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Dr.Monger

03-16-03, 04:12

Tonight's brief scouting report. Hampden Lives!

Had a normal night of fun and frivolity. After the fun, I went through Hampden on my way home. Was just going to do a brief run, as I was tired, but saw a suspect standing on the street who seemed to meet my qualifications, so I circled around quickly. She was, of course, gone about a minute later when I drove back. Since I was heading the wrong way, i decided to do another circuit. Saw a suspect walking up the avenue, but since it was not after closing time for the bars in the area, I had to be careful. Looped around but could not get a good look. Did one more circuit and timed it so I got to the light when it was red. She was right at the corner walking. Crossed in front of my car. She was definitely a SW, as she gave me a long stare as she walked in front. Unfortunately, she was not up to my standards, so I ignored her. Decided in for a dime, in for a dollar, so I circled around again, placing myself so I was on the correct side of the street. Well of course with my luck, I saw the brunette with the tined hair on the other side of the street as I went by! It was much later than I had seen her previously. So I turned into a side street, and turned around, and waited. I think she saw me but she kept on walking. So I went up and around and caught her in the middle of the block, on the correct side. At first I thought she waived me off. But I stayed parked and she walked over and got in. She was very conscious (as was I) to make sure that she got in discreetly. (i.e. she waited until there was no traffic going by). Outside the car she was a 7, maybe a 7.5. Inside she was a 6.5, but acceptable. A little older than I had thought, maybe mid to late twenties, but that is a guess (I did not ask). She asked me if I had a spot. I told her I did (the one from the other night, it seems like a good one for nighttime but not daytime fun). As we drove off, the cutie from my initial circuit was back, looking very cute. I would say maybe 18-20. I guess she is next on the list. I had not seen her before tonight though. We parked and I notice that my new friend was not dressed as sexy as the last time I had seen her, when she had a skirt and black hose on. She said she had been coming from some event. She was agreeable to Listerine first, and asked it she could have some after too. She asked for payment up front, as her student loans were due. It was very nice, and she certainly knew what she was doing. Not sure her technique was as good as the girl from the other night, but hey, both were better than quite a few non-SW I have been with (I guess they have a lot of experience.) Dropped her off near where I picked her up and went home.

On a side note, I think I understand why Sgt. Sad on the North Carolina board tried to never pick up the same girl twice (aside from the fact that he pisses them off sometimes, but you gotta read his posts, including some old one from January to get the feel of his ways) The thrill of the first time with a new friend really is nice, but it is like my new Blockette friend, in that my attitude is been there, done that. She is hot (not by block standards but by girl next door standards - she does not look like a dancer at all but with a super hot bod and great young breasts that are firm but full), I am not sure I want to see her anytime soon. Don't get me wrong, I stop in to see her to keep the lines of communication open, but I have been putting off another date with her for a few weeks now. I think I like Hampden though, they seem less cracked out that PP.

Sorry for the stream of consciousness post, but it is late. Besides, I seem to be the most prolific in reporting here recently on the SW scene.

Dr. Monger

Globetrotter

03-16-03, 18:45

Visited Baltimore yesterday (Sat around 11:00 AM) and, as usual, started my tour by going to Brooklyn. I must say that Brooklyn is quickly becoming my favorite hunting ground. I always seem to get lucky there and the girls I run into always seem to be younger and less beat up looking than the typical PP crackheads. I scored within 5 minutes of getting there with someone I had been with a few months back. I'd rate her a 6 though she has a 9 butt. Went to a "friend's" house which set me back 10 bucks, did the deed then drove her to a store to get some change. While I was driving (on Fairhaven) I noticed another girl that might be SW but not sure. She was really good looking by SW standards (about a 9) and I wanted to meet her but couldn't because I still had the other one in my car. Anyway, after about 5 minutes, I completed the financial transaction, dropped off my companion and went looking for the 9 I saw earlier. Made a few passes up and down Fairhaven and the neighboring streets with no luck when all of a sudden, she appears coming out of a side street. We made I contact, she got into the car and off we went. She took me to what she described as her own home and it was vvery clean and well furnished, not at ll like the typical crack houses most girls seem to use. Best part was she didn't even ask for the usual $10 for the room.

She turned out to be OK but a little difficult to deal with as she was obviosuly very impressed with herself and her looks as compared to other street girls. That, of course, translated into a price that was higher than the going rate but she was good looking enough that I didn't make a fuss. It took $50 to get her to start with BBBJ, then get undressed, then DATY then finishing with FS. She really got into the DATY and actually came a couple of times. Problem was that she refused to go back to BBBJ after I satisfied her. So, we went on to do some missionary work until the job was done.

Like the last time I went to Brookly two weeks ago, the area was very active but you have to look around. I usually get lucky on Fairhaven. What I do is just drive up Fairhaven from Patapsco and look at all the side streets. Do that a few times and you will almost always come up sith something. Patapsco is also good, along with all of the side streets coming off of it. One thing odd about yesterday was the lack of LE. I saw one LE car the wholle 2 hours I was in the area.

After Brooklyn, I headed up to Washington Blvd. and Wilkesn but it was totally dead. Dedided to try PP and Conkling. Saw a good prospect on Conkling, blonde and she was with another not so hot looking girl. Couldn't pick her (tehm) up though because of LE presence. Moved on back to PP and picked up a dark haired, good natured late 20's girl I had mever seen before She had about a 7 face so went for it and again went to another house. Paid the $10 and got an excellent BBBJ for the usual Jackson. Not a bad day. The first 3 1/2 hours resulted in three successful encounters. with only about 2 hours left to play, I headed for the Block. Found a real cutie in the Jewel Box and made plans to meet her outside some time in the future but didn't do anything at the bar.

Not a bad day at all. Total investment including 2 bar girl drinks and my own drinks at about 5 Block bars was $160.00. Can't beat that!

The New Guy

03-16-03, 22:46

Can anyone give me directions to Hampden coming from the block. One other question, are there usually any SW's out at PP and hampden between 1-4 in the afternoon weekdays and weekends??? Thanks

The New Guy

03-16-03, 22:48

Forgot to ask where Brooklyn is to coming from the block

Ol Seadog

03-18-03, 10:40

Originally posted by thenewguy
Can anyone give me directions to Hampden coming from the block. One other question, are there usually any SW's out at PP and hampden between 1-4 in the afternoon weekdays and weekends??? Thanks It has been my experience that the "girls" seem to cool it during the times you mentioned becuase of the LE presents in the area as school is letting out. Try earlier or later for better results.

Ol Seadog

03-18-03, 10:47

Was going to see a "friend" Sunday evening and notice that LE was setting up with a van and several unmarked cars near some garages on Orleans near the Taco Bell to process arrests in a sting/sweep operation. It was pretty obvious what they where doing...glad I going directly to her house. Told her about it and she said things are so "hot" that she doesn't even go out any more, just seeing regulars.

Anyway, heads up guys. AS for me, I think I'll start hunting in Brooklyn or Papatsco till things cool down some.

XTorchX

03-18-03, 17:50

Damn! Damn!.. Man I went out for my first hunt for sw's on sunday.. which later on I learnt was one of the worst nights since there were many stings going on lol whew talk about luck..
It was about 3 am.. monday morning.. went with a friend since it was first time.. didnt want to be alone.
Cruised around PP from what I heard from the guys here.. didnt have any luck what so ever. Didn't see a single soul.. Moved on to wilkens.. saw a couple girls.. about a 6. Tried to flag them.. but they kept going. Then came across another couple.. from a distance I could see they were about a 6 but from up close more like a 2 ughh.. I told my friend no.. but he was horny and said he just wannted a bbbj.. didnt care bout looks.. lol

Alright have it your way.. we stop.. they talk.. take us back to their place. One's giving my friend bbbj in room whilst im in the kitchen the other one's hittin on crack.. Then it's my turn.. I go in.. and this lady about 40.. is about to get on to work.. then she takes off her dentures!!!.. I was like AHHHHH NOOO HELL NOO..unfortunately it was too late and she commenced.. I was just too shocked to say anything and i finished off like in 3 minutes ewwwww.. she swallowed everything. UGH UGH.. I was so sick that I left right away.. cost me 20 bux.. not worth it at all she was UGH UGH nasty and no tteeeeeeth. I swear on my way home I was wanting to throw up a good 3 times. Man what a bad first experience.

Now I know why I go to AMP's. It's well worth the xtra $$$

Globetrotter

03-19-03, 01:34

Torch,

Don't let your bad experience deter you from trying again. You will never get the same kind of service from AMP's (BBBJTC, etc.) that you can easily get from SW's and SW's will give you that service for a fraction of the price of AMP's.

There are a lot of gems to be found in SW's. It just takes a little patience and time. Don't settle for a skank like you did because you never really should have to stoop to those depths. Wait and be selective. I have not personally been hunting in Balto at 3:00 AM in a very long time but my personal experience has been that the hours of 7:00 PM to Midnight has always been the prime time to look. I think 3:00 AM might have been a bit too late and that's why you came up empty. Try Brooklyn around the time frame I suggested. The few times I was able to get there at those times, there were some fine looking (and young) SW's about.

Good luck!

Globetrotter

03-19-03, 01:55

The New Guy,

To get to Brooklyn from the Block, try this route. It's probably not the quickest but it will take you through the Washington Blvd. hunting grounds on the way and that will provide you with an extra opportunity for finding companionship. If you don't stop in the Washington Blvd. area, the trip should take about 1/2 hour.

Starting from Baltimore St. on the Block, turn left and go one block to Fayette. Turn left on Fayette and go to Martin Luther King then turn left again and proceed to Washington Blvd. Make a right on Washington Blvd. and when you get to S. Carey St. drive around those blocks a few times to spot any potential action. If the Washington Blvd. area is dead, continue down Washington Blvd. to Caton Avenue and make a left. Continue on Caton and it becomes Patapsco Ave. When you cross Potee St. on Patapsco, you are entering Brooklyn and will be in the zone so start looking as you drive down Patapsco, especially after you pass the Wendy's on the right although you can sometimes find action before that. You can continue down Patapsco until you get to Fairhaven and turn right. Drive down Fairhaven about 1/4 mi. and turn back if you don't see anything. As you are driving both down Fairhaven and Patapsco, be sure to look down the side streets. If you see a girl walking down those streets, drive there and there is a better than even chance she will be a working girl. The thing about the Brooklyn area is that it is a little more widespread as far as the action is concerned and you rarely see SW's in clusters. They are more spread out and it might take a few tours of the main and side streets to spot them but they are there - just be alert.

Prototype

03-19-03, 08:21

Maybe a strange question, but what exactly would happen if you were caught up in an AMP while it's being closed down. I read on the PA boards that 3 places were closed down back in Feb. Tokyo wasn't one of them but I'd be cautious about going there right now. Is it jail time...just a hassle...how bad does it get?

HaywoodJablomey

03-19-03, 20:10

If you are at an AMP when it is raided, you will likely be charged. Unless an officer actually catches you in a sex act, you won't get convicted, but they will generally charge everyone and make you go to court. DAs know the damage they inflict on the trade is in charging the Johns and embarassing them; convictions are really only important for the providers.

An exception might be if you are from out-of-town, and you can convince the cops / DA that you really were there just for the massage (i.e. you thought they were a duly licensed therapy center, you have a medical condition and massage therapy is approved by your insurance, omigawd i had no idea people were having sex there, blah blah blah).

Happy Hunting!

Paland

03-20-03, 22:59

Tuesday I was on my way through B'more to central Virginia and gave myself a little extra time to search for some sidewalk jewels. Started around PP didn't see much so on to Conklin. Numbers of sw inproved but quality fell. Back to PP, hung out around NW corner for 10 minutes and miss orange shirt popped up. cruised by her for a look. Not bad, maybe a 4 or 5, good enough for Willard. When I made a loop back around she was gone. Back to Conklin and picked up wire hair sw. Looked 4 on the street, young (which is good) and eager. When she got in the car and started talking and I started looking closer it came time to kick her out. Gave her 2 bux, she was happy.

Back to PP, tooled around some side streets for 5 minutes and back on to Baltimore street. Saw miss bright yellow jacket. Maybe a 6+. Made the required pass looking for an acknowledgment, nothing, and she saw me. So I pull aroung going same direction but on the other side of the street then stop. Wait for her, down window and talk to her. She gets in and a way we go. End up in a church parking lot east of the park. Very nice bbbtc. Small tits, petite body, blonde, 25 and spoke well. Said she prefers regulars and I say ok, she has a place for fs next time. She gave me phone # and address, her name she gave was Paula. (I checked both of these out today when in B'more.....both were bogus. Why did she bother and write these out so careful when they are bogus) It's not like she had to give them to me, I wasn't pushing for them. This has happened before. If the dump ass bitches don't want their number/addresses then don't give them. I give a crap. The next time, I am going to check it out right away.

Anyway back to Tuesday. I drop her off over by Conklin and I go back west on Baltimore when I see this young hottie on nw corner of PP. She is better than miss yellow jacket but being an old man I pass her by......I just got drained and will need another half hour which I don't have. But I did cruise down Wilkins just to check things on my way out of town. I must have seen 5 to 6 sw above a 5 (any many below a 5) and most all made some sort of gesture to confirm occupation. This is still mid afternoon Tuesday.

On my way back home Wednesday night (9 PM) I went through Baltimore rather than around. Cruised Washington first, 1 good one and 3 hags. Over to Wilkins, 3 good, 1 very good and 6 hags. Not sure why but I took the very good one. Maybe 20, 5 ft, 100#, b cup, short brown hair. Not as experienced as miss yellow jacket but very nice indeed. $20 with a 5er tip.

I am looking forward to checking out Brooklyn soon too. Appreciate all the posters sharing the info.

Green Machine

03-21-03, 02:52

Paland-
Your experiences remind me of recent experiences. Why is it that girls give you a number and name that is bogus? Anyone have any insight? It certainly would be better for them to give a real number - much less to worry about on the repeat business.

Oh well..

sirwilson

03-22-03, 00:53

Been reading this forum, off and on, for a while now... and I love it! A few months ago there was a long disucssion about STDs. Just wanted to let you know that I contracted genitle herpes while getting FS with a condom! The herpes started right above my penis where the condom doesn't cover. Just a word to the wise... I don't do FS anymore.

I've also been ripped off more than once by SWs. The worst was when I stuck my wallet in the lower pocket of my car door. The girl was doing BJ for a little while.. then jumped out. When I got home I noticed my wallet was empty. She took like $60 cash out of it. Now I always put the cash for the SW in my breast pocket and secure my wallet in my back pocket. If I go inside, I leave my wallet in the car. I haven't been ripped off in a long time. A girl can always jump out without finishing. Not much you can do about that (usually only lose like $20).

SirWilson

Ol Seadog

03-22-03, 10:17

Had some time before a business meeting on the west side and took a ride along Caton Ave on Friday 3/21 about 1130. Several SW's out and about . They all made eye contact but I really have to say that these "ladies" looked really strung out. Guess that time of day is when they come out, get a few $ and go get well as they say. There was one exception though.....about 5'5'', 110lb, light brown hair in a pony tail, aprox 20 y/o looked to be about a 5 or 6. I didn't have time so just made the turn and headed to my meeting but I definitly will check back in the area soon as PP is getting alot of attention lately from LE as most of you aready know.

Good hunting.....

XTorchX

03-23-03, 05:04

Man, saturday night and went out with a friend to go and check out the brooklyn area per globetrotter's directions. Went out about 9 and cruised around a little here n there. Saw a line up of girls working. Checked out a couple. Not really good mostly 3's and 4's. Then came across 2 girls.. one with dark hair.. taller one.. and the other who went by the name shorty.. had blonde hair. Drove around hanover and patapsco.. picked em up. Got in the car with us. Started talking obscurely about this n that. Then she claimed she had worked on the block this last summer. Said she didnt like it because the men tried to touch her when they weren't supposed to. DING DING DING! Any girl who works on the block knows that touching is only given by permission and intrigument. THought to myself hmm.. suspicious of her to act so dumb.

So we go on and they claim they're out for some fun.. then my friend asked if she could let us see her stripping act. She said it would cost us. I didnt say anything just let it slide by. Then I ask.. Are you a police officer? She said no.. whilst the other one stayed silent. They asked if we were and we replied the negative. Then they told us to go by a bar by their place and to get some brewskies whilst her friend and her went to a friends house next door to use the bathroom. As we go to the bar to get the stuff.. come out.. and they're not there.. we wait like 15 minutes and they're gone.

Guys be careful of them because I suspected they might have been LE. As we were driving around I noticed a police cruiser in the rear pretty much the whole time.. but from a distance. Being an ex taxi driver I can tell cars from their headlights very well..

One's name is shorty the other calls herself paris or something there. If you see them.. don't pick them up.. they'll usually be hanging out by payphones on potapsco. They're about 20- 23 of age.

Anyways so now we were mad like damn damn.. so we were just about to head out home when outta no where we spot this nice girl about a 7. Blonde and blue eyes.. right when you turn on washington from potapsco. Pick her up.. talked.. first we agreed she would call her friend and we'd get a motel for the 4 of us.. then her friend said she couldnt' so we decided to go for it in the car. each take his turn while the other goes outside haha.. it was wild man.. and damn she knew how to lick a lolipop very well. Nice and clean.. very good. In the end she gave me her number. And just as I got home about an hour ago she gave me a call and said her friend was down to go out with me and my friend anytime we want in the future. Describing her friend as very beautiful. This girl by the way was in her mid 20's.

Damn and it only cost a jefferson. sonofabich.. had I only known this shii earlier lol I never would have claimed amps are better. I from this day forward declare retirement from AMP's for life.

THANKS GLOBETROTTER DUDE!!!

Globetrotter

03-24-03, 02:02

XTorchX

Glad you had a good time and were able to salvage the evening after your unfortunate incident with those other two. If you would like to share the contact info and name of your new friend, I'd be much obliged. You can backchannel me at globetrotter664@hotmail.com if you're of a mind to do so.

I take it from the sound of your post that you are something of a novice at the SW game. I would suggest you read through the posts on this board and heed the advice of some of us who have been doing this for a while otherwise you're liable to find yourself in some real deep shit one of these days. Some important quick advice - NEVER talk about anything to do with money in exchange for services with a suspected SW until she gets IN your car. Most LE won't ever get in your car so if you at least get to that point you're probably OK (but not 100%). Once the SW gets in your car, ask her to prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that she's not a cop. At that point, any true SW will know exactly what to do. They will usually pull up their top and let you play with their tits or show you further down and let you touch that as well. Some will reach over and just grab you between your legs and give you a sample of what's to come. Whatever they do, if they do anything, it's almost certain she's not LE. But to be sure, I still don't talk about money. I always let the girls do all the talking and if I get uncomfortable because they start to press me for a financial commitment, I just politely let them out and tell them there's been a misunderstanding. Don't take chances man, it's not worth the hassle if you get busted. When the SW gets in to my car, I simply say how are you doing? and where do you want to go? I let her take it from there and they always do.

Have fun out there but be careful!

Globetrotter

03-24-03, 02:08

What's happened to the Trashman? Our most prolific poster hasn't been heard from in nearly two weeks. If you're reading this Trashman, let us know you're OK. We need your guidance and wisdom. Be well!

TrashMan

03-24-03, 03:16

I didn't know you cared, master Trotter. The Trashman is indeed alive and well and has been kinda busy both with work and pussy.
Since nobody who reads this wants to hear about work, I will provide a pussy report.

The old lady went out of town recently unexpectedly so all of a sudden I had time on my hands and didn't intend to fill those hands with my dick!

Let's see now, where to begin? About two weeks ago I did a threeway with two young girls about 21, one with big tits 38DD - 24 - 34 body and a prety face. Latino. Newly pierced pussy. I had called her griend looking for recommendations for a gangbang I was planning and she thought I would like Angela. I called Angela to arrange for a preview and she suggested I see her and her brunette friend. At 300, I couldn't resist. Both girls great bodies, but tried to pull the CBJ routine on me. Naturally I made it clear that wasn't happening so they gave in and both sucked nicely together. Angela couldn't handle dick so I turned to the brunette and she was able to take it all but did complain little. After sucking and fucking for an hout I finally came on them and as I was dressing I gave them some friendly advise, STOP SNIVELING and told Angela she was not what we're looking for to gangbang and we wouldn't be calling her. They were such amatuer wimps. Fun to fuck mind you.
Last week I cruised up to Baltimore, hit the Block but didn't see what I wanted there and the atmosphere wasn't doing it for me so I took a drive to PP, expecting several hours of fruitless cruising. Made one pass down E Baltimore and when I was a block from Conkling, I saw a cute brunette, 18 year old and pulled over and she jumped in. We made a few turns and parked and I looked over my prize. Took off her coat revealing nice firm tits and a great little tight body. Cute face, long wavy hair. Great friendly attitude and clean, not an obvious druggie at all. I pull out my cock and she sinks down on it right to the hilt and sucks just so fine until I come in her mouth, she swallows and smiles. meanwhile I was fingering her pussy and asshole while she's sucking. Great Body. Goes by Megan and of course, no phone.
20 bucks! Great bargain. Total time to find her under 5 minutes!
Couple of nights later, I decide to see if I can find her and take her to a hotel and fuck her, but she's nowhere to be seen. Cruise
around a while before spotting a blonde who looks good. She's probably 25, forget her name. She hops in and right away is
doing the feel me feel you cop detector game. She pulls up her sweater revealing a great set of stick out straight big round titties for me to feel so I am feeling for all I am worth. She doesn't stop there though and un buttons and unzips her jeans and pulls them down and takes my hand and pulls it down to her shaved pussy so now I am fingering her and she's got her sweater way up and tits out, pants down and pussy out and squirming all around while I am driving! I pull over and continue fingering her pussy and feeling her tits. She wants to fuck I think, duhhhh!
I ask if she wants to go in someplace and suggest a hotel, but she wants to fuck in the car. No, says I so we discuss it and finally she tells me she has a place we can go that she just moved out of but can get in. I quiz her to determine that nobody else is there and then decide that I will violate my rule and go. We drive two blocks, park and walk to a street level apartment and go in. Now it's dark as shit inside and I am on real high alert, but no bad vibes and things seem cool. Meanwhile she's now stripped naked and is on her knees with my dick in her mouth. I continue to stand getting sucked while making sure it's still cool but ready to haul ass. She says fuck me fuck me. so I decide I damn sure will and pull off the pants and work her over a bit on the rug floor making her suck more complete with some great gagging and she says 150 bucks. Yeah, right. Tell you what honey, I will give you 50 take it or I leave. Naturally she takes it so I spread her and fuck her bareback before she can do anything about it. She's panting and begging me not to cum in her at the very same time I am dumping a major load in her. She was a little annoyed at that. I get up and start pulling clothes on fast and she's trying to keep up so she doesn't get left behind and before I can get out the door and dump her, she's ready to go. Shit, I was too slow. Oh, well she tags along to the car and asks for a ride down to the gas station so she can get a soda and then would I take her to her new place a ways away? Sure honey. Before we go, I wipe down the equipment with antiseptic wipes. I pull into the gas station and there's a line of like 6 peoplee soas she gets out, she says, you'll wait right? O ya yoo betcha honey! Door closes and I'm gone! She did have a really great body as in close to Playboy quality, but I was tired as hell and wanted outa there.
Final story, Earlier I mentioned a planned gangbang. Well a friend of mine and I had been looking for the perfect candidate for a while and we found her. We wanted a role play scene of a high school girl **** that was caught with two men in a hotel...and so forth. She was great showed up right on time, dressed perfect and stayed in character from the minute she arrived. What a fucking turn on. WE gave her a bunch of drinks and then started to strip her, feeeling ehr up as we went, coaching her clothes off bit by bit. Put her up on the dining room table and I licked her from clit to asshole and fingered the holes while my buddy stood on the table and face fucked her. Finally I picked her up and carried her to the bedroom with her arms wrapped around my neck and legs around my waist, laid her down and proceeded to fuck her. My buddy and I changed off frequently, fucked her with a big dildo, and then I fucked her asshole and ten my buddy did. I put her on top of me and she rode wild like a wild thing until I pulled her down to me and eld her while my buddy stuck it back up her ass and we double penetrated her real good. We came in her, on her, all over her and she was great. There are a few details that she asked me not to discuss so I won't especially since she wants to see me again and I want to see her as well so I don't want to fuck up a really good thing.
So I have been real busy and have been totally enjoying myself.
Oh, yeah, last night I wanted a quiet time and a massage so I hit CPHC my favorite and got Sophie who I have seen before. Big tits little body. Nice shower and massage and then a great rim job that brought me up to my knees to give her better asshole access and she's stroking my cock and balls at the same time. I turn around and sit down and reach under her and finger her and play with her clit. She squirms around until she can reach my dick with her mouth and works it bareback for a while, then I laid back and she spins into a 69 and we go at it for awhile. She covers me up and reverse cowgirls me for a while, then side saddled me and finally straight cowgirl until I push her off and tell her to lay down. Well she does, but on her stomach. Not knees for doggie but stomach. OK, fine and I just slid in and straddled her legs and laid down on her and pushed her up until her head was off the edge and wrapped one arm around her neck ( not choking her just supporting her head really ) and the other I slid under her belly and then fucked the shit out of until she was sweating and screaming loud enough for mommasan to come in. That was a first. Mammasan watched for a few minutes, determines that it's all fun and games and smiles and says have fun to me and closes the door.
It was great!

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Dr.Monger

03-24-03, 23:48

Great post Trashman. I had read about the threesome on the DC board. Those latin chicks sound like fun, as does the gangbang girl! The bareback SW however is another story, make sure you don't give anything to your wife!

As for me, I did a Hampden drive over the weekend. It really has become my favorite spot, now that I now a little more what exactly to look for. Unlike Trashman's PP finds however, the women I find there usually seem to have very small or almost no chests, but that is generally ok, as I like thin girls anyway. Got down to Hampden, hoping to see one of my prior school chums, and on my first pass saw a young thing walking along, not sure if she was working, but she turned to meet my gaze as I passed. Managed to swing around and come up a side street, with great timing. As I got to the corner she was just getting there. She got in and away we went. Went to my usual spot. She seemed unhappy, and gave me a sob story about some people she knew having a bad time. After we parked she just sat there and said nothing. I asked if she was ok. She said yes but still looked unhappy. By the way, she was 6.5 out of the car, maybe a 6 in. I would probably have booted her at that point, but I was horny and there had not been much else out, and I had been daydreaming about a warm mouth all day. She says she is 22 and will be 23 soon. Not sure I believe that, she seemed more like 19, but I am an old fart so I could be wrong as they mostly look young to me. Small breasts, but more than either of the other two from Hampden. Conversation progressed from there and we talked about my dreams, and she said no problem. She still seemed unhappy, and I asked her if she wanted to just go back. She said no she was fine. She had no hesitation about the mouthwash, and really swished it around for a good thirty seconds, including gargling in the back of her throat. I asked how much her tuition was in school and was satisfied with her answer. She went to work. Not much skill, but I guess she is only a freshman so her skills are not up with the upperclassmen. All in all an okay experience. Not sure I would take her to the prom again, but who knows for sure.

Dr. Monger

XTorchX

03-25-03, 13:35

I don't know about you trashman but personally man,, the only time i'd do a 3some would be with me and 2 girls. I'd never take my shii off in front of other guys man. Thats one step closer to being a homo I think. The hell with that. I just hope your friend wasn't getting a hard on by lookin at you rather than at the girl hahaha

Ebdawgg

03-25-03, 14:57

Originally posted by XTorchX
I don't know about you trashman but personally man,, the only time i'd do a 3some would be with me and 2 girls. I'd never take my shii off in front of other guys man. Thats one step closer to being a homo I think. The hell with that. I just hope your friend wasn't getting a hard on by lookin at you rather than at the girl hahaha

Ya know, I just have this strange feeling that the trashman is 100% straight. He just has an open mind inside of that kinky ol' head of his. I think a lot of guys around here start to think "hmmm... if trasman is doin' it than I might want to try too..." Go trashman - do it however you want - just tell us about it when you get home.

Oh and by the way - how do the trashman the greenmachine score all those rimjobs? What's your secret guys?

Happy springtime hunting

TrashMan

03-25-03, 20:58

Ah, Torch...to be young and dumb again! How I miss those days.
Torch my boy, your comments reveal one of several things about you.
1) You are young, or
2) You are inexperienced, or
3) You are insecure with your own sexualty and may in fact be harboring deeply rooted hidden latent repressed homosexual feeling of lust for your gym teacher!

Or all of the above!

Dude, let me ask you a question. Do you ever watch porno movies and enjoy them? Of course you do. And how many pornos feature a segment where two or three or even more guys are fucking one little cooze out of her mind? Most or many anyway.
Do you enjoy those scenes? Do the guys seem like raving queers? The answer is probably you enjoy and no they are not homosexual or at least are not exhibiting overt homosexual contact or actvity. I just happen to be a stage in my life where I prefer to be part of the scenes instead of simply watching them.
Trust me, if you are but half the perverted, sick, deviant monster
that most of the better members of this forum are, then you'll get there too! Scarey thought huh?Why, that's the whole reason I come here to learn new nasty things and spread the gospel of fucking.
Let me also let you in on a little secret...the girls absolutely love it!Many "seasoned providers" have tried it at some point and most of those crave it again, provided the men doing it aren't assholes and of course that's the problem with finding girls that will try it even though they are really turned on by the thought of it and want to do it, they are afraid that the guys will be assholes and try to hurt them so for safety reasons very few providers will do it unless they know and trust at least one of the men. All girls I fuck fall into that last category. Note I ddn't say think I am a great stud, they just know and trust me that I won't allow anything bad to happen to them. In fact, under those circumstances, they really relax and are much more sexually adventerous and wild than usual and hence I get some really wild, totally turned on little hotties doing something that's naughty even for them and they love it! But, hey, what the fuck do I know, right? Hell, I forgot, I must be a fag for desiring to gangfuck young girls in their hot little pussies and assholes!

The secret to getting rimmed well is one part clean asshole with no bleeding hemhoroids hanging out, one part letting the chick know or better yet showing her how much you like to do it to her
sweet pink puckered little asshole, and one part luck.

Dr.Monger

03-26-03, 00:54

The Heat is ON!

Decided to treat myself to some mid-week action after a rough two days and went to my new favorite stomping grounds, Hampden. Unfortunately, LE was everywhere! They were writing traffic tickets all over the place. On my drive I saw one of my old school chums. LE was close and did not bother. Decided to hang out and see what happened, so I waited a little, and came back. More LE. This time parked directly in front of a favorite hangout, out of the car, and they had run off (did not see anyone arrested) all the folks who usually hang there. Saw another school buddy, but there was no way I was going to stop.

Headed down to PP, and saw a few SW, but nothing I would stop for. The few that were there got picked up quickly anyway. After killing a little time there, I headed home, with hopes that I might find things quieter in Hampden on the way home. No such luck. There were basically no SW out, although it was a peak Hampden time. Did see one suspect, but she did not meet my criteria. Went home very disappointed.

Be careful out there. I may stop posting my advenutres so much. I have no doubt LE monitors this board, and I don't want to contribute to the LE presence. Shouldn't they be out looking for terrorists?

Dr. Monger

Louie_DePalma

03-26-03, 01:14

Hey Trashman,
You were relentless on Torch BUT 100% on the money! While I think that Torch may young and inexperience, his sexuality is own problem. I will go on the record to say that I think I would refrain to having sex with any women, or even myself for that matter, with Torch anywhere nearby. Homophobs tend to lash out because of an unnatural fear of their own latent homosexual tendencies.

Trashman I total agree with you on several points:
1. Be part of scene and not just a spectator
2. Experience girls love to be with a regular or safe hobbiest (Better then those scary dudes...say like Torch)
3. Familiarity can breed some wild times!
4. Gangbangs can be fun with the right people.
5. I will go there...a rim job can be a pleasant suprise...so don't make it unpleasant for her (or in Torch's case possibly...HIM)

I do disaggree with you on one point Torch...when did being perverted, sick, deviant monster become a bad thing. I like to think of myself as a lovable miscreant, thank you very much.

And Torch my advice to you:
1. Be careful out there (LE is everywhere)
2. Grow old and prosper
3. Lighten up on your narrow minded sexual attitude.
4. If you think you may be gay...JUST DO IT <SWOOSH>

Globetrotter

03-26-03, 01:36

With all due respect to Trashman, I have to say that I understand and agree with Torch to a large extent. I have had occasion to participate in parties that turned into all-out gangbangs and I have also done threesomes (two ladies and yours truly), foursomes (three ladies) and even twice, a fivesome (in Thailand). I gotta tell you, the parties that involved only women and myself were MUCH more of a turn on and enjoyable and I surely don't consider myself to be a latent homosexual. Shit, just the very thought of it makes me ill. Simply put, like most guys on this board, I just love pussy and just can't ever get enough of it and when I am participating in the hobby, I want the poontang all for myself - that's all there is to it.

Green Machine

03-26-03, 02:04

Torch-
You were starting to get on your way to being a recognized contributor to this board with the other post about your adventures. Now you blew it (or should I say you are afraid of Blowing it).

Young and inexperienced? Perhaps.

Homophobic with latent homosexual desires? Almost positively.

Get it out of your system. Go to another city, suck some dick and let yourself go. No one has to know and you can get it out of your system.

I will say that performing in a room full of your friends with a girl can be a anxious experience. Not too long ago, I went to a bachelor party and things got a bit wild. The girl pulled off my pants and started straddling me. I didn't care that I was going to fuck this girl in front of my friends but the pressure of performing certainly made it hard to keep the erection!

I must say, when I watch porn today I am impressed with the mental stamina these guys have performing in a room full of people.

flashman5018

03-26-03, 12:10

Just to get away from the preaching, here is a quick update on the Caton, Wilkens Carey Triangle. I have seen a marked increase in the number of providers since the weather changed. I had a nice time this morning before work. Saw 5-6 workers along my route. Chose a nice young thing along Wilkens by Ramsey. We found a place to park off the beaten path and with no one nearby. She allowed a few minutes of playing before the job was begun. Of course, I added a little extra to the usual fee.She was a good provider and added the few extra's that I like before the BBBJTC. She is a definate redo but forgot her name already. I have seen her before and will no doubt see her again. Do you guys remember names of providers, I am lousy remembering names, so unless we do the deed a few times, I acn never remember names, so I just apply a nickname to the provider. Anyway hunting is good now that the weather is nicer and not freezing. Maybe Brooklyn for lunch hour and two in one day who knows.

TrashMan

03-27-03, 20:02

Guys, guys, guys! Enough whupping up on poor little Torchie.

My intent was not to beat the crap out him, but merely to spank him a bit. Oppth, there I go again being a homothexual!

No, the point of my words was not to kick his ass, but to point out that there is no right or wrong way to get your sexual gratification an we should have respect for all forms unless they really do injure someone or are forced upon someone who totally is not interested in a particular activity.
I enjoy fucking several girls and just me as one one poster here mentioned and I enjoy fucking one girl with some buddies. If you are in that situation and you are placed in a position of feeling uncomfortable about performing, then it's not something you probaby enjoy and shouldn't do it. Never fuck for someone else, fuck for yourself and as we all know here, if it doesn't feel right, just don't do it, but don't put down someone else for whom it does feel right and they enjoy it, that's not your job on this here planet. As I said, I don't happen to enjoy all sexual things such as peeing on or being peed on, but by the same token I respect the right of others to enjoy it and participate in it as long as they don't pee on me.
By the way Flash Gordon, this isn't preaching, it's sexual philosphy. Frankly, reading post after post of the various streets guys drove down at particular times for hours on end and they're all the same streets basically to be a bit boring after a while, just as I'm sure some people find my long rambling pompous dissertations which again goes to my point. We need variety mentally, physically, and sexually in order to not go nuts. That's why I like to experiment.

Cloud William

03-27-03, 20:50

[QUOTE]Originally posted by TrashMan
[i]Guys, guys, guys! Enough whupping up on poor little Torchie.

I enjoy fucking several girls and just me as one one poster here mentioned and I enjoy fucking one girl with some buddies. If you are in that situation and you are placed in a position of feeling uncomfortable about performing, then it's not something you probaby enjoy and shouldn't do it.

I gota agree with Trashman, I thinks its a hoot to do a girl or several girls with a buddy. Last summer I got up with a bud and we took his boat to a nearby marina/bar. We weren't looking but we came across two women who talked us into taking them for a boat ride.
Now they weren't the greatest looking or the youngest but they certainly knew how to satisfy their desires. After anchoring we retired to the cabin and went at it. We did them singly, together, and watched as they did each other, etc, etc.
At first I was a little nervous but once one of the girls got the captain halfway down the hatch I got over my shyness.
I suspect part of the homophobic thing has to do with being in school gym class and showering with a bunch of guys. I was always deathly afraid of getting a woody and becoming the laughing stock of the school.
Where I work I take a shower after the shift and I still have to watch what I'm thinking about. A bunch of naked steel workers are not the kind of people you go sporting wood around.

Anybody else wants to find a/some women and go at it let me know.

Cloud

Paland

03-28-03, 00:02

Great board and great mongers here. I have been a tad busy to participate lately but do read this thread every several days or so (just to keep my sanity). Scorching the Torch was a good exercise, maybe gets us thinking some with the big head for a change but glad the board has moved on.

Certainly, we are all very different in most ways but one.

Now go out there and fuck one for the gipper!

Hey Cloud, in a month or so maybe we could share a **** or two.
My work should slow down by then.

Bradman

03-28-03, 16:52

Hey Guys,

I did a real quick recon around noon today. Went down Wilkens, Caton and Washington Aves. Saw a couple of young 5's, not sure if they were working or hanging out. Saw a REAL nasty 2. Not much out. I'm sure that's because it was really starting to rain.

Cloud, I'll help you double-team a chick. That's something I've been wanting to try.

Ol Seadog

03-29-03, 10:00

Hello fellow enthusiests, been working some long hours and really haven't had the time to devote to our favorite hobby the last several days. I did manage to leave early for work the other night [11/7 shift] and made a short scouting trip to the Patapsco Washington area and was pleasantly surprised to see several young ladies of the evening plying their trade. Most seemed to be 5-6 but there was one 8 IMHO. Only saw one LE , marked, in the area. It was a fairly pleasant night temp wise so the goodies where on display so to speak. Didn't have time to indulge so went to work frustrated but have every intention of sampling the wares next weekend as I am off.

I prefer a motel but didn't notice any in the area. Would appreciate recommendations.

Will report.......Have fun and be careful.

Apowers350

03-29-03, 17:37

Hello,

Long time massage receiver, new to the SW scene. Took my first drive over to Brooklyn. I guess noon time was too soon. None to be seen. Keep posting.. I'm sure I will pick up more tips ... and share some experience with y'all.

Back in February post, Green Machine spoke of a white house in Kingsville .. any other info?

Please e-mail me apowers350@yahoo.com

Dr.Monger

03-30-03, 01:24

Brief trip report.

Had some time to kill, so I went up to Hampden. Them just my luck it started to rain! The streets were pretty dead. Then I saw my school chum from last week. The old saying any port in a storm ran through my head, so I stopped to give her a ride. No negotiations were necessary, as she seemed to remember me from the yearbook, or maybe it was English Lit. Anyway, she gargled well, and off we went. Again, I think she needs to devote more time to her studies. The enthusiasm was there, but the skill was not. Did not see anything else after I gave her a ride back to school.

Dr. Monger

Bradman

04-01-03, 15:40

I decided to get me some this morning so I went through Brooklyn. Globe, thanks for the excellent directions. Things were right where you said they'd be. Too bad there aren't any motels around there. Anyway, it was only 11am so there wasn't much, saw a couple of nasty 3's on Patapsco, and picked up a 5 on Fairhaven. After the "I'm not a cop" game, we went to a deserted junkyard. For 40, she used a nice deep throat to get me ready and I gave it to her in the ass. I was pretty happy for only my second sw experience. Thanks again for the info on the board, it's been really helpful.

SWCruiser

04-02-03, 01:18

Still lookin for action in Prince George's county - near Largo area. Anyone have any thoughts about where a guy can bust a nut around there in the afternoon? Any SWs or massage parlours?

Globetrotter

04-02-03, 02:41

Fellow mongers,

In the Brooklyn area, beware of a girl who calls herself Leslie. She is about 5'4", probably about 115 lbs and has curly brown medium lenght hair.

Made a trip to Balto on Saturday and, as usual, made Brooklyn my first stop. After a few passes down Fairhaven, I came upon a pair of SW's. One of them approached my car and I indicated that I was interested in the other so she came and hopped in and off we went. She took me to a nearby house that we could use for the usual $10.00 fee and we proceeded with the activities. For some reason, I felt a little uneasy and was reluctant to take my pants off but, foolishly, I let her talk me into it. She acted very weird, constantly shifting position and after about 5 minues of the worst BBBJ I have ever experienced, she excused herself to go to the bathroom and put on her own pants to do so. I then heard voices outside the room saying something like "she just left that guy in there and ran out". That's when it struck me that I'd been had. At first, I thought she just ripped me off for the $30.00 it cost me to that point but I immediately checked my pants pockets and noticed that the $110.00 cash I still had in there was gone. Thankfully, nothing else (my wallet and car keys) were missing.

I am embarassed to admit that I got ripped off so easily but will be the first to admit that I asked for it as I totally let my guard down and forgot all the rules that we on this board, including myself, constantly preach - shame on me! I suppose that it's been so long since I've been ripped off that I've become too complacent about safety precautions. You can bet that it will be a long time to come before that happens to me again.

Anyway, the day was still young. I had gotten an early start so found an ATM to get some more play money. Picked up a 6 on Washington Blvd., just South of S. Carey St. Again went to a nearby house but this time took care to lock my money, wallet and keys in my car before heading inside the house with only what I would need - $30.00. Got a decent, but not memorable BBBJ then left and moved on to PP and Conklin. There was nothing at all going on in the PP area, probably because of the rain and I almost turned back to head to the Block thinking that Conklin would also be a waste of time - good thing I didn't. This was actually only my second time picking up someone in the Conklin area as there just doesn't seem to be anyone there when I get there and when there are, there's usually a lot of LE crawling around which makes it unsafe to pick up anyone. Anyway, as I made a right onto Conklin from Baltimore St., I notice this very cute girl on the left and, luckily, she noticed me too. Not to be beaten by anyone else, I made a quick u turn in the middle of the block, scanned quickly for LE presence and there was none and into the car she hops. This was a very decent looking slim girl, at least an 8 fully clothed and a Julia Roberts like face with medium blonde hair. We went to a spot to park where she felt safe and proceeded with the BBBJ. I could tell right off that this girl had a lot of talent. Not only that, but she was very nice with a great attitude on top of it. After about 5 minutes, I decided to stop her and suggested going to a motel, something I very seldom do and only do so when I have a very good feeling about the girl I am with. She hesitated a bit, saying she was supposed to meet her girlfriend in a few minutes but suggested that we could go look for her and she would join us. Well, we looked around but didn't find her so she agreed to just go to the motel without her. What followed was some of the best mind blowing sex I have had in a very long time. This girl could suck a golf ball through ten feet of garden hose and the best part is that she really seemed to enjoy it. You gotta love a girl who's really into her work. After about 20 minutes of holding back as much as I could, I finally busted a nut and she swallowed every last bit of it then we both proceeded to clean up. By the time I finished cleaning up, she was already dressed but I still had the feeling like I could go another round so I start playing with her again, get her undressed and she does not complain a bit. On the contrary, she is again getting into it. Some more very enthusiastic BBBJ, about 5 minutes of DATY then finally FS. At this point, this girl is moaning, making all the right sounds and as evidenced by her contractions and sound, she gets off like gangbusters. Completely turned on by this, I only lasted about another 30 seconds until my second pop.

On this board, we often talk about the quality of SW's and about how we once in a while uncover that "gem" from under all those rocks out there. It had been a long time since I was fortunate enough to find such a prize but this day which started out so shitty, ended up being one of my most memorable trips in a very long time. The possibility of picking up a girl like this is what makes this hobby the irresistable pastime that it is for all of us who partake. To cap off a perfect time, this girl even turned out to have a phone number and better yet, the number is good - I checked it and confirmed it was so.

It was the worst of times, it was the best of times! (from a tale of two titties) LOL

Hammerin

04-02-03, 03:08

Thanks for the info on Brooklyn. Picked up Sabrina (approx. 25 Y/O blonde, about a 6 face & 8 attitude) at the intersection of Patapsco & Fairhaven Tues. evening & she took us to a fairly safe, dark place to park where she gave a very good BBBJ for $20 plus $5 tip for good service. FS was $40 but neither of us had a cover so had to pass it up.

PS Took some advice from the board & asked her to use the mouth wash that I took with me.

Tony Terrific

04-02-03, 08:26

Gentlemen..I love Baltimore and have had some GREAT sw. It is amazing how you can have a good run. I ran into 6 great girls in a row one month last fall but it always ends..anyway..I am not from the city and I would like directions coming from Frederick to get to Brooklyn. thanks!

tonyliberti@yahoo.com

Ol Seadog

04-02-03, 13:21

Great report Globtrotter, really appreciated your warning re; Leslie since I plan on being in play in the area for the first time this weekend. Sorry to hear abour your problem with her but hey man it has happened to all of us and you are right...ususally it is our own damn fault because we let our guard down. We always have to keep in mind who we are dealing with.

I like the PP/Conklin area because of the reasonable closeness of motels to the hunting grounds unlike Patapsco just in case we find a diamond like you did.

Incognito

04-02-03, 14:47

Greetings board members... my friend was kind enough to pass on these two stories for your reading enjoyment:

Approximately one month ago I hit the Block in search of a willing participant in some late night fun. I finally found a girl who fit the bill and was up for some after hours action. We met after her shift and away we went. She offered to take me to her place and like a fool I agreed. She took me to some part of the city where I had never been. She said she lived alone so I thought what the hell, why waste money on a hotel. Once in the house she immediately made a call to her crack dealer. Sure, the warning lights should have gone off at this point but I was very, very drunk and I was not making the best decisions at this point. So we get up to her room and we are sitting around partying a bit and finally I want to get the action started because I am starting to get very nervous. She asks for the agreed amount, but I told her we need to start first. Well, she demands the cash up front and I say... look, I don't have a good feeling about this. I tell her I'm getting out, and I will give her a 20 for her time (plus a free ride home). Well, she starts going off saying that I better cough up more money or she is going to get her crack dealer to bust my ass. So I am putting my jacket on and making my way downstairs and she is following me and screaming and going fukin nuts like she is going to pull a knife on me. In desperation I opend my wallet and grabbed what cash I had and handed it to her. It was like 40 bucks, with lots of ones and fives but she did not know this... she was demanding the total agreed amount, which was 200. Thankfully I did remember to keep the bulk of my money in a different location. So when I handed over the cash she probably thought it was the full amount. So there I am hustling for the doorway and she finally figures out how little I gave her and she comes chasing after me yelling and screaming saying that if I ever come around her house she is going to get someone to hurt me, etc. At this point I am freakin' and I jumped into my car and sped out of there... thinking that her crack-dealing friend was going to be there any second.

This was definitely the biggest mess I have ever gotten into. I swear I thought I was going to get hurt. This crack-head freak was on a mission. I share this story with you because I broke many of the rules we talk about here on the board. Man, if it don't feel right, it ain't. If a girl suddenly takes on another personailty, or gets pushy about the money, get the hell out. Never, and I mean never, go to their place. Finally, don't get so blinded that you can't see straight or think straight enough to make good decisions. Oh yeah... and keep most of your money hidden in a good location separate from your wallet.

Globe's story reminded me of my little adventure so I thought I would post... for my buddy that is (he does not have internet access).

Next story to follow...

Incognito

04-02-03, 15:25

OK, now for a story with a much happier ending. My buddy passes along this tale...

Last night I hit the Block, not really on a mission but just wanted to check out the scene and see if any new blockettes were out. Well it was pretty slow in most clubs, but there were some hotties. I must have hit every club once, but because it was still early I decided to make a second pass into a couple of the places. There was a cutie in one bar who I had my eye on earlier. She never approached me either visit, so I though what the hell, I'll go ask her if she wants a drink... she was just so cute.

So we get a drink and I'm feeling good about this girl so I inquire about getting together to party sometime... and she says "well, I don't get off until 2AM". And I'm like, wow, she wants to roll tonight... nice. So we plan to meet at the Midway after her shift. I had about two hours to kill so of course I spent my time getting my drink on in some of the other bars. Well sure enough at 2:05 she shows up. She looks great and I can't even believe she showed. So I suggest a hotel on Pulaski. We get there and start partying a bit. She tells me she is in no hurry, and money was never discussed. She starts doing a private striptease for me as I lay back on the bed... much better than in the club I might add. We start kissing and slowly begin to shed our clothes. This girl is 21 and has a nice little tight petite body- just my style. I would give her an 8 for looks, and a 10 on personality. I mean, she was kissing me like I was her boyfriend... really getting into it. She was also saying things and doing things to me that made me feel like I was in an f'in porno. We were both high as shit and I was totally drunk and basically went at it for a couple of hours. Of course I am getting paranoid because of my recent experience and this just seems to good to be true. I kept waiting for a crackhead to come through the door and beat my ass, or have her steal money from my pants. But no such luck... so we just kept at it. I know I went through 3 condoms by the time we finshed.

Finally we were both exhausted so I checked out and took her home. We stopped at Royal Farm on the way home so she could get a drink... get this... money was STILL not discussed at this point. I even asked her to buy me a bottled water as I waited outside. When we pulled up at her place I handed her 140.00 (all I had) and thanked her for a great time. She looked surprised that I wanted to give her money and seemed really greatful... damn why are there not more girls out there like this?!?!?!?!

I get home at like 6AM and here I am at work, drained and exhausted (and sore!) but with a smile that will not leave my face.

This was the single best hook up I have ever had so I thought I would share it with the board. Last night was one of those rare experiences that we all long for on our endless pursuit of booty.

Man, my buddy has some good stories. Over and out.

Incognito

04-02-03, 17:24

Almost forgot... I checked out that new strip club called "chubbies" on eastern avenue. The place was nice, trying to be upscale, but pretty small. The girls working were decent but nothing to write home about. It did not have that sleeze factor which I have come to know and love thanks to the Block.

Later!

Ebdawgg

04-02-03, 20:29

The block today was full of some of the cuter "blockettes" I've seen in a while and there was some amazing eye candy at the Pussycat but they didn't seem too friendly. They were well worth the look though. Most places had few customers and some good bargains. Unfortunately I ended up at The Jewel box and against my own better judgement, dealt with nasty Nikki, the bartender. The girls were very friendly but Nikki once more did what she could to make the experience unpleasant; even the girls got annoyed with being rushed. The good news is that Nikki may soon quit; I understand that the same talent will be on hand in a much more fun atmosphere. Keep your eyes out as it may be more interesting at the Jewel Box soon. All and all it was a good afternoon with lots of supply and little demand. I hope that the "blockheads" out there get to enjoy some of the excess.

Happy hunting

TrashMan

04-03-03, 01:21

Well thank you Jeeezuz for these great posts! I was beginning to think that all of Baltimore had degenerated to driving around all night with very little to show and that was the extent of the monger scene. Block fucks, rip off stories, SW fucks...now that's the good stuff guys keep it cumming

Green Machine

04-04-03, 04:08

The Machine was out in force tonight!

Went down to Canton to meet up with some friends then after I thought I would take a tour of PP/Highlandtown. Pretty quiet and hardly any LE action around 12:30am. Saw a couple of girls getting picked up by other mongers and then decided to swing down Eastern through Highlandtown. Saw a young looking white girl along Eastern, pulled over and she jumped in.

Her name was Megan and she was kinda cute, about a 7. Said she was 22 but she looked young (maybe 18-19) but as we chatted she seemed to be the age she said. I was feeling randy and she looked pretty good and I had some flash money so I thought I would give one of the Route 40 motels a try. Stopped off to get some condoms at the store and away we went. Stopped by the first motel on the right and they wanted $70 - fuggeddahboudit! Went to the Rosedale and got a room for $30.

The room was decent enough and clean enough. Dropped the clothes and made ourselves comfortable. Very small tits - not even A cups and went to town. BBBJ, sucking on the balls and a little DATY before getting to business. Slipped on the condom and it was a tight fit. Tight enough that I didn't last very long! Reverse Cowboy certainly is ideal! Finished up, cleaned up and dropped her off. Very pleasant girl and a pleasant experience. Too bad she doesn't have a phone number.

Alright, I have to admit that after all this time in the scene, I'm still a little dumb about the facts. Yes, I did use a condom for the deed but I was wondering what are the risks about DATY? What can be transmitted? What should I be on the lookout for?

Ebdawgg

04-04-03, 06:39

Originally posted by Green Machine

Alright, I have to admit that after all this time in the scene, I'm still a little dumb about the facts. Yes, I did use a condom for the deed but I was wondering what are the risks about DATY? What can be transmitted? What should I be on the lookout for?

GM,

There's always some risk, but that's a reasonbly safe activity. Things can certainly be transmitted that way but the chances are small. For more info there have been some detailed discussions on the Safe Sex board here. Read some of the posts and see what you think. Also, the CDC has a good website as does the Society for Social Health (or something like that).

Happy eating...

Incognito

04-04-03, 09:37

Greenie...

A buddy of mine picked up good 'ol Megan about a week ago. He said the same thing... young with a cute face. BBBJTC in car. Not bad at all.

As far as STD's, DATY is one of the "lower" risk activities but you can still get herpes of the mouth. The scary thing is it is very tough to tell just by visual inspection whether or not someone is disease free. Herpes is a highly transmittable virus.

Keep up th good work and be safe!

Capacity

04-04-03, 16:45

Hey gang, long time lurker so I thought I would drop my two cents in and ask a few questions myself.

First off, has anyone noticed all the new street lamps on 40 and pp area? In my opinion for the yuppies who are buying up the houses and redoing them in that area of pp it's working because there aren't nearly the amount of sw out anymore that used to be out years ago. Took a extended ride around town saturday night around 11:30. Started around pp, picked up one girl but the acne and facial bloating along with severe bruises and scabs on hands prompted me to play dumb and say "oh.. I thought you needed a ride...uh...sorry"

Moved onto Eastern and Conklin, one really attractive brunette waif was out kinda "dancin" around on the corner. She came to car, but freaked out and split (I think my car reminds of a cop car)

Moved on down to Washington, but only saw some 1's and 2's plus that not my normal stompin ground so I don't know where to take anyone around there. Any suggestions?

Finally moved back through pp and Conklin, nothing to see, down to Brooklyn, again nothing. I also moved all the way out by rt 1 as well by the Salvation Army saw nothing but pavement.

Watched a bunch of teenage girls get into a cat fight on one of the side streets then moved onto home.

There is some info on women I have from the citypaper that I will share later this week.

A couple of questions... what time is le shift change and why does it make a difference? Also how far up Eastern does everyone go?

Lastly, I saw a mention of a white house in Kingsville. Does anyone have anymore info on this??

-Cap

Dr.Monger

04-04-03, 20:05

Green: Could you backchannel me at mdmonger@hotmail.com. I have a question about the area where you picked Megan up. Thanks.

Dr. Monger

Dr.Monger

04-06-03, 17:52

This weekend's scouting report:

Had some opportunities to peruse some strolls this weekend.
Hampden daytime was pretty dead. PP and Conkling likewise. Saw maybe one unacceptable SW near conkling during the day, and ditto Hampden.

Did a very late night check of Brooklyn/Wash Blvd. One heavyset SW on Patapsco. Not my type. Nothing on Fairhaven. Went down Washington Blvd. and saw a SW with a long dress and white hose, but I was on the wrong side of the street. COuld not decide whether to turn around, as she had a little skank look but I could not get a good look, and white hose do it for me. So I turned around, but saw another car ahead of me a few blocks turning around. He must have picked her up, because she was gone when I got back (about two blocks) and it was industrial, so nowhere else for her to go. Continued on down Washington, and saw what I thought was a cute, young blonde SW. Circled around, and came out on the corner where she was standing. SCARY LOOKING is all I can say. Not young, awful face close up, I did not even stop. Nothing on Carey or Wilkens.

Went up to Hampden. Thought I saw an old friend, but when I circled around I only saw another girl who did not appeal to me. Young and thin, but face was a 3-4. Nothing else out. It was very late so I headed home.

PREVIOUS WEEK

I did have the opportunity (and motivation) to do a midweek Hampden check. Found a decent SW. Brunette (I usually prefer blondes). She was nice enough at first. Went to my favorite spot. Agreed on price. She asked for the money up front. I complied (have not had a bad experience doing this yet in Hampden). Then after she starts she say TCIM will require a tuition increase. I agreed, as it was minimal. Nice technique. Afterwards, I did not have the smaller amount of the tuition change and gave her a larger bill. Of course she had no change...lol. I told her she could make it up next time. Still a big bargain compared to what I used to spend on Blockettes and escorts.

Dr. Monger

Dr.Monger

04-08-03, 00:55

More weekend scouting.

Went to Hampden mid-evening. Did not see much. Drove around for about fifteen minutes, but not really much going on. Decided to go down to PP to see what it was like down there.

Got to PP, and as usualy lately, it was pretty dead. I think this area may be drying up as far as SW go...LE was not heavy, but was evident. Saw a WSW get dropped off by her black pimp in a crappy car...she was about a 4...not interested. Nothing doing down by Conkling. Saw a few suspects, but no one who actively seemed to be looking to spend some quality time. Went down Eastern, and saw two ugly, overweight SW, one black one white, not interested in either. Occassionally saw a cute girl here and there, but every time I would circle they would be gone, doubt they were working. Did see a SW later near PP, but could not get a good look at her. The body looked nice (big breasts, thin legs) but I could not see the face. By the time I came around she was gone, think she got into a truck.

Not much else going on. Did see two gorgeous blondes on PP, thought for sure they could not be SW. One looked very familiar, but I thought there was no way she would be in this area. As it turns out, after looking at another board today, it turns out there is an incall location for an escort service right near there, and I am certain it was her.

Headed back up to Hampden. Wow the heat was on. Some poor sap had been pulled over by LE with full lights flashing, right by the usual stroll. Obviously none of the girls were there with that much heat. Decided to chill and wait for a while. Came back about 25 minutes later. Saw a GORGEOUS blonde off the usual stroll. She was just standing on the corner. I looked at her, and she looked back, but I am not ballsy enough to do anything if I am not sure. I circled around, and saw an old school chum of mine before I got back to the blonde. I was still interested in the blonde, so I passed and the blonde was gone. I really don't think she was a SW, just too good-looking, and not on the stroll, but damn close, and I have seen suspects there in the past.

Continued on my way and picked up my school pal. We discussed the weather and she wanted to show me a new stargazing spot. I went there, but I really could not see much, so I took her to my usual place. I think she must have graduated, because she gave me a masterful lecture that was probably the best I have gotten in a car. It was so good, after the usual donation, I gave her an extra donation towards room and board besides tuition.

Now lets hear from some of you other mongers....I seem to be posting the majority of the fictitious stories on here...now its your turns. Of course, more info is available bc to known posters, or other who have info to trade.

Dr. Monger

Joey D

04-08-03, 10:51

Fellows,

New to the SW scene, went to Brooklyn/Fairhaven on Sunday afternoon between 5pm and 6pm. So, 4 of the most ugliest SW's. I circled around several times, then took off. How do I get to the Hampden, Conlikn, and PP areas? My e-mail is bigdmd601@yahoo.com

Thanks,

Joey

Cassidy

04-08-03, 12:53

Questions for fellow users of this site!

No. 1
Has anyone seen or had to opportunity to visit with hot looking Blonde SW in the Wash Blvd area. I have not been able to meet her yet, despite seeing her 3-4 times. Someone always seems to beat me to her. Last time it was a guy in a P/U that literally raced ahead of me after I had truned around to pick her up. I have always seen her near Wash Ave. and Pat Ave. She must be good because she is "always" gone when I get back to her. Twice beaten out by the very car in front of me......I may need a faster car! Hot body and seems to be pretty attractive in the face to, from what I have seen. Any info would be appreciated. You can BC me at cassidy1102000@yahoo.com

No. 2
I am fairly new to this hobby, and I really only get to look around during the day, mid-afternoon to be exact. Where, in your humble opinion, is the best place to look at this time of day. I realize that the traffic is slower this time of day, but you need to make hay when the sunshines!

Thx,

Cassidy

Globetrotter

04-09-03, 00:26

Hey Cassidy,

Can you clarify the location for that hot blonde. You mentioned Washington Blvd. and Pat Ave. What and where is Pat Ave.? Is that supposed to be short for Patapsco Ave.? Curious because I've only seen a SW near that corner (by the Hess station, I think) only one time and she was a skank. What time of the day was this?

As far as your best bet on where to go during the daytime, I've always been most consistently lucky in the Brooklyn area during the day. They're spread out and you have to look for them but they are there.

Cassidy

04-09-03, 14:04

Thanks GT for the daytime info. Yes, Pat Ave. is Patapsco Ave. Both times I have seen this blonde in question it has been midday, 1-3 PM. She's gotten into different vehicles each time, so I don;t think she is waiting for a ride, definitely looks like she is a SW.

Also, anyone I should avoid in Brooklyn?

Globetrotter

04-09-03, 21:08

Cassidy,

Thanks for the info. Maybe I'll keep a sharper eye out for the hot blonde next time I get up there. As far as Brooklyn, be sure to avoid a SW named Leslie. Read my post of 4/02/03 on this board for the details. Good luck!

Dr.Monger

04-10-03, 00:30

WHAT THE H*** IS GOING ON?

Two Scouting trips, two goose eggs! Just a brief rant here. Twice this week I have done EXTENDED hunts in my usual spots, and saw very little action. When I did see some, it was gone in the blink of an eye. PP is definitely dead. I can't understand why there were more girls out in the cold weather. Conkling was dead two. Hampden, not as dead, but mostly skanks and the same old suspects. Even when I saw old chums, they were scooped up before I could get to them. Even went to Brooklyn and Wash. Blvd. SOme slight action, but all skanks...WHERE ARE THE HOTTIES???

Dr. Monger

TrashMan

04-10-03, 03:36

Dr. M.
Let me offer some advice from an older man. I hear the impatience and frustration in your message. When you hunt in that frame of mind coupled with spending too much time spent hunting (gleaned from your capitalized "extended" word choice),
several things are bound to be true.
1) You're looking way too hard
2) You're in the wrong frame of mind to succeed
3) You're asking to get tripped up either by LE or a setup because you've become way too visible couple with careless
4)Like buffalo, pussy herds move feeding grounds from time to time and get hunted out

My advice for what it's worth? I have been where you are now and that's usually when I fuck up and end up paying the price for little head thinking. Just recently a good buddy of mine who is very experienced and a pretty smart guy let his expectations exceed reality in his mind and he began to forget the rules and nearly had a really bad situation crawl up his asshole and chew his insides out. As it was, he had a really bad night.
Sometimes it's better to just cool out for a while and let your mind clear and give the herd time to return. It always does.
Then, when you're not looking so hard in all the same areas, the hunt goes better and meat is fresher. I have a basic rule, if I don't find something with a very short time and one or two passes, I forget and move on to a different feeding ground. When I take this approach, I am way less uptight and don't worry about it and it results in a very high success rate with a lot less frustration. This is only my two cents, you do whatever works for you.

Dr.Monger

04-10-03, 11:59

Trashman,

Thanks for the advice. You know I respect your opinion greatly.
However, let me say that my frame of mind is great. I am always very careful. I am very cognizant of LE, and never take chances, no matter what. Quite frankly, this has saved my butt this week, when I resisted the temptation to do a u-turn, and the next car coming opposite me turned out to be LE. Granted, I am horny, but I do not let that push me into irrational acts. (Other than the fact that pick up SWs is irrational, but that is a different mental problem.) Again, I appreciate the concern. But I am not a risk taker. Hell, I don't even ride roller-coasters.

I do think the SW stroll has moved from PP. The trick is to find it again. Hampden is still ok, but it is mostly the same 5 or 6 faces over and over, and I need some variety. Brooklyn/Wash. Blvd/Carey/Wilkens is just kinda far and a pain, plus my comfort level is low, and I don't have a good spot if I did find someone.

Dr. Monger

Cassidy

04-10-03, 13:11

Gentlemen:

They say curiosity killed the cat, or maybe it got him something else!

Just curious, does anyone have any information of a non-descript white house on Joppa Rd near the Beltway and a Ford dealership. Saw a house with asian lettering on the sign from the Beltway and just wondered what it might be?

Any info would be appreciated.

Be back later with a brooklyn scoting report.

Cassidy

Bingo

04-10-03, 15:06

Long time lurker here, thanks for the great stories fellas.

Finally popped my SW cherry last Tue after 3-4 weeks of noncommittal, brief circling of the PP, Brooklyn, and Hampden areas (not too familiar yet with the Carey/Wilkens loop yet) - and, of course, following this board with interest.

Too scared, really, to stop and pick one up - the straw that broke the camel's back was at PP, where I spotted a so-so woman who looked like a SW (other side of street), and then just before I could start circling around (not a U-turn, I've tended to just make a series of lefts or rights to come around - bad idea or no? while it slows me down relative to other mongers, I thought it would be safer), in my rearview mirror I saw a blue pickup dash over to the curb, stop, and she just got on in. Seeing it actually happen was just what I needed to try it myself. A-HA!

Anyways a few more nights of not really seeing anyone I was interested in (so far, I never spend more than 5-10 min in one place, total hunting time <2hr shuttling between the various places), and finally last Tue on the north side of PP a waifish 5'2" brunette girl, thin, A-cup, walking along around 11pm. Made eye contact the first pass, circled once around making sure I'd be ahead of where she was walking. Made eye contact again, I pulled over, unlocked the doors, and she got on in.

The rest was surely nothing special for any of the pros here, but for a SW virgin (albeit Block & outcall experienced) it was pretty damn cool to have it happening in my car. Chit-chat, cop-proof fondling, she knew a place to stop, I asked for a BBBJ, she said fine, asked "for the money up front" - but didn't say how much, and after giivng her $20 she went to town. A bit nervous at first staring at the back of people's unlit houses while she bobbed up and down but Melissa's technique was great (especially considering her small mouth). Gave a her a $20 tip afterwards, to her surprise, dropped her back off on north PP.

Thanks again to all the fellas for the bits of advice over the months. To any other lurkers, things I kept in mind were: I kept my trousers mostly up, in case I had to rapidly egress the situation, and I had previously hidden most of my cash and valuables (cell phone, cards, etc). I'll have to work on finding camping grounds I like, rather than relying on the SW's expertise.

even with the extra $20 it was a great bargain compared to getting similar service at the bar on the Block, or even off-campus from a blockette (especially if you add in the up-front costs in drinks/tips; although the occasional long-term relationship is worth it, plus you can simply call her up and ask her if she's available!). As compared outcall, well it's dealer's choice. For $$ to $$$, a relaxed, care-free hour of romping with a beautiful, healthy woman, with many reputable providers to choose from, with essentially no LE threat: certainly worth it if the $$ are available!

I think it'll be a while before I graduate to full service SW action Definitely would never do it in my car, too nervous about getting caught or losing my bimmer; pretty damn nervous about walking into a crack house and paying $10 for the privilege; and once you add up the cost of a motel room, it's getting to be about $100-$140 - for $60 more I could get decent outcall, and $150 pretty damn good outcall.

One big plus for SW, though, must be their willingness - Melissa immediately agreed to BBBJ and hoovered all the way through the climax. At the Block BB that'd be impossible (in my experience, almost always CBJ or at best BBBJ with a hand finish) and with escorts it's either iffy or only after repeat visits. I suspect with melissa if I'd had the inclination things like Greek, facials, light roughhousing etc would all be on the menu for very reasonable $.

well, thought I'd break out of lurking. You never forget the first, eh?

see ya on the field,

Cassidy

04-10-03, 15:30

Nothing happening in Broklyn at lunch time. Saw a couple of SW, but all were very unsatisfactory. All seen on or near Fairhaven.

Good Luck and be Safe!

Ebdawgg

04-10-03, 18:44

Just a couple of quick questions for the hardcore PP/Conkling/Rt.40 cruisers:

Everybody is starting to say that this area is dead; anybody notice any of the same SWs from the eastside in other areas?

And has anybody ever been to Tommy's Lounge on Conkling? What did you think of the place?

Just curious. Thanks in advance. Happy hunting.

Cloud William

04-10-03, 18:54

Hey guys,

Last weekend I was in Balt with plenty of time to spare. I arrived in the afternoon and quickly found a acceptible SW on Dundalk Ave. We went off and did the deed in a quiet place.
Good skills, but used too much hand.
I dropped her off and drove around the PP and Conkling areas. Nothing at first so I went off and took care of the actual reason I came to Balto for.
Later as the time got later and the light dimmer they started coming out. I counted 7 or 8 in the Conkling area alone. Check the side streets and other main roads such as Haven, Clinton, Eastern.
I found another SW and again we went off and did the deed.
Excellent deep throat action and a nice personality.

I do think Trashman is right, the herds do get hunted out and they move off to other grounds. LE does have effect and will drive them away if pressure is high enough. However I cannot understand why two girls I have been seeing on the corners for at least two years are still in business.
One is Red who can usually be found in the Conkling area. Its pretty obvious what she does for a living.

The other is a brunette who wanders around the Crown gas station area. Avoid her, she usually is carrying a coat over one arm in front of her belly. Its for a good reason, I took a good look at her one day with binoculars and she has a gut that flops over her pants like a pumpkin two weeks after Halloween.

I've never picked either of them up and don't intend to either.

Doc, try altering your hunting times if you're able. Also try sitting one place where the game passes by. Get a newspaper, relax, and keep your eyes open.
The weather will be breaking for good soon and I'll bet the
game will return to the hunting grounds.

Cloud

Clix

04-11-03, 07:29

Been real busy and mongering time impacted.....well, maybe it is the posting that is really been impacted more.
Did a nice run around the Wilkens/Wash Blvd loop last night (9ish).
First babe, and I mean babe never seen before, that interested me (lots of hags not worth farting on prior to this one) on Wilkens several blocks east of Monroe. Doubled back to pick her up and boom, some guy picked her up just as I came around....damn.
Cruised down to Wash.
Nice looking brunette with reddish hue to it. Came back around up the one way street east of the gas station. She scanned around alot before getting in. She looked like she could have been a little rough from the distance, but up close was still much better than most SW.
32 y.o. nice body. Terri. been in Baltimore three weeks.
Should have taken her to a motel cause she was that good. Parked locally, NICE body. NIce titties (medium Bs). Nice Girl. Nice throat action. Didn't even want the money up front. No phone. Lives one block off of Wash Blvd east of Carey. One of those girls/experiences that makes SW hobby so good. A diamond, not in the rough per se, cause she has stripper/SW for a few years off and on in Balt and PA, but not at all jaded. I will definitely hook up with her again if I see her. No phone, damn it.
Keep up the great posts guys.

Paland

04-11-03, 21:33

Got a chance to cruise down Falls Road this afternoon. Didn't have time to taste any treats but several of you mongers got me checking this area. First pass was around noon. Saw several "suspects" as the Dr. calls them on Falls before the Ave. Both kind of young, one definitely working, the other not sure. Went around the corner going east on the Ave., saw two older, one wearing red coat standing along wall facing the Ave from 7-11. Saw a couple more possibles on the Ave. Decent looking. Made pass back up and around to do this again. All gone except for the two older ones next to 7-11. After doing some actual work I cruised same area on the way out of B'more. Damn, saw 4 or 5 more possibles and miss red coat hag. Several of these younger ones (and decent looking) were the same as earlier today. Didn't have time to explore more but can confirm again this small area can/does have some action. I need to do some scouting in the future on where to do the deed in this area during daylight hours before engaging. Just another detail to work on.

Happy Hunting!

godzilla

04-13-03, 01:51

I have visited a few AMP's recently and generally had good experiences. Being married however, makes the cash situation rather difficult. I do not think I am ready to move to SW, due to my paranoia.

Does anyone have a SW "contact" they could back channel me that is trustworthy? It would much easier to siphon off $30-50 from the joint accounts rather than the $100+.

Thanks
Zilla
pv715n@yahoo.com

TrashMan

04-13-03, 21:46

Gzilla,
Trustworthy and SW is an oxymoron. Your greater challenge and the place to spend your energies now IMHO would be to solve your hobby cash flow problem. You need to establish an alibi for time disappearing as well as money disappearing. Otherwise, your old lady will catch up with you. Even if you have to squirrel away lunch money and pocket change to establish a secret piggy bank, that's a better and safer bet than having to explain to her where 100 here and there that's missing from a joint account has gone. One way you might do it is to simply buy things that you "need" ...clothes, tools etc that she's not likely to track and then simply return them and pocket the cash. Then go hunting .Good luck

Sam

04-14-03, 10:05

Cash Flow Problems: Lottery tickets can account for some spending. Leave a few loser tickets lying around where they might accidently be found. Seed the mine so to speak. But don't get too involved in your hobby or your spouse will want you to join gamblers anonymous.

Hugh Jardon

04-14-03, 13:57

Last Thursday: Brooklyn was crawling with coochie in the early afternoon. 4-5 on Patapsco, another 4-5 on Fairhaven. Unfortunately, the quality was fair, at best. Settled for April, said she was 23, two kids, so the tits kinda sagged. Bad complexion.
Is that a druggie sign? I know about the swollen fingers, cracked fingernails as a sign of drug use, but is a lot of acne a sign, too?
She agreed to $20 for a BBBJTCIM, no swallow. Tried to use a lot of hand action. I always stop that stuff by telling them to jiggle my balls and play with my ass. This lets me do some thrusting up into their throat, too. Be warned, some will gag from this. Anyway, blew a massive load that she took like a trooper and showed me before she spit it out on the street.
As far as the cash flow problems, here's a solution I used for a while-become a sperm donor. You have to be under 45 years old-under 40 at some places. They will get a complete medical history from you-leave out what you think they might not like-like picking up streetwalkers. They will test you for all kinds of diseases, so you'll know you're good. You can "donate" 2-3 times a week, so it takes some of the "pressure" off the system anyway. And the great part, I was getting $40 a shot. It was my own private stash that I used for ho'ing adventures. It feels weird the first couple times going into a room, whacking into a sample vial, and then handing it to a nurse, but you get used to it. They had a fine collection of porn, too.

TrashMan

04-14-03, 22:56

Incog,
check your new email. You can reach me at The_Real_TrashMan@hotmail.com
Trash

Happy Day

04-14-03, 23:23

Wow. What a day I had. I love the occasional weekday's off that I get as comp time with my company. They always go to such good use...

Started out cruising brooklyn ... this was around 1:30. Saw several prospects, but no one that excited me until I was about halfway down Fairview and saw a girl in a casual business suit just standing on the corner with a legal pad. She caught my attention though, as someone who was probably a SW. (As you know, they all have a certain look.) So, I went around the block and pulled up alongside her, we exchanged glances and she jumped in. Very nice body, nice tits, I was quite impressed. Turns out, she was on her way to court for a probation violation hearing, but she couldn't get a ride up to Baltimore. So, we bartered. I got some nice BBBJ action, while I acted as her taxi. So, first score didn't cost me a dime other than gas money going in the direction I was headed already.

I dropped her off then I headed over to Washington Blvd. This was my first trip to Wash ... wow ... I don't know if it was the weather, the time of day, or what, but damn! They were everywhere ... and really damn good looking too. I picked up a very young (just barely 18) very cute, long haired blond, with cute b-cups. Paid her 40 +10 to use her house. Normally I wouldn't be up on the idea, but I had a feeling this would be okay in this case, and it turned out to be just fine! Very nice FS. I left there very satisfied.

Well, I kept cruising for awhile ... saw a number of additional prospects, some I liked, others were so-so. One I kept trying to chase down, and every time she turned a corner, I was in the wrong spot and then she vanished.

Awesome day in baltimore.

Hey ... question for anyone ... where the hell is Wilkins? I've looked on mapquest, and it doesn't ever bring anything up. Is is spelled differently, or am I just missing something?

Hugh, I'm not positive about the facial scabs, acne, breaking out, but I read on the Seattle page of this forum some guy posting that there were advanced stages of HIV. That gave me a weird feeling when I read that, and since then I've stayed the hell away from anyone that has anything more than a normal facial blemish, but I'm not sure if that's true or not.

-Happy Day-

pepper

04-15-03, 01:46

I just need a little help... I am a big fan of AMP but I can only go when I get the money. I visited the moonlight spa in Baltimore a couple of times and I saw Yumi and Mimi there before. Both were great and I was very happy with the service, but that was a while ago and I don't think they work there anymore as the AMPs change their staffs frequently. So I want to see if anyone been to Moonlight lately and which girl would you recommend?

Many thanks in advance!

Bingo

04-15-03, 11:13

Happy Day - glad you had more luck I. Still quite new to the SW scene, but the 4 or 5 times I have gone hunting in daylight I couldn't find anyone convincing enough to pull up to. I think I get confused by all the regular street pedestrian traffic. Will have to try more, though, based on your experience here.

Brief scouting report: last night cruised Brooklyn and PP around 9pm'ish, nothing. Hung out on the Block for a few hours, but didn't sample the wares too much. Having experienced SWs for $30 it's too damn hard to cough up $$ to $$$$ for a night on the Block anymore. Wasn't able to pick up any take-home dates either but said hi to some old friends and made progress with two young waifish cuties. Hopefully at least one will pay off. Drove through Hampden around 2am, again nada.

Complexion? From my experience (MDMonger feel free to comment) acne/scars simply reflects personal hygiene/IV drug use. Sure advanced HIV can lead to poor wound healing, but malnutrition among these girls I'm sure plays a significant role.
AIDS can lead to Kaposi's sarcoma, which looks completely different from acne though.

But no need to let down your guard - a decade back the Hopkins ER looked at everyone coming through their doors, and about 12% (1 in 10!!) were HIV+. But more fearsome, 83% (5 of every 6!!) of self-admitted IV drug users were Hepatitis C positive - a disease highly underrated by the press and the public.

be safe,

Midnight

04-15-03, 12:32

First time poster here, but just wanted to say thanks to everyone for the great information that's been posted here -- it's been really helpful!

Happy Day, you're looking for "Wilkens", not "Wilkins" -- in order to find it, go down Washington Blvd to Monroe, where you'll see the big white Montgomery Park building; turn right on Monroe and go up the hill. Wilkens will be the second light. The intersection of Wilkens and Monroe is a little tricky, since you can't turn left onto Wilkens there -- you want to turn left at the FIRST light (this is Eagle Street), which has a furniture warehouse on one corner, and a bar on another corner. Turn right at the very first street (you're essentially travelling a small block around the furniture warehouse and a few rowhouses -- this is Payson Street), and turn left onto Wilkens.

There are often a few girls hanging out on Payson or by the Eagle Street side of the furniture warehouse. Late at night, you may also see girls sitting on the stoop on three of the four corners at Payson and Wilkens. Quality is spotty -- I've seen hot girls here, and I've seen girls that I'd run like hell from.

Along Wilkens, keep an eye out for girls standing on streetcorners or sitting on a stoop alone. If she's sitting in front of a boarded-up house, odds are good she's a SW. Lately, I've seen more girls standing at the corner of Pulaski and Wilkens. The corner of Catherine and Wilkens used to be a prime hunting spot, but seems to have fizzled out. There's a Catholic church a block past Catherine Street at Millington Street, and only once have I ever seen a SW past that church, although there are often girls at that corner.

My preferred cruising route is down Washington Blvd to Monroe, across to Wilkens by the route described above, down Wilkens to Millington and back up, then through the light at Monroe and continue through that little neighborhood along Ramsay Street to Carey, turn right on Carey to Washington Blvd, and repeat as needed.

Cruise the area for a while, and you'll get familiar with it, and where the good spots are. It's probably a good idea to cruise it in daylight a few times to make sure you don't get lost late at night, too -- you're safe enough on the bigger streets, but if you get confused at 3 am on some narrow back-alley, you might be in trouble.

As always, keep an eye out for LE in the area. If you see a Traffic Enforcement car, clear the area for a while -- they're hanging out looking to ticket cruisers for anything they can get you on, like "improper signal". I got ticketed a few months ago, and it cost me the $50 I'd been planning to bestow on some lucky lady!

I've found the Carey/Washington Blvd area to be very hit-and-miss -- sometimes, you find hotties almost leaping out at you, and other times, it's totally dead, or there's nothing but skanks. It does seem to pick up after 10pm, though.

Some people have expressed doubts about going to a house that the SW suggests. I can only say, "Listen to your gut." I've seen a girl open a door into a godawful crack den, and said, "Nope, not going in there." I've also had a girl take me to her actual house, so it can work out OK if she feels safe with you and you feel safe with her.

I personally prefer car dates, but you need to be careful to find someplace where you're not going to be seen or you can get out of the car and walk someplace nearby safely. Also, don't leave a mess -- if someone finds a pile of crusty condoms in his parking lot, he might just hire a security guard for a while to watch things. Once, a girl talked me into just pulling over on a residential street, and that was really bad when the homeowner came out and yelled at us to get moving.

The New Guy

04-15-03, 17:11

Guys i need some directions to these hot spots from say 695 in owings mills. i need directions to PP, Brooklyn, Hampden, Washington BLVD. Do i take 83 south toward baltimore or what? Also, what is a good route to take if these places are all somewhat in the same area? also times??? when are the better times on both weekdays and weekends for searching. Day time or morning is best for me but i just thought w/ school and all alot of SW's wouldnt want to come out. Maybe they do while school is in session i just need to know good hours such as 9-3 or something while school is in session???

Thanks in advance for all your help.

Globetrotter

04-15-03, 20:05

Happy Day,

Congratulations on your good fortune on your recent Balto trip. Reason you can't find Wilkins on Mapquest is that it is spelled WILKENS. It runs roughly parallel to Washington Blvd. I forget exactly when I posted it but one or two months ago, I posted some fairly detaild directions for getting there. Good luck!

Clix

04-15-03, 20:15

Originally posted by Happy Day

Hey ... question for anyone ... where the hell is Wilkins? I've looked on mapquest, and it doesn't ever bring anything up. Is is spelled differently, or am I just missing something?

-Happy Day-

Hey Happy -
The Boulevard (Wash. Blvd) or the strip as we call it south of Baltimore, is a very good area for cruising, often but not exclusively, in the day as you described. It can also be a hag haven, so you hit it at the right time.
Wilkens is with an "e" not an i.
If you head north from Wash Blvd on Monroe, and take the first stoplight left then your next right, you will be facing Wilkens.
From Wash Blvd on Desoto it is the first MAjor stoplight where Desoto dead ends. On Caton, it is where St. Agnes is at the intersection of Caton and Wilkens. Wilkens essentially is parallel to Washington Blvd. One of them is Route 1 and the other is Route 1 Bypass.
Try the loop, sometimes called the clix loop..... Washington Blvd South to DeSoto (or Caton), make right. Go to Wilkens, make right. Continue all the way down Wilkens, always scanning, all the way to Carey St. (this takes you through lots of stop signs and rough areas, but well worth the effort...lots of SW "hide" in these areas near Carey. Make the right on Carey all the way to Washington Blvd. Make right....then go to Monroe, make a right up to Wilkens again.......and use variations....
You will find many a lady at all hours.
Beward of a young short light skinned good looking black girl on Washington often found near the US GAS or Park area named Diamonds. Rumor has it she is only 15 or so and HIV positive. She looks and claims like she is 18 to 22, I have been told.
Many ladies are HIV + out there, the age thing is a sure ticket to the slammer.....

HaywoodJablomey

04-15-03, 21:33

Picked up a 23yo white chick (black hair, shaved, ~5'10", 120 lb) near PP around 9pm; pleasant face, decent body, ~5 tattoos. A solid 7 if you like biker chix; 6 otherwise. Hit a hotel off 40. Good technical skills but performance was "unenthusiastic"overall; nice perrito finish, tho - I liked them 23yo hips. Her attitude quite decent, overall, even if the performance wasn't terribly inspired. Kinda chatty, but in a nice way. Dances on/off in Fells Pt and on The Block; typical dancer, life's a mess, trying to get her shit together, needs money, but probably blowing most of it on her Habit.
I had cruised for about 2 hrs before that; clix loop was dead, PP had a couple of skanks around. I was actually going to head to Falls Rd when I saw her.
Be careful, all, happy hunting.

Globetrotter

04-16-03, 00:49

Haywood,

What the hell is a "perrito" finish?

Happy Day

04-16-03, 10:01

Clix, Globe, and Midnight,

Thanks for the help. I checked out the "clix loop" last night ... all makes sense now. Finally I have all the pieces of the map put together.

I'm curious about one other thing ... for those of you who frequent Dundalk ... I have never seen even one prospect there ... what intersections are you normally picking SW's up at on Dundalk?

Checked out the block last night. Slow, since the weather was so nice ... no one, including the dancers wanted to be there. But, that made for some good deals! $40 for HJ including the price of the drink. So, for the block, that's not too shabby.

Happy Hunting.

Midnight

04-16-03, 12:58

Went out last night around 10pm on the Wilkens/Carey/Washington loop. Saw one skank on Washington, but there were a few girls on Wilkens. After cruising around for a bit, I picked up a 30ish brunette named Cindy who wanted $30 for half-and-half. She was enthusiastic on the BJ, and not bad otherwise. I generally prefer them somewhat younger, but I wouldn't mind dating Cindy again.

She did say that several of the girls who used to work on Wilkens are currently in jail, so the available population is smaller than you might expect. This matches up with my perception that the girls I'd seen last summer/fall are no longer out, although the career of a SW is transient.

Saw three reasonably attractive girls on Washington as I was clearing the area, including one girl I thought I recognized named Tia (short-haired brunette) who hasn't been around lately. If it is Tia, she's one of the minority of girls I've seen who is willing to do Greek. I may go looking for her again sometime soon!

Bradman

04-16-03, 17:43

Perrito is spanish for little doggy.

Bingo

04-17-03, 00:14

As always appreciate the old-timers here who share their hard earned experiences. This hobby is pretty damn addictive, went out again last night - nothing in the Brooklyn area, thought I'd try Wilkens/Wash for novelty and picked up an ok dirty blonde young waif, kind of ugly in the face but what the hell during BBBJ you don't really see it anyways huh. Still haven't worked up the courage for anything more than BJ out on the open streets - will try some local motels next for FS. From what I've read here $25-$30 should be about right for a short-time motel?

Also been wondering - how is it that everyone knows the same hunting grounds? especially pre-internet, like how did word spread?

I figure

Hypothesis - most girls hang out within walking distance of where they can score.

Experiment - I'll try cruising some drug havens, although it's a bit tough finding predominantly white ones, and you do stand the risk of being hassled by police simply for being white in a black drug neighborhood. Brooklyn and Hampden fit the bill nicely, but there's gotta be others around B-more. I guess there also has to be enough street traffic to make it worth the girls' while to walk around, too, huh.

If it works I'll let yall know.

Bingo

04-17-03, 00:19

I forgot this in the last post

Any advice on picking up women that are either walking in a pair, or walking with a man?

I swear I've seen some that are probably working by how the stare at passing traffic, but it seemed way too ballsy to stop and see, especially if she was with a guy. I can see how it'd make sense for the girl, though, to have an escort for safety (or a pimp for exploitation and extortion, or a boyfriend who's illing too and they're looking for some quick cash).

Any general advice here?

P.S. of course these girls always seem to be hotter and less skanky! maybe they're just walking to a club or bar to party...

Clix

04-17-03, 10:09

Bingo
Many a time these working ladies do have a lookout, could be female, could me male. They simply get the tag # of the car that picks up the working girl.
Some are working duo's also, but one must be careful as sometimes the pair act in tandem to rob ya. One keeps you occupied real good (hotel or room) while the other one takes the moment of opportunity to rifle your wallet etc.

Was out last night too on the Wash Wilkens loop from 10 till 1130
Saw a couple of decent ladies, but mostly skank.
Picked up an old faithful black girl named Sheeta, drug free,....who gives good head and used to have nice firm big tits on a decent frame.
Boobs have gone saggy, BO is becoming omnipresent, but head was excellent with the swallow finish.
Doubt I will see her again, but given the choices I saw or had available (the good ones I did see where scooped up by you other mongers before I could get them!!) Sheeta was the best available option.

Hey, have you all ever noticed that once you have gone and done your deed and take the girl back to drop her off, there seems to be a plethora of new faces on the street not present the 30-45 minutes before you picked up your completed "date".
Never fails for me. Seems like I have to pick one up for the others to come out in full force no matter the time of day....
just coincidence I am sure, but damn, it happened again last night.
Good Luck out there and be safe.

Incognito

04-17-03, 13:06

My buddy told me to post this:

Greetings board members. Question... Is it possible to get too much booty? I have had my hands so full of ass in the past two weeks I'm almost gettin' bored. All of my time hittin' the BLOCK and street huntin' is paying off big-time lately. Once again this proves that you must put your time in (and money) and do your research and be patient to reap the full benefits of this trade. A little luck helps as well.

Special shout-out to the Garbageman for providing me with another fail-safe alibi.

Here's a story: Last night I was on a scheduled date with one of my Blockette(tm) friends. She tells me that once a month she gets together with another well-know Blockette(tm) for a 2-girls show in a hotel room for one of her regular customers. The guy is old, like 75, and he basically watches and attempts to masterbate. He also gets on the floor to watch the girls piss, and then enjoys "sniffing" he ladies in the private area immediately following. He does not actually engage in any sex. Hey, to each his own, while I may not be sniffin' urine I certainly have my kinky desires. But get this... this guy is a minister at a local church. I wonder where he is getting his 400.00 every month to pay these chicks... from the collection tray perhaps?!? One more reason to avoid church (like we needed another?). At least he is just sniffing female piss instead of sucking off little boys like the rest of those holy dudes.

I am trying to get this friend of mine to get his own internet access but he spends all his money on other things. Sounds like he is having fun though!

praise the lord,
incognito

Razors

04-17-03, 17:20

Thanks again for the specifics on routes and locations, I too was having a hell of a time using the yahoo maps site to figure it out.

Looks like I'll finally get a chance to check out the B'more action (wife out of town) during the day next week.

Globe, here are those directions you provided again in case they are of use to anyone.

Originally posted by Globetrotter
Doc,

Washington Blvd. and Wilkens run basically parallel to each other ans S. Carey runs more or less perpendicular to both. My usual tour is to do that area once I am finished with Brooklyn, which I usually go to first. My Washington Blvd. run begins at Caton Ave. and I proceed north (towards Baltimore City). At the Monroe St. intersection, the park (it's called Carroll Park) begins on your left. That's the point where I usually start looking. I keep going past the park, cross S. Carey and continue a couple of blocks then turn down a few of the side streets to see if anything is happening there. When done, I go back to S. Carey (if you were still on Washington Blvd. going North, you would make a left on to S. Carey) and take that a few blocks to Ramsey St. and turn left. Ramsey will turn into Wilkens and I usually criss-cross the blocks around there and then continue South (actually SW) on Wilkens if I find nothing in the area. I then stay on Wilkens until I get back to Caton Ave. then turn left, back to Washington Blvd, turn left again and stay on Washington Blvd. to head to Downtown Balto. Washington Blvd. terminates on Martin Luther King so I usually turn let there and right on Baltimore St. to go to the Block or keep going using Fayette to get to the PP area. If you check it out on Mapquest.com, it'll start to make sense. Good luck! By the way, you are right about the area around Wilkens seeming a little rougher. I don't think it is really worse than the PP area but for some reason, I never feel quite as comfortable there as I do around PP. Be careful out there, there's a lot of bad shit going on all the time in most of those SW areas.

Midnight

04-18-03, 16:07

Bingo,

It's been my experience that a girl who is standing or walking with someone but is willing to be picked up will somehow manage to signal you -- usually by making eye contact and waving. If she doesn't make an explicit signal, I just keep going. I figure either (1) she doesn't want a "date" at that moment, or (2) she doesn't want the person she's standing with to know that she "dates", or (3) I've misread the situation and cruised a "civilian", or (4) she's undercover LE waiting to bag someone who tries to solicit her.

In none of these cases is it worth my time and effort to make a move. If I try to make eye contact as I'm driving by slowly, and she doesn't signal, I go on to someone else.

Many of the girls live in the area that they "work", so they might not want to be blatant in front of a neighbor about what they're doing. This goes double for the girls who only "date" occasionally -- while many of them say they don't "date" much, some of them are bullshitting. Still, there are a few who are telling the truth.

I've also been told that some girls have lookouts, but others don't. Personally, I try not to piss off anyone who is going to have teeth on a sensitive part of my anatomy, and I try to deal fairly so that repeat business becomes an option. I'm careful to take precautions, but I also don't try to rip anyone off. I don't want to get into any sort of grudge match with anyone, and I don't want anyone to be pissed enough at me to want to give me shit when I'm cruising. I've heard a few girls say that ripoffs are the reason they use lookouts, but I also figure that there are guys out there who believe in "sharing the wealth".

I've only been ripped off once in Baltimore, when a chick hopped out of my car after getting the money up front. If I'd been smarter and gone to a place of my choosing, it wouldn't have happened, but since I had "dated" her once before, I figured it would be OK. The lesson cost me $20, and it was cheap at the price.

Bingo

04-19-03, 18:32

clix and midnight,

Thanks for the advice. Situation hasn't come up again yet, but will try it out if the signals look right..

I tried out daytime action friday afternoon (2pmish) spent about 1.5 hours around Wilkens/Wash - halfway through saw a cute-faced brunette staring at me as I drove by on Wilkens but she was gone after I circled around - not really sure if she was working, was dressed rather well. A couple of teenagers walking in packs or hanging out in front of stores (who looked like they should still be in school!).

Finally at the end a cute-faced young blonde sitting on Wash near Monroe at the bus stop, staring and smiling when we made eye contact. Obvious junkie, funky teeth, but model-like face (if she didn't show her teeth) waifish heroin-chic body and great long blonde hair. Never did ask her name. Said she needed the money because she was feeling ill. She directed me to a parking space in this tiny little alley, plenty of visibility, surrounded by abandoned buildings with "condemned" posters stapled to the front doors. Sounds crazy but it felt pretty damn safe there (no danger if there's no people around!). Also it was cold outside, so our breath fogged up the windows - I was hoping that'd make it a bit harder for the casual passerby or LE cruiser to see that actual deed.

She worked enthusiastically on a nice BBBJ for about 10 minutes and then said she felt ill and was going to throw up and was I done yet. Oh well. Not wanting any trouble I just dropped her off and wrote off the $20 investment.

Circled around some more (it was about 3-4pmish now) but didn't see any other SW. Rush hour traffic started to pick up so I figured time to head home...

On the brighter (but non SW) side found an incredible looking 18-20 yo blonde "Brittany" at Club Harem late last night. Body of a goddess, works intermittently, seemed to be enjoying herself, bubbly personality, intelligent conversation, stares you straight in the eyes and grins mischeviously during a lap dance - intense! willing to please (for $$ plus bar fees), had what came as close to a GFE experience as you're ever likely to have actually in a Block back room. Unfortunately, she stuck to her rule about not seeing guys outside the club. Oh well, maybe that'll change. Highly recommend her if you guys wander by the Harem when she's working.

Clix

04-19-03, 19:33

Bingo -
Midnight is absolutely right on with his response.
Well put.

TrashMan

04-20-03, 01:37

Incognito,

You stingy fuck! Perhaps if you didn't hog all that pussy for yourself and gave some to your good friend then you wouldn't be so inundated and get bored and tired of it. I mean shit man, what are friends for?
Perhaps this is an early sign that you're getting old like me and can't cut it anymore so your body and mind are trying to convince you that you're getting too much ass. Here's a piece of advice...
Don't listen to either one of them and get all the pussy you can every day you can because it might be your last!

Glad to hear of your good fortunes my good friend and may they continue. I guess these made up for a few bad nights, huh?

Ol Seadog

04-20-03, 03:05

Finally made some time between working 2 jobs to make a speed run to PP on Thursday. My regular friend is in jail again so I was on my own and fingured I would try a different angle. My first stop was to a 'short time' friendly motel along Rt40 where I secured a clean although small room. I intended to get this out of the way and then hunt up a little fur. Just as I am closing the door my room phone rings and a throaty female voice asked if this is 'John'? No, I responded, but I could be......the lady said she would by right over.

About 5 minuted later I opened the door, after checking through the window that she was alone, to an hispanic brunette about 30y/o, 5'2" I would classify a 5 or 6. Personality was an 8 and fellas if you like nice round slightly saggy breasts with large areola and thick nipples this girl is for you...said her name was Rita.

We quickly agreed on $40 for 1/2 and 1/2 and I felt myself getting aroused as I watched her bend over and unhook her bra and those melons swung free. It didn't take long and I had to stop her BBBJ before I finished to soon (Think that is what she was trying to do) and was again inspired as she laid back on the bed and exposed her thick bush. I sniffed a little and after inspection I have to admit that I dove in face first to her enthusiastic response.

Finished the deed and she was in no hurry to leave...we lit a couple cigs and she talked a little about herself. Seems she has been staying at this motel for about a week and is new to the area having come down from NY. The closest to a GF experience I have had in quite a long time. She said she will be staying there for awhile yet and I intend to see her again this week if possible.

This is the first time in many years that I have been approched by a girl actually staying at a motel...used to happen all the time at the old Marylander though. I like this as it doesn't expose me to LE on the street which is a plus. ONly drawback I can see is that she may be a nut case or have a 'friend' that shows up later.

Hope this helps and good hunting...

Midnight

04-20-03, 19:34

Bingo,

While it sounds like you had some good luck with the spot that the girl chose in the alley, in general I'd warn against spots like that during the day. If you're going to do a "car date", you need to find a spot that is both out of sight of casually passing traffic and LE (which sounds like what you had) but also, if your vehicle is seen, it shouldn't make someone wonder, "Hey, what's that car doing there?". If LE drives by and sees a car parked in an alley with fogged-up windows, they'll figure out pretty quick what's going on. They do tend to check out little back alleys from time to time. They don't necessarily need to see you in the act to bust you, although it might be harder to actually make the charge stick.

I've had some girls suggest places that failed one or both tests, and while I usually suggested better spots, I let the little head do the thinking a few times. One time a girl suggested parking on a residential street around 1:30 am, and I thought, "OK, fine." Imagine my surprise when not three minutes later someone who lived in the area drove by my car, and he was pretty vocal about suggesting that we move along. I've also had a girl suggest a pretty full parking lot outside an office building a little after lunchtime in July, thinking that nobody would be out in the hot parking lot. That didn't work very well, either, although we didn't get caught.

In general, I don't think "car dates" during daylight hours are worth the risk. After dark, I can find places where my vehicle doesn't stand out as not belonging, and yet there isn't likely to be anyone else around. During daylight, I prefer to get out of the car. Sometimes, the girl will have a room or be able to get one that's reasonably safe for $5-10. Sometimes, if I know the girl, I can find a spot where we can get out of the car and walk to a secluded spot (this only works if she has faith that you aren't going to dump her in some remote location). I've also rented a room at a cheap little no-tell motel before, but that's assuming you're going to find someone to pick up -- if there aren't any girls around, you can't get a refund.

Always listen to your instincts. If she suggests someplace you don't feel safe, veto it. If you think something isn't right, change it. It's never worth the risk of getting busted or robbed. Take precautions -- don't carry too much cash on you, be aware of your surroundings, and keep your wallet in a secure place.

Mdam

04-21-03, 01:02

I've heard the name "red" mentioned a couple of times. Is that what she goes by or what you call her. I ask because about a month ago I picked up a red head on conkling and she was great, she took 35 for fs ( all I had, would have given more ) and 10 for the house. I can't remember her name and i haven't seen her since.

Dr.Monger

04-21-03, 01:50

Sorry for the disappearing act, but there has not been much to report. Actually, been out hunting a few times since the last report, but no dice. PP is deader than dead. Have done a few different cruises at different times. Also checked out Wilkens/Washington/Carey. Not much there except a really skanky SW under the bridge on Carey with a guy. She was clearly working. Also saw a SW much farther down on Washington, after Monroe. Definite SW, but a male o the other side of the street in close proximity. Didn't like the smell, so I passed. Brooklyn has been crawling with cops, and saw a really cute suspect one night talking on her cell while walking, but my comfort level in that area is less than zero so I passed.

Hampden as usually has available girls, but just the same old 4 or 5 pals. I need something new.

Trash: I think incognito was posting for his friend.

Dr. Monger

Cloud William

04-21-03, 18:09

Originally posted by mdam
I've heard the name "red" mentioned a couple of times. Is that what she goes by or what you call her. I ask because about a month ago I picked up a red head on conkling and she was great, she took 35 for fs ( all I had, would have given more ) and 10 for the house. I can't remember her name and i haven't seen her since.

If she had bright red hair, wearing something tight, and was on the corner near the graveyard that was her. I call her red only because I have no idea what name she goes by. I suspect anybody seeing her will realise "oh, that's the red he was talking about."

Clix has a point about girls showing up after you are done with another. Several weeks ago I was out hunting and had to settle for a so-so score. I had no sooner dropped her off when I saw a girl that I had had a very good time with before. Damn, where was she 30 minutes ago?
I also notice its unusual to see them again if you see them getting picked up by someone else. I figure they have their needed money and off they go to score some narcotics.

Cloud

Bingo

04-21-03, 19:46

Midnight - thanks for the advice. You're right I'd probably get away with it 9 of 10 times but it only takes that 1 time of getting booked by LE to really fuck things up. What I think I'll try is just cruising a few more times during the day, to see if there's a different cache of SW out (more/less attractive vs nighttime), and if there's really no difference I'll just stick to night. I have a theory (quite probably bogus) that maybe the less skanky girls work in the daylight for safety reasons, whereas only the desperate come out at night. Traffic's easier at night, if nothing else, and there's no "civilian" women walking home from the store to confound things.

Tried out the Wash/Wilkens area some more late Sun night (12mn to about 2am). Man there were loads of women out! Counting only WSW (to each his own, I didn't pay attention to any BSW's walking around) no less than 5 made direct eye contact w/gestures and another ~4-5 (didn't keep careful count) likely suspects walking/standing around. 2 LE cruisers rolled through over the hour or so I was there. Most pretty skanky. Picked up one on Wash which looked pretty cute when I was driving by at 30mph but shit when she got in the car, middle-aged, boils on arms and legs, bad teeth, looked wired on something, the works. Stupid me let her start on a BJ, I could feel her fingering my pockets and feeling in my car's ashtray/etc for money. Damn, gave her $10 so she wouldn't raise a ruckus and got out of there. Settled on a so-so short blonde for $20. All the industrial areas seem to make for nice parking spots, especially at night.

For fun ran through PP and Hampden afterwards (about 2am now), found 1 girl each place, at PP it was the first Hispanic SW I've seen if any of you are particularly into that.

MD Monger - maybe try cruising at different times of day, if home life allows. This may just be one of those things but the past 4 times I've gone hunting I've found someone (mostly 11pm-1am'ish, although Fri 2pm found something then too - not too great, mind you, but something).

Thanks to all for the helpful advice in this addicitive, dangerous hobby. Be safe all.

Chip_s

04-22-03, 07:48

Originally posted by Cloud William
If she had bright red hair, wearing something tight, and was on the corner near the graveyard that was her. I call her red only because I have no idea what name she goes by. I suspect anybody seeing her will realise "oh, that's the red he was talking about."

Clix has a point about girls showing up after you are done with another. Several weeks ago I was out hunting and had to settle for a so-so score. I had no sooner dropped her off when I saw a girl that I had had a very good time with before. Damn, where was she 30 minutes ago?
I also notice its unusual to see them again if you see them getting picked up by someone else. I figure they have their needed money and off they go to score some narcotics.

Cloud

She sounds like the girl who use to be on 14th & K in DC. She has Kool-Aid Red Hair, very slender, snow white skin, very small tits. She told me that she goes by the name of Ashley or Snow.

Midnight

04-22-03, 14:35

it's true that there's a different set of girls out late at night than there is during the day, but i wouldn't necessarily say that one is better than the other. safety is certainly an issue, but there are other factors at work, too.

demand is higher at night, since many of the potential customers are working during the day. some of the girls have to account to someone else, like a live-in parent, for where they are during the day, but they can get away with "i'm just gonna hang out" after dark. there might be issues of childcare, or a part-time job. during the summer, not a lot of girls want to deal with 95-degree heat.

it's certainly true that many of the girls are looking to make some cash for their next score -- i've had several girls ask to be dropped off as soon as they spot a dealer they know. i had one chick ask if i minded if she scored while riding in my car; i told her that she had to be out of her goddamned mind. while le might hassle you for solicitation, they'll fuck you up for either **** or for drugs, and i'm not about to take that kind of risk. i understand that many of the sws are on something, even if it's methadone, but they need to be able to keep that shit away from me. remember, too, that mr. condom is your friend!

also, some of the girls may stop for the night for other reasons -- they might just be tired, or sore, or they've finally gotten enough cash for whatever it is they need.

i've noticed clix's point about seeing different girls out when you're dropping one off and clearing the area. it can be frustrating, but it also happens sometimes when you just give it a rest for a little while. i've gotten frustrated with cruising and gone off to get a burger, and when i came back, there was a whole new group of girls out on the stroll. you can sometimes change your luck just by going someplace different and then coming back -- i often cruise down to brooklyn if the wash/wilkens/carey action is poor. if that doesn't pan out, then i come back, and there's usually some changes when i return.

planning some cruising for later this week, and i'll post about how it turns out.

Bingo

04-22-03, 17:47

Originally posted by dr.monger
Definite SW, but a male o the other side of the street in close proximity. Didn't like the smell, so I passed.
The smell might not have been re: LE but instead re: scam but can we/has anyone ever been be arrested for just pulling up on the sidewalk and letting a girl in?

Now I know that with the Believe campagin LE has increased rights to stop cars in drug-infested neighborhoods (e.g. two strung-out looking white guys in a 100% black neighborhood, or a Mercedes SL500 cruising through the same area) but still to arrest or search they need probable cause. If LE pulls you over with a girl in the passenger seat, even if she's an obvious and known SW, can they really take you in for that (no crime committed - yet)?

Of course if you're busted for a traffic violation or trying to negotiate a date with her through your passenger window that's a different story.

If the girl gets in the car, off you go, and she's letting you feel her tits or pussy, sounds like it should be OK to me (then the only things to worry about are disease, getting burnt, getting bit, getting robbed, poor service, getting caught in the act, having her accidentally drop something illegal on your car floor, and who knows what else... :-).

Again the smell may have been re: scam, but then again it'd probably be an ineffective scam cause you can drive and park anywhere you want.

Just wondering..

Louie_DePalma

04-23-03, 01:00

Have been surveying the Brooklyn area the past few days. Being a native NYer and one time hobbist. My driving around Baltimore makes me long for the old days (the 80s!) in NY when the Democrats ran the NYC. It was a free for all. Block after block of SWs, all providing a free show by wearing as little as possible. Black, white, asian, they came in all shapes and sizes. With a good 10 by 3 city block to cover, LE was token presence at best.

Needless to say, the scene is spotty. Earlier in the day, I spotted a very cute black SW with high scoring looks and body on Caton, north of Washington. I was putting gas in my car. I was astonished to see at least two cars pull up and wait for her. OK, she was definitely worth the wait.

This evening, at about 6pm, I saw a small cluster of three in the vicinity of Wilkens. I actually got lost and stubbled upon this little find.

The first was a real blocker. She lured me to the side street and she was an old, drugged out hag. She had blond (dyed) hair and a slutty look. Scarey to look at up close. Almost across the street a younger long dark haired version possed. She had really pretty blue eyes but a bit of paunch. The glassy look of her eyes immediately brought memories of being strung out, like I thought she was. I liked the looked of her.

Not 10 feet away, another young version possed while fixing her hair. I didn't get a real look at her but her body was more than passible.

It was too bad that I didn't have more time. I was lost and took advantage of looking over the area. It was a little on the rough side but then again...so am I. I am going to keep looking around till I feel comfortable. Just wanted to thank the guys on this site. Although being lost, your accounts guided me back to the highway...with a few detours.

Green Machine

04-23-03, 01:40

Gentlemen-

While I'm familiar with the Wash/Wilkens, PP and Hampden routes, I read some of you discussing Brooklyn action on a Fairhaven Street. Is this the same Fairhaven off of East Patapsco Avenue and parallel to Pennington Avenue, down close to Curtis Bay? Just trying to clarify because that particular Fairhaven seems a ways off from Wash Blvd.

Did the PP loop of Eastern/Conkling/Baltimore/PP around 11pm tonight and it was pretty slow. Those new street lamps around PP seems to really have dampened the action.

Took a cruise through Hampden and saw one girl at Falls and 36th in front of the pizza shop. Not sure if she was working but I would love to pay for that one. Young, cute, slightly curly hair - delicious looking. Took a ride down Falls and did see three or four SWs but they were preoccupied with walking the other way as LE was getting into something serious in front of a bar - as I rode down Falls, four other LE cruisers screamed down with their sirens and lights going.

Midnight

04-23-03, 10:47

Green Machine, that's the "Fairhaven" being referred to. It is a little bit of a drive from the Wash/Wilkens loop, so I don't go back and forth from one to the other very much.

Bingo, I don't know if anyone's ever been busted for just having a girl in the car, but I have been pulled over once by the cops and hassled when they recognized the girl I was with. They tried really hard to get me to admit what I was doing, but I stuck to my story of "I picked her up in a bar, and we're going to Taco Bell. She's a hooker? Really? I had no idea, Officer. I'll take her right back to the place we met and drop her off. I'd never dream of doing anything with a hooker."

They knew I was bullshitting them, and I knew that they knew, but they couldn't do anything about it. They checked my license and registration and made sure that there weren't any outstanding warrants on either of us, and then they told me to get moving. If there had been anything that they could have nailed me with, like "improper signal", I'm sure I'd have gotten a ticket, but I had seen them as soon as they saw me, so I kept my act clean. I made damn sure to get across the Baltimore city line after I pulled away, too.

About Dr. Monger's post re: the guy across the street from the girl on Washington Blvd -- I would have been suspicious, too. In my experience, SW usually keep moving on that stretch until they get down to the end by the golf course. I've seen many civilians walking that stretch on their way to someplace else, but I don't ever remember seeing a guy just standing at anything other than a bus stop along there.

Ebdawgg

04-23-03, 12:17

Originally posted by bingo
What I think I'll try is just cruising a few more times during the day, to see if there's a different cache of SW out (more/less attractive vs nighttime), and if there's really no difference I'll just stick to night. I have a theory (quite probably bogus) that maybe the less skanky girls work in the daylight for safety reasons, whereas only the desperate come out at night.

I'm not sure about that. I have spoken to women who come out very late at night as their kids and or husband are asleep or they're from the nighborhood where they're walking and don't want to be spotted by someone they know. I know it's just a guess but I might say it's the other way around - the part timers, sometimers and the occasionallys come out when they think only they and mongers are out. Sometimes too after the bars close you can find women who wouldn't consider themselves SWs but need a ride home or blew all their money at the bar and need some for groceries the next day.

Let us know as you test the theories. Happy hunting and stay away from those residentials streets...

Midnight

04-24-03, 02:20

So I finally got out tonight again, after some time away from it all. I started around 9pm in my usual area, the Wash / Wilkens / Carey loop, and while there were quite a few girls wandering, none of them really did it for me. I headed down to Brooklyn around 10, and it was totally deserted -- I saw one possible on Fairhaven, but she was not especially appealing. Did see a lot of other cars driving around the area, so perhaps I was just inadvertently following a crowd, and it was picked over by the time I got there.

I took a break to get a late hamburger and browse for a while at the porn store on Patapsco. Three middle-aged women came in and were laughing at the dildos... and then they finally bought an enormous one. Maybe there was a party or something -- I'm just as glad I didn't get an invitation.

Finally got back to Washington Blvd around 11:30, and the selection had indeed improved. One cutie got picked up at Washington and Carey just as I was coming around to pick her up, but there were at least four others out strolling. I quickly checked out Wilkens, and there were a couple of girls, but none that were better than a 6, so I cruised back over to Ramsey Street.

There was a pretty cute blonde at the corner of Ramsey and Carey, and I picked her up. Her name was Emma, and she was friendly, if a little spaced out. We negotiated $30 for half-and-half, and headed off to a spot I had previously selected. She was open to just about anything, so I asked if she did anal. She said, yes, but it would cost more -- when I asked how much, she said, "I'd need $50 to do that."

Needless to say, I was willing to splurge the extra $20, and soon enough, we were going at it. She had a nice bod, a little pudgy but none of those godawful tattoos that so many girls have. Next time I date her, I'll get a room someplace so I can get a better view of her during the act and possibly try some other positions, too.

After dropping her off around 12:30, I decided to see what the late-night crop looked like. There were only two girls on Wilkens -- one at Millington Street, by the church, and a really cute brunette at Pulaski Stret -- if it hadn't been late already, I'd have picked her up, too.

There were four girls on Carey and Washington, three of which I'd seen around there before, but the fourth was a very cute girl with long light brown hair who was just getting into someone's car at Washington and Bayard. In short, the late-night crop was pretty good!

Clix

04-24-03, 06:39

Lots of mongers out last night on the loop.
The ladies were plentiful, but scooped up so damn quick by you other guys that I every time I doubled back the good ones were GONE.
Eventually just called an "ole reliable" only to be less than satisfied with experience - I knew there was a reason I quit seeing her....

Just some food for thought here -

Anyway she told me that there was an article in the Sun in the past few days saying Omalley has set his sites on the Washington Blvd and Wilkens area for serious cleanup (due to a fair amount of murders etc).
I have seen and heard this routine under the old and new regime and the past results are temporary at best. However, during the period of the "clamp downs" LE does "f*ck" seriously with "the local gentry" and Johns and Ladies alike.
Did a serch of SUn, didn't see any article on line.
However, I thought I should mention it. If something looks a little fishy in the near term, it just may be.
Be safe and enjoy mongering!

Clix

04-24-03, 06:46

Just a note on the subject of times to come out.
A really interesting time, if you have the inclination to do it, is very early in the AM. From 5AM to 7AM there seems to be a standard set of ladies who come out just to be available for the guys coming off night shift and those going to work AND the fact that LE is not on "high alert" during those commuter times.
I have had stellar success when my ass can't sleep in, am horny, and just cruise up that way at about 5:00 AM.
Happy hobbying.

Bradman

04-24-03, 09:41

Hey guys,

This morning at 7:30, I went out looking for some in Brooklyn. Zero LE out, not many SW. On the way to Fairhaven I saw one possible, but since school was about to start, she might have just been a skank dropping off her kids. On Fairhaven I picked up Missy. Very young, would have had a cute face but for the acne. Did have a nice body. Wanted 50 for half and half and 10 for the use of someone's house. I was nervous at this house since there were several other people there (a woman, her teenage daughter, a kid, and a man). I almost left, but I figured nothing too bad would happen while a kid was there. We went into the bedroom and I kind of stalled till she was completely undressed (don't know what good that was, but it made me feel more comfortable). She had a really nice cooch, just a little blonde hair and shaped perfectly, very tasty. I ate for a while, then she sucked for a while, then came the condom and we did it. Her pussy was very tight and I had to stop a couple of times to slow myself down. At the end, I pulled off the condom and blew it all over her pussy. That is a beautiful sight.

She wasn't super enthusiastic, but did a nice job nonetheless.

Good hunting.

valuvr

04-25-03, 15:53

Hello fellow mongers,

First post and of course I am seeking help. I will be in Baltimore next weekend at Inner Harbor and would like to find some action I can walk or take a cab to. Are there any good amp or incall services? I read posts about The Block. Where is that and what can I expect to find. Also any help with expected rates would be welcome. I don't want to overpay and cause any inflation for locals.

Thanks for any and all help!

jjbooth

04-25-03, 20:30

I was crusing the Paterson Park playground, on the west side, came upon a mini van being emptied by Officer Friendly and his incognito friends who were also in an old mini van, all without any lights, just blocking one lane and moving fast, poor guy. So I came aroud the same area, and there was a cute, I mean cute blonde with hipp huggers and a star patch on her butt, in the same area. I passed and got a cheap look, but smelled a doughnut or two, then figured i would do another, then another, and thar she blows, another poor bastard getting the plastic cuffs and no blond.

Is that neighbor improving and LE is trying to clean up? If it's too good to be true.

Be careful

Bingo

04-26-03, 09:12

Funny that I was also out Wed night (4/23), but a bit later like 11p-1a, toured all 4 major areas (Hampden, PP, Wash/Wilkens, Brooklyn). Same sort of experience though in the Wash/Wilkens area 4 above average cute girls, gone a few minutes later.

Around 12MN there was some major LE activity on Carey 3-4 blocks N of Ramsey, lots of cruisers with their searchlights on and LE on foot looking for someone. Dunno what happened, didn't hear any gunfire.

Interestingly it made me feel safer cruising Wash & Wilkens since that whole serious thing was occupying their attention!

For those who haven't discovered it already (or found a better way), to tour PP, Wash/Wilkens, and Brooklyn most efficiently I like to start with the "clix loop" and then while on Caton Ave at some point take I-95 North to the Hanover St South exit. Cross that over the bridge down towards Brooklyn, circle there, and when done head back to Hanover St north, cross the bridge again, take the I-395 downtown exit and use Fayette or Pratt to hitch it over to PP. For getting back to Wash/Wilkens I like to use Orleans St, which splits in two (take Franklin), and follow Franklin all the way to Carey St and south back to Ramsey/Wash. Seems to be the fastest way, if you have to do all that travelling.

I haven't had the chance to go hunting in the daytime since the last time a week ago, so no new data there. The 5am-7am idea is interesting.

Have tried hunting 5 or 6 times now in two of the open air drug markets around town (Park Heights and Greenmount). I usually go late (after 10pm), when most dealers have gone in for the night. Many black SW candidates to be sure, but that's not my cup of tea. In all those times only saw 3 white women, all of which looked quite delicious (well, at 10ft away and 30mph at least) but all 3 were walking somewhere and keeping their noses down (probably to cop, or maybe home to shoot up). Oh well. I might try some daytime trips through these areas, trying to catch a girl who needs cash to score. Only trouble with these areas is that LE presence is ubiquitous, but then again they are focusing on drugs, and perhaps less on a girl getting into a random car.

Bingo

04-27-03, 10:17

jjbooth - scary. I still doubt (not a legal expert, though) they can cuff you just for letting a girl get in your car - and I really do doubt that decoys would go as far as regular SWs in pre-negotiating physical contact. Maybe the decoy was trying to negotiate a deal through the passenger window (wearing a wire) and the guy got busted.

The Block any B'mer cabby should know by heart, and I'd recommend cabbing because walking from the Harbor - alone - is not the safest, especially if you get slightly lost and have a lot of cash.

"The Block" is the 400 block of East Baltimore St. Check out http://www.thefoxfiles.com/usadirectory/USAReviews/dc_blockman.htm, which is now ~4yr old but still rings true in many ways (prices and tips slightly higher now). If you do go to the Block just plan out before hand how much you want to spend. It is very easy to blow >$1000 in a night if you keep partaking of the alcohol and the willing girls. Like the guide says, cash buys time.

If you're willing to pay 200 for a "bottle" plus another 200 in tips for the girl/bartender there are at least 3 quality bars where you are guaranteed to get FS from a true hottie in the back room - but it'll be 20-30min of rushed action, sometimes against a stool or the wall, sometimes with someone accidentally walking in. In some of the "skankier" bars (esp the Plaza) you can get it on for less, but the quality of girls varies.

In other words, if you're looking for FS, I'd recommend spending less money on one of the reputable escorts - better attitude, more relaxed, often times more than one bell ring per hour if you're up for it. However if you want to be a kid in a candy store and savor a rainbow of flavors, well, you can't beat the Block for that. Bring a wad of cash, though.

Ol Seadog

04-27-03, 14:38

Managed to get out again Friday evening the 25th. Begain raining like hell as I approached PP from downtown but did see a couple hardcore undersirable SW braving the weather. Must be tough to have to feed that huge monkey some of these girls have on their backs. Anyone thinking of trying drugs should just hang around the park and see some of these girls...pathedic.

Anyway, saw a cute small built blond on the corne of Conklin and Balto. I had been with her about a year ago and hadn't seen her since, she is a part-timer. The thing I remember most about her was she had a huge clit. Traffic prevented me from stopping or even making eye contact, damn rain. Naturally she was gone on my second pass.

Note to other mongers: I usually pull right to the curb even if the SW is on the other side. To many times if I try to find a place to double back she is gone.

Proceeded to Rt40 and headed east when I spot a slim blond, 5'2", 100lbs in her late 20s walking towards Haven under her umbrella. She hops in and I am somewhat dissapointed because her face doesn't match her body....looks 8 from the car but a 4 when she got in but her body was a solid 9. Went to the no-tell-motel and got a short time room. It was a real pleasure watching her undress....a winner for once. A little on the expensive side, she wanted $60 for 1/2 and 1/2 ( I usually go for $40 tops) but she was more than worth it and lingered longer. She seemed to genuenly enjoy herself, I know I did.

This is the first time I have seen her and she did not have a phone but I made arrangements to meet her next week...we shall see.

Good hunting....

Moe_Greene

04-27-03, 20:36

Originally posted by valuvr
Hello fellow mongers,

First post and of course I am seeking help. I will be in Baltimore next weekend at Inner Harbor and would like to find some action I can walk or take a cab to. Are there any good amp or incall services? I read posts about The Block. Where is that and what can I expect to find. Also any help with expected rates would be welcome. I don't want to overpay and cause any inflation for locals.

Thanks for any and all help!

I was a visitor too just a while back. Go to the Block. It is a short walk from the hotels in the inner harbor. You can get full satisfaction in almost any of the strip bars for about $$ or so. The bars are also nude with alcohol, thanks to some creative legislation.

I suspect that there are relatively few posts here about the Block because there is no risk/trick to it. This is perfect for tourists like you and me.

Good luck (not that you should need it).

Moe

Dr.Monger

04-27-03, 23:56

Several Scouting reports and a Cautionary Tale (LONG)

Have not had much time to post, but some time to scout, so here is a compilation of recent events, from oldest to most recent:

Things have been pretty dead in Hampden. Same old suspects, most of whom are mediocre. There is one Sw who I see out who must be late forties or 50s (hard to tell with SW, they live a hard life). Not my cup of tea. Did see an old school chum a few nights ago, and she delivered the usual excellent lesson, but I am getting quite bored with her, but as they say, any port in a storm. Other than her, Hampden seems to really be hit or miss at night. I have done a few daytime pass throughs, and seen only one girl obviously working as she gave me the look and a gesture, but I was on my way elsewhere, and she was not up to my standards anyway. I do not usually get to go early morning or mid-day, so perhaps that is the issue.

Did manage to do a daytime PP/Conkling pass through, and saw perhaps two of the best looking suspects I have ever seen. It was warm and one was clearly working, had on shorts and was in the usualy spot on Baltimore. The other was not clearly working, but I thought I saw her hop out of an SUV. When I came back through a little later both were gone, not that I could have stopped.

Did some Brooklyn/Washington/Wilkens loops recently, and observed a few things: Heavy LE presence on Patapsco. Not sure if it was SW related. Also be careful where you park down there. A friend of mine was innocently in the area, but apparently crossed into AA County which is right close by. He is not a hobbyist, but just mentioned in passing that a cop hassled him while he was pulled over trying to make a cell phone call, and suggested he leave the area and go home. He was by himself, and had apparently crossed the line into AA county. I think the AA cops must have less to do than the Baltimore police. Anyway, over two trips, saw a few definite SW, but pretty much skanks. One trip saw a very good looking blonde being hassled by a female cop, with cruiser pulled over and lights flashing. Girl was dressed from what I could tell like a SW, with a sexy outfit on. Also saw a SW further down on Patapsco, almost to Washington, but maybe a half mile before it on Patapsco. Had the white trash/skank look, but clearly working a corner where she was leaning up against a building fairly late a night, and gave me the eye. Proceeded down Washington, and saw an unattractive brunette in the industrial area. Went down to Monroe and did the loop twice but saw no obvious walkers. Went up to Hambden and nothing there either.

Had some free time one afternoon and on a lark decided to do a PP/Conkling run. Saw a VERY cute blonde in jeans with a tank top on sitting on a stoop talking on a cell phone, could not imagine she was working. Also a heavy brunette who was clearly working was out. Went down to Conklin and lotsa LE out, so headed back around to PP. The blonde was still there but was walking and talking on her cell. Still not sure I decided to circle as there were no LE in sight. Now she was talking to a very old guy on a stoop. Caught her eye but she did not motion or anything. Circled again, and stopped at the corner. She looked at me and started to leave the guy, but I felt uncomfortable and drove off. I decided to check the other strip and saw two suspects futher down, but neither up to my standards, and not as hot as the blonde. My curiosity got the better of me and I circled back, but this time on the opposite side. Well as soon as she saw me she waived for me to pull to the side street. I did, and she walked down and got in. WOW! By far the hottest, cutest, youngest SW I have picked up in my brief career. She said she was 21, I doubt it. More like 19. Wanted me to do the "I am not a cop thing". It was broad daylight, and I told her no, that once we got out of the neighborhood I would prove it to her. She said this was only her second time out (yeah right, where have I heard that before?) We went to the pentultimate secure location, as I was not going to do the car thing in broad daylight, nor was I going to pay $40 for a short time motel for a $20 BJ. I told her since I had a location a short drive away, I would give her lunch money in addition to the tuition payment. Asked me if I had a girlfriend or a wife. She said her boyfriend was in jail. Anyway, what a body on this chick. She was like all the hot young girls you see in clubs who won't talk to you. Thin, nice A cups. A natural blonde. Did not want to take her pants off, but did let me unzip the jeans to see the bush, which did not appear to be shaved, but confirmed the natural blonde. Nice attitude. Was genuinely flattered when I told her how beautiful she was. Skill was ok, but did not want to catch it in her mouth, and used hand, which was ok cause she had good technique and she was so hot I was not going to last long. Asked me to let her know when shangri-la apprached and I did. Just used her hand from there and she moved my shirt to avoid getting it messy! Cleaned up and she asked me could we do it again sometime, and could she have my number. We traded numbers, got back in the car and drove back. On the way, for some reason I decided to check her arm, as I was contemplating a more complete date. There it was. Collapsed vein. She pulled her arm away, and said in a very sad voice "I am trying to get help." I thought she might cry. Words cannot express how bad I felt at that moment. She was young, beautiful, and I had just enabled her. I know if I had not someone else would have. I am sure others I have picked up have the same or similar addictions. But with cold weather, the arms were always covered. At that moment however, it hit me hard how sad the whole thing was. She should have been in college, or working in a mall somewhere, having fun with her friends. I have never referred anyone for addiction treatment, so I will have to find out about some programs in case I see her again. Then I began thinking about the other problems involved in intravenous drug use, some of which might now be mine, including Hepatitis. Not trying to scare anyone, or to preach, just letting you in on the thought process. She had another handicap I won't discuss, which just made me all the sadder, as it seems life had been pretty cruel to her in general. I have no doubt I will hobby again, as the little head is stronger than the big one, so please, no flames. I am human, I felt guilt.

Dr. Monger

LexLuther

04-28-03, 08:34

Dr. Monger,

That is indeed a sad story. Somewhat beautiful in a way as well for the compassion which you felt for her. I'm not trying to be a wise ass or anything, but I think if you got to know any of these girls you would find that they all have similar stories. At one point in their lives, many of them could have taken a route which would have led to "normal lives". The saddest thing is that for most of them, that point is when they were very young, because it turns out that a very large percentage of prostitutes were sexually abused as young girls.

So you might imagine that in her case, the abuse may have led to depression. She began to self-medicate which eventually led to the use of addictive injected drugs, and now she's on the stroll. But I think that in one way or another, the story probably applies to escorts as well and even to girls who work in AMP's.

I'm not trying to preach either. Personally, I don't do SW's, but I am a big fan of AMP's. But the girls who work in those joints have some very sad stories to tell as well. It's sad but true and food for thought.

On a lighter note, I'll be in the Balto-Wash area this week and checking out the AMP scene. Anybody tried a girls in VA called Cindy the Massage girl? She's Korean and works out of her home.

LexLuther

Paland

04-28-03, 14:26

Dr. Monger.......

I met a similar girl a little over a year ago. I found myself wanting to help (usually a lost effort). Got her in a program and could talk to her for the first several weeks but then the program cut any and all communications from her. As I understand it that's kind of normal. Ever so often I pray for her knowing it's all up to her.

For reasons I don't want to get into I would do it again and probably will.

Dr.Monger

04-28-03, 18:11

Paland,

If it was in the Baltimore area, can you pass along the info on the program to me back channel? Thanks. My e-mail is posted in several of my reports.

Dr. Monger

Slag Runner

04-28-03, 20:43

I tried something a little out of the ordinary in late February that I have not seen mentioned in any earlier posts on Balto.

On a very cold weeknight I picked up a cute 30 year old by the name of Kelli at Lakewood and East Baltimore on the North side of the park. I did not have a room and as we talked I had the urge to move beyond the car date BJ. In a stroke of genius I drove down to Broadway and we went into the Apex Theater.

The place is dark as hell and the two elderly clerks working in the lobby charged me and let her in for free. Not a raised eyebrow or question as to our intentions.

We went into the theater, sat on the left side up against the wall and played around for about 30 minutes until Kelli got down to business. Great bbbj followed by her on my lap with a covered reverse cowgirl. There were three other dudes in the theater at the time. One came over by us and asked if he could join us. I said no, not now, and he moved away about 4 seats and watched. Never saw the clerks until we walked out and they were still behind the cage in the lobby.

After we were done I took her to her home and got her number. Have seen her once since in a downtown hotel and had a great full session. She has twin boys who stay with her x-husband two nights a week so she uses her evenings away from the kids to pick up some extra money. Claims not to do drugs. If she does, she is not the leather handed crack head or wired speed freak type. Pleasant, conversant, witty, intelligent.

SR

Paland

04-28-03, 22:17

dr. monger.....

no it wasn't but i will get some info for you......

Clix

04-29-03, 06:46

On the issue of helping the SW ladies.
I wanted to post early, but resisted.

We all have sad stories. Few are born Rockefellers - and even the Rockefeller's have sad stories to tell.
Hell, if I told you mine, I could have you in tears. I was not sexually abused as a child but I have addictions. A female addict need not be sexually abused to be an addict. Do not kid yourself.

The issue is really, what is one doing today to improve themselves.
I know many a former SW who have recovered from the seemingly hopeless state of addiction and alcoholism. Most recovered SW ladies, believe it or not, will tell you flat out that they were not abused in their youth like the media and anti porn anti prositution groups will lead you to believe. However, while using, if they can connect on a level with a John to evoke an extra buck to feed thier addiction, then they will use it. Certainly, there are cases of same, but it is not universal by any stretch. The addiction requires money, how to get the money when you can't hold a job anymore? you know the progression.....
All alcoholics and Addicts are liars cheats and theives - period.

I am not unfeeling toward their dilema and share everyone's sentiment for the position the ladies have gotten themselves into. The addiction is the evil. Treatment programs? Do they work? Well, they are a business. Do not fool yourself into believing they are anything else other than spin dryers where many are out to make a buck from our foolish, but perhaps well intentioned, government largesse and system.

Do they help some get clean and sober, yes but as a rule over 70% of them willl be back using again within a year. They dry the user out. The rate of recivitism is worse for alcholics believe it or not. Why? From my experience, and others, the most sucessful method, bar none (well there is an exclusion in the time of lincoln called the Washintonian group, not for discussion here), in the history of mankind, to MAINTAIN sobriety is to embrace the grand daddy of 12 step programs which happens to be financially free.
Good spin dries and therapist will admit it is the best method to gaining and MAINTAINING a living which is free of alcohol and drugs. Spin dry programs with a modicum of integrity will be the first to admit they get the user dry.....it is AA and NA which must be part of thier life for the long term if they have a reasonable chance of staying clean.

So, what do I do to help the ladies? If I detect the real sense that the lady wants to get clean, I will drive them to various Clubs in the city which are sober houses and/or give them directories/schedules and locations of Meetings. Meetings are held there. Will they stay and try, most not. Why? Because they are unwilling to actions which they do not believe in and would prefer to stay in the situation they are in because it is familiar to them. They stay in control of their own demise rather than try to embrace something they do not understand. Why is it that nearly 95% of all recovering addicts and alcholics all have AA or NA in thier lives....cause it works, if one embraces it.

I have been flamed before for stating this position cause so many normal people think NA and AA are BS. The comedy routines on TV etc feed into this percepetion to most people. Normal people don't get it, cause they don't have to.

I am not flaming anyone here and hope I do not get flamed either. I believe in the spirit of concern and active concern for another person's welfare= love. Keep doing what you are doing and one may learn to help themselves, if they go to meetings.

Go to some meetings yourself. As a normal person, you may say this is nuts cause you don't have the addictioin. But I suggest if you really want to help a lady, go to a meeting, talk to some people, tell them why you are there (nothing surprises them....hell they have been there), grab some dircectories - sometimes 0.50 somtimes free, and put them in your glovebox. When you find someone who you think wants to help themselves, give them the directory. Maybe they will use it, maybe they wont. Ya can't force them. We can provide the location where the tools are. Only the user can get themselves clean and sober. The door in the mind of the user which lets them "give up on their screwed up thinking" can only be opened by the user themselves not by government agencies, spin dryers, or johns trying to be a good samaratin.

I hope all do try to help, but be aware that the chances are slim that one's efforts to help another will be successful.

Just my two cents.

Paland

04-29-03, 09:20

clix.....what you said is worth much more than $.02

can't help somebody until they are ready for help

the 12 step program really does work (for most people)

that's my $.02

Doesn't it make you think "who the hell are we mongers" when here we are trying to help a sw that is dependent on drugs that gets us what we want......sex.........because she is addicted and needs money that we have and if we help her maybe she won't be addicted then she won't need our money and we won't get what we want.

But I sleep better knowing I have helped some people.

Bingo

04-29-03, 09:23

Ah, the "white knight syndrome", aka the "rescue fantasy"

Like many others I too have fallen prey. I suppose it's worse among longer-term prostitution arrangements, like repeated visits to an escort or especially with some Blockettes.

After two personal experiences agreed with clix's message that a girl seeking to get clean needs to want to with every fiber of her being, or it won't stick. Enabling someone's recovery (driving to meetings, paying for methadone, paying for drugs so a girl doesn't have to work on the Block) doesn't help the girl in the end - although it may soothe the conscience of the man.

Paland - I think it is standard for programs/counselors to try and cut ties with all pre-clean activities / people, frustrating as it might be. Even though we were just trying to help, truth is we still paid them for sex at the beginning and would only be a constant reminder of the life they used to lead. They know how to find us if/when they're ready.

Dr. monger - depending on the program you're interested in, several suggestions. I'll stick with heroin/cocaine abuse, not EtOH. (a) inpatient, intensive detox / rehab: Hope House in Balt, Pathways in Annapolis. Costs over $350/day! (b) methadone maintenance: many programs around Balt, use google.com to search, some are public-funded (free) but therefore have 2-month waiting lists, many others are self-pay ($80/wk) (c) short-term outpatient detox, again many in Balt (google.com) esp "Dr. Hayes's" clinic at U Md.

Agreed with clix though that (a) and (c) above are usually failures without some sort of post-treatment support network. (b) by its nature can keep girls heroin-free (not cocaine free), but coming off of (b) requires the same network.

Too bad "Pretty Woman" just isn't possible in real life. Come to think of it I can't even remember if the movie ever said why Julia Roberts put herself out there. I guess showing her with a crack pipe or a tourniquet on her arm would decrease the audience's adoration, huh.

On a scouting note, Sunday night (10p-12mn) made 2 loops but didn't pick anyone up in the end (again, only counting WSW, not BSW). Getting pickier with time, I guess.

Wash/Wilkens: 4, all on the 12mn loop around

PP: 2, 1 was way overweight and had this ruddy face, whoa
Brooklyn: saw 2 on Fairhaven, 1 of whom was rather cute (young thin blonde) but missed her on the turnaround.

Falls: 2

Ebdawgg

04-29-03, 11:49

The recent conversations have been interesting. I would though like to add something if I may. This certainly isn't directed to anyone in particular; just what came to me when reading these recent posts.

SWs have nasty jobs but so do plenty of others; construction workers, farm workers, hell even your BMW mechanic's job is something most people wouldn't want to do. Many of these people were forced into or born into a situation that requires them to do crappy stuff just to get by.

The big difference here is that we see and know the SWs; the migrant farm worker or underpaid drywall crew or garbageman toils for us out of sight so that we may eat well, walk into a building that was built on time and under budget or have homes where we don't have to think much of trash removal. For the monger, the big reason he gets to have fun with some cute 20 year old that wouldn't give him the time of day otherwise is a combination of drug addiction and economics. I have a friend who fantasizes about the college girl call girl/stripper/SW who is very clean, comes from a nice middle class family and is only doing this because whe's wise to what men really want and is doing this for the money or for fun. I'm sure she's there somewhere but she's just not the reality for many sexworkers. If most women aren't doing for men the things that they can get from SWs, then surely there must be some compelling force that makes this job/life the choice (as it were).

Everyone here has treated this conversation with respect so all I really want to add is that in some ways your relationship with the SW isn't really so different, for better or worse, than the relationships you have with plenty of others. We eat well in the U.S. because, frankly, someone else has a crappy job and lives in a way we wouldn't want for ourselves and especially our children. Helping a SW with anything from a meal to a good recomendation for substance abuse treatment is really a kind thing; it's only a shame that we have to see things up close to really feel like we can help. Sadly, it doesn't really balance things out and mongers must, if they ever think about it, move on from it one way or another (ie: don't do it or don't think about it...).

In the end though it still adds up to the same thing: mongers only get to monger because someone else is in worse shape. That seems a good reason to treat the SWs nicely and with some respect and, if possible, drop off a 6-pack to the guy who keeps the chevy hummin'.

OK; so do we fell better? Then happy hunting, cause these poor girls wanna go get high...

TrashMan

04-29-03, 20:09

Well know with all this sensitive shit I have been reading I feel like having a nice demitasse latte. All kidding aside, Clix and Dawgboy have impressed me with their rather excellent command of the written word as well as their well thought out responses that make perfect sense and are far more mature than my usual shot-from-the-hip crass comment, but guys let me say this more for the benefit of the younger less experienced less hardened ( no pun intended ) mongers...THESE GIRLS ARE NOT YOUR FUCKIN' FRIENDS! Nor will they ever be nor do they wanna be! They are out there for one reason and one reason only to remove the most money they can from your pocket. Don't EVER believe otherwise for when you do that's when you're gonna get hurt my friends. Either with a razor knife to your neck or balls or a nice stab in the back of your heart. Yes, they are people and as such should not be abused, but the minute you cross the line from getting a nut to caring, you are fucked and eventually you WILL pay the price. Don't do it! Don't do it! Don't do it! They are not your girlfriend, your buddy, your confidente, or anything other than your *****, PERIOD! Boys, trust me on all this. I have been down the road and made all the mistakes, including this one. I had a little ***** I was seeing weekly in New York. 19 year old Israeli girl. Super petite hard body, beautiful face, often stayed the night with me, started having breakfast with her in the hotel the next morning etc etc. I woke up one day and came to my senses as I was looking through my old lady's jewlery for a "present" to take to this girl the next day when I left for New York and realized "What the fuck was I doing?" What I was doing was falling for this girl in the deluded belief that she "liked" me. Right! A 19 year old and a 50 year old, oh yeah, you bet! Luckily I reaced back, took a big shoehorn and pulled my head outa my ass! Now I realize we're not talking exactly the same thing here, but one thing leads to another when you forget rule #1, they're ******!

Dr.Monger

04-29-03, 22:17

And here I was, going to write a nice piece about how no one had flamed me...then I saw Trash's post...let me address everyone by saying the following:

Trash, I agree, she is not my friend, she is not a girlfriend or a lover. I am in complete and total agreement. She is doing a job, and if you call her a ***** you are right. Nevertheless, she is a human being, and in that moment, I felt a tremendous surge of compassion. Am I a sucker and a sap? You bet. I also well up at sappy tv commercials...so what? Do I get taken advantage of because of this? Absolutely. Do I mind? Usually not. Any why not? Because it makes ME feel better. I mean that is what the hobby is about right, making ME feel good? I had mentioned earlier that this girl was also handicapped. I hesitated to say more, because I just felt it inappropriate, but given the discussion below, I think it safe to mention it and explain how it affected me. You see, I believe the girl I picked up was deaf, at least completely on one side, and at least partially on the other. She spoke with the speech pattern of one who is deaf, as I have heard it many times before. Yes I know she had a cell phone. I believe she has some hearing, but it was clear she was not hearing everything I said, based on some comments she made the were not responses to what I asked. As I posted below, before I saw the collapsed vein, this girl could have been the girl next door, or the prom queen who beat out the head cheerleader because she was the nice but just cute girl in class. She was that cute and innocent looking. Her personality was great, she was friendly, smiling, not spaced out or drugged up at the time. It was clear at that momen that the she had been dealt a bad hand, and I felt COMPASSION for her. Do I care about her? No. Did I imagine myself sweeping her off her feet, helping her out of addiction and getting a hottie girlfriend? No. Did I want to help her if I could? Yes. The difference between her and a lot of the higher class escorts (who I have seen upon occassion) is that for the escorts, it is usually a conscious career decision to go into escorting based on economics, because they can make more on their back then you and I do at white collar jobs (if you don't believe me, do the math, and allow 7 days a month off for period and/or rest). This girl clearly was doing what she was doing due to an addition, not an addiction to money like an escort, but due to a bad choice somewhere along the line to do drugs. Who knows why she started, I don't and it doesn't matter. How many of you smoke and can't quit? Does it matter how you started?

I would like to thank all of you who did not flame me and responded with stories or support. Trashman knows I greatly respect him, his position and his tremendous mongering abilities, and I take his comments with due regard, and advise all to heed them carefully. My post was not a love story, just an attempt to convery a point. I guess the moral is don't ask, don't tell. Morbid curiosity made me look. If I see her again, (which I am not sure about right now), I will just see what happens.

Dr. Monger

LexLuther

04-29-03, 22:27

Trashman,

Amen to that trashman. When all is said and done, no matter how she got that way, no matter how sad her story, no matter whether she works the stroll, whether she is an escort, or works in an AMP, she's a *****, first last and always. And more than likely she'll always be a ***** no matter how much sympathy you have for her and how nice you are to her. She's a ***** and basically that means that her main goal in life is to separate you from as much of your hard earned cash as possible.

If you forget that for a minute, you will become a victim. I too have learned that the hard way. But I do think it's interesting to think a bit about how these women got themselve into the positions which they occupy, which is basically the lowest rung on the ladder, the lowest link in the foodchain.

LexLuther

Globetrotter

04-30-03, 01:06

It's interesting to see how many of us older, more experienced mongers, have been involved in similar situations with wanting to help out SW's that we felt compassionate towards. It's easy to do and it happened to me with a couple of them. In my case, they were blockettes and I got involved in relationships with two of them over the course of five years. One relationship went on for almost three years and I even became involved with the girl's family. Many times along the course of those five years, I really thought I had fallen for these girls. Both were heroin addicts and I saw them both go from being beautiful young women to emaciated and hardened women of the streets who would do literally anything to get enough money for their next hit. It was indeed sad to see and I spent much money trying to get these girls into programs - but all to no avail. You see, the reality of it all is that the only ones who can help them is they themselves. Unless they have hit rock bottom and truly are determined to beat their addiction, there is no way in hell that you are going to make them change. I spent a small fortune on these girls, tried to show them there was a better way, took them on business trips with me - the whole nine yards. At the end of the day, the only thing that really mattered to them was getting another jackson for their next fix. They were hard lessons to learn for me but I finally did learn. So guys, trust Trashman and other mongers like myself who have been around the block a few times when we tell you - DO NOT GET INVOLVED! It's not that I don't feel bad about them anymore, it's just that I've come to my senses and realize that any effort I might make in that regard would be wasted. Treat them nice and with as much respect as the situation allows but don't ever trust them and delude yourselves into thinking that they perceive you as that special someone or their knight in shining armor.

Just thought I'd add my two cents worth to this thread.

Clix

04-30-03, 07:43

Wow -
Great posts on a off subject subject!

Funny, last night I picked up a stunning blonce, 20 year old blonde, Vicki walking near Monroe and Wilkens. Has a two year old kid. Claimed she lived in AA county and only comes up this way once in a while (never seen her before, so maybe possible).
Good service, but not great, cause of paranoria on her part of LE surprises. Should have gone to a no tell motel instead of a knob job in the car. I would see her again, but the typcial BS about how rough life is......and all in her mind....follows some of the recent topics.

I would like to state uneqivocally, that ALL women are W*****...not just SW. In some way shape or form they all want something from you in return for the bush. Some of the Vegas escorts, in particular, I have been with, D&D free, are super ladies and fun to be with. At least in Nevada, the profession of Prostitution is just that, a profession. I can have, and do, have reasonable freindships with those professionals just as I do with my doctor, my auto mechanic, or my administrative assistant. Do I get emotionally involved, as friends or business asscociates do, at times with them, perhaps I am concerned for their welfare, but generally only offer my time in the form of an ear or advice. Not the case with SW cause they are addicts.

The issue with SW is not that they are ******, they are see my statement above, it is that they are ADDICTS. Addicts will do exactly what has been stated by others below. Substitue the word addict for the word wh*** in most places in the previous posts, and I beleive whole heartedly with every post provided on this current thread.

That being said, I did what I often do, provided an ear to Vicki, not that she is a friend or the like. SHe is not a professional, she is an addict who sucks di** on a regular basis to get her money for drugs....been stabbed, thrown out of cars, has an abusive boyfriend, you name it we have all heard it....do I let it suck me in, NO.
I gave her a directory ($0.50) as I stated I do and actually talked with her for about a half hour after the deed, prior to her gonig to get her fix. Did it help, doubt it. But I will try if I see an inkling of genuine "I want to stop". That is not too much to ask.

Another aspect which probably escapes most of you about carrying directories with you which can get you out of a jamb. Having a directory is an excuse for looking or being with a SW.
First case, caught cruising an area by LE......you can state with all truthfulness, you are looking at how it could be and why you (I) do not drink or drug anymore. Second, if you are caught in the car with a SW, the statement that you are trying to discuss the potential of helping her and discuss what meetings to go to. The directory comes in very handy as "proof". Most LE may accept it, albeit begrudgingly, but they know that is a "good thing" - which it is- that many zealots in 12 step programs actually do on a regular basis. I have been let go more than once in both cases by just having the directory as evidence and the intent in recesses of my mind. Trust me, I am out for a nut and a nut only. But I am not stupid either, I don't want jackpots.

A directory serves two purposes then....it allows me to provide some compassion to another human being who is an addict and it can assist in getting me out of jackpots.

All in all, I loved the posts recently. Remember, Trash is right...don't get sucked in....business is business.....I transact business with ladies who are SW, AMP workers, Escorts etc.
I do not embrace them into my personal life.

Any new mongering reports now?
clix

Ebdawgg

04-30-03, 08:56

Originally posted by TrashMan
my usual shot-from-the-hip crass comment

Trashman,

Comments like yours are why many read the boards in general and your posts in particular; keep 'em comming. Shoot from the hip like a crazyman; it's always worth the read.

No one should get the wrong impression; I just don't want anybody to feel GUILTY. Things are crappy all over and just 'cause someone is slingin' garbage or suckin' dick doesn't mean that the person who's trash is picked up or who's dick is sucked does anyone any good by feeling guilty. That's one of the reasons I mentioned the other professions.

Hey I trust my mechanic and treat him well ( that occasional 6 pack ) but I don't have any relationship other than professional and I always check my car for missing items and double check the itemized bill. He wants my money too. Service providers should be approached with both respect and caution.

Always be careful. Most of my posts have been tips on stings and info on the local scene and other ways to stay safe; mongers aren't always likey to be aware of the dangers of what they're doing. Many don't want to believe that they're getting p#$$y because that little hottie loves to get high and sucks the crack pipe more than she sucks anything else.

I agree that you shouldn't be taken in by SWs (addicts); I've known plenty of addicts in my time and SW or not most have been big problems. Even people addicted to overeating that I have known have been prone to slimey drug addict like behavior. Always exercise extreme caution with ANY addict. Think what you will about the particular addiction but know that undesirable behavior will follow. For instance many mongers are sex addicts and, from the perspective of wives and girlfriends (who's the lucky guy here who has BOTH?), the mongers are engaging in undesirable behavior. Mongers will lie, slyly siphon money from the household and break marrage vows. Now if they're willing to do that for a little p#$$y, imagine what someone would do to avoid the excruciating pain of withdrawl and to satisy an insatiable hunger for something that is strongly addictive.

Lastly, if the crippled girl in a previous post is the one I am thinking about, I have it on good authority that she and her sister are BOTH HIV+. I have only seen one crippled SW in the area and have been told by a number of sources that she has been + for a while and may have the full disease. Also, I don't know much about the deaf girl, though I have seen her around quite a bit and have witnessed her in arguments with her boyfriend, but if you see a BLIND SW, stay away. I understand that untreated syphilis is the cause.

So, like I said earlier - happy hunting. Go help some of these poor girls out; no matter what we say they still want to get high.

Paland

04-30-03, 09:27

dr.monger.....you got mail

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this subject is a bit personal for me. I have a very close person that has been clean (sober) of drugs for two years as of last month. She hit bottom and wanted help and there were people there to help her. It was a long 15 years on that roller coaster.

Now having said that I do think there is some middle ground between some of the posts here, maybe my philosophy is the same just saying it in a different way. I have no illusions of sw, who they are, what they want and they probably will never change. I just don't get emotionally involved BUT if I was to see one reaching for help I would offer that help BUT from arms length. Like any good doctor/lawyer/other professional will tell you, don't get to close or your judgement will be comprimised.

(and then you may lose your patient/client or do more damage)

Bingo

04-30-03, 09:47

Great thread folks. A lot of sense and experience (perhaps earned the hard way) on this board. It's a powerful fantasy - rescue this young nubile girl from the mouth of the dragon, and she'll fall in love (and, maybe, be forever grateful i.e. lots of willing sex, served up when and how you want it).

Back to scouting - again, many SW out last night 10p-12mn. Just went through Wilkens/Wash (7 or 8) and Hampden (1, wrinkly face, ok body) on an abbreviated tour. Reading through the last year's worth of posts, it sounds like the SW climate goes up and down - some posts mention weeks that go by without seeing a single SW. Is that true? It's hard to imagine, with a 100% kill rate the half dozen times I've been out last month.

Settled on one thin blonde on Wilkens near Monroe, wearing her jammies (no undies of course). Once she was in the car, definitely cute, definitely high on coke or some other stimulant. Not very good technique, kept coming up for air and asking if I was close, but it only cost $10 (as high as she was she wasn't a very good negotiator). This morning I wish I'd rented a short-time motel and taken her for half and half, her body was pretty good and at 11:30p last night it was hard to find a secluded parking spot (lots of locals out on their stoops or walking around).

Where do you go for a short-time motel in the Wash/Wilkens area? A search of this board revealed some suggestions for the east side of town and for Ellicott City ... but E.C. seems pretty far away from that area.

Clix

04-30-03, 21:14

Where do you go for a short-time motel in the Wash/Wilkens area? A search of this board revealed some suggestions for the east side of town and for Ellicott City ... but E.C. seems pretty far away from that area. [/i][/QUOTE]

Short time motels are found south on Washington Blvd about two miles + past Caton. First two, owned by the same establishment, are located first - on the right is Beltway Hotel and Diner and on the left is something like White Horse Hotel or something....

They are a little high for your basic fun time but OK...Tims hotel further up the road is about 25 bucks for an hour and they sell condoms at the window, uncomfortable beds etc......further on south on route 1 in Elkridge, are Executive Motel and a bunch of others. for no tell motel Tims is your best bet.

Hope that helps.

Ebdawgg

05-01-03, 11:36

In today's Sun paper in the Maryland section there's a story that's an example of what could go wrong getting too close to providers.

The old man in Dundlak who's body was found in his house the other day was murdered by a women he occasionally paid $20 to have sex with him. He used to bring her to his house and then sometimes drop her off by Patt. Park.

I knew of tow other guys who got close to SWs and brought them to their houses; SWs started coming by day and night looking for "a date" and even started telling their friends about each; the "friends," some these guys didn't even know, started coming by offering services. Needles to say this caused some stirs in their neighborhoods and both eventually just moved out.

It's good to be kind and respectful but this is nasty business; so NEVER let your guard down and ALWAYS be aware of who you're really dealing with. I might probably say the same to SWs as neither side usually knows the other well and this hobby can disguise lots of other bad behavior.

Good luck, stay safe, happy hunting and read the paper...

rip3138

05-01-03, 13:10

Trashman is always so political. HaHa! I recently found the two girls who I had mention on earlier post about having three somes with and that was an amazing session I had with them. I ran across them again and it turns out they are girlfriends (lesbians or bisexuals), but most strippers or SWs bisexual. The one really cute blonde that I mention on that post started taking drugs and now she's having a lot of neddle holes on her arm. But, by looking at her face she's a clear 9. It's sad to see what she has become and how she was before. However, being a monger like Trashman I ignored that fact and went ahead with another 3some session. This time it was a bit shorter and not as fun but its always nice to see 2 girls get it on. Also this time they provided with her their addy and number!!!! Except one of the girl has a boyfriend and he's real annoying. Everytime I call he claims they aren't there so I'll try again and when the girls pickup everything is cool. But, honestly at that moment when I saw her again for the 2nd time I really felt like helping her. I even made suggestions to her on how to get off the streets and get away from her addiction. Even went as far as to offer her help, but she didn't care too much. It's like our gf's offering us help not to cruise around!!! Like Trashman said to me once, once you become a monger there is no turning back. I even tried to stop crusing and stop coming to this board but I constantly find myself thinking and eventually coming back here!

TrashMan

05-02-03, 00:07

Doc,

You're being way too sensitive. I'm not flaming you nor are any of the other posts here flaming you. And, I realize that you're not writing a love story etc etc. per your comments. Simply pointing out the facts for the less well advised or inexperienced as to how easy it is to move from caring to caring too much. I did it so I know and as you can see from other frighteningly similar posts here others have as well. You all know that I am the first to defend strongly all these girls rights to respect and dignity and advocate strongly that they should never be abused. It's fine that you and clearly others here have empathy for the less fortunate as do I, but it's a very fine line from that to getting involved either emotionally or otherwise and when you do, it's a HUGE mistake. Have your fun with these girls in the time honored triple F tradition of Find 'em, Fuck 'em, and Forget 'em!
I'll be honest, when I'm shoving my cock down some young tramp's throat, I'm only thinking about how to shove it in deeper, not how I can help her and I'd be willing to bet that everybody here does the same in that regard. If you really wanted to help one of these girl's then simply pick them up and give them money without making them perform sex for your enjoyment. Trust me, she isn't sucking your dick and swallowing your cum because it sexually gratifies her, especially when your load is probably the 10th that night.

Ol Seadog

05-02-03, 11:07

Hello all, have been reading with interest the latest thread regarding getting personally involved with SW and want to offer my 2 cents....

NEVER, repeat, NEVER get personally involved with providers. I have been hounding the streets for a number of years my fellow mongers and it has been my personal experience as well as my observation that it never works out....period!

Case in point: How many times have you known a SW to get busted, spend several days (months) in jail (thus be clean of drugs when they get out) and the first thing they do is turn a trick and shove a needle up their arm. There are,of course, exceptions...I only personally know one girl who got clean and stayed clean and the only way she did it was to get to a halfway house attend meetings and change her lifestyle, ie; stop turning tricks. Most importantly, she had hit bottom and had the desire and will to change. She is one out of perhaps close to a 100 that I have see repeat the cycle. To paraphrase another monger here, 'She has to help herself...we are enabelers(sp)'

Drugs and prostitution are self perpetuating..they live off each other. It is a horrible life and yes I do feel sorry for most of these girls and do sometimes feel that I am taking advantage of their misery....but I also understand that by being a monger I am introducing myself into the food chain. Hum, let's see, who is using who here?

Just my thoughts guys...be safe and goodhunting

Bingo

05-02-03, 18:13

Originally posted by ebdawgg
I knew of tow other guys who got close to SWs and brought them to their houses; SWs started coming by day and night looking for "a date" and even started telling their friends about each; the "friends," some these guys didn't even know, started coming by offering services.Scary thought. Funny last week I was wondering to myself how cool it would be to live in Hampden or around PP, where you can pick someone up as an after dinner treat.

Nevertheless I'll probably continue to have blockettes or escorts in my home, and if a hot SW is willing to take the 30min ride (which I doubt - I figure most want to get back on the street to score, or avoid going home with a john out of common sense) I'd be willing to pay $50 for a few hours of flat out action, in the comfort and safety of my own home. Maybe I feel safer because I live in the way suburbs, and they'd *really* have to go out of their way to come knocking on my door. Of course I don't have any cash or jewelry lying around, nor would I blame anyone but myself if something disappeared into a girl's pockets...

BTW clix thanks for the no-tell recommendations.

Be safe,

Dr.Monger

05-03-03, 01:33

Trash: Perhaps flame was the wrong word...I have said it before and I will say it again - I respect you and your opinion greatly, and bow to you as the king of the Mongerers...looking forward to buying you that beer we talked about BC.

Anyhow, I don't know how the topic of getting involved with SW came up, since I only said I felt sorry for her and wanted to help. Things kinda exploded from there, so let me get back to a scouting report...DEAD DEAD DEAD. That is PP, COnkling and Hampden on my last nighttime run, with two passes of PP/Conkling at different times...clearly daytime is better for PP/Conkling...perhaps it is because all the yuppies are not home in their gentrified houses to call the cops.

Dr. Monger

The New Guy

05-03-03, 16:35

Report on Brooklyn & Washington Blvd. Saturday @ 1:00 pm. This is my first trip out so bear with me. I followed Globetrotters directions on a route to take you through Wash blvd up to Brooklyn coming from the block which were very good directions. I went down Washington Blvd. to S.Carey st and hung a right there and drove under the underpass and through the neighborhood on the left and saw nothing. (Is this even a spot?) Also drove all around Washington Blvd and the side streets and saw only two crack heads out (are the SW's normally right on Wash Blvd or are they off the side streets and if so which sides of wash blvd are they on?).

After this i went down Wash Blvd which was blocked off and i took some road which took me to Patapsco Ave. near the Taco Bell and i made that left onto Patapsco. I followed it to the Wendy's and 7-11 which was where i was told is the beginning of Brooklyn. (Are they normally on the side of Patapsco or off on the side streets in the neighborhoods because i drove through the neighborhoods on both sides of patapsco near the Wendys and saw nothing. It just looked like a residential area. I also drove down Fairhaven st and it looks the same to me? I only saw the two in Wash Blvd and one crack head at the 7-11 in Brooklyn. Am I just not seeing them or what.

Also, where is PP, Conklin, and all the other spots i hear so much about. Are they near where I was. I am not familiar with that area of town so if anyone can give directions from say 695 if thats easier or just simply from Wash Blvd. if its near there. I might try the Wash Blvd and Brooklyn later tonight to see whats up. Any help would be appreciated.

TrashMan

05-03-03, 20:25

Doc,
Glad to hear you're not pissed. I know you have head screwed on straight. Lots of guys don't and I do think it's beneficial to all to read about stuff like this thread once in awhile to refresh our memory and teach the newer fellas. Obviously a thread really strikes a chord once in a while for a reason and this one did. Good stuff.

New guy looking for where PP and Conkling etc etc is located, do a little more research. Read older posts and there is a plethora of info with really detailed routes. Also, ever heard of Mapquest? Use it. You'll catch on.

One of these days my old lady is gonna get out of town so I can get away for more than an hour or two and howl at the moon with all my buddies and sluts in Baltimore. Until then, I guess I'll just hafta jerk off.

Chiron

05-03-03, 23:58

Got a question for any AMPer's out there. Has anyone been to the Pinetree Massage? They've got an ad in the new yellow pages that follows the form; open till midnight, private rooms, table shampoo. Anyway, they're on Eastern Ave, would appreciate any more info.

I took a trip around PP last night (Friday) around 11:00-11:30. Not a creature was stirring.

Razors

05-04-03, 01:04

For the 'thenewguy'.
I did one thing and learned another that made figuring out routes etc easier. What I did was purchase an ADC guide of Baltimore, a great aid for someone not familiar with Balimer. What I learned is that PP stands for "Patterson Park", not Potapsco Park as I had been assuming.

Originally posted by thenewguy
Report on Brooklyn & Washington Blvd. Saturday @ 1:00 pm. This is my first trip out so bear with me. I followed Globetrotters directions on a route to take you through Wash blvd up to Brooklyn coming from the block which were very good directions. I went down Washington Blvd. to S.Carey st and hung a right there and drove under the underpass and through the neighborhood on the left and saw nothing. (Is this even a spot?) Also drove all around Washington Blvd and the side streets and saw only two crack heads out (are the SW's normally right on Wash Blvd or are they off the side streets and if so which sides of wash blvd are they on?).

After this i went down Wash Blvd which was blocked off and i took some road which took me to Patapsco Ave. near the Taco Bell and i made that left onto Patapsco. I followed it to the Wendy's and 7-11 which was where i was told is the beginning of Brooklyn. (Are they normally on the side of Patapsco or off on the side streets in the neighborhoods because i drove through the neighborhoods on both sides of patapsco near the Wendys and saw nothing. It just looked like a residential area. I also drove down Fairhaven st and it looks the same to me? I only saw the two in Wash Blvd and one crack head at the 7-11 in Brooklyn. Am I just not seeing them or what.

Also, where is PP, Conklin, and all the other spots i hear so much about. Are they near where I was. I am not familiar with that area of town so if anyone can give directions from say 695 if thats easier or just simply from Wash Blvd. if its near there. I might try the Wash Blvd and Brooklyn later tonight to see whats up. Any help would be appreciated.

Globetrotter

05-04-03, 02:45

New Guy,

As I indicated in a previous post, Brooklyn is a fairly widespread SW area. You were right when you were on Patapsco and Fairhaven. Much of the time, they can be found right on those streets but you have to keep your eyes open and be alert. Often, they are just siting on front steps of private residences, other times you can notice them walking down the side streets coming off of both Patapsco and Fairhaven. You just have to keep driving and looking. It has happened to me that I've gone to Brooklyn and was unable to find anyone but it's rare.

With Washington Blvd. it's pretty much the same story but on a smaller scale. The primary pickup area is Washington Blvd. itself, about two blocks North and Two blocks South of S. Carey. Then, try S. Carey itself on both sides of Washington Blvd.

Good luck and be careful.

Clix

05-05-03, 08:27

New Guy,

Gotta add a few more cents -
Washington Blvd is good hunting ground all the way between Carey and the Golf COurse (at Interstate 95), not just Carey, although area of Carey is an area of coming out so to speak and from Desoto to Caton on Washington Blvd is a good hunting ground at dusk till sunrise.
Monroe from Wash to Wilkens is also a great walking area of ladies coming down to Wash, so check it out on the "loops".
Wilkens from Monroe to Desoto is a very very good hunting ground also, 85% skank, but I have gotten some excellent jewels there too. Don't limit yourself to Washington Blvd. There are other great section in the area, but I will be damned if I can remember the street names, just the street locations.
Get a map for security, but do some driving around and you will become accustomed to the Loops as the ladies main areas will present themselves.
clix

Pole Bearer

05-06-03, 23:09

Hey All,

Lived in the area for quite a while, but your tips have helped a lot. This is my chance to share with you.

Went cruising down Washington Blvd, Monroe and Wilkens about 4PM today. Spotted 4 SW's on Washington between Patapsco and Monroe, and 2 more near the school. An additional 2 were on Wilkens south of Monroe. All looked a little skanky--was short on time and didn't see anything worth taking. SW's passing by the Montgomery Ward facility don't seem to make active eye contact until the get out of the area (past the I-95 bridge, or along the MTA depot).

Want to pass on a recommendation: cruised Wilkens about 3 weeks ago about 9PM and hooked up with a late 40's SW who goes by Karen. Cute face (but looks late 40's), OK body and a sweet smile. She didn't want to talk money, did the R U a cop thing, and actually stated that she only wanted me to give her a "fair" donation for her rent when she was done. While she was far from burned out (nice to see in the 40's) I got the impression that she was being cautious so no one knows she is out there.

What recommends her: she is not only gentle and really loves perfroming the service, she also has a mouth like velvet and can gulp to the point of kissing your hip--if your ask her too. She really acts like its a labor of love--or a fun hobby.

She says she lives out of the area and works the area there (mostly around Wilkens and Monroe), and won't give a contact number. Keep an eye out for her: she is well worth it. Was happy to take just $20 for all that she gave me.

TrashMan

05-07-03, 23:03

Late 40's? Are you fuckin' kiddin' me man? That's pretty freakin' old for an SW. Personally I have a rule not to fuck anybody older than half my age. At that ratio, I'd have to be near a hundred to fuck that broad! And the street ages the hell out of these women. Question, did she take out her teeth and give you a gummee?

Chip_s

05-09-03, 05:30

Originally posted by TrashMan
Late 40's? Are you fuckin' kiddin' me man? That's pretty freakin' old for an SW. Personally I have a rule not to fuck anybody older than half my age. At that ratio, I'd have to be near a hundred to fuck that broad! And the street ages the hell out of these women. Question, did she take out her teeth and give you a gummee?

I know a couple of 40 yo s/w's that have better bodies, give better head and have better attitudes than some of the ones in your age range.

Ol Seadog

05-09-03, 08:47

Hot off the wire......glad to report that the Conklin & Balto Streets area is alive and well. Past by the other evening about 6ish and there where several lurking. Guess the change in temps has something to do with the action. That makes twice in the past week, seem things are looking up.

Good hunting and be careful...

Ebdawgg

05-09-03, 13:34

Just curious - how does what we say about different areas affect where LE starts to crackdown? I don't think I've notived any pattern but we give away lots of info here and we all know that LE reads these boards so I wonder if we are increasing the intensity of the cat & mouse game that mongers like to play. Any thoughts? Any chance we can steer action towards places that LE won't care about.

Ol Seadog seems to have had some luck but recently I have seen PP/Conkling/40 as dead as I have seen it in 20 years.

Also, has anybody here ever told a provider "oh you got a great review on..." or "make me happy or I'll post about you on..."?

Good hunting this rainy weekend.

Green Machine

05-10-03, 17:47

EB-
I'm certainly no expert but while LE might patrol these boards searching for new information, it doesn't seem like any here is giving away anything other than what is plainly obvious. When it comes to SW discussions, most mongers do the "clix" loop or PP or Hampden - places that LE is already well aware of.

On top of that, the detailed posts about specific girls seems just the tip of iceberg when it comes to the SW population - meaning that there are more girls out there than we can keep track of. Over the years, you see them come and go. Plus, the continuous tide of drugs flooding the streets of the city ensures a steady stream of new and continued SWs.

Perhaps if the government can find some way to control the abuse of drugs in society the SW population would decrease, but I'm not sure about that one.

On another note, I took a tour of PP and Hampden last night and it was pretty quiet around midnight.

The New Guy

05-10-03, 19:32

Finally went through with it. Thanks to the info provided by everyone on this board i finally picked one up.

Cruised by PP around 5 pm on sat (today) for the first time ever but there was a jazz festival going on so i didnt see anything. Went down E. Baltimore st. and saw two 40's SW's but didnt go for it.

Drove over to Wash Blvd and cruized under the 95 underpass and there she was, body was a 9, face was a 6. She was 24 yrs old and went by the name Michelle. gave a great bj for the right price. She said shes out several days a week so if you see a thin blonde that has a killer bod, go for it.

Hopefully many more reports to come.

Globetrotter

05-11-03, 23:40

Did a Brooklyn run on Friday PM, and the place was really jumpin! SW's all around on Fairhaven - it was like a freakin supermarket - first time I've seen that many out in such a short period of time. Drove around a while before spotting one I really liked. She didn't go for it at first but after three or four drive by's, she finally came to the car and hopped in. Did the usual are you a cop bullshit and went on with our business. Asked her why she didn't respond on the first few times I drove by her and she explained that a couple of those times the car in front of me was driven by undercover LE. Gotta be careful out there guys. One thing I usually try to do is not pick up anyone when there is a vehicle coming up behind me or within sight in front of me. What I do if there is any action around is simply pull over to the curb and wait until no cars are in sight, then I make my move. That's a fairly simple thing to do on Fairhaven and most of the surrounding streets but not so easy in other places, such as PP and Conklin. Girl I picked up was about a 7, called herself Dakota and was an excellent BBBJ provider. I should also mention that once she got in the car, I noticed another vehicle pull out behind me about a block which went wherever I did. It sort of freaked me out because I made so many turns, there was no way this car could have just happened to be going where I went. I made it a point not to stop as long as I saw the car behind me and after about 10 minutes of this cat and mouse game, whoever it was finally gave up - probably figured I made them and wasn't going to stop and do anything as long as I had them in my sights - still, a bit of an unnerving experience though. Afterwards, hung around Brooklyn a little more and ran into one of my recently discovered favorites named Wendy. She is blonde, good body (about an 8 overall) and only about 19 but she really gets into it and seems to be doing it as much for the sheer pleasure of it as for the money. She has none of the body marks usually associated with druggies and seems almost too good to be true. Did our thing and I ran out of time so didn't get a chance to check out the action on Washington and PP/Conklin.

Dr.Monger

05-12-03, 01:02

Recent Scouting reports:

I have not posted much lately because, quite frankly, there has not been much to post about. However, recently I have had time to do some scouting, with mixed results.

PP/Conkling remains down from the level of activity there was in the cold weather, which perplexes me. Perhaps the better weather means more mongers, and thus fewer girls, or perhaps it is the increased LE activity in the area. I did see a very hot SW recently, but I could not stop. I was not sure she was working until she changed corners, and then went up to a door, but was clearly not going in but rather was checking me out. She then returned to a corner where she stood. She was blonde and thin the way I like them! I was actually going somewhere in the area, and when I parked she was on the corner. I said hi as I walked by and she said hi back. She was older, and a little more worn than I first thought, but she had that porn star look I like, minus the breasts (they appeared to be small). I saw her again the very next night (wearing the same clothes apparently - small hygiene concern there), but she was talking to two guys on the street, and was in a slightly different location. She and one of the guys walked off, so I circled around. I saw the guy walking a few minutes later, but no sign of her. Maybe he is her dealer, who knows. But she was out at almost the same times, so I will try again another time. The rest of PP was pretty dead. I did a very extended tour, back and forth between PP and Hampden. Hampden was dead too. I did see several suspects on Eastern near Conkling, which is usually dead. Perhaps the LE heat has forced them south. Certainly less LE than Baltimore St. I counted at least two definite SW and three additional suspects during my ride. One seems young and hot on the first pass, but a subsequent pass showed her to be not so cute, and sitting down so I could not judge the bod. Third pass made me glad I did not stop, as I am trying to keep to 7's and above. I feel like Ahab, searching for the white whale...lol.
Things picked up a little as it got later, and saw a little activity on Conkling. Nothing that interested me. Finally as I was about to quit I saw a suspect but after a pass, and coming around, I would up right at the corner where she was b sheer luck. She was wearing a baggy dress, and the face was maybe a 6 or 6.5, so I passed, despite her availability. I was just disgusted with PP at that point. Headed up to Hampden after that and it had really picked up, and there were at least 5 SW out during my scouting at that time. Thought I saw an old school chum, but she stubbornly sat on a stoop each time I passed. She even waived. Finally I got on the right side of the road, and she was walking towards me. She hopped in, but it turned out it was not the pal I thought she was, but another whom I had had a less than great time with. As usual, she seemed extremely unhappy. Off we went. She remembered me for some odd reason, even though it had been a while since our last tutoring session. The tutoring was barely adequate. The usual tuition payment was made. None of the other girls out were worth even a second look. I think I need to get my comfort level with Washington/Carey/Patapsco up, I think those areas may be more fruitful for nighttime jaunts.

Dr. Monger

Green: Was that you in the beat up Mailbu? Just kidding. I was out around the same time and in the same places last night and it was very dead.

TrashMan

05-12-03, 01:24

Chipster,
While I can't disagree with your statement because undeniably there are some older ones that look good, but rarely are they SW's. Usually "girls" that old are well kept escorts. And it's true the older ones do have more experience and possibly have some "skills" younger ones have yet to learn. Personally, I enjoy the shit out of watching a young girls eyes bug out when teaching a really young inexperienced girl how to choke down my cock and not puke when I come in her throat! But, hey, that's me.

Ol Seadog

05-12-03, 11:25

Originally posted by ebdawgg
Just curious - how does what we say about different areas affect where LE starts to crackdown? I don't think I've notived any pattern but we give away lots of info here and we all know that LE reads these boards so I wonder if we are increasing the intensity of the cat & mouse game that mongers like to play. Any thoughts? Any chance we can steer action towards places that LE won't care about.

Ol Seadog seems to have had some luck but recently I have seen PP/Conkling/40 as dead as I have seen it in 20 years.

Also, has anybody here ever told a provider "oh you got a great review on..." or "make me happy or I'll post about you on..."?

Good hunting this rainy weekend.

I really doubt that what is said here effects the way LE patrols an area. Over the years I have known a few LE and they have always said that they primarily respond to neighborhood complaints about SW. Also if there is really alot of complaints then not only does regular LE step up patrols but also unmarked LE and drug units set up in the area because as we all know SW and drugs go hand and hand.

The PP area is on the upswing value wise and they have a strong community assoc which works closely with LE. They want the SW out of the area period as they see them as bringing down property values and attracting drugs and undesirable and increased traffic (like us) to the neighborhood.

Those who remember the PP/Eastern area 20 years ago know that it was far safer then then it is now and the quality of SW was far better. The good thing is that the prices are about the same now as they where then.

I link the increase in crime, drop in quality directly to the introduction of crack cocaine to the streets....what a mess it has created.

Just my 2 cents.

Ol Seadog

05-12-03, 11:40

Was out and about on Friday evening about 6pm and had the crap scared out of me. Picked up a SW I had studied with on other trips and as we where heading to the no tell motel I saw the lights come on behind me. It was an unmarked LE and as I pulled over my companion muddered , "Oh Sh** I'm dirty". Seems she had just visited her dealer and hadn't used yet when she saw me. LE got her out of the car and told me to get the hell out of the area after hasseling me a little. I gladly took off and frankly I intend to lay low for a while.

I report this here just to remind everyone that no matter how much experience we have, sooner or later we all experience a mental lapse and a bad situation could develope. I was lucky this time.

The law of averages is in effect fellow mongers.......so be careful.

Hugh Jardon

05-12-03, 14:49

Last couple weeks have been great in Brooklyn. I've been superhorny for some reason and the timing has been good because there's plenty of talent out in Brooklyn. Found a real cute 27 year old at 8:30 AM last Thursday. She could gobble a nob, too. Isn't that a great way to start the day?
Anyway, I can't say the rest of the ones I've picked up have been so good, but a nut is a nut.
When cruising the Patapsco/Fairhaven/Pennington loop, don't forget Curtis St. It's one way, opposite Pennington.

Ebdawgg

05-12-03, 16:21

GM & Seadog,

You guys are probably right and the lack of SWs in the PP/40/Conkling area is likely due to plenty of things other than what we say here. GM's probably on the money when he said that we don't tell LE anything they don't already know. But I was curious and I wanted to hear what some experienced mongers thought. Per Seadog's comments about LE responding to complaints I'm still wondering if mongers could steer the action to places where there would be fewer complaints - like the area behind Bayview. What the hell, nobody lives there so nobody can complain. What if mongers started telling SWs to hang out over there? Just a thought but if everyone was on the same page maybe things would be easier all around.

Interesting comments about the neighborhood then & now. Any old timers remember going to the North Avenue Motel after picking up a SW at the Little Tavern that used to be on The Block? Anybody ever been to The New or The Drake? Ahhh the old days...

I saw very little activity today during an extended scouting mission through Dundalk/Holabird Aves & PP/40/Conkling. I did see one hot little brunette on Conkling but that was it. I did see LE presence on baltimore by haven and one SW was talking about the sting going on today. I didn't see any LE action but she was hightailing it out of there and moaning about the sting all the way.

Happy hunting.

Pole Bearer

05-12-03, 19:25

Hey ebdawgg,

Your idea about Bayview is good, but keep in mind that most SW's like to lure in populated areas for their own safety (perceived or otherwise). Once you pick them up and they feel comfortable, then going to Bayview for exercises usually isn't a problem.

Most SW"s I know don't like to lure mongers near deserted areas. The risk of being grabbed and hauled-away (unnoticed) are much greater, and the SW's know it.

Pole Bearer

05-12-03, 19:31

Picked up a very cautious SW named Nikki (says she's 20) near the Wendy's on Patapsco in Brooklyn. Did the UA cop thing, and still took 5 blocks of driving and talking to loosen up. She has a nice body, and got half/half for 40.

Get this: I had protection, but she insisted on using her "ribbed" raincoats. Enjoyed herself, and was very personable afterwards. She likes to wear thong undies (but dresses in long sleeves and pants), has somwhat pale, freckled skin, dark hair and hazel/blue eyes. Claimed to have worked the DC streets, before moving back to Baltimore area. Keep prices with her in check. She'll try for high prices, but gets reasonable if you stand your ground.

Pole Bearer

05-12-03, 19:37

Globetrotter has good advice about being tailed by a potential LE. If in doubt, go south (in Brooklyn) or west (in PP) towards the county line), or just drop the girl off promising to be back in about 10 minutes, or another time if the heat seems on. LE usually has a limited area (and limited time) to deal with you. Be patient and calm. A little gas usage usually goes a long way.

When in doubt, let her out--politely. Be cautious. Stings in Baltimore are going to be a more common thing, because now they "believe"--get it?

TrashMan

05-12-03, 22:31

Seahound,

Betcha that shriveled your dick worse than a cold bath, huh?
I'm glad you told us about this because it points out how easy it is to either get complacent and start to forget to be vigilant or how easy it is to simply not see the mother fuckers no matter how careful and good at spotting them that you think you are.
You are pretty fortunate that they just scred you a bit and told you beat it. A bigger prick could've really fucked you up if they wanted with a trip downtown to the pokey, a night in Baltimore's finest accomodations, and maybe even a fond farewell to your wheels. All that if you're lucky. Add in an explanation to the old lady or maybe a drug charge and you're one sorry sumabitch.

Still and all...I'll definitely still do it! Lesson to you newer fellas, this is an object lesson for why we say leave the beer goggles at home when practicing street mongering. We usually talk about that in terms of accidently picking up pigs or nutjobs, but I think it's equally important for staying off the radar as well. Glad it all turned out well my friend, I enjoy your posts.

Green Machine

05-12-03, 23:49

I just had to chime in on this one!

Dr. Monger-
How did you know that was my Malibu!?!

A couple of years ago, I was trolling the PP area and took a shot down Route 40, which is something I didn't normally do. But I saw a decent looking SW on 40 just past the Crown station. She's the one with the black hair and the crippled walk. The small head was talking too damn loudly for my own good and I picked her up right there on 40. It was past 11pm.

Took her around to a quiet spot and proceeded with a BBBJ. It was pretty good even though I never really feel relaxed in the car. For some reason, I pulled her up because I wanted to ask her a question about something I can't remember anymore and then the light hits us in the face. Holy shit! What the fuck?? All I could see in the driver's window was a dark figure and a flashlight in my face and someone yelling to get out of the car. I was about to punch it and dig out when I was able to make out the BPD shield on the uniform - I'm fucked.

The cop gets me out of the car and my pants are barely on. I don't know what the fuck to say as he's questioning me what are we doing. I really don't want to incriminate myself by telling him I'm getting a blow and I don't want him to get pissed off by telling him that we're just hanging out talking. I end up not really able to tell him anything. He eventually checks my license and registration, gives a stern warning, tells me to get the hell out of there, drop her off where I got her from and get out of town.

I guess he really couldn't do too much to me since it really did look like we were sitting in the car talking when he hit us with the light. The cop must have followed us and walked up the alleyway because as I was driving out, his car was parked a block away.

So fellow mongers, anything can happen no matter how experienced you are. Be careful and think with your brain. I was so frazzled and my little head was thinking so hard that I actually was trying to get the SW to suck me off as I drove her back! Stupid and dumb.

Keep your senses about you!

chariiesx

05-13-03, 07:52

Just read an aricle in todays Sunpaper advising that surveleince
cameras are on Washington between the city line and 95
for observation of "nucience crimes"

Bradman

05-13-03, 15:20

Hey Guys,

Decided I wanted to get some this morning so I checked out PP at about 10:30 (Tues). Nothing. Squat. Zip. On the upside, no LE. I headed down to brooklyn and there weren't many SW, but there was LE everywhere. I think they were doing a sting down on Fairhaven. At the far end, there was an area blocked off with cones, a large van and some cops. Also, twice as I was driving the area, I saw people in crappy cars talking on radios. No Sw on Fairhaven. It really sucked. I was all ready to get a good fucking, and now it's just me, Rosie and her five friends.

Be careful out there.

Dr.Monger

05-13-03, 18:14

Originally posted by chariiesx
Just read an aricle in todays Sunpaper advising that surveleince
cameras are on Washington between the city line and 95
for observation of "nucience crimes"

Well, a more complete reading of the article suggests that the cameras are for the most part not monitored. Additionally, most simply feed to a video tape which is not reviewed unless there is a crime being investigated. The tapes are recorded over every 14 days. Here is the link for those who wish to read it:

http://www.sunspot.net/news/local/bal-md.cameras13may13.story

Dr. Monger

Dr.Monger

05-13-03, 23:14

Two reports

1) The Dangers of Internet Surfing!!! After cruising the internet looking at some escort sites and some porn, got incredibly worked up. I mean I needed to POP!. And FS too. Went out and did another extended PP/Conklin circle, mainly because I wanted to look for the blonde hottie I had seen out two nights in a row. Unfortunately, I never saw her. LE prescence, as usual lately was much higher than when I first began scouting. Be careful out there. Saw quite a few suspects out, but with many of the normal girls from East Baltimore looking so trashy, sometimes it is hard to tell...lol. Plus the regular yuppies who live by the park are usually pretty hot. Saw one girl walking with a baseball cap and either tight leggings or long bike pants. Great legs. She gave me the eye but kept walking. Later saw her walking the opposite direction, but with a small white platic bag, probably from a convenience store. Again, more eye contact. Never saw her stop anywhere and just hang, so probably not working. Saw lots of other suspects, including a hottie with her hair in a ponytail, but she was walking with a much older dude (she was about 20-22, he was about 50 or older). Not sure what was going on there. Saw a few definite SW, but nothing I wanted to pick up. Had my hopes set on the blonde. Finally decided she was not coming out, but saw a definite SW towards the end of my search. She had on sweats, had a cute face and was hanging more than walking. After getting to a corner where she was, she walked towards the car but seemed unsure. She seemed young enough, and I motioned her to get in. Not great once she got in, but I was so worked up I threw all standards to the wind. She was the first girl who asked to touch me to make sure I was not LE.
I had decided earlier I needed to pop my SW cherry with regard to FS. Went to a good location, where I asked her to strip. Big mistake. She told me she had a kid 2 years ago, and it showed. Too horny to care, I pulled out a condom, asked her to get me harder with her hand, put the condom on and did her. Turned her around and took her from behind. At least her p***y felt good. I popped quickly as I was worked up and had a nice time squeezing her b-cup tits from behind while I did her. Afterwards, she was extremely chatty, telling me she was 19, married but separated. She told me she was an addict, but she only snorted, no injecting (and I believe her...no track marks, and she was not rail thin, plus when we were done asked me to drop her off at a chinese retaurant near where I picked her up to get food), and she was going to get into rehab because she wanted to get back with her husband and child. Just kept rambling on and on. Said her husband had money, and that she had a great life, a nice house, beautiful furniture, but that she just could not keep herself from snorting and tricking. Said she had slept for two days after being up for four days straight. Apparently she had been out to meet a regular, but blew him off fo the fast cash. This was the only time I have let the little head think for me. Like Ahab hunting the white whale, I will return to my quest for only hotties. At least I passed up on the truly gross SWs out there.

2) Did an early evening (more like pre-dusk) tour of PP/Conkling a later day. A helicopter was circling over the park, but it left. Saw quite a few suspects, and one or two definites, but could not stop, as I had some errands to run. A few were definitely worth picking up, darn the luck. Passed through Hampden, and again saw a suspect or two, plus one definite who I would have picked up except for the damned errand. Oh well.

Dr. Monger

rip3138

05-14-03, 18:29

Man, have you guys seen the N.Y. posts about crazy parties with 100 girls and 300 mongers. Lapdances for $5 and fun fun fun all night long. I'm thinking about going up there to venture out for a crazy night out of town. Anyone here would be interested? Trashman?

TrashMan

05-14-03, 19:19

Already in the loop

Happy Day

05-15-03, 17:23

Hi all. It's been awhile since I've had time to go out or to post... but, yesterday was wonderful! Typically when i cruise, I start out in Brooklyn, then I go over to Wash/Wilkens. I have stopped going to PP altogether since it generally seems to be a complete waste of time, esp since when I do go out, with a little bit of work, it seems to always be a guarantee to find someone really good in the Wash/Wilkens area, as was the case yesterday. I'll get to the story about her in a minute.

First though, I must touch on Brooklyn. I have sucessfully picked a couple of people up there in the past, but I must say that more times that I drive thru there there is no one out at all (or complete dogs) and I'm not sure it's worth keeping that on my tour route. Or, is it just that I'm going there at the wrong time of day? I usu. get there around 11-3. What are your thoughts?

Okay, back to Wash/Wilkens. I find that you can usually find someone there anytime of day, but it seems that after 3pm is the best time. Yesterday, ahh, what a find ... Wilkens & Millington (I think) ... there was a beautiful very young blonde with long hair. Perfect body. I didn't imagine that she was working, but ahh yes ... she was. Quickly turned the corner and got her in the car. Took her to a nearby house (old guy who rents a room for 5 bucks ... really crappy place, but its nearby and cheap and safe from LE). Went up to the room, and proceeded to have what I would consider to be the utmost, perfect, dream of what we are all looking for! She had a perfect body. Perfect C cups. Gave an AWESOME BBBJ, and then when it came time for sex ... slipped the condom on, and she was ever so tight. She says she has only been doing this for a week, and it still hurts when guys who are somewhat bigger go inside of her. Ahh it was wonderful.

So, bottom line is, my opinion is becoming that the only place worth spending time looking, is in the Wash and Wilkens area. Yes, there are finds in the other location, but they are becoming so few and far between, is it worth it?

That's all for now folks. Happy hunting, and be safe.

Clix

05-15-03, 18:12

Originally posted by TrashMan
Already in the loop

Trash -
If you are heading up to NYC, let me in on the details.
I am leaving for Vegas in about ten minutes and wont return till next thursday....so if you go before then, I am SOL. If you go later, maybe I can go with....
Keep me posted.
Clix

TrashMan

05-15-03, 18:48

Brother Clix,

I'd be happy to have your company for a NYC outing sometime, but I rarely get up there anymore these days due to a change in jobs that keeps me pretty busy here and negates travel necessity for a while. This summer when the old lady is gone I will be out a lot both to NY and Baltimore so we'll get it together for then, OK? Probably not until early June time frame.
You'll just love my new job by the way. I started up a sunless mist tanning salon. very hot on the west coast and I am one of the few in this area to have it. All the girls coming in just love it and I love them.

rip3138

05-16-03, 00:23

Damn Trashman, NICE PLACE! You need any FREE Part-Timer who ONLY gives message and after hour SPECIALS to all HOT FEMALES! LoL Give me an email if you plan to hit NYC with Clix. As long as I'm off I'll go up there for sure. Heard there was a boat party but haven't found out the exact date yet but heard it was June as well. Need to balance my work schedule with my monger schedule.

HappyDay- Wilkens is a good area but I hardly find high quality around there. Two days ago I found this chick who's a 6 by face, but has a nice ass with a skinny body. Went to her place, which was on a small street parallel to Wilkens (real close). Dunno if anyone has visited her before but she lives in the basement and this old man with skin cancer lives upstairs. Had a great time with her (nice BBBJ, Pussy, and Anal).

Dr.Monger

05-17-03, 12:37

Bizarre but true...

Was out scouting yesterday, and ran into a girl I have known for a few years...but not as a SW. It was a normal scouting trip, but earlier than my usual time. PP/Conkling was dead on the first pass. Decided on one more loop, although the first had had virtually no suspects. Well on the second pass it was like someone opened a can of SW. They were everywhere! I think the rain must have been stopped long enough for them to get their shit together and decide to get out there. Anyway, I could not decide there were so many suspects. Then I saw two together, a blonde and a brunette. I thought of Rip3138's two girls, but I was not sure, I thought he said they were both blonde. So I came around again, seeing the just tremendous number of SW out, and then I saw the brunette get into a car, leaving the blonde. I drove by the blonde, and she looked familiar. After another pass, I thought I recognized her as a girl who used to work at a local strip club, and then for an escort service (her pic is still up on the web even though she no longer works there, per a post by the owner). I was not sure, so I came around again. A suspicious guy nearby coupled with her terrible location for being picked up made me pass again, but my curiousity was out of control by now. I finally pulled to the other side of the road. I almost never make main drag pickups, but I had to know. She crossed over and came to the passenger window and looked in. No doubt now. It was her. She had at one time been one of the most beautiful women I had ever known, with a most fantastic body and a beautiful face. She got in. She looked kinda rough. She was not made up, and her previously fairly flawless skin was pimply and broken out. She looked at me and asked if she knew me. I said no (despite the fact I had actually f****d her while she was stripping, because the cost back then had been $$, and I did not want her getting any ideas about price). She said I looked familiar, and asked if I had ever been to club XYZ. I said I had. We drove, and there was no "Are you a cop" questioning or requests. We kept driving, and she chatted about various things, telling me about her problems with her car, how she used to dance, etc. No mention of money. Just nothing. Went to my location for fun, and still no talk about anything. I sat down, and she got on her knees and I think she was going to blow me right there without any discussion about price or acts. She was clearly very new at this. I asked her if she was a cop. She said no, and asked if I was. I pulled up her shirt and felt her (enhanced) breasts. Still as nice as I remembered. I told her what I wanted (two pops, first oral, second in her p****y. She agreed. I asked her to get naked. She started to, then asked if she could leave her shirt on as she was cold. Personally, I thought it was to hide the track marks. I had her pull the front of her top up behind her head so I could see her marvelous breasts. She began the bbbj and I was so worked up I popped pretty quickly. Cleaned up a little for round two, and had her get me hard. On went the cover and we went at it. Perhaps I was a little overly optimistic about things, and I had diffculty popping again. (Yet a few weeks before I had popped three times with two different escorts from florida within a week of each other) We stopped, and I took the hat off. I told her I would give her 2/3 of the previous amount agreed. She said why don't I give you another BJ. I agreed. Gents, this girl was so focused on getting that extra small amount she went to great lengths to earn it. I mean she tried incredibly hard to get me off. Did everything I asked. And as hard as I was, just could not get there. A combination of factors I am sure, including my own lack of sleep the night before. But boy did she try. Very accomodating. Finally I just told her to stop. (I was getting raw) We got dressed and left. On the way back took a look at her arm. She said she had just gotten out of two weeks of rehab. She said that she had been clean for a year, but had gotten into the wrong crowd again. This is a woman who just a month before had been making $250 an hour for a local service, and now she was working the streets. The long downward spiral of drugs was taking its toll on her. She had started just snorting heroin (I knew she did that when she was stripping and I had first met her) She said she has only been out a few times, (her inexperience showed) and has no phone. Be nice to her if you see her guys.

Ebdawgg

05-17-03, 14:20

Originally posted by dr.monger
Bizarre but true...

Was out scouting yesterday, and ran into a girl I have known for a few years...but not as a SW...This is a woman who just a month before had been making $250 an hour for a local service, and now she was working the streets. The long downward spiral of drugs was taking its toll on her. She had started just snorting heroin... Be nice to her if you see her guys.

Very sad but true. I've witnessed this story - former stripper/escort - about six times now. It's really amazing.

Ever heard about a prom queen? I've seen that one too as well as a legal secretary, office manager, a friend of a neighbor's and three bartenders. These weren't "befores" that I had witnessed (except for one bartender) but stories that later checked out.

On the other hand, hard drugs keep the prices down and provide mongers with women they would never get to do otherwise. But it's still incredible to witness.

Thanks for the good story Doc.

Happy hunting

Ol Seadog

05-18-03, 14:48

Sad but true Dr. Monger...good report. I too have seen this happen many times. I knew a girl (dead now) who had a striaght life, husband and 3 kids...lived in the county and had her own home and a job. A g/f of hers at work turned her on to just snorting coke and within 6 months she had lost her job, gone through their entire savings and was turning tricks around PP while hubby was working. She started shooting heroin and he finally found out by hiring a priate detective. She worked the area for about 18 months and I studied with her a few times but she got so damned nasty looking that I stayed away. Heard from another SW that she finally overdosed.......what are your thoughts?

There are a thousand stories like this as you know. I feel for these girls but when it comes right down to it if we let our feelings take over they while see this and take advantage every time.

I estimate that a new SW on drugs only lasts an average of 2 years on the street. Then she either gets clean and stays clean or she ends up being to unattractive physically to earn enough to feed her habit, goes to jail for a long streach or overdoses.

We need rehab on demand for these sick people.....when they are ready for help they shouldn't be told that a bed may be available in 6 months...hell, they could be dead by then.

Paland

05-18-03, 20:56

A late report on recent visit to Baltimore. Was in town on business last Wednesday and I sure enjoy mixing a little pleasure to make it a full day. Started out on Patapsco from Caton all the way to Brooklyn around 1 PM. This was my first time cruising this route. Didn't see much out and about. Were a few but not so good. And saw several possibles in Brooklyn but a lot of LE action on the street and parked on the main drag. Decided to try Wash/Wilkins. Saw probably 7 or 8 but nothing special. Made the loop again and saw a thin blonde decent looking. There were several LE cruising and one walking as it's getting close for school to be out so I looped around a got in front of her about a 1/2 block and parked and let her come to me which she did. Got in and we took off. No words spoke for several minutes then she did the no cop routine. I just grab her small titties and said to her that she will find out when I am done. My usually spots weren't so good that day so we tried her spot which busy too. Ended up in a declining truck loading dock in an abandoned warehouse. Anyway, her name was Kelly so she says, 36, slim, tight, small tits, blonde and she tired fairly quickly on the suck job (kind of strung out which I did not detect earlier) so I pulled down her shorts and we went to the "sit on my lap" routine which got the job done. She wanted extra for fs but I did give her a ride back to Washington Ave.

Anyway I cleaned up and went to an appointment. About 5 PM I hit pp. Made several laps seeing a few dogs, went over to Conklin, didn't see anything. Went down Highland to get some cigars at corner store. When I went to park behind this car near the corner, I didn't notice anything. Coming out of the store I notice the 2 people in the car, one female and one male. Mid 40's white shirts with badges on their belts, the shirts were not uniform shirts. I walked slowly and could hear them talking about the local dealers, sw and other specimens. I had no idea if they were LE or what but figured it was time to move on. Went back to pp and made several more laps and just about picked the bleached blonde, 30's, maybe a 4 with decent body but definitely high when I see two new ones on west side of park. I could tell they were together but they were on different sides of road. I picked the brunette named Danielle so she says, 19, kid with husband, I am sure she is a user but you couldn't tell it. She had a cut on left jaw that she just had stitches out. She said a black dude had fucked her up several weeks ago. Anyway, she was talkative, friendly and down right pleasant. Went to her spot. Down by the water next to a school playground. Probably the best bj that I have had in years. Didn't talk money till afterwards. Just a jackson. I kicked in a tip too. On the way back to pp she programs my FM 2 for Baltimore stations, 1 classic, 1 c/w, soft rock, 1 hard rock and 2 classic rock for my next visit.

Both girls offered phone numbers which I refused because of my past experience, I have never had one work. I told them that if we hook up again then I will take the numbers.

On my way out of Baltimore I did go through Falls Road. Didn't see squat but did get a great sub at some Italian place for the ride home. Good fucking sub.

Dr.Monger

05-18-03, 23:40

Originally posted by Paland
I picked the brunette named Danielle so she says, 19, kid with husband, I am sure she is a user but you couldn't tell it. She had a cut on left jaw that she just had stitches out. She said a black dude had fucked her up several weeks ago. Anyway, she was talkative, friendly and down right pleasant. Went to her spot. Down by the water next to a school playground. Probably the best bj that I have had in years. Didn't talk money till afterwards. Just a jackson. I kicked in a tip too. On the way back to pp she programs my FM 2 for Baltimore stations, 1 classic, 1 c/w, soft rock, 1 hard rock and 2 classic rock for my next visit.

That is the same girl I picked up two posts ago. Pierced eyebrow. Same name, same story. Same fetish for playing with the radio.

Dr. Monger

Paland

05-19-03, 07:36

Dr. Monger.......I had read your previous post and thought she might have been the same. Did you get her to use some mouth wash? I am on my way down to Charlotte this morning for several days of work. Looks like June will be a little slower for me so I am going to see if I can find her again. She is worth a repeat maybe with some extras too.

Dr.Monger

05-19-03, 17:20

Scouting report and lessons learned.

I had time to do some extended scouting over the weekend. First did midday Hampden. Nothing. Then down to PP/Conkling. Again not much. Went back much later after the rain stopped and still not much in PP/Conkling. After a while things picked up and saw a few definite suspects, but nothing that fit my requirements. headed over to Wilkens because of the tales of young blondes previously reported. The SW over there definitely seemed much younger than PP for the most part. It was hard to tell for sure which ones were working too, as there were folks out everywhere. And LE was everywhere, (Wilkens, Ramsey, Washington) and my comfort level there is very low (just don't like main street pickups...too open and dangerous) so I beat a hasty retreat. Saw some definite suspects, but LE was too heavy to even loop around.

Back to PP. Again, there came a point where a the SW seemed to all come out at once, and then they were gone again. One in white leggings got picked up before I could even circle around to see the face. I think timing things after a weather event is the way to do it. LE was not as heavy as usual, but my new route showed me some additional SW zones, but the talent in those places (mentioned in earlier posts) was not so good.

A quick loop through Hampden revealed mostly the usual suspects, and one very cute, busty blonde walking along smoking. I passed her a few times, but she never looked up, so I guess she was not working. Headed home.

Dr. Monger

Paland - No mouthwash because it was not required :-). Double check my post.

The New Guy

05-19-03, 19:57

Made a run Today (monday) at about 1:00 in the afternoon. Started off with PP and only saw two definite SW's but they were too old for me. Cruised over to Wash blvd and only saw one out and I passed on it. Went up to Brooklyn next went all over Brooklyn and only saw one and passed on her as well.

Coming down Patapsco I decided to go to Wilkens (which I had never tried before). Let me just say GOOD GOD!! on the corner of wilkens and monroe, there must have been three white girls all 9's and not a day over 23. As I went to circle around another one was behind the same building on the corner so i picked her up. 23 years old named "Muffy". Very pleasent girl and she was a solid 8. The usual 20 and i was gone. Would definitly try wilkens and monroe during the weekdays before school lets out, all are in there lower 20's and almost all were 9's.

Tonto

05-19-03, 23:10

Hi all, this is my first post on the WSG but I have been reading it for a couple months now. First of all let me say I have never picked up a sw yet but after reading all the posts I am willing to give it a try. I am an AMP person. Been hitting Downtown spa in DC mostly for about a year now.

Just for old times sakes, does anyone remember the two spas in Ellicott city and Columbia a while ago. One was Tokoyo and the other one was Maimi Spa. They both were great. To bad they had to close down about 10 years ago.

Back to sw's. I have tried all the places mentioned here to include Wash/wilkens, PP/cockling, Brooklyn....all with no luck. I usually try on either Fri/Sat nite about 9-11 pm and just havent seen anything. All I ever see all over the place are a bunch of guys hanging out all over the place. Mabey I am hitting at the wrong times. Am going to try during the week in early evening soon, hope it helps.

The only place I dont know how to get to is Hampton, I know the directions were given a while back but havent been able to find them again. which exit is it off of 83?? Checked mapquest but still couldnt find it.

A couple of things worry me though. First is where to go if/after I pick up a girl. I have read to not go to where she picks and I dont really know of any on my own.

Second is something I have never seen addressed here. Is it true or not that LE can take your car permentlly if caught. Believe me, explaining getting caught to the wife would be bad enough, but to tell her I lost the car also would make it much worse. So my question is, can LE impound your car and is it lost for good.

I will tell you what I would really like to do is to meet up with someone that really knows his way around and have him "show me the ropes" sometime. If there are any takers, respond here with an email address and I will get in touch.

Thanks to all for this great site.

TrashMan

05-20-03, 00:03

Well Kimosabee, you needum find Lone Ranger and horse Trigger to get the right smoke signals you need. Well written intelligent questions for a newbie. Clearly you have the sense to come in outa the rain and work smart not hard, which is more than can be said for a lot of guys. Suggest that you read back through some older posts for pretty exacting loop directions and then get a map and study it. The geography will be more clear then.
As to your LE car confiscation question, I don't have the exact answer but I can tell you this...LE are pretty damn good at manufacturing shit when they want to bad enough and if you're just unlucky enough to hit them at the wrong time, you're fucked.
For instance, although they may not have actually witnessed your dick in her mouth, pussy or asshole as well as seen you give her money to induce her to do it, that never stopped them from lying nor from at least shaking her down and woe betide ye young monger boy if she's carrying cause then you may be royally fucked with no vaseline to help the pain. That's an instance when I think they can take the car. Since it's a really good bet that often these girls are carrying, it's an equally good bet that you might pay the price. And yes, explaining to the old lady just exactly what your dick was doing where it didn't belong is bad enough, but coupling the stupidity of losing the family wheels will make you a prime candidate for a divorce if you're lucky and Bobbitization if you're not. The point here is that you are right to exercise lots of caution and know what your personal risk tolerance is.
As far as a Lone Ranger to teach Tonto the ropes, first you'll have to earn trust that you're not either LE or an asshole, then you may find somebody willing to impart some wisdom, at least over a beer. The best in Baltimore is Incognito, but, as his name implies, he is very hard to meet and values his privacy greatly. Ohterwise try the good doctor or Rip for invaluable advice and perhaps companionship.

Ebdawgg

05-20-03, 16:42

Originally posted by Tonto
Hi all, this is my first post on the WSG but I have been reading it for a couple months now.

The only place I dont know how to get to is Hampton, I know the directions were given a while back but havent been able to find them again. which exit is it off of 83?? Checked mapquest but still couldnt find it....

Is it true or not that LE can take your car permentlly if caught. Believe me, explaining getting caught to the wife would be bad enough, but to tell her I lost the car also would make it much worse. So my question is, can LE impound your car and is it lost for good.
.

Tonto:

First read past posts on this board and head the wisdom of some of the long time mongers in here. Do a search on some of the regular posters and check what they have to say. Trashman, Clix, Greenmachine and plenty of others have done much that you'd like to experience and plenty that you don't.

As far as LE taking your car goes, if the cop is in a bad enough mood or feels he has cause, your car can be impounded but usually you can get it the next day. They almost never (that I have ever heard of) confiscate a vehicle until trial or require forfieture as a penalty after conviction for what you might be charged with. If you're busted one thing is sure, you'll get a stay in B-more's finest accomodations - Central Booking; punishment enough for many.

If it is impounded, a trip out to Rt.40 east, a hundred bucks and some hassle later and it's all yours again. If you're lucky though, the cop will leave the car where you were arrested and you can retrieve it 16 or so hours later (after your trip to central booking) at that spot, provided you got busted in an otherwise legal parking space.

My advice: get a good story and keep it handy; the wife may actually buy it the first time. You may not need it for many years or ever but if you chase SWs you'll likely need it at some point.

Lastly, it's HAMPDEN, hon. Find the corner of Falls rd & 36th street and you're at the south end of HAMPDEN and at the start of the mongering strip.

Dr. M:

I actaully saw today, for the first time ever, the reverse of the bizzare but true story. I noticed someone working in a bar, not known in anyway for SWs or anything like that and way away from any of the "loops", who I realized was a SW I hadn't seen on the "loops" in a while. I don't know if she still works her old side job but I didn't want to say anything under those circumstances; I had been curious what happened to her. Good to see that the sad story can work in reverse too.

Happy hunting

Dr.Monger

05-21-03, 00:31

Wow, so many topics to cover...so little time...so firsts things first...

1) Can they impound your car? I don't know for sure. The answer is a qualified maybe. Apparently, they can do a forfeiture if you are caught with drugs in the car, but I don't know if drugs on the SW would be enough. I do not think they can do a forfeiture just for a SW or a sting, I don;t think there is a law on that here, just for drugs. Double check with your lawyer. lol. I do know that if there is a lien on the car then you technically don't own it. Most criminal defense attorneys can also oppose LE's attempt to take your car. But it will cost you a lot. Also, if there is an innocent co-owner they don't have the right to take it. Sort of like the lien situation. Still it is better not to get caught at all. Remember, you never have to take to the cops, or consent to a search. Take the fifth. They do have the right to search the car if you are arrested. There was a good story on the Seattle board a few months back about a monger who was pulled over and the cop says "pretty embarassing to be caught with a SW in the car, huh?" The monger said nothing, and the cop could not prove anything, so he had to let the monger go...to have said "yes" would have been an admission...

2) Trash - thanks for trying to shove the newbie off on me but no thanks...no disrespect to Tonto, but it is spanish for "stupid" and I try not to be, despite the story that follows. Someone else can take a risk that he is LE...hehe.

3) Am I addicted? After some thought I realized I had been out cruising five evenings/nights in a row, with a couple of trips in the daytime thrown in. Maybe more but I can't remember farther back than that. Just an observation. I have noticed that I am becoming obsessed with finding SW. I may take a break in the near future to evaluate more, but until the I will search on! But damn it is addictive!

4) ALWAYS BE AWARE OF LE...see the following:

Scouting report:

I HATE DAYLIGHT. Don't get me wrong, there are advantages, in that you can actually see the girl and how good/bad she looks. But the pickup becomes SO obvious it makes me very nervous. That being said, I went to PP Conkling to scout things out, and with the days getting longer it was still bright when I began.
Not much going on, but there was a cop car parked on Conkling and Lombard, and Officer Friendly was standing on the corner taking it all in. Obviously I did not return, as I did not want my vehicle seen cruising around. The new pattern I mentioned recently is showing SW activity in previously uncharted (for me) waters, but all skanky. Thought I saw "Danielle", who waived to me but passed her by. Then I saw my stripper/escort friend in the same spot as last time. Its a dumb spot, especially for daylight. She kept lookingat me, but I did notsignal to her. I was just not interested, don't know why, as she is hot for a SW. I guess its the "been there, done that" thing. Did see the hottest girl ever walking up Conkling, but I don't think she was working. Just kept walking til I lost sight of her. grey jacket, yellow shirt, big boobs..oh well.

Decided to try Wash/Wilkens and see what was up, and see if I could improve my comfort level. First time saw a very well built, older (30's) blonde in SW garb (for baltimore that means sweatpants...lol). She was walking up from the circle towards Monroe. Saw another cutie also walking along Wilkens but not sure about her either. Went back down to Wash, and saw a YOUNG, cute, thin blonde on Wash, plus some skanky ones. Came back but she was gone. Went back up to Wash and the older blonde (great boobs!) was hanging by herself near Monroe. Looked at her but no return look. The some guys walked up and talked to her. Went around the block and she was still talking. Last time around the guys were walking off but no look, so I went back down to Wash. Still nothing. Back up Monroe, but went to a side street and it was like SW alley! had to be at least 5 SW, all working, no doubt, one cute one gave me an obvious signal. All were brunettes, and I have a blonde fetish, so I passed for now. A well built BSW was on Wilkens, but not my cup of tea. The older blonde was still there, but again no eye contact, so I kept moving. Back on Wash the young blonde was back. I caught the red light and looked at her. She looked back. I really did not think she was working. Finally, she made a small signal, I responded and she walked over to the side street. I turned into the side street, as it was clear she did not want me to pick her up on the main drag. As I pulled over she did not get in, or even come close. Then I noticed a car stopped directly behind me within 7 feet (saw the headlights). I pulled up and turned the next corner and pulled over again. She walked around, crossed to the other side of the street and finally walked back and got in. Wow, really cute and young. I pegged her for 18. Nope, says she is 21. whatever. She said the car behind me was a cop. The car was a taurus. I was so focused on her that I had not been paying attention! LESSON LEARNED. Apparently she had gotten in his car earlier, he had propositioned her immediately and she asked to get out. She made a lot of small talk as we headed off for my favorite spot. Apparently LE has been turning up the heat lately, including using unmarked cars, especially beaters, and that the undercovers don't look like cops. Perhaps the truth, perhaps SW paranoia. Said she was clean for the moment, and that was borne out by a lack of track marks. She seemed very intelligent, and told me she is picky about who she gets in the car with. Claims that vice has added over 100 cops (I find that hard to believe) to work on drugs and prostitution. Has good rules for her safety, all of which I agreed with. Told me there is a guy who has stabbed two SW in the Wash/Wilk area, older bald guy. Also told me 4 SW were killed working PP recently (in the last year). She seemed to have a lot of info, how accurate I don't know. You can imagine the rest of the details based on my previous posts, but lets just say the lessons were adequate. She has a kid, and it showed. Same loose, stretched belly skin as "Danielle", but not as bad. Says she is motivated to stay off the horse due to how bad the other girls look, and her kid, plus she likes her teeth. She is moving supposedly next week to somewhere where she can stay away from the drugs. She said it is hard to stay clean when everyone around you is doing them, and I suppose boredom plays a role. She was very nice, as almost all of them have been, and seemed to have a good head on her shoulders. [I erased something here about why it should be legal - another post perhaps]. I wish her the best. Be nice if you see her.

I definitely like W/W now, because of the young, cute SW, but still need to get the area down better to simplify, and be moe careful during pickups.

Dr. Monger

Ebdawgg

05-21-03, 02:19

Originally posted by dr.monger
Remember, you never have to take to the cops, or consent to a search. Take the fifth. They do have the right to search the car if you are arrested.... She said the car behind me was a cop....

The car was a taurus.... Apparently LE has been turning up the heat lately, including using unmarked cars, especially beaters, and that the undercovers don't look like cops.... Claims that vice has added over 100 cops (I find that hard to believe) to work on drugs and prostitution...

Told me there is a guy who has stabbed two SW in the Wash/Wilk area, older bald guy. Also told me 4 SW were killed working PP recently (in the last year). She seemed to have a lot of info, how accurate I don't know.
Dr. Monger

Dr. Monger,

Your girl has good info. The 100 cops on vice has been documented by both the paper and the TV news.

The beater cars story is on the money; I once witnessed a sting where LE was picking up SWs. In their operation I saw one beat up old pickup, one rental looking sedan and one camaro or firebird. These guys did not look like cops but later I saw one SW point out a car that had been used earlier and warned another SW to stay away.

The guy in PP was arreseted in the fall but caused quite a stir in the area and his effect was documented on the board.

Thanks for reporting. It's info like this that makes the board worth reading; you are to be commended sharing what your friend shared with you. Shows what we can get when we take the time to listen.

Happy hunting

Bingo

05-21-03, 15:30

Originally posted by Tonto
Back to sw's. I have tried all the places mentioned here to include Wash/wilkens, PP/cockling, Brooklyn....all with no luck. I usually try on either Fri/Sat nite about 9-11 pm and just havent seen anything. All I ever see all over the place are a bunch of guys hanging out all over the place. Mabey I am hitting at the wrong times. Am going to try during the week in early evening soon, hope it helps.Still relatively new at this myself, I remember the same feeling circling around not seeing "anyone". Most likely they're there, but you just don't know what to look for yet.

For me I kept thinking those were regular neighborhood folk until one night at PP, by chance, this blue old pickup truck does a real quick mid-traffic turn, pulls to the curbside, and as I drive past in my rearview mirror I see her just hop right on in - oh so _that's_ it... Strange, from that night on every scouting trip there's always been someone, granted quality varies and some days it takes 2-3 hr of hopping between several of the camping grounds to find someone worth stopping for. Though this may not work if you have a ball and chain at home, give the 11p-1a/2a a run or two, especially the W/W loop. So far 100% (knock on wood). Early evening seems to be a lull for me, agree with recent posts that some hotties are out during the day (sleep in, wake up ill, need the $ to get well) but also agree with recent posts that a daytime stop feels weird... there's like a postman delivering mail in front of you, some kids playing on the street behind you.. and on Wash Blvd ~lunchtime there's just tons of traffic looking at you from all sides.

Re: Dr. Monger's comments on how addicting this hobby is you know when I first got into this I thought man way cool this'll be so much cheaper than block shopping or escorts but hell I scout way more often than I used to see blockettes and boy it's adding up...

Tonto

05-21-03, 18:17

Thanks much to everyone that responded to my initial post. Like I said, right now I am strickly a spa guy. If any of you read gentlemensreview.net and check the "Downtown" spa in DC you will see many reviews from me. Gentlemensreview is a good source for spa goers.

Didnt think I would get any takers on the ride along and I understand why.

Like I said before, I have gone cruising several times and have yet to see anything, but will keep trying whenever I get the chance. I just have to work up the courage to pick up the first one, I guess it gets easier after that.

Thanks again and I will post on my progress.

Globetrotter

05-21-03, 23:58

Hey Doc,

Great post and very informative. In your paragraph on the Wilkens/Monroe area you wrote:

"so I went back down to Wash. Still nothing. Back up Monroe, but went to a side street and it was like SW alley! had to be at least 5 SW, all working"

Can you describe in more details where this was (street names, cross streets, etc.). I have never personally had much luck in the Wilkens area. Only once or twice have I actually scored there and it was nothing to write home about. But I keep reading about these hot young SW's available in that area. Maybe I've just been looking in the wrong place. I'd really appreciate it if you or another member of the board could steer me in the right direction. Yhanks

rip3138

05-22-03, 02:40

Nice post Dr. Monger! Just out of curiousity where is your usually spot to find the hot SW exactly. I could use some HOT SW sex. I was up at Conklin/PP 2 days ago and found a nice SW by the name of Bonnie. She worked me over like a dog in Elrich (the motel). I blew 3 big loads in 1 hour and I was amazed on how well I performed. LoL. Struggled with anal to begin with then blasted a load after like the first 5 mins because of the intense pressure. Then she worked my ASS off with her tongue (now I know why Trashman loves that so much). I had her swallowing my cum for bbbjtc. Sometimes I'm a bit worried when it comes to SWs who are willing to swallow but at the time I didn't think much of it.

Bingo

05-22-03, 09:37

Re: the Wilkens area, Wilkens Ave and several streets that run parallel to it (unfortunatley, don't remember names off the top of my head, pretty clear though if you check a map)

I find the most frequented is the one parallel street just north of Wilkens. I figure maybe the girls walk a rectangle, down wilkens a stretch, up a street or two, and back down one of those streets. Some nights (12mn-ish) there's so many out on Wilkens (>8) that maybe they just need to spread out so if a john pulls over they know who they pulled over for.... I've noticed also a lot of SWs don't really eye the traffic, either. If you see a hottie you like walking alone (without a grocery bag), just pull over and unlock the doors, there's a huge chance she'll hop on in.

EDITOR's NOTE: I took a few minutes to revise the capitalization and punctuation mistakes in this report. However, with everything else I have to do to maintain the forum, I don't really want to spend my time doing this every day, so I would very much appreciate it if everyone could refrain from using the "chat room" style of writing with no caps or punctuation. I don't expect everyone to be a great writer, but it's not difficult to use the CAPS key for names or to put a period at the end of sentences. Thanks!

Razors

05-22-03, 12:04

Globetrotter Wilkens was a great success Tuesday night. Once I got there that is, traffic was a super *****. I was comming from Springfield VA and there was construction at VanDorn and where the Parkway came into 495 and a freakin accident that closed 3 lanes on 95 where 895 splits off. Spent more time sittin on the highway than cruising for SWs.

A couple passes along Wilkens around midnight identified well over a dozen WSWs of various ratings 3 - 6. They were further up than I had looked before, along the intersection of Monroe & Wilkens. I ended up with "Sheri" 5'4" dark blond hair about 30yo - addict skinny but no needle marks, says she snorts. For $30 provided a BBBJTCIM. Nice but not great, dont plan to repeat with her.

Leaving I wandered a bit and cruised down W Lombard to Carey where I saw a whole new batch of SWs, better looking ones. A couple were dressed for the part. There was one hot looking girl, easily an 8, blond busty and couldnt have been over 21. Perfect Dr. Monger bait. She was dressed conservatively but I got the look as I drove by. Too bad it was so late at that point, I would have given her a try even tho I had justed busted a nut. Kicking myself now, I should have at least tried to get a tel #.

Originally posted by Globetrotter
Hey Doc,

Great post and very informative. In your paragraph on the Wilkens/Monroe area you wrote:

"so I went back down to Wash. Still nothing. Back up Monroe, but went to a side street and it was like SW alley! had to be at least 5 SW, all working"

Can you describe in more details where this was (street names, cross streets, etc.). I have never personally had much luck in the Wilkens area. Only once or twice have I actually scored there and it was nothing to write home about. But I keep reading about these hot young SW's available in that area. Maybe I've just been looking in the wrong place. I'd really appreciate it if you or another member of the board could steer me in the right direction. Yhanks

TrashMan

05-22-03, 13:11

Why Doc, I am surprised at you. After all, as a Doctor of Mongering, you took the Hypofuckit Oath to treat ALL patients, regardless of their stupidity. Take pity on poor Tonto!

One thing to remember when you guys are asking for specific locations where some poster saw SW's is that in Baltimore, the locations frequently change from hour to hour and day to day so one good doctor's good luck may well be strike out zone for you.
As in fishing or hunting, when one fisherman finds a motherlode in a particular heretofore unmentioned spot and then tells everyone about it, in no time at all there are way too many fisherman flocking to that spot and either fishing it out or drawing too much attention to that spot creating an LE heat spot and that causes the fish to move.

IMHO, it's better to fish all of the holes so that you cover all your bases instead of focusing excessively on any one place. Trust me, the fish will bite.

Paland

05-22-03, 18:26

TrashMan's comments........IMHO, it's better to fish all of the holes so that you cover all your bases instead of focusing excessively on any one place. Trust me, the fish will bite.

How true this is. As I am a part timer in this hobby, learning Baltimore has been extremely rewarding. Case in point would be last night. On my way back "up north" coming from Charlotte I cruised through several "loops" of Baltimore. Realising I have 4 definite loops plus the "Block" for pussy. If you can't score.....you ain't looking. Yes, my forhead gets bruised sometimes by hitting the windshield with the gawking, but that is a small price to pay sw hunting.

Last night was surreal. Hit Wash/Wilkens first. Saw 3 good and several duds on Wash but still looking, went up Monroe onto Wilkens, not sure of street name but going straight instead of turning left when Wilkens ends there were another 3. Being kind of picky, I loop back on Wilkens, all of a sudden every girl out there had a black dude (pimp) with them. I am saying all of them did plus a few new ones on the street. I then went back to Washington, saw 3 of the 5 earlier sw still walking AND they had a black dudes with them. Understand here that the sw and dudes were talking and walking, very obvious. The kicker was this all happened at midnight to 12:15 AM. This just happened to be when I hit B'more.

You can call me what you want......I am not a prejudice ass but I counted at least 10 wsw and 10 black dudes and they are all 16 to 22 years old. It was just a real turn off for me. I do understand the game but sometimes when it faces you it's impacting.

So, with all my acquired monger knowledge (thanks to all the experts here) I trott over to pp looking for Danielle. End up with another 20 yo pleasant. Good bj for a Jackson with a tip because I was tired and she preservered. I like good service. Thanks B'more. I will be back.

Paland

05-22-03, 19:23

Trashman continues to reign (or is that rain.....lol)

"Why Doc, I am surprised at you. After all, as a Doctor of Mongering, you took the Hypofuckit Oath to treat ALL patients, regardless of their stupidity"

What a hoot from the best on the board Trashman. I especially like the "Hypofuckit Oath". L O L

Dr.Monger

05-23-03, 00:48

A brief Rant...

To all you mongers out there...HOW ABOUT SOME POSTS? I see the same names over and over, Trash, Green, Paland, Rip, Globe and Ebdawgg. Where is everyone else? Known posters may BC me for info on specifics on where the girls can be found. I received just such an e-mail from the revered Incognito himself this week, which I promptly answered. My e-mail addy is in previous posts. Not only is Trash right about locations changing, but why would I want to give 100 mongers who don't post info on where to find the choice cuts of beef? Then there will be tons of mongers out there picking up the girls and none left for me...I am relatively new at this, but I figured most of it out on my own, with some sage advice from regular posters, and I am constantly adding to places where I look, expanding my horizons...You all should do the same...the main strolls are listed here, just go from there.

I was going to post my two most recent scouting reports, including reports of hotties, but now I am too pissed. I will post them later.

Dr. Monger

RIP and Ebdawgg - E-mail me and I will give you EXACT locations, and even times...

Joey D

05-23-03, 09:56

Where is PP & Conklin? Washington BLVD, and Monore seemed active in the afternoon. Lot of LE activity on Fairhaven... Be careful..

Bradman

05-23-03, 14:46

Why do the newbies keep posting the same dumb questions about where and what PP, Brooklyn, etc. are? When I was a newbie (a very short time ago) I just went back and looked at past posts to find things. Stop being lazy and do some research. It's all here on the board for us to peruse, you just need to spend some time looking.

Thanks to all of the longtime and usual posters who have shared all that info (you know who you are).

Incognito

05-23-03, 17:28

I got your post right here! Seriously, Doc... you have done a fine job posting and getting information out on the boards. I think that many people are afraid to post because of possible incrimination. It sucks that there are not more people sharing on these boards, I have a feeling there are a lot of lurkers out there benefiting from our hard work! There is no need to post those specific backstreets here, you have put your time in and have the privilage of sharing those details with the regulars via other channels.

I have not posted for a while so I thought I would send this one from a buddy of mine:

Has anyone ever "just said no" to a hot little blockette? Well this happened to me the other night. I had a second date scheduled with a cutie I had met a while back. Our first encounter was my best ever, and it has been posted previously on these boards. Everything was all arranged for meeting #2 but I just did not like the way she was treating me. I think that she figured she had me hooked, so she no longer had to be sweet and sexy with me when I visited her at the club. She was all business, drank her drink fast, and did not really give me the time of day. Now this was completely different than our first meeting when she was working hard to get my attention. So I called her up and cancelled. She was quite surprised that I was turning her down as I'm sure this does not happen often. Simply put, I was no longer interested in her... once was enough and I was ready to move on to pinker pastures. I was philosophizing with the Garbageman about this and he summed it up in a way that only he could, saying that usually by the second date you have finished teaching the girl what it means to be a filthy little sl*t. I guess for me once was enough!

Anyway... my friend says the block has been hit or miss lately. He has seen a few new faces but nothing special to note.

Sorry I don't have more to post but hopefully this weekend I will have more stories to tell. Thanks again to all those who post. Keep up the good work Doc, there will always be those out there who won't share the wealth, unfortunately.

incognito

Willing To Pay

05-23-03, 23:14

Hey All,

Will be doing a day trip to Baltimore. Looking for some advice on where to find young tight skin during the afternoon or early evening hours. Been to the area around the clubs in town next to LE station, qualilty was poor. Would be greatful for any help. I will post my experiences.

If you would rather backdoor the info, I can be reached at willingtopay2002@yahoo.com

First choice would be a blonde, young, tight, slim lady. Not into AMP's

Thanks,

Willing from Philly

TrashMan

05-23-03, 23:54

Paland, you are too fuckin' funny. That remark about wackin' your forehead on the windshield one time too many while gawking really cracked me up.

Doc and others are right here guys who take and never give. Get off your asses and do your own research and experimentation and pay your dues as Doc mentioned.
A) you won't then be perceived as stupid and/or lazy
B) when you really need to ask a question you'll get an answer
C) learning the ropes at least partially through experiencing them enriches your knowledge and confidence and makes you a better monger
D) you'll then have the most valuable commodity with which to do business here, information

Alternatively, spend some time cultivating a friendship with one of the recognized sexperts and pick their brains while you are paying for their drinks and perhaps treating them to a back room session with a honey. Most guys will be more than pleased to impart information and let you benefit from their knowledge base if they feel comfortable with you and that means in person meeting and if you're not a one way dick

TrashMan

05-23-03, 23:59

For those of you who practice pussy hunting, Incognito just passed on a really valuable tip. How to think with your big head instead of your little one. Instead of putting up with some dumb little C's bullshit, he walked. Sign of a great warrier to walk away with dick in hand rather than crapped on. Trust me, word gets around that you don't take no shit fast in that community

Farmboyks

05-24-03, 09:06

Divide and conquer, guys, divide and conquer. Here is my delurking post. There are only so many cop cars. Baltimore is a big city with a LOT of willing young skank. Identifying new hunting grounds only gives the cops & politicians with a hard on for streetwalkers more ground to cover.
The recent detour on Washington Blvd led me to a new route. Head south on Washington till the 95 overpass by the Italian Restaurant. Turn left on this road and follow it all the way back out by the Taco Bell on Caton. It is hit and miss, but productive. Saw a great looking young ghetto spook the other day. Hot brunette with a SHORT SHORT dress strutting down the street another day.
By the way, the brunette living with the skin cancer guy sounds like Racheal. Very hot & willing & nice. FYI, have enjoyed greek lessons with her & one hot session in which she let me coat her face & tits. She seemed to really enjoy that. Happy & productive hunting guys.

Cloud William

05-24-03, 09:57

Hey guys,

In reference to not posting I haven't been out and about lately. I could post but that would just be wasting bandwidth and peoples time. Be assured when I do get back out you guys will be the only people I tell.

Trashman wrote;

" Alternatively, spend some time cultivating a friendship with one of the recognized sexperts and pick their brains while you are paying for their drinks and perhaps treating them to a back room session with a honey. Most guys will be more than pleased to impart information and let you benefit from their knowledge base if they feel comfortable with you and that means in person meeting and if you're not a one way dick"

Ok, if I remember around this time last year there was a block party.
How about an evening where all interested mongers meet at a block club, swap stories, buy drinks, and see what kind of excitement they can get into.

Cloud

Happy Day

05-24-03, 12:50

Hello all. I thought I'd chime in about the lack of people posting. I don't post very often, but that's mainly because I don't have much of anything new to post. I go out every now and again, but being from DC, I don't get up to baltimore nearly as much as I'd like to. And when I do, I usually always get a very satisfying BBBJ from some little hottie I find in the areas we all know about. Now, the first time I find someone in a new spot, or some good new unknown incall location, or whatever else anyone might find of interest, I will immedietly post it. But, I think it's not really helpful to say, oh I got a great BBBJ from some chick I picked up at Wash and Carey, because anyone can do that any day of the week.

What really pisses me off is brand new people who have been lurking no doubt, writing stupid posts like, where is PP and conklin. God --- read back a few weeks ... months etc. Do people have no initiative to research anything. I remember when i first started all this a number of years back. I read every post, every archive, and every bit of information I could. This left me with relatively few questions. And anyone who is stupid enough to post dumbass questions that are answered somewhere in the posts here should not be answered.

I do also believe that there are many people who do have great new information that would benefit us all that they are not posting. They are reading, taking advantage of all this wonderful info, and just using it and not sharing their wealth.

And, I might add, this is the best forum in existence.

Okay, that's my rant and rave for today.

Happy Hunting. Be safe.

Ol Seadog

05-24-03, 13:55

Originally posted by JoeyD
Where is PP & Conklin? Washington BLVD, and Monore seemed active in the afternoon. Lot of LE activity on Fairhaven... Be careful..

Hey Joey, cut the guy some slack will ya? Obviously he was refering to the area around PP and Conkling as all of us know these streets do not intersect.

Remember, we all like a little ass but nobody likes a smart ass!

Ol Seadog

05-24-03, 14:56

Out last evening (Friday) and found a real treasure. About 5'2", shoulder lenght red hair (collar and cuffs match), said she was 33 but I swear she looks no more than 23, clean, articulate, feckles(sp) and green eyes standing by the cemetary at Balto/Conkling. I damn near hit the car in front of me when I spotted her standing there in the rain under an umbrella. I give her a solid 7 body and face wise and a 10 for personality. Only taboo is ANAL. She is bi and said she knows a few girls if I ever want a show. She said her name was Becky and used to dance on the Block. She is returning to the Block this weekend to resume her dancing at the Silver Slipper and only "works" the streets ocassionally.

Anyway, eyes meet and she smiles so I pull to the curb across the street and she runs over and gets in. We did the ususal touchy feely are you a cop thing and agree on $40 FS as I head for the no tell motel. In the room I just watched as she took of her things....very petite, small breasts, with inverted nipples and the pink areola that blonds and redheads sometimes have. Milky white smooth skin....what a find! I visited the "Y" and lingered longer till she was very wet. Light sparse red pubes and the pinkest smallest, tightest pussy I have seen or felt in many a year. She was very responsive and enthusiastic in all positions. After the act she was in no hurry to leave. I commented on her tightness and damn near died as she laughed saying that she had 6 kids. We went at it again and although twice is a challange for me she coaxed the yogart out in fine form. Gave her a $20 tip.

Fellas, if you see her take a chance, you will not be dissapointed. Funny, just when we think it is too good to be true we discover it is... ..seems she has a small drug habit, so get her quick before that monkey turns into a gorilla.

Be careful and good hunting.

Dr.Monger

05-25-03, 13:00

Scouting reports.

I have had to omany and it has been to long since my last post to differentiate, so I will just post general listings by areas.

1) Hampden - dead or usual suspects at all times. Waiting for fresh faces here.

2) PP/Conkling - Activity here has been sporadic. Weather has also been a factor. Did see the escort/stripper girl. She seems to always be out at the same time. Recent nighttime trips have yeilded only sporadic suspects, but I believe the reason for this is heavy mongering activity, the girls get picked up almost as soon as they hit the street. Found another spot that has picked up a little, but could not make a hookup. Still no sign of the porno look blonde...darn it. Saw another SW "in between" the usual strolls, not sure she was working. Tall brunette, glasses, smoking a cig. Figured out she was working when a second pass revealed her walking in the opposite direction. Next pass she was gone.

3) Wash/Wilk - Quickly becoming my favorite area, due to high numbers of girls and relative youth/looks. However, everyone else seems to know this too and they don't last very long. Often times one circle of the block and they are gone. Lotsa skanks and older ones too, but they get picked up as well! Did see a lot of LE too. In fact one night saw my friend from last week, but tons of LE out. She actually called my cell when she saw me! I did not notice until later, because the volume was down. I called her as I drove by later and told her the heat was on and I was not stopping. (There was a cop parked a block away in his squad car just watching the streets.) Also, it was a little rainy that night but the SW were still out. Saw a blonde SW dressed in thigh highs and a mini skirt, great body, but the face was a 4. Just could not pick her up. Someone else did though! Oddly enough, a lot of SW out in the rain!

Which brings me to another point. Everyone describes the one they pick up as a "hottie" Lets be real here gents. I am out there almost every day (yes I am f*cked up) and the actual hotties are few and far between. So be realistic won't you. There is no way all the SW picked up by the folks on this board are all hotties. If they were a skank let us know! We won't judge ya! (Well maybe a little...but its your d*ck...put it in a skanky hole if you like).

4) Patapsco/Brooklyn - What a mess. A truck had run into a house right on Patapsco. the W/B lanes were totally closed at 6th street. Like 6 cop cars. But a Monger's advantage, because all the cops were occupied! Saw a nice looking blonde SW a few blocks down from the wreck, but did not get the look until I had passed her. By the time I circled around she was gone. But cruising was much more comfortable knowing that Johnny Law was pre-occupied.

This weekend has been unbelieveable. Tons of Mongers out! I know because I see them circling, and making pickups etc. Nevere seen so many out in my life. The girls aren;t lasting more than 2 seconds before they get picked up!

Like Cap'n Ahab I keep searching for only true hotties. Maybe if I get horny I will stop and pick up something less attractive.

Dr. Monger

Dr.Monger

05-25-03, 13:10

New Yahoo Group. WSG is great, but I have decided to start a closed, non-directory listed Yahoo Group to share SPECIFIC info, that will not send 100 mongers out to a spot when they don't contribute sh*t to the board. I will of course still post here, as I expect everyone to. Several well known posters have already been invited because I have their e-mail addy's. Some whose addy's I DON"T have include : EBdawgg, Rip3138 and Ol'Seadog. E-mail me if you want in and I will send an invite. Hopefully there will be lots of more detailed info, and LE can't get in.

Only regular contributors here, or those with an established prescence and something to contribute will be admitted.

Paland

05-25-03, 18:17

"Which brings me to another point. Everyone describes the one they pick up as a "hottie" Lets be real here gents. I am out there almost every day (yes I am f*cked up) and the actual hotties are few and far between. So be realistic won't you. There is no way all the SW picked up by the folks on this board are all hotties. If they were a skank let us know! We won't judge ya! (Well maybe a little...but its your d*ck...put it in a skanky hole if you like)." Quote from dr.monger........

Hey doc.....I am late 50's, bald, some say fat (actually a little husky is more acurate) and down right butt ugly. Now when I pick up an early 20's sw that's above a 5 and she is willing.......she is a hotty to me.....

Actually, I save the term hottie for any sw that makes my Best 10 list. They may not make yours but they made mine.

Tonto

05-26-03, 00:22

I made a pass of all the regular areas today. Started out in Brooklyn and saw nothing on Patapsco and Fairhaven. This was about 5pm. Went over to Wilkins and did the circuit to Washington, Carey and still saw nothing. So headed over to PP/Conkling. At PP saw two possibles, one was young and very good looking, but looked to good, both dress and looks, to be a sw. Didnt have the guts to try for that reason. But after making three passes, she was still walking up and down the street, so I probably missed out on a good one. She was wearing an all white pants and shirt and had reddish blond hair and looked good. This would have been about 5:30. Next tried Hampden and saw one sw but saw her getting into another car when I stopped about a half block ahead of her. From there I went back to W/W area and by this time, about 6-6:30, saw at least 6 sw, all on Washington. One looked good, made eye contact and she signaled to me. I drove ahead and turned around but she was gone when I returned, about 2 min later. Saw another one, a tall, very thin blond with her hair up in a ponytail that looked good from a distance. Stopped and she came over to the car, when she got close I saw she had several nasty looking sores on her face, so deceided no way. All the others out were old and skanky looking. So I headed home. But at least I made more progress than before. I would really like to try and find the one at PP again, if she was working she would be considered a hottie. I will try again, probably Monday.

Joey D

05-26-03, 21:29

Went crusing around Washington Blvd, on Friday. Wilkens ave area didn't see anything I like. Then drove around again around 8:30pm, and I saw a nice looking blond and picked her up, she looked nasty so I gave her some money and dropped her off. Her name was Misty, then I drove back around to Monroe street, and saw two blonds one looked nice, and the another was fat. So, I signaled the one blond and she got in, she said her name was Pam, she was really cute looking. Face was a 9, body was a 6. We drove to this old man's house down the street that Pam knew. He charges $5.00, to use his bedroom. The house was a dump, but it was all good.

How do I get to Paterson Park and Conklin from Washington Blvd?

Dr.Monger

05-26-03, 23:10

Paland,

No offense was intended. It just seems to me that if we all stick to the 1-10 rating system, thousands of mongers won;t be swarming the area looking for that "hottie" who is really not so hot. I totally understand your concept, and my post was not a dig at any one poster. But I have sometimes been out for hours and seen only skanks...and even they get picked up...so someone finds them good enough to do the job.

Dr. Monger

Dr.Monger

05-26-03, 23:52

Since I had a lot of time this holiday weekend, did some major scouting.

Not much going on my first run. Checked out PP/Conkling and W/W without much to talk about. Had to drop down to DC that night (See DC board) and then on my way back stopped up late to see what was going on, but it was pretty dead at W/W. Went home. Another day I had a chance to do two runs.Started with a W/W hunt. LE was moderate. Lotsa SW out, but almost all Skanks. Saw my school chum from last week, but she was sitting on a stoop at on Washington just off Carey right near a cop. Too bad, cause I wanted to take her for an extended lesson. Her cell phone no longer works (big surprise) so I could not call her, and because of the LE I headed over to PP. Pretty dead there. Went back to W/W but again not much doing so I left.

Had a chance to return to the loops in the evening. What a difference a few hours makes! First I did not see much. Headed up Monroe and whoever posted it below is right...lotsa SW use the Monroe corridor to walk down to Wash. from Wilkens. Just be careful, as it is a N/S transit for LE too. Went up to SW alley, and it was pretty dead. Saw a nice blond SW down the road a little, so I drove by slowly and then pulled ahead of her. Now I am not a fan of main drag pickups, but she seemed hot enough to risk it. She just turned around and walked the other way. I was sure she saw me. I came around again, and drove by and damn she had nice legs, but some kind of cap on, could not get a clear look at the face, but the body seemed nice. Coming around was a little tricky, but in the process found another SW hanging out. Not my cup of tea. Went to to Wash but not much out, and with the weather suddenly turned warm, saw lots of women in shorts but who cold tell if they were working. Most just seemed to be out enjoying the day. Back over to Wilkens and SW alley was picking up! Saw two blondes but one was kinda ugly and the other seemed strung out. The blonde from before was still wandering, so I drove by and stopped on a side street. She looked at me and motioned to her watch. I rolled down my window and she asked me what time it was. Could not get a clear look as she was still far away. I told her and she thanked me and turned away!. I drove off. I decided I should have offered her a ride. So I came back and now she was talking to another SW, and then leaning in a car window. I pulled ahead and stopped, and the other SW came up and tried to get in. Thank goodness the door was locked! Pretty skanky. I rolled down the window and asked about her friend. She said it was her cousin and called her over. She came to the window and said aren;t you the guy I just asked the time? I said yes. Up close she was older, maybe thirties, and while the legs were great, had a few extra pounds (not many) and was a little saggy. her cousin said "she is new and nervous" I said ok, well have a good night and drove off. Never talked to SW though the window, and didn't like it. Back to SW alley and it was hopping. Must have been five girls, including the two blondes from before. Also a two no SW looking girls, one BSW and one blonde young WSW. I got the blonde to get in, and she said I waived to you before. I said "oh"? And then it hit me...she stank. She must not have showered for a few days, but after half a block it was too much! I told her I was sorry, I thought she was someone else. She asked if I wanted her to get out, and I said yes. She just hopped out. I had to lower the windows to get the smell out! Too bad cause she was pretty cute, about a 6.5-7, and did not look drugged out, and was not heroin thin. Back to Carey, and there were a few suspects, including a nice brunette on the corner. However, some A**h**e behind me going a hundred miles an hour got on my tail and I thought he was going to hit me. I was not going that slow, but the light was green and he honked me from his pimp-mobile, and making a split second decision I went the wrong way headed back towards PP. Over on PP it was ptretty dead. Saw a few of the usual suspects. Over to Conkling and saw a pretty (from a distance) SW I had seen out many times, but who used to work in a different area, but I have seen her over by Conkling recently. Decided I wanted to meet her and the pickings had been slim so far. Finally managed to get onto a side street where I could get her attention and she hopped in. Off we went. She did not look as good up close. She is pretty, but her face is pockmarked. She looked really familiar. When she told me her name I immediately recognized her as a dancer from a gentlemen's club. She did not recognize me. She said she is now dancing at the block, but had taken a week off. I think I had seen her on the streets before that though. Did not do the "are you a cop" thing. Went to my location, and I asked her to show me her lesson plan. She said she needed tuition before she could even show me the plan, but I insisted. I told her I wanted the whole plan, but she declined, and just wanted to teach one subject, because she had a friend visiting at home and did not have a lot of time. The body was ok, nice enhanced breasts that were softer than I remembered :-) She asked for a slightly larger donation than average for the lesson she wanted to give and I agreed, with the tuition up front. I agreed. However, she needs to brush up on her teaching methods, because I just wasn't understanding the lesson. So she switch to the old fashioned method, at my request and at last I got the gist of her teaching. Dropped her back where I found her. I might repeat sometime when her friend is away, as I like the ex-stripper thing. Just one time though. Passed Hapden going up-town, and not a soul in sight.

Dr. Monger

Dr.Monger

05-27-03, 00:17

Just a thought on former strippers/escorts turned SW. The one I mentioned in the post directly below, and the one mentioned in last weeks post both had major 'tudes at one time or another. One had blown me off when I saw her at a lingere show just weeks before she hit the streets, depsite having seen me outside her club for a private show. The other had been a major b**** in the club. However, once they reach the street, both were much nicer. Weird. Nice payback though to get lessons for street prices :-)

Dr. Monger

TrashMan

05-27-03, 03:14

Paland makes a good point that basically goes to the old saying about one man's trash is another man's treasure. That's also affected by how horny you are as well as how partially shitfaced you are, ie. how strong are the beer goggles that night.

I mean either the girls get better looking as the night wears on or I become way less picky as the thought of the only strange I might get that night may be my left hand!

Some guys like meat on the bones and big booties. I like waif thin girls that other guys would say were skinny. Hottie refers to several attributes...age, face, weight and body shape, attitude, and sleaze factor and each guy has his own unique set of measuring sticks. Just enjoy but try to rate with as much honesty as possible and better yet, just describe her by the attributes mentioned above.

Paland

05-27-03, 08:11

Hey dr. I was just poking a little fun at you but Trashman is right too.

Cassidy

05-27-03, 10:33

Gentlemen,

Made a pass through the Washington Blvd area, near Carey, this morning and there were 5-6 SW out a about. Most were on the side streets (thanks for that info on checking the sides, for the newbies, newer than me that is, that is the kind on good advise you find here). I did not have the time to stop, but several of the SW were definite possibilities. I am planning on heading back that way for lunch, and I will report on any interesting findings.

Be safe and have fun!

dickweed

05-27-03, 14:45

Whattup fellas. I will be in Baltimore next week and I wanted to check out a Massage Parlor if they have them there. Where should I look to find them? Do you have a weekly alternative newspaper or anything like that? Anybody have a direct suggestion of a good place. I prefer Asian MPs.

Thanks for the help!

LexLuther

05-27-03, 20:31

Dickweed,

You will find a number of massage parlors in Balto. and the surrounding areas. Almost without exception they are run by Koreans and staffed by Koreans.

You can find ads for them in the sports section of the Baltimore Sun as well as the Washington Post. Don't overlook the ones outside of Baltimore like Maui Health Center in Elkridge, Hana Spa in Ellicott City, Rainbow and Shiatsu in Jessup and Lily Spa in Laurel. There are also a great number of them in Washington, D.C.

Rotsa Ruck!

LexLuther

Ebdawgg

05-28-03, 00:35

Hey Dr. Monger - thanks for the kind offer; I'll be sending you my new e-mail for the yahoo club. You've seemed to really take to this hobby and your stories are invaluable to those who don't read the posts or do searches on handles but should... If the new guys wanna be getting it like Trashman or Dr. Monger than may be they should read a little Trashman or Dr.M...

During my recent passes through the eastside I have seen a huge decline in the numbers of SWs out in the usual spots. The eastside seems really dead and warmer weather hasn't changed things. There are still some SWs but not as many as even a few years ago. I'm sure LE enjoys reading this. In the past, the general condition of and LE presence in the southwest (W/W) has kept me away but perhaps it is now the fertile hunting ground.

From about 93-96 or so I had the opportunity to cruise the southwest area and found that it's proximity to hardcore drug areas brought LE though in large numbers and the condition of the neighborhood made mongers standout - they're generally driving nicer cars than what's indiginous to the neighborhood. Do any of the W/W regulars feel this way?

I always wonder why some mongers take conspicuous cars out for this hobby; I mean the Benzes and the Jags and the Porsches really stand out and I can spot the cruisers in a second. My favorite though was the guy I saw picking up SWs in PP with an "I [heart] Patterson Park" sticker. I didn't think that was what was meant by those stickers but I guess he loves the place and wanted to show it.

I'll have a chance to do some scouting over the next few days and will report on what I find. I have a few contacts I want to make to see if I can get a sense of what's going on in the SE.

happy hunting

Razors

05-28-03, 14:40

Made a good connection Tuesday night.

Short story, hooked up with Jennifer on Washington around 10:30. She was walking north from Caton. I pulled into Gable and pulled to the side. She hopped in. My guess is that she is in mid-30's, but looks 40+. Rest of her is fine. In the words of the immortal Jonathan Winters "Not much up top but from the neck down, gangbusters!" Blondish hair, face I'd put at a 3 or 4, body 8. C cup tits, with nice nipples that firmed up during the session. Slim with nice wide hips with a pert butt. Partially shaved, well groomed. We found a place to park and 25 got me BBBJTCIM. Energetic and enthusiastic. Only downside is that the only time she'd shut up is when the trousersnake was in her mouth, pleasant tho. She was buzzed, alchohol rather than illegal drugs is her weakness. Got her #, we briefly discussed getting together closer to DC. She lives in Laurel but works the Wshington blvd area so friends/family wont see her. If it works out and she approves will share her #.

Long story, was able to get free and began cruising the Wilkens/Washington Blvd area. I made a pass through right at 8:00 - still light out - and saw a couple SWs about but there were families hanging out, including kids etc.. so I didnt feel comfortable picking anybody up. Instead I just cruised the area getting a bit more comfortable with the area.
Grabbed a bite at McD's off Washington and started cruising again around 9:00.

With the sun down there was quite a bit of difference. The difference between night and day. Saw three WSWs along Washington between Caton & Desoto. A hag, a slightly Hispanic looking lady and a young lady it took three passes to identify. Each time I went past she was walking the other way so I couldnt get a look at her face, traffice was too heavy to crawl by and check out. third pass I could tell she was pretty - a 7 or so. By the time I got turned around for the fourth pass and a pickup attempt she was gone. "he who hesitates..."

With plenty of time to look things over I thought I'd check out the Patapsco/Fairhaven area. What a rat's nest! I turned off down there and saw a single blonde, but wasnt sure she was a SW the way she was holding a big key chain, could have been heading to a car. Drove around back there and came back along Fairhaven towards Patapsco and there was the blond and a lanky brunette both now giving "the look". I went left (west) on Patapsco and tried to swing back without doing a U on Patapsco but got twisted around that area and by the time I got staightened out and was heading back I saw no less 8 vehicles turn down Fairhaven immediately ahead of me. I passed on the area and headed back to Wilkens. Unless someone posts of a major change in the area I'll not head there again.

Hiting 9:30 and things were very dry. Absolutely nothing along Carey and very little along Wilkens. One WSW was too desperate for me, looked ok but dont like being shouted and waved at. Made a drive around, Wilkens and parallel streets a couple times then saw the same LE twice so moved on out. Ended up on Washington where I picked up Jennifer.

Bingo

05-28-03, 14:53

Originally posted by ebdawgg
I always wonder why some mongers take conspicuous cars out for this hobby; I mean the Benzes and the Jags and the Porsches really stand out and I can spot the cruisers in a second. I imagine partly out of necessity (only have one car), and partly I don't think it truly matters.

I tried cruising in my new Bimmer through some well known open air drug markets over the last two months looking for new hunting grounds (no consistent luck BTW, I've pretty much given up on that theory, unless your interest is BSW, in which case tons to be found!!) and never got pulled over once. Now these areas are literally crawling with LE (whereas W/W, PP, etc are simply patrolled +/- the occasional vice sting), and in these neighborhoods any car over $30k is way noticeable.

What I guess, then, is that simply driving around isn't enough to get you in trouble - and any car pulling up to the curb with a girl hopping right on in is going to catch a cop's eye. Granted maybe a cop will remember seeing a red 911 driving by twice much more than a blue Escort doing the same, but personally I don't circuit any of the hunting grounds more than two or three times before moving on, anyways (especially if my radar picks up LE, marked or unmarked, in the area).

Actually the real downside might be that the SW might expect more $$ from Benzes than from Hyundais... but with experience I've decided that they'll all do it for bottom dollar, because no matter how horny I might be their need is greater than mine....

On a different note, I've tried the AM cruising thing lately with no luck. Perhaps its the off-and-on rain, but between 9a-12n no real takers at any of the popular spots. Maybe the occasional skank. I will try the early riser thing (6a-9a) mentioned a long time ago soon, maybe that'll work out better. Still vote for 11p+ as the 100% satisfaction guaranteed time.

Last note, for those who frequent the W/W area if you pick up a girl called "Diamond" (21, waif, great face, long blonde hair) you may get freaked out by her hands (some sort of surgery/skin graft in the past) but I recommend pursuing it further as she gives the best oral I've had so far. FS probably not worth the extra cash, she has a fetish about not pulling her trousers past her thighs (skin graft scars, she says).

dickweed

05-28-03, 15:06

Lex-

You da man. Thanks a lot!

DW

Tonto

05-28-03, 23:20

Wed day time report

Decieded to check out the areas today and it was dry all over. Started out on W/W - Carey loop and saw nothing so headed over to Brooklyn. Lots of people out walking about but none that looked like they were working so headed to PP. Again nothing so went back to W/W. On Wilkins saw two that looked decent but there were several LE cars cruising about so headed to Washington. Only saw one there, on Wash and Carey. It was the same one I missed last Sunday. Young and dark blond hair. If any of you guys drive an all white panel van with no markings, you were right in front of me and picked her up just as I was pulling over. All of this was between 5:30 and about 6:30. How am I ever going to pop my sw cherry when someone else always seems to get there before me. All I can do is keep trying.

BTW, saw no LE anywhere except on Wilkens.

Genre

05-29-03, 00:49

Finally getting a break in the weather, and nearing the end of the month, I figured I'd cruise some of the loops and enjoy the view. On Wilkens, around 6:30pm, several dirty blond WSWs, generally older in appearance, bodies seemed nice, but faces were well worn.
Moving on to Washington, lots of people out, two more between Carey and Caton.

Ran down to Fairhaven, a really cute, young, WSW with a pony tail. Gave me the look, but I was only window-shopping today – but I was very tempted. She got right into the truck behind me. Another 1 maybe 2 older SWs. Drove around a little, then I went back to Washington, at least 4 more up to Carey.

Now about 7:30, back on Wilkens before Monroe, three or four more, most with Black male companions. I did some side street cruising, nothing definite. Using Monroe, saw one very poor quality brunette at Eagle, and another WSW previously noticed on Washington.

Interestingly, this is the first time I did not notice any obvious BSWs during my travels.

That’s the limit for today’s observations.

Question, Are there any closer suitable motels (short term or otherwise) to this area than the Washington/695 area?

Dr.Monger

05-29-03, 18:34

Another evening, another scouting report.

Started off with a PP/Conkling run. Not much by PP, but a few suspects and one or two definites over by Conkling. As is always the case, most of them snapped up very quickly.

Headed over to W/W. SW alley was dead. One or two older ugly ones on Wash by Carey. Then later saw a slim hot chick walking in tight jeans. Nice long hair. Young Thin. met all the criteria. But there was LE to spoil my fun! It was a marked car, and It was on the same block as the hottie. I went down and turned around and got to the corner as she was walking by. There was no doubt she was walking as I recognized her from The Block. I had always thought she was incredibly hot, but her prices in the club were too high. And I know she is an addict. She looked damn good. Serious eye contact as she walked by my car, but made no move to get in. I held her gaze the whole way as she walked by. I should have nodded or somthing. I turned around but she was gone! Missed it by that much...well perhaps I shall see her again.
Continued the W/W loop. Saw my stinky non-friend but passed. Saw a blonde with butt length hair down Wilkens who was clearly a SW. A few other suspects, but no one worth mentioning.

Dr. Monger

VA Man #2

05-29-03, 19:17

Going to be traveling to Baltimore next month and I'm looking for the best place to get BJ or FS. I'll only be there during daytime, so is a MP the best place? Anyone recomend a good MP. Also looking for some good info on "the block". Which is the best club to get some action for the best price? Is a BBBJ anywhere to be found? Any info would be greatly appreciated.

Paland

05-29-03, 19:56

Before anybody starts with that I am posting this on the wrong board save your breath (except for Mr. Jackson that is). I don't like reporting on AC board because of little to no feed back and I believe that discussion of casino and street action is not appreciated. Anyway, I was in AC earlier this week on business. Stayed at one of the big hotels. After having evening business taken care of I started hitting a few of the casino bars looking for local talent. Saw several at one bar around 11 PM but not my type. Went to several others along the board walk. Not much happening. Went to the bar area of the hotel that I was staying at and they had live music there which draws some people in. Started looking around for the single women moving around. Spotted one sitting at a table by herself while I was having a conversation with a guy at the bar. The cocktail watress asked her to order a drink or leave the table which she gets up and stands behind railing listening to the music. This tells me that she is probably not a working girl but needing some money. She is good looking, about 23 y.o., 5'4", 105 # and A cup. I signal her to come over and sit at the bar. She acts like "who me". Another signal from me and she comes over and sits down. I buy her a drink and we talk for an half hour and listen to the band. She gives me the hard luck story having lost her money gambling and the she was with her aunt who is from NYC. I buy her another drink thinking maybe we can help each other out here. Every thing looking up here until she said "would you mind if my aunt sat with us". Shit no I am thinking.That pretty much put rained out the game before it even started. Not much to do but be pleasant, bought the aunt a drink and had some conversation. Getting time for me to go especially with nothing happening here. I slip my room number to her and said if she was interested come on up. She didn't say anything and gave no indication one way or the other. I go back to my room, have a few more drinks, try calling a service I use some times, no body available at this time. Turn the lights off and go to sleep. About an hour later the phone is ringing. Its the lady from the bar, says go to the door and let her in. I did. After some small talk she says go get her some cigs, a can of pepsi and condoms. I did and we did. I had the most incredible time for the next several hours. When finished, she offered phone number (she is from midwest, so she says) and I tell her it isn't necessary unless she wants a call in a month or so, she says yes. I do get within 60 miles of where she lives a couple times a year so maybe it's worth trying the number later. Anyway, she gets ready to leave, not a word about milk money but I gave her some grants before she left. Moral of the story.....can't catch fish unless your line is in the water.