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Member #3942

09-16-05, 07:31

2209 main st? Its a chiro office all run down. I parked in the back and walked down the hall. Old man sleeping at the desk. I couldnt make enough noise to wake his old as up. I looked around didnt see anything or hear anything. Figured I would leave, so I did. Did I miss something?

17th and Flower. Its 996 I think. Old office buildings made out of dark wood. 2-story. Anyway went up and in. The ad says supermodels. Well I didint hear any supermodel music. I ask for an hour she says 60. I looked around saw no girls jumping. Anyway she says theres no shower and that the girls are very busy to come back in an hour. Well I kinda stank from work and didint really want to come back. Plus no shower so she says they do table wash. Just didnt want to come back in an hour. Too bad the place looks so skanky that if the girls are hot I know its good for some extras. Had to go without seeing any girls. Bummer!!

Well Kelly is right down the street from there at the corner behind burgerking. So I pop in there, cute lil mex girl was there. I still had to have Kelly again. Walk past mex girl and she grabs my ass. Well maybe next time. So Kelly went right to work with her nails and my hand made it into her pants. She was hot and wet. She even kissed my cock so I knew I was doing good. Anyway got her to suck just the tip while I tongued her ass. Tipped her 60 so next time she will maybe get naked if shes in a good mood. I think the mex girl works only 3 days or something. Well more later.

Paulie Walnuts

09-16-05, 12:39

XXX,

There's a Lilly at Ortega Day Spa in Dana Point, not sure if it's the same one, but she fits your description to a T. I've been to her on many occassions in the past for a massage and h/j. Good luck.

PW

I met an older Chinese provider named Lilly in Los Angeles/Culver City on Overland, she has changed locations to Newport Beach, the manager told me. If you know of a Chinese Massage Parlors in Newport Beach please IM/PM me the Address and Number!

LILLY STATS

Name: Lilly
Age: 45+ maybe 50
Breast:36 D's
Ethnicity: Chinese
English: Poor
Personality: Nice to me!

XXX out!

P.S.

I know she may have changed her name but most Chinese providers I know don't!

City Slicker

09-16-05, 13:50

It's not that we dont want to help you fellas out including Vietman, but it's that OC is real dry when it comes to FS. HJ factories are all over the place if you're into that. There are some condo opt but they can easily before in the OCR.

If you want the "sure" thing, the Inland Empire is your best bet. It is a drive to get out there though.

Peace.

Hey-Fellow Chicagoan huh? I read you're having a hard time-PM me if you're still in OC. I was there a few weeks ago and I sent out a plea for help finding FS and I got no answers. No offense everyone in OC. I don't blame you for not helping me since I usually don't post in your area.

Use your "resources" brother. Feel free to PM me if you can't find anything.

Member #3942

09-17-05, 12:41

You know its almost impossible now to find an AMP that does head jobs. You think its cause most of you guys have too much lotion on it from jack'n off so much? Im talking about the readers that dont post anything. I dont mind helping out the next guy, but AMPS are no secret. They are in the paper, sports page, at the market, in throw aways and even big ads on the street. So stop being such little wimps and post up about whatever. Just post whatever, dont have to give away your big secret AMP like we all dont know every single one of them.

Still next to impossible to find head in OC but in San Gabrial its so easy. Think I need a field trip again and oh yeah, Ill post it in greek.

BobEastSide

09-18-05, 18:31

If this place is in the back of a two or three story office building, then I know it well and it has always been good to me. Last time I was there was 6-7 months ago. Every time I have been there I have gotten hs with no trouble, often (maybe usually) with some above the waist touching. Variety of girls, Vietnamese, Chinese, and Mexican. Never a hassle, never long negotiations, always dependable.

Fe Maiden

09-18-05, 18:46

Fe,

Have you been to Lake Forest Body Centre on Muirlands and El Toro Rd? The ladies and services vary widely, but if you know who to ask for you can get what you're looking for. I get hj and/or rimming and/or cbj and/or even bbbj, depending on who I see.

Havin' fun,
S/HWho do you recommend?

Member #3942

09-18-05, 19:10

Body Centre never has anyone that looks all that great. Sure you might be able to get a hj there but so what. The one in san clemente is better since same ol fugly women plus you get a table shower.

So I guess no one has been to the place on main street in santa ana. Plus no one has been to 2296? I think on 17th? The ad says supermodels in the paper. Think one of you guys would report on someplace different.

Been to the place in dana point for 50 special. Next to green lantern. Um same ol thing older with some finish. Dont bother not very exciting.

The ad that says Young And Honey, well my buddy went and did agree that the 2 girls look like barely 18 with a prego mamason. Well he also said that he had a good time playing with the innocent angel that he had. Said she was thin and sweet. He has different tastes then I do so whatever.

Waiting for new reports, I figure some of you guys must be dead or forgot how to type. Yeha hope that makes someone type something.

2209 s. main santa ana. Its a little dive park in the back. 50 for an hour. 4 girls there no shower. Asian and latinas, not bad looking and kinda fun. Anyone else been there? I went yesterday and figure I would try it since I was 2 blocks from there and had an extra hour. Someone else has had to have been there other then me. Need to hear what others have done there. Its such a sleazy place I figure someone knows about it other then me.

Tequila Bob

09-19-05, 12:52

Went to a place on La Habra Blvd. between Harbor and Euclid. The place has been there awhile, but appears have some new talent. A few of the gals from the chiro place on Katella that closed down now work there.

Cindy, Monique, Anna, Sonja, etc. This is hj only.

All great so have fun.

They also have asian chicks there if that is your flavor.

Poker Man

09-21-05, 03:44

I've stopped posting about the AMPs because in OC there's nothing special to write about. Its amazing how many ads are now in the OC newspaper, especially, the sports section. I have been to almost all of them since I like to seek out adventure, but haven't had much luck anywhere. Not sure if its because I look more like a white-collar CIA type as opposed to a dirty monger. So either one of two things are occurring that are keeping all these places in business- either guys are getting "extras" and keeping it secret or there are actually guys who just simply go for the massage (which 9 times out of 10 is lame). I cannot believe for the life of me that it is the latter.

So I'm not sure if one has to go several times to get something extra or not. The few times I get a little extra is usually when I get a Korean girl since I know a few Korean lines and it helps to break the ice. However, I'm typically not the aggressive type, so that could hurt me at times (since they may think I'm LE).

There were several busts recently in the San Diego area and it seems to have affected the girls in OC. On the news in San Diego last month, they showed LE scouring the internet sites looking for illegitimate massage parlors. Interestingly, I was at the massage parlor on Meats avenue a few weeks ago and there was a guy at the door who looked like an off-duty police officer. I didn't think much of it until I left and saw an unmarked Crown Victoria in the parking lot. I guess that explains why the only provider I liked no longer worked there.

PlaneGuy

09-22-05, 22:34

I was in area and decided to drop by vicks accufuck. I been there before, but not recently. I got cute korean girl named Gina.GFE and lots of DATY. Quite a lunch for me, liquid lunch, lol.

Asain uckerI've been to Vick's many times. I was always afraid to post because I worried that LE would find it and shut it down.

Gina is my favorite. Great DATY and about as close to a GFE as you could ever hope for!

PlaneGuy

09-22-05, 22:39

Just got back from Vick Accu. I like this place. Had a nice petite Korean. Good service. No problems getting in, but there was an even different mms today.I've been going to this place for years. In fact, on of the MMS was working when I first started!

I enjoy DATY, because all of the girls there are clean. The attitudes are also great, many just like GFE. The girls never ask me for money, I just tip 1.5x the house rate and it seems to be OK.

I've never left there feeling let down, always felt great after.

PlaneGuy

09-22-05, 22:46

Well I did it! I made it in! It wasn't easy.

Arrived at 1:30 this afternoon. There was a different mms there today. When I walked in she said "you been here before" I said "no" She said "oh, you haven't been here before?" I said " I was here a couple of years ago" She said to come back at 3:00. So I did. At 3:00 She told me to come back in 10 minutes and asked again if I had been there before, which I replied "yes but it has been a couple of years" After ten minutes went by I came back and in I went. I thought I was never gonna get in this place.

I will tell you one thing though. I'm glad I did. This could be my new favorite place. I saw about four different girls there as I was walking down the hall. All were cute. At least 8's.It's absolutely worth getting into. It is my favorite place! Great lookers with great attitudes! No haggling!

PlaneGuy

09-22-05, 22:50

Went to a place that was suggested by another member in Los Alamitos and the mms wouldn't even let me in. Now I was told she was paranoid but this was ridiculous. She said "first time here?" I said no and she said oh sorry no massage. I said " but I've been here before and she said no. Wow! This has never happened to me before.

Next I went to Larson. MMS said nobody was there right now and that I should go to Fullerton.

Well I decided to try a place in Anaheim on Anaheim Blvd. The place is in the ocr and offers free body shampoo. I paid $40 for half hour with a table shower. Not bad. In the room I got a nice light touch massage and on the flip she asked what I wanted as she started to rub my unit. I said everything and she said $160.00 I said wow that's alot. I offered $80.00 and she said she would do a bj for that. So I settled with a hj for $40. Overall not bad. I saw another girl that works there. I would say that they are 7's. They don't wear dresses but it seems like they do everything. I probably won't go back.

After all these experiences I think I will be sticking with COI.The place on Katella is not paranoid, just VERy careful. They have the best service I've ever had in the US!

Widespread

09-23-05, 02:10

Went to the place on Brisotl & 17th by Burger King. Had a hispanic provider named Mary or Maria. She began the light fingernail massage and not too much of anything else. Nice touching the butt. Got me feeling great, but then we negotiated & it was 40 for hj, 100 for bj & she proseeded to tell me that fs was not available because she wouldnt even do it for 1000 & that her vajina is golden. blah blah. anyways i lift with out any extras.

Migrant One

09-23-05, 18:11

Was looking for a straight deep tissue massage since the regular place was closed for a while (any help appreciated). Saw a place on Yorba Linda and Valencia in a little corner office set-up.

Waiting room busy, one guy going in, one coming out and the front had a feel of a straight place, until I saw the massueses.

I had Sharon, but the other looked similar. Vietnamese, thin and enhanced boobage. Both made up in lots of fake eyelashes and colors. I'm lousy with ages, especially with Asian Ladies but I would guess 30's (upper) but in good shape. Sharon said normally 4 girls, but 2 out today.

In the room I gave her 60 for a hour, deep tissue I asked. She gave me back 20 and said half hour. I repeated 1 hour, tried to give her back the 20, she said 1/2 passed the 20 back and gave me a squeeze on the arm. So much for the straight massage I thought.

Little towel on the table so I stripped and half covered myself with a towel. She came in, pulled it off and started a massage. I used to frequent the AMP's a lot and the ones that offered extras varied widely from no real massage attempt to a decent one. This was probably a 7 on a AMP with extras, but a 3-4 for a straight massage. It had some real massage moments, but also some light teasing and fingernails. When face down, no play on the boys but on the flip she asked me if I wanted the towel. No I said so she rubbed around it a few minutes and then motioned do I want a HJ. I don't get too excited over HJ's, but do like BJ's. This wasn't offered she said. I said sure why not and she asked me for a good tip. I said good job, good tip. Well the job was OK, no real fancy stuff and she did pull up her shirt to exp[ose the nice boobs for play, it took a while so I got lots of mileage off the boobs. After the finish she wiped me down with a hot wet towel, did about 7-8 minutes more massage and done.

I gave her 20 then said I appreciated her telling me to go with the half hour (I'm sure the hour would have lasted just as long, with the same results) so I split the 20 with her, so 40 entrance, 30 tip.

I probably won't go back, like I said HJ's are not my thing, but for those in the area it is something.

Fe Maiden

09-24-05, 09:34

I've been to Vick's many times. I was always afraid to post because I worried that LE would find it and shut it down.

Gina is my favorite. Great DATY and about as close to a GFE as you could ever hope for!Where is Vicks located?

ALSMITHONE

09-24-05, 23:16

I see in the OCR that there are 3 AMPS on Skypark Circle. Some posts here and on other boards mention going to the "AMP on Skypark Cirlce" without indicating which one it is?

There is yet a 4th AMP on this street that doesn't advertise, at least not in the OCR or the OCW.

Here are the last 4 digits of the phone #s of these places. Which one(s) are worthwhile and which are not?

0231
3008
0332
7575

I am surprised that there is such a concentration of AMPS in such a small area?

Al

Jeff 71

09-25-05, 10:13

Iron Maiden:

Vick Accu-Med
5450 Katella Ave # 113
Los Alamitos, CA
(562) 598-7636

Info from Yahoo maps, 'cos of course I have never tried out those amazing K-girls myself. :)

(Closed Sundays)

Fe Maiden

09-25-05, 10:59

Anyone ever try either of these places?

In LF off of Aspan-Body Concepts #503

or

In CM-440 Fair Dr.

Any info is well appreciated;)

BigBill

09-25-05, 11:43

Where is Vicks located?

5450 Katella in Los Alamitos.

Member #3942

09-25-05, 16:54

Anyone ever try either of these places?

In LF off of Aspan-Body Concepts #503

or

In CM-440 Fair Dr.

Any info is well appreciated;)

Aspan forget it. Not worth your time unless someone hypnotized one of the girls.

440 fair, dont bother with that either. Better looking girls that do the same thing elsewheres. Try O-spa in dana point or a body center somewhere.

Layin Pipe

09-26-05, 00:25

Was in the mood for a "real" massage so I stopped by East West Spa in Orange. Decided on the 60 minutes for $60.

Went to the room and got undressed and laid on the table. Ten minutes later in walks Jing, a cute Chinese girl. Jing asks if I want light, medium or hard massage. Since I am there for a "real" massage I tell her I want the "hard" and to work out the kinks.

Jing has really strong hands and gives a great massage. While I was lying on my stomach, she made sure to spend lots of time massaging my ass. She also makes sure to brush very close by the boys without actually touching.

On the flip, she gives me a great massage on the chest, stomach & legs. Once again she brushes very close by Pipe and the boys without actually touching. With only about fifteen minutes remaining, I take her hand and relocate it onto the Pipe. With a smile, Jing proceeds to give me a slow and sensual HJ while paying close attention to the boys. After about ten minutes Jing picks up the pace and I can hold out no longer. Without missing a beat, Jing makes sure to milk me for every last drop! I give her technique a solid A+.

After the cleanup with hot towels, Jing helped me get dressed and brought me some water. I gave her a hug and a $20 tip and I was on my way.

FYI, for those of you that like Table Showers, they do provide one free if you ask. Jing's massage was so good I preferred to stick with the massage for the full hour! I will be back!

Black04

09-27-05, 16:25

Finally tried this out...I've seen this on the boards forever. Damn!! Should've gone sooner.

Beautiful Paula...nuff said. I saw at least another one that's 8.5+

Thanks guys.

Black04

PlaneGuy

09-28-05, 00:22

So, who gives the best deep massage out there - one that really gets the kinks out. Extra bonus points if there's a happy ending afterwards.

If you don't want to post out here in public, feel free to PM me.

Thanks in advance,

OC Fun SeekerTry out Angel at Vic Accu Therapy. She is a 10, gives a great massage and definately gives a happy ending!

PlaneGuy

09-28-05, 00:36

OK, after reading the reports about Larson for some time and got very curious, so I went today. MMS convinced me to go for a full hour for $2. Rose, a Korean-Japanese girl, very beautiful with nice size tits, and incredibly large nipples. Had a good 69 session followed by CFS in several positons. After I got off Rose started giving me another massage (I still had 30 minutes left) when MMS came in to send her to another waiting customer. MMS finished the massage.

Overall it was OK, but for my money, it still can not beat Vic's. While Rose was fun, it was not the GFE that I get with Gina at Vic's. And the massage was not nearly as good as some of the girls at Vic's. Also, Vic's MMS, would never cut your session short and take over, although one of my favorite girls at Vic's later became one of the MMS, but that is different!

Green Gopher

09-29-05, 02:58

went to relax at 301 got a good massage but could only do 30min as the place was too busy. too much heat now IMO. got finished but I didn't like being rushed so i'm gonna wait till this place dies down or gets busted whichever comes first before even thinking about returning. standard .4 and .4 for rub n tug.

decided I wasn't fully relaxed so I drove down Euclid a bit at around LaPalma there is another amp. Sounds like Korean but possibly Chinese. I believe the place is named Anne's massage. Its the one right by the bridge w/ a big yellow sign that says Massage in that little complex w/ the Japanese/korean restaurant. Went in and got half hour for .4 massage was decent, hard enough to get all my kinks out. The bad? she covered my whole body w/ a white sheet which I tried removing several times only to be refused. She didn't even let me do the flip when all of a sudden she says times up. The place doesn't look legit so I said I'll pay .2 more for the full hour. She continued on my back and finally on the flip she still kept my sheet on me. Tried to remove and then finally I told her exactly what I want. NO. Tried several times only to be shut down several times. THe more she said no the more I wanted more.

Finally left and left no tip. Girl had short almost boy cut hair but decent face and cute body. Will not try again. 1st time I've been not served in the past year. Almost went the whole year with all good results. Oh well, good runs always end.

stick to 301, J, Fair, LS, 1076, and get up to the Nard for some awesome fuN!

Woohoo59

09-29-05, 06:02

Anyone familiar with Roman Spa or Spa 2000, both on Brookhurst? I saw these two places while in OC yesterday.

There was a bikini bar a few doors over ffrom 2000, and a strip club about a block away. These places any good?

Score those Scooby Snacks!

Vanilla Shake

09-29-05, 10:05

Blubalz

09-29-05, 10:15

Roman Spa or Spa 2000, both on Brookhurst. No action, both been there forever

Member #3942

09-29-05, 23:00

Mrs. Shake leaving this weekend, so have time to venture up to this place. I only have time for one, so if anyone can recommend a particular girl, I would greatly appreciate it. In a perfect world she would be petite with tiny tits and ass, and a natural furry bush, love 69 and rimming. BBBJ for finish.

Thanks!

Damn let me check my menu, well tiny is not easy to find with those talents in OC. Um if its vics then Bebe who isnt tiny but her spanish is great. Or maybe Gina who speaks japanese but shes not tiny either but kinda curvy. Damn shes kinda hot now Im thinking about it. If I knew who that girl youre talking about is I would be there now.

Bob Bitchin

09-30-05, 00:59

[QUOTE=Woohoo59]Anyone familiar with Roman Spa or Spa 2000, both on Brookhurst? I saw these two places while in OC yesterday.

I have been to these many times over the years (well Roman anyway, been once to 2k) Never anything to be had at either one (though I did get asked to marry some Ukranian niece of my provider to get her over here once at Roman ;-)

The provider at 2k was a smokin hot (in a white trash, loose sweat shirt, and tousled blond hair kind of way, not the Playboy bunny kind of way... just like I like em) white chick in jeans who kept well out of reach. It seemed like more should be available, but not for ME. Maybe I'm paranoid.

As a bonus, in the same area, you should avoid a place at Magnolia and Ball. Its been at while since I was there but if they are still there then they still aren't relaxing their patients!! Its in an "L" shaped strip mall, with a night club to the left(?) and a chicken joint on the corner (I think its been a while)

I know shit about the strip club or bikini bar, but if you find out something, let us all know.

Bob Bitchin

09-30-05, 01:18

Mc Hawker

09-30-05, 02:04

The MPs on Brookhurst are strictly ligit. When you see the girls running the Roman Spa, you will thank God for that. They are ugly and mean.

Spa 2000 has a few hot babes but after 3 visits I have not even gotten a girl who will look at the boys while I flip.

Sugars (the bikini bar) is O.K. but usually only one girl working and she is a 7 at best.

Tempted ( the topless bar ) should bee the type of place I like best. It is small, run down and owner operated. It is what strip clubs were before the corporations ruined them by making them "Gentelmen's Clubs." Unfortunately, the owner is a ***** and drives off all the girls. On a good night there is 2 girls tops and on a bad day there is nobody.

The best time on this street by far is the Sherwood. It is almost a hostess bar and has up to 10 girls working on busy nights. I am not sure what is available on the menu if you ask, but it is a good time with some women of questionable virtue.

Anyone familiar with Roman Spa or Spa 2000, both on Brookhurst? I saw these two places while in OC yesterday.

There was a bikini bar a few doors over ffrom 2000, and a strip club about a block away. These places any good?

Score those Scooby Snacks!

Bob Bitchin

09-30-05, 02:10

An updated report on 1076.

Went there about a week ago, and saw ping ping again. Their CC machine is still out so its cash at the door still.

After the shower, I headed back to the room, and while I'm finishing drying off, she comes in and gives me a little hug and asks if I have been there before, I remind her of our last meeting (I guess we all look alike to them too :-) just a few weeks prior and all is happy and sweet - there is definitly a more relaxed and informal / touchy feely air to the session after reminding her.

The massage is quite good again, though I know I can relax about letting her know what I am there. No need to try and break my arm to let her know we are on the same page, I can let her do the face down part of the massage and just enjoy.

On the flip, there is a little negotiation about what I want (not so much negotiation as translation... since I was trying to find out if she had a condom to supply for a little FS - yes I know I should bring one myself, and usually doooo, and I fully intended to, but as I got closer to the address my mind just sort of fogged up and I completely forget to stop and get one!!!) Turns out if I had brought one along, her beautifully petite landing strip of pleasure was ready to dock my Zepplin. Even more surprising is that I could have docked without the requisite latex works for a measly 20 bucks more. That was enough to ensure that I did NOT pursue the glory hole un-adorned!

However with that avenue closed off, and the two of us standing, I motioned her to lay down and I would give her a pearl necklace... and she AGREED!!! I could not believe my eyes as she stretched out on the table in front of me... not only did I walk past the front row seats at her theatre I got right up on stage! But before climbing up on the table I did take time out to smell the flowers. I did not dine on the flowers since it was not near enough to her last shower and I know some of you bastards have been at that already that day ;-) To make a long story shorter, I stroked between her tits for a good while, and almost as if on cue, she tilted her head up to look down the barrel of my cannon just as it broke thru the wall her tits and blasted her right in the nose, across the eye, flipped thru her hair and managed to stretch to the table. The second shot hit the wall, so if you go in the back room and there is a drib of semi-gloss on the back wall, thats me :-)

The only downside to that experience was that she spent so much time cleaning herself up that that was the end of the massage!!!! Good thing she cleaned herself up naked, I had good fun "helping"!

Damn, I better jack-off now or I'll be back there tomorrow at lunch!

Woohoo59

09-30-05, 06:48

Thanks for the response McHawker. I wont need to waste any money at either of those two MP's.

I was a bit confused by your remark at about the Sherwood. Its a good time in what sense? Whats available? What kind of girls? You'll have to forgive my ignorance but I've never been to a hostess bar so I'm completely unfamiliar with the setup. Feel free to respond via PM if you wish. Either way, thanks for the heads up.

The MPs on Brookhurst are strictly ligit. When you see the girls running the Roman Spa, you will thank God for that. They are ugly and mean.

Spa 2000 has a few hot babes but after 3 visits I have not even gotten a girl who will look at the boys while I flip.

Sugars (the bikini bar) is O.K. but usually only one girl working and she is a 7 at best.

Tempted ( the topless bar ) should bee the type of place I like best. It is small, run down and owner operated. It is what strip clubs were before the corporations ruined them by making them "Gentelmen's Clubs." Unfortunately, the owner is a ***** and drives off all the girls. On a good night there is 2 girls tops and on a bad day there is nobody.

The best time on this street by far is the Sherwood. It is almost a hostess bar and has up to 10 girls working on busy nights. I am not sure what is available on the menu if you ask, but it is a good time with some women of questionable virtue.

Rolex333

09-30-05, 12:00

Finally got past the front door at Vic's. The first time I was turned away and told to come back the next day. I was nearly turned away again but pleaded my case and was finally allowed in by MMS. The experience was pleasant (I forgot the therapist's name) despite the fact that she was tentative. $1.00 for fs. I plan on coming back here to check out the reasons why so many rave about it.

Mc Hawker

09-30-05, 13:05

It is not a real hostess bar in that you do not pay a fee and get a girl for a specified time. It is a bar that is WAY overstaffed on waitresses so they have the time to send with the customers. Most will come sit on your lap, let hands roam and make out with you. I have seen girls leave with customers but have not been able to figure that trick out. In addition to the waitresses, it is a generaly god bar with very friendly customers, kinda like CHeers only not so clean.

Now that I think about it there is one better place on Brookhurst for RELAXATION, but that has been covered on other posts.

Thanks for the response McHawker. I wont need to waste any money at either of those two MP's.

I was a bit confused by your remark at about the Sherwood. Its a good time in what sense? Whats available? What kind of girls? You'll have to forgive my ignorance but I've never been to a hostess bar so I'm completely unfamiliar with the setup. Feel free to respond via PM if you wish. Either way, thanks for the heads up.

PlaneGuy

09-30-05, 21:08

PlaneGuy

09-30-05, 21:16

While I'm at it.

I hate to be the exception to the rule, but my experience at Vic was less than stellar.

My provider's name was Ociana or some crap like that, and while she had a smokin body, one cheek was less than a handfull - and the cheeks didn't meet in the middle if she was at all bent over if ya know what I mean - she was VERY money centric. Not only that but she was VERY quick into the flip. There was maybe 5 min. spent on rubbing my back - as soon as my hand when up her theigh we were into the flip.

As far as the money goes, she negotiated up front (a sure turn off,) and was also quite expensive, she wanted 60 for a HJ, 100 or so for a BJ and I don't even know what FS would have been.

I told her all I had was 50, which was true, and it was on. Usually I like a little playin around when the flip has come so quickly, but she was all buisiness as quick as she could. Now maybe I have gotten used to the relaxed feel of a 1hr session and the pace of a 1/2 seems rushed, but I was out the door 15min after I finished the shower! She was right to have negotiated the money up front, I tend to subtract for being shorted on the massage!

With all the positive comments posted I may try the place again, just insist on a different provider. That coupled with the fact that I can now tell MMS that yes I have been there before I might not get their cop screener!I only had ONE girl at Vic ask for money after I gave her at tip... Even then, there was NO negotiation before the act. I've been going to Vic for almost 11 years and never had a girl talk money up front. In fact, other than the previously mentioned incident, NONE of the girls I had ever counted, or even looked at the tip before they put it away.

Try Gina or Angel. If you want a nice massage first, ask for Angel. If you want a great GFE, ask for Gina. Both are cute, sweet and great. Angel will give you a GFE, but Gina just gets more into it (probably more than any professional).

You may want to tell MMS if you weren't happy. I don't think mgt wants the girls talking price. They've got a good thing going and they want to keep it!

PlaneGuy

09-30-05, 21:27

Mc Hawker

10-01-05, 15:59

South Brookhurst. about the 400 or 500 block. A couple of doors over from Massage 2000

Where is Sherwood in Anahiem?

Member #3942

10-01-05, 21:07

South Brookhurst. about the 400 or 500 block. A couple of doors over from Massage 2000

So are they white or asian or what in there? Its just a bar with company? SOunds like its worth a visit if its any fun at all.

Was in SD today and went to some place near downtown. Cant remember crap since I was toasted. I do remember the girl was young and gave a good massage. Has some extras but nothing like south of there.

Mc Hawker

10-01-05, 23:59

It is owned by a viet woman but the staff is mixed asian and white. The girls range from shkankie to kinda hot. My favorite is a blond girl named Angela. She is about 40 but has the body of a 20 y.o. Very small waist, nice but and a firm set of D-cups. I have gotten more milage from the asians, but that may be because the white chicks who cross the line are not the ones I find attractive.

I found this place when I stoped at Tempted and asked if Candy was working. Baby Love (a BBW dancer) said, "she went to work for the Sherwoon, the hooker bar." So I was at the sherwood about five minutes later.

Like I said earlier, I have not gotten the FS I look for, but I think others have. I may just need to grow some balls and ask.

So are they white or asian or what in there? Its just a bar with company? SOunds like its worth a visit if its any fun at all.

Was in SD today and went to some place near downtown. Cant remember crap since I was toasted. I do remember the girl was young and gave a good massage. Has some extras but nothing like south of there.

Marvelous88

10-02-05, 12:37

Saw the ad in OCR for "Amazing Oriental Massage" and TOFTT on Friday evening. It is more of Chinese medicine office and it does not advertise massage in the window. The place is new and clean but without showers.

The small rooms have the walls that don't go all the way up - I know we're at bad sign number three at this point - but I kept on.

The first "attendant" was young, wore glasses and seemed a little nervous. Hands a bit cold and too much oil. After about five minutes I said you haven't been doing this very long have you? To which she says "no not really, but how do you know?" Oh brother. She was voted off the island and another girl sent in with jeans and a halter top. I never got her name but thought things were looking up.

She gave a much better massage but that's all she was giving this day; despite my best persuasions. I was okay with that, not that I would have turned down extras, but I really needed a massage.

Fifty for an hour of good massage, if that's what you need, an ten for tip.

If anyone has a different experience there I would like to hear.

M

City Slicker

10-04-05, 19:15

I was in the area so I stopped by after reading all of the good posts from fellow mongers. Asked for Angel since I have heard some good reviews. She didnt work today (not sure of her schedule) but Mamasan recommended Mimi. She is a petite little thing with nice knockers (good size for her body).

Started off with a lame massage of course which lead me to believe this is a full service place. She got undress w/o even asking after a few minutes and started rubbing her tits up and down my crack. Pretty good.

Got some rimming but covered with condom on her tongue (didnt like that too much). Her BJ technique wasnt too bad but after a few minutes of it, I pushed her head down for somemore rimming w/o cover. She hestiated a bit but went to it like a pro and even asked me to get on all four so she can go deeper. What a gem!

She got on for cowgirl and I finished her off missionary. This place is pretty clean with showers for those interested. It is a bit of drive for me so enjoy.

City Slicker

Member #3942

10-04-05, 19:49

Place is upstairs in the back in the brown building #G. No shower, kinda dumpy but was a nice surprise with the good looking 20-something girl I got. Massage was average. Flip, I had to take her hand and lie to her about how good it was and she really needed to help me. I almost choked from holding back my laughing. She ended up doing a pretty good job and got my hand down her pants. Sheesh she had a hot little body. Freaking ass was tight and she was really cute. I wouldnt go there if I was you unless you want a change and something new. Its a place where you can have some fun trying to get extras.

PlaneGuy

10-04-05, 21:47

I know I usually see Angel on Thursday afternoons./evenings.

I was in the area so I stopped by after reading all of the good posts from fellow mongers. Asked for Angel since I have heard some good reviews. She didnt work today (not sure of her schedule) but Mamasan recommended Mimi. She is a petite little thing with nice knockers (good size for her body).

Started off with a lame massage of course which lead me to believe this is a full service place. She got undress w/o even asking after a few minutes and started rubbing her tits up and down my crack. Pretty good.

Got some rimming but covered with condom on her tongue (didnt like that too much). Her BJ technique wasnt too bad but after a few minutes of it, I pushed her head down for somemore rimming w/o cover. She hestiated a bit but went to it like a pro and even asked me to get on all four so she can go deeper. What a gem!

She got on for cowgirl and I finished her off missionary. This place is pretty clean with showers for those interested. It is a bit of drive for me so enjoy.

City Slicker

Green Gopher

10-05-05, 04:15

To follow up on LayinPipes post,

I tried this place out. very good massage but used a bit too much oil. Friendly and good technique. Really does massage your inner thighs and teases you gently. I tried removing the towel but she would not let up. She then asked me for a table shower to which I told her to finish me off first and then we'll hop in the shower. She refused and looked as if she got mad. Table shower was good but she ended up wrapping my unit in a towel. I was very dissapointed in this. Cleaned me up real good and back to the room I tipped a .10 because the massage was justified. She asked for more and gave me this sob story but I basically told her I can just take the tip back and I only tip because of the table shower.

Her name is Jessica, older chinese lady. maybe 35 yo. Nice body (8), a 6 in the face only because she does look a tad older. For a massage only I recommend. Otherthen that dont' even try it. This is the 2nd time recently I've gotten rejected! must be my bad year.

Member #3942

10-05-05, 07:26

Been there before too. Sure I had the same lady. She looks pretty good with a nice ass. She did the same, towel in the shower and pretty good massage in the room with no extras. Weird how you can feel them up and down and then they wont touch you. Well it was a good massage but I can get a good one at Ospa.

Layin Pipe

10-05-05, 14:40

For a massage only I recommend. Otherthen that dont' even try it. This is the 2nd time recently I've gotten rejected! must be my bad year.Green Gopher,

Sorry to hear you didn't find what you were seeking. I have been to East West twice and both times received a HJ finish. Click here and here for the reports. Both times, I had to relocate their hands to the Pipe. I may have to try it a third time and opt for the table shower as well.

I do agree, they give a GREAT massage. Better luck next time and don't forget YMMV!

Layin Pipe

Green Gopher

10-06-05, 03:04

Green Gopher,

Sorry to hear you didn't find what you were seeking. I have been to East West twice and both times received a HJ finish. Click here and here for the reports. Both times, I had to relocate their hands to the Pipe. I may have to try it a third time and opt for the table shower as well.

I do agree, they give a GREAT massage. Better luck next time and don't forget YMMV!

Layin Pipe I don't know why Layin Pipe is not a sr member already. I've read your posts for a very long time and can personally attest to being authentic and true. Good member and I vouche! now in regards to East West, dont get me wrong. I am very forward but this Jessica character is definitely not a giver.

Part of the conversation we had was that I had a friend who gets serviced here so why doesn't she cut the chase and just do it already. Besides I've been feeling your ass the whole time anyways. She seems to get annoyed and says "who is yo friend?" "you bring him here, let me see who" "who is girl giving massage?" etc. obviously I did not cater to her inquiries but just so our members know, stay away from Jessica. She's worked there for a while from my understanding, maybe overly cautious? I've never been harrassed about being LE as if you saw me you'd understand. I will however try again sometime just to see how good this technique really is. I have my favorite already but I like to compare and shop.

Triverbum

10-06-05, 11:23

I don't know why Layin Pipe is not a sr member already. I've read your posts for a very long time and can personally attest to being authentic and true. Good member and I vouche! now in regards to East West, dont get me wrong. I am very forward but this Jessica character is definitely not a giver.

Part of the conversation we had was that I had a friend who gets serviced here so why doesn't she cut the chase and just do it already. Besides I've been feeling your ass the whole time anyways. She seems to get annoyed and says "who is yo friend?" "you bring him here, let me see who" "who is girl giving massage?" etc. obviously I did not cater to her inquiries but just so our members know, stay away from Jessica. She's worked there for a while from my understanding, maybe overly cautious? I've never been harrassed about being LE as if you saw me you'd understand. I will however try again sometime just to see how good this technique really is. I have my favorite already but I like to compare and shop.

I second Green Gophers motion on Layin Pipe.I to have used is intell to score quality action and he is always acurate on his assesments.He should be a senior member.Jackson you should raise the Pipe.IMHO

Triverbum

Black04

10-06-05, 11:51

HolmesJr

10-06-05, 15:47

Tried Gina and the reports are true, very good, the MMS wouldn't let me in at first ahahahaha. "We don't do massage here" she says, I said "this is my 3rd time here", and started throwing names and all was good.

Then Gina proceeds to interrogate me LOL, never negotiated, very sweet girl, she even cuddles at the end :)

Black04I was there last Wednesday. There were two guys trying to get in and the mms wouldn't let them in. She asked me who I knew and I threw out a couple of names and she let me right in. I do like this place a lot. I haven't had Gina yet but I plan to.

Rolex333

10-06-05, 18:57

Tried Gina today, also, and she's definitely a GFE. Unlike Black, there was some negotiation and she hit me up for $1.50. Enthusiastic and sweet. Made the premium tip go down a little better.

Electrons 54

10-07-05, 15:32

Tried Gina today, also, and she's definitely a GFE. Unlike Black, there was some negotiation and she hit me up for $1.50. Enthusiastic and sweet. Made the premium tip go down a little better.

I also visited, but she tried to hit me up for $. You serious she tried to hit you up for $.50? or you including the entry fee? Nice looking and the service was above average but if it's going to cost $$, no thanks.

The girl i had didn't negotiate until the end and wanted more money than I had laid out. I told her it was the only money I had with me, she wasn't too happy and didn't even offer the bottled water that she had in her hand, for me. I said, sorry but that's what I gave the last time, and the other girl didn't say a word about it.

Rolex333

10-08-05, 11:27

I also visited, but she tried to hit me up for $. You serious she tried to hit you up for $.50? or you including the entry fee? Nice looking and the service was above average but if it's going to cost $$, no thanks.

The girl i had didn't negotiate until the end and wanted more money than I had laid out. I told her it was the only money I had with me, she wasn't too happy and didn't even offer the bottled water that she had in her hand, for me. I said, sorry but that's what I gave the last time, and the other girl didn't say a word about it.It was over and above the entry fee. Normally I wouldn't have gone for it but I've been really curious to see what the fuss was about with Gina. It wasn't hard bargaining though (pardon the pun). Who did you get that asked for more afterward?

Member #3942

10-08-05, 13:39

JS Fanatic

10-08-05, 14:03

Count me as one of the unlucky ones who got nothing at East-West. A few days back I had a massage with Sophia. She's about mid-20s, not bad looking. She let me touch her all over the place. But when I flipped over, I tried to lead her hand over to give me a HJ finish, but she kept saying that it was illegal, and that she'd fired, blah, blah, blah. She offered some oil so that I could finish myself off, but I declined. On the bright side, the free table shower was nice, but that won't be enough to bring me back.

Rolex333

10-08-05, 15:10

Huh? Tip is usally 80 there unless you do less then its 60. I just dontunderstand your post since it sounds like you thought you only had to pay 50 to get in. Or it sounds like you were paying another 50 for FS which is damn low. Maybe your next post everyone will understand. Unless I am just spacing.I paid a $.50 entry fee and Gina wanted $1.50 for FS. I ended up giving her $1.20. Sounds like I went $.40 over the going tip rate.

Black04

10-09-05, 03:53

I paid a $.50 entry fee and Gina wanted $1.50 for FS. I ended up giving her $1.20. Sounds like I went $.40 over the going tip rate.

Never give in to more than .8, both times I was there Paula and Gina wanted .2 more than what I had but I said no. Gina never negotiated.

Electrons 54

10-09-05, 23:51

Tomb, I coudn't remember her name, but i think it started with H. Definitely k girl nice face, body both 8, and did just anything and didn't stop me from doing anything, but she could have talked a little more.

I think if you pay the .50 entry and give either .70 or .80, besides being the going rate, they shouldn't be asking for more.

Asain_Ucker

10-10-05, 00:19

hanna was her name, i've banged her myself recently.

Tomb, I coudn't remember her name, but i think it started with H. Definitely k girl nice face, body both 8, and did just anything and didn't stop me from doing anything, but she could have talked a little more.

I think if you pay the .50 entry and give either .70 or .80, besides being the going rate, they shouldn't be asking for more.

Donabcdzzz

10-10-05, 10:07

Help me out guys. I am looking for a place to get legit massage from attractive young lady. HJ or more would definitely be a plus but not mandatory.

Jon Jones

10-10-05, 12:54

Help me out guys. I am looking for a place to get legit massage from attractive young lady. HJ or more would definitely be a plus but not mandatory.

There must be a hundred posts this year alone that would give you the information you need. Do some reading.

HolmesJr

10-10-05, 13:11

I took a trip to Lambert Accu (OCR) yesterday afternoon. Had a nice massage with girl walking on my back. Everything is on the menu. Some older ladies and I saw 2 cute younger ones. Unfortunately I didn't get the younger ones. Mine was like a 30 something Korean lady-About a 6. Excellent service though. I would like to try one of the younger ones. Maybe I will go back. This place has been hit and miss.

Triverbum

10-10-05, 13:18

hanna was her name, i've banged her myself recently.

A-ucker ,
Is this the same Hanna that worked at 103? Really nice spinner hard body with nice enhanced rack and good skills.

Triverbum

Tequila Bob

10-10-05, 14:22

Went to the mp on Bristol behind BK and had Kelly for 1/2.

Entry was .4 . Kelly is a pretty asian with a nice rack. She gave a massage which made me think she was definely going to finish me, but no. I have read others got a finish from her but not me today. Oh well.

I would definetly like to do her. No finish, no tip.

Electrons 54

10-10-05, 14:36

Hanna, yes she could have been a little more talkative but i guess i'm not there for the conversation. :) You serious tho tits were man made? they looked and felt pretty good. I'd also agree, she's got a spinner body, nice skin, long black hair.

Member #3942

10-10-05, 20:06

Hmmm any ideas on where to go for a good kinky massage? You know where the girl is just really good with her hands and teases alot reaching grabbing you know what Im talking about.

Think I saw another new place in the paper today. Maybe Ill try it. Depends on where I am.

Was going to try east west in orange but I dont know what they wear and if they are worth a try. You know how I like them wearing sweats or shorts or skirts. Can we just boycott anyplace wearing jeans?

I was at lake forest the other day again. Tina is cute. She wont touch anything ever. But its a good massage (yawn) and her ass is great. Love them asian women with a nice big ass.

Latin & Asian Staff. 828 N. Bristol St. #106 huh? I thought they were gone? Ad in another paper.

Euclid in GG (Angie) has anyone the 411 on this place of this girl? thanks.

Roc27

10-11-05, 20:20

I finally made it to Vicks Accu. This was my first time there and had no problem getting in. The key is to to ask if certain people are working that day. This way they think you have been there before. I paid The .5 entry fee and was led to the room. In walks the lady about mid 30's, but I never did get her her name. There was a light massage with a little rimming involveed. On the the flip she was already naked and started sucking my balls and licking my shaft. then on with the cover for some cbj folled by her on top, miss, and a little doggy. Paid her .8 tip and was on my way.

PlaneGuy

10-11-05, 21:26

I paid a $.50 entry fee and Gina wanted $1.50 for FS. I ended up giving her $1.20. Sounds like I went $.40 over the going tip rate.I usually give $1.20 tip if I get ONE HOUR ($.8 entry fee)... I give $.8 for a half hour.

Tequila Bob

10-12-05, 19:55

Had to try Vicks.

Was like the mp's 10-20 years ago. No hassles.

Went in and smiled at mamasan, she let me in no problem. Paid her .5 then had a shower. For new visitor the shower is toward the front on the left as you walk toward the front.

I got Penny. Nice girl. Good massage. Little ball play while on my stomach.

Flipped and she gave a nice cbj then undressed and we tried a few positions.

I gave her .8 tip and she seemed glad to get it.

Roman

10-12-05, 23:25

I usually give $1.20 tip if I get ONE HOUR ($.8 entry fee)... I give $.8 for a half hour.

Seems like too much.

Suggest a big tip to simply be equivalent to the door fee. Anything
less, performance-wise, gets less.

Some girls will protest -- just drop the ones who do unless they really
appeal to you.

ROMAN

P.S. I'm a multi-millionaire AMPer and could afford to tip like you,
but there's only so much the act is worth...

Black04

10-13-05, 01:47

Seems like too much.

Suggest a big tip to simply be equivalent to the door fee. Anything
less, performance-wise, gets less.

Some girls will protest -- just drop the ones who do unless they really
appeal to you.

ROMAN

P.S. I'm a multi-millionaire AMPer and could afford to tip like you,
but there's only so much the act is worth...

Multi Millionaire damn...I need to hang out with you. j/k

Member #3942

10-13-05, 07:20

Went to a place on Euclid in G.G. They advertise in the OC Reg and ad says table shower too. Well its 50 for an hour and 10 more if you want a table shower. The girls there are kinda older. They do look ok but are not what I really want. I had a nice thin one with long hair. She was good but like I said older then what I want.

Triverbum

10-13-05, 11:38

Seems like too much.

Suggest a big tip to simply be equivalent to the door fee. Anything
less, performance-wise, gets less.

Some girls will protest -- just drop the ones who do unless they really
appeal to you.

ROMAN

P.S. I'm a multi-millionaire AMPer and could afford to tip like you,
but there's only so much the act is worth...

I have been in this game a long time and I am not one to advicate overtipping but I don't see to many providers going for f/s for $50.00.Maybe I am wrong but I think 80 is acceptable for f/s.IMHOP

Trivrerbum

Roman

10-14-05, 10:33

I have been in this game a long time and I am not one to advicate overtipping but I don't see to many providers going for f/s for $50.00.Maybe I am wrong but I think 80 is acceptable for f/s.IMHOP

Trivrerbum

Triver, What I am saying is this: let's say the amper goes to the door
and is told $80 for 60 minutes. He antes up the 4 Jackson's and gets
in. Then he meets "Tina", a god-damned beautiful 10 who knocks his
socks off including everything he wants. The center of the tip is
$80, above for good performance, below for less.

That's all.

ROMAN

Triverbum

10-14-05, 12:57

Triver, What I am saying is this: let's say the amper goes to the door
and is told $80 for 60 minutes. He antes up the 4 Jackson's and gets
in. Then he meets "Tina", a god-damned beautiful 10 who knocks his
socks off including everything he wants. The center of the tip is
$80, above for good performance, below for less.

That's all.

ROMAN

I got what your meaning was but I was basing on 1/2 hr door fee of $50.

Triverbum

HolmesJr

10-15-05, 16:39

Had a visit in Fullerton today. First time for me there. $40 at the door and .8 for fs. Had a 30 something K lady. She initially asked for $160, and I said that was too much. She agreed on .8. She was pretty much a dead fish. I doubt I will go back. It might be a decent place for a hj.

Holmes.

Roman

10-15-05, 19:24

I got what your meaning was but I was basing on 1/2 hr door fee of $50.

Triverbum

Ah - okay. Sorry Triver.

ROMAN

HolmesJr

10-19-05, 16:38

Ok guys, I got a number from CL for gentle asian massage or something like that. Their telephone # is on the Pic. It's 399-xxxx. They are located in Fullerton in a house on a main street. It's actually a very good location. .5 at the door and 1. for fs. I took a shower and was helped by a hot K chic that I had. She had some nice bolt ons and a nice ass. She had a bikini top on. I would say she was volumptous for a k girl.

When I told her I wanted everything she said how much? and I said 1. and she said "more" I said that was all I had, so she said ok and got to work. I liked her a lot. Nice body. I wonder how long this place will last.

PM me for special tips.

Tequila Bob

10-19-05, 17:23

Went to Vicks today and got Gina.

She asked if I had been there before, whick I had so I said yes. If I hadn't I probably still would have said yes.

She laid down right away and spooned into me with me in back.

I was give free range to the goodies. She even DFKed. I usually don't like to DFK with a MP gal, but I was cought up in the moment.

She seemed in no hurry to get things going so I got up and feed her the sausage orally while she laid on her back. And she still managed to get the cover on. Wow, good girl.

Had her lick the twins and then spooned again and made her do all the work. Then CG and mish to the finish. She then wanted to spoon more so I, being the good guy I am, obliged.

I finally had to tell her I had to get going. I was wondering if she thought I had an hour rather than a half hour. Who knows.

Took a shower, then she buttoned my shirt, dried my feet and put on my socks and shoes.

Shit I was so impressed I gave her $. Sorry guys I know I should have tiped .8, but she did good and didn't negotiate up front.

Member #3942

10-21-05, 07:22

Nice skirt on Evon at lake forest body center.

Nobody talking about anything young and sweet. Well well well, guess youre all afraid that James D is going to score on them. That made me laugh.

James D 2004

10-21-05, 13:59

That adds to Speck's (my spokesman) list of why not telling anybody anything.

I got in Vick's once, a year or two ago, with my magic pass I posted recently. I think the girl's name is Gina. Face OK, doesn't turn heads, but after 5 min she became very nice looking. Milky white K girl. She isn't teenage thin but she is fully grown slim. So I'll put her age at 25, could be younger but cannot be a lot older. Nice body, not at all fat so she looks tall and leggy, about 5'6. Medium length skirt that's sexy but can go to office in that.

I didn't remember what her routine was, but I think she wasn't doing much, but allowing me to roam freely and adapt to my needs. Now I remember that I was spooning her while playing with her legs. She's so smart and eager to please. She kicked her one milky white leg straight up into the air while I carried on spooning her.

After she dressed me back up, I handed her $80 with my wallet ready and watched her response. She took over the wallet and took 20 more from it. As Speck says, who cares! (But I said so earlier than that.) She's worth it, that's only the going rate. They don't want a lot more but they want you to come often. She then held her last finger up and asked me to shake my last finger with her. That's a promise to come back.

Obviously most will come back for her (She's A1, SU, King's material but not the top ones), but she saw the hesitation on my face. That's why she did that. Obviously she would do more to please me next time. She just asked me one more chance and she would capture me forever. I usually am a bit easy going on complete strangers. I would definitely have gone back if that place was a little closer. If you manage to get there you could just as well drive all the way to LA. So many MP's at the time, so little time.

After that, I took a rest at the parking lot smoking a cigarette, watching the traffic went by. It was a weekend and all the offices in the plaza were closed. Then a patrol car parked next to me and asked me questions. It was a nervous time for the MP, or anybody else. They posted a piece of paper on every room saying what they do is some 'deep xxx' therapy and nothing else. That xxx is a totally bogus word that I couldn't remember. And the MP was the only one opened in the very back of the plaza. I told them I visited friends and got a bit lost so I took a rest. They asked where my friend was. If they asked for address then I had to come clean. But they let me off, explaining that it's rare for someone to do what I did. I could be the driver keeping watch while the others rob one of the closed offices.

davek

10-21-05, 17:28

Cash value, what is the deal with that place. I've been thinking of trying it but hate to go to places that end up just getting me a stright massage without even a HJ and I go home and do it myself. Is that place any good, are some of the girls okay. Is it an asian place only or are there Latinos and whites.
thanks

Member #3942

10-22-05, 12:57

Lake Forest body center, simple terms. Alice wears a skirt. Evvon wears a skirt. Need I say more? Theres no full service ever. But its nice they wear skirts. Nothing young there. But its a good massage place. Alice is white and I have seen another white lady there thats not as good. The rest are chinese and viet.

Just A Looking

10-22-05, 22:25

LF BC is mostly a HJ place. Some give great massages some don't. Candy is pretty good on both. I have never gotten more. There is a Hispanic girl there, she does not provide extras. Stick to the Asians. Most are Chinese or Viet. Make an appointment and ask for Candy. Tell her Frankee recomeded her. You might get lucky.

PlaneGuy

10-22-05, 23:15

Vick's Accu offers "Q-Therapy". I for one find their Q-Therapy to be quite enjoyable!Actually it is called Qi Therapy. and prounounced Chi (CHEE) Thearapy, which IS legitimate Chinese Medicine. Semantcs aside, I still love the therapy at the place!

PlaneGuy

10-22-05, 23:24

Arandy

10-23-05, 23:27

Now you see why I like her so much. I usually go for an hour when she is there, and tip her $1.2, because she uses up every minute of the hour and really makes me feel great.

I wonder if this is the same Gina that used to work at SU Accufuck in Westminster?

Member #3942

10-24-05, 19:29

New ad in paper, brookhurst 21551 and atlantic? Doesnt answer the phone I think its a bad adress cause Im pretty sure thats an apartment building. Said table shower too.

Another new one in paper says its at muirlands and oso parkway behind the original pancake house upstairs. Body center with some guy, chinese, answering the phone.

Still looking for some cute, young one to give me a massage.

Sexy Head

10-24-05, 19:43

Another new one in paper says its at muirlands and oso parkway behind the original pancake house

Hey Cash,
There is no such intersection . . . it's Moulton and Oso. That's all I know about it, but might give it a shot and report back.

Havin' fun,
S/H

Member #3942

10-25-05, 07:17

Yeah moulton and oso but I dont know about any girls working there.

I am a massage therapist in costa Mesa. I do deep tissue and light touch as well as full body and hot oil. I have been working in this feild for five years. I am 23yr. mixed, black and white carribean female. I am fun loving and like my job a lot. Give me a call for a one hour session for 60$or 40$ half hour. Incall only.

Call Ana

Seen that on craig list.

DiegoHills858

10-25-05, 18:15

Tried an ad for massage by an Asian woman on Craigslist under the Therapeutic services. Made an incall appointment and met a mid thirties chinese woman in newport beach. face-4, body-7, personality-7, massage-6. Ended with a hj but she said more services were available if i came again.

Greenlee

10-25-05, 22:09

Went to Vic's yesterdat 10/24/05 and was turned away. She told me "one hour wait", but I think my new haircut made her think I was LE.

PlaneGuy

10-25-05, 23:56

Went to Vick's today, looking for Gina or Angel. They were not there. MMS recommended Sami. I'm glad I gave her a try.

First of all, let's talk about looks: 10++! Best that I've seen yet at Vicks. And they have some nice ones. This girl is HOT, short, and a perfect body (although she has been "augmented"). This girl defines hardbody, although she looks very petite, she is hard as a rock! She also has a beautiful full body tan.

Personality was also 10++, sweet and wild. She was also the wildest sex machine I've seen in the US!

The session started out with a good back and neck massage, then some fondling. Sami undressed and continued the massage, and proceeded wth some AR. And a FUTB (not too sure about that).

Soon she had me roll over on my back and started a heavy BJ with more FOTB. I asked if she liked to 69 she said she loved it and got into position. During the 69 she asked me for FOTB (she seemed to have a butt fetish).

She started going cowgirl. While sucking my toes. She asked me to give her more FOTB, and really started bucking and moaning as my finger went in. From there we must have tried 6 or 7 positions, with her going like the energizer bunny! We finished in Missionary with some LFK.

After wiping me down Samy told me to lie on my back. She proceed with a very good face and neck massage. After this she massaged and stretched my legs (while taking time to play with some other parts.) She definately made sure I got my full half hour (had I known how good it would be, I would have gotten an hour! ). By the way, my half hour did NOT include the time in the shower.

When she finished the massage, she went out to get some water for me, whiel I got dressed. When she came back, I gave her a tip. She never counted, or even looked at the money. She just said thanks and gave me a kiss.

Overall one wild and fun experience. And one incredibly hot girl. I have to add Sami to my list of favorites.

BillLibsey

10-27-05, 05:56

Check 9210 Katella. Next to a weird place with creepy guys hanging around. But harmless.

Fairview and Warner (2800 West Warner)

I lost track with “Annie” who worked there in 2003. She and “Anna” had their own place in Westminster for a while but that closed about six months ago. If anyone has a lead on Annie, it would be appreciated.

Jaytea

10-27-05, 19:59

Hey Cash,
There is no such intersection . . . it's Moulton and Oso. That's all I know about it, but might give it a shot and report back.

Havin' fun,
S/HOso turns into pacific park rd. at the 5 frwy. and there is an intersection called moulton /pacific park rd.! If there a place at this location please pm me with the info and I'll give you some info of a place in san clemente that I know!

Joe Monger

10-28-05, 00:36

Vlad De Sade

10-28-05, 02:46

Joe, my brother, whats up? I fell off of the radar for sure. Sorry, I never resppnded to your PM months ago. I got busy. And I couldnt satisfy your request, as it was, at the time... Please, PM me anytime.

Mongers, YOU guys need to listen up. Otherwise YOU will all end up like us suckers here in da SFV. Shit out of luck!

Seriously, PM: the details, exact city locations, girls names, phone #'s, everthing thats XXX rated etc. Keep the forum discreet. Make LE work for a change. They read these threads. They like when work is easy just like all of us do. Dont give them ammunition, probable cause and that pig fucker sense of irritation that were actually having sex and paying for it. And having fun while we do it.

Keep it off of da radar. And maybe your favorite place will stay open for just a little bit longer than it would have otherwise. They all close. However, we dont need to speed the process up by being stupid and full of inflated egos about our conquests. Were engaged in an illegal activity. Paying $$$ for sex. Unless your Joe. Than your getting paid to have sex. But thats for another thread... Just be smarter than the man. And always have fun.

Examples of reckless mongers ranting on threads thus destroying scenes. SFV 2003-2004. Inglewood 2004-2005. Santa Monica 2005. Dont be next!!!

Laterz, Bateman da Sadist

Samurai II

10-28-05, 12:09

I totally agree with Joe Monger! Please be more descreet.

Samurai

Yo. May I humbly suggest that there is a "right" and a "wrong" way to share info on these boards. Vicks used to be one of my favorites. One of the TRUSTED members here sent me a PM regarding Vicks a long while back and I had great experiences there. And then a few months later I found out Vicks got busted. And since then quite a few of you guys have been on the board running off at the mouth about Vicks. As the homies might say you're "making the spot HOT". I urge you all to be a bit more discreet in your posts. If not, then I assure you you can kiss Vicks goodbye. Go read the LA boards and take a look as to what's hapened to the MP's there.

Just one mans humble opinion,
Joe

Green Gopher

10-28-05, 17:19

Agreed! There is a subtle and effective way of clueing fellow hobbyist into the right direction. No need to make it so apparently obvious. If you dont want to do the homework and test a few out yourselves then you dont deserve any worthwhile info.

besides, its all about the PM's!

Joe Monger

10-29-05, 03:16

Member #3942

10-29-05, 07:56

Anyplace where the girl does the reach between your legs thing with lots of ass play? All my regs are tired and getting old.

Someone posted about san clemente. I know of 3 there and none of them do much not even a good massage unless Im not getting the right girl. Help a guy out.

828 N. Bristol St has anyone been here? Or how about Asian & Hispanic massage.
1966 E. Chapman Ave. #J ?

Asain_Ucker

10-29-05, 10:23

I agree with Joe 100% on his points. Over the past few weeks people have been actually giving out addresses, now thats not to bright. Anyway, we should all be a lil more discrect on many of the lacations. We are shooting ourselfs in our own foot, if we do that.

Lurking Fan

10-29-05, 11:45

828 N. Bristol St has anyone been here?

This place has been reported on several times in either this mp thread or the general reports thread. I've been there one time and wouldn't recommend. But of course YMMV at these types of places.

Jimmie Dean

10-29-05, 12:24

Have been to J recently and from what my ears are telling me they are gonna be moving as they are trying to go legit

Black04

10-29-05, 15:27

James D 2004

10-30-05, 01:50

There's only one way to share -- nothing. According to Speck. No exceptions.

Vick's case - it's been there forever. They know how to deal with LE and survive - they invented Q-therapy long ago when the need arise. Definitely not Qi as someone remembered. Q simply means stupid in some parts of Asia. They don't allow any new faces in from time to time, and sometimes they let everybody in. So anybody who uses the Vick's case to promote discretion is nuts.

Costa Mesa, Inglewood, Santa Monica, SFV - the bust aren't directly related to discovery by LE reading these boards. Most are well known for years in Inglewood. You can safely bet that all MP's along Manchester sell sex. You don't need any insider info. They got rid of all MP's when there is the will to do it - political.

Costa Mesa - they got rid of all KMP's by changing the city rules. SU Acupressure opened underground in Westminster in response. But that's impossible to keep it a secret. A large MP will attract attention. But if they keep one to two girl in an private apartment, they can open everywhere in OC, even in Irvine where everybody knows where it is.

If you are afraid that an MP closes, you are nobody. The busts results in surplus of girls looking for place to work. Say Parkaisan dropped to $150, which is MP price, but with online pictures and you can see the girl first. A lot of quality girls were brought to OC, from K town, T town, C town, cheaper if you count the gas cost to drive to LA. You can see the girl first without parting with the room rate first. In SGV, you can hook up with K girls in most apartments. They are getting younger and more eager to please, giving the C girls a hard time, with language as their own advantage.

LE is often the least worry. At least if you know something closed, you know that LE is responsible. If you tell somebody that you hardly know, or even you think you know a lot, you may not find the details posted in USG, but in many other smaller secret boards, with name of girls changed, added YMMV details, for various purposes, say to advance someone's reputation. You may never know. And if you know, that's too late, as the line to get in may be too long for you. It's only one example. There are many more worse than LE.

Bateman, you watched too much Bukkake video. Caution: TFT screen isn't fluid proof and the sudden temperature variation may ruin some pixels.

Jon Jones

10-30-05, 14:23

I have to agree with James D on this one. More MPs close for lack of business than LE busts. (And this board can be a great source of business)

Capa Negra 888

10-30-05, 15:18

I'm here in Cali visiting. so I picked up a copy of rumores in Santa ana.
I called a bunch of number but no answer, maybe it was too early around 930am. So i decided to try a massage parlor on harbor about half a block north of westminester blvd. When I called the placed I asked the girl about full service and she said yes. So I went there,when i got to the address it was a hair saloon. So, I called the number again and the girl said that it was the right place. So I went in, one of the girl led me to a room, then she told me to get naked. She started with massage that sucked unlike her. She kept saying that she went to school and she has a certificate. So I asked about full service... she started saying no... and talking about diseases... i decided to leave. Go back in the car and called another number. The girl directed me to Edinger and main. When I got there i called her again... then she handed to ph to a guy, and he told me what apartment to go to. There were only two girls there, again too early, anyway I picked the girl with the big booty and agreed on 120 for one hour. One hour later I walked out happy and relaxed ready to continue my vacation.

Trading Favs

10-30-05, 17:03

I've read quite a bit about this on another board...was wondering if anyone has had experience there..it's 103 on Euclid.

Also, pls PM me for a hint as to it's location or just a cross street...I've been down that area and maybe I'm just missing it.

Is it before Anaheim (as in Disney) or past it?

Survey Says

10-30-05, 18:23

Was in the area and took a trip to Bristol & 8th/9th. Visited before and left happy from Lucy, a bubbly Latina with natural D's. Asked if she worked there and was told no. The guy asked if I prefered a Latina or Asian, to which a replied with Latina. In comes Sandra, slim 40's wearing jeans and a medical jacket? Paid .40 for 1/2 to see how she looked coming thru the door. If I liked what I saw would up it to an hr for .55, but I didn't. I was covered with a towel the entire time and no sign of extras so no tip. Adios! She did tell me that she was roommates with Lucy who went to Mexico on vacation.

Took a trip down memory lane to #103 to see what kinda talent would be lurking. Paid $50 to mms and on the way to the room saw a very petite girl heading to the bathroom to clean up and was wishing she wouldn't come to my room. After about 5 mins in comes Shanel, that's how she spelled it, nice looking mid-20's honey. Session was very good as I filled up the raincoat with 2 pops of excitement. Started off with lame rub down of my back with lots of playing with the boys, on the flip she rubbed her body up, down and all around mine. Left to get the raincoat and when she got back was licking on the boys before giving me a cbj, cg, rcg, mish, and then back to cg. No discussion of money, tipped .80 without any complaints. She wiped the pipe with a warm towel and assisted me with getting dressed. Again, great session and pleased I visited after wasting .40 at the above MP.

Trading Favs

10-30-05, 21:58

Felt anxious today so I couldn't wait for any help on the location of 103.

So I tried to backtrack thru the threads and saw one where the address was mentioned.

Well, I drove down that way on Euclid, a little past the 22 freeway. Looking around I was trying to identify a Dentistry it was suppose to be next to.

I found the place w/the address but it was some run down hair salon. I drove down a bit further and noticed one in a supermarket type shopping area..but it was a dentistry.

Now i'm a bit confused. Did this 103 close up and move? When you guys write about 103, is it in another city?

Help a brother out. I'm willing to exchange info via PM. I know most of the same places, Santa Monica, COI, and in Los Al.

Green Gopher

10-31-05, 05:04

AMP's that closed lack of business should of offered more of what we wanted or offer better prices. Thats the nature of the game. I've tested out numerous MP's on my own dime which has better educated me. I can walk into a place and talk to mms and within the first 2 minutes I'm sure I can figure out if they offer extras or no without asking straight out which most of the time they wont even bother if you look like LE.

I do agree that the lack of business is more of a reason then LE to close down a MP but LE is not the only reason why these boards should be kept to essential info only. I know there are some people out there that will ruin it for everyone. I'm sorry but too much publicity raises up the prices. I live by the "pay what you are worth" prices but as girls become more sucessful they demand up front prices and limits. To that I say hell no! If you gave me a wack massage I probably wont tip at all. If she asks I just say b/c it was lame, if its a weak massage plus hj, I might give her .25, and with some of these girls I know some poor schmuck is paying triple my price. The trick is not to let it happen so much.

take it as you may, I for one like to think I can try to control the prices at a minimal. Besides, if you were worth any good info you'd be trading in PM's anyways.

Jeff 71

10-31-05, 14:30

Suite 103 on Euclid is at 13292 Euclid Ave.,in Garden Grove, just north of the 22 fway, and on the east side of Euclid. It is a rundown building, bluish gray colored, one-story. Enter Suite #103 through door in the back.

And remember to have fun.

Triverbum

10-31-05, 16:16

Green Gopher

10-31-05, 18:27

I usually park on that side street bordering the pet center. Take the back parking lot and use your jedi skills to find the correct number. The dentist office is next to it, if you see the dentist office you are close. Use the back door!

Member #3942

11-01-05, 19:39

I guess nobody has tried the black chick in costa mesa with the ad from CL. She only wanted 60 for an hour and says she has 5 years practice.

HolmesJr

11-02-05, 13:00

Tried the Fullerton location again. Nice time with new girl. Not a bad place at all. This was my second visit. Anybody else try this place?

One Wing Low

11-03-05, 04:14

Went in Vick at 7PM. There were 3 Korean girls and 1 latina. They were all overweight and in their late 20's early 30's.

Gina's a pretty heavy girl, probably 5'5 140Lbs, close to 30. Her face is below average with lots of acne scars; her body is flabby. She actually looks very homely, like a trucker's wife. She was the best looking girl there, which doesn't say much. She does know how to act like she's really enjoying her job. She moans a lot and keeps pulling you into her pussy. She says she's a Japanese from Yokohama. She does look more like Japanese than Korean.

Gina is way overrated. I can find much better looking girls for much less money in Tijuana's Zona Roja. Some of the street girls in TJ actually are far classier compared to Vick's girls. Vick really stinks in terms of the looks and quality of its talents. Other KAMPS have much younger and prettier girls.

I will probably never return to Vick's Uglyukkyfuk.

HolmesJr

11-03-05, 09:52

I will probably never return to Vick's Uglyukkyfuk.Is this your first time? I've been to many different establishments and have nothing really bad to say about Vicks. I actually believe it's one of the better places around. The girls have always been good to average. I've been to T.J. as well. Interesting how you say you Probably will never return to Vicks. Why probably?

AsianFan

11-03-05, 12:00

I have to agree with One Wing Low, I tried Gina, and had a good enough time, but she is much heavier than I like. I'm not too certain that she is Japanese, when she told me that I began asking her questions in Japanese and she responded "Oh, you speak the language" but she never answered the questions.

AF

Socalasian

11-03-05, 12:44

They are never japanese. Just one of those things. I've only seen one japanese girl ever and it was a wild gothy exchange student who I think was just horny and figured what the hell I can make some money too.

MPs are just about 99.99% Korean, Chinese, Vietnamese and even Malaysian. Couple Filipinas here and there too. Just the nature of the countries...

Happy Hunting!

Samurai II

11-03-05, 13:04

Hey guys, thank you for the candid report about Gina. I have been hearing about this Gina on this board, but I don`t think I have ever read a physical description of her. The reports mostly talk about her skills in GFE which I understand is highly rated.

I have come across girls that claim to be Japanese, but never actually met one at an AMP that was really Japanese. I don`t know why some girls say they are Japanese.... Just like Asian Fan, as soon as you say something in Japanese they change the subject. Some girls have lived in Japan for a little while so they are able to speak just enough Japanese that people would think they are from that country.

Oh well, I suppose it is a pretty harmless act unless you absolutely have a fetish for Japanese girls in particular. Then it becomes misleading to the mongers....

Stay safe gentlemen and keep us informed!

Samurai

PlaneGuy

11-04-05, 21:18

Hey guys, thank you for the candid report about Gina. I have been hearing about this Gina on this board, but I don`t think I have ever read a physical description of her. The reports mostly talk about her skills in GFE which I understand is highly rated.

I have come across girls that claim to be Japanese, but never actually met one at an AMP that was really Japanese.

SamuraiGina is not the hottest girl, but not nearly what "One Wing Low" described. She may not be very beautiful, but I would describe her as cute. However, her attitude more than makes up for it. She says she is HALF Japanese/half Korean.

As far as never seeing a Japanese girl at an AMP... I haven't seen any recently, but back in the 1980's, when I was in the military, I went to an AMP in Sacramento that was ALL Japanese. In fact, I was the only non-Japanese customer there. I also went to an AMP in Hollywood (also in the 80's) that had a Japanese girl.

Member #3942

11-05-05, 19:40

Any asians with a nice big ass? Where are they hiding?

Tequila Bob

11-07-05, 10:41

HolmesJr

11-07-05, 20:18

Checked out this place for the first time. I cruised in like I've been there many times. I asked to take a shower and the mms said no. I guess they don't have a shower? All in all the service was about a 7. I may check this place out again. I prefer Vicks.

Holmes

HolmesJr

11-07-05, 20:21

Went to a place I found through CL. It is near my work so I gave it a try.

The place is in a corner house on a main street. Has 2 bedrooms and usually 2 girls work at a time. MMS says they get new girls quite often.

Well the girl was pretty, nice body, said she was a K.

Did the deed and was on my way.

.5 house and .8 tip

Do your homework and you'll find it. Address is 922.I checked this place out too. I called recently and asked for the girl I had and the mms said she doesn't work there anymore. I guess they get new girls often.

HolmesJr

11-08-05, 11:17

Any asians with a nice big ass? Where are they hiding?You might want to check Larson for Honey. She has the best ass I've seen on a K girl.

City Slicker

11-08-05, 18:27

Ok, I've been here twice no with no play (well teh first provider wante 2 big ones for HJ). However this place was complete booked at lunch and I had to wait.

Please let me know if you guys got something good from this place. There are numerous providers.

City

Member #3942

11-09-05, 08:34

"You might want to check Larson for Honey." She has the best ass I've seen on a K girl.???? Hey some info would be sweet, whats she wear so I know if I can even get to the ass? Thanks.

Ana the half black girl in costa mesa, messy apartment and she was wearing jeans. Yuck, well shes cool looking but jeans? So the massage table is in her bedroom and shes real nice and I really cant say anything bad baout her except for JEANS?

Body Center on Bristol you have to be cool and yeah its going to cost you two jascksons for a hj. Thats the cost of fair massage girls with some oil. Should ask for heidi, shes real nice, great massage and if you go there more then once shes even better.

Body center on Baker, havnt been there for years. Walked in since I saw it was busy and there were 3 cuties at the desk. All young white girls. Anyone been there?

Body center in Lake Forest. Hey this place is usally good for a massage. Lots of women work here and they are mostly nice. Good massage. They dont want to get in trouble so youre lucky if you get anything. They have been there a long time. Thats why they are still there. They are good at massage.

New place on Lambert in Lake Forest, Went back and evone was wearing pants. If she wore a short skirt I would go there everyday. If anyone tries this place tell her to wear a short skirt of big shorts. Thanks. Oh she just give massage.

Vics: Gina is great. All the girls there are decent looking. Hey just cause they arnt 10's dont be so worried. They do a good job looking sexy. Plus they know how to treat you right. If you want a perfect import model, go to a car show and try the backseat.

Thanks for everyone comming back from vacation and posting. I was shocked.

Migrant One

11-09-05, 11:41

Body center on Baker, havnt been there for years. Walked in since I saw it was busy and there were 3 cuties at the desk. All young white girls. Anyone been there?

I've gone there often for straight massage. There are some cuties there and great massage, but I would be really really surprised if there are any 'extras' on the menu. It caters to men and women and offers lots of different services.

I never even tried due to the atmosphere (and that I wanted a good strong massage)

Member #3942

11-12-05, 10:32

Total Wellness Area: Santa Ana

Is this place worth 5 minutes of our time?

Whats with the latina places way out in Lake E???

Someone told me about a big ass'd asian but not sure if they work anymore. So I guess there are none. Im going to recruit one from the streets, she will get rich. Anyway been working too much and only stopped into some strip clubs. So maybe this week some mongering.

Member #3942

11-12-05, 21:13

If you know the place in San Clemente next to the resturant, then on Saturdays Helen works on on weekends. She always wears a skirt and is kinda cute. About 35 short with pretty bid tatas.

New place on Alicia Pkway in Laguna Hills. Its owned by the same people that own o-spa in dana point. The manager is thin and hot. Says theres nice girls working there which I didnt see since she was still working on the rooms.

Herb Surfs

11-13-05, 12:27

Total Wellness in SA is out of business as of two weeks ago.

Sign on the door gives a new phone number, it goes to 601 E. Valencia YL, all the girls have gone there.

It "was" worth it.

Member #3942

11-13-05, 12:42

Total Wellness in SA is out of business as of two weeks ago.

Sign on the door gives a new phone number, it goes to 601 E. Valencia YL, all the girls have gone there.

It "was" worth" it.

Dont remember that place. CLue me in, hahahah. Anyway I think they are too far now. Unless they had young cuties wearing skirts.

Anyone seen any skirts in an amp lately? I reported on one in SJC on saturdays only. Still looking for more. Unless someone had a massage where the girl lifted her leg up over your face so you could go to town.

828 N. Bristol St did I ask about this place?

PlaneGuy

11-14-05, 22:41

Vics: . . .All the girls there are decent looking. Hey just cause they arnt 10's dont be so worried. They do a good job looking sexy. Plus they know how to treat you right. If you want a perfect import model, go to a car show and try the backseat..There are a few PERFECT looking girls at Vics. I mean PERFECT!

Number Cruncher

11-15-05, 21:49

Whats up fellas? I had a wicked hangover yesterday after drinking a fifth of rum and a few beers the night before and called in sick to work. I need to stop doing that, LOL. Well at about 10 or so, I woke up and felt better, so started going through the Register ad's - you know which section I'm referring to. Place that caught my eye was on Romneya St. in Anaheim and advertised free table shower. There are a few other ad's for the same complex. I gave them a call and they quoted $40 for 1/2 hour and $50 for full hour.

I crusied over there and they are in a medical complex - a little hard to find at first, god bless mapquest. To make a long story short, this is a rub and tug place. The girl I got had a nice body and was wearing a tight shirt and jeans. I took the hour, since it was only $10 more. Table shower was OK, a little flirting going on. Massage was excellent, one of the best I've had at an MP. After rubbing her ass a little bit and her not saying anything, I knew extras were on the menu. Finally, I rolled over and she pointed to the cock and said "massage this," and I said "please do." Tug was decent - took a little while for me to blow, maybe because I was hung over, but didn't receive any attitude from her or signs of impatience.

All in all, a good way to spend a day off work. Her name was Mimi, and they are Chinese at this place - an interesting contrast to the Koreans. I doubt any extras over the HJ are available, possibly if you speak Chinese. I gave her a $40 tip and was on my way. Only slight irritating thing was that the phone kept ringing and she kept answering it. She said one other girl was working there but I didn't see her. Doorbell kept ringing too, but I didn't hear any voices or indications that people were entering. Try this place out if you want a good table shower, massage, and tug. Lata gents.

Member #3942

11-16-05, 08:16

If you want the hoe-down on 4-5 ladies at Body center of Lake Forest, msg me. I can tell you which ones I had and what they did.

If you guys think I get a lot of msgs, I dont. I dont know of any good places in north OC. Someone throw me a bone.

HolmesJr

11-16-05, 16:52

Total Wellness in SA is out of business as of two weeks ago.

Sign on the door gives a new phone number, it goes to 601 E. Valencia YL, all the girls have gone there.

It "was" worth it.

I tried this place today. Vietnamese ladies. Not very attractive. Factory. I asked about Kiana and I was told she was on vacation.

Won't go back.

Member #3942

11-16-05, 20:12

Thanks for the msg's. I sent some back to give me 2-cents. Went to the new O-spa yesterday in Aliso Viejo. Its was closed. Guess the new girl didnt show up. Kinda interested since the dana point o-spa gives such a good massage. Hope the girl is young and kinky. Yeah right!

Roman

11-17-05, 00:26

Would some kind monger send me the location of Vick's if it is
still worth trying...

Thanks bros.

ROMAN

Jeff 71

11-17-05, 13:18

Remember, this only works if you like Koreans. Fortunately for me, I do:

Vick Accu-Med
5450 Katella Ave # 113 (rearmost unit)
Los Alamitos, CA 90720
(562) 598-7636

Woohoo59

11-17-05, 20:07

Remember, this only works if you like Koreans. Fortunately for me, I do:

Vick Accu-Med
5450 Katella Ave # 113 (rearmost unit)
Los Alamitos, CA 90720
(562) 598-7636

Dude! Keep it on the down low!

PM sensitive info; make LE work for it.

PlaneGuy

11-17-05, 23:36

Remember, this only works if you like Koreans. Fortunately for me, I do:

Vick Accu-Med
5450 Katella Ave # 113 (rearmost unit)
Los Alamitos, CA 90720
(562) 598-7636Please be a little more discreet.

I'd like to keep the place open!

Green Gopher

11-18-05, 07:14

Had Mimi over at fair today, good massage w/ standard handshake to compliment.... sort of sketchy but warmed up nicely after a bit of persuasion. Felt up no prob, damage .4 tip.

She's new there, used to work in Arcadia at some other AMP so she says. Decent looking but still I'd give her a 6 in the face, and a 6 on the body. Thin but not tight. Decent looking but not young. but You come away thinking she'd be a beautiful girl if she were younger. Technique was better then most but not the best, i'd rate her a 8 but 10 on effort. The post massage is bloody awesome!

Jeff 71

11-18-05, 12:27

Dudes, the detail is from the yellow pages, where Vick is listed under "Massage Therapy." Effective therapy is available from the generally Korean staff of Vick. Please _consider_ lightening up.

Jon Jones

11-18-05, 13:27

Please be a little more discreet.

I'd like to keep the place open!

Discreet? Following is your quote of a few weeks ago:

"Try out Angel at Vic Accu Therapy. She is a 10, gives a great massage and definately gives a happy ending!"

Do you think that LE doesn't have a phone book?

I don't want to start a long discussion again (since this has been discussed many times over the years), but addresses/contact information are important and a general post is much safer legally than a PM.

Samurai II

11-18-05, 14:22

huh, newbies....
sigh...

Remember, this only works if you like Koreans. Fortunately for me, I do:

Vick Accu-Med
5450 Katella Ave # 113 (rearmost unit)
Los Alamitos, CA 90720
(562) 598-7636

Member #3942

11-18-05, 20:00

Hey I went to Vics yesterday and all the massages are given by guys. Yes its true they are all dudes. Go bust that!

Fe Maiden

11-18-05, 22:01

Number Cruncher

11-18-05, 22:29

St Stephen

11-19-05, 01:21

I agree, there have been a few mps posted on here that have gone bad. General information and let the other guy do the research. Look at the street scene in So Cal, it is DEAD. I haven't seen a decent hooker in OC in so long it sucks. Sure you can cruise Harbour and maybe see one, but LE is heavy and I just can't take that risk anymore. Post it in general terms. Let go of your egos about knowing the newest hot spot, and let guys do the footwork if they want to find out.

Green Gopher

11-19-05, 03:12

Did you ever figure out what suite letter this place is?
walk into the quad turn left immediately thru the double doors. Make a right into the hall.... at the end of the hall you stop and release. #'s , letters? sorry no i dont.

Green Gopher

11-19-05, 03:16

Its funny to read about you fuckers arguing about this place. I haven't been there yet, but perhaps I should. Plane Guy - you asked someone to "be more discreet?" It's not like you've had 15 or so detailed posts about this place or anything. There is a place called 'Japanese Spa' in the IE that was the shit for a while. One of the best in Socal, in terms of provider looks, enthusiasm, prices, etc. These girls were hot and would go buck wild. However, there were too many posts about this place involving explicit details of experiences. Traffic increased heavily and I think there was a bust too. Anyway - quality there has declined substantially - 30+ year old hags, from what I understand. I no longer frequent the place.

My point is this, which is somewhat of a theory - too many posts about one place on here will eventually doom it. And lets don't be stupid enough to think that LE doesn't know about Vicks, or that a few posts on here will clue in LE. They may be extreme assholes, but they're not stupid. It's not the posts that makes LE zero in on an MP, its the increased traffic. After a bust, sometimes a new manager takes over, girls go to other MP's, and your favorite spot now sucks. To sum up this post in one sentence, If there is a place that is awesome with hot, crazy girls, keep it to yourself and don't do a ton of posts. NC out!
keeping it to yourself is a bit much. After all, this forum is based upon helping eachother with our mongering activities.

keying other members here is essential but blatantly posting all the hard info for a one time browser to come and mooch off all the info and pass the word along will eventually shut the place down. Most will just scroll, looking for addresses and telephone numbers, which is sometimes why we use variable forms of releasing #'s. Do what you will but if you dont ever contribute, dont expect any info in return.

saw Pattie today. Moved locations to Anahiem area off the 5fwy. Nice comfortable bj for about 10 minutes with twin action. Asked for tit job for extra .1 nice finish and left. total dmg .4 + .1 = .5

Conner11

11-19-05, 13:24

Visited for second time. You know what I can't stand is when you're done, some girls don't change the sheets. Who wants to lie on my sheets after me? They did the same at Vics.

Migrant One

11-19-05, 16:06

Went to mp on central, got older chinese lady, nice massage but I don't think any extras on menu, even though I see often on CL. If anyone has different experience, please pm me. I saw some very cute ladies there and convenient for me so hoping someone has better luck and will share

thanks

Hotwire

11-19-05, 17:16

I both called and drove to Vick's last week and was told nothing but accupuncture available here. I'm an old fart and retired FD I don't even know a cop,but the mamasan wasn't giving in.Would appreciate someone PMing me the password. Ended up going to another place in N.Oc on a major street at a corner and it was really worth the trip.

Ferrydust

11-21-05, 15:11

Body center on Baker, havnt been there for years. Walked in since I saw it was busy and there were 3 cuties at the desk. All young white girls. Anyone been there? Is this 660? Saw a Maria and TOFTT. I didn't see any other cuties on that day so would love to know if I should have a follow-up visit!

oz

Member #3942

11-21-05, 16:59

Did you know that Ok accu also swaps girls with the place on chapman in fullerton? Love it when the girl says shes half jap and she really isnt. Good lookers at both places.

Did you know theres a place behind Hoffs Hut across from JWA? Anyone been there? Its appointment only.

Did you know theres an O-spa on alicia pwy? Its new, anyone been there yet?

Anyone been to any new places let me know. I know theres 3 girls working at a place on bristol and ones a latina. I have heard from a few people that its not good. Any comments? Yes its in the paper.

HolmesJr

11-21-05, 19:15

Had another visit. MMS is totally cool. I seem to get a new girl everytime. Good experience everytime so far.

Holmes

Tropic Tourist

11-22-05, 20:46

Did you know that Ok accu also swaps girls with the place on chapman in fullerton? Love it when the girl says shes half jap and she really isnt. Good lookers at both places.All things being equal, is there a price differential between the two places, in terms of entry and tip?

Tequila Bob

11-25-05, 12:48

The place in north oc definitley has a good rotation schedule.
I've been there 4x and never the same gal.
Although now I'm getting bored with it.
I love the hunt for a new place!

Member #3942

11-25-05, 23:08

Right on BOB!!!! Its the thrill of a new place with "I dont know whats going to happen" thats hot.

Still looking for a fun new place.

Layin Pipe

11-26-05, 02:09

Was in need of a "REAL" massage to work out the kinks, so I decided to go to East West Spa because they give a great massage & I wanted to try out their table shower as well. Decided on the 60 minutes for $60 option.

Went to the room and got undressed and laid on the table sans towel. A few minutes later in walked Julia, a cute and petite Chinese girl. Julia didn't bother to cover me with a towel which I took as a good sign. Julia asks if I want the light, medium or hard massage. Since I was in need of having a few kinks worked out, I opted for the hard massage.

Julia gave what I can only describe as the perfect balance between a "REAL" and "EROTIC" massage. She has wonderful hands!!! She gave me a great massage on the shoulders, back, legs and spent quite a long time massaging my ass.

When it came time for the flip, Julia still didn't bother to cover me with the towel. Definitely a good sign! She continues to massage my chest, stomach and legs. She spends lot of time rubbing the inside of my thighs while lightly brushing the boys and the Pipe! Talk about TEASE!!!

It is finally time for the table shower. Julia hands me a towel and says I better cover up. After we walk across the hallway into the table shower room, she grabs the towel and says I won't be needing that in here! I lay down on my stomach and she goes to work and gets me all soaped up and rinses me off. After the flip, she repeats the process on the front and rinses me off again. Just when I am wondering if I need to relocate her hand to the Pipe, she soaps him up and goes to work! I give her an A+ in technique as she has me exploding in a matter of minutes. Just when I thought it couldn't get any better, she rinses off the Pipe and gives him a quick kiss!!! I will definitely be back!!!

Member #3942

11-26-05, 10:11

Wow LAying Pipe is back from the dead. Guess you been busy? Yeah Ive seen you post on another site but you do at least post!!!'

I am really temted to try the place across from Hoffs Hut at the airport. Just dont have time right now and someone told me to check Larson out. Well I was hopeing some new place and some cuties. 828 N. Bristol St. #106, SA??? Guess nobody wants to talk about the place? Later!

Layin Pipe

11-26-05, 21:18

828 N. Bristol St. #106, SA??? Guess nobody wants to talk about the place? Later!
Cash Value,

The place you are referring to is:

Bristol Body Therapy
828 N Bristol Street #106
Santa Ana CA 92703

Nobody wants to talk about it because it is legit with no extras. Have you heard different?

For those that are interested, they advertise on El Clasificado. Click here (www.elclasificado.com/RE.ASP?CurrentClass=16&vwPg=&Calc=0&cboSClass=201&txtSearch=%28714%29550-8085&cboOpt=1&cboSort=2) for their ad.

Layin Pipe

Layin Pipe

11-27-05, 00:57

Cash Value,

Now that I think about it, #1076 might be up your alley! They wear medical scrubs which makes for easy access. If you need contact info, send me a PM.

Layin Pipe

Asain_Ucker

11-27-05, 20:47

Tequila,

I've been there once and bang a cute korean spinner named Cindy, a lil pricey though,50/100 fs. I quote 80 but she won't bend. Got CBJ,DATY,Mish and did the encore with her on hands and knees. (Doggie)

The place in north oc definitley has a good rotation schedule.
I've been there 4x and never the same gal.
Although now I'm getting bored with it.
I love the hunt for a new place!

City Slicker

11-28-05, 15:14

This sounds like a winner! What is the address?

Was in need of a "REAL" massage to work out the kinks, so I decided to go to East West Spa because they give a great massage & I wanted to try out their table shower as well. Decided on the 60 minutes for $60 option.

Went to the room and got undressed and laid on the table sans towel. A few minutes later in walked Julia, a cute and petite Chinese girl. Julia didn't bother to cover me with a towel which I took as a good sign. Julia asks if I want the light, medium or hard massage. Since I was in need of having a few kinks worked out, I opted for the hard massage.

Julia gave what I can only describe as the perfect balance between a "REAL" and "EROTIC" massage. She has wonderful hands!!! She gave me a great massage on the shoulders, back, legs and spent quite a long time massaging my ass.

When it came time for the flip, Julia still didn't bother to cover me with the towel. Definitely a good sign! She continues to massage my chest, stomach and legs. She spends lot of time rubbing the inside of my thighs while lightly brushing the boys and the Pipe! Talk about TEASE!!!

It is finally time for the table shower. Julia hands me a towel and says I better cover up. After we walk across the hallway into the table shower room, she grabs the towel and says I won't be needing that in here! I lay down on my stomach and she goes to work and gets me all soaped up and rinses me off. After the flip, she repeats the process on the front and rinses me off again. Just when I am wondering if I need to relocate her hand to the Pipe, she soaps him up and goes to work! I give her an A+ in technique as she has me exploding in a matter of minutes. Just when I thought it couldn't get any better, she rinses off the Pipe and gives him a quick kiss!!! I will definitely be back!!!

BlkMstrDerek8

11-28-05, 19:25

Layin Pipe,

How much did Julia want on top of the $60 house fee? Sounds like she was a great experience.

Was in need of a "REAL" massage to work out the kinks, so I decided to go to East West Spa because they give a great massage & I wanted to try out their table shower as well. Decided on the 60 minutes for $60 option.

Went to the room and got undressed and laid on the table sans towel. A few minutes later in walked Julia, a cute and petite Chinese girl. Julia didn't bother to cover me with a towel which I took as a good sign. Julia asks if I want the light, medium or hard massage. Since I was in need of having a few kinks worked out, I opted for the hard massage.

Julia gave what I can only describe as the perfect balance between a "REAL" and "EROTIC" massage. She has wonderful hands!!! She gave me a great massage on the shoulders, back, legs and spent quite a long time massaging my ass.

When it came time for the flip, Julia still didn't bother to cover me with the towel. Definitely a good sign! She continues to massage my chest, stomach and legs. She spends lot of time rubbing the inside of my thighs while lightly brushing the boys and the Pipe! Talk about TEASE!!!

It is finally time for the table shower. Julia hands me a towel and says I better cover up. After we walk across the hallway into the table shower room, she grabs the towel and says I won't be needing that in here! I lay down on my stomach and she goes to work and gets me all soaped up and rinses me off. After the flip, she repeats the process on the front and rinses me off again. Just when I am wondering if I need to relocate her hand to the Pipe, she soaps him up and goes to work! I give her an A+ in technique as she has me exploding in a matter of minutes. Just when I thought it couldn't get any better, she rinses off the Pipe and gives him a quick kiss!!! I will definitely be back!!!

Tequila Bob

11-29-05, 15:04

So I went for what I thought was a sure thing at an mp I've been before and never turned down. This place is in La Habra (a drive for me).
Well the chick was pretty, and she let my hands roam, but I was shut down.
So, needless to say, no tip *****.

Also went to the place on bristol and a numbered street. I had been there once before and was shut down. Boy I like abuse. The chick I had the first time was really hot though so I had to try again. This place is a real shit hole so I was sure more is available.
Anyhow I got Emily and she was pretty and slim. Nice light touch massage with a little attention to the boys and on the flip was able to play with two very nice tits. Just got a hj this time. Damage was .4 in, and .4 tip.

Have fun!

Member #3942

12-01-05, 20:27

Had another good session. Ash does a great job. Even saw an older lady from san clement there now. Her name was KIm now its Mimi. Anyone seen other girls there besides Cece, Candy, Rachel, Gina or Alice? Ive seen all of them and seen more in there.

Seymore Butts

12-01-05, 20:47

Have been there several times usually saw Lucy, this time saw Eva, short cute very nice. Its hard to see their shape under the scrubs,however when they are down, mamaluke! what a bod! While face down the usual light massage with attention to all the right spots, on the flip she could see my agitated state and asked if she should get the oil. YES! Very good tug, not rushed. I will be back. more is available.

I am new to the hobby, and look for mp's anywhere but south of the Y is good. There is another in SC off of De las mares that I have hear about and will try. Will report back.

Ferrydust

12-01-05, 23:49

Had another visit. MMS is totally cool. I seem to get a new girl everytime. Good experience everytime so far.

HolmesThis place sure has made a name for itself quick and brought out public quick which makes me worry a little. Props to Cash Value who threw me a bone when I thought I was doing him a favor.

HolmesJr. you say new girl everytime... I saw K and she was 7/7/7 as far as face/body/talent. What are your reviews on this rating. Are there some better than K?

MMS is Cindy and she is very cool but this place is a f&cking pricey!

oz

HolmesJr

12-02-05, 14:12

This place sure has made a name for itself quick and brought out public quick which makes me worry a little. Props to Cash Value who threw me a bone when I thought I was doing him a favor.

HolmesJr. you say new girl everytime... I saw K and she was 7/7/7 as far as face/body/talent. What are your reviews on this rating. Are there some better than K?

MMS is Cindy and she is very cool but this place is a f&cking pricey!

oz

Next time you plan to go. Call mms first. I'll bet she'll remember you, especially if you call her from the same number you originally called with. Ask her if she remembers you and then ask her what girl is working that day. And let her know what kind of girl you would like. Big, small , medium... She'll hook you up.

DiegoHills858

12-03-05, 23:57

Tried out east west spa out on tuesday night. Paid the 60 for an hour. Chinese woman in her forties (face-2, body-2, service-6). Asked for the hard massage and there was no towel involved but too much oil. It was a pretty good massage with ass/ball play. Was allowed to touch with her clothes on. On the flip she put the towel on but I took it off and she continued her massage lightly passing her hand over. Then went for the table shower with lots of touching involved. Lots of ass play especially with finger. Played with the dick a lot during the shower. Went back to the room and she said we were done. I acted surprised and asked her for extras. I placed her hand on my dick and she said she couldnt do it but she continued the hj while i stood up next to her. Tried to kiss me but I was not getting near that. Overall service was good, but looks could have been a lot better.

James D 2004

12-05-05, 01:57

Hey Layin, your report is selected as teaching material for the USG survival guide. See here (http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=402213&postcount=2).

Was in need of a "REAL" massage to work out the kinks, so I decided to go to East West Spa because they give a great massage & I wanted to try out their table shower as well. Decided on the 60 minutes for $60 option.

Went to the room and got undressed and laid on the table sans towel. A few minutes later in walked Julia, a cute and petite Chinese girl. Julia didn't bother to cover me with a towel which I took as a good sign. Julia asks if I want the light, medium or hard massage. Since I was in need of having a few kinks worked out, I opted for the hard massage.

Julia gave what I can only describe as the perfect balance between a "REAL" and "EROTIC" massage. She has wonderful hands!!! She gave me a great massage on the shoulders, back, legs and spent quite a long time massaging my ass.

When it came time for the flip, Julia still didn't bother to cover me with the towel. Definitely a good sign! She continues to massage my chest, stomach and legs. She spends lot of time rubbing the inside of my thighs while lightly brushing the boys and the Pipe! Talk about TEASE!!!

It is finally time for the table shower. Julia hands me a towel and says I better cover up. After we walk across the hallway into the table shower room, she grabs the towel and says I won't be needing that in here! I lay down on my stomach and she goes to work and gets me all soaped up and rinses me off. After the flip, she repeats the process on the front and rinses me off again. Just when I am wondering if I need to relocate her hand to the Pipe, she soaps him up and goes to work! I give her an A+ in technique as she has me exploding in a matter of minutes. Just when I thought it couldn't get any better, she rinses off the Pipe and gives him a quick kiss!!! I will definitely be back!!!

Glue Stic

12-05-05, 12:24

Went to a new "SPA" located in Asian Strip mall on Euclid in Santa Ana. $40. for 1/2 hour admission, providers very careful of services provided. Spent 80. for a full range of services. Get her done!

Layin Pipe

12-05-05, 13:43

Hey Layin, your report is selected as teaching material for the USG survival guide.James D 2004,

Don't flatter yourself, nobody looks to you for guidance! We just enjoy the emotional rants you go on when you haven't been taking your meds.

BTW, please don't have the Christmas Tree Gang come after me!!! ROFLMAO!!!

BTW, I'm sure you haven't heard of the Christmas Tree Gang, who might well be hacking, probing about your IP right now, and they are well known to decorate your front porch unlike any designers, with whatever materials they can find, in any time of the year, whether you are gated or not. Go back to your potty.For those of you who are unaware of the Christmas Tree Gang take a quick look here on the Los Angeles thread.

BTW, you are a wonderful spokesman, you keep proving my point over and over again.

The only thing James D 2004 is good for is an occasional laugh.Thanks again for another great laugh!!!

Layin Pipe

James D 2004

12-05-05, 18:03

This is very typical. Layin didn't response to diegohills's or other's misfortune, but find the time to deflect the attention.

City Slicker

12-05-05, 18:18

This a pretty much hit and miss place. I guess they are real careful regarding LE. I've been there twice since reading Layin Pipe's post. First time was with Kristy, and she was real good with the massage but no extra. Second time with Julia. She was real leary when I told her a friend has suggested her since the 'happy ending' he received was good. She was all offended and said 'I never do that.'

Please let me know if anyone has been experience there....by the way, I dont even look like LE and they were leary.

City Slicker

Layin Pipe,

How much did Julia want on top of the $60 house fee? Sounds like she was a great experience.

Ho Down Man

12-05-05, 22:27

Went to a new "SPA" located in Asian Strip mall on Euclid in Santa Ana. $40. for 1/2 hour admission, providers very careful of services provided. Spent 80. for a full range of services. Get her done!

Hey Glue, does this place say 2002 above the door on Euclid??? If so, can you give me more detail. I live right by there and have been thinking about stopping. Your experiences will help.

Let me know

Ho man

DiegoHills858

12-06-05, 00:37

This is very typical. Layin didn't response to diegohills's or other's misfortune, but find the time to deflect the attention.

I have stayed away from all of the things that JD 2004 says but this time I have to intervene. I owe Layin Pipe for giving me information about East West. I had a good experience there. I have gone back since and have plans to keep going there. I may not have liked her looks but the service was good and I saw other girls who were better looking. Layin Pipe has given me information on different places and all of them have been good tips. I do not understand how JD 2004 can characterize my trip as misfortune when I said that I did have a good experience there.

James D 2004

12-06-05, 01:20

I don't know your standard. Face 2, body 2, a 6 handjob, by a 40 something woman, and you call that good experience? I call that sucks. I'm glad that City Slicker did the right thing and stood up to that shit.

Poupli_Kid

12-06-05, 03:00

I do not understand how JD 2004 can characterize my trip as misfortune when I said that I did have a good experience there.
That's an easy one. He's retarded, that's why.

Be careful DH858. He's already got the Christmas Tree Gang after me and Layin. You don't want to be next. LOL!!!

James D 2004

12-06-05, 03:29

That Potty kid also like 40 ish woman, 2 face, 2 body, and a 6 hand job. You are too easy, or retard?

HolmesJr

12-06-05, 10:22

Bbbjlvr

12-06-05, 11:42

After reading all of the posts, finally stopped by Vics yesterday. I called in advance to try to get Gina, but mms said she not working. I went anyways. I walked in and asked for Gina just to let her know that I was in the know. She asked if I had been there before, and of course I said yes.

Mms led me to a room and I paid .5. I showered and waited. Mimi came in and introduced herself. She is Korean, about mid-20s, 6 face and 8 body with nice B bolt-ons. Mimi gave a decent massage for about 10 minutes. Then went to the light touch, played with the boys, and then to a topless rub. After the flip, got a decent cbj, 69, cg, mish, doggie, rcg in chair, and then finished in standing doggie. She was pretty mechanical, so I would rate service as a 6.

Funny thing is that after it was over, her attitude changed for the better. She took the cover off and cleaned me up and then offered a hot towel and water. She came back with three hot towels and a bottle of water. She proceeded to give me one for my hands, used the second to clean me up real good, and then used the third to wipe my chest and arms down. Then, she helped me get dressed. She even put my socks on.

I tipped .8, and she didn't even check it. Not bad overall, but I still want to try Gina.

Seymore Butts

12-06-05, 12:56

Well I had to try this place out. There have been numerous reviews about this place. I didn't really like this place. I'm not into chicks in scrubs. I don't really like hj factories either. I have to give this place a thumbs down.Its whats under the scrubs...or whats not :) Definately not an hj factory. Been there at least 5 times, 3 different providers all menu items available. They are very cautious with new patrons. Go and ask for Eva or Amy.

City Slicker

12-06-05, 13:27

Please dont drag my name into this spill. Layin Pipe is a good dude and have provide some useful info that I've used in the past so he is an upstanding monger. James D, I enjoy reading your post and experience too.

Why cant we just get along and use this forum as place of share info?

Peace to all.
City Slicker

I don't know your standard. Face 2, body 2, a 6 handjob, by a 40 something woman, and you call that good experience? I call that sucks. I'm glad that City Slicker did the right thing and stood up to that shit.

Poker Man

12-07-05, 02:56

Went to place near John Wayne that advertises occasionally in OCR (Sports section, sometimes Classifieds). There are two places right next to each other. I went to the one on the far right. I had a so-so looking hispanic girl with humongous knockers. Prior to her coming in, I had the fake chiro doctor come in to "examine" me. I always look forward to this 10 seconds of uneasiness. He touches my shoulder and says "oooh yeah, you're really tense". Thanks doc!

Went for the half hour, lots of oil - probably rate the massage a 5 out of 10, although enough teasing to make the flip end happily.

BillLibsey

12-07-05, 06:30

Check 9210 Katella. Next to a weird place with creepy guys hanging around. But harmless.Guess I should check my facts first, especially as a long-time lurker and new poster. Hadn't been for a couple of months, and just stopped by - no sign of life in that place any longer. So I guess I'll bump the original question - anyone have tips on Annie's whereabouts?

Also, Layin Pipe, given my small # of posts, I don't expect a lot of info, but just wondered if you had been to E/W a few times prior to the experience you posted, so maybe they knew you well. I've had no luck there twice, even doing all the standard "tricks" (touching, etc.), even with Julia. Didn't see the same girl twice, though.

Horne

12-07-05, 11:45

Both Beer Guzzler and Laying Pipe has given this out of towner help when I have been in OC. They did not steer me wrong before and I doubt that Laying Pipe is up to anything other than providing helpful reports, thanks to both of you again.

HolmesJr

12-07-05, 13:02

Its whats under the scrubs...or whats not :) Definately not an hj factory. Been there at least 5 times, 3 different providers all menu items available. They are very cautious with new patrons. Go and ask for Eva or Amy.

I'm sure FS is available but it's not your typical FS place. The girls I saw there were just so so. I really don't like the scrubs. I decided not to go the distance with the girl I got although she was decent. There are too many good places to go. I won't be back to 1076.

Viper92552

12-07-05, 17:01

I went to 1046 in Tustin about 5 months ago. I had Ming Ming she did a great BBBJCIM on me and I will never forget it! Ehre the hell is she now IM me if you have any info! She is the best Chinese provider I have ever had!

Bbbjlvr

12-08-05, 10:38

Had to try Gina out, so I went back to Vic's yesterday. Same routine. Got in to room, gave mms .5, showered, and waited. Gina came right in and asked if I'd been there before. I said yes and told her that I saw her about three months ago, which I hadn't. She looked for a second, and then said, "Oh yeah, I remember now. Long time no see." I thought yeah right as she laid down to spoon.

She tried very hard to make it a GFE, but with what I thought was a 6 face, and 6 body, it was difficult for me to get into. But I'd still give her a 8 for attitude. After some spooning, we went into LFK, CBJ, 69, mish, to CG finish.

We stayed in 69 for a long time as she seemed to be enjoying it, but I started to fatigue. She convulsed a lot, and said she came. But, after that, she didn't want to do anymore work. She refused to get on top. She only wanted mish. I had to pull her up on top of me into CG. She cleaned me up, and I left.

Overall a good experience, but I will probably not repeat with her. Maybe I'll try Angel next.

I read earlier about Sami. Anyone else had her?

AsianFan

12-09-05, 09:15

Is 103 still open?

AF

PCH Monger

12-09-05, 09:27

Yes it is. I was there yesterday but didn't partake because MMS said they were pretty busy.

Is 103 still open?

AF

City Slicker

12-09-05, 16:21

Tried Linda yesterday. Said she has only been there 2 weeks and is new to the business so I knew I needed to guide her along. Her HJ was real mechanical and didnt allow my hands to roam...maybe next time.

I've also been with CeCe, Ginger (my fav), and Tina.

Enjoy
City Slicker.

Had another good session. Ash does a great job. Even saw an older lady from san clement there now. Her name was KIm now its Mimi. Anyone seen other girls there besides Cece, Candy, Rachel, Gina or Alice? Ive seen all of them and seen more in there.

Oc Amper

12-10-05, 00:58

I know where the location is, I just need the number to call, or partial number. I've looked on CL, but there are way too many to attempt to call :(

Anyone willing to give a hint?

John02

12-10-05, 01:56

Annie closed up shop and moved to Florida. Anyway that's what she told me when I saw her on her last day in business. It's an AA meeting place right next door so it fills up at 7 PM until about 10 PM.

Guess I should check my facts first, especially as a long-time lurker and new poster. Hadn't been for a couple of months, and just stopped by - no sign of life in that place any longer. So I guess I'll bump the original question - anyone have tips on Annie's whereabouts?

Also, Layin Pipe, given my small # of posts, I don't expect a lot of info, but just wondered if you had been to E/W a few times prior to the experience you posted, so maybe they knew you well. I've had no luck there twice, even doing all the standard "tricks" (touching, etc.), even with Julia. Didn't see the same girl twice, though.

PCH Monger

12-10-05, 02:51

I finally had a chance to go to '103' some of the guys on the forum has been posting about. I paid my .5 at the door and was led to the usual dimly lit rooms. My only small complaint is that they didn't have a shower there. Anyway, as I was undressing, Eva walked in. She is very cute and petite. I rate her a 7.5 but that's just me. She gave me a pretty decent massage paying good attention to the nether regions. At the flip, she "massaged" a very tense muscle I had while my hands roamed around that soft firm body of hers. Once she relieved me of my "tension", she brought a hot towel, cleaned me up and finished the rest of the massage. We made small talk while she was working on me. She says that she only works there Fri. and Sat. I tipped her .5 because her service was excellent. I will defenately go back.

Jon Jones

12-10-05, 14:10

Annie closed up shop and moved to Florida. Anyway that's what she told me when I saw her on her last day in business. It's an AA meeting place right next door so it fills up at 7 PM until about 10 PM.

Too bad, it's Orange County's loss and Florida's gain. I moved to South County so I hadn't seen her for a while but I was invited to her apartment when she was between jobs. That was the best.

Since I know she used to read this board, let me say to her "good luck and best wishes."

Member #3942

12-10-05, 23:58

Ill be in SJC on Sunday. Anything new down there? If you know of a provider that gets naked thats under 150 pounds let me know. Hey I use to go to 4 hands massage when I got them to wear skirts. I know thats changed. Any other good places I should visit?

Was thinking about seeing that black massage chick in costa mesa with the ad on CL. I never heard ANYONE talk about her.

14291 Euclid? Says grand opening. You know, they change ads and I can never tell if the place is new or old.

Ok, so where are the young 20 year old hot asian girls in South OC? I am thinking I need a young hottie to spice it up. Its because I went to Best Buy and saw like a dozen 20ish asians wearing low cut thin soft pants and they all looked hot. Well guess I need one now. Thanks for the info, send it now!!

Survey Says

12-13-05, 02:41

Was in the area on Saturday afternoon and stopped by. Someone posted earlier that it was closed. Nope, still opened. Saw the young Viet provider, forgot her name. Paid .40 for 1/2 hr. Good HJ finish, tipped .30

Cute young girl, always wears jeans, a solid 6+ and great finishing technique. Nothing more than HJ available but I was in the area and it was convenient. Said she's going to the homeland for vacation in 10 days and will be gone for 3 weeks. She's not certain if the MP will be open.

Jon Jones, I think you may have been referring to Ana, not Annie. I saw her on the side also. Great overall skills and great body!! Annie was more on the conservative side.

HolmesJr

12-13-05, 10:56

I was able to try Gina for the first time. She's very nice. I would give her a 7.5 overall.

I'll tell you what though. There was a real squealer in their last weekend. I heard some serious moaning going on. LOUD too!

This is my favorite spot.

Ric James Bitch

12-14-05, 00:49

Hey fellow mongers. I've been a longtime lurker leeching info so I figure that its time to start contributing some information of my own.

1. one of the locations on Romneya - Appears to be a hj factory, although more could possibly be on the menu after a few repeat visits.

2. Place on Yorba Linda in Placentia - Had about 3 average girls working. Girl let me touch her over the clothes but loudly told me no after trying to grab her ass. I tried to put her had on the dick but she refused. Massage was half assed. Needless to say, no tip for her. No return visit planned.

PM me for location details.

Pleasure Dude

12-15-05, 11:55

I was able to visit Gina for the first time early in the week. I was very surprised that it is actually only 10 minutes away from my work place. The service was pretty good and she offers great GFE. The only downside is she is a bit too chubby for my taste. I like girls that are a bit taller and thinner. Any recommendation?

Member #3942

12-15-05, 23:16

Damn spam, thats what it looks like. Nothing like big old print to put you to sleep. Sorry, but why post that here? I checked it twice and didnt see anything about a good place to go.

Seen that place on warner and main? Just wondering if anyone tired it. Still looking for a sweet young hottie asian. Hmmmmm guess I have to beg.

Number Cruncher

12-16-05, 00:48

James D - your post took up a whole goddam page practically. We all know that polititicians do not like prostitution. To tell you the truth I didn't even read the damn thing. Perhaps we should start a thread like 'Useful posts by JamesD,' which may have like 1 or 2 responses, compared to your 700+? posts. You talk a lot of bullshit and nonsense, and nothing else. Forgive any typos, as I'm a little drunk right now. As a side note, I was in Phoenix for business earlier today and got a little lost looking for the rental car place and had to make a U turn on 24th st. and the parking lot I pulled into was a massage parlor. I would have cruised in, but my flight was >1 hour away. Definitely the kind of parlor that hooks it up. Phoenix is ghetto - at least the part by the Sky Harbor Airport.

Yodaman

12-16-05, 14:17

Number Cruncher...et al
I am rid of James D's rambling time wasting posts. You can be too! Just add him to your ignore list and "pooF" he disappears. He can post all of his harassing crazy posts and you never see them. Its kinda like letting him talk to himself. jUST CLICK ON Private Messages and check out the menu on the left add him to your ignore list and he is gone!

This has been a public service announcment...brought to you by Mongers for a sane Forum!

Bad Santa

12-16-05, 17:39

This is how it would look like once you've placed someone on your ignore list.

James D 2004

12-16-05, 18:36

an erection killed charles ray george.

to be more exact, it was the desperation to satisfy an erection that killed the san onofre nuclear-plant engineer on jan. 29, 2001. that’s the view of daniel louis parra, a 37-year-old community-college student who owned an orange county escort service, and his top stripper, 29-year-old elizabeth nava of irvine.

you might think escorts hope to leave their customers happy, but an underwear-clad george was left dying in a pool of blood on his san clemente living-room floor. nava, a onetime dry-cleaning employee, ran from the scene without calling 911. parra walked away calmly, still carrying the heavy flashlight he used to crack george’s skull. later, defense lawyers portrayed parra as a "hero" for preventing the rape of his employee.

law-enforcement officers see the gruesome killing differently. deputy da michael f. murray concedes george was looking for female companionship in his final hours but says the craving that ended the 54-year-old man’s life had little to do with sex. according to murray, george died solely because of parra and nava’s greed.

"they wanted to satisfy their lust for money," the homicide prosecutor said. "they were taking money under the pretense of sex, and somebody got killed."

on dec. 8, the two defendants sat quietly as a somber jury of seven men and five women found them guilty of first-degree murder with special circumstances and a series of other felonies. although sentencing by superior court judge frank f. fasel isn’t scheduled until next month, neither parra nor nava will ever walk free again. the verdicts carry mandatory punishment of life in prison without the possibility of parole.

did the george murder, the five-week trial and subsequent convictions slow southern california’s escort/dancer/model/massage/stripper industry? vice cops say no; business is flourishing. there is apparently no time for reflection when telephone pagers constantly ring, unfulfilled sexual desires govern men and so much cash is at stake.

but the case did highlight—if only momentarily—the cat-and-mouse game of a seedy, often-deceitful underworld that advertises on the internet, in phone books and on the pages of the orange county register, los angeles times and oc weekly.

on that january night three years ago, the six-foot-two-inch, 180-pound george sat alone inside his one-bedroom san clemente apartment on the 3500 block of south el camino real. the divorcee logged onto his computer and found the website for oc exotics. one advertisement piqued his interest:

i’m gypsy. i’m a gorgeous latina with all the right curves. i’m sexy and exotic-looking. i specialize in erotic rubs and sensual fun. if you think you can handle this hot body, i’ll call you right back. i’m an independent escort.

police say "gypsy" is one of the aliases used by nava, an illegal alien with a criminal record for violence and whose real name is gracila cortes aguinaga. authorities say the mexican national had already been deported once but slipped back into california, where she has at least one child. she also used the names "lisa" and "sophia" during her stripper work.

when george dialed nava’s pager number, he had no idea he was making the last call of his life. thoughts of the woman undoubtedly filled his mind. he placed condoms and a bottle of lube on his bedroom nightstand. at about 8 p.m., neighbor ruschelle hull--who was outside on a balcony, smoking a cigarette--saw a latina go to george’s apartment. hull heard george say, "come on in!" the door closed.

there’s nothing illegal about a woman modeling, dancing or stripping for money. prostitution is, of course, against the law, but that doesn’t stop men from paying money for sex or women from offering their bodies for a fee. to entice potential clients, escort businesses craft advertising to sell sex or, at least, the allure of sex. their advertisements are worded carefully: "i love to go down on my knees and please." "complete stress release." "no strict rules, no boundaries." "tired of rip-offs? call me." "i need fast cash & ready 2 give u what u want." "hidden pleasures await you!" "i promise obscene things! "hardcore pleasure. non-stop. all night." "18 yr old sex crazed college student will do anything to stay in school." "take a load off." "let me be your ho! ho! ho!"

laugh if you will, but the messages work. parra--who regularly employed eight or nine strippers--spent approximately $4,000 per month on advertisements for his lol and ambrosia escort services. though an overwhelming majority of pictures in escort ads are fake and almost none of the girls are truly independent, a seemingly limitless stream of men--everyone from doctors and lawyers to engineers, software developers and unemployed freaks--responds. on the supply side, there is also never a shortage of would-be strippers. parra’s files contained hundreds of applications from an assortment of women.

the business is simple. when potential customers call, they talk first to the escort agency’s female "booker," who often pretends to be the model in a specific ad. this woman screens for **** callers, pranksters or police and makes legitimate customers feel comfortable by engaging in friendly small talk.

the booker also pumps potential customers for information. on internal "show information" sheets, she records the date of each call, customer name, phone number, address, directions, model sought, fee amount and "special information"-- which could note anything from a client’s airline flights or specific desires. if a deal is made, the booker usually sets an upfront fee of $150 ($70 for the girl; $80 for the escort service). that price covers a striptease of less than 30 minutes. men perceived to be wealthy could be charged $200 or more for the same dance. cops say strippers hit "the jackpot" for themselves when they lure additional fees from customers.

but the booker’s priority is securing reservations. a handwritten instruction manual found at parra’s bellflower office reveals the game plan to play on callers: "if he asks what you do for $150, say you can’t say too much over the phone, but say, ‘we will have a good time, lots of closeness, touching, getting naked. you’ll be satisfied.’"

contingency scenarios included:

"if you are comfortable with some people, you can say ‘full service.’ if he asks for a specific act, then there are three [options]: 1. hang up. 2. try to work around it. 3. book it; then hit and run"--escort parlance for tricking a customer into paying for sex but fleeing with his cash before delivering on the promise.

prosecutor murray believes the hit-and-run scam was standard operating procedure for parra and nava.

"their goal was to find potential people to rip off," said murray. "they thought they had a fool-proof plan because men wouldn’t feel comfortable calling police to complain. they were selling sex without the intention of engaging in sex, and then laughing at their victims."

the degree of frustration george felt when he discovered nava wasn’t a prostitute—or, perhaps, wasn’t one unless she received additional incentive--may remain a mystery forever. george can’t speak. nava isn’t talking.

but 25 minutes after entering the apartment, nava used her cell phone to call parra--who’d been waiting outside in his late-model, dark-colored hyundai. she’d later tell her lawyer that george wanted sex, she wanted out, and parra wanted to protect her. police believe another version is likely: george merely wanted his money back.

neighbor hull remembers she was working on her computer when she heard a "really loud thump" that shook the building. it was parra--a tall, heavyset man--trying to kick down george’s door. parra lawyer christian r. jensen said every "reasonable person" dealing with the potential rape of an employee would behave as his client did.

"charles george died at the hands of daniel parra," jensen told a jury. "we’re looking at the mindset of mr. parra on the evening of jan. 29. all the neighbors heard a commotion. they said there is something going on in there and it’s bad. what were mr. parra’s actions? he was using any means necessary to get in. three times, he tried to get in through the window. he is desperate. a witness says he’s going to call police, and mr. parra says, ‘go ahead.’ he’s not doing anything secretive. but this work can get dangerous. people can get hurt. people are drunk. people are on drugs and have weapons. it’s a violent situation. mr. parra eventually gets the door open."

daniel louis parra

there’s little disagreement that when the door opened, nava fled silently by parra on her way to the hyundai. parra then entered the apartment wielding his industrial-sized flashlight. moments later, a witness at the apartment complex saw a distraught george, dressed only in his underwear, trying to escape through his front door.

"parra was wearing a military-style jacket that night," said prosecutor murray. "and people saw the arms of someone wearing a military-style jacket grab mr. george, spin him around and pull him back inside the apartment. then there are a series of crashes and thuds."

terror likely consumed george’s final moments. evidence indicates he attempted to lock himself in his bedroom, but parra kicked the bedroom door down with such force he cracked it in half. when parra finished beating his customer with the six-pound flashlight, he casually walked out of the apartment, paused only to call an alarmed bystander "stupid," climbed into his hyundai and drove away with nava.

paramedics found a bloody george lying on his floor in a coma. he was taken to mission hospital regional medical center but never regained consciousness. he died the next day.

an autopsy determined george had been bludgeoned with a heavy object. the coroner found numerous defensive wounds on the victim’s arms and hands; bruises to his torso and rib cage; and lacerations to his lip, face, and all over the back and crown of his skull, which had been shattered. a massive brain hemorrhage caused death.

investigator bill vining, a 24-year-veteran of the orange county sheriff’s department (ocsd), is known among colleagues as a low-key yet tireless sleuth. he’s been assigned to murder cases for the past six years. vining says citizen tips commonly help solve murders. but there would be no tips in the george case. escort-industry employees don’t like to talk to homicide detectives.

when vining and fellow deputy dan salcedo arrived at the crime scene, they found "a real whodunit." neighbors who saw the killers didn’t know their identities, and the getaway hyundai was using fake paper license plates. detectives started from scratch.

"we interviewed the witnesses and determined that the victim had apparently hired a girl," said vining. "that’s about all we knew at first."

there were few additional clues except that the killers accidentally left two pieces of clothing near george’s body: an orange spaghetti-strap top and a black, full-face ski mask with only eye slits. both items carried dna, but whose?

some phone companies erase specific details of local calls after about 48 hours. vining and salcedo quickly obtained george’s records and discovered two calls on the evening of his death: one to an escort service called society x in torrance and another to a voice-mail pager belonging to a female named gypsy. the detectives then tied gypsy to the escort-service website they found on george’s home computer.

during the week after the killing, parra and nava fled north in their hyundai. they first told friends george attempted rape; later, they’d say george had succeeded. they were clueless that ocsd detectives executed 13 countywide search warrants in the case and were methodically closing in on not only their identities but also their soon-to-be hideout location.

a paper trail revealed parra’s half-chinese, half-latino heritage; his gulf war service in the air force; his studies at a cerritos community college; his divorce from a marriage that produced a son; his work as a bouncer at a los angeles bar; his 1997 arrest and acquittal on weapons charges; and his violence-prone escort operation run from an office on bellflower boulevard. in one instance, parra threatened and then sprayed a can of mace into the face of a disappointed customer who tried to get parra’s license-plate number.

the detectives also learned about parra’s relationship--at times, romantic--with nava and that he’d recently purchased a hyundai like the one used by the suspects in the george murder. parra listed his ex-wife, mary jane parra of shasta county, as a reference on his credit application at the huntington beach dealership. tipped by the ocsd, deputies in shasta county drove by the ex-wife’s trailer-park home and found the hyundai. the unwitting woman soon learned that police wanted her ex-husband and nava for murder.

"we surrounded the trailer with shasta county deputies and used a bullhorn to tell parra and nava to come out," said vining, who found $2,000 hidden in nava’s shoe during the arrest. "we surprised them, but they eventually came out and invoked their fifth amendment privileges."

parra and nava had lived as fugitives for only eight days.

deputy da murray is a west point graduate married to an fbi agent. he’s arguably the most hard-charging county prosecutor in orange county. in a courtroom, he impresses judges with his memory, captivates juries with his oratory and frightens murder defendants with his passion. he defeated famed defense attorney leslie abramson in a vietnamese-gang double-homicide trial earlier this year. murray had no sympathy for nava or parra, whom he mocked as low-life con artists willing to do anything for "the almighty dollar."

but murray had a problem. some prosecutors thought parra should be charged with second-degree murder and nava shouldn’t face any charges. after all, parra hadn’t premeditated murder and nava hadn’t even touched george. in fact, after her arrest in shasta county, another orange county prosecutor then supervising the case freed the stripper. the original prosecution theory was simple: nava responded to george’s call, danced, legitimately took her fee and fled with parra’s lethal if unnecessary assistance. using this scenario, nava wasn’t culpable and parra faced prison time with parole possibilities if convicted.

to murray, however, both parra and nava committed first-degree homicide. killing a person--even accidentally--while committing a serious crime such as robbery is felony murder under california law. using this statute wasn’t far-fetched. in their investigation, vining and salcedo discovered that a string of parra’s clients had been threatened, beaten and extorted over the years. the detectives and murray concluded the escort service was essentially a burglary/robbery operation in disguise.

"parra targeted his victims," said murray. "how do we know he intended to steal? it all goes back to his business practices. it’s a scam. it’s nothing but that."

detectives found evidence that:

*a parra employee accepted money for sex from a man, then said she needed to put the cash in her car for safekeeping but returned with parra, who displayed handcuffs and voiced threats before fleeing with the man’s money.

*two vietnamese brothers staying at an orange county hotel gave a parra stripper $200 for sex, and then watched as she quickly sped away in a truck driven by parra.

*a customer suspicious of a parra escort tried to cancel his appointment only to have a handcuff-toting parra arrive and threaten to call police if he didn’t pay additional sums he called a "cancellation fee."

*nava visited the orange county hotel room of an out-of-town businessman and got $150 for a dance and additional sums for promised sex before calling parra, who entered the room, broke the client’s jaw with a flashlight, emptied a can of pepper spray in his face and stole his laptop computer.

on murray’s orders, deputies re-arrested nava as part of a criminal enterprise that killed george.

the trial focused on a few questions: was nava’s stripper ad selling legal entertainment, illegal sex or simply the allure of intimacy? or was it a clever vehicle for thieves to enter houses, apartments and hotel rooms of unsuspecting men?

george douveas, deputy alternate defender for nava, wasn’t amused by law enforcement’s conclusions. douveas called murray’s case "novel and creative" and his logic "legal gymnastics." he asked: if parra and nava were crooks, as the prosecutor alleged, why didn’t they steal george’s wallet containing $312, his checkbook and a gold ring laying on a table?

murray had an answer. he claimed the defendants didn’t have time to steal on that occasion because they’d caused a commotion in the apartment complex by beating george to death. according to the prosecutor, burglary is committed when a person enters a dwelling merely with the intention to steal.

but douveas wouldn’t flinch. the usually soft-spoken defense attorney said murray’s theory of a criminal conspiracy by parra and nava was ridiculous. he noted that nava performed 150 legitimate stripper shows in six months and encountered trouble only twice because of "aggressive clients."

"the evidence indicates this wasn’t about greed," said douveas. "it’s about personal escorts, strippers. we’re not here to discuss morals. stripping is legal, and it’s a legitimate business protected by the constitution. they had an office. they paid rent. they paid taxes."

they also targeted horny men. according to douveas, everything from brewing companies to hamburger chains to automobile manufacturers use sex to sell products. he said escort businesses are like any other business. they want advertising to grab the attention of potential customers.

"if you can use sex to sell beer, you’re going to use sex to sell a stripper service," douveas told the jury. "but you’re selling sex appeal. you are not selling intercourse. it’s the illusion of sex. the ads are racy, provocative, and they’re also vague."

douveas and jensen, on parra’s behalf, argued george was either too horny or too foolish to understand he wasn’t paying nava for prostitution. "the ad said, ‘gorgeous latina. if you think you can handle this hot body, call,’" said douveas. "it was not an offer. it was an opinion. it’s so vague. . . . unfortunately, some men try to take advantage of the girls."

both defense lawyers said that customers "who wouldn’t take ‘no’ for an answer" are the reason strippers like nava must travel with powerful male guardians like parra.

"there is no sex, and yet mr. murray says that because the girls won’t commit a crime [prostitution], they’re committing another crime [stealing money from suckered customers]," said jensen. "it’s absurd. it defies logic. it doesn’t make sense. this is a modern society. these men are not vulnerable. they know it’s illegal to pay someone for sex. where’s the false promise? if the girls promised sex and didn’t deliver, there’s your false pretense. but that’s not what happened here. it’s all a word game."

it took the jury took less than two days to reach a verdict in early december. jurors found both defendants guilty of murder, conspiracy to commit burglary, two counts of burglary, two counts of robbery, assault with a deadly weapon, and two special-circumstance counts of murder in the commission of a burglary or robbery. a slouched parra said nothing as deputies led him out of the courtroom in handcuffs. tears filled nava’s eyes as a pained expression swept her face, but she also remained silent.

a male juror, who spoke to the weekly on condition of anonymity, believes he’ll long remember the arrogance of parra’s operation. "they had no conscience," he said. parra’s escorts routinely memorialized their scams with handwritten notes such as "guy wanted sex; took money and ran" or "short show. client angry. took money" or "drunk asshole. took guy’s $." in another document, nava wrote, "hit and run" and then drew a smiley face next to her words.

after the verdict, murray looked satisfied. "the key was that these two defendants engaged in felonious conduct," he said. "they schemed to steal from would-be johns, and now they will have to suffer the consequences of what they did--particularly to mr. george."

the consequences are bleak. parra and nava remain locked in the orange county jail. early next year, they’ll both be transported in chains to their new, permanent home: state prison.

there, nobody pays for sex.

rscottmoxley@ocweekly.com

Asiangreeklvr

12-16-05, 20:23

Thatr was it, that was the last straw. I'm sure the last one to put James on my ignore/snore list. No more of him. He must - MUST - be only posting to himself at this point. I refuse to translate anymore.

Roman

12-17-05, 19:47

Ill be in SJC on Sunday. Anything new down there? If you know of a provider that gets naked thats under 150 pounds let me know.

I live in SJC - the town is dry.

ROMAN

One Wing Low

12-18-05, 01:20

Hi Roman,

There are tons of very good looking girls in SJC and SFO in Craigslist. How does that work out?

I live in SJC - the town is dry.

ROMAN

PsyberZombie

12-18-05, 07:46

So among his many other failings , James·D·04 is a plagiarist , too

James = if yer gonna cite some·one else's work , the proper way to do it is to attribute it to the original author , like this =

http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=400214&postcount=323

Member #3942

12-18-05, 12:20

Went to a place on Orange and Magnolia. Yuck is all I can say. Nothing good looking and didnt even bother to try for extras. Also tried to find the new place on Beach. Its in an office building. 123 something like that but longer. Anyway the girl on the phone wouldnt give me the suite number. Her english sucked. Guess they wont be too busy until someone figures out what room they are in. Its a large 2-story building. Also went into a new place on damn whats the street name, um, Euclid I think. Its in a VC shopping center. Place on the outside is called jane 999 or something like that. Well I walked in and the lady behine the desk was a minus-7. So a girl comes out and talks to me. Thin, tall and has a little dog. She was wearing jeans and a low cut top. She says they have a shower and do full body massage. I passes only cause she was wearing jeans.

Niceverynice

12-18-05, 13:16

Time to contribute, first time poster.

Tried out the Euclid MP (D111) in the VC yesterday. Was greeted by old lady and some small dog the size of a rat. Nearly stepped on the fuck! Had a 30 minute session with mid 30's fair looking asian. Sorry, can't remember name. No fireworks to describe either. Towel remained on the entire time. She kept placing my hands on table when I attempted to roam. $40 for 30 min. Won't be back.

HolmesJr

12-18-05, 18:05

Hit this place up for the second time. No shower room, but decent girls.

Trtripod

12-19-05, 16:03

Hi,

I'm new to the forum, but not to the game.

Can anyone tell me if they are successful in something at the Euclid place? I knew them when they used to be Tanning 2000. But since then, all they do are "hot wraps". .4 for 30min. I can do that myself at home. I kept going back on several occasions. First time, nice looking female w nice endowments put the hot water bags on me. didnt return till time was up. Second time, they were still suspicious as ever. Older 40ish Latina put the bags on me. THis time, she asked if i wanted to turn over. She was not very good looking so i decided not to turn over. She told me to come back next time. Maybe if I come back when she's not around, and tell them her name, they will be a little more receptive? Very cautious bunch. Let me know if anyone has any luck.

HolmesJr

12-19-05, 20:30

Hit up Vicks today. Nice time as always. I even recieved a Christmas present. I thought it was really funny walking out with a wrapped Christmas present. It was a blanket. I think the girls are giving these things out today. Classic shit...

PEACE

Seymore Butts

12-19-05, 20:43

At first I was in the area and thought I would try Golden Sea Spa, mamasan said I would have to wait 30 minutes, so I left. I then hit 310 E orangethorpe, thought this might be good but turned out bad. Its called Aroma therapy I believe. Went in and saw a decent looking Asain and asked for 1/2 hour. She asked if I wanted a shower said yes and was led to the room and shown the shower. After returning I layed face down butt naked, girl came in, I think she said Mimi...immediately put the towel on, bad sign. Started a decent light massage, I tried to move the towel, no dice...she put it right back. Then on the flip tried to touch and immediately met with hand and asked to relax. After that went to LF body cnter and was happily rejuvinated by Shelly who I just saw at 1076. She said she works at both Tustin and LF. I was trying to figure out if they were connected in some way. Found info needed for 922, given a choice would you say Vics or 922?

Thanks for the help!

Member #3942

12-19-05, 23:29

Went to rose999 and I got nothing. Someone told me I would but I didint.

Preverted

12-20-05, 03:29

TurnedOn

12-20-05, 05:14

Last time I saw Kellie at Gold Body Tan, she gave me a business card for Rose. Said she was moving there. Lovelly body, pretty, and at GB her service was complete and very good.

davek

12-20-05, 18:21

HawaiiGuy

12-21-05, 01:14

Got stellar service again today at Vicks around lunch time.

As I was leaving though, I saw a white cop car through the tinted glass of the fourier. The officer (brown shirt I think) was slowly driving by Vic's trying to look into the windows. I just stood there behiing the tinted glass hoping that he didn't want to come in. I waited a while after he was out of sight and bolted to my car. Did not see him anymore on my way out.

I would hope that Vicks is safe, as it is one of the most exclusive clubs to get into. The mama san is a tough nut to crack sometimes, even if you have been there before!Be very careful, especially during daylight hours and most especially on Saturdays. Since this is the only "business" in that mall open on Saturdays and since it is at the far end, LE will sometimes just sit back there. I was once stopped by the Los Alamitos PD on a Saturday afternoon. I made up some story about looking for a Xerox place; thank goodness, I remembered there was one in that area. They did, however, take my license plate and driver license numbers down.

Now, I am very careful; I even have had some copying done by that copying place. I keep that handy in case I am ever stopped again.

Be safe.

Seymore Butts

12-21-05, 18:36

Granted I am a total newbie here, and I can understand cautiousness because you don't know me from adam, but maybe if I PM just say you are not comfortable giving the info to me, rather than ignoring me completely, crap, I am not James! :) . If you ask to PM for 411 then at least respond.

Sorry for the rant.

Thanks,

Seymore

Member #3942

12-22-05, 23:03

Anything new out there? Someone tell me something good. Was looking for a new place with some young'ns.

So I went to Broadway. Yeah the place has been redone and is nice and blue inside. They even fixed the shower. 4 girls working. Of course I took Kelly. She is always hot. Big boobs, tight jeans with a tiny butt. Nice long hair and long nails. Yeah I dont really like jeans but on her I don't care. She gave me a great massage plus a hand. I even massaged her for 15 minutes. Guess she likes it. She layed right down on the table. No, she did'nt take anything off but you never know in the future. Highly unlikely though. I just think shes hot so I dont mind all the little things.

Also went to (this is in code...HA) the place on Rom Dr. with the free table splash. I had Kasey who was pretty hot for a 30ish chinese. She was at my head and I heard her breathing hard. So I rubbed more on her ass while I slipped my hand some between her legs. She breathed harder, and then started pressing her body into my head. So I pulled her more and moved her around some. Her breathing got out of controll. She moved to my side where I continued the light rub on her sexy legs. Ok, to make it short, I got her pants off and she lifted her leg over my head. She said she couldnt take it anymore. She went ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhh. Hmm, guess she was drunk? I dont know but it was good. A little pricey but its worth trying once or twice. The other places on the same street I dont like since the women are kind of fugly.
Also went to the new place on harbor and the 91. Upstairs in a med building. Ok looking girl. I passed since she was too thin and had on jeans. Theres another place on Euclid just north of the 22. Its upstairs on the corner. Would like the lowdown on that place. She said they had 3 women. One is white with 2 asians. Didnt like the one I was talking too and couldnt see any others so I didnt partake there either.

I think if you like good looking with not much in the extra department, well Kelly is hot. Broadway and 17th. Thats close enough. She just makes me shake. Helps that shes kinda young and smells good too.

Thats it, im tired plus going out of town. Hey if any of you guys try a new place. Try to tell the truth about it. Im not kidding. I hate going to someplace and they are all 50+ . Yuck!!

Vanilla Shake

12-23-05, 19:52

Can't recall what we called this place. Suite A maybe? It's a left off of Main. At night, you can see the neon "Open" sign.

Slow night and got in right away. Medium massage followed by CBJ, DATY, and mish. Cute girl "anna", I think. Tall, slender, landing strip and fake boobs. Young looking, too. Lot's of heavy breathing and menthal in my face. Turned me off and went soft, so I had her straddle my face and finish me off with oil. Great tiny little ass and pussy that tasted like listerine.

Now I remember what I stopped doing this sort of thing. Next time I'll save my money and jerk off at home or actualy do it with Mrs. Shake for a change.

50/70 with a sad face and "Merry Christmas, Baby"

Member #3942

12-26-05, 11:51

Went to Lake Forest Body center about a week ago and saw Alice who I heard good things obout. Well I was disappointed, she did let me play with her tits, but keep covering me up avoiding any touch. All I got from her was what seemed like a reluctant HJ which she made sure she keep me covered with the small cover up napkin or whatever it is. ANyway afterwards said she enjoyed seeing me and come back again. I think not. The recommendation I was given led me to expect alot me.

Alice did a great job for me. Maybe her lips were tired? I dont know. Always you know what from her. Guess it was an off day or something. Her skin is kind of flaky anyway. Not smooth has plenty of rough spots. Better luck next time?

Still waiting for a new place report. Was up north where there is nothing. But on the way I did stop in the Nard and had some fun. There are some ads in the OCweekly. One place is on alicia pkw but I guess its not open yet. Havnt been to anyplace where the girls wear shorts for a while. They all wear jeans now? I seen lots with the scrubs or sweats. Guess its too cold or I need to look more.

davek

12-27-05, 02:42

Alice did a great job for me. Maybe her lips were tired? I dont know. Always you know what from her. Guess it was an off day or something. Her skin is kind of flaky anyway. Not smooth has plenty of rough spots. Better luck next time?

Still waiting for a new place report. Was up north where there is nothing. But on the way I did stop in the Nard and had some fun. There are some ads in the OCweekly. One place is on alicia pkw but I guess its not open yet. Havnt been to anyplace where the girls wear shorts for a while. They all wear jeans now? I seen lots with the scrubs or sweats. Guess its too cold or I need to look more.

Well thanks for the advice anyway. Maybe Alice was being coy since it was the first time she saw me. But of course as you mentioned there is better than her if you have to work on it though multiple visits. As mentioned the only place I go to nowadays is Oetega and its getting old as theres no one great (as least for me since I perfer white). I heard theres alot of pretty good asians there that will pretty much do anything from Lauri who I usually see but don't have names. Do you know anything about the place you can see around Lake Forest Blvd from the freeway, I've been thinking about looking into that one.

Flu Shot

12-27-05, 03:01

Ortega - got shut out for the first time in six years. Must have thought I was LE. Used to a good massage and release. Very disappointing. Don't ask for Sabrina.

4 hands - strong Chinese lady who thinks a plaid shirt with striped pants is a good look. Used to get the best ball massage on stomach at this place. Now nothing. Don't bother.

PCH Ac - lots of new blood. None of it good. Sonia is the best, but don't expect much.

PHC therapy - lots of turnover. Jennifer was the best, but off to jail or China or somewhere. The rest, hit or miss.

Dana Health - new ownership, same old hags. Avoid.

Stress - do it yourself, unless you've been there before.

Capo - WTF. Hot chicks but nothing. Save your money.

SCl. - decent massage, good Hj, good value $50 +

LeJard (CM) - Ria, good job, bad attitude; only go if you can stand lots of garlic.

PM if you want to exchange info in so oc.

Bbbjlvr

12-27-05, 11:23

Got off work early on Thursday (12/22), so decided to get a little relaxation. Cruised over to Vick's to see if I could see Angel. This was my third time to Vick's, and thought it might be the charm. I was wrong.

Asked for Angel, was led to back room. Mms took house fee. A thick girl walked in, and I said "Angel?" She said no, and backed out. I got undressed, showered and layed down (with no towel). Angel came in. Late 20's, small b-cups, kind of cute, a little baby-fat. She started the massage and asked a lot of questions. At first I didn't think anything of it because they were the typical questions like had I been there before, when, with who. Then she started asking me for physical descriptions of the girls I had been with. It started getting really irritating. Then I realized that the massage was pretty good, and that the relaxation part was heading down the wrong path. She wouldn't let me touch her, and she was wearing underwear.

On the flip, she covered me with a towel. When I moved it, she moved it back. When the massage ended, she asked if there was anything else I wanted massaged. I moved the towel and pointed. She said no, we don't do that here. I insisted, and she made the hand gesture for $ by rubbing her finger and thumb together. I knew this was a bad sign because they had never asked up front before. I handed her 0.8, she left the room, and was gone for what seemed like hours. At that point I was getting nervous about a sting. But she returned. I got CBJ, no DATY, no touching tits, no licking tits, no kissing, mish, and refusal for other positions. Then she rushed me to finish. Not very relaxing. Not a very good experience, and probably will not return to Vick's.

To her defense, after all was said and done, she explained that she had never seen me and thought I might be LE. She said that since I was in shape with short hair, it was suspicious.

At any rate, there is better service to be had elsewhere, so like I said, I probably won't return.

Fe Maiden

12-27-05, 12:41

Also went to (this is in code...HA) the place on Rom Dr. with the free table splash. I had Kasey who was pretty hot for a 30ish chinese. She was at my head and I heard her breathing hard. So I rubbed more on her ass while I slipped my hand some between her legs. She breathed harder, and then started pressing her body into my head. So I pulled her more and moved her around some. Her breathing got out of controll. She moved to my side where I continued the light rub on her sexy legs. Ok, to make it short, I got her pants off and she lifted her leg over my head. She said she couldnt take it anymore. She went ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhh. Hmm, guess she was drunk? I dont know but it was good. A little pricey but its worth trying once or twice.
Sounds like fun! Could you please PM me some more info on this place? I frequent 301 but its getting "boring."

Herb Surfs

12-28-05, 16:07

Bored at the office yesterday so I started purusing CL, Exotic section.

Came across a non-photo ad for a massuse in a private apartment in Costa Mesa:Mary 1/2 black, 1/2 white. $100.00 for an hour. I've seen her ad in the theraputic section of CL but never in the Exotic. So I thought WTF.

Called her, set up a time and I went to a dumpy apartment behind El Pollo Loco at Bristol and Baker in CM.

Went inside, there was a thug in the living room, she said don't worry he's my brother, he does massage in the other bedroom...... okay..a gay thug.

Went into a dumpy bedroom where the bed was pushed against a window and a massage table was set up in an akward place. She said go ahead and take all of your clothes off; which was a good sign. She stood there while I undressed.

She was alright looking in the face, body seemed okay, she was wearing a baggy top, jeans made her ass look good.

Made lots of conversation, she seemed cool, but kept answering the phone as it kept ringing every 3 minutes.....thanks fellow mongers. One of the calls was "her brother" in the other room wanting to know if everything was cool. Said she had a guy try to kill her recently so he sticks around while she works. Sweet, some big thug in the next room while I'm getting a "relaxing massage".

Anyway, massage was average, then on the flip, she asks me if I want her to take her top off, and of course I say yes. She says that will be $80 more. I agreed, she goes over and gets my pants off of the bed and makes me give her the money right then. So by now of course the romance is gone.

Her top is now off, nice little titties, but her stomach was discusting. Stretched like she gave birth to an elephant, not attractive and definately not worth the extra $80.

She then touched my cock and asks if I'm a cop???? A little ass backwards, but whatever, I say no she starts the HJ. Good hj while I was breastfeeding.

I blew she used a little kleenex to wipe me off, not enough kleenex by the way.

I got dressed, we said our pleasantries and I left. I passed her next appointment on the sidewalk on the way to my car. Thats always comfortable.

Summation: Not a real pleasant experience with the dude in the next room and a very expensive handjob ($180) as well. I won't be going back, nor would I recommend her.

I'm going to stick with the MP's where they have hot towels in crock pots!!!

Be safe.

City Slicker

12-28-05, 20:11

That must have been a weird experience but I would have bail if I were you. You never know if the are setting up to rob while you were naked! Be careful next time caused something similiar happened to me while I was butt naked.

Slicker.

Bored at the office yesterday so I started purusing CL, Exotic section.

Came across a non-photo ad for a massuse in a private apartment in Costa Mesa:Mary 1/2 black, 1/2 white. $100.00 for an hour. I've seen her ad in the theraputic section of CL but never in the Exotic. So I thought WTF.

Called her, set up a time and I went to a dumpy apartment behind El Pollo Loco at Bristol and Baker in CM.

Went inside, there was a dude/thug in the living room, she said don't worry he's my brother, he does massage in the other bedroom...... okay..a gay thug.

Went into a dumpy bedroom where the bed was pushed against a window and a massage table was set up in an akward place. She said go ahead and take all of your clothes off; which was a good sign. She stood there while I undressed.

She was alright looking in the face, body seemed okay, she was wearing a baggy top, but jeans made her ass look good.

Made lots of conversation, she seemed cool, but kept answering the phone as it kept ringing every 3 minutes.....thanks fellow mongers. One of the calls was "her brother" in the other room wanting to know if evertything was cool. Said she had a guy try to kill her recently so he sticks around while she works. Sweet, some big thug in the next room while I'm getting a relaxing massage.

Anyway, massage was average, then on the flip, she asks me if I want her to take her top off, and of course I say yes. She says that will be $80 more. I agreed, she goes over and gets my pants off of the bed and makes me give her the money then. So by now of course the romance is gone.

Tops now off, nice little titties, but her stomach was discusting. Stretched like she gave birth to an elephant, not attractive and definately not worth $80.

She then touched my cock and asks if I'm a cop???? A little ass backwards, but whatever, I say no she starts the HJ. Good hj while I was breastfeeding.

I blew she used a little kleenex to wipe me off, not enough kleenex by the way.

I got dressed, we said our pleasantries and I left. I passed her next appointment on the sidewalk on the way to my car. Thats always comfortable.

Summation: Not a real pleasant experience with the dude in the next room and a very expensive handjob as well. I won't be going back, nor would I recommend her.

I'm going to stick with the MP's where they have hot towels in crock pots!!!

Be safe.

Roman

12-29-05, 02:20

Hi Roman,

There are tons of very good looking girls in SJC and SFO in Craigslist. How does that work out?

One Wing - interesting. Not sure. I've heard most of the girls on
Craigslist are Robs. I could believe that in more urban areas but
not in SJC which is about as exciting as a tourist trap. Thanks
for the tip. I'll check around and write back if I find anything.

Anyone ever done anything with adult friend finder???

ROMAN

PotShot

12-29-05, 09:47

AFF is a scam. I have signed up for their free membership several times just to surf their porn archives for free and have gotten the same old bait emails from the same dinks over and over again even though I created different profiles each time. You can't respond to any unless you are a paid member. Which I never was.

Most of the female profiles are bogus with pics scarfed off the web. As a perveyor of porn I have gotten pretty good at identifying pics I've seen elsewhere. Save your money. I have never heard of anyone scoring off that site but I have heard of a lot of guys getting jerked around by it.

Happy Hoin!

Herb Surfs

12-29-05, 12:12

Slicker:

You are absolutely right.

I thought that because I was in a big apartment complex that it was safe but in retrospect; I was thinking with the wrong head.

Herb

That must have been a weird experience but I would have bail if I were you. You never know if the are setting up to rob while you were naked! Be careful next time caused something similiar happened to me while I was butt naked.

Slicker.

Member #3942

12-30-05, 11:10

So i called this new place in the outcall section of the OCregister. It says free table shower and massage but its 85$. She gives me an adress of 4500 campus dr. Well she calles me back a few hours before the time and says she hasnt got the lease for the place. It was delayed. So she says she can come over. Well I have 2 roomates so thats out. Anyway was interesting that she woould come over. Have no idea what she looks like or anything. I do know she likes to talk a lot. Says she should have the lease all taken care of today. Wonder if its any good.

You know the places in SJC? There are 2 that are related to each other. One is next to a resturant and the other is down the street upstairs. Well they swap girls all week and this time I went to the resturant one again. I had this older lady Tina. She wore a dress and was pretty good. Fair massage with touching and well there is more then normal. I also saw Vivian when I walked in there. Shes short and really kinda cute. I had her before lots of times. But never had more then HJ from her. If anyone knows or has had more from Viv let me know. She looked really good when I was in there. She never wears a dress or I would have her all the time.

Marvelous88

12-30-05, 16:38

[QUOTE=Cash Value]So i called this new place in the outcall section of the OCregister. It says free table shower and massage but its 85$. She gives me an adress of 4500 campus dr. Well she calles me back a few hours before the time and says she hasnt got the lease for the place.

So Cash what Nationality do you think this RA is?
That address seems like there's no commercial buildings around there but I don't know the area that well, or do you think this is at a private apartment?

I haven't been to the places in SJC you mention hoever the few times I've been to OT in SJC I've always enjoyed it and the varied talents down there, and I like the place overall . It's clean and ya gotta love those heated tables!

Marvelous

Jeff 71

12-31-05, 01:17

4500 Campus Drive in Newport Beach is the southeast edge of SNA airport. Classic location for MP. 4500 Campus Drive in Irvine is residential. Not likely that she meant Irvine. Just my $.02.

OC Fun Seeker

12-31-05, 03:40

Strange thing today. I went by 1076 at around 4 in the afternoon and the door was locked.

Does anybody know if something happened?

Or did they just close up early for the holiday?

Just wondering

OC Fun Seeker

Member #3942

12-31-05, 11:19

So Cash what Nationality do you think this RA is?
That address seems like there's no commercial buildings around there but I don't know the area that well, or do you think this is at a private apartment?

I haven't been to the places in SJC you mention hoever the few times I've been to OT in SJC I've always enjoyed it and the varied talents down there, and I like the place overall . It's clean and ya gotta love those heated tables!

Marvelous

I know shes asian, since she called me friday to see if I wanted to see her on beach blvd in costa mesa. Dont know the exact adress, I didnt ask since it was a message.

SJC Yes the heated tables are great. Just that place needs a photo line-up of all the women. I dont know half of them.

Still looking for that hot asian with an ass that drop her clothes....oh and cooks too.

Hey has anyone been to any of the places in Dana Point lately?? Nothing special just wondering if any changed or if there are any girls there I should see.
Theres also that place thats on brookhurst way close to the beach. Ad says accu and massage. Its in the paper. Its in a weird spot. I think Ive been down there before and there like a 7-11 a big apartment building and then some little med buildings. Guess someone there wants some extra cash.
Went and saw kelly on broadway cause I needed to smile. She was very hot of course. Thats all I need to say. im not telling anyone to go there. I just like her.
Happy New Year guys and try not to have sex with an old lady.