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Tennis Nut
08-25-18, 11:03
https://www.seeking.com/member/252ff093-2b51-48f2-89b8-f8265496b6a3
She got right to the point by texting and saying she does not want public dates. She's down for intimate, NSA dates for $1,000 for two hours. I countered with $250. She countered with $1,000. I asked if she has been getting that much on a regular basis and she said yes. I said, "Wow, you must be really amazing. " She tried to sign off, but I asked how much if we could meet in the middle. Se said she would accept $500 for an hour. I asked, "How about $125 for 15 minutes?" She said she would accept $250 for a BJ. I said, "That's a lot of money for a blowjob! Would I get to come in your mouth?" She signed off and ghosted me.
I love messing with them when I know it's not going anywhere.
https://www.seeking.com/member/252ff093-2b51-48f2-89b8-f8265496b6a3
She got right to the point by texting and saying she does not want public dates. She's down for intimate, NSA dates for $1,000 for two hours. I countered with $250. She countered with $1,000. I asked if she has been getting that much on a regular basis and she said yes. I said, "Wow, you must be really amazing. " She tried to sign off, but I asked how much if we could meet in the middle. Se said she would accept $500 for an hour. I asked, "How about $125 for 15 minutes?" She said she would accept $250 for a BJ. I said, "That's a lot of money for a blowjob! Would I get to come in your mouth?" She signed off and ghosted me.
I love messing with them when I know it's not going anywhere.This chick has filmed a few scenes with CastingCouch-HD. You can find one here: https://www.pornhub.com/view_video.php?viewkey=ph58b3c122124e8.
I first spoke to her about a year ago & recognized her right away. She was married at the time. Told me her husband was aware of her SA activity & cool with it. Maybe not, as her profile now says she's single.
Anyway, at that time her first demand was $500/ meet. I told her the most I'd ever offered was $200. We met in the middle at $350.
Only saw her once.
Blue Gecko
08-25-18, 16:06
She does porn if that helps: https://www.pornhub.com/pornstar/christy-love.
I'm guessing the porn star rates make more sense.
https://www.seeking.com/member/252ff093-2b51-48f2-89b8-f8265496b6a3
She got right to the point by texting and saying she does not want public dates. She's down for intimate, NSA dates for $1,000 for two hours. I countered with $250. She countered with $1,000. I asked if she has been getting that much on a regular basis and she said yes. I said, "Wow, you must be really amazing. " She tried to sign off, but I asked how much if we could meet in the middle. Se said she would accept $500 for an hour. I asked, "How about $125 for 15 minutes?" She said she would accept $250 for a BJ. I said, "That's a lot of money for a blowjob! Would I get to come in your mouth?" She signed off and ghosted me.
I love messing with them when I know it's not going anywhere.
Tennis Nut
08-25-18, 20:04
She does porn if that helps: https://www.pornhub.com/pornstar/christy-love.
I'm guessing the porn star rates make more sense.All the more reason to not give her my business. For $1,000 I expect to be her first, ever!
HippyHippyShak
08-26-18, 03:08
All the more reason to not give her my business. For $1,000 I expect to be her first, ever!Haha I never knew, I did a MNG with her, I walked.
HippyHippyShak
08-26-18, 11:52
All the more reason to not give her my business. For $1,000 I expect to be her first, ever!For the curious.
https://www.ohmibodworld.com/christy_love/
Tennis Nut
08-27-18, 12:03
I exchanged some messages with this one. She's very nice, but said her previous guy spoiled her. He paid her $5,000 per month to spend every other weekend with her and to take her on occasional trips.
AND SHE'S NOT EVEN HOT! (But it looks like she has phenomenal--as in close to perfect--tits!
https://www.seeking.com/member/0be7875e-96a8-4752-96a9-eedbf69b426a
Can you believe it!
I told her she was out of my league and good luck. (Actually, I wasn't interested in her, I was just playing along to see if I could get more pictures out of her. No luck.).
SDMonger69
08-28-18, 22:02
I exchanged some messages with this one. She's very nice, but said her previous guy spoiled her. He paid her $5,000 per month to spend every other weekend with her and to take her on occasional trips.
AND SHE'S NOT EVEN HOT! (But it looks like she has phenomenal--as in close to perfect--tits!
https://www.seeking.com/member/0be7875e-96a8-4752-96a9-eedbf69b426a
Can you believe it!
I told her she was out of my league and good luck. (Actually, I wasn't interested in her, I was just playing along to see if I could get more pictures out of her. No luck.).I call BS. I don't think she would have ended that type of arrangement or maybe HE ended it?
JohnnyLovesIt
08-29-18, 10:49
For the curious.
https://www.ohmibodworld.com/christy_love/Thanks for the information. I saved her profile but never contacted her. I've seen the Christy Love pornos before but didn't make the connection. She takes anal like a champ and I love her tits. One hour is all I would need.
OcasianBoy
08-29-18, 20:34
Jennifer white is hosting if anyone is interested.
https://www.seeking.com/member/2b1d1b40-4df3-4b9a-9d0b-e56ae193cce1
Met up with this young cutie. She's located in Talmadge, can't host, doesn't do car stuff, and isn't mobile. Worth the hassle of picking up though. Curvy, not fat, nice tits. Everything covered but she gave me multiple pops for $. We chatted about random things, she was actually fun to talk to. Treat her right fellas.
https://www.seeking.com/member/46e37556-9274-4346-b8a5-33fdf522d920
Jennifer white is hosting if anyone is interested.
https://www.seeking.com/member/2b1d1b40-4df3-4b9a-9d0b-e56ae193cce1Profile is gone already, are you sure that was her? I find her really gorgeous.
OcasianBoy
08-30-18, 19:42
Profile is gone already, are you sure that was her? I find her really gorgeous.Yes it's her and she is all booked up.
Had been messaging with this new one.
https://www.seeking.com/member/7b7ad98d-252a-41b9-b012-6937c027717a
She makes it sound interesting and then hits me with the "prefer online benefits" WTF is that? But she'll grace me her presence at a fancy dinner for 200/ date but will be going home immediately after because it's too dangerous to hang out together.
I wasted some of her time playing up to this bs before letting her know there are lots of POT out there willing to have a nice time out for zero dinero.
DanteHaversham
09-06-18, 16:36
https://www.seeking.com/messages/inbox/799fa719-c140-4f70-aaea-43c9d736fd33
This one seems like a pro. Also tries to renogotiate once she feels your are committed.
RWarNmsn69
09-06-18, 21:52
https://www.seeking.com/messages/inbox/799fa719-c140-4f70-aaea-43c9d736fd33
This one seems like a pro. Also tries to renogotiate once she feels your are committed.Please repost her link. This link is to your Messages.
Safe mongering and sugaring!
Well, we all saw it coming: the fee is now like everywhere else, Auto-Renewal Monthly. Unless you purchase the "3 months plan" which is still "One Time Only Charge. ".
Is there an option of stopping Auto-Renewal?
BuckEyeFan08
09-25-18, 22:33
Well, we all saw it coming: the fee is now like everywhere else, Auto-Renewal Monthly. Unless you purchase the "3 months plan" which is still "One Time Only Charge. ".
Is there an option of stopping Auto-Renewal?Yeah, If you log into your account, not through the app. In Settings there is a button that says Cancel Auto-Renewal.
JohnnyLovesIt
09-26-18, 10:12
Well, we all saw it coming: the fee is now like everywhere else, Auto-Renewal Monthly. Unless you purchase the "3 months plan" which is still "One Time Only Charge. ".
Is there an option of stopping Auto-Renewal?I use the Visa or Mastercard gift cards and only put on a months worth of money on it.
I use the Visa or Mastercard gift cards and only put on a months worth of money on it.Gift cards will not work for payment in other countries. Stopped working about a year ago, government crackdown on money laundering and terrorists.
You can get a Visa or MC that will work but you have to provide I'd and SS# witch takes away from the anonymous aspect.
FarFarAway
09-27-18, 11:04
Gift cards will not work for payment in other countries. Stopped working about a year ago, government crackdown on money laundering and terrorists.
You can get a Visa or MC that will work but you have to provide I'd and SS# witch takes away from the anonymous aspect.Not my experience. I buy a vanilla gift card at my local pharmacy that has worked for the last 2 times I paid a membership fee on SA. An introductory $25 for a week from the phone app, w / a new profile I set up just for this purpose, and a $80 monthly for my long-standing profile.
Just saw this in the LA SA Forum (#3227), feel that I just have to share:
https://www.seeking.com/member/d4e98130-2cf6-d44c-c810-51fc15097393
"Before you message me, please make sure you can afford me. I came up with a financial formula for my arrangements. Please have a minimum net worth, "MNW", equal to my net worth ($7 M) plus $5 M for each of the following traits you lack: being a non-smoker, the ability to use drugs / alcohol in moderation, a full head of hair, natural erections, a fairly fit body, kindness, intelligence on par with my own, attentiveness on par with my own, security in a relationship (read lack of jealousy), respect for women (e. G. YOUR WIFE), or attractiveness equal to my own. Have another $1 M for every year of age you have on me. If you have an ex entitled to alimony, double your MNW. If you have 2 -ex wives being supported, you clearly never learn, triple your MNW. If you don't have a sense of humor or can't do word problems, quadruple your MNW. On that note, if you lack empathy, you'll need to be a billionaire to get me on my knees. Even then, I'd probably just bite you (I know, not very empathetic). ".
43 years old and she is not even hot or pretty. Not even a MILF. I am speechless.
Just saw this in the LA SA Forum (#3227), feel that I just have to share:
https://www.seeking.com/member/d4e98130-2cf6-d44c-c810-51fc15097393
"Before you message me, please make sure you can afford me. I came up with a financial formula for my arrangements. Please have a minimum net worth, "MNW", equal to my net worth ($7 M) plus $5 M for each of the following traits you lack: being a non-smoker, the ability to use drugs / alcohol in moderation, a full head of hair, natural erections, a fairly fit body, kindness, intelligence on par with my own, attentiveness on par with my own, security in a relationship (read lack of jealousy), respect for women (e. G. YOUR WIFE), or attractiveness equal to my own. Have another $1 M for every year of age you have on me. If you have an ex entitled to alimony, double your MNW. If you have 2 -ex wives being supported, you clearly never learn, triple your MNW. If you don't have a sense of humor or can't do word problems, quadruple your MNW. On that note, if you lack empathy, you'll need to be a billionaire to get me on my knees. Even then, I'd probably just bite you (I know, not very empathetic). ".
43 years old and she is not even hot or pretty. Not even a MILF. I am speechless.Chick is probably manic, and wrote that crazy shit on a high note.
Folks,
Been out of the bowl for almost 2 years due to busy schedule and frustration about pros flooded on SA. Kind of thinking to go back. Want to see how you guys (if still in the bowl in SD area) are doing. Been reading the LA and Richmond threads, and they are surely very different scene than SD (based on what I remembered).
Folks,
Been out of the bowl for almost 2 years due to busy schedule and frustration about pros flooded on SA. Kind of thinking to go back. Want to see how you guys (if still in the bowl in SD area) are doing. Been reading the LA and Richmond threads, and they are surely very different scene than SD (based on what I remembered).I was on SA early summer and it was FLOODED w / pros. Because the schools were out, people all went back home for the summer. Now the schools are in session, I m thinking about going back in. Seems like Summer is the season to avoid on SA.
It is true that GPSs are everywhere and situation might get worse as the younger girls think there are free money everywhere. I don't know about other people, I have this gut feeling: the current environment kinda reminds me of 06 & 07, before the recession.
FarFarAway
09-30-18, 17:51
I was on SA early summer and it was FLOODED w / pros. Because the schools were out, people all went back home for the summer. Now the schools are in session, I m thinking about going back in. Seems like Summer is the season to avoid on SA.
It is true that GPSs are everywhere and situation might get worse as the younger girls think there are free money everywhere. I don't know about other people, I have this gut feeling: the current environment kinda reminds me of 06 & 07, before the recession.Wait! Am I reading this right? Are you calling the market / economy based on what's happening on seeking.com?? If true, that would be *hilarious*. That would be an awesome indicator, though, not available to many people who try to analyze this stuff. LOL.
Tennis Nut
09-30-18, 21:18
Beware of SassyClassy99. I don't have her link because she blocked me. For no good reason!
She's about 34 and lives in San Marcos. We set up a time and place to meet this afternoon and she simply failed to show up. And she didn't text or anything to offer an excuse. Now, maybe a lot of you guys have experienced that, but I can't recall ever being stood up. To say it's rude is to state the obvious, so I'll just say avoid this crazy one like the plague.
All I can say after a year of playing in this pool is it needs some chlorine. It's full of crazy, rude, insensitive people--evidently on both sides of the gender aisle. But, like an gamble, it's habit-forming.
Wait! Am I reading this right? Are you calling the market / economy based on what's happening on seeking.com?? If true, that would be *hilarious*. That would be an awesome indicator, though, not available to many people who try to analyze this stuff. LOL.
Well, I just got a text yesterday, saying that the "economy is good" and my net worth doesn't "reflect" accordingly.
Also, those "paid M&G"s, someone is paying them. lol
FarFarAway
10-01-18, 13:14
Well, I just got a text yesterday, saying that the "economy is good" and my net worth doesn't "reflect" accordingly.
Also, those "paid M&G"s, someone is paying them. lolI'm not sure of that. Anyone who as spent even a little time on here would know not to do it. The girls can always ask, that doesn't mean they get it. Like the guy who walks into Pawn Stars and says "they are selling for $xxx on the internet" - no, someone is asking that for them on the internet.
Tennis Nut
10-02-18, 12:15
https://www.seeking.com/member/1300f3e9-69ac-4767-9794-d17c70ea1879
I think this girl is so hot! I was in touch with her many moons ago, but she was way too expensive. I don't recall her fee, but it was sky-high.
Has anyone been with her? I'd love to hear the details.
FarFarAway
10-02-18, 15:23
https://www.seeking.com/member/1300f3e9-69ac-4767-9794-d17c70ea1879
I think this girl is so hot! I was in touch with her many moons ago, but she was way too expensive. I don't recall her fee, but it was sky-high.
Has anyone been with her? I'd love to hear the details.She's so hot, she burned up. I got on. Profile not found.
JohnRichard
10-02-18, 17:49
https://www.seeking.com/member/1300f3e9-69ac-4767-9794-d17c70ea1879
I think this girl is so hot! I was in touch with her many moons ago, but she was way too expensive. I don't recall her fee, but it was sky-high.
Has anyone been with her? I'd love to hear the details.Seems she is quite the gps. I would be curious if someone here had any success. She has been on SA since Nov 2016 and she was active today. So she must be getting some hits.
". looking for someone who will help with all of my bills, school and life expense as well as provide with allowance to upkeep the fun aspects of my life! Such as my hair, gym, shopping etc (: ".
She's so hot, she burned up. I got on. Profile not found.Showed up for me. You must be blocked LOL.
All the recent traffic & story-telling in the thread has inspired me to share my own SA experience.
I've been on the site for nearly a year.
I'm married, but had been with my wife for over 10 years prior to tying the knot.
She gave me a hall pass as an anniversary gift.
Initially used it on HX, but SA is better for what I'm seeking.
It expires at the end of this year though so my time is coming to an end.
I've met with all types over the last year.
Will do a write-up sharing what's worked for me & my various experiences, and post here in a few days.
Second time for me. This time I was looking at the girls and somehow we hit a glitch and my browser froze so bad I ad to reboot. This time my VPN changed from Los Angeles to Phoenix. This triggered something with them so the next time I try to log on I am banned. They must have had a problem about me logging on from LA then from Phoenix within about 20 minutes. No big, I'll just get another email address and play again. I wasen't a paying member so no big deal.
The other banning was when I tried to renew my membership over a hotel WIFI in Yuma. I had a new gift card registered to my monger name, their system rejected it then I tried to do a PayPal and that failed. Next time I log on they have me banned for trying to cheat them on payment. That was right at the time gift cards quit working.
Moral of the story is be careful with their system, if they think you are messing with them you get banned.
Beware of SassyClassy99. I don't have her link because she blocked me. For no good reason!
She's about 34 and lives in San Marcos. We set up a time and place to meet this afternoon and she simply failed to show up. And she didn't text or anything to offer an excuse. Now, maybe a lot of you guys have experienced that, but I can't recall ever being stood up. To say it's rude is to state the obvious, so I'll just say avoid this crazy one like the plague.
All I can say after a year of playing in this pool is it needs some chlorine. It's full of crazy, rude, insensitive people--evidently on both sides of the gender aisle. But, like an gamble, it's habit-forming.Let me help: https://www.seeking.com/member/10ca2a1e-8756-4be2-bd6d-5fb0570a1823.
PussyPumper
10-06-18, 02:34
Beware of SassyClassy99. I don't have her link because she blocked me. For no good reason!
She's about 34 and lives in San Marcos. We set up a time and place to meet this afternoon and she simply failed to show up. And she didn't text or anything to offer an excuse. Now, maybe a lot of you guys have experienced that, but I can't recall ever being stood up. To say it's rude is to state the obvious, so I'll just say avoid this crazy one like the plague..If you have only been stood up once then you can't be a player.
More to the point, did you / do you believe she is 34? Not for a second! Just look at her photos, for goodness sake. She is 11 years older than 34.
HippyHippyShak
10-07-18, 16:43
https://www.ohmibodworld.com/christy_love/
PussyPumper
10-08-18, 07:12
https://www.ohmibodworld.com/christy_love/I met Christy twice. Each time she was unhappy with the donation, which embarrassed and angered me.
I first contacted Christy on SA before her porn career started, when she was still married. At the time, her story was that hubby loved to hear of her exploits. She also had / has a second, cammer identity. Back then she initially requested $600 per meet, or 1000 for Greek. I negotiated an SA rate. In writing. At a substantial discount from that.
First meet was hot. She did not do meet & greets. She positively wants and expects CIM. She loves to swallow.
But at the end, she checked the donation, and wondered why it wasn't 600. I had to remind her (again) of her agreement to a lesser amount.
Same thing happened the second time around, except less hot, and shorter visit, which was too much for me. By then she was already all over porn forums, doing anal from the start, and shortly after, interracial gangbangs.
Yeah, If you log into your account, not through the app. In Settings there is a button that says Cancel Auto-Renewal.Not only they now have a monthly charge (which can be turned off), but they now save the credit card & the name on the credit card! You have to go to the setting and remove it yourself.
FarFarAway
10-10-18, 13:13
Not only they now have a monthly charge (which can be turned off), but they now save the credit card & the name on the credit card! You have to go to the setting and remove it yourself.I have been on SA 2-3 years, and I have always found my card used the last time I paid there when I got back on. I would advise everyone, everyone, to simply use a prepaid debit card that only has enough $ on it to get your month membership. They can't recharge something that has no $ on it, and for name / etc. You can enter all your fake sugar name / address. You never know when there might be a hack, though I think SA is more careful than Ashely Madison ever was.
I have been on SA 2-3 years, and I have always found my card used the last time I paid there when I got back on. I would advise everyone, everyone, to simply use a prepaid debit card that only has enough $ on it to get your month membership. They can't recharge something that has no $ on it, and for name / etc. You can enter all your fake sugar name / address. You never know when there might be a hack, though I think SA is more careful than Ashely Madison ever was.I am shocked to see that a prepaid card still works for some of you. It quit working for me almost a year ago. I got stuck with prepaid cards to use for local purchases, a pain in the ass.
I posted on the Richmond SA board about Crypto Currency or BitCoin. I have the process all spelled out and can PM it or can post it for everyone. After figuring it out I find it is truly Anonymous.
I have been on SA 2-3 years, and I have always found my card used the last time I paid there when I got back on. I would advise everyone, everyone, to simply use a prepaid debit card that only has enough $ on it to get your month membership. They can't recharge something that has no $ on it, and for name / etc. You can enter all your fake sugar name / address. You never know when there might be a hack, though I think SA is more careful than Ashely Madison ever was.Well, I just tried the prepaid card, try to purchase an "Attract" just for testing. It didn't work. Maybe if you can, share with us the brand of your prepaid card?
FarFarAway
10-11-18, 12:10
Well, I just tried the prepaid card, try to purchase an "Attract" just for testing. It didn't work. Maybe if you can, share with us the brand of your prepaid card?Vanilla Visa gift card, bought at my local pharmacy (ugh! $5 fee). But not traceable. And not rechargeable.
JohnnyLovesIt
10-15-18, 17:16
Well, I just tried the prepaid card, try to purchase an "Attract" just for testing. It didn't work. Maybe if you can, share with us the brand of your prepaid card?Did you register a zip code? I just purchased a Vanilla MasterCard. It didn't work at first but when I called up to ask why, they said to register a zip. I did that through their 1-800 number and it worked.
FarFarAway
10-16-18, 15:23
Did you register a zip code? I just purchased a Vanilla MasterCard. It didn't work at first but when I called up to ask why, they said to register a zip. I did that through their 1-800 number and it worked.Of course I did. That is standard for using any of these cards online. I was writing a full how-to a couple of days ago, and then this site burped and wiped out everything, I wasn't going to burn that time again. You can also go on the web and register the zip code, it is a good way to keep track of the $. On seeking.com you also must put in your address info, there is no checking of that so just use a standard sugar address.
Did you register a zip code? I just purchased a Vanilla MasterCard. It didn't work at first but when I called up to ask why, they said to register a zip. I did that through their 1-800 number and it worked.My P411 expired and can't renew, no TER, tiring of unreviewed encounters. Giving seeking a try. Have pic on but guess got to pay to communicate? Read need card that does international transactions. I see by this post regular store bought MC or Visa with zip will work?
My P411 expired and can't renew, no TER, tiring of unreviewed encounters. Giving seeking a try. Have pic on but guess got to pay to communicate? Read need card that does international transactions. I see by this post regular store bought MC or Visa with zip will work?So, created profile with real pic but didn't pay and bam, after couple days account deleted.
PussyPumper
11-02-18, 03:50
Nothing posted for weeks! Have SBs gone extinct? Surely some of you guys are pounding some fresh coed pussy, maybe even more than one.
Isn't it time to start sharing the intel again?
Vanilla Visa gift card, bought at my local pharmacy (ugh! $5 fee). But not traceable. And not rechargeable.Oh, I almost forgot. I am happy to report that Vanilla Brand Visa works on SA. Thank you FFA!
FarFarAway
11-02-18, 18:47
Oh, I almost forgot. I am happy to report that Vanilla Brand Visa works on SA. Thank you FFA!You're welcome, give us the good news as you progress w / your pots.
1. User Name: Sammycrz (She blocked me, so no link).
She reached out to me and said that she's had 2 other arrangements before and it was a ppm with 5 - 6 bens per meet. I countered and she said she was firmed on the ppm rate and then went ahead a blocked me.
2. https://www.seeking.com/member/baa5fc88-2e13-4c3c-90b3-83d218c2f4fd.
This 1 quotes me 4 bens per meet. It was like the 3rd messages, has not partake.
3. https://www.seeking.com/member/b4b9cc52-eea9-470f-95ce-4fc9019614e3.
Willing to send you a bunch of photos. However, she's really far into the east of Palm Spring and doesn't want to travel. 3 bens per meet.
Sorry for not sharing for so long. I met this very nice lady, she is older than the coeds you generally see but she has no problems going bare everything and she claimed to be tied so no worries about ending up being a real daddy, only a sugar daddy. She does ask 300 but she is really nice and loves to please, and you could negociate something lower if you want to see her often, which I couldn't. And she is petite and skinny, almost a true spinner, just some baby marks because she has kids but a lot of fun.
https://www.seeking.com/member/9e83f71d-8bcf-4928-972d-0259b8089536
I'm also pursuing a few others, will share when I get to meet them but I'm quite busy right now. Let's keep this thread alive, SA is the best. Did some escorts before, but now that I got a taste of SA I'm never going back. Takes more work obviously, since. You don't just text a number and go for it, but it's worth the effort, much cheaper, much younger, and if bare is your thing it's the way to go, but don't ask for it, just go for it, most won't have a problem with it.
JohnnyLovesIt
11-04-18, 12:08
Sorry for not sharing for so long. I met this very nice lady, she is older than the coeds you generally see but she has no problems going bare everything and she claimed to be tied so no worries about ending up being a real daddy, only a sugar daddy. She does ask 300 but she is really nice and loves to please, and you could negociate something lower if you want to see her often, which I couldn't. And she is petite and skinny, almost a true spinner, just some baby marks because she has kids but a lot of fun.
https://www.seeking.com/member/9e83f71d-8bcf-4928-972d-0259b8089536
I'm also pursuing a few others, will share when I get to meet them but I'm quite busy right now. Let's keep this thread alive, SA is the best. Did some escorts before, but now that I got a taste of SA I'm never going back. Takes more work obviously, since. You don't just text a number and go for it, but it's worth the effort, much cheaper, much younger, and if bare is your thing it's the way to go, but don't ask for it, just go for it, most won't have a problem with it.I almost got to meet her. We agreed on a meetup at a public spot. She saw me then turned around and walked away. I was bummed out. Maybe I was too old for her? Just curious, how old are you?
It's been a while since I checked in, been busy haha. Had contact with Lily, sent her a polite message and she responded. Moved to text to discuss further details. Was setting up a m&g when it became apparent we didn't even need to waste time on that. Tried to agree on donation, I offered 2, she wanted 3, tried to get her to meet in the middle but no go. If you are ok with 3, you should be able to have some fun with her.
https://www.seeking.com/member/345b9bfa-3169-4bcb-b939-5f6d809e392e
Have met Layla in the past and also not a time waster. If she likes you then let the fun begin. Have had more than one date with her, may repeat again but there is so much to explore out there if you know what I mean. Treat her nice and be respectful.
https://www.seeking.com/member/e8b4f044-eb8d-49b2-9476-ae3ed0464d10
Had some contact in the past, she shows a lot of interest and gives you the line that she's not necessarily looking for intimacy, but with time etc etc etc. Just what you wanted to hear, right? Then comes right out and asks if I'm ok with ppm. So I'm trying to figure out where this discussion is going. I give my expectations on the benefits that go along with ppm. End of negotiation. Another professional meet and greeter.
To all inexperienced or desperate SD's, do not promote this type of behaviour. Allowance to watch someone eat is not an arrangement.
https://www.seeking.com/member/f2ddd282-740a-4cfc-8be7-c86faf5267de
I almost got to meet her. We agreed on a meetup at a public spot. She saw me then turned around and walked away. I was bummed out. Maybe I was too old for her? Just curious, how old are you?Sorry to hear that happened. I'm 35, maybe a bit young for this game but love how easy it is to hook up with 19-20 years old here, and sometimes hot older ones.
Had some contact in the past, she shows a lot of interest and gives you the line that she's not necessarily looking for intimacy, but with time etc etc etc. Just what you wanted to hear, right? Then comes right out and asks if I'm ok with ppm. So I'm trying to figure out where this discussion is going. I give my expectations on the benefits that go along with ppm. End of negotiation. Another professional meet and greeter.
To all inexperienced or desperate SD's, do not promote this type of behaviour. Allowance to watch someone eat is not an arrangement.
https://www.seeking.com/member/f2ddd282-740a-4cfc-8be7-c86faf5267deShe shows platonic in her tag, I generally avoid these, but thanks for the reports. I will send some too later this week.
FarFarAway
11-05-18, 14:07
Had some contact in the past, she shows a lot of interest and gives you the line that she's not necessarily looking for intimacy, but with time etc etc etc. Just what you wanted to hear, right? Then comes right out and asks if I'm ok with ppm. So I'm trying to figure out where this discussion is going. I give my expectations on the benefits that go along with ppm. End of negotiation. Another professional meet and greeter.
To all inexperienced or desperate SD's, do not promote this type of behaviour. Allowance to watch someone eat is not an arrangement.
https://www.seeking.com/member/f2ddd282-740a-4cfc-8be7-c86faf5267deShe lists Orange Cty on her profile. That's my turf, is she really near me?? I could try to crack this nut. I don't have a paid membership at the moment, though.
She lists Orange Cty on her profile. That's my turf, is she really near me?? I could try to crack this nut. I don't have a paid membership at the moment, though.When I was messaging her, she was in San Clemente.
https://www.seeking.com/member/cc6c8809-240d-4db9-bcf8-594da13398cb
I'll be traveling to SD next week, does anyone have any info?
SdvicHugo619
11-08-18, 19:16
Any of you guys have experience with a Sugar baby south of the border?
I would like to find one and any help is appreciated. I go down there often for work.
Tennis Nut
11-09-18, 12:09
Any of you guys have experience with a Sugar baby south of the border?
I would like to find one and any help is appreciated. I go down there often for work.I've used the search function on SA to find SBs in Tijuana. You'll find that some are profound wastes of time and others are willing to meet quickly. Mostly, I've found the former, with some exceptions:
I scored well once--in fact, she drove up here. She was smart and great-looking, well-traveled, and ready to get down after an hour's chat. I didn't see her a second time because 1) she wasn't into kissing; 2) I love variety; and 3) I passed her along to one friend who did her three times and another who did her once. https://www.seeking.com/member/78c38fc2-e54b-41b4-aa50-4c8c5924c451.
Another time I had lunch with a cute 18-year old (I felt like I was her uncle), but it was just lunch.
There are some nice-looking girls and women to choose from--of every age--so it's a matter of playing the SA game as you would anywhere else. The Tijuana SBs know that USA Allowances are higher, therefore some ask for more money than they would otherwise get.
Good luck, be patient.
Any of you guys have experience with a Sugar baby south of the border?
I would like to find one and any help is appreciated. I go down there often for work.I don't meet up w / Tijuana ladies from SA, mainly for the pricing. If you go there for work, then your Spanish is probably better than mine. I have no problem dating girls from Tijuana, I even found a few UTRs. Their allowances are much lower than the ones in the US.
Most of the SA ladies from Tijuana are "frequent visitors" of the local clubs, which I do enjoy from time to time. Yet I feel no need to find one from SA if I can just meet up with them in the clubs.
Appreciate any intel others post here and occasionally do the same. Recently had some lurker PM me for more info. I don't mind sharing reasonable information, but as it turns out I can only guess that this guy is too cheap to pay for membership on SA. He asks me for the private info about some sb's so he can set something up.
To all wannabe SD's, don't even go there. Pay to join SA and do your own research, develop some game and get an SB interested in seeing you. It is up to her to decide if she wants to give out private information. If playing in the bowl is too difficult for you, there are many other places where girls advertise and are loose with their info.
Tennis Nut
11-11-18, 00:34
But if all the members of SA share their info with other guys and those guys chip in for the first guy's membership, then the real member gets it for free. Just in case that wasn't clear, let's say you, Waxxon, pay $80 per month to SA and share the info with ten guys on this site. Each of them pays you $10, which of course you will get, then your membership fee will be covered. What could be better!
You might ask, "What about the guys that don't follow through and pay their $10. There is an easy solution: send them information on only the crazy girls on SA; and we know there are plenty of them! So the crazy guys will end up with the crazy girls and, well, it'll be just like real life!
Okay, who wants to start by implementing this brilliant idea?
Appreciate any intel others post here and occasionally do the same. Recently had some lurker PM me for more info. I don't mind sharing reasonable information, but as it turns out I can only guess that this guy is too cheap to pay for membership on SA. He asks me for the private info about some sb's so he can set something up.
To all wannabe SD's, don't even go there. Pay to join SA and do your own research, develop some game and get an SB interested in seeing you. It is up to her to decide if she wants to give out private information. If playing in the bowl is too difficult for you, there are many other places where girls advertise and are loose with their info.
But if all the members of SA share their info with other guys and those guys chip in for the first guy's membership, then the real member gets it for free. Just in case that wasn't clear, let's say you, Waxxon, pay $80 per month to SA and share the info with ten guys on this site. Each of them pays you $10, which of course you will get, then your membership fee will be covered. What could be better!
You might ask, "What about the guys that don't follow through and pay their $10. There is an easy solution: send them information on only the crazy girls on SA; and we know there are plenty of them! So the crazy guys will end up with the crazy girls and, well, it'll be just like real life!
Okay, who wants to start by implementing this brilliant idea?Now that sounds like a great idea!
Venmo me daddies!
Ever heard that one before?
https://www.seeking.com/member/cc6c8809-240d-4db9-bcf8-594da13398cb
I'll be traveling to SD next week, does anyone have any info?She favorited me but my membership expired and I didn't feel like renewing.
But if all the members of SA share their info with other guys and those guys chip in for the first guy's membership, then the real member gets it for free. Just in case that wasn't clear, let's say you, Waxxon, pay $80 per month to SA and share the info with ten guys on this site. Each of them pays you $10, which of course you will get, then your membership fee will be covered. What could be better!
You might ask, "What about the guys that don't follow through and pay their $10. There is an easy solution: send them information on only the crazy girls on SA; and we know there are plenty of them! So the crazy guys will end up with the crazy girls and, well, it'll be just like real life!
Okay, who wants to start by implementing this brilliant idea?I dunno, even if you'd trust someone to follow through with it, it's a lot of work for the original member. Because now he's messaging girls for however many guys. And what about the ones that overlap? Say guy A wants info on girl, you get it for him and they start texting and hit it off. Then guy B wants info on the same girl? She might be a little pissed you're giving her info to other random dudes. Sounds like more trouble than it's worth to me.
GfEnthusiast
11-22-18, 13:39
I've had great success on SA and would recommend to anyone considering it. Its easy enough to cancel or stop the recurring payment. As far as the talent. Well, can't beat it. You have to do a little bit of work but you can find pros and civies as well as all kinds of arrangement options. I wouldn't bother with splitting the cost of a membership with anyone else. If you're on the fence I recommend.
https://www.seeking.com/member/4829ac12-12b0-4d75-ab31-0c510a739a73
I said no and she blocked me.
https://www.seeking.com/member/4829ac12-12b0-4d75-ab31-0c510a739a73
I said no and she blocked me.Spoke too soon, actually she sent me a note saying "I get that all the time but sorry you don't make enough" and then blocked me.
I don't know if this is taboo or against the rules, but is anyone willing to share pics of these available girls on this forum.
All I see are links that obviously only work if you're subbed to the site. I think there's a decent group that'd be curious and appreciate an actual look at what's to offer. And if it's worthwhile to sub.
Hope that makes sense.
I don't know if this is taboo or against the rules, but is anyone willing to share pics of these available girls on this forum.
All I see are links that obviously only work if you're subbed to the site. I think there's a decent group that'd be curious and appreciate an actual look at what's to offer. And if it's worthwhile to sub.
Hope that makes sense.You can create an account completely free (and do not have to give any real info to do so). Having an account let's you look at member profiles. You only need to pay once you want to start messaging people.
https://www.seeking.com/member/d5ac2f8b-f447-4f66-8a26-ae3bbeccbaf9
Wants $200 for a dinner date.
https://www.seeking.com/member/d5ac2f8b-f447-4f66-8a26-ae3bbeccbaf9
Wants $200 for a dinner date.I met her for a M&G 6-8 months ago (no $$) in PB when she first moved down to SD and joined SA. I see she has upped her game, now wants $ for a meet and greet. My thoughts of her back then were she was stuck up priss and was superficial at best, and had no idea about what an SB was. Looks like she created a new profile since I saw her, but using the same pics.
Now it appears she is just a professional meet and greeter, do not fall for this bs. If I were you, agree to it, schedule a meet, do not pay ahead of time, and then cancel at the last second telling her some other girl is going to see you for nothing.
I had a great success using the app. Thank you for amazing feedback by senior Daddies. I am 26 BTW LOL.
Does anyone have expirence with this one? She messaged me last night.
https://www.seeking.com/member/94b22038-f7c5-41ed-b558-090b4cb3a31a
She has been wanting to meet with me, and it's no wonder why. She comes right out and says she wants 300 up front just for a M&G.
https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/94b22038-f7c5-41ed-b558-090b4cb3a31a
I let her know I don't do that, and for that matter, I have never given even one dime for a meet and greet.
Really makes me wonder if there are guys out there paying for this kind of stuff.This was my experience with Diannna. Check her out and see what she's up to today. Maybe she has figured it out. Daddies don't pay to watch them stuff their pie hole.
Give us an update.
Seems like it's that time of the year, finals are coming and everybody is gearing up for the holidays.
I logined today, and this is what I got: there is no new member in our county, wao.
Does anyone have expirence with this one? She messaged me last night.
https://www.seeking.com/member/94b22038-f7c5-41ed-b558-090b4cb3a31aI got to meet with Dianna for no price. We talked about what we both want and agreed to meet at a different time. We made out in my car and got to kiss and feel all over her for no price. I plan to see her soon. She is skinnier than pics, very pretty face, cup a or perhaps b. I will update after I see her.
JakeDSnake
12-27-18, 08:25
https://www.seeking.com/member/4829ac12-12b0-4d75-ab31-0c510a739a73
I said no and she blocked me.I actually met with her a couple of times.
Anyone have any good luck on any other sugar daddy related sites? SA is kinda dead not to mention getting banned from it like 5 times.
Member #6555
12-28-18, 23:55
Does anyone have expirence with this one? She messaged me last night.
https://www.seeking.com/member/94b22038-f7c5-41ed-b558-090b4cb3a31aYes I've seen her. We had a Meet and Greet at Starbucks and ended up making out in her car. She said she doesn't do that on the M&G but she was attracted to me. We started talking more and then she wanted upwards of 500 for a first date and I said no.
Anyone ever met this girl? Goes by Jen, I matched with her on Tinder and I know I used to see her profile on SA. Wondering if it's worth my time because she's asking for a lot more than the girls I normally see ask for.
Anyone ever met this girl? Goes by Jen, I matched with her on Tinder and I know I used to see her profile on SA. Wondering if it's worth my time because she's asking for a lot more than the girls I normally see ask for.I haven't, but I also lowball like crazy so don't pull ones that look like that very often. Goddamn I would probably spend too much on her. If those are naturals, I definitely would. What's she asking?
She wants at least 1 k just to meet for the first time to discuss future benefits. Also not naturals, she's done a couple adult vids so I know she's modified. One of those "real college girl" vids. I don't care if they're fake though, if I can touch them they're real to me lmao.
I haven't, but I also lowball like crazy so don't pull ones that look like that very often. Goddamn I would probably spend too much on her. If those are naturals, I definitely would. What's she asking?
Anyone ever met this girl? Goes by Jen, I matched with her on Tinder and I know I used to see her profile on SA. Wondering if it's worth my time because she's asking for a lot more than the girls I normally see ask for.Please post a SA link.
Yes. Tinder is now just a cheaper version of SA, Humaniplex even the good old BP & CL. You run into familiar faces all the time.
JohnnyLovesIt
12-31-18, 14:24
Anyone ever met this girl? Goes by Jen, I matched with her on Tinder and I know I used to see her profile on SA. Wondering if it's worth my time because she's asking for a lot more than the girls I normally see ask for.I tried looking for her in SA and haven't been able to find her yet. I'd have to meet her first to see if she's worth it but she does look real good. Maybe too good?
JStephens0226
01-01-19, 20:44
Anyone ever met this girl? Goes by Jen, I matched with her on Tinder and I know I used to see her profile on SA. Wondering if it's worth my time because she's asking for a lot more than the girls I normally see ask for.Wow I actually know this chick, or at least I used to, haven't spoken with her in ages. No clue if that's really her on SA or Tinder but def sounds like something she'd do. Although I've seen the adult vids she's made, was some of the worst porn I've ever watched lmao. If she's asking for 1 k like you ask, def not worth it for her to just starfish the entire time. Would love to motorboat those titties though.
Wow I actually know this chick, or at least I used to, haven't spoken with her in ages. No clue if that's really her on SA or Tinder but def sounds like something she'd do. Although I've seen the adult vids she's made, was some of the worst porn I've ever watched lmao. If she's asking for 1 k like you ask, def not worth it for her to just starfish the entire time. Would love to motorboat those titties though.You got a link to the porn?
Cheers.
JStephens0226
01-03-19, 00:44
You got a link to the porn?
Cheers.It was Girls Do Porn episodes 336 and 339.
PussyPumper
01-03-19, 21:26
While there are some who visit for short periods, there seem to be very few local porn "stars" on SA!
I only know of three, plus the girl referenced here in recent posts makes just 4.
Christy Love.
Scarlett (has appeared with CL in porn).
GDP Girl #1 (not active since last summer).
GDP Girl #2 (E336, E339).
Anyone know of more?
JakeDSnake
01-04-19, 02:45
It was Girls Do Porn episodes 336 and 339.Seriously. You're asked for a linke and that's all you've got?
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01-04-19, 05:16
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Seriously. You're asked for a linke and that's all you've got?That was plenty of info already IMO. Google is your friend.
Thanks JakeDSnake. You were definitely right about the performance.
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01-04-19, 16:54
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JohnnyLovesIt
01-05-19, 12:01
It was Girls Do Porn episodes 336 and 339.Thanks. I like her look. I'll definitely try contacting her if I find her in SA.
It's been a while, here's some recent info from SA.
SunBBY92109 https://www.seeking.com/member/a7976f15-4eeb-4f86-bc96-843a2025e996.
Reached out to me, chatted a bit. She is ready willing and able. Didn't partake because my regular sb was taking care of me.
Yogabbxx https://www.seeking.com/member/0a1a36f8-87ed-493c-b357-317ff1ad50db.
Messaging went well, has a hubby that OOT? Ready to connect, one problem. Gps. Maybe reality has set in and has become reasonable.
Cuddlingkitten https://www.seeking.com/member/0a5488de-3467-c4d0-1563-5684c626f011.
I spent several days messaging with her. Seemed very selective, and intelligent. I made it past her screening mechanism, we set a date. On the day of the date, she hits me with the "I expect to be compensated for my time" schtick. I let her know the only time I compensate for is FC time. Ghosted me.
Ablondenanny https://www.seeking.com/member/2b73a767-6f2f-4a2b-8199-1b327062d5c4.
Had M&G, follow up date at my place. A nice session, tried for repeat dates. Has moved to LA for school. Will revisit when back in town.
Tennis Nut
01-16-19, 00:43
It's been a while, here's some recent info from SA.
SunBBY92109 https://www.seeking.com/member/a7976f15-4eeb-4f86-bc96-843a2025e996.
Reached out to me, chatted a bit. She is ready willing and able. Didn't partake because my regular sb was taking care of me.
Yogabbxx https://www.seeking.com/member/0a1a36f8-87ed-493c-b357-317ff1ad50db.
Messaging went well, has a hubby that OOT? Ready to connect, one problem. Gps. Maybe reality has set in and has become reasonable.
Cuddlingkitten https://www.seeking.com/member/0a5488de-3467-c4d0-1563-5684c626f011.
I spent several days messaging with her. Seemed very selective, and intelligent. I made it past her screening mechanism, we set a date. On the day of the date, she hits me with the "I expect to be compensated for my time" schtick. I let her know the only time I compensate for is FC time. Ghosted me.
Ablondenanny https://www.seeking.com/member/2b73a767-6f2f-4a2b-8199-1b327062d5c4.
Had M&G, follow up date at my place. A nice session, tried for repeat dates. Has moved to LA for school. Will revisit when back in town.Waxie,
You are such a stud! You make the rest of us look like losers. Thanks for making me feel so. Inadequate.
Love ya, man!
William Monroe
01-22-19, 00:09
I had read most of this thread and finally decided it was worth it to go premium. Glad I did. I signed up for the 7 day and right away made contact with some ladies so I signed up for another 30 days.
So far I've met a lady who was opted to ppm, she asked for 300, go figure, but happily accepted 200. I told her I was needing plenty of TLC since I'm in my 60's and she was ok with that.
When I was confirming that morning she texted " $250 right?" I said no, we had agreed on $200. She said ok.
These texts got me to thinking pro. So I was not sure how it would go. Well she was wonderful. Not pushy or businesslike at all. I think she just can use the extra money so is pretty anxious. One I was there it was great. We chatted for a while then I put my arm around her and wow, what a kisser. It was great certainly the best sex I've had in a long time.
I'm not going to share this one yet as I like her (duh) I've got a question though for the veterans.
How many of these ladies can you juggle? I messaged maybe 10 different women and have gotten replies, shared my pictures and gotten phone numbers. I have several who want to meet but I don't have the free time very often. How many potential SBs do you communicate with at a time?
I'm married and actually I'd be more interested in a ppm arrangement. Should I tell the ladies that? I'm getting the feeling some of the ladies are looking for more than I can give. Thanks.
When I was in the bowl, I was constantly communicating potential SBs all the time (time consuming, yes) but I still had hard time keeping the pipeline going. I am also married, so getting the right SB is more challenging for aligning my schedule, FC availability,.
I did tell SB that I am married. What type of SBs you focus on?
I had read most of this thread and finally decided it was worth it to go premium. Glad I did. I signed up for the 7 day and right away made contact with some ladies so I signed up for another 30 days.
So far I've met a lady who was opted to ppm, she asked for 300, go figure, but happily accepted 200. I told her I was needing plenty of TLC since I'm in my 60's and she was ok with that.
When I was confirming that morning she texted " $250 right?" I said no, we had agreed on $200. She said ok.
These texts got me to thinking pro. So I was not sure how it would go. Well she was wonderful. Not pushy or businesslike at all. I think she just can use the extra money so is pretty anxious. One I was there it was great. We chatted for a while then I put my arm around her and wow, what a kisser. It was great certainly the best sex I've had in a long time.
I'm not going to share this one yet as I like her (duh) I've got a question though for the veterans.
How many of these ladies can you juggle? I messaged maybe 10 different women and have gotten replies, shared my pictures and gotten phone numbers. I have several who want to meet but I don't have the free time very often. How many potential SBs do you communicate with at a time?
I'm married and actually I'd be more interested in a ppm arrangement. Should I tell the ladies that? I'm getting the feeling some of the ladies are looking for more than I can give. Thanks.
William Monroe
01-22-19, 09:42
When I was in the bowl, I was constantly communicating potential SBs all the time (time consuming, yes) but I still had hard time keeping the pipeline going. I am also married, so getting the right SB is more challenging for aligning my schedule, FC availability,.
I did tell SB that I am married. What type of SBs you focus on?I'm focusing mostly on age 35 and up as I'm in my 60's. I have read the reports here though so I'm checking sometimes some of the younger ladies.
City Slicker
01-22-19, 20:31
It's been a while, here's some recent info from SA.
SunBBY92109 https://www.seeking.com/member/a7976f15-4eeb-4f86-bc96-843a2025e996.
Reached out to me, chatted a bit. She is ready willing and able. Didn't partake because my regular sb was taking care of me.
Yogabbxx https://www.seeking.com/member/0a1a36f8-87ed-493c-b357-317ff1ad50db.
Messaging went well, has a hubby that OOT? Ready to connect, one problem. Gps. Maybe reality has set in and has become reasonable.
Cuddlingkitten https://www.seeking.com/member/0a5488de-3467-c4d0-1563-5684c626f011.
I spent several days messaging with her. Seemed very selective, and intelligent. I made it past her screening mechanism, we set a date. On the day of the date, she hits me with the "I expect to be compensated for my time" schtick. I let her know the only time I compensate for is FC time. Ghosted me.
Ablondenanny https://www.seeking.com/member/2b73a767-6f2f-4a2b-8199-1b327062d5c4.
Had M&G, follow up date at my place. A nice session, tried for repeat dates. Has moved to LA for school. Will revisit when back in town.Are most of the ads on the site Pro? Base on their writing, they look to be ordinary people looking for financial support in exchange for service. I'm very interested but have yet to take the plunge. Any advice or recommendations from fellow readers are very welcome.
Cityslicker.
Welcome to the Bowl. First off, it is a learning process, is time consuming, can be frustrating if you let it get to you, but the bottom line it is very rewarding when you're reaping the fruits of your effort.
There are some basic tips / rules.
1. Do not forward $ in advance, or buy them a car and she says she will pay you back etc. Or you will learn the hard way. There are all kinds of stories of SD's losing out, even to an SB you "trust". Buyer beware.
2. Do not pay for M&G, this just encourages and perpetuates the problem. We all have something the other side wants. No honey. No money.
3. Do not overpay. Aka GPS. This is obviously subjective and some cities command higher allowances. Two. Three hundred seems acceptable to many sb's for a couple hours of their time. Not many jobs provide that kind of hourly compensation. Do the math. Of course, this is a free country and they can ask for whatever they want, and you can pay whatever you want. Simple market economics. There are a lot of fish out there, and you may not get the one that you "must have" unless you cough up big allowance. Give it a day, there will be other opportunities.
4. Have a rotation of as many sb's as you can handle physically and financially. It's not unheard of having a rotation of 4-5, some drop off for one reason or another, you may have 1 or two that are your #1 or #2 sb with some options that you keep in your harem.
5. There seem to be a lot more pros out there, you will quickly sense which ones. Nothing wrong with pros, I like them.
6. Develop some game.
7. Age is a personal preference. Everyone has what they feel is their sweet spot.
8. Don't let flakiness, no call no show (NCNS), ghosting, bother you. It happens on both sides. Sure it's irritating, write them off and find one that values your time and generosity as much as you value theirs.
9. Married, it's your choice whether to reveal. Some out there don't want to be home wreckers, some don't care, some prefer it, some will be upset if you mislead them.
10. PPM vs monthly? Most of us do ppm, monthly creates a situation where one side feels they get shortchanged if a date is missed, while there is no incentive for the other side to fulfill the agreement. After you have established a trustworthy sugar relationship, it may work well.
11. Enjoy yourself. Be safe. You're here for a mutually beneficial experience.
I've probably forgotten many things. Other experienced SD's out there with any comments?
Lots of good info on other places here. Visit other threads. See Richmond thread http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?15100-Sugarbaby-Thread-Highlights-Index-and-FAQ.
City Slicker
01-23-19, 00:05
Welcome to the Bowl. First off, it is a learning process, is time consuming, can be frustrating if you let it get to you, but the bottom line it is very rewarding when you're reaping the fruits of your effort.
There are some basic tips / rules.
1. Do not forward $ in advance, or buy them a car and she says she will pay you back etc. Or you will learn the hard way. There are all kinds of stories of SD's losing out, even to an SB you "trust". Buyer beware.
2. Do not pay for M&G, this just encourages and perpetuates the problem. We all have something the other side wants. No honey. No money.
3. Do not overpay. Aka GPS. This is obviously subjective and some cities command higher allowances. Two. Three hundred seems acceptable to many sb's for a couple hours of their time. Not many jobs provide that kind of hourly compensation. Do the math. Of course, this is a free country and they can ask for whatever they want, and you can pay whatever you want. Simple market economics. There are a lot of fish out there, and you may not get the one that you "must have" unless you cough up big allowance. Give it a day, there will be other opportunities.
4. Have a rotation of as many sb's as you can handle physically and financially. It's not unheard of having a rotation of 4-5, some drop off for one reason or another, you may have 1 or two that are your #1 or #2 sb with some options that you keep in your harem.
5. There seem to be a lot more pros out there, you will quickly sense which ones. Nothing wrong with pros, I like them.
6. Develop some game.
7. Age is a personal preference. Everyone has what they feel is their sweet spot.
8. Don't let flakiness, no call no show (NCNS), ghosting, bother you. It happens on both sides. Sure it's irritating, write them off and find one that values your time and generosity as much as you value theirs.
9. Married, it's your choice whether to reveal. Some out there don't want to be home wreckers, some don't care, some prefer it, some will be upset if you mislead them.
10. PPM vs monthly? Most of us do ppm, monthly creates a situation where one side feels they get shortchanged if a date is missed, while there is no incentive for the other side to fulfill the agreement. After you have established a trustworthy sugar relationship, it may work well.
11. Enjoy yourself. Be safe. You're here for a mutually beneficial experience.
I've probably forgotten many things. Other experienced SD's out there with any comments?
Lots of good info on other places here. Visit other threads. See Richmond thread http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?15100-Sugarbaby-Thread-Highlights-Index-and-FAQ.Another dumb question: should I upload my photo or just do ppm and forgo the photo?
FarFarAway
01-23-19, 03:00
Another dumb question: should I upload my photo or just do ppm and forgo the photo?A little confusion here. Pay per meet is the deal for the girl. There is no such thing as ppm for the site. I am not sure, I don't think a photo is absolutely required to have a profile on seeking.com. You can always put up something that isn't you but is close enough for government work. No risk there. You must pay the full monthly to the site, $90. Alternatively, if you get on the app, you can get a week membership for like $30. A tryout. You cannot message any girls until you pay.
I also recommend an extensive review of the Richmond sugar thread, and especially its archive, on the same page. All your questions (and many you did not ask) will be answered there.
City Slicker
01-24-19, 15:39
Here is my seeking arrangement report. It sucks! It is very time consuming but you do get alot of interest and text if anyone is in to playing the game. I've not even contact 'gorgeous' or extremely hot looking model but regular MILF and everyone of them quote like $500. Is that way too high or what? I know I am supposed to to play the game for a greet and meet but everyone of them have wanted something first or ask for donation amount.
I will give a few weeks and report back but initial outing is very poor!
Cityslicker.
FarFarAway
01-24-19, 17:21
Here is my seeking arrangement report. It sucks! It is very time consuming but you do get alot of interest and text if anyone is in to playing the game. I've not even contact 'gorgeous' or extremely hot looking model but regular MILF and everyone of them quote like $500. Is that way too high or what? I know I am supposed to to play the game for a greet and meet but everyone of them have wanted something first or ask for donation amount.
I will give a few weeks and report back but initial outing is very poor!
Cityslicker.As I advised the OP below, you need to spend a few days immersed in other how-to threads, particularly Richmond VA, to learn how to best play the game. Short answer, you aren't taking the right approach.
PussyPumper
01-24-19, 19:19
Here is my seeking arrangement report. It sucks! It is very time consuming but you do get alot of interest and text if anyone is in to playing the game. I've not even contact 'gorgeous' or extremely hot looking model but regular MILF and everyone of them quote like $500. Is that way too high or what? I know I am supposed to to play the game for a greet and meet but everyone of them have wanted something first or ask for donation amount.
I will give a few weeks and report back but initial outing is very poor!
Cityslicker.You are playing the game wrong! SA is where to go to find young sugar BABIES, not old hags (AKA MILFs). Contrary to what you might think, that a MILF would be cheaper, in practice it is always the opposite. MILFs are older, with more commitments. They want more money, as you are discovering. The younger models. Students - are cheaper.
Seems like a few new bowl members, so I'll throw in my $0. 02. If you have a good hour or so to spend a day (spread out in 15-20 min increments, so about 3-4 times a day), it's not too hard to find what you're looking for.
Just message who you're interested in, see if you can agree on a ppm (or do that later, up to you but I think it saves time upfront) and meet up.
If you can't agree, then move on. I generally lowball and see if any bite, or if not, then offer a little more but never above my max. I've gotten a fair amount of young (under 30) sbs that way, and kept them in cycle until I got bored or better came along.
Good luck!
Here is my seeking arrangement report. It sucks! It is very time consuming but you do get alot of interest and text if anyone is in to playing the game. I've not even contact 'gorgeous' or extremely hot looking model but regular MILF and everyone of them quote like $500. Is that way too high or what? I know I am supposed to to play the game for a greet and meet but everyone of them have wanted something first or ask for donation amount.
I will give a few weeks and report back but initial outing is very poor!
Cityslicker.I've never once done a meet and greet and have hooked up with a couple dozen from the site, only once paying more than 200 and occasionally not paying anything at all.
Are most of the ads on the site Pro? Base on their writing, they look to be ordinary people looking for financial support in exchange for service. I'm very interested but have yet to take the plunge. Any advice or recommendations from fellow readers are very welcome.
Cityslicker.The pros are relatively easy to spot. I immediately eliminate anyone who has more than one pic from a hotel room. (floors, bedsheets, showers, sinks are all clues). Plus if you've spent any time at all perusing BP before it died, you should have a sense of the. Vibe. A pro puts off.
Welcome to the Bowl. First off, it is a learning process, is time consuming, can be frustrating if you let it get to you, but the bottom line it is very rewarding when you're reaping the fruits of your effort.
3. Do not overpay. Aka GPS. This is obviously subjective and some cities command higher allowances. Two. Three hundred seems acceptable to many sb's for a couple hours of their time. Not many jobs provide that kind of hourly compensation. Do the math. Of course, this is a free country and they can ask for whatever they want, and you can pay whatever you want. Simple market economics. There are a lot of fish out there, and you may not get the one that you "must have" unless you cough up big allowance. Give it a day, there will be other opportunities.
To clarify here, 200-300 seems to work well. I've had quite a few sb's happy with 200-250, more will accept 300, most 400, nearly all at 500. GPS is a problem, SD's need to learn how to negotiate or move on. There are plenty of sb's out there happy with 100+ per hour.
FarFarAway
01-25-19, 15:49
To clarify here, 200-300 seems to work well. I've had quite a few sb's happy with 200-250, more will accept 300, most 400, nearly all at 500. GPS is a problem, SD's need to learn how to negotiate or move on. There are plenty of sb's out there happy with 100+ per hour.Just my take on things, if you have someone discussing hours, or a menu, they are essentially a BP girl, not a SB. I'd like to keep those kinds off of seeking.com, the more of them there are, the more likely it gets shut down the way BP was. The site is the only place people like me looking for real ongoing arrangements can find them. Escorts violate the terms of service, and I report every one of those who message w / that vibe.
Just my take on things, if you have someone discussing hours, or a menu, they are essentially a BP girl, not a SB. I'd like to keep those kinds off of seeking.com, the more of them there are, the more likely it gets shut down the way BP was. The site is the only place people like me looking for real ongoing arrangements can find them. Escorts violate the terms of service, and I report every one of those who message w / that vibe.I never said we were discussing hours or a menu. Ultimately it boils down to money and time, the sb can see she is getting a couple hundred for a few hours of their time compared to the part time job where they make about the same in one week as one date with a SD. Granted there are "pros", semi pros, pseudo pro sbs, or whatever you want to call them. As for violating TOS, most of us fall in that camp by utilizing ppm.
These two new wannabe POT sb's profile have nearly the same wording. Also created at about the same time. Probably some time wasters or scammers looking to mess with you, or. ?
Fundme.
https://www.seeking.com/member/797836c2-8416-4824-aaf3-f81b0e855283
Moneygirl.
https://www.seeking.com/member/64b69705-12a4-4178-981e-902288832054
Tennis Nut
01-27-19, 13:07
These two new wannabe POT sb's profile have nearly the same wording. Also created at about the same time. Probably some time wasters or scammers looking to mess with you, or. ?
Fundme.
https://www.seeking.com/member/797836c2-8416-4824-aaf3-f81b0e855283
Moneygirl.
https://www.seeking.com/member/64b69705-12a4-4178-981e-902288832054I think one of two things when I see a coincidence like this: 1) There's a pimp writing their profiles (unlikely) or 2) these girls signed up together and used each other's ideas in their profiles. That said, I think you're right, they both sound like they want money for nothing--or very little. I'm always amused by the girls who want platonic relationships and / or want money for photos. Good luck with that!
FarFarAway
01-27-19, 18:41
I think one of two things when I see a coincidence like this: 1) There's a pimp writing their profiles (unlikely) or 2) these girls signed up together and used each other's ideas in their profiles. That said, I think you're right, they both sound like they want money for nothing--or very little. I'm always amused by the girls who want platonic relationships and / or want money for photos. Good luck with that!Please, please, stay away from the girls who list platonic on their profiles. Leave them for me. There are at least 3 different reasons girls put that there, including the fear that someone will see their profile who they know, and they don't want to look like sluts. There are girls who also swear up and down that they have / had SDs who paid them thousands for platonic dates. There's a great story where a SD had inside info about the GF of a POT who he was messaging on the site. His POT swore that her bowlbuddy said she was getting all this $ for nothing, and the SD had earlier banged the girl dozens of times at 200 per. You never know what a girl is up to without messaging her, and you never know what a girl will require for sugar without meeting her.
PussyPumper
01-29-19, 05:11
Over a year now since I got to dip my wick in a pretty rear, so I am getting an urge.
If anyone can share some specific tips, then please PM me.
For public discussion here, what do others find? I only had one SB go Greek with me. Is Greek common or out of the ordinary with the SBs here?
FarFarAway
01-29-19, 17:59
Over a year now since I got to dip my wick in a pretty rear, so I am getting an urge.
If anyone can share some specific tips, then please PM me.
For public discussion here, what do others find? I only had one SB go Greek with me. Is Greek common or out of the ordinary with the SBs here?Had some specifically bring it up as a no-go at the M&G, otherwise not mentioned, but I don't partake, so it's not an issue. I give them a hint that 'I wouldn't shock' them.
SDMonger69
01-29-19, 20:28
https://www.seeking.com/member/1a372d07-0f60-4dff-b3fb-c43dfe4c89e0
Has anyone had any interaction with her? She's been viewing my profile a lot and sending me inviting messages but won't seem to commit to anything or be direct about what she wants. She seems interested and at the same time wushu-washy.
City Slicker
01-30-19, 15:26
Any SD boys seen or have experience with her? Seems to be legit and I want to set something up with her. Haven't agreed to price but she looks very nice.
https://www.seeking.com/member/20fcd868-09c7-4429-a75f-054088a4935f
SeaTownGuy
01-30-19, 18:38
Any SD boys seen or have experience with her? Seems to be legit and I want to set something up with her. Haven't agreed to price but she looks very nice.
https://www.seeking.com/member/20fcd868-09c7-4429-a75f-054088a4935fShe had an old profile. She is VERY HOT. More GFE. Safe.
http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?25526-Sugar-Daddy-amp-Other-Related-Websites&p=3837354&viewfull=1#post3837354.
City Slicker
01-30-19, 18:54
She had an old profile. She is VERY HOT. More GFE. Safe.
http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?25526-Sugar-Daddy-amp-Other-Related-Websites&p=3837354&viewfull=1#post3837354.She came down to $400 and it for like 2 hrs of bedroom time. I might just indulge but wanted to keep the price down for the fellas. Haven't had any luck with non-pro or young'un so MILF is what I will settle for.
PussyPumper
01-30-19, 20:46
Just noticed a profile for a 71 year old with 4 kids, looking for a younger man. She is not looking for anyone "loosing steam"!
Wow. I wonder how old she really is!
She came down to $400 and it for like 2 hrs of bedroom time. I might just indulge but wanted to keep the price down for the fellas. Haven't had any luck with non-pro or young'un so MILF is what I will settle for.She keeps texting me every week coming down 50 each time. We're currently at 300. No dice. I ain't giving allowance to a woman I can match on Bumble.
City Slicker
01-31-19, 12:04
She keeps texting me every week coming down 50 each time. We're currently at 300. No dice. I ain't giving allowance to a woman I can match on Bumble.I counter 300 but she said lowest is 400. Damn! Maybe I will play the wait game.
TwoBlueBalls
02-03-19, 00:13
I counter 300 but she said lowest is 400. Damn! Maybe I will play the wait game.Definition of Golden Pussy Syndrome!
PussyPumper
02-03-19, 03:41
Over the last week I have noticed multiple new profiles. At least 4 - listing two locations. One is Eugene, OR, and the other San Diego.
It is just not possible that so many genuine women would sign up with those two improbable locations within a week. Has to be a scam. Anyone got any idea as to what the scam is? I did not contact any of them.
Over the last week I have noticed multiple new profiles. At least 4 - listing two locations. One is Eugene, OR, and the other San Diego.
It is just not possible that so many genuine women would sign up with those two improbable locations within a week. Has to be a scam. Anyone got any idea as to what the scam is? I did not contact any of them.Check out the instagram acct "_farihaxahmed" Stay alert guys.
Tennis Nut
02-04-19, 21:10
https://www.seeking.com/member/9bacb645-b8bf-45e4-bd11-7b9dc281af5b
She was quick to accept my offer of texting each other rather than messaging each other on the site. She sent me some sexy pix. Then, after jerking me around all day (disappearing and then re-appearing) she said I needed to go through her booking process to meet with her. Her booking process? Yes, without getting specific, she said I needed to send a partial payment to her management. She didn't specific how or how much. I wrote an asked her if she thought I was stupid, born yesterday, or both. I told her there was no way I was going to send money to a total stranger. I don't care what their BBB rating is. She said, "Oh, well, then we're not getting together. " I wrote back, you're damn right we're not. ".
There was a guy on here recently who said he was going to report all pros to the admin of SA. Well, I guess she is going to be one of them.
PussyPumper
02-05-19, 21:56
Anyone else had the pleasure of meeting Lexi?
https://www.seeking.com/member/9e83f71d-8bcf-4928-972d-0259b8089536
Positives:
Tiny Asian spinner.
Insatiable. Loves it. Keeps on going as long or longer than you can. Got 3 out of me.
Loves to DP herself. Toy and you. Either way around.
Took me in the rear!
Photos are accurate.
Negatives:
Minimal oral or kissing.
Bolt-ons are obviously so. Hard.
Older than stated. Probably around 10 years off.
PM for anything else.
William Monroe
02-10-19, 15:59
Question. If I let my premium lapse for a month or two then re-up will I have my previous messages?
Also will say I am finding things to be as described here. Seems the older ladies, my preference as I'm in my 60's, well they seem to want high Dollar. You spend a lot of time chatting, even m&g only to hear $350-$500.
The one I've got going is for $200 but our schedules don't work too well. No I wonder whether any of the other ladies I'm talking with will work out.
I'll probably do another month.
Question. If I let my premium lapse for a month or two then re-up will I have my previous messages?
Yes your messages will still be there as long as you don't delete then.
PussyPumper
02-11-19, 03:49
Question. If I let my premium lapse for a month or two then re-up will I have my previous messages?
Also will say I am finding things to be as described here. Seems the older ladies, my preference as I'm in my 60's, well they seem to want high Dollar. You spend a lot of time chatting, even m&g only to hear $350-$500.
The one I've got going is for $200 but our schedules don't work too well. No I wonder whether any of the other ladies I'm talking with will work out.
I'll probably do another month.1) Yes, your messages will all still be there.
2) I was one of those who previously stated that the MILFS want (ask for) more money. I stand by that.
In addition, they usually have more commitments (work, kids), invariably have had bad experiences, and they are often bitter. Younger / students are better in all respects: better bodies, hotter, not burned out / bitter, fewer commitments, need less money, more flexible,.
3) If you get a high ask, never, ever say no / walk away. Do the opposite. Tell them what they want is reasonable! But unfortunately, you can't go that high, because of X, why, Z. I have had considerable success with this approach. Just one example, I talked our local porn star down from a 600 ask to my usual offer of 300.
3) If you get a high ask, never, ever say no / walk away. Do the opposite. Tell them what they want is reasonable! But unfortunately, you can't go that high, because of X, why, Z. I have had considerable success with this approach. Just one example, I talked our local porn star down from a 600 ask to my usual offer of 300.Can vouch for this approach.
Will especially work if you have some charm or other attractive qualities.
It's a definite mind-fuck for them because:
(1) Most men are rude / disrespectful if a pot gives them a figure out of their budget. Or they just ghost them, probably because theyre scared to say no and look "cheap".
(2) Telling them that they're reasonable for asking that is so far out of the norm that it's a conscious interrupt for them.
(3) Giving sound reasoning why it's out of your budget & being willing to walk away shows you're not desperate and have some principles.
Had a girl asking for $2 k / mo up front, and that she wasn't willing to negotiate. Looks like she could be a Kardashian.
Told her:
(1) that she's justified for asking that, and that I respect it, but.
(2) it's out of my budget.
(3) I'm glad that she doesn't want to negotiate it, and that I don't either because I wouldn't want her feeling disrespected or short-changed, and.
(4) I'm sure she'll find someone that she actually likes, that will give her what she's looking for and then some.
(3) is what really mind-fucked her.
She blew my phone up for hours wanting to talk about it (I ignored her purposefully).
Got her down to $300/ meet once a week.
FarFarAway
02-12-19, 13:34
Can vouch for this approach.
Will especially work if you have some charm or other attractive qualities.
It's a definite mind-fuck for them because:
(1) Most men are rude / disrespectful if a pot gives them a figure out of their budget. Or they just ghost them, probably because theyre scared to say no and look "cheap".
(2) Telling them that they're reasonable for asking that is so far out of the norm that it's a conscious interrupt for them.
(3) Giving sound reasoning why it's out of your budget & being willing to walk away shows you're not desperate and have some principles.
Had a girl asking for $2 k / mo up front, and that she wasn't willing to negotiate. Looks like she could be a Kardashian.
Told her:
(1) that she's justified for asking that, and that I respect it, but.
(2) it's out of my budget.
(3) I'm glad that she doesn't want to negotiate it, and that I don't either because I wouldn't want her feeling disrespected or short-changed, and.
(4) I'm sure she'll find someone that she actually likes, that will give her what she's looking for and then some.
(3) is what really mind-fucked her.
She blew my phone up for hours wanting to talk about it (I ignored her purposefully).
Got her down to $300/ meet once a week.I think that's a reasonable approach, if you're negotiating electronically. I try never to do that, I think women are much more conservative in their ask if they are face-to-face. No one wants rejection, even if they have GPS. When one tells me she was getting 6-800 per meet, or a big monthly, I say (nicely) that she should go back and find the SD that provided it, because it was out of my budget. I do have an explanation, I'm looking upscale to her, but I have a SO I must hide the $ from, so that is my reason for not meeting her ask.
I had a M&G w / a lovely Latina (in the IE) and we had instant chemistry, but she went through the above ask. I told her (generally) it was too high, I was surprised she didn't start negotiation w / me, we got along so well. But if they get a 'value' in their mind, often it can be hard to shake.
In my experience, if a POT ever says stuff like 'I know my worth', the conversation has turned for the worse, and you should try to establish the bottom line quickly and determine if you are game for it. If that is in the profile, I skip it, b / c you can be sure that the worth that she knows is a big number.
JakeDSnake
02-16-19, 14:44
I counter 300 but she said lowest is 400. Damn! Maybe I will play the wait game.Met her twice late last year. It came down to $300 for multiple hours. Be patient and you'll be rewarded. Cheers!
Marc De Cafe
02-17-19, 01:02
Hello all. I just joined here. Seems everyone is referencing Seeking, so want to join there. I think I used to have account there when it was maybe called Selling Arrangements, but left because it became too much of a hassle to pay anonymously. I read here can use prepaid Vanilla Visa card, so went to store but seemed like there MIGHT be 2 kinds as some of the cards said something like "no charge after initial fee" whereas others did not.
I would very much appreciate it if someone please tell me. EXACTLY which card works and also anything else I will need to make this work!
Hello all. I just joined here. Seems everyone is referencing Seeking, so want to join there. I think I used to have account there when it was maybe called Selling Arrangements, but left because it became too much of a hassle to pay anonymously. I read here can use prepaid Vanilla Visa card, so went to store but seemed like there MIGHT be 2 kinds as some of the cards said something like "no charge after initial fee" whereas others did not.
I would very much appreciate it if someone please tell me. EXACTLY which card works and also anything else I will need to make this work!Thread # 801 & 795 confirmed that Vanilla brand Visa works. I have tried different types of Vanilla brand of the prepaid cards, they all work.
Marc De Cafe
02-17-19, 16:33
Thread # 801 & 795 confirmed that Vanilla brand Visa works. I have tried different types of Vanilla brand of the prepaid cards, they all work.Thank you. I will look at the threads you mention. I just recall something about need address, but it did not have to be correct, but maybe needed correct zip code?
JakeDSnake
02-18-19, 14:05
https://www.seeking.com/member/f2f852eb-fa5d-486d-8b68-1b751d5a9080
$300 for multiple hours last month. Just increased her goal to $600 which is way too much.
PoonHound1969
02-18-19, 14:55
https://www.seeking.com/member/f2f852eb-fa5d-486d-8b68-1b751d5a9080
$300 for multiple hours last month. Just increased her goal to $600 which is way too much.300 hundred she's a keeper I would do 6 for weekends.
Still a freaking hottie you lucky bastard!
SdWalkerSam
02-18-19, 18:07
Thread # 801 & 795 confirmed that Vanilla brand Visa works. I have tried different types of Vanilla brand of the prepaid cards, they all work.I used an Amex prepaid card bought at Walmart. It doesn't have monthly recurring fees etc.
Damn. She is hot. And that ass. My gosh. And she is willing to BBFS. Lovely.
https://www.seeking.com/member/f2f852eb-fa5d-486d-8b68-1b751d5a9080
$300 for multiple hours last month. Just increased her goal to $600 which is way too much.
https://www.seeking.com/member/f2f852eb-fa5d-486d-8b68-1b751d5a9080
$300 for multiple hours last month. Just increased her goal to $600 which is way too much.OMFG! Best pic of 2019 by a mile. Congrats to you for landing that pretty young lady and that view. Damn!!
She reached out to me and said we should meet and see if we connect. Message a little and move to texting. Due to my schedule, set a M&G for a couple days later near where she lives. Continue to chat and I ask, if we "connect" is moving on to the main event ok. She replies yes, so we begin negotiating allowance. Claims her typical is 500, I counter with 200 and says she's good with that. Pay attention prospective daddies, don't cave right away and give away the farm. A couple hours before our date, she texts that if sex is involved, she typically gets 500. I remind her of our prior discussion. No response. After 30 minutes I text I'm moving on, I'm sure there are plenty of other $500 guys out there and good luck in your search. That got things going again. Now she just wants to meet for dinner and drinks and we can talk about it and suggests a waterfront dining option. I counter with a local hole in the wall fish place that has great food but without the inflated prices and "fine dining" experience. After all this, I was in no mood to impress / spend lots of $/ cater to / slobber over / some POT that has gps or at a minimum is a professional meet and greeter.
Sorry, my mistake.
https://www.seeking.com/member/c244717b-b498-453f-87c2-d1f17c1d1bea
https://www.seeking.com/member/0155086a-6286-4ab7-b745-6cd781ad8c93
https://www.seeking.com/member/a7ec53dc-f257-46b8-a4a2-e46c4cc9242c
They (if you see the pics) are the same person and want 200 $ for professional M&G. So she hit me up saying that they would love to meet and I will have to pay them upfront. Afterwards they will direct me to their apartment via text (which sounded like a bait and decided to ghost them).
https://www.seeking.com/member/0155086a-6286-4ab7-b745-6cd781ad8c93
https://www.seeking.com/member/a7ec53dc-f257-46b8-a4a2-e46c4cc9242c
They (if you see the pics) are the same person and want 200 $ for professional M&G. So she hit me up saying that they would love to meet and I will have to pay them upfront. Afterwards they will direct me to their apartment via text (which sounded like a bait and decided to ghost them).This would be a cool play. Go along with this charade and set up your M&G. When they text that they are at the meeting place and "where are you?" Text back and say "I'm trying to get your money, but the ATM is closed!
CandyMan555
02-23-19, 15:09
I am visiting for only two days and I would appreciate recommendations for a GFE baby as I do not have much time to have a meet and greet, I need a "sure thing " F / S GFE sugar baby I appreciate your help Thanks M.
JakeDSnake
02-28-19, 12:10
She reached out to me and said we should meet and see if we connect. Message a little and move to texting. Due to my schedule, set a M&G for a couple days later near where she lives. Continue to chat and I ask, if we "connect" is moving on to the main event ok. She replies yes, so we begin negotiating allowance. Claims her typical is 500, I counter with 200 and says she's good with that. Pay attention prospective daddies, don't cave right away and give away the farm. A couple hours before our date, she texts that if sex is involved, she typically gets 500. I remind her of our prior discussion. No response. After 30 minutes I text I'm moving on, I'm sure there are plenty of other $500 guys out there and good luck in your search. That got things going again. Now she just wants to meet for dinner and drinks and we can talk about it and suggests a waterfront dining option. I counter with a local hole in the wall fish place that has great food but without the inflated prices and "fine dining" experience. After all this, I was in no mood to impress / spend lots of $/ cater to / slobber over / some POT that has gps or at a minimum is a professional meet and greeter.I agree on all counts. If the $ sounds unreasonable and that sense of being just reeled in via M&G, I'm out.
JakeDSnake
03-01-19, 13:19
https://www.seeking.com/member/62933b03-b0e7-4426-9394-fc3b5a286aac
This one I have been in touch with for months through SA messaging. We started using text four weeks ago (I use my hobby phone) and talked about meeting for wine on Wednesday. Then she asked how am I going to compensate her for the meet. I told her that I usually don't pay anyone ever just to chat in person. She then said, "Forget it then. " LOL.
Where could I read about tips on sugardaddying? Are there any forums that are made for newbies?
Sachmo1655
03-02-19, 20:49
Where could I read about tips on sugardaddying? Are there any forums that are made for newbies?Paul in Columbus, Ohio. I've had good success, 614-622-0133, text of you have questions.
CandyMan555
03-02-19, 23:35
Where could I read about tips on sugardaddying? Are there any forums that are made for newbies?Try Richmond VA site wealth of info I need help on a GFE S A woman from san Diego as I am visiting next week I only am here for 2 days so I have to be right on the money for performance Thanks CM.
https://www.seeking.com/member/12c4a02b-d49c-4504-b828-589fe02998da
Been messaging this one and then we took it to text. Wants $300 PPM. I had countered with $200 but haven't heard back.
https://www.seeking.com/member/498e17f2-4898-4d48-a2aa-7691a65d533e
This one wanted $400 PPM. I talked her down to $200 but haven't been able to meet up yet. She tried telling me that guys were paying her $250 for HJ, $300 for BJ and $400 for sex LOL. My initial offer was $1. 5 and she said she would give me a HJ for that. LOL I'm not paying $1.5 for something I can do myself. Don't give in to these delusional girls fellas. There are plenty girls out there that'll accept your offers.
FarFarAway
03-03-19, 13:17
https://www.seeking.com/member/12c4a02b-d49c-4504-b828-589fe02998da
Been messaging this one and then we took it to text. Wants $300 PPM. I had countered with $200 but haven't heard back.
https://www.seeking.com/member/498e17f2-4898-4d48-a2aa-7691a65d533e
This one wanted $400 PPM. I talked her down to $200 but haven't been able to meet up yet. She tried telling me that guys were paying her $250 for HJ, $300 for BJ and $400 for sex LOL. My initial offer was $1. 5 and she said she would give me a HJ for that. LOL I'm not paying $1.5 for something I can do myself. Don't give in to these delusional girls fellas. There are plenty girls out there that'll accept your offers.Just my view, but IDK that I would call a girl who wants 300 golden pussy syndrome. The ultimate $ is a function of both what you can negotiate and what you bring to the table, and what kind of experience you'd like. You may be a 30 YO Brad Pitt look-alike, and then you'll get a girl for less. I recommend always negotiating face to face, you're sure to get her top price if you do it electronically.
Where could I read about tips on sugardaddying? Are there any forums that are made for newbies?Join the site and get on their email list. I get about four or five emails a week with stories and pretty good advice. Granted, they make it sound easier than it probably is, but the real letters are pretty good.
C3.
FarFarAway
03-04-19, 02:17
Where could I read about tips on sugardaddying? Are there any forums that are made for newbies?Go to the RIchmond, VA page, and there is both an active forum and an archive of all the key past posts.
SdWalkerSam
03-04-19, 03:36
Sorry, my mistake.
https://www.seeking.com/member/c244717b-b498-453f-87c2-d1f17c1d1beaThis chick reached out to me too. Wants to hangout, but doesn't have a car. So I got to pick her up and head out to drink etc. Apparently nothing else.
FarFarAway
03-04-19, 19:17
This chick reached out to me too. Wants to hangout, but doesn't have a car. So I got to pick her up and head out to drink etc. Apparently nothing else.You can send an uber for her. You could also just offer to pay for her uber.
CandyMan555
03-04-19, 23:02
I am visiting San Diego next week for two days and need recommendations for a ' SURE THING" GFE no drama non curvy Sugar Baby.
PM is fine Thanks CM.
SdWalkerSam
03-06-19, 02:51
You can send an uber for her. You could also just offer to pay for her uber.Yeah, she flaked anyway.
PussyPumper
03-06-19, 21:02
Every so often someone makes a reference to an SB having "daddy issues", or "serious daddy issues". Can anyone give examples?
I met one SB who wanted to call me daddy, but that was about it. So, I don't think there is really that much of this out there?
Every so often someone makes a reference to an SB having "daddy issues", or "serious daddy issues". Can anyone give examples?
I met one SB who wanted to call me daddy, but that was about it. So, I don't think there is really that much of this out there?You have lead a major sheltered life. Try Googling Daddy Issues. I did and here is a paragraph I found that tells it like it is.
Daddy issues in a woman can be a man's best friend. And also the worst. On the one hand, meeting a girl with a fucked up relationship with her father can mean a modest, docile dynamo-in-the-sack who'll come over to your house on short notice to have rough sex and bake cookies for you afterward. On the other hand, it can signal that you're about to embark on a clusterfuck rollercoaster ride with a head case—that'll likely end with the cops coming to your house, you having to repaint your car, or having to call Verizon Wireless to block a number from reaching your "handset. ".
Every so often someone makes a reference to an SB having "daddy issues", or "serious daddy issues". Can anyone give examples?
I met one SB who wanted to call me daddy, but that was about it. So, I don't think there is really that much of this out there?OMG, I wonder if we are dipping in the same sugar bowl! As far as I can tell ALL of the SB's I've hooked up with have had Daddy issues. Just manifested in different ways. About a quarter of them are completely unsubltle. They want to be spanked while carrying out this dialogue: "but I'm Daddy, I'm a GOOD girl. ".
Most of them are less obvious, but if you talk to them for more than two minutes they will tell you about their missing Daddy. I don't think I have a single one who both had a Daddy and had a good relationship with him. I have noticed that these girls are markedly more submissive as a group than other women I have met in my life. I may not be able to prove it, but I'm convinced there is a causal correlation. Maybe it's just a matter of who I'm attracted to / who falls for my BS. I dunno.
They want to be spanked while carrying out this dialogue: "but I'm Daddy, I'm a GOOD girl. "I'm still new on here, so I guess I can't edit my post. This was supposed to read: "but Daddy, I'm a GOOD girl. " Any SB who says "I'm Daddy" has a different set of issues!
DanteHaversham
03-07-19, 15:18
OMG, I wonder if we are dipping in the same sugar bowl! As far as I can tell ALL of the SB's I've hooked up with have had Daddy issues. Just manifested in different ways. About a quarter of them are completely unsubltle. They want to be spanked while carrying out this dialogue: "but I'm Daddy, I'm a GOOD girl. ".
Most of them are less obvious, but if you talk to them for more than two minutes they will tell you about their missing Daddy. I don't think I have a single one who both had a Daddy and had a good relationship with him. I have noticed that these girls are markedly more submissive as a group than other women I have met in my life. I may not be able to prove it, but I'm convinced there is a causal correlation. Maybe it's just a matter of who I'm attracted to / who falls for my BS. I dunno.Same experience for me.
You have lead a major sheltered life. Try Googling Daddy Issues. I did and here is a paragraph I found that tells it like it is.
Daddy issues in a woman can be a man's best friend. And also the worst. On the one hand, meeting a girl with a fucked up relationship with her father can mean a modest, docile dynamo-in-the-sack who'll come over to your house on short notice to have rough sex and bake cookies for you afterward. On the other hand, it can signal that you're about to embark on a clusterfuck rollercoaster ride with a head casethat'll likely end with the cops coming to your house, you having to repaint your car, or having to call Verizon Wireless to block a number from reaching your "handset. ".I have a regular that I think qualifies and I have learned to use it to my advantage. I met with her one time right after I showered and she noticed I used Irish Spring. She said her father (who left her and her mom when she was young) used Irish Spring and proceeded to jump me like there was no tomorrow, calling me Daddy the whole time. I make sure to use Irish Spring everything when I go to see her.
Just sayin'.
C3.
PussyPumper
03-08-19, 00:58
OMG, I wonder if we are dipping in the same sugar bowl! As far as I can tell ALL of the SB's I've hooked up with have had Daddy issues. Just manifested in different ways. About a quarter of them are completely unsubltle. They want to be spanked while carrying out this dialogue: "but Daddy, I'm a GOOD girl. ".
Most of them are less obvious, but if you talk to them for more than two minutes they will tell you about their missing Daddy. I don't think I have a single one who both had a Daddy and had a good relationship with him. I have noticed that these girls are markedly more submissive as a group than other women I have met in my life. I may not be able to prove it, but I'm convinced there is a causal correlation. Maybe it's just a matter of who I'm attracted to / who falls for my BS. I dunno.I am old enough to be the grandpa of some of them, so the whole "daddy" thing makes me squirm a bit. Makes me think of the age gap, which I try hard not to think of too much.
That said, the one girl who did insist on calling me daddy also wanted to be spanked. How she got off on that. Gushed wet like crazy.
PussyPumper
03-08-19, 03:26
A strategy question. I tend to avoid SB profiles that say they are a princess or queen. I assume they are suffering from GPS. Am I correct, or missing out?
PussyPumper
03-11-19, 02:13
Remaining anonymous when dealing with SA is a necessity. That means using prepaid credit cards or gift cards to pay the SA subscription fee. When I first started, I tried to use prepaid MC and Visa cards. None worked. My understanding is that this is because the cards were only valid for US domestic transactions, while SA use an international credit card processor. Happily, there was a solution. The Amex green Serve card. This was:
- Valid for international transactions.
- Had zero (0) up front charge.
- A $4. 95 monthly fee that was only charged after a month.
With these features, the Amex card could be used for free, on a one-time basis.
Until now, that is. Just went to get another one. Found that things have changed, now:
- $2. 95 Fee to buy.
- $6. 95 monthly fee, payable when activated.
So the Amex green card now costs $10 to use. While this may be trivial in the big scheme of things, Amex make their money elsewhere (on transaction fees), and going from $0 to $10 is a big increase ☺.
Anyone know if low-cost alternatives such ad "green dot" Visa (cards work with SA?
Remaining anonymous when dealing with SA is a necessity. That means using prepaid credit cards or gift cards to pay the SA subscription fee. When I first started, I tried to use prepaid MC and Visa cards. None worked. My understanding is that this is because the cards were only valid for US domestic transactions, while SA use an international credit card processor. Happily, there was a solution. The Amex green Serve card. This was:
- Valid for international transactions.
- Had zero (0) up front charge.
- A $4. 95 monthly fee that was only charged after a month.
With these features, the Amex card could be used for free, on a one-time basis.
Until now, that is. Just went to get another one. Found that things have changed, now:
- $2. 95 Fee to buy.
- $6. 95 monthly fee, payable when activated.
So the Amex green card now costs $10 to use. While this may be trivial in the big scheme of things, Amex make their money elsewhere (on transaction fees), and going from $0 to $10 is a big increase ☺.
Anyone know if low-cost alternatives such ad "green dot" Visa (cards work with SA?Pussy Pumper, I have seen this question asked many times and don't understand it. I use gift cards to pay every month and it works fine. I use OneVanilla cards purchased from either CVS or Walmart. At CVS card costs $6 and at Walmert $5. No monthly fee. I have used both Visa and Mastercard gift cards. You can load up to $500 at a time on them, so if you buy at Walmart and load it to the $500 max, the fee is only 1%. You can pay SA for five months with it, also use it to pay the bill on your burner, hotel rooms etc.
I think the only "trick" to making a OneVanilla card work for paying SA is to go on the OneVanilla website and register a zip code for the card. Good luck.
Remaining anonymous when dealing with SA is a necessity. That means using prepaid credit cards or gift cards to pay the SA subscription fee. When I first started, I tried to use prepaid MC and Visa cards. None worked. My understanding is that this is because the cards were only valid for US domestic transactions, while SA use an international credit card processor. Happily, there was a solution. The Amex green Serve card. This was:
- Valid for international transactions.
- Had zero (0) up front charge.
- A $4. 95 monthly fee that was only charged after a month.
With these features, the Amex card could be used for free, on a one-time basis.
Until now, that is. Just went to get another one. Found that things have changed, now:
- $2. 95 Fee to buy.
- $6. 95 monthly fee, payable when activated.
So the Amex green card now costs $10 to use. While this may be trivial in the big scheme of things, Amex make their money elsewhere (on transaction fees), and going from $0 to $10 is a big increase ☺.
Anyone know if low-cost alternatives such ad "green dot" Visa (cards work with SA?The key word is "re-loadable. " If you see that, avoid. If I'm not mistaken, the green dot is a reloadable card, which means you will need to enter SSN for activation, it's like opening a bank account, they can even ask you to show your ID, hold your money and never issue a refund.
I can also vouch for vanilla gift cards working for SA. I did assign a zip and no problem. Nice tip!
MassageBros
03-18-19, 16:42
I can also vouch for vanilla gift cards working for SA. I did assign a zip and no problem. Nice tip!What is SA?
Thank you.
SeaTownGuy
03-19-19, 00:15
Some serious GPS.
Southafricanbeauty - $800 for single shot - https://www.seeking.com/member/48351bd8-c5a5-437e-9818-7813357940f4.
Maddison baby - $700 - https://www.seeking.com/member/60e1a2bc-a740-7f90-b8ad-a0d0db8141e2.
Kalifornialuv - $2500 - https://www.seeking.com/member/d48f543b-3cbc-47e6-9f9b-a56862573730.
Penelope_01 - $4000/ month - https://www.seeking.com/member/af4f486b-9b76-41c0-baf9-a435b00a2a54.
Happy7887 - $700 - https://www.seeking.com/member/faf6c9be-5c67-4428-b63e-5a14de3a91e1.
Sugarangel425 - $800 - https://www.seeking.com/member/db81084c-062b-479b-9c45-50bb2673e4f4.
Thenalove - $700 - https://www.seeking.com/member/136193f6-ff79-4f3e-9716-fbea532395d3.
Jess - $700 - https://www.seeking.com/member/4ad411dc-3ba3-b057-4571-66eb336e1b26.
Zoo Guy1959
03-19-19, 00:48
What is SA?Thank you.1) Click on a link in the post immediately after yours.
2) Scroll down on the window that comes up to "about us".
3) Click on that and what do you see under "Our Mission"?
As did "The Facebook", it shortened its name.
Some serious GPS.
Southafricanbeauty - $800 for single shot - https://www.seeking.com/member/48351bd8-c5a5-437e-9818-7813357940f4.
Maddison baby - $700 - https://www.seeking.com/member/60e1a2bc-a740-7f90-b8ad-a0d0db8141e2.
Kalifornialuv - $2500 - https://www.seeking.com/member/d48f543b-3cbc-47e6-9f9b-a56862573730.
Penelope_01 - $4000/ month - https://www.seeking.com/member/af4f486b-9b76-41c0-baf9-a435b00a2a54.
Happy7887 - $700 - https://www.seeking.com/member/faf6c9be-5c67-4428-b63e-5a14de3a91e1.
Sugarangel425 - $800 - https://www.seeking.com/member/db81084c-062b-479b-9c45-50bb2673e4f4.
Thenalove - $700 - https://www.seeking.com/member/136193f6-ff79-4f3e-9716-fbea532395d3.
Jess - $700 - https://www.seeking.com/member/4ad411dc-3ba3-b057-4571-66eb336e1b26.What is your technique for getting a price? Perhaps you just outright ask. I'm still very new to SA and it is taking me forever to get to the prices. I would be angry spending as much time as I do only to hear those numbers!
Are there non-gps prices to be had or is this the new normal? I've had one say 3 and that was a lot to me.
Cruzier.
TwoBlueBalls
03-21-19, 03:35
Sugarangel I'd consider for half her asking price, but the only thing I'd give the rest of those gals is crabs! To be clearly, I'm not talking about dinner at Joes Crabshack. Interesting post!
Some serious GPS.
Southafricanbeauty - $800 for single shot - https://www.seeking.com/member/48351bd8-c5a5-437e-9818-7813357940f4.
Maddison baby - $700 - https://www.seeking.com/member/60e1a2bc-a740-7f90-b8ad-a0d0db8141e2.
Kalifornialuv - $2500 - https://www.seeking.com/member/d48f543b-3cbc-47e6-9f9b-a56862573730.
Penelope_01 - $4000/ month - https://www.seeking.com/member/af4f486b-9b76-41c0-baf9-a435b00a2a54.
Happy7887 - $700 - https://www.seeking.com/member/faf6c9be-5c67-4428-b63e-5a14de3a91e1.
Sugarangel425 - $800 - https://www.seeking.com/member/db81084c-062b-479b-9c45-50bb2673e4f4.
Thenalove - $700 - https://www.seeking.com/member/136193f6-ff79-4f3e-9716-fbea532395d3.
Jess - $700 - https://www.seeking.com/member/4ad411dc-3ba3-b057-4571-66eb336e1b26.
OcasianBoy
03-22-19, 08:42
https://www.seeking.com/member/4f781afb-9403-4116-96d4-bf38fb6456fb
Asian girl cool with ppm. Anybody seen her or have any info?
What is your technique for getting a price? Perhaps you just outright ask. I'm still very new to SA and it is taking me forever to get to the prices. I would be angry spending as much time as I do only to hear those numbers!
Are there non-gps prices to be had or is this the new normal? I've had one say 3 and that was a lot to me.
Cruzier.Here's my technique: I don't ask and I don't get to a price. Ever. It is amazing how many girls will go the the FC with you (or at least will go the FC with me!) without any discussion of price. For me, this is a way to weed out the real pro's because I prefer a less professional vibe. I don't think any true professional is going to do you without a clear agreement on price. I know I miss out on some good looking semi-pros this way, but it also helps me focus on the real non-pros. It takes more time than just throwing out numbers online, but I believe it yields better results.
Most of the time, I just ask to meet me for a coffee or a drink. If they insist talking on numbers before meeting, I don't meet them. Sometimes I play along with talking numbers online for "market research," but I never meet any of those girls. At the meet & greet, I size them up and decide whether to pursue. Almost always I do pursue because they are usually quite good looking. I've only had a few bring up cash at M&G. One of them said she wanted to text about it afterwards. She accepted my offer and went straight to FC second meet. The others all asked about cash at M&G, accepted the offer and went to FC first meet. Assuming they don't bring up cash, at some point in the M&G, I ask them if they want to purse an arrangement right away, or ask if they want to go to the hotel, or if they want to go upstairs if we are already in the hotel bar. Two out of three or more say yes on first meet, and the others I score on a follow up mission. I've never had one I wanted who wouldn't go to the FC at least on second meet. Once there, I just proceed to escalate like I was on a date and I assume they will comply with what I want. But at this point, it's not an act, I've done enough of them to know that if they go to FC, they will fuck. I never bring up cash and I've never had one who brought it up after going to FC. Afterwards, I slip cash in their purse or pocket.
This way allows the girls to tell themselves they are not hookers. Sometimes, it allows you to nail a semi-pro who is out of your price range, but who thinks she will get more by not negotiating and waiting to see what you you give voluntarily. Almost all of the girls I have been with have been fine with the donation and didn't speak of it. I have had three that were not happy with the donation, but at that point it was too late for them to negotiate and I had at least fucked them once.
I am laying this out because I think my approach is different from most guys on here. I think most guys do discuss price online, and don't meet with the girls who are too expensive. That way probably saves a lot of time if you just want to get your dick wet with an attractive girl. I like my approach because I believe that, while it may take more work, it results in more hook-ups with non-pros, or at least girls who are less pro, which are my preference.
JakeDSnake
03-23-19, 12:16
https://www.seeking.com/member/741744b9-08fd-3f5a-d719-e2d1592c9b92
Been in contact with her for a year. M&G 3 weeks ago at the hotel cocktail bar then settled for 300 for four hours. Went up the room and she stayed overnight instead.
FarFarAway
03-23-19, 14:59
Here's my technique: I don't ask and I don't get to a price. Ever. It is amazing how many girls will go the the FC with you (or at least will go the FC with me!) without any discussion of price. For me, this is a way to weed out the real pro's because I prefer a less professional vibe. I don't think any true professional is going to do you without a clear agreement on price. I know I miss out on some good looking semi-pros this way, but it also helps me focus on the real non-pros. It takes more time than just throwing out numbers online, but I believe it yields better results.I cut down on your post, but agree overall. This works better for some than others, younger / better looking / more game. I'm 60 and decent in the other areas. I still think it is a mistake to negotiate online, you're getting her 'escort' price. She's agreeing to FC someone she's never seen in person. I recently met a 25 YO skinny, hot / GND SB, works as a cart girl at a country club, we met 'out' a few times, the last time concluding w / a hot makeout session in my car. I was confident about her, gave her $ to get us a room. We met there w / no agreement on sugar, I gave her 250 cash + a 50 gift card. She's meeting me again, so I guess that's good enough.
https://www.seeking.com/member/741744b9-08fd-3f5a-d719-e2d1592c9b92
Been in contact with her for a year. M&G 3 weeks ago at the hotel cocktail bar then settled for 300 for four hours. Went up the room and she stayed overnight instead.Damn. Could I venmo you 20 $ for her contact? Haha.
JakeDSnake
03-23-19, 18:18
Where could I read about tips on sugardaddying? Are there any forums that are made for newbies?General Tips.
- always keep in mind, you win some then lose some.
- build a rapport, it can be corny to some trying to get to know someone but it helps ease up the communication which will hopefully lead to a meet up.
- avoid all "model want to be (s)" as they are mostly gps.
- be leery of seeing "Bb" "baby" "girl" as they tend to be nuts, demanding, and gps.
- all SB with selfies, mostly selfies, modified selfies tend to be gps
- if a SB seemed pushy, hasty and seemed in a rush to M&G, expect a high price demand=gps.
- it takes time to develop rapport, patience is key in trying to feel how things will go. It may take months...a year....
- if you have been patient but your gut feel is its not going to work out or that things could be costly, move on to the next one.
- have an exit plan if the meet is not going well or if the meet is going to be unreasonably costly and expensive.
- lastly, build a rapport and remember, you win some and lose some.
Cheers!
PussyPumper
03-24-19, 03:29
https://www.seeking.com/member/4f781afb-9403-4116-96d4-bf38fb6456fb
Asian girl cool with ppm. Anybody seen her or have any info?Is she just visiting? Very pro look, but strangely also says "platonic". She joined 2 years ago. I think I would have noticed her if she was local.
Here's my technique: I don't ask and I don't get to a price. Ever. It is amazing how many girls will go the the FC with you (or at least will go the FC with me!) without any discussion of price. For me, this is a way to weed out the real pro's because I prefer a less professional vibe. I don't think any true professional is going to do you without a clear agreement on price. I know I miss out on some good looking semi-pros this way, but it also helps me focus on the real non-pros. It takes more time than just throwing out numbers online, but I believe it yields better results.
Most of the time, I just ask to meet me for a coffee or a drink. If they insist talking on numbers before meeting, I don't meet them. Sometimes I play along with talking numbers online for "market research," but I never meet any of those girls. At the meet & greet, I size them up and decide whether to pursue. Almost always I do pursue because they are usually quite good looking. I've only had a few bring up cash at M&G. One of them said she wanted to text about it afterwards. She accepted my offer and went straight to FC second meet. The others all asked about cash at M&G, accepted the offer and went to FC first meet. Assuming they don't bring up cash, at some point in the M&G, I ask them if they want to purse an arrangement right away, or ask if they want to go to the hotel, or if they want to go upstairs if we are already in the hotel bar. Two out of three or more say yes on first meet, and the others I score on a follow up mission. I've never had one I wanted who wouldn't go to the FC at least on second meet. Once there, I just proceed to escalate like I was on a date and I assume they will comply with what I want. But at this point, it's not an act, I've done enough of them to know that if they go to FC, they will fuck. I never bring up cash and I've never had one who brought it up after going to FC. Afterwards, I slip cash in their purse or pocket.
This way allows the girls to tell themselves they are not hookers. Sometimes, it allows you to nail a semi-pro who is out of your price range, but who thinks she will get more by not negotiating and waiting to see what you you give voluntarily. Almost all of the girls I have been with have been fine with the donation and didn't speak of it. I have had three that were not happy with the donation, but at that point it was too late for them to negotiate and I had at least fucked them once.
I am laying this out because I think my approach is different from most guys on here. I think most guys do discuss price online, and don't meet with the girls who are too expensive. That way probably saves a lot of time if you just want to get your dick wet with an attractive girl. I like my approach because I believe that, while it may take more work, it results in more hook-ups with non-pros, or at least girls who are less pro, which are my preference.Really appreciate the write up! I think my fear is the 3 that were not happy with the donation. I might just need to get over it. Cheers!
Really appreciate the write up! I think my fear is the 3 that were not happy with the donation. I might just need to get over it. Cheers!What are you worried about? These girls don't travel with muscle. I wrote up the three who weren't happy with the donation on another forum, but here is the Cliff note version:
1. SB was completely gone and only bitched via text. At that point it's completely too late. What am I going to do, unfuck her? She was actually sweet in the texts, said she really enjoyed being with me, but couldn't repeat without a substantial increase. We parted amicably via text.
2. SB said "we agreed" to more money via text. We hadn't, and she wasn't really very bothered. Took off without me having to push her out the door, think she would have been willing to meet again for the same donation but she moved out of area.
3. SB had left the room without looking in envelope. Came back knocking on door. If you are really worried, you just don't open the door in that situation. I did open door, we talked, she had kind of a sandy vagina about it but didn't hit me or scream or anything and took off.
These three are the outliers. LOTS of others accepted the same donation amount, didn't complain and were willing to repeat.
This 1 reached out to me and said she does PPM and it's 800 each. I told her politely that it's too high for ppm, then she went "Well, when I tell you, it means that's what I receive. There're guys who spend that amount. " Then blocked me. Got an attitude .
TwoBlueBalls
03-25-19, 18:20
This 1 reached out to me and said she does PPM and it's 800 each. I told her politely that it's too high for ppm, then she went "Well, when I tell you, it means that's what I receive. There're guys who spend that amount. " Then blocked me. Got an attitude .Sounds like she just saved you some time and money! Thanks for sharing!
PussyPumper
03-28-19, 05:25
This 1 reached out to me and said she does PPM and it's 800 each. I told her politely that it's too high for ppm, then she went "Well, when I tell you, it means that's what I receive. There're guys who spend that amount. " Then blocked me. Got an attitude .Probably two things going on.
- LA listing. I get the feeling that LA may be x2 times San Diego in terms of expected donation? San Diego is a college town in ways. Lots of competition to find a "daddy". There really are 4 SB listings for every SD in this area.
- Pro / semi-pro vibe?
NiceAndFun
03-29-19, 19:15
Probably two things going on.
- LA listing. I get the feeling that LA may be x2 times San Diego in terms of expected donation? San Diego is a college town in ways. Lots of competition to find a "daddy". There really are 4 SB listings for every SD in this area.
- Pro / semi-pro vibe?Careful. One SB was offended by my offer. Next thing you know, I get perm banned from the site for "soliciting prostitution. ".
FarFarAway
04-02-19, 12:44
Careful. One SB was offended by my offer. Next thing you know, I get perm banned from the site for "soliciting prostitution. ".For newbies, it is really important to spend a lot of time reading these threads, not just for SD, but there is a national thread based on Richmond VA. An archive is kept there of all the most important how-tos. In particular, if you are messaging on the site about specific $ amounts, you are at risk. Just take it off the site, to text or email. If you can't get a girl to message you off the site, you aren't going to FC her anyway.
If you can't get a girl to message you off the site, you aren't going to FC her anyway.I thought I knew all the acronyms, but FC has me stumped.
OcasianBoy
04-03-19, 22:59
I thought I knew all the acronyms, but FC has me stumped.FC is fuk chamber.
PussyPumper
04-09-19, 16:21
.... In particular, if you are messaging on the site about specific $ amounts, you are at risk. Just take it off the site, to text or email. Agree 100% Never, ever discuss financial details on SA!
PussyPumper
04-09-19, 16:28
https://www.seeking.com/member/741744b9-08fd-3f5a-d719-e2d1592c9b92
Been in contact with her for a year.Wow, you have way more patience than I ever have. But serrously, two things:
- With all the talent out there, is any one woman worth being wooed for an entire year, when you could have hooked 10+ other babes during the same time?
- In my experience, SA is a fast game. If they don't want to see you, I think it becomes apparent in a few days at most.
- PP.
PussyPumper
04-09-19, 16:32
I can also vouch for vanilla gift cards working for SA. I did assign a zip and no problem. Nice tip!I looked into Vanilla.
- Says that card has to be "registered" before it can be used.
- To register, seems to imply that SS number is needed. Is that so? That would be a deal breaker for me!
Nope! You go to the website, type in the CC#, expiration, and 3 digit thingy to log in, and then set a zip code. Then, you can use it for SA. No SS necessary or other identifying information my friend. Pay cash when you buy it and I don't really imagine it is traceable (well, within reason).
Cheers,
Cruzier.
I looked into Vanilla.
- Says that card has to be "registered" before it can be used.
- To register, seems to imply that SS number is needed. Is that so? That would be a deal breaker for me!
City Slicker
04-10-19, 12:09
https://www.seeking.com/member/741744b9-08fd-3f5a-d719-e2d1592c9b92
Been in contact with her for a year. M&G 3 weeks ago at the hotel cocktail bar then settled for 300 for four hours. Went up the room and she stayed overnight instead.I've just message her. I will be in Seattle for training next month so hopefully I can set something up.
Nice pic!
NiceAndFun
04-10-19, 18:48
For newbies, it is really important to spend a lot of time reading these threads, not just for SD, but there is a national thread based on Richmond VA. An archive is kept there of all the most important how-tos. In particular, if you are messaging on the site about specific $ amounts, you are at risk. Just take it off the site, to text or email. If you can't get a girl to message you off the site, you aren't going to FC her anyway.Possible to make a new account? Or will they flag it and delete right away?
Does anyone have any experience with this girl?
https://www.seeking.com/member/f559218c-7aa3-4a57-b96c-636dc033aea5Molly is thicker in person, she has a kind of watery flappy weight to her thighs and stomach. Got her to give me a quick visit for $160, cute face, nice tits, smelly vag, no BJ.
William Monroe
04-11-19, 19:12
https://www.seeking.com/member/09e6ca91-e9a2-40b0-bb5b-fd2071d966d3
Asked for $500 for covered full service. I just said we are too far apart. She texted me a couple nice photos though.
This 22 yro white girl wants 1 k for a shag. She won't even send any other pics than the one posted on her profile showing her from the neck down in a baggy blouse. Plus, her about me section is empty.
Goddess421.
"My body is a temple. Be prepared for that when you come to me with an offering. ".
PussyPumper
04-13-19, 11:58
This 22 yro white girl wants 1 k for a shag. She won't even send any other pics than the one posted on her profile showing her from the neck down in a baggy blouse. Plus, her about me section is empty.
Goddess421.
"My body is a temple. Be prepared for that when you come to me with an offering. ".I blocked her profile the minute I read the "my body is a temple"!
But you could play her along. Safely off of SA of course. Tell her she is a slutty *****, selling herself for a mere 1 k, for a grubby hookup, and that you only talk to high-class real sugarbabies.
Of course, "her" entire profile may also be a joke.....
https://www.seeking.com/member/09e6ca91-e9a2-40b0-bb5b-fd2071d966d3
Asked for $500 for covered full service. I just said we are too far apart. She texted me a couple nice photos though.Even when they appear to have GPS, I still give a counter offer. Recently one said she wanted 2000 a month, I said I might consider it if that includes 10 meetings a month. Then she said how about 500 a week, I said ok as long as we get together 3 times a week. Then we got down to ppm discussion, she said she'd do 500 ppm. I countered with 200, she immediately responded with 300. I held firm at 200, then she agreed to do 250. After all that I still refused because she said she wanted it up front which was a non starter for me. She claimed she'd been ripped off before.
https://www.seeking.com/member/eab0a261-5070-4abb-8c62-02ef22c53c7f
As for your POT sb, when she says "500 for covered full service" sounds like a pro to me. I'm sure you could have worked her down to 200-250. Or even 300 max and that would be pushing it.
Taylor Taste
04-13-19, 21:05
Even when they appear to have GPS, I still give a counter offer. Recently one said she wanted 2000 a month, I said I might consider it if that includes 10 meetings a month. Then she said how about 500 a week, I said ok as long as we get together 3 times a week. Then we got down to ppm discussion, she said she'd do 500 ppm. I countered with 200, she immediately responded with 300. I held firm at 200, then she agreed to do 250. After all that I still refused because she said she wanted it up front which was a non starter for me. She claimed she'd been ripped off before.
https://www.seeking.com/member/eab0a261-5070-4abb-8c62-02ef22c53c7f
As for your POT sb, when she says "500 for covered full service" sounds like a pro to me. I'm sure you could have worked her down to 200-250. Or even 300 max and that would be pushing it.Ppm and description sounds like pro?
Ppm and description sounds like pro?I like pros, and have a couple I have become friends with over the years. As for the sugar bowl. Pro, semi-pro, part time time pro, professional sb, high volume sb, non monogamous sb or "true" sb? As you get to know them you get a sense of which category they fall into.
JakeDSnake
04-14-19, 11:44
Wow, you have way more patience than I ever have. But serrously, two things:
- With all the talent out there, is any one woman worth being wooed for an entire year, when you could have hooked 10+ other babes during the same time?
- In my experience, SA is a fast game. If they don't want to see you, I think it becomes apparent in a few days at most.
- PP.I agree that there's a lot more out there but I met her then for the first time and only once. I just keep my contacts just because I don't maintain my SA membership monthly but still meet someone different every month. But I am not discounting on wanting to see the same SB again.
And yet another professional meet and greeter? Or are you guys really that desperate to pay for this nonsense? Been messaging with this one, she says the right things and we set up a m&g. Now she says it will be 150 for her time and then we can go from there. My response--how about we just meet and go from there. The only girls that want money for their time are hookers.
https://www.seeking.com/member/4330f705-c7dc-4360-8d9e-28a2c98eaf7b
I saw her listing the day it went up and figured she'd get millions of messages so I didn't even try. Interestingly her profile shows that I favorited her 3 weeks ago but she doesn't show in my favorites list AND the red heart icon is missing. I wonder if that is what a profile looks like when they hide you? If I was blocked it would say so I think (I've seen other who have blocked me).
And yet another professional meet and greeter? Or are you guys really that desperate to pay for this nonsense? Been messaging with this one, she says the right things and we set up a m&g. Now she says it will be 150 for her time and then we can go from there. My response--how about we just meet and go from there. The only girls that want money for their time are hookers.
https://www.seeking.com/member/4330f705-c7dc-4360-8d9e-28a2c98eaf7b
This one hit me up initially. Chit chatted for a bit then tried to sell me a picture. Immediately blocked me when I told her no thanks.
TwoBlueBalls
04-19-19, 01:41
There's a special on A&E titled, Sex for Sale: The Untold Story. Watching now and they're talking about Seeking Arrangements. Interesting!
TravelinSD
04-19-19, 12:00
I'm visiting San Diego next week so was looking for some company while I'm in town. I thought I'd hit the jackpot with this one:
https://www.seeking.com/member/b3e3ba8e-64f5-4215-9aa2-436bfa552bcf
Replied to my message, good communication and moved to text. Set up a day for next week and then "allowance" came up. I told her I usually gift $300. She said she usually gets $1 k. That ended things quickly, LOL.
Good Hunting.
Travelin.
William Monroe
04-19-19, 12:46
I'm visiting San Diego next week so was looking for some company while I'm in town. I thought I'd hit the jackpot with this one:
https://www.seeking.com/member/b3e3ba8e-64f5-4215-9aa2-436bfa552bcf
Replied to my message, good communication and moved to text. Set up a day for next week and then "allowance" came up. I told her I usually gift $300. She said she usually gets $1 k. That ended things quickly, LOL.
Good Hunting.
Travelin.A bit of a tip off I figure when they say they are looking for an "alpha male".
FarFarAway
04-20-19, 09:25
A bit of a tip off I figure when they say they are looking for an "alpha male".I disagree. I didn't look at her particular profile, but a type of girl you want to target is the ones who want to be dominated by a powerful older man. They are on SA for the access to that sort of experience, not only for the $. Those are the ones you can get for reasonable $. There are lotsa tells for girls like that, if you read the LA sugar thread, the mod there, Hollywood Guy, has given some of the things he looks for.
I looked into Vanilla.
- Says that card has to be "registered" before it can be used.
- To register, seems to imply that SS number is needed. Is that so? That would be a deal breaker for me!Like I said in Thread #: 928 - You had a "reloadable" card.
To make a Reloadable card work, it's like opening a bank account (well, 95%), which requires the SSN. When you see the word "reloadable" - Avoid!
William Monroe
04-21-19, 08:40
I disagree. I didn't look at her particular profile, but a type of girl you want to target is the ones who want to be dominated by a powerful older man. They are on SA for the access to that sort of experience, not only for the $. Those are the ones you can get for reasonable $. There are lotsa tells for girls like that, if you read the LA sugar thread, the mod there, Hollywood Guy, has given some of the things he looks for.Well I am not looking to dominate any woman. I do, however understand how many women have an attraction to older men. This is often due to losing their father at a young age often due to divorce. I look for as well for telltale signs of a woman who needs approval. They can have low self esteem from bad relationships in the past. So to these points I agree with you.
My red flag is simply the term alpha male because women who would be attracted to that, who would use that tem, I think are looking for a very wealthy man, And they are almost certainly not my type.
JakeDSnake
04-21-19, 11:21
I disagree. I didn't look at her particular profile, but a type of girl you want to target is the ones who want to be dominated by a powerful older man. They are on SA for the access to that sort of experience, not only for the $. Those are the ones you can get for reasonable $. There are lotsa tells for girls like that, if you read the LA sugar thread, the mod there, Hollywood Guy, has given some of the things he looks for.There are SBs that really wants to be submissive and be dominated. It a chosen lifestyle. I've met a couple in Orange County and one in SD, some do it for a reasonable $ while some don't even ask for it. I am currently on a steady meet with someone, a blond SB from LA who just wants to be dominated.
FarFarAway
04-21-19, 14:16
Well I am not looking to dominate any woman. I do, however understand how many women have an attraction to older men. This is often due to losing their father at a young age often due to divorce. I look for as well for telltale signs of a woman who needs approval. They can have low self esteem from bad relationships in the past. So to these points I agree with you.
My red flag is simply the term alpha male because women who would be attracted to that, who would use that tem, I think are looking for a very wealthy man, And they are almost certainly not my type.Please, please, stay far far away () from girls who put 'alpha male' in their profiles! Leaves more for me. I don't give big bucks sugar, I have a regular 25 YO SB who is about 200 + some spoiling, b / c she likes being 'controlled' - they say it many different ways, as I said. Look at Hollywood Guy's postings for the tells. I am way more than 2 x her age.
I'm wondering what "dominated" concretely means to the female. Is that in the bedroom, out of the bedroom or what? Sounds fun but I have no where to even start with that.
Cheers,
Cruzier.
Please, please, stay far far away () from girls who put 'alpha male' in their profiles! Leaves more for me. I don't give big bucks sugar, I have a regular 25 YO SB who is about 200 + some spoiling, b / c she likes being 'controlled' - they say it many different ways, as I said. Look at Hollywood Guy's postings for the tells. I am way more than 2 x her age.
There are SBs that really wants to be submissive and be dominated. It a chosen lifestyle. I've met a couple in Orange County and one in SD, some do it for a reasonable $ while some don't even ask for it. I am currently on a steady meet with someone, a blond SB from LA who just wants to be dominated.
I'm wondering what "dominated" concretely means to the female. Is that in the bedroom, out of the bedroom or what? Sounds fun but I have no where to even start with that.
Cheers,
Cruzier.I seem to run into a lot of young ladies with serious daddy issues. Usually, it's because they either had a poor or absolutely no father figure in their life. They seem to welcome something as easy as, just a guy that knows what he wants. A guy that can make decisions. A guy that respectfully takes control. A guy with confidence. That said, I have also run into those that love being tied up and being taken complete advantage of. I am pretty good at all of that. So, your answer is somewhere in the middle of all of that.
I have several times had ladies allow me to tie them up that would never trust any guy with that power. One, an SP who is a dominatrix, loves it when I tie her up and abuse her. She says, and I'm quite sure, that I'm the only guy she gives that power to. I can tell that story on several others.
Almost all ladies enjoy being treated with respect by a confident guy. When they are SPs, ladies who fuck lots of guys with their own issues, and SBs, who’s moral compass is possibly a bit confused, it can be rewarding.
Just one man's opinion.
C3.
I see that Rachel has returned. Had a M&G a few years ago, she seemed nice but I wasn't really feeling it. She lists herself as "average" build, I would put it at "curvy + " so I wasn't really interested in a follow up date. A few days later she hits me up and wants to get together. I didn't have anything else going on so decided to play along. So she wants to meet the following day, but her rent is due "today" and wants me to advance her 300. We ahd not had discussions yet concerning allowance. I let her know any allowances are provided after the completion of a date that includes full private adult activities. She complains that guys routinely provide sugar in advance, and that if intimacy is involved it's even more. I said, then you should have no trouble coming up with 300 today since there's all these guys out there giving out sugar with nothing in return from her. Check out and see if she's gotten more realistic.
https://www.seeking.com/member/6705f68b-adad-431d-82ec-5c149f6aaed9
PussyPumper
04-23-19, 15:07
In 2+ years, I never had so much as a meet and greet with a duo (two women) from SA.
As far as I can see, duo profiles seem to be either.
- entirely platonic, or.
- wanting an unreasonably high donation (per person), from which they won't budge.
Anyone had better luck?
DanteHaversham
04-23-19, 16:13
In 2+ years, I never had so much as a meet and greet with a duo (two women) from SA.
As far as I can see, duo profiles seem to be either.
- entirely platonic, or.
- wanting an unreasonably high donation (per person), from which they won't budge.
Anyone had better luck?Yes. Identical twins.
Zoo Guy1959
04-23-19, 16:35
Yes. Identical twins.And, almost certainly, they are the twins with their own category below; just scroll down. They are also at HX.
PussyPumper
04-23-19, 17:30
And, almost certainly, they are the twins with their own category below; just scroll down. They are also at HX.Unfortunately, those twins don't look like the type of college SB I like to go for.
DanteHaversham
04-23-19, 18:53
And, almost certainly, they are the twins with their own category below; just scroll down. They are also at HX.Different pair of twins. They aren't active anymore and were just doing it to get tickets to Coachella.
JakeDSnake
04-24-19, 01:00
I'm wondering what "dominated" concretely means to the female. Is that in the bedroom, out of the bedroom or what? Sounds fun but I have no where to even start with that.
Cheers,
Cruzier.Enough said.
Anyone use this site?
Any success?
Advice on price per meet, rather than monthly allowance?
PussyPumper
05-02-19, 20:41
Anyone use this site?
Any success?
Advice on price per meet, rather than monthly allowance?Useless.
Worthless.
PussyPumper
05-02-19, 20:45
Anyone else notice the well known young black / mixed pornstar now among us on SA since last month?
I could not get her to move from Pro type pricing.
300 for BBJ.
600 for GFE.
800 for GFE+ (balls).
All these numbers being per hour!
Note that I think she has had a baby since her actress career.
JakeDSnake
05-03-19, 00:40
Anyone use this site?
Any success?
Advice on price per meet, rather than monthly allowance?Not worth your time.
PussyPumper
05-04-19, 19:12
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This was from a book called Dataclysm, it wasn't from a survey, it was from "data" he cobbled together out of the public API's from various social media sites. There was no peer review, there was nothing approaching any sort of science involved in the collection of this data. The chart was from a coffee table book.
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PussyPumper
05-06-19, 03:56
Can't provide link as I blocked her, but Mya1995 is not who she portrays herself as.
Via text she provided a link up front to a Pronhub movie, which she says is her, where the actress is misidentified as Maya Bijou.
She does not directly say that she is Maya Bijou, but the set up is such as to make you think that, and she does resemble her - but ethnicity, age and height are all wrong!
Had been messaging her and she wanted to meet. While negotiating allowance, she tells me she knows what she is worth and that's never a good sign. She wanted 500, I offered my usual and she countered with 400. I said I could go 200 since she expects an UBER both ways. Definitely not an escort, even worse. GPS-cort.
https://www.seeking.com/member/36ebf7a3-eb03-422a-8758-18fe784b5178
TwoBlueBalls
05-06-19, 21:37
Her ad in your link is too phunny! I assisted you with letting her know what she's really worth. Used my burner and texted her for some pussy pie! She was insulted until I offered her $500, then told her that was a typo, I meant $50! Only pastry she's baking is a yeast infection! Ai yaaa!
Had been messaging her and she wanted to meet. While negotiating allowance, she tells me she knows what she is worth and that's never a good sign. She wanted 500, I offered my usual and she countered with 400. I said I could go 200 since she expects an UBER both ways. Definitely not an escort, even worse. GPS-cort.
https://www.seeking.com/member/36ebf7a3-eb03-422a-8758-18fe784b5178
Chatted with this one for a bit. She wants $3 k per month. She's cute but not $3 k / mo cute!
https://www.seeking.com/member/d5a451db-aa86-4052-9cfe-297e33c435a5
This one isn't a pro? Well. 500 ppm with dinner drinks and some hotel fun. She's from PQ area so Uber-ing her to me was easy. .
https://www.seeking.com/member/12c4a02b-d49c-4504-b828-589fe02998da
This one isn't a pro? Well. 500 ppm with dinner drinks and some hotel fun. She's from PQ area so Uber-ing her to me was easy. .
https://www.seeking.com/member/12c4a02b-d49c-4504-b828-589fe02998daI had talked her down to $200 ppm without the dinner and drinks. Our schedules just never lined up.
TwoBlueBalls
05-12-19, 13:00
When they take money for a service, they're now a professional. Can you provide details on the hotel action? And to the member that claimed paying $200, how was your experience? Thanks for sharing!
This one isn't a pro? Well. 500 ppm with dinner drinks and some hotel fun. She's from PQ area so Uber-ing her to me was easy. .
https://www.seeking.com/member/12c4a02b-d49c-4504-b828-589fe02998da
When they take money for a service, they're now a professional. Can you provide details on the hotel action? And to the member that claimed paying $200, how was your experience? Thanks for sharing!200? Maybe. I know she went down to 400 on our first time but I have 5 anyway. I'm fortunate to say that 100 doesn't make a difference to me. Anything is possible. I'm a long term monger but only been on the SB scene the last 2 years. Definitely cheaper option since I like flying them to places.
Chatted with this one for a bit. She wants $3 k per month. She's cute but not $3 k / mo cute!
https://www.seeking.com/member/d5a451db-aa86-4052-9cfe-297e33c435a5I tell them I might consider it if they will meet up 15 x a month.
Had been messaging with this young one. Finally comes out and says no sex. I know, I know, she lists platonic in her profile, but I have found even if listed, that it's not necessarily the case so I never let that stop me. She gives me some crap that there's all kinds of guys out there willing to pay to watch her be a complete waste of oxygen.
Please don't pay these fakers to sit and stuff their pie holes. I have a minimum 2 year waiting list of girls who want me to wine, dine and give them allowance just for allowing me the honor of their presence. Start messaging, educate them about what a real sugar relationship is. No hunny. No munny.
https://www.seeking.com/member/eaddfa9f-464d-45ca-a627-64705e3be965
PussyPumper
05-15-19, 02:56
A bunch of you PMed me about Lexi, after I posted about her a while back.
Just wondering, did anyone actually end up meeting her?
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