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SeekingHead
03-30-23, 15:18
I just got a call from a former sugar baby that I had seen for maybe 4-6 weeks who I stopped seeing a couple of weeks ago. She said that she is pregnant with my kid and wants an abortion, but she's only willing to do a surgical abortion where she's under anesthesia in North Carolina. She's asking for $3200 for the procedure. And she refuses to take the abortion pill or any other procedure.
I want to believe her, but I'm worried that I'm being scammed. Does anyone have advice on what I should do?I'd call her bluff & setup a doctors appointment to get a pregnancy test done by a medical professional. $100 she goes radio silent.
I just got a call from a former sugar baby that I had seen for maybe 4-6 weeks who I stopped seeing a couple of weeks ago. She said that she is pregnant with my kid and wants an abortion, but she's only willing to do a surgical abortion where she's under anesthesia in North Carolina. She's asking for $3200 for the procedure. And she refuses to take the abortion pill or any other procedure.
I want to believe her, but I'm worried that I'm being scammed. Does anyone have advice on what I should do?Can you confirm you were the only one she was fucking with or not? Why does a chick that is 4-6 weeks pregnant need a surgical abortion? Why acknowledge her request in the first place? This abortion can be done by taking one of those pills or they suck the dam baby out. Cost no where near that price. You know it is a scam yet your believing it for some odd reason. The baby is that big that it requires a surgery? Question everything yourself. Next time you decide to cream. Maybe insure she is taking a contraceptive. Chick is traveling and wants your money. After that will want more.
MariettaJoe
03-30-23, 15:43
It seems highly suspicious to me. I would take her to a pregnancy test place and make sure she is pregnant. Nowadays, they can also do DNA test. I think she just wants to scam you.
That's the problem with these SBs. So shortage of scams in their mind. A friend of mine faced similar situation 10+ years ago. He spent so much money on the kid and loved the boy as his own. Turned out the kid was from someone else, she just needed someone who is reliable and makes money to take care of her and the money. Found out about it after asking for DNA test. So first, check her pregnancy. Second, ask for DNA. They can check DNA inside mother.
P.S. I really want to have a child. If I were in that situation, I would ask her to keep the baby. But that's my situation.It's not cheap to do an in-utero DNA test, but it's cheaper than what she's asking for with the abortion, and much cheaper than 18 years of child support.
HighPockets64
03-30-23, 16:43
Current situation. I am 53 years old and one of my currents (9-10 months) has recently started an only fans account. This has allowed her (27 year old) to quit one of her two jobs and she has been making pretty good money at it. Most of her requests lately have been to fuck on camera. She asked me to be the guy in the video and she has managed to keep my face and voice out of her production. Since we started this. Her account has tripled. Not because of me, but because the demand for that is much greater than just nudes and masturbation. She suggested to me that maybe I look into Viagra or Cialis to be able to go twice back to back. This would us allow to film a couple of videos per session. I have never partaken of the stuff and was wanting some feedback. My questions are:
1. Do you lose sensation?
2. Do you last longer?
3. Can you go back to back pretty quickly?
4. Are there side effects to deal with?
There are already several good explanations on your question. I just wanted to add my experience with it all since taking.
I am 58 Years old and having been using the Generic for Viagra for about 8 years now started using at 50 mg 1/2 a pill and eventually graduated maybe 3 years ago to a whole 100 mg pill.
For me I can go about 20 minutes. I actually wear out- get winded sometimes before I can finish. Take a 10–15-minute break and go again till finish.
I have no problem same day about 6-8 hours later getting hard again for a second round and pop.
I really believe almost everyone is different on the effects of the 2 pills. Like Cialis works for me but I can't go as long as I can when on Viagra- I think I lose some sensitivity with Viagra that Cialis doesn't cause me to lose. I don't get a stuffy nose unless I am getting a massage with my face down in the donut hole for a while- then I get a stuffy nose. But it clears up pretty fast once I roll over.
My biggest suggestion to you is to call around. Don't take it to your pharmacy and just fill it- you will be amazed at the price differences. I have a friend that gets his at Publix without insurance 30 pills for $30.00 - I get mine at the Medicine shop for 15 pills for $18.00 Just depends on how you fill it- I like to keep fresh pills so I don't fill more than 15 at a time.
Kind of jealous of your situation with the 27-year-old. Good Luck to you!!
Man it sounds like you are in a pickle. You hear about women all the time planning an exit strategy as a way to cash out on an arrangement so they can come out ahead. I try to follow common sense. Who would want to travel 2-3 states away for a surgical procedure that's invasive instead of just popping a pill? Then the cost seems high, extremely high. Almost seems as if she expected more money out of the arrangement, it ended abruptly and now she's trying to make sure she makes her bank and cash you out. Tread carefully. Ripper.Yeah, that's what my suspicions are as well. I told her that I'm not comfortable giving her thousands of dollars blindly, and now she's barraging me with texts and threats. She wrote that she'll be reaching out to my side of the family, and job, etc. It looks like I made a really bad decision hooking up with this one. This whole experience has made me regret going into this lifestyle. Stay safe out there, boys.
NewAnonymousName
03-30-23, 18:41
Yeah, that's what my suspicions are as well. I told her that I'm not comfortable giving her thousands of dollars blindly, and now she's barraging me with texts and threats. She wrote that she'll be reaching out to my side of the family, and job, etc. It looks like I made a really bad decision hooking up with this one. This whole experience has made me regret going into this lifestyle. Stay safe out there, boys.Hopefully you never gave her your real name.
Is she still claiming to be pregnant in her barrage of texts and threats? I bet not. It sounds like she's just trying every angle to scam some extra money.
Who is she? Please share the link or a picture or both. The rest of us need to know who to avoid.
Yeah, that's what my suspicions are as well. I told her that I'm not comfortable giving her thousands of dollars blindly, and now she's barraging me with texts and threats. She wrote that she'll be reaching out to my side of the family, and job, etc. It looks like I made a really bad decision hooking up with this one. This whole experience has made me regret going into this lifestyle. Stay safe out there, boys.I knew this pregnancy thing was a scam. Do you have friends in law enforcement? If not, I suggest reaching out to a good lawyer. Those lawyers can be as intimidating as law enforcement. Under no circumstances give her any money because it will be just the beginning. It's best to deal with this situation using a lawyer or a friend in law enforcement. I have a friend who was guest of the government in federal house, I always keep him close just in case. I also have a friend in law enforcement. They serve as insurance.
Hopefully things will get resolved. I feel for you. Things have really changed. It seems that every girl on the corner is just trying to scam us.
SalvatoreIttup
03-30-23, 19:15
Yeah, that's what my suspicions are as well. I told her that I'm not comfortable giving her thousands of dollars blindly, and now she's barraging me with texts and threats. She wrote that she'll be reaching out to my side of the family, and job, etc. It looks like I made a really bad decision hooking up with this one. This whole experience has made me regret going into this lifestyle. Stay safe out there, boys.Hang in there! It's probably nothing, especially with no proof!! Recently, I got a text from a random unsaved # stating that they would inform my girlfriend that I pay for massages with happy endings, and that she had texts of me booking with her, but she never even included any of them. Claimed if I sent her $1,000 that she would stay quiet, but all she used to try to scare me was possible booking texts, which really doesn't even incriminate me in any way, and my girlfriend has already seen my texts and doesn't care because she doesn't like to rub my back anyway.
HoWhisperer
03-30-23, 19:30
Yeah, that's what my suspicions are as well. I told her that I'm not comfortable giving her thousands of dollars blindly, and now she's barraging me with texts and threats. She wrote that she'll be reaching out to my side of the family, and job, etc. It looks like I made a really bad decision hooking up with this one. This whole experience has made me regret going into this lifestyle. Stay safe out there, boys.
Who is she? Please share the link or a picture or both. The rest of us need to know who to avoid.Telling the rest of us who she is will help us but you need to know everything about her you can find out to protect yourself. In my experience these gals always assume they have no skin in the game and sometimes need a reminder that who loses the most is a relative concept. Know her real name? Address? Criminal background? If so, then there is the Muutally Assured Destruction (MAD) option where you simply gently remind her that if she decides to sink your boat then she better be willing to tread water with a cinderblock tied to her ankle. I had a gal once threaten me after I cut things off; but when I responded saying that while I could not stop her from doing what she was going to do, I could make sure that if it went bad for me I would be legally obligated to respond to LE's "has anyone threatened you" question with her legal name, where she worked and the fact that I overheard someone mention that she had an outstanding warrant. . . . never heard from her again.
LouisHernandez
03-30-23, 19:31
Yeah, that's what my suspicions are as well. I told her that I'm not comfortable giving her thousands of dollars blindly, and now she's barraging me with texts and threats. She wrote that she'll be reaching out to my side of the family, and job, etc. It looks like I made a really bad decision hooking up with this one. This whole experience has made me regret going into this lifestyle. Stay safe out there, boys.Did she give off any red flags to indicate this behavior? How many times did you hang out with her?
I've popped in a few crazies during my time, I'm just lucky this has never happened to me. When I was hitting a 2 or 3 a month back in the day I was changing my phone number every few months, maybe that helped.
Anyway no more CIP anytime soon for me. I just got scared stiff. Thanks
NewAnonymousName
03-30-23, 20:41
Did she give off any red flags to indicate this behavior? How many times did you hang out with her?
I've popped in a few crazies during my time, I'm just lucky this has never happened to me. When I was hitting a 2 or 3 a month back in the day I was changing my phone number every few months, maybe that helped.
Anyway no more CIP anytime soon for me. I just got scared stiff. ThanksMore like scared soft.
Tip your waitresses. I'll be doing standup here all week.
Hopefully you never gave her your real name.
Is she still claiming to be pregnant in her barrage of texts and threats? I bet not. It sounds like she's just trying every angle to scam some extra money.
Who is she? Please share the link or a picture or both. The rest of us need to know who to avoid.I don't have a link to profile on SA, but I do have pictures I can share. These are the photos that she used on her SA account.
And DM me for the phone number she uses, because I don't think we're allowed to share personal information on this board. She says she works as a nurse.
Did she give off any red flags to indicate this behavior? How many times did you hang out with her?
I've popped in a few crazies during my time, I'm just lucky this has never happened to me. When I was hitting a 2 or 3 a month back in the day I was changing my phone number every few months, maybe that helped.
Anyway no more CIP anytime soon for me. I just got scared stiff. ThanksI didn't see any red flags in the beginning other than that she was DTF, but she asked for recent STD results and we were good. We met up like 4 times, maybe 5 times maximum, and the last time was back in the beginning of the month. I didn't even cum in her that time, because she said she had switched birth control. Obviously, it is still possible that she got pregnant, but lower likelihood. But it is possible. She was never a great lay, usually in and out, so I cut her loose.
She kept messaging me to meet, and I dodged her until I finally told her that I found someone else. Then the toxic behavior started to occur with the pregnancy thing over the last few days. If she is really pregnant her behavior has been very suspicious. I hope my story is a cautionary tale for everyone else to be careful. She started texting me photos from a new phone showing me that she found my personal information.
NewAnonymousName
03-31-23, 10:41
I didn't see any red flags in the beginning other than that she was DTF, but she asked for recent STD results and we were good. We met up like 4 times, maybe 5 times maximum, and the last time was back in the beginning of the month. I didn't even cum in her that time, because she said she had switched birth control. Obviously, it is still possible that she got pregnant, but lower likelihood. But it is possible. She was never a great lay, usually in and out, so I cut her loose.
She kept messaging me to meet, and I dodged her until I finally told her that I found someone else. Then the toxic behavior started to occur with the pregnancy thing over the last few days. If she is really pregnant her behavior has been very suspicious. I hope my story is a cautionary tale for everyone else to be careful. She started texting me photos from a new phone showing me that she found my personal information.She may go quiet if you ignore her for a couple days. If she continues, you should consider telling her that what she's doing -- extortion -- is a serious crime, you're saving her threatening texts, and you're going to the cops to have her arrested and prosecuted if she continues down this path.
Maybe you should let the rest of us know here user name so we stay away.
LouisHernandez
03-31-23, 12:18
I don't have a link to profile on SA, but I do have pictures I can share. These are the photos that she used on her SA account.
And DM me for the phone number she uses, because I don't think we're allowed to share personal information on this board. She says she works as a nurse.Oh man. No wonder. She's smoking hot.
I don't have a link to profile on SA, but I do have pictures I can share. These are the photos that she used on her SA account.
And DM me for the phone number she uses, because I don't think we're allowed to share personal information on this board. She says she works as a nurse.Is that what you're getting on SA regularly. PM some info on her. I'll gladly light that up and chuckle when she calls on that pregnant shit. I'm snipped and tucked bro.
SoonerFan72
03-31-23, 13:09
I don't have a link to profile on SA, but I do have pictures I can share. These are the photos that she used on her SA account.
And DM me for the phone number she uses, because I don't think we're allowed to share personal information on this board. She says she works as a nurse.Is it this chic? I was just chatting with her yesterday if it was.
https://members.seeking.com/member/085851d8-5625-4f1d-98a3-27f1a6a68f93
She is a pro, her number brings up lots of hits. I bailed once I found out she was a pro.
https://sumosear.ch/images/webpage/spanish-princess/51626897
I don't have a link to profile on SA, but I do have pictures I can share. These are the photos that she used on her SA account.
And DM me for the phone number she uses, because I don't think we're allowed to share personal information on this board. She says she works as a nurse.Appreciate the share and warning. You are in a tight position since the extortion attempt is ongoing and you still identified her to the board. Good man. I pray one of these white knights don't reach out to her and make your situation worse since she has your personal information. Ripper.
I didn't see any red flags in the beginning other than that she was DTF, but she asked for recent STD results and we were good. We met up like 4 times, maybe 5 times maximum, and the last time was back in the beginning of the month. I didn't even cum in her that time, because she said she had switched birth control. Obviously, it is still possible that she got pregnant, but lower likelihood. But it is possible. She was never a great lay, usually in and out, so I cut her loose.
She kept messaging me to meet, and I dodged her until I finally told her that I found someone else. Then the toxic behavior started to occur with the pregnancy thing over the last few days. If she is really pregnant her behavior has been very suspicious. I hope my story is a cautionary tale for everyone else to be careful. She started texting me photos from a new phone showing me that she found my personal information.She's probably feeling a bit scorned that you turned her loose. The best way to cut a girl loose, especially if she's very pretty, is to tell her you'll be going out of town for work. Don't EVER tell 'em you've found someone else. Also, always act polite and pretend like you're still interested when she texts but always tell her you're out of town and cannot see her. She'll gradually drift away and find some other dude to fleece.
Is it this chic? I was just chatting with her yesterday if it was.
https://members.seeking.com/member/085851d8-5625-4f1d-98a3-27f1a6a68f93
She is a pro, her number brings up lots of hits. I bailed once I found out she was a pro.
https://sumosear.ch/images/webpage/spanish-princess/51626897No, that's not her.
Is it this chic? I was just chatting with her yesterday if it was.
https://members.seeking.com/member/085851d8-5625-4f1d-98a3-27f1a6a68f93
She is a pro, her number brings up lots of hits. I bailed once I found out she was a pro.
https://sumosear.ch/images/webpage/spanish-princess/51626897Yep, it is.
GoneForGood97
03-31-23, 15:18
Yeah, that's what my suspicions are as well. I told her that I'm not comfortable giving her thousands of dollars blindly, and now she's barraging me with texts and threats. She wrote that she'll be reaching out to my side of the family, and job, etc. It looks like I made a really bad decision hooking up with this one. This whole experience has made me regret going into this lifestyle. Stay safe out there, boys.If a SB knows enough about you that she can credibly threaten to out you to your family or job, you've done a poor job of hobbying. There are hundreds of post in just his thread, and probably 1000's across the entire board, with tips on how to protect yourself.
Don't use your real phone number. Don't give them your real name. Don't facebook friend them. If you plan on using snapchat make up a fake account name. If you're texting SBs with your real ph# and not a disposable number from dozens of different options (Google voice, tracphone, MySudo just to name a few) then I hate to say it but you fucked up in a major, major way.
If an SB I was seeing came at me with this shit, I would immediately go dark. Delete the ph# from the anonymous app I use, and be done with her. Go back into seeking, unshare any pics I shared, and block her account. She'd have no way to track me down unless she was smart enough to get my license plate down before trying to scam me.
If it were an SB I had been seeing awhile, had developed a trust with, and it felt more like dating than whoring, then I'd offer to take her to the clinic for the procedure, but she wouldn't get dictate to me what type of procedure. That's the doctor's decision, and any money I pay would go directly to the medical practice to pay for the visit, and NOT to her.
I don't have a link to profile on SA, but I do have pictures I can share. These are the photos that she used on her SA account.
And DM me for the phone number she uses, because I don't think we're allowed to share personal information on this board. She says she works as a nurse.You have 2 options: cops or lawyer. Giving her money isn't an option because it will be beginning of extortion. You can hire a tech professional who could find her identity and as much information as possible. These dumb girls post their entire life on social media. You can leverage that information and tell her that you're going to the cops for extortion. . And this thing ain't no nurse, she looks like a pro.
NewAnonymousName
03-31-23, 17:15
Yep, it is.It is or it isn't her? You said no and then yes in successive posts.
FarFarAway
03-31-23, 19:12
I am really trying to figure out what I need to do to make my pix anonymous from facial recognition. I ran this profile photo of a POT I have been messaging w /, and the site could not identify a face. So, that is one strategy that doesn't rely on a filter.
I located another means to thwart facial rec, a program called Fawkes. However, what you have to do is run all of your photos through it and then post them. That prevents the different FacRec engines from forming a model they can use to identify your photos. You essentially 'dilute' the data they need with these new cloaked photos. For what is already out there on the web, I have been asking people to take them down, or to substitute a cloaked photo.
LikeMike1963
03-31-23, 19:32
May be too late for this but I would tell her to take that scam somewhere else as you had a vasectomy. Even if you have not.... worse case you can always come back and say the only way you will pay is if you go with her..
Yeah, that's what my suspicions are as well. I told her that I'm not comfortable giving her thousands of dollars blindly, and now she's barraging me with texts and threats. She wrote that she'll be reaching out to my side of the family, and job, etc. It looks like I made a really bad decision hooking up with this one. This whole experience has made me regret going into this lifestyle. Stay safe out there, boys.
Peter Johnson
03-31-23, 20:23
I just got a call from a former sugar baby that I had seen for maybe 4-6 weeks who I stopped seeing a couple of weeks ago. She said that she is pregnant with my kid and wants an abortion, but she's only willing to do a surgical abortion where she's under anesthesia in North Carolina. She's asking for $3200 for the procedure. And she refuses to take the abortion pill or any other procedure.
I want to believe her, but I'm worried that I'm being scammed. Does anyone have advice on what I should do?If it was me, I would just offer to take her to get the abortion and pay for it. Do you want to take a chance that she's really pregnant and then have to pay child support for 18 years?
$3200 is a bargain if she's really pregnant. And she probably isn't, but it's dangerous to call her bluff.
I had this happen to me, many year ago, with a regular POF girl that I saw a few times. I told her I would take her to the clinic and pay, and then I never heard from her again.
It is or it isn't her? You said no and then yes in successive posts.The SA link is her, but the second link is not. I replied after clicking the sumo link only, but then realized the first one was correct.
If it was me, I would just offer to take her to get the abortion and pay for it. Do you want to take a chance that she's really pregnant and then have to pay child support for 18 years?
$3200 is a bargain if she's really pregnant. And she probably isn't, but it's dangerous to call her bluff.
I had this happen to me, many year ago, with a regular POF girl that I saw a few times. I told her I would take her to the clinic and pay, and then I never heard from her again.That's actually what I proposed, but then she countered that she would never let me accompany her as she is going with her mom and best friend. This is one of the red flags that I got from the whole exchange. It was very suspect from the beginning. Then today she said that she would be willing to take the pill, but that the cost would be $1600. I said that sounds high, and she said to do my research. I strongly believe now that she is trying to hustle me.
That's actually what I proposed, but then she countered that she would never let me accompany her as she is going with her mom and best friend. This is one of the red flags that I got from the whole exchange. It was very suspect from the beginning. Then today she said that she would be willing to take the pill, but that the cost would be $1600. I said that sounds high, and she said to do my research. I strongly believe now that she is trying to hustle me.This is 100% scam, no doubt about that. She is a pro and she has used this scam on dozens of men probably. The problem with these trash people is that they never stop. Once you give her money, you will be the golden goose. What's there to stop her? Think about that. I think you should respond that you need to consult with your lawyer about that and your lawyer is going to take over from this point on.
LouisHernandez
03-31-23, 22:12
I am really trying to figure out what I need to do to make my pix anonymous from facial recognition. I ran this profile photo of a POT I have been messaging w /, and the site could not identify a face. So, that is one strategy that doesn't rely on a filter.
I located another means to thwart facial rec, a program called Fawkes. However, what you have to do is run all of your photos through it and then post them. That prevents the different FacRec engines from forming a model they can use to identify your photos. You essentially 'dilute' the data they need with these new cloaked photos. For what is already out there on the web, I have been asking people to take them down, or to substitute a cloaked photo.Looks interesting. Excellent find, thanks for sharing.
LouisHernandez
03-31-23, 22:15
This is 100% scam, no doubt about that. She is a pro and she has used this scam on dozens of men probably. The problem with these trash people is that they never stop. Once you give her money, you will be the golden goose. What's there to stop her? Think about that. I think you should respond that you need to consult with your lawyer about that and your lawyer is going to take over from this point on.I'm just impressed he scored with this hot pro BBFSCIP. How much was that?
Never used the gifting option on SA but was curious as to if they get a notification that somethings been purchased for them? I have this one potential sb I am very interested in but they haven't been online in a few weeks, I was wondering if I sent them a gift would they get a notification? TIA.
Shizzy6969
04-02-23, 11:39
Yes they do get a notice. However, I'd caution against using this as a way to "ping" for notice. There a hundred reasons why a potential sb goes radio silent. Gift for response seems to be aggressive.
Never used the gifting option on SA but was curious as to if they get a notification that somethings been purchased for them? I have this one potential sb I am very interested in but they haven't been online in a few weeks, I was wondering if I sent them a gift would they get a notification? TIA.
FarFarAway
04-02-23, 13:32
Never used the gifting option on SA but was curious as to if they get a notification that somethings been purchased for them? I have this one potential sb I am very interested in but they haven't been online in a few weeks, I was wondering if I sent them a gift would they get a notification? TIA.If you view the wish list, you get an email when she adds something to it. I am 99% sure that she also gets an email that you viewed it. I have had girls message me with questions like 'would you like to get me a gift, I saw you viewed my list?
I definitely use the wish list and favoriting as a way to get a girls attention. Some of these literally get dozens and dozens of messages per day. Many of them are throw-aways, but still, a way to stand out is useful.
I have never gotten a gift for a girl. The minimum $ is about $40. I have been tempted when I didn't have a paid membership to try to use this as a mode of communication. Not cost efficient though.
I have seen other posts that say that a girl can accept or decline the specific gift you send, but still gets the $ value to spend on what she wants.
Of course, all of the stuff on there is overpriced. There is a Michael Kors purse they have like $450. There is an outlet near me where I can pick it up for $100. I definitely have given gifts of the latter value to an ongoing SB I really liked, and vice versa. That is an investment. She relocated out of the area so we aren't regulars anymore, but when she returns to visit her family, we always meet for FC.
LouisHernandez
04-02-23, 13:49
Never used the gifting option on SA but was curious as to if they get a notification that somethings been purchased for them? I have this one potential sb I am very interested in but they haven't been online in a few weeks, I was wondering if I sent them a gift would they get a notification? TIA.Don't ever do that. That's SIMPing 101.
Cash after services are rendered or you'll just get scammed.
Joined seeking again after an year, since my long time sb has gone radio silent and LOL everything changed now, met couple of them recently but lot of them don't like the $$ - $$$ any more. Everyone wants to discuss with 5 $ as a start. Many of them seem to make $$ just with online content. And with the recent posts it is making me question myself is it even worth pursuing this style of dating.
Janedoe3.
https://members.seeking.com/member/09d318ce-1de4-4d19-aadf-e54de2b3cb0e
Only interested in selling online content.
Layla.
https://members.seeking.com/member/3415b65f-700c-4d1a-b53b-e04c33fddff2
Real profile, no consistency with scheduling.
Rosy.
https://members.seeking.com/member/c26f0e71-0d72-4505-8ba5-d96ccf2b62f1
Real but need $$ for initial m&g.
CollegeGirl.
https://members.seeking.com/member/e2a5f3fe-4f1a-463b-bf7a-3e7a50d98039
Need 4 $ for each ppm. Previous reports did not confirm any action aside the same negotiation.
Brownsugarbabe.
https://members.seeking.com/member/4e6ccb52-b736-4a7d-a548-f91f8456fa36
Asked for 5 $ but okay with 3. 5 and mentioned okay with anything. Seems like a pro more than a sb.
Nadianas.
https://members.seeking.com/member/37d2b824-2f8f-4668-b932-1fd5845c8338
Conversation was good thought we really clicked, but wanted 8 $ as a start for each meet.
Tip: Started off with some good meetups scheduled but negotiated a 350 meetup with one of the sb which I don't have the link anymore. Right after this everything went down hill, not sure if she wrote up some stuff about the negotiation. All the lineups went silent and also response rate declined like crazy on SA.
Have one final meeting scheduled and hoping it to go well, in other case will take a break from sugar dating.
That's actually what I proposed, but then she countered that she would never let me accompany her as she is going with her mom and best friend. This is one of the red flags that I got from the whole exchange. It was very suspect from the beginning. Then today she said that she would be willing to take the pill, but that the cost would be $1600. I said that sounds high, and she said to do my research. I strongly believe now that she is trying to hustle me.I think this is a scam. I talked to her when she was in Nashville. I was going to meet with her, but decided to cancel. She blew my phone up after I cancelled trying to get me to pay her a cancellation fee. I had to block her. If she's at least 9 weeks pregnant, request a paternity test before doing anything. I think she's scamming you. I would make her go with you to urgent care and have them do a pregnancy test.
Never used the gifting option on SA but was curious as to if they get a notification that somethings been purchased for them? I have this one potential sb I am very interested in but they haven't been online in a few weeks, I was wondering if I sent them a gift would they get a notification? TIA.Cash only given after services, if they will only talk to you after you give them a "gift" it's probably best to move on anyway.
FarFarAway
04-03-23, 15:24
So I was just on the site, running a search one one of my photos and trying to see what shows up for me now that I have done some doctoring of my real images on the web. When you click on a particular image that PimEyes finds of you, this dialog comes up. It says that I can keep that photo private. There is a process you must go through, and you can do that with your IRL identity, no need to hide. You do have to give a reason, but I think that it likely to be rather loose.
Pregnancy scams, personal info getting out, threats, crazy world out there fellas!
Rule # 1 is these girls are not your friends, they are only about themselves and their $$. Don't simp and fall in love with them and let your guard down. Even if they make you feel like a GFE, 99% will turn on you given the chance. If they think they can make $$ off you without having to put in the work they will do it.
Rule # 2 As stated never ever ever use real phone #s, SnapChat accounts, or any social media. Use a fake name and hell don't even let them know what city you actually live in. I never list my home city in my profile, I pick somewhere else close enough to still get search result filters but not figure out where I am. The hardest part is not using your real photos since SA seems to have good filters that figure out you're using a fake pic off the internet, even if it looks close enough to you. Or just don't post pics period.
Rule # 3 if these girls try to scam you go dark if you can. If they found your personal info and are threatening you, go the MAD route and get their info too. It doesn't cost much to find out a lot of info online. A lot of these girls have social media presence because they are aspiring content sellers etc. Politely remind them that you also know who they are and will return the favor, and also remind them that extortion is illegal and you'll be contacting LEO if they chose to move forward.
I'm snipped and have paperwork to prove my boys don't swim anymore. Still had a former SB try that one on me too. Granted she didn't have my personal info but I politely reminded her I was snipped and had paperwork to prove it if she wanted to pursue the matter. She suddenly remembered another guy had raw dogged her and that it was "probably him". Never heard from her again.
Again stay safe!
Congrats on BBFSCIP that girl! She is smoking hot! I'm curious as to what the damages were on that, prior to the extortion attempts LOL. May be worth it to bag her once LOL!
Congrats on BBFSCIP that girl! She is smoking hot! I'm curious as to what the damages were on that, prior to the extortion attempts LOL. May be worth it to bag her once LOL!You can PM me for the answer, but she wasn't cheap. And way too expensive given all of the drama.
LouisHernandez
04-04-23, 12:28
Congrats on BBFSCIP that girl! She is smoking hot! I'm curious as to what the damages were on that, prior to the extortion attempts LOL. May be worth it to bag her once LOL!You come across a GPS like that, and sometimes you think. Maybe it's worth the $600 one time or whatever the stupid amount is, but if you're going to pay that much, you want the "full experience" as you did. But as noted, that's a bad idea in the long run. I imagine other than the fact she was hot that the sex was bad, b / c GPS are not there b / c they like you in any capacity, they are all about whatever resources they can extract from you in the shortest amount of time possible even if that is thru ruthless and devious means.
TravelinSD
04-04-23, 14:42
If it's the girl from SA that was listed in a previous post, I did spend an afternoon with her back in November. We had coffee and then back to my place for fun. She started out at $500, but quickly agreed to $300. She definitely was BBBJ and bbfscip. I'm snipped and told her so. Nice time, but not exciting enough to repeat.
One thing is, she was driving a Jaguar SUV. So, either she's doing ok, or has someone that's doing well.
Congrats on BBFSCIP that girl! She is smoking hot! I'm curious as to what the damages were on that, prior to the extortion attempts LOL. May be worth it to bag her once LOL!
I would like to genuine feedback to know if I'm just poor is the market is a bit crazy? I generally like to start off PPM and if things do get serious, I transition over to allowances, but a lot of these SB's having been saying they won't meet for a minimum 500 with tons of red tape / restrictions. If they can't host, they need a 5 star hotel, dinner at 200 $ pp first on top of PPM. If I was going to pay all that, I'd rather just go to a KRoomSalon. I'm used to negotiating down and increasing as meets get more intimate and such but the door to entry / damage minimum has been wild lately for me. Am I just damn poor or what?
SalvatoreIttup
04-04-23, 18:20
I would like to genuine feedback to know if I'm just poor is the market is a bit crazy? I generally like to start off PPM and if things do get serious, I transition over to allowances, but a lot of these SB's having been saying they won't meet for a minimum 500 with tons of red tape / restrictions. If they can't host, they need a 5 star hotel, dinner at 200 $ pp first on top of PPM. If I was going to pay all that, I'd rather just go to a KRoomSalon. I'm used to negotiating down and increasing as meets get more intimate and such but the door to entry / damage minimum has been wild lately for me. Am I just damn poor or what?You may be too poor to do this sort of thing in Miami or San Fransisco, but Atlanta is a relatively cheap market. Sometimes there are a string of GPS girls, but if you stay at, you'll run into a bunch of struggling women that will gladly do a free quick coffee date, and then take 200-300 for hours of fun afterwards!
LogJammin18
04-04-23, 19:30
If so, which one did you get and where, how did you register it and did it work?
SeekingHead
04-04-23, 23:01
I would like to genuine feedback to know if I'm just poor is the market is a bit crazy? I generally like to start off PPM and if things do get serious, I transition over to allowances, but a lot of these SB's having been saying they won't meet for a minimum 500 with tons of red tape / restrictions. If they can't host, they need a 5 star hotel, dinner at 200 $ pp first on top of PPM. If I was going to pay all that, I'd rather just go to a KRoomSalon. I'm used to negotiating down and increasing as meets get more intimate and such but the door to entry / damage minimum has been wild lately for me. Am I just damn poor or what?I have had one long term girl who I see weekly for $200 BBFS, & I tryout other girls on the side or go get a massage. $250-300 is normal for a solid 8 ceod, BBFS is the standard. Just stay at it.
So is everyone paying the crazy prices to become a premium member of SA?
Is there a way around it?
I feel like the prices are a little high considering you still have to pay these girls to meet them.
Some of these girls look great but I don't want to shell out money just to become a premium website member.
NewAnonymousName
04-04-23, 23:14
If so, which one did you get and where, how did you register it and did it work?Office Depot, Vanilla Visa, registered at mygiftcardmall, it worked on Seeking, as usual.
I have had one long term girl who I see weekly for $200 BBFS, & I tryout other girls on the side or go get a massage. $250-300 is normal for a solid 8 ceod, BBFS is the standard. Just stay at it.Thanks for the reply! Guess it's a going through the weeds moment.
Member #6704
04-05-23, 00:21
Has anyone received discount promo codes for seeking? Willing to post.
To quote the late great Biz Markie, it's spring again!
Not sure what's going on, but at least 4 past SBs have resurfaced in the last week. All of them hit me up with the hi stranger text and all are ready to get right back at it.
Now the newbies on these sites are definitely screaming gps but there are some gems still on the site. I have saved so much time just skipping over the Kim Kardashian, Paris Hilton buckhead Instagram model profiles as a rule of thumb. If a girl has eight pictures up and all eight are professional glamour shots or on front of high end cars or showing her with designer bags, I just skip completely or launch a hail Mary for the giggles.
These sugar sites are time consuming for sure and my opinion they are more for those that enjoy the chase. I have a buddy in Texas that recently started sugaring. Dude joined the site on a Thursday night and by that Saturday morning he was complaining that he wasn't in any poon tang yet. Ripper.
SeekingHead
04-05-23, 10:35
Thanks for the reply! Guess it's a going through the weeds moment.It is, but there isn't another way to bang 25 year old hot coed's bareback. In the last week, I sent out 25 messages & am conversing with 6 women on sugar daddy meets. About a 1 in 4 response rates, 4 have moved to text & I will probably close 2 of these within a week. I have a lunch date this Friday with one, & another coffee date next week with another. If the lunch date Friday goes good I will be having her over for a dinner date on either Saturday or Sunday this weekend.
One trick which works for me with girls who want a higher ppm, is to give them a slightly higher ppm on the first date. Say the girl wants $500 ppm, I will offer her $250, she comes back at $350. I'll agree to the $350 for the first meet but tell her after the first meet it's $250 going forward. I've had success with this on 10 women.
LogJammin18
04-05-23, 12:50
Office Depot, Vanilla Visa, registered at mygiftcardmall, it worked on Seeking, as usual.Which Vanilla Visa brand? Vanilla seems to have multiple types, Vanilla Gift does not work on Seeking / has no way to register it on VanillaGift.com.
LouisHernandez
04-05-23, 15:36
I have had one long term girl who I see weekly for $200 BBFS, & I tryout other girls on the side or go get a massage. $250-300 is normal for a solid 8 ceod, BBFS is the standard. Just stay at it.I agree with the price range. I would never go over $300. I also have a regular at $200 BBFSCIP no hassle I see every couple of weeks. I also shop around on the side but haven't found anything better. I wouldn't say BBFS is the standard, but it's certainly a requirement for anything long term.
Work on your main profile pic. I upload my photos to photofeeler.com and get them rated. Men are horrible at pics; you can set yourself apart learning some basic photography skills and proper posing. Good luck.
NewAnonymousName
04-05-23, 18:58
Which Vanilla Visa brand? Vanilla seems to have multiple types, Vanilla Gift does not work on Seeking / has no way to register it on VanillaGift.com.Sorry. I typed vanilla off the top of my head without confirming the packaging. The ones I use are Metabank cards, $20-$200, which I load for $200.
On the front, the packaging doesn't have any special branding. They just say VISA in big letters and GIFT CARD below that in smaller letters. The small print on the back says the card is issued by Metabank.
Peter Johnson
04-05-23, 19:51
If so, which one did you get and where, how did you register it and did it work?Ok here is my updated guide for all of this:
I appreciate those who helped me in the past with getting back on Seeking, after getting banned, so I thought I would write a short guide for others. (And even if you aren't banned, there are some tips about what prepaid cards seem to work to renew subscriptions).
1. Make a brand new Seeking account, with all new information. I usually just do this at home, behind a VPN, and with a new Proton email address. But you could use public wifi if you preferred. Sometimes it will insta-ban that newly created account, and other times it will let you proceed. But I would assume that gmail, or similar, is probably even more likely to work. (Don't use your regular naked home IP address, as that's just careless and ill advised).
2. Once you have the new Seeking account created, and can logout and log back in, then go ahead and write at least a short profile. I don't know if this makes a difference, but just seems better to have some profile info in there when you go to try to make a payment to start the subscription. You can go ahead and upload a photo too, although I usually wait on that. But get the account working for a day or two, and make sure can login on home computer and / or phone. You can still do searches, and set some girls as "Favorites", that you can message later when you get the subscription activated.
3. Buy a prepaid VISA card and use their website to register it with all fake information. I use the cards in the attached photo and you check their balance and register them at: https://mygift.giftcardmall.com/. I have heard that OneVanilla prepaid cards will work as well, and also Greendot cards, but someone said you have to call to register them and use 000-00-0000 as SSN#. However, I haven't tried any of those, and have only used the giftcardmall prepaid VISA cards that I buy at ATL area Publix grocery stores.
4. Go to a McDonalds, or other public WIFI, and login to Seeking that way, and not behind any VPN. Choose the subscription you want, and use information that matches the prepaid card registration. Be sire to enter the information EXACTLY as you did on the prepaid card site. Just copy and paste, to be safe.
5. Hopefully it will work and then maybe use the site for a few minutes, then log out and clear cookies and then should be able to login behind VPN, at home, etc.
I figured out another way that works is to use crypto, and buy prepaid MC on Bitrefill.com.
https://www.bitrefill.com/buy/prepaid-mastercard-usa/?hl=en
(Of course the crypto you pay with, may, or may not be linked to your identity, so that is an additional aspect to consider.).
When you buy the card on Bitrefill, it will give you a code that you enter at https://myprepaidcenter.com and then can make an acct and register the card. You can also buy the card for the exact amount of the membership, so you don't have to worry about using up the rest of it somehow.
So is everyone paying the crazy prices to become a premium member of SA?
Is there a way around it?
I feel like the prices are a little high considering you still have to pay these girls to meet them.
Some of these girls look great but I don't want to shell out money just to become a premium website member.I see it as a multi-faceted thing. The higher the premium for SA, the less dudes joining or maybe for a shorter duration. Less competition for pussy drives down the price of pussy as the girls have less dudes contacting them and less opportunity. Economics is one big balancing act. But it's supply and demand, if you're not getting enough value for the cost of a months subscription, simply don't join and seek pussy another less expensive way (what I do).
Everything else works itself out in time. I was sugaring before there were websites to do it and I can tell you it has always been a lot of work, it's just a matter of time versus money versus quantity of pussy.
Member #6704
04-05-23, 21:47
I see it as a multi-faceted thing. The higher the premium for SA, the less dudes joining or maybe for a shorter duration. Less competition for pussy drives down the price of pussy as the girls have less dudes contacting them and less opportunity. Economics is one big balancing act. But it's supply and demand, if you're not getting enough value for the cost of a months subscription, simply don't join and seek pussy another less expensive way (what I do).
Everything else works itself out in time. I was sugaring before there were websites to do it and I can tell you it has always been a lot of work, it's just a matter of time versus money versus quantity of pussy.Has any one seen a 20% or 25% discount recently?
GoneForGood97
04-05-23, 21:57
Has any one seen a 20% or 25% discount recently?Not since the St Patricks day sale last month. I doubt there will be one for Easter / Good Friday (though who knows, maybe they'll do it to be a little cheeky), but almost certainly will be one late next month for Memorial Day.
Member #6704
04-05-23, 22:30
Not since the St Patricks day sale last month. I doubt there will be one for Easter / Good Friday (though who knows, maybe they'll do it to be a little cheeky), but almost certainly will be one late next month for Memorial Day.Thanks for the response. While I was ending up renewal it threw an 20% off option and I should have captured the code but I forgot.
SeekingHead
04-05-23, 22:36
Has any one seen a 20% or 25% discount recently?St. Patricks was the last one.
Posts like this remind me that I constantly get more value from this site than the price I pay for membership. . . .
Many thanks, Mr. Johnson.
Ok here is my updated guide for all of this:
I appreciate those who helped me in the past with getting back on Seeking, after getting banned, so I thought I would write a short guide for others. (And even if you aren't banned, there are some tips about what prepaid cards seem to work to renew subscriptions).
1. Make a brand new Seeking account, with all new information. I usually just do this at home, behind a VPN, and with a new Proton email address. But you could use public wifi if you preferred. Sometimes it will insta-ban that newly created account, and other times it will let you proceed. But I would assume that gmail, or similar, is probably even more likely to work. (Don't use your regular naked home IP address, as that's just careless and ill advised).
2. Once you have the new Seeking account created, and can logout and log back in, then go ahead and write at least a short profile. I don't know if this makes a difference, but just seems better to have some profile info in there when you go to try to make a payment to start the subscription. You can go ahead and upload a photo too, although I usually wait on that. But get the account working for a day or two, and make sure can login on home computer and / or phone. You can still do searches, and set some girls as "Favorites", that you can message later when you get the subscription activated.
3. Buy a prepaid VISA card and use their website to register it with all fake information. I use the cards in the attached photo and you check their balance and register them at: https://mygift.giftcardmall.com/. I have heard that OneVanilla prepaid cards will work as well, and also Greendot cards, but someone said you have to call to register them and use 000-00-0000 as SSN#. However, I haven't tried any of those, and have only used the giftcardmall prepaid VISA cards that I buy at ATL area Publix grocery stores.
4. Go to a McDonalds, or other public WIFI, and login to Seeking that way, and not behind any VPN. Choose the subscription you want, and use information that matches the prepaid card registration. Be sire to enter the information EXACTLY as you did on the prepaid card site. Just copy and paste, to be safe.
5. Hopefully it will work and then maybe use the site for a few minutes, then log out and clear cookies and then should be able to login behind VPN, at home, etc.
I figured out another way that works is to use crypto, and buy prepaid MC on Bitrefill.com.
https://www.bitrefill.com/buy/prepaid-mastercard-usa/?hl=en
(Of course the crypto you pay with, may, or may not be linked to your identity, so that is an additional aspect to consider.).
When you buy the card on Bitrefill, it will give you a code that you enter at https://myprepaidcenter.com and then can make an acct and register the card. You can also buy the card for the exact amount of the membership, so you don't have to worry about using up the rest of it somehow.
I see it as a multi-faceted thing. The higher the premium for SA, the less dudes joining or maybe for a shorter duration. Less competition for pussy drives down the price of pussy as the girls have less dudes contacting them and less opportunity. Economics is one big balancing act. But it's supply and demand, if you're not getting enough value for the cost of a months subscription, simply don't join and seek pussy another less expensive way (what I do).
Everything else works itself out in time. I was sugaring before there were websites to do it and I can tell you it has always been a lot of work, it's just a matter of time versus money versus quantity of pussy.Well said, esp the last part. It's all about ROI in my mind. Sure you have to spend some time actually chatting with these girls, or take them out to coffee/dinner. In the end you get a much better experience with higher quality pussy.
SoonerFan72
04-06-23, 09:30
Has any one seen a 20% or 25% discount recently?I get a banner pop up literally every time I log in for anywhere between 15%-25%. Try logging in through a browser, instead of the app, see if that makes a difference.
Well said, esp the last part. It's all about ROI in my mind. Sure you have to spend some time actually chatting with these girls, or take them out to coffee/dinner. In the end you get a much better experience with higher quality pussy.It's amazing the returns you can get for the relatively simple contribution of providing a bit of "dating experience" to time with these girls. Just being a good listener (even when, in reality you'd rather be anywhere else but hearing her talk), and mastering the fine art of addressing her need for attention from an older guy while simultaneously never relinquishing the dominant stance in the relationship.
I don't like to keep seeing any one girl beyond the time frame of a few months, simply because these are not "real" relationships to me. Sooner or later, there is (by necessity) a "wind-down talk" that occurs. I used to use changes in my financial status as an excuse to duck out, but I had to start coming up with more creative reasons to stop seeing them, because more times than not they just offer to go sugar-free and I have to change my story. When that started happening consistently, I knew I had found the right formula.
The part that's still a lot of work and time is the initial search and meets. I'm picky about appearances, and the kind of girls I like to fuck have a lot of options these days. I can definitely feel winds of change coming though, and hoping that what will probably be a catastrophe for the economy overall will also result in a windfall of cheap pussy.
Member #6704
04-06-23, 18:25
I get a banner pop up literally every time I log in for anywhere between 15%-25%. Try logging in through a browser, instead of the app, see if that makes a difference.Next time you get that can you please click on it and it will take you to payment page. And when you scroll down there is a promo code pre populated, if you can.
Share that is appreciated.
Peter Johnson
04-07-23, 10:18
Sorry. I typed vanilla off the top of my head without confirming the packaging. The ones I use are Metabank cards, $20-$200, which I load for $200.
On the front, the packaging doesn't have any special branding. They just say VISA in big letters and GIFT CARD below that in smaller letters. The small print on the back says the card is issued by Metabank.Where do you buy these and what website do you use to check the balance online? Thanks.
Has any one seen a 20% or 25% discount recently?I think my account must be flagged by them as a "he will always subscribe if it's discounted," because it offers me a discount every single time I log in if my account is either expired or about to expire.
NewAnonymousName
04-07-23, 14:20
Where do you buy these and what website do you use to check the balance online? Thanks.I get them at Office Depot.
giftcardmall.com/mygift is the site to register them so they can be used online and to check the balance.
LouisHernandez
04-07-23, 15:22
The part that's still a lot of work and time is the initial search and meets. I'm picky about appearances, and the kind of girls I like to fuck have a lot of options these days. I can definitely feel winds of change coming though, and hoping that what will probably be a catastrophe for the economy overall will also result in a windfall of cheap pussy.The quicker the economic reset occurs the better b / c the pussy is way too picky / too low quality and hard to find right now. I'm glad I have a regular SB with no rules but I really want an upgrade or at least the equivalent but new b / c as you say, none of this shit is real anyway.
DudeNextDoor
04-08-23, 18:12
Does anyone have experience with these two?
https://members.seeking.com/member/02d13fcf-101e-402c-9cec-00e7c665bea8
Sounds like they've been on the site for a while and are pretty experienced. They say they're in Macon but come to Atlanta all the time. Just started talking to them and will report what else I find out but let me know if you've talked with or met them.
BrownSugaTwo
04-09-23, 00:51
Has anyone met / talked to Peachcoloredlenses?
https://members.seeking.com/member/87c5cbbb-39f4-4c0a-9b7e-8cf241d21d3b
Seems real, but I've got a feeling of suspicion.
FarFarAway
04-09-23, 02:46
https://www.redandblack.com/uganews/student-shares-experiences-as-a-sugar-baby-not-all-gifts-glamour/article_d862db14-28c1-11e4-97a8-001a4bcf6878.html
LouisHernandez
04-09-23, 12:49
https://www.redandblack.com/uganews/student-shares-experiences-as-a-sugar-baby-not-all-gifts-glamour/article_d862db14-28c1-11e4-97a8-001a4bcf6878.htmlGood article and pretty accurate. It's from 2019, during the seeking heyday. That was when the male to female ratio was at its best and before covid. I think many young girls were sold a bunch of bullshit that initially signed up for seeking and were genuinely curious so were very willing to meet guys. Now they are mostly full of total sh*t. I find the conversion rate from texting to sex to be around 5% at best now. And the quality is way down too. I also think since vanilla online dating doesn't work for the vast majority of men, they finally gave up and moved over to the sugar world, messing up the ratio even more.
I'm still in the sugar market trying different sites but I take nice long breaks b / c for one. I go thru most of the available girls on these sites in a few months and need give the sites time to get a fresh new crop, and two. The amount of energy required to find a girl is too much to stay active every day for weeks on end.
https://www.redandblack.com/uganews/student-shares-experiences-as-a-sugar-baby-not-all-gifts-glamour/article_d862db14-28c1-11e4-97a8-001a4bcf6878.htmlGreat article and thanks for posting! It's good to get some insight from a sugar babe, as I've always said, sugar dating is just another form of pay for play. We are basically walking ATM's for most of these p4p women.
Member #6704
04-10-23, 01:02
Does anyone have experience with these two?
https://members.seeking.com/member/02d13fcf-101e-402c-9cec-00e7c665bea8
Sounds like they've been on the site for a while and are pretty experienced. They say they're in Macon but come to Atlanta all the time. Just started talking to them and will report what else I find out but let me know if you've talked with or met them.I talked to them before and met for coffee. Led to nothing. To me they are just looking for free money.
I talked to them before and met for coffee. Led to nothing. To me they are just looking for free money.I talked to them a very long time ago when they listed Macon as their location. They were total scammers. They want money for doing absolutely nothing in return.
Does anyone have experience with these two?
https://members.seeking.com/member/02d13fcf-101e-402c-9cec-00e7c665bea8
Sounds like they've been on the site for a while and are pretty experienced. They say they're in Macon but come to Atlanta all the time. Just started talking to them and will report what else I find out but let me know if you've talked with or met them.They tried to get me to pay a few hundo just for a meet and greet, I wished them well and moved on.
DudeNextDoor
04-10-23, 09:54
Thanks, all. I'm having the same experience. They're just asking for money. They did say they'd send pics / vids but I reminded them about the internet and it's vast array of free pics and vids of hot women. Moving on.
They tried to get me to pay a few hundo just for a meet and greet, I wished them well and moved on.
LogJammin18
04-10-23, 11:05
https://www.redandblack.com/uganews/student-shares-experiences-as-a-sugar-baby-not-all-gifts-glamour/article_d862db14-28c1-11e4-97a8-001a4bcf6878.htmlI am surprised I didn't know the R&B had that article in 2019. No wonder I was killing it with UGA girls right after that. I literally had 10 newbie college girls on rotation from 2019-2021 at all times, sometimes having to bed down 2 a day just to keep them all in the fold and the fun going. Record was 4 new girls in a 24 hour period bedded down (some after an initial meet and greet coffee then scheduled hotel date and some straight to hotel for drinks in the room). I would estimate I slept with 100 different college girls over those 3 years, with some becoming regular for the rotation.
What happens when an article like this is targeted to an audience and well read, those initial girls try it out and then word of mouth to friends happens and they try it as well and you have exponential growth. Sounds like we need to get a follow up article published to generate interest again in my favorite demographic, which is newbie 18-22 year old cutie college girls who want to give this a try for some extra spending money. I may actually work on getting that planted. Maybe a letter to the editor requesting a follow-up. LOL.
LouisHernandez
04-10-23, 11:59
They tried to get me to pay a few hundo just for a meet and greet, I wished them well and moved on.Have any of yall had any success with these "2 for 1" girls / profiles? It sounds enticing but I would naturally be skeptical. Usually you don't start out with a threesome, you work towards it. IMHO.
Does anyone have experience with these two?
https://members.seeking.com/member/02d13fcf-101e-402c-9cec-00e7c665bea8
Sounds like they've been on the site for a while and are pretty experienced. They say they're in Macon but come to Atlanta all the time. Just started talking to them and will report what else I find out but let me know if you've talked with or met them.I met these 2 a couple of years ago. They had an apartment somewhere near downtown Macon, and based on their Snap (I used a fake account) they'd send me realtime pics, facetime calls, etc to verify who they were. However, they wanted something north of $3 just to meet for drinks, nothing else, and I had to pay for drinks too. So, long story short I stopped contact with them after that.
Airmantroy
04-10-23, 13:54
Have any of yall had any success with these "2 for 1" girls / profiles? It sounds enticing but I would naturally be skeptical. Usually you don't start out with a threesome, you work towards it. IMHO.I met a couple of girls way back 3-4 years ago that offered doubles. Figured the price was cheap enough I'd at least try it. They were the real deal and we repeated several times until they had a falling out, after that I saw the hotter of them a couple of times but she disappeared eventually. I took them to a M&G from Ter back when they were a thing.
https://members.seeking.com/member/d9b6ebe3-df71-4406-ba20-c74350e9959e
Chatting with this one and from one of her photos, the one in the white shirt, I think she has been reviewed before.
If it's the girl from SA that was listed in a previous post, I did spend an afternoon with her back in November. We had coffee and then back to my place for fun. She started out at $500, but quickly agreed to $300. She definitely was BBBJ and bbfscip. I'm snipped and told her so. Nice time, but not exciting enough to repeat.
One thing is, she was driving a Jaguar SUV. So, either she's doing ok, or has someone that's doing well.And $3 isn't bad for a one time thing with that IMO. Yeah sounds like she's already got somebody taking care of her. I had one girl about 2 years ago that I was seeing regularly that drove a newer Porsche SUV. She was in her mid 20's. Turns out she had an attorney bf / sd type situation and I was the side guy she'd see when he pissed her off LOL. Fun times.
Just a rant, but I wish guys would quit simping on these girls on SA and SDM. SDM has a feature that you can see where other people have either commented on a profile or pic and it shows it publicly. Kind of an odd feature, but anyhow, I swear all these guys are the reason these girls get GPS and want so much $$. I was viewing this one girls profile, kind of cute, maybe a low 7 but petite / athletic body. Not supermodel looking or instagram filter type looks. Anyways, mr. Simp publicly commented on her profile he'd pay her $5 k for a weekend. I'm not even going to message somebody like that because she's already seeing messages like that. No thanks.
SeekingHead
04-11-23, 09:58
Just a rant, but I wish guys would quit simping on these girls on SA and SDM. SDM has a feature that you can see where other people have either commented on a profile or pic and it shows it publicly. Kind of an odd feature, but anyhow, I swear all these guys are the reason these girls get GPS and want so much $$. I was viewing this one girls profile, kind of cute, maybe a low 7 but petite / athletic body. Not supermodel looking or instagram filter type looks. Anyways, mr. Simp publicly commented on her profile he'd pay her $5 k for a weekend. I'm not even going to message somebody like that because she's already seeing messages like that. No thanks.So those are public comments & are made by guys who don't even have a premium account, they are lurkers. They are hoping the girl responds to them so they can message with the girl.
TylerDurden07
04-11-23, 12:24
Completely out of the blue, I just received a text from a "424" area code & whoever it was knew my real name--as in, legal name, because everybody who knows me calls me by my nickname. This gal, whoever it was, threatened to "expose" me for soliciting prostitution. She then said she was "inboxing & faxing" (who uses a fax machine anymore? Screenshots of my SA messages of me trying to pay for sex. She also reminded me her "connections run deep. " Oh boy. I'm a zero-drama guy so I just replied "LOL, bye" & blocked her.
Anyone dealt with this type of stuff before?
One, I never give out my real name to any of these girls until I've vetted them in person. Two, I never discuss sex or sexual details on SA for fear of being banned so I have no idea where these "screenshots" she references are. Finally, she didn't identify herself after I asked her to. Nonetheless, I have a pretty good idea who it is, & she's pretty well known to this Board.
I've been generally pretty lucky avoiding the really dangerous batshit crazy ones until now. Normally, I'd roll my eyes & write this one off without concern except she knew my real legal name. Worried? No. Concerned? Yes.
LouisHernandez
04-11-23, 12:25
Just a rant, but I wish guys would quit simping on these girls on SA and SDM. SDM has a feature that you can see where other people have either commented on a profile or pic and it shows it publicly. Kind of an odd feature, but anyhow, I swear all these guys are the reason these girls get GPS and want so much $$. I was viewing this one girls profile, kind of cute, maybe a low 7 but petite / athletic body. Not supermodel looking or instagram filter type looks. Anyways, mr. Simp publicly commented on her profile he'd pay her $5 k for a weekend. I'm not even going to message somebody like that because she's already seeing messages like that. No thanks.Yep. The simps on all these social media platforms have caused women to have an overinflated sense of self worth. There's nothing you can do about it but not be a simp yourself. It's tricky b / c you want the conversation to be sexual instead of platonic. I find one compliment about the girls nice ass or whatever to do the trick, and then never bring it up again unless she initiates something sexual back.
LouisHernandez
04-11-23, 12:31
Completely out of the blue, I just received a text from a "424" area code & whoever it was knew my real name--as in, legal name, because everybody who knows me calls me by my nickname. This gal, whoever it was, threatened to "expose" me for soliciting prostitution. She then said she was "inboxing & faxing" (who uses a fax machine anymore? Screenshots of my SA messages of me trying to pay for sex. She also reminded me her "connections run deep. " Oh boy. I'm a zero-drama guy so I just replied "LOL, bye" & blocked her.
Anyone dealt with this type of stuff before?
One, I never give out my real name to any of these girls until I've vetted them in person. Two, I never discuss sex or sexual details on SA for fear of being banned so I have no idea where these "screenshots" she references are. Finally, she didn't identify herself after I asked her to. Nonetheless, I have a pretty good idea who it is, & she's pretty well known to this Board.
I've been generally pretty lucky avoiding the really dangerous batshit crazy ones until now. Normally, I'd roll my eyes & write this one off without concern except she knew my real legal name. Worried? No. Concerned? Yes.That's about as threatening as some loser with road rage who flips you off and honks at you. You did the right thing, flipped her back off in return and blocked her. The world is full of crazy people. Her threats aren't even threats. I'm sure some cop is going to waste time with this BS when people are getting knifed and shot on a regular basis in big cities right right now thanks to leftwing lunatic policies.
Completely out of the blue, I just received a text from a "424" area code & whoever it was knew my real name--as in, legal name, because everybody who knows me calls me by my nickname. This gal, whoever it was, threatened to "expose" me for soliciting prostitution. She then said she was "inboxing & faxing" (who uses a fax machine anymore? Screenshots of my SA messages of me trying to pay for sex. She also reminded me her "connections run deep. " Oh boy. I'm a zero-drama guy so I just replied "LOL, bye" & blocked her.
Anyone dealt with this type of stuff before?
One, I never give out my real name to any of these girls until I've vetted them in person. Two, I never discuss sex or sexual details on SA for fear of being banned so I have no idea where these "screenshots" she references are. Finally, she didn't identify herself after I asked her to. Nonetheless, I have a pretty good idea who it is, & she's pretty well known to this Board.
I've been generally pretty lucky avoiding the really dangerous batshit crazy ones until now. Normally, I'd roll my eyes & write this one off without concern except she knew my real legal name. Worried? No. Concerned? Yes.She could have paid for one of those reverse lookup sites if so. If using a burner or text app that's concerning. I wouldn't worry about it though.
In the last week or so I've gotten two different texts threatening me because I "wasted their girl's time" and if I didn't pay up they'd find me. I use an app not registered to a real name or email though so I just play along with them or ignore them. Both instances they left me alone afterward.
Frosty Man
04-11-23, 14:07
She could have paid for one of those reverse lookup sites if so. If using a burner or text app that's concerning. I wouldn't worry about it though.
In the last week or so I've gotten two different texts threatening me because I "wasted their girl's time" and if I didn't pay up they'd find me. I use an app not registered to a real name or email though so I just play along with them or ignore them. Both instances they left me alone afterward.You can remind women like this that extortion is a federal crime and a felony, to boot. She's incriminated herself with that text and there isn't anything more the FBI has to do before they arrest her.
2me4Looking2
04-11-23, 16:27
Completely out of the blue, I just received a text from a "424" area code & whoever it was knew my real name--as in, legal name, because everybody who knows me calls me by my nickname. This gal, whoever it was, threatened to "expose" me for soliciting prostitution. She then said she was "inboxing & faxing" (who uses a fax machine anymore? Screenshots of my SA messages of me trying to pay for sex. She also reminded me her "connections run deep. " Oh boy. I'm a zero-drama guy so I just replied "LOL, bye" & blocked her.
Anyone dealt with this type of stuff before?
One, I never give out my real name to any of these girls until I've vetted them in person. Two, I never discuss sex or sexual details on SA for fear of being banned so I have no idea where these "screenshots" she references are. Finally, she didn't identify herself after I asked her to. Nonetheless, I have a pretty good idea who it is, & she's pretty well known to this Board.
I've been generally pretty lucky avoiding the really dangerous batshit crazy ones until now. Normally, I'd roll my eyes & write this one off without concern except she knew my real legal name. Worried? No. Concerned? Yes.Who do you think it is just so the rest of us can be sure to avoid her? Even if she has been mentioned it's helpful to keep calling them out so we are less likely to make the same mistake.
TylerDurden07
04-11-23, 16:50
Who do you think it is just so the rest of us can be sure to avoid her? Even if she has been mentioned it's helpful to keep calling them out so we are less likely to make the same mistake.Why'all know she's a known commodity. I've saved her threatening texts from our nasty exchange 4-5 months ago "just in case. " Why in the hell she just woke up today & decided today was the day, after the passage of several months, to threaten me out of the blue is anyone's guess. But. There's simple "crazy" & then there's demented psycho crazy. She's the latter.
TallGuy3000
04-11-23, 18:37
Completely out of the blue, I just received a text from a "424" area code & whoever it was knew my real name--as in, legal name, because everybody who knows me calls me by my nickname. This gal, whoever it was, threatened to "expose" me for soliciting prostitution. She then said she was "inboxing & faxing" (who uses a fax machine anymore? Screenshots of my SA messages of me trying to pay for sex. She also reminded me her "connections run deep. " Oh boy. I'm a zero-drama guy so I just replied "LOL, bye" & blocked her.
Anyone dealt with this type of stuff before?
One, I never give out my real name to any of these girls until I've vetted them in person. Two, I never discuss sex or sexual details on SA for fear of being banned so I have no idea where these "screenshots" she references are. Finally, she didn't identify herself after I asked her to. Nonetheless, I have a pretty good idea who it is, & she's pretty well known to this Board.
I've been generally pretty lucky avoiding the really dangerous batshit crazy ones until now. Normally, I'd roll my eyes & write this one off without concern except she knew my real legal name. Worried? No. Concerned? Yes.I got what sounds like the exact same message on my GV app no. I think it was also from area code 424, but don't remember as I quickly blocked the number and deleted the message. Don't remember "her" using any name at all. Like you, I'm concerned (and deleted off some old message strings with girls I'm not actively communicating with), but not terribly worried.
. . There's simple "crazy" & then there's demented psycho crazy. She's the latter.If I had a dime for every gal I thought was simple "crazy" but turned out to eventually make me think she'd end up making me rabbit stew for dinner. . .
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JS6Gw6NVgRg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ecWhXP2jM28
. I'd have a lot of dimes. . .
LouisHernandez
04-11-23, 21:26
If I had a dime for every gal I thought was simple "crazy" but turned out to eventually make me think she'd end up making me rabbit stew for dinner. . .
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JS6Gw6NVgRg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ecWhXP2jM28
. I'd have a lot of dimes. . .You need to google "hot crazy matrix". You entered the "danger zone". "This is where your car gets keyed, you get a bunny in the pot, your tires get slashed, and you wind up in jail".
SoonerFan72
04-11-23, 22:32
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Share that is appreciated.Just got offered 20% off, here is the code:
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Member #6704
04-12-23, 08:25
Just got offered 20% off, here is the code:
OCR20AUG22Thank you.
BrownSugaTwo
04-12-23, 09:11
Does anyone know if natayladarling is real?
https://members.seeking.com/member/17c1bea3-77d7-4665-af07-82e43b28c24c
2me4Looking2
04-12-23, 09:27
Does anyone know if natayladarling is real?
https://members.seeking.com/member/17c1bea3-77d7-4665-af07-82e43b28c24cI texted with her, but it never went anywhere. She said she lives a couple of hours south of Atlanta so I didn't really pursue it. She did send some really hot pictures though.
Totalcsllc
04-12-23, 09:42
Does anyone know if natayladarling is real?
https://members.seeking.com/member/17c1bea3-77d7-4665-af07-82e43b28c24cNot for the faint of heart. She quoted me a ppm of $1500.
Does anyone know if natayladarling is real?
https://members.seeking.com/member/17c1bea3-77d7-4665-af07-82e43b28c24cAs other's stated. But she is very pricy for a ppm. Got more pro vibes out of her than SB she was straight business and to the point. She sent some hot pics to confirm she's real. Offered to come to me as well. She advertises in the Atl area when I first contacted her but she's definitely much further away, looks like she shows Savannah now, she offered to come an hour and a half to me. But as stated she's not cheap. As far as offerings she's good for BBBJ and BBFS (didn't say cip) if you can prove you're clean with recent results.
Last October I posted a question here to ask everyone's experience getting SB in Colombia / South America. Then I went and the SB experience was alright since the SB spoke English. But they were mostly 6 so I wasn't too thrilled. I discovered that the local escort scene is just too good to pass. Most working girls I seen are 7 to 8 provide GFE and DFK for $30-50. Much cheaper and more accessible than the limited option here in Atlanta.
I tried SA for 3 months and other establishments here already. Atlanta SB who are barely 6 wants 400+ now. And it is just too much effort to go thru the filtering, M&G, and then just bail. I felt like got a second job.
I will visit there again soon for around 2-3 weeks so if anyone is interested PM me.
GoneForGood97
04-12-23, 14:59
Completely out of the blue, I just received a text from a "424" area code & whoever it was knew my real name--as in, legal name, because everybody who knows me calls me by my nickname. This gal, whoever it was, threatened to "expose" me for soliciting prostitution. She then said she was "inboxing & faxing" (who uses a fax machine anymore? Screenshots of my SA messages of me trying to pay for sex. She also reminded me her "connections run deep. " Oh boy. I'm a zero-drama guy so I just replied "LOL, bye" & blocked her.
Anyone dealt with this type of stuff before?
One, I never give out my real name to any of these girls until I've vetted them in person. Two, I never discuss sex or sexual details on SA for fear of being banned so I have no idea where these "screenshots" she references are. Finally, she didn't identify herself after I asked her to. Nonetheless, I have a pretty good idea who it is, & she's pretty well known to this Board.
I've been generally pretty lucky avoiding the really dangerous batshit crazy ones until now. Normally, I'd roll my eyes & write this one off without concern except she knew my real legal name. Worried? No. Concerned? Yes.Only you know your risk tolerance for being "outed". If they have your legal name, it's pretty trivial to find your social media. How bad would it go if she started posting on your facebook or Insta that you pay for sex? If you're married that could be a disaster. If you're job cares or has a morality clause, that could be a problem. Or maybe none of that matters and the worst that can happen is you have an embarrassing post you have to delete then claim it was a scammer / hacker for plausible deniability.
I would be concerned in knowing how they were able to track down my legal name. Did I text them from my real ph# instead of my burner by accident? Did I have a piece of mail in my car addressed to my real name that she might have seen if I picked her up? Did I use my real info when I setup my email account? So on and so on.
GoneForGood97
04-12-23, 15:05
As other's stated. But she is very pricy for a ppm. Got more pro vibes out of her than SB she was straight business and to the point. She sent some hot pics to confirm she's real. Offered to come to me as well. She advertises in the Atl area when I first contacted her but she's definitely much further away, looks like she shows Savannah now, she offered to come an hour and a half to me. But as stated she's not cheap. As far as offerings she's good for BBBJ and BBFS (didn't say cip) if you can prove you're clean with recent results.Texted with her a few months ago and she passed my verification pic request, so I know she's real, but the GPS was real and I quickly moved on.
Texted with her a few months ago and she passed my verification pic request, so I know she's real, but the GPS was real and I quickly moved on.Yeah it's a shame too, because even though I don't usually go for the muscley girls, she looks like she'd be fun and I was definitely turned on by her pics and willingness to do pretty much anything.
TylerDurden07
04-12-23, 16:47
Only you know your risk tolerance for being "outed". If they have your legal name, it's pretty trivial to find your social media. How bad would it go if she started posting on your facebook or Insta that you pay for sex? If you're married that could be a disaster. If you're job cares or has a morality clause, that could be a problem. Or maybe none of that matters and the worst that can happen is you have an embarrassing post you have to delete then claim it was a scammer / hacker for plausible deniability.
I would be concerned in knowing how they were able to track down my legal name. Did I text them from my real ph# instead of my burner by accident? Did I have a piece of mail in my car addressed to my real name that she might have seen if I picked her up? Did I use my real info when I setup my email account? So on and so on.Fortunately, I don't have much to lose. Not married or in a relationship. My business partner is a dude who's in the hobby too (truth, I swear). But I'm more concerned about how she got my real legal name. I never actually met her, so she couldn't have "seen" anything incriminating in person. And I also wasn't stupid, so I'm searching to mind trying to figure out how.
Last October I posted a question here to ask everyone's experience getting SB in Colombia / South America. Then I went and the SB experience was alright since the SB spoke English. But they were mostly 6 so I wasn't too thrilled. I discovered that the local escort scene is just too good to pass. Most working girls I seen are 7 to 8 provide GFE and DFK for $30-50. Much cheaper and more accessible than the limited option here in Atlanta.
I tried SA for 3 months and other establishments here already. Atlanta SB who are barely 6 wants 400+ now. And it is just too much effort to go thru the filtering, M&G, and then just bail. I felt like got a second job.
I will visit there again soon for around 2-3 weeks so if anyone is interested PM me.You ignore the risk in Columbia: from cartels to police.
NewAnonymousName
04-12-23, 18:55
Fortunately, I don't have much to lose. Not married or in a relationship. My business partner is a dude who's in the hobby too (truth, I swear). But I'm more concerned about how she got my real legal name. I never actually met her, so she couldn't have "seen" anything incriminating in person. And I also wasn't stupid, so I'm searching to mind trying to figure out how.Did you share a picture with her? There are posts from a couple weeks ago about a website site called pimeyes that compares any picture against ones available on the web. Even though the picture being run through the website does not appear anywhere on the web, the program uses facial recognition to find publicly available pictures that are a match. Unfortunately, several posters tested it and it works really well. It's particularly troublesome if you have a professional picture on a business website. Search pimeyes and you'll see the discussion.
You need to google "hot crazy matrix". You entered the "danger zone". "This is where your car gets keyed, you get a bunny in the pot, your tires get slashed, and you wind up in jail".How true the "hot crazy matrix" ended up being is just astounding. True geniuses before their time.
Just a rant, but I wish guys would quit simping on these girls on SA and SDM. SDM has a feature that you can see where other people have either commented on a profile or pic and it shows it publicly. Kind of an odd feature, but anyhow, I swear all these guys are the reason these girls get GPS and want so much $$. I was viewing this one girls profile, kind of cute, maybe a low 7 but petite / athletic body. Not supermodel looking or instagram filter type looks. Anyways, mr. Simp publicly commented on her profile he'd pay her $5 k for a weekend. I'm not even going to message somebody like that because she's already seeing messages like that. No thanks.Simping is a mental disorder, and they are infecting our bowl messing it up for the rest of us. It pisses me off.
What do they even gain from it? A maxed out Amex and a dry dick? It makes no sense.
As the title says, what's the best or most successful sites for arrangements or hookups?
I've tried and actually did a 1 month gold membership to adultfinder and was definitely a waste of money.
I prefer thick or bbw when looking for arrangements if that narrows down what sites would be best for that.
SeekingHead
04-13-23, 07:23
As the title says, what's the best or most successful sites for arrangements or hookups?
I've tried and actually did a 1 month gold membership to adultfinder and was definitely a waste of money.
I prefer thick or bbw when looking for arrangements if that narrows down what sites would be best for that.Seeking or sugar daddy meets.
I've been using SDM's for about a year, in that year I've pulled over 10 girls. I go for mid 20's spinners or hot milfs, so it's a bit slower for me than it would be for you.
GoneForGood97
04-13-23, 07:37
As the title says, what's the best or most successful sites for arrangements or hookups?
I've tried and actually did a 1 month gold membership to adultfinder and was definitely a waste of money.
I prefer thick or bbw when looking for arrangements if that narrows down what sites would be best for that.I've had great success with seeking.com. It's $120 a month unless you can get a discount code, but someone posted a 20% off one a little lower in the thread, so hopefully it still works. I usually turn my subscription on for a month when they have a special, setup meetups with 3-4 potentials, fuck 1-3 of them, then turn my sub off, and just rotate between the 3 new SBs as needed. Usually I get enough girls to last me 3-4 months before I get bored and decide I need some fresh strange.
Typically if a girl can host I offer 300 per meet, or if I need to get us a hotel then I offer 200 per meet. I don't chase after the wannabe models, and I routinely fuck anywhere from early 20s to early 30s sexy af girls who are eager to please and feel like a gf when we're together, usually for a couple of hours, all bare, with multiple pops.
Funny enough I'm currently banging a late 20 something model for 300 and she hosts who is just the sweetest, most submissive and eager to please girl I've seen in months, and I alternate her with an early 20's MILF who is also 300 PPM, doesn't have quite the same body but gives some of the best BJs I've ever had. I pick up a Plan B on Amazon for $8 and get to finish inside either of them at will. I also have an early 30s MILF with the body of a co-ed that travels too much to be a regular thing, but I see her once or twice a month for only $100 plus dinner and hotel. She has a her tubes tied so no BC concerns there.
As the title says, what's the best or most successful sites for arrangements or hookups?
I've tried and actually did a 1 month gold membership to adultfinder and was definitely a waste of money.
I prefer thick or bbw when looking for arrangements if that narrows down what sites would be best for that.I'd say you'll have easy success picking up the thick / bbw types on seeking or SDM. I'm a bit pickier since I'm spending money I figure I better go for the hot young athletic types. But trust me, those bbw girls have their competition cut out for them on there with all the college girls and will probably be easy picking if that's your thing. I get bombarded with messages and requests from that crowd and generally ignore. Again I'm just super picky on there.
SoonerFan72
04-13-23, 12:28
Thank you.Here is another code, this one is for 25% off.
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Just back channel let me know. She seems flaky.
https://members.seeking.com/member/b1b344e2-a75e-4815-afe2-f4c9a2ac1c33
Member #6704
04-13-23, 14:55
Here is another code, this one is for 25% off.
VWO25 COM.Worked for me.
Mark Scott
04-13-23, 18:08
Here is my stealth message of the day for those that don't know. The best search tool I use is C-App. It's free and has about a 40-50% success rate as long as you have the digits. Just a reminder to not have "your" real info inside CA app. I'm aware you were not there yet. But this post did make me think about one of the ways I get so much intel on SBs before the fact. Mixed with some other free tools.
Fortunately, I don't have much to lose. Not married or in a relationship. My business partner is a dude who's in the hobby too (truth, I swear). But I'm more concerned about how she got my real legal name. I never actually met her, so she couldn't have "seen" anything incriminating in person. And I also wasn't stupid, so I'm searching to mind trying to figure out how.
BrownSugaTwo
04-13-23, 23:34
I texted with her, but it never went anywhere. She said she lives a couple of hours south of Atlanta so I didn't really pursue it. She did send some really hot pictures though.Based on her SDM profile, she lives in Albany. Pretty far south, at least from me:
https://www.sugardaddymeet.com/userProfile?userId=71815287¬ServerPage=1
And, thank you to everyone who commented about her.
FarFarAway
04-14-23, 00:19
Here is my stealth message of the day for those that don't know. The best search tool I use is C-App. It's free and has about a 40-50% success rate as long as you have the digits. Just a reminder to not have "your" real info inside CA app. I'm aware you were not there yet. But this post did make me think about one of the ways I get so much intel on SBs before the fact. Mixed with some other free tools.I never heard of it, it definitely hasn't been mentioned on this site. It is an iPhone app I surmise. Well I have an Android phone. Any way to get the same on a web page?
Here is my stealth message of the day for those that don't know. The best search tool I use is C-App. It's free and has about a 40-50% success rate as long as you have the digits. Just a reminder to not have "your" real info inside CA app. I'm aware you were not there yet. But this post did make me think about one of the ways I get so much intel on SBs before the fact. Mixed with some other free tools.Can you be more specific on this? I can't seem to find C-App or CA App.
Pharmacy470
04-14-23, 14:04
I can do a little research with their phone number with it.
Can you be more specific on this? I can't seem to find C-App or CA App.
SoonerFan72
04-14-23, 14:05
Scammers, wants you to send money in advance "cause she was scammed before". NOPE.
https://members.seeking.com/member/e9612bac-62c6-454a-80d0-480f61455db6
I'm a rookie at that app. It can actually be used for some reconnaissance if you have a number? I had no idea. I just figured it would leave a paper trail on my end, but it may be worth downloading just to check numbers out.
Peter Johnson
04-15-23, 02:23
https://members.seeking.com/member/4c8fa044-b675-4f99-ac87-fd1c448045a4
Novahhoquain
20 • Female • Atlanta, Georgia, United States
Spoil me
"'I'm a Virgo, I'm 20 and I love to have fun! I love to shop and spend money! I'm a manager at a family restaurant. After work you can find me at the gym and maybe a glass of wine after that. I will not meet up with you until I feel we have built a bond and trust. I'm very beautiful, no I am not a fake person or trying to scam you. I'm genuine and typically very social. I want to be a model and also I'd like to run my own business one day. I'm looking for someone who is not so focused on having sex. There's more to a person than their body, don't disrespect that. ".
Speaks for itself.
NewAnonymousName
04-15-23, 12:58
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Novahhoquain
20 Female Atlanta, Georgia, United States
Spoil me
"'I'm a Virgo, I'm 20 and I love to have fun! I love to shop and spend money! I'm a manager at a family restaurant. After work you can find me at the gym and maybe a glass of wine after that. I will not meet up with you until I feel we have built a bond and trust. I'm very beautiful, no I am not a fake person or trying to scam you. I'm genuine and typically very social. I want to be a model and also I'd like to run my own business one day. I'm looking for someone who is not so focused on having sex. There's more to a person than their body, don't disrespect that. ".
Speaks for itself.I agree. Even without the line about not wanting guys focused on sex, this profile would have been a no go for me. The line about not meeting until there is a bond or trust, to me, is a glaring red flag that she wants money to chat online. I always move on from profiles that say anything like that.
https://members.seeking.com/member/4c8fa044-b675-4f99-ac87-fd1c448045a4
Novahhoquain
20 Female Atlanta, Georgia, United States
Spoil me
"'I'm a Virgo, I'm 20 and I love to have fun! I love to shop and spend money! I'm a manager at a family restaurant. After work you can find me at the gym and maybe a glass of wine after that. I will not meet up with you until I feel we have built a bond and trust. I'm very beautiful, no I am not a fake person or trying to scam you. I'm genuine and typically very social. I want to be a model and also I'd like to run my own business one day. I'm looking for someone who is not so focused on having sex. There's more to a person than their body, don't disrespect that. ".
Speaks for itself.From the sound of it she wants a large deposit before meeting in person.
I agree. Even without the line about not wanting guys focused on sex, this profile would have been a no go for me. The line about not meeting until there is a bond or trust, to me, is a glaring red flag that she wants money to chat online. I always move on from profiles that say anything like that.I get what you're saying, but I would have lost out on a lot of cheap or free pussy if I ignored those types of profiles and didn't chat them up a little. These girls have their own forums and assuming a certain level of literacy, they understand the monger-perspective of what an SB should be and many of them are aware of this forum and want to filter out what they consider to be "creeps".
Trust me I get it, I want convenient sex too, but the tradeoff of convenience has always been less options, higher traffic pussy, or a higher price point (or some combination of all of the above).
What has always been the crux of the sugaring lifestyle is the wide range of variance between convenience and cost. A little investment in game, knowing how women think and knowing how to say the right things can get those $1 k girls down to the cost of dinner fairly regularly. But it is an investment, and time is money too, so as always YMMV and weigh options carefully.
Peter Johnson
04-15-23, 22:14
knowing how to say the right things can get those $1 k girls down to the cost of dinner fairly regularly..There is some truth in what you are saying, but I seriously doubt you are regularly getting the $1 k girls down to $50. Maybe 2% of the time, but not "regularly". Unless you are super good looking, where they would do you for free, and then doesn't matter much what you said to them.
Anyway, if you enjoy taking absurd long shots, then go for it, and I know from experience that some (more like 1 out of 100) do pay off, but it's usually a waste of time, just like playing the lottery.
Peter Johnson
04-15-23, 22:17
From the sound of it she wants a large deposit before meeting in person.I didn't even think of that, but of course that is likely the case. Or she wants multiple lucrative dinner dates, without possibly doing anything sexual (and would likely never happen). And maybe there is a large enough pool of simps (and "findom" masochists) to have this strategy pay her rent every month, but definitely not for me.
There is some truth in what you are saying, but I seriously doubt you are regularly getting the $1 k girls down to $50. Maybe 2% of the time, but not "regularly". Unless you are super good looking, where they would do you for free, and then doesn't matter much what you said to them.
Anyway, if you enjoy taking absurd long shots, then go for it, and I know from experience that some (more like 1 out of 100) do pay off, but it's usually a waste of time, just like playing the lottery.First, dinner with me is never $50. Including drinks at a nice place and the tip alone might be thirty bucks. If anyone is trying to take a hot girl out to eat where the total bill is $50 that's a big part of why they aren't finding success. Second, one should understand that there is not really such a thing as a $1 k girl at all. That is just the price she quotes to someone she didn't really want to fuck in the first place. The art is in being someone she does want to fuck. Being attractive (and tremendously important, physically fit) for ones age indeed goes along way but there is much more to being skilled in handling women than just looks.
There are certainly some who are just high priced escorts and their GPS is not really up for negotiation, but when I sense that type I move on quickly.
First, dinner with me is never $50. Including drinks at a nice place and the tip alone might be thirty bucks. If anyone is trying to take a hot girl out to eat where the total bill is $50 that's a big part of why they aren't finding success. Second, one should understand that there is not really such a thing as a $1 k girl at all. That is just the price she quotes to someone she didn't really want to fuck in the first place. The art is in being someone she does want to fuck. Being attractive (and tremendously important, physically fit) for ones age indeed goes along way but there is much more to being skilled in handling women than just looks.
There are certainly some who are just high priced escorts and their GPS is not really up for negotiation, but when I sense that type I move on quickly.How much on average are you shelling out to vet on a dinner? $150-200? How often? 2-4 time per month?
Unless majority are keepers worthy of being added to your stable, that can be quite a bit of money to serve as a loss leader.
FarFarAway
04-16-23, 11:23
First, dinner with me is never $50. Including drinks at a nice place and the tip alone might be thirty bucks. If anyone is trying to take a hot girl out to eat where the total bill is $50 that's a big part of why they aren't finding success. Second, one should understand that there is not really such a thing as a $1 k girl at all. That is just the price she quotes to someone she didn't really want to fuck in the first place. The art is in being someone she does want to fuck. Being attractive (and tremendously important, physically fit) for ones age indeed goes along way but there is much more to being skilled in handling women than just looks.
There are certainly some who are just high priced escorts and their GPS is not really up for negotiation, but when I sense that type I move on quickly.You took the words right out of my mouth. Absolutely. Negotiating w / someone over the internet is never never never the way to get a great girl for something reasonable.
I also fail to understand the persistence of the 'simp' meme. What do any of those posting about them know, for a fact, 'they' are doing? A significant factor I would wager on the persistence of this trope is envy of guys who do happen to have a lot of dough, I mean really a lot, and failure to get really top notch SBs (which I definitely have, and I have posted detailed information about on this site).
How much on average are you shelling out to vet on a dinner? $150-200? How often? 2-4 time per month?
Unless majority are keepers worthy of being added to your stable, that can be quite a bit of money to serve as a loss leader.This is one of the reasons I like to do coffee meet and greets. Easy, cheap and quicker way to determine if they are worth the time / funds to be added to the roster. It also has the added benefit of coming across as a guy looking for "more than just sex" in their head.
While we know all we want is to get their panties down.
LouisHernandez
04-16-23, 12:02
I'm a rookie at that app. It can actually be used for some reconnaissance if you have a number? I had no idea. I just figured it would leave a paper trail on my end, but it may be worth downloading just to check numbers out.You can also use whatsapp. Manually add the SB's phone number as a contact and her info will show up if she is registered.
LouisHernandez
04-16-23, 12:06
There is some truth in what you are saying, but I seriously doubt you are regularly getting the $1 k girls down to $50. Maybe 2% of the time, but not "regularly". Unless you are super good looking, where they would do you for free, and then doesn't matter much what you said to them.
Anyway, if you enjoy taking absurd long shots, then go for it, and I know from experience that some (more like 1 out of 100) do pay off, but it's usually a waste of time, just like playing the lottery.Yep same here. Time isn't free, I only have so much of my life I can or want to invest in the bowl honestly, so I pick and choose which SBs I chat up by playing the odds, and spend the rest of my free time doing something I actually enjoy.
NewAnonymousName
04-16-23, 13:41
You can also use whatsapp. Manually add the SB's phone number as a contact and her info will show up if she is registered.Be careful with WhatsApp to go to settings and have it not display the phone number you used to register for the app.
Peter Johnson
04-16-23, 14:18
I also fail to understand the persistence of the 'simp' meme. What do any of those posting about them know, for a fact, 'they' are doing? A significant factor I would wager on the persistence of this trope is envy of guys who do happen to have a lot of doughYou would lose that wager, because you do fail to understand the obvious about what a "simp" even is. It's not a rich guy who pays women to go to dinner....not even close. I'm not going to waste the time explaining it to you, because again, it is a fairly conventional and widely understood term, by everyone else. You live in a world in which simps do not exist, which is a fantasy world. I was speaking about reality, not fantasy.
Peter Johnson
04-16-23, 14:26
Second, one should understand that there is not really such a thing as a $1 k girl at all. That is just the price she quotes to someone she didn't really want to fuck in the first place.
There are certainly some who are just high priced escorts and their GPS is not really up for negotiationYou just directly contradicted yourself. And of course there are sugarbabies who won't take less than $1 k. Not a high % of them, but of course they do exist. And no, they aren't all "high priced escorts". I hate to be so argumentative , but just have to call out some of the absurd claims being made here.
Anyway, there are certainly girls out of my price range, and a few of them certainly do get $1 k....and a few of those even deserve it. And there are guys who drive $2 million cars and that's fine too. I don't have to be in denial about any of that to be able to sleep at night, and still find some fun on Seeking.
How much on average are you shelling out to vet on a dinner? $150-200? How often? 2-4 time per month?
Unless majority are keepers worthy of being added to your stable, that can be quite a bit of money to serve as a loss leader.Maybe $165 on average, but it's usually only for the M&G, and since more than half the food and drink cost is for my own consumption (and I like good food), it has almost never turned out to be a bad investment.
You just directly contradicted yourself. Where exactly are you hoping to find a contradiction? To address the part I believe you're talking about, I said:
"knowing how to say the right things can get those $1 k girls down to the cost of dinner fairly regularly. "
Then later said:
"There are certainly some who are just high priced escorts and their GPS is not really up for negotiation, but when I sense that type I move on quickly. "
So unless someone is hoping to read something into it that meets their own agenda, it simply means that I fairly regularly get $1 k want to-be girls for cheap, but I am acknowledging that there are some girls out there who aren't worth trying to change.
There's nothing contradictory about that.
If you meant the part where I said "there is not really such a thing as a $1 k girl (referring to SBs, not escorts) at all"... I stand by it. They are not $1k girls, they all just think they are. It might be somewhat correct to say that they do become $1k girls temporarily, for the fleeting moment hour two that some idiot is in such sad shape that he's desperate enough to pay that. But that does not mean their true market value is $1k. No girl is worth $1k for a single fuck.
FarFarAway
04-16-23, 15:21
You would lose that wager, because you do fail to understand the obvious about what a "simp" even is. It's not a rich guy who pays women to go to dinner....not even close. I'm not going to waste the time explaining it to you, because again, it is a fairly conventional and widely understood term, by everyone else. You live in a world in which simps do not exist, which is a fantasy world. I was speaking about reality, not fantasy.Seriously, if there is a definition you use, beyond guys who pay girls an insane amount of money to do nothing, go for it. And as I said, the only place IK of where such a guy exists is in the mind of a crazed POT. I met a girl in Vegas a while back, she claimed she spent time w / an asian guy at something like a kilobuck or two per time, and all he really wanted was for her to hang around while he did drugs. I have no idea what she thought saying this would do in our negotiations, but for sure I didn't take it into account.
No girl is worth $1k for a single fuck.I would hope all of us can agree on this. Because it's true!
MariettaJoe
04-16-23, 17:14
BeautifulCharmer, reviewed here before using the profile https://members.seeking.com/member/d5b76626-e88a-4fec-88ab-aa6eb1d4305c is now back as FunCutie at https://members.seeking.com/member/6d5edb43-2ec4-44eb-8029-ce29049faf7d..
Still can't host, wanted $$. 5 to $$$ and you have to pick her up.
FarFarAway
04-16-23, 17:57
I would hope all of us can agree on this. Because it's true!In my impression, those who are asking for that, they are really looking for a situation where they are a kept woman. Set up in an apartment, etc. It is such a minority of the guys on SA who could do this, they will wait a long time. You first have to have the bucks to afford it, and then either be single and want to stay that way, or have a SO who doesn't care what you do, or who is so clueless you can hide those sorts of expenses from.
I could certainly afford blowing (good term!) that much on a date. It is hard to hide that large an expense.
I would hope all of us can agree on this. Because it's true!Statement of the year.
LouisHernandez
04-16-23, 21:39
I would hope all of us can agree on this. Because it's true!I would say $300 max and it has to be uncovered. Usually when girls want more than $300 the sex is horrible b / c they are pros. Hard pass.
You pay for it. She's a pro. Stop fooling yourself.
I would say $300 max and it has to be uncovered. Usually when girls want more than $300 the sex is horrible b / c they are pros. Hard pass.
FarFarAway
04-16-23, 23:42
I would say $300 max and it has to be uncovered. Usually when girls want more than $300 the sex is horrible b / c they are pros. Hard pass.Others have observed here over time that giving a SB too much is counterproductive. It reduces their interest in the experience, in favor of the cash.
Famous joke:
Guy in a bar, to a girl: Would you sleep with me for a million dollars?
Girl: I guess so.
Guy: Would you sleep with me for $100.
Girl: NO! What kind of a girl do you think I am?
Guy: We've already established that. We're just haggling about price.
Truly, if I had to give a girl a kilobuck to bang me, my sorry ass should just give up. She wouldn't be doing it for anything other than the dough, right? Exactly the opposite of the situation I want, and the reason I don't go to pros. I want a girl to be into having a good time in the FC, and the $ is the way that it makes sense for her when I am 60+ and she is 22.
Mentioned earlier this week about wild prices and asked if I was doing anything wrong. Lot of ya'll were right. Negotiation and not simping is definitely key, as well as being attractive LOL. There are still girls asking a minimum 500+ which I've find to be a gamble not in a monetary sense but in a performance sense because all the fucks that have been great this past week have been girls who wanted anywhere from 200-300. Also anyone else have any experience with girls not wanting to show their recent tests?
If any one of ya'll have any asian girls to recommend off SA, please dm me!
In my impression, those who are asking for that, they are really looking for a situation where they are a kept woman. Set up in an apartment, etc. It is such a minority of the guys on SA who could do this, they will wait a long time. You first have to have the bucks to afford it, and then either be single and want to stay that way, or have a SO who doesn't care what you do, or who is so clueless you can hide those sorts of expenses from.
I could certainly afford blowing (good term!) that much on a date. It is hard to hide that large an expense.What I find is a lot of girls asking for $1 k, fully knowing they won't get it, but it is all part of their (poorly conceived) strategy to brand themselves, create a perception of value of their pussy versus the competition, and weed out guys who aren't even going to be able to consistently afford a 200-400 meet plus a hotel.
Figuring out the other, non-monetary things they want or need and providing a sense of "I can be that guy" can quickly reduce that GPS to a reasonable range more times than not.
Biggest problem is that sometimes what they want is an ongoing legit relationship, and that problem has only grown since the pandemic. Between the BF / husband seekers and the OF girls, the scene isn't what it used to be.
FarFarAway
04-17-23, 08:55
What I find is a lot of girls asking for $1 k, fully knowing they won't get it, but it is all part of their (poorly conceived) strategy to brand themselves, create a perception of value of their pussy versus the competition, and weed out guys who aren't even going to be able to consistently afford a 200-400 meet plus a hotel.
Figuring out the other, non-monetary things they want or need and providing a sense of "I can be that guy" can quickly reduce that GPS to a reasonable range more times than not.Yes, agreed. I think there is also a sense that if they start there, it puts them as far away as possible from a straight escort. I don't particularly want to start a discussion / flame war on those definitions, just pointing out that there are a lot of girls on SA who want to keep that distinction clear (in their minds). And often put that in their profiles. I personally don't have a problem w / that attitude, I am not looking for a pro either, ideally I'd like to see someone for a while at least. And I've most often in those situations been exclusive.
Peter Johnson
04-17-23, 09:54
I would hope all of us can agree on this. Because it's true!I've never paid more than $500 (and only on two occasions) but that was well worth it (at least the first time). But if I had 10 x more money than I do, then of course some girls would be worth $1 k for a single BFS CIP session. Not a lot, but some, for sure.
It's just a question of how much entertainment and pleasure value do you get for $1000 and how much is that amount of $ worth to you. To a billionaire, it would be incredibly insignificant, like one of us paying $1. Or even to a multi-millionaire, $1 k is not that much. Many of them earn that every few hours, through passive income.
Also, another question would be if you got more pleasure from one $1000 girl than from four $250 girls. That is certainly true in some cases.
So the right girl, on the right day is certainly worth $1000, or more, but I'm not paying it, at least not right now. I could see doing it once, for a true dream girl. I am often losing thousands of $s in an hour, with my crypto holdings, so sometimes I feel like I should spend it before I lose it, even though that doesn't really make sense.
I've never paid more than $500 (and only on two occasions) but that was well worth it (at least the first time). But if I had 10 x more money than I do, then of course some girls would be worth $1 k for a single BFS CIP session. Not a lot, but some, for sure.
It's just a question of how much entertainment and pleasure value do you get for $1000 and how much is that amount of $ worth to you. To a billionaire, it would be incredibly insignificant, like one of us paying $1. Or even to a multi-millionaire, $1 k is not that much. Many of them earn that every few hours, through passive income.
Also, another question would be if you got more pleasure from one $1000 girl than from four $250 girls. That is certainly true in some cases.
So the right girl, on the right day is certainly worth $1000, or more, but I'm not paying it, at least not right now. I could see doing it once, for a true dream girl. I am often losing thousands of $s in an hour, with my crypto holdings, so sometimes I feel like I should spend it before I lose it, even though that doesn't really make sense.Guess it depends on your point of view.
In my mind, a millionaire, at least one with notoriety (like an entertainer or athlete), is probably not paying anything at all, as girls are actively attempting to be their airspace and compete for their attention. Some are opening their legs in hopes of "trapping" a man in the long term. Granted, when that happens, they are getting paid in the long run, but for the ones where that doesn't happen it's back to the pool.
For the millionaires that aren't famous, they may find value in spending that much and taking risk that the experience would actually be worth it. As you say, if you have money to throw away, it doesn't matter I guess.
If you're someone that needs some serious fantasies fulfilled, I could possibly see paying a bit for that (not 1 K, though). But just a regular "get my rocks off" session that may take 5 - 60 minutes to complete? Definitely not 1 K, regardless of how "hot" she is.
GoneForGood97
04-17-23, 10:41
First, dinner with me is never $50. Including drinks at a nice place and the tip alone might be thirty bucks. If anyone is trying to take a hot girl out to eat where the total bill is $50 that's a big part of why they aren't finding success. Second, one should understand that there is not really such a thing as a $1 k girl at all. That is just the price she quotes to someone she didn't really want to fuck in the first place. The art is in being someone she does want to fuck. Being attractive (and tremendously important, physically fit) for ones age indeed goes along way but there is much more to being skilled in handling women than just looks.
There are certainly some who are just high priced escorts and their GPS is not really up for negotiation, but when I sense that type I move on quickly.I need to point out that a guy's physical attractiveness is less important the better your game is. I'm an unattractive guy by any standard (and have definitely had potentials just stop messaging me after getting my pic) but I've found that for the vast, vast majority of these girls, looks are way less important than someone that treats them as more than a piece of meat. Awhile back I posted a story about an absolute knockout I smashed, way way out of my league, and got inside her for way less than other guys. The reason why is I didn't come off like a creep or treat her like a wh*re before we ever met (some of you might remember that story, I posted a screenshot she sent to me of another SD's initial message to her, and he used the same user name here as he did on seeking. Needless to say he saw the error of his ways, learned his lesson and is now a better monger. Just kidding, he apparently posted a rant on this board and got banned, further proving my point).
One of the SBs I'm currently seeing does honest-to-god modeling as a side gig, and if looks mattered at all she'd never have given me the light of day, ESPECIALLY since I know her other couple of SDs pay more than me. But I treat her like a person, make sure she enjoys her time with me both socially and sexually, and we get along great.
I'll also say that treating someone like a person is NOT simping. Simping is debasing yourself. My other SB was bitching to me just the other day about this guy who is trying to get into her pants, and he's simping HARD for her. Helped fix her car, stops by her work randomly and will just bring lunch that she didn't ask for. Once she realized he was simping, she lost all interest (she didn't have much to begin with, but as soon as he became her doormat he became unfuckable), but you better believe she takes the freebies he's throwing along, all the while she keeps telling him she's not interested. But he keeps trying, because he's a simp. And of course anyone who sends $ before ever meeting someone qualifies as well.
Gentlemen, woman already have one pussy. They don't need you to be another one.
LouisHernandez
04-17-23, 12:03
You pay for it. She's a pro. Stop fooling yourself.There's a difference between a SB and an escort. But some SB's are defacto escorts and I avoid those. No pussy is free, ask Bill Gates and Tiger Woods.
LouisHernandez
04-17-23, 12:20
I've never paid more than $500 (and only on two occasions) but that was well worth it (at least the first time). But if I had 10 x more money than I do, then of course some girls would be worth $1 k for a single BFS CIP session. Not a lot, but some, for sure.
It's just a question of how much entertainment and pleasure value do you get for $1000 and how much is that amount of $ worth to you. To a billionaire, it would be incredibly insignificant, like one of us paying $1. Or even to a multi-millionaire, $1 k is not that much. Many of them earn that every few hours, through passive income.
Also, another question would be if you got more pleasure from one $1000 girl than from four $250 girls. That is certainly true in some cases.
So the right girl, on the right day is certainly worth $1000, or more, but I'm not paying it, at least not right now. I could see doing it once, for a true dream girl. I am often losing thousands of $s in an hour, with my crypto holdings, so sometimes I feel like I should spend it before I lose it, even though that doesn't really make sense.I guess that's what hunter biden was paying for his ****** with Daddy's influence peddling monies from Ukraine and China. I will give crackhead credit, he didn't bang anything low quality. Clearly you can spend a crapload of money on super high priced pros but I bet a bunch of the times he got robbed / screwed over.
LouisHernandez
04-17-23, 12:36
Others have observed here over time that giving a SB too much is counterproductive. It reduces their interest in the experience, in favor of the cash.
Famous joke:
Guy in a bar, to a girl: Would you sleep with me for a million dollars?
Girl: I guess so.
Guy: Would you sleep with me for $100.
Girl: NO! What kind of a girl do you think I am?
Guy: We've already established that. We're just haggling about price.
Truly, if I had to give a girl a kilobuck to bang me, my sorry ass should just give up. She wouldn't be doing it for anything other than the dough, right? Exactly the opposite of the situation I want, and the reason I don't go to pros. I want a girl to be into having a good time in the FC, and the $ is the way that it makes sense for her when I am 60+ and she is 22.I typically won't even engage a SB if any talk about money is brought up before we have sex. The logic is as follows: sex that comes "naturally" is exponentially better than the kind that has to be paid for in advance. It's a clear line in the sand I draw to make this whole "hobby" justifiable. It's also a great way to filter low class "pro" women who have no moral compass and who can get a man in a whole lot of trouble. And when I say "in advance" I admit I've succumbed if they asked how much literally as our clothes are coming off. And in those cases I've never had any repeat meetings with any of those women. After services are rendered, we can figure out the price based on how good those services were.
TylerDurden07
04-17-23, 17:05
https://members.seeking.com/member/9542c322-f72b-4690-97d7-f149ebe57bcb
Great conversation so far. Great pics too. Pretty agreeable on allowance. Still, something seems off. Like, you can only text her in the morning. Anytime after that, any texts I send are not delivered. Then, the next morning, the process repeats itself. We're supposed to meet next Sat, but my spidey senses are activated.
Anyone have experience with her?
ColoHobbyist
04-17-23, 17:29
Maybe $165 on average, but it's usually only for the M&G, and since more than half the food and drink cost is for my own consumption (and I like good food), it has almost never turned out to be a bad investment.Exactly. This is the way.
Truth is, if I find a girl where we click, that's obviously the goal. But if it's not good, generally the worst case is I've had a nice meal with some pleasant (or at least visually pleasing) company.
If it's going horribly off the rails, I can usually tell well before food is ordered. I've definitely dropped a Ulysses or Benjamin with the waiter and bailed, but that's been a couple or three times in almost a decade of playing this game. On the other hand, I've found myself having an unplanned (and unpaid) after dinner tryst far more frequently and I say that as a fat, middle-aged, guy who's primary charms are humor, knowledge, and manners.
SeekingHead
04-17-23, 19:01
Exactly. This is the way.
Truth is, if I find a girl where we click, that's obviously the goal. But if it's not good, generally the worst case is I've had a nice meal with some pleasant (or at least visually pleasing) company.
If it's going horribly off the rails, I can usually tell well before food is ordered. I've definitely dropped a Ulysses or Benjamin with the waiter and bailed, but that's been a couple or three times in almost a decade of playing this game. On the other hand, I've found myself having an unplanned (and unpaid) after dinner tryst far more frequently and I say that as a fat, middle-aged, guy who's primary charms are humor, knowledge, and manners.Agree with 100% of what you said, If you drop $80 for a lunch & another $250 for a couple hours of banging a mid 20's coed bareback then it's a great investment. Even if the $80 lunch / dinner only works half the time. My first date off of SA I took there, she never asked for money, my first anal experience, my first strange in over 25 years, woke me up with a BBBJ to completion which was the first in several years for me, one of the reasons why I now look for bbbj to completion.
This was my favorite spot in Savannah when I lived there, the booths were great as it was very private plus very upscale. I took around 20 girls to this place over 3 years, & only struck out once.
https://www.yelp.com/biz_photos/tangerine-fusion-sushi-bar-savannah
PoonHound1969
04-17-23, 19:32
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Great conversation so far. Great pics too. Pretty agreeable on allowance. Still, something seems off. Like, you can only text her in the morning. Anytime after that, any texts I send are not delivered. Then, the next morning, the process repeats itself. We're supposed to meet next Sat, but my spidey senses are activated.
Anyone have experience with her?Just meet her for coffee, check Id, over 18 off to fuck city.
MariettaJoe
04-18-23, 01:32
https://members.seeking.com/member/075bd0a7-d47b-49a8-8d7f-d8ee08c47e02
Scammer, avoid.
DudeNextDoor
04-18-23, 08:47
I talked to her under a different profile a little while back and my spidey senses were activated as well. The language in this profile is pretty much the same as I remember it to be in the other. So right off the bat she's lying about being new to this. I recall in one conversation she said she had just gotten back from her first meet up from the site. They went to dinner and shopping. After a while she stopped responding to my texts after I tried to set up a meeting. Maybe keep the meeting on the books and keep talking just to see what happens. Hopefully you've asked to meet in a public location first.
https://members.seeking.com/member/9542c322-f72b-4690-97d7-f149ebe57bcb
Great conversation so far. Great pics too. Pretty agreeable on allowance. Still, something seems off. Like, you can only text her in the morning. Anytime after that, any texts I send are not delivered. Then, the next morning, the process repeats itself. We're supposed to meet next Sat, but my spidey senses are activated.
Anyone have experience with her?
LouisHernandez
04-18-23, 14:07
Agree with 100% of what you said, If you drop $80 for a lunch & another $250 for a couple hours of banging a mid 20's coed bareback then it's a great investment. Even if the $80 lunch / dinner only works half the time. My first date off of SA I took there, she never asked for money, my first anal experience, my first strange in over 25 years, woke me up with a BBBJ to completion which was the first in several years for me, one of the reasons why I now look for bbbj to completion.
This was my favorite spot in Savannah when I lived there, the booths were great as it was very private plus very upscale. I took around 20 girls to this place over 3 years, & only struck out once.
https://www.yelp.com/biz_photos/tangerine-fusion-sushi-bar-savannahNothing wrong with a lunch date instead of a simple coffee date and it can payoff vs paying $10 for coffee. I've been high dollar dinner scammed a few times so I avoid the "expensive dinner date" requests on a first meeting. Alot of girls on vanilla dating apps do the dinner scam crap too I've read so it's pretty common.
Alot of girls on vanilla dating apps do the dinner scam crap too I've read so it's pretty common.I assume you're referring to the scam where they choose a restaurant that they are in cahoots with and run up a massive tab?
I never let them choose the place. I have had some go so far as to even make a reservation at a place without talking to me about where we're going, but of maybe three times that's ever happened that I can recall, I just politely said I had already chosen a place and met them at that place instead. But it's worth mentioning that the girl should never be allowed to choose the place, just to be safe. Her friend could work there and if nothing else convey your real name if you pay with CC (I recommend cash).
About the closest I've gotten to a dinner scam is maybe every now and then a girl orders an extra side that she knows she won't eat at the table so she can have some food to go. I'm not going to complain about another $11 or whatever in the quest for pussy.
GoneForGood97
04-18-23, 22:03
I assume you're referring to the scam where they choose a restaurant that they are in cahoots with and run up a massive tab?
I never let them choose the place. I have had some go so far as to even make a reservation at a place without talking to me about where we're going, but of maybe three times that's ever happened that I can recall, I just politely said I had already chosen a place and met them at that place instead. But it's worth mentioning that the girl should never be allowed to choose the place, just to be safe. Her friend could work there and if nothing else convey your real name if you pay with CC (I recommend cash).
About the closest I've gotten to a dinner scam is maybe every now and then a girl orders an extra side that she knows she won't eat at the table so she can have some food to go. I'm not going to complain about another $11 or whatever in the quest for pussy.I don't know about any kind of scam, but a common tactic for some SBs and also girls on vanilla dating sites is called "rinsing. " A "rinser" is basically just looking to rinse as many guys as she can for free dinners / drinks etc without ever putting out. One of the big reasons I do coffee or drinks and usually avoid a full dinner on the first date is it automatically filters out the rinsers. Rinsers have a lot in common with wannabe insta models and influencers. Of course, if you're charming enough a girl who had planned on rinsing you may end up going to bed with you, but that's a low odds game.
I also get the feeling, and this is completely just a guess based on the patterns I've seen doing this over a year, but I suspect rinsing has become slightly less common and most rinsers have moved to trying to get SDs to pay for content instead. That's just speculation on my part.
LouisHernandez
04-18-23, 22:30
I don't know about any kind of scam, but a common tactic for some SBs and also girls on vanilla dating sites is called "rinsing. " A "rinser" is basically just looking to rinse as many guys as she can for free dinners / drinks etc without ever putting out. One of the big reasons I do coffee or drinks and usually avoid a full dinner on the first date is it automatically filters out the rinsers. Rinsers have a lot in common with wannabe insta models and influencers. Of course, if you're charming enough a girl who had planned on rinsing you may end up going to bed with you, but that's a low odds game.
I also get the feeling, and this is completely just a guess based on the patterns I've seen doing this over a year, but I suspect rinsing has become slightly less common and most rinsers have moved to trying to get SDs to pay for content instead. That's just speculation on my part.Yes rinsers. And correct never let them choose where to eat. I think sticking to lunch is a safe play. Plus I have more energy during the day for festivities later on if I get lucky.
I talked to her under a different profile a little while back and my spidey senses were activated as well. The language in this profile is pretty much the same as I remember it to be in the other. So right off the bat she's lying about being new to this. I recall in one conversation she said she had just gotten back from her first meet up from the site. They went to dinner and shopping. After a while she stopped responding to my texts after I tried to set up a meeting. Maybe keep the meeting on the books and keep talking just to see what happens. Hopefully you've asked to meet in a public location first.Pretty sure she's a scammer. Talked to her on other profile as well. Then she disappeared and showed up in California. If you notice the UGA photo does not resemble the other pics. Before she'd swapped out the UGA pic with a University Southern Cal pic. She wants to meet up on Sunday so I'll play along.
Anyone seen her before? We made contact and hopefully if things work out might end up seeing her. She seems legit, but early to get meet asap. I just don't know.
https://members.seeking.com/member/0713ee3e-e0bf-4437-9f96-99a1fc367eb5
CarmelFight
04-19-23, 06:00
Anyone seen her before? We made contact and hopefully if things work out might end up seeing her. She seems legit, but early to get meet asap. I just don't know.
https://members.seeking.com/member/0713ee3e-e0bf-4437-9f96-99a1fc367eb5Dayyum she looks great, cute little hoodrat just be careful if she is legit. Like she seems like she knows bunch of thugs idk possibly jump you when why'all together or something.
LouisHernandez
04-19-23, 13:28
Dayyum she looks great, cute little hoodrat just be careful if she is legit. Like she seems like she knows bunch of thugs idk possibly jump you when why'all together or something.I leave the little cute hoodrat fantasies to just that. Fantasies -for the exact reasons you state.
I leave the little cute hoodrat fantasies to just that. Fantasies -for the exact reasons you state.Messing around with the hoodrats is a good way to get robbed or dead.
TylerDurden07
04-19-23, 16:52
I talked to her under a different profile a little while back and my spidey senses were activated as well. The language in this profile is pretty much the same as I remember it to be in the other. So right off the bat she's lying about being new to this. I recall in one conversation she said she had just gotten back from her first meet up from the site. They went to dinner and shopping. After a while she stopped responding to my texts after I tried to set up a meeting. Maybe keep the meeting on the books and keep talking just to see what happens. Hopefully you've asked to meet in a public location first.We'll see how it goes. I have serious doubts she's real, but nothing ventured nothing gained. At least she hasn't asked for an advance so I'm only out time & nothing else.
TravelinSD
04-19-23, 17:48
With you, the OP, and myself, that makes 3 of us that she's meeting on Saturday. Plus the guy who is scheduled for Sunday. She's going to be a busy girl this weekend. I'm not sure what to make of it. The texting seems real. No sign of scam or GPS. I guess we're all waiting for the scam to reveal itself.
We'll see how it goes. I have serious doubts she's real, but nothing ventured nothing gained. At least she hasn't asked for an advance so I'm only out time & nothing else.
LouisHernandez
04-19-23, 18:29
With you, the OP, and myself, that makes 3 of us that she's meeting on Saturday. Plus the guy who is scheduled for Sunday. She's going to be a busy girl this weekend. I'm not sure what to make of it. The texting seems real. No sign of scam or GPS. I guess we're all waiting for the scam to reveal itself.Damn these girls get around. Sometimes ignorance is bliss.
Peter Johnson
04-19-23, 21:02
Messing around with the hoodrats is a good way to get robbed or dead.Yeah, facial tattoos are a no go dealbreaker for me.
LouisHernandez
04-19-23, 22:51
Yeah, facial tattoos are a no go dealbreaker for me.The less tattoos the better honestly. All these young twits covering themselves in tattoos are going to feel really stupid when they hit middle age, assuming they make it that far.
DudeNextDoor
04-20-23, 07:50
So she's gone from "never done this before" and "a bit nervous" to scheduling 3 meets in a day and at least one the next day. And you have to assume that the guys on this board are a fraction of the guys she's talking to. Odds that this is real have just dropped dramatically. But hopefully I'm wrong for at least one of you guys. Good luck!
With you, the OP, and myself, that makes 3 of us that she's meeting on Saturday. Plus the guy who is scheduled for Sunday. She's going to be a busy girl this weekend. I'm not sure what to make of it. The texting seems real. No sign of scam or GPS. I guess we're all waiting for the scam to reveal itself.
I don't know about any kind of scam, but a common tactic for some SBs and also girls on vanilla dating sites is called "rinsing. " A "rinser" is basically just looking to rinse as many guys as she can for free dinners / drinks etc without ever putting out. One of the big reasons I do coffee or drinks and usually avoid a full dinner on the first date is it automatically filters out the rinsers. Rinsers have a lot in common with wannabe insta models and influencers. Of course, if you're charming enough a girl who had planned on rinsing you may end up going to bed with you, but that's a low odds game.
I also get the feeling, and this is completely just a guess based on the patterns I've seen doing this over a year, but I suspect rinsing has become slightly less common and most rinsers have moved to trying to get SDs to pay for content instead. That's just speculation on my part.I've never been hit with a rinse attempt that was just trying to get a free meal. That could be because of how I vet them before the first date, or with how I come across to them (not the type of personality that would be a good candidate for their victim profile).
But more than anything I think it's just that for a girl to get all dolled up and go to the time and effort (and transportation) expense of meeting for dinner, it would not be worth it just for them to get some free food.
So for me at least, the dinner scam is a non issue.
FarFarAway
04-20-23, 09:35
I've never been hit with a rinse attempt that was just trying to get a free meal. That could be because of how I vet them before the first date, or with how I come across to them (not the type of personality that would be a good candidate for their victim profile).Another poster on another thread related his experience in Europe, where it is common for hot young things to pick up older wealthy guys, take them to a restaurant where they have accomplices, order off a 'special' menu with inflated prices, and the girls split the extra dough.
However, that poster also said he was getting incredible women in England right now for like 200 a date (virtue of dollar strength).
TylerDurden07
04-20-23, 12:54
So she's gone from "never done this before" and "a bit nervous" to scheduling 3 meets in a day and at least one the next day. And you have to assume that the guys on this board are a fraction of the guys she's talking to. Odds that this is real have just dropped dramatically. But hopefully I'm wrong for at least one of you guys. Good luck!I have HUGE reservations about her, based on both my own instinct & what you guys have been sharing on here. All I can say is that I've spent now 3 days in a row of frequent to almost constant texting with her. She's shared several really good pics, including one partial nude one as well. Her personality & conversational abilities are much better than the average girl her age that you meet on SA.
Yes, we have a meet set for Saturday late morning now. She gave me the name of her dorm at UGA specifically--where to pick her up. And she says she'll do a video chat with me this evening when I'm available because I'm trying like the devil to assure myself she's real.
All my suspicious instincts say "too good to be true. " But I see this as low risk. I don't live that far from Athens. As with any of these girls, any requests for "advances"which she has not done, at least yet--will be met with termination of contact by me. Plus, I've lined up a plan B in Athens (a known commodity to me & reliable) operating under the assumption that this girl is a fake.
To me, it's worth a shot. If she ghosts or otherwise no-shows, then I'll be on my way to plan B.
CarmelFight
04-20-23, 13:48
I have HUGE reservations about her, based on both my own instinct & what you guys have been sharing on here. All I can say is that I've spent now 3 days in a row of frequent to almost constant texting with her. She's shared several really good pics, including one partial nude one as well. Her personality & conversational abilities are much better than the average girl her age that you meet on SA.
Yes, we have a meet set for Saturday late morning now. She gave me the name of her dorm at UGA specifically--where to pick her up. And she says she'll do a video chat with me this evening when I'm available because I'm trying like the devil to assure myself she's real.
All my suspicious instincts say "too good to be true. " But I see this as low risk. I don't live that far from Athens. As with any of these girls, any requests for "advances"which she has not done, at least yet--will be met with termination of contact by me. Plus, I've lined up a plan B in Athens (a known commodity to me & reliable) operating under the assumption that this girl is a fake.
To me, it's worth a shot. If she ghosts or otherwise no-shows, then I'll be on my way to plan B.LOL why'all have me in suspense over here LOL. I set up a meet with a gorgeous blonde MILF for this weekend. She just sent me a message about getting into a car accident and heading to the hospital. I'm waiting on the "advance" payment for blah blah blah scam so we shall see.
DudeNextDoor
04-20-23, 14:34
I'd be doing the same thing in your situation. Let us know how it goes!
I have HUGE reservations about her, based on both my own instinct & what you guys have been sharing on here. All I can say is that I've spent now 3 days in a row of frequent to almost constant texting with her. She's shared several really good pics, including one partial nude one as well. Her personality & conversational abilities are much better than the average girl her age that you meet on SA.
Yes, we have a meet set for Saturday late morning now. She gave me the name of her dorm at UGA specifically--where to pick her up. And she says she'll do a video chat with me this evening when I'm available because I'm trying like the devil to assure myself she's real.
All my suspicious instincts say "too good to be true. " But I see this as low risk. I don't live that far from Athens. As with any of these girls, any requests for "advances"which she has not done, at least yet--will be met with termination of contact by me. Plus, I've lined up a plan B in Athens (a known commodity to me & reliable) operating under the assumption that this girl is a fake.
To me, it's worth a shot. If she ghosts or otherwise no-shows, then I'll be on my way to plan B.
So she's gone from "never done this before" and "a bit nervous" to scheduling 3 meets in a day and at least one the next day. And you have to assume that the guys on this board are a fraction of the guys she's talking to. Odds that this is real have just dropped dramatically. But hopefully I'm wrong for at least one of you guys. Good luck!Hell! I'm not going in on Sunday after the three of you bang her out on Saturday! LOL! She's trying to cash in that NooB card!
Hell! I'm not going in on Sunday after the three of you bang her out on Saturday! LOL! She's trying to cash in that NooB card!Man we all are eagerly awaiting the results of this. It's like a TV drama.
Member #6704
04-20-23, 18:58
https://members.seeking.com/member/cd9b0995-5991-4410-9997-1fb97843948b
We moved to text.
LouisHernandez
04-20-23, 19:43
Man we all are eagerly awaiting the results of this. It's like a TV drama.It's going to be the classic same day ghost maneuver I predict. It happens to me often especially with the really young ones. If it's not the ghost it's the advance scam or some variation. But good luck gents.
Another poster on another thread related his experience in Europe, where it is common for hot young things to pick up older wealthy guys, take them to a restaurant where they have accomplices, order off a 'special' menu with inflated prices, and the girls split the extra dough.
However, that poster also said he was getting incredible women in England right now for like 200 a date (virtue of dollar strength).I see that as a different playing field than sugaring in the US. Once you get into Europe, particularly eastern countries, the scene (online, bars, whatever) is aplenty with guys who could never get laid in the US to start with, but traveled there to become victim of lots of Russian or similar or expats of related zones, etc. And to be honest and fair, if were in a place where I wasn't getting what I wanted here, the allure of all those amazing looking ruskie-vaggies would be tempting, so I get it. But in that environment it doesn't surprise me when someone gets rinsed in a town they don't know well, where she knows everyone and is in on the take.
That particular scenario is just far removed from what I do. As discussed here, I never recommend letting the girl pick the restaurant, for a number of reasons. First, choosing where to eat for those you provide for is a dominance thing, so always have control of that. It's like driving a car is in control, never let an SB pick you up in her ride -- being the driver creates a psychological scenario in the favor of the driver. Second, if she chooses the restaurant in an area she does know, she could be on the take. Exception of this is if you're traveling with an SB in an area you chose and she can't possibly know, then letting her pick cuisine type or restaurant can sometimes give her the "I'm being spoiled!" vibe, and result in some good cock treatment for you later. But on this board there is a lot of variance in what is considered sugaring, and that last tip mostly applies to true SBs.
TravelinSD
04-20-23, 21:46
I agree that this is definitely a TGTBT situation. If it turns out otherwise I'm happy for the other suitors and I'll pursue at a later time. Good luck to the others!
It's going to be the classic same day ghost maneuver I predict. It happens to me often especially with the really young ones. If it's not the ghost it's the advance scam or some variation. But good luck gents.
I'm having a hell of tough time meeting asian sb here. Just came from L. A and it wasn't as nearly difficult. Any of ya'll want to dm me any leads?
TylerDurden07
04-21-23, 15:17
It's going to be the classic same day ghost maneuver I predict. It happens to me often especially with the really young ones. If it's not the ghost it's the advance scam or some variation. But good luck gents.I've tried to text her twice today. The message wasn't delivered either.
At least she was polite enough not to pull a fast one the day of, lmao.
Glad I got my backup in Athens, so fun will still be had tomorrow.
Now you other dudes who had things set up with her let us know if you had better luck than me. I'd love to know if that happens.
TJennings7024
04-21-23, 17:54
I see that as a different playing field than sugaring in the US. Once you get into Europe, particularly eastern countries, the scene (online, bars, whatever) is aplenty with guys who could never get laid in the US to start with, but traveled there to become victim of lots of Russian or similar or expats of related zones, etc. And to be honest and fair, if were in a place where I wasn't getting what I wanted here, the allure of all those amazing looking ruskie-vaggies would be tempting, so I get it. But in that environment it doesn't surprise me when someone gets rinsed in a town they don't know well, where she knows everyone and is in on the take.
That particular scenario is just far removed from what I do. As discussed here, I never recommend letting the girl pick the restaurant, for a number of reasons. First, choosing where to eat for those you provide for is a dominance thing, so always have control of that. It's like driving a car is in control, never let an SB pick you up in her ride -- being the driver creates a psychological scenario in the favor of the driver. Second, if she chooses the restaurant in an area she does know, she could be on the take. Exception of this is if you're traveling with an SB in an area you chose and she can't possibly know, then letting her pick cuisine type or restaurant can sometimes give her the "I'm being spoiled!" vibe, and result in some good cock treatment for you later. But on this board there is a lot of variance in what is considered sugaring, and that last tip mostly applies to true SBs.Yeah I don't mess around in those places too often. Now southern Europe- different story.
Have any of you traveled with a SB? I travel a crap ton for work, and could show anyone who comes along a good time. Airport lounges, preferred treatment at hotels etc. What does this look like with a SB? I assume trust has to be a factor. You need their real names to use your companion passes or to buy the plane tickets, and they will overhear your name at check-in etc.
I have not attempted this, but curious if anyone has any experience. Feel free to PM.
TylerDurden07
04-21-23, 20:22
https://members.seeking.com/member/cd9b0995-5991-4410-9997-1fb97843948b
We moved to text.Met her for lunch 4-6 months ago. Hot. Great body. But major GPS. Claims she works at a strip club (Tattletales or Pink Pony, can't remember) & makes so much there per night that "500 is insulting. " I didn't offer her 500, but she volunteered that.
If she's become more reasonable now, I'd love to know.
Peter Johnson
04-21-23, 20:46
I'm having a hell of tough time meeting asian sb here. Just came from L. A and it wasn't as nearly difficult. Any of ya'll want to dm me any leads?This entire thread is full of leads, although I get that most of the girls are not asian. But yes the West Coast has more asians and hispanic, and the SE has more blonde white girls, and black girls. I prefer the selection here although better mountains (and desert) out there.
Peter Johnson
04-21-23, 20:52
Have any of you traveled with a SB? I travel a crap ton for work, and could show anyone who comes along a good time. Airport lounges, preferred treatment at hotels etc. What does this look like with a SB? I assume trust has to be a factor. You need their real names to use your companion passes or to buy the plane tickets, and they will overhear your name at check-in etc.
I have not attempted this, but curious if anyone has any experience. Feel free to PM.This was discussed a few weeks ago in this forum. I have thought about it, but haven't found the right girl yet who was deserving, and worth it. I have one right now who I may take somewhere, but yes takes an extra degree of trust to dox yourself, in the process. Personally I would probably get the girl her own hotel room, and not expect her to be around me 24/7. More for her benefit, but for mine as well.
Have any of you traveled with a SB? I travel a crap ton for work, and could show anyone who comes along a good time. Airport lounges, preferred treatment at hotels etc. What does this look like with a SB? I assume trust has to be a factor. You need their real names to use your companion passes or to buy the plane tickets, and they will overhear your name at check-in etc.
I have not attempted this, but curious if anyone has any experience. Feel free to PM.You will reveal your whole life to this girl. Do you really want to do that? No SB is trustworthy, no matter how nice she is. So I recommend against it.
Peter Johnson
04-21-23, 21:46
LOL why'all have me in suspense over here LOL. I set up a meet with a gorgeous blonde MILF for this weekend. She just sent me a message about getting into a car accident and heading to the hospital. I'm waiting on the "advance" payment for blah blah blah scam so we shall see.I had one that stood me up for a planned date, and then ghosted me for several days afterwards. Then she claims she hit a deer, and her phone got broken.
Of course almost certainly was a lie, and I didn't give her another try after that. And that was someone that I had already seen once and we were getting together again. But good way to lose out some semi-regular income, for just laying there with your legs spread and getting a good dicking.
TravelinSD
04-21-23, 22:47
I've actually traveled with a few SBs. You definitely have to know them first, and I mean more that just between the sheets. I'm single, so while I've done my share of one-and-dones, I really search for intelligent babies that actual like to go on dates, so I knew them pretty well. Pre-pandemic they were pretty easy to find. The site now is just basically an upgraded version of BP. Anyway, I highly recommend you have at least 4-6 months, preferably a year experience with anyone you want to take with you on a business trip. Even then I would never have them there during the business portion. I'm too focused on what I'm doing and too many clients around. Plus, you don't want her hanging around on her own while you're at work. Nothing but trouble there. I have always tagged a few days onto the end of a trip and flown her out on the last business day.
Pre-pandemic I was also very successful at finding ladies in the city I was traveling to. Usually dinner and then back to the room for some fun. Again, the GPS and attitude of the babies post pandemic seems to have put an end to this as well.
That's my experience.
Good luck if you give it a try!
Travelin.
Have any of you traveled with a SB? I travel a crap ton for work, and could show anyone who comes along a good time. Airport lounges, preferred treatment at hotels etc. What does this look like with a SB? I assume trust has to be a factor. You need their real names to use your companion passes or to buy the plane tickets, and they will overhear your name at check-in etc.
I have not attempted this, but curious if anyone has any experience. Feel free to PM.
I had one that stood me up for a planned date, and then ghosted me for several days afterwards. Then she claims she hit a deer, and her phone got broken.
Of course almost certainly was a lie, and I didn't give her another try after that. And that was someone that I had already seen once and we were getting together again. But good way to lose out some semi-regular income, for just laying there with your legs spread and getting a good dicking.I tell all the girls I meet. If you lie to me we done! So don't do it.
Shizzy6969
04-22-23, 07:41
I've traveled with a couple SBs in the past. I agree with what Travelin said that it is very much dependent in your connection and familiarity with the SB. But there is something very special about a trip out where you and the sb can let loose and explore a place together.
I tend to plan things out and make sure she's involved in the planning. Outside of logistics, it's always good to plan or talk through personal times and expectations when you can't (or needed a break from each other).
I definitely won't travel with someone that I barely know, or have not had a couple overnights together on.
Have any of you traveled with a SB? I travel a crap ton for work, and could show anyone who comes along a good time. Airport lounges, preferred treatment at hotels etc. What does this look like with a SB? I assume trust has to be a factor. You need their real names to use your companion passes or to buy the plane tickets, and they will overhear your name at check-in etc.
I have not attempted this, but curious if anyone has any experience. Feel free to PM.Airport lounges and service at even the most luxurious hotels are not highly sought-after experiences by most SBs. For her to be excited about tagging along on business travel, most likely either she needs to be a very sheltered small town girl who is new to sugaring and has never left town before, or the travel destination needs to be somewhere exotic with lots of stuff to do, opportunities for her to post interesting selfies to her IG account etc.
Then you have the issue where the girls true colors start to show after a couple of days. Drama or general emotional / mental issues in their personality can start to reveal themselves that weren't revealed in simple overnight stays. Travel sometimes brings out the worst in some people. Do you really want to mix that with your professional life? My two cents anyway.
NapataJohn
04-22-23, 08:49
Do you really want to mix that with your professional life? My two cents anyway.Best way is to go to a small beach town example Playa del carmen and then send her money to book her own ticket and meet you there.
I've traveled with a couple SBs in the past. I agree with what Travelin said that it is very much dependent in your connection and familiarity with the SB. But there is something very special about a trip out where you and the sb can let loose and explore a place together.
I tend to plan things out and make sure she's involved in the planning. Outside of logistics, it's always good to plan or talk through personal times and expectations when you can't (or needed a break from each other).
I definitely won't travel with someone that I barely know, or have not had a couple overnights together on.Like Sopranos said: don't mix business with pleasure unless the business is pleasure.
Best way is to go to a small beach town example Playa del carmen and then send her money to book her own ticket and meet you there.My own policy is to never forward money to an SB, but to each his own there. The poster was asking about business travel tag-along pussy though, and usually with business travel the destination location is predetermined by the nature of the business, thus choosing where to go typically wouldn't be an option.
LouisHernandez
04-22-23, 15:26
Then you have the issue where the girls true colors start to show after a couple of days. Drama or general emotional / mental issues in their personality can start to reveal themselves that weren't revealed in simple overnight stays. Travel sometimes brings out the worst in some people. Do you really want to mix that with your professional life? My two cents anyway.Hey man I don't even want to spend more than a few hours with these girls. They are all pretty much batshit crazy by definition. Fvck around too much and you'll find out. No thanks.
TylerDurden07
04-22-23, 16:31
https://members.seeking.com/member/b77f041d-cf63-4cf0-a043-24e92cc93fd6
Says she's in Athens. Tries to send you something called seekingprivatphoto.com (yes that's the spelling) to see more of her pics. It requires you to enter your SA password to get in. Uh, no! I may have been born at night, but I wasn't born last night!
Avoid!
Hey man I don't even want to spend more than a few hours with these girls. They are all pretty much batshit crazy by definition. Fvck around too much and you'll find out. No thanks.I have done multiple day stays with SBs I have just met many times while I was already traveling. Sometimes it's too much to pass up, when you meet one and get the fuck of your life and then she asks if she can stay overnight with no mention of additional allowance, and next thing you know you've been banging her free several times a day for the last few days.
But, while I have had some great experiences there, I have also had cases where the "true colors" start to emerge after a couple of days and I have to come up with an exit strategy. And I've had cases where I could tell right away it was nobody I wanted in my room unsupervised while I slept, and had to come up with a plan to get her out of the room and on the road fast.
I assume my radar for this sort of thing has been effective, because I've never had someone steal and run or anything like that. I've also managed to hide my true identity, for example making sure anything with my name on it is locked in the hotel safe when I sleep.
So I would never deter someone from doing from same as long as you can do it safely and carefully. However, planning a trip with someone you don't know well and sharing a room with them is probably a bad idea in the first place, even if its not an SB. Add BSCD (bat shit crazy disease), for which the SB population has a high incidence rate for already, on top of everything else and it can turn into a can of shit worms real fast. So for me, mixing that in any capacity with business travel just seems like a bad idea.
https://members.seeking.com/member/b77f041d-cf63-4cf0-a043-24e92cc93fd6
Says she's in Athens. Tries to send you something called seekingprivatphoto.com (yes that's the spelling) to see more of her pics. It requires you to enter your SA password to get in. Uh, no! I may have been born at night, but I wasn't born last night!
Avoid!I don't know why, but I've noticed that a huge number of scam profiles list the girl on the taller side of female height, like 5'7-5'8". I'm not sure if that's because it's a likely height for a professional model, or it's because they've determined through experimentation that taller girls draw more gullible guys, or what. But it's definitely a recurring pattern.
I don't know why, but I've noticed that a huge number of scam profiles list the girl on the taller side of female height, like 5'7-5'8". I'm not sure if that's because it's a likely height for a professional model, or it's because they've determined through experimentation that taller girls draw more gullible guys, or what. But it's definitely a recurring pattern.Idk if profile had Athens as location when you first saw but says Georgia, Georgia now. They left out their location and it only puts the state. I never take these profiles serious or even engage them. 99.9 percent a scammer.
LouisHernandez
04-22-23, 21:55
https://members.seeking.com/member/b77f041d-cf63-4cf0-a043-24e92cc93fd6
Says she's in Athens. Tries to send you something called seekingprivatphoto.com (yes that's the spelling) to see more of her pics. It requires you to enter your SA password to get in. Uh, no! I may have been born at night, but I wasn't born last night!
Avoid!That's definitely a TGTBT profile anyway.
CuriousVaMan
04-23-23, 13:52
What did Charlie Sheen (allegedly) say?
I don't pay them to come over; I pay them to go away.
Hey man I don't even want to spend more than a few hours with these girls. They are all pretty much batshit crazy by definition. Fvck around too much and you'll find out. No thanks.
LouisHernandez
04-23-23, 19:07
What did Charlie Sheen (allegedly) say?
I don't pay them to come over; I pay them to go away.Charlie did indeed. One of his more famous lines.
I've tried to text her twice today. The message wasn't delivered either.
At least she was polite enough not to pull a fast one the day of, lmao.
Glad I got my backup in Athens, so fun will still be had tomorrow.
Now you other dudes who had things set up with her let us know if you had better luck than me. I'd love to know if that happens.Did anyone actually meet up with her? Was supposed to have something for yesterday afternoon that I set up on Wednesday. After I asked for proof of age (I'd with name / personal info blacked out) she ghosted. Went back saying I could just see it in person and no response.
Met up with this one for a meet and greet over some drinks. Definitely her in the pics and gives on the princess wannabe vibes.
Intrigues me though. Wants 1 k and high end hotels.
https://members.seeking.com/member/2005b94e-c700-4e69-a301-d50c817558fa
LouisHernandez
04-24-23, 11:33
Met up with this one for a meet and greet over some drinks. Definitely her in the pics and gives on the princess wannabe vibes.
Intrigues me though. Wants 1 k and high end hotels.
https://members.seeking.com/member/2005b94e-c700-4e69-a301-d50c817558faPlease brother, don't even consider 1 K. No pussy is worth that. Not only that you are hurting the rest of us by inflating these SB's expectations.
LovesMuffins
04-24-23, 12:03
Anyone ever visit with this young lady?
https://www.secretbenefits.com/next/profile/98a0bf8fabe25704
She says she lives in Atlanta and travels around frequently. Man, those eyebrows, though.
Please brother, don't even consider 1 K. No pussy is worth that. Not only that you are hurting the rest of us by inflating these SB's expectations.I agree, I stick with the $300 take it or leave it. There's always someone else!
Plus seemed fake AF.
LogJammin18
04-24-23, 13:33
I would say $300 max and it has to be uncovered. Usually when girls want more than $300 the sex is horrible b / c they are pros. Hard pass.No truer words have ever been spoken. The best sugar s $x is with an "innocent newbie" at or below 300. Raw dog.
LogJammin18
04-24-23, 13:56
Did anyone actually meet up with her? Was supposed to have something for yesterday afternoon that I set up on Wednesday. After I asked for proof of age (I'd with name / personal info blacked out) she ghosted. Went back saying I could just see it in person and no response.Let's see if the info she was giving was matching just to see if she is real in the first place.
For me, her name started with an A (will withhold full name) was from a town in Northwest Georgia. Freshman at UGA in the dorms. She told me her Soro and it just so happened to be the sorority of the girl I saw all of last year at UGA. She said it was actually my SB that told her about Seeking and how much fun she had with her daddy (me). I was thinking. "hell yea, I just got myself laid". Ha. Anyway, if that info matches, I will hit up my last year's girl and see if she is real.
Let me know.
O, and someone tell me if her profile is still up. It is not for me.
https://members.seeking.com/member/9542c322-f72b-4690-97d7-f149ebe57bcb
FarFarAway
04-24-23, 14:04
Met up with this one for a meet and greet over some drinks. Definitely her in the pics and gives on the princess wannabe vibes.
Intrigues me though. Wants 1 k and high end hotels.
https://members.seeking.com/member/2005b94e-c700-4e69-a301-d50c817558faPersonally, I would not be interested in her at all. There are some super hot Asian. American women around me in SoCal who I would choose first over this one. Definitely, someone young and refined is worth a few hundred, but it would never ever be in my mind to go as high as she wants. Those who are asking for those amounts, they are hoping to be a kept woman in my experience, they want to be set up with an apartment and a car, want to live a life of leisure, which even in Atlanta costs probably 60 K / yr.
Congrats on even getting to a M&G though.
Member #6718
04-24-23, 15:44
Met up with this one for a meet and greet over some drinks. Definitely her in the pics and gives on the princess wannabe vibes.
Intrigues me though. Wants 1 k and high end hotels.
https://members.seeking.com/member/2005b94e-c700-4e69-a301-d50c817558faMy regular sb is Asian, absolutely much hotter than what this chick looks like, two years younger, a hell of a lot of fun. And I pay her half that for full overnights. Get a grip even thinking about 1 k LOL.
TylerDurden07
04-24-23, 17:05
Let's see if the info she was giving was matching just to see if she is real in the first place.
For me, her name started with an A (will withhold full name) was from a town in Northwest Georgia. Freshman at UGA in the dorms. She told me her Soro and it just so happened to be the sorority of the girl I saw all of last year at UGA. She said it was actually my SB that told her about Seeking and how much fun she had with her daddy (me). I was thinking. "hell yea, I just got myself laid". Ha. Anyway, if that info matches, I will hit up my last year's girl and see if she is real.
Let me know.
O, and someone tell me if her profile is still up. It is not for me.
https://members.seeking.com/member/9542c322-f72b-4690-97d7-f149ebe57bcbMatches what she told me.
My regular sb is Asian, absolutely much hotter than what this chick looks like, two years younger, a hell of a lot of fun. And I pay her half that for full overnights. Get a grip even thinking about 1 k LOL.No shame, but sauce?
2me4Looking2
04-24-23, 17:50
I had my account suspended today for solicitation even though I have not discussed sex or money on the site with anyone. I am very careful about that. I believe it was Olivia and I don't have a link because she blocked me immediately. Over texting she mentioned that men are looking for sex on there and she wasn't open to that and I responded that it was important to me as well and no hard feelings good luck with your search. I never discussed money at all, but then I went to the site and had the notice. Luckily I just had to watch a video and answer a few questions and my account is back up. Her profile name is Olivia and I'd stay away.
For those of you that think you blocking them will stop them from reporting you, that isn't true. You can still report someone that blocks you.
Let's see if the info she was giving was matching just to see if she is real in the first place.
For me, her name started with an A (will withhold full name) was from a town in Northwest Georgia. Freshman at UGA in the dorms. She told me her Soro and it just so happened to be the sorority of the girl I saw all of last year at UGA. She said it was actually my SB that told her about Seeking and how much fun she had with her daddy (me). I was thinking. "hell yea, I just got myself laid". Ha. Anyway, if that info matches, I will hit up my last year's girl and see if she is real.
Let me know.
O, and someone tell me if her profile is still up. It is not for me.
https://members.seeking.com/member/9542c322-f72b-4690-97d7-f149ebe57bcbYep, told me her name is Amanda. And it's still up. Weird thing was her snap emoji was of a black girl and "real" name didn't match up. Guessing she is real though as would think would have heard back from others that she ghosted. If she's real I'd definitely want to keep that a secret too ha.
LouisHernandez
04-24-23, 20:58
No truer words have ever been spoken. The best sugar s $x is with an "innocent newbie" at or below 300. Raw dog.That's the whole goal of this game. Anything less than that is pointless.
LouisHernandez
04-24-23, 21:01
I had my account suspended today for solicitation even though I have not discussed sex or money on the site with anyone. I am very careful about that. I believe it was Olivia and I don't have a link because she blocked me immediately. Over texting she mentioned that men are looking for sex on there and she wasn't open to that and I responded that it was important to me as well and no hard feelings good luck with your search. I never discussed money at all, but then I went to the site and had the notice. Luckily I just had to watch a video and answer a few questions and my account is back up. Her profile name is Olivia and I'd stay away.
For those of you that think you blocking them will stop them from reporting you, that isn't true. You can still report someone that blocks you.Oh for christ sake, what a dumb cvnt. She must have uploaded a screenshot of your texts to those idiots at SA. SA sucks anyway, try sdm.
Plisknoob1
04-24-23, 21:18
Yep, told me her name is Amanda. And it's still up. Weird thing was her snap emoji was of a black girl and "real" name didn't match up. Guessing she is real though as would think would have heard back from others that she ghosted. If she's real I'd definitely want to keep that a secret too ha.Look up _. Laurenjones in IG.
Look up _. Laurenjones in IG.Thanks! Yeah the pic in the red Dawgs jersey with the pom Pom matches. Others on the IG confirm the others she has on SA are not her (she's not super skinny, a little paler, and looks a little taller on IG). Unless the super hot girl decided to steal someone else's pic to be their public (highly doubt). Also looks like she's still in HS so super risky. Probably why she got spooked by the age I'd, which is definitely why you ask!
TylerDurden07
04-24-23, 22:14
Look up _. Laurenjones in IG.I did. Good find. Matches up with the profile pic. But. Doesn't match up with other pics in the bio. And doesn't match with the pics she sent me. Whoever this girl is, she using what I think may be the pics of 3 different girls.
She's wasted not just my time, but the time of many guys on here.
Would really like to know if this is even a real girl.
I did. Good find. Matches up with the profile pic. But. Doesn't match up with other pics in the bio. And doesn't match with the pics she sent me. Whoever this girl is, she using what I think may be the pics of 3 different girls.
She's wasted not just my time, but the time of many guys on here.
Would really like to know if this is even a real girl.Some scammer has used the non-UGA pics before along with another pic with UGA gear on. Profile disappeared and later showed up in LA with another stolen college girls pic from USC. Betcha dollar or donut that poor girl on IG got pics stolen. She's at least consistent in her story tellin. Almost busted her as she said she'd met up at the Holiday Inn which no longer exists. I'll let Logjammin sniff her out, but she's already blocked him.
LogJammin18
04-25-23, 07:51
Some scammer has used the non-UGA pics before along with another pic with UGA gear on. Profile disappeared and later showed up in LA with another stolen college girls pic from USC. Betcha dollar or donut that poor girl on IG got pics stolen. She's at least consistent in her story tellin. Almost busted her as she said she'd met up at the Holiday Inn which no longer exists. I'll let Logjammin sniff her out, but she's already blocked him.Yea, that Lauren girl at UGA natty game in January is a Sr in High School that will be at UGA next year and live down is South GA and I am sure has no idea she is all over a "bang an old guy for money" site. The other pics of "Amanda" has are other girls. Just hope it's not someone collecting real pics of us by text and other info. But, who knows.
My Kappa cutie told me that no Amanda that looks like any of those pics are in her sorority at UGA and she pointed out those girls are clearly different girls in different pics. It's funny how a girls that age have a better eye for that then those of us just thinking with our cacks.
O, and Plisknoob1, what software did you use to track that Insta pic. My old photo tracking stuff only pics up on outfits now and tries to sell me sundresses. LOL.
NewAnonymousName
04-25-23, 08:46
I did. Good find. Matches up with the profile pic. But. Doesn't match up with other pics in the bio. And doesn't match with the pics she sent me. Whoever this girl is, she using what I think may be the pics of 3 different girls.
She's wasted not just my time, but the time of many guys on here.
Would really like to know if this is even a real girl.What's her angle? So far, no one has reported that she asked for money up front.
DudeNextDoor
04-25-23, 09:10
I've had another experience with a profile on Seeking that I could only assume just wanted to waste my time. She never asked for money or any personal info. Everything pretty normal outside of being a little stinted in replies. We'd set up day / time to meet for coffee. When I'd try to confirm before the date she'd go dark until a day or so after and apologize with some kind of excuse. It didn't cost me anything other than the few minutes here and there texting so I didn't think too much of it. Came to a head when we had one last try to meet. She confirmed the night before she'd be there, knew the location and talked about what it was near which broke the pattern and made it plausible it would work this time. So I went and she didn't show up. Later she profusely apologized about sleeping in blah blah but I just let it go at that point. So either super flakey or someone on the other end who likes to waste people's time.
What's her angle? So far, no one has reported that she asked for money up front.
FarFarAway
04-25-23, 11:12
I've had another experience with a profile on Seeking that I could only assume just wanted to waste my time. She never asked for money or any personal info. Everything pretty normal outside of being a little stinted in replies. We'd set up day / time to meet for coffee. When I'd try to confirm before the date she'd go dark until a day or so after and apologize with some kind of excuse. It didn't cost me anything other than the few minutes here and there texting so I didn't think too much of it. Came to a head when we had one last try to meet. She confirmed the night before she'd be there, knew the location and talked about what it was near which broke the pattern and made it plausible it would work this time. So I went and she didn't show up. Later she profusely apologized about sleeping in blah blah but I just let it go at that point. So either super flakey or someone on the other end who likes to waste people's time.IDK that girl of course, or this current situation. However, there are some girls who are truly newbies, are intrigued by the arrangement world, but truly don't have the guts to follow through. That can lead to the sort of behavior you describe. I don't mind about this, because if you can turn a girl, you get a true non-pro who might be very pliable to your wishes.
Peter Johnson
04-25-23, 11:37
I've had another experience with a profile on Seeking that I could only assume just wanted to waste my time. She never asked for money or any personal info. Everything pretty normal outside of being a little stinted in replies. We'd set up day / time to meet for coffee. When I'd try to confirm before the date she'd go dark until a day or so after and apologize with some kind of excuse. It didn't cost me anything other than the few minutes here and there texting so I didn't think too much of it. Came to a head when we had one last try to meet. She confirmed the night before she'd be there, knew the location and talked about what it was near which broke the pattern and made it plausible it would work this time. So I went and she didn't show up. Later she profusely apologized about sleeping in blah blah but I just let it go at that point. So either super flakey or someone on the other end who likes to waste people's time.Probably some wacky, flaky girl but certainly could be some dude with way too much time on his hands. But no fun to think about this, so I still just assume it's a female. Of course can always do a verification pic to make sure it's a woman. I have only done this a couple of times, but I should ask for one more often.
Plisknoob1
04-25-23, 12:54
Yea, that Lauren girl at UGA natty game in January is a Sr in High School that will be at UGA next year and live down is South GA and I am sure has no idea she is all over a "bang an old guy for money" site. The other pics of "Amanda" has are other girls. Just hope it's not someone collecting real pics of us by text and other info. But, who knows.
My Kappa cutie told me that no Amanda that looks like any of those pics are in her sorority at UGA and she pointed out those girls are clearly different girls in different pics. It's funny how a girls that age have a better eye for that then those of us just thinking with our cacks.
O, and Plisknoob1, what software did you use to track that Insta pic. My old photo tracking stuff only pics up on outfits now and tries to sell me sundresses. LOL.https://facecheck.id/
TylerDurden07
04-25-23, 17:06
What's her angle? So far, no one has reported that she asked for money up front.I guess it could be one of three things:
1) She's a real college girl who's interested in getting some financial help, but gets cold feet at the last minute; or.
2) She's a college-age girl who gets a perverse thrill out of leading dudes on, & then pulling the rug out from under them; or.
3) It's just some dude who's getting a laugh for reasons similar to #3.
If anyone ever finds out the real truth, please share. It's very annoying.
I guess it could be one of three things:
1) She's a real college girl who's interested in getting some financial help, but gets cold feet at the last minute; or.
2) She's a college-age girl who gets a perverse thrill out of leading dudes on, & then pulling the rug out from under them; or.
3) It's just some dude who's getting a laugh for reasons similar to #3.
If anyone ever finds out the real truth, please share. It's very annoying.I was scammed by a similar profile 4 years ago. Initially she didn't ask for money, we would just text. Then I volunteered to buy her Amazon gift card. After that, she kept asking for more money. She would never meet, have video chat or anything like that. But she was really good at pretending. Moral of the story: UGA students don't do that. This is probably a dude getting a kick out of wasting someone else's time. I cut my losses with Amazon gift card and never again sent money to anyone before meeting. There's a lot of scam in sugar scene, which is why I quit the scene.
LouisHernandez
04-25-23, 22:51
I guess it could be one of three things:
1) She's a real college girl who's interested in getting some financial help, but gets cold feet at the last minute; or.
2) She's a college-age girl who gets a perverse thrill out of leading dudes on, & then pulling the rug out from under them; or.
3) It's just some dude who's getting a laugh for reasons similar to #3.
If anyone ever finds out the real truth, please share. It's very annoying.These girls flake out more times than not by a wide margin now. It's a dopamine hit for them to get attention from older men perhaps. Don't overthink it, just move on to the next potential candidate.
SeekingHead
04-26-23, 10:58
Anybody out there looking for some fun with a married woman? I have banged 2 other women with profiles like this, both had husbands who were cucks, & wanted to watch their wife get banged, plus both women were really into it. I will admit it filled a fantasy for me banging a hot wife in front of her husband. One of the couples used seeking as a way to screen pots for her, & didn't ask for $$'s.
https://members.seeking.com/member/3405c689-bc21-4bec-bf4c-4c0fd3494854
Profile.
I am a hot blonde who loves to have fun. I love to dance and go to the beach. My husband supports and helps me in my seeking of those who want to be entertained. He loves to see me have fun.
LogJammin18
04-26-23, 11:27
Anybody out there looking for some fun with a married woman? I have banged 2 other women with profiles like this, both had husbands who were cucks, & wanted to watch their wife get banged, plus both women were really into it. I will admit it filled a fantasy for me banging a hot wife in front of her husband. One of the couples used seeking as a way to screen pots for her, & didn't ask for $$'s.
https://members.seeking.com/member/3405c689-bc21-4bec-bf4c-4c0fd3494854
Profile.
I am a hot blonde who loves to have fun. I love to dance and go to the beach. My husband supports and helps me in my seeking of those who want to be entertained. He loves to see me have fun.Is that the hot blonde's grandma?
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