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OliverTwist501
09-05-19, 15:39
Another that advertizes at Dees is Sunny. Has done so for the past couple of months. AA with DD assets and offers FS (or so the ad claims). Anyone indulged or is this another add to BackToTheWall's list?

http://holland.skipthegames.com/massage/exotic/sunny-is-in/398949710985

Comrad
09-05-19, 19:51
I Saw Becky today at her new place in Holland. It is a nice set up and has much potential, she has great ideas. I have reviewed her several times in the GR forum. I haven't read the reviews but she gave me a rundown on screwing up a few appointments but it sounds like that is good. As I have stated in the GR forum, she is very pretty and I have seen her enough now that we have a chemistry and she knows what I like. You can read my GR reviews or PM me for details. She has been busy and getting organized from the move. My only concern is that if she stays this busy it will limit my appointments as I hate stacked appointments and she knows that.

Vespa315
09-05-19, 22:24
Another that advertizes at Dees is Sunny. Has done so for the past couple of months. AA with DD assets and offers FS (or so the ad claims). Anyone indulged or is this another add to BackToTheWall's list?

http://holland.skipthegames.com/massage/exotic/sunny-is-in/398949710985I have seen Sunny a couple of times. Gives a great massage, does not rush lots of teasing before the flip. She has a good menu and is reasonable. She is also very pleasant to talk with.

LandShark67
09-09-19, 14:28
I saw Sunny 2 weeks ago and had a great time! Little heavier than I like but everything seemed firm. Everything is on the menu that's confirmed. She does not rush and is very sweet. For some reason she said we had a good energy together and put my hand down south to feel the wetness.

$60 plus $100 for the hour. All nude body slide, BJ and I went down on her and made gave her a couple happy endings. She didn't have any condoms and I was fine with her sliding that wet pussy over the top of my hard place back and forth till I had my happy ending. Accidentally popped inside once or twice.

Overall I would recommend.

http://holland.skipthegames.com/massage/exotic/sunny-is-in/398949710985

Benz1
10-09-19, 21:52
I Saw Becky today at her new place in Holland. It is a nice set up and has much potential, she has great ideas. I have reviewed her several times in the GR forum. I haven't read the reviews but she gave me a rundown on screwing up a few appointments but it sounds like that is good. As I have stated in the GR forum, she is very pretty and I have seen her enough now that we have a chemistry and she knows what I like. You can read my GR reviews or PM me for details. She has been busy and getting organized from the move. My only concern is that if she stays this busy it will limit my appointments as I hate stacked appointments and she knows that.Becky informed me she's moving back to Grand Rapids. Just a few more days in Holland.

Catch her while you can.

OliverTwist501
10-11-19, 20:47
Did Sunny depart Momma Dees? Looks like her footprint has been scrubbed from STG. Also, anyone see Cambodian Doll there?

DirkDiver
10-15-19, 14:06
Did Sunny depart Momma Dees? Looks like her footprint has been scrubbed from STG. Also, anyone see Cambodian Doll there?Sunny and Kat and maybe another girl are opening their own spot in her I think their last day at mama is Friday.

StevesMilin
10-16-19, 16:22
Sunny and Kat and maybe another girl are opening their own spot in her I think their last day at mama is Friday.Please connect me when they are set up. I've been shy of going to Mama Dee's because of the location.

Thanks.

SS.

AssMann45
10-21-19, 18:20
Sunny and Kat and maybe another girl are opening their own spot in her I think their last day at mama is Friday.Hey, looks like she is actively posting again. Happy hunting!

Benz1
10-22-19, 15:54
Becky informed me she's moving back to Grand Rapids. Just a few more days in Holland.

Catch her while you can.Becky has already moved to Grand Rapids but she is visiting Holland today.

MrLimpBiscuit
10-23-19, 08:49
https://holland.skipthegames.com/massage/exotic/cum-relax-with-kat/441916907418

Seems that the "own" place never transpired, will not pay a friggin door fee, geeeezo peets.

WanToBe
10-31-19, 14:46
Hey, looks like she is actively posting again. Happy hunting!Want to follow kat if she moves let me know.

WanToBe
10-31-19, 14:47
Did Sunny depart Momma Dees? Looks like her footprint has been scrubbed from STG. Also, anyone see Cambodian Doll there?I seen her for a hr she is worth every dollar.

Meijerslp
11-01-19, 20:44
Want to follow kat if she moves let me know.I called to set something up and they said she no longer works there. No sure if it's true or not. Tried the number on stg and got no response.

WanToBe
11-05-19, 10:21
Went to mama dees and had a session with Cambodian doll she is pretty nice big breasts and nice down bellow spent an hour with her and $80 tip well worth it had a wonderful time daty.

OliverTwist501
11-05-19, 11:09
Both seem to be back at Momma Dees [temporarily?]. Kat advertised yesterday on STG and Sunny today.

TomCfnm
11-05-19, 14:30
Went to Lee's Massage. This was my third time; each time I ask for May. What I like about May is that she doesn't wait till the end for the flip. She flips you about 10 min in for a 30 or 60 min. Then I enjoy the massage for the rest of the time fully relaxed.

Spartan191
11-05-19, 17:02
Went to Lee's Massage. This was my third time; each time I ask for May. What I like about May is that she doesn't wait till the end for the flip. She flips you about 10 min in for a 30 or 60 min. Then I enjoy the massage for the rest of the time fully relaxed.I was in that strip mall today and thought it was time to stop by Lee's.

What were the damages?

TomCfnm
11-06-19, 09:13
I was in that strip mall today and thought it was time to stop by Lee's.

What were the damages?Yesterday I did a 30 min. $40. I tipped 40. She did ask for more; but I told her I wouldn't be able to come in for quite awhile if I started doing more. She said "You come in, it fine".

WaginTail
11-15-19, 16:14
After seeing a few favorable reports about Momma Dees in Holland, decided to give them another chance. I asked to see Sunny and while she normally sees clients that make appointments, it was my good luck that she was available. Massage quality was "just ok" (as the commercial says), but that was not the reason for my visit. After the flip she asked me what I wanted and I asked for a BBBJ. She said she appreciated my honesty and asked what I was willing to pay for that. I offered $, which she agreed to and off came her clothes and welcomed roaming. Got what I requested with the bonus of CIM. She is a sweet girl but BBW if that is not your thing.

JoeHolland
12-22-19, 12:03
I just checked out the Momma Dee website and found some new faces in the staff page. I have to admit some caught my interest, anyone been there lately and willing to report? Thanks.

Snowbird34
12-22-19, 16:27
How about this one? The 1st few post said no FS, but then she dropped that from add? Anyone check her out?

http://holland.skipthegames.com/massage/caucasian_w/new-to-area/286539760479

SParty123
12-24-19, 14:52
I just checked out the Momma Dee website and found some new faces in the staff page. I have to admit some caught my interest, anyone been there lately and willing to report? Thanks.I am thinking about visiting Mamma Dee's for the first time. Can someone tell me what to expect when I walk in? Any tips so that I don't look like a total rookie would be appreciated.

New789
12-24-19, 15:24
Anyone tried? Haven't dared try momma dees yet.

http://holland.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/kaylee/748821212162

WaginTail
12-24-19, 19:27
Anyone tried? Haven't dared try momma dees yet.

http://holland.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/kaylee/748821212162With only 3 posts, all of which were asking others for info, you will get respect if you try her out and report back. I have wondered about her myself but waiting to get over a cold to spend time with anyone.

WayneJWorld
12-24-19, 23:45
Anyone tried? Haven't dared try momma dees yet.

http://holland.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/kaylee/748821212162Couple of things.

1. Does she look like any of the staff members posted on momma dees website?

2. Did you happen to do a search in upper right corner for momma dees? There was a discussion just a little while ago about rates.

RealTree40
12-25-19, 00:32
Couple of things.

1. Does she look like any of the staff members posted on momma dees website?

2. Did you happen to do a search in upper right corner for momma dees? There was a discussion just a little while ago about rates.She's legit I saw her Friday not at mommas dees though the pic is very dated she's definitely a pleaser she actually pretty fun to talk to. She's had a rough go of it as of late with personal issues (jealous ex) treat her right and she'll return the favor I donated. 180 for h as always YMMV stay safe gentlemen.

Mr Cruzer
12-25-19, 02:03
I am thinking about visiting Mamma Dee's for the first time. Can someone tell me what to expect when I walk in? Any tips so that I don't look like a total rookie would be appreciated.You might want to try Lee's first, maybe Rongs, I think less chance of being grossly overcharged. But still read up on some of the reviews here to get an idea on what's normally paid at the door, and what is normally tipped, based on what service is received. Hopefully you can locate some of the gems that don't upsell and give an honest MS and good service at a fair price. If you go back far enough, there were some excellent comments, some quite extensive, on this very subject.

If it's your first time, you'll be greeted at the front desk, and usually asked if you want a half or full hour MS. Unless you're a regular, you're usually asked to pay the door fee right away (usually $40 half, $60 hour), then led to a room and asked to get comfortable, which means to strip down and lay down (usually face down) on the table. There's usually a folded towel at the table, to put over your butt if you're shy; but I'm pretty sure not too many of us cover up. A little bit later the provider will join you in the room. Occasionally they will ask what you're looking for right off the bat, but often later into the MS; It can get a little tricky here sometimes; right out asking about a sexual favor for money by either party might legally get either one in trouble, but usually she will convey what's on the menu in a safe manner. If you're just getting into this (fun) hobby, a pretty safe reply is that you're just looking for a good MS and want to leave happy. There's a good chance you'll get at least a passable or better MS, that likely will end with a HJ. She may still try and nail you down on what she charges for the HJ, so having an idea what the going rate is, is helpful. If its reasonable, go for it. If its overpriced, don't be afraid to say no, and be prepared to leave without one. But chances are, if its high, the price is negotiable, and she'll negotiate. I can think of only one time I left at this point where I felt the price for just a HJ was too high. But there have been numerous times I wished I had said no, too much, and walked, instead of agreeing to her price and afterwards feeling I was taken advantage of. Another good tip is don't bring with you more money than what you feel is what the service is worth. I try and also carry some tens in case I want to tip a little more, but maybe not $20 more. Be relaxed, be confident, and you'll enjoy the heck out of this hobby.

WanToBe
12-26-19, 10:20
I just checked out the Momma Dee website and found some new faces in the staff page. I have to admit some caught my interest, anyone been there lately and willing to report? Thanks.Been there 3 times twice with sunny and once with caribbian doll both were great sunny was the best and not expensive.

WanToBe
12-26-19, 11:22
Can anyone tell me about this place been to mamadees like to try others.

Fature
12-26-19, 14:53
Can anyone tell me about this place been to mamadees like to try others.It's been some time sense I was there as I wasn't a fan. Back then there was two girl, one younger, skinny, pretty one and another quite older larger mamasan type. Mamasan never had a problem with HE's but wasn't my cup of tea. The younger prettier one I got an extremely mechanical, almost painful HE from and she looked like she would rather be anywhere else in the world than preforming the HE. Talk about turn off. Also heard from other mongers that they had the younger girl for the MS and then she would leave and the older woman would come in to complete the HE. It's been quite awhile though and maybe things have changed there. I stopped going for the reasons stated above.

WaginTail
12-26-19, 18:22
It's been some time sense I was there as I wasn't a fan. Back then there was two girl, one younger, skinny, pretty one and another quite older larger mamasan type. Mamasan never had a problem with HE's but wasn't my cup of tea. The younger prettier one I got an extremely mechanical, almost painful HE from and she looked like she would rather be anywhere else in the world than preforming the HE. Talk about turn off. Also heard from other mongers that they had the younger girl for the MS and then she would leave and the older woman would come in to complete the HE. It's been quite awhile though and maybe things have changed there. I stopped going for the reasons stated above.My experiences have been exactly as you described, so I stopped going there too.

MassageHunter
12-27-19, 06:42
It's been some time sense I was there as I wasn't a fan. Back then there was two girl, one younger, skinny, pretty one and another quite older larger mamasan type. Mamasan never had a problem with HE's but wasn't my cup of tea. The younger prettier one I got an extremely mechanical, almost painful HE from and she looked like she would rather be anywhere else in the world than preforming the HE. Talk about turn off. Also heard from other mongers that they had the younger girl for the MS and then she would leave and the older woman would come in to complete the HE. It's been quite awhile though and maybe things have changed there. I stopped going for the reasons stated above.Spot on. Been there several times and it's been exactly as you described. I prefer Lee's over Rong.

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MoneyTeamDream
02-03-20, 19:39
I got the young Asian at Rong and she was attitude at times and I felt was not warm at all to touch so didn't touch her and then she rushed out of the room and seem like she didn't want to do anything and wanted a tip so I just kept it as a massage cost of a massage for an hour was. 60. The massage was good but I was really turned off by the attitude of the young female.

WanToBe
02-04-20, 09:02
Was wondering what to expect from lees and what the girls are like and if any are better than others also how do you go about finding out the extras when there is no menu.

Spartan191
02-04-20, 09:06
I got the young Asian at Rong and she was attitude at times and I felt was not warm at all to touch so didn't touch her and then she rushed out of the room and seem like she didn't want to do anything and wanted a tip so I just kept it as a massage cost of a massage for an hour was. 60. The massage was good but I was really turned off by the attitude of the young female.Did she have long hair? If so I had the same experience. I heard from a friend that Lee's in the Lakewood Plaza is much better. I will try when I get back from Vegas. That's if I have any money or strength left.

WestMichguy
02-09-20, 16:33
She's legit I saw her Friday not at mommas dees though the pic is very dated she's definitely a pleaser she actually pretty fun to talk to. She's had a rough go of it as of late with personal issues (jealous ex) treat her right and she'll return the favor I donated. 180 for h as always YMMV stay safe gentlemen.Saw her recently for the first time. The pic that she posts by herself is very dated as stated above. She's the girl in the lower left in the pic in the ad. Even though it was my first appointment with her, she got comfortable right away after the flip and used more than just her hand without any prompting from me. $40/ hh plus $50 tip. Will definitely return.

http://holland.skipthegames.com/massage/asian/mamma-dees-massage-therapist-l/848565013878

http://holland.skipthegames.com/img/009/TMjAzOTgzYjM3YWQxYzhiZWRjYWYxYWI4ZjU3ZGNiMWNmOGUzNTY.jpg

MrSunnyHills
02-09-20, 18:36
Was wondering what to expect from lees and what the girls are like and if any are better than others also how do you go about finding out the extras when there is no menu.I haven't been there, but here is my basic approach to a Chinese AMP.

1. Most importantly, be comfortable paying the entry price for a competent massage, and be happy to leave a modest tip if there are no extras (e. G. If 1 hr is 60, and the massage is decent, leave 10-15, if the massage is excellent, leave 15 to 20).

2. Most places, the technician wants to be comfortable with you. Be pleasant, chat a bit, explain when the massage feels good, or is too hard or too soft. (yes, I realize sometimes the language skills aren't great).

3. If the technician is careful about making sure you are always covered, and rarely gets anywhere close to the fun zone, when you're on your stomach, then there is a higher chance no extras will be available. Remember item 1 on the list. Skip to item 5.

4. If the technician is obviously being sensual, touching places, and not worried about the towel placement, the odds are high that at a minimum a good HE is on the menu.

5. let the technician finish and have you turn over. If its fully legit and no extras are available, she'll either start with the feet or head and massage the face, head, neck, shoulders. However, there is still a chance. If there is a bit of time left, and it seems like nothing much is going to happen, you can simply point and say "can you massage there?" most AMP techs, even at legit places, will either politely say "sorry, don't do that", and if so remember item 1, or will say "will you take care of me" or at annoying places "how much will you give me". If she asks if you'll take care of her, simply say yes, and go with the flow and tip 40 at the end (if it's a routine HE with nothing else). Recall item 1 - if the massage is good, you're basically paying 20 ish for the HE. If she asks how much, say 40. If she asks for more, stand firm and say never mind.

6. if you already think based on item 4 that extras are available, then you can see if there is topless, roaming, or anything beyond HE by asking or motioning.

7. Tip appropriately, be kind, and plan to return to have a more relaxed environment where she knows you, knows you tip OK, and knows you are friendly and knows you are not LE .

TomCfnm
02-10-20, 17:05
Was wondering what to expect from lees and what the girls are like and if any are better than others also how do you go about finding out the extras when there is no menu.I would ask for May, she was always good to me. I was only looking for HE and she seemed imo to infer more was available.

JamesTheSloth
02-12-20, 09:32
I would ask for May, she was always good to me. I was only looking for HE and she seemed imo to infer more was available.Who else work there? Everything I go there, it is always May.

LandShark67
02-12-20, 12:18
I'm not sure if anyone still goes there, but this girl is new and has a rocking body! Chatted via text and it sound like one could experience FS for $100 over door fee. Or nude body slide for only $60.

Any confirmation or? http://holland.skipthegames.com/massage/black_caribbean/a-happy-ending-come-join-the-f/963066348948.

WestMichguy
02-15-20, 14:09
Who else work there? Everything I go there, it is always May.I called last week to make an appointment with her and was told that she went back to China. Because of course she did.

Mike Yepthatsm
02-16-20, 19:46
She quoted me 360 for an hour at her incall in GR.


I'm not sure if anyone still goes there, but this girl is new and has a rocking body! Chatted via text and it sound like one could experience FS for $100 over door fee. Or nude body slide for only $60.

Any confirmation or? http://holland.skipthegames.com/massage/black_caribbean/a-happy-ending-come-join-the-f/963066348948.

WayneJWorld
02-16-20, 20:12
She quoted me 360 for an hour at her incall in GR.She told me $200 for FS at momma dees plus $60 for door. I said $260 for what you can get for $120. I'll pass. She did contact me today but I didn't respond.

JamesTheSloth
02-17-20, 09:56
I called last week to make an appointment with her and was told that she went back to China. Because of course she did.How is the service now without May? Worth going still or a meh?

KiteRose93
02-22-20, 10:56
https://skipthegames.com/img/009/TMjAzOTgzYjM3YWQxYzhiZWRjYWYxYWI4ZjU3ZGNiMWNmOGUzNTY.jpg

Does anyone know the name of the lady in red, 3rd on the bottom row.

AssMann45
02-22-20, 13:36
https://skipthegames.com/img/009/TMjAzOTgzYjM3YWQxYzhiZWRjYWYxYWI4ZjU3ZGNiMWNmOGUzNTY.jpg

Does anyone know the name of the lady in red, 3rd on the bottom row.I believe that is Mamma Dee herself. Could be wrong, but think its her.

WaginTail
02-22-20, 14:23
I believe that is Mamma Dee herself. Could be wrong, but think its her.Its Dee 20 years ago.

KiteRose93
02-24-20, 05:49
Its Dee 20 years ago.Does she provide massages with HE too?

WaginTail
02-24-20, 20:29
Does she provide massages with HE too?Yes, but then she knows me. I don't know if that will be offered to a first time visitor.

Oddjob
02-25-20, 05:57
You have to specifically ask for Dee. She runs the place during the day and generally defers to the other girls, unless you specifically ask for her. It depends how comfortable she is with you as to whether or not you get an HE. If you've been there before, your chances re very good.

CarpetMunchr69
02-27-20, 10:45
You have to specifically ask for Dee. She runs the place during the day and generally defers to the other girls, unless you specifically ask for her. It depends how comfortable she is with you as to whether or not you get an HE. If you've been there before, your chances re very good.Mamma Dee is probably in her early to mid 60's.

Many of the pics of the women on her website are very dated. I was there 3 weeks ago and there was a real skanky late 30's skank lingering around waiting for business. At least 2 other women I saw, I recognized from their STG posting and those pics are severely outdated. Will not repeat.

BigTrucker78
05-13-20, 09:15
I can't wait for the massage businesses to open back up. I'm missing my regular time with my girl at mama Dee's. I wish I had a number to get in touch with her and try to get together with her while this is going on. I've been looking at popular websites hoping to see an add from her but no luck.

I travel for work and can't get into anywhere to see my regular girls it sucks but I've been saving some money to stimulate their pay when I'm able to get back in and see them.

BigGuyFromFort
06-23-20, 10:40
Anyone know current line up at mama dees. Used to see lily there few years back. Wondered if she is still around. Anyone to avoid there?

Spartan191
07-07-20, 15:56
I was at Van Wieren's hardware store the other day and there was a long haired, young Asian girl that walked in to the store. She had a mask on so I could not see her face that well.

She bought a few things and was in line checking out before me. I walked to my car and she walked over to Rong's and went inside.

Has anyone been there lately and what was on the menu and $$.

Thanks.

Have fun and be safe.

KiteRose93
07-07-20, 16:22
I was at Van Wieren's hardware store the other day and there was a long haired, young Asian girl that walked in to the store. She had a mask on so I could not see her face that well.

She bought a few things and was in line checking out before me. I walked to my car and she walked over to Rong's and went inside.

Has anyone been there lately and what was on the menu and $$.

Thanks.

Have fun and be safe.I've personally never been there myself but I look up the place on rubmaps and went out of my way to pay for the premium to read the review that people have posted about the spot. If I remember it right, Rong's doesn't offer extra service but I could be wrong so don't take my word for it.

Of the 3 place we have in town that we're listed on rubmaps, 2 of the 3 offer extra service. Mamma Dee's and Lee's Massage are the only 2 that saw on there that said they did, but if you decide to take the plunge let us know and stay safe.

https://www.rubmaps.ch/erotic-massage-lees-massage-holland-mi-29126#reviews.

https://www.rubmaps.ch/erotic-massage-mama-dees-holland-mi-29018#rubmaps.

https://www.rubmaps.ch/erotic-massage-rong-massage-holland-mi-44860#rubmaps.

Electronman
08-03-20, 04:58
I stopped by Momma Dee's on a recent afternoon. I drew Jada, a middle aged Black woman. The session featured a good massage with some teasing and an interesting conversation. More services were available and each service had a separate price tag, kind of like building your own pizza with separately ordered toppings. The prices seemed a bit steep so I didn't order many upgrades.

I like variety so I probably would not repeat, although I did enjoy my first visit with Jada.

I haven't seen many recent reviews of the other Holland AMPs. Any other recommendations for attractive women who offer outstanding service?

WaginTail
08-03-20, 09:43
I stopped by Momma Dee's on a recent afternoon. I drew Jada, a middle aged Black woman. The session featured a good massage with some teasing and an interesting conversation. More services were available and each service had a separate price tag, kind of like building your own pizza with separately ordered toppings. The prices seemed a bit steep so I didn't order many upgrades.

I like variety so I probably would not repeat, although I did enjoy my first visit with Jada.

I haven't seen many recent reviews of the other Holland AMPs. Any other recommendations for attractive women who offer outstanding service?I have not been active since Covid, but I used to get pretty good service at Rong (by Van Wienen Hardware). There are mixed reviews on this site, but I always got what I went in for. They had 1 middle aged Asian that looked decent (7/10) but only did massage, and another older gal that came in to do HE. I would pay double to get the knock out Asian manager, but she doesn't see clients.

There is another AMP in the strip mall at River / Lakewood. There was 1 middle aged Asian that looked pretty nice (8/10) that did CM quality massage and very good at HE, but I don't remember her name.

Never knew what I would find at Dee's, good ones don't seem to stay long.

Matcha85
08-07-20, 16:04
Looks like kat is back at mama dees if anyone was looking forward to meeting her.

https://holland.skipthegames.com/massage/exotic/back-like-i-never-left/487632742019

LandRover20
10-03-20, 11:31
Is anyone familiar? https://holland.craigslist.org/bts/d/spring-lake-in-home-massage-therapy/7202027545.html.

I tried doing a search but nothing came up. Just curious if she is real and maybe I can do some recon.

WaginTail
10-03-20, 14:33
Is anyone familiar? https://holland.craigslist.org/bts/d/spring-lake-in-home-massage-therapy/7202027545.html.

I tried doing a search but nothing came up. Just curious if she is real and maybe I can do some recon.Since it is on craigslist, and she states no sexual, appears to be just an expensive and legit massage.

StevesMilin
10-04-20, 19:04
Is anyone familiar? https://holland.craigslist.org/bts/d/spring-lake-in-home-massage-therapy/7202027545.html.

I tried doing a search but nothing came up. Just curious if she is real and maybe I can do some recon.I've visited her twice. Didn't push it but no indication of anything but legit other than provocative pics. Husband is around. I'll three-peat because the basic massage is good and I'm a dreamer.

I'll report back.

SS.

WanToBe
10-22-20, 11:21
Looking for asian massage in holland would like more than he looking for daty.

Mr Cruzer
10-22-20, 14:03
Looking for asian massage in holland would like more than he looking for daty.Rong is probably out of the question; the Asian one on Ottawa Beach Rd is likely a no go. Mamma D's, although Asian owned, has girls of all races, and its likely you will find all that you are looking for. I haven't been there for quite some time, so I can't give a specific name on who works there now, but this is your best bet.

Mr Cruzer
10-22-20, 14:09
I've visited her twice. Didn't push it but no indication of anything but legit other than provocative pics. Husband is around. I'll three-peat because the basic massage is good and I'm a dreamer.

I'll report back.

SS.Have you three-peated yet? Seems by three tries its either a go or no go.

WanToBe
12-06-20, 13:10
Still looking for an asian for FS.

WaginTail
12-06-20, 18:31
Still looking for an asian for FS.I think you are looking for a unicorn, but if you do find one, please let us know.

StevesMilin
12-08-20, 08:14
Have you three-peated yet? Seems by three tries its either a go or no go.No. Decided to lay low. Lost a dear uncle to Covid and I'm high risk.

Give her a try. She hinted at sensual therapy in my last text exchange with her.

Stay well.

FinGuy123
12-08-20, 13:52
First time asking on here. Grateful such a place exists so we can be sure not to get taken advantage of, and to learn and be safe. That said, has anyone had experience with Touch of an Angel:

https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/exotic/touch-of-an-angel/580285205333

Also, I haven't seen posts from Issa and Lauren in the 44th St & Byron Center area in over a week. Did something happen to them? Thanks for your help.

AssMann45
12-08-20, 17:50
First time asking on here. Grateful such a place exists so we can be sure not to get taken advantage of, and to learn and be safe. That said, has anyone had experience with Touch of an Angel:


https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/exotic/touch-of-an-angel/580285205333

Also, I haven't seen posts from Issa and Lauren in the 44th St & Byron Center area in over a week. Did something happen to them? Thanks for your help.All the answers to your questions can be found on the GR massage section my friend. Very little to be desired here in Holland. Good luck!

Scott1269
12-09-20, 00:45
No. Decided to lay low. Lost a dear uncle to Covid and I'm high risk.

Give her a try. She hinted at sensual therapy in my last text exchange with her.

Stay well.Got her number?

Ad off CL.

McNasty504
01-14-21, 18:09
Still looking for an asian for FS.Mama Dee. Bit better bring your check book with you.

Hoeser
04-07-21, 21:23
I've visited her twice. Didn't push it but no indication of anything but legit other than provocative pics. Husband is around. I'll three-peat because the basic massage is good and I'm a dreamer.

I'll report back.

SS.Does anyone have there number.

JamesTheSloth
05-20-21, 13:36
Visit Rong again couple days ago. Nothing changed. Still those two working there. The younger one doesn't even touch you there and the older one can give you a HE. However, it doesn't feel happy at all.

KiteRose93
05-20-21, 15:01
Visit Rong again couple days ago. Nothing changed. Still those two working there. The younger one doesn't even touch you there and the older one can give you a HE. However, it doesn't feel happy at all.What was the damage? Or cost wise.

JamesTheSloth
05-21-21, 01:00
What was the damage? Or cost wise.60 + 60. But why? You still want to give it a try?

WaginTail
05-21-21, 06:54
Visit Rong again couple days ago. Nothing changed. Still those two working there. The younger one doesn't even touch you there and the older one can give you a HE. However, it doesn't feel happy at all.Try Lees on the corner of River and Lakewood. In the strip center behind Hog Wild. Young and CMT quality massage and HE. Allows roaming but with all her clothes on.

KiteRose93
05-21-21, 14:32
60 + 60. But why? You still want to give it a try?Maybe, I went to Mama Dee's and my experience over there was horrible. Rong was listed on the review site that I had used and most of them said that they didn't offer HE or was limited on what they be willing to do. Hence I never tired them yet or Lee's as well.

What did you get to do with the 60 tip? I assume HE but more specific would be nice. You can PM if you'd like.

JamesTheSloth
05-23-21, 01:43
Maybe, I went to Mama Dee's and my experience over there was horrible. Rong was listed on the review site that I had used and most of them said that they didn't offer HE or was limited on what they be willing to do. Hence I never tired them yet or Lee's as well.

What did you get to do with the 60 tip? I assume HE but more specific would be nice. You can PM if you'd like.Just HJ. Feel like my dick was almost pulled off.

BigGulpShuh
05-24-21, 13:13
Try Lees on the corner of River and Lakewood. In the strip center behind Hog Wild. Young and CMT quality massage and HE. Allows roaming but with all her clothes on.I can confirm that clothes off is possible, as is FIV.

JTeam1
06-07-21, 23:05
So I saw Nikki on Skip the games and saw she works at Mamma Dees. Is she worth the visit? Is anyone else there worth it. What is on the menu there?

AssMann45
06-08-21, 10:08
So I saw Nikki on Skip the games and saw she works at Mamma Dees. Is she worth the visit? Is anyone else there worth it. What is on the menu there?FS can be had from all the ladies there. They want an arm and a leg tho for half ass service. Much better options in the GR area if you are willing to travel.

Plus her pics are heavily filtered and she is much larger in person.

Hope this helps.

Matcha85
06-08-21, 10:32
So I saw Nikki on Skip the games and saw she works at Mamma Dees. Is she worth the visit? Is anyone else there worth it. What is on the menu there?I would stay clear of Mamma Dees unless you want to pay higher than escort rates for bad massages and ugly girls. They will demand tips of like $100 just to get their shirts off. Like AssMann45 said drive to Grand Rapids for much better service at better prices with more attractive girls.

LatinaLvr1
06-08-21, 10:38
I would stay clear of Mamma Dees unless you want to pay higher than escort rates for bad massages and ugly girls. They will demand tips of like $100 just to get their shirts off. Like AssMann45 said drive to Grand Rapids for much better service at better prices with more attractive girls.I couldn't agree more, stay clear.

VegiGuy
06-22-21, 02:00
So. I stopped by Lee's yesterday. Heard some decent things about the place so I thought I would give it a shot. Did a walk in and got (as far as I could tell because she never took off the mask) a 30 something Asian woman. Very friendly and asked repeatedly if what she was doing was ok.Communication was rough (she doesn't speak very much English, but the rub was amazing (didn't miss a spot and seemed to find every tight spot on my body) flip was slightly better than ok, nothing special. Damage was 40/40. Didn't ask for extras but got the feeling that there are none. Will definitely repeat when I want a great rub.

WaginTail
06-24-21, 07:19
TOFT She is the woman in the pic but 15 years and 200 pounds ago. I have enjoyed BBW encounters but don't like the deception of posting this picture on STG. Terrible massage and made no attempt to hide the fact that she hated her job, real mood killer. While getting dressed, watched her just tidy up the table, did not put on clean sheet. I have learned my lesson and won't be back to this place. https://holland.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/kaylee/112892179009.

LooksNordic
06-24-21, 18:31
TOFT She is the woman in the pic but 15 years and 200 pounds ago. I have enjoyed BBW encounters but don't like the deception of posting this picture on STG. Terrible massage and made no attempt to hide the fact that she hated her job, real mood killer. While getting dressed, watched her just tidy up the table, did not put on clean sheet. I have learned my lesson and won't be back to this place. https://holland.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/kaylee/112892179009.I had the misfortune of contacting Kaylee from STG for outcall. I completely agree with WaginTail, 15 year old pictures and easily 200 pounds ago. This woman is huge and not what I would call pretty and apparently hates her job. Very un friendly. She didn't even bother to shower before coming over. She will do everything bare, if that is your thing, but there is no way I would bareback THAT girl. Settled for a blowjob and sent her on her way. So if you are looking at her ad on STG, be warned. What you see is not what you will get. She gets a big, hard no from me.

Mfarfu Tom
07-12-21, 08:34
TOFT She is the woman in the pic but 15 years and 200 pounds ago. I have enjoyed BBW encounters but don't like the deception of posting this picture on STG. Terrible massage and made no attempt to hide the fact that she hated her job, real mood killer. While getting dressed, watched her just tidy up the table, did not put on clean sheet. I have learned my lesson and won't be back to this place. https://holland.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/kaylee/112892179009.Is this Kitty Kat who is on STG or is Kat a different lady? Any 411 on Kat?

WayneJWorld
07-12-21, 09:50
Is this Kitty Kat who is on STG or is Kat a different lady? Any 411 on Kat?Kay is good looking, good service, but expensive. It is not the one that is referenced to and linked to in your post.

Kat is good looking, good figure, and good service. As with all momma dees encounters somewhat expensive. She is not the kaylee that you referenced and provided a link to in your report

E1030
07-22-21, 09:29
Looking for a massage girl that finishes with a bbbjtcim.

Moonglow913
07-23-21, 07:50
Looking for a massage girl that finishes with a bbbjtcim.Aren't we all?

JoeHolland
07-23-21, 21:16
Aren't we all?At a fair price too.

NewTurner
08-01-21, 07:53
So I've been to Lee's a four to five times over the past month, walk-in every time, and I've had the same masseuse each visit. She is late 40's early 50's is my guess but I've never caught her name. Massage is great, but I am wondering it there is a specific masseuse I should be asking for at Lee's? I would love someone a tad more youthful.

SlicknAnals17
08-18-21, 16:44
Been to Lees a couple times. Once in the winter and couple months ago. Good experiences. The lady's are tough with English but they know what they are doing. Very excellent massages and HE. It will be a place I like to go back to. Anyone ever try to go the extra mile with the lady's? I'm not sure how comfortable they are with you touching them or if they do extra stuff.

Mr Cruzer
08-20-21, 08:21
So I've been to Lee's a four to five times over the past month, walk-in every time, and I've had the same masseuse each visit. She is late 40's early 50's is my guess but I've never caught her name. Massage is great, but I am wondering it there is a specific masseuse I should be asking for at Lee's? I would love someone a tad more youthful.Try going in at a different time. Often the ones that have been working there longest (and usually the oldest) get to pick their shift, and they often prefer days.

Michael1098
08-24-21, 11:56
Does anyone know the name.

Second from the left.

On the bottom.

https://static.wixstatic.com/media/a0b6d0_94ddce3820fb4e6c977ed47ac6e788f6~mv2.jpeg/v1/fill/w_560, h_354,al_c,lg_1,q_80/123_1-side-down. Jpeg.

Kitty Comb
08-28-21, 16:04
Had a dream I was going through town and went to Lee's. Woman behind desk was young but huge so I had my doubts. Asked who was working and 40's woman named "judy" stepped out to show me.

Booked half hour, $40. Very easy straight forward with hard pressure. L1 finish was decent. Easy going throughout, some OTC roaming but she maintained control with her position. Good lunch at BBQ afterwards.

Would possibly repeat.

StevesMilin
09-14-21, 09:07
Saw two ads for Kali. One in massage another in escort. Escort post shows same as massage. No mention of escort services. I'm intrigued but concerned about the mention of high cost at Mama Dees.

Anyone seen ms Kali?

Thanks.

SS.

WaginTail
09-14-21, 16:47
Saw two ads for Kali. One in massage another in escort. Escort post shows same as massage. No mention of escort services. I'm intrigued but concerned about the mention of high cost at Mama Dees.

Anyone seen ms Kali?

Thanks.

SS.Scroll down to post 337.

StevesMilin
09-14-21, 17:19
Scroll down to post 337.Whoa! I read thru old posts but didn't catch the name spelling variation. Thanks for saving me from a bad experience!

SS.

BrentRS
10-14-21, 08:28
New on here. Anyone have any recommendations in the Holland area?

WaginTail
10-14-21, 13:34
New on here. Anyone have any recommendations in the Holland area?Scroll down a page or 2 and you will see reports on all 3 in Holland. None are great.

Need To
10-18-21, 17:22
New on here. Anyone have any recommendations in the Holland area?I have visited all three. Rings is definitely the best.

JpWrong67
10-30-21, 17:06
https://holland.skipthegames.com/massage/caucasian_w/relax-with-me/739379077621

Has anyone had a massage with this provider.

JpWrong67
10-31-21, 12:45
https://holland.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/new-girl/962389420368

Has anyone every try this provider.

Moonglow913
01-07-22, 10:52
https://holland.skipthegames.com/massage/caucasian_w/relax-with-me/739379077621

Has anyone had a massage with this provider.She sounds like she might be legit. Let us know if you can confirm.

SlideWay69
01-31-22, 20:53
I'm in town on business and read some reviews that you guys had left. So I tried out Lee's and it was as advertised. It was just what I needed after driving all day. I noticed alot of people mention grand rapids is worth the drive. Do they have any with old school table showers or other outstanding service that I should drive out and see.

Thanks in advance.

WestMichguy
03-24-22, 15:47
Any info on this girl? Looks pretty good in the pics and would be nice to not have to drive to GR for good service.

https://holland.skipthegames.com/massage/exotic/new-fun-outgoing-girl-come-rel/518003961812

WaginTail
03-24-22, 16:16
Any info on this girl? Looks pretty good in the pics and would be nice to not have to drive to GR for good service.

https://holland.skipthegames.com/massage/exotic/new-fun-outgoing-girl-come-rel/518003961812Couldn't find anything in search engine here. Peaks my interest too, but too busy at work to give it a try. Please report back if you see her.

E1030
04-07-22, 11:45
Drove past Mama Dee's around 11 am, and the place looked closed. Store front windows were empty, and no light on. Does anyone know if they moved, or took the day off?

Matcha85
04-07-22, 17:46
Drove past Mama Dee's around 11 am, and the place looked closed. Store front windows were empty, and no light on. Does anyone know if they moved, or took the day off?They posted some STG ads mentioning it was closing last week so it probably did close.

Mongerlian
04-11-22, 12:00
They posted some STG ads mentioning it was closing last week so it probably did close.Good riddance. Only went there twice. One was a blatant bait and switch, one wanted $ for a topless HJ. And this was years ago. No real loss here.

WestMichguy
04-12-22, 14:14
They posted some STG ads mentioning it was closing last week so it probably did close.I talked with Jazz (whom I still haven't seen for an appointment) and she confirmed they are closed but she said they will be re-opening "somewhere".

Spartan191
04-12-22, 16:46
I talked with Jazz (whom I still haven't seen for an appointment) and she confirmed they are closed but she said they will be re-opening "somewhere".Was at Mama Dee's once and never again.

I now go to Lee's which is in the Lakewood Plaza Once they get to know you, the service really improves. Typical AMP.

I want to try Rongs by Van Wieren's. I stop into the party store thee and there is a girl sometimes outside who is very pretty with very long hair. I think she is usually the only one there.

Have fun and be safe.

E1030
04-13-22, 12:04
Was at Mama Dee's once and never again.

I now go to Lee's which is in the Lakewood Plaza Once they get to know you, the service really improves. Typical AMP.

I want to try Rongs by Van Wieren's. I stop into the party store thee and there is a girl sometimes outside who is very pretty with very long hair. I think she is usually the only one there.

Have fun and be safe.I wonder where she will show up? She closed East / West, and now Holland.

HckyFan
04-26-22, 12:22
Hey guys, now with mama's closed. What other parlors offer FS? Holland / grandhaven area.

WaginTail
04-26-22, 20:27
Hey guys, now with mama's closed. What other parlors offer FS? Holland / grandhaven area.The only other parlors that have anything beyond massage is Lees on River / Lakewood; and Rongs on Douglas /144th. You won't get anything more than a hand job at either one, if you are lucky.

HckyFan
04-27-22, 16:53
Hey all,

Has anyone had any experience with grandhaven therapeutic massage? I heard precovid she had secret fetish menu. Any experience? Might give it a try.

Fature
04-27-22, 18:42
Hey all,

Has anyone had any experience with grandhaven therapeutic massage? I heard precovid she had secret fetish menu. Any experience? Might give it a try.I had a MS with her once a couple years ago. MS was ok, nothing to write home about. No teasing, convo, or HE. She advertises that "fetish" session but based off the regular MS I never sought to find out what it entailed.

StevesMilin
04-28-22, 06:42
I had a MS with her once a couple years ago. MS was ok, nothing to write home about. No teasing, convo, or HE. She advertises that "fetish" session but based off the regular MS I never sought to find out what it entailed.I've seen her a couple of times, not in the last year. Absolutely no convo or teasing. So so massage. I believe her fetish session may be just HE.

Nice person but totally lacking sensuality or character.

Ss.

BoatLuver
05-02-22, 23:40
Iv'e been to Rongs several times. You have to work up the ladder with the old lady. You'll only receive a hand job the first few visits. BBBJ with an up charge the next few visits. BBFS with up charge after that. Good luck!

BoatLuver
05-02-22, 23:57
I've been to Rongs several times. You have to earn your stripes with the old lady. Only a hand job the first few visits. BBBJ with upcharge the next few visits. BBFS with up charge after that. She is a clock watcher.

ArmstBra
05-07-22, 11:03
Iv'e been to Rongs several times. You have to work up the ladder with the old lady. You'll only receive a hand job the first few visits. BBBJ with an up charge the next few visits. BBFS with up charge after that. Good luck!I went yesterday and she gave me a BBBJ and it was good. Let me suck on her boobs a little bit as well. What does she do for BBFS?

Mickey666
05-07-22, 20:07
I've been to Rongs several times. You have to earn your stripes with the old lady. Only a hand job the first few visits. BBBJ with upcharge the next few visits. BBFS with up charge after that. She is a clock watcher.Stopped by here. Got an old lady. She has a nice personality. Negotiated a tip. She moves to my ass and starts lightly rimming me, I lift my hips up and she strokes my cock while my balls. On the flip, She does 69 and BBBJ. No hurry. The BBBJ was outstanding The teeth are added for free. Nearly blow my load early. Will repeat.

WealthMoney
05-07-22, 22:05
How does someone have sex in a massage parlor I must be naive is there a private sound proof room.

BoatLuver
05-08-22, 21:15
I went yesterday and she gave me a BBBJ and it was good. Let me suck on her boobs a little bit as well. What does she do for BBFS?Rode me bb into the table.

HangLow3
05-09-22, 14:59
I've been to Rongs several times. You have to earn your stripes with the old lady. Only a hand job the first few visits. BBBJ with upcharge the next few visits. BBFS with up charge after that. She is a clock watcher.I haven't been there in awhile. The young tall girl still there?

Thank you.

HangLow3
05-09-22, 15:04
Was at Mama Dee's once and never again.

I now go to Lee's which is in the Lakewood Plaza Once they get to know you, the service really improves. Typical AMP.

I want to try Rongs by Van Wieren's. I stop into the party store thee and there is a girl sometimes outside who is very pretty with very long hair. I think she is usually the only one there.

Have fun and be safe.Sorry about all questions, but I'm looking for new options. May I ask price and tip for an hour there?

Thank you.

HollandGuy73
05-09-22, 17:09
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ArmstBra
05-12-22, 12:20
Rode me bb into the table.Does she ride you with condom or no? How much does she charge you for her to ride you? Was it a good time?

HangLow3
05-13-22, 21:32
Sorry about all questions, but I'm looking for new options. May I ask price and tip for an hour there?

Thank you.Thanks bros.

Got a pm to help, search.

HckyFan
05-13-22, 21:53
Hey guys. Anyone have any info on where the other ladies from mama Dees ended up. Like Serena or Ashley, There was another African American girl too I didn't mind seeing. I see Niki is posting on GR STG. At a hotel in Gr.

Thanks.

Mr Cruzer
07-22-22, 23:21
Felt a little bored with the standard fare in GH and Skee Town, so decided to TOFTT with Ebony. Had not heard anything about her, but ads sounded like there might be some potential, maybe UTR type. Nice girl, decent figure, and pleasant to talk to. Nice, discreet office in a large commercial building. MS was quite good; she listened to my preferences, etc. However, no teasing whatsoever; stayed miles away from the boys, never even touched my butt. And, no flip, no MS on front side whatsoever.

WaginTail
08-05-22, 16:51
Anyone try to contact her?

https://holland.skipthegames.com/massage/exotic/Queen-Kendra/357967388501

SuperStar2001
08-15-22, 10:14
What is the donation for FS?

WaginTail
08-16-22, 21:25
What is the donation for FS?You will not get full service anywhere in Holland, including Rongs. HJ if you are lucky.

Merlot69
08-27-22, 20:10
You will not get full service anywhere in Holland, including Rongs. HJ if you are lucky.My first trip and was offered the complete menu.

Merlot69
09-10-22, 16:52
Found this place while surfing any imfo.

RaulJulia
09-10-22, 20:43
Found this place while surfing any imfo.Seems to just be massage. Everything about the place screams typical AMP, but Sophie seems to be determined to keep it just massage. I tried twice with Sophie and only got a massage. A nice massage, but just a massage. Sucks too because she's pretty attractive IMO. Other reports of similar experiences by other mongers. I even heard her yell at a guy on the phone one day who I think just called and asked if they gave happy endings or something similar. She was quite annoyed with him. There are 1 or 2 other girls who work there, so they might be open to it--but my sense is if they are, it's without Sophie's knowledge.

Merlot69
09-11-22, 10:48
Seems to just be massage. Everything about the place screams typical AMP, but Sophie seems to be determined to keep it just massage. I tried twice with Sophie and only got a massage. A nice massage, but just a massage. Sucks too because she's pretty attractive IMO. Other reports of similar experiences by other mongers. I even heard her yell at a guy on the phone one day who I think just called and asked if they gave happy endings or something similar. She was quite annoyed with him. There are 1 or 2 other girls who work there, so they might be open to it--but my sense is if they are, it's without Sophie's knowledge.I'd she make you cover up? How was she dressed any chance there.

RaulJulia
09-13-22, 01:41
I'd she make you cover up? How was she dressed any chance there.Sophie has been wearing yoga pants and a t-shirt or something similar when I've seen her. Other employees there dress similar, though one had on a skirt once when I was there--mid-length. Nothing too suggestive to say "roam here" or anything like that. Sophie's choice of clothing shows off her figure, but also doesn't allow easy access. As far as covering up, I was completely naked and she didn't seem to mind. She did loosely drape a towel over the boys on the flip. She got close to the goods and maybe even grazed them ever so slightly (been a while, so I don't remember exactly), but any actual grazing or touching seemed accidental. Honestly, it was frustrating and confusing. Like I said, everything about the place makes you think it's a typical AMP with rub and tug, but no follow through. They're open late, on the website it refers to what they do as "bodywork," etc. I went the first time and had a good massage. She was very nice and even somewhat playful and flirty. When we got to the end of my time and she stopped, I even politely said something like, "So that's all for today?" and she said "Yes, that's all. " Not harsh with me, but not suggesting there would be more later. I gave it one more shot with her and it was similar. Nice massage, a little playful, not uptight about me being naked--but nothing more. I texted with her for a while after each visit. She'd let me know when they had 2 providers available if I wanted 4 hands and that sort of thing with her texts. So I finally brought it up in a text exchange. I told her I really enjoyed the massages and thought she was a lot of fun to be around, but always left frustrated because she gave me a great massage on every part of my body except one--and that's the one I was really hoping she'd massage. She didn't seem pissed off by my question, I think because I'd seen her a couple of times, hadn't been a jerk about the lack of HE, and established a bit of rapport with her. So she texted me back and told me she understood my desires and that I wasn't the first man to come there hoping that was included and she knew lots of places did that, but that she only did massage. She's texted me a few more times letting me know about specials or telling me she'd like to see me come for a massage again and we've exchanged pleasantries. And honestly, if I just wanted a good massage by a sweet lady, I'd go back. But I do find her attractive and she gets close, but no cigar, so to speak, so it's hard to justify putting myself through that again knowing I'm almost certainly going to leave with some pent up frustration.

JoeHolland
09-18-22, 17:27
Found this place while surfing any imfo.Been there twice and was hopeful for some fun. I took a shower before the massage, they tease a bit but that's all. I left a 20% tip and they said they expect 25-40%. I gave additional and left, I won't return.

BoatLuver
10-22-22, 23:21
Tried Rongs again. Met a new gal there Sophia. Says she's been there about a month. Not bad looking, probably 5'6"-5'7", 135-140-ish, 34 B cup with small nipples. Uses her phone to translate which works ok. Scheduled a HH. She gave me about a minute to strip. I laid on my back sunny side up. She asked if I wanted a message and I said yes but the front side. She immediately began a hand job. She said no oral on the first encounter. After about 5 minutes she put a cover on and rode me for 5 minutes. Just an average ride. Dismounted, ripped the cover off and remounted. She obviously like that much better. We're getting low on time so I opted for another HH. Put her on her back at the edge of the table while I stood thrusting. After 5 or so minutes, she really got into it! Luvs her nipples tweaked while doing it. Lots of moaning and begging. Gets quite wet when she's excited. She is a clock watcher. $$. 45 for the hour of BBFS including door charge. I probably repeat.

Merlot69
12-13-22, 22:17
Tried Rongs again. Met a new gal there Sophia. Says she's been there about a month. Not bad looking, probably 5'6"-5'7", 135-140-ish, 34 B cup with small nipples. Uses her phone to translate which works ok. Scheduled a HH. She gave me about a minute to strip. I laid on my back sunny side up. She asked if I wanted a message and I said yes but the front side. She immediately began a hand job. She said no oral on the first encounter. After about 5 minutes she put a cover on and rode me for 5 minutes. Just an average ride. Dismounted, ripped the cover off and remounted. She obviously like that much better. We're getting low on time so I opted for another HH. Put her on her back at the edge of the table while I stood thrusting. After 5 or so minutes, she really got into it! Luvs her nipples tweaked while doing it. Lots of moaning and begging. Gets quite wet when she's excited. She is a clock watcher. $$. 45 for the hour of BBFS including door charge. I probably repeat.Well this is an old post by 2 months can anyone update it for me getting ready to go shopping and want to make this a present for me PM me wit an update please.

DonZilu1
12-27-22, 14:49
I have been gone for a while and have recently seen.

Delilah in GR for a very nice time just like others have reported.

https://skipthegames.com/posts/grand-rapids/massage/black_caribbean/ebony-masseuse/591214950879

I have seen this one post in Grand Haven a lot but have not seen any reviews. Any info? Post several times a day.

https://skipthegames.com/posts/grand-rapids/female-escorts/caucasian_e/grand-haven-150-special-/057451810697

BashTheJohnson
12-28-22, 12:41
I have been gone for a while and have recently seen.

Delilah in GR for a very nice time just like others have reported.

https://skipthegames.com/posts/grand-rapids/massage/black_caribbean/ebony-masseuse/591214950879

I have seen this one post in Grand Haven a lot but have not seen any reviews. Any info? Post several times a day.

https://skipthegames.com/posts/grand-rapids/female-escorts/caucasian_e/grand-haven-150-special-/057451810697The GH girl went by Ava few years ago. Saw her a few times, nice MILF body then. Pictures are dated, most from when she posted before Covid. Nice girl, I had CFS back then, but she was more into massage with few extras. She had a regular job so did massage and some escort for extra cash. Was working on remodeling her home. Not should but this maybe the case again.

Fature
12-29-22, 12:46
The GH girl went by Ava few years ago. Saw her a few times, nice MILF body then. Pictures are dated, most from when she posted before Covid. Nice girl, I had CFS back then, but she was more into massage with few extras. She had a regular job so did massage and some escort for extra cash. Was working on remodeling her home. Not should but this maybe the case again.I've been interested in her massage. What was her incall situation like back then?

BashTheJohnson
12-29-22, 15:55
I've been interested in her massage. What was her incall situation like back then?She is using a room at a local motel.

Bobcat23
01-03-23, 16:04
She is using a room at a local motel.Has anyone seen Ava from Grand Haven. She post massage and sometimes FS. Checking to see if it's worth the drive.

Rare Crzr
01-04-23, 15:19
Has anyone seen Ava from Grand Haven. She post massage and sometimes FS. Checking to see if it's worth the drive.Is this who you are asking about? https://skipthegames.com/posts/grand-rapids/female-escorts/caucasian_e/grand-haven-150-special-/444383195944.

If so, she is a nice attractive woman (pics are accurate) who mainly offers massage but will sometimes do FS if she's comfortable with you. It's confusing that she posts on the Escort pages but often says massage only. Guess you just have to ask and accept what she offers.

ShellyBelli
01-09-23, 03:18
Been going to lees for about a year now. Not a frequent guy by any means but enough to know what I like and don't like.

Anyway I was seeing a lady there named Trudy I think she said her name was Trudy at least. Last time I went it was someone I've never seen before there was slight teasing and on the flip was able to negotiate a HE but very robotic like. Besides that experience I've seen sweet cheeks once and had the best time of my life. Wasn't able to pop cause I'm an asshole. But the massage and everything else was top notch.

Merlot69
04-16-23, 14:58
Went to visit sophie at rongs mama says she's gone new girl ok I didn't want ok I was looking for sophie anyone got any info holland been deed all wilter.

Spartan191
04-17-23, 09:04
Went to visit sophie at rongs mama says she's gone new girl ok I didn't want ok I was looking for sophie anyone got any info holland been deed all wilter.

I have not been to Rongs since I was turned away 6 months ago because they were busy.
Last Friday I had been driving for several hours and was a bit stiff, so I pulled into the lot and Lee's. Frist time there.
Walked in paid for an hour ($60 HHR is $40) and was shown to a room. Got comfortable and waited a few minutes.
Soon a 40 something lady came and said her name was Suzy.
She began by doing some pulling and stretching without oil or lotion. Almost more like kneading.I like it as a warmup, I like my messages medium to hard. I tried to chat with her but the language barrier was to much.
Soon she started with some very light oil and again very nice massage. There was no hint of teasing, even after I spread my legs a bit to allow some.
After a half hour she went to get a warm towel and wiped me down, dried me off and asked me to turn over.
Right after I turned over, she lightly touched me near my member and played with me for a minute. There were no negotiations or asking for a tip. She nodded and I nodded back, and she got some oil and began an OK HJ. Nothing else was offered. I did begin to roam a bit. She has very tight, little ass and I worked my way up to some small perty breasts. She had on a padded bra but I was able to get that moved with out protest.
Since there had been no teasing and nothing to get me exited it took a while. She had to work, even making some sexy moaning noises. Once that was done, she.
Cleaned me all up again and then sat on a stool near my head. She spent the next 10 minutes massaging my scalp, my neck and face before moving down and doing my chest and legs.
Cleaned me up again and I got dressed. Left $60 tip which she was very appreciative.
Over all the massage was an 8 out of ten for me. Not teasing and so the HE was 5 out of 10.
There was no one there when I arrived but soon after it got busy with a few men told to leave and come back.
Have fun and stay safe.

Cj357
04-18-23, 06:04
Hi finally get to make post my first report. Have issues activating my account so this is a little over. I know some have said that nothing is available at Rongs until you paid you dues. But I was offered BBBJ on first visits by the older lady. Very mechanical but also enthusiastic. Massage was actually good (not great).

Merlot69
04-19-23, 12:02
Sophie has been wearing yoga pants and a t-shirt or something similar when I've seen her. Other employees there dress similar, though one had on a skirt once when I was there--mid-length. Nothing too suggestive to say "roam here" or anything like that. Sophie's choice of clothing shows off her figure, but also doesn't allow easy access. As far as covering up, I was completely naked and she didn't seem to mind. She did loosely drape a towel over the boys on the flip. She got close to the goods and maybe even grazed them ever so slightly (been a while, so I don't remember exactly), but any actual grazing or touching seemed accidental. Honestly, it was frustrating and confusing. Like I said, everything about the place makes you think it's a typical AMP with rub and tug, but no follow through. They're open late, on the website it refers to what they do as "bodywork," etc. I went the first time and had a good massage. She was very nice and even somewhat playful and flirty. When we got to the end of my time and she stopped, I even politely said something like, "So that's all for today?" and she said "Yes, that's all. " Not harsh with me, but not suggesting there would be more later. I gave it one more shot with her and it was similar. Nice massage, a little playful, not uptight about me being naked--but nothing more. I texted with her for a while after each visit. She'd let me know when they had 2 providers available if I wanted 4 hands and that sort of thing with her texts. So I finally brought it up in a text exchange. I told her I really enjoyed the massages and thought she was a lot of fun to be around, but always left frustrated because she gave me a great massage on every part of my body except one--and that's the one I was really hoping she'd massage. She didn't seem pissed off by my question, I think because I'd seen her a couple of times, hadn't been a jerk about the lack of HE, and established a bit of rapport with her. So she texted me back and told me she understood my desires and that I wasn't the first man to come there hoping that was included and she knew lots of places did that, but that she only did massage. She's texted me a few more times letting me know about specials or telling me she'd like to see me come for a massage again and we've exchanged pleasantries. And honestly, if I just wanted a good massage by a sweet lady, I'd go back. But I do find her attractive and she gets close, but no cigar, so to speak, so it's hard to justify putting myself through that again knowing I'm almost certainly going to leave with some pent up frustration.Time for several to TOFIT someone has got to have the charm to get this girls attention to a flag pole I'm going to give it a try anyone else want to TRY Reply.

BoatGuyMi
04-25-23, 13:09
Made an appointment with Linda (younger thin woman gives a great massage but no HE. She no longer works there. Luckily I had to be in Holland for work or else it would have been a waste of time. The older woman is game, but I was looking forward to a great massage.

RaulJulia
04-26-23, 21:33
Time for several to TOFIT someone has got to have the charm to get this girls attention to a flag pole I'm going to give it a try anyone else want to TRY Reply.Since that previous post I have gotten a few HJs at Sophie's. But I haven't posted because Sophie seems like the type to check these boards and fire girls because of it and that would ruin any shot at getting a HE with a massage there. I haven't been there in a while, so I don't know the current status, but my advice is, if you have any chance at getting some extras, don't let Sophie be the one to give the massage. Don't get me wrong, of the providers I've seen there, she's the one I'd most like to have some fun with. But she's been rather insistent that nothing like that goes on there not only with me, but with others I've heard try who've called and asked about it. I've gotten HEs when she wasn't there and those were fun b / c the pressure was off the provider and she could do her thing. But I've gotten a few while Sophie was giving a massage in the next room. The provider I was seeing would talk to her in Chinese through the wall just so that she could tell where Sophie was. If Sophie was walking around, the provider would stop and semi cover me up until she was sure Sophie wasn't going to pop in and check on us. Sort of fun to play cat and mouse, but sort of annoying too. They've had ads on Craigslist recently saying there's a new girl. I haven't seen her, so I'm curious about her. Don't know her name. I've gotten some fun from a provider there named Linda on more than one occasion. There also used to be a woman named May, but I think she went to Chicago. There was one named Amy who was pretty cute, but Linda said Amy got fired for stealing. I never got to try out Amy alone. I did a 4 hand with Amy and Sophie. What a waste! I kind of felt like Amy may have done more if it had just been her, but Sophie was the other set of hands in the 4 hand so no action and Amy got fired before I could see her alone. If you make the trip please report back. If anyone feels particularly up to a challenge, give Sophie a try. She's cute IMO and gives a good massage. And she'll even be a little playful and flirty as long as you don't push it. I was pretty new to the hobby when I saw Sophie a few times. Maybe I'll take another run at the title one of these days. She's a hard nut to crack.

Cj357
05-01-23, 02:08
I tried lee's the other afternoon and was greeted by an older Asian woman. I paid for an hour. Massage was excellent. Just the right amount of pressure. Even massaged my hands and feet. No teasing at all. As is rubbing me after the flip, she points at my junk and asks "ok" and I noosed ok. Proceeded to give a mediocre he. After I finished she left the room to get a towel to clean me up. I would definitely return if all I was looking for was a good massage. . 60 door fee and matched with tip.

FireFly87
05-09-23, 10:50
Good morning everyone, first post here. I've hit Rongs almost regularly over the past couple of months and have not been disappointed. There has been a little bit of turn over since the beginning of the year. Lately I have seen the older woman whose name escapes me. After a couple of visits, she becomes more comfortable and the menu opens up. Their newest girl who I have seen once does wonders all around.

LikeMassage
08-21-23, 14:24
Stopped at Rongs this morning and there is yet another new girl working there. Not a bad little body. The rest. Nothing special.

Massage was no where near the last employee working there or Mamas quality. Extras were only so so. Hopefully she learns the ropes or I'll just stick with Lees.

Merlot69
08-31-23, 22:06
Stopped at Rongs this morning and there is yet another new girl working there. Not a bad little body. The rest. Nothing special.

Massage was no where near the last employee working there or Mamas quality. Extras were only so so. Hopefully she learns the ropes or I'll just stick with Lees.Any one got updates on the new girl if all she is offering is a HJ ill stay home maybe mamason will step to the rack she did for me a couple years ago not bad fun either pm me with details.

Merlot69
08-31-23, 22:09
I tried lee's the other afternoon and was greeted by an older Asian woman. I paid for an hour. Massage was excellent. Just the right amount of pressure. Even massaged my hands and feet. No teasing at all. As is rubbing me after the flip, she points at my junk and asks "ok" and I noosed ok. Proceeded to give a mediocre he. After I finished she left the room to get a towel to clean me up. I would definitely return if all I was looking for was a good massage. . 60 door fee and matched with tip.Pm me with details ill stay home if all there is a HJ.

RaulJulia
09-01-23, 21:36
I was in Holland recently with a little time to kill, which I almost never am. But I didn't know I would be ahead of time. If so, I would've tried to set something up with Lainey, who I haven't seen yet, but who's been mostly well-reviewed on this forum. However, finding myself with a bit of time and a bit of spare change, I decided to give Rong Massage a try. The only thing missing from their name is the W (as in wrong). One of my worst experiences ever. And I've been to a few different AMPs, so my expectations weren't very high. As I pulled into the parking lot, I saw a younger Asian girl going around the corner of the building and was hopeful maybe she was a provider at Rong and was going in a back entrance. Upon entering, I didn't see her anywhere, so who knows? Instead I was greeted by Mamasan and the provider. Both were older and at first it was hard to figure out who was the provider and who was Mamasan. The main difference was that Mamasan didn't dye her hair and had let the gray show through (which, in my experience, is rare for many Asian women). Anyway, I paid the door fee for hhr and we went back to the room. Massage was ok--not great, but not awful. Then on the flip, she made the universal hand gesture for HJ. I told her I wanted oral and she said "how much. " I'm really not a fan of this approach. When I go in McDonald's and tell them I want a Big Mac, they don't try to get me to tell them how much I'm willing to pay for it to see if they'll make it for me. They just ring it up and tell me what I owe. I'm a simple man. That's what I need. So, I made an offer, which she accepted. Then she left the room. I thought maybe she had to report the negotiations to Mamasan or something like that, but much to my disappointment, she had gone and gotten a condom for that most accursed of all rituals--CBJ. I just can't get into CBJ. Don't be me wrong. I'm definitely on the cautious side of most things and if I would've gone for FS, I would've insisted on it being covered. But I just wanted a reasonably decent BJ. Between the provider being older than I'd hoped, there being really no teasing or playfulness involved, and the BJ being covered, it wasn't going well. She tried, but the more she tried, the more I could feel her teeth even through the condom. So that didn't help. Eventually, we mutually agreed that she'd take the condom off and finish with a standard HE. So that was that. My one and only trip to Rong Massage.

LikeMassage
09-03-23, 12:05
Rongs is really hit or miss. I have had some very good experiences there and some of the most disappointing. It depends on the "New Girl". The younger girl you noticed does occasionally do massage there and is very good, but does not offer any extras "Massage only. " If they are busy and Mama is working she is usually a good massage and decent extras.

I was wondering if anyone had any luck anywhere besides Rongs or Lees in the Holland area. I'd like another close choice if there is one.

SuperStar2001
09-11-23, 17:33
Rongs is really hit or miss. I have had some very good experiences there and some of the most disappointing. It depends on the "New Girl". The younger girl you noticed does occasionally do massage there and is very good, but does not offer any extras "Massage only. " If they are busy and Mama is working she is usually a good massage and decent extras.

I was wondering if anyone had any luck anywhere besides Rongs or Lees in the Holland area. I'd like another close choice if there is one.Definitely a hit or miss. Paid for an hour and really wanted a massage and HE was in the books but the older lady basically had me flip after 5 min and wanted to do the HE. 15 min total and the worst massage ever. Was not a happy camper.

VegiGuy
09-12-23, 08:04
Rongs is really hit or miss. I have had some very good experiences there and some of the most disappointing. It depends on the "New Girl". The younger girl you noticed does occasionally do massage there and is very good, but does not offer any extras "Massage only. " If they are busy and Mama is working she is usually a good massage and decent extras.

I was wondering if anyone had any luck anywhere besides Rongs or Lees in the Holland area. I'd like another close choice if there is one.Been to both, the young girl at rongs gives the best massage in holland but no extras, lees has always been good all around experience. Nothing like gr but always leave relaxed and well taken care of. The only other place I know of is across from Vanweiren hardware, haven't been there but have heard it's pretty basic.

TomCfnm
10-17-23, 14:16
https://skipthegames.com/posts/grand-rapids/female-escorts/erotic-sensual-mixed-whitedomi/971111743432

This says she has a place around Holland. Has any seen her? Thanks.

BigBodyScottie
11-26-23, 22:15
I'm heading out to zeeland for a few days next week. Anyone have a good recommendation for massage with HE or more? I will have a car and can travel, but I would like to stay within 30 minutes.

I can trade info on the detroit area if you are heading this way. TIA.

WayneJWorld
11-26-23, 22:29
I'm heading out to zeeland for a few days next week. Anyone have a good recommendation for massage with HE or more? I will have a car and can travel, but I would like to stay within 30 minutes.

I can trade info on the detroit area if you are heading this way. TIA.If you're staying in Zeeland I'd check out GR. Rongs just had some issues a couple of months ago so pretty sure they are playing it pretty straight. Lees is also available but that's it.

Merlot69
11-27-23, 11:37
If you're staying in Zeeland I'd check out GR. Rongs just had some issues a couple of months ago so pretty sure they are playing it pretty straight. Lees is also available but that's it.Was posted a while ago that there was a new one in zeeland google it but don't remember the adress maybe someone else can fill in the blank spot while I ck my notes.

WaginTail
11-27-23, 19:48
Was posted a while ago that there was a new one in zeeland google it but don't remember the adress maybe someone else can fill in the blank spot while I ck my notes.The only extra you may get there is a windmill cookie.

MagicHands2
11-27-23, 20:46
The only extra you may get there is a windmill cookie.Spoken like a true local, LOL.

Magichands2.

BrentRS
11-29-23, 20:16
She has gone by the post Grand Haven. I'm wondering if anyone has seen her? Only massage in GH.

EroMan
11-29-23, 20:55
Rongs is closed! For awhile now.

JpWrong67
12-25-23, 19:44
Does anyone know were the old lady went? Inbox me the info.

RaulJulia
03-25-24, 02:39
So, are there an AMPs currently open in Holland? I Googled it and it looks like Rong may be back open. I'm not local, so just wondering. I've only had one experience at Rong and it wasn't good and it was my only time trying for some fun in Holland, but am curious if Rong has opened back up new and improved and / or if there are any other options currently. Thanks. --RJ.

WaginTail
03-28-24, 16:22
So, are there an AMPs currently open in Holland? I Googled it and it looks like Rong may be back open. I'm not local, so just wondering. I've only had one experience at Rong and it wasn't good and it was my only time trying for some fun in Holland, but am curious if Rong has opened back up new and improved and / or if there are any other options currently. Thanks. --RJ.Just drove by there today and its closed for good.

RaulJulia
03-28-24, 19:45
Just drove by there today and its closed for good.Thanks for the report. I thought it was shut down, but I had done a Google search for "massage in Holland MI" and "Asian massage in Holland MI" and it came up (so did Lee's). It still lists their business hours and says what time it opens the next day and even has a link to a website for Rong, so I thought perhaps it had reopened. Are there any AMPs or other MPs currently offering HE or more in Holland? Thanks again. --RJ.

WaginTail
04-02-24, 15:39
Thanks for the report. I thought it was shut down, but I had done a Google search for "massage in Holland MI" and "Asian massage in Holland MI" and it came up (so did Lee's). It still lists their business hours and says what time it opens the next day and even has a link to a website for Rong, so I thought perhaps it had reopened. Are there any AMPs or other MPs currently offering HE or more in Holland? Thanks again. --RJ.Only Lees and the most you will get there is a HE.

JoeHolland
04-24-24, 14:39
Since there isn't much in Holland anymore I took a drive south to Hartford. There is a new Asian Massage and I met with Anne. The massage was slow to start but when she jumped on the table putting my head between her legs I thought "this could be good". She wore a short black dress with a low top. My hands ended up her dress and I pulled out a firm boob to play with. I think the menu is pretty open.

RaulJulia
04-25-24, 13:19
Since there isn't much in Holland anymore I took a drive south to Hartford. There is a new Asian Massage and I met with Anne. The massage was slow to start but when she jumped on the table putting my head between her legs I thought "this could be good". She wore a short black dress with a low top. My hands ended up her dress and I pulled out a firm boob to play with. I think the menu is pretty open.Unless this is somewhere new that's just recently opened, I'm only aware of one AMP in Hartford. I doubt it could support more than one, but I could be wrong (I often am). It's been there a few years at least. I've been going over two years and I'm not sure how long it was there before I first went. Anyway, there used to be just one sweet, cute, older lady who gave a pretty good massage with HE. A few months back, she disappeared and there were (and still are) two younger, more attractive providers. The most I've ever been offered there was CBJ, but it's certainly possible more is available. Maybe I just haven't learned the secret handshake yet. Anyway, I'm generally not a fan of the CBJ and much prefer BBBJ, but I have to say, the two providers there now have some skills. They had an ad about a week or two ago that said "new girls. " I've been there once since that ad ran and didn't see anyone newer than the two who showed up a few months back. As always, YMMV, but that's been my experience. Oh, just a heads up for anyone going for the first time. It's literally next door to the police station. This is a bit unnerving, but as far as I can tell, it's not a problem. I have no insight beyond that, but it's been that way as long as I've been going there. --RJ.

JoeHolland
04-26-24, 10:20
Unless this is somewhere new that's just recently opened, I'm only aware of one AMP in Hartford. I doubt it could support more than one, but I could be wrong (I often am). It's been there a few years at least. I've been going over two years and I'm not sure how long it was there before I first went. Anyway, there used to be just one sweet, cute, older lady who gave a pretty good massage with HE. A few months back, she disappeared and there were (and still are) two younger, more attractive providers. The most I've ever been offered there was CBJ, but it's certainly possible more is available. Maybe I just haven't learned the secret handshake yet. Anyway, I'm generally not a fan of the CBJ and much prefer BBBJ, but I have to say, the two providers there now have some skills. They had an ad about a week or two ago that said "new girls. " I've been there once since that ad ran and didn't see anyone newer than the two who showed up a few months back. As always, YMMV, but that's been my experience. Oh, just a heads up for anyone going for the first time. It's literally next door to the police station. This is a bit unnerving, but as far as I can tell, it's not a problem. I have no insight beyond that, but it's been that way as long as I've been going there. --RJ.I was told that they opened 3 months ago. They are located right down town, is this the same one? She spoke very poor English.

RaulJulia
04-26-24, 13:26
I was told that they opened 3 months ago. They are located right down town, is this the same one? She spoke very poor English.Yes, as far as I know there's only the one AMP (or any other type of massage) in Hartford. I could be wrong, but it's a pretty small town. Asia spa is right on the main street in Hartford. As I said, right next door to the municipal center / police department. Maybe they considered it a "reopening" or something when the 2 new girls showed up, but even that I think was a bit longer than 3 months ago, though I could be wrong about that. Anyway, it's been there for over 2 years at least. It's not life changing, but not bad either. Before the new girls showed up it was your typical AMP experience (nice massage with HE finish). Now, it still is, but with slightly more offered if desired (CBJ--perhaps even more, but I've never gotten more than CBJ). I'll post the link to their STG ad below. As with all AMP ads, the women in the photos will not be the women you meet at the business.

https://skipthegames.com/posts/kalamazoo/massage/asian/new-hot-asian-girlssexy269-999/588555062717

Moonglow913
04-26-24, 15:06
Yes, as far as I know there's only the one AMP (or any other type of massage) in Hartford. I could be wrong, but it's a pretty small town. Asia spa is right on the main street in Hartford. As I said, right next door to the municipal center / police department. Maybe they considered it a "reopening" or something when the 2 new girls showed up, but even that I think was a bit longer than 3 months ago, though I could be wrong about that. Anyway, it's been there for over 2 years at least. It's not life changing, but not bad either. Before the new girls showed up it was your typical AMP experience (nice massage with HE finish). Now, it still is, but with slightly more offered if desired (CBJ--perhaps even more, but I've never gotten more than CBJ). I'll post the link to their STG ad below. As with all AMP ads, the women in the photos will not be the women you meet at the business.

https://skipthegames.com/posts/kalamazoo/massage/asian/new-hot-asian-girlssexy269-999/588555062717The ad mentions "indie special" what do you suppose that means, take out? I have had that offered a few times and offers to play before or after hours.

RaulJulia
04-26-24, 18:04
The ad mentions "indie special" what do you suppose that means, take out? I have had that offered a few times and offers to play before or after hours.I think the ad is total bullshit to be honest. I trust ads by and about AMPs about as much as I trust anything to do with the current state of US politics. Other than the fact that there's an actual AMP where they say it is and it's open for business, not much else can be trusted in AMP ads in my experience. When I was fairly new at this, I went to a couple of places that listed pretty much everything in their ads--BBBBJ, Greek, etc. And it was just the typical AMP massage with HE. So, take the ad with a grain of salt. They may offer more and who knows what they're up for if the money is right. But in my experience there, the most I've gotten is a semi-decent massage by a reasonably attractive, younger (as far as AMPs in this area go) provider with roaming allowed and CBJ finish. And I think many if not most ads by these agencies for AMPs will say pretty much anything to get guys in. Business slows a bit and they come up with a new ad. So what if they lie. What are we going to do, report them to the Better Business Bureau? That's just my two cents worth of course. As we always say, YMMV. I will say this about the place though. I'm not a fan of CBJ. I'm somewhat older and at times can be sort of slow to "get there. " So the first time I went after the new talent was there and I was offered CBJ, I thought, "What the hell? I'll give it a shot, but she's probably going to have to remove the condom and finish me by hand. " That's happened before. However, she got down to business and pretty soon, I was done. Then the next time I went, I saw the other one and I decided to see what she could do. To my surprise, she was just as good. So, I'd still take BBBJ anytime over CBJ. But at least when I see them, I know they can get the job done. OK, any more questions about Hartford that I haven't already covered, I'm happy to try to answer via PM, but I don't want guys accusing me of white knighting or saying I'm some kind of shill for this place, so I'll quit posting about it here. --RJ.

Sparty On 1234
05-19-24, 10:02
Little action left in Holland. Did not want to drive to GR and needed release. Saw Suzy at Lee's. Asian and probably in her fifties. $0. 5 for 30-minute massage. Poor quality. Better than average finish with HJ. $0. 5 tip. Let me play with her natural tits. OK at best. May return.

E1030
06-03-24, 12:32
New shop added in Holland, 587 East 8th St.

FireFly87
06-09-24, 22:02
New shop added in Holland, 587 East 8th St.Went and checked it out. Saw Ya Ya. Cut little thing. Massage was ehh, HE was great.

WaginTail
07-08-24, 19:26
Went and checked it out. Saw Ya Ya. Cut little thing. Massage was ehh, HE was great.Finally had the time to check this place out. Its in a strip center next to the Secretary of State office (in Holland). Down the line of stores from where Mama Dee used to be. Surprised to see the place busy at 10 am on a week day. 3 very attractive and young providers and the mama-son was not bad either. Don't know the name of the one that took care of me but I had the same experience. Clothes stayed on but didn't object to over the clothing roaming. Massage was mehh and HE was much above average. $60 door fee for an hour and provider was happy with the $40 tip. I definitely plan to repeat.

FireFly87
07-14-24, 20:22
Hit it up again, and drew a younger new girl. She seemed to understand and speak a little more English than the others. Massage was OK, seemed like she is still learning, but she was pleasant and seemed to enjoy it. The HE was run of the mill as well, however enjoyable. I'll peek my head in and out of there from time.

EroMan
07-23-24, 19:54
Went to check out the new place on 8th street today. Fun time with younger pretty girl. Half hour for $45 door fee. Roaming was definitely allowed. HE was very nice. Other than the wide open parking lot the place is good. I parked on the side of the building. Std tip.

FeelAlilbloo
09-02-24, 23:20
Newbie to the hobby, here. I've had two visits to this nice little place on 8th.

First time was with a young gal named Bella. Very pretty with a cute voice to match. Bella was friendly, gave a nice massage, and treated me with a simple, but enjoyable, experience on the flip. Did not discuss tip during the entire appointment. $45 for half hour + $50 tip. Will probably be my go-to here.

Second time around was with another younger lady named Lisa. Similar good looks to Bella but seemed sort of distracted during the appointment. I had a hard time reading the vibe. She also did discuss tip prior to flip which killed the mood a bit. Flip was also just a bit mechanical and paled in comparison to Bella.

Excited to make another visit once I've got some extra pocket change.

Bloo.

WaginTail
09-05-24, 16:19
Newbie to the hobby, here. I've had two visits to this nice little place on 8th.

First time was with a young gal named Bella. Very pretty with a cute voice to match. Bella was friendly, gave a nice massage, and treated me with a simple, but enjoyable, experience on the flip. Did not discuss tip during the entire appointment. $45 for half hour + $50 tip. Will probably be my go-to here.

Second time around was with another younger lady named Lisa. Similar good looks to Bella but seemed sort of distracted during the appointment. I had a hard time reading the vibe. She also did discuss tip prior to flip which killed the mood a bit. Flip was also just a bit mechanical and paled in comparison to Bella.

Excited to make another visit once I've got some extra pocket change.

Bloo.I have never seen the same gal twice, they must be rotating the crew from other parlors. Assigned Wendy today, wears a skirt and welcomed my hand up in it. She doesn't speak any English, used her phone to translate.

BrentRS
09-18-24, 14:11
I travel but thought I'd stop in Holland at A & A. Glad I did. I was met by 2 young ladies, very cordial. I gave. 6 for an hour. I had a young lady whose name I couldn't really make out. She had long black hair and a maid's uniform on. She could not speak any English, but it didn't pose a problem. She had some good skills with the massaging. I enjoyed it. I'd give her a 7 or 8 out of 10. She applied quite firm pressure, but I enjoy that. Roaming over the top is allowed. She frequently asked if she was doing OK. The hots stones were right temp, and she did well with them. My favorite part. The flip was timely. No teasing if that is an issue. The HE was very good. She was enthusiastic to make sure I could complete with verbal and body movements.

Bad Influence
10-01-24, 20:55
Stopped by this afternoon for a 30 min session with Bella. Mamasan quoted me 50 for a half hour. She was a little cautious at first, so I ran my hand up her leg to let her know what I was looking for. She's cute enough, not a stunner but not bad.

50 bucks for a 30 min rub. Very relaxing, not CM but a girlfriend massage. On the flip, she didn't ask for anything, just went for it while I rubbed her pussy. Nice. Left the other 50 for her.

Merlot69
10-05-24, 20:24
Anyboby got anything to report on these to pm me.

Merlot69
10-06-24, 10:35
Stopped by this afternoon for a 30 min session with Bella. Mamasan quoted me 50 for a half hour. She was a little cautious at first, so I ran my hand up her leg to let her know what I was looking for. She's cute enough, not a stunner but not bad.

50 bucks for a 30 min rub. Very relaxing, not CM but a girlfriend massage. On the flip, she didn't ask for anything, just went for it while I rubbed her pussy. Nice. Left the other 50 for her.So did s leave her cloths on what do you mean you rubed your leg.

SuperGenius
10-06-24, 19:53
So did s leave her cloths on what do you mean you rubed your leg.What is the name of the place?

LikeMassage
10-25-24, 19:56
There is another new place in a strip mall on the way to Zeeland. Massage was surprisingly good. Flip was standard, I didn't push as it was the first visit. Only noticed one girl. The problem with this place and I hope there is a back door or something is that the entrance is right next to the entrance for one of the more popular restaurants in the area. Anyone looking to keep a low profile will want to hit the place before the restaurant is open. PM me if you have questions.

Snowbird34
10-28-24, 21:40
So did s leave her cloths on what do you mean you rubed your leg.Had similar experience, she game me a medium pressure massage, a little rough. I payed for hour ($70), and received about 45 minutes which on the flip she was very good.

EroMan
10-29-24, 11:06
There is another new place in a strip mall on the way to Zeeland. Massage was surprisingly good. Flip was standard, I didn't push as it was the first visit. Only noticed one girl. The problem with this place and I hope there is a back door or something is that the entrance is right next to the entrance for one of the more popular restaurants in the area. Anyone looking to keep a low profile will want to hit the place before the restaurant is open. PM me if you have questions.Place is Anna's Massage. Bella from the 8th street location is there now. Enjoy!

Merlot69
11-12-24, 18:48
Place is Anna's Massage. Bella from the 8th street location is there now. Enjoy!I called yesterday they said bella was gone I was just getting her broke in any ne here where she went.

Macanudo12
11-15-24, 09:40
There is a new girl at Essential in Grand Haven, her name is Lucy, she's maybe in her 30's, nice figure and I think very pretty. Good massage, no teasing but standard finish with some roaming allowed, she used all 60 minutes too which is not as common as it used to be.

EroMan
12-04-24, 21:23
I called yesterday they said bella was gone I was just getting her broke in any ne here where she went.Bella is not gone. She is at AA on 8th. Saw her yesterday and it was awesome as always. I think when you called she went to see family for a few days.

NutsAboutButs
12-26-24, 09:12
Been a while since anything has bee posted here. Just curious if there is anything new and exciting in Holland?

WayneJWorld
12-26-24, 11:11
Been a while since anything has bee posted here. Just curious if there is anything new and exciting in Holland?The snow melted, we had sun, a lot of snow birds have left our fair city freeing up the roads. Yeah that's about it.

Member #6850
01-11-25, 23:22
I'll be in downtown Holland Monday morning. Is AA still a good stop? Is Bella who seemed quite popular a while back still there?

Member #6850
01-13-25, 23:29
Anyone seen this provider? Older but prob experienced. 8 ) She seems familiar.

https://skipthegames.com/posts/grand-rapids/female-escorts/caucasian_w/soft-sensual-massage-andor-esc/962782006730

LikeMassage
01-14-25, 17:04
Anyone seen this provider? Older but prob experienced. 8 ) She seems familiar.

https://skipthegames.com/posts/grand-rapids/female-escorts/caucasian_w/soft-sensual-massage-andor-esc/962782006730I have seen reviews in the past. I can't for the life of me remember if they were good or bad. I'd lean toward bad since I don't have personal input.

WayneJWorld
01-15-25, 08:09
Anyone seen this provider? Older but prob experienced. 8 ) She seems familiar.

https://skipthegames.com/posts/grand-rapids/female-escorts/caucasian_w/soft-sensual-massage-andor-esc/962782006730She was reviewed just a couple of times in Grand Rapids that I recall. The reviews weren't positive, she did the job and didn't rip them off. Pics are filtered.

Member #6850
01-15-25, 08:21
She was reviewed just a couple of times in Grand Rapids that I recall. The reviews weren't positive, she did the job and didn't rip them off. Pics are filtered.Thanks! I don't know how you guys find these reviews. I do the advanced searches and still can't find anything. At any rate, thanks.

WayneJWorld
01-15-25, 12:06
Thanks! I don't know how you guys find these reviews. I do the advanced searches and still can't find anything. At any rate, thanks.This site is great for finding reviews IF:

The lady uses a name, or slogan something you can specifically identify. Than you can do the regular search feature.

What I have found are the ladies who usually are subpar know it and don't put a name that can be attached to them so they can't be researched. In this case, l have a thing for big boobs, ladies that talk about certain skills that I really like. If I can't research them I just keep watching the reviews until they show up. So she was on the radar and about 6 months ago a review popped up, it was pretty lousy review and that sticks in my head.

Sometimes there is a name attached and no one reviews them. If they pique my interest I'll hold out and wait to see if there is a review, pretty soon my curiosity of a 5th grader gets the best of me and I take a chance. Most of the time it's a waste of money. Or maybe not a waste just not the best return on investment. And than I write a review.

Member #6850
01-15-25, 12:17
This site is great for finding reviews IF:

The lady uses a name, or slogan something you can specifically identify. Than you can do the regular search feature.

What I have found are the ladies who usually are subpar know it and don't put a name that can be attached to them so they can't be researched. In this case, l have a thing for big boobs, ladies that talk about certain skills that I really like. If I can't research them I just keep watching the reviews until they show up. So she was on the radar and about 6 months ago a review popped up, it was pretty lousy review and that sticks in my head.

Sometimes there is a name attached and no one reviews them. If they pique my interest I'll hold out and wait to see if there is a review, pretty soon my curiosity of a 5th grader gets the best of me and I take a chance. Most of the time it's a waste of money. Or maybe not a waste just not the best return on investment. And than I write a review.Thanks. Appreciated! Yeah, it makes it hard if there isn't anything specific in their ads.

Sandy51
01-15-25, 12:50
I think she went by the name Chris. I had seen her before Covid, and some of the pictures were old then. Nice enough lady, smelled like smoke, and was very basic, if my memory is correct. I probably gave her a basic pass on a review since nothing bad happened. I think she was located near Grand Valley at the time. I have not seen her since.

Sandy.


Anyone seen this provider? Older but prob experienced. 8 ) She seems familiar.

https://skipthegames.com/posts/grand-rapids/female-escorts/caucasian_w/soft-sensual-massage-andor-esc/962782006730

Member #6850
01-15-25, 15:08
I think she went by the name Chris. I had seen her before Covid, and some of the pictures were old then. Nice enough lady, smelled like smoke, and was very basic, if my memory is correct. I probably gave her a basic pass on a review since nothing bad happened. I think she was located near Grand Valley at the time. I have not seen her since..I can't get her to reply to text messages. Oh well.

Merlot69
01-17-25, 20:50
I can't get her to reply to text messages. Oh well.Don't wast your time she was shacked up with her sister if I remember advertized in holland had to drive allthe was to allendale waited until we were in the room and undressedand paid to tell me she had her period don't remember after that scam.

Member #6850
01-17-25, 21:27
Don't wast your time she was shacked up with her sister if I remember advertized in holland had to drive allthe was to allendale waited until we were in the room and undressedand paid to tell me she had her period don't remember after that scam.She still gets her period? She looked old enough to be done with that.

Thanks. I did indeed pass. She wouldn't answer a text anyway.

BrentRS
01-27-25, 07:17
https://skipthegames.com/posts/holland/female-escorts/caucasian_e/available-today-only---/940759268740

This is the soccer mom style lady in Grand Haven. I travel with work and on 31. I have seen about all along the way upnorth of Holland, including Holland. I'm looking for more variety.

I looked at past reviews on her, I guess they would be mediocre at best. I'm wondering if anyone has seen her more recently. If so, info on roaming, teasing and the flip / HJ would be appreciated. Thanks.

Member #6850
01-27-25, 08:12
https://skipthegames.com/posts/holland/female-escorts/caucasian_e/available-today-only---/940759268740

This is the soccer mom style lady in Grand Haven. I travel with work and on 31. I have seen about all along the way upnorth of Holland, including Holland. I'm looking for more variety.

I looked at past reviews on her, I guess they would be mediocre at best. I'm wondering if anyone has seen her more recently. If so, info on roaming, teasing and the flip / HJ would be appreciated. Thanks.Here's another one of her ads.

https://skipthegames.com/posts/grand-rapids/massage/caucasian_e/available-today-only-/074044027506

She looks pretty good.

Anyone else you've seen or recommend in the Holland area?

Mr Cruzer
01-27-25, 09:39
https://skipthegames.com/posts/holland/female-escorts/caucasian_e/available-today-only---/940759268740

This is the soccer mom style lady in Grand Haven. I travel with work and on 31. I have seen about all along the way upnorth of Holland, including Holland. I'm looking for more variety.

I looked at past reviews on her, I guess they would be mediocre at best. I'm wondering if anyone has seen her more recently. If so, info on roaming, teasing and the flip / HJ would be appreciated. Thanks.It has been about a year since I last saw her. The first few times were decent. Nice gal, pretty laid back, gets comfortable right away. Pics are accurate. The last appointment she was running late from her house cleaning day job, then had to take a shower. After a 30 min wait she was finally ready. She did all she could to keep from falling asleep, kept nodding. No formal MS training, only so-so on the massage; as much roaming as you want, no teasing, straight to an unenthused, mechanical HJ. She bitched when I left her 110, said its 100 for a 20 min MS only, that I should have left 150. Told her I spent time waiting for her to get ready, and I was there less than one hour. Overall visit was uninspired and left feeling disappointed.

BrentRS
01-29-25, 21:20
Here's another one of her ads.

https://skipthegames.com/posts/grand-rapids/massage/caucasian_e/available-today-only-/074044027506

She looks pretty good.

Anyone else you've seen or recommend in the Holland area?I have stopped at AA a couple of times but you have to leave time in between visits for new ladies / girls to come to Holland and then, ask for a new girl. Actually you can call ask and they will tell if there is a new girl. There are 2 real young ladies who are always there and if you don't ask for the new girl, those 2 will be it. IMHO a bit too young and definitely inexperienced. I think this is the training ground for the 2 young ones.

FYI: When I was at Yuan Yuan in Grandville, I connected well with one of the ladies and she told me how long she would be there yet. She then took out her phone and told when and where she would be next, at a location on 28th. So they know their schedule in advance.

Member #6850
01-29-25, 23:21
I have stopped at AA a couple of times but you have to leave time in between visits for new ladies / girls to come to Holland and then, ask for a new girl. Actually you can call ask and they will tell if there is a new girl. There are 2 real young ladies who are always there and if you don't ask for the new girl, those 2 will be it. IMHO a bit too young and definitely inexperienced. I think this is the training ground for the 2 young ones.

FYI: When I was at Yuan Yuan in Grandville, I connected well with one of the ladies and she told me how long she would be there yet. She then took out her phone and told when and where she would be next, at a location on 28th. So they know their schedule in advance.Thanks. I've been to AA off 8th Street one time and it was so, so. I should probably give it another try.

Re Yuan Yuan in Grandville, I know they advertise no extras when contacting them but if Julie is available, I've had really nice times with her. Really nice massage and better than average flip. They are really cautious there.

NutsAboutButs
02-13-25, 12:46
Just wondering if anyone has been to the location in the plaza on Lakewood lately? Anyone worth seeing there?

TomCfnm
02-23-25, 13:58
Just wondering if anyone has been to the location in the plaza on Lakewood lately? Anyone worth seeing there?I just go hh there recently, but not looking for more.

E1030
03-27-25, 09:12
I was looking for a massage in Holland. I found quite a few, one from a girl named Ebony. To me a cute girl, so I read her reviews, about a dozen of them all posted from men, and all positive. My question is does anyone if she is legit or not? Thanks for your help. A Hollander.

Mr Cruzer
03-27-25, 09:40
I was looking for a massage in Holland. I found quite a few, one from a girl named Ebony. To me a cute girl, so I read her reviews, about a dozen of them all posted from men, and all positive. My question is does anyone if she is legit or not? Thanks for your help. A Hollander.I tried her a few years back when she first started. Attractive, very pleasant, and a decent ms. However, kept me covered the whole time, never came close to any type of tease, and definitely no HE was available.

Boy Named Goo
03-28-25, 16:01
After seeing some recent posts in the escort section of STG, I imagined stopping at the AMP location at Town Center. I called ahead for an hour appointment. Was greeted by someone who appeared to be the only person working there. She appeared to be in late 40's, very slight figure, maybe 5' tall. Confirmed I was the caller and was directed to a room for the massage. Did see the ceiling had the hand-rails for back-walking but it was not offered to me. Unlike many places I've been, it was a bit warmer in the room so that was a nice change. She did put on a mask for the session. Early into the massage, we were interrupted two different times. No problem. The massage itself was decent. I asked for medium light pressure but there were times it seemed she forgot my request and I had to ask her to be more gentle (elbows hitting hard, etc.). No real intentional teasing but still some contact. Once it was time for the flip, she could see I was at attention and proceeded to try and work around things before removing the towel. She then put her finger to her lips and made a gentle shhhh noise and asked "ok? I stopped her to ask if there were additional options available. She grabbed her phone and had me ask again so it could translate. She said hand was only option (so advertising in escort section was not accurate, at least for this provider). She did allow for some light roaming over her clothing. After, there was an additional shoulder, neck and head / scalp massage. An ok experience overall. Did not ask her name. Dream cost me 70 for hr session and I added 80 tip. When working in / around Holland, I'd probably consider other options or wait to see if others have a different experience or a new person works there. Any suggestions, feel free to DM me! BNG.

https://skipthegames.com/posts/holland/female-escorts/asian/grand-opening616-308-2130new-g/023746126511

JoeHolland
04-14-25, 08:21
Any information on this provider? Offering car date might be a good way ro relive some stress. Thanks.

https://skipthegames.com/posts/holland/female-escorts/caucasian_w/freaky-tina-available-today-co/808766612791

JoeHolland
04-15-25, 18:04
There seem to be a lot of Asian massage places lately. I've gone to the one on 8th a couple of times, massage was ok girl just okay. Both times she wore pants which hurts the wondering hands. Are there better ones in GR? I went to one in Texas this winter and anything goes.

WaginTail
04-17-25, 07:54
There seem to be a lot of Asian massage places lately. I've gone to the one on 8th a couple of times, massage was ok girl just okay. Both times she wore pants which hurts the wondering hands. Are there better ones in GR? I went to one in Texas this winter and anything goes.Stopped at the 8th st location and all 4 rooms were in use. The girl at the front desk gave me a business card for the Lakewood location and directed me there. Offered to call ahead, so must be under same owner / manager.

BrentRS
05-01-25, 21:02
Unexpectedly, I have a cancellation as I was heading north with Holland being the only option. I tried AA, but not available. I thought of the one in the outlet mall but decided to try Anna's. I am glad I did. I got in within 15 minutes. I was met by a pretty late 20's lady. I got to the room and got comfortable. She came in, but comms were not possible without a translator, which worked out fine. She made sure she did what I wanted in terms of the massage. The massage was one of the best I have had. As far as teasing; a little. I patted her tush a couple of times during the massage, and she was fine with it. On the flip, she massaged and worked her way down. She asked OK and started a real good HJ, using different ways of working it. I went under her bottom and felt her bare tush. I asked OK? She said yes. I then moved to her ta tas and she pulled her bra up. Nice ta tas. Good experience and will repeat, but it is an agency so there will be rotation. She said she would be there for the next 2 weeks and told me to come and see her again. She said another lady will join next week if I want 2 girls. Best I could understand her name was Leela or close to that.

JoeHolland
05-04-25, 18:59
Unexpectedly, I have a cancellation as I was heading north with Holland being the only option. I tried AA, but not available. I thought of the one in the outlet mall but decided to try Anna's. I am glad I did. I got in within 15 minutes. I was met by a pretty late 20's lady. I got to the room and got comfortable. She came in, but comms were not possible without a translator, which worked out fine. She made sure she did what I wanted in terms of the massage. The massage was one of the best I have had. As far as teasing; a little. I patted her tush a couple of times during the massage, and she was fine with it. On the flip, she massaged and worked her way down. She asked OK and started a real good HJ, using different ways of working it. I went under her bottom and felt her bare tush. I asked OK? She said yes. I then moved to her ta tas and she pulled her bra up. Nice ta tas. Good experience and will repeat, but it is an agency so there will be rotation. She said she would be there for the next 2 weeks and told me to come and see her again. She said another lady will join next week if I want 2 girls. Best I could understand her name was Leela or close to that.Thank you for sharing. It seems the menu has gotten bigger at AMP's. What was the required tip?

There is a good AMP in Hartford that give a very good massage.