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[Nephilim3000]

Hey moron, you said you put him in your ignore list remember? So how the hell would you know where or when he posts ANYTHING? You tell so many tales you can't keep your lies straight can you?You let me know when you want to meet up in person and we will toast. I will send shots to your table. Cheers.

[SlamDunkChamp]

Model: Sooni.

Looks: MILF spinner. See attached picture. The picture might be a good photoshopped representation of Sooni. Flat chest, and she doesn't appear to work out.

Attitude: Sucked. All business like. Handshake? I'm surprised she didn't say pay up front. Was short on time. Estimated got about 35 to 40 minutes.

Services: Handshake. Then I initiated LFK'd. OK BBBJ, DATY and various other positions. You can PM for details if you like. Usually I'm good at sugar coating constructive criticism, however in Sooni's case it might be a challenge. I see potential; Sooni just needs to change her attitude slightly and not conspire with the house mama to short customers on the hour time frame and she could be good. Will NOT repeat anytime soon with Sooni.

Other Notes: Because of the inconsistent timers; I will avoid this place for a while. It's too bad, because I really like Nina. Nina is on my RRL, and i wanted to see Nina again. However because the house mama doesn't know how to tell time, and I don't feel like wasting my time; probably just go some where else.

Question: What is up with the inconsistent timers? One time it's 50 minutes and next time it's only 35 minutes?


A few days ago I walked into Gogo Spa to check out the line up, there was not anything worth staying for, so I went to Top Spa. Mama said Sooni was available now, and Nina would be in 15 minutes. Well I didn't want to wait around, so I paid the HF and waited in the room.

About a minute later Sooni entered the room, and offered a handshake. Oh oh shit! I knew thus was going bad. A handshake at an AMP is the fuckin red flag. I should have bailed, because things only got worse.

Sooni is a small Korean lady. Her age is late 40's but she could be older. She has ays with a small pot belly. Her skin is not smooth, when I tried to hug her I could feel lumps or scars on her back not sure because the room was dark. Went to the uneventful TS. I should have took the standup self shower. Back in the room, Sooni attempted a lame massage that I stopped. Then she began a lame BBBJ. Maybe I should have stayed with the massage? Or maybe I should have bailed when she shook my hand. She has stubbles on pussy with patch of fuzz on top. DATY for a couple minutes, then said too ticklish. Red Flag 2 was no DATY rule because to ticklish. Sooni then put the cover on and proceeded to CG which was lame up down motion. Because she wasn't doing much I told her I would go on top. She was a dead fish with fake moans. Red flag 3 was the mama called at about the 35 minute mark. I told her "wow that was quick, we hardly got started. " Sooni got upset and said "it been an hour!" I told her I got her at 5:30 and we started at 5:35 and it is now 6:05, and showed her the time on my watch, she got upset and said "its not me, it's mama fault!" By this time I'm like fuck it. I didn't feel it was worth arguing over. I got dressed as she stood there arms crossed. I told her that this short change on time is BS. Sooni is right the mama is a fault but Sooni is part of the problem for conspiring with the mama's plot. Sooni could have told the mama that it wasn't time yet but she didn't. I should have went to Happiness or CHM.

Looks: face: 4 body: 3.

Attitude: 0.

Service: 3.

Overall: 3. 33333 Would not repeat.


Sooni was a polite lady during introduction. One good thing is she doesn't have a routine and if you like you can take the lead. Sooni is and older Korean lady. Not a hard body, but she is petite. By looking at the picture I was expecting a young hot girl. I am not sure if you all like being deceive by a fake pictures, but I am not a fan of fake pictures. Sooni is about 5'0" tall with flat Ay cups. She is fair skin with some cellulite around the thighs and flat butt. She has small curved hips but a flat butt.

The great thing is she is a spinner. Not sure how it is possible but she is a spinner that is soft with cellulite. Sooni has dark brown hair with the front trimmed shorter in bangs. Looks like an asian doll. In the dark room Sooni looks like she is in her late 40's, but factor in that she is asian, and most asian ladies appear younger than they actually are, she is mist likely a decade older. Plus the room was dark too, therefore you could factor in another decade. One thing good is there was no LFK or DFK because she did she has some breath that needed brushing. As much as possible I tried to dodge her kisses. Sooni does have a slight pooch by her belly and she has shaved pussy but with a small Bush on top. She needs a lot of lube for all you lube fans that enjoy covered sex.

Attitude is appear to not enjoy sex, but she appears to enjoy wanting to take your money in half hour sessions. One good thing is she is a actress.

Service was handshake. BBBJ some BSL. No rim job. CFS is GC, RCG Mish. It's hard to describe but Sooni moans like a FOB Japanese Asian porn star. So if you are a fan of Japanese porn star moaning then you need to see her. Her attitude and service were like fucking a FOB Japanese porn star. One important note is she is not Japanese according to what she said. Sooni said she was Korean. Sooni spoke Korean to the mama and a co-worker about what's for dinner. Mama called time at about the 35 minute mark minus 5 minute shower. Therefore If you like spending two hundred dollars for 30 minutes total, then you should see Sooni real soon.Like EroticaFan said, DrMajikLuv aka Nephilim aka ProfessorGun (& more like Hitch22, etc) are so transparent that it's just plain comedic.

DrMajikLuv, Nephilim and ProfessorGun basically all wrote the same negative review on Sooni at Top Spa as posted above. All three complain about getting 35 minutes. DrMajikLuv and ProfessorGun both specifically write that Sooni "conspired" with mama to short their time. I mean, are you serious?

Then there's the obvious writing style. While most posters try to write Dcup Ccup or Bcup in ways that won't get autocorrected, DrMajikLuv is the only guy who unnecessarily does the same for A cups by writing "Ay cup" or "Ays" and so do Nephilim and ProfessorGun when describing Sooni's tits. Coincidence, I think not. They are also the only guys who seem to refer to rim jobs as "deep oil checks".

It's getting to the point where it's too pathetic to laugh at anymore. Like he might need actual help for real?

[ProfessorGun69]

Slam Dunk Champ you have been addressed many times here a few months ago.


I was only spreading the word, while you make up bullshit LIES, just because you think you advertise for TOP SPA, ROSES, NIRVANA, TOKYO SPA too name a few and all of your shill accounts: SLAM DUNK CHUMP, KIM CHEE HU, KING be, TTTWISTA, and who knows how many more, that you can control this board, with your bullshit LIES FUCK YOU PUNK!!


Speaking of assholes, this punk moderates the Happiness thread and now he has started deleting all or most of the positive postings, just because he doesn't like them! Seems to me that he is trying to destroy her business! I don't understand why the administration lets him get away with it! Pisses me off that he deleted my first post for no reason!


Why don't you try sticking to reporting on experiences you have actually had? You guys are not very good at writing fiction and clearly have an agenda. Over and over, you and several others have made it clear that you don't like Happy or her AMP. That's one thing. It does make your bullshit that much more ironic and transparent when you spend more time writing about a place, which by self admission, you never visit, than contributing actual credible reports. LOL that is crazy Slam Dunk Champ. Just thought you would like to read this post before you make any false accusations. I am not DrMajik nor Nephilim nor Hitch. Yes I admire the DrMajik and I am jealous of how many chicks he bangs. I may have copied some of the words he uses, but I am not him. MattSurf and a few others mongers have used the same words but I think they are there own.


L-8.

A-10.

S-10.

Got there right at my appt but was in a rush so had to skip the shower. Right to a Mutual touching, lots of PRS, and then to BBBJ, with rimming and oil check (deep). Played with her pussy and then felt like she wanted to go without cover so pretty sure that's available. Opted for one and then ACG. Didn't even make it to mish or DS. So wet but probably was prelube. Great attitude and loves sex but she kept the light really low. Has a a great ass, legs, and tits. Love her PRS, makes me feel like a young stud. LOL.There are other members that use "oil check" which is a common sex term for rimming. That doesn't mean they are the same person. I have nothing more to say about this.

[Scott4]

Like EroticaFan said, DrMajikLuv aka Nephilim aka ProfessorGun (& more like Hitch22, etc) are so transparent that it's just plain comedic.

DrMajikLuv, Nephilim and ProfessorGun basically all wrote the same negative review on Sooni at Top Spa as posted above. All three complain about getting 35 minutes. DrMajikLuv and ProfessorGun both specifically write that Sooni "conspired" with mama to short their time. I mean, are you serious?

Then there's the obvious writing style. While most posters try to write Dcup Ccup or Bcup in ways that won't get autocorrected, DrMajikLuv is the only guy who unnecessarily does the same for A cups by writing "Ay cup" or "Ays" and so do Nephilim and ProfessorGun when describing Sooni's tits. Coincidence, I think not. They are also the only guys who seem to refer to rim jobs as "deep oil checks".

It's getting to the point where it's too pathetic to laugh at anymore. Like he might need actual help for real?Well said buddy.

[EroticaFan]

So you hate the doc and thus put him on ignore, then you find ways to view his posts anyway? Ok that makes total sense.

Also, you probably shouldn't ask someone if he's literate if you can't spell yourself. "Masterbate"? You keep embarassing yourself whether you use this alias or the doc's. Dumbshit.


You are a dumb fuck. Are you literate? Do you understand English? There are many ways around this bottom boy. Go read all your post. The truth is have never fucked a woman nor reported on fucking one, because the truth is you rent a closet in your auntie's house and masterbate while reading other mongers' reports.

[EroticaFan]

Yup, couldn't have said it better myself. He is either a really incompetent con artist or a psycho b*tch with personality disorders that need professional help.


Like EroticaFan said, DrMajikLuv aka Nephilim aka ProfessorGun (& more like Hitch22, etc) are so transparent that it's just plain comedic.

DrMajikLuv, Nephilim and ProfessorGun basically all wrote the same negative review on Sooni at Top Spa as posted above. All three complain about getting 35 minutes. DrMajikLuv and ProfessorGun both specifically write that Sooni "conspired" with mama to short their time. I mean, are you serious?

Then there's the obvious writing style. While most posters try to write Dcup Ccup or Bcup in ways that won't get autocorrected, DrMajikLuv is the only guy who unnecessarily does the same for A cups by writing "Ay cup" or "Ays" and so do Nephilim and ProfessorGun when describing Sooni's tits. Coincidence, I think not. They are also the only guys who seem to refer to rim jobs as "deep oil checks".

It's getting to the point where it's too pathetic to laugh at anymore. Like he might need actual help for real?

[Bulgogi Boy]

Gay insults. Ooh ouch. Is it 1990 again or is poster 16 yo?

Next up: mom insults.

Moms are off limits, always have been, always will be. Aunts and sisters are ok though.

A2I spit my coffee out when I read "aunts and sisters. " Thanks for the laugh!

[Viet Whisperer]

As of today, I want to officially announce that I am retiring from the hobby. I have found a girlfriend. It was a great experience this past year. To those that enjoyed the informational unbiased honest detailed reports I wrote. Good luck to you all.Retiring all the screen names or just this one? Not buying it personally.

[SlamDunkChamp]

Slam Dunk Champ you have been addressed many times here a few months ago.Yet another tell of the doc and his aliases. They write the title of their post, then the first sentence of that post they put what they wrote in the title again word for word. Yup, there's no doubt ProfessorGun is DrMajikLuv.

[Jaritsuh]

Retiring all the screen names or just this one? Not buying it personally.What other screen names does this guy use besides what everyone know to be bull. And I hope none of the massage parlor mama's are paying this guy to write about them. That would add insult to injury. Guys like this don't know how to quit when they ahead. Just thinking. Aloud.

[Hitch22]

This site most definitely not like the old sfredbook. Too much estrogen.

[EroticaFan]

Riiggghhhttt. What will your new screen name be? Or which of your other aliases will you be posting under?


As of today, I want to officially announce that I am retiring from the hobby. I have found a girlfriend. It was a great experience this past year. To those that enjoyed the informational unbiased honest detailed reports I wrote. Good luck to you all.

[Nephilim3000]

Yup, couldn't have said it better myself. He is either a really incompetent con artist or a psycho b*tch with personality disorders that need professional help.You're an idiot Rot icaFan I already told you psychotic. Read the post from a few days ago. I called you on the illiterate topic, so why are you biting fuck head? You would never want to meet me by yourself tampon boy!

[EroticaFan]

You're an idiot Rot icaFan I already told you psychotic. Read the post from a few days ago. I called you on the illiterate topic, so why are you biting fuck head? You would never want to meet me by yourself tampon boy!Hey psycho doc, here's a suggestion for your new screen name: JDahmer. As in Jeffrey Dahmer, the serial cannibal with a sexual appetite (literally) for boys.

[Ck813]

It really pisses me off when members of this forum pm me asking for info on the providers I see and I give them name, location, numbers the whole 9 yards and then when I ask them they tell me sorry can't tell because they don't want to lose their gems. Then I see these guys posting about roaming and crap but no like give up the providers. Fkn unreal!

[SquirtLuva69]

It really pisses me off when members of this forum pm me asking for info on the providers I see and I give them name, location, numbers the whole 9 yards and then when I ask them they tell me sorry can't tell because they don't want to lose their gems. Then I see these guys posting about roaming and crap but no like give up the providers. Fkn unreal!I know. Some find the time to ask and receive our info, but won't answer when we in turn ask them. Hate that too.

[Shengnu888]

I know. Some find the time to ask and receive our info, but won't answer when we in turn ask them. Hate that too.Sometimes you got to give them the BS to get even and waste their time and money. You guys know who you are. Contribute or don't ask fuckin questions!!

[Larry Hoover]

Sometimes you got to give them the BS to get even and waste their time and money. You guys know who you are. Contribute or don't ask fuckin questions!!Or just state that anyone who contributes can PM you. I've given an assload of people information on the forums, but they act like they went blind when I ask. So fuck them. I'll contribute to anyone whose name I recognize. Everyone else can pound sand.

[Ck813]

Bro, even through pm they say sorry but Thai is my gem so I can't tell you anything after you have them all your gems. These so called fellow members are fkn assholes. I had so many of those already. After the provider leaves the island for good or someone else breaks the info then they like make all good and share. What pricks.


Or just state that anyone who contributes can PM you. I've given an assload of people information on the forums, but they act like they went blind when I ask. So fuck them. I'll contribute to anyone whose name I recognize. Everyone else can pound sand.

[Makana9]

Or just state that anyone who contributes can PM you. I've given an assload of people information on the forums, but they act like they went blind when I ask. So fuck them. I'll contribute to anyone whose name I recognize. Everyone else can pound sand.Totally! I going use pound Sand, never heard that one before. Sounds cool!!

[Memahu]

It's similar to when someone asked you which team to bet on. He will blame you if that team loses, and not give credit when that team wins. You can't win because it's YMMV with providers anyway.

[Cosmic Kid]

It's totally fucking stupid, retarded and self-sabotage when mongers withhold 411! As a general scenario, if you share good intel on a provider or massage therapist, chances are she will subsequently be receiving more business and making more money as a result of your positive advertising for her, she will be happier, and more likely to want to remain on the island. If you don't share intel, all that will accomplish is tend to strangle her business, so that, worst case, she may even end up leaving town to go mainland looking for greener money pastures. In other words, what you're doing is pulling the rug out from under your own feet when you withhold intel on providers! Via your act of not sharing intel, you could actually be contributing to losing the babe you are trying to hold onto! If she has specifically asked you NOT to mention she gives you extras during sessions, that is an entirely different matter and you absolutely need to honor her request; but otherwise, what I just said. This isn't boyfriend-girlfriend. This is monger-provider! The rules are different. The dynamics are different. Fucking retard selfish emotionally insecure mongers who are hoarding intel need to get a clue and take a good hard look at the big picture vis a vis how P4 P functions most effectively for all concerned here in HNL!

[P Venkman]

It's totally fucking stupid, retarded and self-sabotage when mongers withhold 411! As a general scenario, if you share good intel on a provider or massage therapist, chances are she will subsequently be receiving more business and making more money as a result of your positive advertising for her, she will be happier, and more likely to want to remain on the island. If you don't share intel, all that will accomplish is tend to strangle her business, so that, worst case, she may even end up leaving town to go mainland looking for greener money pastures. In other words, what you're doing is pulling the rug out from under your own feet when you withhold intel on providers! Via your act of not sharing intel, you could actually be contributing to losing the babe you are trying to hold onto! If she has specifically asked you NOT to mention she gives you extras during sessions, that is an entirely different matter and you absolutely need to honor her request; but otherwise, what I just said. This isn't boyfriend-girlfriend. This is monger-provider! The rules are different. The dynamics are different. Fucking retard selfish emotionally insecure mongers who are hoarding intel need to get a clue and take a good hard look at the big picture vis a vis how P4 P functions most effectively for all concerned here in HNL!Yeah Loverboys ruin this industry. They don't understand, they need to get laid to stay! (Coming from a former loverboy himself. Fuck them and forget there ***** asses. They are good for stimulation and pussy and sharing about their pussy to the world so they can make that green! They may care about you but the power of the green is much stronger and will win plus they can get a bf anytime that doesn't know about their side business when its done so don't think she'll stick around unless she no more options.).

[SirRegal]

The thing that pisses me off the most is someone with 4 posts to there name all 4 slandering the best provider in town and many's ATF. All on the word of another provider who is in direct competition with Dallas. Dallas is by far the most popular, makes sence the other girls are jealous and talking shit. What would you do? And one last thing, if you been with every girl there WTF are all your reports! You climb out from under your rock to talk shit about Dallas? What is that? Maybe and most likely your a shill for another girl working there or another AMP?You know what it is, its someone who posts regularly but creates a new account to talk shit about a provider. Pretty sad that Dallas came back to Hawaii and there's a couple of people trying to start something with her.

[NotAThrowAway]

You know what it is, its someone who posts regularly but creates a new account to talk shit about a provider. Pretty sad that Dallas came back to Hawaii and there's a couple of people trying to start something with her.Assuming you're talking about RockMan22, I don't really see a problem with his posts (whether it's a new account or someone's alt), since he's only giving his opinion on whether mongers prefer younger or older providers, which everyone have their own preference.

People on the thread treats it like libel by stating Dallas' true age, but I thought the forum was used to share information about providers to others? People are actually giving out false information when they said she's in her 20's, when she's actually in her late 30's. There's a reason why most of the girls (other than the MMS) call her unni. Majority of the monger don't care about age, and will continue to see her (me included) regardless because of her service and attitude. However, just stating facts (whether you want to believe it or not) shouldn't get you bullied on the forums.

[RiverRat22]

Assuming you're talking about RockMan22, I don't really see a problem with his posts (whether it's a new account or someone's alt), since he's only giving his opinion on whether mongers prefer younger or older providers, which everyone have their own preference.

People on the thread treats it like libel by stating Dallas' true age, but I thought the forum was used to share information about providers to others? People are actually giving out false information when they said she's in her 20's, when she's actually in her late 30's. There's a reason why most of the girls (other than the MMS) call her unni. Majority of the monger don't care about age, and will continue to see her (me included) regardless because of her service and attitude. However, just stating facts (whether you want to believe it or not) shouldn't get you bullied on the forums.Quit being a pussy, no one is bullying you. Don't talk shit and no one will jump in your shit.

When Dallas is 50 I will still fuck her. If she is available. I don't give a shit how old she is. It is however a fact that she was not born in 1978. Don't make shit up and people won't call you out on it, its that simple. Your statement about Texas tells me you don't know much about Dallas. Anyone that's actually seen her, knows why they call her Dallas. I never asked her how old she is. But when you see a provider enough, things come out. I usually find out via zodiac talk. But in Dallas' case I saw her license. Her TEXAS license.

[NotAThrowAway]

Quit being a pussy, no one is bullying you. Don't talk shit and no one will jump in your shit.

When Dallas is 50 I will still fuck her. If she is available. I don't give a shit how old she is. It is however a fact that she was not born in 1978. Don't make shit up and people won't call you out on it, its that simple. Your statement about Texas tells me you don't know much about Dallas. Anyone that's actually seen her, knows why they call her Dallas. I never asked her how old she is. But when you see a provider enough, things come out. I usually find out via zodiac talk. But in Dallas' case I saw her license. Her TEXAS license.I've also seen her Hawaii I'd which said 1978. So either you're wrong, or I'm wrong. In the end it's just he says, she says. I'll also fuck her even when she's 50, so what's your point?

[Macko69]

I've also seen her Hawaii I'd which said 1978. To clarify, I don't care how old she is, but I'm just curious about this comment. Under what circumstance would you be looking at her identification card?

[CardSource52]

Just wondering all those who does BBFS, aren't you afraid that you will catch STD or even AIDS? All it takes is one monger with either STD or AIDS to transfer it to a provider. Than since the provider does BBFS will transfer it to other mongers. Than those monger will transfer it to other providers. Than you know where this is going. I'm concerned that one person could ruin it everyone. Just wondering what the mongers who par take on BBFS thoughts on it.

[Cosmic Kid]

Just wondering all those who does BBFS, aren't you afraid that you will catch STD or even AIDS? All it takes is one monger with either STD or AIDS to transfer it to a provider. Than since the provider does BBFS will transfer it to other mongers. Than those monger will transfer it to other providers. Than you know where this is going. I'm concerned that one person could ruin it everyone. Just wondering what the mongers who par take on BBFS thoughts on it.This thread's not really appropriate for this topic. Should have posted in the "Safe Mongering in Honolulu" thread, IMHO.

[SirRegal]

To clarify, I don't care how old she is, but I'm just curious about this comment. Under what circumstance would you be looking at her identification card?You see a girl enough times she opens up to you. Then you run off to the internet and blurt it out to the world. 🙄.

[HonoluluGirl]

I've been online since 2013, and in that short time I have found there are three things I must be upfront about from the beginning: 1. My age, 2. My race, and 3. My location. Any one of these characteristics would be an automatic disqualifier for most, if not all hobbyists. Sure, it's great that I'm good at what I do, and that I look so good doing it, but before we discuss particulars, the hobbyist's preferences / requirements in first three areas must be met. Opinions, anyone? Any other deal breakers or deal makers I have overlooked?

[CardSource52]

This thread's not really appropriate for this topic. Should have posted in the "Safe Mongering in Honolulu" thread, IMHO.Okay. Will do. Thanks.

[Jaritsuh]

You see a girl enough times she opens up to you. Then you run off to the internet and blurt it out to the world. 🙄.I know you pissed but you made my day been having a rough one, most of these providers expect mature men to respect their privacy and her having to prove her age makes me wonder what she was thinking when she shared her I'd with this customer. And Dallas he is a customer. We are all customers, and our business is just that business, you should know better, but your call. I haven't had the pleasure of your company but from all reports you are a excellent provider and I wish you well.

To the guys with ins with this or other providers I hope you had her permission before you spread the age all over the internet so every one knows now how old she is, good job hope you get your just dues next time you visit her. LOL. I am sure you will.

[H Mobius]

Just wondering all those who does BBFS, aren't you afraid that you will catch STD or even AIDS? All it takes is one monger with either STD or AIDS to transfer it to a provider. Than since the provider does BBFS will transfer it to other mongers. Than those monger will transfer it to other providers. Than you know where this is going. I'm concerned that one person could ruin it everyone. Just wondering what the mongers who par take on BBFS thoughts on it.Things are already "ruined". We tend to get complacent with the fact that adult diseases don't make the skin turn bright colors so that you can see who has what.

In this hobby you roll the dice and take your chances; I don't care how much protection you use. It is why some girls won't even kiss.

You can't enjoy a hobby if you worry about what could happen, for instance a surfer who worries about sharks, drowning, slamming onto a rock or getting cut open on coral; then he would need to decide if surfing is the hobby for him.

[CardSource52]

Things are already "ruined". We tend to get complacent with the fact that adult diseases don't make the skin turn bright colors so that you can see who has what.

In this hobby you roll the dice and take your chances; I don't care how much protection you use. It is why some girls won't even kiss.Thanks for your thoughts. I know we are rolling a dice and have met providers who don't kiss. I thought they didn't like me and took it personally. LOL. Now I know so won't take it personally. Aloha.

[Memahu]

Anyone else find any pokemon inside a massage parlor? Was waiting for girl and a pokemon popped up.Did you see Tako Pokemon?

[RiverRat22]

To clarify, I don't care how old she is, but I'm just curious about this comment. Under what circumstance would you be looking at her identification card?To show how a bad a picture they took.

[RiverRat22]

I know you pissed but you made my day been having a rough one, most of these providers expect mature men to respect their privacy and her having to prove her age makes me wonder what she was thinking when she shared her I'd with this customer. And Dallas he is a customer. We are all customers, and our business is just that business, you should know better, but your call. I haven't had the pleasure of your company but from all reports you are a excellent provider and I wish you well.

To the guys with ins with this or other providers I hope you had her permission before you spread the age all over the internet so every one knows now how old she is, good job hope you get your just dues next time you visit her. LOL. I am sure you will.Notice I didn't say how old she is just that she was not born in 1978.

[RiverRat22]

I've also seen her Hawaii I'd which said 1978. So either you're wrong, or I'm wrong. In the end it's just he says, she says. I'll also fuck her even when she's 50, so what's your point?My point is you're full of shit.

[Admin2]

This is still going on? Wow!

Question; I'm not Hawaiian, nor have I ever been to Hawaii. I have watched this thread and seen the movie "Blue Crush" though. What's the deal with Hawaiian guys and fighting? Seems like you guys are willing to throw down over pretty senseless stuff to me. You live in a paradise full of hot women in bikini's yet fighting seems to be the states official pastime.

Any insights?

A2

[DaViper]

This is still going on? Wow!

Question; I'm not Hawaiian, nor have I ever been to Hawaii. I have watched this thread and seen the movie "Blue Crush" though. What's the deal with Hawaiian guys and fighting? Seems like you guys are willing to throw down over pretty senseless stuff to me. You live in a paradise full of hot women in bikini's yet fighting seems to be the states official pastime.

Any insights?

A2Your right it's senseless but I guess it's better than these senseless shooting that's been going on in other areas. Man like they said on the espy last night these senseless shootings need to stop.

[Honolulu808]

This is still going on? Wow!

Question; I'm not Hawaiian, nor have I ever been to Hawaii. I have watched this thread and seen the movie "Blue Crush" though. What's the deal with Hawaiian guys and fighting? Seems like you guys are willing to throw down over pretty senseless stuff to me. You live in a paradise full of hot women in bikini's yet fighting seems to be the states official pastime.

Any insights?

A2It's a myth, stereo typical for most Americans looking a particular race. Majority of the contributors here are not hawaiian, some relocated from else where's while others are born here but family of immigrants from other countries. Such as the movie Blue Crush (written, directed and produced by non hawaiians deplicted hawaiians as trouble makers and always wanting to fight. Well the fighters was non hawaiian and the only hawaiian on the movie, Kala Alexander whom is Hawaiian was the peace keeper. As for me I am 1/4 Hawaiian 3/4 of my family are during the plantation era.

It's all territorial and stereo typing. Fighting it starts from love, territorial and religious reasons.

Usasexguide worldwide Hawaii outnumbers the entire world when it comes to posting online, and hence the discrepancy and bickering between mongers here. There idiots around the world you just see it more in the Hawaii threads.

[DarthTyranus]

This is still going on? Wow!

Question; I'm not Hawaiian, nor have I ever been to Hawaii. I have watched this thread and seen the movie "Blue Crush" though. What's the deal with Hawaiian guys and fighting? Seems like you guys are willing to throw down over pretty senseless stuff to me. You live in a paradise full of hot women in bikini's yet fighting seems to be the states official pastime.

Any insights?

A2I can shed some light on that question on why we fight a lot here. Speaking for those of us who were born and raised in Hawaii, it costs a lot to live here (some of the highest costs in the country), jobs are plentiful but not high paying ones, we struggle to scratch out a living here, and outsiders have driven up the cost of housing, overwhelmed our roads, schools, and are beaches. Plus it doesn't help that the competition for young and attractive women is pretty intense. The transplants, guys from the military, and tourists with a lot of money make it difficult for we local braddahs to compete. And yes race and ethnic differences are a factor for why we local guys are prone to fight.

We live on an island which gets very hot at times. Therefore we local guys are ready to fight at a drop of a hat. Paradise is always paradise when you have to scratch out a living, no can afford to buy pussy, and the guy from California is dating your sister. That's just some of the reasons we Hawaii guys are "punchy".

[Cosmic Kid]

This is still going on? Wow!

Question; I'm not Hawaiian, nor have I ever been to Hawaii. I have watched this thread and seen the movie "Blue Crush" though. What's the deal with Hawaiian guys and fighting? Seems like you guys are willing to throw down over pretty senseless stuff to me. You live in a paradise full of hot women in bikini's yet fighting seems to be the states official pastime.

Any insights?

A2Dude, please! I gave you credit for having more smarts onboard than to base even one iota of your conclusions about Hawaii on the gratuitous dreck of a sleazy Hollywood flick like Blue Crush for goodness sakes! I'd say more but I need to run to the bathroom and puke in the toilet.

[Prjuan]

I outsiders have driven up the cost of housing.It's been interesting to me to notice that the cost of housing had been driven up since the 80's by foreign buyers from Japan, and now from China, yet there doesn't seem to be animosity towards either. I don't think it's the Caucasians aka "Haoles" that are buying the new 20 million dollar condos. Also curious that people would be angry about tourists, since they're would be no economy here without them.

[Memahu]

Did you see Tako Pokemon?

This is a report of Tako Poke at the Koreamoku area for Not Cheap Eats. The Tako Poke here is tender, suckulent, tasty in its juices, and no hairs.

[Memahu]

I can shed some light on that question on why we fight a lot here. It's all about the clicks and views. This thread is the ESPN's First Take of the board. Instead of yelling at each other about sports, we yell at each other about providers. These posts aren't real fights. You can tell there's winking at the camera. As a local hero of these parts would say, "Can you smell what The Rock is cooking?

[Uki Eater]

This is still going on? Wow!

Question; I'm not Hawaiian, nor have I ever been to Hawaii. I have watched this thread and seen the movie "Blue Crush" though. What's the deal with Hawaiian guys and fighting? Seems like you guys are willing to throw down over pretty senseless stuff to me. You live in a paradise full of hot women in bikini's yet fighting seems to be the states official pastime.

Any insights?

A2It's just petty bickering online. It's easier to say certain things online and act a certain way than it is in person. Majority of the members that post in the Hawaii thread, they are not Hawaiians. Hawaii is pretty mild / mellow and for the most part, people in Hawaii are laid back and friendly.

[John Ross]

It's been interesting to me to notice that the cost of housing had been driven up since the 80's by foreign buyers from Japan, and now from China, yet there doesn't seem to be animosity towards either. I don't think it's the Caucasians aka "Haoles" that are buying the new 20 million dollar condos. Also curious that people would be angry about tourists, since they're would be no economy here without them.There is still animosity towards asian and caucasians among the younger generations (20's, 30's). I'm Japanese / caucasian and have been called fukn Jap and fukn haole by locals. I believe the animosity emerges due to the perceived socio-economic divide between the haves and have nots. The haves have somehow wronged the have nots. Some locals bring up the past where their family had all this land and the haoles took it away, or the Japanese bought it from them. That was 100 - 200 years ago. Lots of Japanese had their land and personal possessions taken away in WW2 by the government, and by unscrupulous people. You really don't see them dwelling on the past and they harbor no animus. They just learned to work harder and smarter. The younger generation seems to think everything is owed to them. That they are entitled. Some stores can barely get employees because the kids want to start out at $15/ hr.

But I digress. There is still animosity among locals, asians and caucasians. I feel it and experience it every so often.

[Admin2]

Sorry about the Blue Crush reference, I couldn't think of another movie except the Elvis flick and I figured that was worse.

I got to come there someday and I promise not to date anybodies sister unless she comes to dinner with you and then I will be complimentary but a perfect gentleman.

A2.

[Honolulu808]

Sorry about the Blue Crush reference, I couldn't think of another movie except the Elvis flick and I figured that was worse.

I got to come there someday and I promise not to date anybodies sister unless she comes to dinner with you and then I will be complimentary but a perfect gentleman.

A2.Try looking for the movie The Descendants to get a better picture of Hawaii.

https://youtu.be/Yf8-9MztkRc

At least you didn't make reference to Magnum PI or Hawaii Five-0.

Yea, come and find the cheap dates here, you see the prices we pay, I envy the prices in Argentina. What did you tell me, 2 providers, 3 hours, $50 US.

[MitsFunai]

Only get trouble if people like cause trouble. Nowadays get plenty mental and attitudinal problems (due to lack of education) leading to unemployment, homelessness, perceived entitlements, etc. My attitude toward problematic and disrespectful situations: just ignore and leave; not worth the effort dealing with lackadaisical losers. To be successful no need be smart but need to be one day ahead, work harder, and get along with people. Of course, IMO.

[Viet Whisperer]

Dude, please! I gave you credit for having more smarts onboard than to base even one iota of your conclusions about Hawaii on the gratuitous dreck of a sleazy Hollywood flick like Blue Crush for goodness sakes! I'd say more but I need to run to the bathroom and puke in the toilet.LOL at least he didn't refer to that Nia Peebles movie North Shore! "Don't mess with the Hui Brah!

[Insatiable808]

Wow!! You have quite a hard on for me, don't you baby??

Thanks for all this attention & long winded response.

You're the best!! Keep up the good work!!

This IS the place to get all my financial & stock market advice!!

Thanks for letting guys discuss this subject on the News & Media Reports thread.

Just you, doing a great job of moderating the thread.

You're the best!!

Aloha ('Cause I'm "Hawaiian", NOT).

And NO, I don't want to fight you.

I'm a lover not a fighter of "Behind the Keyboard Tough Guys".

Do what you got to do, 'cause you're so Awesome & SMARTER than everybody else!!

Have a great weekend, Buddy!!

Everybody else.

Be Safe,

Insatiable808.

Thanks for responding in the fight thread I appreciate that.

Have a nice weekend.

A2


Deleted for requesting we stay focused on the subject of the thread??

What was the violation??

Look at the top of the page

"ATTENTION HONOLULU POSTERS
Effective immediately, posters in the Honolulu forum are prohibited from criticizing, complaining about or discussing other forum members.
This restriction includes any speculation regarding another member's suspected aliases or business affiliations.
This restriction is necessary to stop the endlessly pointless rhetoric.
The 1st violation will result in the perpetrator being placed on Permanent Moderation status.
The 2nd violation will result in the perpetrator being permanently banned from the Forum.
I am sure that I will need to ban one or more members before everybody takes this seriously, but I'm tired of dealing with these constant arguments.
Please us the "Report Post" link at the bottom of every post in the forum to advise me of any violations of this restriction."

Two additional questions

1. Did somebody make you a mod while I wasn't looking?
2. Is telling guys to stick to the subject of the thread within the actual subject of the thread? Was there recently a news or media report in Honolulu about "sticking to the subject of the thread on the USASG?"

I didn't think so,

A2

PS You're going to want to respond, I know how you are. Being right or wrong will have no bearing on your desire to respond, you feel challenged right now and you're Hawaiian so you're going to want to fight. Maybe you could kick my ass in reality (you wouldn't be the first) but on this forum I will own you. If you MUST respond, take it to the fight thread or you won't like the outcome.

[RockMan22]

Quit being a pussy, no one is bullying you. Don't talk shit and no one will jump in your shit.

When Dallas is 50 I will still fuck her. If she is available. I don't give a shit how old she is. It is however a fact that she was not born in 1978. Don't make shit up and people won't call you out on it, its that simple. Your statement about Texas tells me you don't know much about Dallas. Anyone that's actually seen her, knows why they call her Dallas. I never asked her how old she is. But when you see a provider enough, things come out. I usually find out via zodiac talk. But in Dallas' case I saw her license. Her TEXAS license.Why is the topic her age when I asked about young versus old. It just happened to be Dallas that I had partake in this past week and from my experience in the interim that she was gone I brought up the fact that I might want to try these younger fingerlings more than an older one. I just asked an opinion on that. I still am going to see Dallas no doubt but the anger about her age I really don't get it. This forum is to post facts and what's the big deal of posting her real age. Its not slander or hurtful to me its sharing information with fellow mongers who might be interested. I am not a new member who just post shit as was implied. I would like to contribute the facts for others too. You know gambling is illegal in Hawaii but if we were in vegas I would lay it all down and give 7's.

[Cosmic Kid]

I've been online since 2013, and in that short time I have found there are three things I must be upfront about from the beginning: 1. My age, 2. My race, and 3. My location. Any one of these characteristics would be an automatic disqualifier for most, if not all hobbyists. Sure, it's great that I'm good at what I do, and that I look so good doing it, but before we discuss particulars, the hobbyist's preferences / requirements in first three areas must be met. Opinions, anyone? Any other deal breakers or deal makers I have overlooked?Okay, baby, none of the other guys have yet responded to your query so I'm going to weigh in. And the fact you posted in the Beef thread gives me more liberty to vent. First, I get why you posted to this thread, seeing as how there's been an ongoing argument raging regarding the age of one of the other providers in town, and your first question has to do with age. Still, IMO you probably should have brought up your questions somewheres else, like in the "General Report" thread, not here.

You say of age, race and location, "Any one of these characteristics would be an automatic disqualifier for most, if not all hobbyists. " What hat did you pull THAT opinion out of pray tell? You sound really down on yourself, as if you've become convinced you already have three strikes against you and now you want us guys to let you know about what other problems you might be up against! I mean, what's going on with that? Usually you sound so positive and objective about life, but now I'm hearing what to me appears to be a surprising amount of negativity. I can't speak for all mongers concerning age, race and location, only for myself. To me personally, age ain't nothing since I'm one of the older guys on this board anyway, and besides, I spend time with and enjoy some providers who are older than you. Race, I think that counts FOR you rather than against you. Practically very other piece of pro ass in this town is Asian and you offer an intriguing change of pace for when I get tired of the K-girl flavor. Also, the fact of you not being FOB but highly articulate, with a shitload of intelligence to boot, I find a great selling point. I was looking forward to being able to pick your brain and find out what interests you in this world. Not only that but I have an idea I could discuss creative sex acts with you, and performing same, in a way which would simply be impossible with the limited vocabulary and weak English comprehension of most of the other pussy talent available in HNL. And as far as your location is concerned, that is a major plus to me as well. I'm very comfortable in the Kaheka Ala Moana area, parking is easy, driving in and out of that area is easy. I feel very safe around there too. I mean, for instance, if you were situated in downtown or Waikiki I wouldn't even think about trying to see you because those areas often pose a serious hassle for parking and traffic. Also, unlike many of the providers who come and go and seem to disappear from the scene, I like that you are very grounded here. I was hoping I could develop something ongoing with you and not suddenly have my time investment ripped off by you splitting for greener pastures elsewhere as other Honolulu sex-workers so often do. So, from my viewpoint, all three points you framed as being disadvantageous to your chosen profession are in fact ADVANTAGES!

But I do have a large problem with you. In my experience and evaluation you are just a tad flaky! Twice I have made appointments with you, two times in a row in fact, and both times when I arrived at your residence, at our agreed upon appointment time, you were not able to see me. Both times your excuses sounded valid. And I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt. In other words I think the reasons you gave were probably sound and you weren't just lying and making up shit excuses. But my beef with you is that I drove across the island, from out in the country to town just to see you, basically wasted my entire day; twice. The least you could have done was to get word to me that you had an emergency to contend with and wouldn't be able to see me as scheduled. But apparently you didn't respect me or my time enough to take this responsibility seriously. In spite of that, I decided to give it one last try a couple weeks ago, and I got back in touch with you. Your response was weird, like you were trying to figure out who I was if I myself was some kind of flake. You also indicated you might get back to me but you never did. And I have heard from other guys who said you've flaked on them too, dropped appointments. So now you are asking what other problems you have. Well, this this it THE BIG ONE; you fucking flake out on us guys. Look, recently Blake123 gave you a glowing review and I've come to greatly trust and respect his opinions about providers. And actually, his review was the main reason I took one final stab at connecting with you. But you blew it yet again! Shit. I continue to believe I might have been able to get a nice little ongoing pay 4 play afternoon delights kind of deal set up with you. But, totally, I no longer trust you and you don't seem to trust me so I just need to forget about you. But yeah, you asked for it, and this is my one complaint and to my mind represents the "deal breaker" you "overlooked".

[Cosmic Kid]

Okay, baby, none of the other guys have yet responded to your query so I'm going to weigh in. And the fact you posted in the Beef thread gives me more liberty to vent. First, I get why you posted to this thread, seeing as how there's been an ongoing argument raging regarding the age of one of the other providers in town, and your first question has to do with age. Still, IMO you probably should have brought up your questions somewheres else, like in the "General Report" thread, not here.

You say of age, race and location, "Any one of these characteristics would be an automatic disqualifier for most, if not all hobbyists. " What hat did you pull THAT opinion out of pray tell? You sound really down on yourself, as if you've become convinced you already have three strikes against you and now you want us guys to let you know about what other problems you might be up against! I mean, what's going on with that? Usually you sound so positive and objective about life, but now I'm hearing what to me appears to be a surprising amount of negativity. I can't speak for all mongers concerning age, race and location, only for myself. To me personally, age ain't nothing since I'm one of the older guys on this board anyway, and besides, I spend time with and enjoy some providers who are older than you. Race, I think that counts FOR you rather than against you. Practically very other piece of pro ass in this town is Asian and you offer an intriguing change of pace for when I get tired of the K-girl flavor. Also, the fact of you not being FOB but highly articulate, with a shitload of intelligence to boot, I find a great selling point. I was looking forward to being able to pick your brain and find out what interests you in this world. Not only that but I have an idea I could discuss creative sex acts with you, and performing same, in a way which would simply be impossible with the limited vocabulary and weak English comprehension of most of the other pussy talent available in HNL. And as far as your location is concerned, that is a major plus to me as well. I'm very comfortable in the Kaheka Ala Moana area, parking is easy, driving in and out of that area is easy. I feel very safe around there too. I mean, for instance, if you were situated in downtown or Waikiki I wouldn't even think about trying to see you because those areas often pose a serious hassle for parking and traffic. Also, unlike many of the providers who come and go and seem to disappear from the scene, I like that you are very grounded here. I was hoping I could develop something ongoing with you and not suddenly have my time investment ripped off by you splitting for greener pastures elsewhere as other Honolulu sex-workers so often do. So, from my viewpoint, all three points you framed as being disadvantageous to your chosen profession are in fact ADVANTAGES!

But I do have a large problem with you. In my experience and evaluation you are just a tad flaky! Twice I have made appointments with you, two times in a row in fact, and both times when I arrived at your residence, at our agreed upon appointment time, you were not able to see me. Both times your excuses sounded valid. And I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt. In other words I think the reasons you gave were probably sound and you weren't just lying and making up shit excuses. But my beef with you is that I drove across the island, from out in the country to town just to see you, basically wasted my entire day; twice. The least you could have done was to get word to me that you had an emergency to contend with and wouldn't be able to see me as scheduled. But apparently you didn't respect me or my time enough to take this responsibility seriously. In spite of that, I decided to give it one last try a couple weeks ago, and I got back in touch with you. Your response was weird, like you were trying to figure out who I was if I myself was some kind of flake. You also indicated you might get back to me but you never did. And I have heard from other guys who said you've flaked on them too, dropped appointments. So now you are asking what other problems you have. Well, this this it THE BIG ONE; you fucking flake out on us guys. Look, recently Blake123 gave you a glowing review and I've come to greatly trust and respect his opinions about providers. And actually, his review was the main reason I took one final stab at connecting with you. But you blew it yet again! Shit. I continue to believe I might have been able to get a nice little ongoing pay 4 play afternoon delights kind of deal set up with you. But, totally, I no longer trust you and you don't seem to trust me so I just need to forget about you. But yeah, you asked for it, and this is my one complaint and to my mind represents the "deal breaker" you "overlooked".I wanted to add a couple of points to my comments to Honolulu Girl, but by the time they occurred to me it was too late to edit my post.

First, about race. As a bonerfied ASS-MAN it is my opinion that you, HG, with a significant percentage of African in your heritage and your awesome ample gorgeous jungle booty thing going on, have got it all OVER the famine of bootyhood in this town, what with the plethora of flat-butt K-girls hogging the limelight hereabouts. And as regards age, as I said, I'm one of the older mongers on this board, and I actually prefer a more mature woman. The young stuff is more apt to hold a bad attitude towards me with regards to my age. And to me, as long as a pussy is sweet, age is nothing but an arbitrary number.

[First Try]

I've been online since 2013, and in that short time I have found there are three things I must be upfront about from the beginning: 1. My age, 2. My race, and 3. My location. Any one of these characteristics would be an automatic disqualifier for most, if not all hobbyists. Sure, it's great that I'm good at what I do, and that I look so good doing it, but before we discuss particulars, the hobbyist's preferences / requirements in first three areas must be met. Opinions, anyone? Any other deal breakers or deal makers I have overlooked?Age Yes, you have been around awhile but from the few reviews of your service you seem to have maintained your appearance & performance.

Race Some guys want variety so there may be a niche for you but remember the majority of the population is Asian.

Location I believe you have guest parking but that entire area includes other AMPs therefore you have competition and mongers have the street smarts to get around even at night.

Missed appointments Wasted my time (twice) after confirming. Others have mentioned you wasted their time. You have responded to me by PM but fool me once shame on you fool me twice shame on me. This is why I have not rescheduled.

[Insatiable808]

Wow!! You have quite a hard on for me, don't you baby??

Thanks for all this attention & long winded response.

You're the best!! Keep up the good work!!

This IS the place to get all my financial & stock market advice!!

Thanks for letting guys discuss this subject on the News & Media Reports thread.

Just you, doing a great job of moderating the thread.

You're the best!!

Aloha ('Cause I'm "Hawaiian", NOT).

And NO, I don't want to fight you.

I'm a lover not a fighter of "Behind the Keyboard Tough Guys".

Do what you got to do, 'cause you're so Awesome & SMARTER than everybody else!!

Have a great weekend, Buddy!!

Everybody else.

Be Safe,

Insatiable808.

Thanks for responding in the fight thread I appreciate that.

Have a nice weekend.

A2Kiss My A $$.

[Cosmic Kid]

There is still animosity towards asian and caucasians among the younger generations (20's, 30's). I'm Japanese / caucasian and have been called fukn Jap and fukn haole by locals. I believe the animosity emerges due to the perceived socio-economic divide between the haves and have nots. The haves have somehow wronged the have nots. Some locals bring up the past where their family had all this land and the haoles took it away, or the Japanese bought it from them. That was 100 - 200 years ago. Lots of Japanese had their land and personal possessions taken away in WW2 by the government, and by unscrupulous people. You really don't see them dwelling on the past and they harbor no animus. They just learned to work harder and smarter. The younger generation seems to think everything is owed to them. That they are entitled. Some stores can barely get employees because the kids want to start out at $15/ hr.

But I digress. There is still animosity among locals, asians and caucasians. I feel it and experience it every so often.Not to disagree with you, JR. I don't doubt all your perceptions are on target. However, for the record, I'll share my albeit limited personal impressions of the cultural tensions, or lack of them, here on Oahu. I'm what I'd guess might be described as a kama'aina coast haole, having moved from the SF Bay Area to the islands some four and a half decades ago. And in my early years here, yes, I do recall a number of unpleasant incidents where I got attitude in my face, even once was assaulted, kidnapped, with a knife to my throat. But I cannot think of any of that kind of shit happening to me for ever so long now, not for a decade or two. Sometimes it even surprises me how invariably I'm treated with nothing but friendly respect by locals young and old. If they're young, I'm "uncle", and if old, I'm "brah". Not saying the tension, prejudice, judgements and attitude aren't still around, just that I haven't encountered that brand of negativity in many years. So at least from my vantage point, the interpersonal vibes have seemingly improved on this rock, and the "aloha spirit" is alive and well. IMHO.

[John Ross]

I guess you are lucky. I've been here since the 90's and the last time I had a run in was about 3 - 4 years ago. I was in downtown picking up a friend in front of A&B and was waiting in my car. I was parked behind a lifted 4 x4 when the owner came to his truck. I guess he didn't like something about my car and he said something like, "You fukn Japs think you own the whole place and can buy anything. " I said, "Pardon me?" And that set him off even more. He said stuff like, "Get off our island and go back where you came from."

[Kagasain]

It really pisses me off when members of this forum pm me asking for info on the providers I see and I give them name, location, numbers the whole 9 yards and then when I ask them they tell me sorry can't tell because they don't want to lose their gems. Then I see these guys posting about roaming and crap but no like give up the providers. Fkn unreal!Usually I try to stay out of this thread, but I agree with everything you just said. I also hate the trolls who try to damage a provider's rep by posting nasty unreal stuff about them.

[Larry Hoover]

I've been online since 2013, and in that short time I have found there are three things I must be upfront about from the beginning: 1. My age, 2. My race, and 3. My location. Any one of these characteristics would be an automatic disqualifier for most, if not all hobbyists. Sure, it's great that I'm good at what I do, and that I look so good doing it, but before we discuss particulars, the hobbyist's preferences / requirements in first three areas must be met. Opinions, anyone? Any other deal breakers or deal makers I have overlooked?I don't think it has as much emphasis as you think. What gets me most is time. I just don't have a lot of time to see providers. Another thing for me is money management. There's literally always something better I could be doing with my money rather than seeing a provider. You for instance, I've wanted to see you for a while. But I don't see providers on impulse. I plan it out in advance. Research, stack up hours at work, make sure I don't have any pressing financial needs to take care of, THEN I see a provider. You're on my list. I'm going to get to that ass eventually. Just keep doing what you're doing. As far as I can tell, you have a more favorable reputation than majority of the providers that are more well-known. From my perspective, the criteria you listed is pretty much negligible. As long as you look good and provide a good experience, you'll have mongers hitting you up.

[AlohaJ]

HG,

In my opinion, everything you mention could cost you business, but that doesn't mean they represent the entire monger demographic. I would say, your location is not an issue, if someone wants to see you, they will take a bus if necessary. Age and race is a factor for all providers, it's not isolated to only you. Some mangers enjoy younger, others older, and so on. It's all about preferences for each person. For ever person who wants a younger provider, there is another who prefers older and the same for race. For me personally, I look to fill a fantasy or some variety and my preference changes. Sometimes I'm looking to ground and pound a young this thing, other times I'm looking for someone who has more experience and will treat me with a little more GFE experience. But the two things I won't go for is wasting time and money, which is why I'm here. I don't get put a lot, so when I do, I ant to experience I'm looking for. If you flake on mongers, it will get around and you will lose business. If you don't provide the expected service, you will get bad reviews. Bottom line, if you provide a quality service for a quality price, you will get customers. It's a basic business model that spands across all services.

[Cosmic Kid]

HG,

In my opinion, everything you mention could cost you business, but that doesn't mean they represent the entire monger demographic. I would say, your location is not an issue, if someone wants to see you, they will take a bus if necessary. Age and race is a factor for all providers, it's not isolated to only you. Some mangers enjoy younger, others older, and so on. It's all about preferences for each person. For ever person who wants a younger provider, there is another who prefers older and the same for race. For me personally, I look to fill a fantasy or some variety and my preference changes. Sometimes I'm looking to ground and pound a young this thing, other times I'm looking for someone who has more experience and will treat me with a little more GFE experience. But the two things I won't go for is wasting time and money, which is why I'm here. I don't get put a lot, so when I do, I ant to experience I'm looking for. If you flake on mongers, it will get around and you will lose business. If you don't provide the expected service, you will get bad reviews. Bottom line, if you provide a quality service for a quality price, you will get customers. It's a basic business model that spands across all services."If you flake on mongers, it will get around and you will lose business. " AlohaJ, you got that right. And IMHO, this is the number ONE problem HG has, not all that other stuff she seems to be worried about. If she hadn't flaked on me twice I'd say it's a good bet I might have ended up seeing her regularly, instead of depositing my monger bucks at the Bank of CHM like I've been doing lately.

[HonoluluGirl]

Scadenfreude is pleasure derived from another person's misfortunes. In previous posts I spoke of my screening process before a person arrives at my door. I have a point of view that most men do not, and that is the point if view of someone who will, in all but rare cases, be physically overpowered by men. And the nature of my activities requires me to be locked in with someone who I cannot outfight. Therefore I must use the information I have to obviate the need to fight by utilizing wit. I suppose mankind has done this for eons or lions and tigers and bears would rule the world. I get my information through observing how I am treated prior to the session. Any sign of disrespect or possible bullying behavior and I won't go through with the session. After the session I read the reviews. If they are negative but honest AND apparently motivated by a desire to benefit the hobby, I am the first one to send the reviewer a pm, guaranteeing I will make the requested changes. Look back on my reviews from a respected senior member who crowned me most improved. But if I get a review that is honest, which is always useful, but is unnecessarily mean, contemptuous, disrespectful, and generally hurtful, this indicates, to me anyway, a delight in hurting me. I will not see that person again for I will not reward Scadenfreude. Am I an alarmist, perhaps overly cautious and sometimes downright wrong? Evidently, yes. But I know no other way to protect myself other than to attempt to discern ill will and avoid it. If I have erred and pulled the plug on a person unecessarily, I'd love to hear from you, if you would like to attempt a fresh start since I really don't know you. In these cases, I am sorry. But if you have a history of gratuitously mean posts, I will exercise my right to refuse anyone service.

So you see, there might be more to "flaking" than meets the eye.

[Viet Whisperer]

Scadenfreude is pleasure derived from another person's misfortunes. In previous posts I spoke of my screening process before a person arrives at my door. I have a point of view that most men do not, and that is the point if view of someone who will, in all but rare cases, be physically overpowered by men. And the nature of my activities requires me to be locked in with someone who I cannot outfight. Therefore I must use the information I have to obviate the need to fight by utilizing wit. I suppose mankind has done this for eons or lions and tigers and bears would rule the world. I get my information through observing how I am treated prior to the session. Any sign of disrespect or possible bullying behavior and I won't go through with the session. After the session I read the reviews. If they are negative but honest AND apparently motivated by a desire to benefit the hobby, I am the first one to send the reviewer a pm, guaranteeing I will make the requested changes. Look back on my reviews from a respected senior member who crowned me most improved. But if I get a review that is honest, which is always useful, but is unnecessarily mean, contemptuous, disrespectful, and generally hurtful, this indicates, to me anyway, a delight in hurting me. I will not see that person again for I will not reward Scadenfreude. Am I an alarmist, perhaps overly cautious and sometimes downright wrong? Evidently, yes. But I know no other way to protect myself other than to attempt to discern ill will and avoid it. If I have erred and pulled the plug on a person unecessarily, I'd love to hear from you, if you would like to attempt a fresh start since I really don't know you. In these cases, I am sorry. But if you have a history of gratuitously mean posts, I will exercise my right to refuse anyone service.

So you see, there might be more to "flaking" than meets the eye.I don't know you and have never attempted to contact you. You have some valid reasoning behind why you won't see someone from what I just read. Why not just tell them you aren't going to see them or that you are canceling? Leaving people hanging or wasting their time is always going to hurt your reputation. If someone told me they had to cancel even if it was for a bs reason in my opinion I would not be upset.

[HonoluluGirl]

Yes, absolutely, I cancel appointments. Back in January I was in a bike accident (I don't drive) and with the injuries and upheavel I am certain things got away from me. I cannot discount the possibility of human error. When I introduced my welI known "practice sessions" in December 2015, the amount of people who contacted me increased 10 fold. More people contacted me than I thought even read my posts / ads. I was absolutely astounded and totally unprepared to convert the flood of demand into face to face contact. A rough, but rewarding winter, especially after the reviews of my new promotions came out. I take full responsibility for any slips. Believe me, I had nothing to gain and everything to lose by missing appointments. If that happened to you, contact me. I believe no one us perfect, but everyone should try to fix errors of imperfection.

There is another factor at work in these recent posts. I have learned that people I don't want to see, or see again, do not go quietly into that good night. I am powerless over individuals who post damaging misinformation because I refused to even make an appointment. I wonʻt name names because no good comes from putting people on blast. Moreover, it is impossible for anyone to deserve negative exposure because I don't have the right to cause people harm. How others treat me is irrelavent to my personal standards for interacting with others. Can you imagine providers getting even with hobbyists who rightfully exercise their discretion and choose different women? What an absurd idea! Welcome to my world. Yet, I think there is a definite bright side. Interested hobbyists will look over the history of the chatty posters, and they will see. Well, I will let them tell you what they see. I just love nerdy types like me who revel in research and who learned the meaning of the word "archive" years before knowing how to pronounce it!

[Admin2]

Why do so many of you guys insist on wasting your time?

Yes, there are a few trolls here that keep making new users. It's what happens with free forums. Why do some of you guys insist on "calling them out?" You know I'll take care of it if you clue me in. If it's a shill I'll "edit" their reports. If it's a troll and I'm not understanding that they are a troll and you explain why and I agree I'll run them.

Read the restrictions in the yellow part above. This dickweed is really good at getting you to break them. Don't. Just report the post.

A2

[Cosmic Kid]

Scadenfreude is pleasure derived from another person's misfortunes. In previous posts I spoke of my screening process before a person arrives at my door. I have a point of view that most men do not, and that is the point if view of someone who will, in all but rare cases, be physically overpowered by men. And the nature of my activities requires me to be locked in with someone who I cannot outfight. Therefore I must use the information I have to obviate the need to fight by utilizing wit. I suppose mankind has done this for eons or lions and tigers and bears would rule the world. I get my information through observing how I am treated prior to the session. Any sign of disrespect or possible bullying behavior and I won't go through with the session. After the session I read the reviews. If they are negative but honest AND apparently motivated by a desire to benefit the hobby, I am the first one to send the reviewer a pm, guaranteeing I will make the requested changes. Look back on my reviews from a respected senior member who crowned me most improved. But if I get a review that is honest, which is always useful, but is unnecessarily mean, contemptuous, disrespectful, and generally hurtful, this indicates, to me anyway, a delight in hurting me. I will not see that person again for I will not reward Scadenfreude. Am I an alarmist, perhaps overly cautious and sometimes downright wrong? Evidently, yes. But I know no other way to protect myself other than to attempt to discern ill will and avoid it. If I have erred and pulled the plug on a person unecessarily, I'd love to hear from you, if you would like to attempt a fresh start since I really don't know you. In these cases, I am sorry. But if you have a history of gratuitously mean posts, I will exercise my right to refuse anyone service.

So you see, there might be more to "flaking" than meets the eye.HG baby, what you wrote is nothing but fucking long-winded beside-the-point bullshit obfuscation, in Cosmic Kid's most groveling and humble opinion. I mean, honey-pants, you conclude your circuitous meandering driveling commentary with, "So you see, there might be more to flaking than meets the eye. " Well, no, not really! Actually the definition of "flaking" is straightforward and not psycho-twitch at all: If you agree to see someone, and the two of you agree to an appointment time, and then subsequently you ditch without explanation or warning, THIS is what is meant by "flaking", pure and fucking simple, none of the shit you said about lions and tigers or whatever else metaphors applies here. If you of your own free will agree to do something with someone, then you bail on them, this is a clear breach of TRUST on your part. It's like that old Peanuts cartoon. You guys remember that one? Lucy holds the football for Charley Brown and he runs to kick but that ***** pulls the ball and Charley Brown falls on his ass? No matter how many times Peanuts ran variations on that cartoon theme it was always funny! End of story. I'm done with this convo.

CK out!

[Viet Whisperer]

Yes, absolutely, I cancel appointments. Back in January I was in a bike accident (I don't drive) and with the injuries and upheavel I am certain things got away from me. I cannot discount the possibility of human error. When I introduced my welI known "practice sessions" in December 2015, the amount of people who contacted me increased 10 fold. More people contacted me than I thought even read my posts / ads. I was absolutely astounded and totally unprepared to convert the flood of demand into face to face contact. A rough, but rewarding winter, especially after the reviews of my new promotions came out. I take full responsibility for any slips. Believe me, I had nothing to gain and everything to lose by missing appointments. If that happened to you, contact me. I believe no one us perfect, but everyone should try to fix errors of imperfection.

There is another factor at work in these recent posts. I have learned that people I don't want to see, or see again, do not go quietly into that good night. I am powerless over individuals who post damaging misinformation because I refused to even make an appointment. I wonʻt name names because no good comes from putting people on blast. Moreover, it is impossible for anyone to deserve negative exposure because I don't have the right to cause people harm. How others treat me is irrelavent to my personal standards for interacting with others. Can you imagine providers getting even with hobbyists who rightfully exercise their discretion and choose different women? What an absurd idea! Welcome to my world. Yet, I think there is a definite bright side. Interested hobbyists will look over the history of the chatty posters, and they will see. Well, I will let them tell you what they see. I just love nerdy types like me who revel in research and who learned the meaning of the word "archive" years before knowing how to pronounce it!Like Cosmic Kid said I don't think you are getting the point and all the long winded musings is really not helping your case. It's simple keep appointments or notify people if you need to cancel for any reason. It's just good business. If you fix that you won't continue to deal with the flake term. People give providers many chances in general. A few recent mentions that you've fixed this issue and you can put it behind you.

[AlohaJ]

I will have to agree with Cosmic Kid on this one. Canceling an appointment and simply not showing up are two completely different things. Again this is my opinion. Calling someone and explaining to them your situation or issue and telling them they may want to seek someone else shows respect for the client and their time. Simply not showing up or failing to answer your door is completely disrespectful and to be honest pretty damn rude. I'm pretty sure If someone makes an appointment with you and doesn't show up, you get made and will likely black list them, because your time is money. The same goes for your clients. Some plan for weeks, sometimes taking time off work to meet the lady they want to see, and I would not blame them at all if they get angry and post not so nice things. You earn respect by giving respect.

[Memahu]

Saw the YouTube of Korean plastic surgery and was amazed. Go check it out. Those MDs are magicians. Ugly ducking turning into beautiful swans. Made me wonder how many girls in this business have had surgery on their faces, in addition to getting some bolt-ons, and what they look like before.Is that why they provide better service because of insecurities of their original facial features?

[RiverRat22]

What a bunch of fucking drama queens! Monica is in no way depressed, I didn't hear anything about it during my session. Some of you guys almost take the plus out of even perusing this board. Almost. Nothing about that picture compromised Monica. It did give people a good idea of what they're going to get if they want to see her. And to all the many guys giving me thumbs up PM's Thank You!

[Viet Whisperer]

What a bunch of fucking drama queens! Monica is in no way depressed, I didn't hear anything about it during my session. Some of you guys almost take the plus out of even perusing this board. Almost. Nothing about that picture compromised Monica. It did give people a good idea of what they're going to get if they want to see her. And to all the many guys giving me thumbs up PM's Thank You!I've been with her and I wouldn't be able to tell you that was her if someone didn't say it. The pic doesn't show much. Any pic she allows is probably going to show up someday somewhere. Now that Sweet sisters pic is a whole different ballgame!

[RiverRat22]

I've been with her and I wouldn't be able to tell you that was her if someone didn't say it. The pic doesn't show much. Any pic she allows is probably going to show up someday somewhere. Now that Sweet sisters pic is a whole different ballgame!I intentionally picked one that made it impossible to identify her. I along with many others have much more exposed pics, that if we truly were all fucking dickheads we would post them. Which Sweet sisters pic? You mean Nikki's sister?

[Goser]

What a bunch of fucking drama queens! Monica is in no way depressed, I didn't hear anything about it during my session. Some of you guys almost take the plus out of even perusing this board. Almost. Nothing about that picture compromised Monica. It did give people a good idea of what they're going to get if they want to see her. And to all the many guys giving me thumbs up PM's Thank You!Actually, the only thing it does is give us an idea of what an idiot you are. I think that Monica should post a picture of you on this message board and see how you like it. I'll bet you wouldn't be happy about it.

I haven't seen Monica in over 5 years. That a really tight body for an older provider. How old is Monica now? She must be pushing 60.

[Viet Whisperer]

I intentionally picked one that made it impossible to identify her. I along with many others have much more exposed pics, that if we truly were all fucking dickheads we would post them. Which Sweet sisters pic? You mean Nikki's sister?Yes. That one you can easily tell who they are. I agree with you about not being dickheads as I have quite a few pics / vids I would never think of posting myself. Before the pm flood starts they aren't of Monica or Nikki and no I won't send them to you LOL.

[HonoluluGirl]

HG baby, what you wrote is nothing but fucking long-winded beside-the-point bullshit obfuscation, in Cosmic Kid's most groveling and humble opinion. I mean, honey-pants, you conclude your circuitous meandering driveling commentary with, "So you see, there might be more to flaking than meets the eye. " Well, no, not really! Actually the definition of "flaking" is straightforward and not psycho-twitch at all: If you agree to see someone, and the two of you agree to an appointment time, and then subsequently you ditch without explanation or warning, THIS is what is meant by "flaking", pure and fucking simple, none of the shit you said about lions and tigers or whatever else metaphors applies here. If you of your own free will agree to do something with someone, then you bail on them, this is a clear breach of TRUST on your part. It's like that old Peanuts cartoon. You guys remember that one? Lucy holds the football for Charley Brown and he runs to kick but that ***** pulls the ball and Charley Brown falls on his ass? No matter how many times Peanuts ran variations on that cartoon theme it was always funny! End of story. I'm done with this convo.

CK out!The operative word is "if. " Yes, "if" I agreed that would be true. But I don't know how you could speak of your personal experiences with me, when I don't see you. I don't stand you up. I don't make you wait. I simply don't want to see you. And I told you that. Politely, professionally, via PM, which is the same way you PM me. You might want to mention your veritable behind the scenes campaign to see me and I have always declined. I would never use a public forum like this to have that conversation, but you got a bee in your bonnet about me and did one of your unexpected posts. With all of the negative things you have said about me, although you only saw me once, circa 2014, why would you want to make an appointment, and why would you expect a targeted person to agree to see you? Anyone who looks over your history of posts about me will probably understand that I wanted to spend my time doing anything but seeing you. Lambasting someone who is not interested in meeting with you might be counterproductive if you wanted a fresh start.

Summary: CK's premise is correct. IF I had agreed to see someone and THEN stood the person up with nary a word, that would simply be wrong. Of course. I don't like all of this public ugliness, and I think personal matters should be handled in the appropriately named "private" message. Thus concludes the subject for me. This is the last negative message of this ilk from this monger I will dignify with a response. Thank you.

[AlohaJ]

I would tend to agree, but posting someone's pic on any internet site without her consent is wrong, any way you look at it. Just because she allows a photo to be taken doesn't mean you get to do with it anything you want. In my opinion, if you take a photo of a lady, simply ask her if she minds if you post it on this site so that people know who they are setting an appointment with. I would tend to say, after seeing the photo, she will likely see an increase to her customer base. It should be more about respecting the ladies. There is also something others have not brought up and that's legality issues because there was a certain level of expectation to privacy on her part. If she didn't give consent, then there is a possibility of legal recourse for his actions. But that's my opinion.

You need to look up something called "fair use." If you're reviewing something you can use their material to do so. You can't use it for commercial purposes and we, the operators of the site, are not.

That doesn't mean I don't often take them down. It means that you can post pics of hookers that are commercial sex workers when you are reviewing them.

A2

[AlohaJ]

So a few weeks ago, a fellow monger and I went back and forth on a review I wrote. Some people wasn't happy about me not listing the providers name and place of business. The exchanges got out of hand some and looking back, they were right, I should have provided more details on the provider. But in the process of going back and forth, one of my posts violated terms of this forum (what infraction is still in question) but for that infraction, I was penalized and now all my posts have to reviewed before released. My question is, how long do I have to wait until I regain my senior status back and have the ability to post without being reviewed?

Your answer is in the Special Restrictions you violated which are posted at the top of every Honolulu thread.

"The 1st violation will result in the perpetrator being placed on Permanent Moderation status."

Permanently would be the answer. We told you we would do it before you did it. Now we are simply doing what we told you we would. If you're wondering if the second part of that will also happen, yes it will. If you do it again I'll ban your username.

A2

[Cosmic Kid]

The operative word is "if. " Yes, "if" I agreed that would be true. But I don't know how you could speak of your personal experiences with me, when I don't see you. I don't stand you up. I don't make you wait. I simply don't want to see you. And I told you that. Politely, professionally, via PM, which is the same way you PM me. You might want to mention your veritable behind the scenes campaign to see me and I have always declined. I would never use a public forum like this to have that conversation, but you got a bee in your bonnet about me and did one of your unexpected posts. With all of the negative things you have said about me, although you only saw me once, circa 2014, why would you want to make an appointment, and why would you expect a targeted person to agree to see you? Anyone who looks over your history of posts about me will probably understand that I wanted to spend my time doing anything but seeing you. Lambasting someone who is not interested in meeting with you might be counterproductive if you wanted a fresh start.

Summary: CK's premise is correct. IF I had agreed to see someone and THEN stood the person up with nary a word, that would simply be wrong. Of course. I don't like all of this public ugliness, and I think personal matters should be handled in the appropriately named "private" message. Thus concludes the subject for me. This is the last negative message of this ilk from this monger I will dignify with a response. Thank you.Interesting! Actually, I'd been feeling some remorse about my previous post about you, HG, thinking I was overly heavy-handed, and I was planning on issuing a bit of a retraction and public apology to you today. Things you've stated in your post complicate matters however. I honestly believe you have me confused with some other monger! "Veritable behind the scenes campaign to see me"? Not only is that statement absurd but it's devoid of any connection with reality whatsoever. I sent you ONE PM requesting a session recently, and you responded with something about how you suspected I might be someone you didn't want to see but you weren't sure; and subsequently I never heard anything more from you, and I never attempted to contact you again! Plus, I continue to maintain that on two separate occasions you canceled mutually agreed-upon sessions with me without alerting me to those cancellations. Even so, and thus my wish to apologize, in retrospect I believe it was nothing more than bad timing for us, that both of those two cancellations of yours represented legitimate unfortunate emergencies in your life, and thus it's conceivable you were having so much stress that front-loading me about the cancellations was the least of your concerns. In other words, you didn't "flake" on me on a whim. You were under considerable stress and I probably should have forgiven you, not taken the situation personally, and not gotten so heavy on your case for not alerting me to the cancellations. However, this discussion is descending into "he said, she said", unprovable back and forth allegations, so it's best to conclude it now, and for this reason I agree with your decision to end our exchange, HG.

Just for the record, as us guys know, there are pros out there who are only in the pussy-selling biz for the money, and are rip-off biatches who can and will pull various games on a monger if he lets his guard down. But I state here and now it's my impression HG is most definitely NOT one of those unscrupulous cold-blooded women. Bottom line, I believe Honolulu Girl's got a good heart, entertains high ethical standards, and is fully committed to giving the best service to her clients that she can. In fact, two of the senior mongers I personally respect most on this board, those fine gentlemen of exemplary character being Redneck and Blake123, have both had, according to their posts as I recall, quite satisfying session encounters with HG. It all just boils down to TEHO. Our lady in question is obviously an excellent sensual experience and very sexy bang for the buck for select mongers. But it's become rather apparent she and I do not get along.

[Insatiable808]

From Lava Spa / Blue Angel Thread:

"Slide Hammer.

Senior Member.

Posts: 442.

Real smart let's laugh shall we? Can't wait Til they call cops to complain this place is probably asking to get raided daily.

Only idiots would think the below is cool.

Thanks for the info on the drywall. Will avoid. ".

RELAX, Debbie Downer!!

Not all of us make the girls squeal with delight!!

In fact, most of us don't last more than 5 minutes in these Hotties before busting our loads!!

And most of us don't pleasure these Hotties enough to make them scream & moan & groan with delight enough to be heard through a shower curtain!!

So rest your mind, the minority of us rockin' these Hottie's Worlds will not cause premature closure of said salons due to excessively loud sexual noises. There just ain't enough of us doing the heavy lifting to cause this calamity.

Ask Mama if the neighbors complain about the "noise".

Too few & far btwn for them to give a rat's ass.

The owner don't care, as long as they pay the rent!!

Enjoy the Hotties!!

Be Safe,

Insatiable808.

[RiverRat22]

I would tend to agree, but posting someone's pic on any internet site without her consent is wrong, any way you look at it. Just because she allows a photo to be taken doesn't mean you get to do with it anything you want. In my opinion, if you take a photo of a lady, simply ask her if she minds if you post it on this site so that people know who they are setting an appointment with. I would tend to say, after seeing the photo, she will likely see an increase to her customer base. It should be more about respecting the ladies. There is also something others have not brought up and that's legality issues because there was a certain level of expectation to privacy on her part. If she didn't give consent, then there is a possibility of legal recourse for his actions. But that's my opinion.

You need to look up something called "fair use." If you're reviewing something you can use their material to do so. You can't use it for commercial purposes and we, the operators of the site, are not.

That doesn't mean I don't often take them down. It means that you can post pics of hookers that are commercial sex workers when you are reviewing them.

A2In your opinion its wrong. I can do anything I want with it and I did. You are right she will see a boom in business. Don't quit you day job I don't think you will get into law school, Sea Lawyers are a dime a dozen.

[AlohaJ]

Fair use pertains to copy right, not expectation of privacy, which is something different. Because the photos were taken in a private venue and not in public, the expectation of privacy is in question. Concent to take a photo does give them consent to post them on the Internet. But I guess being a senior member of this site makes you all knowing. Whether it's illegal or not can be debated and I'm sure there is case law that covers this, but it's also a moral issue, which I am safe to say you have none. You posting someone's photo without consent gives everyone of us a bad name. So I will take my law degree from sea university and go hom.

[AlohaJ]

So did the other person get penalized as well? So I'm still confused as to what I did that is listed on your infractions at the top. I did not:

Post person information nor did I post arrest warrants or incarcerations of a person. I did not post mugshots or use all caps. So I ask again, what exactly did I post that was against these rules? I was simply responding to someone else who blasted me on my review. If you read my posts, I told the other member to move this to the beef section so that I didn't violate your rules. BTW, I see posts unrelated to the topic all the time, yet I don't see then edited or removed. Seems to me that you choose what rules to enforce and what rules not to enforce.

Can you fucking read? You just said you did the thing I threw the flag for.


I was simply responding to someone else who blasted me on my review.Is a direct violation of the Honolulu restrictions posted at the top of every page.

"Effective immediately, posters in the Honolulu forum are prohibited from criticizing, complaining about or discussing other forum members."

If you're having a problem with the big words get somebody to explain it to you.

Fair warning brotherman; you're going to want to give this up while you're only this far behind, you're not nearly as smart as your mom tells you that you are. This isn't going to get any better for you.

A2

[Cosmic Kid]

In your opinion its wrong. I can do anything I want with it and I did. You are right she will see a boom in business. Don't quit you day job I don't think you will get into law school, Sea Lawyers are a dime a dozen.I've been observing this unfolding drama concerning Monica's pics, and it does seem there are highly paradoxical aspects to the situation. On one hand, yeah, dudes see that shot of her back and get turned on and suddenly, as RiverRat22 says, biz is soon booming for her. But the other hypothetical side of this equation is this provider must worry about who took what photos of her in the past, and is someone sometime going to get angry at her for something and want to seek revenge by exposing her identity via a photo and messing up her life, maybe even try and blackmail her by threatening to make public a photo revealing her identity? I could see her becoming quite paranoid, and for good reason, about the possibilities for trouble as a result of pics guys have of her in action. So, the upside seems to be more immediate work and cash for her now, but downside, more potential for problems in the future. I don't know if any of this is true, I'm simply speculating.

[Goser]

I've been observing this unfolding drama concerning Monica's pics, and it does seem there are highly paradoxical aspects to the situation. On one hand, yeah, dudes see that shot of her back and get turned on and suddenly, as RiverRat22 says, biz is soon booming for her. But the other hypothetical side of this equation is this provider must worry about who took what photos of her in the past, and is someone sometime going to get angry at her for something and want to seek revenge by exposing her identity via a photo and messing up her life, maybe even try and blackmail her by threatening to make public a photo revealing her identity? I could see her becoming quite paranoid, and for good reason, about the possibilities for trouble as a result of pics guys have of her in action. So, the upside seems to be more immediate work and cash for her now, but downside, more potential for problems in the future. I don't know if any of this is true, I'm simply speculating.There is nothing paradoxical about this situation. RiverRat22 is a fucking idiot for posting that picture without her permission. I really hope she posts a picture of that ass in response.

[AlohaJ]

Let me look at the top to make sure I'm posting in the beef section because lord knows I wouldn't want to violate any rules because cigar shopping belongs in Massage section? Seems to me that there are a lot of violators that aren't getting popped and banned. I would appreciate you not referencing my mother in future posts if you don't mind. This is the beef section and I have a legit beef as many others do at this point. I think the perceived power you have has gone straight to your head. Ban me from for speaking my peace in the right thread if you need to, but don't you think you're taking this a little far? Also, let me guess, I just violated another rule by picking my beef with you, since you're a member as well?

[Admin2]

Let me look at the top to make sure I'm posting in the beef section because lord knows I wouldn't want to violate any rules because cigar shopping belongs in Massage section? Seems to me that there are a lot of violators that aren't getting popped and banned. I would appreciate you not referencing my mother in future posts if you don't mind. This is the beef section and I have a legit beef as many others do at this point. I think the perceived power you have has gone straight to your head. Ban me from for speaking my peace in the right thread if you need to, but don't you think you're taking this a little far? Also, let me guess, I just violated another rule by picking my beef with you, since you're a member as well?None of this is in blue so it's just me.

Where to start?

Mom's, I wasn't talking about your mom. Talking about mom's is and always will be against the rules. I was insulting you not her. There's a difference though I'm sure you will ignore that since it doesn't fit your narrative.

I have no perceived power on this forum, I have absolute power on this forum, it's what being an admin means. None of it goes to my head, it's just how it is. When I log out I leave it behind me and go enjoy the great life this gig provides for me.

It has never been a violation of the rules to insult me on a fight thread and if you think you're copping some kind of cherry by doing it you couldn't be more wrong. You also couldn't have done it less originally. I could give a shit less what you say about me on a fight thread, it's the internet. You don't know me, you think you do because of the job I do but A2 isn't a person, it's a construct of people, like a character I use for work. I'm very different so who are you spending your time insulting? It's not me, I'm not A2. Guys like you are job security for me because only one of us is getting paid to do this. I got this chick coming over in about an hour, she's a regular of mine. While you're thinking of the next thing to say to me I'll be fucking her. http://www.bairesgirls.net/escorts/Caro%20Manzanita_15-6464-8163_13634.htm.

Are you kind of getting the idea why I don't really care what you call me? So flame on brother, it's all good with me. Just keep it on the fight thread because guys who come to the forum to read about pussy don't want to wade through your smart guy bullshit to get to the parts about pussy.

A2.

[AlohaJ]

As you, this is a hobby and none of this is worth my or your time. I wish you luck with the lady you listed, she looks yummy. I have no issue with the rules, but I was hoping for a warning before hitting me with a violation and making everything I post require review and approval because sometimes we require a quick response. The rules are the rules and I suppose I'll face the consequences for my actions. I would rather continue gaining access to the site than get booted. So I will consider this beef squashed so I can use my time trolling for the next grade A piece.

Always the best idea, life is short. Consider the beef cooked.

Go and sin some more my son.

A2

[Viet Whisperer]

Let me remind you, fellow mongers that a couple of months ago a couple of new comers posted stories of giving ShaSha a ride home after their first meeting and going up to her place for wild fuck fests! That too was total bullshit! This could be the same clown under a different name- I think A2 has him pegged. Anyway little ShaSha may give the impression of being submissive, but believe me- she is always in control! The concept of throwing a little extra money her way, to get her to do something she doesn't want to do is pure foolishness!It's the same guy making up shit. Sasha doesn't do anal and isn't taking you home after fucking all day and night LOL. Watch out for the really psycho personality to rear his ugly head again soon. Have fun!

[Yahtzee]

Wow so what happened to all the posts of hapa Jasmine having a pimp? Someone in here deleted all the posts but yet left the ones saying good thing s about her?

[FreshCatch]

Wow so what happened to all the posts of hapa Jasmine having a pimp? Someone in here deleted all the posts but yet left the ones saying good thing s about her?LOL wow saw all the posts got deleted. Even her being fat. Guess she has someone on the inside, sorry to hear and thanks for sharing.

Yes, Jasmine makes special trips to Argentina in order to service me so that I give her, but only her, special treatment.

I left up the reviews, I took down the ENDLESS fucking arguments about if she was fat or not. I left up the "she played me for two years and then broke my heart because she has a pimp" post because she used a little too much tooth on the last BBBJ.

What a fucking douche

A2

[Memahu]

LOL wow saw all the posts got deleted. Even her being fat. Guess she has someone on the inside, sorry to hear and thanks for sharing.

Yes, Jasmine makes special trips to Argentina in order to service me so that I give her, but only her, special treatment.

I left up the reviews, I took down the ENDLESS fucking arguments about if she was fat or not. I left up the "she played me for two years and then broke my heart because she has a pimp" post because she used a little too much tooth on the last BBBJ.

What a fucking douche

A2I got to be honest. I have no dog in the fight since I have never seen Jasmine. I was going to write a wise ass joke post about her. But not after reading this. She one smart wahine for being one step ahead. It's like Walter White in Breaking Bad who was always one step ahead of everybody.

[Goser]

There was a time but no longer will she allow BB.Just curious. How would you know that? Did she tell you that is her policy? If so, could it be possible that she just told you that to justify not giving it to you?

My guess is that given her well documented paranoia and pre-occupation with this thread, she is telling some of her regulars with whom she offers BBFS every time to do her a favor and post that she doesn't do it anymore.

[Ingwa]

I going to post it here instead of answering in the Kison thread regarding negative reports and how it affects the providers. I believe if you had a less than satisfactory session with a provider, there is nothing wrong with posting why you were not satisfied. This board is to help mongers decide who they should see. Only positive reports might be misleading if the provider is actually YMMV.

[Bill]

I'm reading reports of guys happy with street skanks decades past their prime aka their 40's and 50's.

Fat grey hoes are getting paid 40 on up for a BJ sometimes covered WTF has happened to the golden rule?

"the man with the gold makes the rules".

Where are the hot women in their 20's allowing FS for 30 in car?

A girl on Bee Pee getting 500 for an hour? Who the fuks paying this shit? Dumbasses that's who.

You guys fucked up the action big tyme no wonder your working 2 jobs and paying child support / alimony LOL!

[Kalani69]

I going to post it here instead of answering in the Kison thread regarding negative reports and how it affects the providers. I believe if you had a less than satisfactory session with a provider, there is nothing wrong with posting why you were not satisfied. This board is to help mongers decide who they should see. Only positive reports might be misleading if the provider is actually YMMV.I might add, that as mongers and users of this site, we should keep in mind that everyone evaluates providers to his own criteria. When we read a monger's report we need to keep that in mind.

[Larry Hoover]

But he died in the end.Only because he chose to kill himself. Just take the compliment woman.

[Larry Hoover]

I'm reading reports of guys happy with street skanks decades past their prime aka their 40's and 50's.

Fat grey hoes are getting paid 40 on up for a BJ sometimes covered WTF has happened to the golden rule?

"the man with the gold makes the rules".

Where are the hot women in their 20's allowing FS for 30 in car?

A girl on Bee Pee getting 500 for an hour? Who the fuks paying this shit? Dumbasses that's who.

You guys fucked up the action big tyme no wonder your working 2 jobs and paying child support / alimony LOL!Yeah. The only reason these girls are charging so much is because dudes keep paying it. I'm not that desperate.

[Redneck 1]

I going to post it here instead of answering in the Kison thread regarding negative reports and how it affects the providers. I believe if you had a less than satisfactory session with a provider, there is nothing wrong with posting why you were not satisfied. This board is to help mongers decide who they should see. Only positive reports might be misleading if the provider is actually YMMV.Yes, I completely agree.

I would like to mention two additional thoughts.

First, presuming a negative report on a provider is truthful, no problem. However, one of the reports on Jenny (by a new member who was repeatedly reprimanded for three rules violations in the Kison thread within six days), alleged that her body was "nasty" and "sloppiest," as if she were some sort of disgusting pig. I can fully understand how some perfectionist guys may not like her body type (although I do), but realistically, her body is no worse than most women in her age range and better than many. I strongly suspect those extreme words may have intentionally been chosen to hurt her feelings.

Second, my preference would be to permit providers to respond to negative reports if they desire to do so. Currently, such responses are almost always deleted, supposedly because they're "unproductive drama". However, there are usually two sides to a story. When only one side of the story is presented, that can easily be misleading. It can be similar in effect to a rigged political debate where only one of the two candidates is permitted to speak, or a "kangaroo court" case where only one side is permitted to testify. For example, a customer could report that a provider "refused to kiss". So she's a bad provider, right? Yet the provider may respond that the customer's breath stank of cheap whisky and stale cigarette smoke. Hmm, so maybe there was a legitimate reason why the provider didn't want to kiss. Of course, to avoid clogging various threads with provider responses, they could all be restricted to one designated thread, similar to a "Like Beef Lolo" thread.

[Niceguy808]

Yeah. The only reason these girls are charging so much is because dudes keep paying it. I'm not that desperate.Like any form of capitalism, a provider can charge whatever she wants, but should bear in mind that others may charge less. So, unless she can give a client a one of a kind experience, she may have to bring her rates down in order to compete and remain viable in the business.

Charge what the Market can bear. If her rates are high, but her service is no better than cheaper girls, she won't last long. But, some guys seem to have money to burn and will pay whatever is asked of them.

[Cosmic Kid]

Yes, I completely agree.

I would like to mention two additional thoughts.

First, presuming a negative report on a provider is truthful, no problem. However, one of the reports on Jenny (by a new member who was repeatedly reprimanded for three rules violations in the Kison thread within six days), alleged that her body was "nasty" and "sloppiest," as if she were some sort of disgusting pig. I can fully understand how some perfectionist guys may not like her body type (although I do), but realistically, her body is no worse than most women in her age range and better than many. I strongly suspect those extreme words may have intentionally been chosen to hurt her feelings.

Second, my preference would be to permit providers to respond to negative reports if they desire to do so. Currently, such responses are almost always deleted, supposedly because they're "unproductive drama". However, there are usually two sides to a story. When only one side of the story is presented, that can easily be misleading. It can be similar in effect to a rigged political debate where only one of the two candidates is permitted to speak, or a "kangaroo court" case where only one side is permitted to testify. For example, a customer could report that a provider "refused to kiss". So she's a bad provider, right? Yet the provider may respond that the customer's breath stank of cheap whisky and stale cigarette smoke. Hmm, so maybe there was a legitimate reason why the provider didn't want to kiss. Of course, to avoid clogging various threads with provider responses, they could all be restricted to one designated thread, similar to a "Like Beef Lolo" thread.Not a bad idea at all, Redneck. A "Like Beef Lolo?" type of thread wherein a provider is given the power to respond to or rebut a monger's criticisms of her performance in the room. What say you to this idea, A2? "Useless drama" or fair and equal treatment?

[TheHammah]

Yes, I completely agree.

I would like to mention two additional thoughts.

First, presuming a negative report on a provider is truthful, no problem. However, one of the reports on Jenny (by a new member who was repeatedly reprimanded for three rules violations in the Kison thread within six days), alleged that her body was "nasty" and "sloppiest," as if she were some sort of disgusting pig. I can fully understand how some perfectionist guys may not like her body type (although I do), but realistically, her body is no worse than most women in her age range and better than many. I strongly suspect those extreme words may have intentionally been chosen to hurt her feelings.

Second, my preference would be to permit providers to respond to negative reports if they desire to do so. Currently, such responses are almost always deleted, supposedly because they're "unproductive drama". However, there are usually two sides to a story. When only one side of the story is presented, that can easily be misleading. It can be similar in effect to a rigged political debate where only one of the two candidates is permitted to speak, or a "kangaroo court" case where only one side is permitted to testify. For example, a customer could report that a provider "refused to kiss". So she's a bad provider, right? Yet the provider may respond that the customer's breath stank of cheap whisky and stale cigarette smoke. Hmm, so maybe there was a legitimate reason why the provider didn't want to kiss. Of course, to avoid clogging various threads with provider responses, they could all be restricted to one designated thread, similar to a "Like Beef Lolo" thread.I think you are talking about me. The reason I got those infractions were because I commented on other reviewers (blind, being a shill) that's all.

I didn't say those to hurt her, that's my honest opinion.

I'm probably a lot younger than most of you guys, I also think Paula and yoko is nasty and ugly as well but they are probably 20 years older than me.

Sometimes I ask myself "why the fuck do I pay to fuck these bitches I wouldn't even try to fuck for free if I met them outside".

But if the service is good, then I can tell myself the money spent wasn't that bad.

But with Jenny, she's a bit younger and I still find her highly unattractive. I would never date someone that looked like that (yes, I know I'm superficial but appearance is a big factor to being attractive to someone, I also care about personality and all that other shit but if I'm not physically attracted I will never bother to date or do anything with that person.).

But besides that, her service was terrible.

I'm not the only that commented how bad her BJ was. I was seriously lookin down at her and asking myself "WTF is she doing".

And her massage wasn't anything special. Some of the reviews made it sound like she was a badass professional masseuse.

TEHO I guess.

[Ck813]

Providers have a list I believe called the Blacklist and there they can list real mother fucking names and numbers I think. I truly believe we should be able to leave the girls real names and numbers ask as they have their own site. Hell fucking no to them rebutting here. This is for us guys. Providers stay the hel fuck away. This is the bed thread so fuck them stink fucked up rip off mother fucking providers and you all know who I'm talking about. The one in Waikiki, the one in town, a lot of local chicks, plenty of them pricks. I'm out!


Not a bad idea at all, Redneck. A "Like Beef Lolo?" type of thread wherein a provider is given the power to respond to or rebut a monger's criticisms of her performance in the room. What say you to this idea, A2? "Useless drama" or fair and equal treatment?

[Admin2]

Second, my preference would be to permit providers to respond to negative reports if they desire to do so. Currently, such responses are almost always deleted, supposedly because they're "unproductive drama". However, there are usually two sides to a story. When only one side of the story is presented, that can easily be misleading. It can be similar in effect to a rigged political debate where only one of the two candidates is permitted to speak, or a "kangaroo court" case where only one side is permitted to testify. For example, a customer could report that a provider "refused to kiss". So she's a bad provider, right? Yet the provider may respond that the customer's breath stank of cheap whisky and stale cigarette smoke. Hmm, so maybe there was a legitimate reason why the provider didn't want to kiss. Of course, to avoid clogging various threads with provider responses, they could all be restricted to one designated thread, similar to a "Like Beef Lolo" thread.I have no idea whatsoever why some of you guys can't wait to get these chicks involved in the forum regardless of how many times in the past it has proven to be a disaster. Redneck you and I have exchanged PM's in the past, I respect and value your contributions to the forum but this can of worms you want to answer is a timebomb and fucks with the forum.

If there is a chick that most guys think is pretty good and some new guy or low post count guy posts something really bad about her there's nothing that needs doing. The majority, the overwhelming majority of guys are going to see that for exactly what it is. Some guy went to see her, pulled some stupid shit he shouldn't have, she threw him out on his ass, and now he's making it worse by using the forum for a vendetta. It happens. Unless some senior guy chimes in and says "hey she did the same thing to me last week, nobody is going to pay attention. Well a couple fucking idiots might so all the guy accomplishes is a couple fucking idiots don't call the chick. The more the asshole posts about her, the bigger the favor he's doing for her because her fans will then post about her and her business increases. I see this every day on the forum.

From a business perspective the ABSOLUTE worst thing she can do is address it. That forces guys to make a choice about the original review and she's always going to lose on it. The BEST thing she can do is sweetly thank the asshole, tell him how sorry she is, and say she wants to make it up to him. One of two things happen. He stops and everybody reads how customer service oriented she is, win for the chick OR he doesn't stop and really looks like an asshole with an ax to grind. Again, win for the chick.

This isn't to say we don't think the girls need a place. We do think that they do. On the new version of the classified site we are developing there will be a forum just like this one but it's only going to be open to providers with ads so that they can share info. It will help keep them safer and we are all about that because we love hookers.

The USASG will never have a thread for "her side. " If somebody starts one I'll delete it. It's not what we do. If you simply can't live without "he said she said" then I suggest you (universal you, not Redneck 1 you) get back together with your ex-wife. I for one have had all of that I need for this lifetime.

A2.

[Ck813]

And that is why you are admin. Bottom line providers should never have known about this site. Go look up black list.


I have no idea whatsoever why some of you guys can't wait to get these chicks involved in the forum regardless of how many times in the past it has proven to be a disaster. Redneck you and I have exchanged PM's in the past, I respect and value your contributions to the forum but this can of worms you want to answer is a timebomb and fucks with the forum.

If there is a chick that most guys think is pretty good and some new guy or low post count guy posts something really bad about her there's nothing that needs doing. The majority, the overwhelming majority of guys are going to see that for exactly what it is. Some guy went to see her, pulled some stupid shit he shouldn't have, she threw him out on his ass, and now he's making it worse by using the forum for a vendetta. It happens. Unless some senior guy chimes in and says "hey she did the same thing to me last week, nobody is going to pay attention. Well a couple fucking idiots might so all the guy accomplishes is a couple fucking idiots don't call the chick. The more the asshole posts about her, the bigger the favor he's doing for her because her fans will then post about her and her business increases. I see this every day on the forum.

From a business perspective the ABSOLUTE worst thing she can do is address it. That forces guys to make a choice about the original review and she's always going to lose on it. The BEST thing she can do is sweetly thank the asshole, tell him how sorry she is, and say she wants to make it up to him. One of two things happen. He stops and everybody reads how customer service oriented she is, win for the chick OR he doesn't stop and really looks like an asshole with an ax to grind. Again, win for the chick.

This isn't to say we don't think the girls need a place. We do think that they do. On the new version of the classified site we are developing there will be a forum just like this one but it's only going to be open to providers with ads so that they can share info. It will help keep them safer and we are all about that because we love hookers.

The USASG will never have a thread for "her side. " If somebody starts one I'll delete it. It's not what we do. If you simply can't live without "he said she said" then I suggest you (universal you, not Redneck 1 you) get back together with your ex-wife. I for one have had all of that I need for this lifetime.

A2.

[Shengnu888]

Hope they keep posting bad things about me.I just post facts. No bad things.

[Memahu]

Hope they keep posting bad things about me.Does that mean there's a "Permission to speak freely, ma'am"?

[Redneck 1]

Went to Kison and only Jenny or a bunch of way too old providers were available.

So gave her another shot.

Still the worst BBBJ, I'm sure everyone has at least agree with that?No, I don't think "everyone" would "agree" that Jenny provides "the worst BBBJ".

In fact, my most recent report on Jenny said that she provided me with "a very good BBBJ (combined with ball fondling), often making direct eye contact with me". None of the three favorable reports on Jenny by Sukebegai, the two favorable reports on Jenny by Mongerholic, the two favorable reports on Jenny by Rico Suave808, the two favorable reports on Jenny by HawaiiBoy09, and the favorable reports on Jenny by WaikikiBeAC and LeftyBoy, said that she provided "the worst BBBJ". The favorable report on Jenny by YoungBalls mentioned that Jenny's BBBJ "needs work," but also said that her BBBJ was "very enthusiastic" and that she "gets into it".

After your first session with Jenny, you proclaimed that it was a "terrible experience," a "total waste of money," "one of the worst experience I ever had at Kison," and that you would "never date someone that looked like that". You alleged that Jenny was "nasty," "flabby," had the "sloppiest body," "looks like she never worked out in her life," was "totally out of shape," and "highly unattractive". You claimed that "her service was just as bad as her body," that "her service was terrible," that she gave the "worst BJ ever," that she engaged in "total fake terrible acting," and "that shit was a turn off".

You've also asserted that you're "probably a lot younger than most of you guys," and said that you've asked yourself "why the fuck do I pay to fuck these bitches I wouldn't even try to fuck for free if I met them outside".

Yet, after spewing all of that venom against Jenny, supposedly you chose Jenny for another session, presumably at a cost of another $200. Even though there are many other providers available in Honolulu, and probably even freebies with non-pro women for a young guy like you.

Personally, I think you (a) have some sort of hidden agenda or ulterior motive against Jenny, and/or (b) were extremely stupid to pay for another session with a provider whom you supposedly had already found so repulsive and defective.

[Lonely Smiles]

You just got served by one of most reasonable seniors on these forums. Where is a debate moderator when you need one? As far as I'm concerned, this round clearly goes to Red.

It's like a watching double-speak politician get crushed by a mountain of evidence.

So yes TheHammah, even assholes like you get to spout opinions, however ill-conceived, thoughtless, and incomprehensible those opinions may be. Axe to grind much? If you don't like the service, great, report on it. But going into a report full of inflammatory hyperbole that is completely denigrating to a provider and then claiming to see her again, only to write more bs? You stretch the limits of credibility.

Basic psychology101, if you treat a woman like you are disgusted by her, how the hell do you expect to get good service?


No, I don't think "everyone" would "agree" that Jenny provides "the worst BBBJ".

In fact, my most recent report on Jenny said that she provided me with "a very good BBBJ (combined with ball fondling), often making direct eye contact with me". None of the three favorable reports on Jenny by Sukebegai, the two favorable reports on Jenny by Mongerholic, the two favorable reports on Jenny by Rico Suave808, the two favorable reports on Jenny by HawaiiBoy09, and the favorable reports on Jenny by WaikikiBeAC and LeftyBoy, said that she provided "the worst BBBJ". The favorable report on Jenny by YoungBalls mentioned that Jenny's BBBJ "needs work," but also said that her BBBJ was "very enthusiastic" and that she "gets into it".

After your first session with Jenny, you proclaimed that it was a "terrible experience," a "total waste of money," "one of the worst experience I ever had at Kison," and that you would "never date someone that looked like that". You alleged that Jenny was "nasty," "flabby," had the "sloppiest body," "looks like she never worked out in her life," was "totally out of shape," and "highly unattractive". You claimed that "her service was just as bad as her body," that "her service was terrible," that she gave the "worst BJ ever," that she engaged in "total fake terrible acting," and "that shit was a turn off".

You've also asserted that you're "probably a lot younger than most of you guys," and said that you've asked yourself "why the fuck do I pay to fuck these bitches I wouldn't even try to fuck for free if I met them outside".

Yet, after spewing all of that venom against Jenny, supposedly you chose Jenny for another session, presumably at a cost of another $200. Even though there are many other providers available in Honolulu, and probably even freebies with non-pro women for a young guy like you.

Personally, I think you (a) have some sort of hidden agenda or ulterior motive against Jenny, and/or (b) were extremely stupid to pay for another session with a provider whom you supposedly had already found so repulsive and defective.

[Larry Hoover]

http://honolulu.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/filipino-beautypetiteandsweet-incalloutcallscall-nowpit-stops/6060950

1. both.

2. 10/10/10 (my HONEST OPINION).

3. depends on location, I saw her for the hr and she quoted me $$$50, definitely an upscale provider.

4. She doesn't discuss over the phone if you ask her but she asked that if I decided to write a review to not share because if you fellow mongers wanted to see her, you will! Out of respect for her because she is a kind provider I suggest you ask her, maybe she'll reconsider.

5. near town.

Yes I have but my personal favorite was heavenly, mainly because of her positive kind vide and the good attitude. Awesome personality! Very discreet and comfortable provider!Get the fuck out of here with this blatant shilling.

[TheHammah]

You just got served by one of most reasonable seniors on these forums. Where is a debate moderator when you need one? As far as I'm concerned, this round clearly goes to Red.

It's like a watching double-speak politician get crushed by a mountain of evidence.

So yes TheHammah, even assholes like you get to spout opinions, however ill-conceived, thoughtless, and incomprehensible those opinions may be. Axe to grind much? If you don't like the service, great, report on it. But going into a report full of inflammatory hyperbole that is completely denigrating to a provider and then claiming to see her again, only to write more bs? You stretch the limits of credibility.

Basic psychology101, if you treat a woman like you are disgusted by her, how the hell do you expect to get good service?LOL, what are you? Rednecks little *****?

Whatever reason you guys think I'm reporting, go ahead and think it.

The main reason I went and had another session with her and didn't go looking elsewhere is BBFS and msog.

I didn't want to choose a granny.

I can't believe redneck went and dissected my review on Jenny, I also don't give a fuck if he's a "respectable senior member".

LOL you got to be fucking kidding me.

You think I care if she sees a lot of customers or not?

The only reason why you guys probably didn't think she give a terrible BJ is probably because your cocks are small.

I don't treat them like shit but I also don't put them on a fucking pedestool.

Seriously, get a life Instead of trying to be the white knight for a fat sloppy *****.

[TheHammah]

No, I don't think "everyone" would "agree" that Jenny provides "the worst BBBJ".

In fact, my most recent report on Jenny said that she provided me with "a very good BBBJ (combined with ball fondling), often making direct eye contact with me". None of the three favorable reports on Jenny by Sukebegai, the two favorable reports on Jenny by Mongerholic, the two favorable reports on Jenny by Rico Suave808, the two favorable reports on Jenny by HawaiiBoy09, and the favorable reports on Jenny by WaikikiBeAC and LeftyBoy, said that she provided "the worst BBBJ". The favorable report on Jenny by YoungBalls mentioned that Jenny's BBBJ "needs work," but also said that her BBBJ was "very enthusiastic" and that she "gets into it".

After your first session with Jenny, you proclaimed that it was a "terrible experience," a "total waste of money," "one of the worst experience I ever had at Kison," and that you would "never date someone that looked like that". You alleged that Jenny was "nasty," "flabby," had the "sloppiest body," "looks like she never worked out in her life," was "totally out of shape," and "highly unattractive". You claimed that "her service was just as bad as her body," that "her service was terrible," that she gave the "worst BJ ever," that she engaged in "total fake terrible acting," and "that shit was a turn off".

You've also asserted that you're "probably a lot younger than most of you guys," and said that you've asked yourself "why the fuck do I pay to fuck these bitches I wouldn't even try to fuck for free if I met them outside".

Yet, after spewing all of that venom against Jenny, supposedly you chose Jenny for another session, presumably at a cost of another $200. Even though there are many other providers available in Honolulu, and probably even freebies with non-pro women for a young guy like you.

Personally, I think you (a) have some sort of hidden agenda or ulterior motive against Jenny, and/or (b) were extremely stupid to pay for another session with a provider whom you supposedly had already found so repulsive and defective.(A) no.

(B) sorry, $200 isn't really that much to me but only $140 goes to Jenny.

Nice try though.

[HawaiiBoy09]

No, I don't think "everyone" would "agree" that Jenny provides "the worst BBBJ".

In fact, my most recent report on Jenny said that she provided me with "a very good BBBJ (combined with ball fondling), often making direct eye contact with me". None of the three favorable reports on Jenny by Sukebegai, the two favorable reports on Jenny by Mongerholic, the two favorable reports on Jenny by Rico Suave808, the two favorable reports on Jenny by HawaiiBoy09, and the favorable reports on Jenny by WaikikiBeAC and LeftyBoy, said that she provided "the worst BBBJ". The favorable report on Jenny by YoungBalls mentioned that Jenny's BBBJ "needs work," but also said that her BBBJ was "very enthusiastic" and that she "gets into it".

After your first session with Jenny, you proclaimed that it was a "terrible experience," a "total waste of money," "one of the worst experience I ever had at Kison," and that you would "never date someone that looked like that". You alleged that Jenny was "nasty," "flabby," had the "sloppiest body," "looks like she never worked out in her life," was "totally out of shape," and "highly unattractive". You claimed that "her service was just as bad as her body," that "her service was terrible," that she gave the "worst BJ ever," that she engaged in "total fake terrible acting," and "that shit was a turn off".

You've also asserted that you're "probably a lot younger than most of you guys," and said that you've asked yourself "why the fuck do I pay to fuck these bitches I wouldn't even try to fuck for free if I met them outside".

Yet, after spewing all of that venom against Jenny, supposedly you chose Jenny for another session, presumably at a cost of another $200. Even though there are many other providers available in Honolulu, and probably even freebies with non-pro women for a young guy like you.

Personally, I think you (a) have some sort of hidden agenda or ulterior motive against Jenny, and/or (b) were extremely stupid to pay for another session with a provider whom you supposedly had already found so repulsive and defective.I'm just glad Jenny can't understand hammah's comments. She seems like a sensitive sweetheart that would be really hurt by that report.

[Goser]

No, I don't think "everyone" would "agree" that Jenny provides "the worst BBBJ".

In fact, my most recent report on Jenny said that she provided me with "a very good BBBJ (combined with ball fondling), often making direct eye contact with me". None of the three favorable reports on Jenny by Sukebegai, the two favorable reports on Jenny by Mongerholic, the two favorable reports on Jenny by Rico Suave808, the two favorable reports on Jenny by HawaiiBoy09, and the favorable reports on Jenny by WaikikiBeAC and LeftyBoy, said that she provided "the worst BBBJ". The favorable report on Jenny by YoungBalls mentioned that Jenny's BBBJ "needs work," but also said that her BBBJ was "very enthusiastic" and that she "gets into it".

After your first session with Jenny, you proclaimed that it was a "terrible experience," a "total waste of money," "one of the worst experience I ever had at Kison," and that you would "never date someone that looked like that". You alleged that Jenny was "nasty," "flabby," had the "sloppiest body," "looks like she never worked out in her life," was "totally out of shape," and "highly unattractive". You claimed that "her service was just as bad as her body," that "her service was terrible," that she gave the "worst BJ ever," that she engaged in "total fake terrible acting," and "that shit was a turn off".

You've also asserted that you're "probably a lot younger than most of you guys," and said that you've asked yourself "why the fuck do I pay to fuck these bitches I wouldn't even try to fuck for free if I met them outside".

Yet, after spewing all of that venom against Jenny, supposedly you chose Jenny for another session, presumably at a cost of another $200. Even though there are many other providers available in Honolulu, and probably even freebies with non-pro women for a young guy like you.

Personally, I think you (a) have some sort of hidden agenda or ulterior motive against Jenny, and/or (b) were extremely stupid to pay for another session with a provider whom you supposedly had already found so repulsive and defective.I think he has an agenda because nobody can be that dumb.

I saw Jenny and I didn't like her much at all. I don't remember much about her except that I didn't think she was very attractive. Definitely not my type. If she gave the worst of something, I probably would have remembered it.

[TheHammah]

I think he has an agenda because nobody can be that dumb.

I saw Jenny and I didn't like her much at all. I don't remember much about her except that I didn't think she was very attractive. Definitely not my type. If she gave the worst of something, I probably would have remembered it.Yup, I have a hidden agenda.

Becareful everyone!! I have a hidden agenda!!

[Redneck 1]

I'm just glad Jenny can't understand hammah's comments. She seems like a sensitive sweetheart that would be really hurt by that report.Last night, I happened to see her and briefly speak with her (about something else) at Kison. As you say, she's a sweetheart. In my opinion she looked lovely, and if I hadn't already made an appointment with a different provider, I would have been happy to enjoy another session with her.

[Lonely Smiles]

LOL, what are you? Rednecks little *****?

Whatever reason you guys think I'm reporting, go ahead and think it.

The main reason I went and had another session with her and didn't go looking elsewhere is BBFS and msog.

I didn't want to choose a granny.

I can't believe redneck went and dissected my review on Jenny, I also don't give a fuck if he's a "respectable senior member".

LOL you got to be fucking kidding me.

You think I care if she sees a lot of customers or not?

The only reason why you guys probably didn't think she give a terrible BJ is probably because your cocks are small.

I don't treat them like shit but I also don't put them on a fucking pedestool.

Seriously, get a life Instead of trying to be the white knight for a fat sloppy *****.Your writing is a reflection of your personality; tone deaf and inconsiderate. You've already picked up infractions. With your temperment and carelessness, how long will this screen name last?

Here, have some more rope.

[TheHammah]

Your writing is a reflection of your personality; tone deaf and inconsiderate. You've already picked up infractions. With your temperment and carelessness, how long will this screen name last?

Here, have some more rope.As long as it's okay to talk shit in here then my account won't get banned.

But seriously? Judging someone's online personality on a sex Forum where everyone here is hiding their identity?

Yes! Please judge me more!

Please correct my grammar too!

[Goser]

Yup, I have a hidden agenda.

Becareful everyone!! I have a hidden agenda!!You don't realize it, but your hidden agenda is to prevent others from knowing just how stupid you are. Unfortunately for you, you reinforce it with every post.

[Jaritsuh]

Just ignore this guy whatever his agenda it is his opinion and he is entitled to his opinion but after this I doubt anyone will believe his reports, like the troll on the KB thread. All you guys are not wrong he has his own agenda. Stirring up the pot by making outlandish reviews and remarks like the two trolls on the Korean Bar thread the result there was the Senior Members leaving the two to play with them selves more notably on this thread which was created because of these two trolls.

Just ignore this guys and place him on your ignore list. No more problems, and no one gets banned from this forum he is not worth it. Besides we all Getting Old. Be safe brothers with 3 exceptions and as always watch out for the guys and gals in blue. Safe mongering to all.

[Cosmic Kid]

LOL, what are you? Rednecks little *****?

Whatever reason you guys think I'm reporting, go ahead and think it.

The main reason I went and had another session with her and didn't go looking elsewhere is BBFS and msog.

I didn't want to choose a granny.

I can't believe redneck went and dissected my review on Jenny, I also don't give a fuck if he's a "respectable senior member".

LOL you got to be fucking kidding me.

You think I care if she sees a lot of customers or not?

The only reason why you guys probably didn't think she give a terrible BJ is probably because your cocks are small.

I don't treat them like shit but I also don't put them on a fucking pedestool.

Seriously, get a life Instead of trying to be the white knight for a fat sloppy *****.I don't have a piranha in this fight, never having met Jenny, however, it needs to be pointed out, your opinion of her is obviously conflicted and confused. You call her "fat sloppy" but then, in a bizarre reversal, end your comments by awarding her five stars!

(Sorry, couldn't resist this one.).

CK.

[TheHammah]

I don't have a piranha in this fight, never having met Jenny, however, it needs to be pointed out, your opinion of her is obviously conflicted and confused. You call her "fat sloppy" but then, in a bizarre reversal, end your comments by awarding her five stars!

(Sorry, couldn't resist this one.).

CK.LOL, I think the website or admin replaced my original word with the five *'s.

[Larry Hoover]

I think he has an agenda because nobody can be that dumb.

I saw Jenny and I didn't like her much at all. I don't remember much about her except that I didn't think she was very attractive. Definitely not my type. If she gave the worst of something, I probably would have remembered it.Anybody got pics of "fat sloppy" Jenny? I want to see. I'll smash a thick ass Asian.

[TheHammah]

You don't realize it, but your hidden agenda is to prevent others from knowing just how stupid you are. Unfortunately for you, you reinforce it with every post.Wow!! You my friend are a smart one. So witty!!

[TheHammah]

Just ignore this guy whatever his agenda it is his opinion and he is entitled to his opinion but after this I doubt anyone will believe his reports, like the troll on the KB thread. All you guys are not wrong he has his own agenda. Stirring up the pot by making outlandish reviews and remarks like the two trolls on the Korean Bar thread the result there was the Senior Members leaving the two to play with them selves more notably on this thread which was created because of these two trolls.

Just ignore this guys and place him on your ignore list. No more problems, and no one gets banned from this forum he is not worth it. Besides we all Getting Old. Be safe brothers with 3 exceptions and as always watch out for the guys and gals in blue. Safe mongering to all.Yes, just fkin ignore me and carry on.

All this attention from you sorry sad souls just because I gave Jenny a bad review.

I can see it now when you guys go to visit her. Tell her how you stood up for her and how much of an asshole I am.

And then let me guess, ask her out for lunch or dinner? Lmfao.

[HawaiiBoy09]

I don't have a piranha in this fight, never having met Jenny, however, it needs to be pointed out, your opinion of her is obviously conflicted and confused. You call her "fat sloppy" but then, in a bizarre reversal, end your comments by awarding her five stars!

(Sorry, couldn't resist this one.).

CK.


LOL, I think the website or admin replaced my original word with the five *'s.Nice! This guy is as sharp as a baby's spoon.

[TheHammah]

Nice! This guy is as sharp as a baby's spoon.Ouch! That was a good one!

[Goser]

Yes, just fkin ignore me and carry on.

All this attention from you sorry sad souls just because I gave Jenny a bad review.

I can see it now when you guys go to visit her. Tell her how you stood up for her and how much of an asshole I am.

And then let me guess, ask her out for lunch or dinner? Lmfao.I don't give a crap about your review of Jenny. I gave her a bad review as well. What amazes me are 2 things. 1) that you actually went back to see her again. 2) that you have put yourself in a hole with shovel and you keep digging.

By all means, keep posting. You have to be one of the dumbest posters ever on this message board. Pure entertainment. Do you have a special purpose? I ask because you remind me of Steve Martin in "The Jerk".

[TheHammah]

I don't give a crap about your review of Jenny. I gave her a bad review as well. What amazes me are 2 things. 1) that you actually went back to see her again. 2) that you have put yourself in a hole with shovel and you keep digging.

By all means, keep posting. You have to be one of the dumbest posters ever on this message board. Pure entertainment. Do you have a special purpose? I ask because you remind me of Steve Martin in "The Jerk".OMG really?? I'm digging myself in a hole? Please God help me, not an Internet forum hole!

LOL, get a fucking life. Funny too see how serious you guys take this shit.

It's almost unbelievable. Seriously. I'm sorry. I didn't mean to interrupt your internet lives so much.

Please don't say mean things like I remind you of Steve Martin, that really hurts me.

[Admin2]

First so long as it stays on this thread AND doesn't overwhelm this thread AND stays within the guidelines of threads like this, I don't care what stupid games you guys play here.

For those of you that wish to know.

Trolls don't care what you say to them. You will never embarrass or shame them. Their whole reason for living is to provoke you. All they care about is that you answer them so that they can keep irritating you.

No question, this guys a troll, pussy means nothing to him. Getting you to interact with him is the only thing in his burger flipping life that makes him feel important. It's sad really.

If you want to exterminate a troll starving them is the only thing that works you can't beat them to death.

All that said, do as you wish, I know some guys find watching stupid shit like this entertaining.

A2

[Lonely Smiles]

First so long as it stays on this thread AND doesn't overwhelm this thread AND stays within the guidelines of threads like this, I don't care what stupid games you guys play here.

For those of you that wish to know.

Trolls don't care what you say to them. You will never embarrass or shame them. Their whole reason for living is to provoke you. All they care about is that you answer them so that they can keep irritating you.

No question, this guys a troll, pussy means nothing to him. Getting you to interact with him is the only thing in his burger flipping life that makes him feel important. It's sad really.

If you want to exterminate a troll starving them is the only thing that works you can't beat them to death.

All that said, do as you wish, I know some guys find watching stupid shit like this entertaining.

A2I agree with a lot of this. Particularly having to stave them, however I do think the bickering can serve a minor purpose. You may disagree. Consider:

The average troll starts off, sort of disguised as a regular monger, appearing to trade information, with a few strange inflammatory statements here and there, a couple of "hey I fuck porn stars, KBGs, LMTs for free fairy tales". They may have some minor credibility, just for the sake of giving newbies the benefit of a doubt.

But when their stories really start to stink, the troll odor is strong, and they get called out, they usually take the troll bait, as this guy has done, and in HULK mania fashion come ripping out of their disguise to be plainly seen as a giant troll. Then, without any semblance of credibility left, even the least discerning of readers can see through the bullshit.

At this point, now that he is out of the closet with his trolling, credibility now 0, it makes sense in my mind to flip the ignore switch and starve the troll.

I'm probably wrong and just can't help responding. Maybe I'll be wiser when I'm older. Oh well. Back to work.

[Goser]

First so long as it stays on this thread AND doesn't overwhelm this thread AND stays within the guidelines of threads like this, I don't care what stupid games you guys play here.

For those of you that wish to know.

Trolls don't care what you say to them. You will never embarrass or shame them. Their whole reason for living is to provoke you. All they care about is that you answer them so that they can keep irritating you.

No question, this guys a troll, pussy means nothing to him. Getting you to interact with him is the only thing in his burger flipping life that makes him feel important. It's sad really.

If you want to exterminate a troll starving them is the only thing that works you can't beat them to death.

All that said, do as you wish, I know some guys find watching stupid shit like this entertaining.

A2Yeah, I find it entertaining that he keeps posting on this thread. I love the fact that all of his posts are getting modified or deleted on the threads.

[TheHammah]

I agree with a lot of this. Particularly having to stave them, however I do think the bickering can serve a minor purpose. You may disagree. Consider:

The average troll starts off, sort of disguised as a regular monger, appearing to trade information, with a few strange inflammatory statements here and there, a couple of "hey I fuck porn stars, KBGs, LMTs for free fairy tales". They may have some minor credibility, just for the sake of giving newbies the benefit of a doubt.

But when their stories really start to stink, the troll odor is strong, and they get called out, they usually take the troll bait, as this guy has done, and in HULK mania fashion come ripping out of their disguise to be plainly seen as a giant troll. Then, without any semblance of credibility left, even the least discerning of readers can see through the bullshit.

At this point, now that he is out of the closet with his trolling, credibility now 0, it makes sense in my mind to flip the ignore switch and starve the troll.

I'm probably wrong and just can't help responding. Maybe I'll be wiser when I'm older. Oh well. Back to work.LOL, seeing as how you type an essay because of me shows how sad your life actually is.

I find it amusing that I'm labeled a troll, why? Because I gave one provider a crappy review.

And all of a sudden I'm the Honolulu troll. What's funny is I might be the outcast / troll on this forum but you guys are probably a bunch of sorry sad fucks in real life.

Yup, I flip burgers for a living and I'm starving for attention.

I'm the one that's replying to you sorry fucks and not the other way around.

You guys decided to include me into your daily life and thoughts just for talking bad about Jenny.

Maybe if you guys knew what the provider thought about you guys, you would be half as amused as I am.

I seen some of yall text to them and that shit is pathetic.

Also not sure what's been going on in the KBG thread about trolling or whatever.

But yeah, obviously if you're an ugly old fuck the chances are pretty high the KBG does not give a fuck about you except your money.

No, they are not ripping you off. Because that's the ticket you got to buy to talk to them.

You think your bullshit charm and their fake laughs mean they are into you?

Sorry to such old people who are supposed to be adults still acting like little kids.

[Island Guy808]

Well said A2.


First so long as it stays on this thread AND doesn't overwhelm this thread AND stays within the guidelines of threads like this, I don't care what stupid games you guys play here.

For those of you that wish to know.

Trolls don't care what you say to them. You will never embarrass or shame them. Their whole reason for living is to provoke you. All they care about is that you answer them so that they can keep irritating you.

No question, this guys a troll, pussy means nothing to him. Getting you to interact with him is the only thing in his burger flipping life that makes him feel important. It's sad really.

If you want to exterminate a troll starving them is the only thing that works you can't beat them to death.

All that said, do as you wish, I know some guys find watching stupid shit like this entertaining.

A2

[Goser]

Any one else having a hard time reserving a spot in advance? Last week no issues. Saw two girls on two different mornings. I always call right when I know morning mama will start to pick up phone. This week I call everyday and get the run around? I've been a happy customer for about a year and have no idea why morning mama is being so hard to work with? Anyone else having issues? Guess I'll just take my business to Rejuve. Sheesh. This is so stupid it's crazy. Anyways. I only write this because I have been dying to see genie or hoshi again. They are both So sexy. So good. Happy if you read this text me and let me know what's up?If Happy knows you well enough to identify you by your screen name and has your contact information, why would you make this post instead of contacting her directly?

Why are you threatening to take your business to Rejuve when Rejuve is the worst AMP on the Island for a) answering the phones and b) keeping appointments? Not sure if this is your intention, but you come across like you have an ax to grind against Happiness.

[CardSource52]

If Happy knows you well enough to identify you by your screen name and has your contact information, why would you make this post instead of contacting her directly?

Why are you threatening to take your business to Rejuve when Rejuve is the worst AMP on the Island for a) answering the phones and b) keeping appointments? Not sure if this is your intention, but you come across like you have an ax to grind against Happiness.Strange that corvette808 is complaining about happiness when he gave a great review on Hoshi at Happiness not too long ago. I know he is a fan of Dallas but it seems like he was happy with the experience at happiness. As for me I have never had a problem making a appointment. They always picked up when I called. Now if this is common problem at happiness I could understand but this is my first time hearing about it. I also visit Rejuve time to time and I think happiness and Rejuve has the best looking providers so I enjoy both places. I heard about some people having their appointment cancelled at Rejuve but again never happened to me so I can't complain. But one advantage of happiness is the table shower and I think Rejuve is a little too bright. Just my preference. I really hope no one intentionally try to sabotage two of the best AMP's on the island. Aloha.

[Memahu]

Are we making too much of a poster having a motivation behind a bad review? Maybe the poster is just pissed off at the moment. I think that's why there's a cooling off period for athletes just after losing a game. I got to be honest that I will get upset with a service business not having people's skills.

[HiloMan]

Strange that corvette808 is complaining about happiness when he gave a great review on Hoshi at Happiness not too long ago. I know he is a fan of Dallas but it seems like he was happy with the experience at happiness. As for me I have never had a problem making a appointment. They always picked up when I called. Now if this is common problem at happiness I could understand but this is my first time hearing about it. I also visit Rejuve time to time and I think happiness and Rejuve has the best looking providers so I enjoy both places. I heard about some people having their appointment cancelled at Rejuve but again never happened to me so I can't complain. But one advantage of happiness is the table shower and I think Rejuve is a little too bright. Just my preference. I really hope no one intentionally try to sabotage two of the best AMP's on the island. Aloha.I haven't had any problems either making appointments with rejuve. The mama is honest and tell me who is busy and who is not. Rejuve get all the young pretty girls too so they get busy and turned around sometime but oh well.

[TheHammah]

Are we making too much of a poster having a motivation behind a bad review? Maybe the poster is just pissed off at the moment. I think that's why there's a cooling off period for athletes just after losing a game. I got to be honest that I will get upset with a service business not having people's skills.In regards to my trolling (bad review on Jenny) and corvette808's post.

Why does there have to be some kind of agenda behind it?

If we felt we got a shitty experience and we post about it, so be it.

It's funny when the white knights have to come out with their Shining armor on the Internet.

I can only assume goser is one of those "uncles" hanging out at happiness everyday gawking at the girls as they walk by and feel like they actually give a rats ass about him as he's eating lunch or dinner there.

Sorry uncle, just because they smile at you don't mean they really like you.

So just relax when someone says one bad thing about happiness.

I can only imagine how many of you guys think you're special because you have a providers number and text them on the daily.

Instead of trying to dissect and pay so much attention to others people negative post, why not pay more attention to yourselves and see how much of a tool you might be?

[Goser]

Are we making too much of a poster having a motivation behind a bad review? Maybe the poster is just pissed off at the moment. I think that's why there's a cooling off period for athletes just after losing a game. I got to be honest that I will get upset with a service business not having people's skills.Nope. Bad reviews are fine. In fact, bad reviews help to validate the good reviews about an AMP or provider as the truth usually lies as an average of the posts. Nobody is perfect. Any place with only perfect reviews would be suspect.

It's not making too much of a situation when something doesn't seem right about a post. I posed a question to give the guy the benefit of the doubt. He could come back and post a reasonable explanation for why he didn't send a text directly to Happy since he implied he had a relationship with her when he asked her to text him. There is far more that goes on behind the scenes than most mongers know about. I'm just curious to see if this is one of them. We are dealing with smart owners who read these boards and you never know what they are going to do to protect their interests.

[Goser]

In regards to my trolling (bad review on Jenny) and corvette808's post.

Why does there have to be some kind of agenda behind it?

If we felt we got a shitty experience and we post about it, so be it.

It's funny when the white knights have to come out with their Shining armor on the Internet.

I can only assume goser is one of those "uncles" hanging out at happiness everyday gawking at the girls as they walk by and feel like they actually give a rats ass about him as he's eating lunch or dinner there.

Sorry uncle, just because they smile at you don't mean they really like you.

So just relax when someone says one bad thing about happiness.

I can only imagine how many of you guys think you're special because you have a providers number and text them on the daily.

Instead of trying to dissect and pay so much attention to others people negative post, why not pay more attention to yourselves and see how much of a tool you might be?I am astounded at how dumb you are.

[Enona1]

Okay, so I made my own report on Jenny in the Kison thread. All in all I should've either stuck with Suji or tried out Pepsi. Not great but I've had worse elsewhere. Won't repeat. Nuff said.

[Larry Hoover]

Are we making too much of a poster having a motivation behind a bad review? Maybe the poster is just pissed off at the moment. I think that's why there's a cooling off period for athletes just after losing a game. I got to be honest that I will get upset with a service business not having people's skills.I agree; I think it is too much. Everyone thinks Hammah is a shill or a troll, but maybe he's not. You other posters are beating a dead horse already. If you're not getting the answer you want out of him, then fuck it.

[TheHammah]

I agree; I think it is too much. Everyone thinks Hammah is a shill or a troll, but maybe he's not. You other posters are beating a dead horse already. If you're not getting the answer you want out of him, then fuck it.LOL, yup all these sorry fucks think I'm a troll just because I wrote a bad review for Jenny.

You have all these knights in shining armor to the rescue, because on the Internet. Anyone can be who they want to be.

[BotoMoco]

I think all post should be taken with a grain of salt. Sometimes too much is read into a review or a post and then the guy posting is labeled someone who is a troll or otherwise. Who knows he might be one or might not be one but its his opinion on his experience with a provider. It may or may not be the truth but whose to say? Everything should be taken into moderation and respect a guys freedom of speech and not label him because of his point of view. This is unfair to him being labeled this way when in fact he may be just a regular monger like us. Like I said a grain of salt.

[ChiChiMon]

LOL, yup all these sorry fucks think I'm a troll just because I wrote a bad review for Jenny.

You have all these knights in shining armor to the rescue, because on the Internet. Anyone can be who they want to be.Capt. Save-a-ho?

[ChiChiMon]

[Deleted by Admin]

It was nice knowing you. It wouldn't fucking matter if they were and I'm about tired of fear mongers such as yourself.

A2

[Goser]

LOL, yup all these sorry fucks think I'm a troll just because I wrote a bad review for Jenny.

You have all these knights in shining armor to the rescue, because on the Internet. Anyone can be who they want to be.Can you please try to be a genius on this thread? I really need some comic relief.

[TheHammah]

Can you please try to be a genius on this thread? I really need some comic relief.What does that even mean?

Don't try so hard uncle.

I don't go happiness often for now but when I do, I'll make sure to say hi.

[Jaritsuh]

Can you please try to be a genius on this thread? I really need some comic relief.The troll is the comic relief, trolls always are in their mind just look at the two that got this thread started. Just let it go, it is hard but this sick puppy just gets off on it. If you go back on his posts he has maybe 2 reviews he could have picked up from other members the rest is asking for info or putting in his 2 cents which to me is meaningless. As it should be for you. QUIT posting and go back to the Happiness thread. At least I read your reports. Be safe and monger on.

Hey guys the best way is to ignore this guy no response and no reply to PM's isolate and cut it at the root and he will like a bad weed die on the vine. JUST don't respond. Your guys choice.

[Goser]

The troll is the comic relief, trolls always are in their mind just look at the two that got this thread started. Just let it go, it is hard but this sick puppy just gets off on it. If you go back on his posts he has maybe 2 reviews he could have picked up from other members the rest is asking for info or putting in his 2 cents which to me is meaningless. As it should be for you. QUIT posting and go back to the Happiness thread. At least I read your reports. Be safe and monger on.

Hey guys the best way is to ignore this guy no response and no reply to PM's isolate and cut it at the root and he will like a bad weed die on the vine. JUST don't respond. Your guys choice.I like feeding this troll. He is pure comic relief.

[TheHammah]

The troll is the comic relief, trolls always are in their mind just look at the two that got this thread started. Just let it go, it is hard but this sick puppy just gets off on it. If you go back on his posts he has maybe 2 reviews he could have picked up from other members the rest is asking for info or putting in his 2 cents which to me is meaningless. As it should be for you. QUIT posting and go back to the Happiness thread. At least I read your reports. Be safe and monger on.

Hey guys the best way is to ignore this guy no response and no reply to PM's isolate and cut it at the root and he will like a bad weed die on the vine. JUST don't respond. Your guys choice.It's funny when retards like you try so hard to find some scientific evidence that I'm a troll, that you even go back to checking not just my posts but analyzing my reviews to see if it's legit.

A troll usually goes and starts shit for no reason, I'm just here replying to all you sorry fucks and like I said before that this all started because I gave Jenny a bad review.

Are your lives so sad that it has to revolve around this so much? That you feel that you need to jump in and not just defend the working girls but your Internet forum friends?

But what are you defending them from?

I do find this shit amusing and I find you guys amusing and also pathetic.

But I guess that's the way the cookie crumbles right?

That this is it, right now at this time. This is what your life amounts too.

The best thing I like about this forum is the information I learn from here.

So ignoring me is not going to do anything except give me one less loser to reply too.

Keep me bored or keep me entertained, it really doesn't matter.

[TheHammah]

I like feeding this troll. He is pure comic relief.Okay uncle!

[Baboozer]

It's funny when retards like you try so hard to find some scientific evidence that I'm a troll, that you even go back to checking not just my posts but analyzing my reviews to see if it's legit.

A troll usually goes and starts shit for no reason, I'm just here replying to all you sorry fucks and like I said before that this all started because I gave Jenny a bad review.

Are your lives so sad that it has to revolve around this so much? That you feel that you need to jump in and not just defend the working girls but your Internet forum friends?

But what are you defending them from?

I do find this shit amusing and I find you guys amusing and also pathetic.

But I guess that's the way the cookie crumbles right?

That this is it, right now at this time. This is what your life amounts too.

The best thing I like about this forum is the information I learn from here.

So ignoring me is not going to do anything except give me one less loser to reply too.

Keep me bored or keep me entertained, it really doesn't matter.Eh Hammah no fret bro. Out with the old IN with the new set of eyes. No cataracts, glaucoma or "ph. D" phat in the insane membrane! Lmfao. Honest posts are honest posts. They like buss you up on that then so be it. No feed the "troll feeders" cuzz! I only troll for 2 legged tuna! Not 3 legged assholes! "Party on Wayne, Party on Garth!" Yeah buddy. No skedded GEDDUM!

[Memahu]

I don't know if Hope Solo was trolling when she called the Sweden Women's Soccer team cowards. She called them cowards because they played keep away with the ball. A monger will get frustrated and give a provider a bad review if she plays keep away with the action. A monger wants to play. And then give their emotionally opinion with a bit of anger after a loss.

[Jaritsuh]

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Crazy Jay.

Former Mama of club Talent Jay has been such a * these days. I have had the chance to score three touch downs at her condo at Moana Pacific Towe B.

If any of you want to get lucky, PM me and I will PM you her room number and digits.

You will have to spend a little though. LOL.

I feel bad for all her LVBs, she constantly tells her LVBs that she loves them, seeing her texting to them in front of me.

Big oldpatman, you forget why these women work in this profession. Most lacking any formal education or skills this is the only out for them, Back in the 70's the common story was the woman ran away from the husbands family because the family wanted the child usually male and raise it as their own leaving the mother out. They run to Hawaii and start a new life.

IN Jays case she has a huge Mortgage to pay as well as maintenance fees every month. Her son is in private school which is a credit to him having little to no english skill and getting into this private school which has a hefty tuition. She is doing what she has to do to survive so leave a extra tip next time you bang her as it will be going to provide for her family.

I am not one of her LVB although she has tried. But she is not my type and inverted nipples does not turn me on unless they pop out. LOL. Be safe guys and as always watch out for the guys and gals in blue.

And I don't think she would appreciate her condo Apt number being given out especially her son. Who is next door. Be safe and I hope you are big cause her son is one big young man with a Korean temper. Just so you know bud (and no he is not some skinny shit this kid is pretty well built).

[ILuvAsianss]

In regards to my trolling (bad review on Jenny) and corvette808's post.

Why does there have to be some kind of agenda behind it?

If we felt we got a shitty experience and we post about it, so be it.

It's funny when the white knights have to come out with their Shining armor on the Internet.

I can only assume goser is one of those "uncles" hanging out at happiness everyday gawking at the girls as they walk by and feel like they actually give a rats ass about him as he's eating lunch or dinner there.

Sorry uncle, just because they smile at you don't mean they really like you.

So just relax when someone says one bad thing about happiness.

I can only imagine how many of you guys think you're special because you have a providers number and text them on the daily.

Instead of trying to dissect and pay so much attention to others people negative post, why not pay more attention to yourselves and see how much of a tool you might be?It's already known on this board that Happy has multiple guys with multiple user names writing reviews for her and it's not hard to figure out who they are. Does happy think we're all idiots? Just curious.

[Goser]

It's already known on this board that Happy has multiple guys with multiple user names writing reviews for her and it's not hard to figure out who they are. Does happy think we're all idiots? Just curious.Yes, we think you are an idiot. Since this is your first post on this screen name I can only presume that a) your other I'd was banned / moderated or b) you created a new one to shill / troll the board. Which is it? Why don't you point out some of those shills for Happy. It's simply an urban myth. They don't exist. What is undeniable is that you are just a troll.

If you took your head out of your ass for just a second, you will see that Jenny is from Kison. Hammah was called out because he gave Jenny a horrible review and then went back to see her again. It takes one helluva moron to do that. Unable to defend his moronic action, he's grasping for straws posting anything his feebly weak mind come muster up.

[ILuvAsianss]

Yes, we think you are an idiot. Since this is your first post on this screen name I can only presume that a) your other I'd was banned / moderated or b) you created a new one to shill / troll the board. Which is it? Why don't you point out some of those shills for Happy. It's simply an urban myth. They don't exist. What is undeniable is that you are just a troll.

If you took your head out of your ass for just a second, you will see that Jenny is from Kison. Hammah was called out because he gave Jenny a horrible review and then went back to see her again. It takes one helluva moron to do that. Unable to defend his moronic action, he's grasping for straws posting anything his feebly weak mind come muster up.I'm convinced now that Happy is putting some thing in her oxtail soup and feeding these poor geriatrics. Don't get too attached to these hookers, just an advice from one guy to another. The moment you run out of that kala, they already forgot about you while sucking on some other dudes dick.

[TheHammah]

Yes, we think you are an idiot. Since this is your first post on this screen name I can only presume that a) your other I'd was banned / moderated or b) you created a new one to shill / troll the board. Which is it? Why don't you point out some of those shills for Happy. It's simply an urban myth. They don't exist. What is undeniable is that you are just a troll.

If you took your head out of your ass for just a second, you will see that Jenny is from Kison. Hammah was called out because he gave Jenny a horrible review and then went back to see her again. It takes one helluva moron to do that. Unable to defend his moronic action, he's grasping for straws posting anything his feebly weak mind come muster up.LOL, fucking dumbass. Maybe your old age is fucking with your memory.

I said maybe unlike some of you sorry fucks, $200 is not much to me.

I have done that many times see a provider and regretted it and still went and see that person again.

Of course the ONLY reason I would do that is BBFS and Msog.

I don't know why the fuck your so hellbent on protecting Jenny's sloppy ass, let me take a guess.

You took her out to lunch?

And yes, it's obvious you're a fucking shill for happiness so quit the bullshit.

Everybody sees it, you trying to claim those bullshit pictures are real.

Get the fuck out of here with that bullshit straight up 100% happiness shill sorry fuck.

Uncle, just enjoy the ****** and the free food.

You don't have much years to live. So relax on the Internet.

I know it's a feat someone of your age can use a message board but you don't have to be so dramatic about it.

Jesus Christ man.

[Memahu]

I'm convinced now that Happy is putting some thing in her oxtail soup and feeding these poor geriatrics. As not local style to disrespect your elders. It's the same as insulting their ethnic group's culture here. And when one group gets insulted, every group is a target. They strived for and still are fighting for some sense of equality. The least we can do is to thank them.

[Cosmic Kid]

As not local style to disrespect your elders. It's the same as insulting their ethnic group's culture here. And when one group gets insulted, every group is a target. They strived for and still are fighting for some sense of equality. The least we can do is to thank them.Concur here. Couldn't have said it better myself, and I'm glad Memahu has the balls to stand up express it. In addition to what he said, I say cutting a guy because of his age is totally low-blow, bad form, and a cheap shot, not fighting fair.

Plus, Hammah, when you start dissing guys for being old you only dissing yourself because age overtakes us much more quickly than you can imagine and one day down the line you gonna be old too, if you're lucky! Something to think about, brah.

CK out.

[Drummer56]

Concur here. Couldn't have said it better myself, and I'm glad Memahu has the balls to stand up express it. In addition to what he said, I say cutting a guy because of his age is totally low-blow, bad form, and a cheap shot, not fighting fair.

Plus, Hammah, when you start dissing guys for being old you only dissing yourself because age overtakes us much more quickly than you can imagine and one day down the line you gonna be old too, if you're lucky! Something to think about, brah.

CK out.Hi, what's this thread about? Whats Beef Lolo?

[Jaritsuh]

Hi, what's this thread about? Whats Beef Lolo?You want to fight! Stupid!

[Larry Hoover]

As not local style to disrespect your elders. It's the same as insulting their ethnic group's culture here. And when one group gets insulted, every group is a target. They strived for and still are fighting for some sense of equality. The least we can do is to thank them.It's not anyone's style to disrespect their elders, especially in the southern US. Local people are quick to call something they perceive as rude "mainland style", but majority of the rudest individuals I've ever met in my life were locals on this island. Sorry Memahu. I respect you as a member, but that condescending "mainland style" stuff just irks the shit out of me.

[Memahu]

It's not anyone's style to disrespect their elders, especially in the southern US. Local people are quick to call something they perceive as rude "mainland style", but majority of the rudest individuals I've ever met in my life were locals on this island. Sorry Memahu. I respect you as a member, but that condescending "mainland style" stuff just irks the shit out of me.Is there any town or city on the mainland where the local people there don't resent an outsider telling them to change? Even in a town of transients, there will be arguments on who did it better where they're from. Those rude local people might be following the slogan of Under Armour of "We must be protect this house. " Not exactly welcome to our neighborhood kind of people.

[Prjuan]

assclown (dot) com is a private monger site that's just for active senior members, Please bookmark the link as it will be deleted soon.

Spamming the forums with this...

Dick move of the week

[Memahu]

Someone who didn't take time to know his new surroundings.

Hey, Is that The Sun?

I don't know. I'm not from here.

[P Venkman]

Hi, what's this thread about? Whats Beef Lolo?Its about cooking me some free steak brah!

[BotoMoco]

Here's my beef. A couple of my reports gets deleted and I asked for a reason and get no reply. If I don't know what I did wrong how can I stop from doing it again. Seems pretty one sided to me. Mr. Doesn't like what's being said even it may be true and the posts gets deleted. Whose to say that Mr. Has some connection to that spa that the post was connected to? Seems really suspect to me that all these posts gets deleted and no reason given. I can accept it if it was wrong and some reason was given for the removal of post but to have a bully tactic of just saying I don't like your post I'm the boss and can delete what ever I please is bullshit to me. We are all sharing information and if there was a wrongdoing it should be explained so all will be more knowledgeable about what not to do. Sorry for ranting but WTF. What's your thoughts on this?

[Larry Hoover]

Here's my beef. A couple of my reports gets deleted and I asked for a reason and get no reply. If I don't know what I did wrong how can I stop from doing it again. Seems pretty one sided to me. Mr. Doesn't like what's being said even it may be true and the posts gets deleted. Whose to say that Mr. Has some connection to that spa that the post was connected to? Seems really suspect to me that all these posts gets deleted and no reason given. I can accept it if it was wrong and some reason was given for the removal of post but to have a bully tactic of just saying I don't like your post I'm the boss and can delete what ever I please is bullshit to me. We are all sharing information and if there was a wrongdoing it should be explained so all will be more knowledgeable about what not to do. Sorry for ranting but WTF. What's your thoughts on this?Who are you talking about bro?

[Redneck 1]

Here's my beef. A couple of my reports gets deleted and I asked for a reason and get no reply. If I don't know what I did wrong how can I stop from doing it again. Seems pretty one sided to me. Mr. Doesn't like what's being said even it may be true and the posts gets deleted. Whose to say that Mr. Has some connection to that spa that the post was connected to? Seems really suspect to me that all these posts gets deleted and no reason given. I can accept it if it was wrong and some reason was given for the removal of post but to have a bully tactic of just saying I don't like your post I'm the boss and can delete what ever I please is bullshit to me. We are all sharing information and if there was a wrongdoing it should be explained so all will be more knowledgeable about what not to do. Sorry for ranting but WTF. What's your thoughts on this?Presumably you're referring to the Rejuve thread, where two of your recent posts were deleted by the thread originator/moderator (not the forum administrator). As I understand it, a thread originator/moderator has authority to delete posts in his own thread without providing an explanation, even if that doesn't seem smart and/or fair to the member whose posts were deleted. However, if a post deleted from the Rejuve thread wasn't deleted by the forum administrator (A2) and doesn't violate any forum rules, presumably it could then be posted in the Massage Parlor Reports thread, or the Backpage Advertiser Reviews thread (if it pertains to a Rejuve provider advertised on Backpage), or this Like Beef Lolo thread. So a thread originator/moderator doesn't have the power to censor the post from the entire forum when there are alternative threads in which it could be posted.

Note: I don't know what you tried to post, or whether or not it was appropriate, so this reply isn't any sort of approval of or agreement with the deleted posts.

[SureYourRight]

Presumably you're referring to the Rejuve thread, where two of your recent posts were deleted by the thread originator/moderator (not the forum administrator). As I understand it, a thread originator/moderator has authority to delete posts in his own thread without providing an explanation, even if that doesn't seem smart and/or fair to the member whose posts were deleted. However, if a post deleted from the Rejuve thread wasn't deleted by the forum administrator (A2) and doesn't violate any forum rules, presumably it could then be posted in the Massage Parlor Reports thread, or the Backpage Advertiser Reviews thread (if it pertains to a Rejuve provider advertised on Backpage), or this Like Beef Lolo thread. So a thread originator/moderator doesn't have the power to censor the post from the entire forum when there are alternative threads in which it could be posted.

Note: I don't know what you tried to post, or whether or not it was appropriate, so this reply isn't any sort of approval of or agreement with the deleted posts.Actually I logged on just to start a post about this shit and I'm glad I already found one here. I think the moderators being able to delete any post on a public topic is complete bullshit. As a solution I would suggest that post be MOVED to a new topic on this board and we be allowed to view where they originate. Deleting these post doesn't really do anything helpful for the board. Was this a bad review? Someone trashing a girl? STD rumor? Someone picking a fight? On the Rejuve thread right now there are four deleted post back to back.

[BotoMoco]

Actually I logged on just to start a post about this shit and I'm glad I already found one here. I think the moderators being able to delete any post on a public topic is complete bullshit. As a solution I would suggest that post be MOVED to a new topic on this board and we be allowed to view where they originate. Deleting these post doesn't really do anything helpful for the board. Was this a bad review? Someone trashing a girl? STD rumor? Someone picking a fight? On the Rejuve thread right now there are four deleted post back to back.I have never posted a bad review about any provider or referred to anyone by name ever. These post were about the current situation with homeland security where I had stated that and replied to someones comments about being their at the wrong time. My initial post had no reference at all to Rejuve. I referred to someone elses post about homeland security sending letters to owners of MPs to provide information as to their employees or status etc. Proving their employment status. Maybe it was the wrong place to originate the post but this was in response to another guys post too. This had no derogatory comments to the MP itself just basic information and a comment back to the other forum member. Its almost dictatorship or censorship when post can get deleted as it is and the moderator deletes the whole thread. I think the moderator should be neutral if there is no harm. It really made me think if there is a deeper connection. I am not familiar with all the rules and ask for clarification and only now got one because of this. I just post honest shit not bullshit. Starting to rant now so peace out and I'm so pissed I'm going to go bust a nut this morning.

[BotoMoco]

Who are you talking about bro?I was talking about the moderator in Rejuve thread. I really don't want to have points or penalties whatever they call it put against me because I like this forum and like talking about things. Many of you Pm me that its ok to post in the like beef thread. Its like big brother is watching so have to thread lightly and watch what is being said or be banned from the site. I really felt like I had done nothing wrong but it was pointed out that it had no pertinent information to the MP itself. I think this is false too. It does have some pertinent information because not only there but all of the MPs probably are in the same situation with Homeland Security. I know for a fact of a place that got served and the owner has to go in to provide all kinds of information pertaining to employees and employment in his rental. So my comment is neither derogatory to the MP but fact to us mongers that its the game we play and hope we have the right timing an luck to not be there when the shit hits the fan.

[BotoMoco]

Presumably you're referring to the Rejuve thread, where two of your recent posts were deleted by the thread originator/moderator (not the forum administrator). As I understand it, a thread originator/moderator has authority to delete posts in his own thread without providing an explanation, even if that doesn't seem smart and/or fair to the member whose posts were deleted. However, if a post deleted from the Rejuve thread wasn't deleted by the forum administrator (A2) and doesn't violate any forum rules, presumably it could then be posted in the Massage Parlor Reports thread, or the Backpage Advertiser Reviews thread (if it pertains to a Rejuve provider advertised on Backpage), or this Like Beef Lolo thread. So a thread originator/moderator doesn't have the power to censor the post from the entire forum when there are alternative threads in which it could be posted.

Note: I don't know what you tried to post, or whether or not it was appropriate, so this reply isn't any sort of approval of or agreement with the deleted posts.Thank you for the information about censorship. I honestly believe that I did not make any derogatory comments at all. If there is a way to recover my post I would post it here for all to comment on. It started as comment back to another monger on that forum and others starting commenting and next thing everyone got deleted. Absolutely no reference to any provider, this MP in particular except for the statement I made about wishing us luck in not being there at the wrong time is the shit hit the fan. Anyway. I will try to keep my comments specifically on review on girls if its in one of the MPs threads. Big brother is watching and I don't want to be banned from this site because I love it here.

[Admin2]

Actually I logged on just to start a post about this shit and I'm glad I already found one here. I think the moderators being able to delete any post on a public topic is complete bullshit. As a solution I would suggest that post be MOVED to a new topic on this board and we be allowed to view where they originate. Deleting these post doesn't really do anything helpful for the board. Was this a bad review? Someone trashing a girl? STD rumor? Someone picking a fight? On the Rejuve thread right now there are four deleted post back to back.There's a good reason we do that in blogs.

Say some guy starts a thread about 400 pound plus chicks. I don't dig really fat chicks but I know there are guys that do. So he starts the thread and some asshole who doesn't like fat chicks keeps going into that thread saying how fucking gross fat chicks are. Then the thread starter can get rid of them. This is especially true when the asshole is a senior member on his way back to being moderated. I don't see their posts before they go live.

Here's the thing, he can't delete them, he can only make the invisible to anybody without moderator privileges. They are still there, I can see them, I can review what posts the thread starter is deleting. If you think that your posts are being deleted for a nefarious reason and enough of you write me about a thread I'll review it and see if the thread starter is overstepping. So no, your idea is not a good one and we won't be changing how we do it.

I looked at the Rejuve thread and shaggy is deleting posts that have NOTHING to do with the pussy at Rejuve. They could, though I doubt it, have something to do with the overall AMP scene in Honolulu, but there is NO reason to have a discussion about DHS on the thread that is supposed to be about chicks sucking your cock at a particular spa. Why discuss that on Rejuve?

The system works as evidenced by the Happiness thread. The original guy was abusing his privileges by deleting any posts that spoke negatively regarding that place. Somebody started a new one called Happiness reviews only about 95% of the guys moved to the new thread. I gave it a couple months to make sure that the membership wanted to be there, once I was sure I merged the two thread and made the new guy the one who can police it.

Shaggy and I have butted heads in the past but he's 100% right on this one, he's not CENSORING you BotoMoco, he's cleaning up the bullshit and taking out the garbage which saves me time.

A2

PS, he doesn't have to give you a reason. EVERYBODY thinks what they post is good solid stuff that nobody can live one more day without. None of you guys, having had a post deleted will say to yourself, "ok, that was stupid, I won't post stuff like that ON THAT THREAD anymore." EVERYONE of you will try and fight with the Admin about your post. I wouldn't answer either if I was him. If you think he's overstepping I'm the guy you talk to. If you're (universal you're) the only one writing me about it, I'll be ignoring you as well. If 5 or 10 guys write me about it then I'll go check and see what's getting deleted.

[BotoMoco]

There's a good reason we do that in blogs.

Say some guy starts a thread about 400 pound plus chicks. I don't dig really fat chicks but I know there are guys that do. So he starts the thread and some asshole who doesn't like fat chicks keeps going into that thread saying how fucking gross fat chicks are. Then the thread starter can get rid of them. This is especially true when the asshole is a senior member on his way back to being moderated. I don't see their posts before they go live.

Here's the thing, he can't delete them, he can only make the invisible to anybody without moderator privileges. They are still there, I can see them, I can review what posts the thread starter is deleting. If you think that your posts are being deleted for a nefarious reason and enough of you write me about a thread I'll review it and see if the thread starter is overstepping. So no, your idea is not a good one and we won't be changing how we do it.

I looked at the Rejuve thread and shaggy is deleting posts that have NOTHING to do with the pussy at Rejuve. They could, though I doubt it, have something to do with the overall AMP scene in Honolulu, but there is NO reason to have a discussion about DHS on the thread that is supposed to be about chicks sucking your cock at a particular spa. Why discuss that on Rejuve?

The system works as evidenced by the Happiness thread. The original guy was abusing his privileges by deleting any posts that spoke negatively regarding that place. Somebody started a new one called Happiness reviews only about 95% of the guys moved to the new thread. I gave it a couple months to make sure that the membership wanted to be there, once I was sure I merged the two thread and made the new guy the one who can police it.

Shaggy and I have butted heads in the past but he's 100% right on this one, he's not CENSORING you BotoMoco, he's cleaning up the bullshit and taking out the garbage which saves me time.

A2

PS, he doesn't have to give you a reason. EVERYBODY thinks what they post is good solid stuff that nobody can live one more day without. None of you guys, having had a post deleted will say to yourself, "ok, that was stupid, I won't post stuff like that ON THAT THREAD anymore." EVERYONE of you will try and fight with the Admin about your post. I wouldn't answer either if I was him. If you think he's overstepping I'm the guy you talk to. If you're (universal you're) the only one writing me about it, I'll be ignoring you as well. If 5 or 10 guys write me about it then I'll go check and see what's getting deleted.I agree that the post had nothing to do with pussy at rejuve. Noted and will not happen again. I will post accordingly in the right place.

Cool, I appreciate it. There are several places you could talk about that stuff, here or the General Thread.

A2

[KibeToshiKibe]

I agree that the post had nothing to do with pussy at rejuve. Noted and will not happen again. I will post accordingly in the right place.

Cool, I appreciate it. There are several places you could talk about that stuff, here or the General Thread.

A2I'm ok with fat chicks.

[HonoluluGirl]

I read someone's post that mentioned something about going over all the posts that had been written about HG (Honolulugirl) over the past 2+ years. I thought it would be an educational experience and I didn't know the half of it. I went back to the archives and moved on from there, copying and pasting comments about me into a journal. There's nothing like putting everything in one place in order to see trends. Now I see when I went wrong, why, and when I was providing good service, what I had changed. Now I have another view of the word "Mature" which is appropriately applied to me given my age (42) and my understanding. Previously, like most people, I didn't want to hear any criticism and I had to ignore it because to listen would give credence to the idea that something was wrong with me. Well of course something is wrong with me! They say there was only one perfect person, and whether you believe that or not, I don't know anyone who would put themselves in that league. Everyone had faults, big deal! And with that epiphany, I was able to not only listen without taking offense, but apply feedback--not good, not bad, but honest. Has anyone else ever looked at the history of their posts and think "wow, I can't believe I was that way before!" I never had the gift of applying suggestions when I was younger, but it is with my ever increasing maturity that I have fortunately developed it. Maturity and experience aren't the same. "Experience" might amount to little more than reinforcing the same wrong behavior repeatedly until it is ossified in your character. "Maturity" connotes change for the better, not stagnation. This information from reviews and comments is why I so appreciate people who take time out of their lives to write anything about me. I am convinced that there is indeed such a thing as bad publicity, if you depend on good publicity for clientele. But I use critiques for character development, so keep them coming.

[Cosmic Kid]

I read someone's post that mentioned something about going over all the posts that had been written about HG (Honolulugirl) over the past 2+ years. I thought it would be an educational experience and I didn't know the half of it. I went back to the archives and moved on from there, copying and pasting comments about me into a journal. There's nothing like putting everything in one place in order to see trends. Now I see when I went wrong, why, and when I was providing good service, what I had changed. Now I have another view of the word "Mature" which is appropriately applied to me given my age (42) and my understanding. Previously, like most people, I didn't want to hear any criticism and I had to ignore it because to listen would give credence to the idea that something was wrong with me. Well of course something is wrong with me! They say there was only one perfect person, and whether you believe that or not, I don't know anyone who would put themselves in that league. Everyone had faults, big deal! And with that epiphany, I was able to not only listen without taking offense, but apply feedback--not good, not bad, but honest. Has anyone else ever looked at the history of their posts and think "wow, I can't believe I was that way before!" I never had the gift of applying suggestions when I was younger, but it is with my ever increasing maturity that I have fortunately developed it. Maturity and experience aren't the same. "Experience" might amount to little more than reinforcing the same wrong behavior repeatedly until it is ossified in your character. "Maturity" connotes change for the better, not stagnation. This information from reviews and comments is why I so appreciate people who take time out of their lives to write anything about me. I am convinced that there is indeed such a thing as bad publicity, if you depend on good publicity for clientele. But I use critiques for character development, so keep them coming.My only question to you, HG, is, why did you post this in the "Like Beef Lolo?" thread? I find myself rather uplifted and inspired by your comments and observe nothing whatsoever that IMO needs to be contested or fought over! Might have perhaps been more appropriate in the "General Reports" thread? Just saying.

[TheHammah]

LOL, I'm not sure if it's because I'm crowned the forum "troll" but I had quite a few of my posts deleted or hidden even if my post was on topic about a provider pertaining to that thread. Some people just get butt hurt about people speaking the honest truth and not seeing the provider the same way they do. They probably gloat about it to the provider to earn brownie points.

[Redneck 1]

Aloha. Just want to voice my displeasure on this subject. I live on another island, and don't get to hobby as often as I'd like. With that said, I rely on this forum to depict the experience and most importantly the looks of the providers. I'm starting to see why 99% of the pictures are fake / inaccurate.

This time when I did my research, I narrowed it down to 3-4 that I wanted to see. I selected the ones who mostly got tens for looks and service. This is usually the route I go and I have to say of the approx 10 providers I've seen that were given 9/10 for looks, Shiny would be the only that would even be close to that.

I've seen Nara, Michelle, Monica, Connie, Hoshi, and Kimmy just to name a few. Although I agree that their service is very good, I don't believe any of their looks equal 10. To quote a great wrestler- they are not 4's on a good day!

I guess my only hope is that the pictures can be more accurate.

Does anyone agree or am I alone here?The irony of this is hilarious, lol.

Here's a guy who:

(1) Has been a forum member since at least January 1, 2014.

(2) Has been with more than six providers himself.

(3) Yet, to this moment, has never written and posted a review of any provider.

Nonetheless, he complains about the provider reviews of members who take the time and effort to actually write reviews.

Country music singer/songwriter Jamey Johnson, who was previously criticized by some music executives, sings a song named "Write Your Own Songs," in which calls those executives "lazy" and says: "Mr. Music Executive, why don't you write your own songs".

Likewise, rather than being a lazy parasite, go ahead and write your own reviews of providers. Especially if your ability to "accurately" evaluate the appearance of providers is as superior as you imply, your reviews should be a valuable contribution to the forum.

[HonoluluGirl]

My only question to you, HG, is, why did you post this in the "Like Beef Lolo?" thread? I find myself rather uplifted and inspired by your comments and observe nothing whatsoever that IMO needs to be contested or fought over! Might have perhaps been more appropriate in the "General Reports" thread? Just saying.The Administrator, A2, contacted me personally and told me in no uncertain terms that if I posted in any other thread I would be banned from the site, I wouldn't even be able to get reviews by others posted. But he said he liked my content bc it wasn't complaining or whiny. He said he would not warn me again bc somehow he had gotten an accurate read on my personality and said if he gave me another chance I would take it, and only when I was absolutely forbidden would I follow the rules. Quite astute of him. So, out of respect for the site, and out of gratitude that I have the writing ability that qualifies me to post on a site that would otherwise be closed to me, I follow the letter of his law.

[Lonely Smiles]

"Upscale" everytime I read this word, it kind of causes me to pause and raise an eyebrow. I mentally associate it with the opposite of upscale, like if McDonald's started offering Upscale Meals instead of value meals. I picture a girl with poor hygiene and her hands out saying "pay me you worthless John. " It's like a euphemism for "show me the Benjamin's!" "Ain't sayin' she a gold digger, but she ain't hangin' with no broke. ".

AMPs don't use it very often, but the half literate pimps who put up Indy ads for their girls seem to love it.

Same for the phrase "generous gentlemen" and "100% real".

Anyhow, just an annoyance of mine, so I figured it fits in like beef.

[Larry Hoover]

The irony of this is hilarious, lol.

Here's a guy who:

(1) Has been a forum member since at least January 1, 2014.

(2) Has been with more than six providers himself.

(3) Yet, to this moment, has never written and posted a review of any provider.

Nonetheless, he complains about the provider reviews of members who take the time and effort to actually write reviews.

Country music singer/songwriter Jamey Johnson, who was previously criticized by some music executives, sings a song named "Write Your Own Songs," in which calls those executives "lazy" and says: "Mr. Music Executive, why don't you write your own songs".

Likewise, rather than being a lazy parasite, go ahead and write your own reviews of providers. Especially if your ability to "accurately" evaluate the appearance of providers is as superior as you imply, your reviews should be a valuable contribution to the forum.He apparently has really high standards as well. He should contact porn stars if he's so disappointed with local pros.


"Upscale" everytime I read this word, it kind of causes me to pause and raise an eyebrow. I mentally associate it with the opposite of upscale, like if McDonald's started offering Upscale Meals instead of value meals. I picture a girl with poor hygiene and her hands out saying "pay me you worthless John. " It's like a euphemism for "show me the Benjamin's!" "Ain't sayin' she a gold digger, but she ain't hangin' with no broke. ".

AMPs don't use it very often, but the half literate pimps who put up Indy ads for their girls seem to love it.

Same for the phrase "generous gentlemen" and "100% real".

Anyhow, just an annoyance of mine, so I figured it fits in like beef.90% of the women that post on BP aren't upscale. So that should be a red flag.

[Cosmic Kid]

The Administrator, A2, contacted me personally and told me in no uncertain terms that if I posted in any other thread I would be banned from the site, I wouldn't even be able to get reviews by others posted. But he said he liked my content bc it wasn't complaining or whiny. He said he would not warn me again bc somehow he had gotten an accurate read on my personality and said if he gave me another chance I would take it, and only when I was absolutely forbidden would I follow the rules. Quite astute of him. So, out of respect for the site, and out of gratitude that I have the writing ability that qualifies me to post on a site that would otherwise be closed to me, I follow the letter of his law.Copy that. And mahalo for the explanation, HG. The restriction seems just a wee tad bizarre to me but, hey, A2 is the Man, and the Man rules. Otherwise we mere figwarts of the imagination risk being cast asunder hither and yon, into the darkest forlorn regions of abyssal cyberspace, never to be seen or heard from again. As an humble servant of the realm, before the Thrown I bow down in surrender, tribute, and obedience. All Hail, Great Noble Shining One! All hail, A2!

[Memahu]

I debated whether to post this on the news forum or the massage parlor reports forum. I thought more would read if it was posted here. Here goes: http://www.civilbeat.org/2016/09/candidate-qa-honolulu-prosecutor-keith-kaneshiro/.He wants an easy schedule to be able to go to the Bowl Championship Series. But, there's no BCS anymore.

[JustAMessenger]

[Deleted by Admin]

I deleted your post and banned this user because it's obviously an alias. If you have something to say just use your real account.

A2

[Cosmic Kid]

I try to keep my handle secret but maybe because of posts that weren't scrubbed, a provider I see may have figured out my handle. I posted a couple of red herrings to see if she would react. The first time I did, she contacted me pretty quickly. Most recently, things have been "stressed" between us and I posted another red herring. Soon after, she blew up my Phn with texts.

Could be coincidence, since she never mentioned posts or my handle. But, suspicious nonetheless. Anyone have a provider figure out your handle? Was it good or bad?Why you starting this convo in this thread? Seems to me more appropriate in "General Reports". IMHO.

[Jetli316]

Why you starting this convo in this thread? Seems to me more appropriate in "General Reports". IMHO.Agreed. Moved.

[Shipshape]

A few "contributors" seem to keep trying to bait HPD into doing more raids on the local AMPs. Claims of corruption, pay-offs, bribes, free service, etc are just speculation. I wonder what the purpose of that speculation is. Are these "contributors" trying to push HPD into action? Are they "do-gooders" in disguise. Exactly what is their agenda? Or are they just plain stupid and cannot see the consequences of their continued accusations.

Look, if you go to an AMP and pay a room rental fee, what's wrong with that? You meet your girlfriend there and at no time do you discuss money, what's wrong with that? If at the end of seeing your honey, you want to leave a little pocket change on the table, what's wrong with that? It would be a pretty tough case to prove anything else happened UNLESS you tell HPD what you did and why. So just shut up, smile, and be on your way. Speculating that HPD is corrupt because they don't bust some alleged illegal activity is pretty stupid IMHO. No proof means no conviction so just shut the F up. HPD knows this, and that, I speculate, is why you don't have AMPs being busted on local laws. Now, if a business is running undocumented workers, or dodging taxes on income, well that's a different story and that is where you get the feds involved with provable evidence. Get it?

Ss.

[Cosmic Kid]

A few "contributors" seem to keep trying to bait HPD into doing more raids on the local AMPs. Claims of corruption, pay-offs, bribes, free service, etc are just speculation. I wonder what the purpose of that speculation is. Are these "contributors" trying to push HPD into action? Are they "do-gooders" in disguise. Exactly what is their agenda? Or are they just plain stupid and cannot see the consequences of their continued accusations.

Look, if you go to an AMP and pay a room rental fee, what's wrong with that? You meet your girlfriend there and at no time do you discuss money, what's wrong with that? If at the end of seeing your honey, you want to leave a little pocket change on the table, what's wrong with that? It would be a pretty tough case to prove anything else happened UNLESS you tell HPD what you did and why. So just shut up, smile, and be on your way. Speculating that HPD is corrupt because they don't bust some alleged illegal activity is pretty stupid IMHO. No proof means no conviction so just shut the F up. HPD knows this, and that, I speculate, is why you don't have AMPs being busted on local laws. Now, if a business is running undocumented workers, or dodging taxes on income, well that's a different story and that is where you get the feds involved with provable evidence. Get it?
Ss.OMG, SO much rage and boiling anger, brah! More better you go take one the kine Anger Management Class, LOL. But all seriousness aside, and I'm assuming of course that you are directing your venom and hatred at me since I just posted along the lines you are screaming about; as far as I am concerned, this remains a free country, a non-fascist nation, and the THOUGHT POLICE are not in control. So I do reserve the right, in fact the RESPONSIBILITY, proudly as a free American citizen, not only to think my thoughts but to openly voice what seems pertinent, and try and figure stuff out, and to exchange with others who have the COURAGE to stand up for their ideas and concerns as well. This remains a free country, my man, and free speech rules, bottom line, end of story. So, to your scared cowardly PARANOID self who is so afraid of speaking up and exposing the powers-that-be, I say, NEVER TELL ME WHAT I CAN AND CANNOT FUCKING TALK ABOUT!

CK out.

[Shipshape]

OMG, SO much rage and boiling anger, brah! More better you go take one the kine Anger Management Class, LOL. But all seriousness aside, and I'm assuming of course that you are directing your venom and hatred at me since I just posted along the lines you are screaming about; as far as I am concerned, this remains a free country, a non-fascist nation, and the THOUGHT POLICE are not in control. So I do reserve the right, in fact the RESPONSIBILITY, proudly as a free American citizen, not only to think my thoughts but to openly voice what seems pertinent, and try and figure stuff out, and to exchange with others who have the COURAGE to stand up for their ideas and concerns as well. This remains a free country, my man, and free speech rules, bottom line, end of story. So, to your scared cowardly PARANOID self who is so afraid of speaking up and exposing the powers-that-be, I say, NEVER TELL ME WHAT I CAN AND CANNOT FUCKING TALK ABOUT!

CK out.Either it is my poor attempt at writing or it is your inability to read. Both references to "shut the F up" were intended as advice if caught in a raid, not, as you suggest, to tell you what to do or say. Questioning the agenda of certain contributors must have hit a chord with you so if the shoe fits, well there yah go. My basic point is to question certain contributors intentions. Speculation as to the lack of involvement by HPD can only lead to what? Show your proof and I'm on board. Show the logic of what you say and then count me in. Speculate and bait, well it tells a lot and deserves no further discussion.

Ss.

[DangerBoy]

Show your proof and I'm on board. Show the logic of what you say and then count me in. From a series published in the Star Advertiser last month (names redacted, but are found in the articles):

HPD Soft on Discipline — http://www.staradvertiser.com/2016/08/22/hawaii-news/hpd-soft-on-discipline/.

From the article: "When the victim, who was not arrested, asked the officer for his badge number, the officer refused to provide it. The officer also failed to submit a police report on the incident.

After the victim complained, the Honolulu Police Department opened a felony assault investigation, confirming the injury and the officer's actions. His punishment was a one-day suspension.

"Even a New York professor who teaches police ethics classes said she was familiar with the leniency of HPD sanctions. ".

Names of police officers disciplined for misconduct not released to public http://www.staradvertiser.com/2016/08/22/hawaii-news/names-of-police-officers-disciplined-for-misconduct-not-released-to-public/.

From the article: "Short of being fired, police disciplined for misconduct are the only county and state workers in Hawaii whose names under state law cannot be released publicly. ".

"XXXX was accused of extorting money from the operator of an illegal gambling house and trying to cover it up. The former major eventually pleaded guilty to lying to the FBI and filing a false tax return. Charges of extortion conspiracy, witness tampering and other alleged crimes were dropped as part of a 2013 plea deal. XXXX, who retired from HPD, initially was investigated by his own agency. But after that went nowhere, the FBI took over and, with new information, obtained a conviction in federal court. XXXX in 2013 was sentenced to eight months in prison. ".

"XXX admitted to using the names and Social Security numbers of two other officers and forging their signatures to get special-duty work. He left the force after police became aware of the offenses. XXXX told the court he knew what he did was wrong but thought it wasn't criminal. ".

"XXX Sentenced in July to three months in jail and three months of home confinement for knowingly buying and selling a stolen vehicle".

"XXX Pleaded guilty to extorting money from bar owner".

"XXX Assisted in illegal gambling operations, concealed and attempted to dispose of illegal gambling documents, failed to enforce criminal laws".

"XXX Prosecuted for failure to report game room assault by fellow officer".

And the list goes on.

Survey of Honolulu Police Department officer misconduct surprises national experts http://www.staradvertiser.com/2016/08/21/hawaii-news/survey-of-honolulu-police-department-officer-misconduct-surprises-national-experts/.

From the article: "Nearly 1 of every 6 current Honolulu Police Department officers have been taken to court over criminal or civil allegations of wrongdoing, ranging from excessive force to domestic abuse, according to a first-of-its-kind analysis by the Honolulu Star-Advertiser. ".

"To have the percentage you found is really just astonishing to me," said XXXX, professor emeritus at the University of Nebraska's School of Criminology and Criminal Justice in Omaha. ".

From Hawaii News Now:

Man who triggered FBI probe into HPD chief goes before grand jury http://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/story/33163725/relative-at-center-of-fbi-probe-into-honolulus-police-chief-goes-before-grand-jury.

HPD officer accused of bribing prostitute won't face criminal charges http://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/story/32852221/hpd-officer-accused-of-bribing-hooker-will-not-face-criminal-charges.

Feds: Hawaii brothel owner bribed agents for protection http://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/story/32015201/feds-hawaii-brothel-owner-bribed-agents-for-protection.

From the article: "A criminal complaint filed Tuesday in federal court accuses XXXX of bribing Homeland Security Investigations special agents last year. The document says she made the offer after two Chinese women at her massage parlor were arrested for prostitution. She allegedly told the agents she wants the same arrangement her friend has with a Honolulu law enforcement officer. ".

And why is is that the feds seems to be the only ones who can make a successful prosecution? Curious.


Either it is my poor attempt at writing or it is your inability to read.It's you. It's all you.

[Goser]

Last night, I spent 2 hours talking to Star using a very bad translation program. The bottom line is that during that conversation, we determined that she has a stalker and he is the person who created the above aliases.

Last night, he sent me 2 private messages. The first from BigOldPatrolman asked me why I defended Star against his allegations that she has an STD. I responded to him saying I talked to her and that she said he is lying. I told him if he is indeed telling the truth that he should message me the details and I would verify his claims either way. The second message was from the I'd Starsboyfriend. This guy said that he was Stars boyfriend and he would come after me if I tried to take her out and try to become her boyfriend. He also said that she has a child with him in Korea. Star was in shock at these allegations and denied them all. She wanted to cry and asked why people are treating her like this. Well, it turns out it is just one person.

After she confirmed that this guy was a fraud, we put two and two together. BigOldPatrolman contacted me in June (I checked my private messages and A2 can look there to verify my claims if he likes) asking for Star's telephone number in Korea because he said he was going there. He said she provided it to him, but he lost his phone. Of course, I summarily rejected his request.

What the hell kind of sick people are out there who would make up such lies? What I determined is that this guy is a jilted wannabee lover to Star. By the way, if anyone doubts how good Star is, this proves it. Star does not send mixed messages about how she feels about you. She is just an escort. She will not do what some girls do by whispering sweet nothings at you like saying, "I love you" or "I want to marry you" or "you are my boyfriend" or stuff like that.

Shit the same thing happened with Bin. I hope it wasn't the same person. For what it's worth, Star is just a friend. I have no intentions of trying to be her boyfriend. Same is true with all the other girls with whom I have a good relationship. I just treat them well and they treat me well and they have great sex with me. That's what this hobby is for. It's not to find a girlfriend or wife. If you want that, go to match.com or eharmony.

[Shipshape]

From a series published in the Star Advertiser last month (names redacted, but are found in the articles):

HPD Soft on Discipline http://www.staradvertiser.com/2016/08/22/hawaii-news/hpd-soft-on-discipline/.


And why is is that the feds seems to be the only ones who can make a successful prosecution? Curious.

It's you. It's all you.Your post was only redacted to save space. It is an excellent compilation of showing that HPD does indeed have "issues" within the department. I do appreciate that you took the time to compile to demonstrate it. However, back on point. What is gained by the listing? What is the potential outcome (s). What is the agenda? I for one, am interested in only one thing and that is to find my favorite and safe "watering holes". I value the reports on busts to be sure as those reports can and do effect my meandering decisions. Claims of corruption serve no purpose other than to expose it. Why? What's the point of doing that in THIS forum? Please note I realize and with your extensive cut and paste you have clearly demonstrated it exists. I do not deny that at all. I just am curious why on this particular forum some folks post what appears to be complaints about corruption. What do they want, for it to go away and to have HPD clean up their act? I don't. In fact, I wish there was MORE so we could enjoy this hobby in peace. That's it, pretty simple.

Ss.

[DangerBoy]

I just am curious why on this particular forum some folks post what appears to be complaints about corruption. What do they want, for it to go away and to have HPD clean up their act? I don't. In fact, I wish there was MORE so we could enjoy this hobby in peace. That's it, pretty simple.

Ss.Whenever there's a bust, people are always looking for a reason as to why it happened. Why this AMP and not that AMP? And my speculation has always, as demonstrated from the evidence at hand, that someone didn't pay Officer Friendly his protection money. I am offering my thoughts, supported by my own experience of being born, raised, and educated here, moving to the mainland and coming back. It's also my right.

Now, I will agree that corrupt cops are keeping the AMPs open. My problem is that you can't trust a corrupt cop. Let's say you get busted in a raid. Sure, the conventional wisdom is that they'll just let you go. But what if they see that nice Mercedes you just rolled up in, notice that Swiss watch strapped to your wrist and that roll of Benjis in your pocket? What's to stop them from shaking YOU down, and to keep on shaking you down if you have a marriage you want to preserve or a job that requires you don't get into any trouble? I've mongered in Tijuana a few times, and you do not want to have anything to do with the cops there.

I also have an extreme distrust of anyone who tells me I should put my blind faith that they will always do the right thing. But then again, the evidence being what it is, it's not like there's nothing to make think otherwise, either. Anytime you have an organization coming into contact with an illegal business that generated a lot of cash, the end result will always be corruption. It is the nature of people to look out for themselves. Even if the HPD were to clean up its act, what it would really mean is that someone's offering double, or triple what they previously offering.

Am I antagonizing them? I sincerely doubt it. I believe the AMP owner that got busted by the feds offered about $5 k, so we can assume that's the going rate and it's being paid out on a regular basis. With that much money rolling in, from the AMPs in town, they could care less about the conspiratorial rantings of one person on a bulletin board. They're way too busy counting their cash and trying to figure out how to hide it (though according to those links, some of them aren't so good at that, either.). Their own chief is under federal investigation and he still has his badge, and if that isn't making them worry, what I'm saying certainly won't.

And I'm just saying what a lot of people, not just on this board, say out loud. If the HPD was that concerned about keeping up appearances, they would have pretended to do something a long time ago. I'm sure you're heard other people saying the same thing, who aren't even interested in the AMP scene here. Corruption, be it overt like like a cop taking a bribe or a BJ, to something more subtle like using a family connection to secure a good job, seems to be baked into the fabric of society here. You can't even make the case that it's an "acceptable" level of corruption. I'm just sick of it.

[PanochaMan]

Whenever there's a bust, people are always looking for a reason as to why it happened. Why this AMP and not that AMP? And my speculation has always, as demonstrated from the evidence at hand, that someone didn't pay Officer Friendly his protection money. I am offering my thoughts, supported by my own experience of being born, raised, and educated here, moving to the mainland and coming back. It's also my right.

Now, I will agree that corrupt cops are keeping the AMPs open. My problem is that you can't trust a corrupt cop. Let's say you get busted in a raid. Sure, the conventional wisdom is that they'll just let you go. But what if they see that nice Mercedes you just rolled up in, notice that Swiss watch strapped to your wrist and that roll of Benjis in your pocket? What's to stop them from shaking YOU down, and to keep on shaking you down if you have a marriage you want to preserve or a job that requires you don't get into any trouble? I've mongered in Tijuana a few times, and you do not want to have anything to do with the cops there.

I also have an extreme distrust of anyone who tells me I should put my blind faith that they will always do the right thing. But then again, the evidence being what it is, it's not like there's nothing to make think otherwise, either. Anytime you have an organization coming into contact with an illegal business that generated a lot of cash, the end result will always be corruption. It is the nature of people to look out for themselves. Even if the HPD were to clean up its act, what it would really mean is that someone's offering double, or triple what they previously offering.

Am I antagonizing them? I sincerely doubt it. I believe the AMP owner that got busted by the feds offered about $5 k, so we can assume that's the going rate and it's being paid out on a regular basis. With that much money rolling in, from the AMPs in town, they could care less about the conspiratorial rantings of one person on a bulletin board. They're way too busy counting their cash and trying to figure out how to hide it (though according to those links, some of them aren't so good at that, either.). Their own chief is under federal investigation and he still has his badge, and if that isn't making them worry, what I'm saying certainly won't.

And I'm just saying what a lot of people, not just on this board, say out loud. If the HPD was that concerned about keeping up appearances, they would have pretended to do something a long time ago. I'm sure you're heard other people saying the same thing, who aren't even interested in the AMP scene here. Corruption, be it overt like like a cop taking a bribe or a BJ, to something more subtle like using a family connection to secure a good job, seems to be baked into the fabric of society here. You can't even make the case that it's an "acceptable" level of corruption. I'm just sick of it.I didn't grow up here, and have only lived here a couple of years, so I'm asking this question to all the born and bread locals. Has anyone ever played for or known someone who played for the HPD police youth athletic league? Donations to police youth athletic leagues is so common on the mainland that it's been a cliche in movies for decades. Or, for that matter, the police retirement fund. Same kind of scam.

[BJ Hawaii]

I didn't grow up here, and have only lived here a couple of years, so I'm asking this question to all the born and bread locals. Has anyone ever played for or known someone who played for the HPD police youth athletic league? Donations to police youth athletic leagues is so common on the mainland that it's been a cliche in movies for decades. Or, for that matter, the police retirement fund. Same kind of scam.I've played "PAL" sports when I was a kid and coached several sports as an adult. I don't recall ever making a $ donation to them but I've literally donated hundreds of hours of my time coaching.

PAL or the "Police Activities League" is organized by HPD officers. They are broken down by district and each district has one or two cops assigned to create and organize different sports leagues. Most common is baseball but there are also flag football and volleyball leagues around the island. HPD officers are usually the league directors. They arrange for the park venues, get the refs (most of them also ref themselves) and create the schedule and league rules. Various community groups / clubs will provide the teams. Usually not as competitive as say, Cal Ripken or Pony baseball. Emphasis is on keeping the kids off the street rather than fostering competition, although as with anything parent involved, it can get competitive!

Like you, I've seen the donation stickers and made the same assumptions you did. I believe PAL is a worthwhile endeavor and is generally subsidized out of HPD's budget. Not sure how it works with the AMPs and donations though.

BJ.

[Cosmic Kid]

Whenever there's a bust, people are always looking for a reason as to why it happened. Why this AMP and not that AMP? And my speculation has always, as demonstrated from the evidence at hand, that someone didn't pay Officer Friendly his protection money. I am offering my thoughts, supported by my own experience of being born, raised, and educated here, moving to the mainland and coming back. It's also my right.

Now, I will agree that corrupt cops are keeping the AMPs open. My problem is that you can't trust a corrupt cop. Let's say you get busted in a raid. Sure, the conventional wisdom is that they'll just let you go. But what if they see that nice Mercedes you just rolled up in, notice that Swiss watch strapped to your wrist and that roll of Benjis in your pocket? What's to stop them from shaking YOU down, and to keep on shaking you down if you have a marriage you want to preserve or a job that requires you don't get into any trouble? I've mongered in Tijuana a few times, and you do not want to have anything to do with the cops there.

I also have an extreme distrust of anyone who tells me I should put my blind faith that they will always do the right thing. But then again, the evidence being what it is, it's not like there's nothing to make think otherwise, either. Anytime you have an organization coming into contact with an illegal business that generated a lot of cash, the end result will always be corruption. It is the nature of people to look out for themselves. Even if the HPD were to clean up its act, what it would really mean is that someone's offering double, or triple what they previously offering.

Am I antagonizing them? I sincerely doubt it. I believe the AMP owner that got busted by the feds offered about $5 k, so we can assume that's the going rate and it's being paid out on a regular basis. With that much money rolling in, from the AMPs in town, they could care less about the conspiratorial rantings of one person on a bulletin board. They're way too busy counting their cash and trying to figure out how to hide it (though according to those links, some of them aren't so good at that, either.). Their own chief is under federal investigation and he still has his badge, and if that isn't making them worry, what I'm saying certainly won't.

And I'm just saying what a lot of people, not just on this board, say out loud. If the HPD was that concerned about keeping up appearances, they would have pretended to do something a long time ago. I'm sure you're heard other people saying the same thing, who aren't even interested in the AMP scene here. Corruption, be it overt like like a cop taking a bribe or a BJ, to something more subtle like using a family connection to secure a good job, seems to be baked into the fabric of society here. You can't even make the case that it's an "acceptable" level of corruption. I'm just sick of it.Well said, DangerBoy! Lot of pertinent and articulate commentary you've offered here. I was definitely speculating in my post in the General thread about possible HPD corruption. I just think it's a really interesting topic, I had no other motive for voicing my ideas on the matter. Shipshape, my brother from another mother, his concerns about "agendas" and "baiting", if in fact meant to be aimed in my direction, or at least meant to include me, unfortunately go right over my head. Frankly, I'm too naive a person to even HAVE an agenda! I'm curious about what goes on around me, that's about it. And I find the AMP dynamic in Honolulu to be quite an intriguing phenomenon! On the one hand, I'm in complete agreement on how much it sucks that there apparently is corruption in local LE because this means you can never really trust in the guys and gals in blue who are supposedly there to protect you and I, and your tax dollars pay those guys' salaries! But, since prostitution is illegal here in Hawaii, and as there seems to be some agreement, on this board anyway, that legalized prostitution would actually create a number of new problems for our hobby and also for the providers, then maybe we as mongers are better off with the AMP sex biz remaining under the table, and I repeat what I speculated in my other post, IF LE's on the take from the AMPs, then it's in LE's best interest NOT to shut down all the AMPs, and therefore, unfortunately, the corrupt cops are actually protecting our ability to have relatively safe and sanitary venues where we can continue to indulge in our hobby, and viewed in this light, police corruption is our ally! Seriously and honestly, I have no agenda, I just find this, as I said, a fascinating and intriguing sociological phenomenon. The juxtaposition of conflicting cultural values, physical needs, and political realities is totally trippy IMHO! What a CRAZY world we live in! Just saying.

CK out.

[DangerBoy]

I've played "PAL" sports when I was a kid and coached several sports as an adult. I don't recall ever making a $ donation to them but I've literally donated hundreds of hours of my time coaching.

PAL or the "Police Activities League" is organized by HPD officers. They are broken down by district and each district has one or two cops assigned to create and organize different sports leagues. Most common is baseball but there are also flag football and volleyball leagues around the island. HPD officers are usually the league directors. They arrange for the park venues, get the refs (most of them also ref themselves) and create the schedule and league rules. Various community groups / clubs will provide the teams. Usually not as competitive as say, Cal Ripken or Pony baseball. Emphasis is on keeping the kids off the street rather than fostering competition, although as with anything parent involved, it can get competitive!

Like you, I've seen the donation stickers and made the same assumptions you did. I believe PAL is a worthwhile endeavor and is generally subsidized out of HPD's budget. Not sure how it works with the AMPs and donations though.

BJ.It's been awhile, but aren't contributions to SHOPO (the police union) and the window decal they give you considered to be the "golden ticket" to get out of speeding citations and that sort of thing? I know some people who would put HPD caps in their rear windows too. But now that I think about it, I haven't seen either of those since I've gotten back.

When I worked in retail, maybe 15 years ago, a rep from the sheriff's department came asking for donations to something they were doing. He said they'd throw in a window decal, but even he joked it wasn't like getting a SHOPO sticker.

But I do remember that in California, the CHP's 11-99 Foundation (and the license plate frame they gave out) supposedly got you out of tickets. Not sure what the equivalent for the LAPD would be.

[BJ Hawaii]

It's been awhile, but aren't contributions to SHOPO (the police union) and the window decal they give you considered to be the "golden ticket" to get out of speeding citations and that sort of thing? I know some people who would put HPD caps in their rear windows too. But now that I think about it, I haven't seen either of those since I've gotten back.

When I worked in retail, maybe 15 years ago, a rep from the sheriff's department came asking for donations to something they were doing. He said they'd throw in a window decal, but even he joked it wasn't like getting a SHOPO sticker.

But I do remember that in California, the CHP's 11-99 Foundation (and the license plate frame they gave out) supposedly got you out of tickets. Not sure what the equivalent for the LAPD would be.LOL! I've had the Sheriffs solicit me too! SHOPO is different from PAL which actually a part of HPD itself, but yes, I've seen both SHOPO and PAL stickers on various establishments and vehicles. Now that you mention it, I think I still have a PAL t-shirt. I should wear it next time I make a visit!

BJ.

[PanochaMan]

I've played "PAL" sports when I was a kid and coached several sports as an adult. I don't recall ever making a $ donation to them but I've literally donated hundreds of hours of my time coaching.

PAL or the "Police Activities League" is organized by HPD officers. They are broken down by district and each district has one or two cops assigned to create and organize different sports leagues. Most common is baseball but there are also flag football and volleyball leagues around the island. HPD officers are usually the league directors. They arrange for the park venues, get the refs (most of them also ref themselves) and create the schedule and league rules. Various community groups / clubs will provide the teams. Usually not as competitive as say, Cal Ripken or Pony baseball. Emphasis is on keeping the kids off the street rather than fostering competition, although as with anything parent involved, it can get competitive!

Like you, I've seen the donation stickers and made the same assumptions you did. I believe PAL is a worthwhile endeavor and is generally subsidized out of HPD's budget. Not sure how it works with the AMPs and donations though.

BJ.Cool, then our favorite establishments are very civic minded. Thanks for helping me out there.

[Slide Hammer]

It's bound to happen if they chick is kpop hot and provides the service she's capable of. I would know. In any event she's got a dude who's infatuated with who's giving her the serious Willies. It's funny that the dude tried to say she had a rumored illness but that he had it with her anyway using a condom. Who the F willingly sees an actually rumored sick person? Wanted to comment on it then but I was too lazy to type. Trust me I laughed when I read that poor attempt. Dudes a straight liar but she's also rubbed some in the biz the wrong way and we theorized it might be them hiring negative shills. I saw a strange luggish dude full on obsessing over her calling out her name I just thought he was drunk but more I think about it this dude is probsbly him.

I told her she should get a job at a hostess bar. She'd probably make more for giving out less. I also informed her of the ghonnorrea scare on the islands and told her to take a break for now. She thanked me profusely. Who knows if she takes a break tho. I know I am. She's a sweetheart tho and wish nothing but good for her.

Anyong Star.

[Shipshape]

Well said, DangerBoy! Lot of pertinent and articulate commentary you've offered here. I was definitely speculating in my post in the General thread about possible HPD corruption.But, since prostitution is illegal here in Hawaii, and as there seems to be some agreement, on this board anyway, that legalized prostitution would actually create a number of new problems for our hobby and also for the providers, then maybe we as mongers are better off with the AMP sex biz remaining under the table, and I repeat what I speculated in my other post,
CK out.Well explained and I appreciate the thoughts contained within these referenced posts by CK and DangerBoy. While I may disagree about corruption being a bad thing in all circumstances, I do not disagree that it exists within HPD. Just off the top of my head I can think of 3 times I was pulled over for a driving infraction. I "played humble" and I played "who do you and I know". I was let go without a deserved ticket in those cases. I suppose that could be considered corruption, in that, the cop should have given me a ticket, technically. Well, I will admit, I was glad they didn't. Corruption comes in many forms, I just seem to consider it a live and let live kind of thing. Yes, I have a line in the sand, but I guess my line is a little further down the road (I won't get started on human trafficking). Technically, the 90 day wonder girls at even the KB's seem to be able to exist as an acceptable level of corruption (and I'm glad for it). Now, the feds don't seem to have too much tolerance. Perhaps, it is because many are assigned here and are not life long members of this community. Don't know the reasons and this is just speculation, but it may be because they go after provable offences (no pay tax, illegal aliens).

As to the thinking that prostitution is better not to be legalized, I'm clueless on that one. What are the problems of legalized prostitution? Not baiting here, I just don't see the downside.

Ss.

[DangerBoy]

As to the thinking that prostitution is better not to be legalized, I'm clueless on that one. What are the problems of legalized prostitution? Not baiting here, I just don't see the downside.Don't know if you've ever been to a brothel in Nevada like The Moonlite Bunny Ranch, but that's where I usually draw comparisons. So, the ranch, and most brothels in Nevada, are out on a remote location in the hinterlands of the town they're a part of. The girls could commute if they lived in the town, but most of them live on premises because it's a 24 and pretty much 7 job. Since it's legal, it's regulated. Like I mentioned, the location is remote because they don't want the brothel anywhere near someone "impressionable" or who could be "offended". But that also means they have to adhere to whatever laws and regulations the department of health comes up with. So everything's covered. Forget about kissing, GFE, PSE, BBFS or anything else you're getting from your ATF if she decides to pack up and go legit.

Also, here's the economics of working in a legal brothel: the house takes half. They charge them to use the rooms in the brothel (which they have to use because they have to work there). They also charge for room and board. STD tests are on them. They're woken up in the middle of the night to do lineups. I'm also sure there's a bunch of fees I'm not aware of that they also pay. So they walk away with well less than half what their customers are paying to begin with.

Several other members, and I'm inclined to agree with them, is that decriminalization would be a better route. You're a consenting adult, I'm a consenting adult, we're hurting no one and this business transaction is entirely between us. Cover, no cover, kissing, no kissing, whatever you two decide is between the two of you.

In the legal model, a girl would need a pimp (a brothel owner with the license and paperwork); in a the decriminalized model, what someone does with their own body is their own business.

That being said, I don't see either happening any time soon. Someone proposed a legal model on one of the other boards in five years. But Hawaii's a very socially conservative place so state-sanctioned brothels isn't happening anytime soon (never mind that it would create jobs, a new tax base and encourage businesses to grow, but the fucked up nature of the state's business climate is another discussion entirely). Forget about decriminalization as well, as the state of Hawaii's never seen a tax it didn't like and the prevailing socially conservative climate here -- I doubt marijuana decriminalization would pass in the next 10 years here, so why would decriminalizing prostitution? In order for sex work decriminalization to really work, it would have to be normalized within society. Saying you're going to bang your ATF at her incall would have be accepted in the same way someone saying they're going to a sports bar to watch football. We're a long way from that.

A couple of other thoughts that leads back to our original conversation: crime = money. In one sense, I mean federal grants. The feds give money for fighting drugs. If you legalize / decriminalize weed, you're cutting off money the feds would give the local PD. It cuts off another reason the PD would seize money and property under asset forfeiture laws. This is also true of legalization or decriminalization of prostitution because of the current human trafficking hysteria. There's federal money in fighting prostitution and, yes, asset forfeiture property and cash in keeping it illegal (don't know if Hawaii has an asset forfeiture law for prostitution, but I know some cities seize the cars of mongers who've been arrested, not convicted but arrested, of solicitation).

Police departments always come out against these proposals and though it's unsaid, it's because they want those grants. Never mind that crimes should really be offenses against property or people and that drugs and prostitution (when it's done willingly) are victimless crimes. So when I talk about corruption, you can think about it in the larger sense of those federal grants and asset seizures. Now, think about all that money floating around when a cop busts a drug dealer, a gambling hall (ever wonder why Hawaii's the only state, aside from Utah, that has absolutely no gambling?) or a massage parlor. Why would you make those busts? Why wouldn't you just enter into an arrangement with them? That's corruption on the scale of the individual cops. But they can't be too successful in shutting them down, because if they did go away, well, so would the grants and payoffs.

So that's my final point. Even though the cops on the beat level probably don't care about marijuana, gambling, hookers and probably could care less about what guys like us do with their cash, they have an interest in keeping the status quo because of anything they're getting on the side. The institution of law enforcement is corrupt because of the funding they receive for towing the line and enforcing morality and individual cops have an extra line of income coming in.

While this maintains the environment we know now, and while it's fairly easy to maneuver the way things are because of the inherent corruption in the system, wouldn't it be a better system if the government lets adults be adults?

[Nutmaker]

I am no longer the moderator of the Happiness thread. After several discussions with him, Admin has relieved me of those duties in his infinite wisdom, so please don't pm me with questions or concerns regarding that thread. Mahalo for your Kokua.

[Happy Seeker 8]

Come guys' If I don't have to- I don't like to PM. This leaves a lot of people out of info, (while) only answering 1 person-.

BUT- if certain people want to PM me on "sensitive" single matters because they know I have discreet info. (about). FIRST THING, CLEAR / EMPTY YOUR F* BOXES.

Haw* What you PM'd me about has been confirmed, but not verified-RE: V-Dream, but how am I supposed to get this info to you?

Damn, this forum lets you save 99 PM's?

H-S-8.

[GofasBits]

Who was the one that was talking about Sandvolleyball being a shill of some sort for Aloha Me? I can't seem to find those posts anywhere. Well here's some controversial proof to support that person's claims http://www.************.com/SandVolleyball. Think what you will, but I think that person was on to something!

[Happy Seeker 8]

Come guys' If I don't have to- I don't like to PM. This leaves a lot of people out of info, (while) only answering 1 person-.

BUT- if certain people want to PM me on "sensitive" single matters because they know I have discreet info. (about). FIRST THING, CLEAR / EMPTY YOUR F* BOXES.

Haw* What you PM'd me about has been confirmed, but not verified-RE: V-Dream, but how am I supposed to get this info to you?

Damn, this forum lets you save 99 PM's?

H-S-8.My report should have opened with. "come on guys" and this forum lets you save 200 PM's.

[P Venkman]

Last night, I spent 2 hours talking to Star using a very bad translation program. The bottom line is that during that conversation, we determined that she has a stalker and he is the person who created the above aliases.

Last night, he sent me 2 private messages. The first from BigOldPatrolman asked me why I defended Star against his allegations that she has an STD. I responded to him saying I talked to her and that she said he is lying. I told him if he is indeed telling the truth that he should message me the details and I would verify his claims either way. The second message was from the I'd Starsboyfriend. This guy said that he was Stars boyfriend and he would come after me if I tried to take her out and try to become her boyfriend. He also said that she has a child with him in Korea. Star was in shock at these allegations and denied them all. She wanted to cry and asked why people are treating her like this. Well, it turns out it is just one person.

After she confirmed that this guy was a fraud, we put two and two together. BigOldPatrolman contacted me in June (I checked my private messages and A2 can look there to verify my claims if he likes) asking for Star's telephone number in Korea because he said he was going there. He said she provided it to him, but he lost his phone. Of course, I summarily rejected his request.

What the hell kind of sick people are out there who would make up such lies? What I determined is that this guy is a jilted wannabee lover to Star. By the way, if anyone doubts how good Star is, this proves it. Star does not send mixed messages about how she feels about you. She is just an escort. She will not do what some girls do by whispering sweet nothings at you like saying, "I love you" or "I want to marry you" or "you are my boyfriend" or stuff like that.

Shit the same thing happened with Bin. I hope it wasn't the same person. For what it's worth, Star is just a friend. I have no intentions of trying to be her boyfriend. Same is true with all the other girls with whom I have a good relationship. I just treat them well and they treat me well and they have great sex with me. That's what this hobby is for. It's not to find a girlfriend or wife. If you want that, go to match.com or eharmony.Whoever goes to AMPs to find a gf is going to be seriously dissappointed! That's all I going to say.

[HonoluluGirl]

Last night, I spent 2 hours talking to Star using a very bad translation program. The bottom line is that during that conversation, we determined that she has a stalker and he is the person who created the above aliases.

Last night, he sent me 2 private messages. The first from BigOldPatrolman asked me why I defended Star against his allegations that she has an STD. I responded to him saying I talked to her and that she said he is lying. I told him if he is indeed telling the truth that he should message me the details and I would verify his claims either way. The second message was from the I'd Starsboyfriend. This guy said that he was Stars boyfriend and he would come after me if I tried to take her out and try to become her boyfriend. He also said that she has a child with him in Korea. Star was in shock at these allegations and denied them all. She wanted to cry and asked why people are treating her like this. Well, it turns out it is just one person.

After she confirmed that this guy was a fraud, we put two and two together. BigOldPatrolman contacted me in June (I checked my private messages and A2 can look there to verify my claims if he likes) asking for Star's telephone number in Korea because he said he was going there. He said she provided it to him, but he lost his phone. Of course, I summarily rejected his request.

What the hell kind of sick people are out there who would make up such lies? What I determined is that this guy is a jilted wannabee lover to Star. By the way, if anyone doubts how good Star is, this proves it. Star does not send mixed messages about how she feels about you. She is just an escort. She will not do what some girls do by whispering sweet nothings at you like saying, "I love you" or "I want to marry you" or "you are my boyfriend" or stuff like that.

Shit the same thing happened with Bin. I hope it wasn't the same person. For what it's worth, Star is just a friend. I have no intentions of trying to be her boyfriend. Same is true with all the other girls with whom I have a good relationship. I just treat them well and they treat me well and they have great sex with me. That's what this hobby is for. It's not to find a girlfriend or wife. If you want that, go to match.com or eharmony.I.

Thank you forthe expense of time and effort it took for you to support the cause of truth by writing a well researched post that rightfully defends a provider who has been good to you. It is always a pleasure to see loyalty balanced by the proper perspective regarding our hobby.

[BotoMoco]

How do post get counted? I did two separate reviews on korean bars and they both say 107. Are post counted by days or numbers of different post made?

By an old Chinese lady with an abacus. Then she sends hand written notes to Liberia where we outsource the manual addition of the data using a really complex cell phone app running on an Android platform that doesn't work very well.

A2

[BotoMoco]

So I've noticed some of my post or comments don't even make it to the forum. What bunch of shit this is. My latest was my question on how do post get counted whether its by the day or number of actual post. I had two post that had the same count on them. I got a wise remark from big brother about how its counted which wasn't a fucking answer but some snide remark. My comment was about this and it never made it to post. WTF. I've had two others like this and I had let those slide thinking nothing of it. This is the third one and without reasoning for not posting I think that its a bunch of bullshit to censor it. Just my thoughts.

Because I'm not the only one that gets tired of reading your bullshit. You're the single most reported member in the Hawaii forums. So the dumb posts, that I know 15 guys are going to end up reporting I just delete them.

Today I spent the last 5 hours dealing with the Russian spam crew that's been sending PM's to everybody. Some days I just don't have time for stupid shit so I use the delete button instead.

Here's a tip, I'll never delete a post where you're actually talking about actual pussy that you have actually fucked.

A2

[Macko69]

So I've read alot about joon. All good stuff, will probably try her out assuming she is not TS. One of my buddies in the hobby told me she's a TS?! Is that true?So some guy with 3 posts decides he wants to say shit about one of the most favorably reviewed (and frequently reviewed) providers. But he knows that he can't come right out and say it because his post will be deleted, so he starts off by saying something good, then he throws in a piece of bullshit disguised as a question. What a shithead.

[Corvette808]

Aloha. I was curious to see why we don't have a sugar baby area to post in? I've been having some amazing luck and want to share but I'm not sure what area to post it in. Thanks and your the man A2. Also joon is cool as long as you stay on her good side. I got blocked but I can vouch for her wonderful service.

[Lonely Smiles]

Aloha. I was curious to see why we don't have a sugar baby area to post in? I've been having some amazing luck and want to share but I'm not sure what area to post it in. Scroll down the first page 3/4 of the way down. "Sugar Babies / Arrangements" thread. You can toot your horn there. If you include something that's useful for other dudes looking to give it a try, it may be better received than a humble brag post.

[Lonely Smiles]

So some guy with 3 posts decides he wants to say shit about one of the most favorably reviewed (and frequently reviewed) providers. But he knows that he can't come right out and say it because his post will be deleted, so he starts off by saying something good, then he throws in a piece of bullshit disguised as a question. What a shithead.Yeah, it does come off sketchy. It takes 5 seconds with the search engine to pull up dozens of reviews on Joon. She is well reviewed and 100% an athletic, full bodied woman.

Some guys lack tact and empathy, like the late TheHammah, RIP another screen name(if you are reading this, nice job getting another screen name banned BTW!) They choose not to pause for reflection before posting and refuse to self censor. And other times it's a stooge with an agenda.

[Admin2]

How do post get counted? I did two separate reviews on korean bars and they both say 107. Are post counted by days or numbers of different post made?

By an old Chinese lady with an abacus. Then she sends hand written notes to Liberia where we outsource the manual addition of the data using a really complex cell phone app running on an Android platform that doesn't work very well.

A2Mea culpa, I should have just thrown the flag for messages to admin instead of trying to be cute.

The bad is indeed my own on this one.

Before you get started, the bad is not my own on the post below. I stand by those words.

A2.

[Nutmaker]

Mea culpa, I should have just thrown the flag for messages to admin instead of trying to be cute.

The bad is indeed my own on this one.

Before you get started, the bad is not my own on the post below. I stand by those words.

A2.Looks like a general question that any member could have answered or directed him to the answer, not necessarily addressed to admin. Physic much?

Hence the apology. Which is what grownups do when they err.

I'm pretty sure, but by no means certain, that you are trying to insult me with the "Physic much" thing but I'm unclear as to what it means so sadly it sailed past. If you're asking me if I practice medicine the answer would be no.

Just saying,

A2

[AlohaJ]

Is there a way I can regain my senior status after a violation, that was entirely my fault and will not be repeated? Is there a confession booth to confess my sins to the A2 God and perhaps receive a pardon?

You are still a senior, that never changed, you're moderated which is a different thing brotherman.

If you want to discuss it send me a PM.

Admin2

A2

[ExitOnly]

So some guy with 3 posts decides he wants to say shit about one of the most favorably reviewed (and frequently reviewed) providers. But he knows that he can't come right out and say it because his post will be deleted, so he starts off by saying something good, then he throws in a piece of bullshit disguised as a question. What a shithead.TS as in Trans? No shit. Joon's dick must be bigger then his that's why he's talking shit.

[Memahu]

Scroll down the first page 3/4 of the way down. "Sugar Babies / Arrangements" thread. You can toot your horn there. If you include something that's useful for other dudes looking to give it a try, it may be better received than a humble brag post.It's based on a true story. I saw a movie where Ron Jeremy was so good at sex that the porn actress paid him. And then he looked at the camera and shrugged.

[Ck813]

How the fuck you can say GFE when there is no dfk and only open mouth kissing? No BBBJ? Can't even take a fucking dick in deep! Laughs when you start kissing her neck. She is trying to better her service but she ain't no fucking GFE, I guess this is what you call shills. I reall don't think Jamie would ask anyone to do this for her though. She has a very sweet personality and very friendly! Like I said give her time and she may become a top notch provider. I just can't stand when I see BS reviews! If you can't tell the fucking truth don't fucking post!

[Blake123]

So I've read alot about joon. All good stuff, will probably try her out assuming she is not TS. One of my buddies in the hobby told me she's a TS?! Is that true?


So some guy with 3 posts decides he wants to say shit about one of the most favorably reviewed (and frequently reviewed) providers. But he knows that he can't come right out and say it because his post will be deleted, so he starts off by saying something good, then he throws in a piece of bullshit disguised as a question. What a shithead.Macko69--Very good response to MJ6969. No doubt, MJ6969 is a troll trying to start trouble. Those of us who have been with Joon know better.

[Happy Seeker 8]

Macko69--Very good response to MJ6969. No doubt, MJ6969 is a troll trying to start trouble. Those of us who have been with Joon know better.I'll put money down that it has something to do with him getting frustrated over not getting a "first' time session with her yet. My first time appointment with her didn't exactly go well (didn't happen) too, but you didn't see me put up or write something false because of it.

[Ck813]

One would think that after you share about a provider you would get a response out of courtesy and respect but no nothing! This forum was meant to share so other members know should they try or shouldn't they or am I wrong? To all you scum sucking leach balls go waste your money and no ask for info!

[Happy Seeker 8]

One would think that after you share about a provider you would get a response out of courtesy and respect but no nothing! This forum was meant to share so other members know should they try or shouldn't they or am I wrong? To all you scum sucking leach balls go waste your money and no ask for info!On same subject.

Funny (and I asked admin. Also), about PM'S. That it seemed (or was it possible) that if some members had the option (when they enrolled) to not have a PM option? Benefit. I was getting the inkling that some did, because they seemingly? Don't read or respond to my personal PMs.

When you meet someone randomly, find that both of us are members-EXCHANGE USER NAMES ONLY-PM something courteosly after & get no answer, LIKE YOUR SAYING HERE. ? -you kind of wonder did they got the PM or not.

Me personally-2 of mine I went via forums, (that actually belonged via PM) -when I got no response, next thing you know their answering via forum also only!

You CAN CHECK. 2 of mine recently (via forum) I started with HEY HAWAII* and HEY COLORADO *.

[Member #5438]

One would think that after you share about a provider you would get a response out of courtesy and respect but no nothing! This forum was meant to share so other members know should they try or shouldn't they or am I wrong? To all you scum sucking leach balls go waste your money and no ask for info!Couldn't agree with you more. Too many guys on here just want to get tips, and either not share from their end, or they wind up blowing it with MT. After being burned enough, I won't even respond unless it's someone who has posted BOTH a lot of reports and quality reports. Too many users with a lot of reports that only amount to questions being asked, or them agreeing with some other guys post.

I guess some guys too dumb to learn the importance of cooperation.

[SimpleK]

Couldn't agree with you more. Too many guys on here just want to get tips, and either not share from their end, or they wind up blowing it with MT. After being burned enough, I won't even respond unless it's someone who has posted BOTH a lot of reports and quality reports. Too many users with a lot of reports that only amount to questions being asked, or them agreeing with some other guys post.

I guess some guys too dumb to learn the importance of cooperation.I'm going to be honest, I keep a lot of things to myself if I don't see anyone posting about it. Like for example with page and BBFS, I know I'm not the only one but I know a lot of people probably not getting that from her from the lack of write ups about it. So I would never share that openly (now everyone knows so it doesn't matter). But when you get "special" service from that, reporting it will not only maybe make the provider regret doing such things but also 1) they will be super busy and you will have harder time to get an appointment. 2) provider might stop that shit and 3) makes you feel a lot better thinking you really are a "special" customer.

Of course I would share bad reports to help everyone save money. That's the one thing, I don't even know how much money I wasted before not knowing anything. Before it was like a 50/50 of a good or bad experience. Now it's like 90% good and 10%bad.

[Memahu]

Of course I would share bad reports to help everyone save money. That's the one thing, I don't even know how much money I wasted before not knowing anything. Before it was like a 50/50 of a good or bad experience. Now it's like 90% good and 10%bad.I think posters go for the sure thing with providers and AMPs who have good reviews from trusted senior members. I just glanced at the Backpage reviews. I get the feeling there's more negative reviews there because the poster is likely to be taking one for team more.

[CardSource52]

I think posters go for the sure thing with providers and AMPs who have good reviews from trusted senior members. I just glanced at the Backpage reviews. I get the feeling there's more negative reviews there because the poster is likely to be taking one for team more.There are senior members I trust on their reviews. But service and attitude rating I understand because they provide descriptions and what is on the menu. What I experienced is the rating on looks is very inconsistent. I know everyone has their own taste but when I see a rating of 10 and after my visit I could of gave them 6 or 7 at best. Looks should be rated on the face and body. A 10 means a perfect body and face. I have not yet met one that has a perfect face and body. I know everyone has their own standards but I think too much reviews I see with 10 on looks. I am a younger monger so maybe my standards are high. Hopefully I will meet a 10 but still searching. So far the girls I gave 9 in looks were Nicole at Happiness, Dallas at Rejuve, Nani at Dream, and sugar at Kison. If anyone know a 10 PM me. Happy mongering guys and be safe. Peace out!!

[Chik0848]

There are senior members I trust on their reviews. But service and attitude rating I understand because they provide descriptions and what is on the menu. What I experienced is the rating on looks is very inconsistent. I know everyone has their own taste but when I see a rating of 10 and after my visit I could of gave them 6 or 7 at best. Looks should be rated on the face and body. A 10 means a perfect body and face. I have not yet met one that has a perfect face and body. I know everyone has their own standards but I think too much reviews I see with 10 on looks. I am a younger monger so maybe my standards are high. Hopefully I will meet a 10 but still searching. So far the girls I gave 9 in looks were Nicole at Happiness, Dallas at Rejuve, Nani at Dream, and sugar at Kison. If anyone know a 10 PM me. Happy mongering guys and be safe. Peace out!!I think everyone's rating is relative. We all have different tastes and likes and dislikes. I would agree with a 9 for Dallas, but not for Nicole. There are times where a monger will give a provider an 8 for looks, and I go there the next day and she has no makeup on and looks like a 5.

[Goser]

There are senior members I trust on their reviews. But service and attitude rating I understand because they provide descriptions and what is on the menu. What I experienced is the rating on looks is very inconsistent. I know everyone has their own taste but when I see a rating of 10 and after my visit I could of gave them 6 or 7 at best. Looks should be rated on the face and body. A 10 means a perfect body and face. I have not yet met one that has a perfect face and body. I know everyone has their own standards but I think too much reviews I see with 10 on looks. I am a younger monger so maybe my standards are high. Hopefully I will meet a 10 but still searching. So far the girls I gave 9 in looks were Nicole at Happiness, Dallas at Rejuve, Nani at Dream, and sugar at Kison. If anyone know a 10 PM me. Happy mongering guys and be safe. Peace out!!You clearly have excellent taste in women. I have seen all of the girls you mentioned except for Nani, but I have seen her in person so I know what she looks like. Based on your selection, I feel pretty confident that Star would make your cut list of top girls have great looks in body and face.

Here is my comment on each of the above girls.

1) Of the above girls, Dallas would be my clear number 1. She has the body type I really like with a very pretty face and natural boobs. You rate her 9. I gave her a 10.

2) Then, I would rate Nani as number 2. She has a very pretty face and nice body. However, she is enhanced and for me, that is a big negative. I would give her a 9.

3) Then, Sugar at Kison. She has a pretty face, but again has below average implants. I would give her a 9.

4) Then, Nicole. She is pretty good looking. I like her a lot. She is a curvy girl. Nice enhanced boobs. If they have to be enhanced, these work well for me. I give her a 9 as well.

5) Star is better than all of the above for me. She is taller and has firm natural Cee sized breasts. She has a very pretty face. She is a 10.

Some guys don't like Stars face. I guess TEHO.

I would rate Star, Dallas, Pacific Spa Kim, Mayflower Vivian and Lexi as the pretty girls I have seen in Hawaii. Lexi is enhanced, but a good enhanced. If she were natural, she would probably be number 1. This is a combination of body and face.

I don't think everyone would agree with the order of beauty based on what they like most, but I think most would agree that all of these girls are in the top tier of looks or close to it.

[CardSource52]

You clearly have excellent taste in women. I have seen all of the girls you mentioned except for Nani, but I have seen her in person so I know what she looks like. Based on your selection, I feel pretty confident that Star would make your cut list of top girls have great looks in body and face.

Here is my comment on each of the above girls.

1) Of the above girls, Dallas would be my clear number 1. She has the body type I really like with a very pretty face and natural boobs. You rate her 9. I gave her a 10.

2) Then, I would rate Nani as number 2. She has a very pretty face and nice body. However, she is enhanced and for me, that is a big negative. I would give her a 9.

3) Then, Sugar at Kison. She has a pretty face, but again has below average implants. I would give her a 9.

4) Then, Nicole. She is pretty good looking. I like her a lot. She is a curvy girl. Nice enhanced boobs. If they have to be enhanced, these work well for me. I give her a 9 as well.

5) Star is better than all of the above for me. She is taller and has firm natural Cee sized breasts. She has a very pretty face. She is a 10.

Some guys don't like Stars face. I guess TEHO.

I would rate Star, Dallas, Pacific Spa Kim, Mayflower Vivian and Lexi as the pretty girls I have seen in Hawaii. Lexi is enhanced, but a good enhanced. If she were natural, she would probably be number 1. This is a combination of body and face.

I don't think everyone would agree with the order of beauty based on what they like most, but I think most would agree that all of these girls are in the top tier of looks or close to it.Never been with Lexi or Vivian but heard a lot about them. And Star has been on my list for many months but as I posted on Roses Spa that my timing with her never lined up. I'm 0-5 trying to book A appointment with her. Implants don't bother me as long as they are natural looking and feel soft. I will report if I ever get a chance to see Star.

[Blake123]

You clearly have excellent taste in women. I have seen all of the girls you mentioned except for Nani, but I have seen her in person so I know what she looks like. Based on your selection, I feel pretty confident that Star would make your cut list of top girls have great looks in body and face.

Here is my comment on each of the above girls.

1) Of the above girls, Dallas would be my clear number 1. She has the body type I really like with a very pretty face and natural boobs. You rate her 9. I gave her a 10.

2) Then, I would rate Nani as number 2. She has a very pretty face and nice body. However, she is enhanced and for me, that is a big negative. I would give her a 9.

3) Then, Sugar at Kison. She has a pretty face, but again has below average implants. I would give her a 9.

4) Then, Nicole. She is pretty good looking. I like her a lot. She is a curvy girl. Nice enhanced boobs. If they have to be enhanced, these work well for me. I give her a 9 as well.

5) Star is better than all of the above for me. She is taller and has firm natural Cee sized breasts. She has a very pretty face. She is a 10.

Some guys don't like Stars face. I guess TEHO.

I would rate Star, Dallas, Pacific Spa Kim, Mayflower Vivian and Lexi as the pretty girls I have seen in Hawaii. Lexi is enhanced, but a good enhanced. If she were natural, she would probably be number 1. This is a combination of body and face.

I don't think everyone would agree with the order of beauty based on what they like most, but I think most would agree that all of these girls are in the top tier of looks or close to it.Nani's tits (look and feel) are awesome, IMO. They don't feel hard at all like some girls' enhancements. And that ass--oh my! You should try Nani, brother Goser. You'll never go back to Dallas :)

[AlwaysFishing]

Doesn't sound like you got any service at all. Could be that thought you were sketchy. Been a lot of trouble at the building recently (Go Go and Ocean both busted). I've had to wait a bit sometimes which is really annoying, but they don't count that time. Not sure who you saw there. The girls are certainly not 60+ but there was one girl who was pretty old. I asked mama if anyone actually saw her and she said that she had many regular customers (WTF! Anyway maybe I am the only one who goes there. Haven't run into any of you h*ny f*ks there yet and there's plenty other places to go in that building.

I used to go to Empire until they bait and switched me so I've been going Cypress because I always have a good time and they've been getting new (yes, not young) girls. I'm an old fat ugly dude and so I'm not interested in adventure, dealing with some young girls shitty attitude, the "no no no", hurry up and cum, or look of disgust when she pulls the towel off. Key thing here is "always" have a good time. I've never seen anyone drugged out there but mama gets a little sauced sometimes.

Has anyone else gone here and gotten service? I can't be the only one!Beware! This guy's a shill. There's no young girl there.

[Junk69]

Beware! This guy's a shill. There's no young girl there.Not! Read my review and other posts more carefully.

[Happy Seeker 8]

On same subject.

Funny (and I asked admin. Also), about PM'S. That it seemed (or was it possible) that if some members had the option (when they enrolled) to not have a PM option? Benefit. I was getting the inkling that some did, because they seemingly? Don't read or respond to my personal PMs.

When you meet someone randomly, find that both of us are members-EXCHANGE USER NAMES ONLY-PM something courteosly after & get no answer, LIKE YOUR SAYING HERE. ? -you kind of wonder did they got the PM or not.

Me personally-2 of mine I went via forums, (that actually belonged via PM) -when I got no response, next thing you know their answering via forum also only!

You CAN CHECK. 2 of mine recently (via forum) I started with HEY HAWAII* and HEY COLORADO *.It got answered--Some people chose not to receive PM's or are not able too according to what I was told. I'm not sure if "not able to" was their choice, violation? Or something else.

[Ck813]

I'm so tired of you lazy ass fuckers with these oh the girl was good I would repeat reports! How the fuck should I know if I should see that provider or not? When I report I give full details! CBJ, BBBJ, DFK, LFK, etc, why write a fucking report of you can't give the details? It's worthless! Sure, I'm going to see a provider because you said wow I had a great time, just like a GF. Big fucking deal! Come on guys stop being lazy and give full details or better yet no write anything. You only wasting up time and space!

[Happy Seeker 8]

I'm so tired of you lazy ass fuckers with these oh the girl was good I would repeat reports! How the fuck should I know if I should see that provider or not? When I report I give full details! CBJ, BBBJ, DFK, LFK, etc, why write a fucking report of you can't give the details? It's worthless! Sure, I'm going to see a provider because you said wow I had a great time, just like a GF. Big fucking deal! Come on guys stop being lazy and give full details or better yet no write anything. You only wasting up time and space!Agree. How the hell there's "reviews" posted on forums with: providers name ONLY-No reference to (which) ad-just had a "great time'No $$ costs--and say they will repeat?

ADmin should not even post and label "irrelevant" or "incomplete" report.

[Admin2]

Agree. How the hell there's "reviews" posted on forums with: providers name ONLY-No reference to (which) ad-just had a "great time'No $$ costs--and say they will repeat?

ADmin should not even post and label "irrelevant" or "incomplete" report.Sifting through the posts is why you guys don't have to pay to have the forum. We could charge 100 bucks a month and take it down to maybe 10 or 15 guys in Hawaii who would post absolutely correct information but is that what you really want?

There's no way we can start evaluating posts for "usefulness. " Especially when all you really have to do is use the scroll button and go by them.

A2.

[SimpleK]

Not! Read my review and other posts more carefully.Every single one of your post is about cypress. It's so obvious, I have no idea why admin keeps allowing for your bullshit.

And the Admin has no idea why you haven't reported a post and said something so I can look at it. You look at a couple threads in Hawaii, I look at 15,000 threads all over the US. It's impossible for me to pick out patterns of posts from the same user unless I review a particular user. Since there are 400,000 of them unless somebody tells me "Hey man, you might want to look at this guy." I couldn't possibly review them all.

A2

[Happy Seeker 8]

Every single one of your post is about cypress. It's so obvious, I have no idea why admin keeps allowing for your bullshit.

And the Admin has no idea why you haven't reported a post and said something so I can look at it. You look at a couple threads in Hawaii, I look at 15,000 threads all over the US. It's impossible for me to pick out patterns of posts from the same user unless I review a particular user. Since there are 400,000 of them unless somebody tells me "Hey man, you might want to look at this guy." I couldn't possibly review them all.

A2GREAT INFO & CLARIFICATION to my post and this one.

[SlappinBellies]

I'm so tired of you lazy ass fuckers with these oh the girl was good I would repeat reports! How the fuck should I know if I should see that provider or not? When I report I give full details! CBJ, BBBJ, DFK, LFK, etc, why write a fucking report of you can't give the details? It's worthless! Sure, I'm going to see a provider because you said wow I had a great time, just like a GF. Big fucking deal! Come on guys stop being lazy and give full details or better yet no write anything. You only wasting up time and space!I've been mongering a long phucking time here and all over the world and quite frankly I'm tired of writing detailed reports. Does absolutely nothing for me to write a detailed report so all you'll get from me is "yah she's good I would repeat". If that's not good enough for you move the phuck on. I don't give a rats ass if that's acceptable to you. I like adventure and the unknown of getting intimate with a provider I just met and creating chemistry within 15 minutes. If you need somebody to guide you through a session in the hopes you receive the same service your out of your frickin mind.

If you see something you like try it. Stop whining and demanding mongers to provide information for you. Pretty pathetic.