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They do seem to want to yell and argue a bit more lately for sure. Lately when I pull-up to an intersection just wanting to get on Aurora to get somewhere and an SW approaches from the corner and I wave her away she instantly wants to know why I don't want a date. She wants me to explain myself. When or if I finally just tell her I want BB then she wants to full-on fight about it. B***h you fucking came to me and wanted to know why I didn't want a date, now you're pissed after I gave you my requirements. And they all think that no other girls out there will or are doing anything bare. "You're never going to find someone" is a common response. The look of disbelief on the faces of those three hookers the other night when I picked-up Priscilla after they had just finished yelling at me was pretty damn comical.
These girls out there right now are some serious trouble
Igotmonies
09-14-23, 12:35
Hey guys are there any budget friendly SW's in Seattle? Coming from the Midwest where a BBBJ is $20 or $30 and FS is $40 or $60 depending on hotness. These $200+ prices for CBJ's seems insane.
I personally haven't found any SW willing go below $50 in a very long time. Under $100, yes, usually with someone I've known for quite a while. The hotter supermodel LA girls out there will probably walk away from you or try to convince you that they're worth it (they usually aren't). And finding BBBJ from the lot of them is rare, though lately that seems to be a bit easier.
That's just my experience and I'm merely one among many, other guys might have a different perspective.
Hey guys are there any budget friendly SW's in Seattle? Coming from the Midwest where a BBBJ is $20 or $30 and FS is $40 or $60 depending on hotness. These $200+ prices for CBJ's seems insane.
YungCheese
09-14-23, 15:16
Hey guys are there any budget friendly SW's in Seattle? Coming from the Midwest where a BBBJ is $20 or $30 and FS is $40 or $60 depending on hotness. These $200+ prices for CBJ's seems insane.Where the hell do I have to go in the Midwest to find $30 BBBJ? I'd save more money flying out and mongering there than I do here.
Hey guys are there any budget friendly SW's in Seattle? Coming from the Midwest where a BBBJ is $20 or $30 and FS is $40 or $60 depending on hotness. These $200+ prices for CBJ's seems insane.Welcome to Seattle. If I lived there I could afford fucking everdayy!
I'm hating. LOL.
Michael1967
09-14-23, 16:18
Hey guys are there any budget friendly SW's in Seattle? Coming from the Midwest where a BBBJ is $20 or $30 and FS is $40 or $60 depending on hotness. These $200+ prices for CBJ's seems insane.You'll need a time machine and then go back about 15 years. My last $20 BJ was in White Center about 5 years ago. I felt bad and gave her $40.
SocratesRvng
09-14-23, 20:07
Where the hell do I have to go in the Midwest to find $30 BBBJ? I'd save more money flying out and mongering there than I do here.You name it. Even Florida. Oh, hell, Florida is a goldmine in the Orlando and Daytona area or even Tampa. I moved from eastern Missouri and I only brought 20 with me when I went mongering and they were happy to get it.
When I lived in Daytona, I had one who let me get all three holes on a regular and she loved the 20's I gave her. I haven't set foot on the Seattle stroll because the price is not worth the trouble. If you want fun for cheap, save your chips and buy a decent priced ticket and monger until your hearts content for a weekend in the Midwest or southeast coast.
So-Crates.
I went out last night around 3 am to 4 am. It was really dead. Only a very small handful of girls out. Winter time dead. None would do BBBJ but one girl really tried hard and said she could do a hand job without a condom! LOL. I am not in middle school anymore LOL.
As for the $30 blowjobs. The only chance you have at getting something for $30 on AA is a gumjob. Though probably not even a gumjob cause I saw a girl who looked cute and pulled over for her near the corner where there is some homeless activity and quickly realized she has no teeth though she was trying her best to hide it (ew). To get out of the situation without just being rude and driving off I immediately asked her "do you do anal?" and of course she said no and off my way I went. That's a great get out of jail free card to get away from any SW quick!
You could find a $30 blowjob with a non pro / homeless drug addict very potentially though in my experience. I think the lowest I've ever paid was 40. I am not a cheap skate so I don't negotiate if the price is really low already and a good deal.
There are very very few good deals to be had out on AA. You have to put in a lot of work to find a girl who is reasonable and not trying to charge top dollar for the bare minimum. It feels good to get a good deal on something. Whether it's a new car or a BBBJ. Everybody is happy and you didn't have to pay over sticker price and you didn't lowball either. It's just a good deal at the right price. There isn't much to be had out there like that. The way I look at it those girls are trying to sell you a used or new car that barely even runs! There is no value in it. Oh and they want over the market price for it too!
I went out to AA this morning. My gut told me not too. My gut told me it's a bad idea. It's one of those feelings you get and should listen too. I went anways though. First girl I stopped for she comes up to the window and immediately wants to get in and I tell her "lets talk here" and she goes off on me tell me how I am rude and how she doesn't see rude gentleman! All because I didn't let her ass in the car! I thought phew! Dodged a bullet there!
Second girl of the night. A heavier set BSW with big boobs and big butt. I pull over for her and she's gives me the usual am I a cop bullshit. To which I replied you aren't from around here and she wants to see my dick. I told her up front what I wanted head without a condom and she said 200. I said 150? And she countered with 200 and started sweet talking me at this point about how she's really good and shit. So I said fine and agreed on that. She gets in the car and I asked her you do doggy? To which she replied she LOVES doggy! I'm thinking at this point okay great we are going to have a good time then she seems chill and the price isn't that bad. A short drive later we pull up to a big parking lot behind some buildings and this is where shit started getting really weird. I cash apped her the 200. I then say let's get in the back seat there's more room. She then starts looking back there and tells me "It makes me nervous back there". Mind you my backseat is completely empty and it's a 4 door sedan this isn't some mini van. Or anything sketchy. She then starts moving her seat back and telling me about how she can make it like a bed and I can get on top of her. I'm sitting there explaining to this heavy set BSW that that just won't work. It obviously isn't going to work I am a bigger guy and she's big herself! It's a compact 4 door sedan like hello? I didn't say that to her but we did some back and forth and this idiot clearly isn't just not getting it. I tell her about how we can do doggy in the back and blah blah blah. I get out of the car and get in the back and she turns on her iPhone camera and starts shining it all over the place in the back seat while she's seated up front. I'm thinking to myself this is really weird never seen this before. After she does that for a bit she then decides to climb her fat ass into the backseat instead of just getting out and using the backdoor. Mind you we are in a huge ass empty parking lot with nobody around! She gets in the back and is still shining it everywhere and under the seats. This girl BTW definitely wasn't a tweaker. It becomes obvious later why she does this.
After she gets into the back seat she pulls her top down and I am sucking on her big milk jugs and she is really liking it. She is just rubbing her hand over my thighs but not touching my cock at this point which I am kind of surprised by. After a bit of that she then pulls out a condom very discreetly but I am noticing it in her hand and then it becomes obvious why she does all this flashlight bullshit! She then is trying to put the condom on and I ask her wait? We agreed on head without a condom. She's like know we didn't! I said "I can" I was like WTF do you mean? We negotiated 200. She says yes "for full sex" and I said yea and that includes a blowjob. She says it does but without a condom is extra. The very first thing I asked her when I pulled over was if she does head without a condom. At this point I'm really mad because I just got bait and switched again! After a lot of back and forth I finally ask her how much more. I'm thinking to myself okay it'll be 50 or 100 which I still am not wanting to pay because we already negotiated 200. She tells me $1,000! Can you believe this shit? This HEAVY set black girl wants 1 k more for head without a condom! She told me "men have paid that before" I told her I wouldn't pay 1 k for a blowjob from the hottest girl on earth! It's just a blowjob it isn't worth that. To which she replied you don't think I am worth it? I told her hell no. It's just a blowjob. She's like "I am worth it".
I will make it a really long story short. Things got super heated and we got into a yelling match about this whole shit on the way back after I threw her ***** ass off me because she's trying to force herself on me. Like I'm clearly heated and I told you multiple times I don't want you touching me and to get off me! She's heavy set too so her leaning on me like that I was feeling super uncomfortable like I had sand bags on me.
I've never ever seen it this bad out there. The girls working out there right now are the worst of the worst. All 3 times I've been out there these past few weeks have been nothing but trouble!
I checked my cashapp just now and I see I sent her a payment for the same amount back in June at almost the same time of the morning. I remember her now! I remember where I picked her up too. It's a shame she's turned into a bait and switch piece of shit! I can see why she's afraid of the back seat. When you are robbing guys yea they tend to get fucking mad you idiot.
YungCheese
09-15-23, 10:27
You name it. Even Florida. Oh, hell, Florida is a goldmine in the Orlando and Daytona area or even Tampa. I moved from eastern Missouri and I only brought 20 with me when I went mongering and they were happy to get it.
When I lived in Daytona, I had one who let me get all three holes on a regular and she loved the 20's I gave her. I haven't set foot on the Seattle stroll because the price is not worth the trouble. If you want fun for cheap, save your chips and buy a decent priced ticket and monger until your hearts content for a weekend in the Midwest or southeast coast.
So-Crates.Thank you my brotha, I might have to take a look at Florida for sure.
Igotmonies
09-15-23, 16:26
Where the hell do I have to go in the Midwest to find $30 BBBJ? I'd save more money flying out and mongering there than I do here.Tulsa, OKC, St Louis, ATL etc.
Its not very rare around here to get a BBBJ for $20 or $30.
Igotmonies
09-15-23, 16:33
You'll need a time machine and then go back about 15 years. My last $20 BJ was in White Center about 5 years ago. I felt bad and gave her $40.Agreed! To support the Seattle rates I'm guessing the average income much be over 150 K.
You name it. Even Florida. Oh, hell, Florida is a goldmine in the Orlando and Daytona area or even Tampa. I moved from eastern Missouri and I only brought 20 with me when I went mongering and they were happy to get it.
When I lived in Daytona, I had one who let me get all three holes on a regular and she loved the 20's I gave her. I haven't set foot on the Seattle stroll because the price is not worth the trouble. If you want fun for cheap, save your chips and buy a decent priced ticket and monger until your hearts content for a weekend in the Midwest or southeast coast.
So-Crates.Hell! In Philly, Baltimore and NJ you can get a nice BBBJ for less than $20 sometime. Houston 3rd ward you can get a BBBJ for $10 from a 25 yr old BSW and FS for $20.
Check out videos on charmcityporn (dot) com if you don't believe me.
Well shit! That kinda takes the fun out of it for me. I guess at these prices I'm just going to fly my side chick in from SLC to spend a few days with me. The flights round trip from SLC are only like $300.
YungCheese
09-15-23, 17:51
Tulsa, OKC, St Louis, ATL etc.
Its not very rare around here to get a BBBJ for $20 or $30.I had no idea. I'll be quitting my job here pretty soon and entering retirement early. Looks like I'll be doing a lot of traveling.
Igotmonies
09-15-23, 23:37
I had no idea. I'll be quitting my job here pretty soon and entering retirement early. Looks like I'll be doing a lot of traveling.100% you should travel and check out Philly, Baltimore, NJ, all over Florida and st Louis for sure.
I travel a lot for my job and used to think the prices in Phoenix where crazy but now looking at Seattle I'm thinking phx is a bargain. They top notch girls there (18 to 21 yr old) ask for $1. 5 for FS on the blade.
I can't even imagine what LA must be like. FFS! I'm probably just getting too old or something.
100% you should travel and check out Philly, Baltimore, NJ, all over Florida and st Louis for sure.
I travel a lot for my job and used to think the prices in Phoenix where crazy but now looking at Seattle I'm thinking phx is a bargain. They top notch girls there (18 to 21 yr old) ask for $1. 5 for FS on the blade.
I can't even imagine what LA must be like. FFS! I'm probably just getting too old or something.Yea the girls out here are asking $150 for FS all day. I could go up to any girl out there on AA and get $150 for FS just about. Is this uncovered BBBJ for 150 down there or what?
YungCheese
09-16-23, 00:51
100% you should travel and check out Philly, Baltimore, NJ, all over Florida and st Louis for sure.
I travel a lot for my job and used to think the prices in Phoenix where crazy but now looking at Seattle I'm thinking phx is a bargain. They top notch girls there (18 to 21 yr old) ask for $1. 5 for FS on the blade.
I can't even imagine what LA must be like. FFS! I'm probably just getting too old or something.Thanks bro. Prices here are trash. I get lucky from time to time with gems mongering for streetwalkers, but driving aimlessly for lack of variety is tiring. Arizona sounds like the spot though.
I downloaded a file from the City of Seattle regarding reported crime from SPD records going back to 2008. It was very recently updated with offense dates up to September 18th. I loaded said file into a database platform and did some quick analysis on the purchasing prostitution offenses. For some reason the file only has data going back to 2016 regarding these specific offenses, but it was an interesting quick look nonetheless. Keep in mind this was very quick simple analysis, I plan to look deeper when I have more time. Also, I'd like to examine arrests involving providers. Perhaps some of you might find it useful, it definitely satisfied my curiosity and confirmed my assumptions thus far.
But here's a quick look -.
There have been 33 total arrests in 2023 thus far. All of those arrests occurred along Aurora Ave, specifically the 125th block of Aurora which is the parking lot where Lowe's / Krispy Kreme / Jack in the Box is located. I don't think any of that information would surprise any of us who've been reading this forum the past couple of years. I myself have seen two stings go down in that lot as have others who've reported to the forum. The most common timeframe for those busts is between 6 pm and 9 pm, with a few outliers around 12 am. Weekdays between Monday and Wednesday were the only days on which these arrests seemed to occur. Busts seemed to have stopped after very late June, but they could start up again. There are girls still working the Lowe's lot, and based upon the information in the data I'd just stay the hell out of there. I'm guessing that SPD could start targeting the 100 blocks again as a lot of girls have been working south. But I'd avoid talking to SWs in large parking lots, SPD seems to like those for staging stings and the data seems to indicate that I'm correct.
But just for interest and curiosity, here are the numbers for previous recent years starting in 2019 -.
In 2019 there were 87 arrests, the highest number out of the previous four years. The vast majority of those busts occurred in the Northgate area, including Bitterlake and Greenwood, along the Aurora corridor. Of those, the majority of busts occurred on the 100 block of Aurora Ave, in what I'm guessing is the parking lot of the small plaza behind the bus stop on the southbound side or possibly the parking lot of Oaktree Plaza. The second-highest number of arrests occurred on the 135th block of Aurora, near the Office Depot or the parking lot of the plaza where Seattle Supplements is located across the street. After that it looks as though a few arrests happened at the Nexus hotel on Northgate Way. From there the numbers drop-off dramatically to a few locations near Pioneer Square / International District.
2020 was comparatively calm with only 21 arrests for the entire year, the majority of those again occurring along Aurora Ave around the 135th block of Aurora. The rest were spread-out among the 125th block and 100 blocks farther south. A few in South Park in south Seattle as well as the International District.
Things picked-up in 2021 with 30 arrests, again with the majority of arrests being along the Aurora corridor. Most of the arrests seemed to occur on the 125th block of Aurora, with the remainder being the 130 blocks and the 100 blocks. Interestingly, there were additional one-off arrests in Queen Anne, Lake Union and Capitol Hill.
2022 was about the same in terms of numbers to 2021 at 28, however all of the busts for the year occurred on the 125th block of Aurora with one outlier being on Vine St.
Counted a few dozen out tonight. A few thin BSW, lot's of thick girls. Two worth noting, a tall slim blonde next to the bikini barista, and a thin, pretty brunette named Lexi further south. She has a room and wants 500, too much for me to report back one quality of service.
206-678-9692.
$500?
$500. Seriously, $500. On Aurora Ave. Wow, man. Wow. One thing I commonly hear lately from SWs is that they aren't making any money in Seattle. This is why. Again, wow. Curious, did she say anything about a time-limit or running a timer for that rate? That seems to be common out there lately. Also, was that at least all uncovered?
Question, to which bikini barista stand are you referring? If it's the stand farther north near 135th, I'd be careful talking to any SW around that lot, SPD has a history of doing stings there going back at least four years. Just FYI.
$500. Holy shit.
Counted a few dozen out tonight. A few thin BSW, lot's of thick girls. Two worth noting, a tall slim blonde next to the bikini barista, and a thin, pretty brunette named Lexi further south. She has a room and wants 500, too much for me to report back one quality of service.
Counted a few dozen out tonight. A few thin BSW, lot's of thick girls. Two worth noting, a tall slim blonde next to the bikini barista, and a thin, pretty brunette named Lexi further south. She has a room and wants 500, too much for me to report back one quality of service.
206-678-9692.https://sumosear.ch/images/webpage/l-i-t-t-l-e-l-e-x-i/52839928
This is the ad that number goes too. I've seen her out there many times. She's pretty mid definitely not worth anything near 50 lool! She has no tits and no ass really that I can see. At night I am sure she looks better but she's meh.
Here is a review of this upstanding young entrepreneur on callescort. Org.
"Very very very transactional. Lots of no's and keeps making excuses not to follow the agreement. Waste of time and money, I do not recommend. ".
Well that was predictable LOL. She's just a fleecer it's written on her forehead. I bet that's 500 and CBJ only LOL! You know it is. She's only after the incels and simps. These girls are basically nigeran scammers. They know most will say no but they will find that one guy who says yes who has never had sex before.
I went out yesterday morning at about 4 am. I didn't feel like it, but I was in the mood to just drive around. I went to a stretch of road near my house that sometimes has street walkers, most of the time not though. Does have quite a bit of traffic of people passing thru town though. This wasn't Aurora or even close. I drove by a bus stop at about 4:15 am. Sitting on the bench was a VERY pretty and young looking girl. I thought to myself, nah no way she's looking for dates. I kept driving. I was about to get on the highway and go home when I decided to turn around and give it a shot. You miss 100% of the shots you don't take. Protip: repeat that to yourself if you need some courage to ask a girl out and / or talk to them wherever they are at in this world. I drove through some back streets to avoid going down the main road and having to pull a you turn in front of her. I don't like to scare civilians! I pulled up at the bus stop and I see she is extremely pretty and young looking! I say "hey do you know where the nearest mc'donalds is?" and she says huh? I repeat it as she's coming up to my window. She gives me kind of a funny look "uhh try google maps" at this point I'm thinking to myself fuck. I say to her "I can't its bugged out! She then looks at me and says "Do you want me to show you?" I say "sure!" and she hesitates for a few moments before getting in my car. I pull a you turn to head to the mcdonald's but I'm thinking in my head wait I just don't her I don't know where it is. I then proceed to tell her that I know where it is and I just wanted to talk to her. She replied "I know".
I think she discreetly told me she was working. I don't remember how she said it. I got the memo though and I told her hey do you want to go to my house? She said sure. I have to tell you at this point I am still a bit nervous because she is so young and so pretty. She told me she was 19. I drove back to my house and we made nice small talk on the way. When we got inside I got her a white claw and we saw down on my couch where she proceeded to cuddle up next to me. She put her head close to mine and we both went in for a kiss and made out for a good 10 minutes on my couch. She hopped on top of me a few minutes in. She was just so gorgeous. To make it a long story short I took her to the bedroom and we did more cuddling this time naked and I ate her pussy out and after a lot more foreplay I fucked her doggy style (no condom) and pretty quickly bust a nut inside her! She was breath takingly pretty and an unbelievable lover. It was as if she was my gf.
She showered after we had sex and we talked. I asked her if I could be her sugar daddy. She said she would think about it. That she had some loose ends to tie up. She added me on her snapchat on my phone because she didn't have her phone with her. I am still waiting for her to accept.
I know she isn't an angel and has some issues. She told me she is in town to visit some friends in jail. She told me she is from Federal Way area. When I asked her before I got to my house cashapp or cash? She said cash and I drove to the atm where she told me she wanted 80! I was like thinking to myself damn this girl has absolutely no self esteem! I told her I would give her more. I knew then and there this girl had some issues if she's charging that low. Or maybe something else was LOW if you know what I mean. Not going to elaborate on that though. She had an unbelievable butt and tits. When I grabbed her ass for the first time. The skin felt totally different from any other girl I've been with in the past 2 years. It was very smooth and tight feeling. I don't know how else to describe it. The skin just felt so amazing in a way that I can honestly say I haven't felt before. She had a nice bubble butt and nice tits. Just the whole package and she had an amazing smile with very very white teeth. The issue with her though I noticed was after having sex and she was sitting on my couch in a towel after taking a shower. That there was cuts all over her forearms where she was VERY CLEARLY cutting herself. I mean LOTS and lots of cut marks. It was actually kind of scary. I looked around her body and saw other cut marks else where too. But mainly her forearms. I thought about saying something. But I didn't want to embarrass her. She must really be going through some serious pain, I've never in my life seen something like this. I felt so bad for her and then realized why she was loving the cuddling so much. Clearly this girl wasn't loved as a kid or something really bad happen to her and needed my love just as much as I needed hers.
Another thing that made me wonder about something. When she told me how old she was. She then asked me and I said "guess" she guessed 25! Which is between 10-15 years off. I don't know if she was just trying to flatter me or it was something else entirely. I said "You are pretty close" and she kind of seemed happy. Most girls that I've picked up guess around 30 and many have told me I have good skin. Who really knows but I thought it a bit odd.
I went out searching for her this morning but didn't see her. She may have gone back to Federal Way. I genuinely dreamt all night about this girl. I feel almost like a simp now she was that pretty.
$500?
Question, to which bikini barista stand are you referring? If it's the stand farther north near 135th, I'd be careful talking to any SW around that lot, SPD has a history of doing stings there going back at least four years. Just FYI.First street South of the cemetery.
II went out searching for her this morning but didn't see her. She may have gone back to Federal Way. I genuinely dreamt all night about this girl. I feel almost like a simp now she was that pretty.It sounds like she's 16. No moral judgement, 18 is rather arbitrary, just be carefu bro.
She showered after we had sex and we talked. I asked her if I could be her sugar daddy. She said she would think about it.
I feel almost like a simp now she was that pretty.We are either a simp / white knight or we ain't. It seems you just experienced an emotionally weak moment. We all get them when we think we met that special girl.
I've seen plenty of your reports that tell me that you're no simp.
Hope you find her again.
Of course you don't make any of the shots you don't take out there. However if you're like me a HSP person nothing is easy with people interactions. A rejection stings a HSP way harder than someone else. I haven't faced rejection for almost 14 years since I haven't tried to do anything dating wise for 14 years.
I almost feel its not worth it since the money buys a warm body anytime you like especially in this area where woman for hire are so easy to find.
I've talked to her a few times. She's definitely all-covered and limited service. She was really nice during every interaction and never yelled at me for asking for anything bare. I got the feeling that was a front, though, and part of the hustle.
206-678-9692.
Randy Darwin
09-23-23, 18:58
Sorry where was this?
I went out yesterday morning at about 4 am. I didn't feel like it, but I was in the mood to just drive around. I went to a stretch of road near my house that sometimes has street walkers, most of the time not though. Does have quite a bit of traffic of people passing thru town though. This wasn't Aurora or even close. I drove by a bus stop at about 4:15 am. Sitting on the bench was a VERY pretty and young looking girl. I thought to myself, nah no way she's looking for dates. I kept driving. I was about to get on the highway and go home when I decided to turn around and give it a shot. You miss 100% of the shots you don't take. Protip: repeat that to yourself if you need some courage to ask a girl out and / or talk to them wherever they are at in this world. I drove through some back streets to avoid going down the main road and having to pull a you turn in front of her. I don't like to scare civilians! I pulled up at the bus stop and I see she is extremely pretty and young looking! I say "hey do you know where the nearest mc'donalds is?" and she says huh? I repeat it as she's coming up to my window. She gives me kind of a funny look "uhh try google maps" at this point I'm thinking to myself fuck. I say to her "I can't its bugged out! She then looks at me and says "Do you want me to show you?" I say "sure!" and she hesitates for a few moments before getting in my car. I pull a you turn to head to the mcdonald's but I'm thinking in my head wait I just don't her I don't know where it is. I then proceed to tell her that I know where it is and I just wanted to talk to her. She replied "I know".
I think she discreetly told me she was working. I don't remember how she said it. I got the memo though and I told her hey do you want to go to my house? She said sure. I have to tell you at this point I am still a bit nervous because she is so young and so pretty. She told me she was 19. I drove back to my house and we made nice small talk on the way. When we got inside I got her a white claw and we saw down on my couch where she proceeded to cuddle up next to me. She put her head close to mine and we both went in for a kiss and made out for a good 10 minutes on my couch. She hopped on top of me a few minutes in. She was just so gorgeous. To make it a long story short I took her to the bedroom and we did more cuddling this time naked and I ate her pussy out and after a lot more foreplay I fucked her doggy style (no condom) and pretty quickly bust a nut inside her! She was breath takingly pretty and an unbelievable lover. It was as if she was my gf.
She showered after we had sex and we talked. I asked her if I could be her sugar daddy. She said she would think about it. That she had some loose ends to tie up. She added me on her snapchat on my phone because she didn't have her phone with her. I am still waiting for her to accept.
I know she isn't an angel and has some issues. She told me she is in town to visit some friends in jail. She told me she is from Federal Way area. When I asked her before I got to my house cashapp or cash? She said cash and I drove to the atm where she told me she wanted 80! I was like thinking to myself damn this girl has absolutely no self esteem! I told her I would give her more. I knew then and there this girl had some issues if she's charging that low. Or maybe something else was LOW if you know what I mean. Not going to elaborate on that though. She had an unbelievable butt and tits. When I grabbed her ass for the first time. The skin felt totally different from any other girl I've been with in the past 2 years. It was very smooth and tight feeling. I don't know how else to describe it. The skin just felt so amazing in a way that I can honestly say I haven't felt before. She had a nice bubble butt and nice tits. Just the whole package and she had an amazing smile with very very white teeth. The issue with her though I noticed was after having sex and she was sitting on my couch in a towel after taking a shower. That there was cuts all over her forearms where she was VERY CLEARLY cutting herself. I mean LOTS and lots of cut marks. It was actually kind of scary. I looked around her body and saw other cut marks else where too. But mainly her forearms. I thought about saying something. But I didn't want to embarrass her. She must really be going through some serious pain, I've never in my life seen something like this. I felt so bad for her and then realized why she was loving the cuddling so much. Clearly this girl wasn't loved as a kid or something really bad happen to her and needed my love just as much as I needed hers.
Another thing that made me wonder about something. When she told me how old she was. She then asked me and I said "guess" she guessed 25! Which is between 10-15 years off. I don't know if she was just trying to flatter me or it was something else entirely. I said "You are pretty close" and she kind of seemed happy. Most girls that I've picked up guess around 30 and many have told me I have good skin. Who really knows but I thought it a bit odd.
I went out searching for her this morning but didn't see her. She may have gone back to Federal Way. I genuinely dreamt all night about this girl. I feel almost like a simp now she was that pretty.
Michael1967
09-23-23, 19:34
The issue with her though I noticed was after having sex and she was sitting on my couch in a towel after taking a shower. That there was cuts all over her forearms where she was VERY CLEARLY cutting herself. I mean LOTS and lots of cut marks. It was actually kind of scary. I looked around her body and saw other cut marks else where too. But mainly her forearms. I thought about saying something. But I didn't want to embarrass her. She must really be going through some serious pain, I've never in my life seen something like this.My oldest daughter was a cutter. If you're interested in the reasoning behind it, take some time to look it up. It's much more common amongst female teenagers than people think. When I first found out about it, I was freaked out about it. I made a big deal about it and it got worse. I spoke to a counselor about it and they told me that it occurs with teenagers that have a lot of pain they eventually grow out of it and not to make it an issue.
My ex-wife was a heroin addict and basically left my daughters alone to fend for themselves starting around the age of six. My oldest daughter at 6 would take care of my youngest daughter while their mother wasn't there or was passed out somewhere. I think I mentioned it here, but after I got custody of my daughters, there was one day that I was bitching that I didn't have any gas or money to buy gas (I did, but not much money). My daughters at 12 and 11 went out and came back with gas. Their mother had taught them how to siphon gas from people's cars at the age of 8 and 7. For me, there were months on end where she refused to allow me to see the kids and generally once I filed court papers demanding that I see them, I would see them. Then six months later, same thing would happen again. When my oldest was 11, I got custody of them and though I was a great father and took very good care of both of my daughters, my oldest still had issues. She stopped cutting around 17 and the scars finally disappeared when she was about 21 ish. Until then, she wore long sleeved clothing wherever she went.
She's 30 now and makes about $100 K / year. My youngest is 28 makes about $150 K / year (and doesn't live in Seattle). So, while the cutting is scary looking, people can still live normal lives once they get past it.
My oldest daughter was a cutter. If you're interested in the reasoning behind it, take some time to look it up. It's much more common amongst female teenagers than people think. When I first found out about it, I was freaked out about it. I made a big deal about it and it got worse. I spoke to a counselor about it and they told me that it occurs with teenagers that have a lot of pain they eventually grow out of it and not to make it an issue.
My ex-wife was a heroin addict and basically left my daughters alone to fend for themselves starting around the age of six. My oldest daughter at 6 would take care of my youngest daughter while their mother wasn't there or was passed out somewhere. I think I mentioned it here, but after I got custody of my daughters, there was one day that I was bitching that I didn't have any gas or money to buy gas (I did, but not much money). My daughters at 12 and 11 went out and came back with gas. Their mother had taught them how to siphon gas from people's cars at the age of 8 and 7. For me, there were months on end where she refused to allow me to see the kids and generally once I filed court papers demanding that I see them, I would see them. Then six months later, same thing would happen again. When my oldest was 11, I got custody of them and though I was a great father and took very good care of both of my daughters, my oldest still had issues. She stopped cutting around 17 and the scars finally disappeared when she was about 21 ish. Until then, she wore long sleeved clothing wherever she went.
She's 30 now and makes about $100 K / year. My youngest is 28 makes about $150 K / year (and doesn't live in Seattle). So, while the cutting is scary looking, people can still live normal lives once they get past it.That's good to hear your daughters are doing good now! I hope this girl makes it too. It's scary to hear about this being a common thing amongst teens. I actually remember a girl back when I was in HS that was a cutter. That was the last time I actually have known anybody who was or even heard about it. That was a long time ago too These were some pretty deep looking cuts and a lot of them. She needed some love that night just as much as I did.
YungCheese
09-24-23, 03:21
Your inbox full bro.
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DukeDraper
09-25-23, 14:15
Sweet. I live in fed way. I'll be sure to keep an eye out 👀.
I went out yesterday morning at about 4 am. I didn't feel like it, but I was in the mood to just drive around. I went to a stretch of road near my house that sometimes has street walkers, most of the time not though. Does have quite a bit of traffic of people passing thru town though. This wasn't Aurora or even close. I drove by a bus stop at about 4:15 am. Sitting on the bench was a VERY pretty and young looking girl. I thought to myself, nah no way she's looking for dates. I kept driving. I was about to get on the highway and go home when I decided to turn around and give it a shot. You miss 100% of the shots you don't take. Protip: repeat that to yourself if you need some courage to ask a girl out and / or talk to them wherever they are at in this world. I drove through some back streets to avoid going down the main road and having to pull a you turn in front of her. I don't like to scare civilians! I pulled up at the bus stop and I see she is extremely pretty and young looking! I say "hey do you know where the nearest mc'donalds is?" and she says huh? I repeat it as she's coming up to my window. She gives me kind of a funny look "uhh try google maps" at this point I'm thinking to myself fuck. I say to her "I can't its bugged out! She then looks at me and says "Do you want me to show you?" I say "sure!" and she hesitates for a few moments before getting in my car. I pull a you turn to head to the mcdonald's but I'm thinking in my head wait I just don't her I don't know where it is. I then proceed to tell her that I know where it is and I just wanted to talk to her. She replied "I know".
I think she discreetly told me she was working. I don't remember how she said it. I got the memo though and I told her hey do you want to go to my house? She said sure. I have to tell you at this point I am still a bit nervous because she is so young and so pretty. She told me she was 19. I drove back to my house and we made nice small talk on the way. When we got inside I got her a white claw and we saw down on my couch where she proceeded to cuddle up next to me. She put her head close to mine and we both went in for a kiss and made out for a good 10 minutes on my couch. She hopped on top of me a few minutes in. She was just so gorgeous. To make it a long story short I took her to the bedroom and we did more cuddling this time naked and I ate her pussy out and after a lot more foreplay I fucked her doggy style (no condom) and pretty quickly bust a nut inside her! She was breath takingly pretty and an unbelievable lover. It was as if she was my gf.
She showered after we had sex and we talked. I asked her if I could be her sugar daddy. She said she would think about it. That she had some loose ends to tie up. She added me on her snapchat on my phone because she didn't have her phone with her. I am still waiting for her to accept.
I know she isn't an angel and has some issues. She told me she is in town to visit some friends in jail. She told me she is from Federal Way area. When I asked her before I got to my house cashapp or cash? She said cash and I drove to the atm where she told me she wanted 80! I was like thinking to myself damn this girl has absolutely no self esteem! I told her I would give her more. I knew then and there this girl had some issues if she's charging that low. Or maybe something else was LOW if you know what I mean. Not going to elaborate on that though. She had an unbelievable butt and tits. When I grabbed her ass for the first time. The skin felt totally different from any other girl I've been with in the past 2 years. It was very smooth and tight feeling. I don't know how else to describe it. The skin just felt so amazing in a way that I can honestly say I haven't felt before. She had a nice bubble butt and nice tits. Just the whole package and she had an amazing smile with very very white teeth. The issue with her though I noticed was after having sex and she was sitting on my couch in a towel after taking a shower. That there was cuts all over her forearms where she was VERY CLEARLY cutting herself. I mean LOTS and lots of cut marks. It was actually kind of scary. I looked around her body and saw other cut marks else where too. But mainly her forearms. I thought about saying something. But I didn't want to embarrass her. She must really be going through some serious pain, I've never in my life seen something like this. I felt so bad for her and then realized why she was loving the cuddling so much. Clearly this girl wasn't loved as a kid or something really bad happen to her and needed my love just as much as I needed hers.
Another thing that made me wonder about something. When she told me how old she was. She then asked me and I said "guess" she guessed 25! Which is between 10-15 years off. I don't know if she was just trying to flatter me or it was something else entirely. I said "You are pretty close" and she kind of seemed happy. Most girls that I've picked up guess around 30 and many have told me I have good skin. Who really knows but I thought it a bit odd.
I went out searching for her this morning but didn't see her. She may have gone back to Federal Way. I genuinely dreamt all night about this girl. I feel almost like a simp now she was that pretty.
TheSteelHead
09-25-23, 15:54
My oldest daughter was a cutter. If you're interested in the reasoning behind it, take some time to look it up. It's much more common amongst female teenagers than people think. When I first found out about it, I was freaked out about it. I made a big deal about it and it got worse. I spoke to a counselor about it and they told me that it occurs with teenagers that have a lot of pain they eventually grow out of it and not to make it an issue.
My ex-wife was a heroin addict and basically left my daughters alone to fend for themselves starting around the age of six. My oldest daughter at 6 would take care of my youngest daughter while their mother wasn't there or was passed out somewhere. I think I mentioned it here, but after I got custody of my daughters, there was one day that I was bitching that I didn't have any gas or money to buy gas (I did, but not much money). My daughters at 12 and 11 went out and came back with gas. Their mother had taught them how to siphon gas from people's cars at the age of 8 and 7. For me, there were months on end where she refused to allow me to see the kids and generally once I filed court papers demanding that I see them, I would see them. Then six months later, same thing would happen again. When my oldest was 11, I got custody of them and though I was a great father and took very good care of both of my daughters, my oldest still had issues. She stopped cutting around 17 and the scars finally disappeared when she was about 21 ish. Until then, she wore long sleeved clothing wherever she went.
She's 30 now and makes about $100 K / year. My youngest is 28 makes about $150 K / year (and doesn't live in Seattle). So, while the cutting is scary looking, people can still live normal lives once they get past it.I've seen other providers with scars clearly from cutting.
It stands to reason that many providers had unhappy childhoods. (Not saying that all cutters become providers).
DukeDraper
09-25-23, 19:17
Sweet. I live in fed way. I'll be sure to keep an eye out 👀.Federal Way Police PSA:
We are getting increased reports of suspicious middle aged men in non-descript vehicles approaching underaged minors traveling alone at bus stops. Please report any suspicious activity to law enforcement.
😝.
Not really related to the below, but I do have some data from King County regarding prostitution-related busts and arrests. This is different than the SPD file which I got last week. I haven't really dived into it the King County data yet, but there are some regular areas in which police seem to arrest more than one suspected john, lot of spots along 99 in Kent into Fed Way, SeaTac, etc. They list the block number of each arrest which is handy, if they get more than a few in a specific block then I assume that is the result of a sting and from what I see police have a tendency to use the same spots over and over and over again. I find it useful because it can highlight areas in which to be cautious, but that's just me. I'm a data guy and find all intelligence useful in some way. If you guys find it interesting I can post it, perhaps start a different sub-forum.
Federal Way Police PSA:
We are getting increased reports of suspicious middle aged men in non-descript vehicles approaching underaged minors traveling alone at bus stops. Please report any suspicious activity to law enforcement.
😝.
Sweet. I live in fed way. I'll be sure to keep an eye out 👀.Yea. You do that. She has been at my house You won't find her.
Yea. You do that. She has been at my house You won't find her.You are letting someone you met on the street, who you admit has possible issues, to stay at your house. You really need to think that decision through. There is 101 ways this can go wrong. I hope you are okay, but man, this is not a good idea.
You are letting someone you met on the street, who you admit has possible issues, to stay at your house. You really need to think that decision through. There is 101 ways this can go wrong. I hope you are okay, but man, this is not a good idea.She works for me now.
I've noticed that SWs are starting to bunch-up in larger groups at the Lowe's lot again, particularly on weeknights during the normal evening commute drive. Just a reminder that this is the main location where SPD has been doing stings this past year, according to data they really haven't targeted any other areas along Aurora in 2023. Thus far 2023 is the second-highest year for john-related arrests since 2019 and we still have a couple of months to go. Further, ALL of theses busts have been on weeknights during the evening commute time. You'll want to be careful when talking to SWs in that lot, if you see someone you just can't resist, it might not be a bad idea to park away from the action first and observe for a while. I saw a huge line of guys lined-up for the SW parade in that very lot when I went by and with girls leaning into windows having a chat, so there are a lot of candidates to make SPD's job easy. Better yet, avoid that lot altogether.
MongerSeeker
09-28-23, 13:43
I agree, parking and observing is a very good way to see what LE is up to. Sometimes if am uncertain what the situation is I will park and observe.
I've noticed that SWs are starting to bunch-up in larger groups at the Lowe's lot again, particularly on weeknights during the normal evening commute drive. Just a reminder that this is the main location where SPD has been doing stings this past year, according to data they really haven't targeted any other areas along Aurora in 2023. Thus far 2023 is the second-highest year for john-related arrests since 2019 and we still have a couple of months to go. Further, ALL of theses busts have been on weeknights during the evening commute time. You'll want to be careful when talking to SWs in that lot, if you see someone you just can't resist, it might not be a bad idea to park away from the action first and observe for a while. I saw a huge line of guys lined-up for the SW parade in that very lot when I went by and with girls leaning into windows having a chat, so there are a lot of candidates to make SPD's job easy. Better yet, avoid that lot altogether.
I wasn't going to get involved in this, but the below is so true. Years ago when I was newer to the scene I got to know a guy older than myself, newly divorced, who went on a bender with providers after his marriage split. He went at it like a man who had been truly liberated and went overboard. He would sometimes move providers into his house, let them borrow his car, etc. One stole his checkbook and wrote several thousand in checks and his bank called and alerted him. Another stole his coin collection and also started hosting tricks over at his house while he was at work. He came home early one day and a stranger walked out of her room and encountered him in his hallway. When he confronted her she got crazy and up in his face, telling him that she wasn't leaving and daring him to assault her. He had a hell of a time getting her out of his house as she had been there longer than 60 days. And yet another provider took-off with his restored classic car for two weeks while she relapsed and went on a crack binge. For some reason he had lent it to her to use, something which I'll never understand. He couldn't find her and she finally called and told him that his car was in Yakima. This was all back in the mid-late 00s and the providers were all from both TNA and TRB (the more "upscale" board at the time). After that experience I generally stopped associating with anyone unless it was via PM, no more socializing.
Myself, I don't live too far from AA and in the very distant past I have brought one or two SWs over. That ended when one showed-up twice unannounced, each time in a seeming panic for money, both times with her little dog of which I was definitely not a fan. She was always someone I got along with but of course I didn't really truly know her, she admitted she was bi-polar and man she could get into some strange headspace and surprising moods.
I think anyone who has been in this scene long enough has some stories. I'd like to say that I've (mostly) learned from others in this regard, but even then I let it slip just a bit. Most people just have to find out for themselves, man.
You are letting someone you met on the street, who you admit has possible issues, to stay at your house. You really need to think that decision through. There is 101 ways this can go wrong
I wasn't going to get involved in this, but the below is so true. Years ago when I was newer to the scene I got to know a guy older than myself, newly divorced, who went on a bender with providers after his marriage split. He went at it like a man who had been truly liberated and went overboard. He would sometimes move providers into his house, let them borrow his car, etc. One stole his checkbook and wrote several thousand in checks and his bank called and alerted him. Another stole his coin collection and also started hosting tricks over at his house while he was at work. He came home early one day and a stranger walked out of her room and encountered him in his hallway. When he confronted her she got crazy and up in his face, telling him that she wasn't leaving and daring him to assault her. He had a hell of a time getting her out of his house as she had been there longer than 60 days. And yet another provider took-off with his restored classic car for two weeks while she relapsed and went on a crack binge. For some reason he had lent it to her to use, something which I'll never understand. He couldn't find her and she finally called and told him that his car was in Yakima. This was all back in the mid-late 00s and the providers were all from both TNA and TRB (the more "upscale" board at the time). After that experience I generally stopped associating with anyone unless it was via PM, no more socializing.
Myself, I don't live too far from AA and in the very distant past I have brought one or two SWs over. That ended when one showed-up twice unannounced, each time in a seeming panic for money, both times with her little dog of which I was definitely not a fan. She was always someone I got along with but of course I didn't really truly know her, she admitted she was bi-polar and man she could get into some strange headspace and surprising moods.
I think anyone who has been in this scene long enough has some stories. I'd like to say that I've (mostly) learned from others in this regard, but even then I let it slip just a bit. Most people just have to find out for themselves, man.Yeah, there was a documentary made about this very subject back in the 80's, a little film called "Risky Business", starring everyone's favorite psycho Scientologist, Tom Cruise.
NewMonger972
09-28-23, 19:52
How are people getting busted in these stings?
Is it always an undercover female officers posing as a SW that's getting people arrested? Maybe somebody can pull up the roster of all the female officers so people can know which to avoid.
Is it regular non LEO SW's working in cooperation with the police? Not sure if this is legal and the girls would have to wearing a mic for evidence. But since they dress with so little clothes, there's no way they could achieve this.
Don't you have to specifically mention sex / BJ to be arrested for soliciting? If you pull up to a girl and she asks if you want a date, and you say yes, then she just says $100 and nothing more, that's technically not against the law since no sexual act was solicited. I feel like mongers should secretly record the conversations and be careful with words just in case you encounter an undercover.
Or does anyone have a good way to sniff out undercover cops?
Michael1967
09-28-23, 22:52
You are letting someone you met on the street, who you admit has possible issues, to stay at your house. You really need to think that decision through. There is 101 ways this can go wrong. I hope you are okay, but man, this is not a good idea.You can't fix stupid. Many years ago, when I picked up SWs and take them to my place. I regularly had shit stolen. The worst part was that even after they stole shit, they'd show back up a day or two later hoping to get a second helping and always denying that they stole something in the first place.
One thing I did a few months back was have a consultation with a lawyer who specializes in these types of cases just so that I could educate myself about how this works should I get popped. I think a lot of us out there, myself included, think we know more than we really do in this regard. What I was told was that female undercovers don't wear recording devices during stings. Because of this, he told me that a lot of lawyers highly-suspect that they use what he called "forceful techniques". Proving entrapment is very difficult and an officer's police report is usually golden in these matters. I asked the question regarding recording the interaction myself, he said that it's not a bad idea however it might not be admissable in court. So you roll the dice on that one. Each and every case is different, though, so that's one thing to keep in mind. The other thing is that in Seattle, the city almost never convicts anyone for this crime, instead they use it for educational purposes and put the alleged john into a program. After that, charges are usually dropped. But from what he said it's difficult to fight this charge.
Regarding the use of SWs as decoys, that never occurred to me to ask that question. He did say that SPD are usually quick and lazy (his words) about the process and don't put a lot of thought into it. They go out, quickly nab a handful of guys and go on with their other duties. So based upon that i'm not sure they'd spend the time recruiting SWs to work for them against johns. I'd think that if they did that, they'd go for higher targets such as pimps or traffickers. The charge of patronizing, or Sexual Exploitation as Seattle calls it, is one of the lowest misdemeanors one can catch, so they don't put much effort into it. That's just my thought on the matter though, so take that for what it is. Examining the arrest data yields that prior to 2019 they only had a handful of arrests for patronizing each year starting in 2016. In 2019 they had 86 arrests, and since then they've averaged just over 20 or so arrests each year. We're at 33 for this year. I'm not sure that finding SWs to work with them is worth the effort for those numbers when they can just nail a bunch of guys in a couple of hours.
Don't take my word for it, go get some legal advice yourself. You might ask better questions than I did. Just passing along what I learned.
How are people getting busted in these stings?
Is it always an undercover female officers posing as a SW that's getting people arrested? Maybe somebody can pull up the roster of all the female officers so people can know which to avoid.
Is it regular non LEO SW's working in cooperation with the police? Not sure if this is legal and the girls would have to wearing a mic for evidence. But since they dress with so little clothes, there's no way they could achieve this.
Don't you have to specifically mention sex / BJ to be arrested for soliciting? If you pull up to a girl and she asks if you want a date, and you say yes, then she just says $100 and nothing more, that's technically not against the law since no sexual act was solicited. I feel like mongers should secretly record the conversations and be careful with words just in case you encounter an undercover.
Or does anyone have a good way to sniff out undercover cops?
She works for me now.I sure hope you hired her as a secretary. If you mean works for you in the same profession you met in, you are not thinking straight. There are very high jail sentences connected to that type of employer. I know you feel you can handle yourself, you can't. Just trying drop some knowledge. The managers in this game are vicious. If one of them turns her and tells her to set you up, she will do it. Think this through.
The managers in this game are vicious. If one of them turns her and tells her to set you up, she will do it. Think this through.This is the part that is discouraging. We discussed this during our meet. I asked the provider why don't you just tell them to F off or get lost the way you would me like if I asked to go bare or something that you didn't appreciate.
She told me that if she makes eye contact with a guy trying to recruit her then he will just keep coming at her and keep bothering her and keep interacting with her and keep finding her and keep talking to her and keep looking at her and keep track of what she's doing and. You get the idea.
This is why they have issues and eventually do what one of these guy wants.
I'm trained to respect someone else's boundaries and these SWs and "managers" know this and take advantage and have similar outlooks on humanity with each other.
Really, a SW isn't going to file charges for harassment against a recruiter and these managers are okay being a cuckold when they get a part of the $ action.
Michael1967
09-29-23, 15:45
This is the part that is discouraging. We discussed this during our meet. I asked the provider why don't you just tell them to F off or get lost the way you would me like if I asked to go bare or something that you didn't appreciate.
She told me that if she makes eye contact with a guy trying to recruit her then he will just keep coming at her and keep bothering her and keep interacting with her and keep finding her and keep talking to her and keep looking at her and keep track of what she's doing and. You get the idea.
This is why they have issues and eventually do what one of these guy wants.
I'm trained to respect someone else's boundaries and these SWs and "managers" know this and take advantage and have similar outlooks on humanity with each other.
Really, a SW isn't going to file charges for harassment against a recruiter and these managers are okay being a cuckold when they get a part of the $ action.Many, many years ago (late 90's), I came across a pimp beating up one of his girls in Denny Park. I made the mistake of thinking I was going to stop it. Pimps are some ruthless motherfuckers (I guess you have to be if you want to make money at it). I didn't get hurt but he could have killed me if he wanted. Even the hooker, was looking at me like, "you done fucked up". I would not even consider messing with one again.
When begging for your life.. just remember, "it's Mr. Pimp, SIR."
Actually decided to go for a cruise later Thursday night for the first time in a while. Intent wasn't to meet anyone, just observe and see what was happening. Quite a few girls out, seemed to be hardly any traffic and it was almost eerily quiet on AA. Absolutely zero girls in the Lowe's lot nor 127th which to me was strange since the last time I went through that area there were several. Quite a few at 137th and at one point counted 10 girls all standing at an intersection in the 100 blocks across from Oaktree plaza and gabbing with each other. That was sort of funny because whenever a driver came through he or she had to swerve way over to get past all of the gabbing girls as they made no attempt to move out of the intersection. Some nice looking SWs out, not much in the way of men looking for a date it seemed. I drove up a side street toward Aurora and encountered two SWs, one larger brunette in a miniskirt and her very hot blonde friend, also in a very tight, short white mini. The brunette was immediately at my window and asked if I wanted two girls for $200. I declined that offer as only the blonde was to my liking and also I really don't like two SWs in my vehicle, I've had trouble with that scenario in the past and I was suspect of the low rate for two girls. Just seemed like a good scam scenario. Of course she then asked why I didn't want two girls and what was wrong with me as if I were less than a man for not wanting two chicks. That pissed me off so I told her that I wanted BB which I knew they weren't going to provide. They both immediately recoiled and turned away. I knew that would do the trick as it usually does when I'm trying to get away from an SW. I got stuck waiting for some traffic so I couldn't just hit the gas.
But other than that pretty empty. Felt like all the girls out there were just for me. I was about to call it quits and head home and while doing so went down another side street and encountered a nice spinner wearing a thong, great little body on her. She said she knew me and hopped right in, but I had no idea who she was. She said she remembered what I liked which was all bare service. She quoted a really high rate, like $400, I said "wow, I've never paid that much, ever. You have me confused with someone else" (which honestly, she did, i'd never ever seen her before). She then immediately and drastically dropped the rate. She said that it was more important to get the date and the money as it's been very slow out there lately. Apparently came up from Portland were police action has been crazy and she's not making any money. She was maybe 5' 2', very slender spinner, Latina, dark hair bundled-up onto the top of her head. She was very friendly, good service, I'm definitely doing that again. Not sure for how long she'll be here.
Regarding the action in Portland, she told me that there have been several john stings lately and apparently several girls were stung as well. A quick look of the Portland section seems to confirm some of this activity. Also, today I got a couple of texts from SWs I'd met who are working Portland and are coming up to Seattle this weekend. Both said they weren't coming back to Seattle when I'd met them previously because they said there is no money up here. So it seems as though the ladies are in a money crunch, might be a good time to get some goodies. One additional interesting note is that she also said that SWs are indeed attempting to self-regulate the scene against anyone requesting or performing anything BB. She's very quiet about it and won't agree to anything uncovered if other girls are around. When I asked what would happen if she did, she said she might be cornered and jumped by other girls. She also said they're attempting to track guys who ask for it, however that works. I certainly have noticed more hostility lately whenever I ask for it, but the funny part of all of this is that i'm also having a lot more luck finding it and with hot young SWs, too. Who knows, who cares, whatever. These bitches will never be able to control nor prevent anyone from doing anything.
I have went out cruising around noon for the past three days to see what's out there during the daylight hours. Boy have I been surprised to find almost absolutely nothing. Only a few girls each time I went out. I expected there to be more, esp because it was really a pretty fall day yesterday. Total waste of time. Will stick to only going up there at night. Too much traffic during the day makes it difficult anyways even if you see a girl that you like just to make a you-turn.
Any sighting of Barbie lately? No matter how cold or wet she will be in skirt with no pantyhose. If you drive close enough you can see goosebumps.
CamelToe2000
10-03-23, 02:14
They're not going to use SWs, but they'll often do stings as an interagency effort. So even if you did somehow memorize the faces of every female cop in SPD, that might not help you.
I also definitely wouldn't rely on semantics to save you. As long as money is mentioned, the solicitation of sex part doesn't need to be explicit. Courts that deal with this have heard every euphemism you can think of and a thousand more. If you were willing to go the distance and fight the charges right down to a jury trial, then maaaybe those technicalities could help down the line. But as far as in the sting, if there's any mention of money at all they are going to put you in cuffs and let the legal system sort it out later, in which case your day / night is ruined in a hurry anyway. They know that the vast majority of guys are going to plead into their john diversion program anyway.
How are people getting busted in these stings?
Is it always an undercover female officers posing as a SW that's getting people arrested? Maybe somebody can pull up the roster of all the female officers so people can know which to avoid.
Is it regular non LEO SW's working in cooperation with the police? Not sure if this is legal and the girls would have to wearing a mic for evidence. But since they dress with so little clothes, there's no way they could achieve this.
Don't you have to specifically mention sex / BJ to be arrested for soliciting? If you pull up to a girl and she asks if you want a date, and you say yes, then she just says $100 and nothing more, that's technically not against the law since no sexual act was solicited. I feel like mongers should secretly record the conversations and be careful with words just in case you encounter an undercover.
Or does anyone have a good way to sniff out undercover cops?
Just a heads up. There was a prostitution sting operation in the KK parking lot on Sept 28th. They arrested 5 johns in the early evening.
I'm just going to reiterate here, the ONLY spot in which SPD have done stings this year is in the KK / Lowe's lot. According to the arrest data which I have, In prior years they'd vary their locations (usually 135th area or the 100 blocks), but not this year. I'm going to repeat this until you're all sick to death of it, but stay the fuck out of that lot. Once you're in that lot undercovers will approach you, not always the other way around, and once they engage and mention money, you're hosed. I don't care if you believe that it's entrapment, let me tell you they're doing it, and there's no recourse for getting out of it once you're engaged. Just stay the fuck out of there.
Just a heads up. There was a prostitution sting operation in the KK parking lot on Sept 28th. They arrested 5 johns in the early evening.I did find a story about a sting on 6/28 that netted 7. Does anyone have the story from 9/28?
In addition to all of that, here's an interesting piece:
https://www.kuow.org/stories/two-teenagers-arrested-in-seattle-human-trafficking-case
Of course, NPR may be considered bias, but some of the content seems believable about the pimp, Lexo, the 17 and 19 year old suspects and the 18 year old victim from Texas who just happens to have her Dad living in Seattle. CT must have been her trainer.
(Meant to post in Rants, Raves, and Stupid Shit) (oops)
I did find a story about a sting on 6/28 that netted 7.There is no story. This comes from SPD's crime dashboard. They don't do media shit for there stings. Why don't know. You think if they really wanted to deter John's from going out there they would send out a press release to the media every sting and brag about the guys they busted. They don't though. It's a money making operation for them.
They actually did do a press release for the sting on very late June. They patted themselves on the back for going after trafficking after busting seven johns. Meanwhile, SWs still walk and work Aurora three months later.
There is no story. This comes from SPD's crime dashboard. They don't do media shit for there stings. Why don't know. You think if they really wanted to deter John's from going out there they would send out a press release to the media every sting and brag about the guys they busted. They don't though. It's a money making operation for them.
A few nights ago around midnight I decided to do an actual cruise like I used to do since I haven't been out there much lately. Most of the girls were on the large to flat-out fat side. There were quite a few out, just not any to my liking at all. I talked to none of them, though a few were pretty aggressive whenever I pulled-up to a corner, knocking at my window and peering in at me. Absolutely zero of the girls appealed to me on that night. I've really about had it with Aurora anyway these past few months, honestly. I've only been seeing regulars and even that's something in which I'm interested less often these days.
A few nights ago around midnight I decided to do an actual cruise like I used to do since I haven't been out there much lately. Most of the girls were on the large to flat-out fat side. There were quite a few out, just not any to my liking at all. I talked to none of them, though a few were pretty aggressive whenever I pulled-up to a corner, knocking at my window and peering in at me. Absolutely zero of the girls appealed to me on that night. I've really about had it with Aurora anyway these past few months, honestly. I've only been seeing regulars and even that's something in which I'm interested less often these days.Typical Seattle women. I bet they had a hairy smelly Bush tho!
2 pm.
Only 4 streetwalkers out.
2 by lowes / firestone.
2 walking together in front of Burgerking.
Nothing South of 125th to 85th.
2 pm.
Only 4 streetwalkers out.
2 by lowes / firestone.
2 walking together in front of Burgerking.
Nothing South of 125th to 85th.Aye. That was my experience the 3 days I went out last week in the afternoon. There was no girls out at all. The one night I did go out there last it was a bunch of fatties like a week ago.
Saturday evening at around 8 I saw about 12 total SWs from 90th to 137th. A cluster at 137th, another at Lowes parking. Some were seen around 100-105th. From there down to 85th there were 2-3 in addition.
Saw a asw at 107th and 2 SW by lowes. 3 pm.
Saw a asw at 107th and 2 SW by lowes. 3 pm.I think that Asian may have a dick.
I've mainly been dating a few of my regulars, most of whom I'd met over two years ago. They all say that money has been coming slowly out there. One dropped her rate just to push me over into seeing her. Other girls with whom I've casually chatted at corners while waiting for traffic to clear have also said that it's been slow whenever I ask how things are out there lately. I'm not sure if it's due to most girls not having rooms since the motels were slapped with nuisance orders in August, high rates and low service offerings or a combination (probably the latter), but it seems they've all been hit a bit harder. But the slower money seems to be thinning the herd a bit. We'll see if it lasts and to where it goes.
Saturday evening at around 8 I saw about 12 total SWs from 90th to 137th. A cluster at 137th, another at Lowes parking. Some were seen around 100-105th. From there down to 85th there were 2-3 in addition.
CoronaLime
10-08-23, 22:17
Saw a asw at 107th and 2 SW by lowes. 3 pm.Maybe they all go to church.
FYI. Watch-out for entitled SWs getting aggressive if they don't get what they want. Recently I was driving from the house up a side-street to Aurora so that I could get somewhere, zero intent of cruising nor looking for a date at all. I encountered a few hookers, as one does in that general area, standing on the corner, none of whom I'd seen before so nobody familiar. One girl was a big fattie in red lingerie and long brown hair with blonde streaks who was standing in the middle of the road blocking the intersection and wouldn't move so that I could get through. I waved her out of the way and she decided to ask if I wanted a date and again I waved her out of the way. I had to veer very slowly all the way over onto the curb to get past her. While passing she came to the passenger window (which was rolled-up) and asked if I wanted a date and I told her to get out of the road. She then punched my window with her fist. That pissed me off so I rolled-down the window and asked what her problem was and to get her dumb *****-ass out of the middle of the street. She said, with a straight face and as much pride as she could muster, "I'm not a w***e, I'm a PROSTITUTE". That caused me to erupt in laughter. I said, "oh yes, you're soooo high-class out here on Aurora like a beaten-up used car among the tent-palaces of the homeless. If your brains were in your ass you'd be fucking brilliant, because your ass is huuuuuge". Of course she wanted to argue at that point, they always fucking do, I told her there was no money here so she should stop wasting her time. Nothing good ever comes from arguing with a hooker so I hit the gas when traffic cleared, but I almost came around to snap her photo and call the non-emergency line to make an anonymous report but then I thought better of that. City isn't going to do a god damn thing, the girls can do no wrong in their eyes.
While approaching the corner my windows were up, I made no move to indicate that I wanted her attention much less a date (she was fat and gross), I simply wanted her to move her fat ass out of the way. I live in the area, my neighbors constantly complain about how aggressive the SWs have been lately and if they don't get any attention or response they get pissed and try to start trouble. They block intersections. Lately it seems as if SWs want to interrogate me if I tell them I don't want a date, they all want me to explain myself. Last week one of my regulars told me that she witnessed an SW pepper-spraying a man as she stood outside negotiating at his window, apparently they couldn't agree on price so she let him have it (DISCLAIMER: SWs say all kinds of wacky shit out there and I wasn't there so who knows what's true, but in this case I'm prone to believe it). The city has allowed them to act with impunity the past few years and that sense of entitlement is really coming to a head. As a person who also lives in the area I'm getting sick and god damn tired of that. They think they own the streets and that every man out there is for them.
So watch your asses. I keep hearing about how they aren't making any money out there so they're getting aggressive when you don't play along. Watch the pepper spray and other shit.
FYI. Watch-out for entitled SWs getting aggressive if they don't get what they want. Recently I was driving from the house up a side-street to Aurora so that I could get somewhere, zero intent of cruising nor looking for a date at all. I encountered a few hookers, as one does in that general area, standing on the corner, none of whom I'd seen before so nobody familiar. One girl was a big fattie in red lingerie and long brown hair with blonde streaks who was standing in the middle of the road blocking the intersection and wouldn't move so that I could get through. I waved her out of the way and she decided to ask if I wanted a date and again I waved her out of the way. I had to veer very slowly all the way over onto the curb to get past her. While passing she came to the passenger window (which was rolled-up) and asked if I wanted a date and I told her to get out of the road. She then punched my window with her fist. That pissed me off so I rolled-down the window and asked what her problem was and to get her dumb *****-ass out of the middle of the street. She said, with a straight face and as much pride as she could muster, "I'm not a w***e, I'm a PROSTITUTE"..I wouldn't doubt the pepper spray thing at all. The one and only time I actually cruised around the day light and talked to some hookers was over the summer and I noticed as she was walking away she had a pepper spray canister with strap around her hand.
Why would you want to call the police on a victim? These girls are all victims Hoballer. They need our help and compassion. She was probably just having a bad day you should have given her whatever you had on her and told her god bless.
LOL, that's actually funny. I did have a moment of clarity after I calmed down for a minute. But I do know for a fact that residents living around the area are starting to call and complain. Everyone has had it. This past spring a bunch of business owners banded together and insisted that SPD do something about all of the SWs out there, that the city's plan of going after buyers isn't working. Not too long after that the nuisance orders were issued for the motels. So I think that if enough residents get organized and approach the North Precinct and city council, something will be done. And we do have a new city council so we'll see what they do. When, who knows, but I think the girls out there should be careful about getting too cocky. When the hammer falls, it'll be a blood bath.
Why would you want to call the police on a victim? These girls are all victims Hoballer. They need our help and compassion. She was probably just having a bad day you should have given her whatever you had on her and told her god bless.
These girls are all victims Hoballer… She was probably just having a bad day …Many are under the influence a lot of times. They don't deserve to be understood for that, but helps to explain a propensity toward weird behavior.
Marko Ramius
10-11-23, 11:28
A lot of people are messed up. Especially these days, and especially people who are llving on the street.
One should expect messed up behavior and not be particularly surprised. TBH, I think in terms of worst case scenarios whenever I see a girl, especially one I haven't seen before. That may seem excessively paranoid but I don't want to end up Dead. Also a big reason I tend to find a few specific girls who demonstrate non-psycho behavior and stick with them.
I went cruising on AA for the first time in 2-3 weeks. There was about 7-8 girls out. It was pretty dead. Some of them were decently attractive. I pulled over and talked to maybe 4 or 5 and none of them would do BBBJ. I pulled over for an Asian girl at 127th st. She immediately said "200" and I said for what? She said for FS. I said I probably just wanted head and she said 120. I said without a condom? She kinda gave me a look and said no. As she was walking away I looked at her hands and saw her holding onto a pink can of pepper spray. This chic had a scowl that you won't forget. She looked just plain evil and looked like she would kill you and take pleasure doing it. I definitely would avoid this girl as she is probably the one who sprayed that guy. I have never seen a girl holding onto pepper spray before at night like that. We are all in our cars. I just have never seen it.
Note: Posted this in the wrong section earlier.
https://www.king5.com/article/news/crime/shootings-threaten-safety-north-seattleites-near-aurora-ave/281-98ae39c7-7084-4282-8d9f-e5db7d5c4719
"One couple who lives on Aurora Avenue North and North 103rd Street told KING 5 about the harrowing experience they had in their homes early Sunday. ".
This is the same block Lavish Rich was killed on as well as the same block the strip club is on / where all the pimps park there cars Infront. This may also be why it's so dead out there lately. Esp around this area.
I had a date with my most regular regular the other night, a gal who has been working AA a few nights every week for the past three years. She told me that whenever there are shootings on the blade that business very suddenly drops-off for one or two days. There have been a few incidents lately in the past couple of weeks and (she said) most girls out there are really having a hard time making their due. This makes some of them desperate which in turn makes them angry when johns stop to talk or drive by but decide not to date. The other thing is that the number of dates has declined since the city issued the nuisance orders on the motels in August and a lot of girls stopped having rooms for dating. Seems that a lot of the johns out there want a girl who has a room. Some are going as far north as Edmonds and into Snohomish county to get rooms and some guys just don't want to drive that far so they decline. I've heard similar from other girls out there as well. I think the city likes to think that john stings have had an effect on the decline in business out there, but from what I'm hearing the crack-down on motels and the violence is having the most impact. All of this is hearsay, of course, so take that for what it is. However, if more than one SW has the same intel then I'm going to tend to believe it.
Now, switching gears from a john to a resident who lives in the area near Aurora, I can indeed tell you all that residents are getting sick and damn tired of everything going on out there. Voices and attention are getting louder. Make no mistake, change is coming to Aurora. I'm not sure when or how, but it's coming. The laws which the city has chosen to ignore can be flipped-on again in a moment's notice, soliciting is still a crime and vice can be back out there busting girls left and right. My opinion is that once the girls start getting busted again, the vast majority of them will immediately leave Seattle. The city can't just go after one side (the johns), if they want the problem to subside then they'll have to pursue all sides. The pimps and the shootings will most likely decrease along with it. Residents are really tired of seeing the open-air strip club and aggressive SWs acting with impunity out there. Prior to 2020 when the city council repealed he loitering laws it was fairly dead out there from what I recall, with mostly local girls. I'll say it yet again, the city council had a hand in creating this problem out on Aurora by repealing those loitering laws and the City Attorney's office announcing that they won't prosecute any SWs arrested for soliciting. That immediately sent a message down the entire West Coast. Some of this is their fault. If we're going to ignore the laws then just fucking decriminalize the fucker. As it stands now, they've criminalized roughly about 100 alleged johns in the past three years as a result of them trying to fix their mistake (which didn't do a god damn thing). All my opinion, of course, and I can rant about this motherfucker forever. But residents of the area are banding together and complaining to the city, the hammer is going to fall.
https://www.king5.com/article/news/crime/shootings-threaten-safety-north-seattleites-near-aurora-ave/281-98ae39c7-7084-4282-8d9f-e5db7d5c4719
This is the same block Lavish Rich was killed on as well as the same block the strip club is on / where all the pimps park there cars Infront. This may also be why it's so dead out there lately. Esp around this area.
I have lived in this town my whole life (born in early 60's) I don't remember a time when there hasn't been girls working Aurora. The biggest difference has been the level of discretion used in the past compared to now. I think you will see the couture worker disappear and aee the reemergence of the jeans and tennis shoe / high heel girl return to the scene.
I have lived in this town my whole life (born in early 60's) I don't remember a time when there hasn't been girls working Aurora. The biggest difference has been the level of discretion used in the past compared to now. I think you will see the couture worker disappear and aee the reemergence of the jeans and tennis shoe / high heel girl return to the scene.That's fine with me. I much prefer the next door girl look in jeans and regular people clothes then this ratchet stripper BS.
I also think this is what will happen, the return of discretion. I don't think they'll eliminate all SWs on Aurora, but the overly-done crazy in-your-face behavior will subside. The city will go on a vice-binge which will get the out-of-towner girls to pack-up and leave and force others to not be so out in the open. Like homelessness, residents know these things exist but they just don't want to look at it. I also really do believe that the new incoming city council will re-enact the loitering laws out there, but I guess we'll see.
I think you will see the couture worker disappear and aee the reemergence of the jeans and tennis shoe / high heel girl return to the scene.
I did two laps through Aurora late Saturday afternoon / early evening and saw zero SWs out there. It's been quite a while since I've seen zero.
One thing I noticed that was interesting when I went out a few nights ago was that the girls were all walking in packs of three. Even girls that I had previously never ever seen walking with any other girls and always walked solo. Clearly something is going on. Maybe it's in response to the latest shooting. Maybe a girl got kidnapped.
I went back through AA on Saturday evening around 10 pm and counted eight SPD patrol vehicles parked in the lot between Krispy Kreme and Jack in the Box. All of the officers were gathered in the lot and talking. Looked like a staging area for a larger event but I didn't hang around long enough to find out. Did a search tonight to see if anything popped-up regarding police activity in the area and found nothing as of yet. The funny part is that on the other side of Jack in the Box in the Lowe's entry lot there were about four of five girls working and guys were pulling-up to them for a chat. Some of you guys are crazy.
Other than that, I did a rough count at around 12 girls from top to bottom along AA. Concentration at 137th, handful at Lowe's, one or two around 107th, handfuls in the 100 blocks and then it petered-down to onesies down to just south of 90th. Some lookers but I couldn't be bothered to talk to anyone and went home after about one pass.
Went out Sunday night. The girls are very annoyingly hanging out in large packs. Down on bottom there was a group of 6 of them at one corner. Seriously. Please don't do that. Less experienced mongers will never ever stop for a pack of six girls like that. They are too intimidated.
I am totally and completely done with the scene out there on AA. Right now there aren't really any touring girls or as many for a variety of reasons. Finding even a semi decent date is next to impossible out there right now. I used to be able to find good dates without too much hassle, now it's impossible. Haven't had even a semi decent date out on AA since August. Even some of the girls I knew out there who provided good services aren't out there anymore. I think it will only get better after time passes and all these shootings stop and / or warmer weather returns. In the mean time you aren't going to find a good date out there. It's hard to believe this is what it is now. It was better last winter in the freezing cold then it is right now.
I'm feeling the same way. I've been seeing three girls on a regular basis, two of whom were from out of the area, and both suddenly left Seattle this week. Each had told me that they'd be here through November. All have been telling me that they haven't really been making money and it wasn't worth it to stand out in the changing weather. My other regular, a local, said that she also isn't making as much money and that whenever there is a shooting or major crime event it shuts the stroll right down. She's leaving for another city for November to try and make some more $$ My own feeling is that the girls have been aggressive out there lately and my chances of having an incident with one of these aggressive girls standing on a street corner is much more likely. She'll spray me, cause damage to my vehicle or some other incident which will draw police. Maybe a bit paranoid, but that's how I'm feeling lately. And all of those SPD patrol vehicles parked at KK Saturday night with a lot full of cops on foot made me think something is definitely up out there. I've been getting an odd feeling that something is about to change and I'm not wanting to be a part of that. I have to drive through the area and of course will continue to do so but I haven't really been trying to pick-up anyone new nor had the interest.
I am totally and completely done with the scene out there on AA. Right now there aren't really any touring girls or as many for a variety of reasons. Finding even a semi decent date is next to impossible out there right now. I used to be able to find good dates without too much hassle, now it's impossible. Haven't had even a semi decent date out on AA since August. Even some of the girls I knew out there who provided good services aren't out there anymore.
I'm feeling the same way. I've been seeing three girls on a regular basis, two of whom were from out of the area, and both suddenly left Seattle this week. Each had told me that they'd be here through November. All have been telling me that they haven't really been making money and it wasn't worth it to stand out in the changing weather. My other regular, a local, said that she also isn't making as much money and that whenever there is a shooting or major crime event it shuts the stroll right down. She's leaving for another city for November to try and make some more $$ My own feeling is that the girls have been aggressive out there lately and my chances of having an incident with one of these aggressive girls standing on a street corner is much more likely. She'll spray me, cause damage to my vehicle or some other incident which will draw police. Maybe a bit paranoid, but that's how I'm feeling lately. And all of those SPD patrol vehicles parked at KK Saturday night with a lot full of cops on foot made me think something is definitely up out there.There was another shooting and person shot Sunday morning at 1 am. https://www.kiro7.com/news/local/seattle-police-investigate-early-morning-aurora-shooting/DD4VYWIEJJCT5DFRUDV7VEUNVQ/.
I really suspect all these damn shootings in this pimp war that has been raging for many months now and the motels being shut down is the main cause of the situation out there on AA right now. I have never seen it this bad in terms of lack of girls and service. This last date was super super rushed and she was pressuring me and even though it was BBBJ she was like "we got to hurry my mans will see I have moved" and shit like that. All her clothes stayed on including jacket and she had these fishnet stockings on that prevented me from feeling her skin. There was a hole you just stick it in from behind for vaginal. I totally lost my erection between the high pressure rushed non existent service and the fact she was wearing all her clothes. I told her 200 is a lot for a car date and she was like "no its not, I've been paid way more then that for 2 minutes" so total GPS on top of it. The worst head I've ever had in my life and that lasted all of 1 minute before she rushes me to try and fuck her. Sure I've had these type of BS dates before over the past couple of years, but this time it's different. You can't find a decent date to save your life in between the bad ones! It always evened itself out cause I'd hit patches where I'd have 4-6 banging dates in a row with BBBJ and BBCIP and it was great! Without much effort in finding these girls I might add either! I had a stretch back in August where it was 5 or 6 girls back to back that let me raw dog them and they were good looking too and on the younger side 18 - mid 20's. I couldn't hardly believe my luck it felt like winning the lottery. Normally I would find good service like that but there would always be rough patches in between. This was just a golden streak like no other. I think it's because some of them were just that desperate for cash and this was still while there were travelling girls competing. These dates were post emerald shutting down right afterwards in the 3 weeks afterwards. Now it seems they have zero motivation to compete because there is no competition and they all seem to be under the same couple pimps. I think there's few pimps out there left. Even the ones I normally see I don't see out there anymore they are gone.
Going to be patient and wait for the girl next door types to come back to south of the AM / PM gas station area. Or Dunn Lumber area. They were mainly local and 100 for FS was very fair even a few years ago for the age and looks. If I can get 100 now considering inflation (especially eating out) I would call it a very excellent deal.
GangBangLeader
10-18-23, 16:06
https://komonews.com/amp/news/local/seattle-shooting-bus-stop-aurora-avenue-north-oak-tree-crime-crisis-washington-gun-firearm-violence-103rd-street-search-police-investigation-suspect-victim-injuries-shots-fired
Yet another shooting on Aurora.
It is a War Zone.
Avoid 99.
https://komonews.com/amp/news/local/seattle-shooting-bus-stop-aurora-avenue-north-oak-tree-crime-crisis-washington-gun-firearm-violence-103rd-street-search-police-investigation-suspect-victim-injuries-shots-fired
Yet another shooting on Aurora.
It is a War Zone.
Avoid 99.Jesus fuck. Yea. The war continues. It's no wonder the shit is so dead. These are just the shootings that have been covered too BTW. There was a shooting at Lavish Rich memorial the day after he got killed. They did a drive by shooting on the mourners. That was never in the news. No wonder shit's so dead out there.
I went through mid-evening last night and counted nine SWs out there. There could have been a few more I didn't see but either way it was pretty light out on girl-action. Probably a good split between gals who are too heavy and gals who were just right. Around midnight my most regular SW contacted me and asked if I'd see her, she'd been out since 6 pm and only made $150. I had to decline, I've been seeing her too much lately and I had something which I had to do at home. She said there was a shooting the previous night and then the shooting yesterday afternoon, apparently both incidents really killed the action. She's leaving town as a result.
I'm about to go regularless which means I'm going to have to hunt again if I want any action. Thinking it's going to be a lot of beers with buddies this winter.
Fair amount of attractive SW out about 9:30 pm. There is a level of desperation out there. I countered all offers with sub 100 numbers and they accepted. Decided on blonde Barbie. She has a room.
Fair amount of attractive SW out about 9:30 pm. There is a level of desperation out there. I countered all offers with sub 100 numbers and they accepted. Decided on blonde Barbie. She has a room.If its the same Blonde Barbie we all talk about than its totally getting desperate out there. She never went below 200 or was it 250. Can't recall, I am 100% sure it started with a 2.
Times are tough out there. Most people are broke just trying to eat well, I wonder when eating out inflation will ever end. Eventually a meal and drink no matter where will be 17 to 20 bucks.
Fair amount of attractive SW out about 9:30 pm. There is a level of desperation out there. I countered all offers with sub 100 numbers and they accepted. Decided on blonde Barbie. She has a room.This is correct. There is definitely desperation out there. I was out on Thursday night and there were a TON of girls out. At least 20. I didn't count. Even for an August night it would have been a good amount of girls. I bagged a unicorn. Not ready to post my report on it yet. In the next couple weeks I will. Things definitely have improved out there for a variety of reasons.
Counted about 12 on Sunday night from 137th to about 90th. Thinned-out as the night wore-on, by about midnight that number dropped to about six on my last pass through. Granted it was Sunday night. I decided to try a small WSW spinner with brown hair and a short tight miniskirt on one of the 100 blocks, she said she was cold and really wanted a date. I asked if she might do BB and she lost her shit, yelling and carrying-on. I told her "thanks" and drove farther up to the stop sign and was halted by traffic, she followed and began yelling at me again, telling me I'd never find it because girls "out here" are higher-class and don't do that along with a bunch of other BS. I just kept telling her "okay, thanks for the info" but she wouldn't go away. I tried a taller Latina farther north and what seemed to be an Asian SW near 137th and both said no but without the drama. I finally met a slightly thicker WSW with an attractive face who said she'd do BBBJ for $200, I countered with less than half of that and she immediately said okay and got in. Nice dirty talk with enthusiastic service. As we drove away I asked if she wanted me to take the backroads because the miniskirt girl yelled at me earlier for asking for BB and she said "no, fuck that *****". She and I met eyes as I drove by her. Yeah, I'll never find it, alright. Sure.
At one point I was about to talk with a BSW on the northern part of the strip, just then a vehicle came up at a high rate of speed and stopped next to us, two black guys got out and instantly started harassing her. She beat feet quickly across the street with these guys in her ear, one at each side, yelling at her all the way. Another yellow Ford Tonka truck with a black male driver was also speeding around and yelling at girls, trying to get them to work for him and chasing them off and driving very recklessly. I know a lot of SPD Vice read this board, so there's your fuckin tip you cock wads. If you assholes are so big on going after the traffickers and are so concerned with the safety of the SWs then there it is, put your fuckin money where your mouths are and get god damn after it.
Picked up a pretty WSW around 4 am this morning near the Oak Tree plaza. She was in her early 20's. Smashed and got a nice BBBJ for 150. She was pretty cold and that certainly was a motivating factor for her as my car was nice and warm Though a lot of those girls would rather freeze then give a guy a BBBJ you can find some deals here and there from motivated girls to get out of the cold. It was some pretty good head and as usual fucked her doggy style standing outside. It wasn't mind blowing good but it was good. I would rate this pickup as a 7. 8.
I am going to start rating my pickups on a 1-10 scale (with decimal places no rookie scores here). Last weeks unicorn pickup was a 9. 1 Monster Score1!
Tip of the week: . It's going to be absolutely freezing (literally) Friday thru Sunday morning! Burrrrr. Would be a good time to cruise on through for some bargains early am when it's freezing. Blast the heat in your car as you roll up so it's like a fire and they can feel it standing outside. Make sure to emphasize it's really nice and warm in there. You might just seal the deal if you got heated seats Have a good week everybody!
Went through mid-evening Tuesday, just passing through after some fight time in the ring and not really fit for cruising. Counted maybe nine girls out as it was raining pretty hard at that time. I passed one short spinner BSW in short-shorts standing on a corner as I waited for traffic and over she came asking if I wanted a date. I told her BB-only which she probably wouldn't do and to my surprise she said, "actually I do, can I get in?". I mentioned that I wasn't really fit for a date as I was just passing through and she said she'd clean me up. She quoted lower than most SWs out there and we went to her room which was a bit of a ways outside of the city limits. She was not in a hurry, she cleaned me up a bit and then we went through a few positions and I ended-up behind her. She contorted herself so that she was looking up at me as I was getting her from the back. Nice, dirty mouth on her. I finished and she asked if I wanted to go again, for a slight tip along with a wink. I declined because I had to get home. During conversation she said she quotes lower than most other girls out there because that way she gets the business AND guys come back. That way she's not always standing in the rain. I almost couldn't believe the catch I'd made. Apparently she's from Southern California and leaving for the East Coast this weekend but will be back in about a month. We'll see, but lately it's been good so let's hope that holds.
Went through mid-evening Tuesday, just passing through after some fight time in the ring and not really fit for cruising. Counted maybe nine girls out as it was raining pretty hard at that time. I passed one short spinner BSW in short-shorts standing on a corner as I waited for traffic and over she came asking if I wanted a date. I told her BB-only which she probably wouldn't do and to my surprise she said, "actually I do, can I get in?". I mentioned that I wasn't really fit for a date as I was just passing through and she said she'd clean me up. She quoted lower than most SWs out there and we went to her room which was a bit of a ways outside of the city limits. She was not in a hurry, she cleaned me up a bit and then we went through a few positions and I ended-up behind her. She contorted herself so that she was looking up at me as I was getting her from the back. Nice, dirty mouth on her. I finished and she asked if I wanted to go again, for a slight tip along with a wink. I declined because I had to get home. During conversation she said she quotes lower than most other girls out there because that way she gets the business AND guys come back. That way she's not always standing in the rain. I almost couldn't believe the catch I'd made. Apparently she's from Southern California and leaving for the East Coast this weekend but will be back in about a month. We'll see, but lately it's been good so let's hope that holds.Did you at least get her number so that you could share it with your good buddies on this board? .
Indeed I did, but let's see if that holds. She's leaving this weekend for another city on the East Coast. A lot of the time I get a number and then they switch the sim card out when they move do a different city and then she's gone. When and if she comes back I have to get lucky to pick her up again. This gal seems very focused on regulars, though so we'll see. That being said, I almost never get anything in return from any other guys so I'm not always wiling to share actual contact information. Mostly just want to let everyone know about the conditions out there. I know that a lot of guys read this forum and yet so few of them actually contribute. I do get interesting bits of intel from time to time but that's about it. I read forums in other cities and they are very active, not sure why so many guys are so reluctant to post in here. The situation seems to be good right now for both price and service, I know guys have something of value to contribute.
Did you at least get her number so that you could share it with your good buddies on this board? .
Michael1967
10-25-23, 14:56
Indeed I did, but let's see if that holds. She's leaving this weekend for another city on the East Coast. A lot of the time I get a number and then they switch the sim card out when they move do a different city and then she's gone. When and if she comes back I have to get lucky to pick her up again. This gal seems very focused on regulars, though so we'll see. That being said, I almost never get anything in return from any other guys so I'm not always wiling to share actual contact information. Mostly just want to let everyone know about the conditions out there. I know that a lot of guys read this forum and yet so few of them actually contribute. I do get interesting bits of intel from time to time but that's about it. I read forums in other cities and they are very active, not sure why so many guys are so reluctant to post in here. The situation seems to be good right now for both price and service, I know guys have something of value to contribute.They are worried about pissing off the AARP hookers on the other board.
Did you at least get her number so that you could share it with your good buddies on this board? .Pretty positive I saw same girl.
I got her number few days ago and saw her yesterday. Surprised to finding her on Aurora since the service was a 10. Dm me if want it.
AlexHernandez
10-27-23, 03:10
Had successful stroll tonight between 9:30 and 12. Was circling from 105 to the IHOP parking lot. Saw around 9 girls. Ended up going with a BSW in a red top and short skirt. She had a nice round ass. She initially quoted 200, but later agreed for a CBJ for 100 as that was all I was looking for in my first car date. Special thanks to Hoballer guiding me through this. The time and route he suggested was perfect.
MikeLikesBsw
10-27-23, 13:30
Had successful stroll tonight between 9:30 and 12. Was circling from 105 to the IHOP parking lot. Saw around 9 girls. Ended up going with a BSW in a red top and short skirt. She had a nice round ass. She initially quoted 200, but later agreed for a CBJ for 100 as that was all I was looking for in my first car date. Special thanks to Hoballer guiding me through this. The time and route he suggested was perfect.Good Stuff!
So, I had a mishap recently on AA. I was trying to talk the $ down by 20 when we were about to start, and that annoyed her. She took the $ and decided to only give me a CBJ without telling me directly, not doing CFS as originally planned. I realized that 3 minutes into the CBJ and we then begin to quarrel about who was "playing the game" and there was a lot of BS going on. She refused to continue any service and said the clock started the moment she got in my car. I didn't want to argue any more at this point, but she was way more angry than I was. In the end, she angrily stepped out of my car and I got only an unfinished CBJ. Who is to blame? What should I have done alternatively to not ruin this?
So, I had a mishap recently on AA. I was trying to talk the $ down by 20 when we were about to start, and that annoyed her. She took the $ and decided to only give me a CBJ without telling me directly, not doing CFS as originally planned. I realized that 3 minutes into the CBJ and we then begin to quarrel about who was "playing the game" and there was a lot of BS going on. She refused to continue any service and said the clock started the moment she got in my car. I didn't want to argue any more at this point, but she was way more angry than I was. In the end, she angrily stepped out of my car and I got only an unfinished CBJ. Who is to blame? What should I have done alternatively to not ruin this?That's just how it is on AA. If the girl is starting the clock the moment she gets in. She isn't going to ever give you any good service no matter what you say or do or how much money you give her. She is just a degree away from being a rob and probably robs men quite frequently and / or just does the absolute bare minimum and peace out before time even runs out. A lot of those girls out on AA are just robs / scammers. The clock if they set one isn't supposed to start until you guys are actually parked and fooling around IMO but some girls are super GPS and think going to the atm and finding a parking spot is on the clock. If you plan on going up to AA. Just go in with the mindset that it's gambling. You might get absolutely nothing or you might hit the jack pot. If you can't afford to lose whatever $$ you are going to spend up there then don't go up there cause you will get robbed.
So, I had a mishap recently on AA. I was trying to talk the $ down by 20 when we were about to start, and that annoyed her. She took the $ and decided to only give me a CBJ without telling me directly, not doing CFS as originally planned. I realized that 3 minutes into the CBJ and we then begin to quarrel about who was "playing the game" and there was a lot of BS going on. She refused to continue any service and said the clock started the moment she got in my car. I didn't want to argue any more at this point, but she was way more angry than I was. In the end, she angrily stepped out of my car and I got only an unfinished CBJ. Who is to blame? What should I have done alternatively to not ruin this?Maybe quit fucking around with scamming street ****** and just go to an AMP and know what you are going to get?
This one plays games. I had seen here several times before. She always asks for a tip and always tell her I don't tip. Last time I saw her, she stops halfway throught the deed and won't start til I give her more money. Kicked her to the curb.
FYI, later Sunday night I was driving up a side-street toward Aurora and came upon a pretty WSW going as the name Cindy. 24 years-old, wearing silver glitterly hotpants and a dark coat. She had shoulder-length blonde currlyish blonde hair and a very attractive face, light eyes and on the right side of her face she was wearing a silver glittery make-up face painting over her right eye. She approached and asked if I wanted a date, I asked if she did BB and she said no, then turned around and said she does but usually only during "indoor" dates (assuming she means internet dates at a room) but that she charges $1000. I thanked her and was going to leave then she asked how much I had. I gave her a rate and she accepted. She said she had a spot and I told her I wasn't wild about the SW choosing a spot but I'd go check it out. Along the way we made small-talk and she said that Aurora has been veeery slow and that she wasn't making money. She directed me to turn into a very large dark parking lot, the one which has the large empty building which was formerly the Sam's Club on the northern part of the stroll, and I declined. I've been chased out of there by security so I knew that wasn't going to work. I told her I had a better spot a couple of blocks from AA. She seemed nervous but nothing which got my attention.
When we got to the spot and parked, she asked if I had a gun. I thought that was an odd question and told her so. She then asked if I kept any guns at my house. Another odd question. She opened her door and got out and then quickly pulled a gun and pointed it at me. It was black and looked an awful lot like a 9mm but it could have been a taser. She was far enough out of reach that I couldn't wrestle with her, if I made a move she'd have blasted me. She said, "just so you know, I have no intention of doing this date". Then she demanded the money. I threw it over and she backed-away into the shadows and was gone. Thinking she was gone, I got out for a minute to get my head together, just then she popped-out screaming, "WHY ARE YOU STILL HERE? She had the gun drawn on me again and was fast approaching me with some serious intention. I told her that I was on a public street and the building next to us had a security camera and she was being recorded approaching me with a weapon. I got back in the vehicle and she got right up to my passenger door and I locked it just in time before she could open it. It was then that I realized she probably had a taser, would probably have tased me if she could have opened the door. However, I still don't know, I didn't focus on the weapon so I don't know exactly what she had. And again, it looked very similar to a 9mm. This time I drove away, but after rounding the block to head-out I ran into her walking back toward Aurora. Nobody around. So I came back up and shot some photos of her, she tried hiding her face and she was talking on the phone to I presume her pimp but who knows.
So this is where things are going on Aurora. Never, ever in all of my years of hobbying have I ever had a weapon of any kind drawn on me, not even a knife. I've seen pepper spray, but no real actual threat directly to me. I've been yelled-at, verbally threatened, but never actually threatened with a weapon. With all of the violence going on out on AA, I was wondering when the girls were going to start robbing and threatening guys, especially since they aren't making money. It's getting ridiculously dangerous out there. If an SW shoots a john, the city will have to start sending vice back out there. Anyway, If you see a gal matching her description or meet a gal going by Cindy, don't pick her up.
This one plays games. I had seen here several times before. She always asks for a tip and always tell her I don't tip. Last time I saw her, she stops halfway throught the deed and won't start til I give her more money. Kicked her to the curb.Is she a WSW with black hair and a really thicc booty? Just picked one up about an hour ago and she kept bringing up tip like annoyingly so before we've even started. Though she gave decent BBBJ and had a super nice booty it wasn't memorable otherwise. She told me her name was "Nola" I am pretty sure. I remember when she told me her name I immediately thought about the chic you picked up cause boy did Nola bring up tip a lot.
FYI, later Sunday night I was driving up a side-street toward Aurora and came upon a pretty WSW going as the name Cindy. 24 years-old, wearing silver glitterly hotpants and a dark coat. She had shoulder-length blonde currlyish blonde hair and a very attractive face, light eyes and on the right side of her face she was wearing a silver glittery make-up face painting over her right eye. She approached and asked if I wanted a date, I asked if she did BB and she said no, then turned around and said she does but usually only during "indoor" dates (assuming she means internet dates at a room) but that she charges $1000. I thanked her and was going to leave then she asked how much I had. I gave her a rate and she accepted. She said she had a spot and I told her I wasn't wild about the SW choosing a spot but I'd go check it out. Along the way we made small-talk and she said that Aurora has been veeery slow and that she wasn't making money. She directed me to turn into a very large dark parking lot, the one which has the large empty building which was formerly the Sam's Club on the northern part of the stroll, and I declined. I've been chased out of there by security so I knew that wasn't going to work. I told her I had a better spot a couple of blocks from AA. She seemed nervous but nothing which got my attention.
When we got to the spot and parked, she asked if I had a gun. I thought that was an odd question and told her so. She then asked if I kept any guns at my house. Another odd question. She opened her door and got out and then quickly pulled a gun and pointed it at me. It was black and looked an awful lot like a 9mm but it could have been a taser. She was far enough out of reach that I couldn't wrestle with her, if I made a move she'd have blasted me. She said, "just so you know, I have no intention of doing this date". Then she demanded the money. I threw it over and she backed-away into the shadows and was gone. Thinking she was gone, I got out for a minute to get my head together, just then she popped-out screaming, "WHY ARE YOU STILL HERE? She had the gun drawn on me again and was fast approaching me with some serious intention. I told her that I was on a public street and the building next to us had a security camera and she was being recorded approaching me with a weapon. I got back in the vehicle and she got right up to my passenger door and I locked it just in time before she could open it. It was then that I realized she probably had a taser, would probably have tased me if she could have opened the door. However, I still don't know, I didn't focus on the weapon so I don't know exactly what she had.So sorry that happened to you. It is actually really surprising a girl would resort to using a gun or other weapon to rob a guy on AA. The mo for robs on AA has always been just take the money and leave or bait and switch. I have a feeling maybe somebody hit her or something during a previous time she tried rob somebody? Or one of her friends or something and so she didn't want to take a chance? She also may have just been high on meth or something. Her level of aggression and willingness to try and get back into your car certainly is a little bit scary.
KitWalker1967
10-30-23, 11:02
FYI, later Sunday night I was driving up a side-street toward Aurora and came upon a pretty WSW going as the name Cindy. 24 years-old, wearing silver glitterly hotpants and a dark coat. She had shoulder-length blonde currlyish blonde hair and a very attractive face, light eyes and on the right side of her face she was wearing a silver glittery make-up face painting over her right eye. She approached and asked if I wanted a date, I asked if she did BB and she said no, then turned around and said she does but usually only during "indoor" dates (assuming she means internet dates at a room) but that she charges $1000. I thanked her and was going to leave then she asked how much I had. I gave her a rate and she accepted. She said she had a spot and I told her I wasn't wild about the SW choosing a spot but I'd go check it out. Along the way we made small-talk and she said that Aurora has been veeery slow and that she wasn't making money. She directed me to turn into a very large dark parking lot, the one which has the large empty building which was formerly the Sam's Club on the northern part of the stroll, and I declined. I've been chased out of there by security so I knew that wasn't going to work. I told her I had a better spot a couple of blocks from AA. She seemed nervous but nothing which got my attention.
When we got to the spot and parked, she asked if I had a gun. I thought that was an odd question and told her so. She then asked if I kept any guns at my house. Another odd question. She opened her door and got out and then quickly pulled a gun and pointed it at me. It was black and looked an awful lot like a 9mm but it could have been a taser. She was far enough out of reach that I couldn't wrestle with her, if I made a move she'd have blasted me. She said, "just so you know, I have no intention of doing this date". Then she demanded the money. I threw it over and she backed-away into the shadows and was gone. Thinking she was gone, I got out for a minute to get my head together, just then she popped-out screaming, "WHY ARE YOU STILL HERE? She had the gun drawn on me again and was fast approaching me with some serious intention. I told her that I was on a public street and the building next to us had a security camera and she was being recorded approaching me with a weapon. I got back in the vehicle and she got right up to my passenger door and I locked it just in time before she could open it. It was then that I realized she probably had a taser, would probably have tased me if she could have opened the door. However, I still don't know, I didn't focus on the weapon so I don't know exactly what she had. And again, it looked very similar to a 9mm. This time I drove away, but after rounding the block to head-out I ran into her walking back toward Aurora. Nobody around. So I came back up and shot some photos of her, she tried hiding her face and she was talking on the phone to I presume her pimp but who knows.
So this is where things are going on Aurora. Never, ever in all of my years of hobbying have I ever had a weapon of any kind drawn on me, not even a knife. I've seen pepper spray, but no real actual threat directly to me. I've been yelled-at, verbally threatened, but never actually threatened with a weapon. With all of the violence going on out on AA, I was wondering when the girls were going to start robbing and threatening guys, especially since they aren't making money. It's getting ridiculously dangerous out there. If an SW shoots a john, the city will have to start sending vice back out there. Anyway, If you see a gal matching her description or meet a gal going by Cindy, don't pick her up.Glad you're okay and sorry to hear that happened to you dude. AA is just a hot mess these days.
She didn't give-off the normal signs of any meth usage. She was very calm, easy-going, easy to talk with, not talking fast nor wandering in her conversation. Beautiful face, nice teeth, she maintained herself very well. Once the weapon came out, she was very much in command as if she'd trained for this scenario. Actually, it was pretty impressive. She's done this before and probably will keep doing it. I'm continually impressed at how unafraid a lot of these girls are toward johns. Pimps, another story, they won't mess with them, but so-called "regular" guys they view as pussies. And honestly, they're right, most of us aren't going to mess with SW's once things get aggressive, we have too much to lose in this current climate where the city views all sex workers as victims. And, the girls know this. So somebody trained her to be aggressive in this situation and honestly her pimp was probably near that large, dark lot. The fact that she still went through with this even though she and I were the only two people around a few blocks away from Aurora and away from her normal suggested spot is very telling about her level of confidence.
When I ran into her again just walking on the sidewalk her weapon was in her purse and she was talking on the phone, I could have easily jumped her from there. But, again, multiple security cameras and the city being on her side I thought better of it. Couple hundred dollars isn't worth the bigger aftermath i'd be potentially facing. I'm willing to bet she robs most guys rather than actually go through with a date, so I expect more robberies. Total guess on my part here, but i'm going to theorize that she's tried the cash-and-dash before and got pummeled or guys chased after her, so the weapon is just an added layer of security on her part. She could also only be targeting guys who ask for BB, girls seem to really hate that. I don't know why she didn't ask for other items such as my phone and such, for a moment I had a feeling that she was going to steal my vehicle. The question she asked about whether I had guns at my house was also an interesting question. I admit that I've been lazy with the things I bring out with me, time to go back to just a hobby phone, no wallet and an exact amount of cash which I'm willing to lose. I did it that way for years. Usually lately whenever I go through I'm coming back from somewhere so have all of these things on me. I need to only cruise with purpose from now on and not be drawn-in.
One interesting thing she told me is that police stopped her the other day because they thought she was a missing female named Zoey. So she's known to SPD because she had to ID herself.
So sorry that happened to you. It is actually really surprising a girl would resort to using a gun or other weapon to rob a guy on AA. The mo for robs on AA has always been just take the money and leave or bait and switch. I have a feeling maybe somebody hit her or something during a previous time she tried rob somebody? Or one of her friends or something and so she didn't want to take a chance? She also may have just been high on meth or something. Her level of aggression and willingness to try and get back into your car certainly is a little bit scary.
Is she a WSW with black hair and a really thicc booty? Just picked one up about an hour ago and she kept bringing up tip like annoyingly so before we've even started. Though she gave decent BBBJ and had a super nice booty it wasn't memorable otherwise. She told me her name was "Nola" I am pretty sure. I remember when she told me her name I immediately thought about the chic you picked up cause boy did Nola bring up tip a lot.She is very light skinned mixed. She also has various wigs she wears. She does have a thick booty. She usually is around the mid to high 90's blocks.
She didn't give-off the normal signs of any meth usage. She was very calm, easy-going, easy to talk with, not talking fast nor wandering in her conversation. Beautiful face, nice teeth, she maintained herself very well. Once the weapon came out, she was very much in command as if she'd trained for this scenario. Actually, it was pretty impressive. She's done this before and probably will keep doing it. I'm continually impressed at how unafraid a lot of these girls are toward johns. Pimps, another story, they won't mess with them, but so-called "regular" guys they view as pussies. And honestly, they're right, most of us aren't going to mess with SW's once things get aggressive, we have too much to lose in this current climate where the city views all sex workers as victims. And, the girls know this. So somebody trained her to be aggressive in this situation and honestly her pimp was probably near that large, dark lot. The fact that she still went through with this even though she and I were the only two people around a few blocks away from Aurora and away from her normal suggested spot is very telling about her level of confidence.
When I ran into her again just walking on the sidewalk her weapon was in her purse and she was talking on the phone, I could have easily jumped her from there. But, again, multiple security cameras and the city being on her side I thought better of it. Couple hundred dollars isn't worth the bigger aftermath i'd be potentially facing. I'm willing to bet she robs most guys rather than actually go through with a date, so I expect more robberies. Total guess on my part here, but i'm going to theorize that she's tried the cash-and-dash before and got pummeled or guys chased after her, so the weapon is just an added layer of security on her part. She could also only be targeting guys who ask for BB, girls seem to really hate that. I don't know why she didn't ask for other items such as my phone and such, for a moment I had a feeling that she was going to steal my vehicle. The question she asked about whether I had guns at my house was also an interesting question. I admit that I've been lazy with the things I bring out with me, time to go back to just a hobby phone, no wallet and an exact amount of cash which I'm willing to lose. I did it that way for years. Usually lately whenever I go through I'm coming back from somewhere so have all of these things on me. I need to only cruise with purpose from now on and not be drawn-in.
One interesting thing she told me is that police stopped her the other day because they thought she was a missing female named Zoey. So she's known to SPD because she had to ID herself.Next time you see her out, call 911 with an anonymous tip about seeing a woman walking the track with a gun in her hand.
So sorry that happened to you. It is actually really surprising a girl would resort to using a gun or other weapon to rob a guy on AA. The mo for robs on AA has always been just take the money and leave or bait and switch. I have a feeling maybe somebody hit her or something during a previous time she tried rob somebody? Or one of her friends or something and so she didn't want to take a chance? She also may have just been high on meth or something. Her level of aggression and willingness to try and get back into your car certainly is a little bit scary.There is also a good chance she is not a SW, but a strong arm robber, or she is holding for her man. Robbing tricks might just be a side hustle.
There is also a good chance she is not a SW, but a strong arm robber, or she is holding for her man. Robbing tricks might just be a side hustle.Yea that's very possible. I actually befriended a girl I picked up off the street who is a robber. She actively robs guys all the time to make money not out on AA though she's never been on AA. She's 19 and very pretty. You wouldn't ever suspect. She's definitely lethal though. These types of chics are definitely out there. You see them on the news all the time for killing somebody, they look so innocent. They are actually killers. So be careful out there.
I think this is getting to be thrill of the chase instead of the end game.
Playing cat and mouse with police as well.
Frankly I don't have it in me to play games with fate and losing anymore. You guys can fill me in on AA from now on. I did participate some but move on to other things.
She has definitely done this before. Very calm, confident. Again, I could have tackled her and beat the living ***** out of her when I ran into her again a block away, the weapon was in her purse and she was just walking. She definitely didn't like that I was there and snapping photos, but she just kept going. She knew I wasn't going to do anything. She knew I had a fear of being arrested and charged over a couple hundred dollars. She knew that the city would leap on me rather than her. I was never and am not a street hustler, I'm not willing to commit violence to get street justice and go to jail, I have no street cred to maintain. She does know people who do have to maintain that image and she doesn't mess with them because they will go the distance with her and put her in her place. She sized me up. The other interesting thing is that she remarked about how fit I looked and we talked about that for a bit, I think that contributed to how she was going to execute her plan. She stayed just out of reach so that I couldn't grab her and grapple with her and to also give her enough time to shoot should I have made a move. It takes time to gain that kind of tactical confidence, she definitely had it.
And honestly, guys, I'm actually very surprised that this sort of stuff doesn't happen more often. There's very little recourse should any of us get robbed. We can't really call police, we can't take her to court. I think it's so easy for an SW to just take the money and walk that I'm surprised it doesn't happen more often. And, I sort of suspect that it will. The level of desperation out there lately and the pressure on the girls to make money and the city's attitude toward johns make us easy targets.
There is also a good chance she is not a SW, but a strong arm robber, or she is holding for her man. Robbing tricks might just be a side hustle.
FromTheJump2
10-31-23, 17:26
This one plays games. I had seen here several times before. She always asks for a tip and always tell her I don't tip. Last time I saw her, she stops halfway throught the deed and won't start til I give her more money. Kicked her to the curb.I've never had a bad experience with her, only seen her off AA, never picked her up.
And honestly, guys, I'm actually very surprised that this sort of stuff doesn't happen more often. There's very little recourse should any of us get robbed. We can't really call police, we can't take her to court. I think it's so easy for an SW to just take the money and walk that I'm surprised it doesn't happen more often. And, I sort of suspect that it will. The level of desperation out there lately and the pressure on the girls to make money and the city's attitude toward johns make us easy targets.It's sad to hear this happened to you, and could very well happen to every one of us that play this game. For me, I've come to the conclusion that if their first response to your inquiry is too costly, or no to a specific service, it's best to simply move on. The resentment even if you continue after negotiations rarely in my experience make it worth it.
I 100% agree with this. In fact, normally this is a part of my rules, I violated that rule for this time. I like to know upfront how a gal reacts to my service request, if she's hesitant or initially a no then usually I do move on. In this case there was a pretty wide gap between what she says she normally does and what I offered ($1000 compared to $200).
For me, I've come to the conclusion that if their first response to your inquiry is too costly, or no to a specific service, it's best to simply move on. The resentment even if you continue after negotiations rarely in my experience make it worth it.
Member #6474
10-31-23, 21:55
Yea that's very possible. I actually befriended a girl I picked up off the street who is a robber. She actively robs guys all the time to make money not out on AA though she's never been on AA. She's 19 and very pretty. You wouldn't ever suspect. She's definitely lethal though. These types of chics are definitely out there. You see them on the news all the time for killing somebody, they look so innocent. They are actually killers. So be careful out there.This is the truth. I heard through the grapevine that the Brownes Point studio was shutdown after one of the girls got a gun charge and the person on the lease freaked out (and not one of the girls you would think!).
FAFO is the mindset for a lot of folks out there. Use caution.
"And honestly, guys, I'm actually very surprised that this sort of stuff doesn't happen more often. ".
That's the thing. It does happen more often we just don't hear about it. There is what a few of us that regularly post on this board about our dates? Guys are getting robbed every single day off the blade. Maybe not at gun point but I am certain it happens more then we will ever know. The guys aren't calling 911 so there is no way to know how many guys get robbed on a daily basis but from my experience. It's going to be every single day no question about it.
I too just simply move on if a girl is really hesitant about a BBBJ. Unless she's super super good looking and / or a unicorn. Then I will actually chase. If she's just mid / good looking I won't even bother cause in my experience those blowjobs suck anyways.
Good evening cool cats and cool kittens. I had a date tonight with a 18 year old BSW up from Cali. I checked her drivers license and verified this was true. She was walking with two other black girls who she was up here with. I noticed several new faces up on top that I had never seen before. Two new WSW possibly a third but I didn't see her face. I passed by this girl while I was driving and she waved at me. I got caught at the red light and noticed she was just standing there maybe 30 or 40 feet behind my car staring at my car. I then saw her walking back towards my direction. I wasn't actually planning on pulling over for this girl but I was caught at the light. She came back close enough to my car that I rolled down the window to get a better look and could see that she was good looking and on the younger side. We negotiated right there at the green light LOL. She was down with a QV for 150 (with BBBJ) I countered with 125 and she said 130. I said okay cool hop in. I took her to the atm and got the cash out and took her to an empty parking lot. She had a nice little spinner body. Couldn't tell how tall she was because I am sitting in my car but she wasn't that tall probably low 5 feet. Little boobies and a nice little booty. Her head game was really really good! Wasn't rushed at all and she did a really really good job with the head. I felt her up and kissed her titties etc. The usual car date stuff with a chic that you feel comfortable with. There are definitely girls out there I won't put my lips on at all. I would say most girls out there I don't want to kiss there tits. This girl was clean so I felt comfortable with it.
We finished with doggy standing up car style outside. The condom broke on me. I always have the girls put the condom on themselves so they can't accuse me of tampering with it. Because I am an absolute pro / 2 star general on this board I always come prepared for this I keep extra boxes of generic plan B in my glove compartment that sell for $10 bucks a box on amazon (get some). That always helps any fears of getting pregnant. She downed that sucker happily Make sure you boys are tested.
I had my last std tests done a month ago and I was all negative. I am going to test again here in the next week.
Just how do you just do so much raw without health problems. I had a STD once, OMG did peeing ever become agony. Felt like a bus was coming out while peeing.
I admit I like it once a while like once every 6 months but to do it that often, I don't like the odds.
Yeah, I don't doubt that in the wider scheme of things it's happening, I meant to say this in regard to my own personal experiences. I've rarely been robbed or even threatened for the number of times in which I've dated in my life since I've been in the hobby. Quite extraordinary, really. At least I think so.
That being said, last night I was on my way through to meet a friend downtown and had to stop to take a phone call. I pulled-over in the lot near IHOP and out of nowhere a nice attractive young Latina was at my window asking if I wanted a date. I never get approached in that lot, ever. I declined and continued with my call, but she persisted. She said she'd do BBBJ, something which she never does, for the exceptional rate of $200, LOL. She told me that she needed to finish her night, wouldn't I help her out? With a stone face I declined again and told her she should move on. Then she told me that BBBJ's were going for $300-340 out there, she was really giving me a good rate. I got annoyed with that and told her she was peddling some bullshit, I wasn't interested, bye-bye. She sighed and walked away. I'm leery of SW's approaching me in large parking lots.
That's the thing. It does happen more often we just don't hear about it. There is what a few of us that regularly post on this board about our dates? Guys are getting robbed every single day off the blade. Maybe not at gun point but I am certain it happens more then we will ever know. The guys aren't calling 911 so there is no way to know how many guys get robbed on a daily basis but from my experience. It's going to be every single day no question about it.
Believe it or not, I've never ever actually had an STD. I get tested pretty regularly, having done so again about two weeks ago. I'm also considering going on PrEP which is an anti-HIV medication.
Just how do you just do so much raw without health problems. I had a STD once, OMG did peeing ever become agony. Felt like a bus was coming out while peeing.
I admit I like it once a while like once every 6 months but to do it that often, I don't like the odds.
Believe it or not, I've never ever actually had an STD. I get tested pretty regularly, having done so again about two weeks ago. I'm also considering going on PrEP which is an anti-HIV medication.Well consider yourself very lucky. Peeing was so painful I had to go urgent care. I forgot what they did but it was still painful after treatment and the amount of anxiety each piss was horrible.
Just how do you just do so much raw without health problems. I had a STD once, OMG did peeing ever become agony. Felt like a bus was coming out while peeing.
I admit I like it once a while like once every 6 months but to do it that often, I don't like the odds.I have gone raw with maybe 15-20 girls in the last couple of years. It's hard to keep track. This represents a very very small portion of the actual girls I have had sex with. Granted all of them were BBBJ but as far as actual penetration only 15 or so were bare with vaginal. Only maybe 3 of them I really regret going bare with. The others I didn't regret going bare with because of there age and I knew they were very careful and this wasn't a normal thing for them. STD's are actually a lot harder to get then you would think for a guy. Granted you could just be unlucky and one and done some chic who has HIV and get it. That's extremely extremely rare though. HIV is difficult to get. The virus is very fragile and hard to transmit. This is why gay guys have it so much worse then females. Transmission of STD's through the anus is a lot easier then with the vagina due to the fact that you are creating so many little tears in the anus when you are having sex and the bioavailability of anything you put in the butt is so much higher then the vagina. This is why alcohol up the butt is a bad idea. It goes straight into the blood stream. This is why rectal hydration is also a thing. Same concept with STD's. It has a direct pipeline to your blood stream. Hence why gays were so much more affected by HIV and still are with it and other STD's because of how much anal they do. For a guy having vaginal sex. As the pitcher we are at a much much lower risk of getting an STD then a female who is the catcher.
I don't think I need to state the obvious with BBBJ. There is no risk for us guys to get any STD other then herpes or warts. STD's are not transmitted through salvia. If they were then everybody on planet earth would have an STD! Just like how almost everybody on earth has HSV1 (cold sores) which is transmitted through salvia.
I don't think I need to state the obvious with BBBJ. There is no risk for us guys to get any STD other then herpes or warts. STD's are not transmitted through salvia. If they were then everybody on planet earth would have an STD! Just like how almost everybody on earth has HSV1 (cold sores) which is transmitted through salvia.This an incorrect take. Chlamydia and Gonorrhea can absolutely jump both directions between penis and throat. Probably others too. It may not be that common but it's false to characterize the risk as zero. A small amount of Internet research is probably a good idea.
P.S. The word you wanted was "saliva".
This morning I picked up a girl near the wall. She told me she was 18. She had black hair was a very light skinned Latina or white girl. I couldn't tell which. She was walking at a moderate to fast pace and I pulled over for her and she came up to my window. She told me she wanted to hang out and asked if she could get in. I said sure. She reeked like booze. She was very hot. She immediately got handsy with me and rubbed my arms and stuff. She was what I would describe as overly nice. Very good looking but not ratchet looking. Girl next door type look. She never brought up price or services and I said "you want to go back to my place" She said "sure maybe, you want to just drive around?" I said sure. She seemed like a unicorn the type of girl who was just looking for some fun and maybe a little money but not a pro. I was really taken aback by the whole initial conversation in the car and wasn't too too sure what to make of it. Given that she smelled like alcohol I brushed it off as she's just plastered and looking for a good time. I pulled out and I immediately noticed a car behind me with no head lights on, it seemingly pulled out as I did. I flipped a you turn and started going the other direction and noticed that this car did the same moments later. Suspecting something I flipped another you turn and headed the other way and once again this car all the while with its head lights off flipped another you turn. I knew at this moment he was for sure following me so I flipped another you turn and could see that he had pulled off onto the side of the road because he knew I knew. He and I looked at each other as I drove past. The girl put on quite an act at being innocent and not having any idea what was going on or who that guy was.
The crazy part of this story is I parked 3 or 4 miles away from the track and we just talked for about 5-10 minutes and the entire car ride I was feeling her up and she was being all handsy with me. We drove around for a good 30 minutes or more. I was still super sketched out because I know what I saw but she tried to claim she had seen the guy earlier and that maybe she should go back and talk to him and see if he wants a date. I was very on edge still. I thought though what kind of pimp would let her girl drive around for half an hour though. We hadn't even talked price yet after like 25 minutes in the car driving around! It wasn't until I found a spot and parked that we even talked prices and by that time shit she was probably in my car for 35 minutes. It was wild. Negotiations broke down she wanted too much. I thought to myself though I haven't lost a dime and I've been sitting here chatting up this really hot young 18 year old feeling her up this entire time! So I was still okay with what was going on. She didn't grope my junk that much but I groped her plenty and she opened her shirt and I sucked on her titties and I gave her some kisses on the cheek. She also tongued both my ears.
After the negotiations broke down in that parking spot over price. I headed back to AA and and she asked me to drop her off at a Safeway across from the gas station. That same guy in the same car was parked at the gas station across the street which I saw her go over to the gas station a few minutes after I dropped her off. Long story short even after texting her about it she denied knowing the guy. The real funny part is I saw them in that car together at a light about 40 minutes later. She just looked at me and I just looked at her. I definitely think it was a rob attempt. Why else would he physically be following me? Maybe it's cause she was drunk and super new to this? I really am not sure. Make sure to watch your six guys out there.
This an incorrect take. Chlamydia and Gonorrhea can absolutely jump both directions between penis and throat. Probably others too. It may not be that common but it's false to characterize the risk as zero. A small amount of Internet research is probably a good idea.
P.S. The word you wanted was "saliva".Yup. The only time I ever got Chlamydia was from oral with a SW.
This morning I picked up a girl near the wall. She told me she was 18. She had black hair was a very light skinned Latina or white girl. I couldn't tell which. She was walking at a moderate to fast pace and I pulled over for her and she came up to my window. She told me she wanted to hang out and asked if she could get in. I said sure. She reeked like booze. She was very hot. She immediately got handsy with me and rubbed my arms and stuff. She was what I would describe as overly nice. Very good looking but not ratchet looking. Girl next door type look. She never brought up price or services and I said "you want to go back to my place" She said "sure maybe, you want to just drive around?" I said sure. She seemed like a unicorn the type of girl who was just looking for some fun and maybe a little money but not a pro. I was really taken aback by the whole initial conversation in the car and wasn't too too sure what to make of it. Given that she smelled like alcohol I brushed it off as she's just plastered and looking for a good time. I pulled out and I immediately noticed a car behind me with no head lights on, it seemingly pulled out as I did. I flipped a you turn and started going the other direction and noticed that this car did the same moments later. Suspecting something I flipped another you turn and headed the other way and once again this car all the while with its head lights off flipped another you turn. I knew at this moment he was for sure following me so I flipped another you turn and could see that he had pulled off onto the side of the road because he knew I knew. He and I looked at each other as I drove past. The girl put on quite an act at being innocent and not having any idea what was going on or who that guy was.
The crazy part of this story is I parked 3 or 4 miles away from the track and we just talked for about 5-10 minutes and the entire car ride I was feeling her up and she was being all handsy with me. We drove around for a good 30 minutes or more. I was still super sketched out because I know what I saw but she tried to claim she had seen the guy earlier and that maybe she should go back and talk to him and see if he wants a date. I was very on edge still. I thought though what kind of pimp would let her girl drive around for half an hour though. We hadn't even talked price yet after like 25 minutes in the car driving around! It wasn't until I found a spot and parked that we even talked prices and by that time shit she was probably in my car for 35 minutes. It was wild. Negotiations broke down she wanted too much. I thought to myself though I haven't lost a dime and I've been sitting here chatting up this really hot young 18 year old feeling her up this entire time! So I was still okay with what was going on. She didn't grope my junk that much but I groped her plenty and she opened her shirt and I sucked on her titties and I gave her some kisses on the cheek. She also tongued both my ears.
After the negotiations broke down in that parking spot over price. I headed back to AA and and she asked me to drop her off at a Safeway across from the gas station. That same guy in the same car was parked at the gas station across the street which I saw her go over to the gas station a few minutes after I dropped her off. Long story short even after texting her about it she denied knowing the guy. The real funny part is I saw them in that car together at a light about 40 minutes later. She just looked at me and I just looked at her. I definitely think it was a rob attempt. Why else would he physically be following me? Maybe it's cause she was drunk and super new to this? I really am not sure. Make sure to watch your six guys out there.He could have been Sour Grapes over you getting to her first. He also could have been trying to make sure he was next in like. It could all of the above as easily none of it.
He could have been Sour Grapes over you getting to her first. He also could have been trying to make sure he was next in like. It could all of the above as easily none of it.No. He was definitely her pimp. The gas station that he was sitting at was more then a mile north of 145th st. Way off the blade. There is nobody sitting at that gas station waiting for a hooker to come by because hookers don't walk anywhere remotely close to that part of the blade. She told me she had to talk to her "gfs" about whether or not she could go back to my house.
I'm familiar with the gas station in question, usually a bunch of neer-do-wells hanging around outside leering-in at the cashier. I stopped there the other night after midnight to fill-up and a guy came up and asked if he could use my phone. Who knows this girl's relationship to the guy in that car or his intentions but they seem connected. Curious, what kind of car was it? I'm just wondering if this might be the same young Latina who approached me about a month ago, the girl who had the pepper spray. She was with a guy who droe a Mercedes. Just my opinion here, but I'd be very careful about bringing girls to your place. I cringe when I think about what could have happened if I had brought that gal who had the gun to my place (which I never considered, but I had done in years past). She asked a couple of times if I had firearms at my house, I think they were looking for a cache. Right now I think girls are desperate, they're pulling all sorts of scams out there.
No. He was definitely her pimp. The gas station that he was sitting at was more then a mile north of 145th st. Way off the blade. There is nobody sitting at that gas station waiting for a hooker to come by because hookers don't walk anywhere remotely close to that part of the blade. She told me she had to talk to her "gfs" about whether or not she could go back to my house.
Does anyone know what happened to Tori from the AA? Tall thin WSW with dark hair and glasses. Any info would be appreciated.
I'm familiar with the gas station in question, usually a bunch of neer-do-wells hanging around outside leering-in at the cashier. I stopped there the other night after midnight to fill-up and a guy came up and asked if he could use my phone. Who knows this girl's relationship to the guy in that car or his intentions but they seem connected. Curious, what kind of car was it? I'm just wondering if this might be the same young Latina who approached me about a month ago, the girl who had the pepper spray. She was with a guy who droe a Mercedes. Just my opinion here, but I'd be very careful about bringing girls to your place. I cringe when I think about what could have happened if I had brought that gal who had the gun to my place (which I never considered, but I had done in years past). She asked a couple of times if I had firearms at my house, I think they were looking for a cache. Right now I think girls are desperate, they're pulling all sorts of scams out there.I should also point out the driver of the car was a black male and this was about 530 am. I picked up a girl that I knew after I dropped her off so when I saw them together in the same car it was like 40 minutes later at least cause I also got a red bull. The only other girl that ever got into my car and immediately started rubbing my arms and being so nice and sensual like that in over 200 pickups in the last several years was that white girl who robbed me maybe 4 months ago which I also wrote about here. I wrote at the time about how she was feeling me up and vice versa the whole way to the spot to park. That's the only other time any girl from either AA or locally that I've picked up that did anything like that. This girl was basically overselling it to hide her true intentions IMO.
I was told by one of the SWs out there whom had befriended Tori, so take this for the second-hand hearsay it is, that Tori's pimp paid her out a lump sum and she runs a business now. What kind of business I have no idea, but apparently she and her pimp had an exit plan and he cashed her out and both took the money they made and went their own ways. That's what I was told, I have no idea if that's actually true, but I haven't seen her out there, either.
Does anyone know what happened to Tori from the AA? Tall thin WSW with dark hair and glasses. Any info would be appreciated.
I was told by one of the SWs out there whom had befriended Tori, so take this for the second-hand hearsay it is, that Tori's pimp paid her out a lump sum and she runs a business now. What kind of business I have no idea, but apparently she and her pimp had an exit plan and he cashed her out and both took the money they made and went their own ways. That's what I was told, I have no idea if that's actually true, but I haven't seen her out there, either.I knew Tori for years, and she always told me she didn't have a pimp and there was never any sign of one in our sometimes weekly visits. I will imagine that she did have an exit plan that she acted on, rather than any of the awful possibilities. She was a smart, funny, and personable woman.
Michael1967
11-05-23, 14:44
I was told by one of the SWs out there whom had befriended Tori, so take this for the second-hand hearsay it is, that Tori's pimp paid her out a lump sum and she runs a business now. What kind of business I have no idea, but apparently she and her pimp had an exit plan and he cashed her out and both took the money they made and went their own ways. That's what I was told, I have no idea if that's actually true, but I haven't seen her out there, either.I simply couldn't imagine a pimp saving enough money to cash out.
This video was posted almost two weeks ago by a resident living near Aurora Ave. I find it interesting because he parked near the scuba shop at 107th and some hooker came up and threatened him because she said his parking there was killing her business and the he needed to go somewhere else. She also tried to tell him that his filming her on the street was illegal, LOL. Obviously Constitutional law ain't her strong point. It's an interesting video if any of you haven't seen it -.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BdPcPNGl4jQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BdPcPNGl4jQThanks for posting this. If only more people recognize as he does why legalization or even decriminalization of prostitution is one of the viable solutions.
This video was posted almost two weeks ago by a resident living near Aurora Ave. I find it interesting because he parked near the scuba shop at 107th and some hooker came up and threatened him because she said his parking there was killing her business and the he needed to go somewhere else. She also tried to tell him that his filming her on the street was illegal, LOL. Obviously Constitutional law ain't her strong point. It's an interesting video if any of you haven't seen it -.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BdPcPNGl4jQDude better be careful. He's running a risky life doing that.
Michael1967
11-06-23, 22:07
Dude better be careful. He's running a risky life doing that.Former military. He's carrying and knows how to use it. Unlike the pimps.
This article was published yesterday regarding prostitution numbers going down along Aurora.
https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/law-justice/prostitution-is-down-on-seattles-aurora-avenue-will-it-stay-that-way/
I found the following to be interesting:
The Seattle City Council unanimously voted in June 2020 to drop drug traffic and prostitution loitering laws from the books because of their disproportionate impacts on people of color.
While that decision was made to address longstanding inequities in who police stop, question and detain, SPD leaders say it has limited officers abilities to engage with women who are being prostituted, hampering their ability to get to the root of the problems plaguing Aurora.
"Since the prostitution loitering law was repealed, we dont have any power to question them", said Capt. Lori Aagard, commander of the SPDs North Precinct, referring to women working the track.
"You've legalized it", added Lt. Joe Osborne. "Prostitution loiter isnt illegal, so they can walk up and down the street all day long".
Though Seattle police can still contact women and girls they suspect are involved in prostitution, officers cant ask for their identification or do anything that makes them feel that they cant walk away, Aagard said.
And while SPDs Vice & High Risk Victims Unit still conducts sting operations on Aurora, the unit has shrunk from eight detectives and two sergeants before the pandemic to two detectives and a sergeant who splits his time between vice and another unit, mirroring staffing cutbacks across the agency, according to the remaining detectives. They said 20% of the victims prostituted on Aurora and locally online are minors and that they recently encountered two Tacoma girls, ages 16 and 17, being trafficked on Aurora.
"We're going to deal with the pimps, but tell me: How [do] you do that without engaging with the workers being prostituted?", one detective asked. "You've got to have a victim who says they're being victimized to go after the pimp. You have to be able to build a case"
Couple things I wanted to refute for the record which we all here already know.
"the men who pay for sex have become increasingly aggressive and violent."
"Now, the most requested items are pepper spray and kubatons — handheld, sticklike self-defense tools that attach to a keychain, she said."
"Buyers became more aggressive after the start of the pandemic, likely because their lives felt more out of control and purchasing a human being for sex also makes it more possible to act violently against them," Baedke said. "So there was a huge uptick in violence from buyers, and we haven't necessarily seen that taper down."
I refute all of this LOL! These girls of course are not telling the full side of the story here. Like that girl whose nose got broke after she robbed that guy. Do they just overlook that part? No. They aren't told that part. So of course they paint such a rosey picture of these girls. Many of whom are out there doing robs are actively robbing people because they want too not because they are forced. I know because I befriended one of these girls myself and she would tell me all the stories. She had no pimp. She slept over at my house and we were good friends for a couple of months. She never robbed me or took nothing from me because of the way we met each other.
I can see in this photograph of the same exact poker one of those girls used to put a dent in my car because I wouldn't give her 20 bucks for sitting in my car for 1 minute while we negotiated. That drunk midget! Yea those weapons sure are being used to protect themselves! They are actually just being used to assault guys out there more often then not. I wish the times would interview a John to get some of our stories and get the full side of the story from all perspectives.
Marko Ramius
11-07-23, 17:33
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"the men who pay for sex have become increasingly aggressive and violent."
"Now, the most requested items are pepper spray and kubatons handheld, sticklike self-defense tools that attach to a keychain, she said."
"Buyers became more aggressive after the start of the pandemic, likely because their lives felt more out of control and purchasing a human being for sex also makes it more possible to act violently against them," Baedke said. "So there was a huge uptick in violence from buyers, and we haven't necessarily seen that taper down."
...Well, I think they were about half right.
I've personally seen that since the pandemic a lot more people will act out in public, including violently, than would in the past. Why that is the case is a bigger question.
It wouldn't surprise me at all if a lot more interactions between hobbyists and providers are getting violent today than would have in 2019. Even if the vast majority of both wouldn't ever do that if the minority got even a tiny bit bigger (in absolute numbers) that might result in a doubling or tripling of **reported** incidents of violence. Both ways. And my own experience in the hobby over the decades has been that any kind of violence has been vanishingly rare, so we were starting from very tiny numbers (but very tiny numbers that get a lot of publicity).
So I'm not surprised at all that more hobbyists are being bad clients, including by assaulting or robbing providers. I mean, shit, attacks on **flight attendants** are still very high (but down 80 percent since 2021). So not surprising at all.
We are a more violent and fucked up society today than we were before. Film at 11.
My feeling on all of this is that SWs have definitely become more aggressive in the past three years when the city said they won't arrest nor prosecute sex workers. They definitely seem to be more aggressive this year after the city issued the nuisance orders against the motels and the money slowed-down a bit. They seem to be acting as if they're entitled and that every street corner and every man driving through is absolutely for them. I drove up to Aurora on Saturday night, simply passing through to go meet a friend of mine with zero intention of picking-up any SW. I got to the corner and there were four girls standing in the road, I gave no eye contact, no signal whatsoever for any of them to come over and of course one short white girl approached my window (which was up). I shook my head no and she crinkled her face into a dour look of disapproval at my disinterest. She walked over to another SW and pointed to me and they both started flipping me off, pointing and laughing, turning around and showing their fat asses at me. I just threw my hands up and shrugged. I was stuck behind two other cars, both of which had two other SWs at their windows in active negotiation so I couldn't just get around them and go. Both of those SWs really felt that I was there for them, not a resident merely driving through to get on Aurora to get somewhere, and they were pissed-off when I showed no interest. I've mentioned this before, but this is what is pissing-off my neighbors and other residents who live in the area, the entitlement of the hookers working the corners and standing in the middle of the roads thinking they own it and getting pissed when male drivers don't talk to them. The YouTube video I posted a couple of days ago shows a resident arguing with a hooker who told him he had to move-on because his parking nearby her was killing her business. She then had the gall to tell him that shooting video of her in public was illegal (which of course it isn't), as if what she was doing working the corner wasn't illegal, LOL.
Some fat SW punched my window a couple of weeks ago because I wasn't interested in talking to her and of course the gun incident last week. Most of them believe that there aren't any consequences and that they are a protected class so they aren't afraid to be aggressive.
I refute all of this LOL! These girls of course are not telling the full side of the story here. Like that girl whose nose got broke after she robbed that guy. Do they just overlook that part? No. They aren't told that part. So of course they paint such a rosey picture of these girls. Many of whom are out there doing robs are actively robbing people because they want too not because they are forced. I know because I befriended one of these girls myself and she would tell me all the stories. She had no pimp. She slept over at my house and we were good friends for a couple of months. She never robbed me or took nothing from me because of the way we met each other.
I can see in this photograph of the same exact poker one of those girls used to put a dent in my car because I wouldn't give her 20 bucks for sitting in my car for 1 minute while we negotiated. That drunk midget! Yea those weapons sure are being used to protect themselves! They are actually just being used to assault guys out there more often then not. I wish the times would interview a John to get some of our stories and get the full side of the story from all perspectives.
I had a date tonight with a girl I had seen once before. She and I were talking in the car on the way back to the oak tree plaza area and she told me about how there were Mexicans actually kidnapping girls off AA. If you guys recall I posted about a chic who told me the same about 5 months ago in June or July. I picked up that girl and on the way to the spot she told me that the cartel was out here kidnapping girls. At the time I posted it I was like hmmmm yea I dunno about that. Well. Now I have a second girl telling me that she physically saw a van pull up and kidnap a girl off AA recently and that the girls were running away and screaming. She told me she was there and saw this. I'm inclined to believe there is some truth to this now that I have a second girl telling me the same thing who is totally unrelated to the first girl who was travelling through the area in an RV and didn't work the blade like a pro and has since long left Seattle. I see no reason for her to make this up.
When the first girl told me this what prompted it was a Mexican guy who was walking across the street sweating some girl Infront of us. Then she told me about how the cartel is out there kidnapping girls. At this moment I'm leaning towards it's true. But who knows. I'll ask around some more.
I had a date tonight with a girl I had seen once before. She and I were talking in the car on the way back to the oak tree plaza area and she told me about how there were Mexicans actually kidnapping girls off AA. If you guys recall I posted about a chic who told me the same about 5 months ago in June or July. I picked up that girl and on the way to the spot she told me that the cartel was out here kidnapping girls. At the time I posted it I was like hmmmm yea I dunno about that. Well. Now I have a second girl telling me that she physically saw a van pull up and kidnap a girl off AA recently and that the girls were running away and screaming. She told me she was there and saw this. I'm inclined to believe there is some truth to this now that I have a second girl telling me the same thing who is totally unrelated to the first girl who was travelling through the area in an RV and didn't work the blade like a pro and has since long left Seattle. I see no reason for her to make this up.
When the first girl told me this what prompted it was a Mexican guy who was walking across the street sweating some girl Infront of us. Then she told me about how the cartel is out there kidnapping girls. At this moment I'm leaning towards it's true. But who knows. I'll ask around some more.I have heard that story over the years. I don't know how much truth is in it. Maybe undocumented latino girls, but American citizens? Where the profit in it? You snatch a girl and get caught moving here across state lines, now the Feds are involved. Where do you take them, back to Mexico? There are a ton of girls already down there that you could get with much less hassle. It just doesn't make sense.
Michael1967
11-10-23, 00:03
I have heard that story over the years. I don't know how much truth is in it. Maybe undocumented latino girls, but American citizens? Where the profit in it? You snatch a girl and get caught moving here across state lines, now the Feds are involved. Where do you take them, back to Mexico? There are a ton of girls already down there that you could get with much less hassle. It just doesn't make sense.I sort of agree. Why bother with a gringa that is nothing but trouble when Latinas are hotter. I know Mexicans like the white blondes but absolutely no one is getting rich from Mexican men fucking hookers and even the crappiest American / European monger would help a trapped Anglo chick.
I sort of agree. Why bother with a gringa that is nothing but trouble when Latinas are hotter. I know Mexicans like the white blondes but absolutely no one is getting rich from Mexican men fucking hookers and even the crappiest American / European monger would help a trapped Anglo chick.Exactly my point. Why would the Cartel, an organization that moves $500,000.00 worth of product across the border a day compromise its operation by messing around with kidnapping working girls, which might net them $4,000.00 a girl. Where is the profit in that? These girls are not that smart and generally believe what they are told, regardless of how ridiculous it might sound. I have you noticed how many spell waste like waist? Honestly, the only people who do the abduction thing are pimps and they usually end up in jail because of it.
Marko Ramius
11-11-23, 10:20
Exactly my point. Why would the Cartel, an organization that moves $500,000.00 worth of product across the border a day compromise its operation by messing around with kidnapping working girls, which might net them $4,000.00 a girl. Where is the profit in that? These girls are not that smart and generally believe what they are told, regardless of how ridiculous it might sound. I have you noticed how many spell waste like waist? Honestly, the only people who do the abduction thing are pimps and they usually end up in jail because of it.Probably what is going on is some Latin pimps are trying to muscle in on the business. Since they aren't black the girls would all think "The Cartel" without every really knowing. They grab the girls, move them to another city, have them go back to work. Same business model. And if moving the girls around keeps them ahead of the police, it would certainly keep them ahead of other pimps.
Probably what is going on is some Latin pimps are trying to muscle in on the business. Since they aren't black the girls would all think "The Cartel" without every really knowing. They grab the girls, move them to another city, have them go back to work. Same business model. And if moving the girls around keeps them ahead of the police, it would certainly keep them ahead of other pimps.Yea. Probably something like that. As far as what Colnago is saying. You are thinking rationally. Drug dealers. Pimps. People like this are hopped up on drugs and don't think rationally like you and I. They are career criminals who have low impulse control and most of them don't think of it in terms of business like that. You can never underestimate a person who grew up on the streets and is on drugs. They are capable of anything no matter how much sense it doesn't make.
Yea. Probably something like that. As far as what Colnago is saying. You are thinking rationally. Drug dealers. Pimps. People like this are hopped up on drugs and don't think rationally like you and I. They are career criminals who have low impulse control and most of them don't think of it in terms of business like that. You can never underestimate a person who grew up on the streets and is on drugs. They are capable of anything no matter how much sense it doesn't make.The low level associates might do something dumb like this but then they are dealt with. The guys at the top know what's at stake. Here is an example of what happens when things go wrong
https://www.cnn.com/2023/03/09/us/mexico-matamoros-americans-kidnapped-thursday/index.html
Probably what is going on is some Latin pimps are trying to muscle in on the business. Since they aren't black the girls would all think "The Cartel" without every really knowing. They grab the girls, move them to another city, have them go back to work. Same business model. And if moving the girls around keeps them ahead of the police, it would certainly keep them ahead of other pimps.The problem with doing this is when a pimps moves the girl across state lines it now becomes a federal offense and the FBI gets involved. They have way more resources than the local police. Then, when they are caught, they are tried by the US Attorney. They are less likely to take a plea deal. Don't et me wrong, pimps have done it. Generally though, they know what's up and would rather get girls to come willingly. Pimping is part of the 3 strikes laws in many states. You can’t do too many stupip things before you are gone for good.
I went out two separate times yesterday during the day. Because of where my headquarters is it makes getting too AA a bit of a travel during traffic. I went out at 12 pm to 130 ish and again at 5-7. What I saw was remarkably different then my normal stroll during the late morning hours of 1-5 am. I didn't see a single familiar face out there. None of the girls at these hours I have ever seen in the night time hours that I usually am out there. At night during the late morning hours it's usually the same girls every day with very little variety.
I saw two girls that were going up to cars together near the Handy Andy's so I thought I'd pull over and see what they were offering. I pulled up and they both came up to me and they wanted 300 for both. The one girl said that she would "do something really special" for me. I asked what it is and she just told me that it would be better to just show me. She wouldn't tell me. I passed. I was getting really scammy / rob vibes. They were both 19 they told me. Attractive girls but getting major rob vibes. Weren't that many girls out but boy did I notice a lot of cars stopping to talk to the girls during these hours. At night it's a lot lot slower. Never seen so many cars talking to the girls before. I feel like this is probably a disadvantage for us BBBJ enjoyers as they get so much more turn over.
I went out for a couple of hours on aurora between 3-5. As I was making my final lap and then going to go home I saw a younger looking slim spinner coming out of an alley wearing an all pink lingerie type outfit. She hadn't been out in any of my previous laps so I knew she had just come out. I went around the block and pulled up to her. She came up to my window and immediately started complimenting me on how good I looked and how nice my car was. I told her I wanted head without a condom. She said she could do that for 100 if I get her an alcoholic beverage from the AMPM. I asked her how old she was. She told me 18. I said okay sure hop in. She gets in and she has a nice little spinner body. She told me she was 5'0. She was VERY VERY light skinned pretty much as white as me but had maybe a quarter black in her. On the way to the AMPM I had to go "sssssh" cause she was speaking so loudly she was almost yelling. She apologized and told me its because she's from "san fran" or something like that. That didn't make any sense but I was like whatever. She told me she was really drunk. Which is odd because she was SUPER amped up. I don't drink and am not around people that drink but even so I was looking for the signs she was drunk and in hindsight I don't see them. Despite being very belligerent. I got her what she wanted at the AMPM which was just one of those chic drinks and started heading to the spot. On the way there she wouldn't stop yapping. This girl had ZERO chill in her. She was actually annoying me before we even got to the AMPM. I picked one of my favorite spots that is reliable and not too far out of the way. As soon as we get there the threats started about how she's not out here alone and if I try anything weird her pimp will show up behind me and how it won't be pretty. I was like okay. I had heard these sorts of things before although not quite like this in the way she said it. I figured she's just nervous you know whatever. It's very apparent by this time that she's very out of it mentally. She thought I had picked her up off the internet before remembering I had picked her up off aurora.
I paid her through cashapp and all the while she won't quit yapping and giving me threats about if I try anything weird. She was giving me quite a lot of anxiety. Her head skills were actually pretty good but she was so amped up she couldn't stay focused and would start yapping again and that would lead to more BS. She almost got into the front of the car and quit because apparently I was being "aggressive". I was so taken aback by this because I was being so super chill. This chic was seriously bipolar and / or on meth or who knows what. I felt like I was her dad and had to convince her everything was fine (even though inside my heart was racing cause this ho kept hurling threats towards me) she told me that after this was over she would have to take a picture of my I'd incase she gets any STD's or something. I told her I had a wife earlier and that I needed to get home in hopes of trying to get her to just get on with it cause she was taking so much time yapping. She then used this against me and was like "I'll find out who your wife is and come after your family" after the whole I'd thing. At this point I was too afraid to just end it because this girl was really really bipolar and / or drunk and I didn't want her to snap and have this turn into anything. When we got out of the car so I could fuck her I was sticking my dick in her pussy (with condom on) she almost peed on me. She just crouched down out of nowhere and started gushing pee. I ended up cumming quickly and nervously because I have had issues with this brand of condoms before breaking and I for damn sure didn't want this ***** to break because this lady was nuts.
With the traffic it took way too long to get back to her spot and I was nervous the entire time. She told me her name was "Tiny". Definitely definitely stay away from this woman! One of the worst encounters I've ever had. I am missing a lot of details in this post because I really just want to erase this pickup from my memory it was so bad. Only spent 100 which is great. She didn't ask for my I'd at the end which I'm glad. I had my hand on my pepper spray though the entire drive back just in case she did and started freaking out when I told her she isn't getting it. Dodged a bullet there.
I've been with meth heads who were FAR more manageable then this woman. I look back and think to myself were there any signs I could have missed before she got in? And nope there weren't any. Other then her asking if I could buy her a drink. Which to be honest I thought would have the opposite effect and make her chill. I sure was wrong there. Holy shit.
Marko Ramius
11-12-23, 10:42
The problem with doing this is when a pimps moves the girl across state lines it now becomes a federal offense and the FBI gets involved. They have way more resources than the local police. Then, when they are caught, they are tried by the US Attorney. They are less likely to take a plea deal. Don't et me wrong, pimps have done it. Generally though, they know what's up and would rather get girls to come willingly. Pimping is part of the 3 strikes laws in many states. You cant do too many stupip things before you are gone for good.In a lot of places here they haul around girls to service migrant farmworkers (my understanding is the prices are quite low, around $40 for 5 minutes of use) out of vans. And that whole industry is 99 percent under the radar of LE and in most rural counties where there are migrant farmworkers the local cops don't have any resources to deal with something like that, so they just ignore it. Also politically it looks bad for those communities to admit that something like that happens in their hometowns, so again they have a huge incentive to pretend it doesn't happen.
Sticknmove
11-12-23, 14:18
I went out for a couple of hours on aurora between 3-5. As I was making my final lap and then going to go home I saw a younger looking slim spinner coming out of an alley wearing an all pink lingerie type outfit. She hadn't been out in any of my previous laps so I knew she had just come out. I went around the block and pulled up to her. She came up to my window and immediately started complimenting me on how good I looked and how nice my car was. I told her I wanted head without a condom. She said she could do that for 100 if I get her an alcoholic beverage from the AMPM. I asked her how old she was. She told me 18. I said okay sure hop in. She gets in and she has a nice little spinner body. She told me she was 5'0. She was VERY VERY light skinned pretty much as white as me but had maybe a quarter black in her. On the way to the AMPM I had to go "sssssh" cause she was speaking so loudly she was almost yelling. She apologized and told me its because she's from "san fran" or something like that. That didn't make any sense but I was like whatever. She told me she was really drunk. Which is odd because she was SUPER amped up. I don't drink and am not around people that drink but even so I was looking for the signs she was drunk and in hindsight I don't see them. Despite being very belligerent. I got her what she wanted at the AMPM which was just one of those chic drinks and started heading to the spot. On the way there she wouldn't stop yapping. This girl had ZERO chill in her. She was actually annoying me before we even got to the AMPM. I picked one of my favorite spots that is reliable and not too far out of the way. As soon as we get there the threats started about how she's not out here alone and if I try anything weird her pimp will show up behind me and how it won't be pretty. I was like okay. I had heard these sorts of things before although not quite like this in the way she said it. I figured she's just nervous you know whatever. It's very apparent by this time that she's very out of it mentally. She thought I had picked her up off the internet before remembering I had picked her up off aurora..Everything you described reminded me of Tiny form a couple years ago. She isn't 18 at all but she could very easily pass for a young girl. Is this her in the attachments? She is native and Latina. She always had a sour demeanor. Attitude. But she had a banging spinner body. ,She was so moody and always had a bad attitude but as soon as you got down to play she would be so into it, her body would respond, she would get wet, forget about tike and seemed more into the moment and genuinely aroused and into it. Always just reminding you to not CIP, or ask if I you had. She was terrible to arrange an appt with but she was worth the hassle. If you saw her resting ***** face most guys would pass assuming its going to be a bad time, but she was the opposite. She would practically melt while doing the deed and as soon as it was over that girl would go right back to bitchmode. What you described sounds like her. Bipolar as a mf.
In a lot of places here they haul around girls to service migrant farmworkers (my understanding is the prices are quite low, around $40 for 5 minutes of use) out of vans. And that whole industry is 99 percent under the radar of LE and in most rural counties where there are migrant farmworkers the local cops don't have any resources to deal with something like that, so they just ignore it. Also politically it looks bad for those communities to admit that something like that happens in their hometowns, so again they have a huge incentive to pretend it doesn't happen.Again, that might be happening with undocumented woman, but probably not. Pimps are not kidnapping white girls to bring them down to service farm workers for $40.00 a pop. That is just ludicrous.
Everything you described reminded me of Tiny form a couple years ago. She isn't 18 at all but she could very easily pass for a young girl. Is this her in the attachments? She is native and Latina. She always had a sour demeanor. Attitude. But she had a banging spinner body. ,She was so moody and always had a bad attitude but as soon as you got down to play she would be so into it, her body would respond, she would get wet, forget about tike and seemed more into the moment and genuinely aroused and into it. Always just reminding you to not CIP, or ask if I you had. She was terrible to arrange an appt with but she was worth the hassle. If you saw her resting ***** face most guys would pass assuming its going to be a bad time, but she was the opposite. She would practically melt while doing the deed and as soon as it was over that girl would go right back to bitchmode. What you described sounds like her. Bipolar as a mf.If it was the same girl I saw, that's not her. I wasn't digging the vib of anyone out that night. Everyone seemed to have some game they were running. I was born at night, but not last night.
Everything you described reminded me of Tiny form a couple years ago. She isn't 18 at all but she could very easily pass for a young girl. Is this her in the attachments? She is native and Latina. She always had a sour demeanor. Attitude. But she had a banging spinner body. ,She was so moody and always had a bad attitude but as soon as you got down to play she would be so into it, her body would respond, she would get wet, forget about tike and seemed more into the moment and genuinely aroused and into it. Always just reminding you to not CIP, or ask if I you had. She was terrible to arrange an appt with but she was worth the hassle. If you saw her resting ***** face most guys would pass assuming its going to be a bad time, but she was the opposite. She would practically melt while doing the deed and as soon as it was over that girl would go right back to bitchmode. What you described sounds like her. Bipolar as a mf.She looks scary as hell, how do you even approach that?
Everything you described reminded me of Tiny form a couple years ago. She isn't 18 at all but she could very easily pass for a young girl. Is this her in the attachments? She is native and Latina. She always had a sour demeanor. Attitude. But she had a banging spinner body. ,She was so moody and always had a bad attitude but as soon as you got down to play she would be so into it, her body would respond, she would get wet, forget about tike and seemed more into the moment and genuinely aroused and into it. Always just reminding you to not CIP, or ask if I you had. She was terrible to arrange an appt with but she was worth the hassle. If you saw her resting ***** face most guys would pass assuming its going to be a bad time, but she was the opposite. She would practically melt while doing the deed and as soon as it was over that girl would go right back to bitchmode. What you described sounds like her. Bipolar as a mf.Nah different girl. This tiny is 18 as well.
I don't know, from the OP's post that doesn't sound like the same Tiny to me. Obviously I wasn't there and it wasn't my experience so I can't make that claim with 100% certainty. I saw Tiny quite often and almost every experience, once we got naked and down to it, was pretty good. She was indeed horrible to try and schedule, would no-show, etc, also had the ***** face and seemingly hostile demeanor was indeed a thing, but she never seemed interested in threatening or coercing anyone. She was usually okay once we got going. Also the bi-polar attitude and loopiness didn't seem to be a thing with her in my experience. She very much knew from where her money came and wanted to keep that connection. I haven't even seen her out on the street in a few years at least and I'm through there all the time. But again, who knows. That being said, are you still in touch with Tiny? None of the numbers I have work, would like to maybe catch-up with her again.
Everything you described reminded me of Tiny form a couple years ago. She isn't 18 at all but she could very easily pass for a young girl. Is this her in the attachments? She is native and Latina. She always had a sour demeanor. Attitude. But she had a banging spinner body. ,She was so moody and always had a bad attitude but as soon as you got down to play she would be so into it, her body would respond, she would get wet, forget about tike and seemed more into the moment and genuinely aroused and into it. Always just reminding you to not CIP, or ask if I you had. She was terrible to arrange an appt with but she was worth the hassle. If you saw her resting ***** face most guys would pass assuming its going to be a bad time, but she was the opposite. She would practically melt while doing the deed and as soon as it was over that girl would go right back to bitchmode. What you described sounds like her. Bipolar as a mf.
I hate those kind of encounters, makes me feel trapped in my own vehicle with a loony. Are you comfortable mentioning where you found her, cross-streets or landmarks?
I've all but stopped making pick-ups this past week and probably for the forseeable future. Too much desperation out there which leads to scams and aggressive set-ups. I just don't like how things feel out there lately. I have one semi-regular who is back in town from Los Angeles and she contacted me for a meet-up a few nights ago, she said that she's noticing that a lot of the girls who are working out there on AA are drunk. My other regular, a local girl who left town to go work in Vegas through the rest of fall, also told me that most of the girls out there lately are drinking a lot of alcohol while standing out there and it causes issues as they start fighting with both johns and other girls.. I haven't had good experiences with SWs and alcohol and that could be contributing to the perceived bad attitudes out there lately.
With the traffic it took way too long to get back to her spot and I was nervous the entire time. She told me her name was "Tiny". Definitely definitely stay away from this woman! One of the worst encounters I've ever had. I am missing a lot of details in this post because I really just want to erase this pickup from my memory it was so bad. Only spent 100 which is great. She didn't ask for my I'd at the end which I'm glad. I had my hand on my pepper spray though the entire drive back just in case she did and started freaking out when I told her she isn't getting it. Dodged a bullet there.
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/n4bDRXckMUw
This is a really good laugh! I recognize the girl in the pajamas. The other girl is saying "you are out of pocket because you don't have a good dad" Being out of pocket has a couple of definitions and I think the most common one is making eye contact with another pimp which is not allowed. This is why if you drive a really nice car down AA (like I do depending upon how I'm feeling) the girls will literally turn there backs to you and / or refuse to look at you. It can also mean a girl working on a track without a pimp. Which I think given the context is what this other ho is saying she is doing. She drives herself to the track in her own car etc etc. She clearly doesn't have a pimp. The other hooker also tells the girl in PJ's that "you are paying a trick it's sad". To sum up the accusations made against this young entrepreneur 1) She has no pimp 2) She is paying a trick in lieu of a pimp. Paying the trick possibly for the incall she uses or some other benefits. Hard to say what she is paying the trick for exactly but it's clearly because he is involved in some way in this young entrepreneurs small woman owned business. I forget the white girls name by the car but she has a private incall nearby that she told me has a stripper pole and I could take a shower etc etc. She seems like a nice girl but probably doesn't do BBBJ so of course I'm not interested. Hilarious altercation.
I think what she's saying is that the other girl is out of money because she doesn't have a good pimp. The gal in the PJs essentially replied (paraphrasing), "fuck you, I made a band ($1000) today. Oh, and you have ugly tatoos", LOL. The gal yelling at her from a distance seems familiar, almost seems like Lala but I can't tell. She also seems too thin. Hell, I don't know.
I love how they're dogging each other over tricks (all of us), the men who pay their earnings. Reinforces how they really think of all of us. Okay, back to not being surprised by any of this. I also love the comments on the video, "file a grievance with the union", LOL.
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/n4bDRXckMUw
This is a really good laugh! I recognize the girl in the pajamas. The other girl is saying "you are out of pocket because you don't have a good dad" Being out of pocket has a couple of definitions and I think the most common one is making eye contact with another pimp which is not allowed.
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/n4bDRXckMUw
This is a really good laugh! I recognize the girl in the pajamas. The other girl is saying "you are out of pocket because you don't have a good dad" Being out of pocket has a couple of definitions and I think the most common one is making eye contact with another pimp which is not allowed. This is why if you drive a really nice car down AA (like I do depending upon how I'm feeling) the girls will literally turn there backs to you and / or refuse to look at you. It can also mean a girl working on a track without a pimp. Which I think given the context is what this other ho is saying she is doing. She drives herself to the track in her own car etc etc. She clearly doesn't have a pimp. The other hooker also tells the girl in PJ's that "you are paying a trick it's sad". To sum up the accusations made against this young entrepreneur 1) She has no pimp 2) She is paying a trick in lieu of a pimp. Paying the trick possibly for the incall she uses or some other benefits. Hard to say what she is paying the trick for exactly but it's clearly because he is involved in some way in this young entrepreneurs small woman owned business. I forget the white girls name by the car but she has a private incall nearby that she told me has a stripper pole and I could take a shower etc etc. She seems like a nice girl but probably doesn't do BBBJ so of course I'm not interested. Hilarious altercation.I was hoping that the person would have zoomed in on the other girl on the sidewalk. Wondering if she was cute.
I have gone out on AA the past 4 nights or so for "market research". Aurora sucks. End of story. If the pimps removed the restrictions AA could be great again. The pimps out there just suck ass though so that won't happen. If the girls out there were even half decent sex tourism could actually be a thing for Seattle. Even when there was 10-20 girls standing Infront of Emerald (renamed to "Best motel") there was no sex tourism in Seattle from other states because the girls don't give good service and everybody knows this. Everybody knows AA is full of scams and robs and bad service. That's why those girls don't get picked up that much and 99% of cars just drive by.
Granted I have had my fair share of really good pickups and unicorns, but not without a lot of perseverance to find them. When I do find a unicorn out there. They don't last long. EVER. Hence why they are called unicorns They aren't meant to be there for a long time. They don't last long with the way things are out there.
I went through the AA area on my way back home last night, not intending any sort of pick-up. I got stopped at a light and there was a very attractive, slender WSW or LSW standing on the sidewalk next to me and she started waving and trying to get my attention. Of course I looked at her, but then went back to waiting for the light. I heard her say something and I looked over at her again and she smiled and waved. Again, I gave very limited eye contact and no indication that I was looking for a date. When I looked over at her a third time, she flipped me off, apparently realizing she wasn't going to get a date and now she was pissed. Probably thought I was wasting her time driving on Aurora giving her false hope, LOL. I had never said anything to her, no gestures, nothing. This is the second time in the past two weeks something like this has happened, SWs getting angry for merely passing through and not wanting a date. The funny thing about this is that two years ago when all of the girls had rooms and plenty of dates to choose from I had a hard time getting a lot of them give me the time of day. Now they're starved for any attention. Lately I've had zero desire to attempt any pick-up, I've said this before but things feel really strange out there and I don't like the vibe.
I went out cruising last night around 2 am and picked up a pretty good looking MILF. Not sure of her age but she was a few years older then me. She was 5'0 tall and her body was in good shape. I pulled over for her near the taco bell south of dunn lumber. There are girls working down there that aren't pimp controlled and / or local sometimes. Sometimes the pimp controlled girls will work the corners near dunn lumber but if you got a few blocks south you can find some stragglers at times. Junkies and other assorted locals. I pulled up and she quoted 60 for a blowjob and 80 without condom (for head). I said hop in. All in was just 100 bucks for FS. She was a good fuck.
A few nights ago (Weds I think) I was out around midnight and saw two girls beating up another girl across the street from the Oak Tree plaza. It wasn't a super bad fight but they did beat her up (all of them were hookers). Not sure what the fight was about. One of the attackers got maced. It was a nice little show. In all the time I have spent out there this is only the third fight I've ever seen. Surprisingly.
Sometimes girls who are independent (a "renegade") will get jumped by other girls. A lot of the time when we see pimps out yelling at a girl it's because they don't know who she is and they want to know who her "people" are. Most of them just want to know that she does indeed have a pimp. They don't like indie girls out there working alone and keeping all the money for themselves and they definitely don't want her talking to their girls and letting them know that they don't need a man. A lot of the pimps actually know each other, if they can't ID a girl then they have their girls confront her. It's just how it works out there in street culture, and most of the pretty young girls think that's normal and that every girl should be represented by a man. It's pretty wild.
I remember a few years back an SW named Cream got jumped by four girls on 97th at the direction of their pimp. She used to work with them and decided to go indie, he pulled-up on her and told her that he wasn't going to do anything to her but that he was going to have his girls attack her. I remember she had stitches in her head for a while after that.
A couple of years ago a pimped BSW attacked another BSW who was local and independant near Firestone in the middle of the day. Actually knocked her out and she left her lying on the sidewalk, the clip actually made the news.
A few nights ago (Weds I think) I was out around midnight and saw two girls beating up another girl across the street from the Oak Tree plaza. It wasn't a super bad fight but they did beat her up (all of them were hookers). Not sure what the fight was about. One of the attackers got maced. It was a nice little show. In all the time I have spent out there this is only the third fight I've ever seen. Surprisingly.
Friday evening at 8:30 pm. Saw around 15 SWs, mainly at 137th and Lowe's. Two found in the 100-103 blocks. Didn't go further south.
Right after I talked to the SWs in the 100-103 blocks alleyways and turned around back to Aurora, I saw a police car and apparently the officer had stopped a car before him and was questioning him. I didn't notice the police car when I was negotiating. Dodged a bullet. BTW, can you get into trouble by just talking to a SW and being spotted by a police?
Friday evening at 8:30 pm. Saw around 15 SWs, mainly at 137th and Lowe's. Two found in the 100-103 blocks. Didn't go further south.
Right after I talked to the SWs in the 100-103 blocks alleyways and turned around back to Aurora, I saw a police car and apparently the officer had stopped a car before him and was questioning him. I didn't notice the police car when I was negotiating. Dodged a bullet. BTW, can you get into trouble by just talking to a SW and being spotted by a police?If you mean can the police now pull you over and mess with you, yes. They just need reasonable suspicion that a crime has occurred. Talking to a known sex worker allows them to pull you over. The real question is will they? Answer is maybe.
I saw police doing a lot of this in summer of 2020, they've generally stopped in more recent years but as always they can turn it back on again anytime. They'd have to question and get you to talk your way into a crime, so invoke your rights and don't answer questions. If the cop gets pissed-off that's just tough shit. Usually they do it just to send a message. I've been stopped a few times over my years of doing this activity, I've never talked and each time they didn't know what to do. Probably 15 years ago in the old AAA stroll a cop stopped me and said, "I'm doing a survey, guys come down here and just circle the blocks for hours, I'm just wondering why". He knew why, he wanted me to start talking my way into some sort of admission. I asked him under what statute was he stopping me and was I free to go? I wasn't answering questions. He actually started laughing and said, "have a good night".
Another time in Los Angeles they stopped me and surrounded my vehicle because it matched the description of a john vehicle who was allegedly raping and assaulting SWs. That was a much scarier situation, probably eight of LAPD around me and they were all business. It got sorted out and they realized I wasn't the suspect, but you can fuck yourself very quickly in a situation such as that one and people go to jail and charged over mistaken identity and false accusations all the time. That was also a lesson to me that there are people out there doing horrible things on various hooker strolls, any one of us can be mistaken for those bad folks at any time while we're out there and get stopped and questioned or worse. If you're out there a lot, girls get to know your vehicles even if you aren't dating them and they also talk amongst each other even though they all insist that they don't, you become a known entity. Just FYI.
One thing you all might want to do is have a consultation with a lawyer, one who specializes in defending these types of crimes. In my opinion it's worth getting the latest info and understanding of how LE works out there and how prosecutors typically run these cases if you're charged.
If you mean can the police now pull you over and mess with you, yes. They just need reasonable suspicion that a crime has occurred. Talking to a known sex worker allows them to pull you over. The real question is will they? Answer is maybe.
If you mean can the police now pull you over and mess with you, yes. They just need reasonable suspicion that a crime has occurred. Talking to a known sex worker allows them to pull you over. The real question is will they? Answer is maybe.In my experience no. They won't just stop your car for talking to a prostitute. Because the prostitution loitering laws were repealed I am not sure they even have reasonable suspicion anymore to pull you over for talking to one of them. I have never been pulled over and in my time out there which is 100's of hours on AA I can only recall one time I saw a guy pulled over after talking to a hooker.
The loitering laws applied to SWs working the streets, not to johns making a pick-up. The city still conducts john stings and over 30 guys have been popped this year alone thus far. They are definitely after the buyers. Plus, even though the loitering laws were repealed the crime of solicitation is still on the books, the city can conveniently pursue SWs again at any time. Vice can still pick-up an SW and bust her. Just because they aren't now doesn't mean that they eventually won't or can't. That being said, I've seen men stopped on Aurora a couple of times this year, though that number is way down from 2020 as I had mentioned in my previous post. If you do this activity for a long enough and regular period, the chances are pretty high that you will be stopped at some point. That can be for a variety of reasons including suspicion that you're somebody else whom has been committing heinous crimes against SWs. They can stop and question for suspicion, it happens. The city has a new city council and with pressure from residents things can change out there at any time. A lot of guys who got popped since 2020 thought that picking-up a prostitute was legal or decriminalized out there because the police weren't doing anything and therefore they were careless. They were careless out of ignorance. We always have to remember that the laws are still in place and ultimately we can be held accountable.
Again, I'd recommend that everyone consult a lawyer. The result was very interesting when I did. A lot of the time people think they know the laws and what's going on and they realize when they get stopped or caught that suddenly they don't. Make yourselves as informed as possible.
In my experience no. They won't just stop your car for talking to a prostitute. Because the prostitution loitering laws were repealed I am not sure they even have reasonable suspicion anymore to pull you over for talking to one of them. I have never been pulled over and in my time out there which is 100's of hours on AA I can only recall one time I saw a guy pulled over after talking to a hooker.
Marko Ramius
11-19-23, 21:18
While I think your risk is higher (sometimes much higher) when dealing with streetwalkers, if you play in this pool long enough you will have encounters with the police. Best to be ready for it.
Your best bet is to say as little as possible, preferably nothing at all except, "am I under arrest or am I free to go?" and "I would like an attorney present when I speak to you. " The more you say the more you can bury yourself, and sometimes even saying innocuous stuff might bury you. Remember you don't ever really know what they are after and they can and will lie to you.
One summer afternoon there was a dude who struck up a conversation with my in the Kitten's parking lot while I was waiting for my Uber. I'm 99 percent sure that he was either an undercover cop or a CI, although it is possible he was just a remarkably clueless horndog. Let's just say he asked lots of stupid questions and wanted to let me know that he knew everything that went on in the club but at the same time wanted me to share details and specifics of my activities with him. I just told him to fuck right off and after a bit of whining he did just that and I caught my Uber back to my hotel.
A long time ago I got pulled over leaving a pretty well-known massage parlor (at the time) in Renton. Ended up with me in the back of a patrol car, finally two plainclothes officers (one of whom had the same annoying disapproving air of my first wife) asked me a series of rapid-fire questions that made zero sense to me. After a lot of back and forth and me refusing to answer any of their questions and them making a lot of pretty intimidating threats they let me go. I never went back to that shop and I think a car dealer is on the site now.
This doesn't just go for your whoring activities. I had a personal dispute with an idiot employee who made some extravagant threats against me and accused me of some very serious crimes. I finally did get contacted by the local police about it. I told them I'd be happy to give my side of the story but because of the serious nature of the accusations on the table I had to have a lawyer present. They were okay with that and let me go and I never heard anything more about it.
While I think your risk is higher (sometimes much higher) when dealing with streetwalkers, if you play in this pool long enough you will have encounters with the police. Best to be ready for it.
Your best bet is to say as little as possible, preferably nothing at all except, "am I under arrest or am I free to go?" and "I would like an attorney present when I speak to you. " The more you say the more you can bury yourself, and sometimes even saying innocuous stuff might bury you. Remember you don't ever really know what they are after and they can and will lie to you.Oh believe me I have a really great criminal defense attorney on retainer. If you are ever questioned by the police I simply said "I'm not going to make any statements without my attorney present". If they continue or persist it doesn't matter what they ask or how they ask it my answer will be the same every time "I'm not going to make any statements". Even if you have done nothing wrong at all you could still end up in jail falsely accused of something. One thing specifically that people need to be mindful of is saying they were with somebody or saw somebody. Even if it's somebody they saw walking down the street. I'll give you an example. Let's say you are walking down the street in your own neighborhood and a cop pulls up alongside you and asks you "hey did you see two juvenile females walking thru here?" And you say "what did they look like?" officer responds "they both were wearing pajamas and about 14" and you reply "Yes! I saw them about 10 minutes ago around the corner by the park" Officer says thanks! Sounds innocent enough right? You aren't telling them anything criminal. You didn't do anything wrong you just happened to see them walking through your neighborhood and you were minding your own business. The problem with this is that if those two girls are found dead around the corner in the dumpster dismembered you are now a suspect because you were the last person to see them alive! This is a made up scenario that is based on real world cases where this scenario has happened before and totally innocent people go to jail. If the cops asks you about knowing anybody or seeing anybody esp somebody in this hobby it's absolutely not something you want to share with the police because you don't know what the circumstances are of this person.
All this being said. I have never ever seen anybody pulled over for talking to a SW save for one person in the last 3 years. I have picked up SW's multiple times right In front of the police. They won't do anything. There must be some kind of internal policy that prevents them from pulling over John's. It just doesn't happen. Even during the times when they have 8 squad cars out on AA at 2 am they sit there and watch girl after girl being picked up. They don't move. They don't stop anybody. Unless something changes with SPD's policies and / or the city council I wouldn't even worry about it. They have nothing and that's why they aren't going to waste there time because the girl would need to be really stupid and snitch on you for them to have anything to detain you.
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While I think your risk is higher (sometimes much higher) when dealing with streetwalkers, if you play in this pool long enough you will have encounters with the police. Best to be ready for it.This is exactly what I was told, that hobbying on the street poses the biggest risk of being arrested or having negative contact with police. You're right out in the open. Street-level john stings are the easiest and fastest way for the city to send a message to residents that they are doing something. One thing which was interesting to me is that since the police presence hasn't been as aggressive in the past couple of years and girls have been operating with seeming impunity on Aurora, it's made a lot of newbies think that the police nor the city are enforcing it. So as I said in my previous post guys got lazy thinking they won't be busted. The lawyer told me that as a result he'd been representing a lot of men who didn't know it was actually illegal nor decriminalized. And just as you said, do this long enough consistently and you will have contact at some point. Fuck around and find out.
Your best bet is to say as little as possible, preferably nothing at all except, "am I under arrest or am I free to go?" and "I would like an attorney present when I speak to you. " The more you say the more you can bury yourself, and sometimes even saying innocuous stuff might bury you. Remember you don't ever really know what they are after and they can and will lie to you.
The other thing to remember is that if they're questioning you, they probably don't have quite enough information to seal the arrest for a charge. It's not your duty to assist them in their investigation. You almost always talk your way into a crime as opposed to talking your way out of one and it also makes it difficult for a lawyer to work with your case. Alternatively, if they have solid evidence of a crime, they'll cuff you and take you in without hesitation and that's it. They don't waste time if they've got solid evidence.
Again, can't say this enough and yes I know i'm being redundant here, but consult a lawyer if you're going to partake in this activity. Learn about how SPD and the city goes about enforcement, what to do if stopped and what to expect if you do get popped. Just do it.
LikeYouKnow
11-19-23, 22:10
This is exactly what I was told, that hobbying on the street poses the biggest risk of being arrested or having negative contact with police. You're right out in the open. Street-level john stings are the easiest and fastest way for the city to send a message to residents that they are doing something. One thing which was interesting to me is that since the police presence hasn't been as aggressive in the past couple of years and girls have been operating with seeming impunity on Aurora, it's made a lot of newbies think that the police nor the city are enforcing it. So as I said in my previous post guys got lazy thinking they won't be busted. The lawyer told me that as a result he'd been representing a lot of men who didn't know it was actually illegal or decriminalized. And just as you said, do it this long enough consistently and you will have contact at some point. Fuck around and find out.
The other thing to remember is that if they're questioning you, they probably don't have quite enough information to seal the arrest for a charge. It's not your duty to assist them in their investigation. Alternatively, if they have solid evidence of a crime, they'll cuff you and take you in without hesitation and that's it. They don't waste time if they've got solid evidence.
Again, can't say this enough and yes I know i'm being redundant here, but consult a lawyer if you're going to partake in this activity. Learn about how SPD and the city goes about enforcement, what to do if stopped and what to expect if you do get popped. Just do it.Coming from a family of law enforcement, with me being the exception, remember this, Cop's tell their family and everyone they care about this "If you get in trouble, never talk to the police!" Just my two cents or more!
In my experience no. They won't just stop your car for talking to a prostitute. Because the prostitution loitering laws were repealed I am not sure they even have reasonable suspicion anymore to pull you over for talking to one of them. I have never been pulled over and in my time out there which is 100's of hours on AA I can only recall one time I saw a guy pulled over after talking to a hooker.You are mistaking can with will, a very serious mistake under the right conditions. Yes they can pull you over for contacting a known prostitute. That's not even debatable. There was a time when the police regularly pulled over people for that. I can't count how many times I have been pulled over for having a girl in my car. Now, they need to have to have more proof of a crime occurring to actually arrest you, so if you keep your mouth shut, it will just be an inconvenience. The police have moved away from this tactic probably because it just wasn't an effective deterrence. As someone mentioned, the loitering laws for the women have changed, not the patronizing laws for clients.
I saw a TNA girl on AA around 96th Saturday night. One who I would not have expected to see out there. Things must also be slowing on the internet.
I saw a TNA girl on AA around 96th Saturday night. One who I would not have expected to see out there. Things must also be slowing on the internet.Genuine newbie question: are there rules on this board against naming names in cases like this?
KitWalker1967
11-20-23, 11:11
Coming from a family of law enforcement, with me being the exception, remember this, Cop's tell their family and everyone they care about this "If you get in trouble, never talk to the police!" Just my two cents or more!The least expensive and most useful advice you'll ever receive from an attorney:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uqo5RYOp4nQ
KitWalker1967
11-20-23, 11:16
I saw a TNA girl on AA around 96th Saturday night. One who I would not have expected to see out there. Things must also be slowing on the internet.That's awesome to hear, especially if it's someone like Leilanni Moore.
MongerSeeker
11-20-23, 12:04
I agree. The thing to remember is that LE is questioning you gather evidence for a stronger case or to get enough evidence to arrest you. If the police stop you for talking to a SW the most you should ever say is that you were offering her a ride. It is good to hear that Seattle got rid of their loitering law. California had the most legally questionable loitering law. CA's loitering law essentially allowed to a cop to call what he wanted as loitering. It was so bad that some the's in CA said that it was bad law.
The other problem the on the streets are way blatant and obnoxious. Walking around in lingerie or bathing suits only riles up the locals. Here in socal many of the girls walk in the middle of the streets.
Coming from a family of law enforcement, with me being the exception, remember this, Cop's tell their family and everyone they care about this "If you get in trouble, never talk to the police!" Just my two cents or more!
AussieFury
11-20-23, 12:21
I saw a TNA girl on AA around 96th Saturday night. One who I would not have expected to see out there. Things must also be slowing on the internet.Who? This isn't T and A. We can speak openly here.
AussieFury
11-20-23, 12:22
Genuine newbie question: are there rules on this board against naming names in cases like this?Nope. No such rule. I want to hear names!
Who? This isn't T and A. We can speak openly here.Your Mom. If I knew her name I would have posted it. I have seen her face on TNA. The real point of the post was that times might be getting tough for internet girls. Next time ask with some respect and I might go back try to find her name.
I also just want to clarify for the group (and this is not aimed squarely at Colnago, I know that with his years of experience that he's aware), SWs get the charge of solicitation, johns get the charge of patronizing (also known as Sexual Exploitation by the city of Seattle). One thing I've learned is that a lot of people, particularly those new to this hobby, think that because the loitering laws were repealed that the laws for soliciting were also repealed and that sex workers can't be arrested. That is blatantly false. Two years ago one of the candidates for Seattle City Attorney wanted to decriminalize sex work in Seattle but she was called an "abolishonist" and even an anarchist by her opponent who eventually won the election. The interesting thing about this is that as soon as the new City Attorney took office she refused to prosecute any sex worker arrested for solicitation. So, essentially, she "decriminalized" sex work just as she criticized her opponent for wanting to do while still keeping solicitation laws on the books. Talk about odd. However, it's a convenient position for the city because they can resume arresting and charging SWs again at any time. I can't say this enough, a lot of people have the wrong idea about this and think they can't be arrested and charged and the truth is that yes, they can if the city so desires. That false belief sets people up for failure in the system. If an SW gets in your car and the police are interested in her, they can stop you.
Okay, this horse is now dead. I'm just passionate about people being aware.
As someone mentioned, the loitering laws for the women have changed, not the patronizing laws for clients.
I cannot wait for summer to return folks. I go cruising every night but the girls out there remain the same for the most part and they all suck ass. Sure there are some lookers but they don't provide any service. Summer brings lots of girls and that brings competition and some deals to be had. There aren't many deals to be had out there at the moment and I have never had so many girls quote 200 in my life for a car date. This past couple weeks I have heard more girls quote 200 for CFS / CBJ then ever before. Let's hope this isn't becoming the norm because that's above market rate. A quick car date is only worth so much money especially with the service you get out there. 200 for all covered is a joke LOL! I sure hope there aren't fools out there paying that and they negotiate cause even with bare everything BBBJ and BBFS I've had some really bad experiences with girls that are attractive LOL! Can't imagine what a all covered bad experience would be like! You would think a girl that you are doing BBBJ / BBFS with and that is young and attractive could never be a bad experience right? Wrong! These girls find ways to make what should be an enjoyable experience one of the worst of your life LOL!
I had a double header tonight. My first score of the night was on aurora and the other part of the double header I will post in the Everett SW section.
I went out around 11 pm to go cruising aurora. When I got there around 11 it was pretty dead there was only maybe 3 girls out. As it got closer and closer to midnight more and more girls started showing up on the track. I did a few laps before seeing a very light skinned mixed (Hispanic) girl on top near the wall. I pulled over for her and she came up to my window and she seemed nervous. Like it was her first time. She wasn't very confident in her speaking voice and gave me her prices for a quick visit and half hour. It was either 140 or 150 for a quick visit and 200 for half hour. I asked "do you do head without a condom" and she said sheepishly "yea". I was thinking to myself she's probably nervous cause she's in semi ear shot of this other SW. I told her to get in. I tried making small talk with her but she was buried in her phone and not really saying anything. This made me slightly nervous that maybe this is a rob situation. I made several more attempts to lighten the mood on the way to a spot to park and it wasn't very fruitful. I considered dropping her back off just because we weren't really vibing. I inquired as to whether she was nervous or not to which she replied "no". I confirmed with her head without a condom while on the way to the spot and again sheepishly said yea. When we got to the spot I said let's hop in the back of the car. We got back there and she hadn't mentioned anything about paying yet so I was happy and thinking at this point she must be new like I thought. She started pulling off her clothes even before I did without making any mention of payment upfront so I thought to myself yea this is going to be a fun time. I started pulling my clothes down and she was fully naked in my car and no payment upfront! This is definitely how I wanted this to go because I was nervous this was a rob situation anyways. Did the usual (kissed and sucked on her tits etc) nothing amazing because it is just a car date after all. You are limited in what you can do in the backseat of a car. Positions are limited and so is the amount of body on body contact.
I should mention before I go any further that she told me she was 19. Knowing that 1) she is really new out there like really new (maybe first day) and 2) she's 19 I felt comfortable going fully bare with her. I asked her if that would be fine and we negotiated a little bit more payment in exchange for going fully bare. She said I can't cum inside her though. I tried to get her to let me do that but she wouldn't budge. I agreed I wouldn't cum in her. Though when it came time to fuck her I felt like I would be happier putting on a rubber because I really don't like having to pull out because it kind of ruins the moment for me. I put the rubber on and fucked her doggy and came in the hat. Though in hindsight now thinking back I kinda wished I had went raw but oh well it's fine I have fucked tons of young hotties without a rubber. This date set me back just $200. Originally it was just going to be 150 but as it came closer to calling time on our date I offered to pay 50 more for another 15 (though I knew I wasn't going to use all of that LOL). Pretty good date. Nothing mind blowing. Her head skills were pretty good though and she sucked and licked really good on my balls.
I went home after this date for several hours and was bored just sitting around with not a whole lot to do so I decided why not lets go cruising for a girl to bring back to my place and have some fun here where we can have more body on body contact. The next date of the night was a super cock sucker that swallowed every drop of my cum like a good girl. I will post that report in the Everett SW section.
Jazzy Daddy
11-24-23, 00:46
Was coming back from rehearsal and drove through the area around 9:30 pm Sunday, saw a blonde near 93rd dressed in jeans and jacket. Confirmed price and bbj, found a dark spot and I got in the back seat I had to wait while she undid her belt and unbuttoned her pants. She joined me in the back seat and I was surprised when she removed her top and some really nice tits spilled out. She either liked me a lot or was super horny, because she gave me the sloppiest head I've had in awhile. The girl was grabbing my ass and pulling me forward so she could get a deep throat f $&k with a lot of gagging. Licked and sucked the boyz with passion too.
SeattleStiff
11-24-23, 07:44
Was coming back from rehearsal and drove through the area around 9:30 pm Sunday, saw a blonde near 93rd dressed in jeans and jacket. Confirmed price and bbj, found a dark spot and I got in the back seat I had to wait while she undid her belt and unbuttoned her pants. She joined me in the back seat and I was surprised when she removed her top and some really nice tits spilled out. She either liked me a lot or was super horny, because she gave me the sloppiest head I've had in awhile. The girl was grabbing my ass and pulling me forward so she could get a deep throat f $&k with a lot of gagging. Licked and sucked the boyz with passion too.Did you get a name? Sounds amazing.
Dick Hertz
11-24-23, 08:29
I will be in Seattle for five days staying near SeaTac. Is there any action on international or do I need to go to AA. Also, what is the asking price for service can someone pm me that info.
I've been almost completely disengaged from the scene on Aurora lately. I've taken a lot of time to hang-out with friends and do social more things again. During the pandemic it felt as though I'd become over-involved in the entire scene out there. That being said, a few times this past week I walked to the brewery on 95th to swill some brews with buddies. I've barely had any alcohol until late this year and it's good to unwind with friends again.
It's always interesting actually walking along Aurora vs driving. During one such walk I encountered the young lass who punched my window near 107th about a month or so ago when I wouldn't talk to her after she asked if I wanted a date, the gal who kept saying, "I'm not a wh**e, I'm a PROSTITUTE!" after I yelled at her for punching my window. I don't think she recognized me but I asked her if she were still a "high-class" prostitute on Aurora when I walked by her and she gave me an odd look, LOL. I probably shouldn't have done it, but she was such a raging c**t the last time I met her that I couldn't resist. On another night I ran into tall WSW April as she waited at the bus stop, some of you old-timers here will remember her and I haven't seen her out there in a looong time as she doesn't work the street anymore. She lives in city housing in the neighborhood and she told me that lately whenever she walks to / from her apartment other girls out there tell her that she can't work the corners and they want to fight about it. She has to convince them that she's not even working, she lives there and just walking through. If what she says is true then it must be interesting for local women, especially young women, who live near Aurora to have to walk to the bus or elsewhere along AA. I also walked-up on a very nice young short spinner brunette who always seems to be out in the evenings from 100th to 90th, she's either white or very light-skinned or Latina, can't figure which, but she has a killer little body. I've talked to her before and she's all safety but she is friendly. As I passed her on the sidewalk she asked me what I was up to and if I wanted a date, since I was on foot perhaps we could go to my place if I lived nearby, LOL. I told her that I already knew her service offerings and that we were not a match. I also ran into Latina Pricalla as she got off bus, haven't seen her in a while and her number doesn't go through, she was dressed nicely in tall knee boots and nice overcoat along with newly-dyed blonde hair. I didn't actually recognize her with the new 'do and she had to stop me for a chat. I've always liked Pricilla, she does herself up nicely whenever she goes out. I came across a small few others, most of whom seemed to want nothing to do with me since I was on foot or they just looked at me and smiled. Generally seemed to be somewhat light out there on SWs, though, and cold. I know I wouldn't want to be standing out there right now.
More on-foot adventures are sure to come as I'll probably be socializing more often and walking instead of drinking and driving through the area. Definitely a different perspective.
That's awesome to hear, especially if it's someone like Leilanni Moore.Hahahahaha. That would be funny.
Tonight I went out cruising both in South Everett and as well as on AA. The first pickup of the night was a few blocks south of Casino road. I saw a pretty girl walking down the street in a plaid shirt. I flipped around and pulled over for her and made some small talk. Very pretty girl. On the younger side as well. I asked her if she wanted a ride cause it's cold out. She seemed a bit hesitant but she was like sure okay. When she got in she had a small bag with her like one of those reusable grocery bags filled with some stuff and had a vape. I asked her what her name was and after she gave that to me I asked her how old she was. She told me she was 19. I kind of looked over at her like Oh wow. I am not sure if that was actually the case. Who really knows though. This was about 4 am I picked her up. I was trying to gauge the situation while I was driving her to the area that she was headed. There was kind of an awkward silence. I wasn't sure if she was a civilian or homeless and didn't want to offend her by asking. She was very pretty. Seemed like she was homeless ish. I got her into my car under some false pretenses a little bit so I wasn't trying to make the situation awkward and ask if she wanted some extra money while we were still a little ways from where I was dropping her off. I could just feel that it was probably going to be a no. I got her to the area where she wanted to be dropped off and I asked her if she wanted to make some extra money and offered her some but she very politely declined. She got out and away she went.
I then headed towards AA and drove around for a bit. I saw a couple new white girls and one Russian lady that I had seen out there once before. I pulled over for her and she told me her prices and I told her I wanted BBBJ. She told me $200 for BBBJ. I politely declined. If it was BBBJ and cfs for $200 I told her I would do it. She is very pretty and has a thick Russian accent. I have bigger tits then her LOL. I don't know if she has an ass. Very pretty though.
I pulled over for one of the new white girls and it was a hard no on BBBJ. I pulled over for the other one and she seemed like I could convince her but I wasn't super motivated to be honest. She is good looking but I just wasn't in the mood. She was thinking real hard about it though. I moved on.
I saw a BSW hanging out on the crack heads block near Dunn Lumber and I pulled up to her. She was on the corner with another BSW whom I see on a daily basis out there. She has a super nice ass and is always slumped over! I have never ever seen her standing straight or walking normally one time. She is always just zoned out on blues I think. Any regular on aurora knows who I am talking about. This girl told me $60 for BJ. I said without condom? She hesitated a little bit but said sure. On the way to the spot I asked her who her friend was cause I actually have never spoken to her cause she is always zoned out on blues it looks like at a bus stop or somewhere else. She told me that is her sister. I said "your blood sister?" and she said yea. I then asked her if she had ever done a date with her. She said no. I asked her if she would be receptive to that and she said maybe. She told me that she just lost her new phone today and didn't want her to snap on me, that she is in a super bad mood right now and she can't deal with it. After some more small talk on the matter I shelved the topic.
This is where it gets funny. While we were passing the cemetery this girl told me that in the past year or so 3-4 hookers have been found strung up in the cemetery! She told me that she knew one of the hookers that was found dead there. I was like are you serious? And she was like yea. Obviously I wasn't buying this and pressed her on it but she kept telling me that it really happened and that "did you know Seattle has more serial killers then anywhere? We used too. We used too. I don't know of any active serial killers in Seattle at the moment LOL. As we were passing the Seattle Inn she then told me that they found a 12 year old girl in the dumpster there in August and that's one of the reasons it was closed down! She told me that this girl took the wrong bus on the way home and ended up there in that dumpster _ At this point I'm just like oh please I would have heard about that on the news! She was like "The city doesn't want people to know about it because it would scare the tourists away. That's why it wasn't on the news. " I was just like uh huh.
We got to my spot and she gave me a pretty good BBBJ. Nothing to write home about had a million blowjobs though. She told me some things about Mr Lee (owner of emerald) but I'm not going to post them because this lady is just completely full of it and I don't want to continue to write up her fantasy stories. This girl had quite the imagination!!
I saw a TNA girl on AA around 96th Saturday night. One who I would not have expected to see out there. Things must also be slowing on the internet.I have seen Summerbreeze and Sophia100 out there.
I'm wondering if this is Jasmine, she is often mistaken as a BSW because she is Middle Eastern and has a great body. I don't see any local BSWs hanging around 96th and southward with the dealers and other junkies who fit that description, the only other junkie BSWs I see are fat, and usually only one or two of them at that. And I'll add that I often see Jasmine slumped-over in a fentanyl nod. She actually used to be a good date when she first arrived a few years ago, would make an effort at dressing-up and always coherent. I actually didn't know she was homeless. A year ago around Christmas I ran into her on 96th, she was dirty, dressed for outdoor survival and I didn't recognize her. She flagged me down and wanted a date, I declined because she was so out of it and so dirty. She asked for a ride but then nodded right then and there in the vehicle when she got in, slumped-over with her head on her knees and I had a hard time getting her out. Since then I've run into her many many times in that area, often coming out of some junkie tent or generally nodding on the street. I have zero interest in picking her up again, ever.
That is, if that's her. But the description matches and she's always out there.
The only other thin local BSW who hangs around the 96th/junkie crowd of whom I'm aware is a light-skinned named Becca. You might see / have seen out there infrequently. She is very short and now very very skinny. She's mainly a crack-user and gets amped out of her god damn mind sometimes. She's bi-polar and the crack use makes her nuts. I don't see her out there very often, though, and definitely not a street-slumper. I run whenever I do see her out there, because that b*h will jump in her truck and fucking chase me for a date, scares the living hell out of me. The interesting thing about all of this is that she's actually likeable, however i've had some fucking eeeeeepic arguments with her so I stay the fuck away from her now.
Aside from walking through the area to get some beers with friends, i'm really, seriously, not out there at all lately. Definitely no cruising as that scene is just sort of dead to me right now. Accordingly, i'm not sure if there are any newer local BSWs in that crowd who've recently shown-up out there.
I saw a BSW hanging out on the crack heads block near Dunn Lumber and I pulled up to her. She was on the corner with another BSW whom I see on a daily basis out there. She has a super nice ass and is always slumped over! I have never ever seen her standing straight or walking normally one time. She is always just zoned out on blues I think. Any regular on aurora knows who I am talking aboutI recently had an out-of-towner visiting BSW tell me that an underage girl was decapitated at The Emerald and that's the real reason why the city went after those motels, LOL. It's so interesting to hear the whacky stories these girls tell and they really believe it all. They definitely live in a bubble which is very much confined to their very limited local social zones of the street.
This is where it gets funny. While we were passing the cemetery this girl told me that in the past year or so 3-4 hookers have been found strung up in the cemetery! She told me that she knew one of the hookers that was found dead there. I was like are you serious? And she was like yea. Obviously I wasn't buying this and pressed her on it but she kept telling me that it really happened and that "did you know Seattle has more serial killers then anywhere? We used too. We used too. I don't know of any active serial killers in Seattle at the moment LOL. As we were passing the Seattle Inn she then told me that they found a 12 year old girl in the dumpster there in August and that's one of the reasons it was closed down! She told me that this girl took the wrong bus on the way home and ended up there in that dumpster _ At this point I'm just like oh please I would have heard about that on the news! She was like "The city doesn't want people to know about it because it would scare the tourists away. That's why it wasn't on the news. " I was just like uh huh.
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11-30-23, 19:37
This is where it gets funny. While we were passing the cemetery this girl told me that in the past year or so 3-4 hookers have been found strung up in the cemetery! She told me that she knew one of the hookers that was found dead there. I was like are you serious? And she was like yea. Obviously I wasn't buying this and pressed her on it but she kept telling me that it really happened and that "did you know Seattle has more serial killers then anywhere? We used too. We used too. I don't know of any active serial killers in Seattle at the moment LOL. As we were passing the Seattle Inn she then told me that they found a 12 year old girl in the dumpster there in August and that's one of the reasons it was closed down! She told me that this girl took the wrong bus on the way home and ended up there in that dumpster _ At this point I'm just like oh please I would have heard about that on the news! She was like "The city doesn't want people to know about it because it would scare the tourists away. That's why it wasn't on the news. " I was just like uh huh.
!So, about a year ago several women showed up dead in the South End (South Park / Georgetown area). We (people in that area) adamantly said that this was way too suspicious, there are these random dead women and their bodies are discovered dumped in weird spots and there were no clues to who did it. Seattle police that there was no investigation of a serial killer at the time. King County also released a statement saying they were not investigating a serial killer, but just about all of us knew that someone was out there killing people. That may be her imagination up north, but down here there was something going on that walked talked and smelled like a serial killer but the police were definitely denying the case.
You can look it up online. Both departments said they were rumors, but the bodies were found and no killer (s) have been apprehended.
"The King County Sheriff's Office is aware of unsubstantiated on-line social media reports that select death investigations, in the vicinity of South Park / SR509, may share similar characteristics," the statement read. "At this time, the Sheriff's Office has identified no evidence affirming this for any cases under our jurisdiction. ".
I'm wondering if this is Jasmine, she is often mistaken as a BSW because she is Middle Eastern and has a great body. I don't see any local BSWs hanging around 96th and southward with the dealers and other junkies who fit that description, the only other junkie BSWs I see are fat, and usually only one or two of them at that.This girl is definitely black. The one with the nice ass who is always nodding off at bus stops and shit. At least I think she is black. Pretty dark black skin. I think she is always wearing a wig. I don't know that I've ever seen a middle eastern chic that black. She's not black as night but she's a good halfway there.
This is definitely the first time I've picked up a girl on the crack block. I've stopped many times to get a closer look and chat with some of the ladies that work on that block but never done a pick up. Though there is this one white girl who is definitely a crack head who keeps jebaiting me! I've stopped like 7 or 8 times for her in the last month! She looks real young and pretty when you are driving by. Then you stop and you realize she has no front teeth and is a crack head. She keeps getting me! If she had a full set of teeth she actually would be attractive. She doesn't just sit on the crack block she walks all over the oak tree plaza area which is why I keep not recognizing her.
I was out cruising on AA a few nights ago and pulled over near the lowes parking lot for a chic who was in a parking lot and she offered a blowjob for 10 bucks LOL. I declined. She had no front teeth. I told her I don't do gumjobs. I stopped for another girl around the Walgreen north of 145 that last night who offered a blowjob for 20. Another crack head but she had front teeth. I declined. I was kind of taking a survey of the crack heads looking for a diamond in a rough. I have noticed in my prospecting that the crackheads on Aurora are much more hardcore then the junkies in my local area. The ones in my local area all have teeth for the most part. I got offers from two separate woman in one night out on aurora this week that had no front teeth! Lots of gumjobs out there to be had if that is your sort of thing LOL!
One thing I failed to mention in my last after action report was that I changed my jacket. I was going out in my new jacket that I got for about a week. I kept getting no after no after no. Like I'd never experienced before! Including the rates were higher then normal. I was thinking to myself what the heck is going on. I finally thought to myself hmmmm. Maybe it's this jacket. It is kind of big maybe they think I'm huge! So I changed my jacket back to a sweater that I normally wear and instantly got a pickup on my first night out and the rates lowered quite a bit as well on subsequent nights! Getting 120 FS offers from good looking white girls! Not BBBJ with FS though. Clearly that jacket was too big and it made me look fat LOL. Never wearing that damn thing again out there! I was having a miserable go of it. I just couldn't believe things had changed that drastically. Turns out it was just me.
Ah, I think I know to whom you're referring. I've not dated nor talked to her, she's slightly thick but enticing, probably in her 30's, crazy-looking wig, always bent-over at traffic whenever she's at a bus stop. I don't see her that often, but when I do she's mostly at AM / PM hanging with that crowd from what I recall. Again I'm not out there much these days, though, so I don't know what she's doing now. I didn't think about her because I've only seen her out there infrequently.
This girl is definitely black. The one with the nice ass who is always nodding off at bus stops and shit. At least I think she is black. Pretty dark black skin. I think she is always wearing a wig. I don't know that I've ever seen a middle eastern chic that black. She's not black as night but she's a good halfway there
Is the girl without front teeth a white blonde? If so I'm wondering if that's Lauren. If that's her, guys have posted reports about her here but not very recently. She approached me once and I declined because she just wasn't in a good state and I also find missing front teeth to be unattractive. She was really nice, though. Another white girl who hangs around with the same crowd is Candace. In all of your journeys through Aurora you've had to see her out there at least once. She's about 5' 8', slender, always dressed nicely in a very short miniskirt or tight yoga pants, she has the body which draws men in, browinsh hair, decent face. She gets me every damn time I see her. She's also now missing a front tooth after she had a seizure and fell into something. Heavy crack user which is why she has seizures now. Last time I dated her was years ago, she's straight-forward and can be difficult but she always got the job done. She's been out there for at least 12 years. I know who most of these SWs are because most of them have been around for yeeeaaars. A good many of them were actually attractive back in the day but street life has seriously taken a toll. 10 years ago a lot of these women were housed, most them had rooms at what is now The Emerald which used to be The Orion. That's where all of the action was, up that way and it was mostly local. Fentanyl and homelessness really hit a lot of them pretty hard. A few years ago an SW approached me and I didn't recognize her at all, turned-out she was a girl I'd seen on a regular basis about four years prior. She was completely destroyed, looked like a make-up artist had done her over for a new version of "The Exorcist". I couldn't believe it. She asked, "you don't recognize me, do you? Do I look that bad?". It was awful. I definitely declined a date but gave her a ride and then she asked if she could have all of my change in quarters which was sitting in a cup holder. I found out that she'd died a few months after that. She was smoking-hot for the first few years she was out there and i've always liked her because she was really nice.
This is definitely the first time I've picked up a girl on the crack block. I've stopped many times to get a closer look and chat with some of the ladies that work on that block but never done a pick up. Though there is this one white girl who is definitely a crack head who keeps jebaiting me! I've stopped like 7 or 8 times for her in the last month! She looks real young and pretty when you are driving by. Then you stop and you realize she has no front teeth and is a crack head. She keeps getting me! If she had a full set of teeth she actually would be attractive. She doesn't just sit on the crack block she walks all over the oak tree plaza area which is why I keep not recognizing her.
I decided to clean-out my street-cruising vehicle today and found some 9 mm bullets next to the passenger seat. Assuming they belong to the SW who pulled a gun on me a little over a month ago. I heard something drop just prior to her pulling the gun. Just a reminder for everyone to watch your asses out there, a lot of the SWs out there think that they won't get into trouble because the city hasn't been going after them.
Ah, I think I know to whom you're referring. I've not dated nor talked to her, she's slightly thick but enticing, probably in her 30's, crazy-looking wig, always bent-over at traffic whenever she's at a bus stop. I don't see her that often, but when I do she's mostly at AM / PM hanging with that crowd from what I recall. Again I'm not out there much these days, though, so I don't know what she's doing now. I didn't think about her because I've only seen her out there infrequently.
Is the girl without front teeth a white blonde? If so I'm wondering if that's Lauren. If that's her, guys have posted reports about her here but not very recently. She approached me once and I declined because she just wasn't in a good state and I also find missing front teeth to be unattractive. She was really nice, though. Another white girl who hangs around with the same crowd is Candace. In all of your journeys through Aurora you've had to see her out there at least once. She's about 5' 8', slender, always dressed nicely in a very short miniskirt or tight yoga pants, she has the body which draws men in, browinsh hair, decent face. She gets me every damn time I see her. She's also now missing a front tooth after she had a seizure and fell into something. Heavy crack user which is why she has seizures now. Last time I dated her was years ago, she's straight-forward and can be difficult but she always got the job done. She's been out there for at least 12 years. I know who most of these SWs are because most of them have been around for yeeeaaars. A good many of them were actually attractive back in the day but street life has seriously taken a toll. 10 years ago a lot of these women were housed, most them had rooms at what is now The Emerald which used to be The Orion. That's where all of the action was, up that way and it was mostly local. Fentanyl and homelessness really hit a lot of them pretty hard. A few years ago an SW approached me and I didn't recognize her at all, turned-out she was a girl I'd seen on a regular basis about four years prior. She was completely destroyed, looked like a make-up artist had done her over for a new version of "The Exorcist". I couldn't believe it. She asked, "you don't recognize me, do you? Do I look that bad?". It was awful. I definitely declined a date but gave her a ride and then she asked if she could have all of my change in quarters which was sitting in a cup holder. I found out that she'd died a few months after that. She was smoking-hot for the first few years she was out there and i've always liked her because she was really nice.That is definitely the girl. The black girl that is always nodded out at the bus stops. I saw her inside the AM PM bent over by the coolers a few nights ago while I was getting a drink. I see her out there A LOT. She's always out there when I am out there. She has a killer ass but never once seen her stand up straight LOL. So it's a pass from me. But. Now that I think about it. If she's that faded she probably wouldn't watch the clock that's for sure Or maybe put up much of a fuss. In my experience with girls that are nodding off in my car (not from girls I picked up on AA) they don't put up much of a fuss about anything. They are pretty chill. Still though I'm probably not going to pick her up.
It could be lauren. I'm not sure. Probably is. She has that far away look that she's going to be an absolute gem. Then you get up close and realize she has no front teeth / isn't a gem. She gets me every damn time. At night it's hard to tell. So my rule is if they look just mid on the pass by they are definitely going to be ugly or close to it up close. It has never failed me.
1st time I saw Candance it was maybe 2009 or 2010. She was smoking hot. I remember she was wearing some straight legged jeans and a platform shoe that very unique. Back than she was charging me. 4 so I stuck with her for a long time. Sometime maybe 2014 or so, I noticed some changes that seem to indicate a problem that was getting out of control. Previous to that, she seemed to keep her drug use at a level that wasn't interfering with her ability to do business. We always got a long. Man, could she rock a mini dress.
It's been a while I think since I've posted a post date report. The last few BBBJ's I've gotten out there weren't anything really memorable. Despite both girls swallowing they weren't super attractive but weren't super ugly either. Nothing to write home about.
Tonight I went out cruising on the ho stroll for a little bit. Weren't many girls out this early am. I was on one of my final laps of the stroll and noticed a girl on bottom that I hadn't really seen before so I thought I better flip a ***** and go and check her out. I came up from behind her in my car and noticed that she was a girl I had talked to the previous night. In that encounter I asked her for BBBJ and she said it would be "extra". I asked how extra? She said it would be 300. I then was like Naw. She then said 200? I kind of scoffed and said nah I'm good and drove off. I was looking for a good deal at the time. As I drove away though I was thinking to myself hmmmmm I really should have countered that because she is quite attractive. Though I just was thrown off by the high number right away that I thought it probably wouldn't even be good head anyways.
This encounter went a little bit different. I was in the mood to negotiate. I rolled up on her and asked for BBBJ and she said the same thing that it would be extra. She had been definitely drinking so she probably didn't recognize me from the night before. She said 200. I said 200 for BBBJ? She said yes. I didn't give her a yes or a no. I could tell she was drunk or very tipsy. She kept kind of talking and was like "I have to charge you extra" and I was like "no you don't baby". She was like "yes I do". I kept on at it and being friendly with her. She mentioned to me that she was cold and really wanted in my car. She finally said to me "how much can you afford?" I thought about it for a few moments and I said "how about 140?" She said Ok and got right in! Mind you when I pulled up she told me it would be 120 for 15 minutes FS. I managed to finesse her for a BBBJ and what I thought would be CFS for just an extra 20 bucks! LOL! This girl was Mexican and in her early 20's with a fat ass. Very light skinned. I'd say unless you asked you might think she was European in the dark. Almost Romanian looking with the hair. Those girls are light skinned with black hair too.
We found a spot behind an abandoned building. After we had parked she pulled out her phone and confirmed to me "140 without a condom right?" I said "yes". I pulled out my phone and gave her the 140 to her cash app after I scanned her code. My heart was beating a little bit faster. I had just had a red bull and in my mind I'm thinking I might get to raw dog this girl cause normally they specify that the FS is covered * She didn't mention anything about that. Given that she was tipsy as well I thought I got a shot here at sticking my pp in her without a helmet.
We moved to the back seat and I kissed her titties a little bit and got a pretty decent blowjob for a couple of minutes. My mind still on the FS, I cut short the BJ and told her I was ready to smash. Told her to get doggy style and I'll just stand up outside the car. She got in position on the wrong side with her ass facing my face before I had even got out of the car yet. And still no mention of a condom so I was like score! I quickly got out and to the other side and spit on my cock and fucked her doggy style half way out the car. Her ass was nice and fat and she had her feet on the ground with her hands on my back seat. I came honestly pretty quickly in her pussy. It happens. It was a good ride. She made some pretty good moaning noises too which was hot.
I offered her a plan B that I had in my glove compartment but she told me she was already on birth control. I'll save that for another ho All in all it was a great sesh for only 140 bucks. I really scored on this one. Normally CIP is extra. Though I've been lucky on that a number of times before. This girl was a real straight shooter on the pricing all up front and no upsell! It really helped that she was drunk LOL. I dropped her off at her spot and off my way. Still giggling to myself that I got BBBJ and BBFS feat. CIP for just an extra 20 LOL! Very good looking girl too. In my experience it's rare that you find a really attractive girl that is out there drunk because well. This is what tends to happen They are just chill and down for whatever in my experience.
Be careful of 137th st otherwise known as "the wall". I have noticed over the last several weeks they have been making arrests there. Including one a couple of days ago.
Just curious if anyone has any experience with this SW, goes by Ava or Avia and she's almost always working south of 95th what seems to be every night. I've generally been avoiding Aurora lately but came upon her the other night as I had to drive through. She's very spinnery and better-looking in person vs the photos below. I've run into her several times over the past six months and she's very friendly whenever I do run into her, often coming over just to say hello and exchange a laugh or two. She seems to be very limited on menu and services which is why I haven't dated her, yet despite all of this she still greets me without any attitude. Again, photos don't do her body any justice, she turns my head every damn time I see her. For all of her walking and standing I never see her get picked-up though I do see a lot of guys stopping for her. Just wondering how is her experience for anyone whom has actually dated her, I'm definitely curious.
https://withescorts.com/escorts/335878850351210496
Some are probably sick of my posting this but I really do think that it's always worth repeating - back in September I extracted data from a file provided by SPD / City of Seattle and found that the only arrests involving prostitution / sexual exploitation anywhere in Seattle city limits going back to 2020 have only occurred along Aurora Ave. Accordingly, I was able to determine that stings primarily occurred in three locations along Aurora: In the Lowe's / KK lot (the largest number of arrests in recent years), the area around 137th and the 100 blocks south of 105th. The former two are the most popular sting spots by a long-shot going back o 2019. Just a heads-up to be super extra vigilant when approaching or being approached by any female in any of those locations.
Probably time to get a new data file from SPD. I don't expect that anything has changed, but it's always interesting to take a look.
Be careful of 137th st otherwise known as "the wall". I have noticed over the last several weeks they have been making arrests there. Including one a couple of days ago.
Just curious if anyone has any experience with this SW, goes by Ava or Avia and she's almost always working south of 95th what seems to be every night. I've generally been avoiding Aurora lately but came upon her the other night as I had to drive through. She's very spinnery and better-looking in person vs the photos below. I've run into her several times over the past six months and she's very friendly whenever I do run into her, often coming over just to say hello and exchange a laugh or two. She seems to be very limited on menu and services which is why I haven't dated her, yet despite all of this she still greets me without any attitude. Again, photos don't do her body any justice, she turns my head every damn time I see her. For all of her walking and standing I never see her get picked-up though I do see a lot of guys stopping for her. Just wondering how is her experience for anyone whom has actually dated her, I'm definitely curious.
https://withescorts.com/escorts/335878850351210496You should post the pictures here I can't on any web browser get that link to work.
Some are probably sick of my posting this but I really do think that it's always worth repeating - back in September I extracted data from a file provided by SPD / City of Seattle and found that the only arrests involving prostitution / sexual exploitation anywhere in Seattle city limits going back to 2020 have only occurred along Aurora Ave. Accordingly, I was able to determine that stings primarily occurred in three locations along Aurora: In the Lowe's / KK lot (the largest number of arrests in recent years), the area around 137th and the 100 blocks south of 105th. The former two are the most popular sting spots by a long-shot going back o 2019. Just a heads-up to be super extra vigilant when approaching or being approached by any female in any of those locations.Thanks for the intel. Those spots are also where SWs tend to aggregate afaik. My question is, what time of the day do stings usually happen? Do they do it at late night?
Just curious if anyone has any experience with this SW, goes by Ava or Avia and she's almost always working south of 95th what seems to be every night. I've generally been avoiding Aurora lately but came upon her the other night as I had to drive through. She's very spinnery and better-looking in person vs the photos below. I've run into her several times over the past six months and she's very friendly whenever I do run into her, often coming over just to say hello and exchange a laugh or two. She seems to be very limited on menu and services which is why I haven't dated her, yet despite all of this she still greets me without any attitude. Again, photos don't do her body any justice, she turns my head every damn time I see her. For all of her walking and standing I never see her get picked-up though I do see a lot of guys stopping for her. Just wondering how is her experience for anyone whom has actually dated her, I'm definitely curious.I often see her ads on listcrawler. Tried to text her but couldn't even get her to text back LOL.
Thanks for the intel. Those spots are also where SWs tend to aggregate afaik. My question is, what time of the day do stings usually happen? Do they do it at late night?They typically occur during the afternoon to early evening commute. I haven't looked at the full set of data from SPD but I haven't seen any stings conducted during the early am or late PM.
Just curious if anyone has any experience with this SW, goes by Ava or Avia and she's almost always working south of 95th what seems to be every night. I've generally been avoiding Aurora lately but came upon her the other night as I had to drive through. She's very spinnery and better-looking in person vs the photos below. I've run into her several times over the past six months and she's very friendly whenever I do run into her, often coming over just to say hello and exchange a laugh or two. She seems to be very limited on menu and services which is why I haven't dated her, yet despite all of this she still greets me without any attitude. Again, photos don't do her body any justice, she turns my head every damn time I see her. For all of her walking and standing I never see her get picked-up though I do see a lot of guys stopping for her. Just wondering how is her experience for anyone whom has actually dated her, I'm definitely curious.
https://withescorts.com/escorts/335878850351210496This girl here? https://escortalligator.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/washington/tacoma/161814054.
I recognize her. See her every single night in the area of Dunn Lumber. Never once stopped for her or ever been tempted LOL There is way way better out there.
But of course you'd say that. Wouldn't expect anything less, LOL. But i'm curious, which girls out there are "better" to you? You never seem to give any of us any indication of any specific SW(s) who are good to pick-up out there but yet you seem very willing to criticize everyone else's selection whenever they share with the board. If a gal doesn't appeal to you, fine, that's life, but it's strange how you always have to appear as if you're superior by letting all of us know that you don't like another poster's choice or taste while at the same time providing zero actual information about any providers you've picked-up, like and enjoy. I don't understand that. Many different tastes and varieties out there, man. I probably wouldn't like all of the SWs you've picked-up (whoever they are, we don't know), but i'd not slam you for doing so. Whatever is your taste is your thing, not mine.
You do you, man, but it is rather strange.
This girl here? https://escortalligator.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/washington/tacoma/161814054.
Never once stopped for her or ever been tempted LOL There is way way better out there.
According to the timestamps on the individual arrests in the data, the vast majority of arrests seem to occur between 5 pm-9 pm. There are some isolated records with a timestamp of midnight, but those are limited, and all of those took place around 137th. So, arrests for patronizing / sexual exploitation do happen outside of the normal commute times but they are rare. When I consulted a lawyer a few months ago, he told me that SPD are generally "sloppy" about their stings, they set them up quickly and net as many guys as possible in the shortest amount of time possible. They get things wrong from time to time because, as he said, they generally have a careless attitude about it. I don't know what's true, just repeating what I was told. But it's important to note that SPD can change their tactics at any time, so although this data does, I think, provide good intel, they can suddenly switch it up. I think that when the motels were open and active it was easy for SPD to net a lot of arrests without having to do too much because people were generally careless about how they went about it out there. One thing the lawyer told me was that a lot of his clients actually believed that prostitution had been decriminalized because the cops didn't appear to be doing anything, so they approached any girl out there without any fear. Then, of course, they got popped. So, preaching to the choir here, always be as vigilant as possible.
Thanks for the intel. Those spots are also where SWs tend to aggregate afaik. My question is, what time of the day do stings usually happen? Do they do it at late night?
But of course you'd say that. Wouldn't expect anything less, LOL. But i'm curious, which girls out there are "better" to you? You never seem to give any of us any indication of any specific SW(s) who are good to pick-up out there but yet you seem very willing to criticize everyone else's selection whenever they share with the board. If a gal doesn't appeal to you, fine, that's life, but it's strange how you always have to appear as if you're superior by letting all of us know that you don't like another poster's choice or taste while at the same time providing zero actual information about any providers you've picked-up, like and enjoy. I don't understand that. Many different tastes and varieties out there, man.
You do you, man, but it is rather strange.I wasn't even criticizing you bro. You are super super sensitive. All I said was there is way way better then her out there which objectively is facts. I was actually being nice about it. She looks like a cafeteria lady and a shapeless blob! She's the definition of bleh. I dunno when those photos on listcrawler were taken but that's her at her absolute peak all dolled up and she's not even that good looking. Mind you those are professionally taken photos heavily edited in photoshop LOL! She looks heavier in person. Maybe sucked some fat out of there or she gained weight LOL.
To suggest that the girls I've dated is some mystery is pretty comical. I have something like 400 posts on this board and have shared many many reports of the girls I've picked up on AA and have taken to my house. Your just mad that I don't name my girls cause you can't find top shelf unicorns out there like me. Stay mad bro.
But of course you'd say that. Wouldn't expect anything less, LOL. But i'm curious, which girls out there are "better" to you? You never seem to give any of us any indication of any specific SW(s) who are good to pick-up out there but yet you seem very willing to criticize everyone else's selection whenever they share with the board. If a gal doesn't appeal to you, fine, that's life, but it's strange how you always have to appear as if you're superior by letting all of us know that you don't like another poster's choice or taste while at the same time providing zero actual information about any providers you've picked-up, like and enjoy. I don't understand that. Many different tastes and varieties out there, man. I probably wouldn't like all of the SWs you've picked-up (whoever they are, we don't know), but i'd not slam you for doing so. Whatever is your taste is your thing, not mine.
You do you, man, but it is rather strange.Don't even bother with NoobJohn1. Dude has 400+ posts like 4 months, yet nothing of REAL substance. Claims to be a baller, yet he's picking up SWs. Dude has watched Pretty Woman too many times and thinks he's going to pull off a Richard Gere LOL. His responses are comical and asinine. I genuinely believe that he's a teenager. The way he talks and his matter-of-factly statements that are absolutely ridiculous (check out Rant thread), makes me believe that he might even be a virgin still.
NoobJohn1 has had several posts redacted because of being argumentative. Makes me believe that a lot of what he posts as fact is really just opinions and he has nothing solid. Keep doing you
CoronaLime
12-17-23, 15:19
You both piss up wind.
Go bang woman with wang instead. Much better. Ok? Ok.
Man the haters have collapsed into absolute delirium on here. Genuinely laughing my ass off here. Here is more non helpful and non information of substance. Cause I am such a non contributing member to this board.
I have created a Google Maps with the arrest data from the SPD dataset from 2012-2023. I have done my best to reproduce the data in it's entirety. It is missing some arrests still due to this being a rough draft and the complexity of working with data of this size. I will fine tune the python script I have written to include the missing arrests over the coming days. I will also what the dataset says the offense is later. There are three offenses for prostitution in the dataset. Assisting or Promoting Prostitution, Prostitution, and Purchasing Prostitution. The vast majority of entries just say "Prostitution" for the offense. Now that you can visualize where the prostitution is in the city you can see that South Jackson Street in China Town has the most prostitution activity outside of Aurora. The Latitude and Longitude comes directly from the datasets at the time of the arrest.
https://www.google.com/maps/d/edit?mid=1t7Ubc8UAovkXHWvoHrJUQl-S-p-6peU&usp=sharing
Man the haters have collapsed into absolute delirium on here. Genuinely laughing my ass off here. Here is more non helpful and non information of substance. Cause I am such a non contributing member to this board.
I have created a Google Maps with the arrest data from the SPD dataset from 2012-2023. I have done my best to reproduce the data in it's entirety. It is missing some arrests still due to this being a rough draft and the complexity of working with data of this size. I will fine tune the python script I have written to include the missing arrests over the coming days. I will also what the dataset says the offense is later. There are three offenses for prostitution in the dataset. Assisting or Promoting Prostitution, Prostitution, and Purchasing Prostitution. The vast majority of entries just say "Prostitution" for the offense. Now that you can visualize where the prostitution is in the city you can see that South Jackson Street in China Town has the most prostitution activity outside of Aurora. The Latitude and Longitude comes directly from the datasets at the time of the arrest.
https://www.google.com/maps/d/edit?mid=1t7Ubc8UAovkXHWvoHrJUQl-S-p-6peU&usp=sharingThere are about 469 arrests that are not currently on the map due to most of them being entered into the dataset at the same latitude and longitude (most commonly popular sting spots like KK). This is why the KK does not show any arrests currently because they were all entered in the same lat and long in the data. I am using python and regular expressions to process all of this data. It's tricky.
MongerSeeker
12-20-23, 14:37
I wonder what percentage of the arrests were sting operations. ? Using such a long time period is a bit misleading. It is important to remember that the city of Seattle did away with the loitering law several years ago. So it would be much to more accurate to show a map or statistics when the law was in effect. It is possible that LE has been arresting any guy that happens to stop for a decoy. This would be a good way for vice to bump up their numbers and look good. Hard to say since I do not live up there.
Man the haters have collapsed into absolute delirium on here. Genuinely laughing my ass off here. Here is more non helpful and non information of substance. Cause I am such a non contributing member to this board.
I have created a Google Maps with the arrest data from the SPD dataset from 2012-2023. I have done my best to reproduce the data in it's entirety. It is missing some arrests still due to this being a rough draft and the complexity of working with data of this size. I will fine tune the python script I have written to include the missing arrests over the coming days. I will also what the dataset says the offense is later. There are three offenses for prostitution in the dataset. Assisting or Promoting Prostitution, Prostitution, and Purchasing Prostitution. The vast majority of entries just say "Prostitution" for the offense. Now that you can visualize where the prostitution is in the city you can see that South Jackson Street in China Town has the most prostitution activity outside of Aurora. The Latitude and Longitude comes directly from the datasets at the time of the arrest.
https://www.google.com/maps/d/edit?mid=1t7Ubc8UAovkXHWvoHrJUQl-S-p-6peU&usp=sharing
The last data file which I imported into my database was from September. In that file, there is an OFFENSE_PARENT_GROUP field for "prostitution offenses" and an OFFENSE field containing "purchasing prostitution". The other two are "assisting or promoting prostitution" and simply "prostitution". I focused on records for purchasing which contains records going back to late 2016. Of those, the vast majority of arrests are along Aurora Ave. There are a few records here and there for other areas of the city including International District, downtown and Capitol Hill, but we're talking less than a handful for each from late 2016 onward. Since that time the vast, vast majority of arrests for "purchasing prostitution" have been along Aurora Ave. Of those, most are at 125th which is the Lowe's lot. I don't think anyone is or ever was surprised by that. But, I will mention that this is a stale snapshot from September, it's entirely possible that other arrests for purchasing prostitution have been made in other parts of the city since then.
If going back to 2012, I know from personal anecdotal experience that there were other areas of the city which had strolls at that time. The AAA / Denny stroll being probably the most known and i'd argue was probably the busiest stroll on weekends around that time and was very similar to how Aurora Ave has been the past few years. But, one could find SWs in Pioneer Square, ID or Rainier Ave at that time as well. The AAA / Denny area was completely shut-down when Amazon started constructing their HQ in that area as well as a ton of new apartment buildings. The other areas seem to have fallen-off in activity as well due to gentrification or other growth to a point of insignificance. In July 2016 Seattle police set-up a 10-day sting operation at a massage parlor in the ID which netted about 200 johns. Those arrests pre-dated the records in my file.
But further, since as you mention, the prostitution loitering laws were repealed in 2020, I really focused from 2019 onward. In that time the vast majority of arrests are again along Aurora Ave and again around the Lowe's lot. I do also have a file containing data for King County arrests, but that actually seemed less complete and a cross-examination between the SPD data and King County data led me to believe it wasn't very reliable (SPD arrest records didn't seem to be in the King County file). I do not have the latest SPD files, though, so haven't examined them since. But I think that the major takeaway is that a focus for the city regarding patronizing / purchasing arrests is definitely Aurora Ave. And while I again don't think anyone was ever surprised by that, my goal was to find out where and when along Aurora men were mostly getting busted since that's where most of us in this forum seem to be cruising.
I wonder what percentage of the arrests were sting operations. ? Using such a long time period is a bit misleading. It is important to remember that the city of Seattle did away with the loitering law several years ago. So it would be much to more accurate to show a map or statistics when the law was in effect.
Service has hit an all time low out there, recently. I saw a thin BSW, very light skinned, in the low 90. CBJ was just awful. Another thin light skinned BSW up on 107th same awful technique. Both set timers on their phone. Both also take the seatbelt buckle it and then sit on it. They are both young, like 20. It leads me to think they have the same pimp. Anyway, stay clear and save your money. I do believe all this is a deliberate act to try to do as little as possible. I confronted both on their shitty performance and one said that she agreed to give a BJ, not to do a good job 😳129315;128517;.
Service has hit an all time low out there, recently. I saw a thin BSW, very light skinned, in the low 90. CBJ was just awful. Another thin light skinned BSW up on 107th same awful technique. Both set timers on their phone. Both also take the seatbelt buckle it and then sit on it. They are both young, like 20. It leads me to think they have the same pimp. Anyway, stay clear and save your money. I do believe all this is a deliberate act to try to do as little as possible. I confronted both on their shitty performance and one said that she agreed to give a BJ, not to do a good job 😳129315;128517;.They may be jaded, which means that they've been doing too much of something, particularly social activities, hobbies, or something that was once exciting or enjoyable.
After some smoke and more training from Tyrone on their part, YMMV next time.
I decided to see what was up on AA as I haven't been out there in quite a while. I've been avoiding Aurora even for transiting through to get somewhere with the goal of not going out there again until January. Well I got bored and broke that goal. First impression was that there weren't a lot of girls out there prior to midnight, a handful up north, one or two around 107th and a few south of 105th to 90th. Not much going on. Around midnight more suddenly showed-up. I parked and watched a new crew of four SWs all dressed in stockings, thongs and crazy high-heels assemble at 102nd. One BSW, two WSW and perhaps one larger mixed or Latina SW. They all stood in the middle of the intersection and took group selfies of their asses. Then they split into singles with each girl taking a photo of another girl's backside. One lone guy drove through and came to the stop sign and all four girls flippin' mobbed him. I rolled-down my window to listen, "HEY BABY! BABY! WAIT BABY COME BACK!". I don't think he new quite what to do and it seemed that he wasn't into it. So he drove-off with all four of them at his window, yapping and tapping. He went to the next block and circled down a different block. Meanwhile the girls all assembled back together in the middle of the intersection and out came a bottle of something which they all passed around, each girl taking a nip. They were giggly and loud. Then suddenly the bigger girl in ridiculously large heels lost her balance, took a dive and landed on her back in the middle of the road. She struggled to get up and when she did, she fell onto her back again. At this time an SPD cruiser approached up Aurora and came upon this SW laying in the road, he slowed to a crawl, took a gander out his window and then hit the gas, LOL. Zero concerns at all about a female laying on her back in the road. "Oh, it's just some hooker lying on her back at an intersection on Aurora". I was reminded how drunken SWs are usually bad dates.
Down near the low-90's I came upon a light-skinned BSW dressed all in black, short miniskirt, tall black shiny knee-boots and her hair back with a white bow. I had seen her walking around the various blocks during myy previous passes. She approached while I was stopped and asked if I had $200. I asked what she would do for that amount and she said "I give one hell of a covered blow-job, baby". Merely a blow-job? And covered? For $200? She wouldn't budge on price nor service expansion so I declined. Then the begging started in a nice, sweet tone, "it's been sooo slow, don't you want to help me out, baby?" No I didn't. Not by a long-shot. I couldn't resist, as I never can, and told her that usually when business is slow most businesses will drop their rates or offer an enticing deal but she said "no way, I'm worth every penny, baby, you get what you pay for". "Ah, so for $200 I'm going to get so-so covered service and a timer, right?". She didn't like that and turned away. About a block after that I ran into little spinner Ava, looking good in her little spinner thong. I already know she's a no-go on service and even though she's generally nice while chatting I'm under no illusion that she's probably also all about the timer.
Not long after that I spotted Candace and another female crouched around a small fire they'd made in front of the convenience store. On the next pass through the other female was standing at a different block as I approached the stop sign. She was very worn but familiar, she wanted me to roll-down my window but I merely cracked it. "Hey, it's Jessica", she said. I then realized that she was Jessica Crush from TNA, an SW I'd dated many times over the years but won't go near anymore. She's in serious decline, and out there sitting next to a fire with Candace like that with nowhere to go. I waved her off and hit the gas. Of course not long after that I also ran into Candace and she asked very nicely if I would give her a ride down to near 85th. I don't date Candace anymore but sometimes I do give her a ride. When she got in she smelled like grass, like a field. She had been staying in an apartment nearby but she told me that one morning she got out of bed and found her roommate dead. So, she's back to living outdoors in the winter. And she looks fuckin awful. Later when I'd arrived home I found her crack pipe sitting on the passenger seat. Had I been stopped for a simple traffic stop that would have been an interesting conversation-starter. I admit that I've let things slip these past few years, normally I'd completely inspect the vehicle after dropping-off an SW for this exact reason. Clearly I need to start doing that again. Just a reminder to all, police your vehicles before heading-out, it's interesting the things you'll find.
One attempt, no score, yeah there were others out but after the first try I'd just decided that I didn't want the hustle and any SW who was to my liking was probably an utter waste of money. Hey they did it to themselves with their high-rates, crappy service and attitudes along with a timer. I see lots of guys looking but nobody picking-up so I must not be the only one.
Picked up a chubby ish WSW a couple of weeks ago and cream pied her for around $140. BBBJ and CIP. She told me that she got section 8 a couple of years ago and hadn't been on the track in that time. Told me she really needed some cash. Never saw her before or since. Pussy was loose. Nothing to write home about.
Picked up a Samoan / half Mexican girl and BBBJ CIP for 120 the first time I picked her up. Good looking chic slightly heavy set. Picked her up again from around 107th a couple of nights ago and this time she got me for 160. Told her same as last time? And she said sure but at the ATM she tried to get a little bit more out of me and what the heck it was almost Christmas and the service is pretty good so why not. BBBJ CIP behind the home depot. We went too my two other favorite spots first and there was people at both of them. Always wanted to fuck behind the home depot where the loading area is. Pretty decent lighting back there up near the wall and with all the pallets you can back your car in between them or kind of parallel (depending upon the pallets that day). Nobody goes back there at night. I wouldn't see her again. Service was good but I need variety it's just not exciting smashing the same girl again unless she's super hot and even then for me my max is 2-3 times at the absolute max. If I wanted to smash the same chic over and over again I'd have a GF. One of my favorite sayings is "For every hot girl out there, there is a guy bored of fucking her".
I saw a WSW come out of the motel that was converted into some sort of transitional housing. She was skinny and had part of her hair dyed green. She wasn't dressed like a hooker but I got the vibe she was looking for some money. I made another lap and came back and spotted her near the chicfila. I pulled over on the side road near the chicfila and waited to see if she would come up to my car. She did momentarily later and I could tell she was a user. She had a full set of teeth but could see the signs. I told her I wanted some head and I asked her how much and she said something to the effect of "whatever you have". I reached into my pockets and pulled out 12 bucks LOL. I had two $100 dollar bills in my cargo pants pocket but I wasn't pulling any of those out for her LOL. I was like "this is all I got LOL". To my amazement she said "That's perfect! I was like okay LOL. I asked her if she was going to smell like blues to which she smelled her hoodie and said she didn't know she didn't think so. I knew she smoked blues then so I told her just meet me down the street a little in the parking lot and we can do this outside. I didn't want her to get into my car. I absolutely cannot stand the smell of that shit. It gives me anxiety plus you never know what they might have on them. I have to my amazement only ever found a straw that was used to smoke fetanyl and this morning while cleaning out the back I found what looks like a candy with a smiley face on it that was kind of stuck to the carpet. It looks like a candy, the smiley face is not pressed but raised. So I am not sure what it is. Got rid of it anyways. I digress.
I had her go down to this parking lot just down the street on the left side. I pulled in there and I got out and had her suck me off up against the wall in the corner. There wasn't much sucking because I throat fucked her and came down her throat. She swallowed every last drop she didn't spit it out which also surprised me considering I only paid her 12 bucks LOL. She even wished me a Merry Christmas as she walked away. It was surreal. She was pretty decent looking but pretty skinny. I actually felt bad I only paid her 12 bucks LOL. She was happy with it though LOL. I think she probably just needed some blues and probably was just happy to have some money to get them is my guess.
One of the more surprising things happened to me about a week ago was that I was pulled over by a State Trooper. I had stopped off on the side of the road to talk to a girl and he pulled up behind me and lit me up. He gave me a verbal warning about solicitation of a prostitute and gave me some BS speech about how most of these girls are being sex trafficked and blah blah blah and how I shouldn't pick them up. I didn't give a shit LOL. He looked like the type of guy that beats his wife and he's out here lecturing me on trying to solicit a prostitute. I had never before been pulled over. I have many many times stopped on the side of AA to talk to a girl which is what I have always done. Including right In front of SPD many times and they just go around me or a couple times have got on there air horn thingie. Never had one pull me over though. State Patrol obviously works on a different set of policies. His actual reason for initiating the traffic stop was pretty BS too. He didn't write me a ticket for it because he probably couldn't. If he could have he would no doubt about it.
I think that's all of my pickups in the last week or so. It's hard to remember honestly I don't really keep track these days as picking up SW's is an almost every day thing for me. I am sure I am missing some.
My streak of not being robbed ran out this morning. Last time I had been robbed before this was back this past summer. I rolled up on a BSW near the wall around 4 am. She asked if she could get in and I told her let's talk prices. I told her what I wanted which was some head and she said "how much you trying to spend 40,60,80?" I was like thinking to myself this is a good deal to be had. She was a thiccer BSW but still good looking for sure. I told her "how about 40?" She agreed. We went to the wells fargo just around the corner and I got out 40. She told me immediately when she got in that I had dated her once before. I didn't remember this at all until she started going over the circumstances of it. Told me that I picked her up at the bus stop and I dropped her off at her apartment which was off 143rd after our date. This was 1 to 1 1/2 years ago LOL. I remembered the circumstances but didn't at all remember the service or anything. She said we parked at the LA fitness. I definitely remember dropping a girl off at an apartment complex and picking up a girl at that bus stop but not anything else. I couldn't believe she remembered me LOL. There is another girl out there I did a date with 2 years ago and she still remembers me to this day. I talked to her a couple times in the last month while she was out there. I didn't really recognize her at first and was really shocked that she still remembered me. I know why these girls remember me though I know the haters will start seeing red though If I mention why. Broke asses. Anyways. I took this girl to a spot nearby and on the way there she was like "Oh I don't like this spot" it was kind of off the beaten path. That in hindsight was my first warning about her robbing me.
We got to the spot and we jumped in the back and she asked for the money and I handed it over without confirming the details because it's just 40 bucks and I had seen her once before. She immediately said "what's this" while holding the two 20's and I said 40 bucks. She then tells me I told her "140" I was like no I didn't! Here we go again with this bait and switch. I got her to admit that she agreed to the 40 dollar offer after she slipped up after initially trying to tell me I said 140. She admitted that I told her 40! She then tried to switch it around on me and was like "I thought you would be a gentleman why would you lowball me like that?" I was like. You accepted!! You didn't have too. If you had asked for more I probably would have agreed but you didn't so WTF. I jumped in the front seat after some back and forth arguing that was going nowhere and she was like "oh wow so your getting violent?" I wasn't. But I was thinking this is a setup. I told her to get out a few times before she finally did and on her way out my car she was like "I'm calling the police" and in my head I'm thinking like WTF? What for you idiot. You just robbed me (for 40 bucks LOL) I didn't do nothing to you I didn't even touch you. She was probably just saying that cause she was now getting out of my car and I was pissed off and it was not right off AA and wanted to scare me away.
I need to check up on some things before posting anything about an incident that I saw earlier that morning near the emerald. It was kind of scary. It didn't look good. Not sure yet if what happened I think happened. Going to try and tie down some details first.
I was bored and wanted to figure out how many people have been arrested for pimping in Seattle. I found the King County jail dataset that the county publishes online. The current dataset has all the adult bookings from Dec 1, 2022 to Nov 30,2023. There have been 20 individuals arrested and booked for Promoting Prostitution (pimping) in the county in that time for a total of 47 promoting prostitution charges. Only 3 of those charges were for Promoting Prostitution in the 1st degree which is defined in the Revised Code of Washington as:
(1) A person is guilty of promoting prostitution in the first degree if he or she knowingly advances prostitution:
(a) By compelling a person by threat or force to engage in prostitution or profits from prostitution which results from such threat or force; or.
(b) By compelling a person with a mental incapacity or developmental disability that renders the person incapable of consent to engage in prostitution or profits from prostitution that results from such compulsion.
(2) Promoting prostitution in the first degree is a class B felony.
Which most likely means they were gorilla pimps and probably not the latter which is pimping some retarded girl LOL. All the other Promoting Prostitution charges were Promoting Prostitution in the 2nd degree which is defined in the Revised Code of Washington as:
(1) A person is guilty of promoting prostitution in the second degree if he or she knowingly:
(a) Profits from prostitution; or.
(b) Advances prostitution.
(2) Promoting prostitution in the second degree is a class C felony.
A good amount of them had other charges like communication with a minor for immoral purposes, rape of a child, commercial sex abuse of a minor etc added on to there charges. Two of these arrests were for a massage parlor in Burien. The other's don't appear to be related to massages with happy endings.
Another thing that is noteworthy is that there is not a single booking in the last 12 months for the time period in this dataset for solicitation of prostitution, purchasing prostitution etc or any variation of. What this means is that they aren't booking those arrested at those stings into a King County Jail. Probably just releasing them after processing them at a precinct or something or processing them nearby and releasing them. This dataset covers all adult jails run by King County which would be King County Correctional Facility (KCCF) in Seattle and the Maleng Regional Justice Center (MRJC) in Kent.
My understanding is that when police are doing a larger-scale operation such as a sting they let the local jail know so that the jail staff can prepare for multiple intake bookings. For whatever reason it's apparently typical for the jail to push-back. In that case bookings are conducted at the local precincts instead of the jail. I was told that the precincts are trying to get away from fingerprinting however it still counts as an arrest. Also to add as a point of interest, in Washington State fingerprints are apparently not required for misdemeanors nor gross misdemeanors so the arrests typically don't show-up in the state WSP nor the federal NCIC databases. Consult a lawyer on that to be sure, but that's my understanding.
Another thing that is noteworthy is that there is not a single booking in the last 12 months for the time period in this dataset for solicitation of prostitution, purchasing prostitution etc or any variation of. What this means is that they aren't booking those arrested at those stings into a King County Jail. Probably just releasing them after processing them at a precinct or something or processing them nearby and releasing them. This dataset covers all adult jails run by King County which would be King County Correctional Facility (KCCF) in Seattle and the Maleng Regional Justice Center (MRJC) in Kent.
MongerSeeker
12-28-23, 20:06
It would interesting to see what percentage were guys that were arrested. Especially after the city did away with the loitering law. The police usually arrest guy's that just happen to be driving home and stop for decoy SW. It is fairly easy to spot a sting especially if you stop and observe from a discreet distance. Cops also arrest a lot of girls of course.
My understanding is that when police are doing a larger-scale operation such as a sting they let the local jail know so that the jail staff can prepare for multiple intake bookings. For whatever reason it's apparently typical for the jail to push-back. In that case bookings are conducted at the local precincts instead of the jail. I was told that the precincts are trying to get away from fingerprinting however it still counts as an arrest. Also to add as a point of interest, in Washington State fingerprints are apparently not required for misdemeanors nor gross misdemeanors so the arrests typically don't show-up in the state WSP nor the federal NCIC databases. Consult a lawyer on that to be sure, but that's my understanding.
My understanding is that when police are doing a larger-scale operation such as a sting they let the local jail know so that the jail staff can prepare for multiple intake bookings. For whatever reason it's apparently typical for the jail to push-back. In that case bookings are conducted at the local precincts instead of the jail. I was told that the precincts are trying to get away from fingerprinting however it still counts as an arrest. Also to add as a point of interest, in Washington State fingerprints are apparently not required for misdemeanors nor gross misdemeanors so the arrests typically don't show-up in the state WSP nor the federal NCIC databases. Consult a lawyer on that to be sure, but that's my understanding.The jails don't like to take people for really minor stuff and / or totally non violent / no criminal history people because of overcrowding and booking restrictions. As far as the arrest records go it'll definitely show up in the state databases. Every cop that runs your tag will see that you were arrested for solicitation until it's either expunged or sealed. As far as NCIC goes my understanding is that most misdemeanors don't get put into.
When I did my analysis between 2019-2023 (August / September), I found that the highest number of arrests for purchasing actually occurred in 2019, something like 89 total arrests. Most of those were on Aurora. Interestingly the number of arrests for purchasing actually decreased for 2020,2021 and 2022, something like 25 arrests for each year. That number increased in 2023 and I'm going to assume it's because business owners along Aurora banded together and started meeting with the Captain of the North Precinct. I also know that residents also started to complain to the city. Stings, or at least mass-arrests for purchasing, appear to have stopped after the city issued nuisance orders to the motels and street activity appeared to drop-off a bit. Regarding arrests for SWs (solicitation), the Seattle City Attorney's Office has stated that they won't prosecute sex workers, only alleged johns. SPD generally stopped pursuing SWs as a result. Most of the stings in the last few years have indeed occurred during evening commute time between 5 pm-9 pm during weeknights. Apparently one of the general problems is that since police were standing-by and present in the area and not arresting SWs a lot of newbie johns got popped because they thought the city had somehow decriminalized prostitution since police were not doing anything. This is what an attorney who works a lot of these types of crimes told me. This is an example to always be as knowledgeable and as informed as possible. But, this is how it's been done in Seattle and SPD, the wider aspect of King County is different. I'm aware that there was a sting earlier this year in SeaTac which netted some guys, but i'm not sure if other jurisdictions are pursuing sex workers or not. My assumption is that most of them are not. However, and as always, things can suddenly change at any time.
It would interesting to see what percentage were guys that were arrested. Especially after the city did away with the loitering law. The police usually arrest guy's that just happen to be driving home and stop for decoy SW. It is fairly easy to spot a sting especially if you stop and observe from a discreet distance. Cops also arrest a lot of girls of course.
I picked up a girl around 2 am on one of the blocks from across the Oak Tree Plaza. I saw her standing in the dark off the road a bit so I thought I'd go and take a looksy. She was cute. Short spinner with a tight body. I pulled up and she offered FS for 120. I said is the head without a condom? And she thought about it for a little bit and said yea. She was a little slow getting into my car. I thought it was just because of her heels she may have been wearing (if she was wearing any I don't know). She got in and and she had a really nice tight body, she told me she was 22 and from california. I could immediately smell the alcohol on her. Given her chill laid back demeanor I thought this would be alright cause she seemed pretty chill. I noticed a fairly large bandage on her knee. Given how she walked and the bandage on her knee I assumed she had fallen and just scrapped it. She had large bag with her and was eating a small bag of flamin hot cheetos.
I drove down to the wells fargo to get cash. On the way there was small talk and I noticed she had pretty large fake nails. I recalled an earlier member on here talking about how something to the effect of how large her nails are will determine how good the service or something like that. Something about how the larger the nails the worse it's going to be. More on this later. We get to the atm and I put in my card and I forgot to transfer some money over to checking. I don't normally keep much in checking because of fraud and BS random internet subscriptions I forget to cancel. While I was transferring over to checking I didn't take out my card and after about 30 seconds or so when I was ready to go back to the ATM to punch in how much I wanted again. I heard the atm swallow my card! It ate it. Sigh. There goes my debit card. It was probably only 40 seconds or so it was in there. I couldn't believe it just ate it like that. She had cash app she said so that was good.
Parked at a spot nearby and this is where things started going down hill. Though I suspected they might cause she was fairly intoxicated and our conversations revealed she might be a primadonna / high maintenance.
Got to the spot and I cash app her the money and then say lets move to the backseat. This is where I really realized how fucked up her knee really was. She could barely move. Took her forever and a half to get into the backseat cause she tried to climb over the center console. Finally just told her to use the door and come back in. I hate how girls just climb into the back seat like it's such a big deal to just use the door. Like there is anybody around anyways.
Realizing how badly she could barely move I was already sitting there thinking fuck my life. She took a good 5+ minutes at least to get some of her clothes off and be ready. She had to pull out wipes. Condom. She brought her little bag of flamin hot cheetos with her in the back which I took from her and put down on the console just so I could get her focused cause she was moving like a sloth. She then picked them back up and was like "just be patient". Mind you I had already for 5 minutes she was moving like molasses! She really was a mess. I pulled down my pants and undies and right before it seems like she's ready to suck me off she has to grab a small handful of the flamin hot cheetos. I was just at this point shaking my head even more. Now I had to wait for her to chew and then find her water bottle to swallow it so my dick isn't getting sucked with bits and pieces of flamin hot cheetos!
She finally starts sucking me after an eternity of her trying to get in position cause she can't move her knee. It started out decent ish but quickly realized something was wrong cause my dick started really burning shortly after she started sucking me. I found out later it's cause she scratched the tip of my peepee with her huge ass finger nails. God that sucked. I inspected in the bathroom later when I got home and saw the damage done. It had me worried it was like an STD or something. Always test clean but still I was a bit worried.
The blowjob was average. Because she couldn't really move her knee she got on top of me and rode me and it was just okay. For a CD I really don't do that. Doggy was out of the question though with her inability to move. I finished. Told her that. She's still sitting on top of me. I'm waiting there for her to dismount for what seemed forever. She's a hooker larping as a sloth at this point! She finally dismounts and I clean up with some wipes and I tell her yea just stay back here it'll be easier.
I dropped her off near the KK and good riddance! Honestly. The condition of that girl despite her being cute and having a tight body was just sooooo sooooo not worth it. I was regretting so hard at this point. Her pimp honestly should never let her outside like that it's crazy. They don't care about there girls though despite them gaslighting them by telling them they love them LO. They don't. That's just what they tell these girls who come from completely broken homes with severe daddy issues so they just eat it right up. Girls seek out guys that are like there father (albeit they aren't consciously aware of this) they are most comfortable with what they know. Culturally and environment. In cases where there dad was an alcoholic POS. In my experience that's exactly the type of guy they gravitate towards and the cycle repeats. That's just how it goes.
I still got that mark on the top of my dick (like indent) from where she took some of my skin out it looks like. This happened once previously on a horrible horrible date I did a couple of dates ago that I talked about. That girl also had super long nails. I am checking there hands every time from now on. Never again a girl with long nails.
Saw Bella (Tacoma, Federal Way) out last night. She normally works the internet. Tall, Hair is a funky mix. According to her, the internet is really slow right now.
MongerSeeker
12-31-23, 13:58
My guess is that LE cracked down because the girls were dressing way to scantily doing dumb things like standing in the middle of the street. Chances are a lot of guys were doing foolish things like throwing used condoms in streets. There is no surer way to rile up the locals then leave used condoms in the street. Leaving used condoms is red flag that someone has been there. It is rude and inconsiderate.
When I did my analysis between 2019-2023 (August / September), I found that the highest number of arrests for purchasing actually occurred in 2019, something like 89 total arrests. Most of those were on Aurora. Interestingly the number of arrests for purchasing actually decreased for 2020,2021 and 2022, something like 25 arrests for each year. That number increased in 2023 and I'm going to assume it's because business owners along Aurora banded together and started meeting with the Captain of the North Precinct. I also know that residents also started to complain to the city. Stings, or at least mass-arrests for purchasing, appear to have stopped after the city issued nuisance orders to the motels and street activity appeared to drop-off a bit. Regarding arrests for SWs (solicitation), the Seattle City Attorney's Office has stated that they won't prosecute sex workers, only alleged johns. SPD generally stopped pursuing SWs as a result. Most of the stings in the last few years have indeed occurred during evening commute time between 5 pm-9 pm during weeknights. Apparently one of the general problems is that since police were standing-by and present in the area and not arresting SWs a lot of newbie johns got popped because they thought the city had somehow decriminalized prostitution since police were not doing anything. This is what an attorney who works a lot of these types of crimes told me. This is an example to always be as knowledgeable and as informed as possible. But, this is how it's been done in Seattle and SPD, the wider aspect of King County is different. I'm aware that there was a sting earlier this year in SeaTac which netted some guys, but i'm not sure if other jurisdictions are pursuing sex workers or not. My assumption is that most of them are not. However, and as always, things can suddenly change at any time.
I have continued to look around at the different datasets that the county publishes online. I have analyzed and extracted the arrests for "Purchasing Prostitution" contained within the dataset called "KCSO Offense Reports: 2020 to Present".
I didn't know KCSO was involved in the stings on Aurora. Total arrests for Purchasing Prostitution since 2020 with the support of KCSO? 150.
Since the start of 2023 here are the arrests and there locations at each.
19600 Block International Blvd: 11 arrests.
And 135th St & Aurora Ave and: 9 arrests.
16300 Block International Blvd: 6 arrests.
And 145th St & Aurora Ave and: 2 arrests.
16100 Block International Blvd: 1 arrest.
Since the beginning of this dataset (2020) here are all of the arrests and there locations.
19200 Block Woodinville Snohomish Rd: 23 arrests <- The arrests at this location (Must have been a sting house) happened over a two day period on April 8th & April 9th 2021. Starting in the afternoon and going all day and night with the latest arrest in the day at 12:29 am.
19600 Block International Blvd: 18 arrests.
19500 Block International Blvd: 15 arrests.
And 135th St & Aurora Ave and: 15 arrests.
19500 Block Pacific Hwy S: 13 arrests.
19000 Block 28th Ave S: 13 arrests.
18100 Block International Blvd: 8 arrests.
19000 Block International Blvd: 7 arrests.
And 145th St & Aurora Ave and: 6 arrests.
16300 Block International Blvd: 6 arrests.
14500 Block Aurora Ave and: 5 arrests.
13200 Block Aurora Ave and: 4 arrests.
13500 Block Aurora Ave and: 4 arrests.
14400 Block Aurora Ave and: 1 arrest.
12400 Block Renton Ave S: 1 arrest.
13400 Block Aurora Ave and: 1 arrest.
And 143rd St & Aurora Ave and: 1 arrest.
16100 Block International Blvd: 1 arrest.
And 137th St & Wingard Ct and: 1 arrest.
19100 Block International Blvd: 1 arrest.
And 125th St & Aurora Ave and: 1 arrest.
2200 Block S 142nd St: 1 arrest.
And 85th St & Aurora Ave and: 1 arrest.
And 85th St & Interlake Ave and: 1 arrest.
S 216th St & International Blvd: 1 arrest.
20600 Block Military Rd S: 1 arrest.
The most active time range for arrests in the dataset, considering consecutive hours, is between 1:00 PM and 3:00 PM. During this period, there were a total of 49 arrests, making it the time frame with the highest aggregated number of arrests.
I am continuing to go through all the available datasets online looking for any useful information.
SMediumDick
01-01-24, 14:34
I have continued to look around at the different datasets that the county publishes online. I have analyzed and extracted the arrests for "Purchasing Prostitution" contained within the dataset called "KCSO Offense Reports: 2020 to Present".
I didn't know KCSO was involved in the stings on Aurora. Total arrests for Purchasing Prostitution since 2020 with the support of KCSO? 150.
Since the start of 2023 here are the arrests and there locations at each.
19600 Block International Blvd: 11 arrests.
And 135th St & Aurora Ave and: 9 arrests.
16300 Block International Blvd: 6 arrests.
And 145th St & Aurora Ave and: 2 arrests.
16100 Block International Blvd: 1 arrest.
Since the beginning of this dataset (2020) here are all of the arrests and there locations.
19200 Block Woodinville Snohomish Rd: 23 arrests <- The arrests at this location (Must have been a sting house) happened over a two day period on April 8th & April 9th 2021. Starting in the afternoon and going all day and night with the latest arrest in the day at 12:29 am.
19600 Block International Blvd: 18 arrests.
19500 Block International Blvd: 15 arrests.
And 135th St & Aurora Ave and: 15 arrests.
19500 Block Pacific Hwy S: 13 arrests.
19000 Block 28th Ave S: 13 arrests.
18100 Block International Blvd: 8 arrests.
19000 Block International Blvd: 7 arrests.
And 145th St & Aurora Ave and: 6 arrests.
16300 Block International Blvd: 6 arrests.
14500 Block Aurora Ave and: 5 arrests.
13200 Block Aurora Ave and: 4 arrests.
13500 Block Aurora Ave and: 4 arrests.
14400 Block Aurora Ave and: 1 arrest.
12400 Block Renton Ave S: 1 arrest.
13400 Block Aurora Ave and: 1 arrest.
And 143rd St & Aurora Ave and: 1 arrest.
16100 Block International Blvd: 1 arrest.
And 137th St & Wingard Ct and: 1 arrest.
19100 Block International Blvd: 1 arrest.
And 125th St & Aurora Ave and: 1 arrest.
2200 Block S 142nd St: 1 arrest.
And 85th St & Aurora Ave and: 1 arrest.
And 85th St & Interlake Ave and: 1 arrest.
S 216th St & International Blvd: 1 arrest.
20600 Block Military Rd S: 1 arrest.
The most active time range for arrests in the dataset, considering consecutive hours, is between 1:00 PM and 3:00 PM. During this period, there were a total of 49 arrests, making it the time frame with the highest aggregated number of arrests.
I am continuing to go through all the available datasets online looking for any useful information.Interesting to see the number of arrests near the airport. Are these actual streetwalkers like on Aurora or more of the homeless / junkie variety? Can't say I've seen any obvious SWers there in a long time (2012/14 timeframe) and it was rare even then. But then again, I haven't been down in that area since I've moved to Snohomish County.
Its not worth driving down there is it?
Interesting to see the number of arrests near the airport. Are these actual streetwalkers like on Aurora or more of the homeless / junkie variety? Can't say I've seen any obvious SWers there in a long time (2012/14 timeframe) and it was rare even then. But then again, I haven't been down in that area since I've moved to Snohomish County.
Its not worth driving down there is it?I've got to say no. Pulling over or turning around down there is all but impossible, and the traffic makes it even worse. They've deliberately installed walls, trees and sidewalks along the entire stretch in an effort to curb hookers and the gentlemen that seek their services. From what I've seen, it's working: Very few ladies and nowhere to pick them up. Save your fuel!
Earlier in 2023 there was a sting operation on the street in SeaTac which netted a few guys. Other than that, I'm guessing that a lot of the arrests or stings are going to be hotels and motels in that area as well as massage parlors. While SPD in Seattle aren't really focusing on those venues, other agencies around King County might be.
That being said, arrests in the Seattle data file didn't seem to match-up in the King County data and there was a disclaimer on the file which I downloaded that there might be discrepancies. I focused on Seattle because that's mostly where everyone in this forum cruises. It'll be interesting to see what the rest of the KC data reveals.
Interesting to see the number of arrests near the airport. Are these actual streetwalkers like on Aurora or more of the homeless / junkie variety? Can't say I've seen any obvious SWers there in a long time (2012/14 timeframe) and it was rare even then. But then again, I haven't been down in that area since I've moved to Snohomish County.
Its not worth driving down there is it?
I've got to say no. Pulling over or turning around down there is all but impossible, and the traffic makes it even worse. They've deliberately installed walls, trees and sidewalks along the entire stretch in an effort to curb hookers and the gentlemen that seek their services. From what I've seen, it's working: Very few ladies and nowhere to pick them up. Save your fuel!I agree. These numbers are deceiving, there are no regular strolls in that area anymore. Those numbers, if accurate, more than likely express stings than guys getting caught in their cars. There are a few addresses that are not down south. Any address that refers 99 as anything other than International Blvd, probably not in the South End.
Earlier in 2023 there was a sting operation on the street in SeaTac which netted a few guys. Other than that, I'm guessing that a lot of the arrests or stings are going to be hotels and motels in that area as well as massage parlors. While SPD in Seattle aren't really focusing on those venues, other agencies around King County might be.
That being said, arrests in the Seattle data file didn't seem to match-up in the King County data and there was a disclaimer on the file which I downloaded that there might be discrepancies. I focused on Seattle because that's mostly where everyone in this forum cruises. It'll be interesting to see what the rest of the KC data reveals.International Blvd runs through several cities. Tukwila, SeaTac, Des Moines, Kent, Federal Way are all cities that service the highway. There are no active strolls down here anymore.
Indeed, I can't recall the last time I picked-up and dated down that way, mostly booked with providers in motels / hotels but even that's been a long time. That being said, about six months ago there was a sting operation on International Blvd in SeaTac on the street. Not sure what brought them out or if there was a tiny stroll which was active enough to draw their attention to conduct a sting, but it did happen.
https://komonews.com/news/local/seatac-police-arrest-twelve-men-in-undercover-prostitution-sting-operation-dozen-money-sex-booked-street-crime-trafficking
International Blvd runs through several cities. Tukwila, SeaTac, Des Moines, Kent, Federal Way are all cities that service the highway. There are no active strolls down here anymore.
Indeed, I can't recall the last time I picked-up and dated down that way, mostly booked with providers in motels / hotels but even that's been a long time. That being said, about six months ago there was a sting operation on International Blvd in SeaTac on the street. Not sure what brought them out or if there was a tiny stroll which was active enough to draw their attention to conduct a sting, but it did happen.
https://komonews.com/news/local/seatac-police-arrest-twelve-men-in-undercover-prostitution-sting-operation-dozen-money-sex-booked-street-crime-traffickingThe Sea Tac section of the Highway has a very high number of hotels. I have seen where the police posted up girls working near the hotels and guys staying at the hotel would walk up and solicit the decoy. I have seen that a bunch of times at the Double Tree and Red Roof Inn. There are no strolls, they are just fishing for out of town people who don't know any better.
Earlier in 2023 there was a sting operation on the street in SeaTac which netted a few guys. Other than that, I'm guessing that a lot of the arrests or stings are going to be hotels and motels in that area as well as massage parlors. While SPD in Seattle aren't really focusing on those venues, other agencies around King County might be.
That being said, arrests in the Seattle data file didn't seem to match-up in the King County data and there was a disclaimer on the file which I downloaded that there might be discrepancies. I focused on Seattle because that's mostly where everyone in this forum cruises. It'll be interesting to see what the rest of the KC data reveals.This is a good observation. When I googled the addresses they all come right back to motels. So they are most likely at the motels.
I'm in Florida but I have a trip coming up to Seattle soon, just trying to see if this is legit and what I need to know about it. This guy is driving around neighborhoods filled with girls better looking than our strip clubs, high end escort level. Is this real, don't necessarily need details if you're not trying to give them, as I'm sure I can figure it out, just need to confirm this is actually what's out there.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zUGBREqyTts
DB.
I'm in Florida but I have a trip coming up to Seattle soon, just trying to see if this is legit and what I need to know about it. This guy is driving around neighborhoods filled with girls better looking than our strip clubs, high end escort level. Is this real, don't necessarily need details if you're not trying to give them, as I'm sure I can figure it out, just need to confirm this is actually what's out there.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zUGBREqyTts
DB.Yes. This is not AI LOL. These are the girls out on Aurora Avenue which is the track here in Seattle. A good route for you is 137th St & Aurora Ave down to 90th St and then pull a you-turn and go back up to 137th St. That is one lap. Then rinse and repeat if you want to do more laps to find what you are looking for. South of 90th st you can find some stragglers but they are mostly going to be junkies. The best looking girls are between 90th st and 137th st. These girls are hustlers so make sure you negotiate all terms and double check before handing over any cash!
I'm in Florida but I have a trip coming up to Seattle soon, just trying to see if this is legit and what I need to know about it. This guy is driving around neighborhoods filled with girls better looking than our strip clubs, high end escort level. Is this real, don't necessarily need details if you're not trying to give them, as I'm sure I can figure it out, just need to confirm this is actually what's out there.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zUGBREqyTts
DB.Damn.
If our street talent looks better than the strippers in Florida, that's just one more reason to avoid America's dick.
Also, yeah, it's legitimately what you'll find on Aurora. These days just booking an escort is better and safer. Viva the internet!
I'm in Florida but I have a trip coming up to Seattle soon, just trying to see if this is legit and what I need to know about it. This guy is driving around neighborhoods filled with girls better looking than our strip clubs, high end escort level. Is this real, don't necessarily need details if you're not trying to give them, as I'm sure I can figure it out, just need to confirm this is actually what's out there.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zUGBREqyTts
DB.It was a free for all a while ago, but that street walker that was kidnapped and escaped from that makeshift garage cell brought bad press, increased patrols and the city got two seedy hotels shut down. Combine that with the cold winter weather, there ain't much to see anymore.
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