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Hummer5205
12-04-17, 18:51
I've seen her several times. She is pretty smart and a nice girl but a bit off sometimes, but is legit and down for pretty much anything. I got the impression she's temporarily down on her luck and needs funds to help pay rent etc. Good luck!

Yaya.Arabvixen is real. I have only seen here once so far. But pics are real and as YayaGogo said, she is pretty much down for anything. She is a lot of fun!

DirtyDeeds38
12-05-17, 10:42
Agree on arabvixen: story seems sketchy. Claims to have never done this before. She has invited me to meet for coffee and then hang out, I have held off.

I see Elizrdu is on right now. Anyone seen her?Every single one of these girls, no matter how naive, how innocent what story they have is seeing more than one of you. 100% every single last one. If you are not capable of dealing with that, then do not sugar date. Not trying to be harsh, just factual. All these girls lie and act naive and such and that is fine. It's part of the game. The really good ones will make you feel special and like you're the one. The less intelligent ones will act like back page girls. And many might just as well be.

Joerdu
12-05-17, 11:01
Every single one of these girls, no matter how naive, how innocent what story they have is seeing more than one of you. 100% every single last one. If you are not capable of dealing with that, then do not sugar date. Not trying to be harsh, just factual. All these girls lie and act naive and such and that is fine. It's part of the game. The really good ones will make you feel special and like you're the one. The less intelligent ones will act like back page girls. And many might just as well be.Oh I completely agree. Was just making a comment on how the conversation had gone.

YayaGogo
12-05-17, 12:01
I agree with this for the most part and always assume there are other SD's involved, which does not bother me in the least as I don't demand (or want to pay for) exclusivity. We aren't looking for girlfriends or monogamous relationships on here, so expect that mentality to go both ways with regards to the SB's. Girls will of course say that for obvious reasons, though.

That said, if a younger girl has just created her account and says she's new I would be more inclined to believe her. I've also been with a handful over the years that had genuine curiosity, were not fixated on the money, were extremely inexperienced, and immediately closed / deactivated their accounts after starting things with me (confirmed with my alternate account). In fact I'm pursuing one such student athlete (track and field) right now that closed her account after only 3 days because guys were so disrespectful in their messages it turned her off.

Yaya.


Every single one of these girls, no matter how naive, how innocent what story they have is seeing more than one of you. 100% every single last one. If you are not capable of dealing with that, then do not sugar date. Not trying to be harsh, just factual. All these girls lie and act naive and such and that is fine. It's part of the game. The really good ones will make you feel special and like you're the one. The less intelligent ones will act like back page girls. And many might just as well be.

Gibbs70
12-06-17, 08:20
Been playing in the bowl for a year, but twice this past week I've been working a "local" girl only to find out later she is over an hour away. I understand discretion but be in the ball park.

Wineandfine says Raleigh, but is in High Point. Says "she likes the drive", I'd bet she has ripped off enough locals and needs to expand her pool.

XoxAubrey says Cary, but is in Southern Pines.

Sharing Intel for those that don't mind travel, as xoxAubrey seems really nice.

Stay safe my friends.

Gibbs.

Lockleaj59
12-07-17, 12:03
Hazzeb. Very nice looking young lady. We chatted made arrangements for her to come to me in Faye it was all going well until she mentioned she gets. 2 just for going out to dinner that's not including the price of the meal. I'm like did I mention I accidentally messaged you?


Been playing in the bowl for a year, but twice this past week I've been working a "local" girl only to find out later she is over an hour away. I understand discretion but be in the ball park.

Wineandfine says Raleigh, but is in High Point. Says "she likes the drive", I'd bet she has ripped off enough locals and needs to expand her pool.

XoxAubrey says Cary, but is in Southern Pines.

Sharing Intel for those that don't mind travel, as xoxAubrey seems really nice.

Stay safe my friends.

Gibbs.

Righton1960
12-08-17, 23:06
On the flipside, I put a different Triangle town in my location and tend to look more in the neighboring towns anyway. Lowers the potential to run into one another in the wild. Plenty of the POTs have legit reasons to play out of town too. I just make that part of the early conversation. I figure if she says she's in Raleigh, them I don't need to factor in her traveling to me, you know?


Been playing in the bowl for a year, but twice this past week I've been working a "local" girl only to find out later she is over an hour away. I understand discretion but be in the ball park.

Wineandfine says Raleigh, but is in High Point. Says "she likes the drive", I'd bet she has ripped off enough locals and needs to expand her pool.

XoxAubrey says Cary, but is in Southern Pines.

Sharing Intel for those that don't mind travel, as xoxAubrey seems really nice.

Stay safe my friends.

Gibbs.

Gibbs70
12-11-17, 10:34
Pretty sure I was in the normal range offering $$, but in the last two weeks have a number of SBs walking away saying they generally get more. Am I a cheap bastard? I figured by the time I buy dinner, get a room, and give the allowance, it's a pricey date, but at least 5 in two weeks saying they might "lower" to $$$ to see me, but that is their lowest.

Would love feedback / discussion with group on current expectations.

Gibbs.

YayaGogo
12-11-17, 15:48
Pretty sure I was in the normal range offering $$, but in the last two weeks have a number of SBs walking away saying they generally get more. Am I a cheap bastard? I figured by the time I buy dinner, get a room, and give the allowance, it's a pricey date, but at least 5 in two weeks saying they might "lower" to $$$ to see me, but that is their lowest.

Would love feedback / discussion with group on current expectations.

Gibbs.Some thoughts on this.

- Remember SA is a marketplace, sometimes the market goes higher and sometimes it goes lower. You might just be in a rising market.

- Most times it depends on the SB's you are approaching. Desirable traits such as youth, looks, experience, body type, ethnicity, etc generate a lot more interest from SD's = higher meet prices.

- This is a negotiation. I've met plenty of SB's that open at a range higher than what I'm willing to pay then lower it afterward, allowing the arrangement to happen. If you have any game then use it and close the deal.

- Are you offering a one time meet or an ongoing arrangement. Many girls will go lower per meet if you are meeting weekly, something I like to do.

- When girls start on the site they have an idea of what a SD SHOULD be in their mind (think Christian Grey) and they are flooded with offers (some real and some bs) so their sense of worth is at its highest. Once some time has passed reality hits them and many lower their asking price. Some will not.

- There are a lot more factors imo, but mostly remember that this is a numbers game! There are MANY more SB's in this area than there are SD's, so if one or ten or twenty don't like your budget simply go to the next one or lower your expectations.

- For the record, that is within the range of what I donate per meet. Good luck!

Yaya.

Gibbs70
12-11-17, 18:36
Be careful out there. This one took off with half the $ while I was getting room.

https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/bd9aae95-4d0f-4efe-b574-caceb3ff48d6

Gibbs70
12-11-17, 18:40
Thanks Yaya. I do offer on-going as this typically generates lower ranges vs one time. Game has worked for a year at the stated level. Many successful negotiations, so wondering if others were seeing the same increase. Or maybe it's the Christmas budget. LOL.

Stay safe,

Gibbs.


Some thoughts on this.

- Remember SA is a marketplace, sometimes the market goes higher and sometimes it goes lower. You might just be in a rising market.

- Most times it depends on the SB's you are approaching. Desirable traits such as youth, looks, experience, body type, ethnicity, etc generate a lot more interest from SD's = higher meet prices.

- This is a negotiation. I've met plenty of SB's that open at a range higher than what I'm willing to pay then lower it afterward, allowing the arrangement to happen. If you have any game then use it and close the deal.

- Are you offering a one time meet or an ongoing arrangement. Many girls will go lower per meet if you are meeting weekly, something I like to do.

- When girls start on the site they have an idea of what a SD SHOULD be in their mind (think Christian Grey) and they are flooded with offers (some real and some bs) so their sense of worth is at its highest. Once some time has passed reality hits them and many lower their asking price. Some will not.

- There are a lot more factors imo, but mostly remember that this is a numbers game! There are MANY more SB's in this area than there are SD's, so if one or ten or twenty don't like your budget simply go to the next one or lower your expectations.

- For the record, that is within the range of what I donate per meet. Good luck!

Yaya.

Member #5790
12-11-17, 21:26
I mentally grade them all A-D. A for young, gorgeous, desirable girls down to D for older, bigger, less attractive, far away, whatever. I might offer more if I catch the attention of an outstanding A girl, but $$ has been good for me for many A-B girls. I offer 120-150 for the C-D range and have been successful with that as well, but it's not guaranteed. I've also met two girls several times each basically for free (just cost of meal and hotel) because nobody else paid them any attention (thanks guys! I also had one really great girl from out of town for gas money and I let her stay in the hotel overnight. Risky, I know, but it turned out fine and I got to see her again the next morning too before checkout. There's all kinds on this site and they're all looking for / will accept something different.


Thanks Yaya. I do offer on-going as this typically generates lower ranges vs one time. Game has worked for a year at the stated level. Many successful negotiations, so wondering if others were seeing the same increase. Or maybe it's the Christmas budget. LOL.

Stay safe,

Gibbs.

DirtyDeeds38
12-12-17, 13:04
My two cents based on a number of years of experience:

1. Anyone offering more than $$ per meet is a fool and sucker. Supply and demand and if you have many SB contacts and monitor the desperation of their communications, you KNOW the supply is abundant. If it's an overnight and they are exceptional, I might go more. Many girls will follow up with me and do not even care if I offer an allowance sometimes. They just want to hookup. It happens. So unless you're really like some slob, or nasty, you can find girls into you. Anything goes on the site. The supply is insane and offering too much just ruins it for them and all us.

2. Anyone paying a girl for a meet and greet a dime is a man fool. Lots of girls like to try and play that game. Do not fall for it. You're fool if you do. It's sugar for sugar, period. I don't need to pay some girl for simply having a drink, or dinner. Fuck that! I pay her for her alone time, but not sex either. I only go with girls who would want the sex regardless of sugar. IE, they are into the sex just as much, if not more that me.

3. Protect yourself at all times. Many of these girls are literally bat shit crazy and I do not say that lightly. They can get crazy and try and extort, or think they are into you and get even crazier.

Those of you offering up 400-500 are genuine fat whales to the girls and are pissing your money away.

ArmyNiceGuy
12-12-17, 13:29
Pretty sure I was in the normal range offering $$, but in the last two weeks have a number of SBs walking away saying they generally get more. Am I a cheap bastard? I figured by the time I buy dinner, get a room, and give the allowance, it's a pricey date, but at least 5 in two weeks saying they might "lower" to $$$ to see me, but that is their lowest.

Would love feedback / discussion with group on current expectations.

Gibbs.One thing to keep in mind this time of year, it's the last couple weeks of the semester so a lot of college babies are very busy right now with exams and papers. As such their free time may be more scarce and therefore more expensive. I would hold off until next week or even after the holidays and see if the market lowers.

Gibbs70
12-16-17, 20:45
Anyone experience this one? Might be a little too freaky for me, but I must say I am intrigued.

https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/a231f874-c452-8bab-242f-341c2a20d5f9

Triad Traveler
12-20-17, 00:37
Correction. 500.She is a pro for sure. I dreAmed of her in Greensboro once. Watched her get in and out of pimps car. Damage was 2. 00. But she rushed in and out.

OrdinaryJohn
12-27-17, 22:24
Hey All.

I've had good luck in the Charlotte area on SA, but going to be in Raleigh on business in a couple of weeks. Looking for someone I can hook up with while in town. I'd be glad to trade info on a couple girls in Charlotte.

Thanks in advance!

Gibbs70
01-26-18, 15:31
Anyone seeing an increase in number collectors?* 2 in the last 2 days asking fir name and number so they "can call me". Will not provide me their nunber, but closed profile before I could get this written. * I remember the one tag line was something like: ready for the flip.

For someone interested in slightly bigger girls, this one is sweet and really wants a Daddy. * Some initial restrictions,* but sounds like she has kink needs when she finds the right one. * I tried, but need petite. * No M&G, just got to know each other in the room. * A little shy, but really wants to please.

*https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/0c65814c-3af4-7a88-2b35-6e4946316911.

*.

Anyone have experience with this one?* Looks TGTBT, and asked me if I was free for dinner on first contact yesterday.

*https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/f548a3be-c370-469d-a5e7-638cbd71fc95.

Be safe,

Gibbs.

Member #5790
01-27-18, 21:08
I'm finding some but I agree it's been quiet. I've also noticed the increase in number collectors. I've had two in the last couple of days as well. The sugar bowl is still way better than BP though.


Anyone seeing an increase in number collectors?* 2 in the last 2 days asking fir name and number so they "can call me". Will not provide me their nunber, but closed profile before I could get this written. * I remember the one tag line was something like: ready for the flip.

For someone interested in slightly bigger girls, this one is sweet and really wants a Daddy. * Some initial restrictions,* but sounds like she has kink needs when she finds the right one. * I tried, but need petite. * No M&G, just got to know each other in the room. * A little shy, but really wants to please.

*https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/0c65814c-3af4-7a88-2b35-6e4946316911.

*.

Anyone have experience with this one?* Looks TGTBT, and asked me if I was free for dinner on first contact yesterday.

*https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/f548a3be-c370-469d-a5e7-638cbd71fc95.

Be safe,

Gibbs.

YayaGogo
01-30-18, 12:17
Anyone seeing an increase in number collectors?* 2 in the last 2 days asking fir name and number so they "can call me". Will not provide me their nunber, but closed profile before I could get this written. * I remember the one tag line was something like: ready for the flip.

Anyone have experience with this one?* Looks TGTBT, and asked me if I was free for dinner on first contact yesterday.

*https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/f548a3be-c370-469d-a5e7-638cbd71fc95.

Be safe,

Gibbs.It could be that they are wary of posting anything explicit on the SA message system, or they are really careful. You want their number anyways so I say just go ahead and give it if you're interested and they ask. I assume you're not using your real name or main number and use a burner phone or number app like GV. I've had girls contact me weeks or months after our initial convo died out, so who knows their motivation?

I've been contacted by the girl you inquired about but have been way too busy to follow up and tbh I'm not sure which of the two is behind the account haha. If you don't want to invest time or money in dinner for something uncertain, offer a coffee or juice bar meet instead. If she balks, maybe she just wanted a free meal. Let us all know how it worked out!

Yaya.

YayaGogo
02-02-18, 13:35
Just to let you all know, some scammers have recently tried to target me with the underage girl scam. Don't fall for it!

Here's how it worked: An over 18 account is set up on SA which they then use to message you and move it on to text. While texting they try to get a pic from you and your name. The girl eventually sends private pics unsolicited, at which point I asked her to confirm her age. She says she's almost 17 but really into older guys yada yada. I say not interested, report her account and block her number. The next day I get a text from her 'dad' from another number saying he's going to get me arrested for child porn and to call him immediately. I'm aware of the scam and I ignore him. Later in the day I get a voicemail from a 'sheriff' in another state saying they're starting the arrest process and I should call him back immediately (to a number not matching the caller I'd) to tell my side of the story and to settle this. I googled the number on the caller I'd which was spoofed from an actual LE office in another state to make it look official, so I call back at the official number (not at the alternate number left in the VM) I ask to speak to the sheriff by name and it's a different guy that has no idea what I'm talking about. He tells me it's a very common scam on internet dating sites and such. The 'father' then texts me later on in the day saying his daughter got suspended from school and I'll be arrested if I don't speak with him, at which point I tell him I'm aware it's a scam and that LE is very interested in meeting with him and his 'daughter'. Never heard back after that but it occurred to me that some of you might be also targets of this scam and might not know what to do.

Remember:

- Use either a burner phone, GV, or both for SA communications. Scammers will cross reference your number with social media apps to find out all about you.

- Don't use your real name for SA if you can avoid it.

- Even if the age of consent in your state is 16 or 17, it's still illegal to send / receive nude pics from minors and you will be prosecuted if the complaint is legitimate.

- If someone is trying to scam you for money, don't engage them and they'll eventually go away.

- No LE will encourage you to 'settle' a crime for money.

- 18 should be young enough for anyone on this board. Going younger will permanently alter your entire life as you know it.

Don't be stupid!

Yaya.

Emeralddragon6
02-06-18, 14:09
One of the creators of an online game got arrested for meeting an underage girl from the site. They took a bunch of records from their server relating to this. Be very careful out there.

GaltGuy
02-09-18, 17:58
Has anyone seen this tall blonde babe? I'm trying to figure out where she is on the sugar food chain:

https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/b7c3a93b-4594-4da0-b3fd-6237d42e11a8

Aswerty9111
02-21-18, 02:36
Anyone have any good leads on here? I just renewed 2 weeks ago and man it's gone so downhill. Many more fakes and cons than even 6 months ago. OUtnumbers real sb's I think.

LookingInGray
02-21-18, 11:27
While the law doesn't explicitly state it, it'd be hard for anyone to get a conviction if you receive an unsolicited nude from someone of any age. If you ask for it (regardless of whether you knew their age), you could be in trouble. It's better to just never ask.

So, to keep yourself safe: don't ask for nudes at all, especially if they're borderline on age. If you get one you didn't ask for, just delete it, state that you deleted it, ask for proof of age, and if you don't get it, block the caller. Unless you have a shit-tier lawyer or you're representing yourself (same thing, really), you're not going to be convicted under those circumstances. If sending someone unwanted child porn was a way to get them prosecuted, people would be doing it left and right for revenge.

I'm assuming there are some folks here around the 18 ish age range. If so, there's no reason to think they wouldn't be at least chatting up some people that are 16 and 17.

BONUS: If you're a young, attractive guy, post as a SB on SA.

Disclaimer: this is not professional legal advice.


Just to let you all know, some scammers have recently tried to target me with the underage girl scam. Don't fall for it!

Here's how it worked: An over 18 account is set up on SA which they then use to message you and move it on to text. While texting they try to get a pic from you and your name. The girl eventually sends private pics unsolicited, at which point I asked her to confirm her age. She says she's almost 17 but really into older guys yada yada. I say not interested, report her account and block her number. The next day I get a text from her 'dad' from another number saying he's going to get me arrested for child porn and to call him immediately. I'm aware of the scam and I ignore him. Later in the day I get a voicemail from a 'sheriff' in another state saying they're starting the arrest process and I should call him back immediately (to a number not matching the caller I'd) to tell my side of the story and to settle this. I googled the number on the caller I'd which was spoofed from an actual LE office in another state to make it look official, so I call back at the official number (not at the alternate number left in the VM) I ask to speak to the sheriff by name and it's a different guy that has no idea what I'm talking about. He tells me it's a very common scam on internet dating sites and such. The 'father' then texts me later on in the day saying his daughter got suspended from school and I'll be arrested if I don't speak with him, at which point I tell him I'm aware it's a scam and that LE is very interested in meeting with him and his 'daughter'. Never heard back after that but it occurred to me that some of you might be also targets of this scam and might not know what to do.

Remember:

- Use either a burner phone, GV, or both for SA communications. Scammers will cross reference your number with social media apps to find out all about you.

- Don't use your real name for SA if you can avoid it.

- Even if the age of consent in your state is 16 or 17, it's still illegal to send / receive nude pics from minors and you will be prosecuted if the complaint is legitimate.

- If someone is trying to scam you for money, don't engage them and they'll eventually go away.

- No LE will encourage you to 'settle' a crime for money.

- 18 should be young enough for anyone on this board. Going younger will permanently alter your entire life as you know it.

Don't be stupid!

Yaya.

LookingInGray
02-21-18, 11:29
I've been talking to at least a half-dozen; I just created my first account. I am on the younger side and relatively good looking. I've still not found what'll work for me yet, but these definitely seem like real people, and their desires would work for some other folks.


Anyone have any good leads on here? I just renewed 2 weeks ago and man it's gone so downhill. Many more fakes and cons than even 6 months ago. OUtnumbers real sb's I think.

XxJohnJohnXx
02-21-18, 13:14
Anyone have any good leads on here? I just renewed 2 weeks ago and man it's gone so downhill. Many more fakes and cons than even 6 months ago. OUtnumbers real sb's I think.DUDE I just upgraded like a week ago and OMG yes its full of fucking scammers and fakes, and the ones that are real they want TOP DOLLAR for it, I have gotten alot of answers on my messages but holy shit some of these girls want 400-500 per encounter and idk if its worth all that I can't believe dudes are acctually offering that much money for some 7's or 8's cause the girls on there aint even all that, I'm going to keep playing the game till I find a girl with resonable numbers cause I am not about to drop 500 bucks away like that, no way!!

Gibbs70
02-21-18, 21:58
Agree the scammers are steadily increasing, but with a little work, there are plenty of girls who are looking for ongoing arrangements, and others just here working. Keep seeking, and just be cautious.

As for price, they all want 500 and claim their last one paid it. All BS! We've had multiple discussions on this thread, and average is 200, with some going cheaper. All in your approach, and how desparate they get.

Play well,

Gibbs.


DUDE I just upgraded like a week ago and OMG yes its full of fucking scammers and fakes, and the ones that are real they want TOP DOLLAR for it, I have gotten alot of answers on my messages but holy shit some of these girls want 400-500 per encounter and idk if its worth all that I can't believe dudes are acctually offering that much money for some 7's or 8's cause the girls on there aint even all that, I'm going to keep playing the game till I find a girl with resonable numbers cause I am not about to drop 500 bucks away like that, no way!!

Aswerty9111
02-22-18, 01:18
I've been talking to at least a half-dozen; I just created my first account. I am on the younger side and relatively good looking. I've still not found what'll work for me yet, but these definitely seem like real people, and their desires would work for some other folks.Really? Put their # on phone validator, what %'age is voip or google voice? I'd say it's about 50%now at least, didn't used to be that way.

ThomasGrandy
02-22-18, 11:48
All BS! We've had multiple discussions on this thread, and average is 200, with some going cheaper. All in your approach, and how desparate they get.The girls I have talked with want a ridiculous monthly amount and a promise of a steady, ongoing thing. Is the $200 per visit and is there really an expectation of an ongoing relationship?

What's the best approach to turn the convo from some huge upfront amt to per date arrangement?

LookingInGray
02-23-18, 02:34
I use my GV number for that site. Hell, even the site guidelines suggest the same for both SDs and SBs. The ones I'm talking to are real locals though. They know the landmarks, how the locals talk about navigation (beltline, RTP, etc.). I have a meet & greet with one in a few days. I think she's using a GV number, but I've found her on social media. Just VOIP isn't a good indication of whether they're fake. I generally ask some questions that would be difficult for a non-local to answer. A timestamped, G-rated selfie isn't unreasonable either, in my opinion. If they can't handle that, then they're not worth my time.


Really? Put their # on phone validator, what %'age is voip or google voice? I'd say it's about 50%now at least, didn't used to be that way.

Gibbs70
02-23-18, 13:20
200 is a per visit and easier to arrive at if you are willing to do an ongoing arrangement. Many kinds on here, but of late, mostly scammers and escorts. Approach is a personal thing, and I'd recommend reading back several months to a year on this post. Yaya has put out a few guidelines that I couldn't say any better.

As for distinguishing a real SB from a pro, I'm about 80% accurate by asking if they can host. New and some experienced SB's don't know that lingo and will ask what you mean. Be safe, think with the big head, and have fun.


The girls I have talked with want a ridiculous monthly amount and a promise of a steady, ongoing thing. Is the $200 per visit and is there really an expectation of an ongoing relationship?

What's the best approach to turn the convo from some huge upfront amt to per date arrangement?

Aswerty9111
02-23-18, 14:26
I use my GV number for that site. Hell, even the site guidelines suggest the same for both SDs and SBs. The ones I'm talking to are real locals though. They know the landmarks, how the locals talk about navigation (beltline, RTP, etc.). I have a meet & greet with one in a few days. I think she's using a GV number, but I've found her on social media. Just VOIP isn't a good indication of whether they're fake. I generally ask some questions that would be difficult for a non-local to answer. A timestamped, G-rated selfie isn't unreasonable either, in my opinion. If they can't handle that, then they're not worth my time.Let us know how it goes. Not saying they're not real or local, but the real / new sb's especially in college wouldn't have the wherewithal to navigate the VOIPS. More often than not suggests pros.

Gibbs70
03-04-18, 13:39
https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/49707258-d884-45bc-888a-f52752aaa5b1

Contacted saying she was coming to town to "visit Duke", and will be staying a few days. Model like dream doll that is a Minimal lifestyle. Smells fishy already.

Joerdu
03-13-18, 13:21
I am working on a time to see her. Any recent intel?

MedJohnson
03-14-18, 14:02
Around for a while. A near pro if not a pro.

Med.


I am working on a time to see her. Any recent intel?

Joerdu
03-14-18, 21:36
Around for a while. A near pro if not a pro.

Med.Interesting. I know she has been on and off for a while. But seemed rather authentic previously.

Raltime
03-14-18, 22:10
Hot, top shelf. Not a pro. She has been on the site for some time, but limited time due to being married. She has been not available for almost a year. If you can get the top shelf liquor, then I would go for it. Very limited, like pappy van winkle.

Joerdu
03-15-18, 09:44
Hot, top shelf. Not a pro. She has been on the site for some time, but limited time due to being married. She has been not available for almost a year. If you can get the top shelf liquor, then I would go for it. Very limited, like pappy van winkle.That is very consistent with my past experience with her. Definitely top shelf.

NepKng
03-15-18, 11:09
Any recent info?

SneakyMan
03-16-18, 05:19
Any recent info?Not very recent, but semi pro. Nice set of store bought, tight, bit of GPS. Just too many others to go there again.

SneakyMan
03-16-18, 05:22
That is very consistent with my past experience with her. Definitely top shelf.My experience was just okay and in my opinion, not worth the effort to schedule.

Triptogamont
03-17-18, 11:24
What is she asking for meets these days? Was in contact with her a while ago, but her ask was significantly higher than that of others. PM, please.

NepKng
03-19-18, 15:10
Not very recent, but semi pro. Nice set of store bought, tight, bit of GPS. Just too many others to go there again.Thanks for the info-do you remember what the damage was?

PghGuy2005
03-24-18, 11:00
Any recent info?https://seekingarrangement.com/member/a7678985-0b7e-4dbb-5ed2-b7ca3713bc29

Older than claimed (met her for coffee) and too skinny to excite my senses and wanted a grand each time. Went silent after my counter offer.

SneakyMan
03-25-18, 14:07
https://seekingarrangement.com/member/a7678985-0b7e-4dbb-5ed2-b7ca3713bc29

Older than claimed (met her for coffee) and too skinny to excite my senses and wanted a grand each time. Went silent after my counter offer.Yep, that's the one.

JizzyGoo
03-27-18, 13:37
Hollering from Central Florida. Is this Tiffany originally from your area? I thought she was from Orlando.

https://www.pornhub.com/view_video.php?viewkey=ph5912777d892fd

NepKng
03-27-18, 17:14
Not very recent, but semi pro. Nice set of store bought, tight, bit of GPS. Just too many others to go there again.I know I'm going to slap myself when you tell me but what is "gps"?

Triptogamont
03-27-18, 18:17
I know I'm going to slap myself when you tell me but what is "gps"?Golden Pussy Syndrome.

When she thinks her pussy is made of solid gold and you should be ecstatic to pay thousands of dollars for the possibility of maybe even seeing it. Let alone touching / tasting / fucking it.

DelLuv
04-07-18, 09:05
Has anyone seen her? I have had a few emails back and forth.

YayaGogo
04-10-18, 10:31
This should get an influx of girls on WYP and SA in no time LOL. The woman even got her daughter into the act!

https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/single-mom-supports-teenage-daughter-paid-date-183652771.html

Pubb69
04-10-18, 11:04
This should get an influx of girls on WYP and SA in no time LOL. The woman even got her daughter into the act!

https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/single-mom-supports-teenage-daughter-paid-date-183652771.htmlThat's what I want, a parasite divorcee to drain my bank account and later on drop me.

We're going to be seeing more of this than ever now but if they can find someone dumb enough to go along than why not?

Shock55
05-18-18, 21:45
Gents,

I visited Raleigh and got taken by this one. I was stupid. Avoid at all cost, she'll take your money with her boyfriend.

https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/e1767807-561d-41f9-95dc-a83fc5c6efca

Gibbs70
05-21-18, 10:58
Tried WYP for the first time and seems to be a lot of scammers looking for cash upfront.

Alert on this one: went by Alicia in text, (214) *5993. Was busy so didn't get screen print of pics and now gone. Thin blonde who claimed to be visiting a friend here (profile had Dallas as location). Says she wants to get right to the point and is ready to F. Wants to see a pic of face and penis. So I send her someone's pic as I wasn't born yesterday. Then wants money upfront. After a resounding no way, she is going to post my face and our message on local facebook if I don't send cash.

Be careful. She asked for real name, what I did for a living, etc. Trying to find me on google. Since all my info is made up, she had no luck and resorted to "the threat".

Good reminder for all to be careful out there, and what you share.

Be safe,

Gibbs.

Pubb69
05-21-18, 19:45
She is 35 from Chapel Hill, claims to be in the music industry, thin and divorced.

Don't have the link because she blocked me. She is bad news, just a terrible person. I do know her personally and she is nothing but trouble.

Pubb69
05-22-18, 06:40
She is 35 from Chapel Hill, claims to be in the music industry, thin and divorced.

Don't have the link because she blocked me. She is bad news, just a terrible person. I do know her personally and she is nothing but trouble.That is her title.

Just a sponge as most are but she takes it to another level.

FuckHard
05-25-18, 20:56
I contacted this Girl on SA, username littlelu2. Meet at a public coffee place and she wanted me to wait inside for her which I did not do. I stay hiding in my car waiting for her arrival. She arrived in a old mustang seem to be by her self. Went inside got a coffee. Her BF / handler was hiding on the back seat of the mustang tall black guy took money and speed out of parking lot.

Be careful with this one. She block me from SA. I did a little homework and found out her name and info. But nothing I can do LOL.

https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/4e1c6187-9759-4420-ad15-d7873f1daa35

I have pictures to share but can't upload them Idk why.

YayaGogo
05-26-18, 12:03
I contacted this Girl on SA, username littlelu2. Meet at a public coffee place and she wanted me to wait inside for her which I did not do. I stay hiding in my car waiting for her arrival. She arrived in a old mustang seem to be by her self. Went inside got a coffee. Her BF / handler was hiding on the back seat of the mustang tall black guy took money and speed out of parking lot.

Be careful with this one. She block me from SA. I did a little homework and found out her name and info. But nothing I can do LOL.

https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/4e1c6187-9759-4420-ad15-d7873f1daa35

I have pictures to share but can't upload them Idk why.Sorry this happened to you and thanks for reporting, but your post makes no sense? I'm assuming you got out of your car eventually to meet her in the coffee place, but how did someone hiding in the back seat of a car get ahold of your money and drive off with it? Missing a lot of details here. Although I hate scammers, it seems you made a lot of mistakes that allowed this to happen. Learn from the lesson and get back in the game wiser than you are now. Good luck!

Yaya.

Rdudreaming
05-26-18, 12:26
I contacted this Girl on SA, username littlelu2. Meet at a public coffee place and she wanted me to wait inside for her which I did not do. I stay hiding in my car waiting for her arrival. She arrived in a old mustang seem to be by her self. Went inside got a coffee. Her BF / handler was hiding on the back seat of the mustang tall black guy took money and speed out of parking lot.

Be careful with this one. She block me from SA. I did a little homework and found out her name and info. But nothing I can do LOL.

https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/4e1c6187-9759-4420-ad15-d7873f1daa35

I have pictures to share but can't upload them Idk why.You have her real name, but she does not know anything real about you? Seems like you have an advantage. Consider an anonymous tip to crime stoppers.

Thanks for the heads up.

ArmyNiceGuy
05-26-18, 14:51
It's good to be back gents. Thought I would share a couple experiences. First is allythecatsmeow. Everything was great up until the meet when she stood me up, bunch of excuses then ghosted before second try at a meet and greet. Second warning is for summertimesea. We had a great first meeting that lead to the fc. On the second date she gave me a sob story and needed an advance on her allowance. I figured I was safe having been to the fc and her home, but I was wrong. A couple weeks of excuses then ghosted. Hope this helps you brothers out.

Now a question for y'all, anyone meet up with DeeOGeebby? I've got a m&g coming up with her and I'm just much more cautious these days. No major red flags or anything, just cautious.

Pubb69
05-26-18, 15:34
It's good to be back gents. Thought I would share a couple experiences. First is allythecatsmeow. Everything was great up until the meet when she stood me up, bunch of excuses then ghosted before second try at a meet and greet. Second warning is for summertimesea. We had a great first meeting that lead to the fc. On the second date she gave me a sob story and needed an advance on her allowance. I figured I was safe having been to the fc and her home, but I was wrong. A couple weeks of excuses then ghosted. Hope this helps you brothers out.

Now a question for y'all, anyone meet up with DeeOGeebby? I've got a m&g coming up with her and I'm just much more cautious these days. No major red flags or anything, just cautious.That one scares me, as a matter of fact they all kind of do. 7 texts weekly to meet is overdone.

Just to reiterate stay away from Rising 4 Dawn, she is looking for a " sponsor" for her summer trip around the country to follow a rock band. Another words a free meal ticket, she is pretty caniving and not worth the expense or aggravation.

ArmyNiceGuy
05-26-18, 16:04
That one scares me, as a matter of fact they all kind of do. 7 texts weekly to meet is overdone.

Just to reiterate stay away from Rising 4 Dawn, she is looking for a " sponsor" for her summer trip around the country to follow a rock band. Another words a free meal ticket, she is pretty caniving and not worth the expense or aggravation.Not totally sure what you mean by 7 texts a week though? She blow up your phone? Have you met her? Ant red flags like she might be a set-up?

Pubb69
05-26-18, 18:30
Not totally sure what you mean by 7 texts a week though? She blow up your phone? Have you met her? Ant red flags like she might be a set-up?No she did not blow my phone up. Just don't like aggressive messages from someone about meeting, like I am required to because we exchanged texts, not over attracted to her pics and my fear is it would be worse in person. Her asking rate was quite high as well, in the 5 range.

My feeling is it wouldn't be a setup just another mediocre experience.

ArmyNiceGuy
05-26-18, 20:13
No she did not blow my phone up. Just don't like aggressive messages from someone about meeting, like I am required to because we exchanged texts, not over attracted to her pics and my fear is it would be worse in person. Her asking rate was quite high as well, in the 5 range.

My feeling is it wouldn't be a setup just another mediocre experience.Ahh, thanks brother.

Pubb69
05-27-18, 11:58
Another hoodie hustler. Avoid this one if it isn't already too late.

No personality and miserable 15 minute hustle, heavier than her pics but what else is new.

FuckHard
05-27-18, 12:03
Sorry this happened to you and thanks for reporting, but your post makes no sense? I'm assuming you got out of your car eventually to meet her in the coffee place, but how did someone hiding in the back seat of a car get ahold of your money and drive off with it? Missing a lot of details here. Although I hate scammers, it seems you made a lot of mistakes that allowed this to happen. Learn from the lesson and get back in the game wiser than you are now. Good luck!

Yaya.Yea is a long story but I mean I followed them and know where they stay even got their plate numbers but not sure if that helps me.

FuckHard
05-27-18, 12:05
Another hoodie hustler. Avoid this one if it isn't already too late.

No personality and miserable 15 minute hustle, heavier than her pics but what else is new.To late. Meet with her a week ago (car meet) bigger than pictures and rushed. But I mean damage was $. 5.

SneakyMan
05-28-18, 13:53
Another hoodie hustler. Avoid this one if it isn't already too late.

No personality and miserable 15 minute hustle, heavier than her pics but what else is new.So my experience was different. Saw her with her friend, jewellloveme. Yes she was a bit heavier, but her friend was awesome. Together they were good time. Haven't been back but not for lack of trying.

Pubb69
05-28-18, 14:46
I just meet these people in public places now. She showed up with driver, didn't exactly appear healthy so I told her no thanks I want nothing to do with drivers and gave her. 8 to cover gas and time.

Nasty follow up messages telling me how she had to pay her driver 5, like that's really my problem. Told her I don't do the Backpage experience, seems like the same trash is on SA now.

Pubb69
05-29-18, 20:31
So my experience was different. Saw her with her friend, jewellloveme. Yes she was a bit heavier, but her friend was awesome. Together they were good time. Haven't been back but not for lack of trying.Why? They both are on that site 24/7 scouting out future victims.

JohnDagger
05-31-18, 01:13
Wanted details on why I wanted to meet her. I was illusive. Then she said via text she wanted half uprfont and a hotel and I blocked her sounded like police.


I contacted this Girl on SA, username littlelu2. Meet at a public coffee place and she wanted me to wait inside for her which I did not do. I stay hiding in my car waiting for her arrival. She arrived in a old mustang seem to be by her self. Went inside got a coffee. Her BF / handler was hiding on the back seat of the mustang tall black guy took money and speed out of parking lot.

Be careful with this one. She block me from SA. I did a little homework and found out her name and info. But nothing I can do LOL.

https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/4e1c6187-9759-4420-ad15-d7873f1daa35

I have pictures to share but can't upload them Idk why.

Arion
06-02-18, 09:14
Just finding this thread after having abandoned this forum a while ago. Glad I found it again. I'm very experienced in "SA" and have been using in for years. I've met a large majority of the more attractive SBs in the Raleigh and NC areas because I'm single, somewhat attractive (so they say, I don't believe them) and I fuck like a sewing machine. *Insert needle-dick joke*.

Anyway, If you have any questions on any girls, or you need me to scout a POT out, I will. I'm all about older dudes stealing the younger trim from the frat boys who are still looking for the mythical G-spot. My PI game is on point as well and I have access to resources not publicly available even for subscription, so if you happen to get a barrel in the face and your Benjamin's kidnapped, let me know. Just know I pull pussy by offering the inverse to girls on guys who scam them, and it happens a ton. I never pay for pussy, ever, but I get a lot of it off SA because I'm smarter than the average bear. No genius, but in the land of the blind, uh, Hows the saying go?

I've dated a few SBs on there and even accompanied them on dates where the guy wants to gangbang / spitroast / tag team with a fellow pussy connoisseur. I'm not jealous and yep, I've probably counted some of your money but I'm no pimp, I make more than enough of my own money and simply associate for the free on demand pussy benefits. I've made and run profiles on SA for girls too dumb or too bipolar to do so without self-sabotaging any chance at profit. You've probably talked to me before if you're a frequent-flyer to the Raleigh sugar-bowl. I'm not sorry about it because everyone got what they wanted and no one got robbed, hurt, scammed, or their time wasted. I've never set up a meet for less than $400, so the guys fishing in the $150-350 pond, we haven't talked much.

I'm a very experienced dominant, (Hi Fetish friends) and I do stable girls sometimes and own them consensual. I've met a lot of really cool guys off SA connections, so I just keep making more. I guess that's the root of my introduction post. Lets be pals, be merry, and smash young pussy. Safely. Without thugs, robbers, etc. I'm me if you have any questions for me, I'm open with like minded folks.

Pubb69
06-02-18, 19:51
Just finding this thread after having abandoned this forum a while ago. Glad I found it again. I'm very experienced in "SA" and have been using in for years. I've met a large majority of the more attractive SBs in the Raleigh and NC areas because I'm single, somewhat attractive (so they say, I don't believe them) and I fuck like a sewing machine. *Insert needle-dick joke*.

Anyway, If you have any questions on any girls, or you need me to scout a POT out, I will. I'm all about older dudes stealing the younger trim from the frat boys who are still looking for the mythical G-spot. My PI game is on point as well and I have access to resources not publicly available even for subscription, so if you happen to get a barrel in the face and your Benjamin's kidnapped, let me know. Just know I pull pussy by offering the inverse to girls on guys who scam them, and it happens a ton. I never pay for pussy, ever, but I get a lot of it off SA because I'm smarter than the average bear. No genius, but in the land of the blind, uh, Hows the saying go?

I've dated a few SBs on there and even accompanied them on dates where the guy wants to gangbang / spitroast / tag team with a fellow pussy connoisseur. I'm not jealous and yep, I've probably counted some of your money but I'm no pimp, I make more than enough of my own money and simply associate for the free on demand pussy benefits. I've made and run profiles on SA for girls too dumb or too bipolar to do so without self-sabotaging any chance at profit. You've probably talked to me before if you're a frequent-flyer to the Raleigh sugar-bowl. I'm not sorry about it because everyone got what they wanted and no one got robbed, hurt, scammed, or their time wasted. I've never set up a meet for less than $400, so the guys fishing in the $150-350 pond, we haven't talked much.

I'm a very experienced dominant, (Hi Fetish friends) and I do stable girls sometimes and own them consensual. I've met a lot of really cool guys off SA connections, so I just keep making more. I guess that's the root of my introduction post. Lets be pals, be merry, and smash young pussy. Safely. Without thugs, robbers, etc. I'm me if you have any questions for me, I'm open with like minded folks.Ok, let's go there. How about some names?

Arion
06-02-18, 20:07
Ok, let's go there. How about some names?Bob. Sally. George. I can share SA relevant usernames in PM. I still know many folks on both sides of the fence and have friendships to maintain. .

Pubb69
06-05-18, 14:39
My take on this website is your more likely to find what you want or in some cases what you don't want from the ones who have been out there more than 6 months on a somewhat daily basis. Most of the new women are disillusioned into thinking they are dealing with generous lonely millionaires who can be exploited. Until reality sinks in.

Pubb69
06-10-18, 17:41
Met one over a month ago, just over dinner. Never heard back again until today, she only wants 13,000 from me to pay off her car loan over the next few months. On a scale of 1 to 10 she is about a 6, I have to wonder if they just think we are fucking idiots or have lost are minds. I should have made a counter offer for 50 LOL.

Ntcuonghm1
06-11-18, 01:08
This one is so funny. I contacted her on SA, and she asked for the same thing--13 K to pay off her car in the next couple of months. I asked her what she could do to me in return for my money. She said she could give orals. LOL. I said "if I could bang much greater girls for much less, why would I have to see you?" The last message I got from her was "That was mean. " LOL.


Met one over a month ago, just over dinner. Never heard back again until today, she only wants 13,000 from me to pay off her car loan over the next few months. On a scale of 1 to 10 she is about a 6, I have to wonder if they just think we are fucking idiots or have lost are minds. I should have made a counter offer for 50 LOL.

Ntcuonghm1
06-11-18, 01:15
Not sure if you met her. I banged her a few months ago for 200. She works as a realtor and is much bigger than her pics. She is nice, though. I don't think I would repeat.


Has anyone seen this tall blonde babe? I'm trying to figure out where she is on the sugar food chain:

https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/b7c3a93b-4594-4da0-b3fd-6237d42e11a8

Pubb69
06-11-18, 11:42
Not sure if you met her. I banged her a few months ago for 200. She works as a realtor and is much bigger than her pics. She is nice, though. I don't think I would repeat.There are some women out there with an inflated opinion of what they are worth out there.

I love how they accept an initial offer and than afterwards upping it another $ or so, how about the ones expecting $$$ just to meet. They must somehow think they can get it from someone.

ArmyNiceGuy
06-11-18, 12:30
Spent too much time texting with sweeeet-T2017 https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/cc03acc7-83be-db6f-e7c9-ea987c5ef3f3 last week. Flaked on meeting twice an gave me a story when I said I needed a selfie to prove she's real. She's either running a con, fake, or super flaky utr pro.

In other news, any brothers out there have any tips on keeping a baby interested? I can't seem to keep a baby interested after the second trip to the FC. Anyone else have this issue? I'm hoping to find something a little more long term so I can let my premium membership expire for a while. Just seems I'm always having to be on the hunt for the next baby.

MedJohnson
06-11-18, 16:04
Can confirm, especially the part about being bigger. Nice and banging in different places was kind of fun. And saved FC costs. Didn't repeat.

Stay safe.

Med.


Not sure if you met her. I banged her a few months ago for 200. She works as a realtor and is much bigger than her pics. She is nice, though. I don't think I would repeat.

Pubb69
06-11-18, 17:02
Spent too much time texting with sweeeet-T2017 https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/cc03acc7-83be-db6f-e7c9-ea987c5ef3f3 last week. Flaked on meeting twice an gave me a story when I said I needed a selfie to prove she's real. She's either running a con, fake, or super flaky utr pro.

In other news, any brothers out there have any tips on keeping a baby interested? I can't seem to keep a baby interested after the second trip to the FC. Anyone else have this issue? I'm hoping to find something a little more long term so I can let my premium membership expire for a while. Just seems I'm always having to be on the hunt for the next baby.The formula on there is simple, look for the ones posting regularly for 6 months or longer. They probably started looking for a grand slam and by now reality has sunk in. Most still use 5 as a starting point to see how gullible you are but 3 is more like what they will settle for. Of course the hoodie hustlers will give you the q. V. Backpage experience for 2 or less.

SneakyMan
06-11-18, 23:08
The formula on there is simple, look for the ones posting regularly for 6 months or longer. They probably started looking for a grand slam and by now reality has sunk in. Most still use 5 as a starting point to see how gullible you are but 3 is more like what they will settle for. Of course the hoodie hustlers will give you the q. V. Backpage experience for 2 or less.Yep, she is a pro. Met her a year ago or so. Nothing specia for sure. Larger that she looks and not all that good.

Joerdu
06-12-18, 06:55
Definitely an interesting dichotomy among the girls when it comes to age. I have had better experience over time with girls in the 27-35 range, and this is consistent in Raleigh and beyond in my travels. Often, girls in this age group, that are not desperate for funds, are really more interested in having fun with someone who treats them well and knows what they are doing.

The best college girls are the ones that truly want to experience some life with an older, successful guy.

Regardless of age, I have had the most fun with educated girls that are looking for stress release or looking for a little extra fun in their busy lives.

Pubb69
06-14-18, 10:30
Definitely an interesting dichotomy among the girls when it comes to age. I have had better experience over time with girls in the 27-35 range, and this is consistent in Raleigh and beyond in my travels. Often, girls in this age group, that are not desperate for funds, are really more interested in having fun with someone who treats them well and knows what they are doing.

The best college girls are the ones that truly want to experience some life with an older, successful guy.

Regardless of age, I have had the most fun with educated girls that are looking for stress release or looking for a little extra fun in their busy lives.It is starting to feel like B. P. With the same ones posting daily.

I question how many are really educated as well, lots of fake intellectualism in their posts. 18 -21 year olds trying to sound worldly to attract the high paying idiots who believe them.

Trialrun
06-14-18, 19:09
Now a question for y'all, anyone meet up with DeeOGeebby? I've got a m&g coming up with her and I'm just much more cautious these days. No major red flags or anything, just cautious.She's a sweet girl. Very alt look with piercings. Thick in a muscular way, but sexy. Keep it professional though. Like many of the girls on here she has drama, and it won't do you any good to be a white knight.

Pubb69
06-15-18, 19:54
She's a sweet girl. Very alt look with piercings. Thick in a muscular way, but sexy. Keep it professional though. Like many of the girls on here she has drama, and it won't do you any good to be a white knight.Man the texts never stopped. Just to plain for what she was asking.

MedJohnson
06-17-18, 12:27
Since the Asian escort scene is basically non existent and the massage places are all crappy rub and tug joints, I'm looking for an Asian SB. Any input on the Asian girls on SA in the area? Thanks.

Med.

Pubb69
06-18-18, 17:34
Since the Asian escort scene is basically non existent and the massage places are all crappy rub and tug joints, I'm looking for an Asian SB. Any input on the Asian girls on SA in the area? Thanks.

Med.Only seen one lately, a pretty good bet is they all will be Asian American.

Pubb69
06-19-18, 17:40
Is it just me or does anyone else notice that all these women seemed to be asking 5 at the beginning.

Almost like a lot of them are coached by some pimp and told they can get it. I've must have had conversations with at least a dozen, some come at you with offers of 8 but say they will settle for no less than 5. Of course they are on there daily, I doubt they are getting it.

CareBear2
06-20-18, 21:34
Now a question for y'all, anyone meet up with DeeOGeebby? I've got a m&g coming up with her and I'm just much more cautious these days. No major red flags or anything, just cautious.Do you have a link? Is she on SA?

Pubb69
06-21-18, 15:09
Do you have a link? Is she on SA?Every single day LOL.

CareBear2
06-21-18, 17:28
Every single day LOL.I don't see her.

PirateX01
06-22-18, 14:30
Do you have a link? Is she on SA?I've met her. Like most on SA she starts out asking for 5 but will quickly back down to 3, which is way to much given her skill set and somewhat freaky look. My feeling is that she does not really want to be a sugar baby but does it to make ends meet. That being said she seems like a nice girl that is having a hard time getting her life in order. There may be some demons there but none that are evident. She did text a few days later wanting an advance on her allowance that I declined. I have not heard from her since but she is still around. I probably would not repeat as she has her skills are that of someone inexperienced. Hopefully this report helps.

Pubb69
06-22-18, 19:41
I've met her. Like most on SA she starts out asking for 5 but will quickly back down to 3, which is way to much given her skill set and somewhat freaky look. My feeling is that she does not really want to be a sugar baby but does it to make ends meet. That being said she seems like a nice girl that is having a hard time getting her life in order. There may be some demons there but none that are evident. She did text a few days later wanting an advance on her allowance that I declined. I have not heard from her since but she is still around. I probably would not repeat as she has her skills are that of someone inexperienced. Hopefully this report helps.Excellent feedback. Pretty much what I expected given the contact I had with her.

I think some pimp is coaching most of them out there, they all seem to ask for 5 to start. Although I had a few misguided souls with an overvalued self worth ask for a grand. Most are refusing offers of 3 and 4 and that's all right with me because so far I haven't seen anything really great out there.

ArmyNiceGuy
06-26-18, 08:29
Hello brothers, wondering if any of you have dealt with kissesbella (20, Durham)? Had a pretty good m&g with her and am setting up a date with a trip to the fc. She's real and I would bet money demon-free, but can't shake the feeling this one might have some kind of handler.

Speaking of handlers, I actually doubt most of these girls on S. A. Have one. Most likely they are coaching each other. They have got to be networking or sharing info somehow though. Whether it's a forum out there (much like us here) or some kind of social media, I've been searching for info geared toward sugar babies, and will report back if I find something relevant.

Thanks brothers, stay safe out there.

Joerdu
06-26-18, 12:08
I think if you stick with real college girls or established, suburban type women, you are not going to encounter any kind of handler, etc. There are still plenty of authentic, real girls on there that are intrigued by an older man, that just want to have some fun enhancing their lives.

YayaGogo
06-26-18, 17:29
Hello brothers, wondering if any of you have dealt with kissesbella (20, Durham)? Had a pretty good m&g with her and am setting up a date with a trip to the fc. She's real and I would bet money demon-free, but can't shake the feeling this one might have some kind of handler.

Speaking of handlers, I actually doubt most of these girls on S. A. Have one. Most likely they are coaching each other. They have got to be networking or sharing info somehow though. Whether it's a forum out there (much like us here) or some kind of social media, I've been searching for info geared toward sugar babies, and will report back if I find something relevant.

Thanks brothers, stay safe out there.I was thinking about contacting her myself, but never did as I had the same thoughts. Let us know how it goes, and good luck!

Yaya.

Pubb69
06-27-18, 16:28
She has been on there regularly so I tried setting up something. I agreed originally to her high asking price because she appears hot and promised non rush, than she suggests an initial meeting over dinner. I was all set up for today but than I get a message.

From her that she requires a gift of compensation just to meet.

Again another case of GPS so I cancelled, I have given small gifts for initial neutral site meetings before before but was turned off by the request.

ArmyNiceGuy
06-28-18, 00:09
Updates on Deeogeebby and kissesbella.

KissesBella, very attractive, legit, legal, doubt has a handler. Limited menu and shyness probably a dealbreaker for most though.

Deeogeebby. Had a few good dates but demons 100% confirmed on last date. Behavior has become erratic as well. Sweet girl but in a bad place. Avoid at all costs!

Pubb69
06-28-18, 14:15
Updates on Deeogeebby and kissesbella.

KissesBella, very attractive, legit, legal, doubt has a handler. Limited menu and shyness probably a dealbreaker for most though.

Deeogeebby. Had a few good dates but demons 100% confirmed on last date. Behavior has become erratic as well. Sweet girl but in a bad place. Avoid at all costs!I somewhat disagreed about the handler as she was dropped off by a guy she claimed was her roommate. First she said it was.

A woman than at the end said he is waiting for me.

I was not happy that she lied about driving herself than they figure your thinking with the little head and won't mind if they rush out in 15 minutes, told her ahead of time that I was tired of that b. S. Especially with the cost involved so she goes ahead and does it anyway. Beyond shyness she was lifeless and had no personality either. Basicly she is a hundred dollar date asking 3 times as much so either avoid or only offer what she is worth, I won't repeat either way.

ArmyNiceGuy
06-28-18, 20:44
I somewhat disagreed about the handler as she was dropped off by a guy she claimed was her roommate. First she said it was.

A woman than at the end said he is waiting for me.

I was not happy that she lied about driving herself than they figure your thinking with the little head and won't mind if they rush out in 15 minutes, told her ahead of time that I was tired of that b. S. Especially with the cost involved so she goes ahead and does it anyway. Beyond shyness she was lifeless and had no personality either. Basicly she is a hundred dollar date asking 3 times as much so either avoid or only offer what she is worth, I won't repeat either way.Sorry to hear your date didn't go as well as mine. In my date we still had a little more than an hour in the FC (despite some performance issues I was having) after we had dinner. She did have a friend drive her to the m&g (and was up front about it), but drove herself on our dinner / fc date (I checked). It does take a lot to get her out of her shell, really had to work my game. The m&g was a little awkward, but by the end of of dinner, and before heading to the fc, she was opening up a bit more and was laughing at my jokes. Did you two do a m&g at all beforehand or was it first meet at the fc? It was still not the greatest sugar date ever with her limited menu (bit of a pillow princess), but I still fingered, licked, and banged (for the short time I could keep it up) her to a couple O's. I think a M&g might have made a difference, maybe if a baby feels like she's being treated like a backpage girl, she's more inclined to act like one?

Pubb69
06-28-18, 20:59
Sorry to hear your date didn't go as well as mine. In my date we still had a little more than an hour in the FC (despite some performance issues I was having) after we had dinner. She did have a friend drive her to the m&g (and was up front about it), but drove herself on our dinner / fc date (I checked). It does take a lot to get her out of her shell, really had to work my game. The m&g was a little awkward, but by the end of of dinner, and before heading to the fc, she was opening up a bit more and was laughing at my jokes. Did you two do a m&g at all beforehand or was it first meet at the fc? It was still not the greatest sugar date ever with her limited menu (bit of a pillow princess), but I still fingered, licked, and banged (for the short time I could keep it up) her to a couple O's. I think a M&g might have made a difference, maybe if a baby feels like she's being treated like a backpage girl, she's more inclined to act like one?I went against my rule of meeting them first and had her come over, big mistake.

I didn't treat her like a BP girl she acted like exactly that. Either way I think we both agree that she is not worth a repeat.

Pubb69
06-28-18, 21:07
After a few messages back and forth we agreed to a meet and greet tonight.

Nothing discussed in the way of money until I was ready to leave the house after confirming.

The last text she sent me was " I don't know if we discussed compensation but it will be $500".

This is for a 30 minute meeting are these women out of their fucking minds!

ArmyNiceGuy
06-28-18, 21:32
After a few messages back and forth we agreed to a meet and greet tonight.

Nothing discussed in the way of money until I was ready to leave the house after confirming.

The last text she sent me was " I don't know if we discussed compensation but it will be $500".

This is for a 30 minute meeting are these women out of their fucking minds!Carter and her literal partner in crime Tatum, have been discussed here previously. Back in September / October they robbed one us brothers, avoid like the plague!

ArmyNiceGuy
06-28-18, 21:42
I went against my rule of meeting them first and had her come over, big mistake.

I didn't treat her like a BP girl she acted like exactly that. Either way I think we both agree that she is not worth a repeat.No Worries, not saying you treated her like one. Just saying skipping the M&G may have put a bad taste in her mouth. Ba dump bump cha!

On an interesting side note though I recently had a great covered FS date with a 20 yo traveling baby from charlotte. She prefers to skip the m&g because she gets ghosted too much but we had a great 1. 5 hr GFE date meeting at the fc (something I generally don't do as well) It can be a pain to read these girls sometimes.

DirtyDeeds38
06-29-18, 13:18
I've got to be a top 5 experienced SD in the area, been at this little hobby locally for the past five years. I've recently hooked up with another local SD and we party, trade dates, setup fun times with the girls, drinks, hotel parties, mini orgies, threesomes, girls bringing their friends to us, etc, etc, etc. For the record, nothing illegal and no paying for sex and no offering girls for $, no demons, no drugs, nobody underage. . All legit, legal having fun, so if you're someone into risky illegal shit, do not hit me up. I'm not getting into trouble over sugar dating. LOL. That said, if you're a like minded brother and want to meet up and play the scene locally with some drinks, share some war stories and connections, send me a PM. You'd be surprised what two like minded brothers can stir up out there! One rule I always keep, we both keep our private lives, private! And I will always respect that!

Pubb69
06-29-18, 15:31
Carter and her literal partner in crime Tatum, have been discussed here previously. Back in September / October they robbed one us brothers, avoid like the plague!Glad I avoided that skank.

Pubb69
06-29-18, 17:45
On a mission to meet them all.

Anyone have any useful info on her.

Going to have a detailed report on at least 10 coming out soon.

Mark User
06-29-18, 19:47
On a mission to meet them all.

Anyone have any useful info on her.

Going to have a detailed report on at least 10 coming out soon.Oh, to have the bank account and energy you have! .

Pubb69
06-29-18, 20:00
Oh, to have the bank account and energy you have! .Half are meet and greet walk aways.

ArmyNiceGuy
06-29-18, 21:28
Hey there gents! I just wanted share some tips that have served me well. Also, I've been doing a lot of surfing the net from the sugar baby's point of view to get a better idea of how they think and I've got a heaping ton of info for why'all.

Negotiating tips: Lots of babies seem to throw out a number that's usually 40% or more higher than what they will settle for. Can't blame them really if some daddy will be happy to pay that, but you can sweet talk them lower. Also, I always try to put off negotiation until the m&g. If I can buy some time to spit a little game, emphasize my youth, get them laughing, the allowance will go down. If they want a monthly allowance, I tell them that I don't like to do that anymore and in my experience per meet is always easier for everyone, let them know they never have to worry about you ghosting if you pay per meet. You also don't have to worry about them ghosting on you if they are foolish enough to expect monthly up front. Moreover, if come at you first with a per meet figure that's a little high, tell then you are used to monthly and tell them your usual monthly allowance averages out to a per meet number lower than their initial asking price.

Date tips: Never underestimate the power of chocolate. One of those fancy artisanal chocolate bars makes a great little token to give at a M&G or date to show you care. They can also just put it in their purse so it's discreet. I like to give allowance inside a cheap but cute or funny greeting card, it makes the baby feel like it's less of a transaction. Also chicks love cards.

FC tips. Most hotels will offer an early check in, good idea to call ahead if it's a daytime date. A cheaper hotel in a good area is usually better than a better hotel in a not so good area. I've had good luck with extended stays near business districts. Most other guests won't be paying attention to other people's business and prices are usually lower on weekend date nights because they cater to the midweek business crowd. Just make sure it's clean, no one wants bedbugs. Bring a cheap disposable electronic cigarette to the FC. If a baby turns out to be a smoker, getting dressed to go outside for a smoke can kill the mood if you're looking for round two. A five dollar ecig just might keep her naked and in the room with you after the first round of sex.

Now for the inside info: These girls may not have handlers but they are organized (just like us). Don't underestimate these girls, especially the smart college ones. They were born into the Information Age and know how to use social media. There are uncountable numbers of ****** posts with advice for them as well as lots of info on reddit. This one ****** post has over 200+ links of tips and advice for sugar babies. Most of it is innocent enough, make up tips, seduction, etiquette, safety, etc. Some of it is shit we need to know though! One article is all about how to milk every dime you can out of daddy. Good reading regardless!

https://shadow-kissed-demon.******.com/post/144653010690/sugar-baby-guide-w-200-tips

Stay safe out there gents.

Edit this site seems to edit out the name of a website that sounds a lot like tumbler, replace the asterisks in the link to go where you need to.

MedJohnson
06-30-18, 13:06
Any info on sweetj77? Fireflyxo98? Elizabeth&?

I usually play the AMPs and have shared what baby knowledge I have. Let me know if you wNt any AMP info.

Thanks brothers!

Med.

MedJohnson
06-30-18, 13:07
Thanks for info. Moving back to the SB game.

Med.


Hey there gents! I just wanted share some tips that have served me well. Also, I've been doing a lot of surfing the net from the sugar baby's point of view to get a better idea of how they think and I've got a heaping ton of info for why'all.

Negotiating tips: Lots of babies seem to throw out a number that's usually 40% or more higher than what they will settle for. Can't blame them really if some daddy will be happy to pay that, but you can sweet talk them lower. Also, I always try to put off negotiation until the m&g. If I can buy some time to spit a little game, emphasize my youth, get them laughing, the allowance will go down. If they want a monthly allowance, I tell them that I don't like to do that anymore and in my experience per meet is always easier for everyone, let them know they never have to worry about you ghosting if you pay per meet. You also don't have to worry about them ghosting on you if they are foolish enough to expect monthly up front. Moreover, if come at you first with a per meet figure that's a little high, tell then you are used to monthly and tell them your usual monthly allowance averages out to a per meet number lower than their initial asking price.

Date tips: Never underestimate the power of chocolate. One of those fancy artisanal chocolate bars makes a great little token to give at a M&G or date to show you care. They can also just put it in their purse so it's discreet. I like to give allowance inside a cheap but cute or funny greeting card, it makes the baby feel like it's less of a transaction. Also chicks love cards.

FC tips. Most hotels will offer an early check in, good idea to call ahead if it's a daytime date. A cheaper hotel in a good area is usually better than a better hotel in a not so good area. I've had good luck with extended stays near business districts. Most other guests won't be paying attention to other people's business and prices are usually lower on weekend date nights because they cater to the midweek business crowd. Just make sure it's clean, no one wants bedbugs. Bring a cheap disposable electronic cigarette to the FC. If a baby turns out to be a smoker, getting dressed to go outside for a smoke can kill the mood if you're looking for round two. A five dollar ecig just might keep her naked and in the room with you after the first round of sex.

Now for the inside info: These girls may not have handlers but they are organized (just like us). Don't underestimate these girls, especially the smart college ones. They were born into the Information Age and know how to use social media. There are uncountable numbers of ****** posts with advice for them as well as lots of info on reddit. This one ****** post has over 200+ links of tips and advice for sugar babies. Most of it is innocent enough, make up tips, seduction, etiquette, safety, etc. Some of it is shit we need to know though! One article is all about how to milk every dime you can out of daddy. Good reading regardless!

https://shadow-kissed-demon.******.com/post/144653010690/sugar-baby-guide-w-200-tips

Stay safe out there gents.

Edit this site seems to edit out the name of a website that sounds a lot like tumbler, replace the asterisks in the link to go where you need to.

Pubb69
06-30-18, 15:37
Hey there gents! I just wanted share some tips that have served me well. Also, I've been doing a lot of surfing the net from the sugar baby's point of view to get a better idea of how they think and I've got a heaping ton of info for why'all.

Negotiating tips: Lots of babies seem to throw out a number that's usually 40% or more higher than what they will settle for. Can't blame them really if some daddy will be happy to pay that, but you can sweet talk them lower. Also, I always try to put off negotiation until the m&g. If I can buy some time to spit a little game, emphasize my youth, get them laughing, the allowance will go down. If they want a monthly allowance, I tell them that I don't like to do that anymore and in my experience per meet is always easier for everyone, let them know they never have to worry about you ghosting if you pay per meet. You also don't have to worry about them ghosting on you if they are foolish enough to expect monthly up front. Moreover, if come at you first with a per meet figure that's a little high, tell then you are used to monthly and tell them your usual monthly allowance averages out to a per meet number lower than their initial asking price.

Date tips: Never underestimate the power of chocolate. One of those fancy artisanal chocolate bars makes a great little token to give at a M&G or date to show you care. They can also just put it in their purse so it's discreet. I like to give allowance inside a cheap but cute or funny greeting card, it makes the baby feel like it's less of a transaction. Also chicks love cards.

FC tips. Most hotels will offer an early check in, good idea to call ahead if it's a daytime date. A cheaper hotel in a good area is usually better than a better hotel in a not so good area. I've had good luck with extended stays near business districts. Most other guests won't be paying attention to other people's business and prices are usually lower on weekend date nights because they cater to the midweek business crowd. Just make sure it's clean, no one wants bedbugs. Bring a cheap disposable electronic cigarette to the FC. If a baby turns out to be a smoker, getting dressed to go outside for a smoke can kill the mood if you're looking for round two. A five dollar ecig just might keep her naked and in the room with you after the first round of sex.

Now for the inside info: These girls may not have handlers but they are organized (just like us). Don't underestimate these girls, especially the smart college ones. They were born into the Information Age and know how to use social media. There are uncountable numbers of ****** posts with advice for them as well as lots of info on reddit. This one ****** post has over 200+ links of tips and advice for sugar babies. Most of it is innocent enough, make up tips, seduction, etiquette, safety, etc. Some of it is shit we need to know though! One article is all about how to milk every dime you can out of daddy. Good reading regardless!

https://shadow-kissed-demon.******.com/post/144653010690/sugar-baby-guide-w-200-tips

Stay safe out there gents.

Edit this site seems to edit out the name of a website that sounds a lot like tumbler, replace the asterisks in the link to go where you need to.It takes about 2 months on the site to figure out the game.

The first thing you need to do is ignore the greeting messages, most are young pretentious college girls who are trying to impress.

You with what little they have learned in college and trying to establish themselves as highly cultural in order to attract the high powered execs.

The 2nd part is always ignore the monthly income, spoil me with clothing, spa visits etc. Because it ain't happening for them.

And if it were they wouldn't be on there 3 or 4 days a week looking.

The 3rd part is remember it's a numbers game and to try to find the medium of what it costs to get a young hot college chick vs.

A low end hoodie hustler. Offers of 200 is not going to do it for quality but requests of 700 to a thousand are insulting because they are trying to milk you for all your worth, something between 3 and 5 should hit the sweet spot for quality.

Lastly always remember that this is a prostitution site and these girls are only there for your money so don't think about having any type of personal relationship. These women that state that they are looking for dating are full of shit because in the real world dating doesn't require cash compensation. All that being said treat them nice but don't let them make a fool out of you.

DirtyDeeds38
06-30-18, 16:23
It takes about 2 months on the site to figure out the game.

The first thing you need to do is ignore the greeting messages, most are young pretentious college girls who are trying to impress.

You with what little they have learned in college and trying to establish themselves as highly cultural in order to attract the high powered execs.

The 2nd part is always ignore the monthly income, spoil me with clothing, spa visits etc. Because it ain't happening for them.

And if it were they wouldn't be on there 3 or 4 days a week looking.

The 3rd part is remember it's a numbers game and to try to find the medium of what it costs to get a young hot college chick vs..Great post, but I don't think there are any absolutes in this arena. I've dated probably over 100 sugar babies over the past five years and still have a few of the girls I originally met wanting to play from time to time. I never once have went over 300 for any allowance and generally speaking have had no issues getting quality girls for 100-200, but again, I do not believe I'm your typical run of the mill daddy. I can adapt and relate and make it a personable experience in many ways for these girls.

I have had many, many non allowance FC sessions. Even a Duke girl who was a total nerdy, but hot 23 years old, one of these hot, but she didn't know it types. Going to school to be a neurosurgeon and she just wanted a hot random experience with an older man. And boy did I give her one. She didn't take a penny. The two girls my buddy and I rocked the other night. Yes, we allowance them, but the next day, they were so into what we had done, the two girls offered another night for no allowance. I've met many lonely, but semi-hot 30-something women who don't even want an allowance, they just want a man and some fun. I've even met a few girls on there who had and make more money then me. I've met two recent doctor graduates who were MD's late 20 and early 30. They just thought it might be a good site to score a man who, "had his shit together."

Anything goes and anything can be found on SA if you play it right and look long enough. I've had orgy parties, threesomes, young hot girls who truly just wanted to experience an older man and to be fucked right, girls who wanted to be a trained sub. Most all of these girls will do a threesomes too, if you bring the right other girl. They love it and get into it. You name it! I like a variety so I tend to move on to the next girl. Yes, I do pay allowances, but my point is, there are other experiences to be found. And 95% of the time, I do not go over 200. I had a girl last week tell me she has never taken a sugar date for less than 400, but agreed to my 200 as she put it, "you're kind of hot and I have fun with you." Again, I gave her a personable experience.

A lot of this that factors in, are you age, looks and how you relate to these girls. Most want a man to dominate them, but if you give them the feeling there is a connection there, you're in.

MedJohnson
07-01-18, 09:46
Scammer looking for monthly allowance up front. Must think we are all idiots or that we can only think with little head!

On a different note, has anyone had luck with the chicks that say they are looking for "platonic". Wondering if they are actually down for more but using that to weed out the mongers?

Med.

ArmyNiceGuy
07-01-18, 12:46
I'm not freaking out or anything, but DeeOGeebby is definitely not the person she pretended to be for me and it's definitely time for my 6 month check up. If any of you brothers have dreamed of her in the last month or so, please PM me.

Pubb69
07-01-18, 14:52
Scammer looking for monthly allowance up front. Must think we are all idiots or that we can only think with little head!

On a different note, has anyone had luck with the chicks that say they are looking for "platonic". Wondering if they are actually down for more but using that to weed out the mongers?

Med.When they say platonic all it means is they are looking for free money.

Got to love those entitled monthly allowance dreamers who post daily.

Pubb69
07-01-18, 22:05
The very first one I met on that site. We arranged a meet and greet and she had the assumption of being paid 3 for the meeting.

That lasted 15 minutes at a coffee shop as long as we both agreed to future meetings. Needless to say she came away empty.

But I think it is part of her and others scam where they get money in person for promising future meetings and then ghosting.

I notice her greeting says she is only looking for one person yet she is on there daily as well as some others.

SneakyMan
07-02-18, 08:02
The very first one I met on that site. We arranged a meet and greet and she had the assumption of being paid 3 for the meeting.

That lasted 15 minutes at a coffee shop as long as we both agreed to future meetings. Needless to say she came away empty.

But I think it is part of her and others scam where they get money in person for promising future meetings and then ghosting.

I notice her greeting says she is only looking for one person yet she is on there daily as well as some others.I met her. No expectation of an allowance. Not attractive and no way. Also, she was on before with a different profile.

Pubb69
07-02-18, 11:21
I feel that I am doing all the work on here but I will share anyway to save others the grief.

She texts me with what has become the standard bs offer of 5, I respond with it depends on what's offered and what length of time. She responds with I typically don't have a lot of time to spend, my response is than I pay 3 for one hour visits.

Her response is but I can get 5 for less time than a hour. My response. LOL.

SneakyMan
07-02-18, 20:07
I feel that I am doing all the work on here but I will share anyway to save others the grief.

She texts me with what has become the standard bs offer of 5, I respond with it depends on what's offered and what length of time. She responds with I typically don't have a lot of time to spend, my response is than I pay 3 for one hour visits.

Her response is but I can get 5 for less time than a hour. My response. LOL.She contacted me also with essentially the same. Seems ready to go to the FC. Had a previous contact with her. Waste of time.

SneakyMan
07-02-18, 20:16
A few reports.

Littlewolfpackgirl. Took her to the FC a few times. Was okay. Advcnced some funds and then she ghost. Bewaware.

Kayjay87. Basically the same. FC was pretty good, then advanced some funds than poof.

Basically no matter how nice or good they seem, all are bat shit crazy hookers so be careful.

Pubb69
07-03-18, 14:31
A few reports.

Littlewolfpackgirl. Took her to the FC a few times. Was okay. Advcnced some funds and then she ghost. Bewaware.

Kayjay87. Basically the same. FC was pretty good, then advanced some funds than poof.

Basically no matter how nice or good they seem, all are bat shit crazy hookers so be careful.They all look at the site as a bank withdrawal from someone else's account. Speaking of scam artists a fan favorite has made her return, yes Rising 4 Dawn is back and working the site hard.

NepKng
07-03-18, 14:47
Has anyone gotten together with her-been talking but so far it's been a no go.

Mark User
07-03-18, 14:48
A few reports.

Littlewolfpackgirl. Took her to the FC a few times. Was okay. Advcnced some funds and then she ghost. Bewaware.

Kayjay87. Basically the same. FC was pretty good, then advanced some funds than poof.

Basically no matter how nice or good they seem, all are bat shit crazy hookers so be careful.Without the text search feature, it would help to find these leads if you could post their link. Thanks!!

SneakyMan
07-03-18, 20:06
Without the text search feature, it would help to find these leads if you could post their link. Thanks!!I would if I could but either been blocked or they are no longer active.

RWarNmsn69
07-03-18, 23:55
Without the text search feature, it would help to find these leads if you could post their link. Thanks!!


The keyword search feature is gone but you can still perform a keyword search by enetering the following in the URL:

&q=keyword.

For example: if you want to search for keyword of "Dtf" use the following:

https://www.seekingarrangement.com/search?city=Arlington%20County&country=United%20States&lat=38.8816208&limit=25&lon=-77.09098089999998&page=1&radius=100&region=Virginia&sortBy=recently-active&user_location=0&q=dtf

You can see other search filters I've used like within 100 miles of Arlington but the keyword search is at the end of the url. Just replace dtf with whatever you want to search for.Thanks to a fellow SA monger on the Baltimore forum, here is a workaround for the missing keyword (I. E. , potential SB's username) search. It works wonderfully!

RWARNMSN.

Safe mongering and sugaring!

ArmyNiceGuy
07-04-18, 11:41
Thanks to a fellow SA monger on the Baltimore forum, here is a workaround for the missing keyword (I. E. , potential SB's username) search. It works wonderfully!

RWARNMSN.

Safe mongering and sugaring!Keyword search has been essential to my sugar searching. When it first went down I opened a support ticket but the only thing they told me was their development team was working to improve it and that feature is deactivated until further notice. It's been about a month now and no word. I can't thank you enough for this work around!

Pubb69
07-04-18, 13:12
Keyword search has been essential to my sugar searching. When it first went down I opened a support ticket but the only thing they told me was their development team was working to improve it and that feature is deactivated until further notice. It's been about a month now and no word. I can't thank you enough for this work around!Most are easy as the same ones work the site daily. I never really had trouble finding any of the names.

MrNCbob
07-04-18, 13:27
I am hoping you guys can provide some info. I have two UTRs (Twins). They are UTR because they really don't have the type of living arrangements to allow a BP-style post. They don't live together, they are dirt poor and can't drive. One does not even have a working phone. If you are familiar with them, yes, they are healthy for about 6 months. But I fear one is slipping away due to difficulty getting to her rehab appointments. Anyway, I am trying to find out if anyone knows if the SBs have to pay to be on SA, or is it free for them to post and be able to communicate? I know SA has "free" sign up but with no commuication, the free part is useless. Part of me does not want to share, but I don't want to see my honey hole dry up. Any info is appreciated. As with all prior, this post is about my dreams, not reality.

Trialrun
07-04-18, 17:35
I am hoping you guys can provide some info. I have two UTRs (Twins). They are UTR because they really don't have the type of living arrangements to allow a BP-style post. They don't live together, they are dirt poor and can't drive. One does not even have a working phone. If you are familiar with them, yes, they are healthy for about 6 months. But I fear one is slipping away due to difficulty getting to her rehab appointments. Anyway, I am trying to find out if anyone knows if the SBs have to pay to be on SA, or is it free for them to post and be able to communicate? I know SA has "free" sign up but with no commuication, the free part is useless. Part of me does not want to share, but I don't want to see my honey hole dry up. Any info is appreciated. As with all prior, this post is about my dreams, not reality.I am pretty sure the ladies do not need to pay to participate. In fact, it surprised one of them when I explained that guys needed to have premium status to read messages.

Pubb69
07-04-18, 19:10
She has been on the site all week and claims to be visiting. Had a meet and greet set up for today but she was under the false impression that it was a dinner date. When I told her it was non commital either side she starts her squabbling about her time being worth money blah blah blah and how she cancelled all her plans to meet me and how offended she was that I wouldn't just.

Pay her for the meeting without talking about it being non committal.

When these women go on this site they know it's about FFM yet they are so hypocritical it makes me laugh.

MedJohnson
07-04-18, 19:55
I believe she is snowbunnyheidi on live esc rt rev.

Any thoughts?

Wanted $600 to play.

Med.

Pubb69
07-04-18, 20:30
I believe she is snowbunnyheidi on live esc rt rev.

Any thoughts?

Wanted $600 to play.

Med.Seen her.

Uh that is stunning. Did you respond with a fit of laughter?

MedJohnson
07-04-18, 21:01
Are they one in the same?

Damage when you saw her?

Med.


Seen her.

Uh that is stunning. Did you respond with a fit of laughter?

Pubb69
07-04-18, 21:18
Are they one in the same?

Damage when you saw her?

Med.Sorry about the misinterpretation.

I meant I seen her on the site and she is.

Not attractive, also on there every day.

ArmyNiceGuy
07-05-18, 00:53
I believe she is snowbunnyheidi on live esc rt rev.

Any thoughts?

Wanted $600 to play.

Med.I had a few dates with Summer, definitely 100% not Heidi. Also Summer ghosted on me after I gave her an advance back when I was a newbie to the bowl. I figured she wouldn't be so bold or stupid to ghost on someone that knew where she lived but she did. She was happy to settle for $$. 5- last winter, not even close to worth $$ LOL. She's been reported on here before by myself and another brother. Just avoid.

Pubb69
07-05-18, 15:34
Been texting back and forth for a couple of days, the longer it goes on the more I doubt she is real.

Does anyone have intel on her?

SneakyMan
07-05-18, 16:06
Been texting back and forth for a couple of days, the longer it goes on the more I doubt she is real.

Does anyone have intel on her?Yea, had the same issue several months ago and a meeting set and never heard another word. Then her profile started showing up in different locations. Betting she a utr.

Pubb69
07-05-18, 18:32
Yea, had the same issue several months ago and a meeting set and never heard another word. Then her profile started showing up in different locations. Betting she a utr.We shall see. Have my doubts but will post either way.

MedJohnson
07-05-18, 20:42
Any intel?

Thanks.

Med.

Pubb69
07-05-18, 21:57
We shall see. Have my doubts but will post either way.Ok my doubts were confirmed, took me right up to the limit with sparotic texts and finally when I asked her to confirm.

That she was driving herself she went silent. She wanted to meet me at 11 and asked for my address but not going for that unless.

I know she was driving herself. I suspect a scam and or possible rob.

NepKng
07-06-18, 15:44
Has anyone gotten together with her-been talking but so far it's been a no go.Seemed nice and ready for fun-talked for a while-met a couple of times to "get comfortable" thought things were all good then ghost. Not sure if I'm not her type or if she's just a game player YMMV.

Pubb69
07-07-18, 13:06
Formerly Jay Baby.

Avoid this hustler, she asks for 3 plus than gives the q. V. Experience. Also bigger than the pics.

XxJohnJohnXx
07-07-18, 17:44
I agree with our brother pubb69 , avoid this girl at all cost and her partner too, they are both cut by the same blade and I'm telling yall from someone that used to see jaybabyxoxo and know her really really close, I cut her off when I discovered the true monster that she is and when she came to my house crying needing $$ for an abortion and this was just 2 months ago perhaps that explains her weight gain, anyways long story short I used to be one of her regulars, she lied to me since the begging saying that she was a college student we got relatively close and friend requested me on face of the books, and that's when I started to discover all her lies if you check out her profile you can see the type of peeps she hangs out with mostly AA thuggish kinda guys, within 2 months I prolly saw her about 10 times and found out she was a pill addict, she was not enrolled in school, she was homeless for a while and living in hotels for about 2 weeks was seeing multiple guys at least 10 or more cause I acctually went trought her phone while she went to the bathroom at my house one time and saw the messages with the name (client) on the side she started acting weird since she made that one profile jaybabyxoxo and was wondering why apparently she met a guy named JAY and I saw him on her face of the book profile and decided to message him and he confirmed everything apparently he was hitting it raw and got the girl knocked up and he offered to take responsibility for it but she she didn't want the infant, I told the jay dude that she came to my house asking for money talking about the baby was mine not to mention she got arrested last year, she was living in chappel hill for a while with her sister but then got kicked out of her sisters for bringin dudes into her home and she currently lives with some AA guys that pimp her around and her friend, or should I say drive them around? Isn't that what they called them pimps these days drivers?? Anyways if you have seen her and still seeing her cut that off she is more then likely lying to you and if you haven't seen her steer away from these one TRUST ME nothing good coming out of these 2 girls they both getting it raw just matter of time before they get aids or something just not worth it!! Her phone number starts with 336.

MedJohnson
07-07-18, 18:23
All seems plausible from my brief interaction on SA with her. She shut down as soon as I asked about demons.

Med.


I agree with our brother pubb69 , avoid this girl at all cost and her partner too, they are both cut by the same blade and I'm telling yall from someone that used to see jaybabyxoxo and know her really really close, I cut her off when I discovered the true monster that she is and when she came to my house crying needing $$ for an abortion and this was just 2 months ago perhaps that explains her weight gain, anyways long story short I used to be one of her regulars, she lied to me since the begging saying that she was a college student we got relatively close and friend requested me on face of the books, and that's when I started to discover all her lies if you check out her profile you can see the type of peeps she hangs out with mostly AA thuggish kinda guys, within 2 months I prolly saw her about 10 times and found out she was a pill addict, she was not enrolled in school, she was homeless for a while and living in hotels for about 2 weeks was seeing multiple guys at least 10 or more cause I acctually went trought her phone while she went to the bathroom at my house one time and saw the messages with the name (client) on the side she started acting weird since she made that one profile jaybabyxoxo and was wondering why apparently she met a guy named JAY and I saw him on her face of the book profile and decided to message him and he confirmed everything apparently he was hitting it raw and got the girl knocked up and he offered to take responsibility for it but she she didn't want the infant, I told the jay dude that she came to my house asking for money talking about the baby was mine not to mention she got arrested last year, she was living in chappel hill for a while with her sister but then got kicked out of her sisters for bringin dudes into her home and she currently lives with some AA guys that pimp her around and her friend, or should I say drive them around? Isn't that what they called them pimps these days drivers?? Anyways if you have seen her and still seeing her cut that off she is more then likely lying to you and if you haven't seen her steer away from these one TRUST ME nothing good coming out of these 2 girls they both getting it raw just matter of time before they get aids or something just not worth it!! Her phone number starts with 336.

XxJohnJohnXx
07-07-18, 18:47
All seems plausible from my brief interaction on SA with her. She shut down as soon as I asked about demons.

Med.Shoulda said hey I have a friend that told me that you a baby killer is it truth?? I bet she would remember me, I mean after I found out she has had 3 abortions and threaten me with her AA thug friends I thought of nothing but a good nickname for her and called her that right on her face, boyyyyy that face expression and the following messages on my phone ill never forget!! She was pretty upset very very upset.

Ohhhh and here is a little yearbook picture of her in the hall of shame that uncle LEO took, she looks pretty doesn't she? Such an angel awww.

https://bustednewspaper.com/chatham-gabrielle-miller-2017-02-05-150800/

Pubb69
07-07-18, 20:54
Shoulda said hey I have a friend that told me that you a baby killer is it truth?? I bet she would remember me, I mean after I found out she has had 3 abortions and threaten me with her AA thug friends I thought of nothing but a good nickname for her and called her that right on her face, boyyyyy that face expression and the following messages on my phone ill never forget!! She was pretty upset very very upset.

Ohhhh and here is a little yearbook picture of her in the hall of shame that uncle LEO took, she looks pretty doesn't she? Such an angel awww.

https://bustednewspaper.com/chatham-gabrielle-miller-2017-02-05-150800/Her partner on there is Jewelloveme, another shadey one.

The funny thing about SA is you get the same skanks but at 3 times the cost.

Pubb69
07-09-18, 17:24
Has anyone else noticed a problem in that area.

Dates at the 4 to 6 range showing up unshowered and with dog breath.

SneakyMan
07-09-18, 18:57
Has anyone else noticed a problem in that area.

Dates at the 4 to 6 range showing up unshowered and with dog breath.Yes, and unshaven armpits, legs, pussy.

CallMeWill
07-10-18, 16:26
I had a few dates with Summer, definitely 100% not Heidi. Also Summer ghosted on me after I gave her an advance back when I was a newbie to the bowl. I figured she wouldn't be so bold or stupid to ghost on someone that knew where she lived but she did. She was happy to settle for $$. 5- last winter, not even close to worth $$ LOL. She's been reported on here before by myself and another brother. Just avoid.Not sure if I was the other brother who reported on her. She no-showed me last summer on a M & G followed up by ghosting. Historically I never get no-shows on my M & Gs. BTW I had to re-register with a new User Name (was prev StormyTuesday) so I have to work my way back up to senior brother status. Oh Well.

CallMeWill
07-10-18, 16:36
I am hoping you guys can provide some info. I have two UTRs (Twins). They are UTR because they really don't have the type of living arrangements to allow a BP-style post. They don't live together, they are dirt poor and can't drive. One does not even have a working phone. If you are familiar with them, yes, they are healthy for about 6 months. But I fear one is slipping away due to difficulty getting to her rehab appointments. Anyway, I am trying to find out if anyone knows if the SBs have to pay to be on SA, or is it free for them to post and be able to communicate? I know SA has "free" sign up but with no commuication, the free part is useless. Part of me does not want to share, but I don't want to see my honey hole dry up. Any info is appreciated. As with all prior, this post is about my dreams, not reality.Just sent you a PM.

Pubb69
07-10-18, 16:43
Yes, and unshaven armpits, legs, pussy.Yet they all consider themselves too good and upscale. Really nothing but disappointments so far.

Is there some millennial thing going on to not shave there pussys and not douche?

CallMeWill
07-10-18, 16:47
Great post, but I don't think there are any absolutes in this arena. I've dated probably over 100 sugar babies over the past five years and still have a few of the girls I originally met wanting to play from time to time. I never once have went over 300 for any allowance and generally speaking have had no issues getting quality girls for 100-200, but again, I do not believe I'm your typical run of the mill daddy. I can adapt and relate and make it a personable experience in many ways for these girls.

I have had many, many non allowance FC sessions. Even a Duke girl who was a total nerdy, but hot 23 years old, one of these hot, but she didn't know it types. Going to school to be a neurosurgeon and she just wanted a hot random experience with an older man. And boy did I give her one. She didn't take a penny. The two girls my buddy and I rocked the other night. Yes, we allowance them, but the next day, they were so into what we had done, the two girls offered another night for no allowance. I've met many lonely, but semi-hot 30-something women who don't even want an allowance, they just want a man and some fun. I've even met a few girls on there who had and make more money then me. I've met two recent doctor graduates who were MD's late 20 and early 30. They just thought it might be a good site to score a man who, "had his shit together."

Anything goes and anything can be found on SA if you play it right and look long enough. I've had orgy parties, threesomes, young hot girls who truly just wanted to experience an older man and to be fucked right, girls who wanted to be a trained sub. Most all of these girls will do a threesomes too, if you bring the right other girl. They love it and get into it. You name it! I like a variety so I tend to move on to the next girl. Yes, I do pay allowances, but my point is, there are other experiences to be found. And 95% of the time, I do not go over 200. I had a girl last week tell me she has never taken a sugar date for less than 400, but agreed to my 200 as she put it, "you're kind of hot and I have fun with you." Again, I gave her a personable experience.

A lot of this that factors in, are you age, looks and how you relate to these girls. Most want a man to dominate them, but if you give them the feeling there is a connection there, you're in.You and I already know we are on the same page. I had to re-register a new User Name, for some odd reason could not get my StormyTuesday name to work after the new owners took over the site. Now I have to work back up to Senior Brother status LOL.

I sent a password reminder to the email associated with your forum account.

A2

YayaGogo
07-10-18, 17:06
Has anyone else noticed a problem in that area.

Dates at the 4 to 6 range showing up unshowered and with dog breath.Sorry, are you saying 4 to 6 in looks or allowance? Still unacceptable either way.

Pubb69
07-10-18, 21:22
Sorry, are you saying 4 to 6 in looks or allowance? Still unacceptable either way.Allowance, but as far as looks go maybe a 7.

A redhead named Margii was about the best I met. She had an incredibly high opinion of herself and the value of her time.

Unfortunately the experience was just only average.

YayaGogo
07-10-18, 22:52
Allowance, but as far as looks go maybe a 7.

A redhead named Margii was about the best I met. She had an incredibly high opinion of herself and the value of her time.

Unfortunately the experience was just only average.Sorry Pubb, but I echo the previous poster that there is NO WAY that anyone should command 4 to 6 bills in this area, unless she's staying the weekend and also cleaning my house. I've only gone as high as 3 once, and she was a legitimate 6 foot tall Brazillian model with DD's that did everything I wanted for a few hours at a time. Otherwise I'm ALWAYS paying 2 bills or less for multi hour fun times with unbelievably HOT college girls (currently I have two 18 year olds I see), and it's all because I put the effort to be nice to them and make that connection they're looking for while everyone else seems to do the opposite. If you have that kind of bankroll and want to spend it every meet then go for it, but you can easily cut that in half and get better quality girls than you're getting now (clean and well groomed) just by developing some game. Good luck!

Yaya.

MedJohnson
07-11-18, 11:00
If I had the time and energy to bring that much game, I wouldn't be paying, other than buying dinner. I don't get bringing game and p4 p. Plus, I'm not in the bowl for a relationship, just young wet kitty.

Med.


Sorry Pubb, but I echo the previous poster that there is NO WAY that anyone should command 4 to 6 bills in this area, unless she's staying the weekend and also cleaning my house. I've only gone as high as 3 once, and she was a legitimate 6 foot tall Brazillian model with DD's that did everything I wanted for a few hours at a time. Otherwise I'm ALWAYS paying 2 bills or less for multi hour fun times with unbelievably HOT college girls (currently I have two 18 year olds I see), and it's all because I put the effort to be nice to them and make that connection they're looking for while everyone else seems to do the opposite. If you have that kind of bankroll and want to spend it every meet then go for it, but you can easily cut that in half and get better quality girls than you're getting now (clean and well groomed) just by developing some game. Good luck!

Yaya.

Pubb69
07-11-18, 15:36
Sorry Pubb, but I echo the previous poster that there is NO WAY that anyone should command 4 to 6 bills in this area, unless she's staying the weekend and also cleaning my house. I've only gone as high as 3 once, and she was a legitimate 6 foot tall Brazillian model with DD's that did everything I wanted for a few hours at a time. Otherwise I'm ALWAYS paying 2 bills or less for multi hour fun times with unbelievably HOT college girls (currently I have two 18 year olds I see), and it's all because I put the effort to be nice to them and make that connection they're looking for while everyone else seems to do the opposite. If you have that kind of bankroll and want to spend it every meet then go for it, but you can easily cut that in half and get better quality girls than you're getting now (clean and well groomed) just by developing some game. Good luck!

Yaya.Hmmm.

Every one I contacted has asked for 5, most have turned down my request of 2 hours or more at that rate.

Granted most are not even worth 2 I call bs on your post unless you want to bring up the names of the ones that are accepting.

Your short money offers.

I have posted names on every one of my meetings where you are generalizing and boasting. Give us some names and your post.

Will be credible otherwise it means nothing.

YayaGogo
07-11-18, 16:10
If I had the time and energy to bring that much game, I wouldn't be paying, other than buying dinner. I don't get bringing game and p4 p. Plus, I'm not in the bowl for a relationship, just young wet kitty.

Med.I have a SO so not looking for a relationship either. Just saying that if you're not creepy in your approach it'll help land the girls that get scared off the site after a week or two.

YayaGogo
07-11-18, 16:19
Hmmm.

Every one I contacted has asked for 5, most have turned down my request of 2 hours or more at that rate.

Granted most are not even worth 2 I call bs on your post unless you want to bring up the names of the ones that are accepting.

Your short money offers.

I have posted names on every one of my meetings where you are generalizing and boasting. Give us some names and your post.

Will be credible otherwise it means nothing.Can't comment as I don't know your approach or experience. I never discuss allowance until we've met face to face (where it's harder for them to negotiate), and only in the context of 'helping with their bills'. Likewise, when time comes up it's always 'a couple of hours should do it'. I'm not boasting or saying I haven't met or attempted something with girls that ask for 4 or 5 bills and won't come down, I'm just saying that my years of experience in the bowl has taught me to never go for it because there are always plenty of girls that will go for much less. Good luck!

Yaya.

Pubb69
07-11-18, 19:16
Can't comment as I don't know your approach or experience. I never discuss allowance until we've met face to face (where it's harder for them to negotiate), and only in the context of 'helping with their bills'. Likewise, when time comes up it's always 'a couple of hours should do it'. I'm not boasting or saying I haven't met or attempted something with girls that ask for 4 or 5 bills and won't come down, I'm just saying that my years of experience in the bowl has taught me to never go for it because there are always plenty of girls that will go for much less. Good luck!

Yaya.Again, if you want to contribute to the board give the names of the ones you met. I certainly have and consider it useful to others.

Pubb69
07-13-18, 11:32
Seems to want 5 for a 30 minute visit. Laughable

SneakyMan
07-13-18, 12:53
Seems to want 5 for a 30 minute visit. LaughableAt least she responded to you. Seems most of the ones I message just ignore me and that's before they figure out how ugly I am. LOL.

YayaGogo
07-13-18, 14:46
Again, if you want to contribute to the board give the names of the ones you met. I certainly have and consider it useful to others.Sorry that my input was not to your liking. However, I've learned a LOT through personal experience over the years and I'm happy to share what has worked and not worked in the bowl. I'm sure that there are plenty of brothers reading this forum and elsewhere on this site that would appreciate tips on how to increase their chances of getting laid with their desired SB while saving some benjamins in the process. If that's not you, then that's fine too.

I've reviewed girls in the past that were active on the site at the time, have exchanged details privately with trusted senior members, and have even been burned by white knights trying to curry favor with a SB I've posted about. Both girls I'm currently seeing closed their SA accounts immediately after starting things with me because their needs are being met so there are no links to share. Happy hunting!

Yaya.

Gibbs70
07-14-18, 08:46
I'm out of contact for a few weeks, and come to see Yaya getting questioned, borderline rant? Let's all take a step back and work to better understand the bowl. This is not backpage, although some have leaked into this space.

Most girls in the bowl are either actual college girls looking for 1 or 2 guys to help them out, and others are UTR. Neither of which appreciate specific names being shared among other guys. They are not working girls, just girls looking to have some fun and payoff some debt.

As for rates, I have has several ask for 400 to 500, but never once paid over 250 (once). Standard rate is 200, but that is lowered based on looks and ability for them to host. Sharing names here is not something I am comfortable with either, as I don't want to upset my SB (or two, or three.). I've PM'd with a few of the Sr's who are questioning the bowl, and would be happy to chat about approach and price in a not so public manner. I am in the middle of an extensive move, so maybe a little slow responding. I will also go back and try to find a few of the working girls. They change accounts regularly.

Stay safe,

Gibbs.


Sorry that my input was not to your liking. However, I've learned a LOT through personal experience over the years and I'm happy to share what has worked and not worked in the bowl. I'm sure that there are plenty of brothers reading this forum and elsewhere on this site that would appreciate tips on how to increase their chances of getting laid with their desired SB while saving some benjamins in the process. If that's not you, then that's fine too.

I've reviewed girls in the past that were active on the site at the time, have exchanged details privately with trusted senior members, and have even been burned by white knights trying to curry favor with a SB I've posted about. Both girls I'm currently seeing closed their SA accounts immediately after starting things with me because their needs are being met so there are no links to share. Happy hunting!

Yaya.

Pubb69
07-14-18, 14:40
I'm out of contact for a few weeks, and come to see Yaya getting questioned, borderline rant? Let's all take a step back and work to better understand the bowl. This is not backpage, although some have leaked into this space.

Most girls in the bowl are either actual college girls looking for 1 or 2 guys to help them out, and others are UTR. Neither of which appreciate specific names being shared among other guys. They are not working girls, just girls looking to have some fun and payoff some debt.

As for rates, I have has several ask for 400 to 500, but never once paid over 250 (once). Standard rate is 200, but that is lowered based on looks and ability for them to host. Sharing names here is not something I am comfortable with either, as I don't want to upset my SB (or two, or three.). I've PM'd with a few of the Sr's who are questioning the bowl, and would be happy to chat about approach and price in a not so public manner. I am in the middle of an extensive move, so maybe a little slow responding. I will also go back and try to find a few of the working girls. They change accounts regularly.

Stay safe,

Gibbs.This information is simply false. The standard on SA is 500 and what you can get for it is up for negotiation. In my time on there I have not found one able to host, sometimes the only way to get a response from them is to offer them 200 and they will respond back that your cheap and they know their worth. Let's not kid anybody that site is a ffm site, now some of the girls may be pretentious about it but in the end they know what they have to do to extract money from the guys.

Gibbs70
07-14-18, 22:01
You can believe as you wish, and move on. More college sweetness for me. Enough on this topic from me, and I wish you the best in whatever site you move on to.


This information is simply false. The standard on SA is 500 and what you can get for it is up for negotiation. In my time on there I have not found one able to host, sometimes the only way to get a response from them is to offer them 200 and they will respond back that your cheap and they know their worth. Let's not kid anybody that site is a ffm site, now some of the girls may be pretentious about it but in the end they know what they have to do to extract money from the guys.

NepKng
07-16-18, 11:35
You can believe as you wish, and move on. More college sweetness for me. Enough on this topic from me, and I wish you the best in whatever site you move on to.My experience has been the same as Gibbs. There are all kinds on there-I've come across some that are BP girls and some that are way too expensive for me and won't budge but there are A LOT of ladies on there that just want to have some fun with one guy who helps them out some-plenty can host-some can't or won't-just have to put in some time.

Pubb69
07-16-18, 14:09
My experience has been the same as Gibbs. There are all kinds on there-I've come across some that are BP girls and some that are way too expensive for me and won't budge but there are A LOT of ladies on there that just want to have some fun with one guy who helps them out some-plenty can host-some can't or won't-just have to put in some time.The idea of this site is to exchange useful information and to that end I will at least list the rip offs and ones to avoid as well as the ones that are decent. To come on here and state that you have a haven of hot college age girls and state that you scored them because you had "game' serves nobody.

Triptogamont
07-16-18, 15:18
Having played in the bowl a bit, I will give my (relatively worthless) opinion on allowances. I only ever talk pay per meet.

When I have tried to negotiate via PM / text / email, I have seen much higher numbers. Usually 500+. I assume because the girl wants more of a guarantee before she has actually put any work in. I usually counter with 200 and things get sour.

When I have arranged a meet without talking money (I tend to do coffee or a drink), I have been able to open negotiations at a much lower number. I assume because the girl is already here, she's put in some work, and she wants to get something out of it. I have stuck to 200 for an ok girl who cannot host. 250 max for a hottie. If she doesn't come down, I walk.

That being said, I haven't played in the bowl for a while. Too much other stuff going on, and I don't have the time for all the bullshit and effort required.

Good luck out there.

Pubb69
07-18-18, 14:59
Having played in the bowl a bit, I will give my (relatively worthless) opinion on allowances. I only ever talk pay per meet.

When I have tried to negotiate via PM / text / email, I have seen much higher numbers. Usually 500+. I assume because the girl wants more of a guarantee before she has actually put any work in. I usually counter with 200 and things get sour.

When I have arranged a meet without talking money (I tend to do coffee or a drink), I have been able to open negotiations at a much lower number. I assume because the girl is already here, she's put in some work, and she wants to get something out of it. I have stuck to 200 for an ok girl who cannot host. 250 max for a hottie. If she doesn't come down, I walk.

That being said, I haven't played in the bowl for a while. Too much other stuff going on, and I don't have the time for all the bullshit and effort required.

Good luck out there.The last part about B. S. And effort rings true. The truth of the matter is these women on SA have lower morals than escorts and rub providers. They know they are out there selling themselves but because of the nature of the site they think it allows them to play games with the ridiculous asking fees for essentially promises of nothing, essentially the majority are on there looking to get their bills paid for free by some sucker that buys their b. S. When they make these insane requests I always ask what can you do for me for that type of money, most don't even attempt to answer because they cannot.

AllInForfun
07-18-18, 21:13
I talked to her for about 2 weeks. All was going well so I setup a m&g to pick her up at her job after work. I arrived and she ghosted. Never heard from her again.

Very very few people who would have fit anywhere near her profile in the area. I spotted only one person eying me hard enough to be her. She was older and had a potbelly. It was dark enough that she would not get too much on me.

Stay safe!

MedJohnson
07-19-18, 11:53
Any intel on lenafair from SA?

Thanks brothers.

YayaGogo
07-20-18, 11:50
Any intel on lenafair from SA?

Thanks brothers.Older than my target demographic, but there's another one late 40's blonde with really nice tatas that very recently opened her account I might consider as a one off out of pure intrigue.

I'm also thinking about adding one of these on a temporary basis to my rotation. They're curvy (unlike my two long term all stars) but young, great tatas, and have the right attitude.

One wild one (all together) https://www.seeking.com/member/a299830c-683e-4cb2-b4fe-5917623d224b.

Jenn bunny (all together) https://www.seeking.com/member/93fcc796-b5e6-4f7e-a8d7-c014e61f8c94.

Lillex 33 https://www.seeking.com/member/072e699a-a3e1-42d3-8042-5ba490a1fb18.

If any seniors have any positive or negative info I should be aware of on either like if they are UTR or unsafe in any way etc I'd appreciate a heads up and would return the favor! Thanks in advance.

Yaya.

Pubb69
07-21-18, 14:44
Older than my target demographic, but there's another one late 40's blonde with really nice tatas that very recently opened her account I might consider as a one off out of pure intrigue.

I'm also thinking about adding one of these on a temporary basis to my rotation. They're curvy (unlike my two long term all stars) but young, great tatas, and have the right attitude.

One wild one (all together) https://www.seeking.com/member/a299830c-683e-4cb2-b4fe-5917623d224b.

Jenn bunny (all together) https://www.seeking.com/member/93fcc796-b5e6-4f7e-a8d7-c014e61f8c94.

Lillex 33 https://www.seeking.com/member/072e699a-a3e1-42d3-8042-5ba490a1fb18.

If any seniors have any positive or negative info I should be aware of on either like if they are UTR or unsafe in any way etc I'd appreciate a heads up and would return the favor! Thanks in advance.

Yaya.Good grief! I am going to take an extended break from that nightmare of a website featuring self called goddesses and entitled millennials that feel the slit between their legs is a free ticket to life's extravagances that everyone else had to work their asses off for. Not only are the majority unnatractive but their attitudes suck as well. I actually feel sorry for them when they find out that real life requires them to get a job and become responsible citizens as opposed to parasital leeches.

JellyBear
07-23-18, 16:28
Has anyone seen this lady.

Have a meet and greet setup with her.

https://members.whatsyourprice.com/~JessiR92

Her pictures look familiar from the BP world.

Jb.

SneakyMan
07-23-18, 16:42
Has anyone seen this lady.

Have a meet and greet setup with her.

https://members.whatsyourprice.com/~JessiR92

Her pictures look familiar from the BP world.

Jb.Use to go by Rachel Colby or something to that effect. Been discussed here before. Has some porn videos out there. Large woman but dtf and seems will do most anything if that's what you're looking for.

MedJohnson
07-23-18, 17:12
She's been bouncing between ral e and char lotte since 2016.

https://cityxguide.com/forums/topic/trying-this-sugar-baby-thing/page/18/


Has anyone seen this lady.

Have a meet and greet setup with her.

https://members.whatsyourprice.com/~JessiR92

Her pictures look familiar from the BP world.

Jb.

Pubb69
07-24-18, 11:01
$2500 I responded with this- ha ha ha ha ha ha ha how's $50 sound.

StevieTaper
07-24-18, 16:27
Use to go by Rachel Colby or something to that effect. Been discussed here before. Has some porn videos out there. Large woman but dtf and seems will do most anything if that's what you're looking for.Never met her, but when we talked when I first entered the bowl she wanted an outrageous 5 per meet. Others have said she is bigger than her pics portray.

Would love to know where those videos might be found.

SneakyMan
07-27-18, 22:55
Got to agree with Pubb69. [Deleted by Admin]

If you are agreeing with him then why are you writing about something that has nothing to do with what he wrote? He wrote about lazy chicks and you're saying the guys on this site are stupid.

A2

Pubb69
07-31-18, 13:09
The website raised its rates to $90 per month, all for the privilege of meeting these self important delusional women.

I love being called cheap when I laugh at someone wanting 500 to meet for dinner.

Pubb69
07-31-18, 19:05
Amynae41978 she is reviewed on here by another name but she frequented BP and is mid 40's. Reviews say she packs heat and is generally crazy, of course her rate has doubled along with outrageous benefit requests now that she is on SA.

Sugarfun15 This one is the massage chick from Cary that used old pics and is mid 40's as well. She is well reviewed on here for standing people up and being certifiably bat shit crazy and a general waste of time and money.

Rising4 Dawn She was on BP a lot last year in the bodyrubs section as a Tantric apprentice under Aria, she quit that because she considered it prostitution, now she is on SA "getting my hustle on" for a much higher asking price. She is mid Thirties and more attractive than the other Two but every bit as crazy.

LostInNc97
08-02-18, 08:25
https://www.seeking.com/member/cb697cd1-554a-45fe-ad67-787d63ff6b6e

Has anybody met this one?

Pubb69
08-03-18, 12:17
https://www.seeking.com/member/cb697cd1-554a-45fe-ad67-787d63ff6b6e

Has anybody met this one?Put her into the 75% range looking for platonic with a monthly allowance.

Does anyone really bite on that.

LuvCurvs
08-04-18, 00:59
Anyone have contact info for her?

https://www.seeking.com/member/e3f79c46-1396-4980-9132-ff4512da6b2d

Pubb69
08-04-18, 17:04
There must be about a dozen in the last 4 months pulling the I want to visit you but I am broke and my tank is empty if you send me money than I will come visit you. Somebody must be training these dumb chicks on how to scam guys. The offers keep coming in to pay them 2 thousand a month for sexy pics and phone conversations, I would love to know who and where they got these ideas from. Never seen so many useless entitled women on one website, they make the backpages look like a pillar of truth.

JellyBear
08-07-18, 10:56
Just started on the SD scene as the local provider scene is so flaky. But no success yet. Wanted to try WhatsYourPrice first. Did a couple of Meet and Greets for $ each. Both were super hot young 20's girls.

It was a good time and we discussed an amount for future with mostly the SB doing the host thing.

Halifille.

She did not indicate of a strictly platonic but wanted to get more comfortable before we go ahead with more intimacy. But as of now after couple of weeks after first meet she ghosted and no replies to text. I guess the $ for the first meet is her target or maybe I don't fit the bill for her. We did discuss $$$ for couple of hrs.

MichelleSuzy.

She is super cute. Better than pictures. She did say either monthly allowance or $$$ for couple of hrs. And you can do anything. I was more persuasive with this one and she said we can meet next week sometime and she clearly planned specific timings though we did not fix a day. But she too ghosted or moved on to other SD fishing and no response to text.

Some others are in the pipeline but I am already down close $400 without anything concrete going my way. I guess this is all part of the game. Though I agree that this is more fun than waiting in the hotel parking lots and being ghosted by local providers. But if it doesn't end up the way I want then all the $ is down the drain LOL. I think WYP seems pretty limited. I have to try the SA next if even at least one SB doesn't work out.

Jb.

JellyBear
08-07-18, 12:11
Anybody saw her or any info please hit me up. She wants $$ for the hour even before first Meet and Greet. Says she just flew in and stays in an Extended stay. She has come down $$ now. I suggested Meet outside first and if I don't see what I like the we go with the first date offer of 50 and if things go well we can do the $$ for the hr.

Sounds great but seems I am rushing into it. Let me know if anyone of the brothers has encountered.

https://members.whatsyourprice.com/~EmiMarie

Jb.

Pal5600
08-07-18, 13:31
Sorry Pubb, but I echo the previous poster that there is NO WAY that anyone should command 4 to 6 bills in this area, unless she's staying the weekend and also cleaning my house. I've only gone as high as 3 once, and she was a legitimate 6 foot tall Brazillian model with DD's that did everything I wanted for a few hours at a time. Otherwise I'm ALWAYS paying 2 bills or less for multi hour fun times with unbelievably HOT college girls (currently I have two 18 year olds I see), and it's all because I put the effort to be nice to them and make that connection they're looking for while everyone else seems to do the opposite. If you have that kind of bankroll and want to spend it every meet then go for it, but you can easily cut that in half and get better quality girls than you're getting now (clean and well groomed) just by developing some game. Good luck!

Yaya.Do anyone have any links to any hots 18 years old that will take 200 per meet for really?or is this just all talks. Would be nice to look at example rather then just talks.

Pubb69
08-07-18, 13:32
Just started on the SD scene as the local provider scene is so flaky. But no success yet. Wanted to try WhatsYourPrice first. Did a couple of Meet and Greets for $ each. Both were super hot young 20's girls.

It was a good time and we discussed an amount for future with mostly the SB doing the host thing.

Halifille.

She did not indicate of a strictly platonic but wanted to get more comfortable before we go ahead with more intimacy. But as of now after couple of weeks after first meet she ghosted and no replies to text. I guess the $ for the first meet is her target or maybe I don't fit the bill for her. We did discuss $$$ for couple of hrs.

MichelleSuzy.

She is super cute. Better than pictures. She did say either monthly allowance or $$$ for couple of hrs. And you can do anything. I was more persuasive with this one and she said we can meet next week sometime and she clearly planned specific timings though we did not fix a day. But she too ghosted or moved on to other SD fishing and no response to text.

Some others are in the pipeline but I am already down close $400 without anything concrete going my way. I guess this is all part of the game. Though I agree that this is more fun than waiting in the hotel parking lots and being ghosted by local providers. But if it doesn't end up the way I want then all the $ is down the drain LOL. I think WYP seems pretty limited. I have to try the SA next if even at least one SB doesn't work out.

Jb.Hate to say it but you got catfished. There are just enough guys on there that will go for that nonsense to make it very profitable for the women who have no intention of doing anything but grabbing a quick hundred or more every so often.

That site is a joke, SA has morphed into the same type of scam site as well, if guys are willing to pay just to meet them in a public place then that's all they need to do to make money. I laugh at them when they request money from me for the privelage of buying them a free meal. A simple get lost is adequate.

Triptogamont
08-07-18, 13:45
Please don't give SBs ANY CASH until AFTER you've fucked them.

You're only helping to screw up the system. Not that it needs any help.

YayaGogo
08-07-18, 16:04
Please don't give SBs ANY CASH until AFTER you've fucked them.

You're only helping to screw up the system. Not that it needs any help.+1.

No cash for initial meet EVER.

No cash to 'show you're serious' EVER.

No cash to be deducted on future meets (aka 'I'll make it up to you next time') EVER.

No allowance exchanged until after intimacy PERIOD (this also allows you to control if you want to gift more or less).

Good Luck everyone, the influx of college girls for the fall semester is soon to begin!

Yaya.

JellyBear
08-07-18, 17:03
Hate to say it but you got catfished. There are just enough guys on there that will go for that nonsense to make it very profitable for the women who have no intention of doing anything but grabbing a quick hundred or more every so often.

That site is a joke, SA has morphed into the same type of scam site as well, if guys are willing to pay just to meet them in a public place then that's all they need to do to make money. I laugh at them when they request money from me for the privelage of buying them a free meal. A simple get lost is adequate.Oh well! I thought this would be the premise for future arrangement. Lesson learned.

JellyBear
08-07-18, 19:04
+1.

No cash for initial meet EVER.

No cash to 'show you're serious' EVER.

No cash to be deducted on future meets (aka 'I'll make it up to you next time') EVER.

No allowance exchanged until after intimacy PERIOD (this also allows you to control if you want to gift more or less).

Good Luck everyone, the influx of college girls for the fall semester is soon to begin!

Yaya.How do we make sure the SBs are not LE.

Pubb69
08-07-18, 19:29
Oh well! I thought this would be the premise for future arrangement. Lesson learned.That's why they do it, got to use common sense. Right now the site is a joke with either scam artists or disillusioned young millennials thinking there are millionaires anxious to throw money at them because they have a slit between their legs that they

are not going to let them see anyway. "I am looking to be treated like the queen I am and expect a monthly allowance along with tuition and rent with car payments, shopping sprees, etc etc".

Then there are a few that are simply desperate for money that are on there as a last resort. I feel sorry for them but it is hard to sort out their story from the other scam artists.

Pubb69
08-07-18, 19:33
Please don't give SBs ANY CASH until AFTER you've fucked them.

You're only helping to screw up the system. Not that it needs any help.You mean until after they fucked you.

Pubb69
08-12-18, 13:24
First one says she is from Apex, it appears she has been on the site for over a year. She has the " I am a broke college student and have no money for a laptop" scam going on, claims she works 2 jobs and is too busy to meet anyone so she just wants money sent to her in return for doing nothing. Can Someone please help her LOL.

Next up is Brooklyn Bridge, this fraud is from Greensboro and claims she works as a traveling nurse but is always too broke to put gas in her tank so if anyone wants to meet her just send her a $100 and she will be on the way LOL.

VincentCor74
08-15-18, 11:00
All the local college girls have moved back or are moving back in town.

They all need:

1.) to make first months rent.

2.) to buy books.

3.) new stuff for dorm rooms.

4.) new clothes to show off to friends.

5.) money to buy weed / booze with.

It's a good time to be an SD right now, IMO.

VincentCor74
08-16-18, 19:45
Brooklyn is actually a dancer at CC. Unless I have her mixed up w / a different Brooklyn.

Thick brunette late 20's / early 30's?


First one says she is from Apex, it appears she has been on the site for over a year. She has the " I am a broke college student and have no money for a laptop" scam going on, claims she works 2 jobs and is too busy to meet anyone so she just wants money sent to her in return for doing nothing. Can Someone please help her LOL.

Next up is Brooklyn Bridge, this fraud is from Greensboro and claims she works as a traveling nurse but is always too broke to put gas in her tank so if anyone wants to meet her just send her a $100 and she will be on the way LOL.

Pubb69
08-16-18, 21:23
Brooklyn is actually a dancer at CC. Unless I have her mixed up w / a different Brooklyn.

Thick brunette late 20's / early 30's?Your mistaken, different Brooklyn. I think she was removed anyway.

Also 85% of these college girls don't even want to meet, instead they want money for pics or conversations.

VincentCor74
08-17-18, 07:28
Your mistaken, different Brooklyn. I think she was removed anyway.

Also 85% of these college girls don't even want to meet, instead they want money for pics or conversations.Sorry- mixed them up.

That hasn't been my experience w / the college ladies but good luck.

Pubb69
08-17-18, 12:18
Sorry- mixed them up.

That hasn't been my experience w / the college ladies but good luck.Just go through their greetings, the word I read most often is platonic. Now if you want to share the names of those who are for real than that would actually mean something otherwise the general view of that site is just a bunch of young women looking to extract money from older guys by offering nothing.

VincentCor74
08-17-18, 12:39
[Deleted by Admin]

Two things

1. Stop being a dick

2. if you were a senior member then use that account, if you don't want to for whatever reason then be a rookie and be happy with that.

A2

Pubb69
08-19-18, 17:44
She has been on and off the site the past few months, a divorcee somewhere around 40. I had a 15 minute conversation with her and came away with the impression that she is deeply disturbed, she appeared snobbish and disillusioned about her own importance or more specifically lack of. Just reading her long drawn out greeting alone is punishment to the soul.

Pubb69
08-24-18, 16:51
She is from Goldsboro, claims to be 18 and communication was straight forward until I told her that before I discuss anything I need to see an I'd. This ended all communication. I would tell anyone to be extra careful on what you say to women on that site as there could be more trouble than it could ever be worth.

Pbone888
08-26-18, 00:43
She has been on and off the site the past few months, a divorcee somewhere around 40. I had a 15 minute conversation with her and came away with the impression that she is deeply disturbed, she appeared snobbish and disillusioned about her own importance or more specifically lack of. Just reading her long drawn out greeting alone is punishment to the soul.I saw her a few months back. You nailed the description. Funny story though. She's divorced from a rich Pakistani doctor who probably thought she was crazy too. She is.

We texted for a few days. Then one like Tuesday night at midnight I get a text from her saying "come fuck me" with a picture of her and a friend naked in a hot tub. I say sure. He's at an apartment complex in Cary. Playing in the pool and hot tub after hours with her female friend and the fruends boyfriend. I get there and she blows me while her friend watches. Her friend says you can only cum when I say do. I say sure. After ten minutes she says cum now! And no lie I unload on this girl's shoulder and thigh. Friend takes off and I'm stuck talking to crazy chick for another two hours. I try to give her some money and she says no.

I leave.

Rest of the week she texts me guilting me on no money. Weird. Also she looks better in pictures. Sucks mean cock though.

Pubb69
08-26-18, 15:52
I saw her a few months back. You nailed the description. Funny story though. She's divorced from a rich Pakistani doctor who probably thought she was crazy too. She is.

We texted for a few days. Then one like Tuesday night at midnight I get a text from her saying "come fuck me" with a picture of her and a friend naked in a hot tub. I say sure. He's at an apartment complex in Cary. Playing in the pool and hot tub after hours with her female friend and the fruends boyfriend. I get there and she blows me while her friend watches. Her friend says you can only cum when I say do. I say sure. After ten minutes she says cum now! And no lie I unload on this girl's shoulder and thigh. Friend takes off and I'm stuck talking to crazy chick for another two hours. I try to give her some money and she says no.

I leave.

Rest of the week she texts me guilting me on no money. Weird. Also she looks better in pictures. Sucks mean cock though.Very disappointing, with that one a money shot would have worked wonders.

VelvetHeart7
08-29-18, 23:23
Senior members and brothers.

I had a regular for a year. Then, the BP Holocaust occurred. I watched the well go dry for others and now it has gone dry for me. She has decided to exit the business. I saw it coming so I have been perusing ads on SN, AL, AS, them, and STG. Slim pickings once you eliminate skanks, obese chicks (not my thing), and the crazy expensive with their stylized websites. So, I turn to the SD / SB scene where you gentleman are experts. I've read your commentary over the last few months and it has been very informative. I signed up for free access to SB and here is what I found. Please comment or correct these observations.

I'm guessing their are bots or hired "bot people" who will respond to your ad no matter what is in your profile so as to stir interest on your part so that you'll subscribe. I've seen profiles disappear after a few days and one even reappear under a new name. I've seen the classic hot chick listed as new to my area, but if I do a search for her on the site (instead of click the email), she is nowhere to be found. Basically, if she's young, pretty, and shows her face I'm thinking it must be botty. Thank goodness I prefer older women.

So they want an intro subscription of. 6 or a more hefty one for $. 6. It's all based on credits -- reading messages and seeing pics cost you credits. I could message and see pics for about 6-8 women with the lower subscription. The part that bothers me is that the only way I can subscribe is via my own credit card -- prepaids don't work for international sites like this. In any case, would you say, there are enough legitimate women to pay the higher fee or should I pay the lower fee and focus on a few that look the most promising?

VH.

VincentCor74
08-30-18, 08:17
Senior members and brothers.

I had a regular for a year. Then, the BP Holocaust occurred. I watched the well go dry for others and now it has gone dry for me. She has decided to exit the business. I saw it coming so I have been perusing ads on SN, AL, AS, them, and STG. Slim pickings once you eliminate skanks, obese chicks (not my thing), and the crazy expensive with their stylized websites. So, I turn to the SD / SB scene where you gentleman are experts. I've read your commentary over the last few months and it has been very informative. I signed up for free access to SB and here is what I found. Please comment or correct these observations.

I'm guessing their are bots or hired "bot people" who will respond to your ad no matter what is in your profile so as to stir interest on your part so that you'll subscribe. I've seen profiles disappear after a few days and one even reappear under a new name. I've seen the classic hot chick listed as new to my area, but if I do a search for her on the site (instead of click the email), she is nowhere to be found. Basically, if she's young, pretty, and shows her face I'm thinking it must be botty. Thank goodness I prefer older women.

So they want an intro subscription of. 6 or a more hefty one for $. 6. It's all based on credits -- reading messages and seeing pics cost you credits. I could message and see pics for about 6-8 women with the lower subscription. The part that bothers me is that the only way I can subscribe is via my own credit card -- prepaids don't work for international sites like this. In any case, would you say, there are enough legitimate women to pay the higher fee or should I pay the lower fee and focus on a few that look the most promising?

VH.Hey Velvet,

What I would do (and do, myself) is forego the paid subscription, at least in the beginning.

There are bots (maybe 5% of the accounts on SeekingArrangement, would be my guess?) - but plenty of real girls / women on there.

What I've done is just be creative in finding them via other channels (the same way we research BP girls -- right click / google image search; plug their sugar user name into google) and then contact them directly.

Saves you the hassle of money and having to give out personal info (after the Ashley Madison hack / release there was NO WAY I was doing that.) and gives you an, albeit limited, pool of candidates to choose from.

Good luck!

Pubb69
08-31-18, 09:03
Senior members and brothers.

I had a regular for a year. Then, the BP Holocaust occurred. I watched the well go dry for others and now it has gone dry for me. She has decided to exit the business. I saw it coming so I have been perusing ads on SN, AL, AS, them, and STG. Slim pickings once you eliminate skanks, obese chicks (not my thing), and the crazy expensive with their stylized websites. So, I turn to the SD / SB scene where you gentleman are experts. I've read your commentary over the last few months and it has been very informative. I signed up for free access to SB and here is what I found. Please comment or correct these observations.

I'm guessing their are bots or hired "bot people" who will respond to your ad no matter what is in your profile so as to stir interest on your part so that you'll subscribe. I've seen profiles disappear after a few days and one even reappear under a new name. I've seen the classic hot chick listed as new to my area, but if I do a search for her on the site (instead of click the email), she is nowhere to be found. Basically, if she's young, pretty, and shows her face I'm thinking it must be botty. Thank goodness I prefer older women.

So they want an intro subscription of. 6 or a more hefty one for $. 6. It's all based on credits -- reading messages and seeing pics cost you credits. I could message and see pics for about 6-8 women with the lower subscription. The part that bothers me is that the only way I can subscribe is via my own credit card -- prepaids don't work for international sites like this. In any case, would you say, there are enough legitimate women to pay the higher fee or should I pay the lower fee and focus on a few that look the most promising?

VH.SA has gone dry, mostly college girls looking to get money either by sending pics and videos or just outright scamming.

No one should be sending them money over the internet but enough must be doing it because it seems to encourage more to come on the site. Definitely not worth the monthly subscription.

Anon336
08-31-18, 09:48
SA has gone dry, mostly college girls looking to get money either by sending pics and videos or just outright scamming.

No one should be sending them money over the internet but enough must be doing it because it seems to encourage more to come on the site. Definitely not worth the monthly subscription.There are more profiles than ever but the girls are mostly attention seekers or just downright unattractive. The site was much better 2 years ago. That's not to say you can't find someone serious about meeting but the amount of work required to filter out scammers and time wasters almost outweighs the reward these days.

Pubb69
09-03-18, 10:54
There are more profiles than ever but the girls are mostly attention seekers or just downright unattractive. The site was much better 2 years ago. That's not to say you can't find someone serious about meeting but the amount of work required to filter out scammers and time wasters almost outweighs the reward these days.My favorite line on there is " I am not an escort or prostitute".

Sure baby ha ha.

VincentCor74
09-05-18, 08:08
User name: MuteMermaid on SeekingA and WYP.

Avoid.

Met up with her once for a little shopping and fun. Decent looking 20 ish brunette- average face, nice body; kinda stonerish girl.

Thought about seeing her again but there were a few red flags- she mentioned she was crashing with a male friend who also happened to be a mid-level dealer. So, when I politely declined to see her again she decided to try the extortion route. Threatened to put me on blast on social media, track down and contact family members / friends, etc.

Note: she did somehow have my correct real personal info, which is a little frightening; I'm very careful with my real info and can't even be 100% positive how she got it?

I had to drop a couple of names of friends who, luckily, are a high-profile local attorney and another in the the's office and tell her I'd have her charged with extortion if she decided to get cute.

Just a friendly reminder (to myself!) to keep your personal info protected from these chicks and never assume anything.

Oh well, plenty of other hotties out there.

Happy Hunting, why'all.

Pubb69
09-05-18, 15:11
User name: MuteMermaid on SeekingA and WYP.

Avoid.

Met up with her once for a little shopping and fun. Decent looking 20 ish brunette- average face, nice body; kinda stonerish girl.

Thought about seeing her again but there were a few red flags- she mentioned she was crashing with a male friend who also happened to be a mid-level dealer. So, when I politely declined to see her again she decided to try the extortion route. Threatened to put me on blast on social media, track down and contact family members / friends, etc.

Note: she did somehow have my correct real personal info, which is a little frightening; I'm very careful with my real info and can't even be 100% positive how she got it?

I had to drop a couple of names of friends who, luckily, are a high-profile local attorney and another in the the's office and tell her I'd have her charged with extortion if she decided to get cute.

Just a friendly reminder (to myself!) to keep your personal info protected from these chicks and never assume anything.

Oh well, plenty of other hotties out there.

Happy Hunting, why'all.Thanks for that information. I don't know her but there are so many scam artists on that site that need to be called out. Most of those chicks out there have no moral standards and are looking for easy money any way they can get it.

Pubb69
09-05-18, 16:57
Another waste of time. Texted back and fourth for 3 days and she finally agreed to meet, than 30 minutes before told me I am over 35 minutes away and she doesn't travel that far to meet anyone. The day before I gave her my location and she said oh that's not far at all.

Pubb69
09-10-18, 12:31
The often discussed and arrested Alex on the escort site. Her add runs 24/7 on S. A. Even after her recent arrest.

All kinds of red flags going on, including 18 year old setups, be extremely careful on this site.

FarFarAway
09-10-18, 13:25
User name: MuteMermaid on SeekingA and WYP.

Avoid.

Note: she did somehow have my correct real personal info, which is a little frightening; I'm very careful with my real info and can't even be 100% positive how she got it?

Just a friendly reminder (to myself!) to keep your personal info protected from these chicks and never assume anything.

Happy Hunting, why'all.Please go further into this. I have heard of another incident of something like this on another sugar thread. Are you using a VPN or Tor browser for your logins? Is she finding your IP address / MAC address and then tracking you down based on other sites you log into without 'protection'? Have you used a personal credit card at any point for your burner phone, for SA? Some guys who don't have SOs are a little lax, I am paranoid about any trail that leads back to me. I assume if the guvmint really wanted to track me down they could, but until the NSA gets involved in sugaring, I hope I am safe.

VincentCor74
09-11-18, 08:01
Please go further into this. I have heard of another incident of something like this on another sugar thread. Are you using a VPN or Tor browser for your logins? Is she finding your IP address / MAC address and then tracking you down based on other sites you log into without 'protection'? Have you used a personal credit card at any point for your burner phone, for SA? Some guys who don't have SOs are a little lax, I am paranoid about any trail that leads back to me. I assume if the guvmint really wanted to track me down they could, but until the NSA gets involved in sugaring, I hope I am safe.I honestly don't know.

No. I don't go that deep into safe browsing with VPN's / TOR b / c I've never had to.

I don't even use a paid membership so my CC number isn't compromised, in any way.

I use a fake email addy and burner phone that shouldn't be traceable.

Like, I said. Scared the shit out of me, b / c I can't put it together HOW she identified me.

FarFarAway
09-11-18, 15:03
I honestly don't know.

No. I don't go that deep into safe browsing with VPN's / TOR b / c I've never had to.

I don't even use a paid membership so my CC number isn't compromised, in any way.

I use a fake email addy and burner phone that shouldn't be traceable.

Like, I said. Scared the shit out of me, b / c I can't put it together HOW she identified me.I don't know how you could have messaged w / a POT in any way on seeking.com without a paid membership. Are you sure you contacted her from SA? That doesn't have to be how she found out your personal info, of course.

Pubb69
09-11-18, 15:23
I honestly don't know.

No. I don't go that deep into safe browsing with VPN's / TOR b / c I've never had to.

I don't even use a paid membership so my CC number isn't compromised, in any way.

I use a fake email addy and burner phone that shouldn't be traceable.

Like, I said. Scared the shit out of me, b / c I can't put it together HOW she identified me.A lot of those girls are way more sketchy than escorts who just expect an equal exchange. These chicks are out to litteraly screw you for as much as they can get in any way they can.

VincentCor74
09-11-18, 15:42
I don't know how you could have messaged w / a POT in any way on seeking.com without a paid membership. Are you sure you contacted her from SA? That doesn't have to be how she found out your personal info, of course.To find these chicks on Social Media. Many either use the same pics (right click / google image search) or the same or very similar username.

I've never had a paid membership on any of the sites; I just take it "offline" by contacting them via (my fake) social media accounts.

MedJohnson
09-12-18, 08:44
I've found several SB and rub girl's personal info just by listening to the detail in the conversation- one rub girl described an car accident that she witnessed from her house and from that I was able to work backwards and had her and roommate info in about 20 min.

A SB told me about her high school and profession and I was able to find her.

Both tried really hard to hide it, but it doesn't take much to find personal info online.

Probably the best you can do is hope that "mutually assured destruction" is enough of a deterrent. Although we probably have a whole lot more to lose than most of the girls.

Stay safe.

Med.


I don't know how you could have messaged w / a POT in any way on seeking.com without a paid membership. Are you sure you contacted her from SA? That doesn't have to be how she found out your personal info, of course.

Pubb69
09-12-18, 15:05
This one is severely unstable. Agreed on $ and time then today sends an email out of the blue stating never to contact her again.

Saying I disrespected her boundaries and space. I honestly have no clue what this fruitcake is talking about.

VelvetHeart7
09-20-18, 18:06
So my brothers I need your advice. I met a woman on SB and we got around to the question of price. She wants me to tell her. I kept telling her that she should just tell me because she knows what her number is anyway. Besides she is the seller. She just wouldn't budge. Is there some code I'm missing or Uncle LEO reason she is so obstinate?

VincentCor74
09-21-18, 09:09
So my brothers I need your advice. I met a woman on SB and we got around to the question of price. She wants me to tell her. I kept telling her that she should just tell me because she knows what her number is anyway. Besides she is the seller. She just wouldn't budge. Is there some code I'm missing or Uncle LEO reason she is so obstinate?She's just hoping your number is higher than hers.

Tell her you can hash it out over coffee or lunch; that's a good, informal LEO check. LEO isn't going to go through the trouble of setting up a one-off date to catch just one guy.

Pubb69
09-22-18, 17:28
Seems like every time I reject an offer from an escort or an online only hooker they report my account as a violation of policy.

Now think about it, every female on that site is a hooker as they are all offering themselves for money and some almost state it in their greetings while others state online relationships only which is a clear violation of policy. None of my responses to anyone was specific or crude in any way other than suggesting adult fun to some of the ones that I first had a running conversation with.

SneakyMan
10-06-18, 20:43
Beware of this one. Very bad news. Cash and dash. Real nut case and her profile is all BS.

RWarNmsn69
10-06-18, 23:48
Beware of this one. Very bad news. Cash and dash. Real nut case and her profile is all BS.Thank you for the heads up, SneakyMan! I was eyeballing her profile and getting ready to pull the trigger.

Safe mongering and sugaring!

ChasingPuppy
10-07-18, 15:34
Hello,

New poster here. Hoping to get some information on HannaBbyDoll. Has anyone met with her before?

https://www.seeking.com/member/f0d3382d-dd22-4ca0-ab09-85bfce23b064

Donatello
10-07-18, 18:34
Hello,

New poster here. Hoping to get some information on HannaBbyDoll. Has anyone met with her before?

https://www.seeking.com/member/f0d3382d-dd22-4ca0-ab09-85bfce23b064Lots of past demons and associated behaviors. Might be fine now, no recent dealings to know now.

ChasingPuppy
10-08-18, 07:08
Lots of past demons and associated behaviors. Might be fine now, no recent dealings to know now.Thanks for the information! As a newby I'm not completely sure what you mean. But I will do a search. And definitely keep an eye out!

Raltime
10-08-18, 22:16
Thanks for the information! As a newby I'm not completely sure what you mean. But I will do a search. And definitely keep an eye out!I agree with Donatello, lots of past demons, and has been in rehab many times. She has been around here for 4 years since she turned 18. The blond photo is old, when she was 18. Just watch your wallet. She is a black widow, have fun.

ChasingPuppy
10-09-18, 11:55
I agree with Donatello, lots of past demons, and has been in rehab many times. She has been around here for 4 years since she turned 18. The blond photo is old, when she was 18. Just watch your wallet. She is a black widow, have fun.Thanks for the information. I was on the fence about her but now I think I am going to pass.

Ral613
10-09-18, 15:25
I've been lurking and looking on SA. Some limited experience, and wouldn't mind establishing something regular if it really does exist. The Feride C profile seems to be active / online often (I think it the second profile for the same girl). Any info?

VincentCor74
10-10-18, 10:54
I've been lurking and looking on SA. Some limited experience, and wouldn't mind establishing something regular if it really does exist. The Feride C profile seems to be active / online often (I think it the second profile for the same girl). Any info?She's real. As in a real person and does live in Raleigh; I was able to trace her to her social and professional media profiles.

Unfortunately, she didn't like the fact I connected with her IRL and was nice for about 5 minutes of chat before she caught an attitude.

YMMV.

Ntcuonghm1
10-11-18, 10:45
Has any of you met intimately with Suprmodl? I was talking to her last month, but she was very slow in responding. From the text, it seemed she had been doing this for a while. Any tips or info are appreciated.

Pubb69
10-11-18, 11:29
Has any of you met intimately with Suprmodl? I was talking to her last month, but she was very slow in responding. From the text, it seemed she had been doing this for a while. Any tips or info are appreciated.Another game player, requests a gift or cash just to meet.

ChasingPuppy
10-11-18, 12:05
I've been lurking and looking on SA. Some limited experience, and wouldn't mind establishing something regular if it really does exist. The Feride C profile seems to be active / online often (I think it the second profile for the same girl). Any info?We had a conversation a while back and she seemed fairly normal. We never met though. I got the feeling she was active as well, but no escort kind of vibe.

Tomas247
10-13-18, 06:07
She's real. As in a real person and does live in Raleigh; I was able to trace her to her social and professional media profiles.

Unfortunately, she didn't like the fact I connected with her IRL and was nice for about 5 minutes of chat before she caught an attitude.

YMMV.Been talking to her. She was super easy to track down compared to some I've done. Wants to meet for 300. I agreed. Those lips, and and that tight sweet little body. I can't wait. DTF, we already discussed my "ideal arrangement". I frame it that way to the ladies, as the ladies seem to respond better, and what I say is what my ideal arrangement is. If I wanted a hooker, I would just go see one. So something like this.

"What's your ideal arrangement dear?

Mine would be one where we naturally become friends over time. Dates would involves us getting dinner somewhere casual, not crowed. Or going to see a show at the Red Hat or cuddling up to a movie in my bedroom. We'll end our night with a bottle of Sauvignon Blanc, a joint if you'd like, sex, and cuddles. And I won't say no if you decide to spend the night."


Works for me. SA has been good to me lately. :)

I've got some info on several of the Asians online often. PM me and I will warn you privately if interested as these girls were very sweet, but just not cut out for this. I have met with several of them that did not lead to the FC, and it won't with you either. Trust me.

Raltime
10-13-18, 07:02
Nice girl!


I've been lurking and looking on SA. Some limited experience, and wouldn't mind establishing something regular if it really does exist. The Feride C profile seems to be active / online often (I think it the second profile for the same girl). Any info?

ChevyGuy03
10-14-18, 17:19
Would anyone be interested in helping me set up a fantasy scenario with one of my SA girls? Feel free to PM me for more info and details. Looking to do this on Wednesday this week if possible. Around 12 noon. Had one of these almost planned before and the girl ghosted me. This one is very excited about it. Hope to hear from some of you soon!

YayaGogo
10-15-18, 15:24
Thinking of adding this one to my rotation, but before I do so I'd like to know if any seniors have previous good or bad experience with her they can share. Either here or via PM is fine.

https://www.seeking.com/member/766bdf03-574d-4413-b285-132943a3778e

Thanks in advance!

Yaya.

ChevyGuy03
10-17-18, 08:43
Would anyone be interested in helping me set up a fantasy scenario with one of my SA girls? Feel free to PM me for more info and details. Looking to do this on Wednesday this week if possible. Around 12 noon. Had one of these almost planned before and the girl ghosted me. This one is very excited about it. Hope to hear from some of you soon!He guys. We are still on for today. Have 3 total confirmed. Private message me if interested and I'll send out more info. She's excited and ready for a fun day!

ChevyGuy03
10-17-18, 14:28
Would anyone be interested in helping me set up a fantasy scenario with one of my SA girls? Feel free to PM me for more info and details. Looking to do this on Wednesday this week if possible. Around 12 noon. Had one of these almost planned before and the girl ghosted me. This one is very excited about it. Hope to hear from some of you soon!


He guys. We are still on for today. Have 3 total confirmed. Private message me if interested and I'll send out more info. She's excited and ready for a fun day!Big thanks to the guys that showed up today. A great time was had by all. She's already talking about the next one. Haha.

Nyp123
10-18-18, 16:44
Big thanks to the guys that showed up today. A great time was had by all. She's already talking about the next one. Haha.Just recently got back on to this site. Didn't know there was a section for SBs. Only had a few encounters but all good!

Looking forward to see what's next here.

Pubb69
10-19-18, 17:04
Just recently got back on to this site. Didn't know there was a section for SBs. Only had a few encounters but all good!

Looking forward to see what's next here.It really should be more active than it is, even if the ones to avoid were put on here. Truthfully about 90% of those parasites should be avoided.