Rants and Raves

[The Parrot]

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[Bunnery Sgt]

That was quite a low blow, and a lane explanation for no AA in ads.

Sure you will have some AA trying to aggressively negotiate, but there are other reason besides that. You are not taking into account:

1) the fact that "brothers" can be more physically aggressive and less prone to take crap from anybody. Meaning if a provider is full of it, a rusher, or plans on running a scam; then she needs an EASY target. The "brothers" are NEVER an easy target, they almost always fight back against handlers and cause a scene. Non AA and older more frail mongers are seen as easier targets (and I've heard this DIRECTLY from a few providers and handlers.) Also keep in mind many of the "No AA" providers have an AA handler protecting them.

2) The chance that a "brother" may be too sexually aggressive, have too much stamina, or be packing too much python meat for certain providers to deal with. I've also heard this from providers, I have also tired out my fair share of providers. Older men tend to have less stamina and finish quicker, hence they are much EASIER customers.

3) Economics: the "brothers" may have less chips to work with, and less to LOSE therefore they may fight for their chips back if scammed. Whereas another type of monger would count his loss's and leave. Example: a MEDICAL DOCTOR has a lot to lose if caught tricking: he could lose his high paying career, his wife, and his reputation. Therefore when he is in a lose lose situation, he will walk away and take the monetary loss. In turn avoiding the greater problem of losing everything he has accomplished. Whereas a factory worker, or a regular "brother" may fight to the end for his chips, as he has no high paying career to lose, or I a wife at home. They tend to get offended easier when they find out that the 150 HH they paid, didn't include FS. (a trick some sneaky providers pull).

4) Crime: a "brother" may be more likely to try and become a providers handler, by force or coercion. I have heard Shelly speak of brothers trying to run her "business" for her.

5) hate / dislike: face it, certain providers just don't like the "brothers" and may view them a disgusting or too rough looking.

6) fear and stereotypes: certain providers are just afraid. The media does not showcase the "brothers" in a very positive light. It is what it is LOL.

But to simply say that they are blocked ONLY because of haggling, is just an ignorant thing to say.

Personally, I have read many stories of "no AA" providers robbing and scamming mongers. They sure know how to pick their victims. I wouldn't put up with any of the crap these scammers give to certain mongers. I always stand up and fight.

I am disappointed in the lack of intelligence you displayed in your post. I held you in high regards than that, shame on you bro.Damn you guys are really on it today. It's well known (well I guess not) that people who intend to scam consider older and non-black people "marks" in a lot of situations. I love the way you broke it down.

[MrHobbyist]

Ah, que the inevitable insults from the butt hurt simp brigade.

You know nothing about me to draw any concrete conclusions my "friend. " You have no idea how old I am, You don't know my job / career / occupation, and you don't know my level of education.

There is no reason for me to be "jealous" of a trick. Someone who HAS to pay 200+ for a short-lived EXPERIENCE with a woman, is no one ANYBODY should be jealous of.

I have girlfriends and fvk buddies that look 10 times better than the providers that are charging 200+. I'm far from desperate or jealous of anybody.

Also, I am able to afford ANY provider on BP. However, I know the value of a dollar and I'm not stupid enough to waste too much on community kitty. You think the providers who charge more are "upscale" or don't get ran through by multiple old tricks? If I was Bill Gates or Warren Buffett, I still would waste 200+ on these worn out birds. Especially the one's who work out of low-end notes or live in the ghetto.

"I bet you really like it when the previous monger's cum drips off your chin, don't you?

LOL, I don't daty, kiss, GFE or anything else romantic with these birds. So I would never have to worry about what you stated. I think men who pay women to pretend to be their girlfriend, are just pathetic (just my 2 cents).

Let me repeat it for you: I will NEVER be jealous of a TRICK, get that stupid idea out of your head. I know my worth, I know the value of a dollar, and I know 80% of the BP chicks are not worth 200+.

Maybe a "high end" agency escort, but DEFINITELY NOT a BP girl.

I'm tired of beating this dead horse. If you want to be a simp with your chips, go right ahead.

If you end up dead like the old simp on Glenwood, I will be right there at your funeral to take a piss on your grave!

You can have the last words.

Adios!!Well said! It's fascinating how ignorant some people are.

[MrHobbyist]

I'm glad the Rant and Rave Thread is here. Sometimes it helps to get things off your chest.

So. Two weeks ago I arranged a date with a hot lady, wide open menu, enthusiastic and participative. We had stayed in touch as the time passed and both of us were eager. I had scheduled two hours with my new friend and I was intending to use every minute indulging. She is a good value too.

I'm sitting on the plane, ready for takeoff on my way to Atlanta yesterday morning when I receive a text from my new friend. She woke up with a surprise visit from her monthly period. Needless to say, I was sooooo damn frustrated and disappointed. Not at her, because shit happens. But, damnit, it's not supposed to happen to ME!

So, I reach out to a buddy who hooks me up with an UTR who needs some $. The young lady and I exchange some texts. I'm very transparent with her about what I'm looking for (nothing exotic, just a really good f"&k) and she's on board.

I arrive at her place and she is beautiful! But, soon, I can tell she's feeling mellow from indulging in some substance. I allow the date to move forward because I just need to fire that round. Surprise, surprise. She's a dead fish. I try really hard for about 45 minutes and, finally, I just throw in the towel.

What a f"&king waste. I knew better. I should have been patient. Lesson re-learned.

Thanks for letting me vent.

It's fine that you used this thread for this. FYI, you may ALWAYS rant about chicks on the review threads. The idea behind these fight threads was to create a space where guys could call other guys idiots.

There are no members with vajaja's so you can't be argumentative when talking about them.

A2Stick with this site dude, keep posting and stay active, you'll have so many choices you won't know what to do with yourself.

[MrHobbyist]

Common sense is what determines a chicks, but nowadays most men are lacking it.

1) If a woman has tattoos all over her body, is sickly skinny, and works out of a ghetto Notel: she is NOT worth much.

2) Any provider who lives in a ghetto / rundown apartment complex, but charges 150+ is NOT worth it.

3) Any provider that lives in or around a dangerous / low income area and has a dirty room, and smelly kitty: IS NOT worth much.

I am beating the dead horse once again LOL.

It's funny when these mongers get robbed and scammed by the providers charging 150+.

You wasted your gas, time, and chips; only to be disrespected and taken advantage of.

Social Darwinism yet again.4) If she has a lot of negative statements in her ad, (no this no that, if do this I'll block you, if you do that I'll.) She's not worth it.

5) If she shares ads with two or three girls using the same number (in my experience) they are fly by night and don't give a shit about service. Not worth it.

6) If she has an attitude on the phone. Not worth it.

7) If she seems impatient or indifferent from the beginning of the meeting. Not worth it.

8) If she's not the girl in the pictures (close or not) . Usually not worth it.

9) If her pictures are 10 years and 40 pounds old (up or down in weight) . Not worth it.

I could do this all day.

[Pete1340]

Ah, que the inevitable insults from the butt hurt simp brigade.

I'm tired of beating this dead horse. If you want to be a simp with your chips, go right ahead.

If you end up dead like the old simp on Glenwood, I will be right there at your funeral to take a piss on your grave!

You can have the last words.

Adios!!Parrot, mongers are more likely to be ripped off, robbed, beaten, etc. By the low end providers (and their pimps) that you and others frequent, not the well reviewed professionals many of us visit. Your 'old simp' argument makes no sense. If mongers would stop seeing these low end ladies they would be forced out of this business and most mongers would benefit. You have something to add to this forum. However your hatred towards those with more money to spend than you not only damages your credibility but exposes your instability, to say the least. The money I spend on this hobby is a tiny piece of my budget. Price is not the first factor many of us consider when searching for a provider. Get over it. I've been in this game for decades. I neither need nor want your 'advice'. Many of your comments add nothing to this great forum. And that's a fact. I wish you good luck.

[Bunnery Sgt]

Parrot, mongers are more likely to be ripped off, robbed, beaten, etc. By the low end providers (and their pimps) that you and others frequent, not the well reviewed professionals many of us visit. Your 'old simp' argument makes no sense. If mongers would stop seeing these low end ladies they would be forced out of this business and most mongers would benefit. You have something to add to this forum. However your hatred towards those with more money to spend than you not only damages your credibility but exposes your instability, to say the least. The money I spend on this hobby is a tiny piece of my budget. Price is not the first factor many of us consider when searching for a provider. Get over it. I've been in this game for decades. I neither need nor want your 'advice'. Many of your comments add nothing to this great forum. And that's a fact. I wish you good luck."I'm rich and you guys are jealous" we get it. No need to keep saying it over and over in every post you make.

[The Parrot]

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The reason your post went up and came down is because we have a few new moderators and they are learning.
Your post wasn't just about race, it was a resitation of every tired racial stereotype I've ever seen. You are not being persecuted, you are treated like a child because often you act like one.

This post would be an example of that so I'm in essence sending you to your room.

A2

[The Parrot]

Parrot, mongers are more likely to be ripped off, robbed, beaten, etc. By the low end providers (and their pimps) that you and others frequent, not the well reviewed professionals many of us visit. Your 'old simp' argument makes no sense. If mongers would stop seeing these low end ladies they would be forced out of this business and most mongers would benefit. You have something to add to this forum. However your hatred towards those with more money to spend than you not only damages your credibility but exposes your instability, to say the least. The money I spend on this hobby is a tiny piece of my budget. Price is not the first factor many of us consider when searching for a provider. Get over it. I've been in this game for decades. I neither need nor want your 'advice'. Many of your comments add nothing to this great forum. And that's a fact. I wish you good luck.You are entitled to your opinion sir, however the facts remain. Also, you cannot prove that lower priced providers are more likely to rob or scam.

Also, get it through your head that I do NOT "hate" those who have more to spend.

I dislike simps, one again: I do NOT "hate" those who have more than me. Also, I am not poor / broke or uneducated, I'm just wise with my chips.

[Svtcobra]

"I'm rich and you guys are jealous" we get it. No need to keep saying it over and over in every post you make.I didn't really take it like that.

Parrot and Pete are explaining their point of views based on their own personal perspectives and life experiences.

[Pete1340]

"I'm rich and you guys are jealous" we get it. No need to keep saying it over and over in every post you make.I have no more money than the average user of this forum. The venom that Parrot and others spew here is a form of bullying and should not be tolerated. So I'm calling him out. I don't think the administrators should allow such posts. Readers of this fine forum deserve better. Now let's get back to sharing the experiences we've had in satisfying our carnal desires.

[Bunnery Sgt]

I have no more money than the average user of this forum. The venom that Parrot and others spew here is a form of bullying and should not be tolerated. So I'm calling him out. I don't think the administrators should allow such posts. Readers of this fine forum deserve better. Now let's get back to sharing the experiences we've had in satisfying our carnal desires.You are the one who referred to "class envy" as reasoning behind why some people don't agree with you. Now that it is clear to me you have no clue what that means I apologize. I can't fault someone for being ignorant.

[Pete1340]

You are the one who referred to "class envy" as reasoning behind why some people don't agree with you. Now that it is clear to me you have no clue what that means I apologize. I can't fault someone for being ignorant.Thanks for proving my point about bullies. They are cowards. Some hide behind the internet. And thank you to all who share their experiences on this forum.

[Bunnery Sgt]

Thanks for proving my point about bullies. They are cowards. Some hide behind the internet. And thank you to all who share their experiences on this forum.Not at all. I'm just pointing out that you have absolutely no clue what you are talking about and should probably stop while you're behind.

[MrHobbyist]

Parrot, mongers are more likely to be ripped off, robbed, beaten, etc. By the low end providers (and their pimps) that you and others frequent, not the well reviewed professionals many of us visit. Your 'old simp' argument makes no sense. If mongers would stop seeing these low end ladies they would be forced out of this business and most mongers would benefit. You have something to add to this forum. However your hatred towards those with more money to spend than you not only damages your credibility but exposes your instability, to say the least. The money I spend on this hobby is a tiny piece of my budget. Price is not the first factor many of us consider when searching for a provider. Get over it. I've been in this game for decades. I neither need nor want your 'advice'. Many of your comments add nothing to this great forum. And that's a fact. I wish you good luck.You are jealous of my money ploy. Dude, I'm not impressed. I'll bet That few are impressed with your financial manhood. It's not about how much money anyone makes or doesn't make on this forum. The argument is about hobbyists setting the rate, not the provider. Believe me (or don't) I make plenty of money. I still refuse to pay double for a product than it is worth or should be worth. Don't get down on yourself though buddy. Most of us were SIMPS at one point in this game too. We just learned from our mistakes and the mistakes of others. Youll get there, don't lose hope!

[The Parrot]

Not at all. I'm just pointing out that you have absolutely no clue what you are talking about and should probably stop while you're behind.Wow, that guy is a real idiot. No one is bullying him, such pathetic behavior from a grown man.

[MrHobbyist]

I have no more money than the average user of this forum. The venom that Parrot and others spew here is a form of bullying and should not be tolerated. So I'm calling him out. I don't think the administrators should allow such posts. Readers of this fine forum deserve better. Now let's get back to sharing the experiences we've had in satisfying our carnal desires.Dude, I suggest you get back on your meds. You start a bunch of crap and when you are called on it you start hollering bully. That leads me to believe you are nuts and off your meds, or, you are just plain stupid.

[Niteluvr]

I didn't really take it like that.

Parrot and Pete are explaining their point of views based on their own personal perspectives and life experiences.Sad that both sides secretly agree on the same basics but can't find Grand Central Station.

[MrHobbyist]

I can't find anywhere else to ask this question and I'm really too lazy to search through the entire board looking for an answer that someone may know already.

Is there a way to tell how long you have been a member? I think it takes six months to get Sr. Status, but it feels like I've been on here longer than that and I'm still a regular. I certainly have enough contribution content, I've posted comments, reviews, answered questions, asked questions etc.

Is there a way to modify the username. This is the only place I've had to put a number behind my name and it just kind of irks me. I'd like to update it with one of my alternative handles that I use on other sites.

If this is inappropriate for the forum, please accept my apology in advance. If you know the answer, please either reply or send a pm.

Thanks!

[Niteluvr]

I can't find anywhere else to ask this question and I'm really too lazy to search through the entire board looking for an answer that someone may know already.

Is there a way to tell how long you have been a member? I think it takes six months to get Sr. Status, but it feels like I've been on here longer than that and I'm still a regular. I certainly have enough contribution content, I've posted comments, reviews, answered questions, asked questions etc.

Is there a way to modify the username. This is the only place I've had to put a number behind my name and it just kind of irks me. I'd like to update it with one of my alternative handles that I use on other sites.

If this is inappropriate for the forum, please accept my apology in advance. If you know the answer, please either reply or send a pm.

Thanks!Click on Front Page, then about midway down on the left menu, click on Contact Us. You'll see many choices. Click on Change User Name and fill out the rest of the info.

[MrHobbyist]

Click on Front Page, then about midway down on the left menu, click on Contact Us. You'll see many choices. Click on Change User Name and fill out the rest of the info.Thank you, I thought I would have to go through a whole process of stuff, that was really easy!

[ImBroke2]

I started to put this in the BP section but I think it belongs here. Not a review but something I notice of late. These broads advertise then you call / text them no response. Then out of the blue mid week or when you are busy they ask if you can see them. Like WTF when I wanted to empty my balls on your face no response but when I'm being a proper citizen I get texts or missed calls talking about "are you ready to see me daddy". 3 different chicks from 3 different sides of town had similar experience with, so I'm starting to think some of these chicks are slowly getting out the game and I don't see any replacement when I go and do a search, just the same other ones whove been online for years.

2 Black and 1 spanish, so I know its weird but damn, some of these chicks need to get it together and at least reply the same day. Because now I have to do a search on the number and see who it was and if I still want to be bothered with that person.

[Bunnery Sgt]

I started to put this in the BP section but I think it belongs here. Not a review but something I notice of late. These broads advertise then you call / text them no response. Then out of the blue mid week or when you are busy they ask if you can see them. Like WTF when I wanted to empty my balls on your face no response but when I'm being a proper citizen I get texts or missed calls talking about "are you ready to see me daddy". 3 different chicks from 3 different sides of town had similar experience with, so I'm starting to think some of these chicks are slowly getting out the game and I don't see any replacement when I go and do a search, just the same other ones whove been online for years.

2 Black and 1 spanish, so I know its weird but damn, some of these chicks need to get it together and at least reply the same day. Because now I have to do a search on the number and see who it was and if I still want to be bothered with that person.
I actually used to look forward to that. They NEED some cash now and will be way more willing to negotiate for just about whatever you want.

[CuriousJorge]

I actually used to look forward to that. They NEED some cash now and will be way more willing to negotiate for just about whatever you want.People are curious about you, check ya inbox.

[MrHobbyist]

I actually used to look forward to that. They NEED some cash now and will be way more willing to negotiate for just about whatever you want.I had one quite a while back in Tucker, Skittles I think was her name. She wanted a ben for hh on Saturday. When I offered 40 she got all butt hurt. On Tuesday, it was a different story, she was happy to do hh for 40. Unfortunately I only had 30 that day, so she "worked with me".

[Johnny Mapalo]

I had one quite a while back in Tucker, Skittles I think was her name. She wanted a ben for hh on Saturday. When I offered 40 she got all butt hurt. On Tuesday, it was a different story, she was happy to do hh for 40. Unfortunately I only had 30 that day, so she "worked with me".$30 for a HHR. She must have been an ex- street walker. LOL. Nice review!

[DNgelo]

Dunno about some of you but this bridge collapse really put a damper on commute times to meet with these broads (even on the weekends). In the past couple of weeks, I met a couple of providers in Marietta and Kennesaw and the commute was longer than normal. Coming near Spaghetti Junction, my transit time is 45 mins on average (where pre bridge collapse would have normally taken me 20-30 mins).

[Barrytwins]

I started to put this in the BP section but I think it belongs here. Not a review but something I notice of late. These broads advertise then you call / text them no response. Then out of the blue mid week or when you are busy they ask if you can see them. Like WTF when I wanted to empty my balls on your face no response but when I'm being a proper citizen I get texts or missed calls talking about "are you ready to see me daddy". 3 different chicks from 3 different sides of town had similar experience with, so I'm starting to think some of these chicks are slowly getting out the game and I don't see any replacement when I go and do a search, just the same other ones whove been online for years.

2 Black and 1 spanish, so I know its weird but damn, some of these chicks need to get it together and at least reply the same day. Because now I have to do a search on the number and see who it was and if I still want to be bothered with that person.I will leave text messages to providers at the end of the month, knowing the 1st is about to be here. Time to pay that rent. Greatest time of the month. I've gotten plenty of 200/ hr girls travel to me for 50/ hh because they need the money. I have two on speed dial when I can't find a new girl that are always needing help and will come over for a meal.

[WholeThang448]

I just googled that number, and a AJC article on an escort ROBBING 2 people just came up, the mugshot looked similar. The police stated that there were gunmen hiding in the bathroom while the victims were vulnerable after sex. Just a warning man, keep safe. Don't forget that shit that Brie and her drugy thug friends was pulling.I always avoid trouble, and always carry. They actually thought I was the police. They gon fuck around and get robbed tryna rob me.

[PeteAppleSeed]

That's an oxymoron


I always avoid trouble, and always carry..

[NuGuy36]

That's an oxymoron.Yup, I couldn't have said it any better myself!

[PizzlePro]

I always avoid trouble, and always carry.

That does not make sense.


They gon fuck around and get robbed tryna rob me.

No, of course. Let's upgrade the misdemeanor from seeing a provider to committing a felony by robbing the pimp trying to rob me.

Some people have a false sense of security just because they took couple of Krav Maga classes and carry a firearm. Actually, thugs have the upper hand. While you're BBFSing the girl, they'll snatch that gun, smack you upside the head and leave you butt ass naked to walk home. That's the actual reality.

[WholeThang448]

That does not make sense.

No, of course. Let's upgrade the misdemeanor from seeing a provider to committing a felony by robbing the pimp trying to rob me.

Some people have a false sense of security just because they took couple of Krav Maga classes and carry a firearm. Actually, thugs have the upper hand. While you're BBFSing the girl, they'll snatch that gun, smack you upside the head and leave you butt ass naked to walk home. That's the actual reality.It's not going to even get that far. I know what I said is a oxymoron. I always check the whole room. Once I see nobody's there I make sure I'm facing the door at all times. Now If someone wants to run in armed 9/10 I'm going to shoot them. I only carry my compact, 98% of the time they don't see it. I always fold my jeans a specific way so I can get to it. I don't trust any of these chics. Dudes who get robbed obviously don't check everything. I've had two situations where the chic either didn't want me to check the bathroom / closet or make an excuse about a dog. I always stay near door when asking. Once they refuse, I leave.

[WholeThang448]

That does not make sense.

No, of course. Let's upgrade the misdemeanor from seeing a provider to committing a felony by robbing the pimp trying to rob me.

Some people have a false sense of security just because they took couple of Krav Maga classes and carry a firearm. Actually, thugs have the upper hand. While you're BBFSing the girl, they'll snatch that gun, smack you upside the head and leave you butt ass naked to walk home. That's the actual reality.I've been in that situation with the fake thug robber. Dumb part was it happened at a residence. I just took the weapon / money and left. This was a regular chick from a strip club. You really think they're going to call the police and say they got robbed trying to rob? It's never my intentions but shit happens.

[Driatic]

That does not make sense.



No, of course. Let's upgrade the misdemeanor from seeing a provider to committing a felony by robbing the pimp trying to rob me.

Some people have a false sense of security just because they took couple of Krav Maga classes and carry a firearm. Actually, thugs have the upper hand. While you're BBFSing the girl, they'll snatch that gun, smack you upside the head and leave you butt ass naked to walk home. That's the actual reality.People really think a firearm is what'll keep you safe. I hope this doesn't turn into a debate, I'm only here so that I can be safe and others can too. So We don't get robbed but also so we don't have to shoot anyone.

While I'm here, Candace wouldn't do BBBJ for me, rubbed me the wrong way specially after seeing so many of you got it. Maybe she'll be more comfortable but if anyone has a girl that's not going to rob me, in norcross (LOL) that does BBBJ PM me. I'm not interested in BFFS, that's another loaded gun.

[The Parrot]

People really think a firearm is what'll keep you safe. I hope this doesn't turn into a debate, I'm only here so that I can be safe and others can too. So We don't get robbed but also so we don't have to shoot anyone.

While I'm here, Candace wouldn't do BBBJ for me, rubbed me the wrong way specially after seeing so many of you got it. Maybe she'll be more comfortable but if anyone has a girl that's not going to rob me, in norcross (LOL) that does BBBJ PM me. I'm not interested in BFFS, that's another loaded gun.Well a "debate" on such a serious and REAL issue is inevitable in my mind.

It all boils down to your "heart" and who you really are inside. When fight or flight instincts kick in, are you more geared to run or fight?

The pimp doesn't always have the upper hand, and many of them are slow / mildly or just boneheads! They are just as susceptible to being harmed as their supposed "victim."

That's part of why they pick their victims wisely.

No "fill in the blank" type of guys.

No young guys.

I love old men!

The pimp is only human and definitely NOT bulletproof. He can be shot, or he could meet his match (someone bigger / stronger or more ferocious).

I've been underestimated by handlers before on a few occasions. I always came out on top, I kept my donation and didn't take crap from those wannabe tough guys.

I'm in rough areas like Glenwood and the infamous red Notel (where many murders have occurred) all the time, just about every day.

I've learned how to survive in shady areas like: Glenwood, candler and old national.

It's all about how you carry yourself also. If you look like a "mark" it's like the pimp smells blood.

Nice guys finish last, but it is what it is. Any handler who pulls a hammer on me, better use it and make sure I'm completely dead.

I rather be judged by 12, than carried by 6.

[NuGuy36]

People really think a firearm is what'll keep you safe. I hope this doesn't turn into a debate, I'm only here so that I can be safe and others can too. So We don't get robbed but also so we don't have to shoot anyone.

While I'm here, Candace wouldn't do BBBJ for me, rubbed me the wrong way specially after seeing so many of you got it. Maybe she'll be more comfortable but if anyone has a girl that's not going to rob me, in norcross (LOL) that does BBBJ PM me. I'm not interested in BFFS, that's another loaded gun.Hey Driatic check your mail!

[PeteAppleSeed]

This is the BBBJ & BBFS tread so why don't you please stop and go create a new "Guns" tread so you continue to boast about your self defense, conceal carry, "staying safe", 2nd amendment, cowboy BULLSHIT! (with all due respect).

[PeteAppleSeed]

Here's a list of names that providers have overused and should be retired.

Feel free to add more.

Chyna.

China.

_doll.

_girl.

_gurl.

Snow.

Chanel.

Lexi.

Sexy_.

Lexxi.

Alexis.

Alexa.

White.

Chocolate.

Bunny.

Diamond.

Love.

_love.

Jenny.

_drops.

Mocha.

Sky.

Skye.

Jade.

Jada.

Brooke.

Nicole.

Mia.

Kim.

_barbie.

Sugar.

Honey.

Cookie.

Bree.

Brie.

[MrHobbyist]

People really think a firearm is what'll keep you safe. I hope this doesn't turn into a debate, I'm only here so that I can be safe and others can too. So We don't get robbed but also so we don't have to shoot anyone.

While I'm here, Candace wouldn't do BBBJ for me, rubbed me the wrong way specially after seeing so many of you got it. Maybe she'll be more comfortable but if anyone has a girl that's not going to rob me, in norcross (LOL) that does BBBJ PM me. I'm not interested in BFFS, that's another loaded gun.This topic is so old. Doesn't anyone get bored with the back and forth?

Here are my thoughts.

[MrHobbyist]

Here's a list of names that providers have overused and should be retired.

Feel free to add more.

Candy, Kandy and all variations thereof, Brittany, anything that rhymes with sexy, and of course, royalty (princess and queen).

[Niteluvr]

Dunno about some of you but this bridge collapse really put a damper on commute times to meet with these broads (even on the weekends). In the past couple of weeks, I met a couple of providers in Marietta and Kennesaw and the commute was longer than normal. Coming near Spaghetti Junction, my transit time is 45 mins on average (where pre bridge collapse would have normally taken me 20-30 mins).For me the opposite. It trimmed 15 minutes off my commute. Sadly, it's back open.

[EastRendezvous]

This was mainly inspired by a message I just read from the I Luv Email user trying to call out Johnny for telling jokes, along with months of observing nonsense on this site. Some of you "men" on this board are so ridiculously catty its embarrassing. You act like a man but you don't have enough testosterone to let banter be banter. To me its a microcosm of state of affairs in the western world so many b*h boys running around infected with high levels of estrogen. Add to all the crap I've seen all these months with the bickering back and forth about who pays how much and the topic of judging other guys for fucking with ugly providers bc their service is top notch LOL its just so stupid.

One more thing I'm not older or pretend to know everything in life but let me disrupt the mindset of some of you simps real quick. Only a few guys on this board have the game understood or even play the game to their advantage and you can tell. Many of you are rly paying for pussy while a select few of us are paying these women to go away. Some of you enjoy the non sexual company of a wh* I won't pretend to understand why or how but whatever. Then some of you are so desperate for a womans company and it reflects in how much resources and safety you're willing to risk to experience the company of a woman. The fundamental difference will be, and Bunnery alluded to it a few days ago, if you can actually pull women you will not overextend resources or take high risks to deal with these sluts of BP and you will know if you have any real life experience that by and large the hotter the chick the worse the sex is.

This might've been a little scatter brained but that's why they call it a rant LOL. Rant over.

[Admin2]

I always avoid trouble, and always carry. They actually thought I was the police. They gon fuck around and get robbed tryna rob me.You say you carry to stay safe, yet the report you quoted said that the person came out of the bathroom and robbed them just after they finished having sex when they were most vulnerable.

So what you're saying is you're strapped during sex? Don't you find that wearing a pistol while fucking is difficult?

[Johnny Mapalo]

Rants and Raves session is now in order. LOL. Where shall we start now.

1. Everyone has their own price scale or ceiling that they're willing to pay for a certain chic that they fancy. For me, I'm willing to pay an $80 qv for a hot chic, or at least one that I think is hot, if she is in a nice hotel like say Buckhead or Perimeter area or such. Even if everything is covered. Anything more than $80 qv is stretching it. The times I paid $100 or better to any of these chics, the service was terrible or average at best. When your paying $80,$100, $60 or whatever, you got to realize that your only paying for a "nut". If you think a chic is worth $50, $80 whatever to "buss a nut" then so be it.

Be willing to suffer the consequences though if the chic is a rob, she gives half assed service or whatever. I go into this thing willing to pay a certain price point based on what the chic looks like and where she's located. Quite a few times, I went beyond my price point, just to see if this chic was worth a damn and most of the time I was disappointed like a mother. Most of these backpage chics are really $50 chics at best. Some will try to hit you with a high ball price of $80-$100 for a qv, but they can easily be negotiated down to $40-$60. Some even lower depending on how desperate they are. I see absolutely nothing wrong with negotiating or low-balling these chics off their original price.

Most of these chics will give you a high ball price at first to see if you'll bite on it, but will eagerly negotiate a lower rate. Its just like a person listing their car for sale for $4000, but they really want to let it go for $3000. They're just throwing a high figure around at first to see if anyone will bite on it. Just like most of these chics are doing. The more you give these chics, does not equal to better service. If you believe so, then your a fool. Your basically only paying for a nut. That's it. If your stupid enough to pay a chic $200 for an hour and think your going to be ramming it home for a straight hour, multi-pop your fooling yourself. The most your going to get is 15-20 minutes before the chic starts complaining and rushing you to finish.

Remember. Your only paying for a nut! If your a 15 minutes or less guy, like myself, then a quickie qv session is the smartest way to go. Some people laugh at me for only doing quickies, but I laugh back at them because I know these broads better than them. You go ahead and pay $100 to these broads and see if you get a full 30 minutes or overnight. You'll be lucky to get more than 20 minutes before the chic starts bishing and complaining for you to finish. Only pay for whatever time it will take you to get a nut. If it takes your 30 minutes to get a nut, then do the 30 minute session, but don't be surprised if she starts rushing you out after 15-20 minutes.

The chics I'm talking about are these regular / unreviewed flighty backpage chics. Not the well-reviewed $200-$300 escorts. That's a different story. Their reviews speak for themselves. These other chics you see on backpage that are here today, gone tomorrow are only looking for a quick buck. Negotiating with those chics should be the norm. They're only looking for a fast buck and trying to turn as many tricks as possible. These people are not looking for any regulars and do not care if you never return again. They're trying to get as many guys in and out of their rooms as possible. Negotiating with these chics is acceptable. They only want you to get a nut and leave.

2. If a chic is working out of a cheap motel in a cheap neighborhood, that should tell you a lot about a chic. Especially if she has a high price in a cheap neighborhood. Just like Black Cherry for example. That chic has been living in the hood since Clinton was president and she's still selling ass for $100 flat rate. She put on a shit load of weight yet still think she's the shit and charges $100 flat rate. Why? Because she knows stupid horny tricks will still pay it. She needs not lower her rates or change her attitude, because she knows stupid horny tricks will still come. She may not get as many customers as she used to, but she still gets some none-the-less. She doesn't even have the respect enough to get a decent place to work out of as she's showing customers that she has absolutely no respect for them.

She flakes on customers on the regular, slings nasty attitudes, works out of a cheap ghetto apartment, overweight like a mother, and still charges $100. Why? Because stupid horny tricks will still come anyways. If your ok with still shelling out $100 knowing what your getting, then so be it. You got to know that all your getting is 1 nut and that's it. Nothing else. That's all these chics are all about. Getting you a nut and getting you out of there, asap. Most of these chics like I said before are $50 chics at best. Every now and then you may find an anomaly, like a nice bodied chic working out of a cheap motel for a cheap price, but that's more of an exception than the rule.

I've realized that most of those unreviewed / high dollar "providers" on backpage are usually some of the worse performance. Most of those chics are more of a weed head and alcoholic than a chic in the hood. I can't count how many times I've walked into a condo in buckhead or an 5 star hotel in Dunwoody and the room is stink of weed. The chic is standing before me with her eyes half way closed and just a smiling. You know she's high as a fucking kite in her nice condo in Buckhead that her parents are paying for while she's supposed to be going to school.

These chics are usually $80-$100 in qv and they are some of the worse performances. No oral, every thing covered, only 1 position and they're constantly looking over at their phone for missed calls during the session. Their service is usually a $50 service at best, but they stay in nice high end houses / hotels. Yes, these chics look good, but their service is crap. Your not getting any mileage with these chics. Your getting a covered hand job and go in and your back on the high way 10 minutes later. Multi-pop. Yeah right! Get your nut and get out is the norm.

With the chics in the hood, you at least get more bang for the buck as they are more desperate for the dollars. The only thing though, you got to watch out for pimps lurking around, bad hygiene, ghetto attitude, rushed service. If you can get pass all of that, LOL, then you should be good to go. Pick your poison with these chics. Do you want a good looking chic in Buckhead for $100 qv, nice hotel, good hygiene, all-covered, hand job and go in or would you prefer 40 qv, roach motel, suspect hygiene, bare head or bare everything if your mouth and money right, maybe pimp lurking around, etc. There are pros and cons with all this shit. Some guys prefer laying there head back without worrying if the thugs outside are breaking into their car while their getting a covered hand job in Buckhead and others value a good all-bare $40 qv from Boqueisha on Old National with all kinds of suspect people lurking outside.

It all boils down on what you value, how much your willing to spend, what your looking for out of a session, etc. Most of these backpage chics are overpriced though. They only throw out these figures because that's what they think they are worth. Just because she places $100 qv in her ad, that doesn't mean that your going to get a $100 qv service. These chics are into getting you a nut and getting you out of there, asap. Remember that before you go paying $100 qv or any other ridiculous prices that she gives you.

[NuGuy36]

Yep, this ought to be required reading for all newbies. I couldn't have said it any better myself.


Rants and Raves session is now in order. LOL. Where shall we start now.

1. Everyone has their own price scale or ceiling that they're willing to pay for a certain chic that they fancy. For me, I'm willing to pay an $80 qv for a hot chic, or at least one that I think is hot, if she is in a nice hotel like say Buckhead or Perimeter area or such. Even if everything is covered. Anything more than $80 qv is stretching it. The times I paid $100 or better to any of these chics, the service was terrible or average at best. When your paying $80,$100, $60 or whatever, you got to realize that your only paying for a "nut". If you think a chic is worth $50, $80 whatever to "buss a nut" then so be it.

Be willing to suffer the consequences though if the chic is a rob, she gives half assed service or whatever. I go into this thing willing to pay a certain price point based on what the chic looks like and where she's located. Quite a few times, I went beyond my price point, just to see if this chic was worth a damn and most of the time I was disappointed like a mother. Most of these backpage chics are really $50 chics at best. Some will try to hit you with a high ball price of $80-$100 for a qv, but they can easily be negotiated down to $40-$60. Some even lower depending on how desperate they are. I see absolutely nothing wrong with negotiating or low-balling these chics off their original price.

Most of these chics will give you a high ball price at first to see if you'll bite on it, but will eagerly negotiate a lower rate. Its just like a person listing their car for sale for $4000, but they really want to let it go for $3000. They're just throwing a high figure around at first to see if anyone will bite on it. Just like most of these chics are doing. The more you give these chics, does not equal to better service. If you believe so, then your a fool. Your basically only paying for a nut. That's it. If your stupid enough to pay a chic $200 for an hour and think your going to be ramming it home for a straight hour, multi-pop your fooling yourself. The most your going to get is 15-20 minutes before the chic starts complaining and rushing you to finish.

Remember. Your only paying for a nut! If your a 15 minutes or less guy, like myself, then a quickie qv session is the smartest way to go. Some people laugh at me for only doing quickies, but I laugh back at them because I know these broads better than them. You go ahead and pay $100 to these broads and see if you get a full 30 minutes or overnight. You'll be lucky to get more than 20 minutes before the chic starts bishing and complaining for you to finish. Only pay for whatever time it will take you to get a nut. If it takes your 30 minutes to get a nut, then do the 30 minute session, but don't be surprised if she starts rushing you out after 15-20 minutes.

The chics I'm talking about are these regular / unreviewed flighty backpage chics. Not the well-reviewed $200-$300 escorts. That's a different story. Their reviews speak for themselves. These other chics you see on backpage that are here today, gone tomorrow are only looking for a quick buck. Negotiating with those chics should be the norm. They're only looking for a fast buck and trying to turn as many tricks as possible. These people are not looking for any regulars and do not care if you never return again. They're trying to get as many guys in and out of their rooms as possible. Negotiating with these chics is acceptable. They only want you to get a nut and leave.

2. If a chic is working out of a cheap motel in a cheap neighborhood, that should tell you a lot about a chic. Especially if she has a high price in a cheap neighborhood. Just like Black Cherry for example. That chic has been living in the hood since Clinton was president and she's still selling ass for $100 flat rate. She put on a shit load of weight yet still think she's the shit and charges $100 flat rate. Why? Because she knows stupid horny tricks will still pay it. She needs not lower her rates or change her attitude, because she knows stupid horny tricks will still come. She may not get as many customers as she used to, but she still gets some none-the-less. She doesn't even have the respect enough to get a decent place to work out of as she's showing customers that she has absolutely no respect for them.

She flakes on customers on the regular, slings nasty attitudes, works out of a cheap ghetto apartment, overweight like a mother, and still charges $100. Why? Because stupid horny tricks will still come anyways. If your ok with still shelling out $100 knowing what your getting, then so be it. You got to know that all your getting is 1 nut and that's it. Nothing else. That's all these chics are all about. Getting you a nut and getting you out of there, asap. Most of these chics like I said before are $50 chics at best. Every now and then you may find an anomaly, like a nice bodied chic working out of a cheap motel for a cheap price, but that's more of an exception than the rule.

I've realized that most of those unreviewed / high dollar "providers" on backpage are usually some of the worse performance. Most of those chics are more of a weed head and alcoholic than a chic in the hood. I can't count how many times I've walked into a condo in buckhead or an 5 star hotel in Dunwoody and the room is stink of weed. The chic is standing before me with her eyes half way closed and just a smiling. You know she's high as a fucking kite in her nice condo in Buckhead that her parents are paying for while she's supposed to be going to school.

These chics are usually $80-$100 in qv and they are some of the worse performances. No oral, every thing covered, only 1 position and they're constantly looking over at their phone for missed calls during the session. Their service is usually a $50 service at best, but they stay in nice high end houses / hotels. Yes, these chics look good, but their service is crap. Your not getting any mileage with these chics. Your getting a covered hand job and go in and your back on the high way 10 minutes later. Multi-pop. Yeah right! Get your nut and get out is the norm.

With the chics in the hood, you at least get more bang for the buck as they are more desperate for the dollars. The only thing though, you got to watch out for pimps lurking around, bad hygiene, ghetto attitude, rushed service. If you can get pass all of that, LOL, then you should be good to go. Pick your poison with these chics. Do you want a good looking chic in Buckhead for $100 qv, nice hotel, good hygiene, all-covered, hand job and go in or would you prefer 40 qv, roach motel, suspect hygiene, bare head or bare everything if your mouth and money right, maybe pimp lurking around, etc. There are pros and cons with all this shit. Some guys prefer laying there head back without worrying if the thugs outside are breaking into their car while their getting a covered hand job in Buckhead and others value a good all-bare $40 qv from Boqueisha on Old National with all kinds of suspect people lurking outside.

It all boils down on what you value, how much your willing to spend, what your looking for out of a session, etc. Most of these backpage chics are overpriced though. They only throw out these figures because that's what they think they are worth. Just because she places $100 qv in her ad, that doesn't mean that your going to get a $100 qv service. These chics are into getting you a nut and getting you out of there, asap. Remember that before you go paying $100 qv or any other ridiculous prices that she gives you.

[NuGuy36]

Newbies, this is a treasure trove of good info. IMHO, BackPage has now gone to hell in a handbasket, with scamsters seeking to make a quick buck off desperate hobbyists. This is why we must post our experiences, good or bad, to help other hobbyists.


Rants and Raves session is now in order. LOL. Where shall we start now.

1. Everyone has their own price scale or ceiling that they're willing to pay for a certain chic that they fancy. For me, I'm willing to pay an $80 qv for a hot chic, or at least one that I think is hot, if she is in a nice hotel like say Buckhead or Perimeter area or such. Even if everything is covered. Anything more than $80 qv is stretching it. The times I paid $100 or better to any of these chics, the service was terrible or average at best. When your paying $80,$100, $60 or whatever, you got to realize that your only paying for a "nut". If you think a chic is worth $50, $80 whatever to "buss a nut" then so be it.

Be willing to suffer the consequences though if the chic is a rob, she gives half assed service or whatever. I go into this thing willing to pay a certain price point based on what the chic looks like and where she's located. Quite a few times, I went beyond my price point, just to see if this chic was worth a damn and most of the time I was disappointed like a mother. Most of these backpage chics are really $50 chics at best. Some will try to hit you with a high ball price of $80-$100 for a qv, but they can easily be negotiated down to $40-$60. Some even lower depending on how desperate they are. I see absolutely nothing wrong with negotiating or low-balling these chics off their original price.

Most of these chics will give you a high ball price at first to see if you'll bite on it, but will eagerly negotiate a lower rate. Its just like a person listing their car for sale for $4000, but they really want to let it go for $3000. They're just throwing a high figure around at first to see if anyone will bite on it. Just like most of these chics are doing. The more you give these chics, does not equal to better service. If you believe so, then your a fool. Your basically only paying for a nut. That's it. If your stupid enough to pay a chic $200 for an hour and think your going to be ramming it home for a straight hour, multi-pop your fooling yourself. The most your going to get is 15-20 minutes before the chic starts complaining and rushing you to finish.

Remember. Your only paying for a nut! If your a 15 minutes or less guy, like myself, then a quickie qv session is the smartest way to go. Some people laugh at me for only doing quickies, but I laugh back at them because I know these broads better than them. You go ahead and pay $100 to these broads and see if you get a full 30 minutes or overnight. You'll be lucky to get more than 20 minutes before the chic starts bishing and complaining for you to finish. Only pay for whatever time it will take you to get a nut. If it takes your 30 minutes to get a nut, then do the 30 minute session, but don't be surprised if she starts rushing you out after 15-20 minutes.

The chics I'm talking about are these regular / unreviewed flighty backpage chics. Not the well-reviewed $200-$300 escorts. That's a different story. Their reviews speak for themselves. These other chics you see on backpage that are here today, gone tomorrow are only looking for a quick buck. Negotiating with those chics should be the norm. They're only looking for a fast buck and trying to turn as many tricks as possible. These people are not looking for any regulars and do not care if you never return again. They're trying to get as many guys in and out of their rooms as possible. Negotiating with these chics is acceptable. They only want you to get a nut and leave.

2. If a chic is working out of a cheap motel in a cheap neighborhood, that should tell you a lot about a chic. Especially if she has a high price in a cheap neighborhood. Just like Black Cherry for example. That chic has been living in the hood since Clinton was president and she's still selling ass for $100 flat rate. She put on a shit load of weight yet still think she's the shit and charges $100 flat rate. Why? Because she knows stupid horny tricks will still pay it. She needs not lower her rates or change her attitude, because she knows stupid horny tricks will still come. She may not get as many customers as she used to, but she still gets some none-the-less. She doesn't even have the respect enough to get a decent place to work out of as she's showing customers that she has absolutely no respect for them.

She flakes on customers on the regular, slings nasty attitudes, works out of a cheap ghetto apartment, overweight like a mother, and still charges $100. Why? Because stupid horny tricks will still come anyways. If your ok with still shelling out $100 knowing what your getting, then so be it. You got to know that all your getting is 1 nut and that's it. Nothing else. That's all these chics are all about. Getting you a nut and getting you out of there, asap. Most of these chics like I said before are $50 chics at best. Every now and then you may find an anomaly, like a nice bodied chic working out of a cheap motel for a cheap price, but that's more of an exception than the rule.

I've realized that most of those unreviewed / high dollar "providers" on backpage are usually some of the worse performance. Most of those chics are more of a weed head and alcoholic than a chic in the hood. I can't count how many times I've walked into a condo in buckhead or an 5 star hotel in Dunwoody and the room is stink of weed. The chic is standing before me with her eyes half way closed and just a smiling. You know she's high as a fucking kite in her nice condo in Buckhead that her parents are paying for while she's supposed to be going to school.

These chics are usually $80-$100 in qv and they are some of the worse performances. No oral, every thing covered, only 1 position and they're constantly looking over at their phone for missed calls during the session. Their service is usually a $50 service at best, but they stay in nice high end houses / hotels. Yes, these chics look good, but their service is crap. Your not getting any mileage with these chics. Your getting a covered hand job and go in and your back on the high way 10 minutes later. Multi-pop. Yeah right! Get your nut and get out is the norm.

With the chics in the hood, you at least get more bang for the buck as they are more desperate for the dollars. The only thing though, you got to watch out for pimps lurking around, bad hygiene, ghetto attitude, rushed service. If you can get pass all of that, LOL, then you should be good to go. Pick your poison with these chics. Do you want a good looking chic in Buckhead for $100 qv, nice hotel, good hygiene, all-covered, hand job and go in or would you prefer 40 qv, roach motel, suspect hygiene, bare head or bare everything if your mouth and money right, maybe pimp lurking around, etc. There are pros and cons with all this shit. Some guys prefer laying there head back without worrying if the thugs outside are breaking into their car while their getting a covered hand job in Buckhead and others value a good all-bare $40 qv from Boqueisha on Old National with all kinds of suspect people lurking outside.

It all boils down on what you value, how much your willing to spend, what your looking for out of a session, etc. Most of these backpage chics are overpriced though. They only throw out these figures because that's what they think they are worth. Just because she places $100 qv in her ad, that doesn't mean that your going to get a $100 qv service. These chics are into getting you a nut and getting you out of there, asap. Remember that before you go paying $100 qv or any other ridiculous prices that she gives you.

[I Luv Emall]

I'll respond since this is in rants and raves- what a load of condescending, contradictory horseshit.

I didn't call out Johnny for telling jokes, I called him out for telling stupid jokes. Like I said, I appreciate Johnny's reviews and do find a lot of his shit funny. I also find plenty just pointless and not funny at all (like repeatedly recommending dudes to go see tranny girls, some who just might not know better), and probably made while he's drunk. It's apparent from other posters as well that I'm not the only one that shares this opinion. And really, how many people do you know that have their own "stupid shit" thread? Johnny can do whatever he wants and I'm fine with that, and I can respond however I want. You're not going to police me anymore than I'm going to police Johnny. But after I've just had a bad session and someone makes an inane, pointless post about it, yeah I just might call it out.

Now let's be clear here, this response isn't really about Johnny at all, but more about the ignorance & hypocrisy I see in your own post. Everyone has their own opinion and is free to state it, and others are free to respond to that as they wish. Just because you don't like it doesn't make you more masculine or give you more testosterone, just because you so say based on your bubble-gum philosophy theories. By your own theory, I guess you just had too much estrogen working for you today and just couldn't let it go?

I don't give a damn about how masculine you say you are, or are not. And it's not all about the ability to pull chicks, as much as it is about the time you're willing to invest in that, and the discretion you're willing to forego in doing that. I'm willing to wager most mongers have a steady woman, and are not "desperate for a woman's company". They're paying because they like variety and they don't have time or can't put themselves in the position to be pulling civvies. I've had my share of bad sessions for sure, and I've had my share of good ones. Anyone who's been in the game can say the same, and anyone who claims otherwise is probably exaggerating. So happy for you that you're so suave and macho, and that you have it all figured out, but since you do, why don't you do us a favor and post a few reviews of those great sessions you have? Most of what I see from you is just reviews of chicks that have already been seen and recommended by others here. Since you count yourself among the "select few", why don't you do us "simps" a favor and show us how it's done?


This was mainly inspired by a message I just read from the I Luv Email user trying to call out Johnny for telling jokes, along with months of observing nonsense on this site. Some of you "men" on this board are so ridiculously catty its embarrassing. You act like a man but you don't have enough testosterone to let banter be banter. To me its a microcosm of state of affairs in the western world so many b*h boys running around infected with high levels of estrogen. Add to all the crap I've seen all these months with the bickering back and forth about who pays how much and the topic of judging other guys for fucking with ugly providers bc their service is top notch LOL its just so stupid.

One more thing I'm not older or pretend to know everything in life but let me disrupt the mindset of some of you simps real quick. Only a few guys on this board have the game understood or even play the game to their advantage and you can tell. Many of you are rly paying for pussy while a select few of us are paying these women to go away. Some of you enjoy the non sexual company of a wh* I won't pretend to understand why or how but whatever. Then some of you are so desperate for a womans company and it reflects in how much resources and safety you're willing to risk to experience the company of a woman. The fundamental difference will be, and Bunnery alluded to it a few days ago, if you can actually pull women you will not overextend resources or take high risks to deal with these sluts of BP and you will know if you have any real life experience that by and large the hotter the chick the worse the sex is.

This might've been a little scatter brained but that's why they call it a rant LOL. Rant over.

[PeteAppleSeed]

And how could we forget, Cristal, Christal, Chrystal, Somethingcash or Kash.


Candy, Kandy and all variations thereof, Brittany, anything that rhymes with sexy, and of course, royalty (princess and queen).

[MrHobbyist]

Rants and Raves session is now in order. LOL. Where shall we start now.

1. Everyone has their own price scale or ceiling that they're willing to pay for a certain chic that they fancy. For me, I'm willing to pay an $80 qv for a hot chic, or at least one that I think is hot, if she is in a nice hotel like say Buckhead or Perimeter area or such. Even if everything is covered. Anything more than $80 qv is stretching it. The times I paid $100 or better to any of these chics, the service was terrible or average at best. When your paying $80,$100, $60 or whatever, you got to realize that your only paying for a "nut". If you think a chic is worth $50, $80 whatever to "buss a nut" then so be it.

2. If a chic is working out of a cheap motel in a cheap neighborhood, that should tell you a lot about a chic. Especially if she has a high price in a cheap neighborhood. Just like Black Cherry for example. That chic has been living in the hood since Clinton was president and she's still selling ass for $100 flat rate. She put on a shit load of weight yet still think she's the shit and charges $100 flat rate. Why? Because she knows stupid horny tricks will still pay it. She needs not lower her rates or change her attitude, because she knows stupid horny tricks will still come. She may not get as many customers as she used to, but she still gets some none-the-less. She doesn't even have the respect enough to get a decent place to work out of as she's showing customers that she has absolutely no respect for them.

Well said, well spoken! Here are a few more.

3. Have a little game. Even the "no negotiation" chicks will come down 20 or 40 if you come at them right. We are not paying for a girlfriend, we are paying for a nut, and then to leave without any emotional ties. Most of us can get pussy, that's not the point. Hell more than half of us are married. Treat them with a bit of respect and don't come off like a desperate simp and they will drop them panties for a whole lot less than their asking price. Most of them set their prices for simps based on what others are charging (and getting apparently).

4. Service is relative. Don't expect a GFE for 40 bucks. For me, I expect to be the focus of her attention for my 15 minutes and for them to pretend to be in to it. Nothing more, nothing less. If you expect more, you may be disappointed. If you pay more and expect less. Google SIMP.

5. Have some self respect. If you want to be treated like a punk and taken advantage of, don't ruin it for the rest of us by making them think they have 100 Pu**why. Go find an S&M mistress and do it right. I understand Luba will treat you right.

[DNgelo]

For me the opposite. It trimmed 15 minutes off my commute. Sadly, it's back open.Funny enough, I ended up meeting one off Austell midweek and the commute was not bad at all. Either way, 285/75 really not my preferred area just due to too many bottlenecks in traffic.

[Allen981]

Well said, well spoken! Here are a few more.

3. Have a little game. Even the "no negotiation" chicks will come down 20 or 40 if you come at them right. We are not paying for a girlfriend, we are paying for a nut, and then to leave without any emotional ties. Most of us can get pussy, that's not the point. Hell more than half of us are married. Treat them with a bit of respect and don't come off like a desperate simp and they will drop them panties for a whole lot less than their asking price. Most of them set their prices for simps based on what others are charging (and getting apparently).

4. Service is relative. Don't expect a GFE for 40 bucks. For me, I expect to be the focus of her attention for my 15 minutes and for them to pretend to be in to it. Nothing more, nothing less. If you expect more, you may be disappointed. If you pay more and expect less. Google SIMP.

5. Have some self respect. If you want to be treated like a punk and taken advantage of, don't ruin it for the rest of us by making them think they have 100 Pu**why. Go find an S&M mistress and do it right. I understand Luba will treat you right.If all that matters is a warm mouth, get yourself a blow up doll and put it in the microwave. You'll save even more money.

Said facetiously, of course, but why do others have to badger everyone on this board with their sense of what's right and wrong in going about this hobby?

Just leave it alone.

[ReaperGuy]

If all that matters is a warm mouth, get yourself a blow up doll and put it in the microwave. You'll save even more money.

Said facetiously, of course, but why do others have to badger everyone on this board with their sense of what's right and wrong in going about this hobby?

Just leave it alone.I read the board almost daily, but I rarely post as I don't hobby very often at all. It's pretty ridiculous how many people just can't let shit go and just *have* to post. Frankly I wish A2 would just delete any post that focuses on people paying too much, being 'simps', etc. I really do not give a shit about anyone here's opinions, I just read it for the reports and tips on the hobby. The arguing over dumb things takes away from the board a lot, especially when the usual dipshits decide to double down and the spam goes on for pages until A2 finally gets around to hauling it to the dumpster.

[The Parrot]

If all that matters is a warm mouth, get yourself a blow up doll and put it in the microwave. You'll save even more money.

Said facetiously, of course, but why do others have to badger everyone on this board with their sense of what's right and wrong in going about this hobby?

Just leave it alone.LOL, I don't think a blow up doll can Bob it's head up and down, and swirl it's tounge around your head.

Then again this is 2017, it may exist in Japan somewhere.

[MrHobbyist]

If all that matters is a warm mouth, get yourself a blow up doll and put it in the microwave. You'll save even more money.

Said facetiously, of course, but why do others have to badger everyone on this board with their sense of what's right and wrong in going about this hobby?

Just leave it alone.And there you have it. Rants and Raves. What is a rant and rave. I suppose it would be someone going on about something they believe to be true while being emotionally invested in the subject. I'm sure someone can google it and find a bunch of different definitions. I like mine. So, in the hopes of not badgering anyone, I submit that we should be able to use a "rants and raves" forum for exactly the purpose of expressing opinions we feel strongly about and believe to be true. Those with differing opinions can use the rants and rave forum for the same reason. In the immortal words of the great sage and philosopher Snoop Dogg, "I got my mind on my money and my money on my mind".

-- End rant, rave beginning in 5. 4. 3. 2.

[The Parrot]

And there you have it. Rants and Raves. What is a rant and rave. I suppose it would be someone going on about something they believe to be true while being emotionally invested in the subject. I'm sure someone can google it and find a bunch of different definitions. I like mine. So, in the hopes of not badgering anyone, I submit that we should be able to use a "rants and raves" forum for exactly the purpose of expressing opinions we feel strongly about and believe to be true. Those with differing opinions can use the rants and rave forum for the same reason. In the immortal words of the great sage and philosopher Snoop Dogg, "I got my mind on my money and my money on my mind".

-- End rant, rave beginning in 5. 4. 3. 2.Yes sir, that is pure logic right there.

It's funny how most of the butt-hurt simps have phds and advanced degrees; yet they can't use simple logic.

Don't waste too much energy arguing back and forth with those educated idiots.

Common Sense 101.

[MoonshineXXX]

OK. I already know the answer to this rant, but I need to get it off my chest.

So I don't live in Atlanta but I travel there frequently and it's my favorite playground.

I like to plan my fun in advance and I like to keep a line of regulars of different flavors and talents. Of course, the line needs to be replenished now in then.

I'm professional, clean and not cheap. I search for great service, I recognize quality when I find it, and I reward it.

But when I reach out to promising talent and I lay out the above, often it's crickets. That's fine, because it helps to weed out the trash. BUT, for the life of me, I don't get it. Girl selling 3 holes for 120 an hour, struggling to make bills, living hand to mouth, and she passes up a paycheck because it's two weeks out. WTF? Stupid.

But I don't argue or beg. I just yell NEXT. Then I wait for the hidden gem.

Thanks to all for contributing to the site.

[Svtcobra]

OK. I already know the answer to this rant, but I need to get it off my chest.

So I don't live in Atlanta but I travel there frequently and it's my favorite playground.

I like to plan my fun in advance and I like to keep a line of regulars of different flavors and talents. Of course, the line needs to be replenished now in then.

I'm professional, clean and not cheap. I search for great service, I recognize quality when I find it, and I reward it.

But when I reach out to promising talent and I lay out the above, often it's crickets. That's fine, because it helps to weed out the trash. BUT, for the life of me, I don't get it. Girl selling 3 holes for 120 an hour, struggling to make bills, living hand to mouth, and she passes up a paycheck because it's two weeks out. WTF? Stupid.

But I don't argue or beg. I just yell NEXT. Then I wait for the hidden gem.

Thanks to all for contributing to the site.A 120 an hour girl doesn't even know if she'll be alive in 2 weeks.

[Homer15]

Maybe you're looking in the wrong places? I assume BP when I hear 120 an hour. And BP has mostly gone to shit.


OK. I already know the answer to this rant, but I need to get it off my chest.

So I don't live in Atlanta but I travel there frequently and it's my favorite playground.

I like to plan my fun in advance and I like to keep a line of regulars of different flavors and talents. Of course, the line needs to be replenished now in then.

I'm professional, clean and not cheap. I search for great service, I recognize quality when I find it, and I reward it.

But when I reach out to promising talent and I lay out the above, often it's crickets. That's fine, because it helps to weed out the trash. BUT, for the life of me, I don't get it. Girl selling 3 holes for 120 an hour, struggling to make bills, living hand to mouth, and she passes up a paycheck because it's two weeks out. WTF? Stupid.

But I don't argue or beg. I just yell NEXT. Then I wait for the hidden gem.

Thanks to all for contributing to the site.

[MoonshineXXX]

Maybe you're looking in the wrong places? I assume BP when I hear 120 an hour. And BP has mostly gone to shit.You're correct.

I am active on ThE otheR site, but there aren't many fresh ones on there. And prices tend to jump dramatically. The longer the lineup, the increased need to lower the average price. LOL.

I do very well. The lack of business acumen just wows me sometimes.

[Bunnery Sgt]

OK. I already know the answer to this rant, but I need to get it off my chest.

So I don't live in Atlanta but I travel there frequently and it's my favorite playground.

I like to plan my fun in advance and I like to keep a line of regulars of different flavors and talents. Of course, the line needs to be replenished now in then.

I'm professional, clean and not cheap. I search for great service, I recognize quality when I find it, and I reward it.

But when I reach out to promising talent and I lay out the above, often it's crickets. That's fine, because it helps to weed out the trash. BUT, for the life of me, I don't get it. Girl selling 3 holes for 120 an hour, struggling to make bills, living hand to mouth, and she passes up a paycheck because it's two weeks out. WTF? Stupid.

But I don't argue or beg. I just yell NEXT. Then I wait for the hidden gem.

Thanks to all for contributing to the site.Long term LOL. These cum guzzlin pros don't think that far out. They may get moved to NC, SC, FL, NY, or who knows by then. If you want that type of 2 week advance chick you need to look at an agency. Its going to cost you about 3 $-6 $ per hour but it will fit your needs. I wouldn't hit up a BP pro more than an hour in advance if I hadn't already seen her. Realistically you could just wait until you get that urge and surf BP for a cheap pro if you aren't lazy. Use this board as a reference.

[The Parrot]

Maybe you're looking in the wrong places? I assume BP when I hear 120 an hour. And BP has mostly gone to shit.I wrote a comment earlier telling him the same thing, but my connection was acting up. So the comment never got sent.

This "man" is a walking contradiction in my eyes.

He claims to be "professional, well dressed, clean and not cheap. ".

Yet this guy is shopping on BP, it makes no sense. Take your upper echelon azz to a high-end agency or one of those 700-1000 chip private escorts.

Come on "men," get it together!

[The Parrot]

Long term LOL. These cum guzzlin pros don't think that far out. They may get moved to NC, SC, FL, NY, or who knows by then. If you want that type of 2 week advance chick you need to look at an agency. Its going to cost you about 3 $-6 $ per hour but it will fit your needs. I wouldn't hit up a BP pro more than an hour in advance if I hadn't already seen her. Realistically you could just wait until you get that urge and surf BP for a cheap pro if you aren't lazy. Use this board as a reference.Another thing his "professional and well dressed" azz doesn't realize, is that most BP chicks are NOT pros.

They are just random hoodrats, junkies, milfs, single mothers, or broke college students looking for a quick come up. Some just need their phone bill paid, etc.

Common sense 101, it's funny how SIMPS tend to make it so far in life.

Anyway, I how that "man" finds exactly what he's looking for. He just needs to look elsewhere.

[Ozymandias]

The lack of business acumen just wows me sometimes.Me too.

I used to do turnarounds: buy financially distressed companies with good contracts, slash costs and renegotiate liabilities to get them profitable, and then sell them (usually to private equity groups). There's a lot of money to be made in replacing inefficient business systems, and hoes and agencies take the cake when it comes to pairing an a product with significant market appeal (pussy) with almost comically bad customer service and stupid levels of drama; there is a MINT to be made there for someone to come in and repackage it. The thought DOES occur to me!

But it's just too much of an HR nightmare: employees who are junkies, have psycho babydaddies, in general just are misfits. No thanks!

But as Bunnery said, if you have a busy schedule and like to plan your fun in advance (I do, too), you need to look at the agency or traveling pro level, probably more in the $300 and up range.

O.

[DNgelo]

OK. I already know the answer to this rant, but I need to get it off my chest.

So I don't live in Atlanta but I travel there frequently and it's my favorite playground.

I like to plan my fun in advance and I like to keep a line of regulars of different flavors and talents. Of course, the line needs to be replenished now in then.

I'm professional, clean and not cheap. I search for great service, I recognize quality when I find it, and I reward it.

But when I reach out to promising talent and I lay out the above, often it's crickets. That's fine, because it helps to weed out the trash. BUT, for the life of me, I don't get it. Girl selling 3 holes for 120 an hour, struggling to make bills, living hand to mouth, and she passes up a paycheck because it's two weeks out. WTF? Stupid.

But I don't argue or beg. I just yell NEXT. Then I wait for the hidden gem.

Thanks to all for contributing to the site.DocRivers. Gif.

You doing it wrong Playboy. These hoes ain't got time to schedule you 2 weeks out unless you hitting up an agency which you pay a premium on. No wonder they looking at you sideways.

[MrHobbyist]

Long term LOL. These cum guzzlin pros don't think that far out. They may get moved to NC, SC, FL, NY, or who knows by then. If you want that type of 2 week advance chick you need to look at an agency. Its going to cost you about 3 $-6 $ per hour but it will fit your needs. I wouldn't hit up a BP pro more than an hour in advance if I hadn't already seen her. Realistically you could just wait until you get that urge and surf BP for a cheap pro if you aren't lazy. Use this board as a reference.There are some that are consistently available. Heather and Nina come to mind right off the top, there are others. They are not fly by night. I have not tried to schedule two weeks in advance, but I'll bet they would be willing to work with you if you come at them right. But Bunnery is right, the most reliable would be the most reliable for long term planning.

[MoonshineXXX]

There are some that are consistently available. Heather and Nina come to mind right off the top, there are others. They are not fly by night. I have not tried to schedule two weeks in advance, but I'll bet they would be willing to work with you if you come at them right. But Bunnery is right, the most reliable would be the most reliable for long term planning.Your right. I recently coordinated in advance with Heather and it worked well.

There are ladies out there who have the capacity to think ahead. These rise to the top. The others fall by the wayside.

I'm working with a young lady now for my next visit. We touch base about once per week just to verify the plan. She seems to get it (I. E, this is a guy who is cool and can bring me steady income as long as I treat him right). I think semi-intelligent women are sexy. LOL.

[BB Love]

So I had a little free time last week and I posted a craigslist ad offering no reciprocation cunnilingus. I used to run that ad back in 07-08 and had good luck picking up utr's. A lot of girls don't get eaten right and they like being able to lay back and get pleasured without having to worry about satisfying their partner. I have had good luck in the past turning these girls into F buddies. Anyway I ran the ad again and and got one promising hit by a 21 year old KSU student. She responded with her real email address and phone number and everything checked out.

So I arrive at a nice gated apartment complex of Busbee in Kennesaw and she greeted me in lingerie and high heels. She was a little thick, nice boobs, a little tummy and a big ass. Probably 5'5 150 lbs. Anyway we sit on her leather couch and she started a little small talk, are you married (lie) how old are you (lie by 10+ years) you know, the normal stuff. Then I asked if she does this often, she replied "no, never" (probably a lie) then she said, "I was just feeling like laying back and having my clit pampered for an hour or more. " WTF does Parrot have a little sister? I've been messing with chicks for over 20 years and haven't been talked to like that at first meet. So I said "cool, that's what in here for. ".

She laid back and I started kissing her cleveage, slid her lingerie to the side and caressed and licked her breasts and nipples. After about a minute she puts her hands on my head and starts pushing me down. Ok she's horny, that's cool. So I kiss down her belly to her navel and linger for a minute or two then she grabs my head and pushes me down to her clit. What evs, not much build up but it's cool.

So I start licking and sucking her clit, taking little breaks to dip down and part her lips and flick my tongue in her very wet musky pussy. She's making a wet mess of my face and the collar of my shirt and her sofa, then she grabs the back of my head and pushes me down while lifting off the couch and says "eat them groceries. " What the fuck, I have never had some chick shove her asshole in my mouth before, I mean if I want to toss some salad sometimes I will if she's hot, but this chick just shoved her butthole in my mouth. Oh well that's what I signed up for I guess. So I eat her ass and make my way back up to her pussy. Then she says, "spit on it, smack it. " Now I'm really like what the hell. These young chicks must be growing up watching bang bros porn or some shit. So I spit on it and start smacking her clit and eating her ass. I eventually make my way back up to her clit and suck on it while fingering her ass and pussy and she starts to cum, let's out a moan and I feel her orgasm clenching down on my fingers. Then her hands came down and pushed me back and she pulled back so my fingers are out of her. To cool down and head for round two I moved down from her clit and started kissing her lips and licking her juices, then she said my name, I looked up at her and she started putting her panties on. I got up, messed up hair, wet shirt, face like a glazed donut. And she just said, I'll text you. I took that as my cue to leave. I walked down the stairs to my car still pondering what the hell just happened.

I headed to a Walmart, bought another shirt, changed in the bathroom and I still smelled like pussy. I headed to a Raceway with a single occupant bathroom, took my new shirt off, and washed my face and chest with nasty sink soap. I squirted my mouth full of that nasty soap and swirled it around, and rinsed my hair. It helped but I felt like I still smelled like her ass and pussy. I got some smelly sea salt and vinegar chips and rubbed them all over my face and chewed them until my breath was super vinegary. When I got home I had to make an excuse to shower immediately. Anyway, maybe I'm done with this approach to finding new ute pussy. The question that I have is, is this common with young girls now? Talking filthy, shoving asses in mouths and such?

[Ozymandias]

So I had a little free time last week and I posted a craigslist ad offering no reciprocation cunnilingus - (Story of the Week) - The question that I have is, is this common with young girls now? Talking filthy, shoving asses in mouths and such?You know you're at an advanced level of mongering when you're rubbing your face with vinegar chips in a Racetrac bathroom!

My answer: yes, young girls are matching guys in nastiness these days: I'm astonished at some of the things the 18-20 set are into, and it's absolutely that they've never lived in a porn-free world. And let's face it: any 7 year old with an internet connection is going to "stumble upon" at LEAST nudity, if not full-on fucking.

(BTW: get a health club membership, and you'll always have a reason to arrive home freshly showered and smelling like someone else's soap.).

O.

[PeteAppleSeed]

I've been in the situation where I can get the smell of pussy off me no matter what I do. One time it was so bad I actually faked a flat tire so I would come back home all messy shirt all messed up with road grime soot and grease all over my hands super sweaty so all the clothes that I was wearing had to be trashed and I went straight to the shower.


So I had a little free time last week and I posted a craigslist ad offering no reciprocation cunnilingus. I used to run that ad back in 07-08 and had good luck picking up utr's. A lot of girls don't get eaten right and they like being able to lay back and get pleasured without having to worry about satisfying their partner. I have had good luck in the past turning these girls into F buddies. Anyway I ran the ad again and and got one promising hit by a 21 year old KSU student. She responded with her real email address and phone number and everything checked out.

So I arrive at a nice gated apartment complex of Busbee in Kennesaw and she greeted me in lingerie and high heels. She was a little thick, nice boobs, a little tummy and a big ass. Probably 5'5 150 lbs. Anyway we sit on her leather couch and she started a little small talk, are you married (lie) how old are you (lie by 10+ years) you know, the normal stuff. Then I asked if she does this often, she replied "no, never" (probably a lie) then she said, "I was just feeling like laying back and having my clit pampered for an hour or more. " WTF does Parrot have a little sister? I've been messing with chicks for over 20 years and haven't been talked to like that at first meet. So I said "cool, that's what in here for. ".

She laid back and I started kissing her cleveage, slid her lingerie to the side and caressed and licked her breasts and nipples. After about a minute she puts her hands on my head and starts pushing me down. Ok she's horny, that's cool. So I kiss down her belly to her navel and linger for a minute or two then she grabs my head and pushes me down to her clit. What evs, not much build up but it's cool.

So I start licking and sucking her clit, taking little breaks to dip down and part her lips and flick my tongue in her very wet musky pussy. She's making a wet mess of my face and the collar of my shirt and her sofa, then she grabs the back of my head and pushes me down while lifting off the couch and says "eat them groceries. " What the fuck, I have never had some chick shove her asshole in my mouth before, I mean if I want to toss some salad sometimes I will if she's hot, but this chick just shoved her butthole in my mouth. Oh well that's what I signed up for I guess. So I eat her ass and make my way back up to her pussy. Then she says, "spit on it, smack it. " Now I'm really like what the hell. These young chicks must be growing up watching bang bros porn or some shit. So I spit on it and start smacking her clit and eating her ass. I eventually make my way back up to her clit and suck on it while fingering her ass and pussy and she starts to cum, let's out a moan and I feel her orgasm clenching down on my fingers. Then her hands came down and pushed me back and she pulled back so my fingers are out of her. To cool down and head for round two I moved down from her clit and started kissing her lips and licking her juices, then she said my name, I looked up at her and she started putting her panties on. I got up, messed up hair, wet shirt, face like a glazed donut. And she just said, I'll text you. I took that as my cue to leave. I walked down the stairs to my car still pondering what the hell just happened.

I headed to a Walmart, bought another shirt, changed in the bathroom and I still smelled like pussy. I headed to a Raceway with a single occupant bathroom, took my new shirt off, and washed my face and chest with nasty sink soap. I squirted my mouth full of that nasty soap and swirled it around, and rinsed my hair. It helped but I felt like I still smelled like her ass and pussy. I got some smelly sea salt and vinegar chips and rubbed them all over my face and chewed them until my breath was super vinegary. When I got home I had to make an excuse to shower immediately. Anyway, maybe I'm done with this approach to finding new ute pussy. The question that I have is, is this common with young girls now? Talking filthy, shoving asses in mouths and such?

[Head Hunting]

So I had a little free time last week and I posted a craigslist ad offering no reciprocation cunnilingus. I used to run that ad back in 07-08 and had good luck picking up utr's. A lot of girls don't get eaten right and they like being able to lay back and get pleasured without having to worry about satisfying their partner. I have had good luck in the past turning these girls into F buddies. Anyway I ran the ad again and and got one promising hit by a 21 year old KSU student. She responded with her real email address and phone number and everything checked out.

So I arrive at a nice gated apartment complex of Busbee in Kennesaw and she greeted me in lingerie and high heels. She was a little thick, nice boobs, a little tummy and a big ass. Probably 5'5 150 lbs. Anyway we sit on her leather couch and she started a little small talk, are you married (lie) how old are you (lie by 10+ years) you know, the normal stuff. Then I asked if she does this often, she replied "no, never" (probably a lie) then she said, "I was just feeling like laying back and having my clit pampered for an hour or more. " WTF does Parrot have a little sister? I've been messing with chicks for over 20 years and haven't been talked to like that at first meet. So I said "cool, that's what in here for. ".

She laid back and I started kissing her cleveage, slid her lingerie to the side and caressed and licked her breasts and nipples. After about a minute she puts her hands on my head and starts pushing me down. Ok she's horny, that's cool. So I kiss down her belly to her navel and linger for a minute or two then she grabs my head and pushes me down to her clit. What evs, not much build up but it's cool.

So I start licking and sucking her clit, taking little breaks to dip down and part her lips and flick my tongue in her very wet musky pussy. She's making a wet mess of my face and the collar of my shirt and her sofa, then she grabs the back of my head and pushes me down while lifting off the couch and says "eat them groceries. " What the fuck, I have never had some chick shove her asshole in my mouth before, I mean if I want to toss some salad sometimes I will if she's hot, but this chick just shoved her butthole in my mouth. Oh well that's what I signed up for I guess. So I eat her ass and make my way back up to her pussy. Then she says, "spit on it, smack it. " Now I'm really like what the hell. These young chicks must be growing up watching bang bros porn or some shit. So I spit on it and start smacking her clit and eating her ass. I eventually make my way back up to her clit and suck on it while fingering her ass and pussy and she starts to cum, let's out a moan and I feel her orgasm clenching down on my fingers. Then her hands came down and pushed me back and she pulled back so my fingers are out of her. To cool down and head for round two I moved down from her clit and started kissing her lips and licking her juices, then she said my name, I looked up at her and she started putting her panties on. I got up, messed up hair, wet shirt, face like a glazed donut. And she just said, I'll text you. I took that as my cue to leave. I walked down the stairs to my car still pondering what the hell just happened.

I headed to a Walmart, bought another shirt, changed in the bathroom and I still smelled like pussy. I headed to a Raceway with a single occupant bathroom, took my new shirt off, and washed my face and chest with nasty sink soap. I squirted my mouth full of that nasty soap and swirled it around, and rinsed my hair. It helped but I felt like I still smelled like her ass and pussy. I got some smelly sea salt and vinegar chips and rubbed them all over my face and chewed them until my breath was super vinegary. When I got home I had to make an excuse to shower immediately. Anyway, maybe I'm done with this approach to finding new ute pussy. The question that I have is, is this common with young girls now? Talking filthy, shoving asses in mouths and such?This is how these women must feel after a session. Used and abused. BTW, what race was the girl?

[Svtcobra]

So I had a little free time last week and I posted a craigslist ad offering no reciprocation cunnilingus. I used to run that ad back in 07-08 and had good luck picking up utr's. A lot of girls don't get eaten right and they like being able to lay back and get pleasured without having to worry about satisfying their partner. I have had good luck in the past turning these girls into F buddies. Anyway I ran the ad again and and got one promising hit by a 21 year old KSU student. She responded with her real email address and phone number and everything checked out.

So I arrive at a nice gated apartment complex of Busbee in Kennesaw and she greeted me in lingerie and high heels. She was a little thick, nice boobs, a little tummy and a big ass. Probably 5'5 150 lbs. Anyway we sit on her leather couch and she started a little small talk, are you married (lie) how old are you (lie by 10+ years) you know, the normal stuff. Then I asked if she does this often, she replied "no, never" (probably a lie) then she said, "I was just feeling like laying back and having my clit pampered for an hour or more. " WTF does Parrot have a little sister? I've been messing with chicks for over 20 years and haven't been talked to like that at first meet. So I said "cool, that's what in here for. ".

She laid back and I started kissing her cleveage, slid her lingerie to the side and caressed and licked her breasts and nipples. After about a minute she puts her hands on my head and starts pushing me down. Ok she's horny, that's cool. So I kiss down her belly to her navel and linger for a minute or two then she grabs my head and pushes me down to her clit. What evs, not much build up but it's cool.

So I start licking and sucking her clit, taking little breaks to dip down and part her lips and flick my tongue in her very wet musky pussy. She's making a wet mess of my face and the collar of my shirt and her sofa, then she grabs the back of my head and pushes me down while lifting off the couch and says "eat them groceries. " What the fuck, I have never had some chick shove her asshole in my mouth before, I mean if I want to toss some salad sometimes I will if she's hot, but this chick just shoved her butthole in my mouth. Oh well that's what I signed up for I guess. So I eat her ass and make my way back up to her pussy. Then she says, "spit on it, smack it. " Now I'm really like what the hell. These young chicks must be growing up watching bang bros porn or some shit. So I spit on it and start smacking her clit and eating her ass. I eventually make my way back up to her clit and suck on it while fingering her ass and pussy and she starts to cum, let's out a moan and I feel her orgasm clenching down on my fingers. Then her hands came down and pushed me back and she pulled back so my fingers are out of her. To cool down and head for round two I moved down from her clit and started kissing her lips and licking her juices, then she said my name, I looked up at her and she started putting her panties on. I got up, messed up hair, wet shirt, face like a glazed donut. And she just said, I'll text you. I took that as my cue to leave. I walked down the stairs to my car still pondering what the hell just happened.

I headed to a Walmart, bought another shirt, changed in the bathroom and I still smelled like pussy. I headed to a Raceway with a single occupant bathroom, took my new shirt off, and washed my face and chest with nasty sink soap. I squirted my mouth full of that nasty soap and swirled it around, and rinsed my hair. It helped but I felt like I still smelled like her ass and pussy. I got some smelly sea salt and vinegar chips and rubbed them all over my face and chewed them until my breath was super vinegary. When I got home I had to make an excuse to shower immediately. Anyway, maybe I'm done with this approach to finding new ute pussy. The question that I have is, is this common with young girls now? Talking filthy, shoving asses in mouths and such?Great read, especially the Racetrack parts, LMAO.

[Alin Srq]

I've been in the situation where I can get the smell of pussy off me no matter what I do. One time it was so bad I actually faked a flat tire so I would come back home all messy shirt all messed up with road grime soot and grease all over my hands super sweaty so all the clothes that I was wearing had to be trashed and I went straight to the shower.Wow this takes me back, I was seeing this hot little mexican girl when I was managing a winn dixie down in fl. She got a side job cleaning condos that are being shown for sale in a new development. She would start on one end and her mother on the other and they would meet in the middle. So I hadn't seen her in a few weeks but I meet her at her condo and just have my way with her and shoot a massive load on her tits and atomach I came pretty quick since I was all backed up. She asks me to eat her out so I dive in and get to licking she must have been paying with her tits and she was pulling my hair and moving that sweet pussy all over she cums hard by this time I'm hard again and start fucking her for riund 2 and by this time I've forgotten about shooting a load on her. I'm banging away and we both cum and I'm laying top. On her catching my breath. When we hear he mothet banging on the wall and yelling what's taking her so long. We both get dressed real quick I go out the back. Now by this time I realise I'm covered in both our cum. I've got a wife at home taking care of the kids so I stop for gas and purposely get gas on my clothes to try and cover up the sex smell. Good times.

[Niteluvr]

I headed to a Raceway with a single occupant bathroom, took my new shirt off, and washed my face and chest with nasty sink soap. I squirted my mouth full of that nasty soap and swirled it around, and rinsed my hair.Gee, why not just get some mouthwash and breath mints instead of swirling that nasty soap?

[DonHomes]

I headed to a Walmart, bought another shirt, changed in the bathroom and I still smelled like pussy. I headed to a Raceway with a single occupant bathroom, took my new shirt off, and washed my face and chest with nasty sink soap. I squirted my mouth full of that nasty soap and swirled it around, and rinsed my hair. It helped but I felt like I still smelled like her ass and pussy. I got some smelly sea salt and vinegar chips and rubbed them all over my face and chewed them until my breath was super vinegary. When I got home I had to make an excuse to shower immediately. Anyway, maybe I'm done with this approach to finding new ute pussy. The question that I have is, is this common with young girls now? Talking filthy, shoving asses in mouths and such?



Was told by a guy a long time ago that had a mistress to hid the smell from his wife and works well for me, I stop at a gas station and put gas in my car. All you have to do it put a small amount on your hands or somewhere on you and you definitely smell like gas and it covers anything up. Even a small hint of it is enough to hide any odors or at least a great excuse to jump in the shower when Mama is around when you get home. It is common when I am riding my bikes and happens a lot, but well worth gallon for my car vs the consequences if the wife gets wind of it.

[Ozymandias]

While on the topic of removal of vaginal odor (what a life! I submit that, in addition to a burner phone, a critical element of monger kit should be duplicates of home toiletries (this is for the married or SO-bound mongers, obviously.).

Years ago, when I used to frequent AMPs (during their heyday), while I appreciated the whole table shower thing, I didn't like the perfumed soaps they used (which pretty much broadcast "I just showered at a chick's place".) Same with the Brazilian places, if you use their stuff for the post-fuck shower.

So I started carrying duplicates of the soaps, toothpaste, etc. Used at home.

(This is good post-strip club too, though in that case you may need a change of clothes as well).

Another good (and healthy) alternative is a health club membership, where you can hit the showers on the way home. I mean, you DID exercise!

O.

[MrHobbyist]

. And she just said, I'll text you. I took that as my cue to leave. I walked down the stairs to my car still pondering what the hell just happened.

I headed to a Walmart, bought another shirt, changed in the bathroom and I still smelled like pussy. I headed to a Raceway with a single occupant bathroom, took my new shirt off, and washed my face and chest with nasty sink soap. I squirted my mouth full of that nasty soap and swirled it around, and rinsed my hair. It helped but I felt like I still smelled like her ass and pussy. I got some smelly sea salt and vinegar chips and rubbed them all over my face and chewed them until my breath was super vinegary. When I got home I had to make an excuse to shower immediately. Anyway, maybe I'm done with this approach to finding new ute pussy. The question that I have is, is this common with young girls now? Talking filthy, shoving asses in mouths and such?I really enjoyed reading that one. Such a refreshing POV. .

[Niteluvr]

Was told by a guy a long time ago that had a mistress to hid the smell from his wife and works well for me, I stop at a gas station and put gas in my car. All you have to do it put a small amount on your hands or somewhere on you and you definitely smell like gas and it covers anything up. Even a small hint of it is enough to hide any odors or at least a great excuse to jump in the shower when Mama is around when you get home. It is common when I am riding my bikes and happens a lot, but well worth gallon for my car vs the consequences if the wife gets wind of it.This. One way that GM used to assist its mongering customers was to install the gas tank filler tube on its cars at too much of a horizontal angle, I. E, out of the license plate door. At that angle, a gas pump auto shut off didn't work and I trashed more than one set of military boots / uniform pants. The bonus was that the resulting gas spill disguised the day's mongering activities and my ex was never the wiser. Never did an Oz-type cost / benefit analysis but it kept me out of trouble.

[MrHobbyist]

These Latina girls have a few different BP ads with different pictures an different wording but the same number. I've seen these ads for months. I have called a few times, usually as soon as I say hi, they hang up. Occasionally whoever answers says call back later and hangs up. They never respond to texts and when it goes to voice mail, they never return the calls. It just doesn't make sense to spend all that time advertising but never hooking up. I can understand caution, but they don't even give you a chance to f' up. I have called from different numbers, and even a legit phone just in case they have some kind of app or burner notification.

http://atlanta.backpage.com/WomenSeekMen/latina-disponible-305-709-6691/57948428

Disponible means available, but they are certainly not!

Any ideas or experience with these girls? The more the mystery, the more I want to find out (of course).

It appears as though they are 420 friendly (🔸por la Colita me gusta mas ) or they really like the Eagles :)

[Aaron Hamlet]

These Latina girls have a few different BP ads with different pictures an different wording but the same number. I've seen these ads for months. I have called a few times, usually as soon as I say hi, they hang up. Occasionally whoever answers says call back later and hangs up. They never respond to texts and when it goes to voice mail, they never return the calls. It just doesn't make sense to spend all that time advertising but never hooking up. I can understand caution, but they don't even give you a chance to f' up. I have called from different numbers, and even a legit phone just in case they have some kind of app or burner notification.

http://atlanta.backpage.com/WomenSeekMen/latina-disponible-305-709-6691/57948428

Disponible means available, but they are certainly not!

Any ideas or experience with these girls? The more the mystery, the more I want to find out (of course).

It appears as though they are 420 friendly (🔸por la Colita me gusta mas ) or they really like the Eagles :)I'd guess they're racists and only want to deal w / Hispanics.

[HobbyMan51]

I'd guess they're racists and only want to deal w / Hispanics.I don't think that necessarily makes them racists. It's their choice after all. Last time I checked this country was still free enough for an individual to associate with whomever they wish.

[Aaron Hamlet]

I don't think that necessarily makes them racists. It's their choice after all. Last time I checked this country was still free enough for an individual to associate with whomever they wish.Ok, discriminatory, prejudice. Maybe you need to check again. Baker in ohio or somewhere didn't want to ake cake for gay couple. Baker was sued, lost case.

[HobbyMan51]

Ok, discriminatory, prejudice. Maybe you need to check again. Baker in ohio or somewhere didn't want to ake cake for gay couple. Baker was sued, lost case.I have checked, Aaron, and in principle I agree with you. But everyone who chooses not to associate with another race or sexual creed is a racist. We have taken that concept too far in this country and we are going to destroy it in time by labeling everyone who doesn't agree with us a racist.

[MrHobbyist]

I have checked, Aaron, and in principle I agree with you. But everyone who chooses not to associate with another race or sexual creed is a racist. We have taken that concept too far in this country and we are going to destroy it in time by labeling everyone who doesn't agree with us a racist.Either way, racist or not it sucks, because if the pictures are anywhere near real, they are all f'and hot!!

Incidentally, I think wanting to stay within your race and not outside of it is almost the exact definition of racist. -- just sayin.

[Niteluvr]

I have checked, Aaron, and in principle I agree with you. But everyone who chooses not to associate with another race or sexual creed is a racist. We have taken that concept too far in this country and we are going to destroy it in time by labeling everyone who doesn't agree with us a racist.Have to agree. Pure racism is usually not the case with providers as the majority just care that one's mongering money is green. When they do "discriminate" it's usually ethnocentrism (which some will confuse with pure racism) or feeling more comfortable dealing with people of one's own race, I. E. , no language barrier, cultural norms are understood, etc. The racist label is woefully overused by the politically correct crowd or those who don't get their way.

When I encounter a woman who doesn't want to see me, she's either scared I might be LE, won't be able to communicate in English or something along those lines. Either way I don't take it personally as it's her insecurity, not mine. I chalk it up to the game and move on to the next one.

[PeteAppleSeed]

Have to agree. Pure racism is usually not the case with providers as the majority just care that one's mongering money is green. When they do "discriminate" it's usually ethnocentrism (which some will confuse with pure racism) or feeling more comfortable dealing with people of one's own race, I. E. , no language barrier, cultural norms are understood, etc. The racist label is woefully overused by the politically correct crowd or those who don't get their way.

When I encounter a woman who doesn't want to see me, she's either scared I might be LE, won't be able to communicate in English or something along those lines. Either way I don't take it personally as it's her insecurity, not mine. I chalk it up to the game and move on to the next one.I lived in Texas when I was young so I had plenty of Hispanic friends in school, and this is just my opinion based on my interaction with them, yes they are racist, most Hispanics that were not born in this country think that black people are nasty and have diseases they think all Asians are Chinese and assholes, they don't even want to talk about Indians or Middle Eastern's and they think white people are all tight asses and that we are going to rat them out to the LEO or that we want special treatment for being white.

Luckily my friends from school were mostly second-generation Mexican immigrants and they were super cool but their parents and uncles where major racist assholes.

[I Luv Emall]

Please read your own post. Can't you see how your post is the near-perfect emodiment of racism? Let me paraphrase: "First-generation Hispanics are major racist assholes". Just wow. Pot, kettle, black.


I lived in Texas when I was young so I had plenty of Hispanic friends in school, and this is just my opinion based on my interaction with them, yes they are racist, most Hispanics that were not born in this country think that black people are nasty and have diseases they think all Asians are Chinese and assholes, they don't even want to talk about Indians or Middle Eastern's and they think white people are all tight asses and that we are going to rat them out to the LEO or that we want special treatment for being white.

Luckily my friends from school were mostly second-generation Mexican immigrants and they were super cool but their parents and uncles where major racist assholes.

[Atlantan]

So your long term provider texts you offering a freebie, what do you do?

Bail or hit that?

[NuGuy36]

So your long term provider texts you offering a freebie, what do you do?

Bail or hit that?What do you think?

[Walker88]

So your long term provider texts you offering a freebie, what do you do?

Bail or hit that?Does that even need to answered? LOL.

Skywalker

[Johnny Mapalo]

So your long term provider texts you offering a freebie, what do you do?

Bail or hit that?Just tell her the truth, that your gay, and you'd rather get a freebie off her daddies cock. Fugging ridiculous! I don't want a freebie. I'd rather pay.

[Niteluvr]

So your long term provider texts you offering a freebie, what do you do?

Bail or hit that?Why would you hesitate on a free fuck?

[I Luv Emall]

So your long term provider texts you offering a freebie, what do you do?

Bail or hit that?You pass, but tell her you've got a good friend that will help her out, and then give me her digits. .

[Ozymandias]

So your long term provider texts you offering a freebie, what do you do?

Bail or hit that?Unless you have some reason to think it's a set up for a long con (only you're in position to sense that or not), I can't see any reason not to enjoy free sessions. My last regular transitioned into free sessions for a few months; dozens, maybe a hundred free sessions.

(Only ONCE have I had a provider invert to where they're paying ME; not directly, but my favorite Gold Spa girl about ten years ago took us to Bali, covered tickets and everything, plus nonstop fucking during the trip. Once in a monger life experience, though who knows how many thousands I'd dropped on her in the spa!

O.

[Atlantan]

The reason to bail would be because you want to keep the relationship business like, not like a gf. If she's offering freebies, it might be that she's getting too close.

You wouldn't want a provider coming to your home maybe, if you have a significant other, or snooping around your fb, etc.

Just asking what why'all would do. Didn't think it was so obvious.

[MrHobbyist]

The reason to bail would be because you want to keep the relationship business like, not like a gf. If she's offering freebies, it might be that she's getting too close.

You wouldn't want a provider coming to your home maybe, if you have a significant other, or snooping around your fb, etc.

Just asking what why'all would do. Didn't think it was so obvious.Hit it, then mention another provider that offered something similar, if she gets all jealous, bail. But definitely hit it first.

[Ozymandias]

The reason to bail would be because you want to keep the relationship business like, not like a gf. If she's offering freebies, it might be that she's getting too close.

You wouldn't want a provider coming to your home maybe, if you have a significant other, or snooping around your fb, etc.

Just asking what why'all would do. Didn't think it was so obvious.She shouldn't be able to find your house. Actually, she shouldn't even know your name (strippers and hoes use fake names for privacy and security, which is very smart; mongers should use a monger name), should only know your burner phone number, and should only have whatever throwaway email address, etc. You might have. I don't even allow them to take a photo with me, because I know that functional face recognition AI is right around the corner, and I don't need all the hoes I banged in the past suddenly figuring out who I am.

So really, having a hoe "fall for you" and so on shouldn't pose a security threat; I've had a few girls go that route, and I enjoyed the amped up GFE service, pumping loads in every hole, etc. , but I was also in a position to ghost (is that the current term?) if needed with no possibility of repercussion.

(No, total security is not possible, and she might get a pic of, say, your license plate, but 99% of providers are going to lack access to license plate lookups and other such investigative services.).

O.

[Barrytwins]

So your long term provider texts you offering a freebie, what do you do?

Bail or hit that?It's a frequent customer card. Take it and enjoy it. Buy 10, get 1 free. Nothing wrong with that.

I wouldn't hesitate. I have one that I give 20 for a full visit. That's basically free.

[NoJudgment]

So your long term provider texts you offering a freebie, what do you do?

Bail or hit that?Bring take out and a bottle of wine / booze. Fuck, eat, fuck again.

She is offering you her body for free. It is perfectly acceptable to use it (and abuse it), but have some class and offer something in return.

-nojudgment.

[Bunnery Sgt]

So your long term provider texts you offering a freebie, what do you do?

Bail or hit that?I don't get that comfortable with a chick who sells butt so I guess I'll never know. I pay them to leave.

[Johnny Mapalo]

This is ridiculous. A few things I wanted to touch on. This has got to be the only hobby / job / service industry where the workers do not get any better. How can you be on backpage selling ass for 5 plus years and can't even suck a fucking cock?? You done had about 5,000 cocks in your mouth and your still using teeth? Freaking ridiculous. How the hell can these people be so sorry after all those years of practice. Like, what the fuck are they doing with all that experience. These are the most laziest backwards non-progressive people that I've ever seen in my life. It seems as if they get worse as time progresses.

I saw a chic who's been reviewed on backpage for 4 years now, use coconut oil for lube. WTF?? Are you fucking retarded? Chic didn't even have any condoms to begin with. When I got there, she asked if I wanted just oral or full service. When I said full service, she said, "hold up I got to go to the bathroom and wash first". WTF!! Are you retarded? Did you plan on not washing if I wasn't doing full service? It's like jumping in the shower and washing your ass is an option to these chics. Why would you not wash if a guy was coming for oral only? Were you planning on keeping your clothes on during the oral so the guy doesn't smell the funk from you body?

Then the same chic was dry as a biscuit and stopped me during mid-session to lube up with coconut oil. What a stupid mother sucka!! You've been in the business for over 4 years now and don't know not to use any type of oil for lube? The condom ending up breaking and she asked me how did I happen? What? I had to explain to her that coconut oil is not lube and should not be substituted for lube as it will cause the condom to break. She didn't seem to even know that and thought it was my "cheap" condom that broke. I mean how could you not know this from 4 plus years of taking cock. Like, what are these people doing with all this first hand experience.

Like how can a fucking chic at an AMP not know how to give a hand job when she's been giving hand jobs and working at the AMP for the past umpteen. Like, how many fucking cocks do you need to yank on before you can get it right. Do you not realize that you have to slow it down when you see a guy biting on his tongue and clenching the fucking sides of the massage table as you try to separate his cock from his fucking balls. Like what the hell is really wrong with these people. Its like they're just stuck on stupid. If you don't like your job and your not interested in what your doing, then get another fucking job!!

I'm so sick and tired of seeing these same tired ass chics posting on backpage night and day. They have shitty review after shitty review and continue to flood the boards with their shitty ass service. And when shit hits the fan and their shitty service gets exposed, they defer to a new alter ego with a new name and phone number and continuing with the same shitty service again. Its like nothing dawns on these fools to give better service, so you wouldn't have to keep changing your phone number every 2 weeks to stay ahead of the bad reviews. It's like these people are so fucking stupid, they don't have a clue as to how a basic service runs.

They think spamming a board with ads, trying to get as many guys in and out as quickly as possible, and just laying there like a dead fish is all a guy wants. I've had chics that dead fished me and played around on their phones the whole session, text me a few days later to let me know that they're available. I'm like, are you fucking stupid. Why would I want to see you again after that lame ass performance you gave me the last time. I had that retard, Pleasure, I recently reviewed, text me a few days ago with, "I'm available". I let her know why I wasn't coming back and she seemed to be in shock that I wasn't excited about her just laying there like a dead fish. That's just how these people are. They think guys are just happy with a woman standing infront of them. You don't really have to do anything and they will come back again is their thinking.

And that's really why alot of chics get no better and why those Asian chics in those AMPs don't get any better. They see guys coming in night and day and think those guys are content with their shitty ass service. That's why they have no incentive to get any better. Guys are steadily coming in so these retards believe their doing something good since they're still getting customers. Most guys are stupid anyways and will go to see a chic or go to an AMP although he sees the shitty reviews about them giving shitty service. How the hell can a chic get shitty review after shitty review and guys still going to see her. Some guys will even admit to seeing the shitty reviews and still go to see the chics knowing full well the chic gives shitty service.

Just cause a chic's got a nice ass or tits, this moron will still go knowing that he's going to get some shitty ass service. And this is why these broads never get any better and continue to give shitty service night and day because of you boneheads that continue too patronize their shitty service. And these Latin working houses that you see are inflated with their prices. These people are lucky that there is a such thing as backpage or the internet, if not $30-$40 max is all these people would be getting. These chics prices on the internet are over-inflated like a mother.

Without the internet, these people would only be getting $30-$40 tops and they know it. Who in their right mind is buying ass for $80 qv on the streets. If there was a working house with Latinas or any females without the internet who in their right mind would be paying $80 to buss a nut. These people would be out of business, just as fast as they got in. You even got former street walkers now on backpage with that $80 qv nonsense, knowing full well they weren't getting anymore than $15-$20 tops on the streets. On backpage, all your really paying for is looks and location. If performance and service were factored in, the rates would be $40-$50 tops. Most of these chics have $20 service.

They don't even have supplies for their jobs. No condoms, no lubes, no wipes and they want to charge $60-$80 for a qv. Gtfoh with that non-sense. Half of them don't even know how to wash their fucking ass before you get there. That's because they're nothing but some 40 dollar hoes running that con game on the internet with their inflated ass rates. Any chics on the south side should not be charging anything more than $50 for a qv. If they're charging anything more than that, they're trying to get over on you and they know it. Union City (Shannon Pkway), Old National, Forest Park, Old Dixie Hwy, Virginia Avenue- $50 tops. Anytime I paid more than $50 down that side the service was mostly terrible. When I got good or ok service, the price was at $50. $50 qv seems to be a humbling rate in my opinion.

I noticed I got better service at $50 qv than any other rate. $80-$100 qv are the chics who think their doing you a favor by offering it to you for such a low price. Usually, its just a hand job and go in with only 1 position or a position of their choosing. They usually don't get on top and just lay there until your done. Anything $80 qv or better on the south side is a definite rip off. Chic is definitely trying to get over on you. You pay that type of money on the south side, your definitely going to get shitted on. I've done it in the past and got ripped off with shitty service every time. I also noticed too, $80 qv in an affluent area is usually a humbling price. I'm talking about $80 qv originally, not when you negotiate it down to $80.

If they give you $80 originally in an affluent area, its usually the sign of a humble chic in my experience. If they're telling you $100 qv or better to start, most times its a rip off. Your not going to get much action out of a $100-$125 qv chic, especially if its a black chic. If she gives you $60 or lower in an affluent area, your most likely going to get hit with some foul ass odor as no chic with brains would do a $60 qv in Buckhead. You got to look at the prices compared to the location. No chic on the east side as well should be getting $100 for a half hour. Your going to get ripped off!! No chic on the south, east, west side is worth $100. None!! Unless they're well reviewed. More later.

[Allen981]

Clearly, you have way too much time on your hands and way to much personal investment in this hobby.

Relax. Take a deep breath. Enjoy life. There's good and bad in everything.

And, let me add, the idea that there is any sense of professional pride by anyone in this hobby is ludicrous, particularly at the price points you describe.


This is ridiculous. A few things I wanted to touch on. This has got to be the only hobby / job / service industry where the workers do not get any better. How can you be on backpage selling ass for 5 plus years and can't even suck a fucking cock?? You done had about 5,000 cocks in your mouth and your still using teeth? Freaking ridiculous. How the hell can these people be so sorry after all those years of practice. Like, what the fuck are they doing with all that experience. These are the most laziest backwards non-progressive people that I've ever seen in my life. It seems as if they get worse as time progresses.

I saw a chic who's been reviewed on backpage for 4 years now, use coconut oil for lube. WTF?? Are you fucking retarded? Chic didn't even have any condoms to begin with. When I got there, she asked if I wanted just oral or full service. When I said full service, she said, "hold up I got to go to the bathroom and wash first". WTF!! Are you retarded? Did you plan on not washing if I wasn't doing full service? It's like jumping in the shower and washing your ass is an option to these chics. Why would you not wash if a guy was coming for oral only? Were you planning on keeping your clothes on during the oral so the guy doesn't smell the funk from you body?

Then the same chic was dry as a biscuit and stopped me during mid-session to lube up with coconut oil. What a stupid mother sucka!! You've been in the business for over 4 years now and don't know not to use any type of oil for lube? The condom ending up breaking and she asked me how did I happen? What? I had to explain to her that coconut oil is not lube and should not be substituted for lube as it will cause the condom to break. She didn't seem to even know that and thought it was my "cheap" condom that broke. I mean how could you not know this from 4 plus years of taking cock. Like, what are these people doing with all this first hand experience.

Like how can a fucking chic at an AMP not know how to give a hand job when she's been giving hand jobs and working at the AMP for the past umpteen. Like, how many fucking cocks do you need to yank on before you can get it right. Do you not realize that you have to slow it down when you see a guy biting on his tongue and clenching the fucking sides of the massage table as you try to separate his cock from his fucking balls. Like what the hell is really wrong with these people. Its like they're just stuck on stupid. If you don't like your job and your not interested in what your doing, then get another fucking job!!

I'm so sick and tired of seeing these same tired ass chics posting on backpage night and day. They have shitty review after shitty review and continue to flood the boards with their shitty ass service. And when shit hits the fan and their shitty service gets exposed, they defer to a new alter ego with a new name and phone number and continuing with the same shitty service again. Its like nothing dawns on these fools to give better service, so you wouldn't have to keep changing your phone number every 2 weeks to stay ahead of the bad reviews. It's like these people are so fucking stupid, they don't have a clue as to how a basic service runs.

They think spamming a board with ads, trying to get as many guys in and out as quickly as possible, and just laying there like a dead fish is all a guy wants. I've had chics that dead fished me and played around on their phones the whole session, text me a few days later to let me know that they're available. I'm like, are you fucking stupid. Why would I want to see you again after that lame ass performance you gave me the last time. I had that retard, Pleasure, I recently reviewed, text me a few days ago with, "I'm available". I let her know why I wasn't coming back and she seemed to be in shock that I wasn't excited about her just laying there like a dead fish. That's just how these people are. They think guys are just happy with a woman standing infront of them. You don't really have to do anything and they will come back again is their thinking.

And that's really why alot of chics get no better and why those Asian chics in those AMPs don't get any better. They see guys coming in night and day and think those guys are content with their shitty ass service. That's why they have no incentive to get any better. Guys are steadily coming in so these retards believe their doing something good since they're still getting customers. Most guys are stupid anyways and will go to see a chic or go to an AMP although he sees the shitty reviews about them giving shitty service. How the hell can a chic get shitty review after shitty review and guys still going to see her. Some guys will even admit to seeing the shitty reviews and still go to see the chics knowing full well the chic gives shitty service.

Just cause a chic's got a nice ass or tits, this moron will still go knowing that he's going to get some shitty ass service. And this is why these broads never get any better and continue to give shitty service night and day because of you boneheads that continue too patronize their shitty service. And these Latin working houses that you see are inflated with their prices. These people are lucky that there is a such thing as backpage or the internet, if not $30-$40 max is all these people would be getting. These chics prices on the internet are over-inflated like a mother.

Without the internet, these people would only be getting $30-$40 tops and they know it. Who in their right mind is buying ass for $80 qv on the streets. If there was a working house with Latinas or any females without the internet who in their right mind would be paying $80 to buss a nut. These people would be out of business, just as fast as they got in. You even got former street walkers now on backpage with that $80 qv nonsense, knowing full well they weren't getting anymore than $15-$20 tops on the streets. On backpage, all your really paying for is looks and location. If performance and service were factored in, the rates would be $40-$50 tops. Most of these chics have $20 service.

They don't even have supplies for their jobs. No condoms, no lubes, no wipes and they want to charge $60-$80 for a qv. Gtfoh with that non-sense. Half of them don't even know how to wash their fucking ass before you get there. That's because they're nothing but some 40 dollar hoes running that con game on the internet with their inflated ass rates. Any chics on the south side should not be charging anything more than $50 for a qv. If they're charging anything more than that, they're trying to get over on you and they know it. Union City (Shannon Pkway), Old National, Forest Park, Old Dixie Hwy, Virginia Avenue- $50 tops. Anytime I paid more than $50 down that side the service was mostly terrible. When I got good or ok service, the price was at $50. $50 qv seems to be a humbling rate in my opinion.

I noticed I got better service at $50 qv than any other rate. $80-$100 qv are the chics who think their doing you a favor by offering it to you for such a low price. Usually, its just a hand job and go in with only 1 position or a position of their choosing. They usually don't get on top and just lay there until your done. Anything $80 qv or better on the south side is a definite rip off. Chic is definitely trying to get over on you. You pay that type of money on the south side, your definitely going to get shitted on. I've done it in the past and got ripped off with shitty service every time. I also noticed too, $80 qv in an affluent area is usually a humbling price. I'm talking about $80 qv originally, not when you negotiate it down to $80.

If they give you $80 originally in an affluent area, its usually the sign of a humble chic in my experience. If they're telling you $100 qv or better to start, most times its a rip off. Your not going to get much action out of a $100-$125 qv chic, especially if its a black chic. If she gives you $60 or lower in an affluent area, your most likely going to get hit with some foul ass odor as no chic with brains would do a $60 qv in Buckhead. You got to look at the prices compared to the location. No chic on the east side as well should be getting $100 for a half hour. Your going to get ripped off!! No chic on the south, east, west side is worth $100. None!! Unless they're well reviewed. More later.

[MrHobbyist]

This is ridiculous. A few things I wanted to touch on. This has got to be the only hobby / job / service industry where the workers do not get any better. How can you be on backpage selling ass for 5 plus years and can't even suck a fucking cock?? You done had about 5,000 cocks in your mouth and your still using teeth? Freaking ridiculous. How the hell can these people be so sorry after all those years of practice. Like, what the fuck are they doing with all that experience. These are the most laziest backwards non-progressive people that I've ever seen in my life. It seems as if they get worse as time progresses.

I'm so sick and tired of seeing these same tired ass chics posting on backpage night and day. They have shitty review after shitty review and continue to flood the boards with their shitty ass service. And when shit hits the fan and their shitty service gets exposed, they defer to a new alter ego with a new name and phone number and continuing with the same shitty service again. Its like nothing dawns on these fools to give better service, so you wouldn't have to keep changing your phone number every 2 weeks to stay ahead of the bad reviews. It's like these people are so fucking stupid, they don't have a clue as to how a basic service runs.

They think spamming a board with ads, trying to get as many guys in and out as quickly as possible, and just laying there like a dead fish is all a guy wants. I've had chics that dead fished me and played around on their phones the whole session, text me a few days later to let me know that they're available. I'm like, are you fucking stupid. Why would I want to see you again after that lame ass performance you gave me the last time. I had that retard, Pleasure, I recently reviewed, text me a few days ago with, "I'm available". I let her know why I wasn't coming back and she seemed to be in shock that I wasn't excited about her just laying there like a dead fish. That's just how these people are. They think guys are just happy with a woman standing infront of them. You don't really have to do anything and they will come back again is their thinking.

Don't hold back brother, tell us how you really feel LOL. I have to agree with you on most point though. I've come to believe, a few things. I wouldn't know for sure, I'm not a Psychiatrist nor do I really give a shit one way or the other.

I imagine, however, if they are regularly on BP they are not going to give the best service, mostly because they go for volume. They are almost always willing to negotiate and as you said, many are not the sharpest pencils in the box. Not having worked in anything near a professional environment, usually the opposite, I. E. , dive bar waitress, McDonalds etc. Service is just not in their repertoire.

I can imagine it's a the same old routine for them day in and day out lay down, get pounded, get dressed, next. In their defense. They get between 40 and 100 bones a pop, depending on the experience and intestinal fortitude of their client of the moment. Their drug habit takes most of the money and their pimp takes the rest. I suspect, most of them started doing it for some quick party cash, or a car payment or two when they were younger. One thing led to another, time passed and they suddenly this is their occupation, they don't like it any more than any other day laborer. From what I can tell, most don't consider it a business, they consider it a temporary thing, even after 5 or more years. Let's face it, for most of them, this is a job like any other, certainly not a career. Certainly there are exceptions, I have actually stumbled across a few gems on occasion. They get rewarded by repeat business and referrals. If they provide a really good service, I'll usually give them a 25% tip or so and complement them on their service. Irrespective of the service or quality, her attitude or lack there of, I always treat them with kindness and respect. I try to remember, most of these ladies would rather be doing something else, but this is the easy money, or so they have convinced themselves and it has become their life. I just won't compensate them, or anyone for that matter for poor service. I don't tip well for shitty service in a restaurant, I don't compensate well for shitty service when I'm getting my d*ck sucked.

This is why I almost never donate more than 40, and that's just for the convenience of a hotel, If its car play, 20 is my max. I don't go for up sells or any additional with a BP advertiser. It has just never been worth it in my experience. I think I keep going back to BP because of the occasional Gem. I really enjoy finding them, I suppose, you could say I am as addicted to the hobby as any provider is addicted to whatever they do. I know going in I'm probably going to be disappointed, but there is that grain of hope that I'll strike gold one day. Every time I find a nugget, it renews my hope for the 15 times I don't. .

Anyways, great rant Johnny. I always enjoy reading your posts.

In the words of the genius and comedian Chris Rock "Damn, I got to come in early tomorrow and work on my project!" There ain't enough time when you got a career. When you got a job, there's too much time. You're looking at your watch, like "Ah, shit. It's 9:08. ".

[Johnny Mapalo]

Something I just typed made me remember to rant about this. Why do this site change words around or delete words that you write that aren't even curse words. For instance, I just typed something on the backpage review section and it came out totally wrong. I tried to type the dollar signs and when I previewed the message the dollar signs weren't there. Why? As a test, I typed $exiness with the dollar sign instead of "S" and it came out spelling Sexiness correctly. Right under it, I typed a few dollar signs and it came out as the word, "She". WTF. Now granted, I type on this stupid phone alot and it auto corrects words on me from time to time, which sometimes slips me, but most of the time it's the site here that keeps changing the words.

Just like I always say, "gots ta stroking ". Now, it's coming out as "got to stroking". Why? If I type Come on, it would come back as See'Mon and I didn't even use the c you m, cum. Other times, I would type exclamation marks before closing quotation marks and the closing quotation marks would be gone as well as the exclamation mark. Why? There are some others too. Why do why'all do that on this site? Is there a reason for this? Also, I don't know how this rant will look after I send it through as I believe some words will be changed.

[Johnny Mapalo]

Just a few site / apps that these chics use to check your phone number for reviews. There are some more, but most of them will verify if your a female before you're allowed to register on those sites. Next time a chic is not answering your numerous calls or text, this may be the big reason why. You can call them from different numbers so you can know for sure.

http://nationalblacklist.com/Default.aspx

http://www.checkpunter.com/en

http://www.verifyhim.com/

[Barrytwins]

Okay guys, not sure this is the right sections but I am trying to offer newbies some advice.

This is the best time of the month. The last 4-5 days of each month and the first 4-5 days. These girls need rent. This is when you can low ball them more than ever if you want.

This is when you have a couple of UTR's that start sending you crazy offers and will do whatever you want.

Take advantage of this time.

Let the desperate girls hit you up. Be nice to them. Tell them you are a little low. Their prices will come down and they will tell you they will do it this time. Then again next time it will happen.

Be smart and safe.

Good luck.

[Allen981]

The day I have to browbeat girls on price at the end of the month to save a few bucks is the day I quit the hobby.

In fact, I've often padded the envelope without prompting.

Of course, that's the way I've run my personal business over the years, and I ain't changing now.

Have I been screwed over a time or two? Sure, but the positives have far outweighed any negative. Some girls, you'll never see again; others smoke or snort it away. But others, you see them a second time, they treat you very well. And a few, you might see a spark to get back to real life. I've seen girls go from backpage to a classroom teaching, another who is a very successful writer, and another who works in finance for a large company.

Conduct yourself as you like, but remember that while these girls are down and out, you're down in the slop with them. Newbies, rest assured, playing cheap will cost you in the long run.

Just my take, and I've had a ton of fun along the way.


Okay guys, not sure this is the right sections but I am trying to offer newbies some advice.

This is the best time of the month. The last 4-5 days of each month and the first 4-5 days. These girls need rent. This is when you can low ball them more than ever if you want.

This is when you have a couple of UTR's that start sending you crazy offers and will do whatever you want.

Take advantage of this time.

Let the desperate girls hit you up. Be nice to them. Tell them you are a little low. Their prices will come down and they will tell you they will do it this time. Then again next time it will happen.

Be smart and safe.

Good luck.

[Bunnery Sgt]

The day I have to browbeat girls on price at the end of the month to save a few bucks is the day I quit the hobby.

In fact, I've often padded the envelope without prompting.

Of course, that's the way I've run my personal business over the years, and I ain't changing now.

Have I been screwed over a time or two? Sure, but the positives have far outweighed any negative. Some girls, you'll never see again; others smoke or snort it away. But others, you see them a second time, they treat you very well. And a few, you might see a spark to get back to real life. I've seen girls go from backpage to a classroom teaching, another who is a very successful writer, and another who works in finance for a large company.

Conduct yourself as you like, but remember that while these girls are down and out, you're down in the slop with them. Newbies, rest assured, playing cheap will cost you in the long run.

Just my take, and I've had a ton of fun along the way.So let me get this straight. You pay full price and sometimes more than full price (unsolicited) because it will gain you more favor over time? Where's parrotrange when we need him?

[MrHobbyist]

The day I have to browbeat girls on price at the end of the month to save a few bucks is the day I quit the hobby.

Have I been screwed over a time or two? Sure, but the positives have far outweighed any negative. Some girls, you'll never see again; others smoke or snort it away. But others, you see them a second time, they treat you very well. And a few, you might see a spark to get back to real life. I've seen girls go from backpage to a classroom teaching, another who is a very successful writer, and another who works in finance for a large company.

Conduct yourself as you like, but remember that while these girls are down and out, you're down in the slop with them. Newbies, rest assured, playing cheap will cost you in the long run.

Just my take, and I've had a ton of fun along the way.I am always amused at how sanctimonious hobbyist can get. I get it, they are humans with feelings etc. But business is business. Treat them with respect and courtesy always! But don't fool yourself, they are in it for the money, and the money only, they do not get up in the morning and think to themselves, I am looking forward to some old man fondling me today. I just love that fat slob with hair on his back trying to fuck me with his half limp dick and bad breath. Hell naw! 60 or 1000, it doesn't matter, it's the same for them. They get lucky from time to time and find some sympathetic simp willing to pay double what someone else will pay and they have done well that day. Other times, they get half for the same service. It is a transaction like any other nothing more, nothing less. You have a service or commodity I want I offer you what I think it is worth, you accept my offer or you do not. The negotiation starts there. It's really that simple. Question -- when is the best time to buy a car? Answer -- at the end of the month or even better the end of the model year.

Newbies and experienced hobbyist alike, do not think for one minute that you mean a damn thing to any one of these girls. That's what wives and girlfriends are for. If you negotiate a price, pay the price. If you get exceptional service, tip accordingly, if you get shitty service, tip accordingly. Do what you want, but if I can get a good hamburger for 2. 50 at one place, or the same hamburger across the street for 1. 50, I'm going for the 1. 50 every single time.

SMFH.

[Barrytwins]

The day I have to browbeat girls on price at the end of the month to save a few bucks is the day I quit the hobby.

In fact, I've often padded the envelope without prompting.

Of course, that's the way I've run my personal business over the years, and I ain't changing now.

Have I been screwed over a time or two? Sure, but the positives have far outweighed any negative. Some girls, you'll never see again; others smoke or snort it away. But others, you see them a second time, they treat you very well. And a few, you might see a spark to get back to real life. I've seen girls go from backpage to a classroom teaching, another who is a very successful writer, and another who works in finance for a large company.

Conduct yourself as you like, but remember that while these girls are down and out, you're down in the slop with them. Newbies, rest assured, playing cheap will cost you in the long run.

Just my take, and I've had a ton of fun along the way.I am very cautious and can probably count on one hand the amount of truly bad experiences I have had. I treat these ladies with respect and we know upfront what the deal is and the agreed upon amount. If I get a call from a UTR on the 1st, like I did this morning, saying she is short 50 for rent that needs to be paid today and she will give me BBBJ and covered full if I can come by, I say I'll be there at lunch. I'm not going to give her more but I am going to be nice to her and then bend her over and get my nut. My guess, she'll contact me again at a discount.

I don't care what she does when I am not with her. Does she have a "real" job? Great. Does she have a boyfriend? I don't care. Does she get on her knees for me and take it how I want to give it? If that is a yes, let's do this. They don't care about me. I don't care about them. They are just someone to help keep my stress down.

[Walker88]

I am very cautious and can probably count on one hand the amount of truly bad experiences I have had. I treat these ladies with respect and we know upfront what the deal is and the agreed upon amount. If I get a call from a UTR on the 1st, like I did this morning, saying she is short 50 for rent that needs to be paid today and she will give me BBBJ and covered full if I can come by, I say I'll be there at lunch. I'm not going to give her more but I am going to be nice to her and then bend her over and get my nut. My guess, she'll contact me again at a discount.

I don't care what she does when I am not with her. Does she have a "real" job? Great. Does she have a boyfriend? I don't care. Does she get on her knees for me and take it how I want to give it? If that is a yes, let's do this. They don't care about me. I don't care about them. They are just someone to help keep my stress down.I can appreciate how you operate Barry!

[Allen981]

Rather than just a hamburger, my approach has often gotten me a nice steak. For what you're paying for hamburger.

I'm completely realistic about the hobby; most times, it's just a 'transaction' as you describe, done and gone, regardless of what is charged or paid. But not always, and it's those incredible encounters that make things interesting.

Have fun and stay safe.


I am always amused at how sanctimonious hobbyist can get. I get it, they are humans with feelings etc. But business is business. Treat them with respect and courtesy always! But don't fool yourself, they are in it for the money, and the money only, they do not get up in the morning and think to themselves, I am looking forward to some old man fondling me today. I just love that fat slob with hair on his back trying to fuck me with his half limp dick and bad breath. Hell naw! 60 or 1000, it doesn't matter, it's the same for them. They get lucky from time to time and find some sympathetic simp willing to pay double what someone else will pay and they have done well that day. Other times, they get half for the same service. It is a transaction like any other nothing more, nothing less. You have a service or commodity I want I offer you what I think it is worth, you accept my offer or you do not. The negotiation starts there. It's really that simple. Question -- when is the best time to buy a car? Answer -- at the end of the month or even better the end of the model year.

Newbies and experienced hobbyist alike, do not think for one minute that you mean a damn thing to any one of these girls. That's what wives and girlfriends are for. If you negotiate a price, pay the price. If you get exceptional service, tip accordingly, if you get shitty service, tip accordingly. Do what you want, but if I can get a good hamburger for 2. 50 at one place, or the same hamburger across the street for 1. 50, I'm going for the 1. 50 every single time.

SMFH.

[NuGuy36]

I completely agree with everything MrHobbyist stated here. Always respect the ladies but know this is a business transaction first and foremost.


I am always amused at how sanctimonious hobbyist can get. I get it, they are humans with feelings etc. But business is business. Treat them with respect and courtesy always! But don't fool yourself, they are in it for the money, and the money only, they do not get up in the morning and think to themselves, I am looking forward to some old man fondling me today. I just love that fat slob with hair on his back trying to fuck me with his half limp dick and bad breath. Hell naw! 60 or 1000, it doesn't matter, it's the same for them. They get lucky from time to time and find some sympathetic simp willing to pay double what someone else will pay and they have done well that day. Other times, they get half for the same service. It is a transaction like any other nothing more, nothing less. You have a service or commodity I want I offer you what I think it is worth, you accept my offer or you do not. The negotiation starts there. It's really that simple. Question -- when is the best time to buy a car? Answer -- at the end of the month or even better the end of the model year.

Newbies and experienced hobbyist alike, do not think for one minute that you mean a damn thing to any one of these girls. That's what wives and girlfriends are for. If you negotiate a price, pay the price. If you get exceptional service, tip accordingly, if you get shitty service, tip accordingly. Do what you want, but if I can get a good hamburger for 2. 50 at one place, or the same hamburger across the street for 1. 50, I'm going for the 1. 50 every single time.

SMFH.

[Head Hunting]

The day I have to browbeat girls on price at the end of the month to save a few bucks is the day I quit the hobby.

In fact, I've often padded the envelope without prompting.

Of course, that's the way I've run my personal business over the years, and I ain't changing now.

Have I been screwed over a time or two? Sure, but the positives have far outweighed any negative. Some girls, you'll never see again; others smoke or snort it away. But others, you see them a second time, they treat you very well. And a few, you might see a spark to get back to real life. I've seen girls go from backpage to a classroom teaching, another who is a very successful writer, and another who works in finance for a large company.

Conduct yourself as you like, but remember that while these girls are down and out, you're down in the slop with them. Newbies, rest assured, playing cheap will cost you in the long run.

Just my take, and I've had a ton of fun along the way.I believe in always treating people with respect until they take it for granted, regardless of who it is.

The thing is, providers are more like drug dealers than respectable establishments, and they will get over on us any chance they get. They also sniff out weakness like bassetthounds and prey on the easy victims. Hence, the common no black men rule.

Paying as little as possible is just universal good business. I only tip when it's deserved for good service. Many providers will appreciate being treated well anyway. No reason to pay extra accross the board. This is where some of these providers get their crazy ideas from. I'm not cool with hour rates for qvs with girls who look the same and give the same service. I can understand a little more for those who really enjoy what they do.

[Ozymandias]

Paying as little as possible is just universal good business. No, it's not.

Good business is paying what you've decided something is worth; that, in turn, is limited by what you can sustainably afford.

I can hardly resist lecturing on economics, but I'm going to resist the temptation and just lay this out practically as a Guide to Monger Finance. (EDIT: I lectured a little bit.)

You have to make two decisions here: what fraction of take home pay do you want to commit to the hobby, and what frequency do you want to indulge in it. Multiply your take home by the fraction, and divide that by the frequency, and you have your budget per encounter; then, simply adhere to it within a 20% range (either way) to give you on-site flexibility. It's pretty simple.

Example:

Melvin the Monger makes $200,000 per year. Melvin is smart, so he maxes his 401 k, cafeteria plan, and Roth (about $28 k total), so after taxes he's taking home about 110 k (varies by state). Melvin understands that he's setting about 10% of his income aside for retirement, and because he's not a huge loser, he's definitely not spending more than THAT on rental pussy, so he decides spending 2% seems reasonable: this gives Melvin a $2200 annual budget for The Hobby.

Now, this means Melvin can do $40 quickies every week, or a $180 escort monthly, or a porn star quarterly, or some mix. Melvin is a fairly successful guy, so he really doesn't see himself tussling with hood rats, so he nixes the $40 quickies, and instead treats himself to hourly sessions at a KAMP, or hitting up a stripper he knows, etc. That's his thing, and he's pretty happy.

Notice, though, that a guy who makes $600,000 is going to have three times the budget, OR his buddy at the firm with the same income might just hobby more seriously and devote 10% of his after-tax to the hobby, also tripling his budget. It can vary.

So you see, when you have mongers with different incomes, varying levels of interest, and different frequency needs, you suddenly wind up with a range of prices, from Melvin's occasional $40 quickie to our $600 k guy who just hits Vegas once a quarter to fuck a $1500 porn star. That's a HEALTHY market.

Here's an fun fact about pricing, courtesy of power law probability distributions: If the average price of a service is $X, then 20% of the market will be willing to pay $4X for an upgraded version of the service, and 20% of the market will be willing to pay $X /4 for a downgraded version; after that, 4% of the market will be willing to pay $16X for a VERY nice version of the product, and 4% will be willing to pay $X /16 for a VERY downgraded version. If you have a large enough market, 0. 8% will pay $64X for an AMAZING version of the product or service, and 0. 8% will be willing to pay $X /64 for a version just not even worth having.

That's why we have a world in which pedestrians slogging through rain and Bugatti Veyrons can coexist.

Looking at adult services, what does this mean? If the average (and I'm pulling a number from a hat for sake of illustration here) cost of a pay for play encounter is $100 for 30 minutes, than that means the market tails are going to look something like a $2 5-minute blowjob from a TS junkie on one end, and an all-night $6400 porn star fuckfest on the other. It's a big range, and a healthy marketplace WANTS an array of service categories to fill out the distribution, just like we want a range of cars from a used Pinto to a Rolls Drophead.

Mongers come in all income categories, all frequency preferences, and a range of service level interests, and the market is always going to reflect that, and it's just stupid to complain about it. That's like complaining that some mongers are taller or shorter: you're bitching about one of the fundamental laws of nature, probability distributions. It's just not cool!

O.

[Head Hunting]

No, it's not.

Good business is paying what you've decided something is worth; that, in turn, is limited by what you can sustainably afford.

I can hardly resist lecturing on economics, but I'm going to resist the temptation and just lay this out practically as a Guide to Monger Finance. (EDIT: I lectured a little bit.)

You have to make two decisions here: what fraction of take home pay do you want to commit to the hobby, and what frequency do you want to indulge in it. Multiply your take home by the fraction, and divide that by the frequency, and you have your budget per encounter; then, simply adhere to it within a 20% range (either way) to give you on-site flexibility. It's pretty simple.

Example:

Melvin the Monger makes $200,000 per year. Melvin is smart, so he maxes his 401 k, cafeteria plan, and Roth (about $28 k total), so after taxes he's taking home about 110 k (varies by state). Melvin understands that he's setting about 10% of his income aside for retirement, and because he's not a huge loser, he's definitely not spending more than THAT on rental pussy, so he decides spending 2% seems reasonable: this gives Melvin a $2200 annual budget for The Hobby.

Now, this means Melvin can do $40 quickies every week, or a $180 escort monthly, or a porn star quarterly, or some mix. Melvin is a fairly successful guy, so he really doesn't see himself tussling with hood rats, so he nixes the $40 quickies, and instead treats himself to hourly sessions at a KAMP, or hitting up a stripper he knows, etc. That's his thing, and he's pretty happy.

Notice, though, that a guy who makes $600,000 is going to have three times the budget, OR his buddy at the firm with the same income might just hobby more seriously and devote 10% of his after-tax to the hobby, also tripling his budget. It can vary.

So you see, when you have mongers with different incomes, varying levels of interest, and different frequency needs, you suddenly wind up with a range of prices, from Melvin's occasional $40 quickie to our $600 k guy who just hits Vegas once a quarter to fuck a $1500 porn star. That's a HEALTHY market.

Here's an fun fact about pricing, courtesy of power law probability distributions: If the average price of a service is $X, then 20% of the market will be willing to pay $4X for an upgraded version of the service, and 20% of the market will be willing to pay $X /4 for a downgraded version; after that, 4% of the market will be willing to pay $16X for a VERY nice version of the product, and 4% will be willing to pay $X /16 for a VERY downgraded version. If you have a large enough market, 0. 8% will pay $64X for an AMAZING version of the product or service, and 0. 8% will be willing to pay $X /64 for a version just not even worth having.

That's why we have a world in which pedestrians slogging through rain and Bugatti Veyrons can coexist.

Looking at adult services, what does this mean? If the average (and I'm pulling a number from a hat for sake of illustration here) cost of a pay for play encounter is $100 for 30 minutes, than that means the market tails are going to look something like a $2 5-minute blowjob from a TS junkie on one end, and an all-night $6400 porn star fuckfest on the other. It's a big range, and a healthy marketplace WANTS an array of service categories to fill out the distribution, just like we want a range of cars from a used Pinto to a Rolls Drophead.

Mongers come in all income categories, all frequency preferences, and a range of service level interests, and the market is always going to reflect that, and it's just stupid to complain about it. That's like complaining that some mongers are taller or shorter: you're bitching about one of the fundamental laws of nature, probability distributions. It's just not cool!

O.And this is why I never argue with ozy.

[Bunnery Sgt]

Although I can appreciate a lecture on microeconomics I don't need a dissertation to get this point the across. Its not lost on people that some make more than others and some have more to spend than others. When people point out how stupid it is to overpay it is with that in mind. Instead I'll use my two friends Webster and Urban. The man himself admits he never tries to negotiate and even will "pad the envelope unprompted". Anyways try to keep up.





Verb.

Gerund or present participle: overpaying.

Pay (someone) too highly.

"many fans think our top players are overpaid".

Pay (money) in excess of what is due.

"to overpay taxes".




A man that puts himself in a subservient / submissive position under women in hopes of winning them over, without the female bringing anything to the table.

A man that puts too much value on a female for no reason.

A man that prides himself with "Chivalry" in hopes of getting sexual gratification form women.

A square with no game other than "Rolling out the Red-Carpet" for every female.

The perfect example of a "Simp" Man would be:

The role Eddy Murphy played in the movie "Norbit".

The role of Kevin James in the show "Kind of Queens".

A "Yes Dear, Man" Simp.

By all means everyone has the right to spend how much they want on anything they buy. I doubt he will walk into a car dealership and pay double msrp for a car but why? He knows the value of that car. The problem here is that not a lot of men know the value of a butt selling woman and so they end up paying way more than they should. They have no street smarts. Which again is totally OK with me (I know the game and they tell me about guys like that all the time and how they take advantage of them) but should not be misunderstood as a lack of understanding of basic microeconomics.

[Ozymandias]

By all means everyone has the right to spend how much they want on anything they buy. I doubt he will walk into a car dealership and pay double msrp for a car but why?No, no.

Okay, this is where people are failing to understand variable price points, and it's what's leading to arguments.

No one is advocating paying twice MSRP for a car. What's going on here is that ONE guy is willing to pay $40,000 for a fully-loaded Camry, while the other is paying $80,000 for a Tesla, but then the Camry guy is saying "hey, why are you spending $80,000 on a car? Cars cost $40,000!" You see where he's missing the point? If people like me are paying let's say twice as much for a session, that's not *your* session, it's a better session with a better girl, or better service, or longer duration. It's a different zone of the market. Don't try to compare apples with oranges.

Obviously, folks fall into a range of negotiation skills. If you want to fault someone for deliberately playing more for a service than it's worth, MAYBE there is some merit there (though even that* is arguable, given the subjectivity of value), but to try to have some kind of communist monger system in which all pricing is fixed by committee? That just damages the hobby.

Different mongers willing to pay different prices for different services from different girls is nothing but win; that makes the market worth participating in, by all agents.

O.

*(believe it or not, there's a fetish called financial domination: it's an S&M, B&D thing where guys get off on having girls tell them to give them money. Not my cup of tea, but again, it takes all comers to make a market!

[Bunnery Sgt]

No, no.

Okay, this is where people are failing to understand variable price points, and it's what's leading to arguments.

No one is advocating paying twice MSRP for a car. What's going on here is that ONE guy is willing to pay $40,000 for a fully-loaded Camry, while the other is paying $80,000 for a Tesla, but then the Camry guy is saying "hey, why are you spending $80,000 on a car? Cars cost $40,000!" You see where he's missing the point? If people like me are paying let's say twice as much for a session, that's not *your* session, it's a better session with a better girl, or better service, or longer duration. It's a different zone of the market. Don't try to compare apples with oranges.

I can see that you still don't understand. A toyota has a toyota emblem. A tesla has a tesla emblem. If I took a Camry and put a tesla emblem on it would you still pay 80,000? Would you know it was a toyota tesla? Jizz guzzling cum buckets don't come with an MSRP. I (and many others) understand all men are not equipped with the skills and knowledge to recognize a toyota tesla which is why so many attempt to educate how to judge the value of these chicks.

Even so this really isn't even the argument is it? Men are willingly and admittedly over paying for snatch to earn favor with these women. This demonstrates a lack of understanding of the business itself. At the end of the day what you do with your money is your business. I can't tell you how many "agency" girls were on BP (or some other site) before or after their stint with that agency. Or how many guys on here have a UTR that I could probably meet at the mall and smash for free. I just don't like to see people who think that people (such as myself) who possess this knowledge simultaneously lack basic economics skills. You can't learn this stuff in a micro book.

[Niteluvr]

I can see that you still don't understand. A toyota has a toyota emblem. A tesla has a tesla emblem. If I took a Camry and put a tesla emblem on it would you still pay 80,000? Would you know it was a toyota tesla? Jizz guzzling cum buckets don't come with an MSRP. I (and many others) understand all men are not equipped with the skills and knowledge to recognize a toyota tesla which is why so many attempt to educate how to judge the value of these chicks.

Even so this really isn't even the argument is it? Men are willingly and admittedly over paying for snatch to earn favor with these women. This demonstrates a lack of understanding of the business itself. At the end of the day what you do with your money is your business. I can't tell you how many "agency" girls were on BP (or some other site) before or after their stint with that agency. Or how many guys on here have a UTR that I could probably meet at the mall and smash for free. I just don't like to see people who think that people (such as myself) who possess this knowledge simultaneously lack basic economics skills. You can't learn this stuff in a micro book.In that "overpaying" argument I think you have to include guys who will fuck a lard-assed ghetto ho for $40. To me, that's overpaying by about $140 or north of it. Those hawgs should be paying guys $100 or so to fuck them. Even then, I wouldn't fuck one with your worst enemy's dick.

[Allen981]

My last comment ever on this stream.

For every woman involved in this business, every one, the decision to work in this manner is far more than an economic decision. Every female who becomes involved in this business must make an emotional, personal decision in response to the circumstances of their lives.

I don't care if it's a $10 streetwalker, or a $1,000 escort, they all must make that decision. And, for each, it's a very difficult thing to do.

Your approach serves to ignore how tough that choice is, to dehumanize these people, to turn them into a commodity. I believe mine recognizes the difficulty of their choice.

No one's pure in any of this. So, approach the hobby as you wish, and I will do the same.

Selah.


I can see that you still don't understand. A toyota has a toyota emblem. A tesla has a tesla emblem. If I took a Camry and put a tesla emblem on it would you still pay 80,000? Would you know it was a toyota tesla? Jizz guzzling cum buckets don't come with an MSRP. I (and many others) understand all men are not equipped with the skills and knowledge to recognize a toyota tesla which is why so many attempt to educate how to judge the value of these chicks.

Even so this really isn't even the argument is it? Men are willingly and admittedly over paying for snatch to earn favor with these women. This demonstrates a lack of understanding of the business itself. At the end of the day what you do with your money is your business. I can't tell you how many "agency" girls were on BP (or some other site) before or after their stint with that agency. Or how many guys on here have a UTR that I could probably meet at the mall and smash for free. I just don't like to see people who think that people (such as myself) who possess this knowledge simultaneously lack basic economics skills. You can't learn this stuff in a micro book.

[Bunnery Sgt]

My last comment ever on this stream.

For every woman involved in this business, every one, the decision to work in this manner is far more than an economic decision. Every female who becomes involved in this business must make an emotional, personal decision in response to the circumstances of their lives.

I don't care if it's a $10 streetwalker, or a $1,000 escort, they all must make that decision. And, for each, it's a very difficult thing to do.

Your approach serves to ignore how tough that choice is, to dehumanize these people, to turn them into a commodity. I believe mine recognizes the difficulty of their choice.

No one's pure in any of this. So, approach the hobby as you wish, and I will do the same.

Selah.You've hit the nail on the head. Nothing more to see here folks.

[The Parrot]

No, no.

Okay, this is where people are failing to understand variable price points, and it's what's leading to arguments.

No one is advocating paying twice MSRP for a car. What's going on here is that ONE guy is willing to pay $40,000 for a fully-loaded Camry, while the other is paying $80,000 for a Tesla, but then the Camry guy is saying "hey, why are you spending $80,000 on a car? Cars cost $40,000!" You see where he's missing the point? If people like me are paying let's say twice as much for a session, that's not *your* session, it's a better session with a better girl, or better service, or longer duration. It's a different zone of the market. Don't try to compare apples with oranges.

Obviously, folks fall into a range of negotiation skills. If you want to fault someone for deliberately playing more for a service than it's worth, MAYBE there is some merit there (though even that* is arguable, given the subjectivity of value), but to try to have some kind of communist monger system in which all pricing is fixed by committee? That just damages the hobby.

Different mongers willing to pay different prices for different services from different girls is nothing but win; that makes the market worth participating in, by all agents.

O.

*(believe it or not, there's a fetish called financial domination: it's an S&M, B&D thing where guys get off on having girls tell them to give them money. Not my cup of tea, but again, it takes all comers to make a market!Paying twice more does not equal a better session though. Especially when you are taking one for the team with an unreviewed girl.

This argument gets so tiring.

The same girl charging 40 can turn around and charge 400. Just because she changed her rates, does it mean her service is "better" than before??

I've wasted plenty cash on 150+ providers. Most weren't worth the coin.

[Sgt Soros]

Allen981 you nailed it! Hope you don't mind me tweaking your comments a little bit to show how it can apply to hobbyists.




For every hobbyist involved in this business, every one, the decision to see escorts, street workers, etc is solely based on an emotional, personal decision in response to the circumstances of their lives.

I don't care if it's a hobbyist who sees a $10 streetwalker, or a $1,000 escort, they all must make that decision. And, for some, it's a very difficult thing to do.

No one's pure in any of this. So, approach the hobby as you wish, and I will do the same.

Selah.

[Bunnery Sgt]

Allen981 you nailed it! Hope you don't mind me tweaking your comments a little bit to show how it can apply to hobbyists.I think his comment about dehumanizing these women is very important and should also be included. It's a great demonstration of how different vagina buyers view these women and how it affects the decisions they make when determining how much money to spend.

Some of these ideas appear to defy logic. How can you be a member of PETA but regularly attend and spend money on dog fighting? Seems crazy to me but it's always interesting to see different points of view from my own.

[Johnny Mapalo]

It let's you look into the minds of these man puppet / simps. Its funny how all these people who agree with Allen981 all have the same mentality as him. They all have this white knight soft hearted holier than thou mentality thinking that they're somehow helping these chics by "padding the envelope" and going out of their way to "treat them with respect". Guess what, at the end of the day your still a "stupid horny trick" just like the other guy who brow beated a chic for $40 service. Just look at the backpage review thread where someone who post very few reviews and gives little to no info on the board, calls me out for not giving chics high performance scores as if they're somewhat entitled to it.

These are the same guys that will write bogus exaggerated reviews, pad the envelope before services rendered, take chics out to dinner, go shopping for these chics before they get to a chics incall, etc. These dudes are so sensitive and corny that you can literally see them crying as they read an unfavourable review or read how a guy just low-balled a chic for a $30 qv. Dudes, this is not Somalia or fucking Afghanistan! This is America, a 1st world country. None of these chics are starving or doing this out of desperation. What some of these chics are charging for an all-covered qv service, you can get for a whole night in some 3rd world countries.

These chics are the ones who are getting over on you, not the other way around. These chics can get a legal job, welfare assistance, housing assistance, free help from churches, salvation Army, Goodwill and such. None of these chics are starving. If they say they are, just ask them what happened with the last person that told them they would be there in 20 minutes and chic decided to flake on them when they got there. Ask them about the last person that offered them $60 qv but they turned it down because they thought they wete too good for $60.

Reality is, these chics have got it good. There are not too many places in the world where an unknown gal can place an ad on the internet and charge $100 for a qv and actually get customers. Try that south of the border and see how many customers she gets. These chics are fully aware of what they're doing and they're doing this out of their own free will. They do this because they want that easy quick tax free money. If you sensitive guys are so benevolent as you think you are, why not call up random providers on backpage and offer them monetary assistance with no sexual compensation.

Offer to help them find a job with no sexual favors exchanged. I bet none of you holier than thou fools will do that. You still will be browsing the escort ads looking for chics who can suck your dick right. Your still gunna pad that envelope with extra money and give chics 7-9 in performance so she can suck your dick right. In my opinion, you dudes are worse than the dudes that lowball a chic for $40 service. You guys in your warped universe and warped way of thinking are actually trying to rationalize paying for sexual favors from "dehumanized commodity ".

Get a clue you retards. Your actually adding to the dehumanization of these chics. You think she feels better because she's sucking your dick for $200, opposed to sucking Parrot Range's dick for 15 bones. Your both adding to a chics dehumanization. Your just the dumbass that decided to pay more.

[Ozymandias]

(The usual us versus them rant).You make some great points about the relative ease with which these girls can make money if they just get their shit together, but your comments would carry more weight if you'd ever had an actual, good hobby experience; granted, your stories are comedy gold, but they function more as a warning about the hobby than reviews.

If you have one good encounter out of ten, and you're paying $40 per encounter, you're actually paying $400 for one good encounter; that's not really a bargain.

I'm probably at the other extreme of "careful and selective", but I have better than a 95% success rate on sessions, and I can recall ONE instance of a girl "flaking" in twenty-five years in the hobby (and that was an OTC stripper, not a proper escort). My value to cost ratio is pretty close to 1. I've never, ever "tipped", though; I like everything fixed cost, fair, and transparent, and I can't say I ever "talk" to these girls (other than to say "uh huh" and "oh, really?" if they go on about themselves) because once we're on the clock, I focus on service delivery; that said, if someone gets off on "being friends", whatever, it has no impact on me.

But it's pretty rich for someone who pours money into the hobby on a regular basis, receiving almost literally nothing in return, to go on about other people being "man puppets" or "simps".

O.

[Wleakr]

You make some great points about the relative ease with which these girls can make money if they just get their shit together, but your comments would carry more weight if you'd ever had an actual, good hobby experience; granted, your stories are comedy gold, but they function more as a warning about the hobby than reviews.

If you have one good encounter out of ten, and you're paying $40 per encounter, you're actually paying $400 for one good encounter; that's not really a bargain.

But it's pretty rich for someone who pours money into the hobby on a regular basis, receiving almost literally nothing in return, to go on about other people being "man puppets" or "simps".

O.This is probably the best assessment I've read on Mapalo's "reviews". It's great to see reviews, but JM's is more amusement than review and would have to agree if one's experience (whether escort or stripper) are more negative than positive, why stay so actively engaged? But since the prose of the review is so jovial, maybe it's not actually a negative encounter, and like most novels, attempts to leave it to the reader to interpret the nuances.

[The Parrot]

You make some great points about the relative ease with which these girls can make money if they just get their shit together, but your comments would carry more weight if you'd ever had an actual, good hobby experience; granted, your stories are comedy gold, but they function more as a warning about the hobby than reviews.

If you have one good encounter out of ten, and you're paying $40 per encounter, you're actually paying $400 for one good encounter; that's not really a bargain.

I'm probably at the other extreme of "careful and selective", but I have better than a 95% success rate on sessions, and I can recall ONE instance of a girl "flaking" in twenty-five years in the hobby (and that was an OTC stripper, not a proper escort). My value to cost ratio is pretty close to 1. I've never, ever "tipped", though; I like everything fixed cost, fair, and transparent, and I can't say I ever "talk" to these girls (other than to say "uh huh" and "oh, really?" if they go on about themselves) because once we're on the clock, I focus on service delivery; that said, if someone gets off on "being friends", whatever, it has no impact on me.

But it's pretty rich for someone who pours money into the hobby on a regular basis, receiving almost literally nothing in return, to go on about other people being "man puppets" or "simps".

O.I'm willing to bet Johnny's experiences would not improve if he paid more. The image you both project is different, also I'm sure your price point is way higher. A 300 chip provider BETTER give great service.

What price point do you suggest for having a high success rate Ozy? Inform us since you are in the know.

[Ozymandias]

What price point do you suggest for having a high success rate Ozy? Inform us since you are in the know.Interestingly, it's gone down over the years.

In the 90's, and maybe very early 2000's, it was kind of understood than an hour with an escort was $300. That was the typical rate at the Brazilian incalls, for agency escorts, better spa girls (like the New Yorkers they used to import for the week at Gold Spa), etc. Independents usually billed about $250, though sometimes higher. This was before Craigslist (or Backpage) came along as a major advertiser of adult services, so girls could only become an escort if they either got hired by an agency, or if they had the moxy to hang out their own shingle and advertise themselves.

Eventually, Craigslist and Backpage happened, and it was easy for some dumb pimp to advertise his girls, flooding the market, lowering average quality, and exerting downward pressure on rates; the Lehman crisis and real estate downturn exacerbated this trend. These days, I'd say hourly? I'm thinking $150 hourly for an independent young, beautiful spinner; $100-$120 if it's a regular thing. That's everything: BBBJ, GFE, BBFS (if desired), eager and smiling, squeaky clean, nice incall. I can afford more, but why pay more than it's worth? That's what the market bears, IMHO (Atlanta pricing).

If I ran an Atlanta agency, I'd probably shoot for $200/ hour, stripper / model quality girls under 25, BBBJ, CFS, GFE.

O.

[The Parrot]

Interestingly, it's gone down over the years.

In the 90's, and maybe very early 2000's, it was kind of understood than an hour with an escort was $300. That was the typical rate at the Brazilian incalls, for agency escorts, better spa girls (like the New Yorkers they used to import for the week at Gold Spa), etc. Independents usually billed about $250, though sometimes higher. This was before Craigslist (or Backpage) came along as a major advertiser of adult services, so girls could only become an escort if they either got hired by an agency, or if they had the moxy to hang out their own shingle and advertise themselves.

Eventually, Craigslist and Backpage happened, and it was easy for some dumb pimp to advertise his girls, flooding the market, lowering average quality, and exerting downward pressure on rates; the Lehman crisis and real estate downturn exacerbated this trend. These days, I'd say hourly? I'm thinking $150 hourly for an independent young, beautiful spinner; $100-$120 if it's a regular thing. That's everything: BBBJ, GFE, BBFS (if desired), eager and smiling, squeaky clean, nice incall. I can afford more, but why pay more than it's worth? That's what the market bears, IMHO (Atlanta pricing).

If I ran an Atlanta agency, I'd probably shoot for $200/ hour, stripper / model quality girls under 25, BBBJ, CFS, GFE.

O.I think 150 is too much for the BP providers, and I've never had a good session at that price point.

Paying 150 would piss me off, especially when the service turns out to be subpar or horrible.

[MrHobbyist]

Well, actually, changing the subject on price point may not be such a bad idea. It's like politics or religion. No one has ever convinced anyone their beliefs are wrong. I saw a quote on Facebook a while back. "Dude! Your constant political points of view and memes have changed my thinking completely, said no one ever!" I've participated, but now I'm bored of it so on to something new.

Anyway, my rant is this:

Begin rant. Does anyone else get tired of seeing ads from these girls with a Title like, "Sweet, companion, to cater to your needs" or "I'll treat you like a King" and then in the ad, have no this and no that for half of the ad. I don't expect these girls to be advertising experts, but even an eejit should be able to see the contradictions. My favorites are the ones that state "fetish friendly" and then go on to say, everything covered, no Greek, no GFE, no AA, no no, no, no, no. I guess there is something to be said for an easy screening, but I see so freaking many. I've gotten to where I don't even bother reading the ads anymore, I scan them, when I see no this and no that, if you do xy or z you'll be blocked ostracized and persecuted. Blah Blah Blah. I don't know, it's just an annoyance I have developed. It's not just BP, it's nearly every site including personal websites. I almost want to offer consultant services for trade to teach them how to advertise and provide better service. End rant.

[SkyHighBuilder]

Well, actually, changing the subject on price point may not be such a bad idea. It's like politics or religion. No one has ever convinced anyone their beliefs are wrong. I saw a quote on Facebook a while back. "Dude! Your constant political points of view and memes have changed my thinking completely, said no one ever!" I've participated, but now I'm bored of it so on to something new.

Anyway, my rant is this:

Begin rant. Does anyone else get tired of seeing ads from these girls with a Title like, "Sweet, companion, to cater to your needs" or "I'll treat you like a King" and then in the ad, have no this and no that for half of the ad. I don't expect these girls to be advertising experts, but even an eejit should be able to see the contradictions. My favorites are the ones that state "fetish friendly" and then go on to say, everything covered, no Greek, no GFE, no AA, no no, no, no, no. I guess there is something to be said for an easy screening, but I see so freaking many. I've gotten to where I don't even bother reading the ads anymore, I scan them, when I see no this and no that, if you do xy or z you'll be blocked ostracized and persecuted. Blah Blah Blah. I don't know, it's just an annoyance I have developed. It's not just BP, it's nearly every site including personal websites. I almost want to offer consultant services for trade to teach them how to advertise and provide better service. End rant.That freaking post was so on point I couldn't have written it better myself. I almost spewed coffee all over the keyboard reading it, LOL. I have noticed the same thing time and agian but you finally put it in words and I couldn't agree with it more. Damn I hate all the NO's and qualifiers. Especially after saying they are fetish friendly and willing to treat like a king. Imagine a consort of the King saying NO to anything he asked! She'd be 10 inches shorter the next minute, LOL!

You hit this RANT out of the park Hobbist. Thanks for expressing it and for the laughs!

[Ozymandias]

Well, actually, changing the subject on price point may not be such a bad idea. It's like politics or religion. No one has ever convinced anyone their beliefs are wrong. I saw a quote on Facebook a while back. "Dude! Your constant political points of view and memes have changed my thinking completely, said no one ever!" I've participated, but now I'm bored of it so on to something new.

Anyway, my rant is this:

Begin rant. Does anyone else get tired of seeing ads from these girls with a Title like, "Sweet, companion, to cater to your needs" or "I'll treat you like a King" and then in the ad, have no this and no that for half of the ad. I don't expect these girls to be advertising experts, but even an eejit should be able to see the contradictions. My favorites are the ones that state "fetish friendly" and then go on to say, everything covered, no Greek, no GFE, no AA, no no, no, no, no. I guess there is something to be said for an easy screening, but I see so freaking many. I've gotten to where I don't even bother reading the ads anymore, I scan them, when I see no this and no that, if you do xy or z you'll be blocked ostracized and persecuted. Blah Blah Blah. I don't know, it's just an annoyance I have developed. It's not just BP, it's nearly every site including personal websites. I almost want to offer consultant services for trade to teach them how to advertise and provide better service. End rant.Matching a good direct response copywriter with skilled, GFE escorts would literally be printing money. (And trust me, I think about it once a month or so.).

And the reality, as you note, is the opposite.

Anyone who has ever read Robert Bly's "Copywriter's Handbook" (and if you own a business or manage a portfolio of companies, this is s MUST READ) knows the importance of matching copy to headline. A good gift for the hoe in your life, perhaps!

O.

[Allen981]

I swore I was done with this idiotic theme, but since I'm mentioned.

Somehow, the idea that someone charging $60 for a quick visit "has it good" doesn't quite register with me. Sounds like a tough way to build a 401 k, pay for health insurance, and afford a mortgage or even rent.

And, as far as the jobs thing, been there done that. I've helped more than 10 ladies find jobs since 2000. Never been a hint of quid pro quo. Some work (or did) in government offices, at least 2 are certified teachers, one went to work in an insurance office, and one (the only one I still communicate with) is a very well paid writer / communications person.

All were on hard times, in almost every case relating to a dead beat spouse.

Now, given that info, I'm again done with this thread and the misogynistic trolls who spend far too much time trashing others.

And, by the way, calling anyone a "retard" is a great way to destroy your own credibility.

Selah.


It let's you look into the minds of these man puppet / simps. Its funny how all these people who agree with Allen981 all have the same mentality as him. They all have this white knight soft hearted holier than thou mentality thinking that they're somehow helping these chics by "padding the envelope" and going out of their way to "treat them with respect". Guess what, at the end of the day your still a "stupid horny trick" just like the other guy who brow beated a chic for $40 service. Just look at the backpage review thread where someone who post very few reviews and gives little to no info on the board, calls me out for not giving chics high performance scores as if they're somewhat entitled to it.

These are the same guys that will write bogus exaggerated reviews, pad the envelope before services rendered, take chics out to dinner, go shopping for these chics before they get to a chics incall, etc. These dudes are so sensitive and corny that you can literally see them crying as they read an unfavourable review or read how a guy just low-balled a chic for a $30 qv. Dudes, this is not Somalia or fucking Afghanistan! This is America, a 1st world country. None of these chics are starving or doing this out of desperation. What some of these chics are charging for an all-covered qv service, you can get for a whole night in some 3rd world countries.

These chics are the ones who are getting over on you, not the other way around. These chics can get a legal job, welfare assistance, housing assistance, free help from churches, salvation Army, Goodwill and such. None of these chics are starving. If they say they are, just ask them what happened with the last person that told them they would be there in 20 minutes and chic decided to flake on them when they got there. Ask them about the last person that offered them $60 qv but they turned it down because they thought they wete too good for $60.

Reality is, these chics have got it good. There are not too many places in the world where an unknown gal can place an ad on the internet and charge $100 for a qv and actually get customers. Try that south of the border and see how many customers she gets. These chics are fully aware of what they're doing and they're doing this out of their own free will. They do this because they want that easy quick tax free money. If you sensitive guys are so benevolent as you think you are, why not call up random providers on backpage and offer them monetary assistance with no sexual compensation.

Offer to help them find a job with no sexual favors exchanged. I bet none of you holier than thou fools will do that. You still will be browsing the escort ads looking for chics who can suck your dick right. Your still gunna pad that envelope with extra money and give chics 7-9 in performance so she can suck your dick right. In my opinion, you dudes are worse than the dudes that lowball a chic for $40 service. You guys in your warped universe and warped way of thinking are actually trying to rationalize paying for sexual favors from "dehumanized commodity ".

Get a clue you retards. Your actually adding to the dehumanization of these chics. You think she feels better because she's sucking your dick for $200, opposed to sucking Parrot Range's dick for 15 bones. Your both adding to a chics dehumanization. Your just the dumbass that decided to pay more.

[Bunnery Sgt]

I swore I was done with this idiotic theme, but since I'm mentioned.

Somehow, the idea that someone charging $60 for a quick visit "has it good" doesn't quite register with me. Sounds like a tough way to build a 401 k, pay for health insurance, and afford a mortgage or even rent.

And, as far as the jobs thing, been there done that. I've helped more than 10 ladies find jobs since 2000. Never been a hint of quid pro quo. Some work (or did) in government offices, at least 2 are certified teachers, one went to work in an insurance office, and one (the only one I still communicate with) is a very well paid writer / communications person.

All were on hard times, in almost every case relating to a dead beat spouse.

Now, given that info, I'm again done with this thread and the misogynistic trolls who spend far too much time trashing others.

Selah.Dude stop it. You buy pussy just like the rest of us. We're all the same whether you like it or not. If you care so much delete your account and stop paying money to rent their body parts. The nerve of this guy LOL. You yourself don't practice what you preach because otherwise you wouldn't have sex with some "victims" of this horrible world and assist others. How do you determine who is worthy? You sir are full of shite.

Let's have a look below at your post from the GANG BANG THREAD


Mrmojo69, thanks. Young lady at midday was off the charts, unreal enthusiastic and gorgeous. Don't know how many showed up, but you missed out if you didn't show. Thanks again.

Did you get her a job? Did you help her plan her 401k? Or did you pay money and shove your cock in her holes. Geez man you don't even realize how rediculous you sound. I don't take anyone serious who speaks of chivalry on THIS site. Least of all someone who just ran a train on a disenfranchised poor poor down on her luck temporary only vagina peddling saleswoman.

[MrHobbyist]

I swore I was done with this idiotic theme, but since I'm mentioned.

Somehow, the idea that someone charging $60 for a quick visit "has it good" doesn't quite register with me. Sounds like a tough way to build a 401 k, pay for health insurance, and afford a mortgage or even rent

Now, given that info, I'm again done with this thread and the misogynistic trolls who spend far too much time trashing others.

And, by the way, calling anyone a "retard" is a great way to destroy your own credibility.

Selah.As a mysogonist, I take offense to being called a troll by Captain Save a Ho. My question is this: why would someone partake in this hobby at all when it's obvious they have been drawn hook line and sinker into believing these woman need or even want to be "saved" it stands to reason that anyone so morally superior would be working for an advocacy group dedicated to saving hoes.

As the Captain of said organization I find it reprehensible that he would partake in the very thing he so vehemently opposes. It's akin to the hypocritical priest that preaches morality and abstinence after partaking in the joys of the alter boy the day before.

What would such a saint be doing on this particular site in the first place? I call bullshit on the high horse from which the good Captain sits. I have concluded Captain Save a Ho is baiting the crowd for attention. I don't want to ruin my credibility by stating how retarded the logic sounds, but you have to admit, it lends itself to be intellectually challenged by there mere simpleminded contradiction the idea represents.

Oh, one final thing, what the hell does selah mean anyway? I'd look it up, but I'm not sure I want that in my search history.

[MoonshineXXX]

As a mysogonist, I take offense to being called a troll by Captain Save a Ho. My question is this: why would someone partake in this hobby at all when it's obvious they have been drawn hook line and sinker into believing these woman need or even want to be "saved" it stands to reason that anyone so morally superior would be working for an advocacy group dedicated to saving hoes.

As the Captain of said organization I find it reprehensible that he would partake in the very thing he so vehemently opposes. It's akin to the hypocritical priest that preaches morality and abstinence after partaking in the joys of the alter boy the day before.

What would such a saint be doing on this particular site in the first place? I call bullshit on the high horse from which the good Captain sits. I have concluded Captain Save a Ho is baiting the crowd for attention. I don't want to ruin my credibility by stating how retarded the logic sounds, but you have to admit, it lends itself to be intellectually challenged by there mere simpleminded contradiction the idea represents.

Oh, one final thing, what the hell does selah mean anyway? I'd look it up, but I'm not sure I want that in my search history.Selah - "in the Bible, occurring frequently at the end of a verse in Psalms. " Hence the poster adding it to the end of his post. Kinda strange, but, whatever.

People often mask their self imposed guilt for their perceived moral failures by publicly proclaiming moral superiority. I guess we are all guilty of this weakness to some extent. And, perhaps, it serves some higher societal purpose by balancing things out. Who knows.

Personally, I have very much liked some of the professional ladies I have enjoyed screwing. I also have a favorite waitress at my favorite restaurant. Our personalities click. We have a connection. I may choose to leave a big tip because I'm feeling generous. Or I may want to reward exceptional service. Or I may learn through conversation that they have a need and I want to help out. The act of good will is between me and the service provider. If I delude myself into believing it's a penance, I'm just a fool. Many people delude themselves in all sorts of ways. If I pay her to "like" me, I'm setting myself up for disappointment. If I look down my nose as a superior human being and toss some change at the lady or "help" her, that's a very poor reflection on me. Personally, I just look forward to the next opportunity to patronize the lady.

I don't P2 P with anyone who hasn't invited me to do so and I don't P2 P with anyone (more than once) who doesn't enthusiastically enjoy her work. Sounds like the gangbang lady was fantastic! I would love to make her acquaintance. Perhaps, I might even give her a gift for service above and beyond the call of duty LOL.

I wish I could think of a snappy salutation, but my mind is preoccupied thinking about the gangbang girl LOL.

[Niteluvr]

Selah - "in the Bible, occurring frequently at the end of a verse in Psalms. " Hence the poster adding it to the end of his post. Kinda strange, but, whatever.

People often mask their self imposed guilt for their perceived moral failures by publicly proclaiming moral superiority. I guess we are all guilty of this weakness to some extent. And, perhaps, it serves some higher societal purpose by balancing things out. Who knows.

Personally, I have very much liked some of the professional ladies I have enjoyed screwing. I also have a favorite waitress at my favorite restaurant. Our personalities click. We have a connection. I may choose to leave a big tip because I'm feeling generous. Or I may want to reward exceptional service. Or I may learn through conversation that they have a need and I want to help out. The act of good will is between me and the service provider. If I delude myself into believing it's a penance, I'm just a fool. Many people delude themselves in all sorts of ways. If I pay her to "like" me, I'm setting myself up for disappointment. If I look down my nose as a superior human being and toss some change at the lady or "help" her, that's a very poor reflection on me. Personally, I just look forward to the next opportunity to patronize the lady.

I don't P2 P with anyone who hasn't invited me to do so and I don't P2 P with anyone (more than once) who doesn't enthusiastically enjoy her work. Sounds like the gangbang lady was fantastic! I would love to make her acquaintance. Perhaps, I might even give her a gift for service above and beyond the call of duty LOL.

I wish I could think of a snappy salutation, but my mind is preoccupied thinking about the gangbang girl LOL.Great post. I despise hypocrisy.

[Head Hunting]

http://atlanta.backpage.com/WomenSeekMen/mature-lightskin-woman-hot-thick-super-sexy/61867078

I'm getting tired of the fake shit. Rant over.

[Stormrider]

I swore I was done with this idiotic theme, but since I'm mentioned.

Somehow, the idea that someone charging $60 for a quick visit "has it good" doesn't quite register with me. Sounds like a tough way to build a 401 k, pay for health insurance, and afford a mortgage or even rent.

And, as far as the jobs thing, been there done that. I've helped more than 10 ladies find jobs since 2000. Never been a hint of quid pro quo. Some work (or did) in government offices, at least 2 are certified teachers, one went to work in an insurance office, and one (the only one I still communicate with) is a very well paid writer / communications person.

All were on hard times, in almost every case relating to a dead beat spouse.

Now, given that info, I'm again done with this thread and the misogynistic trolls who spend far too much time trashing others.

And, by the way, calling anyone a "retard" is a great way to destroy your own credibility.

Selah.Kind of like bitching and griping about someone's lack of helping an escort dig her way out of a situation that may be entirely of her own making. And bragging about your own efforts makes you look worse.

[JeffInnAtlanta]

http://atlanta.backpage.com/WomenSeekMen/mature-lightskin-woman-hot-thick-super-sexy/61867078

I'm getting tired of the fake shit. Rant over.I think at MarioRincon67 would beg to differ.

[Head Hunting]

I think at MarioRincon67 would beg to differ.Well, when I do an image search this is the chick that comes up. I would guess photoshop because her other pics look way worse than the one in the backpage ad.

Either way, this chick has no shortage of pics and she could have given a better representation of what she looks like TODAY.

https://twitter.com/Bambi4u269/status/870278796297023488/photo/1

[MrHobbyist]

Well, when I do an image search this is the chick that comes up. I would guess photoshop because her other pics look way worse than the one in the backpage ad.

Either way, this chick has no shortage of pics and she could have given a better representation of what she looks like TODAY.

https://twitter.com/Bambi4u269/status/870278796297023488/photo/1If she's 38, I'm 18.

[Johnny Mapalo]

Another rant is now in session.

First off, why in 2017 are dudes still paying for hour long sessions with unknown unreviewed backpage chics. Haven't we written about this for a hundred umpteen times already. Buds, don't ever pay for hour sessions with unknown unreviewed backpage chics. That's nothing short of monetary suicide. If you want to throw about 2,3 400 bucks spend it on a "well-reviewed" provider or go through a reputable agency. Do not waste your hard-earned bread on some unknown retard on backpage. There are no filters or job requirements to place an ad as an escort on backpage. Any jackass with an internet connection can place on ad on backpage.

Stop thinking that just because she has an ad on backpage and calls herself "upscale" and gives you an "upscale" price, that she's actually upscale. Any jackass can write any ole nonsense in their ad and quote you any ole ridiculous rate when they damn well know that they're not even worth half of what they're asking for. Truth is, most chics that post "upscale" anything in their ads are very far from upscale and only place that there to convince themselves that they are actually "upscale". Most chics that quote you $100 qv or better are only out to rip you off. Your really only paying for looks and sometimes location at that rate. If you were paying for service only, you would only pay $20 because that's about all their service is worth.

I better not see another one of you dudes getting ripped off for $250-$300 for an hour with some unknown unreviewed backpage chic. Stop overpaying these con-artist. Get some got damned intelligence. Spend that type of money on a well-reviewed provider or an agency chic. Backpage chics are nothing more than $40-$60 qv chics. That's it!! Stop overpaying! Sheesh!! Also, you dudes got to realize that these chics stay in business because of you dudes who continue to overpay their asses. Once they see that they caught them a sucka for $250/ hour, it encourages them to keep posting in hopes of catching another sucka at $250/ hour. They figure if one person pays, then their ad is working and someone else will be willing to pay it.

Another thing, these chics are the most ungreatful, lazy, violent people that you will ever meet. I've been to several chics incall and when they weren't the chic in the pics, I called them out on it and these broads acted like they wanted to straight up square up with me. They were adamant about them being the chics in the pics and some even tried to strong arm me for my money. Some threatened to scream if I didn't give them the money, others tried to snatch the money from right out of my hands and others threatened to call their pimps next door. I'm telling you, some of these fuckas will try to get violent with you if you try to leave without paying. Beware of that.

And when you do give them the money, they give you this half assed covered BJ for 2 minutes and bend over in doggie and think that's all you want. You ask for other positions and they start copping attitude and giving you a list of shit they don't do. Alot of chics on backpage are not even into sex. You would be surprised at how many closet lesbians and bi-sexuals post ads on backpage. It doesn't even make any fucking sense. If you don't like men, then why place an ad on an escorting site targeting men. Stupid. These are the most laziest, stupidest, confused chics I've ever came across. They want to get money and they don't want to do anything for it. They feel as though, they're entitled to your money.

So many of these chics have stank attitudes over the phone and expect you to patronize their services. You ask them about their services over the phone they want to hang up the phone on you. You ask them about their services when you get there, they want to cop an attitude, citing you could be the police. Yeah right!! The real reason they don't want to talk about their services is because they don't plan to provide much of any service. They just want to get your money and get you out of there asap. Trust me. The majority of those backpage chics are of the business of getting you in and out asap.

Their friends tell them about backpage and they all work out of the same hotel and post ads night and day trying to hustle fast money. They really could care less if you leave satisfied or nothing. And where a chic works has nothing to do with what kind of service you will get. Just because a chic is working out of a nice hotel in Buckhead and charging $250/ hour, that doesn't mean your getting some upscale princess with impeccable hygiene and A1 service. I've seen chics in upscale condo's in Buckhead and when they took their clothes off they were smelling rank as a fucking ram goat.

Likewise, I've been to shitty motels in the "hood" to see $40 chics and the chic was smelling fresh and clean the whole time and the service was actually good. Location and price doesn't jack shit. It's all about the individual. Don't think for once that your paying for some quality upscale chic just because she went on priceline and got a hotel in Buckhead for the low low. Any jackass can get a hotel in Buckhead and throw an ad up on backpage with $100 qv special. Don't be gullible. Your only paying for location and looks. That's it! The times I went to see chics for $100 qv in those areas, the service was garbage!! A list of "no, no, no" and the chic had no interest in her work. She only wanted the $100.

Also, what's this thing as of late where dudes are asking "has anyone seen such and such" and guys come out and say "yes, I've seen her many times. I've been dropping raw loads in her for years". When you skim through those guys threads, you see no reviews written on the chic that they have been dumping raw loads into for years. I mean like, when were you planning on writing your review, after a few more years of dumping raw loads in her. This review site is so one-side it ain't even funny. You have about 2 handful of people that regularly post meaningful reviews and then you have over 100 countless others who do nothing but leech and lurk night and day. Dudes finally coming out from under their rocks and posting about "long time lurker here, so I finally thought I'd give back after mooching for over a decade".

This is fucking ridiculous. What is it that actually makes these leechers come out and finally post something of value after all these years? Guilty conscious? You even have some senior dudes on here that are holding on to review for years and only post when someone ask "has anyone seen her". If you don't post and no one else post, then how can we have much of a falking review site. And the funny thing is, these leechers are the same ones that will pm you once you write a review, asking you for more information. As if my free information that I posted in public wasn't enough. You fucking leechers, non-review posters and free- loaders, I can't stand your asses.

Then you have these guys with like 5 or 6 post telling a dude with 1-2 post to get your weight up. Telling them to stop asking for info and post info first before any gives you any information. The funny thing is, these fuckas haven't posted anything worthwhile their damn selves. They got 6 post of begging for information, yet they're telling someone with 1-2 post to stop begging for information. The irony. This site is so damn ridiculous it's not even funny. You also have some people that made their name from the gangbang thread. These fuckas don't have any post except for posting in the gangbang thread. And these fuckas haven't even set up any gangbangs or found any hoes to participate in the gangbang. They merely begged and pm'ed their way into the gangbang.

They offer no information of their own, yet they tell guys with 1-2 post to get their weight up before asking for information. What about you get your weight up first, buddy. You haven't posted anything of any significance yourself, you just begged your way into attending every gang bang. If it wasn't for the gangbang thread you would have been still leeching and lurking for many more years. Pitiful.

More to come.

[Admin2]

Then you have these guys with like 5 or 6 post telling a dude with 1-2 post to get your weight up.Preach.

A2.

[Bunnery Sgt]

You even have some senior dudes on here that are holding on to review for years and only post when someone ask "has anyone seen her". If you don't post and no one else post, then how can we have much of a falking review site.
I actually read your entire post for the first time and I agree with most of it. I will say that I am guilty of the above. I will most definitely remain guilty for a long time. There is a reason every single chick isn't shared right away on this site. Every now and again I will forget about her after cuffing for so long until somebody brings her up months down the line. So what? I can't tell you how many times I have posted about a chick only for her service to change or price to go up because some dick wad decides to gas her head up or show her the reviews on this site. I am sure you would not understand that because 90 percent of the chicks you post about suck. I will say I can appreciate the fact that you have TOFFT so many times though LOL.

[Niteluvr]

There is a reason every single chick isn't shared right away on this site. Every now and again I will forget about her after cuffing for so long until somebody brings her up months down the line. So what? I can't tell you how many times I have posted about a chick only for her service to change or price to go up because some dick wad decides to gas her head up or show her the reviews on this site. Very well said!

[The Parrot]

Another rant is now in session.

First off, why in 2017 are dudes still paying for hour long sessions with unknown unreviewed backpage chics. Haven't we written about this for a hundred umpteen times already. Buds, don't ever pay for hour sessions with unknown unreviewed backpage chics. That's nothing short of monetary suicide. If you want to throw about 2,3 400 bucks spend it on a "well-reviewed" provider or go through a reputable agency. Do not waste your hard-earned bread on some unknown retard on backpage. There are no filters or job requirements to place an ad as an escort on backpage. Any jackass with an internet connection can place on ad on backpage.

Stop thinking that just because she has an ad on backpage and calls herself "upscale" and gives you an "upscale" price, that she's actually upscale. Any jackass can write any ole nonsense in their ad and quote you any ole ridiculous rate when they damn well know that they're not even worth half of what they're asking for. Truth is, most chics that post "upscale" anything in their ads are very far from upscale and only place that there to convince themselves that they are actually "upscale". Most chics that quote you $100 qv or better are only out to rip you off. Your really only paying for looks and sometimes location at that rate. If you were paying for service only, you would only pay $20 because that's about all their service is worth.

I better not see another one of you dudes getting ripped off for $250-$300 for an hour with some unknown unreviewed backpage chic. Stop overpaying these con-artist. Get some got damned intelligence. Spend that type of money on a well-reviewed provider or an agency chic. Backpage chics are nothing more than $40-$60 qv chics. That's it!! Stop overpaying! Sheesh!! Also, you dudes got to realize that these chics stay in business because of you dudes who continue to overpay their asses. Once they see that they caught them a sucka for $250/ hour, it encourages them to keep posting in hopes of catching another sucka at $250/ hour. They figure if one person pays, then their ad is working and someone else will be willing to pay it.

Another thing, these chics are the most ungreatful, lazy, violent people that you will ever meet. I've been to several chics incall and when they weren't the chic in the pics, I called them out on it and these broads acted like they wanted to straight up square up with me. They were adamant about them being the chics in the pics and some even tried to strong arm me for my money. Some threatened to scream if I didn't give them the money, others tried to snatch the money from right out of my hands and others threatened to call their pimps next door. I'm telling you, some of these fuckas will try to get violent with you if you try to leave without paying. Beware of that.

And when you do give them the money, they give you this half assed covered BJ for 2 minutes and bend over in doggie and think that's all you want. You ask for other positions and they start copping attitude and giving you a list of shit they don't do. Alot of chics on backpage are not even into sex. You would be surprised at how many closet lesbians and bi-sexuals post ads on backpage. It doesn't even make any fucking sense. If you don't like men, then why place an ad on an escorting site targeting men. Stupid. These are the most laziest, stupidest, confused chics I've ever came across. They want to get money and they don't want to do anything for it. They feel as though, they're entitled to your money.

So many of these chics have stank attitudes over the phone and expect you to patronize their services. You ask them about their services over the phone they want to hang up the phone on you. You ask them about their services when you get there, they want to cop an attitude, citing you could be the police. Yeah right!! The real reason they don't want to talk about their services is because they don't plan to provide much of any service. They just want to get your money and get you out of there asap. Trust me. The majority of those backpage chics are of the business of getting you in and out asap.

Their friends tell them about backpage and they all work out of the same hotel and post ads night and day trying to hustle fast money. They really could care less if you leave satisfied or nothing. And where a chic works has nothing to do with what kind of service you will get. Just because a chic is working out of a nice hotel in Buckhead and charging $250/ hour, that doesn't mean your getting some upscale princess with impeccable hygiene and A1 service. I've seen chics in upscale condo's in Buckhead and when they took their clothes off they were smelling rank as a fucking ram goat.

Likewise, I've been to shitty motels in the "hood" to see $40 chics and the chic was smelling fresh and clean the whole time and the service was actually good. Location and price doesn't jack shit. It's all about the individual. Don't think for once that your paying for some quality upscale chic just because she went on priceline and got a hotel in Buckhead for the low low. Any jackass can get a hotel in Buckhead and throw an ad up on backpage with $100 qv special. Don't be gullible. Your only paying for location and looks. That's it! The times I went to see chics for $100 qv in those areas, the service was garbage!! A list of "no, no, no" and the chic had no interest in her work. She only wanted the $100.

Also, what's this thing as of late where dudes are asking "has anyone seen such and such" and guys come out and say "yes, I've seen her many times. I've been dropping raw loads in her for years". When you skim through those guys threads, you see no reviews written on the chic that they have been dumping raw loads into for years. I mean like, when were you planning on writing your review, after a few more years of dumping raw loads in her. This review site is so one-side it ain't even funny. You have about 2 handful of people that regularly post meaningful reviews and then you have over 100 countless others who do nothing but leech and lurk night and day. Dudes finally coming out from under their rocks and posting about "long time lurker here, so I finally thought I'd give back after mooching for over a decade".

This is fucking ridiculous. What is it that actually makes these leechers come out and finally post something of value after all these years? Guilty conscious? You even have some senior dudes on here that are holding on to review for years and only post when someone ask "has anyone seen her". If you don't post and no one else post, then how can we have much of a falking review site. And the funny thing is, these leechers are the same ones that will pm you once you write a review, asking you for more information. As if my free information that I posted in public wasn't enough. You fucking leechers, non-review posters and free- loaders, I can't stand your asses.

Then you have these guys with like 5 or 6 post telling a dude with 1-2 post to get your weight up. Telling them to stop asking for info and post info first before any gives you any information. The funny thing is, these fuckas haven't posted anything worthwhile their damn selves. They got 6 post of begging for information, yet they're telling someone with 1-2 post to stop begging for information. The irony. This site is so damn ridiculous it's not even funny. You also have some people that made their name from the gangbang thread. These fuckas don't have any post except for posting in the gangbang thread. And these fuckas haven't even set up any gangbangs or found any hoes to participate in the gangbang. They merely begged and pm'ed their way into the gangbang.

They offer no information of their own, yet they tell guys with 1-2 post to get their weight up before asking for information. What about you get your weight up first, buddy. You haven't posted anything of any significance yourself, you just begged your way into attending every gang bang. If it wasn't for the gangbang thread you would have been still leeching and lurking for many more years. Pitiful.

More to come.I see you are still preaching to the choir LOL. Give it up like I did, these so called "men" are not going to change.

Simps are food for these wannabe BP providers. I don't believe any BP chick is worth 150 or more. Unless you're getting a very long session in a high class area, and she has perfect hygiene.

Watch some idiot reply and try to justify simping for these birds.

Manhood is a lost art, so many educated lames with chips these days. The same types to get taken to the cleaners by their ugly and overweight wives.

Rob Kardashian is SIMP of the year though. Nobody can be a bigger sucker than him, NOBODY!!

[Wleakr]

Rob Kardashian is SIMP of the year though. Nobody can be a bigger sucker than him, NOBODY!!It's hard for me to believe this guy is a simp. Or at least a complete one! All Kardashians are about getting attention which brings in more money. There was no way he couldn't know what he was getting with Blac Chyna! All this stuff going on now will probably lead right into their next reality show. Need the drama to sell the show!

[The Parrot]

It's hard for me to believe this guy is a simp. Or at least a complete one! All Kardashians are about getting attention which brings in more money. There was no way he couldn't know what he was getting with Blac Chyna! All this stuff going on now will probably lead right into their next reality show. Need the drama to sell the show!Having a child with a thot / stripper was an INTENDED move by Rob?

I doubt otan, she is going to drain his pockets with child support.

[Wleakr]

Having a child with a thot / stripper was an INTENDED move by Rob?

I doubt otan, she is going to drain his pockets with child support.Doubt he intended to make a baby with a thot, but he probably did want a baby with somebody and she was there. I do think she intended to get preggo by Rob, though! And really since all his sisters and momma are thots, Chyna fits right in. Drama keeps people watching and advertisers coming, which equals $$. They even got Chyna interviewing on freaking Good Morning America and Nightline!

But I will say, for a thot, Chyna can cook her azz off and can obviously twerk on a dick, so those are qualities that can sucker a lot of guys, especially a guy that obviously likes to eat like Rob!

Yeah, Rob is a simp, no question, but the bigger simps are us common folks that keep making the Kardashians relevant and lining their pockets with riches.

[The Parrot]

Doubt he intended to make a baby with a thot, but he probably did want a baby with somebody and she was there. I do think she intended to get preggo by Rob, though! And really since all his sisters and momma are thots, Chyna fits right in. Drama keeps people watching and advertisers coming, which equals $$. They even got Chyna interviewing on freaking Good Morning America and Nightline!

But I will say, for a thot, Chyna can cook her azz off and can obviously twerk on a dick, so those are qualities that can sucker a lot of guys, especially a guy that obviously likes to eat like Rob!

Yeah, Rob is a simp, no question, but the bigger simps are us common folks that keep making the Kardashians relevant and lining their pockets with riches.Black Chyna made a HUGE come up off of Rob and Tyga.

I bet she is going to keep doing interviews, plus she made money from that reality show they had.

I bet she is going to release one of those tell all books like karrine steffans (aka superhead! And get even richer!!

Thots / strippers and hoez are winning like crazy these days! Idiots are even marrying these birds!

[CaptainSleepy]

I am a fairly well off man, I am having issues finding a decent SB to hang out with. I have had two so far in Atlanta, and both of them have hard core drug problems. Both hid it from me. So I am asking besides SA, where to find a regular SB at? Its slightly frustrating, but any advice is fine. Until then I am just going from one provider to the next and rotating them.

Help me out please!

[BigMoney21]

Bro I tell you, the streets are full of weirdos and fuck nickels! I remember back in the days I used to post crucial information on SW activity and give out # to anyone who PM me. That was the biggest mistake in my life! I was getting messaged like crazy by guys with zero posts and they was describing in broken English how they want to have sex really bad with some woman I was talking about on the forum. At the time it made me wish there was a option in the inbox to block these crazy cocks from sending me those messages however it stopped after I spoke out against the shit and limited my valuable intel. The straw that really broke the camels back when I found myself getting stalked by forum readers and by some who I decided to share information with. These nuts was just trailing behind me every corner I was turning and I can still remember like yesterday when I gave this one blogger a SW # and the guy saw me pick her up. And decided to follow us like crazy. And he was turning on his high beam lights I reached down to grab my piece and he eventually straighten up. The woman who was in the car with me told me the jack ass got her number from nowhere she decided to take a risk with him and she decided to not see him any longer because the guy seems crazy. I don't know I always thought piece of shits like that helped killed off the last of the SW game. It really doesn't boil down to the area you're in but the people who decides to participate in the activity.


Well you in one of Atlanta dangerous areas that the police don't even go in hardly so could have been trouble glad you was packin those some balls to play kid looking for SW in that area late at night.

[Admin2]

Bro I tell you, the streets are full of weirdos and fuck nickels! I remember back in the days I used to post crucial information on SW activity and give out # to anyone who PM me. That was the biggest mistake in my life! I was getting messaged like crazy by guys with zero posts and they was describing in broken English how they want to have sex really bad with some woman I was talking about on the forum. At the time it made me wish there was a option in the inbox to block these crazy cocks from sending me those messages however it stopped after I spoke out against the shit and limited my valuable intel. The straw that really broke the camels back when I found myself getting stalked by forum readers and by some who I decided to share information with. These nuts was just trailing behind me every corner I was turning and I can still remember like yesterday when I gave this one blogger a SW # and the guy saw me pick her up. And decided to follow us like crazy. And he was turning on his high beam lights I reached down to grab my piece and he eventually straighten up. The woman who was in the car with me told me the jack ass got her number from nowhere she decided to take a risk with him and she decided to not see him any longer because the guy seems crazy. I don't know I always thought piece of shits like that helped killed off the last of the SW game. It really doesn't boil down to the area you're in but the people who decides to participate in the activity.You mean to tell me that there are crazy people on the internet? Who would have thought that?

Just fucking everybody is all. I've been posting on these forums as a monger for nearly 14 years and I've never had a problem. Why? Because I don't let people know who I am. I get lots of weird PM's as well see where it says "delete. " It's not that hard.

And some guy found you because you gave him some hookers phone number? This is what you're saying, you gave him a number, he calls a streetwalker, from calling the streetwalker he dates her and of all the bat shit crazy motherfuckers this hooker meets in a week, the one has to be the one you gave a number to?

Read about pussy, write about pussy, go fuck the pussy then write and read more it's not complicated.

A2.

[Alin Srq]

Another rant is now in session.

First off, why in 2017 are dudes still paying for hour long sessions with unknown unreviewed backpage chics. Haven't we written about this for a hundred umpteen times already. Buds, don't ever pay for hour sessions with unknown unreviewed backpage chics. That's nothing short of monetary suicide. If you want to throw about 2,3 400 bucks spend it on a "well-reviewed" provider or go through a reputable agency. Do not waste your hard-earned bread on some unknown retard on backpage. There are no filters or job requirements to place an ad as an escort on backpage. Any jackass with an internet connection can place on ad on backpage.

Stop thinking that just because she has an ad on backpage and calls herself "upscale" and gives you an "upscale" price, that she's actually upscale. Any jackass can write any ole nonsense in their ad and quote you any ole ridiculous rate when they damn well know that they're not even worth half of what they're asking for. Truth is, most chics that post "upscale" anything in their ads are very far from upscale and only place that there to convince themselves that they are actually "upscale". Most chics that quote you $100 qv or better are only out to rip you off. Your really only paying for looks and sometimes location at that rate. If you were paying for service only, you would only pay $20 because that's about all their service is worth.

I better not see another one of you dudes getting ripped off for $250-$300 for an hour with some unknown unreviewed backpage chic. Stop overpaying these con-artist. Get some got damned intelligence. Spend that type of money on a well-reviewed provider or an agency chic. Backpage chics are nothing more than $40-$60 qv chics. That's it!! Stop overpaying! Sheesh!! Also, you dudes got to realize that these chics stay in business because of you dudes who continue to overpay their asses. Once they see that they caught them a sucka for $250/ hour, it encourages them to keep posting in hopes of catching another sucka at $250/ hour. They figure if one person pays, then their ad is working and someone else will be willing to pay it.

Another thing, these chics are the most ungreatful, lazy, violent people that you will ever meet. I've been to several chics incall and when they weren't the chic in the pics, I called them out on it and these broads acted like they wanted to straight up square up with me. They were adamant about them being the chics in the pics and some even tried to strong arm me for my money. Some threatened to scream if I didn't give them the money, others tried to snatch the money from right out of my hands and others threatened to call their pimps next door. I'm telling you, some of these fuckas will try to get violent with you if you try to leave without paying. Beware of that.

And when you do give them the money, they give you this half assed covered BJ for 2 minutes and bend over in doggie and think that's all you want. You ask for other positions and they start copping attitude and giving you a list of shit they don't do. Alot of chics on backpage are not even into sex. You would be surprised at how many closet lesbians and bi-sexuals post ads on backpage. It doesn't even make any fucking sense. If you don't like men, then why place an ad on an escorting site targeting men. Stupid. These are the most laziest, stupidest, confused chics I've ever came across. They want to get money and they don't want to do anything for it. They feel as though, they're entitled to your money.

So many of these chics have stank attitudes over the phone and expect you to patronize their services. You ask them about their services over the phone they want to hang up the phone on you. You ask them about their services when you get there, they want to cop an attitude, citing you could be the police. Yeah right!! The real reason they don't want to talk about their services is because they don't plan to provide much of any service. They just want to get your money and get you out of there asap. Trust me. The majority of those backpage chics are of the business of getting you in and out asap.

Their friends tell them about backpage and they all work out of the same hotel and post ads night and day trying to hustle fast money. They really could care less if you leave satisfied or nothing. And where a chic works has nothing to do with what kind of service you will get. Just because a chic is working out of a nice hotel in Buckhead and charging $250/ hour, that doesn't mean your getting some upscale princess with impeccable hygiene and A1 service. I've seen chics in upscale condo's in Buckhead and when they took their clothes off they were smelling rank as a fucking ram goat.

Likewise, I've been to shitty motels in the "hood" to see $40 chics and the chic was smelling fresh and clean the whole time and the service was actually good. Location and price doesn't jack shit. It's all about the individual. Don't think for once that your paying for some quality upscale chic just because she went on priceline and got a hotel in Buckhead for the low low. Any jackass can get a hotel in Buckhead and throw an ad up on backpage with $100 qv special. Don't be gullible. Your only paying for location and looks. That's it! The times I went to see chics for $100 qv in those areas, the service was garbage!! A list of "no, no, no" and the chic had no interest in her work. She only wanted the $100.

Also, what's this thing as of late where dudes are asking "has anyone seen such and such" and guys come out and say "yes, I've seen her many times. I've been dropping raw loads in her for years". When you skim through those guys threads, you see no reviews written on the chic that they have been dumping raw loads into for years. I mean like, when were you planning on writing your review, after a few more years of dumping raw loads in her. This review site is so one-side it ain't even funny. You have about 2 handful of people that regularly post meaningful reviews and then you have over 100 countless others who do nothing but leech and lurk night and day. Dudes finally coming out from under their rocks and posting about "long time lurker here, so I finally thought I'd give back after mooching for over a decade".

This is fucking ridiculous. What is it that actually makes these leechers come out and finally post something of value after all these years? Guilty conscious? You even have some senior dudes on here that are holding on to review for years and only post when someone ask "has anyone seen her". If you don't post and no one else post, then how can we have much of a falking review site. And the funny thing is, these leechers are the same ones that will pm you once you write a review, asking you for more information. As if my free information that I posted in public wasn't enough. You fucking leechers, non-review posters and free- loaders, I can't stand your asses.

Then you have these guys with like 5 or 6 post telling a dude with 1-2 post to get your weight up. Telling them to stop asking for info and post info first before any gives you any information. The funny thing is, these fuckas haven't posted anything worthwhile their damn selves. They got 6 post of begging for information, yet they're telling someone with 1-2 post to stop begging for information. The irony. This site is so damn ridiculous it's not even funny. You also have some people that made their name from the gangbang thread. These fuckas don't have any post except for posting in the gangbang thread. And these fuckas haven't even set up any gangbangs or found any hoes to participate in the gangbang. They merely begged and pm'ed their way into the gangbang.

They offer no information of their own, yet they tell guys with 1-2 post to get their weight up before asking for information. What about you get your weight up first, buddy. You haven't posted anything of any significance yourself, you just begged your way into attending every gang bang. If it wasn't for the gangbang thread you would have been still leeching and lurking for many more years. Pitiful.

More to come.This is classic gospel preaching. This should be mandated to be read by every mother fucker who has ever spent a dime on pussy.

[MrHobbyist]

Another rant is now in session.

First off, why in 2017 are dudes still paying for hour long sessions with unknown unreviewed backpage chics. Haven't we written about this for a hundred umpteen times already. Buds, don't ever pay for hour sessions with unknown unreviewed backpage chics. That's nothing short of monetary suicide..

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They want to get money and they don't want to do anything for it. They feel as though, they're entitled to your money.

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The real reason they don't want to talk about their services is because they don't plan to provide much of any service.

A list of "no, no, no" and the chic had no interest in her work. She only wanted the $100.

Also, what's this thing as of late where dudes are asking "has anyone seen such and such" and guys come out and say "yes, I've seen her many times. I've been dropping raw loads in her for years". When you skim through those guys threads, you see no reviews written on the chic that they have been dumping raw loads into for years. I mean like, when were you planning on writing your review, after a few more years of dumping raw loads in her. This review site is so one-side it ain't even funny. You have about 2 handful of people that regularly post meaningful reviews and then you have over 100 countless others who do nothing but leech and lurk night and day. Dudes finally coming out from under their rocks and posting about "long time lurker here, so I finally thought I'd give back after mooching for over a decade".

This is fucking ridiculous. What is it that actually makes these leechers come out and finally post something of value after all these years? Guilty conscious? You even have some senior dudes on here that are holding on to review for years and only post when someone ask "has anyone seen her". If you don't post and no one else post, then how can we have much of a falking review site. And the funny thing is, these leechers are the same ones that will pm you once you write a review, asking you for more information. As if my free information that I posted in public wasn't enough. You fucking leechers, non-review posters and free- loaders, I can't stand your asses.

More to come.Johnny Says what most of us think! Thanks Johnny. Keep it up.

[MrHobbyist]

This is classic gospel preaching. This should be mandated to be read by every mother fucker who has ever spent a dime on pussy.It should be placed on the noob intro page.

[Member #5837]

You mean to tell me that there are crazy people on the internet? Who would have thought that?

Just fucking everybody is all. I've been posting on these forums as a monger for nearly 14 years and I've never had a problem. Why? Because I don't let people know who I am. I get lots of weird PM's as well see where it says "delete. " It's not that hard.

And some guy found you because you gave him some hookers phone number? This is what you're saying, you gave him a number, he calls a streetwalker, from calling the streetwalker he dates her and of all the bat shit crazy motherfuckers this hooker meets in a week, the one has to be the one you gave a number to?

Read about pussy, write about pussy, go fuck the pussy then write and read more it's not complicated.

A2.At A2 that's absolutely hilarious! That hast to be the quote of the year: "Read about pussy, write about pussy, go fuck the pussy then write and read more it's not complicated. ".

[Sgt Soros]

Ok, can someone explain the logic/reasoning behind this providers no AA policy. Based on her looks, skin color, ass size etc her demographic clientele market are going to be AA males....lol

http://atlanta.backpage.com/WomenSeekMen/cume-let-me-drain-all-your-juice-serious-men-only/72459918

[TexasMonger]

Ok, can someone explain the logic/reasoning behind this providers no AA policy. Based on her looks, skin color, ass size etc her demographic clientele market are going to be AA males....lol

http://atlanta.backpage.com/WomenSeekMen/cume-let-me-drain-all-your-juice-serious-men-only/72459918I totally disagree with you, I, like many other middle aged white males have an affinity to WOC providers just like her. She is hot and I'm sure if I was close by I will not hesitate to pay her a visit.

Cheers.

TM.

[The Parrot]

Ok, can someone explain the logic/reasoning behind this providers no AA policy. Based on her looks, skin color, ass size etc her demographic clientele market are going to be AA males....lol

http://atlanta.backpage.com/WomenSeekMen/cume-let-me-drain-all-your-juice-serious-men-only/72459918Man lets please stop talking about this. Let which ever povider worship whatever type of trick she want to. At the end of the day they are all tricking, and she is a bird. You shouldn't worry about what a bird says, her occupation says enough about her.

[Rub101]

Ok, can someone explain the logic/reasoning behind this providers no AA policy. Based on her looks, skin color, ass size etc her demographic clientele market are going to be AA males....lol

http://atlanta.backpage.com/WomenSeekMen/cume-let-me-drain-all-your-juice-serious-men-only/72459918They can choose who they want just like us. Just go on to the next, LOL.

[Cbonia2]

Ok, can someone explain the logic/reasoning behind this providers no AA policy. Based on her looks, skin color, ass size etc her demographic clientele market are going to be AA males....lol

http://atlanta.backpage.com/WomenSeekMen/cume-let-me-drain-all-your-juice-serious-men-only/72459918Obviously, business isn't hurting her requirements. Too many Mongers out there!

[Sgt Soros]

Obviously, business isn't hurting her requirements. Too many Mongers out there!Maybe, maybe not! I'm often heard at most agencies with a mix of girls there is often a much greater client demand for blondes, Asians and Latina girls. Just saying! I just found it curious and have no skin in this issue. I'm perfectly A-ok with the mix of UTR girls, I have currently.

[P Connoisseur]

Well said Sgt. I just like sweet women who treat me special.


Maybe, maybe not! I'm often heard at most agencies with a mix of girls there is often a much greater client demand for blondes, Asians and Latina girls. Just saying! I just found it curious and have no skin in this issue. I'm perfectly A-ok with the mix of UTR girls, I have currently.

[Niteluvr]

Ok, can someone explain the logic/reasoning behind this providers no AA policy. Based on her looks, skin color, ass size etc her demographic clientele market are going to be AA males....lol

http://atlanta.backpage.com/WomenSeekMen/cume-let-me-drain-all-your-juice-serious-men-only/72459918It's the typical "safe" route, target white, middle-aged males who are less likely to put up a fuss for shitty service. It's not a direct snub of AA mongers.

[NewDude]

I get tickled silly when a guy posts how he was ripped off by a white spinner when I click the ad the first thing that catches my eye is NO AA.LOL. You guys are right providers have preferences but please guys beware of the super sexy (insert race) spinners who post on backpage and don't want to see black guys, if the service was good they would not be on BP. Also just a bit of game for newbies, do not trust reviews for white spinners, the enormous demand causes delusion in those that see them and awful service becomes good and bad service often transforms into GFE or "she was great with me but you YMMV".

[The Parrot]

I get tickled silly when a guy posts how he was ripped off by a white spinner when I click the ad the first thing that catches my eye is NO AA.LOL. You guys are right providers have preferences but please guys beware of the super sexy (insert race) spinners who post on backpage and don't want to see black guys, if the service was good they would not be on BP. Also just a bit of game for newbies, do not trust reviews for white spinners, the enormous demand causes delusion in those that see them and awful service becomes good and bad service often transforms into GFE or "she was great with me but you YMMV".Yep, spinners are definitely in high demand and a little overrated if you ask me.

I would choose Cherokee or crystal clear over Taylor Swift any day.

Taylor Swift has no tits or azz, I view that as masculine. A lot of those spinners have the physique of a 12 year old boy!!

I do like petite women with a little meat on their bones though. People here think I love fat and sloppy women, but it's not true. I will see an overweight provider if their head game is on point, or they have massive Juggs, or a massive SHAPELY booty.

One of my favorites was a big booty bbw who went by the name Christol. She changed her number and I haven't seen her post anymore.

She would drive to my place from South Georgia ONLY for 40 bones, and I would spend 30-45 minutes drilling her big round booty. She was a cute Lightskinned girl too.

You are entitled to your attraction, but don't be BLINDED by lust.

A lot of those spinner type providers give poor service or try to scam guys. They know they are in high demand by certain types of men who have a lot of money to waste on them.

Come on mongers, grow a backbone and DEMAND good service. Don't hesitate to walk out on a ride spinner.

[The Parrot]

http://www.businessinsider.com/executive-investigated-for-spending-company-credit-card-2017-8

This old simp is completely pathetic!! He is the EPITOME of a beta male simp. , Despite making alpha male money.

Some of these highly educated billionaires are so stupid and careless with their money. They make capitalism look like a joke; those idiots have too much money.

Here some cliff notes below for the lazy:

A former executive is suspected of letting an escort he met online spend $5. 8 million on the company's credit card on plastic surgery and a mansion.

That guy is an executive, yet making simpleton decisions.

Wake up idiots!! There are many people JUST LIKE HIM who are reading this right now. Develop a pair of balls for one time in your life "men. ".

Pathetic simp deserves death, I wonder what Oz has to say about this. How will he explain this away??

[Niteluvr]

http://www.businessinsider.com/executive-investigated-for-spending-company-credit-card-2017-8

This old simp is completely pathetic!! He is the EPITOME of a beta male simp. , Despite making alpha male money.

Some of these highly educated billionaires are so stupid and careless with their money. They make capitalism look like a joke; those idiots have too much money.

Here some cliff notes below for the lazy:

A former executive is suspected of letting an escort he met online spend $5. 8 million on the company's credit card on plastic surgery and a mansion.

That guy is an executive, yet making simpleton decisions.

Wake up idiots!! There are many people JUST LIKE HIM who are reading this right now. Develop a pair of balls for one time in your life "men. ".

Pathetic simp deserves death, I wonder what Oz has to say about this. How will he explain this away??There are no words for guys that stupid. To bilk your own company out of millions and ruin your existence for any woman? He needs to fall hard and not get up for a long time.

[The Parrot]

There are no words for guys that stupid. To bilk your own company out of millions and ruin your existence for any woman? He needs to fall hard and not get up for a long time.Yep, he is a complete idiot.

It's funny how the simps have nothing to say about this. They just want to sweep it under the rug!! How pathetic!!

Money and manhood are two different things, manhood is a lost art these days. Even for executives "on top of the world. ".

[Coalburner69]

My mistake, I thought that USASG was affiliated with ISG.

The USASG is affiliated with the ISG and you can't review the posts put up by members there either. Both of the sites are places for you to write reviews about chicks you have fucked. They are not sites for you to troll guys telling them what they are doing wrong when they have fucked somebody.

A2I am senior member on ISG under the same handle with over 200 posts and over 100 posts under another handle that I no longer use. I've lived in two countries in East Africa and in the Dominican Republic which represent the majority of my posts there. I've also spent time in Asia, Europe, Mexico and the Middle east and I've got the passport to prove it.

ISG is full of us 'trolls' who comment about what others pay as overpaying affects the market of which we are all shoppers, without insults from the moderator.

This only further confirms that the 'banker' (aka Jackson no longer runs these sites).

You're now a Senior Moderated member on the ISG. I looked up your last 50 posts over there and you were mostly commenting on the political thread, trolling other members about how they were mongering wrong or making disparaging racist remarks about Indians. What you weren't doing was making posts of substance about commercial sex.

You're not only wrong about the ISG being full of trolls like you (only about 3% are trolls like you) Jackson is still very much involved in the running of all of his sites, I had lunch with him this week and called him up to ask him specifically what I should do with you since you're the first troll from the ISG that ever revealed himself on the USASG.

Anyway, welcome to the USASG, you will never be off of moderation here and I'm not worried about you abandoning this account and starting another as you said you did before, guys like you always self reveal because you're not here for the pussy, you're here to throw darts at people hoping they notice you.

A2

[Ozymandias]

http://www.businessinsider.com/executive-investigated-for-spending-company-credit-card-2017-8

This old simp is completely pathetic!! He is the EPITOME of a beta male simp. , Despite making alpha male money.

Some of these highly educated billionaires are so stupid and careless with their money. They make capitalism look like a joke; those idiots have too much money.

Here some cliff notes below for the lazy:

A former executive is suspected of letting an escort he met online spend $5. 8 million on the company's credit card on plastic surgery and a mansion.

That guy is an executive, yet making simpleton decisions.

Wake up idiots!! There are many people JUST LIKE HIM who are reading this right now. Develop a pair of balls for one time in your life "men. ".

Pathetic simp deserves death, I wonder what Oz has to say about this. How will he explain this away??The big problem here is that he's not being careless with *his* money (I don't judge someone for how they spend their own personal money); he's careless with the money of the private equity group which purchased Nemera in 2014.

While I think "deserves death" is a bit extreme, if I had someone steal $5. 8 million from me, cash intended to float operations of a company I was grooming for sale or public offering (which is mostly what private equity folks do), I would certainly have the person arrested for fraud and sue for civil damages.

Now, I forgot what "simp" actually means, but based on what the Urban Dictionary tells me, yes, this man is a textbook simp; I wouldn't care, but he simped out his backers by proxy, and that's a no no.

O.

(Some years ago, I and some equity partners were considering backing a defense startup. Guy invited us to meet him at his new house, which was still being constructed; it was a pretty good sized mansion. We bailed on the deal. If I'm backing a startup, I'm looking for four warning signs: big house, fancy car, expensive clothes / shoes / watch, and cheap hoe. None of those are good indicators of financial restraint.).

[The Parrot]

The big problem here is that he's not being careless with *his* money (I don't judge someone for how they spend their own personal money); he's careless with the money of the private equity group which purchased Nemera in 2014.

While I think "deserves death" is a bit extreme, if I had someone steal $5. 8 million from me, cash intended to float operations of a company I was grooming for sale or public offering (which is mostly what private equity folks do), I would certainly have the person arrested for fraud and sue for civil damages.

Now, I forgot what "simp" actually means, but based on what the Urban Dictionary tells me, yes, this man is a textbook simp; I wouldn't care, but he simped out his backers by proxy, and that's a no no.

O.

(Some years ago, I and some equity partners were considering backing a defense startup. Guy invited us to meet him at his new house, which was still being constructed; it was a pretty good sized mansion. We bailed on the deal. If I'm backing a startup, I'm looking for four warning signs: big house, fancy car, expensive clothes / shoes / watch, and cheap hoe. None of those are good indicators of financial restraint.).At least you admit he is a simp. Of course they deserve death, it's the only way they'll change. Rob Kardashian is an idiot as well.

[MrHobbyist]

I am senior member on ISG under the same handle with over 200 posts and over 100 posts under another handle that I no longer use. I've lived in two countries in East Africa and in the Dominican Republic which represent the majority of my posts there. I've also spent time in Asia, Europe, Mexico and the Middle east and I've got the passport to prove it.

ISG is full of us 'trolls' who comment about what others pay as overpaying affects the market of which we are all shoppers, without insults from the moderator.

This only further confirms that the 'banker' (aka Jackson no longer runs these sites).

You're now a Senior Moderated member on the ISG. I looked up your last 50 posts over there and you were mostly commenting on the political thread, trolling other members about how they were mongering wrong or making disparaging racist remarks about Indians. What you weren't doing was making posts of substance about commercial sex.

You're not only wrong about the ISG being full of trolls like you (only about 3% are trolls like you) Jackson is still very much involved in the running of all of his sites, I had lunch with him this week and called him up to ask him specifically what I should do with you since you're the first troll from the ISG that ever revealed himself on the USASG.

Anyway, welcome to the USASG, you will never be off of moderation here and I'm not worried about you abandoning this account and starting another as you said you did before, guys like you always self reveal because you're not here for the pussy, you're here to throw darts at people hoping they notice you.

A2What is ISG?

[Ozymandias]

What is ISG?International Sex Guide, the sister forum of USA Sex Guide.

O.

[Admin2]

ISG= International Sex Guide.

USAsexguide= USA Sex Guide.

I stumbled upon that site one day through idleness. Surfing around on the net. I never knew such a site existed. It's for individuals buying nookie outside of the USA, thus the name ISG.

This is ridiculous. Your making all that money and your paddling around on backpage looking for cheap $50 qv chic's. What a dumbass! You could have gotten you some nice young college girls as a sugar daddy with that kind of money.ISG International Sex Guide and USASG USA Sex Guide and don't forget USAAC USA Adult Classifieds. (I know, it's pretty forgettable at this time but I swear we are working on it).

[MajMilkDuds]

Why do Escorts like Charity bangs or Ember Simmers, and other amazing traveling escorts rarely or never come to Atlanta. I have seen them here but they never seem to come back again after? What is wrong with this city??

[Ozymandias]

Why do Escorts like Charity bangs or Ember Simmers, and other amazing traveling escorts rarely or never come to Atlanta. I have seen them here but they never seem to come back again after? What is wrong with this city??Atlanta has a national reputation for cheap mangers (well deserved, probably).

It's definitely puts a damper on getting the cream of the traveling set (porn stars, etc).

O.

[Niteluvr]

At least you admit he is a simp. Of course they deserve death, it's the only way they'll change. Rob Kardashian is an idiot as well.Only Rob Kardashian? I would include his entire family.

[Ozymandias]

True, Atlanta has an over supply of p4 p ladies which I'm sure affects prices.I don't even think it's that: there's just a cheapness about Atlanta.

Example: a lot of high-end retailers pass over Atlanta, even heading to smaller cities over Atlanta; Hermes, for example, is on its third try in Atlanta (that I can remember). The Buckhead Village has certainly helped. Relatively few (or really no) world-class restaurants, either. Just kind of a bunch of cheap mofos living here!

Why? I have my theories, but nothing conclusive.

O.

[Sgt Soros]

I don't even think it's that: there's just a cheapness about Atlanta.

Example: a lot of high-end retailers pass over Atlanta, even heading to smaller cities over Atlanta; Hermes, for example, is on its third try in Atlanta (that I can remember). The Buckhead Village has certainly helped. Relatively few (or really no) world-class restaurants, either. Just kind of a bunch of cheap mofos living here!

Why? I have my theories, but nothing conclusive.

O.Or could it be Atlanta mongers are a more discerning group when it comes to knowing the true value of rental pussy.

[Niteluvr]

Or could it be Atlanta mongers are a more discerning group when it comes to knowing the true value of rental pussy.I have to agree with Oz. From everything I've heard from massage parlor ladies who work all over the US, Atlanta is a boring place. The Asian communities in NY, LA, Chicago and such have more to offer than Atlanta in terms of cultural life. For other ethnicities, same goes. Probably lots more excitement in the larger US cities, if nightlife is your thing.

[The Parrot]

Why do Escorts like Charity bangs or Ember Simmers, and other amazing traveling escorts rarely or never come to Atlanta. I have seen them here but they never seem to come back again after? What is wrong with this city??I'd like to think the men here don't put poontang on such a high pedestal like other areas.

Some of the girls charging 120+ are civilian types I smash for free. I don't see the value in many high priced providers, not worth the coin.

The value of a dollar still holds true. 200 dollars can do a lot, even feed a man for a week or more. Yet clowns think 30 minutes of "fun" with some used up provider is worth the same 200.

I love the down to earthness about Atlanta. Those providers should stick to the uppity / stuck up areas of Cali / Hollywood or Miami.

I hate superficial people, especially self righteous tricks who think they are above the next trick because he wastes more money tricking.

[Han57]

Why do Escorts like Charity bangs or Ember Simmers, and other amazing traveling escorts rarely or never come to Atlanta. I have seen them here but they never seem to come back again after? What is wrong with this city??Economics. Supply & Demand. While there is a fair amount of demand for quality providers here in the ATL. , the supply is more than adequate.

[ChillGuy91]

I took a vacation out to Houston about a month ago and it was terrible! Almost every single provider I tried to see refused to see me unless I sent either a picture of myself, my real email address linked to all my social media, or a personal reference from MY JOB! One provider even asked for a picture of my drivers license! At first I thought I was just having a bad run as I was using another review site. USASG isn't real big out there. So I got on BP and they were the same! Are they crazy?! Then I came to the conclusion that was the norm out there. All the mongers out there have to be sending out all this personal info to these girls on the regular like its normal. That's got to be the dumbest thing you can do! You don't know who the fuck is even on the other side yet and you're sending your whole life to them! What if it's a sting? How about some guys setting you up to rob you? Could you imagine walking into work and getting told that you're fired because some provider didn't get her way and found your job and said some shit? Or worse yet getting out of your car at some hotel thinking you're about to relieve some stress and before you even get to the door LEO has you surrounded? I got lucky to find one chick who wasn't batshit crazy and it was a great session but when we finished she said she usually ask for pics too! Needless to say I won't be hobbying out that way anymore.

[BuckNaked53]

Why "protect", or come from a place of superiority, regarding a providers contact info? I honestly don't understand, is it about power?

Who's team are we on again? I'm not looking to start an argument, I genuinely do not understand why board members do this.It's simple. Rookies are an unknown factor. They could be law enforcement and the next time we see that provider we go to the slammer. Rookies tend to tell the girls about this site and why they should be getting what the last guy here bragged about getting or paying for, asking for a discounted price base on what another member said, forgetting that YMMV slogan goes for each one of us and depends on the girl, they then go on to be assholes with the way they treat the girls, either: forcing them to do stuff CIM CIP with out permission etc. Then bragging on here how they are going to impregnate every dumb-ass girl they can, ripping the girls off after service, posting pictures of them without their permision etc. When the girls learn that it was someone from USASG they assume we are all going to be like that. Again these are girls that are giving us what we want. Why would we want to trust others we don't know and can't vouch for to refer these girls to. (again I / we are aware there are girls out there that do crappy jobs, rip off guys, smell like fish or cigarettes, Smoke / shoot up, can't answer the phone, break appointments, etc.) if we want to keep a good thing going, we don't want rookies and unknown assholes like the types listed above to ruin it. Besides, these reviews prevent us from wasting time and $ on the girls just listed.

There are usually only a few reasons most guys share their UTR leads; they have had their fun with them and are now done with them. The girl says she is struggling and could use some extra work, or she is a freak and want to do a GB or something more exciting / or more profitable.

Personally I don't like when the new guys place 15 posts of 'Ditto' type responses or 'has anyone seen this girl?' vs an actual review. There are guys on here that have made thousands of posts and we know by their reviews they are legitimate and those are the profiles we have come to trust to help the rest of us be as safe as this hobby can be. I personally don't take a member's posts seriously until they hit 30-60 posts. If someone under that amount hits me up for info I look at their last few posts. If those are bullshit posts and are not actual reviews I definitely delete their requests.

I also believe that there should be a standard for reviews. I think we should have a designated page for the newbies to learn all the slang and acronyms from. If not they should search google or urban dictionary / slang for the answers.

When posting, each guy should give a link of CL, BP or other sites ads and / or pictures if any were available, services partaken, amount $ paid and amount $ (if known) for other services or length of time, give ratings for: face, body, service, attitude, smell etc.

There are too many guys who look like they are trying to write an article for playboy about their exciting exploits (which I don't mind as long as they give the $/ Time / service / ratings with too), who write next to nothing of the other details, instead giving everything of the review piecemeal and it takes 4 posts and 5 days to get the whole story on a girl (in-which time the URL is no longer active). I say we hold the newer guys to a higher standard. I didn't start hitting they others up for their info until I was a senior member. I went out blindly on my own using CL ads and BP posts. I had a Tagged Profile, a Sugar-daddy ad on CL and BP for a year or two and had providers supplying their friends to give me plenty to write in / post about. You can learn a ton of knowledge to do it on your own here. The senior member are glad to help, but most just need to stop being a pussy about things and TOFTT. Action = experience. Experience = Confidence. Confidence = Getting you dick wet.

Anyhow, that's my rant to the -regarding a providers contact info? So go fuck yourselves if you don't like why we restrict info. (or pick up the phone and find someone to fuck on your own) hahahahaha.

Bucknaked.

[Eslide3]

Anyhow, that's my rant to the -regarding a providers contact info? So go fuck yourselves if you don't like why we restrict info. (or pick up the phone and find someone to fuck on your own) hahahahaha.

Bucknaked.I take everything I read here w a grain of salt, have never needed the help to find a decent piece of ass from any of the usual spots. What I failed to mention in my original post was after he clamored on about only "trusted members" the guy went ahead and posted her number anyway. I just didn't make any sense.

[Johnny Mapalo]

Another rant is now in session.

First off, I'd like to start off with delusionalism. Dude, most of these chic's on backpage, craigslist and the likes are delusional as fuck. Delusional about their worth, delusional about their services, just plain ole fucking delusional about everything in general. If these chics had it their way, qv rates would be $100 or better and that's just for basic service with covered everything. All these broads are overpriced like a mother! If rates were based on service alone, none of these broads would be charging anymore than 30 bucks. Dude, the price these chics charge you are based on what they feel they're worth.

Your basically paying for looks, a chic's super inflated ego, and maybe location. That's it! They're idea of good service is far different than you and my idea of good service. You got a fucking black BBW on Virginia Avenue spamming the hell out of backpage and craigslist with her ads and quoting $100 qv. $100 qv for a fucking BBW! Really? What's even worse, someone actually went to see her. He wrote in his review that it was basic covered service and he probably wouldn't repeat. LOL. Probably won't repeat!

You probably shouldn't have went there in the first place, you dumb ass! $100 qv for a BBW my pink ass. There's also another chick who charges $600/ hour everything covered and she has 4 fucking reviews! Are you fucking kidding me? 600 bucks and everything covered. Really? And those guys actually said they would repeat. LOL. Alot of these broads place ads on the internet thinking that they can get over on people. You even got $10 street walkers placing ads on backpage and quoting $80 qv. Ridiculous.

And you have some of these gullible ass dudes biting on it. A few weeks back, someone on here inquired about a chic on Candler Road quoting him $120 for 30 minutes. LOL. I read that and just said to myself, "Come on, dude". Why would you even give that a 2nd thought? Who the hell you know is selling vagina on Candler Road for anything more than $50 (shit 40 bucks, really), when you know the place is full of $15 street walker vagina. Sometimes you can just look at the rate and location and immediately know that your highly likely to get ripped off.

What you need to do is look for a humbling rate. What I mean by that is to look for a rate that is equivalent to a chic's looks and location. If a chic's in a hood location, like say Candler Road, she shouldn't be quoting you anything more than 50 bucks, especially if she's telling you everything is covered. If a chic is in say like Buckhead or any other affluent area and she's quoting you $80 or less for a qv, that's a humbling rate. That's a chic who's actually trying to do something and not lick you over the head with those ridiculous rates. If a chic offers no quick visits at all, I strongly suggest bypassing her ad and moving on to the next one. There's a reason why she offers no qv, and its not because that's not enough time to showcase her talents.

I recently had a chic quote me $160 and didn't even give me a time limit. When I asked her for her address, she gave me the address to the Red Carpet Inn on Old National. Pfft. LOL. I couldn't stop laughing so hard. And this was a chic who normally does "outcalls only to upscale areas only". LOL. These chics will run that game on you suckas all day. That's a big reason why I stopped doing outcalls. Most of those outcall only chics are some of the brokest bums you'll ever meet. Many of them don't even have a roof over their heads.

I started asking those outcalls only chics where they stayed and was surprised when some told me they were staying in the homeless shelter downtown, rooming house on Moreland Avenue, with my Auntie in the Bluffs, staying in my car until this room opens up. Dude, you'll get the shock of your life when you start asking these outcalls only chics, "where do you stay". They're only doing outcalls because they can't afford a room to host. Most of those outcalls only chics got male drivers or pimps. I couldn't believe when I read on here a few weeks back how some guy on here called some outcalls only BP unreviewed chic to his crib.

He said the chic was taking a shower in his bathroom while her pimp was rummaging through his refrigerator. Smdh. You even have some dudes picking these backpage chic's up and taking them back to their homes to spend the night. Really? Some people have nothing to lose. If your hell bent on doing outcalls only with backpage chic's, I strongly suggest reviewed chics only for safety reasons and piece of mind. You'll never know what type of trash is coming into your home from backpage. Plus, the majority of outcalls only BP chics have severe hygiene issues. Those broads asses stank like a mother. Hygiene ain't the top priority on their list; getting money is.

The majority of these backpage chic's are broke bottom dwelling bums trying to get over on stupid horny tricks. They see backpage as the quickest way to make some fast money. Many of them are actually lesbians that hate men. They see you and I as stupid horny tricks that are too lame to get it for free, that's why your paying for it. They don't see you as spending your hard-earned money on them. Rather they see you as having nothing else to do with your money and as one chic told me over the phone, "that money finnin to be mines anyway (you might as well bring some condoms and buy me a ciggarello)".

And the funny thing is, you tell those chics your taking the condoms and ciggarello out of their donation and they start copping attitude and hanging up the phone in your ears. LOL. That goes back to what I said earlier, these chicks don't see you and I as spending our hard-earned money. They see us as lame horny tricks with a pocket full of money and absolutely nothing important to do with it. They don't see you as wanting to get good value for your hard-earned bread. They see you as tricking off with money you have nothing else good to do with.

Also, last time I checked, this is the year 2017. The world wide web has been up for what, 20 plus years now. Tell me why the fuck some of you dudes still don't know how to copy and paste a falking link correctly. I'm sick and tired of the same set of dudes everytime, feebly attempting to copy and paste a simple backpage link. Come on guys, highlight the whole link, right click to copy it and then paste it in your reply. Preview the freaking link, click it and make sure it leads to the site in question before finalizing and uploading your reports.

Some of you guys seem to have a very hard time with how the copy and paste function works. You ask about a chic and can't even post the freaking link correctly. And why are some of you still posting backpage and craigslist links. Craigslist links have a shelf life of what, 3 hours? Backpage links have a shelf life of like what, 3 days? By the time you post your links, the links are already flagged or deleted. Nobody knows who the fuck your talking about. Find some other escort sites that keep their links up longer instead of using cheap backpage and craigslist links.

One last thing before I end, this is the best review site I've seen so far in terms and accuracy and truthfulness. Many other review sites you go on are full of virgin guys who are new to this thing writing exxaggerated reviews, old men who are just happy to get a piece of ass writing exaggerated nonsense, people writing fake reviews for free membership days, pimps and hoes writing their own bogus reviews, etc. No one can come on this site and write a bogus review and not get called out on it.

No one is gullible enough (well, except for a few) to believe any old nonsense written by some unknown newbie. The worst site I've seen so far is that escortbabylon review site. That site is full of bogus reviews its not even funny. The dudes on there are so backwards and childish is ridiculous. They're always spreading rumours about a chics got a pimp, a chic just gave them a disease or they just got bailed out of jail after going to see some chic. Those people on that review site are so grimey and dirty it's not even funny. And they're always looking for these cheap $40 broads on Candler Road, Union City- Shannon Parkway, Moreland Avenue and the likes.

If the girl is running a 40 special or less, best believe everyone on that site has "hit" already. Those dudes always banging gully trash. They even got a 60 something year old obese white lady with no teeth in her mouth living in a trailer park and she's got over 10 reviews on that review site. WTF! I couldn't believe that someone was actually paying for that trailer park trash. It's not even 1 person, its like 10 of them. That shit is disgusting! Those dudes over there will bang anything. Even chics who got shitty reviews over on this board, got like 40 plus positiive reviews on that review board. Its ridiculous.

[The Parrot]

Another rant is now in session.

First off, I'd like to start off with delusionalism. Dude, most of these chic's on backpage, craigslist and the likes are delusional as fuck. Delusional about their worth, delusional about their services, just plain ole fucking delusional about everything in general. If these chics had it their way, qv rates would be $100 or better and that's just for basic service with covered everything. All these broads are overpriced like a mother! If rates were based on service alone, none of these broads would be charging anymore than 30 bucks. Dude, the price these chics charge you are based on what they feel they're worth.

Your basically paying for looks, a chic's super inflated ego, and maybe location. That's it! They're idea of good service is far different than you and my idea of good service. You got a fucking black BBW on Virginia Avenue spamming the hell out of backpage and craigslist with her ads and quoting $100 qv. $100 qv for a fucking BBW! Really? What's even worse, someone actually went to see her. He wrote in his review that it was basic covered service and he probably wouldn't repeat. LOL. Probably won't repeat!

You probably shouldn't have went there in the first place, you dumb ass! $100 qv for a BBW my pink ass. There's also another chick who charges $600/ hour everything covered and she has 4 fucking reviews! Are you fucking kidding me? 600 bucks and everything covered. Really? And those guys actually said they would repeat. LOL. Alot of these broads place ads on the internet thinking that they can get over on people. You even got $10 street walkers placing ads on backpage and quoting $80 qv. Ridiculous.

And you have some of these gullible ass dudes biting on it. A few weeks back, someone on here inquired about a chic on Candler Road quoting him $120 for 30 minutes. LOL. I read that and just said to myself, "Come on, dude". Why would you even give that a 2nd thought? Who the hell you know is selling vagina on Candler Road for anything more than $50 (shit 40 bucks, really), when you know the place is full of $15 street walker vagina. Sometimes you can just look at the rate and location and immediately know that your highly likely to get ripped off.

What you need to do is look for a humbling rate. What I mean by that is to look for a rate that is equivalent to a chic's looks and location. If a chic's in a hood location, like say Candler Road, she shouldn't be quoting you anything more than 50 bucks, especially if she's telling you everything is covered. If a chic is in say like Buckhead or any other affluent area and she's quoting you $80 or less for a qv, that's a humbling rate. That's a chic who's actually trying to do something and not lick you over the head with those ridiculous rates. If a chic offers no quick visits at all, I strongly suggest bypassing her ad and moving on to the next one. There's a reason why she offers no qv, and its not because that's not enough time to showcase her talents.

I recently had a chic quote me $160 and didn't even give me a time limit. When I asked her for her address, she gave me the address to the Red Carpet Inn on Old National. Pfft. LOL. I couldn't stop laughing so hard. And this was a chic who normally does "outcalls only to upscale areas only". LOL. These chics will run that game on you suckas all day. That's a big reason why I stopped doing outcalls. Most of those outcall only chics are some of the brokest bums you'll ever meet. Many of them don't even have a roof over their heads.

I started asking those outcalls only chics where they stayed and was surprised when some told me they were staying in the homeless shelter downtown, rooming house on Moreland Avenue, with my Auntie in the Bluffs, staying in my car until this room opens up. Dude, you'll get the shock of your life when you start asking these outcalls only chics, "where do you stay". They're only doing outcalls because they can't afford a room to host. Most of those outcalls only chics got male drivers or pimps. I couldn't believe when I read on here a few weeks back how some guy on here called some outcalls only BP unreviewed chic to his crib.

He said the chic was taking a shower in his bathroom while her pimp was rummaging through his refrigerator. Smdh. You even have some dudes picking these backpage chic's up and taking them back to their homes to spend the night. Really? Some people have nothing to lose. If your hell bent on doing outcalls only with backpage chic's, I strongly suggest reviewed chics only for safety reasons and piece of mind. You'll never know what type of trash is coming into your home from backpage. Plus, the majority of outcalls only BP chics have severe hygiene issues. Those broads asses stank like a mother. Hygiene ain't the top priority on their list; getting money is.

The majority of these backpage chic's are broke bottom dwelling bums trying to get over on stupid horny tricks. They see backpage as the quickest way to make some fast money. Many of them are actually lesbians that hate men. They see you and I as stupid horny tricks that are too lame to get it for free, that's why your paying for it. They don't see you as spending your hard-earned money on them. Rather they see you as having nothing else to do with your money and as one chic told me over the phone, "that money finnin to be mines anyway (you might as well bring some condoms and buy me a ciggarello)".

And the funny thing is, you tell those chics your taking the condoms and ciggarello out of their donation and they start copping attitude and hanging up the phone in your ears. LOL. That goes back to what I said earlier, these chicks don't see you and I as spending our hard-earned money. They see us as lame horny tricks with a pocket full of money and absolutely nothing important to do with it. They don't see you as wanting to get good value for your hard-earned bread. They see you as tricking off with money you have nothing else good to do with.

Also, last time I checked, this is the year 2017. The world wide web has been up for what, 20 plus years now. Tell me why the fuck some of you dudes still don't know how to copy and paste a falking link correctly. I'm sick and tired of the same set of dudes everytime, feebly attempting to copy and paste a simple backpage link. Come on guys, highlight the whole link, right click to copy it and then paste it in your reply. Preview the freaking link, click it and make sure it leads to the site in question before finalizing and uploading your reports.

Some of you guys seem to have a very hard time with how the copy and paste function works. You ask about a chic and can't even post the freaking link correctly. And why are some of you still posting backpage and craigslist links. Craigslist links have a shelf life of what, 3 hours? Backpage links have a shelf life of like what, 3 days? By the time you post your links, the links are already flagged or deleted. Nobody knows who the fuck your talking about. Find some other escort sites that keep their links up longer instead of using cheap backpage and craigslist links.

One last thing before I end, this is the best review site I've seen so far in terms and accuracy and truthfulness. Many other review sites you go on are full of virgin guys who are new to this thing writing exxaggerated reviews, old men who are just happy to get a piece of ass writing exaggerated nonsense, people writing fake reviews for free membership days, pimps and hoes writing their own bogus reviews, etc. No one can come on this site and write a bogus review and not get called out on it.

No one is gullible enough (well, except for a few) to believe any old nonsense written by some unknown newbie. The worst site I've seen so far is that escortbabylon review site. That site is full of bogus reviews its not even funny. The dudes on there are so backwards and childish is ridiculous. They're always spreading rumours about a chics got a pimp, a chic just gave them a disease or they just got bailed out of jail after going to see some chic. Those people on that review site are so grimey and dirty it's not even funny. And they're always looking for these cheap $40 broads on Candler Road, Union City- Shannon Parkway, Moreland Avenue and the likes.

If the girl is running a 40 special or less, best believe everyone on that site has "hit" already. Those dudes always banging gully trash. They even got a 60 something year old obese white lady with no teeth in her mouth living in a trailer park and she's got over 10 reviews on that review site. WTF! I couldn't believe that someone was actually paying for that trailer park trash. It's not even 1 person, its like 10 of them. That shit is disgusting! Those dudes over there will bang anything. Even chics who got shitty reviews over on this board, got like 40 plus positiive reviews on that review board. Its ridiculous.You can't stop the simps from paying unfortunately. Simp hav a purpose though, they are the bread and butter for those broads.

[JusTheTip]

Slow clap for this man.


Another rant is now in session.

First off, I'd like to start off with delusionalism. Dude, most of these chic's on backpage, craigslist and the likes are delusional as fuck. Delusional about their worth, delusional about their services, just plain ole fucking delusional about everything in general. If these chics had it their way, qv rates would be $100 or better and that's just for basic service with covered everything. All these broads are overpriced like a mother! If rates were based on service alone, none of these broads would be charging anymore than 30 bucks. Dude, the price these chics charge you are based on what they feel they're worth.

Your basically paying for looks, a chic's super inflated ego, and maybe location. That's it! They're idea of good service is far different than you and my idea of good service. You got a fucking black BBW on Virginia Avenue spamming the hell out of backpage and craigslist with her ads and quoting $100 qv. $100 qv for a fucking BBW! Really? What's even worse, someone actually went to see her. He wrote in his review that it was basic covered service and he probably wouldn't repeat. LOL. Probably won't repeat!

You probably shouldn't have went there in the first place, you dumb ass! $100 qv for a BBW my pink ass. There's also another chick who charges $600/ hour everything covered and she has 4 fucking reviews! Are you fucking kidding me? 600 bucks and everything covered. Really? And those guys actually said they would repeat. LOL. Alot of these broads place ads on the internet thinking that they can get over on people. You even got $10 street walkers placing ads on backpage and quoting $80 qv. Ridiculous.

And you have some of these gullible ass dudes biting on it. A few weeks back, someone on here inquired about a chic on Candler Road quoting him $120 for 30 minutes. LOL. I read that and just said to myself, "Come on, dude". Why would you even give that a 2nd thought? Who the hell you know is selling vagina on Candler Road for anything more than $50 (shit 40 bucks, really), when you know the place is full of $15 street walker vagina. Sometimes you can just look at the rate and location and immediately know that your highly likely to get ripped off.

What you need to do is look for a humbling rate. What I mean by that is to look for a rate that is equivalent to a chic's looks and location. If a chic's in a hood location, like say Candler Road, she shouldn't be quoting you anything more than 50 bucks, especially if she's telling you everything is covered. If a chic is in say like Buckhead or any other affluent area and she's quoting you $80 or less for a qv, that's a humbling rate. That's a chic who's actually trying to do something and not lick you over the head with those ridiculous rates. If a chic offers no quick visits at all, I strongly suggest bypassing her ad and moving on to the next one. There's a reason why she offers no qv, and its not because that's not enough time to showcase her talents.

I recently had a chic quote me $160 and didn't even give me a time limit. When I asked her for her address, she gave me the address to the Red Carpet Inn on Old National. Pfft. LOL. I couldn't stop laughing so hard. And this was a chic who normally does "outcalls only to upscale areas only". LOL. These chics will run that game on you suckas all day. That's a big reason why I stopped doing outcalls. Most of those outcall only chics are some of the brokest bums you'll ever meet. Many of them don't even have a roof over their heads.

I started asking those outcalls only chics where they stayed and was surprised when some told me they were staying in the homeless shelter downtown, rooming house on Moreland Avenue, with my Auntie in the Bluffs, staying in my car until this room opens up. Dude, you'll get the shock of your life when you start asking these outcalls only chics, "where do you stay". They're only doing outcalls because they can't afford a room to host. Most of those outcalls only chics got male drivers or pimps. I couldn't believe when I read on here a few weeks back how some guy on here called some outcalls only BP unreviewed chic to his crib.

He said the chic was taking a shower in his bathroom while her pimp was rummaging through his refrigerator. Smdh. You even have some dudes picking these backpage chic's up and taking them back to their homes to spend the night. Really? Some people have nothing to lose. If your hell bent on doing outcalls only with backpage chic's, I strongly suggest reviewed chics only for safety reasons and piece of mind. You'll never know what type of trash is coming into your home from backpage. Plus, the majority of outcalls only BP chics have severe hygiene issues. Those broads asses stank like a mother. Hygiene ain't the top priority on their list; getting money is.

The majority of these backpage chic's are broke bottom dwelling bums trying to get over on stupid horny tricks. They see backpage as the quickest way to make some fast money. Many of them are actually lesbians that hate men. They see you and I as stupid horny tricks that are too lame to get it for free, that's why your paying for it. They don't see you as spending your hard-earned money on them. Rather they see you as having nothing else to do with your money and as one chic told me over the phone, "that money finnin to be mines anyway (you might as well bring some condoms and buy me a ciggarello)".

And the funny thing is, you tell those chics your taking the condoms and ciggarello out of their donation and they start copping attitude and hanging up the phone in your ears. LOL. That goes back to what I said earlier, these chicks don't see you and I as spending our hard-earned money. They see us as lame horny tricks with a pocket full of money and absolutely nothing important to do with it. They don't see you as wanting to get good value for your hard-earned bread. They see you as tricking off with money you have nothing else good to do with.

Also, last time I checked, this is the year 2017. The world wide web has been up for what, 20 plus years now. Tell me why the fuck some of you dudes still don't know how to copy and paste a falking link correctly. I'm sick and tired of the same set of dudes everytime, feebly attempting to copy and paste a simple backpage link. Come on guys, highlight the whole link, right click to copy it and then paste it in your reply. Preview the freaking link, click it and make sure it leads to the site in question before finalizing and uploading your reports.

Some of you guys seem to have a very hard time with how the copy and paste function works. You ask about a chic and can't even post the freaking link correctly. And why are some of you still posting backpage and craigslist links. Craigslist links have a shelf life of what, 3 hours? Backpage links have a shelf life of like what, 3 days? By the time you post your links, the links are already flagged or deleted. Nobody knows who the fuck your talking about. Find some other escort sites that keep their links up longer instead of using cheap backpage and craigslist links.

One last thing before I end, this is the best review site I've seen so far in terms and accuracy and truthfulness. Many other review sites you go on are full of virgin guys who are new to this thing writing exxaggerated reviews, old men who are just happy to get a piece of ass writing exaggerated nonsense, people writing fake reviews for free membership days, pimps and hoes writing their own bogus reviews, etc. No one can come on this site and write a bogus review and not get called out on it.

No one is gullible enough (well, except for a few) to believe any old nonsense written by some unknown newbie. The worst site I've seen so far is that escortbabylon review site. That site is full of bogus reviews its not even funny. The dudes on there are so backwards and childish is ridiculous. They're always spreading rumours about a chics got a pimp, a chic just gave them a disease or they just got bailed out of jail after going to see some chic. Those people on that review site are so grimey and dirty it's not even funny. And they're always looking for these cheap $40 broads on Candler Road, Union City- Shannon Parkway, Moreland Avenue and the likes.

If the girl is running a 40 special or less, best believe everyone on that site has "hit" already. Those dudes always banging gully trash. They even got a 60 something year old obese white lady with no teeth in her mouth living in a trailer park and she's got over 10 reviews on that review site. WTF! I couldn't believe that someone was actually paying for that trailer park trash. It's not even 1 person, its like 10 of them. That shit is disgusting! Those dudes over there will bang anything. Even chics who got shitty reviews over on this board, got like 40 plus positiive reviews on that review board. Its ridiculous.

[ElPerron]

Hey guy! Anybody that can share the link of the international version of this forum, I'll be traveling soon! Thanks.

[Bunnery Sgt]

Hey guy! Anybody that can share the link of the international version of this forum, I'll be traveling soon! Thanks.http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/

[Johnny Mapalo]

Why? Whyyyyyyy! Why am I still reading about guys doing hour long sessions with unknown unreviewed chics on backpage. Newbie and veteran retards listen up. I just saw a newbie pay $180 for a hour of full service plus anal, got ripped off, then asked how much do guys normally pay for an hour session on backpage. A few guys chimmed in with their rate scale, but none of them gave him the correct answer. The correct answer is NONE, ZERO, ZILCH!! Got dammitt!! Stop paying for hour long session with unknown, unreviewed backpage chics.

How many guys need to get ripped off before you fools realize that paying for hour long sessions with unknown unreviewed backpage chics is nothing short of monetary suicide. These unknown unreviewed chics are nothing more than 15 minute qv chics. Why do you think all I do are quickies? I don't care what nonsense these broads tell you or what nonsense they agree to like anal, GFE, multi-pop and what ever lie they tell you to get your dumbass over there. Do not do hour long sessions with unknown unreviewed backpage chics! Get that through your thick naive hoar mongering skulls.

The most your going to get out of these backpage chics is 15-20 minutes before they start complaining and trying to rush you out of there. These chics do not have the stamina, patience, experience to entertain a guy for a full hour or anything close to that. If your still hell bent on doing hour long sessions, then do it with a "well-reviewed provider" or a "reputable agency chic". That's the only way your going to get your full hour with GFE, anal and everything else under the sun that your looking for. Your not going to fullfill your sexual fantasies on no cheap $50 backpage chic. That's all the majority of these backpage are worth.

Just look at Nikki's girl who advertised on backpage last year and before. They were all 200 hr, full hour, GFE, college aged girls. Some did BBFS as well, but it was hard as hell to get into their "inner circle". When you got in though, you were set for good. You can use that as you measuring stick of how much you should be paying for an hour session on backpage. If an agency can have college-aged girls doing GFE for a full hour for $200, there should be no way any chic on backpage should be quoting you anything over $200 unless its bare BBFS service. Any chic quoting you $300/ hour on backpage is laughable. She's only trying to bait suckas and some of you dudes actually fall for that nonsense, trying to negotiate them down to $250/ hour. LOL.

Secondly, people have been wondering lately about the social media links on backpage. News Flash. I thought it was pretty obvious what was going on. I figured it out in just a few minutes of trying to place an ad on backpage "women for men" section myself. It is now a requirement to add a social media site to the dating section of backpage. Why? Pretty simple. Since the backpage escort section was banned by the government, everyone and their mommas, including the poo-lease (police) knows that those "escorts" have now immigrated to the women for men section.

In order for backpage to keep the monkey or the man of their backs, they have to make the dating site look like a legit dating site, although we all and the poo-lease knows what it really is. Now backpage requires all "daters" who place an ad to add a social media site link to their ads to make it look like a legit dating site. LOL. It was pretty obvious. I figured that out without even researching it. That's one defense backpage can use if they're drawn into court again on accusations of running a sex site. They can say "We're not running a sex site, look they have social media links in their ads, they're just networking and dating". LOL.

That was pretty smart on the owners of backpage. They should been started doing that right before the death of the escort section. All the chics who place ads know about this and some still place their real facebook page etc, because these chics are using the site to gain exposure. Some chics want you to add them on snapchat, instagram and the likes. Some of them want the exposure, its not that they're too stupid to realize their real pics or facebook page is being linked. They know that!!

[Big Comanche]

Why? Whyyyyyyy! Why am I still reading about guys doing hour long sessions with unknown unreviewed chics on backpage. Newbie and veteran retards listen up. I just saw a newbie pay $180 for a hour of full service plus anal, got ripped off, then asked how much do guys normally pay for an hour session on backpage. A few guys chimmed in with their rate scale, but none of them gave him the correct answer. The correct answer is NONE, ZERO, ZILCH!! Got dammitt!! Stop paying for hour long session with unknown, unreviewed backpage chics.

How many guys need to get ripped off before you fools realize that paying for hour long sessions with unknown unreviewed backpage chics is nothing short of monetary suicide. These unknown unreviewed chics are nothing more than 15 minute qv chics. Why do you think all I do are quickies? I don't care what nonsense these broads tell you or what nonsense they agree to like anal, GFE, multi-pop and what ever lie they tell you to get your dumbass over there. Do not do hour long sessions with unknown unreviewed backpage chics! Get that through your thick naive hoar mongering skulls.

The most your going to get out of these backpage chics is 15-20 minutes before they start complaining and trying to rush you out of there. These chics do not have the stamina, patience, experience to entertain a guy for a full hour or anything close to that. If your still hell bent on doing hour long sessions, then do it with a "well-reviewed provider" or a "reputable agency chic". That's the only way your going to get your full hour with GFE, anal and everything else under the sun that your looking for. Your not going to fullfill your sexual fantasies on no cheap $50 backpage chic. That's all the majority of these backpage are worth.

Just look at Nikki's girl who advertised on backpage last year and before. They were all 200 hr, full hour, GFE, college aged girls. Some did BBFS as well, but it was hard as hell to get into their "inner circle". When you got in though, you were set for good. You can use that as you measuring stick of how much you should be paying for an hour session on backpage. If an agency can have college-aged girls doing GFE for a full hour for $200, there should be no way any chic on backpage should be quoting you anything over $200 unless its bare BBFS service. Any chic quoting you $300/ hour on backpage is laughable. She's only trying to bait suckas and some of you dudes actually fall for that nonsense, trying to negotiate them down to $250/ hour. LOL.

Secondly, people have been wondering lately about the social media links on backpage. News Flash. I thought it was pretty obvious what was going on. I figured it out in just a few minutes of trying to place an ad on backpage "women for men" section myself. It is now a requirement to add a social media site to the dating section of backpage. Why? Pretty simple. Since the backpage escort section was banned by the government, everyone and their mommas, including the poo-lease (police) knows that those "escorts" have now immigrated to the women for men section.

In order for backpage to keep the monkey or the man of their backs, they have to make the dating site look like a legit dating site, although we all and the poo-lease knows what it really is. Now backpage requires all "daters" who place an ad to add a social media site link to their ads to make it look like a legit dating site. LOL. It was pretty obvious. I figured that out without even researching it. That's one defense backpage can use if they're drawn into court again on accusations of running a sex site. They can say "We're not running a sex site, look they have social media links in their ads, they're just networking and dating". LOL.

That was pretty smart on the owners of backpage. They should been started doing that right before the death of the escort section. All the chics who place ads know about this and some still place their real facebook page etc, because these chics are using the site to gain exposure. Some chics want you to add them on snapchat, instagram and the likes. Some of them want the exposure, its not that they're too stupid to realize their real pics or facebook page is being linked. They know that!!I normally don't even last the whole QV! I got hh twice but was in and out in 10 minutes.

[SweetWater420]

This is the best section of the site! Hahaha! I'm learning and laughing so much at these rants!

[Allen981]

Nice to know there's one modest, unassuming genius who's figured this whole thing out. Hey bud, I've got nearly 40 years in this game, and you're whole take on things is a bit sad. You are completely limited by your bargain-basement standards, and no doubt have missed some outstanding experiences.

Nothing - business, government, success, mongering - is ever just about the money. And living any segment of your life to the lowest common denominator limits the enjoyment of life.

I don't ride a bus when I'm going to New York City, nor do I find the cheapest mouth available when I want to play. You call others 'retards,' but the you're the one who's lost out.

Bye.


Why? Whyyyyyyy! Why am I still reading about guys doing hour long sessions with unknown unreviewed chics on backpage. Newbie and veteran retards listen up. I just saw a newbie pay $180 for a hour of full service plus anal, got ripped off, then asked how much do guys normally pay for an hour session on backpage. A few guys chimmed in with their rate scale, but none of them gave him the correct answer. The correct answer is NONE, ZERO, ZILCH!! Got dammitt!! Stop paying for hour long session with unknown, unreviewed backpage chics.

How many guys need to get ripped off before you fools realize that paying for hour long sessions with unknown unreviewed backpage chics is nothing short of monetary suicide. These unknown unreviewed chics are nothing more than 15 minute qv chics. Why do you think all I do are quickies? I don't care what nonsense these broads tell you or what nonsense they agree to like anal, GFE, multi-pop and what ever lie they tell you to get your dumbass over there. Do not do hour long sessions with unknown unreviewed backpage chics! Get that through your thick naive hoar mongering skulls.

The most your going to get out of these backpage chics is 15-20 minutes before they start complaining and trying to rush you out of there. These chics do not have the stamina, patience, experience to entertain a guy for a full hour or anything close to that. If your still hell bent on doing hour long sessions, then do it with a "well-reviewed provider" or a "reputable agency chic". That's the only way your going to get your full hour with GFE, anal and everything else under the sun that your looking for. Your not going to fullfill your sexual fantasies on no cheap $50 backpage chic. That's all the majority of these backpage are worth.

Just look at Nikki's girl who advertised on backpage last year and before. They were all 200 hr, full hour, GFE, college aged girls. Some did BBFS as well, but it was hard as hell to get into their "inner circle". When you got in though, you were set for good. You can use that as you measuring stick of how much you should be paying for an hour session on backpage. If an agency can have college-aged girls doing GFE for a full hour for $200, there should be no way any chic on backpage should be quoting you anything over $200 unless its bare BBFS service. Any chic quoting you $300/ hour on backpage is laughable. She's only trying to bait suckas and some of you dudes actually fall for that nonsense, trying to negotiate them down to $250/ hour. LOL.

Secondly, people have been wondering lately about the social media links on backpage. News Flash. I thought it was pretty obvious what was going on. I figured it out in just a few minutes of trying to place an ad on backpage "women for men" section myself. It is now a requirement to add a social media site to the dating section of backpage. Why? Pretty simple. Since the backpage escort section was banned by the government, everyone and their mommas, including the poo-lease (police) knows that those "escorts" have now immigrated to the women for men section.

In order for backpage to keep the monkey or the man of their backs, they have to make the dating site look like a legit dating site, although we all and the poo-lease knows what it really is. Now backpage requires all "daters" who place an ad to add a social media site link to their ads to make it look like a legit dating site. LOL. It was pretty obvious. I figured that out without even researching it. That's one defense backpage can use if they're drawn into court again on accusations of running a sex site. They can say "We're not running a sex site, look they have social media links in their ads, they're just networking and dating". LOL.

That was pretty smart on the owners of backpage. They should been started doing that right before the death of the escort section. All the chics who place ads know about this and some still place their real facebook page etc, because these chics are using the site to gain exposure. Some chics want you to add them on snapchat, instagram and the likes. Some of them want the exposure, its not that they're too stupid to realize their real pics or facebook page is being linked. They know that!!

[Alin Srq]

Nice to know there's one modest, unassuming genius who's figured this whole thing out. Hey bud, I've got nearly 40 years in this game, and you're whole take on things is a bit sad. You are completely limited by your bargain-basement standards, and no doubt have missed some outstanding experiences.

Nothing - business, government, success, mongering - is ever just about the money. And living any segment of your life to the lowest common denominator limits the enjoyment of life.

I don't ride a bus when I'm going to New York City, nor do I find the cheapest mouth available when I want to play. You call others 'retards,' but the you're the one who's lost out.

Bye.Let's start by saying this report is about not wasting money on unverified BP girls. First, if you see a new girl on BP and. You think your getting a non pro your wrong most of these girls suck. About everything in life. Most likely no car, no home (that's why they are in a low priced hotel) phone almost out of minutes. Probably have multiple kids with different daddies. So if you want to go to just bust a nut that's fine. Just don't expect these girls to do more than just lay there and put in the minimum amount of effort for your maximum dollar. These girls want to see more money and less of you. They have their stories to watch on tv and more important things to do. It's too difficult to work on scheduling clients, getting a upgraded crib.

Paying my bills. As long as she has a little cash she's good.

Now the point Johnny is making is if you are going to spend top dollar go to eros, or a escort serviced and pay the $200. To a girl that has her shit together and Is worth the money. You still get either a nice home or 5 star hotel. Clean well maintained girl. Excellent. Service with your needs being first priority.

I just dialed up a BP girl who wanted $200. For a hh with all kind of rules no oral, no kissing, every thing. Covered. No cum on me. Blah blah blah. Fuck that for $200 I'll get the top of the line for that.

[BigMoney21]

Hey I'm really feeling this uncut, and uncensored Johnny 2. 0 personality but Johnny you got to realize some of these guys are stupid, desperate and ignorant to wise up to the game itself. And I would love to mention most of them are cowardly azz hell. And that's all I have to say on that topic.


Why? Whyyyyyyy! Why am I still reading about guys doing hour long sessions with unknown unreviewed chics on backpage. Newbie and veteran retards listen up. I just saw a newbie pay $180 for a hour of full service plus anal, got ripped off, then asked how much do guys normally pay for an hour session on backpage. A few guys chimmed in with their rate scale, but none of them gave him the correct answer. The correct answer is NONE, ZERO, ZILCH!! Got dammitt!! Stop paying for hour long session with unknown, unreviewed backpage chics.

How many guys need to get ripped off before you fools realize that paying for hour long sessions with unknown unreviewed backpage chics is nothing short of monetary suicide. These unknown unreviewed chics are nothing more than 15 minute qv chics. Why do you think all I do are quickies? I don't care what nonsense these broads tell you or what nonsense they agree to like anal, GFE, multi-pop and what ever lie they tell you to get your dumbass over there. Do not do hour long sessions with unknown unreviewed backpage chics! Get that through your thick naive hoar mongering skulls.

The most your going to get out of these backpage chics is 15-20 minutes before they start complaining and trying to rush you out of there. These chics do not have the stamina, patience, experience to entertain a guy for a full hour or anything close to that. If your still hell bent on doing hour long sessions, then do it with a "well-reviewed provider" or a "reputable agency chic". That's the only way your going to get your full hour with GFE, anal and everything else under the sun that your looking for. Your not going to fullfill your sexual fantasies on no cheap $50 backpage chic. That's all the majority of these backpage are worth.

Just look at Nikki's girl who advertised on backpage last year and before. They were all 200 hr, full hour, GFE, college aged girls. Some did BBFS as well, but it was hard as hell to get into their "inner circle". When you got in though, you were set for good. You can use that as you measuring stick of how much you should be paying for an hour session on backpage. If an agency can have college-aged girls doing GFE for a full hour for $200, there should be no way any chic on backpage should be quoting you anything over $200 unless its bare BBFS service. Any chic quoting you $300/ hour on backpage is laughable. She's only trying to bait suckas and some of you dudes actually fall for that nonsense, trying to negotiate them down to $250/ hour. LOL.

Secondly, people have been wondering lately about the social media links on backpage. News Flash. I thought it was pretty obvious what was going on. I figured it out in just a few minutes of trying to place an ad on backpage "women for men" section myself. It is now a requirement to add a social media site to the dating section of backpage. Why? Pretty simple. Since the backpage escort section was banned by the government, everyone and their mommas, including the poo-lease (police) knows that those "escorts" have now immigrated to the women for men section.

In order for backpage to keep the monkey or the man of their backs, they have to make the dating site look like a legit dating site, although we all and the poo-lease knows what it really is. Now backpage requires all "daters" who place an ad to add a social media site link to their ads to make it look like a legit dating site. LOL. It was pretty obvious. I figured that out without even researching it. That's one defense backpage can use if they're drawn into court again on accusations of running a sex site. They can say "We're not running a sex site, look they have social media links in their ads, they're just networking and dating". LOL.

That was pretty smart on the owners of backpage. They should been started doing that right before the death of the escort section. All the chics who place ads know about this and some still place their real facebook page etc, because these chics are using the site to gain exposure. Some chics want you to add them on snapchat, instagram and the likes. Some of them want the exposure, its not that they're too stupid to realize their real pics or facebook page is being linked. They know that!!

[Niteluvr]

Why? Whyyyyyyy! Why am I still reading about guys doing hour long sessions with unknown unreviewed chics on backpage. Newbie and veteran retards listen up. I just saw a newbie pay $180 for a hour of full service plus anal, got ripped off, then asked how much do guys normally pay for an hour session on backpage. A few guys chimmed in with their rate scale, but none of them gave him the correct answer. The correct answer is NONE, ZERO, ZILCH!! Got dammitt!! Stop paying for hour long session with unknown, unreviewed backpage chics.

How many guys need to get ripped off before you fools realize that paying for hour long sessions with unknown unreviewed backpage chics is nothing short of monetary suicide. These unknown unreviewed chics are nothing more than 15 minute qv chics. Why do you think all I do are quickies? I don't care what nonsense these broads tell you or what nonsense they agree to like anal, GFE, multi-pop and what ever lie they tell you to get your dumbass over there. Do not do hour long sessions with unknown unreviewed backpage chics! Get that through your thick naive hoar mongering skulls.

The most your going to get out of these backpage chics is 15-20 minutes before they start complaining and trying to rush you out of there. These chics do not have the stamina, patience, experience to entertain a guy for a full hour or anything close to that. If your still hell bent on doing hour long sessions, then do it with a "well-reviewed provider" or a "reputable agency chic". That's the only way your going to get your full hour with GFE, anal and everything else under the sun that your looking for. Your not going to fullfill your sexual fantasies on no cheap $50 backpage chic. That's all the majority of these backpage are worth.

Just look at Nikki's girl who advertised on backpage last year and before. They were all 200 hr, full hour, GFE, college aged girls. Some did BBFS as well, but it was hard as hell to get into their "inner circle". When you got in though, you were set for good. You can use that as you measuring stick of how much you should be paying for an hour session on backpage. If an agency can have college-aged girls doing GFE for a full hour for $200, there should be no way any chic on backpage should be quoting you anything over $200 unless its bare BBFS service. Any chic quoting you $300/ hour on backpage is laughable. She's only trying to bait suckas and some of you dudes actually fall for that nonsense, trying to negotiate them down to $250/ hour. LOL.

Secondly, people have been wondering lately about the social media links on backpage. News Flash. I thought it was pretty obvious what was going on. I figured it out in just a few minutes of trying to place an ad on backpage "women for men" section myself. It is now a requirement to add a social media site to the dating section of backpage. Why? Pretty simple. Since the backpage escort section was banned by the government, everyone and their mommas, including the poo-lease (police) knows that those "escorts" have now immigrated to the women for men section.

In order for backpage to keep the monkey or the man of their backs, they have to make the dating site look like a legit dating site, although we all and the poo-lease knows what it really is. Now backpage requires all "daters" who place an ad to add a social media site link to their ads to make it look like a legit dating site. LOL. It was pretty obvious. I figured that out without even researching it. That's one defense backpage can use if they're drawn into court again on accusations of running a sex site. They can say "We're not running a sex site, look they have social media links in their ads, they're just networking and dating". LOL.

That was pretty smart on the owners of backpage. They should been started doing that right before the death of the escort section. All the chics who place ads know about this and some still place their real facebook page etc, because these chics are using the site to gain exposure. Some chics want you to add them on snapchat, instagram and the likes. Some of them want the exposure, its not that they're too stupid to realize their real pics or facebook page is being linked. They know that!!Have to agree with what you said as well as with other sport fukkers who countered with opposing opinions; however, all of you have been right, just at different angles to the same issue. What I don't understand is why you continue to waste your time writing lengthy rants for negligible results, unless you like shitting yourself. Perhaps you're a front for Colin Kaepernick?

Hobby dumbasses will always be just that and you'll never change them.

[Barrytwins]

Gentlemen,

What is going on here? Who the hell is paying these ladies 100 for a CBJ outcall? I took the day off yesterday and normally during the day you can get a deal. Almost every girl in the Kennesaw area was asking 100 for covered lip service and not budging. Seriously. I had multiple tell me that is what they are getting now. Those are Buckhead rates and I don't go there because they are way overpriced. I even looked into Marietta and they are saying the same thing. Seriously, who is paying these amounts? Are these really the new rates? Have we let them take control?

[Johnny Mapalo]

Gentlemen,

What is going on here? Who the hell is paying these ladies 100 for a CBJ outcall? I took the day off yesterday and normally during the day you can get a deal. Almost every girl in the Kennesaw area was asking 100 for covered lip service and not budging. Seriously. I had multiple tell me that is what they are getting now. Those are Buckhead rates and I don't go there because they are way overpriced. I even looked into Marietta and they are saying the same thing. Seriously, who is paying these amounts? Are these really the new rates? Have we let them take control?It's getting more and more ridiculous by the day. Just look around on this review site and you'll see exactly where this shit is coming from. I just read some senior guy in the street walker thread paid a fucking street walker 60 bucks for a fucking covered blow job in the backseat of his fucking car. Are you fucking kidding me? Since when do street walkers get 60 bucks on the streets, and for a blow job at that, and a fucking covered one too!! Dude, if street walkers are now getting 60 bucks for a blow job, then I can see backpage outcall chics getting $100 for outcall covered blow jobs.

After all, they have a car and they're driving too you, so that's at least worth 40 bucks, right? Pfft. Ridiculous. You got another senior member inquiring about a chic on backpage who's offering BBFS for $300. Like really? Should there even be any consideration into this? Just look at the back page review threads and you got guys on there rationalizing spending money on chic's who are known to give years of bad service. Guys rationalizing keeping these bad service chic's in business and encouraging other guys to disregard bad reviews (take every review with a grain of salt) and give the bad reviewed chic's a try themselves. As long as these corny ass dudes keep paying these ridiculous ass rates and continue keeping these low-life shit providers on life support, then its only going to get worse and worse.

Didn't you see the reviews of a provider who charges $600 per hour, no kissing, everything covered? She has 4 reviews all of the reviewers said that they had a good time and will repeat. Really? Is all covered service now worth $600 an hour. From years on doing this and reading this review site, nothing surprises me anymore. These chics can charge what ever ridiculous rate they want, look as fat and ugly as they can be, rip as many guys off as possible, and dumb ass will still line up outside to see these chics.

There are no rates, no amount of bad reviews, half-assed service, rip offs, bad hygiene, that will keep these stupid horny tricks from being stupid horny tricks. Just pay your usual rates and stick to your rules. Don't let these corny ass overpaying simps dictate what you value a chic's service to be. You will never stop these cornballs from overpaying, rationalization why they should visit chics with miles upon miles of bad reviews, simping and getting ripped off by the same stupid scams year after year. Just pay your rate and keep it moving. You'll find someone humble enough to take your money off of you.

Lastly, if you don't know already, most "mongers" have very low standards. When they're in heat and need a release, no provider is off limits to them. If she is the only one to answer the phone and he's in his hotel room jacking off all day, it doesn't matter what ridiculous rate she throws at him, he's going to bite on it. These broads know that. That's why most outcall chics use fake pics and charge high rates, because they know there are horny drunk ass dudes sitting in their hotel rooms desperate to get laid. They will pay $100 for a CBJ just to let one go.

[Johnny Mapalo]

To be honest, I always take reviewers post with a grain of salt. The results have been 50/50. But then, that's the nature of the hobby. Regardless of what life choices led providers to 'do' what they 'do' does not make them immune to the crap anyone not in the 'life' would have to deal with. I would say it only encourages the negative behavior. That aside, I've seen a number of providers that a fellow monger that posts frequently here that reported receiving poor service. While that person reported a bad experience, I had a great time and have repeated. Not bashing the guy, but I think a lot of it has to do with the approach and how you treat them.
You sir have never seen Shelby based off your comment. At the time I didn't mind throwing her a 20 and saying I'll catch her next time on the days she smelled bad. Anyone that has seen Shelby knows that she WAS worth visiting, but I think the drugs have really taken over. I haven't seen her since the voicemail threatening to cut my dick off actually. If she stopped doing drugs and started hosting closer to the city I certainly would see her again though.

I pay 80-120 a QV depending on face AND location. And if that is truly 2-3 times the price you pay then I don't want to see any chick you're seeing in the first place. I generally don't see motel providers unless it is a provider I seen before in a upscale 4 star location multiple times. Unless at some point they were a pornstar like Shelby Paige (I actually paid 60) And there was some skinny white girl notorious on here known for setting guys up. A shit ton of reviews saying she ran off with the money or something. I can't think of her name off the top of my head but she was skinny, blonde her and a lot of acne. I never seen her before other than the pictures posted..
But back to women. I see reviews on here often about girls who are clock watchers and are labeled as not worth seeing. I visit them once and cum before time but I'm not rushed out. And sometimes I end up getting more after visiting them regularly. In fact there is one provider that just let me chill for a couple of course because business was slow and only charged me HHR rate. The provider is known for not giving people their time based off reviews. I think people should take these reviews with a grain of salt. A lot of these people complaint are fat, old, creepy or stink. Can you really blame these bitches for trying to wrap up the time? However, if a ***** is known to rob / scam I think you should keep it moving and not give that ***** time of day just to avoid drama.

Also sushi quality varies a lot on location. Some people are sushi snobs and would swear anything that isn't from Umi in Buckhead is absolutely horrible and you shouldn't waste money on it. I myself would say never buy grocery store sushi after trying it but I know a friend that stuffs his face with it all the time.I don't want to clog of the backpage reviews thread with this so I'll place it here. Dudes, are you fucking kidding me. Now, we have dudes that are of the belief that you should take "every" review you read with a grain of salt. Really? We're going to have to start fitting you dudes with a "Simp Hat" and start numbering yall. The mods need to start numbering yall "simps" and placing "Simp #" such and such under your names so we could know who reviews to really take with a grain of salt. I can't believe there are guys on here that believe you should not believe any reviews, whether bad service, bad hygiene or rip off and you should go see any chic regardless of how many bad reviews she has. Really?

Funny thing is, I look at you guys (the ones that believe that every review should be taken with a grain of salt) previous reviews and noticed a similar trend in your reviews. There is essentially no chic that you reviewed that you would not go back to see again. I read some of your reviews and you guys got bad rushed service from a chic and at the end of your review, you write "I'll probably still repeat with her, she probably just had an off day". WTF! Really? You dudes are the perfect definition of a "SIMP". Come on dudes, a chic rushes you, she doesn't take her shirt off, she limits the positions you can do, she has bad hygiene, she is on drugs, she threatens to cut your dick off and you still may repeat with her again at a later date.

Are you fucking kidding me? Simpery at its best. Dudes, come on, get a fucking backbone. These chics are not the only chics selling ass in Atlanta. You guys act like your living in Buttfuck, Mississippi or something. The excess supply off ass in Atlanta there should be no reason why you should contemplate visiting a chic who is known for giving bad service, especially if you personally was the victim of said bad service. How can you guys be so forgiven with your hard-earned money. Were you guys abused as kids? That's exactly why there are so many "bad providers" on BP right now, you simps are feeding these scum bags. Your making excuses for them, blaming "mongers" for approaching them wrong and being fat and nasty, when you should blame the provider that placed the ad on backpage and signed up for this job.

I can't believe you guys are now dissing reviewers / mongers and blaming it on them for getting bad service and not the other way around. This is ridiculous! I can't believe what I just read. Really??

[ST0808]

I don't want to clog of the backpage reviews thread with this so I'll place it here. Dudes, are you fucking kidding me. Now, we have dudes that are of the belief that you should take "every" review you read with a grain of salt. Really? We're going to have to start fitting you dudes with a "Simp Hat" and start numbering yall. The mods need to start numbering yall "simps" and placing "Simp #" such and such under your names so we could know who reviews to really take with a grain of salt. I can't believe there are guys on here that believe you should not believe any reviews, whether bad service, bad hygiene or rip off and you should go see any chic regardless of how many bad reviews she has. Really?

Funny thing is, I look at you guys (the ones that believe that every review should be taken with a grain of salt) previous reviews and noticed a similar trend in your reviews. There is essentially no chic that you reviewed that you would not go back to see again. I read some of your reviews and you guys got bad rushed service from a chic and at the end of your review, you write "I'll probably still repeat with her, she probably just had an off day". WTF! Really? You dudes are the perfect definition of a "SIMP". Come on dudes, a chic rushes you, she doesn't take her shirt off, she limits the positions you can do, she has bad hygiene, she is on drugs, she threatens to cut your dick off and you still may repeat with her again at a later date.

Are you fucking kidding me? Simpery at its best. Dudes, come on, get a fucking backbone. These chics are not the only chics selling ass in Atlanta. You guys act like your living in Buttfuck, Mississippi or something. The excess supply off ass in Atlanta there should be no reason why you should contemplate visiting a chic who is known for giving bad service, especially if you personally was the victim of said bad service. How can you guys be so forgiven with your hard-earned money. Were you guys abused as kids? That's exactly why there are so many "bad providers" on BP right now, you simps are feeding these scum bags. Your making excuses for them, blaming "mongers" for approaching them wrong and being fat and nasty, when you should blame the provider that placed the ad on backpage and signed up for this job.

I can't believe you guys are now dissing reviewers / mongers and blaming it on them for getting bad service and not the other way around. This is ridiculous! I can't believe what I just read. Really??You are right on brother, I would never see any girl who have a bed review here and I would be skeptical about the good review too because there are lot fake reviews here as well.

I live in Atlanta but travel for a job, it is very hard to find a good reliable provider anywhere in US. I have found only in Atlanta area and a few more in Knoxville since it is a small town. I monger alll over the place and it is very hard find good providers in US. I wish they would legalize prostitution in here in US and all the cash and dash would disapera.

[MrHobbyist]

I don't want to clog of the backpage reviews thread with this so I'll place it here. Dudes, are you fucking kidding me. Now, we have dudes that are of the belief that you should take "every" review you read with a grain of salt. Really? We're going to have to start fitting you dudes with a "Simp Hat" and start numbering yall. The mods need to start numbering yall "simps" and placing "Simp #" such and such under your names so we could know who reviews to really take with a grain of salt. I can't believe there are guys on here that believe you should not believe any reviews, whether bad service, bad hygiene or rip off and you should go see any chic regardless of how many bad reviews she has. Really?

Funny thing is, I look at you guys (the ones that believe that every review should be taken with a grain of salt) previous reviews and noticed a similar trend in your reviews. There is essentially no chic that you reviewed that you would not go back to see again. I read some of your reviews and you guys got bad rushed service from a chic and at the end of your review, you write "I'll probably still repeat with her, she probably just had an off day". WTF! Really? You dudes are the perfect definition of a "SIMP". Come on dudes, a chic rushes you, she doesn't take her shirt off, she limits the positions you can do, she has bad hygiene, she is on drugs, she threatens to cut your dick off and you still may repeat with her again at a later date.

Are you fucking kidding me? Simpery at its best. Dudes, come on, get a fucking backbone. These chics are not the only chics selling ass in Atlanta. You guys act like your living in Buttfuck, Mississippi or something. The excess supply off ass in Atlanta there should be no reason why you should contemplate visiting a chic who is known for giving bad service, especially if you personally was the victim of said bad service. How can you guys be so forgiven with your hard-earned money. Were you guys abused as kids? That's exactly why there are so many "bad providers" on BP right now, you simps are feeding these scum bags. Your making excuses for them, blaming "mongers" for approaching them wrong and being fat and nasty, when you should blame the provider that placed the ad on backpage and signed up for this job.

I can't believe you guys are now dissing reviewers / mongers and blaming it on them for getting bad service and not the other way around. This is ridiculous! I can't believe what I just read. Really??They are the kind of guys that let their wives / girlfriends / mothers / sisters or any other woman push them around tell them what to do and they kind of like it. We call them wussies where I come from (half wimp half pussy). They don't know any better, they have been well trained and there is nothing you or I can say or do that will change their programmed minds. I suspect, they would repeat with a girl that treated them well. That will not happen, for two reasons, one, they "think" they all treat them well, and two, these girls can smell a wussy from the first call or text. They are like sharks to blood. There are so many of them out there, hence the inflated prices and GPS epidemic.

So don't be hard on them Johnny, the know not what they do.

[Aaron Hamlet]

Chumps and Capt. Save-a-Hoes. I don't care if she's sucking dicks behind a dumpster on FIB, or some granny jerking dicks in the basement as hubby watches, jerking his, or a 'one of kind special lady on SA' seeking a sugar daddy. If they taking your money, they hoes and a monger should act accordingly.

[JusTheTip]

GBs used to be $ and under, 20 guys would come through. Now organizers are asking for $. 5/ $. 6 and wonder why so many mongers flake.

[BufordDad]

GBs used to be $ and under, 20 guys would come through. Now organizers are asking for $. 5/ $. 6 and wonder why so many mongers flake.The last one I attended was kick in for the room and the party favors and you're good.

[NoRug17]

The last one I attended was kick in for the room and the party favors and you're good.Yep done those types, if you can find a women who wants multiple guys or just a ho trying to make some bank for rent or Christmas presents.

[Johnny Mapalo]

Another thing I wanted to address. Which other state or city in the USA where your going to find a better variety of hoes on backpage. I'll admit, 90% of backpage and craigslist is pure garbage, but what other city can you find a better selection of "hoes". You can go to backpage, craiglist, strip club, outside, sugar babies, street walkers, etc. There is like a never ending supply here in Atlanta. I find it highly offensive when an outsider, especially from Los Angeles, can come on here talking about "that's the type of service your getting on backpage".

Well, what kind of service do you expect on backpage? Guys expecting chics to converse with them and give them a massage before the session. LOL. Surprise, your on backpage you fucking moron. Last time I checked, there are no requirements, besides having an internet connection, to posting an ad on backpage. These are no professional escorts on backpage so don't expect professional service.

If you want a massage and conversation before you hand over your dough, then research escorting agencies in Atlanta. Dudes sifting through the reviews in the backpage section and surprised that chics are not conversing with clients and its a quick in and out thing. I mean, what do you expect from backpage. You don't want the "lowest priced dumpster trash" you need not be sifting through reviews in the "Backpage Advertiser Reviews".

You need to be sifting through the "Escort Reviews" section. Your in the wrong section. Guys, looking for Rib Eye Steak at cheap meat prices. Ridiculous. I don't know any city in the USA where the standard for backpage hoes is to talk to clients thoroughly before the session and to help them dress and walk them down to their cars. Some of you dudes are living in a fantasy world. And once again, if I look through you old post history and see that you have a inclining for banging street walkers, you should have no say in criticizing anyone.

Infact, backpage should be a huge upgrade from banging a crackhead in the backseat of you Porshe. The nerves of some of you non-writing / crackhead -street walking banging dudes are ridiculous. What do you dudes expect out of backpage? You'll be lucky to get a chic who's not strung out on drugs, or pimped out or worn out. Most of backpage is garbage!! Only 10 percent of backpage is worth a fuck.

And the amount of money you spend on backpage does not equate better service. There are plenty of simps who spend $300 and get ripped off. Infact, I thought the idea was to get the most bang for you buck, not to see who can pay more for a qv. That's another thing. Since when is bragging about how much you pay for or don't pay for a qv, a good thing. Guys bragging about paying $125 for a qv and wouldn't dare pay for a $60 qv as if he's getting something better at $125.

Surprise!! The only thing your getting better is looks and location. That's it!! Most of those high-priced qv girls are a waste of time and self-entitled brats. They feel as if they're doing you a favor at that rate and that rate is really a suckas rate. If your paying over $100 and everything is covered, you've been suckered. I don't care what you say. This is why those girls are always targeting a certain age and race of guys. They know were are desperate and gullible enough to pay a ridiculous rate for half-assed service.

[The Parrot]

Another thing I wanted to address. Which other state or city in the USA where your going to find a better variety of hoes on backpage. I'll admit, 90% of backpage and craigslist is pure garbage, but what other city can you find a better selection of "hoes". You can go to backpage, craiglist, strip club, outside, sugar babies, street walkers, etc. There is like a never ending supply here in Atlanta. I find it highly offensive when an outsider, especially from Los Angeles, can come on here talking about "that's the type of service your getting on backpage".

Well, what kind of service do you expect on backpage? Guys expecting chics to converse with them and give them a massage before the session. LOL. Surprise, your on backpage you fucking moron. Last time I checked, there are no requirements, besides having an internet connection, to posting an ad on backpage. These are no professional escorts on backpage so don't expect professional service.

If you want a massage and conversation before you hand over your dough, then research escorting agencies in Atlanta. Dudes sifting through the reviews in the backpage section and surprised that chics are not conversing with clients and its a quick in and out thing. I mean, what do you expect from backpage. You don't want the "lowest priced dumpster trash" you need not be sifting through reviews in the "Backpage Advertiser Reviews".

You need to be sifting through the "Escort Reviews" section. Your in the wrong section. Guys, looking for Rib Eye Steak at cheap meat prices. Ridiculous. I don't know any city in the USA where the standard for backpage hoes is to talk to clients thoroughly before the session and to help them dress and walk them down to their cars. Some of you dudes are living in a fantasy world. And once again, if I look through you old post history and see that you have a inclining for banging street walkers, you should have no say in criticizing anyone.

Infact, backpage should be a huge upgrade from banging a crackhead in the backseat of you Porshe. The nerves of some of you non-writing / crackhead -street walking banging dudes are ridiculous. What do you dudes expect out of backpage? You'll be lucky to get a chic who's not strung out on drugs, or pimped out or worn out. Most of backpage is garbage!! Only 10 percent of backpage is worth a fuck.

And the amount of money you spend on backpage does not equate better service. There are plenty of simps who spend $300 and get ripped off. Infact, I thought the idea was to get the most bang for you buck, not to see who can pay more for a qv. That's another thing. Since when is bragging about how much you pay for or don't pay for a qv, a good thing. Guys bragging about paying $125 for a qv and wouldn't dare pay for a $60 qv as if he's getting something better at $125.

Surprise!! The only thing your getting better is looks and location. That's it!! Most of those high-priced qv girls are a waste of time and self-entitled brats. They feel as if they're doing you a favor at that rate and that rate is really a suckas rate. If your paying over $100 and everything is covered, you've been suckered. I don't care what you say. This is why those girls are always targeting a certain age and race of guys. They know were are desperate and gullible enough to pay a ridiculous rate for half-assed service.Wow, you really hit the nail on the head. I admire your bravery to speak such truths on this site. I would get an infraction or be banned if I spoke the truth like you.

We are still preaching to the choir though, simps aren't going anywhere and they are making the game harder. I also hate idiots who brag about spending lots on a Backpage bird. They are bragging about being simps, how pathetic.

Every once in a while one of those old and stupid simps gets killed. Just like the old simp spending top dollar on street walkers who got murdered on Glenwood. That was a good thing, I wish it would happen more often. Unfortunately, simps aren't going anywhere and they aren't learning anything new. Let them get used, some of those cucked idiots are married and love being treated like crap.

[ReaperGuy]

Another thing I wanted to address. Which other state or city in the USA where your going to find a better variety of hoes on backpage. I'll admit, 90% of backpage and craigslist is pure garbage, but what other city can you find a better selection of "hoes". You can go to backpage, craiglist, strip club, outside, sugar babies, street walkers, etc. There is like a never ending supply here in Atlanta. I find it highly offensive when an outsider, especially from Los Angeles, can come on here talking about "that's the type of service your getting on backpage".

Well, what kind of service do you expect on backpage? Guys expecting chics to converse with them and give them a massage before the session. LOL. Surprise, your on backpage you fucking moron. Last time I checked, there are no requirements, besides having an internet connection, to posting an ad on backpage. These are no professional escorts on backpage so don't expect professional service.

If you want a massage and conversation before you hand over your dough, then research escorting agencies in Atlanta. Dudes sifting through the reviews in the backpage section and surprised that chics are not conversing with clients and its a quick in and out thing. I mean, what do you expect from backpage. You don't want the "lowest priced dumpster trash" you need not be sifting through reviews in the "Backpage Advertiser Reviews"..You sure are a butthurt crybaby aren't you, can dish it out but can't take it?

[Johnny Mapalo]

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[The Parrot]

http://www.welfarecutscountdown.com

I don't know who is aware, but check out this counter. In 4 days on December. 16th welfare cuts take place. 25% cuts to welfare and section 8, plus there will be new rules that recipients have to work if they are able-bodied.

Now, I have never been on welfare and I don't know of anyone who is on it.

I do wonder how this will effect the monger economics though. I expect more hoodrat baby Mamas to be offering BBBJCIM for even more reasonable prices.

I expect the streetwalker prospects to rise GREATLY!

Face it, there are just some lazy azz birds who live off the system and don't know any other way to survive; or refuse to get their lives together.

It sounds bad, but I plan to take advantage of these new cuts. I will be patrolling Glenwood, Lakewood and other hoods for new talent.

BP and CL prospects should increase as well.

We never have much political discussions here. What do you guys think of Trump's welfare cuts, will they MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN?

[BufordDad]

http://www.welfarecutscountdown.com

I don't know who is aware, but check out this counter. In 4 days on December. 16th welfare cuts take place. 25% cuts to welfare and section 8, plus there will be new rules that recipients have to work if they are able-bodied.

Now, I have never been on welfare and I don't know of anyone who is on it.

I do wonder how this will effect the monger economics though. I expect more hoodrat baby Mamas to be offering BBBJCIM for even more reasonable prices.

I expect the streetwalker prospects to rise GREATLY!

Face it, there are just some lazy azz birds who live off the system and don't know any other way to survive; or refuse to get their lives together.

It sounds bad, but I plan to take advantage of these new cuts. I will be patrolling Glenwood, Lakewood and other hoods for new talent.

BP and CL prospects should increase as well.

We never have much political discussions here. What do you guys think of Trump's welfare cuts, will they MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN?While I don't plan on trolling hoodrat mamas in the projects I'll have to admit that the menu of girls doing massages and rubs during the last recession was great for the hobby. Seems like when the economy got a bit straightened out they all went back to work. Not sure there is any good signs for that crowd but would agree with you that there should be an up-tick in at least the offerings and maybe at a discount.

[Niteluvr]

http://www.welfarecutscountdown.com

I don't know who is aware, but check out this counter. In 4 days on December. 16th welfare cuts take place. 25% cuts to welfare and section 8, plus there will be new rules that recipients have to work if they are able-bodied.

Now, I have never been on welfare and I don't know of anyone who is on it.

I do wonder how this will effect the monger economics though. I expect more hoodrat baby Mamas to be offering BBBJCIM for even more reasonable prices.

I expect the streetwalker prospects to rise GREATLY!

Face it, there are just some lazy azz birds who live off the system and don't know any other way to survive; or refuse to get their lives together.

It sounds bad, but I plan to take advantage of these new cuts. I will be patrolling Glenwood, Lakewood and other hoods for new talent.

BP and CL prospects should increase as well.

We never have much political discussions here. What do you guys think of Trump's welfare cuts, will they MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN?If we get rid of all of the shit that plagues this country then, yes, those efforts will make this country great again. Obama was a political pussy, too scared to do anything unless it could possibly benefit his legacy.

Trump is not the perfect president, but at least he's trying. Your insinuation is lame, but cute: 'Now, I have never been on welfare and I don't know of anyone who is on it. ' I'd bet you know many but would never admit it.

I personally don't know anyone who would consider asking for a handout. If they did, I would continue to do what I've done in the past.

you mean like these guys? https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/govbeat/wp/2015/03/17/the-united-states-of-subsidies-the-biggest-corporate-winners-in-each-state/?utm_term=.2fe8781e80fa

Or Walmart? You pay the medical insurance and food stamps for 95% of Walmart Employees. Lets not forget where the spend those food stamps.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/clareoconnor/2014/04/15/report-walmart-workers-cost-taxpayers-6-2-billion-in-public-assistance/#40f61905720b

Billions of dollars, the twos and fews that individuals take don't even compare.

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[JusTheTip]

While I don't plan on trolling hoodrat mamas in the projects I'll have to admit that the menu of girls doing massages and rubs during the last recession was great for the hobby. Seems like when the economy got a bit straightened out they all went back to work. Not sure there is any good signs for that crowd but would agree with you that there should be an up-tick in at least the offerings and maybe at a discount.I won't take any joy...

Who am I kidding.

[Bunnery Sgt]

If we get rid of all of the shit that plagues this country then, yes, those efforts will make this country great again. Obama was a political pussy, too scared to do anything unless it could possibly benefit his legacy.

Trump is not the perfect president, but at least he's trying. Your insinuation is lame, but cute: 'Now, I have never been on welfare and I don't know of anyone who is on it. ' I'd bet you know many but would never admit it.

I personally don't know anyone who would consider asking for a handout. If they did, I would continue to do what I've done in the past.

you mean like these guys? https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/govbeat/wp/2015/03/17/the-united-states-of-subsidies-the-biggest-corporate-winners-in-each-state/?utm_term=.2fe8781e80fa

Or Walmart? You pay the medical insurance and food stamps for 95% of Walmart Employees. Lets not forget where the spend those food stamps.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/clareoconnor/2014/04/15/report-walmart-workers-cost-taxpayers-6-2-billion-in-public-assistance/#40f61905720b

Billions of dollars, the twos and fews that individuals take don't even compare.

A2I can't even wrap my head around this post. Ignorance truly is bliss.

[The Parrot]

If we get rid of all of the shit that plagues this country then, yes, those efforts will make this country great again. Obama was a political pussy, too scared to do anything unless it could possibly benefit his legacy.

Trump is not the perfect president, but at least he's trying. Your insinuation is lame, but cute: 'Now, I have never been on welfare and I don't know of anyone who is on it. ' I'd bet you know many but would never admit it.

I personally don't know anyone who would consider asking for a handout. If they did, I would continue to do what I've done in the past.

you mean like these guys? https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/govbeat/wp/2015/03/17/the-united-states-of-subsidies-the-biggest-corporate-winners-in-each-state/?utm_term=.2fe8781e80fa

Or Walmart? You pay the medical insurance and food stamps for 95% of Walmart Employees. Lets not forget where the spend those food stamps.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/clareoconnor/2014/04/15/report-walmart-workers-cost-taxpayers-6-2-billion-in-public-assistance/#40f61905720b

Billions of dollars, the twos and fews that individuals take don't even compare.

A2I don't know anyone on welfare, unless they are hiding it from me. I don't hate people on welfare either, I do hate WELFARE QUEENS though.

Basically people who are able bodied, but choose to live off the system, because it's easy.

Nobody has answered the questions though.

Will his welfare cuts help MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN?

[Bunnery Sgt]

I can't even wrap my head around this post. Ignorance truly is bliss.https://www.huffingtonpost.com/bill-quigley/ten-examples-of-welfare-for-the-rich-and-corporations_b_4589188.html

[HalliknWolk]

I don't know anyone on welfare, unless they are hiding it from me. I don't hate people on welfare either, I do hate WELFARE QUEENS though.

Basically people who are able bodied, but choose to live off the system, because it's easy.

Nobody has answered the questions though.

Will his welfare cuts help MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN?Don't know if it will make America great but it will definitely raise the crime rate tremendously.

[Niteluvr]

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/bill-quigley/ten-examples-of-welfare-for-the-rich-and-corporations_b_4589188.htmlThey need to get rid of that shit too.

Aint gonna happen

http://www.businessinsider.com/major-study-finds-that-the-us-is-an-oligarchy-2014-4

Too much of that money finds it's way back through political action committees.

Doesn't matter which side of the aisle you're sitting on.

You should look into this if you want to get really pissed off

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oy7TUtlPmqk

Seriously bubba, this idea of liberals and conservatives? Doesn't exist. It's just words to make you think you're picking a side.

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[The Parrot]

Don't know if it will make America great but it will definitely raise the crime rate tremendously.Yea, it definitely will cause criminals to get even more desperate.

Keep it real though, we benefit from certain "crime," ya know the providers we see and the whole legality of it, etc.

Trump is pro police though, he says he's going to ramp up on police presence. Basically the country will be more of a police state than it already is.

Look at how horrible crime is in Chicago. They need to send in the army to control the gangs.

I do like his policy of AMERICA FIRST! I also hope he will double down on immigration enforcement.

Will Trump actually be able to get a border wall constructed?

It will be the biggest boondoggle in the history of American politics if he does. Not saying that we shouldn't secure our borders but nobody who has half a brain and has driven I-10 from Texas to California thinks it will work. It's a vast distance.

It's a simple fix, no wall is needed. Fine anybody employing an undocumented worker 100K per worker and the market disappears overnight without spending a couple trillion dollars. Though if you do that, you can't pass out all that government welfare to the construction companies building the wall.

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[The Parrot]

Yea, it definitely will cause criminals to get even more desperate.

Keep it real though, we benefit from certain "crime," ya know the providers we see and the whole legality of it, etc.

Trump is pro police though, he says he's going to ramp up on police presence. Basically the country will be more of a police state than it already is.

Look at how horrible crime is in Chicago. They need to send in the army to control the gangs.

I do like his policy of AMERICA FIRST! I also hope he will double down on immigration enforcement.

Will Trump actually be able to get a border wall constructed?

It will be the biggest boondoggle in the history of American politics if he does. Not saying that we shouldn't secure our borders but nobody who has half a brain and has driven I-10 from Texas to California thinks it will work. It's a vast distance.

It's a simple fix, no wall is needed. Fine anybody employing an undocumented worker 100K per worker and the market disappears overnight without spending a couple trillion dollars. Though if you do that, you can't pass out all that government welfare to the construction companies building the wall.

A2Not to defend his policies, but it's definitely possible. It's ridiculous, but look at the great Wall of China.

It is definitely possible, but would it really work?

Illegals are going to find a way to escape and traffic drugs in. The cartels may even destroy portions of the wall.

Also, what do you guys think about Roy Moore losing the Senate race in Alabama? That will make things harder for Trump with a Democrat in his seat.

[Wleakr]

Not to defend his policies, but it's definitely possible. It's ridiculous, but look at the great Wall of China.

It is definitely possible, but would it really work?

Illegals are going to find a way to escape and traffic drugs in. The cartels may even destroy portions of the wall.

Also, what do you guys think about Roy Moore losing the Senate race in Alabama? That will make things harder for Trump with a Democrat in his seat.Not really surprised. It's actually probably good for the Republicans to not have to deal with even more negative stuff had Moore won. And I don't think it makes it any more harder for Trump than before. They couldn't get Obamacare pushed out with having the Republican majority edge and the tax bill still needs work to get through (and, who knows, it may not). Business as usual in the Trump WH.

[Trojano]

Will Trump actually be able to get a border wall constructed?

It will be the biggest boondoggle in the history of American politics if he does. Not saying that we shouldn't secure our borders but nobody who has half a brain and has driven I-10 from Texas to California thinks it will work. It's a vast distance.

It's a simple fix, no wall is needed. Fine anybody employing an undocumented worker 100K per worker and the market disappears overnight without spending a couple trillion dollars. Though if you do that, you can't pass out all that government welfare to the construction companies building the wall.

A2Spot on observation, and it points to the bigger issue. If we had ever truly wanted to control illegal immigration we could have done it a long time ago (spanning both democratic and republican administrations). We (the country as a whole) wanted the cheap labor - "we" American businesses liked the impact to the bottom line, and "we" American consumers liked lower prices. It is absolutely disingenuous and farcical to pretend that the world's remaining superpower is being unfairly victimized by a bunch of poor people crossing the desert to mow lawns and clean hotel rooms. Unfortunately, in today's America, common sense, integrity, and character play no role in shaping public policy.

Don't forget stoop labor to get the veggies and fruit in from the fields.

You fellas in Atlanta don't have to look far to see that

https://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2011/06/georgias-harsh-immigration-law-costs-millions-in-unharvested-crops/240774/

They had the same thing in South Carolina which prompted Colbert to testify in front of Congress in character.

All this is just none issue bullshit like election fraud.

A2

[Niteluvr]

Spot on observation, and it points to the bigger issue. If we had ever truly wanted to control illegal immigration we could have done it a long time ago (spanning both democratic and republican administrations). We (the country as a whole) wanted the cheap labor - "we" American businesses liked the impact to the bottom line, and "we" American consumers liked lower prices. It is absolutely disingenuous and farcical to pretend that the world's remaining superpower is being unfairly victimized by a bunch of poor people crossing the desert to mow lawns and clean hotel rooms. Unfortunately, in today's America, common sense, integrity, and character play no role in shaping public policy.

Don't forget stoop labor to get the veggies and fruit in from the fields.

You fellas in Atlanta don't have to look far to see that

https://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2011/06/georgias-harsh-immigration-law-costs-millions-in-unharvested-crops/240774/

They had the same thing in South Carolina which prompted Colbert to testify in front of Congress in character.

All this is just none issue bullshit like election fraud.

A2Try to get the more important focus next time. You are way off the mark.

I know guys like you don't like dealing with facts when you have your prejudices but the truth is the state department should be sending people to Mexico with Uhauls and bags of cash to encourage immigration.

https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2017-01-03/make-america-mate-again

But again, facts and you don't get along very well.

A2

PS, maybe you can explain this one to me. How can you make The Greatest Country in the World "great again?"

[MrHobbyist]

Try to get the more important focus next time. You are way off the mark.

I know guys like you don't like dealing with facts when you have your prejudices but the truth is the state department should be sending people to Mexico with Uhauls and bags of cash to encourage immigration.

https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2017-01-03/make-america-mate-again

But again, facts and you don't get along very well.

A2

PS, maybe you can explain this one to me. How can you make The Greatest Country in the World "great again?"I know, the country has decided to be bi-polar. It's either left, or it's right. The country is only as great as its people make it. The people that think it's a great country, are, for the most part quiet. E. g. , Nixon's silent majority. The people that don't think its great are getting sensationalized by the entertainment industry that some call *news*. But, of course, I have the solution! To all of it! LOL.

My solution is simple. We Annex Mexico. It's cheaper than the wall, and won't get busted down in a couple of decades when people realize it is a bar to good trade and common sense. Just annex the country and spend the wall money moving families and regular people north. Then make it a free for all area. Everything is legal. Gambling, Prostitution, Drugs, you name it, if it's illegal here it's legal. If one wants to engage in debauchery and is brave enough they can go to Mexico for a weekend of the wild south. The self righteous can stfu. The government can regulate quality and tax the shit out of it. In one fell swoop, we fix most of the immigration problem, wipe out the deficit, and best of all, I get to move to Mexico City and open a brothel! .

[The Parrot]

Try to get the more important focus next time. You are way off the mark.

I know guys like you don't like dealing with facts when you have your prejudices but the truth is the state department should be sending people to Mexico with Uhauls and bags of cash to encourage immigration.

https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2017-01-03/make-america-mate-again

But again, facts and you don't get along very well.

A2

PS, maybe you can explain this one to me. How can you make The Greatest Country in the World "great again?"A2, I can answer your question.

Your question: "how can we make the greatest country in the world great again".

My answer: Bring back the country's INDUSTRIAL STRENGTH like we had during world war 2.

1) When one German plane went down, they were maybe 200 or so waiting to ship out and 100 in development.

2) When ONE American plane went down, there were 1000's FINISHED and ready to replace it, and 1000's being build that very second!

3) The united States is NOT the great industrial powerhouse it once was. We cannot out produce other nations like we used to. We don't manufacture anything in America anymore. Everything is overseas, we need to make America the great industrial powerhouse it ONCE WAS!

Now that is a coherent argument, what is your response to that A2? Surely you can agree that American industry has GREATLY DECLINED Along with it's economy.

I'm really interested in hearing your response to this.

Side note: I don't necessarily disagree about the immigration issues. I definitely need to learn more about the ramifications of a wall.

I doubt the wall will get built though, and I doubt Mexico will pay for it.

Also, at one point in time America was 100% debt free and independent.

That is no longer the case, MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN! (not saying I support Trump).

These are all FACTS, since you love dealing with FACTS.

[The Parrot]

There was also a point in time where America STAYED OUT OF FOREIGN AFFAIRS.

Let's make it GREAT like that again.

Let's STOP trying to police the world, let other nations handle their own issues.

Get rid of the United Nations also!

Remember the words of our founding fathers George Washington: "STAY OUT OF EUROPEAN AFFAIRS!

Remember this nation once had an isolationist policy. Of course it was much smaller then, and wasn't a super power.

Come one guys, let's here you take o. This. Do you agree with me, or am I full of it??

Keep it real.

[Zipper34]

I do think that everybody that comes in here from Mexico or some other country should go through the legal process to be legalized to stay here. Our own country has made very controversial decisions some times though. After World War 2 lots of immigrants from many countries were allowed to come live here and there was no way to know if they were war criminals when letting them in unless they happened to get recognized by a lot of people who immigrated too which did happen. Nazi scientists were also brought here to help make our defense system more sophisticated back then too. We've always been letting people from other countries in here but things have happened where the USA Government has drawn that fine line. I think that guy being found not guilty of shooting that girl who was an illlegal from Mexico is going to end up being one of those things where the government draws the line again. The government has already showed us many times since 9/11 that they will take care of things however necessary. Also showed us they will take care of things economically too. The government letting a huge bank go bust in 2008 was more than convincing for me.

[Ronny770]

I was watching those international mongering videos on youtube, Thailand, Dominican Republic, Costa Rica, etc. I was wondering did anyone take a trip out there yet? A fine Dominican woman staying the the night for 30 dollars sounding pretty good right now.

[Zipper34]

There was also a point in time where America STAYED OUT OF FOREIGN AFFAIRS.

Let's make it GREAT like that again.

Let's STOP trying to police the world, let other nations handle their own issues.

Get rid of the United Nations also!

Remember the words of our founding fathers George Washington: "STAY OUT OF EUROPEAN AFFAIRS!

Remember this nation once had an isolationist policy. Of course it was much smaller then, and wasn't a super power.

Come one guys, let's here you take o. This. Do you agree with me, or am I full of it??

Keep it real.You, A2, and the other guy are making excellent points.

[Trojano]

I do think that everybody that comes in here from Mexico or some other country should go through the legal process to be legalized to stay here. Our own country has made very controversial decisions some times though. After World War 2 lots of immigrants from many countries were allowed to come live here and there was no way to know if they were war criminals when letting them in unless they happened to get recognized by a lot of people who immigrated too which did happen. Nazi scientists were also brought here to help make our defense system more sophisticated back then too. We've always been letting people from other countries in here but things have happened where the USA Government has drawn that fine line. I think that guy being found not guilty of shooting that girl who was an illlegal from Mexico is going to end up being one of those things where the government draws the line again. The government has already showed us many times since 9/11 that they will take care of things however necessary. Also showed us they will take care of things economically too. The government letting a huge bank go bust in 2008 was more than convincing for me.Immigration issues have, indeed, taken many forms in this country. A consistent theme, however, in contrast to "letting people from other countries in", has been the willful importation of cheap labor, with slavery being the biggest example, and our wink-wink-nod-nod border policy with Mexico being the more modern example. I agree that we need to enforce a real immigration policy that reflects the will of the people (whether I personally agree or not), but we have to man up when it comes to undocumented immigrants who have been here 5 years or more. We could have.

1. Greatly expanded the Guest Worker program, and.

2. Fined the hell out of anyone employing undocumented workers.

We chose not to do those things, and instead, had these low paid immigrant workers establish their homes here. Joining the local church, getting married, having kids who go to school with the rest of the kids in the community, etc. They are part of the community now, and we can't just uproot people like that when they wouldn't have established their home here in the first place if we had done the two things I mentioned. We have to man up and own our part of this, give those folks a path to live here out of the shadows, and do the two things I mentioned (no wall necessary) to prevent the issue from recurring.

[Trojano]

A2, I can answer your question.

Your question: "how can we make the greatest country in the world great again".

My answer: Bring back the country's INDUSTRIAL STRENGTH like we had during world war 2.

1) When one German plane went down, they were maybe 200 or so waiting to ship out and 100 in development.

2) When ONE American plane went down, there were 1000's FINISHED and ready to replace it, and 1000's being build that very second!

3) The united States is NOT the great industrial powerhouse it once was. We cannot out produce other nations like we used to. We don't manufacture anything in America anymore. Everything is overseas, we need to make America the great industrial powerhouse it ONCE WAS!Why has manufacturing been outsourced? We get the same dynamic that's lead to our immigration issue: Cheap labor = enhanced profits for American businesses and lower prices for American consumers. If you read the article that A2 linked to you'll see demographic trends which, combined with unemployment at 4% (essentially full employment), means there isn't anyone to fill those manufacturing jobs you pine for (and they certainly wouldn't pay enough to support a middle class lifestyle like they used to). As far as being debt free, that's one of the reasons the current tax plan being shoved down America's throat is so bad. It does nothing for wage earners, and increases the national debt by up to $1 to $2 trillion in order to give tax breaks to "profit makers". It won't stimulate economic growth because it doesn't encourage productive investment, meanwhile organic growth is constrained by demographics and pathetic trends in terms of productivity improvement. The only result will be a further widening of this country's already grotesque economic inequality gap which does the opposite of making this country great.

[HalliknWolk]

I was watching those international mongering videos on youtube, Thailand, Dominican Republic, Costa Rica, etc. I was wondering did anyone take a trip out there yet? A fine Dominican woman staying the the night for 30 dollars sounding pretty good right now.Its mongers who take group trips for that exact purpose.

[John HandCock]

I was watching those international mongering videos on youtube, Thailand, Dominican Republic, Costa Rica, etc. I was wondering did anyone take a trip out there yet? A fine Dominican woman staying the the night for 30 dollars sounding pretty good right now.Yeah but what's that 30 dollar pussy going to cost ya to get there and stay there? Maybe if you can have an extended vacation it might be worth it or find a group discount tour it might work out.

[Ozymandias]

There was also a point in time where America STAYED OUT OF FOREIGN AFFAIRS.

Let's make it GREAT like that again.

Let's STOP trying to police the world, let other nations handle their own issues.

Get rid of the United Nations also!

Remember the words of our founding fathers George Washington: "STAY OUT OF EUROPEAN AFFAIRS!

Remember this nation once had an isolationist policy. Of course it was much smaller then, and wasn't a super power.

Come one guys, let's here you take o. This. Do you agree with me, or am I full of it??

Keep it real.Not to get involved in the discussion (I get enough politics outside of the hobby), but there's considerable strategic benefit in "meddling" in world affairs, on several levels.

First, the last thing the US needs is a geopolitically stable world: when you're at the hegemonic apex, you WANT little regional wars going on, and you certainly don't want stable coalitions forming in which the US isn't a strategic partner. Get rid of the UN? That's an awful idea: it's literally a building right in the middle of Manhattan where the USA can act as the spider at the center of the web. Spiders don't like losing their webs.

And relative to US economic power, the UN costs nothing; our ROI is IMMENSE there.

And as far as staying out of foreign affairs, no thanks. I have literally flown into foreign nations, went to the US Embassy and Department of Commerce office the next day, and been introduced to attorneys, politicians, CEOs and other power players so I can start making money immediately. I am doing this for a project in *Nepal* right now, of all places. That's totally a USA privilege.

And even in a hot war, there's no downside. The USA is invulnerable to invasion, it controls all the world's oceans, it controls, de facto, nearly all global commerce (something like 95% depend on container ship transit, which the USA can shut down regionally or globally); that's an almost absurdly strong position to be in.

The USA is an empire, and if history teaches anything, it's that when an empire decides to turtle down, that's the end; empires have to be out there in the field, managing.

O.

[The Parrot]

Not to get involved in the discussion (I get enough politics outside of the hobby), but there's considerable strategic benefit in "meddling" in world affairs, on several levels.

First, the last thing the US needs is a geopolitically stable world: when you're at the hegemonic apex, you WANT little regional wars going on, and you certainly don't want stable coalitions forming in which the US isn't a strategic partner. Get rid of the UN? That's an awful idea: it's literally a building right in the middle of Manhattan where the USA can act as the spider at the center of the web. Spiders don't like losing their webs.

And relative to US economic power, the UN costs nothing; our ROI is IMMENSE there.

And as far as staying out of foreign affairs, no thanks. I have literally flown into foreign nations, went to the US Embassy and Department of Commerce office the next day, and been introduced to attorneys, politicians, CEOs and other power players so I can start making money immediately. I am doing this for a project in *Nepal* right now, of all places. That's totally a USA privilege.

And even in a hot war, there's no downside. The USA is invulnerable to invasion, it controls all the world's oceans, it controls, de facto, nearly all global commerce (something like 95% depend on container ship transit, which the USA can shut down regionally or globally); that's an almost absurdly strong position to be in.

The USA is an empire, and if history teaches anything, it's that when an empire decides to turtle down, that's the end; empires have to be out there in the field, managing.

O.I appreciate your angle, what you say is true. I can't really argue against that, all I can say is: consider the cost our troops pay. Silly things like the Vietnam war and other frivolous affairs throw the lives of our young men away for zero gains.

I understand the importance of maintaining a position of power, but warfare and conflicts are ever evolving. There is ALWAYS a price to pay Now everything is digital this, digital that, secret bomb this, hidden weapon that. Innocent citizens are going to be dropping like flies from this ISIS crap. Or whatever new radical organization rises up.

Also, a lot of those nations want our bases OFF their territory. I don't believe the world can be policed forever though. What happens when other nations start pushing back even harder??

Then again, nothing lasts forever. Enjoy your privileges, as of now I can't relate.

[Johnny Mapalo]

This thread is becoming too politicized. Recently I've noticed people talking about a chic isn't worth this and that and she can't be charging those rates if she's fat and ugly or if she lives in a ghetto environment. In my opinion, if a chic does her work and doesn't bish or complain or smell like shit, then she can charge whatever she wants. But when I read a review of how a chic charged a guy $250 for 30 minutes with no BJ, then I have to voice my opinion. If a chic, like say, Shelly, puts in the work for years and have 100's of reviews and she's well verified, then I can see a chic like her not doing any cheap specials anymore and charging top dollar.

Shit, she's earned that right after putting in so much years of work. That's like me playing in the Nfl and winning a superbowl ring, then wanting my contract renegotiated for more money, especially if was key to the team winning the Super Bowl. Damn right I want more money and not taking mininum salary anymore. I think a chic like Shelly, regardless of how fat and ugly she is, deserves to raise her rates and refuse to work for peanuts anymore. She's worth it after countless years of slobbing bare knobs and swallowing random loads. A chic llke that knows she can get at least $200 for fat pocket simps, why should she be running $50 specials for an hour anymore.

She should be beneath that at this point in her life. It would be in her best interest to cut ties with the penny pinchers and start rolling with the big ballers. Her demand is greater so she needs to increase her rates to compare with that demand. Now, any old chic on backpage or craigslist or anywhere else increasing their rates for no reason at all, when they have no reviews to back up their work is ridiculous. But if a chic is in a ghetto area like Clarkston or whatever and she wants to charge $200 for 30 minutes and she is GFE and does her work, then I don't see any problems with this. If she doesn't half ass or doesn't have any sexual hangups, like I don't get on top or no BJ nonsense, then I don't see why she can't charge that.

You may have other girls at cheaper price but at that cheaper price you also get bad hygiene, high on drugs, half-assed service, etc. Also, all these chics on backpage and craigslist are all in the same riggidy broke down ass boat. They're all placing ads on the net because they're looking for fast money. All of them!! 90% of backpage and craigslist is garbage!! Your gunna find more germs than gems on those sites. Most of those chic's live in nasty environments, smell like shit and give half-assed service. You can't judge a book by the cover though.

I've been to some nasty ass houses, rooms and the chics were smelling fresh as roses. Likewise, I've been into some nice clean condos and hotels and the chics were high as a kite, smelled like a fucking ram goat and gave the most half-assed entitled service ever. What I've learned too is that all of these chics are the same. They're all about getting money and getting as many guys in and out of that room as quickly as possible.

You'd think these dumbasses would work on building a client base where they wouldn't have to be spamming backpage and craigslist night and day trying to go through as many guys as possible, but that's not the case with these lugnuts. They come into this thing thinking they can make some fast money by spamming the hell out of the board with their ads and running through as many guys as possible. Even if they're turning tricks every 30 minutes, how long do these fools think that will last.

How many hard rammings can you take per day before you become sore and worn out. These retards don't even think about that as they spam the boards night and day. If you'd get regulars who you know are coming with that guaranteed $100,200 dollars, then you can sit back and relax and not have to be spamming the boards all day. These people are so fucking stupid the way they run business.

And when they do get a dumbass simp whose dumb enough to pay for their uber to them and back and give them $200 per hour on top of that, you read the review of how they rushed the guy and tried to upsell on everything as if they're guaranteed to get another $200 and a free Uber ride from the next simp. If you would have treated that first simp right and not trying to run through as many simps as possible, then you could have had his repeat business plus he could have told his other simp friends and you have more guys paying you $200 plus your Uber ride back and forth.

These chics are too dumb and strung out on drugs too realize how easy they have it. All you gots' to do is lay there and give out a few fake moans and groans and that's all most of these desperate simps want. But no, these dumb ass broads can't even do that right. They're rushing to finish and upselling to try to get as much money out of a guy as they possibly can. That's why I salute a chic like Shelly. She's put in the work and she's now commanding top dollar.

She deserves it to do that. She worked hard for it. The rest of these bottom feeder hoes can keep penny pinching and spamming the boards night and day. They deserves nothing!!

[GobMan]

I wish the global economy would crash again, gas and the food prices skyrocket, and unemployment rate push 10%. I miss George Bush, cheap pussy, and affordable housing. Call me uncivilized, but a rescession is awesome if you keep some change.

[The Parrot]

I wish the global economy would crash again, gas and the food prices skyrocket, and unemployment rate push 10%. I miss George Bush, cheap pussy, and affordable housing. Call me uncivilized, but a rescession is awesome if you keep some change.Wow, you are truly ruthless bro. I can't blame you fir taking advantage of opportunity though.

[Allen981]

This thread is becoming too politicized. Recently I've noticed people talking about a chic isn't worth this and that and she can't be charging those rates if she's fat and ugly or if she lives in a ghetto environment. In my opinion, if a chic does her work and doesn't bish or complain or smell like shit, then she can charge whatever she wants. But when I read a review of how a chic charged a guy $250 for 30 minutes with no BJ, then I have to voice my opinion. If a chic, like say, Shelly, puts in the work for years and have 100's of reviews and she's well verified, then I can see a chic like her not doing any cheap specials anymore and charging top dollar.

Shit, she's earned that right after putting in so much years of work. That's like me playing in the Nfl and winning a superbowl ring, then wanting my contract renegotiated for more money, especially if was key to the team winning the Super Bowl. Damn right I want more money and not taking mininum salary anymore. I think a chic like Shelly, regardless of how fat and ugly she is, deserves to raise her rates and refuse to work for peanuts anymore. She's worth it after countless years of slobbing bare knobs and swallowing random loads. A chic llke that knows she can get at least $200 for fat pocket simps, why should she be running $50 specials for an hour anymore.

She should be beneath that at this point in her life. It would be in her best interest to cut ties with the penny pinchers and start rolling with the big ballers. Her demand is greater so she needs to increase her rates to compare with that demand. Now, any old chic on backpage or craigslist or anywhere else increasing their rates for no reason at all, when they have no reviews to back up their work is ridiculous. But if a chic is in a ghetto area like Clarkston or whatever and she wants to charge $200 for 30 minutes and she is GFE and does her work, then I don't see any problems with this. If she doesn't half ass or doesn't have any sexual hangups, like I don't get on top or no BJ nonsense, then I don't see why she can't charge that.

You may have other girls at cheaper price but at that cheaper price you also get bad hygiene, high on drugs, half-assed service, etc. Also, all these chics on backpage and craigslist are all in the same riggidy broke down ass boat. They're all placing ads on the net because they're looking for fast money. All of them!! 90% of backpage and craigslist is garbage!! Your gunna find more germs than gems on those sites. Most of those chic's live in nasty environments, smell like shit and give half-assed service. You can't judge a book by the cover though.

I've been to some nasty ass houses, rooms and the chics were smelling fresh as roses. Likewise, I've been into some nice clean condos and hotels and the chics were high as a kite, smelled like a fucking ram goat and gave the most half-assed entitled service ever. What I've learned too is that all of these chics are the same. They're all about getting money and getting as many guys in and out of that room as quickly as possible.

You'd think these dumbasses would work on building a client base where they wouldn't have to be spamming backpage and craigslist night and day trying to go through as many guys as possible, but that's not the case with these lugnuts. They come into this thing thinking they can make some fast money by spamming the hell out of the board with their ads and running through as many guys as possible. Even if they're turning tricks every 30 minutes, how long do these fools think that will last.

How many hard rammings can you take per day before you become sore and worn out. These retards don't even think about that as they spam the boards night and day. If you'd get regulars who you know are coming with that guaranteed $100,200 dollars, then you can sit back and relax and not have to be spamming the boards all day. These people are so fucking stupid the way they run business.

And when they do get a dumbass simp whose dumb enough to pay for their uber to them and back and give them $200 per hour on top of that, you read the review of how they rushed the guy and tried to upsell on everything as if they're guaranteed to get another $200 and a free Uber ride from the next simp. If you would have treated that first simp right and not trying to run through as many simps as possible, then you could have had his repeat business plus he could have told his other simp friends and you have more guys paying you $200 plus your Uber ride back and forth.

These chics are too dumb and strung out on drugs too realize how easy they have it. All you gots' to do is lay there and give out a few fake moans and groans and that's all most of these desperate simps want. But no, these dumb ass broads can't even do that right. They're rushing to finish and upselling to try to get as much money out of a guy as they possibly can. That's why I salute a chic like Shelly. She's put in the work and she's now commanding top dollar.

She deserves it to do that. She worked hard for it. The rest of these bottom feeder hoes can keep penny pinching and spamming the boards night and day. They deserves nothing!!Hey Johnny, if you're so down on everyone associated from this hobby, from the "desperate simps" to the "bottom feeder hoes. " save your money, time and great wisdom for something more important, like achieving world peace, solving the mysteries of fusion, or contacting the aliens that are apparently watching us.

If you have something meaningful to share regarding a specific provider, or a website, or anything specific, then share it. But your incredibly detailed missives that rail against any and all are mind numbingly idiotic and tiresome. Do yourself a favor. STOP. Just, STOP. We'll have more fun on this board, your blood pressure will drop, and the world will be full and sweet once again.

[Roddee]

Hey Johnny, if you're so down on everyone associated from this hobby, from the "desperate simps" to the "bottom feeder hoes. " save your money, time and great wisdom for something more important, like achieving world peace, solving the mysteries of fusion, or contacting the aliens that are apparently watching us.

If you have something meaningful to share regarding a specific provider, or a website, or anything specific, then share it. But your incredibly detailed missives that rail against any and all are mind numbingly idiotic and tiresome. Do yourself a favor. STOP. Just, STOP. We'll have more fun on this board, your blood pressure will drop, and the world will be full and sweet once again.I feel what you're saying. But uh, this is the Rant and Rave section. It was designed specifically for what you're telling him not to do.

[ReaperGuy]

Hey Johnny, if you're so down on everyone associated from this hobby, from the "desperate simps" to the "bottom feeder hoes. " save your money, time and great wisdom for something more important, like achieving world peace, solving the mysteries of fusion, or contacting the aliens that are apparently watching us.

If you have something meaningful to share regarding a specific provider, or a website, or anything specific, then share it. But your incredibly detailed missives that rail against any and all are mind numbingly idiotic and tiresome. Do yourself a favor. STOP. Just, STOP. We'll have more fun on this board, your blood pressure will drop, and the world will be full and sweet once again.Funny, hat's probably the most accurate and least rant-like post he's made.

[Johnny Mapalo]

Hey Johnny, if you're so down on everyone associated from this hobby, from the "desperate simps" to the "bottom feeder hoes. " save your money, time and great wisdom for something more important, like achieving world peace, solving the mysteries of fusion, or contacting the aliens that are apparently watching us.

If you have something meaningful to share regarding a specific provider, or a website, or anything specific, then share it. But your incredibly detailed missives that rail against any and all are mind numbingly idiotic and tiresome. Do yourself a favor. STOP. Just, STOP. We'll have more fun on this board, your blood pressure will drop, and the world will be full and sweet once again.You do realize that your in the rants and rave section of the board, don't you. That's exactly what this section of the board is designed for, to air out all of.

Your grievances. What do you suggest we do on this side of the board? Hold hands and sing Kumbaya while we talk about how much we love the site. At least my post is appropriate. Just take a hop, skip, and a jump over to the backpage review section where they're talking about what's racist and what's not racist.

What the hell does that have to do with any freaking reviews. Clogging up the Reviews only board with stupid shit. You need to be railing against that. On a more lighter note, the holidays are upon us. Guys, don't fall for none of those "desperate simps" scams. I just saw some "simp" on craigslist talk about he sent some chic money through cash app for some pics and vids and she sent him the middle finger. LOL. Dudes, don't ever prepay for nothing with these chic's. Nothing!!

[The Parrot]

Everyone likes to talk about Trump impeachment, but no one discusses Mike Pence.

If Pence was POTUS, what would be done differently?

Would he do a better job than Trump?

Would the GOP respect and rally around him more?

[GobMan]

Wow, you are truly ruthless bro. I can't blame you fir taking advantage of opportunity though.A day later realized I went way overboard there. Definitely don't want to go back to 08. Just letting of some steam. Social media and the feminist movement just changed the game and mindset of these girls so fast. Entitled attitudes has become the norm. Everybody aspires to be the next build-a-thot Beyonce or Kardashian. Scared to have a daughter in this era. Speaking of feminism, any of you guys follow the red pill/mgtow? Can't tell if it's a legit men's movement or just a lot of scorned men in an echo chamber.