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TylerDurden07
03-01-23, 16:01
Or at least tread carefully. She was literally the first would be baby I made contact with last fall. She would send me Snapchat messages every morning which was kind of cool for a while but mostly painful. I guess she's a Cowboys fan, which strike one. She sent me some videos from a bar one Sunday morning where presumably she was meeting with friends and drinking. We had made plans to meet at a hotel the next day for a 'massage' and whatever else would happen from there. She never showed and snapped some bullshit about staying out too late and leaving her keys at the bar. I split since it looked like she'd be an hour late. I chalked her up to being the definition of a time waster but YMMV.I had some contact with her, though never got as far as scheduling a date with her. She left me the impression that a massage with HE is probably all you're going to get. If someone else has gotten more from her, I'd love to be corrected on my impression. Otherwise, I just consider her a waste of time.
WoodstockShane
03-01-23, 18:06
Does anyone have information about MyPleasure1215? Her profile says she's a certified massage therapist, which could be a nice twist.
https://members.seeking.com/member/085fecb7-c9aa-4731-9d53-67748d679baf
I also heard from SmartAngel. Does anyone have experience with her to offer a review?
https://members.seeking.com/member/9ad640c6-dfb7-4925-b1ec-d7b9cd9428d5She's strange. She was one of the First Ladies I met from SA. She seemed ok at first, sent me cute vids, pics, etc. We eventually met, ostensibly for a massage, but there was no massage, just some BBFS, BBBJ. I don't recall what the damage was for her "massage" rates. It got weird the following few days. She starts sending me copies of bills, and empty bank accounts, sob stories and other BS.
She looked like her pics and all, but I would avoid.
Stay Frosty.
https://members.seeking.com/member/4e73b78e-6650-442a-85a6-5c95eb1749ef
Probably the biggest case of GPS I've come across.
Offended at $1500-$2,000 monthly allowance, says that we're "not even in the same universe with that offer". Okay then, bye.Message from her months ago. I just never even replied to her after that. I won't say ya not in the same universe though. 2 k /3 k while apart isn't worlds apart. Good luck!!
Member #6704
03-01-23, 20:04
https://members.seeking.com/member/62517153-262b-4df2-9474-109232dbda04
Real. But wants $4 k.
JokeKing11
03-01-23, 20:28
https://members.seeking.com/member/8fe2467c-e574-4c3a-8acd-e9a1ef64b9b3
Any info on this girl?
Thanks.
Member #6704
03-01-23, 20:45
https://members.seeking.com/member/3412bea0-1da4-4589-90fb-01227b8407f7
Another one, that wants $1 k per meet.
SugarDaddio
03-01-23, 21:48
My experience has seen a higher ppm for sure. I love the thrill of finding new pussy but I find myself going back to my standbys due to the price of sweet new pussy. Never thought Joe Biden could influence the price of pussy but maybe I was wrong LOL.
As always, may the pussy be with you.
SD.
https://members.seeking.com/member/3412bea0-1da4-4589-90fb-01227b8407f7
Another one, that wants $1 k per meet.
Hey guys I'm getting back to the hunt after a few years off. Yeah I know about the prices and it seems a lot more work than before. When I'm unsure about a profile and do an image search should I move on if that image returns nothing or it that a good thing? I'm looking at profiles that have 5 or 6 pictures posted, but I'm just not sure if its a real woman in the Atlanta area. I'm getting the itch. Thanks Oily.
Hootie 1998
03-02-23, 02:04
Alleykat1 from seeking —— Someone said she is back around and now I can't find the post.
Not sure if she just didn't want to quote or had gps but couldn't get any leeway with her.
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https://members.seeking.com/member/3412bea0-1da4-4589-90fb-01227b8407f7
Another one, that wants $1 k per meet.No. There is some foolish Tiktok influencer that tells the girls they should be getting 1 k a month. She puts on sugaring skits teaches the girls how to finesse and everything. She had over 1 m views on her skits. And you know this generation takes social media as law.
BrownSugaTwo
03-02-23, 13:48
Sanrioluvr.
https://members.seeking.com/member/a160f9f0-81a4-4281-b026-4ba6c1420274
Not my usual type, but I'm in the mood for cute, so I figured I'd reach out if she got good reviews.
IsabelleR12.
https://members.seeking.com/member/245b9aa0-5574-45d0-b4fa-7a28b3799f01
I'm pretty sure she's been mentioned before, but a search didn't turn up anything.
Atlcutie30.
https://members.seeking.com/member/aaec6cd2-e146-4948-942a-42eee9e61bcd
I know she's been mentioned before, and I messaged her once in the past. But, does anyone know if she she only sees white guys? When I reached out, she never responded.
BeautifulMind.
https://members.seeking.com/member/53975180-ab02-49b8-bd94-8ef36c4e1587
This one has been mentioned before and is completely out of her mind with GPS. Still. She has the MILF look that I sometimes love, LOL. Has anyone ever managed to get in there?
WoodstockShane
03-02-23, 14:51
https://members.seeking.com/member/aaec6cd2-e146-4948-942a-42eee9e61bcd
I know she's been mentioned before, and I messaged her once in the past. But, does anyone know if she she only sees white guys? When I reached out, she never responded.
I had messaged with her on and off, until we finally agreed to meet in person (white guy here, and not sure if she only sees white guys). Anyway we met in person, and it was like she was in the middle of a cocaine / meth bender. We met on a Sunday for brunch, and she proceeds to tell me that she was out and awake that previous evening, and when I tell you she wouldn't / couldn't stop talking, I mean. She couldn't. It started to get weird. When I finally got the check to get the hell out of there, she walked with me to my car, gets in with me, and was downright taken aback when I told her I was passing on doing anything further with her that day (I really meant, not ever seeing her again). I needed to go somewhere and have a drink to calm my nerves LOL. Her pics are great, and I'm sure when she's in her right mind, manages to look pretty good. That was not the case when I saw her, looked like she'd been up all night, and been ridden hard and put away wet.
Stay Frosty.
SoonerFan72
03-02-23, 18:45
Ok, I appreciate those who helped me in the past with getting back on Seeking, after getting banned, so I thought I would write a short guide for others. (And even if you aren't banned, there are some tips about what prepaid cards seem to work to renew subscriptions).
1. Make a brand new Seeking account, with all new information. I usually just do this at home, behind a VPN, and with a new Proton email address. But you could use public wifi if you preferred. Sometimes it will insta-ban that newly created account, and other times it will let you proceed. But I would assume that gmail, or similar, is probably even more likely to work. (Don't use your regular naked home IP address, as that's just careless and ill advised).
2. Once you have the new Seeking account created, and can logout and log back in, then go ahead and write at least a short profile. I don't know if this makes a difference, but just seems better to have some profile info in there when you go to try to make a payment to start the subscription. You can go ahead and upload a photo too, although I usually wait on that. But get the account working for a day or two, and make sure can login on home computer and/or phone. You can still do searches, and set some girls as "Favorites", that you can message later when you get the subscription activated.
3. Buy a prepaid VISA card and use their website to register it with all fake information. I use the cards in the attached photo and you check their balance and register them at: https://mygift.giftcardmall.com/. I have heard that OneVanilla prepaid cards will work as well, and also Greendot cards, but someone said you have to call to register them and use 000-00-0000 as SSN#. However, I haven't tried any of those, and have only used the giftcardmall prepaid VISA cards that I buy at ATL area Publix grocery stores.
4. Go to a McDonalds, or other public WIFI, and login to Seeking that way, and not behind any VPN. Choose the subscription you want, and use information that matches the prepaid card registration. Be sire to enter the information EXACTLY as you did on the prepaid card site. Just copy and paste, to be safe.
5. Hopefully it will work and then maybe use the site for a few minutes, then log out and clear cookies and then should be able to login behind VPN, at home, etc.FYI, I just followed the link to the giftcardmall.com, and bought the virtual visa. It worked just like described above. Fake name, address, and phone number.
SeekingHead
03-02-23, 19:54
SA inserts a cookie on your computer which is how they know who you are, the cookie ties the mac of your computer with your account. This is how come getting on a VPN doesn't help in a lot of cases, you need to clear all the cookies in your browser. Even clearing the cookies a lot of times doesn't work as websites use different type trackers to avoid this.
There is an extension called ghostery which will block & clear all the shit websites use to track us.
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BrownSugaTwo
03-02-23, 23:00
https://members.seeking.com/member/aaec6cd2-e146-4948-942a-42eee9e61bcd
I know she's been mentioned before, and I messaged her once in the past. But, does anyone know if she she only sees white guys? When I reached out, she never responded.
I had messaged with her on and off, until we finally agreed to meet in person (white guy here, and not sure if she only sees white guys). Anyway we met in person, and it was like she was in the middle of a cocaine / meth bender. We met on a Sunday for brunch, and she proceeds to tell me that she was out and awake that previous evening, and when I tell you she wouldn't / couldn't stop talking, I mean. She couldn't. It started to get weird. When I finally got the check to get the hell out of there, she walked with me to my car, gets in with me, and was downright taken aback when I told her I was passing on doing anything further with her that day (I really meant, not ever seeing her again). I needed to go somewhere and have a drink to calm my nerves LOL. Her pics are great, and I'm sure when she's in her right mind, manages to look pretty good. That was not the case when I saw her, looked like she'd been up all night, and been ridden hard and put away wet.
Stay Frosty.Thanks for the info. She's going to the bottom of the list, LOL.
GoneForGood97
03-03-23, 11:59
Sanrioluvr.
IsabelleR12.
https://members.seeking.com/member/245b9aa0-5574-45d0-b4fa-7a28b3799f01
I'm pretty sure she's been mentioned before, but a search didn't turn up anything.
She's real and been reviewed positively here in the past. I negotiated her to around 300-350 PPM, but we could never get schedules aligned.
I miss backpage. . .
I'm just going to leave this right here.
Glhf.
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I blocked the girl on my previous post. However, her profile was up on another tab.
Lucky us.
Glhf.
https://members.seeking.com/member/11dde9fd-fd06-48dc-9747-12ce9c143d9a
Got a m / g with this one later. Any info would be appreciated.
The amount of GPS out there is fkn insane. Def going to have to start looking at other avenues for finding sbs.
Peter Johnson
03-04-23, 19:45
FYI, I just followed the link to the giftcardmall.com, and bought the virtual visa. It worked just like described above. Fake name, address, and phone number.That's good to know that the virtual visa worked, but what did you buy it with? If you used a regular credit card, then still links your identity to the card, to your SA account, but of course another couple of degrees of separation there. I just figure cash is king, with these types of situations. But it's good to have that backup, if the Publix VISA cards stop working.
I miss backpage. . .
I'm just going to leave this right here.
Glhf.
PrinceOfFools
03-05-23, 01:20
That's good to know that the virtual visa worked, but what did you buy it with? If you used a regular credit card, then still links your identity to the card, to your SA account, but of course another couple of degrees of separation there. I just figure cash is king, with these types of situations. But it's good to have that backup, if the Publix VISA cards stop working.Who / what exactly are you trying to hide from? There isn't a way to link buying a prepaid or gift card with a credit card that bought them, they aren't serialized and documented at sale. The level of access to even begin to build that link requires a warrant and it would still be near impossible unless you flat out told someone what you were doing. There's a reason scammers use prepaid cards, they're impossible to track down if you use a fake name and address to register it.
Most of the account problems people are having is because they do a bunch of shady stuff and trigger the fraud detection seeking is running. Sites with a lot of fraud issues build algorithms that use a reputation score to detect likely fraud. Score gets too high, it just bans you. Week old account using a VPN paying with a gift card? Easy ban. It is very easy to pick out a VPN if you're using a public VPN provider or an onion router, the IP space is pretty static. If you want anonymity, use public wifi. Did you know many ISPs have their customers routers broadcast a public SSID? Comcasts is called 'xfinitywifi' and dumb users often leave it on, others like ATT do it too. You can often find these in residential areas, just park on the street and use it.
You can also do something like run a VPS somewhere like linode or digitalocean and run your own VPN service there and connect. Less likely to catch a ban and you can still pay for it with a prepaid.
BrownSugaTwo
03-05-23, 02:34
She's real and been reviewed positively here in the past. I negotiated her to around 300-350 PPM, but we could never get schedules aligned.Appreciate the info. Thanks.
Peter Johnson
03-05-23, 11:26
Who / what exactly are you trying to hide from? There isn't a way to link buying a prepaid or gift card with a credit card that bought them, they aren't serialized and documented at sale. The level of access to even begin to build that link requires a warrant and it would still be near impossible unless you flat out told someone what you were doingIf you don't understand the inherent value of privacy and anonymity, to a reasonable extent whenever possible, in this hobby, I doubt I have the ability to explain it to you. But if you do buy a prepaid card with a credit card, then there is a paper trail that links them. I prefer to pay cash, when possible. Risk / reward, cost / benefit says that's what I do.
GoneForGood97
03-05-23, 12:07
FriendlyPunk.
https://members.seeking.com/member/5475ccf3-68c0-4801-9819-f81230b1dbb4
Real and real fun. Sweet girl but flakey (why I stopped seeing her). Eager to please and no wasn't in her vocabulary. Won't host, so 200 plus hotel. Blue/purple hair is most recent.
Don't be a creep or a dick and she's pretty easy to land.
Peter Johnson
03-05-23, 15:14
FriendlyPunk.
https://members.seeking.com/member/5475ccf3-68c0-4801-9819-f81230b1dbb4
Real and real fun. Sweet girl but flakey (why I stopped seeing her). Eager to please and no wasn't in her vocabulary. Won't host, so 200 plus hotel. Blue/purple hair is most recent.
Don't be a creep or a dick and she's pretty easy to land.Yes, very flakey. She ghosted me for a couple of months, and then suddenly texted like that never happened and was interested in getting together. We had talked quite a bit and were going to meet up, but then she found some other guy and just ghosted me...then he got tired of her, after several weeks, so she turns up. I don't give women $$$ for that behavior, but sounds like could be worth the hassle, if you don't care about that. I've given some girls 2nd chances, and they really came through, so you just never know. At this point, if someone just disappears and can't take 15 seconds to send me a polite reply, it ruins the mood, and I'll pass. Plenty of others out there.... many of who will do the same thing.... but some will not.
PrinceOfFools
03-05-23, 18:22
If you don't understand the inherent value of privacy and anonymity, to a reasonable extent whenever possible, in this hobby, I doubt I have the ability to explain it to you. But if you do buy a prepaid card with a credit card, then there is a paper trail that links them. I prefer to pay cash, when possible. Risk / reward, cost / benefit says that's what I do.I just explained a bunch of actual privacy choices, I am very privacy oriented. You are not safer buying an untraceable prepaid or gift card with cash in any way shape or form. You're on a camera walking around Publix. Do you have a cell phone with you, even if it is turned off? It is trivial to combine that kind of information and locate you with the right access, cash isn't saving you. How are you getting cash, is it an ATM? More cameras and your bank number is being used. Maybe your job is paid in cash so it's easier for you, but it isn't "better" as everyone has a footprint. My main concern is seeking being hacked and someone dumping my info as well as not letting these girls know my info, so I protect against that. I do give the girls cash, frankly that's the riskiest part of this entire hobby and the most likely way you'd get identified so I try to leave them no real trace.
More fun: Do you have a Club Publix number, even if you don't use it to buy cards? The amount of analytics those programs generate is terrifying. Did you buy condoms or lube and use the Publix number before? How about flowers or jewelry? Do you have an SO that uses it for household items too? That is the kind of stuff that generates tons of Metadata about you and companies use it for many purposes. They can tell if a woman is pregnant before she knows and if you're fucking around on your wife. Cell companies do the same thing, your traffic patterns and stops are packaged and sold to many companies and gov.
You are not anonymous anymore, you just think you are and most of the steps you take to 'hide are security theater. Hell, this site isn't using an ssl cert and it allows all page indexing as best I can tell. Someone can follow you here and glean a ton of information about you and do it easily.
Peter Johnson
03-05-23, 22:17
You are not safer buying an untraceable prepaid or gift card with cash in any way shape or form. Ok, so you say that paying for the prepaid card with cash is the exact same level of anonymity as paying with a credit card in your name. We will agree to disagree about that.
More fun: Do you have a Club Publix number, even if you don't use it to buy cards? You are going off on a tangent, but yes I do have one. And it is not tied to my real name, phone number, or address. Same with Kroger card. I also don't give any business my phone number unless they absolutely need to have it....because there's usually no good reason to do so, and plenty of downside.
You're on a camera walking around Publix.Yes, with a hat and mask on.
You are not anonymous anymore, I never said I was 100% anonymous at all times. You are saying none of it matters, because no one can have 100% perfect privacy at all times. Again, I disagree.
Some of us take some very easy steps to increase level of privacy, and some of us do not. But to suggest it is impossible to do so is transparently foolish and absurd.
NewAnonymousName
03-06-23, 00:27
Ok, so you say that paying for the prepaid card with cash is the exact same level of anonymity as paying with a credit card in your name. We will agree to disagree about that.
You are going off on a tangent, but yes I do have one. And it is not tied to my real name, phone number, or address. Same with Kroger card. I also don't give any business my phone number unless they absolutely need to have it....because there's usually no good reason to do so, and plenty of downside.
Yes, with a hat and mask on.
I never said I was 100% anonymous at all times. You are saying none of it matters, because no one can have 100% perfect privacy at all times. Again, I disagree.
Some of us take some very easy steps to increase level of privacy, and some of us do not. But to suggest it is impossible to do so is transparently foolish and absurd.I'm with you. Adult friend finder was hacked and many members' names and email addresses were published online for anyone to see. So to register for Seeking, I take the relatively simple steps of buying gift cards, registering them under a fake name and address, and using a private email account that doesn't have my name or nickname in it. That way, if Seeking is ever hacked, the list that gets published online will have the fake name and unidentifiable email address instead of mine.
Could someone break through my privacy protections with subpoenas to Seeking, the store where I buy gift cards, the ATM providers, etc., and then put two and two (and two more) together from the subpoena responses to figure out who I really am? Yes, potentially, with a lot of effort and attention to details. But subpoenas don't go out unless you're being investigated for a crime or in a lawsuit (like a divorce proceeding). I'm not worried about those remote possibilities. I just don't want my name to go public if there's a hack of Seeking's database of members.
PrinceOfFools
03-06-23, 05:51
Ok, so you say that paying for the prepaid card with cash is the exact same level of anonymity as paying with a credit card in your name. We will agree to disagree about that.That's the thing. Neither is reasonably anonymous and it's theater to think it is, but of the activities that go into the hobby it's probably the most difficult to unmask due to protections around financial information so I have less concern about it than other things like phone numbers. If you're at the point of a warrant getting that kind of financial information, you have already fucked up so much that someone is going over your life with a fine-toothed comb with the power to subpoena information and you're doomed. Credit card companies do not get a receipt of what you bought, they get the total cost and location of the transaction. The store you bought the prepaid / gift card at keeps track of inventory and when something was bought. So the store knows something was bought and when it was bought, and if they want to they will find out it was you with their additional information like cameras. I haven't done the prepaid thing for a bit since I've been out of the hobby until recently for a couple years, but I regularly buy gift cards online as friends / family gifts at Christmas / etc to help cover for when I do decide to pick it up again. It's invisible activity, those cards cannot be tracked at all prior to activation so it doesn't matter how you pay for them as they're not tied to you and can't be. At best the vendor can say you bought *a* card, but can't prove it was *the* card. If the card can't be tracked, why does the payment method matter? There's a reason scammers use these for fraud like getting people to purchase them and send them the codes to cover something like supposedly unpaid taxes, it's a federal crime yet it's a constant scam that's never punished because it requires the scammer to fuck up to even start to provide enough information to find them. It's just another regular purchase that will never stand out even if scrutinized, just like buying groceries or gas with a credit card. If you want to use cash that's cool, it's just not doing a lot for you and I enjoy that cashback on my otherwise safe purchase.
You are going off on a tangent, but yes I do have one. And it is not tied to my real name, phone number, or address. Same with Kroger card. I also don't give any business my phone number unless they absolutely need to have it....because there's usually no good reason to do so, and plenty of downside.Not a tangent at all, you brought up buying in a grocery store and privacy so it's relevant. Companies build profiles with this kind of data and consider it extremely valuable. The profiles built for this don't need your real info to eventually figure out enough about you to be identifiable unfortunately. Ever pay with a credit card using those grocery member numbers, even just once, or let someone else use the number like a friend or SO? Just like social media building ghost profiles for real people that aren't on the platform using 3rd party info like friends pictures (using facial rec to match you across pictures) and contact lists, with enough information that 'random info' grocery rewards card can be tied to you. Scary stuff, especially when it's sold to anyone who wants / can afford it.
Yes, with a hat and mask on.https://live.staticflickr.com/3449/4002542760_87e9287678_z.jpg This you?
Google gait analysis and realize how this isn't really effective. Commercial security software from companies like Genetec or Verint includes this now and has a bunch of machine learning running constantly in the background to crunch the data, I see it at work daily. They don't need to see your face or body anyway, your car is in the parking lot and gets picked up by ALPRs in many public locations. Pick up your car near the parking lot with a ALPR, see it on the security footage, see who steps out of the car after it parks. You. Combine that with location data from your phone and you are very easy to track if you have access to the relevant information. You drive by several ALPRs on a daily basis in the ATL metro area and 'burbs probably without realizing it, there's 3 within 2 miles of my house that I've noticed so far. It's far easier to track your car and your phone than you personally and more reliable, gait / facial recognition is good but not perfect and can be fooled or unreliable with bad quality footage. ALPRs pretty much eliminate any semblance of anonymity if you drive your own car, it's ridiculous they exist in the commercial space.
I never said I was 100% anonymous at all times. You are saying none of it matters, because no one can have 100% perfect privacy at all times. Again, I disagree.
Some of us take some very easy steps to increase level of privacy, and some of us do not. But to suggest it is impossible to do so is transparently foolish and absurd.Privacy matters a massive amount and I consider it constantly, most people just don't understand what is actually going on. It's extremely difficult to actually manage it effectively and it's easy to slip up while being overconfident you're 'invisible', especially due to tech you don't even know exists. An example would be DNA analysis using relatives as a reference. People committed crimes with no evidence except DNA left behind 50 years ago and never got DNA logged in a searchable database for any other reason, now their first cousin sends a swab with spit to 23 andMe and the person ends up arrested because companies feed that data straight to the gov. How the fuck do you plan around things like that you don't even know exist? The more corporations sell their information to Gov the worse it's going to get too. Why get a warrant when AT&T will sell your location data to the police and avoid that pesky 4th amendment? Some real fascist stuff where both corps and gov work together to fuck you over currently. Another great example I ran into recently. Go plug your real phone number (or someone you know) into USPhonebook dot com and see what amount of information pops up that is completely irrelevant to the phone number, like where you live and who your relatives are. You certainly didn't give that info to the phone company, they've aggregated a bunch of information from brokers to provide that for free to anyone that types the number in. Companies like corelogic just ingest information about private people and spit it out to anyone who pays.
You can do reasonable things to safeguard your privacy from individuals, but truly hiding from corps or gov without making massive alterations to your lifestyle is very difficult. I accept that some information is captured by others and work on what I think is reasonable and worth spending time on to obfuscate. Like my employer, they have the legal info required to employ me but things like my address, phone number, etc are all not directly tied to me. I use a UPS box for my address (technically easily tied to me, but it hides my physical address from anyone I provide it to which is its purpose. Most people don't realize it's not a physical address since it looks like an Apt #) and they have a google voice number for my personal phone number. I did this after my manager at one job decided to come to my house one day to see why I wasn't in yet. He pulled my personal info from the HR system without permission and did not get in trouble for it when I reported it. My next employer got a PO box and I've used that for other things like shipping internet stuff ever since.
I break it down into 3 categories. People that can learn enough to do me harm if they want to (sugar babies, assholes on the internet, etc), The State which can already find me if given enough reason to do so, and corporations that abuse my information and sell to the other two. You're never hiding from The State if they want you, the best you can do is not provide other people information they can provide The State to help locate you. You can obfuscate a ton of information from corps, but they're pretty good about building a composite of people with 3rd party information that is then resold for profit if they're in that business or gets leaked due to bad actors. This is probably your biggest danger.
For people that could harm me like sugar babies, they're never going to be able to locate things like 'how did I buy my seeking payment method' or 'who owns this phone number that's on a tracphone' or 'track the location of someone using this phone number' as that's beyond them and would require additional information they don't have anyway. They need 'first level' information that implicitly identifies you because that's the information's job, like your drivers license or the name on a credit card. To use 'second level' information, like a VIN / tag number, they need to go through The State or some corporation and usually need reason to do so. There's a 0% chance I'm knocking up one of these girls and I give them no other legit reason to go to big daddy government, so info like my VIN / tag number can't really be used even if they had it. The infamous 'someone at the DMV can look you up' bit is a federal crime (DPPA, was part of the '94 Violent Crime bill) with some nasty penalties attached so no one's doing that for pocket change and access is logged for years afterwards.
SonOfABeach
03-06-23, 13:34
Whenever I click one of the links to a profile, it says that I'm blocked or I blocked them. How do I fix this issue?
2me4Looking2
03-06-23, 16:10
I know it's been said, but still getting frustrated with just how many women are expecting $1 k or more per meet and then get offended when you offer less. High end escorts are cheaper than that and a lot less hassle. This used to just be the occasional GPS, but now it's seems to be the norm. I'm assuming some guys are paying it which seems insane.
Peter Johnson
03-06-23, 16:24
But subpoenas don't go out unless you're being investigated for a crime or in a lawsuit (like a divorce proceeding). I'm not worried about those remote possibilities. I just don't want my name to go public if there's a hack of Seeking's database of members.Yes, of course if the FBI gets you confused with a terrorist and goes after you, with help from the NSA, CIA, etc, then they are going to find you. But that is unlikely and there are still levels of privacy, and it pays not to be too lazy, with protecting yours, in this hobby. I could do a lot more, so I am not an ideal role model, but I try not to be too slack with all of it.
Peter Johnson
03-06-23, 16:26
That's the thing. ..................so no one's doing that for pocket change and access is logged for years afterwards.Ok we don't agree 100%, but for the most part, we do. Thanks for taking the time to write a detailed and well reasoned response. I could actually do a lot more to further protect my privacy. I probably go to greater lengths thann 98% of other people, but that's not saying much, and I could do much more.
I know it's been said, but still getting frustrated with just how many women are expecting $1 k or more per meet and then get offended when you offer less. High end escorts are cheaper than that and a lot less hassle. This used to just be the occasional GPS, but now it's seems to be the norm. I'm assuming some guys are paying it which seems insane.I blame * and the people who send these girls money online without ever meeting. They know they don't have to meet for less than that now. I've still found a few out there willing to take under $5 and unless they're North of 35 or just not pretty they're even getting difficult to get under $3 now. Crazy times.
Member #6704
03-07-23, 01:05
I blame * and the people who send these girls money online without ever meeting. They know they don't have to meet for less than that now. I've still found a few out there willing to take under $5 and unless they're North of 35 or just not pretty they're even getting difficult to get under $3 now. Crazy times.$1 k per meet or even $500 per meet is a lot of money. For the couple of hours they spend! What else I also don't understand is some of the females making even more crazy amount on only fans.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/fired-teaching-job-being-onlyfans-090033910.html
Unfortunately there are men who are clearly paying. Can't this lasting for ever though.
Peter Johnson
03-07-23, 08:09
$1 k per meet or even $500 per meet is a lot of money. For the couple of hours they spend! What else I also don't understand is some of the females making even more crazy amount on only fans.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/fired-teaching-job-being-onlyfans-090033910.html
Unfortunately there are men who are clearly paying. Can't this lasting for ever though.It's supply and demand, and there are a lot of attractive women out there, but there are 3.9 billion horny men on the planet. (Or ok, take out the gay guys and little kids, and you still have over 3 billion dudes). And men generally work hard and earn $, and they spend some of it on porn and adult entertainment. I'm glad only fans wasn't around when I was younger, because would have been tempting, I'm sure.
But yes, the hottest girls can do only fans and not even have to meet anyone in person. So we just are left with ones who are less than smoking hot, or hot ones who really enjoy sex. I paid a girl $500 per meet a couple of times last year, and it was worth it, because she was so my type and an incredible piece of ass. But I can't afford to do that regularly and $1k is just not reasonable for me, under any circumstances. Most of the time, I go for $250 to $300 max. I suppose $1 k is really just equivalent to two meets with the $500 girl, but I just am not going to do it. It's not even up for serious consideration, given my finances.
It depends on how much disposable income you have, and I'm not even wealthy. So there are plenty of guys where $1 k means little to nothing, and they compete with us, for the limited number of extra hot girls.
I know I'm mostly stating the obvious here, but just good to occasionally give myself a reality check, as well.
NewAnonymousName
03-07-23, 11:02
Does anyone have information about MyPleasure1215? Her profile says she's a certified massage therapist, which could be a nice twist.
https://members.seeking.com/member/085fecb7-c9aa-4731-9d53-67748d679baf
I also heard from SmartAngel. Does anyone have experience with her to offer a review?
https://members.seeking.com/member/9ad640c6-dfb7-4925-b1ec-d7b9cd9428d5I read the poor review of SmartAngel, and MyPleasure1215's profile disappeared while we were in the middle of a promising chat. So I'm back to square one.
Can anyone recommend any MILFs in their 30's or 40's who are easy going and don't have unreasonable money expectations?
2me4Looking2
03-07-23, 11:08
I read the poor review of SmartAngel, and MyPleasure1215's profile disappeared while we were in the middle of a promising chat. So I'm back to square one.
Can anyone recommend any MILFs in their 30's or 40's who are easy going and don't have unreasonable money expectations?She is back with a new profile if you are really interested. https://members.seeking.com/member/612dbf65-04e4-4185-8b89-a8ff97b6a3d9.
I chatted with her and she seemed fine other than really only willing to talk about doing a massage, but I never pulled the trigger because that seemed more like a UTR than SB.
GoneForGood97
03-07-23, 11:32
I know it's been said, but still getting frustrated with just how many women are expecting $1 k or more per meet and then get offended when you offer less. High end escorts are cheaper than that and a lot less hassle. This used to just be the occasional GPS, but now it's seems to be the norm. I'm assuming some guys are paying it which seems insane.It's not the norm. Stop talking to wannabe instagram models or the younger than 21 girls, and talk to some girls that are 8's instead of 10's, and you'll find plenty of 200-300 girls.
2me4Looking2
03-07-23, 11:45
It's not the norm. Stop talking to wannabe instagram models or the younger than 21 girls, and talk to some girls that are 8's instead of 10's, and you'll find plenty of 200-300 girls.I disagree. This is coming from girls that are in there 20's-40's that are a 6 at best, but if you want to share some profiles to prove your point, I'm happy to do the research.
NewAnonymousName
03-07-23, 11:56
She is back with a new profile if you are really interested. https://members.seeking.com/member/612dbf65-04e4-4185-8b89-a8ff97b6a3d9.
I chatted with her and she seemed fine other than really only willing to talk about doing a massage, but I never pulled the trigger because that seemed more like a UTR than SB.Thanks. I got the same vibe from her that you did, so I was on the fence about seeing her when her last profile disappeared. I usually assume that women whose profiles disappear and then reappear with a slightly altered name are getting booted from the site for talking PPM or trying to sell pictures. That assumption makes me a little more skeptical of her.
Still looking for decent MILFs if anyone has any recommendations.
SeekingHead
03-07-23, 12:44
It's supply and demand, and there are a lot of attractive women out there, but there are 3.9 billion horny men on the planet. (Or ok, take out the gay guys and little kids, and you still have over 3 billion dudes). And men generally work hard and earn $, and they spend some of it on porn and adult entertainment. I'm glad only fans wasn't around when I was younger, because would have been tempting, I'm sure.
But yes, the hottest girls can do only fans and not even have to meet anyone in person. So we just are left with ones who are less than smoking hot, or hot ones who really enjoy sex. I paid a girl $500 per meet a couple of times last year, and it was worth it, because she was so my type and an incredible piece of ass. But I can't afford to do that regularly and $1k is just not reasonable for me, under any circumstances. Most of the time, I go for $250 to $300 max. I suppose $1 k is really just equivalent to two meets with the $500 girl, but I just am not going to do it. It's not even up for serious consideration, given my finances.
It depends on how much disposable income you have, and I'm not even wealthy. So there are plenty of guys where $1 k means little to nothing, and they compete with us, for the limited number of extra hot girls.
I know I'm mostly stating the obvious here, but just good to occasionally give myself a reality check, as well.Supply & Demand, let's talk about this in regards to the Atlanta metro. To pay those prices you need an income of better than $200 k a year, only 5% of all households in Metro Atlanta make that. This gives you a take home pay of about $12 k a month after taxes, & everything else. I am willing to bet that less than 2% of men in those households have ever sugared dated before. Also of those 2%, more than half of them are married. There are not 50 k men in Atlanta making this amount of money, I'd be willing to say it's less than 500 men total in the metro who can afford $1 k meetups. About 1/2 of those guys are very wealthy & there are other options available for them which we non multi-millionaires don't have access to. Is there anybody on this board who can write a $5 k check to the SPCA, a single guy who writes a check like that is going to have instagram models he can date. Also married men need a income of around $350 k or greater, as the wife & kids get a large portion of that money, plus the wife is going to be asking?'s about where $2-4 k a month is going.
Thanks. I got the same vibe from her that you did, so I was on the fence about seeing her when her last profile disappeared. I usually assume that women whose profiles disappear and then reappear with a slightly altered name are getting booted from the site for talking PPM or trying to sell pictures. That assumption makes me a little more skeptical of her.
Still looking for decent MILFs if anyone has any recommendations.I was in contact with her for awhile. She claimed to be out of state and hit me up when she came back to GA with a sob story and wanted me to buy some pic to help her out. Not my thing, so I ended contact after that.
Peter Johnson
03-07-23, 14:52
I read the poor review of SmartAngel, and MyPleasure1215's profile disappeared while we were in the middle of a promising chat. So I'm back to square one.
Can anyone recommend any MILFs in their 30's or 40's who are easy going and don't have unreasonable money expectations?Missy in Alpharetta qualified, but I don't know if her profile is still active: https://members.seeking.com/member/56dc3038-1020-4570-aaf9-87bc3b0e650d.
I talked to this one a few months ago. She says she is a dancer. Seem to be a cool chick. We had good convo. Says she will take 250. But then she hits me with, she needs a deposit. I don't play that. So I stop communications with her. A couple weeks later she hits me out the blue. Once again good conversation. She likes sports and says she use to play basketball. We never talked about hooking up when she reached back out. Not sure if she is a scam or not. But if you want to try your luck go ahead.
Messaged back and forth with her at the end of last year. Says she works for an insurance company. Seem to be a nice girl. Says she would take 250. But for some reason I just kept thinking I saw her on listcrawler before. So I never pulled the trigger. I am not looking for pro's on Seeking if I can help it. For all I know she may not be. I didn't feeel like doing the research.
Talked to her around Christmas. She seemed to be a cool laid back chick. We had good convos. She sent me some sexy pics. I teased her about being a instagram model. She got offended. Come to find out she is or was an actual professional urban model. She sent me several magazines she was featured in. You can search AmazynBeauty on Facebook to see more about her. I don't believe we ever discussed an allowance. We did set a day to hang out. To my forgetfulness, I set a dentist appointment 3 months ahead for that very day. I was actually getting dressed to go meet her. Then I get a text reminding of my appointment. So I explained the mishap and apologized. Told we can reschedule and I would make it up to her. At this point I felt like she probably was irritated, understandably so. So I just didn't bother to reach back out. Surprisingly she reaches back out to me a month later and sends some risque pics. I try to get her to meet again but she wasn't having it. I was like well why did you contact me again if you don't want to hook up. She says she doesn't want to be made a fool of again. Anyway If you guys want to give her a try go ahead. She is legit, just make sure you can stick to your meet up date.
https://members.seeking.com/member/18634192-c801-4735-8f4f-f898d8f47ee6
Started out OK, moved off site to text and she offered to come for an overnight or few hours if I'd per her Uber which I agreed to. Then she hit me with the, "my cashapp is. ". I said I'll pay for the Uber myself on my account. She insisted I cashapp her the money to get her own Uber. After saying no to that she agrees that she'll still see me if I Uber her, great I think. Then she hits me with the I don't do head. And she wants $5. No bare either. Pass on this one guys unless you just want to hit it. She's real and looks like the pics from what she sent me off site, but that's not worth it to me. I'm pretty flexible with the protection part, but saying no head is a deal breaker.
Said $$.5 to me, nothing bare, no head and no kissing. Seems legit, but I can look a fine women anywhere. . . For less.
https://members.seeking.com/member/18634192-c801-4735-8f4f-f898d8f47ee6
Started out OK, moved off site to text and she offered to come for an overnight or few hours if I'd per her Uber which I agreed to. Then she hit me with the, "my cashapp is. ". I said I'll pay for the Uber myself on my account. She insisted I cashapp her the money to get her own Uber. After saying no to that she agrees that she'll still see me if I Uber her, great I think. Then she hits me with the I don't do head. And she wants $5. No bare either. Pass on this one guys unless you just want to hit it. She's real and looks like the pics from what she sent me off site, but that's not worth it to me. I'm pretty flexible with the protection part, but saying no head is a deal breaker.
NewAnonymousName
03-08-23, 11:32
https://members.seeking.com/member/18634192-c801-4735-8f4f-f898d8f47ee6
Started out OK, moved off site to text and she offered to come for an overnight or few hours if I'd per her Uber which I agreed to. Then she hit me with the, "my cashapp is. ". I said I'll pay for the Uber myself on my account. She insisted I cashapp her the money to get her own Uber. After saying no to that she agrees that she'll still see me if I Uber her, great I think. Then she hits me with the I don't do head. And she wants $5. No bare either. Pass on this one guys unless you just want to hit it. She's real and looks like the pics from what she sent me off site, but that's not worth it to me. I'm pretty flexible with the protection part, but saying no head is a deal breaker.I clicked the link in your post to view her profile. Only 5 minutes later, she messaged me her number and said to text her if I want videos. That's a red flag for a scammer, IMO.
GoneForGood97
03-08-23, 12:57
I disagree. This is coming from girls that are in there 20's-40's that are a 6 at best, but if you want to share some profiles to prove your point, I'm happy to do the research.I don't know what you're doing wrong, but this wasn't my experience at all in Jan when my sub was last active. In the past 6 months I haven't paid more than 300, and nothing makes me think going rates have increased much in the past 40 days since last time I was actively seeking. In the past few months I've had a early 20s hottie for 200 plus hotel, a thicc fit early 30s chick for 100-150 plus hotel who I see every few weeks when our schedules align, and my current regular is a late 20s alt e-girl model that I see for 300 and she hosts. And no, I won't provide info on girls I'm currently seeing, learned that lesson when one of you fucked up a good thing I had with someone year before last.
Granted, I'm pretty quick to eject someone who comes off as too materialistic or cash focused since I'm looking for more than just an escort-with-more-steps, and of course I've spoken with girls suffering from GPS wanting 500-600 or higher. But I cut and move on pretty quickly from those.
I think I've posted reviews of at least 2 girls semi-recently, Isabelle (though I may have just confirmed someone eles's review not posted a full one) and FriendlyPunk, who are both in the 300-200 and fun times, and even banged out Mia, a girl others have posted about having GPS but I was balls deep in for 300 per meet a couple times before Christmas. I'm not a good looking guy, and my "game" is ok at best, but if you're paying more than 400 per meet, you need to reevaluate how you go engage with these girls. Just my 2 cents. You can search through my post history for reviews in this forum for those or others like NattyNat, another early-to-mid 30s girl who asks 400 but can be had for 300 if you don't come off as an asshole or creep. Hell, here's one I wouldn't see because she can't host and has no car, but was dtf for 300 https://members.seeking.com/member/719691b4-0fa9-48e9-abfa-e3b2c18cc031.
GoneForGood97
03-08-23, 16:58
Supply & Demand, let's talk about this in regards to the Atlanta metro. To pay those prices you need an income of better than $200 k a year, only 5% of all households in Metro Atlanta make that. This gives you a take home pay of about $12 k a month after taxes, & everything else. I am willing to bet that less than 2% of men in those households have ever sugared dated before. Also of those 2%, more than half of them are married. There are not 50 k men in Atlanta making this amount of money, I'd be willing to say it's less than 500 men total in the metro who can afford $1 k meetups. About 1/2 of those guys are very wealthy & there are other options available for them which we non multi-millionaires don't have access to. Is there anybody on this board who can write a $5 k check to the SPCA, a single guy who writes a check like that is going to have instagram models he can date. Also married men need a income of around $350 k or greater, as the wife & kids get a large portion of that money, plus the wife is going to be asking?'s about where $2-4 k a month is going.This is exactly correct. Guys don't realize just how much the numbers favor them. There are ALOT more SBs than SDs. And not even "a lot" like a 60-40 split. There are literally hundreds of girls for every 1 "real" SD the site (not counting guys who just browse, or who using the site to try and get nudes).
It turns out, pretty girls are a lot more common than 6 figure incomes. And the guys who make that kind of money are dating the top 1% of the top 1%. So even the 8 and 9's on the site are going to get largely ignored by the true big spenders because they are only going for perfect 10's. Why wouldn't they, if they are willing to spend $1 K per date?
Which means the vast, vast majority of the girls will never get propositioned by those guys. So you're not competing with them, your just competing with 1) guys who treat the girls like their hookers, 2) lazy guys who don't bother to try and connect and just want to get laid and 3) guys with absolutely 0 game. All you have to be is semi decent, willing to have a conversation, and treat them like people, and it's amazing just how much you can outkick your coverage with only a little effort and a very affordable allowance.
JokeKing11
03-08-23, 22:19
Don't have her link but name's AmberM in atlanta / athens.
Scammer. Beware.
BrownSugaTwo
03-09-23, 00:33
I clicked the link in your post to view her profile. Only 5 minutes later, she messaged me her number and said to text her if I want videos. That's a red flag for a scammer, IMO.She did the same with me.
JunkSecond
03-09-23, 09:55
She claims to want a monthly allowance vs ppm but with these girls ghosting after payday I learned to pay weekly. Per usual, ghosted after a couple meets. Made out ok as total investment worked out to under 300 ppm. Physical appearance was lovely with bolt ons. Oral skills average, pussy was ok but not as tight as I was hoping for at 22. She verified birth control and BBFSCIP is possible, YMMV. I had the impression she was always searching for a bigger fish and guessing she found her a simp and moved on. She is back active on the site so likely just cycled again.
Advice for success: Leverage her greed against her. Overpromise, underdeliver and prepare for a ghosting.
https://members.seeking.com/member/74946cc9-bf5e-4322-954e-1dd4128b1926
GoneForGood97
03-09-23, 12:08
No. There is some foolish Tiktok influencer that tells the girls they should be getting 1 k a month. She puts on sugaring skits teaches the girls how to finesse and everything. She had over 1 m views on her skits. And you know this generation takes social media as law.1 K per month is actually reasonable, and I would absolutely see a girl who was good with 1 K a month. Though I wouldn't pay them 1 K up front, I would make sure they understood we'd do a weekly allowance when we meet up that adds up to be 1 K a month until we develop enough trust that I know she's not going to ghost. Which means I'm paying her 250 each week when I see her since I generally do weekly meets with my regular. 250/ week is good, and it's great if she can also host. And a girl who will take 200-250 a week is a lot more likely to be treated by me to dinner dates, day trips somewhere fun, or gifts.
That's another thing some girls struggle to understand. It's actually in their best interest to have a more reasonable allowance because I, and others I bet, are much more likely to take you on weekend trips or buy you that handbag for your birthday if the allowance isn't breaking the bank.
JunkSecond
03-09-23, 13:53
1 K per month is actually reasonable, and I would absolutely see a girl who was good with 1 K a month. Though I wouldn't pay them 1 K up front, I would make sure they understood we'd do a weekly allowance when we meet up that adds up to be 1 K a month until we develop enough trust that I know she's not going to ghost. Which means I'm paying her 250 each week when I see her since I generally do weekly meets with my regular. 250/ week is good, and it's great if she can also host. And a girl who will take 200-250 a week is a lot more likely to be treated by me to dinner dates, day trips somewhere fun, or gifts.
That's another thing some girls struggle to understand. It's actually in their best interest to have a more reasonable allowance because I, and others I bet, are much more likely to take you on weekend trips or buy you that handbag for your birthday if the allowance isn't breaking the bank.I read a good rule of thumb that states 10% of after tax income is disposable. If you run the numbers it's right at 1000/ month for 150 K income. That's probably the sweet spot for a long term arrangement and I have been there several times with two meets per week when SA was new. The last go round for me was a struggle with the majority of girls asking for 2 k and 600-800 ppm. One even had the audacity to tell me I really needed to commit to 2 k as we were perfect for each other after I declined her. After a couple months on the site I had 3 attempts for allowances fail / ghost me, but did score some contacts for 200-400 ppm and one MILF who just wants a nice dinner and a big D when I visit.
When talking these girls off the ledge I ask them if they get 2 k, followed by how long it lasts. Most don't get that amount but know a friend who has a steady arrangement at that level (lies they tell each other). The ones who claim to get that much say it only lasts a month or two then the guy bails. I draw two conclusions.
1 - The instagram influencer lifestyle BS is fake fantasy land drama and the extravagant lies sowed there grow into unrealistic expectations for all girls.
2 - There are some simps out there that also believe this crap, buy into the hype, and are desperate enough to save up cash for a 1-2 month fling.
The most unfortunate truth is that there are probably a gaggle of good solid guys that could afford somewhere in the 500-800 month range, but are immediately dismissed for not "valuing my time. " These chicks would rather suffer fees and interest on a late credit card than cater to a commoner (or two) and live way better than they do now. Entitlement seemingly knows no limits.
TallGuy3000
03-09-23, 21:01
So I just renewed yesterday after about 3-4 months. First of several reviews in my first 24 hours back.
This one messages me first. Said she liked my profile and we might be a match. OK. I'll bite. Pics were OK. We moved to text and she was saying all the right things. She's 18 and in college. Biology major. Right! We traded experiences about our previous arrangements. Again all good. While I didn't propose a number, I did tell her about a previous arrangement with a grad student where I picked up some bills and left her a couple Bens when we got together. Picked up the texts next day (today), and she said "I was thinking 600". Unplayed clueless and just said "600?" She said, yeah, financials we were discussing yesterday. I said if you're saying per meet, that's beyond my capability, and I'd wish you luck. She said thanks!
Where do these gals get such an entitled attitude. Any of you guys want to bring her up right at $600 a pop, have at it.
https://members.seeking.com/messages/inbox/8236d7de-1240-43ef-9d78-4e3708da4d6c
GoneForGood97
03-09-23, 23:56
So I just renewed yesterday after about 3-4 months. First of several reviews in my first 24 hours back.
This one messages me first. Said she liked my profile and we might be a match. OK. I'll bite. Pics were OK. We moved to text and she was saying all the right things. She's 18 and in college. Biology major. Right! We traded experiences about our previous arrangements. Again all good. While I didn't propose a number, I did tell her about a previous arrangement with a grad student where I picked up some bills and left her a couple Bens when we got together. Picked up the texts next day (today), and she said "I was thinking 600". Unplayed clueless and just said "600?" She said, yeah, financials we were discussing yesterday. I said if you're saying per meet, that's beyond my capability, and I'd wish you luck. She said thanks!
Where do these gals get such an entitled attitude. Any of you guys want to bring her up right at $600 a pop, have at it.
https://members.seeking.com/messages/inbox/8236d7de-1240-43ef-9d78-4e3708da4d6cFYI the link is to your message inbox, not your profile, so it's not viewable by us.
I just got a text from a potential that I originally spoke with a few months ago, but I got distracted by my regular and let this one fall off. She texts me her OF link out of the blue. I tell her that's cool but I'm only looking for SBs and if she's interested in being one to let me know. Text back and forth some, and sure enough she's agreed to meet up for 300 PPM and will host.
I really don't get the 500+ conversations ya'll are having. Even if a girl does approach me with that, there's at least a dozen different negotating tactics you can use to get them to come down. I promise any girl that throws out 500 will fuck you for 300. You just have to make her feel comfortable, safe, and make it her idea.
For instance, in the case Tallguy here ran into, I'd ask her "Well, if we do 600 I can only see you once a month. Wouldn't you rather make more than 600 per month?" Of course she'll say yes. "How about we do 1000 a month instead?" "OMG that sounds perfect" "Great, we'll start off doing it weekly and take things from there. ".
Be smart about this guys.
NewAnonymousName
03-10-23, 00:13
So I just renewed yesterday after about 3-4 months. First of several reviews in my first 24 hours back.
This one messages me first. Said she liked my profile and we might be a match. OK. I'll bite. Pics were OK. We moved to text and she was saying all the right things. She's 18 and in college. Biology major. Right! We traded experiences about our previous arrangements. Again all good. While I didn't propose a number, I did tell her about a previous arrangement with a grad student where I picked up some bills and left her a couple Bens when we got together. Picked up the texts next day (today), and she said "I was thinking 600". Unplayed clueless and just said "600?" She said, yeah, financials we were discussing yesterday. I said if you're saying per meet, that's beyond my capability, and I'd wish you luck. She said thanks!
Where do these gals get such an entitled attitude. Any of you guys want to bring her up right at $600 a pop, have at it.
https://members.seeking.com/messages/inbox/8236d7de-1240-43ef-9d78-4e3708da4d6cYour link is to your messages. I searched her name from your post title. Here she is:
https://members.seeking.com/member/43ecc555-8801-468a-ab51-b6d4c52ca70b
FYI the link is to your message inbox, not your profile, so it's not viewable by us.
I just got a text from a potential that I originally spoke with a few months ago, but I got distracted by my regular and let this one fall off. She texts me her OF link out of the blue. I tell her that's cool but I'm only looking for SBs and if she's interested in being one to let me know. Text back and forth some, and sure enough she's agreed to meet up for 300 PPM and will host.
I really don't get the 500+ conversations ya'll are having. Even if a girl does approach me with that, there's at least a dozen different negotating tactics you can use to get them to come down. I promise any girl that throws out 500 will fuck you for 300. You just have to make her feel comfortable, safe, and make it her idea.
For instance, in the case Tallguy here ran into, I'd ask her "Well, if we do 600 I can only see you once a month. Wouldn't you rather make more than 600 per month?" Of course she'll say yes. "How about we do 1000 a month instead?" "OMG that sounds perfect" "Great, we'll start off doing it weekly and take things from there. ".
Be smart about this guys.Good point G4 G. Here's one thing I noticed about dollar amounts and negotiating. Most, not all, women are below average negotiators. Allowances are much lower, for me, when I invest in a meet and greet coffee chat in person compared to when I throw numbers via text. Most women hold a strong line sight unseen but in person the numbers are reasonable.
Now this isn't full proof. I have negotiated perfect allowances in person and then get the "I was thinking" text the next day when those women were behind the safety of text messaging. But my overall point is you're more likely to get the rack rate via text message versus in person when they have already invested time getting ready, battling traffic and have money in their faces. Ripper.
DocHolliday35
03-10-23, 12:38
I read the poor review of SmartAngel, and MyPleasure1215's profile disappeared while we were in the middle of a promising chat. So I'm back to square one.
Can anyone recommend any MILFs in their 30's or 40's who are easy going and don't have unreasonable money expectations?Go see Andies Palace.
Member #6517
03-10-23, 14:30
Your link is to your messages. I searched her name from your post title. Here she is:
https://members.seeking.com/member/43ecc555-8801-468a-ab51-b6d4c52ca70bI messaged her when she first showed up. I don't have profile photos, I share them with highly potential candidates. I explained why in my message, and she was "All good. " That's all. Nothing more. I was all good as well and moved on without further messaging.
$600, LOL, looks like that "All good" was a precursor to what she was potentially going to ask.
SoonerFan72
03-10-23, 14:36
Wants 800 ppm, I was a hard pass. I never verified she was real either.
https://www.sugardaddymeet.com/userProfile?userId=71815287
NewAnonymousName
03-10-23, 16:47
Go see Andies Palace.It took me some searching, but I think you mean the tall woman with fake tits that's a professional escort and has a new seeking profile every week or two. She's not my type. I'm looking more for the sex crazed middle aged mom doing this on the side rather than a hardened escort. I'm also not a big fan of fake tits. But thanks for the recommendation -- her athletic body is very impressive for a woman in her early 40s. If I look at her pictures a couple more times, I might just make an exception on my initial reluctance to see a seasoned escort with fake tits. Haha
BumbaCloth
03-10-23, 21:04
Any info on her? Gives me Pro vibes.
https://members.seeking.com/member/bec41d42-09de-4107-8617-62bd8a9006b2
Peter Johnson
03-11-23, 14:58
Where do these gals get such an entitled attitude.]From a Woke western society, filled with misandry. They are programmed to be like this.
Any info on her? Gives me Pro vibes.
https://members.seeking.com/member/bec41d42-09de-4107-8617-62bd8a9006b2Honestly? I'd stay away. She's a pro, and openly admits to being a SW and previously having a pimp. Was talking to her for a couple of days, and every single possible activity I threw at her was always "yes", and I was getting deliberately crazy weird with the requests. Then she sends me a long ass voice mail in the middle of the night from the ER, and she had me confused with someone else, going on about about "I'm in here for the reason I told you I could only do oral for the next few weeks". Like WTF? Just no.
Your link is to your messages. I searched her name from your post title. Here she is:
https://members.seeking.com/member/43ecc555-8801-468a-ab51-b6d4c52ca70bI've had her for 5 hours at $300, and it took all of 10 minutes to get her to that number.
ReffingMan94
03-12-23, 09:43
I've had her for 5 hours at $300, and it took all of 10 minutes to get her to that number.Thanks for posting, would you say it was great experience for the 300? All access?
Sgt Lurker
03-12-23, 15:59
Do you maintain some kind of anonymity or are you using your real name in this SA field?
NewAnonymousName
03-12-23, 22:24
Do you maintain some kind of anonymity or are you using your real name in this SA field?I've had a couple long term SBs who learned my true name after months of building trust. I never give that information in the short term. Too risky, IMO.
Duke Raoul
03-12-23, 23:48
Communication is going well, but my spidey-sense is tingling. Anybody got the 411?
https://members.seeking.com/member/9516fc37-e05a-477e-8e22-f37b8c5109d6
GoneForGood97
03-13-23, 00:20
Communication is going well, but my spidey-sense is tingling. Anybody got the 411?
https://members.seeking.com/member/9516fc37-e05a-477e-8e22-f37b8c5109d6I've never spoken with her, but nothing about her profile sends up any red flags. Just get a verification pic of her doing an uncommon pose, never send any allowance ahead of time or pay a deposit, and it should be pretty straightforward to smoke her out if she's scamming. You can also always ask them to meet for coffee or a drink before you commit to getting a room or heading to her place.
1) Always get a verification pic.
2) Always pay cash in hand, never deposits, or babysitter money, or gas money, etc. Only sugar for sugar when you meet.
3) If she can't host, don't get the hotel room until you see her in person beforehand. Find a nearby Starbucks to meet her at, or a hotel with a bar. If I feel like the girl is real, then I'll have them meet directly at the hotel, but I don't reserve the room at first. I park there about 10-15 minutes early, tell her to text me when she gets there, then watch the entrance until I see her pull in. Then I'll reserve the room using an app and go check in while she parks.
Peter Johnson
03-13-23, 01:41
, then I'll have them meet directly at the hotel, but I don't reserve the room at first. I park there about 10-15 minutes early, tell her to text me when she gets there, then watch the entrance until I see her pull in. Then I'll reserve the room using an app and go check in while she parks.I won't reserve and book the room until I meet them in person and feel that they are comfortable enough to proceed. You know how flaky many of these girls are. Of course it's a hsssle sometimes if the booking takes a few minutes to go through, but better than losing the $ because the girl suddenly feels guilty or scared or whatever. I haven't had that happen after I met them there at the hotel, in person, but I've had a couple of them drive to the hotel and then just drive away (without them even seeing me).
I've never spoken with her, but nothing about her profile sends up any red flags. Just get a verification pic of her doing an uncommon pose, never send any allowance ahead of time or pay a deposit, and it should be pretty straightforward to smoke her out if she's scamming. You can also always ask them to meet for coffee or a drink before you commit to getting a room or heading to her place.
1) Always get a verification pic.
2) Always pay cash in hand, never deposits, or babysitter money, or gas money, etc. Only sugar for sugar when you meet.
3) If she can't host, don't get the hotel room until you see her in person beforehand. Find a nearby Starbucks to meet her at, or a hotel with a bar. If I feel like the girl is real, then I'll have them meet directly at the hotel, but I don't reserve the room at first. I park there about 10-15 minutes early, tell her to text me when she gets there, then watch the entrance until I see her pull in. Then I'll reserve the room using an app and go check in while she parks.She cute, if she still looks that way LOL.
Since we're on the subject of some of these out of their mind girls. I just talked to this one. She's real. But she asks for $2 k per meet. LOL. I told her was our of her mind considering her age / looks. She said I was out of her tax bracket and she knows her worth. OK good luck!
https://members.seeking.com/member/e4b7063f-50d1-448f-ad95-4e7ef7ed8668
Honestly? I'd stay away. She's a pro, and openly admits to being a SW and previously having a pimp. Was talking to her for a couple of days, and every single possible activity I threw at her was always "yes", and I was getting deliberately crazy weird with the requests. Then she sends me a long ass voice mail in the middle of the night from the ER, and she had me confused with someone else, going on about about "I'm in here for the reason I told you I could only do oral for the next few weeks". Like WTF? Just no.I've been messaging here the last few days and noticed the same thing. She said yes to everything I've asked and I was getting those spidey senses tingling.
I've been messaging here the last few days and noticed the same thing. She said yes to everything I've asked and I was getting those spidey senses tingling.Yeah no joke, checking in on here has saved me from multiple bad situations.
GoneForGood97
03-13-23, 10:59
Since we're on the subject of some of these out of their mind girls. I just talked to this one. She's real. But she asks for $2 k per meet. LOL. I told her was our of her mind considering her age / looks. She said I was out of her tax bracket and she knows her worth. OK good luck!
https://members.seeking.com/member/e4b7063f-50d1-448f-ad95-4e7ef7ed8668"knows her worth" is the tell here. That's how you know she's got plugged into the SB tiktok / twitter influencer scene as that's the exact wording they push to reinforce girls not to settle for "splenda daddies" etc etc.
She's 30 years old. Her worth is sub 300, unless she specializes in some crazy kink that's so rare the people who are into it pay crazy $ for. And she looks boring and vanilla af. Probably won't even let you CIM LOL.
https://members.seeking.com/member/32719979-f9cf-43a3-bfe8-892d129144d5
She's a pro. Straight to text and wanting to meet same day.
"knows her worth" is the tell here. That's how you know she's got plugged into the SB tiktok / twitter influencer scene as that's the exact wording they push to reinforce girls not to settle for "splenda daddies" etc etc.
She's 30 years old. Her worth is sub 300, unless she specializes in some crazy kink that's so rare the people who are into it pay crazy $ for. And she looks boring and vanilla af. Probably won't even let you CIM LOL.Yeah, the 200-225 max and all openings are available with a cover optional.
Rejected $2,000/ mo and not willing to negotiate further.
https://members.seeking.com/messages/inbox/36b537fc-7dd8-4441-babe-76eb8d13b470
WoodstockShane
03-13-23, 17:17
Rejected $2,000/ mo and not willing to negotiate further.
The link you posted was to your messages.
https://members.seeking.com/member/00ada841-b769-4b6f-8040-cb726d1b7ae6
A hood rat with face tattoos? You'd better have an entire cycle of antibiotics before you come in contact with that.
Pretty much the same experience here. She sent a nude after we moved to text and asked for 500 but said she couldn't host. When I said that's too much plus a hotel room she said she may be able to host very occasionally and for a short amount of time as she has family that stops by unannounced from time to time.Taking another one for the team.
She must not be getting much recently. I was able to talk her down to 350+hotel. 400 if she hosts. I won't be going for the 400 unless that tight little body is good as it looks in her nudes.
Meetup is soon, will update here accordingly.
https://members.seeking.com/member/0c728f9a-1f22-48f7-a09d-70a6b0f45010
She is real, but mehhhhh. Had a kid recently, kinda gross tbh I noped out before things got real. Unless a recent mom with all the extra skin and flab is your thing.
2me4Looking2
03-14-23, 08:49
Does anyone have any experience with this one? Doing a search finds nothing, but I know she has been around for a while. I kind of like the hairy pits so I'm intrigued.
https://members.seeking.com/member/3b8f1e2b-8b5e-4294-af53-66ed59a717eb
https://members.seeking.com/member/0c728f9a-1f22-48f7-a09d-70a6b0f45010
She is real, but mehhhhh. Had a kid recently, kinda gross tbh I noped out before things got real. Unless a recent mom with all the extra skin and flab is your thing.Thanks for the intel. She'd been hitting me up on SA, but once we moved to text she wasn't talking much. To confirm, you saw her in person? What's her allowance / ppm request if so?
https://members.seeking.com/member/0c728f9a-1f22-48f7-a09d-70a6b0f45010
She is real, but mehhhhh. Had a kid recently, kinda gross tbh I noped out before things got real. Unless a recent mom with all the extra skin and flab is your thing.She is a pro. She has multiple profiles on seeking and other sites. I have seen her and I agree yuck.
BumbaCloth
03-14-23, 12:02
Does anyone have any experience with this one? Doing a search finds nothing, but I know she has been around for a while. I kind of like the hairy pits so I'm intrigued.
https://members.seeking.com/member/3b8f1e2b-8b5e-4294-af53-66ed59a717ebShe's on SB also wants $500 ppm and dinner dates first.
She's on SB also wants $500 ppm and dinner dates first.How about BK and $150?
2me4Looking2
03-14-23, 14:07
I knew there was a site where women review us and today I was told I've been flagged 3 times as cheap because I want to spend 250 for daytime meets. I can't decide if it's worth changing my number and user name given that I really don't want to spend that much more than that.
I knew there was a site where women review us and today I was told I've been flagged 3 times as cheap because I want to spend 250 for daytime meets. I can't decide if it's worth changing my number and user name given that I really don't want to spend that much more than that.I figured they had something too but never found it checking my number / screen names. How is 250 cheap for a day time meet? These women are crazy. These tiktok videos have these women thinking they're worth 1-2 k per meet.
NewAnonymousName
03-14-23, 15:20
I knew there was a site where women review us and today I was told I've been flagged 3 times as cheap because I want to spend 250 for daytime meets. I can't decide if it's worth changing my number and user name given that I really don't want to spend that much more than that.Have you been able to learn what the site is where the SBs review us?
Gents the body isn't that tight had her for 300 at my home.
Taking another one for the team.
She must not be getting much recently. I was able to talk her down to 350+hotel. 400 if she hosts. I won't be going for the 400 unless that tight little body is good as it looks in her nudes.
Meetup is soon, will update here accordingly.
Seems to be close to my office, interested, but seems pro.
https://members.seeking.com/member/ad88b8a7-f418-43d5-9f02-2f6cb1f32ff8
Saw her last fall. Very sweet girl but very much a talker. She will go on and on if you let her. I personally prefer getting to know the person I'm about to get into bed with so it wasn't a problem. We met up in the morning and she hosted, lives in a nice area. All bare daty, cip 400. I've read she can be negotiated down but it was last minute and I wanted to secure the meet. Had just enough time to go down on her before I had to catch my flight. Will be my go-to whenever I visit.
https://members.seeking.com/member/e6e35e41-97b0-4bdf-9519-b5a06e7ffeab
https://escortbabylon.net/image_list/6785390055
Seems to be close to my office, interested, but seems pro.
https://members.seeking.com/member/ad88b8a7-f418-43d5-9f02-2f6cb1f32ff8
Bigsqueeze
03-15-23, 08:57
https://escortbabylon.net/image_list/6785390055
Seems to be close to my office, interested, but seems pro.
https://members.seeking.com/member/ad88b8a7-f418-43d5-9f02-2f6cb1f32ff8Her Pro name is Slurpy. Banged her in Macon a few months back for 200. Did exactly what I wanted. Solid good time. I'd repeat.
Her Pro name is Slurpy. Banged her in Macon a few months back for 200. Did exactly what I wanted. Solid good time. I'd repeat.She used to stay in Macon and hosted at some of the more decent hotels. Pretty good for the price and what she did. But she's definitely a pro / LC / STG girl too so her volume is a little higher than your average SB on SA.
DudeNextDoor
03-15-23, 11:19
New profile popped up and it's wild.
https://members.seeking.com/member/53975180-ab02-49b8-bd94-8ef36c4e1587
She says it's 5 women who ". Love to party intimately together and just want one special sponsor, a VIP for the luxurious gatherings that get wild and involve pure mdma and a lot of skin to skin contact. " When I told her that sounded fun but it'd probably kill me she asked about just seeing her (the brunette on the right in the blue dress in their profile pic). She looks familiar for some reason but I can't place it. Anyone else talk to them? Anyone brave enough to have a harem?
New profile popped up and it's wild.
https://members.seeking.com/member/53975180-ab02-49b8-bd94-8ef36c4e1587
She says it's 5 women who ". Love to party intimately together and just want one special sponsor, a VIP for the luxurious gatherings that get wild and involve pure mdma and a lot of skin to skin contact. " When I told her that sounded fun but it'd probably kill me she asked about just seeing her (the brunette on the right in the blue dress in their profile pic). She looks familiar for some reason but I can't place it. Anyone else talk to them? Anyone brave enough to have a harem?They each have separate profiles on the site. I met the blonde in the middle for coffee and she came across as *extremely* high maintenance and downright bitchy and scornful, but, she says that she just comes across that why because she's so selective and demanding about who she'll play with. Rather high expectations for being middle aged.
New profile popped up and it's wild.
https://members.seeking.com/member/53975180-ab02-49b8-bd94-8ef36c4e1587
She says it's 5 women who ". Love to party intimately together and just want one special sponsor, a VIP for the luxurious gatherings that get wild and involve pure mdma and a lot of skin to skin contact. " When I told her that sounded fun but it'd probably kill me she asked about just seeing her (the brunette on the right in the blue dress in their profile pic). She looks familiar for some reason but I can't place it. Anyone else talk to them? Anyone brave enough to have a harem?For their age and looks. "Must disable his profile and focus on us" "we have to be his new favorite hobby". No thanks.
For their age and looks. "Must disable his profile and focus on us" "we have to be his new favorite hobby". No thanks.Hard pass with their list of demands.
https://members.seeking.com/member/b9e8234e-4153-4b62-b64a-56992af99378
Any experience with this one?
For their age and looks. "Must disable his profile and focus on us" "we have to be his new favorite hobby". No thanks.I believe the lady that created this profile has already been discussed in a previous post. I messaged her and we went to text quickly. Without asking, she sent a pic and then a video of her stripping, telling me she was getting tipsy. Then her ask was 500 per meet with at least 3 meets a month. And told me how she deserves a spa day. I moved on. Can get someone half that age for less.
SalvatoreIttup
03-15-23, 16:01
For their age and looks. "Must disable his profile and focus on us" "we have to be his new favorite hobby". No thanks.Met up with the one all the way to the right once a few years ago, and she is decent-looking, but pretty delusional when it comes to her requests. She was in a sexless marriage, and after having a conversation with her, I could tell why somebody would dread living with her, let alone being intimate with her. Common sense says that old women can't be as demanding as 20 year-olds, but common sense sure ain't common!!
BrownSugaTwo
03-15-23, 19:52
I was going to ask if the one all the way on the left was Venus / Glasshalffull (the MILF with the workout body who has been reviewed a number of times) because it kind of looks like her. But, it seems she passed away:
https://www.westcobbfuneralhome.com/obituaries/Venus-Spivey/#TributeWall.
I know she had at least one guy she saw regularly, so I'm wondering if anyone here can confirm the above. I was hoping to see her more.
New profile popped up and it's wild.
https://members.seeking.com/member/53975180-ab02-49b8-bd94-8ef36c4e1587
She says it's 5 women who ". Love to party intimately together and just want one special sponsor, a VIP for the luxurious gatherings that get wild and involve pure mdma and a lot of skin to skin contact. " When I told her that sounded fun but it'd probably kill me she asked about just seeing her (the brunette on the right in the blue dress in their profile pic). She looks familiar for some reason but I can't place it. Anyone else talk to them? Anyone brave enough to have a harem?
I was going to ask if the one all the way on the left was Venus / Glasshalffull (the MILF with the workout body who has been reviewed a number of times) because it kind of looks like her. But, it seems she passed away:
https://www.westcobbfuneralhome.com/obituaries/Venus-Spivey/#TributeWall.
I know she had at least one guy she saw regularly, so I'm wondering if anyone here can confirm the above. I was hoping to see her more.Yes, that's Glasshalffull and thanks for posting! Wow, life is so short. I saw her last year and tried to reconnect with her again in February of this year but got no response. I'm saddened to hear of her passing.
I was going to ask if the one all the way on the left was Venus / Glasshalffull (the MILF with the workout body who has been reviewed a number of times) because it kind of looks like her. But, it seems she passed away:
https://www.westcobbfuneralhome.com/obituaries/Venus-Spivey/#TributeWall.
I know she had at least one guy she saw regularly, so I'm wondering if anyone here can confirm the above. I was hoping to see her more.Saw her few times, what happened?
BrownSugaTwo
03-15-23, 21:33
Saw her few times, what happened?Unsure. I was trying to track down some info. I know she was constantly getting spots removed, and clearly, she smoked. Maybe cancer? I had another 50-ish SB, smoker pass away of that a few years ago.
NewAnonymousName
03-15-23, 22:08
I was going to ask if the one all the way on the left was Venus / Glasshalffull (the MILF with the workout body who has been reviewed a number of times) because it kind of looks like her. But, it seems she passed away:
https://www.westcobbfuneralhome.com/obituaries/Venus-Spivey/#TributeWall.
I know she had at least one guy she saw regularly, so I'm wondering if anyone here can confirm the above. I was hoping to see her more.That's sad. She wasn't very old at only 51 per the obituary. I never saw her because the plastic surgery look isn't my thing. But she had great reviews as a cool, no drama, fun woman. Life is short. RIP.
BrownSugaTwo
03-16-23, 01:30
I'm pretty sure this one is a pro and very much run through. She's had multiple profiles, in the past. Can someone here confirm my suspicions?
https://members.seeking.com/member/e48ab37d-cfa2-4417-b105-3fbd07ec0aba
Communication is going well, but my spidey-sense is tingling. Anybody got the 411?
https://members.seeking.com/member/9516fc37-e05a-477e-8e22-f37b8c5109d6She is real and legit. Cannot recall the damage. Fun lady though.
WoodstockShane
03-16-23, 11:40
They each have separate profiles on the site. I met the blonde in the middle for coffee and she came across as *extremely* high maintenance and downright bitchy and scornful, but, she says that she just comes across that why because she's so selective and demanding about who she'll play with. Rather high expectations for being middle aged.I also spoke to the blonde in the middle. Didn't meet her, but we were texting for a while. She also came on to me rather bitchy, and demanding. I think she even discussed the fact that she needed a man with a very short refractory period. Well, I'm not 19 any more sweetheart. I can find women like these at a bar any weekend on Canton Street.
https://members.seeking.com/member/d096b3bb-c49f-441b-a921-3bf0f59a9e98
TylerDurden07
03-16-23, 15:06
https://members.seeking.com/member/8fe2467c-e574-4c3a-8acd-e9a1ef64b9b3
Anyone had any dealings with this one? Exchanged a lot of really good texts with her & received many hot pics. Really sexy body. She was agreeable to the date I proposed to get together & all was ready except for ONE little thing--proof of my "commitment. " Wanted a $100 advance.
I admit I'm really liking this girl otherwise. But unless one of why'all tells me you've seen her before & was happy with the experience, then it's the usual no-deposit policy for me.
GoneForGood97
03-16-23, 16:01
https://members.seeking.com/member/8fe2467c-e574-4c3a-8acd-e9a1ef64b9b3
Anyone had any dealings with this one? Exchanged a lot of really good texts with her & received many hot pics. Really sexy body. She was agreeable to the date I proposed to get together & all was ready except for ONE little thing--proof of my "commitment. " Wanted a $100 advance.
I admit I'm really liking this girl otherwise. But unless one of why'all tells me you've seen her before & was happy with the experience, then it's the usual no-deposit policy for me.I assume you got a verification pic of her doing an uncommon pose so you know she's at least really the girl your texting and not some Romanian dude pulling scams.
Tell her you understand but that you only deal in cash, and don't even have any digital payment apps on your phone for your peace of mind. If that's not enough, offer to sweeten the pot and tell her you'll pay some extra allowance for the convenience of forgoing the deposit. If she's still hard nosed about it and you still believe she's real, you might could try a bit of a sob story. "I'm sorry babe I'm just not comfortable doing that. I was scammed a few years ago and the thought of it happening again just makes me too uncomfortable. Please respect my boundaries in this. " I. E. Using some of the language girls her age have utilized in order to justify their own limits.
If you're absolutely smitten by her, you could always try Venmo (and only Venmo) and send the amount under the "Pay for goods and services" category instead of "Friends and family". Venmo will charge a small fee, like 5% or something, BUT the transaction is "protected" I. E. You can request a refund. Label the service something mundane like "Dog sitting" or "Babysitting" or something else that sounds like a service you might pay for.
You could try just doing it that way and not telling her, she may not notice she doesn't have immediate access to the funds. If / when she ghosts, just put a refund request in with Venmo. Or you may want to mention it upfront you'll be sending it as a "goods and service" transaction for your peace of mind so she knows she won't have direct access to it immediately.
If you request a refund you'll still be out the money for a few weeks while it goes through their process. This isn't 100% guaranteed you'll get it refunded, but generally they don't put up too much of a fight if you sent it through the "goods and services" transaction type since the entire purpose of that type is to provide peace of mind between buyers and sellers.
Of course don't under any circumstances imply it's for pay2play or sex or anything else illegal.
My suggestion is NOT to waste time with someone who won't budge on that, but if you're hellbent on seeing her and willing to go through the hassle that's the only way I would entertain it, but almost certainly not worth the effort.
Member #6718
03-16-23, 17:50
They each have separate profiles on the site. I met the blonde in the middle for coffee and she came across as *extremely* high maintenance and downright bitchy and scornful, but, she says that she just comes across that why because she's so selective and demanding about who she'll play with. Rather high expectations for being middle aged.They are all fugly and middle aged. This is about sugar BABIES. I don't need to pay 40 something hags for sex, I can find that on bumble / hinge / tinder all day. I pity any guy that pays any of these old hags a dime.
They each have separate profiles on the site. I met the blonde in the middle for coffee and she came across as *extremely* high maintenance and downright bitchy and scornful, but, she says that she just comes across that why because she's so selective and demanding about who she'll play with. Rather high expectations for being middle aged.Yep, these old hens are going to have to reset their expectations of what being a "middle aged" SB is all about. I would not pay a nickel to see any of 'em.
She's real and been reviewed positively here in the past. I negotiated her to around 300-350 PPM, but we could never get schedules aligned.She is kinda slow on responding to texts, but worth it when you can get to her place. All I can say is she will suck and fuck you dry until you have a hard time walking down the stairs from her apartment. Bonus that she is a natural red head.
NewAnonymousName
03-16-23, 20:38
https://members.seeking.com/member/8fe2467c-e574-4c3a-8acd-e9a1ef64b9b3
Anyone had any dealings with this one? Exchanged a lot of really good texts with her & received many hot pics. Really sexy body. She was agreeable to the date I proposed to get together & all was ready except for ONE little thing--proof of my "commitment. " Wanted a $100 advance.
I admit I'm really liking this girl otherwise. But unless one of why'all tells me you've seen her before & was happy with the experience, then it's the usual no-deposit policy for me.It's a scam. Period. Never send an advance. Ever.
Saw her last fall. Very sweet girl but very much a talker. She will go on and on if you let her. I personally prefer getting to know the person I'm about to get into bed with so it wasn't a problem. We met up in the morning and she hosted, lives in a nice area. All bare daty, cip 400. I've read she can be negotiated down but it was last minute and I wanted to secure the meet. Had just enough time to go down on her before I had to catch my flight. Will be my go-to whenever I visit.
https://members.seeking.com/member/e6e35e41-97b0-4bdf-9519-b5a06e7ffeabGuess she went inactive? Man was hoping I can get in touch with her.
I hit her up. She offered her digits without request. Not overly aggressive with the text. Just "wyd" type stuff. Negotiating terms was quick. 400 to 200 quick and easy. Gave her the addy and 30 minutes later was at the door. No vibe or connection. Business like and not rushed; but she wasn't trying to stay longer than the bare minimum. Bbj was short and had a lot to be desired. Score of 3. Only because it started good and then she just stopped. She rode CG for a brief moment and claimed she was tired. I was digging the view. If you like the short thin type; she's a looker. Then doggie to lazy doggy and CIP. She was polite, but out the door within 5 minutes of popping. LOL Not a horror story just not much better than a LC girl.
Glhf.
https://members.seeking.com/member/32719979-f9cf-43a3-bfe8-892d129144d5
She's a pro. Straight to text and wanting to meet same day.
Guess she went inactive? Man was hoping I can get in touch with her.She is active, I was just talking with her recently. Have a meetup scheduled.
SeekingHead
03-17-23, 18:16
Yep, these old hens are going to have to reset their expectations of what being a "middle aged" SB is all about. I would not pay a nickel to see any of 'em.About 7 beers & a couple of shots before I would start thinking about hitting that.
TylerDurden07
03-17-23, 21:52
I assume you got a verification pic of her doing an uncommon pose so you know she's at least really the girl your texting and not some Romanian dude pulling scams.
Tell her you understand but that you only deal in cash, and don't even have any digital payment apps on your phone for your peace of mind. If that's not enough, offer to sweeten the pot and tell her you'll pay some extra allowance for the convenience of forgoing the deposit. If she's still hard nosed about it and you still believe she's real, you might could try a bit of a sob story. "I'm sorry babe I'm just not comfortable doing that. I was scammed a few years ago and the thought of it happening again just makes me too uncomfortable. Please respect my boundaries in this. " I. E. Using some of the language girls her age have utilized in order to justify their own limits.
If you're absolutely smitten by her, you could always try Venmo (and only Venmo) and send the amount under the "Pay for goods and services" category instead of "Friends and family". Venmo will charge a small fee, like 5% or something, BUT the transaction is "protected" I. E. You can request a refund. Label the service something mundane like "Dog sitting" or "Babysitting" or something else that sounds like a service you might pay for.
You could try just doing it that way and not telling her, she may not notice she doesn't have immediate access to the funds. If / when she ghosts, just put a refund request in with Venmo. Or you may want to mention it upfront you'll be sending it as a "goods and service" transaction for your peace of mind so she knows she won't have direct access to it immediately.
If you request a refund you'll still be out the money for a few weeks while it goes through their process. This isn't 100% guaranteed you'll get it refunded, but generally they don't put up too much of a fight if you sent it through the "goods and services" transaction type since the entire purpose of that type is to provide peace of mind between buyers and sellers.
Of course don't under any circumstances imply it's for pay2play or sex or anything else illegal.
My suggestion is NOT to waste time with someone who won't budge on that, but if you're hellbent on seeing her and willing to go through the hassle that's the only way I would entertain it, but almost certainly not worth the effort.I'll try that, & see what happens.
She is active, I was just talking with her recently. Have a meetup scheduled.Weird, I am getting "Profile Not Available" message. Maybe because I just created an account dunno.
NewAnonymousName
03-18-23, 00:48
Weird, I am getting "Profile Not Available" message. Maybe because I just created an account dunno.Are we talking about the curvy 21 year old Redhead? If so, she has a new profile:
https://members.seeking.com/member/604d696e-3c89-4917-84d8-ed61fae9160b
Are we talking about the curvy 21 year old Redhead? If so, she has a new profile:
https://members.seeking.com/member/604d696e-3c89-4917-84d8-ed61fae9160b
Yeah I don't know, Still the same thing. Any link I click on this forum all say this lol. I don't know what is going on.
Also, BTW, I got premium membership for $44 for 90 days. Did they just lowered their prices? It was more then $100/ month. I don't know what is going.
NewAnonymousName
03-18-23, 02:32
Yeah I don't know, Still the same thing. Any link I click on this forum all say this lol. I don't know what is going on.
Also, BTW, I got premium membership for $44 for 90 days. Did they just lowered their prices? It was more then $100/ month. I don't know what is going.I can't say why the link in my post isn't working for you. It still works for me. Search BellaFantastic for her new profile.
I can't say why the link in my post isn't working for you. It still works for me. Search BellaFantastic for her new profile.I'm talking with her now. Searched the forum and couldn't find reviews. Can anyone point me in the right direction?
Totalcsllc
03-18-23, 08:53
Yeah I don't know, Still the same thing. Any link I click on this forum all say this lol. I don't know what is going on.
Also, BTW, I got premium membership for $44 for 90 days. Did they just lowered their prices? It was more then $100/ month. I don't know what is going.You choose the wrong option. You choose dating instead of the sugar baby option. Same thing happened to me.
You choose the wrong option. You choose dating instead of the sugar baby option. Same thing happened to me.Bah fuck LOL no wonder haha.
I'm talking with her now. Searched the forum and couldn't find reviews. Can anyone point me in the right direction?https://members.seeking.com/member/604d696e-3c89-4917-84d8-ed61fae9160b
NapataJohn
03-18-23, 20:13
I knew there was a site where women review us and today I was told I've been flagged 3 times as cheap because I want to spend 250 for daytime meets. I can't decide if it's worth changing my number and user name given that I really don't want to spend that much more than that.This one? https://www.reddit.com/r/SugarBABYonlyforum/.
Peter Johnson
03-18-23, 21:45
I knew there was a site where women review us and today I was told I've been flagged 3 times as cheap because I want to spend 250 for daytime meets. I can't decide if it's worth changing my number and user name given that I really don't want to spend that much more than that.I still don't know if there is a forum like that. I googled it and nothing comes up, and also no one here has ever posted a link to an Atlanta forum for SBs, similar to this one, that we use.
Yay For Me
03-19-23, 07:11
I still don't know if there is a forum like that. I googled it and nothing comes up, and also no one here has ever posted a link to an Atlanta forum for SBs, similar to this one, that we use.
https://saafe.info/main/index.php
I still don't know if there is a forum like that. I googled it and nothing comes up, and also no one here has ever posted a link to an Atlanta forum for SBs, similar to this one, that we use.I remember seeing some site like this that was based on phone number (not SA profile name) some time back. I think it was geared toward escorts keeping tabs on specific johns, but maybe usage has expanded into the sugar scene. Nothing came up in a search on my number at the time so I didn't make note of it.
Maybe someone else knows what the site is?
NewAnonymousName
03-19-23, 10:33
This one? https://www.reddit.com/r/SugarBABYonlyforum/.Reading some threads on this Reddit was eye opening. Those hos have insane expectations. There are even numerous comments about how to get a civilian date to agree to pay all living expenses by the third date and before any sex.
SeekingHead
03-19-23, 10:43
I remember seeing some site like this that was based on phone number (not SA profile name) some time back. I think it was geared toward escorts keeping tabs on specific johns, but maybe usage has expanded into the sugar scene. Nothing came up in a search on my number at the time so I didn't make note of it.
Maybe someone else knows what the site is?Very close kept Hoe secret, I've tried to get a couple of girls to give me the 411 on it & both blew me off while acknowledging the site.
https://members.seeking.com/member/604d696e-3c89-4917-84d8-ed61fae9160bThanks but I was asking for reviews. Does anyone have any experience with this one? I swear someone posted about her recently.
SeekingHead
03-19-23, 10:47
Reading some threads on this Reddit was eye opening. Those hos have insane expectations. There are even numerous comments about how to get a civilian date to agree to pay all living expenses by the third date and before any sex.A large crossover between posters on https://old.reddit.com/r/SexWorkersOnly/ & the sugarbaby subreddit. Quite a few posters on the sugarbaby subreddit are straight up hoes, where they are talking about taking multiple dicks a day while living in an extended stay hotel & then offering advice in the sugarbaby subreddit. If your doing quick visits out of a notel, then your not a sugarbaby.
Member #6718
03-19-23, 10:52
Very close kept Hoe secret, I've tried to get a couple of girls to give me the 411 on it & both blew me off while acknowledging the site.It's an app they use call MrNumber.
NewAnonymousName
03-19-23, 11:12
A large crossover between posters on https://old.reddit.com/r/SexWorkersOnly/ & the sugarbaby subreddit. Quite a few posters on the sugarbaby subreddit are straight up hoes, where they are talking about taking multiple dicks a day while living in an extended stay hotel & then offering advice in the sugarbaby subreddit. If your doing quick visits out of a notel, then your not a sugarbaby.It's really interesting how the SBs on the Reddit try to rationalize and twist their brains into pretzels to believe that they aren't prostitutes. They talk about how insulted they are by PPM offers because they aren't hos. But then they openly talk about having sex with a SD only after he has started paying a set allowance negotiated up front. I can see how a woman could think of herself as not being a prostitute if she never enters into a deal for a set amount of money and instead is looking for her SD to be generous with shopping, trips, and the like. But a set allowance negotiated in advance and required as a condition to having sex is the same as a PPM for sex -- both are pay to play. They are straight up prostitutes.
NapataJohn
03-19-23, 12:11
Reading some threads on this Reddit was eye opening. Those hos have insane expectations. There are even numerous comments about how to get a civilian date to agree to pay all living expenses by the third date and before any sex.This is crazy love https://www.reddit.com/r/SugarBABYonlyforum/comments/11tep4y/sd_wants_to_buy_me_a_home_in_america_to_move_to_i/.
NapataJohn
03-19-23, 12:27
Very close kept Hoe secret, I've tried to get a couple of girls to give me the 411 on it & both blew me off while acknowledging the site. the other board dot com
Thanks but I was asking for reviews. Does anyone have any experience with this one? I swear someone posted about her recently.I have seen her multiple times at her apartment. She is worth a visit, will do anything but anal. Loves to give head and has a great DT. All bare.
She is just somewhat inconsistent with responding to texts. Just be patient and she will respond.
https://members.seeking.com/member/e98fd542-6e6c-41d6-b4c2-027b1a72627e
Straight to text. Quoted 300 MnG fee and 400 play time. I said I don't do MnG fees and they replied "Nope". Wished them well and moved on. In retrospect I may have been able to clarify that I would pay 700 total still, but I don't really care.
https://members.seeking.com/member/e98fd542-6e6c-41d6-b4c2-027b1a72627e
Straight to text. Quoted 300 MnG fee and 400 play time. I said I don't do MnG fees and they replied "Nope". Wished them well and moved on. In retrospect I may have been able to clarify that I would pay 700 total still, but I don't really care.I wonder if anyone has ever paid their MnG fee, and actually got an actual date with play time afterwards.
HoWhisperer
03-20-23, 19:09
https://members.seeking.com/member/e98fd542-6e6c-41d6-b4c2-027b1a72627e Straight to text. Quoted 300 MnG fee and 400 play time. I said I don't do MnG fees and they replied "Nope". Wished them well and moved on. In retrospect I may have been able to clarify that I would pay 700 total still, but I don't really care.
I wonder if anyone has ever paid their MnG fee, and actually got an actual date with play time afterwards.I searched the name leighandjaid and found the posts below. Looks to me like a couple of young girls looking to play the players. . . :
StayActive (posted about them (post #10665) Seems like they are charging for m&g and then ghosting according to his post.
Does anyone have experience with these two? They pop up on the site from time to time but answer messages sporadically. https://members.seeking.com/member/e98fd542-6e6c-41d6-b4c2-027b1a72627e
They want $300 for m&g. https://members.seeking.com/member/e98fd542-6e6c-41d6-b4c2-027b1a72627e They are real and it appears they are just in it make money only based on m&g. And move on. Just wondering if anyone had success beyond?
Sgt Lurker
03-20-23, 20:22
I am curious as to which level of membership you who are successful at this are operating at. There is 30% sale right now that ends Tuesday midnight.
I am curious as to which level of membership you who are successful at this are operating at. There is 30% sale right now that ends Tuesday midnight.No real reason to go beyond Premium. You can successfully get your dick wet weekly without whatever "Diamond" gives you.
Met this one up at a bar, took her back to room and she robbed me. And bounced with no shoes. Got me good.
https://members.seeking.com/member/e7df0dad-e07d-4807-93dc-7a4e9417a024
Looking to transition from Eros, LC and Strippers to SA. I don't like listcrawler because a majority of chicks have bad hygiene, drug problems, pimps, catfishes, and bad attitudes. Eros isn't bad but the women are robotic a majority of the times and I sense many don't like what they do. I have a great rotation of strippers I see otc, but it can be a lot of work at times to get an outside of the club thing going.
Any do's or don't s before I start?
DudeNextDoor
03-21-23, 07:26
I've had the same experience here as everyone else. They won't budge from the very high m&g fee. I've even tried to offer smaller fee w / higher ppm with no luck. I've privated messaged with a senior member here who says he use to see the tall blonde for a while and thought it was possible to get them down off the m&g fee but I've yet to crack the code.
I searched the name leighandjaid and found the posts below. Looks to me like a couple of young girls looking to play the players. . . :
Looking to transition from Eros, LC and Strippers to SA. I don't like listcrawler because a majority of chicks have bad hygiene, drug problems, pimps, catfishes, and bad attitudes. Eros isn't bad but the women are robotic a majority of the times and I sense many don't like what they do. I have a great rotation of strippers I see otc, but it can be a lot of work at times to get an outside of the club thing going.
Any do's or don't s before I start?I tried SA. First of all, it takes a lot of effort to meet someone. Most girls are just scammers. I met few and things went well, but takes a lot of time and luck. I haven't used it for over 2 years now. I had a relationship that lasted 4 months, but it's rare. Don't be too generous, then they will assume that you're a sucker. Never, ever give your personal information. Make up a story about yourself. Always meet in public places and then go to private places. Don't believe anything they say because it's 100% bs.
Airmantroy
03-21-23, 10:07
Met this one up at a bar, took her back to room and she robbed me. And bounced with no shoes. Got me good.
https://members.seeking.com/member/e7df0dad-e07d-4807-93dc-7a4e9417a024So was she alone or had someone waiting for her? Weapon? Stupid stuff happens to us all, but some details would be nice.
Met this one up at a bar, took her back to room and she robbed me. And bounced with no shoes. Got me good.
https://members.seeking.com/member/e7df0dad-e07d-4807-93dc-7a4e9417a024Things like this aren't unusual. First, I hope you're safe and nothing happened to you. Something like that also happened to me. Not with SB or SA girl, but a massage girl. The girl told me on the phone to give money to this dude and he disappeared. Cost of doing business. My advice is to let it go. Hopefully she didn't steal a lot of valuables. I always hide my valuables in the car when meeting in a hotel.
TylerDurden07
03-21-23, 13:23
Met this one up at a bar, took her back to room and she robbed me. And bounced with no shoes. Got me good.
https://members.seeking.com/member/e7df0dad-e07d-4807-93dc-7a4e9417a024First, I'm sorry this happened to you &, as others said, I'm glad you're okay.
Also, thanks for reporting this to the Board. I was talking hot & heavy with this one this past weekend & she was really pushy about meeting. And her pics made me really want to. But I was out of town so our schedules didn't mesh.
Wow, it could've been me.
Chatted with this one and was looking for $6 ppm and is not able to host.
A bit out of my budget.
https://members.seeking.com/member/407db62f-8ba9-467c-93f3-e403608b2936
NewAnonymousName
03-21-23, 16:28
Met this one up at a bar, took her back to room and she robbed me. And bounced with no shoes. Got me good.
https://members.seeking.com/member/e7df0dad-e07d-4807-93dc-7a4e9417a024How did she rob you? Gun in her purse? It was her room and her pimp was waiting for you (and you were the one who ran off with no shoes)? She received or grabbed the cash and ran out with it (but left without her shoes)?
This was your first post ever. Details are lacking. It's at least theoretically possible that this is a revenge post because you got rejected.
TooHotForYou
03-21-23, 17:27
Met this one up at a bar, took her back to room and she robbed me. And bounced with no shoes. Got me good.
https://members.seeking.com/member/e7df0dad-e07d-4807-93dc-7a4e9417a024What happened? See she hasn't been on that long.
How did she rob you? Gun in her purse? It was her room and her pimp was waiting for you (and you were the one who ran off with no shoes)? She received or grabbed the cash and ran out with it (but left without her shoes)?
This was your first post ever. Details are lacking. It's at least theoretically possible that this is a revenge post because you got rejected.You bring up a good point.
I tried SA. First of all, it takes a lot of effort to meet someone. Most girls are just scammers. I met few and things went well, but takes a lot of time and luck. I haven't used it for over 2 years now. I had a relationship that lasted 4 months, but it's rare. Don't be too generous, then they will assume that you're a sucker. Never, ever give your personal information. Make up a story about yourself. Always meet in public places and then go to private places. Don't believe anything they say because it's 100% bs.Safety is key here guys. These girls don't need to know anything about your life it won't gain you much in the long run. I had a arrangement last more then a year and she knew very little about me just what type of car I drove. Out of that arrangement I fk her and her mom on the side. The mom v was much better. The daughter was better at sukn dik. And yes they all lie. It's part of the game.
Member #6517
03-22-23, 11:36
Chatted with this one and was looking for $6 ppm and is not able to host.
A bit out of my budget.
https://members.seeking.com/member/407db62f-8ba9-467c-93f3-e403608b2936I met her once for m&g. She was all dolled up and looking better than her pics on SA. Couldn't discuss the details because this one guy decided to sit next to us in an empty cafe. After m&g, she didn't reply at all. She probably expected me to show up with better outfit to a cafe date crap early in the morning LOL. I was prepared to go over my budget just to pound her hard.
If you can spare $6, she might be fun lay but she seems to be looking for a high $$$ ride.
SoonerFan72
03-22-23, 15:58
Scammer, pic / vid seller.
https://members.seeking.com/member/63d5702d-06d5-4823-98e0-c05298ffa677
BumbaCloth
03-22-23, 16:35
Any info on her?
https://members.seeking.com/member/8fe2467c-e574-4c3a-8acd-e9a1ef64b9b3
So was she alone or had someone waiting for her? Weapon? Stupid stuff happens to us all, but some details would be nice.We had a good time. She's kissing and starts with a BJ. Asked for allowance and I gave it to her and then she was like wash up so I went into the bathroom to wash up, she must've hit my wallet then. Then I get into the bed, she now goes to the bathroom and then left the room. By the time I got dressed she was out. She took my cash, at least she left all my other shit. Def I let it go but damn I never let anything like that happen to me before.
That's the best advice I can think of. Establish goals and boundaries so you know when to say NO.
I've used SA twice in the past four years. I focus on 25-40 single moms and have mostly positive experiences. I live alone, so I'm not as concerned about anonymity as many of you. After sifting through numerous potentials, I set up a m / g with a 28 why / o single mom. We clicked and she spent her weekends at my place for the next year. She never asked for anything specific so I fixed problems, paid some overdue utility bills, fronted her the deposit to move to a better home and replaced her car after she totaled it.
The second time out I sampled half a dozen potentials and settled on a 42 why / o single mom. We've been together two and a half years. Same arrangement, fix problems. I've avoided the scams and never been threatened.
Read and read and read SA forums in cities within 100 miles of the place you plan to sugar to find out what the bowl is like in your area, especially the scams. Anything that sounds too good to be true is probably a scam. Never argue with an SB, there is too much spiteful reporting going on. Just block and move on.
Looking to transition from Eros, LC and Strippers to SA. I don't like listcrawler because a majority of chicks have bad hygiene, drug problems, pimps, catfishes, and bad attitudes. Eros isn't bad but the women are robotic a majority of the times and I sense many don't like what they do. I have a great rotation of strippers I see otc, but it can be a lot of work at times to get an outside of the club thing going.
Any do's or don't s before I start?
You didn't mention, was the thief the same girl in the photo? It takes a minute, but post a screenshot of the profile photo, especially when it's more than just a scam. These chicks change profile names like snake skins, but often use the same photos. This helps everyone track them from one alias to another.
Met this one up at a bar, took her back to room and she robbed me. And bounced with no shoes. Got me good.
https://members.seeking.com/member/e7df0dad-e07d-4807-93dc-7a4e9417a024
NewAnonymousName
03-23-23, 08:54
We had a good time. She's kissing and starts with a BJ. Asked for allowance and I gave it to her and then she was like wash up so I went into the bathroom to wash up, she must've hit my wallet then. Then I get into the bed, she now goes to the bathroom and then left the room. By the time I got dressed she was out. She took my cash, at least she left all my other shit. Def I let it go but damn I never let anything like that happen to me before.That's lucky that she didn't just grab the whole wallet. The grab and go while you're in the bathroom move happens a lot in Vegas with casino girls. Your post is a good reminder to all of us to never leave your wallet unattended around a SB, especially those of you with privacy concerns. Nothing good can come from a thief having your ID.
You didn't mention, was the thief the same girl in the photo? It takes a minute, but post a screenshot of the profile photo, especially when it's more than just a scam. These chicks change profile names like snake skins, but often use the same photos. This helps everyone track them from one alias to another.Damn dude, this girl is hot. If someone seems too good to be true, then she probably is.
Most important thing is that you're healthy and safe. I always hide my wallet under the mattress or just put it in my car. You can never trust these girls. As someone else mentioned, casino girls in Vegas use this trick. I guess she is one of them because this girl looks like a pro. She looks like a dancer from cheetah. We live and learn from our mistakes.
TooHotForYou
03-23-23, 14:53
We had a good time. She's kissing and starts with a BJ. Asked for allowance and I gave it to her and then she was like wash up so I went into the bathroom to wash up, she must've hit my wallet then. Then I get into the bed, she now goes to the bathroom and then left the room. By the time I got dressed she was out. She took my cash, at least she left all my other shit. Def I let it go but damn I never let anything like that happen to me before.Are you saying she went to the bathroom in the room then left the room? Or are you saying she went to the bathroom and then left the room when in the bathroom?
That's lucky that she didn't just grab the whole wallet. The grab and go while you're in the bathroom move happens a lot in Vegas with casino girls. Your post is a good reminder to all of us to never leave your wallet unattended around a SB, especially those of you with privacy concerns. Nothing good can come from a thief having your ID.There are always three sides to a story, his side, her side and some story in between. For me to believe his story, I need more details. For instance did the bathroom have an opening to the outside? Highly unusual, if it did. His story just does not add up and being his first post, I'm highly suspicious.
Any info on her?
https://members.seeking.com/member/8fe2467c-e574-4c3a-8acd-e9a1ef64b9b3See Post #12120.
LouisHernandez
03-23-23, 22:51
If money is brought up before we get naked, I'm out. That's just a prostitute. It's a line I won't cross. The lay will suck, she'll probably require covered parking, all of which are deal breakers if I'm paying money. I don't mind pulling out but I would prefer not even doing that anymore being 47. I don't care anymore, someday I won't be able to even get it up so I want the full experience. Just 5 years ago I'd called myself crazy. Not anymore. The clock is ticking.
Chatted with this one and was looking for $6 ppm and is not able to host.
A bit out of my budget.
https://members.seeking.com/member/407db62f-8ba9-467c-93f3-e403608b2936
LouisHernandez
03-23-23, 23:33
I tried SA. First of all, it takes a lot of effort to meet someone. Most girls are just scammers. I met few and things went well, but takes a lot of time and luck. I haven't used it for over 2 years now. I had a relationship that lasted 4 months, but it's rare. Don't be too generous, then they will assume that you're a sucker. Never, ever give your personal information. Make up a story about yourself. Always meet in public places and then go to private places. Don't believe anything they say because it's 100% bs.+1. I've done some rough math overall and here's what I've come up with.
5 girls messaged = 1 reply.
10 replies = 1 phone number.
10 phone numbers = 1 M&G.
3 M&Gs = 1 Fvck.
YMMV.
And don't message any girls that aren't local and who don't post UNFILTERED full body pictures. Beware of girls who post filtered pics. They are doing it to hide something. You must be efficient with your time here.
Finally don't simp. The hotter the girl the less compliments you should give her. Game matters. It's human nature to want someone who challenges you.
CuriousVaMan
03-24-23, 00:08
Louis, You're saying you get 1 fuck out of every 1500 women you message? This can't be right.
+1. I've done some rough math overall and here's what I've come up with.
5 girls messaged = 1 reply.
10 replies = 1 phone number.
10 phone numbers = 1 M&G.
3 M&Gs = 1 Fvck.
YMMV.
And don't message any girls that aren't local and who don't post UNFILTERED full body pictures. Beware of girls who post filtered pics. They are doing it to hide something. You must be efficient with your time here.
Finally don't simp. The hotter the girl the less compliments you should give her. Game matters. It's human nature to want someone who challenges you.
LouisHernandez
03-24-23, 01:17
Louis, You're saying you get 1 fuck out of every 1500 women you message? This can't be right.Maybe for every 5 messaging convos I get 1 phone number. It's definitely 10 phone numbers or MORE that convert to 1 M&G.
The standard conversion of phone number to M&G is 5-10% and that is for certain. Lately 2-3 M&Gs = a Fvck. It's bad. 5 years ago, it was a whole different game. I long since gave up on SA b / c of these metrics. There are better sites out there for sugaring, but they all are tough.
SA is a total dead POS. It was the bomb 5 years ago, now it's just another time wasting scam site. The girls are horrible on there too.
Airmantroy
03-24-23, 09:46
Maybe for every 5 messaging convos I get 1 phone number. It's definitely 10 phone numbers or MORE that convert to 1 M&G.
The standard conversion of phone number to M&G is 5-10% and that is for certain. Lately 2-3 M&Gs = a Fvck. It's bad. 5 years ago, it was a whole different game. I long since gave up on SA b / c of these metrics. There are better sites out there for sugaring, but they all are tough.
SA is a total dead POS. It was the bomb 5 years ago, now it's just another time wasting scam site. The girls are horrible on there too.On a whim, I re-upped my premium on Monday. I had several old stale messages that were of no use as they cycled thru. Since Monday I have sent 11 messages, gotten 9 replies and 7 numbers to text. 1 had GPS and is a semi-pro, 1 has been reviewed here a while back and scheduling with her was simple as 2 texts. 2 others have never been mentioned and M&G are set with both next week.
Something about the type of girl you are contacting or your initial approach is.
https://members.seeking.com/member/216c2e27-7ff7-43fe-99c5-5b7b485d63b5
These girls still have serious GPS. They all throw out $600 to meet. None of them can host, and half of them say they don't have a car and need me to Uber them on top of that. It's gone down hill for sure. I just cancelled my membership again. Active for 2 months this go around and dozens of numbers, but not a single actual meet because these girls all think they're worth $600-1 k.
I agree, years ago it was a night and day difference. Two years ago I had a rotation of girls from there I'd see. Now, nothing. My approach hasn't changed, these girls have.
Back in the game again after being out for a while. Summer xx reached out to me and we started a convo. Had to go into a meeting and figured I would check here to see if anyone has had any experience with this good looking blonde.
https://members.seeking.com/member/01005f76-773d-48cb-9b2d-479aace33ba3
DudeNextDoor
03-24-23, 13:59
Dang, she told me 1 k ppm. I should have jumped on that price while I had it LOL.
https://members.seeking.com/member/216c2e27-7ff7-43fe-99c5-5b7b485d63b5
LouisHernandez
03-24-23, 14:06
On a whim, I re-upped my premium on Monday. I had several old stale messages that were of no use as they cycled thru. Since Monday I have sent 11 messages, gotten 9 replies and 7 numbers to text. 1 had GPS and is a semi-pro, 1 has been reviewed here a while back and scheduling with her was simple as 2 texts. 2 others have never been mentioned and M&G are set with both next week.
Something about the type of girl you are contacting or your initial approach is.It's also the city I live in. Denver that could be very different. But my approach has been the same as it's always been, filter GPS, filter non local, etc. It's just not the same site. I've had better luck recently on some other sites. I'll never get on seeking again. It's the ******* of sugar sites now IMHO. I'm not even sure it's considered a "sugar" site anymore and that's the problem.
Oh and the fake profiles are too much to bear. Seeking won't enact a more rigorous user verification system like mandating users validate a US Mobile phone to get in (not a voip number either). I got sick and tired of trying to determine which profiles were real and which were fake. And most seem to be fake / scammers.
Good luck to you though. It's tough everywhere.
LouisHernandez
03-24-23, 14:32
These girls still have serious GPS. They all throw out $600 to meet. None of them can host, and half of them say they don't have a car and need me to Uber them on top of that. It's gone down hill for sure. I just cancelled my membership again. Active for 2 months this go around and dozens of numbers, but not a single actual meet because these girls all think they're worth $600-1 k.
I agree, years ago it was a night and day difference. Two years ago I had a rotation of girls from there I'd see. Now, nothing. My approach hasn't changed, these girls have.With the economy thankfully turning back to capitalism more than socialism, these women should start becoming more reasonable. So the sugar economy should begin to improve to our advantage as the economy continues to decline. Get off seeking.com . There are other sites with better approaches that I can already vouch that work much better. The girls are higher quality, friendlier, and less GPS. Sure you still deal with the standard flake rates, but the numbers are getting more in our favor. Make sure you have some good profile pics and stay in shape and stay within about 20 years of your age success can be had for $200 a pop BBFS. Game also matters, just don't simp.
SugarDaddio
03-24-23, 14:36
Louis would you mind sharing some of the other sites you are talking about. I usually avoid other sites simply because I don't investigate well enough to see if they are legit and worth the effort. Thanks in advance.
SD.
With the economy thankfully turning back to capitalism more than socialism, these women should start becoming more reasonable. So the sugar economy should begin to improve to our advantage as the economy continues to decline. Get off seeking.com . There are other sites with better approaches that I can already vouch that work much better. The girls are higher quality, friendlier, and less GPS. Sure you still deal with the standard flake rates, but the numbers are getting more in our favor. Make sure you have some good profile pics and stay in shape and stay within about 20 years of your age success can be had for $200 a pop BBFS. Game also matters, just don't simp.
This one has been discussed lately. I met her around Christmas. She is a very sweet girl. As everyone has mentioned she is very talkative. That can be good or bad depending on what you like. Didn't bother me. She stays near the Beltline in a studio apartment. She has a little dog. Dog was not much of a bother. I meet her at her place. We walked to a local bar and got a drink to break the ice. Then we went to the liquor store near by. Grabbed some alcohol and walked back to her place. Here we continued to drink and talk about everything under the sun. She tells me she is very comfortable with me. Even offered to let me spend the night. After about an hour she says it's time for the fun stuff. Tells me to get comfortable. I get undressed and get on the bed. She turns on some music, undresses and joins me. We start making out. Then I start kissing her, working my way to daty. Simultaneously she stops me and I smell an odor. She tells me No I am on my cycle. But we can still fuck. I am immediately turned off. I put back on my clothes. We just drink and chill for another hour or two. She keeps apologizing. Still offers me to stay the night. I decline and leave. I was never going to see her again, but I have been seeing positive feedback on her lately. I will chalk it up to bad timing. Anyway donation was 250 no time limit.
Messaged her back and forth a few months ago. She wanted 250 ppm. I can't remember why we never hooked up. Seemed legit. Not sure if it was scheduling or something else.
I messaged back and forth with Cheeky a few months ago. If I am not mistaken, she told me she was a teacher and has kids. She is looking for extra dough and a FWB type of situation. Of course she has to schedule around her kids. I think it is a shared rotating custody situation if I remember correctly. Easy communication, seemed sweet. We scheduled a meet and fu#k at her place. We agreed on an odd donation of 220 ppm. I didn't realize Fitzgerald was 3 hours away from me, which is where she is located. I couldn't chance driving that far to be catfished or given the run around. Not saying that was her intentions. I just couldn't take that chance. Maybe one of you studs that stay closer can give her a try and report back. Then I might take the drive.
+1. I've done some rough math overall and here's what I've come up with.
5 girls messaged = 1 reply.
10 replies = 1 phone number.
10 phone numbers = 1 M&G.
3 M&Gs = 1 Fvck.
YMMV.
And don't message any girls that aren't local and who don't post UNFILTERED full body pictures. Beware of girls who post filtered pics. They are doing it to hide something. You must be efficient with your time here.
Finally don't simp. The hotter the girl the less compliments you should give her. Game matters. It's human nature to want someone who challenges you.Something wrong here. I find maybe one out of 50 won't give me their number right away to get off the site and into text. The ones that won't give me their number (or text me which is same) after 5-10 message exchanges, particularly if I explain why I don't discuss details on websites is probably 1 in 500.
Are you putting really specific things, or limitations in your profile? I've found that usually only filters the pool in ways you don't want. It's better to market yourself with good but accurate photos, words that attract but remain open to cast a wide net, then filter from there. Lots of my best ones texted me before I ever even saw their profile.
SalvatoreIttup
03-24-23, 23:23
This one has been discussed lately. I met her around Christmas. She is a very sweet girl. As everyone has mentioned she is very talkative. That can be good or bad depending on what you like. Didn't bother me. She stays near the Beltline in a studio apartment. She has a little dog. Dog was not much of a bother. I meet her at her place. We walked to a local bar and got a drink to break the ice. Then we went to the liquor store near by. Grabbed some alcohol and walked back to her place. Here we continued to drink and talk about everything under the sun. She tells me she is very comfortable with me. Even offered to let me spend the night. After about an hour she says it's time for the fun stuff. Tells me to get comfortable. I get undressed and get on the bed. She turns on some music, undresses and joins me. We start making out. Then I start kissing her, working my way to daty. Simultaneously she stops me and I smell an odor. She tells me No I am on my cycle. But we can still fuck. I am immediately turned off. I put back on my clothes. We just drink and chill for another hour or two. She keeps apologizing. Still offers me to stay the night. I decline and leave. I was never going to see her again, but I have been seeing positive feedback on her lately. I will chalk it up to bad timing. Anyway donation was 250 no time limit.Are you saying that the odor was from her cycle? Some of these chicks always have a bad odor, and require several showers to get the BV stink off of the family jewels. An IUD also increases the chances of a bad odor, it seems. Did she not offer to get you off one way or another, either with hand or bbj??
LouisHernandez
03-24-23, 23:51
This one has been discussed lately. I met her around Christmas. She is a very sweet girl. As everyone has mentioned she is very talkative. That can be good or bad depending on what you like. Didn't bother me. She stays near the Beltline in a studio apartment. She has a little dog. Dog was not much of a bother. I meet her at her place. We walked to a local bar and got a drink to break the ice. Then we went to the liquor store near by. Grabbed some alcohol and walked back to her place. Here we continued to drink and talk about everything under the sun. She tells me she is very comfortable with me. Even offered to let me spend the night. After about an hour she says it's time for the fun stuff. Tells me to get comfortable. I get undressed and get on the bed. She turns on some music, undresses and joins me. We start making out. Then I start kissing her, working my way to daty. Simultaneously she stops me and I smell an odor. She tells me No I am on my cycle. But we can still fuck. I am immediately turned off. I put back on my clothes. We just drink and chill for another hour or two. She keeps apologizing. Still offers me to stay the night. I decline and leave. I was never going to see her again, but I have been seeing positive feedback on her lately. I will chalk it up to bad timing. Anyway donation was 250 no time limit.That sucks beyond sucks. No amount of dick pills will work with the rotten fish smell. What is wrong with these women. I've had that happen a few times and tried my best to forget the experience.
LouisHernandez
03-24-23, 23:55
Something wrong here. I find maybe one out of 50 won't give me their number right away to get off the site and into text. The ones that won't give me their number (or text me which is same) after 5-10 message exchanges, particularly if I explain why I don't discuss details on websites is probably 1 in 500.
Are you putting really specific things, or limitations in your profile? I've found that usually only filters the pool in ways you don't want. It's better to market yourself with good but accurate photos, words that attract but remain open to cast a wide net, then filter from there. Lots of my best ones texted me before I ever even saw their profile.I had a few beers last night so let me correct my numbers.
Recent seeking.com experience (within the past 6 months).
4 messages = 1 reply.
5 replies = 1 phone number.
10 phones numbers = 1 M&G.
2 M&Gs = 1 closed deal.
Those are rough estimates but you get the picture.
CarmelFight
03-25-23, 08:19
Pfft more like 100 interests.
10 reply's.
10 off site.
4 legit.
1 actual SB that doesn't give GPS price.
Those are rough estimates but you get the picture.I've always felt sugaring was a great deal of work. It certainly hasn't gotten any easier lately, but maybe a deep recession with remedy that?
I've always felt sugaring was a great deal of work. It certainly hasn't gotten any easier lately, but maybe a deep recession with remedy that?That's why I stopped using SA 2 years ago. All talk, no action. That's when I discovered clubs. I used to visit south Florida, but we have even better ones here in Atlanta. That said, I understand that each person has a different taste and expectations. Some people want that connection, have conversations and etc.
If my math is correct, you're getting one success out of 400 messages? That's like one / fourth of one percent success on your messages. Last time out my success rate was about 30 percent of the ones I messaged, but I'm very selective about sending messages. Yes, I went to the mattress with about 30 percent of the SBs I messaged, 5 of the 6 MGs and every one BBFS. Set your sights on 25 years and older and your success rate should improve greatly.
I had a few beers last night so let me correct my numbers.
Recent seeking.com experience (within the past 6 months).
4 messages = 1 reply.
5 replies = 1 phone number.
10 phones numbers = 1 M&G.
2 M&Gs = 1 closed deal.
Those are rough estimates but you get the picture.
LouisHernandez
03-25-23, 14:08
I've always felt sugaring was a great deal of work. It certainly hasn't gotten any easier lately, but maybe a deep recession with remedy that?A deep recession is coming, and it will help us all tremendously. We need some deflation and higher unemployment to reduce GPS.
Shakal8021
03-26-23, 06:15
Hey guys, I thought its about time I contribute back to the community. Haven't been active on here but still been active in the game. I'm going to post some encounters I've had. All of these have been personal meet ups. Either I won't see them again or I'm just willing to share them.
These will just be a brief description, if anyone wants an in depth review, DM or post on here and I may do so.
Lisapoo.
https://members.seeking.com/member/d72aaf51-2d82-4880-9770-437671bbdf85
Wanted 3 $$ for a "quickie" claiming 15 minutes but she was here for an hr, can't host. Wouldn't budge below 3. Was GFE, all bare with CIP.
Sugarbabyyyy20.
https://members.seeking.com/member/8d6fe6b6-4a82-4f94-9ab5-ded2f7656260
She's been reviewed on here before, if I had known I would have saved myself $1 $$, paid 3. But apparently she'll do 2 $$. Very mechanical and boring and kept holding off on the fun. 3+ hrs.
The Lioness Goddess.
https://members.seeking.com/member/4717b4da-aa00-4072-810b-80436751d397
Attractive photos, a bit bigger in person imo. Very sweet girl, but required cover. Did anal though. 3 $$, hung out for about 2 hrs. Can't host.
Angel.
https://members.seeking.com/member/a1375f8c-b6bc-4fec-8a96-5d9fe4a2e082
Seen her twice a while back. Very sweet girl. Great sex, all bare, GFE, and did anal the second time with CIA. 3 $$-35 $. 4-5 hrs w / multiple rounds. Lives in gainesville though and isn't mobile anymore. Can't host.
Germanbabe.
https://members.seeking.com/member/51ddcbce-24b7-4987-b69c-d876c43e10e4
Seen twice, all bare. Also does anal with CIA both times. 2 rounds. 2-3 hrs. 3 $$. Can't host.
Sultrybabe.
https://members.seeking.com/member/ba01bb09-6260-4fa6-bd08-c52cbfc2b580
Pretty sure she's a LC girl. Doesn't give head but the rest YMMV. $50. Hosted out of hotel room.
BellaRose.
https://members.seeking.com/member/536bc084-f26f-4d13-a9f7-1809d583944c
She agreed to 2 $$ since I was younger and she let me get a pass for that apparently. Made me take an instant oral HIV test to do bare so total was $$5. Was GFE. Also can't host. 2-3 hrs.
Nezzy.
https://members.seeking.com/member/d868bfcf-9d70-447a-b031-f9a26f7a1aa7
She's been reviewed on here before. Seen her 3 x. 1 $$-50. All bare and CIP. She hosted out of her apartment. One round.
Cute_lover93.
https://members.seeking.com/member/e5e7aee4-a6fc-40f5-bb97-be5b505b4ad0
Took some convincing but got her to do bare, no cip though. Not really my cup of tea and the sex was boring. $$$5. Agreed to 2 rounds but did 1. 1-2 hrs. She hosts.
Babygirliriss.
https://members.seeking.com/member/de6210eb-2556-4030-9373-3b9c24067e1f
Didn't look like pics imo. Was heavier. Can't remember the damage but think it was $$5. Wanted a cover. 1 hr. She hosts.
LunaLuvv.
https://members.seeking.com/member/4e8d6587-6905-4f33-8fcd-e77c3ba0b9e4
All bare no CIP, 2 rounds. 3 hrs. Can't host. $$5.
Kay_C.
https://members.seeking.com/member/337bfcd7-b38d-49c2-95c4-d3d42043906d
GFE, All bare. Let me do anal second time. Can host, but was far for me. 3 $$-35 $.
InnovativeSmartness.
https://members.seeking.com/member/3dd8cd4f-16c1-48ca-870b-33dc68f60062
Very sweet, GFE. All bare. CIP. 3 $$. Open for more than one round. Can host.
XJ.
https://members.seeking.com/member/706e737b-fe11-42d0-8846-25b6998aaa77
Very fun, GFE. All bare with CIP. 1-2 hrs. 2 $$. Can host.
LovelyCe.
https://members.seeking.com/member/6dbe95a9-48ce-475f-90fd-375ac3ec10bd
Quick fun. Only done cardate with her as she can not host. Great bbj and all bare as well. CIP first time as she's not on BC anymore. 1 $$-50.
That's all for now folks, at least the ones I can find and want to share. Got a couple from SDM I may share later on when I'm bored. As you can see my average is about $$.
Enjoy.
Oh BTW has anyone ever seen latinmami?
https://members.seeking.com/member/26551c64-5001-4313-860f-2251c5a10d26
If so I'd love to hear about your experience, I've always wondered about her. Willing to share more. Thanks.
Shakal8021
03-26-23, 06:23
Hey guys, I thought its about time I contribute back to the community. Haven't been active on here but still been active in the game. I'm going to post some encounters I've had. All of these have been personal meet ups. Either I won't see them again or I'm just willing to share them.
These will just be a brief description, if anyone wants an in depth review, DM or post on here and I may do so.
Lisapoo.
https://members.seeking.com/member/d72aaf51-2d82-4880-9770-437671bbdf85
Wanted 3 $$ for a "quickie" claiming 15 minutes but she was here for an hr, can't host. Wouldn't budge below 3. Was GFE, all bare with CIP.
Sugarbabyyyy20.
https://members.seeking.com/member/8d6fe6b6-4a82-4f94-9ab5-ded2f7656260
She's been reviewed on here before, if I had known I would have saved myself $1 $$, paid 3. But apparently she'll do 2 $$. Very mechanical and boring and kept holding off on the fun. 3+ hrs.
The Lioness Goddess.
https://members.seeking.com/member/4717b4da-aa00-4072-810b-80436751d397
Attractive photos, a bit bigger in person imo. Very sweet girl, but required cover. Did anal though. 3 $$, hung out for about 2 hrs. Can't host.
Angel.
https://members.seeking.com/member/a1375f8c-b6bc-4fec-8a96-5d9fe4a2e082
Seen her twice a while back. Very sweet girl. Great sex, all bare, GFE, and did anal the second time with CIA. 3 $$-35 $. 4-5 hrs w / multiple rounds. Lives in gainesville though and isn't mobile anymore. Can't host.
Germanbabe.
https://members.seeking.com/member/51ddcbce-24b7-4987-b69c-d876c43e10e4
Seen twice, all bare. Also does anal with CIA both times. 2 rounds. 2-3 hrs. 3 $$. Can't host.
Sultrybabe.
https://members.seeking.com/member/ba01bb09-6260-4fa6-bd08-c52cbfc2b580
Pretty sure she's a LC girl. Doesn't give head but the rest YMMV. $50. Hosted out of hotel room.
BellaRose.
https://members.seeking.com/member/536bc084-f26f-4d13-a9f7-1809d583944c
She agreed to 2 $$ since I was younger and she let me get a pass for that apparently. Made me take an instant oral HIV test to do bare so total was $$5. Was GFE. Also can't host. 2-3 hrs.
Nezzy.
https://members.seeking.com/member/d868bfcf-9d70-447a-b031-f9a26f7a1aa7
She's been reviewed on here before. Seen her 3 x. 1 $$-50. All bare and CIP. She hosted out of her apartment. One round.
Cute_lover93.
https://members.seeking.com/member/e5e7aee4-a6fc-40f5-bb97-be5b505b4ad0
Took some convincing but got her to do bare, no cip though. Not really my cup of tea and the sex was boring. $$$5. Agreed to 2 rounds but did 1. 1-2 hrs. She hosts.
Babygirliriss.
https://members.seeking.com/member/de6210eb-2556-4030-9373-3b9c24067e1f
Didn't look like pics imo. Was heavier. Can't remember the damage but think it was $$5. Wanted a cover. 1 hr. She hosts.
LunaLuvv.
https://members.seeking.com/member/4e8d6587-6905-4f33-8fcd-e77c3ba0b9e4
All bare no CIP, 2 rounds. 3 hrs. Can't host. $$5.
Kay_C.
https://members.seeking.com/member/337bfcd7-b38d-49c2-95c4-d3d42043906d
GFE, All bare. Let me do anal second time. Can host, but was far for me. 3 $$-35 $.
InnovativeSmartness.
https://members.seeking.com/member/3dd8cd4f-16c1-48ca-870b-33dc68f60062
Very sweet, GFE. All bare. CIP. 3 $$. Open for more than one round. Can host.
XJ.
https://members.seeking.com/member/706e737b-fe11-42d0-8846-25b6998aaa77
Very fun, GFE. All bare with CIP. 1-2 hrs. 2 $$. Can host.
LovelyCe.
https://members.seeking.com/member/6dbe95a9-48ce-475f-90fd-375ac3ec10bd
Quick fun. Only done cardate with her as she can not host. Great bbj and all bare as well. CIP first time as she's not on BC anymore. 1 $$50.
That's all for now folks, at least the ones I can find and want to share. Got a couple from SDM I may share later on when I'm bored.
Enjoy.
Oh BTW has anyone ever seen latinmami?
https://members.seeking.com/member/26551c64-5001-4313-860f-2251c5a10d26
If so I'd love to hear about your experience, I've always wondered about her. Willing to share more. Thanks.
Hey guys, I thought its about time I contribute back to the community. Haven't been active on here but still been active in the game. I'm going to post some encounters I've had. All of these have been personal meet ups. Either I won't see them again or I'm just willing to share them.
These will just be a brief description, if anyone wants an in depth review, DM or post on here and I may do so.
Lisapoo.
https://members.seeking.com/member/d72aaf51-2d82-4880-9770-437671bbdf85
Wanted 3 $$ for a "quickie" claiming 15 minutes but she was here for an hr, can't host. Wouldn't budge below 3. Was GFE, all bare with CIP.
Sugarbabyyyy20.
https://members.seeking.com/member/8d6fe6b6-4a82-4f94-9ab5-ded2f7656260
She's been reviewed on here before, if I had known I would have saved myself $1 $$, paid 3. But apparently she'll do 2 $$. Very mechanical and boring and kept holding off on the fun. 3+ hrs.
The Lioness Goddess.
https://members.seeking.com/member/4717b4da-aa00-4072-810b-80436751d397
Attractive photos, a bit bigger in person imo. Very sweet girl, but required cover. Did anal though. 3 $$, hung out for about 2 hrs. Can't host.
Angel.
https://members.seeking.com/member/a1375f8c-b6bc-4fec-8a96-5d9fe4a2e082
Seen her twice a while back. Very sweet girl. Great sex, all bare, GFE, and did anal the second time with CIA. 3 $$-35 $. 4-5 hrs w / multiple rounds. Lives in gainesville though and isn't mobile anymore. Can't host.
Germanbabe.
https://members.seeking.com/member/51ddcbce-24b7-4987-b69c-d876c43e10e4
Seen twice, all bare. Also does anal with CIA both times. 2 rounds. 2-3 hrs. 3 $$. Can't host.
Sultrybabe.
https://members.seeking.com/member/ba01bb09-6260-4fa6-bd08-c52cbfc2b580
Pretty sure she's a LC girl. Doesn't give head but the rest YMMV. $50. Hosted out of hotel room.
BellaRose.
https://members.seeking.com/member/536bc084-f26f-4d13-a9f7-1809d583944c
She agreed to 2 $$ since I was younger and she let me get a pass for that apparently. Made me take an instant oral HIV test to do bare so total was $$5. Was GFE. Also can't host. 2-3 hrs.
Nezzy.
https://members.seeking.com/member/d868bfcf-9d70-447a-b031-f9a26f7a1aa7
She's been reviewed on here before. Seen her 3 x. 1 $$-50. All bare and CIP. She hosted out of her apartment. One round.
Cute_lover93.
https://members.seeking.com/member/e5e7aee4-a6fc-40f5-bb97-be5b505b4ad0
Took some convincing but got her to do bare, no cip though. Not really my cup of tea and the sex was boring. $$$5. Agreed to 2 rounds but did 1. 1-2 hrs. She hosts.
Babygirliriss.
https://members.seeking.com/member/de6210eb-2556-4030-9373-3b9c24067e1f
Didn't look like pics imo. Was heavier. Can't remember the damage but think it was $$5. Wanted a cover. 1 hr. She hosts.
LunaLuvv.
https://members.seeking.com/member/4e8d6587-6905-4f33-8fcd-e77c3ba0b9e4
All bare no CIP, 2 rounds. 3 hrs. Can't host. $$5.
Kay_C.
https://members.seeking.com/member/337bfcd7-b38d-49c2-95c4-d3d42043906d
GFE, All bare. Let me do anal second time. Can host, but was far for me. 3 $$-35 $.
InnovativeSmartness.
https://members.seeking.com/member/3dd8cd4f-16c1-48ca-870b-33dc68f60062
Very sweet, GFE. All bare. CIP. 3 $$. Open for more than one round. Can host.
XJ.
https://members.seeking.com/member/706e737b-fe11-42d0-8846-25b6998aaa77
Very fun, GFE. All bare with CIP. 1-2 hrs. 2 $$. Can host.
LovelyCe.
https://members.seeking.com/member/6dbe95a9-48ce-475f-90fd-375ac3ec10bd
Quick fun. Only done cardate with her as she can not host. Great bbj and all bare as well. CIP first time as she's not on BC anymore. 1 $$50.
That's all for now folks, at least the ones I can find and want to share. Got a couple from SDM I may share later on when I'm bored.
Enjoy.
Oh BTW has anyone ever seen latinmami?
https://members.seeking.com/member/26551c64-5001-4313-860f-2251c5a10d26
If so I'd love to hear about your experience, I've always wondered about her. Willing to share more. Thanks.Excellent post, thanks for all the intel!
FarFarAway
03-26-23, 15:45
A comment made in another sugar thread concerned me so I personally investigated. If you have a SO, you really really need to be careful about this.
The website that you need to worry about is pimeyes.com. It is a free facial recognition site. I have been very circumspect about putting my real photos on the seeking site, the only ones I provide are actually of someone not me (but similar to me) and have half the face cut off. However, in private texting, after I have spoken w / someone and am pretty sure I want to meet them, I saw no recourse but to provide a real pic. This is one that has all metadata stripped and has never appeared anywhere on the internet, on social media or anywhere else.
I just ran pimeyes on my one real photo I use for sugari. I have a relatively prominent internet presence because of my profession. That website found 7 instances of my real photos online. One of the finds was of someone else. However, if a girl wanted to search my one provided pic, she would get my *real* name and lots more information about me. This would make me extremely vulnerable to extortion, as I clearly mark on my seeking profile that I am married.
The only mitigating feature of pimeyes is that we can use it against girls.
Hey guys, I thought its about time I contribute back to the community. Haven't been active on here but still been active in the game. I'm going to post some encounters I've had. All of these have been personal meet ups. Either I won't see them again or I'm just willing to share them.
These will just be a brief description, if anyone wants an in depth review, DM or post on here and I may do so.
Lisapoo.
https://members.seeking.com/member/d72aaf51-2d82-4880-9770-437671bbdf85
Wanted 3 $$ for a "quickie" claiming 15 minutes but she was here for an hr, can't host. Wouldn't budge below 3. Was GFE, all bare with CIP.
Sugarbabyyyy20.
https://members.seeking.com/member/8d6fe6b6-4a82-4f94-9ab5-ded2f7656260
She's been reviewed on here before, if I had known I would have saved myself $1 $$, paid 3. But apparently she'll do 2 $$. Very mechanical and boring and kept holding off on the fun. 3+ hrs.
The Lioness Goddess.
https://members.seeking.com/member/4717b4da-aa00-4072-810b-80436751d397
Attractive photos, a bit bigger in person imo. Very sweet girl, but required cover. Did anal though. 3 $$, hung out for about 2 hrs. Can't host.
Angel.
https://members.seeking.com/member/a1375f8c-b6bc-4fec-8a96-5d9fe4a2e082
Seen her twice a while back. Very sweet girl. Great sex, all bare, GFE, and did anal the second time with CIA. 3 $$-35 $. 4-5 hrs w / multiple rounds. Lives in gainesville though and isn't mobile anymore. Can't host.
Germanbabe.
https://members.seeking.com/member/51ddcbce-24b7-4987-b69c-d876c43e10e4
Seen twice, all bare. Also does anal with CIA both times. 2 rounds. 2-3 hrs. 3 $$. Can't host.
Sultrybabe.
https://members.seeking.com/member/ba01bb09-6260-4fa6-bd08-c52cbfc2b580
Pretty sure she's a LC girl. Doesn't give head but the rest YMMV. $50. Hosted out of hotel room.
BellaRose.
https://members.seeking.com/member/536bc084-f26f-4d13-a9f7-1809d583944c
She agreed to 2 $$ since I was younger and she let me get a pass for that apparently. Made me take an instant oral HIV test to do bare so total was $$5. Was GFE. Also can't host. 2-3 hrs.
Nezzy.
https://members.seeking.com/member/d868bfcf-9d70-447a-b031-f9a26f7a1aa7
She's been reviewed on here before. Seen her 3 x. 1 $$-50. All bare and CIP. She hosted out of her apartment. One round.
Cute_lover93.
https://members.seeking.com/member/e5e7aee4-a6fc-40f5-bb97-be5b505b4ad0
Took some convincing but got her to do bare, no cip though. Not really my cup of tea and the sex was boring. $$$5. Agreed to 2 rounds but did 1. 1-2 hrs. She hosts.
Babygirliriss.
https://members.seeking.com/member/de6210eb-2556-4030-9373-3b9c24067e1f
Didn't look like pics imo. Was heavier. Can't remember the damage but think it was $$5. Wanted a cover. 1 hr. She hosts.
LunaLuvv.
https://members.seeking.com/member/4e8d6587-6905-4f33-8fcd-e77c3ba0b9e4
All bare no CIP, 2 rounds. 3 hrs. Can't host. $$5.
Kay_C.
https://members.seeking.com/member/337bfcd7-b38d-49c2-95c4-d3d42043906d
GFE, All bare. Let me do anal second time. Can host, but was far for me. 3 $$-35 $.
InnovativeSmartness.
https://members.seeking.com/member/3dd8cd4f-16c1-48ca-870b-33dc68f60062
Very sweet, GFE. All bare. CIP. 3 $$. Open for more than one round. Can host.
XJ.
https://members.seeking.com/member/706e737b-fe11-42d0-8846-25b6998aaa77
Very fun, GFE. All bare with CIP. 1-2 hrs. 2 $$. Can host.
LovelyCe.
https://members.seeking.com/member/6dbe95a9-48ce-475f-90fd-375ac3ec10bd
Quick fun. Only done cardate with her as she can not host. Great bbj and all bare as well. CIP first time as she's not on BC anymore. 1 $$50.
That's all for now folks, at least the ones I can find and want to share. Got a couple from SDM I may share later on when I'm bored.
Enjoy.
Oh BTW has anyone ever seen latinmami?
https://members.seeking.com/member/26551c64-5001-4313-860f-2251c5a10d26
If so I'd love to hear about your experience, I've always wondered about her. Willing to share more. Thanks.Like Denzel Washington says: my man. My man seems to be a player. Like my urologist says, more power to you.
LouisHernandez
03-26-23, 22:16
Like Denzel Washington says: my man. My man seems to be a player. Like my urologist says, more power to you.Yeah even in my prime and the sites prime, I wasn't tagging that high of quality pussy consistently. Enjoy that shit is all I can say b / c nothing lasts forever. How old are you?
LouisHernandez
03-26-23, 22:21
A comment made in another sugar thread concerned me so I personally investigated. If you have a SO, you really really need to be careful about this.
The website that you need to worry about is pimeyes.com. It is a free facial recognition site. I have been very circumspect about putting my real photos on the seeking site, the only ones I provide are actually of someone not me (but similar to me) and have half the face cut off. However, in private texting, after I have spoken w / someone and am pretty sure I want to meet them, I saw no recourse but to provide a real pic. This is one that has all metadata stripped and has never appeared anywhere on the internet, on social media or anywhere else.
I just ran pimeyes on my one real photo I use for sugari. I have a relatively prominent internet presence because of my profession. That website found 7 instances of my real photos online. One of the finds was of someone else. However, if a girl wanted to search my one provided pic, she would get my *real* name and lots more information about me. This would make me extremely vulnerable to extortion, as I clearly mark on my seeking profile that I am married.
The only mitigating feature of pimeyes is that we can use it against girls.You're not kidding about this. I ran a pic of myself taken a month ago and it matched up with a linkedin photo of me from 10 years ago! Honestly, it's so good, there's nothing you can do b / c new pics won't save you. They do charge for this after a few searches though but not very much.
NewAnonymousName
03-26-23, 23:17
A comment made in another sugar thread concerned me so I personally investigated. If you have a SO, you really really need to be careful about this.
The website that you need to worry about is pimeyes.com. It is a free facial recognition site. I have been very circumspect about putting my real photos on the seeking site, the only ones I provide are actually of someone not me (but similar to me) and have half the face cut off. However, in private texting, after I have spoken w / someone and am pretty sure I want to meet them, I saw no recourse but to provide a real pic. This is one that has all metadata stripped and has never appeared anywhere on the internet, on social media or anywhere else.
I just ran pimeyes on my one real photo I use for sugari. I have a relatively prominent internet presence because of my profession. That website found 7 instances of my real photos online. One of the finds was of someone else. However, if a girl wanted to search my one provided pic, she would get my *real* name and lots more information about me. This would make me extremely vulnerable to extortion, as I clearly mark on my seeking profile that I am married.
The only mitigating feature of pimeyes is that we can use it against girls.
Using a picture of me in sunglasses (which I have shared with potential SBs), the site pulled up a professional website picture of me as the very first of 30 potential matches. So in a matter of seconds, a woman with bad intentions would have my name and workplace. This is disturbing. I wont be sharing pictures any longer.
Shakal8021
03-27-23, 00:31
Yeah even in my prime and the sites prime, I wasn't tagging that high of quality pussy consistently. Enjoy that shit is all I can say b / c nothing lasts forever. How old are you?True nothing lasts forever, so I'm going to keep enjoying this while I can LOL. I'm 28, fairly fit. I just started sugaring last year and am loving it, was doing call girls before but no where near as fun. I'm a bit upset I missed SA during it's prime as I keep reading about it. But it's alright, do with what you have. I actually saved a longer list of my favorite ones or the real lookers. Some of which may not be active anymore but I still keep in touch with. Again, I'm willing to trade for something special as well. I also wish there were more reviews of SB's on here. We could use more.
FarFarAway
03-27-23, 00:32
You're not kidding about this. I ran a pic of myself taken a month ago and it matched up with a linkedin photo of me from 10 years ago! Honestly, it's so good, there's nothing you can do b / c new pics won't save you. They do charge for this after a few searches though but not very much.So, about that giving you a few freebies. Most sites for search of identifying information do this. However, they either set cookies to count off the number, or require an email address. You can get around this by providing yet another email address or deleting cookies.
My huge concern is even on the initial search, they show the URL on which the photo is found. Well, at least much of it. But often enough of it that someone smart could figure out the real URL, and go to it and look for you. Especially when it is from a prominent organization.
And, like others, I found some websites that have my photo up that should not. An advocacy organization that I used to be a member of evidently still has a profile for me, with picture. I have had to contact them to get them to take it down.
One thing we definitely must be sure not to do is ever ever ever mention to a SB or on a website other than this one that this power exists. The fewer girls who know about this the better.
One of the things about SA that has been a plus in the past is that they block google from scanning its profile pages, so you can't automatically show up in a google search. YK, it used to be that they had a mandatory captcha just to log into the site each and every time. Those days, that seemed safer to me. It probably is sorta safer than just being out on CL or some such.
Peter Johnson
03-27-23, 06:47
Using a picture of me in sunglasses (which I have shared with potential SBs), the site pulled up a professional website picture of me as the very first of 30 potential matches. So in a matter of seconds, a woman with bad intentions would have my name and workplace. This is disturbing. I wont be sharing pictures any longer.I just tried it with one of the photos that I usually send out to sb prospects, and it pulled up another pic of me from a few years ago, among four potential matches. I paid the $14.99 to see what site it linked to, but that site was "mavink.com" and the link said "under maintenance" so not sure what that is about. But yes, this is troubling, and I won't be posting any more photos of me on social media (although it's clearly already too late).
2me4Looking2
03-27-23, 10:00
A comment made in another sugar thread concerned me so I personally investigated. If you have a SO, you really really need to be careful about this.
The website that you need to worry about is pimeyes.com. It is a free facial recognition site. I have been very circumspect about putting my real photos on the seeking site, the only ones I provide are actually of someone not me (but similar to me) and have half the face cut off. However, in private texting, after I have spoken w / someone and am pretty sure I want to meet them, I saw no recourse but to provide a real pic. This is one that has all metadata stripped and has never appeared anywhere on the internet, on social media or anywhere else.
I just ran pimeyes on my one real photo I use for sugari. I have a relatively prominent internet presence because of my profession. That website found 7 instances of my real photos online. One of the finds was of someone else. However, if a girl wanted to search my one provided pic, she would get my *real* name and lots more information about me. This would make me extremely vulnerable to extortion, as I clearly mark on my seeking profile that I am married.
The only mitigating feature of pimeyes is that we can use it against girls.Like others, I tested with a photo I normally share and it found some matches. It won't let me see where they are from without paying though. I did click on the link to have my pics removed, but you have to do that for each individual result and I have no idea if they will really honor that request. I used to only share fake photos and then I lost 2 SB's I really wanted to see because they were upset that I used a fake pic. Not sure what I'll do going forward.
2me4Looking2
03-27-23, 10:26
Like others, I tested with a photo I normally share and it found some matches. It won't let me see where they are from without paying though. I did click on the link to have my pics removed, but you have to do that for each individual result and I have no idea if they will really honor that request. I used to only share fake photos and then I lost 2 SB's I really wanted to see because they were upset that I used a fake pic. Not sure what I'll do going forward.There is a link where you can upload a pic as well as an anonymized version of your I'd and they will supposedly stop showing any results for your face. I gave it a shot and removed all info from my DL other than my name and photo. Hoping I'm not making it worse.
FarFarAway
03-27-23, 10:30
There is a link where you can upload a pic as well as an anonymized version of your I'd and they will supposedly stop showing any results for your face. I gave it a shot and removed all info from my DL other than my name and photo. Hoping I'm not making it worse.Super interesting! Let us know how this works out. If it is a way to go, we'll all be grateful. I am going to start taking some other photos of mine and testing how easily the site matches up to the real me.
LouisHernandez
03-27-23, 11:41
So, about that giving you a few freebies. Most sites for search of identifying information do this. However, they either set cookies to count off the number, or require an email address. You can get around this by providing yet another email address or deleting cookies.
My huge concern is even on the initial search, they show the URL on which the photo is found. Well, at least much of it. But often enough of it that someone smart could figure out the real URL, and go to it and look for you. Especially when it is from a prominent organization.
And, like others, I found some websites that have my photo up that should not. An advocacy organization that I used to be a member of evidently still has a profile for me, with picture. I have had to contact them to get them to take it down.
One thing we definitely must be sure not to do is ever ever ever mention to a SB or on a website other than this one that this power exists. The fewer girls who know about this the better.
One of the things about SA that has been a plus in the past is that they block google from scanning its profile pages, so you can't automatically show up in a google search. YK, it used to be that they had a mandatory captcha just to log into the site each and every time. Those days, that seemed safer to me. It probably is sorta safer than just being out on CL or some such.I think it's by IP address on the freebies, and without paying it requires some technical prowess that basically no SB will have to track you down.
As AI improves it's becoming almost impossible to stay truly anonymous online if you are up against a dedicated hacker. That's just reality I'm afraid.
BrownSugaTwo
03-27-23, 18:14
ElegantMarathoner.
https://members.seeking.com/member/d9196aab-3bd1-4beb-8ee9-b26c56cbf07a
Dreamybabe23.
https://members.seeking.com/member/1e751dba-ac80-4aa5-9a7e-a93a11ac2fb7
Blossom.
https://members.seeking.com/member/000f4bfc-93c9-432f-9fde-7a732fc16772
Peter Johnson
03-27-23, 18:25
As AI improves it's becoming almost impossible to stay truly anonymous online if you are up against a dedicated hacker. That's just reality I'm afraid.And in real life too, because someone can just surreptitiously take a photo of you, with their phone, and then use this facial recognition tech to get your name, address, etc, etc.
MoreFunNoDrama
03-27-23, 18:54
I also spoke to the blonde in the middle. Didn't meet her, but we were texting for a while. She also came on to me rather bitchy, and demanding. I think she even discussed the fact that she needed a man with a very short refractory period. Well, I'm not 19 any more sweetheart. I can find women like these at a bar any weekend on Canton Street.
https://members.seeking.com/member/d096b3bb-c49f-441b-a921-3bf0f59a9e98Waste of time. They want 1 K per meet each. LOL. Wished her luck.
Peter Johnson
03-27-23, 18:55
In the past, I have bought a prepaid VISA card at Publix, and then registered the card with fake info, for my Seeking membership renewals. I figured out another way that works is to use crypto, and buy prepaid MC on Bitrefill.com
https://www.bitrefill.com/buy/prepaid-mastercard-usa/?hl=en
(Of course the crypto you pay with, may, or may not be linked to your identity, so that is an additional aspect to consider.)
When you buy the card on Bitrefill, it will give you a code that you enter at https://myprepaidcenter.com and then can make an acct and register the card. You can also buy the card for the exact amount of the membership, so you don't have to worry about using up the rest of it somehow.
https://members.seeking.com/member/9a181634-cb7a-4769-a386-73747b0813e6
Been texting this girl, wanted to see if anyone has had an encounter.
DudeNextDoor
03-28-23, 08:37
Seemed to be semi-pro. Said she could host or come to me. I think she wanted 600 or even more, can't remember exactly.
https://members.seeking.com/member/9a181634-cb7a-4769-a386-73747b0813e6
Been texting this girl, wanted to see if anyone has had an encounter.
And in real life too, because someone can just surreptitiously take a photo of you, with their phone, and then use this facial recognition tech to get your name, address, etc, etc.Honestly even just getting your tag number on your car is enough info. I always try to avoid any scenario where they can get my real life info, but unfortunately a lot of personal info is widely available through free open source research online. Same reason I never use real pics of myself on SA, nor send them. I also use a fake snapchat account with location services off and if they want a pic they get a filtered one. Too many crazies out there. I had one close call years ago where a girl figured out who I was because I wasn't careful enough on snapchat.
With the economy thankfully turning back to capitalism more than socialism, these women should start becoming more reasonable. So the sugar economy should begin to improve to our advantage as the economy continues to decline. Get off seeking.com . There are other sites with better approaches that I can already vouch that work much better. The girls are higher quality, friendlier, and less GPS. Sure you still deal with the standard flake rates, but the numbers are getting more in our favor. Make sure you have some good profile pics and stay in shape and stay within about 20 years of your age success can be had for $200 a pop BBFS. Game also matters, just don't simp.Desperate times call for desperate girls. But do you have any recommendations on legitimate sites? I know SD Meet but haven't tried it yet. I don't see a lot of other highly reviewed sites and SA still seems to be the most popular unfortunately.
LogJammin18
03-28-23, 10:52
Which VISA card at Publix? OneVanilla? Have you been able to then go online and register it? The VanillaGift Visa from Publix / CVS will no longer allow you to register it with any name / address on-line now.
In the past, I have bought a prepaid VISA card at Publix, and then registered the card with fake info, for my Seeking membership renewals. I figured out another way that works is to use crypto, and buy prepaid MC on Bitrefill.com
https://www.bitrefill.com/buy/prepaid-mastercard-usa/?hl=en
(Of course the crypto you pay with, may, or may not be linked to your identity, so that is an additional aspect to consider.)
When you buy the card on Bitrefill, it will give you a code that you enter at https://myprepaidcenter.com and then can make an acct and register the card. You can also buy the card for the exact amount of the membership, so you don't have to worry about using up the rest of it somehow.
LouisHernandez
03-28-23, 12:50
In the past, I have bought a prepaid VISA card at Publix, and then registered the card with fake info, for my Seeking membership renewals. I figured out another way that works is to use crypto, and buy prepaid MC on Bitrefill.com
https://www.bitrefill.com/buy/prepaid-mastercard-usa/?hl=en
(Of course the crypto you pay with, may, or may not be linked to your identity, so that is an additional aspect to consider.)
When you buy the card on Bitrefill, it will give you a code that you enter at https://myprepaidcenter.com and then can make an acct and register the card. You can also buy the card for the exact amount of the membership, so you don't have to worry about using up the rest of it somehow.Cash at the grocery store for a prepaid visa / mc is the simplest most effective way to buy an anonymous credit card.
Peter Johnson
03-28-23, 13:46
Cash at the grocery store for a prepaid visa / mc is the simplest most effective way to buy an anonymous credit card.I don't think it is any more, or less effective, than buying the card number online If it works, on Seeking then it works and if not, it doesn't. And it's simpler for me to just do it from home and conserve my cash, But still have to go out to public wifi to actually make the payment to renew the subscription, unless you want Seeking to be logging your non VPN'd IP address.
And it's all a personal decision of how much risk you want to take, just like BBFS / CIP with these girls. I'll take that risk, but not some others. But it's good we have multiple payment options now, in case some of them stop working.
Peter Johnson
03-28-23, 13:52
Desperate times call for desperate girls. .Yes when they really really need that rent money (or $ for hotel room), that is when your bargaining position is at the best. I'll never forget this preggers 24 yo that I CIP'd for. 3 back in they day when she was really hard up for cash.
FarFarAway
03-28-23, 14:05
Honestly even just getting your tag number on your car is enough info. I always try to avoid any scenario where they can get my real life info, but unfortunately a lot of personal info is widely available through free open source research online. Same reason I never use real pics of myself on SA, nor send them. I also use a fake snapchat account with location services off and if they want a pic they get a filtered one. Too many crazies out there. I had one close call years ago where a girl figured out who I was because I wasn't careful enough on snapchat.Before I meet a girl (M&G) or go to a FC meeting, I remove my (1 rear) license plate. This is fine in California, it might not be OK in other jurisdictions. I also have black tape across the VIN # on the windshield of my car.
IK a website where you can give them a plate or VIN # (and $40) and you get the full ownership of the vehicle.
Can you advise about what you exactly do w / your filter, that keeps you safe but satisfied the POT?
Smitty Scott
03-28-23, 19:34
I am not sure where to put this post, but I put it here because it started out in a sugar baby situation and I would love a little advice. I have been sugaring for about 8 years. Usually have 2-3 going at once and have had a few winners and a couple of flops. Most of the advice that I have used, I got from this website.
Current situation. I am 53 years old and one of my currents (9-10 months) has recently started an only fans account. This has allowed her (27 year old) to quit one of her two jobs and she has been making pretty good money at it. Most of her requests lately have been to fuck on camera. She asked me to be the guy in the video and she has managed to keep my face and voice out of her production. Since we started this. Her account has tripled. Not because of me, but because the demand for that is much greater than just nudes and masturbation. She suggested to me that maybe I look into Viagra or Cialis to be able to go twice back to back. This would us allow to film a couple of videos per session. I have never partaken of the stuff and was wanting some feedback. My questions are:
1. Do you lose sensation?
2. Do you last longer?
3. Can you go back to back pretty quickly?
4. Are there side effects to deal with?
I had my physical a week ago and got a prescription, but have not filled it. It feels like from my end, that there is no downside.
"Vibe"ygurll.
https://members.seeking.com/member/8144748a-8eef-47e1-a7a9-ef8f8bd8289f
Met with this one today. Real but prob not worth it. We met somewhere public to discuss before moving to a hotel. Talked for about 30 minutes and a couple (personal) dealbreakers came up so I wanted to reschedule and try to get out of it. She understandably got upset and I offered her some money for gas. She took it but demanded more ($100) cause she spent a whopping 30 minutes talking. I declined and she said "well I got my gun in my car so what's it going to be". Kinda blind sided me so I just gave her more money and she drove off. We were in a public parking lot and I honestly probably would have been fine but didn't want to get shot soooo.
Her profile says "come catch a vibe" and she talked about how she believed in karma. *shrug*. I guess if I didn't re-neg it woulda been fine but I don't think I deserved to get shot / robbed LOL.
Exoticspoiling.
https://members.seeking.com/member/928b7745-ca36-4abd-8871-9ae3a17268b0
Talked very little and probably real? Asked her what she's used to / comfortable with in terms of payment. She said 6 k a meet. LOL. Calling any oil princes?
I am not sure where to put this post, but I put it here because it started out in a sugar baby situation and I would love a little advice. I have been sugaring for about 8 years. Usually have 2-3 going at once and have had a few winners and a couple of flops. Most of the advice that I have used, I got from this website.
Current situation. I am 53 years old and one of my currents (9-10 months) has recently started an only fans account. This has allowed her (27 year old) to quit one of her two jobs and she has been making pretty good money at it. Most of her requests lately have been to fuck on camera. She asked me to be the guy in the video and she has managed to keep my face and voice out of her production. Since we started this. Her account has tripled. Not because of me, but because the demand for that is much greater than just nudes and masturbation. She suggested to me that maybe I look into Viagra or Cialis to be able to go twice back to back. This would us allow to film a couple of videos per session. I have never partaken of the stuff and was wanting some feedback. My questions are:
1. Do you lose sensation?
2. Do you last longer?
3. Can you go back to back pretty quickly?
4. Are there side effects to deal with?
I had my physical a week ago and got a prescription, but have not filled it. It feels like from my end, that there is no downside.Go with BlueChew and Cialis / Tadalafil. The only time I have real issues is when drinking more than a couple, as tends to happen on overnights with a couple of my SBs.
Also when sober, I have noticed that you last longer when on it. And able to go a second round pretty quick.
Just a week ago I met a prospect SB for dinner and things went well. Overnight in the hotel I shot down her throat at the start, and was ready for round 2 pretty quickly while taking Cialis / Tadafil earlier in the day.
As for the famous Blue Pill, it's pretty time limited. You need to plan ahead, take it and get busy within an hour or so.
SeekingHead
03-28-23, 21:27
1. Do you lose sensation? No.
2. Do you last longer? Yes, for me personally it takes me 50% longer to cum normally.
3. Can you go back to back pretty quickly? I would need a 10-20 minute break, & then be ready.
4. Are there side effects to deal with? Not really, a stuffy nose for me so I keep an afrin bottle nearby.
Machintosh
03-28-23, 21:52
1. Do you lose sensation? No.
2. Do you last longer? Not really.
3. Can you go back to back pretty quickly? It doesn't for me. ED meds studies show it doesn't impact refractory period.
4. Are there side effects to deal with? Stuffy nose sometimes.
I am not sure where to put this post, but I put it here because it started out in a sugar baby situation and I would love a little advice. I have been sugaring for about 8 years. Usually have 2-3 going at once and have had a few winners and a couple of flops. Most of the advice that I have used, I got from this website.
Current situation. I am 53 years old and one of my currents (9-10 months) has recently started an only fans account. This has allowed her (27 year old) to quit one of her two jobs and she has been making pretty good money at it. Most of her requests lately have been to fuck on camera. She asked me to be the guy in the video and she has managed to keep my face and voice out of her production. Since we started this. Her account has tripled. Not because of me, but because the demand for that is much greater than just nudes and masturbation. She suggested to me that maybe I look into Viagra or Cialis to be able to go twice back to back. This would us allow to film a couple of videos per session. I have never partaken of the stuff and was wanting some feedback. My questions are:
1. Do you lose sensation?
2. Do you last longer?
3. Can you go back to back pretty quickly?
4. Are there side effects to deal with?
I had my physical a week ago and got a prescription, but have not filled it. It feels like from my end, that there is no downside.First off, good for you. But I would seek professional advice from a urologist, not even general physician. When your tooth hurts, you don't go online and start looking for advice, you go to a dentist. This is even more serious because it involves more sensitive place. So talk to a urologist. You don't need to provide your life info, just let the guy know that you want to have fun. My two cents.
First off, good for you. But I would seek professional advice from a urologist, not even general physician. When your tooth hurts, you don't go online and start looking for advice, you go to a dentist. This is even more serious because it involves more sensitive place. So talk to a urologist. You don't need to provide your life info, just let the guy know that you want to have fun. My two cents.I respect getting "professional" advice. IMHO there are several "professionals" that will say the "right" thing or quote textbook to you, but may not have actual experience with the issue (meaning they've never tried it). Truthfully, you could just google the subject and get the exact same info a urologist would give and save yourself the co-pay and time.
There is definitely value added in seeking those with actual experience.
I respect getting "professional" advice. IMHO there are several "professionals" that will say the "right" thing or quote textbook to you, but may not have actual experience with the issue (meaning they've never tried it). Truthfully, you could just google the subject and get the exact same info a urologist would give and save yourself the co-pay and time. There is definitely value added in seeking those with actual experience.Completely agree. I had my first P2P encounter in 2007 and for the next two years indulged to an alarming degree with ladies, liquids and the gambit of recreational releases. One of the gals I liked to sportf**k said she'd waive donations if I could acquire and would use what she called "dick on demand". At that time viagra was still pretty new and cialis had just hit the market and it seemed most legit docs would only right a script if you could prove you were drawing Social Security. I had just turned 40 (I'm approximately same age as BobeSugar) and my doctor would not cooperate so I was SOL. As luck would have it, tho, a female client was having an affair with an older man who was having real ED issues so she figured out how to order online out of an Arizona online pharmacy with only one obstacle: she had to voice verify to complete the order. She asked me to do it and I said "no problem" so long as my commission came out of the delivery. I made a call and couple days later a batch of 10 mg Cialis showed up. I bit one in half and did nothing but fornicate for the next 48 hours. Fifteen years later I sometimes will pop one, but not always. Thing is, tho, if you have it in your arsenal you'll always be locked and loaded.
Couple recommendations:
1. On this topic I think every man has to decide for himself what works best for him. I've got friends who swear by viagra but I've tried a couple times and find it too unreliable. I'm a cialis man and find that 5 mg will do me for a couple days. I went to fill my last prescription for 5 10 mg pills and the pharmacist told me that I could get 30 of the "daily use" tadalafil (generic cialis) forth the same price and they were equivalent. I figured I'd try them and after a couple I sit here with a sore package and a lighter wallet and a grin on my face. . . And I've still got 20+ to go.
2. Over the years I've become a bit of an edgeer (sp?) and cialis is perfect if you're into that. You can start / stop over and over and then when it finally happens its all that and a bag of the best damn chips ever.
1. Do you lose sensation? No.
2. Do you last longer? Yes, for me personally it takes me 50% longer to cum normally.
3. Can you go back to back pretty quickly? I would need a 10-20 minute break, & then be ready.
4. Are there side effects to deal with? Not really, a stuffy nose for me so I keep an afrin bottle nearby.Completely agree with Seeking on answers 1-3. As for side effects (question 4), I've never had a problem with nasal issues but I do usually end up with a sore package afterwards but that's because when I have Dick on Demand I inevitably end up demanding it boldly go where it normally would not be able (great for greek; and sometimes bbfs will occur because I'll convince myself it'll just be this once so I might as well run a marathon rather than a sprint) and forget to lube up for round 3, 4, etc.
Hey guys, I thought its about time I contribute back to the community. Haven't been active on here but still been active in the game. I'm going to post some encounters I've had. All of these have been personal meet ups. Either I won't see them again or I'm just willing to share them.
These will just be a brief description, if anyone wants an in depth review, DM or post on here and I may do so.
Lisapoo.
https://members.seeking.com/member/d72aaf51-2d82-4880-9770-437671bbdf85
Wanted 3 $$ for a "quickie" claiming 15 minutes but she was here for an hr, can't host. Wouldn't budge below 3. Was GFE, all bare with CIP.
Sugarbabyyyy20.
https://members.seeking.com/member/8d6fe6b6-4a82-4f94-9ab5-ded2f7656260
She's been reviewed on here before, if I had known I would have saved myself $1 $$, paid 3. But apparently she'll do 2 $$. Very mechanical and boring and kept holding off on the fun. 3+ hrs.
The Lioness Goddess.
https://members.seeking.com/member/4717b4da-aa00-4072-810b-80436751d397
Attractive photos, a bit bigger in person imo. Very sweet girl, but required cover. Did anal though. 3 $$, hung out for about 2 hrs. Can't host.
Angel.
https://members.seeking.com/member/a1375f8c-b6bc-4fec-8a96-5d9fe4a2e082
Seen her twice a while back. Very sweet girl. Great sex, all bare, GFE, and did anal the second time with CIA. 3 $$-35 $. 4-5 hrs w / multiple rounds. Lives in gainesville though and isn't mobile anymore. Can't host.
Germanbabe.
https://members.seeking.com/member/51ddcbce-24b7-4987-b69c-d876c43e10e4
Seen twice, all bare. Also does anal with CIA both times. 2 rounds. 2-3 hrs. 3 $$. Can't host.
Sultrybabe.
https://members.seeking.com/member/ba01bb09-6260-4fa6-bd08-c52cbfc2b580
Pretty sure she's a LC girl. Doesn't give head but the rest YMMV. $50. Hosted out of hotel room.
BellaRose.
https://members.seeking.com/member/536bc084-f26f-4d13-a9f7-1809d583944c
She agreed to 2 $$ since I was younger and she let me get a pass for that apparently. Made me take an instant oral HIV test to do bare so total was $$5. Was GFE. Also can't host. 2-3 hrs.
Nezzy.
https://members.seeking.com/member/d868bfcf-9d70-447a-b031-f9a26f7a1aa7
She's been reviewed on here before. Seen her 3 x. 1 $$-50. All bare and CIP. She hosted out of her apartment. One round.
Cute_lover93.
https://members.seeking.com/member/e5e7aee4-a6fc-40f5-bb97-be5b505b4ad0
Took some convincing but got her to do bare, no cip though. Not really my cup of tea and the sex was boring. $$$5. Agreed to 2 rounds but did 1. 1-2 hrs. She hosts.
Babygirliriss.
https://members.seeking.com/member/de6210eb-2556-4030-9373-3b9c24067e1f
Didn't look like pics imo. Was heavier. Can't remember the damage but think it was $$5. Wanted a cover. 1 hr. She hosts.
LunaLuvv.
https://members.seeking.com/member/4e8d6587-6905-4f33-8fcd-e77c3ba0b9e4
All bare no CIP, 2 rounds. 3 hrs. Can't host. $$5.
Kay_C.
https://members.seeking.com/member/337bfcd7-b38d-49c2-95c4-d3d42043906d
GFE, All bare. Let me do anal second time. Can host, but was far for me. 3 $$-35 $.
InnovativeSmartness.
https://members.seeking.com/member/3dd8cd4f-16c1-48ca-870b-33dc68f60062
Very sweet, GFE. All bare. CIP. 3 $$. Open for more than one round. Can host.
XJ.
https://members.seeking.com/member/706e737b-fe11-42d0-8846-25b6998aaa77
Very fun, GFE. All bare with CIP. 1-2 hrs. 2 $$. Can host.
LovelyCe.
https://members.seeking.com/member/6dbe95a9-48ce-475f-90fd-375ac3ec10bd
Quick fun. Only done cardate with her as she can not host. Great bbj and all bare as well. CIP first time as she's not on BC anymore. 1 $$50.
That's all for now folks, at least the ones I can find and want to share. Got a couple from SDM I may share later on when I'm bored.
Enjoy.
Oh BTW has anyone ever seen latinmami?
https://members.seeking.com/member/26551c64-5001-4313-860f-2251c5a10d26
If so I'd love to hear about your experience, I've always wondered about her. Willing to share more. Thanks.Thanks for sharing. Your inbox is full, would like to ask you a question.
Before I meet a girl (M&G) or go to a FC meeting, I remove my (1 rear) license plate. This is fine in California, it might not be OK in other jurisdictions. I also have black tape across the VIN # on the windshield of my car.
IK a website where you can give them a plate or VIN # (and $40) and you get the full ownership of the vehicle.
Can you advise about what you exactly do w / your filter, that keeps you safe but satisfied the POT?As for filters, I find something on snapchat that changes facial features enough not to be recognized on one of those photo search sites. Usually it's a filter that firms up the jawline and cheeks for more of an angular or squared jaw look if that makes sense but it doesn't look too fake for the POT to call BS. And if they do I just tell turn it around on them and ask for them to send a real non filtered pic and that usually settles it because 99% of those girls won't send something that doesn't look like they have 5 layers of makeup on or some kind of filter. It seems like a fair amount of the girls I've talked to on there are trying to stay discreet as well as they have jobs, in a relationship, or kids.
LouisHernandez
03-29-23, 12:52
I am not sure where to put this post, but I put it here because it started out in a sugar baby situation and I would love a little advice. I have been sugaring for about 8 years. Usually have 2-3 going at once and have had a few winners and a couple of flops. Most of the advice that I have used, I got from this website.
Current situation. I am 53 years old and one of my currents (9-10 months) has recently started an only fans account. This has allowed her (27 year old) to quit one of her two jobs and she has been making pretty good money at it. Most of her requests lately have been to fuck on camera. She asked me to be the guy in the video and she has managed to keep my face and voice out of her production. Since we started this. Her account has tripled. Not because of me, but because the demand for that is much greater than just nudes and masturbation. She suggested to me that maybe I look into Viagra or Cialis to be able to go twice back to back. This would us allow to film a couple of videos per session. I have never partaken of the stuff and was wanting some feedback. My questions are:
1. Do you lose sensation?
2. Do you last longer?
3. Can you go back to back pretty quickly?
4. Are there side effects to deal with?
I had my physical a week ago and got a prescription, but have not filled it. It feels like from my end, that there is no downside.This is the classic YMMV. Everyone is different. The dosage is important, you want to take the minimum amount of these medications to achieve the best results. If you take too much you'll just get hard and never cum. There are side effects with everything. I think Viagra overtime will cause blindness actually.
LouisHernandez
03-29-23, 13:12
As for filters, I find something on snapchat that changes facial features enough not to be recognized on one of those photo search sites. Usually it's a filter that firms up the jawline and cheeks for more of an angular or squared jaw look if that makes sense but it doesn't look too fake for the POT to call BS. And if they do I just tell turn it around on them and ask for them to send a real non filtered pic and that usually settles it because 99% of those girls won't send something that doesn't look like they have 5 layers of makeup on or some kind of filter. It seems like a fair amount of the girls I've talked to on there are trying to stay discreet as well as they have jobs, in a relationship, or kids.What sites do you recommend that will run these sorts of filters on your photos?
What sites do you recommend that will run these sorts of filters on your photos?Quick, easy and free. It's not fool proof but if you find a good filter it will work and not match with your real photos online.
2me4Looking2
03-29-23, 14:55
Like others, I tested with a photo I normally share and it found some matches. It won't let me see where they are from without paying though. I did click on the link to have my pics removed, but you have to do that for each individual result and I have no idea if they will really honor that request. I used to only share fake photos and then I lost 2 SB's I really wanted to see because they were upset that I used a fake pic. Not sure what I'll do going forward.
There is a link where you can upload a pic as well as an anonymized version of your I'd and they will supposedly stop showing any results for your face. I gave it a shot and removed all info from my DL other than my name and photo. Hoping I'm not making it worse.I submitted the request to not have my face indexed and got a notice that it was approved. I did a test with a different photo and this time it didn't find any hits for me, but found several that looked somewhat similar to me. I suspect this is going to become a game of whack-a-mole as more of these sites start to appear.
If you decide to go through with submitting the request, you do need to upload a copy of your driver's license however you redact all of the identifiable information. You could even edit your name using a photo editor, but I didn't do that.
LouisHernandez
03-29-23, 17:26
I submitted the request to not have my face indexed and got a notice that it was approved. I did a test with a different photo and this time it didn't find any hits for me, but found several that looked somewhat similar to me. I suspect this is going to become a game of whack-a-mole as more of these sites start to appear.
If you decide to go through with submitting the request, you do need to upload a copy of your driver's license however you redact all of the identifiable information. You could even edit your name using a photo editor, but I didn't do that.I can't think pimeyes will be unique in this technology, but at least it's a paywall service.
I will say that back in the day it was alot easier to find info via phone numbers and / or pics. Reverse google search seemed much better than it is today, and you could enter a SBs phone number into facebook and get her fb page every time. You can still find people but it's a lot harder.
I loath all these damn pic filters women use b/c the catfish risk is so much higher. If I don't see some up close and personal unfiltered pics in a dating bio, I assume the worst and avoid.
I just got a call from a former sugar baby that I had seen for maybe 4-6 weeks who I stopped seeing a couple of weeks ago. She said that she is pregnant with my kid and wants an abortion, but she's only willing to do a surgical abortion where she's under anesthesia in North Carolina. She's asking for $3200 for the procedure. And she refuses to take the abortion pill or any other procedure.
I want to believe her, but I'm worried that I'm being scammed. Does anyone have advice on what I should do?
I just got a call from a former sugar baby that I had seen for maybe 4-6 weeks who I stopped seeing a couple of weeks ago. She said that she is pregnant with my kid and wants an abortion, but she's only willing to do a surgical abortion where she's under anesthesia in North Carolina. She's asking for $3200 for the procedure. And she refuses to take the abortion pill or any other procedure.
I want to believe her, but I'm worried that I'm being scammed. Does anyone have advice on what I should do?That rate seems double for the procedure in the few google results I checked.
Not saying she's lying, but I would ask for a pregnancy test at minimal. After that, you can decide how far you want to take it.
Is she threatening you? Wants to out you? Etc. ?
Airmantroy
03-30-23, 09:48
I just got a call from a former sugar baby that I had seen for maybe 4-6 weeks who I stopped seeing a couple of weeks ago. She said that she is pregnant with my kid and wants an abortion, but she's only willing to do a surgical abortion where she's under anesthesia in North Carolina. She's asking for $3200 for the procedure. And she refuses to take the abortion pill or any other procedure.
I want to believe her, but I'm worried that I'm being scammed. Does anyone have advice on what I should do?If you saw her 4-6 weeks, then she obviously had a cycle somewhere in there. 28 days is 28 days. Do the math and see if it's possible. If it's within possibility then tell her you're paying, you decide where and what she has done. $400 for the pill at a clinic south of Atlanta.
I just got a call from a former sugar baby that I had seen for maybe 4-6 weeks who I stopped seeing a couple of weeks ago. She said that she is pregnant with my kid and wants an abortion, but she's only willing to do a surgical abortion where she's under anesthesia in North Carolina. She's asking for $3200 for the procedure. And she refuses to take the abortion pill or any other procedure.
I want to believe her, but I'm worried that I'm being scammed. Does anyone have advice on what I should do?Man it sounds like you are in a pickle. You hear about women all the time planning an exit strategy as a way to cash out on an arrangement so they can come out ahead. I try to follow common sense. Who would want to travel 2-3 states away for a surgical procedure that's invasive instead of just popping a pill? Then the cost seems high, extremely high. Almost seems as if she expected more money out of the arrangement, it ended abruptly and now she's trying to make sure she makes her bank and cash you out. Tread carefully. Ripper.
I just got a call from a former sugar baby that I had seen for maybe 4-6 weeks who I stopped seeing a couple of weeks ago. She said that she is pregnant with my kid and wants an abortion, but she's only willing to do a surgical abortion where she's under anesthesia in North Carolina. She's asking for $3200 for the procedure. And she refuses to take the abortion pill or any other procedure.
I want to believe her, but I'm worried that I'm being scammed. Does anyone have advice on what I should do?It seems highly suspicious to me. I would take her to a pregnancy test place and make sure she is pregnant. Nowadays, they can also do DNA test. I think she just wants to scam you.
That's the problem with these SBs. So shortage of scams in their mind. A friend of mine faced similar situation 10+ years ago. He spent so much money on the kid and loved the boy as his own. Turned out the kid was from someone else, she just needed someone who is reliable and makes money to take care of her and the money. Found out about it after asking for DNA test. So first, check her pregnancy. Second, ask for DNA. They can check DNA inside mother.
P.S. I really want to have a child. If I were in that situation, I would ask her to keep the baby. But that's my situation.
HighPockets64
03-30-23, 15:01
I just got a call from a former sugar baby that I had seen for maybe 4-6 weeks who I stopped seeing a couple of weeks ago. She said that she is pregnant with my kid and wants an abortion, but she's only willing to do a surgical abortion where she's under anesthesia in North Carolina. She's asking for $3200 for the procedure. And she refuses to take the abortion pill or any other procedure.
I want to believe her, but I'm worried that I'm being scammed. Does anyone have advice on what I should do?Man you guys that haven't done it yet- Get Fixed!! I have no worries about this. I know it isn't mine because mine are blanks!!
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