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So I just wanted to get some other opinions from mongers on how long they are willing to give a provider to show up for outcall or how long you will wait on incall. I agree that context is everything. For out, as long as they communicate well with me, and I have other tasks to keep me occupied, I'll wait indefinitely. But if they are unclear, flaky, and don't answer straight questions with good answers, forget about it. I may try to turn things around if they play games, like, "It sounds like you're having a rough day, hon. I wouldn't want you to get in a rush and drive all stressed out to get to me. Why don't we try another time when you have a bit less going on?" without defining when and where that time will be.
For in, they're good if they communicate well and get to me before I get in the car or leave to get there. Once I have arrived, they have 10-20 minutes to respond max, depending on the situation. I will be upfront with them about this if it sounds like it may be a potential problem.
If at anytime they are rude, flaky, manipulative, or non-responsive within a reasonable amount of time, forget about it. I owe them nothing. I am an extremely patient person, and when I start to feel impatient, that's usually a sign that most people would have cancelled a long time ago. I don't dwell on it and move on, I won't allow it to get to the point where it ruins my day (and especially, my sleep). And I report it here, concisely.
Each of us seems to have reached a similar strategy by a slightly different route. I now have a 10 minutes rule. I generally tell them that upfront. My time is very valuable and in short supply. A 15 minute delay on their end can jeopardize the entire enterprise. If they start with the excuses. Phone, car, roommate bullshit. I generally pull the plug. Sometimes I make exceptions but I try to adhere to the regime. I also make it clear, if you're late, no tip. That provides an incentive. My regulars have learned that I value promptness. I see a few providers who have a reputation for making guys wait for over an hour; they never do it with me because I drive away / cancel the appointment. I've been cursed out a number of times, but to my way of thinking, the guy is paying for good service and shouldn't have to tolerate such disrespect for his time. If you don't ever let it start, then it tends to stay on a good track. Again I have to be flexible with these girls. Nonetheless, my experience is that their poor time management skills often bleed over into performance in bed. Not always; there are some exceptions. But over the years I've detected a correlation between a good start to the party and a stellar ending. I'd rather miss out on the entire experience than begin the situation with a bumpy road.
BuckeyeFanatic
03-21-17, 00:51
Anyone had any confrontations with a neighbor as you were leaving a provider's incall? I just recently had a run in with one. I was leaving the incall, and I noticed someone was following me from their house (not the provider's, but the neighbor's), back to my car. They were far enough back that I deemed they weren't a threat, and I was able to safely get into my car. As I was leaving, they were standing in the middle of the street and I had to drive around them to get by. I drove by, and the dude picks up something that looked like an empty snapple jar or an empty 40, and heaves it at my car as I'm driving away. The thing shattered against my back windshield, luckily it didn't break anything (other than the jar, so their was glass everywhere). I kept driving, as I didn't want to escalate the situation, but I wondered if anyone had any similar stories?
Anyone had any confrontations with a neighbor as you were leaving a provider's incall? I just recently had a run in with one. I was leaving the incall, and I noticed someone was following me from their house (not the provider's, but the neighbor's), back to my car. They were far enough back that I deemed they weren't a threat, and I was able to safely get into my car. As I was leaving, they were standing in the middle of the street and I had to drive around them to get by. I drove by, and the dude picks up something that looked like an empty snapple jar or an empty 40, and heaves it at my car as I'm driving away. The thing shattered against my back windshield, luckily it didn't break anything (other than the jar, so their was glass everywhere). I kept driving, as I didn't want to escalate the situation, but I wondered if anyone had any similar stories?I know man. Yep. Happened to me. I was at the location about 9:30 pm ish.
My play time is usually during office hours so I'm limited. When she is late an hour I've lost an hour pay so my date just cost me double. I respect a girls time and will bust my ass to be on time I fully expect treated the same. IF I'm late I accept the fact I've fucked up her schedule and will take a short date at my expense.
I seldom have a problem with regulars once they know I'm serious about time.
However there are some that don't care about your time, I never book them again.
Anyone had any confrontations with a neighbor as you were leaving a provider's incall? I just recently had a run in with one. I was leaving the incall, and I noticed someone was following me from their house (not the provider's, but the neighbor's), back to my car. They were far enough back that I deemed they weren't a threat, and I was able to safely get into my car. As I was leaving, they were standing in the middle of the street and I had to drive around them to get by. I drove by, and the dude picks up something that looked like an empty snapple jar or an empty 40, and heaves it at my car as I'm driving away. The thing shattered against my back windshield, luckily it didn't break anything (other than the jar, so their was glass everywhere). I kept driving, as I didn't want to escalate the situation, but I wondered if anyone had any similar stories?Maybe you could tell us which provider? Geesh.
BuckeyeFanatic
03-21-17, 16:15
Maybe you could tell us which provider? Geesh.Holly. It was at her new location. Richie just posted a review on the backpage section of run ins with her neighbors as well.
Midwest Dude
03-21-17, 16:19
My play time is usually during office hours so I'm limited. When she is late an hour I've lost an hour pay so my date just cost me double. I respect a girls time and will bust my ass to be on time I fully expect treated the same. IF I'm late I accept the fact I've fucked up her schedule and will take a short date at my expense.
I seldom have a problem with regulars once they know I'm serious about time.
However there are some that don't care about your time, I never book them again.After being stood up on a couple of occasions (and after waiting for 25-30 minutes), I've decided that I'm only giving them 10 minutes and then I leave.
You must be talking about Katie. Lololol.Don't feel bad. I may have picked up where you left off. The last time I saw her I told her I couldn't indefinitely forestall her homelessness and she stole money from me in an unguarded moment. I later heard she did the same to someone I know and trust.
She always seemed like a decent person and I got friendly with her. Apparently desperation has driven her in a bad direction. Just consider yourself warned if she does reach out. She mentioned several names of regulars that I recognized from this site. That lack of discretion may be worth noting as well.
JonHangcok
03-25-17, 18:20
Don't feel bad. I may have picked up where you left off. The last time I saw her I told her I couldn't indefinitely forestall her homelessness and she stole money from me in an unguarded moment. I later heard she did the same to someone I know and trust.
She always seemed like a decent person and I got friendly with her. Apparently desperation has driven her in a bad direction. Just consider yourself warned if she does reach out. She mentioned several names of regulars that I recognized from this site. That lack of discretion may be worth noting as well.Hell the second time I met up with her she told me about a couple mongers. One of who no longer posts on this site with little to no coercion. I knew then and there to not tell her anything personal about myself.
There was one that I got really friendly with. I'd loan her money here and there, which she re-payed later with discounted rates so no big deal. Then every once in a while she'd txt me that she was going to be homeless if she didn't get her money up fast enough. She would also tell me about the side jobs she was doing and all the money drama that came with that. Whether or not she actually had those jobs I'll never know. The final straw and the reason why I stopped seeing her because she started constantly hitting me up talking about how she was going to loose her place of residence. So the first few times I would swing by, give her money, get a quickie and leave. It started to get more frequent and I couldn't take it anymore so I stopped answering her txts.
I felt bad doing that but I'm not super rich, and I have to make sure all my bills are taken care of. We can't both end up homeless.Can you share a link as to who you are speaking about?
Redemption45
03-26-17, 22:47
Hell the second time I met up with her she told me about a couple mongers. One of who no longer posts on this site with little to no coercion. I knew then and there to not tell her anything personal about myself.What happened to the good old days when she lived with her brother? Lolololol.
JonHangcok
03-27-17, 14:48
What happened to the good old days when she lived with her brother? Lolololol.I always wondered whose house that was. The first time I came to see her, when she led me into the house there was an older person just chilling on the couch. I always thought that it was kind of odd especially since I'm pretty sure they knew what was about to happen upstairs.
What happened to the good old days when she lived with her brother? Lolololol.Katie told me her brother kicked her out because "her ex" stole from him. That's hard to pin down because in the few months I knew her she burned through about 12 exes. The next to the last time I talked to her she had concurrently a main boyfriend, a side piece, a guy she slept with to have a room and a girlfriend. And, of course, she claimed to have a stable of exactly 5 regulars from this site.
The last time I saw her, just a couple of weeks later, they were all exes. LOL.
Hell the second time I met up with her she told me about a couple mongers. One of who no longer posts on this site with little to no coercion. I knew then and there to not tell her anything personal about myself.I seen her one time and one time only. During that one visit she mentioned you, redemption and youngjohnny or liljohnny something like that, he used to post a good bit here. All from this site and I hadn't spent my first 15 minutes with her. I saw her once and decided not to go back because of the blabbermouth she is LOL.
Redemption45
03-28-17, 19:03
Katie told me her brother kicked her out because "her ex" stole from him. That's hard to pin down because in the few months I knew her she burned through about 12 exes. The next to the last time I talked to her she had concurrently a main boyfriend, a side piece, a guy she slept with to have a room and a girlfriend. And, of course, she claimed to have a stable of exactly 5 regulars from this site.
The last time I saw her, just a couple of weeks later, they were all exes. LOL.Yeah ever since getting kicked out that house, drama has followed her.
Redemption45
03-28-17, 19:04
I seen her one time and one time only. During that one visit she mentioned you, redemption and youngjohnny or liljohnny something like that, he used to post a good bit here. All from this site and I hadn't spent my first 15 minutes with her. I saw her once and decided not to go back because of the blabbermouth she is LOL.She must of forgot to tell you I was getting it for free.
She must of forgot to tell you I was getting it for free.I do remember her saying you were a good friend. Said the same about youngjohnny. Mr. Hangcok there. Not so much LOL.
Redemption45
03-29-17, 18:50
I do remember her saying you were a good friend. Said the same about youngjohnny. Mr. Hangcok there. Not so much LOL.Personally I didn't care so much about her drama, it was all about what I can get out of it. Its like that little stray cat. You let it in feed it and pet it and send it back on its way until you want to feed it again. I always kept my distance because she was burning too many bridges and too many characters she was hanging with trying to get a hustle on. Lololol it's like playing Russian roulette you keep playing with her you will get shot. Lolol.
GhostRider50
04-11-17, 14:25
Maybe you could tell us which provider? Geesh.Last summer went down a neighborhood alley with and parked where the SW said she lived. It was a dead end (2nd stupid mistake) was in the back of my suv pounding away and a dude comes up to the car yelling get the fk out of here, etc. My buddy was up front (3rd mistake) so told him I was leaving, didn't want any trouble. Had to back out about 50 yards. His girlfriend or wife was getting it all on her iphone. I'm a veteran and let my guard down big time. Take the time to find your own safe spots.
An observation. B's newest photo was taken in the same place as Ally's.
Compare:
https://yolo.com.columbus.escortbabylon.com/post/21062716/ally
https://yolo.com.columbus.hoxnif.com/post/21134377/
So what do you make of the photos being in the same place? The same handler?
BTW, I saw Ally this week and she was great. Location left a lot to be desired though.
GentleGiant43
04-14-17, 19:24
An observation. B's newest photo was taken in the same place as Ally's.
Compare:
https://yolo.com.columbus.escortbabylon.com/post/21062716/ally
https://yolo.com.columbus.hoxnif.com/post/21134377/
So what do you make of the photos being in the same place? The same handler?
BTW, I saw Ally this week and she was great. Location left a lot to be desired though.Or possibly the same home of a reg customer, just helping them get some decent pics for their ads.
If you noticed they do have some similarities in looks.
An observation. B's newest photo was taken in the same place as Ally's.
Compare:
https://yolo.com.columbus.escortbabylon.com/post/21062716/ally
https://yolo.com.columbus.hoxnif.com/post/21134377/
So what do you make of the photos being in the same place? The same handler?
BTW, I saw Ally this week and she was great. Location left a lot to be desired though.Seriously. Nobody takes photos of the girls? There are vagina shots all over this website.
Those photos were taken by me. I like pretty girls in lingerie. Therefore I give out a lot of lingerie. I kill Victoria's Secret during their Semi-Annual Clearance. If you see a provider wearing exceptionally nice underwear, she probably was recently at my place. Moreover, these girls are millennials. They love pictures of themselves. I have a nice camera. Decent lighting, so we have some fun. I Photoshop their little flaws and send them the photos. They love it. I like the little collection of lingerie photos I have. They like my work. And some have chosen to use the photos in their ads. I don't encourage or discourage that. We simply have a little fun. I challenge myself to get natural smiles as best I can. I'm getting better at it and I take some pride at producing better and better photos. Many other providers have used my photos and I've PM'd quite a few. This is the first time someone has made the connection.
I do need to pull the art from the walls. Makes my home a little too identifiable.
As a note. Handlers take poor pictures. If you see nasty, exploitative pictures that are poorly done. It's a handler. Neither of these girls have handlers that I'm aware. Handlers generally don't keep their girls in places with leather sofas and original artwork. A good friend did that painting.
Thanks for calling me out Cherny.
Traveler Two
04-15-17, 11:47
Seriously. Nobody takes photos of the girls? There are vagina shots all over this website.
Those photos were taken by me. I like pretty girls in lingerie. Therefore I give out a lot of lingerie. I kill Victoria's Secret during their Semi-Annual Clearance. If you see a provider wearing exceptionally nice underwear, she probably was recently at my place. Moreover, these girls are millennials. They love pictures of themselves. I have a nice camera. Decent lighting, so we have some fun. I Photoshop their little flaws and send them the photos. They love it. I like the little collection of lingerie photos I have. They like my work. And some have chosen to use the photos in their ads. I don't encourage or discourage that. We simply have a little fun. I challenge myself to get natural smiles as best I can. I'm getting better at it and I take some pride at producing better and better photos. Many other providers have used my photos and I've PM'd quite a few. This is the first time someone has made the connection.
I do need to pull the art from the walls. Makes my home a little too identifiable.
As a note. Handlers take poor pictures. If you see nasty, exploitative pictures that are poorly done. It's a handler. Neither of these girls have handlers that I'm aware. Handlers generally don't keep their girls in places with leather sofas and original artwork. A good friend did that painting.
Thanks for calling me out Cherny.I've had a number of my photos end up on backpage too. But I order from amazon. Have a cabinet of lingerie I like ready to go.
I've had a number of my photos end up on backpage too. But I order from amazon. Have a cabinet of lingerie I like ready to go.The girls seem to love getting panties and socks. Probably has to do with never doing laundry and always stealing each other's stuff.
Most of you do a good job of communication and interacting with mongers. However there are a chosen few who are still trying to figure it out.
I sent an email today to two ladies on this board, one with her email on her USASG profile one with a REPLY button on it. Have yet to hear from either. If you put the email on your site or ask us to text or hit the communications button TRY READING your contacts. No offense meant but if you take the time to help us with email or a reply button and we take the time to respond it could be a win win for us both. Have a good rest of the week ladies and thanks for reading.
http://columbus.backpage.com/WomenSeekMen/im-back-guys-even-hotter-than-before-614-698-6476/35727489
That would be morbidly obese.
http://columbus.backpage.com/WomenSeekMen/do-you-need-a-kiss-or-to-be-touched-i-do-my-soft-hands-my-worm-lips-will-have-you-craving-more/35272522
I didn't know worms had lips.
GhostRider50
05-02-17, 12:29
http://columbus.backpage.com/WomenSeekMen/do-you-need-a-kiss-or-to-be-touched-i-do-my-soft-hands-my-worm-lips-will-have-you-craving-more/35272522
I didn't know worms had lips.Where the uncle comes out and chases dudes away. I'm surprised no one has taken him out yet.
GhostRider50
05-02-17, 12:31
Most of you do a good job of communication and interacting with mongers. However there are a chosen few who are still trying to figure it out.
I sent an email today to two ladies on this board, one with her email on her USASG profile one with a REPLY button on it. Have yet to hear from either. If you put the email on your site or ask us to text or hit the communications button TRY READING your contacts. No offense meant but if you take the time to help us with email or a reply button and we take the time to respond it could be a win win for us both. Have a good rest of the week ladies and thanks for reading.Do I get a response from them. There are a couple in Ft Myers that are active, but I tried Knoxville, Chattanooga area for my trip home recently and no dice.
http://shesahomewrecker.com/states/ohio
http://shesahomewrecker.com/states/ohioThis site is very interesting. Some of these girls are so ugly that it would be embarrassing for people to know you screwed them. However, there are some cute ones too. I only recognized one girl mentioned from Columbus (Taylor) who is a stripper at a popular club on the NW side that starts with a K. She shows up as a FB friend of a lot of SA and BP girls. Both of the girls from Marysville, Tiffany & Kay have a FB friend who has been on BP recently and got very good reviews. I can't remember her BP name, but her real first name is Eden. There is a very attractive girl on here named Kate, last name starts with an L, who is also FB friends with multiple BP & SA girls. I think she had a profile on SA once. Too bad you can't sort it by city.
This site is very interesting. Some of these girls are so ugly that it would be embarrassing for people to know you screwed them. However, there are some cute ones too. I only recognized one girl mentioned from Columbus (Taylor) who is a stripper at a popular club on the NW side that starts with a K. She shows up as a FB friend of a lot of SA and BP girls. Both of the girls from Marysville, Tiffany & Kay have a FB friend who has been on BP recently and got very good reviews. I can't remember her BP name, but her real first name is Eden. There is a very attractive girl on here named Kate, last name starts with an L, who is also FB friends with multiple BP & SA girls. I think she had a profile on SA once. Too bad you can't sort it by city.I checked the girls you mentioned. Here is Taylor: http://shesahomewrecker.com/taylor-shockey-columbus-ohio/#page-2.
Is this the Kate you mentioned?: http://shesahomewrecker.com/katie-lindsey-columbus-ohio/.
I checked the girls you mentioned. Here is Taylor: http://shesahomewrecker.com/taylor-shockey-columbus-ohio/#page-2.
Is this the Kate you mentioned?: http://shesahomewrecker.com/katie-lindsey-columbus-ohio/.
Yes. I just didn't want to give their real names since a little research would have revealed what anyone needed to know. Just look up their FB and you will see some familiar faces among their friends from the BP & SA crowd.
LecherousMonk
05-10-17, 06:37
Not sure this is the right sub-forum for this, but here goes:
What is the price of sex? If you were to pay for a sexual experience or service of some kind--hypothetically, of course, as it's illegal--what factors would contribute to your spending? Hotness of the girl (s)? Nature of the act? Do you have any preconceived price points build into your mental calculus, or do you just sorta wing it? What are the major sectors of the sex economy (SW, strip clubs, BP, CL, etc. , etc.), and what are the tiers? Trying to start an open-ended convo, and I hope someone will chime in with something, or at least tell me why it's a stupid question.
Quality standpoint, street walker Backpage Craigslist escort utr sugar baby in that order. My standpoint it can be all over the place, so that was a difficult one to answer.
Not sure this is the right sub-forum for this, but here goes:
What is the price of sex? If you were to pay for a sexual experience or service of some kind--hypothetically, of course, as it's illegal--what factors would contribute to your spending? Hotness of the girl (s)? Nature of the act? Do you have any preconceived price points build into your mental calculus, or do you just sorta wing it? What are the major sectors of the sex economy (SW, strip clubs, BP, CL, etc. , etc.), and what are the tiers? Trying to start an open-ended convo, and I hope someone will chime in with something, or at least tell me why it's a stupid question.
Not sure this is the right sub-forum for this, but here goes:
What is the price of sex? If you were to pay for a sexual experience or service of some kind--hypothetically, of course, as it's illegal--what factors would contribute to your spending? Hotness of the girl (s)? Nature of the act? Do you have any preconceived price points build into your mental calculus, or do you just sorta wing it? What are the major sectors of the sex economy (SW, strip clubs, BP, CL, etc. , etc.), and what are the tiers? Trying to start an open-ended convo, and I hope someone will chime in with something, or at least tell me why it's a stupid question.Hotness and the experience. If I can say to myself - "I can't believe I am fucking this babe" - I feel like it has been money well spent. Not sure if I answered the question you are asking, but I try to use this as a guiding principle. Of course sometimes a "babe" is not available, and so I settle. In those situations I find I often am driving home asking myself why the fuck did I do that? Am I the only one who has experienced buyers remorse?
LittleToNoThin
05-11-17, 09:39
Hotness and the experience. If I can say to myself - "I can't believe I am fucking this babe" - I feel like it has been money well spent. Not sure if I answered the question you are asking, but I try to use this as a guiding principle. Of course sometimes a "babe" is not available, and so I settle. In those situations I find I often am driving home asking myself why the fuck did I do that? Am I the only one who has experienced buyers remorse?Sadly you are not.
ColumbusCasual
05-11-17, 09:45
Sadly you are not.Happens to me as well, generally the more rushed or businesslike it is the less likely I am to return. I've also been with someone super hot who manages to kill things with poor attitude.
Homebrewerguy
05-11-17, 14:08
Not sure this is the right sub-forum for this, but here goes:
What is the price of sex? If you were to pay for a sexual experience or service of some kind--hypothetically, of course, as it's illegal--what factors would contribute to your spending? Hotness of the girl (s)? Nature of the act? Do you have any preconceived price points build into your mental calculus, or do you just sorta wing it? What are the major sectors of the sex economy (SW, strip clubs, BP, CL, etc. , etc.), and what are the tiers? Trying to start an open-ended convo, and I hope someone will chime in with something, or at least tell me why it's a stupid question.Starting with a basic assumption that she is at least decent looking with a decent bod, what I value is a level of connection, after all, you are being intimate. I'm not saying it needs to be GFE because you will certainly pay up for that. However nice conversation, eye contact, and some sense that she is happy you are there, are strong factors for me. And I also value knowing what I'm getting for the stated contribution. I can't stand unexpected upselling and significantly shorting me on time. I like repeating with providers and if the session goes as I just described, I will likely repeat.
Midgetbowler
05-27-17, 20:57
I need some help guys. I haven't seen my all time fav UTR in a while. As I try to schedule an incall with her, she says she moved and doesn't work out of her new place. I haven't done outcall for fear of being robbed. Part of me feel that she may be starting to slip a little and are setting people up. What do you think?
I need some help guys. I haven't seen my all time fav UTR in a while. As I try to schedule an incall with her, she says she moved and doesn't work out of her new place. I haven't done outcall for fear of being robbed. Part of me feel that she may be starting to slip a little and are setting people up. What do you think?Slipping or not, I have always played on the safer side by renting a cheap motel. The extra $50. For the room is cheap insurance on your belongings and the unexpected visit to your home at 3 am by her pimp or her baby daddy lookin to gets him some. Too risky for me.
Good luck.
I need some help guys. I haven't seen my all time fav UTR in a while. As I try to schedule an incall with her, she says she moved and doesn't work out of her new place. I haven't done outcall for fear of being robbed. Part of me feel that she may be starting to slip a little and are setting people up. What do you think?I have been doing outcall with girls for 4 years and I have only had one or two issues and that was me being new to the game or stupid. It isn't for everyone, but I have a nice security system that is very noticeable. One keypad is in my master bedroom so every girl that comes over can see it and many get to watch me set it before we get down to business. The same rules apply, have the exact amount on you, make sure nothing of value is around, especially in the bathroom, never pay any amount upfront, if she insists, set the money out in plain site but insist it stays there. The main thing is that this is your home and if things go south, the cops have to come to your house, so just remember that and the money is a small price to pay for keeping things quiet.
Not sure this is the right sub-forum for this, but here goes:
What is the price of sex? If you were to pay for a sexual experience or service of some kind--hypothetically, of course, as it's illegal--what factors would contribute to your spending? Hotness of the girl (s)? Nature of the act? Do you have any preconceived price points build into your mental calculus, or do you just sorta wing it? What are the major sectors of the sex economy (SW, strip clubs, BP, CL, etc. , etc.), and what are the tiers? Trying to start an open-ended convo, and I hope someone will chime in with something, or at least tell me why it's a stupid question.That's a good question, and one I've been considering a lot lately. I've mostly done my hobbying outside of this country, I'm single and run my own business, but I still fear the potential legal repercussions of partaking in the hobby in this country so I tend to be a little cautious. I'm originally from the east coast, and while there I'd occasionally hit the AMPs or BP girls. But outside of this country, my experience is more frequent and varied. I've paid nearly a grand for a supermodel-quality Russian escort in London, and I've paid $12 for a girl in a sleazy local brothel in Peru. I'm a big fan of the German FKK clubs, until recently they were my favorite venue for the hobby. In those venues, for me it's mostly about appearance and how good I think she'll perform in the sack.
When I moved here, I was disappointed by the quality on BP. So many of the girls are drugged-up zombies and while some of them are somewhat attractive, the overall quality of the experience is lacking for me. I discovered SA almost a year ago, and it's become my favorite venue by far.
Looks definitely matter to me, and I'm very picky. I like tall, thin girls. I haven't seen a BP girl I'd sleep with even for free in quite a while. On SA, there are usually only a handful of active girls I'm interested in at any given time. Most of them I wouldn't consider seeing. But intelligence and the girl's situation matters too. I prefer girls who aren't desperate and who don't NEED to be SBs. I like the ones who are just looking for some extra cash to spoil themselves or give themselves a leg up in life. I've broken this rule a few times, but my general rule is that I only see legitimate college students. Most of the girls I've seen are intelligent, funny, drug-free and fun to hang out with, even aside from the physical part of the arrangement. They've all been 18-24.
I've hooked up with around 20 girls from SA so far. Some were one-time meets and some were ongoing for various amounts of time. Most of the girls I've met on SA got 200 per meet. I've never paid more than 300 and two of the best girls I've met didn't request any allowance, although I'd sometimes take them out to nice dinners, etc. Most of them have been truly GFE, we usually go on a date then have a few hours of fun. I've hooked up with a lot of them on the first date, but I almost prefer not to. I love doing a free meet and greet, then going on second date which leads back to my place for a few hours. The anticipation makes it even more fun.
I just had to cut a girl loose who I really liked. She's pretty, has an amazing body that is nearly perfect for my tastes and we connected very well in the bedroom, she was a true GFE. But her life was a mess and the drama was interfering with our arrangement.
I just met another girl who is a real pleasure. She's a responsible college student who just wants some extra cash. Her expectations were very low, I probably could have paid less but I give her 200/ meet. She always texts me back immediately, she has her life together and she's intelligent, creative and fun. And in the bedroom it feels very natural, not at all like a financial arrangement. Honestly to me she's worth a lot more, but she was very happy with the arrangement, so I'm hoping it lasts.
So to get to the question, how much I'll pay depends on a variety of factors. Appearance matters, obviously. But so does intelligence, personality and the general connection I have with a girl. I almost always do a meet and greet first, so we go out to dinner just like a normal date. Obviously, how we connect in the bedroom is important too, but I don't usually find that out until after we negotiate a price. But by getting to know them, I certainly get a feeling of how they'll be in the bedroom. And most of the girls I've met on SA have been very eager to please. I know they're in it for the money, but at the same time when you get to know them a bit before hooking up, it feels very much like a civilian hookup. There are some pros and semi-pros on SA, but many of the students haven't done this before. They are sometimes apprehensive at first, but they also really get into the sex in ways you can't fake.
Age matters too, there's something great about a fresh, 18-24 year old college student.
The specific acts involved don't play a huge factor when it comes to SA. Sometimes if a girl seems particularly kinky I'd factor that into the equation. But in general, the SA girls I've met are usually up for pretty much anything.
I don't have a checklist or anything, it's the combination of the above factors that determines how much I'll pay. It's mostly instinct at this point.
The Germans have it down to a science though. In the FKK clubs, sex is 50 euros per half hour which includes sex, dfk and BBBJ. CIM is 50 extra, anal is 100 extra. And it's all legal. Some of the girls are really beautiful, and they all walk around naked. It's something to experience. But lately I've wondered if it's all a bit too efficient. There's something to be said for the real personal connections you can find on SA. That's worth a bit more in my opinion.
If you asked me to recall my favorite experiences in the hobby outside of SA, the best would probably be the most expensive, that Russian escort in London was really special. Other than that, I guess I'd say a threesome in the German FKK club with two 20-year-old Romanian girls with thin, model-type bodies and beautiful faces. That one set me back around $250. A threesome in a Sao Paulo club was a lot of fun and cost around $300, and then there was the girl I met in a Manila nightclub who was free other than the cost of some drinks.
But SA has become my favorite venue, and spending more doesn't necessarily mean you'll get a better girl or a better experience. If anything my experience has been the reverse. I guess the ones who don't ask for as much either like you more or they're less focused on the money in general, so that leads to a better time.
That's a good question, and one I've been considering a lot lately. I've mostly done my hobbying outside of this country, I'm single and run my own business, but I still fear the potential legal repercussions of partaking in the hobby in this country so I tend to be a little cautious. I'm originally from the east coast, and while there I'd occasionally hit the AMPs or BP girls. But outside of this country, my experience is more frequent and varied. I've paid nearly a grand for a supermodel-quality Russian escort in London, and I've paid $12 for a girl in a sleazy local brothel in Peru. I'm a big fan of the German FKK clubs, until recently they were my favorite venue for the hobby. In those venues, for me it's mostly about appearance and how good I think she'll perform in the sack.
When I moved here, I was disappointed by the quality on BP. So many of the girls are drugged-up zombies and while some of them are somewhat attractive, the overall quality of the experience is lacking for me. I discovered SA almost a year ago, and it's become my favorite venue by far.Thank you so much for this post, LikeMFlat. Your sentiments echo almost exactly my own situation and feelings, except I haven't traveled much yet outside the country. I've been very curious about the FKK clubs and thought of doing that myself. My high end experiences have mostly definitely been worth it (with just a couple exceptions). I look at BP every day and try to give it the benefit of the doubt, but it just scares me anymore. I have tried SA twice but with no success. I want to ask you for your handbook on that place. I just could not sort out the wheat from the chaff there and couldn't find a single one I was attracted to that I didn't think was a BP-like girl or a scammer. If you feel like handing out some tips, my PM box is open and appreciative.
John HandCock
05-28-17, 06:18
Thank you so much for this post, LikeMFlat. Your sentiments echo almost exactly my own situation and feelings, except I haven't traveled much yet outside the country. I've been very curious about the FKK clubs and thought of doing that myself. My high end experiences have mostly definitely been worth it (with just a couple exceptions). I look at BP every day and try to give it the benefit of the doubt, but it just scares me anymore. I have tried SA twice but with no success. I want to ask you for your handbook on that place. I just could not sort out the wheat from the chaff there and couldn't find a single one I was attracted to that I didn't think was a BP-like girl or a scammer. If you feel like handing out some tips, my PM box is open and appreciative.Not sure how long you have been mongering but you should be able to tell a working girl from a civy girl. If you can't then there seems to be a malfunction somewhere. If mongering is all you have ever done then your going to have problems connecting with a regular girl. One of the biggest complaints of a regular girl on sa is guys don't know how to talk to them, treating them like a hooker. So opening lines like "How much" or yummy doesn't get you far with a regular girl. As far as advice go to the richmond sb thread and read. You will find various methods that seem to work for different people looking for different types of girls. With all the tutoring in the world if you don't have a good personality, game, gift of gab then all you will ever connect with is p4 p girls. Good luck with your research bu7 t remember all the tutoring in the world sooner or later your going to be one on one with the girl and its on you to complete the mission.
Not sure how long you have been mongering but you should be able to tell a working girl from a civy girl. If you can't then there seems to be a malfunction somewhere. If mongering is all you have ever done then your going to have problems connecting with a regular girl. One of the biggest complaints of a regular girl on sa is guys don't know how to talk to them, treating them like a hooker. So opening lines like "How much" or yummy doesn't get you far with a regular girl. As far as advice go to the richmond sb thread and read. You will find various methods that seem to work for different people looking for different types of girls. With all the tutoring in the world if you don't have a good personality, game, gift of gab then all you will ever connect with is p4 p girls. Good luck with your research bu7 t remember all the tutoring in the world sooner or later your going to be one on one with the girl and its on you to complete the mission.Thanks for the feedback, but no, talking to them is not the problem. The problem is finding the GP without GPS, ha ha. Is anyone on SA truly a civy? It's not so black and white to me, but you made your point -- there are ones who prefer to be treated like a true civy. I think my problem is probably the same one I have in civy dating, I'm too picky. The straightforwardness is a plus for me, but not why I'm doing it -- I'm looking for exceptional, unique experiences that I wouldn't otherwise have.
JustTheTip
06-01-17, 10:41
I will be in Cbus next month on business and wondering if I might be able to get some suggestions. I will have a hotel room so outcall is fine, but also able to do incall. Looking for a sp that can give a great slow, teasing BBBJ. No bbw's but doesn't have to be a spinner. Age is not a factor but not looking for any butterfaces.
Any help is appreciated. You can reply here or send me a pm.
I know this is a touchy subject. I'm actually considering getting out of the hobby again; because, I'm watching my 4th semi regular to regular go down into the rabbit hole, probably never to return in 2 years.
I know most, as in the VAST majority have serious RX, mental and emotional issues, but it's really hard to watch a girl become a complete slave to her monkey and know there is nothing I can do to help. I know I really should avoid any kind of emotional attachment, but when we actually get along and even start to hang out before and or after sessions, when they aren't in the grip of needing to get well or so well they nod off. It's just tough to watch.
I think it's def time for me to take a break.
How do you guys handle it?
Midwest Dude
06-11-17, 01:06
I know this is a touchy subject. I'm actually considering getting out of the hobby again; because, I'm watching my 4th semi regular to regular go down into the rabbit hole, probably never to return in 2 years.
I know most, as in the VAST majority have serious RX, mental and emotional issues, but it's really hard to watch a girl become a complete slave to her monkey and know there is nothing I can do to help. I know I really should avoid any kind of emotional attachment, but when we actually get along and even start to hang out before and or after sessions, when they aren't in the grip of needing to get well or so well they nod off. It's just tough to watch.
I think it's def time for me to take a break.
How do you guys handle it?I think you got to understand the relationship between you and these broads. Treat them kindly, be a sounding board sometimes, and leave it at that. And be able to accept that your satisfaction may be giving them the ability to use. Just remember: you didn't stick the needle in their arm or give them the pipe. They own that and sometimes it's too late.
I know this is a touchy subject. I'm actually considering getting out of the hobby again; because, I'm watching my 4th semi regular to regular go down into the rabbit hole, probably never to return in 2 years.
I know most, as in the VAST majority have serious RX, mental and emotional issues, but it's really hard to watch a girl become a complete slave to her monkey and know there is nothing I can do to help. I know I really should avoid any kind of emotional attachment, but when we actually get along and even start to hang out before and or after sessions, when they aren't in the grip of needing to get well or so well they nod off. It's just tough to watch.
I think it's def time for me to take a break.
How do you guys handle it?I've had a couple of those. Long story short there's nothing you can do to help. She has to want to do it first and foremost, then and only then can you lend a supportive hand. I watched one of the two I was with choose to dry out (or whatever the term is used) at my house over the Thanksgiving holiday. She chose me to do that, so I guess she felt most comfortable with me. I don't know, but it was hard to watch her go through that. I didn't have an emotional connection with her, so it was hard in that respect, but still, watching that was not fun. The generation in their 20's is going through an epidemic with many dying. I just recently let go of one who I had high hopes for as a baby, but I saw the signs and exited early.
I know this is a touchy subject. I'm actually considering getting out of the hobby again; because, I'm watching my 4th semi regular to regular go down into the rabbit hole, probably never to return in 2 years.
I know most, as in the VAST majority have serious RX, mental and emotional issues, but it's really hard to watch a girl become a complete slave to her monkey and know there is nothing I can do to help. I know I really should avoid any kind of emotional attachment, but when we actually get along and even start to hang out before and or after sessions, when they aren't in the grip of needing to get well or so well they nod off. It's just tough to watch.
I think it's def time for me to take a break.
How do you guys handle it?http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=7293598
This article has helped me to deal with this complicated matter. There's a tendency for us, especially as men, to seek answers or solutions. The key for me is acceptance. Don't try to fix her, even within your mind. Just let her be herself. I often tell them I know they have a monkey on their back but I don't judge. They have so many people (friends, family) telling them they are morally bad or too weak. Not helpful. Listen when she needs to talk, comfort her if she's in pain, don't let her turn her problems and urgencies into yours. At least, that's my approach.
I know this is a touchy subject. I'm actually considering getting out of the hobby again; because, I'm watching my 4th semi regular to regular go down into the rabbit hole, probably never to return in 2 years.
I know most, as in the VAST majority have serious RX, mental and emotional issues, but it's really hard to watch a girl become a complete slave to her monkey and know there is nothing I can do to help. I know I really should avoid any kind of emotional attachment, but when we actually get along and even start to hang out before and or after sessions, when they aren't in the grip of needing to get well or so well they nod off. It's just tough to watch.
I think it's def time for me to take a break.
How do you guys handle it?We have all been there. No matter what they say, they are all playing us, it's a means to an end. The addiction comes first. These girls aren't seeing us for a relationship. Move on to something else. It's easier. Good luck.
Surprise kierra milan pregnant.
Her sugar daddy his will be now daddy.
DireWolf75
06-11-17, 17:18
I've been through a bunch of them. How do I handle. Once they hit a risky point I move on, cut contact, never see them again and replace them. Not trying to sound crude but you can't help them. Many don't want help. And there are a million more. The best I ever had is on this list. A few ended up dead. But not with my money or support. And a few ended up clean far far away.
Mongers, active mongers, any thoughts on the sharp increase in BBW ads? Its covering every ethnic group. For my younger folks, is BBW in right now? I will say this, if they are clean and look even remotely close to their pics, greek and good brain should be on the menu. Check out the ads all over from the weekend. Are the ads legit? Suriyah, Madison Banks, Amber Dior etc;.
Gentlemen, buy more pussy and pleasure so that your funds may fuel this epidemic. But at the same time I want you all to be complacent and keep telling yourself that your money is going to be spent on diapers and food for the kids. For those that smoke crack with these girls (yes there are those that do this) and drive these girls to go get drugs, I want you to pat yourself on the back. I love the chaos and misery that this epidemic propagates. Keep the feeding the devil, gentlemen. Hehehehe. I want America to lose the war on drugs.
I've had a couple of those. Long story short there's nothing you can do to help. She has to want to do it first and foremost, then and only then can you lend a supportive hand. I watched one of the two I was with choose to dry out (or whatever the term is used) at my house over the Thanksgiving holiday. She chose me to do that, so I guess she felt most comfortable with me. I don't know, but it was hard to watch her go through that. I didn't have an emotional connection with her, so it was hard in that respect, but still, watching that was not fun. The generation in their 20's is going through an epidemic with many dying. I just recently let go of one who I had high hopes for as a baby, but I saw the signs and exited early.
I've never given someone references before. Is it a quick call to providers? Do they just say something like 'Have you seen Alexander?. He said you would remember him, because he's the one who makes peanut butter pancakes?
DarkSideOfMe
06-29-17, 12:58
I've never given someone references before. Is it a quick call to providers? Do they just say something like 'Have you seen Alexander?. He said you would remember him, because he's the one who makes peanut butter pancakes?It can be that simple, but some want more info on you, name, state, reg. #s, my dick will never be in that much need! Sorry! Drk.
What's that on the table next to the screwdriver?
http://columbus.backpage.com/WomenSeekMen/devon-is-bakk-and-lonely/42167298
What's that on the table next to the screwdriver?
http://columbus.backpage.com/WomenSeekMen/devon-is-bakk-and-lonely/42167298Looks like a mirror with powder and maybe a syringe haha.
WatchUrSix
07-05-17, 12:10
Need a few suggestions for daytime.
Senior members only, please pm me.
Looks more like a crack pipe to me, glad to see she knows how to spend her money well.
Looks like a mirror with powder and maybe a syringe haha.
Seems your post got deleted. I was so curious on what you had to say.
What's that on the table next to the screwdriver?
http://columbus.backpage.com/WomenSeekMen/devon-is-bakk-and-lonely/42167298Crack pipe.
DireWolf75
07-07-17, 21:25
How can you tell? It's a drug pipe 4 sure; just curious how you guys are sure crack? From my experiences these stems are used for smoking hard, tweak, perc, tar. I see a prescription bottle. Could be coincidence or could be perc 30. Often it is a combo for most chics. More than one flavor.
The Degenerate
07-12-17, 17:10
Can or do LEOs check a chick's phone if their looking for Johns? Just curious. I've used my personal phone set up a massage session and I wonder if, well, any of you guys use your personal cellphones to set up appointments, etc?
JustHereNow
07-12-17, 22:40
Can or do LEOs check a chick's phone if their looking for Johns? Just curious. I've used my personal phone set up a massage session and I wonder if, well, any of you guys use your personal cellphones to set up appointments, etc?It would be standard operating procedure, if a "chick" is busted weather for drugs or "working" for uncle to ask permission to search the providers phone. Weather the provider allows or not is on a YMMV standard but if they (LEO) really feel there is something in it of value, they will secure a search warrant and do whatever they can to get into it.
If your worried about them busing you for getting a massage with a happy ending or some other FS event, I would not sweat it. NOW if it was a girl who could have been underage or they suspected was a human trafficking victim and they wanted to make a statement, they surely could use that to call you in to chat which does not mean arrest but they will put the fear of god into you if they can. Remember they have to have probable cause that a crime was committed for an arrest to be made, your number in the phone does not mean a crime was committed. I will say it is not unheard of for an arrest to be made with less than what I would consider probable cause, but that is to make a statement and if you get off, they don't care its going to cost you $$$ and time.
Hot Dogg, I get to pop my cherry again.
Newly setup in Ohio from not so far away. Will hopefully have something to report fairly soon as I'm open for buisness.
-G.
GhostRider50
07-17-17, 16:13
Can or do LEOs check a chick's phone if their looking for Johns? Just curious. I've used my personal phone set up a massage session and I wonder if, well, any of you guys use your personal cellphones to set up appointments, etc?I have used my personal phone, since I'm single and don't have anything to hide, however, I too am cautious about who could get my number, etc.
So much easier to pay 15.00 a month for a throw away and not worry about it. Even if LEO had the time, and budget to track down John's calls, they would have to prove it was really me using the phone at the time. IF you have an SO, I would strongly suggest a throw away for mongering purposes. Hope this helps.
Midwest Dude
07-17-17, 18:26
I have used my personal phone, since I'm single and don't have anything to hide, however, I too am cautious about who could get my number, etc.
So much easier to pay 15.00 a month for a throw away and not worry about it. Even if LEO had the time, and budget to track down John's calls, they would have to prove it was really me using the phone at the time. IF you have an SO, I would strongly suggest a throw away for mongering purposes. Hope this helps.Also this is the reason why I NEVER send my pics to these females. Oddly enough, more and more of them seem to ask for pics (I haven't seen Caliar for that reason). If you send your pic and the cops have a way to get in it, plausible deniability is out the window.
BuckeyeFanatic
07-17-17, 20:47
I have used my personal phone, since I'm single and don't have anything to hide, however, I too am cautious about who could get my number, etc.
So much easier to pay 15.00 a month for a throw away and not worry about it. Even if LEO had the time, and budget to track down John's calls, they would have to prove it was really me using the phone at the time. IF you have an SO, I would strongly suggest a throw away for mongering purposes. Hope this helps.Have you thought about a google voice number linked to a fake gmail account?
Have you thought about a google voice number linked to a fake gmail account?If you want a true anonymous email stay away from any US based provider. I personally use an email provider from the Ukraine. No way are they getting any info from them.
How many different girls in the fotos?
http://columbus.backpage.com/WomenSeekMen/experience-the-perfection-of-pleasure-young-beautiful-girl-wanting-to-make-you-feel-great/36289483
She writes "I". Should she type "We" instead?
How many different girls in the fotos?
http://columbus.backpage.com/WomenSeekMen/experience-the-perfection-of-pleasure-young-beautiful-girl-wanting-to-make-you-feel-great/36289483
She writes "I". Should she type "We" instead?Text her and ask if this is Cody.
May have to move for my job after all these years. So far I've been given a choice of Cincinnati or Cleveland area. I'll be about 50 miles out in the country from either.
Living away from the city is nothing new and I've often thought I'm better off for it. If I lived closer to the ladies I'd always be broke Ha ha.
Anyone use a phone app to make calls? I use a text app & that works great most times. Used to use disposable cell but was always running out of minutes or they expired. I don't play regularly.
Thanks.
Anyone use a phone app to make calls? I use a text app & that works great most times. Used to use disposable cell but was always running out of minutes or they expired. I don't play regularly.
Thanks.Google Voice + Google Hangouts. I like because if a number gets compromised you just get a new number.
May have to move for my job after all these years. So far I've been given a choice of Cincinnati or Cleveland area. I'll be about 50 miles out in the country from either.
Living away from the city is nothing new and I've often thought I'm better off for it. If I lived closer to the ladies I'd always be broke Ha ha.I would rather be in Cleveland. NO question. Hotter women. Better baseball team. NBA basketball. More ethnic providers. Not just the plain vanilla ladies from the Queen City.
If you wanted to pick up a 30- or 40-something MILF in Columbus for a one night stand and perhaps more, what bar would you go to?
If you wanted to pick up a 30- or 40-something MILF in Columbus for a one night stand and perhaps more, what bar would you go to?I have heard that the bar at LaScala is good for that.
I have heard that the bar at LaScala is good for that.I am not kidding when I say this. You are at least 20 years off on the age at La Scala. I would say they average between 60-70 yrs old. Bravo on Bethel used to fit that category but their average age might have gone up there too. I've heard the Grumpy Troll on Bethel has a mature crowd and you might find some higher end ladies in some of the higher end restaurants in the Short North, like Hyde Park or at one of Matt the Millers in Dublin or Grandview.
GentleGiant43
08-21-17, 17:04
I stopped posting here a while ago for many reasons. Pretty much kept it to pm's. But a repeat of something from a year-and-a-half ago happened again a couple days ago. I spoke with one person from this site In pm about a lady recently mentioned on here. This exact same thing happened a year-and-a-half ago with her. I get a text from her saying "so you're talking shit about me on USASG" I've never said a bad word about this woman. She's not willing to tell me who or what he claims that I said. Because she knows that I would confront this person and she's afraid it would snowball.
Now the reason I'm posting this WTF is wrong with some of you on here. Do you feel threatened because I have spent a lot of time with this woman. Are you hoping she will get pissed off at me and never see me again. Maybe freeing up some more time for you. Or are you trying to get brownie points trying to look good in her eyes so you'll become her preferred regular and maybe get a little extra.
Well you definitely made her question it. But just like the last time I didn't say anything bad about her nor talk shit so it may come back to bite you in the ass.
WTF is wrong with people on this site. That is why I quit posting publicly and only spoke to a couple trusted members in pm.
WTF is wrong with people on this site. That is why I quit posting publicly and only spoke to a couple trusted members in pm.I've had some similar bad experiences. Likewise a year and a half ago a provider accused me of posting lies on USASG. I politely but firmly recommended she get her facts straight before making false accusations. Similarly, I've had guys from this forum undermine me in other ways. I think there's lots of potential motivations. Perhaps the guy is trying to curry favor. Or he's seeking a better rate. He's immature. He's jealous. He's spiteful. He's selfish. Who knows? It burns my britches. Please stop it! But in the end I just assume that not all providers operate above board and not all dudes in the forum play by the rules.
GentleGiant43
08-21-17, 22:19
This may get deleted by admin but I don't really care anymore since I'm semi-retired. I posted the drama and I stated that I only spoke to one person through pm.
Would you like to PM me again and explain yourself. Why you would lie to a provider on your behalf. After I gave you intell that would make you want to see this person, keep in mind I do have your replies saved. Unless you don't have the balls to step up and tell me why you lied to her saying I was talking shit about her. I won't throw your name out in here so everybody knows the POS that you really are I've already done that 10 pm Two people I trust on here and I will definitely keep it in mind who I talk to and share intell with in the future.
I pretty much figure you won't have the balls to Step Up and talk to me. I would normally Let It Go. But since this is the second time it's happened you pretty much pissed me off.
This may get deleted by admin but I don't really care anymore since I'm semi-retired. I posted the drama and I stated that I only spoke to one person through pm.
Would you like to PM me again and explain yourself. Why you would lie to a provider on your behalf. After I gave you intell that would make you want to see this person, keep in mind I do have your replies saved. Unless you don't have the balls to step up and tell me why you lied to her saying I was talking shit about her. I won't throw your name out in here so everybody knows the POS that you really are I've already done that 10 pm Two people I trust on here and I will definitely keep it in mind who I talk to and share intell with in the future.
I pretty much figure you won't have the balls to Step Up and talk to me. I would normally Let It Go. But since this is the second time it's happened you pretty much pissed me off.I have been posting less as I have found a couple of girls that I like to see, so I see them regularly and the same things were happening to me as happened to you. I always thought that trying to undermine other guys is not a great way to operate. But to each their own.
Member #5538
08-23-17, 03:16
She's garnered some headlines again I see. She used to advertise online around the 2004-2007 timeframe as the LovePirate. A little meaty but she had one of the best pu $$ies for sale in Columbus. I don't see any posts of her here but I know she was discussed many times on usasexguide but it could be that the posts were so long ago. I know she was discussed elsewhere too. I banged her raw so many times CIP and I will never forget when I did her right on my stairs. She was the only lady who actually requested me to bitc&slap her across her face and thoroughly enjoyed it. This one was so fun!! I bet some of you mongers who were around in the 2005 timeframe remember her. She only had two younger kids then but it sounds like she's up to 6 kids now!!
https://shesahomewrecker.com/mandi-roberts-westerville-ohio/#page-2.
Saw this linked from CL.
http://scumbagged.com/2017/08/23/backpage-columbus-ohio-escort/
If accurate, scary & they got the wrong guy.
Midwest Dude
08-23-17, 22:49
Saw this linked from CL.
http://scumbagged.com/2017/08/23/backpage-columbus-ohio-escort/
If accurate, scary & they got the wrong guy.I think someone said on her before that this might be a setup.
John HandCock
08-23-17, 23:34
Saw this linked from CL.
http://scumbagged.com/2017/08/23/backpage-columbus-ohio-escort/
If accurate, scary & they got the wrong guy.Sounds like a false story to me. An inconsistent story det5 ail, took the stairs but got off on 4th floor to walk back. Why would 3 undercover officers be in the ice / vending machine area with a john on his way up. Those guys would be loaded down with snacks LOL. They wouldn't arrest the guy till he was in the room. His phone wouldn't be a match for the text messages and he was probably a registered guest. To many holes in the story for me.
JustHereNow
08-24-17, 12:08
Sounds like a false story to me. An inconsistent story det5 ail, took the stairs but got off on 4th floor to walk back. Why would 3 undercover officers be in the ice / vending machine area with a john on his way up. Those guys would be loaded down with snacks LOL. They wouldn't arrest the guy till he was in the room. His phone wouldn't be a match for the text messages and he was probably a registered guest. To many holes in the story for me.I agree but if it is indeed true, the guy who made the report is a dick and may have ruined someones reputation and marriage.
GhostRider50
08-27-17, 08:17
I have heard that the bar at LaScala is good for that.I have been single now for about 5 years, and have done it all. I had a great wing man, and we would hit the bars on the weekends. On the Rocks, Grandview area, etc. La Scala is definitely GILF. Tequila Cowboys in Polaris, along with a few other places, have divorced MILF"S hanging with younger co workers trying to hook up, but looking mostly for long term relationships. I have tried internet dating, and when all is said and done, USASG is my friend. Thousands of dollars wasted on drinks, dinner, and listening to bullshit about how fucked up the ex is and bad she has been treated. If you like to go to bars, go to bars with bands, and enjoy the atmosphere. You never know, but if you are trolling for a one nighter, chances are you won't do well, unless BBBW is your thing. I'm in my 60's but look younger, and in great shape, and have game. An old friend once said, "pussy is NEVER free".
GhostRider50
08-27-17, 08:23
I agree but if it is indeed true, the guy who made the report is a dick and may have ruined someones reputation and marriage.The poor guy in the Chrysler!! I have used fake vehicle descriptions, especially when picking up a new provider. Once in a strange town I gave a different room number, and waited in the lobby for the outcall provider. But that was a long time ago.
GhostRider50
08-27-17, 08:26
I have been posting less as I have found a couple of girls that I like to see, so I see them regularly and the same things were happening to me as happened to you. I always thought that trying to undermine other guys is not a great way to operate. But to each their own.I saw two providers from two different SM on here. I have shared a few with who I know and trust. Other than that, I grow my own garden, and reach out through PM's. I don't help window shoppers, who don't contribute.
LecherousMonk
08-28-17, 20:44
"Pussy is NEVER free".Words to live by, and also why old, in-shape, and rich beats young, out-of-shape, and poor. FML.
http://columbus.backpage.com/MenSeekWomen/cooll-and-clasy/48875197
I'm speechless.
John HandCock
09-08-17, 09:23
http://columbus.backpage.com/MenSeekWomen/cooll-and-clasy/48875197
I'm speechless.And someone will answer the bell LOL.
http://columbus.backpage.com/MenSeekWomen/cooll-and-clasy/48875197
I'm speechless.Al least she has a good grasp on the English language.
http://columbus.backpage.com/MenSeekWomen/cooll-and-clasy/48875197
I'm speechless.Jesus fuck! Why would you post that with no warning?
http://columbus.backpage.com/MenSeekWomen/cooll-and-clasy/48875197
I'm speechless.I wonder if she gets any serious calls for service.
She will drill you.
http://columbus.backpage.com/WomenSeekMen/desiree-is-ready-now/48252143
GhostRider50
09-11-17, 19:14
She will drill you.
http://columbus.backpage.com/WomenSeekMen/desiree-is-ready-now/48252143She looks pretty good FA, are you speaking positively?
She looks pretty good FA, are you speaking positively?There is a cordless drill on the table. I wonder if she uses it as fore play.
Midwest Dude
09-11-17, 22:27
Have any of these females ever ask why'all about your opinion on their rates and services? Based on some of the reviews and rates these ladies say, they need help in understanding what works and what doesn't.
Have any of these females ever ask why'all about your opinion on their rates and services? Based on some of the reviews and rates these ladies say, they need help in understanding what works and what doesn't.I may be jaded, but in my experience if these girls could learn from our advice, they wouldn't be so bad at managing their lives -financially, time wise, emotionally, all domains. I've offered hints and suggestions to some of them but only if I feel they had the intellectual capacity to absorb constructive criticism.
LittleToNoThin
09-12-17, 09:07
She will drill you.
http://columbus.backpage.com/WomenSeekMen/desiree-is-ready-now/48252143And then hide the evidence.
Kenwood Jack
09-12-17, 20:57
I am moving from Columbus at the end of September. A dearth of brother mongers have been helpful here. Thus, I took a self imposed hiatus from reporting for about a year. As I leave, I am publishing again to remind my brethren that every monger would be richer, smarter, and safer if we all worked together. In Cincinnati, my home, USA SEX GUIDE rocks! If you read USA Adult Classifieds, you will find no fewer than 40 ads from different providers today September 12, 2017. Most all are not rip offs, are not offering poor service, and are not high priced! Ones that do this never last long and are called out on it. Because of the competition, prices in Cincinnati are the lowest around! Why is this? Cincinnati mongers band together, bring individual providers into the fold by introducing them to USA Adult Classifieds, and let these individual providers battle it out amongst themselves for the monger dollar. A provider who is marginal does not last very long!
Please, as you read my reviews, just think how valuable they would have been 6 months ago when the info was fresh! Can't we all just get along? I admit that I will not respond to mongers who do not contribute a virtual surfeit of info, but I always put important info into my reviews. In my opinion, most reviews here are like most of the providers - lackluster.
A good review should contain a link, a phone number, an area of town, neighboorhood safety, incall safety, general looks, skills, ease of setting the appointment, price, attitude, smoking and other smells, and menu for everyone among other things. If you smoke, you should still report about smoking smells. This is more important to me than how big your dick is or a description of how you came three times in a short stay! Do you not put a word about the geographical area? Many mongers won't travel out east, or outside 270, or will only frequent 5 miles from the Polaris area, or. If you only do CFS, and you don't find out (and put in in your review) if a particular provider offers BBBJCIM, you are doing a disservice to your fellow brothers.
Hint to those of you who went to school on the short bus. The above is rhetorical. No response is warranted.
Jack.
What do you guys do in this situation? I would really prefer to never send a photo, but there are a few girls I want to see that mention it in their ads.
What do you guys do in this situation? I would really prefer to never send a photo, but there are a few girls I want to see that mention it in their ads.I will never and have never sent a photo to any lady. If everyone did this, they would abandon this ask very quickly as they would have no business. I have told numerous girls no pics and not one told me well no pic, no visit. I simply tell them, I don't send pics and if they want to meet that I am ready and they can decide.
I will never and have never sent a photo to any lady. If everyone did this, they would abandon this ask very quickly as they would have no business. I have told numerous girls no pics and not one told me well no pic, no visit. I simply tell them, I don't send pics and if they want to meet that I am ready and they can decide.I've generally been reluctant to send any info that's might identify me personally. I have bent that rule only a couple of times. Never again. A so-called provider threatened to publish a foto I sent. Not even a face pic. As Twisted states, it's not necessary. If she stipulates this as a requirement, just move on.
Midwest Dude
09-18-17, 07:25
I've generally been reluctant to send any info that's might identify me personally. I have bent that rule only a couple of times. Never again. A so-called provider threatened to publish a foto I sent. Not even a face pic. As Twisted states, it's not necessary. If she stipulates this as a requirement, just move on.Yep. Another thing to consider: if they get busted (and it's logical that they will) having that pic on their phone is game over for you. It seems popular though, as a lot of these broads are asking for pics. NEVER SEND PICS.
Yep. Another thing to consider: if they get busted (and it's logical that they will) having that pic on their phone is game over for you. It seems popular though, as a lot of these broads are asking for pics. NEVER SEND PICS.I agree, don't ever send pics to a provider, but if you are using a burner phone, how would LE know the identity of the pic? Even if they could connect the pic and phone # to your identity, how would they have enough proof you actually saw the girl? Why would they even bother? I think that unless a John walks into a sting operation where they operate out of a hotel and use decoys, it is unlikely he will ever encounter LE.
What do you guys do in this situation? I would really prefer to never send a photo, but there are a few girls I want to see that mention it in their ads.A potential provider recently asked me for a dick pic with 2 fingers in the photo. I guess she was using it screen for LE. I sent it to her, just to see how it all played out. I reasoned that if anyone is going to seek to exploit me with a penis pic, let 'me try! I thought it was a humerous switch from the girls who complain about disgusting guys who mail photos of their junk.
A potential provider recently asked me for a dick pic with 2 fingers in the photo. I guess she was using it screen for LE. I sent it to her, just to see how it all played out. I reasoned that if anyone is going to seek to exploit me with a penis pic, let 'me try! I thought it was a humerous switch from the girls who complain about disgusting guys who mail photos of their junk.I am not sure I would do that, but that is something I would consider. Blackmailing me would be very hard as I have very little family and I am single with no kids. And you are right, most girls complain about that but I do recall one girl who is still on the BP scene asking for something like that from me years ago. She said that she only saw guys who were on the average to small size of the spectrum as she was very tight and anything past average was way too big for her. I saw her after telling her she could come look at it in [erson and if I was too big we could come to an agreement on some help for her time. And to her credit, she was not easy to enter.
https://escortbabylon.net/#columbus/photos/7403223935/23185197
http://columbus.backpage.com/MenSeekWomen/come-play-with-me/49755032
It's been awhile since we had one of these.
Looks like he's doing his accounting.
https://escortbabylon.net/#columbus/photos/7403223935/23185197
http://columbus.backpage.com/MenSeekWomen/come-play-with-me/49755032
It's been awhile since we had one of these.
Looks like he's doing his accounting.I saw that earlier and I thought "What would FolkArt say about this epic fail of a pic".
DesmondSpinoza
09-20-17, 14:45
https://escortbabylon.net/#columbus/photos/7403223935/23185197
http://columbus.backpage.com/MenSeekWomen/come-play-with-me/49755032
It's been awhile since we had one of these.
Looks like he's doing his accounting.He's a street pharmacist and he's writing her a prescription.
Do you guys do this or keep it strictly hotel? I'm mainly asking about SW really, do you ever take them back to your place?
Do you guys do this or keep it strictly hotel? I'm mainly asking about SW really, do you ever take them back to your place?The risks of outcall have been discussed a few times on this forum including BP#9311, BP#9312, TTAB#1043.
Personally I've brought SW (or SW types who advertise) to my place. I generally remove from sight anything valuable. I also limit the exposure to specific areas of the house. Bathroom, bedroom. Even so, there are a number of cases of "sticky fingers". Girls who have nothing tend to take anything. Soap, razors, body lotion, hair spray, phone chargers. But I usually don't stress out if the session was good enough. Just consider it a tip!
Local Looks
09-26-17, 16:35
He's a street pharmacist and he's writing her a prescription.That is an undocumented pharmacist.
Do you guys do this or keep it strictly hotel? I'm mainly asking about SW really, do you ever take them back to your place?I won't deal in hotels nor motels. The info they want is not something I am willing to give out. I will not do incall at any private residences any more. Too many crazy stories of what these girls are doing these days. I live in a relatively quiet neighborhood and as long as I pick up the girls and bring them back, nothing bad ever happens. Just be smart like what FolkArt said. Control where they go and what is around. If they take a few cheap dual blade razors, a bar of soap or something of the like that is in the bathroom that I allow them to use, I don't care. The cost is so minimal that I have no desire to fight them over it. One girl I seee gives me a better deal because she knows I will let her leave with a full pack of baby wipes, a bar of soap and some disposable razors and some mid grade shaving cream. As she says, that is worth more to her than the discount she gives me. I buy in bulk for far less than any of those corner stores will. So while I have rarely had issues, be careful if the girl has a "driver". He might be the BF and he may make a scene until the cops arrive. Not the best outcome, but the police didn't really ask too many questions. The girl told them that she didn't feel safe leaving with her friend and that she wanted to stay at my place. I told the cops that I wanted him gone and that was that. About 3 minutes after they arrived, the angry BF was gone and the cops right behind him. I dropped her off later at a different house and I have never seen her again.
What do you guys think about ladies who don't shave their armpits?
What do you guys think about ladies who don't shave their armpits?I do not find hairy armpits attractive on a woman. I really prefer shaved legs.
When I DATY, a naturally hairy condition is fine.
I imagine that some men want a shaved pussy with hairy armpits.
Traveler Two
09-26-17, 23:42
Do you guys do this or keep it strictly hotel? I'm mainly asking about SW really, do you ever take them back to your place?All the time, there's no place like home. Just be selective and don't leave anything important around.
Kenwood Jack
09-27-17, 18:14
As I have said before, the mongers here should work together better. Notice the prices in Cincinnati! Notice the number of providers in Cincinnati who advertise on the USA Adult Classifieds.
Just Jenna
Wishona Star
Won't Forget Me
Eastern Lily AMP
Best AMP
AMP on Broad Street Blacklick
The above. I have seen personally. As well as some others. Some noteworthy. Mostly not! Any questions. Just ask.
Kenwood Jack.
ColsBuckeye315
10-03-17, 23:19
This looks to be Jewels up to her usual BBFS shenanigans.
https://www.pornhub.com/view_video.php?viewkey=ph59020c9963430
Has anyone else ever come across videos of some of the local talent? I've shot quite a few personally but would probably never post them publicly.
Midwest Dude
10-04-17, 07:23
This looks to be Jewels up to her usual BBFS shenanigans.
https://www.pornhub.com/view_video.php?viewkey=ph59020c9963430
Has anyone else ever come across videos of some of the local talent? I've shot quite a few personally but would probably never post them publicly.I saw a few of Giuliana a while ago but they were deleted.
I will never trust a TER review again. I wanted to be with a model type, just once in my life. That's it, and it will be out of my system. I finally find someone, based on pics and TER reviews, that fits the bill perfectly. Lots of reviews (not like 50 or 100, but enough to argue that it's not just a couple of idiots making reviews.) Nothing but glowing reviews about looks and performance. 9's and 10's across the board. Not one negative statement was made in any of these reviews. I think some of them commented that it's really her in the pictures.
I schedule. On the very expensive side, but this is a bucket list item, so it's ok to splurge. I get to the hotel room She's at best a 7. If it's her pics, they're at least 15 years old. And she's not nearly the nympho described consistently in the reviews. She seemed more interested in just talking after I finished once. In the reviews, everyone else was offered 'second helpings'. I'm kicking myself for not being honest and saying 'look, we both know you're not the lady in the pics. That's false advertising. ' (And promptly leave.) No money for her troubles, given that she was dishonest. She should be giving ME money for wasting so much of my time.
Here are the possibilities in this 'trilemma' 1) EVERY last one of these reviewers are lying. 2) EVERY last one of them has zero observation skills. Or, 3) The lady in the pics is sharing her phone with another person, and sometimes you get the one in the pics, sometimes you get the other one. (Or similarly, the first one retired, and she gave the other one access to her phone and website.).
I'm not putting the name up here. ONLY if you suspect who I'm referring to, AND if you are planning on seeing her, you can pm me. Don't just pm me because you're curious. If I tell you, DO NOT put her name on this thread. I probably will do so at a future date. I have my reasons for waiting.
This looks to be Jewels up to her usual BBFS shenanigans.
https://www.pornhub.com/view_video.php?viewkey=ph59020c9963430
Has anyone else ever come across videos of some of the local talent? I've shot quite a few personally but would probably never post them publicly.This topic was discussed in July on the BackPage Advertisers Review thread: http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?3987-BackPage-Advertiser-Reviews&p=3471791&viewfull=1#post3471791.
Check out the post and the link. Not sure I would use the word "talent," but she is a local provider.
NSFW!
And not for the faint of heart. As Jizman said: "There is nothing aesthetically pleasing about that video. ".
This looks to be Jewels up to her usual BBFS shenanigans.
https://www.pornhub.com/view_video.php?viewkey=ph59020c9963430
Has anyone else ever come across videos of some of the local talent? I've shot quite a few personally but would probably never post them publicly.Who is Jewels? I am not familiar with her. Is she a SW? I do not recognize her from BP.
Midwest Dude
10-06-17, 19:58
Who is Jewels? I am not familiar with her. Is she a SW? I do not recognize her from BP.http://liveescortreviews.com/ad/columbus/614-772-0541/1/312233
http://liveescortreviews.com/ad/columbus/614-772-0541/1/312233She is on BP but the pictures are a little different. I saw her once and she was rail thin. I like the spinners but she was to small for me and a lot of smoke smell so not a repeat. However, she delivered and her attitude was great.
Viking2017
10-07-17, 09:08
She is on BP but the pictures are a little different. I saw her once and she was rail thin. I like the spinners but she was to small for me and a lot of smoke smell so not a repeat. However, she delivered and her attitude was great.Is she even active anymore?? I haven't seen a ad for her since the beginning of 2017.
She is on BP but the pictures are a little different. I saw her once and she was rail thin. I like the spinners but she was to small for me and a lot of smoke smell so not a repeat. However, she delivered and her attitude was great.Jewels has been out of the biz for 6 months or more and is knocked up. She is clean and has a new BF. She was never the best looking but she sure did try to give you the best time she could.
She is on BP but the pictures are a little different. I saw her once and she was rail thin. I like the spinners but she was to small for me and a lot of smoke smell so not a repeat. However, she delivered and her attitude was great.I don't believe Jewels is on BP anymore. She went to rehab and got her life together. Kudos to her! She looks quite different now. She's now either retired or very UTR. I have no idea when that video was taken but I'm pretty sure it's not recent.
Hi guys,
Weird request. I'm looking to cross one off my bucket list.
I'm looking for a girl who is a natural blonde (carpet matches the curtains). And she has to actually have some carpet down there.
Any suggestions?
Thanks!
What do you guys think about ladies who don't shave their armpits?Not into it. I prefer shaved.
I will never trust a TER review again. I wanted to be with a model type, just once in my life. That's it, and it will be out of my system. I finally find someone, based on pics and TER reviews, that fits the bill perfectly. Lots of reviews (not like 50 or 100, but enough to argue that it's not just a couple of idiots making reviews.) Nothing but glowing reviews about looks and performance. 9's and 10's across the board. Not one negative statement was made in any of these reviews. I think some of them commented that it's really her in the pictures.
I schedule. On the very expensive side, but this is a bucket list item, so it's ok to splurge. I get to the hotel room She's at best a 7. If it's her pics, they're at least 15 years old. And she's not nearly the nympho described consistently in the reviews. She seemed more interested in just talking after I finished once. In the reviews, everyone else was offered 'second helpings'. I'm kicking myself for not being honest and saying 'look, we both know you're not the lady in the pics. That's false advertising. ' (And promptly leave.) No money for her troubles, given that she was dishonest. She should be giving ME money for wasting so much of my time.
Here are the possibilities in this 'trilemma' 1) EVERY last one of these reviewers are lying. 2) EVERY last one of them has zero observation skills. Or, 3) The lady in the pics is sharing her phone with another person, and sometimes you get the one in the pics, sometimes you get the other one. (Or similarly, the first one retired, and she gave the other one access to her phone and website.).
I'm not putting the name up here. ONLY if you suspect who I'm referring to, AND if you are planning on seeing her, you can pm me. Don't just pm me because you're curious. If I tell you, DO NOT put her name on this thread. I probably will do so at a future date. I have my reasons for waiting.I don't trust that site. I've read that these ****** can get any negative review of them pulled down from the site so only positive reviews are left. Plus you got to pay to read reviews if I recall correctly anyway screw that site. USA sex guide for the win!
JonHangcok
10-21-17, 17:04
I don't trust that site. I've read that these ****** can get any negative review of them pulled down from the site so only positive reviews are left. Plus you got to pay to read reviews if I recall correctly anyway screw that site. USA sex guide for the win!Unless the rules on TER have changed, you get VIP access for 15 days if you submit a review of a provider and it gets approved. I haven't been on there in months so they may have changed thing up, but I've had VIP access in the past and have never paid a dime.
Midwest Dude
10-21-17, 19:54
Unless the rules on TER have changed, you get VIP access for 15 days if you submit a review of a provider and it gets approved. I haven't been on there in months so they may have changed thing up, but I've had VIP access in the past and have never paid a dime.Hasn't changed.
Midwest Dude
10-21-17, 19:55
I don't trust that site. I've read that these ****** can get any negative review of them pulled down from the site so only positive reviews are left. Plus you got to pay to read reviews if I recall correctly anyway screw that site. USA sex guide for the win!That is not true. I've seen many a negative reviews on there.
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Seriously?
You're posting that on our site?
Think about this for a sec
A2
That is not true. I've seen many a negative reviews on there.I had the other site send me a message that the provider I had written a bad review about was challenging that review. They asked me to work with the provider to clear the bad review. I told them I had the text messages, ad I answered and a number of other relevant details to support my review of her as a cash and dash girl. I then wrote to her and clearly described what happened and I asked her which part s were untrue. The fact I met her where she wanted to, the Shell station in Whitehall, she got in my car, asked for a half the donation and when I gave her a 20 to get cigs she then ran across the street. She then replied that I had seen her twice after that happened and that we had a good time. I agreed that the next 2 times were good, but that didn't change the fact that she did get me for $20 the first time we met. In addition to this, I have had them tell me to alter my reviews as they were too negative. I rarely go over to that site anymore, as too many things are complete BS.
John HandCock
10-22-17, 22:47
I had the other site send me a message that the provider I had written a bad review about was challenging that review. They asked me to work with the provider to clear the bad review. I told them I had the text messages, ad I answered and a number of other relevant details to support my review of her as a cash and dash girl. I then wrote to her and clearly described what happened and I asked her which part s were untrue. The fact I met her where she wanted to, the Shell station in Whitehall, she got in my car, asked for a half the donation and when I gave her a 20 to get cigs she then ran across the street. She then replied that I had seen her twice after that happened and that we had a good time. I agreed that the next 2 times were good, but that didn't change the fact that she did get me for $20 the first time we met. In addition to this, I have had them tell me to alter my reviews as they were too negative. I rarely go over to that site anymore, as too many things are complete BS.Thats pretty funny. She ripped you off but back you go twice. Did you write 2 good reviews for her then? That would only seem right.
Thats pretty funny. She ripped you off but back you go twice. Did you write 2 good reviews for her then? That would only seem right.I did write one good review for her. I just couldn't get her off of my mind, so I called her up and went to her incall. The best part was she had no idea she ripped me off 3 weeks before. I didn't tell her until after the second time I saw her. She the begged me to take down the bad review. Told her I couldn't do that.
Trophytime
10-23-17, 05:39
Hi guys,
Weird request. I'm looking to cross one off my bucket list.
I'm looking for a girl who is a natural blonde (carpet matches the curtains). And she has to actually have some carpet down there.
Any suggestions?
Thanks!Not weird in my book. Just very hard to find. A lot of lazys would rather shave than wash. Brainwashed.
That is not true. I've seen many a negative reviews on there.They can ask to get negative reviews taken down. They also ask you not be too negative LOL what? It ruins the whole point of a review site.
Not weird in my book. Just very hard to find. A lot of lazys would rather shave than wash. Brainwashed.I just had one with a natural Bush and armpit hair.
Juggernaut10
10-27-17, 19:32
I just had one with a natural Bush and armpit hair.I love a natural Bush. Especially Asians massage parlor girls with a full Bush which they usually have.
Actually, 13 of your 39 posts have been about this one hooker and how she's so worth it and how it's cool she wants a deposit.
Personally, I find it to be an hilarious read. Please carry on!Either a Shill, the new pimp, or totally p& whipped, but something doesn't smell right.
I've seen some clever girls pull it off for a while before A2 tracks them down.
I could be wrong, but theres more to get hooked on than h these days.
Calling BS.
-G.
Every provider has the right to run their business the way they want to.
Posting / bitching about their rates, their screening process or the lack of services is something that makes hobbyists look cheap and immature. Personally I believe that all USAAC ads should have rates, but posting rates has its own issues. Guys low ball and women go without work when, at their discretion, they could offer a one-time deal to at least make a few dollars when they are slow. Posting a hour rate would prevent me from contacting a $400 lady when I only have $200 in my pocket, thus saving her and I a lot of time.
At least with rates in an ad you can easily determine if the lady is in your budget. Do you go to the Refectory and say "I'm not going to pay $58 dollars for a steak here when I can get it for $20 at Longhorn. "? Do you tell a provider, "God, you are so good that you should be getting $300 instead of $200. "?
Sensible consumers go to Longhorn and enjoy a "Prime Cut" at a bargain price or eat at the Refectory when they can afford it and enjoy that too.
In this hobby price doesn't equate to quality. There are $400 an hour hookers that don't deserve $180 and $150 and hour ladies that deserve $300. The old saying from the abortion fight of years ago, "Her Body, Her Decision" applies to the hobby also.
Do your research and make a choice. If you see a provider that charges more and are dissatisfied, WAFR (Write A Fucking Review) and state your problems with the appointment in a businesslike manner. Too many "lurkers" have "High Dollar Appointments" that aren't up to their cost and never write a review. All that this does is allow other "Brothers of the Hobby" make a similar mistake.
It's a good thing that there isn't a forum for the ladies to complain in about us. "His hygiene sucks". "He begs for BBFS in private and then condemns those who do it in public. " "He is perpetually a half hour late. " "He always books a half hour and tries to stay an hour. " are all things that many hobbyists are guilty of, but the women don't have the forum to discuss it.
We should all be thankful that there are women half our age and very pretty who are willing to suck our dicks.
Now for the Provider in Question, I have never seen her, not sure really why, but I respect her for running her business in the manner she has decided makes her comfortable.First off this is intended to be an Intel forum where you can discuss the hobby and share opinions. Now bitching about the comments is petty. Several shared how great a lady was and I gave my opinion in like fashion. I feel no need to defend my selection of rates other than no donation would impact me as its truly fun $.
Obviously one has the right to shop elsewhere if they don't agree with the offerings, but that doesn't dismiss the ability to criticize any particular method of business. We do it everyday from the cable services to online stores or at the mall.
Frankly I thinks its nuts to give $$ to a BP lady on first meeting, and more specifically no hhr option. I don't care how great the reports are. Ever heard of term YMMV?
Continue calling out the BS.
-G.
I'm sorry you had a bad experience. I too have been the "victim" of photos NOTHING like actual person you meet. Charli is who I met. Much older and heavier than pics suggest and a total turn off for me. Not sure why you won't share the name of who you saw, isn't that the point of this site to begin with? Is she a personal friend you are trying to protect? I'd feel horrible if I didn't write a review "warning" other mongers what or whom to be wary of after a bad experience. Good luck in the future. But think full disclosure is in order here?
I will never trust a TER review again. I wanted to be with a model type, just once in my life. That's it, and it will be out of my system. I finally find someone, based on pics and TER reviews, that fits the bill perfectly. Lots of reviews (not like 50 or 100, but enough to argue that it's not just a couple of idiots making reviews.) Nothing but glowing reviews about looks and performance. 9's and 10's across the board. Not one negative statement was made in any of these reviews. I think some of them commented that it's really her in the pictures.
I schedule. On the very expensive side, but this is a bucket list item, so it's ok to splurge. I get to the hotel room She's at best a 7. If it's her pics, they're at least 15 years old. And she's not nearly the nympho described consistently in the reviews. She seemed more interested in just talking after I finished once. In the reviews, everyone else was offered 'second helpings'. I'm kicking myself for not being honest and saying 'look, we both know you're not the lady in the pics. That's false advertising. ' (And promptly leave.) No money for her troubles, given that she was dishonest. She should be giving ME money for wasting so much of my time.
Here are the possibilities in this 'trilemma' 1) EVERY last one of these reviewers are lying. 2) EVERY last one of them has zero observation skills. Or, 3) The lady in the pics is sharing her phone with another person, and sometimes you get the one in the pics, sometimes you get the other one. (Or similarly, the first one retired, and she gave the other one access to her phone and website.).
I'm not putting the name up here. ONLY if you suspect who I'm referring to, AND if you are planning on seeing her, you can pm me. Don't just pm me because you're curious. If I tell you, DO NOT put her name on this thread. I probably will do so at a future date. I have my reasons for waiting.
Juggernaut10
10-30-17, 14:45
I personally would never give a provider a deposit.
FlickerFly07
11-04-17, 06:12
Continue calling out the BS.
-G.You cite this is an "Intel" forum for trading real information, then when called out on just griping hide behind it being your "opinion" and try to give it some Trump like finish of "just calling out the BS. ".
So which is it? Is it a forum for just trading factual info or does that only apply to everyone else but you? Is your opinion such a grand and informed one or just not liking a particular provider's practice that from your comments would never affect you since you don't want to pay that? Instead of posting any reviews you just seem to have a chip on your shoulder, even if you do t have any stake in it. You're like a guy who moans about a favorite sports team but has never even picked up a ball. It's easy to carp at others who you'll never care about or have anything to do with.
Please feel free to elucidate. You seem to want to paint yourself as "calling out the BS. " Now who's being a white knight for mongers? LOL.
UsedToBeDoctor
11-07-17, 15:19
Good afternoon all,
Another disappointment, another with pictures one way and when I pick them up! They are just a shadow of their former self. Stinky dirty fingernails dirty when they get in my car and close the door I can immediately smell them geesh take a shower and put on clean clothes will ya?
I will not disclose this one out of some mutual respect, for her and our wonderful hobby! I contacted her off of Seeking Arrangements. A couple emails and phone calls back and forth! She wanted me to pick her up then back to my place for a more in depth measurement of our feelings. I get to her place decent enough for a single mom with kids to play, I get it. She has me wait and she comes out and gets in. Yuk yuk yuk. I take one look at her after she shuts the door tell her I've got long term sobriety and I won't bring a druggie back to my place and "I'm going to sit this one out." Never again!
Is it because we as hobbyist tolerate this?? Turn them out of your car and tell them to clean it up. Geesch!
Usedtobedr.
Hey.
Name, we want her name.
Good afternoon all,
Another disappointment, another with pictures one way and when I pick them up! They are just a shadow of their former self. Stinky dirty fingernails dirty when they get in my car and close the door I can immediately smell them geesh take a shower and put on clean clothes will ya?
I will not disclose this one out of some mutual respect, for her and our wonderful hobby! I contacted her off of Seeking Arrangements. A couple emails and phone calls back and forth! She wanted me to pick her up then back to my place for a more in depth measurement of our feelings. I get to her place decent enough for a single mom with kids to play, I get it. She has me wait and she comes out and gets in. Yuk yuk yuk. I take one look at her after she shuts the door tell her I've got long term sobriety and I won't bring a druggie back to my place and "I'm going to sit this one out." Never again!
Is it because we as hobbyist tolerate this?? Turn them out of your car and tell them to clean it up. Geesch!
Usedtobedr.
http://columbus.backpage.com/WomenSeekMen/slim-sexy-busty-new-pics-reviewed/53526112
We haven't called out an ironically funny BP ad in a while. Notice how, by her own textual evidence, she keeps him waiting at least 11 minutes after he arrives. He almost drove away. I'm not saying she's a time waster but. . .
http://columbus.backpage.com/WomenSeekMen/slim-sexy-busty-new-pics-reviewed/53526112
We haven't called out an ironically funny BP ad in a while. Notice how, by her own textual evidence, she keeps him waiting at least 11 minutes after he arrives. He almost drove away. I'm not saying she's a time waster but. . .I liked this one with the diapers in her hand.
https://yolo.com.columbus.escortbabylon.com/post/24909434/
http://columbus.backpage.com/WomenSeekMen/not-available/53480402
Then why post?
A selfie sitting on the shitter!
https://alligator.com.columbus.escortbabylon.com/post/24811669/
http://columbus.backpage.com/WomenSeekMen/slim-sexy-busty-new-pics-reviewed/53526112
We haven't called out an ironically funny BP ad in a while. Notice how, by her own textual evidence, she keeps him waiting at least 11 minutes after he arrives. He almost drove away. I'm not saying she's a time waster but. . .http://columbus.backpage.com/WomenSeekMen/strawberry-let-me-come-and-please-you/53513057
I always laugh to myself when I see the first picture in this ad. Reminds me of My Favorite Martian.
Midwest Dude
11-21-17, 14:56
A selfie sitting on the shitter!
https://alligator.com.columbus.escortbabylon.com/post/24811669/This is a "thing" with chicks now. It's dumb.
[Deleted by Admin]
All of those site are bullshit, by putting a link here you help them get wider distribution which helps them get more readership which makes them more effective at extorting people, which is why I removed it.
UsedToBeDoctor
11-27-17, 10:01
Good afternoon all,
Another disappointment, another with pictures one way and when I pick them up! They are just a shadow of their former self. Stinky dirty fingernails dirty when they get in my car and close the door I can immediately smell them geesh take a shower and put on clean clothes will ya?
I will not disclose this one out of some mutual respect, for her and our wonderful hobby! I contacted her off of Seeking Arrangements. A couple emails and phone calls back and forth! She wanted me to pick her up then back to my place for a more in depth measurement of our feelings. I get to her place decent enough for a single mom with kids to play, I get it. She has me wait and she comes out and gets in. Yuk yuk yuk. I take one look at her after she shuts the door tell her I've got long term sobriety and I won't bring a druggie back to my place and "I'm going to sit this one out." Never again!
Is it because we as hobbyist tolerate this?? Turn them out of your car and tell them to clean it up. Geesch!
Usedtobedr.https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/4628187c-21f3-428e-bec7-429f8d9826c5
GuySoBored
11-27-17, 15:00
https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/4628187c-21f3-428e-bec7-429f8d9826c5She sent me a picture of herself in what appeared to be a run down home. That was enough for me to cease contact. Glad I made the right call!
Midwest Dude
12-02-17, 18:59
So since BP is dead as we knew it, what are some other sites to visit for decent reasonable action?
So since BP is dead as we knew it, what are some other sites to visit for decent reasonable action?I have a hunch most of the good action has gone underground. Information about regulars is being exchanged through informal channels. I've almost quit using BP altogether. Trusted referrals are superior to misleading on-line advertising which often leads to sub-optimal sessions and deceptive practices. Going UTR, the quality and consistency of my experiences has improved dramatically.
CrownTiger
12-13-17, 23:04
Once in a while. Should ask her if you can bring tampons. LOL.
This is a "thing" with chicks now. It's dumb.
CrownTiger
12-23-17, 20:24
Any has find soneone recently with a pissy worth more than $$ I ate some vanilla sky pussy last night from new provider and it gave me ENERGY.
CrownTiger
12-23-17, 20:59
Any has find soneone recently with a pussy worth more than $$ I ate some vanilla sky pussy last night from new provider and it gave me ENERGY.
Columbus72
01-22-18, 13:05
Yes there are those out there with a complete daddy fetish which are fun but we are talking normal 18-25 year old females. I'm not going to put the secret of my success out here but if you take your time, don't be a creep, and use the experience you have gained over your lifetime and you can be quite successful. I don't hit on everything, I get a some who view me once on my story and drop me but I have a whole bunch of others that don't. I follow the rule of "In a world full of Kaneyes, be a Frank. " Plus I sleep better at night since a former sugar baby who I had a relationship with outside of the sugar world explained it to me as "I get raped for cash. " Changed my whole perspective.I find her attitude contemptible. Unfortunately it seems to be a societal attitude. Sometimes I regret how much money I have spent in this hobby. I get robbed for sex. Poor me. Those sugar babies should feel bad for what they do to me. I would be so much better off if it weren't for them. Of course I don't actually view it that way. I understand that I made a choice to spend money for sex just like she made a choice to have sex for money. Society / feminism / (male protective instinct?) doesn't want women to accept agency for almost anything so they can take the victim role and its benefits. The way they try to rationalize and defend this reminds me of religious apologists.
Gentleman,
I have someone who I've seen for approx 2. 5 years. She was heavily into pills and other hard drugs, rehabbed and slipped back into some type of hard drugs recently. Every time she comes over she goes into the bathroom and does something while running the water. I've found pink crushed up substance on the bathroom counter recently where she used the bottom of the mouthwash bottle to crush it. I have a question about the residue in the picture I have attached as she brought a 31 yr old friend over tonight that's had solicitation arrests before in linden area and multiple paraphernalia arrests. Let me know if anyone knows the residue in the attached picture? It sounded like something was being smoked in the bathroom that left this residue, possibly crack? (This is JoeWeiners new profile by the way. I deleted my last profile due to a a crazy b $&ch.) Thanks!
Gentleman,
I have someone who I've seen for approx 2. 5 years. She was heavily into pills and other hard drugs, rehabbed and slipped back into some type of hard drugs recently. Every time she comes over she goes into the bathroom and does something while running the water. I've found pink crushed up substance on the bathroom counter recently where she used the bottom of the mouthwash bottle to crush it. I have a question about the residue in the picture I have attached as she brought a 31 yr old friend over tonight that's had solicitation arrests before in linden area and multiple paraphernalia arrests. Let me know if anyone knows the residue in the attached picture? It sounded like something was being smoked in the bathroom that left this residue, possibly crack? (This is JoeWeiners new profile by the way. I deleted my last profile due to a a crazy b $&ch.) Thanks!Not certain but they make a pink 10 mg opiate pain killer. If one thing deters me from an overnight it's a dead or OD hooked in my bathroom. Maybe talk to her and let her do her dope safely? I mean idk.
Not certain but they make a pink 10 mg opiate pain killer. If one thing deters me from an overnight it's a dead or OD hooked in my bathroom. Maybe talk to her and let her do her dope safely? I mean idk.You're right that I should be mostly concerned about an OD in my bathroom and having to explain WTH happened. I think the pink crushed substance I found a few weeks ago was oxy or definitely some type of pain pill. She brought a new 31 yr old over for me (a little older than I like but I was promised this one liked it dirty, LOL) and I looked the 31 yr olds name up and she's had 5-7 solicitation / paraphernalia arrests going back 6 years and 1 arrest for crack possession. I think that brownish liquid substance on my toilet might have been crack / meth as my bathroom kind of smelled like window cleaner afterwards. I'm not going to name any names yet as I'm still having fun with this one (I've had 3 3 somes in the last week) but it's sad to see her going down the rabbit hole very very quickly.
You're right that I should be mostly concerned about an OD in my bathroom and having to explain WTH happened. I think the pink crushed substance I found a few weeks ago was oxy or definitely some type of pain pill. She brought a new 31 yr old over for me (a little older than I like but I was promised this one liked it dirty, LOL) and I looked the 31 yr olds name up and she's had 5-7 solicitation / paraphernalia arrests going back 6 years and 1 arrest for crack possession. I think that brownish liquid substance on my toilet might have been crack / meth as my bathroom kind of smelled like window cleaner afterwards. I'm not going to name any names yet as I'm still having fun with this one (I've had 3 3 somes in the last week) but it's sad to see her going down the rabbit hole very very quickly.For ANY gentleman who engages in this P4 P, I recommend keeping Narcan / Naloxone on hand. With the opioid crisis and the fetanyl epidemic, you can't be too careful.
Gentleman,
I have someone who I've seen for approx 2. 5 years. She was heavily into pills and other hard drugs, rehabbed and slipped back into some type of hard drugs recently. Every time she comes over she goes into the bathroom and does something while running the water. I've found pink crushed up substance on the bathroom counter recently where she used the bottom of the mouthwash bottle to crush it. I have a question about the residue in the picture I have attached as she brought a 31 yr old friend over tonight that's had solicitation arrests before in linden area and multiple paraphernalia arrests. Let me know if anyone knows the residue in the attached picture? It sounded like something was being smoked in the bathroom that left this residue, possibly crack? (This is JoeWeiners new profile by the way. I deleted my last profile due to a a crazy b $&ch.) Thanks!Just from the picture, it looks like a red / pink tinged liquid. That would make me think injectable and they were blowing air out but shot a little liquid as well.
Just from the picture, it looks like a red / pink tinged liquid. That would make me think injectable and they were blowing air out but shot a little liquid as well.Now that you mention it I think I did hear them blowing pretty loudly as I tried to get up close to the door. They were running the shower water for 3 minutes or so as a cover. The 31 yr old (with solicitation and crack arrests) could've been injecting something. It could've been reddish too, looked kind of light tan to me.
Warning. Click at your own risk.
http://columbus.backpage.com/WomenSeekMen/567-241-9063/57692017
Dear lord.
Warning. Click at your own risk.
http://columbus.backpage.com/WomenSeekMen/567-241-9063/57692017
Warning. Click at your own risk. New link.
https://liveescortreviews.com/ad/columbus/567-241-9063/2/583759
A number of guys have asked me how to find UTR's. There is no manual, so it's mostly common sense and a bit of inside intel. The key is just to ask. If you see one girl, ask her if she has a friend. If you know she patronizes a house on the West side, ask her if she knows other girls who frequent the same house. Since they tend to covet their customers, I might remind them that I am not exclusive, but I'll pay them a referral service fee if they bring in a new cutie for me. Second, some UTR's are also former posters. I've had a UTR now for a number of years. She posted once or twice a long time ago. Since she's a longer posting, I consider her a UTR. There are a substantial number of girls who have accumulated enough reliable clientele, that they do not need to post anymore. Sometimes a former escort will consider returning but she doesnt want high volume or high visibility, so she may be open to your advances to meet up because she still needs the money. The third approach is to ask a girl if she will do a double. If she says yes, then you can directly test out another girl to see whether she is an attractive, quality performer, etc. Since the cost of a typical double is less than two times the cost of a solo, this approach is a fairly good investment, especially if you like doubles. Just be tactful; the original girl is not going to want the new girl to steal you away. The fourth method is Facebook and other social media. Many people have commented on the massive number of friends some of these girls have. While you have to be careful not to be a stalker, it is possible to find girls indirectly online. Whichever approach you opt for, please dont be creepy.
Guys are welcome to add info.
JohnConnorDays
02-11-18, 16:31
I found a mildly entertaining account that posts nothing but mugshots of girls & what they're being charged with. [Police Mugshots deleted by Admin]
EDITOR'S NOTE: This report was edited to remove the mugshots of persons who were arrested from the report.
Posting the mugshots of people who have been arrested is somewhat heartless and really just helping the police in their efforts to embarrass these people.
Since this website is all about assisting people in obtaining commercial sex services, we don't want to add to the problems of the unfortunate people who have been arrested by publishing their names and/or photographs.
Thanks!
Where do you guys go? And what does it cost?
Obviously anonymity is more important than price.
Feel free to PM. Thanks.
MongerGuy523
02-23-18, 10:46
Where do you guys go? And what does it cost?
Obviously anonymity is more important than price.
Feel free to PM. Thanks.Just go to your PCP. They don't care how you got it, but they will treat you fast if you test positive for anything.
https://liveescortreviews.com/ad/columbus/614-809-6173/1/596712
"Collage" girl.
JohnConnorDays
03-05-18, 15:30
Where do you guys go? And what does it cost?
Obviously anonymity is more important than price.
Feel free to PM. Thanks.I go to Out of the Closet on High St. That place really isn't my thing if you know what I mean but they are super discrete, it's free, and I get all my results but one in less than 30 minutes. The location is convenient for me too.
Traveler Two
03-08-18, 18:37
I was doing my taxes and couldn't help but think about this. Damn it would be nice to claim my two regulars as dependents. It really would be closer to how the real world works.
It's the fact and make sense!
I was doing my taxes and couldn't help but think about this. Damn it would be nice to claim my two regulars as dependents. It really would be closer to how the real world works.
BobDole614
03-09-18, 22:56
Possible 1st timer here, if anyone would be willing to give me some tips / what to say / do when contacting someone that would be appreciated. PM or post is fine.
Possible 1st timer here, if anyone would be willing to give me some tips / what to say / do when contacting someone that would be appreciated. PM or post is fine.There's lots posted on line. Google is your friend.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/m.wikihow.com/Be-an-Escort's-Favorite-Client%3 famp=1
The link doesn’t work, but you get the point.
Mr Blue 314
03-10-18, 15:15
I usually start with the greating of the day. I like text over talking.
My name is? I noticed your add or blue (if someone gave you a referal).
You look very sexy, pretty, beautiful (your words). I would love to hang out soon. I hope you are having a great day or night. Text me when you get a chance.
When she returns your text then you can find out when she is available. If you don't already know the donation then you can ask.
At this point (I'm frugal) I say gee I'm sorry that is out of my price range. If it is out of your range. 9 times out of 10 they will text back " how much you working with baby"?
This is where you give her your price. Many mongers will knock me but I usually stay in the 60 to 80 range. This is your choice. I never do quick visits. I usually want 45 to an hour visit. Most time I get 60 to 90 minutes.
When you come to an agreement, treat her like a lady not a ***** I know some will knock me here. I usually ask when I'm close (text) would you like a soda or coffee. Don't get sucked in an get her too much (they will take advantage.
Make sure your showered, shaven and brush your teeth or mouthwash and or gum. If smoking is a problem politely request she not smoke prior to your arrival. I smoke so it isn't a problem.
When I arrive I offer them a smoke to relax and get to know each other for a few. Never pay upfront. Kind of let her take the lead. Never talk about sex acts while texting or talking on the phone. Let her get naked first or at least partially before you.
Do what you came to do get dressed, pay and out the door you go. If she took good care of me maybe a small tip. After I leave if I even think I may want to visit again, send a text.
I usually say " I wanted to say thank you for spending time with me today. You are so sexy. I usually give them a positive. You hair is so sexy. I really liked your outfit. I would love to hang out again. If she is really good, I say " I would love to make you a regular". That's it now you have your first conquest down and a possible regular. After you build a little trust, I say do you have any friends that play. Setting up for a duo or a single with her friend (s). I offer them a 20.00 for a referal or maybe some take out dinner.
If she is really good I may take them for dinner or lunch after. Start cheap (Mcdonalds) and move up with your places. Don't fall in love, treat her nice and you get special pricing and extra sexual menu items.
Let me know if you have any other questions.
Possible 1st timer here, if anyone would be willing to give me some tips / what to say / do when contacting someone that would be appreciated. PM or post is fine.
Possible 1st timer here, if anyone would be willing to give me some tips / what to say / do when contacting someone that would be appreciated. PM or post is fine.Check post 16686 in the cbus backpage section here. Also, find a sure thing, pick a well reviewed girl with VERY few if any bad reviews.
P.S. Wear a cover, some of the most and best reviewed girls will go raw. No matter how tempting, don't do it. A BBBJ is one thing, it's very difficult to get something untreatable via a BJ, but past that don't be silly, cover your Willy.
Sir LanceLicksalot
03-10-18, 21:07
Labs all over. Okay costs. I do it a couple of times a year.
If you have symptoms see you PCP, trust he has heard it all and won't judge. And will usually prescribe meds if the tests come back positive.
Where do you guys go? And what does it cost?
Obviously anonymity is more important than price.
Feel free to PM. Thanks.
Viking2017
03-10-18, 21:57
I usually start with the greating of the day. I like text over talking.
My name is? I noticed your add or blue (if someone gave you a referal).
You look very sexy, pretty, beautiful (your words). I would love to hang out soon. I hope you are having a great day or night. Text me when you get a chance.
When she returns your text then you can find out when she is available. If you don't already know the donation then you can ask.
At this point (I'm frugal) I say gee I'm sorry that is out of my price range. If it is out of your range. 9 times out of 10 they will text back " how much you working with baby"?
This is where you give her your price. Many mongers will knock me but I usually stay in the 60 to 80 range. This is your choice. I never do quick visits. I usually want 45 to an hour visit. Most time I get 60 to 90 minutes.
When you come to an agreement, treat her like a lady not a ***** I know some will knock me here. I usually ask when I'm close (text) would you like a soda or coffee. Don't get sucked in an get her too much (they will take advantage.
Make sure your showered, shaven and brush your teeth or mouthwash and or gum. If smoking is a problem politely request she not smoke prior to your arrival. I smoke so it isn't a problem.
When I arrive I offer them a smoke to relax and get to know each other for a few. Never pay upfront. Kind of let her take the lead. Never talk about sex acts while texting or talking on the phone. Let her get naked first or at least partially before you.
Do what you came to do get dressed, pay and out the door you go. If she took good care of me maybe a small tip. After I leave if I even think I may want to visit again, send a text.
I usually say " I wanted to say thank you for spending time with me today. You are so sexy. I usually give them a positive. You hair is so sexy. I really liked your outfit. I would love to hang out again. If she is really good, I say " I would love to make you a regular". That's it now you have your first conquest down and a possible regular. After you build a little trust, I say do you have any friends that play. Setting up for a duo or a single with her friend (s). I offer them a 20.00 for a referal or maybe some take out dinner.
If she is really good I may take them for dinner or lunch after. Start cheap (Mcdonalds) and move up with your places. Don't fall in love, treat her nice and you get special pricing and extra sexual menu items.
Let me know if you have any other questions.Well spoken sir!
Mr Blue 314
03-11-18, 01:48
Taken a bit of time for me to perfect this. It works. Actually the regular ladies have spent the night on my birthday several times for what a lot of mongers pay for an hour or so.
I've also had three ladies and me on my birthday this year from like 12pm till around 3 or 4 in the morning... Now that was a night to remember. That was around 3 bills and some pizza and soda...
Got a nice hot tub suite. 2 of the 3 ladies had never been to a high end motel. Actually took a special provider to kings island. That was a good ass time too.
I don't want to mention names but I had two well over 5 hour dates (this weekend) for a ridiculous price. Just make them feel safe treat them like a lady and most (no all) give me no time limit dates.
Well spoken sir!
BobDole614
03-11-18, 02:40
I usually start with the greating of the day. I like text over talking.
My name is? I noticed your add or blue (if someone gave you a referal).
You look very sexy, pretty, beautiful (your words). I would love to hang out soon. I hope you are having a great day or night. Text me when you get a chance.
When she returns your text then you can find out when she is available. If you don't already know the donation then you can ask.
At this point (I'm frugal) I say gee I'm sorry that is out of my price range. If it is out of your range. 9 times out of 10 they will text back " how much you working with baby"?
This is where you give her your price. Many mongers will knock me but I usually stay in the 60 to 80 range. This is your choice. I never do quick visits. I usually want 45 to an hour visit. Most time I get 60 to 90 minutes.
When you come to an agreement, treat her like a lady not a ***** I know some will knock me here. I usually ask when I'm close (text) would you like a soda or coffee. Don't get sucked in an get her too much (they will take advantage.
Make sure your showered, shaven and brush your teeth or mouthwash and or gum. If smoking is a problem politely request she not smoke prior to your arrival. I smoke so it isn't a problem.
When I arrive I offer them a smoke to relax and get to know each other for a few. Never pay upfront. Kind of let her take the lead. Never talk about sex acts while texting or talking on the phone. Let her get naked first or at least partially before you.
Do what you came to do get dressed, pay and out the door you go. If she took good care of me maybe a small tip. After I leave if I even think I may want to visit again, send a text.
I usually say " I wanted to say thank you for spending time with me today. You are so sexy. I usually give them a positive. You hair is so sexy. I really liked your outfit. I would love to hang out again. If she is really good, I say " I would love to make you a regular". That's it now you have your first conquest down and a possible regular. After you build a little trust, I say do you have any friends that play. Setting up for a duo or a single with her friend (s). I offer them a 20.00 for a referal or maybe some take out dinner.
If she is really good I may take them for dinner or lunch after. Start cheap (Mcdonalds) and move up with your places. Don't fall in love, treat her nice and you get special pricing and extra sexual menu items.
Let me know if you have any other questions.Thank you! And if anything comes to mind I'll ask you.
Nice! We should have a monger union and keep the demage at. 6-. 8 per hr.
Well spoken sir!
Mr Blue 314
03-11-18, 12:11
Your welcome my friend. Maybe some other guys can chime in here. I have changed this up over the years. I have discussed this with several members (via Pm).
I should give credit to Folk Art, the retired footroger, Ghost, bowtie, Country Boy just to name a few. I'm sure I forgot someone.
I believe in pay it forward. Many other retired guys helped me when I was new. See some girls get some experience make some monger friends. All I ask is you pay it forward some day. It keeps the board going.
Thank you! And if anything comes to mind I'll ask you.
ColumbusBigGuy
03-13-18, 10:43
I will be meeting up with someone I met online, she is not an escort. But I'm looking for a decent cheap hotel in the Grove City area or South Columbus. Some place that may allow you to pay with cash but decent enough not to be a mess. Or any other discreet places that you have used in the past. If I find one like that, I may start having outcalls come to me instead of me going to some of these places when I choose to monger. Not sure if it is ok to post the hotel names here (against forum rules? So if you want to send a pm to me, thst is ok as well. Not here to get anyone into trouble or to be flagged by our awesome and gracious administrator (yea, I know, sycking up gets you no where). Haha. Thank you.
Hotel names ok, room numbers no.
A2
It looks like we may need a new "bedpage" thread soon? LOL.
http://columbus.bedpage.com/search?dev=1&location=columbus&srhkeyword=&srhcategory=femaleescorts
At least this one added some pics that match her reviews.
Viking2017
03-17-18, 18:28
It looks like we may need a new "bedpage" thread soon? LOL.
http://columbus.bedpage.com/search?dev=1&location=columbus&srhkeyword=&srhcategory=femaleescortsI doubt it. Nothing but email fishing going on.
Be nice if it grew into something, but I certainly wouldn't waste any time on it with the advertisers it has.
Midwest Dude
03-19-18, 07:48
After reading the last few posts in the BP forum, remember: if she looks too good to be true, she probably is. I've been trolling on BP for a while and I can count on one hand how many chick were actually hot. Plus, if the pic quality is too good, it's probably a scam.
treat her nice and you get special pricing and extra sexual menu items.
This is so true. I can't count the number of times that a second date was way better. As in above and beyond, after I've tipped, fed, and complimented a girl. We need to remember that though (generally) they have made the choice to be in the position they are in, it's still a rough way to go about a daily life sometimes. One time in particular stands out. Got a call from a semi-regular who needed fast cash. I'd been working all day, back was hurting, so I just drove to her and gave her what she needed, declining a date just then. To this day I could call her and get anything. ANYTHING I wanted from the menu. Tossing out. 4 to me is nothing compared to having a GFE SW that'll let loose and go the extra mile repeatedly.
DaveCoffee2018
04-07-18, 10:36
Newbie here, trying to purchase a burner phone. I'm not sure how I go about buying one.
Can I just walk into Walmart and buy a phone and plan with cash?
I name this thread (Burner Phone Tips Thread) because I'm sure others can share there tip's on buying a hobby phone. Feel free to pm me if you don't want to share in this thread.
It always kills me when mongers report that a girl on a BP type site is not on dope or doesn't show signs of addiction. And especially kills me when they say it about a SW. LOL LOL. Really? WTF you think she is doing this for? Cause she enjoys it? LOL LOL. It's a means to an end just like it is for us. Keep it real ya'all. Geez. Especially you White Knights. These girls are manipulative and they lie, and they are damn good at it. They can see a sucker a mile away, and the next thing you know, you are supporting her habit, only she is telling you it is for food for her "babies" or pull ups, or diapers, or what ever the hell she can make up. It's about DOPE. Not all girls look high. Thats because they may be sick from dope and need to get high. They hide it, cause most are ashamed of it. Look close and you will see the signs. Not all of them shoot up either. Some smoke heroin. Some just smoke crack or meth. Some do pills. Some shoot in areas you can't see.
So don't be fooled, just because you are trying to justify something to yourself. Its all good. They get high, we get off. Be careful out there. Especially on the west side. Its not safe for those who are not street wise. Even then its not.
DerekDomino
07-16-18, 12:05
Newbie here, trying to purchase a burner phone. I'm not sure how I go about buying one.
Can I just walk into Walmart and buy a phone and plan with cash?
I name this thread (Burner Phone Tips Thread) because I'm sure others can share there tip's on buying a hobby phone. Feel free to pm me if you don't want to share in this thread.Consider a VoIP app like TextFree. You can use the minimum number of minutes, then delete and download again for a new number any time you want. If you don't like carrying two phones or receiving inbound calls, this is a cheap and easy solution. Have used it for years.
Midwest Dude
07-22-18, 17:32
You guys on Reddit? If so, look up the are / sexworkers sub. The level of GPS and whiteknighting is off the chain!
You can buy a burner with cash and pay cash for the monthly card for your minutes.
The VoIP app is a great idea. You have to be diligent about deleting it. Make sure you don't have any other phones or tablets linked to your main phone if you use the app. You don't want it downloading to those devices.
Always remember to go through your regular phone and turn off all the location services off. Once you turn them all off, look through your phone again. IPhones are sneaky and have the location based ads and significant locations inside. I crapped myself when I got the iPhone with that feature and saw it was automatically turned on. It showed a nice history of hotel visits off 23/270 and Polaris. Always turn off location services when you are doing anything and make sure you don't have your phone on a family or "find my friends" setting.
Get a Faraday Bag. You can get a decent one on Amazon for under $25. Put your main phone in it and your burner when you are doing anything you don't want to be caught doing.
Off the top of my head regarding burners.
Keep it off and in a Faraday Bag outside of your home.
Resist the urge to use it for anything other than setting up meetings and confirmation.
If you can, take the battery out of the damn thing when you aren't using it.
Go through and make sure every "notification" setting is off and the sound is off for every notification.
Have the volume off and muted for every setting possible. That's for texts, calls, and all apps. You don't want an unfamiliar ping / ring going off.
You can find cheaper Apple and Samsung burners that may look like your current phone. Pay a little extra to try to match your brand and case. It may not be exact, but chances are if you screw up and your s. O. Sees it, she may not even notice it. It will cost you more to do it, but it's less than the price of losing your marriage and reputation.
Download Kik, Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, and Tumbler on your burner. Register fake accounts with a fake e-mail and a disposable number (Google Voice or VoIP number). Do not use your real number or even your burner number. When you make fake social media accounts you can then go to "find contact" of your various lady friends and their actual social media pages. This, along with reverse image searching, can be very helpful.
Make sure all of those apps have everything turned off inside of them.
Know how to get the SIM card out of it quickly. If you get nailed with it, swallow the thing if you have to.
I'm probably forgetting some things, but that's a starter. I'm sure more will offer some thoughts of their own. If I'm off base on some things, please let me know. I'm always looking for ways to stay safe.
Newbie here, trying to purchase a burner phone. I'm not sure how I go about buying one.
Can I just walk into Walmart and buy a phone and plan with cash?
I name this thread (Burner Phone Tips Thread) because I'm sure others can share there tip's on buying a hobby phone. Feel free to pm me if you don't want to share in this thread.
You guys on Reddit? If so, look up the are / sexworkers sub. The level of GPS and whiteknighting is off the chain!Suckers born everyday. Guys! She is not in love with you! LOL.
WatchUrSix
07-22-18, 23:43
Hey mongers. I will be in and around Chilli for the next few weeks. Any info on the racetrack? Start line etc. ?
Hey mongers. I will be in and around Chilli for the next few weeks. Any info on the racetrack? Start line etc. ?There is a separate Chillicothe forum on this board.
TheDaytimer
07-23-18, 17:49
You can buy a burner with cash and pay cash for the monthly card for your minutes.
The VoIP app is a great idea. You have to be diligent about deleting it. Make sure you don't have any other phones or tablets linked to your main phone if you use the app. You don't want it downloading to those devices.
Always remember to go through your regular phone and turn off all the location services off. Once you turn them all off, look through your phone again. IPhones are sneaky and have the location based ads and significant locations inside. I crapped myself when I got the iPhone with that feature and saw it was automatically turned on. It showed a nice history of hotel visits off 23/270 and Polaris. Always turn off location services when you are doing anything and make sure you don't have your phone on a family or "find my friends" setting.
Get a Faraday Bag. You can get a decent one on Amazon for under $25. Put your main phone in it and your burner when you are doing anything you don't want to be caught doing.
Off the top of my head regarding burners.
Keep it off and in a Faraday Bag outside of your home.
Resist the urge to use it for anything other than setting up meetings and confirmation.
If you can, take the battery out of the damn thing when you aren't using it.
Go through and make sure every "notification" setting is off and the sound is off for every notification.
Have the volume off and muted for every setting possible. That's for texts, calls, and all apps. You don't want an unfamiliar ping / ring going off.
You can find cheaper Apple and Samsung burners that may look like your current phone. Pay a little extra to try to match your brand and case. It may not be exact, but chances are if you screw up and your s. O. Sees it, she may not even notice it. It will cost you more to do it, but it's less than the price of losing your marriage and reputation.
Download Kik, Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, and Tumbler on your burner. Register fake accounts with a fake e-mail and a disposable number (Google Voice or VoIP number). Do not use your real number or even your burner number. When you make fake social media accounts you can then go to "find contact" of your various lady friends and their actual social media pages. This, along with reverse image searching, can be very helpful.
Make sure all of those apps have everything turned off inside of them.
Know how to get the SIM card out of it quickly. If you get nailed with it, swallow the thing if you have to.
I'm probably forgetting some things, but that's a starter. I'm sure more will offer some thoughts of their own. If I'm off base on some things, please let me know. I'm always looking for ways to stay safe.If you have HOBBY FACEBOOK account (including Messenger) on your burner NEVER EVER:
o- Access your Personal Facebook account on that phone.
o- Have your personal email contacts on that phone.
o- Use your real photo for the FB profile.
Regardless of what they say about privacy, FB cross references all contacts between FB accounts and you EMAIL. If you don't believe me, try it and you will find "suggested contacts" on your hobby FB account from the other two places. ALSO. All of your contacts who have FB accounts will see YOUR PHOTO from the hobby FB account on their "suggested contacts" (aka People you may know).
If you have HOBBY FACEBOOK account (including Messenger) on your burner NEVER EVER:
o- Access your Personal Facebook account on that phone.
o- Have your personal email contacts on that phone.
o- Use your real photo for the FB profile.
Regardless of what they say about privacy, FB cross references all contacts between FB accounts and you EMAIL. If you don't believe me, try it and you will find "suggested contacts" on your hobby FB account from the other two places. ALSO. All of your contacts who have FB accounts will see YOUR PHOTO from the hobby FB account on their "suggested contacts" (aka People you may know).He's right. I had a professional FB and my personal. FB cross referenced the two accounts phone numbers or whatnot and started recommending friends from the two account to me, not only that I started getting friend requests from my Friends account to my professional account and vise versa.
I doubt it. Nothing but email fishing going on.
Be nice if it grew into something, but I certainly wouldn't waste any time on it with the advertisers it has.Yeah I just checked that site out not too long ago and that still seems to be the case. We need a new backpage LOL. I have told many girls over and over again about the USASG classifieds to advertise on this site but they never listen.
I was reading the post about using burner phones. This has me thinking. How do most of you access this site? With the current political whinds taking down sites like back page. Your Internet data can now be tracked and sold plus net neutrality disappearing.
Have any of you need useing vpns or tor to start accessing sites like this or escort services / review sites?
At least this one added some pics that match her reviews.At the risk of sounding stupid, what are her reviews and how do the pics match them?
At the risk of sounding stupid, what are her reviews and how do the pics match them?She's really a SW'er with internet access, she's been arrested plenty of times on the stroll. In the beginning she split time and had a nice condo to work out of. She has had some lackluster reviews and the pics he posted were more accurate to what she really looks like, actually the ones he posted are still GOOD pictures of her. The life has not been good to her.
She's really a SW'er with internet access, she's been arrested plenty of times on the stroll. In the beginning she split time and had a nice condo to work out of. She has had some lackluster reviews and the pics he posted were more accurate to what she really looks like, actually the ones he posted are still GOOD pictures of her. The life has not been good to her.Well I visited her once. She pushed pretty hard to get me to let her friend join, but her friend wasn't my type. I went to her I call off of Hilliard Rome. It was pretty nice and she offered a prostate massage that was pretty good. She is definitely not GFE material but she did get the job done.
DerekDomino
08-27-18, 13:15
I was reading the post about using burner phones. This has me thinking. How do most of you access this site? With the current political whinds taking down sites like back page. Your Internet data can now be tracked and sold plus net neutrality disappearing.
Have any of you need useing vpns or tor to start accessing sites like this or escort services / review sites?Consider using the Brave browser. It's built on the same code a Chrome for compatibility, but is more privacy focused. You can open up a "private tab" which abandons all history when it's closed. You can also easily set those tabs to use Tor to bounce your data in a manner that is effectively untraceable.
By the way, in case anyone is still uncertain, she is alive. I no longer contact her because we seem to have compatibility issues. LOL. The reason she's gone deep UTR is because she has a sugar daddy / BF / financee. No doubt he was responsible for the rumors of her passing, to discourage other men from persisting in contacting her. We'll see how long it lasts. It's very challenging to maintain a sustainable relationship with a woman with a Habit.
She was one of the cuter girls on the loop 10 years ago. Body was very nice. I ran into her a couple of weeks back at a fast food place on the west side. She didn't recognize me, but I did her. Damn, Spin is right on, she easily looked in her 50's or older. Double damn.
She's really a SW'er with internet access, she's been arrested plenty of times on the stroll. In the beginning she split time and had a nice condo to work out of. She has had some lackluster reviews and the pics he posted were more accurate to what she really looks like, actually the ones he posted are still GOOD pictures of her. The life has not been good to her.
She was one of the cuter girls on the loop 10 years ago. Body was very nice. I ran into her a couple of weeks back at a fast food place on the west side. She didn't recognize me, but I did her. Damn, Spin is right on, she easily looked in her 50's or older. Double damn.Walking Sullivant, I actually had to drive around the block to confirm it was her. Rough is a serious understatement, I saw her once at that Condo / Apartment in the Galloway area maybe 6 years ago. Saying the life has been rough on her is being VERY nice, the pictures she's using now on LER are actually intentional deception IMHO. If I went to see her and she opened the door in her present state, I would leave.
I have an old UTR friend that is looking for some help. Would you like to try a tag team on her. Late twenties ebony. 5' 6 weight proportional great legs and ass.
Zococme889
08-28-18, 11:38
She was one of the cuter girls on the loop 10 years ago. Body was very nice. I ran into her a couple of weeks back at a fast food place on the west side. She didn't recognize me, but I did her. Damn, Spin is right on, she easily looked in her 50's or older. Double damn.I highly do not recommend. Was very rushed, non GFE, and definitely NOT a good time. Not like her pic's.
However I do recommend Ashley as an alternative who also is very petite and skinny who was mentioned a few posts below.
Zococme889
08-28-18, 11:40
I highly do not recommend. Was very rushed, non GFE, and definitely NOT a good time. Not like her pic's.
However I do recommend Ashley as an alternative who also is very petite and skinny who was mentioned a few posts below.Sorry she was recently reviewed by Otis under Escorts.
Here's her llink:
http://columbus.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/sexy-petite-blonde-ready-to-in/273605906017
TipsTipsTips
08-28-18, 21:22
Yo saw this and looks like a great pickup for incalls where you just want to bring the donation and nothing else https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000I66JEM/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=cheddar0e-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B000I66JEM&linkId=7d23b5b07f0ceab992c7553e67338dc5.
Midwest Dude
09-05-18, 12:50
Seen one recently of Mariah. She looks terrible.
Seen one recently of Mariah. She looks terrible.She has been on the downward spiral for a while now. Walking Wicklow and Sully can be hard.
Wow, didn't recognize her at all. It's sad. I thought she was working and or staying with Jenny (the blond out west)? Also saw Caitlyn in the news. Didn't look to see if it was for any length of time.
She has been on the downward spiral for a while now. Walking Wicklow and Sully can be hard.
Wow, didn't recognize her at all. It's sad. I thought she was working and or staying with Jenny (the blond out west)? Also saw Caitlyn in the news. Didn't look to see if it was for any length of time.If I read the records correctly, it will be another week, at least, before Caitlyn can be seen. And I would venture a guess that it will be many weeks until she is back on the westside.
Damn, a lot of the good ones took a vacation. Caitlyn, Korrinda, Nay, and Mariah just to mention a few.
If I read the records correctly, it will be another week, at least, before Caitlyn can be seen. And I would venture a guess that it will be many weeks until she is back on the westside.
Damn, a lot of the good ones took a vacation. Caitlyn, Korrinda, Nay, and Mariah just to mention a few.From what I was told, you should be able to find Korrinda on the block today or tonight.
Sorry she was recently reviewed by Otis under Escorts.
Here's her llink:
http://columbus.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/sexy-petite-blonde-ready-to-in/273605906017Too many girls named Ashley. This one seems to have disappeared. If you have any info / intel, I would appreciate a PM. Thanks.
I have an old UTR friend that is looking for some help. Would you like to try a tag team on her. Late twenties ebony. 5' 6 weight proportional great legs and ass.Inbox me. Your inbox is at capacity.
ItsCheeseWhiz
11-05-18, 00:50
Anyone know a good place to score used condoms? My wife loves the feel of them and stranger's cum in them, but don't know a great way to go about getting some for her. Any advice would be welcome.
Sir LanceLicksalot
11-05-18, 02:19
Tell her you found a place to buy them, then see a hooker and bring your latex encased splooge home to her. Unless she drinks it out the Jimmy and recognizes your "taste" you both win. She gets the used, filled condom and you get laid by a piece of strange.
Anyone know a good place to score used condoms? My wife loves the feel of them and stranger's cum in them, but don't know a great way to go about getting some for her. Any advice would be welcome.
Anyone know a good place to score used condoms? My wife loves the feel of them and stranger's cum in them, but don't know a great way to go about getting some for her. Any advice would be welcome.Is this a joke? Or is your wife weird? So she wants you to go find used condoms?
Decided to check out Sully. I'm an AMP and independant kinda guy but read the boards and wanted to check it out in the mid morning and daylight. It was about 10:30/11. Only saw a few out and wasn't planning to scoop anyway. Just getting a feel. The scoops happen fast for sure! LOL.
Any tips on street boundaries. How far is too far E / W, and / S, etc. What are the active streets?
Thanks!
Dave.
Is this a joke? Or is your wife weird? So she wants you to go find used condoms?Just because I'm sick like that, I'm going to assume his wife is weird AF and likes to suck the baby batter of strangers used rubbers, and even better, has her husband scooping them up from the trash. So, go to Princeton or Pineapple with her and just walk around collecting them.
Member #6308
11-06-18, 16:41
We should ever need it, where is a clinic that offers completely anonymous treatment of STDs? Would not want to involve insurance provider.
Is this a joke? Or is your wife weird? So she wants you to go find used condoms?There was a post a couple of weeks ago on the Toledo forum about this. The provider asked the client if he'd mind if she saved the used, full condom because she had clients who wanted them. This is wrong and sick in so many ways!
BuckeyeFanatic
11-06-18, 22:44
There was a post a couple of weeks ago on the Toledo forum about this. The provider asked the client if he'd mind if she saved the used, full condom because she had clients who wanted them. This is wrong and sick in so many ways!Ehhh, I mean, I find it weird, and I would never do it, but hey a kink is a kink, and if it's what someone enjoys, then I say they should let their freak flag fly. Doesn't hurt me any.
Anyone know a good place to score used condoms? My wife loves the feel of them and stranger's cum in them, but don't know a great way to go about getting some for her. Any advice would be welcome.I believe it. My SO was in the business for a number of years, and some of the stories she has related to me are, shall we say, interesting. Especially from her tenures in Japan and the USA's Bible Belt. This one is no more unusual than many.
HornySenior
11-07-18, 09:10
I believe it. My SO was in the business for a number of years, and some of the stories she has related to me are, shall we say, interesting. Especially from her tenures in Japan and the USA's Bible Belt. This one is no more unusual than many.To each his own but personally I would be worried about my DNA.
Midwest Dude
11-11-18, 20:14
The pool of ladies sucks. It usually wouldn't be a big deal, but my normal go-to's are in jail / prison or trying to "get clean". Makes me yearn for the good ol days, even though I know those aren't coming back.
The pool of ladies sucks. It usually wouldn't be a big deal, but my normal go-to's are in jail / prison or trying to "get clean". Makes me yearn for the good ol days, even though I know those aren't coming back.I'm not sure how long you've been hobbying, but if it has been a long time please forgive my needless history. In the past, this hobby has gone in cycles and there were always hot young providers out there. When I first started, it was strip clubs. There were a decent number of young hotties and you could pick the one you liked, go in a private room and the girl would give you a menu. Maybe $. 5 for a BBBJ, $. 75 for FS plus the price of the private room. The city closed them all and outlawed private rooms. Soon enough it was the newspaper and those classified ads for incall places. Most had a few really good, 7 level ladies, scattered in there were few rip-offs like the ones on Sinclair Rd. Then it was ads in the papers for independent ladies. Hit and miss but I met a number of good providers. Then websites like, TBD, ****, Ohio spice and a few agencies. They got shut down and sites like backpage and TER took over until recently. There were always number of good choices out there. I think we are going through yet another change cycle. I bet they are out there and hobbyists are finding them. It will take a little time and most of us will figure it out. For now we just need to work on that.
Cincy / Dayton guy here going to be in Columbus Monday night, Looking for someone to spend some time with, Prefer a lady around 35 to 50. Looking for recommendations.
Midgetbowler
11-16-18, 19:53
Hey guys,
I have the opportunity to take my first hobby filled trip. Normally when I travel its for business or with family so the opportunity to hobby is practically nil. Do you guys have any recommendations on where I should go? My goal is to find women that I cannot find here. The only recommendation I have been given so far is Aruba. I was told they have Venezuelan, columbian, and some decent locals. In terms of language I only speak English and know that can be a barrier at times. Any help would be appreciated. Happy hunting guys.
BuckeyeFanatic
11-16-18, 20:05
Hey guys,
I have the opportunity to take my first hobby filled trip. Normally when I travel its for business or with family so the opportunity to hobby is practically nil. Do you guys have any recommendations on where I should go? My goal is to find women that I cannot find here. The only recommendation I have been given so far is Aruba. I was told they have Venezuelan, columbian, and some decent locals. In terms of language I only speak English and know that can be a barrier at times. Any help would be appreciated. Happy hunting guys.Tijuana or a German FKK Club.
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