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FloridaFrosty
01-09-17, 17:58
Clarification. Not sure about now, but she has always been 5 bills PLUS outcall. Meaning add a bill if you don't have your own place.So has anyone gotten anywhere with her? I reached out and got a reply that she was still alive and well but then she wen't comms dark again. Anyone know anything? About her since mid December?
MyDarkSide
01-09-17, 23:40
So has anyone gotten anywhere with her? I reached out and got a reply that she was still alive and well but then she wen't comms dark again. Anyone know anything? About her since mid December?Had quite a bit of conversation with her a while back but couldn't mesh schedules. The delay with her emailed replies (several hours) was a frustrating hurdle. I'll take part of the blame for not locking in a specific time. I just need a bit more flexibility.
Can't figure for the life of me why these people don't pay attention!! Go figure, be safe and aware boys.
PT.
http://jacksonville.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/best-kept-secret-girl-next-door-666-4831/12093647
WhiteNite2000
01-11-17, 12:42
Can't figure for the life of me why these people don't pay attention!! Go figure, be safe and aware boys.
PT.
http://jacksonville.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/best-kept-secret-girl-next-door-666-4831/12093647Really bad meth teeth!
Can't figure for the life of me why these people don't pay attention!! Go figure, be safe and aware boys.
PT.
http://jacksonville.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/best-kept-secret-girl-next-door-666-4831/12093647Nope, spoon and needle!
Can't figure for the life of me why these people don't pay attention!! Go figure, be safe and aware boys.
PT.
http://jacksonville.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/best-kept-secret-girl-next-door-666-4831/12093647I reported on her a couple of weeks ago, too. She was probably one of the worst if not the worst provider that I have ever had the displeasure to visit. I wish that she had posted that picture prior to me seeing her. Stay very far away from her.
Can't figure for the life of me why these people don't pay attention!! Go figure, be safe and aware boys.
PT.
http://jacksonville.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/best-kept-secret-girl-next-door-666-4831/12093647Oh, and that's the motel where I visited with Brittany 21. It's sad when you start recognizing the incall locations.
Fishguy717
01-11-17, 22:53
So has anyone gotten anywhere with her? I reached out and got a reply that she was still alive and well but then she wen't comms dark again. Anyone know anything? About her since mid December?I sent her a p411 request 2-3 weeks ago, where I have plenty of 'Okays', asking for a date, and never heard back.
Member #5648
01-12-17, 00:10
Nope, spoon and needle!How stupid are these females taking pictures with their needle and spoon on the counter top?
Oh, and that's the motel where I visited with Brittany 21. It's sad when you start recognizing the incall locations.LOL. I've been toying with the idea of starting a "Name that Notell" thread. Basically someone posts a pic, then we have to figure out which incall spot it is.
So I got a few PMs what happened to her. She only did BP for a month or so. She has moved as of yesterday back to Pennsylvania. She sold her home and moved since one you mongers kept stalking her, showing up banging on her door at odd hours harassing her so she had enough that sold her house and moved LOL. She has been with a new man, got her kid back and is moving on with her life. To the person that caused her to move, good thing I guess you got Brittany D. as your live-in now, how long will that last? Too sad.
Member #5648
01-12-17, 18:35
So I got a few PMs what happened to her. She only did BP for a month or so. She has moved as of yesterday back to Pennsylvania. She sold her home and moved since one you mongers kept stalking her, showing up banging on her door at odd hours harassing her so she had enough that sold her house and moved LOL. She has been with a new man, got her kid back and is moving on with her life. To the person that caused her to move, good thing I guess you got Brittany D. Is your live-in now, how long will that last? Too sad.As I've never met anyone from the BP, it wasn't me, but why would anyone stalker a BP girl in the first place? With all the fish in the vast oceans? Wow.
MyDarkSide
01-12-17, 21:22
As I've never met anyone from the BP, it wasn't me, but why would anyone stalker a BP girl in the first place? With all the fish in the vast oceans? Wow.I'd question whether it was really a BP stalker; likely someone prior to her BP experience. Just my gut. Thrilled to hear she's doing well.
BigGameJax
01-14-17, 13:50
You guys have the ability to control the market. But you're letting it slip.
I see SW and BP and AMP posts. You're proactively tipping and paying too much.
Katie $60 for bbj! Come on now.
And that's only an example! Please regain your composure. Sorry but had to rant.
You guys have the ability to control the market. But you're letting it slip.
I see SW and BP and AMP posts. You're proactively tipping and paying too much.
Katie $60 for bbj! Come on now.
And that's only an example! Please regain your composure. Sorry but had to rant.Exactly! I would not P4 P as much if I paid what most mongers are paying. I pay Katie a dub get that same good BJ skills everyone else gets and she tosses my salad. I may tip her an extra 5. That's just one example. LOL.
Member #5349
01-14-17, 18:22
You guys have the ability to control the market. But you're letting it slip.
I see SW and BP and AMP posts. You're proactively tipping and paying too much.
Katie $60 for bbj! Come on now.
And that's only an example! Please regain your composure. Sorry but had to rant.Actually, theres more to that story with katie.
Sorry I forgot to elaborate.
http://www.xvideos.com/video25885657/katie_blowjob_and_creampie
Actually, theres more to that story with katie.
Sorry I forgot to elaborate.
http://www.xvideos.com/video25885657/katie_blowjob_and_creampieDamm dude you killed that white pussy! Well done.
C5.
Back in October there was a BP ad up of Sarah an 18 yo thick wf who was doing looking for men 18 to 28 or something like that. Black men prefered. Her ad kept changing and it was email only. It said Dom that she likes it rough. Then it said BJ only and at night only. So I contacted the ad thought it was a prank but since it was in OP I figured what the hell. I'll give it a shot.
It took like 2 weeks of emailing then texting. It was right around the time we had the storm come thru the area. A lot of very late night texting then she would go comms dark then reply days later. I was starting to think she was some kid playing games. She finally talked on the phone and she promised that she had fairly recently turn 18 and she had her I'd proof. I ended up getting her real name on accident and looked her up on FB and saw she had indeed graduated HS.
I asked her about all her different ads. Why did she have one that said she liked it rough and she told me it turned her own. I called her full of bs since she was so young. Then I asked why in the past week did it turn to head only. She said that she had like a hundred emails from men but had not been replying to most. Said that I was cute but most of her replies were of men she was not attracted to. She said she could not have all them dicks in her pussy. LOL. She required a pic with a reply.
In one of her texts she told me she was all business. Blow and go for I think she wanted like 100 for that. I told her I'm sorry that doesn't sound like something I will enjoy. Or an amount I would I would pay. She finally agreed to see me and told me to just bring what I thought was fair let's just get together already. So I met her for a car date at 3 am that morning.
So we met she was short and much heavier than the pics she sent. Later I found out that those pics were form 3 years ago LOL She was 18 now so WTF dated pics. We had good conversation for over 2 hours. So much for blow and go. I was on the fence about partaking. I had brought 80 with me but there was no way I was paying that for head only or a car date. She bragged about how good her BJ's were. And we had and how she never has sec without a condom. Oh wait we talked about how she like to be dominated too.
No talk of money at all. I got her to get naked. She eventually proves to me that she got some good head skills. Wet slow fast DT BL and spit everywhere. She gave me dome for like a half hour. I was grabbing her hair and could see it turned her own to my surprise. I reached over and grabbed her throat with one hand and leaned back the passenger seat with the other. She said Fuck me daddy so I climbed on top bb she Start moaning and getting load telling me that pussy was mine. While smashing I asked if she was serious. She said yes you can come get this pussy anythime. So I'm stroking and she keeps telling me this so I asked if I still had to pay. She said yes. LOL So I grabbed her throat and asked her again as I'm stroking and I ask her again of I had to pay for my pussy. She said no its all yours daddy. LOL And she got more into it. I finally finished CIMSwallow.
I was only there for the head. She told me to Fuck her. We talked for a little while longer. It was now light outside so I dropped her off down the street to her house I gave her 40 anyways. She told me to text her later. Thought I had a new FWB.
The End (NOT!
#MS Stories.
Sounds like you made out on the deal! Besides the old pics why put it in the woodshed?
Back in October there was a BP ad up of Sarah an 18 yo thick wf who was doing looking for men 18 to 28 or something like that. Black men prefered. Her ad kept changing and it was email only. It said Dom that she likes it rough. Then it said BJ only and at night only. So I contacted the ad thought it was a prank but since it was in OP I figured what the hell. I'll give it a shot.
It took like 2 weeks of emailing then texting. It was right around the time we had the storm come thru the area. A lot of very late night texting then she would go comms dark then reply days later. I was starting to think she was some kid playing games. She finally talked on the phone and she promised that she had fairly recently turn 18 and she had her I'd proof. I ended up getting her real name on accident and looked her up on FB and saw she had indeed graduated HS.
I asked her about all her different ads. Why did she have one that said she liked it rough and she told me it turned her own. I called her full of bs since she was so young. Then I asked why in the past week did it turn to head only. She said that she had like a hundred emails from men but had not been replying to most. Said that I was cute but most of her replies were of men she was not attracted to. She said she could not have all them dicks in her pussy. LOL. She required a pic with a reply.
In one of her texts she told me she was all business. Blow and go for I think she wanted like 100 for that. I told her I'm sorry that doesn't sound like something I will enjoy. Or an amount I would I would pay. She finally agreed to see me and told me to just bring what I thought was fair let's just get together already. So I met her for a car date at 3 am that morning.
So we met she was short and much heavier than the pics she sent. Later I found out that those pics were form 3 years ago LOL She was 18 now so WTF dated pics. We had good conversation for over 2 hours. So much for blow and go. I was on the fence about partaking. I had brought 80 with me but there was no way I was paying that for head only or a car date. She bragged about how good her BJ's were. And we had and how she never has sec without a condom. Oh wait we talked about how she like to be dominated too.
No talk of money at all. I got her to get naked. She eventually proves to me that she got some good head skills. Wet slow fast DT BL and spit everywhere. She gave me dome for like a half hour. I was grabbing her hair and could see it turned her own to my surprise. I reached over and grabbed her throat with one hand and leaned back the passenger seat with the other. She said Fuck me daddy so I climbed on top bb she Start moaning and getting load telling me that pussy was mine. While smashing I asked if she was serious. She said yes you can come get this pussy anythime. So I'm stroking and she keeps telling me this so I asked if I still had to pay. She said yes. LOL So I grabbed her throat and asked her again as I'm stroking and I ask her again of I had to pay for my pussy. She said no its all yours daddy. LOL And she got more into it. I finally finished CIMSwallow.
I was only there for the head. She told me to Fuck her. We talked for a little while longer. It was now light outside so I dropped her off down the street to her house I gave her 40 anyways. She told me to text her later. Thought I had a new FWB.
The End (NOT!
#MS Stories.
Sounds like you made out on the deal! Besides the old pics why put it in the woodshed?It's not a review of a current provider so I put it in the shed. Also I have several other stories some may want to voice their opinions.
If you think I made out on the deal wait for part two of this story.
Sarah and I continued texting the next day. I thought we were on the same page til she flip the script on me. Told me she was an escort and they make hundreds and I only gave her 40 to fuck. I was like whoa whoa. You told me head only and you made it clear before I came to see you. I was there for head til you told me to fuck you. And you just now getting on BP and don't know much about this shit. I can get a BJ for 20 all day so I figured 40 was more than fair. She had told me she only seen 3 other clients other than me. They were head only and she made 80 and up.
She was definitely not a junkie. She had just moved out of her parents and into a friends house and was looking for a job. And her friend had lost hers. She was doing late nights only to keep her roommates from knowing her business. I felt bad that she felt cheated so I wanted to talk to her in person instead text. So she agreed to see me again but told me she told me no sex. I was cool with that.
Picked her back up it was like 2 am. I thought she was going to be bitchy but she was in a good mood and we sat and talked like the first time. She was talking more about liking rough sex, being dominated and bragging about her BJ skills. The conversation was all sexual about some of everything and anything she thought of. So I said won't you show me again how good you are. She said no but was smiling. So I unzipped my pants then grabbed a fist full of her hair and said Suck it. That turned her on. Her eyes rolled back in her head and she reached over and finished undoing my pants and gave me a BJ that last seems like forever. She swallowed it all and we went back to talking for a while then I dropped her back off. No money exchange.
Text her a couple days later and she switched up on me again. Saying how she can't be sneaking around with me late at night and I'm not doing nothing for her. OMG she wants to be saved LOL. We still text for the next couple weeks. She told me life sucks for her right now. She had to do horrible thing just to pay bills and eat. That she and I hanging out again probably won't happen because we met thru BP and she is trying to completely remove any history of BP from her life. I told her I respect her decision and I wouldn't contact her again.
#MS Stories.
It's not a review of a current provider so I put it in the shed. Also I have several other stories some may want to voice their opinions.
If you think I made out on the deal wait for part two of this story.Yeah the BB part made me cringe.
Was wondering if Aubrey Tate had a discount program? 10% off your next visit if you leave positive feedback on this site or something?
Lying black assed nXXXXr.
What other color would it be? Have you been skipping your meds again?
A2
CommanderAeon
01-26-17, 10:11
I see Cuba is close to being liberated. Anyone knows if she's coming back?
She hasn't even flown the coop and mongers thinking about their dicks. If she comes back to tricking mean she is back on drugs. Give these girls some time to try to live sober.
Ace check your pm.I don't blame you for being exited Ace 😂 This site was created for a reason and you're not doing anything wrong with showing your entusiasm. Monger on! I think we can all agree though that certain replies (including this one) are best left in the Woodshed.
I don't blame you for being exited Ace 😂 This site was created for a reason and you're not doing anything wrong with showing your entusiasm. Monger on! I think we can all agree though that certain replies (including this one) are best left in the Woodshed.Actually this site is not to keep track of the ladies who are in jail. I think that if they are not available and to use social media and arrest records to keep track of them would fall into getting into their personal life. Mongers hide behind user names. What if they started keeping track of you and your personal life. Or what if they started grading mongers like we do them. Wait. Maybe they already do.
The new UI on the classified site has a forum that will be for the ladies who advertise there.
It's against the rules to post real personally identifying information if somebody does you should report that post.
A2
FloridaFrosty
01-26-17, 13:02
Was wondering if Aubrey Tate had a discount program? 10% off your next visit if you leave positive feedback on this site or something?She offers no discount of any kind for any reason. She's all business. That having been said, her business is pleasure, so suck it up, pay the freight, and enjoy yourself.).
Lying black assed nXXXXr.
What other color would it be? Have you been skipping your meds again?
A2Makes you wonder what kind of person takes time out of there day just to make a profile to post inane gibberish like this. Let me guess, loner with possibly 1-2 bodies buried in the back yard? Instead of trying to impose thier shit views on others they should just take the easy way out off of this great blue orb. Douchebags.
Actually this site is not to keep track of the ladies who are in jail. I think that if they are not available and to use social media and arrest records to keep track of them would fall into getting into their personal life. Mongers hide behind user names. What if they started keeping track of you and your personal life. Or what if they started grading mongers like we do them. Wait. Maybe they already do.
The new UI on the classified site has a forum that will be for the ladies who advertise there.
It's against the rules to post real personally identifying information if somebody does you should report that post.
A2Oh snap! That ladies will be able to dish the dirt. A2 will it be available for even mongers to read?
Ain't no fun when the rabbit got the gun LOL.
Not really, at the USASG we think that people who are involved in this need to be able to share info. We think that commercial sex workers need this for their safety.
In the not too distant future (I hope) there will be subscription level services on the forum and one of those will be private threads for guys who are subscribers so there will be a private area for mongers as well.
A2
Makes you wonder what kind of person takes time out of there day just to make a profile to post inane gibberish like this. Let me guess, loner with possibly 1-2 bodies buried in the back yard? Instead of trying to impose thier shit views on others they should just take the easy way out off of this great blue orb. Douchebags.My money is that it's an alt of Fukkazz.
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TomCat4871
02-09-17, 17:19
Tomcat dunn got schooled for the third time in his monger career.
First two times were in my Tampa days a decade ago.
(1) First, back in the day I picked up a chic on Nebraska Ave. She asked to stop at a gas station. Went in to get soda and cigs and while on line saw her walking right past the glass doors of the shop. Turns out she had rifled through my glove compartments and took $130 in cash I stupidly left there then disappeared like a bat in the night.
(2) Second was another Nebraska pick up that guided me to the back of an apartment complex and proceeded to rob me by pulling out my car key and grabbing my wallet saying I was being watched from the shadows. Didn't want any trouble and didn't know if she actually was being watched / guarded else I would have Rocky Balboa'd her right in the kisser. Avoided car dates after that.
(3) 3rd was this Jax kunt who asked me to give her some minutes so she can call her brother in jail. She managed to hold on to my credit card number and now today I see $525 in inmate phone charges going back to NOV. Called the CC and got the charges cancelled. Going to ask her to settle the score in airline mileage points on her pussy.
Go ahead and raz me guys. I deserve this one.
Tomcat dunn got schooled for the third time in his monger career.
First two times were in my Tampa days a decade ago.
(1) First, back in the day I picked up a chic on Nebraska Ave. She asked to stop at a gas station. Went in to get soda and cigs and while on line saw her walking right past the glass doors of the shop. Turns out she had rifled through my glove compartments and took $130 in cash I stupidly left there then disappeared like a bat in the night.
(2) Second was another Nebraska pick up that guided me to the back of an apartment complex and proceeded to rob me by pulling out my car key and grabbing my wallet saying I was being watched from the shadows. Didn't want any trouble and didn't know if she actually was being watched / guarded else I would have Rocky Balboa'd her right in the kisser. Avoided car dates after that.
(3) 3rd was this Jax kunt who asked me to give her some minutes so she can call her brother in jail. She managed to hold on to my credit card number and now today I see $525 in inmate phone charges going back to NOV. Called the CC and got the charges cancelled. Going to ask her to settle the score in airline mileage points on her pussy.
Go ahead and raz me guys. I deserve this one.Oh she's my FB friend also. She was a tad too eager for me to pick her up so I got a bad feeling and cancelled. Sorry man!
TomCat4871
02-10-17, 02:44
She was an extremely awkward DFE anyway. 2 many rules, no kiss, no doggy, no this, no that.
Clearly pulling in a few guys on the low low out of necessity. Maybe time will season her. Noticed she posted on BP a single time around the holidays.
Oh she's my FB friend also. She was a tad too eager for me to pick her up so I got a bad feeling and cancelled. Sorry man!
I am interested to hear everyone's thoughts on this, but here is how I proect my money with these chicks.
1. I only carry in the exact amount I need.
2. I put part of the cash in my front pocket and flash this to her when she ask for the money up front.
3. I put the rest of the money somewhere else, like in another pocket, or hidden in an inside jacket pocket.
4. I do not take in anything else, no phone, no wallet. I don't even need my keys because my vehicle has a key pad.
5. I tell her I will pay her afterwards because I have heard of girls robbing guys, if she refuses, I start to leave. Most of the tme they give in before I leave. In fact I have never had one let me leave. They want the money.
6. After we do the LEO check on each other, then I explain exactly what I want. If there is any upselling it happens then.
If it is a car date, then I keep part of the money in the center console and the rest hidden elsewhere. I also decide the parking spot not her, she could have someone waiting to rob me at her spot.
Bottom line, I always pay afterwards.
WhiteNite2000
02-10-17, 13:06
I am interested to hear everyone's thoughts on this, but here is how I proect my money with these chicks.
1. I only carry in the exact amount I need.
2. I put part of the cash in my front pocket and flash this to her when she ask for the money up front.
3. I put the rest of the money somewhere else, like in another pocket, or hidden in an inside jacket pocket.
4. I do not take in anything else, no phone, no wallet. I don't even need my keys because my vehicle has a key pad.
5. I tell her I will pay her afterwards because I have heard of girls robbing guys, if she refuses, I start to leave. Most of the tme they give in before I leave. In fact I have never had one let me leave. They want the money.
6. After we do the LEO check on each other, then I explain exactly what I want. If there is any upselling it happens then.
If it is a car date, then I keep part of the money in the center console and the rest hidden elsewhere. I also decide the parking spot not her, she could have someone waiting to rob me at her spot.
Bottom line, I always pay afterwards.You might want to reconsider the phone point of view. Years ago, I went to see this girl (so I thought). As I walked up to the door which someone had opened (not her I later found out because she was never there), as I looked inside (without going all the way in), one of her home boys put a gun right in my face. I took off running so fast yelling that someone was trying to rob me. I was so concerned that, while running, I'd get shot in the back that I kept going till I reached some folks houses begging them to call the police. I left my phone in the car and this is why I had to ask people to call the cops. Now, if I had my phone, I wouldn't have had to make such a request, though I would have continued yelling just to throw them off guard. Actually I surprised them with the way I reacted. I guess they thought I'd stand there but as I mentioned, I ran yelling / screaming! Anyway, point is, with some of the shady areas we have to visit, I'd rather have my phone and ole Smith with me in case I need to call for help. A kid did come outside and gave me house phone and I called 911 and 4 cruisers came. It was so embarrassing! My recommendation, take that phone with you as you might need it as I did. Just my $0. 02.
Since I don't want LEO or anyone else knowing my home IP address which can easily be tracked. The Tor Browser will route you through a random proxy around the world so your IP will never be the same and YOU will stay anonymous.
The browser is free to download and use. No adware that I can see either.
Description from their site:
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Tor Browser lets you use Tor on Windows, Mac OS X, or Linux without needing to install any software. It can run off a USB flash drive, comes with a pre-configured web browser to protect your anonymity, and is self-contained (portable).
https://www.torproject.org/projects/torbrowser.html.en
Stay Safe!
While I am never one to suggest less security in these tinfoil hat wearing times, I gotta say that "easily be tracked" is a misnomer. IP addy's can be cracked but there's nothing easy about it, it takes a warrant. IP addies can be obtained with a sniffer program but then one needs to track that addy back to a person at a time and there's not a tool for that, they need to crack the account database of your IP provider. Those guys have monster fucking security.
A2
TomCat4871
02-15-17, 03:05
I'm working on this one and just wanted to see if the face rings a bell whether it be from BP or the streets.
Will report back if I score.
Pooty Tang
02-15-17, 08:47
I'm working on this one and just wanted to see if the face rings a bell whether it be from BP or the streets.
Will report back if I score.Can't remember her name for the life of me. She used to be on BP all the time. Worked out of her town house off Blanding near the dealerships. Had a baby, then disappeared. Has some lovely bolt ons.
JaxBusinessMan
02-15-17, 09:23
What's her number or how can I find her.
Sarah and I continued texting the next day. I thought we were on the same page til she flip the script on me. Told me she was an escort and they make hundreds and I only gave her 40 to fuck. I was like whoa whoa. You told me head only and you made it clear before I came to see you. I was there for head til you told me to fuck you. And you just now getting on BP and don't know much about this shit. I can get a BJ for 20 all day so I figured 40 was more than fair. She had told me she only seen 3 other clients other than me. They were head only and she made 80 and up.
She was definitely not a junkie. She had just moved out of her parents and into a friends house and was looking for a job. And her friend had lost hers. She was doing late nights only to keep her roommates from knowing her business. I felt bad that she felt cheated so I wanted to talk to her in person instead text. So she agreed to see me again but told me she told me no sex. I was cool with that.
Picked her back up it was like 2 am. I thought she was going to be bitchy but she was in a good mood and we sat and talked like the first time. She was talking more about liking rough sex, being dominated and bragging about her BJ skills. The conversation was all sexual about some of everything and anything she thought of. So I said won't you show me again how good you are. She said no but was smiling. So I unzipped my pants then grabbed a fist full of her hair and said Suck it. That turned her on. Her eyes rolled back in her head and she reached over and finished undoing my pants and gave me a BJ that last seems like forever. She swallowed it all and we went back to talking for a while then I dropped her back off. No money exchange.
Text her a couple days later and she switched up on me again. Saying how she can't be sneaking around with me late at night and I'm not doing nothing for her. OMG she wants to be saved LOL. We still text for the next couple weeks. She told me life sucks for her right now. She had to do horrible thing just to pay bills and eat. That she and I hanging out again probably won't happen because we met thru BP and she is trying to completely remove any history of BP from her life. I told her I respect her decision and I wouldn't contact her again.
#MS Stories.
What's her number or how can I find her.WTF? No! If I said I would respect her decision then why would you think I would give out her info?
Member #5648
02-15-17, 12:06
I'm working on this one and just wanted to see if the face rings a bell whether it be from BP or the streets.
Will report back if I score.I'd swear that I know her face from a webpage, but can't remember which. Looks like a older provider but not a crackhead.
I'm working on this one and just wanted to see if the face rings a bell whether it be from BP or the streets.
Will report back if I score.Isn't that Katie, think that's what's she went by.
Member #5648
02-15-17, 12:14
Isn't that Katie, think that's what's she went by.Honestly, I totally forgot that they SHUT DOWN the BP escorts due to alleged prostitution and now ALL of the females are listed as WOMEN looking for MEN (Right? Go figure!) Same shit different title!
I'm working on this one and just wanted to see if the face rings a bell whether it be from BP or the streets.
Will report back if I score.Does she have an ad someplace? I really like her look.
TomCat4871
02-15-17, 17:15
Unless it was a different Katie.
But this is not the "Russian" / "Colombian" / or "insert made up ethnicity" Katie that wouldn't shut up during a session but had a nice figure.
That one I saw once before she hit the streets.
Isn't that Katie, think that's what's she went by.
Unless it was a different Katie.
But this is not the "Russian" / "Colombian" / or "insert made up ethnicity" Katie that wouldn't shut up during a session but had a nice figure.
That one I saw once before she hit the streets.That's the one I was thinking of, the one that was from a different country every day, and always ask you if you thought she was pretty.
That's the one I was thinking of, the one that was from a different country every day, and always ask you if you thought she was pretty.Dude what is your obsession with "Katie" Courtney?
Dude what is your obsession with "Katie" Courtney?I don't have one I thought we was discussing the picture the other guy posted.
Mastah Blastah
02-17-17, 00:00
Sarah and I continued texting the next day. I thought we were on the same page til she flip the script on me. Told me she was an escort and they make hundreds and I only gave her 40 to fuck. I was like whoa whoa. You told me head only and you made it clear before I came to see you. I was there for head til you told me to fuck you. And you just now getting on BP and don't know much about this shit. I can get a BJ for 20 all day so I figured 40 was more than fair. She had told me she only seen 3 other clients other than me. They were head only and she made 80 and up.
She was definitely not a junkie. She had just moved out of her parents and into a friends house and was looking for a job. And her friend had lost hers. She was doing late nights only to keep her roommates from knowing her business. I felt bad that she felt cheated so I wanted to talk to her in person instead text. So she agreed to see me again but told me she told me no sex. I was cool with that.
Picked her back up it was like 2 am. I thought she was going to be bitchy but she was in a good mood and we sat and talked like the first time. She was talking more about liking rough sex, being dominated and bragging about her BJ skills. The conversation was all sexual about some of everything and anything she thought of. So I said won't you show me again how good you are. She said no but was smiling. So I unzipped my pants then grabbed a fist full of her hair and said Suck it. That turned her on. Her eyes rolled back in her head and she reached over and finished undoing my pants and gave me a BJ that last seems like forever. She swallowed it all and we went back to talking for a while then I dropped her back off. No money exchange.
Text her a couple days later and she switched up on me again. Saying how she can't be sneaking around with me late at night and I'm not doing nothing for her. OMG she wants to be saved LOL. We still text for the next couple weeks. She told me life sucks for her right now. She had to do horrible thing just to pay bills and eat. That she and I hanging out again probably won't happen because we met thru BP and she is trying to completely remove any history of BP from her life. I told her I respect her decision and I wouldn't contact her again.
#MS Stories.She only seen 3 clients and made hundreds?
How did you find this little gem?
She only seen 3 clients and made hundreds?
How did you find this little gem?She said Escorts make hundreds. She was looking to make big money but had no clue about BP in general. She wanted to be choosy with the clients she saw. Said if she not attracted to them she wasn't going to see them. She didn't last long as a hooker.
I found her on BP back in October just like I have found several gems on BP just by contacting ads with no pics or ads that only posted for a very short time. Sarah I wouldn't consider a gem. But the others were definitely much better looking that our normal BP line up.
Bobb Sledd
02-21-17, 05:01
Is it just me or does anyone else find these consecutive and hugely similar reviews in the BP section suspicious? Posted only seven minutes apart.
I met this one the other day by chance, turns out she has been reviewd here before, slandered, sabatoged, called a thief. My exerience was way dfft. Cool chic, sttractive, skilled, personable. I had a great time, no rush, covered, easy set up, 120 hh, and time flew by. No bs. Now I'm not trying to prop her up, I'm giving my experience, and felt necessary to post. As always YMMV.
http://jacksonville.backpage.com/WomenSeekMen/come-get-your-monday-on-904-589-3559/12819542
I met this one the other day, out of the blue. I know alot has been said and written about, and sabotaged in thepast, but I got to tell ya. She was chill with me, attractive, skilled, and peronsable. I'm seeting the record straight from my perspective, and as always YMMV. But I will return. 120 hh no rush, easy set up.
http://jacksonville.backpage.com/WomenSeekMen/come-get-your-monday-on-904-589-3559/12819542
JustACbtGuy
02-21-17, 06:41
Is it just me or does anyone else find these consecutive and hugely similar reviews in the BP section suspicious? Posted only seven minutes apart.I'm going with "suspicious" since they are clones and one account has all of two posts.
All I get out of it is "Danger Will Robinson! Danger! Danger!
Stewie Griffin
02-21-17, 09:25
Is it just me or does anyone else find these consecutive and hugely similar reviews in the BP section suspicious? Posted only seven minutes apart.Best part of the review is that is about a girl who to my knowledge has NEVER gotten a postive review on this site. But I guess that was just slander. LOL.
Back in October there was a BP ad up of Sarah an 18 yo thick wf who was doing looking for men 18 to 28 or something like that. Black men prefered. Her ad kept changing and it was email only. It said Dom that she likes it rough. Then it said BJ only and at night only. So I contacted the ad thought it was a prank but since it was in OP I figured what the hell. I'll give it a shot.
It took like 2 weeks of emailing then texting. It was right around the time we had the storm come thru the area. A lot of very late night texting then she would go comms dark then reply days later. I was starting to think she was some kid playing games. She finally talked on the phone and she promised that she had fairly recently turn 18 and she had her I'd proof. I ended up getting her real name on accident and looked her up on FB and saw she had indeed graduated HS.
I asked her about all her different ads. Why did she have one that said she liked it rough and she told me it turned her own. I called her full of bs since she was so young. Then I asked why in the past week did it turn to head only. She said that she had like a hundred emails from men but had not been replying to most. Said that I was cute but most of her replies were of men she was not attracted to. She said she could not have all them dicks in her pussy. LOL. She required a pic with a reply.
In one of her texts she told me she was all business. Blow and go for I think she wanted like 100 for that. I told her I'm sorry that doesn't sound like something I will enjoy. Or an amount I would I would pay. She finally agreed to see me and told me to just bring what I thought was fair let's just get together already. So I met her for a car date at 3 am that morning.
So we met she was short and much heavier than the pics she sent. Later I found out that those pics were form 3 years ago LOL She was 18 now so WTF dated pics. We had good conversation for over 2 hours. So much for blow and go. I was on the fence about partaking. I had brought 80 with me but there was no way I was paying that for head only or a car date. She bragged about how good her BJ's were. And we had and how she never has sec without a condom. Oh wait we talked about how she like to be dominated too.
No talk of money at all. I got her to get naked. She eventually proves to me that she got some good head skills. Wet slow fast DT BL and spit everywhere. She gave me dome for like a half hour. I was grabbing her hair and could see it turned her own to my surprise. I reached over and grabbed her throat with one hand and leaned back the passenger seat with the other. She said Fuck me daddy so I climbed on top bb she Start moaning and getting load telling me that pussy was mine. While smashing I asked if she was serious. She said yes you can come get this pussy anythime. So I'm stroking and she keeps telling me this so I asked if I still had to pay. She said yes. LOL So I grabbed her throat and asked her again as I'm stroking and I ask her again of I had to pay for my pussy. She said no its all yours daddy. LOL And she got more into it. I finally finished CIMSwallow.
I was only there for the head. She told me to Fuck her. We talked for a little while longer. It was now light outside so I dropped her off down the street to her house I gave her 40 anyways. She told me to text her later. Thought I had a new FWB.
The End (NOT!
#MS Stories.http://jacksonville.backpage.com/WomenSeekMen/hot-horny-snowbunny/13153962
Jaunty Plow
02-23-17, 14:01
Maybe a few favorites (or not so favorite) got picked up. Kylee, Mandy. Cannot connect the others.
ChaChaCoo411
02-23-17, 16:32
Maybe a few favorites (or not so favorite) got picked up. Kylee, Mandy. Cannot connect the others.I was wondering is any news released? If not, I am curious of how to obtain this kinda of info.
Is the Mandy you mention is the thief Mandy? I have seen her posts on BP several times per day recently but it stops. So I am guessing she's got picked up.
Jaunty Plow
02-24-17, 09:41
I was wondering is any news released? If not, I am curious of how to obtain this kinda of info.
Is the Mandy you mention is the thief Mandy? I have seen her posts on BP several times per day recently but it stops. So I am guessing she's got picked up.This is all public knowledge, through the JSO website. For this particular message, there was no public announcements. And the only thing I will confirm is that yes, a thief has been apprehended.
Remember all parties are innocent until proven guilty in a court of law.
KoolBreeze
02-24-17, 10:04
Maybe a few favorites (or not so favorite) got picked up. Kylee, Mandy. Cannot connect the others.Mandy is already out. Look like she was released after First Appearance.
Gustav Klimpt
03-18-17, 23:57
If you ever see this girl walking down Beach Blvd between Hodges and San Pablo you may want to offer her a ride. Just say "Hey Michelle how are you, can I buy you a smoothie". She is a nice girl but completely in outer space. We drove around with her talking about butterflies, zebras and moonbeans. I spent an hour cruising around the beach with her and was rewarded for my patience and kindness. Buy her a pack of smokes and be a kind person. That and a mango smoothie king was about it out of pocket. Took a pic of the back of her head in the car with the only view I had.
MouthHunter
03-19-17, 09:18
If you ever see this girl walking down Beach Blvd between Hodges and San Pablo you may want to offer her a ride. Just say "Hey Michelle how are you, can I buy you a smoothie". She is a nice girl but completely in outer space. We drove around with her talking about butterflies, zebras and moonbeans. I spent an hour cruising around the beach with her and was rewarded for my patience and kindness. Buy her a pack of smokes and be a kind person. That and a mango smoothie king was about it out of pocket. Took a pic of the back of her head in the car with the only view I had.He woke up and she was sucking his dick and telling him how she was in love with him. He took. Ack down beach and spun her around a few times so she couldn't find her way back to his place.
If you ever see this girl walking down Beach Blvd between Hodges and San Pablo you may want to offer her a ride. Just say "Hey Michelle how are you, can I buy you a smoothie". She is a nice girl but completely in outer space. We drove around with her talking about butterflies, zebras and moonbeans. I spent an hour cruising around the beach with her and was rewarded for my patience and kindness. Buy her a pack of smokes and be a kind person. That and a mango smoothie king was about it out of pocket. Took a pic of the back of her head in the car with the only view I had.Good at sucking cock?
Member #6124
03-26-17, 08:26
If you ever see this girl walking down Beach Blvd between Hodges and San Pablo you may want to offer her a ride. Just say "Hey Michelle how are you, can I buy you a smoothie". She is a nice girl but completely in outer space. We drove around with her talking about butterflies, zebras and moonbeans. I spent an hour cruising around the beach with her and was rewarded for my patience and kindness. Buy her a pack of smokes and be a kind person. That and a mango smoothie king was about it out of pocket. Took a pic of the back of her head in the car with the only view I had.I live pretty close and see her often, sometimes at night, other times I have seen her at 3 pm. She looks very pregnant. Isn't she?
ASailorHobby12
03-29-17, 05:10
So I been dormant in the group for a while because we'll was on deployment got hurt and was shipped back after surgery on my back and knee I'm now being medically retired and well before I go I want to have one last thrill in Jax and really need you guys help to choose BP / AMP last I tried AMP it was no lunch but they feel safer to me (but more expensive) and well BP is a shell of it's former self from what I can see so any help for this sailor will be appreciated.
LuckyGandor
04-20-17, 18:53
I was doing some rounds in Facebook and checked in with some old flashes in the pan. Happened upon Brittany D. She stopped BP when she got a old sugar daddy. Apparently he showered her with gifts and trips and apparently they even got married. !!!
But he was also banging hookers on the side the whole time cause you know, that's how he found Brittany D. And now they're getting divorced.
Sad!
Old School
04-20-17, 19:12
I was doing some rounds in Facebook and checked in with some old flashes in the pan. Happened upon Brittany D. She stopped BP when she got a old sugar daddy. Apparently he showered her with gifts and trips and apparently they even got married. !!!
But he was also banging hookers on the side the whole time cause you know, that's how he found Brittany D. And now they're getting divorced.
Sad!You can't turn a Monger into a husband.
Geez!
I was doing some rounds in Facebook and checked in with some old flashes in the pan. Happened upon Brittany D. She stopped BP when she got a old sugar daddy. Apparently he showered her with gifts and trips and apparently they even got married. !!!
But he was also banging hookers on the side the whole time cause you know, that's how he found Brittany D. And now they're getting divorced.
Sad!Sounds like she will be back on the market soon. LOL. I know one of the side girls he was seeing the whole time. Maybe she thought he was different than the rest. Haha.
Sounds like she will be back on the market soon. LOL. I know one of the side girls he was seeing the whole time. Maybe she thought he was different than the rest. Haha.She's going to get paid from the divorce so she may not need BP money for a while. Unless the SD was smart enough to have a prenup. But he married a hooker so I doubt he was that smart.
She's going to get paid from the divorce so she may not need BP money for a while. Unless the SD was smart enough to have a prenup. But he married a hooker so I doubt he was that smart.They were married for less than a year (not sure but you only get half of what the other made while you were married? Not sure about 401 K / pension though), granted he makes over 100 K a year, but she will likely blow thru that quick, she is not mature and he was taking her to the methadone clinic daily when he moved her in with him, she will likely fall off the wagon if she hasn't already.
They were married for less than a year (not sure but you only get half of what the other made while you were married? Not sure about 401 K / pension though)Not sure about any pension but 401 (k) s are driven by the named beneficiary. The annals are filled with guys who married, divorced, remarried and then when he died wife number 2 found out he failed to change the beneficiary and wife 1 got the proceeds. Strange but true.
She's going to get paid from the divorce so she may not need BP money for a while. Unless the SD was smart enough to have a prenup. But he married a hooker so I doubt he was that smart.All women think they can get half in any divorce. I don't think that marriage even lasted a year. I don't think she is legally entitled to jack shit.
Jaxlooker1
04-21-17, 12:47
You can't turn a Monger into a husband.
Geez!Yep, it won't be long before she is available. I've tapped it while married!
WhiteNite2000
04-21-17, 13:27
All women think they can get half in any divorce. I don't think that marriage even lasted a year. I don't think she is legally entitled to jack shit.It used to be that you had to be married at least 10 years in Florida to get anything. Also, she would have had to been in a certain lifestyle for a period of time- which she was not. I think the husband should be fine. No alimony for you Felicia!
Note:
If a court awards permanent alimony in a short-term marriage (a marriage under 7 years long), there must be documented exceptional circumstances. An award of permanent alimony for a moderate-term marriage (between 7 and 17 years) must be supported by “clear and convincing evidence.”
Handicapper
04-21-17, 18:29
It used to be that you had to be married at least 10 years in Florida to get anything. Also, she would have had to been in a certain lifestyle for a period of time- which she was not. I think the husband should be fine. No alimony for you Felicia!
Note:
If a court awards permanent alimony in a short-term marriage (a marriage under 7 years long), there must be documented exceptional circumstances. An award of permanent alimony for a moderate-term marriage (between 7 and 17 years) must be supported by clear and convincing evidence.The guy could drag a divorce on for a long time. He will wave a couple grand at her and say take it and sign the papers or give her nothing and show her a copy of her arrest record, copies of BP ads, and threaten he will have an undercover spy follow her. Basically, she will take the quick money.
Assuming you already have the pics saved to your pc, underneath where you type your post, you'll see 'manage attachments'.
They do have size limitations, those are listed at the bottom.
Click that, and you'll be able to browse to the folder you have your pics in, and upload them. You can also link to one on a website, just below that.Yah that's what I tried before but no dice. Ill try it the next time I need to I guess.
The guy could drag a divorce on for a long time. He will wave a couple grand at her and say take it and sign the papers or give her nothing and show her a copy of her arrest record, copies of BP ads, and threaten he will have an undercover spy follow her. Basically, she will take the quick money.The guy makes 100 k per year, that's BAD not good. You think her lawyer will be charging her per hour like his? Women rule when it comes to divorce, don't believe me look at the sea of cases of athletes, movie stars, CEOs, million / billionaires that get taken to the cleaners, and some guy making 100 k (who married an escort) will outsmart them all?
A: The state does not see divorce as a question of morality / fairness, its about two parties going their separate ways and one being entitled to half. The state and the lawyers get a big chunk of money if he loses, but get nothing if he wins.
1) Arrest don't mean squat, unless its a child custody issue. (Please refer to sentence A).
2) BP ads don't mean squat, he married her despite knowing what she did. Remember BP ads don't mean sex for money, it just means escorting (Which is legal). Even if you prove it was sex for money (something the guy would have to admit to doing) , its like saying your ex-wife jaywalked, that's for a different court, not family / divorce court. (For reference reread sentence A).
3) Dragging a divorce on won't help, women get contingency lawyers (won't pay till she wins) its men who pay by the hour, AND her lawyers will try to have the guy pay her legal fees anyways.
4) Having a undercover spy won't mean shit, unless he follows her to her room when he films the ex-wife having sex for money. But guess what, it still doesn't mean squat. This isn't child custody, this is a divorce, the judge won't say she's not entitled to anything because of morals (Please refer to sentence A).
5) Saying she did / does drugs doesn't mean squat, especially when the husband known and even helped her get the stuff, again morals / different court. (Please refer to sentence A).
6) If he cheated on her with hookers hes the one who operated in bad faith, under normal circumstances the guy would be screwed during a divorce, but its even worse if she was operating in good faith in the marriage while the guy wasn't. Even though they weren't married long, if she can prove his infidelity, the court will see it as "She would have stayed married longer had you been faithful, this is not just a gold digger looking to cash out.
7) As soon as she lawyers up no "quick money" is going to help him, don't believe me? http://abcnews.go.com/Business/wife-rejects-975m-personal-check-billionaire-oilman-harold-hamm/story?id=28055210.
8) Assuming there was a prenup, that can and most likely will be thrown out by the judge. Her lawyer will argue that it was signed under duress, again look at all the millionaires / billionaires that get taken to the cleaners, you think they didn't have prenups?
When you spend enough time on MGTOW forums and hear the horror stories of divorce you know what to expect, that judge, the state, the laws, her lawyer, and even his lawyer benefits when he losses. Don't believe me look at the statistics.
Old School
04-22-17, 11:23
The guy makes 100 k per year, that's BAD not good. You think her lawyer will be charging her per hour like his? Women rule when it comes to divorce, don't believe me look at the sea of cases of athletes, movie stars, CEOs, million / billionaires that get taken to the cleaners, and some guy making 100 k (who married an escort) will outsmart them all?
A: The state does not see divorce as a question of morality / fairness, its about two parties going their separate ways and one being entitled to half. The state and the lawyers get a big chunk of money if he loses, but get nothing if he wins.
1) Arrest don't mean squat, unless its a child custody issue. (Please refer to sentence A).
2) BP ads don't mean squat, he married her despite knowing what she did. Remember BP ads don't mean sex for money, it just means escorting (Which is legal). Even if you prove it was sex for money (something the guy would have to admit to doing) , its like saying your ex-wife jaywalked, that's for a different court, not family / divorce court. (For reference reread sentence A).
3) Dragging a divorce on won't help, women get contingency lawyers (won't pay till she wins) its men who pay by the hour, AND her lawyers will try to have the guy pay her legal fees anyways.
4) Having a undercover spy won't mean shit, unless he follows her to her room when he films the ex-wife having sex for money. But guess what, it still doesn't mean squat. This isn't child custody, this is a divorce, the judge won't say she's not entitled to anything because of morals (Please refer to sentence A).
5) Saying she did / does drugs doesn't mean squat, especially when the husband known and even helped her get the stuff, again morals / different court. (Please refer to sentence A).
6) If he cheated on her with hookers hes the one who operated in bad faith, under normal circumstances the guy would be screwed during a divorce, but its even worse if she was operating in good faith in the marriage while the guy wasn't. Even though they weren't married long, if she can prove his infidelity, the court will see it as "She would have stayed married longer had you been faithful, this is not just a gold digger looking to cash out.
7) As soon as she lawyers up no "quick money" is going to help him, don't believe me? http://abcnews.go.com/Business/wife-rejects-975m-personal-check-billionaire-oilman-harold-hamm/story?id=28055210.
8) Assuming there was a prenup, that can and most likely will be thrown out by the judge. Her lawyer will argue that it was signed under duress, again look at all the millionaires / billionaires that get taken to the cleaners, you think they didn't have prenups?
When you spend enough time on MGTOW forums and hear the horror stories of divorce you know what to expect, that judge, the state, the laws, her lawyer, and even his lawyer benefits when he losses. Don't believe me look at the statistics.Bottom line, know the Law for your state and situation.
Yes, Florida is a no-fault state but each divorce has its own circumstances and uniqueness. However, the "FAULT" whatever it may be can affect Alimony and custody decisions in some cases. Someone mentioned 10 years and 50 %, I always SMH when I hear this. What I am talking about deals with military retirement pay.
Two misnomers with the division of military retirement pay is:
1. You must be married at least 10 years.
2. She gets half your pay.
The 10-year rule is used to determine who pays the spouse. If married less than 10 years the spouse is not entitled to receive alimony directly from the military. Less than 10 years but qualified for alimony the retiring member would pay the alimony directly and / or as set up by the Court. Married 10 years or more the military Defense Financing and Accounting Service pays the alimony directly to the spouse from the member's retirement.
Fifty percent (50%) the law simply states, she / he can be awarded up to 50%. In a military member case, that percentage is determined by a calculation. Again, speaking only of my situation. Although my divorce did not end many years pass 10 years, my lawyer ended the marriage when we stopped being physically involved (sex). It made a huge difference in the outcome and I don't miss it.
I learned a lot about the divorce court system, I got burnt by not following an order to the letter. I then used their own logic to win a decision. My lawyer did not want to bring the matter before the judge but I requested a hearing and the judge agreed with me. It was a simple matter of what the Order said and did not say and my ex's lawyer wanted me to pay something that was NOT clearly defined in the order.
It is pointless to argue the Monger vs. BP Girl case when we do not know every circumstance.
WhiteNite2000
04-22-17, 13:03
The guy makes 100 k per year, that's BAD not good. You think her lawyer will be charging her per hour like his? Women rule when it comes to divorce, don't believe me look at the sea of cases of athletes, movie stars, CEOs, million / billionaires that get taken to the cleaners, and some guy making 100 k (who married an escort) will outsmart them all?
A: The state does not see divorce as a question of morality / fairness, its about two parties going their separate ways and one being entitled to half. The state and the lawyers get a big chunk of money if he loses, but get nothing if he wins.
1) Arrest don't mean squat, unless its a child custody issue. (Please refer to sentence A).
2) BP ads don't mean squat, he married her despite knowing what she did. Remember BP ads don't mean sex for money, it just means escorting (Which is legal). Even if you prove it was sex for money (something the guy would have to admit to doing) , its like saying your ex-wife jaywalked, that's for a different court, not family / divorce court. (For reference reread sentence A).
3) Dragging a divorce on won't help, women get contingency lawyers (won't pay till she wins) its men who pay by the hour, AND her lawyers will try to have the guy pay her legal fees anyways.
4) Having a undercover spy won't mean shit, unless he follows her to her room when he films the ex-wife having sex for money. But guess what, it still doesn't mean squat. This isn't child custody, this is a divorce, the judge won't say she's not entitled to anything because of morals (Please refer to sentence A).
5) Saying she did / does drugs doesn't mean squat, especially when the husband known and even helped her get the stuff, again morals / different court. (Please refer to sentence A).
6) If he cheated on her with hookers hes the one who operated in bad faith, under normal circumstances the guy would be screwed during a divorce, but its even worse if she was operating in good faith in the marriage while the guy wasn't. Even though they weren't married long, if she can prove his infidelity, the court will see it as "She would have stayed married longer had you been faithful, this is not just a gold digger looking to cash out.
7) As soon as she lawyers up no "quick money" is going to help him, don't believe me? http://abcnews.go.com/Business/wife-rejects-975m-personal-check-billionaire-oilman-harold-hamm/story?id=28055210.
8) Assuming there was a prenup, that can and most likely will be thrown out by the judge. Her lawyer will argue that it was signed under duress, again look at all the millionaires / billionaires that get taken to the cleaners, you think they didn't have prenups?
When you spend enough time on MGTOW forums and hear the horror stories of divorce you know what to expect, that judge, the state, the laws, her lawyer, and even his lawyer benefits when he losses. Don't believe me look at the statistics....for a period of time before she gets anything. If they were married for only a year, I doubt she'd be entitled to anything. Now involving kids and such is an entirely different issue but a year of marriage gets you damn near jack. When I was getting ready to go through a separation (technically called separate maintenance in Florida), what determined how much she'd get is how long we were in the marriage. Good points though.
Bottom line, know the Law for your state and situation.
Yes, Florida is a no-fault state but each divorce has its own circumstances and uniqueness. However, the "FAULT" whatever it may be can affect Alimony and custody decisions in some cases. Someone mentioned 10 years and 50 %, I always SMH when I hear this. What I am talking about deals with military retirement pay.
Two misnomers with the division of military retirement pay is:
1. You must be married at least 10 years.
2. She gets half your pay.
The 10-year rule is used to determine who pays the spouse. If married less than 10 years the spouse is not entitled to receive alimony directly from the military. Less than 10 years but qualified for alimony the retiring member would pay the alimony directly and / or as set up by the Court. Married 10 years or more the military Defense Financing and Accounting Service pays the alimony directly to the spouse from the member's retirement.
Fifty percent (50%) the law simply states, she / he can be awarded up to 50%. In a military member case, that percentage is determined by a calculation. Again, speaking only of my situation. Although my divorce did not end many years pass 10 years, my lawyer ended the marriage when we stopped being physically involved (sex). It made a huge difference in the outcome and I don't miss it.
I learned a lot about the divorce court system, I got burnt by not following an order to the letter. I then used their own logic to win a decision. My lawyer did not want to bring the matter before the judge but I requested a hearing and the judge agreed with me. It was a simple matter of what the Order said and did not say and my ex's lawyer wanted me to pay something that was NOT clearly defined in the order.
It is pointless to argue the Monger vs. BP Girl case when we do not know every circumstance.I hear your point, however I think the guys posting "She won't get anything" and / or "Hes rich so he will offer her a small deal and she'll be dumb enough to go away" don't know how the system works. Ask the guy who's getting divorced from Janet Jackson (After 5 years of marriage) and paying 500 million!
Good luck. I've been looking for my atf since August 2016 with no help. God bless.I'm not sure you should ever know where Russian Kati is.
I hear your point, however I think the guys posting "She won't get anything" and / or "Hes rich so he will offer her a small deal and she'll be dumb enough to go away" don't know how the system works. Ask the guy who's getting divorced from Janet Jackson (After 5 years of marriage) and paying 500 million!Whos with me. This needs to have its own thread?
Chris Shaft
04-23-17, 06:34
Whos with me. This needs to have its own thread?I agree 100%. What does any of this have to do with the pursuit of pussy? I mean it's an interesting argument and all of that but it definitely doesn't belong in a thread dedicated to BP provider reviews. Maybe the admin can find this thread a new home because I haven't seen one post about pussy in over 5 pages now LOL.
MouthHunter
04-23-17, 23:18
It's exactly for this kinda worthless chatter. Just like this Fuck stick that has made a screen name close to mine to be a troll. MothHunter. This should be his thread.
It's exactly for this kinda worthless chatter. Just like this Fuck stick that has made a screen name close to mine to be a troll. MothHunter. This should be his thread.Fell on the floor & freakin battery popped out it. Put it back together & "Whew!" it works. Thought I was going to have to see John again at Sam Waltons again. LOL.
Anyways, I'm pretty certain MothHunter is Allan- our pesky little rodent. I see him as that annoyin little brother who's always seeking attention. Big brother & all his friends get pissed at him bcuz Little Brother is such an annoying little turd. Lmao!
"Fuckstick?" "This should be his thread?" That was hilarious! LOL.
Seriously tho, correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought the Woodshed was the Fight Club & the General thread was useless chatter.
BeSafe Fuckstick! Happy What-ever-you-are. LOL.
PB.
WhiteNite2000
04-25-17, 17:18
Gents, a couple of big questions:
Do you guys feel that our country is moving to 3rd world nation status given the fact that so many ladies (young, middle age, and more mature ones) have taken up the sex trade?
Is this a reflection of an economy that is in a tailspin (very poor economic opportunities)?
This issue haunts me, by the way.
Tony Tisdale
04-25-17, 17:41
Gents, a couple of big questions:
Do you guys feel that our country is moving to 3rd world nation status given the fact that so many ladies (young, middle age, and more mature ones) have taken up the sex trade?
Is this a reflection of an economy that is in a tailspin (very poor economic opportunities)?
This issue haunts me, by the way.Your thinking represents what is called a "non-sequtiur" in that the conclusion doesn't follow from the evidence.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non_sequitur_(logic).
And there is no such thing as "Third World" countries since the fall of the Soviet Union. They and their allies were the second world, the US and the same the first world, and the rest the third. Your whole thesis is out of court from the start due to antiquated terminology.
But, if you want to compare the US to say some countries in Latin Am, Eastern Europe or Southeast Asia, the prostitution is way more prevelent in such places. In the US it is still largley the addicted, crack, meth, and herion plying the trade. In some other countries it is truly a last resort to make ends meet.
how do you duct tape plastic dildo to your dick?very carefully! Lol.
very carefully! Lol.When you tape it on, but the OUCH factor comes in to play on removal. OUCH! LMAO! OUCH!
Gents, a couple of big questions:
Do you guys feel that our country is moving to 3rd world nation status given the fact that so many ladies (young, middle age, and more mature ones) have taken up the sex trade?
Is this a reflection of an economy that is in a tailspin (very poor economic opportunities)?
This issue haunts me, by the way.I would argue no. The economy is on the upswing. Stock market is at all time highs and the housing market has recovered nicely. The vast majority of girls in the sex trade is a direct result of their drug use.
WhiteNite2000
04-25-17, 22:51
Your thinking represents what is called a "non-sequtiur" in that the conclusion doesn't follow from the evidence.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non_sequitur_(logic).
And there is no such thing as "Third World" countries since the fall of the Soviet Union. They and their allies were the second world, the US and the same the first world, and the rest the third. Your whole thesis is out of court from the start due to antiquated terminology.
But, if you want to compare the US to say some countries in Latin Am, Eastern Europe or Southeast Asia, the prostitution is way more prevelent in such places. In the US it is still largley the addicted, crack, meth, and herion plying the trade. In some other countries it is truly a last resort to make ends meet.
...for quite some time. Most people couldn't make it on just one income. More than 50% of the population only makes about $21,000 per year. Most can't even afford rent and other basic living expenses. Lots of corporations only pay their employees darn near or right at minimum wage. Our infrastructure is a mess; dilapidated and such. Our school system is antiquated. College and health care is overpriced. Well, you get the pix. I can go on and on. Well, let me also mention the fact that the U.S. is near about 20 trillion dollars in debt. Yes, we borrow a lot to the point of ridiculousness. Many people are less than a paycheck away from being thrown out on the streets. Even if many chose not to work in the sex trade, in all likelihood, they'd still need to work 2 jobs just to make ends meet. Unfortunately, many companies are only offering part-time hours. I think the situation is more dismal than they (our government) will have you to believe.
Another reason I mentioned this is because I believe if most women had better choices, I don't think they'd be in the sex trade- I certainly hear this a lot. For example, there was a time many women would either become a nurse or a school teacher- female dominate fields but then there came a time where it wasn't uncommon to see women bypass these fields and be found in professions like engineering, doctors, lawyers, etc. -more male dominate occupations (due to more opportunities). So I looked at this and just thought about how so many women are in the sex trade. I think there is still a fair amount who don't do the hardcore drugs, yet, I realize many of them do. Anyway, rather interesting, to say the least.
Gents, a couple of big questions:
Do you guys feel that our country is moving to 3rd world nation status given the fact that so many ladies (young, middle age, and more mature ones) have taken up the sex trade?
Is this a reflection of an economy that is in a tailspin (very poor economic opportunities)?
This issue haunts me, by the way.I've traveled to places with extreme poverty, we are no where near there nor do I see us going there unless something crazy happens (emp, revolution, ww3, ettc). For us living here it's hard to even conceive what those places are like unless you have been there. To give context, I had a friend who had an 8 or 9 year old offer him sex for the equivalent of 10 dollars, and then her 12 yo friend tried to underbid her and they fought each over who was going with him. This was in public, in a busy market, and no one batted an eye or seemed to think there was an issue. My friend neither asked nor wanted anything of the sort, but apparently it was normal for them.
When you tape it on, but the OUCH factor comes in to play on removal. OUCH! LMAO! OUCH!Coconut oil?
MyDarkSide
04-26-17, 10:26
Gents, a couple of big questions:
Do you guys feel that our country is moving to 3rd world nation status given the fact that so many ladies (young, middle age, and more mature ones) have taken up the sex trade?
Is this a reflection of an economy that is in a tailspin (very poor economic opportunities)?
This issue haunts me, by the way.Funny in that I look at this from a different angle (and with some exceptions, I shy away from cheap BP stuff; SBs and whatever.) It's not the lack of income but the lifestyle. Half these girls arrive in nice, new cars. Breast augmentation, manicures, waxing, phones, clothing. And a few beautiful, well decorated, expensive homes. In many cases they choose to do this to live lives more comfortably than I do.
There is a lot of "easy" money to be made for a reasonably attractive female. It's their expensive material life. Or drugs.
http://jacksonville.backpage.com/WomenSeekMen/come-see-this-sexy-spinner-youll-have-the-ride-of-your-life-ask-about-my-special/14677838
All this time I thought I understood the term. LOL.
Tony Tisdale
04-26-17, 11:01
I see what you are saying. The days of the 60 K a year Union factory job with only a high school diploma are largely behind us. That said, this country is still highly developed and there is a ton of opportunity. This is proven again and again by Asian-Americans who have the highest average income and educational attainment of any US ethnic group. They work hard, save money, listen and do and well in school, and get the training they need for rewarding careers. And they are most thinly represented on the streets homeless, in jail, or in drug rehab centers. It comes down to choices and rolling with the changes. No the US is not becoming 3rd World.
The fact that so many women are in the sex trade does not make us a 3rd world nation. We are naive to how prevalent this game has been over the years. Social media only brings it more attention while also making the women who would be doing it anyways more available (when they actually pick up the phone).
I have worked out the economics of it before and a girl who was drug-free and did not have a Gucci-fetish could easily clear $50 K a year tax free by only 'working' three days a week for 2-3 hours. The problem is several of the BP girls are drug dependent, which means their disposable income evaporates every time they need a hit. I have met a few ladies who are now retired from the game who clearly did it for the disposable income, to allow them to buy nice clothes and take nice trips. Throw in a sugar daddy and you are living comfortably, tax free. These women can afford to be more selective with their clientele because the right clientele will pay a premium for what they can offer over the ladies on the other side of the spectrum.
So no, the current status of the sex trade does not make us 3rd world and until women are more openly selling without fear of repercussion, this will not be the case.
Gents, a couple of big questions:
Do you guys feel that our country is moving to 3rd world nation status given the fact that so many ladies (young, middle age, and more mature ones) have taken up the sex trade?
Is this a reflection of an economy that is in a tailspin (very poor economic opportunities)?
This issue haunts me, by the way.
Gents, a couple of big questions:
Do you guys feel that our country is moving to 3rd world nation status given the fact that so many ladies (young, middle age, and more mature ones) have taken up the sex trade?
Is this a reflection of an economy that is in a tailspin (very poor economic opportunities)?
This issue haunts me, by the way.I think that is what you mean. In most developed countries the sex trade is legal and regulated and if not legal then a minor offense.
Bobb Sledd
04-26-17, 14:01
http://jacksonville.backpage.com/WomenSeekMen/come-see-this-sexy-spinner-youll-have-the-ride-of-your-life-ask-about-my-special/14677838
All this time I thought I understood the term. LOL.Wow!! That would definitely redefine the term!
Beachesnole02
04-26-17, 14:07
Wow!! That would definitely redefine the term!Her spinning around on your johnson, It's to die for Or from.
http://jacksonville.backpage.com/WomenSeekMen/come-see-this-sexy-spinner-youll-have-the-ride-of-your-life-ask-about-my-special/14677838
All this time I thought I understood the term. LOL.I thought I knew what color blonde was. LOL.
http://jacksonville.backpage.com/WomenSeekMen/blonde-bombshell-new-girl-intown-curvy-all-natural/14675933
http://jacksonville.backpage.com/WomenSeekMen/come-see-this-sexy-spinner-youll-have-the-ride-of-your-life-ask-about-my-special/14677838
All this time I thought I understood the term. LOL.It's all relative, Amigo. If you're personally sporting a "telephone pole" down there, or your nickname is "Trigger", then she could qualify as a S P I N N E R.
Tony Tisdale
04-27-17, 06:56
None of that has anything to do with economic development but puritanical ethics that are found at the heart of US culture. That combined with feminism, strange bed fellows for sure but often the far left and right go full circle and come together. .
I think that is what you mean. In most developed countries the sex trade is legal and regulated and if not legal then a minor offense.
The fact that so many women are in the sex trade does not make us a 3rd world nation. We are naive to how prevalent this game has been over the years. Social media only brings it more attention while also making the women who would be doing it anyways more available (when they actually pick up the phone).
I have worked out the economics of it before and a girl who was drug-free and did not have a Gucci-fetish could easily clear $50 K a year tax free by only 'working' three days a week for 2-3 hours. The problem is several of the BP girls are drug dependent, which means their disposable income evaporates every time they need a hit. I have met a few ladies who are now retired from the game who clearly did it for the disposable income, to allow them to buy nice clothes and take nice trips. Throw in a sugar daddy and you are living comfortably, tax free. These women can afford to be more selective with their clientele because the right clientele will pay a premium for what they can offer over the ladies on the other side of the spectrum.
So no, the current status of the sex trade does not make us 3rd world and until women are more openly selling without fear of repercussion, this will not be the case.Just a a quick question on clearing $50 K, did you figure in expenses? Most live in hotels which is a huge hit right off the top.
Beachesnole02
04-27-17, 10:48
Just a a quick question on clearing $50 K, did you figure in expenses? Most live in hotels which is a huge hit right off the top.I have had a few discussions with high end providers that I have known for years about economics. It usually starts when I ask them why are they still doing the humpy bump for a living after 10+ years. Setting aside the usual male issues, (when they pick a guy to really date, it is always the WRONG guy) many of them have commented on the money, approaching or exceeding 6 figures even when they hit the 40's. They net out 5 K a week on road trips and work a couple weeks a month. Yes they have overhead, but the travel circuit is to or near places they want to go. An attractive woman without the monkey on her back, or a man in her wallet can net 50+ based upon what they tell me.
WhiteNite2000
04-27-17, 12:25
I have had a few discussions with high end providers that I have known for years about economics. It usually starts when I ask them why are they still doing the humpy bump for a living after 10+ years. Setting aside the usual male issues, (when they pick a guy to really date, it is always the WRONG guy) many of them have commented on the money, approaching or exceeding 6 figures even when they hit the 40's. They net out 5 K a week on road trips and work a couple weeks a month. Yes they have overhead, but the travel circuit is to or near places they want to go. An attractive woman without the monkey on her back, or a man in her wallet can net 50+ based upon what they tell me.
I don't know if you all ever heard of Aussie Amber from south Florida- some years ago. She and husband were arrested for tax evasion or something as she was escorting. I think LEO dubbed the husband as her pimp. Anyway, she was charging between 350-400/ hour. They said she was making 200 k plus per year. Perhaps she was really hustling more than the average girl but it's certainly possible. Though I still wouldn't call it disposable income for most girls, as someone mentioned. To me, disposable income is when one is able to pay his or her normal bills with the income they make from a regular job but they might work either overtime or some other job just to tend to other extracurricular activities. Most people just can't make it on the money they make from regular employment. With a lot of these girls, they don't possess the skill set or education to get the type of legal jobs that can take care of their basic needs.
Beachesnole02
04-27-17, 15:57
I don't know if you all ever heard of Aussie Amber from south Florida- some years ago. She and husband were arrested for tax evasion or something as she was escorting. I think LEO dubbed the husband as her pimp. Anyway, she was charging between 350-400/ hour. They said she was making 200 k plus per year. Perhaps she was really hustling more than the average girl but it's certainly possible. Though I still wouldn't call it disposable income for most girls, as someone mentioned. To me, disposable income is when one is able to pay his or her normal bills with the income they make from a regular job but they might work either overtime or some other job just to tend to other extracurricular activities. Most people just can't make it on the money they make from regular employment. With a lot of these girls, they don't possess the skill set or education to get the type of legal jobs that can take care of their basic needs.Yeah, the ones I talked to, one was a stock broker in her prior life, another was a lawyer, one was a shift sergeant at a womans prison, all had real jobs at one point before easy cash got them.
WhiteNite2000
04-30-17, 17:04
...about the U.S. economy:
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-developing-nation-regressing-economy-poverty-donald-trump-mit-economist-peter-temin-a7694726.html
Tony Tisdale
04-30-17, 17:45
...about the U.S. economy:Well it's one college prof's opinion, and obviously coming from a leftist slant. The truth is usually discovered by weighing a number of sources together. I like the way he summed things up.
"Mr Temin says that education is the solution to offer everyone in society better opportunities and calls for investments in public schools and public universities.
He says: "Knowing how to think, how to get on with people, how to cooperate. All the social skills and social capital. Are going to be critically important for kids in this environment."
I'd respond by saying that it's not just about throwing money at the problem. Cultures need to change. You can have all the fancy schools you like but if kids aren't interested in learning little will change. Then we are back to the Asians, "culture. " They in this present environment rarely mouth off to teachers, do their work, work hard, save money, don't end up on dope or in jail, and prepare for rewarding careers. As a result they have the highest educational attainment and average income in the US. And much of this starts at home with parents. Asians also by the way, historically, have been subjected to some awful periods of racial discrimination.
He also is taking real liberties with terminology calling the US "developing" and lumping us in the same basket with places like Mexico and the Philippines. Most experts would consider the US highly developed. Here a list of "developed and developing."
http://www.investopedia.com/updates/top-developing-countries/
Here is a report on education and what spending has and hasn't accomplished.
https://object.cato.org/sites/cato.org/files/pubs/pdf/pa746.pdf
WhiteNite2000
05-01-17, 00:06
Well it's one college prof's opinion, and obviously coming from a leftist slant. The truth is usually discovered by weighing a number of sources together. I like the way he summed things up.
"Mr Temin says that education is the solution to offer everyone in society better opportunities and calls for investments in public schools and public universities.
He says: "Knowing how to think, how to get on with people, how to cooperate. All the social skills and social capital. Are going to be critically important for kids in this environment."
I'd respond by saying that it's not just about throwing money at the problem. Cultures need to change. You can have all the fancy schools you like but if kids aren't interested in learning little will change. Then we are back to the Asians, "culture. " They in this present environment rarely mouth off to teachers, do their work, work hard, save money, don't end up on dope or in jail, and prepare for rewarding careers. As a result they have the highest educational attainment and average income in the US. And much of this starts at home with parents. Asians also by the way, historically, have been subjected to some awful periods of racial discrimination.
He also is taking real liberties with terminology calling the US "developing" and lumping us in the same basket with places like Mexico and the Philippines. Most experts would consider the US highly developed. Here a list of "developed and developing."
http://www.investopedia.com/updates/top-developing-countries/
Here is a report on education and what spending has and hasn't accomplished.
https://object.cato.org/sites/cato.org/files/pubs/pdf/pa746.pdf
...to be great, i. e. , education, health care, etc. We spend a lot more money on health care more than any industrialized nation, yet, Americans have the poorest health. Per capita, America spends about $9500 on health care; whereas other nations are spending half that. So it is true, you can't just throw money at it, expecting greatness. Our educational system is largely still modeled after the industrial period (not post industrial-advanced technology), meaning, we have a pretty antiquated system that can better prepare one to work in a factory rather than a more advanced society. Very sad indeed and I believe our political leaders and the people have allowed such as this. We need better leaders to bring about changes in our society that will improve our quality of life and a society that recognizes when changes are needed.
One thing I will leave with you to consider though, empires do fall. The Medes, Persians, Greeks, and the Romans were great empires and they fell. The question is, what was happening in those societies before their fall that should have informed them that they were headed for destruction. What were the signs; the symptoms that should have alerted them to their impending demise? Based on the little I've read about the Roman empire, it appears they had gotten too large before their fall. I think I also read that internal strife lead to their destruction. When Alexander the great died, my understanding is that his generals fought over supremacy. That nation was divided into 4. Anyway, the point is, if these nations can fall, we (America) are not immune. But the question is, what is occurring in our society today that should inform us that we, likewise, are headed in the wrong direction? I realize this topic came up because I was curious about the fact that so many women are going into the sex industry and that just piqued my curiosity as to why this is and of course I could only attribute this to a society that is offering very little opportunities. Asians can be used as a kind of model or a group that can be studied to determine why they're more successful than others, but on a large scale bases, I don't think many of us will achieve that status- but we should study them to determine what they are doing and what we're not. I know there was a time that their kids attended school 6 days a week as opposed to our 5 days but I'm sure they are doing a lot of other great things. I know as far as math and sciences, America ranks at the bottom compared to other nations and that is sad. Many engineering jobs cannot be filled in this country because we don't have people who excel in these areas (about 1. 5 millions jobs goes unfilled). Even our military is faltering. My understanding from experts is that we are not as battle ready as we should be. Some of our ships can't leave port because we don't have available parts to fix them. Again, I don't think all is as well as is being portrayed. Anyway, still quite interesting.
Tony Tisdale
05-01-17, 01:24
We aren't "at the bottom" in math and sciences. Yes some Western Euro countries and a few Asian show better results in education, but we are still way ahead of most of the world. Many "developing" or "underdeveloped" countries do not provide education beyond the 8th grade, and even then families are responsible for buying books and uniforms. Many cannot. Second, according to the HDI put out by a group of international economists under the direction of the UN, we rate very high in human development across several measures. Yes we are a highly developed nation though there are a handful that are ahead of us in these measurements.
http://www.nationsonline.org/oneworld/human_development.htm
Frankly, calling us "third world" or "underdeveloped" or even "developing" is ridiculous. And regarding roads and bridges, people talking about that need to take a drive through Mexico, the Philippines, and the list can go on. Yes there is room for improvement but the sky isn't falling because 20 or so girls post on BP Jacksonville every day. How about check out Pattaya, Thailand where 1000's upon 1000's of young women go to work in the business daily.
As to the end of empires, yea they all eventually end. So what are we then, a "third world empire?" Seems rather oxymoronic to me. LOL.
Tony Tisdale
05-01-17, 02:51
...to be great, i. e. , education, health care, etc. We spend a lot more money on health care more than any industrialized nation, yet, Americans have the poorest health. Per capita, America spends about $9500 on health care; whereas other nations are spending half that.Forgot about this. Yes several industrialized nations are ahead of us in life expectancy even though we spend more on healthcare per capita, but none by more than a few years.
http://www.nationsonline.org/oneworld/human_development.htm
But that just makes the point I was making yet again. Look at all the fat fucks / obesity in our country, the love affair with fast food and generally unhealthy diet and lifestyles in general. Just goes to show that throwing money at a problem doesn't guarantee good life choices. Just like spending more money on public education doesn't guarantee that students won't aspire to be a street thug or rap artist, or nothing at all rather than cooperating with the teacher for a better chance at success. So bad choices are real factors here as opposed to be shut out of opportunity. Personal responsibility versus complaining and demanding that the government fix it. Two differing outlooks in the USA indeed.
Regarding the military there is a spending bill on the table.
WhiteNite2000
05-01-17, 11:23
We aren't "at the bottom" in math and sciences. Yes some Western Euro countries and a few Asian show better results in education, but we are still way ahead of most of the world. Many "developing" or "underdeveloped" countries do not provide education beyond the 8th grade, and even then families are responsible for buying books and uniforms. Many cannot. Second, according to the HDI put out by a group of international economists under the direction of the UN, we rate very high in human development across several measures. Yes we are a highly developed nation though there are a handful that are ahead of us in these measurements.
http://www.nationsonline.org/oneworld/human_development.htm
Frankly, calling us "third world" or "underdeveloped" or even "developing" is ridiculous. And regarding roads and bridges, people talking about that need to take a drive through Mexico, the Philippines, and the list can go on. Yes there is room for improvement but the sky isn't falling because 20 or so girls post on BP Jacksonville every day. How about check out Pattaya, Thailand where 1000's upon 1000's of young women go to work in the business daily.
As to the end of empires, yea they all eventually end. So what are we then, a "third world empire?" Seems rather oxymoronic to me. LOL.
Most of the research or experts aren't saying and neither am I saying we're a 3rd world country but what they are saying is that the course we're on can very well end up that way. Consider what they are saying a warning sign. What can we do to avert the situation, is the million dollar question. With the widening gap in wealth between the 99% and 1%, it's apparent that we have a dire situation on our hands. I mean, come on, minimum wage? Do you think people can really live, somewhat comfortably, on minimum wage? Absolutely not.
Look at this report on the PISA assessment where we rank near the bottom:
http://hechingerreport.org/u-s-now-ranks-near-bottom-among-35-industrialized-nations-math/
Of course, we've been fluctuating in our scores in sciences and reading but it appears that is because many countries have slipped which doesn't say much about our current status. Many of our students can hardly write when they leave high school. Something that is also interesting, to have the world's largest economy, here is the percentage of people that have certain degrees in this country:
1. Bachelors degrees: 30 something percent.
2. Masters degrees: now almost 8 or 9 percent.
3. Less than 3 percent PhDs.
Being a country that is considered rich, this is pretty pathetic. But then again, the high cost of college has become a reality of today. Even though the government tells colleges they cannot raise tuition from time to time(which in itself is too high), however, they can make up for those deficits in tuition they cannot collect from us in other fees- which makes college even the more un-affordable for many. How can a country get the best jobs if educational attainment is dismal? What corporations would want to place their businesses in any country who do not have an educated citizenry?
Among the 34 OECD countries, the United States performed below average in mathematics in 2012 and is ranked 27th (this is the best estimate, although the rank could be between 23 and 29 due to sampling and measurement error). Performance in reading and science are both close to the OECD average. The United States ranks 17 in reading, (range of ranks: 14 to 20). And 20 in science (range of ranks: 17 to 25). There has been no significant change in these performances over time.
https://www.oecd.org/unitedstates/PISA-2012-results-US.pdf
These are some pretty accurate sources and the numbers show we need to up our game. Just to be clear again though, researchers are not saying we are a third world country nor do we have underdeveloped status but if we continue this course, as I mentioned, empires do fall. When your economy (GDP) is not making adequate growth and we're still at an almost 20 trillion dollar deficit, this is certainly going in the wrong direction. I can have 5 million in the bank but if I owe 100 million, no good. Got to turn it around before it's too late. I liken this to a person whose spending is out of control; it won't be long before his house is ruined- financially and otherwise. Also, to be sure, I am not just looking at Jax BP hoes entering into this line of work, I'm looking at it from a domestic perspective.
LuvSoftHands
05-01-17, 13:49
Sheesh, I'm a deep thinker too, but isn't anyone going to chime in re: appropriateness of this subject matter to the forum on which it appears? Drew? Beuhler?. Beuhler?. Anyone?
Sheesh, I'm a deep thinker too, but isn't anyone going to chime in re: appropriateness of this subject matter to the forum on which it appears? Drew?... Huh? What? I put this whole thread on "ignore".
WhiteNite2000
05-01-17, 14:10
Sheesh, I'm a deep thinker too, but isn't anyone going to chime in re: appropriateness of this subject matter to the forum on which it appears? Drew? Beuhler?. Beuhler?. Anyone?This is the reason why we began talking about said subject in "woodshed" so as not to tie up the other threads that are mainly used to pursue coochie. This subject, believe it or not, is still talking about the sex industry but with a twist. When people start talking about these kind of offhanded subjects on BP threads and such, people complain but when we come on over to the woodshed thread, people still complain. Can't have it both ways. In case you're wondering, my question was (basically): do people think that the increased number of women entering into the sex industry, is it a sign of a deteriorating economy that might be leading to third world status. You see, it's still about the sex industry but as I mentioned, with a twist. We promise not to bring this topic to the escort, BP, and massage thread, etc. Which is why we're over here having a civilized discussion. Besides, with the poor ass talent we've been seeing lately in Jax, why not expand a little on what is normally discussed as long as we're not harming or threatening anyone? At least we might learn something about something rather than calling 10 BP girls and can't get one to respond! LOL.
Also, typically when people start talking about offhanded subjects in other threads, Admin usually moves those topics to the woodshed; that said, it appears we're not breaking any rules.
Visited Cat today. Little spinner on southside. After visiting with her and seeing how young she was. It made me question my hobby. Her ad says she is 22, but I swear she can't be any older than 18 or 19. I know she has been eeviewed before and for awhile but I can't shake the feeling she is just a kid. The life has not been good to her, she is way too skinny. Her A cups look droopy. She seems nice enough and very accommodating. I just don't know if I can see anyone that young anymore. I seriously question if going through with visit was right thing to do. I feel like a took advantage of her situation. Has anyone else gone through this, or am I just a weird one LOL.
http://jacksonville.backpage.com/WomenSeekMen/904-586-1126-kitty-kat-cum-satisfy-your-desire-for-a-fiery-hot-redheaded-playmate/14692833
Tony Tisdale
05-01-17, 16:17
Whitenite, I don't see us covering any new ground. I'm getting ready for a big vacation so will soon be giving you the last word. Given your investment in this you were bound to get it anyway. Will say this, no, I do not see us in a "tailspin" toward some 3rd World status to use your original description, and you've provided no source material to back up such a doomsday announcement. In fact we are currently very much a highly developed country and on the upswing economically since the great recession. I've provided sources to back that up.
In fact you've provided no source materials at all except this recent bit about education scores where you show the US at the bottom when compared to a short list of other highly developed countries. Thanks for clarifying that when you asserted "bottom" you weren't talking about the world at large. That or you were just repeating something you heard and benefitted from fact checking in Google. Here is another source along those lines.
http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2017/02/15/u-s-students-internationally-math-science/
Note that a relatively small number of world nations participate in these measurements. Scroll to the bottom related to the 15 year olds and we are in the middle range of the small sampling. A bit embarrassing, but I suspect that if we stopped testing the Deep South and maybe a few other states we'd see our national scores spike significantly. Sorry if that offends anyone but hey, it's "the woodshed. " It's in many ways a very diverse nation we live him. And there are a lot of very bright people in this country. Look at our history of leading the world in technological inventions, and we still have the world's greatest universities.
But then we are back to the Asian-Americans. Want to succeed in the land of plenty? Want to make more than minimum wage? Do what they do and don't do. I've laid that out twice so won't repeat it again. They aren't in a "tailspin. " Far from it, and those that are, it's usually due to their own poor choices and / or refusal to adapt to a changing economic climate. With that I'll rest my case.
LuvSoftHands
05-01-17, 17:25
I stand chastened.
Tony Tisdale
05-01-17, 19:49
Among the 34 OECD countries, the United States performed below average in mathematics in 2012 and is ranked 27th (this is the best estimate, although the rank could be between 23 and 29 due to sampling and measurement error). Performance in reading and science are both close to the OECD average. The United States ranks 17 in reading, (range of ranks: 14 to 20). And 20 in science (range of ranks: 17 to 25). There has been no significant change in these performances over time. These are not your words though they are presented as such with no lead in to the source and no quotation marks are used. It's a copy and paste of someone else's work. Makes me wonder what else you've copied and pasted and presented as your own. Maybe, just maybe, monger boards aren't the best places to have political discussions. Lolol.
P.S. The educational study I presented is more recent by 3 years, 2015.
WhiteNite2000
05-01-17, 22:02
Whitenite, I don't see us covering any new ground. I'm getting ready for a big vacation so will soon be giving you the last word. Given your investment in this you were bound to get it anyway. Will say this, no, I do not see us in a "tailspin" toward some 3rd World status to use your original description, and you've provided no source material to back up such a doomsday announcement. In fact we are currently very much a highly developed country and on the upswing economically since the great recession. I've provided sources to back that up.
In fact you've provided no source materials at all except this recent bit about education scores where you show the US at the bottom when compared to a short list of other highly developed countries. Thanks for clarifying that when you asserted "bottom" you weren't talking about the world at large. That or you were just repeating something you heard and benefitted from fact checking in Google. Here is another source along those lines.
http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2017/02/15/u-s-students-internationally-math-science/
Note that a relatively small number of world nations participate in these measurements. Scroll to the bottom related to the 15 year olds and we are in the middle range of the small sampling. A bit embarrassing, but I suspect that if we stopped testing the Deep South and maybe a few other states we'd see our national scores spike significantly. Sorry if that offends anyone but hey, it's "the woodshed. " It's in many ways a very diverse nation we live him. And there are a lot of very bright people in this country. Look at our history of leading the world in technological inventions, and we still have the world's greatest universities.
But then we are back to the Asian-Americans. Want to succeed in the land of plenty? Want to make more than minimum wage? Do what they do and don't do. I've laid that out twice so won't repeat it again. They aren't in a "tailspin. " Far from it, and those that are, it's usually due to their own poor choices and / or refusal to adapt to a changing economic climate. With that I'll rest my case.And I suspect most people should be aware of such. I don't see us being as profitable as you've mentioned given the fact that we are in a deficit that will take a very long time to pay off and it keeps growing. To me, I wouldn't characterize this as being prosperous. I'd rather operate in the black rather than the red any day-any time. There are people who would like to go to school but hey, it's just too darn expensive to do so. I gave you the dismal figures on the number of degrees different ones hold in this country and I tell you, the numbers should be much higher for a highly developed country. To have a school system that is better suited for the industrial age might explain our place in academic achievements. Let me say this to you also as I go back to why this conversation originally started, no woman in her right mind would enter into the sex trade unless she was pretty desperate. Believe me, these girls aren't working in the sex trade because they love sex so much. In fact, if they can get away with just a BJ or body rub to get your money, they would. If some of them can, they'd resort to the ole cash and dash in order to not participate in sexual intercourse. I said that to say this, desperate situations calls for desperate measures and entering into the sex trade definitely informs me that there are some desperate women out there. Whether these girls (or people in general) make good choices or not, to obtain a college degree is being made damn near impossible for the populous.
I, like many, have been on that side of the fence when you don't have a college education and let me tell you, in today's workforce climate, it is a terrible place to be. You know, you have to look at the information provided in its aggregate and form a conclusion about it. Your conclusion perhaps tells you that all is well, despite the obvious; however, based on my observation of many factors, I'd say things aren't quite looking up. You can't borrow your way out of debt my friend. That will soon catch up with you. If you don't accept anything else I said, I hope this last portion will at least inform you that when one has to borrow money (as American leaders do a lot of), we're in big trouble. Also, it doesn't matter if I google something or use some other reliable sources as that is what the information is there for which is why I stay away from sites like wikipedia. Most people who know anything about research would stay away from such sites because such websites can be changed by anyone. Sites that have more reliable information are your. Edu, . Org, . Gov's. Anyway, that's what it is.
No empire stands forever!
Tony Tisdale
05-02-17, 00:29
I speak for many Americans who are sick of listening to your crying. Man up and seize the day or just stfu. Asians comes to this country, you know what they do? They are thrilled to have a green card. They work two jobs at minimum wage which is actually a bundle in many developing economies. They don't eat lunch at Mickey Ds or stuff their face with dollar store cookies. They take a sandwich to work in saran wrap and their drink in a thermos. They share their apartment with another family or two. Before you know it, they have 20 grand saved and can buy a nail salon. Somewhere along the way many get a college degree like as a Physician's Assistant where they make 100k a year even while called "gook" here and there along the way. Talk to people in the Philippines. They are dying to come here, so pardon me if I'm not much moved by your cryfest.
Well give you this much though as I just got in from Wackos. Many of these quote "third world" or "developing" countries figured out long ago that it's not in the best interest of societies to allow people to pollute bars and restaurants chain smoking cigarettes and cigars. Anyone up for that needs to take their act out into the street, and that's where many of these so called "3rd World" or "developing" countries are ahead of us. Take a trip to Colombia or Costa Rica and breathe some fresh air. .
Tony Tisdale
05-02-17, 01:27
You guys are nothing but a bunch of malcontent yankees. You came down here during the boom of 2001-09. No one is going to continue lending you money because you have a pulse. Get a trailer.They are the realm of the "mentally challenged" and know no geographical boundaries. Carry on amigo. Your contributions are welcome in the woodshed. LOL.
Tony Tisdale
05-02-17, 02:00
Let me say this to you also as I go back to why this conversation originally started, no woman in her right mind would enter into the sex trade unless she was pretty desperate. Believe me, these girls aren't working in the sex trade because they love sex so much. If you haven't figured this one out yet then you aren't sharp enough to warrant anyone's time here. Or did you miss all the "RIP" posts or fail to see all the human skeletons in BP ads?
to obtain a college degree is being made damn near impossible for the populous. Total hogwash. Scholarships. Pell Grants. Student loans. Plenty of opportunity for people who work rather than whine.
WhiteNite2000
05-02-17, 02:11
I speak for many Americans who are sick of listening to your crying. Man up and seize the day or just stfu. Asians comes to this country, you know what they do? They are thrilled to have a green card. They work two jobs at minimum wage which is actually a bundle in many developing economies. They don't eat lunch at Mickey Ds or stuff their face with dollar store cookies. They take a sandwich to work in saran wrap and their drink in a thermos. They share their apartment with another family or two. Before you know it, they have 20 grand saved and can buy a nail salon. Somewhere along the way many get a college degree like as a Physician's Assistant where they make 100k a year even while called "gook" here and there along the way. Talk to people in the Philippines. They are dying to come here, so pardon me if I'm not much moved by your cryfest.
Well give you this much though as I just got in from Wackos. Many of these quote "third world" or "developing" countries figured out long ago that it's not in the best interest of societies to allow people to pollute bars and restaurants chain smoking cigarettes and cigars. Anyone up for that needs to take their act out into the street, and that's where many of these so called "3rd World" or "developing" countries are ahead of us. Take a trip to Colombia or Costa Rica and breathe some fresh air. .
Personally speaking, I'm doing very well- financially and otherwise. However, I'm not a selfish little prick who only looks out for himself. I consider the pain and suffering of others as well. I have compassion for others too. Many Americans can't get tired of me talking about such important issues since countless Americans are suffering and wish we had a better and more fair system in place. Our political leaders are so corrupt, they allow corporations to pay us very little while charging us an arm and a leg for certain (needful) commodities. Your current president has even said that the U.S. was slipping into third world status- hope you didn't vote for him because he seemed to agree with my assessment- now ask me to prove it!
You are being quite delusional about the state of America but all the proof I'll give you is this, our national debt is at an alarming level and the ridiculous spending continues with no end in sight. You cannot just bury your head in the sand to such a reality. This thing is real and quite disturbing that so many Americans seem to be in denial about it. Why do you think the people voted for the current president? They wanted a fiscal conservative in power. Will he do what he said he would do, well, your guess is as good as mine! Most of them don't keep their promises so who knows. I will also say again, you cannot borrow yourself out of debt! Let me repeat that in case you didn't catch it: you cannot borrow yourself out of debt! You cannot spend more than what you bring in! But we have continued such foolishness. You cannot say America is in great shape with the kind of debt we're in and this is really all the proof I need to provide. You should understand that making 5 million dollars yet owing 100 million is not a sign of good financial health- it's a travesty but people with your mindset, we will never fix these problems because you're in denial- so then, I guess that means more and more girls will continue to sell coochie!
One last thing, stop comparing us to Asians because they come over here with a different mindset and a better academic foundation compared to us. You cannot compare the educational system of America with that of Asians. Our system is antiquated and we don't have the leaders in place to improve our academic institutions and ensure that we have a system that is 2nd to none. It's a farce at best. Plus, in many countries, going to college is taken care of by their governments or at least not as expensive as our schools. No comparison!
WhiteNite2000
05-02-17, 02:25
These are not your words though they are presented as such with no lead in to the source and no quotation marks are used. It's a copy and paste of someone else's work. Makes me wonder what else you've copied and pasted and presented as your own. Maybe, just maybe, monger boards aren't the best places to have political discussions. Lolol.
P.S. The educational study I presented is more recent by 3 years, 2015.
So observing APA or MLA format / rules isn't important but it seems you're running away from the issues by interjecting something as irrelevant as this. It's all about reliable sources anyway which I've provided plenty. I'll throw this at you again, you cannot BORROW yourself out of debt which is what we're doing. Not a good sign of great financial health by any stretch and with all your intelligence, you can't justify a very small GDP compared to an astronomical national debt. No good boss! Here is one for you concerning the U.S. Debt: "It is the amount of money the American government has BORROWED to pay its bills. It exists because the government's expenses exceed its revenues. So to pay the bills, the government BORROWED money from countries like Japan, China, Brazil and other places. " This doesn't sound like a healthy economy to me man! Here is a great article about our national debt. It's enough to make you want to cry:
http://www.crfb.org/blogs/donald-trump-can-pay-national-debt-8-years
Now I'm done with this topic, as now, it is resorting to name calling which I don't engage in. You may have the last word since it seems that is what you need! Lol
Tony Tisdale
05-02-17, 02:50
And has unleashed the exclamation points in droves. Has the homeboy come unhinged? .
What Trump says or doesn't say is immaterial as it changes from hour to hour. Fact is we are on the upswing since the great recession. We are still the leaders of the free world. We are big players, and that isn't liable to change anytime soon.
Yea I'll continue to talk about Asians as they destroy your whole thesis. Many come here escaping circumstances much worse then here, but instead of packing in super sized combo meals and woddling around t town angerily demanding that the govt do something for them, or that Bernie Sanders (assuming they even know who that is) raises the minimum wage to $20 an hour, they work hard, save $, pursue education, and get ahead in the land of plenty. You and those that think like you could do the same thing and stop claiming the very possible is impossible. Now go get yourself some rest and reevaluate your thinking and tomorrow, become part of the solution rather than perpetuating the problem. Suerte.
And if you can't see that these BP chicks are addicts and not victims of some economic exploitation than you are deluded beyond all hope. You are simply seeing an exploiter in every Bush, but unlike Rev Al, aren't making any money off of it which is VERY sad.
Tony Tisdale
05-02-17, 03:06
You steal this man's words (linked below) and try to pass them off as your own, well, just shows the difference between you and the Asians I've been discussing. They work hard, play by the rules and with thrift and integrity, you don't and when things don't go your way you blame the government and assert that some forces out there are picking on you. Sound familiar? I'm sure you thought no one would catch it but I did, and it strikes right at the heart of the matter. Now bring out the exclamation marks again. I want to see a slew of them. .
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-developing-nation-regressing-economy-poverty-donald-trump-mit-economist-peter-temin-a7694726.html
Why is it that when someone posts some new and relevant information, the guys who immediately clamor for links or digits are those with few or no substantive contributions here? None of my business if my colleagues here want to entertain those requests, but I, for one, ignore them. Info exchanges are meant to be two way streets and I'm seeing a lot of new monikers whose only posts are "have you seen her" or requesting contact info. Unfortunately the board grants Senior Status based on post count and time here, so many so-called Seniors have contributed absolutely nothing.
What's up with all the cism? I've noticed a rise in racially charged posts lately. And it seems very lopsided. White members in particular. Are we getting so insecure of the BBC destroying our women that we resort to taking subtle digs at our brown brothers on a sex forum?? They are already getting singled out in hookers ads, and now they have to deal with you idiots as well? Pretty fucked up.
But I guess that's to be expected from a bunch of old geezers who are being phased out on multiple levels in society.
Get that dirt off your shoulders brown brothers.
If you're seeing these why aren't you reporting them?
A2
Stewie Griffin
05-06-17, 09:05
Why is it that when someone posts some new and relevant information, the guys who immediately clamor for links or digits are those with few or no substantive contributions here? None of my business if my colleagues here want to entertain those requests, but I, for one, ignore them. Info exchanges are meant to be two way streets and I'm seeing a lot of new monikers whose only posts are "have you seen her" or requesting contact info. Unfortunately the board grants Senior Status based on post count and time here, so many so-called Seniors have contributed absolutely nothing.I have noticed the same thing. Its usually people with low posts count who blow my inbox up asking for information.
If you're seeing these why aren't you reporting them?
A2I guess I just didn't want to be a snitch. I was just wondering why some users expressed those undertones. I guess stuff like that runs deep. On both sides of the coin. White AND black. If humanity could outgrow that disease we would be a wondrous race. Sorry I think the mary jane is talking now. LOL.
Gustav Klimpt
05-06-17, 17:00
For about as much time as some cruising looking for crack pussy or waiting at the dentist office. I flew from Fort Lauderdale to Medellin Columbia for $236 RT in a couple of hours. Pussy abounds. Just saying that some of you gents with some time, proximity to FLL and a passport might want to research the possibilities of a 3 day trip. I did, and the thought of hitting PH again won't happen ever again. Some girls I spent some time with.
Gustav Klimpt
05-06-17, 17:06
For about as much time as some cruising looking for crack pussy or waiting at the dentist office. I flew from Fort Lauderdale to Medellin Columbia for $236 RT in a couple of hours. Pussy abounds. Just saying that some of you gents with some time, proximity to FLL and a passport might want to research the possibilities of a 3 day trip. I did, and the thought of hitting PH again won't happen ever again. Some girls I spent some time with.Sorry for the sideway shots.
For about as much time as some cruising looking for crack pussy or waiting at the dentist office. I flew from Fort Lauderdale to Medellin Columbia for $236 RT in a couple of hours. Pussy abounds. Just saying that some of you gents with some time, proximity to FLL and a passport might want to research the possibilities of a 3 day trip. I did, and the thought of hitting PH again won't happen ever again. Some girls I spent some time with.Got a friend does this monthly, renewing my passport now. He showed me some of the ladies, and the areas to stay.
Gustav Klimpt
05-07-17, 22:24
You steal this man's words (linked below) and try to pass them off as your own, well, just shows the difference between you and the Asians I've been discussing. They work hard, play by the rules and with thrift and integrity, you don't and when things don't go your way you blame the government and assert that some forces out there are picking on you. Sound familiar? I'm sure you thought no one would catch it but I did, and it strikes right at the heart of the matter. Now bring out the exclamation marks again. I want to see a slew of them. .
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-developing-nation-regressing-economy-poverty-donald-trump-mit-economist-peter-temin-a7694726.htmlTony Tisdale is a troll.
FloridaBiker
05-08-17, 05:23
Mexican girls with their hair dyed blond.Actually, not true. I mean the Mexican reference. I am a regular traveler to all the South and Central American countries. And yes, I do partake of the services available. IMO the Colombian women are typically far more beautiful, And willing to provide a GFE. As far as blonde dye-jobs go I see a lot more in Mexico than Colombia.
ZoomLens2013
05-08-17, 10:01
A Facebook friend of mine recently posted on her page that she went out for a stroll the other night, around 11 pm. While she was walking, a car passed her, then turned around to, apparently, come back for her. She said this happened as many as 3 times before she made it back to her driveway. Each time, she did what she could to hide from this person, as she was alert enough to know what was going on. This woman is NOT a SW and lives in a decent area of town not far from me. I'm just curious if her experience is typical for women walking around at night, regardless of the location. Yes, I realize I'm jumping to conclusions, but she certainly felt uncomfortable with the situation. Was this a monger, or some other nefarious character?
WhiteNite2000
05-08-17, 15:37
A Facebook friend of mine recently posted on her page that she went out for a stroll the other night, around 11 pm. While she was walking, a car passed her, then turned around to, apparently, come back for her. She said this happened as many as 3 times before she made it back to her driveway. Each time, she did what she could to hide from this person, as she was alert enough to know what was going on. This woman is NOT a SW and lives in a decent area of town not far from me. I'm just curious if her experience is typical for women walking around at night, regardless of the location. Yes, I realize I'm jumping to conclusions, but she certainly felt uncomfortable with the situation. Was this a monger, or some other nefarious character?I think using good judgement should also dictate ones decision despite the rights we might have. A young, perhaps, attractive girl walking at night in just about any neighborhood is just not a good idea. Too many things can happen to the young and vulnerable. It's strange that she reached the conclusion that the guy was looking for a SWer versus a guy who just saw an attractive woman he wanted to holler at. It could have been either one but she appeared to have leaned towards the former. Anyway, if she was my friend and she wanted to take walks at night, better if she takes another person with her, preferably a male, but even another female is better than being by yourself or even walking a nice size dog.
So I scooped a girl last week I saw outside Eagle. Took a little longer than normal to get in my ride. Said she doesn't SW. She was cool at first as we drove to find a spot. Agreed of 40 for a car date. It was day time and it took a while to find a spot. Then she got to asking how long I it was going to take for me to cum. We had not even parked yet. But when we got smashing she got all into it to my surprise and we had fun for good amount of time. Said for another 40 and some grub she would come back to my place for more action. Told her call me later but I missed her call. She didn't have digits.
So this week I set out to find her again. Bingo. Found her outside Scottish with her SD. Agreed to meet a certain spot later that evening. To my surprise with no phone or car she came walking up on time. Agreed to some fun if I got her a room put in her name. Everything was going good. Got to the room. She showered talked and on to the fun. Getting it I'm an she caught a couple Os. Mumbling shit I wasn't sure what she was saying. Then I guess it turn Crack O'clock because she got up and said she was done. I didn't even but yet. Now what was such a cool chick mask if off. Saying how she normally don't do nothing for less than 100. And how I tried her twice knowing that. WTF. Told her you agreed to it. You could have just said no. She said well she standing up for herself now. Then talking about how she still has to go out to make money for the rest if the night items. Now I'm getting heated. Said she would pay me half the room next time she see me. Hoe I ain't going to see yo ass again after this shit. This hoe had her clothes off since the moment we got there. We been there a couple hours at that point. She said would you just go so I can get dressed. So I picked up my phone off the nightstand. I also swooped her I. D. That was beside it. Left the hotel and tossed it out the window on the highway.
A replacement I. D. Is a little over 30 plus the time it will take to go to the DMV to get it. Pay that back hoe. I just cost you time and money.
WhiteNite2000
05-08-17, 23:39
So I scooped a girl last week I saw outside Eagle. Took a little longer than normal to get in my ride. Said she doesn't SW. She was cool at first as we drove to find a spot. Agreed of 40 for a car date. It was day time and it took a while to find a spot. Then she got to asking how long I it was going to take for me to cum. We had not even parked yet. But when we got smashing she got all into it to my surprise and we had fun for good amount of time. Said for another 40 and some grub she would come back to my place for more action. Told her call me later but I missed her call. She didn't have digits.
So this week I set out to find her again. Bingo. Found her outside Scottish with her SD. Agreed to meet a certain spot later that evening. To my surprise with no phone or car she came walking up on time. Agreed to some fun if I got her a room put in her name. Everything was going good. Got to the room. She showered talked and on to the fun. Getting it I'm an she caught a couple Os. Mumbling shit I wasn't sure what she was saying. Then I guess it turn Crack O'clock because she got up and said she was done. I didn't even but yet. Now what was such a cool chick mask if off. Saying how she normally don't do nothing for less than 100. And how I tried her twice knowing that. WTF. Told her you agreed to it. You could have just said no. She said well she standing up for herself now. Then talking about how she still has to go out to make money for the rest if the night items. Now I'm getting heated. Said she would pay me half the room next time she see me. Hoe I ain't going to see yo ass again after this shit. This hoe had her clothes off since the moment we got there. We been there a couple hours at that point. She said would you just go so I can get dressed. So I picked up my phone off the nightstand. I also swooped her I. D. That was beside it. Left the hotel and tossed it out the window on the highway.
A replacement I. D. Is a little over 30 plus the time it will take to go to the DMV to get it. Pay that back hoe. I just cost you time and money.I too just saw a young lady from BP. When I finally saw who it was that I'd be seeing, I quickly remembered I used to see her near the airport. She was actually looking better. She was so nice and sweet initially but then Dr. Jekyll and Miss Hyde came out! She got angry / mad / impatient because I wanted to switch positions (I was well within my 15 minutes). When I noticed her shitty attitude, I began to go soft. I tried to explain to her silly ass that clients don't like to see when girls get attitudes as some of us get that kind of shit from home. I told her if I am paying for it, I don't need your attitude!
So Cantb1, I'm going to one up you! I initially said forget it! I told her I'm going to stop and she can keep the money and I explained that the attitude was not professional at all. I decided I wasn't going to finish because her attitude had gotten worse by the second. I don't know if it was the hit from the weed she took or what but as I am getting dressed, I noticed she still hadn't touched the money (her fatal mistake). Then I thought to myself, if I can get positioned to grab MY donation and book, I'll take a shot! I guess that heifer was so high, she didn't see when I scooped MY donation and hightailed out of there! Then comes the texts about I got your license plate number and such. Yeah right, you were too damn high to even think about that. So anyhow, the kid got his 60 and got the phuck out of dodge! Next time, perhaps she will be nice to her clients and a little more professional! Stupid ass!
On a side note, I was able to see my under the radar pharmacy tech who has one of the best attitudes in the biz on quick notice! Would see her in a heartbeat! As patient as can be!
So I scooped a girl last week I saw outside Eagle. Took a little longer than normal to get in my ride. Said she doesn't SW. She was cool at first as we drove to find a spot. Agreed of 40 for a car date. It was day time and it took a while to find a spot. Then she got to asking how long I it was going to take for me to cum. We had not even parked yet. But when we got smashing she got all into it to my surprise and we had fun for good amount of time. Said for another 40 and some grub she would come back to my place for more action. Told her call me later but I missed her call. She didn't have digits.
So this week I set out to find her again. Bingo. Found her outside Scottish with her SD. Agreed to meet a certain spot later that evening. To my surprise with no phone or car she came walking up on time. Agreed to some fun if I got her a room put in her name. Everything was going good. Got to the room. She showered talked and on to the fun. Getting it I'm an she caught a couple Os. Mumbling shit I wasn't sure what she was saying. Then I guess it turn Crack O'clock because she got up and said she was done. I didn't even but yet. Now what was such a cool chick mask if off. Saying how she normally don't do nothing for less than 100. And how I tried her twice knowing that. WTF. Told her you agreed to it. You could have just said no. She said well she standing up for herself now. Then talking about how she still has to go out to make money for the rest if the night items. Now I'm getting heated. Said she would pay me half the room next time she see me. Hoe I ain't going to see yo ass again after this shit. This hoe had her clothes off since the moment we got there. We been there a couple hours at that point. She said would you just go so I can get dressed. So I picked up my phone off the nightstand. I also swooped her I. D. That was beside it. Left the hotel and tossed it out the window on the highway.
A replacement I. D. Is a little over 30 plus the time it will take to go to the DMV to get it. Pay that back hoe. I just cost you time and money.It gets better, chances are she will not have the required documents to get a replacement I'd. Good job!
"In-Person FL I'd Replacement.
The Division of Driver Licenses office will ask to see proof of your identity, Social Security number, and residential address. You will have to pay a replacement fee of $25.
Proof of identity (1 document). Examples are:
A valid, unexpired USA Passport.
Original or certified copy of a birth certificate.
Certificate of Naturalization issued by the DHS.
For non-USA Citizens, please see "Non-USA Citizen FL I'd Requirements" below.
Social Security card.
If you do not have a Social Security number, the DHSMV requires that you bring a letter from the Social Security Administration indicating you were never issued one, plus an acceptable document proving your identity.
Proof of FL residency (2 documents). Examples are:
Deed, mortgage, or rental / lease agreement.
Florida voter registration card.
W-2 form or 1099 form. ".
FloridaBiker
05-09-17, 08:54
It gets better, chances are she will not have the required documents to get a replacement I'd. Good job!
"In-Person FL I'd Replacement.
The Division of Driver Licenses office will ask to see proof of your identity, Security number, and residential address. You will have to pay a replacement fee of $25
That is not accurate in all cases.
I have known a WSW for a long time and I took her in for a replacement D / L last Wed.
She did not have to produce any documents. They asked her DOB and SS #, compared her to the picture in their computer and gave her the license.
The requirement for all those documents is a 1 time event. When you do the document presentation they put a gold star on your license. After that no docs required.
The total cost was $32.
That is not accurate in all cases.
I have known a WSW for a long time and I took her in for a replacement D / L last Wed.
She did not have to produce any documents. They asked her DOB and SS #, compared her to the picture in their computer and gave her the license.
The requirement for all those documents is a 1 time event. When you do the document presentation they put a gold star on your license. After that no docs required.
The total cost was $32.I did the same thing for a hooker / friend in January. No documents were needed and cost was $32. The wait at the DMV was well over an hour.
FloridaBiker
05-09-17, 20:26
Didn't you just crack on me by saying there are a large number of Latina women who dye their hair blond?
Now lets try this Florida-Biker thing. Florida my ass. I bet you're from Maryland. Biker? Watch me hold my breath.I don't know where the hostility is coming from. I have made no blonde comments until my last post.
Sorry if you feel I am trying to get in your face. I'm not.
Born in JAX, went to University of Miami, I am a true FL native.
Liar. Why would you tell a lie like that? Don't the locals hate you enough.
I did the same thing for a hooker / friend in January. No documents were needed and cost was $32. The wait at the DMV was well over an hour.Not bad price but I hate waiting at DMV.
FloridaBiker
05-10-17, 06:51
Liar. Why would you tell a lie like that? .
LOL. I am fairly certain my birth certificate is correct.
FloridaBiker
05-10-17, 07:01
Sorry guys.
I didn't know Mothhunter was a known jerk.
He is now on my ignore list.
This troll has registered over 700 names, I'm tired of banning him. Add him to your ignore list if you don't want to see his posts
A Facebook friend of mine recently posted on her page that she went out for a stroll the other night, around 11 pm. While she was walking, a car passed her, then turned around to, apparently, come back for her. She said this happened as many as 3 times before she made it back to her driveway. Each time, she did what she could to hide from this person, as she was alert enough to know what was going on. This woman is NOT a SW and lives in a decent area of town not far from me. I'm just curious if her experience is typical for women walking around at night, regardless of the location. Yes, I realize I'm jumping to conclusions, but she certainly felt uncomfortable with the situation. Was this a monger, or some other nefarious character?Regardless of who it was, or what their intention was, just tell her to pull out her phone and point it at the vehicle. If the person becomes aggressive, and charges at her, chuck the phone into some hedges (where she can remember where it's at), and run as fast as possible into an area that she knows but will be difficult for someone relatively unfamiliar with the area to follow into.
Of course, at that point, if she has a monger phone, she could call 911, or if she chooses not to chuck her phone (so she can tell her attacker if he catches her that there's evidence of him on local video), she could use that.
I would've recommended NOT walking back to her personal driveway, but through a neighbor's backyard or four.
Man I swear the talent in Jax sucks lately.
Man I swear the talent in Jax sucks lately.I have had no trouble finding new talent. I can't believe how many ladies selling pussy on the side.
Jaunty Plow
05-13-17, 12:05
Would you be willing to share in your expertise on finding the new talent? I have not been hunting much, but BP seems to be slowly circling the drain.
I have had no trouble finding new talent. I can't believe how many ladies selling pussy on the side.
Would you be willing to share in your expertise on finding the new talent? I have not been hunting much, but BP seems to be slowly circling the drain.I won't make competition for myself. But a good way is insider trading. Plenty mongers here have UTRs they keep quiet about. I do plenty reviews but I keep a lot of secrets.
I have had no trouble finding new talent. I can't believe how many ladies selling pussy on the side.I been snagging some free pussy and p2 p on some of these dating just less drama paying for it.
Your UTR is at my house eating cookies, dumbass. Tall blond from Sweetwater.
You pay chicks to watch them eat cookies?
Now I have heard every fucking thing.
A2LMAO!
Just kiddin Boss, LOL. How many mothers you bang down in Gentina on Mothers Day today?
PB.
The VAST majority of hookers don't work Sundays and today isn't Mothers Day here. Down here Dia de la Madre is in October.
Sundays without football fucking suck.
A2
Your UTR is at my house eating cookies, dumbass. Tall blond from Sweetwater.
You pay chicks to watch them eat cookies?
Now I have heard every fucking thing.
A2Oh Shit. I ain't seen her in months. Tell her I said Happy Mother's Day If you the old dude she lived with for a while. Didn't she beat you up and you kicked her out?
Yes A2,
I just feed her dick but she eats well at his house. She been thick as fuck since moved her in a year ago. Now I know who this troll is. It all add up now. Lmao.
Your UTR is at my house eating cookies, dumbass. Tall blond from Sweetwater.
You pay chicks to watch them eat cookies?
Now I have heard every fucking thing.
A2Hilarious comment, watching girls eat can be sexy if they do it super slutty.
LMAO!
Just kiddin Boss, LOL. How many mothers you bang down in Gentina on Mothers Day today?
PB.
The VAST majority of hookers don't work Sundays and today isn't Mothers Day here. Down here Dia de la Madre is in October.
Sundays without football fucking suck.
A2You mean soccer right? -being that your in South America & all.
I can see why it would suck. W / the good percentage of the world loving soccer (or futbol for the non-Americans) I'm sure there's plenty of hot mamacita fans up in the stands. LOL.
PB.
Nope, if I meant futbal I would have said futbal. Today was the super classico in BsAs. I'm not a futbal hater, mostly because of the pictures you posted below, but I'm more of a football fan because I grew up with it. I know how futbal works, but I'm not a student of the game so I miss a lot about it and as with most Norte Americanos I find it a little slow.
A2
FloridaBiker
05-15-17, 05:14
He's in Philadelphia dork.
And he's still waiting for your pussy ass to show up.
A2A2:
Don't be so hard on MothHunter.
He was born without all the normal guy parts, so he never fully developed.
I have him blocked, so I can't see his feeble posts.
I think of him as the retarded cousin, everybody knows he is there and nobody pays any attention to him.
Miranda who said that her real name is "passion" (ha, more false advertising) turned out to be a grossly overweight SSBBW (think Jabba the Hutt from Star wars wearing a bikini)...She's a pig man, sloppy and extremely overweight. The woman stayed under the covers until after I had gotten into the room and gotten comfortable and dropped the donation... an elephant & gun couldn't stun that wild beast looking woman.My only question is "why"? If you accept this, you likely deserve the misadventure. Just saying.
Chris Shaft
05-15-17, 16:56
My only question is "why"? If you accept this, you likely deserve the misadventure. Just saying.I will occasionally TOFTT when there isn't any risk to me of great loss or danger. I've fvcked a fatty before and it doesn't bother me. I only posted this misadventure in the interest of helping the community (and for entertainment purposes) Was she a pig? Yes. Did I fvck the sht out of her and get my nut? Yes! Like I said, to me it's just part of the hobby. We don't always get what we deserve or deserve what we get, but it is what it is. Happy hunting.
Looks like Cantb1 is sitting on his couch making up stories.I'm on the level here. Talkin to you man to man: What is your beef w / people? What's your issue w / us?
I'm sure others on here is thinking that I'm wasting my time trying to have an open discussion w / you. That's fine. I would like to know what your problem is. Did one of us piss you off? Me? CB1?, MouthHunter? A2? Did someone do something to you or a favorite girl of yours? Are you having problems w / providers & resenting the other Mongers? What? Come to us in a mature-like manner & tell us what your deal is? You spend a lot of time & energy making negative stupid & irrelevant comments, generating new names for yourself, private messaging & basically being a nuisance to the site. Give us a minute & explain yourself.
Allan, Moth, whatever bogus handle you want to be called, the forum is yours. Speak your mind & tell us what your problem is. You can at least do that can't you? If you do decide to lay all out, do it w / some intelligence. No childish name-calling or derogatory comments. Is that askin too much? If you want to private message ol Poni, cool. But I'd much rather you just open up to the rest of the forum & tell us all why you are the way you are.
Just remember, if you DO PM me w / a bunch of stupid crap, I'll just play along, string you along, or just delete ya. Just like I've been doing.
So here ya go brother. Handing you the mic.
Be Safe & Speak Clearly.
PB.
Admirable PB but you are wasting your time brotherman
A2
Looking for a straight guy. LOL So can you cross over and come back again?
http://jacksonville.backpage.com/WomenSeekMen/kinky-str8-dude-wanted-no-charge/15223198
There's your answer. I'm being censored badly. On a prostitution website?
No, like the child you are, you are being kept in the corner.
A2Bcuz you feel you don't have to follow USASG rules? Really? And you feel bcuz you don't get your way, you feel the need to do all the shit you do? Really? You feel that trying to get a rise out of the other members as well as the moderator / s is going to relieve you & make things better for yourself? Is that your bottom line answer here?
What does the other members, who follow the rules, have anything to do w / your gripe w / this site? In my honest opinion you have some personal issues that probably need the attention of medical professionals. That's just my belief, I don't really know. But I DO get a strong feeling that maybe there's somethin goin in your life that's makes you compelled to burn time & energy doing all the shenanigans that you do.
I'm still on the level here & I'm not talking down to you. No name calling you like you did me. Portrays the type of mindset you have. I came to you respectful like & you couldn't help yourself causing yet another infraction.
There's 2 options you have & a suggestion I have for you brother.
1) Follow the site rules & modestly contribute your experiences.
2) Completely cancel your membership & leave USASG behind. Find another site that will tolerate & allow the liberty you're seeking.
3) I highly suggest you seek some help man. The energy you burn doing the shit you do is unhealthy & that's my honest to God opinion.
BeSafe & Seek Some Help brother.
PB.
This will be my last correspondence w / you whether it be publically or thru PM.
You taped a penis extension to your dick. You bent a girl over a toilet and stuck it in. You videotaped it with spy camera. And you claim I need help.
See what I mean? Seriously PB you're wasting your time.
A2So right A2. My apologies.
I was merely trying the diplomatic approach w / this guy in hopes to get some sort of rhyme or reasoning. Guess he's just wired way too loosely. LOL.
*throwin my hands up. I'm done anyways.
-PB.
Chris Shaft
05-21-17, 08:51
That's why I keep my circle very small and just deal with people that I know that aren't strung out on dope. My personal experience is that if you make a friendship out of the sack with them is when you do get in the sack it is more enjoyable. We all have to realize that at the end of the day the provider is human just like us. They have feelings, fears, concerns, bills and every day struggles just as we do. I understand variety is the spice of life for many mongers but I personally will forgo that for a level of comfort with a great provider. IMHO that cuts out a lot of stress on my part. I don't have to worry about Robberies pimps etc. It has also provided me with true friendships that I truly enjoy.But are you fucking nuts? I understand that you feel a certain closeness with these women especially considering the intimate nature of the hobby, but truth be told, this sounds like some delusional shit that you are on. How you going to be friends with someone who you have to pay in order to have sex with you? Once you have become "friends" did the dynamic of your relationship with these women change and now suddenly you are hanging out with them in a social situation and getting the pussy for free? Did the situation reverse itself and now they are paying you for your time and companionship? I'm not hating on you but this kind of thinking is naive at best and can be very very dangerous. The very nature of what we do in the hobby could be construed as "illegal" by a certain perspective. So you could very easily get caught up as "guilty by association". It happens all the time, nice guy hanging with a provider, giving her a ride or just hanging out in her circle. You are setting yourself up for a visit to uncle LEO s romper room or getting jacked. Birds of a feather flock together. Don't get caught up because you thought it was cool hanging out with a provider. Find safer / better friends outside of the hobby man. Just my 2.
Hey Playa
I moved all of these to the fight thread where they belong.
BTW, am I fucking nuts as well? I gotta few friends that are hookers. It's kinda easy, if we hang out and I fuck them I give them money. If we hang out and I don't fuck them I don't give them money.
I have another friend who's an accountant, when he balances my books I give him money, when he doesn't I don't. My lawyer buddy doesn't get paid unless he does some legal shit for me. It's not hard.
Now, I've never known a hooker that wanted to pay for their own dinner or coffee if we go to supper but I don't mind picking up that tab, it's worth the money for me to have dinner or coffee with a woman half my age.
A2
Chris Shaft
05-21-17, 09:08
Can you really know if any provider is trustworthy or not by spending a few minutes at a time? I used to think there were some trustworthy hookers than I was proven wrong. Repeatedly.Hell, how many people do you know in general who are trustworthy? Funny thing is a monger will trust and believe the sob stories and tall tales that these providers spin and generally trust these hoes more readily than they would a regular civilian in the street. Truth be told whether you admit it to yourself or not, a monger does nice things for these hoes in order to try and gain their favor, in the hope that one day you will have a fairy tale happy ending and not have to pay for the poonay anymore. Wake up fools, she ain't Julie Roberts and this ain't the movie pretty woman. She's a hoe out here tricking for dough and we are the marks that support her "real" lifestyle. Yes be respectful and cordial and if you find one or two that you have a good working relationship with that's great, but never lose sight of the fact that they one thing that is a fact is that if a hoe will fuck you for loot, she will have no problem stealing, robbing you or putting you in the mix to save her own skin. Self preservation is the law of the jungle.
Chris Shaft
05-21-17, 09:17
Some of these Providers turn into real chatter boxes once they get comfortable around you. I have had a few tell me: My Driver remembered bringing "so and so" to see you. I get a chuckle out of it, LOL. I'm not sure if it's a good or bad thing. I do know it gives me thought as to which cliques certain Providers belong to. I wonder if Drivers, Pimps, and DB's read this forum as well.Dude WTF? Do you really think that it is good that not only does this hoe know where you stay, but now her driver is sharing stories and information about you being with other providers? My man, you should not be laughing you should be very concerned because now you have been identified as a MARK. I mean what do you think they are saying about you when they talk about you amongst themselves? They know where you live, they know your proclivities, they know what you look like, and they are sharing that information amongst themselves and probably many other in their circle. Seems like a set up waiting to happen. The only thing mongers have going for them is our relative anonymity. Once you lose that then you are a victim in the making. You can't trust a criminal and if you do then you are a fool.
WhiteNite2000
05-21-17, 18:49
Dude WTF? Do you really think that it is good that not only does this hoe know where you stay, but now her driver is sharing stories and information about you being with other providers? My man, you should not be laughing you should be very concerned because now you have been identified as a MARK. I mean what do you think they are saying about you when they talk about you amongst themselves? They know where you live, they know your proclivities, they know what you look like, and they are sharing that information amongst themselves and probably many other in their circle. Seems like a set up waiting to happen. The only thing mongers have going for them is our relative anonymity. Once you lose that then you are a victim in the making. You can't trust a criminal and if you do then you are a fool.In fact, I don't like girls who posts on this site knowing who I am as a poster because I think they might offer you up to LEO if you're not careful; after they get into a jam. Imagine, they get caught up in some hot ass mess and they tell LEO, "hey, I know a senior member on USA sex guide who has over 1000 posts who talked about paying a woman for coochie. " I know, call me paranoid but as Chris said, these women will pretty much throw you under the proverbial bus in a minute. When someone is trying to get your money, they are as nice as they can be and will have you walking away saying, "man, that's a cool as chick!" Yeah, sure they are! They are vying for your money! What else will they be? My SO does the same thing. Whenever she is very sweet, I know the snow job is coming- she wants something! LOL.
So it is, with these girls, I keep it biz. Like the girl I talked about in a previous review around 63rd and Main, this hoe will act as nice as she can be to get me to take chances with her ass (taking her to pick up drugs) but truth be told, this heifer will throw the kid under the bus! There was a guy in the SWer thread (years ago) who was with a SWer, got caught by LEO having a car date encounter with her. Once LEO came upon them, she threw the drugs in his back seat and 10's of thousands of dollars later, he was still trying to clear his name! These young ladies cannot; let me repeat, they CANNOT be trusted. Then again, we are grown ass men, so if you trust them, then trust on but it will be to your own hurt, I promise! Biz is biz and I will forever keep it that way as long as I am in this hobby; so-called.
UWishUWereMe
05-22-17, 08:08
But are you fucking nuts? I understand that you feel a certain closeness with these women especially considering the intimate nature of the hobby, but truth be told, this sounds like some delusional shit that you are on. How you going to be friends with someone who you have to pay in order to have sex with you? Once you have become "friends" did the dynamic of your relationship with these women change and now suddenly you are hanging out with them in a social situation and getting the pussy for free? Did the situation reverse itself and now they are paying you for your time and companionship? I'm not hating on you but this kind of thinking is naive at best and can be very very dangerous. The very nature of what we do in the hobby could be construed as "illegal" by a certain perspective. So you could very easily get caught up as "guilty by association". It happens all the time, nice guy hanging with a provider, giving her a ride or just hanging out in her circle. You are setting yourself up for a visit to uncle LEO s romper room or getting jacked. Birds of a feather flock together. Don't get caught up because you thought it was cool hanging out with a provider. Find safer / better friends outside of the hobby man. Just my 2.
Hey Playa
I moved all of these to the fight thread where they belong.
BTW, am I fucking nuts as well? I gotta few friends that are hookers. It's kinda easy, if we hang out and I fuck them I give them money. If we hang out and I don't fuck them I don't give them money.
I have another friend who's an accountant, when he balances my books I give him money, when he doesn't I don't. My lawyer buddy doesn't get paid unless he does some legal shit for me. It's not hard.
Now, I've never known a hooker that wanted to pay for their own dinner or coffee if we go to supper but I don't mind picking up that tab, it's worth the money for me to have dinner or coffee with a woman half my age.
A2Well call it what you want but one of my provider friends has helped me pay for my wife's treatment for a medical condition. Numerous insurance co pays have been paid by her. Not even asking for reimbursement. So yeah. I call her a friend. Same provider has taken me out many times for dinner on her. Yeah I call that a friend. I must agree 99% of the ladies are crazy as hell but when you find the one or two in the haystack that aren't hold onto them. That's all I was saying.
Rick Dugan
05-22-17, 11:24
But are you fucking nuts? I understand that you feel a certain closeness with these women especially considering the intimate nature of the hobby, but truth be told, this sounds like some delusional shit that you are on. How you going to be friends with someone who you have to pay in order to have sex with you? Once you have become "friends" did the dynamic of your relationship with these women change and now suddenly you are hanging out with them in a social situation and getting the pussy for free? Did the situation reverse itself and now they are paying you for your time and companionship? I'm not hating on you but this kind of thinking is naive at best and can be very very dangerous. The very nature of what we do in the hobby could be construed as "illegal" by a certain perspective. So you could very easily get caught up as "guilty by association". It happens all the time, nice guy hanging with a provider, giving her a ride or just hanging out in her circle. You are setting yourself up for a visit to uncle LEO s romper room or getting jacked. Birds of a feather flock together. Don't get caught up because you thought it was cool hanging out with a provider. Find safer / better friends outside of the hobby man. Just my 2.
Hey Playa
I moved all of these to the fight thread where they belong.
BTW, am I fucking nuts as well? I gotta few friends that are hookers. It's kinda easy, if we hang out and I fuck them I give them money. If we hang out and I don't fuck them I don't give them money.
I have another friend who's an accountant, when he balances my books I give him money, when he doesn't I don't. My lawyer buddy doesn't get paid unless he does some legal shit for me. It's not hard.
Now, I've never known a hooker that wanted to pay for their own dinner or coffee if we go to supper but I don't mind picking up that tab, it's worth the money for me to have dinner or coffee with a woman half my age.
A2I don't know. As much as I hate to admit this, I agree with the troll on this one. I've been doing this for 20 years, which is certainly not as long as many around here, but long enough to have been around the block a few times. I have never, not once, seen a happy ending when an older dude tries to treat a much younger adult entertainer (be it a stripper, escort or some hybrid) as a "friend. " Almost invariably, the older dude in question ends up being used for something or multiple things and eventually learns that he was deluding himself about the nature of the relationship. Once you pay a girl for sex, you will almost always be, first and foremost, a guy who pays her for sex. We all know of exceptions to this, but they are called exceptions for a reason. Loyalty (in almost any form) is not high on the list of personality strengths for most of these girls, probably because many of these girls cannot see past their own internal emotional messes. In my humble opinion, true friendships are best found in places where the parties are more likely to feel true respect for one another and are capable of empathizing with others.
Also, in extreme cases, these guys go so far down the rabbit hole that they start getting sucked into these girls' shit lives in unhealthy and / or unsafe ways. These are the guys who crave the drama that comes with some of these so-called friendships, I often suspect because they have so little else going on in their lives. Maybe it's worth it for them. I don't know. But I will agree with the troll (ugh) that healthy long-term friendships are better sought elsewhere.
Dude, you're not in Argentina. Unfortunately you're not a monger. You're Philadelphia chump who works on a horrid little website. Your sitting behind a computer right now. The only question is what's your day job.
See what I mean PB, he's been saying this shit to me for years, I usually just delete it. It doesn't matter how many guys have met me down here, he just keeps fucking saying it.
He's a sad and pathetic little man who's mom is probably telling him everyday to get out of the basement and get a job.
A2Actually Mr. Troll lives on the westside with a tall blonde hooker he saved from Hooterville.
My money says he's seriously into pegging.
A2
WhiteNite2000
05-22-17, 12:35
I don't know. As much as I hate to admit this, I agree with the troll on this one. I've been doing this for 20 years, which is certainly not as long as many around here, but long enough to have been around the block a few times. I have never, not once, seen a happy ending when an older dude tries to treat a much younger adult entertainer (be it a stripper, escort or some hybrid) as a "friend. " Almost invariably, the older dude in question ends up being used for something or multiple things and eventually learns that he was deluding himself about the nature of the relationship. Once you pay a girl for sex, you will almost always be, first and foremost, a guy who pays her for sex. We all know of exceptions to this, but they are called exceptions for a reason. Loyalty (in almost any form) is not high on the list of personality strengths for most of these girls, probably because many of these girls cannot see past their own internal emotional messes. In my humble opinion, true friendships are best found in places where the parties are more likely to feel true respect for one another and are capable of empathizing with others.
Also, in extreme cases, these guys go so far down the rabbit hole that they start getting sucked into these girls' shit lives in unhealthy and / or unsafe ways. These are the guys who crave the drama that comes with some of these so-called friendships, I often suspect because they have so little else going on in their lives. Maybe it's worth it for them. I don't know. But I will agree with the troll (ugh) that healthy long-term friendships are better sought elsewhere.So sad but very true. Deep down, these girls stop respecting you once you start paying them for sex. I had many hookers chide me (after they became angry with me about whatever) for paying for sex and I mean they lay you out in the worst of ways. They say things like, "that's why your old ass have to pay for sex!" When I say old, I mean an 18 y/o talking to a 38 y/o plus man. Anyone near 40 is old to them! LOL.
ZoomLens2013
05-22-17, 16:05
Hello fellas,
Looking for some Intel on decent day-use hotels in the area, something nicer than Kings Inn and the like. My secret girlfriend deserves a little better than those style places. (No offense to those of you who may frequent them) LOL.
Dude, you're not in Argentina. Unfortunately you're not a monger. You're Philadelphia chump who works on a horrid little website. Your sitting behind a computer right now. The only question is what's your day job.
See what I mean PB, he's been saying this shit to me for years, I usually just delete it. It doesn't matter how many guys have met me down here, he just keeps fucking saying it.
He's a sad and pathetic little man who's mom is probably telling him everyday to get out of the basement and get a job.
A2I gotcha boss! LOL.
In my last post (referring to our "special" member), I forgot to ask: What's that one cake that gets passed around as a gift during Christmas, bcuz everybody fuckin despises it?
The answer sums up our troll.
PB.
MouthHunter
05-22-17, 20:20
Hello fellas,
Looking for some Intel on decent day-use hotels in the area, something nicer than Kings Inn and the like. My secret girlfriend deserves a little better than those style places. (No offense to those of you who may frequent them) LOL.But I got to be able to use your girl!!
But I got to be able to use your girl!!Bring her over to Poni's Pleasure Palace! I got two spare bedrooms. You can relax in one; me & -well ya know. 😁.
BSafe ShareIfUCare.
-PB.
ZoomLens2013
05-22-17, 23:19
Kind offer, brother. This chic is a one man girl, so she wouldn't even be open to the suggestion. LOL.
But I got to be able to use your girl!!
Chris Shaft
05-23-17, 03:50
Well call it what you want but one of my provider friends has helped me pay for my wife's treatment for a medical condition. Numerous insurance co pays have been paid by her. Not even asking for reimbursement. So yeah. I call her a friend. Same provider has taken me out many times for dinner on her. Yeah I call that a friend. I must agree 99% of the ladies are crazy as hell but when you find the one or two in the haystack that aren't hold onto them. That's all I was saying.One of your provider friends has given you money without reimbursement? Do you not see the irony in that statement? If someone who you have been paying gives you money back then it's either a refund or a rebate LOL 😂 Dude, you've probably given her 10 times as much as she's given back to you. All she is doing is giving you a little of your own money back, so how generous is that? And if you are still having to pay for the pussy then you are just deluding your self. I had a provider tell me after a particularly good session that she enjoyed my company so much that she was taking me out to dinner and afterwards for frozen yogurt. When all was said and done our dinner date and dessert came up to about half of what she charged me. When we got back to her room she chided me saying "damn, you're an expensive date" LOL. The while time I was thinking to myself "yeah, but you used my money to pay the bill". A provider can afford to be very generous. When they are using your money.
Chris Shaft
05-23-17, 04:14
"Hey Playa.
I moved all of these to the fight thread where they belong.
BTW, am I fucking nuts as well? I got to few friends that are hookers. It's kinda easy, if we hang out and I fuck them I give them money. If we hang out and I don't fuck them I don't give them money.
I have another friend who's an accountant, when he balances my books I give him money, when he doesn't I don't. My lawyer buddy doesn't get paid unless he does some legal shit for me. It's not hard.
Now, I've never known a hooker that wanted to pay for their own dinner or coffee if we go to supper but I don't mind picking up that tab, it's worth the money for me to have dinner or coffee with a woman half my age.
A2".
See, this illustrates my point exactly. No disrespect to anyone and to each his own; whatever helps you to sleep at night. But the examples you have given are the very reason why mongers get taken to the cleaners by these hoes. If you have friends that do things for you and you have to compensate them for their services then I would question your definition of the word "friendship". Don't get me wrong, I have many professional acquaintances that I am cool with socially that I also do business with, but if I'm looking to profit from our relationship, we definitely are not / cannot be friends. My friends are few and far between, but I would never charge them a dime if they needed something from me and vice versa. If I have it and they need it then they get it and I don't worry about any recompense because I know that they have my back too. Further to the point, there's probably less risk involved in hanging out with your lawyer or accountant (hopefully) than some hooker / provider. I've made the mistake of tarrying too long after a session with a provider or taking them out in public and it is never a good thing. Either some monger, drug dealer, another hoe or some other unsavory person will see you together or stop by Unexpectedly" and you have to endure that awkward moment when you know that they know that she's a hoe and you're her date. Or if the chick is really nefarious you run the risk of being guilty by association and getting pinched by LEO and being accused of being her accomplice, pimp or driver. The shit we do in this hobby can be very sketchy and anyone who has spent any time around these girls should know the risks and the dangers. I've watched providers self medicate, purchase and deal and set up dates with other mongers while I was just hanging out with them. They are hustlers first and foremost. You might eventually gain their limited "trust" but they will never forget that at the end of the day, you're a guy that had to pay them for the pussy. Just my 2.
Chris Shaft
05-23-17, 04:33
So sad but very true. Deep down, these girls stop respecting you once you start paying them for sex. I had many hookers chide me (after they became angry with me about whatever) for paying for sex and I mean they lay you out in the worst of ways. They say things like, "that's why your old ass have to pay for sex!" When I say old, I mean an 18 y/o talking to a 38 y/o plus man. Anyone near 40 is old to them! LOL.I second that motion. This is a great topic for sure because it definitely demonstrates the mentality and psychology of the dynamic between tricks, hoes, marks and johns. I kid you not, I literally just had this conversation with a provider who I was just hanging out with for a few hours. Long story short this chick and I had a hotel-room-confessions session where she told me her whole life story and how she ended up trickin for dough. We all know it ultimately turned out to be that she does it to feed her addiction. And she's no ordinary hoe either, this chick comes from money, has affluent parents, is well educated, owned a very successful business and still looks fine asf, and was easily a 10 before she got hooked on the shit. She said that the money she gets from BP dates comes so easily that she couldn't imagine going back into civilian life and even if she did, she would still keep doing dates on the side. I promise you this chick could walk into any place right now and 7 out of 10 dudes wouldn't hesitate to propose marriage to her. I mean we had a good long talk, and even she was surprised by how freely she was offering up real private details of her life (which she even verified for some odd reason). Funny thing is after all of that, when we finally got done with the "business" she immediately shut down and became distant and poof just like that the connection was gone. We both got dressed without saying much and a very awkward farewell we were done.
I'm going to keep hammering you on this because you really don't know what the fuck you're talking about. If you can't turn a ho into a housewife, how do you explain the 10 or 15 guys I know who's housewives used to be ho's, have been together for years, and have really good relationships? Am I imaging this, is it a dream like when Bobby died on Dallas?
A2
Chris Shaft
05-23-17, 04:54
I don't know. As much as I hate to admit this, I agree with the troll on this one. I've been doing this for 20 years, which is certainly not as long as many around here, but long enough to have been around the block a few times. I have never, not once, seen a happy ending when an older dude tries to treat a much younger adult entertainer (be it a stripper, escort or some hybrid) as a "friend. " Almost invariably, the older dude in question ends up being used for something or multiple things and eventually learns that he was deluding himself about the nature of the relationship. Once you pay a girl for sex, you will almost always be, first and foremost, a guy who pays her for sex. We all know of exceptions to this, but they are called exceptions for a reason. Loyalty (in almost any form) is not high on the list of personality strengths for most of these girls, probably because many of these girls cannot see past their own internal emotional messes. In my humble opinion, true friendships are best found in places where the parties are more likely to feel true respect for one another and are capable of empathizing with others.
Also, in extreme cases, these guys go so far down the rabbit hole that they start getting sucked into these girls' shit lives in unhealthy and / or unsafe ways. These are the guys who crave the drama that comes with some of these so-called friendships, I often suspect because they have so little else going on in their lives. Maybe it's worth it for them. I don't know. But I will agree with the troll (ugh) that healthy long-term friendships are better sought elsewhere.I absolutely agree with everything that was said. The inherent risks associated with the hobby and the allure and mystique of the lifestyles that these girls lead can be very enticing and entertaining. Never a dull moment with these girls, the danger and stigma of hanging out with bad company can be an adrenaline rush. From a psychological standpoint it's very similar to any other form of thrill seeking that provides an intense rush with the excitement building up to a climax, and then the resolution and loss of urgency and immediate interest. Most people have to actually do the deed in order to get the physical and psychological release. I would wager that for many mongers, the actual sex act itself is less important than the thrill of the hunt, subsequent conquest and the ensuing trophies (in the form of stories, memories or other artifacts from the encounter).
I've been gone from this site for some time because I had moved to the Midwest. I am now back and the site is different. I'm not sure where to find any of the ladies. I'm looking for a good massage with HE so any and all recommendations will be appreciated.
I've been gone from this site for some time because I had moved to the Midwest. I am now back and the site is different. I'm not sure where to find any of the ladies. I'm looking for a good massage with HE so any and all recommendations will be appreciated.She advertises on CL. She is a cute spinner from China. I've seen her a few times and always left after a 1 hr massage relaxed and happy for 5 jacksons for. Some have mentiones no luck. But I've never had an issue. She is not the girl in the pix. But pretty close.
https://jacksonville.craigslist.org/thp/6144766339.html
Chris Shaft
05-24-17, 05:49
I second that motion. This is a great topic for sure because it definitely demonstrates the mentality and psychology of the dynamic between tricks, hoes, marks and johns. I kid you not, I literally just had this conversation with a provider who I was just hanging out with for a few hours. Long story short this chick and I had a hotel-room-confessions session where she told me her whole life story and how she ended up trickin for dough. We all know it ultimately turned out to be that she does it to feed her addiction. And she's no ordinary hoe either, this chick comes from money, has affluent parents, is well educated, owned a very successful business and still looks fine asf, and was easily a 10 before she got hooked on the shit. She said that the money she gets from BP dates comes so easily that she couldn't imagine going back into civilian life and even if she did, she would still keep doing dates on the side. I promise you this chick could walk into any place right now and 7 out of 10 dudes wouldn't hesitate to propose marriage to her. I mean we had a good long talk, and even she was surprised by how freely she was offering up real private details of her life (which she even verified for some odd reason). Funny thing is after all of that, when we finally got done with the "business" she immediately shut down and became distant and poof just like that the connection was gone. We both got dressed without saying much and a very awkward farewell we were done.
I'm going to keep hammering you on this because you really don't know what the fuck you're talking about. If you can't turn a ho into a housewife, how do you explain the 10 or 15 guys I know who's housewives used to be ho's, have been together for years, and have really good relationships? Am I imaging this, is it a dream like when Bobby died on Dallas?
A2LOL so you don't have first hand knowledge is what you're saying. You've never done it but you know 10-15 guys who have really good relationships with former ******? How do you know what the dynamic of their relationships are and what goes on behind closed doors. Damn son you really are a fucking fool and it seems like you associate with other fools who share the same delusional beliefs. Just because you marry a hoe doesn't mean that she is suddenly Mary Tyler Moore LOL. I'd wager that your friends are still paying for that pussy, the only difference is that these hoes are living under the same roof as them. Yes you are dreaming my man and you need to wake the fuck up. It's guys like you with this Captain Save-a-hoe mentally that put these cunts on a pedestal and have them believing that their shit don't stink. And for your friends who end up wifeing these hoes, how hard is it to marry a ***** who has got about a thousand dicks under her belt? LOL that ***** has been riden hard, fucked out, used and abused by the squad and now this is your showpiece? Get the fuk out of here. That's like being the guy who buys a used car with 300 k miles and tells everyone that he is driving a new Mercedes Benz LOL.
LOL so you don't have first hand knowledge is what you're saying. You've never done it but you know 10-15 guys who have really good relationships with former ******? How do you know what the dynamic of their relationships are and what goes on behind closed doors. Damn son you really are a fucking fool and it seems like you associate with other fools who share the same delusional beliefs. Just because you marry a hoe doesn't mean that she is suddenly Mary Tyler Moore LOL. I'd wager that your friends are still paying for that pussy, the only difference is that these hoes are living under the same roof as them. Yes you are dreaming my man and you need to wake the fuck up. It's guys like you with this Captain Save-a-hoe mentally that put these cunts on a pedestal and have them believing that their shit don't stink. And for your friends who end up wifeing these hoes, how hard is it to marry a ***** who has got about a thousand dicks under her belt? LOL that ***** has been riden hard, fucked out, used and abused by the squad and now this is your showpiece? Get the fuk out of here. That's like being the guy who buys a used car with 300 k miles and tells everyone that he is driving a new Mercedes Benz LOL.There is no doubt one of us is a fool and I'm also pretty sure that most people can see which one that is.
Rick Dugan
05-24-17, 11:39
LOL so you don't have first hand knowledge is what you're saying. You've never done it but you know 10-15 guys who have really good relationships with former ******? How do you know what the dynamic of their relationships are and what goes on behind closed doors. Damn son you really are a fucking fool and it seems like you associate with other fools who share the same delusional beliefs. Just because you marry a hoe doesn't mean that she is suddenly Mary Tyler Moore LOL. I'd wager that your friends are still paying for that pussy, the only difference is that these hoes are living under the same roof as them. Yes you are dreaming my man and you need to wake the fuck up. It's guys like you with this Captain Save-a-hoe mentally that put these cunts on a pedestal and have them believing that their shit don't stink. And for your friends who end up wifeing these hoes, how hard is it to marry a ***** who has got about a thousand dicks under her belt? LOL that ***** has been riden hard, fucked out, used and abused by the squad and now this is your showpiece? Get the fuk out of here. That's like being the guy who buys a used car with 300 k miles and tells everyone that he is driving a new Mercedes Benz LOL.I agreed with you up to a point, but that went too far. You don't know what his experiences are or what he has seen. There is also no need to call these girls cunts just because many of them are not cut out for the domestic life and choose alternate paths.
But my own experiences are similar to yours in that most guys that I've seen do it end up being sorry when they get involved with sex workers. Many of these girls are doing these jobs for a reason, which is that a vanilla life just isn't all that appealing to them. But some of these girls get tired, burnt out or just crave some security, at which time a vanilla life suddenly becomes much more appealing. But almost every one of these situations that I have seen has gone bad sooner or later, often with the girls chafing in these controlled lifestyles and eventually flaking out in some way. Sadly, all too often there are children in the mix when things go sour.
Now none of this is meant to be critical of either side. The heart wants what it wants. Also, some people just don't value the same things that others do and / or cannot handle the tedium of a domestic lifestyle. It is what it is. But if I have to blame anyone, then I actually blame the guys, who should know better than to fish for an SO from the escort or stripper professions. Just like I don't go to Lakeshore Community College to find a rocket scientist, neither should one go to Backpage or a strip club looking for the next mother of his children.
Rustysh1990
05-24-17, 16:20
https://encyclopediadramatica.rs/index.php?title=USASexGuide_Forum&diff=prev&oldid=9764?title=USASexGuide_Forum&diff=prev&oldid=9764
Chris Shaft
05-24-17, 21:26
There is no doubt one of us is a fool and I'm also pretty sure that most people can see which one that is.How did you become the admin of a site like this with that mentality?
Seriously, is that the best you have? I'm disappointed.
To answer the question; by being exceptionally good at my job. By having a deep understanding of the possibilities of this market and by paying attention. But mostly because I'm particularly adept at handling trolls.
A2
Here, these are some of women who have been riden hard, fucked out, used and abused by the squad;
http://www.bairesgirls.net/escorts/Brianda_15-6459-7357_16149.htm
http://www.bairesgirls.net/escorts/Adriana_15-3949-8246_14834.htm
http://www.bairesgirls.net/escorts/Bruninha_15-3073-2207_15914.htm
http://www.bairesgirls.net/escorts/Maga_15-5731-2444_15266.htm
http://www.bairesgirls.net/escorts/Delfy_15-6657-6706_14996.htm
http://www.bairesgirls.net/escorts/Xiomara_15-2610-6683_16135.htm
I have had my dick inside of each of them and 100% they are the chicks in the pictures and each of them fucks like a pornstar.
I'm sorry you don't have access to this kind of talent but I find dumb fuck wanna be pimps like you that **** shame women because they frighten you offensive.
Where I live it's a different game and trust me if you ever find yourself in South America saying this "And for your friends who end up wifeing these hoes, how hard is it to marry a ***** who has got about a thousand dicks under her belt?: in front of any of the guys I'm talking about would be without question not only the worst mistake you ever made it would most likely be your last.
That isn't me threatening you, I could give a fuck less about stupid fucks like you, that's a word to the wise.
A2
Bobb Sledd
05-25-17, 02:52
https://encyclopediadramatica.rs/index.php?title=USASexGuide_Forum&diff=prev&oldid=9764?title=USASexGuide_Forum&diff=prev&oldid=9764Well, we now know what the troll does with his free time.
Chris Shaft
05-25-17, 06:23
[Deleted by Admin]
Time to take out the trash.
Good luck trolling some angry cat forum or wherever you go next because you were never here for the pussy anyway.
Best of luck
A2
PS for wherever you're trolling next. You can't tell somebody you won't dignify what they have said with a remark, while you are remarking about what they said.
Dude,
Nobody cares about Russian Katie other than you. LOL We have moved on and I suggest you do to. She been out the hobby for over a year and you still got a hard on for her.Well, can't be, weve had our disagreements before, and I guess our only connection is with Russia, but if no one gave a f, no one would make a comment besides you. Look, I'll try to make this short and sweet, Russia was and still is the finest b that ever was created within duval county lines. Everybody can see the shortage of decent looking women ever since russia left bp and streets almost a year ago. Its slim pickings nowadays and they are still almost as crazy as she is without the looks. About 95% of that news broadcast is all bullshit from what was talked about on that news broadcast so obviously she's trying to fool somebody that she's found jesus. Ill make 2 quick points. She hasnt been clean for a year and a half as stated. I took her home finally for supposedly the last time way less than a year ago. She aint been clean for no yr and a half. And at least 7 months preg from the newest father which aint me according to somewhat reliable fam and the net. Look, she forced me on illegal, uh shall we say, intoxicants but she's a counsleor and going to open up a house for women she says? Oh, and the true story goes, and a victim yet she got others addicted herself. Holding her body and drugs over my head over this possible long term bs? Her own mother and grandmother encouraged her to strip at 17. Phillips came years later. Look, if its true, I want to know what she's takin currently cause she got me in this current mess. You want to know why I'm so pissed? I took care of that mental b and mom and granny for about as long as she says she's drug free. Trust me i probably had more time counseling this b more than any of you, and and maybe more than any of her fam besides her mom and granny, and within 2 weeks after she scams. She still a scammer but she doesnt need phillips, me or backpage to scam anymore. She uses other safer means. Cant be 1,everybody else be careful out there and dont ever let no bp hoes into your homes no matter what. Trust me i learned the hard way and no matter how long. I took that h to drs appointments, rehab,and the mental hospital and now her own mother let her own poor baby get preg again under her watch while she was on probation and rehab after arreast in feb 2016 , per news brobroadcast, and the new preg and new victim, wasnt even mentioned during the broadcast. This is 3 rd preg with 3 diff dudes and on rehab and probation under mommas watch after i let her go. obviously she cant clear name through courts so shes up to calling up the news to use some kind of sinister advantage to her and her fams next scam, which so far is to admit to her whole new fam or , at the least, her new employer (maybe mcdonalds) that shes a h so its no suprise if they found out later.
..she forced me on illegal, uh shall we say, intoxicants.This sounds absolutely retarded, did you sneak up on you and injected you with something? Either way she sounds batshit crazy.
This sounds absolutely retarded, did you sneak up on you and injected you with something? Either way she sounds batshit crazy.F she said take this or I'll leave or other sinister threats. She still left but I guess it bought me an xtra 6 months of time. The only intoxicant I knew prior, was booze and now its extremely hard to go back to. She introduced me to it and I'm still stuck. I wonder if shell counsel me now like her other new patients. Yah, she stuffed me with cr after she stabbed me with h. Was alotta blood around
Well, can't be, weve had our disagreements before, and I guess our only connection is with russia, but if no one gave a f, no one would make a comment besides you. Look, ill try to make this short and sweet, russia was and still is the finest b that ever was created within duval county lines. Everybody can see the shortage of decent looking women ever since russia left bp and streets almost a year ago. Its slim pickings nowadays and they are still almost as crazy as she is without the looks. About 95% of that news broadcast is all bullshit from what was talked about on that news broadcast so obviously she's trying to fool somebody that she's found jesus. Ill make 2 quick points. She hasnt been clean for a year and a half as stated. I took her home finally for supposedly the last time way less than a year ago. She aint been clean for no yr and a half. And at least 7 months preg from the newest father which aint me according to somewhat reliable fam and the net. Look, she forced me on illegal, uh shall we say, intoxicants but she's a counsleor and going to open up a house for women she says? Oh, and the true story goes, and a victim yet she got others addicted herself. Holding her body and drugs over my head over this possible long term bs? Her own mother and grandmother encouraged her to strip at 17. Phillips came years later. Look, if its true, I want to know what she's takin currently cause she got me in this current mess. You want to know why I'm so pissed? I took care of that mental b and mom and granny for about as long as she says she's drug free. Trust me i probably had more time counseling this b more than any of you, and and maybe more than any of her fam besides her mom and granny, and within 2 weeks after she scams. She still a scammer but she doesnt need phillips, me or backpage to scam anymore. She uses other safer means. Cant be 1,everybody else be careful out there and dont ever let no bp hoes into your homes no matter what. Trust me i learned the hard way and no matter how long. I took that h to drs appointments, rehab,and the mental hospital and now her own mother let her own poor baby get preg again under her watch while she was on probation and rehab after arreast in feb 2016 , per news brobroadcast, and the new preg and new victim, wasnt even mentioned during the broadcast. This is 3 rd preg with 3 diff dudes and on rehab and probation under mommas watch after i let her go. obviously she cant clear name through courts so shes up to calling up the news to use some kind of sinister advantage to her and her fams next scam, which so far is to admit to her whole new fam or , at the least, her new employer (maybe mcdonalds) that shes a h so its no suprise if they found out later.Trust me I understand where you coning from. I have had my own close personal relationships with a hand full of these hoes. All turn out to be scammers and liars on different levels. When these girls say they need help and don't have anyone else to true to its because they live their life running with scissors.
Oh and for the record Russian Katie is far from Duval's finest. I have met several that have looked better. But those are the ones that I won't review.
Well, can't be, weve had our disagreements before, and I guess our only connection is with russia, but if no one gave a f, no one would make a comment besides you. Look, ill try to make this short and sweet, russia was and still is the finest b that ever was created within duval county lines. Everybody can see the shortage of decent looking women ever since russia left bp and streets almost a year ago. Its slim pickings nowadays and they are still almost as crazy as she is without the looks. About 95% of that news broadcast is all bullshit from what was talked about on that news broadcast so obviously she's trying to fool somebody that she's found jesus. Ill make 2 quick points. She hasnt been clean for a year and a half as stated. I took her home finally for supposedly the last time way less than a year ago. She aint been clean for no yr and a half. And at least 7 months preg from the newest father which aint me according to somewhat reliable fam and the net. Look, she forced me on illegal, uh shall we say, intoxicants but she's a counsleor and going to open up a house for women she says? Oh, and the true story goes, and a victim yet she got others addicted herself. Holding her body and drugs over my head over this possible long term bs? Her own mother and grandmother encouraged her to strip at 17. Phillips came years later. Look, if its true, I want to know what she's takin currently cause she got me in this current mess. You want to know why I'm so pissed? I took care of that mental b and mom and granny for about as long as she says she's drug free. Trust me i probably had more time counseling this b more than any of you, and and maybe more than any of her fam besides her mom and granny, and within 2 weeks after she scams. She still a scammer but she doesnt need phillips, me or backpage to scam anymore. She uses other safer means. Cant be 1,everybody else be careful out there and dont ever let no bp hoes into your homes no matter what. Trust me i learned the hard way and no matter how long. I took that h to drs appointments, rehab,and the mental hospital, when her own flesh and blood wouldn't, and when i finally was able to get the b back to them, her own mother let her own poor baby get preg again under her watch while she was on probation and rehab after arreast in feb 2016 , per news brobroadcast, and the new preg and new victim, wasnt even mentioned during the broadcast. This is 3 rd preg with 3 diff mongers skipping over me and while on rehab and probation under mommas watch after i let her go. obviously she cant clear name through courts so shes up to calling up the news to use some kind of sinister advantage to her and her fams next scam, which so far is to admit to her whole new fam or , at the least, her new employer (maybe mcdonalds) that shes a h so its no suprise if they found out later.Granny took her and picked her up from the strip club back in the old days according to reliable sources when she first started. They won't mention that on the news. The news bull sh is really over the top.
F she said take this or ill leave or other sinister threats. She still left but I guess it bought me an xtra 6 months of time. The only intoxicant i knew prior, was booze and now its xtremly hard to go back to. She introduced me to it and I'm still stuck. I wonder if shell counsel me now like her other new patients.Dude, I have spent more time with so many different hookers I could write a damn book. I have seen them take every drug on the market. But not a one of them could ever get me to take any drug. But I know oh too well about the mongers who will. So many candy mongers who get high on the same drugs as these hookers. I watched one hooker and her new SD blow 10 k a week for two months doing nothing more than sitting in a motel room getting sky high and on each others nerves.
Dude, I have spent more time with so many different hookers I could write a damn book. I have seen them take every drug on the market. But not a one of them could ever get me to take any drug. But I know oh too well about the mongers who will. So many candy mongers who get high on the same drugs as these hookers. I watched one hooker and her new SD blow 10 k a week for two months doing nothing more than sitting in a motel room getting sky high and on each others nerves.Yop that's about what me and the counselor did but not 10 g. 5 g? Sure. Now shes a counselor less than a year later after affecting so many lives. News is bragging about a yr and a half
Trust me I understand where you coning from. I have had my own close personal relationships with a hand full of these hoes. All turn out to be scammers and liars on different levels. When these girls say they need help and don't have anyone else to true to its because they live their life running with scissors.
Oh and for the record Russian Katie is far from Duval's finest. I have met several that have looked better. But those are the ones that I won't review.You mustve saw her on phillips but before and after, just about flawless but the mind a different story as everyone can attest, and it doesnt matter what news channel or how many news channels she gets on, or what legal psych doc meds they put her on to make her feel at ease, her mind will always be gone
JaxBusinessMan
06-07-17, 11:44
Been in Jax for some time now, I've had some good encounters and some that I wouldn't share to my K9. But my problem is when I'm in town and come to the thread you guys don't like to reply or help out. I mean last I checked this is community kitty so why withhold information? Maybe I'm missing something or maybe some one can explain what's the point of having a community where information should be shared if we are going to sit on it and let it go to waste. IMO we all hunting the same thing while trying to stay safe so help each other out.
Been in Jax for some time now, I've had some good encounters and some that I wouldn't share to my K9. But my problem is when I'm in town and come to the thread you guys don't like to reply or help out. I mean last I checked this is community kitty so why withhold information? Maybe I'm missing something or maybe some one can explain what's the point of having a community where information should be shared if we are going to sit on it and let it go to waste. IMO we all hunting the same thing while trying to stay safe so help each other out.1) People might not trust someone with low post asking for info. Also there is a kind of "I had to do it the hard way, and you just want to be spoon fed all the good providers?" ideology on the forums. If you didn't post reviews / tips / anything people won't do the same for you, give and take. Not saying you HAVE to go review someone no one heard about, but at least see someone that's been reviewed and give a update or something.
2) Some guys have "favorites" they don't want to share, they feel as though if they review them they will change for the worse (attitude, cost, candy use, stds, etc) because of the popularity a review gives these chicks. I can understand to a degree, but then those same guys want to see your favorites, LOL.
PlayinAtwork
06-07-17, 15:23
Been in Jax for some time now, I've had some good encounters and some that I wouldn't share to my K9. But my problem is when I'm in town and come to the thread you guys don't like to reply or help out. I mean last I checked this is community kitty so why withhold information? Maybe I'm missing something or maybe some one can explain what's the point of having a community where information should be shared if we are going to sit on it and let it go to waste. IMO we all hunting the same thing while trying to stay safe so help each other out.I looked at your posts and you have contributed absofuckinglutely nothing to this board. Maybe that's what is missing.
JaxBusinessMan
06-07-17, 15:43
Maybe if I could get some help I can contribute but without any Intel it's kinda hard unless you want me lie and make up dreams and such.
I looked at your posts and you have contributed absofuckinglutely nothing to this board. Maybe that's what is missing.
FloridaBiker
06-07-17, 16:00
Been in Jax for some time now, I've had some good encounters and some that I wouldn't share to my K9. But my problem is when I'm in town and come to the thread you guys don't like to reply or help out. I mean last I checked this is community kitty so why withhold information? Maybe I'm missing something or maybe some one can explain what's the point of having a community where information should be shared if we are going to sit on it and let it go to waste. IMO we all hunting the same thing while trying to stay safe so help each other out.Maybe you have noticed that the main topic on this forum is 'How hard it is to find a decent provider'.
I share info when I have it, but it has been slim pickings in JAX.
Also, you are a relative newbie, judging by the number of your posts (13). Many members like to withhold digits until a member has achieved Sr. Status. Uncle avoidance may be behind that.
What a newbie can get here is the same warnings and reports that the rest of us get.
Hang in there, contribute when you can, and we both can hope times will get better.
Stewie Griffin
06-07-17, 17:13
Been in Jax for some time now, I've had some good encounters and some that I wouldn't share to my K9. But my problem is when I'm in town and come to the thread you guys don't like to reply or help out. I mean last I checked this is community kitty so why withhold information? Maybe I'm missing something or maybe some one can explain what's the point of having a community where information should be shared if we are going to sit on it and let it go to waste. IMO we all hunting the same thing while trying to stay safe so help each other out.Probably because you have not posted one review of anyone (that I have seen) (You have 13 total posts since Feb. Of this year and not one post contributing anything which is funny because that is what you are bitching about others not doing), but continually ask for information. You can find a lot of information from reading the boards but if you are expecting people to come out of the wood work to hook you up, you are going to sorely disappointed. And a lot of people are not going to answer questions when you can do a little research and find the answers especially if you all do is ask for information.
MyDarkSide
06-07-17, 17:51
All turn out to be scammers and liars on different levels.I ought to tape this to my wallet. Seems like once a year I'll get somewhat attached. Thinking I'm helpful but it never ends well.
SSideJohnny
06-07-17, 17:59
Maybe if I could get some help I can contribute but without any Intel it's kinda hard unless you want me lie and make up dreams and such.Bro, I have 14 posts. But contributed. Not much, but if you haven't noticed by reading here, Jax is all but dried up, BP girls are crap, and most Parlors are L1 only. Maybe do a little research on a place, or posting, and man up and TOFTT or two. Not trying to be a jerk, but not that difficult to contribute.
J.
Stewie Griffin
06-07-17, 18:20
You mustve saw her on phillips but before and after, just about flawless but the mind a different story as everyone can attest, and it doesnt matter what news channel or how many news channels she gets on, or what legal psych doc meds they put her on to make her feel at ease, her mind will always be goneFunny I was just talking about her at vizo the other day. The person even said they knew who you were. LOL But even they laughed when I told them she was on the news and what she had said.
I ought to tape this to my wallet. Seems like once a year I'll get somewhat attached. Thinking I'm helpful but it never ends well.I hear what you are saying MyDarkside. In my opinion the key to this is keeping a constant rotation which can keep you from getting to attached to any 1 provider. I try to keep 3 or 4 regulars that I see on a steady basis, this rotation is in constant flux as girls go to rehab, jail, move out of town etc. After that I like to have what I call semi-regulars, someone you might see once a month or once every few months, when one of the regulars goes "away" I usually turn a semi-regular into a regular. And lastly I like to have what I call "Travel Girls". These are girls that I see when I travel to other cities but also for traveling girls that pass thru Jax once or twice a yr. Its like being a Baseball manager constantly juggling a lineup, calling up rookies from the minors and signing free agents LOL.
Member #5648
06-07-17, 21:15
Amazing how much drama can be generated when 1 girl like Brittany isn't getting any dances because of a girl like Sami, who's HOT AS HELL in her own way, has the audacity to actually get off her ass and go ask customers if they would like to get a VIP dance. Unless any of you out there is fucking Sami every time you're in VIP with her, Brittany seems to be telling people that Sami is a ***** while Brittany herself has the attitude that sometimes she'll let you play with her vagina and sometimes she might be in the mood for a good fucking (for a TIP) and then back again to just wanting to do nothing in VIP. Envy is really enjoying herself with every customers she gets into VIP as I was 2 booths down from Envy and you could literally hear her BANGING away on her customer as if she's about to CUM just NOT YET keep fucking her because she's about to climax. That ***** could see tickets! Renee, mean while is carrying around a bottle of lotion in her purse so that she can give a HJ to every customer that gives her a TIP, and I guess that each customer is different as to the TIP? Allie is fucking customers just to keep her VIP's up there because she's a lousy fuck anyway! Her ANAL is tighter than her pussy, by the way!
Maybe if I could get some help I can contribute but without any Intel it's kinda hard unless you want me lie and make up dreams and such.I know you've been talked to from other members but there's somethin that's been missed & no one has mentioned. Here's a quote from your original post: "Been in Jax for some time now, I've had some good encounters".
See where I'm going at w / this?
-PB.
FearTheSpear
06-09-17, 19:31
You need to give her a break. If you could have gotten back to Jacksonville for your birthday she would have been here she's one of the best providers on Backpage and for you to kick the s*** out of her cuz she couldn't get back to your birthday you're a piece of s***What she do for ya, oh great one. Mike4636?? Give ya half off to send me a PM starting some chit?? LOL. So effing over that underage sounding immature azz trick hoe til it aint funny!! Or maybe you're the captain save-a-hoe on here. Savin those hoes one day at a time. Tell paris to stay her azz in gainesville, cause that's enemy territory. Noles 4 life!!
So, I know that plenty of guys get ripped off in various ways (fortunately only happened to me once), but unfortunately it happened to a reputable provider yesterday for more than $$. I know that providers do read these forums, and I know I can't post all the info I have. I'll just say that the monger in question has a number that starts with area code 904 and ends in 7025.
Pisses me off. Just like the bad providers pollute the hobby, shitty mongers make things worse for those of us just trying to have some good fun.
Any provider wanting details, PM me.
ZoomLens2013
07-01-17, 16:45
I've talked to more than a few SB's who have had similar experiences. It's a shame, really.
So, I know that plenty of guys get ripped off in various ways (fortunately only happened to me once), but unfortunately it happened to a reputable provider yesterday for more than $$. I know that providers do read these forums, and I know I can't post all the info I have. I'll just say that the monger in question has a number that starts with area code 904 and ends in 7025.
Pisses me off. Just like the bad providers pollute the hobby, shitty mongers make things worse for those of us just trying to have some good fun.
Any provider wanting details, PM me.
I've talked to more than a few SB's who have had similar experiences. It's a shame, really.This guy paid off in obviously fake money and had the balls to come back for another visit. 904 xxx 6220.
I know that guys * about pricing and all, but fucking monopoly money?
Smh.
UWishUWereMe
07-11-17, 11:29
This guy paid off in obviously fake money and had the balls to come back for another visit. 904 xxx 6220.
I know that guys * about pricing and all, but fucking monopoly money?
Smh.So my friend just got monopoly money from a great fellow 904 xxx 1641. Sad. Very sad!
So, I know that plenty of guys get ripped off in various ways (fortunately only happened to me once), but unfortunately it happened to a reputable provider yesterday for more than $$. I know that providers do read these forums, and I know I can't post all the info I have. I'll just say that the monger in question has a number that starts with area code 904 and ends in 7025.
Pisses me off. Just like the bad providers pollute the hobby, shitty mongers make things worse for those of us just trying to have some good fun.
Any provider wanting details, PM me.Had a provider check $100 I gave her, said she got a fake one the week before.
Sapphire80
07-13-17, 15:01
Maybe you have noticed that the main topic on this forum is 'How hard it is to find a decent provider'.
I share info when I have it, but it has been slim pickings in JAX.
Also, you are a relative newbie, judging by the number of your posts (13). Many members like to withhold digits until a member has achieved Sr. Status. Uncle avoidance may be behind that.
What a newbie can get here is the same warnings and reports that the rest of us get.
Hang in there, contribute when you can, and we both can hope times will get better.Utr usually the best. Not your average BP girl strung out IN a nasty motels. Own car and like a breath of fresh air.
Utr usually the best. Not your average BP girl strung out IN a nasty motels. Own car and like a breath of fresh air.We could all use a utr especially if she's a great attitude.
Good hunting.
Gene.
Well fellas. Since I didn't get a response from you guys. TOFFT as usual on my part. Once again don't know because I lay low and don't post much or do my homework or just get lucky. I'm going to go with all of the above and with a pinch of extra luck on my part, LOL. I can say pictures are 100% real. She is damn sexy, at least to me anyways. So if you are on the fence about her, you have the green light from me. Although donations were high for me, 100 qv. I didn't care and gladly donated my money well worth it. She is new and no signs of use that I could tell. Super clean super fresh nice white teeth clean hands clean feet, sexy too might I add. I don't tell you how to spend your $ so don't tell me. You get it how you want end of story. As usual YMMV. Be warned she does require a screen procedure some of you may not agree with by asking for a pic of your member so take that into consideration. If you don't feel comfortable sending then you guys miss out plain and simple. I have a feeling I have released the hounds once again. Oh well. You guys better treat her right and keep her happy. Let's try to help each other and keep the good ones like her around! I'm tired of you "Senior Members" trying to be in your own swim lane with information on providers! I could've easily kept this one to myself, but I asked and per her request to leave a review for you guys so she can get more clientele. So for you guys that get to dream of her, YOU'RE WELCOME! Sorry about that little rant. Enjoy and be safe.Well this review doesn't reek of BS at all. Doesn't sound like the provider wrote it one bit. Good try though.
WhiteNite2000
07-14-17, 10:28
Well this review doesn't reek of BS at all. Doesn't sound like the provider wrote it one bit. Good try though....until you mentioned it! Yep, self review!
Luke Cage668
07-14-17, 11:24
...until you mentioned it! Yep, self review!The qv part was hilarious, get an "A" for effort.
Well this review doesn't reek of BS at all. Doesn't sound like the provider wrote it one bit. Good try though.I should mention also that another senior member has had some text conversations with this providers husband. Yes you won't be speaking to hear. The social media links him but he is single so I'm guessing he's pimping this chick out or something. They are flighty at best and only "occasionally" do this. If you text he will own up to being her guy and not her. Anyways for what that info is worth.
I should mention also that another senior member has had some text conversations with this providers husband. Yes you won't be speaking to hear. The social media links him but he is single so I'm guessing he's pimping this chick out or something. They are flighty at best and only "occasionally" do this. If you text he will own up to being her guy and not her. Anyways for what that info is worth.There is a clear link to his FB where he is a realtor. How stupid is this guy! Guess you can't sell a house without the Ho! LOL.
Well this review doesn't reek of BS at all. Doesn't sound like the provider wrote it one bit. Good try though.I am not as astute as many of you. Why do you believe this is a self review? WTB904 has multiple post that go back some time and has reviewed a number of ladies. What tipped you off? Just courious.
JLDUB.
WeTheBest904
07-14-17, 15:29
WN and MBX. You guys are exactly right! Nail on the head how could possibly fool you guys LOL. Your loss my gain. Period. Don't need to explain myself you guys and go see for yourself but I guess since you are the SM here, you know better my mistake. Sorry. Like I said if you have the cojones to go see her then you won't be disappointed. I've posted nothing but reviews on providers and this is my first non. All you SM post some BS all the time just to get that "status". You guys are too funny. But what do I know, this is just a self review! Lmao.
WeTheBest904
07-14-17, 15:49
Quebec and LukeCage really! And you 2 "senior member" pm me about other providers!? Lmao. I guess this is a self review too. You guys make senior members status seem like a joke. Let's not forget why we're on this forum / board. To help one another find pussy. Just cause I post a review on a provider automatically a self review! WTF is that. Look I got nothing to gain from that. If you're too pussy to go and see for yourself then I can't help you! Like I said my gain and your loss if you don't believe me on this one. I'll gladly be a regular of hers so long as she's still providing. At least I TOFTT! I don't know what the deal is with the guy but when I saw her I didn't see him around until after I left I saw a guy standing outside a door adjacent to the room somewhat smoking a cig. Could it have been him? Possibly, but there was no interruptions in my dream from him is all I'm saying.
WeTheBest904
07-14-17, 15:56
So I guess she was a self review too! Lmao you guys are too funny. This is why I don't post a lot. I guess I'll keep my "self reviews" to myself. Oh well. Guess I'll start posting non review BS stuff as well so I can be a senior member just like you guys.
WeTheBest904
07-14-17, 16:13
Fine with me if you guys don't dream of her! LOL fawk it take it or leave it. Like I said before your loss is my gain. Lmao oops self review again. All I know is I'm on the inside looking out now. Sucks for you guys that don't believe me but what do I know this is just a self review right. I already knew I was going to catch some flack when I reviewed her but hey you senior members can figure it out on your own. I'll be gladly hitting that while you guys are on the fence waiting to make the jump LOL. I already did for you guys and now it's a self review. Crazy how that works.
Fine with me if you guys don't dream of her! LOL fawk it take it or leave it. Like I said before your loss is my gain. Lmao oops self review again. All I know is I'm on the inside looking out now. Sucks for you guys that don't believe me but what do I know this is just a self review right. I already knew I was going to catch some flack when I reviewed her but hey you senior members can figure it out on your own. I'll be gladly hitting that while you guys are on the fence waiting to make the jump LOL. I already did for you guys and now it's a self review. Crazy how that works.Awfully defensive are we? I just have some slightly first hand info on the subject. I was turned away her first night because she was done unless I could get here in 5 minutes. My guess is the dude is a monger himself and met her and talked her into doing it for whatever reason. Your probably that guy but I could be wrong. Senior status isn't that important here but such a "glowing" review and how it was worded is odd is all. It raises flags to those of us who have been on here a while. I myself in my early days am guilty of allowing a girl to "help" write a review of herself whilst we sat drinking on my couch. It doesn't go over well here. It's easily noticed. And at a 100 a qv she better be porn star quality. Maybe I'm way off base and maybe not.
WeTheBest904
07-14-17, 19:27
Awfully defensive are we? I just have some slightly first hand info on the subject. I was turned away her first night because she was done unless I could get here in 5 minutes. My guess is the dude is a monger himself and met her and talked her into doing it for whatever reason. Your probably that guy but I could be wrong. Senior status isn't that important here but such a "glowing" review and how it was worded is odd is all. It raises flags to those of us who have been on here a while. I myself in my early days am guilty of allowing a girl to "help" write a review of herself whilst we sat drinking on my couch. It doesn't go over well here. It's easily noticed. And at a 100 a qv she better be porn star quality. Maybe I'm way off base and maybe not.OK. #1 Just because I respond to a post its "defensive". #2 You are wrong and I'm not that guy, sorry you got turned around for whatever reason maybe you caught her at a bad time obviously since she wanted you to be there in 5! Also I don't see how it was a "glowing" review, to each his own. I merely said she was 100% real and sexy as fawk. Didn't know posting real pics was a red flag. Listen, if you think I wasn't nervous as fuck going to see her then you're wrong! Like you guys always say to new members, TOFTT! LOL and that's exactly what I did. As far as 100 QV, I'll gladly donate my $ not yours to someone who is legit and clean any day! Compared to all this other trash on BP, sure it's easy to go ahead and tell yourself she's not real, I sure as hell did. And this "porn star" quality you speak of, you're looking in the wrong place for that man. Your tastes and my tastes are totally different, plain and simple. All I can say is if you like her look then enjoy, if not then I'm sorry. Perfect example I went to go see Sabina over at mandarin who you guys wrote this "glowing" review on. And she was just ok to me! Not everyone here is going to like what you like. Isn't that why we always say YMMV in our posts / reviews? Also I've never been with a pornstar so I don't know what quality you're looking for! You have to go see for yourself. I would try again to see her if you've already passed her "screening" process by sending a pic of your junk, LOL. I don't know what else to say. I know others here trust my reviews and you don't have to and that's fine. I only did a QV just to confirm what's there obviously and she is all there. You guys can take it for what it's worth. I'm good.
FloridaBiker
07-14-17, 20:31
Look at this guys other posts.
He sure does have a stable of numerous perfect providers. All in 21 posts.
Huh.
Quebec and LukeCage really! And you 2 "senior member" pm me about other providers!? Lmao. I guess this is a self review too. You guys make senior members status seem like a joke. Let's not forget why we're on this forum / board. To help one another find pussy. Just cause I post a review on a provider automatically a self review! WTF is that. Look I got nothing to gain from that. If you're too pussy to go and see for yourself then I can't help you! Like I said my gain and your loss if you don't believe me on this one. I'll gladly be a regular of hers so long as she's still providing. At least I TOFTT! I don't know what the deal is with the guy but when I saw her I didn't see him around until after I left I saw a guy standing outside a door adjacent to the room somewhat smoking a cig. Could it have been him? Possibly, but there was no interruptions in my dream from him is all I'm saying.
WeTheBest904
07-14-17, 20:53
Look at this guys other posts.
He sure does have a stable of numerous perfect providers. All in 21 posts.
Huh.Thanks Florida! Make you wonder why I'm scratching my head. Oh well. Do yourself a favor and enjoy Roxi my man.
MyDarkSide
07-14-17, 21:16
I am not as astute as many of you. Why do you believe this is a self review? WTB904 has multiple post that go back some time and has reviewed a number of ladies. What tipped you off? Just courious.
JLDUB.I agree. Or he has an entire stable of girls LOL. His reviews are all quite positive but then I too tend to focus on the good. And he's been around for months.
WeTheBest904
07-14-17, 21:21
Honestly forgot about the woodshed forum as I never would've thought I'd be in here "defending" myself! As for you SM who called me out. In the words of Drake "Thank Me Later"! It's you guys that give SM status a bad rap, it's funny because I've learned from you SM's on how to approach certain things to get to the end goal before I even ask for information or how do you all say "a handout". I guess all that knowledge has gone to your head. But I'll be one of those who stay grounded FYI.
Quebec and LukeCage really! And you 2 "senior member" pm me about other providers!? Lmao. I guess this is a self review too. You guys make senior members status seem like a joke. Let's not forget why we're on this forum / board. To help one another find pussy. Just cause I post a review on a provider automatically a self review! WTF is that. Look I got nothing to gain from that. If you're too pussy to go and see for yourself then I can't help you! Like I said my gain and your loss if you don't believe me on this one. I'll gladly be a regular of hers so long as she's still providing. At least I TOFTT! I don't know what the deal is with the guy but when I saw her I didn't see him around until after I left I saw a guy standing outside a door adjacent to the room somewhat smoking a cig. Could it have been him? Possibly, but there was no interruptions in my dream from him is all I'm saying.Where did I say that this was a self review? I said her hubby must be stupid, and then you get all crazy!
Honestly forgot about the woodshed forum as I never would've thought I'd be in here "defending" myself! As for you SM who called me out. In the words of Drake "Thank Me Later"! It's you guys that give SM status a bad rap, it's funny because I've learned from you SM's on how to approach certain things to get to the end goal before I even ask for information or how do you all say "a handout". I guess all that knowledge has gone to your head. But I'll be one of those who stay grounded FYI.Oldie but goodie, enjoy!
Oldie but goodie, enjoy!No point in arguing, brings out trolls and I see enough of those navigating BP.
A very wise man recently reminded me of something I had forgotten.
"Don't feed the trolls" !
WhiteNite2000
07-16-17, 10:02
Honestly forgot about the woodshed forum as I never would've thought I'd be in here "defending" myself! As for you SM who called me out. In the words of Drake "Thank Me Later"! It's you guys that give SM status a bad rap, it's funny because I've learned from you SM's on how to approach certain things to get to the end goal before I even ask for information or how do you all say "a handout". I guess all that knowledge has gone to your head. But I'll be one of those who stay grounded FYI.Somehow when I read your review it sounded like a provider trying to drum up biz or toot her own horn. It wasn't until someone asked us why would we say your reviews weren't solid since you have several good posts that I realized that I should have did that first. One reason I didn't is because this week has been pretty rough and for some reason it seemed like you only had one review (pressing week!) Anyway I went back to look at some of your reviews and it does show you've contributed well. I guess what kind of got me was when you started talking about how you're going to pay 120 and you didn't care what anyone thought. This is the part that made me think it was a provider trying to get us to pay her rates. At any rate, again, my apologies to ya and thanks for contributing.
Luke Cage668
07-16-17, 11:09
Somehow when I read your review it sounded like a provider trying to drum up biz or toot her own horn. It wasn't until someone asked us why would we say your reviews weren't solid since you have several good posts that I realized that I should have did that first. One reason I didn't is because this week has been pretty rough and for some reason it seemed like you only had one review (pressing week!) Anyway I went back to look at some of your reviews and it does show you've contributed well. I guess what kind of got me was when you started talking about how you're going to pay 120 and you didn't care what anyone thought. This is the part that made me think it was a provider trying to get us to pay her rates. At any rate, again, my apologies to ya and thanks for contributing.My bad, much apologies. The qv thing just threw me but can't question what another man does with his ends.
WeTheBest904
07-16-17, 21:17
Well all I got to say is you guys better not be clogging up her phone and keeping me from seeing her again! LOL, jk. But seriously. Honestly got me feeling some type of way about posting reviews on certain providers from now on, LOL. I guess I'll have to start my own UTR list for myself. Sheesh. And the qv donation dibacle, one would understand that it's my $ and my choice. But what sealed it for me was like I said. She was exactly 100% the girl in the pics and she was clean woman. At least when I saw her, so that's why we say YMMV right? Your dream might differ from mine. Anyways enjoy and be safe. We good. I already plan to see her this week when I get paid! LOL.
Well all I got to say is you guys better not be clogging up her phone and keeping me from seeing her again! LOL, jk. But seriously. Honestly got me feeling some type of way about posting reviews on certain providers from now on, LOL. I guess I'll have to start my own UTR list for myself. Sheesh. And the qv donation dibacle, one would understand that it's my $ and my choice. But what sealed it for me was like I said. She was exactly 100% the girl in the pics and she was clean woman. At least when I saw her, so that's why we say YMMV right? Your dream might differ from mine. Anyways enjoy and be safe. We good. I already plan to see her this week when I get paid! LOL.This reply is yet another commercial for Roxy.
WhiteNite2000
07-18-17, 00:11
Well all I got to say is you guys better not be clogging up her phone and keeping me from seeing her again! LOL, jk. But seriously. Honestly got me feeling some type of way about posting reviews on certain providers from now on, LOL. I guess I'll have to start my own UTR list for myself. Sheesh. And the qv donation dibacle, one would understand that it's my $ and my choice. But what sealed it for me was like I said. She was exactly 100% the girl in the pics and she was clean woman. At least when I saw her, so that's why we say YMMV right? Your dream might differ from mine. Anyways enjoy and be safe. We good. I already plan to see her this week when I get paid! LOL.Whatever a man wants to spend on snatch is totally up to him. As long as I'm not the one footing the bill, it's nothing to me. If I do donate that amount, believe it, she has to be well worth it. Unfortunately or fortunately, depending on how you look at it, most of the girls I've encountered are barely worth 60. I know some can command more but personally because I cannot justify spending too much on snatch, I prefer to just limit myself.
Just for laughs.That must be ugly ass Darla? LOL.
WhiteNite2000
07-22-17, 11:00
You know, I generally could care less what a man pays for coochie because it's his money not mine. So when you read my disbelief or comment about what someone paid a provider, just know I'm not telling you how to spend your money. However the exorbitant rates I read about are really adversely impacting the market. I cannot tell you how many times I'm being told by no good providers that they want 100-150 for a qv. I mean, the frequency of this happening is ever increasing. This is where the problem actually lies. As you go along paying these girls such outlandish fees, you are messing up the market! I can see if most of the reviews or comments about said providers were favorable but most of the reviews I read on here are to the contrary. How many times do you read about nightmares and such. You read "I won't repeat", "I'd only repeat in a pinch" and the list goes on. This happens more often than not. I can understand paying for quality but honestly guys, can you really say you are paying for better quality these days? It is really getting ridiculous. These hookers might not be pricing themselves out of the market but they're damn sure pricing me out of the hobby! The thing is I make a pretty decent living but I refuse to pay for phucked up services!
Many of them don't want to offer QVs these days like they use to- I use QVs to determine if I'd like to spend more time later; to see if chemistry is right. I guess their thinking is why do a QV when I can get paid for a 30 minute visit but only work for 15 minutes or less! How many times have I read about guys paying for an hour or even 30 minutes and the ho wants you done in 5 minutes! You see, these girls look at the average time it takes most clients to finish. There are some pretty fast finishers out there! LOL But if your behind isn't done in 5 minutes, like other minute men, the ho says the gig is up! They feel like they can get away with such rubbish and guess what? They do! Anyway, getting off the soapbox. Again just remember, while it is your money to spend however way you please, know that you're phucking up the market! One last example though, I've read in the massage section how some guys go into these parlors and pay the entry fee of 80-100 then give the girl about 150-200! Then I read how different ones complain about such practices because, hey, again, you're phucking up the market. I'll leave these thoughts with you!
You know, I generally could care less what a man pays for coochie because it's his money not mine. So when you read my disbelief or comment about what someone paid a provider, just know I'm not telling you how to spend your money. However the exorbitant rates I read about are really adversely impacting the market. I cannot tell you how many times I'm being told by no good providers that they want 100-150 for a qv. I mean, the frequency of this happening is ever increasing. This is where the problem actually lies. As you go along paying these girls such outlandish fees, you are messing up the market! I can see if most of the reviews or comments about said providers were favorable but most of the reviews I read on here are to the contrary. How many times do you read about nightmares and such. You read "I won't repeat", "I'd only repeat in a pinch" and the list goes on. This happens more often than not. I can understand paying for quality but honestly guys, can you really say you are paying for better quality these days? It is really getting ridiculous.
Many of them don't want to offer QVs these days like they use to. I guess their thinking is why do a QV when I can get paid for a 30 minute visit but only work for 15 minutes or less! How many times have I read about guys paying for an hour or even 30 minutes and the ho wants you done in 5 minutes! You see, these girls look at the average time it takes most clients to finish. There are some pretty fast finishers out there! LOL But if your behind isn't done in 5 minutes, like other minute men, the ho says the gig is up! They feel like they can get away with such rubbish and guess what? They do! Anyway, getting off the soapbox. Again just remember, while it is your money to spend however way you please, know that you're phucking up the market! One last example though, I've read in the massage section how some guys go into these parlors and pay the entry fee of 80-100 then give the girl about 150-200! Then I read how different ones complain about such practices because, hey, again, you're phucking up the market. I'll leave these thoughts with you!Play more and pay less is my motto. I contacted a newbie on BP a few days ago. She told me she was only doing car visits right now. She asked for 80. I nicely said that's more than I normally pay and she told me stop being cheap. I told her I'm sure she will have other callers who say the same. She said she had plenty that will pay what she ask. She should have no problem having a room than. I'm not going to pay that. She was decent looking spinner but not all that. These hookers rates should match their looks. Even the 5 and below scaled providers want 2 bens an hour.
You know, I generally could care less what a man pays for coochie because it's his money not mine. So when you read my disbelief or comment about what someone paid a provider, just know I'm not telling you how to spend your money. However the exorbitant rates I read about are really adversely impacting the market. I cannot tell you how many times I'm being told by no good providers that they want 100-150 for a qv. I mean, the frequency of this happening is ever increasing. This is where the problem actually lies. As you go along paying these girls such outlandish fees, you are messing up the market! I can see if most of the reviews or comments about said providers were favorable but most of the reviews I read on here are to the contrary. How many times do you read about nightmares and such. You read "I won't repeat", "I'd only repeat in a pinch" and the list goes on. This happens more often than not. I can understand paying for quality but honestly guys, can you really say you are paying for better quality these days? It is really getting ridiculous. These hookers might not be pricing themselves out of the market but they're damn sure pricing me out of the hobby! The thing is I make a pretty decent living but I refuse to pay for phucked up services!Yeah, I hate to admit this, but I'm slowly being priced out of the market. At best, I get perhaps a 2-4% increase in pay per year. Over the course of the last couple of years provider rates have gone up about 20-25%. And the increase has not been reflected in services rendered. Take Chloe in Palatka. Someone recently stated that she quoted $200 for a HH and $250 for an hour. Those are the rates that LeLe Sunflower and Rachelina charge. But with both of them, you're going to visit them in a 5 start hotel (Hyatt Regency Downtown for LeLe and the Jacksonville Marriott in Southpoint for Rachelina). On top of that, you will have access to everything but Greek and you'll be allowed MSOG, and the ability to stick around for the full HH or HR. With Chloe, I'm sure that everything is covered, that there's no CIM or COF, no Greek, and no MSOG. Plus all services will be rendered in a rundown hovel without AC or running water (always possible) that is located in a bad part of town. On top of that, with EVERY single provider that I've ever seen, I have requested that they be freshly showered. Almost all of them reply, "of course, baby". But I would say that only perhaps 40% are freshly showered when I arrive.
I still always haggle, no matter what they initially quote, which these days starts at $140. Most will make a counteroffer of $120 when I first tell them "No thanks". But when I still balk at the $120, they typically don't even reply. And again, they all want top dollar for very little in the way of services.
Just my two cents.
Shaggy.
Luke Cage668
07-22-17, 14:05
You know, I generally could care less what a man pays for coochie because it's his money not mine. So when you read my disbelief or comment about what someone paid a provider, just know I'm not telling you how to spend your money. However the exorbitant rates I read about are really adversely impacting the market. I cannot tell you how many times I'm being told by no good providers that they want 100-150 for a qv. I mean, the frequency of this happening is ever increasing. This is where the problem actually lies. As you go along paying these girls such outlandish fees, you are messing up the market! I can see if most of the reviews or comments about said providers were favorable but most of the reviews I read on here are to the contrary. How many times do you read about nightmares and such. You read "I won't repeat", "I'd only repeat in a pinch" and the list goes on. This happens more often than not. I can understand paying for quality but honestly guys, can you really say you are paying for better quality these days? It is really getting ridiculous. These hookers might not be pricing themselves out of the market but they're damn sure pricing me out of the hobby! The thing is I make a pretty decent living but I refuse to pay for phucked up services!
Many of them don't want to offer QVs these days like they use to- I use QVs to determine if I'd like to spend more time later; to see if chemistry is right. I guess their thinking is why do a QV when I can get paid for a 30 minute visit but only work for 15 minutes or less! How many times have I read about guys paying for an hour or even 30 minutes and the ho wants you done in 5 minutes! You see, these girls look at the average time it takes most clients to finish. There are some pretty fast finishers out there! LOL But if your behind isn't done in 5 minutes, like other minute men, the ho says the gig is up! They feel like they can get away with such rubbish and guess what? They do! Anyway, getting off the soapbox. Again just remember, while it is your money to spend however way you please, know that you're phucking up the market! One last example though, I've read in the massage section how some guys go into these parlors and pay the entry fee of 80-100 then give the girl about 150-200! Then I read how different ones complain about such practices because, hey, again, you're phucking up the market. I'll leave these thoughts with you!Amen brother, again if you live an affluent lifestyle that allows you to drop $ - $. 5 for a qv then more power to ya, I'm not and will continue to set limits to what I'll dream with, and if these exorbitant prices continue to rise because hobbyists not dictating the market I'll just keep it to swan hunting or go back to the olé fashioned way of just talking them out of their pants LOL.
DWaltonXXX
07-22-17, 14:15
Blowing that kind of money on BP is misusing your assets. You can get way better for those rates. It's like paying $50,000 for a Hyundai Crapsmear when you could be driving a Lexus.
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