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The thing is we might gain one bar but lose up to 3 bars down the road. Chill and Twlight are sitting on a demolition lot and could go anytime soon. Heard a rumor the Veitmanese are looking for a place to stay for the soon to be demo Misty and Cashe. They are eyeing to retake the Ashley lot to put a V-bar there as it once was.Isn't Ashley space is planned for condo development Ikaika was PO about of not getting his cut.
WarriorForLife
01-21-19, 22:13
Yes, Ashley lot is planned for development down the road, once Ashley lease expiring shortly. Who knows what the lot owner going to do? Leave the lot vacant pending building permit approval or rent it on a short term lease to make a few bucks.
Isn't Ashley space is planned for condo development Ikaika was PO about of not getting his cut.
Stay away from that skinny Julia, she will try to push drinks to everyone who works there including that gay DJ who will put your songs back so his friends get to play theirs first. Julia tried to get me to buy him a drink but told her I don't like him for pushing my songs under the pile. I even told her if she wants that little piss shot of shoju, she can go buy it herself, so I forced her to drink that whole bottle of 55 including the other female bartendar who wanted that shoju drink.
I only went there to company my friend who drank with big tits mama Jesse. But I'm not going back there again to get hustled by that Julia.I always thought the Good Luck Drink is the most stupid KB creation, it means I am giving you $20 bucks and there is no chance whatsoever as to any play, conversation, nothing. I know us LVB's are stupid, but your gay boy story takes the cake! ROTFL.
Haha, that is funny, don't let old hag LeeAnn fool you, she is a leecher, telling lonely old guys buy her expansive stuffs, all they get is some bogus promises in return. Big time ROB. She has 3 sugar daddy take care her financial needs. A hell of a smart woman.
My honey Fox is entertaining in Kahili, go see her instead, she will give you all for your money and some. Super dancer melt your heart!I see a lot of similarities with Lee Ann and your Fox. Both have the big breasts and relatively smart with not bad service. Less than 10 years apart in age as well. Lee Ann is a grandma and the Fox will be one sometime in the near future. What is difference is lee Ann doesn't go to the gym, but your Fox works out every day. You probably won't see Lee Ann drunk, but when the Fox drinks, she gets drunk and then she needs a ride home. I also like the top notch professional experience that the Fox brings. Her room salon experience shines through and is very refreshing compared to the poor service other bar girls have that are only interested in your money and their cell phones.
Haha, that is funny, don't let old hag LeeAnn fool you, she is a leecher, telling lonely old guys buy her expansive stuffs, all they get is some bogus promises in return. Big time ROB. She has 3 sugar daddy take care her financial needs. A hell of a smart woman.
My honey Fox is entertaining in Kahili, go see her instead, she will give you all for your money and some. Super dancer melt your heart!I see a lot of similarities with Lee Ann and your Fox. Both have the big breasts and relatively smart with not bad service. Less than 10 years apart in age as well. Lee Ann is a grandma and the Fox will be one sometime in the near future. What is difference is lee Ann doesn't go to the gym, but your Fox works out every day. You probably won't see Lee Ann drunk, but when the Fox drinks, she gets drunk and then she needs a ride home. I also like the top notch professional experience that the Fox brings. Her room salon experience shines through and is very refreshing compared to the poor service other bar girls have that are only interested in your money and their cell phones.
WarriorForLife
01-29-19, 16:22
Very good comparison, Leeann can't drink under her doctor order, but occasionally she will have a few drinks. Poor health, aging and no gym take a toll out of her body. Pushing sixty, she probably going to retire soon and leech on to one of her sugar daddies.
Honey Fox will continue to roll and doing her things, avid body builder and spend lots of her time at the gym, her heavy drinking does not show a bit on her hard rock well maintained.
Boby. Super fun to be with, never had a doubt moment with her.
I see a lot of similarities with Lee Ann and your Fox. Both have the big breasts and relatively smart with not bad service. Less than 10 years apart in age as well. Lee Ann is a grandma and the Fox will be one sometime in the near future. What is difference is lee Ann doesn't go to the gym, but your Fox works out every day. You probably won't see Lee Ann drunk, but when the Fox drinks, she gets drunk and then she needs a ride home. I also like the top notch professional experience that the Fox brings. Her room salon experience shines through and is very refreshing compared to the poor service other bar girls have that are only interested in your money and their cell phones.
Anyone remember this one bar girl, she had a sight impairment but one smoking hot body. Softest punani and skin. Costed me $$$ and some drinks but well worth it. BBFS CIP.
Secret Agent
01-30-19, 13:33
Anyone remember this one bar girl, she had a sight impairment but one smoking hot body. Softest punani and skin. Costed me $$$ and some drinks but well worth it. BBFS CIP.Sounds like Danbi. I don't know where she is now.
BeaverLiquor
01-30-19, 14:21
Danbi is in kalihi at 904.
She is above average pretty, dresses nice, smells nice, and is good at working her charms on customers. I didn't sit with her, that is my observation from the bar and when she walked past me.
I thought she might be doubly expensive because she has a guide / handler leading her everywhere, so I figured you'd have to buy drinks for both her and the handler, but the handler went off on her own when danbi had a customer. The handler was pretty nice looking and nicely dressed and smelled nice too though.
I usually try to stay away from the perfumy ones. I can't go home with traces of perfume on me.
Sounds like Danbi. I don't know where she is now.
WarriorForLife
01-30-19, 21:32
Actually she has a young pretty assistant now compare to the old grandma before. I bought her young partner a few drinks and would not mind to do a threesome one day.
Anyone remember this one bar girl, she had a sight impairment but one smoking hot body. Softest punani and skin. Costed me $$$ and some drinks but well worth it. BBFS CIP.
Opened my KB Christmas present and it is as empty as the KBs. The pretty wrapping and ribbon were there, but the gift was not; wonder what happened? Could it be that the gift is as nonexistent as KB customer service and KBG appreciation? Never mind because with only the outside being pretty and the inside empty, it's just another meaningless day "For Whom The Bell Tolls. " The KBs and KBGs just don't get it ("It Tolls For Thee") and that's why business slow and more K customers taking over, chasing the locals away (ala Liberty House). Happy Holidays, everybody.The Complete lack of customer service at the kbars is simply amazing. When I visit them, the mostly older kgirls are too busy with their phones or at the game machine feeding it the dollars. Seems like a young girl is now in her 40's and is so much the princess with a matching personality. I don't know when I saw a "young" 30 something bar girl. Oh, right Nicole at Camelot. To be so honored by her presence. I guess there are still some around.
If you pay a visit at one of the Korean AMPs, you will get a completely different experience. The kgirls there remind me of how the KBGs of years gone by. Now a days, I would rather Talk story with the AMP kgirls and leave the kbg playing with their phones.
To me, the AMP kgirls set the standard for the kbgs to reach.
Danbi is in kalihi at 904.
She is above average pretty, dresses nice, smells nice, and is good at working her charms on customers. I didn't sit with her, that is my observation from the bar and when she walked past me.
I thought she might be doubly expensive because she has a guide / handler leading her everywhere, so I figured you'd have to buy drinks for both her and the handler, but the handler went off on her own when danbi had a customer. The handler was pretty nice looking and nicely dressed and smelled nice too though.
I usually try to stay away from the perfumy ones. I can't go home with traces of perfume on me.Yes! It is Danbi, thanks for the info.
The Complete lack of customer service at the kbars is simply amazing. When I visit them, the mostly older kgirls are too busy with their phones or at the game machine feeding it the dollars. Seems like a young girl is now in her 40's and is so much the princess with a matching personality. I don't know when I saw a "young" 30 something bar girl. Oh, right Nicole at Camelot. To be so honored by her presence. I guess there are still some around.
If you pay a visit at one of the Korean AMPs, you will get a completely different experience. The kgirls there remind me of how the KBGs of years gone by. Now a days, I would rather Talk story with the AMP kgirls and leave the kbg playing with their phones.
To me, the AMP kgirls set the standard for the kbgs to reach.Don't get me wrong, there are still a few kb girls that are still providing good customer service, but are very hard to find. I know maybe a half dozen on all of Oahu, Warriorforlife's Fox being one, but she is pushing 50 now. Many of the AMP kgirls give her a run for her money since an AMP kgirl will show you great time and will only ask for $140-150 of your money. Not bad compared to the kB girls. What will 10 drinks get you with a kB girl? Don't get me wrong, there are some kB girls that are very play friendly such as Jae from spotlite, more of them into the let's just be friends mentally if they are not infected with the Korean princess syndrome. When you get past the kB girls B. S, you find that most of them are poor with just few dollars saved up. I guess easy come, easy go.
WarriorForLife
02-01-19, 20:04
There only one legendary Fox out there. BGs these days only interested in their phone or your wallet. Reason why people still go to KBs is they think they can find romance, but chances are they will strike out more often than not. BGs love to throw curve and off speed ball.
Don't get me wrong, there are still a few kb girls that are still providing good customer service, but are very hard to find. I know maybe a half dozen on all of Oahu, Warriorforlife's Fox being one, but she is pushing 50 now. Many of the AMP kgirls give her a run for her money since an AMP kgirl will show you great time and will only ask for $140-150 of your money. Not bad compared to the kB girls. What will 10 drinks get you with a kB girl? Don't get me wrong, there are some kB girls that are very play friendly such as Jae from spotlite, more of them into the let's just be friends mentally if they are not infected with the Korean princess syndrome. When you get past the kB girls B. S, you find that most of them are poor with just few dollars saved up. I guess easy come, easy go.
WarriorForLife
02-04-19, 01:32
This is suppose to be the slowest period for the KBs, people got to payoff their football betting debts, taxes and truck load of new year bills. Things will not get better for a while. With the dismal services at the bars. Bad news.
Closed today and tomorrow. Moving in new furniture. Parking lot is full of junk.
New owner?
WarriorForLife
02-06-19, 17:26
A lot of questions, why any owners would spend more money on this place unless for a long term lease.
The lot is on the development list, no one know what the lot owner would do. Heard many rumors but no one know for sure.
Closed today and tomorrow. Moving in new furniture. Parking lot is full of junk.
New owner?
Old Island Boy
02-07-19, 05:30
Closed today and tomorrow. Moving in new furniture. Parking lot is full of junk.
New owner?Are they using it for a TV shoot?
Lualualei808
02-07-19, 18:14
A mysterious bar is apparently in the works for koreamoku area. Its supposed to be a pretty big place too, big enough where if things pan out the power will shift back and perhaps decide the fate of the industry for the future. We should be getting word or indications in the next month or so whether it's going to happen.FWIW thru the KBG wireless, Mimi mama will be moving to the Chill fka Club Summitt some time next month. Then again it was rumored that she was also going to open a KB on the ninth island.
WarriorForLife
02-07-19, 23:37
Yeah. Saw some bar girls actress in heels and short dress coming out of there, mighty fine.
Are they using it for a TV shoot?.
Old Island Boy
02-08-19, 06:41
Yeah. Saw some bar girls actress in heels and short dress coming out of there, mighty fine.
.It was Magnum PI, I heard they were looking for a club to shoot in. The actress bar girls are a whole lot YOUNGER and better looking than the real thing.
WarriorForLife
02-08-19, 21:31
They should have casting some of the grandmas there to make it more realistically.
It was Magnum PI, I heard they were looking for a club to shoot in. The actress bar girls are a whole lot YOUNGER and better looking than the real thing..
Old Island Boy
02-09-19, 07:01
They should have casting some of the grandmas there to make it more realistically.
.LOL! How true!
Hawaii Raven
02-09-19, 09:58
It was Magnum PI, I heard they were looking for a club to shoot in. The actress bar girls are a whole lot YOUNGER and better looking than the real thing.Funny thing, I actually know one of the young girls cast to play a bar girl for this shoot and in her former life before acting, she actually was a bar girl on Maui.
FWIW thru the KBG wireless, Mimi mama will be moving to the Chill fka Club Summitt some time next month. Then again it was rumored that she was also going to open a KB on the ninth island.Ah, that sounds just about right. As far as the Vegas things goes, well I know she recently went on a business trip. Basically it sounded like it had to deal with business here that she about to conduct.
WarriorForLife
02-11-19, 16:43
Ashley is back to normal, young bar girls actress went home. Old grandmas is back at work.
Funny thing, I actually know one of the young girls cast to play a bar girl for this shoot and in her former life before acting, she actually was a bar girl on Maui.
WarriorForLife
02-13-19, 20:00
Door closed, lights out on Monday night. TC mama finally baited out?
Door closed, lights out on Monday night. TC mama finally baited out?I happened to see her at Green Tee this past Saturday night. Didn't inquire whether if she was working or just drinking, although it did appear she was working.
WarriorForLife
02-14-19, 19:23
Heard one of the mamas Tamie baited out of the other mama at GT.
Maybe TC was there try to team up with the other mama? Gave TC credit stick around so long.
Went through many bar names changes, from KBs to sport bar and local bar style till the end of her lease.
I happened to see her at Green Tee this past Saturday night. Didn't inquire whether if she was working or just drinking, although it did appear she was working.
Heard one of the mamas Tamie baited out of the other mama at GT.
Maybe TC was there try to team up with the other mama? Gave TC credit stick around so long.
Went through many bar names changes, from KBs to sport bar and local bar style till the end of her lease.What do you mean by "baited out"? TC has been around for a long time like many others, but she has made a lot of mistakes which cost her money.
Xclusive halting the early, M-F, shift; early places include (for now) Di's, Hot Spot. Lotus bartending crew Jennifer and Mae: Mae is nihongo speaking, 55-60 yo, L=6, massage skills, good temperament, medium build, with huge tits. Jennifer is just pushy and huge. Hope that the new opening at the old Chill venue will provide the needed Kapiolani KB spark; as long as they don't bring back the KB Kiss-of-Death (TC), it should work out OK. Wherever that KoD goes, it is a disaster (sorry, fans of TC), so good riddance.
KBGs have never seen business this slow since the recession of '84-86; they have remarked that they only sit down for long periods and play games on their devices to pass the time. Anybody heard about the proposed price increases for beer, wine, and liquor? Now that's the real KoD.
Lualualei808
02-19-19, 19:47
Hope that the new opening at the old Chill venue will provide the needed Kapiolani KB spark; as long as they don't bring back the KB Kiss-of-Death (TC), it should work out OK. Wherever that KoD goes, it is a disaster (sorry, fans of TC), so good riddance.
LOL! LMFAO!! Good one Mits.
BeaverLiquor
02-20-19, 14:31
Mahalo brother mits for the info.
So I went to lotus Monday afternoon. Mae was nice, and friendly. She said she only just started working bar. I asked what kind work she did before. She said housewife. Yup she has nice body / chichis, but not sure about how playful she'll get since she is across the bar. I didn't offer a drink, and to her credit she didn't ask. I don't like to buy / offer a drink unless I'm going to get something out of it, whether it's food or potential play. Mae offered food (house pupus), but I wasn't looking for food if you know what I mean, hehe! Jennifer (and yup she is pushy and huge) stepped in and started talking to Mae in korean. I got the feeling that jenn sized me up as a freeloading / no tip guy (for the record, I'm not). So it seemed the offer of house pupus was off, and Jenn told Mae. To give me the pay food menu. I declined.
After I was there for a while, jenn softened, and practically forced house pupus on me (which was very good BTW). But I kinda didn't want because I was really thinking of going to check someplace else out.
Any way jenn brought the food, so now I feel obligated, so I was deciding if I was going to buy a drink, and who to buy it for (since mae was serving me the whole time, and jenn pulled the menu thing), or just leave a good tip for the food. I should have opted for the big tip.
I offered jenn the drink since she was the one that gave me the food. So of course, jenn pushes the old "how about buy drink for my partner" bullshit. Fuuuuck! I hate that! So of course I caved and I did, regretting not opting for just leaving a big tip, because I just knew in my head this was going to happen. Anyway, as I said the food was good, but not $40 two drinks good, more like $20 one drink good.
I think I want to try Camelot or Ashley's next. What days got the better wahines at those places?
Xclusive halting the early, M-F, shift; early places include (for now) Di's, Hot Spot. Lotus bartending crew Jennifer and Mae: Mae is nihongo speaking, 55-60 yo, L=6, massage skills, good temperament, medium build, with huge tits. Jennifer is just pushy and huge.
LOL! LMFAO!! Good one Mits.One time I was there and she when make mad face and mistreat one customer (in front of a full bar counter) to pay his late tab; KBG with the tab confirmed that was the wrong guy. She when go slither and hide in the kitchen and crawl out fast to the parking lot later (TC never say sorry, or nothing). After that crap I never went back (especially after the joint when get reputation as one 'gaming bar') and soon later the place when get problems. Anyway, TC's mad face was better looking than her regular mug and her 'big shot' attitude right in line with her asshole KoD personality. Hopefully, that's all over (but shit rolls downhill, so get chance for TC for roll someplace again).
Will probably visit the Twilight, Gion, Lotus, Hot Spot, Ashley, Xclusive, Camelot areas this weekend to listen to the scuttlebutt and laugh at the regular ridiculousness of the LVBs and their DKBGs. Dayshift is fun in that way.
WarriorForLife
02-22-19, 13:54
There is nothing good there in Ashley and Camelot at night.
I can't see any better during the day.
One time I was there and she when make mad face and mistreat one customer (in front of a full bar counter) to pay his late tab; KBG with the tab confirmed that was the wrong guy. She when go slither and hide in the kitchen and crawl out fast to the parking lot later (TC never say sorry, or nothing). After that crap I never went back (especially after the joint when get reputation as one 'gaming bar') and soon later the place when get problems. Anyway, TC's mad face was better looking than her regular mug and her 'big shot' attitude right in line with her asshole KoD personality. Hopefully, that's all over (but shit rolls downhill, so get chance for TC for roll someplace again).
Will probably visit the Twilight, Gion, Lotus, Hot Spot, Ashley, Xclusive, Camelot areas this weekend to listen to the scuttlebutt and laugh at the regular ridiculousness of the LVBs and their DKBGs. Dayshift is fun in that way..
Lualualei808
02-22-19, 17:37
One time I was there and she when make mad face and mistreat one customer (in front of a full bar counter) to pay his late tab; KBG with the tab confirmed that was the wrong guy. She when go slither and hide in the kitchen and crawl out fast to the parking lot later (TC never say sorry, or nothing). After that crap I never went back (especially after the joint when get reputation as one 'gaming bar') and soon later the place when get problems. Anyway, TC's mad face was better looking than her regular mug and her 'big shot' attitude right in line with her asshole KoD personality. Hopefully, that's all over (but shit rolls downhill, so get chance for TC for roll someplace again).
Will probably visit the Twilight, Gion, Lotus, Hot Spot, Ashley, Xclusive, Camelot areas this weekend to listen to the scuttlebutt and laugh at the regular ridiculousness of the LVBs and their DKBGs. Dayshift is fun in that way.Mits, I agree, she has a shit ass personality with no brains. She must be the most stupidest KB mama.
Talking of stupid, where is Gion and Hot Spot? Sorry I am one stupid fat , bald and fugly Pabo LVB.
Mits, I agree, she has a shit ass personality with no brains. She must be the most stupidest KB mama. Where is Gion and Hot Spot?L: Gion and HSpot stay same complex with Twilight and Lotus; same side and just Diamond Head of the old Evergreen; and no tease old, fugly me (at least I try). WFL: no more Miss Korea during dayshift at all KBs; all has-beens like me. Maybe going get one rare case of Beauty, but mostly Beasts. Got to learn to work with what get, instead of what could get (because most likely not going happen).
Lualualei808
02-23-19, 03:23
L: Gion and HSpot stay same complex with Twilight and Lotus; same side and just Diamond Head of the old Evergreen; and no tease old, fugly me (at least I try). WFL: no more Miss Korea during dayshift at all KBs; all has-beens like me. Maybe going get one rare case of Beauty, but mostly Beasts. Got to learn to work with what get, instead of what could get (because most likely not going happen).Mits thanks for the 411. At least you not stupid Pabo LVB like me.
Nina & Ray (Xclusive) and Charlie (retirement) now at Hot Spot. Ray is the early bartender, M-F, 0800-1300 hrs. ; Charlie is the 1300 hrs. Bartender, W-F; Nina is the 'hostess with the mostest,' early shift. Whenever. With this trio, the joint has picked up business. Twilight must be hurting.
Chi-chis seem to be the theme here with the bartenders; don't know who they are but both wear short dresses and are treated like DKBG by their LVBs. KBG One is heavily made-up on the large side with fading looks. She has an old LVB who constantly tells her "You so pretty" and "They send me naked picture so I waiting for yours. " If you on the counter, forget the service if the old buggah buying her and her partner drinks; she blind to everything except the nekos. Bartender Two has a medium build with plain looks but better bar business skills: ready with the smile, and asks, "one moa. Chips? Tends to lose the 'service' focus easily when distracted with food, LVB.
Anyway, this is like par for the KB / KBG course. When the old Chill going open? Supposed to be March sometime.
Take it easy.
Sun Luck Kid
03-04-19, 16:39
Can someone give me some help on how to have a little more fun at Korean bars? I've been to a few of the Kalihi bars lately and have had an ok time, but was hoping to get some pointers on how to have a better time. I'm pretty good at avoiding the high tabs by refusing to buy drinks for her friend or 'sister' or birthday drinks for momma. I'm also happy to buy drinks for my girl as long as she sits with me, makes me feel handsome and offers a little play in the booth, but I stop buying drinks if she asks for refills too quickly or she gets up and leaves often. I guess I'm wondering if that is it? I buy maybe 4-5 lady drinks and get to feel her boobs and butt and she reciprocates, but that is about it. Is there more that happens in the booths? If so, can anyone point me to a girl at a bar that offers a little more booth play without really trying to rip me off for drinks? I am not interested in finding a girlfriend or any play outside of the bar. Just a little more fun at the bar. PM or public response is fine.
Blackbriar
03-04-19, 19:59
Can someone give me some help on how to have a little more fun at Korean bars? I've been to a few of the Kalihi bars lately and have had an ok time, but was hoping to get some pointers on how to have a better time. I'm pretty good at avoiding the high tabs by refusing to buy drinks for her friend or 'sister' or birthday drinks for momma. I'm also happy to buy drinks for my girl as long as she sits with me, makes me feel handsome and offers a little play in the booth, but I stop buying drinks if she asks for refills too quickly or she gets up and leaves often. I guess I'm wondering if that is it? I buy maybe 4-5 lady drinks and get to feel her boobs and butt and she reciprocates, but that is about it. Is there more that happens in the booths? If so, can anyone point me to a girl at a bar that offers a little more booth play without really trying to rip me off for drinks? I am not interested in finding a girlfriend or any play outside of the bar. Just a little more fun at the bar. PM or public response is fine.Go to any Vietnamese bar and pay your beer with a $100 dollar bill and maybe you might earn your username.
Captin Crunch
03-04-19, 20:02
Can someone give me some help on how to have a little more fun at Korean bars? I've been to a few of the Kalihi bars lately and have had an ok time, but was hoping to get some pointers on how to have a better time. I'm pretty good at avoiding the high tabs by refusing to buy drinks for her friend or 'sister' or birthday drinks for momma. I'm also happy to buy drinks for my girl as long as she sits with me, makes me feel handsome and offers a little play in the booth, but I stop buying drinks if she asks for refills too quickly or she gets up and leaves often. I guess I'm wondering if that is it? I buy maybe 4-5 lady drinks and get to feel her boobs and butt and she reciprocates, but that is about it. Is there more that happens in the booths? If so, can anyone point me to a girl at a bar that offers a little more booth play without really trying to rip me off for drinks? I am not interested in finding a girlfriend or any play outside of the bar. Just a little more fun at the bar. PM or public response is fine.Go to Waterfall on Waiakamilo. Not good looking, but they play if you pay.
WarriorForLife
03-04-19, 20:16
Don't waste your time. The girls these days are more interested in their smart phone than you, unless you have bus load of money to spend. They would quickly dry up your wallet and hop on to another table. You can try the retirement home Waterfall as one poster suggested. But only if you don't mind sit with grannies or great grannies.
I am cutting back going to KBs from twice a week to twice a month. KBs are not fun as it used to be. Lots of BSs from the girls. Good luck!
Can someone give me some help on how to have a little more fun at Korean bars? I've been to a few of the Kalihi bars lately and have had an ok time, but was hoping to get some pointers on how to have a better time. I'm pretty good at avoiding the high tabs by refusing to buy drinks for her friend or 'sister' or birthday drinks for momma. I'm also happy to buy drinks for my girl as long as she sits with me, makes me feel handsome and offers a little play in the booth, but I stop buying drinks if she asks for refills too quickly or she gets up and leaves often. I guess I'm wondering if that is it? I buy maybe 4-5 lady drinks and get to feel her boobs and butt and she reciprocates, but that is about it. Is there more that happens in the booths? If so, can anyone point me to a girl at a bar that offers a little more booth play without really trying to rip me off for drinks? I am not interested in finding a girlfriend or any play outside of the bar. Just a little more fun at the bar. PM or public response is fine.
Sun Luck Kid
03-04-19, 22:19
Go to Waterfall on Waiakamilo. Not good looking, but they play if you pay.I've been there before and sat with a girl named Amber. Is she still there? All others were way too old to consider. Are all the other places no play? Not even HJ or BJ?
Can someone give me some help on how to have a little more fun at Korean bars? I've been to a few of the Kalihi bars lately and have had an ok time, but was hoping to get some pointers on how to have a better time. I'm pretty good at avoiding the high tabs by refusing to buy drinks for her friend or 'sister' or birthday drinks for momma. I'm also happy to buy drinks for my girl as long as she sits with me, makes me feel handsome and offers a little play in the booth, but I stop buying drinks if she asks for refills too quickly or she gets up and leaves often. I guess I'm wondering if that is it? I buy maybe 4-5 lady drinks and get to feel her boobs and butt and she reciprocates, but that is about it. Is there more that happens in the booths? If so, can anyone point me to a girl at a bar that offers a little more booth play without really trying to rip me off for drinks? I am not interested in finding a girlfriend or any play outside of the bar. Just a little more fun at the bar. PM or public response is fine.If you want sex, you should go to Kison. Forget the bar.
Captin Crunch
03-04-19, 23:25
I've been there before and sat with a girl named Amber. Is she still there? All others were way too old to consider. Are all the other places no play? Not even HJ or BJ?Amber is still there and has many customers.
All good advice for the SLK; now got to make up the mind. More bettah go to AMP for straight-up sex; VBs for $1 boom-booms; KBs for get your wallet ripped (Waterfall, if you not picky). There's a wahine for you out there, just got to be patient and no get attached.
Sun Luck Kid
03-05-19, 19:29
All good advice for the SLK; now got to make up the mind. More bettah go to AMP for straight-up sex; VBs for $1 boom-booms; KBs for get your wallet ripped (Waterfall, if you not picky). There's a wahine for you out there, just got to be patient and no get attached.Thank you for the great advice! Anybody willing to update the Vietnamese Bar thread with some good recommendations? Cache is closed. Never really liked Misty. What are the other good options?
Can someone give me some help on how to have a little more fun at Korean bars? I've been to a few of the Kalihi bars lately and have had an ok time, but was hoping to get some pointers on how to have a better time. I'm pretty good at avoiding the high tabs by refusing to buy drinks for her friend or 'sister' or birthday drinks for momma. I'm also happy to buy drinks for my girl as long as she sits with me, makes me feel handsome and offers a little play in the booth, but I stop buying drinks if she asks for refills too quickly or she gets up and leaves often. I guess I'm wondering if that is it? I buy maybe 4-5 lady drinks and get to feel her boobs and butt and she reciprocates, but that is about it. Is there more that happens in the booths? If so, can anyone point me to a girl at a bar that offers a little more booth play without really trying to rip me off for drinks? I am not interested in finding a girlfriend or any play outside of the bar. Just a little more fun at the bar. PM or public response is fine.Korean bars sometimes have good take out service but poor about in booth service. It is rarely available, but can be had. The girls that offer services in the booth at a Korean bar are widely known and have a line of waiting customers. All services generally can be had from the Korean princesses at their place or in hotel, but the AMP girls are more up to pleasing their men than their bar girl sisters. My experience, it will probably take around 10 lady drinks before you get the bar girl attention for take out service. Another expensive option is to use one of the karaoke rooms but they can rip you off and you may end up with just an empty wallet.
Wfl's Fox does take out, but she wants to get drunk before going home with you the first time.
Can someone give me some help on how to have a little more fun at Korean bars? I've been to a few of the Kalihi bars lately and have had an ok time, but was hoping to get some pointers on how to have a better time. I'm pretty good at avoiding the high tabs by refusing to buy drinks for her friend or 'sister' or birthday drinks for momma. I'm also happy to buy drinks for my girl as long as she sits with me, makes me feel handsome and offers a little play in the booth, but I stop buying drinks if she asks for refills too quickly or she gets up and leaves often. I guess I'm wondering if that is it? I buy maybe 4-5 lady drinks and get to feel her boobs and butt and she reciprocates, but that is about it. Is there more that happens in the booths? If so, can anyone point me to a girl at a bar that offers a little more booth play without really trying to rip me off for drinks? I am not interested in finding a girlfriend or any play outside of the bar. Just a little more fun at the bar. PM or public response is fine.Korean bars sometimes have good take out service but poor about in booth service. It is rarely available, but can be had. The girls that offer services in the booth at a Korean bar are widely known and have a line of waiting customers. All services generally can be had from the Korean princesses at their place or in hotel, but the AMP girls are more up to pleasing their men than their bar girl sisters. My experience, it will probably take around 10 lady drinks before you get the bar girl attention for take out service. Another expensive option is to use one of the karaoke rooms but they can rip you off and you may end up with just an empty wallet.
Wfl's Fox does take out, but she wants to get drunk before going home with you the first time.
WarriorForLife
03-08-19, 20:52
Unless you have money to waste. Take out isn't affordable for an average Joe. Some of them just sit there sipping drink after drink. By the time of last call. They claim they are drunk and sneak out the back door into the waiting cab to go home.
Say no to karaoke room, they lure you in there, you getting a little tease, and you go home blue balled most of the time.
Korean bars sometimes have good take out service but poor about in booth service. It is rarely available, but can be had. The girls that offer services in the booth at a Korean bar are widely known and have a line of waiting customers. All services generally can be had from the Korean princesses at their place or in hotel, but the AMP girls are more up to pleasing their men than their bar girl sisters. My experience, it will probably take around 10 lady drinks before you get the bar girl attention for take out service. Another expensive option is to use one of the karaoke rooms but they can rip you off and you may end up with just an empty wallet.
Wfl's Fox does take out, but she wants to get drunk before going home with you the first time.
Unless you have money to waste. Take out isn't affordable for an average Joe. Some of them just sit there sipping drink after drink. By the time of last call. They claim they are drunk and sneak out the back door into the waiting cab to go home.
Say no to karaoke room, they lure you in there, you getting a little tease, and you go home blue balled most of the time.You are so right about that. Best bet is with the AMP kgirl.
Unless you have money to waste. Take out isn't affordable for an average Joe. Some of them just sit there sipping drink after drink. By the time of last call. They claim they are drunk and sneak out the back door into the waiting cab to go home.
Say no to karaoke room, they lure you in there, you getting a little tease, and you go home blue balled most of the time.Yeah, watch out for the ones who ask you to buy her "sister" a drink, then get some ragged KBG to sit next to you and "buy her drink". Getting double and triple teamed is very disrespectful and only shows the greed and bad service that cause many a potential customer to leave that bar and never come back.
That skinny one with no ass and fake push up titty bra tried that on me, even wanted me to buy that gay guy DJ a drink, told her no way because he keeps putting my karaoke songs under the que and let his friends sing before my songs came up. That place is Lucky Houna in Kalihi. So you guys should watch out for this KBG. I wouldn't bang her even if she wanted to go take out for under $100 or no drinks better go AMP.
Dr Mallard
03-09-19, 02:43
Went by to see Sandra at her bar within Vegas Bar and she is gone. Shut down. I guess Super Bowl is over, and football makes the money for them. That's all I know. Hope she turns up somewhere else.
Doc.
I recently went out bar hopping to Korean bars by starting in Kalihi and ending in PC. I saw a lot of girls I know from years ago and that part was fun. I have to say over all KB are not the same. The whole vibe is different and not as fun. Girls on their phones and the ones who do come by are just pushing drinks. Buy me, buy my sister, and buy mama. It was never like that before. AMP is a better dollar spent unless you want the thrill of the chase and blue balls.
Went by to see Sandra at her bar within Vegas Bar and she is gone. Shut down. I guess Super Bowl is over, and football makes the money for them. That's all I know. Hope she turns up somewhere else.
Doc.Was that the one all the way in the back? They kind of gave the whole place itself a bad vibe by catering to no class youngins. Lot of relatively younger mamas learning it's not easy to run a bar.
WarriorForLife
03-10-19, 01:57
People not enjoy going to bars anymore. They feel not welcome. There is no one to greet you when you step in to the door, all the girls just sit at a corner playing with their phone. Girls all with poker face, they don't come to you, that just not right you have to go to them. There is no music, no pupus. Football pau, nothing on TV. I have seen a lot of guys just have one drink and get out of there.
I recently went out bar hopping to Korean bars by starting in Kalihi and ending in PC. I saw a lot of girls I know from years ago and that part was fun. I have to say over all KB are not the same. The whole vibe is different and not as fun. Girls on their phones and the ones who do come by are just pushing drinks. Buy me, buy my sister, and buy mama. It was never like that before. AMP is a better dollar spent unless you want the thrill of the chase and blue balls.
Heard the renovation for chill is going take a little longer than expected. As a result Mimi is going send her girls to Ashley next week for the time being.
WarriorForLife
03-11-19, 00:50
Really don't know why Mimi would spend money to renovate Chill. Everyone know that lot is on the demo list. Would it worth to do that if the lease is just a short term?
Heard the renovation for chill is going take a little longer than expected. As a result Mimi is going send her girls to Ashley next week for the time being.
Yeah, watch out for the ones who ask you to buy her "sister" a drink, then get some ragged KBG to sit next to you and "buy her drink". Getting double and triple teamed is very disrespectful and only shows the greed and bad service that cause many a potential customer to leave that bar and never come back.
That skinny one with no ass and fake push up titty bra tried that on me, even wanted me to buy that gay guy DJ a drink, told her no way because he keeps putting my karaoke songs under the que and let his friends sing before my songs came up. That place is Lucky Houna in Kalihi. So you guys should watch out for this KBG. I wouldn't bang her even if she wanted to go take out for under $100 or no drinks better go AMP.Word on the KB wireless is the two Lucky Honu mamas are getting cockroached and disrespected left and right, only the gay boy is loyal. Over / under is three more months. Even cheap pussy will not bail them out, but NEVER SAY NEVER!
Was that the one all the way in the back? They kind of gave the whole place itself a bad vibe by catering to no class youngins. Lot of relatively younger mamas learning it's not easy to run a bar.Sandra's one year lease was up, and she wanted to open up somewhere else. So she's going on vacay and will pop up again somewhere. Soon I hope. I always thought that she was entertaining and gave great service. I especially liked to sit at the bar across from the washbasin (she's an excellent dishwasher). Don't know about no class youngins. But I was there a couple of times the young HPD CRU teams had farewell parties, but I don't think that they were Back Bar customers. I personally hope that she goes back to being a bartender / hostess because she gets so busy as a Mama.
It'll be a race to see who opens up a new place first: Sandra or Jin! Anybody hear anything? Musical chairs continues, but the music hasn't stopped yet. Tho it seems a lot of patrons are complaining about the song selection. . .
Sandra's one year lease was up, and she wanted to open up somewhere else. So she's going on vacay and will pop up again somewhere. Soon I hope. I always thought that she was entertaining and gave great service. I especially liked to sit at the bar across from the washbasin (she's an excellent dishwasher). Don't know about no class youngins. But I was there a couple of times the young HPD CRU teams had farewell parties, but I don't think that they were Back Bar customers. I personally hope that she goes back to being a bartender / hostess because she gets so busy as a Mama.
Yeah she would get the type of groups you would see like at xclusive or Arena. I know the other mama at the front bar would complain about why she allowing those type of kids in. Hell I wouldn't even doubt if some were under 21. Was tough because of the area they're in and but at the same time kind of hard to be choosy to make money.
BeaverLiquor
03-11-19, 14:35
Whoa, wait theres cheap pussy at Lucky Honu? Please share the info, I been missing out on this gold mine.
Word on the KB wireless is the two Lucky Honu mamas are getting cockroached and disrespected left and right, only the gay boy is loyal. Over / under is three more months. Even cheap pussy will not bail them out, but NEVER SAY NEVER!
WarriorForLife
03-11-19, 16:39
There is no such thing as cheap pussy in KBs. There girls will get you one or another. If it is not for the drinks. They will get you, honey please buy me this and buy me that.
Whoa, wait theres cheap pussy at Lucky Honu? Please share the info, I been missing out on this gold mine.
Lualualei808
03-11-19, 22:35
Heard the renovation for chill is going take a little longer than expected. As a result Mimi is going send her girls to Ashley next week for the time being.Thru the KBG wireless, she is moving to Ashley's this Friday. As to when she moves to Chill, only time will tell. Heard ran out of money so the renovation stopped. FWIW.
WarriorForLife
03-11-19, 22:58
That place suck no matter who run it. Remember they used to have 3 mamas until one of them ran away with the money. Donna and Kelly tried to hold the place together after, they leased the small bar to locals but they did not lasted long, they folded after a few months. 904 bartender took over the place the bar, she did not lasted long either. Donna and Kelly took it over and they leased the small bar to Sandra. It seem like she did not do that well so she quits. Lots of musical chairs in the place, but it seem like no matter who is running the place, they can't get everyone in there.
Maybe they should hire better bartenders, replace Hana and put her on the floor, cause all she does is want it to drink.
Even my baby honey Fox is fed up over there. She said the place is so slow, she needs to hop on to the neighbor bars to make a few more bucks. If the legendary can't help the place, I would say no one else can.
Sandra's one year lease was up, and she wanted to open up somewhere else. So she's going on vacay and will pop up again somewhere. Soon I hope. I always thought that she was entertaining and gave great service. I especially liked to sit at the bar across from the washbasin (she's an excellent dishwasher). Don't know about no class youngins. But I was there a couple of times the young HPD CRU teams had farewell parties, but I don't think that they were Back Bar customers. I personally hope that she goes back to being a bartender / hostess because she gets so busy as a Mama.
It'll be a race to see who opens up a new place first: Sandra or Jin! Anybody hear anything? Musical chairs continues, but the music hasn't stopped yet. Tho it seems a lot of patrons are complaining about the song selection. . .
Thru the KBG wireless, she is moving to Ashley's this Friday. As to when she moves to Chill, only time will tell. Heard ran out of money so the renovation stopped. FWIW.That sounds like the typical Mimi modus operandi. When she told everyone she was moving to Camelot, she had not finalized the deal with Laura because she didn't have the money. So the much anticipated move did not happen until a month later.
Viet Whisperer
03-12-19, 07:17
That place suck no matter who run it. Remember they used to have 3 mamas until one of them ran away with the money. Donna and Kelly tried to hold the place together after, they leased the small bar to locals but they did not lasted long, they folded after a few months. 904 bartender took over the place the bar, she did not lasted long either. Donna and Kelly took it over and they leased the small bar to Sandra. It seem like she did not do that well so she quits. Lots of musical chairs in the place, but it seem like no matter who is running the place, they can't get everyone in there.
Maybe they should hire better bartenders, replace Hana and put her on the floor, cause all she does is want it to drink.
Even my baby honey Fox is fed up over there. She said the place is so slow, she needs to hop on to the neighbor bars to make a few more bucks. If the legendary can't help the place, I would say no one else can.Bigger bars are too tough to keep running because of the large overhead. Why does this one and Ashley's struggle no matter what? Too big and too much rent. Evergreen survived because they were open till 4 basically. K style is another one that's too big and struggles also. The medium to smaller ones do better. Why do you think that humongous bar below Pine Tree is still vacant? It's way too fucking big to make any money. More girls equals more salary also and when it's slow the mamas have to buy their girls some drinks to keep them around. Too many girls is actually bad for the business but guys like it.
Bigger bars are too tough to keep running because of the large overhead. Why does this one and Ashley's struggle no matter what? Too big and too much rent. Evergreen survived because they were open till 4 basically. K style is another one that's too big and struggles also. The medium to smaller ones do better. Why do you think that humongous bar below Pine Tree is still vacant? It's way too fucking big to make any money. More girls equals more salary also and when it's slow the mamas have to buy their girls some drinks to keep them around. Too many girls is actually bad for the business but guys like it.How is too many girls bad for the business? The more girls there are, wouldn't that mean there are more options for the customers? Business which was below pine tree was in a relatively bad location for that time. Back then people had the convenience on being able to walk from one bar to another conveniently. Business was off the path. Ashley, the mama and name changed many times but that spot has been there forever and they have had their good times. Same goes with chill, although that spot is relatively new. The real problem is the mamas that runs things. Of course too also have to be smart where to open a bar. Vegas's location is just pure bad. Kalihi is tough period, but to also be in a farther isolated spot makes it almost impossible. That place was better off being advertised as 2 bars like before.
Viet Whisperer
03-13-19, 07:09
How is too many girls bad for the business? The more girls there are, wouldn't that mean there are more options for the customers? Business which was below pine tree was in a relatively bad location for that time. Back then people had the convenience on being able to walk from one bar to another conveniently. Business was off the path. Ashley, the mama and name changed many times but that spot has been there forever and they have had their good times. Same goes with chill, although that spot is relatively new. The real problem is the mamas that runs things. Of course too also have to be smart where to open a bar. Vegas's location is just pure bad. Kalihi is tough period, but to also be in a farther isolated spot makes it almost impossible. That place was better off being advertised as 2 bars like before.They are paying salaries for a lot of them so if they are sitting on their ass in a booth even though the bar is full of customers drinking with other girls there's an expense to that. A balance is s needed. Yes the customers might like the selection initially but let's face it most guys find one girl they like and don't change in that bar because they don't like feeling uncomfortable around a girl who is mad because you're drinking with a coworker now. It was good when girls stayed in their zones and you could have town girlfriends, Kalihi girlfriends and even a Pearl City one too. Now they migrate and eventually you will walk into a five plex bar and find all your honeys are in the same bar or next door which means cue up Welcome to the jungle and you've got some explaining to do LOL.
They are paying salaries for a lot of them so if they are sitting on their ass in a booth even though the bar is full of customers drinking with other girls there's an expense to that. A balance is s needed. Yes the customers might like the selection initially but let's face it most guys find one girl they like and don't change in that bar because they don't like feeling uncomfortable around a girl who is mad because you're drinking with a coworker now. It was good when girls stayed in their zones and you could have town girlfriends, Kalihi girlfriends and even a Pearl City one too. Now they migrate and eventually you will walk into a five plex bar and find all your honeys are in the same bar or next door which means cue up Welcome to the jungle and you've got some explaining to do LOL.Hence Korean zone, Viet zone, and Fil zone. Never the thraine shall meet.
They are paying salaries for a lot of them so if they are sitting on their ass in a booth even though the bar is full of customers drinking with other girls there's an expense to that. A balance is s needed. Yes the customers might like the selection initially but let's face it most guys find one girl they like and don't change in that bar because they don't like feeling uncomfortable around a girl who is mad because you're drinking with a coworker now. It was good when girls stayed in their zones and you could have town girlfriends, Kalihi girlfriends and even a Pearl City one too. Now they migrate and eventually you will walk into a five plex bar and find all your honeys are in the same bar or next door which means cue up Welcome to the jungle and you've got some explaining to do LOL.Typically when there are that many girls who are not busy, that just means there's not enough customers for that place period. I mean the bar business these days as a whole is slow. But at the same time the saying goes "to make money you got to spend money. " At the same time too it also has to be spent wisely. As far as girls getting paid salaries, I have never heard that as a regular thing. I know some mamas will offer some girls medical and some might give incentives to persuade them to work. I don't know if that's what you mean. But not every mama does that. Although I could see a lot of these newer mamas doing that, hence on why they not lasting long. I mean these girls are already making 20-whatever the cost of the drink is and then you got the other up drinks.
WarriorForLife
03-14-19, 03:40
I would say 80 pct of these girls do not get salary, number might even be higher. When Summit TC mama stop paying girls in salary, you could see long time girls there start to leave.
Vegas mamas also do not believe pay in salary. You could see the place is ghosttown most of the time, cause there is hardly any girls there.
I see a lot of these girls switch profession, a lot of them have day job now. Some work as beautician, some work in Waikiki shops.
Anyway, just wonder how long these bars would last? You are seeing less and less young girls at the bar. Only grandmas left but most of them are very close to retirement.
They are paying salaries for a lot of them so if they are sitting on their ass in a booth even though the bar is full of customers drinking with other girls there's an expense to that. A balance is s needed. Yes the customers might like the selection initially but let's face it most guys find one girl they like and don't change in that bar because they don't like feeling uncomfortable around a girl who is mad because you're drinking with a coworker now. It was good when girls stayed in their zones and you could have town girlfriends, Kalihi girlfriends and even a Pearl City one too. Now they migrate and eventually you will walk into a five plex bar and find all your honeys are in the same bar or next door which means cue up Welcome to the jungle and you've got some explaining to do LOL.
I would say 80 pct of these girls do not get salary, number might even be higher. When Summit TC mama stop paying girls in salary, you could see long time girls there start to leave.
I see a lot of these girls switch profession, a lot of them have day job now. Some work as beautician, some work in Waikiki shops.
to retirement.Once while talking to some KBG she mentioned that mamas wouldn't hire her for any KBG because she owed her allot of money. So she instead got employment in some AMP. I tried to get more info on where she "worked" but that KBG, like most only care about themselves and will not give out that information. Told her no more drinks and left.
What makes these KBG think they are so "high class" when another is willing to work the AMP, but will not even help her get more customers, but try to keep it for themselves. At least I have more respect for an AMP girl than many KBG.
WarriorForLife
03-14-19, 21:23
I know an Ashley girl used to work at Nirvana about 7 or 8 years ago, she won't tell anyone cause she was not proud of what she used to do. I don't blame her friends or her co-workers keeping their lips sealed. Let it be if she chose to keep it in private.
KBGs turn AMP girls are almost non existed. One word to sum it up is their pride.
Lots of these 90 day wonder already left the rock. The mainland imports have also departed to where they came from.
Shortage of new faces with bad services leading to poor busniess. It won't get any better if it isn't corrected.
Once while talking to some KBG she mentioned that mamas wouldn't hire her for any KBG because she owed her allot of money. So she instead got employment in some AMP. I tried to get more info on where she "worked" but that KBG, like most only care about themselves and will not give out that information. Told her no more drinks and left.
What makes these KBG think they are so "high class" when another is willing to work the AMP, but will not even help her get more customers, but try to keep it for themselves. At least I have more respect for an AMP girl than many KBG.
Checked out some of the town bars this past weekend. As mentioned before, Mimi and her girls are at Ashley. Its been a while since I seen that place with that kind of action. Some of the crew from Splash went to Camelot. Splash might have had a few new faces for that place, not entirely sure though. Should be interesting how things end up once Mimi moves into chill, as I heard not everyone was able to go with her to Ashley and other girls who went elsewhere since evergreen have been waiting for her to open a bigger place.
Jan Fortifore
03-29-19, 02:51
I went to Meg's to pick up a plate lunch and while waiting for them to make my order four beautiful KBGs walked out to sit on the bench and smoke and talk. By far the prettiest KBGs I've seen in Kalihi. Unfortunately I was still on the clock. Will return on my day off to check them out.
It's much improved lately as far as good looking women lately. I like Kelly's big ass.
She is old school and Knew her many years ago from Evergreen. Gets touchy and allows it too if drunk enough. But I've never tried taking her in the private room at evergreen. She was so fucking beautiful at evergreen. Let's just say she has done work on herself in the past 3 years she's been gone, and didn't even need it. She WAS an all natural beauty, easily an 8. 5/9 out of 10. Thank god she didn't get rid of her trademark beauty mark on the bridge of her nose, yet LOL. Good luck, I do like this bar it's pretty chill with an older crowd like me hehe.
Any info on that kelly in Golden Tree, heard she only work Friday and sat night bartend, any other place she work during the other days? Does she play? Or waste of time and money?
I stopped in to Golden Tree off Waiakamilo yesterday for a pau hana drink, and all the staff is different. I had not been there since February 2019. I assume a new mama took over and brought in new workers.
Anyone know where the old staff went? I am looking specifically for the tall Mongolian bar maid named "Monica". She came to Oahu from Maui late last year, she said. Was in Chicago before that.
TIA.
Jan Fortifore.Anyone know if Golden Tree off Waiakamilo had a recent transition, or did I just go on a day with different staff working?
January44.
AlphaWolf69
03-29-19, 02:56
Anybody knows where bartender Lena, who worked at Aqua Lounge is working nowadays? I miss her food.
RoadRally2
03-29-19, 14:35
I basically never Go to Korean bars, but I got curious last weekend and did some exploring. Waterfall looked shutdown on Saturday night around 1 am?? Drove down the block to the corner and the other places were open but not a whole lot going on. What time do they normally close?
Anybody knows where bartender Lena, who worked at Aqua Lounge is working nowadays? I miss her food.Lena supposedly bought the lease when the place was called You & I. She then changed the name to Aqua. She may still be there in the late afternoons unless she leased.
It out to someone else which may have happened.
Lena supposedly bought the lease when the place was called You & I. She then changed the name to Aqua. She may still be there in the late afternoons unless she leased.
It out to someone else which may have happened.I saw her at Lilac in one of the booths.
Anybody knows where bartender Lena, who worked at Aqua Lounge is working nowadays? I miss her food.Saw her at Lilac last Sat as daytime BT. I think she said she also worked Sunday's.
BeerAddict
03-31-19, 18:17
Saw her at Lilac last Sat as daytime BT. I think she said she also worked Sunday's.She just texted me yesterday asking to come and visit her daytime Sunday so Sunday BT must be true.
Sukebe1808
04-05-19, 19:16
Anyone got any info on bartender sasha at camelot. Cute looking girl. Guy at the bar bought her drink but before she even drank it she got called to a table where a bottle was served.
Anyone got any info on bartender sasha at camelot. Cute looking girl. Guy at the bar bought her drink but before she even drank it she got called to a table where a bottle was served.Is she late 40's, about 5'6", 115 lbs?
DreadNaught
04-11-19, 05:27
I caught Julie on a Tuesday evening soon after midnight. She was feeling pretty good with her earlier patrons filling her up with cheap beer. She's probably reached the KBG stage in life that she's seen and done it all. So I gladly primed her with soju shots and more beer. All these drinks, karaoke and laughing got the attention of Kelly- a younger beautiful veteran at Golden Tree. I threw her a few drinks while Julie kept wanting my attention. Pulling up her short skirt, grabbing my hand to bring it between her warm thighs. She responded favorably when I pull her panty to the side and fingered her steamy slit- surprised as it was moist at her age. What shocked me though as I took my hand away, she grabbed it and smelled her scent from my digit. She was toast *and* I had to wash my hands!
The bar closed soon thereafter and I walked her to the car. Her coworkers drove off as we found a secluded area and started DFK her. I felt her breasts and as she pulled her bra up, I couldn't believe the beautiful pink puffy nipples on this mature woman. No saggy breasts with dark brown areolas! Breasts that would make a middle aged woman jealous. I made her look down on me as I flicked my wet tongue around her hardened puffed nipple as it entered in my mouth. She started to get more vocal and I said that we should call it a night. There will be more nights of Julie at Golden Tree.
As for Kelly, very beautiful younger lady with very nice assets. I will probably do an end around with Julie when the time comes and see who wants to explore further with more sensual conversations.
DN.
Hawaiian007
04-11-19, 16:30
My friend, been there, many times, spent a lot of dollars getting there and then beyond. IF and I say IF you can get further without emptying your bankroll good luck. Sometimes they are just in the mood and horny until the next time when its all business again. Ahhh the memories.
007.
I caught Julie on a Tuesday evening soon after midnight. She was feeling pretty good with her earlier patrons filling her up with cheap beer. She's probably reached the KBG stage in life that she's seen and done it all. So I gladly primed her with soju shots and more beer. All these drinks, karaoke and laughing got the attention of Kelly- a younger beautiful veteran at Golden Tree. I threw her a few drinks while Julie kept wanting my attention. Pulling up her short skirt, grabbing my hand to bring it between her warm thighs. She responded favorably when I pull her panty to the side and fingered her steamy slit- surprised as it was moist at her age. What shocked me though as I took my hand away, she grabbed it and smelled her scent from my digit. She was toast *and* I had to wash my hands!
The bar closed soon thereafter and I walked her to the car. Her coworkers drove off as we found a secluded area and started DFK her. I felt her breasts and as she pulled her bra up, I couldn't believe the beautiful pink puffy nipples on this mature woman. No saggy breasts with dark brown areolas! Breasts that would make a middle aged woman jealous. I made her look down on me as I flicked my wet tongue around her hardened puffed nipple as it entered in my mouth. She started to get more vocal and I said that we should call it a night. There will be more nights of Julie at Golden Tree.
As for Kelly, very beautiful younger lady with very nice assets. I will probably do an end around with Julie when the time comes and see who wants to explore further with more sensual conversations.
DN.
Not sure if this is the correct forum, as this is technically NOT a Korean Bar. But it is a hostess buy-me-drinkie establishment nonetheless. Used to be Club Melody, which truly was a KB. Stopped by the other night and was quite surprised to see how young and beautiful the girls are. Super hot 10's. Like models. No Asians, tho. A couple of local blondes, brunettes, and even a few black women. Very very young, like early 20's. So were the few guys who were there. Kinda reminds me of what Michelle's was like before it shut down.
Not sure if there is action. Kinda doubt it. These millennials operate at a different wavelength. Very friendly. Didn't push drinks. But didn't quite feel right to pursue anybody like I would at a KB.
Captin Crunch
04-12-19, 13:00
I caught Julie on a Tuesday evening soon after midnight. She was feeling pretty good with her earlier patrons filling her up with cheap beer. She's probably reached the KBG stage in life that she's seen and done it all. So I gladly primed her with soju shots and more beer. All these drinks, karaoke and laughing got the attention of Kelly- a younger beautiful veteran at Golden Tree. I threw her a few drinks while Julie kept wanting my attention. Pulling up her short skirt, grabbing my hand to bring it between her warm thighs. She responded favorably when I pull her panty to the side and fingered her steamy slit- surprised as it was moist at her age. What shocked me though as I took my hand away, she grabbed it and smelled her scent from my digit. She was toast *and* I had to wash my hands!
The bar closed soon thereafter and I walked her to the car. Her coworkers drove off as we found a secluded area and started DFK her. I felt her breasts and as she pulled her bra up, I couldn't believe the beautiful pink puffy nipples on this mature woman. No saggy breasts with dark brown areolas! Breasts that would make a middle aged woman jealous. I made her look down on me as I flicked my wet tongue around her hardened puffed nipple as it entered in my mouth. She started to get more vocal and I said that we should call it a night. There will be more nights of Julie at Golden Tree.
As for Kelly, very beautiful younger lady with very nice assets. I will probably do an end around with Julie when the time comes and see who wants to explore further with more sensual conversations.
DN.Are you talking about Julie Park? Used to be the mama at Lilac at one time?
PointDexterJr
04-12-19, 15:53
I caught Julie on a Tuesday evening soon after midnight. She was feeling pretty good with her earlier patrons filling her up with cheap beer. She's probably reached the KBG stage in life that she's seen and done it all. So I gladly primed her with soju shots and more beer. All these drinks, karaoke and laughing got the attention of Kelly- a younger beautiful veteran at Golden Tree. I threw her a few drinks while Julie kept wanting my attention. Pulling up her short skirt, grabbing my hand to bring it between her warm thighs. She responded favorably when I pull her panty to the side and fingered her steamy slit- surprised as it was moist at her age. What shocked me though as I took my hand away, she grabbed it and smelled her scent from my digit. She was toast *and* I had to wash my hands!
The bar closed soon thereafter and I walked her to the car. Her coworkers drove off as we found a secluded area and started DFK her. I felt her breasts and as she pulled her bra up, I couldn't believe the beautiful pink puffy nipples on this mature woman. No saggy breasts with dark brown areolas! Breasts that would make a middle aged woman jealous. I made her look down on me as I flicked my wet tongue around her hardened puffed nipple as it entered in my mouth. She started to get more vocal and I said that we should call it a night. There will be more nights of Julie at Golden Tree.
As for Kelly, very beautiful younger lady with very nice assets. I will probably do an end around with Julie when the time comes and see who wants to explore further with more sensual conversations.
DN.I have never been to a K Bar, but this sounds pretty interesting -.
6 beers and a few shots of SoJu to get a stinky finger?
HOW MUCH FOR FS?
Don't know how much a drink costs there tho!!
WarriorForLife
04-13-19, 02:12
Don't start if you never been to kBs, it will cost you a ton of money and bunch of headaches come along with it.
I have never been to a K Bar, but this sounds pretty interesting -.
6 beers and a few shots of SoJu to get a stinky finger?
HOW MUCH FOR FS?
Don't know how much a drink costs there tho!!
JackMayhoff
04-13-19, 06:59
Not sure if this is the correct forum, as this is technically NOT a Korean Bar. But it is a hostess buy-me-drinkie establishment nonetheless. Used to be Club Melody, which truly was a KB. Stopped by the other night and was quite surprised to see how young and beautiful the girls are. Super hot 10's. Like models. No Asians, tho. A couple of local blondes, brunettes, and even a few black women. Very very young, like early 20's. So were the few guys who were there. Kinda reminds me of what Michelle's was like before it shut down.
Not sure if there is action. Kinda doubt it. These millennials operate at a different wavelength. Very friendly. Didn't push drinks. But didn't quite feel right to pursue anybody like I would at a KB.There used to be a forum called 'kiddie clubs', but I think it ended when michelles closed. The other kiddie clubs are exclusive, next to camelot on sheridan, and mistique, next to side street inn.
To answer your question, kiddie club melody has been open for a while, it was the small door to the left of KB club melody and they shared the liquor license. But the kb side closed down so kiddie side took over both bars. The mama is alyssa who used to work at michelles and dated the owner john RIP. She is fun, but a true hustler so be prepared to spend your kala. She only drinks 80's (quadruple shots), served in champagne glasses. There are definitely some hot girls, but very limited action because theres no real privacy. The old kiddie side been turned into a VIP lapdance room, but again, you going to overpay for blueballs. A few of the girls do take out, but its a different hustle from kb bars for sure. You need to invest a lot more time and money into these girls first because they arent traditional kb bargirls who you can walk in, buy one drink and then ask for sex for money. You just going to get a slap.
There's one mixed girl who is absolutely amazing, she used to dance in vegas and walks around with designer bags and red bottom shoes. Forgot her name- but she reminds me of the old school bargrirls from michelles days who would break guys hearts (and wallets). Had a fun chat with her about her career goals but didn't ask for takeout because I know my atm daily limit.
Also a lot of local young boys there same like at michelles- so be careful you don't make anyone jealous by attacting to much attention or talking to a girl when her boyfriend is sitting behind her watching. And now theres a cover charge on weekends so don't bother going in unless you know a girl who can come out and wave the cover for you.
JackMayhoff
04-13-19, 07:00
Anyone got any info on bartender sasha at camelot. Cute looking girl. Guy at the bar bought her drink but before she even drank it she got called to a table where a bottle was served.And that's why no one goes to camelot anymore.
Sukebe1808
04-13-19, 23:08
Is she late 40's, about 5'6", 115 lbs?She looks more like mid to late 30's maybe 5'6 qoth the heels on but inwould think a little lighter.
When is Mimi opening her new bar? I thought it was supposed to be this month.
When is Mimi opening her new bar? I thought it was supposed to be this month.Been asking around and nobody seems to know. All I heard is supposedly the inside is finished. I haven't even seen Mimi at Ashley's lately. Some of her girls are still there and some I guess are taking a break.
BallzDeep69
04-25-19, 16:47
Went to Lotus with some friends and had a nice looking girl named Bonnie. Anyone know if she plays?
When is Mimi opening her new bar? I thought it was supposed to be this month.I was sitting at the bar at Ashley's and overheard someone saying they will open May 9. Obviously I can't vouch for that, just passing along what I heard.
KBG update for you Sandra Mama aficionados:
Sandra is with Ellie at Club Lotus at the Kenrock Bldg in Koreamoku. First day is Monday 4/29.
Two Truths and a Lie about Sandra:
1. She chose not to renew her lease at Back to Vegas because she really missed her customers in town.
2. Sometimes she doesn't wear any underwear.
3. She worked out so hard during her vacation that her boobs shrank from EEs to DDs.
Go see her and find the truth for yourselves.
GG.
Two Truths and a Lie about Sandra: Sometimes she doesn't wear any underwear.Good. Then match with bartender Hana, who doesn't wear braja; guys position themselves on the counter to watch her wash glasses. As for the bar opening, based on past performance, she probably no more enough money to finish it off (renovations, opening, operations delayed). Just got to be patient, I guess, based on scuttlebutt.
WarriorForLife
04-27-19, 18:47
Losing money is why Sandra baited out. Vegas has absolutely no traffic, slow as hell, even with the legendary Fox there can't help much.
As far as no bra Hana. It is a waste of money to buy drinks. No play and no food, all she does is drink, not a very good bartender.
It is getting pretty bad at Makaloa area at night. Lots of dealing and wheeling going on. Last night a guy got stabbed and another guy got beaten up. Homeless and people living in the vehicle all over there. Saw a homeless cleaning up his boby at nearby Walmart restroom the other day. Easy access to bathroom 24/7 is one of the reasons why transients love to hangout in the area.
Park your car near the bar if you happen to visit at Makaloa area bars late at night. It is a pretty spooky and dangerous to say the leastl.
Good. Then match with bartender Hana, who doesn't wear braja; guys position themselves on the counter to watch her wash glasses. As for the bar opening, based on past performance, she probably no more enough money to finish it off (renovations, opening, operations delayed). Just got to be patient, I guess, based on scuttlebutt.
I was sitting at the bar at Ashley's and overheard someone saying they will open May 9. Obviously I can't vouch for that, just passing along what I heard.I was just walking the doggie and I noticed the front door was open so I went inside and asked the k lady when will they open. She couldn't answer the question but had to ask one of the men. He replied, "May 9".
Viet Whisperer
04-28-19, 10:05
KBG update for you Sandra Mama aficionados:
Sandra is with Ellie at Club Lotus at the Kenrock Bldg in Koreamoku. First day is Monday 4/29.
Two Truths and a Lie about Sandra:
1. She chose not to renew her lease at Back to Vegas because she really missed her customers in town.
2. Sometimes she doesn't wear any underwear.
3. She worked out so hard during her vacation that her boobs shrank from EEs to DDs.
Go see her and find the truth for yourselves.
GG.I'm going to say 2 and 3 are true 😂.
Viet Whisperer
04-28-19, 10:10
Losing money is why Sandra baited out. Vegas has absolutely no traffic, slow as hell, even with the legendary Fox there can't help much.
As far as no bra Hana. It is a waste of money to buy drinks. No play and no food, all she does is drink, not a very good bartender.
It is getting pretty bad at Makaloa area at night. Lots of dealing and wheeling going on. Last night a guy got stabbed and another guy got beaten up. Homeless and people living in the vehicle all over there. Saw a homeless cleaning up his boby at nearby Walmart restroom the other day. Easy access to bathroom 24/7 is one of the reasons why transients love to hangout in the area.
Park your car near the bar if you happen to visit at Makaloa area bars late at night. It is a pretty spooky and dangerous to say the leastl.Dude you have been saying it's the end of the world for the town area for over a year now! It's changed but still has plenty of pussy to be had!
Dude you have been saying it's the end of the world for the town area for over a year now! It's changed but still has plenty of pussy to be had!The KBG youngins are starting to make a comeback; I mean, in their 20's. But who cares as long as "it" can be had as VW observes. There are probably not may places to work or the kind of money they're hoping to make so KBGs either become gypsies or hos (or thieves who recently broke into Twilight (again) to rob the machines, liquor, and whatevers).
The Sheridan / Makaloa / Kapiolani has turned into a circus of the houseless and shady types for sure, but you need to use your noggin to navigate the mess and be ready at all times. No take chances and take it easy.
I wonder with all the AMPs getting busted that the kbs will go back to the old ways to get coustomers. Remember back in the early 90's could get play at almost any bar. Those were good times. Got play in the bar and many take out. If this happens it would bring back the bar scene. Money went far back then.
WarriorForLife
04-28-19, 16:48
Town area bars are changing for the worst. Limited bars selection, princesses moving to kalihi where the money pot is.
I agree still pussy to be had, but you need to empty out your wallet in most cases and with plenty of lucks.
Dude you have been saying it's the end of the world for the town area for over a year now! It's changed but still has plenty of pussy to be had!
Connie and Nikki will be leasing 904 from 5/1/19.
Connie and Nikki will be leasing 904 from 5/1/19.NIKKI from Lilac.
Connie and Nikki will be leasing 904 from 5/1/19.Which Nikki is this?
Passed by couple of times and door closed, parking lot empty. Another sign of the demise of KBs?
Passed by couple of times and door closed, parking lot empty. Another sign of the demise of KBs?My understanding is that Susan Lee will be re-opening the place as of 5/1/19 because the person she had leased the place to had quit as business was very bad.
I wonder with all the AMPs getting busted that the kbs will go back to the old ways to get coustomers. Remember back in the early 90's could get play at almost any bar. Those were good times. Got play in the bar and many take out. If this happens it would bring back the bar scene. Money went far back then.With the way the newer generations are being brought up, succumbing to the old ways would be out of the equation. I mean sure, some could be bought but at a steep price. Plus all these busts on the AMPs is just a temporary down until the elections are done. As LE officials said in the past, "we can never rid of them when there is a demand. " I would be more concerned on the AMP girls becoming narcissist. But that's a conversation for another thread.
Town area bars are changing for the worst. Limited bars selection, princesses moving to kalihi where the money pot is.
I agree still pussy to be had, but you need to empty out your wallet in most cases and with plenty of lucks.I still wondering after all this time where this kalihi gold mine is. Only saw 2 truly happening places, lilac and green tea. Not to mention green tea consist of women more for the older crowd, lilac little better. Don't get me wrong, fewer kbs in town but overall atmosphere for the whole week is still at every bar in town. I mean bars are slow period on weekdays but kalihi is truly ghost town. The younger / hot girls live out in town and most are not willing to commute a mile away from ala Moana especially if they can't make good money there 5 days a week. The reality is if the town scene diminishes, the whole kB scene probably will. Maybe at best kalihi will turn into something like the Maui scene which it kind of is already.
Lualualei808
05-01-19, 23:49
When is Mimi opening her new bar? I thought it was supposed to be this month.Thru the KBG wireless May 9th.
Lualualei808
05-02-19, 12:57
My understanding is that Susan Lee will be re-opening the place as of 5/1/19 because the person she had leased the place to had quit as business was very bad.Yea Sophie was a legend in her own mind. What a bad KB mama. Worst than TC.
Wondering what KB's the local guy that sings and dances like Michael Jackson is hanging out now.
Does anyone have any info on that?
Wondering what KB's the local guy that sings and dances like Michael Jackson is hanging out now.
Does anyone have any info on that?Last I saw him was at splash a few months ago. Of course place was much different then. I'm sure he'll pop up once mimi's place opens.
WarriorForLife
05-05-19, 21:51
There isn't any gold mine as far as KBs is concern these days. Not in town and not in kalihi.
Town side bars selection will continue to take a toll. As we all know Chill and Ashley site is on the demo list. Kona street block is the site of the rail station route. Few bars will be lost there. Just it is matter of time all bars that on the hit list will turn into cloud of dusts.
As far as kalihi is concern. They will take a big hit next year also when the rail construction moving down to Dillingham. Lots of roads will be closing during the night. Kalihi 5 plex will suffer the most. Dillingham will be all broken up for electrical cables and sewer pipes relocation.
So enjoy it while you can. The train is coming to town, big delevoper keep building these so called affordable housing. It is going to get worst before it gets better.
I still wondering after all this time where this kalihi gold mine is. Only saw 2 truly happening places, lilac and green tea. Not to mention green tea consist of women more for the older crowd, lilac little better. Don't get me wrong, fewer kbs in town but overall atmosphere for the whole week is still at every bar in town. I mean bars are slow period on weekdays but kalihi is truly ghost town. The younger / hot girls live out in town and most are not willing to commute a mile away from ala Moana especially if they can't make good money there 5 days a week. The reality is if the town scene diminishes, the whole kB scene probably will. Maybe at best kalihi will turn into something like the Maui scene which it kind of is already.
TomAssCan9
05-05-19, 21:58
Wondering what KB's the local guy that sings and dances like Michael Jackson is hanging out now.
Does anyone have any info on that?Long time neva see the guy. I like the spanish kine songs. That guy can sing and dance.
Long time neva see the guy. I like the spanish kine songs. That guy can sing and dance.Last time I saw him "performing" was several years ago at Safari / Chill, 9-9:30 P; he getting old but the voice and moves still good. If you like speak Russian, go to Lotus for see the Russkis / Hiwis day bartenders from Ashley's; watch out for interference, manipulation, and collusion (and the Mac Daddy who drop them off at work). Odda than that, the KBs are status quo (lifeless and hopeless; in need of rejuvenation). Take it easy.
Lualualei808
05-06-19, 22:27
Thru the KBG wireless, Splash got broken into early Sunday. Took the safe and security video.
Thru the KBG wireless, Splash got broken into early Sunday. Took the safe and security video.Twilight also got robbed of cash (machines) and liquor about a month ago. Maybe serial thieves or inside jobs because been seeing atypical types entering and drinking at the KBs, day shift; robbing with ease and pinpoint accuracy.
WarriorForLife
05-07-19, 18:01
No can help when you have shady people hangout there at night. Makaloa, Sharidan, kapiolani area are becoming like Chinatown at night. People are getting beaten up and robbed. Maybe in a way it is good when they demo all of these bars and build luxury condo and hotel in the area. I am sure these luxury places have their own security to chase these shady people away from their perimeter area.
Twilight also got robbed of cash (machines) and liquor about a month ago. Maybe serial thieves or inside jobs because been seeing atypical types entering and drinking at the KBs, day shift; robbing with ease and pinpoint accuracy.
WarriorForLife
05-07-19, 21:40
Hope they have recorded the security footage to a server instead. The dumbass crooks thinking stealing the security video would avoid revealing their identity.
Like I said, the area is getting bad. Shady people is all around. The other night I was at Secret. A guy came in selling hot items, a leather jacket still have a cable with security sensor attached. One time a guy on wheels asked me if I like to buy drugs when I came out from Ashley walking to my car.
Thru the KBG wireless, Splash got broken into early Sunday. Took the safe and security video.
Viet Whisperer
05-08-19, 03:50
Hope they have recorded the security footage to a server instead. The dumbass crooks thinking stealing the security video would avoid revealing their identity.
Like I said, the area is getting bad. Shady people is all around. The other night I was at Secret. A guy came in selling hot items, a leather jacket still have a cable with security sensor attached. One time a guy on wheels asked me if I like to buy drugs when I came out from Ashley walking to my car.It's because they tell the person what they want and they go shoplift it just like a personal shopper. Saw a guy bring in sheets for one of the girls one time asking are these the ones you wanted? Brought in clothes in their exact size as well.
It's because they tell the person what they want and they go shoplift it just like a personal shopper. Saw a guy bring in sheets for one of the girls one time asking are these the ones you wanted? Brought in clothes in their exact size as well.Common sense for thieves: if there's a demand or market for items, they going get it; the current down economy fuels it, desperation fulfills it, and no one is the wiser until they get caught. The KBs are heading toward a more "local bar" trend since the AMPs and VBs supply more accessibility to those seeking play; machines adding another layer of addiction. It "ain't what it used to be" and can't see the Return of the KBs soon even with another KB opening. Be careful and take care.
Lualualei808
05-08-19, 08:08
Twilight also got robbed of cash (machines) and liquor about a month ago. Maybe serial thieves or inside jobs because been seeing atypical types entering and drinking at the KBs, day shift; robbing with ease and pinpoint accuracy.Yes I think it is an onside job done by professionals. They exactly where to look and knew they didn't have much time before the officers arrived.
Those shoplifters are an interesting bunch. Make money selling stuff they sold, and the girls still buy them beer and food. One time one of the girls asked me for $20. I asked what for and the reply was just give me $20. It peaked my interest and she came back with a bottle of Duckhorn Cab. WTF! Does the guy have more? She comes back and said give me $30. OK. Silver Oak! Score, and a couple bags of mac nuts. I was apprehensive if the wine went bad from bad handling. I went home and opened the Duckhorn and it was good!
WarriorForLife
05-10-19, 01:46
People selling hot stuffs happen all the time at bars. I would never buy anything from them. Most of these guys stealing to support their addictions.
Be careful, most of the bars minor crimes often are unreported. Crooks come in to the bar to pick on the eldery. Snatch money off table. They often target the girls too, stealing their handbags.
Those shoplifters are an interesting bunch. Make money selling stuff they sold, and the girls still buy them beer and food. One time one of the girls asked me for $20. I asked what for and the reply was just give me $20. It peaked my interest and she came back with a bottle of Duckhorn Cab. WTF! Does the guy have more? She comes back and said give me $30. OK. Silver Oak! Score, and a couple bags of mac nuts. I was apprehensive if the wine went bad from bad handling. I went home and opened the Duckhorn and it was good!
Lualualei808
05-10-19, 06:41
Thru the KBG wireless May 9th.Passed by but the place was not open. Not sure when it will open. Then again with Mimi mama maybe she does not have the money to open.
TomAssCan9
05-15-19, 11:38
Last time I saw him "performing" was several years ago at Safari / Chill, 9-9:30 P; he getting old but the voice and moves still good. If you like speak Russian, go to Lotus for see the Russkis / Hiwis day bartenders from Ashley's; watch out for interference, manipulation, and collusion (and the Mac Daddy who drop them off at work). Odda than that, the KBs are status quo (lifeless and hopeless; in need of rejuvenation). Take it easy.Tanks braddah for the tip on Lotus. I used to go Splash, Ashley a lot but now mostly go regular karaoke bcuz I kno like deal with the beaches sometimes. Just sing and drink.
For those fan club members of Leena previously of You & I, and Aqua, and most recently of Liliac, be advised that she will be at Splash, as the daytime bartender starting today (5/25/19). At present, she will be the daytime bartender from.
Saturday, Sunday, and Monday. Subject to change of course as you know things always change.
If you want great grinds, check her out. Service is reasonably good most of the time with her as well unless she gets too busy and forgets herself.
WarriorForLife
05-27-19, 19:36
KBs are so boring these days, girls just going play Mary go around. Hopping from bar to bar.
I have not go to a KBs for 3 weeks now. So I have nothing new to report. I have not seen any new reports here for a while. Just wonder any actions or places worth to visit.
For those fan club members of Leena previously of You & I, and Aqua, and most recently of Liliac, be advised that she will be at Splash, as the daytime bartender starting today (5/25/19). At present, she will be the daytime bartender from.
Saturday, Sunday, and Monday. Subject to change of course as you know things always change.
If you want great grinds, check her out. Service is reasonably good most of the time with her as well unless she gets too busy and forgets herself.
Has anyone been to 904 since under new management? Funds are tight now, haven't been able to visit any of the bars. Next month will be better, but I don't want to waste my time and money if it's junk.
KBs are so boring these days, girls just going play Mary go around. Hopping from bar to bar.
I have not go to a KBs for 3 weeks now. So I have nothing new to report. I have not seen any new reports here for a while. Just wonder any actions or places worth to visit.I agree with you, haven't been to a KB in about a month. They are just killing the environment of hustle, hustle and more hustle. Hey Opah, buy mama a drink ($40) and buy my "sister" a drink, then buy the waiter a drink, soon enough you could have gone to a AMP from all those charges. Some places like Kalihi Station the girls try to get you to buy Heinikien light for $40 a bottle!
Hey you could get a 12 pack of that at the commisary and still have change for gas. It's all bullshit to spend that kind of money and not get some pussy, may as well go AMP. I only go there to sing and watch eye candy. Once I told some Korean bartendar chick to go and shove it, when she teased me by rubbing her tits and make moaning sounds, but when I tried to feel her up, she gave me the finger bird and say Fuck you. So next time I came by and she started that same BS, told her off in front of the mama and other KB girls.
You got to tell those sharks where to go otherwise they think you're stupid and should be taken to the cleaners.
Stinkfinga
05-28-19, 22:47
I agree with you, haven't been to a KB in about a month. They are just killing the environment of hustle, hustle and more hustle. Hey Opah, buy mama a drink ($40) and buy my "sister" a drink, then buy the waiter a drink, soon enough you could have gone to a AMP from all those charges. Some places like Kalihi Station the girls try to get you to buy Heinikien light for $40 a bottle!
Hey you could get a 12 pack of that at the commisary and still have change for gas. It's all bullshit to spend that kind of money and not get some pussy, may as well go AMP. I only go there to sing and watch eye candy. Once I told some Korean bartendar chick to go and shove it, when she teased me by rubbing her tits and make moaning sounds, but when I tried to feel her up, she gave me the finger bird and say Fuck you. So next time I came by and she started that same BS, told her off in front of the mama and other KB girls.
You got to tell those sharks where to go otherwise they think you're stupid and should be taken to the cleaners.Good for you brother! Glad to read of mongers sticking up for themselves and not putting up with this bargirl bullshit!
Has anyone been to 904 since under new management? Funds are tight now, haven't been able to visit any of the bars. Next month will be better, but I don't want to waste my time and money if it's junk.Same shit as before. Girls came over with Nikki, but still boring.
WarriorForLife
05-29-19, 02:40
Stand your ground is the best to combat these girls. Why should we have to buy mama drinks? She is making money off your drinks, and she is making money when you buy her girls drinks. I can see if mama is nice bring out house pupus. But you seldom see it these days. You need to put $20 up front if you like to grinz.
I have been staying away from KBs over 3 weeks now. And I don't miss it a bit. I always have money in my wallet now, unlike in the past I often go broke a few days after pay day.
$40 green bottle is way over priced. Whoever dreamed up with that got to be money thirst. Girls down these green bottles like they are drinking green tea in record pace. Sometimes I wonder if these drinks have been watered down?
I agree with you, haven't been to a KB in about a month. They are just killing the environment of hustle, hustle and more hustle. Hey Opah, buy mama a drink ($40) and buy my "sister" a drink, then buy the waiter a drink, soon enough you could have gone to a AMP from all those charges. Some places like Kalihi Station the girls try to get you to buy Heinikien light for $40 a bottle!
Hey you could get a 12 pack of that at the commisary and still have change for gas. It's all bullshit to spend that kind of money and not get some pussy, may as well go AMP. I only go there to sing and watch eye candy. Once I told some Korean bartendar chick to go and shove it, when she teased me by rubbing her tits and make moaning sounds, but when I tried to feel her up, she gave me the finger bird and say Fuck you. So next time I came by and she started that same BS, told her off in front of the mama and other KB girls.
You got to tell those sharks where to go otherwise they think you're stupid and should be taken to the cleaners.
Secret Agent
05-29-19, 04:05
Has anyone been to 904 since under new management? Funds are tight now, haven't been able to visit any of the bars. Next month will be better, but I don't want to waste my time and money if it's junk.I just went there with some friends last week. I liked it. The bar counter is big and a little raised above ground level, kind of good size place with 3 dart boards and 2 private rooms. Nikki mama you will recognize her from club 74, summit, business, all over kapiolani area. She brought a bunch of girls from splash and town too. Danbi is there, the blind one. You'll probably recognize others. Had steak and smoked pork when we went. Gets crowded, hardly any young boys here, mostly 40's- 50's and over crowd, which I prefer.
TomAssCan9
05-29-19, 07:05
Has anyone been to 904 since under new management? Funds are tight now, haven't been able to visit any of the bars. Next month will be better, but I don't want to waste my time and money if it's junk.Wea is disnew place at?
I just went there with some friends last week. I liked it. The bar counter is big and a little raised above ground level, kind of good size place with 3 dart boards and 2 private rooms. Nikki mama you will recognize her from club 74, summit, business, all over kapiolani area. She brought a bunch of girls from splash and town too. Danbi is there, the blind one. You'll probably recognize others. Had steak and smoked pork when we went. Gets crowded, hardly any young boys here, mostly 40's- 50's and over crowd, which I prefer.Thanks for the info. I remember Nikki back when she had T-Time.
Secret Agent
05-29-19, 17:42
Wea is disnew place at?Old place, new management. 904 Kohou Street in Kalihi just a little mauka of Starlite Lounge (fka Cheers station).
Liquor Commission and INS are back at it again.
Looks like it's the beginning of the end for Twilight, Hot Spot, Lotus, and that complex housing small businesses; closing scheduled for an August / September timeframe; for the tenants, clear and demo for development. Another wispy bit of info for the Chill turnover: scheduling for the "new opening (with a 'Business'-related new name") is now Wednesday, 05/05/2019; take it for whatever it's worth as no definitive / reliable info for the date has emerged. The loss of Evergreen, Talent, D'amour, Double D, Twilight, Hot Spot, Lotus, etc. , along that line will probably become a windfall for those KBs still standing; as well as an advantage for customers with competing KBGs fighting for the piece-of-the-pie.
WarriorForLife
06-03-19, 04:41
Writing on the wall, just matter of time, only town bars that left standing probably would be Camelot and Splash. But that still not a guarantee.
KBs are boring, no food, no music, girls these days want at least 2 drinks to start any kind of conversation. And if you stop buying they will just hop on to another table.
Anyway, I predict some Kalihi bars will close as well, business are dead all around, too many bars, not enough patrons.
Looks like it's the beginning of the end for Twilight, Hot Spot, Lotus, and that complex housing small businesses; closing scheduled for an August / September timeframe; for the tenants, clear and demo for development. Another wispy bit of info for the Chill turnover: scheduling for the "new opening (with a 'Business'-related new name") is now Wednesday, 05/05/2019; take it for whatever it's worth as no definitive / reliable info for the date has emerged. The loss of Evergreen, Talent, D'amour, Double D, Twilight, Hot Spot, Lotus, etc. , along that line will probably become a windfall for those KBs still standing; as well as an advantage for customers with competing KBGs fighting for the piece-of-the-pie.
Looks like it's the beginning of the end for Twilight, Hot Spot, Lotus, and that complex housing small businesses; closing scheduled for an August / September timeframe; for the tenants, clear and demo for development. Another wispy bit of info for the Chill turnover: scheduling for the "new opening (with a 'Business'-related new name") is now Wednesday, 05/05/2019; take it for whatever it's worth as no definitive / reliable info for the date has emerged. The loss of Evergreen, Talent, D'amour, Double D, Twilight, Hot Spot, Lotus, etc. , along that line will probably become a windfall for those KBs still standing; as well as an advantage for customers with competing KBGs fighting for the piece-of-the-pie.I just heard the same, wed Mimi's new place will be opening. Sounded pretty firm as a number of girls said this was their last week at Ashley's. I noticed Mimi was around again too. I wonder how many girls will remain at Ashley. I also anticipate girls from other bars like lotus will be making the move. Next week should be interesting as I anticipate some bars will take a huge business cut.
Writing on the wall, just matter of time, only town bars that left standing probably would be Camelot and Splash. But that still not a guarantee.
KBs are boring, no food, no music, girls these days want at least 2 drinks to start any kind of conversation. And if you stop buying they will just hop on to another table.
Anyway, I predict some Kalihi bars will close as well, business are dead all around, too many bars, not enough patrons.Why is Ashleys Place for sale? She probably wants to reel in a sucka partner, like she did before and kept the money.
LVB mongers have the power, but running out of playground. Support your local, friendly KB (misnomer).
I just heard the same, wed Mimi's new place will be opening. Sounded pretty firm as a number of girls said this was their last week at Ashley's. Next week should be interesting as I anticipate some bars will take a huge business cut.IMO, the Old Chill New Business should reap the most advantage of all the KBs in the area due to its expansive parking lot and accessibility via bus line. Splash / Ashley would be second best depending upon which route is used, and Camelot (too large)/ Xclusive as secondary venues (due to limited parking) for folks who no like crowded places. If had bus route along Sheridan (never going happen) then that would be the equalizer for KBs in the area. Of course, "where the KBGs are" is always the difference; wherever get the bestest KBGs going get the mostest business. Some KB operators getting all grouchy about their situation.
I thought Kalihi was going to be the next Kapiolani?
IMO, the Old Chill New Business should reap the most advantage of all the KBs in the area due to its expansive parking lot and accessibility via bus line. Splash / Ashley would be second best depending upon which route is used, and Camelot (too large)/ Xclusive as secondary venues (due to limited parking) for folks who no like crowded places. If had bus route along Sheridan (never going happen) then that would be the equalizer for KBs in the area. Of course, "where the KBGs are" is always the difference; wherever get the bestest KBGs going get the mostest business. Some KB operators getting all grouchy about their situation.
I thought Kalihi was going to be the next Kapiolani?Kalihi will be the new Kapiolani in 2-3 years. By that time, Ashleys and possibly New Business will be torn down for condos. Not sure about the Camelot complex, but who wants to be next to a dairy processor that delivers in the early morning hours. The big winner would be Splash.
WarriorForLife
06-04-19, 15:42
Yes when is all said and done, Camelot and Splash might be the only ones left standing in town. Kalihi might be the next kapiolani. However their business might take a toll when the rail construction moving downtown. Lots of road closure at night.
Major project of moving electric wiring underground and relocation of sewer. Many Pearl City business suffered big loss and some forced to close when the project was done in that area. One note PC did not even have to relocate electric cables and sewer.
Kalihi will be the new Kapiolani in 2-3 years. By that time, Ashleys and possibly New Business will be torn down for condos. Not sure about the Camelot complex, but who wants to be next to a dairy processor that delivers in the early morning hours. The big winner would be Splash.
Lualualei808
06-04-19, 21:19
Liquor Commission and INS are back at it again.Thru the KBG wireless the old Club 74 got raided by INS recently.
Why is Ashleys Place for sale? She probably wants to reel in a sucka partner, like she did before and kept the money.
LVB mongers have the power, but running out of playground. Support your local, friendly KB (misnomer).Rent is too high. In today's time paying $20 k+ / month for rent is too difficult, but there will always be a sucker mama that thinks she can make it. Back in the day it was doable, but not now.
Thru the KBG wireless the old Club 74 got raided by INS recently.Are you sure about the name? 74 was demolished along with Evergreen, last year.
Liampark808
06-05-19, 08:06
Thru the KBG wireless the old Club 74 got raided by INS recently.Might want to check your source again. I don't think the building that Club 74 was in is even there anymore.
Are you sure about the name? 74 was demolished along with Evergreen, last year.Heard from my Mama friend it was 904 no one was written up all had green card.
TomAssCan9
06-05-19, 18:11
Heard from my Mama friend it was 904 no one was written up all had green card.Where displace 904 located? I like sing drinking karaoke. My ex giving me stress. Is dis 904 one karaoke place?
Someday even Kalihi is going to get redeveloped. Most of the Kalihi KBs sit on KSBE land, and as the 60 and 80 year leases expire, KSBE plans to develop high-density mixed-used residential / retail buildings all along the rail corridor.
Take a look at this rendering along Kapalama Canal!
https://www.ksbe.edu/imua/article/kapalama-kai-envisions-an-innovative-mixed-use-community-for-kamaaaina-in/
Bye bye Kalihi Station, Starlite, 904, K-Syle, Spotlite, Cleopatra, Blue Star et al. The 5-plex and Vegas / Aqua are on KSBE land, but it doesn't look like they will get redeveloped in this Kapalama Kai community.
I think Pearl Kai Shopping Center (and the KBs therein) is on KSBE land, too. But that lease won't be expiring anytime soon.
Let's see if an enterprising Mama and her silent LVB partners can open a KB in Ward Village. If that happens, then we will know that the KBs will survive for another generation.
WarriorForLife
06-06-19, 01:58
Staying away from KBs for over 3 weeks. Have not seen or talk to my honey Fox for a while, anyone know how she is doing these days?
Lualualei808
06-06-19, 07:18
Are you sure about the name? 74 was demolished along with Evergreen, last year.Sorry it was 904.
Kalihi will be the new Kapiolani in 2-3 years. By that time, Ashleys and possibly New Business will be torn down for condos. Not sure about the Camelot complex, but who wants to be next to a dairy processor that delivers in the early morning hours. The big winner would be Splash.Highly doubt kalihi will ever reach the town bars limits unless the whole town gets a huge makeover. The hardcore kB clientele just isn't big enough to support the business. I hope I don't offend anyone, but reality is majority of the kalihi residents is not the type of clientele that will give good business let alone stability. Already as it is lot of kalihi bars are closing their doors on weekdays at 1 because business is that slow and they know after a certain point there is no possibility of customers. Got to wonder how they making ends meet as it is. Weekends are super busy for some but weekdays is extremely bad. All in all we'll just have to see what type of businesses these new condos will allow on their bottom floors. If anything I foresee things start shifting closer to the King st area and making its way down towards university.
Highly doubt kalihi will ever reach the town bars limits unless the whole town gets a huge makeover. The hardcore kB clientele just isn't big enough to support the business. I hope I don't offend anyone, but reality is majority of the kalihi residents is not the type of clientele that will give good business let alone stability. Already as it is lot of kalihi bars are closing their doors on weekdays at 1 because business is that slow and they know after a certain point there is no possibility of customers. Got to wonder how they making ends meet as it is. Weekends are super busy for some but weekdays is extremely bad. All in all we'll just have to see what type of businesses these new condos will allow on their bottom floors. If anything I foresee things start shifting closer to the King st area and making its way down towards university.Kalihi will never reach the town limits, but when there are only 2 KBs in town, Kalihi will be the prime mover. As for moving to King St and the university are, I would have to disagree. To open up a new bar, especially a hostess bar is difficult at best. IIRC, there is a distance requirement from residences that must be met. In the King St and university area, it would prove to be very difficult.
White Lava
06-06-19, 16:16
Any "Mimi" spotting lately? Checked at 904- no sign of her! PM is OK!
WarriorForLife
06-06-19, 19:26
Town side clientele don't have any choice to move west if there is only 2 bars left standing. As far as we know Camelot and Splash are in the safe zone as of now, all other bars in the area are on the demo list.
Kalihi bars probably will shrinking down to a few, there just isn't enough interest of bar hopping these days. Business are getting less and less patrons and most of the big sharks are long gone.
Highly doubt kalihi will ever reach the town bars limits unless the whole town gets a huge makeover. The hardcore kB clientele just isn't big enough to support the business. I hope I don't offend anyone, but reality is majority of the kalihi residents is not the type of clientele that will give good business let alone stability. Already as it is lot of kalihi bars are closing their doors on weekdays at 1 because business is that slow and they know after a certain point there is no possibility of customers. Got to wonder how they making ends meet as it is. Weekends are super busy for some but weekdays is extremely bad. All in all we'll just have to see what type of businesses these new condos will allow on their bottom floors. If anything I foresee things start shifting closer to the King st area and making its way down towards university.
TomAssCan9
06-07-19, 01:36
Town side clientele don't have any choice to move west if there is only 2 bars left standing. As far as we know Camelot and Splash are in the safe zone as of now, all other bars in the area are on the demo list.
Kalihi bars probably will shrinking down to a few, there just isn't enough interest of bar hopping these days. Business are getting less and less patrons and most of the big sharks are long gone.Maybe bars can pop up in Kapolei the seconds city.
Viet Whisperer
06-07-19, 08:02
Highly doubt kalihi will ever reach the town bars limits unless the whole town gets a huge makeover. The hardcore kB clientele just isn't big enough to support the business. I hope I don't offend anyone, but reality is majority of the kalihi residents is not the type of clientele that will give good business let alone stability. Already as it is lot of kalihi bars are closing their doors on weekdays at 1 because business is that slow and they know after a certain point there is no possibility of customers. Got to wonder how they making ends meet as it is. Weekends are super busy for some but weekdays is extremely bad. All in all we'll just have to see what type of businesses these new condos will allow on their bottom floors. If anything I foresee things start shifting closer to the King st area and making its way down towards university.Fundamental problem is that the clientele for these places is aging and going away. These places aren't attracting any new patrons and younger guys aren't replacing the clientele being lost. Younger guys are spending money at places like Club Melo which is full of young college girls who will suck dick or do take out much quicker and easier than a kbar girl will. Ballerinas is the same situation for the most part with plenty take out available.
Fundamental problem is that the clientele for these places is aging and going away. These places aren't attracting any new patrons and younger guys aren't replacing the clientele being lost.Yups, the KBs need to change their current image / model to attract replacement LVBs and keep current 'aging and going away' clientele. How they going do this with other viable (AMPs; the aforementioned Club Melo, Ballerina, etc.) venues to look for chicks; not to mention changes in attitude, priority, and sensibility of younger (and current veteran KB) guys whose views of the KBs have changed due to generation, lifestyle, and experience?
The world and its attitudes are obviously changing, so must the KBs. Or just keep the simple formula that works: debauchery?
Fundamental problem is that the clientele for these places is aging and going away. These places aren't attracting any new patrons and younger guys aren't replacing the clientele being lost. Younger guys are spending money at places like Club Melo which is full of young college girls who will suck dick or do take out much quicker and easier than a kbar girl will. Ballerinas is the same situation for the most part with plenty take out available.That is the correct business plan, put out or close. The other problem is the old hags in Kalihi and daytime Kapiolani, they need to pay me, and even then I would be picky.
Someday even Kalihi is going to get redeveloped. Most of the Kalihi KBs sit on KSBE land, and as the 60 and 80 year leases expire, KSBE plans to develop high-density mixed-used residential / retail buildings all along the rail corridor.
Take a look at this rendering along Kapalama Canal!
https://www.ksbe.edu/imua/article/kapalama-kai-envisions-an-innovative-mixed-use-community-for-kamaaaina-in/
Bye bye Kalihi Station, Starlite, 904, K-Syle, Spotlite, Cleopatra, Blue Star et al. The 5-plex and Vegas / Aqua are on KSBE land, but it doesn't look like they will get redeveloped in this Kapalama Kai community.
I think Pearl Kai Shopping Center (and the KBs therein) is on KSBE land, too. But that lease won't be expiring anytime soon.
Let's see if an enterprising Mama and her silent LVB partners can open a KB in Ward Village. If that happens, then we will know that the KBs will survive for another generation.Check out the Two Tides bar in Whole Foods. Happy Hour beer is $2. A nice place to drink and watch the wildlife. However, nobody is drinking. Young people sit two or three at a table but don't drink. Don't interact. Just stare at their phones or computer. If this is what the future is like in Kakaako, then bars are doomed. I don’t know what it’s like late night but at 4pm my bud and I are the only ones drinking and the place is full of youngsters.
Sam Kanigawa
06-07-19, 13:57
Where is club mello.
BeaverLiquor
06-07-19, 16:21
I think it is where jazz minds, akasaka and happy nites (old LAP) is.
Where is club mello.
Staying away from KBs for over 3 weeks. Have not seen or talk to my honey Fox for a while, anyone know how she is doing these days?Seen her Monday night at 904 as a civilian. I was accosted and molested by her to and from the restroom and as always I kick her to the curb.
Anybody went to the new "Chill" opening?
Anybody went to the new "Chill" opening?I just dropped by to see if they were really open. There was one table occupied. Happy Hour from 12 to 7. Beer is $3.
WarriorForLife
06-07-19, 19:09
The place used to be the busiest bar in town, one table occupied on an opening night, sad case!
I just dropped by to see if they were really open. There was one table occupied. Happy Hour from 12 to 7. Beer is $3..
WarriorForLife
06-07-19, 19:13
Fox is Fox, she loves to keep moving from bar to bar. Whether it is on the clock or just shooting the shit with friends as cilivian. She enjoying it.
Seen her Monday night at 904 as a civilian. I was accosted and molested by her to and from the restroom and as always I kick her to the curb..
WarriorForLife
06-07-19, 19:29
It is going to come down to. As older generation moving on, younger drinkers stay in bars where they can chat with pretty women and able to hunt for some free pussy. No need to deal with $20 buy me drinkies and put up all these BS.
KBs era are dying, have you seen any big sharks spending $500 a night at KBs anymore? They have wised up or dried up. Many of these low budget drinkers still around, one or two beer they are out the door, KBGs are sure not making any money from them.
Check out the Two Tides bar in Whole Foods. Happy Hour beer is $2. A nice place to drink and watch the wildlife. However, nobody is drinking. Young people sit two or three at a table but don't drink. Don't interact. Just stare at their phones or computer. If this is what the future is like in Kakaako, then bars are doomed. I dont know what its like late night but at 4pm my bud and I are the only ones drinking and the place is full of youngsters.
JackMayhoff
06-07-19, 21:25
Where is club mello.FYI, there's a $7 cover charge, which is dumb because if its a hostess bar then you going to be buying $20 over-price drinks already. Why should we pay to get into somewhere they going to overcharge us anyway. Back in the day, when they had $1 drinks at Mooses, I get that they charge a cover, but not at a hostess bar. Owner is a former bargirl, that's why.
Michelle's tried to charge cover and it closed up soon after. People don't learn from history.
Idusixtyning
06-07-19, 22:06
Fundamental problem is that the clientele for these places is aging and going away. These places aren't attracting any new patrons and younger guys aren't replacing the clientele being lost. Younger guys are spending money at places like Club Melo which is full of young college girls who will suck dick or do take out much quicker and easier than a kbar girl will. Ballerinas is the same situation for the most part with plenty take out available.
Yups, the KBs need to change their current image / model to attract replacement LVBs and keep current 'aging and going away' clientele. How they going do this with other viable (AMPs; the aforementioned Club Melo, Ballerina, etc.) venues to look for chicks; not to mention changes in attitude, priority, and sensibility of younger (and current veteran KB) guys whose views of the KBs have changed due to generation, lifestyle, and experience?
The world and its attitudes are obviously changing, so must the KBs. Or just keep the simple formula that works: debauchery?Yes, debauchery and available play would bring in more business. I'd go if there was a KBG like the old Yokohama. The KBGs need to realize that as more and more of the old-time LVBs are getting too old to visit the KBs that they can't get away with playing the same games with the later generations. The later generations have a better sense of value and see the KBGs as they really are. The advent of easily accessible play through AMPs and escorts with online information took away a primary reason for guys going to KBs for play. When I used to go to the KB's it would be with the intent to get into a KBG's pants and most likely after spending a lot of money and time (with no guarantee too). I mean who has the money to waste just to sit and talk to a KBG over $20 or $40 drinks every 10 minutes and whose only loyalty is to money.
Old Island Boy
06-08-19, 05:51
It is going to come down to. As older generation moving on, younger drinkers stay in bars where they can chat with pretty women and able to hunt for some free pussy. No need to deal with $20 buy me drinkies and put up all these BS.
KBs era are dying, have you seen any big sharks spending $500 a night at KBs anymore? They have wised up or dried up. Many of these low budget drinkers still around, one or two beer they are out the door, KBGs are sure not making any money from them.Most of those big spenders are dead. That's what happens to old guys.
Town side clientele don't have any choice to move west if there is only 2 bars left standing. As far as we know Camelot and Splash are in the safe zone as of now, all other bars in the area are on the demo list.
Kalihi bars probably will shrinking down to a few, there just isn't enough interest of bar hopping these days. Business are getting less and less patrons and most of the big sharks are long gone.Well you'd be fooling yourselves if you think out west is where it's going to be. Not saying it's impossible, but as of now lot of businesses outside of the kb are even hesitant. D&B pulled out and they only got one other location on the island. Basically we going have to see another Waikiki open up out west before we can see any signs of the bar industry prospering out there.
Viet Whisperer
06-09-19, 05:42
FYI, there's a $7 cover charge, which is dumb because if its a hostess bar then you going to be buying $20 over-price drinks already. Why should we pay to get into somewhere they going to overcharge us anyway. Back in the day, when they had $1 drinks at Mooses, I get that they charge a cover, but not at a hostess bar. Owner is a former bargirl, that's why.
Michelle's tried to charge cover and it closed up soon after. People don't learn from history.Yes there is a cover that includes one drink so not that big a deal in my opinion. Michelle's was a hot mess of constant fights and problems also. Disagree that the cover was what led to their demise.
Thumperforq
06-09-19, 06:15
FYI, there's a $7 cover charge, which is dumb because if its a hostess bar then you going to be buying $20 over-price drinks already. Why should we pay to get into somewhere they going to overcharge us anyway. Back in the day, when they had $1 drinks at Mooses, I get that they charge a cover, but not at a hostess bar. Owner is a former bargirl, that's why.
Michelle's tried to charge cover and it closed up soon after. People don't learn from history.She copying Lyna and Tiffany. This is the Kiddie Bar model, that works very well with the niteclub crowd.
Most of those big spenders are dead. That's what happens to old guys.That is correct. Many have passed on, others have health issues, or are incapacitated, so they do not come out. Some like myself are tired of the BS, and find it quite boring. It is more enjoyable to talk to the bartender or bar backs, than the hostesses. I fear this may actually be the death knell to the bars. I've been through the phase of Vietnamese bars and kiddie bars and the KBs survived. The proliferation of AMPs in the 90's and up to now, have taken their toll on the KBs, but they still survived. There is no new generation that will take over. Nowdays, going out is a group activity, not necessarily a one on one experience. The money to be had from building luxury condos is the final blow. Knock down KBs and put up a condo, easy money!
BeaverLiquor
06-09-19, 13:51
I wish I could remember what movie or TV show I heard that from. But I think it was a cop (could have even been the crook) talking to his partner about a crime scene frustrated and complaining that people don't know their jobs anymore. Implying that when you rob somebody, you rob them. You don't kill them.
I wish I could remember the movie and how the scene went. But that's what I remember about it, and that's how I feel about the KB's.
The girls just don't know their jobs anymore. Yeah we go to the KB's to drink and the food. But we also want a little thrill and a little grab-ass (and hopefully more) too. It seems most of the wahines in the bar have forgotten that part. I hate it when the wahines get all offended when you try to get a little touchy feely. Hey that's what I'm paying $20 for a drink for. Not just the "privilege" of talking to you.
That is correct. Many have passed on, others have health issues, or are incapacitated, so they do not come out. Some like myself are tired of the BS, and find it quite boring. It is more enjoyable to talk to the bartender or bar backs, than the hostesses. I fear this may actually be the death knell to the bars. I've been through the phase of Vietnamese bars and kiddie bars and the KBs survived. The proliferation of AMPs in the 90's and up to now, have taken their toll on the KBs, but they still survived. There is no new generation that will take over. Nowdays, going out is a group activity, not necessarily a one on one experience. The money to be had from building luxury condos is the final blow. Knock down KBs and put up a condo, easy money!
WarriorForLife
06-09-19, 19:37
One night I was sitting at the bar, saw this old man tried to do some touchie touchie at the booth to this young princess. He got slapped so hard by her. He wanted to cry by his expression on his face. He got up and left without saying a word.
I wish I could remember what movie or TV show I heard that from. But I think it was a cop (could have even been the crook) talking to his partner about a crime scene frustrated and complaining that people don't know their jobs anymore. Implying that when you rob somebody, you rob them. You don't kill them.
I wish I could remember the movie and how the scene went. But that's what I remember about it, and that's how I feel about the KB's.
The girls just don't know their jobs anymore. Yeah we go to the KB's to drink and the food. But we also want a little thrill and a little grab-ass (and hopefully more) too. It seems most of the wahines in the bar have forgotten that part. I hate it when the wahines get all offended when you try to get a little touchy feely. Hey that's what I'm paying $20 for a drink for. Not just the "privilege" of talking to you..
I wish I could remember what movie or TV show I heard that from. But I think it was a cop (could have even been the crook) talking to his partner about a crime scene frustrated and complaining that people don't know their jobs anymore. Implying that when you rob somebody, you rob them. You don't kill them.
I wish I could remember the movie and how the scene went. But that's what I remember about it, and that's how I feel about the KB's.
The girls just don't know their jobs anymore. Yeah we go to the KB's to drink and the food. But we also want a little thrill and a little grab-ass (and hopefully more) too. It seems most of the wahines in the bar have forgotten that part. I hate it when the wahines get all offended when you try to get a little touchy feely. Hey that's what I'm paying $20 for a drink for. Not just the "privilege" of talking to you.
One night I was sitting at the bar, saw this old man tried to do some touchie touchie at the booth to this young princess. He got slapped so hard by her. He wanted to cry by his expression on his face. He got up and left without saying a word.
.Maybe a little grab ass, but it should be mutually agreed upon. In this day and age of #METOO, you need to be careful. There are those that allow that kind of play, and there are those that do not. If you want play, you need to choose wisely. The girls are hostesses, not prostitutes.
Old Island Boy
06-10-19, 05:15
That is correct. Many have passed on, others have health issues, or are incapacitated, so they do not come out. Some like myself are tired of the BS, and find it quite boring. It is more enjoyable to talk to the bartender or bar backs, than the hostesses. I fear this may actually be the death knell to the bars. I've been through the phase of Vietnamese bars and kiddie bars and the KBs survived. The proliferation of AMPs in the 90's and up to now, have taken their toll on the KBs, but they still survived. There is no new generation that will take over. Nowdays, going out is a group activity, not necessarily a one on one experience. The money to be had from building luxury condos is the final blow. Knock down KBs and put up a condo, easy money!The window is closing on this era. It was an interesting human interaction spectacle.
But the beer prices have gone up and the bars are getting torn down. These are dive bars, they need low-rent spaces, they don't fit in classy environments. By the time I started going to the K-bars, many of the ladies were already leaving the business.
You knew this day was coming.
Checked out Mimi's new place Friday. Place has a huge makeover, there's 2 bars similar to how splash is. There's also a sushi bar spot for Mori san. As a result of the extra bar, there's little less booths. I believe the kitchen also got little smaller because of the bathroom renovations. I went considerably late but place was still pretty busy. The bars were full, with a few booths open. Barbacks had to step away though to help with waiting duties. Roughly all the girls and staff and then some with Mimi back at Camelot were there. Supposedly she has a staff total of 40 people. Only other bar I got to hit up that night was Ashley, and they really took a hit. Only about 6 girls were left there and many open booths. Anyway, to my understanding this week was only a soft opening and the grand has yet tba. Still a 2 am bar though, which really doesn't help the industry much. But at least we have one more option now with girls on the younger side.
TomAssCan9
06-10-19, 06:40
Checked out Mimi's new place Friday. Place has a huge makeover, there's 2 bars similar to how splash is. There's also a sushi bar spot for Mori san. As a result of the extra bar, there's little less booths. I believe the kitchen also got little smaller because of the bathroom renovations. I went considerably late but place was still pretty busy. The bars were full, with a few booths open. Barbacks had to step away though to help with waiting duties. Roughly all the girls and staff and then some with Mimi back at Camelot were there. Supposedly she has a staff total of 40 people. Only other bar I got to hit up that night was Ashley, and they really took a hit. Only about 6 girls were left there and many open booths. Anyway, to my understanding this week was only a soft opening and the grand has yet tba. Still a 2 am bar though, which really doesn't help the industry much. But at least we have one more option now with girls on the younger side.Wea exactly is displace? Do they have karaoke new song titles like Luis Fonsi? Howz the girls. Jet play? Private rooms?
Checked out Mimi's new place Friday. Place has a huge makeover, there's 2 bars similar to how splash is. There's also a sushi bar spot for Mori san. As a result of the extra bar, there's little less booths. I believe the kitchen also got little smaller because of the bathroom renovations. I went considerably late but place was still pretty busy. The bars were full, with a few booths open. Barbacks had to step away though to help with waiting duties. Roughly all the girls and staff and then some with Mimi back at Camelot were there. Supposedly she has a staff total of 40 people. Only other bar I got to hit up that night was Ashley, and they really took a hit. Only about 6 girls were left there and many open booths. Anyway, to my understanding this week was only a soft opening and the grand has yet tba. Still a 2 am bar though, which really doesn't help the industry much. But at least we have one more option now with girls on the younger side.What's the location on this, I don't go bar hopping to much as getting drunk has become an expensive affair these last few years LOL but looking for nice spot to chill with some pals.
Checked out Mimi's new place Friday. Place has a huge makeover, there's 2 bars similar to how splash is. There's also a sushi bar spot for Mori san.Thanks for the good report on New Business. I'm trying not to think that it's a copycat business model of Evergreen and Splash in order to create a third. Anyway, the spot is currently popular with most because of its novelty in the area; heard that the parking lot is deceptively ample because only a few stalls are designated 'free' parking for New Business (pay to park for other stalls). Good location at the Ewa-side, Kapiolani / Sheridan / Makaloa horn.
Will not go there until he first month after the place has played itself out.
Thanks for the good report on New Business. I'm trying not to think that it's a copycat business model of Evergreen and Splash in order to create a third. Anyway, the spot is currently popular with most because of its novelty in the area; heard that the parking lot is deceptively ample because only a few stalls are designated 'free' parking for New Business (pay to park for other stalls). Good location at the Ewa-side, Kapiolani / Sheridan / Makaloa horn.
Will not go there until he first month after the place has played itself out.Well it's Mimi's place, so it would only be natural she going try recreate what she had at EG. To my understanding ever since EG closed, lot of girls have been waiting for her to open a new bigger place. Only a handful were able to make it with her to Camelot and even less to Ashley. Now that it's finally here it'll be interesting how many will pop up again. As far as the parking goes, valet was available, but street parking was also easy as usual. But I guess that's just a matter of luck on the time and day you go. I imagine valet duty will only be available on the weekends.
What's the location on this, I don't go bar hopping to much as getting drunk has become an expensive affair these last few years LOL but looking for nice spot to chill with some pals.What use to be chill, on Kapiolani. Right next door to kings restaurant.
DreadNaught
06-13-19, 04:32
FYI -.
Sunflower in Pearl City having an anniversary party. Thursday and Friday, June 20-21.
- DN.
With the dearth of KBs, I wonder what will fill the gap? I like the idea of the Vietnamese coffee shop model, but it has to be done right. We had one in downtown, but it fronted for a gaming establishment. With gaming establishments, come the unsavory types that will cause problems. Those bikini coffee trucks were pretty cool in their day, but I think we are ready for some bikini coffee shops in Honolulu.
WarriorForLife
06-15-19, 01:19
You are right about the death of KBs. I don't think there is any way to rejuvenate it. With all these talks about this new bar " NB". So I decided to go check it out myself one evening. 5 guys was drinking at the bar. No one was at the booth. The only working girl there was the bartender. Asked her when is the girls coming in? She replied later. Let me tell you what, the most exciting thing I have notice was, they have a 250 gallons salt water tank with beautiful fishes in there to prevent me falling asleep. After couple of drinks, I was so bored I decided to check out Ashley. Grandma Leeann came hustle me for a drink. I refused it knowing her BS. Two other older women was also there. That place reminded me a senior retirement home.
Be careful with the parking situation at NB. The designated parking stalls are only for NB patrons. All other cars will be towed away according to the big sign posted at the main entrance.
With the dearth of KBs, I wonder what will fill the gap? I like the idea of the Vietnamese coffee shop model, but it has to be done right. We had one in downtown, but it fronted for a gaming establishment. With gaming establishments, come the unsavory types that will cause problems. Those bikini coffee trucks were pretty cool in their day, but I think we are ready for some bikini coffee shops in Honolulu.
You are right about the death of KBs. I don't think there is any way to rejuvenate it. With all these talks about this new bar " NB". So I decided to go check it out myself one evening. 5 guys was drinking at the bar. No one was at the booth. The only working girl there was the bartender. Asked her when is the girls coming in? She replied later. Let me tell you what, the most exciting thing I have notice was, they have a 250 gallons salt water tank with beautiful fishes in there to prevent me falling asleep. After couple of drinks, I was so bored I decided to check out Ashley. Grandma Leeann came hustle me for a drink. I refused it knowing her BS. Two other older women was also there. That place reminded me a senior retirement home.
Be careful with the parking situation at NB. The designated parking stalls are only for NB patrons. All other cars will be towed away according to the big sign posted at the main entrance.Sounds like NB not going to last no big spenders just cheap Charlie LOL.
TomAssCan9
06-15-19, 07:38
Samg sum karaoke duh other night, den went to Asian spa to shoot my load in JJ. JJ is a MILF. Little bit chunk but not fat. Pussy is wet. Cum inside deep.
With the dearth of KBs, I wonder what will fill the gap? I like the idea of the Vietnamese coffee shop model, but it has to be done right. We had one in downtown, but it fronted for a gaming establishment. With gaming establishments, come the unsavory types that will cause problems. Those bikini coffee trucks were pretty cool in their day, but I think we are ready for some bikini coffee shops in Honolulu.There really is nothing to replace it until this whole PC attitude in society disappears. The bar industry period is kind of dying. Nightclubs are almost fading away with strip clubs following right behind. The V coffee shop craze in Cali isn't like what it use to be. It's really kind of amazing they're still alive because it really slowed down last I saw almost 4 years ago.
Idusixtyning
06-15-19, 16:11
With the dearth of KBs, I wonder what will fill the gap? I like the idea of the Vietnamese coffee shop model, but it has to be done right. We had one in downtown, but it fronted for a gaming establishment. With gaming establishments, come the unsavory types that will cause problems. Those bikini coffee trucks were pretty cool in their day, but I think we are ready for some bikini coffee shops in Honolulu.The KB's and the KBGs priced theirselves out of the entertainment market combined with the loss of aging loyal customers. They'll have to do something different. Maybe a KB with live girls in bikinis or lingerie dancing every half hour or so on a couple of small stages could pull in customers. Maybe charge a 2 drink door entry fee. And hire KBGs that are not ROBs.
TomAssCan9
06-15-19, 16:48
There really is nothing to replace it until this whole PC attitude in society disappears. The bar industry period is kind of dying. Nightclubs are almost fading away with strip clubs following right behind. The V coffee shop craze in Cali isn't like what it use to be. It's really kind of amazing they're still alive because it really slowed down last I saw almost 4 years ago.Yah looks like dey going die out soon. That is why, I going after the concert. The after party is better to get drunk. Coke! Uber or ride bike to get my sausage jerked off after I drunk. Make nicole ginger my ass and jerk me.
WarriorForLife
06-15-19, 19:53
According to one poster here that big spenders are all dead. NBA season just pau. Football season no start until August. It is going to be long months ahead for the KBs. Cheap Charlie still around. But KBGs no approach them cause the girls rather playing with the phone than wasting their time on them.
Sounds like NB not going to last no big spenders just cheap Charlie LOL.
Viet Whisperer
06-16-19, 17:27
Yah looks like dey going die out soon. That is why, I going after the concert. The after party is better to get drunk. Coke! Uber or ride bike to get my sausage jerked off after I drunk. Make nicole ginger my ass and jerk me.This post made me laugh. Which Nicole fingers your ass LOL? The one at Camelot? Asking for a friend haha!
WarriorForLife
06-16-19, 20:45
Haha, understand KBs are having hard times, but ass job at KBs are to an extreme and almost unhearded of. Good laugh is okay since there is nothing excited to report these days.
This post made me laugh. Which Nicole fingers your ass LOL? The one at Camelot? Asking for a friend haha!
The KB's and the KBGs priced theirselves out of the entertainment market combined with the loss of aging loyal customers. They'll have to do something different. Maybe a KB with live girls in bikinis or lingerie dancing every half hour or so on a couple of small stages could pull in customers. Maybe charge a 2 drink door entry fee. And hire KBGs that are not ROBs.Mimi tried something like that once. Back when she opened up Business near the market on Keeaumoku. She split the place with Lina (vbar mama). Place was happening for a couple months, but eventually just turned out to be a fad. I personally thought being relatively far from the strip at the time is what hurt it. Of course too a place catering to the immature and over mature crowd was also not appreciated by lot of people.
So checked out couple places in town this weekend to see how Business changes the landscape. Went to Lotus, Ellie lost some girls but seems Sandra brought in some Kalihi women. Place took a hit from Business but could've been a lot worse. Seemed all things considered they were doing somewhat ok for a Saturday night. I guess the place will transform more into kalihi style somewhat, which is good if it'll keep some loyal consistently. On to Business, place was happening. Had a few booths open but bars including sushi were filled to capacity with people also standing. Atmosphere and crowd was really like late night evergreen which haven't seen in a super long time. Heard the place was slow for a good portion of the night but huge waves suddenly came in. By the time I came in the rush already started. Had some big parties and I guess the girls were at least doing somewhat ok. But you can tell by the karaoke singing and stuff at least people were having a good time. Which in the end is really what matters. Its been a super long time since I seen that kind of atmosphere in a kB. Even other bars when busy don't get quite like that. Just really sucks the place isn't till 4 am. Right now town really needs a 4 am kb because that's the girls second chance to make some money. At the end of the night I made my way to Leslie's to have one more drink. Absolutely nothing to report. I'll probably checkout splash and business again this weekend. If have time maybe I'll also check Camelot, but I know there will be nothing to report there. Last I saw place for the most is meant to cater to Korean nationals.
WarriorForLife
06-20-19, 05:28
No girls was there when I went there around 5. The girls must have been shown up late.
So checked out couple places in town this weekend to see how Business changes the landscape. Went to Lotus, Ellie lost some girls but seems Sandra brought in some Kalihi women. Place took a hit from Business but could've been a lot worse. Seemed all things considered they were doing somewhat ok for a Saturday night. I guess the place will transform more into kalihi style somewhat, which is good if it'll keep some loyal consistently. On to Business, place was happening. Had a few booths open but bars including sushi were filled to capacity with people also standing. Atmosphere and crowd was really like late night evergreen which haven't seen in a super long time. Heard the place was slow for a good portion of the night but huge waves suddenly came in. By the time I came in the rush already started. Had some big parties and I guess the girls were at least doing somewhat ok. But you can tell by the karaoke singing and stuff at least people were having a good time. Which in the end is really what matters. Its been a super long time since I seen that kind of atmosphere in a kB. Even other bars when busy don't get quite like that. Just really sucks the place isn't till 4 am. Right now town really needs a 4 am kb because that's the girls second chance to make some money. At the end of the night I made my way to Leslie's to have one more drink. Absolutely nothing to report. I'll probably checkout splash and business again this weekend. If have time maybe I'll also check Camelot, but I know there will be nothing to report there. Last I saw place for the most is meant to cater to Korean nationals.
No girls was there when I went there around 5. The girls must have been shown up late.Went out to the KBs this week and found that Splash, Club 904 and Lilac were quite busy in the early evening hours. It seems like a lot of the girls are moving back to Splash. Not sure if the other bars are really slow these days.
No girls was there when I went there around 5. The girls must have been shown up late.Of course around 5 there's going to be no girls. Hell restaurants haven't even started their rush yet. Girls don't come in till 7-9 o'clock. Mamas don't even come in till at least 6. Town more so than ever is strictly evening spot. The only time you'll find girls during the day is SB.
This weekend decided to checkout splash. Heard they were somewhat busy early in the evening. When I got there wasn't bad, was at least steady. There seems to be an increase in girls compared to what they had the past couple months. All on the slightly older side though, but not too old. Then made my way to Business to end the evening. Noticed Ashley's lot was empty but street parking this time around was pretty limited. Anyway, Business was fairly busy nothing too outrageous but steady. Had a domestic incident with some customers, but nothing too crazy. I mean this place caters to all sorts of people including youngins, so I guess crazy incidents is bound to happen time to time. Supposedly other bars are starting to blame Business for their lack of business. Don't know how true it is, but I'm not a least bit shocked. I think that will pretty much complete my reports for now since I more or less got to hit up all the places that mattered. All in all Business is the place to be for now. Will be interesting to see in the future if place gains more or loses momentum. Difference for Mimi this time around is her place is in a league of its own. Perhaps in time other places will change for the better.
WarriorForLife
06-23-19, 20:20
Where are the golfers? Guess they are all dead too along with the big spenders. Back in the old days, Camelot, Ashley and Chill were loaded with golfers and pau hana drinkers around 5. Girls would come in early to take care of them.
Not anymore. Let's say time has changed and drinkers moving on.
Of course around 5 there's going to be no girls. Hell restaurants haven't even started their rush yet. Girls don't come in till 7-9 o'clock. Mamas don't even come in till at least 6. Town more so than ever is strictly evening spot. The only time you'll find girls during the day is SB.
Where are the golfers? Guess they are all dead too along with the big spenders. Back in the old days, Camelot, Ashley and Chill were loaded with golfers and pau hana drinkers around 5. Girls would come in early to take care of them.
Not anymore. Let's say time has changed and drinkers moving on.You're talking about a small group that wasn't even everyday. For out in town, there was also girls specifically scheduled for the afternoon. Even back in the day when watching Monday night fb at the bars was big, only a few girls would come in early during the game. Always thought that was kind of dumb because majority of the guys attention was on the game and food. I mean I know kalihi is more known for the pau hana parties. But the reality is bars were always catered to the evening crowd, especially out in town. Hence why happy hours are typically in the day / late afternoon, to attract more people to come at that time.
WarriorForLife
06-24-19, 06:22
The new princesses no come work till 8 in town. No wonder the early birds drinkers are disappearing. They hop on to Kalihi instead.
Anyway they are losing the golfers too cause after a hot day playing 18 holes. The golfer group like to have a few beers and some pupus. There is no girls there to serve them cause town princesses come work late.
You're talking about a small group that wasn't even everyday. For out in town, there was also girls specifically scheduled for the afternoon. Even back in the day when watching Monday night fb at the bars was big, only a few girls would come in early during the game. Always thought that was kind of dumb because majority of the guys attention was on the game and food. I mean I know kalihi is more known for the pau hana parties. But the reality is bars were always catered to the evening crowd, especially out in town. Hence why happy hours are typically in the day / late afternoon, to attract more people to come at that time.
The new princesses no come work till 8 in town. No wonder the early birds drinkers are disappearing. They hop on to Kalihi instead.
Anyway they are losing the golfers too cause after a hot day playing 18 holes. The golfer group like to have a few beers and some pupus. There is no girls there to serve them cause town princesses come work late.I do notice town bars aren't really hosting golf events anymore, which probably is key. I notice Green tea and lilac have flyers for lot of golf functions. In fact I think they have teams. I know a few of Mimi's girls golf, but I don't know if there's enough to consist of a team. After all, most of them relatively speaking are on the younger side. Ashley, last I saw just don't have enough girls period. Seems Lotus and Splash though might be reloading with older woman, so perhaps their future will cater to the golf crowd. Not trying say golf is a older person thing, but let's be real here those type of functions do attract the older crowd more. Camelot, that place got all kinds of issues now. Ever since Mimi left, that place is catering more to Korean nationals. I don't know how she going continue to make ends meet with that mentality. Especially when the customers are notorious for rolling over tabs.
Seems Lotus and Splash though might be reloading with older woman, so perhaps their future will cater to the golf crowd. Camelot, that place got all kinds of issues now. Ever since Mimi left, that place is catering more to Korean nationals. I don't know how she going continue to make ends meet with that mentality. Especially when the customers are notorious for rolling over tabs.No major sports to watch, no golf due to wet weather, too hot & muggy to feel like going out, personae non gratae, and so on. Also noticing that the K crowds are out in force and trying to take over the bar counter. If you in the middle of dem, they talk and socialize right through you; typical rude, nomadic attitudes. The Big Shots. Sad case.
The new princesses no come work till 8 in town. No wonder the early birds drinkers are disappearing. They hop on to Kalihi instead. Anyway they are losing the golfers too cause after a hot day like to have a few beers and some pupus. There is no girls there to serve them cause town princesses come work late.Empowered KBGs no care; the LVBs scared and spoil dem already. Inhospitality and crude manners at all turns with no strategies to enhance the KBs. That's the KBs and, if you still like go, got to expect that kine stuff and try ignore. Sad case.
No major sports to watch, no golf due to wet weather, too hot & muggy to feel like going out, personae non gratae, and so on. Also noticing that the K crowds are out in force and trying to take over the bar counter. If you in the middle of dem, they talk and socialize right through you; typical rude, nomadic attitudes. The Big Shots. Sad case.
Empowered KBGs no care; the LVBs scared and spoil dem already. Inhospitality and crude manners at all turns with no strategies to enhance the KBs. That's the KBs and, if you still like go, got to expect that kine stuff and try ignore. Sad case.I agree with Mr Mits that the rude Korean Nationals are starting to be seen more often at the bars. In the past, you rarely see them out front, but now they are taking over sitting at the bar. And like the previous monger mentioned, they are very rude people who like to get into arguments with people. I guess that is the way of the bar scene and the end is getting closer.
I agree with Mr Mits that the rude Korean Nationals are starting to be seen more often at the bars. In the past, you rarely see them out front, but now they are taking over sitting at the bar. And like the previous monger mentioned, they are very rude people who like to get into arguments with people. I guess that is the way of the bar scene and the end is getting closer.Well reality is they always been around, just now it's more noticeable with the lack of others. As mentioned previously though Camelot is now notorious for that. That's why place hasn't been packed since Mimi and her girls left. I've heard too from a few sources lot of girls are avoiding working there because that's just how mama wants to operate. Up until a few months ago, she had Mimi covering her mistakes. We'll see how long more she can survive now that she is solely doing things her way. I hope all the delinquent tabs that go on there get paid off eventually.
Well reality is they always been around, just now it's more noticeable with the lack of others. As mentioned previously though Camelot is now notorious for that. That's why place hasn't been packed since Mimi and her girls left. I've heard too from a few sources lot of girls are avoiding working there because that's just how mama wants to operate. Up until a few months ago, she had Mimi covering her mistakes. We'll see how long more she can survive now that she is solely doing things her way. I hope all the delinquent tabs that go on there get paid off eventually.
In the past, you rarely see them out front, but now they are taking over sitting at the bar. And like the previous monger mentioned, they are very rude people who like to get into arguments with people. I guess that is the way of the bar scene and the end is getting closer.
The above key words and phrases (of observations) are setting the KB Landslide: 'Noticeable, lack, notorious, avoiding, survive, covering her mistakes, delinquent tabs, paid...eventually, rude, taking over, arguments, etc. " Positive and humorous comments need to be harvested from going KB, not crap. Lots of work to do in order to enhance the KBs from their current, negative images. Sad case. Anyway, will be doing a day shift observation and report of New Business after its approximately one month of being in operation (from what I've heard so far, it ain't that good) soon. Somebody else go same time so that can get one unbiased, multiple report, if can. Sad case, so take care and stay thirsty.
The above key words and phrases (of observations) are setting the KB Landslide: 'Noticeable, lack, notorious, avoiding, survive, covering her mistakes, delinquent tabs, paid...eventually, rude, taking over, arguments, etc. " Positive and humorous comments need to be harvested from going KB, not crap. Lots of work to do in order to enhance the KBs from their current, negative images. Sad case. Anyway, will be doing a day shift observation and report of New Business after its approximately one month of being in operation (from what I've heard so far, it ain't that good) soon. Somebody else go same time so that can get one unbiased, multiple report, if can. Sad case, so take care and stay thirsty.What time?
Captin Crunch
06-28-19, 16:27
What time?Today or tomorrow? Or Sunday?
Well reality is they always been around, just now it's more noticeable with the lack of others. As mentioned previously though Camelot is now notorious for that. That's why place hasn't been packed since Mimi and her girls left. I've heard too from a few sources lot of girls are avoiding working there because that's just how mama wants to operate. Up until a few months ago, she had Mimi covering her mistakes. We'll see how long more she can survive now that she is solely doing things her way. I hope all the delinquent tabs that go on there get paid off eventually.I know what you mean, recently I went to some KB to have a few and sing a few at the bar. Next to me was a Korean guy maybe 30 yrs old talking to the Korean bartender. Heard her say to this guy, "I won't push drinks if you come meet my friends this coming weekend". So yeah, maybe the KB mamas think its cool to run a business with the same racial Koreans, who do not spend money like non-Koreans and if they do allow non-Koreans, they should stop the KBG from pushing ridiculus $40 drinks. I tell the KBG once she mentions it, to pay it yourself and walk out never to go there again. Stupid business will fail real quick when mama san looks at her balance sheet.
WarriorForLife
06-30-19, 00:12
Have been sober and stayed away from KBs for over a month, my wallet is as heavy as ever been. Took a ride in town, first stop Spotlite, slow, same girls, nothing excited to report. 904, Ruby still there, she gained a few pound, heard she has a BF now, she was kind of busy. Starlite parking lot looks emptied, is that place still open? Vegas is as slow as ever been, their popular bartender Hana said bye bye to KB and gotten married. Guess how long that will last? She loves to drink and marry life and drinking don't mix. Still trying to get the Fox to marry me, but she said she likes to enjoy life before she settled down, that's fine with me as long as I get my bazooka fired once in a while.
Went to town after. Only bar with little action is NB. But they still got a long way to catch up to once popular EG. Ashley only old farts there. Grandma near 60's trying to be 40's trying to make a living, sad case! Korean nationals taking over Camelot, sometimes I wish I can understand Korean so I know if they are talking stink about me.
Fourth of July is around the corner. Let's see if it will boost up the kbs business a little, they sure needs help!
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This will be my last weekend report for now since my schedule will be changing. Didn't have much time so I just headed straight to NB. It's nice to see Makaloa street parking more crowded now since NB opened. Not like the old days when we had to keep circling till a stall opened up but at least better than the past few months where area seemed like ghost town. Anyway, NB fairly steady, not as busy like the past couple weeks but lot of off booths and barstools occupied. I've noticed a few different girls. If they can hold steady like this for weekends, then I'd say it's a success. I don't mean to sound biased on this place or Mimi mama but reality is this place really the only one that resembles the good ole days. Just sucks can't hop from one place to another and have equal or better feelings. Competition is going to be key and as of now it's pretty much just NB vs everyone else. I would hope Ellie mama has learned a few things since she now somewhat a vet and try be ambitious to get people back to her place. Perhaps anyone who still keeps in contact with Patty and Maya mama, convince them to make one more run in the bar scene. Anyway, NB is pretty much what I expected on the weekends. Now I'll get to see how the weekdays are. I'm expecting slow, question is how slow. Although because of Independence Day, I expect Wednesday will be on the busier side. Probably not Thursday since majority will be busy with other events.
This will be my last weekend report for now since my schedule will be changing. Didn't have much time so I just headed straight to NB. It's nice to see Makaloa street parking more crowded now since NB opened. Not like the old days when we had to keep circling till a stall opened up but at least better than the past few months where area seemed like ghost town. Anyway, NB fairly steady, not as busy like the past couple weeks but lot of off booths and barstools occupied. I've noticed a few different girls. If they can hold steady like this for weekends, then I'd say it's a success. I don't mean to sound biased on this place or Mimi mama but reality is this place really the only one that resembles the good ole days. Just sucks can't hop from one place to another and have equal or better feelings. Competition is going to be key and as of now it's pretty much just NB vs everyone else. I would hope Ellie mama has learned a few things since she now somewhat a vet and try be ambitious to get people back to her place. Perhaps anyone who still keeps in contact with Patty and Maya mama, convince them to make one more run in the bar scene. Anyway, NB is pretty much what I expected on the weekends. Now I'll get to see how the weekdays are. I'm expecting slow, question is how slow. Although because of Independence Day, I expect Wednesday will be on the busier side. Probably not Thursday since majority will be busy with other events.Patty has other business ventures she's focusing on.
No major sports to watch, no golf due to wet weather, too hot & muggy to feel like going out, personae non gratae, and so on. Also noticing that the K crowds are out in force and trying to take over the bar counter. If you in the middle of dem, they talk and socialize right through you; typical rude, nomadic attitudes. The Big Shots. Sad case.
Empowered KBGs no care; the LVBs scared and spoil dem already. Inhospitality and crude manners at all turns with no strategies to enhance the KBs. That's the KBs and, if you still like go, got to expect that kine stuff and try ignore. Sad case.Have you ever wondered if you pay for some $40 drink, which is usually a full bottle of beer, how does mama know if the KBG will give the bar a "fair" share, which is usually $5 for $20 drink?, Who knows if she just pockets that $20 and tell the bartender its a $20 drink? That way she rips off both the customer, by having a free pass $20 for no drink and the bar losing out on their $5. I don't trust anyone of those KBG.
Anybody got info on where the easy play is on the west side? I mostly Go Blossoms and Hot Ash, got regulars I like share, but lookin for new ones.
Have you ever wondered if you pay for some $40 drink, which is usually a full bottle of beer, how does mama know if the KBG will give the bar a "fair" share, which is usually $5 for $20 drink?, Who knows if she just pockets that $20 and tell the bartender its a $20 drink? That way she rips off both the customer, by having a free pass $20 for no drink and the bar losing out on their $5. I don't trust anyone of those KBG.To my understanding a bottle of beer is supposed to be a $20 drink. I myself have had girls get a bottle of beer for $20. Typically the $40 drinks will be for certain hard liquors or wines, as those cost close to $10 range and up for us. But for the most part the deal is the bar just collects the cost of the drink and the girl keeps the rest. The only thing the bar will partake in is handing out fake drinks at the girls request. Of course there's probably some places that have different business practices but that is the general procedure. Mama should be looking out for us and pushing girls not to do such things. But all in all you have the power to allow the girl to rip you off or not. Always going have some moron who got no balls to decline and allow themselves to get ripped off. This is a big reason we are in this mess, because few years ago youngsters decided to partake in this hobby and would only think with their other head (if they even thought at all). I said this 10+ years ago and I'll say it now, "hostess bars isn't for the weak soul. ".
Always going have some moron who got no balls to decline and allow themselves to get ripped off...and would only think with their other head (if they even thought at all). I said this 10+ years ago and I'll say it now, "hostess bars isn't for the weak soul. ".Blame the LVBs from Maui who get nothing to do but go KB in Wailuku and set new high price standards for nekos; news of the increase then reaches Honolulu and all pau. Right now, heard that they ripping the poor Maui bastids for $50 nekos because they so desperate for KBG yuk gae.
I don't trust anyone of those KBG.
They wonderful actresses (not some, but all). The best thing is that "what goes around... " and bachi usually get them in the end (when and where they deserve it). Can't live with or without dem shibalnyuns (haha). Overheard at another KB that New Business slowing down (it all becomes reality in about a month).
Blame the LVBs from Maui who get nothing to do but go KB in Wailuku and set new high price standards for nekos; news of the increase then reaches Honolulu and all pau. Right now, heard that they ripping the poor Maui bastids for $50 nekos because they so desperate for KBG yuk gae.
They wonderful actresses (not some, but all). The best thing is that "what goes around... " and bachi usually get them in the end (when and where they deserve it). Can't live with or without dem shibalnyuns (haha). Overheard at another KB that New Business slowing down (it all becomes reality in about a month).So in all these years that people have been going to the kb's no one has had a truly memorable experience with a kbg? So does that mean we are always the good people and they are the bad ones? IMO I thing both sides try to out do the other, at least for me that was the thrill of the game.
WarriorForLife
07-02-19, 00:41
Kbgs are not bad people, they are there trying to make a living, whatever it takes, sometimes they BS a little, bottom line we are the ones keep going back to them, myself included.
You are right about NB already slowing down, no bars these days would be able to keep up like the good old days. $20- $40 drinks are just too expansive especially when you are on a fix income.
So in all these years that people have been going to the kb's no one has had a truly memorable experience with a kbg? So does that mean we are always the good people and they are the bad ones? IMO I thing both sides try to out do the other, at least for me that was the thrill of the game.
So in all these years that people have been going to the kb's no one has had a truly memorable experience with a kbg? So does that mean we are always the good people and they are the bad ones? IMO I thing both sides try to out do the other, at least for me that was the thrill of the game.With due respect, we should put your two questions and closing statement to the task. I'll start:
1. I have not had a truly good and memorable experience with a KBG; they will use every tactic in the book to survive; they use me, I use them; been going KBs since 1970 and still planning to continue going to classes.
2. This has nothing to do with who the bad person is in this particular situation; of course both sides (99%, for the sake of argument) are using tactics to gain any advantage to "come out ahead," in preservation of the Id.
For me, the thrill is gone for the moment but not yet buried. Take it easy and see you at NewB before the end of the week.
You are right about NB already slowing down, no bars these days would be able to keep up like the good old days. $20- $40 drinks are just too expansive especially when you are on a fix income.I've just spoken to a KB mama friend and she confirmed that those $40 drinks are ONLY for the owners, not the bar girls. If those KBG try to make you pay $40 a drink, of which she will tell the bartender its a $20 drink that takes the bar cut of $5, then she pockets the $15 and also that free $20, cheating out the bar cut. Go tell the mama and she'll straighten out that KBG for trying to cheat both the customer and the bar.
These KBG are greedy and would do that to you and the mama who employs them.
I've just spoken to a KB mama friend and she confirmed that those $40 drinks are ONLY for the owners, not the bar girls. If those KBG try to make you pay $40 a drink, of which she will tell the bartender its a $20 drink that takes the bar cut of $5, then she pockets the $15 and also that free $20, cheating out the bar cut. Go tell the mama and she'll straighten out that KBG for trying to cheat both the customer and the bar.
These KBG are greedy and would do that to you and the mama who employs them.Depends on the mama. Most $40 drinks are for premium liquor and beers like bud, bud ice and Heineken etc.
With due respect, we should put your two questions and closing statement to the task. I'll start:
1. I have not had a truly good and memorable experience with a KBG; they will use every tactic in the book to survive; they use me, I use them; been going KBs since 1970 and still planning to continue going to classes.
2. This has nothing to do with who the bad person is in this particular situation; of course both sides (99%, for the sake of argument) are using tactics to gain any advantage to "come out ahead," in preservation of the Id.
For me, the thrill is gone for the moment but not yet buried. Take it easy and see you at NewB before the end of the week.I've had a couple of good experiences, known a few kbg for about 20 years or so and I've been going to bars since '75. I guess I've been lucky or thinking with the big head and not the small one. You're right though the thrill is gone.
WarriorForLife
07-03-19, 01:10
Actually mama likes the girls to push $40 drink.
Cause mama cut is $15 for a $40 drink. Greater than the two $20 drinks that they only get $10 cut.
No matter what, no one deserve $40 except for princess Fox. I would buy her two $40 drink, that is all.
I've just spoken to a KB mama friend and she confirmed that those $40 drinks are ONLY for the owners, not the bar girls. If those KBG try to make you pay $40 a drink, of which she will tell the bartender its a $20 drink that takes the bar cut of $5, then she pockets the $15 and also that free $20, cheating out the bar cut. Go tell the mama and she'll straighten out that KBG for trying to cheat both the customer and the bar.
These KBG are greedy and would do that to you and the mama who employs them.
Actually mama likes the girls to push $40 drink.
Cause mama cut is $15 for a $40 drink. Greater than the two $20 drinks that they only get $10 cut.
No matter what, no one deserve $40 except for princess Fox. I would buy her two $40 drink, that is all.I was talking to my friends and we were thinking that if the drinks were $10 each, the KB girls would make more money since most men would not mind paying $10 for the soju the girls are drinking. If they drink a regular bottle of beer, then $20 would be appropriate. At $40 per drink, the girls would have to be very good looking or really very nice. Unfortunately, I don't see too many girls in that category these days.
I've just spoken to a KB mama friend and she confirmed that those $40 drinks are ONLY for the owners, not the bar girls. If those KBG try to make you pay $40 a drink, of which she will tell the bartender its a $20 drink that takes the bar cut of $5, then she pockets the $15 and also that free $20, cheating out the bar cut. Go tell the mama and she'll straighten out that KBG for trying to cheat both the customer and the bar. These KBG are greedy and would do that to you and the mama who employs them.They're in a regulated industry operating with no regulations because there are no real consequences; they also try to screw each other and anybody else in their way.
Actually mama likes the girls to push $40 drink. Cause mama cut is $15 for a $40 drink. Greater than the two $20 drinks that they only get $10 cut. No matter what, no one deserve $40 except for princess Fox. I would buy her two $40 drink, that is all.Most KBGs will try to drink half the beer bottle (in a tall glass with ice) for $20; the KBGs and KBs get 2 $20 nekos for 1 bottle of 12 oz. beer. The KB is in charge of and has to control the dispensing of nekos to the KBGs or risk the losses; cat and mouse game at all levels. Anyone who thinks it's about customer service is losing or has lost it.
WarriorForLife
07-03-19, 21:03
There is no such thing as $10 drink anymore.
I agree with you $40 drink should be only reserved for special princesses.
Not too many special princesses out there these days. Some they have the looks but with shitty attitude. The other ones with grandma looks but with decent attitude.
You make the call. Hard to find a gem at KBs. Princess Fox might be the only one I can see right now. Her entertainting spirit would rock your world anytime and anyday. Her looks is cute and she is a mature woman in her prime.
I was talking to my friends and we were thinking that if the drinks were $10 each, the KB girls would make more money since most men would not mind paying $10 for the soju the girls are drinking. If they drink a regular bottle of beer, then $20 would be appropriate. At $40 per drink, the girls would have to be very good looking or really very nice. Unfortunately, I don't see too many girls in that category these days.
See you at NBiz on Friday, 07/05/2019 dayshift, for an After the 4th hydration session. Will use this as a one month review of the joint for laters, if anybody interested or cares; encouraging others who get time to come and give their objective, independent reports. Get $10 KBG nekos during dayshift (take it or leave it) because not buying no $20 ones for nothing gained; leave good tip to supplement if service / pupus good. Have a good, safe 4th of July.
WarriorForLife
07-04-19, 15:50
Good luck! Could you give a live report while you there? I might stop by if I am in the area, last time I was there at 5 pm, bartender was the only female soul there. Got bored and left, went to check out Ashley after, and got hustle for drink by BS grandma Leeann. Left there in a hurry too! Such a wasted of time.
See you at NBiz on Friday, 07/05/2019 dayshift, for an After the 4th hydration session. Will use this as a one month review of the joint for laters, if anybody interested or cares; encouraging others who get time to come and give their objective, independent reports. Get $10 KBG nekos during dayshift (take it or leave it) because not buying no $20 ones for nothing gained; leave good tip to supplement if service / pupus good. Have a good, safe 4th of July.
Captin Crunch
07-04-19, 19:22
See you at NBiz on Friday, 07/05/2019 dayshift, for an After the 4th hydration session. Will use this as a one month review of the joint for laters, if anybody interested or cares; encouraging others who get time to come and give their objective, independent reports. Get $10 KBG nekos during dayshift (take it or leave it) because not buying no $20 ones for nothing gained; leave good tip to supplement if service / pupus good. Have a good, safe 4th of July.What time you planning on being there? Pm is good.
Viet Whisperer
07-05-19, 07:08
There is no such thing as $10 drink anymore.
I agree with you $40 drink should be only reserved for special princesses.
Not too many special princesses out there these days. Some they have the looks but with shitty attitude. The other ones with grandma looks but with decent attitude.
You make the call. Hard to find a gem at KBs. Princess Fox might be the only one I can see right now. Her entertainting spirit would rock your world anytime and anyday. Her looks is cute and she is a mature woman in her prime.Here is a useful strategy I sometimes use. If you have a kbg that gives you the buy my sister a drink please because she don't have any customers bullshit then offer to buy them both a $10 dollar drink. The bond of sisterhood will immediately be broken as the kbg who asked that bullshit won't want to make less money and will stop that bullshit quick. If she gets out of line and pops off with something about being cheap be polite and say sorry you feel that way and stop buying or switch to another girl which sends the message even better. Learn to train your girls as they are certainly trying to train us.
TomAssCan9
07-05-19, 08:07
Here is a useful strategy I sometimes use. If you have a kbg that gives you the buy my sister a drink please because she don't have any customers bullshit then offer to buy them both a $10 dollar drink. The bond of sisterhood will immediately be broken as the kbg who asked that bullshit won't want to make less money and will stop that bullshit quick. If she gets out of line and pops off with something about being cheap be polite and say sorry you feel that way and stop buying or switch to another girl which sends the message even better. Learn to train your girls as they are certainly trying to train us.It is all part of the game. Dey no I just avoid dem and by 1 nudder girl drinks if she like play.
Learn to train your girls as they are certainly trying to train us.Sadly, the KBGs get plenty guys trained already; those LVBs always come back for more even when (or still) broken financially, emotionally, and mentally. Can see who dem because dey sit around like soggy chap chae. If KBGs ack up, ignore and then NEON (Not Even One Neko. Hit them where it hurts). It's all a big game the majority of the time, anyway.
What time you planning on being there? Pm is good.Start sometime dayshift, opening (1200-1300) hrs. ; go home early, 1600 hrs. Let's see what dey got when least expected. Aigu, no can give live report due to technicals. Take it easy.
Captin Crunch
07-05-19, 13:22
Sadly, the KBGs get plenty guys trained already; those LVBs always come back for more even when (or still) broken financially, emotionally, and mentally. Can see who dem because dey sit around like soggy chap chae. If KBGs ack up, ignore and then NEON (Not Even One Neko. Hit them where it hurts). It's all a big game the majority of the time, anyway.
Start sometime dayshift, opening (1200-1300) hrs. ; go home early, 1600 hrs. Let's see what dey got when least expected. Aigu, no can give live report due to technicals. Take it easy.Will try to be there. Maybe the other crazy guy might show up too. Never drink with him in ages.
See you at NBiz on Friday, 07/05/2019 dayshift, for an After the 4th hydration session. Will use this as a one month review of the joint for laters, if anybody interested or cares; encouraging others who get time to come and give their objective, independent reports. Get $10 KBG nekos during dayshift (take it or leave it) because not buying no $20 ones for nothing gained; leave good tip to supplement if service / pupus good. Have a good, safe 4th of July.Mongers got the power! $10 neko or NEON (Not Even One Neko), night time we can give $15 neko. KBs need to take drastic action to lure us back. Use your brains, what do we want?
Will try to be there. Maybe the other crazy guy might show up too. Never drink with him in ages.Sounds good. We used to try and do Flash Mob maybe 5-6 years ago for fun; we picked one slow KB to barrage (all arrive at one certain time) and about one dozen guys when show up, had only one drink, and left. We did this at Kalihi, too. Their faces when show confusion and panic when the mob when arrive; and then more confusion when the mob when leave.
Get plenny 'crazy guys' out there, especially during dayshift, but that makes the KB World go 'round. Main thing no make trouble.
WarriorForLife
07-06-19, 16:43
July 4th, got there at NB early evening, saw grandma Leeann and another Ashley girl was there. Place was slow and dead, no sense hang around and moved on. Ashley closed, Camelot parking lot was full, probably the Korean nationals filled up that place, did not go in there, cause street parking were also taken by fireworks watchers.
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