Sugar Babies and Arrangements 2. 0

[Gatorbit]

I can 100% verify what Serra is saying. She is the ultimate date and if you treat her right, with respect and like the beautiful lady she is, she will reciprocate. Obviously it takes time to get comfortable with each other and build the trust but she is worth every penny she earns. Can't wait to see you again Serra!!


Hi all,

I'll chime in on this topic if I may with some of my perspectives.

First of, let's just assume the POT is a good one, she's hot, no games, and is legit. The allowance you give her is covering more than just the time you spend together. Let me use myself as an example.

If I take you up on a date, there's a lot that goes into that. I like to communicate a good bit, get to know each other a bit through text. Then, come date time, I'm getting ready way early. I have my entire "chick" routine (showing, shaving everything, skin care, hair, nails, right outfit, makeup, etc) to do, which takes time. Then getting to where I'm meeting my date. Then there is the time to break the ice and get comfortable, flirt, enjoy the moment. If all goes well, then of course private time together and getting home afterwards.

I always viewed it as the allowance given covers all that time, not just the few hours we may share in private. So, in my humble opinion, a woman asking for somewhere in the 300-500 range isn't too crazy of an ask. If you want a woman to make effort for you, it has to be reciprocal. Of course, there are many women on there that don't make that effort, as there are many guys that expect 3 hours of private time with the ideal girl next door for less cost per hour than a STG girl that just rolled off of her crack pipe.

If you give a girl 500, then have some time to get to know her, and then get a couple hours of private time with her, that's actually a pretty good rate per hour in your favor. Cheaper than the aforementioned "meh" girl with a monkey and a way better experience overall.

I don't want to come off as a b*tch. But if you want quality, you have to expect to pay a bit more. Yes, the kick is that you don't know if your investment will pay off until the deed is done, but that's the game. You guys do your homework here, so at least you got that. Maybe the good girls like that are rare.

That's how I approached things when I sugared. Asking for a higher allowance the first date is also one way to weed out the flakey guys. After that, I could work with him on allowance.

Moral of the story. Patience and a good attitude will get you far. Sorry. I think I'm rambling. It's 4 am and I just got done dancing. Bed time for me. Take care everyone.

Serra.

[EyeGetsPussy]

Mr DarkSkin,

Thanks you for responding to my request for information. I saw Kiwi today and you were spot on. I had a very nice time with her. She was very accommodating and followed directions. She was a bit quiet in bed as you alluded to but nonetheless she satisfied my needs. I absolutely liked her body as well and I think I'll be meeting with her again. I am going to see Ashley tomorrow and if you can find out additional details on Jonquille and share here I would appreciate it. Jonquille via text seems to be fun as well. Again thank you for responding to my request.


The young lady in the third pic is Kiwi, she's out of Suffolk and has 2 kids. She will do anything you want for $160. She's the type that does't make much noise in the bed room. Nice girl, I think she's an escort as well. Jonqulle I haven't met, but I know someone that has, he states he had a good time although this was years ago.

[EyeGetsPussy]

Wow Mr DarkSkin, you received an extremely generous break allowance wise with Pink. She is definitely great in bed and I am making plans to see her again soon. I wish I could get lucky enough to see her for 200. But I'm definitely content with the 300 allowance considering how accommodating she was during our first meeting.


I was lucky enough to see Daria aka pinkbandit for $200 last June. I had a good time everthing GFE type. As you stated she changes up the amount everytime so I've ony seen her once. She's good in bed, but I htink she might be bipololar. She might be a hothead. For a small girl she can take some Dick. LOL.

[BookerTNelson]

I'm curious, how do you view it? Yes, YMMV is very true.

And yes, you always have the basic supply vs. Demand. In this area, there are way more women than guys on SA. Having been on both sides of the fence (yes, I have met male SDs and female SBs on SA), I would dare say the supply / demand dynamic is altered when you factor in all the fakery going on via SA. Believe me when I say there are more legit females on SA than there are males.

Serra.Well, you only take into account the exchange of service for money and all the expenses that come into account for the final service that he receives. So to me, that puts me into a mind frame of a purchase. So to me that aligns more with UTR / Provider.

Also, of course there are far more women than men on there. You just made my point. It's a buyers market.

[Blackmamba757]

I say it depends. If you are someone they would do in real life. I think money starts not being the main motivator. I've had a few SBs over the years.

It might start off on a per session basis, but then it always turns into something else.

I wouldn't say I date off of there, but I've gotten into some short term / middle term relationships with a few of them.

Most of them aren't like STG professionals. They might be students, work a crappy job etc. But they are cute.

I had one girl I would see 2 -3 times a week. I paid half her rent so it broke down to about 100 - 125 per visit. But we lasted a year.

I had one I paid her car payment. And saw her 2 times a week. That was like 80 bucks a visit.

We'd spend a few hours together, order out, movie, if my girl was out of town a sleep over.

They are people too and they might have a boyfriend, but there are a lot of single ones out there. I tend to avoid the professionals and have dated some very pretty girls from there for 1 k or less a month.

when I was a little younger, I always had to have 4 - 5 girls around... now that I'm a little older (mid 30's)... I just want a comfortable girl that's cute, and plays her side chick role... and picks up the slack from my main girlfriend. My main girl only likes/wants it 1 - 2 times a week. Our drives don't align.

[SerraAngel]

Well, you only take into account the exchange of service for money and all the expenses that come into account for the final service that he receives. So to me, that puts me into a mind frame of a purchase. So to me that aligns more with UTR / Provider. Respectfully, what else is there to take into account? I'm saying that everything, from the initial chat to meeting in the FC is something to take into account. Time is money, on both sides of the people involved. It makes no matter if the woman is a good girl sugar baby, UTR, or pro. The level of service given typically equates to a higher donation / allowance. If you want a quick nut, you can get that cheap. If you want something more in depth, you should expect a higher donation. I'm merely pointing out the coralary there.

I see what you mean by breaking it down to a money / final service equation. But that is the truth. If anything, don't you guys do that with reviews? Nothing against the reviews, but everyone states whether they would repeat with respect to the overall service (communication, flirtation, FC) versus the allowance given. Is that not taking into account the service he receives?


Also, of course there are far more women than men on there. You just made my point. It's a buyers market.Yes, it is a buyers market, to put it bluntly. However, I would say this market is a little different. The buyers aren't necessarily the men (even though they are giving money). Again, let me say I'm not disparaging anyone's choices. It is only a buyer's market on the male side if you are not particularly picky about said experience. Yes, you can get a variety of girls for a low amount, mostly newbies, some pros. Like I said, you get the same experience as a girl on STG (they are still online right? There are exceptions of course. From my perspective, I can honestly say the around 90% of the guys I met off SA were complete A Holes. I had one guy choke me during a meet and greet, thinking that would turn me on. No, it didn't and I promptly left. That is only one of the many bad stories I could tell. So yeah, there are more guys on there, but also more guys that are like that. Thus why I try to get to know a guy prior.

I mean no offense, not trying to argue. Just trying to put a woman's perspective on things. Sorry if anything I've said can't of the wrong way.

[SerraAngel]

I say it depends. If you are someone they would do in real life. I think money starts not being the main motivator. I've had a few SBs over the years.

It might start off on a per session basis, but then it always turns into something else.

I wouldn't say I date off of there, but I've gotten into some short term / middle term relationships with a few of them.

Most of them aren't like STG professionals. They might be students, work a crappy job etc. But they are cute.

I had one girl I would see 2 -3 times a week. I paid half her rent so it broke down to about 100 - 125 per visit. But we lasted a year.

I had one I paid her car payment. And saw her 2 times a week. That was like 80 bucks a visit.

We'd spend a few hours together, order out, movie, if my girl was out of town a sleep over.

They are people too and they might have a boyfriend, but there are a lot of single ones out there. I tend to avoid the professionals and have dated some very pretty girls from there for 1 k or less a month.

when I was a little younger, I always had to have 4 - 5 girls around... now that I'm a little older (mid 30's)... I just want a comfortable girl that's cute, and plays her side chick role... and picks up the slack from my main girlfriend. My main girl only likes/wants it 1 - 2 times a week. Our drives don't align.You have very good points. The things you did show a commitment (even though it may not cost you much) and a commitment to helping said girl. Those things can go a long ways. Doing stuff like that relaxes a woman, makes her feel more secure, and gives her room to breathe, so to speak. Yes, doing those things requires trust between both people. But sincere acts like that can go a long ways.

My word of advice, communication is key. Of course, not every girl would be able to earn this level of trust, but for those that do, it's worth it in the long run.

[Scorpio22]

The young lady in the third pic is Kiwi, she's out of Suffolk and has 2 kids. She will do anything you want for $160. She's the type that does't make much noise in the bed room. Nice girl, I think she's an escort as well. Jonqulle I haven't met, but I know someone that has, he states he had a good time although this was years ago.


Mr DarkSkin,

Thanks you for responding to my request for information. I saw Kiwi today and you were spot on. I had a very nice time with her. She was very accommodating and followed directions. She was a bit quiet in bed as you alluded to but nonetheless she satisfied my needs. I absolutely liked her body as well and I think I'll be meeting with her again. I am going to see Ashley tomorrow and if you can find out additional details on Jonquille and share here I would appreciate it. Jonquille via text seems to be fun as well. Again thank you for responding to my request.I saw Jonquille about two years ago YMMV but when I saw her she came to me looking bummy and 2 minutes into the session started bleeding on me smh. I don't know if she legit didn't know her period was coming or she planned that to cut our session short but it was one of my worst SA experiences and a shame too cause she got into it and the fuck faces she was making turned me on till the blood. She has been reviewed by another monger just search snapchat which was the nickname I gave her cause of how much she was on the app back then. Kiwi I was interested in too but she has yet to even respond to my message, I guess cause she busy taking dick and I'm further down the line.

[Scorpio22]

I was lucky enough to see Daria aka pinkbandit for $200 last June. I had a good time everthing GFE type. As you stated she changes up the amount everytime so I've ony seen her once. She's good in bed, but I htink she might be bipololar. She might be a hothead. For a small girl she can take some Dick. LOL.Yeah I've been trying her off and on since 2018, would love to toss her around one time but she's been difficult every time. I'm surprised she hasn't blocked me but her GPS has kept her out my reach these past two years, sucks to hear people bagging her for 300 and under and she telling me wants wants 500 smh I don't understand why it's so hard when I try her, she claims she is better looking than everybody on SA don't get me wrong she is a cute petite latina but I hit plenty that were way better looking than her for under 200 LOL.

[BookerTNelson]

Respectfully, what else is there to take into account? I'm saying that everything, from the initial chat to meeting in the FC is something to take into account. Time is money, on both sides of the people involved. It makes no matter if the woman is a good girl sugar baby, UTR, or pro. The level of service given typically equates to a higher donation / allowance. If you want a quick nut, you can get that cheap. If you want something more in depth, you should expect a higher donation. I'm merely pointing out the coralary there.

I see what you mean by breaking it down to a money / final service equation. But that is the truth. If anything, don't you guys do that with reviews? Nothing against the reviews, but everyone states whether they would repeat with respect to the overall service (communication, flirtation, FC) versus the allowance given. Is that not taking into account the service he receives?
Right now we're essentially debating YMMV on both sides. I'm also coming from a POV of a somewhat uncommon participator. To put it simply, SB/SD is more about value exchanges and being able to provide value beyond the dollars in your pocket will make allowances not matter as much.


Yes, it is a buyers market, to put it bluntly. However, I would say this market is a little different. The buyers aren't necessarily the men (even though they are giving money). Again, let me say I'm not disparaging anyone's choices. It is only a buyer's market on the male side if you are not particularly picky about said experience. Yes, you can get a variety of girls for a low amount, mostly newbies, some pros. Like I said, you get the same experience as a girl on STG (they are still online right? There are exceptions of course. From my perspective, I can honestly say the around 90% of the guys I met off SA were complete A Holes. I had one guy choke me during a meet and greet, thinking that would turn me on. No, it didn't and I promptly left. That is only one of the many bad stories I could tell. So yeah, there are more guys on there, but also more guys that are like that. Thus why I try to get to know a guy prior.

I mean no offense, not trying to argue. Just trying to put a woman's perspective on things. Sorry if anything I've said can't of the wrong way. I already understand the perspective. How aren't the buyers men? You just told me how 90% are assholes, they abuse, etc. That is why the guys that can be consistent, don't put you at risk and fit a select criteria can be choosier. My dollar holds more value and brings allowances down. My long term SB has been a bargain for me because she knows from experience of trying to find a situation like ours would take her another 2-3 years to find.

[BookerTNelson]

I say it depends. If you are someone they would do in real life. I think money starts not being the main motivator. I've had a few SBs over the years.

It might start off on a per session basis, but then it always turns into something else.

I wouldn't say I date off of there, but I've gotten into some short term / middle term relationships with a few of them.

Most of them aren't like STG professionals. They might be students, work a crappy job etc. But they are cute.

I had one girl I would see 2 -3 times a week. I paid half her rent so it broke down to about 100 - 125 per visit. But we lasted a year.

I had one I paid her car payment. And saw her 2 times a week. That was like 80 bucks a visit.

We'd spend a few hours together, order out, movie, if my girl was out of town a sleep over.

They are people too and they might have a boyfriend, but there are a lot of single ones out there. I tend to avoid the professionals and have dated some very pretty girls from there for 1 k or less a month.

when I was a little younger, I always had to have 4 - 5 girls around... now that I'm a little older (mid 30's)... I just want a comfortable girl that's cute, and plays her side chick role... and picks up the slack from my main girlfriend. My main girl only likes/wants it 1 - 2 times a week. Our drives don't align.Amen. The first point you made is why I'll play in the bowl until my age wears thin but even then I'll be able to find a baby that is 10-15 years younger that scratches the itch at a discount.

[SerraAngel]

Booker,

I see your point of view and I never meant to imply anything negative towards it. Apologies if it came across that way. At the end of the day, as long as everyone is having safe and consensual fun, each getting something out of it, then that's a good thing.

Happy Father's Day to all of you dads out there. I'll be celebrating 100 k Pornhub views with my first blowbang. LOL, wish me luck.

Serra.

[Johnny 5]

Serra, the first time you and I met for a massage back in November, we had a short discussion about setting rates and what the market will bear. I referred to it in my review of you at the time, which you can look up (http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?9246-Massage-Parlor-Reports&p=4552338&viewfull=1#post4552338). This whole conversation seems to be a repeat of that.


Respectfully, what else is there to take into account? I'm saying that everything, from the initial chat to meeting in the FC is something to take into account. Time is money, on both sides of the people involved. It makes no matter if the woman is a good girl sugar baby, UTR, or pro. The level of service given typically equates to a higher donation / allowance. If you want a quick nut, you can get that cheap. If you want something more in depth, you should expect a higher donation. I'm merely pointing out the coralary there.As BookerT said, this relationship between time and money is more true in the escort / UTR / provider world (but not always, because of course there are high $ providers who provide terrible service and the other way around). In my experience, this time:money relationship does not exist in the sugar world. Maybe you think it does because that's the calculation you make and you have more of a background in other forms of sex work, but I don't see it with most potential SBs, and I've talked to a lot of women in the past month that I've been an SA member.


I see what you mean by breaking it down to a money / final service equation. But that is the truth. If anything, don't you guys do that with reviews? Nothing against the reviews, but everyone states whether they would repeat with respect to the overall service (communication, flirtation, FC) versus the allowance given. Is that not taking into account the service he receives?Reviews on here only scratch the surface. The ones you see are mostly going to be encounters that are more of a pay for service, or the ones who were a disappointment and a recommendation against seeing. Nobody is going to come here and talk about what an awesome date they had watching movies and then fucking afterwards, for example, especially if they don't want to get hit up for details. I mean, last weekend I had the best sexual experience I had in years with an extremely cute girl half my age, had great conversation, gave her $200 at the end, and I absolutely will not say who she is.


Yes, it is a buyers market, to put it bluntly. However, I would say this market is a little different. The buyers aren't necessarily the men (even though they are giving money). Again, let me say I'm not disparaging anyone's choices. It is only a buyer's market on the male side if you are not particularly picky about said experience.I agree with this to a point. The market is completely different because (again, in most cases) there are more boxes that need to be checked before an arrangement can actually happen. This old post on the Richmond SB thread was enlightening to me: http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?p=1690278#post1690278.

So yeah, if you're dealing with an escort or even a UTR who is willing to see you without much of any background info, the "buying" is entirely on the guy's side. In sugar world, the SB's side of "buying" is in having more chances to accept or reject the potential SD for whatever reason. The potential SBs also have more opportunity to reach out to guys they might be interested in, whereas escort advertising is mostly passive.

Of course, if you're looking for one specific person or a type, that might affect how much one is willing to spend. I don't really have a type though, so if a super hot girl appears to be out of my price range, I'm more than content to move on.


Yes, you can get a variety of girls for a low amount, mostly newbies, some pros. Like I said, you get the same experience as a girl on STG (they are still online right? There are exceptions of course.It depends on your definition of "low amount. " I don't think anybody is finding single-time $80 qvs on SA. Even if you saw a girl from STG on SA, they'll ask more of the guy they meet on SA just because they think the guy on SA has more money and is willing to pay more.

But the reason I'm on SA is because I do not want the same experience as finding a girl on STG (which is still around, yes). That is the point.


From my perspective, I can honestly say the around 90% of the guys I met off SA were complete A Holes. I had one guy choke me during a meet and greet, thinking that would turn me on. No, it didn't and I promptly left. That is only one of the many bad stories I could tell. So yeah, there are more guys on there, but also more guys that are like that. Thus why I try to get to know a guy prior.So many times in the past month (as in almost everybody I've talked to for more than a couple of days), girls have told me how much they appreciated being able to talk to a guy who wasn't looking to immediately go to a hotel room, wasn't on drugs, was able to carry on a normal conversation, and so on. I am not the most attractive person, or the richest, but I know I have this going for me, and I know it works.

But like BookerT said, and I agree, this is where the value exchange and supply and demand comes in. You can ask for $500 a visit all you want, and I would never try to negotiate you down from that because you have your reasons. If you can get what you're looking for, good for you. But I would bet your experience is not typical. I imagine the market for that is quite limited, similar to the market of guys who are willing to pay $250 for massages. You're great, and the actual value of you is also great, but the reality of it is that I might see you one time every 3-6 months at $500, but I would just pass entirely because that's not even what I would want in an SD / SB arrangement. I want something ongoing with a person I can get to know well.

I too have noticed that for most potential SBs who are in this, there is an offsetting value in having a decent, safe, comfortable, consistent guy who treats them well and can help them with some financial expenses that their job (or parents or whatever) doesn't cover, even if it's on the scale of hundreds instead of thousands of dollars a month.


I mean no offense, not trying to argue. Just trying to put a woman's perspective on things. Sorry if anything I've said can't of the wrong way.I actually like thinking about this kind of stuff, so I appreciate this discussion.

[SerraAngel]

Johnny 5,

You made a lot of good points and I agree with a lot of what you said. I especially agree with you on a girl preferring an ongoing thing for a lower allowance. That's what I did. I would take my time, get to know a guy. If we had a good date and we mutually enjoyed our time, then I would be comfortable settling on a lower allowance for future dates. It's more money in the long run with lower risk being as I already knew the guy. So yes, I totally agree with you on that.

I'm enjoying the conversation also. Sorry if I sound argumentative, I definitely don't want to sound like that. Thanks for your viewpoints and all the others these guys are posting.

Serra.

[EyeGetsPussy]

Scorpio22,

Thanks for sharing your experience (although one of your worst) and the information on Jonquille. It is a bit of a disappointment when females show up looking any kind of way. I am kind of a stickler for women to at least show up looking halfway decent as first impressions can often set the tone for the rest of the meeting. I would have freaked the fuck out to have gotten into a groove and a chick started bleeding. Yikes! I understand shit happens sometimes but I agree women should know when it's close to their time of the month before fucking. Kiwi was fun and I'm sure she will come around soon and you get the opportunity to see her.


I saw Jonquille about two years ago YMMV but when I saw her she came to me looking bummy and 2 minutes into the session started bleeding on me smh. I don't know if she legit didn't know her period was coming or she planned that to cut our session short but it was one of my worst SA experiences and a shame too cause she got into it and the fuck faces she was making turned me on till the blood. She has been reviewed by another monger just search snapchat which was the nickname I gave her cause of how much she was on the app back then. Kiwi I was interested in too but she has yet to even respond to my message, I guess cause she busy taking dick and I'm further down the line.

[BookerTNelson]

Booker,

I see your point of view and I never meant to imply anything negative towards it. Apologies if it came across that way. At the end of the day, as long as everyone is having safe and consensual fun, each getting something out of it, then that's a good thing.

Happy Father's Day to all of you dads out there. I'll be celebrating 100 k Pornhub views with my first blowbang. LOL, wish me luck.

Serra.I didn't take anything negative from it. I'm just giving an alternate opinion to yours. Good luck on your blowbang.

[HrCreeper]

I just checked out SA for the first time and am a bit lost. Are most of the profiles real girls or scams? Are most of the girls looking for a date first or just regular get togethers?

Any advice would be appreciated. Thanks in advance.

[BookerTNelson]

I just checked out SA for the first time and am a bit lost. Are most of the profiles real girls or scams? Are most of the girls looking for a date first or just regular get togethers?

Any advice would be appreciated. Thanks in advance.Browsing back in the Richmond forum can help give you an idea of how to approach SA. I look at it as an intro course because I don't really agree with most of it but find it valuable to read.

Other than that, just get out there. Most of the girls are as lost as you and always remember to never send money before meeting anybody.

[Johnny 5]

I just checked out SA for the first time and am a bit lost. Are most of the profiles real girls or scams? Are most of the girls looking for a date first or just regular get togethers?

Any advice would be appreciated. Thanks in advance.There are all kinds of girls on that site who are looking for all kinds of things. I've come across very few actual scammers, but there are a lot who are looking for online only or platonic. As always, don't give money without meeting in person, and you'll be fine.

It helps to actually have an idea of the type of person you're trying to find, so in that way it's not that much different from a regular dating site.

If you created a new account and are paying for a membership, for me the first two weeks were extremely busy, then activity (messages and profile views) dropped off a cliff. Take advantage of that time.

[EyeGetsPussy]

I had the distinct pleasure of spending some quality time with this SA newbie. Cyn has only been on SA for roughly 3 weeks. After contacting her, communication over the past 2 weeks leading up to the meeting was very cordial and I had a hunch we would have a good time because the vibe was there via text. She is definitely the young woman in her SA pics and she looked more amazing in person. Body is definitely pleasing on the eyes and she dresses to impress. She is very accommodating and desires to please you. She definitely gets into the meeting, as we started out with BBBJ that was very high caliber, then things really got heated when we got into DATY. She loves being tasted and handled correctly by her daddy. After both of us were done exploring each other orally and was fully hard, I got down to the real fun. Adhering to safety first, I put protection measures in place, then I ran her through the gamut of positions. She loved MISH and CG but her favorite is Doggystyle. The view from the backside was fabulous and I stroked hard and smacked her firm round ass until I was ready to pop. Slid off the condom and delivered a hefty amount of cum all over her breasts and chest area. I contributed 250 to her allowance fund and will without a doubt spend additional quality time with her again.

[BookerTNelson]

I had the distinct pleasure of spending some quality time with this SA newbie. Cyn has only been on SA for roughly 3 weeks. After contacting her, communication over the past 2 weeks leading up to the meeting was very cordial and I had a hunch we would have a good time because the vibe was there via text. She is definitely the young woman in her SA pics and she looked more amazing in person. Body is definitely pleasing on the eyes and she dresses to impress. She is very accommodating and desires to please you. She definitely gets into the meeting, as we started out with BBBJ that was very high caliber, then things really got heated when we got into DATY. She loves being tasted and handled correctly by her daddy. After both of us were done exploring each other orally and was fully hard, I got down to the real fun. Adhering to safety first, I put protection measures in place, then I ran her through the gamut of positions. She loved MISH and CG but her favorite is Doggystyle. The view from the backside was fabulous and I stroked hard and smacked her firm round ass until I was ready to pop. Slid off the condom and delivered a hefty amount of cum all over her breasts and chest area. I contributed 250 to her allowance fund and will without a doubt spend additional quality time with her again.Good find.

[EyeGetsPussy]

Thanks. Initially I thought she was TGTBT until I received a pic offline and then to actually meet her in person. She's definitely a home run in my book.


Good find.

[YoungHezzy]

Thanks. Initially I thought she was TGTBT until I received a pic offline and then to actually meet her in person. She's definitely a home run in my book.She's not a newbie new profile LOL she's been reviewed and yea one of the coolest chicks up there.

[Unassuming2018]

I had the distinct pleasure of spending some quality time with this SA newbie. Cyn has only been on SA for roughly 3 weeks. After contacting her, communication over the past 2 weeks leading up to the meeting was very cordial and I had a hunch we would have a good time because the vibe was there via text. She is definitely the young woman in her SA pics and she looked more amazing in person. Body is definitely pleasing on the eyes and she dresses to impress. She is very accommodating and desires to please you. She definitely gets into the meeting, as we started out with BBBJ that was very high caliber, then things really got heated when we got into DATY. She loves being tasted and handled correctly by her daddy. After both of us were done exploring each other orally and was fully hard, I got down to the real fun. Adhering to safety first, I put protection measures in place, then I ran her through the gamut of positions. She loved MISH and CG but her favorite is Doggystyle. The view from the backside was fabulous and I stroked hard and smacked her firm round ass until I was ready to pop. Slid off the condom and delivered a hefty amount of cum all over her breasts and chest area. I contributed 250 to her allowance fund and will without a doubt spend additional quality time with her again.She is fun, but she isn't a newbie, LOL. See previous reviews on here by BG. I've seen her on SA and WYP for about 3-4 months. Changes up her profile from time to time. No dig against her at all, just pointing it out. All in all, very cost vs fun positive ratio.

[EyeGetsPussy]

Heezy / Unassuming,

LOL. Thanks for letting me know she's not a newbie. LOL. I thought I struck good. LOL as I was strictly going off the date it showed she had been a member on SA. I was not aware she had been advertising across other dating platforms. Great visit and she was indeed fun.


She is fun, but she isn't a newbie, LOL. See previous reviews on here by BG. I've seen her on SA and WYP for about 3-4 months. Changes up her profile from time to time. No dig against her at all, just pointing it out. All in all, very cost vs fun positive ratio.

[Scorpio22]

I had the distinct pleasure of spending some quality time with this SA newbie. Cyn has only been on SA for roughly 3 weeks. After contacting her, communication over the past 2 weeks leading up to the meeting was very cordial and I had a hunch we would have a good time because the vibe was there via text. She is definitely the young woman in her SA pics and she looked more amazing in person. Body is definitely pleasing on the eyes and she dresses to impress. She is very accommodating and desires to please you. She definitely gets into the meeting, as we started out with BBBJ that was very high caliber, then things really got heated when we got into DATY. She loves being tasted and handled correctly by her daddy. After both of us were done exploring each other orally and was fully hard, I got down to the real fun. Adhering to safety first, I put protection measures in place, then I ran her through the gamut of positions. She loved MISH and CG but her favorite is Doggystyle. The view from the backside was fabulous and I stroked hard and smacked her firm round ass until I was ready to pop. Slid off the condom and delivered a hefty amount of cum all over her breasts and chest area. I contributed 250 to her allowance fund and will without a doubt spend additional quality time with her again.


She is fun, but she isn't a newbie, LOL. See previous reviews on here by BG. I've seen her on SA and WYP for about 3-4 months. Changes up her profile from time to time. No dig against her at all, just pointing it out. All in all, very cost vs fun positive ratio.Yeah she's another I had been trying to get that's her second profile, I tried back months ago to get her when she first got on, wanted M&G and gave me grief over providing her a test to see her and I never got opportunity to see her. I messaged her new profile but she hasn't logged in weeks. I did find her social media from another girl I saw on SA (I know notice a lot of them follow each other) not sure if contacting her on there for arrangement would be best move. If she doesn't log back on SA this summer I'll just say the hell with it and send her a dm.

[EyeGetsPussy]

She is definitely worth it. I had a great time with her. That's an interesting observation that these girls follow each other on social media and are on dating apps at the same time. I am not a big user of social media but it might behoove me to start learning. LOL.


Yeah she's another I had been trying to get that's her second profile, I tried back months ago to get her when she first got on, wanted M&G and gave me grief over providing her a test to see her and I never got opportunity to see her. I messaged her new profile but she hasn't logged in weeks. I did find her social media from another girl I saw on SA (I know notice a lot of them follow each other) not sure if contacting her on there for arrangement would be best move. If she doesn't log back on SA this summer I'll just say the hell with it and send her a dm.

[BookerTNelson]

She is definitely worth it. I had a great time with her. That's an interesting observation that these girls follow each other on social media and are on dating apps at the same time. I am not a big user of social media but it might behoove me to start learning. LOL.Instagram has been a great hunting ground for me. You definitely notice how many of these girls follow each other, go to the same places, etc.

[JustLonely]

Instagram has been a great hunting ground for me. You definitely notice how many of these girls follow each other, go to the same places, etc.I have fucked 4 of the 5 friends all pictured together on my old SB's Facebook page by messaging them directly. Smiles all around and no mention of the others knowing! Everyone said don't tell anyone.

[BookerTNelson]

I have fucked 4 of the 5 friends all pictured together on my old SB's Facebook page by messaging them directly. Smiles all around and no mention of the others knowing! Everyone said don't tell anyone.Exactly. Either they all know and don't care or they're all sneaking and doing it while not being honest with friends. I've found gold on IG, Tinder, FB and other social media sites just by approaching them directly. At this point they all know the bowl is out there.

[EyeGetsPussy]

Gentlemen,

Thanks for sharing that tidbit of information. This really is eye opening as I would have never thought to connect the dots using social media platforms. I guess I'd better get "social media" savvy in a hurry and see if I can cash in. And I assume approaching them directly and getting straight to the point about what I'm looking for is a good strategy?


Exactly. Either they all know and don't care or they're all sneaking and doing it while not being honest with friends. I've found gold on IG, Tinder, FB and other social media sites just by approaching them directly. At this point they all know the bowl is out there.

[BookerTNelson]

Gentlemen,

Thanks for sharing that tidbit of information. This really is eye opening as I would have never thought to connect the dots using social media platforms. I guess I'd better get "social media" savvy in a hurry and see if I can cash in. And I assume approaching them directly and getting straight to the point about what I'm looking for is a good strategy?There's a bit of a dance to the initial conversation but I have something in my bio that states why I'm here LOL. For me it's just the digital way that I used to find SB's before SA.

Oh, this is also a GREAT way to get insight in to who you're meeting for your own safety and protection.

[EyeGetsPussy]

Booker,

Thanks for the mentoring sessions. LOL! Much appreciated.


There's a bit of a dance to the initial conversation but I have something in my bio that states why I'm here LOL. For me it's just the digital way that I used to find SB's before SA.

Oh, this is also a GREAT way to get insight in to who you're meeting for your own safety and protection.

[EyeGetsPussy]

Had a chance to spend some fun time with Annie. Nice and cool lady and just the right thickness in all the right places. She is very accommodating. After some small talk to break the ice, we started our fun time. We went through the standard fun stuff beginning with a nice BBBJ and on to DATY. BBBJ did the job and I was solid. She unequivocally loves her clit and booty massaged with my tongue, which got her to her first orgasm and she let me know that she had "cummed. " I then grabbed some protection and went to work in missionary, her legs in the air and me pounding hard for some time before letting her control things a bit as we switched to CG. Chick loves to ride and let it be known. After she was satisfied with the results of riding, I flipped her on her tummy and stroked hard in doggie to the finish line where I took off the protection and launched a big nut all over her smooth thick ass. We then freshened up and departed. I deposited 175 into her wallet as a show of appreciation for our fun time. She is definitely worthy of a second visit with me.

[EyeGetsPussy]

Had a good encounter with Jonquille. One minor hiccup during initial text conversations that almost killed the deal and that was her having to perform a blowjob. Initially she said no blowjob on first meeting and I respectfully told her that would be a dealbreaker. After more texting she finally agreed so our meeting took place. She's a real cute chick with an island flare, and came to me dressed really cute, hair and make up done and made a real good first fuckable impression. She is a talker so be ready for a bit of in person conversation before anything begins. After discussing a couple of social topics it was time to begin. Both of us undressed and she has nice toned body. Started out with BBBJ that was average, nothing to get excited about but it did the trick. Moved to DATY and she loved getting pussy eaten and tells you where she likes your tongue. It was cool she got into it and easily came. I grabbed some protection for safety and had fun fucking her in all positions. She loves to tell you when you are hitting it correctly as she repeatedly said "ooh, right there, right there don't stop" and she tells you when she is about to cum. I loved the vocal shout outs in each position and she definitely loves to fuck and handles the dick well. Finished her off in doggie and shot my cum all over her ass. We cleaned up and went on our way. Gifted her 175 for our meet up and I'll probably text her soon to explore her more.

[EyeGetsPussy]

I understand I'm still a newbie to the site but I appreciate the mentoring I have received thus far. I just collected telephone numbers on the following ladies. Ran a search on the forum (hope I searched correctly) but came up empty. I was wondering if any are legitimate before I deep dive into conversations. I appreciate any information available.

[Scorpio22]

Had a chance to spend some fun time with Annie. Nice and cool lady and just the right thickness in all the right places. She is very accommodating. After some small talk to break the ice, we started our fun time. We went through the standard fun stuff beginning with a nice BBBJ and on to DATY. BBBJ did the job and I was solid. She unequivocally loves her clit and booty massaged with my tongue, which got her to her first orgasm and she let me know that she had "cummed. " I then grabbed some protection and went to work in missionary, her legs in the air and me pounding hard for some time before letting her control things a bit as we switched to CG. Chick loves to ride and let it be known. After she was satisfied with the results of riding, I flipped her on her tummy and stroked hard in doggie to the finish line where I took off the protection and launched a big nut all over her smooth thick ass. We then freshened up and departed. I deposited 175 into her wallet as a show of appreciation for our fun time. She is definitely worthy of a second visit with me.She actually responded to my message yesterday. Told me she was celibate smh.

[Scorpio22]

I understand I'm still a newbie to the site but I appreciate the mentoring I have received thus far. I just collected telephone numbers on the following ladies. Ran a search on the forum (hope I searched correctly) but came up empty. I was wondering if any are legitimate before I deep dive into conversations. I appreciate any information available.Tastychef is real deal had a fun time with her, I'd say focus on her first if your not getting anywhere yet with the others.

I talked to kyamarri and she seems down but is asking for "gas" money upfront, Its not alot but I'm wary of anyone asking for money upfront for gas like they can't gas their own vehicle. I'm not sure if will pull trigger cause I hate sending money blind just to have the girl block me like a sucker for sending her free money.

Cooterqueen I talked with months ago but it fell through for some reason and I was never able to see her.

I've tried to contact babygirlkay for like a year, she just logged back on recently but still won't reply to my messages.

I think weninrome just stopped texting me back when I tried her.

[BookerTNelson]

She actually responded to my message yesterday. Told me she was celibate smh.I can confirm she's not celibate LOL.

[EyeGetsPussy]

I guess it's hit or miss with these chicks sometimes.


She actually responded to my message yesterday. Told me she was celibate smh

[EyeGetsPussy]

Thanks for the rundown and confirmation that Tastychef is legit. I'm closing in on both CooterQueen and WenInRome and making progress with babygirlkay; will focus on Tasty as a backup in the those two fall through. Kya has not solicited me for any cash in advance but it's crazy that a chick will burn a potential bridge and opportunity to make a decent allowance by hustling $5-10 for gas money out of men.


Tastychef is real deal had a fun time with her, I'd say focus on her first if your not getting anywhere yet with the others.

I talked to kyamarri and she seems down but is asking for "gas" money upfront, Its not alot but I'm wary of anyone asking for money upfront for gas like they can't gas their own vehicle. I'm not sure if will pull trigger cause I hate sending money blind just to have the girl block me like a sucker for sending her free money.

Cooterqueen I talked with months ago but it fell through for some reason and I was never able to see her.

I've tried to contact babygirlkay for like a year, she just logged back on recently but still won't reply to my messages.

I think weninrome just stopped texting me back when I tried her.

[EyeGetsPussy]

LOL. Man you have your pulse on all of these women. Sounds like you had a pretty good time with Annie as well.


I can confirm she's not celibate LOL.

[YoungHezzy]

Thanks for the rundown and confirmation that Tastychef is legit. I'm closing in on both CooterQueen and WenInRome and making progress with babygirlkay; will focus on Tasty as a backup in the those two fall through. Kya has not solicited me for any cash in advance but it's crazy that a chick will burn a potential bridge and opportunity to make a decent allowance by hustling $5-10 for gas money out of menYea never send a single cent before meeting never comes thru the way it works is in there young minds if you get a few guys for 10 or 20 it's easier than actually meeting.

[Scorpio22]

I can confirm she's not celibate LOL.
I guess it's hit or miss with these chicks sometimes.Finally got her to text me but her communication has been poor, texted me back a couple times yesterday after work and she's quiet now. Log on to SA this morning and see her online of course. How long did it take you fellas to close deal? Any other intel you can share on what she responds to? I seem to have lost my touch, I was knocking them down a year or two ago but since I loged back on beginning of June haven't been able to pull anything new despite talking to a bunch of girls. I even had a young tender over couple days ago that walked out on me after we had already discussed what the arrangement was and she got cold feet giving me the why don't you just get an escort speech SMH. I need something new, I'm getting restless LOL.

[EyeGetsPussy]

It took me about 2 weeks of texting before I was finally able to secure the arrangement. Nothing spectacular as far as conversation as we basically chatted about things going on in the world and we chatted about the BLM movement. Give her some time and I'm sure she will come around to you. Yeah SA has been decent for me recently since I have a little time on my hand to devote to the hobby. I splurge too much. Man that's pretty wild to have a young tenderloin in your grasps and then she gets cold feet and walks out on you; I would have been so upset especially if you put in a lot of time to make that happen. Nothing worse than some female who wastes your time. Good luck to you and it's great getting your insight on things.


Finally got her to text me but her communication has been poor, texted me back a couple times yesterday after work and she's quiet now. Log on to SA this morning and see her online of course. How long did it take you fellas to close deal? Any other intel you can share on what she responds to? I seem to have lost my touch, I was knocking them down a year or two ago but since I loged back on beginning of June haven't been able to pull anything new despite talking to a bunch of girls. I even had a young tender over couple days ago that walked out on me after we had already discussed what the arrangement was and she got cold feet giving me the why don't you just get an escort speech SMH. I need something new, I'm getting restless LOL.

[YoungHezzy]

Finally got her to text me but her communication has been poor, texted me back a couple times yesterday after work and she's quiet now. Log on to SA this morning and see her online of course. How long did it take you fellas to close deal? Any other intel you can share on what she responds to? I seem to have lost my touch, I was knocking them down a year or two ago but since I loged back on beginning of June haven't been able to pull anything new despite talking to a bunch of girls. I even had a young tender over couple days ago that walked out on me after we had already discussed what the arrangement was and she got cold feet giving me the why don't you just get an escort speech SMH. I need something new, I'm getting restless LOLI went through the same thing had developed a reputation do I just switched my profile and burner number makes it easier LOL.

[RavensFan2012]

This one is running the need gas money scam. I wish they'd come up with some new scams, that one isn't any fun. I like to play with them for awhile.

[Scorpio22]

It took me about 2 weeks of texting before I was finally able to secure the arrangement. Nothing spectacular as far as conversation as we basically chatted about things going on in the world and we chatted about the BLM movement. Give her some time and I'm sure she will come around to you. Yeah SA has been decent for me recently since I have a little time on my hand to devote to the hobby. I splurge too much. Man that's pretty wild to have a young tenderloin in your grasps and then she gets cold feet and walks out on you; I would have been so upset especially if you put in a lot of time to make that happen. Nothing worse than some female who wastes your time. Good luck to you and it's great getting your insight on things.*update* She is asking for a "deposit" now to ensure she is not being scammed amid all her offers. Since you guys have seen her I'm assuming she is trustworhty but this "deposit" nonsense is getting out of hand its the most common scam among these cashapps. I hate this whole money app wave so much now smh. Did she hit you guys up for a deposit?

[EyeGetsPussy]

Young Heezy,

You make a great point! I'll have to put that in my tool bag and use after a few months. I'm pretty sure SA is being discussed among women somewhere and developing a fresh profile and number can potentially work. Thanks for sharing that perspective.


I went through the same thing had developed a reputation do I just switched my profile and burner number makes it easier LOL.

[Sircmc17]

Hi all, I wanted to pass along my experiences with Coco. She is new to all this an not much experience that being said takes direction very well and is up for just about anything except Greek Island getaways. At this moment she only has email and SA to contact with people but she is very real and accommodating. She is petite maybe 5'2" 100 lbs. But greta if you like slim black women.

https://www.seeking.com/member/668c43b0-653a-4377-8207-8d85901bc120

[Johnny 5]

I created a new profile on SA in May and went premium for a month. Now that the subscription ended, I figured I would report on my experience. I won't identify most of them, but hopefully the stories will be worthwhile.

SBs I have met:

1. Dreamingofsugar (https://www.seeking.com/member/c93d87ed-0697-4c36-924a-e43915866cf9). After a couple of brief introductory messages, she went pretty quickly into asking about the arrangement and wanting to know when we could meet. She said she's in North Carolina but is willing to travel up here.

She's very cute, clean, young, and very awkward initially. She is actually in an open relationship, and he drove her to our meeting, but it wasn't an issue. Aside from the money, she said she's in the sugar bowl because she got into that relationship with no other real experience, and this was something she was always interested in trying out. After a few minutes of talking, we got into the action. Despite her anxiety, she performed extremely well. Very responsive to DATY, fingers, BBBJ, and CFS in K9. She won't kiss or cuddle (or even give a hug afterward), and no Greek. Basically one pop for me and we were done, so it was about 30 minutes total. She wanted 250. Not the best deal, but I don't regret it. I'll probably see her again after things settle down for me.

2. Samantha, who I reported on a couple of weeks ago and have not seen since. She was ok, but I've got other priorities at the moment.

3. Early 20's, college student home for the summer. Bigger girl but cute, and good personality. Her profile indicated that she was pretty open to things in the bedroom. We texted for a couple of weeks off site, then had a meet and greet in which we talked for two hours and ended with an amazing kiss. A week later, we met at my place. It wasn't quite as freaky as I expected, but still quite good. We've seen each other a few more times since then, but she's leaving soon.

4. Early 20's, short Navy girl. I hit her up on SA shortly after she created her profile. She was clearly not sure what to make of the whole sugar thing, so we just kept talking, eventually texting off site. Then one night, she randomly asked what I was doing. I had nothing going on, so she asked if I wanted to meet up later. Of course I did. She asked how much was reasonable, I suggested 200, and she accepted. For the next couple of hours we texted about things we liked doing in the bedroom. She was clearly getting worked up, and she said it had been a while for her since she had been with anybody.

When she finally arrived at my place, she was so much cuter than her pictures, even though she was wearing gym clothes. She was also pretty nervous, but she got comfortable quickly when we started making out, which transitioned to a BBBJ, then DATY for what felt like 20 minutes. She got so wet I took some of it and used it as lube for my finger in her ass. Then I flipped her over for some K9, during which she came again. Then we talked for another 30 minutes, which probably would've been longer if it hadn't been so late and she had a fairly long drive back.

Overall, that was one of the best experiences I've had in a while. I think it was that it was all unexpected but she followed through, and she was even better than I imagined in every way. I stayed awake for an hour after she left that night in disbelief that it all actually happened.

Anyway, since then she became much less responsive to messages for a couple of weeks. I know she had some things going on, so that was fine, and I left it open to her on what she wanted to do. She appears to have deactivated her SA account, too. In the last couple of days, she has been a little more talkative and said that she was still processing the whole sugar thing, but she expressed an interest in maybe meeting again, so we shall see.

Some potentials that I have been talking to:

5. Early 20's grad student. I contacted her late one night within a couple of hours after she created her profile, and we had a long conversation in the SA messages that was part getting to know each other, part negotiation. She gave off a strong platonic vibe initially, but she also said she's leaving her options open. Normally I would've just passed at that point, but she's really smart and really cute, we are of similar minds on a lot of things, and I am curious to see how it plays out. I see it as a low risk with a potentially very high reward over the long term. We currently talk on the phone a few times a week with occasional texting in between.

She hasn't been active on SA in more than a month, but we talked about her experience on there. She told me that 95% of the responses she got on the site were "gross" and way too forward.

6. 19 year old. Kind of a bigger girl with a cute face, we've been texting for more than a month but haven't met because she doesn't currently have a car and lives pretty far from me (even though her profile originally said Virginia Beach). When we first started texting, she was open with her curiosity about being with an older guy. So I'm going to go with that and keep talking to her until we actually meet or fade apart, which somehow hasn't happened yet.

7. Mid 20's Latina. Cute girl, very friendly to talk to via text. She had one SB / SD relationship before but it had faded apart. She has a job and doesn't seem to have a particularly high allowance request. We had scheduled a M&G a few days ago but she cancelled the day of in order to pick up a shift at work. She and I are still talking, so hopefully we can make it happen soon.

8. Mid 20's retail worker. She has a kind of an alternative look that I find attractive. Very sporadic texter, and a lot of her responses are just one word "yeah" "LOL" "okay". It drives me crazy. She actually suggested a M&G a few weeks ago, and we had set up a time, but then that morning we mutually agreed to try another time. We haven't discussed allowances. Maybe it will happen, but I'm not too concerned about it.

9. Early 20's college student. I was intrigued by her profile even though it gave off a very platonic vibe. After a couple of weeks, we finally had a conversation about the arrangement. She said she would not commit to anything sexual off the bat. I said ok, we can keep talking and meet and take our time to develop something if it's there, but I don't want to be platonic in the long term. We're still texting, and maybe we'll meet up soon. Nothing is scheduled though.

10. Mid 20's wannabe findomme. I contacted her shortly after I started my profile because she had cute pictures (even though she was on the bigger side). We started texting, and then it came out that she was into findomme stuff and advertises for it on fetlife and other places, but she was interested in a regular sugar relationship with me. Exactly what she thinks that entails, I still don't know. She has also expressed general frustration about being low on cash, and I've already had to have a discussion with her about not expecting too much from me. I'm thinking of cutting all contact off with her soon.

11. Formerly known as Gusparis, but her profile name is now a bunch of numbers. She has been reported on here, but I'm just curious about what she's like in person even though her ppm is at GPS levels. Her texting is very sporadic. We had a meeting tentatively scheduled last week, but she didn't reply back to me the day of. Oh well.

12. Early 20's tall Navy girl. Seemed pretty friendly in texting, but also drama-prone and financially needy. Her pictures are hot though. She went silent for a week and then came back saying that she was having trouble selling a motorcycle to raise some cash.

Others I have encountered who aren't potentials anymore:

13. BabyBriar321. We had been texting regularly for a week, and then she left my last few messages on read even though I thought we were getting along well. She had said she wanted to get to know people for a few weeks before turning intimate, but she was definitely down for it eventually. I suspect she's got GPS though. I would be curious to read reports from anybody else who has contacted her.

14. Spoillovebug. Asked me for money after only a couple of messages. I told her I didn't give money without actually meeting, and that was it.

15. Queenveexox. Looking for platonic, basically. Her messages with me were mostly just complaining about other guys who wanted more, and she claimed to have met a guy and sold pictures to him, but then he shared them or something. I don't know. She just had a sad tone about her, and I'm not looking to be a platonic white knight.

16. Shonnybaby. She has a profile on SA, but I actually met her several times a few months ago through Tinder. Cute girl, but eventually I asked her if she was willing to let me DATY, and she said no. I told her that was a dealbreaker for me, then she tried to convince me that she didn't actually say no to it. Also, she had a "sister" also on Tinder (and maybe SA at one time, but I haven't seen her profile recently) I met once who was much bigger and less attractive. I saw Shonny a second time before I saw the sister again, and the sister texted me to call me out on it. That whole episode gave me negative feelings toward Shonny as well, even though she said she didn't mind. So this time I blocked her from SA to avoid it altogether.

[WilyBird63]

Hey everyone. I have had some pretty good success of SBs agreeing to good ppm and was curious if anyone has used a hotel that takes cash Southside & peninsula side. For obvious reasons can't use card. You can pm or post here but just wanted to see if there were any decent ones I could use if need be. Thanks.

[BookerTNelson]

*update* She is asking for a "deposit" now to ensure she is not being scammed amid all her offers. Since you guys have seen her I'm assuming she is trustworhty but this "deposit" nonsense is getting out of hand its the most common scam among these cashapps. I hate this whole money app wave so much now smh. Did she hit you guys up for a deposit?I seemed to have caught her pre deposit but passed her info along to a buddy that gave me the same feedback you just did. It seems her popularity spiked and she might be trying to cash in. She was a bit naive to the bowl when we met but seems to have found guidance since then. I hope it's not a white knight filling her head with the evils.

[SwordKnight]

Hey everyone. I have had some pretty good success of SBs agreeing to good ppm and was curious if anyone has used a hotel that takes cash Southside & peninsula side. For obvious reasons can't use card. You can pm or post here but just wanted to see if there were any decent ones I could use if need be. Thanks.Knights Inn on Lynnhaven used to take cash, although they still wanted an I'd. Probably also wanted to take card info in case of damage to the room, but I don't recall specifically--it's been a year or two.

[EyeGetsPussy]

I finally got up close and personal with Kay. Handed over a gift of 200 and had a great experience. She has a killer body and I was pleasantly surprised. We made small talk to break the ice as we undressed and got down to business. I leaned in and planted a couple kisses to her neck area and things took off from there. I worked my hands in and around her nice firm tits while gently squeezing her nipples. After a few minutes of breasts play, I made my way downtown and DATY was pleasurable. After dining it was now her turn to pleasure me. She provided a very nice and sensual BBBJ and within minutes I was ready for the featured show. Safety first, I slipped on a condom and we started out with her riding me in CG before flipping her where I pumped hard as she rode in RCG. Loved seeing her look back at me while I was tapping her pussy good. After RCG I was ready to long stoke this beautiful ass so I put her in doggie and began my workout. Very good session in doggie as she was throwing that butt back into me as I thrusting long, hard and deep. Good feedback from the moans and groans, and after about 20 minutes I could no longer hold out. I slipped off the condom and began to jack off until I delivered my sperm all over her ass. We cleaned up and departed.

[EyeGetsPussy]

Received several messages on SA from PYTSweetHeart and decided to hit her up. After an evening of texting she was very eager to meet without any hesitation. I arranged to meet the next day. I got a spot in Va Beach. She arrived at the room and she is definitely the girl on her profile. Cute, average build and not bad on the eyes. She was a little nervous but I put her at ease. I gave her a gift of 175. We talked a little beforehand then I was ready to fuck. We both undressed and I had her start out with a BBBJ. She loves to suck dick and takes direction extremely well. I had her sucking both my dick and my nuts and had everything sloppy. Took my finger and was caressing her ass and slipped finger into backdoor without any objection (mental note for next visit). Worked her up pretty good. Then I laid her down in bed and sucked on her clit until she said she was ready to ride. CG is her favorite position so I let her ride until she told me she was about to cum. I then got her off and turned to doggie my favorite position and pumped hard to the finish line when I pulled off condom, positioned her on the bed and let go of my cum all over her face. We cleaned up and departed. I plan to explore more with PYT with a trip to the Greek Islands next meeting.

[EyeGetsPussy]

Made time to connect with CollegeGal in Va Beach and had a smooth encounter. Very good text conversations prior which made our meet up a breeze. Cute chick in person and very laid back. Provided her a gift of 175 and then it was on to fun. (Note that CollegeGal does not allow any kissing or anal play of any kind). We started out with BBBJ. She was pretty nasty with her mouth and tongue, lots of sucking, licking and slurping, and it didn't take long for my dick to swell up. She even gave me some ball play which was nice. Satisfied with the BJ, I put her on her back and began to taste her pussy. She loved being eaten out and fingered and it didn't take her long to reach her first orgasm. As always safety first, I stretched out a condom over my fully erect dick, then commenced the final round by put her in missionary. I was in the mood for pounding and with her legs over my shoulders and her arms wrapped around me, I pounded her sweet little pussy. Loved how she was moaning how good my dick felt the entire time until it was time for me to cum. Pulled out and cummed all over her pussy and stomach. We both got cleaned up and left.

[EyeGetsPussy]

Most hotels will accept cash if you pay upfront. Some may ask for a credit card for incidentals ($20-50), so I carry a pre-paid refillable VISA that I keep $50 on just in case. I hope this helps and good luck with your SBs.


Hey everyone. I have had some pretty good success of SBs agreeing to good ppm and was curious if anyone has used a hotel that takes cash Southside & peninsula side. For obvious reasons can't use card. You can pm or post here but just wanted to see if there were any decent ones I could use if need be. Thanks.

[Sircmc17]

Hello I have a friend who is looking for some friends in posted in utr as well but she is a good girl very accommodating. She is hoping to have some regular friends. Senior members PM me for information. Trades are welcome.

[YoungHezzy]

Do you have a link or profile for those 2.


Made time to connect with CollegeGal in Va Beach and had a smooth encounter. Very good text conversations prior which made our meet up a breeze. Cute chick in person and very laid back. Provided her a gift of 175 and then it was on to fun. (Note that CollegeGal does not allow any kissing or anal play of any kind). We started out with BBBJ. She was pretty nasty with her mouth and tongue, lots of sucking, licking and slurping, and it didn't take long for my dick to swell up. She even gave me some ball play which was nice. Satisfied with the BJ, I put her on her back and began to taste her pussy. She loved being eaten out and fingered and it didn't take her long to reach her first orgasm. As always safety first, I stretched out a condom over my fully erect dick, then commenced the final round by put her in missionary. I was in the mood for pounding and with her legs over my shoulders and her arms wrapped around me, I pounded her sweet little pussy. Loved how she was moaning how good my dick felt the entire time until it was time for me to cum. Pulled out and cummed all over her pussy and stomach. We both got cleaned up and left.

[Madaboutmax]

https://www.seeking.com/member/01fef4f0-ec65-4bbc-b509-f87f1862352e

Any Intel on this newbie. She is just my type!

[EyeGetsPussy]

I have her in my crosshairs as well. I messaged her but yet to receive a response.


https://www.seeking.com/member/01fef4f0-ec65-4bbc-b509-f87f1862352e

Any Intel on this newbie. She is just my type!

[Madaboutmax]

We moved to text and she has agreed to meet, but have not been able to nail down a time and place.


I have her in my crosshairs as well. I messaged her but yet to receive a response.

[RavensFan2012]

This one wants $650. That's some impressive GPS.

[EyeGetsPussy]

Cool. Hopefully I'll get a response soon. Good luck and let me know how it goes.


We moved to text and she has agreed to meet, but have not been able to nail down a time and place.

[EyeGetsPussy]

I made a trek over to the peninsula this week for a romp with Cinabon. We had been chatting for weeks before finally connecting. Contributed 200 to her gift fund. Real down to earth chick and we went through the normal things that consenting adults do in private. Began with BBBJ then on to DATY. Both events were extremely good and her box tasted sweet. I wrapped up for safety and then it was on to full covered sex, running her through the gauntlet of positions (CG & Missionary) with the grand finale of us finishing in doggie. Pussy was tight and moist and I stroked hard and deep until I busted in the condom. Great moans and groans and gets into sex. We freshened up and said our good-byes.

[Sircmc17]

I'm looking to see her as well let us know.


https://www.seeking.com/member/01fef4f0-ec65-4bbc-b509-f87f1862352e

Any Intel on this newbie. She is just my type!

[Madaboutmax]

I'm looking to see her as well let us know.I can tell she must be overwhelmed with the attention she is getting now. I hope I don't scare her away! LOL.

[RavensFan2012]

This one is either a pro a scammer or cop, not sure which one but I don't want any of them. She said my looks don't matter she was just here to make money (pro). She gave me dollar figures for specific acts (cop) then she said she needed money cash app to her prior to starting anything (scammer) I'm not taking the risk but I'd anyone does and she's legit I'd love to know.

[RavensFan2012]

This one is either a pro a scammer or cop, not sure which one but I don't want any of them. She said my looks don't matter she was just here to make money (pro). She gave me dollar figures for specific acts (cop) then she said she needed money cash app to her prior to starting anything (scammer) I'm not taking the risk but I'd anyone does and she's legit I'd love to know.Update-I decided I was going to give her a shot but I snapped her saying that I was paying her for her time and not for any sexual act that may or not occur. Then I screen shot that snap. She replied she didn't like screen shots and she would pass. As far as I'm concerned that's enough evidence it's the cops. Stay away fellas.

[RavensFan2012]

This one is a rinser. Wanted $100 for a m&g. I told her to go away.

[John HandCock]

Update-I decided I was going to give her a shot but I snapped her saying that I was paying her for her time and not for any sexual act that may or not occur. Then I screen shot that snap. She replied she didn't like screen shots and she would pass. As far as I'm concerned that's enough evidence it's the cops. Stay away fellas.Lmao, so what if she had taken you up on that deal. Stayed 10 minutes and asked for her time money? That's to much effort for cops to snag one guy at a time. She already had you after you continued the conversation. Probably just a pro who is as paranoid as you.

[RavensFan2012]

Lmao, so what if she had taken you up on that deal. Stayed 10 minutes and asked for her time money? That's to much effort for cops to snag one guy at a time. She already had you after you continued the conversation. Probably just a pro who is as paranoid as you.Wrong. She never had me because I never agree to a specific act for a specific amount of money. And in this hobby, there's no such thing as being too paranoid.

[EyeGetsPussy]

AmazonGoddez. Dropped 200 for some quality time. She has a very fit and toned body. Met up at the Oceanfront. Upon arrival and after some light conversation we both got comfortable and immediately got into sone heated foreplay. I started out with some breast play as she massaged me below. I went down for some DATY action and it didn't take long before I had her wet and crying out in pleasure. Changing positions I went 69 where we both enjoyed pleasing each other. Fully satisfied with that it was time to explore. Grabbed the condom and covered up and laid her flat on her back with legs spread apart and slid in. Worked her over real good. Switch to conventional MISH and pounded away. Turning her over it was time to finish up in doggie. Enjoyed the nice view from behind as I stroked her nice and tight pussy to the finish, nutting inside the condom. We then cleaned up and went on our way.

JKing23. Linked up with her for a real good time. She's a thick chick and absolutely has good personality, very submissive and takes direction well. Meet up was easy after a couple days of texting. She arrived at room and I put her at ease as we began conversing. After handing her a gift of 175, we both got comfortable and down to fun. Let her begin with BJ to get me totally in the mood. I was playing with her big breasts and fingering her pussy as she got into things. Followed directions well with all aspects of BJ until I was good and hard. I then went down below for DATY. Absolutely no issues and she loved getting her clit stimulated until she reached her orgasm. I then grabbed a condom and placed over my erect penis and let her ride in cowgirl. Played with them tits and nipples as she rode. After CG, I put Ms. King into doggie and went hard and deep. She loved her ass being smacked after each thrust as she gripped my dick with her pussy. After 15-20 minutes of stroking it was time to let go. I pulled off the condom and she let me ejaculate all over her breasts. We freshened up and left.

18Peaches. Took a long time in meeting this one, but it was well worth the 200 I extended to her as a show of my appreciation. If you admire a big booty vixen then she is for you. She arrived at the location looking pretty and smelling nice. We made small talk prior to us getting intimately acquainted. After getting comfortable we began with a hug so I could squeeze that round ass. It was soft. After feeling her up and down I instructed her on her knees. She gave a good BJ and I was pleased. I then laid her down and went to work in DATY which she was receptive with light moans letting me know she approved. My mind was made up from the start as, I was going to stroke this big soft ass from behind and enjoy the view. I covered up for safety and put her in doggie and enjoyed the ride for what seemed like an eternity until I felt myself ready to cum. I removed the condom and jerked myself to a happy ending all over that ass. After my satisfaction, we tidied up and headed out to our undisclosed destinations.

[Nymking]

Has anyone else been seeing things like this?

I had a girl message me two days ago on SA. The seeking line sounded maybe platonic, but the about me said "I am going through a very hard financial situation due to COVID-19 and willing to talk about any arrangements you have in mind," so I followed up. I replied and she sent her phone and email. We exchanged a few pleasantries thru email and I went back to her profile before turning to "business" and it now has added "As much as people want to have an arrangement with sex, I am saving myself for marriage," still with the "any arrangements" line. I can see missing a word in a long paragraph, but no way I missed that whole line. WTF, ok whatever. She replied back this morning, but I've cut off comm.

Another sent me a "hello" message late last night. I checked out her profile, it said "Spoil me and you won't regret it. I'm down for whatever you're interested in" and had tags of NSA, FWB. Was tired, so I only replied "hi" back. Went back to look at it this morning to reread the profile to come up with a better reply and it has that same "whatever" line with "Online ONLY" added at the very end. Again, no way I missed that. Still has the NSA FWB tags.

I've never seen profiles do a 180 in what they're seeking in the couple years I've been on there. Now there's two in 36 hours. Is this some new time wasting or bait and switch game, or just two weird coincidental cases?

[Johnny 5]

Has anyone else been seeing things like this?

I had a girl message me two days ago on SA. The seeking line sounded maybe platonic, but the about me said "I am going through a very hard financial situation due to COVID-19 and willing to talk about any arrangements you have in mind," so I followed up. I replied and she sent her phone and email. We exchanged a few pleasantries thru email and I went back to her profile before turning to "business" and it now has added "As much as people want to have an arrangement with sex, I am saving myself for marriage," still with the "any arrangements" line. I can see missing a word in a long paragraph, but no way I missed that whole line. WTF, ok whatever. She replied back this morning, but I've cut off comm.

Another sent me a "hello" message late last night. I checked out her profile, it said "Spoil me and you won't regret it. I'm down for whatever you're interested in" and had tags of NSA, FWB. Was tired, so I only replied "hi" back. Went back to look at it this morning to reread the profile to come up with a better reply and it has that same "whatever" line with "Online ONLY" added at the very end. Again, no way I missed that. Still has the NSA FWB tags.

I've never seen profiles do a 180 in what they're seeking in the couple years I've been on there. Now there's two in 36 hours. Is this some new time wasting or bait and switch game, or just two weird coincidental cases?I have seen it before with new profiles in their first couple of days, not so much with the ones who have been around a while. Even if they changed it to indicate platonic, I would still talk with them for a few more messages and let them confirm it directly to me. Sometimes they'll say online only or platonic in an attempt to avoid getting more explicit messages.

[EyeGetsPussy]

Tiia. Withdrew 180 from the ATM and donated the entire amount to cover fun with this chocolate treat. She is the real deal behind closed doors. Nice smooth brown body, round ass and firm breasts. Started off with her giving one hell of a sloppy BJ. She can deep throat and didn't mind playing with the balls. Lots of eye contact & dirty talk which was a huge turn on. After my dick was hard I honed in on her firm perky breasts and took them in my mouth. Great feedback from her and then dove in for a little pussy tasting. Nice pretty clit and pink pussy lips and she easily climaxed as my tongue devoured her. Chick loves DATY and didn't object when I placed finger in her asshole. Grabbed protective device to cover up and explored her in multiple positions (CG, MISH) and finished in doggie. Great rear view while smacking that booty. She's great with the sound effects and I could tell I was stretching that tight pussy to the limit from her reactions. Pussy creamed up nicely and after about 15 minutes thereabouts in doggie, it was time to blow my load. I pulled out and yanked off protection and jerked hard until I released warm cum all over her chest and breasts. As customary we freshened up, said goodbye and left the establishment.

Dutchess. Nice thick brown skin sister in all the right places and had a good time. Good attitude and aims to please. Contributed 150 donation and the sexual proceedings began. Overall cool meeting, started with BJ which got me nice and stiff. Dutchess has a decent set of breasts and I enjoyed sucking on her nipples. Went down below and paid attention to her fat juicy clit. Worked her good with some finger play until she was good and wet. Pulled out the condom to protect myself and went to work. Laid her down on her back and enjoyed myself for a while in missionary. Decent moans as I stroked deep. After MISH, put her on all fours at edge of bed and rammed home hard in doggie. She loved her ass being spread apart and smacked in the process. We both were into it and after a decent amount of time it was time to let go. Pulled off condom and turned the Dutchess over and had her watch as I massaged my dick with a vengeance until I cummed all over pussy! Both of us were fully satisfied, we washed up, gave each other a hug and went on our way.

Carolina Gal. Handed over 200 donation and had a perfect encounter with this chick. Will definitely be seeing her again! Girl has a banging body, super smart, and loves to please and be pleased as well. After getting formalities out of the way, we commenced with some light kissing and fondling which heated things up. Stretched her out flat across the bed and dined at the why, and other areas below. She got super moist and in almost no time she was panting until she reached her first O! Changing positions she seductively looked at me as she began a nice, soft and sensual BJ. Nice sounds and use of hands, along with her tongue and lips running the length of my pole. It didn't take long at all for me to achieve full erection and I was ready for more. After covering up, I had fun digging her out in CG and Doggie before finishing up in missionary. Enjoyed having those pretty legs over my shoulders as I pounded hard until finally busting in the condom. After finishing we engaged in a bit more small talk before finally cleaning up, saying goodbyes and leaving.

Lady Empress. Very good meeting despite no oral provided on first meet up. She's a mature lady and we settled on 120 as a donation. She arrived at the destination and was very friendly. She's very talkative and the touchy type. LOL which didn't bother me. After getting undressed, I laid down for a wonderful massage. She has a decent body and I had no trouble getting hard without the BJ. I then took a trip downtown for some DATY action immediately and we both got into it. Great feedback from sounds I was getting out of her and she let it be known when she came. Satisfied she had gotten her first O, I put a bag over my hard dick and placed her on all fours in the bed. With that pretty face in the pillow and ass up high, I went to work pounding that kitty out straight doggie style until I busted in the bag. We freshened up and made some more small talk before finally saying goodbye and leaving.

[MrDarkSkin1991]

Tiia. Withdrew 180 from the ATM and donated the entire amount to cover fun with this chocolate treat. She is the real deal behind closed doors. Nice smooth brown body, round ass and firm breasts. Started off with her giving one hell of a sloppy BJ. She can deep throat and didn't mind playing with the balls. Lots of eye contact & dirty talk which was a huge turn on. After my dick was hard I honed in on her firm perky breasts and took them in my mouth. Great feedback from her and then dove in for a little pussy tasting. Nice pretty clit and pink pussy lips and she easily climaxed as my tongue devoured her. Chick loves DATY and didn't object when I placed finger in her asshole. Grabbed protective device to cover up and explored her in multiple positions (CG, MISH) and finished in doggie. Great rear view while smacking that booty. She's great with the sound effects and I could tell I was stretching that tight pussy to the limit from her reactions. Pussy creamed up nicely and after about 15 minutes thereabouts in doggie, it was time to blow my load. I pulled out and yanked off protection and jerked hard until I released warm cum all over her chest and breasts. As customary we freshened up, said goodbye and left the establishment.

Dutchess. Nice thick brown skin sister in all the right places and had a good time. Good attitude and aims to please. Contributed 150 donation and the sexual proceedings began. Overall cool meeting, started with BJ which got me nice and stiff. Dutchess has a decent set of breasts and I enjoyed sucking on her nipples. Went down below and paid attention to her fat juicy clit. Worked her good with some finger play until she was good and wet. Pulled out the condom to protect myself and went to work. Laid her down on her back and enjoyed myself for a while in missionary. Decent moans as I stroked deep. After MISH, put her on all fours at edge of bed and rammed home hard in doggie. She loved her ass being spread apart and smacked in the process. We both were into it and after a decent amount of time it was time to let go. Pulled off condom and turned the Dutchess over and had her watch as I massaged my dick with a vengeance until I cummed all over pussy! Both of us were fully satisfied, we washed up, gave each other a hug and went on our way.
Carolina Gal. Handed over 200 donation and had a perfect encounter with this chick. Will definitely be seeing her again! Girl has a banging body, super smart, and loves to please and be pleased as well. After getting formalities out of the way, we commenced with some light kissing and fondling which heated things up. Stretched her out flat across the bed and dined at the why, and other areas below. She got super moist and in almost no time she was panting until she reached her first O! Changing positions she seductively looked at me as she began a nice, soft and sensual BJ. Nice sounds and use of hands, along with her tongue and lips running the length of my pole. It didn't take long at all for me to achieve full erection and I was ready for more. After covering up, I had fun digging her out in CG and Doggie before finishing up in missionary. Enjoyed having those pretty legs over my shoulders as I pounded hard until finally busting in the condom. After finishing we engaged in a bit more small talk before finally cleaning up, saying goodbyes and leaving.

Lady Empress. Very good meeting despite no oral provided on first meet up. She's a mature lady and we settled on 120 as a donation. She arrived at the destination and was very friendly. She's very talkative and the touchy type. LOL which didn't bother me. After getting undressed, I laid down for a wonderful massage. She has a decent body and I had no trouble getting hard without the BJ. I then took a trip downtown for some DATY action immediately and we both got into it. Great feedback from sounds I was getting out of her and she let it be known when she came. Satisfied she had gotten her first O, I put a bag over my hard dick and placed her on all fours in the bed. With that pretty face in the pillow and ass up high, I went to work pounding that kitty out straight doggie style until I busted in the bag. We freshened up and made some more small talk before finally saying goodbye and leaving.Thanks for the great reviews, is it possible you could provide the profile links to these ladies. The seeking search engine is HORRIBLE so a link could help. Thanks. I have spoke with Amazon a few times and she always seems to go ghost when we text. Hard to get up with her.

[EyeGetsPussy]

I appreciate the feedback.


Thanks for the great reviews, is it possible you could provide the profile links to these ladies. The seeking search engine is HORRIBLE so a link could help. Thanks. I have spoke with Amazon a few times and she always seems to go ghost when we text. Hard to get up with her.

[EyeGetsPussy]

Curlyxshaa. Donated 200. Bubbly chick with an athletic body and good personality; followed guidance given. Foreplay included BJ, DATY, and some fondling of the breasts. After I was at full erection, we proceeded to covered full sex and had a pleasurable time. Rocked her world nicely in missionary, and I put her on all fours with a great view from rear stroking in and out. It was time to finish up activities so I went hard to the end letting my semen seep out in the condom. We cleaned up and left.

https://www.seeking.com/member/ffd482b0-ac70-4e43-9a5d-f713e4b17cb6

[Madaboutmax]

I'm looking to see her as well let us know.I was finally able to get her to meet for a M&G. Took me weeks. She seemed very nervous and cautious at first, but loosened up. We agree to start an arrangement and our first real date was last night. I was not disappointed. At all! She spent the night and we went multiple rounds. She is a keeper!

[RavensFan2012]

Had high hopes for this one. Mature and nice. Made plans for a meet and greet today. Confirmed this afternoon but she ghosted me. Couldn't even have the decency to cancel. I should stop being surprised by the type of women I encounter on this damn site.

[Snake27]

I was finally able to get her to meet for a M&G. Took me weeks. She seemed very nervous and cautious at first, but loosened up. We agree to start an arrangement and our first real date was last night. I was not disappointed. At all! She spent the night and we went multiple rounds. She is a keeper!Nice to see someone knows how to do it. I still remember your advice on pursuing the kind of girl I like -- the "amateur".

http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?9746-quot-Sugarbabies-quot-quot-Arrangements-quot-Amateurs-or-Not&p=3729118. . (3rd post down on that page.).

Report on the girl I've dated since May. She's a thin muscular girl with pitch black skin who ran track in HS. Very sweet and affectionate, but not too affectionate. We text 3 times a week and date about once a week, 300 ppv, usually at her house but sometimes at a hotel because she's afraid of her reputation. She says she's exclusive to me and made a point of showing me screenshots of herself deleting her SA account. She was shy and scared on our first meet. It seems she had a bad childhood and has trouble trusting people. She's attending community college and is smart enough, but not very intellectually curious.

When we meet at her house, she meets me at the door naked and smiling. The sex is great, we have a great rapport, the best I've had with an SB. After a couple months I told her I should stop because I'm spending too much, my usual problem. But she wouldn't let me go. She said we should work it out -- the frequency, the amounts, maybe even free sometime. She persuaded me. It's difficult to find someone like her on SA, so I'll continue. I've spent more money on her than on any other SB, but it's not too bad because I don't go anywhere anymore -- an unexpected benefit of COVID-19.

[Madaboutmax]

I forgot I wrote that back then. I'm glad my experience has helped others. Sounds like you have a great SB. The best SB's I've been with have become friends. I'm still friends with my first long term SB from almost 9 years ago. We text each other a couple of times a week and have met for dinner a few times recently even though we haven't dated in maybe 7 years.


Nice to see someone knows how to do it. I still remember your advice on pursuing the kind of girl I like -- the "amateur".

http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?9746-quot-Sugarbabies-quot-quot-Arrangements-quot-Amateurs-or-Not&p=3729118. . (3rd post down on that page.).

Report on the girl I've dated since May. She's a thin muscular girl with pitch black skin who ran track in HS. Very sweet and affectionate, but not too affectionate. We text 3 times a week and date about once a week, 300 ppv, usually at her house but sometimes at a hotel because she's afraid of her reputation. She says she's exclusive to me and made a point of showing me screenshots of herself deleting her SA account. She was shy and scared on our first meet. It seems she had a bad childhood and has trouble trusting people. She's attending community college and is smart enough, but not very intellectually curious.

When we meet at her house, she meets me at the door naked and smiling. The sex is great, we have a great rapport, the best I've had with an SB. After a couple months I told her I should stop because I'm spending too much, my usual problem. But she wouldn't let me go. She said we should work it out -- the frequency, the amounts, maybe even free sometime. She persuaded me. It's difficult to find someone like her on SA, so I'll continue. I've spent more money on her than on any other SB, but it's not too bad because I don't go anywhere anymore -- an unexpected benefit of COVID-19.

[Snake27]

Madaboutmax's advice post is number 14689 on the Richmond SB thread. Whenever I click on that link your post is down the page by varying amounts, like sometimes 3rd, sometimes 7th. So that's why I'm giving the post number, at least that probably doesn't change. BTW, you could consider updating it or posting it here. Also, I didn't mean to imply that there is a right way or wrong way to go about this game. It's right when SB and SD agree and are happy. For example there is some stuff I'm not into, but who am I to judge?

[Snake27]

In my pursuit of "Amateur" SBs, I've learned a few things I've found to be important.

1) I catch them right after they first join. Like its been said, before they get jaded or chased away by the p4p offers.

2) I have a profile pic and an interesting profile, but not arrogant profile. Show a sense of humor and humility.

3) I compliment them in my first message and demonstrate I read their profile. Many are looking to be treated better then guys their age so I play the part by being a gentleman.

4) I share my success in past long term arrangements. Most newbies want someone who knows what they are doing and can show them the ropes.

5) I express an interest in developing a friendship, but not a serious relationship. They don't want to feel like escorts, but also don't want a boyfriend.

6) I make sure they know I understand the concept of an allowance, but never discuss specifics and that I make it clear i won't try to be the highest bidder. This weeds out the gps girls.

7) I subtly introduce my interest in intimacy, but i don't focus on it. This makes them feel like less of an escort, but also weeds the platonic girls.

8) I move offline quickly. I need to get them before they get jaded and disable their profile.

9) I don't push too hard, because I don't want to appear desperate or spook them away.

10) I schedule a meet and greet quickly. I never provide an allowance for the meet and greet, but also make it clear there are no expectations from them.

11) I always show a sense of humor. This takes the tension out of the discussion ad helps then feel comfortable.

12) I expect this to take a lot of work and I get rejected often, but I enjoy the challenge and the hunt. Persistence has paid off. Finding a straight p4 p deal with an escort doesn't meet my need for the "thrill of the chase".

I've had some great experiences that keep me coming back for more. I've had all night multiple rounds with extremely beautiful and freeky women where we never discussed an allowance (I've just slipped them something on their way out). This type of "relationship" allows many women to explore their freeky side in a comfortable non-judgemental setting.

I'm sure I've missed some other points and would be interested in things others do to pursue the elusive "Amateur" SB.Here is Madaboutmax's advice post 14689 on the Richmond SB thread. Very useful!

[BumbaCloth]

Any info on her?

https://www.seeking.com/member/2e03430b-6c4b-42aa-8db8-08fb54cd25e6

[JonnyRockett]

I know we all probably have different expectations from our SD / SB relationships, but it seems to me she wants am awful lot and has only hinted at platonic companionship in return.

If you're ok with that, then she seems like a good catch. She sounds smart and she's mature enough to know what she wants and not afraid to ask for it.

Good luck, brother.

JR.


Any info on her?

https://www.seeking.com/member/2e03430b-6c4b-42aa-8db8-08fb54cd25e6

[Madaboutmax]

Thanks for the re-post.

I still use essentially the same process and it works well for me and my target demographic.


Here is Madaboutmax's advice post 14689 on the Richmond SB thread. Very useful!

[Sircmc17]

Thats great to hear is she looking for others?


I was finally able to get her to meet for a M&G. Took me weeks. She seemed very nervous and cautious at first, but loosened up. We agree to start an arrangement and our first real date was last night. I was not disappointed. At all! She spent the night and we went multiple rounds. She is a keeper!

[Madaboutmax]

Thats great to hear is she looking for others?She implied that she was deleting her profile and I don't see her profile on the site anymore, but she may have blocked me.

[EyeGetsPussy]

JnaeLove. Finally linked up with Jnae after many weeks of texting. I donated 200 for the meet up. Hooked up at a secluded spot in VB Town Center. After introductions, we started out with some light kissing and groping. She has a nice fit body and got into activities immediately. I instructed her to get on her knees for a nice and slow blow. Decent head banging skills that got me firm in a hurry. After I was firm, I placed her in the bed and sucked her nipples before going downtown and eating her out to her first orgasm. Moving on we proceeded to covered full sex. I ran her through multiple positions and completed in missionary and busted in the condom. As always cleaned up and left the premises.

https://www.seeking.com/member/2ea51209-ead1-42f5-a6e9-a4d8a28435e7

Lightskinbeauty21. Had a cool date with this one on the peninsula. Donated 150 to have some fun. Cute chick, nice little body who was kinda quiet in the beginning but eventually got into things as we progressed. Started date out with a BJ (definitely had better but it got the mission accomplished), followed by DATY and on to covered full sex in multiple positions. Finished with some hard back shots until it was time for my release. I pulled out and stroked my dick until I dropped a load of semen all across her ass cheeks. We hit the shower to make ourselves presentable and left the hotel.

https://www.seeking.com/member/a971eee5-378d-4e18-81e0-17c3859af1d6

MePlusYouxo. Good fun date with this one over in Va Beach. Donated 160 and the festivities got started. If you like big butts, this chick fits the bill as she has a big rear end along with some thick lips on her and I was anxious to sample. She started with an enthusiastic BJ and she fondled the balls. She made good sounds on the dick and watching those lips got me hard pretty fast. Lots of eye contact and followed commands. We switched positions and I went below the belly button for a taste and was not disappointed. Ample feedback from loud moans. Satisfied I grabbed a cover, put her in doggie where I could enjoy the view of her ass. Remained in that position the duration of the visit until it was time for me to cum. Slid off condom and she watched as I tugged on my dick for a couple of minutes before bursting a load of cum on that fat ass. Took a shower to freshen up and left.

https://www.seeking.com/member/5440f798-544d-0460-456c-2b0328ed1dd3

Part 2 Pinkbandit. Had a second visit with Pink last week that turned out even better than our initial encounter. In my 3 years of sugar dating Pink is easily one of my top 5 all time favorites. She is the real deal and I highly recommend her. I received the ultimate girlfriend experience; I randomly sampled everything on her from head to toe. If you have not had an opportunity to meet this beauty you are missing out on a gem.

https://www.seeking.com/member/466e7846-6f26-4932-b2d9-b1b41e61b155

[RavensFan2012]

Very tough to make plans with this one. Sh canceled on me last minute the first time. Finally met straight to the FC. Pretty girl, spinner body. No baby damage. She informs me the first time she meets someone she doesn't give oral. Don't you love girls who spring that on you when you get there? Smh. We had agreed on 3 so I said if only give her 2. 4. Very little foreplay, no kissing. Starting in mish finished in doggie. Very transactional feel, will not repeat.

[DoggieFan]

Very tough to make plans with this one. Sh canceled on me last minute the first time. Finally met straight to the FC. Pretty girl, spinner body. No baby damage. She informs me the first time she meets someone she doesn't give oral. Don't you love girls who spring that on you when you get there? Smh. We had agreed on 3 so I said if only give her 2. 4. Very little foreplay, no kissing. Starting in mish finished in doggie. Very transactional feel, will not repeat.Link Please? DATY on the menu? Guessing from your post, probably not.

[RavensFan2012]

Link Please? DATY on the menu? Guessing from your post, probably not.https://www.seeking.com/member/077a7c26-a540-473e-82d5-1b4dd94ae9d0 No daty.

[Sircmc17]

I am wondering if anyone has information on this young woman? I am planning to take one for the team but just wanted information if anything was out there.

https://www.seeking.com/member/2f197528-8adb-4f04-b91b-588a8e10af52

[BumbaCloth]

Anyone seen here?

https://www.seeking.com/member/69791e5d-0669-4827-9764-5e618e62dc46

[MyDarkSide]

Mr. Darkside,

Truth be told, I'm a member as a sugar momma. So yeah, I can see her profile.

Serra.Well it took a while but you have good taste LOL. Probably the best body I've yet to meet on SA.

[DoggieFan]

Messaged this one in Virginia Beach. Qualified that she was good with a FWB arrangement & started texting. She sent pics, not model material but would do for a PPM arrangement, maybe $200-$300 tops. She tells me she consistently gets $500 a week allowance. Ok, meet once a week, twice, more?

I inform her that due to my travel schedule weekly / monthly regular arrangements won't work. She states $500 per meet won't work for her because she travels too & shops. WTF? So the $500 a week allowance includes weeks she can't see a guy?

Here is my reply: "That's my point, we'd probably see each other once a week. The $500 isn't over my price range, but I'm seeing several girls in the $300-$400 range that are, no offense, a bit hotter than you.

Not throwing shade on you, just being honest. Good luck, be safe. ".

She of course goes ballistic & tells me I have no money, I messaged her & then shows her true color.

What a class act! I love it when they expose there little evil hearts. It's like, "damn, I dodged that bullet".

" But if you feel that way you should've never messaged me dumbass once again I never contacted you and had no intentions on contacting you 😂, what you do don't hurt me cause look at you your on a site to pay woman and I'm on the site to trick off old white men like you simple as that your just a wallet to us so how can I be mad about that? LOL do have a blessed night don't get mad cause I was telling the truth. ".

And there it is: " why'all crackers be something else 😂.

https://www.seeking.com/messages/inbox/117da90b-91c5-4e59-8b37-9c0b539e2ee2

[Fyre757]

I have been talking to this lady who is DTF but she is asking 2 bills and a half. Based on her pics I am not sure that is a good price. I have searched but I have not seen any reviews. Please help if you have seen her before.

https://www.seeking.com/member/48eb4322-1978-4c1e-a796-14996fc9ceb8

[Fyre757]

I have seen her a few times and it has been a good time each time we met. Her boyfriend or husband usually brings her and drops her off and then goes and does something and picks her up. So she showed up at my room and we started with a little small chat and then got to work. She had some hair in her armpits that was a major turn off but her head game made up for it. The first time we met she was down for me to put my deposit in her so I wonder how many people do that. The second time we met she said her and her boyfriend decided protection was a must. Great BBBJ and does allow CIM. We went through all positions and she is a squirter if you hit it good. I would recommend and repeat for 2 bills deposit.

https://www.seeking.com/member/097b6f36-c2e7-40a8-8466-ec40932e9f1c

[Fyre757]

I saw this lady and after talking I was thinking this was going to be a good time. I was wrong! She does not look that big in her pics but she is a big girl who had gastric bypass. She has no teeth so you can get a gummy if that is what you are into. It was just weird. Underwear came off and I could not get it back on fast enough because it stunk. I said something to her about it and she said she new it was that way before she left the house and thinks she has a yeast infection. WTF! She offered a free BJ anytime I wanted it. No thanks.

https://www.seeking.com/member/7969a603-e949-411a-8670-0be121a09439

[DoggieFan]

JnaeLove. Finally linked up with Jnae after many weeks of texting. I donated 200 for the meet up. Hooked up at a secluded spot in VB Town Center. After introductions, we started out with some light kissing and groping. She has a nice fit body and got into activities immediately. I instructed her to get on her knees for a nice and slow blow. Decent head banging skills that got me firm in a hurry. After I was firm, I placed her in the bed and sucked her nipples before going downtown and eating her out to her first orgasm. Moving on we proceeded to covered full sex. I ran her through multiple positions and completed in missionary and busted in the condom. As always cleaned up and left the premises.
https://www.seeking.com/member/2ea51209-ead1-42f5-a6e9-a4d8a28435e7
Lightskinbeauty21. Had a cool date with this one on the peninsula. Donated 150 to have some fun. Cute chick, nice little body who was kinda quiet in the beginning but eventually got into things as we progressed. Started date out with a BJ (definitely had better but it got the mission accomplished), followed by DATY and on to covered full sex in multiple positions. Finished with some hard back shots until it was time for my release. I pulled out and stroked my dick until I dropped a load of semen all across her ass cheeks. We hit the shower to make ourselves presentable and left the hotel.
https://www.seeking.com/member/a971eee5-378d-4e18-81e0-17c3859af1d6
MePlusYouxo. Good fun date with this one over in Va Beach. Donated 160 and the festivities got started. If you like big butts, this chick fits the bill as she has a big rear end along with some thick lips on her and I was anxious to sample. She started with an enthusiastic BJ and she fondled the balls. She made good sounds on the dick and watching those lips got me hard pretty fast. Lots of eye contact and followed commands. We switched positions and I went below the belly button for a taste and was not disappointed. Ample feedback from loud moans. Satisfied I grabbed a cover, put her in doggie where I could enjoy the view of her ass. Remained in that position the duration of the visit until it was time for me to cum. Slid off condom and she watched as I tugged on my dick for a couple of minutes before bursting a load of cum on that fat ass. Took a shower to freshen up and left.
https://www.seeking.com/member/5440f798-544d-0460-456c-2b0328ed1dd3
Part 2 Pinkbandit. Had a second visit with Pink last week that turned out even better than our initial encounter. In my 3 years of sugar dating Pink is easily one of my top 5 all time favorites. She is the real deal and I highly recommend her. I received the ultimate girlfriend experience; I randomly sampled everything on her from head to toe. If you have not had an opportunity to meet this beauty you are missing out on a gem.
https://www.seeking.com/member/466e7846-6f26-4932-b2d9-b1b41e61b155Allowance fir Pinkbandit? I have when I do a review of a Baby & someone increases the price of poker on me.

[RavensFan2012]

Hey gents, wanted to see if anyone has experience with her prior to pulling the trigger.Yes. PM me for details.

[DWinthrop]

https://www.seeking.com/member/7eca677b-e12d-4fac-8478-9f0635143967

Met this little treat for a few hours of fun. She's a D1 athlete and has the body to show for it. Insisted on cover but one she showed up at the FC mounted me bare and let me BBFS the entire time. 10/10 would recommend, she's a freaky and eager college gal.

[ItsAHobby45]

https://www.seeking.com/member/7eca677b-e12d-4fac-8478-9f0635143967

Met this little treat for a few hours of fun. She's a D1 athlete and has the body to show for it. Insisted on cover but one she showed up at the FC mounted me bare and let me BBFS the entire time. 10/10 would recommend, she's a freaky and eager college gal.Good to hear as I'm about to meet her for some fun. Hopefully she allows bareback during our visit.

[ItsAHobby45]

Has anyone had a chance to see her? Claims she's 18 and has never done this before but it's pretty clear she is a pro. Bareback, no rules, reasonable allowance. Says she's currently living in her car.

https://www.seeking.com/member/5c1eda8a-c59e-4165-8fd8-fda545c5b921

[RavensFan2012]

https://www.seeking.com/member/7eca677b-e12d-4fac-8478-9f0635143967

Met this little treat for a few hours of fun. She's a D1 athlete and has the body to show for it. Insisted on cover but one she showed up at the FC mounted me bare and let me BBFS the entire time. 10/10 would recommend, she's a freaky and eager college gal.Damage please?

[Dash]

Sorry to clutter the forum.

The girl losing her temper and saying she takes advantage of "old white men" is a bit typical, as I have heard similar.

However, have no doubt that these females like white men, and don't mind if they are older, especially since they like money that older men have.

Girls who are young fear getting older, so assume men do too. We do, but much less than they do.

In Florida I met girls who preferred the guy to be square and have money, they got annoyed dating guys who had nothing to give in return for the young pussy and blow jobs they gave them.

[DWinthrop]

Good to hear as I'm about to meet her for some fun. Hopefully she allows bareback during our visit.Let us know, great tits on her. And pierced nipples, which are a favorite of mine.

[Snake27]

Report on the girl I've dated since May. She's a thin muscular girl with pitch black skin who ran track in HS. Very sweet and affectionate, but not too affectionate. We text 3 times a week and date about once a week, 300 ppv, usually at her house but sometimes at a hotel because she's afraid of her reputation. She says she's exclusive to me and made a point of showing me screenshots of herself deleting her SA account. She was shy and scared on our first meet. It seems she had a bad childhood and has trouble trusting people. She's attending community college and is smart enough, but not very intellectually curious.

When we meet at her house, she meets me at the door naked and smiling. The sex is great, we have a great rapport, the best I've had with an SB. After a couple months I told her I should stop because I'm spending too much, my usual problem. But she wouldn't let me go. She said we should work it out -- the frequency, the amounts, maybe even free sometime. She persuaded me. It's difficult to find someone like her on SA, so I'll continue. I've spent more money on her than on any other SB, but it's not too bad because I don't go anywhere anymore -- an unexpected benefit of COVID-19.Here's a follow-up about this SB, let me call her Julia for reference. Over a 4 month period I gave her $5000 at $300 ppv plus extras like like needing a locksmith when she left her keys in the car. I quit because I was spending too much, though with the pandemic I have nothing to spend on. I tried to quit a couple times earlier, but she persuaded me to come back, sometimes sending me naked pictures and once a pic of her shaved pussy saying she had shaved it just for me. We remain in communication.

When Julia was born her father was only 14 and abandoned her. I gather that "daddy issues" are common among SBs. Her mom was not much better; she was 17 and Julia was her third illegitimate child. Julia was raised in poverty. Currently, Julia is attending a community college online trying to learn a trade. She claims she does not trust people and seldom has a boyfriend, though she is pretty, slender, athletic and sexual.

The last time I announced we were quitting she said she was going to cry and that she "loved" me, but I'm sure it was a sugarbaby type of love since we never spent much time together, only met discreetly for sex, had superficial conversations, and she didn't even know my name.

[LookingVa]

she didn't even know my name.Best line ever.

[Bran001]

https://www.seeking.com/member/7eca677b-e12d-4fac-8478-9f0635143967

Met this little treat for a few hours of fun. She's a D1 athlete and has the body to show for it. Insisted on cover but one she showed up at the FC mounted me bare and let me BBFS the entire time. 10/10 would recommend, she's a freaky and eager college gal.My trips to RVA and Williamsburg have been on hold since covid. Too bad for me! I rarely found anyone great in Wmsbrg on SA; surprised more W&M students werent there.

[TheDude1]

All, what is the EXACT brand of prepaid card to use from SA premium access?

[Black Pelican]

One other question is how many of you who are married are posting pictures of yourself on SA? Just curious how safe it is to do that? And if you don't post pictures, how often to you get replies and dates.

Seriously frustrated with STG talent. Everyone has pretty much up'd their rates to like 100 for a QV? Which is ridiculous considering how fat, strung out, or ugly they are.

Thanks for your help!

BP.


All, what is the EXACT brand of prepaid card to use from SA premium access?

[JustLonely]

One other question is how many of you who are married are posting pictures of yourself on SA? Just curious how safe it is to do that? And if you don't post pictures, how often to you get replies and dates.

Seriously frustrated with STG talent. Everyone has pretty much up'd their rates to like 100 for a QV? Which is ridiculous considering how fat, strung out, or ugly they are.

Thanks for your help!

BP.My public pic is in a full helmet sitting on a friend's motorcycle. My private pic shows my face and they don't get until I am pretty show she is legit. Also had one sitting in my friend's car with sunglasses on.

[BookerTNelson]

One other question is how many of you who are married are posting pictures of yourself on SA? Just curious how safe it is to do that? And if you don't post pictures, how often to you get replies and dates.

Seriously frustrated with STG talent. Everyone has pretty much up'd their rates to like 100 for a QV? Which is ridiculous considering how fat, strung out, or ugly they are.

Thanks for your help!

BP.My profile is a photo of a guy that has the same basic frame as me but you can't see his face. That's essentially all I need to get any of them into a conversation to exchange numbers and get things going.

[DoggieFan]

One other question is how many of you who are married are posting pictures of yourself on SA? Just curious how safe it is to do that? And if you don't post pictures, how often to you get replies and dates.

Seriously frustrated with STG talent. Everyone has pretty much up'd their rates to like 100 for a QV? Which is ridiculous considering how fat, strung out, or ugly they are.

Thanks for your help!

BP.My profile pic is Tony Soprano from the chin down. Similar to my age & build & sometimes my personality. LOL.

I don't have a private pic. Anything you post on the Internet is forever, I don't need to risk it. I actually find it makes Babies curious to go to text so I can send them a real pic. Even then, it's one of my with a beard (I'm clean shaven), sunglasses & a.

Red Sox cap.

SA is a ton of work but there are definitely hidden gems to be found. I've been successful in the $200-$400 range. Three at $200, one at $250, one at $400 & the rest, ten at $300. The shortest visit was 2 1/2 hours, two were overnights, one with a gorgeous ex stripper for 20 hours. All my success other than one cockhold girl (her live in BF sat about five feet away looking at his phone the whole time, did a threesome with them too) with a limited menu for $100, has been in NC.

[Scorpio22]

I've been successful in the $120-200 range over the years. 250 is my max and haven't paid that in over a year, 300 is absolute most I ever spent on one girl. I don't feel really anybody is worth over 250 at most, I fucked over 60 girls off SA back in 2017 and that was with my limited budget. Once you hit that many girls frequently you realize it's just not worth it to each his own but it's a lot of guys willing to pay that in turn keeping prices high on some of these girls because they know dudes will pay. I noticed 120 isn't pulling them like it was just 2 years ago, figured the pandemic would have a a lot of them more willing to negotiate but it seems inflation supersedes that even LOL.

[Black Pelican]

Cool. That's helpful fellas. Just need to pull the trigger here shortly. Very disappointed with the lack there of talent on the sites. And the rising costs are just baffling. I feel like there is only one good one out there "Riley" and now she is becoming a Tyrst favorite which scares me a bit.

As always, I am always willing to help out any ladies financially who you all have become acquainted with through SA or by chance. I am a good clean dude.

BP.


My profile pic is Tony Soprano from the chin down. Similar to my age & build & sometimes my personality. LOL.

I don't have a private pic. Anything you post on the Internet is forever, I don't need to risk it. I actually find it makes Babies curious to go to text so I can send them a real pic. Even then, it's one of my with a beard (I'm clean shaven), sunglasses & a.

Red Sox cap.

SA is a ton of work but there are definitely hidden gems to be found. I've been successful in the $200-$400 range. Three at $200, one at $250, one at $400 & the rest, ten at $300. The shortest visit was 2 1/2 hours, two were overnights, one with a gorgeous ex stripper for 20 hours. All my success other than one cockhold girl (her live in BF sat about five feet away looking at his phone the whole time, did a threesome with them too) with a limited menu for $100, has been in NC.

[BookerTNelson]

I've been successful in the $120-200 range over the years. 250 is my max and haven't paid that in over a year, 300 is absolute most I ever spent on one girl. I don't feel really anybody is worth over 250 at most, I fucked over 60 girls off SA back in 2017 and that was with my limited budget. Once you hit that many girls frequently you realize it's just not worth it to each his own but it's a lot of guys willing to pay that in turn keeping prices high on some of these girls because they know dudes will pay. I noticed 120 isn't pulling them like it was just 2 years ago, figured the pandemic would have a a lot of them more willing to negotiate but it seems inflation supersedes that even LOL.My range dips a little lower but still 250 is my absolute max. Most of the time that I have to get to 250 is more of an urgency thing than anything else.

[Snake27]

I've had 6 lasting SB in 5 years of being on the SB sites, plus another 4 that did not last more than one or two dates for various reasons. I tend to only pick excellent girls, so the prices are naturally higher. In the earlier years I spent 200 per date, but lately its varied from 300 to 400. Maybe I'm getting old and lost my touch. But I do think, based on low statistics admittedly, that for the higher dollar amounts the girls are much more eager to keep the relationship going. My last girl (Julia) at 300 was all over me: probably exclusive, sentimental, "loved" me, kissed me all over, let me bareback, etc. In fact she's still patiently trying to recruit me, but we'll see how that plays out. So, the extra money does buy something, I think. Plus I'm a nice guy, so that probably helps. However, periodically I have to give my wallet a break, LOL.

[JustLonely]

This one gave me her number. Haven't called her yet wouldn't discuss details on SA. Looks like a tired cheap hotel pro.

https://www.seeking.com/member/232c085c-49a4-450c-a7a5-071f311c3ba0

[Snake27]

Bad idea to have pics of yourself on an SB site if you want to maintain a reputation in polite society. When I first started out, I found some software that made a blend of 2 pics; I mixed my pic with a famous actor. I liked the result. It was accepted by the SD4 M site but rejected by SA. Next, I lifted from the internet a pic of a dude who looks a bit like me. I found it on the M4 W area of Craigslist in a city 1000's of miles away. To protect his identity I put a block over his eyes. But this backfired once when a girl met me and noticed I was not the guy in the pic. She thought it was dishonest and unethical. And she was right. Some girls do not care, though. In more recent years, I use my own pics but I have some software that adds noise to blur it, plus I put a block over my eyes. After developing trust through texting or talking on the phone, and before actually meeting the girl for the first time, I send the same actual pics without the blurring and blocking. I think it's only fair that the girls know what you look ilke before meeting. Only about 20 girls have seen those pics, hence not much risk.

[ItsAHobby45]

One other question is how many of you who are married are posting pictures of yourself on SA? Just curious how safe it is to do that? And if you don't post pictures, how often to you get replies and dates.

Seriously frustrated with STG talent. Everyone has pretty much up'd their rates to like 100 for a QV? Which is ridiculous considering how fat, strung out, or ugly they are.

Thanks for your help!

BP.My SA picture is a random picture I pulled from the internet of a guy that looks remarkably like me. I have to do this because I work in the restaurant industry and travel the east coast and interact with thousands of servers and have seen more than a few that I recognized on SA. Before I meet a girl from SA I always send them a real picture of myself so that there isn't any confusion. Recently SA suspended my account for using a fake picture and I had to send a copy of my DL so they could verify it was me. Luckily it worked and they reinstated my account.

[RedBaron Daron]

This one gave me her number. Haven't called her yet wouldn't discuss details on SA. Looks like a tired cheap hotel pro.

https://www.seeking.com/member/232c085c-49a4-450c-a7a5-071f311c3ba0If you post a couple pics or Pm them to me I may be able to help.

RBD out.

[Madaboutmax]

Bad idea to have pics of yourself on an SB site if you want to maintain a reputation in polite society. When I first started out, I found some software that made a blend of 2 pics; I mixed my pic with a famous actor. I liked the result. It was accepted by the SD4 M site but rejected by SA. Next, I lifted from the internet a pic of a dude who looks a bit like me. I found it on the M4 W area of Craigslist in a city 1000's of miles away. To protect his identity I put a block over his eyes. But this backfired once when a girl met me and noticed I was not the guy in the pic. She thought it was dishonest and unethical. And she was right. Some girls do not care, though. In more recent years, I use my own pics but I have some software that adds noise to blur it, plus I put a block over my eyes. After developing trust through texting or talking on the phone, and before actually meeting the girl for the first time, I send the same actual pics without the blurring and blocking. I think it's only fair that the girls know what you look ilke before meeting. Only about 20 girls have seen those pics, hence not much risk.I've found that at a certain point the relationship between the allowance and experience has a negative correlation. The girls that expect the most, have actually been the worst experience for me. Entitled, clock watchers, not really into it, rushed, act like they are doing me a favor, etc.

I go for the best looking girl that is actually attracted to me. If she isn't into me and we don't vibe, I'm not really into her regardless of how beautiful she is. Fortunately, I've found literal "10's" that are into me, so when an "8" makes me feel like she is doing me a favor, it's really easy to cut her loose. I would much rather have an "8" that is attracted to me and a freak, than a "10" that acts like she is doing me a favor and is a starfish, but I have to be attracted to her. If she isn't at least an "8", I'm not interested. Less than 5% of the girls on SA are attractive enough to even interest me.

The "10s" will often know they are a "10". They often times become aloof and don't think they should have to work that hard and as a result are a bad lay. They can become jaded and think all men are "Pump and Dumpers" without accepting that they are just a bad lay. They can learn to dislike men and feel justified in their "high ask" because they feel no men will stick around. These are the women I avoid like the plague (or should I say like COVID lol).

[Madaboutmax]

I posted my reply to the wrong post. It was supposed to be in reply to your post about "prices".


I've found that at a certain point the relationship between the allowance and experience has a negative correlation. The girls that expect the most, have actually been the worst experience for me. Entitled, clock watchers, not really into it, rushed, act like they are doing me a favor, etc.

I go for the best looking girl that is actually attracted to me. If she isn't into me and we don't vibe, I'm not really into her regardless of how beautiful she is. Fortunately, I've found literal "10's" that are into me, so when an "8" makes me feel like she is doing me a favor, it's really easy to cut her loose. I would much rather have an "8" that is attracted to me and a freak, than a "10" that acts like she is doing me a favor and is a starfish, but I have to be attracted to her. If she isn't at least an "8", I'm not interested. Less than 5% of the girls on SA are attractive enough to even interest me.

The "10s" will often know they are a "10". They often times become aloof and don't think they should have to work that hard and as a result are a bad lay. They can become jaded and think all men are "Pump and Dumpers" without accepting that they are just a bad lay. They can learn to dislike men and feel justified in their "high ask" because they feel no men will stick around. These are the women I avoid like the plague (or should I say like COVID lol).

[Irate Pirate]

This one gave me her number. Haven't called her yet wouldn't discuss details on SA. Looks like a tired cheap hotel pro

https://www.seeking.com/member/232c085c-49a4-450c-a7a5-071f311c3ba0I've met her for initial recon.

Yes. Tired hotel pro.

Not cheap. She has GPS.

Along with possible demons.

Expecting $+. Claims to have been taken advantage of.

First pic on profile is likely from over a year ago. Last few pics on profile are more accurate / recent.

[SerraAngel]

Just thought I would pop in a see what's new. LOL, looks like not too much. Is everyone laying low due to covid?

[Sircmc17]

I know I am out an about when I'm available and not at work. I'm going in an out of town for work alot so.


Just thought I would pop in a see what's new. LOL, looks like not too much. Is everyone laying low due to covid?

[Ryaharan]

https://www.seeking.com/member/7eca677b-e12d-4fac-8478-9f0635143967

Met this little treat for a few hours of fun. She's a D1 athlete and has the body to show for it. Insisted on cover but one she showed up at the FC mounted me bare and let me BBFS the entire time. 10/10 would recommend, she's a freaky and eager college gal.Was in the process of setting up a date with her but she's gone silent recently. Sounds like worth following up. Freaky in what way? And is she down for Greek?

[Ryaharan]

https://www.seeking.com/member/7eca677b-e12d-4fac-8478-9f0635143967

Met this little treat for a few hours of fun. She's a D1 athlete and has the body to show for it. Insisted on cover but one she showed up at the FC mounted me bare and let me BBFS the entire time. 10/10 would recommend, she's a freaky and eager college gal.I was in the process of setting up a 'date' with her. She's gone quiet the last couple of weeks, but sounds like it may be worth following up on. Freaky in what way? And was she down for Greek?

[BumbaCloth]

Anyone seen her?

https://www.seeking.com/member/5136719e-b6ec-4869-911c-ea6aeb996557

[FoSho757]

Anybody have any info here or experience with her?

[Fyre757]

Trying to find some info. We have been chatting a bit but am trying to figure out if she is a good time and DTF.

https://www.seeking.com/member/bf5129f4-0a9f-43f8-86aa-de9815e836f8

[FoSho757]

Anybody have any info here or experience with her?Sorry, guys. Forgot the profile link, https://www.seeking.com/member/919fb55b-29ef-42e7-ae19-f3321089d56a.

[BookerTNelson]

Trying to find some info. We have been chatting a bit but am trying to figure out if she is a good time and DTF.

https://www.seeking.com/member/bf5129f4-0a9f-43f8-86aa-de9815e836f8Definitely DTF without a M&G. Decent time.

[Fyre757]

Definitely DTF without a M&G. Decent time.It seems she is down for BBFS is there any truth to that?

[RavensFan2012]

Don't waste your time with her she's online only.

[BumbaCloth]

Any info her? She agreed to meet $$. 5 but number is from Indiana.

[Snake27]

Here's a follow-up about this SB, let me call her Julia for reference.....I've continued with my SB (Julia), albeit at a lower pace that matches my budget. Whenever I stop seeing her, she reaches out to me. "Daddy, I miss you" or "Daddy I need you. " The messages are calm and simple, not desperate.

We've remained anonymous. I've experimented with sharing my identity with SBs, thinking they might like me better. It's hard to generalize, but I think that they prefer anonymity because it means no-strings-attached. It's also better for me because I don't think much about her. I like Julia, but it's hard to take someone seriously if they don't care who you are and don't spend much time with you. She says she "loves" me, but I think that just means she wants to continue our short visits for $300.

A snapshot of her cheerful personality: Coming out of the shower after sex, she waltzes up to me and clasps my face in two hands, brings her face close, presses her nose against mine, smiling and laughing and exclaims "I like your face!" Then spins away like a bird taking flight.

[Entei]

God dammit that's awesome. I been in and out of the hobby but miss connections like this. Just got out of a nice arrangement I had with a gal from one of the local AMPs. She'd do things like this and it was a nice touch. Looks like I got to dabble in this side of the hobby to find something like that again.


A snapshot of her cheerful personality: Coming out of the shower after sex, she waltzes up to me and clasps my face in two hands, brings her face close, presses her nose against mine, smiling and laughing and exclaims "I like your face!" Then spins away like a bird taking flight.

[NotAgainVa]

Sorry, guys. Forgot the profile link, https://www.seeking.com/member/919fb55b-29ef-42e7-ae19-f3321089d56a.Have some feedback for you. Took the plunge and met Felicia. The positives. She is way more attractive then her photos and has a smoking hot body. The negatives. She has not interest in sex. Only interest in arrangements for arm candy dates. I wound up blocking her as she became annoying asking for platonic dates. Hope this helps.

[RavensFan2012]

This one tried the I'm leaving for NY tomorrow and have no money so would you please pay me to meet me for a drink scam.

[BumbaCloth]

No sugars or utr in holiday need this season?

[VBMax]

Is SA worth the work? And, how married men stay anonymous? Thanks!

[Snake27]

Is SA worth the work? And, how married men stay anonymous? Thanks!SA is a LOT of work for an "ordinary" guy like me. Most conversations go nowhere. Lots of rejection, disappointment, not showing up to appointments, etc. I know there are some guys who report here and on the other SB threads about how easy it is for them. That ease would depend on you and what qualities you have. It always helps to be rich and handsome, LOL. Generally, the girl has to actually like you somewhat. But once you find your match, you can't compare it to regular escorts. Imagine a fresh, clean college girl who is enthusiastic and responds sexually.

You can see on the Richmond SB thread a lot of reports and discussion about how to stay anonymous and be discrete. Things like not using your real picture on SA, using a Vanilla credit card, etc. Most girls expect you to stay anonymous, I think. I believe they like it because it means you're not trying to be their boyfriend.

I've noticed that on the USASG, Escorts are still the more popular mode. From a casual counting of posts, it seems to be 30 to 40% of posts are about Escorts, followed second by Massage. These are by far the easier routes. SB reports are still relatively few because it is a lot of work and also quite expensive.

Still going strong with my SB named Julia.

[VBMax]

Thank you sir. Most helpful!


SA is a LOT of work for an "ordinary" guy like me. Most conversations go nowhere. Lots of rejection, disappointment, not showing up to appointments, etc. I know there are some guys who report here and on the other SB threads about how easy it is for them. That ease would depend on you and what qualities you have. It always helps to be rich and handsome, LOL. Generally, the girl has to actually like you somewhat. But once you find your match, you can't compare it to regular escorts. Imagine a fresh, clean college girl who is enthusiastic and responds sexually.

You can see on the Richmond SB thread a lot of reports and discussion about how to stay anonymous and be discrete. Things like not using your real picture on SA, using a Vanilla credit card, etc. Most girls expect you to stay anonymous, I think. I believe they like it because it means you're not trying to be their boyfriend.

I've noticed that on the USASG, Escorts are still the more popular mode. From a casual counting of posts, it seems to be 30 to 40% of posts are about Escorts, followed second by Massage. These are by far the easier routes. SB reports are still relatively few because it is a lot of work and also quite expensive.

Still going strong with my SB named Julia..

[BookerTNelson]

Is SA worth the work? And, how married men stay anonymous? Thanks!IMO, it's not much work. I think the main thing is to figure out what kind of experience you want with the chick. Do you just wan to slam a hole or do you want something that's more intimate / GFE type? Do you want to train a fresh young ****?

All of that really determines if SA is worth it or not. For me, it's an amazing deal but for others? It's too much of a hassle or they struggle to find the experience they want.

[BigWhite86]

Looking for any info on this one. PM is fine.

https://www.seeking.com/member/684df6e8-19f2-45ab-95b3-1fe96e4337e8

Thanks / BW.

[BumbaCloth]

Anyone seen these two?

EnvyLeilani.

https://www.seeking.com/member/83f5b0f3-06e6-4e5d-b7e9-81c53b160985

Jmacteam.

https://www.seeking.com/member/d427ea44-c1b4-40ee-b992-ec06b6b1c432

[Scorpio22]

Anyone seen these two?

EnvyLeilani.

https://www.seeking.com/member/83f5b0f3-06e6-4e5d-b7e9-81c53b160985

Jmacteam.

https://www.seeking.com/member/d427ea44-c1b4-40ee-b992-ec06b6b1c432Envy is legit I had a great time with her.

[BumbaCloth]

Any info on her?

https://www.seeking.com/member/0ef35bfa-66b9-478b-8c77-2db6d0bcc4d6

[Scorpio22]

Any info on her?

https://www.seeking.com/member/0ef35bfa-66b9-478b-8c77-2db6d0bcc4d6Same as envy basically, I haven't had chance yet to pull trigger but I know someone who has already. Just make contact and put your bid in. She gives off pro vibes to me.

[RavensFan2012]

Same as envy basically, I haven't had chance yet to pull trigger but I know someone who has already. Just make contact and put your bid in. She gives off pro vibes to me.I'll pass on any girl that wants me to pay for their uber.

[RavensFan2012]

This ones profile says she's bisexual and down for anything so I'm thinking this is promising. I reach out and she says no intimacy. Huh? I tell her she might want to add platonic and remove the bisexual and down for anything comment. Good grief.

[RavensFan2012]

Sugarpophun buy my vid and then I'll meet.

Claireb24 time waster and when we were finally going to meet she said I needed to cash app her Uber money. Wouldn't let me order Uber.

Knights123 platonic.

Xopaigexoxo offered 5 and she said was worth way more than that.

[RavensFan2012]

I've come to the conclusion that there's no point reporting on the scammers, online only and platonic girls because that's the whole f ing site these days. I'm done with this crap.

[Passport4]

Has anyone seen SamanthaPearl on SA? Message me if you have and do not want to post to the group.

https://www.seeking.com/member/a849d496-3917-412f-8837-c349a6d77bbb

[AtItAgain11]

Anyone ever see Aribear93? If so PM if you don't mind.

https://www.seeking.com/member/8392c520-57b8-4ab3-97b4-d75dedf189b7

[Madaboutmax]

This one seems like a tough nut to crack. I've been going back and forth with her for a while. She seems interested one day then is distant the next. I'm not sure of she is real or serious.

Any intel?

https://www.seeking.com/member/6741902e-e137-471c-94c8-7ba4a18e2b32

A few others that don't seem serious. They are regularly active, communicatingoccasionally, but it never goes anywhere. Maybe it's just me. Lol

https://www.seeking.com/member/475cd783-2af5-4a16-bdc6-2f06dab6e2b9

https://www.seeking.com/member/706e0191-3b13-422d-9be9-b35f4c99ec54


https://www.seeking.com/member/54effd7a-86aa-4d63-8aaa-b7f626441838

https://www.seeking.com/member/319d85de-feef-43c9-a282-90948f932f2c

https://www.seeking.com/member/bfad3dd9-2daf-4564-9811-dc8a92666d73

https://www.seeking.com/member/a1924b1d-87bd-4a89-9682-4f4d94bd1321

https://www.seeking.com/member/4c0c8398-6508-448f-bd1d-3d11fc41c78c

https://www.seeking.com/member/fc931575-bb5f-46ad-aac2-956b9e588041

https://www.seeking.com/member/041e67be-983b-43d3-b20e-22d9e8f54e98

This one was a great run while it lasted for almost 4 months. Definite girlfriend type. Likes to be taken out, shown off and is very sweet, but is looking for a rich boyfriend. I wish I was a few years younger!! Lol

https://www.seeking.com/member/01fef4f0-ec65-4bbc-b509-f87f1862352e

[Scorpio22]

This one seems like a tough nut to crack. I've been going back and forth with her for a while. She seems interested one day then is distant the next. I'm not sure of she is real or serious.

Any intel?

https://www.seeking.com/member/6741902e-e137-471c-94c8-7ba4a18e2b32

A few others that don't seem serious. They are regularly active, communicatingoccasionally, but it never goes anywhere. Maybe it's just me. Lol.I've talked to two on that list and actually met with one and both were DTF I just wasn't trying to pay the 2-400 they were asking for. So judging by this list I'm assuming white, Latina, Asian women are a lost cause for you as well? I thought my ratio would be 50/50 with an occasional Asian, and Latina when I first got on SA in 2016. I have only hit one white girl who was decent and she asked for 200 and wouldn't even do BJ. She was a nice girl with a great body and nice ass and I fucked her cause I was starved for something different but I'm not wasting my money on her again if she won't suck dick smh.

Is no one out here having success with the non black women on the site? I look at other sugar baby threads and it seems more balanced, I thought our area would at least have a decent spilt between white and black women, I haven't been able to hit one Asian, and just two Latinas. Pinkbandit seems to be the resident Latina DTF but she wants crazy money and after two attempts won't even respond to me anymore LOL. Terrible.

State of SA has gone down in general and instead of covid making them more hard up for cash everyone claiming to be scared to meetup and seeking online only. I still pull something new every time I sign up but it's the same type of chicks all the time.

[Madaboutmax]

I've talked to two on that list and actually met with one and both were DTF I just wasn't trying to pay the 2-400 they were asking for. So judging by this list I'm assuming white, Latina, Asian women are a lost cause for you as well? I thought my ratio would be 50/50 with an occasional Asian, and Latina when I first got on SA in 2016. I have only hit one white girl who was decent and she asked for 200 and wouldn't even do BJ. She was a nice girl with a great body and nice ass and I fucked her cause I was starved for something different but I'm not wasting my money on her again if she won't suck dick smh.

Is no one out here having success with the non black women on the site? I look at other sugar baby threads and it seems more balanced, I thought our area would at least have a decent spilt between white and black women, I haven't been able to hit one Asian, and just two Latinas. Pinkbandit seems to be the resident Latina DTF but she wants crazy money and after two attempts won't even respond to me anymore LOL. Terrible.

State of SA has gone down in general and instead of covid making them more hard up for cash everyone claiming to be scared to meetup and seeking online only. I still pull something new every time I sign up but it's the same type of chicks all the time.I've had good success with Black, Latina and Mixed women, but not with white women. Honestly, I find very few white women on SA that are even worth pursuing. The few that are don't seem serious and want platonic or online only. The few Asians in the area have serious GPS.

[Scorpio22]

I've had good success with Black, Latina and Mixed women, but not with white women. Honestly, I find very few white women on SA that are even worth pursuing. The few that are don't seem serious and want platonic or online only. The few Asians in the area have serious GPS.What's your theory on why this is? I'm curious from your perspective. I have my own views on it. Wondering if it matches up with mine from someone in another demographic.

[GAGuy2020]

Modern feedback. Worth it? How much access do you get at free sign up? How many local women? How much is a typical hook up? Does it take a ton of time?

[RavensFan2012]

What's your theory on why this is? I'm curious from your perspective. I have my own views on it. Wondering if it matches up with mine from someone in another demographic.Bottom line a white girl is typically going to run you more than an AA or Latina. You're not going to get any decent white girl for less than a and then above average ones usually run 4.

[Scorpio22]

Bottom line a white girl is typically going to run you more than an AA or Latina. You're not going to get any decent white girl for less than a and then above average ones usually run 4.Thing is they are doing absolutely zero to warrant they're supposed "worth" above other females. Pussy is pussy and I'm trying understand why them and the Asian sugarbaby's not giving it up at least in our area when that's what were all after. I'm just trying come up on info from anyone having success so I know who to zero in on. If we share more info like they do in Richmond we all can benefit.

[RavensFan2012]

Thing is they are doing absolutely zero to warrant they're supposed "worth" above other females. Pussy is pussy and I'm trying understand why them and the Asian sugarbaby's not giving it up at least in our area when that's what were all after. I'm just trying come up on info from anyone having success so I know who to zero in on. If we share more info like they do in Richmond we all can benefit.I have had a lot of success with white girls over the 5 years I've been on the site, I'm almost ashamed to admit I dont actually even remember half of them. I've never scored with an Asian, they either ignore me or are only interested in platonic. I've probably had about 10 Latinas which is weird because I'm really into them as well. Probably about 6 or 7 AA as well but I don't pursue very often. The thing with white girls is anyone worth seeing a 2nd time will usually run me 4 or 5. Below 3 is almost always a 1 time hit. I'm a big guy but I'm nice and funny and pay well. Are you not getting success at all or are they just rejecting your offer?

[Scorpio22]

I have had a lot of success with white girls over the 5 years I've been on the site, I'm almost ashamed to admit I dont actually even remember half of them. I've never scored with an Asian, they either ignore me or are only interested in platonic. I've probably had about 10 Latinas which is weird because I'm really into them as well. Probably about 6 or 7 AA as well but I don't pursue very often. The thing with white girls is anyone worth seeing a 2nd time will usually run me 4 or 5. Below 3 is almost always a 1 time hit. I'm a big guy but I'm nice and funny and pay well. Are you not getting success at all or are they just rejecting your offer?95% percent of them don't even respond, the other 5% percent are usually low quality escort types that are just not appealing. I'm simply going to chalk that up to me being black. I look for the "All Ethnicties" tag when searching white women and I rarely see it, pretty much all AA women and most other non white have it so take that for what you will. I can get AA women from the cute college chick all the way to horny MILF. I thought SA would give me a nice balance of vanilla and chocolate pussy with the young freaky white girls all the way up to the horny milfs that like bbc LOL. I've run across none that will even respond to me.

[GAGuy2020]

Is there a feedback on the SB girls? Who does not meet up, who over charges, who is not girl in pics, etc.

[JDeller]

I am a 50's white guy in decent shape and play in Massachusetts. Black girls have been my best experience on SA and elsewhere. I would say 50% of black girls respond to my messages and about 10% I make it to the FC and they are hot and almost without exception very good time. Latinas respond about 20% of the time and maybe 2% I make it to the FC and they are decent but not as hot as the black girls. The white girls respond about 10% of the time and about 0. 50% I make it to the FC and they are usually not that hot, a bit timid but skill level is decent. I don't even bother with Asians. So that has been my experience. Frankly, it really is only the black girls that keep me motivated hobbying. The white escorts are good but there is a higher percentage of druggie than with others. Obviously this is not a scientific study. Just my experience.


95% percent of them don't even respond, the other 5% percent are usually low quality escort types that are just not appealing. I'm simply going to chalk that up to me being black. I look for the "All Ethnicties" tag when searching white women and I rarely see it, pretty much all AA women and most other non white have it so take that for what you will. I can get AA women from the cute college chick all the way to horny MILF. I thought SA would give me a nice balance of vanilla and chocolate pussy with the young freaky white girls all the way up to the horny milfs that like bbc LOL. I've run across none that will even respond to me.

[BumbaCloth]

I think location plays a part in it. I used to lived in Hampton Roads now I'm in New York. The GPS for New York SBs are usually the Indian & Middle Eastern girls sometimes the Spanish girl especially Puerto Ricans, Dominicans, & Colombians. Most the white girls up here probably seen "Pretty Woman" one too many times. When I'm in VA the usually black girls are the ones that want to meet compared to other females.

[Madaboutmax]

I really don't find very many attractive White girls on SA that aren't Platonic, OnlineOnly or Pros. The only non-pro White girls that are willing to actually meet, just arent that attractive. But I can find Black, Mixed and Latina non-pro girls that are solid 9's and dtf.

It probably helps that I prefer Black women anyway. Even in strip clubs, I find very few of the White dancers as attractive as the best Black, Mixed or Latina girls. I like sim, fit women with nice sleek curves. It's hard for me to find white women that are not either stick thin with no curves or too "curvy" for my taste.


Thing is they are doing absolutely zero to warrant they're supposed "worth" above other females. Pussy is pussy and I'm trying understand why them and the Asian sugarbaby's not giving it up at least in our area when that's what were all after. I'm just trying come up on info from anyone having success so I know who to zero in on. If we share more info like they do in Richmond we all can benefit.

[GAGuy2020]

My buddy checked out the SD life with some extra play money, here is his feedback.

Most of these begging wastes of time are pretty girls that wondered in from OnlyFans just to flirt money out of you. Great if you are alone and want attention but you get nothing back.

Some might send a few sexy pics, some might meet in public only for coffee, and some will talk your ear off online but don't waste your money. They tease but don't put out. Its a game and wastes time! Good luck digging past them for results.

Too many scammer or beggars so watch out. No, I was not scammed but I am over these tricks and scammers to the point I am pissed at them. I hate to waste time, lets be honest and trade.

Has my buddy hooked up? Yes, a few times, but the quality is what he was getting on dating sites at best. Broken single moms and slightly overweight girl next door you would not want to date for red flag reasons. He pulled in better on dating sites for the work these girls take to get results.

There a few real escorts girls mixed in but they are not quality and they feel they can ask more just being in SD life. That $150 trashy escort thinks she can ask $200-300.

You might meet new faces but it takes too much work and they don't host most of the time so be ready for a room or be single.

There is girls that are not on escort sites but will sleep with you for cash. Average "non-escort" that will sleep with you girl thinks they are $300-500 and again you host. Quality is not there.

Can you hook up with top level girls? I'm sure but. If you can find one that is not a scam, it will take time and maybe hundreds to thousands.

Another thing that makes him sick is the idiots who think this is a real dating site and they want to "not sleep on the first date" to feel better then want to meet a husband and date like normal. "Online only" or "platonic only" girls are nothing but wastes of time so avoid them.

Bottom line. You can meet new people, some low quality people hook up, and the hot ones will only drain your wallet for no better pussy then the low quality ones. Love the quote "pussy is pussy" so unless you want to waste money might be better to hold off. In defense so you don't think he is just bitching, it is nice to meet up with someone 1/2 your age or new faces but where you can get a girl for $100-200 on escort sites you will spend about $300-600 each for about the same thing.

[Blak Gekko]

Aribear is an absolute definite "must see" if you have not already connected!

Happy Holidays BG!


Anyone ever see Aribear93? If so PM if you don't mind.

https://www.seeking.com/member/8392c520-57b8-4ab3-97b4-d75dedf189b7

[Blak Gekko]

TattedNPierced is the real deal! It may take a little time and work but definitely worth it. The hunt is what it's all about sometimes LOL!

Cheers! BG.


Any info on her?

https://www.seeking.com/member/0ef35bfa-66b9-478b-8c77-2db6d0bcc4d6

[TopGun9]

Aribear is an absolute definite "must see" if you have not already connected!

Happy Holidays BG!That's a fine piece of ass.

Looks like you have come out of the pandemic to play. LOL.

[TopGun9]

I really don't find very many attractive White girls on SA that aren't Platonic, OnlineOnly or Pros. The only non-pro White girls that are willing to actually meet, just arent that attractive. But I can find Black, Mixed and Latina non-pro girls that are solid 9's and dtf.

It probably helps that I prefer Black women anyway. Even in strip clubs, I find very few of the White dancers as attractive as the best Black, Mixed or Latina girls. I like sim, fit women with nice sleek curves. It's hard for me to find white women that are not either stick thin with no curves or too "curvy" for my taste.In agreement.

In all my years, I've fucked black girls the most. A few white and a few latina, and exactly ONE asian.

I find black girls easier to take to the FC, DTF, and often do not come with GPS. I too prefer slim, petite, and athletic black girls.

[TopGun9]

I am starting to find and less and less success with SA.

Love the old days of Craiglist before they shut it down. Some of the best and cheapest pussies I'd ever find were from the Craiglist days.

Curious, where else do you guys hunt besides SA?

Tinder, Bumble, etc. ?

[Blak Gekko]

TG9,

I dibble and dabble here and there during the pandemic. LOL!


That's a fine piece of ass.

Looks like you have come out of the pandemic to play. LOL.

[Blak Gekko]

https://www.seeking.com/member/f739bebc-8ab6-4d51-9018-04fbcd97493f

Simply Awesome! BG sends.

[Blak Gekko]

https://www.seeking.com/member/0f358114-d73e-4e8e-98cd-bbc35330c5ef

BG approves!

[Espo123]

https://www.seeking.com/member/f739bebc-8ab6-4d51-9018-04fbcd97493f

Simply Awesome! BG sends.Still at it, I see? Haha, been a while.

[Blak Gekko]

Espo,

Careful and selective during the pandemic. LOL! I'm still in the shadows.


Still at it, I see? Haha, been a while.

[Masheen]

TattedNPierced is the real deal! It may take a little time and work but definitely worth it. The hunt is what it's all about sometimes LOL!

Cheers! BG.She contacted me a few weeks ago and was open to an arrangement. I offered a meet and greet over lunch or supper to get a feel for one another, but her discretion nixed that. Two franks for 1-2 hours. I thought to myself, is it 1 or 2 hours for that much LOL? A bit high without knowing more. Being you've met her, got any details you care to share here or pm me? Thanks much!

[RavensFan2012]

Aribear is an absolute definite "must see" if you have not already connected!

Happy Holidays BG!Had a date set up with her today then she asked me if I had cash app. Bye.

[Blak Gekko]

I will PM you offline you discuss my brother.


She contacted me a few weeks ago and was open to an arrangement. I offered a meet and greet over lunch or supper to get a feel for one another, but her discretion nixed that. Two franks for 1-2 hours. I thought to myself, is it 1 or 2 hours for that much LOL? A bit high without knowing more. Being you've met her, got any details you care to share here or pm me? Thanks much!

[Blak Gekko]

RavensFan,

Never had that come up the times we met and she came to the peninsula. I have a free who recently saw her and absolutely no mention of cash app. Try again but be firm that gift is presented at time of meeting.

BG.


Had a date set up with her today then she asked me if I had cash app. Bye.

[August23]

Anyone have any info on this one??

https://www.seeking.com/member/6d99cd8f-d48a-4018-8bd5-f0b69b8f15c0

[RavensFan2012]

Anyone have any info on this one??

https://www.seeking.com/member/6d99cd8f-d48a-4018-8bd5-f0b69b8f15c0Never reached out but she's 18, attractive and the English is off so my bet is she's a 47 yr old dude in Latvia.

[RavensFan2012]

RavensFan,

Never had that come up the times we met and she came to the peninsula. I have a free who recently saw her and absolutely no mention of cash app. Try again but be firm that gift is presented at time of meeting.

BG.I thought it was odd too. After she asked me if I had cash app I said when someone asks me that it's usually followed by "I've been scammed before so I'm going to need you to send half in advance. " She was not a fan of my response LOL and called me rude so I blocked her.

[Blak Gekko]

LOL! I guess maybe she was having a bad day. LOL.


I thought it was odd too. After she asked me if I had cash app I said when someone asks me that it's usually followed by "I've been scammed before so I'm going to need you to send half in advance. " She was not a fan of my response LOL and called me rude so I blocked her.

[NotAgainVa]

I've been using SA with a decent success rate for the last two months. There are a lot of scammers out there and you have to keep your wits about you. I'll start posting the good & the bad shortly. Been contacting someone out of my area and she traveled to Va Beach to get way for the weekend. The dream went something like this.

Met her at a decent hotel. To be honest I dressed decently, but she was dressed to the nines. Immaculate. Met her in the lobby and for her age she looked & smelled 100% fantastic. Very, very in good physical shape. Went up to her room, talked for a while. Had a few drinks and the rest was a total blur. Wow. We fucked for at least 2 hours. Several breaks and smokes on the balcony. Ended with me jerking off over her face. Amazing! Activities were, CFS, BBBJ, BBFS and more. A total wild ride. Total cool gal and decent person.

https://www.seeking.com/member/3eaa4180-addf-46fc-848d-a03e03bfdbba

[Blak Gekko]

Has anyone else here been successful in seeing either of these two young ladies? I know of one monger that has seen them both, but for some reason I can get digits and have decent conversations with both, but when I think I've sealed the deal they go dark on the actual day of arranged meeting. They have been on the site regularly so they are not newbies.

BG.

[Ohjedi]

Has anyone else here been successful in seeing either of these two young ladies? I know of one monger that has seen them both, but for some reason I can get digits and have decent conversations with both, but when I think I've sealed the deal they go dark on the actual day of arranged meeting. They have been on the site regularly so they are not newbies.

BG.I've seen Pooh about 3 times the last time about 2 years ago. The first meeting we met in the Kmart parking lot to chat for a sec. She agreed to meet me at the motel across from the parking lot. She was following me to the motel when all of a sudden she decided she didn't want to go through with it and left. I contacted her later in the week and was able to get her to the FC. She is a little uptight and doesn't really seem to get into the session.

[GAGuy2020]

So finally found quality but boy do you pay for it. Cute 20 ish Hispanic girl that knows how to push the good buttons and is not crazy. She asks for a hotel and 3 for allowance so 4 per visit is wild and I don't see sustainable but a nice treat.

Also found a late 30's white girl that follows instructions well at about 2 but has a bit of crazy. Crazy single moms all over. LOL.

The messed up part is the stupid Instagram model wannabes that think they can just do online only begging for money like hobos. 1/2 are married and even seen fake accounts so online only girls could be dudes playing you. Meet or delete!

Then watch out for them chain smoking trailer park girls thinking they are worth 3 or more. Dirty and plays games. Don't do more than 2, you can find better for that much or a little more.

Quality searching takes time and money. Overall not worth it but meeting 20's and non-white girls was nice because many are hard to find in quality on escort sites. But the site proves all women are escorts for the right money. LOL!

[Espo123]

Met with this one over the weekend. Just got to play your game smart and keep it cool. After about one night of talking to her, got her to come over and have an amazing time with her. She is a top performer in my book. From the eye contact to the dirty talking.

BBBJ, to riding to Mish to doggy back to BBBJ then finishing off in Mish, putting her legs all over the place and hitting it from different angles. After alot of pounding she wanted the CIM.

After that we just laid down and talked for a while that we didn't even know how much time passed.

All in all she's a chill girl, and a pleaser.

Thanks BG

[Blak Gekko]

Nice report. Glad you enjoyed she's an absolute dynamo!


Met with this one over the weekend. Just got to play your game smart and keep it cool. After about one night of talking to her, got her to come over and have an amazing time with her. She is a top performer in my book. From the eye contact to the dirty talking.

BBBJ, to riding to Mish to doggy back to BBBJ then finishing off in Mish, putting her legs all over the place and hitting it from different angles. After alot of pounding she wanted the CIM.

After that we just laid down and talked for a while that we didn't even know how much time passed.

All in all she's a chill girl, and a pleaser.

Thanks BG

[Unassuming2018]

Guess I'll add in my 2 bits on her, sounds like she is becoming the new Honey (long time bowl peeps will remember her). I have to second the opinions so far. She is ver chill, cool to hang with. She will sling some sob stories from time to time, so be ready for that. Great body, though her chest looks bigger in her pics than it is in real life. Not complaining, just giving info. We chatted via the site, then text, then we got together. Had some drinks, then onto fun. As mentioned, she is good in bed, no doubt. I've seen her 3 times over the last couple of months. I highly recommend as well. LOL, get your turn in before the next guy.

[Blak Gekko]

LOL that's funny you mentioned Honey. I just saw her "rebranded on SA under the name Tammie Fae" LOL. Yes Ari is loads of fun and is now becoming a big hit on the scene.


Guess I'll add in my 2 bits on her, sounds like she is becoming the new Honey (long time bowl peeps will remember her). I have to second the opinions so far. She is ver chill, cool to hang with. She will sling some sob stories from time to time, so be ready for that. Great body, though her chest looks bigger in her pics than it is in real life. Not complaining, just giving info. We chatted via the site, then text, then we got together. Had some drinks, then onto fun. As mentioned, she is good in bed, no doubt. I've seen her 3 times over the last couple of months. I highly recommend as well. LOL, get your turn in before the next guy.

[Blak Gekko]

OhJedi,

Thanks for the info. I was almost certain someone else has seen her as much as she posts. I'm supposed to finally see her this weekend but I'm not holding my breath. LOL! I've had so many meetings set with her only to see her go dark on the day of the meet. Maybe 2021 will be my lucky year LOL!


I've seen Pooh about 3 times the last time about 2 years ago. The first meeting we met in the Kmart parking lot to chat for a sec. She agreed to meet me at the motel across from the parking lot. She was following me to the motel when all of a sudden she decided she didn't want to go through with it and left. I contacted her later in the week and was able to get her to the FC. She is a little uptight and doesn't really seem to get into the session.

[GAGuy2020]

Believe in quality but don't reward trashy brats. Trashy is not always a look but an attitude. Some of these mid rate want to be models and porn stars think they are worth 400-600 an hour. Don't feed in to the hype by paying that. P really is P, a pretty face makes it no better. These girls should get more than escorts mainly because most don't run on a clock system but 200-300 per meeting for an average girl should be market value. Hooking up with the hottest girl you had the chance to buy time with is not the best sex, especially when you can get 2 that actually want to please you for that price. The thirsty girls work harder and also more often appreciate your help / time if you build a connection. Most 400+ per visit girls are vanilla sex anyway and too entitled to put in effort. Don't be a wallet for them to drain, this is a 2 way street.

Also I can't stress enough. Don't pre-pay any deposit or pay for pictures. The online only ones or ones collecting deposits have fancy tricks but many are just scammers with some even being guys with stolen pictures. Don't pay unless you meet but also don't scam the girls or not pay them, that hurts you and others. The market should be fair and we can help it stay in control. Pay for worth not demands. Also if you just want to talk without physical attention, go to a strip club because they can be hotter than SA girls and they are bored at work so thirsty for attention so will flirt with you all day. Try to avoid "travel buddy" girls and "coffee only" girls, you might be able to flirt some in to more but most are married girls begging or wastes of time / money.

Also as others said, asian girls in this area are rare or money pits. I'll update if I see one that is real but not looking good. I've done good not to be scammed so take this as proven advise not a victim being salty. LOL!

[GAGuy2020]

There is a new rush of fake profiles! Don't buy pics or pre-pay for visits. They are guys with stolen pics but a few are girls that will promise your the world but never meet in person, don't pay for free porn LOL. You can pick it up late in conversation but they start like normal. They always agree to meet, then suddenly demand money for pics first or $100 to 1/2 up front. Watch for the red flags of "too hot asking for too little", bad English, pushing nudes before being asked, and messing up locations. Be safe and report the fakes! Have not fallen for a scam yet so again its good advise not bitching, .

On the good news side, I have met some new faces and some quality but it takes work. Its about 5 fakes for every 1 real. Again no better than dating sites or hook up sites, but still better than average escort. Few more and it might justify the long term price. LOL!

[BumbaCloth]

AshleyKreme69.

Her profiles says "book for private parties".

https://www.seeking.com/member/e47a73b3-3ae3-49ee-a54b-549763f616b6

[GAGuy2020]

My buddy met a few more. Hot body butter face white girl but no head game. Another girl with a big rack white girl but boy did the P stink bad, dirty. 150-200 each, control the market gentleman and don't let them demand 200-300.

Only girl I justified at 300, constantly calls me daddy, loves to talk, and cuddles after without clock watching. Adds up but quality.

Nwt just watch out for scammers demand money before meeting and the "let's talk for a week first". Some of these fools think we are dating or what a husband. Red flags!

The funny part is the "I'm not an escort" girl justify the quote wanting no sex on the first date or to talk for a week, or give them money. LOL! I respect women who fuck on the first date because they aren't game. The waiting ones thinks some how it's less dangerous or less slutty, idiots!

[ItsAHobby45]

My buddy met a few more. Hot body butter face white girl but no head game. Another girl with a big rack white girl but boy did the P stink bad, dirty. 150-200 each, control the market gentleman and don't let them demand 200-300.

Only girl I justified at 300, constantly calls me daddy, loves to talk, and cuddles after without clock watching. Adds up but quality.

Nwt just watch out for scammers demand money before meeting and the "let's talk for a week first". Some of these fools think we are dating or what a husband. Red flags!

The funny part is the "I'm not an escort" girl justify the quote wanting no sex on the first date or to talk for a week, or give them money. LOL! I respect women who fuck on the first date because they aren't game. The waiting ones thinks some how it's less dangerous or less slutty, idiots!Sounds like your buddy needs to learn to pick better quality girls. Some of the hottest girls I fucked from seeking wanted to get to know me a little before meeting at the FC. I'm my experience, if a girl is open to meeting within 24 hours then she's more of an escort or pro type than a nice clean low mileage sugar baby.

[RavensFan2012]

Sounds like your buddy needs to learn to pick better quality girls. Some of the hottest girls I fucked from seeking wanted to get to know me a little before meeting at the FC. I'm my experience, if a girl is open to meeting within 24 hours then she's more of an escort or pro type than a nice clean low mileage sugar baby.Agree. Of the 10 hottest SB's I've ever had not a single one of them went straight to the FC. Had a M&G with all of them. And.

Like I've mentioned before, if you want quality $200-$300 ain't going to do it.

[GAGuy2020]

The problem is the more pretty girls don't want to just meet in private but my buddy does not have time to "date" girls for days to get results or just give them money for flirting / coffee / meals or to do games so they don't feel like ******. LOL!

Too many scammers / fakes, girls that flirt but don't do more or girls trying to feel good by not sleeping on the first date. My buddy found plenty of girls with everything on the table day 1. Go for the girls hotter than standard escorts but not too hot where you loose power in discussions.

No girl is worth over 300 or 400 for a single date. You can date if you want but these are broke girls and gold diggers so don't catch feelings. This is a pampering each other site. Waste what you want or play long game but time has more value to my friend.

Also a reminder curb the scammers and never prepay or send a deposit.


Sounds like your buddy needs to learn to pick better quality girls. Some of the hottest girls I fucked from seeking wanted to get to know me a little before meeting at the FC. I'm my experience, if a girl is open to meeting within 24 hours then she's more of an escort or pro type than a nice clean low mileage sugar baby.

[Johnny 5]

The problem is the more pretty girls don't want to just meet in private but my buddy does not have time to "date" girls for days to get results or just give them money for flirting / coffee / meals or to do games so they don't feel like ******. LOL!

Too many scammers / fakes, girls that flirt but don't do more or girls trying to feel good by not sleeping on the first date. My buddy found plenty of girls with everything on the table day 1. Go for the girls hotter than standard escorts but not too hot where you loose power in discussions.

No girl is worth over 300 or 400 for a single date. You can date if you want but these are broke girls and gold diggers so don't catch feelings. This is a pampering each other site. Waste what you want or play long game but time has more value to my friend.

Also a reminder curb the scammers and never prepay or send a deposit.Really, it just sounds like the bowl isn't the right place for you. Or your friend, whoever.

Also, it's not at all true that "no girl is worth over 300 or 400 for a single date". I like a good value as much as anybody, but come on.

[Scorpio22]

The problem is the more pretty girls don't want to just meet in private but my buddy does not have time to "date" girls for days to get results or just give them money for flirting / coffee / meals or to do games so they don't feel like ******. LOL!

Too many scammers / fakes, girls that flirt but don't do more or girls trying to feel good by not sleeping on the first date. My buddy found plenty of girls with everything on the table day 1. Go for the girls hotter than standard escorts but not too hot where you loose power in discussions.

No girl is worth over 300 or 400 for a single date. You can date if you want but these are broke girls and gold diggers so don't catch feelings. This is a pampering each other site. Waste what you want or play long game but time has more value to my friend.

Also a reminder curb the scammers and never prepay or send a deposit.To each their own but I mostly agree with Gaguy, I've been on SA since 2016 and have fucked over 100 girls day 1 and the highest I spent was 300 on one girl one time LOL. I've hit plenty of good looking girls my taste vary and I mostly focus on the sexual experience than if the girl is model material or not. I generally spend 100- 160 and have had plenty of success with the occasional 200-250 date two three times a year when I want to splurge. The object of the game as a monger is to get the most out of your money for as little as possible not spend thousands just because LOL.

Everyone has a different budget but I always am looking for that sale chances are I the same girl you gave 300 and up for 150 simply because I stood firm and held out till she was in need of the money. No pussy is worth more than 250 in my eyes and only the rarest of situations will make me drop 300+.

These girls put out crazy numbers and most guys paying that don't even last 10 minutes LOL. I'm clear proof you don't have to be rich as stingy with my money as I am on there. I have Champagne taste and kool-aid money and have fucked so many girls off there it's crazy LOL I just fucked a tight bodied 19 yr old for 100 that I scoop up when she is available, tore that pussy up about 6 times now and alot you can get the girls down the more you see them. One girl I hit first time 150 then next time I just ask is 120 cool and she said yes LOL.

[Ding009]

To each their own but I mostly agree with Gaguy, I've been on SA since 2016 and have fucked over 100 girls day 1 and the highest I spent was 300 on one girl one time LOL. I've hit plenty of good looking girls my taste vary and I mostly focus on the sexual experience than if the girl is model material or not. I generally spend 100- 160 and have had plenty of success with the occasional 200-250 date two three times a year when I want to splurge. The object of the game as a monger is to get the most out of your money for as little as possible not spend thousands just because LOL.

Everyone has a different budget but I always am looking for that sale chances are I the same girl you gave 300 and up for 150 simply because I stood firm and held out till she was in need of the money. No pussy is worth more than 250 in my eyes and only the rarest of situations will make me drop 300+.

These girls put out crazy numbers and most guys paying that don't even last 10 minutes LOL. I'm clear proof you don't have to be rich as stingy with my money as I am on there. I have Champagne taste and kool-aid money and have fucked so many girls off there it's crazy LOL I just fucked a tight bodied 19 yr old for 100 that I scoop up when she is available, tore that pussy up about 6 times now and alot you can get the girls down the more you see them. One girl I hit first time 150 then next time I just ask is 120 cool and she said yes LOL.I don't want to bulge much on this topic but that's a good analysis Scorpio22. There is really no defined correlation between the price and SB but I found the 150 to 200 range to be the sweet spot for most SB (definitely not all) in the tidewater area.

[Snake27]

I think that 150 - 200 works in the Tidewater area if your goal is to have a variety of short-term arrangements. The girls who are well-educated and quite beautiful will get 400, or more. I always tried for superb girls at their correspondingly high prices and hoped they would like me and come down. It usually didn't work and I had to give up because I cannot afford them. But sometimes (rarely) they like me enough to reduce their prices. It depends on what they are looking for and if I'm their type.

A case in point is the girl I've called Julia whom I've dated since May. A cheerful, pretty, slender black girl who was an athlete, we started at 300 ppv and she sometimes asks for extra for some "emergency". I managed to pay this for months since I had nothing else to spend money on during the pandemic. Lately, though, we restructed at 600 per month flat rate and I can come over whenever I want, spend hours and even overnight. I did give her a 500 bonus for Christmas. Julia says she loves me and that I'm her only lover. Our sex sessions are spectacular. She lives alone in a small efficiency apartment behind a house, has a job, and shuns younger men out of fear. Significantly, she still does not know my name, what I do for a living, or where I live and she doesn't seem to care. The "no strings" model works for her. I've had 2 other similar SB relationships over the years. Probably most civilians outside this community would consider this bizarre.

[RavensFan2012]

Scorpio-To each their own but I mostly agree with Gaguy, I've been on SA since 2016 and have fucked over 100 girls day 1 and the highest I spent was 300 on one girl one time LOL. I've hit plenty of good looking girls my taste vary and I mostly focus on the sexual experience than if the girl is model material or not. I generally spend 100- 160 and have had plenty of success with the occasional 200-250 date two three times a year when I want to splurge. The object of the game as a monger is to get the most out of your money for as little as possible not spend thousands just because LOL.

Everyone has a different budget but I always am looking for that sale chances are I the same girl you gave 300 and up for 150 simply because I stood firm and held out till she was in need of the money. No pussy is worth more than 250 in my eyes and only the rarest of situations will make me drop 300+.

These girls put out crazy numbers and most guys paying that don't even last 10 minutes LOL. I'm clear proof you don't have to be rich as stingy with my money as I am on there. I have Champagne taste and kool-aid money and have fucked so many girls off there it's crazy LOL I just fucked a tight bodied 19 yr old for 100 that I scoop up when she is available, tore that pussy up about 6 times now and alot you can get the girls down the more you see them. One girl I hit first time 150 then next time I just ask is 120 cool and she said yes.

Ravensfan2012-The beautiful thing about sugaring is that there's all different kinds of girls as far looks, weight and ethnicity and each of them come with their own price points. My sweet spot is attractive white girl that will run me $400 and occasionally $500. Sometimes I'll slum in the $250 to $300 pool because there's an occasional decent girl in there but 95% of the time they are one and dones. Your pool is the $150 range girl so you're not interested in the same kinda girls I am. I don't think too many guys are overpaying a girl I think it's mostly guys are paying what a girl is worth but not everyone either wants or is willing to pay for that girl. You're happy in your price range and I'm happy in mine. Would I love to be in the $1500 a date pool? You're damn right but I can't afford that. But that doesn't mean I think that anyone who pays that is an idiot because the girl is probably hot af. The bowl has someone for everyone and that's a beautiful thing.

[Blackmamba757]

All I will say is that a woman doesn't just care about funds. If you are an attractive no drama man, you don't have to pay ppm prices. There are girls that are just chasing funds and look for that, but there is also just a cute girl that wants some attention and some help.

I smashed plenty of dimes up there that don't break my budget.

[GAGuy2020]

Amen! My buddy has had lower end and higher quality on SA. Average girl asks for 300-400 plus a meal / coffee first due to stereotypes / idiots but will do it all for 150-200 right to your hotel without clock watching or time limits. The idiots thinking this is an escort site that think they have to pay 300-500 for quality is the idiots that give these girls big heads, inflates the market, and makes it safe for escorts that set time limits / strict rules. You have power to negotiate. This is a site of arrangements not escorts, you are not retail shopping. Never low ball under 100 or scam the girls but don't be a yes man or get played.

My buddy had some girl drop a 400-500 demand at near 40 with a little pot belly but her big tits with photo filters trick idiots and some fools cave to demands for her to justify it. 21 yo girls will do it all without time limits all day for 200 give or take 50. Stop hurting yourself and messing up the market for others. Paying more does not make you better / smarter / kinder and negotiations don't make you cheap when they over sell. Stop peacocking money drops to feel better or show off. No P or woman is worth 300+ so enjoy yourself and don't just say yes to everything. That's what gives some girls the right to act like brats, demand money without meeting, and think "everyone pays me 200 but someone gave me 400 once so I'm only worth 400 now". Stop setting false expectations with these poor girls because guys don't buy and they are actually not making money they need being stuck at high prices. Don't waste time or money on girls that only meet in public or won't meet at all. You want to wait after the virus you need to leave until you are ready. You have friends and people to talk to so make sure she really is open to more than talk.

Also keep on top of scams and dudes with stolen pictures. They will send "live" pictures and name drop a city near by but after a few hours they will in the end ask for money up front. Actually had one pull the ebay gift'card asking scam. Still have not found a legit asian girl that will meet so they might all be scams. Reminder you are not dating these girls but being a sugar daddy so avoid the ones seeking Bfs and husbands. Also if she is way too hot, she is FAKE or a waste of time / money.

Have not been scammed yet so take the advice and don't over pay. Its a buyers market you have power but be nice.


To each their own but I mostly agree with Gaguy, I've been on SA since 2016 and have fucked over 100 girls day 1 and the highest I spent was 300 on one girl one time LOL. I've hit plenty of good looking girls my taste vary and I mostly focus on the sexual experience than if the girl is model material or not. I generally spend 100- 160 and have had plenty of success with the occasional 200-250 date two three times a year when I want to splurge. The object of the game as a monger is to get the most out of your money for as little as possible not spend thousands just because LOL.

Everyone has a different budget but I always am looking for that sale chances are I the same girl you gave 300 and up for 150 simply because I stood firm and held out till she was in need of the money. No pussy is worth more than 250 in my eyes and only the rarest of situations will make me drop 300+.

These girls put out crazy numbers and most guys paying that don't even last 10 minutes LOL. I'm clear proof you don't have to be rich as stingy with my money as I am on there. I have Champagne taste and kool-aid money and have fucked so many girls off there it's crazy LOL I just fucked a tight bodied 19 yr old for 100 that I scoop up when she is available, tore that pussy up about 6 times now and alot you can get the girls down the more you see them. One girl I hit first time 150 then next time I just ask is 120 cool and she said yes LOL.

[RavensFan2012]

Amen! My buddy has had lower end and higher quality on SA. Average girl asks for 300-400 plus a meal / coffee first due to stereotypes / idiots but will do it all for 150-200 right to your hotel without clock watching or time limits. The idiots thinking this is an escort site that think they have to pay 300-500 for quality is the idiots that give these girls big heads, inflates the market, and makes it safe for escorts that set time limits / strict rules. You have power to negotiate. This is a site of arrangements not escorts, you are not retail shopping. Never low ball under 100 or scam the girls but don't be a yes man or get played.

My buddy had some girl drop a 400-500 demand at near 40 with a little pot belly but her big tits with photo filters trick idiots and some fools cave to demands for her to justify it. 21 yo girls will do it all without time limits all day for 200 give or take 50. Stop hurting yourself and messing up the market for others. Paying more does not make you better / smarter / kinder and negotiations don't make you cheap when they over sell. Stop peacocking money drops to feel better or show off. No P or woman is worth 300+ so enjoy yourself and don't just say yes to everything. That's what gives some girls the right to act like brats, demand money without meeting, and think "everyone pays me 200 but someone gave me 400 once so I'm only worth 400 now". Stop setting false expectations with these poor girls because guys don't buy and they are actually not making money they need being stuck at high prices. Don't waste time or money on girls that only meet in public or won't meet at all. You want to wait after the virus you need to leave until you are ready. You have friends and people to talk to so make sure she really is open to more than talk.

Also keep on top of scams and dudes with stolen pictures. They will send "live" pictures and name drop a city near by but after a few hours they will in the end ask for money up front. Actually had one pull the ebay gift'card asking scam. Still have not found a legit asian girl that will meet so they might all be scams. Reminder you are not dating these girls but being a sugar daddy so avoid the ones seeking Bfs and husbands. Also if she is way too hot, she is FAKE or a waste of time / money.

Have not been scammed yet so take the advice and don't over pay. Its a buyers market you have power but be nice.You need to focus on yourself and not get mad at guts that understand you have to pay for quality. You don't walk into a Lexus dealership and get mad at another customer for paying a Lexus price when you only want to pay a Hyundai price. Stick to the Hyundai dealerships and leave the luxury cars to those of us willing to pay what they're worth.

[Dash]

I'm only experienced in freestyle action and I refer to the rich hunting grounds of Florida.

I have been lucky and never paid a lot of cash to girls.

But, my volume is low, my motivation is low, and broke ass girls are always intrigued by a guy they heard is bucks up.

I used the network method; a few girls told another that they know a guy who is looking. They say I have dough, I don't.

I was fortunate to get one for a few years who was very hot and I would just go to the atm after our rendezvous.

Her average was $100 cash and occasionally more for "emergencies".

Lately I've been seeing a Haitian and the last time I gave her $40 and another $50 because she's overweight.

If she gets annoyed by this she can try her luck in the sugar dating jungle.

She said on the phone "pussy isn't free!

"What about yours? Didn't you get it for free when you were born?

Girls who are pretty but actually shy exist, if you're lucky you can find one.

[GAGuy2020]

Not mad but the fact you think that some girls are so high quality that its worthy of over paying because they demand that you buy her meals / gifts and refuses to sleep with you for days like you are dating. All just because she looks better than a crack head, that is the problem. You are trying to justify habits with a rare minority. Paying more for something does not mean it is better nor does it add value. It just seems to makes your feel better. Sure you might drop 1000 and weeks of wasted time on some hot chick but most are using you, bratty, entitled, put you on a clock, and always become work. Many times the hottest ones don't put you first or show the effort. Real babies put you first without demands.

One of my friends best, a high grade 21 year old model style girl he hooks up with has the best attitude, always calls him daddy, stays after hotel hook ups to spend time to talk about life, does everything asked, is educated, and always puts him first. One of the best babies ever. Not a brat or all about money / gifts. She asks for a solid 300 plus getting a room but she will accept 200 when it really comes down to it. Paying her 300+room asking is not getting better service, better quality, make you better, or the right thing to do. Its a 200 girl asking for 300 plus. Give more to tip when needed or go out on trips but she is still a 200 girl. With her high quality actions I could see a fool justifying paying 400 but the point is you don't have to and should not be making it a standard.

Sure if you want to piss away money, spoil girls to feel better. Have fun with that. 90% of this area girls are not at a level to justify that. The rare ones that look hot and aren't fake don't set the rules for all so don't use the exceptions on the majority. Go to a bigger city because you are not in luxury lot bud. LOL!

My buddy recently found a mid level girl that asks for a market value of 150 range but he was not only able to be negotiate her to 100 with no push back but for her to bringing in her friend for another 100.2 mid level non-trashy girls for 200 that did not get pissy about a truly fair 100 offer. She did it all, enjoyed the time, had a smile on, and did not set a clock. Heck my buddy even found a girl that does not ask for money because she truly just wants his companionship so stop over paying out of ignorance or to peacock. My buddy is not the hottest guy around but one could also suggest nicer looking guys don't pay higher Lexus price demands so lets not brag out over paying or defending it. LOL!

I also can't stress enough to not scam or really under pay the girls. Never offer less than 100 for anything physical and you should reward good service and effort with extras. If it works better for you to understand. Don't walk in to the Hyundai dealership and start paying Lexus prices and asking other to do the same because you are messing up the market. LOL!


You need to focus on yourself and not get mad at guts that understand you have to pay for quality. You don't walk into a Lexus dealership and get mad at another customer for paying a Lexus price when you only want to pay a Hyundai price. Stick to the Hyundai dealerships and leave the luxury cars to those of us willing to pay what they're worth.

[GAGuy2020]

New adventures, new stories.

Holy crap the scammer game is wild! Went against my own advice but this time with an asian mix girl. Talked all day but at the time when ready to meet, "freaked out", "had emergency", and went silent. Offered to host then caved then she offered to go to a hotel then went silent. Red flags was all her photos were sexy nude she sent and taken by a 3rd party not her. Totally fake or stolen. Always make her take a live pic fellas, real girls will. Another red flag was her claiming to be 21, married, husband ok with it, with a 17 yo step daughter. I don't see a 22 yo with a 17 yo stepdaughter.

Found a lesbian that wanted money for conversation or pics. Hinted that she can sleep with a daddy but not her thing. Ask and she said she has then said "I don't know". Broken logic idiot or scammer but just does not add up.

[GAGuy2020]

Said it once and can't stress it enough, stop prepaying these girls or sending deposits! Never did it because its stupid but some are doing it because these fakes and scammers would not be asking if it did not work some times. So stop!

Found a non-ugly trailer park girl demanding 500. She smokes, can't take a good pic, refuses to share more, and only thing she has going is not fat with bigger t*ts. If you are going to pay girls 400-500 make sure she is model level, not just younger and skinny. Dirty smoking trailer trash with dirt under her nails is not worth it. Someone paid her 500 to inflate her ego so don't be one of them fools. If you are going to break my advise and over pay, make sure they are worth it or highest level. You control the market not trashy broke girls.

My buddy met a cutie for one on one private time but after she suggested they meet again without allowance to enjoy time together. Great personality, no drama, and at least a solid 6 only asking 200. Unrushed, everything on the table, and sounds like she wants to make a real dating style relationship along with all the benefits. Another example of not having to give in to high demands when these 400-600 girls demand you over pay. Maybe my buddy is too chill and not ugly enough to get push back but just a reminder that you don't have to over pay to get quality.

Starting to notice more girls that really want to date, that a red flag for me but interesting if its yours. Seen more than one girl that does not ask for money to meetup just a relaxing time and effort. Reminds me of girls from the dating sites. Little effort and being nice can go a long way without spending them high demand monies or any at all. Got to love free benefits for a standard date night. LOL! Just watch for the meal first girls that demand high rates after going out. Talk about allowance before hand to avoid surprises.

My buddy found mid range cutie the other day, could have pushed 100-120 but gave allowance of 160 as a surprise because he wants to give examples of over paying for extra effort. She drove 30 min and met last minute so don't forget to reward good effort. Again, unrushed with everything on the table where some fool could accept the demand of 300+ for what was given or justified over paying but she would have done it all for 100 with out question. Not every chick is 100 but you can get a good one for 100-200 range so don't lie to yourself thinking you have to pay 300+ each time.

[Madaboutmax]

Of the nearly 7,000 profiles on SA in the Hampton Roads area, I only find maybe 40 attractive enough to Sugar Date. Half of those are scammers, platonic only or online only. Half of the remaining 20 are entitled and unappreciative. I focus my attention on the remaining 10. Of that 10, prices and expectations can range dramatically.

I have gone to 400, but she is a published model, spends the night with multiple rounds, cuddling and spooning. Other, more transactional girls can be had for less than 150 if you are reasonably good looking, respectful and fun.

[GAGuy2020]

TRUTH! That is why my buddy does not go with top level looking girls. The average looking girl is in need or lonely enough to be true and will put real effort towards you. Go too hot and she only wants your money with least effort or to waste time talking / games. Go too low and get a smoking trailer park girl that has an inflated ego. If you are there for a true sugar date, depends if you want hot arm candy that over charges with little physical payout or an average girl to appreciate you but might not know how to act like a professional. Good luck because there is more escorts and scammers than real babies but there is a few hidden gems. Some girls want to be real babies but most don't have the drive or upbringing to be professional so they are just escorts without realising it or they try to date you like a normal relationship (that not what a real baby does).

I'd say maybe 60-75% are fakes and not just not hot ones. Girls that only beg online, guys with stolen pics, or girls that lie asking for money but never meet. Personally my buddy thinks platonic girls are a waste too, its a waste if she can't meet for just a meal or coffee. You should able to be adults and everything from coffee to trips to private time be on the table. Why be on here with restrictions, don't waste time with those fools. I'm sure some girls just need to be trained better so good luck with that investment but you might be able to build a baby. LOL!

My buddy is not all about looks but most are cute enough. He enjoys the access to early 20 year old and nicer non-white girls than you see on escort sites. All meetings appreciated him and his fair kindness with no drama or extra effort. He was lucky to filter out the scammers and crazies in chat.

Just a side note, although not out of the ballpark at 400 but all the average ones that my buddy met always do no clock watching, multiple rounds, cuddle, talk, and spooning. Make sure them model girls are worth it if your over paying for her looks because you are not getting better service just a prettier shell. Hope her personality matches the outside too.


Of the nearly 7,000 profiles on SA in the Hampton Roads area, I only find maybe 40 attractive enough to Sugar Date. Half of those are scammers, platonic only or online only. Half of the remaining 20 are entitled and unappreciative. I focus my attention on the remaining 10. Of that 10, prices and expectations can range dramatically.

I have gone to 400, but she is a published model, spends the night with multiple rounds, cuddling and spooning. Other, more transactional girls can be had for less than 150 if you are reasonably good looking, respectful and fun.

[GAGuy2020]

My buddy has run in to a few girls that are "small business owners" or "self employed" trying to act as normal girls but after a little digging he found they are all strippers and / or escorts on other sites. Watch out for them! They are money first and some might even try to bring in escort time limits and other limited rules babies should not have. Caught a few asking for deposits, although at face value it can sound almost ok there is too many scammers so don't do deposits! Your wallet is more important than the attention they give you so they will be sketchy even if they get physical. Don't think this is acceptable or support it.

Also noticed a trend of these escorts trying to "meet in public first" but they are freaking escorts inviting strangers to their hotels all day long. What's up with that? LOL! The bonus is some of these girls can host so that can help.

Life tip, talk to a few girls at the same time and over book meetings, it is easier to cancel on a girl than it is to find one last minute. LOL!

Also still not found an asian girl that is real or trustworthy. One 1/2 Filipino chick was an awesome meeting but the full asians are picky, fake, or all about games. Anyone else had luck? LOL!

[Blak Gekko]

Has anyone had luck getting through to this chick? She messages me almost every other damn day on the SA site when she's posting asking "what is it that you are looking for?" I never discuss anything on the site as it's my strategy to quickly get them offline to text. At any rate I've left my damn number with her at least 10 times but she refuses to text. If any of you have actually gotten her number can you please shed some light on what you did to obtain it. Thanks.

BG.

[Blak Gekko]

Had the pleasure of meeting this one.

https://www.seeking.com/member/302e0f95-569a-4596-80a1-b464ebef944e

BG.

[Blak Gekko]

This one is a definite must see if you get an opportunity 😆.

https://www.seeking.com/member/0f358114-d73e-4e8e-98cd-bbc35330c5ef

[Blak Gekko]

I believe a few of you have chatted with this one. My meeting was very positive.

Pros: Fun, submissive and follows directions. As always YMMV.

Cons: Does not drive you must arrange transportation.

Damage: 200 tokens.

https://www.seeking.com/member/0ef35bfa-66b9-478b-8c77-2db6d0bcc4d6

[Blak Gekko]

Superstar here!

https://www.seeking.com/member/f739bebc-8ab6-4d51-9018-04fbcd97493f

BG

[Blak Gekko]

Legit!

https://www.seeking.com/member/53112c42-0c73-4648-829e-be8774520bdd

BG.

[Blak Gekko]

https://www.seeking.com/member/5b821d77-bc87-4c0e-99c3-7697348ae484

B Gekko.

[Blak Gekko]

I met this one in early November and forgot all about her. If you are seeking submissiveness she's the one.

https://www.seeking.com/member/be7df286-aba7-43cf-9fac-794c6cf442d2

BGekko.

[Blak Gekko]

Absolutely awesome time! She's the real deal.

https://www.seeking.com/member/c4fad15a-6bb0-420a-b42b-8b0cafc9f284

BG.

[Blak Gekko]

PSA! This one texted me great conversation for a couple of days then I set a meeting. On day of meet received the "good morning" text and I assumed all was good to go until she hit me with the "can you cashapp me $20 for gas. " I was like no I don't do cashapp but to try and entice her to the FC I said I'd pad the allowance by $20 to cover gas. Then I got the I've driven to your hotel and I'm outside waiting but can't please you because I'm hungry. Lmfao. Asked me to cashapp $10 so she could go grab food and then return. I told her I'd be down and we could go to McDonalds together then her ass went DARK on the comms. LOL! You can't make this shit up; skammers go to great lengths to score $10-20. LOL!

https://www.seeking.com/member/dba02ac5-2c44-4e4d-9733-c2a44fb091ae

BG.

[Blak Gekko]

This one is good to go. Took a test drive and the ride as smooth as can be.

https://www.seeking.com/member/a8b4c959-26d2-4747-9bbb-49d6af2c500e

BG.

[Blak Gekko]

This one advertises in multiple locations but I saw her in Hampton a few weeks ago. She is loads of fun!

https://www.seeking.com/member/5b0a024c-003c-4d6e-8120-0e8291c9deaf

BG.

[Blak Gekko]

This is a unique young lady who marches to the beat of her own drum but absolute fun in a one on one setting!

https://www.seeking.com/member/0423285f-7673-4d11-bd05-b24b5e40e6b5

BG.

[GAGuy2020]

My buddy just had an amazing meeting! Basic chat and set date with early 20 something with a little pudgy but not bad looking girl. Nicer than escort site girls but she is not new to the hook ups for allowance life. After a few days of talk she actually suggested to bring her friend in on the first meeting. Normally that would be a red flag but she proved herself well in chat and it paid off to trust her. Her friend was hot, not top level but tight body and looking really good. She tried to ask for an average rate of 200 each but they took a fair offer of 150 with no push back or getting upset. 300 for 2 above mid level girls ya'll. Know the market and stop over paying! Got 2 for the price some of ya'll justify paying 1 girl. No time limits, rules, restrictions, or drama. Just be nice and show effort to be rewarded. .

One of my buddies long term girls that he met early was in a pinch and she even offered 75 for a last minute meet. She is pretty but a lower end escort that found the site for sure, not dirty but she smokes and I'm sure there is high traffic. Personally never suggest going that low but she offered. If he took her up on it, he would have tipped extra but he was flirting with a new face so had to pass. Supply and demand gents with lean towards being a buyers market.

My buddy finally met a 18 yo girl, more for the bucket list aspect with him near 40 yo but was not a let down. She was brand new to the site and experience was needed to give her performance quality but it was cute watching react like a new girl and asking questions. Not in the mood to train her but both parties had fun.

Love the effort put in to the reviews below but would suggest doing 1 post with them all together in 1 post. As I always say, never pre-pay or do deposits to avoid scams.

[Blak Gekko]

This hidden gem is GTG. See her and you’ll discover why.

https://www.seeking.com/member/c51a78cf-63c9-4816-bff3-264b1217c9db

BG.

[Blak Gekko]

Does anyone have any credible intel on this one? Received text from her today and had to negotiate her down to reasonable allowance. It appears she was receiving 500 tokens per arrangement from previous SD. Thanks in advance.

https://www.seeking.com/member/7523259d-86a0-41c1-9b0f-885ca238685e

BG.

[GAGuy2020]

My buddy had his first scammer that got farther than normal. He is able to filter out most in chat and never had issues after tons of meet ups. He did not loose money but it got far. She would talk and agreed to meet with real like pictures and background story. He now thinks she is a scammer and not a dude like normal dudes with stolen pics but ya never really know. Said she was on the way but mid trip asked for gas money, main red flag he missed and should have called it there. On "arrival" she asked him to go out and meet at the car and that is another red flag he has never seen before. She said ok to just going in but then went dark. He was pissed because it was too late to get another girl on a limited free time schedule. At worst it was almost a wasted room but he had back up so was not too bad but sucks a scammer go that far just to ask for gas on the way. Glad he never paid before but take his advise about never pre-pay, buy gifts, or do deposits before meeting, call it off immediately. All pre-pay girls are scammers and they would not ask if it did not work so stop!

If she is too hot for too little, watch out! You can talk girls down but deals that seem too good to be true, they usually are scammers.

Found a cute upper mid range girl asking for 400 so help put these girls in check and don't accept that. Also seen girls trying to put on time limits so don't accept time limits because that will breed escorts with rules and time limits. Babies don't have one pop rules or pay per hour prices. Turn them down! We can control stereotypical over pricing.

[GAGuy2020]

Who the freak is raw dogging these girls to the point where they have to ask my buddy use a condom and its not known and implied it will be used. STDs to the side, you don't want to raw dog money motivated and crazy chicks. If you thought them demanding 400+ was bad, wait til a pregnancy scare comes up and they really want to demand money or mess up your life. LOL! Feels the best but suggest don't play with that fire. Someone is doing it because it keeps happening. Heard a few say dude refuse the condom at the last minute too, lets stop that too.

Help keep the fat ones in check too. Ran in to a few not obese but very large girls pushing high demands. Big girls mean big boobs but don't get tunnel vision. If the full body quality is lower than the boobs don't pay these girls 300+ model level prices because big boobs is not better P. If big is your thing that is cool but they are demanding not asking outside their quality class. Help keep them in check and keep it under 300. My buddy loves nice large ones but avoid their greed.

Don't be afraid to be nice and counter offer their demands, they act like they are asking but they refuse to budge then that is a demand. Show them they won't get their demanding prices and need to settle on a fair arrangement. Don't low ball quality and great service but don't cave to first offer and over pay. Big heads on these girls messes up the market value and you loose.

Had a chick freak over 50 today.

Buddy: Lets do 200.

Her: "I will meet you in a hotel but I normally get 300-500 so I need at least 250 to feel better.

Buddy: Well I'll go up to that after our first meeting if you prove your self and are quality.

Her: "It feels like this is transactional so I can't makes me feel like an escort".

I don't know what the freak these idiots are thinking but a coffee date before she demands money from you for hooking up makes them no less escorts. LOL! Not sure how 50 make her a ***** without out it and a baby with the 50. Nothing else changes. Keep these fools in check ya'll! These girls don't want to "feel like hookers" they better stop playing hooker games. LOL!

[GAGuy2020]

So my buddy just had a early 20's thin natural yet curvy girl today. She asked 200 but accepted 150 all day with a smile on her face. She says thank you, follows commands, has few limits, and shows effort, plus is not crazy. Don't get caught on brats with demands, idiots making up rules so they don't feel like ******, girls asking for too much, and girls waiting days to meet. Know you worth kings and they should make the effort to please daddy so they can get spoiled. Its an arrangement so you don't work for them and you are not the slave to their rules.

[GAGuy2020]

So my buddy has seen a few girls where "this is their first meeting" or "I'm new to this". Is my buddy really that lucky to get these new girls or is it just something many girls say? New girls are a double edge sword. They don't push back hard on money issues, have few limits, are open, and are eager to please but. They can some times not know how to act more professional about things or they might ask for too much thinking they are worth 1000's so help teach them about real life. LOL! My buddy is not a fan of training these girls but most have been easy meetings and fun. One girl even mentioned something like SA was trending on TikTok so we might be getting in some new faces but watch for them high expectations and fools.

My buddy had more good times with the girl that suggested her friend before my buddy even asked. First time she brought her friend for 3 way play, now she just mentioned another girl willing to play solo or in 4 way play. They really want 200 each and are working towards the standard but would take 150 and say thank you with a smile all day long. The main girl is just ok but both her friends are very hot, not model hot, but above average for sure. Keep this in mind, 3 above average level girls for 150 each, 400-600 total for what some of these chicks demand solo. Some of the 300-500 solo girls my buddy has seen make demands but are not as hot as these 3 girls together so don't over pay. Gems like them are rare but don't settle and feel free to keep looking beyond the first responders.

Don't feel bad is 150 is hard to find also because it takes work and flirting but if you are locking in 200 range that's fair market value that most girls should take with peaceful negotiations give or take 50. Stop over paying these high demand girls unless they bring 300+ quality to the table.

[DWinthrop]

So my buddy has seen a few girls where "this is their first meeting" or "I'm new to this". Is my buddy really that lucky to get these new girls or is it just something many girls say? LOL, it's always their first time and none of them are hookers.

[Blak Gekko]

Some pregame festivities. The month of January was pretty good. LOL!

BG.

[Blak Gekko]

Some additional items for your entertainment.


Some pregame festivities. The month of January was pretty good. LOL!

BG.

[TopGun9]

Some pregame festivities. The month of January was pretty good. LOL!

BG.NICE!

Glad to see you posting again brother.

[BadManInBlue]

Fellas! It's been forever since I've posted. Covid has made things entirely too difficult for me to find time to meet people this past year. I keep scrolling the normal sites from time to time, and have noticed I really haven't missed much!

With that being said I am a member of a certain website that isn't SA. But I have found a lot of the women on this site are looking for SD's. I have never gone this route before, because I just don't know if I can really manage the lifestyle.

So that's why I'm here. I'm looking for guidance. If anyone could help me get started on this adventure, I'd really appreciate it. What can I expect? What should I be looking for and what / who to avoid?

I've have thought of joining SA, but need to know what's the cost and can you join without giving your own CC numbers? The site I'm on allows you to use gift cards to remain discreet. Again any help would be monumental. Thanks! And stay safe out there!

[GAGuy2020]

Its pay only site and can add up so watch out but quality is there. Do the 3 month sample for a few hundred. Quality is much better than escort sites but they can take some work to find a deal or avoid dude with stolen pics or greedy scammers. My buddy always got hotel rooms so seeing a girls would start around 250 with a room but was closer to 300 a visit after everything (without a meet up meal / coffee before). Some can ask 300-400 alone but counter offer and stand firm because they are in need so you don't over pay and if you can get girls to go back to your place, you can save on a room. Scammers and greedy *** are all over but there are some hidden gems. My buddy has seen more girls in the last 2 months than in the last 2 years but it can add up to thousands so make sure you can afford it. Its addictive but can help with a bucket list. Still have not seen "real Asian" girls because were scammers or asking too much but tons of everyone else at different ages and sizes. Don't know about payments but my buddy avoids apps and pre-paying due to scammer potential being too high. Cash spends ya'll!


Fellas! It's been forever since I've posted. Covid has made things entirely too difficult for me to find time to meet people this past year. I keep scrolling the normal sites from time to time, and have noticed I really haven't missed much!

With that being said I am a member of a certain website that isn't SA. But I have found a lot of the women on this site are looking for SD's. I have never gone this route before, because I just don't know if I can really manage the lifestyle.

So that's why I'm here. I'm looking for guidance. If anyone could help me get started on this adventure, I'd really appreciate it. What can I expect? What should I be looking for and what / who to avoid?

I've have thought of joining SA, but need to know what's the cost and can you join without giving your own CC numbers? The site I'm on allows you to use gift cards to remain discreet. Again any help would be monumental. Thanks! And stay safe out there!