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A day later realized I went way overboard there. Definitely don't want to go back to 08. Just letting of some steam. Social media and the feminist movement just changed the game and mindset of these girls so fast. Entitled attitudes has become the norm. Everybody aspires to be the next build-a-thot Beyonce or Kardashian. Scared to have a daughter in this era. Speaking of feminism, any of you guys follow the red pill/mgtow? Can't tell if it's a legit men's movement or just a lot of scorned men in an echo chamber.Red pill is a bunch of incels and alt right nazis.
I am a feminist myself. I believe that woman are equal in value to men, which allows me to not place pussy on a pedestal.
The Parrot
12-22-17, 00:09
Red pill is a bunch of incels and alt right nazis.
I am a feminist myself. I believe that woman are equal in value to men, which allows me to not place pussy on a pedestal.Beware of feminism bro, it is not a pure idealogical concept. They don't want equality, women just want MORE.
Also, don't forget the RADICAl social justice warriors feminists. The ones who complain about men spreading their legs and catcalling women. The ones who make the workplace hell for the common man.
I will never support feminism, it is a disingenuous philosophy / movement.
Egalitarianism is more acceptable, not feminism.
Everyone likes to talk about Trump impeachment, but no one discusses Mike Pence.
If Pence was POTUS, what would be done differently?
Would he do a better job than Trump?If Pence were POTUS, we would all be wearing chastity belts that's for sure. I'll take Trump over Pence anyday of the week even though I do not think much of either of them.
MrHobbyist
12-22-17, 05:45
If Pence were POTUS, we would all be wearing chastity belts that's for sure. I'll take Trump over Pence anyday of the week even though I do not think much of either of them.I realize this is a rants and raves board and I don't think there are forbidden topics, but we are on usaSEXguide. Do we really need to talk about politics here? Good lord I'm tired of hearing / reading / seeing this crap. Let's get back to talking about Johnny or p*ssy or both. It's a lot more interesting. There are much fewer sex boards than there are political boards, like 1000:1 I would guess.
I realize this is a rants and raves board and I don't think there are forbidden topics,.......You said it, I have nothing else to add!
I realize this is a rants and raves board and I don't think there are forbidden topics, but we are on usaSEXguide. Do we really need to talk about politics here? Good lord I'm tired of hearing / reading / seeing this crap. Let's get back to talking about Johnny or p*ssy or both. It's a lot more interesting. There are much fewer sex boards than there are political boards, like 1000:1 I would guess.Imagine walking into an AMP and being greeted by an older provider who isn't much of a looker but she takes your hand, gives you "that look", and leads you down the hall into the room. The massage is quite lame, but she teases you in all the right places, raising your hopes and everything else. Right when you're expecting to hear the magic words telling you to "turn over", instead she says, "time's up" and walks out.
Now imagine a politician telling you how, if elected, he'll surround himself with "all the best people", replace the healthcare system with something "sooo much better", deport all the illegal immigrants, stop companies from moving to Mexico, etc. , and everytime he says, "Make America Great Again" you become aroused. As June, 2018 approaches you realize that, whether it's collusion with the Russians, or Democrats sweeping the midterms, you're about to hear, "times up", and be left lying on the table with an unsatisfied erection.
See, elections and erections aren't mutually exclusive. In fact, if we start talking about money in politics, we'll find amazing parallels between politicians and providers in terms of what people will do for money. So, whether it's who Johnny screwed, or how politicians are screwing Johnny. In the final analysis, it's all about fucking and getting fucked. So I say, "Rant and rave, baby, rant and rave!
Try to get the more important focus next time. You are way off the mark.
I know guys like you don't like dealing with facts when you have your prejudices but the truth is the state department should be sending people to Mexico with Uhauls and bags of cash to encourage immigration.
https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2017-01-03/make-america-mate-again
But again, facts and you don't get along very well.
A2
PS, maybe you can explain this one to me. How can you make The Greatest Country in the World "great again?"Hey A2, how about you go to Mexico and stay there. My only "prejudices" are largely the same as those of most Americans, that we hate illegal immigrants who suck the system dry. I propose sending them all to your house so you can foot the bill for all of their kids, their educations, medical bills, etc. If you can't handle that, you can March them to the border, step over it and never come back.
Do you mean like this, the billions and billions of dollars that undocumented workers pay in income tax and social security that they will never be able to collect on?
https://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2016/09/undocumented-immigrants-and-taxes/499604/
You need to get your news from more than one source, the ENTIRE amount paid to undocumented workers doesn't even come close to the money that Walmart alone gets from the government and they just got a massive tax cut so their balance of payment will be even worse for the tax payer.
I know, those damn facts again.
A2
PS, these are my opinions, not the opinions of the forum. I have these same fights with the boss.
Hey A2, how about you go to Mexico and stay there. My only "prejudices" are largely the same as those of most Americans, that we hate illegal immigrants who suck the system dry. I propose sending them all to your house so you can foot the bill for all of their kids, their educations, medical bills, etc. If you can't handle that, you can March them to the border, step over it and never come back.
Do you mean like this, the billions and billions of dollars that undocumented workers pay in income tax and social security that they will never be able to collect on?
https://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2016/09/undocumented-immigrants-and-taxes/499604/ ...
A2
It isn't just Social Security. These folks also pay millions for Workers Comp that they can never file a claim for. As far as paying for schools, many people conveniently ignore the fact that much of that is funded by property taxes. These immigrants don't live in trees and bushes. Every month they give money to their landlord who then forwards some of it to the taxing authority. And finally, anytime you're paid less than someone else for doing the same work because you're undocumented, you're being taxed. Not by the government in that case. But your paycheck is smaller nonetheless.
If someone actually has a legitimate rationale for deporting millions of people, they wouldn't need to ignore facts. The strength of their rationale would win the debate. If they have a weak argument, on the other hand, ignoring facts is their only alternative.
Hey A2, how about you go to Mexico and stay there. My only "prejudices" are largely the same as those of most Americans, that we hate illegal immigrants who suck the system dry. I propose sending them all to your house so you can foot the bill for all of their kids, their educations, medical bills, etc. If you can't handle that, you can March them to the border, step over it and never come back.
Do you mean like this, the billions and billions of dollars that undocumented workers pay in income tax and social security that they will never be able to collect on?
https://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2016/09/undocumented-immigrants-and-taxes/499604/
You need to get your news from more than one source, the ENTIRE amount paid to undocumented workers doesn't even come close to the money that Walmart alone gets from the government and they just got a massive tax cut so their balance of payment will be even worse for the tax payer.
I know, those damn facts again.
A2
PS, these are my opinions, not the opinions of the forum. I have these same fights with the boss.A2,
This is not about how much big corporations get from the government, a separate, fair topic, it's about illegals mooching off of the rest of us law-abiding (mostly) citizens. So what if those illegals pay into programs and never receive a dime? THEY AIN'T SUPPOSED TO BE HERE IN THE FIRST PLACE!
We need to build that wall, fine the shit out of anyone who employs such people, arrest the illegals, put them into interment camps and put them to work until they've paid all debts, March their asses to the border (picking up trash on the way of course), boot them in the asses and lock the fuckin' gate. Those who have been booted out never get the opportunity to return. For all future immigrants, force them to follow proper immigration procedures like our ancestors did.
What's the pussy angle for this? Fuck the shit out of all those illegal women before the March to the border. All that work rounding them up builds up blue balls.
You're close, the wall is a joke, obviously you have never been to Texas. The wall is nothing more than another boondoggle to enrich the top .01 % at our expense and racists like you think it's a good idea because your idea of a solution is showing those brown motherfuckers who's boss, it has nothing to do with solving the problem.
What we need is a viable guest worker program. Until Hannity and his ilk started thumping their chest over this problem (which really isn't a problem, we need the labor as Georgia found out when they got too good at cutting down on it) the idea of a guest worker program was a good idea of the right. They don't need to pay anything back because the unclaimed income tax they are already paying pays for the benefits that the very small percentage use.
FYI, other countries don't give a shit. If you were in Argentina with no health insurance (legally or otherwise) and you were in an accident all medical facilities are required by law to treat you at no cost. They do this because they think that medical care is a basic human right in an enlightened society.
Incidentally this problem could be solved over night if they fined any companies employing undocumented workers 100,000 dollars per worker. Have you ever wondered why they don't? They want you to be angry about this issue so they can tell you they will solve it and you will vote for them but they don't actually want to solve this problem because the real supporters of those same people that are telling you how they are going to solve this problem with a wall need those undocumented workers because they can pay them less and work them like dogs.
A2
Beware of feminism bro, it is not a pure idealogical concept. They don't want equality, women just want MORE.
Also, don't forget the RADICAl social justice warriors feminists. The ones who complain about men spreading their legs and catcalling women. The ones who make the workplace hell for the common man.
I will never support feminism, it is a disingenuous philosophy / movement.
Egalitarianism is more acceptable, not feminism.I could give shit about feminism as a radical social movement. My mother taught me that respecting women was also about not coddling them like they are children.
Bunnery Sgt
12-22-17, 19:12
Imagine walking into an AMP and being greeted by an older provider who isn't much of a looker but she takes your hand, gives you "that look", and leads you down the hall into the room. The massage is quite lame, but she teases you in all the right places, raising your hopes and everything else. Right when you're expecting to hear the magic words telling you to "turn over", instead she says, "time's up" and walks out.
Now imagine a politician telling you how, if elected, he'll surround himself with "all the best people", replace the healthcare system with something "sooo much better", deport all the illegal immigrants, stop companies from moving to Mexico, etc. , and everytime he says, "Make America Great Again" you become aroused. As June, 2018 approaches you realize that, whether it's collusion with the Russians, or Democrats sweeping the midterms, you're about to hear, "times up", and be left lying on the table with an unsatisfied erection.
See, elections and erections aren't mutually exclusive. In fact, if we start talking about money in politics, we'll find amazing parallels between politicians and providers in terms of what people will do for money. So, whether it's who Johnny screwed, or how politicians are screwing Johnny. In the final analysis, it's all about fucking and getting fucked. So I say, "Rant and rave, baby, rant and rave!I approve of this message.
Imagine walking into an AMP and being greeted by an older provider who isn't much of a looker but she takes your hand, gives you "that look", and leads you down the hall into the room. The massage is quite lame, but she teases you in all the right places, raising your hopes and everything else. Right when you're expecting to hear the magic words telling you to "turn over", instead she says, "time's up" and walks out.
Now imagine a politician telling you how, if elected, he'll surround himself with "all the best people", replace the healthcare system with something "sooo much better", deport all the illegal immigrants, stop companies from moving to Mexico, etc. , and everytime he says, "Make America Great Again" you become aroused. As June, 2018 approaches you realize that, whether it's collusion with the Russians, or Democrats sweeping the midterms, you're about to hear, "times up", and be left lying on the table with an unsatisfied erection.
See, elections and erections aren't mutually exclusive. In fact, if we start talking about money in politics, we'll find amazing parallels between politicians and providers in terms of what people will do for money. So, whether it's who Johnny screwed, or how politicians are screwing Johnny. In the final analysis, it's all about fucking and getting fucked. So I say, "Rant and rave, baby, rant and rave!So, who's screwing Johnny?
Red pill is a bunch of incels and alt right nazis.
I am a feminist myself. I believe that woman are equal in value to men, which allows me to not place pussy on a pedestal. Feminazis do not want equality, they only want it when it's convenient for them. Why do women get preferential treatment to father's in custody disputes? If a couple decides to have sex, why is it just the woman's choice to keep the child? oh because she's carried it? Guess we aren't so equal then.
The Parrot
12-22-17, 23:40
Feminazis do not want equality, they only want it when it's convenient for them. Why do women get preferential treatment to father's in custody disputes? If a couple decides to have sex, why is it just the woman's choice to keep the child? oh because she's carried it? Guess we aren't so equal then.LOL duh, and feminists complain about the stupidest things.
If it was up to them men would be arrested just for talking to random women on the street.
The want all the benefits of true equality, without any of the negative side effects.
Men are busting their asses and SHORTENING their lives to build and mantain the infrastructure. While women sit in an air conditioned building and write blogs online complaining about sexual harassment.
There will be another revolution on some lvl in this country.
The sexual misconduct allegations going on right now are nothing but a witch Hunt for powerful men.
It is the easiest way to take down a powerful man.
A2,
This is not about how much big corporations get from the government, a separate, fair topic, it's about illegals mooching off of the rest of us law-abiding (mostly) citizens. So what if those illegals pay into programs and never receive a dime? THEY AIN'T SUPPOSED TO BE HERE IN THE FIRST PLACE!
We need to build that wall, fine the shit out of anyone who employs such people, arrest the illegals, put them into interment camps and put them to work until they've paid all debts, March their asses to the border (picking up trash on the way of course), boot them in the asses and lock the fuckin' gate. Those who have been booted out never get the opportunity to return. For all future immigrants, force them to follow proper immigration procedures like our ancestors did.
What's the pussy angle for this? Fuck the shit out of all those illegal women before the March to the border. All that work rounding them up builds up blue balls.
You're close, the wall is a joke, obviously you have never been to Texas. The wall is nothing more than another boondoggle to enrich the top .01 % at our expense and racists like you think it's a good idea because your idea of a solution is showing those brown motherfuckers who's boss, it has nothing to do with solving the problem.
What we need is a viable guest worker program. Until Hannity and his ilk started thumping their chest over this problem (which really isn't a problem, we need the labor as Georgia found out when they got too good at cutting down on it) the idea of a guest worker program was a good idea of the right. They don't need to pay anything back because the unclaimed income tax they are already paying pays for the benefits that the very small percentage use.
FYI, other countries don't give a shit. If you were in Argentina with no health insurance (legally or otherwise) and you were in an accident all medical facilities are required by law to treat you at no cost. They do this because they think that medical care is a basic human right in an enlightened society.
Incidentally this problem could be solved over night if they fined any companies employing undocumented workers 100,000 dollars per worker. Have you ever wondered why they don't? They want you to be angry about this issue so they can tell you they will solve it and you will vote for them but they don't actually want to solve this problem because the real supporters of those same people that are telling you how they are going to solve this problem with a wall need those undocumented workers because they can pay them less and work them like dogs.
A2I completely agree, fine every company hiring an illegal migrant $100,000 per illegal migrant and poof the illegal immigration problem disappears.
A2,
You're close, the wall is a joke, obviously you have never been to Texas. The wall is nothing more than another boondoggle to enrich the top .01 % at our expense and racists like you think it's a good idea because your idea of a solution is showing those brown motherfuckers who's boss, it has nothing to do with solving the problem.
What we need is a viable guest worker program. Until Hannity and his ilk started thumping their chest over this problem (which really isn't a problem, we need the labor as Georgia found out when they got too good at cutting down on it) the idea of a guest worker program was a good idea of the right. They don't need to pay anything back because the unclaimed income tax they are already paying pays for the benefits that the very small percentage use.
FYI, other countries don't give a shit. If you were in Argentina with no health insurance (legally or otherwise) and you were in an accident all medical facilities are required by law to treat you at no cost. They do this because they think that medical care is a basic human right in an enlightened society.
Incidentally this problem could be solved over night if they fined any companies employing undocumented workers 100,000 dollars per worker. Have you ever wondered why they don't? They want you to be angry about this issue so they can tell you they will solve it and you will vote for them but they don't actually want to solve this problem because the real supporters of those same people that are telling you how they are going to solve this problem with a wall need those undocumented workers because they can pay them less and work them like dogs.
A2Never been to Texas? Funny, I used to live in a little place called Brownsville while working at the USA Consulate in Matamoros. Is that close enough to Texas for you to understand?
Great, perhaps you can herd all of the illegals here to Argentina for free health care where they can "enlighten" the increasingly large hole in your wallet. We don't want them.
Racist? This topic isn't about race, it's about keeping illegals out, period. If greedy Europeans lived south of the border wanting to come here illegally, same goes. Got to build that wall as a starting point. I don't give a shit who 'wants you (me) to be angry' about the issue. ' I make up my mind based on what I've experienced and seen, not what anyone tells me I should think.
Yes, racist, that much is obvious. And if you indeed lived in Brownsville and think a wall across that vast distance would stop a jackrabbit let alone a person then you are indeed a special kind of stupid.
A2
A2,
This is not about how much big corporations get from the government, a separate, fair topic, it's about illegals mooching off of the rest of us law-abiding (mostly) citizens. So what if those illegals pay into programs and never receive a dime? THEY AIN'T SUPPOSED TO BE HERE IN THE FIRST PLACE!
We need to build that wall, fine the shit out of anyone who employs such people, arrest the illegals, put them into interment camps and put them to work until they've paid all debts, March their asses to the border (picking up trash on the way of course), boot them in the asses and lock the fuckin' gate. Those who have been booted out never get the opportunity to return. For all future immigrants, force them to follow proper immigration procedures like our ancestors did.
What's the pussy angle for this? Fuck the shit out of all those illegal women before the March to the border. All that work rounding them up builds up blue balls.
How can someone claim, "they aren't supposed to be here in the first place", when WE implored them to come fill low-wage jobs that nobody else wanted? Can you imagine begging someone to cross the street outside the crosswalk so they can help you load stuff into your truck, then when the truck's loaded, you call a cop over and insist that the despicable "criminal" be ticketed for jaywalking?
As for how our ancestors immigrated, for some of them, "proper immigration" meant being shackled at gunpoint, crammed into boats, and spirited across the Atlantic to provide free labor. All of which was deemed perfectly legal. When considering the immigration issue we face today, technical "legality" is not the relevant measure. Doing what's right is.
The notion that undocumented immigrants are "moochers" is absolutely ridiculous and completely unfounded. Not only do they pay taxes, every credible economic study done has shown that undocumented immigrants are a net POSITIVE to this country as far as economic contribution. Which is why employers haven't been heavily fined for employing them. Behind every secured border crossing are thousands of big, bright, flashing "Help Wanted" signs, and they don't face the interior of the country. They are pointed across the border. They all feature a winking, nodding caricature of Uncle Sam letting viewers know that proper immigration documentation is not actually necessary.
Who among you wouldn't come accept one of those jobs if YOUR family was so poor they ate rock soup for dinner? Would you go home and eat rock soup with your family, lecturing your children on the virtues of respecting the neighboring country's border "law", when that SAME neighboring country is beckoning you to come work?
There was a time in this country when hard working, god fearing, family men were respected and revered. It's shameful how millions of people here have come to hate these folks, especially considering that, in this case, the most relevant difference between "them and us" is the longitude and latitude of where one happened to have been born.
It seems like sometimes people wrap themselves up in the flag so tightly, it cuts off blood supply to the brain, making them susceptible to the ill-informed, factless, hate-infused rhetoric served up by the politically motivated button pushers. We can and should do better.
Grafenberg
12-23-17, 21:06
Niteluvr, A2 knows you're a racist because you're black and bang white ladies. Since you've only stated immigration policy which is not based on race, A2 CANNOT know your thoughts are racist. Therefore, we can only know that he has watched your interracial videos and assumes that you are racist because of your preference for white women, which is racist. https://studybreaks.com/2017/06/15/racist-dating-preferences/.
https://cis.org/Welfare-Use-Immigrant-Households-Children
Why Study Immigrant Welfare Use?
Use of welfare programs by immigrants is important for two primary reasons. First, it is one measure of their impact on American society. If immigrants have high use rates it could be an indication that they are creating a net fiscal burden for the country. Welfare programs comprise a significant share of federal, and even state, expenditures. Total costs for the programs examined in this study were $517 billion in fiscal year 2008.2 Moreover, those who receive welfare tend to pay little or no income tax. If use of welfare programs is considered a problem and if immigrant use of those programs is thought to be high, then it is an indication that immigration or immigrant policy needs to be a adjusted. Immigration policy is concerned with the number of immigrants allowed into the country and the selection criteria used for admission. It is also concerned with the level of resources devoted to controlling illegal immigration. Immigrant policy, on the other hand, is concerned with how we treat immigrants who are legally admitted to the country, such as welfare eligibility, citizenship requirements, and assimilation efforts.
The Parrot
12-23-17, 21:40
How can someone claim, "they aren't supposed to be here in the first place", when WE implored them to come fill low-wage jobs that nobody else wanted? Can you imagine begging someone to cross the street outside the crosswalk so they can help you load stuff into your truck, then when the truck's loaded, you call a cop over and insist that the despicable "criminal" be ticketed for jaywalking?
As for how our ancestors immigrated, for some of them, "proper immigration" meant being shackled at gunpoint, crammed into boats, and spirited across the Atlantic to provide free labor. All of which was deemed perfectly legal. When considering the immigration issue we face today, technical "legality" is not the relevant measure. Doing what's right is.
The notion that undocumented immigrants are "moochers" is absolutely ridiculous and completely unfounded. Not only do they pay taxes, every credible economic study done has shown that undocumented immigrants are a net POSITIVE to this country as far as economic contribution. Which is why employers haven't been heavily fined for employing them. Behind every secured border crossing are thousands of big, bright, flashing "Help Wanted" signs, and they don't face the interior of the country. They are pointed across the border. They all feature a winking, nodding caricature of Uncle Sam letting viewers know that proper immigration documentation is not actually necessary.
Who among you wouldn't come accept one of those jobs if YOUR family was so poor they ate rock soup for dinner? Would you go home and eat rock soup with your family, lecturing your children on the virtues of respecting the neighboring country's border "law", when that SAME neighboring country is beckoning you to come work?
There was a time in this country when hard working, god fearing, family men were respected and revered. It's shameful how millions of people here have come to hate these folks, especially considering that, in this case, the most relevant difference between "them and us" is the longitude and latitude of where one happened to have been born.
It seems like sometimes people wrap themselves up in the flag so tightly, it cuts off blood supply to the brain, making them susceptible to the ill-informed, factless, hate-infused rhetoric served up by the politically motivated button pushers. We can and should do better.Good philosophy you've got there.
Just remember that there's 2 sides to every coin.
There are some illegal aliens who are committing heinous crimes like rape, home invasion, murder. There needs to be a way to filter out those types; we can't just have an OPEN DOOR policy.
I don't agree with a WIDE OPEN door for anyone to just come in.
In Definitely not against immigration though.
It isn't just Social Security. These folks also pay millions for Workers Comp that they can never file a claim for. As far as paying for schools, many people conveniently ignore the fact that much of that is funded by property taxes. These immigrants don't live in trees and bushes. Every month they give money to their landlord who then forwards some of it to the taxing authority. And finally, anytime you're paid less than someone else for doing the same work because you're undocumented, you're being taxed. Not by the government in that case. But your paycheck is smaller nonetheless.
If someone actually has a legitimate rationale for deporting millions of people, they wouldn't need to ignore facts. The strength of their rationale would win the debate. If they have a weak argument, on the other hand, ignoring facts is their only alternative."These folks also pay millions for Workers Comp".
Companies pay for worker's comp insurance.
"These folks also pay millions for Workers Comp".
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Companies pay for worker's comp insurance..
I have driven through Mexico many times. Every time you cross into a different State you are required to show a passport to prove you are there legally. Then when you leave Mexico you pay an exit fee. They are more strict than the US! In this day and age allowing unverified immigrants into the US is folly. There is no reason the US shouldn't be a sovereign nation.
"These folks also pay millions for Workers Comp".
Companies pay for worker's comp insurance.That's a distinction without a difference. For example, renters fund property taxes, even though landlords write the checks. It doesn't matter who writes the checks for employment taxes and Workers Comp, it's the employee's labor that funds it. In return for services rendered, employers pay out X amount of money to compensate a worker. In the case of an employee, some goes to the employee directly, and some gets paid out on BEHALF of the employee. To Social Security, Medicare, Workers Comp, etc. (The employee also writes checks for "their portion" of taxes). Alternatively, an employer can pay a 1099 subcontractor that entire amount, and let them write checks for taxes and Workers Comp themselves. It's the same amount of money earned by the worker in both cases, just a difference in who writes checks.
There is no reason the US shouldn't be a sovereign nation.Do you know what sovereignty is? Of course the US is sovereign. That's the problem with trying to talk to some of you guys about this shit. You hear this bullshit on some talk radio and you don't fact check and then you repeat it like it means something.
The case could be made that the USA is the most sovereign state in the world because we don't just control our destiny we control the destiny of a majority of the planet.
A2.
I am a feminist myself.Your daddy must be proud!
Perhaps I should have specified Domestic sovereignty, I thought that would have been assumed.
Do you know what sovereignty is? Of course the US is sovereign. That's the problem with trying to talk to some of you guys about this shit. You hear this bullshit on some talk radio and you don't fact check and then you repeat it like it means something.
The case could be made that the USA is the most sovereign state in the world because we don't just control our destiny we control the destiny of a majority of the planet.
A2.
Bigsqueeze
12-24-17, 08:27
How can someone claim, "they aren't supposed to be here in the first place", when WE implored them to come fill low-wage jobs that nobody else wanted? I'm about to adjust my opinion on immigration based on what I've recently read regarding population demographics within the USA. This country badly needs more young workers to pay taxes and support the system. This is a problem worldwide, not just here. I'm sure times will be much different ten years from now. We just ought to cherry pick and bring in the right ones.
Aaron Hamlet
12-24-17, 09:15
Working class hasn't seen a pay raise for forty years when adj for inflation. 20 million illegal workers doing jobs that Americans want, carpenters, plumbers, electricians and other skilled trades that used to lead to a solid mid to upper middle class lifestyle, contributes to that. Home prices any cheaper? No, But the gap between the upper 10% and the bottom 90% has never been wider. Granted, its the people who hire them that is the problem, but legal americans hiring illegal labor isn't new. Once railroad system was built, America ran off the Mexicans and Chinese then. That's how many Chinese ended up in Mexico.
Those here illegally don't exist. No DL, SSN, no prints / dna on file unless they been busted, deported, then snuck back in. Not far to the rest of us. If we commit a crime, they going to find us. Try to pick a medium hgt, medium wgt, brown eyed, black haired Hispanic male out of a line up. And if you don't think some or many crazed muslims have come thru that southern border, you're nuts. I can't believe that after 9/11 all borders weren't secured, overstaying visa made a felony and returning to country after deportation for a crime hasn't led to minimum maximums incarceration.
Don't believe the,'doing jobs americans won't, bullshit. Won't do job for 8 an hour, skilled trades can lead to a good living. Already a program in place for fruit pickers.
Admin is spouting same bullshit he accusses others of spouting. He just listens to diff radio stations, TV channels. You still in Argentina admin? Your papers in order? Your carry your papers on you? As a guest, do you obey that nation's laws? Bet you do. Why? Cause you don't want to get thrown into a jail in Argentina. I've spent time in S. America. I carried my papers with me everywhere. Even kept my receipts after purchases in case the military types carrying automatic weapons stopped me outside the store seeking to enforce VAT.
Aaron Hamlet
12-24-17, 09:39
I know 4 people from foreign lands who've become US citizens. Two from Mexico, two from Brazil. Painters, carpenters, and small business owners / self employed. They followed laws, got Green cards, then citizenship papers. These aren't millionaires all lawyered up. Regular folks. You know why so many don't follow suit? Because you have to apply, so proper I'd, tell where you work, live, identifying marks, family members names and addresses. Then you are in the system and can be found, tracked, deported if you commit a serious misdemeanor or felony. That's why.
I don't understand why if I or any other citizen, native born or naturalized, breaks any motherfucking law on the books we are held fully accountable for our actions while others aren't. Whats up with this selective enforcement of existing laws which don't apply to illegal immigrants or the wealthy elites but apply to all the rest? Who decides which laws to enforce and which ones not to?
Ozymandias
12-24-17, 13:36
Working class hasn't seen a pay raise for forty years when adj for inflation. 20 million illegal workers doing jobs that Americans want, carpenters, plumbers, electricians and other skilled trades that used to lead to a solid mid to upper middle class lifestyle, contributes to that. Home prices any cheaper? No, But the gap between the upper 10% and the bottom 90% has never been wider. Granted, its the people who hire them that is the problem, but legal americans hiring illegal labor isn't new. Once railroad system was built, America ran off the Mexicans and Chinese then. That's how many Chinese ended up in Mexico.
Those here illegally don't exist. No DL, SSN, no prints / dna on file unless they been busted, deported, then snuck back in. Not far to the rest of us. If we commit a crime, they going to find us. Try to pick a medium hgt, medium wgt, brown eyed, black haired Hispanic male out of a line up. And if you don't think some or many crazed muslims have come thru that southern border, you're nuts. I can't believe that after 9/11 all borders weren't secured, overstaying visa made a felony and returning to country after deportation for a crime hasn't led to minimum maximums incarceration.
Don't believe the,'doing jobs americans won't, bullshit. Won't do job for 8 an hour, skilled trades can lead to a good living. Already a program in place for fruit pickers.
Admin is spouting same bullshit he accusses others of spouting. He just listens to diff radio stations, TV channels. You still in Argentina admin? Your papers in order? Your carry your papers on you? As a guest, do you obey that nation's laws? Bet you do. Why? Cause you don't want to get thrown into a jail in Argentina. I've spent time in S. America. I carried my papers with me everywhere. Even kept my receipts after purchases in case the military types carrying automatic weapons stopped me outside the store seeking to enforce VAT.Well, in my experience, Mexicans are better workers than Americans, at least where manual trades are concerned (and nothing beats the Vietnamese; I'll hire them all day long).
I mean, nothing beats a lesbian, who are all uncomplaining work machines like no one else (regardless of type of job), and gay men run second best for an office / professional setting.
Wayyyy down on the totem pole are the worst workers of all, which are dumb redneck white boy motherfuckers, these twenty-something guys who've already shot their credit to hell (they always use a wife or girlfriend to finance their truck) and have a criminal record of minor charges. Their women are okay, except after kid one they put on a thousand pounds which they never bother to lose. Give me one quiet Mexican guy for any three to five rednecks, though.
But surround me with a work cloud of lesbians, gay men and foreigners and I'm pretty happy; I'll take the Americans on as investors, happily.
I'll put my PC filter back on now!
O.
The Parrot
12-24-17, 13:46
Well, in my experience, Mexicans are better workers than Americans, at least where manual trades are concerned (and nothing beats the Vietnamese; I'll hire them all day long).
I mean, nothing beats a lesbian, who are all uncomplaining work machines like no one else (regardless of type of job), and gay men run second best for an office / professional setting.
Wayyyy down on the totem pole are the worst workers of all, which are dumb redneck white boy motherfuckers, these twenty-something guys who've already shot their credit to hell (they always use a wife or girlfriend to finance their truck) and have a criminal record of minor charges. Their women are okay, except after kid one they put on a thousand pounds which they never bother to lose. Give me one quiet Mexican guy for any three to five rednecks, though.
But surround me with a work cloud of lesbians, gay men and foreigners and I'm pretty happy; I'll take the Americans on as investors, happily.
I'll put my PC filter back on now!
O.Can't fully disagree with you, and I'm not a racist. However, Mexicans are known to work fast and hard, but they don't always do a great job. Maybe with landscaping, but with construction their homes are made on weak foundations.
Those cheap wooded houses get build so quickly by Mexicans, but they tear down and degrade even faster than they were built.
I know this firsthand from a few contractors in my family and friends of the family.
They are very hard workers though, and they party twice as hard as they work. Known for being hard drinkers as well.
Sorry if I offended anyone.
The Parrot
12-24-17, 14:10
I really enjoy these political conversations, it enlightens me with new philosophies and perspectives. It also shows everyone's political views / stances on key issues.
More importantly though, what is Donald Trump going to do about North Korea??
Are tougher sanctions really the solution? The UN has been imposing sanctions on the communist regime FOR YEARS; but nothing spectacular has changed.
I don't believe sanctions can force Kim Jong Un to halt nuclear weapon advancement / progress.
Also, North Korea is known for selling weapons and Intel to foreign nations. They will sell to the highest bidder, INCLUDING ISIS and any other radical groups who have the money to spend.
What happens if a nuclear warhead is developed that can strike mainland USA?
Would the North Koreans sell this technology to ISIS, the Russians, or any of our enemies??
Will the communist regime ever be over thrown? Or will it continue to grow and progress, until they are a bigger threat?
Something to think about guys. How do you feel the situation should be handled??
Does Donald Trump have what is takes to dismantle North Korea's nuclear program?
The Parrot
12-24-17, 14:18
If Pence were POTUS, we would all be wearing chastity belts that's for sure. I'll take Trump over Pence anyday of the week even though I do not think much of either of them.I am under the impression that Mike Pence is a very STRICT and STAUNCH CONSERVATIVE.
Basically a good figurehead for the grand old party!
I figure that if Pence becomes POTUS, the GOP will be strengthened and come together in agreement. Right now the GOP is kind of divided, because Trump is NOT your typical conservative.
Mike Pence also seems like he doesn't F around at all.
Social justice warriors would hate him, but who cares?
MrHobbyist
12-24-17, 14:19
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I have driven through Mexico many times. Every time you cross into a different State you are required to show a passport to prove you are there legally. Then when you leave Mexico you pay an exit fee. They are more strict than the US! In this day and age allowing unverified immigrants into the US is folly. There is no reason the US shouldn't be a sovereign nation.Granted, this was 30 years ago, so things may have changed but I spent a lot of time in Tijuana, when I was in the military, not one time did I get asked for I'd going in. Only on my way out. I.
Working class hasn't seen a pay raise for forty years when adj for inflation. 20 million illegal workers doing jobs that Americans want, carpenters, plumbers, electricians and other skilled trades that used to lead to a solid mid to upper middle class lifestyle, contributes to that. Home prices any cheaper? No, But the gap between the upper 10% and the bottom 90% has never been wider. Granted, its the people who hire them that is the problem, but legal americans hiring illegal labor isn't new. Once railroad system was built, America ran off the Mexicans and Chinese then. That's how many Chinese ended up in Mexico.
Those here illegally don't exist. No DL, SSN, no prints / dna on file unless they been busted, deported, then snuck back in. Not far to the rest of us. If we commit a crime, they going to find us. Try to pick a medium hgt, medium wgt, brown eyed, black haired Hispanic male out of a line up. And if you don't think some or many crazed muslims have come thru that southern border, you're nuts. I can't believe that after 9/11 all borders weren't secured, overstaying visa made a felony and returning to country after deportation for a crime hasn't led to minimum maximums incarceration.
Don't believe the,'doing jobs americans won't, bullshit. Won't do job for 8 an hour, skilled trades can lead to a good living. Already a program in place for fruit pickers.
Admin is spouting same bullshit he accusses others of spouting. He just listens to diff radio stations, TV channels. You still in Argentina admin? Your papers in order? Your carry your papers on you? As a guest, do you obey that nation's laws? Bet you do. Why? Cause you don't want to get thrown into a jail in Argentina. I've spent time in S. America. I carried my papers with me everywhere. Even kept my receipts after purchases in case the military types carrying automatic weapons stopped me outside the store seeking to enforce VAT.Look at a historical chart showing this country's embarrassing economic inequality gap and you'll see that it began with Reaganomics. Stagnant wages have resulted from "trickle down" economics that didn't trickle down. We're so smart, though, we blame that on undocumented immigrants while we watch wealthy, elitist politicians enact another round of "trickle down" tax reform to please their wealthy sponsors.
Here's an article to help you understand that there is a SHORTAGE of workers in the skilled trades: http://fortune.com/2017/09/18/hurricane-maria-hurricane-jose-construction-jobs/. We're so smart though, we're going to claim that undocumented immigrants are keeping Americans from taking those jobs.
Here, AGAIN, is the article that A2 posted about crops rotting in the Georgia fields when immigrant labor was scared off: https://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2011/06/georgias-harsh-immigration-law-costs-millions-in-unharvested-crops/240774/ I remember when that happened and farmers couldn't even get prison labor to come pick fruits and veggies. We're so smart though, we're going to pretend that didn't happen because it contradicts our narrative.
Hmmm. Makes me wonder: Are we actually smart, or are we really just full of shit?
Aaron Hamlet
12-24-17, 17:55
Look at a historical chart showing this country's embarrassing economic inequality gap and you'll see that it began with Reaganomics. Stagnant wages have resulted from "trickle down" economics that didn't trickle down. We're so smart, though, we blame that on undocumented immigrants while we watch wealthy, elitist politicians enact another round of "trickle down" tax reform to please their wealthy sponsors.
Here's an article to help you understand that there is a SHORTAGE of workers in the skilled trades: http://fortune.com/2017/09/18/hurricane-maria-hurricane-jose-construction-jobs/. We're so smart though, we're going to claim that undocumented immigrants are keeping Americans from taking those jobs.
Here, AGAIN, is the article that A2 posted about crops rotting in the Georgia fields when immigrant labor was scared off: https://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2011/06/georgias-harsh-immigration-law-costs-millions-in-unharvested-crops/240774/ I remember when that happened and farmers couldn't even get prison labor to come pick fruits and veggies. We're so smart though, we're going to pretend that didn't happen because it contradicts our narrative.
Hmmm. Makes me wonder: Are we actually smart, or are we really just full of shit?Income inequality began under Nixon, especially post Bretton Woods 2. Exacerbated since, after Obama's 8 years, widest in modern US history. Obama also led the first US econ recovery where all gains+ went to the top 10%, mainlt top 1%.
I've been the construction related industries for over 20 years. Don't need to read an article. I've seen it happen.
Seems like you the one claiming to be smart. I'm done. Not smart enough to compete with you genius'.
Uncle Sam has learned the hard way some times. Saying that, they should get stricter with people who cross the border. Maybe not build a wall but hire a lot of border patrol. If they want in the USA That's fine. Just make all new ones crossing the border go through the proper steps to live here. Take their picture and keep track of where they live here while going through the process. Aaron has some pretty damn good points.
Uncle Sam has learned the hard way some times. Saying that, they should get stricter with people who cross the border. Maybe not build a wall but hire a lot of border patrol. If they want in the USA That's fine. Just make all new ones crossing the border go through the proper steps to live here. Take their picture and keep track of where they live here while going through the process. Aaron has some pretty damn good points.In the 80's-90's crossing the border cost was 300-500 was easy no to much control, people was able to go two times per year to see family, but then they decided to strengthen surveillance so prices went up, what you do? You can't go back, you bring your family! Some of your kids are born here, now to cross the border is 7. 5 k to 10 k who is wining drug cartels who control human traffic, back then most man came to make a living and send enough to the family hopping they can have how to live worthily and at best be able to go to school and get a career so they don't have to emigrate like he did, but now they all are here and they they are really running out of choices, I know a guy from Guatemala, he was sent back to his country but his family and job was her, he is back!! Took him 2 months to cross three borders.
MrHobbyist
12-25-17, 05:16
In the 80's-90's crossing the border cost was 300-500 was easy no to much control, people was able to go two times per year to see family, but then they decided to strengthen surveillance so prices went up, what you do? You can't go back, you bring your family! Some of your kids are born here, now to cross the border is 7. 5 k to 10 k who is wining drug cartels who control human traffic, back then most man came to make a living and send enough to the family hopping they can have how to live worthily and at best be able to go to school and get a career so they don't have to emigrate like he did, but now they all are here and they they are really running out of choices, I know a guy from Guatemala, he was sent back to his country but his family and job was her, he is back!! Took him 2 months to cross three borders.Now that is persistence! He actually risked his life trying to go through Chiapas, that state is absolutely lawless except for the corrupt Federales who would just as soon shoot an illegal from Guatemala than bring him in. Mexican border patrol is vicious. My son in law's parents came across from Honduras in the late 70's. They made it in time for the Regan era amnesty. I feel bad for anyone trying to get into Mexico these days. It was hard back then, now it's nearly impossible for families to get all the way across their countries through Mexico. They are really tough on illegals there. It's unfortunate, because it's only hard on families trying to flee the terror in their own countries. Now, the criminals, they have it easy they can skip across Mexico like going from Cali to Nevada because they know who to pay off and who to avoid.
In the 80's-90's crossing the border cost was 300-500 was easy no to much control, people was able to go two times per year to see family, but then they decided to strengthen surveillance so prices went up, what you do? You can't go back, you bring your family! Some of your kids are born here, now to cross the border is 7. 5 k to 10 k who is wining drug cartels who control human traffic, back then most man came to make a living and send enough to the family hopping they can have how to live worthily and at best be able to go to school and get a career so they don't have to emigrate like he did, but now they all are here and they they are really running out of choices, I know a guy from Guatemala, he was sent back to his country but his family and job was her, he is back!! Took him 2 months to cross three borders.Back in 2-3 months? That's exactly why we need that wall. It's like a typical military operation:
1. Secure the perimeter (build the wall).
2. Secure the interior (remove undesirables).
3. Let good people live in peace, pay their taxes, don't get into trouble, and prosper.
Mexico and other countries need to fix their own problems. If they had their shit together like Canada, we wouldn't need a wall.
I really enjoy these political conversations, it enlightens me with new philosophies and perspectives. It also shows everyone's political views / stances on key issues.
More importantly though, what is Donald Trump going to do about North Korea??
Are tougher sanctions really the solution? The UN has been imposing sanctions on the communist regime FOR YEARS; but nothing spectacular has changed.
I don't believe sanctions can force Kim Jong Un to halt nuclear weapon advancement / progress.
Also, North Korea is known for selling weapons and Intel to foreign nations. They will sell to the highest bidder, INCLUDING ISIS and any other radical groups who have the money to spend.
What happens if a nuclear warhead is developed that can strike mainland USA?
Would the North Koreans sell this technology to ISIS, the Russians, or any of our enemies??
Will the communist regime ever be over thrown? Or will it continue to grow and progress, until they are a bigger threat?
Something to think about guys. How do you feel the situation should be handled??
Does Donald Trump have what is takes to dismantle North Korea's nuclear program?Tough sanctions will put pressure on North Korea, but it won't stop their nuke program because it's their only trump card (excuse the pun). North Korea will continue to do anything to make a buck so we'll see increased evidence of their illicit activities. There is evidence that sanctions are working but North Korea goes to great lengths to hide it. South Korean intelligence knows a ton but they don't make it known publicly and they don't share everything with the US.
Kim knows that if he ever launches a nuke at us, it's game over. The Chinese won't protect him and neither will the Russians, so he'll simply commit suicide when his time comes.
I'm amazed we agree almost 100%.
Question (not argument) you don't think he's crazy enough to pop it at the end of his time because he wants his country to die with him? I do.
A2
Well, in my experience, Mexicans are better workers than Americans, at least where manual trades are concerned (and nothing beats the Vietnamese; I'll hire them all day long).
I mean, nothing beats a lesbian, who are all uncomplaining work machines like no one else (regardless of type of job), and gay men run second best for an office / professional setting.
Wayyyy down on the totem pole are the worst workers of all, which are dumb redneck white boy motherfuckers, these twenty-something guys who've already shot their credit to hell (they always use a wife or girlfriend to finance their truck) and have a criminal record of minor charges. Their women are okay, except after kid one they put on a thousand pounds which they never bother to lose. Give me one quiet Mexican guy for any three to five rednecks, though.
But surround me with a work cloud of lesbians, gay men and foreigners and I'm pretty happy; I'll take the Americans on as investors, happily.
I'll put my PC filter back on now!
O.Them redneck white guys are horrible. They'll hold up the line at the liquor store on Friday afternoon so they can cash their weekly checks for a 6% fee, then deplete local supplies of Miller High Life so other folks are forced to fend for themselves. Highly unconscionable!
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Once more and you gotta go.
Not joking, I don't care if it's me or somebody else, you don't get to make death threats. I know you're just some disgruntled old drunk but there are lines.
A2
Ozymandias
12-26-17, 23:33
Tough sanctions will put pressure on North Korea, but it won't stop their nuke program because it's their only trump card (excuse the pun). North Korea will continue to do anything to make a buck so we'll see increased evidence of their illicit activities. There is evidence that sanctions are working but North Korea goes to great lengths to hide it. South Korean intelligence knows a ton but they don't make it known publicly and they don't share everything with the US.
Kim knows that if he ever launches a nuke at us, it's game over. The Chinese won't protect him and neither will the Russians, so he'll simply commit suicide when his time comes.
I'm amazed we agree almost 100%.
Question (not argument) you don't think he's crazy enough to pop it at the end of his time because he wants his country to die with him? I do.
A2My hunch about Kim is that, basically, I doubt he's fully in charge; it's even possible he's a figurehead.
North Korea operates, essentially, as a kind of totalitarian cult; they have always needed a charismatic, even godlike, figurehead. In this case, a glorious family of figureheads, Kims 1, 2, and (now) 3. NK is a complex enough operation for a government (ironic to consider, but keeping a dumpster fire of a nation like NK afloat is probably much more challenging than, say, running the USA, which can actually just buy and lease stuff it needs), so there is NO WAY it's the kind of one-man show it appears to be.
I think Kim's job is to *seem* borderline nuts ("he fed his uncle to a dog! WTF!" ), since that's what keeps the threat of their handful of rocketless nukes effective as a deterrent.
I think the USA, at the intelligence level, knows this as well, which is why no "decapitation" ops have been run against NK. Yes, it's remote and secure, but parachuting a team in to take out Kim is far from impossible; it hasn't been done because removing Kim won't *actually* leave NK rudderless. There's an executive presence either behind him or alongside him.
Note that this is pure conjecture on my part. I have some insider understanding of elements of Asia, but NK isn't included; it's just the gamesman in me looking at the situation: it's simply unfeasible that Kim - doughy, soft, luxury-loving Kim - is the kind of talented strongman who can operate as an authentic, totalitarian dictator; what we have here - I'd wager money on it - is a kind of oligarchy or similar.
So "mad Kim" is less a strategic threat than it is simply a psyop.
O.
HobbyMan51
12-27-17, 01:32
My hunch about Kim is that, basically, I doubt he's fully in charge; it's even possible he's a figurehead.
North Korea operates, essentially, as a kind of totalitarian cult; they have always needed a charismatic, even godlike, figurehead. In this case, a glorious family of figureheads, Kims 1, 2, and (now) 3. NK is a complex enough operation for a government (ironic to consider, but keeping a dumpster fire of a nation like NK afloat is probably much more challenging than, say, running the USA, which can actually just buy and lease stuff it needs), so there is NO WAY it's the kind of one-man show it appears to be.
I think Kim's job is to *seem* borderline nuts ("he fed his uncle to a dog! WTF!" ), since that's what keeps the threat of their handful of rocketless nukes effective as a deterrent.
I think the USA, at the intelligence level, knows this as well, which is why no "decapitation" ops have been run against NK. Yes, it's remote and secure, but parachuting a team in to take out Kim is far from impossible; it hasn't been done because removing Kim won't *actually* leave NK rudderless. There's an executive presence either behind him or alongside him.
Note that this is pure conjecture on my part. I have some insider understanding of elements of Asia, but NK isn't included; it's just the gamesman in me looking at the situation: it's simply unfeasible that Kim - doughy, soft, luxury-loving Kim - is the kind of talented strongman who can operate as an authentic, totalitarian dictator; what we have here - I'd wager money on it - is a kind of oligarchy or similar.
So "mad Kim" is less a strategic threat than it is simply a psyop.
O.Interesting analysis. I have wondered the same thing myself: how can this fat weenie be the only "strongman" to keep that country in line. An oligarchy of sorts makes sense....and much more difficult to deal with.
My hunch about Kim is that, basically, I doubt he's fully in charge; it's even possible he's a figurehead.
North Korea operates, essentially, as a kind of totalitarian cult; they have always needed a charismatic, even godlike, figurehead. In this case, a glorious family of figureheads, Kims 1, 2, and (now) 3. NK is a complex enough operation for a government (ironic to consider, but keeping a dumpster fire of a nation like NK afloat is probably much more challenging than, say, running the USA, which can actually just buy and lease stuff it needs), so there is NO WAY it's the kind of one-man show it appears to be.
I think Kim's job is to *seem* borderline nuts ("he fed his uncle to a dog! WTF!" ), since that's what keeps the threat of their handful of rocketless nukes effective as a deterrent.
I think the USA, at the intelligence level, knows this as well, which is why no "decapitation" ops have been run against NK. Yes, it's remote and secure, but parachuting a team in to take out Kim is far from impossible; it hasn't been done because removing Kim won't *actually* leave NK rudderless. There's an executive presence either behind him or alongside him.
Note that this is pure conjecture on my part. I have some insider understanding of elements of Asia, but NK isn't included; it's just the gamesman in me looking at the situation: it's simply unfeasible that Kim - doughy, soft, luxury-loving Kim - is the kind of talented strongman who can operate as an authentic, totalitarian dictator; what we have here - I'd wager money on it - is a kind of oligarchy or similar.
So "mad Kim" is less a strategic threat than it is simply a psyop.
O.Kim is far from a figurehead, he's a total dictator like his father and grandfather. He rules like most dictators do, with a combination of fierce loyalty, threats, intimidation and harsh punishment. Guys like that can't afford to share power. If they did, someone would take advantage of that (like his uncle) and have to be purged. We don't know if his uncle and cronies were fed to hungry dogs and ripped to shreds, blown apart by an anti-aircraft gunfire or other means; however, we do know that once someone falls out of favor, no sign of their ever having existed will remain (ya can't be a dictator and leave evidence, ya know).
Why not drop a special ops team in and take him out? First, you'd have to find him. Shouldn't be difficult to find the only fat man in the country with the goofy haircut, right? Yet only his small, trusted circle knows where he'll be at any given moment so, by the time any special ops team were to find him, he could have ordered an all-out blitzkrieg offensive on the South. That means thousands of artillery (even 50 yo artillery can be effective), missiles, chemical / biological weapons, spies in the South disrupting C3 operations and a slew of other crazy shit. Plus, he now has nukes, an added bonus. He can hit everywhere in South Korea and hit it hard. Consider that you have approximately 25 million people in the greater Seoul area, most of whom would die instantly. Millions of others would follow once those chemical and bio weapons did their thing. Besides, the US military is notorious for being weak on NBC (nuclear / biological / chemical) training and wouldn't be able to counter it worth a shit.
Back in 1981 when Gen. Wickham was the USFK Commander, I asked him why we don't take out Kim Il Sung. We already knew that the North was doing research on nukes. Wickham said that it would be the perfect time to go in because it would only get worse with time, but Congress would never give the green light. Now we have a bigger mess. If the current Kim used nukes on the South and / or hit Guam / Japan, it would make Chernobyl look like a leaky bicycle tire.
Personally, I think we should economically and physically seal that country shut (starve them out). We're not doing nearly enough in that regard. A lot of these recent "tough" sanctions the UN has imposed have the effect of poking an elephant with a toothpick because our partner countries aren't enforcing them. Paraphrasing Gen. Colin Powell in 1991 (you have to "cut it off and kill it. ".
Personally, I think we should economically and physically seal that country shut (starve them out). We're not doing nearly enough in that regard. A lot of these recent "tough" sanctions the UN has imposed have the effect of poking an elephant with a toothpick because our partner countries aren't enforcing them. Paraphrasing Gen. Colin Powell in 1991 (you have to "cut it off and kill it. ".I deleted all the other stuff to save space and because we agree 100% on this.
Question, don't you think doing this would cause him to push that same button?
Kim is far from a figurehead, he's a total dictator like his father and grandfather. He rules like most dictators do, with a combination of fierce loyalty, threats, intimidation and harsh punishment. Guys like that can't afford to share power. If they did, someone would take advantage of that (like his uncle) and have to be purged. We don't know if his uncle and cronies were fed to hungry dogs and ripped to shreds, blown apart by an anti-aircraft gunfire or other means; however, we do know that once someone falls out of favor, no sign of their ever having existed will remain (ya can't be a dictator and leave evidence, ya know).
Why not drop a special ops team in and take him out? First, you'd have to find him. Shouldn't be difficult to find the only fat man in the country with the goofy haircut, right? Yet only his small, trusted circle knows where he'll be at any given moment so, by the time any special ops team were to find him, he could have ordered an all-out blitzkrieg offensive on the South. That means thousands of artillery (even 50 yo artillery can be effective), missiles, chemical / biological weapons, spies in the South disrupting C3 operations and a slew of other crazy shit. Plus, he now has nukes, an added bonus. He can hit everywhere in South Korea and hit it hard. Consider that you have approximately 25 million people in the greater Seoul area, most of whom would die instantly. Millions of others would follow once those chemical and bio weapons did their thing. Besides, the US military is notorious for being weak on NBC (nuclear / biological / chemical) training and wouldn't be able to counter it worth a shit.
Back in 1981 when Gen. Wickham was the USFK Commander, I asked him why we don't take out Kim Il Sung. We already knew that the North was doing research on nukes. Wickham said that it would be the perfect time to go in because it would only get worse with time, but Congress would never give the green light. Now we have a bigger mess. If the current Kim used nukes on the South and / or hit Guam / Japan, it would make Chernobyl look like a leaky bicycle tire.
Personally, I think we should economically and physically seal that country shut (starve them out). We're not doing nearly enough in that regard. A lot of these recent "tough" sanctions the UN has imposed have the effect of poking an elephant with a toothpick because our partner countries aren't enforcing them. Paraphrasing Gen. Colin Powell in 1991 (you have to "cut it off and kill it. ".Sealing off NK both economically and physically would be near impossible when you consider North Korea's long border with China. The key is China, if the Chinese wanted rocket-man gone overnight they could probably do it, but then there would be chaos in NK, resulting in a massive influx of North Korean's into China. This massive influx of North Koreans could prove too destabilizing for China, which is the last thing the Chinese leaderships needs or wants at this time. The Chinese also do not want a united Korean peninsula with USA Troops stationed just across their border. To summize, the Chinese fear the U.S. much more than the rocket-man dictator in NK.
The Parrot
12-29-17, 06:01
Another thing about Kim Jong Un, he is bat shit crazy. If enough pressure is applied, I'm sure he would launch whatever nuclear / hydrogen / biological weapons he has.
Of course he can't win a war, BUT he could do great damage and go out with a BANG.
I don't believe there can be a bloodless victory in dealing with North Korea. People are going to get hurt, period!!
Bunnery Sgt
12-29-17, 10:00
Sealing off NK both economically and physically would be near impossible when you consider North Korea's long border with China. The key is China, if the Chinese wanted rocket-man gone overnight they could probably do it, but then there would be chaos in NK, resulting in a massive influx of North Korean's into China. This massive influx of North Koreans could prove too destabilizing for China, which is the last thing the Chinese leaderships needs or wants at this time. The Chinese also do not want a united Korean peninsula with USA Troops stationed just across their border. To summize, the Chinese fear the U.S. much more than the rocket-man dictator in NK.Funny you should say that.
http://www.cnn.com/2017/12/28/politics/president-donald-trump-china-north-korea-oil/index.html
Johnny Mapalo
12-29-17, 11:53
I'm about fed up with this and now have decided to create this thread specifically to teach you guys how to post freaking links correctly. I don't want to see anymore bad links posted for 2018. None! Consider this you guys early New Years present from me to you. Ok guys, let's first start off with a few pre-requistes before moving on to the lesson. Let's start off reciting our A,B,C's. Sing along with me guys.
A-B-C-D-E-F-G-H-I-H-K-ELLO-MENO-P-Q-are-S-T-you-V-W-X-why-Z, now we know our ABC's next I want you to sing with me.
Now, let's count from 1 to 10, guys.
1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8-9-10.
Now, let's hold hands and walk to the front of the yellow boys, guys.
Lesson 1:
Escort babylon website links. Look below:
https://escortbabylon.net/#atlanta / reviews /4707988494/4125719.
https://escortbabylon.net/#!/atlanta/reviews/4707988494/4125719
Link 1 above was posted the way most of you guys post it and the link is sparsed. Link 2 was posted the correct way and it was not sparsed. The difference between the 2 links? The 1 link was posted copy and paste right from the website. The second link was posted with URL open and closed tags. You have to put URL open and close tags infront and behind the escort bablyon links in order for them to post correctly. Just like you place Quote open and / Quoute tags when you want to quote someone post to reply to it. Without the URL open and close tags before and after the escort bablyon links, the link will post sparsed and incorrectly. Capish.
Lesson 2.
Backpage Links. Stop using backpage links to post reviews. Those ads only last 1 week usually before they are deleted by the scam artist providers. Just google the chic's number and look for a link outside of the backpage ads. Those other links on other websites last longer than backpage links. Now, that backpage has numbers only on the ad, every link should post correctly when you post it. At first, with the wording some links would post incorrectly, but now they're good.
We complain a lot about simps overpaying for crap service but we rarely educate what we consider worth paying. I'm sure each of you have your own standards but these are mine.
My goal for any provider despite looks or location is 40 qv BBBJ / cfs. The closer I can get to that the better I can enjoy my nut.
60 is the highest I will go for a qv.
HH I aim for 80 or under but will go up to 120 if reviews, looks, rules and location are good.
I have no need for an HR or more.
I have 2 current go tos for 20 BBBJ.
MrHobbyist
01-01-18, 06:01
I'm about fed up with this and now have decided to create this thread specifically to teach you guys how to post freaking links correctly. I don't want to see anymore bad links posted for 2018. None! Consider this you guys early New Years present from me to you. Ok guys, let's first start off with a few pre-requistes before moving on to the lesson. Let's start off reciting our A,B,C's. Sing along with me guys.
A-B-C-D-E-F-G-H-I-H-K-ELLO-MENO-P-Q-are-S-T-you-V-W-X-why-Z, now we know our ABC's next I want you to sing with me.
Now, let's count from 1 to 10, guys.
1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8-9-10.
Now, let's hold hands and walk to the front of the yellow boys, guys.
Lesson 1:
Escort babylon website links. Look below:
https://escortbabylon.net/#atlanta / reviews /4707988494/4125719.
https://escortbabylon.net/#!/atlanta/reviews/4707988494/4125719
Link 1 above was posted the way most of you guys post it and the link is sparsed. Link 2 was posted the correct way and it was not sparsed. The difference between the 2 links? The 1 link was posted copy and paste right from the website. The second link was posted with URL open and closed tags. You have to put URL open and close tags infront and behind the escort bablyon links in order for them to post correctly. Just like you place Quote open and / Quoute tags when you want to quote someone post to reply to it. Without the URL open and close tags before and after the escort bablyon links, the link will post sparsed and incorrectly. Capish.
Lesson 2.
Backpage Links. Stop using backpage links to post reviews. Those ads only last 1 week usually before they are deleted by the scam artist providers. Just google the chic's number and look for a link outside of the backpage ads. Those other links on other websites last longer than backpage links. Now, that backpage has numbers only on the ad, every link should post correctly when you post it. At first, with the wording some links would post incorrectly, but now they're good.URLs also get parsed. When you copy and paste them directly. .
How many decades do you think it will take for american society to change it's views on decriminalization / legalization of prostitution? I think its possible seeing how sex for pleasure purposes is not so taboo anymore. Also the millienial anti slutt shaming campaign makes being a sex worker more legitimate in the eyes of society imo.
The Parrot
01-02-18, 21:56
How many decades do you think it will take for american society to change it's views on decriminalization / legalization of prostitution? I think its possible seeing how sex for pleasure purposes is not so taboo anymore. Also the millienial anti slutt shaming campaign makes being a sex worker more legitimate in the eyes of society imo.If prostitution was legalized, simp rates would be charged every time.
I think it's best where it is right now.
I can see it now: 500 for the average blonde next door.
Ozymandias
01-03-18, 00:03
How many decades do you think it will take for american society to change it's views on decriminalization / legalization of prostitution? I think its possible seeing how sex for pleasure purposes is not so taboo anymore. Also the millienial anti slutt shaming campaign makes being a sex worker more legitimate in the eyes of society imo.Literally half of Americans don't believe in evolution.
We are a nation of ignorant, primitive mofos; something as progressive as decriminalizing prostitution? Not in our lifetime, probablyear old.
If prostitution was legalized, simp rates would be charged every time.
I think it's best where it is right now.
I can see it now: 500 for the average blonde next door.What are rates like in other first world countries with legal prostitution? Quick googling shows Holland red light district at 50€ QV which is about 60qv American. And that is highly regulated tourist sector. I’m not convinced outlawing drives down prices.
Ozymandias
01-03-18, 11:59
What are rates like in other first world countries with legal prostitution? Quick googling shows Holland red light district at 50 QV which is about 60qv American. And that is highly regulated tourist sector. Im not convinced outlawing drives down prices.Legal stuff usually isn't cheaper, and often is more expensive (compare buying a stereo at Best Buy versus from the back of a van at QT). The difference is safety and consistency of service; when you can sue or otherwise track a business, it shapes up a bit.
So legal prostitution I would expect to be about the same pricewise, maybe with more available tiers, but it would be more regulated, more attentive to customer service issues, and so on.
Girls would have to be licensed, declare income, maybe provide proof of periodic STD testing, etc. And of course those costs would be passed on to the marketplace. And you'd see the usual price pressures in tourist areas and so on; I'm sure in Atlanta you could pay a premium to fuck a blond Buckhead model in Neiman Marcus's "Fuck Department", or head to Walmart to get sucked off by a bargain Rockdale County hood chick.
But this is never, ever happening in the USA.
O.
Legal stuff usually isn't cheaper, and often is more expensive (compare buying a stereo at Best Buy versus from the back of a van at QT). The difference is safety and consistency of service; when you can sue or otherwise track a business, it shapes up a bit.
So legal prostitution I would expect to be about the same pricewise, maybe with more available tiers, but it would be more regulated, more attentive to customer service issues, and so on.
Girls would have to be licensed, declare income, maybe provide proof of periodic STD testing, etc. And of course those costs would be passed on to the marketplace. And you'd see the usual price pressures in tourist areas and so on; I'm sure in Atlanta you could pay a premium to fuck a blond Buckhead model in Neiman Marcus's "Fuck Department", or head to Walmart to get sucked off by a bargain Rockdale County hood chick.
But this is never, ever happening in the USA.
O.You can't compare stolen goods with services. My brother lives in CO and legal weed is cheaper and better.
What are rates like in other first world countries with legal prostitution? Quick googling shows Holland red light district at 50 QV which is about 60qv American. And that is highly regulated tourist sector. Im not convinced outlawing drives down prices.Amsterdam has reduced the size of the red light district, where girls set the standard for quick visit. They may say 15 minutes, but you'll be out the door in 10 no matter what.
If you want to have real fun, a club like Jan Bik, or Yab Yum is the place to go. Yab Yum may be closed now, but other similar clubs are there. The price difference is huge from the red light district, kind of like a $1 steak taco to a $50 steak at Bones.
Me, life is too short to eat $1 tacos.
Also, several swinger clubs there that allow single males. Have fun.
HighFlyer21
01-07-18, 08:37
My room mate and I were supposed to see her for a double. She ghosted. Sais she had phone probs.
ActionJohn
01-13-18, 10:33
SOme rants.
Why does this blog censor words? We talk about X rated stuff and casual sexual slang and slightly misogynistic words gets censored by the software? USe a different setting.
Anyone annoyed with idiot women who eat and then don't bother to brush their teeth or at least rinse with mouthwash if they don't have time to brush? You are in the freaking whoring business. Your body is for sale. Maintain all aspects of it to make it as enticing as you can.
And then women who don't wash their ass. (Redd Foxx is agreeing with me right now from the grave). I like to simulate sex with some massage therapists by humping between their butt cheeks. One lady would occasionally have TP fragments. I stopped seeing her.
Firm Offer
01-21-18, 17:25
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MikeAsEscorts
01-22-18, 14:51
Just because a few mongers can't stay on topic do we have to have the whole thread closed down? I enjoyed reading it and keeping up with the parties. Can't admin just scold the off topic posters? Just seems like a bit much.I was actually trying to set some things straight. I didn't know how strict conversations had to be on a forum site for escorts. Geez.
TheFrostyOne
01-22-18, 17:24
Just because a few mongers can't stay on topic do we have to have the whole thread closed down? I enjoyed reading it and keeping up with the parties. Can't admin just scold the off topic posters? Just seems like a bit much.Agree 100%. Why not just ban the offenders. Lots of people got a lot of value out of that thread before it was hijacked.
Just because a few mongers can't stay on topic do we have to have the whole thread closed down? I enjoyed reading it and keeping up with the parties. Can't admin just scold the off topic posters? Just seems like a bit much.Did you miss the part where I said that nobody had talked about pussy in at least the last 100 posts. It wasn't a "few mongers" since I'm pretty good at what I do, if it was a "few mongers" I probably would have done what you suggested.
Maybe I'll open it again, but it needed a serious cooling off.
On a side note, thank you for bringing this up here on the appropriate thread.
A2.
Johnny Mapalo
01-23-18, 16:03
Court is now in session. I want to Rant on Sugar Babies and the Seeking Arrangements site. I just signed up for a membership 1 month ago and have since been inundated with messages and phone numbers that I don't even know what to do with them. You guys got to realize that its a hustle game those broads are running on that SA site. It's a numbers game to them. Most of those broads love praying on new members. They message as many sugar simps / daddies as they can to get as many options as possible.
Just 2 days ago some Asian chic messaged me from out of nowhere with "You available now". I never viewed this chic's profile in my life. I responded with "sure" and she messaged me with her phone number on the next message. Never did I ever ask for her phone number. When I text her "Hello", she called me back immediately but I never answered. I then asked her what was she looking for and she said, "$3000". LOL. Not 3 hundred but 3 thousand. Double LOL. I asked what does she need all that money for and she said she was trying to bail her mother out of jail. Triple LOL.
I asked what was she offering for that type of change and she bluntly replied, "Head and Pussy". Wow! No shame in that chic's game. I've had many similar interactions. Chics whose page I never viewed before message me out of nowhere saying hi, followed with their phone number. I've gotten roughly 20 unsolicited phone numbers without even asking. Those chics know exactly what they're doing on that Sugar Baby site.
They may be naive to the typical hooker jargon, BBBJ, cfs, etc. , but they know darn well what guys are expecting for that money. I've even had one text me out of the blue and ask "How do you like to Fuck". Say what? When I began to inquire more after she sent me her phone number, she hit me with $500. Ok. I told her I didn't have it and her price is her price so I wouldn't try to lowball her. She replied, "This is not prostitution-We are establishing an arrangement. "Price" is not a good word to use". Sure hun, whatever rocks your boat.
The delusionalism on that site is real. Chics on there selling ass and think its just an arrangement. LOL. Granted, there are some that are only trying to sell you a wet dream. I had some wanting money in exchange for friendship. Some just want money in exchange for going out and dancing. Some wanting money via cash app to cash and dash on you. Not all on their or prostitutes or escorts or professional or whatever you want to call them. Some are genuinely looking for a Sugar Simp who will get little to nothing in return.
The one thing I like about that site though. The quality of women look way better than the low-priced dumpster trash you see milling around on craigslist and backpage. There are a whole lot to choose from too. Most of those chics have been on that site for years though running that hustle game pretending to be brand new. They just delete their old account after a few months and start up a new one again pretending to be the new kid on the block.
Also, if your new to the site. Prepare for endless broads to message you like crazy. Those broads prey on new dudes. You wouldn't believe how many messages and phone numbers I had waiting on me when I eventually paid for the site (I had an unpaid profile for 2 weeks but couldn't read my messages or message anyone back). I use my real pics too, from a camera phone. About 8 full body pics. Those are the same pics I use when I place ads on backpage or craigslist so I could care less what they do with them.
I think that may be why I get a lot of messages too, because I use real full pics. Have fun guys!!
TheFrostyOne
02-11-18, 13:14
I happen to know of at least one that would have gotten some more players if the thread had been open.
Thanks!
I can't seem to wrap my head around these SIMPS lining up to fuck these nasty ass Snapchat thots. People say they are being pissed on, shitted on, tossing salads and letting every dude nut in them. I get some weirdos have fetishes.
But it seems more idiots have death wishes. Clearly these chicks don't care one bit about their health or anyone else's. But yet you simps are breaking your necks to fuck them RAW. Also why the fuck do you losers run back and tell chicks what is discussed on this forum. Fucking pointless! These rental. Pussy are not going to cut you a deal or give you special treatment. All you are doing is giving them GPS. Immediately price goes up and service goes down. I am speaking of decent chicks and not these scum ass Snapchat cum dumpsters. I wish we could find out who was doing that weak shit so we could banned their as forever.
Yes a google number can be traced back to you, but it kind of depends on who you are trying to avoid.Not mine, my real number is unlisted. Some years back I exposed a provider posting fake reviews on this board. She got pissed and got one of her clients a private detective to track me down so she could expose my extracurricular activities to my employer, it failed.
FarFarAway
02-24-18, 12:45
Not mine, my real number is unlisted. Some years back I exposed a provider posting fake reviews on this board. She got pissed and got one of her clients a private detective to track me down so she could expose my extracurricular activities to my employer, it failed.You're joking, right? Unlisted makes you unidentifiable? No way. If you really want to maintain anonymity, you need a burner prepaid, and I recommend adding in Google voice on it, so you can abandon any numbers that get compromised. There are discussions of this currently no several other SD threads.
I don't think you've been reading these threads very long. There are strategies to deal with all of these issues. I have many times gotten hotels w / an assumed name / fake address, I just pay cash. The most important point I want to make apropos the current thread is that you can indeed have a secret, unfindable, disposable phone # - get a prepaid burner w / Android, and use GV. That GV # is *not* traceable back to you. I have a googlemail account too, and there is no way that comes back to me so long as I only use Tor to log into the site, without fail. It would truly take the NSA to find me, and I can assure you POTs and SBs don't have those resources.I've been on this thread about as long as it's been on here. I've also been doing the SD / SB thing for years. I'm just realistic about how easy it would be for law enforcement to track me down. Your phone isn't the only way to get your identity. I'd love to here what major hotel chain will let you check in without a picture I'd. I'm not interested in going to some ratty notel. And your car? Like I said in my original comment, if your SB is going anywhere near your car, then you've given away your identity. How about a pic of you? You don't think you can ever be photographed? These are all ways in which your identity is at risk. And they're ways that many SDs interact with their SBs, going out to eat, picking them up or even meeting at a hotel.
You're joking, right? Unlisted makes you unidentifiable? No way. If you really want to maintain anonymity, you need a burner prepaid, and I recommend adding in Google voice on it, so you can abandon any numbers that get compromised. There are discussions of this currently no several other SD threads.Actually I am not kidding, it stumped that private eye. FWIW, my first name on my "real" phone shows up as a city in the USA My last name shows up as one of the fifty states. It goes without saying I use Google voice to monger.
FarFarAway
02-26-18, 14:24
I've been on this thread about as long as it's been on here. I've also been doing the SD / SB thing for years. I'm just realistic about how easy it would be for law enforcement to track me down. Your phone isn't the only way to get your identity. I'd love to here what major hotel chain will let you check in without a picture I'd. I'm not interested in going to some ratty notel. And your car? Like I said in my original comment, if your SB is going anywhere near your car, then you've given away your identity. How about a pic of you? You don't think you can ever be photographed? These are all ways in which your identity is at risk. And they're ways that many SDs interact with their SBs, going out to eat, picking them up or even meeting at a hotel.'these threads' - well, you really need to be reading the master thread, for Richmond VA. The active thread and archive there are invaluable. To your specific questions. I have checked into several Choice Hotels w / a photo I'd but w / a reservation under a misspelling of my name and a fictitious address. You can also prepay w / Hotwire, or use the services like Hotelbyday, etc. W / your sugar name. The desk clerk never looks too closely at my DL, after they've seen me a couple of times they don't bother. You can also easily get a fake photo I'd from the dark web. I use a reloadable debit card that doesn't show up on my credit report, and then settle my bill in cash. It takes a few days for the $ to go back on the card. I have a second license plate I bought off of EBay from a guy who has a local wrecker. I pop it on about half a mile from the meetup. I also put black tape over the VIN. All registration etc. Is locked in the glove box.
2me4Looking2
02-27-18, 11:00
'these threads' - well, you really need to be reading the master thread, for Richmond VA. The active thread and archive there are invaluable. To your specific questions. I have checked into several Choice Hotels w / a photo I'd but w / a reservation under a misspelling of my name and a fictitious address. You can also prepay w / Hotwire, or use the services like Hotelbyday, etc. W / your sugar name. The desk clerk never looks too closely at my DL, after they've seen me a couple of times they don't bother. You can also easily get a fake photo I'd from the dark web. I use a reloadable debit card that doesn't show up on my credit report, and then settle my bill in cash. It takes a few days for the $ to go back on the card. I have a second license plate I bought off of EBay from a guy who has a local wrecker. I pop it on about half a mile from the meetup. I also put black tape over the VIN. All registration etc. Is locked in the glove box.That's a lot of work, but it seems like the effort completely breaks down if the SB is LE. I know that people like to say that LE usually won't do a sting as outcall, but some of your effort is for someone specifically targeting you and if LE wants you and not a general sting then there is no reason your SB can't be undercover LE. I'd also be concerned about getting pulled over with a fake tag. They will take you to jail for that. If you want to go that route then more power to you, I'm only suggesting that there is still a fairly easy way for you to get caught.
Airmantroy
02-27-18, 12:12
That's a lot of work, but it seems like the effort completely breaks down if the SB is LE. I know that people like to say that LE usually won't do a sting as outcall, but some of your effort is for someone specifically targeting you and if LE wants you and not a general sting then there is no reason your SB can't be undercover LE. I'd also be concerned about getting pulled over with a fake tag. They will take you to jail for that. If you want to go that route then more power to you, I'm only suggesting that there is still a fairly easy way for you to get caught.For LE to "specifically" target one individual with a sting using a SB as an undercover. Never ever going to happen. There are waaaaaayyyyy too many variables to even consider that as a possibility. Here's why:
First they'd have to create a SB profile on whatever site, then they'd have to hope and pray that their "target" was even interested in said profile. You see where I'm headed?
The fake tag would get you in more hot water than anything, since LE has tag readers in use all over town.
2me4Looking2
02-27-18, 15:34
For LE to "specifically" target one individual with a sting using a SB as an undercover. Never ever going to happen. There are waaaaaayyyyy too many variables to even consider that as a possibility. Here's why:
First they'd have to create a SB profile on whatever site, then they'd have to hope and pray that their "target" was even interested in said profile. You see where I'm headed?
The fake tag would get you in more hot water than anything, since LE has tag readers in use all over town.It's pretty trivial for them to make a bunch of fake profiles and cast a wide net. Remember if you are concerned about LE tracing your phone then they already have a reason to go after you and they are already willing to do all the legal leg work to get the records they want. I'm not saying it's highly likely, I'm just saying that if you are going to be so concerned about 100% anonymity then there is always going to be a breakdown if you are meeting someone in person.
Airmantroy
02-27-18, 17:17
It's pretty trivial for them to make a bunch of fake profiles and cast a wide net. Remember if you are concerned about LE tracing your phone then they already have a reason to go after you and they are already willing to do all the legal leg work to get the records they want. I'm not saying it's highly likely, I'm just saying that if you are going to be so concerned about 100% anonymity then there is always going to be a breakdown if you are meeting someone in person.There is no way they'd even consider wasting that much time for a charge of soliciting, if they want someone that bad, there are plenty of other things they could do that'd be easier and faster than waiting for a guy to message some fake profile, MEET the undercover girl chosen at random from a group of fake profiles (who by the way has to match the profile pics). I'd bet my life on it. TWICE. The odds of winning every lottery in the country on the same day are better. Now, go driving thru Chamblee with a fake tag and you may find yourself with some nice shiny bracelets and a cell mate named Bubba.
FarFarAway
02-27-18, 18:24
That's a lot of work, but it seems like the effort completely breaks down if the SB is LE. I know that people like to say that LE usually won't do a sting as outcall, but some of your effort is for someone specifically targeting you and if LE wants you and not a general sting then there is no reason your SB can't be undercover LE. I'd also be concerned about getting pulled over with a fake tag. They will take you to jail for that. If you want to go that route then more power to you, I'm only suggesting that there is still a fairly easy way for you to get caught.Why would I get pulled over w / a fake tag? How can LE tell it's not good? They may run a fascist state down in Georgia, but not where I'm from. Ideally, I put the tag on in the next door parking lot. Is it a crime to have a vehicle sitting on private property with an improper tag? Or even no tag? I'd think so. There are lots of solutions to this problem. Did you read the Steve Jobsbook? He *never* had his car tagged. He did this by getting a new Mercedes every 6 months, b / c California has a deal where you can have your paper registration for that long. LE doesn't check this stuff. I have a friend who has a license plate flipper. Pushes a button on the dash and the real one is out, pushes again and the sugar one is out.
FarFarAway
02-27-18, 18:27
It's pretty trivial for them to make a bunch of fake profiles and cast a wide net. Remember if you are concerned about LE tracing your phone then they already have a reason to go after you and they are already willing to do all the legal leg work to get the records they want. I'm not saying it's highly likely, I'm just saying that if you are going to be so concerned about 100% anonymity then there is always going to be a breakdown if you are meeting someone in person.I have been around this site and the bowl for a while, and I have *never* heard of anyone running in to LE based on a contact through SA. There are some news reports of people getting into trouble with the law, and it turns out that they met through SA, but that's it. This is not something to worry about, especially if you are truly looking for a SB. If you use SA to find your local escorts / BP girls, there might be a little more risk. I hope that people are smarter than that. There will always be a way to find streetwalkers, escorts, etc. But I really hope that those can be kept off SA, b / c that is the only thing that would take it down. Some of us SA users really are looking for an arrangement, and there's no better place for it.
FarFarAway
02-27-18, 18:39
'these threads' - well, you really need to be reading the master thread, for Richmond VA. The active thread and archive there are invaluable. To your specific questions. I have checked into several Choice Hotels w / a photo I'd but w / a reservation under a misspelling of my name and a fictitious address. You can also prepay w / Hotwire, or use the services like Hotelbyday, etc. W / your sugar name. The desk clerk never looks too closely at my DL, after they've seen me a couple of times they don't bother. You can also easily get a fake photo I'd from the dark web. I use a reloadable debit card that doesn't show up on my credit report, and then settle my bill in cash. It takes a few days for the $ to go back on the card. I have a second license plate I bought off of EBay from a guy who has a local wrecker. I pop it on about half a mile from the meetup. I also put black tape over the VIN. All registration etc. Is locked in the glove box.Ah, and the one approach I forgot. Have the SB get the room and just give her $ for it. I have even gotten one to agree to a deal that the sugar and the room are a fixed amount. She economizes to put $ in her pocket. This kind of stuff is kindergarten over on the Richmond arrangements thread.
It's pretty trivial for them to make a bunch of fake profiles and cast a wide net. Remember if you are concerned about LE tracing your phone then they already have a reason to go after you and they are already willing to do all the legal leg work to get the records they want. I'm not saying it's highly likely, I'm just saying that if you are going to be so concerned about 100% anonymity then there is always going to be a breakdown if you are meeting someone in person.There is no way that a police department is going to put the resources and cost into nailing one guy for solicitation. That's crazy thought.
Also, before meeting a new SB don't ask for sexual acts in exchange for compensation. There is nothing to be paranoid about then.
Peter Johnson
02-28-18, 00:39
I doubt LE would bother busting dudes on SA. It is just more challenging, because the money you give these girls is ostensibly not for sex. Of course you could say that with Backpage too, but would be harder to prove in more cases with SA. Of course some guys will start overly offering money for sex acts, but not all of them. So it's more work for LE and they hate doing real work.
The only possibility is that they could just do a bust for show and to make an example of someone. But I don't know that they care that much about SA. And I believe SA is based out of some European country, so makes it more difficult to f*ck with the owners of the site like they did with Backpage here. It just isn't high on their list.
FarFarAway
02-28-18, 02:00
I doubt LE would bother busting dudes on SA. It is just more challenging, because the money you give these girls is ostensibly not for sex. Of course you could say that with Backpage too, but would be harder to prove in more cases with SA. Of course some guys will start overly offering money for sex acts, but not all of them. So it's more work for LE and they hate doing real work.
The only possibility is that they could just do a bust for show and to make an example of someone. But I don't know that they care that much about SA. And I believe SA is based out of some European country, so makes it more difficult to f*ck with the owners of the site like they did with Backpage here. It just isn't high on their list.Hmm. When did Hong Kong become part of Europe?
Airmantroy
02-28-18, 08:51
Why would I get pulled over w / a fake tag? How can LE tell it's not good? They may run a fascist state down in Georgia, but not where I'm from. Ideally, I put the tag on in the next door parking lot. Is it a crime to have a vehicle sitting on private property with an improper tag? Or even no tag? I'd think so. There are lots of solutions to this problem. Did you read the Steve Jobsbook? He *never* had his car tagged. He did this by getting a new Mercedes every 6 months, b / c California has a deal where you can have your paper registration for that long. LE doesn't check this stuff. I have a friend who has a license plate flipper. Pushes a button on the dash and the real one is out, pushes again and the sugar one is out.LE has cameras on their vehicles that scan your plate and almost instantly they get a signal if something is wrong, I got pulled over in my truck because I had the tailgate dropped hauling some plywood and the reader couldn't see my tag, the officer told me what had happened, apologized for the trouble and we went on our merry way. These cameras are in use all over Ga, I haven't seen them elsewhere. Anything that conceals / decieves the identity of ownership of a vehicle is going to be considered illegal by 99.9% of LE.
A mechanical tag flipper? That guy needs to find a different hobby if he's that paranoid. Maybe HMSS is looking for a Bond replacement.
2me4Looking2
02-28-18, 10:22
There is no way that a police department is going to put the resources and cost into nailing one guy for solicitation. That's crazy thought.
Also, before meeting a new SB don't ask for sexual acts in exchange for compensation. There is nothing to be paranoid about then.I actually agree with you. My comments were in response to some of the measures other's have mentioned in order to stay anonymous. It just seems that if you are that worried, then meeting in person is also a risk. It all started by posts saying that your Google Voice number could be traced back to you, which again requires LE to be specifically targeting you and doing the legal work to get Google to release the info.
Oh and I didn't realize we were ranting and raving. Bitchin!
2me4Looking2
02-28-18, 10:40
Why would I get pulled over w / a fake tag? How can LE tell it's not good? They may run a fascist state down in Georgia, but not where I'm from. Ideally, I put the tag on in the next door parking lot. Is it a crime to have a vehicle sitting on private property with an improper tag? Or even no tag? I'd think so. There are lots of solutions to this problem. Did you read the Steve Jobsbook? He *never* had his car tagged. He did this by getting a new Mercedes every 6 months, b / c California has a deal where you can have your paper registration for that long. LE doesn't check this stuff. I have a friend who has a license plate flipper. Pushes a button on the dash and the real one is out, pushes again and the sugar one is out.Yes LE will randomly run a tag. It happens all the time. I've had that happen when driving a relative's car and their insurance had lapsed. It's one thing to explain an expired tag and whole different thing to explain a completely fake one. In GA it is illegal to even park a car with an expired tag on public property and they can and will tow your car for that. It just seems like a big risk to me, but if you are comfortable with it.
Aaron Hamlet
02-28-18, 10:45
Why would I get pulled over w / a fake tag? How can LE tell it's not good? They may run a fascist state down in Georgia, but not where I'm from. Ideally, I put the tag on in the next door parking lot. Is it a crime to have a vehicle sitting on private property with an improper tag? Or even no tag? I'd think so. There are lots of solutions to this problem. Did you read the Steve Jobsbook? He *never* had his car tagged. He did this by getting a new Mercedes every 6 months, b / c California has a deal where you can have your paper registration for that long. LE doesn't check this stuff. I have a friend who has a license plate flipper. Pushes a button on the dash and the real one is out, pushes again and the sugar one is out.They scan the barcode on the plate's sticker. They sit idling waiting for a hit.
I'm really starting to dislike all the "any info" or " has anyone see" posters that have not done one legit helpful review or contribute somewhat except be a number for the site. Now I know it has been discussed before of how the site needs people like these but my goodness I think its getting worse. How do some of these people have 4/5/6 posts straight just asking for info? And its simple to tell go on their profile page and all you see are questions, which makes it even worse.
If this applies to you, just do better, do your own research, or better yet go out there and see what is going on and then report back, stop trying to be mister magoo with all the questions.
Novalimber2
03-04-18, 11:43
I'm really starting to dislike all the "any info" or " has anyone see" posters that have not done one legit helpful review or contribute somewhat except be a number for the site. Now I know it has been discussed before of how the site needs people like these but my goodness I think its getting worse. How do some of these people have 4/5/6 posts straight just asking for info? And its simple to tell go on their profile page and all you see are questions, which makes it even worse.
If this applies to you, just do better, do your own research, or better yet go out there and see what is going on and then report back, stop trying to be mister magoo with all the questions.I agree with you. Recently I posted about Jessica in Kennesaw. I received over 30 PM's asking for her number. I responded to all. I then posted a message that I would like some feedback either as a Post or PM. I received only two responses!
Many guys want info, but not willing reciprocate. TOO BAD, I learned my lesson.
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Two things, just because it's a fight thread doesn't mean you can do anything and this post only illustrates your ignorance on the economics of running a forum like this.
This is the second time you have told guys why they shouldn't post on the forum, this isn't baseball, this is two strikes and you're out.
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I shared a ssbbw with a great personality and excellent service on the CL forum a few weeks ago. Some fucktard told her about the board, she made a user name and started threatening me for sharing her info. Come on guys. Be cool and when someone hooks you up with info say you got it from a friend or read it on a bathroom wall or what the fuck ever. The first rule of sex guide is we don't tell women about sex guide!
IslandParty
03-16-18, 13:03
Same type of shit happen to me except the girl was not pissed, but she did have a case of golden pussy for a short time after the simp informed her about this site. That's a good enough reason to not share this site with providers, they will jack your rates up real quick.
You need to explain that one. A chick finds out about a site where guys can share knowledge (knowledge is power) which in nearly every place in the world I have ever been keeps prices down yet you think that will raise them?
Not giving you a hard time but I use the forum everywhere I go so I know what the customary charges are in the area I am at. To me it's an extremely effective tool to keep costs down.
Of course I don't give a shit if some chick sees what I write about her. if she's good and wants more of my money she won't break my balls and if she was bad who gives a fuck if she sees my review. But that's just me.
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I shared a ssbbw with a great personality and excellent service on the CL forum a few weeks ago. Some fucktard told her about the board, she made a user name and started threatening me for sharing her info. Come on guys. Be cool and when someone hooks you up with info say you got it from a friend or read it on a bathroom wall or what the fuck ever. The first rule of sex guide is we don't tell women about sex guide!It's a public site. Learn how to manage your hookers. Dont' give them any real info about you and if the call you up busting your balls hang the fuck up and go fuck a different one.
Fuck, it's not rocket science, either they do what you say or somebody else gets the money, that's the ENTIRE reason you pay the money.
It's exactly like this "somebody at my shoe store found out that I said something bad about the store now they are busting my ass and saying maybe they won't sell me anymore shoes." Yet a couple times a month somebody is posting "some hooker found out what I wrote and now she's unhappy." So fucking what.
Seriously?
A2
I am new to the massage game and want to get my first nuru massage with a very happy ending (FS). I prefer petite girls and live in the NE suburbs of Atlanta. Any recommendations would be greatly appreciated.You want true nuru with a FS finish? From the NE suburbs you'll want to hop onto 85 south until you get close to College Park. From there you can fly non-stop to Narita or Haneda and catch the express train into the city. After you get settled in, make your way to Yoshiwara, the Soapland district. There are plenty of foreigner-friendly spots there, the link below suggests five of them. There's another I just read about (not listed in the top 5 link) that specializes in petite girls with big racks. That one might be my first stop when I next visit Tokyo.
https://tokyonightstyle.com/blog/trendingnews/top-5-soaplands-in-yoshiwara-for-foreigners/
NeedyUnchin
03-19-18, 08:21
You want true nuru with a FS finish? From the NE suburbs you'll want to hop onto 85 south until you get close to College Park. From there you can fly non-stop to Narita or Haneda and catch the express train into the city. After you get settled in, make your way to Yoshiwara, the Soapland district. There are plenty of foreigner-friendly spots there, the link below suggests five of them. There's another I just read about (not listed in the top 5 link) that specializes in petite girls with big racks. That one might be my first stop when I next visit Tokyo.
https://tokyonightstyle.com/blog/trendingnews/top-5-soaplands-in-yoshiwara-for-foreigners/*Bucket list updated*.
Now to find an excuse to go to Japan.
Ozymandias
03-19-18, 09:54
*Bucket list updated*.
Now to find an excuse to go to Japan.The girls in those places are pretty much all Filipinas.
Japan is great (I have a house there and spend a few months a year over there, off and on), but if you're just looking to tag LBFM pussy, Thailand and the Philippines are better deals.
O.
The Parrot
03-20-18, 22:08
I hate how "fat" chicks are always grouped in a super broad category. It's almost as if people believe a woman is either skinny or fat; which are 2 EXTREMES.
What about legitimate THICK women with PHAT asses, who are NOT FAT?? Or MUSCULAR women?
What about SLIM thick women? Look it up!
Some mongers can be so biased and bigoted, but these type of mongers always have lots of cash. So I guess the bigoted, and cut-throat mentality got them to where they are today.
Also, what about the distinction between women who are LEGITIMATELY skinny, and women who are anorexic with visible ribs??
Why must everything be considered black / white, polar opposites with nothing in between?
Of course I'm not here to dik-police. Enjoy the providers you like, but please try to describe these women ACCURATELY.
Sheesh!
This part was funny "Of course I'm not here to dik-police.
Because that's exactly what you intended to do.
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The Parrot
03-21-18, 13:20
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That's because you put up bullshit like this.
Yes you were and saying you weren't doesn't mean you weren't.
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De Mortgage
03-26-18, 07:35
This is not a Rave or Rant more of a question. Does / has anyone tried Tinder (in regards to just a pump and dump)? If so any luck? What the quailty (as in looks) of the woman?
I'm putting this here instead of the AMP section because I'm not naming it until I go back for a proper review.
So all those AMP tips about having your cock facing down, rub her legs and ass to let her know you're up for more, arching your butt when she runs her hands up your thigh, etc? Yeah, sometimes just being still on the table selling your hands to yourself is enough.
This is a place that's been reviewed before, mostly indifferently, but has maybe had 4-5 staff / ownership changes in the last 18 months. Last there last summer because after 2 bad massages and no he I was done.
But the other day work was long, traffic sucked, and I had a headache. All I had was. 60, but I just wanted a relaxing rubdown. I'm driving by this place and as long as I don't recognize anyone and there's no waiting, I'm in.
So my person is about mid 30's, pleasant face. Not fat, but maybe stocky. Loose jeans and a t-shirt.
When she comes in she plays with my ass while talking to me; but that's fake tease 101. Later, when she's kneeling on the table, knees either side of my head, I swear she's grinding her crotch on the top of my head. I keep my hands to myself. Massaging the legs, she doesn't reach up an abnormal amount. I'm not responding, so who knows if she's testing me or just fake teasing. I am uncovered the whole time but again this means nothing.
Does the hot towel and pats me dry. Removes the towel and does this very soft fingernail rake that feels amazing. Then she starts moving down the crack until she's fondling the boys. Flip over and she keeps going. I had to stop her because no matter what, she was only getting a. 10 tip and since I'm thinking I want to come back no point in pissing her off. Gave me a nice foot massage instead.
Recap: massage was good and I need to go back to check out the extras. And sometimes you'll get offered an HE by just minding your own business.
YeOldHornDawg
03-28-18, 16:30
I'm putting this here instead of the AMP section because I'm not naming it until I go back for a proper review.
So all those AMP tips about having your cock facing down, rub her legs and ass to let her know you're up for more, arching your butt when she runs her hands up your thigh, etc? Yeah, sometimes just being still on the table selling your hands to yourself is enough.
This is a place that's been reviewed before, mostly indifferently, but has maybe had 4-5 staff / ownership changes in the last 18 months. Last there last summer because after 2 bad massages and no he I was done.
But the other day work was long, traffic sucked, and I had a headache. All I had was. 60, but I just wanted a relaxing rubdown. I'm driving by this place and as long as I don't recognize anyone and there's no waiting, I'm in.
So my person is about mid 30's, pleasant face. Not fat, but maybe stocky. Loose jeans and a t-shirt.
When she comes in she plays with my ass while talking to me; but that's fake tease 101. Later, when she's kneeling on the table, knees either side of my head, I swear she's grinding her crotch on the top of my head. I keep my hands to myself. Massaging the legs, she doesn't reach up an abnormal amount. I'm not responding, so who knows if she's testing me or just fake teasing. I am uncovered the whole time but again this means nothing.
Does the hot towel and pats me dry. Removes the towel and does this very soft fingernail rake that feels amazing. Then she starts moving down the crack until she's fondling the boys. Flip over and she keeps going. I had to stop her because no matter what, she was only getting a. 10 tip and since I'm thinking I want to come back no point in pissing her off. Gave me a nice foot massage instead.
Recap: massage was good and I need to go back to check out the extras. And sometimes you'll get offered an HE by just minding your own business.Did I miss it? Which parlor are you talking about here?
Did I miss it? Which parlor are you talking about here?He said he'd tell us later, whenever that is.
KingSlayer22
03-29-18, 20:06
When 10 of you say you are showing up to a party and ghost the day before without a sorry I can't make it are now on the "black list" . In case you didn't know those of us that do parties share info on those we don't want to give info out to or allow to each others events. These things require time and effort to bring the girls to that level of trust but also screening folks, making the arrangements, contactimg people etc. So when you say " Count me in" and don't have the coutesy to say hey something came up when I ask. You've now made it to the ignore list for info on girls and never allowed to another party list. So here's to you fucktards.
It's a public site. Learn how to manage your hookers. Dont' give them any real info about you and if the call you up busting your balls hang the fuck up and go fuck a different one.
Fuck, it's not rocket science, either they do what you say or somebody else gets the money, that's the ENTIRE reason you pay the money.
It's exactly like this "somebody at my shoe store found out that I said something bad about the store now they are busting my ass and saying maybe they won't sell me anymore shoes." Yet a couple times a month somebody is posting "some hooker found out what I wrote and now she's unhappy." So fucking what.
Seriously?
A2Man I died laughing reading this one. Admin got down. Lmao!!
The Parrot
03-29-18, 23:49
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It doesn't matter how many times you do this, I'm just going to keep deleting them.
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Aaron Hamlet
04-03-18, 12:50
Fuck you. I gave you info on an UTR, you made an appt. , she drove 40 miles to you and you ghosted. That's a ho move, son. A punk ass ***** move, you fucking punk clown fuck. And to the other motherfucker, if not the same, that I gave her info to but you never shared info of the one you claimed to have to share, fuck you too. Grown men acting like little bitches. No wonder so many of these ho's act so shady.
Fuck you. I gave you info on an UTR, you made an appt. , she drove 40 miles to you and you ghosted. That's a ho move, son. A punk ass ***** move, you fucking punk clown fuck. And to the other motherfucker, if not the same, that I gave her info to but you never shared info of the one you claimed to have to share, fuck you too. Grown men acting like little bitches. No wonder so many of these ho's act so shady.While I agree with you that the guy who had a girl drive 40 miles, for nothing, is a fucking punk clown fuck. You however deserve what you had coming with the other dude who did not share his girls information with you. Karma is *****, as you did the same thing to me 5+ years ago.
Aaron Hamlet
04-03-18, 18:45
While I agree with you that the guy who had a girl drive 40 miles, for nothing, is a fucking punk clown fuck. You however deserve what you had coming with the other dude who did not share his girls information with you. Karma is *****, as you did the same thing to me 5+ years ago.If you're the same nuguy I'm thinking of from 5 years ago, that utr chick got stood up too, she was out of gas and I couldn't get away so I gave you her info and you saved that ho and she showed her appreciation. That's how I remember that. I didn't ask you for nothing in return. Your memory fails you.
Fuck you. I gave you info on an UTR, you made an appt. , she drove 40 miles to you and you ghosted. That's a ho move, son. A punk ass ***** move, you fucking punk clown fuck. And to the other motherfucker, if not the same, that I gave her info to but you never shared info of the one you claimed to have to share, fuck you too. Grown men acting like little bitches. No wonder so many of these ho's act so shady.That was me. I told her to be somewhere at 9 and she said she was there and I was there. She was nowhere to be found. Then she told me she gave me the wrong color of her car. Okay. Before she was coming to meet me she called me from a different number than the one you gave me which made me wonder. Gave her another chance to meet me that night after she said she gave me the wrong color of her car but she told me to lose her number. She was very fast in texts and didn't even stay at the place we were supposed to meet if she was there. She was here in the area because she sent me a text of somewhere else she went to. When she called me from a different number she didn't even talk to me when I answered. Don't know what your girl was doing and don't care. It's not my fault when a girl like her acts off, is spooked, or whatever.
Aaron Hamlet
04-03-18, 22:17
That was me. I told her to be somewhere at 9 and she said she was there and I was there. She was nowhere to be found. Then she told me she gave me the wrong color of her car. Okay. Before she was coming to meet me she called me from a different number than the one you gave me which made me wonder. Gave her another chance to meet me that night after she said she gave me the wrong color of her car but she told me to lose her number. She was very fast in texts and didn't even stay at the place we were supposed to meet if she was there. She was here in the area because she sent me a text of somewhere else she went to. When she called me from a different number she didn't even talk to me when I answered. Don't know what your girl was doing and don't care. It's not my fault when a girl like her acts off, is spooked, or whatever.I guess that's the same as:
'Tried to see your girl, but the exchange with her was off. '.
But not really. A truth, the truth doesn't really exist. Only different versions of the same story. For example. A version of a story I heard regarding a related incident was that you offered to p/up GB chick, get room. schedule and call eager participants at number they gave you. You ghosted on them, too. But as I said, the truth doesn't exist, only different versions of the same story. I'm done with this.
I guess that's the same as:
'Tried to see your girl, but the exchange with her was off. '.
But not really. A truth, the truth doesn't really exist. Only different versions of the same story. For example. A version of a story I heard regarding a related incident was that you offered to p/up GB chick, get room. schedule and call eager participants at number they gave you. You ghosted on them, too. But as I said, the truth doesn't exist, only different versions of the same story. I'm done with this.I never started anything on that one just talked to the guy offering to help him with his girl maybe. You are legit yourself most of the time on here though you have offered up some girls before you never showed us or were very vague. I did keep in mind that your girl was possibly going to be a miss and it was a huge miss but that has nothing to do with you as far as I know. Jimmy. Jimmy crack corn and I don't care.
The Parrot
04-04-18, 00:56
Fuck you. I gave you info on an UTR, you made an appt. , she drove 40 miles to you and you ghosted. That's a ho move, son. A punk ass ***** move, you fucking punk clown fuck. And to the other motherfucker, if not the same, that I gave her info to but you never shared info of the one you claimed to have to share, fuck you too. Grown men acting like little bitches. No wonder so many of these ho's act so shady.Wow, you guys are allowed to curse at and directly insult one another??
When I do stuff like that it's called: "pointless drama. ".
I have even had my words removed, or changed to say something I didn't want to say.
Very interesting, but carry on.
That's because they are men acting as men and you are a preening peacock who mostly acts like a drama queen.
"Very interesting, but carry on." Do you think you're David Niven or something?
A2
If you're the same nuguy I'm thinking of from 5 years ago, that utr chick got stood up too, she was out of gas and I couldn't get away so I gave you her info and you saved that ho and she showed her appreciation. That's how I remember that. I didn't ask you for nothing in return. Your memory fails you.Hopefully, I've not deleted the messages you and I exchanged from 5 years ago. I will post as soon as I find them and show the board what an a $$ you are.
Remember Aaron you and me both were victims of that psycho Majesty from years back.
ExecTranspo
04-04-18, 06:49
This is not a Rave or Rant more of a question. Does / has anyone tried Tinder (in regards to just a pump and dump)? If so any luck? What the quailty (as in looks) of the woman?I've gotten all kinda cooze on tinder. Mostly fat cum guzzlers, which I like. But an ok variety as well. Few UTR's there too.
Johnny Mapalo
04-04-18, 11:24
I never started anything on that one just talked to the guy offering to help him with his girl maybe. You are legit yourself most of the time on here though you have offered up some girls before you never showed us or were very vague. I did keep in mind that your girl was possibly going to be a miss and it was a huge miss but that has nothing to do with you as far as I know. Jimmy. Jimmy crack corn and I don't care.Not wanting to get into the middle of the back and forth drama. Well, maybe I do. Hehe. But, Zipper, you seemed like the type of guy that likes to put yourself in the kitchen and when it gets too hot, you disappear and is no where to be found. I get that from reading alot of your post. Seems like you didn't like the way Aaron Hamlet's utr girl look, so you went ghost on her. It was actually your fault since Aaron said that he didn't have any pics of his Utr.
He "never showed us or was very vague" in the description. 5'6 160 lbs, big tits, big ass, no pics is how he described her. Some of you dudes be so thirsty, you set the date, she gets to the meet up spot so you can get a good look at her 1st, you don't like what you see, so you bail on her. That's what it sounds like to me. No pics, no date. You should have known better. You let your thirst for a utr, make you forget your senses. Would you go see a backpage chic with no pics posted and only a vague description in the ad. You should have just been straight up with the chic, gave her some gas money for her time and got the hell on.
Sounds like the same thing happened when you were supposed to get a room for a gang bang girl and went ghost. Now your saying, "You talked to that guy and offered to help him with that girl maybe ". Maybe? Come on dude, after the fact your now saying you offered to help. Maybe? Ok.
Also, when that pimp posted a week ago in the gangbang thread that he was offering up his wife for $200 per head, you were one the the first replying to his post for an invite. Seems to be a habit of yours of trying to be in everything all the time, then you bail at the last minute. Just take a deep breathe and relax dude. Not every and anything is meant phuck.
Last but not least, moderator, stop deleting people's post in the Rants and Rave section. I thought that's what it was created for. So people can rant and rave. As long as your not threatening anyone or posting anyone's government info, anything should be acceptable. Is the deletion a personal decision of the mod himself or is it a recommended or collaborated decision by the mods and / or the higher ups? Stop with the Rants and Raves deletion. I hope this post actually makes it off the cutting floor.
Not wanting to get into the middle of the back and forth drama. Well, maybe I do. Hehe. But, Zipper, you seemed like the type of guy that likes to put yourself in the kitchen and when it gets too hot, you disappear and is no where to be found. I get that from reading alot of your post. Seems like you didn't like the way Aaron Hamlet's utr girl look, so you went ghost on her. It was actually your fault since Aaron said that he didn't have any pics of his Utr.
He "never showed us or was very vague" in the description. 5'6 160 lbs, big tits, big ass, no pics is how he described her. Some of you dudes be so thirsty, you set the date, she gets to the meet up spot so you can get a good look at her 1st, you don't like what you see, so you bail on her. That's what it sounds like to me. No pics, no date. You should have known better. You let your thirst for a utr, make you forget your senses. Would you go see a backpage chic with no pics posted and only a vague description in the ad. You should have just been straight up with the chic, gave her some gas money for her time and got the hell on.
Sounds like the same thing happened when you were supposed to get a room for a gang bang girl and went ghost. Now your saying, "You talked to that guy and offered to help him with that girl maybe ". Maybe? Come on dude, after the fact your now saying you offered to help. Maybe? Ok.
Also, when that pimp posted a week ago in the gangbang thread that he was offering up his wife for $200 per head, you were one the the first replying to his post for an invite. Seems to be a habit of yours of trying to be in everything all the time, then you bail at the last minute. Just take a deep breathe and relax dude. Not every and anything is meant phuck.
Last but not least, moderator, stop deleting people's post in the Rants and Rave section. I thought that's what it was created for. So people can rant and rave. As long as your not threatening anyone or posting anyone's government info, anything should be acceptable. Is the deletion a personal decision of the mod himself or is it a recommended or collaborated decision by the mods and / or the higher ups? Stop with the Rants and Raves deletion. I hope this post actually makes it off the cutting floor.You are overthinking. Aaron's girl did send me a picture and I was interested. She was being sketchy when it came time to meet. As far as that pump offering his wife, was interested and was waiting but then he was banned and that was that.
The Parrot
04-05-18, 00:02
Not wanting to get into the middle of the back and forth drama. Well, maybe I do. Hehe. But, Zipper, you seemed like the type of guy that likes to put yourself in the kitchen and when it gets too hot, you disappear and is no where to be found. I get that from reading alot of your post. Seems like you didn't like the way Aaron Hamlet's utr girl look, so you went ghost on her. It was actually your fault since Aaron said that he didn't have any pics of his Utr.
He "never showed us or was very vague" in the description. 5'6 160 lbs, big tits, big ass, no pics is how he described her. Some of you dudes be so thirsty, you set the date, she gets to the meet up spot so you can get a good look at her 1st, you don't like what you see, so you bail on her. That's what it sounds like to me. No pics, no date. You should have known better. You let your thirst for a utr, make you forget your senses. Would you go see a backpage chic with no pics posted and only a vague description in the ad. You should have just been straight up with the chic, gave her some gas money for her time and got the hell on.
Sounds like the same thing happened when you were supposed to get a room for a gang bang girl and went ghost. Now your saying, "You talked to that guy and offered to help him with that girl maybe ". Maybe? Come on dude, after the fact your now saying you offered to help. Maybe? Ok..I definitely agree with you on the last part. I am the most censored member on the board. I don't even get a chance to explain myself, and sometimes my words are changed to say something different.
It's always like: "no, you did xyz because I said so!
And then any reply after is just removed. Honestly, I'll be surprised if this gets through without being butchered.
Or without a condescending comment written in blue.
And I give sooo much info on the board, you would think things would be better for me.
I definitely agree with you on the last part. I am the most censored member on the board. I don't even get a chance to explain myself, and sometimes my words are changed to say something different.
It's always like: "no, you did xyz because I said so!
And then any reply after is just removed. Honestly, I'll be surprised if this gets through without being butchered.
Or without a condescending comment written in blue.
And I give sooo much info on the board, you would think things would be better for me.Johnny, Aaron, Parrot, you know I've never really had much interaction with many of you guys on this board until now when it comes to calling somebody out for being flakey so this is interesting. Up until now most of you guys really haven't cared for what I said or even replied to my posts most of the time. What gives?
She waa fine when I saw her and looked like her pictures. Don't know about flab but she did look like she may have had a baby when I saw her.The dude claiming Sara is flabby needs to get his eyeballs checked ASAP.
The dude claiming Sara is flabby needs to get his eyeballs checked ASAP.I'm not the only one that claimed that. Read the previous reviews in this thread. Her body is loose. She's not fat, but there is no tone whatsoever. It's just saggy / flabby skin. If you think her body is nice, then you need to get your eyes checked.
Grossly overrated and hyped, and I probably know why. Like I said, she's decent, but I definitely regret seeing her based off the glowing reviews from people like you. Definitely bottom 25% of BP; nowhere near top percentile. It's mostly her personality and effort that makes up for it.
But hey, agree to disagree. If you like her, more power to you. I gave an honest review and if you don't like it, oh well, it's not going to change my mind.
I'm curious to see someone new try her out and give an unbiased review.
Game Cock Too
04-06-18, 21:13
I'm not the only one that claimed that. Read the previous reviews in this thread. Her body is loose. She's not fat, but there is no tone whatsoever. It's just saggy / flabby skin. If you think her body is nice, then you need to get your eyes checked.
Grossly overrated and hyped, and I probably know why. Like I said, she's decent, but I definitely regret seeing her based off the glowing reviews from people like you. Definitely bottom 25% of BP; nowhere near top percentile. It's mostly her personality and effort that makes up for it.
But hey, agree to disagree. If you like her, more power to you. I gave an honest review and if you don't like it, oh well, it's not going to change my mind.
I'm curious to see someone new try her out and give an unbiased review.The problem is. Nobody is probably wrong because "beauty is in the eye of the beholder". My buddies and I have similar discussions regarding all types of women on TV, actresses, singers, etc. A similar discussion began years ago regarding a provider named Iris, who put on some weight and some said she had a great body and others referred to her as a small BBW. The consensus regarding Sara seems to be that she aims to please, which is a big plus. Especially when there are so many clock-watchers, beetches, and scammers.
If 10 of us review the same provider, and 9 of us claim that she is a beeatch, I'm going to error on the side of the 9 who had bad experiences and vice versa. For example: I've spent time with Chanel. No complaints, but I haven't repeated because we didn't seem to click. She just seem preoccupied, probably conversing via text with one of you mf's. All we can do is report our experiences and move along, right?
The Parrot
04-07-18, 07:24
What are some BP alternatives?
We aren't going anywhere
http://usaadultclassifieds.info/classifieds
Just saying,
A2
IslandParty
04-07-18, 09:17
I'm not the only one that claimed that. Read the previous reviews in this thread. Her body is loose. She's not fat, but there is no tone whatsoever. It's just saggy / flabby skin. If you think her body is nice, then you need to get your eyes checked.
Grossly overrated and hyped, and I probably know why. Like I said, she's decent, but I definitely regret seeing her based off the glowing reviews from people like you. Definitely bottom 25% of BP; nowhere near top percentile. It's mostly her personality and effort that makes up for it.
But hey, agree to disagree. If you like her, more power to you. I gave an honest review and if you don't like it, oh well, it's not going to change my mind.
I'm curious to see someone new try her out and give an unbiased review.You most be the rare "lucky ones" who regularly get "quality " BP girls, Sara / Snow is easily better than 75% of the BP trash. The average BP girl has a pimp, were worn out junkies and they rush you. The "average" BP girl was trash, and there was a high probability of getting robbed too. Even the better BP girls became very inconsistent over time from either the drug usage or the very high volume of cum being pumped in their kitty cats. I only encountered just a rare few who were "gems" initially, then they were totally washed up real quick and their service was so bad you might as well jerk off to porn.
In fact, EVERY SINGLE UTR girl I played with, who became a BP "pro" became TOTALLY WORN OUT in a very short time, many experienced mongers have seen this as well.
Sara has been consistent and her donation is very reasonable too, she keeps her place clean compared to a lot of the BP trash, and I never felt rushed, you get multiple pops if you see her for an hour and she is a good conversationalist while you recharge for round 2. Most guys not complaining.
I'm not the only one that claimed that. Read the previous reviews in this thread. Her body is loose. She's not fat, but there is no tone whatsoever. It's just saggy / flabby skin. If you think her body is nice, then you need to get your eyes checked.
Grossly overrated and hyped, and I probably know why. Like I said, she's decent, but I definitely regret seeing her based off the glowing reviews from people like you. Definitely bottom 25% of BP; nowhere near top percentile. It's mostly her personality and effort that makes up for it.
But hey, agree to disagree. If you like her, more power to you. I gave an honest review and if you don't like it, oh well, it's not going to change my mind.
I'm curious to see someone new try her out and give an unbiased review.You claim Sara is flabby and has a gut. Where? Perhaps yours and my own definition of saggy and flabby are off kliter. I am posting a true picture of her body and will let the board decide if she has a gut and is flabby. Sara is the older lady on the left.
You claim Sara is flabby and has a gut. Where? Perhaps yours and my own definition of saggy and flabby are off kliter. I am posting a true picture of her body and will let the board decide if she has a gut and is flabby. Sara is the older lady on the left.She is a bit flabby but that's because of her age and she still looks good to me. I'm in my mid 20's and she is a MILF. I haven't done a MILF yet, going to contact her soon. But is her daughter still around?
You claim Sara is flabby and has a gut. Where? Perhaps yours and my own definition of saggy and flabby are off kliter. I am posting a true picture of her body and will let the board decide if she has a gut and is flabby. Sara is the older lady on the left.I don't know why you guys are getting so defensive over Sara. Are you her husband that she posts pics of all over her Instagram accounts? I never reviewed Sara because sometimes guys on here tend to riot from their bandwagon and I knew things would escalate just like this but here goes my review.
I saw Sara early in the year when she was first getting talked about here with her daughter. The hype was crazy and I fell into it so I went to go see her at her sketchy incall on JCB. She was really nice, pleasant, and aims to please. But appearance wise she looks much older in the face and her dark tan wasn't very attractive. I'm also a tits and ass guy but unfortunately she had none. Her skin is "saggy" like it kind of hangs off her bones. She has a bit of flabby tummy too. You can see it in the pics you posted. The first pic she is obviously trying to hide it. The second pic you can see it sticking out.
So we start with CBJ and it was kind of toothy. I had her get on top for CG because her hype was that she was a fantastic rider. It was good but also bony and uncomfortable. Like others have said, her service is ok and nothing to write home about, but her pleasant demeanor made up for it.
Chanel's hype was the same too. I also saw her once earlier in the year and did BBFS. Yeah it was fun and she's a nice girl, but she was also boney and had no tits either.
Either both these girls need to eat or they need to lay off the drugs. Anyways they're BP girls and about as much as I would expect from BP girls even though they may be considered the best of BP girls. Whatever, I just wish they hadn't been hyped up so much.
You most be the rare "lucky ones" who regularly get "quality " BP girls, Sara / Snow is easily better than 75% of the BP trash. The average BP girl has a pimp, were worn out junkies and they rush you. The "average" BP girl was trash, and there was a high probability of getting robbed too. Even the better BP girls became very inconsistent over time from either the drug usage or the very high volume of cum being pumped in their kitty cats. I only encountered just a rare few who were "gems" initially, then they were totally washed up real quick and their service was so bad you might as well jerk off to porn.
In fact, EVERY SINGLE UTR girl I played with, who became a BP "pro" became TOTALLY WORN OUT in a very short time, many experienced mongers have seen this as well.
Sara has been consistent and her donation is very reasonable too, she keeps her place clean compared to a lot of the BP trash, and I never felt rushed, you get multiple pops if you see her for an hour and she is a good conversationalist while you recharge for round 2. Most guys not complaining.It's just relative standards man. If you compare Sara to most of the garbage that was on BP, then I agree with you completely. But if you compare Sara to the higher priced agency girls with amazing service or even the girls you can grab off SA, then no Sara is not even in the same league with these younger and hotter girls. Sure they are more costly but like I said it's just relative standards man.
I'll go visit whoever when the mood strikes from BP girls to agency girls, from strippers to AMPs, or UTR sugar babies. Just depends on what I feel like and how much green I'm willing to burn at the time. It's all relative.
Alright have at it boys, throw your stones and burn me at the cross LOL.
Bunnery Sgt
04-08-18, 02:00
You claim Sara is flabby and has a gut. Where? Perhaps yours and my own definition of saggy and flabby are off kliter. I am posting a true picture of her body and will let the board decide if she has a gut and is flabby. Sara is the older lady on the left.
She's flabby and she has a gut. That isn't a deal breaker for me (her being white is) but since you asked.
EDIT: Upon further inspection she has the bingo wings and everything. She is the out of shape middle aged type and if she isn't middle aged that only makes it worse.
I guess this confirms the old adage, opinions are like ass holes, everyone has one.
I don't know why you guys are getting so defensive over Sara. Are you her black husband that she posts pics of all over her Instagram accounts? I never reviewed Sara because sometimes guys on here tend to riot from their bandwagon and I knew things would escalate just like this but here goes my review.
I saw Sara early in the year when she was first getting talked about here with her daughter. The hype was crazy and I fell into it so I went to go see her at her sketchy incall on JCB. She was really nice, pleasant, and aims to please. But appearance wise she looks much older in the face and her dark tan wasn't very attractive. I'm also a tits and ass guy but unfortunately she had none. Her skin is "saggy" like it kind of hangs off her bones. She has a bit of flabby tummy too. You can see it in the pics you posted. The first pic she is obviously trying to hide it. The second pic you can see it sticking out.
So we start with CBJ and it was kind of toothy. I had her get on top for CG because her hype was that she was a fantastic rider. It was good but also bony and uncomfortable. Like others have said, her service is ok and nothing to write home about, but her pleasant demeanor made up for it.
Chanel's hype was the same too. I also saw her once earlier in the year and did BBFS. Yeah it was fun and she's a nice girl, but she was also boney and had no tits either.
Either both these girls need to eat or they need to lay off the drugs. Anyways they're BP girls and about as much as I would expect from BP girls even though they may be considered the best of BP girls. Whatever, I just wish they hadn't been hyped up so much.
It's just relative standards man. If you compare Sara to most of the garbage that was on BP, then I agree with you completely. But if you compare Sara to the higher priced agency girls with amazing service or even the girls you can grab off SA, then no Sara is not even in the same league with these younger and hotter girls. Sure they are more costly but like I said it's just relative standards man.
I'll go visit whoever when the mood strikes from BP girls to agency girls, from strippers to AMPs, or UTR sugar babies. Just depends on what I feel like and how much green I'm willing to burn at the time. It's all relative.
Alright have at it boys, throw your stones and burn me at the cross LOL.
I don't know why you guys are getting so defensive over Sara. Are you her husband that she posts pics of all over her Instagram accounts? I never reviewed Sara because sometimes guys on here tend to riot from their bandwagon and I knew things would escalate just like this but here goes my review.
I saw Sara early in the year when she was first getting talked about here with her daughter. The hype was crazy and I fell into it so I went to go see her at her sketchy incall on JCB. She was really nice, pleasant, and aims to please. But appearance wise she looks much older in the face and her dark tan wasn't very attractive. I'm also a tits and ass guy but unfortunately she had none. Her skin is "saggy" like it kind of hangs off her bones. She has a bit of flabby tummy too. You can see it in the pics you posted. The first pic she is obviously trying to hide it. The second pic you can see it sticking out.
So we start with CBJ and it was kind of toothy. I had her get on top for CG because her hype was that she was a fantastic rider. It was good but also bony and uncomfortable. Like others have said, her service is ok and nothing to write home about, but her pleasant demeanor made up for it.
Chanel's hype was the same too. I also saw her once earlier in the year and did BBFS. Yeah it was fun and she's a nice girl, but she was also boney and had no tits either.
Either both these girls need to eat or they need to lay off the drugs. Anyways they're BP girls and about as much as I would expect from BP girls even though they may be considered the best of BP girls. Whatever, I just wish they hadn't been hyped up so much.
It's just relative standards man. If you compare Sara to most of the garbage that was on BP, then I agree with you completely. But if you compare Sara to the higher priced agency girls with amazing service or even the girls you can grab off SA, then no Sara is not even in the same league with these younger and hotter girls. Sure they are more costly but like I said it's just relative standards man.
I'll go visit whoever when the mood strikes from BP girls to agency girls, from strippers to AMPs, or UTR sugar babies. Just depends on what I feel like and how much green I'm willing to burn at the time. It's all relative.
Alright have at it boys, throw your stones and burn me at the cross LOL.I agree with you. People do tend to over hype girls on here and they do tend to get overly emotional about them even though this is a business. And you're spot on about BP girls. The independent agency are so much better in terms of quality and service even though they are definitely more pricey.
EastRendezvous
04-10-18, 09:19
Visiting this site in the past week or so has been somewhat of a headache. Idk if it is maybe the influx of new members to the site or what but everytime I try to visit the site I get an error message. Navigating between pages is like watching paint dry and I can literally get up and go pee waiting on EVERY page to load. Simple getting the access to make this post has been a hassle. Like I said I assume its all the new visitors to the site that is probably slowing it down and I know we don't have to pay for this I'm just hoping whoever runs things here knows it might be time to look into new servers or something.
Johnny Mapalo
04-10-18, 11:31
Where everything on the internet is censored. This is ridiculous. Since this backpage / craiglist removal all these other escort and review sites are doing the same. I see the eccie review site is no more and TER is not allowed in America. WTF!! What country are we in? This is getting more ridiculous by the day. Why are review sites being banned in America? What does that have to do with escort sites? Review sites are not posting sex with minors, only consenting adults. Why the hell did they go offline or block access in America. Smh.
Also, this site seems to be going belly up too. I keep getting these "database error" messages everything I come to this site. What's up with that? Seems like everyone is affected by this new news, including this site. Shit. Furthermore, I'm glad backpage and craigslist has closed down, but I doubt it will be for long. Now these bum ass broads can could look for a real job and stop trying to rip guys off with their sorry ass services on backpage and craigslist. You guys who think that these chics will now hit the streets are delusional.
These backpage 100 qv overpriced chics are too proud to lower themselves and their rates and work the streets. Funny thing is, I have been flooded with anonymous text messages from chics who I text like 2 weeks prior. All of a sudden these chics are texting me out of the blue asking if I want to hook up. The majority of them are now doing "outcall only" (cause they lost their room. LOL) and they're still on that $100 qv nonsense.
Seems like the backpage / craigslist shake down still hasn't cured their delusional brains. I even had one quote me $250 outcall only. LOL. When I tell them that I can't host, they all start offering car play action. LOL. The funny thing is, they still want the $100 qv and $250 for car play. Pfft. Ok. Dudes, these backpage chics are not migrating to the streets. Don't get your hopes up. It's only the crackheads and substance abusers who have to head out to the streets.
The other overpriced skanks are now doing outcalls only and car play only. Starve these hoes out!! Offer them no more than $50 bucks. Make them feel the pinch. That's what they get for trying to overcharge for their sorry ass services. Unfortunately though, I think this will only make dudes get desperate and pay these $100 qv car date rates. I already saw one desperate dude on escortbabylon review site pay a chic $140 qv for car play. LOL. You dudes start paying that, it will only get worse.
And the reason backpage is gone is not because the government cares about child sex trade or any of that other nonsense. Its because that backpage adult section was a million dollar business and I don't think any taxes were being paid on the 127 million or so that the owners of backpage made off of adult ads alone last year. I don't think the government can regulate or tax income made over the internet. I think big brother is soon going to find a way to start taxing income on the internet. This is just the beginning.
Stick to your guns fellas. Low ball the hell out of these chics and run their asses out of town!! They deserve everything that's coming to them.
Visiting this site in the past week or so has been somewhat of a headache. Idk if it is maybe the influx of new members to the site or what but everytime I try to visit the site I get an error message. Navigating between pages is like watching paint dry and I can literally get up and go pee waiting on EVERY page to load. Simple getting the access to make this post has been a hassle. Like I said I assume its all the new visitors to the site that is probably slowing it down and I know we don't have to pay for this I'm just hoping whoever runs things here knows it might be time to look into new servers or something.I've been getting the same error messages as well. I have to keep refreshing the page.
KingSlayer22
04-10-18, 12:21
Since the BP shutdown there have been a lot of newbies that are obviously flocking over to the forum and to most of you welcome, make some posts, review some girls, read current forums posts, and do some research.
For the few of you that want to send me PM like I'm a BP girl being demanding and "Telling me what phone numbers I'm going to give you or party you demand to be invited to you" just entered the ignore zone. Learn some manners and realize you need to be a trusted member to get access to the UTR's, Gems, and party invites. Random girls is fine but I can tell you my ignore list has grown faster this week than ever. Too late for the already ignored to see this, its for the rest of you.
StnmtnHunter
05-21-18, 12:27
How are you guys doing? It's been tough for me. I've been trying to shoot hail mary's thru tagged, skout, and pof. No luck. I wasn't smart enough to get a collection of UTR's thinking BP would be there forever LOL. Just wanted to see if I could get some tips and strategies from you guys on how to navigate on these social media sites, dating apps, and where do the SW's be at?
Ok, so I been in and out of the hobby due to how BP went downhill big time. I decided to try to see if I can knock a few porn stars off my bucket list. I figured to try my hand at Roxi Red. You can google her name and see who she is. She do see clients. In Minnesota. I emailed her to see if she will be coming to Atlanta. She emailed me back, I couldn't believe it. This is that BS. She said sure, if you can pay for flight / hotel and transportation plus MEETnGREET start at 500. I had to read it twice. Hell no, I am not about to do any of that except the meetngreet. If I have to pay for flight / hotel and transportation, I am with you from check in to check out, and taking you back to the airport. I was kinda shocked, but also somewhat a reality check for me. Only way I would do all that for a semi-porn star, if I win Mega millions or Powerball this week! In the words of Coach Mike Singletary "CAN'T DO IT!
Tys.
We get the board back and these dudes want to talk about HIV. What the F.
We get the board back and these dudes want to talk about HIV. What the F.Amen to that.
TheJasonator
05-25-18, 15:37
Amen to that.I know right, I think they need to find a new hobby.
Why are you so scared to release my posts? A fuckstick flames me, against forum rules and you deny me the right to respond? You violated my rights under YOUR rules. I pity your stupid ass.
Respond on the fight thread fuckstick and like this post it will go through.
A2
We get the board back and these dudes want to talk about HIV. What the F.I honestly didn't care to respond too much to what those guys were talking about until that one poster told those far fetched odds. That may be the stupidest thing I've read on here in 10 years I've been on here.
Why are you so scared to release my posts? A fuckstick flames me, against forum rules and you deny me the right to respond? You violated my rights under YOUR rules. I pity your stupid ass.
Respond on the fight thread fuckstick and like this post it will go through.
A2And yet you allowed jackweed to flame me on the massage parlor thread? Follow your own rules, fuckstick!
Is English not your primary language or are you just an idiot? Do you not know what the words "report post" mean?
Click the button, report the post, and I'll look at it. Unlike you we accept that we aren't perfect which is why reason every post has a report post button on it.
Keep the cards and letters coming,
A2
And yet you allowed jackweed to flame me on the massage parlor thread? Follow your own rules, fuckstick!
Is English not your primary language or are you just an idiot? Do you not know what the words "report post" mean?
Click the button, report the post, and I'll look at it. Unlike you we accept that we aren't perfect which is why reason every post has a report post button on it.
Keep the cards and letters coming,
A2You keep reiterating my point that you don't follow your own rules but scrutinize my every word as well of those of several others, yet let some jackweeds run rampant. Click the Report Post button? Really? My post, that you scrutinized so carefully, was a reply to jackweed flaming me. Read again: The posts were RIGHT NEXT TO EACH OTHER, one a reply to the other, yet you only focused on mine, not what I wrote or the reason I wrote it, and certainly not what jackweed wrote.
We expect the admin to be just that, a fuckin' admin. If you can't do your job properly and FAIRLY, perhaps there's an opening as a school crossing guard somewhere.
This is you being stupid and uniformed again. I don't see the forum as you see it. I use a tool that was created by our developers which shows me JUST the posts needing moderation, and they are presented to me in chronological order forum wide. So unless you posted your stupid response within milliseconds of him posting his then no, on my screen it wasn't associated with his post at all. It was probably hours later and hundreds of posts after his. That assumes he is on moderation, if he's not, then nobody here ever saw that post. These "jackweeds" you speak of are most likely not moderated, remember how much easier it was for you to troll people before enough of them reported your bullshit and got you placed on permanent moderation? The people who have your panties in a wad are most likely not moderated.
You have an attitude of entitlement and think that you can do whatever you feel like doing on this forum. Hence you speaking for "we" and telling me what you think my job is. Do you sign my paycheck? I scrutinize your posts because due to your history of argumentative behavior you are, and will always be on moderation. What I expect you to do is follow the TOS you agreed to when you joined this site.
So for the fucking 1000th time, learn to use the report post button. I know you wont, because you're mostly here to do this and I have found over time that if I can keep you pissed off and engaged fighting with me you tend to troll the other members less often.
A2
The Parrot
05-26-18, 17:55
You keep reiterating my point that you don't follow your own rules but scrutinize my every word as well of those of several others, yet let some jackweeds run rampant. Click the Report Post button? Really? My post, that you scrutinized so carefully, was a reply to jackweed flaming me. Read again: The posts were RIGHT NEXT TO EACH OTHER, one a reply to the other, yet you only focused on mine, not what I wrote or the reason I wrote it, and certainly not what jackweed wrote.
We expect the admin to be just that, a fuckin' admin. If you can't do your job properly and FAIRLY, perhaps there's an opening as a school crossing guard somewhere.
This is you being stupid and uniformed again. I don't see the forum as you see it. I use a tool that was created by our developers which shows me JUST the posts needing moderation, and they are presented to me in chronological order forum wide. So unless you posted your stupid response within milliseconds of him posting his then no, on my screen it wasn't associated with his post at all. It was probably hours later and hundreds of posts after his. That assumes he is on moderation, if he's not, then nobody here ever saw that post. These "jackweeds" you speak of are most likely not moderated, remember how much easier it was for you to troll people before enough of them reported your bullshit and got you placed on permanent moderation? The people who have your panties in a wad are most likely not moderated.
You have an attitude of entitlement and think that you can do whatever you feel like doing on this forum. Hence you speaking for "we" and telling me what you think my job is. Do you sign my paycheck? I scrutinize your posts because due to your history of argumentative behavior you are, and will always be on moderation. What I expect you to do is follow the TOS you agreed to when you joined this site.
So for the fucking 1000th time, learn to use the report post button. I know you wont, because you're mostly here to do this and I have found over time that if I can keep you pissed off and engaged fighting with me you tend to troll the other members less often.
A2Don't waste you time arguing with him night, he does the same thing to me and a handful of select posters. There's one guy in particular who can speak about race, or anything argumentative; yet he never has issues. There is a reason for that, so don't waste. Too much time on him. He will even manipulate your posts and change the wording completely, it's. Not worth it with him.
Thank you for making my point. You are exactly right, there are a handful of guys who think they own this site and can post whatever they want. I don't know which "one guy" you're talking about, but again, I'm sure he's not moderated and I never see his posts. And again, use the report post button and if he is violating the TOS then I will take action.
It happened exactly the same with you. You used to be unmoderated, people reported your bullshit, you caught enough flags that you were put back on moderation and now you have a leash.
For both of you this is a result of the choices you make.
A2
You keep reiterating my point that you don't follow your own rules but scrutinize my every word as well of those of several others, yet let some jackweeds run rampant. Click the Report Post button? Really? My post, that you scrutinized so carefully, was a reply to jackweed flaming me. Read again: The posts were RIGHT NEXT TO EACH OTHER, one a reply to the other, yet you only focused on mine, not what I wrote or the reason I wrote it, and certainly not what jackweed wrote.
We expect the admin to be just that, a fuckin' admin. If you can't do your job properly and FAIRLY, perhaps there's an opening as a school crossing guard somewhere.
This is you being stupid and uniformed again. I don't see the forum as you see it. I use a tool that was created by our developers which shows me JUST the posts needing moderation, and they are presented to me in chronological order forum wide. So unless you posted your stupid response within milliseconds of him posting his then no, on my screen it wasn't associated with his post at all. It was probably hours later and hundreds of posts after his. That assumes he is on moderation, if he's not, then nobody here ever saw that post. These "jackweeds" you speak of are most likely not moderated, remember how much easier it was for you to troll people before enough of them reported your bullshit and got you placed on permanent moderation? The people who have your panties in a wad are most likely not moderated.
You have an attitude of entitlement and think that you can do whatever you feel like doing on this forum. Hence you speaking for "we" and telling me what you think my job is. Do you sign my paycheck? I scrutinize your posts because due to your history of argumentative behavior you are, and will always be on moderation. What I expect you to do is follow the TOS you agreed to when you joined this site.
So for the fucking 1000th time, learn to use the report post button. I know you wont, because you're mostly here to do this and I have found over time that if I can keep you pissed off and engaged fighting with me you tend to troll the other members less often.
A2Night, I agree with you 100%.
I'm sure this comment will never post because I was put back on moderation 4 months ago for telling some jackass that a provider is not racist, but it seems that that issue is "too inflamitory" for our king admin. BS.
And I'm sure you are wrong because here it is.
Maybe you guys will figure out that posting the stupid shit on the stupid shit thread doesn't cause you any grief.
You were one of the guys that instigated that massive fight that got the GB forum closed down. So no, you didn't just "tell some guy that a provider isn't a racist."
A2
Big Comanche
05-27-18, 05:39
Wow. I'm not saying I am better than anyone else, but I have a bunch of posts and reviews. I don't even have so much as a PM from an admin telling me I was out of line.
Am I doing it wrong?
The Parrot
05-27-18, 06:29
Wow. I'm not saying I am better than anyone else, but I have a bunch of posts and reviews. I don't even have so much as a PM from an admin telling me I was out of line.
Am I doing it wrong?Those in charge pick and choose who they target and respect. Since the board has returned, three if my posts have been altered or blocked from being posted. Certain posts I make just won't show up, because it doesn't make it past their moderation checks. This message probaby won't make it through either.
Do you mean this one won't show up like the last one you said wouldn't show up?
See what he says about "I don't have so much as a PM from the Admin telling me I was out of line?" The VAST majority of our members can say this. Then there is the 3% like you and Niteluvr who are constantly sniping at guys and constantly complaining about the mean admin.
The users we "pick" to moderate are the ones that are constantly out of line. There's a pattern here if you can see it. You act like an asshole and I delete your posts. It's pretty simple.
A2
Wow. I'm not saying I am better than anyone else, but I have a bunch of posts and reviews. I don't even have so much as a PM from an admin telling me I was out of line.
Am I doing it wrong?I'm just going to say it depends on who you ask LOL.
LOL. I thought this would be the last area people would go to since the site was down for a month. Like seriously if the site shutdown who do people complain too? Themselves? Relax everyone and get back to posting decent info, good and bad.
You're doing it right, you're being appreciative of the forum, you're being thankful of A2's hard work (especially these days where he had to travel continents so we can keep our sharing going) you're a civilized civilian LOL. Good job and thanks A2 for bringing the forum back up although wish you didn't bring some of the members with it LOL.
Big Comanche
05-29-18, 07:14
WTF Eroticmonkey is now charging to read reviews?
You're doing it right, you're being appreciative of the forum, you're being thankful of A2's hard work (especially these days where he had to travel continents so we can keep our sharing going) you're a civilized civilian LOL. Good job and thanks A2 for bringing the forum back up although wish you didn't bring some of the members with it LOL.I am very appreciative of A2's hard work, I wouldn't want nor could do what he does for this forum. We all have good days and bad days and I feel that he may have been having a bad day when I earned my "lifetime moderation". 99% of my posts have been helpful to the the forum but when a regular member spouts off some BS I couldn't let it go. I'm sure the PM I sent A2 is what earned me the "Lifetime" title but I apologized for that. I agree with the other poster that this is not what we should be talking about after the resurrection of the site, but I didn't want others and A2 think that we don't appreciate his hard work even if we don't agree with some actions. Thanks.
WTF Eroticmonkey is now charging to read reviews?Yeah I saw that too, greedy bastards.
Southside Stan
05-29-18, 10:34
Yeah I saw that too, greedy bastards.Pricey too!
I am very appreciative of A2's hard work, I wouldn't want nor could do what he does for this forum. We all have good days and bad days and I feel that he may have been having a bad day when I earned my "lifetime moderation". 99% of my posts have been helpful to the the forum but when a regular member spouts off some BS I couldn't let it go. I'm sure the PM I sent A2 is what earned me the "Lifetime" title but I apologized for that. I agree with the other poster that this is not what we should be talking about after the resurrection of the site, but I didn't want others and A2 think that we don't appreciate his hard work even if we don't agree with some actions. Thanks.I know the two idiots that have been spouting off will say I am but I'm not. For two fucking years I tried to work with NiteLovr and he spit in my fucking face. I even went so far as to make him his own PERSONAL thread in order to flame guys but nope, still kept spouting whatever trolling bullshit he wanted wherever he felt like it. I told him, man you got to work with me of I have to put you back on moderation, nope, puked more bullshit on the review threads.
Now I'm a Nazi, two god damned years I tried to get him to stop review fucking guys posts on this forum, his answer at all steps was fuck you I'll do whatever the fuck I want because I am the god of mongers.
That other knucklehead couldn't tell the truth if you asked him if it was night or day. Every time he posts he makes my point.
In your case what the hell do I do? 50 of you guys were relentlessly flaming each other and it was headed to violence. When I stepped in, well you know what you did. What choice do I have? How do I let somebody post unmoderated after that?
This isn't me complaining, I have a great job and I really enjoy it. The money is great and the freedom is like nothing I've ever heard of before. But it's a job and never personal. When somebody fucks up mostly I'm just looking for the guy who puts his hand up and says, "yeah, I fucked up, sorry my bad. " I document it, throw the flag, and move like nothing happened. But the guys who charge the mound? No options on that one, just like Nolan I got to put an end to it or everybody will try it.
A2.
Don't waste you time arguing with him night, he does the same thing to me and a handful of select posters. There's one guy in particular who can speak about race, or anything argumentative; yet he never has issues. There is a reason for that, so don't waste. Too much time on him. He will even manipulate your posts and change the wording completely, it's. Not worth it with him.
Absolutely correct, Parrot. Any fool with admin rights can act tough and biased behind the scenes. If this were a level playing field, however, things would be much different!
Night, I agree with you 100%.
I'm sure this comment will never post because I was put back on moderation 4 months ago for telling some jackass that a provider is not racist, but it seems that that issue is "too inflamitory" for our king admin. BS.
Couldn't agree more. A2 is highly biased towards certain people, yet knowingly lets others run rampant. Even if we were to report a post, he wouldn't do a damn thing. Personally, I keep a record of all of my posts, PMs, replies to posts, etc, and a well-documented history of A2's discriminatory practices. Suggest you and others do the same. This shit has gotten out of hand.
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Hungry Clif
05-31-18, 13:12
Guys, Please, A2 is the manager and moderator of a FREE forum about PUSSY and the Dicks that want to fill them. Assuming he IS biased, it is his forum to run. If YOU want to run one differently, then by all means, please go and set one up so you can run it as YOU see fit. This site is free, we don't pay to use it. Enjoy what you want, ignore the rest and go use some girl for your pleasures.
Cliff.
Guys, Please, A2 is the manager and moderator of a FREE forum about PUSSY and the Dicks that want to fill them. Assuming he IS biased, it is his forum to run. If YOU want to run one differently, then by all means, please go and set one up so you can run it as YOU see fit. This site is free, we don't pay to use it. Enjoy what you want, ignore the rest and go use some girl for your pleasures.
Cliff.Nuff said, on to the next pussy.
Wet Dreams, PW.
Nuff said, on to the next pussy.
Wet Dreams, PW.I was not referring to guys here, I was talking about vagina pussies!
Wet Dreams, PW.
The Parrot
06-01-18, 04:02
I know the two idiots that have been spouting off will say I am but I'm not. For two fucking years I tried to work with NiteLovr and he spit in my fucking face. I even went so far as to make him his own PERSONAL thread in order to flame guys but nope, still kept spouting whatever trolling bullshit he wanted wherever he felt like it. I told him, man you got to work with me of I have to put you back on moderation, nope, puked more bullshit on the review threads.
Now I'm a Nazi, two god damned years I tried to get him to stop review fucking guys posts on this forum, his answer at all steps was fuck you I'll do whatever the fuck I want because I am the god of mongers.
That other knucklehead couldn't tell the truth if you asked him if it was night or day. Every time he posts he makes my point.
In your case what the hell do I do? 50 of you guys were relentlessly flaming each other and it was headed to violence. When I stepped in, well you know what you did. What choice do I have? How do I let somebody post unmoderated after that?
This isn't me complaining, I have a great job and I really enjoy it. The money is great and the freedom is like nothing I've ever heard of before. But it's a job and never personal. When somebody fucks up mostly I'm just looking for the guy who puts his hand up and says, "yeah, I fucked up, sorry my bad. " I document it, throw the flag, and move like nothing happened. But the guys who charge the mound? No options on that one, just like Nolan I got to put an end to it or everybody will try it.
A2.Other knucklehead won't tell the truth if you ask him? Such weak arguments as usual. Bland blanket statements, he should just admit he doesn't like me.
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I told you I'm deleting anything you write about "other posters" until you have reported them or identified them.
I neither like you nor dislike you, I don't know you. I appreciate "The Parrot" for the job security it provides but as to the person behind the troll I can't say anything about because I don't know him or her.
A2
Just curious why quite a few men act like girly men and report to their favorite ladies about negative reviews being written about them on this board. Some of these dudes are worse than women in the way they act, just my humble opinion.
KingSlayer22
06-07-18, 20:21
Just curious why quite a few men act like girly men and report to their favorite ladies about negative reviews being written about them on this board. Some of these dudes are worse than women in the way they act, just my humble opinion.I think its funny I hear so many false things about people by over reacting drama kings like Maddys on drugs, Chanel has a pimp, GennieLynn is setting people up to be robbed. I see a lot pf people jump to some pretty wild conclusions based on nothing. Wished people could just get out and enjoy the hobby and leave the drama for your mama.
I think its funny I hear so many false things about people by over reacting drama kings like Maddys on drugs, Chanel has a pimp, GennieLynn is setting people up to be robbed. I see a lot pf people jump to some pretty wild conclusions based on nothing. Wished people could just get out and enjoy the hobby and leave the drama for your mama.I apologize for my drama and bow down to the King. Yes I said Maddy seemed like she was on drugs. I said that because I called her one time and she seemed out of it but who knows and who cares.
KingSlayer22
06-09-18, 07:59
There have been several of you that have not been to parties before that requested to come, realize those of us that do it get perks with the girls but mostly we do it for the fun of it. There is a lot of juggling that goes into planning, screening, and messaging folks. If you are one the guys that say I'm in and want the experience realize its a short list fellas. If you change your mind or can't make it take the 30 secs to say so, shit happens I cancel thimgs too. I get the reason why some of you can't reach girls either probably for the same reason, you get blocked for being a flake.
There have been several of you that have not been to parties before that requested to come, realize those of us that do it get perks with the girls but mostly we do it for the fun of it. There is a lot of juggling that goes into planning, screening, and messaging folks. If you are one the guys that say I'm in and want the experience realize its a short list fellas. If you change your mind or can't make it take the 30 secs to say so, shit happens I cancel thimgs too. I get the reason why some of you can't reach girls either probably for the same reason, you get blocked for being a flake.I agree be an adult and let people know if you are not going to make it.
I apologize for my drama and bow down to the King. Yes I said Maddy seemed like she was on drugs. I said that because I called her one time and she seemed out of it but who knows and who cares.Just my humble opinion, I would be very wary of accusing anyone of being on drugs without actually seeing them in the act or seeing physical evidence such as needle marks etc. I have never met Maddy but she could have been suffering from morning sickness, it can occur at any time of the day.
GirdedLoins
06-10-18, 11:36
There have been several of you that have not been to parties before that requested to come, realize those of us that do it get perks with the girls but mostly we do it for the fun of it. There is a lot of juggling that goes into planning, screening, and messaging folks. If you are one the guys that say I'm in and want the experience realize its a short list fellas. If you change your mind or can't make it take the 30 secs to say so, shit happens I cancel thimgs too. I get the reason why some of you can't reach girls either probably for the same reason, you get blocked for being a flake.That only sounds fair to me.
That only sounds fair to me.Tru that. I straight up say either I can or can't make it.
The Parrot
06-10-18, 19:53
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.networkworld.com/article/3154091/internet/the-loss-of-net-neutrality-say-goodbye-to-a-free-and-open-internet.html&ved=2ahUKEwjj9-ORpcrbAhUN8YMKHe_DCgUQFjAAegQIABAB&usg=AOvVaw1Lmr8jNS_ZKYmfuVH0-3vO
What the hell is going on with all these new bills / laws to govern the internet??
The battle for net neutrality has been lost, and we saw the damage FOSTA caused.
Where will we go from here? What is the date of the internet as we know it??
Citizen One
06-11-18, 09:34
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.networkworld.com/article/3154091/internet/the-loss-of-net-neutrality-say-goodbye-to-a-free-and-open-internet.html&ved=2ahUKEwjj9-ORpcrbAhUN8YMKHe_DCgUQFjAAegQIABAB&usg=AOvVaw1Lmr8jNS_ZKYmfuVH0-3vO
What the hell is going on with all these new bills / laws to govern the internet??
The battle for net neutrality has been lost, and we saw the damage FOSTA caused.
Where will we go from here? What is the date of the internet as we know it??From what I've read, it's probably no worse than that Y2 K scare many years ago.
KingSlayer22
06-12-18, 08:32
Some people crack me up sayimg they made a great find just cause they chatted an SA page or heard about someone from so and so and claim to be the one that found them. When you take the time to bring a girl, especially a non pro like KIki or Alexis out in the forum to share and promote with select gentlemen, that's giving back, that's making a great find. Same type people that take credit for other peoples effort pretend to be promoting parties, prod me for the how it's done and make posts but never follow through and say oh I throw parties. Be a lurker or get out there and find something yourself, most people know whos who.
I'm not saying that it was caused by the repeal of net neutrality, but I could not access this site until I used a vpn. Without the vpn every time I attempted to reach the page I got a message that I had no internet acess. Even when I could reach other sites fine!
I'm not saying that it was caused by the repeal of net neutrality, but I could not access this site until I used a vpn. Without the vpn every time I attempted to reach the page I got a message that I had no internet acess. Even when I could reach other sites fine!Yep something is going on. I noticed that too.
Yep something is going on. I noticed that too.Yep it was happening for a short time today but I can get back on the site now from my wifi at home. Some people may be starting to do it or are just testing it out to see if they can censor. Something was definitely in effect for a short time earlier today.
Snoopy6969
06-13-18, 16:12
Yep it was happening for a short time today but I can get back on the site now from my wifi at home. Some people may be starting to do it or are just testing it out to see if they can censor. Something was definitely in effect for a short time earlier today.Yes I experienced the same thing for 2 days until I use vpn in canada or other countries to get here. This is tyranny.
Yes I experienced the same thing for 2 days until I use vpn in canada or other countries to get here. This is tyranny.Hopefully it was just experimental.
EastRendezvous
06-13-18, 20:26
Yes I experienced the same thing for 2 days until I use vpn in canada or other countries to get here. This is tyranny.This is the type of crap that happens when people expect and demand that government fix their problems. Congratulations.
This is the type of crap that happens when people expect and demand that government fix their problems. Congratulations.Well they can block sites with anybody using wifi but they can't block when using data off your smartphone, tablet, or whatever. I bet they won't do shit because it is too risky when it comes to losing the dough but if it happened I bet Apple, Samsung, Verizon, AT&T, etc. Would make a lot more money for obvious reasons.
Well they can block sites with anybody using wifi but they can't block when using data off your smartphone, tablet, or whatever. I bet they won't do shit because it is too risky when it comes to losing the dough but if it happened I bet Apple, Samsung, Verizon, AT&T, etc. Would make a lot more money for obvious reasons.Don't forget companies that offer VPN! My connection is working like normal over WiFi today as well! I'm happy about that lifetime vpn deal I got for like $29 last year. I just need to renew it every 10 years (as long as the company is around and I remember my password)!
Airmantroy
06-14-18, 11:52
Don't forget companies that offer VPN! My connection is working like normal over WiFi today as well! I'm happy about that lifetime vpn deal I got for like $29 last year. I just need to renew it every 10 years (as long as the company is around and I remember my password)!Your wifi is JUST a wireless connection to the internet. They can't ONLY block wifi, they have to block your entire connection to a specific web address. I had the same issues getting on yesterday, from somewhere around 1 pm till around 4:30 pm. It worked when I got back on around 8 pm with no problem. I was using Commiecast both instances with a wired connection and a wireless (wifi) connection, my guess is it was the website, not some government conspiracy or test.
Head Hunting
06-14-18, 13:59
This is the type of crap that happens when people expect and demand that government fix their problems. Congratulations.No. This is what happens when you elect crazy Republicans.
KingSlayer22
06-14-18, 17:43
No. This is what happens when you elect crazy Republicans.I'm one of those but I'm not part of the trumpster fire.
EastRendezvous
06-14-18, 19:08
No. This is what happens when you elect crazy Republicans.Republicans, Democrats, Labour Party, Conservatives, Communists, Socialists and ALL the rest of them equally represent the exact same problem. People are so stupid and pathetic they actually think there's a difference and they actually believe in these political groups and ideologies more than they believe in themselves and their own abilities. Keep up the bi-partisan rhetoric though, it's doing a great job helping them gain more power and control.
Your wifi is JUST a wireless connection to the internet. They can't ONLY block wifi, they have to block your entire connection to a specific web address. I had the same issues getting on yesterday, from somewhere around 1 pm till around 4:30 pm. It worked when I got back on around 8 pm with no problem. I was using Commiecast both instances with a wired connection and a wireless (wifi) connection, my guess is it was the website, not some government conspiracy or test.No no, it is not that hard to censor web sites on a wifi connection as you may think it is. Here's an example for you. If a web site has the word sex in it, whether it's a site like this or a sex education web site or even a health web site, it can be censored from a service provider who has wifi. It does not have to be a specific web address. Never was like that. Considering that I couldn't get on here yesterday for a while using my asus chromebook but could when using my smartphone that was not connected to wifi and then trying to get on here on my asus chromebook again and not being able to get on here but being able to get on other sites like other people are saying happened I'm sure they were testing the waters if they were to censor in the future. Also been told by other people that they tried to get on other sites too yesterday and got the same thing for a while. I have comcast too so comcast was testing out censorship yesterday. Probably making sure it works in the event the government does go overboard and enforces something which in the event Comcast would sue for losing customers if this did really become reality. However, let's say you're right and it was something with this web site yesterday? I will ask now. A2, if you do see this, was something going on with the web site yesterday?
Your wifi is JUST a wireless connection to the internet. They can't ONLY block wifi, they have to block your entire connection to a specific web address. I had the same issues getting on yesterday, from somewhere around 1 pm till around 4:30 pm. It worked when I got back on around 8 pm with no problem. I was using Commiecast both instances with a wired connection and a wireless (wifi) connection, my guess is it was the website, not some government conspiracy or test.You can get onto some sites on wifi that could have content that may get blocked. One site being youtube. While you may be able to watch a video on youtube of a cartoon, you may or may not be able to watch a video of somebody pretending they are jacking off or something like that. That's how sophisticated censoring is when it comes to Wifi. If a web site has content and no videos, it can easily be censored or not depending on wording. A site like Youtube is censored based on description of the videos if people write a description of the video. LOL.
Airmantroy
06-14-18, 21:26
You can get onto some sites on wifi that could have content that may get blocked. One site being youtube. While you may be able to watch a video on youtube of a cartoon, you may or may not be able to watch a video of somebody pretending they are jacking off or something like that. That's how sophisticated censoring is when it comes to Wifi. If a web site has content and no videos, it can easily be censored or not depending on wording. A site like Youtube is censored based on description of the videos if people write a description of the video. LOL.I get what you're saying, but simply using wifi or not it is not capable for a ISP to block a site vs. Blocking it thru a wired connection. NOW, if you are using a VPN (virtual private network) you may be able to access a site simply by using a server from another country. TER for example is blocked to US based connections. However you can access the site from a server based in Spain or France with no problem (they removed the US reviews, so it's basically useless) If you are using "free" wifi at say Starbucks, THEY can block sites using THEIR wireless router, but that's got nothing to do with the government. I was using the site via wireless at my house on my laptop and via my desktop at work (wired) and during the time I drove home from work things were working again normally. I have stayed in hotels a few years ago that blocked access to Craigslist and BP on my laptop, but using my data connection on my phone, I was able to access both sites with no problem. Needless to say I checked out and spent my money elsewhere for the duration of my stay.
You can get onto some sites on wifi that could have content that may get blocked. One site being youtube. While you may be able to watch a video on youtube of a cartoon, you may or may not be able to watch a video of somebody pretending they are jacking off or something like that. That's how sophisticated censoring is when it comes to Wifi. If a web site has content and no videos, it can easily be censored or not depending on wording. A site like Youtube is censored based on description of the videos if people write a description of the video. LOL.But I'm not 100% sure you know what wifi is. What you're talking about is an ISP or User blocking traffic based on content. Wifi is simply the technology that sends the signal the last step. It wouldn't happen there. You might be talking about public wifi like at Starbucks but if they are blocking content it wouldn't matter if you are wired or wireless.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DkuLaXir3Q
To make it easy, wifi simply refers to the last step in the delivery process of the content you have requested from a server that allows you to connect to an access point without a cable, nothing more.
I get what you're saying, but simply using wifi or not it is not capable for a ISP to block a site vs. Blocking it thru a wired connection. NOW, if you are using a VPN (virtual private network) you may be able to access a site simply by using a server from another country. TER for example is blocked to US based connections. However you can access the site from a server based in Spain or France with no problem (they removed the US reviews, so it's basically useless) If you are using "free" wifi at say Starbucks, THEY can block sites using THEIR wireless router, but that's got nothing to do with the government. I was using the site via wireless at my house on my laptop and via my desktop at work (wired) and during the time I drove home from work things were working again normally. I have stayed in hotels a few years ago that blocked access to Craigslist and BP on my laptop, but using my data connection on my phone, I was able to access both sites with no problem. Needless to say I checked out and spent my money elsewhere for the duration of my stay.
But I'm not 100% sure you know what wifi is. What you're talking about is an ISP or User blocking traffic based on content. Wifi is simply the technology that sends the signal the last step. It wouldn't happen there. You might be talking about public wifi like at Starbucks but if they are blocking content it wouldn't matter if you are wired or wireless.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DkuLaXir3Q
To make it easy, wifi simply refers to the last step in the delivery process of the content you have requested from a server that allows you to connect to an access point without a cable, nothing more.When I'm at home on my wifi from my cable provider which is Comcast on my computer like my Asus Chromebook, Dell, Macbook, etc. I can access any web site I want just need to be on my cable provider's wifi all the time like everybody else. A2 you are correct that I was making a reference to public wifi. If you are on wifi at Starbucks or somewhere public they may have a thing like some ISP or user data where they can censor certain web sites based on wording of the web site. Now web sites that are into videos like Youtube can still be accessed but it depends on if you can watch those videos or not based on their description. What we seemed to be experiencing the other day was censorship that was being tested as net neutrality is no more here. When I couldn't get on this site because it told me my internet was down but could access other web sites on my chromebook while on my wifi I knew something was up. The thing is that anybody who uses a PC, laptop, etc. Is going to be a victim of censoring if they were to go that far with censorship. When it comes to having a phone plan with a smartphone with somebody like AT&T it is different. You don't have to be connected to any wifi on your smartphone while on a plan to use the internet and can go to any web site you want as long as you have your wifi turned off. If the government becomes that stupid with censoring, everybody will be running to get a smartphone, tablet, or some computer that can be a phone because they would be able to surf anywhere on the web without using wifi as long as they had a plan with somebody like AT&T or Verizon. I think they've already fucked up again with letting AT&T and Time Warner merge. Remember AOL and Time Warner merging? People never learn.
Bigsqueeze
06-15-18, 08:03
I had enrolled in a VPN service, then found the Opera web browser includes a VPN feature (free), so I cancelled the previous service, now use Opera and see no difference in sites I can access. I do not think that Opera feature exists on the iPhone app.
On blocking service: my dentist's office blocks USAG, so that makes it suck even more going to the dentist.
When I'm at home on my wifi from my cable provider which is Comcast on my computer like my Asus Chromebook, Dell, Macbook, etc. I can access any web site I want just need to be on my cable provider's wifi all the time like everybody else. A2 you are correct that I was making a reference to public wifi. If you are on wifi at Starbucks or somewhere public they may have a thing like some ISP or user data where they can censor certain web sites based on wording of the web site. Now web sites that are into videos like Youtube can still be accessed but it depends on if you can watch those videos or not based on their description. What we seemed to be experiencing the other day was censorship that was being tested as net neutrality is no more here. When I couldn't get on this site because it told me my internet was down but could access other web sites on my chromebook while on my wifi I knew something was up. The thing is that anybody who uses a PC, laptop, etc. Is going to be a victim of censoring if they were to go that far with censorship. When it comes to having a phone plan with a smartphone with somebody like AT&T it is different. You don't have to be connected to any wifi on your smartphone while on a plan to use the internet and can go to any web site you want as long as you have your wifi turned off. If the government becomes that stupid with censoring, everybody will be running to get a smartphone, tablet, or some computer that can be a phone because they would be able to surf anywhere on the web without using wifi as long as they had a plan with somebody like AT&T or Verizon. I think they've already fucked up again with letting AT&T and Time Warner merge. Remember AOL and Time Warner merging? People never learn.Didst thou forget the post-9/11 aftermath when the NSA went full throttle? If you scream too much, they may take notice.
When I'm at home on my wifi from my cable provider which is Comcast on my computer like my Asus Chromebook, Dell, Macbook, etc. I can access any web site I want just need to be on my cable provider's wifi all the time like everybody else. A2 you are correct that I was making a reference to public wifi. If you are on wifi at Starbucks or somewhere public they may have a thing like some ISP or user data where they can censor certain web sites based on wording of the web site. Now web sites that are into videos like Youtube can still be accessed but it depends on if you can watch those videos or not based on their description. What we seemed to be experiencing the other day was censorship that was being tested as net neutrality is no more here. When I couldn't get on this site because it told me my internet was down but could access other web sites on my chromebook while on my wifi I knew something was up. The thing is that anybody who uses a PC, laptop, etc. Is going to be a victim of censoring if they were to go that far with censorship. When it comes to having a phone plan with a smartphone with somebody like AT&T it is different. You don't have to be connected to any wifi on your smartphone while on a plan to use the internet and can go to any web site you want as long as you have your wifi turned off. If the government becomes that stupid with censoring, everybody will be running to get a smartphone, tablet, or some computer that can be a phone because they would be able to surf anywhere on the web without using wifi as long as they had a plan with somebody like AT&T or Verizon. I think they've already fucked up again with letting AT&T and Time Warner merge. Remember AOL and Time Warner merging? People never learn.The case you make for Starbucks would be the same if you were wired or not, I don't sweat them for doing that, if they didn't you know there would be assholes streaming porn while people were there with their kids. This site is blocked in Starbucks though my VPN generally gets me past their content blockers when I'm trying to work. When I do work in a place that blocks the USASG I only use my admin tools and never open up the forum itself.
As far as your cell and the loss of net neutrality it will be the same. ATT will throttle the content that's not being paid for and when the government decides to remove your ability to pick your content then you're fucked. I was just in Turkey where they block tons of content (wikipedia as well, not just sex) and they also monitor VPN's. I burned through three different VPN's in three days. I would use one, it worked fine then the next time I couldn't connect.
I can see this happening in the US.
The case you make for Starbucks would be the same if you were wired or not, I don't sweat them for doing that, if they didn't you know there would be assholes streaming porn while people were there with their kids. This site is blocked in Starbucks though my VPN generally gets me past their content blockers when I'm trying to work. When I do work in a place that blocks the USASG I only use my admin tools and never open up the forum itself.
As far as your cell and the loss of net neutrality it will be the same. ATT will throttle the content that's not being paid for and when the government decides to remove your ability to pick your content then you're fucked. I was just in Turkey where they block tons of content (wikipedia as well, not just sex) and they also monitor VPN's. I burned through three different VPN's in three days. I would use one, it worked fine then the next time I couldn't connect.
I can see this happening in the US.I agree while on wifi somewhere in public there should be restrictions. Now if the government can pry into what we get into online from our smartphone, tablet, or whatever when not on wifi and us just using data then we will be screwed. I wouldn't put anything past them at this point. It is kind of ironic how they don't want another bullshit merger to happen when it has been them that have done a lot of bullshit since Y2 K.
KingSlayer22
06-21-18, 17:40
Some ass clown decided to give a party location out to a couple of friends no one knew or screened. Fortunately only the location was known when a few trusted known party regulars were already there with the guest of honor. We still partied with her and shut down all communication with anyone else.
So to the three I took a chance with through referrals are now blocked and this will be the last message you see from me. This is the reason I don't let people join this select group, its by invitation only. One of you trying to run the show as a big man is out in the cold now. Same with these special girls, I secure it so you can't pass their numbers around. Random texts won't go through and for good reason obviously. Nor are you getting in a party so now I'm having to ad another layer to the system since some of you want to crash parties.
You lose FOAD.
Some ass clown decided to give a party location out to a couple of friends no one knew or screened. Fortunately only the location was known when a few trusted known party regulars were already there with the guest of honor. We still partied with her and shut down all communication with anyone else.
So to the three I took a chance with through referrals are now blocked and this will be the last message you see from me. This is the reason I don't let people join this select group, its by invitation only. One of you trying to run the show as a big man is out in the cold now. Same with these special girls, I secure it so you can't pass their numbers around. Random texts won't go through and for good reason obviously. Nor are you getting in a party so now I'm having to ad another layer to the system since some of you want to crash parties.
You lose FOAD.Sorry to hear that. Hope nothing that bad happened.
KingSlayer22
06-22-18, 05:51
Sorry to hear that. Hope nothing that bad happened.No it didn't fortunately but we do this for safety reasons but you always have someone trying to bypass the system. There are guys out there that don't understand there are some people the don't know how to act aroumd these girls first off, some people mightbwant to rob folks, and who knows these party crashers could easily be passing out the information to others which really complicates things. Nothing happened because the room number never went out although it possibly could have.
Some ass clown decided to give a party location out to a couple of friends no one knew or screened. Fortunately only the location was known when a few trusted known party regulars were already there with the guest of honor. We still partied with her and shut down all communication with anyone else.
So to the three I took a chance with through referrals are now blocked and this will be the last message you see from me. This is the reason I don't let people join this select group, its by invitation only. One of you trying to run the show as a big man is out in the cold now. Same with these special girls, I secure it so you can't pass their numbers around. Random texts won't go through and for good reason obviously. Nor are you getting in a party so now I'm having to ad another layer to the system since some of you want to crash parties.
You lose FOAD.Sucks to be them.
BigMoney21
07-01-18, 16:32
Hey listen, this do not make the slightest sense, how in the hell can a online company change owners 3 times and still have the same person moderating on its payroll? And also I'm wondering how does one go about inputting an application in order to become a moderator for this company? I mean dude what's the qualifications for getting a job through USA sex guide? No one haven't posted anything useful on this website in any city long before this website went down. I wished the best for the new owner. And please allow this too post it's not an attack on anyone.
Pussy Dude
07-02-18, 01:20
Some ass clown decided to give a party location out to a couple of friends no one knew or screened. Fortunately only the location was known when a few trusted known party regulars were already there with the guest of honor. We still partied with her and shut down all communication with anyone else.
So to the three I took a chance with through referrals are now blocked and this will be the last message you see from me. This is the reason I don't let people join this select group, its by invitation only. One of you trying to run the show as a big man is out in the cold now. Same with these special girls, I secure it so you can't pass their numbers around. Random texts won't go through and for good reason obviously. Nor are you getting in a party so now I'm having to ad another layer to the system since some of you want to crash parties.
You lose FOAD.Definition of Ass clown for sure. Goodluck KS!22.
Hey listen, this do not make the slightest sense, how in the hell can a online company change owners 3 times and still have the same person moderating on its payroll? And also I'm wondering how does one go about inputting an application in order to become a moderator for this company? I mean dude what's the qualifications for getting a job through USA sex guide? No one haven't posted anything useful on this website in any city long before this website went down. I wished the best for the new owner. And please allow this too post it's not an attack on anyone.Because I'm really good at what I do, that's why they keep paying me more money.
If the site is so terrible why do you keep logging in?
These are the questions that keep me awake at night.
I find it really amusing how some hobbyists posting in the massage section complain about some masseuses giving bad handjobs. Seriously how hard is it to give a hand job? A masseuse would really have to go out of her way to give a bad one. This is why CAMPS a big no no for me.
I find it really amusing how some hobbyists posting in the massage section complain about some masseuses giving bad handjobs. Seriously how hard is it to give a hand job? A masseuse would really have to go out of her way to give a bad one. This is why CAMPS a big no no for me.Chinese ladies are notorious for shitty HEs. Think of it this way: They mostly grew up in a communist system where freedom was suppressed. That extends to the bedroom as well where most Chinese guys would just mount up, fuck them and not give a shit about being romantic. Those women never learned how to be sensual, and that translates to how they jack a dick. The few that do it well around here have had plenty of practice and coaching here by guys doing repeat visits.
BigMoney21
07-04-18, 00:36
Forgive me but I never meant to imply this website is terrible, I think it's pretty descent to say the least. I haven't login like that in a while but I got my own personal reasons on why I rather advise mongers on misleading Intel on chicks or places of venue.
Because I'm really good at what I do, that's why they keep paying me more money.
If the site is so terrible why do you keep logging in?
These are the questions that keep me awake at night.
The girl up front sure looked of Korean heritage but I'm no expert LOL. My mistake.She may have been of Korean descent but grew up in China but I've only heard Chinese spoken from everyone on staff. Additionally, no Korean who was born and raised in Korea would work at a CAMP as Koreans generally think of themselves as superior to Chinese.
Johnny Mapalo
07-09-18, 23:41
Why I hate them? This is absolutely ridiculous. I saw something on here 2 weeks ago that made me just completely roll my eyes. 1 guy wrote on here how a chick ripped him off. Shortly after 2 other guys came forward talking about the same chic ripped them off too. I'm sitting there saying to myself, so why didn't one of you cock suckers come on here earlier to warn others of the chic who was ripping people off. If that one person never came forward, would you have just kept silent and allow others to get ripped off too? Ridiculous.
Is that how it goes around here? If someone rips you off, you don't write a report until enough other people get ripped off too, so that you can feel satisfied that you weren't the only one ripped off. Really? Funny thing is, all these guys who got ripped off by the same chic, actually saw her previously and had a good time. None, I repeat-none, 0, zilch, wrote a review on the said chic when they had a good time with her. So, if they hadn't have gotten ripped off by said chic, none of them had any intentions of writing any reviews on the chic. They'd rather just keep her to themselves.
Funny thing is, all the ones that saw her and got ripped off, saw her based on someone else who actually wrote a review with contact info, so these ingrate leeching lurkers could contact the chic and see her based on someone else who did something that they failed to do. Write a freaking review!! Ridiculous. Then you have these dudes with like 2-3 post going around bragging and boasting about how they're having so much funny on the sugar baby site, when they wouldn't have even know about the site if it wasn't for people on this board making it known.
They're having fun, and apparently too much fun to post reviews about said chic's they're having fun with. Then you have dudes who post reviews and purposefully leave out the contact info (I can't remember it-yeah right) so no one can see the girls but them. LOL. Some want you to pm them for the contact info, so they can use it as trade bait for someone else "hidden gem". You dudes on this site are utterly ridiculous. From this day forth, if I ever get anything good, I'm not posting any links or contact info. I'll post the pics only and if you find them, you find them. I'm not giving you dudes any edge with names or anything.
Anything bad like a ripoff, I'm posting links, pictures and contact info for all to see. Imma start getting just like you ungrateful ingrate bastards that like to wait for others to post first, then start leeching and lurking away without writing a review and leaving any info. Some of you cocksuckers think this is a one-way street where you can just take, take, take and take some more. No! You gives nothing, you gets nothing!! And if I post no link or contact info, don't pm for any contact info, cause you will get ignored.
I'm tired of you cocksuckers, especially out of towners, pm'ing me for contact info and writing no review when you get what you want. You're sitting there leaching and lurking for someone else to go first and you just come out of no where with your hand stretched out begging for information. Fuck off!! And stop pm'ing me your wish list as well. No, I do not have any 19 year old blonde hair, blue eyed big tittied girl with a flat stomach, no kids that does bbj, BBFS and anal as a plus.
Cocksucker, if I had such a Goddess that I was BBFS"ing with, why the hell would I pass her info on to you. Especially if your some unknown out-of-towner. Get the fuck out of here with that shit!! Who the hell wants to share their BBFS UTR with some unknown retard. How the hell does that even sound? Fuck off!! Rant over.
Yep too many moochers and well stated brother, this is why I stopped actively participating here.
Why I hate them? This is absolutely ridiculous. I saw something on here 2 weeks ago that made me just completely roll my eyes. 1 guy wrote on here how a chick ripped him off. Shortly after 2 other guys came forward talking about the same chic ripped them off too. I'm sitting there saying to myself, so why didn't one of you cock suckers come on here earlier to warn others of the chic who was ripping people off. If that one person never came forward, would you have just kept silent and allow others to get ripped off too? Ridiculous.
Is that how it goes around here? If someone rips you off, you don't write a report until enough other people get ripped off too, so that you can feel satisfied that you weren't the only one ripped off. Really? Funny thing is, all these guys who got ripped off by the same chic, actually saw her previously and had a good time. None, I repeat-none, 0, zilch, wrote a review on the said chic when they had a good time with her. So, if they hadn't have gotten ripped off by said chic, none of them had any intentions of writing any reviews on the chic. They'd rather just keep her to themselves.
Funny thing is, all the ones that saw her and got ripped off, saw her based on someone else who actually wrote a review with contact info, so these ingrate leeching lurkers could contact the chic and see her based on someone else who did something that they failed to do. Write a freaking review!! Ridiculous. Then you have these dudes with like 2-3 post going around bragging and boasting about how they're having so much funny on the sugar baby site, when they wouldn't have even know about the site if it wasn't for people on this board making it known.
They're having fun, and apparently too much fun to post reviews about said chic's they're having fun with. Then you have dudes who post reviews and purposefully leave out the contact info (I can't remember it-yeah right) so no one can see the girls but them. LOL. Some want you to pm them for the contact info, so they can use it as trade bait for someone else "hidden gem". You dudes on this site are utterly ridiculous. From this day forth, if I ever get anything good, I'm not posting any links or contact info. I'll post the pics only and if you find them, you find them. I'm not giving you dudes any edge with names or anything.
Anything bad like a ripoff, I'm posting links, pictures and contact info for all to see. Imma start getting just like you ungrateful ingrate bastards that like to wait for others to post first, then start leeching and lurking away without writing a review and leaving any info. Some of you cocksuckers think this is a one-way street where you can just take, take, take and take some more. No! You gives nothing, you gets nothing!! And if I post no link or contact info, don't pm for any contact info, cause you will get ignored.
I'm tired of you cocksuckers, especially out of towners, pm'ing me for contact info and writing no review when you get what you want. You're sitting there leaching and lurking for someone else to go first and you just come out of no where with your hand stretched out begging for information. Fuck off!! And stop pm'ing me your wish list as well. No, I do not have any 19 year old blonde hair, blue eyed big tittied girl with a flat stomach, no kids that does bbj, BBFS and anal as a plus.
Cocksucker, if I had such a Goddess that I was BBFS"ing with, why the hell would I pass her info on to you. Especially if your some unknown out-of-towner. Get the fuck out of here with that shit!! Who the hell wants to share their BBFS UTR with some unknown retard. How the hell does that even sound? Fuck off!! Rant over.
She may have been of Korean descent but grew up in China but I've only heard Chinese spoken from everyone on staff. Additionally, no Korean who was born and raised in Korea would work at a CAMP as Koreans generally think of themselves as superior to Chinese.Damn. Food for thought. Don't know much about the Asian culture but that's interesting. Is Chinese considered to be at the bottom of the Asian nationality hierarchy? Now that you mention it, the place itself does have a camp vibe (can see inside from street; no security door with access to all areas, or a "traditional" mamasan).
Ozymandias
07-10-18, 11:41
Why I hate them? This is absolutely ridiculous. I saw something on here 2 weeks ago that made me just completely roll my eyes. 1 guy wrote on here how a chick ripped him off. Shortly after 2 other guys came forward talking about the same chic ripped them off too. I'm sitting there saying to myself, so why didn't one of you cock suckers come on here earlier to warn others of the chic who was ripping people off. If that one person never came forward, would you have just kept silent and allow others to get ripped off too? Ridiculous.
Is that how it goes around here? If someone rips you off, you don't write a report until enough other people get ripped off too, so that you can feel satisfied that you weren't the only one ripped off. Really? Funny thing is, all these guys who got ripped off by the same chic, actually saw her previously and had a good time. None, I repeat-none, 0, zilch, wrote a review on the said chic when they had a good time with her. So, if they hadn't have gotten ripped off by said chic, none of them had any intentions of writing any reviews on the chic. They'd rather just keep her to themselves.One of the things scammers take advantage of is that people (no, not people in general; men specifically) are embarrassed to admit they've been ripped off. If others start admitting it, THEN they'll come out and say it, but no one wants to be "that guy". You would think that the anonymity here would overcome that, but apparently not.
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One of the things scammers take advantage of is that people (no, not people in general; men specifically) are embarrassed to admit they've been ripped off. If others start admitting it, THEN they'll come out and say it, but no one wants to be "that guy". You would think that the anonymity here would overcome that, but apparently not.
O.Yep, that's exactly it.
Johnny Mapalo
07-10-18, 22:59
Yep too many moochers and well stated brother, this is why I stopped actively participating here.
One of the things scammers take advantage of is that people (no, not people in general; men specifically) are embarrassed to admit they've been ripped off. If others start admitting it, THEN they'll come out and say it, but no one wants to be "that guy". You would think that the anonymity here would overcome that, but apparently not.
Case in point, just look at the guy with 2 post who just quoted my review in the Massage non-AMP thread. Guy has got 2 whole post, no reviews, just read my review with contact info on a non-AMP massage girl, went to see her based on my review and wrote no review himself. I can guarantee you that there are at least 4 other guys right now that read my review and calling and texting to set up an appointment. You think those leeching cock suckers will write a review. Fuggettibout!! Let them get ripped off. You'll be hearing from them from here to Mount Killamanjaro.
That's what I have a problem with, these cock suckers that go around reading reviews, jerking off to the reviews and going to visit the chics and writing no reviews at all. Just a "thank you" for giving me free info so I can mooch off you and wait for you to write another review. Shameless. From this day forth, no more contact link and info with any reviews. I may even go as far as blurring out the pics, just incase the chic may be popular.
Also, dudes, backpage is dead. The last bit of garbage they have milling around on those escort sites ain't worth a shit. They're increasing their rates because they feel that there is a shortage and guys are desperate for anything. I just had a chic who I saw previously for $80 qv in Buckhead, tried to quote me $200 for 20 minutes outcall. LOL. When I told her that wasn't enough time for $200, she said, "What about $300"? LOL.
These broads deserve nothing but $50-$60 qv, tops. That's it!! They're ungrateful as hell and deserve what's coming to them. It's good backpage closed down on their greedy ass. Get a fucking job. Some of you need to stop trying to bang every chic on those escort site. Those chics are a waste of time, dude. Most only looking for fast cash and for you to leave asap. Kyrow, please stop driving 50 plus miles to see these unknown escort chics. Smdh. I'm tired of seeing numerous post of you burning gas and making a fool of yourself waiting around in the parking lot for these chicken heads. Backpage is done, dude!! Done!!
That's what I have a problem with, these cock suckers that go around reading reviews, jerking off to the reviews and going to visit the chics and writing no reviews at all. Just a "thank you" for giving me free info so I can mooch off you and wait for you to write another review. Shameless. From this day forth, no more contact link and info with any reviews. I may even go as far as blurring out the pics, just incase the chic may be popular.Forums like need three things.
Content providers.
Content consumers.
Advertisers.
The advertisers are important because they bring the money that keeps the lights on, all they care about are eyeballs. Content providers such as yourself are important because that's the thing that draws the lurkers which will always outnumber the participants by about 10-1.
I'm not fighting with you hoss, I wish everybody would participate but the fact is it's not going to happen and without the lurkers our numbers drop by 90% and the advertisers go and then the forum is gone.
Personally I hope you keep posting, I enjoy reading your reviews.
A2.
Damn. Food for thought. Don't know much about the Asian culture but that's interesting. Is Chinese considered to be at the bottom of the Asian nationality hierarchy? Now that you mention it, the place itself does have a camp vibe (can see inside from street; no security door with access to all areas, or a "traditional" mamasan).Filipinos are usually considered to be at the bottom of the Asian barrel, at least they get treated that way. This, of course, is due to economic reasons, not character.
Damn. Food for thought. Don't know much about the Asian culture but that's interesting. Is Chinese considered to be at the bottom of the Asian nationality hierarchy? Now that you mention it, the place itself does have a camp vibe (can see inside from street; no security door with access to all areas, or a "traditional" mamasan).On which group you are talking to. I am always shocked at the blatant racism I saw between different groups of Asians when I travel over there. I can assure you beyond a shadow of a doubt that the Chinese don't consider themselves at the bottom of the Asian hierarchy. Of all the ethnic groups I had interactions with in SE Asia the tourists from China were without question the most difficult to deal with.
From what I could gather they don't look at it as a hierarchy, it's "us" whoever the "us" is, and then everybody else, including westerners.
Member #5837
07-12-18, 08:34
Forums like need three things.
Content providers.
Content consumers.
Advertisers.
The advertisers are important because they bring the money that keeps the lights on, all they care about are eyeballs. Content providers such as yourself are important because that's the thing that draws the lurkers which will always outnumber the participants by about 10-1.
I'm not fighting with you hoss, I wish everybody would participate but the fact is it's not going to happen and without the lurkers our numbers drop by 90% and the advertisers go and then the forum is gone.
Personally I hope you keep posting, I enjoy reading your reviews.
A2.A2, you got this thing figured out!
Head Hunting
07-13-18, 01:13
Filipinos are usually considered to be at the bottom of the Asian barrel, at least they get treated that way. This, of course, is due to economic reasons, not character.
This has been my experience too. At least in America. For some reason Asians look down on filipinos. I don't know why cause there are a lot of sexy ass filipinas out there.
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It kills me when I see posts from these women claming Atlanta guys are cheap. No it's not that we are cheap your in a city where the market is saturated with women with phat asses and big titties. And whenever the market has more the price goes down. Hell you can fuck your next door neighbor with the 80 inch ass for a pack of smokes here in Atlanta. Yeah you might stand out up north somewhere but here in Atlanta we see ass and titties everyday. Just saying.
Johnny Mapalo
07-14-18, 12:41
It kills me when I see posts from these women claming Atlanta guys are cheap. No it's not that we are cheap your in a city where the market is saturated with women with phat asses and big titties. And whenever the market has more the price goes down. Hell you can fuck your next door neighbor with the 80 inch ass for a pack of smokes here in Atlanta. Yeah you might stand out up north somewhere but here in Atlanta we see ass and titties everyday. Just saying.I was about to touch on this one a long time ago. I looked at a few girls snap page when they were in Atlanta and saw them cursing Atlanta people saying that they will never come back to Atlanta again. LOL. They said that Atlanta men were too cheap and wanted them to do a whole lot for crack head numbers. LOL. Well, guess what, ladies. There are ladies that are willing to do alot for crack head numbers in Atlanta, so why should anyone pay you $100 for a qv everything covered and he has to host. Gtfoh with that!!
I even heard them saying Milwaukee is cheap too, so apparently Milwaukee and Atlanta are the 2 cheapest (or monger smartest) cities in America. LOL. Speaking about snapchat. Dudes, all those chics on snapchat with the nasty videos of them getting banged raw is either their pimp or boyfriend. Those snap chat crew are all overpriced pimped out scabs. Some even want you to send them money via snapchat or cashapp to set up a date. Smh. One told me that I could have her and her girlfriend for the whole night for $150 sent cash app. Pfft. Ok. Keep dreaming.
I seriously hope none of you desperate horny tricks are sending these snapchat frauds money via cash app. They and their pimps will be laughing their asses off to the back. I just saw Snowcone or her pimp post a new review for Snowcone in the Backpage Advertister Review thread. LOL. Dudes, please don't fall for it. That person has only 1 post and its a review about a pimped out * SnowConeJones, on snapchat. Her and her crew of girls are all pimped out and getting fucked silly by their pimps in the videos. They all blocked me from their snapchat pages when I told them I sure appreciate their pimps wearing out his products in the vidoes. LOL.
Stay away from these overpriced Snapchat pimped out sluts. Another thing, I just read where someone said that the SA-Sugar Baby site is the new substitute for backpage. Pfft. LOL. Not even hardly, dudes. If you think that your going to pay a $90 membership on SA and get laid that night, your sadly mistaken. Those chics living situation, first of all, is nothing like the chics on the former backpage. Those chics on that site have their own apartment, house, whatever and don't need money right now. They're not trying to pay for the room so they can stay another night.
Your not going to go on that SA site and think you have the pick of the litter and pick which chic you want to slay for the night. Not all of them are selling ass for cash. Alot of them are running that cash app- send me money via cash app for some pics and vidoes- scam. Don't fall for it!! Yes, there are females on there selling ass, but you are not going to be messaging any and every chic think your going to smash for cash that night. Many of them don't even respond when you message them.
With backpage, it was ass on the spot because chics posted ads for solely that purpose. With SA, you have all kinds of chics looking for all kinds of things. Some want to sell pictures and videos, some want you take them out to eat and fill their bellies, some want you to be a traditional daddy / simp and give them money to walk around with them like a trophy, and some are straight selling ass for money. You will know the ones by what they say in their ads or by them contacting you. If they contact you out of the blue, you can best believe they're contacting others too in the same way. To some of these chics its a numbers game.
Another thing, I just read where someone said that the SA-Sugar Baby site is the new substitute for backpage. Pfft. LOL. Not even hardly, dudes.Alright, I don't know if that's a reference to a post of mine, but since I did mention SA in the Backpage thread about alternative sites, I'll assume it is and offer a clarification. What I said there was "I think sites like SA will become more the norm going forward as well". I did NOT mean that SA itself is "the new Backpage". What I meant is the way to find quality pay-to-play activity is moving away from the listings sites and toward a social-networking sort of model like SA. My perspective that was unstated in my post was that you used to be able to find women worth dropping a few bills on in "the listings", but I don't see that ever being the case again. But SA is full of such opportunities, and from a pool of women you'd never find in "the listings". And plenty of "solicitors" who'd gladly hook up tonight (hint. They're the ones sending unsolicited messages with phone numbers or kiks to dudes like me who don't even have a photo).
So with Backpage being gone and all this FOSTA garbage happening, I think the marketplace is going to reassemble more in the social-networking kind of model than just a new "listings" site. SA's model of premium paid membership for dudes won't make IT the new Backpage, but the new Backpage will probably look a lot like SA.
Johnny Mapalo
07-15-18, 11:40
What is the consensus for using the Cash App? I assume there's no way to get it back if the girl decides to play you for a simp? Definitely not using it to pay prior to meeting the girl in the room!! What is the consensus from people who have used it? Here's an ad requesting Cash App only.
https://atlanta.adlist24.com/escorts/a136634That's what I say if you are stupid enough to send an unknown chic you've never met money via cash app, venmo, money dot green card, western union. That's just fucking stupid and desperate on a guys part and a mark on your chest from a providers part. I can't believe how many guys actually fall for this bullshit. Those Snapchat hoes are all rip offs. They all want you to send money via cash app to supposedly pay for their room and such. Never pay for rooms!! Your an idiot if you do!!
StnmtnHunter
07-17-18, 08:49
That's what I say if you are stupid enough to send an unknown chic you've never met money via cash app, venmo, money dot green card, western union. That's just fucking stupid and desperate on a guys part and a mark on your chest from a providers part. I can't believe how many guys actually fall for this bullshit. Those Snapchat hoes are all rip offs. They all want you to send money via cash app to supposedly pay for their room and such. Never pay for rooms!! Your an idiot if you do!!10/10 you'll never see that money again. If she don't accept cash, move on to the next bro.
That's what I say if you are stupid enough to send an unknown chic you've never met money via cash app, venmo, money dot green card, western union. That's just fucking stupid and desperate on a guys part and a mark on your chest from a providers part. I can't believe how many guys actually fall for this bullshit. Those Snapchat hoes are all rip offs. They all want you to send money via cash app to supposedly pay for their room and such. Never pay for rooms!! Your an idiot if you do!!Not planning to ever use Cash App but I was curious why it was appearing more and more in ads.
Johnny Mapalo
07-17-18, 12:55
Alright, I don't know if that's a reference to a post of mine, but since I did mention SA in the Backpage thread about alternative sites, I'll assume it is and offer a clarification. What I said there was "I think sites like SA will become more the norm going forward as well". I did NOT mean that SA itself is "the new Backpage". What I meant is the way to find quality pay-to-play activity is moving away from the listings sites and toward a social-networking sort of model like SA. My perspective that was unstated in my post was that you used to be able to find women worth dropping a few bills on in "the listings", but I don't see that ever being the case again. But SA is full of such opportunities, and from a pool of women you'd never find in "the listings". And plenty of "solicitors" who'd gladly hook up tonight (hint. They're the ones sending unsolicited messages with phone numbers or kiks to dudes like me who don't even have a photo).
So with Backpage being gone and all this FOSTA garbage happening, I think the marketplace is going to reassemble more in the social-networking kind of model than just a new "listings" site. SA's model of premium paid membership for dudes won't make IT the new Backpage, but the new Backpage will probably look a lot like SA.That's where you're wrong again, my friend. SA is not full of opportunities from a pool of women you'd never find in a listing. If what your saying is the case, then facebook would have been a hookup site a long time ago. Not every woman on SA is selling ass for money. Alot of them are running picture and videos scam for cash app and wanting you to give them money just to be friends. Don't think your going to go on there and get the pick of the litter. Most of the chics who message you unsolicited, message other guys unsolicited too. Its a numbers game to them. If they can get 4 guys to give them $250 a week, that's a $1,000 a week income for them.
Those SA broads who message guys unsolicited are out there doing it for numbers. Everytime a chic messages me unsolicited, I have another account (fake white guy) that I used to view their page after they message me on my real page. 9 times out of 10, the same chic that just messaged my real page, messages my fake page 1 minute later. I know then what they're all about. Not every chic on SA is doing that though. Alot of them just want you to send money and get nothing but friendship in return. Some of them think that they're actually Sugar Babies. LOL.
Backpage was all about 1 thing and everybody knew what you were calling them for. SA is a different thing with mixed offerings. You're not going to be going on there getting the pick of the litter of which girl you want to bang tonight. The ones that message you are the ones that are offering for tonight, but they're also offering and messaging other guys for the same night as well.
10/10 you'll never see that money again. If she don't accept cash, move on to the next bro.
Not planning to ever use Cash App but I was curious why it was appearing more and more in ads.Cash App is the new hustle game. Once they start getting guys to trust and buy into sending money via Cash App, more and more of these broads will be popping up all over the place. Sending money cash app for pics and videos is a big thing on that SA site. I don't know how people fall for it.
The Bird Man
07-17-18, 19:26
That's where you're wrong again, my friend. SA is not full of opportunities from a pool of women you'd never find in a listing. If what your saying is the case, then facebook would have been a hookup site a long time ago. Not every woman on SA is selling ass for money. Alot of them are running picture and videos scam for cash app and wanting you to give them money just to be friends. Don't think your going to go on there and get the pick of the litter. Most of the chics who message you unsolicited, message other guys unsolicited too. Its a numbers game to them. If they can get 4 guys to give them $250 a week, that's a $1,000 a week income for them.
Those SA broads who message guys unsolicited are out there doing it for numbers. Everytime a chic messages me unsolicited, I have another account (fake white guy) that I used to view their page after they message me on my real page. 9 times out of 10, the same chic that just messaged my real page, messages my fake page 1 minute later. I know then what they're all about. Not every chic on SA is doing that though. Alot of them just want you to send money and get nothing but friendship in return. Some of them think that they're actually Sugar Babies. LOL.
Backpage was all about 1 thing and everybody knew what you were calling them for. SA is a different thing with mixed offerings. You're not going to be going on there getting the pick of the litter of which girl you want to bang tonight. The ones that message you are the ones that are offering for tonight, but they're also offering and messaging other guys for the same night as well.
Cash App is the new hustle game. Once they start getting guys to trust and buy into sending money via Cash App, more and more of these broads will be popping up all over the place. Sending money cash app for pics and videos is a big thing on that SA site. I don't know how people fall for it.It just doesn't make sense, why would anyone pay before even meeting the provider face to face?? What incentive does the provider have to actually provide you service, once you've paid??
It's silly, even some webcam girls have been using cash app the scam people. Please make wise decisions people.
That's where you're wrong again, my friend. SA is not full of opportunities from a pool of women you'd never find in a listing. If what your saying is the case, then facebook would have been a hookup site a long time ago. Not every woman on SA is selling ass for money. Alot of them are running picture and videos scam for cash app and wanting you to give them money just to be friends. Don't think your going to go on there and get the pick of the litter. Most of the chics who message you unsolicited, message other guys unsolicited too. Its a numbers game to them. If they can get 4 guys to give them $250 a week, that's a $1,000 a week income for them.
Those SA broads who message guys unsolicited are out there doing it for numbers. Everytime a chic messages me unsolicited, I have another account (fake white guy) that I used to view their page after they message me on my real page. 9 times out of 10, the same chic that just messaged my real page, messages my fake page 1 minute later. I know then what they're all about. Not every chic on SA is doing that though. Alot of them just want you to send money and get nothing but friendship in return. Some of them think that they're actually Sugar Babies. LOL.
Backpage was all about 1 thing and everybody knew what you were calling them for. SA is a different thing with mixed offerings. You're not going to be going on there getting the pick of the litter of which girl you want to bang tonight. The ones that message you are the ones that are offering for tonight, but they're also offering and messaging other guys for the same night as well.Not to argue, because what's the point of that, but SA is most definitely full of opportunities. Of all sorts. They work somewhat hard to keep it from being an "escort site", but there's most definitely escorts there messaging guy after guy looking for a date. And in my book that's fine. And there are women who'd never post a "listing" but who are more than happy to trade money and attention for sex and attention. I don't think for a second that's an exclusive arrangement, but that's also fine. And there are women who are really after that "sugar baby" lifestyle of being taken care of and all that. I've been with women of the first two types and had conversations with the third in my brief time on SA. It's a good deal.
The reason SA works as a (paid) hookup site where Facebook doesn't is people give an explicit signal on SA that they're interested in that. Like I've said to young women I've met from there, I can't imagine they'd like some old guy chatting them up randomly at lunch or something asking to get together, and I wouldn't just randomly chat up some college girl expecting that she might want to get together. But in the SA world, it's a given that we do. A beautiful thing, really.
So I joined Switter awhile back and this site seriously sucks. Providers are tagging #atlanta and they're not even in Atlanta with a so called "touring" soon. Big example with this provider, google Vanessaink. Provider out of Florida. DMed her asking when she's coming to Atlanta but never responded. STILL she tags Atlanta!
So I joined Switter awhile back and this site seriously sucks. Providers are tagging #atlanta and they're not even in Atlanta with a so called "touring" soon. Big example with this provider, google Vanessaink. Provider out of Florida. DMed her asking when she's coming to Atlanta but never responded. STILL she tags Atlanta!Yeah but DAMN I'd like to get DT from her and more.
Yeah but DAMN I'd like to get DT from her and more.She's based out of Destin or near there. I spend some time in Panama City Beach and there's an active forum where dudes just rave about her. I always want to try to make time to get to see her, but haven't been able to. Seems like a hell of a time.
Johnny,
I feel you are the Chaucer of our time and hobby. Thank you for your contributions. Sorry about your experience. As Johnny pointed out, a series of little mistakes and carelessness usually leads to a problem. I am sure he won't make the same mistakes again. "It is better to be forewarned than forlorn. ".Damn JM. Sorry that happened to you! It's a reminder to all of us to be vigilant in this hobby! I'll have to rethink taking my preferred thin slab with me!
Google all phone numbers, before you go to see any of these chics. That 2nd link phone number when googled leads to the landline phone number of a company called "Record Available: Land Line: Newsouth Communications Corp. - Ga: Jonesboro, Georgia". The police are using landline numbers and linking them with the undercover cops cell phone to tap the lines and record the conversations. Google is your friend.
Get a lawyer. That's the best advice you'll get on here. Some require retainers, others will take payments. They can answer all your questions and give you the best course of action. They'll even scrutinize DeKalb's paperwork and procedures and try to poke holes in the case. If the lawyer can't or if, like you said, you just want to get this over with and avoid any possible humiliation, then plead out. A lawyer may even be able to convince the the to plead down to disorderly conduct or something. It does happen. The best way to get that is to convince them that you're a fine upstanding citizen with flaws and that you're addressing those flaws. For instance, go to a Sex Addicts support group or something along those lines. It will only help your case and you may convince them to do a plea deal and get community service. Best of luck to you and keep us posted.
Big Comanche
07-24-18, 13:00
Damn, 3 days in the pokey for a misdemeanor?
Be very careful of that escortbabylon, listcrawler site like I said before. They've banned alot of people from the site and the pimps and police have taken over. They can write fake reviews and comments and delete comments themselves. Very bad!! I see 2 ads below, one favors a police ad and the other has favorable comments written by the chic's pimp. I remember the 2nd chic a few years back. She's worth no more than $50 qv, not $80 qv that her and her pimp are quoting you. Be careful!
https://escortbabylon.net/#!/atlanta/comments/6785867586/26650938/1
https://escortbabylon.net/#!/atlanta/post/6785867586/26650938/26650938
This one above definitely has a pimp / boyfriend lurking around. Notice in the comment section some "Sugardaddy" member is praising her services. Right!! That's her pimp / boyfriend drumming up service for her at $80 qv. Laughable. She's a $50 qv chic at best. Do not fall for the fake comments and reviews on that site. The pimps, shady providers, and police have taken over that site. Be careful.Look at this big head fool back again. I reviewed her back in May last year. She is def not worth more than 50! She def has a boyfriend / pimp and back then I thought she was pregnant so I guess she had the baby and now gained a little weight. I would def stay away and she also reviews your phone number on that site. Called me a cop a few times under my number but still saw me smh.
http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?10689-Backpage-Advertiser-Reviews&p=3394982#post3394982.
Scroll down to Brandi Rose.
TantraMaster
07-24-18, 19:17
A lawyer can work miracles. Especially with a misdemeanor. Please don't go to arraignment with a lawyer. If you don't already have one, call the Georgia bar association and get a referral.
Is it just me, or does Johnny's story sound hard to believe? Maybe even weird?I'm not saying Johnny is telling the truth or not but there were 8 people arrested on 7/20 in Dekalb county for Pandering.
https://independent.com.atlanta.listcrawler.com/post/26713556/6785739409
https://liveescortreviews.com/ad/atlanta/678-783-4745/1/1852987
I turned around and saw 2 cops come through the unlocked front door and 1 cop come through the supposedly locked side door. 1 black male cop and 2 black female cops, 1 taking pictures as she walked towards. This pig bish had a big ass camera with a big ass flash taking pictures of me butt ass nekkid on the bed. I try to reach for my brief and pants while blocking my face and turning my head from the camera. Muthafucka, I'm busted!!
I couldn't believe it. After 8 solid years of buying ass, I finally get busted. I felt about 3 inches at the time, as I kept reaching for my underwear and the fucking cop kept trying to get clear pictures. The cop taking the pictures, told me to stop moving and the other male cop was telling me not reach for my clothes. Fuck you!!
You ain't going to have me on the front page of the papers. I actually thought I was going to be on tv like you see on those police sting tv shows. Muthafucka!! For 45 seconds, the female cop is trying to take pics and even got down on the floor to take better pics. I was finally able to retrieve my underwear and put in on as the picture taking continued. You bish!!
They probably got a whole 50 picture collage of me on film. Fuckkkk!! I never felt so embarrassed in my life. I got busted! I got sat there in my underwear, hunched over and trying to block my face with my hands. The male officer went through my pants pocket and retrieved the 2 slabs from there and placed it right next to the 50 dollars on the table.
They then took pictures of it and said that it was evidence. I asked for it back, but they said, "No, that's going to be used as evidence". Fuck! Never bring any protection!! I should have known better. After the evidence pick, they allowed me to put on my pants, shirt and shoes and arrested me. They walked me out of the room and into a room at the very end of the hall, across from the room that I was in.
The pigs were using the room next door and the room across the hall. I was escorted in the capture room as another trick was in there handcuffed in a chair. There were also 2 other police in there looking like some black ninja turtles with black ski mask on their faces. They were a black male and female cop. I sat on the bed as the black ninja turtle dude told one of them that we got 7 for the day.
Nice lick for an unknown chic that just placed an ad on the internet. 7 tricks times 50 bones equals $350 for the day. Not bad. And you dudes think these chic's are broke. Yeah right. Look at what some unknown unreviewed fake pic chic can pull in, in one day. Now think of how much a reviewed real pic chic probably pulls in per day ($500+ easily) compared to this undercover chic.
None of these chic's are starving for money. None!! I looked at the old trick that they nabbed and looked beside the bed next to him and saw a know of 100's bills on the bed. WTF!! Are you fucking kidding me? There was easily at least $1500 on the bed and the police said that they pulled it out of the old tricks pocket. Really dude?
Over $1,500 in your pocket to visit some unknown unreviewed chic you just met on the internet. I can't believe people still do that shit. What kind of pussy are you buying with over $1,500 in your pockets? What if you had gotten robbed you dumbass. What a dumbass!! He was some dumb ass 52 year old black male. You shamed your whole race. Dumb ass!!
About 25 minutes later, as the police probably had nothing else coming in, they took me and the dumb sap down stairs and out the back door to an awaiting police cruiser. They drove both of our asses to Dekalb County Jail and gave us both $150 cash bond, charged with misdemeanor soliciting an undercover cop for sex for $50. Well, that was my charge, I'm pretty sure that ole sap was paying way more than 50 bones as all he had were 100 dollar bills in his pockets in his pocket. What a dumb ass!
I can't believe these types of people still exist today. While we were sitting in our holding cells, there were 3 other people in there that got busted by the same undercover bish. They all said she took their clothes off for them and got them naked. I always thought cops were not allowed to undress you or touch you like that, but I'm guess I'm wrong. One dude even said that he asked to touch the cops vagina and tits before anything got started and she let him do it. Wow!!
But, he also said that she asked him what he was looking for and he told her, "Just a quickie", so I guess that's how he got busted. The cop never asked me any sexual questions while we were in the room, but now I know why. That's because she got all the information she needed from me via text when I confirmed with her that I wanted oral, then sex. What a dumbass move. The cops need to get that confirmation either by text or verbally.
They got it from me by text and got it from other trick, verbally. Also, while in the holding cell, the ole sap pulled out the whole knot of $100 that he had in his pockets and started counting it on the side. It was definitely over $2000, looks like it could have been about 3,000 bucks. What the fuck was he thinking. I overhead him telling someone that he thought it was a robbery and he was going to tell them they could have all of the money. Really?
No gun and a pocket full of 100 dollar bills. Mark ass trick!! I'm glad I didn't take my pow pow into the room either, because one of the dudes said they took his gun. I bought my fire from off the streets so I'd been in some serious shit if I was packing. Thank goodness I wasn't. Err.
I got to court for an arraignment in November. I'm going to plead guilty off the bat to save myself the embarrassment. I don't want my naked pictures paraded through the court for any jurors anywhere. Too much of an embarrassment. I need to get that shit expunged and sealed off my record immediately after. Any helpers? So long fellow ass buyers. Don't get caught by your favorite uncle.Your story just sounds incredibly huge to believe. You're actually saying cops came into the room with you in it while you had no clothes on and just kept taking pictures of you with a camera? If dekalb cops are doing that then they need better training because the only thing they should be having in their hands when doing a bust is their guns because you are the supposed suspect of a crime and should be considered armed and dangerous at the time when they are doing the bust. It's like going trying to bust somebody who is said to have a lot of guns in their hotel room, "Police, don't move! Then flash the camera like the paparazzi. I mean that just sounds like the most retarded way the police can arrest somebody. I do believe you about the Dekalb County jail though. Sounds like they haven't got better since 1997 when I was last over there. As a visitor.
There are lies, dammed lies, and statistics. I believe with all the mongering JM does he is a statistic. Monger enough and eventually the odds of chance stack up against you. Add ignoring spidey sense and the odds of getting burned increase.
Your story just sounds incredibly huge to believe. You're actually saying cops came into the room while you had no clothes on and just kept taking pictures of you with a camera? If dekalb cops are doing that then they need better training because the only thing they should be having in their hands when doing a bust is their guns because you are the supposed suspect of a crime and should be considered armed and dangerous at the time when they are doing the bust. It's like going trying to bust somebody who is said to have a lot of guns in their hotel room, "Police, don't move! Then flash the camera like the paparazzi. I mean that just sounds like the most retarded way the police can arrest somebody. I do believe you about the Dekalb County jail though. Sounds like they haven't got better since 1997 when I was last over there. As a visitor.
Your story just sounds incredibly huge to believe. You're actually saying cops came into the room with you in it while you had no clothes on and just kept taking pictures of you with a camera? If dekalb cops are doing that then they need better training because the only thing they should be having in their hands when doing a bust is their guns because you are the supposed suspect of a crime and should be considered armed and dangerous at the time when they are doing the bust. It's like going trying to bust somebody who is said to have a lot of guns in their hotel room, "Police, don't move! Then flash the camera like the paparazzi. I mean that just sounds like the most retarded way the police can arrest somebody. I do believe you about the Dekalb County jail though. Sounds like they haven't got better since 1997 when I was last over there. As a visitor.If cops did everything according to their training there wouldn't be a song called fuck the police and millions of people who hate cops because of their always stepping outside of the law they are supposed to uphold. Cops arent morally just in ANY way.
Is it just me, or does Johnny's story sound hard to believe? Maybe even weird?
No disrespect to JMap, but I was thinking the same thing. But its certainly possible.Johnny's been doing this a long time and I don't see how he could make that up so I'm calling it as him telling the truth. Saying that, the cops had no right to arrest you even if you were doing what they were trying to bust people for doing. The way they came in and arrested you is not right. You shouldn't have been in jail at all. One poster said that 8 people were arrested for pandering in Dekalb last Friday and that is one too many for me. Sounds like Dekalb is way out of line. My advice is to get in contact with somebody on the political side and tell them what happened. I know you may think that is a bad idea but it is not really. Pay attention closely Johnny.
DEKALB COUNTY IS OUT OF LINE HERE. You should even think about suing them. Seriously. Johnny I know you and me have had some disagreements but I have had something like this happen to me before.
If you want you can talk to me in pm. I would really like to hear more about this.
https://independent.com.atlanta.listcrawler.com/post/26713556/6785739409
https://liveescortreviews.com/ad/atlanta/678-783-4745/1/1852987
This chic here quoted me $50 when I asked for her rates via text. She then text, "you want sex or just oral".
Me being the senile dumbass that I am, I replied, "I want oral 1st, then sex". Big mistake!! Never explicitly state what you are looking for via text or verbally. Just reply with "full service" and leave it at that. My bad, but I was just texting random girls and playing around on the phone. She told me that she was at the Stonecrest Mall and for some strange reason, I thought she was talking about some apartments across from the mall.
I can't believe what I'm reading lmao. I would never go see ANYONE that uses the word "sex" on the phone or via text. Any explicit language cancels the date immediately for me. If you were in Gwinnett they would of just arrested you as soon as you arrived. They wouldn't need you to go in the room because you basically convicted yourself via text. The girl they used might of not been a cop, alot of times they use regular girls, sometimes even prostitutes! The hotel being nice is a myth. They do stings at nice hotels like the W. All they need is the managers permission. I'm surprised you made it this long, you review a ton of new girls. I personally never go see new girls unless they posted over time. No cop on earth would show their face in an ad, so if you multiply that by her talking explicit over the phone then you shouldn't of even seen her.
I read your reviews and I always laugh when you say you took your clothes off with no help from the girl because that's what suppose to happen. No escort that's has sense will touch a trick before she sees his penis. Also no escort with sense would touch the money before she sees your penis. If you ever skeptical about someone your meeting then tell them you just want a massage. Nothing illegal about getting a massage or getting a lap dance and someone who works for the police wouldn't want to waste time by doing those.
No way you can beat that case because you gave them too much evidence, the most you can hope for is a lawyer that can plea you to a less offense.
Guys never see a girl that talks explicit over the phone because she's either very green or a cop. Why take the chance? If you really like her then wait a few weeks to see if she still posting. Wait to see if someone creditable reviews her. Also, a cop will never post an ad showing someones face, ever! There is negatives and positives in everything but one thing for sure, a woman coming to your house for a date means she is not a cop.
There may be some cops who are staying where Johnny was arrested that are doing stupid things they shouldn't be doing and is eventually going to be public info I bet. Dekalb County has always been corrupt. Sounds like they are fucking up again.
Your story just sounds incredibly huge to believe. You're actually saying cops came into the room with you in it while you had no clothes on and just kept taking pictures of you with a camera? If dekalb cops are doing that then they need better training because the only thing they should be having in their hands when doing a bust is their guns because you are the supposed suspect of a crime and should be considered armed and dangerous at the time when they are doing the bust. It's like going trying to bust somebody who is said to have a lot of guns in their hotel room, "Police, don't move! Then flash the camera like the paparazzi. I mean that just sounds like the most retarded way the police can arrest somebody. I do believe you about the Dekalb County jail though. Sounds like they haven't got better since 1997 when I was last over there. As a visitor.The cops didn't need any guns as JM was lying butt naked on the bed waiting to get fucked out of his mind. All the cops needed at that point were zip ties.
I can't believe what I'm reading lmao. I would never go see ANYONE that uses the word "sex" on the phone or via text. Any explicit language cancels the date immediately for me. If you were in Gwinnett they would of just arrested you as soon as you arrived. They wouldn't need you to go in the room because you basically convicted yourself via text. The girl they used might of not been a cop, alot of times they use regular girls, sometimes even prostitutes! The hotel being nice is a myth. They do stings at nice hotels like the W. All they need is the managers permission. I'm surprised you made it this long, you review a ton of new girls. I personally never go see new girls unless they posted over time. No cop on earth would show their face in an ad, so if you multiply that by her talking explicit over the phone then you shouldn't of even seen her.
I read your reviews and I always laugh when you say you took your clothes off with no help from the girl because that's what suppose to happen. No escort that's has sense will touch a trick before she sees his penis. Also no escort with sense would touch the money before she sees your penis. If you ever skeptical about someone your meeting then tell them you just want a massage. Nothing illegal about getting a massage or getting a lap dance and someone who works for the police wouldn't want to waste time by doing those.
No way you can beat that case because you gave them too much evidence, the most you can hope for is a lawyer that can plea you to a less offense.
Guys never see a girl that talks explicit over the phone because she's either very green or a cop. Why take the chance? If you really like her then wait a few weeks to see if she still posting. Wait to see if someone creditable reviews her. Also, a cop will never post an ad showing someones face, ever! There is negatives and positives in everything but one thing for sure, a woman coming to your house for a date means she is not a cop.What about if the girl is legit and you go see her but the LE were monitoring her? Similar to how the Golden club situation happened in Dunwoody? That is the LE were video tapping clients and the LE went after the clients too.
Johnny Mapalo
07-25-18, 09:22
It was pure stupidity on my part, I will admit. I was just texting around random ads, not really paying attention to detail and intending on seeing anyone. That's why I was so reckless with the talk. I've had plenty of chics talk reckless like that via text and not be the police. I never take my phone into the room with me, so I never thought that would be an issue.
Yes, I know the evidence is strong as fuck against me that's why I believe the cops may want me to take me to trial because they know that they would most likely win. I don't know how I can take a plea of a lesser charge, because the cops know that they can get a conviction for pandering- soliciting an undercover cop for sex for $50. They also took the 2 condoms out of my pants pocket and placed it on the table next to the money and took pictures of them both. Arrggh.
Yes, the evidence is pretty strong against me. Fuck! I'd love to plea out for a lesser charge, but I doubt the cops would want to do that knowing how strong of a case they got against me. Here is the full coversation below via text. And I got to the motel 90 minutes after texting her. Not 2 hours later like I previously stated. Also, the cop text me the hotel name only via text and not the room number too, as I previously stated. Fuck!!
Big Comanche
07-25-18, 09:35
. Saying that, the cops had no right to arrest you even if you were doing what they were trying to bust people for doing. The way they came in and arrested you is not right. You shouldn't have been in jail at all. Sounds like Dekalb is way out of line. My advice is to get in contact with somebody on the political side and tell them what happened. I know you may think that is a bad idea but it is not really. Pay attention closely Johnny.
DEKALB COUNTY IS OUT OF LINE HERE. You should even think about suing them. Seriously. Johnny I know you and me have had some disagreements but I have had something like this happen to me before.Haha, I would NOT be taking legal advice from this guy.
MajMilkDuds
07-25-18, 10:34
Is it just me or has this thread got off topic and should be moved to a different thread? I feel like we got off the rails a little bit.
Vinnie Kramer
07-25-18, 11:36
Talk to a lawyer first. Don't just plead out. An initial consultation should be free or maybe a couple hundred. It will be worth it.
Most states require a waiting period of several years from end of sentence before you can expunge.
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I got to court for an arraignment in November. I'm going to plead guilty off the bat to save myself the embarrassment. I don't want my naked pictures paraded through the court for any jurors anywhere. Too much of an embarrassment. I need to get that shit expunged and sealed off my record immediately after. Any helpers? So long fellow ass buyers. Don't get caught by your favorite uncle.
Your story just sounds incredibly huge to believe. You're actually saying cops came into the room with you in it while you had no clothes on and just kept taking pictures of you with a camera? If dekalb cops are doing that then they need better training because the only thing they should be having in their hands when doing a bust is their guns because you are the supposed suspect of a crime and should be considered armed and dangerous at the time when they are doing the bust. It's like going trying to bust somebody who is said to have a lot of guns in their hotel room, "Police, don't move! Then flash the camera like the paparazzi. I mean that just sounds like the most retarded way the police can arrest somebody. I do believe you about the Dekalb County jail though. Sounds like they haven't got better since 1997 when I was last over there. As a visitor.If that was the reason the undercover cop chose to undress JM. Maybe it was her way of patting him down for weapons on the sneak tip. And probably a reason why the cops from the other room didn't come in guns blazing since they got the confirmation he was unarmed once she unlocked the door and gave the signal.
Ripper.
It was pure stupidity on my part, I will admit. I was just texting around random ads, not really paying attention to detail and intending on seeing anyone. That's why I was so reckless with the talk. I've had plenty of chics talk reckless like that via text and not be the police. I never take my phone into the room with me, so I never thought that would be an issue.
Yes, I know the evidence is strong as fuck against me that's why I believe the cops may want me to take me to trial because they know that they would most likely win. I don't know how I can take a plea of a lesser charge, because the cops know that they can get a conviction for pandering- soliciting an undercover cop for sex for $50. They also took the 2 condoms out of my pants pocket and placed it on the table next to the money and took pictures of them both. Arrggh.
Yes, the evidence is pretty strong against me. Fuck! I'd love to plea out for a lesser charge, but I doubt the cops would want to do that knowing how strong of a case they got against me. Here is the full coversation below via text. And I got to the motel 90 minutes after texting her. Not 2 hours later like I previously stated. Also, the cop text me the hotel name only via text and not the room number too, as I previously stated. Fuck!!They may have caught you soliciting maybe but the way you were arrested was violation of your civil rights and you were humiliated during the arrest. But I bet there may not have been any film in that camera they were using. The area you were in is a shithole. Very weird story Johnny, LOL.
They may have caught you soliciting maybe but the way you were arrested was violation of your civil rights and you were humiliated during the arrest. But I bet there may not have been any film in that camera they were using. The area you were in is a shithole. Very weird story Johnny, LOL.Film? Everything's been digital for 20 years.
Film? Everything's been digital for 20 years.Yes digital has been around for 20 years but old habits with some people and some jobs never die. While digital may be a thing now and you may not be able to find that polaroid camera everywhere now, the cops still use cameras with film and still use camcorders with cassette tapes. Yes the cops have gotten into using digital too. It's kind of complicated to explain, but here's how it goes. While film and vhs tapes may be not much in production anymore for people to buy in walmart, LE still gets supplied with old school technology. It is like that for many reasons, one because editing digital is too easy.
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