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USTraveller
06-04-05, 20:17
Brothels are a good starting point. My first "mongering" experience was at Mabel's on 95 many moons ago. I overpaid and didn't totally enjoy the experience. I've heard stories of going as low as $150 for FS. I'd guess and say the minimum may be in the $200 range these days. Price depends on a number of factors.
1) The time that you go may be the biggest factor. Tuesday afternoon will be cheaper than Friday night.
2) I heard that local NV residents can get better rates due to the chance of repeat business. Arriving by cab may also increase the price.
3) You have to be a good negotiator to get a lower price, and you may only get 1/2 hour or shorter depending on what she wants. They always start high and come down in price.
4) The girl you pick is also a factor. The blonde bombshell will most likely be more than the chunky 40-something housewife.
5) The amount of money you have is a factor. If you only have $200 and no credit cards on you, then that is your absolute maximum price. If the girl won't go for it, ask to see another girl.
Hope this helps anyone thinking about brothels.
-USTraveller
USTraveller
06-04-05, 20:41
I truly believe that every girl in a strip club has a price. Some prices are way too high and nobody in their right mind would pay it. Some are desparate for money and will do many things for it. The trick is finding these ones.
Strippers make money by selling time. During the last 30 seconds of a lapdance, it's usually better (i.e., more contact). This helps her sell the next lapdance and get another $20 or more. They also may do more contact to sell the VIP room, where much of the time, nothing happens. This is true in strip clubs all over the USA.
Some clubs have strict policies about how far their ladies go. Some don't, although they say they do.
As always, YMMV by club, but also by the girls at the clubs. One girl may give nothing but air. Another at the same club may go further. One may even go back to your room.
-USTraveller
Finally back in town
P.S. I support Wastrel's idea for a "Clip Joint and Scam" thread to help people avoid the "cab driver" scenario.
What is Danny's, please? And a couple of landmarks for location?
Sigh,
I do not know why visiting mongers need something else when attractive enough girls work all the major casinos and can be had for as low as $200, and most of the rest for $300. With a few exceptions, particularly the high end places, that is what it will cost. Yes it is illegal, but LV PD does not do reverse stings in the casinos, prefering to let the casinos handle business. And no way is any casino gonna report or even say a peep if you get a casino girl up to your room.
Bottom line is, no need to waste time and additional money visiting one of the brothels. You have an adequate supply in town.
So, what's the real story on legal brothels?
I enjoy my drives through the various parts of Nye County when I'm visiting LV (like out through Blue Diamond to Mercury area, back down 95. Nice break from the casinos and the LV traffic) and I see a few of the "sporting houses" along the way... I've watched shows on the various TV channels which suggest that the 'average' tab at various establishments is $350. Other shows suggest that the average tab is $1500, which would seem to imply an endless stream of mongers with more money and more libido than brains. However, what's the real scoop? How many $ for the average half-and-half, and are the women actually the really-good-looking eager beavers the TV shows imply? By the way, I won't consider an answer to be admission that you have actually frequented an establishment, nor will I conclude that you fall into the monger description above. LOL
Didn't mean to imply an intent to visit legal brothels, just looking for insight into the 'real' story since I know that what I see on any TV news or 'reality' style show is a lot of conjecture, gossip, speculation, hearsay and outright fiction reported as news or hard facts, so nice to hear what the locals who know really think and know about any situation. I've never been in a legal brothel, and I don't think I'd like the cattle-call selection process depicted by some TV shows, but I know that there are alternatives to picking out of the line up.
In regard to the ladies working the casinos, in fifteen trips to LV since 2000, I've mostly stayed out of casinos since I have little interest in gambling, thus apparently overlooking many opportunities to be found there. I've never been approached in a casino and thought TV reports about all casinos' security diligently watching for and removing our favorite female entrepreneurs might actually be mostly true. But thanks to postings on this forum and a couple of very informative private messages, I now know more about the "how-to" for indulging my hobby in casinos and in a couple of places along the strip. My next trip is coming up 6/16, then 7/17, so I'll be out there checking out the information, for sure.
In regard to the brothels, you can turn down the line up and tell them you want to have a drink before making your choice. I had trouble finding anything acceptable at these places for under $400. Forget about platinum pussy. I'll never go to one of these places again. They're pricing themselves out of the market for the average income guy. The only ones who will be able to make a good living are the top tier girls feeding off the whales.
What is Danny's, please? And a couple of landmarks for location?
It's a small local slot bar/casino. Right on Boulder Hwy at the corner of Boulder and Lamb/Desert Inn rd. One side is Dannys's the other side is Motel 6 and Boulder Station casino.
PsyberZombie
06-05-05, 15:41
I totally agree with Speck when he writes =
" I do not know why visiting mongers need something else when attractive enough girls work all the major casinos and can be had for as low as $200, and most of the rest for $300. "
Yer generally gonna get more 'Bang for your Buck' from your typical "Week·End Warrior"
BUT , *Giant Sigh* , if you feel you must check out one of the legal Brothels and have a spare , oh , $$$$$$$$$$ to blow , go to =
http://www.nvbrothels.net/
noneathome
06-06-05, 02:49
I went to Vegas and a cab driver took me to Sensations.
I got ripped off of 350$ and had to leave as I was disgusted at their attitude.My first post here so be forgiving. My props to Jackson I have followed his boards a long time time.
I'll write in order of events, but I'm really PISSED about "Sensations" in LV so I'll get that shortly.
Friday afternoon: I was tight with cash this weekend in LV but my friend's $ was burning a hole in his pocket. First Stop Sheri's Ranch in Parumph. What a cool place! I was expecting $12 martini's in the bar, but mix'd drinks were $5-$6, 75cent pool table. The girls walk around the bar, and make small talk with little touching. There are like 50 girls. I was there 2 hours and a never ending supply cruised through the bar ranging in 6-10's with lots of 7 and 8's. Many from Dominican Republic so they say.
I finally got a tour of the place and went back to the room in curiousity as no prices discussed in the bar. She opened the menu and I nearly laughed out loud. $3000, $1000, etc. I thought she was joking. I told her look, I got $200. She hit me on the back of the head! I went back to the bar.
NOTE, the girls have a TV in their room with a channel that is a view of the bar!!!!!!!! So when you are in the bar like 50 girls are in their rooms sizing you up figuring out who and what you like, etc. It's efective because a girl that is totally my type hit me up, thats who gave me the silly prices.
During this time my homie was tagging a girl you can see on their website. She is HOT! But not $750 hot. That $1000-$3000 she knocked wayyyyyy down. But to me $750 is not worth it either. Saw some threads asking so above is first (or second hand but i was there) recent expereince on their pricing.
For the record and the other thread, YES, Sheri's own's the club in LV as well that was once Tally Ho's or Rick's Cab at one point as well I believe.
Ok, so that same night we hit Club Paradise. The girl quality has dropped to the point it's not worth going. They dont break the rules there and now that the girls are 7-8's I decided to go to Cheethas where the 6-9's are historically nasty in a good way.
On the way out a Cab driver convinced us to go to "SENSATIONS" a massage parlor where you get F/S for $40. I knew something wasn't right but I didnt want my friend to know about my expereince with Massage Parlor pricing and extras so I played dumb and figured it wouldn;t hurt to check it out. Cabby offered to STOP the meter while we go in and see the girls. He went in too and it was clear the girls knew him. My first thought was KICK BACK. Thanks to this board I KNEW there was no F/S in LV that easy to find so I was sceptical and had a bad vibe. My friend wanted to stay so he did and I left. The girl told him $40 for the house then min $100 in the back for extras. He calls me an hour later pissed. After the $40 at the door, the girl in the back ask's for $40 to get things going. She rubs hs ears then says $100 more for more "undefined" fun. Then wants $300 to start the party, etc. He was smart enough to get the hell out. Ironically 2 huge "Brothers" came in that appeared to work there and 1 confronted my friend. Their job is clearly to "intimidate" so you don't push to get your cash back. He left paying $80 for NOTHING and scared he was going to get his ass kicked.
The next day I went there on his behalf to get his $80 back. They were not open. I rang the bell a few times thinking someone was onsite 24/7. Unfortunatly no one answered, too bad - I without a doubt would have gotton his money back, I have some "skills" in that department.
Ok, last info from this trip. I checked out a couple massage places. The ASIAN Massage on Paradise just off Saraha (block or 2 behind Mc Donalds, same side, stand alone building - NOT the one in the small strip mall) I know from Prior expereince is a Jack Shack and thats it. She'll drop her top and yank your chain for 50/100. When she answered the door and I saw it was the same girl from last year I politly declined and left. Nice fake rack but pale as can be. When she first opened she came from CA and has a nice Asian Yellow/Brown tan which I love, but thats gone now.
My advice is if you monger in LA or San Berdo, do NOT go to LV for something better, because its only their if you are a multi-millionaire, which I know you are not because you wouldn;t need this board if you were!!!! haha.
Keep it covered.
PsyberZombie
06-06-05, 06:32
*** Why you do NOT want to let a Cab Driver 'help' you find some Action in LV ***
Mainly, because most of them are on the take from at least one of the numerous Clip Joints in town and they get a kick-back from the club for every sucker they deliver.
Here's how it works=
After you ask the Cabbie for some advice, he tells you he'll take you "The hottest place in town... just what you're looking for!"
He then drops you at a Joint where the cover charge is at least .5
Once inside, sure enough, there's a bevy of beautiful and alluringly dressed or un-dressed young ladies.
You're so enchanted that you don't notice the small signs on the wall that state "Prostitution is Illegal in Las Vegas etc." and "No Alcohol is Sold on the premises"
Within minutes of your arrival you are 'hit on' by some sweet young thing who talks you into ordering a round of drinks which turn out to be the most expensive fruit punch you'll ever buy in your life.
After some small talk, with plenty of 'kino' [ i.e. her touching you ] , she hints broadly at the pleasures that await you in the 'Champagne Room'
After you agree to go, and pay the $ cover charge there, she orders a non-alcoholic 'split' bottle of 'champagne' which costs more than a Full bottle of Dom Perignon
Then she wants another, and then still another...
At some point you either run out of money or, more likely, begin to demand some the 'services' she promised you earlier
At this point she excuses herself to use the restroom. But within seconds of her leaving the room two or three burly bouncers appear and politely but menacingly escort you from the Club.
They are shocked, Shocked! that you attempted to solicit their fellow employee.
You, natch, are too smart to try to engage these gorillas in a fight, so you end up outside where there's a cab waiting, not with the driver who brought you, but with the driver who just delivered Some Other Sucker!
Since you were trying to commit an illegal act, you can't exactly call the Police
As your cab pulls out of the club's parking lot, you see a cab with yet another schmuck pulling in
And as you head back to your Hotel, you realize that the 'Circle of Suckers' is now complete !!
Roadkill at Work
06-06-05, 12:06
That's a good one. Yup, circle of suckers is absolutely correct. Don't get fouled people, especially the place next to De Ja Vu. They have some really nice Russian girls working there. If you like to pay 100$ for looking, I can do that at the Crazy Horse 2 for less and get drunk.
$40 to get in and $40 for an lobe job. Damn shame...
Great report. Thanks for the info.
Desert Dude
06-06-05, 19:44
Back in April sometime a monger asked about cheap golf to go with his plans for Vegas debauchery. Have I got a deal for you.
Interesting! Another great find, especially in the summer, is the new Mountain Falls course in Pahrump. It's even on the Vegas side of town. A guy could go there, then have a beer at Sheri's, for under $30 after noon, $50 before. Out of bounds is a construction zone, but the turf is very well maintained. Greens need a couple years to soften up, they are fast and firm. Kinda like the girls at Sheri's.
After hearing of LE crackdowns on Henderson AMP's I was not sure what to expect when I visited the place on Stephanie. When I arrived I asked for the girl who had given me such an awesome HJ on my last visit (Amy). She's not there anymore. I have yet to see the same girl twice... I was offered Jeni and promised "she give good masagee" . After an OK massage (she rubbed lotion in my hair ??) she asked if I wanted anything else and told me 60/HJ 100/BJ. Went for 100. Now I had heard that some of the AMP's had trouble because LE found condoms on the premisis. What came next was a bit of a suprise. Jeni left the room and returned with a 12" square of saran wrap and wraped me up prior to a fair to good "SRBJ" :)
What next? "Paper or Plastic?"
Have fun & be safe.
Steve
*** Why you do NOT want to let a Cab Driver 'help' you find some Action in LV ***
Mainly, because most of them are on the take from at least one of the numerous Clip Joints in town and they get a kick-back from the club for every sucker they deliver.
Here's how it works=
PZ,
With your permission, I'd like to clip this post of yours with the intention of reposting the info in the future in other places where the info needs to be seen. Quoted with or without your screen name, as you prefer.
Tonight (Wednesday) around ten PM I got caught in the middle of a Vegas cab driver protest on the Strip. Hundreds of taxis were stopped intentionally jamming LV Blvd for miles while honking their horns, apparently to protest a law just passed by the legislature but not yet signed by the Governor to crackdown on kickbacks from clip joints. That's right, they're publicly demanding their right to continue to deliver up tourists to be screwed by the mob. It took almost an hour to get to a place where I could get off the Strip. I was next to one of these scumbags who had his window cracked, and in a fit of anger and disgust I flicked my stogie at his cab and it actually went into the window and bounced off his face, he gave me a finger and I returned the salute, then after about five more minutes of being trapped in this honkin' mess I noticed Abdul's cab filling with smoke. I sincerely hope it was his trousers that caught on fire.
W
For the non-local strip joint mongers-
Galardi, who is/was the the competition to Crazy Horse Too, is a smart guy.
He states in court that (not verbatim but close) being that he bribed some Vegas officials he figured it was OK to do the same in San Diego.
He was taking a shot at a mistrial. He failed.
Roll over, Beetoven...
Several weeks ago I reported that things were perking up a little at the back bar in the Golden Nugget. It didn't last long.
The last several times I've been in the Nugget it appeared to be completely sanitized of any hint of sex. My impressions were very reliably confirmed when I spoke with a dependable and well informed CW acquaintance recently. Some very indiscrete low rent SWs who's behavior and appearance is just too crude for anything above The Western provoked the management, and hotel security has again been ordered to eject all working girls from the premises.
My CW friend who filled in some of the details is an intelligent, very cautious and discrete, well dressed black woman in her late twenties. She would normally have no problem blending in at the most upscale hotels on the Strip, but for the past couple of weeks she is informally allowed to go only as far as the front bar of the Nugget, and not to work at all or to go near the back bar.
Too bad these guys can't seem to figure out how to use a little judgment when they take out the trash and end up spaying and neutering the place in the process. To me the atmosphere in there resembles a trip to a dentist's office in a suburban shopping mall, and I will celebrate the day the twinkle-toes boys finally close the deal on selling the place to an actual adult businessman. The sale should be final sometime later this year, perhaps by the end of summer.
Anyone seeking CWs downtown these days can find a few of them late in the evening off and on at the front horseshoe shaped bar of a well known casino very near the Nugget which I prefer not to name. Prices are generally about half of the going rates on the Strip.
Vegas Whit #1
06-10-05, 21:25
PZ,
Tonight (Wednesday) around ten PM I got caught in the middle of a Vegas cab driver protest on the Strip. Hundreds of taxis were stopped intentionally jamming LV Blvd for miles while honking their horns, apparently to protest a law just passed by the legislature but not yet signed by the Governor to crackdown on kickbacks from clip joints.
WIt wasn't just the Strip, I was in the Aladdin parking garage and exited onto Harmon where several cabs were trying the same thing. Luckily, several of us were behind one of those big dirt haulers who had had enought and actually pushed one out of the way making a hole for us. I hate those damn haulers but that night I loved 'em.
My friend Pina was in a complaining mood the other day. I didn't mind, since her troubles are usually more interesting than the average ***** and moan session you might hear from someone else, and they might have some interest for a few guys who are curious about the life of a working girl, so here you go.
Pina is a very bright tall trim African-American woman originally from Detroit who is in amazing shape for someone over forty, and somehow she still looks about twenty five after working for all these years since she was a teenager. She would have been a jaw dropping beauty twenty years ago, and is still able to maintain a clientele of loyal customers. She needed a ride to Bob's Bail Bonds downtown to check in. She had to bail out recently on a failure to appear warrant for jaywalking. Yes, jaywalking. Metro can spot working girls as well as we can, and under pressure to "clean up" downtown for more upscale investment they will routinely bust the professional ladies for such offenses as littering, jaywalking, loitering, etc. Personally, I think someone like Pina adds class compared to most of the characters in the area, but that's how it goes these days, and she almost never leaves her downtown apartment on foot.
On the way to Bob's ("se habla espanol, open 24/7 to serve you") she went on a rant about some of her clients. There's the guy who has her use the glass topped coffee table, and this involves some bodily functions I don't usually associate with sex. Then there's the guy who had her spank him with a leash in a hotel room while he's naked except for a dog collar, calling him a bad dog while he barked and howled. I'll give it to you in her words: "So he was barking and yelping for me to spank him harder with that leash, but he got so damn loud this time. So I says 'can't you just bark like a little doggy, you're making a hell of a lot of noise in here, and if you won't be more quiet with the barking and stuff someone is going to call security or the cops or the humane society or something, and I'm black' but he just barks louder and louder, so I says I'm outta here, and I don't care what he's paying."
But one of her benefactors is disturbing to me, becuase his actions are so unnatural. In her words again: "This guy pays half my rent every month like clockwork, but he has never had me do anything, and he's never even seen me naked. Can you believe that? I keep telling him I'm a working girl and he is a customer, but he won't have me do anything and keeps paying my rent. Can you figure that?" No, I can't. It is creepy to me, and it creeps her out too. I worry about whether this is a guy who might pop his cork and go on a rampage with a chainsaw or something, so on the off chance that the gentleman is reading this, I want to suggest that you try having her undress you and give you a nice little massage or something to relax. It will make her feel better, and you might even discover you like it too.
Cres Prophet
06-10-05, 22:16
I totally agree with Speck when he writes = [/i]Yer generally gonna get more 'Bang for your Buck' from your typical "Week·End Warrior"
BUT , *Giant Sigh* , if you feel you must check out one of the legal Brothels and have a spare , oh , $$$$$$$$$$ to blow , go to =
http://www.nvbrothels.net/I took this post as my inspiration for my trip to Vegas.
I had work that kept me there most of this week. I hit the hotel bar every night and would just watch the girls roll in. You got a great mix of average to extremely hot. Much easier than prowling the streets and non of the ones I saw were bad.
Tuesday night, the working girls started to clear out at about 3:00 AM and I saw a nice BSW start to exit the hotel to a side parking lot. I followed her down the hall and asked her why is she leaving? I invited her back to my room. She had gotten no bites earlier that night (watched her for about 2 hours) so she quickly agreed to come with me.
Once in the room, she shimmied right out of her clothes and then asked for the donation before we started. I left her .80. She was flabbergasted as "I get $$$". Sorry honey, in Los Angeles all I donate is .80.
She starts to get dressed and I start to rub her very fine ass and tell her that i'll give her $. She hems and haws, but I tell her that she's got a sure thing here and then she can hit her next destination. Thats all it takes and the clothes are back off. Performance was good and she was stacked and had just the right amount of bubble-butt. I don't like too much junk in the trunk and she had all the right mixings.
Thursday night I pretty much did the same deal, but about 2:00 AM I walked up to a blonde girl named Madison and chatted briefly. She said that her company would run $$$. I said that I never donate more than $. She told me to hit the road and that the least she would do was $$.
Damn I was horny and her B sized rack looked really firm. The big head wrestled control away from the little head and I walked. An hour later she's by my side offering to "split the difference." $1.5 and we were good to go. Half-price reduction. gotta love it.
She knew how to fake it right. As I rubbed her ass, she moans and says how she just loves that kind of skin contact. She was cute and I will repeat when back.
TravelingVoye
06-12-05, 00:38
Was in your fine city for a conference and certainly appreciate all of the advice the forum has provided, so I did the right thing and avoided the AMPs. Instead I cruised the casino bars - dozens of them - and it was quite an effort to find a lady prior to 12am (got to work the next day - that's when I usually leave). Saw a few potentials under the lantern (regulars will know this) and surprisingly saw some at the Bally's bar where I was staying. Met Ashlee who was looking for 6.0, but negotiated down to 2.5 and had a fabulous time! She's from out of town - so don't know if you will see her again.
Good luck to you all and be safe!
PsyberZombie
06-12-05, 09:44
Wastrel wrote =
" PZ,
With your permission, I'd like to clip this post of yours with the intention of reposting the info in the future in other places where the info needs to be seen. Quoted with or without your screen name, as you prefer.
Be my guest , W , especially seeing as how you're one of my fave Posters on this entire Web Site
With Attribution would be nice , too =
I've been shocked , Shocked! , to find that another little essay of mine — titled " Is She a Cop ?? " — occasionally pops up on another Board , with·out ID·ing the author as Yours Truly , and that kinda
gravels me
[ And it takes a LOT for me to use 'gravel' as a Verb ]
The amendment that they're trying to pass won't fly. The Governor will veto it Monday. His veto announcement was to prevent a work stoppage on Friday nite at the airport. Limos & shuttles are not included in the amendment.
It'll also supposedly complicate matters as there has been a law on the books since '85 that prevents liquor license holders from offering kickers.
If they could only word so the cabbies can't bring tourists to those 100% ripoff joints that gouge the hell out of eveyone.
Saw a few potentials under the lantern (regulars will know this) Under the lantern?
The Baron 4
06-13-05, 00:09
Guys, I'm coming out to LV soon, and have been researching this forum thoroughly. From the midwest, and prefer the escort scene, but not while I'm out Vegas.
I'll be staying at the Excalibur, and I plan on cruising other nearby hotspots for CWs. I'm wondering if elevator security is ever an issue at Excalibur, since it seems to be a family type place. Are they gonna care at 1AM, when the kiddies ought to be asleep?
Thanks,
Baron
Those are some good prices. I've never been quoted less than $200, except by girls that were obviously looking to jack me when we went up to the room(accepted $50 each immediately....I changed my mind).
I took this post as my inspiration for my trip to Vegas.
I had work that kept me there most of this week. I hit the hotel bar every night and would just watch the girls roll in. You got a great mix of average to extremely hot. Much easier than prowling the streets and non of the ones I saw were bad.
Tuesday night, the working girls started to clear out at about 3:00 AM and I saw a nice BSW start to exit the hotel to a side parking lot. I followed her down the hall and asked her why is she leaving? I invited her back to my room. She had gotten no bites earlier that night (watched her for about 2 hours) so she quickly agreed to come with me.
Once in the room, she shimmied right out of her clothes and then asked for the donation before we started. I left her .80. She was flabbergasted as "I get $$$". Sorry honey, in Los Angeles all I donate is .80.
She starts to get dressed and I start to rub her very fine ass and tell her that i'll give her $. She hems and haws, but I tell her that she's got a sure thing here and then she can hit her next destination. Thats all it takes and the clothes are back off. Performance was good and she was stacked and had just the right amount of bubble-butt. I don't like too much junk in the trunk and she had all the right mixings.
Thursday night I pretty much did the same deal, but about 2:00 AM I walked up to a blonde girl named Madison and chatted briefly. She said that her company would run $$$. I said that I never donate more than $. She told me to hit the road and that the least she would do was $$.
Damn I was horny and her B sized rack looked really firm. The big head wrestled control away from the little head and I walked. An hour later she's by my side offering to "split the difference." $1.5 and we were good to go. Half-price reduction. gotta love it.
She knew how to fake it right. As I rubbed her ass, she moans and says how she just loves that kind of skin contact. She was cute and I will repeat when back.
Cres Prophet
06-13-05, 12:52
Those are some good prices. I've never been quoted less than $200, except by girls that were obviously looking to jack me when we went up to the room(accepted $50 each immediately....I changed my mind).At 3:00 am and their options disappearing, it just made good business sense to take some money rather than none. When the blonde, Madison, came back over, I might have given her the $$ if we had chatted a bit more as I was wanting her. She was smart and knew that there was some money to be had and offered the reduction.
If I didn't have the luxury of not needing to be up early the next day and I had approached the girls earlier in the night, I'm pretty sure that the price would have been more inflated. I generally like the better looking girls and have been lucky in negotiating for $ or less in LA. This girl is the first that has broken $ for the donation alone. I already had a room, so that was all good.
Just an update on the original red rooster. They closed down the Group room and made it couples only. This leaves nowere for a single guy to even have a chance. There is usually a few real big chicks that are giving it up in the pool area and a few couples like to be watched and go at it out in the open, but other than for entertainment it looks like the place is dead for singles. If anyone else has been there recently feel free to post what you found there.
Also has anyone tried the new Rooster 2? It looks like another green door type rip off but I didnt go in.
Just an update on the original red rooster. They closed down the Group room and made it couples only. This leaves nowere for a single guy to even have a chance. There is usually a few real big chicks that are giving it up in the pool area and a few couples like to be watched and go at it out in the open, but other than for entertainment it looks like the place is dead for singles. If anyone else has been there recently feel free to post what you found there.
Also has anyone tried the new Rooster 2? It looks like another green door type rip off but I didnt go in.Keep in mind that the "Rooster 2" has no connection at all to the Red Rooster and is supposedly, like you said, another Green Door scenerio.
I heard The Green Door was a good place to go at one time. I went once and it was a ripoff. They charge too much money without you knowing if there is anything good going on.
A couple of spaces to the left of The Green Door is Red Rooster. I don't know if it is Red l or Red ll. They changed the name to Rendevous or something like that. I went there a couple of weeks ago and it looked like they changed the name back to Rooster.
The Rooster there was good, the price was cheap and I saw some good action.
There was a hostess one time I went and she solicited me for $100. I told her maybe later and when she came back I told her I couldn't because I only had $60.
She gladly took that because it was dead for her. It was good fs except you are in a voyeur type of place so you have to get it up with people trying to watch you.
I was wondering if there any good asian massage parlors in Las Vegas? Doesn't have to be full service, just a nice rubdown using her whole body to do the massage and maybe a happy ending.
USTraveller
06-15-05, 04:38
I went to the AMP on Spring Mountain west of the Strip. It's on the right across from the plaza with the Big Lots in it. I'm not even sure it has a name, but it has a big sign saying Hong Kong Sytle Shiatzu or something like that. It's been there for a while and the other ones popped up all around it.
Anyway, I paid $70 for the hour which seems to be the "new" going rate for Las Vegas. The massage was so-so which is another bummer. At the very least, I always enjoyed that. The upsale was very difficult and I told her no to $100 and $80 for HJ. I offered $40 then $60 and she said no. She laughed and proceeded to start the activities.
I played along just to see what happens when nothing is agreed to. She finishes, I finish, then she diddles around massaging my neck/head till the hour is almost up. I get dressed and she is kind of hanging around making small talk. I guess it wasn't a free one. I pulled out $60 and she said "No, $80". I had another $10 in my wallet (due to the higher than expected door fee) and she tried to take that saying $70 was between $60 and $80. I said I never agreed to $80 and she said it was OK and I left.
Usually, I pay $60 + $60 for HJ, so $70 + $60 wasn't too bad. Anyway, I thought maybe this oldie-but-a-goodie place would be good again. I won't be going back. Just remember to keep prices low for everybody so they don't expect $100/HJ each time.
I'm getting more and more serious on crossing over to the SW/CW side of things. The more I read about it, the more it appeals to me.
-USTraveller
The amendment that they're trying to pass won't fly. The Governor will veto it Monday. His veto announcement was to prevent a work stoppage on Friday nite at the airport. Limos & shuttles are not included in the amendment.
It'll also supposedly complicate matters as there has been a law on the books since '85 that prevents liquor license holders from offering kickers.
If they could only word so the cabbies can't bring tourists to those 100% ripoff joints that gouge the hell out of eveyone.I agree.
I was never under any illusion that this doomed change in state statute would actually fix anything. In fact I think I could make a pretty good case that it could have made things worse. In the unlikely event it made any impact at all it would have applied only to establishments holding "privileged licenses." And what sort of place makes it's money on fifty dollar glasses of grapefruit juice, and therefore doesn't need such a license? Can you spell "clip-joint?" I don't know that there's any possible fix for this sort of thing other than constantly educating the poor saps who come to town with a bankroll and a vague quest for a good time. It may be inevitable given the nature of business in Las Vegas, but I do wish these guys were just a little bit embarrassed about the scams they run on their customers, and I find their protests to protect their "right" to screw the public more than a little unseemly.
I have a long list of reasons for regarding Vegas hack drivers as somewhat lower on the food chain than pimps and crack peddlers, and many of those reasons have nothing to do with the purpose of this board, but I think the fact that this issue got these psychopathic rattlesnakes temporarily acting as a united herd tells us that there is some serious jack involved in the clip-joint kickback racket, and it is not just lunch money that's changing hands at the back door. The places that pay the biggest grease will always be the ones that are most ruthless in hosing the tourists the most.
In any case, there is an anonymous trucker in town with a dirt hauling rig who is my new hero.
W
As many of you know, when Harrah's turned over the old Binion place to MTR Gaming they kept exclusive rights to the 'shoe trademark. While supping my five dollar designer cuppa coffee in front of the Nugget I listened to an employee reminiscing that he “can't believe that sign is gone after fifteen years working here looking at it every day yadda, yadda, yadda..."
Glancing across Fremont to the neon front of the old joint on the other side of the canopy I suddenly realized it is now named "Binion's 'rse." At least until the crew with the crane comes back to finish their work, having already removed the "Ho_shoe" from it.
During the massage, is the girl naked or clothed?
I don't know how they had planned to enforce the rule of the taxi kickbacks had it passed. Those guys would have found a way to get paid, they make alot of money through kickbacks.
My friend "used" to be a cabbie, he quit because of the dangers. He told me many stories of what goes on and we don't know the half through the news.
Yet another eloquent post! I really dig reading your work! I usually read, nod profusely, and mumble "Yup! Exactly!" thru-out each post of yours.
Desert Dude
06-15-05, 16:02
Yet another eloquent post! I really dig reading your work! I usually read, nod profusely, and mumble "Yup! Exactly!" thru-out each post of yours.
I usually fall out of my chair laughing my ass off.
PsyberZombie
06-15-05, 16:38
Seems like WASTREL is building up quite a Fan Base here
Go Back and read my Opinion of Mr Wastrel at Post # 272 here , is all I ask...
USTraveller
06-15-05, 21:06
Mr Chip, I hightly recommend checking out the Special Interests > Massages section of the forum. I wrote an extensive list in the AMP Tips and Guidelines section that should answer some of your questions. Others have added their 2 cents as well which is always helpful. Check it out:
http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=266
Wastrel, great posts as usual.
-USTraveller
In response to the PMs I’ve been getting I’m going to distribute some more information on the downtown SW area that was new to me. I’m not yet sure whether it should be through post or PM. I’ll try to figure that out after I do some more reconnaissance next week, to learn more about what I was really seeing while trying to simultaneously drive and get my shirttail unstuck from my zipper. Unless I run into the cheap nympho again, in which case I might not get out much.
Indydave: It's magic. Search for "lamp." Or possibly a genie once owned by a dude named "Aladdin" and try intentionally misspelling that a couple of times.
A few clips from a hartwarming little family tale:
Colletti, who served a four-year federal sentence for her part in a money laundering scheme at the Mustang Ranch, and Miltenberger, who said in a telephone interview that he still has "a substantial financial interest" in Sheri's Ranch, have been married about nine years.
"She wants the houses, my interest in Sheri's Ranch, my Bentley, everything," Miltenberger said.
<SNIP>
Colletti, 68, was convicted of operating the Mustang Ranch as a front for former brothel owner and fugitive Joseph Conforte. A jury determined that Colletti took millions of dollars from the brothel and sent them to Conforte, whom the FBI has said fled to Brazil.
<SNIP>
The Mustang Ranch brothel complex was seized by the federal government and operated by the feds for a short time before it was closed and eventually demolished.
<SNIP>
http://www.lvcitylife.com/articles/2005/06/17/local_news/shrapnel/shrapnel.txt
Whom I pm'ed. I saw another hint today. I think my radar is correct. They are probably moonlighting since they live in the area.
Muggs
I sometimes stay at the Imperial Palace, where some of the best looking waitresses in all Vegas work. I was closing out my stay last week and as I was walking back to the elevator, I got the look from a young cutie. I told her I was going for one more drink then I was calling it a night. She met me at the bar and talked herself into joining me in my room. I can only say, what a find. For only $ I had a great full service time. She said she just turned 21. She had one of the hairiest beaves I've ever seen. I actually like that look on her.
She gave me her digits and "stage" name. There is some value out there if your patient.
TR
I am staying at a well known hotel off the strip. It is very close to the LV convention center. Don't want to give too many details as I don't want to blow it for the rest of you guys if you stay here. At about 10:30 tonight I was cruising the lobby and made eye contact with several girls working the room. I picked up Theresa. She was a little on the big side but beggers can't be choosers. She offered up FS for 2 bills but I was able to get her down to 1.
Face 8
body 5 (if you like larger women)
effort 4
All in all a decent experience. I will be testing the waters down there over the next week.
More to come.
LAX Man
I have now read quite a few reports of cg's for less than $200 down to as low as $100. I only believe one of those reports due to the credibility of the poster and the way the report was couched.
Now, I would love to have easy access to cg's for $100 a pop. But this reporting totally goes against everything I have ever experienced, and I have experienced a lot. I have never had a cg even contemplate $100....they split and say "see ya later" immediately. The one time it was accepted, the two cg's stole all my money and all my friends money. Even at $150, while some cg think it over for a minute, they have always declined. At $200, about 75% of cg's have accepted.
I should add a qualifier....I only pickup white or latina cg's. Maybe black cg's accept less. I know the girls that ripped me and my friend off were black.
I have now read quite a few reports of cg's for less than $200 down to as low as $100. I only believe one of those reports due to the credibility of the poster and the way the report was couched.
Now, I would love to have easy access to cg's for $100 a pop. But this reporting totally goes against everything I have ever experienced, and I have experienced a lot. I have never had a cg even contemplate $100....they split and say "see ya later" immediately. The one time it was accepted, the two cg's stole all my money and all my friends money. Even at $150, while some cg think it over for a minute, they have always declined. At $200, about 75% of cg's have accepted.
I should add a qualifier....I only pickup white or latina cg's. Maybe black cg's accept less. I know the girls that ripped me and my friend off were black.
Speck,
Actually I met one last year that I got for free. I used that southern charm, fed her, listened and well we clicked and I was seeing her for a few months at a time. She just moved back to the South back in April. That was really luck of the draw there.
I do agree with you though. These girls be trying to get at least $200. If you at the Venetian or Bellagio or other higher ends...that $200 will insult them.
On the other hand, there are cheaper pastures in the downtown casinos.
Desert Dude
06-23-05, 19:30
From a local weekly, the reporter spent 4 days there and reports on everything except the sex. Huh. http://www.lasvegasweekly.com/2005/06/23/feat1.html
From a local weekly, the reporter spent 4 days there and reports on everything except the sex. Huh. http://www.lasvegasweekly.com/2005/06/23/feat1.html
Heartwarming tale about Eden & the 60's gent. Wonder what she charged him...
Hello All,
I feel a little ignorant asking this question but here goes.
I was in a SC in Vegas recently and was getting some very nice dances from a very nice looking girl. Between dances we were talking about where we had come from. As it turned out we both moved here from the same town in Texas. She had danced at the clubs I frequented when I lived there and we knew some of the same people. We were getting along quite well and she started asking me to stay until she got off work or to come back when she was scheduled to get off. It sounded great to me until she mentioned that some of the other dancers called her Johnny because of her friendship with a TS dancer who used to work there. A little later she started admiring her tits in the mirror and commented that they looked "natural' & 'real".
I started to wonder a bit. She looked 100% real girl to me. She even showed me her pussy. As I have never seen a Tgirl (that I know of) I am not sure if one could look that "real" to me.
Feminine facial features, very feminine build, nice ass, nice tits and even a brief look at her pussy. Could she have been a he? How can you tell for sure?
I did not stick around. I may have passed up a great time or I may have saved myself great emabressment. I wonder which one?
Steve
Desert Dude
06-27-05, 19:17
Dang it, that's enough of that! First, run into a gal at the Western who I'd drank with last year with her then bf. She needs a ride to the Boulevard Mall. What the heck, had a few minutes, she's cuter than a button. On the way, we're bs'ing, turns out the bf is out of the picture [read, in jail]. Soooo, now she's back with 'no rules'. Really, thought I. We quickly negotiated from her average .50 starting, down to a .3 quickie bj. She says the roof of the parking deck is a good place. Cool, cuz as my loyal readers know [both of them], I don't care for car play because of the exposure. But it looks good. Empty. Good visibility. Except for those 2 minutes at just that time that I fail to scan around. Looking up, I see security coming BACK around the loop. They had to drive by the back of my car right in the middle of the action. Dammit! Throw some clothing semi-together, start driving out of there asap, hoping that's really what security would like to see. Drop her off at the door, heartrate gets back to normal about 30 minutes later.
The next morning, back in my comfort zone, walking downtown. Get about a block from my hotel, passing an alley, girl [bsw] looks up smiles, starts asking me how i'm doing. That's what I love, a girl that does all the work lol. We agree on a jack, she says meet me back in 15, I've gotta throw my laundry in. Cool, I love a girl that does her chores too. She's there waiting with a smile on. Crossing LVB on Ogden, we got halfway across the street when a car is making a left turn, was coming at 15mph right at us. I mean didn't even see us. She grabbed my arm, pulled me out of the way, and the dickhead stopped 3 feet short of slammin us. Damn! Close call 2! Back to my room, and I remember that it's always good to negotiate what the $ includes. No worries, she strips to show a thin but passable bod, starts with an inspired cbj that goes quickly to mish and moans. Luv it.
Decide to go get breakfast so walk back up Ogden with her. Right when we get to her place [didn't invite her to breakfast lol] 3 Metro bicycle cops come wheeling right at us, passed us, and hooked up this thug guy. Still, knowing this girl had priors didn't exactly leave me a warm fuzzy feeling about the local l.e. professionals.
So, 3 sort of close calls in less than 24 hours. My friends, I'm taking a little breather on this fun. Feel free to PM me with any questions or thoughts, and I'll be checking in from time to time, I just gotta let this stress pass for a bit.
be safe and have phun out there, the dude
Steve M,
I am from Vegas but now work in Thailand and China for the casinos. I swear that many of the Tgirls here are absoutely fantastic looking. Everything about them is perfect. The only sure fire way to tell, is if she (he) can actually get wet. The operation cannot insert this gland so the Tgirl has to use KY or some other form of lubricant.
Bec.
What brothels are closest to Vegas? I've done some research and it seems Pahrump is "close" with a 2 hour drive. Anything closer? Also, these brothels seem overpriced.
What brothels are closest to Vegas? I've done some research and it seems Pahrump is "close" with a 2 hour drive. Anything closer? Also, these brothels seem overpriced.Brothels are not legal in Clark County. Pahrump is in Nye County and that is the closest you will get from Vegas.
You can get cheaper tail in Vegas, but watch your back. Since it's ho-ing is illegal in Clark County.
Travel Guy
06-30-05, 14:38
Pahrump is 1 hour drive from Vegas. You will spend about $$$ to $$$$ for session.
Just look up a well reviewed escort and have her come to your room . You will be better off. If you have any questions send me a PM and I will give you a good web sight to go to and check out all the escorts.
Its been about 8 years since I went to a brothel (Chicken ranch, Pahrump) but I think it was about an hour and 15 minute drive.
They are definately overpriced. Remember the girl has to give the house half the fee so you know there isn't gonna be anything cheap. My understanding is if you go up north (real long drive) there are some cheaper places that cater to truckers and passers through. For the most part the brothels near Vegas are for wealthy high roller types with a fat wallet.
If you want to find a girl in Vegas your best bets are Craigslist, many girls in the 150-200 range. Also check The Erotic Review, lots of girls in the 200-500 range with reviews.
Stay clear of agencies especialy from the phone book or pamphlets from the street. These girls will try to sqeeze as much cash as possible out of you while giving lousy service if any at all. A common tactic is they collect the advertised fee then say "ok that is for the agency now how much are you gonna give me?"
Have a nice trip).
Took a 4 wheel stroll down the Highway - last nite about 10-11 - and it appeared quite busy - all shapes, shades, sizes & styles. But it was also busy on both sides of the fence. 3 or 4 LEOs done dropped in at the Dew Drop Inn and a few others at some other establishments.
6 or 7 targets on one drive thru but they (of course) were on the other side of the road. One little shapely BSW seemed to have disappeared on my turn-around. Just about where she would have been if she kept walking (I think it was by the BUdgets) were 2 or 3 B&Ws with the racks lit. They weren't there on the one way and I didn't notice them on the road. They were in the parking lot with a guest vehicle in the middle. I wonder...
Sportsman seems to be popular with the LEOs lately as well. 2 or 3 trips over the last week or so has found a few of them cruising thru or hanging at the property every time. Not much noticed beyond that point of the road.
Mary/Charles had a few haggardly lookers hanging on the northside curbs.
Tomorrow's rent day. Discounts & volume.
Hello All,
I feel a little ignorant asking this question but here goes.
I was in a SC in Vegas recently and was getting some very nice dances from a very nice looking girl. Between dances we were talking about where we had come from. As it turned out we both moved here from the same town in Texas. She had danced at the clubs I frequented when I lived there and we knew some of the same people. We were getting along quite well and she started asking me to stay until she got off work or to come back when she was scheduled to get off. It sounded great to me until she mentioned that some of the other dancers called her Johnny because of her friendship with a TS dancer who used to work there. A little later she started admiring her tits in the mirror and commented that they looked "natural' & 'real".
I started to wonder a bit. She looked 100% real girl to me. She even showed me her pussy. As I have never seen a Tgirl (that I know of) I am not sure if one could look that "real" to me.
Feminine facial features, very feminine build, nice ass, nice tits and even a brief look at her pussy. Could she have been a he? How can you tell for sure?
I did not stick around. I may have passed up a great time or I may have saved myself great emabressment. I wonder which one?
Steve
If she looks good, smells good, and has all the good features, why not believe that she (or whatever) is good. I would never think that I am screwing a man at any point. Steve, you are thinking way too hard. Go for it next time and if it turns out to be transgendered individual, chalk it up to experience (lol).
USTraveller
07-02-05, 23:17
Pahrump is the closest with a little over an hour drive. I read somewhere a long time ago not to speed in and around Pahrump as the cops love to catch eager hobbyists heading out to the Chicken Ranch or Sheri's Ranch. The next closest are the ones North on 95. Mabel's and Madame Butterflys stick out in my head, although I think they are the same place. If I remember, it was about a 2 hour drive to there. As far as those being cheaper, I'm not so sure about that. Other, more remote places may be cheaper, but driving 4-5 hours is just plain silly.
Brothels are among the highest priced for sex mainly because they are perfectly legal and people don't negotiate properly. Just remember, just because they quote you $1000, doesn't mean that's the price. Prices are negotiable to an extent, but remember the house gets half and those girls are good at math. Some places have a house minimum and the lowest I've seen "published" was $200. That doesn't mean others aren't lower.
Finding a good, inexpensive CW is a time consuming process. Yes, you could find that "gem" for $100 who does you every which way for 4 hours, but that's unlikely. My guess is if you walk into a brothel with 2-3 hundred, someone there will provide FS. Just don't go during the busy times. And if it still costs a little more, at least you know the cops, or a crazy bf, aren't going to burst in on you. So you are paying a premium for peace of mind.
Remember, you can drive there, try and negotiate for a good price. If you don't get what you want for a price you want, you can always leave. Sure, you wasted 3 hours of your time and gas money, but at least you tried. And you practiced your negotiating skills for when you get to the CW/SW level.
The other options mentioned here (craigslist and escorts) are great options as well. If you have a referral, that's great. Anything you are trying on your own is hit or miss. At least at the brothel, you ARE going to get whatever you agree to upfront, with no worries.
Of course, since overpriced is a relative term, everything I mentioned still could be overpriced. Just remember, there seems to be a direct proportion of price to risk.
-USTraveller
Pahrump is the closest with a little over an hour drive. I read somewhere a long time ago not to speed in and around Pahrump as the cops love to catch eager hobbyists heading out to the Chicken Ranch or Sheri's Ranch.
-USTraveller
Makes perfect sense as the brothels need to be outside of the Pahrump "legal" city limit line. Easy money for a growing town.
Hey, thanks for the response. What do you usually do when you go to Vegas? Go to the brothels or something else?
Let me know if you need any info about Hamburg or Amsterdam.
Part of the Mint's state quarter program, this one only was voted for by the tourists...
I have seen pictures of man made pussy and it cannot pass for the real thing.
If she looks good, smells good, and has all the good features, why not believe that she (or whatever) is good. I would never think that I am screwing a man at any point. Steve, you are thinking way too hard. Go for it next time and if it turns out to be transgendered individual, chalk it up to experience (lol).
Has anyone been to the new Adult Store on W. Trop? If so, please post info on the viewing room setup. Is it a open theater or several booths, or rooms?
I have found that most new places have large rooms with a sofa and TV for private viewing. If the management is "friendly" it's cheaper to take the SW's there than a notel-motel.
I have seen pictures of man made pussy and it cannot pass for the real thing.
I have to agree, going by some of the pics that I've seen. It just don't look right. Rather ugly, if you ask me. But I wonder if it's something that improves with the price tag - like breasts.
Now that they've successfully transplanted a saliva/muccus gland to the temple area to function as a tear duct, I wonder if that will be in the future for these matters.
I actually had sex with a post-op shemale. From a distance her pussy looked pretty realistic. Up close though it was obviously different and it was only about 2" deep.
I think if it was dark enough and you were drunk enough then it might pass for the real thing.
I'm sure you know the next, obvious question...
Did it make you feel like Kong?
Seriously tho', what was the experience like? Or did it not come into play.
Gee whiz guys,
Please remember the purpose of this forum. Start a new thread or something ! !
I don't begrudge any of the regular posters that want to have a discussion on the subject, but I tend to be a homo-phobe ! ! I really don't have any problem with guys discussing the TS/TV thing but let's keep it to a single thread where those interested in discussing it can go if they choose.
Sorry and I don't mean to offend anyone.
Stay safe,
OG
Gee whiz guys,
Please remember the purpose of this forum. Start a new thread or something ! !
I don't begrudge any of the regular posters that want to have a discussion on the subject, but I tend to be a homo-phobe ! ! I really don't have any problem with guys discussing the TS/TV thing but let's keep it to a single thread where those interested in discussing it can go if they choose.
Sorry and I don't mean to offend anyone.
Stay safe,
OG
I agree. This is Vegas! The city of Ladies...here.
Sorry Guys
I have never seen a man made pussy so I really can't comment on them. I have seen my share of real pussy and all I can say is that they feel good, taste good, and on ocassion smell good but in my opinion they are all just plain ugly to look at.
SAL
USTraveller
07-09-05, 20:23
rich0069 (or anyone else), Here is a brief history and a plan for the future progression of my mongering.
Strip Clubs - I would guess mostly everyone begins here. I've had some success in Las Vegas strip clubs. I haven't been to one in about 5 years, but I have received HJ's and BJ's in them. My understanding is that this is still possible, but you'll pay a lot more for a lot less. Strippers are usually hot, which is very appealing.
Brothels - This is where I started my "real" p4p activities where I had FS. I went to Mabel's which is north on 95. I followed a map on the back of some adult literature. It was a good experience, but I paid a lot. It was in the late 90's and I had the money, so it was no big deal. I liked the idea that it was legal and I could pick the girl from a lineup. If I had the money, I'd go back again and again.
AMPs - This is my most current activity in Las Vegas and other areas of the country. However, I've given up on Vegas AMPs as it is extremely difficult to get anything beyond a HJ. Other areas of the country, FS is very common and affordable. Check out Special Interests section of this forum for more info:
http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=266
Private Apartment Incall - This is the next step in my LV activities. On my next trip to LV, I plan on using the City Life/LV Weekly to find one and test the waters. There is another thread on this topic that is very informative.
Escort Service - I've never called an escort service, but have thought about those little cards that the guys hand out on the strip. Luckily, I read this forum and know not to do that. The problem is there are so many which makes it more unpredictable. I'd only do an escort service if I had a reputable provider.
CW/SW - This is my goal, to be able to pick up one of these and negotiate a good price. I'm not quite there yet, but will be eventually by reading all of the helpful advice on this board. I figure, once I can walk down E Fremont with no fear, I'll be a true pro. It's good to have goals!
-USTraveller
Aloha,
I will be going to Las Vegas soon and would like to get some recommendations for escorts and/or massage providers with extras.
Mahalo,
S
Gee whiz guys,
Please remember the purpose of this forum. Start a new thread or something ! !
I don't begrudge any of the regular posters that want to have a discussion on the subject, but I tend to be a homo-phobe ! ! I really don't have any problem with guys discussing the TS/TV thing but let's keep it to a single thread where those interested in discussing it can go if they choose.
Sorry and I don't mean to offend anyone.
Stay safe,
OG
I agree 100% but now if you're on a front seat date and start wondering why "she" feels so shallow while you diddle her at least you'll know the reason. I think that's important info to have when paying for these services. Kind of like wanting to know if it's a real BJ or just a chin job.
[END OF FEEDBACK]
Aloha,
I will be going to Las Vegas soon and would like to get some recommendations for escorts and/or massage providers with extras.
Mahalo,
S
Check here: http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=366884&postcount=1
Hey guys,
S Hunter is an ok guy that posts mostly in the Hawaii forum. When I read his post, I sent him a PM with some info about how bad the amp action is in LV. Escorts suck everywhere, big bucks for their platinum pussies! ! !
He has given me a referral name to at least 1 amp in HI so he's okay.
Stay safe,
OG
I was in Vegas in June with some friends and have a small report. Saw several CG's at the Rio main bar after midnight. Saw one cute little brunette, she was giving me the look big time. Then some older guy came up to her, seemed like she knew him, they talked for a few seconds, then he left. She left about a minute later. The crazy thing is she looked to be about 7 months pregnant!!! I couldn't tell while she was seated.
Late one night I went with one of my buddies to the Carnival Court at Harrah's. We were still looking for some freebies, but not having much luck. It was about 3:00am and they were closing up, I was talking to a group of girls and my buddy was across the way talking to a fairly good looking girl. My friend came over and told me he was going back to the room. It was way to quick, so I figured she was a pro, and he confirmed my suspiscion. He took off and I stayed and gambled.
She charged 4 bones for 2 hours. He said it was pretty good, but he was drunk. I've seen the CG's waiting at the bars, but never seen them come up to you like that before.
BTW I went to the old Magic Lamp bar at the Alladin and didn't see a thing, has the new ownership run them out?
Have a good one
BTW I went to the old Magic Lamp bar at the Alladin and didn't see a thing, has the new ownership run them out?Could be, I haven't been there in over a month, but I wonder: what time were you there? I've never found "The Lamp" worthwhile before midnight, and it's generally better around one or two, so if you were there too early, say at ten or eleven, then that is probably why.
They are trying to sell tickets to a show in the "V-Theater" called "X-An Erotic Adventure" for $109.00+tax. It is said to have flashes of skin (wahoo!) and hints of sexuality (ooh-wow) so it's also possible that they don't want competion from actual sex available at the bar. But then I personally despise the new Hollywood-Alien-Planet owners, so I'm inclined to think the worst of them.
Worst things about Las Vegas:
5. Way too close to 36 million spoiled narcissistic California pinko fruitcakes, half of whom are either visiting or moving to Vegas on any given day. Leaving La-La land doesn't seem to reform them much. Wherever they go, there they are.
4. Some of the most expensive hookers on earth in areas affected by problem #5 above.
3. Carnage. At least fifty percent of the people in town have absolutely no idea how to operate a motor vehicle. See #5, above.
2. A little $500 apartment is suddenly now a $300,000 condominium “investment property” (see #5, above) and a charitably inclined working man can hardly afford a “Vegas scholarship” to save a starving little 25 year old youth in her own pad.
1. A Mecca and final resting place for the most stupid street criminals on the face of the earth; L.A. thugs so dumb that they think moving to the most heavily surveilled patch of real estate in the world to "hide" and commit more violent felonies sounds like a great idea. See #5, above.
Five best:
5. Whether for profit or just as an entertaining spectator sport, there is never a shortage of stupendously clueless suckers available for our amusement. See #5, above.
4. While walking around town all day with a cigarette or cigar hanging from my mouth, the only thing I will hear about it is: "May I light that for you, sir?" Not everything is affected by problem #5 above. Not yet.
3. Showing cleavage while wearing an outfit that could be mailed with a 37 cent postage stamp is a perfectly normal and respectable sort of job description for a young lady.
2. Video poker zombies and slot machine sluts, resulting in some of the most accommodating cheap hookers in the U.S. outside of the areas too much affected by #5 above.
1. Closing time, what’s that? When struck by a sudden craving to eat a little spicy Thai or Chinese in the middle of the night my only problem is choosing among places for dine in, calling for home delivery, or plucking a hooker named Kwan from the Strip.
P.S. This post dedicated to “instantdust” from Inglewood, CA, in the unlikely event he is able to improve his language skills sufficiently to read it.
W.
James D 2004
07-15-05, 03:11
Are all Vegasian that stupid or just one?
Keep em coming. The more the water, the higher the boat rises, unless you are not on any boat. If they don't come, no casinos, no hotels, no dancers.
One thing Californians, north or south, don't go to Vegas for is f'ck. Some girls are inferior, moving to LV for the cheaper expenses when they are no longer competitive in LA. The others are too expensive compared to LA. LA has everything, why go to LV to compete with the tourist with cowboy hats sitting at the front row of a strip club?
California has her fair share of moron drivers, but they don't even have liscense. For those who have ID to get a hotel room in LV, they should have passed the drivig test, which made them the elites of California drivers. For cars that survive the 3 hr to 5 hr journey, they are in good working condition, likely to have proper insurance. You have no idea what LA drivers have to face everyday. Also, in a split sec, he has to determine, between life and death, whether it's a laser speed gun or just a gun pointing at him.
Pity you don't own any real estate. But all is not lost. Here it's difficult to find a plumber to look at you pipes. So you have to pay the mandatory $40 outcall charge. I needed to replace some 3 feet of plumbing with parts less than $100. The minimum quote is $600 and the most $1000. In the later case, the master plumber came with a driver. He danced around the tap for a while and let his assistant write up the bill, and instructions and part list for you to do it yourself. For 5 min of work, the assistance is happy to accept the outcall charge. My gardener started with an occasional helper. Now he has a team of three. He just drop them off at different sites, and then carrier the blower and dance around for a bit, he hardly do anything heavy nowadays. He never asked for a raise either, he earns a lot more than he used to be.
Are all Vegasian that stupid or just one?
Keep em coming. The more the water, the higher the boat rises, unless you are not on any boat. If they don't come, no casinos, no hotels, no dancers.
It's Vegans.
And we had casinos, hotels, dancers, and better quality (& cheaper) on the working girl level before the Cali crowd came and destroyed our local economy.
Ahh, the good ole days when they built less than 15 houses to an acre.
When you didn't have to walk 1/2 mile from your car to play in a decent casino. When we had mostly decent casinos.
When the street girls on the "4 corners" wore $$$ dresses but charged $. When you could get across town in 20 minutes. When you could get across town w/out the 6 or 7 near misses. When "they" used to drive in, rob a casino and get right back on the I15.
Before you had to worry every time about ending up with some ROB piece of crap or her "boyfriend" sneaking up on you in the room or your car.
Before the Cali crowd started buying sight unseen, renting them out and "killing" decent neighborhoods with the crap (usually more of LA crowd - just more lower end) that would rent them. Before the LA training ground turned into it's own little gandland.
I have nothing against Cali - or many of its citizens. It just seems that the numbnuts end up out here and think we're a suburb of LA. And then they start acting like it's their turf, so to speak, instead of blending in. Wreaking their own style of havoc that's common in most areas of LA.
Yeah it's nice that us locals can sell a 200k house for 450k just because some numbnut with money from his own over-priced Cali neighborhood will buy it but they sure have trashed what was once a decent place to live...
... and MONGER. With a code of ethics in hand.
James D 2004
07-15-05, 04:45
Cien, you make more sense but not much more. How can anybody destroy your economy? You still vote for your local politicians, right? You blame those in charge, not the crap that they attracts.
Wait till you can sell a 200K house for 700K to a mil. I'm not bitter for all those who came into Cali. Not even bitter about the overpriced plumber. You won't be bitter at all if you get your fair share of quality Korean and Chinese girls.
BTW, is Vegan the same or dangerously close to a 'religion'.
Desert Dude
07-15-05, 19:28
James, ya live in Cali? Good, stay there. :D
James D 2004
07-16-05, 00:25
Rest assured, I'll stay on to sell out fellow Californians. Same as your fellow Vegans who sold you out. It's they who voted in the officals who approved the city plans, building codes and building permits.
Quit already guys!
REMEMBER THE PURPOSE OFTHE FORUM IS TO GET LAID ! ! !
Quit the petty bickering and let's get back to reporting personal experinces and making recommendations so members can enjoy themselves.
Stay safe,
OG
Rest assured, I'll stay on to sell out fellow Californians. Same as your fellow Vegans who sold you out. It's they who voted in the officals who approved the city plans, building codes and building permits.
Not quite true. The powers that be accomodate the zoning changes with no regard to the Master Plan that residents refer to when buying property. Blue Diamond Road area is a classic example. Now with the eminent domain laws changed to pacify the private sector, there is no safe quarter for the land across the street from your 2.5 acre home nor is there any for your 2.5 acre home. If they want it they can take it. Stipulation is if it's for the good of the community/city, etc. A little grease makes that work.
How did they (LAers) kill the economy? They inflated the SW rates and lowered the quality. Same thing with the housing. I'll use the housing example as an analogy in order to stay on-topic. A guy walks in to a strip joint with a wad of cash. The $40 girls who used to be happy get greedy and know they can nail a hundred from the "new guy" because he has 500 to spend in a $40 joint. The know better local still sees them as $40 girls and won't bite. The decent $40 girls are now replaced with $40 skanks (probably LA rejects :D) who see a big $40 market for them. Then the gap slowly closes and the $15 skanktoid thinks she should get $50 just because.
Same thing with housing. Cali folk sell their $500k home, come here and buy the $200k home and have a bundle of cash left over. Real estate people see this and start jacking it up. The next wave of Cali's come out and buy from the last wave. The out of staters have change left over and everyone's happy except for the "$40 customer". Which comprise the majority of locals. Not many locals can jump into a entry level home anymore.
It won't ever be a 200k/million market. It'll correct first. When we have no land. WHen people realize their 350k condo used to be $20/nite riding academy the year before. When the water becomes a big enough problem. When growth restrictions come into play.
What could happen is the low end service industry such as maids won't be able to afford to live here anymore and be forced to move. They have stepped up a bit in salary with the newer, bigger joints realizing how much they need people to change the sheets.
I know I'll be damned if I pay some broad $500 for maybe an hour of her acting. I used to dig driving the strip at nite looking for some good, low-cost action. Now it's jammed with those funny white plates that start with a 4 or a 5.
I don't consider any of this "bickering" - I consider it dialogue, albeit off-topic. Unless you can consider getting fucked over the same as getting laid. My POV is the same here as it is on the other side of the border. People start spending too much for too little then that becomes the norm.
One phrase I've picked up from the Cali forums (RE: MPs) is "Keep it real". Vegas tends to bring the "big shot" out of a lot of tourists. "Keep it real".
We need a "Rant" forum...
James D 2004
07-16-05, 15:07
Sacraficing your 2.5 acre home for the good of the public - classic sell out by the powers that be in the name of your fellow Vegans.
If an LAer have to spend more and get less than in LA, he is forced to. If Vegas need them, be it to change the sheets, they got something to do and some spare money to spend, I don't blame them. Escort sucks more than LA, everybody is forced to find some low cost action, but there are too many of them jacking up the price. Even tourists know that but when they are not partying, they need some release and have to try their luck. Nobody wants that but that's life.
The girls are also very mobile. The go where they can get better price or more business - across the nation. Even if guys don't move to Vegas, girls will move to LA if they can get $100 for a SW.
You also can't neglect the contribution big cities like LA. The price for a pretty young Korean girl licking you all over and then Asian cowgirl you as if there's no tomorrow - $120 in a private MP. That's the price for at least 5 years and they get better and younger. There even better service that blow your mind off without cover but that's not as big in the news. Now the customers are not limited to Asians, but they have to pay a little extra. All other comparable service cannot set their price any higher to adjust for inflation or to track the housing or gas price. So the $40 MP's plus $100 tips never manage to jack up their price. SW hardly ever manage to get more than $100 for a quickie unless they are 19 year old 10/10 blonds (see my recent pictures). $100 for a quickie plus room anywhere from $20 to $60 doesn't make sense. If they have to pay more elsewhere they have my sympathies.
Here gardeners, professionals and multi-millionares often live in the same street, each brought their houses 5 to 10 years apart. Affordable housing is hard to come by, hence my $1000 plumbing bill, which I did it for less than $100 including tools. Correction may be in order but don't bank on it, it will pull everything down with it. The last time it took more than 10 painful years to get back to the same price. California already has to prove to have 20 years of enough water supply in order for new permits, but that didn't stop anything.
Hey James D - PM me that KMP info! PLEASE!
I need to hit LA this week for some business and a detour wouldn't hurt.
And the eminent domain change came from the Supreme Court - nationwide rule change applying to property "owners".
Is it just me or is there a direct correlation between the number of good looking SW's and PeeDee's on The Rock?
Every time I see more than just your run of the mill crank-skanks there also seems to be a higher population of fancy colored roof lites.
Usually near by...
BTW - any info on what was shaking just south of the Station the other nite? Empty white car, doors open, cop finishing paperwork in his car, and what looked like a TV crew truck across the street. I heard nothing on the news.
A little later a chopper was liting up the Del Taco mall on Charleston & Bruce.
Overall there seemed to be a lot of LEOs and EMT trucks floating around most of the wee hours.
PsyberZombie
07-28-05, 06:22
James D 2004 writes =
" The girls are also very mobile. The go where they can get better price or more business - across the nation. Even if guys don't move to Vegas, girls will move to LA if they can get $100 for a SW "
You got your socio·economics a little bass ack·wards here , J·D·04
A lot of the girls who work LV actually live some·where else , and fly in for a few days to make a few Clevelands — he's on the thousand dollar bill — before returning home . They often do this once a month or so , either to supplement their income , or as the entire source of their income
Many of these girls will eventually move to Vegas from places like L.A. [ not the other way around ] , especially if they find steady work as , say , a Stripper in one of the many Strip Clubs or high·priced tourist Clip Joints in town
But even if they become permanent residents , they go by the same nick·name =
" Week·end Warriors "
These girls are NOT SWs ; their typical habitat is the Strip Casino Bar , so look for them there . Or in the Strip Clubs — where six figure annual incomes are the norm even for girls working part·time ; and a young , very attractive , smart and aggressive girl who's willing to do the occasional Take Out Service for select well·heeled regular Clients can easily earn 250 tax·free Clevelands or more a year
Just curious if anyone knows which Hotel bars are at there peak right now. Long Time LA monger I post in Vegas when I am going and after I am done. I am familiar with most Bars but would rather check with a Local to see which bars are at there peak right now for hot White blonde girls. Working of course.
PM me any good intel thanks.
The Baron 4
08-03-05, 00:24
Visited Vegas last week, Sunday night thru Wednesday. Long time lurker on this board - living in the Midwest. Here are some of my observations.
Before I go into this, I'll say that I was unable to partake in any fun due to the group I was with. It was still amusing and insightful to observe things though for future reference.
Sunday night, about 11 pm, was approached by a blonde at the bottom of the walkway that heads from MGM to Tropicana. Probably about 22-25 yrs old, and looked used. Passed on that. Kept going, towards Excalibur and through it on my way down to the Luxor/Mandalay Bay passages. Saw a few attractive black girls right before the long Excalibur moving walkway area. Pretty sure they were working, as I got the look from one of them. Also in the very near vicinity were a couple of "gentlemen", shall we say, whom I'm sure were wishing their lady friends would make some acquaintences instead of loitering around and just looking good.
Once I got down to Luxor, I checked out each of the bar areas, and noticed plenty of talent near the Ra area, and the bar thats just adjacent to it. Again, more than a few pimps around too. Got a few nice looks from some pretty girls at slot machines in that area. One of the sweetest smiles a girl has given me in a long time was from a girl named Missy. She was a bit chubby, but had a pleasant manner and seemed nice enough. She said she was working on her own, and she was young too, just 23 and in from Fresno, and leaving the next day. Didn't get her contact info.
My next opportunity to explore came on Tuesday, as I made my way with a friend of mine up to Bellagio, Caesars, and Mirage. Between 9 and 11, I didn't see too much going on at Caesars, and Mirage might have had a few, but I didn't get a chance to really find out. Finally, at Bellagio, my buddy decides to play Casino War. At this point its about midnight, so I'm able to really scope things out. I spot this hot blonde with white pants and a turquoise top at a slot machine on the edge of a main walkway through the casino. I decide to just watch for a bit. She says "hi" to a couple of 40-ish guys dressed average, and they pass by. On this night, I'm decked out, so I figure she'd notice that and show me some interest. I walked past this chick 3 times, and she didn't give me one indication she'd want to have a conversation with me. So, I back off, and keep watching. She eventually gets up and walks over towards the cashier's box, and gets some guy's attention, and starts a conversation with him. It was definitely a first meeting type talk, and again, this guy is near 40. They begin to walk together, towards the Baccarat Bar, and she suddenly just turns around and goes the other way. The dude turns, looks at her walking away, and then if my lip reading skills are up to par, he says "good luck, *****".
Afterwards, I find a couple of girls at slots who give me the look, and I go over and talk to them. The cute one is Toni, from Brooklyn, who's pimp is watching the entire time. Her friend was butt ugly, and I didn't get her name. Told her I'd love a little company, but my rooming situation for the week was not cooperating. She seemed like fun though.
After this, I again see blondie, and again, I pass her by slowly, and she just looks up quickly from her machine, and looks away. What's the deal? I am not even 30, and I get carded for buying smokes, but I was dressed to the T that night. Is this normal to be ignored like that by high class Ho-s?
Wednesday night, hung out in the MGM, and it seemed very promising. Also, got back down to the Luxor, and again Club Ra area was a good hunting ground.
So in summary, Luxor, Bellagio, and MGM seemed like good spots. I did not make it to Rio or Hard Rock. Places that seemed quiet were NYNY, Excalibur (no surprise), and Paris(though I was only in there before 10pm). I didn't get to Venetian or Wynn.
I hope thats a worthwhile report. Question for anyone living in Vegas? One card dealer at Excalibur was saying that its incredibly easy to move to Vegas, get a job as a dealer, and within 6 months be working a a strip casino making 40K per year. Is it that easy?
Thanks,
Baron
[QUOTE= One card dealer at Excalibur was saying that its incredibly easy to move to Vegas, get a job as a dealer, and within 6 months be working a a strip casino making 40K per year. Is it that easy?
Thanks,
Baron[/QUOTE]
40 K ain't shit in this town now. If you have lived here a few years before the housing market took over than yes. But LV is close to some parts of Cali now. Don't get me wrong, 40 is alright....if you have no other bills. But add a $1200-$2000 montly morgage for a house that has no land and you can knock on your neighbors door from your porch....to other debts you have. 40K uh uh
PsyberZombie
08-03-05, 08:51
After this, I again see blondie, and again, I pass her by slowly, and she just looks up quickly from her machine, and looks away. What's the deal? I am not even 30, and I get carded for buying smokes, but I was dressed to the T that night. Is this normal to be ignored like that by high class Ho-s?
Yep , it is normal for a young guy to be ignored like that by high class Week·End Warriors
Read the following , taken straight from the HO·se's Mouth =
http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=313317&postcount=1658
Next time , try this =
Walk right up to her and say " Hi !! Are you here for the Convention ?? "
Then hold up a Purple [ five hundred dollar ] Chip and say =
" Look what I just found !! "
Let her take it from there .....
Psyber I like that Line it's classic will have to try that one, with my luck though she will say yes I am here for the lesbian anti men convention.
Baron nice report I do miss the days when you could find 10's in the Rio and the MGM every night of the week though.
John Wayne
08-03-05, 17:05
Hi guys,
I will be back in town again finally (it's been a year) and have been RTFF. Seems like the CGs are not as prevalent at the Alladin as the last time I was here. Or am I mistaken? It would be nice to find a good, fun independent escort for some fun times, but the numbers I had from my last visit are no longer any good. I will of course check the local rags when i get here, but if anybody has any more relevant information, a PM would be much appreciated. Thanks all.
Diver
CMH Hobbiest
08-04-05, 19:32
Howdy All!
I'm going to be visiting Henderson soon and have been sifting through the old posts. Any tips on where I should try first?
CMH
...with my luck though she will say yes I am here for the lesbian anti men convention.It could happen.
Visitors planning their trip might like to know that they can check the meeting and convention schedule on-line with the Las Vegas Convention and Visitors Authority to get an idea whether a particular resort is likely to have a crowd that is very welcoming toward professional female companionship or even garden variety loose women during any particular week.
For example, if I wanted to be where the working girls are in August I might prefer to share my hotel with the 4000 Carpenters at Bally’s, or the gentlemen of the Union Pacific Railroad at the Flamingo, rather than the International Federated Pentecostal Church at Embassy Suites, and I might hang with the crowd of 10,000 at the American Poolplayers Association confab at the Riviera or the 5000 attendees of the Asian Expo at the Mirage instead of the soaking up the ambiance at the Metropolitan Police Dept. conference at the Hilton the following week, and I really don’t know what it might be like to hook up with the conferees of the Addictionology and Compulsive Disorders gathering scheduled at the Imperial Palace.
Last month the Association of Minister’s Wives and Widows had their annual convention at the Riviera, and this is why it is impossible to give a definitive answer to questions such as: “is Guido Hotel a good place to get laid?”
The url for searching the LVCVAs schedule is:
http://www.lvcva.com/finder/conventioncalendar/meetings
Gents,
I have never given out numbers, and don't plan to get into a habit of it now, but if any of several very regular posters in the Las Vegas section want to PM me about this jewel, I have her permission and will share her cell phone privately. No offense please if I politely ignore requests from anyone I don't immediately recognize as a long standing contributor to this part of the forum.
I live near Las Vegas but not in it, close enough that I don't ever need a hotel room, but far enough out in the desert that it is always useful if someone wants to give me one for nothing and I have a lot of business to do. I have a folder full of hotel invitations for the soft occupancy dog days of August and a backlog of stuff to take care of in town, so I decided to take a room for a week in one of my preferred places in one of the few downtown hotels equipped with room safes.
On Tuesday night around eleven I stepped out onto Fremont under the canopy and spotted a delightful pair of slender milk chocolate legs attached to an ultra short miniskirt and a pair of heels. I caught up to Taniesha and discovered she also had exceptionally prominent and shapely natural assets filling her tight low cut blouse, so of course I invited her to step into my hotel for discussion of mutual interests.
She is from SoCal near San Diego but is in the process of trying to move up to Vegas permanently, and is staying in a non-gaming downtown hotel while getting herself established in town. She says she has at times worked Sunset and Century Blvd in the LA area, and it was obvious just walking her through to the elevator to my room that she's still baffled by how the casino/hotels work. She said she worked the Strip for a couple of nights but is afraid to go there now becuase a friend got caught in a sting. She absolutely has the looks for the Strip. She is only just old enough to enter the gaming hotels at all, and her mixed Cherokee Indian and African-American background gives her a very striking exotic kind of sexy good looks.
On the way across the casino floor a drunk tourist fell in love and began sloshing his bourbon on her and begging for a date. I was amazed and appalled when this gentleman couldn't get his wallet open to fish out his card and he handed it to the young professional lady to open for him and take down the numbers. Out of the corner of my eye I noted that all this sweetheart did to it was use the card to trade contact info, but this guy needs adult supervision with the local ladies or he's going to get home to open a credit card statement informing him that he bought twenty thousand dollar's worth of jewelry and a pink Escalade. With curb feelers.
If I was a tourist from Tulsa and we were hooking up on the Strip she'd be getting several C-notes for her companionship, but I've never been to Oklahoma, she was eight miles off-Strip and eager for a safe end to her night, and I just wanted a leisurely chimney clearing with a nice view to put me to bed in a relaxed state of mind, so we reached an understanding on an oral presentation of a portrait of Ulysses S. Grant. I didn't ask her to quote a menu of prices, but I suspect that off-Strip she would probably be available for about a C-note and change for full service to a gentleman she feels comfortable with. I hope she's successful in making her escape from Cali.
As well as a really stunning little body if you have a taste for chocolate candy on a small frame, Taniesha was completely unhurried, took direction well, and was quite pleasant sweet company before and after. I imagine she'll probably get more of a hard edge of professionalism soon enough, but my only complaint about her now is that she should learn to use her razor a little further north of her hemline. Maybe I'll help her with that sometime.
When escorting her up Fremont I also saw two other likely BSW/CWs hanging out under the canopy. In my experience this is not all that common, and I did not see the same opportunities there the next few nights.
W
Gentleman,
My wife and I will be visiting Las Vegas later this month and I’d like to surprise her with a visit to the male revue at either the Olympic Gardens or the Palomino.
From postings on strip club review sites the Palomino has received mixed notices, and if it was just me, I’d probably choose another club. However this would be about her having an exciting experience (and my going back to the room with a really horny woman).
Any thoughts or recommendations about which club I should take her too? Thanks in advance.
Zack
<snip>... and I might hang with the crowd of 10,000 at the American Poolplayers Association confab at the Riviera or the 5000 attendees of the Asian Expo at the Mirage instead of the soaking up the ambiance at the Metropolitan Police Dept. conference at the Hilton the following week,
I wouldn't think of the APA confab. As a past shooter at the Nationals held at the Riv, I can tell you that the schedule is gruelingly goofy without knowing when your next match will be (one of ours was at 2:30AM following a 6PM match) and the only real thought is pool. In the "church" and in the side rooms.
Now the Asian Expo... hmmm...
USTraveller
08-08-05, 02:26
Wastrel, great post on checking out the conventions scene for places to monger. I don't think I'd book a hotel at a potentially ripe-for-the-plucking convention due to inflated prices, but then again, I don't stay at convention worthy hotels anyway. It may explain why some hotels are dead at times.
Zackaroo, I'd be careful asking for what your asking for since it doesn't fall into the purpose of forum listed in the FAQ (http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/faq.php?faq=faq_general_questions) and could be mistaken as spam (http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/faq.php?faq=spam_questions). My advice would be to check out some of the adult oriented production shows (http://www.lasvegas.com/searchagent/event/SearchShows.do?categories=ADULT&page_action=page_new&vc1=49&vc2=adlt_txt_adlt) and see if there is something there she might like.
-USTraveller
Olympic Garden is close to the strip. Palomino is not. Olympic Garden is slightly upscale. Palomino is not. There are LOTS of female customers at Olympic Garden. Note that the male dancers are only there on Friday and Saturday night. I think for your situation you are better off at OG although I will not recommend the place for men as there are better values elsewhere in Vegas.
Gentleman,
My wife and I will be visiting Las Vegas later this month and I’d like to surprise her with a visit to the male revue at either the Olympic Gardens or the Palomino.
From postings on strip club review sites the Palomino has received mixed notices, and if it was just me, I’d probably choose another club. However this would be about her having an exciting experience (and my going back to the room with a really horny woman).
Any thoughts or recommendations about which club I should take her too? Thanks in advance.
Zack
...Olympic Garden is slightly upscale. Palomino is not...They definitely do some things the cheesy way.
I've wondered if the atmosphere at the Palomino hasn't suffered since the management was recently caught pulling an amateur whacking. I never go inside the joint, but the parking lot has been looking pretty lonely. Then again, I don't know if it ever did have a lot of business from self parking locals. But it's sad how low the local standards of professionalism in such things have sunk these days:
"FOUR CHARGED: Police say rumors led to slaying
"Timothy Jay Hadland said the wrong things about the wrong people, and he paid for it with his life, authorities say.
"The former doorman at the Palomino Club was marked for death after bad-mouthing the all-nude club and its owner to cabdrivers, costing the club thousands of dollars in lost revenue, according to a Las Vegas police report.
<SNIP>
"According to the police report, Hidalgo Jr. was angry because Hadland had been spreading rumors about him and the club, and the bad word of mouth among cabdrivers was costing the business thousands of dollars. Strip clubs often pay drivers to funnel customers to their doors.
"During a meeting on the day of the slaying, Hidalgo Jr. told Carroll to find someone to kill Hadland, the report stated. Carroll, who handed out club fliers to cabbies and other customers, enlisted the help of Counts and two fellow handbillers, the report stated.
"On the night of May 19 the four men piled into a white Chevrolet Astro minivan and headed for Lake Mead, where Hadland was camping with his girlfriend. Carroll called Hadland on his cell phone and arranged a meeting on North Shore Road, the report stated.
<SNIP>
"Homicide detectives linked Carroll to the crime through Hadland's cell phone. When the detectives questioned Carroll, he detailed the plot, the report stated."
[NOTE: Metro cops also found hundreds of Palomino handbills blowing around the scene in the desert and stuck to the cactus downwind of the stiff. Duh, don't bring your calling cards to a hit or set up the whackee on your own phone.]
<SNIP>
"In 2002, Pete Eliades, owner of the Olympic Garden near Las Vegas Boulevard and Oakey Boulevard, sued Hidalgo Jr. and two business associates at the Palomino, claiming they conspired with cabdrivers to divert customers from the Olympic Garden, which did not offer kickbacks to cabbies for bringing in business.
"If customers asked to go to Olympic Garden, cabbies would use a number of stories to disparage the club, including: Dancers were really men dressed as women, that the club was dirty and infested with vermin, and it was difficult to find a cab at Olympic Garden, the lawsuit stated."
<SNIP>
Complete article at:
http://www.reviewjournal.com/lvrj_home/2005/May-27-Fri-2005/news/26609817.html
The Palomino is/was fairly high priced from what I remember. Tho' they all are now I guess. The Palomino is grandfathered-graced as the the only nude w/liquor joint around here. Shame it's so far out of the way.
I, if I was from out of town, would look at going there as a novelty in a way. Like going to the top of the Empire State Building while in NYC.
Then you can tell people that you went there.
Vegas Baby
08-09-05, 14:53
The palomino was where Ted Binion met Sandy Murphy I believe.
She was aquitted in his murder trial this year.
Recently the doorman was murdered by the owners for telling cabbies the place sucked.
No wonder the parking lot is empty.
I used to love strip clubs before moving to Vegas.
The gangster vibe is way to over the top for my taste these days.
Oh well I hear Disney is taking over Cheetahs next year.
Thats a joke.
Was on the news. However, who really wants to spend $ 1,000 for sex. Not me...
Desert Dude
08-10-05, 11:27
I used to love strip clubs before moving to Vegas.
Ever try Centerfolds? I also enjoyed jiggle joints when I first got to the area 5 years or so ago. Now I particularly don't like the kind of music, how loud it is, and how expensive it is [to my cheapskate budget]. However, I stopped in this place a few months back and had a blast. Definitely a locals joint. Beers are reasonably priced, girls are pretty friendly and have potential for extra friendliness. That's just my take after 2 quick visits, it would be nice to hear another view on it. This is the description from the LVWeekly newsweekly.
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Centerfold Lounge, 1024 S. Boulder Hwy., (702) 564-7865. Open 1 p.m. - 2 a.m. Monday - Friday; until 4 a.m. on Saturday and Sunday. Cover is free with a one-drink minimum. Local's bar with no VIP room, but reasonable prices and friendly dancers. 21 and over.
Vegas Baby
08-10-05, 17:29
I did hit that spot 3 years or so ago. I never went back. IT was cozy and for locals.It does have that small town vibe.
Money is a little harder to come by here in Vegas. So my discretionary income is somewhat budgeted.
I use to live back east and the strip joints in Bridgeport CT were off the hook. F/S in a private lap dance area with S American chicas ran $60.00.
Read the CT boards you'll see what I mean. So I guess I'm a little spoiled.
My buddies drop major amounts of dinero in the strip joints here in Vegas and get very little in return by comparison.
Ce la vie. There is plenty of less expensive action here but you have to work for it. At least this has been my expierence.
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Made a late night visit to the Aladdin and other mid-Strip places to see if anything's changed. May write more details later, but the short story: still plenty of CW in and around, but nothing different than what you'd expect in most major Strip resorts around 2 am. Would be no problem hooking up, but might not be worth a special trip from another part of the Strip for someone not staying there or nearby. More of them were lurking at the slots rather than obviously on display seated at the old "lamp bar." Quality fair to very good, quantity 10-12, turned over with a new batch of 10 or so in an hour. More than a dozen passing by on the front walkway in 15 minutes.
Ted Binion met Sandy Murphy at CHEETAHS in the early nineties.
I agree, the mongering circuit in Vegas (including some serious action in strip clubs) has gone downhill big time just in the last 6-7 yrs. Very depressing. I still know a place or two you can get a bj from certain dancers, but WAY too overpriced to make any sense. I miss the days when dancers were all eager to make you cum in your pants with a single song sucking all the milk you want out of their tits. Those days are long gone.
USTraveller
08-15-05, 02:05
I agree, the mongering circuit in Vegas (including some serious action in strip clubs) has gone downhill big time just in the last 6-7 yrs.So you're saying I should quit going back to the same strip club on each trip because I got a BJ in the VIP room in 1999? The best part was there was no additional "tip" above the price of the VIP room itself. That was a great day!
-USTraveller
L.V.watcher
08-15-05, 12:46
The dancers are very cautious about making solicited remarks if they don't know who you are because Metro conducts undercover sting operations at the strip clubs. I've heard dancers get arrested and had their sherriff card taking away. When that happens, they can't work in this town anymore, then they're really screwed!
John Wayne
08-17-05, 00:29
After not having much luck the first nite, I did end up having a great week. I ran into 3 casino gals all in the 100-200 range for full service and I saw Kelli who is on *** and wow, is she good. Not great looking but really gets into fucking, sucking asolutely loves greek. All for 175 with multiple pops. One gal (Shelly) i met at the Alladin had to be a 9.9 at least and very nice. I guess she felt sorry for me as she said she gave me a deal at $$ plus cab fair as i was staying at the IP. The other gal (Allie) works the IP. She is a decent looking tall redhead with an amazing oral talent. I actually saw her twice. Firt time $$ and second only $ as i guess we hit it off. On top of that, I won about 2 grand in the casinos. Thanks a lot guys and until next time.
Diver
Member #4063
08-18-05, 13:24
Guys I am from the Boston board, wonder if you could share which porn stars are based in LV?
Thanks
Jack
Desert Dude
08-18-05, 15:09
Guys I am from the Boston board, wonder if you could share which porn stars are based in LV?
Thanks
Jack
Good question. Never seen that addressed on this board. Have on other boards, wink wink.
Member #4063
08-19-05, 09:48
Dd
Do you mean other boards than WSG or other forums here? I am aware of the discussion boards elsewhere, but they really don't seem to address the geography issue. I am interested in Asian porn stars and in particular a beauty named Miko Lee. Any help from anybody is appreciated.
Jack
Dd
Do you mean other boards than WSG or other forums here? I am aware of the discussion boards elsewhere, but they really don't seem to address the geography issue. I am interested in Asian porn stars and in particular a beauty named Miko Lee. Any help from anybody is appreciated.
Jack
I do know BIG ASS (Booty) Sara Jay lives here. But you can check out this site.
http://www.tnamodels.com/default.aspx
Occasionally I do something unusual with working girls in town: talk to them. And sometimes listen. I ran into a BCW acquaintance outside Binion's the other day, and bought her a few drinks and listened to her tale of woe for a while. She had been arrested by Metro inside the Golden Nugget, and when I debriefed her on the details it became clear to me that she was targeted with help from the Nugget's security. I know her well enough that I'm sure she would not likely be the sort who would draw negative attention to herself in a casino. She knows how to be discrete and behave herself in polite society; so if anything the Nugget is even more unfriendly to CWs now at the end of the Poster boys’ ownership. I understand Gaming Commision approval of the sale of the property is still pending.
She also related to me some information on Metro running stings with female officers on the Strip to bust pimps. I'm not quite sure how she would know that, but if it's true, then personally I think that would be an excellent use of police resources, and I wish them much success. For some time now the pimps and wannabe pimps have been getting out of control on south Las Vegas Blvd in the resort corridor, creating a problem for everyone: tourists, employees, locals, and CWs alike. Last time I went to the Strip, about a week ago, underemployed men with room temperature IQs were thick and very brazenly aggressive along the walkways in the mid-Strip area around Flamingo to Harmon. One of these ill mannered menacing clowns attached himself to the asses of a pair of very young tourist girls in front of me and began spewing his ridiculous pimp rap on them. They looked like they couldn't be more than about fifteen, I heard them say they were from San Diego, and they were obviously tourists in town with their families. Fortunately I had the pleasure of seeing the teenyboppers blow him off just as aggressively as he tried to reel them in. Unfortunately it is not currently legal for me to shoot these idiots on the spot, as it should be, so he still lives.
When I ran into the downtown CW acquaintance above she was headed for the front bar at Binion's, and I had just come from there myself. I saw another BCW friend inside with an apparent tourist on her fishing line, and she also had an apparent WCW friend out with her. For quite some time now, whenever I see CWs downtown that is where they are. It's not reliable at all, probably only about one night out of three on average, and only one or two at a time, but that is the place for downtown CWs to park themselves these days. Going rates are still just about half the standard on the Strip: instead of quoting five bills and coming down to three or possibly two with negotiation, the tourist quote is usually two to three bills with one and a half or possibly one as the final bottom line.
Actually, I doubt if most of the staff at Binion's would take notice if you backed up a U-Haul to the door and began unbolting their slot machines and loading them. Along with the working girls I watched a scruffy dude empty a jail issued plastic property bag and spend half an hour taking inventory of his belongings and release documents at the bar without buying anything while also panhandling everyone nearby. Try that in most casinos and you'll get a sore ass when security bounces it off the pavement while tossing you from the property. I keep hearing persistent credible rumors that MTR gaming, the newest new owners from West Virginia, are not doing well (again) and are shopping for a buyer to bail them out of it, and some of the staff is once again getting into the habit of cashing their paychecks at the casino cage for fear they might bounce, as they did at the end of Becky Binion's reign. In any case, the employees are too busy fondling their union cards and counting the minutes to retirement day to pay any mind to what's happening inside the old joint, whether good, bad, or ugly.
Desert Dude
08-23-05, 13:43
For quite some time now, whenever I see CWs downtown that is where they are.
Good call. I also was informed by a very cute little dancer from the Gulch, who I had just treated to a Subway, just for the heck of it [gotta keep those karma points up somehow!], that that is also the place the girls go after they get off work next door. Apparently there is something to that karma thing, as that was the same day that I ran into the mexican stripper at 3am hee hee. Ya, it sure can be enlightening talking to some of these girls, or, more precisely, listening for a change.
...she was targeted with help from the Nugget's security.
I understand Gaming Commision approval of the sale of the property is still pending.
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She also related to me some information on Metro running stings with female officers on the Strip to bust pimps.
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Along with the working girls I watched a scruffy dude empty a jail issued plastic property bag and spend half an hour taking inventory of his belongings and release documents at the bar without buying anything while also panhandling everyone nearby. Try that in most casinos and you'll get a sore ass when security bounces it off the pavement while tossing you from the property.
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Closet cleaning for the sale. GCB always likes to see a "clean" joint.
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It's about time! THAT'S where the problems stem from. These idiot Fiddy-cent wannabees. They can't be too good at their jobs - they can't even afford pants that fit!
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Ahh, the good ole days. I remember watching a guy start to nod out at the 'Shoe bar one earlier morning after a graveyard shift that found me in there enjoying 50 cent Heinies. This ole boy's head didn't go down more than twice before two badges were there "checking his welfare". He didn't have three words come out of his mouth before each arm was grabbed by each badge. Looked like a jack-in-the-box the way he was lifted out of his chair. Needless to say his day was done at the 'Shoe.
... back in the day before "they assaulted me!" became a legal defense in a law suit.
... back in the day when those actions were commonly known as "We prefer you took your patronedge elsewhere.
... back in the day when you could end up in the dumpster, in winter, with a fire hose trained on you for a "lack of compliance".
<quote> if you could share which porn stars are based in LV? </quote>
This girl always advertises on craigslist: http://lasvegas.craigslist.org/ers/93078464.html
She's also on the website Muggs linked to here: http://www.tnamodels.com/default.aspx
kittyhunter
08-27-05, 03:49
Was at a conference 1-2 months ago and met Heather at the old lamp bar at the Aladdin. There were a few other girls there, a few 9's, but all business. Some very aggressive ones. Heather was about a 7 but appeared to be GFE material.
Took her back to my room and she spent 2-3 hours there, provided FS including a CBJ to get things started. Very relaxed, talkative (except when she had my **** in her mouth). Recommended. Cost was 3 bills, I think I could have gotten away with $2 but what the hell.
Dd
Do you mean other boards than WSG or other forums here? I am aware of the discussion boards elsewhere, but they really don't seem to address the geography issue. I am interested in Asian porn stars and in particular a beauty named Miko Lee. Any help from anybody is appreciated.
JackOn Eros LasVegas the Thai sisters are advertising Nyla and Luci separate ads,and Ava Devine. Also there are other asians with ads most look hot.
Norman Stormin
08-29-05, 10:59
There has been a noticeable down swing in the number of available crack hoes at the UKE. At first I attributed this to a normal seasonal adjustment coupled with the fact that the A/C is working at half capacity. Danny, the swing shift bartender and hoe monger personified, was quick to dispell my theory. He quickly accounted for the whereabouts of every working girl, much like a First Seargent would account for all of his charges after morning formation. Melody went home to Spokane, Valerie is in jail, Taz is permantley 86ed, Blond Debbie is in rehab, Big Titted Debbie is in prison, Little titted Debbie is at Westcare, and so on and so on.
As the summer has progressed, so have the prospects at the Uke diminished. After the girls went off the menu, Friday night Kareoke was soon to follow. Next was draft beer and the wonderful 16 ounce dollar happy hour. This was at first blamed on the cooler malfunctioning and after a few weeks the storey changed to fouled up lines. Two cans of Pabst for two dollars permanently replaced the dollar draft. The coup de grace was Friday when I asked for a bottle of MGD. Sorry, no more MGD and no more bottled beer. We only have cans of Bud, Miller Lite, or Pabst. I asked for a shot of Jack with a bottle of water. Sorry, only tap water.
As I'm discussing this tragic situation with Danny, an old barfly is patiently waiting to talk to me. After settling for a Miller Lite, he asks me to sign a petition. It says:" Dear Pat, We the undersigned petition you to keep our bar open." Only in America ! The old man remembered from high school his right to petition. He was just a bit confused about the addressee. I verrified this with Danny. Yep, the place is closing. No specific date or reason yet. I suspect it will become another downtown codo highrise. I can just see some rich ***** California widow walking her poodle in this hood.
This is the place to go after midnight. Just buy a drink and hang out play a little video poker and dont be afraid to buy a girl a drink or give her a dollar for the poker machines. Was there for CES so rates were high, but visited again when the show was over and was a little cheaper. Have have t good times as a resultof hanging out at the bar. Girls ask if you are staying at the hotel and go back to your room to talk. CBJ $100 FS $200-$300 depends on the girl and how buisy they are. They normally ask you to escort them back to the lobby afterword. Girls range 7-9 depending on the crowd.
Last time I was in town they were easy to find. Admittedly I've been mostly at the MGM and NYNY --not the best spots but I've been surprised at the total lack of hotties - not even any action on the ped bridges other than 2 or 3 BSWs. Where are the *attractive* casino girls working these days? I've been meaning to hit Aladdin (and wirepro confirms it) but anyone got pointers to other good places on the strip? I'm looking for attractive white women, not skank-looking BSWs.
On that note - I was planning to start a CG thread in this area, but so far I haven't managed anything worth writing about on this trip. Seem like a good idea? I'd like to see a section focused on CGs; I generally am not interested in the SW or AMP scene...
Let me say first off that I've been a quote, "professional," monger for over 15 years. I've traveled all over the world, lived in South America (Brazil = monger heaven) and Asia, been with a thousand different women or more all the way from exclusive high-end private companions to low-end street girls. I've had everything from a blatant Necrochlesis-type experience to the the best GFE a man could ever hope for and more. I've been a frequent visitor of Vegas (I have family here) for the last 10 of so years. I certainly am no fool when it comes to dealing with the world's oldest profession. I say this only to clarify where I'm coming from with what I have to report. Last night, I had the WORST, and I mean WORST, fucking experience with a working girl, EVER. I'm still pissed off as I write this. I wish I had remembered her name but I'll do the best I can in my description so that I can warn everyone here. It might not matter to you if you're a newbie, but if you've been around the block, you want to avoid this girl at all costs.
I was gambling about on the strip in the wee hours of the morning and decided to head home at about 4am. I hop in my car and drive down the strip. The LE activity is heavy up until around 2-3am and the strip really starts to pick up. I see some obvious hopefuls strolling up and down the strip from the Barbary Coast down to the Venetian, mostly black girls, nothing noteworthy. There are two desperate white-trash blonde girls always paired up, sitting in front of the bahama bar or something or another north of Flamingo, every single night of the week. Not interested in them. As I was driving down that area I see this smoking hot piece of ass strutting down the street -- a platinum blonde, early twenties, full figured, high heels, wearing a short levi skirt and a little white top. Damn, I thought, she's better than the average girl I usually see walking down the strip. I pull over partially into one of the self-parking entrances at one of the casinos I forget which and wait for her to approach. As picking up SWs on the strip is never done via a vehicle it felt a little awkward but the streets were so dead it worked just fine. No LE in sight. She taps on the window. I roll the window down and she says, "Where you staying?" "I'm a local" I answered. "You got 300???" Of course I do. "How's 200?" I say. She clarifies, "200 plus hotel fee? ..60 for hotel fee." I figured she was talking about the rental for a motel nearby and I tell her to get in.
She makes me drive down south of the strip to one of the motels near Mandalay as she says she's too classy for the "Black Ghettos" of downtown. Yeah whatever. As soon as we start chatting in the car I get nothing but a b_tch attitude from start to finish. I ask her where she's from. "Boston, been here for 17 days," she says. I ask, "Wow what brings you all the way out here? What other cities have you been in?" She responds,"Why you askin' cop-questions!? What the fuck!?" I tell her to chill-out and start unzipping my pants to do the checks. "That don't mean shit!" she says. "Cops show dick too you know, they can do anything, who's the judge going to believe a cop or a wh0re? I could be a cop too you know, you never know, blah blah blah..." I should have dropped her ass off right then and there. I probably would have if I wasn't so liquored up. It only got worse from there.
We check into a motel across from Mandalay, take care of the finances, and she tells me to lay down. I usually like to take control of what I like to do, which is actually very simple and straight forward. I like to have fun with the tits and have a straight-lay, missionary, plain and simple. What's so damn hard about that? She exclaims, "Don't kiss my fucking breasts! I HATE saliva, I don't even kiss my own boyfriend I've had for six years!" Fuck.. chill out, at least put your tits in my face; I get at least that even from lame strippers. "If you even put any saliva on my fucking tit I will yank your fucking dick off," she says with her hand on my dick (w/condom). You gotta be fucking kidding me. I'm so disgusted with her attitude at this point I'm totally turned off, fully limp, and not planning on getting it up any time soon. She starts complaining that I'm not hard, and starts giving me a rough covered HJ to try to get it back up. Not working. Obviously. She moves to doggy-style as I could tell that's the ONLY mechanical position she's accustomed to. I tell her that I'd rather do missionary, and she complains her ass off, "We're not going to be doing all these fucking positions." After much complaining and b_tching she lays on her back. I try to get my dick back up with my hands before laying it in. In full b_tch-tone she exclaims, "Well if you just let me do my thang instead of fuckin' playing with yourself we'd get this shit done with and I can get outta here! I'll give you ten minutes of the missionary or whatever the hell you call it and THAT'S IT. The clock is ticking!" I am in complete awe and disbelief at this point at what I'm experiencing.
It goes on and on. I think to myself why did I even deal with her? I should have just kicked her ass out the door. To make the long story a little shorter, we do doggy for about a minute, I go limp again since she smells of boston clam chowder reaking up into my nose. She b_tchs and b_tchs to the point I can't even get it hard at all. She complains again. She ends up giving me a yank job which is better done by myself, and kept asking "Did you cum? Did you cum?" about every 30 seconds. "You got 7 minutes," she says. "I'm giving you hell of a lot of time here," she continues. She shut her fucking mouth for 2 minutes and after some serious concentration I finally came fondling on her tits. She complains again saying she's been doing this for YEARS and she's never had such a difficult customer like me.
Immediately afterwards I try to get up off of the bed and she complains yet again telling me to wait and lay back down until she's dressed. I get up anyway and walk into the bathroom to clean up. Not another word -- she walks staight out the door. There's a hell of a lot more detail of b_tchiness I left out here, but you get the idea.
This was the absolute worst girl I've ever dealt with in my entire life of mongering and I hope I never run into her again.
What pisses me off more is the fact that she thinks she's done nothing wrong here. In her head, she was the "experienced" working girl and thinks this is the complete norm to have her retarded "rules" of whatever the hell, have the guy lay down, and do one mechanical position that lasts no longer than 5 minutes. And oh yeah, no kissing the tits. Could this be the norm in Boston? I don't think so. I cringe to think how many johns she's pissed off giving the same attitude now that she's been doing this for "YEARS." She's a disgrace to all the hard working girls earning their dollar the way they should. She was by far the b_tchiest most mechanical, controlling, smelliest girl I've ever ran into. Now lucky for us she's a Vegas resident.
For all you lurking down the strip at night, if you ever spot a young, full-figured, attractive platinum blonde girl in her early twenties (her face resembled the early Molly Ringwald -- did I say attractive?), about 5'6", think twice before picking her up. There aren't too many full-figured blonde girls with freckled faces walking down the strip in the wee hours of the morning, so you should be able to pick her out. Warning, she's a cute girl, you'll be tempted, but you'll thank your lucky stars if you miss this girl.
Shit like this is why Vegas keeps going downhill year after year for the mongering hobby.
Was in Vegas last week of July. After staying in Laughlin 1 night ,cuz I was passing through, Stayed at IP Wed. and Thur. nights. No action in Laughlin. On Wed. night-Thurs. morning about 2:30, found a girl named Meghan after not liking what I had seen from Excal. up the strip towards Ballys. I found Meghan walking into Ballys from the north end. Made eye contact and she immediately came over and rubbed her 36 or 37 breasts against me and asked how and what I was doing. Told her that depended on what she wanted to do. Told her I was at IP she said lets go.
We walked to the Hotel hand in hand like a couple of old friends. She is 30 and very personable putting me at ease right away. Got up to room negotiate down to $$. She said we could do more types of things then basic F/s but would cost extra, you know the upsell, but other than this, it was a terrific time. I tipped her 30 more. She has glasses mid length brown hair tight shirt, not the best teeth. I give her 6.5 looks and 8 for service.
Next night wanted to try amp for the hell of it since I was up from Poker. I went to Kingdom massage grand opening on Valley view. 50 for 1/2 hour. woman was about a 5. Did not speak very good English. I think she was only one there. I was let into room and waited about 15 Min. before she came in to start. She gave a bad massage for about 5 minutes and had me turn over. I said ,"allready?" Negotiate down from 100 to 80 for hj with her disrobing. Not great experience But I tried..Good Luck all and I hope this helps someone. I will return in Sep. Staying at Stardust this time. Will let you know if anything happens.
Geez, Mr. V, for several paragraphs there it sounded like you went looking for a hooker and ended up getting stuck with a WIFE. My deepest sympathies.
NevadaJones
09-01-05, 00:52
I moved away from Vegas last year and was sad to hear that they shut down the Del Mar. Spent a lot of happy times over at the "Big House". I have not seen anything else at the LVRJ or LVSUN sites. Is the place vacant, open under new management, for sale or what?
Thanks
I moved away from Vegas last year and was sad to hear that they shut down the Del Mar. Spent a lot of happy times over at the "Big House". I have not seen anything else at the LVRJ or LVSUN sites. Is the place vacant, open under new management, for sale or what?
ThanksSorry I can't bring you happier news.
From the August 10th R-J:
"Del Mar Motel demolished"
"City closed business in May after police found rampant prostitution there"
"No more hourly rates. No more free condoms. No more Del Mar XXX Movie Motel."
"What Las Vegas officials once called a den of downtown prostitution was reduced to little more than rubble Tuesday, as demolition crews tore down the motel that had stood on Las Vegas Boulevard since 1952."
http://www.reviewjournal.com/lvrj_home/2005/Aug-10-Wed-2005/news/27025457.html
And from the August 25th LV Weekly:
"Even in death, a demolished Downtown motel is a magnet for controversy"
"Barricaded from passersby by a steel fence, the sign stands Space Needle-like amid the bulldozed rubble at 1411 Las Vegas Blvd. S.—the lone remnant of the 52-year-old Del Mar XXX Movie Motel."
http://www.lasvegasweekly.com/2005/08/25/feature2.html
I moved away from Vegas last year and was sad to hear that they shut down the Del Mar. Spent a lot of happy times over at the "Big House". I have not seen anything else at the LVRJ or LVSUN sites. Is the place vacant, open under new management, for sale or what?It's flattened.
Up until the raids, Kammer claims Metro vice detectives ran prostitution stings out of the Del Mar each month. "Metro was there all the time and they never once told us that prostitutes were using the place."
Well... no wonder they had a bad rep for prostitution...
PsyberZombie
09-03-05, 09:26
About Post # 378 below =
Jeez , Vanderley , for a "Professional Monger" who spends a lot of time in LV , you seem a little fuzzy on a lot of details , like which Casino you stopped in front of ; the name of the HO·tel you went to ; even the girl's name
And , you discussed business with a SW while she was standing out·side your car ?? What were you thinking ??
I realize that the fact that she was " strutting down the street " makes it less likely she was an UC·LEO — but did you follow her long enough to make sure she wasn't just pacing back & forth on the same block , in full view of her back·up ??
I think I only have about half of your Experience [ you say you've " been with a thousand different women or more " ] , but one thing I learned early on is =
if a girl gives you Bad Attitude early in the Date , it's best to just 'bail' — even if it means you have to slip the gal a few bucks "for her time"
Finally = the story you relate is " the WORST, and I mean WORST, fucking experience with a working girl,
EVER " ???
So I take it that you have never been ROBbed ; ripped off ; arrested ; assaulted ; or mugged ??
You are One Lucky Monger , in·deed , to have this incident be the WORST ... EVER
Yours Truly only wishes that I could write that a Bad Date with a B1tch with 'Tude was my
Worst Experience Ever !!
How about it , guys ??
Any·one here have a True Story of a horrible experience that will give Vanderley a little 'perspective' on his Mongering Career ??
Any·one here have a True Story of a horrible experience that will give Vanderley a little 'perspective' on his Mongering Career ??
Pickedup a fine ass sw about 7 years ago on Anaheim Street in Long Beach, CA. To my surprise she agreed to BBBJ for $30. Thats when the agreements ended and the bitching started. In LB, I ALWAYS seek to get at least 3 blocks from Anaheim Street or PCH because LBPD infamously cruised the area side streets. She would have nothing of it and started screaming that she was gonna grab my steering wheel if I went any further away. I told her to get out and she started screaming how she was gonna f--k up my car if I did. She said to park(one block from PCH) and we were gonna go through with it. I stupidly forked over my $30. She proceeded to actually give a damm fine BBBJ for all of about 20 seconds, I noticed a shadow next to my car. In a matter of about 3 seconds she got up and out of my car and started walking down the street with some dude. He was carry some sort of weapon...a stick or something. I decided that it was in my best interests to just drive away.
And thats not even my worst mongering story ever.
NevadaJones
09-04-05, 01:55
About Post # 378 below =
How about it , guys ??
Any·one here have a True Story of a horrible experience that will give Vanderley a little 'perspective' on his Mongering Career ??You do this long enough and you have plenty to choose from.
When I was in the Navy back in the 80's I was stationed in Newport News shipyards. I was a newbie at mongering and had led a sheltered life and did not know what sort of sharks were out there.
I had picked up one or two girls out on Washington ST. and thought that was the greatest thing ... pay a girl 20 bucks and have sex, when you are 18 life is simple. One payday I saw a fantastic little blond and we hooked up. She had a place we could go, some old ladies apartment who picked up some extra money renting short time rooms.
We went in and I stood by the couch. She kneeled down in front of me and pulled my pants down and had me sit down. She started going down on me and said that she was shy and wanted to turn off the lights. I said sure and leaned back to enjoy. After a few minutes she turned the lights back on and pulled my pants the rest of the way off. She said to take the rest of my clothes off and we would get down to the main course. First, she needed to go to the bathroom.
After about 30 seconds I heard someone bang on the landlords window from the outside. Being stupid, I thought nothing of it and sat there with a hardon waiting for my babe to come back. The landlady came in and asked if I was done.
"Done" I asked. "Yeah that girl already left".
Well long story short, she stole two weeks pay, my wallet that had basically nothing in it but my Military ID and drivers license and my set of keys. I spent two months trying to recover from that crap and for sure became a sceptical monger after that.
I have been ripped off since but nowhere as bad as that.
PsyberZombie
09-04-05, 08:35
And thats not even my worst mongering story ever.
The guys who have the Absolute Worst Experiences don't live to tell the Tale — especially if they pick up some·one like Aileen Wuornos (http://www.crimelibrary.com/notorious_murders/women/wuornos/1.html)
The worst experience ever related to me here came from a pal of mine named Phat Bastard
It was a Robbery Scheme that was so out·rageous and potentially fatal that it was blood·curdling . He told me about it only via PM because he thought that it could be easily duplicated , and he didn't want the details to fall in·to the wrong hands
PZ, with all due respect, don't jump your gun here. I never incorporate a monger experience with anything violent. Even if I were to get arrested for picking up a plant per se, I still wouldn't count that as a bad "monger experience." I'm simply talking about a legitimate encounter with a working girl, sex in the equation, deed done, a "sexual event" that finished horribly sour. I've been lucky enough to live through a mugging with a gun in my face in the streets of Sao Paulo, Brazil, had some close calls with a working girl trying to scam a planned robbery calling her friends/thugs over by phone over to the hotel room, not to mention the crooked cops in Rio trying to detain me for drugs the girl had in her purse, etc. That's simply not what I'm talking about here. Relating Aileen Wuornos as the worst monger experience ever is like relating Charles Manson as the worst religious cult experience ever. Let's keep this in perspective.
The reason why I'm "fuzzy on the details" is for one, I was liquored up and simply don't remember, sorry. Maybe I shouldn't have been driving in the first place for that matter. And second, you should very well know that it's simply not wise to report detailed locations for spotlight anyway. If I have to explain why I'm wondering why I have to explain that to someone with 700+ reports under their belt. I gave the vicinity, and I figure it was sufficient especially for what I had to report. If it makes my report any better for you, I think it was the Sleepy Inn across the street from Mandalay that this event happened. I paid $50 for the room, and $10 for the deposit. They required a credit card because I had a Nevada license, and I parked in the north-parking lot. The AC was fucked up in the room there as well.
Cheers.
PsyberZombie
09-05-05, 08:35
I never incorporate a monger experience with anything violent. Even if I were to get arrested for picking up a plant per se, I still wouldn't count that as a bad "monger experience." I'm simply talking about a legitimate encounter with a working girl, sex in the equation, deed done, a "sexual event" that finished horribly sour
.... but as long as the subject of " Whorror Stories " has come up =
Any·body else out there care to share on with us ??
One time I called a service and they sent me to the girls apt. After the deed was done a dude came out of the closet and asked the girl a question. He said he was sorry for scaring me, but I was freaked out at what could have happened.
If I meet at an incall I always ask to use the restroom first to scope out the place to avoid something like that, but I didn't think to look in the closet.
In my hometown, there is FS to be had at some of the strip clubs. You pay for a bottle of something ($90-$200) and go to the vip area. I've always gotten what was agreed to, but this summer I had a girl get back there and do nothing and say "what are you going to do about it?". You can't really complain about the lack of service to the manager, even though they know what is up.
All in all, not too bad I suppose. I guess I am lucky.
Vegas Baby
09-06-05, 18:38
I never used this service before today. I am going to post under the proper craigslist post as well.
I must say I am leery of Craigslist. I also try to be cautious at all times. I called this chick about 2 hours ago. Indian/latina mix. Nice attractive pics. I called the local number, I thought it was a child and hung up. Seconds later my phone rings and its her. She sounds nice. I ask how much she says 250.00 but i have a special this afternoon for 150.00. The price was right. She says Ill be over in half an hour.
I give her directions to the nearest highway exit by my house. At this point I was not sure if she would show up. She calls a 1/2 hour later and I give her final directions to my house.
A mercedes benz suv pulls up. I am standing in my garage. I am trying to vibe everything out. A skinny black guy driving. No vibe no pimp action. He drops her off and splits.
Jackpot this chick is fine!
High heels dress perfume nails done. Much better than her craigslist pics.
Into the house in the bedroom I give the money and 10.00 tip upfront.
She slips off the dress. Very nice, she says shes 18 and from South Dakota. Siuox Indian. Maybe. Its all good nice young light brown skin sweet shaved pussy smells good tastes good. GFE PSE all the way. No greek discussed. Small rack but exceptional pussy and ass. 40 minutes of bangin sex. Man I felt 18 again. All covered of course. I was very satisfied. She is easily contacted thru Craigslist.
I must add that this is probabaly not your average Craigslist expeirence.
1 FOR 1
Thunderbolt47
09-08-05, 04:05
What is your hometown? It sounds like fun! Just curious 'cause i like to travel.
I have thought for a long time that there should be a place here to poll the best places in the country for strip club action- sw action- and other action.
Internationally too.
Thanks!
Ukelele On Last LegsLast night I noticed a dumpster the size of a Winnebago in the middle of the parking lot. The kind used to hold debris during a construction/remodeling/demolition project.
KC Questor
09-08-05, 18:49
If you click on a poster's name you can find more posts by them. Looks like Amigo is from Louisville.
Hit up at at 3am one weeknight in the casino for some tandem action. Wanted 6 for both. Probably could have gotten them down but I didn't have an empty room.
Member #1773
09-12-05, 12:02
I will be staying in LV next month. Can anyone inform me how to find a Hispanic provider. I did RTFF, but didn't find.
Thanks in advance.
Desert Dude
09-12-05, 20:02
I will be staying in LV next month. Can anyone inform me how to find a Hispanic provider. I did RTFF, but didn't find.
Thanks in advance.
Ya, good question, there indeed has not been much intel on these hotties. Might try a search on latina, kinda remember a bit of chat in those terms. Seems like there's a zone about a dozen blocks past the Western on Fremont that is pretty Hispanic. I've only scored one once in vegas [more than once in TJ lol]. She was a dancer just finishing up at the Gulch. I stumbled into good luck, that was all...but damn, I'd sure be interested if you find anything out...
Howdy LV posters! I have been RTFFing for a week or two now and appreciate all the great info. Im a regular to Vegas but in two weeks I will be there for my first trip SOLO. All other visits have either been with family, wife or business contacts and though I have seen (and been approached) CGs frequently I havent had the opportunity to pick up. Im going to be there for a convention at the Riviera but Im staying at the Luxor. My update question is. Is Luxor still a good location or should I spend my evenings at another Casino? I would prefer to hunt along the strip properties if someone could offer a current eval of the hotspots. As with other cities, I will glady post a detailed report on any festivities that occur during my business trip. Thanks in advance for the update!
PS. I got lots of great info on Incall Apartments and AMPs for a plan B and C. Keep up the great reports!
I will be staying at the wynn end of this month. Does anyone know how the quality of the girls at these hotels? I assume they will cost a fortune? Would anyone recommand the girls at the main hotels on the strip? any suggestions would be greatly appreciated!
I never used this service before today. I am going to post under the proper craigslist post as well.
I must say I am leery of Craigslist. Not sure if you guys have the service, but a website post's all the confirmed numbers used on craigslist that are agency rob not girl in picture etc. Check out the LA Craigslist for more, & congrats on the exp. sounds like a whole lotta fun!
About Post # 378 below =
Jeez , Vanderley , for a "Professional Monger" who spends a lot of time in LV , you seem a little fuzzy on a lot of details , like which Casino you stopped in front of ; the name of the HO·tel you went to ; even the girl's name
And , you discussed business with a SW while she was standing out·side your car ?? What were you thinking ??
I realize that the fact that she was " strutting down the street " makes it less likely she was an UC·LEO — but did you follow her long enough to make sure she wasn't just pacing back & forth on the same block , in full view of her back·up ??
I will admit I have made the same mistake in Vegas, not sure why, but I know better and preach to others about this. I never have discussed money but I have asked her to go to my hotel. The s/w scene is just diffrent there, The girls stand and sit more then walk with the strip always so damn crowded it would be harder to detect u/c's then in LA where they stand in the same exact spot. Who knows I fucked up. but live and learn
Craven Morehead
09-15-05, 09:21
One problem with hobbying in LV is the high prices. For those that don't want to pay $100+ for action what I've found can work is to wander the casinos & catch the eye of one that looks game, but not likely to be too pricey. Then I ask if she wants to come to my hotel room. When she's inside I tell her I only have $50 to spend, but that I'm looking for someone to see on a regular basis, if she can give me her phone #. When she's in the room she has to decide if she wants to make a quick 50, negotiate up a few bucks (which I might do) or go back out to the street, having wasted 45 minutes of potential money-making time. Like with any negotiation you have to decide how high you'll go & not be persuaded to go higher. Not being a hot-shot executive making $2million a year I can't afford these $250/hour gals.
CM
Vegas Baby
09-15-05, 13:41
Shes back. This is an amazing piece. Craigslist keyword search Amani.
Second vist 2 yards all in. No rush sweet and 18.
Listen up! find the digits yourself please. Its easy. She looks better than her pics.
Vegas is starting to happen. I am seeing it every day. The population is growing and the providers are following the money trail.
For a long time Vegas was almost dry. It seemed to be all locked down with severe prices for negligble service. Many more independants have moved to our market. Prices are now competetive. On Craigs list I still see some average looking providers asking for 5 yards. I see knockouts for 150.00. More info is needed from all.
Lurkers that means you!
BTW This is an actual pic
PsyberZombie
09-15-05, 18:21
For those that don't want to pay $100+ for action what I've found can work is to wander the casinos & catch the eye of one that looks game, but not likely to be too pricey. Then I ask if she wants to come to my hotel room. When she's inside I tell her I only have $50 to spend, but that I'm looking for someone to see on a regular basis, if she can give me her phone #. When she's in the room she has to decide if she wants to make a quick 50, negotiate up a few bucks (which I might do) or go back out to the street, having wasted 45 minutes of potential money-making time.
That's NOT been my Experience with 'Week·End Warriors' , C·M
Usually , the FIRST thing they talk about after you 'connect' with them is their Price
BUT = I'll be splashing down in LV on Saturday
.... and I'm definitely gonna try YOUR System !!!
p.s. to Vegas Baby =
By 'real pic' , I take it you mean that the Attached Image is an Actual Photo !!!
Norman Stormin
09-16-05, 11:17
There's been a lot of mention of Craig's List as of late. I thought it timely that today's Review Journal had an article of a former local journalist busted by the FBI in New York using Craig's List in a sex scam.
http://www.reviewjournal.com/lvrj_home/2005/Sep-16-Fri-2005/news/27217158.html
Hope this helps, Stormin
DocStrangelove
09-16-05, 16:57
Dropped in on Sin City for a couple days recently and found time to check out the scene. Thanks to the posters on this fine message board for providing well detailed adventures. Any seasoned monger with a rental car and map should do just fine. Like shooting fish in a barrell.
Cruised Freemont Street out through Boulder Highway hopefull to run across a wee bit-o-ganja and maybe a knobber. Holy skank a rama Batman. Not much daytime action, but you could score some tonsil hockey if just any old crusty would do. Passed, but will check again later.
Early morning action from a cute BSW standing along west Tropicana. Cute, tall, thin and friendly. Sunrise suction in the parking lot of some apartment complex in West Vegas. Girl was skilled. Didn`t realize at the time it would be the best BJ of the week.
Cruised out of town to do some sight seeing and bought gasoline at some store/restaurant/gas station/brothel miles to the north. Might as well check the girls. I get buzzed in by some gamma might have been hot twenty years ago. I flop on the couch while she brings the girls out. Ruh Row Rorge.
She brings out one girl. Um, lady, Um, older Lady. I`m thinking, how much would they have to pay me to have sex with these gammies. I split with a "maybe some other time".
Had lunch at some other brothel in the middle of desert nowhere. Shared beer and conversation with two guys, one of whom starred as supporting actor in one of my favorite suspense movies. I probably said too much already so I`ll leave it at that. Think they were headed to a better place in Pahump, er, whatever it`s called.
I am not in Kansas anymore.
Here is the deal on the stripper cards handed out on the strip. They have Escort Service phone numbers and you can call to make arrangements. If any of the pics was of a girl currently in Vegas, it was strictly coincidence. Phoney pics. I didn`t try any of the escort lines. Apologies, if I am the last to know.
Picked up a absolute knockout strolling past the Bellagio at 6am. This girl looked six feet tall in fuckme pumps, painted on jeans and tits out to here. Rack job and pushup bra. Bad bad bucket and pretty pretty mug
The hair-do was a wig but this chickie was a serious looker. Claimed she couldn`t get into my hotel without changing and wearing a ballcap. Some stuff about casino facial recognition technology. She gave me some facial recognition in a parking lot off Industrial. Wooo Hoooo, Vegas Baby. Gave me digits so I could bone her later in my hotel room, but I tossed them as soon as I got drained. White freakin hot chick. Don`t know if I`ve ever picked up a streetwalker hotter than this one. Love your town man.
Saw another hottie WSW on Industrial but was still occupied.
Missed another uber hottie snatched away from me on Las Vegas at Bellagio.
Heading through the casino on my way to check out, when I spot a very cute slender young black girl sitting at the slots. She smiles, I smile. I sit down for a chat while her cutie twentyoneish girlfriend comes back to sit down, but leaves after seeing us converse.
She gives me a number that`s agreeable as long as I can bone her, and her girlfriend. Casino security ask to see my room key and offers a polite good morning as I head to the elevator with my salt and pepper dates. Christ, I probably looked like a middle age guy with a couple young hookers.
A Black girl was a real sweetie, nice girl with an easy smile and friendly manner. White girl was a tiny size one with perky lil
a-cups. Obviously new to the business. Looks good, attitude less so. So of course the tiny impatient one gets most of the stiff boning. Our threesome looked pretty hot in the mirrored walls. Except for the fat middle aged guy in the middle working up a sweat. Well, I bone these chicks every way from Sunday then dash off to catch my flight.
I`ll be back,
dog
Wow, Old Dog, you write a mean report. Love that literary style...keep em cuming! I'm looking forward to my next visit to LV to enjoy some of your adventures.
MI.
MrBoJangles
09-16-05, 21:05
Guys,
If you are like me, you don't live in Vegas, but love to go when you can. I have been going to Vegas for the last 20 years and have seen alot of crazy shit, but the hooker scene is the craziest I have EVER seen it. Let me explain.
You probably all know that Vegas experimented with trying to become a "family" destination. Theme parks and ice-cream parlors replaced hookers and smoke-filled night clubs. Yeah, it sucked. Every time I went, I was amazed at the strollers and kids walking the casinos at 2 am.
Then, quietly at first, now at full-steam, Vegas is desparately trying to regain it's "sin city" image. At first I thought it was a marketing ploy complete with the "what happens in Vegas, STAYS in Vegas" commericials. I largely ignored it. The last time I was on the strip, it all changed for me.
Now I usually am in Vegas with buddies or the wife. Not the kind of company you would like knowing you are on the prowl for pussy. But in all the years past, it was a moot point anyways because you could not find a hooker in vegas if you had sacks of $100 bills hanging around your neck. The casinos, especially on the strip, took great care to keep all the working girls out. Seems they were not a part of the "family" style vegas. They were very successful. Only on 3 occasions did I see hookers on the strip and all 3 were walking out side.
On my last trip, I was with a group of buddies on a bachelor party trip. We were staying at one of the nicest places on the south side of the strip. The girls were EVERYWHERE ! and they were applying their trade freely inside the property. These were not stealth operators either. Full on ****** dressed like a working girls in the Amsterdam red light district.
On night, on my way to go to dinner with the guys (about 15 of us) I was approached by 3 hookers from the elevator to the bar. The first one, a large black woman, about knocked me over she came at me so fast. Not my thing, so I declined. She persisted. I thought security would be on her like Al Capone, but nothing. After escaping this one, A very young white girl litterally ran after me near the main slot section.....she wanted to know if I needed company for $100.00. Man, I wish I had the time, I would have punished her several times over, but I was late for the big meal.
I met up with the guys and we were BS'ing about stupid crap when a knock-out WSW went crusing buy the bar we were all standing by (Remember, 15 of us) She caught my eye and I scoped her out. mmmm, nice! This girl was a pro and litterally stopped in her tracks, spun on her heel, and came straight for me. I was actually scared shitless! This chick is going to make me look like a jerk in front of my buddies for checking out her rack ! She walks straight to me and asks "do you like what you see?" For some reason, I now am cocky because she went for me. I tell her "sure do, but I doubt I could afford it" She get closer and tells me "yes you can, and I can handle all of your buddies as well" We got a good laugh and thought it was over, but she was serious as hell. We told her we had to go and she blocked our group from leaving. She offered to come with us. We declined. She offered to meet us somewhere else. We declined. She offered to meet us back at the hotel when our dinner was over. We declined (we were off to Olympic Gardens after dinner anyways)
The point is that the girls are running free again...I think the casinos are now even encouraging it. So don't think you are stuck with going to the Bunny Ranch and dropping $2500 for a hand job and a giggle.
And just to let you know how my trip turned out, I had tracked down a provider on the internet and arranged to stay an extra day out in Vegas. I was able to keep it on the down-low and had a great time. Next trip, 2 days by myself and a little more floor action!
I will be visting sin city on Tues thu Sat from LA for a little relaxation. I never mongered in LV before but visted many times.
I will be there with family and I am leaving the wife at home. But I will have a room a the Gold Coast.
I have always gotton the impression that LV was anti street prostitution but I just read a recent post that things have changed? Questions are the streets safe from UC LE? Recent LV sting ops?
What is so different with chaseing street meat v CL in vegas? street prices? Gas prices? Local CL prices? (1. 00 and under for full price is my budget up to 1. 50 on rare occ)
Track locations? Hooker habits? Danger spots?
Did I leave any thing out? Please, local mongers spit some game with a visting monger from Socali for fun under the sun. Oh yeah LV mongers, if you haven't read or heard by now, that LA sux as far as mongering activities, LE is cleaning up the streets of all forms of whoreing.
Mr. Bo Jangles....
Been going to Vegas LOTS for the past 13 years or so.
Getting hookers has NEVER been a problem if you are staying at one of the decent strip hotels.
I still have yet to find one on the strip for $100 that wasn't gonna rip me off.
What woman will come up an berate you for staring at her ample rack?
What man is scared of a hooker?
Only chumps ever went out to any of the ranchs. You could drop $500-1000 an hour from Vegas or you could take that same amount, go to a strip club that will cost you $100-300, and many of the strippers will give you 2 hours or so for $500. Or you could have a hooker in a casino for $300-500. And either will probably be hotter than the girls at the ranchs. Either way, like I said, only chumps go out to the ranches.
[QUOTE=Speck]
Only chumps ever went out to any of the ranchs. QUOTE]
ROFL.....
Mr. Speck,
I always thought the samething. Although it's legal and protected...why waste the time, gas, cab fair, etc to go and negotiate when you can get it for around $50 - $300?
I have always gotton the impression that LV was anti street prostitution but I just read a recent post that things have changed? Questions are the streets safe from UC LE? Recent LV sting ops?
Not to sound like an ass, but I think you need to read a little more into the Vegas forum. If it's illegal why would it be safe from UCLEO?
The "running rampant" post I'm still scratching my head over. Not that part but the majority of the rest of it...
I've lived out here for 25 years and don't ever remember a time when you couldn't find a hooker on the strip let alone anywhere else in Vegas...
This line - "The casinos, especially on the strip, took great care to keep all the working girls out." - I must have been out of town that day. I've worked in the gaming industry since day-1 and I can tell you this: If they were taking great care to keep them out it was, more than likely, to appease the GCB prior to a sale or during an investigation.
What is so different with chaseing street meat v CL in vegas? street prices? Gas prices? Local CL prices? (1. 00 and under for full price is my budget up to 1. 50 on rare occ)
Nothing much different between the two - you can get busted thru either.
Gas prices around $2.80ish.
CL prices can be found on CL.
If you find FS for a $ or less please let us know. Unless it's with one of the crank-skanks.
Other than that be safe in Vegas - it ain't any different. Hookers can be found anywhere & you still need to be safe with an eye over your shoulder for many reasons.
As far as deperately trying regain it's "Sin City image" remember this is now a town where high-6 to 7 digit condos sell out before they finish building them. And still has, as it has for many, many years, hookers from 12 to 70 right on the strip. Tho' not too many of them will run after you thru the casino...
Tho' not too many of them will run after you thru the casino...
LOL, does following me through the Bellagio at 4am after I win $1k at poker, and begging me to play blackjack with her count?
LOL, does following me through the Bellagio at 4am after I win $1k at poker, and begging me to play blackjack with her count?
Aw no - hell no! She was just trying to buy her good graces from the pit and you had the ammo.
"Hey - ain't that the hooker we tossed last week?"
"Yeah - but she's been good for the drop..."
Decided it was time to get off my ass and just go investigate the Green Door for myself. Well actually, after spending more than a week in the culinary wasteland of LA I was eager for a decent meal, so a craving for Thai food is what got me off my ass, and since Lotus of Siam wasn't open yet when I got to the Commerce Center I went looking around the place just to kill an hour before they open for dinner.
I think I found Cienega 32's midnight barbershop towards the back of the Center, but it appeared to be closed at the time I was there. Lets see now, if I've got this right, it's a barbershop that's reportedly staffed by what appear to be Asian ladies, which is closed at five in the afternoon but open for business at one in the morning. Hmmm.
Walked into the Green Door through the cafe entrance (the door on the left) and started asking the good natured middle aged lady behind the bar a lot of nosy questions about how the joint works. She summoned the manager to offer me a tour. Sure dude, a tour would be fine, just don't try to sell me a time share. He showed me around the downstairs, which was comprised of a series of rooms with comfy looking furnishings which were obviously upholstered to be easily hosed off and disinfected from time to time, with sensibly dim lighting throughout. I asked if there was any private accommodation available if I should decide to be half of a couple with someone, and he showed me to the "private couple's only" rooms. The doors latch, but they have picture windows that don't look very private to me. He assured me that my friend and I would be invisible in there if we switched the light off. I doubt it.
At the end of the tour he gave me a handy little green paper menu with prices, which I have in front of me now. Here are the rates for daily "membership" i.e. the cover charge to get in:
Main level (downstairs): Male $60; Female free; Couples $50.
Local's rates: Male $50; Female free; Couple $40.
Upstairs VIP area (Sun-Thu): Male $20; Female $10; Couples free.
VIP (Fri-Sat): Male $40; Female $10; Couples free.
There are also a variety of weekly and monthly rates listed, ranging all the way up to a yearly rate of $2,200 for a single male or $700 for a couple. I was informed that everyone entering must present identification, and if one member of a couple has local ID then the local's rate would apply. The charge for the VIP level is on top of the fee to get into the main level. They operate 1:00 p.m. to 5:00 a.m. Sunday through Thursday, and 1:00 p.m. to 7:00 a.m. Friday and Saturday. Monday is advertised as "Industry Night" with "service industry personnel" given free admission to the main level. Military personnel get a ten percent discount on the daily "membership" rate.
Overall, at those prices the place wouldn't be of much use for me unless I wanted to significantly upgrade the caliber of my usual low rent companionship, since I'd be spending almost as much for the indoor parking space as I usually do on my temporary fiancées, but I can imagine someone else finding it interesting for the group aspect, or for an exhibitionist romp with a higher end companion from the Strip if your hotel room is shared with someone who would disapprove of some of your recreational activities. When I took my tour there was nobody else downstairs to play with, but I don't draw any conclusions from that, since who in their right mind is feeling frisky that early in the day in Vegas anyway?
BUT... on the way out I noticed something interesting. At the back of the cafe area, which is free to walk into, there are several internet access booths for rent by the minute or the hour. They are each about the size of a small bathroom or a walk-in closet, and have doors that latch while the internet terminal is in use. They have handy looking little padded benches in them about the width of a love seat, and appear to offer pretty good visual (but not auditory) privacy for the paying customer(s) while inside. I saw that 30 minutes of internet access costs $10. Now that's about right for a little modern personal communication with my kind of girl. I might use that, with a friend. But bring a litter bag 'cause I didn't see any place to politely dispose of handy wipes and any sticky drippy latex thingies you might produce while fooling around inside the booths.
The other two similar type clubs in the Commerce Center weren't open by the time I'd polished off my satay, yum neau, and tom khaa kai next door. I'll plan to look in on them and report back next time I feel like eating a little Thai, which happens about once a week or so. For those who don't know it, Lotus of Siam doesn't look like much, but it really is a good place to get a fine Thai meal. Actual food that is; the waiters are unfortunately all male.
Vegas Baby
09-22-05, 11:58
BTW Lotus of Siam rated # 1 Thai resturant in USA by Gourmet magazine.
Skip the lunch buffet and hit it for dinner.
For those who like Indian food, India Palace has a good lunch buffet for $8.99. They are located on Twain between Paradise and Maryland Parkway. I have been there three times and liked it each time.
PsyberZombie
09-25-05, 09:58
Just got back from a week in LV , and I noticed a few new 'trends' amongst the famed W·Ws of the Vegas Strip Casinos =
• The 'uniform' is getting racier
Used to be , the standard dress was 'casual elegant' for the younger girls [ like = heels , fancied·up jeans and tight but not too revealing tops ] ; and switching to dresses or even business suits at around age 30 = they looked like your daughter or your wife / girl·friend
But as the 'civilian' girls dress more revealingly , so too are the W·Ws' clothing
• They travel more often in pairs and groups . No longer does it have to be a solitary woman before you assume they're working
• They're more mobile . Seems like they used to just sit alone at the bar and play video poker and just wait for a potential customer to approach . Now , they're more likely to be on the prowl , walking about the Casino and checking the scene out . This makes sense , because they can scope out all potential customers in the entire place in a few minutes ; and keep up on all the comings and goings of potential 'dates'
But some things are the same =
• Asking price is still at least $$$ although you can bid them down . You get what you pay for , though = these W·Ws are the *hottest* working girls you'll ever find , any·where
• Some Casinos have much more 'action' than others = PARIS is pretty dead ; but walk through the tunnel to BALLY'S , and the place is swarming with them . THE VENETIAN is also always a good spot to trawl [ I only stayed on the northern Strip ]
Later , remind me to tell you the story of how I picked a *gorgeous* black chick named Lisa at Bally's ; and took her back to my room in Paris for a 30 minute session while Mrs Zombie was playing the slots in the Casino
Hey = you go to Vegas to gamble , Right ??
Thanks Psyber! I just got in last night and and am staying at Luxor. I got up at 5:00am this morning and was searching for some coffee when I saw a group of 3 girls, dressed as described, lounging around dropping an occasional quarter on the edge of the casino. There was a guy standing there talking to all three of them and I assumed that he must know them. After finding my coffee and taking a 10 min stroll I cam back by and noticed the guy was gone and all three girls are still there. Again thinking I mistook their "profession" I altered course to get a closer look. Two of them had tops that opened at the belly and basically covered their nipples and their pussy and little else. One of the girls looked in my direction and gave me the "look". I was still a little hesitant because I had never seen them in a group before. I will make a run tonight and see how my luck is. Has anyone else noticed this?? Advice would be helpful because normally I would completey overlook a "group" of ladies. I will keep the posts coming on my experiences while Im intown. Thanks to all the locals who are active posters and made it easy for a visiting hobbyist to enjoy. Look me up when you are in Ohio!
At 5am, if you make any kind of serious eye contact and there is any chance you have money, they would have at least started things off by saying hello or hi baby or something.
The last cg I picked up there.....I had been playing poker all night at Mirage. At about 4am I walked accross the street to my room a Harrahs, showered up(had been out all night long and I was pretty ripe), and took a leisurely stroll down LV Bl to Barbary Coast and back. Lot of girls, but nothing I liked. Soon as I walked in to Flamingo on the way back, I made eye contact with a hottie, petite Puerto Rican girl. Within 5 seconds, we were holding hands as if we were boyfriend and gf. She said she wanted $300, I countered at $100 and we settled at $200. We went up to my room, I threw my wallet in the safe and had a good time for the next hour or so.
And thats just how easy it is.
Thanks Psyber! I just got in last night and and am staying at Luxor. I got up at 5:00am this morning and was searching for some coffee when I saw a group of 3 girls, dressed as described, lounging around dropping an occasional quarter on the edge of the casino. There was a guy standing there talking to all three of them and I assumed that he must know them. After finding my coffee and taking a 10 min stroll I cam back by and noticed the guy was gone and all three girls are still there. Again thinking I mistook their "profession" I altered course to get a closer look. Two of them had tops that opened at the belly and basically covered their nipples and their pussy and little else. One of the girls looked in my direction and gave me the "look". I was still a little hesitant because I had never seen them in a group before. I will make a run tonight and see how my luck is. Has anyone else noticed this?? Advice would be helpful because normally I would completey overlook a "group" of ladies. I will keep the posts coming on my experiences while Im intown. Thanks to all the locals who are active posters and made it easy for a visiting hobbyist to enjoy. Look me up when you are in Ohio!
Lotus of Siam is FUCKING AWESOME. Barnone the best Thai place I've found anywhere. Ever since I moved here I've been eating there compulsively at least once a week. Perhaps I've seen Wastrel there before and never knew...
Two thumbs up on your report!
GettingTang
09-26-05, 02:07
Lotus of Siam is FUCKING AWESOME. Barnone the best Thai place I've found anywhere. Ever since I moved here I've been eating there compulsively at least once a week. Perhaps I've seen Wastrel there before and never knew...
Two thumbs up on your report!
To be ranked the best Thai food place in all the USA, is a huge award. Thai food is everywhere in the US now and it's mostly all good, but to be the best among this fierce competition?? Well it must be out of this world good!
Rub & Tugged
09-26-05, 14:10
Stayed at the Rio. My roomate got FS out of a chick he picked up from the hotel bar for $$. Another guy in our group went to "Rainbow Spa" which was about a 15 minute walk from Rio heading away from the strip. $60 dollar door fee for the hour, then $80 for 2 handshakes, one at the beginning and one at the end of the session. $140 total. The chick wouldn't take her top off, but allowed access under the shirt.
BTW Lotus of Siam rated # 1 Thai resturant in USA by Gourmet magazine.
Skip the lunch buffet and hit it for dinner.
How's the Thai Ice Tea? I love that stuff when it's made right. Or I should say, the way I like it as I don't know if it's right or not...
Used to have a little Thai girlfriend a few years ago. She turned me on to Thai food and I must say, they were both very, very tasty!
I lived by work and would be asked what I was doing for lunch by co-workers.
"Think I'll eat a little Thai today..."
Norman Stormin
09-27-05, 06:58
Anybody up for a weekend Thai tasting sojourn to Pattya Beach?
Hobby knob
09-27-05, 23:27
Anybody ever see anybody from vegastop10escorts dot com? One of my fav. porn stars is listed there. Lelanni. She emailed me back with a price and a reassurance it was her. The pricewas too good to be true if it is really her. But then again she did say it "starts there and goes up depending on time and entertainment.
I'd love to see her in vegas if it really is her.
Any insight?
Desert Dude
09-28-05, 11:21
Anybody ever see anybody from vegastop10escorts dot com? One of my fav. porn stars is listed there. Lelanni. She emailed me back with a price and a reassurance it was her. The pricewas too good to be true if it is really her. But then again she did say it "starts there and goes up depending on time and entertainment.
I'd love to see her in vegas if it really is her.
Any insight?
No intel on her specifically. I think if you read back you'll notice that most if not all 'escort services' are considered to have a high probability of ripoff. In Vegas, not unlike other cities, if it seems too good to be true it probably is. Sometimes other sites have reviews, seems like a solid one with a bunch of good reviews will be a much safer bet.
She's one of my faves, too. I know she's supposed to be one of the sweeter women in the biz, and I read an interview with her that didn't dissuade one from those beliefs. I like her so much I'd even take a chance with an agency. But I won't. Why? Because I noticed her age as being 18. That's a bunch of shit, since I remember her in porn at least as far back as 1999. It's possible it's her and they put that age to attract more guys. But why? If she's a porn star, you'd think they'd advertise that fact. Lucy Thai is on the same site and she IS legit and her porn career is advertised. So I would say not to trust, but if you do make a go of it, I'd love to know if it is indeed her.
The Don ATL
10-02-05, 00:50
One of my first night in Vegas I was able to break away from the late night meetings with two of my like minded fellow coworkers. After much debate and the limo drivers suggestion we headed to Sapphire since the limo driver said that they had the best looking women in Vegas. The driver promised us a $10 dsicount on the $30 door charge, but the club knew nothing about it. So we call the limo driver back and he gave us back $10 each (we only paid $20 for the limo ride to begin with so we are now $10 ahead).
While the club was nice (Good music, large video screens and lots of floorspace...but very dark), there were not a lot of girls...decent amount but not a lot.
My buddy decided to buy me a dance and he went off to seek out a girl. He brought me back a hot blonde with tig ol bitties and she gave me a good non-friction lap dance. Can't remember her name but the dance was pretty hot (at least the way I like them). Good contact (even though not a lot of groin contact). She spent a lot of time with her hands on my shoulder and breats in my face...the whole scent of a woman think had my blood pumping. Good dance , great looking lady, but no action.
Later while my buddy and I were sitting against the left center mini stage when a prety blonde was dancing... In the middle of the dance a drunk and a bit skankily hot blonde approached the stage and beckoned the dancer over. She planted a french kiss on the dancer that made my little soldier scream "Up Periscope". About 10 minutes later buddy1 and I went to the bar and passed by skakily hot girl returning from the bar. She was obviously pretty wasted but we locked eyes. As soon as we did she asked me if I wanted to have fun. Of course I said Yes but before I could ask anything else she had grabbed my wrist and towed me to the back of the club. She told me that we could get 3 songs VIP for $100 or $300 for an hour (which included a couple drinks). I went for the 3 songs and this skanky girl was very agreesive. She nibbled on my ear lobs, tweeked my nipples, grinded my crotch, and worked up the steam ship strong (without intercourse). the top of it was when she start niblling and sucking on my cock thorugh my jeans (which was new to me). She let my hands roam freely and while she had a nice as and decent sized hotters, her heavy C cups were contents under pressure...defintiely store bought. In the face she look like Sunset Thomas but with a little less class.
3 songs later she asked me if I wanted to stay for more. I quite frankily told her that since she already had me in her mouth for a bit (through the jeans) that the only things I could think of were things I could not ask for She then immediately said, "Oh, then you want the Skybox! I can do that an more for you in there. Its real private and we can go for an hour for $500 plus a couple drinks and we can do whatever you want."
Well my two heads debated and I decided that $500 was too much to spend on the first night in Vegas for a skanky hot bonde with pretty hard fake boobs.
I headed out to the bar to cool off a bit and introduced her to my third friend who she took a liking to imeediately. After another round of drinks, she had was lapdancing him upright at the barm nibbling on his ear and saying things that made him blush (and he is a pretty dirty old man). She then reached back and grabbed my crotch and pulled me up a;ong her backside so that my jeans were the only things preventing me from entering her backdoor. She then dry humped the two of us barside for three minutes with her in the sandwich position. (this is the closests thing to a three way I had ever tried)
When I started feeling wierd about the sandwich thing I pulled back, grabbed a drink and headed back to tableside to my first buddy so that we could chill.
The girl stayed with buddy2 for a while and when we decided to leave he had some stories to tell of the offers she made.
So in summary, if you are looking for a SC in Vegas that offers FS, then it would seems that Sapphire at least has the facilaities set up to support that if the girl chooses.
Sapphire
Door Fee was $30
Cokes were $5.50 (or so my receipt says)
Can't remember what the drinks costed.
Quality of girls 7-10
Lap Dances are pretty nice at $20 each
No real action in VIP ($100 for 3 songs, or $300 for 1 hour).
$500 for the SkyBox for 1 hours.
BTW, the skanky hot blonde with fake boobs was named Mischief (aptly named) ...looke like Sunset Thomas with a little less weight, hard fake C boobs, good butt, and throughly skaky attitude.
So in summary, if you are looking for a SC in Vegas that offers FS, then it would seems that Sapphire at least has the facilaities set up to support that if the girl chooses.
Sapphire
Door Fee was $30
Cokes were $5.50 (or so my receipt says)
Can't remember what the drinks costed.
Quality of girls 7-10
Lap Dances are pretty nice at $20 each
No real action in VIP ($100 for 3 songs, or $300 for 1 hour).
$500 for the SkyBox for 1 hours.
Call me old-fashioned, but that sounds like $600+ to find out how much it'll cost to maybe get laid...
Hmmm, now this is getting beyond strange and well into ridiculous. Is it possible that "The Don ATL" is really so brain dead from his Vegas revelry that he failed to notice the immediate replies to his own posts under the "Asian Massage Parlors" thread, and just accidentally cross posted afresh over here? Maybe, I suppose it's possible. I'd like to make allowances for the possibility that he's in a hurry while using an internet terminal while on the road, and I generally prefer to be polite and gentle about these things and to avoid getting unnecessarily harsh in correcting posters making honest mistakes, but I'm starting to wonder if "The Don ATL" may be "connected" to these sleazy goombahs. The mob family that runs the clip joints he's posting on is well known for similar business interests in Atlanta and Florida, and I see he has also touted some clubs there. Could be a coincidence, I suppose. But these places are known to be run by the same outfit, and they've been indicted and convicted numerous times in Atlanta and Tampa for stealing money from the suckers who go in there, running credit card scams on them, and sometimes beating the crap out of their hapless customers. Can't help wondering if the choice of a screen name "The Don" signifies something other than a nickname for Donald. But as long as it is still just barely, remotely possible to do so, I prefer to continue to try to believe that it's just an honest, and repeated, mistake born of simple ignorance and haste, from typing without reading.
So in summary, if you are looking for a SC in Vegas that offers FS, then it would seems that Sapphire at least has the facilaities set up to support that if the girl chooses.
NO IT DOESN'T. What it does have is two burly goons packing heat set up to toss you out the back with the trash if they have any problem with you after squeezing every nickel they can get without delivering any of the promised goodies. For any visitors reading this who may not be familiar with this racket in Las Vegas: the places mentioned by "The Don ATL" are called clip joints. They are run by the mob, the outfit, the family, La Cosa Nostra, you dig? Everyone in town knows about them, and they continue to brazenly scam tourists becuase the local political establishment is on the take from them, as are the drivers who steer you there. They exist solely to rip you off, and you will never, ever get any kind of sex in them no matter what you spend. Never, zip, zilch, nada. It's pretty hard not to get laid in Vegas if you've got a woody and several C-notes burning a hole in your pocket, but these are just about the only places in town where you can be absolutely positively assured of NOT getting any nookie. Nobody ever has gotten laid there, nobody ever will, and you won't either. The only thing about to get screwed there is your bank balance. You will get hosed, big time, and there will be absolutely nothing you can do about it.
Newcomers please read this post:
http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=362864&postcount=260
Then read through at least the first page of this thread titled "Clip-joints, scams, and rip-offs" starting at post #1:
http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?t=2791&page=2&pp=15
P.S. C.32: You're old fashioned.
P.S. C.32: You're old fashioned.
I know. It's a sad state for me.
I guess I should've worded it as such:
... $600+ to find out how much it'll cost to maybe think you might have a slim chance of getting laid if you spend just a little more than that. And then just a little more...
"Ooooh Daddy - we could have sooo much fun if only... Why yes, suga - there IS an ATM here..."
Only a REAL gentleman never runs out of money in a "Gentlemen's CLub". Never.
Add On: The best part of the post was reading about the nasty 3-way dance and thinking back to what a shame it was to be always surrounded by co-workers who wouldn't appreciate the nasty side of Vegas...
Almost as if the bad-beat t!tt!e joints are shilling the boards now too!
PsyberZombie
10-02-05, 07:50
I kinda doubt it . If he was a shill for the Club , his story would have ended with him getting that FS and how it was the best lay of his life
Sounds more like he's a tourist who just barely escaped getting hosed and didn't even realize how close he came ; or how lucky he was to get out of there financially and physically un·scathed
Regulr Travlr
10-02-05, 09:48
For $600 Don could have had 2 top shelf escorts in his room with FS. All it takes is reading this board and doing a little cross referencing on some other similar sites. He could have done this from his room and never had to spend that kind of money to get basically nothing.
Don't get me wrong. I still love to hang out at strip joints with my friends. It is a nice social evening with beautiful women. However there are very few places in the U.S. where I go in with the expectation of getting any serious action. In Vegas it is basically zero. Perhaps too much time spent watching Showgirls.
Unless of course Don has unlimited money and $600 was just a drop in the bucket before some serious mongering. Then go for it.
More than three Benjamins out of pocket and no nookie doesn't quite qualify as unscathed to me, but I'm a notorious cheapskate, so perhaps "less than totally scathed up the arse and left for dead" would be fair.
But you're probably right. The scientific principle known as Occam's Razor applies: one should make no more assumptions than needed; given two equally predictive theories, choose the simpler. And in this case, the more polite and civil response. The guys running the Vegas clip joints, including Sapphire, are professional scammers who are pretty good at what they do, or at least very well practiced. It's entirely possible that he truly felt that if he'd coughed up yet another stack of bills he might have gotten sex, and he's just not had time to read other posts here, such as http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=362864&postcount=260 and the thread "Clip-joints, scams, and rip-offs." But anyone new to town seeing these reports needs to do so. Right now, before you get in a cab and ask "where the action is."
The Don ATL
10-02-05, 21:09
Hey LV Board,
I appreciate those of you who gave me the shadow of a doubt..even if it was wrapped in "he might be dumb enough to beleive" wrapper.
Am I a shill for the club? No.
Am I a tourist? Well no camera and no sightseeing tours...but yes.
And what is up with the name? Well the purpose of anonymity is to keep keep IDs consealed. I will admit freely to being Itallian and from Atlanta and hence the name...all underworld ties are rumored and unsubstantitated in court :) LOL
All in all, I had a good time in Vegas and while I spent more money then I had planned, I had some fun. I never would have spent $500 in a strip club for something I could get at an AMP in ATL for $160....but the girl made the lapdance natsier and nastier as long as she thought it was possible.
I consider myself a true poker player, I always seem more innocent on the outside then I am on the inside.
I kinda doubt it . If he was a shill for the Club , his story would have ended with him getting that FS and how it was the best lay of his life
Sounds more like he's a tourist who just barely escaped getting hosed and didn't even realize how close he came ; or how lucky he was to get out of there financially and physically un·scathed
The Don ATL
10-02-05, 21:34
Well, considering reactions to my first post, I am not sure i anyone even wants to read this one or not...but let me share anyway.
On our last night my buddy and I snuck out of the final late night meetings and headed to Goldrush which one of our cabbies told us was one of the sleezier places in LV. I have been in Goldrush's in Ga and Florida and had good times in both (even gotten FS in Tampa a few years ago). So we were not detered when the cabbie told us that the club was full of ugly older women.
Well we hit the club around midnight and paid the $30 door fee, we were not in the club three minutes when my buddy was grabbed by the wrist by a pretty young asian girl who wanted to sit with him. She called over her friend Mia who was a Hawaiian girl, face was cute but a bit hard like she worked out to much (a 6 in the dark light)....but her body was a strong 9. She asked me if I thought she was Chinese or japanese and when I answered Hawaiian, she really started percolating. I asked her to start dancing for me and had a good time with some strong friction lapdances that where quite interactive even if they were out in the open. After two songs I asked about VIP and she said that I should save my money because I was doing fine right here.
I kept her for five songs which ended at $100 and I have no complaints about that.
About thirty seconds after she walked off a really good looking black girl slid up to me and pushed me back into my seat and told me that she was glad to see me again. (She has a good opening line since I had never been there before). I told her I had not been there and she swore that I had been there withe the previous night. She asked me to go in the VIP room for some hotter action. She said it was $100 for 3 songs (same as Sapphire the other night) and since it was my last night I said sure.
Well the VIP there was pretty good, enough light that I knew nothing real would happen but Cheyenne was very hands and mouth on. She sucked on everything from my earlobs to nipples to crtoch. She spent a good two mintues with her mouth on my head through my jeans. She told me that she had only two rules. #1) if here nipples got near my mouth I could do whatever I wanted except bite them (not a problem since bitting is not my thing). #2) the longer I kept her, the lower south my hands could go (she seemed to forget this rule during the second song when she guided my fingers into place. By the end of our dances she asked me if we could go back to my hotel room (I thought uh oh hear comes the hard sell...no pun intended). While Cheyenne was a solid 7 face, solid 8 breats and solid 9 ass, I was not anxious to here what her room rate was. She offered to go back to my hotel room for $600 and promised to give me the softest head I had ever gotten in my life.
Now if she had offered to go back to my room for $300 I would have taken her up on it gladly...but $600...I could wait 24 more hours to get back to ATL and hit my favorite AMP almost 4 times for that.
I used the excuse that I would not want to wait for her to get off work fro the night for that (jsut to see if she offered on sight options for less) and she called my bluff and said that we could get out of the club immediately. I had to think quick and used my coworker as the excuse and promised to come back and see her the next time (whenever that is).
So I had some fund...and you local LV guys are going to call me a rube for paying what I paid...especially without getting laid...but in the end I was out $230 (5 $20 lapdances, $100 3 song VIP and $30 door) but I ahd some very erotic and stimulating lapdances from two hot ladies and I had a good time.
Well, considering reactions to my first post, I am not sure i anyone even wants to read this one or not...but let me share anyway..
Well, since I ragged on you earlier, this doesn't sound all that bad compared to what some guys get taken for. As long as you don't mind being used as this month's horrid educational example for not reading the information available on the board, for talking to cabbies, and worse, for actually listening to them.
On our last night my buddy and I snuck out of the final late night meetings and headed to Goldrush which one of our cabbies told us was one of the sleezier places in LV. I have been in Goldrush's in Ga and Florida and had good times in both (even gotten FS in Tampa a few years ago). So we were not detered when the cabbie told us that the club was full of ugly older women.
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So I had some fund...and you local LV guys are going to call me a rube for paying what I paid...especially without getting laid...but in the end I was out $230 (5 $20 lapdances, $100 3 song VIP and $30 door) but I ahd some very erotic and stimulating lapdances from two hot ladies and I had a good time.
I've never heard of it, but the fact that the driver wasn't too enthusiastic about the place is actually a relatively good sign. It means they don't pay as big a kickback as places he'd rather deliver you to, and therefore the joint might not clip you quite so hard.
Two hundred and change is close to what a casino girl would cost for full service in your hotel room if you negotiate one of their graveyard specials. You would expect to get sex for that, but I must admit that she wouldn't likely be in your room for very long, so if you feel you had two bills worth of fun for an extended tease, knowing that's what it was, then so be it.
Just please consider talking to folks other than hack drivers for recommendations in Vegas if you don't want to do some reading, say perhaps a few experienced bartenders or something, becuase the drivers do NOT have your best interests at heart whenever their lips are moving. They give "advice" driven entirely by their own private financial arrangements with the places they want to take you.
Glad you had fun with your cash.
I have visited Vegas over 100 times in my still youthful life.
I have partaken of cg's on several occasions. I have never paid more than $200. Each stayed at least 45 minutes. All of these encounters have been after 2am. I don't go with black girls...only white or latina. Easiest place to find cg's is to walk from Harrahs to Barbary Coast after 3am. Do not expect Bellagio girls to go with you for this price. They are looking for 40ish bald fat phucks willing to spend $500+. But you will find cute, attractive girls available.
As far as strip clubs, Olympic Garden used to be the place to be. No longer. Unnattractive pushy dancers. The best place is now Spearmint Rhino. Tons of hot, attractive dancers. You do not have to spend a ton either. $20 to get in. Mild contact during stage dances(press your face between thier boobs and stuff). Tip $1 per dancer and they are happy. Laps are $20. Dances range from mild friction to pretty damm hot, although without VIP, you will not get stick shift or anything. One problem is that the place is packed on Friday and Saturday. Go during a weekday if you can. There are as many as 100-200 dancers, even on weekdays.
Never, ever follow the advice of a Las Vegas cab driver.
PsyberZombie
10-03-05, 19:33
Glad you had such a Great Time on your recent visit here , Don
.... but blowing Big Bucks for 'near misses' ain't what the Locals here are aiming for on this Board .... dig ??
Hey guys how about giving Don a break. He's pretty active in the Atlanta board and if you're ever out that way, I know he can and will point you in the right direction. I'm not a local but get to vegas at least 3 times a year. I love it there, unfortunately so does my wife so coming without her is pretty dang hard. Anyway I love following ya'lls advice and suggestions and am looking forward to trying some of it out as soon as I can get there without the SO. Well, If you ever get to Alabama, hollar at me, I post under the Huntsville, AL site, for some good recomendations or at the Don if you ever get to Atlanta I'm sure he'd be happy to do the same. One things for sure, it's generally cheaper out our way.
happy hunting.
The Don ATL
10-03-05, 22:00
Sorry you feel that way Zombie...but I am not reporting what i experienced in effort to appease the members of the board.
I am reporting what I did and the fact that I enjoyed it, if that makes some of you mad...then get over it.
Maybe as you explain your experiences to other in light of my expereinces, others will learn how to be more dollar thifty...maybe i can learn from the info spawned by other members in respnse to mine.
I certainly would not spend Las Vegas prices for pootang when I ahve a much more pocket friendly market in Atlanta...but for a vacation...sometimes the extra dollars arefun to spend.
Since I am a guest on the LV board, I did not report my findings to sound cool or to brag...just to share my experiences and see that we all can learn from them.
maybe in the future certain members will choose to welcome outsiders and not treat them as if they are wasting your time.
keep on mongering...
The Don ATL
10-03-05, 22:02
Thansk for the support GA Boy,
I don't wish to push my opinons or experiences on anyone.
I am just hear to report on a good time had and move on.
And if any of the Vegas crew makes an Atown appearance i will gladly steer them in the directions that I can.
And if any of the Vegas crew makes an Atown appearance i will gladly steer them in the directions that I can.
Don,
I'm sorry that I ragged on you a little but and experienced individual that apparently did not rtff was too good to pass up.
I'm glad you had fun with the lapdancers at Sapphire but we're just telling you that you could have paid for lapdancers at a strip club and then picked up some company in a casino and gotten relief both for less money that your night at Sapphire cost you.
If you rtff, the locations of available company in various casino is posted in some of the reports along with the going rate and remember when in LV do like the Las Vegans.
Stay safe,
OG
First: no beef with “The Don” intended here, and all due respect to you and your friends and anyone in your family. You had a good time, I take that at face value, glad Vegas could be of service. I don’t want to discourage anyone from posting their experience and observations, and individual tastes and budgets certainly will differ. You don't need to please anyone or be part of anyone's club to post here. There are sections of this forum (well, at least one) where you practically need to subscibe to every dot and tittle of their fevered nutcase political ideology to participate, and I hate that. But it definitely has been necessary to clarify the local situation for any newcomers to town reading about a couple of these places and the manner of finding them. For those reading these reports, please make it a priority to read this post: http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=362864&postcount=260 and the first page of the thread “Clip-joints, Scams, and Rip-offs” starting with post #1 BEFORE you get into a cab and ask to get taken for a ride in this town.
I hesitate to clutter up the board by keeping this matter going beyond it's useful lifespan, but I got curious about the name and did a little research on the joint(s) known as “Goldrush” favored by "The Don" from ATL. They are part of the empire of none other than the Galardi family, which will be a name immediately familiar to most locals here.
That would be the same family currently undergoing a Federally sponsored rectal examination of all it's clubs, and other, er, family business affairs, members of which are awaiting sentencing to Federal prison on multiple convictions for bribery and other good stuff, also alleged by the FBI to be associates of the Gambino crime family and awaiting trial on additional bribery, conspiracy, assault, and racketeering charges.
A lot of information connecting the dots on this chain of “family enterprises” is available in public documents, including unsealed indictments, wiretap transcripts, and trial testimony, but one of the more easily readable and briefly descriptive sources is press summary of the matter, so here are some excerpts from the San Diego Union-Tribune of August 28, 2003:
“The 72-year-old Galardi has since traded the glitzy Las Vegas social scene for Atlanta, where he spends most of his time and owns a home and the Crazy Horse, Goldrush, Masters and Pink Pony strip clubs. He is also chief executive officer of Miss Nude Atlanta Inc.”
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“Even before the raids at their clubs, both Galardis had caught the attention of law enforcement. The younger Galardi was pursuing a plan to open another strip club in Las Vegas in 2000, to be called the Gold Club.”
“During the permitting process, Las Vegas police suspected it was more than a coincidence that a similar club in Atlanta by the same name – one of the most successful and high-profile strip clubs on the East Coast – was at the center of a sensational federal investigation alleging prostitution and ties to the Gambino crime family.”
“Steve Kaplan, owner of the Atlanta Gold Club, was accused of using dancers to provide sexual favors to star athletes Patrick Ewing of the NBA and others, cheating credit-card customers and funneling profits to the Gambino crime family in New York. In January 2002, Kaplan pleaded guilty to a single racketeering count and was sentenced to 16 months in prison.”
“Las Vegas police requested about $10,000 from the Clark County Commission to send investigators to Atlanta to investigate Michael Galardi and his father, who was rumored to be the subject of a federal grand jury probe in Atlanta.“
“At the time, the Galardis' attorney denied there was any connection between the clubs, and the Las Vegas cops were denied their travel request by some of the same politicians now targeted in the corruption probe.”
[End of quote]
I remember the Gold Club case pretty well. It seems, among other things, that some customers took offense when they got their credit card statements and discovered that they’d been billed twenty-thousand dollars for a lap dance and drink. It’s been several years since the family was forced to close the Gold Club, due in part to credit card scams they ran on their customers, but that kind of sticks in your mind, you know.
As long as the FBI’s proctology exam of these “family connected” clubs continues, and they no doubt have more wires and surveillance devices planted in them than the counting room at Caesar’s Palace, I’d estimate the likelihood of getting any action inside at this time to be, oh, how about roughly ZERO percent, or something less than that. Maybe you could have got something in one of these joints several years ago, before they were caught buying local governments and stomping the bleeding bejesus out of customers, but now? Only if you fancy the kind of “action” that can be had while everyone knows that an alphabet soup of uniformed government officials (FBI, IRS, DEA, ATF, US-DOJ, etc.) is a constant audience taking carefully detailed notes on how often you pick your nose inside.
If someone manages to find a good time of some sort inside one of these “family” establishments at a price he’s willing to accept, well then more power to you, good luck, and hats off for scamming the scammers right under the noses of enough eavesdropping law enforcement officials to invade a small country. However, for my part, I won’t be running a bar tab there, or handing them my credit card any time soon.
I’m not a connoisseur of nudie bars, but I believe Speck’s brief description of a few of the alternatives among high end joints that cater to tourists who stay in the Strip resorts is probably well informed.
Caveat emptor y‘all, for what it’s worth to ya.
W
P.S. Oh yes, I found this reference to charitable endeavors heartwarming, and the phrase “consolidating (their) business” amusing. Always a good idea to get “consolidated” and charitable before your sentencing hearing for a stretch in the slammer. It’s from Dun & Bradstreet (Hoover’s) which evaluates the stability of businesses for lenders and suppliers who may be about to extend credit. http://www.hoovers.com/galardi-south/--ID__117372--/free-co-factsheet.xhtml
And for anyone with an appetite for more extensive reading and research on the Galardi strip club scam saga, here’s a place with a few tidbits to get you started. A link to no less than 146 articles on the matter as it has unfolded locally over the past three years: http://www.reviewjournal.com/news/galardi/
“Las Vegas police requested about $10,000 from the Clark County Commission to send investigators to Atlanta to investigate Michael Galardi and his father, who was rumored to be the subject of a federal grand jury probe in Atlanta.“
"OOOH! CAN I GO SARGE??? HUH? PLEASE?!!! PLEASE SARGE?!!!"
"OOOH! CAN I GO SARGE??? HUH? PLEASE?!!! PLEASE SARGE?!!!"
No, you can't; you've been a naughty boy.
But later, after the Federal indictments and all the political and legal heat, they apparently did get approval to go have some fun in Florida:
[Begin Quote]
Las Vegas police made several trips to Galardi's out-of-state clubs to investigate in 2004. From a visit to the Gold Rush Show Club in Tampa, detectives offered this anecdote:
"As we walked in the business, a female entertainer, 'Bobbie' walked up to the female undercover LVMPD detective and myself and grabbed the female undercover LVMPD detective's left breast and my right pectoral through our clothing as she exclaimed 'Wahoo!' "
The detectives agreed to a private dance with Bobbie, according to the report.
"Bobbie faced me as I was seated and used both hands to continuously grab my penis and testicles through my pants. Bobbie put her head between my legs and used her mouth and chin to rub on my penis through my pants," the report states.
[End Quote]
Of course this later request for official lap dance money became an offer the Clark County Comissioners couldn't refuse, since the majority of the Board had just been caught on tape taking payoffs from Galardi's bagman, who by the way, was a former Metro cop.
Now, could they please just remember to also quote us the prices in these press accounts of the police party, ah, investigation?
But since your request for an official southern stripper tour subsidy has been denied, you can console yourself looking at this (not connected to the Galardi mess):
"Okay, Girls. Line Up For Your Mug Shots"
"Lunchtime raids net 15 strippers in Tampa-area clubs"
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/0729051strip1.html
It includes some nice looking mug shots. It also includes actual copies of a few of the ladies' police reports, including prices paid and exactly what the officer got for that, which I find quite helpful. For example, this cutie: http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/0729051strip8.html apparently was paid a total of about a hundred bucks for your basic high friction lap dance, according to page 2 of her police report: http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/0729051strip8b.html
Looks like about two or three of the fifteen ladies take a good enough picture that they could come to Vegas to work the casinos on the Strip if they're short of rent money after making bail. Or to Wastrel's house. But not for a C-note per lap dance.
The Don ATL
10-05-05, 00:08
Whew, Wastrel with the Woodward and Bernstein action. (some of you young mongers may not get the refernce LOL)
Damn...nice research...if I worked half as hard in college I might ahve been able to afford the Skybox experience and then I would have learned the hard way about getting tossed out of the clubs for asking too much.
I will be honest...I am not in any way affliated with teh Galardi family....as an Itlaian I beleive that we should all support "family" activities...but being from Georgia makes it kind of hard to network in and get made...guess I will stick with my Sopranos episodes on DVD,
I need to borrow Indydave's Crown Vic to get one of these special discounts. From today's R-J:
Officer faces sex charges
Police say woman sought to avoid arrest
Las Vegas police arrested one of their own Tuesday, saying a downtown patrol officer let a woman avoid jail in exchange for oral sex.
<SNIP>
According to an arrest report, Ortega was patrolling the area of Charleston Boulevard and Mojave Road about 2 a.m. on Sept. 27 when he noticed the woman walking nearby.
The woman, who has a history of prostitution, told police she was out to buy cigarettes and drugs, the report said. [Dumb girl]
Ortega searched the woman and found a small amount of marijuana and a pipe, the report said. He arrested her and headed to the Las Vegas Detention Center while she pleaded with him not to arrest her, the report said.
Before reaching the jail, Ortega stopped his patrol car to complete some paperwork.
While the car was stopped, the woman asked if he would release her in exchange for oral sex, the report said.
Ortega agreed and drove to a secluded commercial area, where the woman gave him oral sex, the report said.
After she was freed, the woman called a friend for a ride home.
The woman "said she did not call the police because she did not view this incident as anything but a 'cost of doing business,' " the report said.
Police learned the woman's story that afternoon when they responded to her home for a 911 hang-up call.
In an interview with investigators, Ortega did not deny receiving oral sex. [Dumb officer]
He said he was going to release the woman so he could respond to a high-priority call, but when he freed her she grabbed his genitals and said she wanted to thank him for letting her go, the report said. [Dumber officer by the minute]
"Your emotions get in the way," Ortega said, according to the report. "She grabbed me and, you know, um, my wife's been out of town. I haven't had sex in a few days and it just happened." [Really spectacularly dumb officer, apparently attempting to win the lame story of the year award. What part of the Miranda rights warning card he carries in his pocket every day can't he read?]
<SNIP>
The article continues with a recap of other incidents of Metro officers receiving this sort of discount service:
http://www.reviewjournal.com/lvrj_home/2005/Oct-05-Wed-2005/news/3692777.html
Vegas Baby
10-05-05, 18:44
This is so typical here in Vegas. The freakin scene is wide open for everyone.
I almost got shot last year on Mojave and Charleston. Be very careful.
Vegas Baby
"Your emotions get in the way," Ortega said, according to the report. "She grabbed me and, you know, um, my wife's been out of town. I haven't had sex in a few days and it just happened."
I've been meaning to post something about this myself but STILL can't stop laughing after hearing that part on the news!
Yeah - they need raises...
... in IQ.
Hi Guys,
My freinds and I are heading up to vegas for a freinds bachelor party in early november. now, we're looking for a pair of strippers to come to the room and give us a good show. DO any of you guys know where we can find some decent looking strippers that will go farther than just stripping (happy ending), and wont cost us an arm and a leg? Its about 6 guys, so something around 400 isnt bad, but much over that is pushing it because we're all college students. thanks for the help.
If you are looking for leads I recommend www.the************.com . I was recently in Vegas and thanks to some folks from the boards I had great success in finding local independants that were affordable and pleasant. I highly recommend Kitty. Great customer service
If you are looking for leads I recommend www.the************.com . I was recently in Vegas and thanks to some folks from the boards I had great success in finding local independants that were affordable and pleasant. I highly recommend Kitty. Great customer service
A new problem that I've seen once or twice is some of the crap that can be found on C-List post dummy reviews for themselves on that 99% good site.
Walladog - you need to understand how the auto censor/filter works here in regard to some other websites. T E R
PsyberZombie
10-08-05, 19:39
Hi Guys,
My freinds and I are heading up to vegas for a freinds bachelor party in early november. now, we're looking for a pair of strippers to come to the room and give us a good show. DO any of you guys know where we can find some decent looking strippers that will go farther than just stripping (happy ending), and wont cost us an arm and a leg? Its about 6 guys, so something around 400 isnt bad, but much over that is pushing it because we're all college students. thanks for the help.
You and your 'freinds' are IN LUCK , kit123 !!!
Just walk down the 'Strip' and find a bunch of those Illegal Immigrants who are handing out those little glossy 'business cards' with Girl's photos & digits
Collect a whole bunch of them
Then , just call up the girl of your choice .... SHE — and as many other girls that you want — will shortly show up at your Hotel Room !!
p.s. = Let us know how it goes , 'kay ??
You and your 'freinds' are IN LUCK , kit123 !!!
Just walk down the 'Strip' and find a bunch of those Illegal Immigrants who are handing out those little glossy 'business cards' with Girl's photos & digits
Collect a whole bunch of them Then , just call up the girl of your choice .... SHE — and as many other girls that you want — will shortly show up at your Hotel Room !! I don't think they are looking for sex and those girls that show up might just give them to good a show Psyber Please do not give out all the secrets of the strip to just everyone those strippers are hard to find and if everyone calls them I will never get a stripper It is kinda hard to get ahold of those brochures with the dancers on them and they are so hot I don't know if they can afford them for a bach party.
http://www.the************.com/
Not very good to use this solely, but good to weed out the bad ones. Never use someone with less then 5 diffrent reviews from guys who post more then a couple reviews. Way to easy to scam the site, best reviews Word of mouth from freinds or trusted fellow mongers.
"Your emotions get in the way," Ortega said, according to the report. "She grabbed me and, you know, um, my wife's been out of town. I haven't had sex in a few days and it just happened." [Really spectacularly dumb officer, apparently attempting to win the lame story of the year award. What part of the Miranda rights warning card he carries in his pocket every day can't he read?] I haven't visited the link because I honestly want to belive the cop did not say that, I honestly belive if the cop said that they should free anyone he has ever arrested on the grounds they were arrested by a legally retarded cop.
You and your 'freinds' are IN LUCK , kit123 !!!
Just walk down the 'Strip' and find a bunch of those Illegal Immigrants who are handing out those little glossy 'business cards' with Girl's photos & digits
Collect a whole bunch of them
Then , just call up the girl of your choice .... SHE — and as many other girls that you want — will shortly show up at your Hotel Room !!
p.s. = Let us know how it goes , 'kay ??
These are all rip offs. The money they quoted are just for them to show up at your place and nearly all the time the girl is not the same in the pic. You will end up more than double what a CG asks. It is a scam similar to the lingerie joints in cities like Atlanta. Does anybody have a different experience? You may have a better luck going to Bunny' s or Cherry ranch. They do provide transportation from LV. You can visit their websites. If you need a bachelor party, go to a SC and asks the girls. They can tell you. Try spearmint rhino.
These are all rip offs. The money they quoted are just for them to show up at your place and nearly all the time the girl is not the same in the pic. You will end up more than double what a CG asks. It is a scam similar to the lingerie joints in cities like Atlanta. Does anybody have a different experience? You may have a better luck going to Bunny' s or Cherry ranch. They do provide transportation from LV. You can visit their websites. If you need a bachelor party, go to a SC and asks the girls. They can tell you. Try spearmint rhino.Some people have never heard of SARCASM.
You and your 'freinds' are IN LUCK , kit123 !!!
Just walk down the 'Strip' and find a bunch of those Illegal Immigrants who are handing out those little glossy 'business cards' with Girl's photos & digits
Collect a whole bunch of them
Then , just call up the girl of your choice .... SHE — and as many other girls that you want — will shortly show up at your Hotel Room !!
p.s. = Let us know how it goes , 'kay ??
You're an evil dude, PZ! The poor guy's actually going to believe you!
But then again, RTFF does cover it...
Day 1
Arrived last Monday. Rented a car at the airport and headed to the Strat by way of Swenson. Just past Twain there was a WSW that actually looked pretty good. Bleached blond, nice body, wearing a skirt. This was around 6:30 PM. I passed and continued to the hotel.
After showering and a little gambling, I decided to warm up at some strip clubs. Cruised Naked City on my way to Cheetahs. (On this 3 day trip I checked out Naked City at various times throughout the day. I saw 1 LSW on Monday,1 BSW on Tues,1 BSW Weds. All were only 4s or 5s). At Cheetahs, there was little action. It was only 9:30 or so. I had a beverage and checked it out from the bar. Quality and quantity were not bad, but I didn't see any deviant laps going on. One guy at the bar near me was feeding on a dancers breasts, but was told by a bouncer to knock it off. Headed out towards the Rhino. On the way I stopped at a little place called Foxy Girls. This is a small club where the customers and dancers all seem to know each other. The girls were decent looking but not great. About 7 working. I played video poker at the bar ($20-free beer) while watching some dances. I really liked the dive bar feel of the place, but continued to the Rhino. $20 cover, but there was a lot of selection. Beer was $12. After scoping for a while, and turning down a couple of aggressive uglys for dances, I agreed to a dance with a cute girl. Lots of grinding, rubbing thru pants, breast licking, etc. I had a second dance with excellent contact as well. $20 each dance.
I headed out to the north Strip towards Fremont for some SW action. I was pleasantly surprised at the number of girls out. A lot were of skid row quality, but some were OK. I saw some LE around, but not too much. I noticed that the girls don't stay out for a long time. Either they get picked up, or disappear indoors to avoid LE.
WSW Jennifer (aka Shorty) 26 yo. about 5' tall with proportionate weight. Picked her up about a block up from the 7-11 (14th st?). She had short red hair, and at first looked very young. After she got in the car, she looked her age, but wasn't all beat down like so many SW in this area. Agreed to $40 for BJ. (I wanted 1/2 and 1/2, but she was on her period.) It was more than I would usually pay, but she seemed like a nice safe option. Then she said we could go to her room nearby. The suggestion of her apt sent up a red flag, but she only mentioned it at first, then let it go. I told her that I wasn't comfortable with the idea and she said she completely understood. I suggested a car date. She said OK, and suggested several different places. After driving with her for 5 min or so, it seemed to me that she wasn't trying to set me up. I said, "Let's just go to your place. You don't have a roommate or anything, right?" She said no. Her apt was in on the corner of Fremont and 14th. She opened the door and I checked it out ready to bolt. Looked OK-1 room apt with kitchenette in full view. Bathroom in back. I went straight to the bathroom- no one there. She gave an excellent BBBJ. I had a hard time finishing, which is not unusual for me. She finished the job by hand. No rush, excellent attitude, never suggested giving up, even though Mr Happy wasn't being cooperative. I looked for her on following nights, but never saw her again.
More to come...
We're all a little too hard on the newbies here on the boards IMHO. We were all newbies once.
The best thing I can suggest to you kit123 is to go window shopping at a strip club. You're never fully safe calling around a bunch of agencies for a private frat party hoping for extras. You never know what you get, may not be your type, hidden fees, attitude, the works. Go to some strip clubs, find some cool girls, ask around, tip them well, get some leads. You go to a place like the OG, CH2, Cheetahs, everyone knows everybody. There will always be girls willing to give you a bachelor party. Just don't be so conspicuous when asking about extras. When you meet some girls that agree to give you a good party, negotiate. The friendlier and well-mannered you are, the better. You can probably negotiate down pretty low. Make sure you click with them before you agree.
$1.5 to 2 per guy is a normal fee for a standard bachelor party here in town at least from what I've seen. Anything extra will depend on the girl and how much money you're willing to spend. Don't expect sex with a stripper unless you're willing to fork up your bank account. I have some solid leads to a knockout 10 (been on Howard Stern and all) that I've known for years that will give you exactly what you're looking for at a frat party, but you can expect to pay about $500+ per guy. Way more than what you want to spend.
The uglier, the cheaper, the hotter, the pricier. You may have to go look in the lower-end strip clubs to find the prices you're looking for, but hey, you might get lucky with a hottie. Vegas is the worst place for a man on a budget looking for pussy. I like bachelor parties for what they are -- it's a party. If you want to fuck, there are more affortable options around town, a lot of them right there on the casino floor later at night.
If you don't mind what shows up at your door for your party, although I don't recommend it, some of my friends have actually had some success in calling some numbers in the back of City Weekly (free magazines all over town). Just make sure you verify that they are independents and that there are no hidden fees upon arrival.
Good luck, and make sure you report --!
PsyberZombie
10-10-05, 09:47
If you don't mind what shows up at your door for your party, although I don't recommend it, some of my friends have actually had some success in calling some numbers in the back of City Weekly (free magazines all over town). Just make sure you verify that they are independents and that there are no hidden fees upon arrival
Your Post is full of excellent Advice & Ideas , Vanderlay ; but I do have one little correction to offer =
That free news·paper is called CITY LIFE (http://www.lvcitylife.com/)
It comes out once a week , on Thursdays ; although you won't find it on the Strip because it's for Locals
If you want to skip the Articles , you can read all the Adult Classified Ads (http://www.lvcitylife.com/classifieds/?loc=detail&main=Adult) on·line
BTW , here's an inner·resting Article from this week's edition , titled =
" You want a lap dance with that? " (http://www.lvcitylife.com/articles/2005/10/07/local_news/news01.txt)
Day 2
Tuesday of my trip turned out to be fairly uneventful. I started cruising in the early evening and continued off and on until 4 AM. The very decent quality and unexpected quantity that I saw on Monday were nowhere to be found on Tuesday. My travels were mainly Naked City, north Strip ( St Louis to Fremont) Fremont and the Boulder Hwy , and back. The few times I went down Boulder all the way towards Sams, I did witness some activity near the adjacent motels, particularly the Motel 6 next to Az Charlies. Saw 2 or 3 BSW of questionable looks. Its hard to tell because you can't slow down real easily without being obvious to LE. And LE was abundant this night. There were 3 unmarked white LE sedans on Fremont in addition to a lot of marked cars. They also had an unmarked blue minivan. They were mainly grabbing the dealers (not a bad thing) and the hoes were staying off the street.
At about 330 AM I cruised the South strip. Nothing on the street except a handful of tourists and 1 fine BSW/CW entering the Venetian.
One positive note about Tuesday. I called a place for a massage called Massage Pros. It is strictly legit and located just past Decatur on Sahara. It is next to the Las Vegas Athletic Club. $50 + tip for a 1 hour deep tissue massage. It was so good I got a reflexology (feet only, 1/2 hr) on Weds for $25 + tip. I highly recommend this place for a good hard massage at a good price. My masseuse was pretty cute also. Her name was Dawn. 702-220-3322
Day 3
Weds turned out to be an excellent mongering day. I started just after noon on my usual route. The previous selection and acceptable quality had returned.
Let me qualify my "acceptable quality". When it comes to SW, as long as they look OK (a 5 is OK) and their hygiene looks good, count me in.
Anyway, I saw a decent looking WSW on Fremont across from the El Cortez heading towards the Western.
WSW Kim
38yo from Oklahoma. Straight brown hair with glasses. Looked very much like a librarian, but dressed in jeans and a t-shirt. A bit on the heavy side. Did the LE check and we agreed on $60 for 1/2 and 1/2. It was about 2 PM. I told her I had a room at the Strat and she was good to go there. She was very nice and pleasant. We chatted on the way, and I was really happy that I was 2/2 for hoes with good attitudes on this trip. In the room she didn't want to take off her top. She was self-concious because she had some extra weight after having 3 kids. I told her I didn't mind and I wanted to suck her tits. No prob, off goes the shirt. Turned out to be total GFE. She was there a full hour or more, any position, DFK . Once again, I had a hard time finishing, but she never showed any sign of wanting to leave or having somewhere else to go. As it turned out, I didn't cum, but I was still happy witht the service. Plus, it was still early. I took her back to Fremont at 430. Went back to the room to shower and change.
I was up for more mongering later. I started by going back to Foxy Girls. Set up at the bar again and watched the dancers. A pretty girl named Destiny came over to see if I was having any luck at video poker. We chatted until she had to dance. I tipped her at the rail. After her dance, she came over and we talked some more. I asked her for a private dance. We went to the back and got set up. Private dance was the standard $20 and was excellent. Lots of contact and grindage. Plenty of roaming hands and mouth. I had 2 dances, and I think I could have done almost anything. I didn't touch her kitty or anything, but I liked the vibe, like anything goes.
Went out to finish the job I started in the afternoon. It was around 10 PM. There was still action on Fremont. I was doing most of my turnarounds on Boulder just past the Castaways. There were 2 or 3 BSW across from the Castaways, and 1 looked pretty.
BSW Kandy
late 20's from San Diego. She was a little thick, but had a pretty face. Didn't look all cracked out like the other SWs in the area. Once again settled on $60 for 1/2 and 1/2 at my hotel. Once again I scored big time on the attitude. What a nice girl! After picking up jaded, bitchy hoes in LV on previous trips, I was 3/3 this time. When we got to the room, I asked if she could did anything "different"? She asked "You mean,like, my butt?" I said yes, and she said I could have "everything" for $100. I said that works for me. In retrospect, I should have countered with $80, because I'm sure she would have accepted. I was just too excited at my good fortune! It was a great session. She was very skilled at the BJ, she rode me for the straight sex, and I finished in the booty. I think COF would have been included
with "everything", maybe next time. She gave me her digits for my next trip.
After returning to the Strat, I saw security chasing out a CW from the small dance lounge back near the World tower elevators. She was white, blond, a little heavy, wearing a nice skirt, about 35 yo. And she was arguing with them the whole time. It wasn't the uniforms chasing her out, it was 2 guys in suits with 3 uniforms hanging out in the wings. I guess the Strat doesn't like working girls. :)
Ok, tons of cg's out in every hotel and also on the strip from Harrahs to Alladdin. Just the quality was bad. Walking from Harrahs to Alladdin, crossing the street into Bellagio, and back to Harrahs, I got approached by at least 10 cg's. Problem was, most were not attractive. There was one amazing hottie late(like 4:30 am) at Bellagio. She had this small body frame and a HUGE rack. As I was wondering how this could be, I looked down to see her very pregnant belly. Damm. I briefly contemplated hitting it(she was really pretty) and decided against. I rolled back down to Alladdin and then to the bridge from Ballys to BC. I saw two really good looking girls hanging out on a wall in front of Ballys. They did not make good eye contact so I continued on. It was obvious there were hookers, but they were dressed and looked like strippers. One even had implants. I guess as soon as they saw me, they started after me because by the time I got on the escalator, they were right behind me. I eventually passed as I thought they were too good to be true, and I did not feel like dropping $300+ anyway. In retrospect, I should have tried for a $200 or $250 bargain with one only. It probably would not have flown, but it could not have hurt to try. I saw another wsw in Flamingo. Chubby blonde. I wasn't in the mood for a girl like that. She put my hand on her tits and her cooch, but I told her no thanks, went back to the room, and rubbed one out.
Oh, one bit of advice: The girls really gravitate towards the young guys. I am thinking that they are hitting up the older guys at the high end places for big bucks, but for $100-200, they do not want to deal with older guys. I am not a great looking guy, but I do look to be in my 20's. I noticed a couple of guys in their 40's doing the same thing I was doing....walking up and down the strip after 3am. These guys were getting approached by zero cg's. First off, members only jackets went out of style about 20 years ago. Second, if you look cheap...like you are going to bargain....what cg is going to touch you? Its so simple to update your look without buying expensive stuff...501's with plain black t-shirt or polo shirt works just fine. So does plain black slacks with a grey or navy blue long sleeve dress shirt. Wear black socks and black leather Dockers shoes with either. In fact, follow this advice on fashion at other times too. Nothing trendy, expensive, or difficult. Just a way to blend in and look appropriate. So simple, and so easy to look halfway decent.
Any oh yeah, lose the moustache. It makes you look like LE.
Oh, one bit of advice: The girls really gravitate towards the young guys. I am thinking that they are hitting up the older guys at the high end places for big bucks, but for $100-200, they do not want to deal with older guys. I am not a great looking guy, but I do look to be in my 20's. I noticed a couple of guys in their 40's doing the same thing I was doing....walking up and down the strip after 3am. These guys were getting approached by zero cg's. First off, members only jackets went out of style about 20 years ago. Second, if you look cheap...like you are going to bargain....what cg is going to touch you? Its so simple to update your look without buying expensive stuff...501's with plain black t-shirt or polo shirt works just fine. So does plain black slacks with a grey or navy blue long sleeve dress shirt. Wear black socks and black leather Dockers shoes with either. In fact, follow this advice on fashion at other times too. Nothing trendy, expensive, or difficult. Just a way to blend in and look appropriate. So simple, and so easy to look halfway decent.
Any oh yeah, lose the moustache. It makes you look like LE.
I find I can off-set my lack of fashion sense with my uncanny knack at Oragami & paper mache' landscapes. It is quite the ice-breaker in those situations.
Want some better advice? Walk around with a camera like you've never seen the place before.
They don't give a sh!t what label is in your shirt - only what president is in your pants.
They don't give a sh!t what label is in your shirt - only what president is in your pants.
If you can't get to step one(approaching the cg or vice versa) they ain't gonna know what you are spending.
Well, I'm at least (ahem) twice the age of most Strip working girls, and whenever I show the slightest sign of interest in a CW on the Strip, a nod or glance or smile or a "wazzup honey" or a raised eyebrow while checking her assets, any little hint, they are all over me immediately like spots on dice. I don't (usually) care to dress like a complete slob, but I don't exactly strut around in tailored Armani suits all night long either. Maybe the silver-gray hairs in my moustache look more distinguished than most, or perhaps it's just my overall animal magnetism. But I doubt it.
Maybe it's just 'cause I'm attracted to such tramps. That could be.
Still, if it ever becomes a problem for me, I don't think I'll go back to shaving. I'll probably just try to take up that fancy paper folding Orygasmic or whatchamacallit thing. With a hundred dollar bill. Sounds like something I could practice while comfortably seated at a casino bar, without having to remove the cigar sticking out of the middle of my face. I've been meaning to find someone who can silk screen an image of a C-note onto a plain white cotton shirt for me. I don't wear t-shirts around town much, but I'd like to see what kind of fan club I might attract strolling down the Strip with that portrait of Mr. Franklin on my chest. Perhaps with "Here for the convention?" inscribed on the back.
Or I’ll follow along in the wake behind some fashionable young dude and scoop up his discarded rejects for some trashy fun.
I'll admit that I really do miss the days when even racetracks, such as the club house and box seats at Santa Anita and the turf club terrace at Hollywood Park, actually enforced dress codes for horseplayers who wanted to get upstairs, but I don't think a snappy fedora is still the fashion accessory that I'm supposed to use to attract the dolls these days, is it?
If you can't get to step one(approaching the cg or vice versa) they ain't gonna know what you are spending.
So you mean that a poor slob dressed in old denim shorts & shirt with deck shoes won't get hit on at the $5 machines if he appears to be at home with spending money easily?
And if your outside it ain't how you dress as much as it is how you carry yourself. A lot of folks need to carry themselves with the way they dress - others do it with their personna.
They ain't looking for a prom date - they want money. Period. No offense to your philosophy but I think most of the girls will look at it as "That's someone that's trying to dress to make me think he has money to spend" There are pretenders and contenders and sometimes the twain do meet but one does not make the other.
I, myself, thnk that your advice is perfect for picking up chicks in the local sports bar tho'.
As long as you don't smell or aren't offensive in nature you'll have a shot if you can carry it. And lose the 'stache? It's the attitude not the 'stache or the dress code that works.
The reason why they try to avoid us older, self confident (not cocky - confident) guys for 100 or 200 is because they know we will get our money's worth out of them and leave them tired, sore and loose. :)
Walk softly and carry a big stick...
That free news·paper is called CITY LIFE (http://www.lvcitylife.com/)
Thanks for the correction. I meant to say LAS VEGAS WEEKLY (http://www.lasvegasweekly.com/), the free over-sized MAGAZINES scattered all over town.
So this past weekend, I was usually up until 4 or 5am and hit nearly every Fremont St. Casino late night after 11pm...Lady Luck, Fitzgeralds, Four Queens, Golden Nugget, Fremont, Binions, LV Club, and Plaza. My main focus is gambling, but I was certainly keeping an eye out for some action. In past trips I have only ever seen two girls working these places. One crack ho at Binions(When it was still the Horseshoe and beers at the rectangle bar were $1) who I passed on because I didn't want my friends laughing at me. We were all chilling at that bar and she waved me over. The other was a higher end girl at Golden Nugget.
This weekend, I saw nothing. Anyone have any kind of info about what I should consider? I'm tired of $200-300 a night to stay on the strip. I can get a roomy, ok place at LV Club comped. I'm also tired of the sorry state of gambling in general on the strip. The only thing I'm not tired of is the easy access to poon that will come to your room. So if I can find that, downtown is my place for the time being.
Just finished the stroll from Imperial Palace to Monte Carlo from 1500 to 1800. NO LUCK.
I am no novice, but must be too early.
I went into each casino along the way and tried to make eye contack with anyone who was willing. I also was very vigilant during the walk and no joy.
I will try again much later and report any success.
I got off work at midnight, decided to stroll the usual places since it was slow on the strip (to me it means a deal is to be made). Nothing.
It was dead at the Greendoor off Sahara, saw a couple of Tv's in the plaza but looked the other way when I passed them, they called out to me but its not my thing. Got lucky two times in that plaza but no tonight.
Cruised to the blvd, went North alittle bit then headed back south, saw a bsw, good-looking, in some hurry but maybe game but I was all the way in the left lane. There was actually a parking area to stop and pick her up had I been prepared. Let it go.
I am sure there were some deals to be found but I wanted something quick as I was getting tired real quick. Decided to call it a night, not really a sw person but the AMP's here have proven a waste. It was too late for any AMP action for me anyway, I always hit them up when they open, I like em fresh.
I will try a certain AMP again this morning just to see if there is a change. Where they are at, you have to figure they give good service to the locals, its not visible from the main street.
I am not saying the name until after I visit the place because I don't want to be met by anyone. I perfer AMP's over sw action because it feels alittle more safer from the man.
This board is extremely helpful, I used to go to AMP's alot in 2002 (always got fs) when I stopped and came back in 2005, I didn't know why the women acted so strange UNTIL I read this board. this is a good deal and we should pass on our experiences and knowledge.
PsyberZombie
10-14-05, 06:24
Just finished the stroll from Imperial Palace to Monte Carlo from 1500 to 1800. NO LUCK.
I am no novice, but must be too early.
WAY too early , I·L·24
If you want to do some early day cruising , go out at 5 a.m. = these Week·End Warriors don't usually punch in until Mid·night or so , and their prices usally are more negotiable the longer the night goes on
I went out later (midnight) and saw many more girls available. Couldn't make a deal with a couple -- too many restrictions or too much money.
Then came upon a BSW and WSW just leaving Boardwalk. They were just splitting up and going their own way. I followed the white one and made connections. I asked if they were friends and she said that they had a fist fight a few weeks ago and were just making up.
Anyway, she was of slight build, didn't appear to be a druggie and had B cup on top. Got a local motel and did our thing. Not too bad for 1. 5.
Of course, on they way back to the room (where the BAC) was staying. I saw a multitude of good looking SW.
You all are right. I was just out too early.
I went to the Amp, I mentioned earlier and they have closed.
It was off Boulder hwy and lake Mead pwky near the Walmart (which plans to move). that area is going down.
Sorry I don't have anything to report from that Amp. I decided to head back to marks where a new massage place opened (near Sunset Station). It was kind of hidden and the sign said massage, nails and facials. That kind of threw me off so I didn't go in.
I will try some strip action after work, I hate working out of my car and I hate going out on a weekend (rates are more competetive). I will start looking into apartment action, I like rooms and I like knowing the girl knows exactly what I want, no guessing.
WAY too early , I·L·24
If you want to do some early day cruising , go out at 5 a.m. = these Week·End Warriors don't usually punch in until Mid·night or so , and their prices usally are more negotiable the longer the night goes on
Yeah, what in the world were you thinking? At that time, you are better off trying to pick up on one of the cute young ladies that might go eat at Chipotle next to Harrahs.
The only consistent pre midnight action I know of in Las Vegas is:
1.) Crack ho's downtown in the vicinity of Fremont St.
2.) High end ho's after about 8pm all over Bellagio. Expect them to ask $600-1000 rarely settle for as low as $300.
BTW, wtf is up with the use of military time? Only people I know that use that are in the military, security, or LE.
Regulr Travlr
10-14-05, 14:55
BTW, wtf is up with the use of military time? Only people I know that use that are in the military, security, or LE.Actually anyone who has spent any time outside of North America is used to the 24 hour clock. In the US it seems like a military or LE thing. But at least in Europe and the middle east it is standard.
Yeah, what in the world were you thinking? At that time, you are better off trying to pick up on one of the cute young ladies that might go eat at Chipotle next to Harrahs.
The only consistent pre midnight action I know of in Las Vegas is:
1.) Crack ho's downtown in the vicinity of Fremont St.
2.) High end ho's after about 8pm all over Bellagio. Expect them to ask $600-1000 rarely settle for as low as $300.
BTW, wtf is up with the use of military time? Only people I know that use that are in the military, security, or LE.You forgot one other area that uses military time: The medical field.
Sorry if I made you wonder, it's just what I'm used to.
...I'm also tired of the sorry state of gambling in general on the strip. The only thing I'm not tired of is the easy access to poon that will come to your room. So if I can find that, downtown is my place for the time being.Well, I've been known to make use of a room downtown once in a while. Actually I end up taking a room there about two or three nights a week on average, been doing it for years now, and I think I've spent more time altogether in several of those places than some of the current casino management staff. But when there I don't necessarily count on finding a companion for nighttime entertainment inside or right near whichever hotel/casino I'm at. I usually figure on going out into the city to fetch my female entertainment. Sometimes I find something suitable mingling with the tourist crowd under the canopy, and sometimes there are a few reasonably good working girls at the front horseshoe shaped bar at Binion's, but I don't count on it. I'd say I probably see something worthwhile to be had there about one night out of three, on average. When there is a good nearly Strip quality CW downtown (not talking SWs here) the menu price is generally about half the going rate on the resort corridor: instead of quoting 500 and accepting 300 or possibly 200, the better lookers downtown, sometimes including some of the same women, will usually quote about 200 or 300 if asked but will actually go for around 100 or so.
Decent midrange working girls, in between the high dollar Strip fantasy kittens and the 20 to 60 dollar SWs scattered all over town, are hard to find. This is the big hole in the market, in my opinion. They used to congregate around the back bar at the Golden Nugget, especially late, but when that place changed ownership a few years ago they ran them off. The Nugget just changed ownership again, so we'll see, but I wouldn't plan a trip counting on that.
I go to the older downtown joints becuase they are much cheaper, easier to get in and out of with my car, and just generally less hassle, since I've seen the volcano and the pirate ship a few hundred times more than I care to and I'm always running around town. But I'd plan on procuring your fiancée of the evening elsewhere, and just consider it a bonus if there turns out to be something you like right there on that particular night.
I do hook up pretty regularly with some pleasant overnight semi-pro company from inside some of those casinos, but this involves snagging one of the local video poker or slot machine addicts who doesn’t like to think she’s a pro, and is often an employee of one of the other casinos who‘s chronically broke even as she has a regular paycheck coming in. So I think it’s probably not a game for many visitors on a short trip to town, since, while it often takes less “gift” money, it takes more time with the “I’m not a hooker and I really don’t want you to think I do this sort of thing all the time you know” factor to let them get past. They want to get past it when they’re tapped out, and they’ve done it before, but you have to hang with them for a while to let them come to that point. Sort of a thing halfway between a non-pro hookup and a straight up professional date, which I think is a kinda Vegas thing that isn’t so common elsewhere in the U.S. due to the fact that there are several hundred thousand slot machine slaves from a wide variety of backgrounds residing in the area.
Sorry if this isn’t exactly what you want; I could have given you something more clear cut like that several years ago, such as Atomic Liquors for a constant cheap trashy graveyard buffet or the Nugget for finer dining, but this is what I see now.
Thanks for the info Wastrel. I kinda suspected as much. Like I said, I'm a little surprised some of the better looking crack ho's don't make their way a little further up Fremont.
My problem is...I can hook up with all the 35-45 addict/burnouts I want. Most even halfway decent looking. But f---ing some 30 lb overweight woman who has been smoking all night and most likely has stinky coochie from being out all night, and then having to deal with booting her fat ass out of the room when I am done while she probably wants to stay the night....it just doesn't work for me. Seriously, I would rather pay for it than deal with the above.
Guess I am stuck putting in a mid afternoon hour or so trying to get a BBBJ south of LVB, and hoping I see something out at night.
$200 or $400 I will save every trip now I guess.
Well, I've been known to make use of a room downtown once in a while. Actually I end up taking a room there about two or three nights a week on average, been doing it for years now, and I think I've spent more time altogether in several of those places than some of the current casino management staff. But when there I don't necessarily count on finding a companion for nighttime entertainment inside or right near whichever hotel/casino I'm at. I usually figure on going out into the city to fetch my female entertainment. Sometimes I find something suitable mingling with the tourist crowd under the canopy, and sometimes there are a few reasonably good working girls at the front horseshoe shaped bar at Binion's, but I don't count on it. I'd say I probably see something worthwhile to be had there about one night out of three, on average. When there is a good nearly Strip quality CW downtown (not talking SWs here) the menu price is generally about half the going rate on the resort corridor: instead of quoting 500 and accepting 300 or possibly 200, the better lookers downtown, sometimes including some of the same women, will usually quote about 200 or 300 if asked but will actually go for around 100 or so.
Decent midrange working girls, in between the high dollar Strip fantasy kittens and the 20 to 60 dollar SWs scattered all over town, are hard to find. This is the big hole in the market, in my opinion. They used to congregate around the back bar at the Golden Nugget, especially late, but when that place changed ownership a few years ago they ran them off. The Nugget just changed ownership again, so we'll see, but I wouldn't plan a trip counting on that.
I go to the older downtown joints becuase they are much cheaper, easier to get in and out of with my car, and just generally less hassle, since I've seen the volcano and the pirate ship a few hundred times more than I care to and I'm always running around town. But I'd plan on procuring your fiancée of the evening elsewhere, and just consider it a bonus if there turns out to be something you like right there on that particular night.
I do hook up pretty regularly with some pleasant overnight semi-pro company from inside some of those casinos, but this involves snagging one of the local video poker or slot machine addicts who doesn’t like to think she’s a pro, and is often an employee of one of the other casinos who‘s chronically broke even as she has a regular paycheck coming in. So I think it’s probably not a game for many visitors on a short trip to town, since, while it often takes less “gift” money, it takes more time with the “I’m not a hooker and I really don’t want you to think I do this sort of thing all the time you know” factor to let them get past. They want to get past it when they’re tapped out, and they’ve done it before, but you have to hang with them for a while to let them come to that point. Sort of a thing halfway between a non-pro hookup and a straight up professional date, which I think is a kinda Vegas thing that isn’t so common elsewhere in the U.S. due to the fact that there are several hundred thousand slot machine slaves from a wide variety of backgrounds residing in the area.
Sorry if this isn’t exactly what you want; I could have given you something more clear cut like that several years ago, such as Atomic Liquors for a constant cheap trashy graveyard buffet or the Nugget for finer dining, but this is what I see now.
Migrant One
10-17-05, 11:41
Good Morning fellow hobbyists
I am headed to Vegas and have read thru the forum, noting the tougher markets there. I thought I would post anyway to see if anyone can help a fellow!
Looking for BBBJ and/ or threesomes.
I know Vegas is a expensive place for a budget concious guy like me, but any further suggestions appreciated.
You will earn my undying respect and graditude
Plus reciprocal info from my humble travels for Orange County, Calif, Costa Rica, Honduras and Thailand, if desired
Thanks!
migrant
Desert Dude
10-17-05, 14:45
Sorry if this isn’t exactly what you want; I could have given you something more clear cut like that several years ago, such as Atomic Liquors for a constant cheap trashy graveyard buffet or the Nugget for finer dining, but this is what I see now.
I concur. The only place I've been tripping over the ~2.00 good lookers is thru a couple chat rooms on a popular website, feel free to IM for details. That, and if you have the skill and patience to ask the right questions on erosthe website.
Norman Stormin
10-18-05, 11:24
I was bar hoping downtown Sunday with a buddy and we decided to have one at the Atomic for old times sake. It was about 3:30 as Duke was having his after shift buds and we met the new (2 wks) bartender Alexander. Nice Irish kid from upstate New York. Probably Joe's Great Grand child. There were no customers. A working girl came in who knew both of them and had money for her own drink. Duke left about 4 and Alexander was cordial enough for us to have another (and I was curious about the girl).
Her name is Thai. Beautiful auburn hair half way down her back. About 35. Not bad looking from the chest up and only 2 teeth missing. Paunchy gut and fat ass; suitable for head but I could never do her. She suggested we go to the Western. Fine by me as that was the next planned stop anyway. On the way over she propositions me. I explain I'm not up for it today as I've been drinking since 10:00 am.
She's well established at the Western. She knew the bartenders and security guards. Strange since I'm a 3 or 4 times a week patron and had never seen her. In fact I asked her to introduce me to a new guard who had been giving me the evil eye the last few visits. He explained I met the profile of a coin theif circling the casino looking for prey (he was somewhat correct except the prey is not coins). He bot my story I was looking for friends and we are now the same.
We had a few drinks. Thai was eager to tell me she's not into drugs and that she had worked her way up from daily to weekly to her own monthly apartment just a few blocks away. She gave me the address (no phone) with an open invitation to stop by anytime. I headed for the Ranch about 6pm.
After doctoring a mild hang over Monday morning, I decided to barve the storm and pay her a visit about noon. Suprise, a guy answers the door. I asked if Thai is home. She is not. I introduce myself and ask him to tell her I was here. About half way back to the street she calls me and explains she was in the bathroom and he didn't know she was home. She invites me in. Another guy's sitting on the couch, pipe in hand, and greets me with "Hey man gimme a cigarette." Thai takes me in the bathroom and gives me the alibi: the guy at the door is her room mate and the other guy is his friend; they don't sleep together and she has her own bedroom where we will be quite secluded. Feaseable since it's a two bedroom but that didn't explain those 2 mattresses on the living room floor. I don't think so! Then she said they're getting ready to go to work and we'll be alone. I don't think so!
I've been in much worse situations where the "room mates" (4 v 1) knew I was coming and managed to get out unscathed with my wallet intact. I swore to never put myself in such an uncompromising postion again. I told her I'll catch up with her at the Western and we'll go for a car date.
Anyone have any experiece with Thai?
Norman,
You wern't lucky to get out of there with your wallet. But you were lucky to get out of there with your life !!!
Desert Dude
10-19-05, 12:47
Norman,
You wern't lucky to get out of there with your wallet. But you were lucky to get out of there with your life !!!
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Vegas Baby
10-19-05, 15:48
I have been down that road one to many times. After nearly getting shot I try like hell to avoid those situations. Desert Dude be careful. And I will try to follow my own advice as well
Anyone ever run into Christine on BH? I've picked her up a couple of times. Older lady about late 40s. She is very good at BJs. The times locations vary on BH...where i've picked her up. Once by the Castaway, once by Arizona Charlies, once by Boulder station, 7-11, etc.
She usually wears black with those long stocking like gloves. Very classy.
Muggs
Saw something interesting on Arville today...by Palms. As i turned off Flamingo I saw a lady with that look. I've been told some of the ladies stay in that complex behind palms. Anyone sampled anything in this area?
Also, I seen some possible on wynn going north within the neighborhoods in that area.
Worst Nightmare
10-26-05, 00:42
Hello all,
This is my first post on the forum but have been reading it for years.
I went out to LV around the 14th and had such a great time I had to share.
Ran into this beautiful blonde, 5'2 with a smoking body. I'm a sucker for the petite. At any rate, I didn't have a place to go so she suggested a Limo. I checked several places and couldn't find one. Went back and she was still at the bar, it was a really rainy night and not too many people were out and about.
I finally called a limo service and they sent someone right over. I called thisgirl up and picked her up in front of one of the 4 casinos around the Bellagio. $60 for an hour limo ride. 2.5 bills for the beautiful blond. I've neer been to Vegas before, but if there is a way to see that city, buck naked in a lmo getting my brains f'd out is the way I want to do it.
So if you're heading that direction, and won't have a room to your self this is a great option. Just get a number for a limo service before you head out. Nothing beats moving FS up and down the strip for an hour!
PsyberZombie
10-26-05, 07:13
So if you're heading that direction, and won't have a room to your self this is a great option. Just get a number for a limo service before you head out. Nothing beats moving FS up and down the strip for an hour!
Great Advice , W·N !!
You're new here , so you probably missed *this* Post =
http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=301189&postcount=1584
In the case described , the chick [ April was her name ] had the number of the limo with her ; and the driver knew her , too
I have wondered about using one of the discount all-in wedding packages from one of the 24hr quickie chapels for this purpose. Hold the flowers, don't sweat the license, tell Elvis to chill, but go ahead with the ice bucket of cheap champagne in back of the limo with the moonroof for the two hour chauffeured honeymoon tour, and I'll be waiting for your driver's pickup with my fiancé under the lamp, er planet, at the Aladdin in about half an hour, as soon as I pick, ah, propose to her. Bambi is the hot little blonde, or perhaps the tall leggy brunette, or maybe busty red... well, she'll be with me and I'll be at the bar having her lick whipped cream off my finger.
For a tourist already paying to fly cross country to a four star casino resort, and spending three to five bills on the rental of high end Strip professional during their big fantasy "Vegas baby" vacation, it might make sense, especially if there is a traveling companion sharing your room who might not be totally understanding of all your recreational activities. It sure wouldn't be the most unusual request the "Chapel of Love" ever got, and perhaps not even the quickest in and out (of love that is) service they provide that night.
PsyberZombie
10-27-05, 06:27
The last time I used the old 'Limo' trick , the total cost was $ =
.6 for the ride + .4 for a decent bottle of champagne
So how much would a " discount all-in wedding package from one of the 24hr quickie chapels " set me back ??
OK, if you can get the limo directly for sixty without paying a two or three hour minimum, I guess I can't beat that on price. The lowest package I see advertised including the limo is $129+tax.
On the other hand, if someone wants to go the other direction and do something more "special" such as joining the "mile high club" for example, you can do it in a helicopter over the Strip for $499, with room for a private "wedding party" of up to six: http://www.lvhelicopters.com/Heli/Las_Vegas/Helicopters/wedding1.html
They have floor to ceiling windows in their choppers. Here are a couple of clips from their FAQs that make it sound interesting to me:
"Question: What days are you open? Answer: We are open 365 days a year, we never close!"
"Question: Where are you located? Answer: We are located right on the strip! on Las Vegas Blvd between Flamingo Blvd and Tropicana Ave. next to the Bellagio Hotel, across from the Aladdin Hotel."
Being local I recieved two comp nights in the latest strip hotel to open.
Verrrryyyy posh joint, trust me. I am 66 and portley no Brad Pitt. But the only other place I got HIT on more was Bangkok. Never returned any winks nods and so on, but this was all day/night. Security had to be on to this as it was flagrent, guess they figure it goes with the image?
Tuk
PS: any one ever get $$$ on this trade?
Travel Guy
10-31-05, 11:23
I was in Sheris years ago when it was know as the Rick Tally Ho. Is there any update as to the milage. Years ago like 2 it was really great upstairs.
Winter Park FL
11-02-05, 12:10
I met a hot black chick at the sportsbook bar at the bellagio around 7:30. She qouted 200 for an hour of whatever i desire, but somebody beat me to the punch. She was young and very pretty with huge knockers and a nice shaped ass. I was sorry to miss it.
While walking over to caesers, I passed six more hot girls throwing the smile and how ya doing. This was all around 7 to 9 last night. An amazing amount of activity in every joint i walked through. I have never seen so much that early.
Winter Park FL
11-02-05, 12:17
Met serena in the sahara, she was sitting playing slots in the casino. Very cut girl, 5'8" around 130. very nice tits and pretty face. Wanted 4 settled for 2, said downstairs it would be full service, but in the room just gave head. Very expensive cbj, But I had just won big, and had way too much to drink. She had to work at it for a long long time. Ha Ha. SHe earned her money. She left me her number if i want to see her again.
I was in Sheris years ago when it was know as the Rick Tally Ho. Is there any update as to the milage. Years ago like 2 it was really great upstairs.
I went and checked out Cheri's a couple of months ago out of sheer curiosity. You would be surprised, they TOTALLY revamped this place. Everything is brand new. New building, everything. HD TV's on the wall, very large stage with great lighting system, new sofas and chairs, spiffy bar, high ceilings, the works. All of these changes, however, are for the WORSE. The club, although still very small, is very brightly lit, staff in suits standing everywhere, and almost zero mileage whatsoever with below average girls that still belong in the old Tally Ho. Not realizing that certain customers rather prefer 'old school' strip clubs, it seems they felt they had to keep up with the competition or something with all the other mega strip clubs around town. Not a smart move.
I remember Tally Ho with the 6'x6' stage with sticky lazy boy chairs, getting full service in the vip. Those days are no more. $20 cover, $10 for locals. Non alcoholic drinks are all $10. Not worth it at all. Nude lap dances are $25 instead of the usual $20. Again, not worth it. I finished my RedBull and left after a half hour. On the plus side though, the staff there was probably the friendliest of any clubs I've been to in a long time. Great group of employees.
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