 100 lb hard body white chick with adorable big eyes and a British accent. Damage was $400 but I bet I will get her to take less over time.
Started kissing the moment we were alone. Let me pick her up and pull her to my lap on the couch and later the bed. Was wearing black lingerie. Allowed bare stripper slide and while she would giggle and say condom she would let me put the tip in. And then eventually all of it, after getting me to agree not to finish inside her. And then after I came. She asked me to pull out this time but said I could cum in her next time.
She let me have sex again, she was really wet. And we did missionary, the variant with legs in the air later, doggie, sideways, all of it. Well most positions. Took her home after about 80 minutes of constant sex.
To be frank I am the same ethnic subgroup as her and we are a good match physically. I think she may find me attractive and may genuinely have enjoyed the sex. So YMMV. Well when if I share her profile.
So it's possible. It takes luck and you might have to go through 30 girls to get one this good. I have seen at least 15 SA girls over time and this is the best so far. Keep trying.
-message sponsored by Wade, the asshole who charges you $90 a month.
SeaTownGuy
03-22-20, 00:37
Odd that these two profiles are pretty much identical.
https://www.seeking.com/member/cab454f4-e593-4501-9caa-ab533a48e479
https://www.seeking.com/member/b8677f02-6e46-40dd-8442-f7cb57344ea8
Sundowwner
03-22-20, 16:30
Have you met her yet? I think she is in San Luis Obispo now and no longer in San Diego.She used to live in San Luis Obispo last year but graduated from college & moved to SD. Yeah we met for drinks right before the lockdown. She did try to do the negotiating thing but agreed to 300 if we're to meet in the future. Might schedule something once the lockdown is lifted but she really isn't my type. I'll likely continue shopping around.
Odd that these two profiles are pretty much identical.
https://www.seeking.com/member/cab454f4-e593-4501-9caa-ab533a48e479
https://www.seeking.com/member/b8677f02-6e46-40dd-8442-f7cb57344ea8Shady for sure. I'd write one and ask, "what's up with this identical profile?". You'd probably be more likely to get blocked than a response, but worth a shot.
PussyPumper
03-23-20, 09:27
With the CA quarantine / lockdown rules?
I sense an opportunity here, in that a lot of younger women must now have lost jobs, and need cash.
So, anyone still seeing new SBs?
Even if you wanted to, where to meet up?
Still able to use hotels?
With the CA quarantine / lockdown rules?
I sense an opportunity here, in that a lot of younger women must now have lost jobs, and need cash.
So, anyone still seeing new SBs?
Even if you wanted to, where to meet up?
Still able to use hotels?So far while I have found a decent deal (bareback CIP with a hardbody 9 for 400/ meet) for pre-virus I have noticed the phenomenon of "sticky prices". I still get quoted 500 and 600 despite these women being in greater need, and some of the competing men driving up prices must have lost their jobs.
Another factor is a lot of the women seem to be unwilling to meet as they are afraid to get the virus.
Also getting a lot of time wasting and ridiculous excuses. "Had to work yesterday, dog is sick, don't feel great today" and so on. Which tells me they aren't yet at the point where they really need the money.
I have a place to hook up at, but if you live with a wife or someone who won't allow it then yeah it's a problem.
DrTravel2015
03-23-20, 14:52
With the CA quarantine / lockdown rules?
I sense an opportunity here, in that a lot of younger women must now have lost jobs, and need cash.
So, anyone still seeing new SBs?
Even if you wanted to, where to meet up?
Still able to use hotels?Being active now can be a real challenge. Likely, the financial need of young SBs will continue well after we are able to go out and interact.
Well, as many of the members have pointed out, it is quite difficult right now, in all aspects. Many of the SDs are looking at their job / income security. My buddy who works at a large IT company in town, got told yesterday that this is it - Starting on April 1st, they'll have to use all the sick days and paid vacation days, and then after that, well, there is no "after that. ".
I am sure it's 10 fold for the SBs. They basically wiped out their entire service, entertainment, food and drink industries. We just need to bunker down and weather through this.
PussyPumper
03-25-20, 15:53
Just got this PM from "her".
Hello there! How are you? My name is Ilona and my job is representing women in Russia, the US, and Canada who would like to meet American and Canadian men. It might be of interest to you. Simply a great chance to save yourself a lot of time. To be quick, I have a few girls currently based in San Diego and can show them to you. I have been working alone as the girls representative for almost two years, have a website with more information, verify that the men are legitimate and attest that the girls I represent are legitimate.
To help you pick the girls you like, I initially provide pictures and detailed anonymous information by email or WhatsApp including age and other information that you may ask for as well. When you pick a girl, I'll forward a message directly to that girl from you and they'll decide if they want to connect.
My fee is payable when you are in touch with the girl of your choice via messages chaperoned by me If both people want to proceed, I'll provide all contact information. In this case, I make introductions and my fee is $300 when both parties choose to connect. If you'd like to contact multiple girls at once, I charge an upfront fee of $400 to handle all the connections. In this option, you contact them on your own and see if they are interested. This covers up to twenty simultaneous contacts.
All the girls I represent are beautiful, educated, intelligent and they have passports with necessary visas to visit you in the US or Canada.
Some of the girls I work with, especially based in the US or Canada, are looking for an opportunity to travel, or just have some fun (friends with benefits, NSA). Others are hoping for something more serious and long-term. I encourage both parties to be open, up front and honest about their desires. Otherwise, the match I make won't be a good one.
If you are interested in learning more about these girls or the local ones, please send me your email address or a WhatsApp number and I'll forward pictures and details. Adding a picture with your information increases your chances with the girls tremendously. Almost all of the girls I work with are looking for older, kinder, more mature men.
My email is ilona@ilonamatchmaker.com.
Best regards, Ilona.
PussyPumper
03-25-20, 17:36
Well, as many of the members have pointed out, it is quite difficult right now, in all aspects. Many of the SDs are looking at their job / income security. My buddy who works at a large IT company in town, got told yesterday that this is it - Starting on April 1st, they'll have to use all the sick days and paid vacation days, and then after that, well, there is no "after that. ".
I am sure it's 10 fold for the SBs. They basically wiped out their entire service, entertainment, food and drink industries. We just need to bunker down and weather through this.I agree. However, there are unprecedented opportunities out there right now, for those who have the means, and are willing to take the risk!
I re-upped on SA yesterday. The scene is transformed. Can't miss. Like shooting fish in a barrel. Lots of new women have signed up, many just in the last day or two. With much better attitude, better communication, and lower expectations. I got multiple POTs who agreed to get intimate within 12 hours.
Then I got nervous, after reading about what CV-19 does to people, and what may be coming down the tracks here in CA. So, I may not pull the trigger myself.
PussyPumper
03-27-20, 00:20
Then this girl is for you!
https://www.seeking.com/member/da79750a-144f-4e67-91f7-55c12e92ba55
Anyone ever done that? Seems incredibly risky to me. How do you get rid of her if things go south?
Separately, as an addendum regarding CV-19, the hottest of the (several) women who offered themselves up to me on Monday, wanting to meet during the week, has since reported being quite sick. I am glad I got cold feet.
ArrogantBstrd
03-27-20, 14:30
Then this girl is for you!
https://www.seeking.com/member/da79750a-144f-4e67-91f7-55c12e92ba55
Anyone ever done that? Seems incredibly risky to me. How do you get rid of her if things go south?Sugar Babies on SA lately are pretty reasonable. "Mutually Beneficial. " Both sides hold their part of the arrangement, and move on when they get bored. There used to be a lot of pros a couple of years ago. Haven't ran into any lately. I am pretty specific with my searches, though.
Could anyone give a quick breakdown of the methods of SA? (During this environment would be nice).
Like average price? For how long?
How do you pay for the website? I think I've read somewhere that people used reloadable cards?
Do the girls usually host?
ArrogantBstrd
03-27-20, 20:33
Could anyone give a quick breakdown of the methods of SA? (During this environment would be nice).
Like average price? For how long?
How do you pay for the website? I think I've read somewhere that people used reloadable cards?
Do the girls usually host?Every girl is different. I specifically seek out people who can host. The college or working girls who "seek mentorship" often do not host.
The lowest PPM arrangement that I've been was $200/ meet. CFS / BBBJCIM. Sometimes, I didn't even have to pay. She was already successful. She just wanted to fuck. Other PPMs didn't have set times. Sometimes just a morning blowjob, and other times were marathon fuckfests. It depends...
Be up front, be a gentleman, and be specific in what you're looking for. Small talk wastes time.
Every girl is different. I specifically seek out people who can host. The college or working girls who "seek mentorship" often do not host.
The lowest PPM arrangement that I've been was $200/ meet. CFS / BBBJCIM. Sometimes, I didn't even have to pay. She was already successful. She just wanted to fuck. Other PPMs didn't have set times. Sometimes just a morning blowjob, and other times were marathon fuckfests. It depends...
Be up front, be a gentleman, and be specific in what you're looking for. Small talk wastes time.Thanks. Do you use a burner phone or does that doesn't matter.
ArrogantBstrd
03-28-20, 00:42
Thanks. Do you use a burner phone or does that doesn't matter.No burner phone for me. Not worried about dodging LEOs.
If someone else has access to your phone, you can use Kik or Skype to hide your messages. Kik deletes your messages when you log out, but it remembers your username. Someone with access to your phone can see you logged on as JoeJoesph or ArrogantBstrd or whatever the case may be. The workaround to that is to uninstall Kik after each use. You'll still receive messages when you log back in.
Skype gives you the option to remember or purge your login data. It also keeps your messages when you log out. You can pay for an additional phone line through Skype if you do need a burner phone.
I sure other hobbyists have their own tactics. I welcome them to chime in.
No burner phone for me. Not worried about dodging LEOs.
If someone else has access to your phone, you can use Kik or Skype to hide your messages. Kik deletes your messages when you log out, but it remembers your username. Someone with access to your phone can see you logged on as JoeJoesph or ArrogantBstrd or whatever the case may be. The workaround to that is to uninstall Kik after each use. You'll still receive messages when you log back in.
Skype gives you the option to remember or purge your login data. It also keeps your messages when you log out. You can pay for an additional phone line through Skype if you do need a burner phone.
I sure other hobbyists have their own tactics. I welcome them to chime in.Thanks, bud!
PussyPumper
03-30-20, 19:48
Every girl is different. I specifically seek out people who can host. The college or working girls who "seek mentorship" often do not host.
Very interested to hear how you go about seeking out those who can host.
Seems to me that asking about this is often regarded as a big red flag by potential SBs.
PussyPumper
03-31-20, 23:11
18+ years of child support available!
https://www.seeking.com/member/65cc657b-0e66-4794-bf76-f8b0f7286e5a
ArrogantBstrd
04-01-20, 11:29
Very interested to hear how you go about seeking out those who can host.
Seems to me that asking about this is often regarded as a big red flag by potential SBs."Hi, I'm AB! Can you host?" -- I don't imagine that would work too well. Plus, SA would probably suspend me for a day or so for trying to solicit a prostitute.
I ask them straight up after I build a little rapport but before we meet. That's after they have given me their phone number and after we've migrated the convo to Kik /Skype. I don't give my number out until after she lets me cum in her mouth. LOL
Pay to Play
04-01-20, 11:44
"Hi, I'm AB! Can you host?" -- I don't imagine that would work too well. Plus, SA would probably suspend me for a day or so for trying to solicit a prostitute.
I ask them straight up after I build a little rapport but before we meet. That's after they have given me their phone number and after we've migrated the convo to Kik /Skype. I don't give my number out until after she lets me cum in her mouth. LOLPlenty of girls who will host, I usually wait until after we negotiate money and start talking about location. I usually willing to rent a room if they cannot host. I'm open to trading connections with other members for girls willing to host. BTW, SA never suspends for a day. I have lost count the number of times I have been banned. It's a one and done deal. Your account is generally not retreivable. Although I am currently on my longest standing account. Sense maybe they have relaxed their monitoring.
ArrogantBstrd
04-01-20, 11:49
Plenty of girls who will host, I usually wait until after we negotiate money and start talking about location. I usually willing to rent a room if they cannot host. I'm open to trading connections with other members for girls willing to host. BTW, SA never suspends for a day. I have lost count the number of times I have been banned. It's a one and done deal. Your account is generally not retreivable. Although I am currently on my longest standing account. Sense maybe they have relaxed their monitoring.The last time I was suspended was probably in '17 during negotiations. We discussed prices and locations. SA gave me a "warning" and suspended me for a day. LOL! Lots of pros and masseuses back in those days. Not so much the case now. Lotta college babies.
Really appreciate the valuable information, fellahs. Seems like this is the way to go. I usually go thru PD, but that's usually is a bad experience LOL.
Really appreciate the valuable information, fellahs. Seems like this is the way to go. I usually go thru PD, but that's usually is a bad experience LOL.The reviews on PD are almost never accurate, and the provider can delete them if she so chooses.
AeroStartC
04-01-20, 20:07
I don't give my number out until after she lets me cum in her mouth. LOLLove it, good move.
PussyPumper
04-02-20, 22:31
Just wondering how many guys are taking advantage of all the wonderful new SA entrants to arrange new dates, or are staying home like me?
This one wants 600, I'll wait a bit and counter.
https://www.seeking.com/member/56ca3f4b-6f6c-4b65-9c7a-fb7cb638f375
This one got spoiled at 500 and refuses to budge.
https://www.seeking.com/member/31e7e3b8-2378-419e-b480-3daf8b1127f9
Lucy wants 600 "for first meetup" will counter tomorrow, wish me luck.
https://www.seeking.com/member/0d052e48-ac6c-4e8a-b356-9e07c0655730
This young mother in Orange County is willing to do 600 for an overnight. Unfortunately she is in a rush and not willing to break up the payments. She is also willing to meet 3 times for an upfront 600 if you would trust that. Can't host. Hopefully her landlord gives her a break.
This is an example of the opportunities to come and how we can help these ladies in need.
I'm hoping to find a young babe that PPMs in the 100's and a few backups LOL.
SidVicious
04-03-20, 13:59
This one got spoiled at 500 and refuses to budge.
https://www.seeking.com/member/31e7e3b8-2378-419e-b480-3daf8b1127f9Very pretty girl. Not cheap.
Sundowwner
04-03-20, 14:24
Just wondering how many guys are taking advantage of all the wonderful new SA entrants to arrange new dates, or are staying home like me?I've been sitting it out at least during this portion of the lock down. Plus I think there will be an influx of new SB's onto SA that will drive down rates. I've already negotiated a few more reasonable rates based on the current environment. I just haven't pulled the trigger yet.
The Ass Man
04-03-20, 15:22
Just wondering how many guys are taking advantage of all the wonderful new SA entrants to arrange new dates, or are staying home like me?Many on there now are offering "virtual dates" LOL.
There is a lot of new talent on SA and SB, some looking for handouts and no meetings yet, others are still looking to meet.
My line up is full but if the right one comes along I'll swap one out.
This one got spoiled at 500 and refuses to budge.
https://www.seeking.com/member/31e7e3b8-2378-419e-b480-3daf8b1127f9
This one wants 600, I'll wait a bit and counter.
https://www.seeking.com/member/56ca3f4b-6f6c-4b65-9c7a-fb7cb638f375
Lucy wants 600 "for first meetup" will counter tomorrow, wish me luck.
https://www.seeking.com/member/0d052e48-ac6c-4e8a-b356-9e07c0655730Although I have the funds, I just find it hard to spend that much on anyone. $600 / meet is just over the top! Maybe when I become old and decrepit, I will pay that much, but not today.
This young mother in Orange County is willing to do 600 for an overnight. Unfortunately she is in a rush and not willing to break up the payments. She is also willing to meet 3 times for an upfront 600 if you would trust that. Can't host. Hopefully her landlord gives her a break.
This is an example of the opportunities to come and how we can help these ladies in need.
I'm hoping to find a young babe that PPMs in the 100's and a few backups LOL.
Lucy wants 600 "for first meetup" will counter tomorrow, wish me luck.
https://www.seeking.com/member/0d052e48-ac6c-4e8a-b356-9e07c0655730
This one got spoiled at 500 and refuses to budge.
https://www.seeking.com/member/31e7e3b8-2378-419e-b480-3daf8b1127f9
This one wants 600, I'll wait a bit and counter.
https://www.seeking.com/member/56ca3f4b-6f6c-4b65-9c7a-fb7cb638f375Let them go hungry.
City Slicker
04-04-20, 01:45
Many on there now are offering "virtual dates" LOL.
There is a lot of new talent on SA and SB, some looking for handouts and no meetings yet, others are still looking to meet.
My line up is full but if the right one comes along I'll swap one out.Virtual dates? Do you guys really pay for company? Or girls that only wants to talk on phone? Come on. Really?
The Ass Man
04-04-20, 09:51
Virtual dates? Do you guys really pay for company? Or girls that only wants to talk on phone? Come on. Really?That's why I'm laughing about it. I can't imagine someone shelling out money to face time with some chick. Isn't that why porn hub was invented?
ArrogantBstrd
04-04-20, 11:58
Sounds crazy, but there are people who pay just for companionship. The reasons vary: Widower still grieving, younger guy seeking emotional connection, etc. There's are bars in both Japan and Korea where you pay for companionship. Sometimes, it's just paid companionship. But just like a Hooters, Tilted Kilt, or Twin Peaks, you might be able to take one of the girls home if you build relationship.
I just want some girl to suck the cum out of my balls. That falls under companionship, technically. LOL.
SteakTartare
04-04-20, 12:46
You must be my brother from another mother, because my definition of companionship is the same. Dick-pussy companionship, one hour at a time. That is why I don't waste my precious resources with the SB world, because the vast majority of these chicks think they are entitled to your hard earned dollars simply for breathing the same oxygen you are inhaling in the room LOL.
Steak.
I just want some girl to suck the cum out of my balls. That falls under companionship, technically. LOL.
Many of the girls that I contacted were reserved about meeting up. Rightfully so, and understandable. That's why I have not renewed, I am going to sit this one out and wait. Besides, all the "Virtual dates" BS that I have had enough as well.
CaliDreamin101 is in San Diego now. She used to do some porn, her stage name was Kendall Kross. I talked to her on the phone and she sounded ditzy, kept changing the subject and was sniffling and coughing. (No thanks) I told her I'd be in touch, I don't know her rates.
I guess the dream life of a porn starlet went to shit.
Then this girl is for you!
https://www.seeking.com/member/da79750a-144f-4e67-91f7-55c12e92ba55
Anyone ever done that? Seems incredibly risky to me. How do you get rid of her if things go south?
Separately, as an addendum regarding CV-19, the hottest of the (several) women who offered themselves up to me on Monday, wanting to meet during the week, has since reported being quite sick. I am glad I got cold feet.
BigBear818
04-10-20, 02:08
18+ years of child support available!
https://www.seeking.com/member/65cc657b-0e66-4794-bf76-f8b0f7286e5aI won't mind planting my seeds in her if she's pretty, has her own money and is also serious about letting me see other women. But there is that potential for her to take me to the economic cleaners through child support, especially if you own property, money saved up and other assets.
Hello,
Anyone have any Intel on briesd13?
https://www.seeking.com/member/f6bc8381-deb4-4357-b167-244c8170e712
She looks TGTBT.
PussyPumper
04-13-20, 05:54
XXXKinkygirlSammyXXX.
In a same-sex marriage. Wants to be creampied. Not on birth control. You figure it out.
PussyPumper
04-13-20, 19:16
This cutie was on SA two years ago. Best facefuck I ever had - she really got into it. She was airtight on my face, and came all over me. .
https://vipergirls.to/threads/5008363-Underrated-Adult-Entertainment-Hot-amp-Different?p=62594214&viewfull=1#post62594214.
Unfortunately, I praised her too highly, so she wanted to raise the contribution level. Flaked on me when I didn't.
A pity, as she was wild!
Pay to Play
04-14-20, 13:13
This girl is down to meet for a FWB arrangement and looks fun but blocked me after I offered 300 per meet. https://www.seeking.com/member/7b0e63a3-202d-4568-bb5d-6263769558fb This is the problem with SB sites. Some of these woman expect to make big dollars. But I say good luck in our current state of affairs. Maybe YMMV.
BigBear818
04-14-20, 18:14
XXXKinkygirlSammyXXX.
In a same-sex marriage. Wants to be creampied. Not on birth control. You figure it out.I won't mind filling her up with my baby batter man power if I can get her contact information. I'll just use one of my burner phones and stay discreet when I meet up with her.
This cutie was on SA two years ago. Best facefuck I ever had - she really got into it. She was airtight on my face, and came all over me. .
https://vipergirls.to/threads/5008363-Underrated-Adult-Entertainment-Hot-amp-Different?p=62594214&viewfull=1#post62594214.
Unfortunately, I praised her too highly, so she wanted to raise the contribution level. Flaked on me when I didn't.
A pity, as she was wild!She was on HX before that. I saw her about 3 times. Last time rawdawg to completion on my roomates bed. Was thinking about doing an ongoing thing with her but she had "a partner" and thru FB I saw she knew a friend of mine from college.
Had to bail on that as there were too many potential complications.
A year or so later I bumped into her at a vegan bowl shop in MV with a friend from work. And her with her "partner".
PussyPumper
04-17-20, 00:09
She was on HX before that. I saw her about 3 times. Last time rawdawg to completion on my roomates bed. Was thinking about doing an ongoing thing with her but she had "a partner" and thru FB I saw she knew a friend of mine from college.
Had to bail on that as there were too many potential complications.
A year or so later I bumped into her at a vegan bowl shop in MV with a friend from work. And her with her "partner".First time I met her she was with her husband. She was into threesomes. We were all supposed to get together for one, but could not make schedules work before she got greedy.
PussyPumper
04-19-20, 02:08
There is an African American woman on SA, says she is lactating. On for long time. Anyone had experience with her? Post here, or PM.
https://www.seeking.com/member/ce4d6fa3-1917-4cfa-bb31-f7cbe6720f06
Anyone able to help me with some intel on this girl? Says she is from SD and has 619 number. Says she moved here and had a daddy there. Please pm as time is short.
FilmMakr97
04-21-20, 14:20
You guys notice how many chicks from Venezuela are on the site? When I message one, I get 3 or 4 immediately favoriting my profile. Seems like most have implants. Where do they get money for implants? Anyone know the scam? It's like they work for a business. Cartel?
Muncher8888
04-23-20, 15:26
This young mother in Orange County is willing to do 600 for an overnight. Unfortunately she is in a rush and not willing to break up the payments. She is also willing to meet 3 times for an upfront 600 if you would trust that. Can't host. Hopefully her landlord gives her a break.Current law is no one can be evicted.
I would have your b. S. Detector meter on high.
What did you end up doing? Heard from her again?
PussyPumper
04-26-20, 04:16
Thought better of this!
Pay to Play
04-27-20, 15:36
SA and other SB sites include a lot of fake news that you must weed through. This takes time to cutivate and some risk to take chances on something. But in the end you find a diamond in the rough. Found this girl, young, fun and well you know the rest. My point in posting is to encourage you all to keep looking. And when you find a good one take care of her. Nothing lasts forever.
FingerLicking
04-27-20, 16:02
SA and other SB sites include a lot of fake news that you must weed through. This takes time to cutivate and some risk to take chances on something. But in the end you find a diamond in the rough. Found this girl, young, fun and well you know the rest. My point in posting is to encourage you all to keep looking. And when you find a good one take care of her. Nothing lasts forever.How much did it run you?
SA and other SB sites include a lot of fake news that you must weed through. This takes time to cutivate and some risk to take chances on something. But in the end you find a diamond in the rough. Found this girl, young, fun and well you know the rest. My point in posting is to encourage you all to keep looking. And when you find a good one take care of her. Nothing lasts forever.Excellent find.
Looks like you're using one of those action cameras with 120-180 degrees view. I initially liked those, but hated it after making a few videos. Fucking looks kind of weird.
Current law is no one can be evicted.
I would have your b. S. Detector meter on high.
What did you end up doing? Heard from her again?You can evict it just can't be financial, if it's say for drug dealing, police issue than you can evict.
SteakTartare
04-27-20, 21:47
Very nice post. I almost did a double-take because it looked like one of mine LOL. Very sexy body on that girl, especially her bubble butt and narrow waist. The property looks like one of Marriott's, maybe a Fairfield or Springhill Suite. The wide angle lens does put a very far perspective on the action shot, almost as if I am looking thru the peep hole. Well done.
Steak.
SA and other SB sites include a lot of fake news that you must weed through. This takes time to cutivate and some risk to take chances on something. But in the end you find a diamond in the rough. Found this girl, young, fun and well you know the rest. My point in posting is to encourage you all to keep looking. And when you find a good one take care of her. Nothing lasts forever.
Pay to Play
04-28-20, 17:10
How much did it run you?200+RM. Like I said. Unicorn.
Pay to Play
04-28-20, 17:12
Excellent find.
Looks like you're using one of those action cameras with 120-180 degrees view. I initially liked those, but hated it after making a few videos. Fucking looks kind of weird.Agreed, not the best quality but have an update higher resolution that I'm working on currently.
SA and other SB sites include a lot of fake news that you must weed through. This takes time to cutivate and some risk to take chances on something. But in the end you find a diamond in the rough. Found this girl, young, fun and well you know the rest. My point in posting is to encourage you all to keep looking. And when you find a good one take care of her. Nothing lasts forever.Well, the photos certainly made me laugh. Naked except socks, classy stuff.
Pay to Play
04-29-20, 13:16
Well, the photos certainly made me laugh. Naked except socks, classy stuff.LOL, you got to be ready to run.
She hit me up first, went to texts after a few messages. She's DTF but wants $300 PPM.
Maybe 10 years and 50 lbs ago. Too chunky for my taste at that rate so I passed.
https://www.seeking.com/member/4448f97f-f768-4781-afa1-d4dbdaff8681
Of This! Haven't been checking much lately, my subscription expired a couple months ago and ran across this. Really? Is this what SA has become, other than the Venezuela favoriting bots. I have been bombarded with messages, but since I'm not paying can't read them. If something comes along maybe I'll be tempted. Good thing my usuals are taking care of me for now.
https://www.seeking.com/member/2180bdef-63ec-46f0-ad6c-61686b5346f1
Paying to watch someone breath and eat?
AeroStartC
05-05-20, 21:48
Of This! Haven't been checking much lately, my subscription expired a couple months ago and ran across this. Really? Is this what SA has become, other than the Venezuela favoriting bots. I have been bombarded with messages, but since I'm not paying can't read them. If something comes along maybe I'll be tempted. Good thing my usuals are taking care of me for now.
https://www.seeking.com/member/2180bdef-63ec-46f0-ad6c-61686b5346f1
Paying to watch someone breath and eat?She should pay you for the mentorship. .
Of This! Haven't been checking much lately, my subscription expired a couple months ago and ran across this. Really? Is this what SA has become, other than the Venezuela favoriting bots. I have been bombarded with messages, but since I'm not paying can't read them. If something comes along maybe I'll be tempted. Good thing my usuals are taking care of me for now.
https://www.seeking.com/member/2180bdef-63ec-46f0-ad6c-61686b5346f1
Paying to watch someone breath and eat?"I'm here to offer time, company and good conversation in exchange for financial compensation. I will not be providing any sort of sexual experiences for money. So if that is what you seek we will not be a great fit for each other. I do have genuine interest in what you do in life and how you've reached your professional goals and am also interested in mentorship. I am going to grad school in the fall so there is also a financial interest in this for me as well either payments for each meeting or monthly allowance would be most preferred! I do plan on providing intellectually stimulating conversation should you decide we are a good match".
Is her name Warren Buffett? What intellectual stimulation is she getting paid for? To talk about shoes and clothes and makeup? And she got no boobs!
I am new to this. I got a paid membership and was curios if anyone has met with Mandy? Any feedback here or by PM would be appreciated.
Of This! Haven't been checking much lately, my subscription expired a couple months ago and ran across this. Really? Is this what SA has become, other than the Venezuela favoriting bots. I have been bombarded with messages, but since I'm not paying can't read them. If something comes along maybe I'll be tempted. Good thing my usuals are taking care of me for now.
https://www.seeking.com/member/2180bdef-63ec-46f0-ad6c-61686b5346f1
Paying to watch someone breath and eat?She signed up last week, I'm giving her another week or two max before she either erases her profile or leave it abandoned. I remember talking to a woman in her early 30's on seeking more than a year ago, she sent me links to videos made by a supposedly professional sugar baby on how sugar dating should work, and that lady I met was thinking it was working like this, basically the guy pays thousands of dollars without expecting anything in return haha. She was actually just horny as her husband didn't want to have sex and was ok with her seeing other guys, and in the end we agreed on me only paying for her gas to come to my place for the night, as she drove from Temecula. It was probably the best arrangement I had, until her husband got jealous and so she stopped coming, I miss her, she was a really nice gal, but she just got delusional because of these stupid youtube videos of "expert" sugar babies.
ChrisThBreizh
05-07-20, 03:51
Search another sugar daddy for threesome or foursome meeting with one or 2 good sugar babies.
Hi,
I am a sugar daddy, living in San Diego.
And I search another guy to join us for threesome with hot sugar baby or foursome with 2 sugar babies.
You can contact me on this site if someone is interested?
I found some sugar babies which are open to do double penetration, but I need to find another guy to join me for to fuck theses girls in dp.
Of course our meetings can be in San Diego.
Thanks to reply, quickly.
Bye.
Christhbreizh.
JWalker350
05-07-20, 20:36
I am new to this. I got a paid membership and was curios if anyone has met with Mandy? Any feedback here or by PM would be appreciated.You have to post her profile. There are more than one girl name Mandy.
There are still a lot of SBs wiling to meet in the midst of this pandemic. Any stories good or bad out there? I've been hesitant.
Sundowwner
05-20-20, 23:11
There are still a lot of SBs wiling to meet in the midst of this pandemic. Any stories good or bad out there? I've been hesitant.When the lock-down first started I was going to wait until they lifted it and gave the all-clear to socialize. However, I was under the assumption that the lock-down would only last a month or several weeks tops. Come to find out it could go on for months so I decided to take the chance and meet up with a couple of prospects.
Fortunately, its gone well & I have met up with a couple of decent prospects. I was surprised just how open they were to meeting up at my place or a quick coffee to go walk. Normally, I like to meet for a drink or dinner for the the first meet and greet but my recent potential Sb's were totally open to just coming over to my place. Mind you the risk of Covid is definitely real so keep that in mind, I can't claim that I'm being wise with meeting up some of these gals but it-is what it-is.
PussyPumper
05-29-20, 18:28
So much so that one hot cutie I was talking to on SA turned up a few weeks later on HX!
I did not pull the trigger as she seemed too easy. A red flag with me during quarantine!
Her SA rate was a bargain though. Less than half what she wants for an hour on HX.
https://www.humaniplex.com/profiles/Allie.Carter
SA handle was something like MusicalMiss - anyone see her?
JWalker350
05-30-20, 00:44
So much so that one hot cutie I was talking to on SA turned up a few weeks later on HX!
I did not pull the trigger as she seemed too easy. A red flag with me during quarantine!
Her SA rate was a bargain though. Less than half what she wants for an hour on HX.
https://www.humaniplex.com/profiles/Allie.Carter
SA handle was something like MusicalMiss - anyone see her?I did chat with her via SA on April but she disappeared after a few days.
So much so that one hot cutie I was talking to on SA turned up a few weeks later on HX!
I did not pull the trigger as she seemed too easy. A red flag with me during quarantine!
Her SA rate was a bargain though. Less than half what she wants for an hour on HX.
https://www.humaniplex.com/profiles/Allie.Carter
SA handle was something like MusicalMiss - anyone see her?Nope. Doesn't sound familiar but I've been slow. I fell into two hotties (so called instagram obsessed with 35 k followers each) so mo reason to find new ones. But the thrill of the search s always there.
PussyPumper
05-30-20, 02:41
I did chat with her via SA on April but she disappeared after a few days.As a sidekick of the well-known Frenchie.
PussyPumper
06-02-20, 01:45
I am not subscribed to SA right now, but I wonder how the new video feature, announced a few weeks ago, is working out?
I am assuming it is a disaster.
- Just what all the cam girls ordered.
- Very, very indiscreet. Would enables SBs to record you, which is a really, really dumb idea. There are organized and individual blackmailers out there!
- And just the whole idea of using video controlled / organized by SA! Give them more opportunities to ban us?
Enough from me. Any experiences / thoughts?
Pay to Play
06-02-20, 11:07
I am not subscribed to SA right now, but I wonder how the new video feature, announced a few weeks ago, is working out?
I am assuming it is a disaster.
- Just what all the cam girls ordered.
- Very, very indiscreet. Would enables SBs to record you, which is a really, really dumb idea. There are organized and individual blackmailers out there!
- And just the whole idea of using video controlled / organized by SA! Give them more opportunities to ban us?
Enough from me. Any experiences / thoughts?Long time subscriber and always looking for my new SB. Haven't noticed any change. Still have to weed through the scams which are plentiful but there are good ones to be had. Nice thing about SB's is your potential of BBFS is high. I usually confirm before meeting. Specially the young and dumb ones are easy. The downside of SB's is hosting. It is rare to find a SB who will host which for me means added expense for room. If you are that parionoid of being identified then being a SD is likely not your thing. Part of the process is getting to know the person and having a bit more of a relationship. If you are looking for a one and done fully anonymous then stick with escorts. They both have their positives. I personally like both depending on mood.
FingerLicking
06-02-20, 12:18
Long time subscriber and always looking for my new SB. Haven't noticed any change. Still have to weed through the scams which are plentiful but there are good ones to be had. Nice thing about SB's is your potential of BBFS is high. I usually confirm before meeting. Specially the young and dumb ones are easy. The downside of SB's is hosting. It is rare to find a SB who will host which for me means added expense for room. If you are that parionoid of being identified then being a SD is likely not your thing. Part of the process is getting to know the person and having a bit more of a relationship. If you are looking for a one and done fully anonymous then stick with escorts. They both have their positives. I personally like both depending on mood.I wouldn't even bother asking if they can host. Are you finding college SBs that are willing to meet below 500?
Pay to Play
06-02-20, 16:28
I wouldn't even bother asking if they can host. Are you finding college SBs that are willing to meet below 500?Yes. As I have said before, it takes a lot of sifting through the rubbish to find a good one. I have one in Escondido early 20's who hosts and a 19 year old in East County. 300 and 200 respectively both BBFS. The problem is that some of these girls have been told their ass is gold and worth big numbers. If they come back asking for 500+ I will either counter if I think it's worth a shot or just ghost. Amazing how many cover back after a few days agreeing to 300.
FingerLicking
06-02-20, 17:48
Yes. As I have said before, it takes a lot of sifting through the rubbish to find a good one. I have one in Escondido early 20's who hosts and a 19 year old in East County. 300 and 200 respectively both BBFS. The problem is that some of these girls have been told their ass is gold and worth big numbers. If they come back asking for 500+ I will either counter if I think it's worth a shot or just ghost. Amazing how many cover back after a few days agreeing to 300.Damn I need to put more effort in the next time I look LOL.
Pay to Play
06-10-20, 21:24
This one is a flake. Set a date to meet for coffee before going to hotel, never showed and has gone dark. She was giving me bad vibes before so no big loss.
https://www.seeking.com/member/e362ef0a-9a2d-4388-abe6-f8efaf5a495f
This is the problem with SA and other sites like it. Some women are there just to see what they could get and use it to flatter their self esteem. Also a lot of women currently using the line, "I'm not meeting anyone currently due to COVID, but if you help me now we can meet when this is all over". Of course that is another type of scam. Soon as you tell them you won't do any type of online or virtual arrangement, they block you.
Oh well, we keep hunting.
Pay to Play
06-13-20, 10:28
This one is a flake. Set a date to meet for coffee before going to hotel, never showed and has gone dark. She was giving me bad vibes before so no big loss.
https://www.seeking.com/member/e362ef0a-9a2d-4388-abe6-f8efaf5a495f
This is the problem with SA and other sites like it. Some women are there just to see what they could get and use it to flatter their self esteem. Also a lot of women currently using the line, "I'm not meeting anyone currently due to COVID, but if you help me now we can meet when this is all over". Of course that is another type of scam. Soon as you tell them you won't do any type of online or virtual arrangement, they block you.
Oh well, we keep hunting.I will amend my prior report on this one. She texts me out of blue and wanted to meet up. Since she can't host and I wasn't going to get a room, ended up doing a car date in and East County mall parking lot. Got large back seat with tinted windows. Ended up getting BBBJ and BBFS with splooge on my back seat for 200. She's cute and will repeat if convenient. Albeit she is a flake.
PussyPumper
06-15-20, 01:13
Local searches tend to cross the border. Noticed that several Spanish profiles prominently mention "Grecia" - Greece. Now the only way these ladies have visited Greece is with their bums. .
What interests me though is that SA seems to have no issue with trips to Greece. So long as they are in Spanish?
PussyPumper
06-15-20, 01:16
1-2 months ago there were a large number of cute young things wanting to meet up for very reasonable rates. More reasonable than before, and more "normal" girls, as they had lost jobs, etc, and needed money. Now that I am back on SA after a gap, those low hanging fruit seem fewer, now that restrictions are being eased?
Pay to Play
06-15-20, 11:19
1-2 months ago there were a large number of cute young things wanting to meet up for very reasonable rates. More reasonable than before, and more "normal" girls, as they had lost jobs, etc, and needed money. Now that I am back on SA after a gap, those low hanging fruit seem fewer, now that restrictions are being eased?There are still plenty to be had but there are a lot of woman also using COVID as an excuse to justify an online only arrangement with promises after things are better. These are scams. Don't fall for it. And for God's people stop paying ridiculous arrangement prices. I had a woman last week tell me nothing less then 800 per meet. 300 is usually my top and yields me more dates then I can take.
I wake up to 75 messages and 700 favorites. That website is becoming a plague of bots and south Americans selling pics.
FarFarAway
06-17-20, 15:16
I wake up to 75 messages and 700 favorites. That website is becoming a plague of bots and south Americans selling pics.You need to set up your profile the way I do, so it cannot be searched for. If you go to a girls' page, or if you favorite her or message her, she can see your profile. But otherwise, they can't find you. I started that originally b / c I have a SO and was nervous about being too 'out there', thinking a neighbor or someone could see my profile (even though that has high opsec also). I have always rolled that way, it has never hurt me that I can tell.
You need to set up your profile the way I do, so it cannot be searched for. If you go to a girls' page, or if you favorite her or message her, she can see your profile. But otherwise, they can't find you. I started that originally b / c I have a SO and was nervous about being too 'out there', thinking a neighbor or someone could see my profile (even though that has high opsec also). I have always rolled that way, it has never hurt me that I can tell.Indeed, sometimes I unhide my profile just to see and sure enough, 10's of likes from overseas profiles within a few hours, annoying. But one thing to keep in mind, you can only hide your profile if you paid for premium membership, and as soon as your membership expires, your profile goes back to public. A fucked up way to keep you paying for premium, some other website like secret benefits even charge you for every day you want you profile hidden.
FarFarAway
06-18-20, 13:36
Indeed, sometimes I unhide my profile just to see and sure enough, 10's of likes from overseas profiles within a few hours, annoying. But one thing to keep in mind, you can only hide your profile if you paid for premium membership, and as soon as your membership expires, your profile goes back to public. A fucked up way to keep you paying for premium, some other website like secret benefits even charge you for every day you want you profile hidden.Indeed you are correct. So, since I am not currently paid up (no point, I am stuck at home w / no excuses to get away from the SO to play), I deactivate my profile. The weird thing is, now and then I go back on, and you'll see some girls listed as having recently viewed your profile. IDK how that could be if it was truly deactivated by the procedures they claim. It's no big deal, they definitely can't message or favorite my deactivated profile. Perhaps they get listed there if they just click the link to your profile, like in a message, even if it is deactivated. BTW, I have two profiles. Both deactivated. When I am active, I can use one to check the profile of a girl who may have dropped off when I contacted her from the other profile. You don't have to be paid to do that. Working profiles w / a track record are useful. There are horror stories of guys getting their profiles deleted for one reason or another, and to get another one is a big hassle, making up a completely new sugar identity.
OcasianBoy
06-18-20, 21:13
There is a Father's Day discount of 25% off right now if anyone is interested. First time I have seen a discount on SA.
Pay to Play
06-18-20, 23:05
There is a Father's Day discount of 25% off right now if anyone is interested. First time I have seen a discount on SA.LOL, Father's Day discount to get a little on the side.
LOL, Father's Day discount to get a little on the side.I guess a SB sounds better than a noodle necklace haha.
Indeed you are correct. So, since I am not currently paid up (no point, I am stuck at home w / no excuses to get away from the SO to play), I deactivate my profile. The weird thing is, now and then I go back on, and you'll see some girls listed as having recently viewed your profile. IDK how that could be if it was truly deactivated by the procedures they claim. It's no big deal, they definitely can't message or favorite my deactivated profile. Perhaps they get listed there if they just click the link to your profile, like in a message, even if it is deactivated. BTW, I have two profiles. Both deactivated. When I am active, I can use one to check the profile of a girl who may have dropped off when I contacted her from the other profile. You don't have to be paid to do that. Working profiles w / a track record are useful. There are horror stories of guys getting their profiles deleted for one reason or another, and to get another one is a big hassle, making up a completely new sugar identity.Yep, got mine deleted, was a bit of pain to get a new one as I couldn't use my cc anymore, but buying google play cards on amazon and using them on the android app (sadly no iphone apps, not sure if it's apple refusing SA on their app list or something), works great and without problems. Additional plus is that it doesn't sign you up for auto payments by default and if my account info are stolen then my real name is nowhere there, even though I don't really care about my name being known, don't have a SO or anything. Got to love SA though, takes more work than HX but you can't beat a SB price for the value. I do still use HX sometimes though, there are times when it's nice to just not have to put any work in getting what you want, just a much more expensive habit that I can't afford too often unfortunately.
On another note, I'm seriously getting tired of the fake profiles using covid as an excuse, it's getting on my nerves, I just report all the ones that do that but still, what a waste of time, but there are still a few gems to be found there, be patient.
Pay to Play
06-19-20, 12:36
Yep, got mine deleted, was a bit of pain to get a new one as I couldn't use my cc anymore, but buying google play cards on amazon and using them on the android app (sadly no iphone apps, not sure if it's apple refusing SA on their app list or something), works great and without problems. Additional plus is that it doesn't sign you up for auto payments by default and if my account info are stolen then my real name is nowhere there, even though I don't really care about my name being known, don't have a SO or anything. Got to love SA though, takes more work than HX but you can't beat a SB price for the value. I do still use HX sometimes though, there are times when it's nice to just not have to put any work in getting what you want, just a much more expensive habit that I can't afford too often unfortunately.
On another note, I'm seriously getting tired of the fake profiles using covid as an excuse, it's getting on my nerves, I just report all the ones that do that but still, what a waste of time, but there are still a few gems to be found there, be patient.Couldn't agree more. Sometimes you just want an easy quicky with a new face and SA isn't that usually, albeit exceptions. I use to report scams but also got banned multiple times. I have since stopped reporting and haven't been banned since. Not sure if that's the reason or SA has just gotten more relaxed. At first I was careful to not discuss $$ or be too upfront with looking for pussy, but now I just throw it out there and still not banned. If I come across someone I don't like, I just block them and nice on.
FingerLicking
06-19-20, 14:24
Couldn't agree more. Sometimes you just want an easy quicky with a new face and SA isn't that usually, albeit exceptions. I use to report scams but also got banned multiple times. I have since stopped reporting and haven't been banned since. Not sure if that's the reason or SA has just gotten more relaxed. At first I was careful to not discuss $$ or be too upfront with looking for pussy, but now I just throw it out there and still not banned. If I come across someone I don't like, I just block them and nice on.I remember I got banned for being up front and I was totally confused as to why. Isn't this what SA is for? I appealed and got un-banned. I try to move the conversation off the platform as quickly as possible when I was still using it but I guess things have changed.
FarFarAway
06-19-20, 16:17
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FYI, none of the girls on SA are non pros, they are there because they are selling pussy. They may delude themselves that you are their SD and you can encourage that but you shouldn't delude yourself.
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Pay to Play
06-22-20, 10:33
I remember I got banned for being up front and I was totally confused as to why. Isn't this what SA is for? I appealed and got un-banned. I try to move the conversation off the platform as quickly as possible when I was still using it but I guess things have changed.Basically my tactic is to not piss people off. Don't cast stones. If I see something I don't like, just keep moving. Reporting frauds only serves to get you on the radar which is how you get banned. If they ask for any money before hand, keep moving. If they want to meet in public first, then get paid before pussy time, keep moving. If they just want to "get to know each other online first", keep moving. If they don't want to meet because COVID, keep moving. If they need money for an Uber, then keep moving. Those are all common indicators of scams designed to separate you from your money.
Poltergeist
06-22-20, 12:50
Basically my tactic is to not piss people off. Don't cast stones. If I see something I don't like, just keep moving. Reporting frauds only serves to get you on the radar which is how you get banned. If they ask for any money before hand, keep moving. If they want to meet in public first, then get paid before pussy time, keep moving. If they just want to "get to know each other online first", keep moving. If they don't want to meet because COVID, keep moving. If they need money for an Uber, then keep moving. Those are all common indicators of scams designed to separate you from your money.I don't have a problem promising a little gas $, or babysitter, or whatever, I just don't give it in advance. Only at the M&G. Some of these girls are really on the ragged edge. But we're talking like $20. If they want it sent online, yes that's a scam. Some guys are set up to send an Uber for a girl, that is too exposed for my taste.
Pay to Play
06-22-20, 16:49
This one is a little high strung but cute thin tall thing. She was willing to host place in Hillcrest. BBFS, for 3. 5. I almost didn't go because my Spidey sense said scam. But turns out not a scammer just a little strange. No DATY, BBBJ, and BBFS. I was in and out in 20 and that was plenty of time. Nevertheless, YMMV.
https://www.seeking.com/member/a7ff6171-5f2f-4ce0-bb6c-c171e8858ebd
Has anyone tried victoriamilan.com? I tried Ashley Madison for a while, but that site sucks. I'm just looking to see if anyone here has had any success with victoriamilan.com. Thanks.
PussyPumper
06-23-20, 01:14
Has anyone tried victoriamilan.com? I tried Ashley Madison for a while, but that site sucks. I'm just looking to see if anyone here has had any success with victoriamilan.com. Thanks.
SA are totally arbitrary with regard to rules / banning people, so I am interested to know of any viable alternatives.
As for this VM site, online reviews say it is a scam, similar to AM - basically fake profiles.
https://www.trustpilot.com/review/www.victoriamilan.com
How about AFF? - What is the scene there these days?
AM is nothing but a scam.
PussyPumper
06-24-20, 02:07
This one is a little high strung but cute thin tall thing. She was willing to host place in Hillcrest. BBFS, for 3. 5. I almost didn't go because my Spidey sense said scam. But turns out not a scammer just a little strange. No DATY, BBBJ, and BBFS. I was in and out in 20 and that was plenty of time. Nevertheless, YMMV.
https://www.seeking.com/member/a7ff6171-5f2f-4ce0-bb6c-c171e8858ebdI talked to this woman multiple times over several months, over a year ago. Says management, but was also a model?
She first approached me last year, asking for a ppm of $2 k!
I arranged several dates with her, but she always flaked.
It was clear from her messages that she had issues. Sometimes incoherent, and could not remember things.
On the other hand, she had great looks and body, and a place of her own.
Pay to Play
06-24-20, 10:24
I talked to this woman multiple times over several months, over a year ago. Says management, but was also a model?
She first approached me last year, asking for a ppm of $2 k!
I arranged several dates with her, but she always flaked.
It was clear from her messages that she had issues. Sometimes incoherent, and could not remember things.
On the other hand, she had great looks and body, and a place of her own.She is a flake and strange AF. An OK fuck but won't repeat. Better options. If you just want a quick BBFS, she got the bill.
She is a flake and strange AF. An OK fuck but won't repeat. Better options. If you just want a quick BBFS, she got the bill.I tried her out recently. She's a bit thicker than I prefer. I wouldn't call her thin. A reasonable bmi for her height but not a model for sure. Well. Unless you like Kate Upton. She smokes and provides rushed BBFS. I kinda regret it now, she feels high volume.
More specifically, when you talk to her she seems like a reasonable competent adult. But she currently hosts out of a crappy motel room and she smokes. She also sort of vacillates between what seems like a decent normal person to a low class hooker once the clothes come off. With fake moans, "OMG I came" after 30 seconds with her vag barely warm, and she rushes you. Tijuana hookers are often better IMO. Anyways I probably won't repeat either.
FingerLicking
06-24-20, 13:22
I forgot how squeamish some of these girls are. I have had two agree to an arrangement via text but ghost when I try to setup a m&g.
GfEnthusiast
06-24-20, 13:59
She is a flake and strange AF. An OK fuck but won't repeat. Better options. If you just want a quick BBFS, she got the bill.Saw her and agree on her being a little strange but was friendly enough. BBBJ was on point though and she had skills. BBFS was had but nothing memorable and there is no cip.
FarFarAway
06-24-20, 14:21
I forgot how squeamish some of these girls are. I have had two agree to an arrangement via text but ghost when I try to setup a m&g.It's easy to message electronically. Even when I M&G a girl, before trying to set up FC, I'd say 75% of times, they don't show up (that's w / the under 25 crowd). It is quite a different thing to meet someone, even in a public place, compared to texting or even talking by phone. You'll waste a huge amount of time and energy if you don't meet up first (even if your plan is to take it private once it is established that each of you is interested.
Saw her and agree on her being a little strange but was friendly enough. BBBJ was on point though and she had skills. BBFS was had but nothing memorable and there is no cip.I saw her last year. She lived at a place in Pb with no furniture besides a mattress on a floor. We actually lived in the same complex. She gave me her business card and told me where she worked. We went to the same university so we talked about that. DATY, BBFS, BBBJ, BBFS and a shower. Then I left. She never asked for a donation, only a ride which I declined. Texted me a week or so later and her faced was all messed up from falling and she was in the hospital. Then she disappeared.
Last night a POT texted me out of nowhere. My subscription ran out a few months ago, and have checked the site periodically. It was the typical hit and run text, I responded about in about 30 minutes, then no response. This morning she gets back to me. A few nothing texts, I checked my SA account and can't find anything although I do vaguely remember her profile name. I start to push for a meet up and we agree to meet. Then she wants to know about ppm or monthly allowance, ppm is my call so now negotiations start. Immediately she wants $1500/ mo for 3 meetups, I call her out and said we agreed to start ppm. So it's 500, I counter with 200 and she immediately says she'll do 300. I hold the line. She complains and wants 3. I offer 250 and she said she'll get back to me. I told her don't wait too long because I'll make other plans. I can't find her profile to give you guys a link, I'm still searching. Lesson: don't delete SA messages too fast. Don't overpay, there's plenty of options out there.
JWalker350
06-28-20, 22:37
Last night a POT texted me out of nowhere. My subscription ran out a few months ago, and have checked the site periodically. It was the typical hit and run text, I responded about in about 30 minutes, then no response. This morning she gets back to me. A few nothing texts, I checked my SA account and can't find anything although I do vaguely remember her profile name. I start to push for a meet up and we agree to meet. Then she wants to know about ppm or monthly allowance, ppm is my call so now negotiations start. Immediately she wants $1500/ mo for 3 meetups, I call her out and said we agreed to start ppm. So it's 500, I counter with 200 and she immediately says she'll do 300. I hold the line. She complains and wants 3. I offer 250 and she said she'll get back to me. I told her don't wait too long because I'll make other plans. I can't find her profile to give you guys a link, I'm still searching. Lesson: don't delete SA messages too fast. Don't overpay, there's plenty of options out there.Does her phone area code is 213?
Jshaftoe2019
07-01-20, 02:06
Does her phone area code is 213?619 area code, I believe.
Does her phone area code is 213?No, that's not it.
OcasianBoy
07-09-20, 20:14
https://www.seeking.com/member/0fbc14d5-39a8-4333-bbd4-f81635e3dff5
Here is a pro hosting if anyone is interested.
https://www.seeking.com/member/0fbc14d5-39a8-4333-bbd4-f81635e3dff5
Here is a pro hosting if anyone is interested.She demanded $500 a meet. I declined, she is too thick in her pictures. Plus if she's a pro that probably means BBFS is never on the menu.
Cfs with a heavy pro. Down in Tijuana that was 80 bucks all day everyday, $40-$50 if you take a street girl. That option is still open I guess for those who already caught and recovered from covid.
OcasianBoy
07-11-20, 08:12
https://www.seeking.com/member/516534be-6959-41a5-a1f8-87548eab424d
This girl looks pretty hot. She basically says faze for $ in her profile. Anyone seen her before?
Pay to Play
07-13-20, 11:00
https://www.seeking.com/member/516534be-6959-41a5-a1f8-87548eab424d
This girl looks pretty hot. She basically says faze for $ in her profile. Anyone seen her before?That profile is far from UTR. It screams 500+ expectation. If she is real (which is questionable) she is going to be costly. Only way to find out is start talking. If she asks you go send money or transition to another site she is scamming. If TGTBT, she likely is. Not to say unicorns don't exist and I have one now, but they don't last. Let us know.
That profile is far from UTR. It screams 500+ expectation. If she is real (which is questionable) she is going to be costly. Only way to find out is start talking. If she asks you go send money or transition to another site she is scamming. If TGTBT, she likely is. Not to say unicorns don't exist and I have one now, but they don't last. Let us know.She is calling herself Shannel Shy, that sounds like an escort name as real SBs would not put a last name anywhere, even a fake one, from my experience. I feel like she is real and will charge per the hour, which is not what I look for with SBs, but to each its own.
That profile is far from UTR. It screams 500+ expectation. If she is real (which is questionable) she is going to be costly. What are you keying on to get her 'expected value' so to speak? I mean I wouldn't pay $500, there are much hotter girls by my standards in that price range.
OcasianBoy
07-16-20, 00:36
https://www.seeking.com/member/cafd93c6-b801-45f8-8f8c-ed090893cef4
Pageant contestant here. Anybody want to tap this a $$?
PussyPumper
07-16-20, 02:36
https://www.seeking.com/member/cafd93c6-b801-45f8-8f8c-ed090893cef4
Pageant contestant here. Anybody want to tap this a $$?Well past 21.
https://www.seeking.com/member/cafd93c6-b801-45f8-8f8c-ed090893cef4
Pageant contestant here. Anybody want to tap this a $$?I just checked the list of "miss congeniality" from 2002 - 2010. There is no winner by the first name of Samantha.
Can someone please call the WH Hotline and ask DT, because that's well within the time frame.
I just checked the list of "miss congeniality" from 2002 - 2010. There is no winner by the first name of Samantha.
Can someone please call the WH Hotline and ask DT, because that's well within the time frame.Not sure if this is TIC, but it's doubtful she'd use her real name in her profile. Only way to tell would prob be to compare her profile pics to pics of all miss congeniality winners from 1991/92 to 2015/16 (all miss america contestants must be between 17 and 25, and her real age based on SA profile could *PROB* be anywhere from 30-45 - I know it's unlikely her real age is lower than what's listed on her profile, but possible if she wants to throw people off the scent of looking up her miss america profile).
Has anyone gone Diamond? Is it worth it? I personally don't see any difference than a regular premium, but I haven't gone so I don't know.
OcasianBoy
07-19-20, 14:48
https://www.seeking.com/member/070baa62-7b28-4d02-a83b-479b39cabb61
This 19 yo says she's into older men and does ppm. If you guys want to go for it and report back, that would be great.
SeaTownGuy
07-19-20, 16:03
https://www.seeking.com/member/7e4536ed-30cf-4155-a373-b3d86f64ba14
IG / onlyfans model, hostess and stripper. $$$$$ for meeting. 3 x that for more.
Jshaftoe2019
07-19-20, 19:20
Has anyone gone Diamond? Is it worth it? I personally don't see any difference than a regular premium, but I haven't gone so I don't know.I have not. And at $250 a month?! I'd rather put in the hours and find a new person I can see for that much.
This one wanted $1 k for a night LOL.
https://www.seeking.com/member/266e45a9-c594-469b-b865-3c104a93fdb2
Pay to Play
07-20-20, 11:31
https://www.seeking.com/member/070baa62-7b28-4d02-a83b-479b39cabb61
This 19 yo says she's into older men and does ppm. If you guys want to go for it and report back, that would be great.I got her to agree to 400 ppm, but she can't host which adds another 100 to the day. For that with what appears to be pics that are TGTBT, not worth it. My experience says ripoff. Betting you pay that and you will be lucky to get CFS. More likely an upsell.
PussyPumper
07-21-20, 03:03
This one wanted $1 k for a night LOL.
https://www.seeking.com/member/266e45a9-c594-469b-b865-3c104a93fdb2Overweight, slack tits, so-so looks.
Usually women have some inkling of their "worth" as they say.
PussyPumper
07-21-20, 03:06
https://www.seeking.com/member/7e4536ed-30cf-4155-a373-b3d86f64ba14
IG / onlyfans model, hostess and stripper. $$$$$ for meeting. 3 x that for more.Already moved on. Lists 3 locations. None of them San Diego. But including Vegas and LA.
I usually don't even finish reading profiles like this. Block or just ignore.
PussyPumper
07-21-20, 03:09
https://www.seeking.com/member/070baa62-7b28-4d02-a83b-479b39cabb61
This 19 yo says she's into older men and does ppm. If you guys want to go for it and report back, that would be great.Says college student, but is not a verified college member.
Looks more like 29 than 19.
Focus on the real rather than pretend students.
Pay to Play
07-21-20, 09:56
Here is an example of women who are using COVID to run their scam and separate you from your money. Now I'm not sure who would actually start sending these women money just for the promise of something online, but to each their own. Now when I see these type of responses I just block their profile.
https://www.seeking.com/member/f739acdd-88ed-4291-bae4-842764a7e52e
FarFarAway
07-21-20, 15:55
Here is an example of women who are using COVID to run their scam and separate you from your money. Now I'm not sure who would actually start sending these women money just for the promise of something online, but to each their own. Now when I see these type of responses I just block their profile.
https://www.seeking.com/member/f739acdd-88ed-4291-bae4-842764a7e52eHun? A tip-off for a pro every time.
I haved used sa for a few arrangements but is there any other solid sights?
I haved used sa for a few arrangements but is there any other solid sights?I've used Secret Benefits for a while, complete rip-off, full of bots, you use credits for each girl you want to message, so for each bot you contact that's money you waste. With SA, for every 50-100 messages I sent I get 1-2 good POTs, if you do that on Secret Benefits it will cost you quite a lot. I haven't tried other sites but most people seem to agree that SA is the only good one unfortunately.
SeductiveNomad
07-23-20, 17:45
I haved used sa for a few arrangements but is there any other solid sightsI heard of the site called WhatsYourPrice.
I been looking at it and it seems most girls from SA and other adult sites are on there. That site has potential but I haven't payed for it yet. I just may.
I heard of the site called WhatsYourPrice.
I been looking at it and it seems most girls from SA and other adult sites are on there. That site has potential but I haven't payed for it yet. I just may.What's Your Price is basically the same thing as Secret Benefits. It uses credits that get blown through really quick. SA is the cheapest option for sure.
I believe it's Maduro's evil plan to take over SA & attack us via Cyber space. Yup, that is IT.
Member #6555
07-25-20, 14:21
I wish SA still did weekly memberships. I used to do that back in the day, I think it was like 29.99 for 7 days.
This one wants $3 k / mo to meet once a week. WTF is up with these girls and their delusional arrangements.
https://www.seeking.com/member/4202a5eb-59a9-4c57-b6bf-f6772b1bfe82
PussyPumper
07-27-20, 12:37
Very pretty girl, pleasant, she delivers. Not the cheapest, but not outrageous either. Been mentioned several times on here.
EndlessOne
07-29-20, 23:26
Hi Gents. I'm a lurker here so excuse my poor post count. I believe I have indeed secured a potential baby. She was quick to give me her IG which gave me the ability to reverse search and find her Twitter account (uses the same username for shame) and find her actual name which then lead me to her personal Facebook. I'm not a creep but with the line of work I do it's just so easy to find information on anyone these days! And it's obviously better to vet the person I will be giving my time to. I have a meet and greet with her this Friday and I have already bargained a PPM. Four Benjamins each. Are there any tips one can give for a noob such as myself? Do we have to negotiate yes / no's when playing doctor? Would it be appropriate to fondle each other to ensure the other is not from law enforcement before moving forward to the final destination? I plan to sugar this one for awhile at least and she indicates I would be her first however can't say you can trust the word of mouth these days. I seek the advise from the masters of this game, please bless me with your grand wisdom and I will post the account in due time if all goes well and any other potential SBs I have encountered.
EndlessOne
07-30-20, 00:47
So I've had some interesting conversations. I decided to bite to see what the craze was with this online exclusive arrangement that all these women mention on this site. I let them give the pitch and gave them my honest answer and look at the backlash. This sweet human being right here wanting my money turned into some person taunting me to slob on their knob like corn on the cob! Steer away gents! See the conversation of the disturbing creature in it's native environment.
https://www.seeking.com/member/f4fa760c-1aa7-46af-888f-cdc436ae6ef8
DanteHaversham
07-30-20, 14:42
So I've had some interesting conversations. I decided to bite to see what the craze was with this online exclusive arrangement that all these women mention on this site. I let them give the pitch and gave them my honest answer and look at the backlash. This sweet human being right here wanting my money turned into some person taunting me to slob on their knob like corn on the cob! Steer away gents! See the conversation of the disturbing creature in it's native environment.
https://www.seeking.com/member/f4fa760c-1aa7-46af-888f-cdc436ae6ef8That's hilarious.
FarFarAway
07-30-20, 15:43
Hi Gents. I'm a lurker here so excuse my poor post count. I believe I have indeed secured a potential baby. She was quick to give me her IG which gave me the ability to reverse search and find her Twitter account (uses the same username for shame) and find her actual name which then lead me to her personal Facebook. I'm not a creep but with the line of work I do it's just so easy to find information on anyone these days! And it's obviously better to vet the person I will be giving my time to. I have a meet and greet with her this Friday and I have already bargained a PPM. Four Benjamins each. Are there any tips one can give for a noob such as myself? Do we have to negotiate yes / no's when playing doctor? Would it be appropriate to fondle each other to ensure the other is not from law enforcement before moving forward to the final destination? I plan to sugar this one for awhile at least and she indicates I would be her first however can't say you can trust the word of mouth these days. I seek the advise from the masters of this game, please bless me with your grand wisdom and I will post the account in due time if all goes well and any other potential SBs I have encounteredYou need to spend all your time between now and the meeting reading the Richmond, VA, sugar thread, and the archive thereof. That is the de facto national thread, it isn't just limited to local info.
OcasianBoy
07-30-20, 21:49
Very pretty girl, pleasant, she delivers. Not the cheapest, but not outrageous either. Been mentioned several times on here.This girl is kind of hot but has a little gps. She initially wanted 6 Benz but got her down to 4 Benz. She says that's the lowest for covered everything. I remembered someone said she accepted 350 before but not sure.
So I've had some interesting conversations. I decided to bite to see what the craze was with this online exclusive arrangement that all these women mention on this site. I let them give the pitch and gave them my honest answer and look at the backlash. This sweet human being right here wanting my money turned into some person taunting me to slob on their knob like corn on the cob! Steer away gents! See the conversation of the disturbing creature in it's native environment.
https://www.seeking.com/member/f4fa760c-1aa7-46af-888f-cdc436ae6ef8LOL.
Too bad she's gone, maybe got deleted or blocked. Either way, great troll man .
ArrogantBstrd
08-01-20, 15:07
Hi Gents. I'm a lurker here so excuse my poor post count. I believe I have indeed secured a potential baby. She was quick to give me her IG which gave me the ability to reverse search and find her Twitter account (uses the same username for shame) and find her actual name which then lead me to her personal Facebook. I'm not a creep but with the line of work I do it's just so easy to find information on anyone these days! And it's obviously better to vet the person I will be giving my time to. I have a meet and greet with her this Friday and I have already bargained a PPM. Four Benjamins each. Are there any tips one can give for a noob such as myself? Do we have to negotiate yes / no's when playing doctor? Would it be appropriate to fondle each other to ensure the other is not from law enforcement before moving forward to the final destination? I plan to sugar this one for awhile at least and she indicates I would be her first however can't say you can trust the word of mouth these days. I seek the advise from the masters of this game, please bless me with your grand wisdom and I will post the account in due time if all goes well and any other potential SBs I have encountered.A real, genuine SB is like having a GF that only sees you on good days. No emotional, petty arguments or any of the BS that comes along with trying to maintain a relationship. Use your own intuition to determine your relationship. I've had a few "PPM" arrangements where I only really paid every other meet.
As for PPM or any other arrangement, everything should be discussed first. Bare? Covered? CIM? There should be no surprises. They want $$. Some really just want to get fucked. LOL.
Oh, and if they call you "babe" or "hun" and use lip emojis, they're likely pros.
Good Luck!
Bump of one of my old posts.
To clarify here, 200-300 seems to work well. I've had quite a few sb's happy with 200-250, more will accept 300, most 400, nearly all at 500. GPS is a problem, SD's need to learn how to negotiate or move on. There are plenty of sb's out there happy with 100+ per hour.
JWalker350
08-02-20, 00:18
Bump of one of my old posts.I always negotiate for 200-250 range. We have to pay almost 100 for the room on the top of the ppm.
Are there any tips one can give for a noob such as myself? Do we have to negotiate yes / no's when playing doctor? Would it be appropriate to fondle each other to ensure the other is not from law enforcement before moving forward to the final destination? IOn the first question, I have a different take on this than most guys on here. I never negotiate "yes / no's when playing doctor. " I treat it like a date, or at least like a date in the old days before everyone got so politically correct. Treat them nice, don't talk about sex overtly, just get her to the FC and gradually escalate the action. I have not met a girl on SA yet that would not allow DFK and DATY. Only a couple that insisted on covered blow job (interestingly, one of those was OK with BBFS, she just had some sort of phobia about bare dick in her mouth!) Lots of girls want a cover for FS, but lots of others are OK with BBFS. I just go after what I want, and if they have limits it's up to them to speak up. Personally, I think a lot of them have a hard time speaking up in the heat of the moment when they are naked and have a horny male coming after them. I think a lot of those girls would have an easier time setting limits if you asked them what they were comfortable with before the clothes came off. So why give them the opportunity? You know what you want, go after it. I have found SA girls surprisingly compliant. Never give them any money until you have fucked them. It's kind of like tipping a waitress after the meal, it incentivizes them to provide good service. I actually try to avoid talking about any specific amount of money before hand at all. You would be surprised how many of these girls will let you fuck them first and then just slip something in their purse. I know I am surprised every time that works, but it works pretty often. There is a high correlation between girls who will do this and girls who don't act like pros in bed, so I am always looking for them.
On the second question, about law enforcement, I think I am with the majority here in believing you really have nothing to worry about. LE has bigger fish to fry. If you are a little bit discreet in your communications they really have no evidence on you.
And if you follow my favorite M. O. , I don't think you are actually doing anything illegal. Meet them for lunch or a drink. Hit on them. Make some general references about how you can take them places and help them out, no dollar signs attached. Suggest you go to a hotel. They know what is going to happen at the hotel, you don't have to draw them a picture. I like to bring a bottle of wine and chat for a while at the hotel to put them at ease. Then start making out, and escalate. Take her clothes off. Put her through the paces any way you please. Slip cash in her purse afterward. What laws have I broken, your honor?
EndlessOne
08-06-20, 23:23
Thank you DogBert77 for the additional insight. So gentlemen, my first potential was actually a Pro (hope I used this term correctly) after we got more into discussion during the meet and greet lunch. She indicated her mother was part of that lifestyle and that's all she really knew. Her "female cousin" has suggested the idea for her to look for a sugar type relationship. It sounded more like a pimp to me when I made a joke about her cousin being one since she kept referring to her "cousin" every time she was absent when trying to get on the phone with her. Unfortunately another user ArrogantBstrd was actually spot on, she kept calling me babe and using lip emojis when addressing me through text. She is young (18), ready to meet, can host, and does not appear to have Covid symptoms. Pictures are highly accurate and she dresses exactly as advertised. No anal, no bare, and no cum on face due to eyelashes. She accepts PPM but is looking for an allowance. If this is up your alley, then good luck gents.
https://www.seeking.com/member/940bd3fa-c964-4228-82f1-18bd2fb46d28
On the first question, I have a different take on this than most guys on here. I never negotiate "yes / no's when playing doctor. " I treat it like a date, or at least like a date in the old days before everyone got so politically correct. Treat them nice, don't talk about sex overtly, just get her to the FC and gradually escalate the action. I have not met a girl on SA yet that would not allow DFK and DATY. Only a couple that insisted on covered blow job (interestingly, one of those was OK with BBFS, she just had some sort of phobia about bare dick in her mouth!) Lots of girls want a cover for FS, but lots of others are OK with BBFS. I just go after what I want, and if they have limits it's up to them to speak up. Personally, I think a lot of them have a hard time speaking up in the heat of the moment when they are naked and have a horny male coming after them. I think a lot of those girls would have an easier time setting limits if you asked them what they were comfortable with before the clothes came off. So why give them the opportunity? You know what you want, go after it. I have found SA girls surprisingly compliant. Never give them any money until you have fucked them. It's kind of like tipping a waitress after the meal, it incentivizes them to provide good service. I actually try to avoid talking about any specific amount of money before hand at all. You would be surprised how many of these girls will let you fuck them first and then just slip something in their purse. I know I am surprised every time that works, but it works pretty often. There is a high correlation between girls who will do this and girls who don't act like pros in bed, so I am always looking for them.
On the second question, about law enforcement, I think I am with the majority here in believing you really have nothing to worry about. LE has bigger fish to fry. If you are a little bit discreet in your communications they really have no evidence on you.
And if you follow my favorite M. O. , I don't think you are actually doing anything illegal. Meet them for lunch or a drink. Hit on them. Make some general references about how you can take them places and help them out, no dollar signs attached. Suggest you go to a hotel. They know what is going to happen at the hotel, you don't have to draw them a picture. I like to bring a bottle of wine and chat for a while at the hotel to put them at ease. Then start making out, and escalate. Take her clothes off. Put her through the paces any way you please. Slip cash in her purse afterward. What laws have I broken, your honor?
NewHobby13
08-07-20, 20:15
She has definitely gone "pro". Looks like she has just started but she can still be found other places outside of SA. I messaged on another site and she definitely uses the typical terms (I. E. Babe).
https://www.humaniplex.com/profiles/Scarlett_angel
Thank you DogBert77 for the additional insight. So gentlemen, my first potential was actually a Pro (hope I used this term correctly) after we got more into discussion during the meet and greet lunch. She indicated her mother was part of that lifestyle and that's all she really knew. Her "female cousin" has suggested the idea for her to look for a sugar type relationship. It sounded more like a pimp to me when I made a joke about her cousin being one since she kept referring to her "cousin" every time she was absent when trying to get on the phone with her. Unfortunately another user ArrogantBstrd was actually spot on, she kept calling me babe and using lip emojis when addressing me through text. She is young (18), ready to meet, can host, and does not appear to have Covid symptoms. Pictures are highly accurate and she dresses exactly as advertised. No anal, no bare, and no cum on face due to eyelashes. She accepts PPM but is looking for an allowance. If this is up your alley, then good luck gents.
https://www.seeking.com/member/940bd3fa-c964-4228-82f1-18bd2fb46d28
Thank you DogBert77 for the additional insight. So gentlemen, my first potential was actually a Pro (hope I used this term correctly) after we got more into discussion during the meet and greet lunch. She indicated her mother was part of that lifestyle and that's all she really knew. Her "female cousin" has suggested the idea for her to look for a sugar type relationship. It sounded more like a pimp to me when I made a joke about her cousin being one since she kept referring to her "cousin" every time she was absent when trying to get on the phone with her. Unfortunately another user ArrogantBstrd was actually spot on, she kept calling me babe and using lip emojis when addressing me through text. She is young (18), ready to meet, can host, and does not appear to have Covid symptoms. Pictures are highly accurate and she dresses exactly as advertised. No anal, no bare, and no cum on face due to eyelashes. She accepts PPM but is looking for an allowance. If this is up your alley, then good luck gents.
https://www.seeking.com/member/940bd3fa-c964-4228-82f1-18bd2fb46d28NewHobby, I think you will have many recurrences of this experience. If you ask a girl for a menu and prices, you are only ever going to get a girl who has a menu. In other words, some variety of a pro, semi-pro, UTR, etc. My way takes more time, but it allows you to find the true gems and get the best possible service from them. The results have been worth the effort for me. I realize this is a minority view, just my two cents.
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