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I'm surprised to hear from you after this last response:
So which is correct, Trump did / didn't piss on horers in Moscow, Trump was / wasn't a Russian spy? Anti Trumpers like yourself didn't have major policy differences w / Trump but allow yourselves, seek out even to be mentally triggered by his personality, the media and stories made up by the media, their lies repeated over and over again. There was / is nothing to listen to the other side about. What are the major policy differences to debate? You want open borders, US dependence on China manuf our drugs, PPE, etc? A ten trillion dollar going to save the world green new deal? Everyone stays at home w / o a job and gets paid? MMT money printing? I don't think you do.You cannot take a random set of examples, subtract it from the totality of life, and conclude that the remainder is the same as your actual set. In non-math terms, you can't select a few examples and conclude that everything is ljust the same.
Any one of us can find some glaring examples of poor decision making, incorrect facts, misunderstandings, and pure falsehoods. Those examples do not make up the whole picture as you well know. Hunter's laptop? Who knows, but does it really matter any more than Trump paying hush money to women he slept with? Not to me, as neither impacts running the country, foreign policy, or the national debt, etc. We as a country are deeply emerged in a partisan fight over the foibles in life, when we can better spend our time working TOGETHER for the common good.
You are not completely right. I am not completely right. You are also not completely wrong just as I am not completely wrong. Any time you wish to discuss an issue, I am willing to do so calmly and reasoned manner. Just let me know where you want to start.
Please don't begin with "Trump preeing on horses" as it will be a very short conversation.
Work reading.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/america-s-tortured-domestic-politics-are-hampering-its-foreign-policy/ar-AANHERa?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531
Yes, its CNN. No, you don't have to agree with any of it. Yes, you do need to read it with a reasoned and open mind.
Finally, someone convicted of felony voter fraud.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/candidate-pleads-guilty-in-alleged-florida-vote-scam/ar-AANGWZG?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531
Sgt Lurker
08-27-21, 07:42
You have something else to put in your accomplishment column, the single deadliest day for our men and women in uniform in 10 years in Afghanistan! You spineless pu $$why!.
CrestWood87
08-27-21, 07:55
You have something else to put in your accomplishment column, the single deadliest day for our men and women in uniform in 10 years in Afghanistan! You spineless pu $$why!.Official release from the White House.
Official release from the White House.Its a little more complicated than you are making it.
The presumptive leader of Afghanistan is Mullah Baradar, who was imprisoned by Pakistan in 2010 and released as part of the deal then President Trump made with the Taliban in 2018. He then became the chief negotiator for the Taliban, resulting in the agreement (again with the Trump administration) to remove all US forces from Afghanistan by May 1, 2021.
There was no planning by the Trump administration to make this happen.
When he lost the election, President Trump lost interest in pretty much everything except getting it overturned and refused to coordinate any change-over support to the Biden administration, which he did not recognize.
President Biden was presented with a fait accompi regarding Afghanistan. The process was underway and in President Trump's own words, "They cannot stop it. ".
So the evacuation was going to happen. And it is happening. It was assumed that the Afghan forced could hold off the Taliban for six months. This turned out to be a very bad assumption indeed. The country folded in a matter of days, changing the entire dynamic of how the withdrawal would happen.
Now it seems that ISIS is also involved making things even more difficult. I truly believe that the forces on the ground are doing everything within their power to extract every one that they can. Some people cannot be located. Others have refused to leave. Some are being detain or have been arrested by the Taliban. So we will not get everyone out. Anyone who thinks we can is simply naive. But to say that President Biden has turned his back on them is simply disingenuous. It is not his best moment by any means, but he was put in a no-win position by President Trump who should share well over 50% of the blame.
DarkSideOfMe
08-27-21, 11:12
Official release from the White House.That fucken "Palace" should have been gone, and all in it! Fucker, wait until this weekend when USA men, Woman, left behind, and you see the pics of bodies, parts?
Show us your back as you walk away from us, Joe! One more time!
Sgt Lurker
08-27-21, 13:00
Do you really thing the Taliban or Isis would be acting this way if Trump was still president? They were not that stupid. We held them at bay with only 2,500 troops for a few years.
Its a little more complicated than you are making it.
The presumptive leader of Afghanistan is Mullah Baradar, who was imprisoned by Pakistan in 2010 and released as part of the deal then President Trump made with the Taliban in 2018. He then became the chief negotiator for the Taliban, resulting in the agreement (again with the Trump administration) to remove all US forces from Afghanistan by May 1, 2021.
There was no planning by the Trump administration to make this happen.
When he lost the election, President Trump lost interest in pretty much everything except getting it overturned and refused to coordinate any change-over support to the Biden administration, which he did not recognize.
President Biden was presented with a fait accompi regarding Afghanistan. The process was underway and in President Trump's own words, "They cannot stop it. ".
So the evacuation was going to happen. And it is happening. It was assumed that the Afghan forced could hold off the Taliban for six months. This turned out to be a very bad assumption indeed. The country folded in a matter of days, changing the entire dynamic of how the withdrawal would happen.
Now it seems that ISIS is also involved making things even more difficult. I truly believe that the forces on the ground are doing everything within their power to extract every one that they can. Some people cannot be located. Others have refused to leave. Some are being detain or have been arrested by the Taliban. So we will not get everyone out. Anyone who thinks we can is simply naive. But to say that President Biden has turned his back on them is simply disingenuous. It is not his best moment by any means, but he was put in a no-win position by President Trump who should share well over 50% of the blame.
Do you really thing the Taliban or Isis would be acting this way if Trump was still president? They were not that stupid. We held them at bay with only 2,500 troops for a few years.Yes, I do. It was President Trump who released 4000 cof their leaders from prison and it was President Trump who negotiated the "Peace" agreement with them, an agreement so bad that even under the current environment they have not violated. And it was President Trump who drew our forces down to 2,500, a number too small to stop anything. This would have occurred regardless of who was President now. When President Biden took office, President Trump gloated that "the process cannot be stopped." He was correct and he would not have been able to stop it either.
And it was President Trump who failed to plan for the eventual withdrawal that he created because he was too busy trying to overturn the election.
He just dumped the whole mess into President Biden's lap.
President Biden is not without fault either. His intel people either failed to recognize, or failed to inform him, or he failed to accept the fact that the Afghan army would capitulate in days rather than months and to thereby plan accordingly for the withdrawal.
It didn't help that President Trump's idea (which was never formalized as an OPLAN) never even considered removing Afghans who worked for us, which I find to be unconscionable.
If you truly believe that President Trump would have done thing s better just because he said so, I have just wasted a couple hundred words.
Along with the 15,000 Americans and 80,000 Afghan allies abandoned in Afghanistan, we are completely fucked.With four days to go, they have airlifted over 100,000 people out of Afghanistan.
Do tour numbers indicate that if you were in charge, you would have left over 5,000 of them (and counting at the rate of approximately 12,000/ day) behind?
President Biden is not without fault either. His intel people either failed to recognize, or failed to inform him, or he failed to accept the fact that the Afghan army would capitulate in days rather than months and to thereby plan accordingly for the withdrawal.
The part that bothers me is that the US knew years ago that Afghan soldiers only cared about collecting a paycheck, not giving a shit about the cause (paraphrasing Gen. Clark). Same thing with the NVA and VC in Vietnam, and we know what a cluster fuck that evacuation was. Why haven't we learned that agreements with the enemy never work? Really pisses me off that the US essentially has done the same thing again, fully knowing the circumstances beforehand. I blame leadership and, If I were the CINC (Biden), heads would roll. At least the forces we have on the ground are doing their best to get people out.
The part that bothers me is that the US knew years ago that Afghan soldiers only cared about collecting a paycheck, not giving a shit about the cause (paraphrasing Gen. Clark). Same thing with the NVA and VC in Vietnam, and we know what a cluster fuck that evacuation was. Why haven't we learned that agreements with the enemy never work? Really pisses me off that the US essentially has done the same thing again, fully knowing the circumstances beforehand. I blame leadership and, If I were the CINC (Biden), heads would roll. At least the forces we have on the ground are doing their best to get people out.You are referring to the ARVN, not thr NVA or VC, but I get your point. The US does indeed make this mistake over and over again. I blame it on the fact that we change administrations every 4-8 years, losing a lot of the people with knowledge in vital areas in the process, and that we jump into fires with all good intentions, but without a firm goal or exit strategy.
You are referring to the ARVN, not thr NVA or VC, but I get your point. The US does indeed make this mistake over and over again. I blame it on the fact that we change administrations every 4-8 years, losing a lot of the people with knowledge in vital areas in the process, and that we jump into fires with all good intentions, but without a firm goal or exit strategy.Correct on ARVN, their official name, but NVA is how most vets refer to them in my veterans groups. The CIA had separate agreements with the Viet Cong, another poor ROI. Those shitty agreements were the angst of my post, such that, so many decades later, we're still fucking it up on a world stage?
You have something else to put in your accomplishment column, the single deadliest day for our men and women in uniform in 10 years in Afghanistan! You spineless pu $$why!.No doubt about it, Biden and his underlings at the State Department / NSA totally botched up the withdrawal of US Troops from Afghanistan but it is inconceivable the Trump administration would have done any better. After-all, trump's administration was populated by a great many incompetents, and made a mess of every large-scale logistical challenge it confronted. If they couldn't deal with a hurricane in Puerto Rico, or distribute vaccine doses in an effective manner, how could the Trump White House have pulled off a withdrawal of our troops from Afghanistan.
Trump, in a written statement, April 18, 2020
I personally believe that the predictions that the Afghan forces will collapse right away, they are not right. We will help; we are helping them now. We will help them. This is our commitment. I personally believe that the statements that the forces will disintegrate, and the Talibs will take over in short order are mistaken. The real choices that the Afghans will face is between a long war and negotiated settlement.
Trump, at a political rally, June 26, 2020
Whatever happens in Afghanistan if there is a significant deterioration in security, that could well happen. Weve discussed this before. I dont think its going to be something that happens from a Friday to a Monday. So I wouldnt necessary equate the departure of our forces in July, August, or by early September with some kind of immediate deterioration in the situation.
The agreement that then-Secretary of State Mike Pompeo negotiated with the Taliban was substantially complete by February of 2020. If Trump and Pompeo thought that leaving Afghanistan would be easy, then they would have set things up to complete the withdrawal before the 2020 election, so Trump could run on that accomplishment. Instead, they pointedly set the withdrawal up to take place at a time about as far away from a presidential election, or a midterm, as is possible. They knew full well that a fiasco was likely.
I am not a Biden supporter and I definitely don't want anything to do with Trump. But I have to give both of them credits for the courage to leave Afghanistan. The mistake was made by George Bush, propagated by Obama and Trump. We should have gotten out after we killed Osama Bin Laden. I don't believe in occupying another country by nation building. We cannot force other countries to live, to think and to behave the way we want them. It is up to them and not us. How many deaths and refugees we have created around the world? Leadership is achieved by persuasion, sincerity and not by bombs. We failed there because we don't understand them. It is easy to bribe their leadership by planeloads of gold bars. We failed to find read Afghan leaders in 20 years. What we had were Olympic champions who broke world records to leave by breaking world records. We should go after these leaders that betrayed us and get back all our money! They are as bad as the terrorists there. We are the most powerful and best country. The best way is to win people heart, like providing vaccines to the world quickly! Domination does not work. There Are so much we can help the world. In fact, the whole world (including China, Russia, Iran and North Korea) is looking forward to good USA leadership. I pray for world peace and for all our soldiers that died last week. May God bless their families and USA.
Correct on ARVN, their official name, but NVA is how most vets refer to them in my veterans groups. The CIA had separate agreements with the Viet Cong, another poor ROI. Those shitty agreements were the angst of my post, such that, so many decades later, we're still fucking it up on a world stage?ARVH = Army of the Republic of Viet Nam (the "good" guys).
NVA = North Viet Namese Army (the "bad" guys).
VC = Viet Cong (also the "bad" guys but less formally organized then the NVA).
Sgt Lurker
08-29-21, 17:34
Truth is, we have successfully done nation building but it is no longer politically correct and no one has the stomach for it. We did in the Philippines, Japan, and Germany. But it requires complete take over of the government and slowly bringing them into the fold over the course of a generation or two. While we certainly stayed in Afghanistan half the time required, we did not use the same approach.
I am not a Biden supporter and I definitely don't want anything to do with Trump. But I have to give both of them credits for the courage to leave Afghanistan. The mistake was made by George Bush, propagated by Obama and Trump. We should have gotten out after we killed Osama Bin Laden. I don't believe in occupying another country by nation building. We cannot force other countries to live, to think and to behave the way we want them. It is up to them and not us. How many deaths and refugees we have created around the world? Leadership is achieved by persuasion, sincerity and not by bombs. We failed there because we don't understand them. It is easy to bribe their leadership by planeloads of gold bars. We failed to find read Afghan leaders in 20 years. What we had were Olympic champions who broke world records to leave by breaking world records. We should go after these leaders that betrayed us and get back all our money! They are as bad as the terrorists there. We are the most powerful and best country. The best way is to win people heart, like providing vaccines to the world quickly! Domination does not work. There Are so much we can help the world. In fact, the whole world (including China, Russia, Iran and North Korea) is looking forward to good USA leadership. I pray for world peace and for all our soldiers that died last week. May God bless their families and USA.
Aaron Hamlet
08-30-21, 10:04
Stolen elections have catastrophic consequences.
RedneckStud
08-30-21, 10:40
Stolen elections have catastrophic consequences.Good thing it wasn't stolen.
CrestWood87
08-30-21, 10:57
Stolen elections have catastrophic consequences.Biden is a fucking embarrassment. Multiple reports told by pilots unable to land outside of Afghanistan due to the United States pressuring those countries to deny them access to airfields. They are literally sending Americans back to Afghanistan to be murdered.
The democrats their voters, representations and their President have weakened and disgrace our country in the eyes of the world. The republicans are not muc better.
HobbyMan51
08-30-21, 13:43
Good thing it wasn't stolen.Maybe not, but enough of you dumb fucks voted for this criminally compromised sack of shit to make this unfolding tragedy possible. Wear it. Own it. You are just as responsible as he is.
Scientific fact: My dog gets more factual information sniffing another dog's ass than we get from you all.
Stolen elections have catastrophic consequences.
Biden is a fucking embarrassment. Multiple reports told by pilots unable to land outside of Afghanistan due to the United States pressuring those countries to deny them access to airfields. They are literally sending Americans back to Afghanistan to be murdered.
The democrats their voters, representations and their President have weakened and disgrace our country in the eyes of the world. The republicans are not muc better.
Maybe not, but enough of you dumb fucks voted for this criminally compromised sack of shit to make this unfolding tragedy possible. Wear it. Own it. You are just as responsible as he is.
Aaron Hamlet
08-31-21, 15:56
'Sundowning isn't a disease, but a group of symptoms that occur at a specific time of the day that may affect people with dementia.
The term "sundowning" refers to a state of confusion occurring in the late afternoon and spanning into the night. Sundowning can cause a variety of behaviors, such as confusion, anxiety, aggression or ignoring directions. Sundowning can also lead to pacing or wandering. '.
'JUST IN - Biden says "My fellow Americans, the war in Afghanistan is now over." Trump's spokesperson responds "Biden didn't end the war, he lost the war"'
'Biden was a U.S. senator, vice president, or president for 16 of the 20 years of the war in Afghanistan. He voted for it, funded it, re-authorized it, and prosecuted it for 16 years.
No politician on earth is more responsible for the failed mission in Afghanistan than Joe Biden.'
The term "sundowning" refers to a state of confusion occurring in the late afternoon and spanning into the night.
I couldn't help but notice that you posted this at 3:56 p.m.
No politician on earth is more responsible for the failed mission in Afghanistan than Joe Biden.I couldn't help but notice that you posted this at 3:56 pm.
You are welcome to your opinion, but the name Donald J. Trump keeps appearing, just like it does in that pesky election, no matter how hard he tries to revise history.
Aaron Hamlet
08-31-21, 20:22
I couldn't help but notice that you posted this at 3:56 pm.
You are welcome to your opinion, but the name Donald J. Trump keeps appearing, just like it does in that pesky election, no matter how hard he tries to revise history.IDK what that means. Seriously, you're what 1 year younger than Biden, maybe 2? He prob seems sharp as a tack to you, full of energy. Well he's not and neither are you.
You've called me a liar among other things. When I asked you how I lied you responded with.
You are either simply ignorant (intentionally or not and / or stupid (again, either intentionally or not), but you are certainly arrogant and dangerous, whether to yourself, those around you, or the general population at large.
And that IS intentional on your part.
I can no longer be bothered to even read your posts. Good luck with your health; you are going to need it.Suck my dick, old man. Do what you said and no longer be bothered to read my posts.
*Joe Biden's death spiral continues. Where is his floor? At this point does he have a floor?
Reuters: ..."Things are not going well in terms of the fight against the Taliban," President Biden told Afghanistan President Ghani during a July phone call.
Biden continued...
"And there is a need, WHETHER IT IS True OR NOT, there is a need to project a different picture."
RondaColdSon
08-31-21, 21:51
'Sundowning isn't a disease, but a group of symptoms that occur at a specific time of the day that may affect people with dementia.
The term "sundowning" refers to a state of confusion occurring in the late afternoon and spanning into the night. Sundowning can cause a variety of behaviors, such as confusion, anxiety, aggression or ignoring directions. Sundowning can also lead to pacing or wandering. '.
'JUST IN - Biden says "My fellow Americans, the war in Afghanistan is now over." Trump's spokesperson responds "Biden didn't end the war, he lost the war"'
'Biden was a U.S. senator, vice president, or president for 16 of the 20 years of the war in Afghanistan. He voted for it, funded it, re-authorized it, and prosecuted it for 16 years.
No politician on earth is more responsible for the failed mission in Afghanistan than Joe Biden.'Correct me if I'm wrong, but weren't Republicans in control of the Senate from 2014-2021*? I'm confused at how this is all Joe Biden's fault as a Democrat.
Aaron Hamlet
08-31-21, 22:16
Correct me if I'm wrong, but weren't Republicans in control of the Senate from 2014-2021*? I'm confused at how this is all Joe Biden's fault as a Democrat.And I'm confused as to how you came up with, 'this is all Joe Biden's fault as a democrat,' from what I posted. You lack cognitive skills and are low information. Please don't show up on my feed again.
The term "sundowning" refers to a state of confusion occurring in the late afternoon and spanning into the night. Sundowning can cause a variety of behaviors, such as confusion, anxiety, aggression or ignoring directions.'I noted that you posted this at 3:56, but it was obviously too subtle for you, so I will explain. Your post describes a condition which occurs in the LATE AFTERNOON and causes confusion, anxiety, aggression or ignoring directions.
You posted it in the LATE AFTERNOON. And frankly, based on yor continual confusion, anxiety, and aggression, you show all the symptoms of it.
The only thing you have to use against me is my age, which you never get quite right, but are close. I am considerably younger than President Biden. And if my advanced age is somehow a sign of a failing mind, please be cognizant of the fact that I am also younger than your hero, President Trump.
I noted that you posted this at 3:56, but it was obviously too subtle for you, so I will explain. Your post describes a condition which occurs in the LATE AFTERNOON and causes confusion, anxiety, aggression or ignoring directions.
You posted it in the LATE AFTERNOON. And frankly, based on yor continual confusion, anxiety, and aggression, you show all the symptoms of it.
The only thing you have to use against me is my age, which you never get quite right, but are close. I am considerably younger than President Biden. And if my advanced age is somehow a sign of a failing mind, please be cognizant of the fact that I am also younger than your hero, President Trump.You really don't have to explain shit to these dumb fat ass tRump voters. They are dumber than dog shit. Let them fume at the trailer park as we go on with our lives enjoying the freedom and comfort that a post high school education provides. GO UNCLE JOE!
Maybe not, but enough of you dumb fucks voted for this criminally compromised sack of shit to make this unfolding tragedy possible. Wear it. Own it. You are just as responsible as he is.And would vote for him again. Your comments make me laugh so damn hard.
'Sundowning isn't a disease, but a group of symptoms that occur at a specific time of the day that may affect people with dementia.
The term "sundowning" refers to a state of confusion occurring in the late afternoon and spanning into the night. Sundowning can cause a variety of behaviors, such as confusion, anxiety, aggression or ignoring directions. Sundowning can also lead to pacing or wandering. '.
'JUST IN - Biden says "My fellow Americans, the war in Afghanistan is now over." Trump's spokesperson responds "Biden didn't end the war, he lost the war"'
'Biden was a U.S. senator, vice president, or president for 16 of the 20 years of the war in Afghanistan. He voted for it, funded it, re-authorized it, and prosecuted it for 16 years.
No politician on earth is more responsible for the failed mission in Afghanistan than Joe Biden.'Not a Biden fan, so all you have to do is wait for Biden to fall asleep in cabinet meetings, then wait for the press to leech on it as they did with Reagan.
Reagan has a nice building named after him in DC; Biden won't. Sleep on that for a moment and smile when you wake up.
HobbyMan51
09-01-21, 22:27
And would vote for him again. Your comments make me laugh so damn hard.You just keep on laughing 'til your ass falls off. We'll see how much you laugh when you finally understand what this decrepit asshole and the monsters you helped elect have done and are doing to this country. If you ever do understand. Or maybe you are just another anarchist like Little Georgie Soros in which case you know what you can do to yourself. By the way, you won't get to vote for him again. I hope that you can at least understand that but I doubt it. You are being willfully blind and there is no cure for your special brand of stupidity.
Aaron Hamlet
09-02-21, 08:34
I am considerably younger than President Biden. And if my advanced age is somehow a sign of a failing mind, please be cognizant of the fact that I am also younger than your hero, President Trump.21 months ago you were 74. You're now 76 or will be in a month or two. Biden's 78, Trumps 75.
Wow. I just wrote a rather lengthy response, but I think the site has dumped it. The short answer is that I am 74, having survived prostate cancer and a series of strokes.
Please take your stupidity, your distortions and your lies and shove them up your demented ass.
You just keep on laughing 'til your ass falls off. We'll see how much you laugh when you finally understand what this decrepit asshole and the monsters you helped elect have done and are doing to this country. If you ever do understand. Or maybe you are just another anarchist like Little Georgie Soros in which case you know what you can do to yourself. By the way, you won't get to vote for him again. I hope that you can at least understand that but I doubt it. You are being willfully blind and there is no cure for your special brand of stupidity.
21 months ago you were 74. You're now 76 or will be in a month or two. Biden's 78, Trumps 75.Glad to know that you are keeping such a sharp eye on my age. You really don't have better things to do with your time?
When I said 74, I rounded up as I didn't think anyone here really wanted to know my age to the exact month. I guess I was wrong. Add that to the fact that 21 months does not equal two years and you come up with the fact that I really am younger than President Trump, albeit not by much.
I recognize that at your age, the fractions are important as they make up a significant part of your time here on earth ("I'm not 6; I'm 6 1/2! But that will fade as you age, and in your case, hopefully mature.
Please take your stupidity, your distortions and your lies and shove them up your demented ass.Nitesukr and Slobbyman LOVE things up their demented asses.
Nitesukr and Slobbyman LOVE things up their demented asses.Still upset because are. Kelly boned your ass at the pedophile convention and then threw you out? You were shamed and should do something about it immediately! Ass Kegels, perhaps?
https://www.reddit.com/r/SexWorkersOnly/
We can use this to gauge how women are feeling about the economy.
Aaron Hamlet
09-04-21, 14:13
Stolen elections have catastrophic consequences like the greatest loss of military equipment by one power in the history of warfare. From the NY Times.
Stolen elections have catastrophic consequences like the greatest loss of military equipment by one power in the history of warfare. From the NY Times.Why didn't the US booby trap everything they couldn't take back home?
Peter Johnson
09-04-21, 18:11
Stolen elections have catastrophic consequences like the greatest loss of military equipment by one power in the history of warfare. From the NY Times.Yes we know that Trump stole the election from Hillary and made the deal to pull out of Afghanistan. Still, Biden could have stepped in and canceled it..he didn't have to pull out.
Peter Johnson
09-04-21, 18:13
https://www.reddit.com/r/SexWorkersOnly/
We can use this to gauge how women are feeling about the economy.That sub reeks of feminist entitlement and misandry so much, that I can only stomach a few minutes.
Yes we know that Trump stole the election from Hillary and made the deal to pull out of Afghanistan. Still, Biden could have stepped in and canceled it..he didn't have to pull out.
The U.S. has spent over $2.3 Trillion over 20 years or $300 million per DAY over the past 20 years trying to nation build in Afghanistan and it has not worked. Most of this money has ended up in the pockets of corrupt Afghani leaders, politicians and the US Military Industrial complex. In the process we have lost 2,500 U.S men and women. It's time for Afghani’s to fight to determine their own political future.
Frosty Man
09-04-21, 19:52
Why didn't the US booby trap everything they couldn't take back home?The false narrative that we gave the Taliban $80 B in military equipment is just that — false. The Republicans, to undercut Biden, are dishonestly calculating the entire cost of gear over 20 years — even that much of that had already been decommissioned, broken down in use, been shipped out or been shot up in action.
The US blew up a lot of the gear before departure. Some of the remaining gear could be disabled by disabling the software. The rest is only good until it needs spare parts and the engineers and mechanics who know how to maintain it.
I Luv Emall
09-05-21, 11:15
The ignorance below is astounding. You're the one arguring the facts as stated in the source. And don't even try to get on your self-righteous high horse with me, and play your bullshit selfishness card, because it's not going to work. These vaccines do nothing to stop the spread, and this administration has been forced to admit that the vaccinated carry titres as high or higher than the unvaccinated.
This dumbass administration is responsible for spreading Covid around the country by telling their lies and letting people believe their fake vaccines were providing any kind of immunity, knowing full well the whole time that was pure bullshit. Rather than tell the truth, they chose to lie in order to push the vaccines, telling people if they got the vaccines, their lives could return to normal- go back to large crowds, no masking, etc. Even now, after knowing how suscepitble the vaccinated are to the Delta variant, they continue to discriminate against the unvaccinated saying that if you're vaccinated, you don't need to get tested or isolate after known exposure to Covid, but if you're unvaccinated you do. Total stupidity! So stop with your selfishness bullshit, because none of this has been about protecting others or following the science, it's been about an agenda, and a terribly misguided one. Here's a good example of how effective your vaccines are, with Cornell's Covid cases 5 times higher than a year ago, despite it's 95% vaccination rate:
https://www.thecollegefix.com/despite-95-vaccination-rate-cornell-today-has-five-times-more-covid-cases-than-it-did-this-time-last-year/
America's bright young students are starting to wake up to the farce and the lies, and question this joke of an administration, which is now at its lowest approval rating ever, and not just over Afghanistan.
Your total ignorance on Ivermectin is also on display. Ivermectin has been used on humans for decades you ignorant fool, is in fact a Nobel prize-winning drug with multiple known and proven healthcare benefits for humans, and is used for Covid in more than 50 countries worldwide currently. You lack any kind of critical thinking skills, and can only mindlessly parrot what your dumbass administration tells you.
Every credible source I can find indicates a mortality rate for non-elderly adults like 100 times higher than your claimed serious illness rate. The facts are the facts. One you start cherrypicking only the sources that most align with your views, while taking them out of context in ways that might be misunderstanding what they are talking about, you aren't dealing with facts anymore. Of which speaking of the facts are that there are no known serious short or long term consequences for the vaccine despite 100's of millions of shots given out, but direct demonstrable short and long term effects for the disease proper, the latter of which gets more dire with each passing day.
Do you have the actual math you used to derive your numbers? Because frankly I don't think its possible for it to have been derived from the data there. You need more than just serious illness rates by age and vaccination, you are also need to know the population by age and vaccination rates by age as well, probably also the overall case rate by age as well. Its also fundamentally an exercise in futile because Israel's cases are spiking dramatically (new cases per 100 k doubled in the last 10 days) and there will be an inherent and uncertain time delay between when cases happen and when serious illness, hospitalization, and death happen due to those cases.
Meanwhile I see you are continuing to play the 100% selfishness card and be completely indifferent to how being unvaccinated makes more likely to spread it to more vulnerable people. Its pathetic how far the USA has fallen, from the days in which people willingly volunteered to fight in WWII despite the major risks to life and limb it imposed, to people unwilling to accept the safest most effective and natural form of healthcare possible even if only to ensure their grandpa doesn't die a painful death as they gargle on fluid filled lungs. I bet that these same people don't have the slightest concern about medication or surgery that are far less safe. There are literally people taking cow dewormers, a product with no known healthcare benefits Covid-19 or otherwise and untested on humans, rather than just take the friggin vaccine. Its madness.
CrestWood87
09-05-21, 14:46
If you still support Biden the following applies and nothing else needs to be said.
Aaron Hamlet
09-05-21, 15:34
The false narrative that we gave the Taliban $80 B in military equipment is just that false. The Republicans, to undercut Biden, are dishonestly calculating the entire cost of gear over 20 years even that much of that had already been decommissioned, broken down in use, been shipped out or been shot up in action.
The US blew up a lot of the gear before departure. Some of the remaining gear could be disabled by disabling the software. The rest is only good until it needs spare parts and the engineers and mechanics who know how to maintain it.The graphic I posted was from the NY Times. IDK how they arrived at the numbers, but to claim the New York Times is pushing republican talking points to undercut Biden is foolish at best.
PRC already in country. They'll maintain what needs to be maintained.
The United States Military does not lose Wars.
Our scumbag politicians send our Brave young Warriors into battle, with rules, lawyers and pseudo moralistic restraints to defeat enemies who no rules. In Afghanistan we faced the Great Muslim Hordes on the modern battlefield. What we proved to our enemies is our politicians would sell out their mothers for a buck.
Why didn't the US booby trap everything they couldn't take back home?Clearly because they didn't have your keen military mind. It's amusing to watch all the armchair dipshit generals on a hooker board. You're a fucking moron.
Clearly because they didn't have your keen military mind. It's amusing to watch all the armchair dipshit generals on a hooker board. You're a fucking moron.Either take the vise grips off your dick and post something of value or fuck off.
CrestWood87
09-05-21, 19:05
Why didn't the US booby trap everything they couldn't take back home?The Biden administration deliberately did not destroy the military equipment left behind. Remember it was Biden who said it was the Taliban who was protecting us from isis as we left the airport. There are multiple videos of the Taliban using our Blackhawk helicopters to hang people from. The Biden administration also gave them lists so they were able to go door to door and hunt and execute people who worked for the United States. Even as I write this there are at least two planes in Afghanistan full of refugees and American citizens that the Taliban is refusing to allow to take off. Pudding brain disrespected our fallen soldiers. He is scum and anyone who still supports him is scum to.
The graphic I posted was from the NY Times. IDK how they arrived at the numbers, but to claim the New York Times is pushing republican talking points to undercut Biden is foolish at best.
PRC already in country. They'll maintain what needs to be maintained.Its going to be interesting. The Taliban took over the airport and were dismayed to find the approach radar had been destroyed. Its not a matter of fixing it. It will have to be replaced.
As to the other equipment, no-one knows for sure how much of it is either operable or fixable. My guess is most of it is not. If we had the time / desire to eliminate the airport radar, my guess would be that we also did so for any other remaining major weapons. The Chinese will come in and fix what they can, which I suspect is very little. If they really want something badly, they will have to develop software or manufacture parts to do so, which will take some time.
Any loss is bad, but in my opinion our losses will not have a big impact.
Member #6422
09-05-21, 19:13
How do you know this? Not saying it's not true just curious how you know or what the source of this info is.
The Biden administration also gave them lists so they were able to go door to door and hunt and execute people who worked for the United States.
Why didn't the US booby trap everything they couldn't take back home?Booby trapping is counter to the Geneva Convention, to which we adhere, except for a few isolated incidents, which result in courts martial.
CrestWood87
09-05-21, 19:26
How do you know this? Not saying it's not true just curious how you know or what the source of this info is.This information was verified through multiple sources including CNN.
Booby trapping is counter to the Geneva Convention, to which we adhere, except for a few isolated incidents, which result in courts martial.When was the last time we faced an enemy that adhered to the Geneva Convention? Look what our Politicians did to LtCol Alan West. I am sure there are many case where Brave American Fighting Men have fallen victim to our own stupid rule so a couple Jags could screw over some GI.
I Luv Emall
09-05-21, 21:38
Biden administration continues to be consistent with their BS, and more and more people are saying enough. Soon Sleepy Joe will run this entire ship aground, and his own party will be calling for his head. Meanwhile, Kamala continues to be in absentia so she can wash her hands of the debacle and claim innocence, although somehow I don't think that's going to fly, and everyone knows it.
https://www.businessinsider.com/2-top-fda-officials-resigned-biden-booster-plan-reports-2021-9
Sgt Lurker
09-05-21, 21:46
Not Booby Trap but thermo grenades to utterly destroy them is what should have happened.
Booby trapping is counter to the Geneva Convention, to which we adhere, except for a few isolated incidents, which result in courts martial.
Sgt Lurker
09-05-21, 21:49
But some of why'all are so far up his rectum you still won't get it. The man has been caught in a bald face lie.
https://nypost.com/2021/09/01/joe-bidens-call-to-afghan-president-is-impeachable-devine/
Aaron Hamlet
09-05-21, 22:54
FDA officials resigning over COVID politicization Bad headline. The top two FDA officials in charge of vaccine research and review are resigning in protest of Biden admin politicizing the FDA and not following the science. If same happened under Orangeman, he'd be impeached, faggot newscasters on TV would be 'weeping for our democracy,' 'experts' would be warning to stay away from Trump vaccine and this would dominate the news cycle.
Listen to what the simulation directs you to do. Go get your third experimental non-vaccine vaccine shots and boosters you stupid fucking sheeple. Don't think for yourselves. Don't do your own research. Don't pay any attention to the two top doctors at FDA with a combined 65 years of experience in vaccine research and review who resigned in protest.
Either take the vise grips off your dick and post something of value or fuck off.Says the rubber emptier behind the gay bar. I'm just following your shining example of 12,000+ postings. I really need to follow your example and become and alcoholic; then post stupid shit I have to apologize for the next day. LOL.
you really are a pathetic turd. But mildly amusing. Fuck off now.
Bad headline. The top two FDA officials in charge of vaccine research and review are resigning in protest of Biden admin politicizing the FDA and not following the science. If same happened under Orangeman, he'd be impeached, faggot newscasters on TV would be 'weeping for our democracy,' 'experts' would be warning to stay away from Trump vaccine and this would dominate the news cycle.
Listen to what the simulation directs you to do. Go get your third experimental non-vaccine vaccine shots and boosters you stupid fucking sheeple. Don't think for yourselves. Don't do your own research. Don't pay any attention to the two top doctors at FDA with a combined 65 years of experience in vaccine research and review who resigned in protest.Would you care to comment about the GROSS politicization of the CDC and FDA under t-Rump?
The ignorance below is astounding. You're the one arguring the facts as stated in the source. And don't even try to get on your self-righteous high horse with me, and play your bullshit selfishness card, because it's not going to work. These vaccines do nothing to stop the spread, and this administration has been forced to admit that the vaccinated carry titres as high or higher than the unvaccinated.
This dumbass administration is responsible for spreading Covid around the country by telling their lies and letting people believe their fake vaccines were providing any kind of immunity, knowing full well the whole time that was pure bullshit. Rather than tell the truth, they chose to lie in order to push the vaccines, telling people if they got the vaccines, their lives could return to normal- go back to large crowds, no masking, etc. Even now, after knowing how suscepitble the vaccinated are to the Delta variant, they continue to discriminate against the unvaccinated saying that if you're vaccinated, you don't need to get tested or isolate after known exposure to Covid, but if you're unvaccinated you do. Total stupidity! So stop with your selfishness bullshit, because none of this has been about protecting others or following the science, it's been about an agenda, and a terribly misguided one. Here's a good example of how effective your vaccines are, with Cornell's Covid cases 5 times higher than a year ago, despite it's 95% vaccination rate:
https://www.thecollegefix.com/despite-95-vaccination-rate-cornell-today-has-five-times-more-covid-cases-than-it-did-this-time-last-year/
America's bright young students are starting to wake up to the farce and the lies, and question this joke of an administration, which is now at its lowest approval rating ever, and not just over Afghanistan.
Your total ignorance on Ivermectin is also on display. Ivermectin has been used on humans for decades you ignorant fool, is in fact a Nobel prize-winning drug with multiple known and proven healthcare benefits for humans, and is used for Covid in more than 50 countries worldwide currently. You lack any kind of critical thinking skills, and can only mindlessly parrot what your dumbass administration tells you.So the response to the cherrypicked source of Israel failing to cater to one's claims is to. Not address it, not acknowledge it, then shift to an even more cherrypicked source of literally some college campus. This is literally just Gibraltar all over again. Which speaking of Gibraltar recorded over a 1,000 new cases in the 2021 summer wave but just 3 deaths. Almost like the vaccines worked or something. Has Cornell had anyone die? Has Cornell had anyone vaccinated die?
If you want actual comprehensive data, from July 12th through August 12th we've had 1,374 fully vaccinated Americans die
https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/covid-19/health-departments/breakthrough-cases.html
but 29,520 unvaccinated Americans have.
https://ig.ft.com/coronavirus-chart/?areas=usa&areasRegional=usfl&areasRegional=ustn&areasRegional=ussc&areasRegional=usga&areasRegional=uswy&areasRegional=usal&cumulative=1&logScale=0&per100K=0&startDate=2021-06-01&values=deaths
Vaccinated in the USA account for less than 5% of fatalities despite being over 50%+ of the population. But you don't acknowledge that, or for that matter the opinion of every national government, the consensus of the scientific community, countless studies, etc etc. You will literally accept only sources that provide the data that aligns with your views, then drop them the second they don't, like you did the Israel figures.
Ivermectin is used in humans for exactly the same reasons its used in animals, to treat infections caused by parasites like tapeworms. It is not approved for use against Covid-19, and the study investigating the possibility got thrown out for serious issues.
https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-02081-w
This has led people to grab Ivermectin intended for animals with dosage levels for animals significantly larger than people... something that is dangerous to do even for 100% working and pertinent medication, and has led to hospitals being overwhelmed with people who've poisoned themselves with it.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/sep/04/oklahoma-doctor-ivermectin-covid-coronavirus
Developing nations have resorted to unproven treatments like Ivermectin because they lack access to the life-saving vaccines that anti-vaxxers in developed nations refuse when available freely until it rots on the shelves, so they're trying anything with even a chance of possibly helping.
There is no logic to reject a scientist and doctor approved medical treatment with no serious side effects over one that is not approved by them and has sent many folks to the hospital, other than a pathological rejection of establishment authorities and experts in favor of anti-establishment grifters and their enablers.
I Luv Emall
09-06-21, 10:33
I didn't cherry pick anything and I didn't drop anything- you did because you didn't like the numbers. Pretty much all the data from the Israel and the UK contradicts the data coming from the lying mouthpieces here. You don't like the numbers there? That's your problem, you contest it with them. They're well laid out and self-explanatory, and even a mindless idiot like you should be able to do the calculations from the information given. I'm not going to do all your homework for you.
It's clear the vaccines have fogged your brain, because I've never contested the symptomatic effectiveness of the vaccines (and even stated so in my original post), even though that's what your whole diatribe below is about. Sympomatic effectiveness is not the bill of goods / lies that these vaccines have been sold on, and not the basis on which they're trying to get their mandates in place. There is no possible justification for forced vaccination for employment on that basis, and they know it, so they lie about it and say it's about the spread of the disease. That's a non-starter, and all the data shows that.
My post was about using risk-assessment and common sense to make decisions about vaccinations instead of a one-size-fits-all approach that only mindless idiots like this administration and its minions incapable of their own thoughts would advocate. Real Scientists would be breaking these groups down into those with high-risk conditions and obesity, which are clearly skewing the stats, instead of trying to push this on 12-year olds. And regarding those stats by the way, maybe there wouldn't be nearly so many deaths if suppression of education and other useful medications weren't being so heavily censored by this administration in order to push their vaccines down everyones throats. How many lives do you think that has cost? Yes, they are accountable for that. Trump was no spring chicken, and he was up and about within a few days of being hospitalized. Why aren't those kind of treatments, along with Ivermectin, being more heavily used and talked about? It's clear why, unless you just don't want to see. Oh yeah, just to be fair, let's not leave out the 7200 reported deaths from the vaccines from the VAERS reports. I'm sure you'll dispute those, but if you want to go down that path, there are plenty who will claim those reports only represent 1-10% of the actual number.
Once again, regarding Ivermectin, your ignorance is on display. You cite one study that has been called into question, but there have been dozens of studies done on Ivermectin showing conclusive results, including this study done in Israel:
https://www.jpost.com/health-science/israeli-scientist-says-covid-19-could-be-treated-for-under-1day-675612
Funny you should mention grifters. You will note his comments on the conflict of interest that no one is going to make money off ivermectin as a successful treatment for COVID. It should also be noted that NIH is a patent holder on the Moderna vaccine, so has an obvious conflict of interest as well. The grifters are the ones pushing the vaccines and the boosters on kids and otherwise perfectly healthy people with statistically near-zero risk from Covid.
About the dosage levels, you once again speak from a position of ignorance. The recommended dosage level for livestock and humans is exactly the same at 0.2 mg / kg. You are again mindlessly parroting what you're told to believe, instead of thinking for yourself. You want to know why people are turning to these kind of solutions? Because they've been lied to so many times, and they know it, and this administration has lost the trust of the people. That's why. They've been told they're too stupid to think for themselves, and they're not allowed to have informative, educational discussion, and that the administration will decide what they're allowed to see and hear, and what's good for you, and you will accept it and like it. Well guess what, they don't like it, and they're not accepting it, and it's showing up in the approval ratings.
So the response to the cherrypicked source of Israel failing to cater to one's claims is to. Not address it, not acknowledge it, then shift to an even more cherrypicked source of literally some college campus. This is literally just Gibraltar all over again. Which speaking of Gibraltar recorded over a 1,000 new cases in the 2021 summer wave but just 3 deaths. Almost like the vaccines worked or something. Has Cornell had anyone die? Has Cornell had anyone vaccinated die?
If you want actual comprehensive data, from July 12th through August 12th we've had 1,374 fully vaccinated Americans die
https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/covid-19/health-departments/breakthrough-cases.html
but 29,520 unvaccinated Americans have.
https://ig.ft.com/coronavirus-chart/?areas=usa&areasRegional=usfl&areasRegional=ustn&areasRegional=ussc&areasRegional=usga&areasRegional=uswy&areasRegional=usal&cumulative=1&logScale=0&per100K=0&startDate=2021-06-01&values=deaths
Vaccinated in the USA account for less than 5% of fatalities despite being over 50%+ of the population. But you don't acknowledge that, or for that matter the opinion of every national government, the consensus of the scientific community, countless studies, etc etc. You will literally accept only sources that provide the data that aligns with your views, then drop them the second they don't, like you did the Israel figures.
Ivermectin is used in humans for exactly the same reasons its used in animals, to treat infections caused by parasites like tapeworms. It is not approved for use against Covid-19, and the study investigating the possibility got thrown out for serious issues.
https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-02081-w
This has led people to grab Ivermectin intended for animals with dosage levels for animals significantly larger than people... something that is dangerous to do even for 100% working and pertinent medication, and has led to hospitals being overwhelmed with people who've poisoned themselves with it.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/sep/04/oklahoma-doctor-ivermectin-covid-coronavirus
Developing nations have resorted to unproven treatments like Ivermectin because they lack access to the life-saving vaccines that anti-vaxxers in developed nations refuse when available freely until it rots on the shelves, so they're trying anything with even a chance of possibly helping.
There is no logic to reject a scientist and doctor approved medical treatment with no serious side effects over one that is not approved by them and has sent many folks to the hospital, other than a pathological rejection of establishment authorities and experts in favor of anti-establishment grifters and their enablers.
When was the last time we faced an enemy that adhered to the Geneva Convention?That is not the point, is it? The fact that we are signatories gives us the responsibility to adhere to it. In DESERT STORM, especially when over downtown Baghdad, you did not drop your bombs unless you were 100% sure of the target and that the pathway to the target was free of clouds so that the bomb would guide properly. You did not just drop anywhere, even though you were under constant and heavy AAA fire.
I Luv Emall
09-06-21, 14:13
Rags like the Guardian and Rolling Stone print bullshit fed to them from this administration to propogate the lies, and fools like you lap it up without question. Meanwhile, they're forced to print a retraction, which no one will ever hear about:
https://www.theepochtimes.com/rolling-stone-issues-update-after-covid-ivermectin-article-disputed-by-oklahoma-hospital_3982459.html
The article explains the source of your information is a fraudster who hasn't even worked at the hospital in months, and goes on to quote "Scott Schaeffer, managing director of the Oklahoma Center for Poison and Drug Information, told the Daily News that "since the beginning of May, we've received reports of 11 people being exposed to ivermectin," suggesting that there is no influx of ivermectin overdoses in state hospitals. Schaeffer noted that most had "relatively minor symptoms such as nausea, vomiting, diarrhea, and dizziness".
That sounds a far cry from your quoted sensationalistic headline of "Oklahoma hospitals deluged by ivermectin overdoses, doctor says". What shabby, sloppy, irresponsible reporting. Oh, but it's ok because it's all in the name of promoting the vaccines at all costs.
What's pathologic is your acceptance of any bullshit that's fed to you on a blue platter, and you lapping it up like it's steak. Ivermectin is far more proven and time-tested than these experimental vaccines ever thought about being at this stage, and your failure to admit this is the stunning lack of logic. According to VAERS, there have been far more people sent to the hospital and the grave from these vaccines than Ivermectin ever thought about, incorrect dosing notwithstanding. Here's an Austalian Senator that gets it:
https://rumble.com/vm4rva-australian-senator-malcolm-roberts-on-ivermectin-suppression-they-have-bloo.html
This has led people to grab Ivermectin intended for animals with dosage levels for animals significantly larger than people... something that is dangerous to do even for 100% working and pertinent medication, and has led to hospitals being overwhelmed with people who've poisoned themselves with it.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/sep/04/oklahoma-doctor-ivermectin-covid-coronavirus
Developing nations have resorted to unproven treatments like Ivermectin because they lack access to the life-saving vaccines that anti-vaxxers in developed nations refuse when available freely until it rots on the shelves, so they're trying anything with even a chance of possibly helping.
There is no logic to reject a scientist and doctor approved medical treatment with no serious side effects over one that is not approved by them and has sent many folks to the hospital, other than a pathological rejection of establishment authorities and experts in favor of anti-establishment grifters and their enablers.
Frosty Man
09-06-21, 15:54
But some of why'all are so far up his rectum you still won't get it. The man has been caught in a bald face lie.
https://nypost.com/2021/09/01/joe-bidens-call-to-afghan-president-is-impeachable-devine/The NY Post is the opposite of liberal. It's owned by Rupert Murdoch and has a history of conservative spin and even sensationalism.
The NY Daily News is liberal.
The mental distortion required to reject a COVID vaccine intended for humans, that has been tested and proven to be effective at preventing serious illness from COVID, to then accepting a medication intended as a de-wormer for horses that has NOT been medically or scientifically proven to be effective against COVID is utterly astounding. This is next level stupid!
Rags like the Guardian and Rolling Stone print bullshit fed to them from this administration to propogate the lies, and fools like you lap it up without question. Meanwhile, they're forced to print a retraction, which no one will ever hear about:
https://www.theepochtimes.com/rolling-stone-issues-update-after-covid-ivermectin-article-disputed-by-oklahoma-hospital_3982459.html
The article explains the source of your information is a fraudster who hasn't even worked at the hospital in months, and goes on to quote "Scott Schaeffer, managing director of the Oklahoma Center for Poison and Drug Information, told the Daily News that "since the beginning of May, we've received reports of 11 people being exposed to ivermectin," suggesting that there is no influx of ivermectin overdoses in state hospitals. Schaeffer noted that most had "relatively minor symptoms such as nausea, vomiting, diarrhea, and dizziness".
That sounds a far cry from your quoted sensationalistic headline of "Oklahoma hospitals deluged by ivermectin overdoses, doctor says". What shabby, sloppy, irresponsible reporting. Oh, but it's ok because it's all in the name of promoting the vaccines at all costs.
What's pathologic is your acceptance of any bullshit that's fed to you on a blue platter, and you lapping it up like it's steak. Ivermectin is far more proven and time-tested than these experimental vaccines ever thought about being at this stage, and your failure to admit this is the stunning lack of logic. According to VAERS, there have been far more people sent to the hospital and the grave from these vaccines than Ivermectin ever thought about, incorrect dosing notwithstanding. Here's an Austalian Senator that gets it:
https://rumble.com/vm4rva-australian-senator-malcolm-roberts-on-ivermectin-suppression-they-have-bloo.html
I didn't cherry pick anything and I didn't drop anything- you did because you didn't like the numbers. Pretty much all the data from the Israel and the UK contradicts the data coming from the lying mouthpieces here. You don't like the numbers there? That's your problem, you contest it with them. They're well laid out and self-explanatory, and even a mindless idiot like you should be able to do the calculations from the information given. I'm not going to do all your homework for you.
It's clear the vaccines have fogged your brain, because I've never contested the symptomatic effectiveness of the vaccines (and even stated so in my original post), even though that's what your whole diatribe below is about. Sympomatic effectiveness is not the bill of goods / lies that these vaccines have been sold on, and not the basis on which they're trying to get their mandates in place. There is no possible justification for forced vaccination for employment on that basis, and they know it, so they lie about it and say it's about the spread of the disease. That's a non-starter, and all the data shows that.
My post was about using risk-assessment and common sense to make decisions about vaccinations instead of a one-size-fits-all approach that only mindless idiots like this administration and its minions incapable of their own thoughts would advocate. Real Scientists would be breaking these groups down into those with high-risk conditions and obesity, which are clearly skewing the stats, instead of trying to push this on 12-year olds. And regarding those stats by the way, maybe there wouldn't be nearly so many deaths if suppression of education and other useful medications weren't being so heavily censored by this administration in order to push their vaccines down everyones throats. How many lives do you think that has cost? Yes, they are accountable for that. Trump was no spring chicken, and he was up and about within a few days of being hospitalized. Why aren't those kind of treatments, along with Ivermectin, being more heavily used and talked about? It's clear why, unless you just don't want to see. Oh yeah, just to be fair, let's not leave out the 7200 reported deaths from the vaccines from the VAERS reports. I'm sure you'll dispute those, but if you want to go down that path, there are plenty who will claim those reports only represent 1-10% of the actual number.
Once again, regarding Ivermectin, your ignorance is on display. You cite one study that has been called into question, but there have been dozens of studies done on Ivermectin showing conclusive results, including this study done in Israel:
https://www.jpost.com/health-science/israeli-scientist-says-covid-19-could-be-treated-for-under-1day-675612
Funny you should mention grifters. You will note his comments on the conflict of interest that no one is going to make money off ivermectin as a successful treatment for COVID. It should also be noted that NIH is a patent holder on the Moderna vaccine, so has an obvious conflict of interest as well. The grifters are the ones pushing the vaccines and the boosters on kids and otherwise perfectly healthy people with statistically near-zero risk from Covid.
About the dosage levels, you once again speak from a position of ignorance. The recommended dosage level for livestock and humans is exactly the same at 0.2 mg / kg. You are again mindlessly parroting what you're told to believe, instead of thinking for yourself. You want to know why people are turning to these kind of solutions? Because they've been lied to so many times, and they know it, and this administration has lost the trust of the people. That's why. They've been told they're too stupid to think for themselves, and they're not allowed to have informative, educational discussion, and that the administration will decide what they're allowed to see and hear, and what's good for you, and you will accept it and like it. Well guess what, they don't like it, and they're not accepting it, and it's showing up in the approval ratings.*USA's numbers show that the vast majority of Covid-19 deaths are unvaccinated, despite a majority of people being vaccinated including the oldest and most vulnerable.
*Israel's numbers show that the majority of severe Covid-19 cases are unvaccinated, despite an even larger majority of people being vaccinated.
*Gibraltar is fully vaccinated, and they show a dramatically lower death rate for their current outbreak relative to prior ones, especially compared to places like the USA which show surprisingly little improvement. Because in the USA it is likely that most cases are unvaccinated and thus show no real change.
All this is of course the tip of the iceberg, the USA is the most directly pertinent example because we both live there I think, while the latter two are nations you used to "prove" vaccinations don't work only for the actual data from them to show the opposite. But its not just those three. Nation after nation, study after study, reports the same facts, which is that vaccinated people are significantly less likely to be infected, and far less likely to die. In the July 12th to August 30th period, 1,374 fully vaccinated Americans died but 29,520 unvaccinated ones did. If America had 100% vaccination, the latter figure would be lower than 1,374 (as its a smaller and younger share of the population) and the death rate in the other bloc would be lower to (as there'd be less spread). Over half a thousand Americans are dying every day of Covid-19 who would be alive if they were vaccinated.
Big pharma being for-profit is undeniably a huge issue, but the proof is in the pudding, which is the drastic reduction in death rates for vaccinated populations vs unvaccinated. The vaccinations are free to the public and bought in bulk by government negotiated prices which as good as things ever get in the capitalist hellworld we call our current system. We already see how risk assessment played out in practice. With multiple Covid-19 vaccines developed simultaneously ones which either underperformed significantly or showed the slightest hint of serious side effects generally got tabled, and for those that passed 100's of millions got vaccinated and that expansive 'test' ultimately confirmed that they were in fact as safe and effective as advertised. Honestly we did get lucky.
On a tertiary note Trump got expensive and experimental treatments. He was rich and he got lucky. Scientists are in fact working around the clock to come up for medicine that specifically targeted Covid-19 for use on already infected patients, but unfortunately that's still in developmental stages. Of course if its approved by the authorities you will no doubt reject it too, ditto for Trump's treatments. Trump got vaccinated at the earliest opportunity, but that didn't stop anti-vaxxers. Heck Trump eventually tried to suggest people get vaccinated and got booed by his own supporters. Every government and scientific consensus body in the world could endorse anti-Covid measures and you wouldn't accept it.
But you don't seem interested in even considering it. Your response to data contradicting your views is to dismiss, to divert, to distract. There are so many ways to formulate the truth, such as:
https://static01.nyt.com/images/2021/06/09/us/covid-death-patterns-promo-1623268140952/covid-death-patterns-promo-1623268140952-videoSixteenByNineJumbo1600.png
https://www.ft.com/__origami/service/image/v2/images/raw/https%3A%2F%2Fd6c748xw2pzm8.cloudfront.net%2Fprod%2F14aa2ef0-9946-11eb-8c71-f5e40b5819a0-standard.png?fit=scale-down&source=next&width=700
The pointed decline of elderly Covid-19 deaths relative to younger populations due to their higher vaccination rates, as shown for both the USA and France, or:
https://static01.nyt.com/images/2021/07/30/us/covid-delta-cases-deaths-promo-1627688111595/covid-delta-cases-deaths-promo-1627688111595-jumbo-v4.png
How nations that vaccinate have seen declines in Covid-19 deaths while nations that lack vaccinations due to access or non-compliance are hit hard by new waves as much as old ones.
Sgt Lurker
09-07-21, 09:15
You just willfully misuses the purpose of Ivermectin in humans to prove your point which shows your level of stupid.
The mental distortion required to reject a COVID vaccine intended for humans, that has been tested and proven to be effective at preventing serious illness from COVID, to then accepting a medication intended as a de-wormer for horses that has NOT been medically or scientifically proven to be effective against COVID is utterly astounding. This is next level stupid!
You just willfully misuses the purpose of Ivermectin in humans to prove your point which shows your level of stupid.I try to never stop a dipshit from fucking themselves up. Helps thin out the stupid herd. Like you. Please go take some Ivermectin. Make sure to load up the short bus with Nitesukr, Hamget, Comtech brown-water pants and any of the others around here. Make a clean sweep.
Ivermectin - YouTube
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLtCBvKI_Mc
Aaron Hamlet
09-07-21, 11:41
Ivermectin has been safely used in humans for over 40 years to treat parasitic infections. Ivermectin works also as a protease inhibitor. Pfizer's new pill, hoped to be released soon to fight China Virus, is a protease inhibitor. Ivermectin is a generic and costs a fraction of a penny on the dollar vs the presumed cost of Pfizers soon to be released 'miracle' pill.
'Based on this, ivermectin has been recently reported as the most active agent against COVID-19 among the US FDA-approved drugs in vitro trial. Ivermectin is a macrocyclic lactone natively used to treat a broad spectrum of parasitic infestations including lymphatic filariasis and onchocerciasis. '.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7996102/
Aaron Hamlet
09-07-21, 12:15
Would you care to comment about the GROSS politicization of the CDC and FDA under t-Rump?The top two FDA officials in charge of vaccine research and review resigned in protest of the Biden administration's politicization of the FDA. This actually happened. It's real. It's current. In response you show random google searches claiming Trump attacked the FDA. Why? Did the top two FDA officials in charge of vaccine research and review resign in protest under Trump? No. They didn't. Why link meaningless google searches in an attempt to blame Trump? Why do you allow a verbose male authority figure to trigger you so much? Is it due to unresolved conflicts between you and your father? Psych 101. I think it is. You need to work that out. It's taking a toll. You're pretty fucking creepy. Kiddie porn, peeping thru windows, messing with animals kind of creepy. Please stay out of my feed.
I try to never stop a dipshit from fucking themselves up. Helps thin out the stupid herd. Like you. Please go take some Ivermectin. Make sure to load up the short bus with Nitesukr, Hamget, Comtech brown-water pants and any of the others around here. Make a clean sweep.
Ivermectin - YouTube
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLtCBvKI_McWhose job was it to keep you from fucking up your life? What a catastrophic failure.
The top two FDA officials in charge of vaccine research and review resigned in protest of the Biden administration's politicization of the FDA. This actually happened. It's real. It's current. In response you show random google searches claiming Trump attacked the FDA. Why? Did the top two FDA officials in charge of vaccine research and review resign in protest under Trump? No. They didn't. Why link meaningless google searches in an attempt to blame Trump? Why do you allow a verbose male authority figure to trigger you so much? Is it due to unresolved conflicts between you and your father? Psych 101. I think it is. You need to work that out. It's taking a toll. You're pretty fucking creepy. Kiddie porn, peeping thru windows, messing with animals kind of creepy. Please stay out of my feed.Yep, right on cue, from the forums chief manure spreader.
I Luv Emall
09-07-21, 15:49
What's next-level stupid is your inability to read, and apparently think. You've gone through all kinds of mental distortions to imply and impute things that I never said, but you're too stupid to even realize it. I won't bother to explain it to you because you're beyond help, but I'll offer up a standing bet anytime you've got the balls to back up all your big talk. I'll bet you $1000 that I'll outscore you in any IQ test you want to take. We can meet at a proctoring service location and take the test at the same time. I'm confident I'll embarrass you because this test won't include anything on the toilet humor or pedophilia that you spend all your time on.
The mental distortion required to reject a COVID vaccine intended for humans, that has been tested and proven to be effective at preventing serious illness from COVID, to then accepting a medication intended as a de-wormer for horses that has NOT been medically or scientifically proven to be effective against COVID is utterly astounding. This is next level stupid!
What's next-level stupid is your inability to read, and apparently think. You've gone through all kinds of mental distortions to imply and impute things that I never said, but you're too stupid to even realize it. I won't bother to explain it to you because you're beyond help, but I'll offer up a standing bet anytime you've got the balls to back up all your big talk. I'll bet you $1000 that I'll outscore you in any IQ test you want to take. We can meet at a proctoring service location and take the test at the same time. I'm confident I'll embarrass you because this test won't include anything on the toilet humor or pedophilia that you spend all your time on.Thanks, now go back to your henhouse Chicken Little. Nobody takes your cackling seriously.
I Luv Emall
09-07-21, 17:19
Yes, we've been over it, and you keep making the same point over and over (that the vaccines are symptomatically effective), even though I acknowledged this from the very start. I have never dismissed that data, despite your claims to the contrary. I even said maybe they have a place for the elderly or health-compromised. Those are the ones that are largely at risk of dying from Covid. The rest is fear-mongering, and trying to distort the stats into a one-size fits-all to push an agenda through. That makes no sense to me, and is illogical. On the other hand, I haven't seen any convincing evidence of your claim that the vaccines are preventing the spread of the disease. No, I won't accept claims just because "experts" tell me I should. I will accept only the truth, and the truth and the data speak for themselves. I can make the same claim about you that every data point that I show that demonstrates otherwise you dismiss.
I think you get my point, but are just choosing to ignore it. My issue is not as much with the vaccines themselves (although admittedly, I don't feel the risk / reward is in favor for my age / health profile, and I do also question potential long-term issues which I've already pointed out), but with this administration and media for the censorship and distortion in an effort to force their agenda. I find that censorship and agenda an affront to civil liberties, human rights, and everything this country was built on. I think others in this country have about had enough as well and are starting to voice the same:
https://www.newsweek.com/joe-biden-chants-break-college-football-games-country-1626438
When college kids around the country start chanting "Fuck Joe Biden" at football games, that gives you an idea of the frustration level people have with this administration, and the lies they're being told. This is the kind of thing that goes viral, and it wouldn't shock me to see this catch on at more and more campuses around the country. If this carries through to mid-terms, his own party will be joining the chant as well.
Regarding Trump, I really don't care what he chooses to do for himself and vaccination- that's a personal choice that everyone should be able to make for themselves. I do care that he says that would respect that choice, and would never make vaccines mandatory, and for that reason alone, I would support him over Biden. I think the Democrats are going to discover most independents feel this way. The cost of monoclonal antibodies has already come down significantly, and would come down dramatically more if focus were put in that direction. But that is not what this administration wants at all. They don't want effective treatments for Covid. They want people scared so they can force their vaccines.
*USA's numbers show that the vast majority of Covid-19 deaths are unvaccinated, despite a majority of people being vaccinated including the oldest and most vulnerable.
*Israel's numbers show that the majority of severe Covid-19 cases are unvaccinated, despite an even larger majority of people being vaccinated.
*Gibraltar is fully vaccinated, and they show a dramatically lower death rate for their current outbreak relative to prior ones, especially compared to places like the USA which show surprisingly little improvement. Because in the USA it is likely that most cases are unvaccinated and thus show no real change.
All this is of course the tip of the iceberg, the USA is the most directly pertinent example because we both live there I think, while the latter two are nations you used to "prove" vaccinations don't work only for the actual data from them to show the opposite. But its not just those three. Nation after nation, study after study, reports the same facts, which is that vaccinated people are significantly less likely to be infected, and far less likely to die. In the July 12th to August 30th period, 1,374 fully vaccinated Americans died but 29,520 unvaccinated ones did. If America had 100% vaccination, the latter figure would be lower than 1,374 (as its a smaller and younger share of the population) and the death rate in the other bloc would be lower to (as there'd be less spread). Over half a thousand Americans are dying every day of Covid-19 who would be alive if they were vaccinated.
Big pharma being for-profit is undeniably a huge issue, but the proof is in the pudding, which is the drastic reduction in death rates for vaccinated populations vs unvaccinated. The vaccinations are free to the public and bought in bulk by government negotiated prices which as good as things ever get in the capitalist hellworld we call our current system. We already see how risk assessment played out in practice. With multiple Covid-19 vaccines developed simultaneously ones which either underperformed significantly or showed the slightest hint of serious side effects generally got tabled, and for those that passed 100's of millions got vaccinated and that expansive 'test' ultimately confirmed that they were in fact as safe and effective as advertised. Honestly we did get lucky.
On a tertiary note Trump got expensive and experimental treatments. He was rich and he got lucky. Scientists are in fact working around the clock to come up for medicine that specifically targeted Covid-19 for use on already infected patients, but unfortunately that's still in developmental stages. Of course if its approved by the authorities you will no doubt reject it too, ditto for Trump's treatments. Trump got vaccinated at the earliest opportunity, but that didn't stop anti-vaxxers. Heck Trump eventually tried to suggest people get vaccinated and got booed by his own supporters. Every government and scientific consensus body in the world could endorse anti-Covid measures and you wouldn't accept it.
But you don't seem interested in even considering it. Your response to data contradicting your views is to dismiss, to divert, to distract. There are so many ways to formulate the truth, such as:
https://static01.nyt.com/images/2021/06/09/us/covid-death-patterns-promo-1623268140952/covid-death-patterns-promo-1623268140952-videoSixteenByNineJumbo1600.png
https://www.ft.com/__origami/service/image/v2/images/raw/https%3A%2F%2Fd6c748xw2pzm8.cloudfront.net%2Fprod%2F14aa2ef0-9946-11eb-8c71-f5e40b5819a0-standard.png?fit=scale-down&source=next&width=700
The pointed decline of elderly Covid-19 deaths relative to younger populations due to their higher vaccination rates, as shown for both the USA and France, or:
https://static01.nyt.com/images/2021/07/30/us/covid-delta-cases-deaths-promo-1627688111595/covid-delta-cases-deaths-promo-1627688111595-jumbo-v4.png
How nations that vaccinate have seen declines in Covid-19 deaths while nations that lack vaccinations due to access or non-compliance are hit hard by new waves as much as old ones.
I Luv Emall
09-07-21, 17:21
Put your money where your big fat mouth is. Who's the chicken shit now?
Thanks, now go back to your henhouse Chicken Little. Nobody takes your cackling seriously.
Aaron Hamlet
09-07-21, 17:33
Yep, right on cue, from the forums chief manure spreader.You know how to read, pervert? Stick to your kiddie porn and peeping thru windows you fucking weirdo.
From the Trump hating Business Insider.
https://www.businessinsider.com/2-top-fda-officials-resigned-biden-booster-plan-reports-2021-9
You know how to read, pervert? Stick to your kiddie porn and peeping thru windows you fucking weirdo.
From the Trump hating Business Insider.
https://www.businessinsider.com/2-top-fda-officials-resigned-biden-booster-plan-reports-2021-9
Put your money where your big fat mouth is. Who's the chicken shit now?
More entertainment from the two middle school sorority queens. Keep pissing in the wind, your comments don't deserve any more insight than calling them retarded because they are shallow, stupid and detached from reality.
Sgt Lurker
09-07-21, 20:53
So those people whose Doctors prescribed Ivermectin or Hydroxychloroquine and not only survived Covid but the symptoms disappeared real quick are all lying? Those who have been taking preventative supplements and have not caught the China Virus are also lying? I do not always trust these so called trail studies done in labs because I think too many have an ulterior motive.
I try to never stop a dipshit from fucking themselves up. Helps thin out the stupid herd. Like you. Please go take some Ivermectin. Make sure to load up the short bus with Nitesukr, Hamget, Comtech brown-water pants and any of the others around here. Make a clean sweep.
Ivermectin - YouTube
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLtCBvKI_Mc
Merck Inc the company that manufactures Ivermectin, has explicitly stated that there is NO scientific basis that Ivermectin has a therapeutic effect against COVID-19.
According to Merck, there are several ongoing clinical trials involving ivermectin as a possible treatment of Covid-19. But, at present there aren't any validated data on ivermectin's efficacy against Covid-19 in people.
Merck scientists continue to carefully examine the findings of all available and emerging studies of ivermectin for the treatment of COVID-19 for evidence of efficacy and safety. It is important to note that, to-date, our analysis has identified:
* No scientific basis for a potential therapeutic effect against COVID-19 from pre-clinical studies.
* No meaningful evidence for clinical activity or clinical efficacy in patients with COVID-19 disease.
* A concerning lack of safety data in the majority of studies.
We do not believe that the data available support the safety and efficacy of ivermectin beyond the doses and populations indicated in the regulatory agency-approved prescribing information.
https://www.merck.com/news/merck-statement-on-ivermectin-use-during-the-covid-19-pandemic/
I Luv Emall
09-07-21, 22:32
Oh, they're quite in phase with the reality that you're mouth is too big for your britches, and you're afraid to back it up. Just like when you got shut up in school for running that fat trap, the only difference being now you're able to take solace hiding behind the keyboard. Go ahead and pretend you're being the bigger man, we've all witnessed your repeated disgusting toilet humor here over and over again, so you're not fooling anyone. C'Mon., you're always talking down to everyone and condescending, so this should be an easy $1000 for you, right?
You're a fraud and a pedophile, and a chicken shit one at that.
More entertainment from the two middle school sorority queens. Keep pissing in the wind, your comments don't deserve any more insight than calling them retarded because they are shallow, stupid and detached from reality.
I think you get my point, but are just choosing to ignore it. My issue is not as much with the vaccines themselves (although admittedly, I don't feel the risk / reward is in favor for my age / health profile, and I do also question potential long-term issues which I've already pointed out), There are a lot of people with a similar mindset to you that think they're healthy enough to beat COVID-19 because of their "age / health profile" who are in their fifties, fourties, thirties, and twenties who caught COVID-19 and now either have crushing medical debt or won the herman cain award.
https://www.reddit.com/r/HermanCainAward/
It's not a good idea to believe you're untouchable, these people did and not only were they wrong but it cost them dearly.
Sgt Lurker
09-08-21, 08:05
If anyone has taken the time to find a local Doctor they fully trust, why would you go against their recommendation because of some no face person at CDC, WHO, etc. Who says different? I choose to trust my local Doctor, even if he is retired Navy. No, I have not been prescribed any of these for the China virus but I know him, I do not know any of these others and what their true motive is.
Merck Inc the company that manufactures Ivermectin, has explicitly stated that there is NO scientific basis that Ivermectin has a therapeutic effect against COVID-19.
According to Merck, there are several ongoing clinical trials involving ivermectin as a possible treatment of Covid-19. But, at present there aren't any validated data on ivermectin's efficacy against Covid-19 in people.
Merck scientists continue to carefully examine the findings of all available and emerging studies of ivermectin for the treatment of COVID-19 for evidence of efficacy and safety. It is important to note that, to-date, our analysis has identified:
* No scientific basis for a potential therapeutic effect against COVID-19 from pre-clinical studies.
* No meaningful evidence for clinical activity or clinical efficacy in patients with COVID-19 disease.
* A concerning lack of safety data in the majority of studies.
We do not believe that the data available support the safety and efficacy of ivermectin beyond the doses and populations indicated in the regulatory agency-approved prescribing information.
https://www.merck.com/news/merck-statement-on-ivermectin-use-during-the-covid-19-pandemic/
Oh, they're quite in phase with the reality that you're mouth is too big for your britches, and you're afraid to back it up. Just like when you got shut up in school for running that fat trap, the only difference being now you're able to take solace hiding behind the keyboard. Go ahead and pretend you're being the bigger man, we've all witnessed your repeated disgusting toilet humor here over and over again, so you're not fooling anyone. C'Mon., you're always talking down to everyone and condescending, so this should be an easy $1000 for you, right?
You're a fraud and a pedophile, and a chicken shit one at that.Still stuck in Middle school huh? Some of the adults here say it like is without a hint of your prepubescent gibberish BS. Based on the preponderance of your posts, there is no chance at all you could ever reach the "adult" level, it's always the same old childish, meaningless, empty rhetoric. It's ok though, as I realize this is the best you can do and like a few of the grown adults here, we are used to your infantile rants. TADA!
I Luv Emall
09-08-21, 08:50
It's not a good idea to believe you're untouchable, these people did and not only were they wrong but it cost them dearly.So did these people:
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/safety/adverse-events.html
I don't ever think I'm untouchable- didn't before Covid and don't now. It's all about risk assessment. I'll be happy to take vaccines like this one, that make sense and actually prevent transmission, once they're tested and proven as they should be:
https://www.technologynetworks.com/biopharma/news/intranasal-covid-19-vaccine-reduces-disease-severity-and-blocks-transmission-351955
So did these people:
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/safety/adverse-events.html
We talked about this VAERS data is completely unreliable and should not be taken seriously as most of those people are trolls.
I Luv Emall
09-08-21, 11:18
We talked about this VAERS data is completely unreliable and should not be taken seriously as most of those people are trolls.Completely disagree, as many VAERS reports are filled out by healthcare providers. This system has been used for decades by the CDC and is the gold standard used to measure adverse events for vaccines, and now all of a sudden, because huge spikes are seen in the data caused by these Covid vaccines, they are unreliable? Again, it's ironic and hypocritical how you talk about others dismissing data points that don't agree their point of view, yet you're the very first one to do so.
To the contrary, most experts agree that VAERS system historically underreports at a rate anywhere from 1-10%. So you can take those numbers and multiply them by a factor of 10 or 100.
Completely disagree, as many VAERS reports are filled out by healthcare providers. This system has been used for decades by the CDC and is No it's not, ANYONE can go that site and make a claim about having vaccine "side effects" I could go onto that site and claim that the vaccine turn me into the Hulk and it would accept it as legitimate. The CDC has stated multiple times that VAERS data is not reliable.
I Luv Emall
09-08-21, 11:47
Completely disagree, as many VAERS reports are filled out by healthcare providers. This system has been used for decades by the CDC and is...
No it's not, ANYONE can go that site and make a claim about having vaccine "side effects" I could go onto that site and claim that the vaccine turn me into the Hulk and it would accept it as legitimate. The CDC has stated multiple times that VAERS data is not reliable.You need to stop talking out of your ass and making shit up. From the CDC site:
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/safety/vaers.html
"Under Emergency Use Authorization, FDA requires healthcare professionals to report to VAERS certain adverse events that occur after COVID-19 vaccination. ".
"Vaccine safety experts review all reports of serious adverse events submitted to VAERS. A serious adverse event after vaccination is something that causes
Permanent disability
Hospitalization or an extended hospital stay (if vaccinated while in the hospital)
Life-threatening illness
Birth defects (congenital anomalies)
Death
When VAERS staff members follow-up on a report of a serious adverse event, they ask for the patient's medical records related to the event to learn more about what happened. ".
You need to back up your ridiculous bullshit claims, instead of just making crap up. You've done that multiple times now, along with posting false stories with claims made by fraudsters with completely falsified facts. Just like the ER rooms "deluged by Ivermectin overdoses" in Oklahoma, while state officials documented only a dozen reported calls since May, most of which consisted of only mild cases of dizzines or nausea. Again, you're just fed bullshit by the media, and you lap it and repeat it as if it's fact and you're knowledgeable on the subject, when in fact you're just displaying your ignorance on the matter.
You need to stop talking out of your ass and making shit up. From the CDC site:
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/safety/vaers.html
"Under Emergency Use Authorization, FDA requires healthcare professionals to report to VAERS certain adverse events that occur after COVID-19 vaccination. ".
"Vaccine safety experts review all reports of serious adverse events submitted to VAERS. A serious adverse event after vaccination is something that causes
Permanent disability
Hospitalization or an extended hospital stay (if vaccinated while in the hospital)
Life-threatening illness
Birth defects (congenital anomalies)
Death
When VAERS staff members follow-up on a report of a serious adverse event, they ask for the patient's medical records related to the event to learn more about what happened. ".
You need to back up your ridiculous bullshit claims, instead of just making crap up. You've done that multiple times now, along with posting false stories with claims made by fraudsters with completely falsified facts. Just like the ER rooms "deluged by Ivermectin overdoses" in Oklahoma, while state officials documented only a dozen reported calls since May, most of which consisted of only mild cases of dizzines or nausea. Again, you're just fed bullshit by the media, and you lap it and repeat it as if it's fact and you're knowledgeable on the subject, when in fact you're just displaying your ignorance on the matter.The point of VAERS is to look for patterns and provide early detection of possible adverse events that were not seen in the clinical trials. The site explicitly says that it can't verify whether these adverse events were actually caused by vaccines.
From the same CDC link.
VAERS Limitations
VAERS reports alone generally cannot be used to determine if a vaccine caused or contributed to an adverse event or illness. Some reports may contain information that is incomplete, inaccurate, coincidental, or unverifiable. VAERS reports often lack contextual information, such as total vaccinations given or information on unvaccinated groups for comparison. Most reports to VAERS are voluntary, which means they may be subject to biases. Data from VAERS reports should always be interpreted with these limitations in mind.
I Luv Emall
09-08-21, 12:36
The point of VAERS is to look for patterns and provide early detection of possible adverse events that were not seen in the clinical trials. The site explicitly says that it can't verify whether these adverse events were actually caused by vaccines.
From the same CDC link.
VAERS Limitations
VAERS reports alone generally cannot be used to determine if a vaccine caused or contributed to an adverse event or illness. Some reports may contain information that is incomplete, inaccurate, coincidental, or unverifiable. VAERS reports often lack contextual information, such as total vaccinations given or information on unvaccinated groups for comparison. Most reports to VAERS are voluntary, which means they may be subject to biases. Data from VAERS reports should always be interpreted with these limitations in mind.As I stated from the beginning, that's always been true of VAERS for every vaccine, and has been the case for decades. Nothing new under the sun, and nothing different that would make the numbers for these vaccines stick out like out a sore thumb, except for the fact that these vaccines have significantly higher reported adverse events- more in 7 months for these Covid vaccines than for all other vaccines combined in the 30 year history of VAERS. That's pretty astounding, and cannot be dismissed with your hand waving. I repeat, this is the gold standard for vaccine reporting.
Aaron Hamlet
09-08-21, 13:39
New poll from the piece of shit Orangeman bad uniparty kunts at the Economist have Biden's approvals at 39%. Biden is underwater on all issues from economy, immigration, China virus response, climate change, national security, Afghanistan etc. Poll shows Kamala Harris is more unpopular than Orangeman. This is terrible for Biden / Harris but what makes it horrible is that the Economist polled 10% more democrats than republicans, a D+10 sample at Dems 38%, republicans 28% and independent 34%. On this poll equal weighted. Biden's approval is actually in the 20%'s and Orangeman is twice as popular as Kamala. Biden stole the election. He has no base therefore no floor. His ability to govern is over.
https://docs.cdn.yougov.com/hlzpfslijb/econTabReport.pdf
Aaron Hamlet
09-08-21, 13:56
The CDC has stated multiple times that VAERS data is not reliable.VAERS data is under reported. Where's your link to this being unreliable? Never been at issue before. Trolls filling out this five page form and lying under the risk of a federal perjury charge?
https://vaers.hhs.gov/esub/index.jsp
And:
I see you are continuing to play the 100% selfishness card Are you a female or identify as female? No grown man talks like that to another man unless you're sucking his dick. Right?
VAERS data is under reported.
Yeah I doubt that.
Never been at issue before.That was before antivaxxers came out of the basement and certain politicians making taking the shot become political.
VAERS data is under reported. Where's your link to this being unreliable? It's on the CDC site.
Trolls filling out this five page form and lying under the risk of a federal perjury charge?
https://vaers.hhs.gov/esub/index.jspYep it's not that unbelievable anymore given that Jan 6 happened.
Are you a female or identify as female? No grown man talks like that to another man unless you're sucking his dick. Right?No I am a man and identify as so and besides even if I was a woman it doesn't matter what I said was completely 100% true.
On this poll equal weighted. Biden's approval is actually in the 20%'s and Orangeman is twice as popular as Kamala. Biden stole the election. He has no base therefore no floor. His ability to govern is over.
https://docs.cdn.yougov.com/hlzpfslijb/econTabReport.pdfYeah your source isn't very reliable dude and also the election was not stolen you need to move on. 😁.
Vars is basically just the Jerry Springer Show of medicine.
I Luv Emall
09-08-21, 22:45
Vars is basically just the Jerry Springer Show of medicine.Dude, you can't even get the acronymn right. I don't think you're even quaified to be a guest on the Jerry Springer show.
I Luv Emall
09-08-21, 22:55
No I am a man and identify as so and besides even if I was a woman it doesn't matter what I said was completely 100% true.No, what you said was 100% self-righteous opinion based on nothing but conjecture without any supporting facts, and meant to try to guilt shame others into conforming with your misinformed demands. Too bad, it won't work anymore than the fear-mongering tactic will work in getting people to accept this administration's vaccine agenda.
Dude, you can't even get the acronymn right. I don't think you're even quaified to be a guest on the Jerry Springer show.Oops, I missed a letter when typing. Is that a capital offense? Before you say "yes" you might consider your spelling of "qualified" above.
I am proud to be ineligible for the Jerry Springer show. I admit that I am too educated and reasoned for that sort of silliness. Also not wildly emotional or psychotic. And probably too good looking.
No, what you said was 100% self-righteous opinion based on nothing but conjecture without any supporting facts,I have been giving you nothing but credible facts with credible sources but you won't listen to it because it doesn't fit your world view but it does not make what I said any less 100% true.
I Luv Emall
09-09-21, 09:40
I have been giving you nothing but credible facts with credible sources but you won't listen to it because it doesn't fit your world view but it does not make what I said any less 100% true.
LOL- you must be joking! Like that fraudulent article from the Guardian with the Oklahoma ER rooms overflowing with Ivermectin overdoses? Or your bullshit posts about the VAERS system and being able to claim turning into the Hulk? Your ignorant bullshit has been called out so many times that no one has time to waste sifting through all the BS you post. You have no credibility because you're always posting a bunch of unverified, unfactual, untruthful bullshit.
You haven't provided any credible evidence that the vaccines are preventing the spread, because you can't. The vaccine manufacturers don't even make this claim. Only this lying administration and their minions spread this propaganda. I and others have presented a ton of evidence to the contrary, and even the CDC has admitted that the vaccinated carry viral loads as high as the unvaccinated. Your argument holds no water. If you want to get the vaccine because you fear for your health that's fine with me, but don't try to force your agenda on others based on false premises and holier than thou hollow rhetoric. Again, there are strong arguments that can be made that the vaccines are actually contributing to the problem, but I'm not going to rehash that because you won't listen as it doesn't fit your narrative.
MrBigbOne1
09-09-21, 11:51
LOL- you must be joking! Like that fraudulent article from the Guardian with the Oklahoma ER rooms overflowing with Ivermectin overdoses? Or your bullshit posts about the VAERS system and being able to claim turning into the Hulk? Your ignorant bullshit has been called out so many times that no one has time to waste sifting through all the BS you post. You have no credibility because you're always posting a bunch of unverified, unfactual, untruthful bullshit.
You haven't provided any credible evidence that the vaccines are preventing the spread, because you can't. The vaccine manufacturers don't even make this claim. Only this lying administration and their minions spread this propaganda. I and others have presented a ton of evidence to the contrary, and even the CDC has admitted that the vaccinated carry viral loads as high as the unvaccinated. Your argument holds no water. If you want to get the vaccine because you fear for your health that's fine with me, but don't try to force your agenda on others based on false premises and holier than thou hollow rhetoric. Again, there are strong arguments that can be made that the vaccines are actually contributing to the problem, but I'm not going to rehash that because you won't listen as it doesn't fit your narrative.So are you saying vacations don't work? I'm I understanding you? So all the vacations we got when we were kids have no effect? I wish a could remember a time when we did not have them and the impact those viruses had on the population. But I guess that information does not exist. I don't understand vaccination hesitation or this blatant misinformation campaign. All I know is that almost 100% of the people dying in hospitals right now are non-vaccinated. And I am ok with that as insurance company change policies to charge these people more it or drop them all together it is their choice but choice has consequences. All I hope is that people who choose not to wear a mask as so that we can protect the ones that can not protect themselves.
LOL- you must be joking! Like that fraudulent article from the Guardian with the Oklahoma ER rooms overflowing with Ivermectin overdoses? Or your bullshit posts about the VAERS system and being able to claim turning into the Hulk? Your ignorant bullshit has been called out so many times that no one has time to waste sifting through all the BS you post. You have no credibility because you're always posting a bunch of unverified, unfactual, untruthful bullshit.
You haven't provided any credible evidence that the vaccines are preventing the spread, because you can't. The vaccine manufacturers don't even make this claim. Only this lying administration and their minions spread this propaganda. I and others have presented a ton of evidence to the contrary, and even the CDC has admitted that the vaccinated carry viral loads as high as the unvaccinated. Your argument holds no water. If you want to get the vaccine because you fear for your health that's fine with me, but don't try to force your agenda on others based on false premises and holier than thou hollow rhetoric. Again, there are strong arguments that can be made that the vaccines are actually contributing to the problem, but I'm not going to rehash that because you won't listen as it doesn't fit your narrative.Once again the official data from the CDC is very clear. 95%+ of deaths are from unvaccinated, despite them being just 47% of the population and only 18% of the elderly population that is most vulnerable. You dismissed this. You dismissed this repeatedly. When you offered as alternatives the cherrypicked examples of Israel and Gibraltar as "proof" that vaccinations didn't work, I dug through the numbers and found that they too showed the same pattern of vaccination causing a dramatic drop in hospitalizations and deaths.
When it comes to works that support your claim, there is no dataset too narrow, no source too untrustworthy. When it comes to works that oppose your claim, no amount of data matters, every source is deemed to have questionable motives, etc etc. It reminds me of the whole global warming denialism, where the vast scientific consensus got accused of "wanting more grant money" while unqualified pundits funded by the fossil fuel industry got labeled crusaders for truth. Other times you've taken data from good sources, but then applied non-expert analysis that fails to interpret it correctly.
I'm not terribly interested in sifting through your sources when you dismiss mine baselessly and incoherently. This is epitomized by you simultaneously dismissing CDC's breakthrough deaths vs overall deaths figure out of hand, while demanding that I take your interpretation of the CDC's VAERS data dead seriously.
Oh its also kind of hilarious that after a lecture on profit motives, once again this comes from your own provided source I might add:
SOME OF the loudest opposition to ivermectin has come from Merck Co. , which manufactured the drug in the 1980's. In a public statement about ivermectin on its website in February, it said: "Company scientists continue to carefully examine the findings of all available and emerging studies of ivermectin for the treatment of COVID-19 for evidence of efficacy and safety. It is important to note that, to date, our analysis has identified no scientific basis for a potential therapeutic effect against COVID-19 from pre-clinical studies; no meaningful evidence for clinical activity or clinical efficacy in patients with COVID-19 disease, and a concerning lack of safety data in the majority of studies. ".
If Ivermectin was the panacea you claim it to be then Merck, which invented the drug and manufactures it to this day, would be eagerly hawking it. Instead they desperately beg people not to use it, probably because they don't want to get hit with the inevitable lawsuits when people poison themselves by ODing on a mild nerve agent.
"Luv said:
My issue is not as much with the vaccines themselves (although admittedly, I don't feel the risk / reward is in favor for my age / health profile, and I do also question potential long-term issues which I've already pointed out), but with this administration and media for the censorship and distortion in an effort to force their agenda. I find that censorship and agenda an affront to civil liberties, human rights, and everything this country was built on. I think others in this country have about had enough as well and are starting to voice the same. ".
It was the Trump administration and associates that said it would all go away soon, that it was just the flu, that precautions weren't necessary, that elderly dying just meant it was "their time to pass". Heck most of the waffling by people like Fauci happened under them too, though that wasn't dishonesty. In the early stages they were genuinely unsure about how it propagated. It took time to figure out heavily air-based it was, which meant that sanitizing things wasn't much help, or that being indoors with a few people is more dangerous than being outdoors with many.
Its also a foregone conclusion to me that vaccines aren't going to permanently extinguish Covid-19, for the same reasons that flu vaccines don't permanently extinguish the flu. That IS something authorities are a tad deceptive about, because they don't want to admit that we're probably going to be getting "booster shots" for Covid-19 forever. At this point the role of the vaccine is to reduce deaths, not contain its spread. If people had complied early enough, could we have vaccinated people against the dominant strains fast enough to wipe it out before new strains could evolve to take its place? Maybe. But we don't live in that world.
As for broader questions of freedom, I think this man elucidates my feelings on the subject nicely:
https://twitter.com/sciencemonkeyca/status/1433971196157173762
Society routinely restricts people's freedoms, generally because unrestricted freedoms for one person tends to run over and undermine the freedoms of other. Pandemics also restrict people's freedoms. The sooner we can end the pandemic, the sooner we can be free to move and live without risk. The consistent failure of half the USA to comply with pandemic control measures ensured that the pandemic persisted unnecessarily long and severely, restricting the freedoms of everyone, and restricting freedom permanently for hundreds of thousands of dead Americans and the many live ones who've become permanently debilitated, or who are friends and family of the same.
I'll reiterate that nothing epitomizes your approach to data like how you've handled the CDC's data:
1: You dismiss the CDC's breakthrough deaths vs overall deaths figure out of hand, while demanding that I take your interpretation of the CDC's VAERS data dead seriously.
2: Your interpretation of VAERS data is "anyone who died =after getting the vaccine was killed by the vaccine". You previously claimed "I will grant you that hundreds of thousands of people have died "WITH" Covid19 but I guarantee you that that number is a minor percent when you say that they died "OF" Covid19. " but are now casually applying that same logic you (baselessly) accused the CDC of using.
When asked to delineate between "died WITH vaccination" vs "died OF vaccination" the CDC says the death count is just 3, all of them the Johnson and Johnson one, which has consistently been the one that's raised concerns over blood clots. This isn't even the first or second time that Reuters has had to debunk this, but as is clearly stated:
FDA requires healthcare providers to report any death after COVID-19 vaccination to VAERS, even if it is unclear whether the vaccine was the cause.
The VAERS data is an all-inclusive "ANY death after Covid-19 vaccination" standard. You are interpreting this as meaning 100% of deaths or close to it are from vaccinations, while rejecting the far lower official figures. And fittingly enough, something like 80%+ of those deaths are indeed elderly people who are for obvious reasons more death-prone than the overall population.
The Covid-19 death data is not "anyone who died after contracting Covid-19" but straight from the mouths of doctor pronouncing cause of death, which you are accusing professionals of systematically lying because reasons. Or perhaps you are just rejecting the CDC who compiles the overall numbers. The same CDC for whom you are using VAERS data as a source.
Why you are doing this is pretty obvious. The breakthrough deaths figure contradicts your ideological worldview, so you accuse the CDC of falsely pushing it to serve a political agenda. The VAERS deaths figure as 'interpreted' by you aligns with your ideological worldview, so you assume it to be 100% valid and have no ulterior motive despite coming from the same source, who by your own logic should have just buried the VAERS data entirely.
https://www.reuters.com/article/factcheck-covid19-vaers/fact-check-vaers-data-does-not-prove-over-2000-deaths-due-to-covid-19-vaccines-in-july-2021-idUSL1N2PB2H3
https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-factcheck-vaers/fact-check-reports-of-adverse-effects-in-us-database-arent-confirmed-to-be-linked-to-vaccination-idUSKBN2AE0QQ
https://www.reuters.com/article/factcheck-vaers-deaths/fact-check-vaers-data-does-not-prove-thousands-died-from-receiving-covid-19-vaccines-idUSL1N2LV0NY
I Luv Emall
09-09-21, 12:47
blah blah blah...All you did was again demonstrate your inability to read, and your proclivity for redundancy over and over. Why do you keep repeating something that I stated in my original post (that vaccines have shown symptomatic effectivness)? Are you daft? You've spent pages and pages on this, even though I made this point originally and have stated it over and over. You act like you're proving something with this, when it's been acknowledged all along. I don't necessarily agree with all the stats and sources you've used to go along with that, but that's besides the point. How does this relate to your selfishness argument? It's my life, and I can make my own decisions about it. How does that impact you or others?
The only basis for your selfishness argument, and likewise your argument for ending the pandemic and restricting others freedoms, is the prevention of spread of the disease to others. To this, you've provided nothing, and did so again just now even after being explicitly asked, because you have nothing. Instead you tried to pivot once again to the symptomatic effectiveness. And that relates how? Again, that's a personal risk assessment every American should be entitled to make for themselves.
At this point the role of the vaccine is to reduce deaths, not contain its spread.
Ah, so we in fact agree, and this blows apart your selfishness argument and the basis for any vaccine mandates. In that case, I don't know what you've been rambling on about for pages, because if you'd bothered to read what I said, this was my point all along. I also happen to believe the vaccine doesn't make sense for me and for many other people if a proper risk analysis were done, but that's another argument for another day.
Regarding Ivermectin, Merck is far from the only manufacturer of Ivermectin you moron. Again, you really need to educate yourself before you spout off. Ivermectin is a long off-patent drug, is very cheap, and no one is going to get rich off Ivermectin. Never claimed Ivermectin was a panacea, because I don't make ridiculous, unfounded, exaggerated claims like you do. I do believe it can be an effective treatment for Covid, as dozens of studies have demonstrated.
Regarding the CDC, I do question a lot of information and data coming from there, including the VAERS data, which I think is vastly UNDERreported. See how that works?
I see Biden is trying to force the vaccines for Federal employees using the twisted logic to try and deflect and salvage his plummeting approval ratings. I think that's a bad gamble, and it's going to have the opposite effect. Fuck Joe Biden!
Airmantroy
09-09-21, 15:19
Once again the official data from the CDC is very clear. 95%+ of deaths are from unvaccinated, despite them being just 47% of the population and only 18% of the elderly population that is most vulnerable.Here's a real question. Is that 95%+ counted from the beginning of this whole shit show or just since the vaccine was released? I'm playing devils advocate here because I know how either side will skew the numbers to support their argument. I doubt the real numbers are even available without some dipshit adjusting them.
All you did was again demonstrate your inability to read, and your proclivity for redundancy over and over. Why do you keep repeating something that I stated in my original post (that vaccines have shown symptomatic effectivness)? Are you daft? You've spent pages and pages on this, even though I made this point originally and have stated it over and over. You act like you're proving something with this, when it's been acknowledged all along. I don't necessarily agree with all the stats and sources you've used to go along with that, but that's besides the point. How does this relate to your selfishness argument? It's my life, and I can make my own decisions about it. How does that impact you or others?
The only basis for your selfishness argument, and likewise your argument for ending the pandemic and restricting others freedoms, is the prevention of spread of the disease to others. To this, you've provided nothing, and did so again just now even after being explicitly asked, because you have nothing. Instead you tried to pivot once again to the symptomatic effectiveness. And that relates how? Again, that's a personal risk assessment every American should be entitled to make for themselves.
Ah, so we in fact agree, and this blows apart your selfishness argument and the basis for any vaccine mandates. In that case, I don't know what you've been rambling on about for pages, because if you'd bothered to read what I said, this was my point all along. I also happen to believe the vaccine doesn't make sense for me and for many other people if a proper risk analysis were done, but that's another argument for another day.
The vaccine massively reduces deaths, hospitalization rates, and permanent debilitation among all age groups, not just elderly. With no substantiated downsides. Cost-benefit analysis still favors all age groups doing so.
The vaccine is unable to reduce spread adequately because a large proportion of the population is not vaccinated and resists vaccination steadfastly. I am willing to accept that it is possible, albeit unproven, that a population which rapidly and fully vaccinated would still be unable to contain it due to its virulence and mutation rate. However most indications are to me that places like Gibraltar that fully vaccinate can drop cases to zero and keep them at zero so long as they do not interact with unvaccinated populations that serve as reservoirs for the disease. Unfortunately they do, and due to resistance to vaccination, that will likely remain the case indefinitely.
I can accept that we've failed. But it was a failure of action not a failure of inherent futility. Vaccines prevent spread and ideally extinguish a disease entirely by granting herd immunity. If we cannot achieve herd immunity levels of vaccination for a given disease before it mutates past the vaccination, then the ability of vaccines to preclude spread is inherently limited.
That said most experts say the vaccines reduce spread, and the data strongly suggests the same. The death rates of vaccinated are way down, but the overall deaths per cases ratio is not all that changed from previous waves. That implies either that Delta is more deadly, or that it isn't just most deaths but also most cases that are unvaccinated. Probably a little bit of both. Unfortunately getting good substantive data on breakthrough cases rather than just breakthrough hospitalizations / deaths has proven difficult. That said as I've noted before there are plenty of figures that have come up saying things like "80% of new cases are unvaccinated" or "vaccine less effective against Delta but still significantly reduces spread".
Regarding Ivermectin, Merck is far from the only manufacturer of Ivermectin you moron. Again, you really need to educate yourself before you spout off. Ivermectin is a long off-patent drug, is very cheap, and no one is going to get rich off Ivermectin. Never claimed Ivermectin was a panacea, because I don't make ridiculous, unfounded, exaggerated claims like you do. I do believe it can be an effective treatment for Covid, as dozens of studies have demonstrated.
The experts beg to disagree with your claims. I think they know more about the scientific method than you do. Or honestly just the people on twitter bragging about shitting out their intestinal lining as their body desperately tries to purge itself of nerve agent. There are promising options out there in the works like this,
https://m.jpost.com/health-science/covid-90-percent-of-patients-treated-with-new-israeli-drug-discharged-in-5-days-675961
but it takes time and research to confirm. Ivermectin is the same as hydroxychloroquine, something scientists did legitimately consider, but were largely unimpressed with the results and moved on.
In any case its pointless because no product used to treat symptomatic Covid-19 will prevent the spread of Covid-19, and as noted before the vaccine is already a safe effective way of reducing mortality of Covid-19 that can potentially reduce spread. Having a medication that can treat breakthrough cases would be a useful tool, but getting people vaccinated is far more useful overall.
Regarding the CDC, I do question a lot of information and data coming from there, including the VAERS data, which I think is vastly UNDERreported. See how that works?
Yes you disregard data that disagrees with you and accept data that agrees with you, come up with interpretations of data that don't align with official reports, and show no regard for things like the credibility of a source except as another cudgel for your viewpoint.
More broadly speaking there is a pretty simple test for conspiracy theories like "all world governments and credentialed experts claim treatment A works with no side effects and treatment B doesn't work while having side effects, but actually its the reverse" which is "what are rich people doing?". The answer is that outside of hard-right partisans and wacky celebrities, they're getting vaccinations, and they're not getting ivermectin. In some cases even the partisans and celebrities do. Trump got vaccinated as soon as possible Abbott went and got his booster shot.
In fact GOP governors by and large publicly endorse vaccination then try to blame non-white people for low vaccination rates... they resist lockdowns, social distancing, and masks in part because I think they're hoping to have their cake and eat it too. They hope that the vaccinations will stop Covid-19, or at least stop the influx of deaths, while still allowing them to throw red meat at the base by demolishing measures meant to reduce spread, which is irrelevant if Covid-19 is made extinct or harmless. Such hasn't panned out for them so far. The first wave of Covid-19 after vaccinations became wildly available is the first one overwhelmingly centered on GOP turf, both in terms of cases and deaths.
I see Biden is trying to force the vaccines for Federal employees using the twisted logic to try and deflect and salvage his plummeting approval ratings. I think that's a bad gamble, and it's going to have the opposite effect. Fuck Joe Biden!
Biden was always planning on doing so, approval ratings or not.
Aaron Hamlet
09-09-21, 19:37
Here's a real question. Is that 95%+ counted from the beginning of this whole shit show .CDC counts from Dec 2020. Look at the huge spike in cases and deaths before one non vaccine vaccine was put in populations arm. Lying bullshit form liars.
Aaron Hamlet
09-09-21, 19:38
If you're 65 in shape and healthy with no pre-existing conditions, your chances of getting laid up in the hospital sick or struck dead by China Virus is the same as in a car accident. 40,30, 20's it's same as falling down stairs, getting killed in a pick up football game, having a heart attack as you run out a grounder in a softball game. If you're 70 or older, morbidly obese and / or have pre-existing conditions, deciding to take an experimental non-vaccine vaccine is understandable. I'm in good shape, healthy with no pre-existing conditions. I've done ample research and decided not to take experimental non vaccine vaccine. I've read and heard here, notably from the peeping tom pedo Soros, gender conflicted rabbit and dickbreath roger, that people like me should be forced to die w / o medical attention because of my choice. Let me flip that script and say to those three fucksticks that I wish a miserable death upon you. A non vaccine vaccine induced massive cytokine storm kind of death. Google that, it's horrendous and not unlikely from this non vaccine vaccine. Your DNA needs to be removed from the stream. There has been enough adverse reactions to this non vaccine vaccine that it would have been pulled and destroyed. And remember, 'Vaccine development is a long, complex process, often lasting 10-15 years and involving a combination of public and private involvement. ' So that ass kicking cytokine storm may be 5-10 years in your future.
https://www.historyofvaccines.org/content/articles/vaccine-development-testing-and-regulation
Trying to non vaccine vaccine the entire population, regardless of risk, as a way out of an pandemic and using a leaky non vaccine vaccine in doing so, is in all likelihood what's causing these mutations. Get the non vaccine vaccine and you still get sick. The virus is not killed. This causes the virus to mutate, to overcome defense in order to survive. Look at Israel, UK. As non vaccine vaccinations increase, so do cases, hospitalizations and deaths. Non vaccinated or not. UK and Israel have national health plan, all data comes into one place. There is no evidence of a pandemic of the un non vaccine vaccinated. That's a lie. It's the healthy people at little or no risk, the fearful and feeble minded authoritarians who choose to get non vaccine vaccine who spread the virus, force it to mutate.
If you have a teenager or younger child and you choose to get them the non vaccine vaccine you're an unfit parent and your child needs to be removed from you and raised in a healthier environment before they turn out to be a Soros, Rabbit or Roger. The teenagers who have been non vaccine vaccinated have a 2-600% higher myopericarditis rate than China Virus hospitalization rate.
Top two FDA officials with a combined 65 years of experience resigned in protest of the Biden admin politicizing, not believing in the science regarding China Virus boosters. The corrupt to the core WHO wants to halt boosters for months so more studies can be made. But Joe Biden's ready to roll them out. Resist. Fuck Joe Biden and the weak minded motherfuckers at little or no China Virus risk who choose a non vaccine vaccine and make the situation worse for the rest of us.
I Luv Emall
09-10-21, 03:09
Yes you disregard data that disagrees with you and accept data that agrees with you, come up with interpretations of data that don't align with official reports, and show no regard for things like the credibility of a source except as another cudgel for your viewpoint.This is exactly what you do.
More broadly speaking there is a pretty simple test for conspiracy theories like "all world governments and credentialed experts claim treatment A works with no side effects and treatment B doesn't work while having side effects, but actually its the reverse" which is "what are rich people doing?". You have no clue what they're doing. You only know what they want you to believe they're doing. And I personally don't give a fuck what they're doing. I can think for myself, I don't need to be a follower. It's apparent you need someone to show and tell you what to do.
Biden was always planning on doing so, approval ratings or not.I know that, and I've long stated it as the reason for the bullshit misinformation campaign. But the timing of this is no coincidence. It doesn't matter, its not going to save him. Fuck Joe Biden!
Pedo? Is there something in your past you're not telling us? I'm going to recommend you increase the dosage of your psychotic Rx meds. In the meantime, please keep pissing in the wind, your comments don't deserve any more insight than calling you a total retard because they are shallow, stupid, and completely detached from reality.
If you're 65 in shape and healthy with no pre-existing conditions, your chances of getting laid up in the hospital sick or struck dead by China Virus is the same as in a car accident. 40,30, 20's it's same as falling down stairs, getting killed in a pick up football game, having a heart attack as you run out a grounder in a softball game. If you're 70 or older, morbidly obese and / or have pre-existing conditions, deciding to take an experimental non-vaccine vaccine is understandable. I'm in good shape, healthy with no pre-existing conditions. I've done ample research and decided not to take experimental non vaccine vaccine. I've read and heard here, notably from the peeping tom pedo Soros, gender conflicted rabbit and dickbreath roger, that people like me should be forced to die w / o medical attention because of my choice. Let me flip that script and say to those three fucksticks that I wish a miserable death upon you. A non vaccine vaccine induced massive cytokine storm kind of death. Google that, it's horrendous and not unlikely from this non vaccine vaccine. Your DNA needs to be removed from the stream. There has been enough adverse reactions to this non vaccine vaccine that it would have been pulled and destroyed. And remember, 'Vaccine development is a long, complex process, often lasting 10-15 years and involving a combination of public and private involvement. ' So that ass kicking cytokine storm may be 5-10 years in your future.
https://www.historyofvaccines.org/content/articles/vaccine-development-testing-and-regulation
Trying to non vaccine vaccine the entire population, regardless of risk, as a way out of an pandemic and using a leaky non vaccine vaccine in doing so, is in all likelihood what's causing these mutations. Get the non vaccine vaccine and you still get sick. The virus is not killed. This causes the virus to mutate, to overcome defense in order to survive. Look at Israel, UK. As non vaccine vaccinations increase, so do cases, hospitalizations and deaths. Non vaccinated or not. UK and Israel have national health plan, all data comes into one place. There is no evidence of a pandemic of the un non vaccine vaccinated. That's a lie. It's the healthy people at little or no risk, the fearful and feeble minded authoritarians who choose to get non vaccine vaccine who spread the virus, force it to mutate.
If you have a teenager or younger child and you choose to get them the non vaccine vaccine you're an unfit parent and your child needs to be removed from you and raised in a healthier environment before they turn out to be a Soros, Rabbit or Roger. The teenagers who have been non vaccine vaccinated have a 2-600% higher myopericarditis rate than China Virus hospitalization rate.
Top two FDA officials with a combined 65 years of experience resigned in protest of the Biden admin politicizing, not believing in the science regarding China Virus boosters. The corrupt to the core WHO wants to halt boosters for months so more studies can be made. But Joe Biden's ready to roll them out. Resist. Fuck Joe Biden and the weak minded motherfuckers at little or no China Virus risk who choose a non vaccine vaccine and make the situation worse for the rest of us.
We are all (supposedly) adults here and calling each other names is not going to help.
Against vaccines? Don't get one and live with the consequences. At best you lead a long and healthy life. At worst, you are one of the 1 in 500 Americans who die of the disease, or perhaps are sick enough to require hospitalization, hoping that your local hospital is not already full of your fellow anti-vaccers. Or you just pass it on to others -- no big deal. Unless, of course, it is one of your close friends or family member. P.S. -- its called Public Health for a reason. But it is your body and your choice. Choose wisely.
For vaccination? Then just go ahead and get it and live with the consequences. There is a small, but countable, chance that it will kill you. There is a far bigger chance that it will not. It may not prevent you from getting the disease, but it will help you avoid spreading it to others. Public Health again. If you do get the disease anyway, the chances of you becoming sick enough to require hospitalization go way down and the chance of you dying from it shrink even more dramatically. You don't even have to tell us you did it.
So make your own choice, but please stop trying to influence others. Skewed data and one off incidents to prove your general conclusion do no-one any good. Do your own research, come to your own conclusion, and take the action that you believe is right for yourself. Just stop trying to influence others.
And before you comment, yes, I have firm beliefs myself, and yes, I know they are not unapparent in my comments above. But you needn't listen to me. As I said before, make your own choice. Just live with the consequences.
Pedo? Is there something in your past you're not telling us? I'm going to recommend you increase the dosage of your psychotic Rx meds. In the meantime, please keep pissing in the wind, your comments don't deserve any more insight than calling you a total retard because they are shallow, stupid, and completely detached from reality.Love that pic, but just wait. It's early yet and cockgobbler hamlet will say something even more retarded as the day goes on. He really should wear that helmet his momma gave him. Yeah, it makes him look stupid, but he looks that way regardless.
Aaron Hamlet
09-10-21, 13:57
Pedo? There's others here that refer to you as a pedophile, did I miss something that made that common knowledge?
There's others here that refer to you as a pedophile, did I miss something that made that common knowledge?Dr. COVID whisperer, you seem so obsessed with name calling people pedophiles. Are you one yourself?
Aaron Hamlet
09-11-21, 08:57
Dr. COVID whisperer, you seem so obsessed with name calling people pedophiles. Are you one yourself?I don't name call people pedophiles, I name call you a pedophile because you're weird and creepy and others here have referred to you as same, as a pedophile.
I Luv Emall
09-11-21, 09:28
It may not prevent you from getting the disease, but it will help you avoid spreading it to others.Do you mind posting your evidence proving that? Because even the vaccine manufacturers don't make this claim. I know this is repeated over and over by the media, but that doesn't make it true. Show me actual, factual scientific data that proves this is true. If this is so true, why are so many of the most highly-vaccinated countries seeing such a surge in Covid rates? Why is Israel up over 1100% if vaccines are so effective at stopping the spread? This is propaganda that has been repeated, but has no basis in reality.
So make your own choice, but please stop trying to influence others. Skewed data and one off incidents to prove your general conclusion do no-one any good. Do your own research, come to your own conclusion, and take the action that you believe is right for yourself. Just stop trying to influence others.Oh, so it's ok for the pro-vaccine agenda and propaganda to be shoved down our throats 24/7, but there should be no truth to counter-balance that allowed? I really can't believe what this country has come to. That's the purpose of Freedom of Speech. And if you just read down this forum, I think you'll see the skewed data and incidents has come from the pro-vaccine side, and that's been documented. But you're too blind to see that. Your tactic is a common one of totalitarian regimes- when you don't want people to see the truth, you try to silence it and censor it. If you've got nothing to hide and have a defensible position, then you're not afraid to openly discuss and debate, because the truth will win out, it always does. It will ultimately win out here too, but not until after a lot of damage has already been done.
I can't believe the spineless coward senile leader we have, hiding behind his sunglasses thinking he's cool. He makes me sick. Fuck Joe Biden!
I Luv Emall
09-11-21, 10:57
Joe says "Trust me, I know what's best for your children, go get your kids vaccinated, or we'll soon force you to do so...".
https://summit.news/2021/09/10/study-finds-teenage-boys-6-times-more-likely-to-suffer-heart-problems-from-vaccine-than-be-hospitalized-by-covid/
Meanwhile, studies from the the University of California tell you that you should not trust the senile fool, and that the risk of complications from the vaccines is anywhere from 4. 3 x to 22 x higher than the risk of complications from Covid for teenage boys. Again, it's all about risk assessment and not a one-size-fits-all approach that this brainless administration advocates.
Aaron Hamlet
09-11-21, 11:20
We are all (supposedly) adults here and calling each other names is not going to help.
You are either simply ignorant (intentionally or not and / or stupid (again, either intentionally or not), but you are certainly arrogant and dangerous, whether to yourself, those around you, or the general population at large.
And that IS intentional on your part.
I can no longer be bothered to even read your posts.Go change your Depends old man. You smell like piss.
BlackTonyStark
09-11-21, 12:26
Been wondering what kind of supplements you guys use to help with energy and libido. Not that I have a problem with getting my stick working but I'm noticing that I'm not having the same energy levels throughout the day and then when its time to monger I'm a little tired. I recently started a nice regiment of maca root and alligator pepper tea. Also take cinnamon as well to keep the urinary tract flushing regularly. You gents using anything?
Go change your Depends old man. You smell like piss.I mention ignorance, which is a lack of knowledge; stupidity, which is a lack of mental ability, and arrogance, which is an inability to move off a preconceived position.
You counter with Depends and piss.
I rest my case.
I can't believe the spineless coward senile leader we have, hiding behind his sunglasses thinking he's cool. He makes me sick. Fuck Joe Biden!As I said, I support your ability to do your own research and come to your own opinion. You obviously have and I hope you are happy with the consequences of your decision.
I take it from your post that you are not in favor of President Biden. Having sex with him is not how to deal with your issues; going to the polls is.
Do you mind posting your evidence proving that?Though I really prefer that you take the time to do your own research (from credible sources, please), may I offer the Mayo Clinic website as a good place to start?
https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/coronavirus/in-depth/coronavirus-vaccine/art-20484859
I mention ignorance, which is a lack of knowledge; stupidity, which is a lack of mental ability, and arrogance, which is an inability to move off a preconceived position.
You counter with Depends and piss.
I rest my case.I haven't laughed so hard in a long time. Good post.
I don't name call people pedophiles, I name call you a pedophile because you're weird and creepy and others here have referred to you as same, as a pedophile.Well, if I gave a fuck to what you say, that may really hurt. But since I don't, I could give a shit....lol
DrPornDawger
09-11-21, 20:06
Hey I understand it, it's a job and a career for some.
SB on arrangements want our attention and we pay this abhorrent price.
* give us blue balls and we pay the outrageous subscription fee to get a glimpse of their bodies and pussy.
I try not to get to close to these women, but emotions are hard (no pun intended) to suppress.
Sometimes you find that ATF and fall madly in "Love" (Lust).
When you try to connect a little to get to know them, find out how they got to where they are, sometimes they share.
Hey it's wonderful I got to fuck a beautiful (beauty is in the eye of the beholder), especially when they organically cum, as Baller55's stories are great with his Unicorn. We all have that unicorn, but the reality is they're fucking others as well. We just turn a blind eye.
Well finding out that my ATF has a boyfriend, (I was envious, because he gets to fuck her for "Free") nothing is entirely free because we all have to spend a little here and there.
But Long Story Short, I fucked a woman who has a BF or SO and so what I paid it, as Charlie Sheen said, "I paid her to leave" (LOL). Who would allow their woman to fuck another man for money (rhetorical question).
There was a story on Real Sex from HBO about the Love Hotels in Japan. The husband spends money goes to an escort, while the wife makes money fucking. The wife brings in more money. LOL.
Back to program. She enjoyed it with me (much to our fantasy, not many providers kiss back, and the ones that do are most often times acting the part) which got my endorphins running high and a great big boost to my EGO. Also there are the squirters, even if they make themselves squirt either with their hands or toys or having your fingers and / or dick massaging them. They can't fake that feeling of ecstasy.
So for all fellow mongers here, I enjoy your stories with the K agencies, (The Peppers, Mannies, Aces, and what have you), and the High End Super Expensive Fun Escorts, and the Low to High End Independent Masseuses).
Peace and keep fucking.
As I said, I support your ability to do your own research and come to your own opinion. You obviously have and I hope you are happy with the consequences of your decision.
I take it from your post that you are not in favor of President Biden. Having sex with him is not how to deal with your issues; going to the polls is.Stepping back for a moment and looking at the COVID situation from a coldly political perspective, clearly Biden and the Democrats stand to benefit at the polls if they left the un-vaccinated alone. Since 99% of those dying from COVID are unvaccinated, and since Republicans make up the vast majority of the unvaccinated, this would mean fewer GOP voters in 2022. By the same token, I cannot for the life of me understand why the GOP is not more "pro-vaccine"; the GOP can ill afford to lose any more voters. It seems like the GOP is intent on shooting themselves in the head on this issue.
Aaron Hamlet
09-12-21, 09:48
The inane ramblings of a bewildered old fool on the 20th anniversary of the 9/11 attacks who just drove past nearly one hundred 'Fuck Joe Biden' signs on the route from the airport.
And some wonder why the POTUS didn't give a speech in memory of the 20th anniversary for all those murdered on 9/11?
https://twitter.com/TrumpJew2/status/1436868194342428672?s=20
Aaron Hamlet
09-12-21, 09:52
Stepping back for a moment and looking at the COVID situation from a coldly political perspective, clearly ...Yup. Weird and creepy no matter the topic. Keep away from our children.
LoveARub69
09-12-21, 09:53
The inane ramblings of a bewildered old fool on the 20th anniversary of the 9/11 attacks who drove past nearly one hundred 'Fuck Joe Biden' signs on the route from the airport.
https://twitter.com/TrumpJew2/status/1436868194342428672?s=20Doesn't Biden know that the proper way to commemorate 9/11 is by announcing a fight in Vegas. What's wrong with him? LOL.
HobbyMan51
09-12-21, 10:45
Doesn't Biden know that the proper way to commemorate 9/11 is by announcing a fight in Vegas. What's wrong with him? LOL.Trump was in NYC yesterday at three different locations, spoke at all three and had pictures taken with first responders. The lying dick-faced sack of shit that you voted for made appearances for show only and spoke at none to them, keeping his distance as he typically does. Get your facts straight before you start the usual bloviating bullshit about Trump that you idiotic libs love to do. Yes Trump did get around to announcing at a fight but I suppose you would have preferred him to wear sackcloth and ashes all day and even that would not have been enough for you but then it never is enough for you and your ilk.
Yup. Weird and creepy no matter the topic. Keep away from our children.Well, as they say: It takes one to know one. Bullett described you brilliantly, you are ignorant as you lack knowledge, you are stupid as you lack mental ability and completely arrogant in your inability to move off a preconceived position. Now go outside and play hide and go fu*k yourself! TADA!
Aaron Hamlet
09-12-21, 12:41
I mention ignorance, which is a lack of knowledge; stupidity, which is a lack of mental ability, and arrogance, which is an inability to move off a preconceived position.
You counter with Depends and piss.
I rest my case.The depends and piss comment wasn't a counter. Your timeline is wrong and out of context. You referred to me as stupid, ignorant, arrogant, etc. , weeks or months ago after you had called me a liar and I politely asked you to show how and where I lied. You never did. But instead said this:
We are all (supposedly) adults here and calling each other names is not going to help.
So I read that and think fuck that sanctimonious old man. He's okay with calling others names yet posts name calling isn't going to help? What a condescending old prick. So that is one reason why I posted, not countered, that you smell like piss and need to change your depends. The other reason being that you're 78 and chances are do smell like piss and need to change your depends. It happens. Most of us have/had elderly parents or been around the aged and they have that unappealing musty scent of rot and decay. Right?
The depends and piss comment wasn't a counter. Your timeline is wrong and out of context. You referred to me as stupid, ignorant, arrogant, etc. , weeks or months ago after you had called me a liar and I politely asked you to show how and where I lied. You never did. But instead said this:
So I read that and think fuck that sanctimonious old man. He's okay with calling others names yet posts name calling isn't going to help? What a condescending old prick. So that is one reason why I posted, not countered, that you smell like piss and need to change your depends. The other reason being that you're 78 and chances are do smell like piss and need to change your depends. It happens. Most of us have/had elderly parents or been around the aged and they have that unappealing musty scent of rot and decay. Right?Wrong. You have never determined my age correctly, which is is inconsequential to any possible discussion of COVID or politics. You are free to come and smell me if you need reassurance. I do have concerns about you, either or both of your intelligence or maturity are not yet well developed. Maybe they will improve with time.
Hey I understand it, it's a job and a career for some.
SB on arrangements want our attention and we pay this abhorrent price.
* give us blue balls and we pay the outrageous subscription fee to get a glimpse of their bodies and pussy.
I try not to get to close to these women, but emotions are hard (no pun intended) to suppress.
Sometimes you find that ATF and fall madly in "Love" (Lust).
When you try to connect a little to get to know them, find out how they got to where they are, sometimes they share.
Hey it's wonderful I got to fuck a beautiful (beauty is in the eye of the beholder), especially when they organically cum, as Baller55's stories are great with his Unicorn. We all have that unicorn, but the reality is they're fucking others as well. We just turn a blind eye.
Well finding out that my ATF has a boyfriend, (I was envious, because he gets to fuck her for "Free") nothing is entirely free because we all have to spend a little here and there.
But Long Story Short, I fucked a woman who has a BF or SO and so what I paid it, as Charlie Sheen said, "I paid her to leave" (LOL). Who would allow their woman to fuck another man for money (rhetorical question).
There was a story on Real Sex from HBO about the Love Hotels in Japan. The husband spends money goes to an escort, while the wife makes money fucking. The wife brings in more money. LOL.
Back to program. She enjoyed it with me (much to our fantasy, not many providers kiss back, and the ones that do are most often times acting the part) which got my endorphins running high and a great big boost to my EGO. Also there are the squirters, even if they make themselves squirt either with their hands or toys or having your fingers and / or dick massaging them. They can't fake that feeling of ecstasy.
So for all fellow mongers here, I enjoy your stories with the K agencies, (The Peppers, Mannies, Aces, and what have you), and the High End Super Expensive Fun Escorts, and the Low to High End Independent Masseuses).
Peace and keep fucking.Ah, yes. Finally, a refreshing post about rental pussy concerns instead of the usual drivel about political or COVID shit. Thank you for your attempt to steer this thread back to something of value.
Ah, yes. Finally, a refreshing post about rental pussy concerns instead of the usual drivel about political or COVID shit. Thank you for your attempt to steer this thread back to something of value.Ok, I admit to being one of the targets here. "Rental pussy" is a great and wonderful thing but unfortunately it IS related to COVID which HAS become a political issue.
There are those here who advocate behavior which is harmful to our public health and which are harming efforts to get this pandemic under control.
I, among others, will continue to encourage us to take responsibility for ourselves and our community. If that is drivel, just don't read it.
A recent study from the UK showed a 0. 8% COVID related death rate among vaccinated people.
The similar death rate among non-vaccinated people was 37%. You do the math.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/medical/getting-fully-vaccinated-massively-reduces-your-chance-of-dying-from-covid-19-a-new-real-world-study-suggests/ar-AAOqnG9?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531
Ok, I admit to being one of the targets here. "Rental pussy" is a great and wonderful thing but unfortunately it IS related to COVID which HAS become a political issue.
There are those here who advocate behavior which is harmful to our public health and which are harming efforts to get this pandemic under control.
I, among others, will continue to encourage us to take responsibility for ourselves and our community. If that is drivel, just don't read it.
A recent study from the UK showed a 0. 8% COVID related death rate among vaccinated people.
The similar death rate among non-vaccinated people was 37%. You do the math.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/medical/getting-fully-vaccinated-massively-reduces-your-chance-of-dying-from-covid-19-a-new-real-world-study-suggests/ar-AAOqnG9?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531I wasn't targeting anyone in particular with my post, and certainly not you, just tired of all the stupid drama about politics and vaccinations. I agree with your position on vaccinations and all the data supporting it, but don't agree with everyone here continuing to beat a long-dead horse. That goes for both sides. Trying to convince a stubborn fool to get vaccinated is like trying to teach a fart not to stink. Can't be done, so why bother?
This thread began life so guys could b!tch about pussy issues, but has morphed into something far removed. The relationship between COVID and pussy rental is minimal, so I suggest this thread get back to what it was originally intended to be: pussy-focused.
My neighbor died last week in a nursing home. She was having heart pain for over a week, but they can't find any hospital to take her because the hospitals are packed with Corvid people. Time for unvaccinated Corvid infected people to give some hospital space to people with other critical health issues.
My neighbor died last week in a nursing home. She was having heart pain for over a week, but they can't find any hospital to take her because the hospitals are packed with Corvid people. Time for unvaccinated Corvid infected people to give some hospital space to people with other critical health issues.My sympathies for your loss. This is occurring all across the country, but it hits harder when it happens in your family, circle of friends, or neighborhood.
Most of us saw this coming and did everything within our power to get as many people vaccinated as quickly as possible. This sort of thing was preventable, but it is far too easy to refuse the vaccination, knowing that medical technology will save your sorry ass should you get sick.
To hell with the effect you are having on others! Denying hospital beds to non-vaccinated Covid patients sounds like a good idea, but it goes against the moral ideals of America, so we will not and should not do it.
But it sure is tempting.
I Luv Emall
09-19-21, 00:42
I'm sorry for your loss as well, but you'll have to excuse my skepticism as to the real root cause. Just as we heard about the overflowing Oklahoma ER rooms from Ivermectin poisoning, which turned out to be completely false, we're also hearing about falsification of statistics and attempts to shame the unvaccinated:
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/09/new-missouri-covid-whistleblower-hospitals-lying-public-covid-can-prove/
As I've said before, there's clearly a concerted effort of disinformation, deceit, and censorship going on in the effort to further an agenda. The problem is once you start down that path, you lose all credibility and trust, so even when you say things that are true, you can't be trusted to be believed.
For ILoveHo, I'm not doubting your particular story or what you've been told, but none of us can possibly know the true stats behind that.
For Bullet, I'll repeat, you really need to eduate yourself further. Your Mayo link was almost laughable, with its claim to the vaccines helping to stop the spread of Covid totally unsupported. As I said before, just stating something doesn't make it so- you have to provide facts and a basis, and they did neither. Furthermore, the other statistics they provided regarding the vaccines were outdated and contradicted by the recent data and studies done in Israel and the UK, and even provided by the vaccine manufacturers themselves. You act like you're so knowledgeable and in a position to judge everyone, but in fact, you're quite ignorant on the matter and need to quit acting so pious and self-righteous.
My sympathies for your loss. This is occurring all across the country, but it hits harder when it happens in your family, circle of friends, or neighborhood.
Most of us saw this coming and did everything within our power to get as many people vaccinated as quickly as possible. This sort of thing was preventable, but it is far too easy to refuse the vaccination, knowing that medical technology will save your sorry ass should you get sick.
To hell with the effect you are having on others! Denying hospital beds to non-vaccinated Covid patients sounds like a good idea, but it goes against the moral ideals of America, so we will not and should not do it.
But it sure is tempting.
So the Mayo Clinic is not a reliable source of information, but the "Gateway Pundit" is? You cannot be serious.
Try a quick experiment. Go to your local hospital and check to see how many beds are being occupied by Covid patients and how many of them showed up unvaccinated. Then determine for yourself if a bed will be available for you or a loved one if / when the need arises.
Call me sanctimonious all you like. I just happen to believe that helping people avoid the virus in the first place should be our number one priority and that having hospital beds available for those with breakthrough cases should be a close second.
You seem to believe in neither, which I find to be a dangerous and arrogant state of mind. Hopefully it will not take someone you love dying of the disease to wake you up.
So the Mayo Clinic is not a reliable source of information, but the "Gateway Pundit" is? You cannot be serious.Yep, he's delusionary serious! The Gateway Pundit is an American far-right fake news website and is known for publishing falsehoods, hoaxes, and conspiracy theories. Founded by Jim Hoft in 2004, The Gateway Pundit expanded from a one-person enterprise into a multi-employee operation that is supported primarily by advertising revenue.
So the Mayo Clinic is not a reliable source of information, but the "Gateway Pundit" is? You cannot be serious.
Try a quick experiment. Go to your local hospital and check to see how many beds are being occupied by Covid patients and how many of them showed up unvaccinated. Then determine for yourself if a bed will be available for you or a loved one if / when the need arises.
Call me sanctimonious all you like. I just happen to believe that helping people avoid the virus in the first place should be our number one priority and that having hospital beds available for those with breakthrough cases should be a close second.
You seem to believe in neither, which I find to be a dangerous and arrogant state of mind. Hopefully it will not take someone you love dying of the disease to wake you up.This guy wasn't too happy about getting Covid either: https://www.cnn.com/2021/09/19/health/florida-man-inspires-covid-vaccinations/index.html.
I'm sorry for your loss as well, but you'll have to excuse my skepticism as to the real root cause. Just as we heard about the overflowing Oklahoma ER rooms from Ivermectin poisoning, which turned out to be completely false, we're also hearing about falsification of statistics and attempts to shame the unvaccinated:
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/09/new-missouri-covid-whistleblower-hospitals-lying-public-covid-can-prove/
As I've said before, there's clearly a concerted effort of disinformation, deceit, and censorship going on in the effort to further an agenda. The problem is once you start down that path, you lose all credibility and trust, so even when you say things that are true, you can't be trusted to be believed.
For ILoveHo, I'm not doubting your particular story or what you've been told, but none of us can possibly know the true stats behind that.
For Bullet, I'll repeat, you really need to eduate yourself further. Your Mayo link was almost laughable, with its claim to the vaccines helping to stop the spread of Covid totally unsupported. As I said before, just stating something doesn't make it so- you have to provide facts and a basis, and they did neither. Furthermore, the other statistics they provided regarding the vaccines were outdated and contradicted by the recent data and studies done in Israel and the UK, and even provided by the vaccine manufacturers themselves. You act like you're so knowledgeable and in a position to judge everyone, but in fact, you're quite ignorant on the matter and need to quit acting so pious and self-righteous.True fact: The "unvaccinated" make up over 80% of the hospitalizations and deaths from COVID. There is no disputing this fact!
I Luv Emall
09-20-21, 13:57
So the Mayo Clinic is not a reliable source of information, but the "Gateway Pundit" is? The Mayo Clinic is not a reliable source of information when it posts outdated and unsubstantiated information about the vaccines that is clearly in conflict with information provided by the vaccine manufacturers themselves- that's right. As for the Gateway Pundit, I'll admit to taking what I find there with a grain of salt, but unlike the claims of the Oklahoma ER rooms flooded with Ivermectin overdoses, I have not seen any refutations of the claims made in that article by MBMC. Instead, they have refused to comment despite repeated requests. I think that speaks volumes about their credibility, and the credibility of this particular story.
Try a quick experiment. Go to your local hospital and check to see how many beds are being occupied by Covid patients and how many of them showed up unvaccinated. Then determine for yourself if a bed will be available for you or a loved one if / when the need arises.How about you try a quick experiment? Go to your local hospital, and see how many of those beds occupied by Covid patients are comprised of those that are overweight and / or have underlying conditions, or are 80 years old. Then get on your high horse and tell them how they should have thought of others and lost weight and stopped smoking, etc so they could make room for others in those hospital beds before getting Covid and taking up space. And that goes for both the unvaccinated and the vaccinated. I'm in none of those categories, and while I won't claim it could never happen to me, I do believe the percentages are miniscule, and the risk assessment for my long term health favors non-vaccination at this point in my life. I might feel differently later, when more data is available and different vaccines have become available, but that's my decision to make, and I won't be shamed or bullied into it by you or anyone else.
Call me sanctimonious all you like. I just happen to believe that helping people avoid the virus in the first place should be our number one priority and that having hospital beds available for those with breakthrough cases should be a close second.
You seem to believe in neither, which I find to be a dangerous and arrogant state of mind. No, you seem to believe you know everything about the Coronavirus and these vaccines, and me, when in fact you know very little about any. As they say, there are 3 kinds of people 1) those who don't know and don't know they don't know; 2) those who don't know and do know they don't know; and 3) those who know and know how much they still don't know. You are 1), and as any good scientist / engineer knows, that's the most ignorant / dangerous kind of person.
You are indeed sanctimonious, and a hypocrite as well. You all me arrogant, yet you presume to know what I believe in, without apparenlty even bothering to read my posts. Or perhaps you're just not able to comprehend them? I have talked about this administration's failure to educate on Covid prevention (and treatment) measures, but you're so brainwashed and unable to think for yourself that you can only hear the message that your leader has instilled in your tiny brain (vaccine, Vaccine, VACCINE. Nothing else matters, I must shame all others into this same mindset, regardless of their age, health, or circumstances). You think I have to accept your beliefs? I don't think so. That is the definition of arrogant and dangerous, Mr. Hitler. That is the direction this administration has chosen, and why its approval rating is at all time lows. If you weren't so arrogant I would actually feel sorry for you and your inability to think outside your tiny little box.
Hopefully it will not take someone you love dying of the disease to wake you up. Since you're challenging me on this front (and don't think I haven't already given this plenty of thought and consideration), let me try to help you stretch your mind a little, and play your own little game. How will you feel if we find out in a few years that these vaccines are causing long-term health issues? There are several possibilities here, but we don't have to get into the details, let's just play a hypothetical here for my benefit. It could be they lead to health complications down the road for the masses, or perhaps your grandchildren are infertile, or their immune systems are compromised against future variants or diseases. How are you going to feel then, after you've laid your guilt trip on these people and played God and passed your judgement down on them? What if one of them has an adverse reaction to the vaccine and is severely disabled or killed? Hopefully it will not take that guilt on your conscience to have consideration for others and stop being so judgemental.
It could also very well prove out that these vaccines are contributing to the proliferation and spread of the mutuation and variants by their leaky nature (something many notable scientists and virologist believe- I've given a list of them in the past here, including Nobel prize winners). Many more would speak out, except they are censored and blacklisted the minute they do, like France's long-time vaccine policy chief (and former Vice-President of the European Advisory Group to the World Health Organisation, among a plethora of other impressive credentials):
https://www.ukcolumn.org/video/frances-long-time-vaccine-policy-chief-covid-policy-is-completely-stupid-and-unethical
Unfortunately, healthy debate is not possible because of people like you.
I Luv Emall
09-20-21, 14:02
Yep, he's delusionary serious! The Gateway Pundit is an American far-right fake news website and is known for publishing falsehoods, hoaxes, and conspiracy theories. Founded by Jim Hoft in 2004, The Gateway Pundit expanded from a one-person enterprise into a multi-employee operation that is supported primarily by advertising revenue.Can you debunk that story? I haven't seen any refutation of it by the hospital, who refuses comment, despite repeated requests. The whisteblower provided internal graphs from the hospital admin that contradicted what was presented to the press, and the hospital refuses to comment. Why?
Who's delusionary? Back up your claim and I'll stand corrected.
I Luv Emall
09-20-21, 14:10
This guy wasn't too happy about getting Covid either: https://www.cnn.com/2021/09/19/health/florida-man-inspires-covid-vaccinations/index.html.So what's your point?
This guy wasn't too happy after getting the vaccine either:
https://nypost.com/2021/04/15/man-partially-paralyzed-unable-to-talk-after-jj-vaccine/
And neither were any of these people, who surprised this TV station who was actually soliciting for people that had lost loved ones to unvaccinated deaths, but were instead flooded with vaccine horror stories:
https://www.wnd.com/2021/09/4945913/
Again, this is not a one-size-fits-all, and just because you think it's right for you doesn't make it right for me.
I'm happy to follow your advice and drop this if everyone else can do the same.
I Luv Emall
09-20-21, 14:21
True fact: The "unvaccinated" make up over 80% of the hospitalizations and deaths from COVID. There is no disputing this fact! True fact- you're an idiot, and you prove it once again by failing to note the statistics you showed encompassed the time period from Jan-June, the majority of which vaccines were not even available for. Of course most of those people were going to be unvaccinated, ignoramus. You should stick to your toilet humor. At least you were smart enough to save your money and chicken out on the bet.
Nevertheless, I have repeatedly stated that I don't doubt the vaccines' symptomatic effectiveness. Some people here have serious reading comprehension issues.
The Mayo Clinic is not a reliable source of information....My friend, you have simply got to take off that tin foil hat and join the real world.
Research does not mean finding a blog that enforces your existing beliefs and offering it as proof. Your desire to refute the scientific community in case something unforeseen happens in the future is also without merit. People are dying now and vaccines are keeping most of the rest of us alive. They would keep even more alive if the percentage of those vaccinated were even higher. As for the hospital bed crisis, you must work hard to find information that refutes it.
I fear you are a lost cause. I hope it serves you well and that you don't have to deal with effects of Covid either personally or within your friends and family. Good luck. I truly believe that you are going to need it.
I Luv Emall
09-20-21, 18:18
My friend, you have simply got to take off that tin foil hat and join the real world.
Research does not mean finding a blog that enforces your existing beliefs and offering it as proof. Your desire to refute the scientific community in case something unforeseen happens in the future is also without merit. People are dying now and vaccines are keeping most of the rest of us alive. They would keep even more alive if the percentage of those vaccinated were even higher. As for the hospital bed crisis, you must work hard to find information that refutes it.
I fear you are a lost cause. I hope it serves you well and that you don't have to deal with effects of Covid either personally or within your friends and family. Good luck. I truly believe that you are going to need it.Just like most of your ilk, you wouldn't know Science if it bit you in the ass. Again, your inability to comprehend is apparent. It doesn't bother you that the "facts" that your link from the Mayo clinic conflict with the stats & claims from the vaccine manufacturers themselves? That's not finding some blog, that's going directly to the source. Your "research" consist of reading a statement and then asserting it's true, with no supporting evidence. Sorry, that doesn't qualify, yet you somehow deem that as reputable. And I'm the one wearing the tin foil hat? I think you need to learn something about research, but I can tell you have no background in that whatsoever. I've made my living in research, something I seriously doubt you can claim.
Instead, you keep repeating falsehoods without any proof, as if saying it enough times will make it true. It worked well enough on you, but not everyone is as gullible as you are. I would repeat my request for you to show me any tangible evidence that the vaccines prevent the spread of Covid, but you're a waste of time. Pointing to a statement that makes that claim does not constitute proof in itself. There has to be documentation to substantiate that claim. You've provided absolutely squat.
I don't fear, I KNOW you are a lost cause, because you are unable to think for yourself. Hell, you've been unable to understand my point from the beginning, even though I've been very clear in my reasoning. You're so dogmatic and insistent on pushing your god's (Biden's) agenda, you can't understand anything except piousness and shaming. The truth is, you're ignorant, but you think you're smart. Just reading or hearing something and mindlessly parroting it does not equal critical thinking skills.
I've had both friends and family with Covid. I'm sure you'll say I've been lucky, but I've known none that have had any complications from it, and some that have described it as less than a cold. I'm sure the latter is uncommon, but I'm also sure the serious complications are quite uncommon for those that are not overweight, without underlying conditions, or quite elderly. You're in that latter category, so maybe you should be worried. Good for you, worry for yourself and for your loved ones. Don't worry for me- I'm taking preventive measures to protect myself and I have a treatment plan in place should I contract Covid. Can you say the same? Or are you solely reliant on your vaccine to save you? I've thought the risks through and I'm prepared. Why all you vaccine pushers assume others are incapable of this is beyond me.
I will say it- I am a lost cause for you. You will not convert me, you will not shame me, you will not guilt me. Now, will you stop with your sanctimonious preaching? Just like the polls are showing, if anything, this is only strengthening the resistance. Give it a rest already.
True fact- you're an idiot, and you prove it once again by failing to note the statistics you showed encompassed the time period from Jan-June, the majority of which vaccines were not even available for. Of course most of those people were going to be unvaccinated, ignoramus. You should stick to your toilet humor. At least you were smart enough to save your money and chicken out on the bet.
Nevertheless, I have repeatedly stated that I don't doubt the vaccines' symptomatic effectiveness. Some people here have serious reading comprehension issues.This is really rich coming from a fool whose news sources are a website known for publishing falsehoods, hoaxes and conspiracy theories. Dumbass get a clue..lol
I Luv Emall
09-20-21, 20:05
This is really rich coming from a fool whose news sources are a website known for publishing falsehoods, hoaxes and conspiracy theories. Dumbass get a clue..lolWhat's rich is you claiming a statistic as indisputable, putting up your data to back it up, and being too stupid to even interpret that data to realize how easily disputed it is. Now that is STOOPID! I'll say it again, just reading something and believing it without any critical thinking doesn't take any IQ.
Why don't you point out the falsehood in what I posted? I quite easily did that in what you posted. Now who's the dumbass?
You're the proven dumbass once again, and even though I've given you a chance to prove otherwise, you're too chicken shit to do so. You should just keep your mouth shut, because as they say, better to keep your mouth shut and be thought a fool than to open it and be proven one. That's what happens every time you speak. Now go back to your toilet humor [Deleted by Admin].
What's rich is you claiming a statistic as indisputable, putting up your data to back it up, and being too stupid to even interpret that data to realize how easily disputed it is. Now that is STOOPID! I'll say it again, just reading something and believing it without any critical thinking doesn't take any IQ.
Why don't you point out the falsehood in what I posted? I quite easily did that in what you posted. Now who's the dumbass?
You're the proven dumbass once again, and even though I've given you a chance to prove otherwise, you're too chicken shit to do so.You may believe what you're posting is true but you are, perhaps unwittingly, constantly posting misinformation and perhaps intentional disinformation. You may not be lying, per se, but you do not post the truth because you have fallen so far down the extreme right-wing conspiracy theory rabbit hole. That is not an honest mistake or a simple error. Rather that is a choice you have made so you get no absolution. You are not stupid but you believe stupid things.
What's rich is you claiming a statistic as indisputable, putting up your data to back it up, and being too stupid to even interpret that data to realize how easily disputed it is. Now that is STOOPID! I'll say it again, just reading something and believing it without any critical thinking doesn't take any IQ.
Why don't you point out the falsehood in what I posted? I quite easily did that in what you posted. Now who's the dumbass?
You're the proven dumbass once again, and even though I've given you a chance to prove otherwise, you're too chicken shit to do so. You should just keep your mouth shut, because as they say, better to keep your mouth shut and be thought a fool than to open it and be proven one.Please go back to your henhouse Chicken Little. As usual you spew so much BS, no one takes your cackling seriously.
I Luv Emall
09-21-21, 10:51
You may believe what you're posting is true but you are, perhaps unwittingly, constantly posting misinformation and perhaps intentional disinformation. You may not be lying, per se, but you do not post the truth because you have fallen so far down the extreme right-wing conspiracy theory rabbit hole. How about you put up or shut up? So far, I've debunked several of the claimed "reputable" sources and stated facts here as clearly fraudulent, and there's no denying that. Yet you go on about me putting up disinformation and questionable sources, but are unable to put up any facts that point to that. So put up or shut up, as the irony and hypocrisy are killing me. I've put up sources and facts for everything I've posted, and backed it up. You haven't. You've only made claims, and repeat over and over that what I say isn't true, and expect that to go unchallenged. Well, I've challenged you to prove it multiple times, and you've failed to rise to that challenge. Why? Because you can't.
That is not an honest mistake or a simple error. Rather that is a choice you have made so you get no absolution.
Spoken like the arrogant, self-righteous, judgemental administration that is running this country now. What makes you think I want your absolution, or that you're in any kind of position to give it? As if you're God. Go fuck yourself.
I Luv Emall
09-21-21, 11:04
Please go back to your henhouse Chicken Little. As usual you spew so much BS, no one takes your cackling seriously.
Thanks, now go back to your henhouse Chicken Little. Nobody takes your cackling seriously.Oh wow, I think I see a pattern here. Are you two suckbuddies, or are you really the same person? Funny how you came running to his defense with nearly the exact same verbiage, hmmm.
Whether you're the same person or not, it's clear you have the same IQ. I'll extend the bet and even let both of you combine your test scores together to best mine, assuming there's actually 2 of you that will show up.
P.S. - It didn't escape me that once again you couldn't refute the facts of my point regarding the deceit of the statistics provided, and that there were no vaccinated to account for during the majority of the stated time period. This is from your trusted CNN which you swallow down at face value brainlessly, and yet you question my sources, which you still can't refute- LOL!
Parrot Scope
09-21-21, 15:57
Wooow Joe Biden is out of control. Did you see the horsemen with whips that are rounding up Haitian immigrants?
So much for mr humane Biden. If this was happening under Trumps administration, there would be hell to pay!
Trump 2024 please.
Bring back strength to America!
Also look what is happening in Afghanistan now. Talisman has full control and then they will be acquiring nukes.
Next they will ally with Russia and North Korea. Then its over for good ol USA.
Uncle Sam why have you betrayed us?
I will say it- I am a lost cause for you.Amen. I have long since stopped trying to convert your views. That would be the very definition of a lost cause. I have simply wished you well and given my hopes that you and your loved ones remain healthy.
I have nothing else to say to you.
But I will not sit idly by while you attempt to endanger the public health with your carefully researched "facts" that you invariably get from extreme right wing blogs. People might actually believe this crap and will suffer because of that.
They need to hear the other side of the story and I will tell it to them. What they decide to do after that is up to them. You may continue to call me names if it makes you feel better about yourself or if you think it makes your argument stronger. I don't play that game.
TooHotForYou
09-21-21, 16:47
Oh wow, I think I see a pattern here. Are you two suckbuddies, or are you really the same person? Funny how you came running to his defense with nearly the exact same verbiage, hmmm.
Whether you're the same person or not, it's clear you have the same IQ. I'll extend the bet and even let both of you combine your test scores together to best mine, assuming there's actually 2 of you that will show up.
P.S. - It didn't escape me that once again you couldn't refute the facts of my point regarding the deceit of the statistics provided, and that there were no vaccinated to account for during the majority of the stated time period. This is from your trusted CNN which you swallow down at face value brainlessly, and yet you question my sources, which you still can't refute- LOL!God you never know on this forum. If Nuguy and Sgtsoros are the same person, then Aaron Hamlet is off the hook.
blah blah blah I've debunked everything with my dumb shit blah blah
Spoken like the arrogant, self-righteous, judgemental administration that is running this country now. What makes you think I want your absolution, or that you're in any kind of position to give it? As if you're God. Go fuck yourself.I'd say that part about 'god' is indicative of your problem. You've always believed stupid shit like supernatural beings exist. It leads to believing more irrational shit. Why do you need science when you have your imaginary friend? Here's the dipshit proof that it's pervasive with you simple minded fucks:
Federal Govt Whistleblower Goes Public with Secret Recordings: Government Doesnt Want to Show theVaccine is Full of Sh*t; Shove Adverse Effect Reporting Under the Mat | Project Veritas
https://www.projectveritas.com/news/federal-govt-whistleblower-goes-public-with-secret-recordings-government/
Some of the stupid shit from the above cuck manual:
OKeefe: But you put your faith in God.
OMalley: Amen. At the end of the day, its about your health, and you can never get that back -- and about your freedom, and about living in a peaceful society, and Im like, no. No. This is the hill that I will die on.
Why does this read like a Right Wing Anti-Vaxxer fan fiction? Because it's their fever dream.
I Luv Emall
09-21-21, 19:00
Amen. I have long since stopped trying to convert your views. That would be the very definition of a lost cause. I have simply wished you well and given my hopes that you and your loved ones remain healthy.
I have nothing else to say to you.Thanks for your well wishes, truly appreciated. If you had started out with that instead of your shaming and guilt trip, you would have gotten the same in return from me, and perhaps we could have had an adult discussion. Although I doubt it, because it's clear you never really listened to what I had to say about the vaccines at all. And that you're unwilling to even consider the possibilities that many notable & respected scientists and virologists have raised about the potential long-term problems from these vaccines demonstrates to me that you're the one that's not rational. I have never claimed to know for certain the long-term effects of these vaccines and my post history states that, but I know for certain that those possibilities exist, and I can certainly acknowledge that. To turn a blind eye to that, especially with the supporting data that's available, is not rational.
But I will not sit idly by while you attempt to endanger the public health with your carefully researched "facts" that you invariably get from extreme right wing blogs. People might actually believe this crap and will suffer because of that.The only crap that I've seen put up and debunked are the false claims made in support of the vaccines, and there have been quite a few of those that I've called out and proven false. I've acknowledged the vaccines have symptomatic effectiveness, so I haven't claimed they're all bad, but to totally whitewash things and make claims that they do things they don't (such as prevent the spread), or that these vaccines don't have more deaths associated to them than all other vaccines combined in the past 40 years would be a lie. People should be informed truthfully and should know what they're putting in their bodies.
I keep seeing claims about falsehoods I've put up, but every time I ask someone to point to one, and to substantiate those claims, I'm met with complete silence. I wonder why that is? Again, just repeatedly saying something doesn't make it true. And you're lying again by saying I've only posted stuff from right-wing blogs. I've posted from peer-reviewed articles & studies, from data from studies from the UK and Israel, from the CDC's own VAERS data, etc. Etc. But of course, all of that is "extreme and radical", because it doesn't support your narrative that the vaccines are perfect and solve all our problems. It is unfortunately true that foreign and conservative sources are the only ones that will dare to speak the truth and say anything that's anti-establishment, and this country is suffering because of that. I'm not sure what happened to Freedom of Speech in this country, but we sure don't have it now.
They need to hear the other side of the story and I will tell it to them. What they decide to do after that is up to them. .Oh, that's a laugh. As if that's not all they hear all day, every day, because everything else that's not pro-vaccine is censored out. What alternate reality are you living in? Give me a break. You're the one shining beacon in the darkness that is telling the truth about the vaccines. Oh, where would the people go if they weren't getting the truth from Bullett? LOL. Seriously, come on man. You're exactly right though, they need to hear the other side of the story, but they're not getting that, and this administration and the media, and people like you are doing their best to make sure of that.
You may continue to call me names if it makes you feel better about yourself or if you think it makes your argument stronger. I don't play that game.Oh, yes you do. You look down on others and call them selfish and try to shame them and guilt them and hold yourself above them because they don't agree with you. Even now, you're playing Mr. Holier than thou when you've been just as guilty of fanning the flames as anyone. Look back at your posts and see how you think someone would react to you in person if you talked to them that way.
Let's have this conversation in a couple of years when the effects of these vaccines are clearer, and maybe we'll have different perspectives. Who knows, maybe it'll be me, but at least I've considered that. Have you considered that it might be you? It sure doesn't seem like it.
I Luv Emall
09-21-21, 19:05
I'd say that part about 'god' is indicative of your problem. You've always believed stupid shit like supernatural beings exist. It leads to believing more irrational shit. That's why you're going to burn in hell, and I'm going to laugh like hell. LOL.
Oh wow, I think I see a pattern here. Are you two suckbuddies, or are you really the same person? Funny how you came running to his defense with nearly the exact same verbiage, hmmm.
Whether you're the same person or not, it's clear you have the same IQ. I'll extend the bet and even let both of you combine your test scores together to best mine, assuming there's actually 2 of you that will show up.
P.S. - It didn't escape me that once again you couldn't refute the facts of my point regarding the deceit of the statistics provided, and that there were no vaccinated to account for during the majority of the stated time period. This is from your trusted CNN which you swallow down at face value brainlessly, and yet you question my sources, which you still can't refute- LOL!All one uninformed moron's opinion. Please research the true facts from an authentic medical source, not a far right conservative blog spewing conspiratorial BS 24/7. Here's a true fact and not in dispute within the medical / scientific community, most people now hospitalized and dying from COVID are from the pool of unvaccinated COVIDidiots.
Aaron Hamlet
09-21-21, 20:15
So much idiocy and deception in this latest thread by the cadre of simulation dwellers who suffer from some long term trauma which they're too frightened to face. So the damage grows and festers in their psyche forcing them to delve deeper into the simulation, to deceive themselves and others in order to protect themselves from the dark truths within. It's Psych 101. Roger's a perfect example.
Some of the stupid shit from the above cuck manual:
OKeefe: But you put your faith in God.
OMalley: Amen. At the end of the day, its about your health, and you can never get that back -- and about your freedom, and about living in a peaceful society, and Im like, no. No. This is the hill that I will die on.
Why does this read like a Right Wing Anti-Vaxxer fan fiction? Because it's their fever dream.This is what preceded O'Keefe's question above. "But you put your faith in God? ".
OMalley: "I'm not afraid of blowing the whistle "because my faith lies in God and not man. You know, like what kind of person would I be if I knew all of this -- this is evil at the highest level. You have the FDA, you have the CDC, that are both supposed to be protecting us, but they are under the government, and everything that we've done so far is unscientific. ".
But Roger attempts to deceive and frame her as a 'cuck' and anti-vaxer. She's not. She's a single mother, a RN who works for the Feds and is paid well with great benefits. She's risking alot which is why after being asked by O'Keefe that the reason she's not afraid of losing it all by coming forward is because her faith is in God she replies, "Amen. At the end of the day, its about your health, and you can never get that back -- and about your freedom, and about living in a peaceful society, and I'm like, no. No. This is the hill that I will die on.
This is from the exchange at the end of the video:
Jodi O'Malley, Insider and Registered Nurse, USA Department of Health and Human Services: "The COVID vaccine is "not doing what it's purpose was. ".
O'Malley: "I've seen dozens of people come in with adverse reactions. ".
O'Malley: "If we government are not gathering COVID vaccine data and reporting it, then how are we going to say that this is safe and approved for use?
O'Malley: I'm not afraid of blowing the whistle "because my faith lies in God and not man. You know, like what kind of person would I be if I knew all of this -- this is evil at the highest level. You have the FDA, you have the CDC, that are both supposed to be protecting us, but they are under the government, and everything that we've done so far is unscientific. ".
O'Malley: "At the end of the day, it's about your health, and you can never get that back -- and about your freedom, and about living in a peaceful society, and I'm like, 'no. ' No. This is the hill that I will die on. ".
https://www.projectveritas.com/news/federal-govt-whistleblower-goes-public-with-secret-recordings-government/
I Luv Emall
09-21-21, 20:20
All one uninformed moron's opinion. Please research the true facts from an authentic medical source, not a far right conservative blog spewing conspiratorial BS 24/7. Here's a true fact and not in dispute within the medical / scientific community, most people now hospitalized and dying from COVID are from the pool of unvaccinated COVIDidiots.Says the pedophile who's the recognized forum dunce weirdo, afraid to try to raise his standing and prove his IQ because he knows he can't. So he continually shows his stupidity and creepiness, and tries to appear intelligent by quoting things he clearly doesn't even understand, because he's too STOOPID. So he creates alter-egos and suckbuddies to try to reaffirm his image of himself, which is in the toilet, which is the only thing he does understand.
Aaron Hamlet
09-21-21, 20:51
there were no vaccinated to account for during the majority of the stated time period.
Oh wow, I think I see a pattern here. Are you two suckbuddies, or are you really the same person? Funny how you came running to his defense with nearly the exact same verbiage, hmmm. Bingo number one. Chinavirus is seasonal as are all coronavirus', colds, flu's, etc. Winter time is peak time of course. One of the low information mooks on here posted a study that showed in UK 99.5% percent of all deaths were unvaxed. Their time period was Jan to July 2021. What they didn't tell you was that 99% of deaths occurred before 1% was fully vaxed. They only became fully vaxed in spring and summer as deaths plummet just like they do with the flu due to seasonality. What I hear about hospitalizations is, for example, 2 people show up at hospital with chest pains. One's vaxed, the other isn't. Both tested for covid. Both positive. Unvaxed is listed admtted for Covid symptoms. Vaxed is listed as admitted for chest pains. With all these lies and bullshit, wonder what's going to happen this winter when essentially no one is vaxed due to the mutations that occurred from trying to vax everyone.
As we are now, 75% of adults vaccinated according to NYT. Combined with natural immunity, CDC says at least 80% have some immunity to Covid. Those should be herd immunity numbers. Instead, August 2021 had about 3 million more cases and 600+ more deaths than August 2020. Something ain't right.
And, '98% of everyone over 65 in Maine is at least partially vaccinated, 93% are fully vaccinated, yet hospitalizations in that age group are as high as they were last winter when none were vaccinated. '.
But, but it's the booster that will save us. I don't think so. From the NY Times: 'Researchers in Israel reported that a third dose of the Pfizer-BioNTech Covid vaccine can enhance protection in adults older than 60 for at least 12 days a result that is unsurprising, experts said, and does not indicate long-term benefit. ' So a booster every two weeks until you die from mRNA spike proteins induced blood clots.
Bingo number 2: I said similar about Soros and NuGuy maybe 2 years ago. Not suckbuddies but I PM'd Nuguy asking f he and Soros were fucking and if so I saw him, NuGuy as the bottom. I never got a reply.
Hmmm, looks like we have a new tag-team of butt-fuckers named tweedledumb and tweedledumber. Damn, the two of you spew so much bullshit, I don't know if I should offer you a breath mint or some toilet paper. Here's a hint, in order to insult me, I first have to value your opinion, which I don't. TADA!
Bingo number one. Chinavirus is seasonal as are all coronavirus', colds, flu's, etc. Winter time is peak time of course. One of the low information mooks on here posted a study that showed in UK 99.5% percent of all deaths were unvaxed. Their time period was Jan to July 2021. What they didn't tell you was that 99% of deaths occurred before 1% was fully vaxed. They only became fully vaxed in spring and summer as deaths plummet just like they do with the flu due to seasonality. What I hear about hospitalizations is, for example, 2 people show up at hospital with chest pains. One's vaxed, the other isn't. Both tested for covid. Both positive. Unvaxed is listed admtted for Covid symptoms. Vaxed is listed as admitted for chest pains. With all these lies and bullshit, wonder what's going to happen this winter when essentially no one is vaxed due to the mutations that occurred from trying to vax everyone.
As we are now, 75% of adults vaccinated according to NYT. Combined with natural immunity, CDC says at least 80% have some immunity to Covid. Those should be herd immunity numbers. Instead, August 2021 had about 3 million more cases and 600+ more deaths than August 2020. Something ain't right.
And, '98% of everyone over 65 in Maine is at least partially vaccinated, 93% are fully vaccinated, yet hospitalizations in that age group are as high as they were last winter when none were vaccinated. '.
But, but it's the booster that will save us. I don't think so. From the NY Times: 'Researchers in Israel reported that a third dose of the Pfizer-BioNTech Covid vaccine can enhance protection in adults older than 60 for at least 12 days a result that is unsurprising, experts said, and does not indicate long-term benefit. ' So a booster every two weeks until you die from mRNA spike proteins induced blood clots.
Bingo number 2: I said similar about Soros and NuGuy maybe 2 years ago. Not suckbuddies but I PM'd Nuguy asking f he and Soros were fucking and if so I saw him, NuGuy as the bottom. I never got a reply.
Says the pedophile who's the recognized forum dunce weirdo, afraid to try to raise his standing and prove his IQ because he knows he can't. So he continually shows his stupidity and creepiness, and tries to appear intelligent by quoting things he clearly doesn't even understand, because he's too STOOPID. So he creates alter-egos and suckbuddies to try to reaffirm his image of himself, which is in the toilet, which is the only thing he does understand.
How about you put up or shut up? So far, I've debunked several of the claimed "reputable" sources and stated facts here as clearly fraudulent, and there's no denying that.
https://youtu.be/ztVMib1T4T4
Yeah No. 😂.
I Luv Emall
09-21-21, 21:50
https://youtu.be/ztVMib1T4T4
Yeah No. 😂.Yeah, yeah. What a short memory you have-
...Rabbit being called out about posting bullshit fraudulent story on ER rooms overflowing from Ivermectin overdoses.. .
Again, it's the vaxx-pushers constantly posting bullshit information.
I Luv Emall
09-21-21, 21:56
Hmmm, looks like we have a new tag-team of butt-fuckers named tweedledum and tweedledumber. Damn, the two of you spew so much bullshit, I don't know if I should offer you a breath mint or some toilet paper. Here's a hint, in order to insult me, I first have to value your opinion, which I don't. TADA!True to form, back to your standard toilet paper joke. What, do you have a 2-joke rotation between chicken little and the breath mint / toilet paper jokes? That's all your tiny brain can hold? And everyone knows you're the self-admitted forum dumbass who's too chickenshit to put his money where his mouth is. A coward and a pedophile!
Buttfucker, still talking in tongues again....lol You need some of this, dimwit!
True to form, back to your standard toilet paper joke. What, do you have a 2-joke rotation between chicken little and the breath mint / toilet paper jokes? That's all your tiny brain can hold? And everyone knows you're the self-admitted forum dumbass who's too chickenshit to put his money where his mouth is. A coward and a pedophile!
I Luv Emall
09-21-21, 22:30
Buttfucker, still talking in tongues again....lol You need some of this, dimwit!Anything more than monosyllabic words is talking in tongues to you. The only tongue you understand is your alter-ego Nuguys up your ass.
Anything more than monosyllabic words is talking in tongues to you. The only tongue you understand is your alter-ego Nuguys up your ass.Here's a big YAWN to the Buttfucker! You are the dumbest poster on this board. You question what's in the COVID vaccine but never what's in the food you eat or the air you breath everyday. SMDH!
I Luv Emall
09-22-21, 08:53
Everybody here knows what a dumbass and moron you are. You're the guy we all know that tries too hard to look intelligent, but just makes himself looks stupid in the process. You do it over and over, ad nauseam. I mean seriously, just look at how stupid your statement below is. You are amoeba level, and that's why you're too cowardly to back up your fat mouth. Every time you call someone dumb, I'm going to remind you that you're the STOOPIDEST poster on the board, and you know it, because you're too chickenshit to prove otherwise.
By the way, it's spelled breathe, you pedophile.
Here's a big YAWN to the Buttfucker! You are the dumbest poster on this board. You question what's in the COVID vaccine but never what's in the food you eat or the air you breath everyday. SMDH!
Buttfucker, you insist FIB street ho's suck you "bare" and likely fuck them "bare” as well, yet question what's in the COVID vaccine? SMDH!
Everybody here knows what a dumbass and moron you are. You're the guy we all know that tries too hard to look intelligent, but just makes himself looks stupid in the process. You do it over and over, ad nauseam. I mean seriously, just look at how stupid your statement below is. You are amoeba level, and that's why you're too cowardly to back up your fat mouth. Every time you call someone dumb, I'm going to remind you that you're the STOOPIDEST poster on the board, and you know it, because you're too chickenshit to prove otherwise.
By the way, it's spelled breathe, you pedophile.
I Luv Emall
09-22-21, 11:49
Once again, you demonstrate your inability to read, as I don't frequent FIB you pedophilic fool. Nonetheless, yes, I assess the risk of a BBBJ as much less than the risk of these vaccines. You're like a little child with your failed diversionary tactics. You've obviously recognized the problems I pointed out with your vaccines and the fool I made of you, so now you're trying to call attention elsewhere- "Mommy, mommy, look at this here. Oh, that didn't work. Now look at this over here..."
Go suck your alter-ego's dick, you faggot weirdo. Give it up, imbecile. Everyone knows what a dullard you are. The only way to prove otherwise is to accept my challenge, but you're too cowardly to do that.
Oh, and by the way, plural does not require an apostrophe. Did you even make it through grade school?
Buttfucker, you insist FIB street ho's suck you "bare" and likely fuck them "bare as well, yet question what's in the COVID vaccine? SMDH!
Bingo number one. Chinavirus is seasonal as are all coronavirus', colds, flu's, etc. Winter time is peak time of course. One of the low information mooks on here posted a study that showed in UK 99.5% percent of all deaths were unvaxed. Their time period was Jan to July 2021. What they didn't tell you was that 99% of deaths occurred before 1% was fully vaxed. They only became fully vaxed in spring and summer as deaths plummet just like they do with the flu due to seasonality. What I hear about hospitalizations is, for example, 2 people show up at hospital with chest pains. One's vaxed, the other isn't. Both tested for covid. Both positive. Unvaxed is listed admtted for Covid symptoms. Vaxed is listed as admitted for chest pains. With all these lies and bullshit, wonder what's going to happen this winter when essentially no one is vaxed due to the mutations that occurred from trying to vax everyone.
As we are now, 75% of adults vaccinated according to NYT. Combined with natural immunity, CDC says at least 80% have some immunity to Covid. Those should be herd immunity numbers. Instead, August 2021 had about 3 million more cases and 600+ more deaths than August 2020. Something ain't right.
And, '98% of everyone over 65 in Maine is at least partially vaccinated, 93% are fully vaccinated, yet hospitalizations in that age group are as high as they were last winter when none were vaccinated. '.
But, but it's the booster that will save us. I don't think so. From the NY Times: 'Researchers in Israel reported that a third dose of the Pfizer-BioNTech Covid vaccine can enhance protection in adults older than 60 for at least 12 days a result that is unsurprising, experts said, and does not indicate long-term benefit. ' So a booster every two weeks until you die from mRNA spike proteins induced blood clots.
The CDC indicated as of July 12th, a total of 1,063 fully vaccinated Americans have died of "breakthrough" Covid-19 cases compared to 604,779 total, with those not fully vaccinated accounting for 99.8% of deaths. That comparison is obviously unfair as for much of that timespan little or no population was vaccinated. Many media sources have wrongly used that comparison. However as of July 12th the USA was 48.6% fully vaccinated or close to half and 54.5% as of September 13th, meaning a comparison of deaths since then is either a fair comparison, or outright slanted in the reverse direction. So how did cumulative deaths from July 12th to September 13th change?:
Deaths (fully vaccinated)=3,040 (+1,977).
Deaths (total)=659,181 (+54,402).
96.4% of deaths were from those not fully vaccinated. Not as lopsided as some media sources make it out to be, but still overwhelmingly unvaccinated, despite them now being a minority of the population, as well as disproportionately younger and healthier. In fact the % of vaccinated dying seems to be going down as vaccinations go up. Not long ago the numbers were more like 95% unvaccinated.
Cases and herd immunity are more complicated questions I admit as well. While I personally suspect that the vast majority of cases are also unvaccinated, numbers for that are hard to come by, and testing is not done randomly which means asymptomatic cases are hard to account for. The scientific consensus on whether or not we can achieve herd immunity for Covid-19 or if it will simply evolve too fast for vaccinations (or prior infections) to be contained that way (as is the case with flu strains) is uncertain, in part because the slower people vaccinate the more likely something like that is to occur. It is quite possible that the long-term outcome is an annual Covid-19 vaccine, quite possibly delivered alongside the annual flu vaccine.
So far to my knowledge like 3 deaths have been plausibly attributed to vaccine driven blood clots and all of them was the Johnson and Johnson vaccine that doesn't use mRNA. So far the mRNA vaccines have worked out solidly with no sign of serious side effects. The thing about 100's of millions of people getting vaccines means you have a huge pool of people to watch for rare and unexpected side effects, but so far so good.
https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/covid-19/health-departments/breakthrough-cases.html
https://ig.ft.com/coronavirus-chart/?areas=usa&areasRegional=usfl&areasRegional=usva&cumulative=1&logScale=0&per100K=0&startDate=2021-07-01&values=deaths
I congratulate you dipshit conspiracy cucks on the deep intellectual bench you've put in place to back your claims. I'm sure none of you or your family members eat veggies, so you should be safe. I want you all to know I was against the plan. I don't want to vaccinate any of you retards that don't want it. But honestly, if this had been my plan I'd have put it in bbq/steak sauce.
In a show dedicated to covid and election fraud conspiracies, Michael Flynn yesterday brings up an article he read that the Deep State medical establishment is planning to secretly put the covid vaccine in salad dressing.
https://twitter.com/RonFilipkowski/status/1440644282759614478
Thank you all for keeping the derision going. I don't even have to look hard, just open twitter and one of your heroes has said something stupid again. C'Mon. Hamsucker, tell us how this is all so reasonable. LOL.
Aaron Hamlet
09-22-21, 18:46
I congratulate you dipshit conspiracy cucks on the deep intellectual bench you've put in place to back your claims. I'm sure none of you or your family members eat veggies, so you should be safe. I want you all to know I was against the plan. I don't want to vaccinate any of you retards that don't want it. But honestly, if this had been my plan I'd have put it in bbq/steak sauce.
In a show dedicated to covid and election fraud conspiracies, Michael Flynn yesterday brings up an article he read that the Deep State medical establishment is planning to secretly put the covid vaccine in salad dressing.
https://twitter.com/RonFilipkowski/status/1440644282759614478
Thank you all for keeping the derision going. I don't even have to look hard, just open twitter and one of your heroes has said something stupid again. C'Mon. Hamsucker, tell us how this is all so reasonable. LOL.You post a 40 second clip of someone saying they read an article about vaccines in salad dressing, then deride that individual without adding any context on what was said prior or after. Same as you did with the single mother RN who came forward on video, risking her job to warn others of what she's seen first hand and has knowledge of. You posted her statements out of order and twisted her words out of context, referred to her as, 'dipshit. Simple minded fuck-spouting stupid shit from the above cuck manual. ' But she isn't. She appeared to be a nice lady, educated and concerned about others and wants to warn them of what she's seen first hand as a RN working for Fed Gov. Why did you do that? Take her words out of context, misconstrue her intent, attack her faith in a higher power?
And now you've done the same thing.
Oh no! Not the salad!Yes. The salad. And not a deep state medical establishment as you wrote, but the University of California-Riverside working from a $500,000 taxpayer grant.
'Modern science is truly amazing. WFLA reports that scientists at the University of California-Riverside are currently working on a way to grow plants that can deliver mRNA vaccines... through your mouth. I bet people with needle aversions are breathing a huge sigh of relief right now.'
"We are testing this approach with spinach and lettuce and have long-term goals of people growing it in their own gardens," Juan Pablo Giraldo, an associate professor in Botany and Plant Sciences at University of California-Riverside said via a press release. "Farmers could also eventually grow entire fields of it."
https://thetakeout.com/edible-plant-grown-mrna-vaccine-salad-science-1847708700
Once again, you demonstrate your inability to read, as I don't frequent FIB you pedophilic fool.
Congratulations Buttfucked, in a field rich with lies, hypocrisy and stupidity you stand alone at the head of the class. Your own posts show you hangout with the local crackheads, trannies and street walker psycho's on Metro/Cleveland & FIB. Buttfucked, is there something you're not telling us about your experiences with the FIB trannies?
Sunshine on Metro/Cleveland
Was cruising through the area after work one day and pulled off the exit just to check it out, and saw this BSW by the CVS so pulled in. She was nothing great but I was just looking for some quick head. She hopped in and wanted 30, but settled on 20 for BBBJ. Said her name was Sunshine. Started out ok, but immediately started rushing and started this counting shit while she was giving head. I hadn't given her the money and told her she was going to finish before she got any money, which she eventually did. She got the job done, but I wouldn't recommend.
I stopped by last night after work right around 7:00 pm. Saw Slim out for the first time in a long time, and picked her up. She was tripping on something, but she was cool & mellow and did BBBJCIMWS. Tried to get her digits since she's pretty cool (and all I been seeing out there is Kendra's sorry ass who I won't see no more), but she said she didn't have one. On the way back dropping her off saw Tasha standing out there, but I didn't stop. Used to see her years ago when she worked off Godby, and she was always cool then with good service.
Stores?! Try Crackhouses, LOL. Seriously, there ain't no stores on that road man. The girls hang there for the drugs. I cruised through yesterday for the first time in a long time. Only saw that sorry ass ***** Kendra out, who I wouldn't throw a nickel to with her bad attitude. I think with it being this cold the girls stay inside the crack houses, and you got to wait outside or ask one of the dope boys for them to come out. I don't like hanging around though so I just make a pass through and I'm gone.
Sorry bro, I don't have any pics, but she's athletic looking track-runner type. Just roll down your window and say hi, and ask their name before you let them in. They'll all tell you their name. If they don't, just move on, as you know then you don't want to mess with them. Slim's taller than Kendra, who's been wearing a blonde wig lately. Keisha gives good service, but you got to watch out because like one poster said, she sometimes smells bad and you don't want her in your car. Jasmine's always cool, but I ain't seen her around in a minute. Watch out, as there is one tranny working the street. You'll know when you see and just move on quick. Another reason to just roll your window down first. LOL.
Now why would you want Kendra's number after two of us just told you she's nothing but trouble? If you ask me, she's going to pull that crap on the wrong dude, and end up getting hurt bad or found dead in a ditch somewhere. As far as what time to hit WCR, 5 or 6 in evening is as good a time as any, but it's hit or miss out there. I don't like to go after dark myself because that road so dark and you can't really see what you're getting, so anytime from like 3 pm until dusk when I'm in the area is when I stop by. But do yourself a favor and take our advice and don't mess with Kendra. That's like these dudes who rush to see these girls who just got bad reviews- makes no damn sense. Why you want to reward hos who treat dudes like that? And why you want to set yourself up for that kinda trouble? You're a senior member, you should know better than that.
WCR is really not that long of a road, but the area I'm talking is sort of in the middle, in front of the house with the fence. Sometimes you don't see them out there at all, but if you drive by, turn around and come back up, they come out. They prolly figure anyone turning around is looking for action, or they recognize my car, LOL. Quality of girls is what you expect for that area, not top notch, but Jazmine & Muffin are aight, and both give good head. Trish can give good head too, but she can be a little psycho, so I would avoid. I have the most luck there around 3-5 pm. I've been by before when there was a whole stable of girls out in front of that house, but it's usually not the case. Yeah, you got to watch out as there's one or 2 trannies that work the area regular, but they're easy to spot and you should always ask for some proof anyway. There's also a tall thin white girl that works there, I think her name's Nikki if I recall. I would avoid as I think she's a crackhead and can be trouble. I never pay more than $10-15 for head, and I'm sure they could be had for probably $5-10 by some of you seasoned hagglers. Good luck!
Will add a post here to try to get things started back. Have stopped thru WC a few times over the last several weeks for a quick BJ. Different girls out with mostly good experiences. Thumbs up- Shan and Muffin. I know I heard others talk about Muffin before, but somehow it's my first time coming across her. Made the mistake of picking up Trish again on one visit. She can be good if you can get thru the craziness, but she's a little whack. I wouldn't pick her up again, especially after I found a broken piece of mirror in my ride after she got out! Be careful out there.
Aaron Hamlet
09-22-21, 19:07
Congratulations Buttfucker, in a field rich with lies, hypocrisy and stupidity you stand alone at the head of the class. Your own posts show you hangout with the local crackheads, tranny's and street walker psycho's on Metro / Cleveland and FIB. Buttfucker, is there something you're not telling us about your experiences with the FIB tranny's?Watch out I Luv Emall. Weirdo Pedophile boy scrolled thru 3 and one half years of your posts.
And in these posts you give good intel, what working girls to avoid and warn others of where the trannys are and how to avoid. Yet he deceives and talks about your 'lies, hypocrisy and stupidity. ' Classic case of confession thru projection.
Dude scrolls thru 3 1/2 years of your posts and is overly concerned about your sex practices? No doubt a weird and bizarre individual.
It's great to hear from tweedledumb. An ass clown who has ZERO standing to rip anybody.
Watch out I Luv Emall. Weirdo Pedophile boy scrolled thru 3 and one half years of your posts.
And in these posts you give good intel, what working girls to avoid and warn others of where the trannys are and how to avoid. Yet he deceives and talks about your 'lies, hypocrisy and stupidity. ' Classic case of confession thru projection.
Dude scrolls thru 3 1/2 years of your posts and is overly concerned about your sex practices? No doubt a weird and bizarre individual.
Watch out I Luv Emall. Weirdo Pedophile boy scrolled thru 3 and one half years of your posts.
And in these posts you give good intel, what working girls to avoid and warn others of where the trannys are and how to avoid. Yet he deceives and talks about your 'lies, hypocrisy and stupidity. ' Classic case of confession thru projection.
Dude scrolls thru 3 1/2 years of your posts and is overly concerned about your sex practices? No doubt a weird and bizarre individual.You cucks are the biggest stalkers on here. Do I really need to go find a couple of posts where you discuss the prior postings of whoever you're attacking? Won't take too long.
You post a 40 second clip of someone saying they read an article about vaccines in salad dressing, then deride that individual without adding any context on what was said prior or after. Same as you did with the single mother RN who came forward on video, risking her job to warn others of what she's seen first hand and has knowledge of. You posted her statements out of order and twisted her words out of context, referred to her as, 'dipshit. Simple minded fuck-spouting stupid shit from the above cuck manual. ' But she isn't. She appeared to be a nice lady, educated and concerned about others and wants to warn them of what she's seen first hand as a RN working for Fed Gov. Why did you do that? Take her words out of context, misconstrue her intent, attack her faith in a higher power?Well, it's like this: I think anyone that believes in a "higher power" deserves to be mocked. Sadly, most of the world hasn't caught up with me on that, but demographics suggest it will happen before I fall over from old age.
But beyond that, she's feeble minded and stupid. Like you. She clearly isn't risking much since she can't be much of a nurse. You seem really put-off by this one. She's not your sister-wife is she?
One last thing: I'll bet you weren't so open and concerned about people risking their livelihood and whistlebloweing when your daddy drumpf was the target. You are a hypocrite, but no worries. That's the least of your shortcomings.
Yes. The salad. And not a deep state medical establishment as you wrote, but the University of California-Riverside working from a $500,000 taxpayer grant.
'Modern science is truly amazing. WFLA reports that scientists at the University of California-Riverside are currently working on a way to grow plants that can deliver mRNA vaccines... through your mouth. I bet people with needle aversions are breathing a huge sigh of relief right now.'
"We are testing this approach with spinach and lettuce and have long-term goals of people growing it in their own gardens," Juan Pablo Giraldo, an associate professor in Botany and Plant Sciences at University of California-Riverside said via a press release. "Farmers could also eventually grow entire fields of it."
https://thetakeout.com/edible-plant-grown-mrna-vaccine-salad-science-1847708700So you DO believe they are poising the salad dressing.
I Luv Emall
09-22-21, 22:28
Now you've only demonstrated you're a sad AND STOOPID fuck. None of those posts are about FIB, you stupid dipshit. You spent all your time digging through my history and only proved yourself wrong and an imbecile once again. Every time you post something you show again what a dumbass you are. You really are an idiot, aren't you? You should just stop posting and it would be a big improvement of your image. You think you're making me look bad by cutting and pasting examples of what this forum is designed to be about? I think that says volumes about you, you stupid petty little fuck. The more you post, the stupider you prove you are.
You think cutting and pasting stupid cartoons and recycling your 2 tired old jokes over and over makes people think you're clever? It just shows them how challenged & dull you really are. Every one knows you're a weird pedophile creepo stalker. You're no Sergeant, you're no Sergeant at all. Never were. You're a coward. And a STOOPID one at that.
Congratulations Buttfucked, in a field rich with lies, hypocrisy and stupidity you stand alone at the head of the class. Your own posts show you hangout with the local crackheads, trannies and street walker psycho's on Metro/Cleveland & FIB. Buttfucked, is there something you're not telling us about your experiences with the FIB trannies?
I Luv Emall
09-22-21, 22:37
He's definitely a sick dude, and got an obsession. I think he's got about a 60 IQ, which I would normally pity, except he's always trying so hard to cover it up by acting superior. He's like the little punk kid at school that always acted big in the classroom in front of the teachers, but could never be found at recess or after class when it was time to back up his big mouth. He's a stain.
Watch out I Luv Emall. Weirdo Pedophile boy scrolled thru 3 and one half years of your posts.
And in these posts you give good intel, what working girls to avoid and warn others of where the trannys are and how to avoid. Yet he deceives and talks about your 'lies, hypocrisy and stupidity. ' Classic case of confession thru projection.
Dude scrolls thru 3 1/2 years of your posts and is overly concerned about your sex practices? No doubt a weird and bizarre individual.
Still flapping your gums, Buttfucked-Tranny-boy? You really are a glutton for punishment, my little piñata-girl. At least we now know where you hang out to satisfy your Girlyman homosexual desires.
Now you've only demonstrated you're a sad AND STOOPID fuck. None of those posts are about FIB, you stupid dipshit. You spent all your time digging through my history and only proved yourself wrong and an imbecile once again. Every time you post something you show again what a dumbass you are. You really are an idiot, aren't you? You should just stop posting and it would be a big improvement of your image. You think you're making me look bad by cutting and pasting examples of what this forum is designed to be about? I think that says volumes about you, you stupid petty little fuck. The more you post, the stupider you prove you are.
You think cutting and pasting stupid cartoons and recycling your 2 tired old jokes over and over makes people think you're clever? It just shows them how challenged & dull you really are. Every one knows you're a weird pedophile creepo stalker. You're no Sergeant, you're no Sergeant at all. Never were. You're a coward. And a STOOPID one at that.
I Luv Emall
09-23-21, 08:18
At least we now know where you hang out
Why are you so obsessed with me? Are you fantasizing about me? Get it through your thick head, it's never going to happen! Not that you could ever find where I hang out if you wanted to, since you don't even know FIB from Cleveland/Metro or WCR, you stupid dumbass! And if you ever did find me, believe me, you'd be sorry you did, as I don't take kindly to pedophiles. You're really a sick little stalker, aren't you? Stay the hell away from our children! The fact that you're such a COWARD explains why you have to pick on children, you sick little fuck.
But I know full well why you're so obsessed with me. I've exposed you for the dumbass you are over and over again, and you're furious about it. You dug through all my history and were unable to find any falsities in my posts, so you tried the diversionary tactic instead, and even failed miserably at that because you're too STOOPID to even understand geography of Atlanta.
Buttfucked-Tranny-boy keep flapping your gums, but even by your abysmally low standards this was a very feeble response. Please beg, borrow or steal some game from some of your tranny friends on FIB.
Why are you so obsessed with me? Are you fantasizing about me? Get it through your thick head, it's never going to happen! Not that you could ever find where I hang out if you wanted to, since you don't even know FIB from Cleveland/Metro or WCR, you stupid dumbass! And if you ever did find me, believe me, you'd be sorry you did, as I don't take kindly to pedophiles. You're really a sick little stalker, aren't you? Stay the hell away from our children! The fact that you're such a COWARD explains why you have to pick on children, you sick little fuck.
But I know full well why you're so obsessed with me. I've exposed you for the dumbass you are over and over again, and you're furious about it. You dug through all my history and were unable to find any falsities in my posts, so you tried the diversionary tactic instead, and even failed miserably at that because you're too STOOPID to even understand geography of Atlanta.
I Luv Emall
09-23-21, 08:45
Even by your abysmally low standards this was a feeble response. Please beg, borrow or steal some game, Buttfucked-Tranny boy. Oh, the irony is just killing me. Should I take a page from you, with your brilliant cut & paste comics? Those have real game! Or should I use your toilet paper / breath mint joke again? That one's so hilarious- it kills everytime!
P.S. - You're a stoopid coward pedophile.
Buttfucked-Tranny boy, ever hear of Freudian projection? Why don't you take a permanent hiatus and go hang with your tranny buddies on FIB.
Oh, the irony is just killing me. Should I take a page from you, with your brilliant cut & paste comics? Those have real game! Or should I use your toilet paper / breath mint joke again? That one's so hilarious- it kills everytime!
P.S. - You're a stoopid coward pedophile.
I Luv Emall
09-23-21, 09:50
Buttfucked-Tranny boy, ever hear of Freudian projection? Why don't you take a permanent hiatus and go hang with your tranny buddies on FIB.Hear of it? You're the prime example of it, witnessed by your obsession with Trump, and your deification of Biden, you pedofile. Oh, you give a shit alright, as evidenced by all the time you spent digging through my history hoping to find something, only to come up empty. And you're still too dense to understand where FIB is. I would say I made a fool of you again, but you manage to do that all by yourself everytime you post. It's really amazing how STOOPID you are, coward.
Like the bully in school, you brought this on yourself. Being the loudmouth and constantly condescending to others and trying to show how smart you are has caused your self-humiliation. And like the bully, you can stop your bludgeoning from those who stand up and expose you for the coward you really are by stopping your boorish behavoir. Or you can go on being the dick you are and continue getting what little brains you have beat out.
Aaron Hamlet
09-23-21, 11:51
No forced masking, no forced tests, no forced vaxs and reported leprosy cases in the Haitians massed at the southern border and being released into the country.
https://twitter.com/justin_hart/status/1440880004770893832
Known cases of measles in Afghan evacuees released in US.
Afghan evacuee in US charged with being a pedophile (Hat Tip Sgt. Soros), forced sexual relations on a minor under 16.
https://www.weau.com/2021/09/22/2-afghan-evacuees-fort-mccoy-face-federal-charges/
Trump's policy of forcing asylum seekers to remain in Mexico before case was heard took lots of money from the Mexican drug cartels and Mexican human traffickers and discouraged the masses. Biden's policies enrich the drug cartels and human traffickers.
No forced masking, no forced tests, no forced vaxs and reported leprosy cases in the Haitians massed at the southern border and being released into the country.
Trump's policy of forcing asylum seekers to remain in Mexico before case was heard took lots of money from the Mexican drug cartels and Mexican human traffickers. Biden's policies enrich the drug cartels and human traffickers.What exactly was President Trump's policy regarding Afghan citizens who worked for us during the conflict and were in mortal danger from the Taliban?
CueBall826
09-23-21, 13:40
Still flapping your gums, Buttfucked-Tranny-boy? You really are a glutton for punishment, my little piata-girl. At least we now know where you hang out to satisfy your Girlyman homosexual desires.I don't understand it but I'm stupid.
Oh my! Buttfucked-tranny boy, I must have really gotten under your skin! You're so freakin' stupid you don't even realize how batshit crazy most of your posts make you look. You really are dumber than a box of rocks and soooo worth my efforts. Isn't it time for you to head down to FIB to get buttfucked and suck more tranny cock?
Hear of it? You're the prime example of it, witnessed by your obsession with Trump, and your deification of Biden, you pedofile. Oh, you give a shit alright, as evidenced by all the time you spent digging through my history hoping to find something, only to come up empty. And you're still too dense to understand where FIB is. I would say I made a fool of you again, but you manage to do that all by yourself everytime you post. It's really amazing how STOOPID you are, coward.
Like the bully in school, you brought this on yourself. Being the loudmouth and constantly condescending to others and trying to show how smart you are has caused your self-humiliation. And like the bully, you can stop your bludgeoning from those who stand up and expose you for the coward you really are by stopping your boorish behavoir. Or you can go on being the dick you are and continue getting what little brains you have beat out.
I Luv Emall
09-23-21, 20:49
I don't understand it but I'm stupid.Oh no, you're not the stupid one, that's the pedophile coward Soros. No one can understand him, because he's incomprehensible. To him, what he posts is incredibly clever and hilarious, but to everyone else, it's just STOOPID, just like him.
I Luv Emall
09-23-21, 20:53
Oh my! Buttfucked-tranny boy, I must have really gotten under your skin! You're so freakin' stupid you don't even realize how batshit crazy most of your posts make you look. You really are dumber than a box of rocks and soooo worth my efforts. Isn't it time for you to head down to FIB to get buttfucked and suck more tranny cock?You're so unimaginative, now you have to play copycat and try to mimic me? I mean, we all already know how much you idolize me and have been stalking me, but you're obviously taking your own advice here and trying to steal game from others. You're pathetic you sick pedophile. And by the way, you're STOOPID.
I see you've taken the time to give us another great example of the "game" that you've begged, borrowed, and stolen from others to try and impress us with your sad cartoons. It does do a good job of illustrating your mental level, I must say. Keep it up, dumbass!
P.S.- Since I'm so dumb, it should be an easy grand for you to take that IQ test, shouldn't it? But oh yeah, you're a coward chicken shit who knows he's really a dumbass, and so does everyone else. I'll keep reminding you of this so you don't forget.
Oh my! Buttfucked-tranny boy, I must have really gotten under your skin! You're so freakin' stupid you don't even realize how batshit crazy most of your posts make you look. You really are dumber than a box of rocks and soooo worth my efforts. Isn't it time for you to head down to FIB to get buttfucked and suck more tranny cock?From reading the text on the image, seems the creator of that image wasn't too bright. Notice he said 'sent' instead of 'send'? This nation sorely needs to get back to the fundamentals of 'readin', writin' and 'rithmetic. I've seen college grads who can't add and subtract double-digit numbers in their heads.
I Luv Emall
09-23-21, 21:36
From reading the text on the image, seems the creator of that image wasn't too bright. Notice he said 'sent' instead of 'send'? This nation sorely needs to get back to the fundamentals of 'readin', writin' and 'rithmetic. I've seen college grads who can't add and subtract double-digit numbers in their heads.That's a classic Soros post. Every time he posts something he makes yet another gaffe. He can't even cut & paste without making himself look STOOPID.
That's a classic Soros post. Every time he posts something he makes yet another gaffe. He can't even cut & paste without making himself look STOOPID.
From reading the text on the image, seems the creator of that image wasn't too bright. Notice he said 'sent' instead of 'send'? This nation sorely needs to get back to the fundamentals of 'readin', writin' and 'rithmetic. I've seen college grads who can't add and subtract double-digit numbers in their heads.NiteL, I agree! I realize there are people like Buttfucked-Tranny boy who have a huge corn COB up their ass about bad grammar or spelling errors. But look at it this way. You wouldn't get near as much pleasure out of this sex board if all the posts were perfect spelling and grammer. After all, it must boost Buttfucked-Tranny boys already fragile ego immensely.
BTW I purposely misspelled grammar just to give Buttfucked-Tranny boys fragile ego another boost.
I Luv Emall
09-24-21, 07:57
NiteL, I agree! I realize there are people like Buttfucked-Tranny boy who have a huge corn COB up their ass about bad grammar or spelling errors. But look at it this way. You wouldn't get near as much pleasure out of this sex board if all the posts were perfect spelling and grammer. After all, it must boost Buttfucked-Tranny boys already fragile ego immensely.
BTW I purposely misspelled grammar just to give Buttfucked-Tranny boys fragile ego another boost.You were too STOOPID to even realize the irony in the comic you "begged, borrowed, and stole" until Nite specifically pointed it out to you, even though I told you it was a perfect illustration of your mental level, you moron!
So you agree with Nite and suck up to him that we need to get back to the basics of good grammar, etc, but then go on immediately to contradict yourself and say I have a corn cob up my ass about bad grammar, even though Nite is the one that called attention to this, and is the post you're responding to? See how STOOPID you are and how twisted your logic is? You are truly imbecilic.
You should try boosting your own ego (and your wallet), and take me up on my challenge. But of course, you realize how inferior you are to me, and that you would lose, so like the coward you are, you prefer to hide behind your keyboard and make claims you can't back up. Nevertheless, knowing how inferior you are to everyone eats away inside you as you can never deny it to yourself, and you don't dare take the IQ test because you don't want to be exposed. I would say I know how much that makes you feel less of a man because you've obviously tried so hard here to prove to everyone how smart you are (when in fact only making just the opposite all the more obvious), but you were never a man to begin with. Your childish mentality explains your pedophilic sickness, but the children will outgrow your mentality, so stay the hell away from our children and give them a chance you sick fuck!
P.S. - you're a STOOPID COWARD, you pedophile.
Oh my, Buttfucked-Trannyboy, that sure did trigger you. LOL. You took the bait again. It's fun watching you have hissy-fits and temper tantrums like you just did. Now go hang out with your tranny and clack-head buddies on FIB.
BTW I purposely misspelled crack-head just to give your fragile ego another boost.
You were too STOOPID to even realize the irony in the comic you "begged, borrowed, and stole" until Nite specifically pointed it out to you, even though I told you it was a perfect illustration of your mental level, you moron!
So you agree with Nite and suck up to him that we need to get back to the basics of good grammar, etc, but then go on immediately to contradict yourself and say I have a corn cob up my ass about bad grammar, even though Nite is the one that called attention to this, and is the post you're responding to? See how STOOPID you are and how twisted your logic is? You are truly imbecilic.
You should try boosting your own ego (and your wallet), and take me up on my challenge. But of course, you realize how inferior you are to me, and that you would lose, so like the coward you are, you prefer to hide behind your keyboard and make claims you can't back up. Nevertheless, knowing how inferior you are to everyone eats away inside you as you can never deny it to yourself, and you don't dare take the IQ test because you don't want to be exposed. I would say I know how much that makes you feel less of a man because you've obviously tried so hard here to prove to everyone how smart you are (when in fact only making just the opposite all the more obvious), but you were never a man to begin with. Your childish mentality explains your pedophilic sickness, but the children will outgrow your mentality, so stay the hell away from our children and give them a chance you sick fuck!
P.S. - you're a STOOPID COWARD, you pedophile.
I Luv Emall
09-24-21, 10:02
Oh my, Buttfucked-Trannyboy, that sure did trigger you. LOL. You took the bait again. It's fun watching you have hissy-fits and temper tantrums like you just did. Now go hang out with your tranny and clack-head buddies on FIB.
BTW I purposely misspelled crack-head just to give your fragile ego another boost.Nice try for a blanket cover ploy for all your gaffes, faggot, but we've all seen you make so many mistakes that you were oblivious to that it just doesn't fly. You're a moron and we all know it, and don't worry, I'll continue to point it out. I've exposed you for the hollowed out pedophile you are, and will continue to do so.
I Luv Emall
09-24-21, 10:28
https://www.wsj.com/articles/selling-access-is-a-scandal-about-joe-biden-not-hunter-11632338003
One year later, after initially denying the story, Politico now confirms the Hunter Biden laptop story about the Biden family being for sale was authentic, despite the so-called "trusted and credible" sources hailed on here squashing the story and decrying its credibility. This was squashed in the days leading up to the election in order to aid Biden's campaign, something that never would have been done for the other party.
Yet another prime example of why this administration and the main stream media has zero credibility. This is one of the most corrupt administrations in history, and certainly the most inept reporting we've ever had. And people wonder why there are so many conspiracy theories? You reap what you sow.
I Luv Emall
09-24-21, 10:42
Being the senile incompetent that he is, Biden decided to follow in the steps of his VP short-list candidate and blame his border agents for the disaster at the border, dressing them down on National TV, and promising they will be held responsible and accountable for doing their job. What a cop out for putting them in an impossible situation to begin with. This clown is disgusting, and he will face the same consequences that Mayor Dumb-bottoms did. He just undermined his force, and none of these guys will feel like they can do their jobs any more without being thrown under the bus. Expect them to begin to lay down the same way APD did, with resulting crime spiking through the roof in Atlanta.
With blunder after blunder, no wonder his approval ratings continue to hit all-time lows.
Even their factually poor report acknowledges drumpf lost. Just two more weeks until they turn the country back over to dipshit drumpf, right?
Maricopa County on Twitter: "BREAKING: The azaudit draft report from Cyber Ninjas confirms the county’s canvass of the 2020 General Election was accurate and the candidates certified as the winners did, in fact, win.".
https://twitter.com/maricopacounty/status/1441228176600952839
Thanks for the great morning. Always nice to wake up and see the news ONCE AGAIN that Biden won.
He just undermined his force, and none of these guys will feel like they can do their jobs any more without being thrown under the bus.Just curious, but can anyone think of a person who previously worked for President Trump who he hasn't thrown under the bus a half a dozen times or so?
HobbyMan51
09-24-21, 13:23
Even their factually poor report acknowledges drumpf lost. Just two more weeks until they turn the country back over to dipshit drumpf, right?
Maricopa County on Twitter: "BREAKING: The azaudit draft report from Cyber Ninjas confirms the countys canvass of the 2020 General Election was accurate and the candidates certified as the winners did, in fact, win.".
https://twitter.com/maricopacounty/status/1441228176600952839
Thanks for the great morning. Always nice to wake up and see the news once again that Biden won.And thank you for continuing to remind us all what a moronic fool you really are. Unfortunately for this world the last one to understand that fact will be you.
I Luv Emall
09-24-21, 16:52
Just curious, but can anyone think of a person who previously worked for President Trump who he hasn't thrown under the bus a half a dozen times or so?Well, my post was not about Trump, but since you brought him up, I can't say I recall him ever undermining the armed forces or the police or the border agents the way this administration has done. Can you honestly say that?
I Luv Emall
09-24-21, 18:15
From the NIH website, for which Fauci works, and the American Journal of Therapeutics comes a peer-reviewed study that concludes "The apparent safety and low cost suggest that ivermectin is likely to have a significant impact on the SARS-CoV-2 pandemic globally. ".
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8248252/?fbclid=IwAR0PJvnz_xAFHkGcxPVcuOHC4hRYcFvgKgbQLlR1YY1UpH0ZC8Srryx5RNU&utm_source=JangoMail&utm_medium=Email&utm_campaign=Good+News+Friday+-+Sept+24+(344287948)&utm_content=.
For all those who accused me of spreading false information from unreliable sources, I'd say it's time to eat some crow. In reality, this is nothing new, the information has been out there, but you have to do a little work to get past the censorship and bias, and not just believe what you hear from this administration and the main stream media. Why anyone would do that with the credibility they have, I can't fathom. There have been many peer-reviewed studies that concluded the same thing, along with many well-renowned scientists, medical experts, and countries. Only this administration's and the media's censorship and bias has prevented fair and objective analysis from taking place, and deprived COVID paitents of effective treatment that could have saved many lives by now. Big box pharmacists have even been refusing to fill Ivermectin Rxs based on the discouragement from this administration. Many Drs have expressed frustration and anger at this administration trying to deprive their patients of their recommended treatment, and putting their patients' lives at risk against their guidance. This administration wants total control of your life, already has total control of the media, and is using it to brainwash people to achieve their objectives.
This is not the only therapeutic that has been discouraged by this administration in order to push their vaccines. Monoclonal antibodies are another, and despite the claims, there is plenty of availability and they are not that expensive, and both of those concerns would be even further addressed with encouragement from this administration instead of discouragement. Hell, the gorillas at Zoo Atlanta were able to get this treatment, you can't tell me it's not available for people. All of this is being done so that vaccines appear to be the only answer, and it's being done at the expense of lives that could be saved with effective treatments (both vaccinated and unvaccinated).
And thank you for continuing to remind us all what a moronic fool you really are. Unfortunately for this world the last one to understand that fact will be you.You're frustrated from all the losing that you've been experiencing. How none of the stupid shit you've been saying all along has materialized in any way.
Chin up skippy. We'll need you looking upwards while pissing on your sad, oddly shaped noggin.
I Luv Emall
09-24-21, 18:45
Some other examples of the armed forces feeling undermined by this administration:
https://taskandpurpose.com/news/army-officer-resignation-letter-marxist-takeover-vaccines/
https://www.wnd.com/2021/08/navy-commander-mandatory-military-vaccination-national-security-threat/
Point #1 on Commander Furman's list above is exactly what I've been talking about with risk assessment. Some people get it.
Well, my post was not about Trump, but since you brought him up, I can't say I recall him ever undermining the armed forces or the police or the border agents the way this administration has done. Can you honestly say that?
Just curious, but can anyone think of a person who previously worked for President Trump who he hasn't thrown under the bus a half a dozen times or so?
From the NIH website, for which Fauci works, and the American Journal of Therapeutics comes a peer-reviewed study that concludes "The apparent safety and low cost suggest that ivermectin is likely to have a significant impact on the SARS-CoV-2 pandemic globally. ".
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8248252/?fbclid=IwAR0PJvnz_xAFHkGcxPVcuOHC4hRYcFvgKgbQLlR1YY1UpH0ZC8Srryx5RNU&utm_source=JangoMail&utm_medium=Email&utm_campaign=Good+News+Friday+-+Sept+24+(344287948)&utm_content=.
For all those who accused me of spreading false information from unreliable sources, I'd say it's time to eat some crow. In reality, this is nothing new, the information has been out there, but you have to do a little work to get past the censorship and bias, and not just believe what you hear from this administration and the main stream media. Why anyone would do that with the credibility they have, I can't fathom. There have been many peer-reviewed studies that concluded the same thing, along with many well-renowned scientists, medical experts, and countries. Only this administration's and the media's censorship and bias has prevented fair and objective analysis from taking place, and deprived COVID paitents of effective treatment that could have saved many lives by now. Big box pharmacists have even been refusing to fill Ivermectin Rxs based on the discouragement from this administration. Many Drs have expressed frustration and anger at this administration trying to deprive their patients of their recommended treatment, and putting their patients' lives at risk against their guidance. This administration wants total control of your life, already has total control of the media, and is using it to brainwash people to achieve their objectives.
This is not the only therapeutic that has been discouraged by this administration in order to push their vaccines. Monoclonal antibodies are another, and despite the claims, there is plenty of availability and they are not that expensive, and both of those concerns would be even further addressed with encouragement from this administration instead of discouragement. Hell, the gorillas at Zoo Atlanta were able to get this treatment, you can't tell me it's not available for people. All of this is being done so that vaccines appear to be the only answer, and it's being done at the expense of lives that could be saved with effective treatments (both vaccinated and unvaccinated).Its "nothing new, the information has been out there" is because it already investigated and dismissed:
The problem is, if you look at those large, aggregate models, and remove just this single study, ivermectin loses almost all of its purported benefit. Take the recent meta-analysis by Bryant et al. That has been all over the news they found a 62% reduction in risk of death for people who were treated with ivermectin compared to controls when combining randomized trials.
However, if you remove the Elgazzar paper from their model, and rerun it, the benefit goes from 62% to 52%, and largely loses its statistical significance. There's no benefit seen whatsoever for people who have severe COVID-19, and the confidence intervals for people with mild and moderate disease become extremely wide.
Moreover, if you include another study that was published after the Bryant meta-analysis came out, which found no benefit for ivermectin on death, the benefits seen in the model entirely disappear. For another recent meta-analysis, simply excluding Elgazzar is enough to remove the positive effect entirely.
The "proof" of Ivermectin's efficacy comes entirely from the Bryant meta-analysis of studies, but if you exclude the Elgazzar study, or even include one additional study, the effect disappears.
https://gidmk.medium.com/is-ivermectin-for-covid-19-based-on-fraudulent-research-5cc079278602
https://bmcinfectdis.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s12879-021-06348-5#Sec2
https://journals.lww.com/americantherapeutics/fulltext/2021/08000/ivermectin_for_prevention_and_treatment_of.7.aspx
https://mobile.twitter.com/GidMK/status/1412635846218448896?s=20
If you run enough studies, the odds are that one of them will eventually show an effect even if there isn't one. Then you just need to cherrypick and limit the meta-analysis to disproportionately reflect those studies. Except its not even that:
The Elgazzar study is most likely fraudulent and bears all the hallmarks of such. Where the Elgazzar study is the big keystone Ivermectin study that other scientific papers build off of. There is no vast consensus of studies for Ivermectin, just the Elgazzar study, the Bryant meta-study that cites Elgazzar, and other papers citing one or both of them in turn.
However there is a much simpler test, one I've mentioned before, for handling conspiracy theories, and that is to look at what the plutocrats who rule society do. Ask yourself. How many elected officials have gotten vaccinated? Then ask yourself, how many have taken Ivermectin? To my knowledge the answer to the former is "a lot" and the answer to the latter is "little to none, even including those who actually got Covid-19". If there was a miracle cure-all, the plutocrats would take it. The plutocrats got vaccinated and didn't take ivermectin. Ergo, vaccination is the miracle cure, not ivermectin.
Note for comparison the mono-clonal antibodies you mention. Regeneron's expensive experimental drug did in fact got grabbed for use by the rich at the first available opportunity. No one disputes that they work. The issue is that they aren't a miracle cure. Regeneron's treatment costs something like $1,600 a use, can only be used on those who already have it, and when used mitigates the effects of Covid-19 moreso than curing it outright. Vaccination by comparison is free, drastically reduces the odds of getting it in the first place thus building up herd immunity, and drastically reduces the chances of death if you do get it.
Mono-clonal antibodies are a useful complement to vaccination by filling in the gaps on the rare occasions where Covid-19 gets lucky, but they're no substitute for it. The more people that get vaccines, the fewer people that will get sick or especially very sick, which allows for scarce and expensive treatments like mono-clonal antibodies to be targeted on those unlucky few that got sick regardless of vaccination.
So no I don't think I will be eating Crow any time soon.😁
Some other examples of the armed forces feeling undermined by this administration:
https://taskandpurpose.com/news/army-officer-resignation-letter-marxist-takeover-vaccines/
https://www.wnd.com/2021/08/navy-commander-mandatory-military-vaccination-national-security-threat/
Point #1 on Commander Furman's list above is exactly what I've been talking about with risk assessment. Some people get it.We're all better off with that fucker out of the armed forces. Hope it shakes out all the assholes that think like he does.
HobbyMan51
09-24-21, 22:05
You're frustrated from all the losing that you've been experiencing. How none of the stupid shit you've been saying all along has materialized in any way.
Chin up skippy. We'll need you looking upwards while pissing on your sad, oddly shaped noggin.The usual puerile drivel from you. We won't lose forever. You know it too. If I can I will personally make sure you know it.
I Luv Emall
09-25-21, 08:41
You asked for peer-reviewed research, of which I'd already given multiple examples, and I gave you that. You asked for reputable sources, of which I'd already given multiple examples, and I gave you a publication from the NIH site. You know as well as I do the purpose of peer-review is to weed-out false scientific data and premises, and yet you reject what the medical community did not because in your opinion "it's most likely fraudulent". Ok, that's your opinion and you're entitled to it, even if it goes against that of the peer-reviewed community. I can relate to it, because as I'm sure you've picked up on, I'm a skeptic myself. I think the real-world data also demonstrates otherwise, and I've given examples of that here and it can be seen by looking at the regions of India that used Ivermectin vs. The regions that did not. It's quite dramatic. But like the vaccines, I don't think there's much point in us arguing, because we have our opinions and only time is going to tell the story and change those opinions. In any event, even if we don't agree, I can respect that you've laid out your rationale and the basis for it.
Regarding your elite argument, I'll say again we really have no idea what the elite are actually doing. I will note that Congress and the Executives exempted themselves from the vaccine mandate- I found that quite hypocritical. We do know Trump got the monoclonol antibodies, and we know several elites that have also gotten those. Because of the campaign that's been waged against it, everyone is afraid to admit to using Ivermectin, as just like you did, they are made fun of for taking "horse medicine". This is an intentional shame and disinformation campaign on the administration's and media's part, and it was obviously effective on you, based on your earlier condemning posts where you clearly knew nothing about the facts of ivermectin except what you heard from the media.
Let's let time tell the story.
Its "nothing new, the information has been out there" is because it already investigated and dismissed:
The problem is, if you look at those large, aggregate models, and remove just this single study, ivermectin loses almost all of its purported benefit. Take the recent meta-analysis by Bryant et al. That has been all over the news they found a 62% reduction in risk of death for people who were treated with ivermectin compared to controls when combining randomized trials.
However, if you remove the Elgazzar paper from their model, and rerun it, the benefit goes from 62% to 52%, and largely loses its statistical significance. There's no benefit seen whatsoever for people who have severe COVID-19, and the confidence intervals for people with mild and moderate disease become extremely wide.
Moreover, if you include another study that was published after the Bryant meta-analysis came out, which found no benefit for ivermectin on death, the benefits seen in the model entirely disappear. For another recent meta-analysis, simply excluding Elgazzar is enough to remove the positive effect entirely.
The "proof" of Ivermectin's efficacy comes entirely from the Bryant meta-analysis of studies, but if you exclude the Elgazzar study, or even include one additional study, the effect disappears.
https://gidmk.medium.com/is-ivermectin-for-covid-19-based-on-fraudulent-research-5cc079278602
https://bmcinfectdis.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s12879-021-06348-5#Sec2
https://journals.lww.com/americantherapeutics/fulltext/2021/08000/ivermectin_for_prevention_and_treatment_of.7.aspx
https://mobile.twitter.com/GidMK/status/1412635846218448896?s=20
If you run enough studies, the odds are that one of them will eventually show an effect even if there isn't one. Then you just need to cherrypick and limit the meta-analysis to disproportionately reflect those studies. Except its not even that:
The Elgazzar study is most likely fraudulent and bears all the hallmarks of such. Where the Elgazzar study is the big keystone Ivermectin study that other scientific papers build off of. There is no vast consensus of studies for Ivermectin, just the Elgazzar study, the Bryant meta-study that cites Elgazzar, and other papers citing one or both of them in turn.
However there is a much simpler test, one I've mentioned before, for handling conspiracy theories, and that is to look at what the plutocrats who rule society do. Ask yourself. How many elected officials have gotten vaccinated? Then ask yourself, how many have taken Ivermectin? To my knowledge the answer to the former is "a lot" and the answer to the latter is "little to none, even including those who actually got Covid-19". If there was a miracle cure-all, the plutocrats would take it. The plutocrats got vaccinated and didn't take ivermectin. Ergo, vaccination is the miracle cure, not ivermectin.
Note for comparison the mono-clonal antibodies you mention. Regeneron's expensive experimental drug did in fact got grabbed for use by the rich at the first available opportunity. No one disputes that they work. The issue is that they aren't a miracle cure. Regeneron's treatment costs something like $1,600 a use, can only be used on those who already have it, and when used mitigates the effects of Covid-19 moreso than curing it outright. Vaccination by comparison is free, drastically reduces the odds of getting it in the first place thus building up herd immunity, and drastically reduces the chances of death if you do get it.
Mono-clonal antibodies are a useful complement to vaccination by filling in the gaps on the rare occasions where Covid-19 gets lucky, but they're no substitute for it. The more people that get vaccines, the fewer people that will get sick or especially very sick, which allows for scarce and expensive treatments like mono-clonal antibodies to be targeted on those unlucky few that got sick regardless of vaccination.
So no I don't think I will be eating Crow any time soon.😁
I Luv Emall
09-25-21, 08:50
We're all better off with that fucker out of the armed forces. Hope it shakes out all the assholes that think like he does.Which one are you talking about? Or did you even bother to read?
Which one are you talking about? Or did you even bother to read?The top one. Where his wife decides the world needs to know all about her hubby's principles and sacrifice. Yes, I've been following the story for a few days. It's offered a few eye-roll opportunities for me.
The usual puerile drivel from you. We won't lose forever. You know it too. If I can I will personally make sure you know it.Dude. So you "personally" want to come suck my dick? As much as I love watch qucks like you demean yourselves, I'm not gay like you are. I'll be happy to have a nice BBC guy standing by as a proxy. I understand they enjoy letting christian identity, white, racist turds like you suck their dicks.
You asked for peer-reviewed research, of which I'd already given multiple examples, and I gave you that. You asked for reputable sources, of which I'd already given multiple examples, and I gave you a publication from the NIH site. You know as well as I do the purpose of peer-review is to weed-out false scientific data and premises, and yet you reject what the medical community did not because in your opinion "it's most likely fraudulent". Ok, that's your opinion and you're entitled to it, even if it goes against that of the peer-reviewed community.
The purpose of peer review is to weed out false scientific data and premises. Which is why they weeded out the Elgazzar study. It was withdrawn. The peers reviewed it and found it wanting. It engaged in plagiarization:
A medical student in London, Jack Lawrence, was among the first to identify serious concerns about the paper, leading to the retraction. He first became aware of the Elgazzar preprint when it was assigned to him by one of his lecturers for an assignment that formed part of his master's degree. He found the introduction section of the paper appeared to have been almost entirely plagiarised.
It appeared that the authors had run entire paragraphs from press releases and websites about ivermectin and Covid-19 through a thesaurus to change key words. "Humorously, this led to them changing 'severe acute respiratory syndrome' to 'extreme intense respiratory syndrome' on one occasion," Lawrence said.
The author claims about the study pool did not align with their raw data:
"The authors claimed to have done the study only on 18-80 year olds, but at least three patients in the dataset were under 18," Lawrence said.
"The authors claimed they conducted the study between the 8th of June and 20th of September 2020, however most of the patients who died were admitted into hospital and died before the 8th of June according to the raw data. The data was also terribly formatted, and includes one patient who left hospital on the non-existent date of 31/06/2020. ".
"In their paper, the authors claim that four out of 100 patients died in their standard treatment group for mild and moderate Covid-19," Lawrence said. "According to the original data, the number was 0, the same as the ivermectin treatment group. In their ivermectin treatment group for severe Covid-19, the authors claim two patients died, but the number in their raw data is four. ".
And many of the patients listed were obvious clones of other records:
"The main error is that at least 79 of the patient records are obvious clones of other records," Brown told the Guardian. "It's certainly the hardest to explain away as innocent error, especially since the clones aren't even pure copies. There are signs that they have tried to change one or two fields to make them look more natural. ".
You can find a fuller list of the errors here.
The Elgazzar study was withdrawn after it was rejected by its peers, something that is very rare, as in like 1 out of every 2500 papers thereabouts gets withdrawn.
And without the Elgazzar study, there is zero evidence in favor of ivermectin:
"Because the Elgazzar study is so large, and so massively positive showing a 90% reduction in mortality it hugely skews the evidence in favour of ivermectin," Meyerowitz-Katz said.
"If you remove this one study from the scientific literature, suddenly there are very few positive randomised control trials of ivermectin for Covid-19. Indeed, if you get rid of just this research, most meta-analyses that have found positive results would have their conclusions entirely reversed. ".
Which in turn belies the question. If the Elgazzar study is true, then why has no other study been able to replicate it? Why does every other study on ivermectin, when averaged out, amount to "no effect"? It being such a massive unreplicable outlier would be a topic of concern even if the paper wasn't laden with obvious blatant malfeasance.
https://www.theguardian.com/science/2021/jul/16/huge-study-supporting-ivermectin-as-covid-treatment-withdrawn-over-ethical-concerns
https://grftr.news/why-was-a-major-study-on-ivermectin-for-covid-19-just-retracted/
HobbyMan51
09-26-21, 00:51
The top one. Where his wife decides the world needs to know all about her hubby's principles and sacrifice. Yes, I've been following the story for a few days. It's offered a few eye-roll opportunities for me.
Dude. So you "personally" want to come suck my dick? As much as I love watch qucks like you demean yourselves, I'm not gay like you are. I'll be happy to have a nice BBC guy standing by as a proxy. I understand they enjoy letting christian identity, white, racist turds like you suck their dicks.Suck your own dick you queer motherfucker. One day, if I ever meet you, you are fucking toast.
Suck your own dick you queer motherfucker. One day, if I ever meet you, you are fucking toast.Is "you are fucking toast" quck code for "I really want to suck your dick?" It's difficult to keep up, what with all the shit you say is gonna happen that never does. Maybe someday I'll speak 'Dumbfuck' and be able to understand.
But at any rate, I told you, that's not my thing. Maybe if your sister hits me up, you can watch. But I'm worried she only has one eye from the inbreeding. I'm sure she's chaste though, and only accepting family members.
Aaron Hamlet
09-26-21, 20:05
https://www.wsj.com/articles/selling-access-is-a-scandal-about-joe-biden-not-hunter-11632338003
One year later, after initially denying the story, Politico now confirms the Hunter Biden laptop story about the Biden family being for sale was authentic, despite the so-called "trusted and credible" sources hailed on here squashing the story and decrying its credibility. This was squashed in the days leading up to the election in order to aid Biden's campaign, something that never would have been done for the other party.
Yet another prime example of why this administration and the main stream media has zero credibility. This is one of the most corrupt administrations in history, and certainly the most inept reporting we've ever had. And people wonder why there are so many conspiracy theories? You reap what you sow.
https://youtu.be/E_h70Q1qA2c?t=55
Some other examples of the armed forces feeling undermined by this administration:
https://taskandpurpose.com/news/army-officer-resignation-letter-marxist-takeover-vaccines/
https://www.wnd.com/2021/08/navy-commander-mandatory-military-vaccination-national-security-threat/
Point #1 on Commander Furman's list above is exactly what I've been talking about with risk assessment. Some people get it.Why feel undermined? Show the damn flag! It'll be flying next to our nation's flag on Veterans Day. Available on Amazon.
Why feel undermined? Show the damn flag! It'll be flying next to our nation's flag on Veterans Day. Available on Amazon.I like one at home, and something to carry around with me. Feel vindicated? Show the damn flag!
Redruger069
09-27-21, 16:04
I like one at home, and something to carry around with me. Feel vindicated? Show the damn flag!Some would say the entire nation lost when Trump lost. Now we all will suffer, just as the tyrants want. Even you my democratic brother.
Some would say the entire nation lost when Trump lost. Now we all will suffer, just as the tyrants want. Even you my democratic brother.Some would. There's only about 30% hardcore drumpfers out there. They're just noisy. It's always sort of head shaking to see someone refer to Biden as a "tyrant" but drumpf? Just a loving old guy that wants to help everyone. LOL.
Aaron Hamlet
09-27-21, 22:44
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hNIj83XNNeE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hNIj83XNNeEIt's definitely a planned genocide! They want to kill off all the smart people. You have nothing to worry about though, right?
It's definitely a planned genocide! They want to kill off all the smart people. You have nothing to worry about though, right?Psst, ask our sex board chief delusion whisperer about that white eclipse he was expecting from the Arizona election audit. Oh wait, it was a big nothing burger from the Ninja dimwits. Their audit shows Biden won the state's largest county by even more votes than the certified results.
The outcome of the GOP-backed recount in Maricopa County, Ariz., which concluded that President Biden won the states largest county by even more votes than the certified results.......
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/sep/24/republican-audit-arizona-bigger-lead-biden
We need politicians that put country first ahead of any political parties, right or left wing propaganda and personal ambition. We need more like this.
We need politicians that put country first ahead of any political parties, right or left wing propaganda and personal ambition. We need more like this.Its a lovely thought, but I think you are giving too much credit to the power of the President. What we really need is a political party (or even better, two) that shares these ideals. Laws are passed by Congress and until we can get past the current environment of partisanship, the country will not be progressing. This "I'm against it because you are for it" mentality has got to stop.
HobbyMan51
10-01-21, 10:59
We need politicians that put country first ahead of any political parties, right or left wing propaganda and personal ambition. We need more like this.I wish that was the case here but Manchin's just making it seem like he's putting country first. What he really is doing is putting himself and his family business (which happens to be in the natural gas industry) first. This makes him appear to be a patriot because it puts him at odds with the traitorous lunatics in his own party but bottom line is that he just looking out for himself. He is making them squirm though and the price tag for their wonderful spending bill is coming down from 3. 5 trillion to around 2 trillion at this point and he is at the epicenter of the major infighting now taking place within the Marxist Democratic Party. I'm all for that. The Republicans in the meantime are just the same old do-nothing doofuses they have always been. We will eventually replace them as we will eventually crush the bastards who are actively seeking to turn America into a Marxist totalitarian utopia.
I wish that was the case here but Manchin's just making it seem like he's putting country first. What he really is doing is putting himself and his family business (which happens to be in the natural gas industry) first. This makes him appear to be a patriot because it puts him at odds with the traitorous lunatics in his own party but bottom line is that he just looking out for himself. He is making them squirm though and the price tag for their wonderful spending bill is coming down from 3. 5 trillion to around 2 trillion at this point and he is at the epicenter of the major infighting now taking place within the Marxist Democratic Party. I'm all for that. The Republicans in the meantime are just the same old do-nothing doofuses they have always been. We will eventually replace them as we will eventually crush the bastards who are actively seeking to turn America into a Marxist totalitarian utopia.I actually sort of agree with you about Manchin. The rest is just crazy shit. Thanks for posting it here though, because now I don't have to go troll the daily stormer, 8 chan or gab to get my daily exposure to retarded quck shit.
On that "we" part. Is this you in your scout scooter?
HobbyMan51
10-01-21, 15:27
I actually sort of agree with you about Manchin. The rest is just crazy shit. Thanks for posting it here though, because now I don't have to go troll the daily stormer, 8 chan or gab to get my daily exposure to retarded quck shit.
On that "we" part. Is this you in your scout scooter?You'll find out, asshole. There will be lots of us on our scooters coming for you one day and you will scream and cry like the little puke that you really are when we do.
You'll find out, asshole. There will be lots of us on our scooters coming for you one day and you will scream and cry like the little puke that you really are when we do.So you mean to say you'll all be playing cuntry music? That shit ALWAYS makes me want to puke. Would've thought you more for a gay, please fuck my quck ass with BBC "Flight the Valkyries" sort of cum-rag.
Why is the media pushing Soccer on America. We have our own sports. We are not the rest of the world. We are the United States.
Screw soccer.
Why is the media pushing Soccer on America. We have our own sports. We are not the rest of the world. We are the United States.
Screw soccer.Because, ComTech BrownWaterPants, you are not "we. " The fact that you don't like soccer doesn't mean shit. I don't like stupid fucks, yet you and others make sure I'm surrounded by them. So now you think soccer is a deep state attempt to bring down the US? LOL.
Because, ComTech BrownWaterPants, you are not "we. " The fact that you don't like soccer doesn't mean shit. I don't like stupid fucks, yet you and others make sure I'm surrounded by them. So now you think soccer is a deep state attempt to bring down the US? LOL.I have no brilliant comeback to your tirade. The hate boiling inside you exemplifies a person of little accomplishment. Yes I will have fries with my.
Cheeseburger and a Dr Pepper.
Why is the media pushing Soccer on America. We have our own sports. We are not the rest of the world. We are the United States.
Screw soccer.
I have no brilliant comeback to your tirade. The hate boiling inside you exemplifies a person of little accomplishment. Yes I will have fries with my.
Cheeseburger and a Dr Pepper.I recognize that you have no brilliant come back for anything; that's because you're a moron. But it's hysterical that you come on here, and bemoan soccer in the US like it's some patriotism issue, then call someone hateful because they point that out.
I can't imagine being hateful enough to think it's worth getting pissed about seeing the media talk about soccer and getting on a hooker board to complain. News flash dummy: Parents have been watching their school kids play soccer for years.
Fuck off.
Ozymandias
10-05-21, 23:04
Why is the media pushing Soccer on America. We have our own sports. We are not the rest of the world. We are the United States.
Screw soccer.Just so you know, baseball is English (it's called rounders there) and American football is a modified-rules version of rugby.
The only really *American* sport (ie. It originated here) is basketball. So, to be accurate, we have our own *sport*, not our own *sports*.
And I'll tell you who's "pushing" soccer on America: it's families and kids. It's pretty ubiquitous, especially since kids can play league soccer from age 4 or so. A great devourer of Saturdays, let me tell you!
O.
Just so you know, baseball is English (it's called rounders there) and American football is a modified-rules version of rugby.
The only really *American* sport (ie. It originated here) is basketball. So, to be accurate, we have our own *sport*, not our own *sports*.
O.Sports plural. THE most American sport is Lacrosse.
Just so you know, baseball is English (it's called rounders there) and American football is a modified-rules version of rugby.
The only really *American* sport (ie. It originated here) is basketball. So, to be accurate, we have our own *sport*, not our own *sports*.
And I'll tell you who's "pushing" soccer on America: it's families and kids. It's pretty ubiquitous, especially since kids can play league soccer from age 4 or so. A great devourer of Saturdays, let me tell you!
O.I always thought basketball was invented by a Canadian!
I always thought basketball was invented by a Canadian!We have our own games. I did not claim we Americans invented superior games. I just complained about the media pushing soccer.
Soccer has existed in our sp school system and organized sports leagues for longer than I have been alive. Why all the hostility because IMHO.
Because I think it is being over done. Especially with 4 and 5 year olds.
I recognize that you have no brilliant come back for anything; that's because you're a moron. But it's hysterical that you come on here, and bemoan soccer in the US like it's some patriotism issue, then call someone hateful because they point that out.
I can't imagine being hateful enough to think it's worth getting pissed about seeing the media talk about soccer and getting on a hooker board to complain. News flash dummy: Parents have been watching their school kids play soccer for years.
Fuck off.You are one sick puppy. To display such anger and hostility over Soccer is truly sad.
Sports are just games, who cares if they push them in the media? 1. If you are getting upset by the news you shouldn't watch it, I don't watch the leftist propaganda, no time for it. 2. Don't watch sports, save double on that one, I got tired of the kneeling and disrespect by overpaid athletes, and you know what I am getting along just fine without watching sports, or watching the leftist media.
What makes America the land of the free is that they have the right to free speech, I don't have to like what they say, but it's their right, it's also might right to avoid and ignore what they say.
So just remember the same laws and rights that protect you and your idea's and opinions also protects those you don't agree with, the day to get angry is the day those rights completely disappear.
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