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Sgt Soros
04-28-21, 02:45
You will have to thank President Trump and Operation Warp Speed for getting the vaccines through testing and emergency recognition in record time plus getting the cross-country testing sites set up so quick using the military, civilian first-responders, and corporate America so fast. Oh yeah, also, without using war-powers got many businesses to voluntarily switch production to much needed supplies and equipment like ventilators and out the major cities.

Operation Warp speed helped but I give most of the credit to the Pharma industry's development efforts over the past 20 years to create the building blocks for a mRNA vaccine. The entire template for a vaccine was just sitting there waiting to be used. Once the Chinese sequenced the COVID gene it took only weeks to develop a vaccine.

Trump's rollout of the COVID vaccines was a dismal failure, he fucked up the logistics of getting said vaccines into peoples arms. Trump set a target to vaccinate 20 million people by the end of 2020. The sad reality, fewer than three million people had received the first vaccine dose at the end of 2020.

DadDillac
04-28-21, 06:15
No they did a great job and you know why because we still had pandemic response team at the time that did their jobs and it's insane to me that you still think Trump did a better job despite the horrible death rate under his administration.This guy is the only one that thinks this. Harvard, John Hopkins, the CDC, and New England Study of Medicine all agree that H1 N1 could not have been handled worse by Biden and his team. But this one jackoff on a sex forum says because they had a team they did the best. Go get your participation trophy LOL what a dumbass.

Finally would the three or four of you sucking Bidens Dick please tell us why without referencing the former president. Or do you hate trump so much you will suck an old mans cock to get rid of him.

TheRabbit
04-28-21, 06:59
This guy is the only one that thinks this. Harvard, John Hopkins, the CDC, and New England Study of Medicine all agree that H1 N1 could not have been handled worse by Biden and his team. But this one jackoff on a sex forum says because they had a team they did the best. Go get your participation trophy LOL what a dumbass.

10,000+ people died of H1 N1 in the US while COVID-19 deaths are 500,000+ that to me said says everything plus there's the fact other countries handle pandemic far better than we did whose deaths are only in the two digits because they implanted REAL lockdown measures not the barely half ass measures the other guy did.

Sgt Soros
04-28-21, 07:39
This guy is the only one that thinks this. Harvard, John Hopkins, the CDC, and New England Study of Medicine all agree that H1 N1 could not have been handled worse by Biden and his team. But this one jackoff on a sex forum says because they had a team they did the best. Go get your participation trophy LOL what a dumbass.

Finally would the three or four of you sucking Bidens Dick please tell us why without referencing the former president. Or do you hate trump so much you will suck an old mans cock to get rid of him.There seems to be some trump revisionist history going on here with some of you numbskulls. This is what's driving you trumpers crazy. Biden's leadership, competency and empathy. A skill set trump has never had and never will. Bottom line, trump fucked up the pandemic response, Biden is cleaning up trump's pandemic failures.

Sgt Lurker
04-28-21, 08:11
Biden's first plan to inoculate 100 Million in the first 100 days of office he quickly realized we were already one pace to do that and more because we were above that target when President Trump left office. But, as typical left-wing folks, many of you do not comprehend the concept of the 10th amendment and let states run themselves. The real joke now is appointing the mass murder Gov Cuomo to head up the governor's weekly COVID advisory calls. President Trump put all the right things in motion and the infamous plagiarizer Biden took those plans, renamed them, criticized Trump, made them his own and regurgitated it into place.


For one thing, it's important to realize that inventing a vaccine is only the first step. After the vaccine exists, then it needs to be manufactured en masse and then distributed in the right way to get that vaccine out of warehouses and into veins. All three of these steps are equally important.

Operation Warp Speed did seem to have some effect on step one. My understanding is that these vaccines did go from the testing phase to approved quicker than normal. That at least we should give Trump credit for. I'm not certain if Trump helped the process of actually inventing the vaccine or not--I think all these major companies were putting a lot of resources into creating a vaccine anyway for obvious reasons so I wouldn't be surprised if it was really only the regulatory hurdles getting smaller that had any effect on how quickly the vaccine was developed.

But that's only the first step. And this is where Operation Warp Speed stops and where Biden's criticism of lack of a plan begins. It appears that Trump had no plans to address any other part of this problem. He had no efforts in place to aid manufacturing or distribution of the vaccine. This is worthy of immense criticism.

For example, the White House under Biden brokered a deal between Johnson and Johnson and Merck (who are competitors) where Merck will help manufacture J&J's vaccine. This is a huge victory for step 2. This is something that likely would not have happened without governmental leadership, especially in a capitalistic system where competitors don't decide to help each other.

The third step is next. Trump did get some criticism here because distribution was largely put in the hands of the states, and some states did a better job than others. I find it hard to blame Trump for the mistakes made here because he was already on his way out and there will likely always be some early hiccups. But it is worthy of criticism that there was no plan for distribution that Trump was able to then give to Biden so that the new administration could hit the ground running. Hopefully we don't need to go over why this should be an issue presidents help each other on.

If you want, I suppose you could criticize Biden for not having an immediate plan to handle the distribution for the vaccines we do have already. I think this is a bit unfair, especially since the pace has picked up rather significantly in the past month and Biden has been clear this is his top priority.

Sgt Soros
04-28-21, 08:16
I'd ask for some of the shit you retards are smoking. But then I check a few posts and realize this is your natural state. Stupid. I've never seen bigger sheeple than people that think trump did anything other than fuck shit up. Hey, got some disinfectant I can inject? Maybe some UV light? Of course, it's tricky to keep that light in the syringe and all. LOL.I agree! It's actually amusing to watch trumpers trying to put lipstick on a pig covered in turd. This is all these numbskulls have got, no substance, just sulky, sore loser snark. Like teens who have been permanently grounded.

Sgt Soros
04-28-21, 08:18
Biden's first plan to inoculate 100 Million in the first 100 days of office he quickly realized we were already one pace to do that and more because we were above that target when President Trump left office. But, as typical left-wing folks, many of you do not comprehend the concept of the 10th amendment and let states run themselves. The real joke now is appointing the mass murder Gov Cuomo to head up the governor's weekly COVID advisory calls. President Trump put all the right things in motion and the infamous plagiarizer Biden took those plans, renamed them, criticized Trump, made them his own and regurgitated it into place.So, are you trying to fool us into thinking Biden in his first 100 days is worse than the past 4 years of king trumpollinni? Nyet, I think not.

Did king trumpollinni provide as promised:

Bigger and better healthcare for all: NO.

Big infrastructure plan: NO.

COVID is 'totally under control': NO.

GDP of 4, 5 or 6%: NO.

Make Mexico pay for the wall: NO.

Reduce US debt: NO.

Cut deficit: NO.

Work hard / No time to golf: NO.

Lock her up: NO.

Cut trade deficit: NO.

Revive coal country: NO.

Bring back manufacturing: NO.

Renegotiate Iran nuke deal: NO.

Denuclearize North Korea: NO.

Lower drug prices: NO.

Fix opioid problem: NO.

Resolve DACA: NO.

Reduce gun violence: NO.

Eliminate government corruption: NO.

In short, trumpers enslaved their party to a useless blowhard. Good job, guys!

RedneckStud
04-28-21, 08:28
So, are you trying to fool us into thinking Biden in his first 100 days is worse than the past 4 years of king trumpollinni? Nyet, I think not.

Did king trumpollinni provide as promised:

Bigger and better healthcare for all: NO.

Big infrastructure plan: NO.

COVID is 'totally under control': NO.

GDP of 4, 5 or 6%: NO.

Make Mexico pay for the wall: NO.

Reduce US debt: NO.

Cut deficit: NO.

Work hard / No time to golf: NO.

Lock her up: NO.

Cut trade deficit: NO.

Revive coal country: NO.

Bring back manufacturing: NO.

Renegotiate Iran nuke deal: NO.

Denuclearize North Korea: NO.

Lower drug prices: NO.

Fix opioid problem: NO.

Resolve DACA: NO.

Reduce gun violence: NO.

Eliminate government corruption: NO.

In short, trumpers enslaved their party to a useless blowhard. Good job, guys!Don't forget about making China pay the tariffs. BIG that FUCKING NO.

Admin2
04-28-21, 08:29
10,000+ people died of H1 N1 in the US while COVID-19 deaths are 500,000+ that to me said says everything plus there's the fact other countries handle pandemic far better than we did whose deaths are only in the two digits because they implanted REAL lockdown measures not the barely half ass measures the other guy did.From the CDC:

"The number of deaths that mention one or more of the conditions indicated is shown for all deaths involving COVID-19 and by age groups. For over 5% of these deaths, COVID-19 was the only cause mentioned on the death certificate. For deaths with conditions or causes in addition to COVID-19, on average, there were 4. 0 additional conditions or causes per death. ".

33,000 people died of covid, the rest died WITH covid, there's a difference. They crammed every death they could into the covid basket while other deaths fell. Normal number of people who die from influenza in a given year 40-80,000 that number in 2020 6,000. Please do not even try to run the "but people wore masks and socially distanced and that's why there was no flu" for a fucking year all the press talked about was how they US was "THE WORST COUNTRY IN THE WORLD" for covid because nobody wore masks or distanced yet the US was so out fucking standing at wearing masks that nobody died of the flu.

About 150,000 extra people died in 2020, it wasn't half a million, covid isn't nothing, but it's not a half a million people something.

FYI, your "real lockdown measures?

They are responsible for killing at least 10,000,000 people worldwide.

https://www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2020/05/05/850470436/u-n-warns-number-of-people-starving-to-death-could-double-amid-pandemic

This was from May of last year, it's probably double that number this year so yes those countries did great with covid, I'm sure the mothers in Africa that are watching their children die slow painful deaths laying in the gutter will forever be grateful to you for saving them from covid.

Here's another one and I love how they say "the covid 19 pandemic is causing this" it's not the covid 19 pandemic, it's the hysterical over reacting being demanded by the largest exercise of privilege the world has ever seen which is slowing down the world economy and pushing over half a billion people into extreme poverty.

https://www.vox.com/future-perfect/22266951/covid-19-poverty-hunger-developing-nations

Let me try this a simpler way, if you end up killing 50,000,000 from starvation over a ten year period you did not successfully manage a disease that has killed 3,000,000 worldwide. Do you understand that?

I'll attach a graphic maybe that will help.

RedneckStud
04-28-21, 10:03
From the CDC:

"The number of deaths that mention one or more of the conditions indicated is shown for all deaths involving COVID-19 and by age groups. For over 5% of these deaths, COVID-19 was the only cause mentioned on the death certificate. For deaths with conditions or causes in addition to COVID-19, on average, there were 4. 0 additional conditions or causes per death. ".

33,000 people died of covid, the rest died WITH covid, there's a difference. They crammed every death they could into the covid basket while other deaths fell. Normal number of people who die from influenza in a given year 40-80,000 that number in 2020 6,000. Please do not even try to run the "but people wore masks and socially distanced and that's why there was no flu" for a fucking year all the press talked about was how they US was "THE WORST COUNTRY IN THE WORLD" for covid because nobody wore masks or distanced yet the US was so out fucking standing at wearing masks that nobody died of the flu.

About 150,000 extra people died in 2020, it wasn't half a million, covid isn't nothing, but it's not a half a million people something.

FYI, your "real lockdown measures?

They are responsible for killing at least 10,000,000 people worldwide.

https://www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2020/05/05/850470436/u-n-warns-number-of-people-starving-to-death-could-double-amid-pandemic

This was from May of last year, it's probably double that number this year so yes those countries did great with covid, I'm sure the mothers in Africa that are watching their children die slow painful deaths laying in the gutter will forever be grateful to you for saving them from covid.

Here's another one and I love how they say "the covid 19 pandemic is causing this" it's not the covid 19 pandemic, it's the hysterical over reacting being demanded by the largest exercise of privilege the world has ever seen which is slowing down the world economy and pushing over half a billion people into extreme poverty.

https://www.vox.com/future-perfect/22266951/covid-19-poverty-hunger-developing-nations

Let me try this a simpler way, if you end up killing 50,000,000 from starvation over a ten year period you did not successfully manage a disease that has killed 3,000,000 worldwide. Do you understand that?

I'll attach a graphic maybe that will help.We had this debate before, and you had to admit you were using partial data (look back 70 pages). The CDC says the were 229,000 excess deaths from late January to mid October. There's no reason not to think the total excess deaths could have reached 500 k, as it was raging later in the year.

Yeah. , you could say someone with the cancer died "with" an anvil to the head, but it was still the anvil being dropped on them that killed them.

Please stop being such a condescending prick.

TheRabbit
04-28-21, 10:47
From the CDC:

"The number of deaths that mention one or more of the conditions indicated is shown for all deaths involving COVID-19 and by age groups. For over 5% of these deaths, COVID-19 was the only cause mentioned on the death certificate. For deaths with conditions or causes in addition to COVID-19, on average, there were 4. 0 additional conditions or causes per death. ".

33,000 people died of covid, the rest died WITH covid, there's a difference. They crammed every death they could into the covid basket while other deaths fell. Normal number of people who die from influenza in a given year 40-80,000 that number in 2020 6,000. Please do not even try to run the "but people wore masks and socially distanced and that's why there was no flu" for a fucking year all the press talked about was how they US was "THE WORST COUNTRY IN THE WORLD" for covid because nobody wore masks or distanced yet the US was so out fucking standing at wearing masks that nobody died of the flu.

About 150,000 extra people died in 2020, it wasn't half a million, covid isn't nothing, but it's not a half a million people something.

FYI, your "real lockdown measures?

They are responsible for killing at least 10,000,000 people worldwide.

https://www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2020/05/05/850470436/u-n-warns-number-of-people-starving-to-death-could-double-amid-pandemic

This was from May of last year, it's probably double that number this year so yes those countries did great with covid, I'm sure the mothers in Africa that are watching their children die slow painful deaths laying in the gutter will forever be grateful to you for saving them from covid.

Here's another one and I love how they say "the covid 19 pandemic is causing this" it's not the covid 19 pandemic, it's the hysterical over reacting being demanded by the largest exercise of privilege the world has ever seen which is slowing down the world economy and pushing over half a billion people into extreme poverty.

https://www.vox.com/future-perfect/22266951/covid-19-poverty-hunger-developing-nations

Let me try this a simpler way, if you end up killing 50,000,000 from starvation over a ten year period you did not successfully manage a disease that has killed 3,000,000 worldwide. Do you understand that?

I'll attach a graphic maybe that will help. This is absurd nonsense, offers no cites, and mischaracterizes the basic reality that old people are riddled with other ailments and conditions as "they were on their way out" rather than "and that's why they're most vulnerable to Covid-19". Meanwhile in the realm of actual data:

https://cdn.jamanetwork.com/ama/content_public/journal/jama/0/m_jvp210048t1_1617198261.3911.png?Expires=1620813458&Signature=RRHg7iaxnYvnO0Soy~JKrC3veZ0DBpm5z3m0vlaqHpq0NPr6ZVzEeqNNgYgVbgNRBB9Jt8gKiS~p7D8nppkONxc8eoYYacxU-FCzZ5n9kMjmGIJMue1bUNZVuu3TtKxHJegQEnZFksyqIn~cwwTzHj6OFh1HlGVXiGHTgpKeRuOsZCgEdZvGWIL0Thi73W-bO-gEu1eJIO9k-A5dVokyEs0rRWIJHEgiJAhP4Hd704ZLzVT0YTdbqfNy0Gg977MQWGSg5N3C79LZu7axY4GI40gTtU6aDsM08yTm-n4sWBsu9E5dgXjV2IUp2pTllUt-Z4jqsh5i2SgtH~ReFNIJGA__&Key-Pair-Id=APKAIE5G5CRDK6RD3PGA

While annual deaths will tend to naturally rise as the American population does, its pretty obvious which one is not like the others:

2015-2016= +31,618.

2016-2017= +69,255.

2017-2018= +25,702.

2018-2019= +15,633.

2019-2020= +503,976.

We officially had 345,323 deaths from Covid-19, but in actuality assuming that +35,552 deaths a year is normal based off 2015-2019, excess deaths beyond expectations was actually 468,424. Its possible some deaths were wrongly credited to non-Covid causes, but its also possible that Covid-19 caused them indirectly, e. G. Stress from the pandemic causing a higher rate of strokes and heart attacks, more people dying of unintentional injuries because they don't want to go to the hospital, etc etc. If those elderly were "on their way out" for some other illness or enfeeblement then Covid-19 sure helped expedite that.

The simple fact of the matter is that deaths / year just don't change much for conditions, which is why I'd been awaiting the final CDC figure. Unless you have some other grand explanation for why half a million more people died than expected the obvious answer is that most if not all of that is due Covid-19. Oh and reminder that this is just 2020 numbers, with the first months of 2021 being some of the highest casualty months on record. Going by the Covid GIS charts here 352,573 Americans died of Covid-19 as of the end of 2020 (roughly in line with CDC figures) but 573,385 Americans have died as of today. Which means that if Covid-19 actually caused 468,424 more excess deaths in 2020 that it has probably already caused 293,368 more excess deaths in 2021, for a total bodycount of 761,792.

So in actuality we're probably at 3/4's of a million deaths due to Covid-19, and will probably wrap up at 4/5 ths. Of course that's just in the short term. For every person that dies of Covid-19, a significant multiple of that suffer permanent health consequences that could result in them dying years earlier. The actuarial toll of that is uncertain but my guess is it'd easily bring us past a million effective deaths.

HobbyMan51
04-28-21, 23:09
From the CDC:

"The number of deaths that mention one or more of the conditions indicated is shown for all deaths involving COVID-19 and by age groups. For over 5% of these deaths, COVID-19 was the only cause mentioned on the death certificate. For deaths with conditions or causes in addition to COVID-19, on average, there were 4. 0 additional conditions or causes per death. ".

33,000 people died of covid, the rest died WITH covid, there's a difference. They crammed every death they could into the covid basket while other deaths fell. Normal number of people who die from influenza in a given year 40-80,000 that number in 2020 6,000. Please do not even try to run the "but people wore masks and socially distanced and that's why there was no flu" for a fucking year all the press talked about was how they US was "THE WORST COUNTRY IN THE WORLD" for covid because nobody wore masks or distanced yet the US was so out fucking standing at wearing masks that nobody died of the flu.

About 150,000 extra people died in 2020, it wasn't half a million, covid isn't nothing, but it's not a half a million people something.

FYI, your "real lockdown measures?

They are responsible for killing at least 10,000,000 people worldwide.

https://www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2020/05/05/850470436/u-n-warns-number-of-people-starving-to-death-could-double-amid-pandemic

This was from May of last year, it's probably double that number this year so yes those countries did great with covid, I'm sure the mothers in Africa that are watching their children die slow painful deaths laying in the gutter will forever be grateful to you for saving them from covid.You could illustrate these truths with stick-figures and one syllable words and these dumbasses still will never get it, largely because they don't want to "get it". I'm curious as to why you think that governments permitted the hysterical overreactions worldwide, though.

SkyWookie
04-29-21, 10:40
You could illustrate these truths with stick-figures and one syllable words and these dumbasses still will never get it, largely because they don't want to "get it". I'm curious as to why you think that governments permitted the hysterical overreactions worldwide, though.The world health org is the one that started the lies and panic. The hysterical overreaction is entirely their fault. It was their way of trying to get more funds from the nations that were members. Disgusting but true.

RogerOver
04-29-21, 14:17
The world health org is the one that started the lies and panic. The hysterical overreaction is entirely their fault. It was their way of trying to get more funds from the nations that were members. Disgusting but true.NRA does the same thing with their unsophisticated dipshit members. And that Pep Le Pew (Wayne LaPierre) can't even shoot!

Don't forget those stupid fucking trump supporters that got fleeced by recurring payments. Disgusting but true.

TheRabbit
04-29-21, 14:33
The world health org is the one that started the lies and panic. The hysterical overreaction is entirely their fault. It was their way of trying to get more funds from the nations that were members. Disgusting but true.Judging by the global death toll and the long lasting heath effects of COVID-19 I say their "overreaction" was pretty justified.

ElPerron
04-30-21, 21:14
Man this hos really get in my nerves, they go MIA weeks or months, no reply any text and one day all of them start texting and trying to meet smh.

Niteluvr
05-01-21, 01:38
Man this hos really get in my nerves, they go MIA weeks or months, no reply any text and one day all of them start texting and trying to meet smh.Do you have any idea as to what you just said?

SkyWookie
05-01-21, 11:42
Do you have any idea as to what you just said?He is saying that a provider disappeared and was no where to be found, he wanted her but could not find or reach her. Then out of the blue she is contacting him nonstop and wanting him to meet up with her. BUT he is still upset that she wasn't available when he originally wanted her.

ComTech42
05-01-21, 12:19
Do you have any idea as to what you just said?The guy is writing in Spanglish. It is a language mostly used in Florida and other Southern border states.

Just not sure if MIA is Miami International Airport where Spanglish along with Spanish are the native language or.

MISSING IN ACTION is the MIA reference.

RogerOver
05-01-21, 14:13
The guy is writing in Spanglish. It is a language mostly used in Florida and other Southern border states.

Just not sure if MIA is Miami International Airport where Spanglish along with Spanish are the native language or.

MISSING IN ACTION is the MIA reference.Hell yeah! I can't understand shit those fucking rednecks say in GA. Wish they'd learn to speak murican!

ElPerron
05-01-21, 20:44
The guy is writing in Spanglish. It is a language mostly used in Florida and other Southern border states.

Just not sure if MIA is Miami International Airport where Spanglish along with Spanish are the native language or.

MISSING IN ACTION is the MIA reference.Missing in action, you got it!

ElPerron
05-01-21, 20:53
He is saying that a provider disappeared and was no where to be found, he wanted her but could not find or reach her. Then out of the blue she is contacting him nonstop and wanting him to meet up with her. BUT he is still upset that she wasn't available when he originally wanted her.That's it, is something very common now, but talking about at least four of them I guess they spent already the stimulus check!

Niteluvr
05-01-21, 21:35
He is saying that a provider disappeared and was no where to be found, he wanted her but could not find or reach her. Then out of the blue she is contacting him nonstop and wanting him to meet up with her. BUT he is still upset that she wasn't available when he originally wanted her.I knew what he was saying, just that his written English is so poor that he needs to do a lot of work on it!

ElPerron
05-02-21, 02:07
I knew what he was saying, just that his written English is so poor that he needs to do a lot of work on it!All I was trying to do was to change the subject of conversations this f. Politics, getting on my nerves 😂,suddenly everyone is an expert 😂.

SkyHighBuilder
05-02-21, 06:24
Judging by the global death toll and the long lasting heath effects of COVID-19 I say their "overreaction" was pretty justified.This whole thing is about Power and Control. The WHO was a floundering, corrupt, almost nothing organization until Covid19. And the "Global death toll" is a farce. There are 2 words that you never here in this discussion, "Of" and "With"! I will grant you that hundreds of thousands of people have died "WITH" Covid19 but I guarantee you that that number is a minor percent when you say that they died "OF" Covid19.

It is a Fact that healthcare providers get more money for documenting Covid19 deaths. The other side is the control over populations that the virus gives the power hungry. Fear is another limiting factor that causes self imposed limits on group gatherings and there for less personal interaction and face to face information exchanges.

Our entire election system was thrown for a loop because of it and it continues to effect our lives now. The homeless population here is going to rise, there are already more people living in motels and with someone else who had their own stuff last year. People have lost their businesses and livelihoods through this "Pandemic".

Why are states like Texas and Florida with their "Open Society" approaches seeing less cases and states like Michigan with their "Closed Society" reporting more?

I believe it has much more to do with Money, Power and Control than most are willing to say. But I know a lot are thinking it by now (Even if you didn't in the beginning).

Here it is from the CDC (right now at 5:45 am 5/2/21) by the numbers:

Right now on the CDC website the numbers as reported from 1/4/20 - 4/25/21 are that 621,730 deaths have occurred overall (these are NOT Covid19 but the total number of deaths in the US over that period). They also state that the total number of Death Certificates reporting Covid19 as the cause of death is 557,486. Follow the numbers below and they just don't add up.

Of those, the following Comorbidities are listed; 45.9% (254,384) had Influenza & Pneumonia, 19.8% (109,768) Hypertension, 16% (88,925) Diabetes, 13.5% (75,194) Alzheimer and other Dementia & 9. 5%. (52,986) Sepsis. If you remove the Alzheimer / Dementia category (may not be an actual health issue but more mental, you get 506,063 total deaths and subtract the total from above and you end up with 115,667 deaths that COULD be the total deaths OF Covid19 over 16 months in the US. If you divide the number by 16 you end up with 7,229 monthly deaths and that my friends is nothing more than the normal INFLUENZA deaths we get annually in the United States.

To break it down even further: 80.2% are over 65,17. 2% are between 45 - 64 and only 2. 6% of the total deaths reported are under 45. When you get down to the younger groups it drops dramatically. SO WHY all the fuss over numbers like these? You tell me!

Just sayin' .

Niteluvr
05-02-21, 07:10
All I was trying to do was to change the subject of conversations this f. Politics, getting on my nerves 😂,suddenly everyone is an expert 😂.Unfortunately, none of them is an expert and I'm tired of the politics here too.

HobbyMan51
05-02-21, 11:21
This whole thing is about Power and Control. The WHO was a floundering, corrupt, almost nothing organization until Covid19. And the "Global death toll" is a farce. There are 2 words that you never here in this discussion, "Of" and "With"! I will grant you that hundreds of thousands of people have died "WITH" Covid19 but I guarantee you that that number is a minor percent when you say that they died "OF" Covid19.

It is a Fact that healthcare providers get more money for documenting Covid19 deaths. The other side is the control over populations that the virus gives the power hungry. Fear is another limiting factor that causes self imposed limits on group gatherings and there for less personal interaction and face to face information exchanges.

Our entire election system was thrown for a loop because of it and it continues to effect our lives now. The homeless population here is going to rise, there are already more people living in motels and with someone else who had their own stuff last year. People have lost their businesses and livelihoods through this "Pandemic".

Why are states like Texas and Florida with their "Open Society" approaches seeing less cases and states like Michigan with their "Closed Society" reporting more?

I believe it has much more to do with Money, Power and Control than most are willing to say. But I know a lot are thinking it by now (Even if you didn't in the beginning).

Here it is from the CDC (right now at 5:45 am 5/2/21) by the numbers:

Right now on the CDC website the numbers as reported from 1/4/20 - 4/25/21 are that 621,730 deaths have occurred overall (these are NOT Covid19 but the total number of deaths in the US over that period). They also state that the total number of Death Certificates reporting Covid19 as the cause of death is 557,486. Follow the numbers below and they just don't add up.

Of those, the following Comorbidities are listed; 45.9% (254,384) had Influenza & Pneumonia, 19.8% (109,768) Hypertension, 16% (88,925) Diabetes, 13.5% (75,194) Alzheimer and other Dementia & 9. 5%. (52,986) Sepsis. If you remove the Alzheimer / Dementia category (may not be an actual health issue but more mental, you get 506,063 total deaths and subtract the total from above and you end up with 115,667 deaths that COULD be the total deaths OF Covid19 over 16 months in the US. If you divide the number by 16 you end up with 7,229 monthly deaths and that my friends is nothing more than the normal INFLUENZA deaths we get annually in the United States..Or like a walk-off home run. A nails it, end of discussion post. Of course idiots like The Rabbit and a few other Biden-impaired fools on this thread will have none of it since it threatens their precious little narratives and fragile, carefully constructed psyches. Common sense to them is like a crucifix to Dracula. They recoil and slither back into the darkness of ignorance from whence they came. Unfortunately they are compelled to drench us with their ignorance so expect furious howls of rebuttals from them very soon.

TheRabbit
05-02-21, 15:54
Or like a walk-off home run. A nails it, end of discussion post. Of course idiots like The Rabbit and a few other Biden-impaired fools on this thread will have none of it since it threatens their precious little narratives and fragile, carefully constructed psyches. Common sense to them is like a crucifix to Dracula. They recoil and slither back into the darkness of ignorance from whence they came. Unfortunately they are compelled to drench us with their ignorance so expect furious howls of rebuttals from them very soon.Oh I don't think so, I currently busy right now to give a response but rest assured I have a few words to say of that idiotic statement.

TheRabbit
05-02-21, 17:55
This whole thing is about Power and Control. The WHO was a floundering, corrupt, almost nothing organization until Covid19. And the "Global death toll" is a farce. There are 2 words that you never here in this discussion, "Of" and "With"! I will grant you that hundreds of thousands of people have died "WITH" Covid19 but I guarantee you that that number is a minor percent when you say that they died "OF" Covid19.

It is a Fact that healthcare providers get more money for documenting Covid19 deaths. The other side is the control over populations that the virus gives the power hungry. Fear is another limiting factor that causes self imposed limits on group gatherings and there for less personal interaction and face to face information exchanges.

Our entire election system was thrown for a loop because of it and it continues to effect our lives now. The homeless population here is going to rise, there are already more people living in motels and with someone else who had their own stuff last year. People have lost their businesses and livelihoods through this "Pandemic".

Why are states like Texas and Florida with their "Open Society" approaches seeing less cases and states like Michigan with their "Closed Society" reporting more?

I believe it has much more to do with Money, Power and Control than most are willing to say. But I know a lot are thinking it by now (Even if you didn't in the beginning).

Here it is from the CDC (right now at 5:45 am 5/2/21) by the numbers:

Right now on the CDC website the numbers as reported from 1/4/20 - 4/25/21 are that 621,730 deaths have occurred overall (these are NOT Covid19 but the total number of deaths in the US over that period). They also state that the total number of Death Certificates reporting Covid19 as the cause of death is 557,486. Follow the numbers below and they just don't add up.

Of those, the following Comorbidities are listed; 45.9% (254,384) had Influenza & Pneumonia, 19.8% (109,768) Hypertension, 16% (88,925) Diabetes, 13.5% (75,194) Alzheimer and other Dementia & 9. 5%. (52,986) Sepsis. If you remove the Alzheimer / Dementia category (may not be an actual health issue but more mental, you get 506,063 total deaths and subtract the total from above and you end up with 115,667 deaths that COULD be the total deaths OF Covid19 over 16 months in the US. If you divide the number by 16 you end up with 7,229 monthly deaths and that my friends is nothing more than the normal INFLUENZA deaths we get annually in the United States.

To break it down even further: 80.2% are over 65,17. 2% are between 45 - 64 and only 2. 6% of the total deaths reported are under 45. When you get down to the younger groups it drops dramatically. SO WHY all the fuss over numbers like these? You tell me!

Just sayin' .WHO has nothing to do with the CDC data I mentioned for 2020 a few posts ago.
https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2778234

You do not include the link for the CDC website page where you claim to get your figures from but 621,730 deaths for the 477 day period is contradicted by the data I posted where close to 2. 7-2. 9 million Americans die every 365 days.

However its also just blatantly implausible from an actuarial standpoint. There are 331 million Americans. If the age pyramid was a perfect column you'd expect 1/79 Americans to die every year, equal to the life expectancy. Since it isn't a column and there are more young than old, it was about 1/114 in 2019 and even Covid-19 could only push it down to 1/99. His purported figure implies 475747 dead a year, which implies 1/696 Americans die each year. That's just mathematically impossible unless the vast majority of Americans are youth (not true) or they live to be over half a millennium old (not true).

Finally even if you were willing to accept "they were sickly elderly on their way out, who cares if we let them out a little early and more painfully" the death toll belies the true impact of Covid-19. The long-term effects of Covid-19 are unknown for obvious reasons, but given hospitalization rates I wouldn't be surprised if it was in the millions. Millions of Americans will likely suffer permanent negative effects from Covid-19, millions more will be affected by their relations to those permanently debilitated or dead. All for a disease that could've been stopped or at least minimized by competent effort as numerous countries around the world have proven able to do.

Then you have the economic damage. Trump's too little too late approach to lockdowns, far from saving the American economy, instead ensured that it would stay closed longer. The more people were getting sick, the more people chose to stay home, no matter how "open" Trump insisted on things officially being. If the administration had instead just accepted that things would be bad for a bit and had an early and overwhelming lockdown, it would've saved months of scared-consumer-enforced quasi-lockdowns. Once again there are dozens of countries around the world that were able to safely reboot their economy sooner. Trillions in avoidable damages, which in a capitalist scarcity society equals even more dead.

I might add that the biggest enabler of the WHO was Donald Trump. Before him, the WHO kinda followed the CDC's lead, because they're the well funded health apparatus of the global superpower. Trump's "have the federal government do nothing and let God sort them out" approach to pandemic management meant that the WHO was forced to take the lead where they otherwise would not have, just as the states were forced to get their own tests and vaccinations and everything without assistance or facing outright sabotage.

Also some death counts relative to prior years for American locations
https://static01.nyt.com/images/2020/04/28/us/coronavirus-death-toll-total-promo-1588123095036/coronavirus-death-toll-total-promo-1588123095036-superJumbo-v3.jpg

Or an example in Italy too:
https://voxeu.org/sites/default/files/image/FromMay2014/ciminelli22aprilfig1.png

Or elsewhere:
https://www.ft.com/__origami/service/image/v2/images/raw/https%3A%2F%2Fd6c748xw2pzm8.cloudfront.net%2Fprod%2F4dee8c60-9702-11eb-9838-33ecf8170d91-fullwidth.png?dpr=1&fit=scale-down&quality=highest&source=next&width=1260

Chart after chart after chart shows the same story, of daily deaths from all-causes in countries suddenly spiking dramatically from historic norms without explanation, at exactly the periods Covid-19 waves were hitting those nations, with the only exceptions being nations that successfully largely managed Covid-19 like South Korea, Norway, or Germany. Unless you decide to just regard all death data from any country anywhere, data that comes from tons of different sources around the world to be garbage you need to have an explanation as to why daily deaths were dramatically higher in nations around the world at exactly the points Covid-19 was most feverish but somehow be unrelated to Covid-19 entirely.

HobbyMan51
05-02-21, 19:22
Oh I don't think so, I currently busy right now to give a response but rest assured I have a few words to say of that idiotic statement.As you always do, chasing down common sense with your own particular brand of stupidity. And it's always Trump's fault too. When he shut down travel to and from China, Mighty Joe called him a racist while Pelosi-Witch partied in the streets. Just some more inconvenient truths that you always somehow manage to ignore to keep the fires of your pathetic agenda going.

GoneForGood97
05-02-21, 23:58
Not going to argue politics, no one is going to change their mind from anything posted in a fucking sex forum. However, this is when it really "hit" me that COVID wasn't overblown: I have 2 funeral homes as clients. One is a "larger" organization with parlors in multiple counties. The other is a solo in a medium sized city.

They both had the "best" year ever in their respective businesses in 2020. And not by a little bit. Let me put it this way: if you told me I could invest in a business now with the revenue growth these 2 businesses had in 12 months, I'd write that check in a second.

Believe what you want, but capitalism and the market will always tell.

TheRabbit
05-03-21, 06:56
As you always do, chasing down common sense with your own particular brand of stupidity. And it's always Trump's fault too. When he shut down travel to and from China, Mighty Joe called him a racist while Pelosi-Witch partied in the streets. Just some more inconvenient truths that you always somehow manage to ignore to keep the fires of your pathetic agenda going.Biden did not call Trump a racist, this what he actually said:

"We are in the midst of a crisis with the coronavirus. We need to lead the way with science — not Donald Trump's record of hysteria, xenophobia, and fear-mongering. He is the worst possible person to lead our country through a global health emergency. ".

But Biden did not explicitly tie xenophobia to the travel restriction. His tweet reflects coronavirus remarks he made during a campaign stop in Iowa Jan. 31, the day the travel restrictions were announced.

He criticizing Trump poor handling of COVID-19 which Biden turn out to be completely about.

SkyWookie
05-03-21, 08:42
Not going to argue politics, no one is going to change their mind from anything posted in a fucking sex forum. However, this is when it really "hit" me that COVID wasn't overblown: I have 2 funeral homes as clients. One is a "larger" organization with parlors in multiple counties. The other is a solo in a medium sized city.

They both had the "best" year ever in their respective businesses in 2020. And not by a little bit. Let me put it this way: if you told me I could invest in a business now with the revenue growth these 2 businesses had in 12 months, I'd write that check in a second.

Believe what you want, but capitalism and the market will always tell.I have money invested in funerals and related items such as Caskets and I lost 10% in 2020 on that part of my portfolio so I don't know where you get your information from but it wasn't a great year for that business at all.

TheRabbit
05-03-21, 11:52
I have money invested in funerals and related items such as Caskets and I lost 10% in 2020 on that part of my portfolio so I don't know where you get your information from but it wasn't a great year for that business at all.This only proves you suck at investment in this area, just because you didn't make a profit doesn't mean everyone else didn't.

GoneForGood97
05-03-21, 12:01
I have money invested in funerals and related items such as Caskets and I lost 10% in 2020 on that part of my portfolio so I don't know where you get your information from but it wasn't a great year for that business at all.Between an increase in preference for cremation services and the price of wood skyrocketing in 2020, losing 10% tracks.

SirDiscreet
05-03-21, 15:10
Between an increase in preference for cremation services and the price of wood skyrocketing in 2020, losing 10% tracks.So funeral homes have large lumber expenses every year huh?

So funeral homes offer cremation services at an operating loss huh?

JeebusChristaMighty.

Niteluvr
05-03-21, 16:14
I have money invested in funerals and related items such as Caskets and I lost 10% in 2020 on that part of my portfolio so I don't know where you get your information from but it wasn't a great year for that business at all.Never would have thought that investing in caskets and funerals would be a smart thing to do.

SkyWookie
05-03-21, 16:28
This only proves you suck at investment in this area, just because you didn't make a profit doesn't mean everyone else didn't.Just because you can type doesn't mean you have any common sense or knowledge about being anything other than a forum troll. But hey you are good at it.

SkyWookie
05-03-21, 20:46
Never would have thought that investing in caskets and funerals would be a smart thing to do.It's a necessary evil, like grocery stores, people need to eat so they buy food, because this society isn't going to grow or raise their own. Well funerals homes require caskets, you'd think you could just be put in a wooden pine box, but the law says you can't, so caskets sell. And contrary to liberal belief millions of people did not die from covid last year. Most of the people who died were already dying of cancer or had severe health issues. 6 months into the pandemic the cdc reported only 9700 people died from cornavirus alone, so not many compared to say the flu. Most of the people who died were already on their way out and covid took them at best a "little early". I know libtards will be running around crying to their daddy's that touched them inappropriately when they were young after reading this but its the facts. There was actually a declinein coffin sales in 2020 compared to 2019.

GoneForGood97
05-04-21, 00:41
So funeral homes have large lumber expenses every year huh?

So funeral homes offer cremation services at an operating loss huh?

JeebusChristaMighty.No idea what funeral homes lumber expenses are, nor do I care. I'm simply taking him at his word that he lost 10% and tried to rationalize it. I don't know how an investor takes a "10% loss in funerals and related items such as Caskets" when the average stock price of the top 4 funeral stocks went up an average of 173% in the past 12 months. (Service Corporation International, StoneMor Partners, Carriage Services, Park Lawn Corporation). Maybe he bet against it. Maybe he bought in during an earlier spike and sold at a loss when the market crashed this time last year.

I also don't follow the logic of someone investing in funeral services when they believe COVID to be an exaggerated phenomena. Hell, if anything, that person should bet against funeral stocks, and if COVID was overblown, made a small fortune when the stocks burst due to being overinflated from a "fake" pandemic. Instead, he claims to have invested in a market that by his own logic should crash (and therefore bet against his own beliefs and logic) and somehow lost money while that market was enjoying 3 digit gains. It's a weird paradox.

TheRabbit
05-04-21, 07:06
And contrary to belief millions of people did not die from covid last year. Yes they did we have the numbers proving so.


Most of the people who died were already dying of cancer or had severe health issues.Yeah that's in part why we are having these lockdowns to protect the vulnerable from this virus such as the elderly and other reason is there are life long health of getting COVID-19 regardless of age.


Most of the people who died were already on their way out.You have no proof of this.


covid took them at best a "little early".Again no proof and you seem to be ignoring the basic fact these people would still be alive if they did not catch COVID-19.


There was actually a declining coffin sales in 2020 compared to 2019.
There's actually a good reason for this coffins are expensive and are made for show at funerals which most people couldn't have due to the lockdowns.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/christopherhelman/2020/04/21/how-the-pandemic-is-killing-the-death-business/?sh=1407717a6c64

HobbyMan51
05-04-21, 07:14
Just because you can type doesn't mean you have any common sense or knowledge about being anything other than a forum troll. But hey you are good at it.He's also way smarter than all of us and better looking too. He is everything! He is Superman! All hail The Rabbit!

It's useless, Sky. He's got an answer for everything, even if he's full of shit and he knows it. Fuck him.

SkyWookie
05-04-21, 10:40
Yes they did we have the numbers proving so.

Yeah that's in part why we are having these lockdowns to protect the vulnerable from this virus such as the elderly and other reason is there are life long health of getting COVID-19 regardless of age.

You have no proof of this.

Again no proof and you seem to be ignoring the basic fact these people would still be alive if they did not catch COVID-19.


There's actually a good reason for this coffins are expensive and are made for show at funerals which most people couldn't have due to the lockdowns.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/christopherhelman/2020/04/21/how-the-pandemic-is-killing-the-death-business/?sh=1407717a6c64The CDC said so, do you not consider them a factual source? Or your brain can't wrap itself around the truth? Or you are just being a troll who likes to argue? I'm think the lase one, the cdc said after 6 months in that only 9700 people died from covid, all the rest had conditions that were already killing them. You see I actually care about the truth and the future of our country, you only care about trolling this thread, basically almost all of your posts are in this thread, you honestly don't contribute anything. Would you argue the earth was flat just so you could troll that too? I imagine you would.

People with stage 4 cancer who had days to live caught covid before dying and leftwing libtards were screaming "they died of covid!

It's a shame how people like yourself are making "idiocracy" a reality.

Hospitals as part of the rescue plan got money for every death certificate that listed cause of death as covid. Hospitals are businesses, even the CDC director acknowledged that hospitals "had a monetary incentive to overcount covid deaths".

Less people died of covid (by itself) than the flu, the cdc stated 42000 people died of covid (without already being on their deathbeds) while 47000 died of the flu. I already know you will argue that cancer patients and those who had only days to live should be counted as covid deaths but covid isn't what killed them. Your mentality is that if someone with covid gets hit by a car and dies covid is the cause of death, smh.

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/cdc-director-acknowledges-hospitals-have-a-monetary-incentive-to-overcount-coronavirus-deaths

Ren Man
05-04-21, 11:45
If you're one of those assholes whose been trying to actually defend the pompous orange turd who LOST the election FAIR and SQUARE, or who has contributed to the perpetuation of the lies and conspiracy theories about COVID that have led to the death of well over half a million people (of which over half would still be alive if not for the ineptitude coming from the White House. Then don't ask me for information OR expect to be invited to any of my events. You've shown your asses right here for all to see. I always tell ladies that I'll only connect them with guys I can vouch for. I refuse to vouch for brain dead idiots.

WhiteKnightAt
05-04-21, 11:55
If you're one of those assholes whose been trying to actually defend the pompous orange turd who LOST the election FAIR and SQUARE, or who has contributed to the perpetuation of the lies and conspiracy theories about COVID that have led to the death of well over half a million people (of which over half would still be alive if not for the ineptitude coming from the White House. Then don't ask me for information OR expect to be invited to any of my events. You've shown your asses right here for all to see. I always tell ladies that I'll only connect them with guys I can vouch for. I refuse to vouch for brain dead idiots.Let's see what the AZ election audit shows. There are credible reports from thousands of witnesses of voter fraud. If you are right, what are you afraid of?

TheRabbit
05-04-21, 11:56
It's useless, Sky. He's got an answer for everything, Fuck him.That's because I include facts of what I am talking about, you don't and you're just angry about that.

WhiteKnightAt
05-04-21, 12:22
Yes they did we have the numbers proving so.

Yeah that's in part why we are having these lockdowns to protect the vulnerable from this virus such as the elderly and other reason is there are life long health of getting COVID-19 regardless of age.

You have no proof of this.

Again no proof and you seem to be ignoring the basic fact these people would still be alive if they did not catch COVID-19.


There's actually a good reason for this coffins are expensive and are made for show at funerals which most people couldn't have due to the lockdowns.Here is a link showing the lockdowns and masks did nothing. Want additional proof? Why are infections and deaths higher in lockdown NJ and NY then open Georgia and Florida?

https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/stanford-study-lockdowns-have-no-significant-effect-in-reducing-covid-19-may-even-spread-it

SkyWookie
05-04-21, 13:12
That's because I include facts of what I am talking about, you don't and you're just angry about that.No you don't include facts, you include op-eds and biased articles written by far left opinionists. Facts come from say the CDC, or other government agencys that have said the covid numbers are severely overblown, you take articles from places like the NY TImes and CNN which are supported financially by China and print communist and socialist propaganda accordingly, that wabbit is not facts.

Like other left wing radicals you decide that you want it to be so, so you will choose to believe is so. Then leftwing radical Chinese controlled media players will print the garbage and "if they report it's true it must be true right?

You'll notice every major claim that cnn, nytimes, msnbc and others make somehow end up "redacted" but masses never see the redaction because it's hidden in tiny print. Every day I meet more and more people that tell me had they known how bias the leftwing media was and how badly they were lied to they never would have voted for Biden.

Enjoy the time democrats control the big house because the same people that put dems in power are ready to put them back out only 7 months after the election.

Sgt Soros
05-04-21, 17:53
Let's see what the AZ election audit shows. There are credible reports from thousands of witnesses of voter fraud. If you are right, what are you afraid of?Yawn*.

Stop trying to make Fetch happen. It's not going to happen. The numbskulls carrying out the Arizona audit, in secret and on behalf of king trumpollinni call themselves the "Cyber Ninjas" -- they sound really, really, reputable. LOL.


Here is a link showing the lockdowns and masks did nothing. Want additional proof? Why are infections and deaths higher in lockdown NJ and NY then open Georgia and Florida?

https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/stanford-study-lockdowns-have-no-significant-effect-in-reducing-covid-19-may-even-spread-it

”No evidence of lockdown efficacy in any country.” Seriously WTF are these guys smoking? Are any of these clueless idiots clued in to whats happening in India and Brazil right now?

”India has now descended into a tragedy of unprecedented proportions, with their health care system completely overwhelmed and teetering on total collapse with COVID cases. Almost 1.6 million cases have been registered in a week, bringing total cases to more than 15 million. In the space of just 12 days, the Covid positivity rate doubled to 17%, while in Delhi it hit 30%. Hospitals across the country have filled to capacity but this time it is predominately the young taking up the beds; in Delhi, 65% of cases are under 40 years old.”

https://www.usatoday.com/picture-gallery/news/2021/04/27/mass-funeral-pyres-reflect-indias-covid-crisis/7396293002/

FYI, COVID is not fake, just ask the families of COVID victims in the U.S. India, Brazil, Italy etc. This pandemic is an international crisis - the longer the virus circulates, the longer and possibly more dangerous the pandemic becomes. A little more than 1 in 6 people on EARTH live in India. This is a huge disaster for India in particular and the planet generally because the virus is currently being given free reign to mutate. What we see happening in India is a global catastrophe happening in real time.

TheRabbit
05-04-21, 18:16
The CDC said so, do you not consider them a factual source? Or your brain can't wrap itself around the truth? Or you are just being a troll who likes to argue? I'm think the lase one, the cdc said after 6 months in that only 9700 people died from covid, all the rest had conditions that were already killing them. You see I actually care about the truth and the future of our country, you only care about trolling this thread, basically almost all of your posts are in this thread, you honestly don't contribute anything. Would you argue the earth was flat just so you could troll that too? I imagine you would.

People with stage 4 cancer who had days to live caught covid before dying and leftwing libtards were screaming "they died of covid!

It's a shame how people like yourself are making "idiocracy" a reality.

Hospitals as part of the rescue plan got money for every death certificate that listed cause of death as covid. Hospitals are businesses, even the CDC director acknowledged that hospitals "had a monetary incentive to overcount covid deaths".

Less people died of covid (by itself) than the flu, the cdc stated 42000 people died of covid (without already being on their deathbeds) while 47000 died of the flu. I already know you will argue that cancer patients and those who had only days to live should be counted as covid deaths but covid isn't what killed them. Your mentality is that if someone with covid gets hit by a car and dies covid is the cause of death, smh.

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/cdc-director-acknowledges-hospitals-have-a-monetary-incentive-to-overcount-coronavirus-deathsDude the CDC see people who died of or with COVID-19 one and the same because again they would been alive if they not catch COVID-19 plus the majority who died are not stage 4 cancer patients but people with pre existing conditions that are not immediate fatal such as people with heart conditions, asthma, pulmonary hypertension, diabetes, down syndrome, hiv, weakened immune system, obesity, people who smoke heavily, pregnancy. People who live with obesity, diabetes, or heart disease for years but then get infected with COVID-19 and die quickly.

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/need-extra-precautions/people-with-medical-conditions.html

httpss://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/excess_deaths.htm

Tell me SkyWookie do you suffer from any these conditions? If you do and mange to catch COVID-19 your chances of survival decrease greatly and even if you do survive chances are your quality of life would most likely never be the same again.

SkyWookie
05-04-21, 21:29
Dude the CDC see people who died of or with COVID-19 one and the same because again they would been alive if they not catch COVID-19 plus the majority who died are not stage 4 cancer patients but people with pre existing conditions that are not immediate fatal such as people with heart conditions, asthma, pulmonary hypertension, diabetes, down syndrome, hiv, weakened immune system, obesity, people who smoke heavily, pregnancy. People who live with obesity, diabetes, or heart disease for years but then get infected with COVID-19 and die quickly.

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/need-extra-precautions/people-with-medical-conditions.html

httpss://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/excess_deaths.htm

Tell me SkyWookie do you suffer from any these conditions? If you do and mange to catch COVID-19 your chances of survival decrease greatly and even if you do survive chances are your quality of life would most likely never be the same again.People with hours to live from terminal illnesses were catching covid in the hospitals in NY and instead of putting on the death cert. That they died of cancer they put they died of covid because of the profits, the extra gov. Money they got. Did they die of covid? Did the covid affect their death? Did they even have covid?

It's estimated over half the covid deaths were forged by hospitals to get money. Did you notice nobody died of heart attack or stroke last year, only covid! Again the covid numbers are grossly exaggerated by at least a multiple of 10.

Ren Man
05-04-21, 21:55
Let's see what the AZ election audit shows. There are credible reports from thousands of witnesses of voter fraud. If you are right, what are you afraid of?That's bullshit and you know it.

SkyWookie
05-04-21, 22:02
That's bullshit and you know it.Here in Georgia election day was hot and sunny and democrats were walking around will cold water asking "will you vote for biden for a cold water?" I saw it with my own eyes, we all know liberals will lie, cheat and steal to get their way so don't be surprised when the investigation shows widespread voter fraud by democrats.

Jrody1
05-04-21, 22:59
Let's see what the AZ election audit shows. There are credible reports from thousands of witnesses of voter fraud. If you are right, what are you afraid of?I am looking forward to the results of a full audit. I am pretty sure if it goes all the way through without any hiccups we'll see some disturbing things. As always they'll create a distraction to get people side tracked from the results of the audit. Hell they are trying to block an audit still to this day and in my opinion it is because they have something to hide. Georgia needs an audit as well. No one likes the current administration LOL. Not even the retards whom I told not to vote for the fool still did and now regret it. Funny its been less that 5 months and its been a disaster so far.

Jrody1
05-04-21, 23:41
Lockdowns have had catastrophic effects. It has contributed to an increase in suicides, drug abuse, unemployment surges. The increase in suicides amongst children was disturbing and some did it live on zoom calls in class. The list goes on. Government over reach at its finest. Fabricate a crisis to push bs. Vaccine passports were being distributed to states 20 months before covid even happened LMFAO. Let that sink in. Most people that are susceptible to covid are people whom are obese, have 2-3 medical complications etc. You do more harm than good to your body by being paranoid and avoiding people. Most people don't know how to take care of their own immune system or body hence we have dumbasses who still wear mask like idiots. Face shields on as if we don't absorb anything through our skin, eye glands, hair follicles etc. Covid only has full effect when standing up and covid moves in a straight line face ass mofos LOL. People wearing see through mask made of plastic. Can make a fortune with this ignorant dumb mofos. Keep your immune system up to aide your body at fending off infections.

A German charity organization requested a lab to test a face mask that a child had been wearing for 8 hours. The test yielded 82 bacterial colonies and 4 mold colonies. Funny how you'll never hear about these test on MSM outlets. Your body expels carbon dioxide and other toxins and here someone is trapping all that in a mask and breathing it all back in. As if that is good for the body. Hence right now and this happened to a few friends of mine. One got rotting gums and is now required by the doctor not to wear a dam mask like a clown. Also kept getting sick. Decreased oxygen intake does increase cortisol levels which also does have negative effects on ones immune system. A few others developed a cough that would not go away and it turns out to be an infection. Of course you have fake news sources trying to debunk reality and say wear 2 3 mask on your face LOL. I've seen people do it. Absolutely stupid. Here is a link going to many case studies https://aapsonline.org/mask-facts/.

Covid death numbers are over inflated BTW. How they count covid infections and deaths is pretty abysmal to say the least. For instance if I (hypothetically speaking) have covid and I have 10 other people I interact regularly. They'll count those other 10 as positive cases even if they don't have covid LOL. If a person dies from a car accident, gun shot wound etc. and have covid in their system. It is counted as a covid death. Hell the Flu is mistaken for covid in these test. All this stuff is a way to instill fear to control the masses. If people were to exercises, stay in shape, eat right and supplement the right herbs or vitamins for immune system support. Over 1 year later and people want to remain ignorant asf and still give heed to news ha.

Sgt Soros
05-05-21, 08:57
I am looking forward to the results of a full audit. I am pretty sure if it goes all the way through without any hiccups we'll see some disturbing things. As always they'll create a distraction to get people side tracked from the results of the audit. Hell they are trying to block an audit still to this day and in my opinion it is because they have something to hide. Georgia needs an audit as well. No one likes the current administration LOL. Not even the retards whom I told not to vote for the fool still did and now regret it. Funny its been less that 5 months and its been a disaster so far.FYI, Georgia had THREE vote recounts that confirmed Biden won Georgia. Georgia Republican Secretary of State Brad Ratffensperger announced “It’s been a long 34 days since the election on Nov. 3,“. We have now counted legally cast ballots three times, and the results remain unchanged.” Biden won!

https://www.ajc.com/politics/election/georgia-recount-confirms-biden-win-again-but-trump-still-battling/OZGAOQCMKVFG7G43L5PSF3BNHM/

TheRabbit
05-05-21, 09:01
I am looking forward to the results of a full audit. I am pretty sure if it goes all the way through without any hiccups we'll see some disturbing things. As always they'll create a distraction to get people side tracked from the results of the audit. Hell they are trying to block an audit still to this day and in my opinion it is because they have something to hide. Georgia needs an audit as well. The lead company conducting the GOP's audit is a Florida security company called Cyber Ninjas, which has no experience with elections. Cyber Ninjas' CEO, Doug Logan, however, does have a history of spreading pro-Trump conspiracy theories about the 2020 election.

After a state court ordered Cyber Ninjas to disclose how it is conducting this so-called audit, a subcontractor revealed that the process involves weighing ballots, examining them under a microscope, and examining the "thickness or feel" of individual ballots in order to identify "questionable ballots" that need to be examined by a "lead forensic examiner" and then "removed from the batch and sent for further analysis. ".

And then there's a giant mystery involving ultraviolet lights.

As part of the audit, according to a document laying out the process for examining ballots, workers are required to place ballots "under UV-B and UV-A source" to compare the illuminated ballots to "representative specimens. " It's not at all clear what exposing the ballots to UV light is supposed to accomplish a coalition of election experts wrote the Justice Department asking it to send observers to monitor this quizzical audit, and one of their concerns is that "ultraviolet light causes not only paper to deteriorate, but also leads to the deterioration of marks on paper ballots. ".

Yeah these people sound like they are competent and are not trying not to have Trump wins this audit by cheating... Give me a break, the town fool can see that this is nothing but a sham.

Sgt Soros
05-05-21, 09:02
Lockdowns have had catastrophic effects. It has contributed to an increase in suicides, drug abuse, unemployment surges. The increase in suicides amongst children was disturbing and some did it live on zoom calls in class. The list goes on. Government over reach at its finest. Fabricate a crisis to push bs. Vaccine passports were being distributed to states 20 months before covid even happened LMFAO. Let that sink in. Most people that are susceptible to covid are people whom are obese, have 2-3 medical complications etc. You do more harm than good to your body by being paranoid and avoiding people. Most people don't know how to take care of their own immune system or body hence we have dumbasses who still wear mask like idiots. Face shields on as if we don't absorb anything through our skin, eye glands, hair follicles etc. Covid only has full effect when standing up and covid moves in a straight line face ass mofos LOL. People wearing see through mask made of plastic. Can make a fortune with this ignorant dumb mofos. Keep your immune system up to aide your body at fending off infections.

A German charity organization requested a lab to test a face mask that a child had been wearing for 8 hours. The test yielded 82 bacterial colonies and 4 mold colonies. Funny how you'll never hear about these test on MSM outlets. Your body expels carbon dioxide and other toxins and here someone is trapping all that in a mask and breathing it all back in. As if that is good for the body. Hence right now and this happened to a few friends of mine. One got rotting gums and is now required by the doctor not to wear a dam mask like a clown. Also kept getting sick. Decreased oxygen intake does increase cortisol levels which also does have negative effects on ones immune system. A few others developed a cough that would not go away and it turns out to be an infection. Of course you have fake news sources trying to debunk reality and say wear 2 3 mask on your face LOL. I've seen people do it. Absolutely stupid. Here is a link going to many case studies https://aapsonline.org/mask-facts/.

Covid death numbers are over inflated BTW. How they count covid infections and deaths is pretty abysmal to say the least. For instance if I (hypothetically speaking) have covid and I have 10 other people I interact regularly. They'll count those other 10 as positive cases even if they don't have covid LOL. If a person dies from a car accident, gun shot wound etc. and have covid in their system. It is counted as a covid death. Hell the Flu is mistaken for covid in these test. All this stuff is a way to instill fear to control the masses. If people were to exercises, stay in shape, eat right and supplement the right herbs or vitamins for immune system support. Over 1 year later and people want to remain ignorant asf and still give heed to news ha.Here's a very appropriate analogy. See attached image.

SkyWookie
05-05-21, 09:02
FYI, Georgia had THREE vote recounts that confirmed Biden won Georgia. Georgia Republican Secretary of State Brad Ratffensperger announced Its been a long 34 days since the election on Nov. 3,. We have now counted legally cast ballots three times, and the results remain unchanged. Biden won!

https://www.ajc.com/politics/election/georgia-recount-confirms-biden-win-again-but-trump-still-battling/OZGAOQCMKVFG7G43L5PSF3BNHM/You are right, Biden won Georgia, although tens of thousands of democrats are wishing they had voted differently, but I tried telling democrats I knew how horrible and overreaching the dems would be if elected they didn't listen and now democrats all over the country by the millions are wishing they hadn't voted Biden, but again too little too late.

TheRabbit
05-05-21, 09:13
Here in Georgia election day was hot and sunny and democrats were walking around will cold water asking "will you vote for biden for a cold water?" So your saying that the people of Georgia are easily swayed by a cold bottle of water (which cost about a dollar), even the hard core republicans?

TheRabbit
05-05-21, 09:31
Lockdowns have had catastrophic effects. It has contributed to an increase in suicides, drug abuse, The increase in suicides amongst children was disturbing and some did it live on zoom calls in class. The list goes on. Government over reach at its finest. Fabricate a crisis to push bs.
You got any stats from reliable sources to back all of that up?


Vaccine passports were being distributed to states 20 months before covid even happened LMFAO. You have any proof this is true?


A German charity organization requested a lab to test a face mask that a child had been wearing for 8 hours. The test yielded 82 bacterial colonies and 4 mold colonies. Funny how you'll never hear about these test on MSM outlets. Your body expels carbon dioxide and other toxins and here someone is trapping all that in a mask and breathing it all back in. As if that is good for the body. Hence right now and this happened to a few friends of mine. One got rotting gums and is now required by the doctor not to wear a dam mask like a clown. Also kept getting sick. Decreased oxygen intake does increase cortisol levels which also does have negative effects on ones immune system. A few others developed a cough that would not go away and it turns out to be an infection.All of this is false and been disproven and I think it's very likely your friend just has bad dental care.


ost people that are susceptible to covid are people whom are obese, have 2-3 medical complications etc. So your saying we shouldn't care if COVID-19 kills off only the obese, elderly, sick, and undesirables?

TheRabbit
05-05-21, 10:09
People with hours to live from terminal illnesses were catching covid in the hospitals in NY and instead of putting on the death cert. That they died of cancer they put they died of covid because of the profits, the extra gov. Money they got. Did they die of covid? Did the covid affect their death? Did they even have covid?
Pretty sure most of them did had COVID-19 and once again the majority who died are not are not terminal ill patients but people with pre existing conditions that are not immediate fatal such as people with heart conditions, asthma, pulmonary hypertension, diabetes, down syndrome, hiv, weakened immune system, obesity, people who smoke heavily, pregnancy.

In New York there were 50,000+ deaths due to the virus and I am damn sure that most of them were not terminal ill who were hours away from death.


It's estimated over half the covid deaths were forged by hospitals to get money.There's no proof this is true and even if it was it's certainly a fraction, not 50 percent.


Did you notice nobody died of heart attack or stroke last year, only covid!Oh people died but the reason why the numbers are low officially is the majority are staying home due to fear of the virus.

https://www.dicardiology.com/content/covid-caused-major-decline-heart-attack-patients-seeking-care

RogerOver
05-05-21, 11:06
I am looking forward to the results of a full audit. I am pretty sure if it goes all the way through without any hiccups we'll see some disturbing things. As always they'll create a distraction to get people side tracked from the results of the audit. Hell they are trying to block an audit still to this day and in my opinion it is because they have something to hide. Georgia needs an audit as well. No one likes the current administration LOL. Not even the retards whom I told not to vote for the fool still did and now regret it. Funny its been less that 5 months and its been a disaster so far.The only thing this post proves is that you don't know any intelligent people. Which shouldn't be surprising since you don't seem too bright, and smart people don't like to hang out with idiots unless it's amusing.

Jrody1
05-05-21, 16:48
The only thing this post proves is that you don't know any intelligent people. Which shouldn't be surprising since you don't seem too bright, and smart people don't like to hang out with idiots unless it's amusing."I'm not to bright". What an insult to my intelligence in the things that I do know. LOL. So you're trying to call people whom are critical of what happened. "Unintelligent" LOL. What a century we are in where people can't think for themselves. Oh the news said there was no fraud so there was no fraud. Who cares about video evidence of people committing fraud and a plethora of shady things happening. Let the audit happen so you can prove the doubters wrong. What's wrong with that? I have smart intelligent friends whom are quite up there in places and have the same sentiment. Latinos, AAs, Asians Caucasians etc. To define ones intellect on their opinion based on factual information and evidence. Is pretty dumb. Thanks bro for calling us "dumb" bahaha.

Jrody1
05-05-21, 16:54
You got any stats from reliable sources to back all of that up?Bro do you know how to do fucking research? Your literally making a fool of yourself. There are countless studies about this shit and its not even a fucking game. Suicide on the rise in our children is due to the fact that their mental estate has gone down significantly. Children are suppose to interact with other children etc. That is how they develop. Sheesh. Here is a fucking study bro. There are people who lost everything and that in turn caused them to take their own life. The CDC even conducted a study of their own. They found that over a quarter of young adults ages 18-24 contemplated suicide in the previous month, in large part due to the pandemic and lockdowns. NEXT.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33811706/

https://fee.org/articles/harvard-researchers-nearly-half-of-young-adults-showing-signs-of-depression-amid-pandemic/


You have any proof this is true?Bro RESEARCH. You have the internet at your finger tips 24 hours 7 days a week.

The 'European Commission' – the executive body of Europe – first published a proposal for vaccine passports on April 26 2018. Buried deep in a document dealing with 'Strengthened Cooperation against Vaccine Preventable Diseases', the proposal was essentially ignored by the mainstream media. Bruh I have said it over and over in this forum. One thing I am not is a person who spreads fallacies and bullshit. I hate liars with a passion FYI. Your welcome for doing your homework LOL.

Here is the European commissions pdf document bro https://ec.europa.eu/transparency/regdoc/rep/1/2018/EN/COM-2018-244-F1-EN-MAIN-PART-1.PDF.

NEXT bahaha.


All of this is false and been disproven and I think it's very likely your friend just has bad dental care.Oh my lord. Sure sherlock. The friends I am talking about are wealthier than me and you're saying they don't know how to take care of themselves? BAHAHAHAAA LOOL. Yo did you do any research before commenting?

Here are some articles. READ.

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/mask-mouth-dentists-warn-prolonged-use-of-masks-leading-to-poor-oral-hygiene

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8604639/Dentists-says-mask-wearing-causing-tooth-decay-gum-disease.html

Thousands of people have rotting gums and teeth bruh. "Disproven" where? Foolish asf. When you where a mask you are breathing in back all that carbon dioxide back into your mouth and lungs. It is almost the same as locking yourself in a garage with the car running. Got to be kidding me on how ignorant you are. You must believe in vaccines when thousands of people are having bad side effects, one woman got paralyzed from taking the vaccine in Tennessee. Hell a young doctor who played soccer. Healthy etc. died after taking the vax. My friend who just got it is also feeling weird and has been on and off lately. Also for the mask I linked a website that has multiple case studies about mask.


So your saying we shouldn't care if COVID-19 kills off only the obese, elderly, sick, and undesirables?Why are you putting words in my post? Aka words in my mouth. Typical democrat LOL. Almost all the time I debate with a liberal they end up saying things I never even mention. Where in the hell did I say don't care about these people? People hire up don't give a fuck about them. Hell why don't you ask the people who developed this strain of SARs. Secondly these people are the "undesirables of society" if you want to look at it from a "Elites" perspective who wants to "save the planet". Why don't you look into somethings for once? Who are the primary people that have a major strain on our health industry and quite frankly our resources? Do you know 30 k + obese people die a month?? Did you know that?

Your forgetting one thing that matters and that is personal responsibility. People are responsible for their own health and the choices that they make. You want to get obese asf, smoke a lot, drink a lot etc. That is their problem and what comes of it is their fault. No one else's fault. Your talking about a disease that has over a 99 percent survival rate from ages 18-60. In kids barely anything. In the elderly population it is over 94 percent survival rate. "Where the stats At?" . This stat find it. Do some factually based research rather than view Main stream outlets for news. Facts over feelings any day. Should ask why Cuomo deliberately put covid patients in nursing homes with the elderly with compromised immune systems? Hell they are doing an investigation on that last time I checked.

Jrody1
05-05-21, 17:00
Here's a very appropriate analogy. See attached image.Pretty childish analogy must I say. Fun fact. The states with no lockdowns, no mask mandates and shit have less covid deaths, less new cases etc. Shall we compare crime stats of states with lockdowns and others with no lockdowns?

Proves my fucking point about mask effecting peoples immune systems. Your not even getting enough oxygen into your body by wearing one. To top things off your breathing in carbon dioxide that your body is expelling back into your lungs. This is causing people to get sick as I stated.

Fun fact for your about mask. Take a mask put it on. Fart. Tell me if you smell it. If you do. How the hell do you believe that shit is blocking covid? A mask to covid is like a mosquito flying through a chain linked fence. Its that ineffective. Lockdowns do not work and have caused more problems rather than being a solution.

Jrody1
05-05-21, 17:02
FYI, Georgia had THREE vote recounts that confirmed Biden won Georgia. Georgia Republican Secretary of State Brad Ratffensperger announced Its been a long 34 days since the election on Nov. 3,. We have now counted legally cast ballots three times, and the results remain unchanged. Biden won!

https://www.ajc.com/politics/election/georgia-recount-confirms-biden-win-again-but-trump-still-battling/OZGAOQCMKVFG7G43L5PSF3BNHM/A forensic audit and a recount are two entirely separate things. An audit would yield an entirely separate result. It is used to find legitimate and illegitimately cast votes. That is the whole point. A recount just recounts all the votes whether legitimate or not. Hell lots not negate the fact that there were underage kids, felons, dead people etc voting in the GA election which would have been deducted from Bidens votes. Nothing was done about it. Seriously?? You must be a proud supporter of dementia in chief my friend. LOL.

Jrody1
05-05-21, 17:05
The lead company conducting the GOP's audit is a Florida security company called Cyber Ninjas, which has no experience with elections. Cyber Ninjas' CEO, Doug Logan, however, does have a history of spreading pro-Trump conspiracy theories about the 2020 election.

After a state court ordered Cyber Ninjas to disclose how it is conducting this so-called audit, a subcontractor revealed that the process involves weighing ballots, examining them under a microscope, and examining the "thickness or feel" of individual ballots in order to identify "questionable ballots" that need to be examined by a "lead forensic examiner" and then "removed from the batch and sent for further analysis. ".

And then there's a giant mystery involving ultraviolet lights.

As part of the audit, according to a document laying out the process for examining ballots, workers are required to place ballots "under UV-B and UV-A source" to compare the illuminated ballots to "representative specimens. " It's not at all clear what exposing the ballots to UV light is supposed to accomplish a coalition of election experts wrote the Justice Department asking it to send observers to monitor this quizzical audit, and one of their concerns is that "ultraviolet light causes not only paper to deteriorate, but also leads to the deterioration of marks on paper ballots. ".

Yeah these people sound like they are competent and are not trying not to have Trump wins this audit by cheating... Give me a break, the town fool can see that this is nothing but a sham.Cyber Ninjas is one of 4 firms bruh LOL. Get a grip. A company who hasn't conducted an audit before can conduct an audit if they have meticulous process. Companies who are related to analyzing paper etc. could do audits. As they can find digital imperfections to determine whether or not a ballot is legit or not. Why are you just regurgitating what you find on the news bahaha. You mention none of the other 3. You just point out one conducting an audit. "Conspiracy theories" . Dam. Ya don't say hmmmmlmao. It is kinda funny how a lot of "conspiracy theories" have turned out to be true. Isn't that quite funny?

Jrody1
05-05-21, 17:18
You are right, Biden won Georgia, although tens of thousands of democrats are wishing they had voted differently, but I tried telling democrats I knew how horrible and overreaching the dems would be if elected they didn't listen and now democrats all over the country by the millions are wishing they hadn't voted Biden, but again too little too late.Bahaha LOL you can say that again. We in the Latino and people in the black community tend to vote majority Democrat. Once shit started going down hill you see prominent people wishing they didn't vote for the fool. Hell some people didn't know certain things and if they knew they stated they would have never voted for him. Quite funny. I used to be a dumb Democrat who believed in their false promises. All they do is say shit with their mouth and their actions is totally different. Or they just implement shitty stuff. Bo bo Biden is just a puppet. He doesn't even know what he is doing. I wonder if people pay attention. We had a good chunk of low information voters but also last election we had the highest amount of Latino, AA etc. who ever voted for a republican candidate. Pretty dam awesome. 2022 election is going to be dam awesome. A lot of people are waking up. Biden literally being a dictator by signing a fuck ton of executive orders. People were shocked LOL and its not stopping.

You know to touch on Biden winning. Democrats lost a whole bunch of seats, republicans gained a ton of seats yet and Trump won 95% Of Bellwether Counties. Yet he lost. Statically impossible but I digress. Time to adapt to the new playing field. Wonder if everyone is going to be happy about increased taxes LOL. I hope GA becomes a 2 A sanctuary state just to protect us from stupid Executive Orders.

Bullett64
05-05-21, 19:07
A recount just recounts all the votes whether legitimate or not. Hell lots not negate the fact that there were underage kids, felons, dead people etc voting in the GA election which would have been deducted from Bidens votes. Nothing was done about it. Seriously?? You must be a proud supporter of dementia in chief my friend. LOL.So no "kids felons, dead people, etc.) voted for Trump? These "audits" are simply ploys by the pro-Trump folks to change the results of the election by any means possible.

If these audits were legitimate you wouldn't have let slip that there sole purpose is to deduct votes only from President Biden.

Name calling does not support your case, in fact it makes it even weaker than it actually is. And putting "LOL" at the end doesn't make it either accurate or cute.

Joe Biiden is the President of the United States. Live with it. You can change that in four years.

Sgt Soros
05-05-21, 19:08
You are right, Biden won Georgia, although tens of thousands of democrats are wishing they had voted differently, but I tried telling democrats I knew how horrible and overreaching the dems would be if elected they didn't listen and now democrats all over the country by the millions are wishing they hadn't voted Biden, but again too little too late.Well, I'm not sure which Democrats you're polling but the "credible" polls show 90% of Democrats approve of Biden, while 8% disapprove. Among independents, 51% approve and 39% disapprove. Also more than half of Americans approve of President Joe Biden after nearly 100 days on the job, according to Reuters / Ipsos polling, a level of support that his Republican predecessor Donald Trump NEVER achieved in his first 100 days.

Sgt Soros
05-05-21, 19:37
A forensic audit and a recount are two entirely separate things. An audit would yield an entirely separate result. It is used to find legitimate and illegitimately cast votes. That is the whole point. A recount just recounts all the votes whether legitimate or not. Hell lots not negate the fact that there were underage kids, felons, dead people etc voting in the GA election which would have been deducted from Bidens votes. Nothing was done about it. Seriously?? You must be a proud supporter of dementia in chief my friend. LOL.Well, Georgia's Republican secretary of state has opened a formal investigation into Donald Trump's efforts to overturn the 2020 election results in the state. The only fraud that occurred in Georgia was Trump calling the GOP Secretary of State, Brad Raffensperger, to ask him to ILLEGALLY find 11780 votes. It's on tape. LOL.

“The investigation comes after Trump was recorded in a 2 January phone call pressuring Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger to overturn the state’s election results based on false voter fraud claims.”

2016 Georgia Code
Title 21 - Elections
Chapter 2 - Elections and Primaries Generally
Article 15 - Miscellaneous Offenses
§ 21-2-604. Criminal solicitation to commit election fraud; penalties
Universal Citation: GA Code § 21-2-604 (2016)
(a)
(1) A person commits the offense of criminal solicitation to commit
election fraud in the first degree when, with intent that another person
engage in conduct constituting a felony under this article, he or she
solicits, requests, commands, importunes, or otherwise attempts to cause
the other person to engage in such conduct.

Sgt Soros
05-05-21, 19:51
Pretty childish analogy must I say. Fun fact. The states with no lockdowns, no mask mandates and shit have less covid deaths, less new cases etc. Shall we compare crime stats of states with lockdowns and others with no lockdowns?

Proves my fucking point about mask effecting peoples immune systems. Your not even getting enough oxygen into your body by wearing one. To top things off your breathing in carbon dioxide that your body is expelling back into your lungs. This is causing people to get sick as I stated.

Fun fact for your about mask. Take a mask put it on. Fart. Tell me if you smell it. If you do. How the hell do you believe that shit is blocking covid? A mask to covid is like a mosquito flying through a chain linked fence. Its that ineffective. Lockdowns do not work and have caused more problems rather than being a solution.We currently have two COVID hotspots, India and Brazil. The leaders in both these countries are resisting lockdowns. Let's watch and see the public health outcomes in these two countries as COVID runs unchecked. Unfortunately, I predict we will see COVID deaths on an unimaginable scale.

HobbyMan51
05-05-21, 20:35
So no "kids felons, dead people, etc.) voted for Trump? These "audits" are simply ploys by the pro-Trump folks to change the results of the election by any means possible.

If these audits were legitimate you wouldn't have let slip that there sole purpose is to deduct votes only from President Biden.

Name calling does not support your case, in fact it makes it even weaker than it actually is. And putting "LOL" at the end doesn't make it either accurate or cute.

Joe Biiden is the President of the United States. Live with it. You can change that in four years.Like 2022. By then kamala will be your president. See if you can live with that.

Ren Man
05-05-21, 21:02
Here in Georgia election day was hot and sunny and democrats were walking around will cold water asking "will you vote for biden for a cold water?" I saw it with my own eyes, we all know liberals will lie, cheat and steal to get their way so don't be surprised when the investigation shows widespread voter fraud by democrats.That's also bullshit. I was a volunteer poll watcher at several locations. Better get your eyes checked.

TheRabbit
05-05-21, 21:09
Proves my fucking point about mask effecting peoples immune systems. Your not even getting enough oxygen into your body by wearing one. To top things off your breathing in carbon dioxide that your body is expelling back into your lungs. This is causing people to get sick as I stated.This has beed debunked, it's not true.

https://www.henryford.com/blog/2020/11/debunking-covid19-mask-myths

https://www.forbes.com/sites/victoriaforster/2020/05/17/no-wearing-a-mask-to-protect-against-covid-19-coronavirus-will-not-weaken-your-immune-system/



Fun fact for your about mask. Take a mask put it on. Fart. Tell me if you smell it. If you do. How the hell do you believe that shit is blocking covid? A mask to covid is like a mosquito flying through a chain linked fence. Its that ineffective.The CDC disagree with you as masks are very good to help kept COVID-19 numbers down along with social distancing.

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/science/science-briefs/masking-science-sars-cov2.html

Plus masks have been around for centuries, if they didn't work against virus and other diseases people would have stop using them long ago.


Lockdowns do not work and have caused more problems rather than being a solution.Iceland, Taiwan, Singapore, South Korea, New Zealand, Australia, Liberia, and Vietnam would disagree with you.

SkyWookie
05-05-21, 21:58
That's also bullshit. I was a volunteer poll watcher at several locations. Better get your eyes checked.I know several people who voted at different polling locations, some of them democrats that experienced the same exact thing. You act like a typical left wing nut. Just because you don't like it, you say it's not true. You are a troll that acts like a cartoon Mr. Ren and stimpy.

TheRabbit
05-05-21, 23:10
Bro do you know how to do fucking research? Your literally making a fool of yourself. There are countless studies about this shit and its not even a fucking game. Suicide on the rise in our children is due to the fact that their mental estate has gone down significantly. Children are suppose to interact with other children etc. That is how they develop. Sheesh. Here is a fucking study bro. There are people who lost everything and that in turn caused them to take their own life. The CDC even conducted a study of their own. They found that over a quarter of young adults ages 18-24 contemplated suicide in the previous month, in large part due to the pandemic and lockdowns. NEXT.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33811706/

https://fee.org/articles/harvard-researchers-nearly-half-of-young-adults-showing-signs-of-depression-amid-pandemic/

Bro RESEARCH. You have the internet at your finger tips 24 hours 7 days a week.
Suicide among children / teens have been on the rise since 2007 in fact more than 6200 people between the ages of 15 to 24 committed suicide in 2017.

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/nation/suicide-among-teens-and-young-adults-reaches-highest-level-since-2000

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/health/2020/09/11/youth-suicide-rate-increases-cdc-report-finds/3463549001/

https://www.wsj.com/articles/youth-suicide-rate-rises-56-in-decade-cdc-says-11571284861

So yeah Suicide on the rise in our children isn't anything new.



The 'European Commission' the executive body of Europe first published a proposal for vaccine passports on April 26 2018. Buried deep in a document dealing with 'Strengthened Cooperation against Vaccine Preventable Diseases', the proposal was essentially ignored by the mainstream media. Bruh I have said it over and over in this forum. One thing I am not is a person who spreads fallacies and bullshit. I hate liars with a passion FYI. Your welcome for doing your homework LOL.

Here is the European commissions pdf document bro https://ec.europa.eu/transparency/regdoc/rep/1/2018/EN/COM-2018-244-F1-EN-MAIN-PART-1.PDF.
You stated that vaccine passports were being distributed to the STATES, not the EU and reading that transcript there's clearly nothing sinister going on plus vaccine passport have been around since the 1700's they are not new to the world.


Here are some articles. READ.

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/mask-mouth-dentists-warn-prolonged-use-of-masks-leading-to-poor-oral-hygiene

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8604639/Dentists-says-mask-wearing-causing-tooth-decay-gum-disease.html

Thousands of people have rotting gums and teeth bruh. You know there's a way to deal with Mask mouth. Wash and brush your teeth more.


When you where a mask you are breathing in back all that carbon dioxide back into your mouth and lungs. It is almost the same as locking yourself in a garage with the car running.That's not the same. AT ALL.


You must believe in vaccines when thousands of people are having bad side effects, one woman got paralyzed from taking the vaccine in Tennessee. Hell a young doctor who played soccer. Healthy etc. died after taking the vax. My friend who just got it is also feeling weird and has been on and off lately. 200 million people have taken the vaccine (including me) and only a few thousands people are only having minor bad side effects and a few extreme cases. That's pretty ideal.


Hell why don't you ask the people who developed this strain of SARs. This isn't true and you have no proof.

Bullett64
05-05-21, 23:32
Like 2022. By then kamala will be your president. See if you can live with that.Actually 2024.

WE (the country) survived President Trump. We will survive President Biden, and if necessary President Harris.

I do not buy the doom and gloom scenario from either side.

TheRabbit
05-05-21, 23:43
Cyber Ninjas is one of 4 firms bruh LOL. Cyber Ninjas are the ones in charges of the audit their not working with the other firms their giving them the orders.


A company who hasn't conducted an audit before can conduct an audit if they have meticulous process. ompanies who are related to analyzing paper etc. could do audits. As they can find digital imperfections to determine whether or not a ballot is legit or not.Which they do not have and are not doing given what has come out of how they are operating this "audit" .

Like example John Brakey, an official helping oversee the "audit" says "auditors" are looking for bamboo fibers because of a rumor that 40 k ballots were smuggled from Asia.

Sgt Soros
05-06-21, 05:57
Cyber Ninjas are the ones in charges of the audit their not working with the other firms their giving them the orders.

Which they do not have and are not doing given what has come out of how they are operating this "audit" .

Like example John Brakey, an official helping oversee the "audit" says "auditors" are looking for bamboo fibers because of a rumor that 40 k ballots were smuggled from Asia.It gets worse, the Cyber Ninja's are using UV lights on ballots. I guess a variation of the thesis pushed by king trumpollonni to shove UV lights up the butt hole to cure COVID.

Its not at all clear what exposing the ballots to UV light is supposed to accomplish a coalition of election experts wrote the Justice Department asking it to send observers to monitor this quizzical audit, and one of their concerns is that ultraviolet light causes not only paper to deteriorate, but also leads to the deterioration of marks on paper ballots.'

Nevertheless, Trump reportedly talks constantly about how these UV lights might reveal something that will undercut Bidens victory.

https://www.vox.com/22417310/arizona-audit-ballots-cyber-ninjas-uv-lights-qanon-conspiracy-theory-vote-suppression-fraud

HobbyMan51
05-06-21, 07:17
The Rabbit has an answer for everything. EVERYTHING. He is all knowing, all seeing, all wise, and wears a funny hat. You will NEVER get him to acknowledge that he might be even slightly mistaken about ANYTHING. I would give it up, JRody. Your valiant efforts are wasted here.

TheRabbit
05-06-21, 07:41
You want to know how incompetent they are, they're not going to be able finish in time.

https://www.azcentral.com/story/news/politics/arizona/2021/05/05/arizona-audit-fair-official-says-extending-recount-not-feasible/4960234001/

"Though tallying began April 23, the Senate's liaison estimated that only about 200,000 ballots were counted as of Wednesday and that the effort likely would extend beyond the May 14 end date of the Senate's lease on the facility.

The Republican-controlled Senate faces a hard deadline, however. When the Senate moved in, the coliseum was already booked for Phoenix Union High School District graduation ceremonies scheduled for several days later in May.

Experts who have run or overseen elections have questioned the accuracy of the ballot counting process, which differs significantly from the methods used for audits in Arizona. And several experts interviewed by The Arizona Republic were skeptical that Senate contractors could tally all 2. 1 million ballots in just a few weeks. ".

They are so busy checking each ballot for bamboo that they are now on track to get booted out in a week. Like, when I say that they are so dumb it is not me being facetious or facile. I have moments where I just can't comprehend their lack of planning.

Cherry on top is that this is costing the GOP-led AZ Senate $1,000 per day.

Sgt Soros
05-06-21, 08:04
You want to know how incompetent they are, they're not going to be able finish in time.

https://www.azcentral.com/story/news/politics/arizona/2021/05/05/arizona-audit-fair-official-says-extending-recount-not-feasible/4960234001/

"Though tallying began April 23, the Senate's liaison estimated that only about 200,000 ballots were counted as of Wednesday and that the effort likely would extend beyond the May 14 end date of the Senate's lease on the facility.

The Republican-controlled Senate faces a hard deadline, however. When the Senate moved in, the coliseum was already booked for Phoenix Union High School District graduation ceremonies scheduled for several days later in May.

Experts who have run or overseen elections have questioned the accuracy of the ballot counting process, which differs significantly from the methods used for audits in Arizona. And several experts interviewed by The Arizona Republic were skeptical that Senate contractors could tally all 2. 1 million ballots in just a few weeks. ".

They are so busy checking each ballot for bamboo that they are now on track to get booted out in a week. Like, when I say that they are so dumb it is not me being facetious or facile. I have moments where I just can't comprehend their lack of planning.

Cherry on top is that this is costing the GOP-led AZ Senate $1,000 per day.Interesting, “The U.S. Department of Justice expressed concern Wednesday about ballot security and potential voter intimidation arising from the Republican-controlled Arizona Senate’s unprecedented private recount of the 2020 presidential election results in Maricopa County.”

The election results were certified. This audit is a TV show for the rubes and nothing more than another attempt by trumpollinni and his minions to undermine our democracy.

Ren Man
05-06-21, 17:58
I know several people who voted at different polling locations, some of them democrats that experienced the same exact thing. You act like a typical left wing nut. Just because you don't like it, you say it's not true. You are a troll that acts like a cartoon Mr. Ren and stimpy.And you act like a typical right wing nut job who thrives on lies and misinformation and would believe that bullshit smells like roses if it's coming from your dear leader, the EX narcissist-in-chief.

Biden WON. FAIR AND SQUARE. Deal with it asshole.

SkyWookie
05-06-21, 21:16
And you act like a typical right wing nut job who thrives on lies and misinformation and would believe that bullshit smells like roses if it's coming from your dear leader, the EX narcissist-in-chief.

Biden WON. FAIR AND SQUARE. Deal with it asshole.Yes let the anger out, the anger of knowing you are about as stupid as they come, I can't tell you how many PM's I've gotten from both conservatives and liberals on this board saying you are a jackass lmao. If Trump had won you'd be running around screaming and crying like a little ***** and crying for a recount and to overthrow the president. How do I know? Because that's what bitches like you did in 2016 when Trump won, so get off your high horse you little dick prick and bow down to the man who tells it like it is. So now go back to your daddy that did bad things to you when you were a little boy and take some more punishment.

ComTech42
05-06-21, 21:56
And you act like a typical right wing nut job who thrives on lies and misinformation and would believe that bullshit smells like roses if it's coming from your dear leader, the EX narcissist-in-chief.

Biden WON. FAIR AND SQUARE. Deal with it asshole.Rave on Cat S. T. Politicians are lowest form of human lower than Whale crap. There is no hope for stupid people.

TheRabbit
05-06-21, 23:09
If Trump had won you'd be running around screaming and crying like a little ***** and crying for a recount and to overthrow the president. How do I know? Because that's what bitches like you did in 2016 when Trump won.No they didn't, the democrats did not like the fact Trump won in 2016 but accept it and (mostly) moved on and besides since January 6 2021 Trumpers have done nothing but crying like a little * and crying for a recount and to overthrow president Biden with no proof at all in the slightest.

Sgt Lurker
05-07-21, 06:55
No they didn't, the democrats did not like the fact Trump won in 2016 but accept it and (mostly) moved on and besides since January 6 2021 Trumpers have done nothing but crying like a little * and crying for a recount and to overthrow president Biden with no proof at all in the slightest.How many Demoncrats stood up in the Senate trying to not certify some state election results? How many Demoncrats like Maxine Waters immediately started calling for the Impeachment of Trump before he even had a chance to settle into the White House? Please do not try to rewrite history like so many do.

Sgt Soros
05-07-21, 07:13
How many Demoncrats stood up in the Senate trying to not certify some state election results? How many Demoncrats like Maxine Waters immediately started calling for the Impeachment of Trump before he even had a chance to settle into the White House? Please do not try to rewrite history like so many do.GEESH, a rewrite of history? What a stable genius you are, have you forgotten how the former instigator in chief incited a riot on Congress in a puerile attempt to overturn an election. You trumpkins are no longer defined by your shared beliefs but defined by your shared delusions.

RedneckStud
05-07-21, 08:39
How many Demoncrats stood up in the Senate trying to not certify some state election results? How many Demoncrats like Maxine Waters immediately started calling for the Impeachment of Trump before he even had a chance to settle into the White House? Please do not try to rewrite history like so many do.The answer about the Senate democrats objecting to electoral college results is zero.

SkyWookie
05-07-21, 10:38
No they didn't, the democrats did not like the fact Trump won in 2016 but accept it and (mostly) moved on and besides since January 6 2021 Trumpers have done nothing but crying like a little * and crying for a recount and to overthrow president Biden with no proof at all in the slightest.No they cried about it, democrats including, Rosie Odonnell along with thousands in hollywood alone demanding Trump not be allowed to be sworn in, then immediate fake investigation in hopes of impeaching him even before he was sworn in, 2 years wasted on a fake dossier? And then Nancy and crew trying to impeach him even after biden was reported the winner just out of hate to try to keep him from being able to run in 2024, come on, democrats spent 4 years trying to smear and remove Trump from office. Democrats NEVER accepted it, they fought it for 4 years.

HobbyMan51
05-07-21, 10:38
How many Demoncrats stood up in the Senate trying to not certify some state election results? How many Demoncrats like Maxine Waters immediately started calling for the Impeachment of Trump before he even had a chance to settle into the White House? Please do not try to rewrite history like so many do.The Rabbit lives in a dream world as do several others on this thread. The tragic irony is that they support the very people who will ultimately destroy them. They think that since they profess to be on the "right" side that they will avoid being affected by these monsters. They could not be more mistaken but you will never convince them of it. By the way, The Rabbit's contention that the Democrats "moved" on after the 2016 election is, on its face, one of the more absurd, delusional things he has yet said. Oh they moved on all right. They moved on to doing everything they could possibly do including introducing a "pandemic" to the world and with the help of their media toads to ruin a sitting President even before his administration had even begun. Now we have a pathetic dick face for a president who has done nothing but create chaos and division from his first seconds in office. We all are going to pay for the actions of this fraud. Unfortunately another fraud waits to take his place and much sooner rather than later. Your turn, Rabbit. Grace us with your mindless "wisdom".

RedneckStud
05-07-21, 11:35
No they cried about it, democrats including, Rosie Odonnell along with thousands in hollywood alone demanding Trump not be allowed to be sworn in, then immediate fake investigation in hopes of impeaching him even before he was sworn in, 2 years wasted on a fake dossier? And then Nancy and crew trying to impeach him even after biden was reported the winner just out of hate to try to keep him from being able to run in 2024, come on, democrats spent 4 years trying to smear and remove Trump from office. Democrats NEVER accepted it, they fought it for 4 years.Because Rosie O'Donnell has so much influence on Capitol Hill. LMAO!

SkyWookie
05-07-21, 12:05
Because Rosie O'Donnell has so much influence on Capitol Hill. LMAO!You focused on one lady (who happens to be a nutjob) so I understand but she was accompanied by the rest of Hollywood which does actually influence capital hill as well as regular people. Why people look to celebrities for their opinions is beyond me, you should form your own opinion, but lets not forget the endless articles and interviews of people who were "leaving America" if Trump wasn't removed from office. Let's be honest in that the left did everything legally possible and even made up evidence (steele dossier) to try to get trump out of office because facts are the left can't handle not getting their way.

I have not seen one person who voted against Biden say they were leaving America, instead they said they will do their best to improve it. If anything Liberals want Joe out of office so Kamala (like the wrestler) can impose a more socialist / communist agenda.

Sgt Lurker
05-07-21, 13:20
Good Grief, between you and George. I did make a minor error, they were Demoncrat Congress People, not Senators. Never-the-less, it was the same is this past January.

https://www.cnn.com/2017/01/06/politics/electoral-college-vote-objections/index.html

Vice President Joe Biden repeatedly told objecting congressman that their attempt to disrupt the usually staid moment that their objections were invalid because they did not have the signature of a United States senator. Biden, at times exasperated by the scene, at one point cautioned his fellow Democrats: "It is over. ".

"There is no debate. There is no debate. There is no debate," Biden repeated to Rep. Sheila Jackson Lee, one of the frequent objectors in the Capitol.

Rep. Maxine Watters, D-Calif.

Rep. Sheila Jackson Lee.

Rep. Jamie Raskin of Maryland.

Rep. Pramila Jayapal of Washington.

Rep. Barbara Lee of California brought up voting machines and Russian hacking.

Arizona's Rep. Raul Grijalva rose to object after North Carolina's tally. He tried to object on violations of the Voting Rights Act.

Jackson Lee made another appearance minutes later.

Jackson Lee once again tried to make an objection on the grounds of Russian interference.


The answer about the Senate democrats objecting to electoral college results is zero.

Aaron Hamlet
05-07-21, 13:47
Living rent free in the minds of and triggering the ignorant, disaffected and weak to this day. Wait for when the full forensic audit results from Az and the three other states show the election was stolen via massive fraud. The globalists and their useful idiots will meltdown.

TheRabbit
05-07-21, 13:58
Wait for when the full forensic audit results from Az and the three other states show the election was stolen via massive fraud. The globalists and their useful idiots will meltdown.Did you not read the posts below explaining why this "audit" is a joke that no one sane takes seriously?

TheRabbit
05-07-21, 14:08
The Rabbit's contention that the Democrats "moved" on after the 2016 election is, on its face, one of the more absurd, delusional things he has yet said. Oh they moved on all right. They moved on to doing everything they could possibly do including introducing a "pandemic" to the world and with the help of their media toads to ruin a sitting President even before his administration had even begun. Now we have a pathetic dick face for a president who has done nothing but create chaos and division from his first seconds in office. We all are going to pay for the actions of this fraud. Unfortunately another fraud waits to take his place and much sooner rather than later. Your turn, Rabbit. Grace us with your mindless "wisdom".No they didn't.


with the help of their media toads to ruin a sitting President even before his administration had even begun.No Trump did that all by himself.


Now we have a president who has done nothing but create chaos and division from his first seconds in office. Pretty sure it's the republicans that are causing chaos and division right no. (Mostly to themselves).


We all are going to pay for the actions of this fraud. 🎶There was no fraud. 🎶.

RedneckStud
05-07-21, 14:10
Good Grief, between you and George. I did make a minor error, they were Demoncrat Congress People, not Senators. Never-the-less, it was the same is this past January.

https://www.cnn.com/2017/01/06/politics/electoral-college-vote-objections/index.html

Vice President Joe Biden repeatedly told objecting congressman that their attempt to disrupt the usually staid moment that their objections were invalid because they did not have the signature of a United States senator. Biden, at times exasperated by the scene, at one point cautioned his fellow Democrats: "It is over. ".

"There is no debate. There is no debate. There is no debate," Biden repeated to Rep. Sheila Jackson Lee, one of the frequent objectors in the Capitol.

Rep. Maxine Watters, D-Calif.

Rep. Sheila Jackson Lee.

Rep. Jamie Raskin of Maryland.

Rep. Pramila Jayapal of Washington.

Rep. Barbara Lee of California brought up voting machines and Russian hacking.

Arizona's Rep. Raul Grijalva rose to object after North Carolina's tally. He tried to object on violations of the Voting Rights Act.

Jackson Lee made another appearance minutes later.

Jackson Lee once again tried to make an objection on the grounds of Russian interference.Ok. I can see you are not all that bright, so I will type slow.

It doesn't make a hill of beans if only a representative throws up an objection. It needs to be supported by a senator. That DID NOT HAPPEN IN 2016. It did happen many times over on the 2020 electoral college certification.. Sorry I had to use multisyllabic words. Get out your dictionary.

TheRabbit
05-07-21, 14:27
then immediate fake investigation in hopes of impeaching him even before he was sworn in, 2 years wasted on a fake dossier? The "fake" investigation did not started until May 2017 and also quite a few people went to jail with solid evidence, so no the investigation was not "fake".


And then Nancy and crew trying to impeach him even after biden was reported the winner just out of hate to try to keep him from being able to run in 2024,They had a pretty good reason to... Jan 6, 2021.


democrats spent 4 years trying to smear and remove Trump from office. Democrats NEVER accepted it, they fought it for 4 years.They same can be said of the republicans during the Obama years.

HobbyMan51
05-07-21, 17:48
No they didn't.

No Trump did that all by himself.

Pretty sure it's the republicans that are causing chaos and division right no. (Mostly to themselves).

🎶There was no fraud. 🎶.It's Biden I am referring to, Einstein, not the election. Carry on with your predictable, mindless one-liners.

HobbyMan51
05-07-21, 17:56
Did you not read the posts below explaining why this "audit" is a joke that no one sane takes seriously?If the audit is such a joke then why are you and yours fighting it so intensely? At least 100 million of us don't think it's a joke. Your fear is definitely showing.

Sgt Soros
05-07-21, 18:37
Good Grief, between you and George. I did make a minor error, they were Demoncrat Congress People, not Senators. Never-the-less, it was the same is this past January.

https://www.cnn.com/2017/01/06/politics/electoral-college-vote-objections/index.html

Vice President Joe Biden repeatedly told objecting congressman that their attempt to disrupt the usually staid moment that their objections were invalid because they did not have the signature of a United States senator. Biden, at times exasperated by the scene, at one point cautioned his fellow Democrats: "It is over. ".

"There is no debate. There is no debate. There is no debate," Biden repeated to Rep. Sheila Jackson Lee, one of the frequent objectors in the Capitol.

Rep. Maxine Watters, D-Calif.

Rep. Sheila Jackson Lee.

Rep. Jamie Raskin of Maryland.

Rep. Pramila Jayapal of Washington.

Rep. Barbara Lee of California brought up voting machines and Russian hacking.

Arizona's Rep. Raul Grijalva rose to object after North Carolina's tally. He tried to object on violations of the Voting Rights Act.

Jackson Lee made another appearance minutes later.

Jackson Lee once again tried to make an objection on the grounds of Russian interference.So, you've listed six House Democrats who refused to certify Trump in 2016, yet failed to mention the 121+ Congressional House Republicans plus six Republican Senators who refused to certify Biden winner. Voting NYET, Cruz R-Texas; Hawley, R-Mo. ; Hyde Smith, R-Miss. ; Cynthia Lummis, R-Wyo. ; Marshall, R-Kan. ; Tuberville, R-Ala. ; and Rick Scott, R-Fla.

I present to you a list of the 121 House Republicans who objected to certifying Biden as POTUS.

TheRabbit
05-07-21, 20:14
If the audit is such a joke then why are you and yours fighting it so intensely? Oh I'm not fighting it at all, I know this "audit" is a sham and nothing is going to come from it and most are not fighting that intensely.


At least 100 million of us don't think it's a joke.Pretty sure that number is only in a few thousands spread across the country.

SkyWookie
05-07-21, 22:58
The "fake" investigation did not started until May 2017 and also quite a few people went to jail with solid evidence, so no the investigation was not "fake".

They had a pretty good reason to... Jan 6, 2021.

They same can be said of the republicans during the Obama years.The same can be said of Republicans during Obama admin?. Hmmm don't remember anyone trying to impeach Obama just because they didn't like him. The whole investigation of trump was a fake and based off warrants obtained illegally. The steele dossier was commissioned by Hillary Clinton his opponent starting in 2016 before the election even happened, the democrats were looking to smear trump in the event he won the election, it was planned that way, it was their "backup plan" and again when democrats don't get their way they lie, cheat, and steal by any means necessary to try to get their way.

HobbyMan51
05-07-21, 23:55
Oh I'm not fighting it at all, I know this "audit" is a sham and nothing is going to come from it and most are not fighting that intensely.

Pretty sure that number is only in a few thousands spread across the country.That last statement proves without doubt now that you are truly delusional. And afraid.

Admin2
05-08-21, 00:30
That last statement proves without doubt now that you are truly delusional. And afraid.I think that's the count on the fraud lawsuits at this point, 86-0.

This "audit" is being done in Maricopa County (birther sheriff guy's county) literally couldn't be more biased.

He's not the delusional one.

Ren Man
05-08-21, 05:46
I can't tell you how many PM's I've gotten from both conservatives and liberals on this board saying you are a jackass Oh really? Put up or shut up, dip shit. Funny how after 20+ years on this board, I've never had any negative interaction with anyone until you. Screenshots or it didn't happen.

Why don't you just go back to jerking off to The Art of Deal and leave the political debates to the grown-ups?

TheRabbit
05-08-21, 06:55
The same can be said of Republicans during Obama admin?. Hmmm don't remember anyone trying to impeach Obama just because they didn't like him. The whole investigation of trump was a fake and based off warrants obtained illegally. The steele dossier was commissioned by Hillary Clinton his opponent starting in 2016 before the election even happened, the democrats were looking to smear trump in the event he won the election, it was planned that way, it was their "backup plan" and again when democrats don't get their way they lie, cheat, and steal by any means necessary to try to get their way.Let me refresh your memory.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Efforts_to_impeach_Barack_Obama


The whole investigation of trump was a fake and based off warrants obtained illegally. The steele dossier was commissioned by Hillary Clinton his opponent starting in 2016 before the election even happened, the democrats were looking to smear trump in the event he won the election, it was planned that way, it was their "backup plan" and again when democrats don't get their way they lie, cheat, and steal by any means necessary to try to get their way.All of this is incorrect and false the investigation was real.

SkyWookie
05-08-21, 10:42
Let me refresh your memory.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Efforts_to_impeach_Barack_Obama

All of this is incorrect and false the investigation was real.Only a left wing radical would quote wikipedia. Wikipedia is like facebook anyone can update the information and make submissions, most wikipedia pages are grossly incorrect including the one you posted. And to refresh your memory Articles of Impeachment were NEVER written and brought to the House floor for consideration. No vote was EVER taken on impeachment of Barack Obama, all of your information is incorrect and you make up lies because you are a troll to this thread.

HobbyMan51
05-08-21, 10:49
I think that's the count on the fraud lawsuits at this point, 86-0.

This "audit" is being done in Maricopa County (birther sheriff guy's county) literally couldn't be more biased.

He's not the delusional one.We'll see about that.

SkyWookie
05-08-21, 12:44
Why don't we talk about the horrible job biden is doing and his goal to raise taxes across the board? Or maybe discuss the impending house and senate flip to red because of the horrible job the dems are doing?

https://www.theepochtimes.com/video-live-q-biden-aims-for-global-tax-hike_3803037.html?&utm_medium=email&utm_source=promotion&utm_campaign=EET0508&utm_term=1for4M-EpochTV&utm_content=newvid2

Aaron Hamlet
05-08-21, 15:09
I think that's the count on the fraud lawsuits at this point, 86-0.

This "audit" is being done in Maricopa County (birther sheriff guy's county) literally couldn't be more biased.

He's not the delusional one.There is no 86-0 when there has been no trials, no evidence put forth in a public hearing. That's more like 0-0, for now. Funny how you tricks extol the virtue of the DOJ and the US court system but only when it regards going after Trump. All other examples are how corrupted and worthless they are. Daddy issues much? I've told you at least twice to stay in your lane, A2. You're a genius when it comes to your sleazy, dirty world of horers and tricks. But outside of that you're nothing but a fucking idiot

Aaron Hamlet
05-08-21, 17:01
This "audit" is being done in Maricopa County (birther sheriff guy's county) literally couldn't be more biased.
Sheriff's a typical drama queen democrat who said, "This audit jeopardizes the entire mission of the Maricopa County Sheriff's Office." You're a fucking idiot, A2.

TheRabbit
05-08-21, 17:22
Sheriff's a democrat who said, "This audit jeopardizes the entire mission of the Maricopa County Sheriff's Office." You're a fucking idiot, A2.He's talking about the previous Sheriff not the current one who still has quite a few supporters in the county.


There is no 86-0 when there has been no trials, no evidence put forth in a public hearing. That's more like 0-0, for now.That's exactly the point the Trumpers had no evidence of fraud so their cases were thrown out of court, so yes it's 86-0.

TheRabbit
05-08-21, 17:35
Why don't we talk about the horrible job biden is doing and his goal to raise taxes across the board? Or maybe discuss the impending house and senate flip to red because of the horrible job the dems are doing?

https://www.theepochtimes.com/video-live-q-biden-aims-for-global-tax-hike_3803037.html?&utm_medium=email&utm_source=promotion&utm_campaign=EET0508&utm_term=1for4M-EpochTV&utm_content=newvid2You got a link from a non biased source to prove your claims?

Frosty Man
05-08-21, 19:01
Why don't we talk about the horrible job biden is doing and his goal to raise taxes across the board? Or maybe discuss the impending house and senate flip to red because of the horrible job the dems are doing?

https://www.theepochtimes.com/video-live-q-biden-aims-for-global-tax-hike_3803037.html?&utm_medium=email&utm_source=promotion&utm_campaign=EET0508&utm_term=1for4M-EpochTV&utm_content=newvid2Your taxes won't go up if you earn less than $400 k. The myth that EVERYONE'S taxes will go up is perpetuated by billionaires who are desperate to build public sentiment against the tax hikes that will largely affect them.

The Epoch Times and similar publications are funded by billionaires.

SkyWookie
05-08-21, 22:57
You got a link from a non biased source to prove your claims?You mean compared to you using Wikepedia as a source?

Admin2
05-08-21, 23:04
There is no 86-0 when there has been no trials, no evidence put forth in a public hearing.This is a joke right? Court after Court after Court has dismissed these bullshit claims. He lost, he lost by a lot, he lost by a lot because he was a shit president. You guys had a chance with John Kasich except you went with the branding guy. Yes, Hillary would have been worse, far worse, that doesn't mean he didn't suck and wasn't a national embarrassment.

He lost, face it.

Niteluvr
05-08-21, 23:23
Your taxes won't go up if you earn less than $400 k. The myth that EVERYONE'S taxes will go up is perpetuated by billionaires who are desperate to build public sentiment against the tax hikes that will largely affect them.

The Epoch Times and similar publications are funded by billionaires.Is the amount actually $400 k? Thought it was lower, something like $250 k which, even then, would be a nice dream for me.

As a side note: Hey Oz, your taxes are going up! (It's fun to give rich guys a hard time).

HobbyMan51
05-09-21, 00:51
This is a joke right? Court after Court after Court has dismissed these bullshit claims. He lost, he lost by a lot, he lost by a lot because he was a shit president. You guys had a chance with John Kasich except you went with the branding guy. Yes, Hillary would have been worse, far worse, that doesn't mean he didn't suck and wasn't a national embarrassment.

He lost, face it.And he wasn't shit president either. You think this fraudulent schmuck we have in there now isn't a national embarrassment, not to mention a global embarrassment? Kasich was a milquetoast that Hillary would have trampled in 2016. Trump was the only one who had guts enough to stand up to her and her party of traitors whether you liked him or not and like it or not this story is far from over, A2.

Sgt Soros
05-09-21, 07:38
This is a joke right? Court after Court after Court has dismissed these bullshit claims. He lost, he lost by a lot, he lost by a lot because he was a shit president. You guys had a chance with John Kasich except you went with the branding guy. Yes, Hillary would have been worse, far worse, that doesn't mean he didn't suck and wasn't a national embarrassment.

He lost, face it. You say Clinton would have been far worse. How so? At the very least, Hillary as POTUS would have responded much more effectively to the COVID pandemic crisis. Regrettably, I voted for the orange haired shit stain (trump) in 2016.

Sgt Lurker
05-09-21, 08:56
I was going to say the same thing but he has such a bad case of TDSyndrome he would not get it.


Only a left wing radical would quote wikipedia. Wikipedia is like facebook anyone can update the information and make submissions, most wikipedia pages are grossly incorrect including the one you posted. And to refresh your memory Articles of Impeachment were NEVER written and brought to the House floor for consideration. No vote was EVER taken on impeachment of Barack Obama, all of your information is incorrect and you make up lies because you are a troll to this thread.

Sgt Lurker
05-09-21, 08:59
I am not going to totally believe that zero of my taxes will go up until that man is out of office.


This is a joke right? Court after Court after Court has dismissed these bullshit claims. He lost, he lost by a lot, he lost by a lot because he was a shit president. You guys had a chance with John Kasich except you went with the branding guy. Yes, Hillary would have been worse, far worse, that doesn't mean he didn't suck and wasn't a national embarrassment.

He lost, face it.

Admin2
05-09-21, 09:51
And he wasn't shit president either. You think this fraudulent schmuck we have in there now isn't a national embarrassment, not to mention a global embarrassment? Kasich was a milquetoast that Hillary would have trampled in 2016. Trump was the only one who had guts enough to stand up to her and her party of traitors whether you liked him or not and like it or not this story is far from over, A2.Oh I know it's not over, between you q-anon guys and the ineptness of the Democrats it's going to be Trump / Harris in 2024 if he's still alive and I think he kills her.

As to the national embarrassment part there has never been a bigger embarrassment than Trump was. He was openly scorned and ridiculed by the leadership of the rest of the world. I know you Q guys love him but the rest of the world saw him as he is, the petty man boy still trying to escape his fathers shadow. I don't dislike him because he's a Republican, I've thought he was a duchey publicity wh0re since the 80's. You know he bankrupted a casino right? He couldn't even turn a profit in a casino which is like a license to sell crack and he bankrupted a few. He's a good branding guy and that's pretty much it.

RedneckStud
05-09-21, 09:51
I am not going to totally believe that zero of my taxes will go up until that man is out of office.I know my taxes went up under Trump. I had less taken out of my paycheck, but paid far more on tax day. And don't get me started on the taxes (tariff) that China never paid.

Admin2
05-09-21, 09:52
You say Clinton would have been far worse. How so? At the very least, Hillary as POTUS would have responded much more effectively to the COVID pandemic crisis. Regrettably, I voted for the orange haired shit stain (trump) in 2016.The covid crisis was manufactured to get rid of Trump. 99.74% overall recovery rate, of the 550,000 who died WITH covid 40,000 more or less died OF covid. Would she have shut down the one economy that has been sustaining the world? 0-20,000,000 people in the third world are going to starve to death in 2021 as a result of covid mitigation. The biggest mistake Trump ever made was opening his stupid fucking mouth in April and saying "I have a gut feeling it's just going to go away" which created the campaign issue. So no, she wouldn't have handled the "covid crisis" better, had she been in office nobody would have talked about covid anymore than they did about the really bad corona virus in 2018 that had doctors in NY treating people in tents and using refrigerated trucks as temporary morgues.

Had she won the US would be a complete and total gynocracy at this point.

Hillary fucking Clinton the worst candidate the Democrats ever put up and that includes Adlai Stevenson.

HobbyMan51
05-09-21, 11:27
The covid crisis was manufactured to get rid of Trump. 99.74% overall recovery rate, of the 550,000 who died WITH covid 40,000 more or less died OF covid. Would she have shut down the one economy that has been sustaining the world? 0-20,000,000 people in the third world are going to starve to death in 2021 as a result of covid mitigation. The biggest mistake Trump ever made was opening his stupid fucking mouth in April and saying "I have a gut feeling it's just going to go away" which created the campaign issue. So no, she wouldn't have handled the "covid crisis" better, had she been in office nobody would have talked about covid anymore than they did about the really bad corona virus in 2018 that had doctors in NY treating people in tents and using refrigerated trucks as temporary morgues.

Had she won the US would be a complete and total gynocracy at this point.

Hillary fucking Clinton the worst candidate the Democrats ever put up and that includes Adlai Stevenson.Completely agree here although the argument can be made that Jimmy Carter was even worse than Egghead Adlai. Biden the cardboard cut-out doesn't even qualify as a candidate. He was / is a convenient fool for his handlers and the media to use until they are ready to dispose of him. My biggest problem with Trump was that he couldn't keep his mouth shut. I believe that in his mind he thought that by saying the virus was just going to go away he was trying to be reassuring but it had the opposite, disastrous effect. He could have avoided half of the landmines he created for himself if he had just understood when to when to talk and when to shut up but he couldn't do it and that's that. We will just have to put up with the current clown and the kamala clown who will replace him until we can get this ship upright again in 2024. If we still have a country by then.

Sgt Lurker
05-09-21, 11:33
While my portfolio sky-rocketed. All of the tariffs were paid by the companies importing goods from China which went into the cost of goods sold as any economist or educated American can tell you. And it did hurt Chinese and American companies alike.


I know my taxes went up under Trump. I had less taken out of my paycheck, but paid far more on tax day. And don't get me started on the taxes (tariff) that China never paid.

TheRabbit
05-09-21, 11:38
The covid crisis was manufactured to get rid of Trump.
NO! NO IT WAS NOT, NO ONE MANUFACTURED THE DAMN VIRUS!


99.74% overall recovery rate, of the 550,000 who died WITH covid 40,000 more or less died OF covid. I have posted with many links telling you that this is BULLSHIT! THE CDC SEE PEOPLE WHO DIED OF WITH OR OF COVID-19 ARE ONE AND THE SAME!


Would she have shut down the one economy that has been sustaining the world?Well given that basically the rest of the world did I say yes, she would.


Had she won the US would be a complete and total gynocracy at this point.

I highly doubt so.


The biggest mistake Trump ever made was opening his stupid fucking mouth in April and saying "I have a gut feeling it's just going to go away" which created the campaign issue.No the mistake he made was GETTING RID OF THE PANDEMIC RESPONSE TEAM BECAUSE OF HIS PETTY GRUDGE WITH Obama.


So no, she wouldn't have handled the "covid crisis" better, had she been in office nobody would have talked about covid anymore.
Pretty sure she would and I highly doubt people would forget given what's happening in India right now.

Sgt Lurker
05-09-21, 11:40
99.7% chance of recovery. Using the science, Type 0 Negative (me) have a 30 $ less chance of catching it than non Type 0 and 30-40% better chance of having a very mild case so that is now, 99.992 % of recovery. The shot adds about another 90% for 99.9928%. Why should I get the vaccine? If a bunch of medical workers are refusing it until it is fully approved by the FDA instead of the temporary, there might be some reason here. And no, they are not predominantly Trumpers.

Before any of you start telling me what medical treatment I should get, prove you have license to practice medicine in GA and know my medical records.


The covid crisis was manufactured to get rid of Trump. 99.74% overall recovery rate, of the 550,000 who died WITH covid 40,000 more or less died OF covid. Would she have shut down the one economy that has been sustaining the world? 0-20,000,000 people in the third world are going to starve to death in 2021 as a result of covid mitigation. The biggest mistake Trump ever made was opening his stupid fucking mouth in April and saying "I have a gut feeling it's just going to go away" which created the campaign issue. So no, she wouldn't have handled the "covid crisis" better, had she been in office nobody would have talked about covid anymore than they did about the really bad corona virus in 2018 that had doctors in NY treating people in tents and using refrigerated trucks as temporary morgues.

Aaron Hamlet
05-09-21, 11:56
Court after Court after Court has dismissed these bullshit claims.

a chance with John Kasich

You praise the DOJ, Lady Liberty. Blind justice, truth, justice and the American way. You don't live in US. Do you even vote, interact with Americans daily? You get all your news from CNN international? You or your employer moved your company / servers to eastern Europe to avoid truth justice and the American way, the DOJ, Lady Liberty. But you praise them vs Trump? Your daddy fucked you up, son. Not as bad as soros, tmeister and little bugs bunnys daddy fucked them up, but they're your kind, your clan. Look at them. That's fucked up ain't it?

Kasich? Blockbuster. Audio and video with the cop. Kasich? You're dumber than I thought you were and I thought you were pretty fucking dumb. I'm trying to help you when I tell you to stick with commenting solely on the dirty horers, pimps and johns. It's your world. It's what you are. It's for the best.

HobbyMan51
05-09-21, 12:02
Oh I know it's not over, between you q-anon guys and the ineptness of the Democrats it's going to be Trump / Harris in 2024 if he's still alive and I think he kills her.

As to the national embarrassment part there has never been a bigger embarrassment than Trump was. He was openly scorned and ridiculed by the leadership of the rest of the world. I know you Q guys love him but the rest of the world saw him as he is, the petty man boy still trying to escape his fathers shadow. I don't dislike him because he's a Republican, I've thought he was a duchey publicity wh0re since the 80's. You know he bankrupted a casino right? He couldn't even turn a profit in a casino which is like a license to sell crack and he bankrupted a few. He's a good branding guy and that's pretty much it.Again, I can understand your opinion while not necessarily agreeing with it. I thought the same thing about Trump until around 2000 when I began to hear the Imus interviews with him once or twice a week and discovered to my great surprise that he had much more substance to him than I had previously believed possible. He talked at great length with Imus about how neither party gave a damn about the American public and that a great shake up was coming. That resonated with me and millions of others who have no party affiliation and we voted him in because of it. What we have now is a Republican party that still does not give a damn about the American public and a Democratic party that has been taken over by leftist anarchists who don't give a damn about the American public either but are intent on destroying the foundation of the country this public belongs to. This will be the great death struggle in the coming months and years and those of us who oppose the Democratic traitors are doing our best to keep an America intact that offers the most opportunity for the most citizens of this country. We are not q-anon extremists, just ordinary citizens who understand what great danger our country is in right now. There are at least 80 to 100 million of us out here who are feared by both parties because they know that we know what they are all about and that about does not include our best interests. The Repubs are still the same old stupid selfish assholes they have always been. The Dems are the ones who are attempting to destroy the republic now and replace it with a totalitarian nightmare. They are the real enemies to all of us now. They, along with the woke fools who support them, must be stopped.

TheRabbit
05-09-21, 12:03
You praise the DOJ, Lady Liberty. Blind justice, truth, justice and the American way. You don't live in US. Do you even vote, interact with Americans daily? You get all your news from CNN international? You or your employer moved your company / servers to eastern Europe to avoid truth justice and the American way, the DOJ, Lady Liberty. But you praise them vs Trump? Your daddy fucked you up, son. Not as bad as soros, tmeister and little bugs bunnys daddy fucked them up, but they're your kind, your clan. Look at them. That's fucked up ain't it?

Kasich? Blockbuster. Audio and video with the cop. Kasich? You're dumber than I thought you were and I thought you were pretty fucking dumb. I'm trying to help you when I tell you to stick with commenting solely on the dirty horers, pimps and johns. It's your world. It's what you are. It's for the best.Ok so you still have no response over the fact that all of the court cases have been dismissed due to no evidence.

HobbyMan51
05-09-21, 12:06
NO! NO IT WAS NOT, NO ONE MANUFACTURED THE DAMN VIRUS!

I have posted with many links telling you that this is BULLSHIT! THE CDC SEE PEOPLE WHO DIED OF WITH OR OF COVID-19 ARE ONE AND THE SAME!

Well given that basically the rest of the world did I say yes, she would.

I highly doubt so.

No the mistake he made was GETTING RID OF THE PANDEMIC RESPONSE TEAM BECAUSE OF HIS PETTY GRUDGE WITH Obama.

Pretty sure she would and I highly doubt people would forget given what's happening in India right now.Rabbit, Rabbit, calm down son. You're getting hysterical here. Time for your meds and some warm milk.

HobbyMan51
05-09-21, 12:08
Oh I know it's not over, between you q-anon guys and the ineptness of the Democrats it's going to be Trump / Harris in 2024 if he's still alive and I think he kills her.

As to the national embarrassment part there has never been a bigger embarrassment than Trump was. He was openly scorned and ridiculed by the leadership of the rest of the world. I know you Q guys love him but the rest of the world saw him as he is, the petty man boy still trying to escape his fathers shadow. I don't dislike him because he's a Republican, I've thought he was a duchey publicity wh0re since the 80's. You know he bankrupted a casino right? He couldn't even turn a profit in a casino which is like a license to sell crack and he bankrupted a few. He's a good branding guy and that's pretty much it.Again, I can understand your opinion while not necessarily agreeing with it. I thought the same thing about Trump until around 2000 when I began to hear the Imus interviews with him once or twice a week and discovered to my great surprise that he had much more substance to him than I had previously believed possible. He talked at great length with Imus about how neither party gave a damn about the American public and that a great shake up was coming. That resonated with me and millions of others who have no party affiliation and we voted him in because of it. What we have now is a Republican party that still does not give a damn about the American public and a Democratic party that has been taken over by leftist anarchists who don't give a damn about the American public either but are intent on destroying the foundation of the country this public belongs to. This will be the great death struggle in the coming months and years and those of us who oppose the Democratic traitors are doing our best to keep an America intact that offers the most opportunity for the most citizens of this country. We are not q-anon extremists, just ordinary citizens who understand what great danger our country is in right now. There are at least 80 to 100 million of us out here who are feared by both parties because they know that we know what they are all about and that about does not include our best interests. The Repubs are still the same old stupid selfish assholes they have always been. The Dems are the ones who are attempting to destroy the republic now and replace it with a totalitarian nightmare. They are the real enemies to all of us now. They, along with the woke fools who support them, must be stopped.

SkyWookie
05-09-21, 12:33
NO! NO IT WAS NOT, NO ONE MANUFACTURED THE DAMN VIRUS!

I have posted with many links telling you that this is BULLSHIT! THE CDC SEE PEOPLE WHO DIED OF WITH OR OF COVID-19 ARE ONE AND THE SAME!

Well given that basically the rest of the world did I say yes, she would.

I highly doubt so.

No the mistake he made was GETTING RID OF THE PANDEMIC RESPONSE TEAM BECAUSE OF HIS PETTY GRUDGE WITH Obama.

Pretty sure she would and I highly doubt people would forget given what's happening in India right now.Your blind hate of Trump makes you incapable of see that the whole Covid 19 pandemic was manufactured, you don't want to hear the facts, you ignore the facts, you ignore everything that happened except for things you can blame Trump for. You are 20 times more likely to get into a car accident than have a serious case of covid (20 million car accidents last year). Only 40 k people died from covid in the USA Just because someone who died may have had covid doesn't mean they died from covid. Straight from the CDC 42 k people died from covid, all others tested positive after death, but died from cancer, stroke, heart attacks etc.

I'm glad you brought up India, the whole reason we don't have the infection rates here that India does was that all last year Trump and his advisors mitigated the covid response to keep it from getting that bad, but now all of a sudden Biden is in office and cases are on the rise again? It's due to poor leadership. Once again your blind hate of Trump keeps you from being able to live in reality and acknowledge the great job he did compared to other world leaders.

SkyWookie
05-09-21, 12:35
Ok so you still have no response over the fact that all of the court cases have been dismissed due to no evidence.You are twisting the story as usual. You claim no evidence, the ruling was "insufficient evidence" which means that had evidence but questioned whether or not it was enough to convict, therefore dismissed it. Nobody but you ever said there was "no evidence" smdh.

Sgt Soros
05-09-21, 12:46
While my portfolio sky-rocketed. All of the tariffs were paid by the companies importing goods from China which went into the cost of goods sold as any economist or educated American can tell you. And it did hurt Chinese and American companies alike.FYI, Biden's Stock Market Is Crushing Trump's so your investment portfolio with Biden as POTUS must be doing gangbusters.

By one of President Trump’s favorite measures of success President Biden’s post-election stock market gains have beaten Trump’s equivalent five plus month’s returns. In fact Biden’s have crushed Trump’s, which continues a trend that occurred through the end of 2020.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/chuckjones/2021/04/19/bidens-stock-market-is-crushing-trumps/?sh=16733191ec4b

Sgt Soros
05-09-21, 12:54
Ok so you still have no response over the fact that all of the court cases have been dismissed due to no evidence.What else can the board knuckle head say, when several trump appointed Judges have rebuked Trump's voter fraud claims.

Dec 14, 2020 — The most remarkable rebukes of Trump's legal case: came from the judges he hand- picked. At least nine Trump-appointed judges or Supreme Court short-listers declined to bolster his claims of* voter fraud.

Voters, not lawyers, choose the President,” U.S. Circuit Court Judge Stephanos Bibas, a Trump appointee, said in a rejection of an attempt to throw out votes for Joe Biden in Pennsylvania. Writing on behalf of two other GOP-appointed judges, Bibas added: “Charges require specific allegations and then proof. We have neither here.”

In a lawsuit aimed at blocking certification of Biden’s win in Georgia, U.S. District Court Judge Steven D. Grimberg, who Trump appointed last year, said the effort “would breed confusion and potentially disenfranchisement that I find has no basis in fact or in law.”*

The latest blow came Saturday, when federal District Judge Brett H. Ludwig, a Trump appointee who assumed the bench in September, called Trump’s sweeping request to throw out the election results in Wisconsin “extraordinary” and stopped short of declaring him a sore loser. “A sitting president who did not prevail in his bid for reelection has asked for federal court help in setting aside the popular vote based on disputed issues of election administration, issues he plainly could have raised before the vote occurred,” he said.

Sgt Lurker
05-09-21, 13:16
I am not the only one that has been surprised over the past several months which were already on the upswing with some return to normalcy. A meeting this week with my financial advisor did reconfirm that I have to keep a lot of stop sell orders in place should the market begin to tank. With PRESIDENT Trump, I did not check my portfolio but one a week or so, now it is a few times a day.


FYI, Biden's Stock Market Is Crushing Trump's so your investment portfolio with Biden as POTUS must be doing gangbusters.

By one of President Trumps favorite measures of success President Bidens post-election stock market gains have beaten Trumps equivalent five plus months returns. In fact Bidens have crushed Trumps, which continues a trend that occurred through the end of 2020.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/chuckjones/2021/04/19/bidens-stock-market-is-crushing-trumps/?sh=16733191ec4b

TheRabbit
05-09-21, 15:57
Your blind hate of Trump makes you incapable of see that the whole Covid 19 pandemic was manufactured, you don't want to hear the facts, you ignore the facts, you ignore everything that happened except for things you can blame Trump for. You are 20 times more likely to get into a car accident than have a serious case of covid (20 million car accidents last year). Only 40 k people died from covid in the USA Just because someone who died may have had covid doesn't mean they died from covid. Straight from the CDC 42 k people died from covid, all others tested positive after death, but died from cancer, stroke, heart attacks etc.
No 5550,000 in America died because of catching COVID-19, I have no blind hatred of Trump, I just look at the facts.


I'm glad you brought up India, the whole reason we don't have the infection rates here that India does was that all last year Trump and his advisors mitigated the covid response to keep it from getting that bad, but now all of a sudden Biden is in office and cases are on the rise again? It's due to poor leadership. Once again your blind hate of Trump keeps you from being able to live in reality and acknowledge the great job he did compared to other world leaders.Are you insane? he did a poor job because again 5550,000 in America are dead because of Trump mishandling of the virus no other countries besides Brazil, India and the US has that high of a death rate. and cases are rising globally because of new strains of COVID-19.

TheRabbit
05-09-21, 16:07
You are twisting the story as usual. You claim no evidence, the ruling was "insufficient evidence" which means that had evidence but questioned whether or not it was enough to convict, therefore dismissed it. Nobody but you ever said there was "no evidence" smdh.If you have insufficient evidence that can't stand up in court... 86 times, then you have you have no evidence at all.

TheRabbit
05-09-21, 16:18
99.7% chance of recovery. Using the science, Type 0 Negative (me) have a 30 $ less chance of catching it than non Type 0 and 30-40% better chance of having a very mild case so that is now, 99.992 % of recovery. The shot adds about another 90% for 99.9928%. Why should I get the vaccine? If a bunch of medical workers are refusing it until it is fully approved by the FDA instead of the temporary, there might be some reason here. And no, they are not predominantly Trumpers.

Before any of you start telling me what medical treatment I should get, prove you have license to practice medicine in GA and know my medical records.I see you won't acknowledged that the disease can and has killed hundreds of thousands of Americans who would've otherwise lived this year and is not "just the flu" before moving the goalposts to a completely different argument?

In any case the main reason young people get the vaccine to provide herd immunity, so that they cannot get it and spread it, causing the death or debilitation of old and medically vulnerable people they live around. Its something you do not to protect yourself necessarily but to protect those around you, like a mask, and not doing so firmly communicates that you don't give a shit whether your grandma or your neighbor that has diabetes die a slow painful death because you couldn't comply with basic healthcare standards.

And while yes its true that Covid-19's direct personal threat to youth is pretty low:

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/images/covid-data/319360-A_COVID-19_RiskForSevereDisease_Race_Age_3.30_p1.jpg

Covid-19 has nevertheless reportedly killed 2,125 Americans aged 18-29 and 6,165 Americans aged 30-39.


https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid_weekly/index.htm


The Johnson and Johnson vaccine might have killed one person, for which America discontinued its use for some time. The Astra-Zeneca vaccine is not allowed in the USA for largely the same reasons. Which serves as a reminder that the authorities take the risk of vaccine side effects very seriously. With millions of doses being delivered, even rare 1 in a million side effects should start to be detectable. Its clear that even if you are young, and even if you are unlikely to catch Covid-19 due to the pandemic finally beginning to wind down, it is still probably safer to get the vaccine.

TheRabbit
05-09-21, 16:54
What we have now is a Republican party that still does not give a damn about the American public True.


and a Democratic party that has been taken over by leftist anarchists who don't give a damn about the American public either but are intent on destroying the foundation of the country this public belongs to.False.


This will be the great death struggle in the coming months and years and those of us who oppose the Democratic traitors are doing our best to keep an America intact that offers the most opportunity for the most citizens of this country. Change that to republicans and it's true otherwise false.


We are not q-anon extremists, just ordinary citizens who understand what great danger our country is in right now.
False.


There are at least 80 to 100 million of us out here who are feared by both parties because they know that we know what they are all about and that about does not include our best interests.
False.


The Repubs are still the same old stupid selfish assholes they have always been.
True.


The Dems are the ones who are attempting to destroy the republic now and replace it with a totalitarian nightmare. They are the real enemies to all of us now. Change that to republicans and it's true otherwise false.

Sgt Soros
05-09-21, 16:56
Your blind hate of Trump makes you incapable of see that the whole Covid 19 pandemic was manufactured, you don't want to hear the facts, you ignore the facts, you ignore everything that happened except for things you can blame Trump for. You are 20 times more likely to get into a car accident than have a serious case of covid (20 million car accidents last year). Only 40 k people died from covid in the USA Just because someone who died may have had covid doesn't mean they died from covid. Straight from the CDC 42 k people died from covid, all others tested positive after death, but died from cancer, stroke, heart attacks etc.

I'm glad you brought up India, the whole reason we don't have the infection rates here that India does was that all last year Trump and his advisors mitigated the covid response to keep it from getting that bad, but now all of a sudden Biden is in office and cases are on the rise again? It's due to poor leadership. Once again your blind hate of Trump keeps you from being able to live in reality and acknowledge the great job he did compared to other world leaders.I'm inclined to believe that trump early last spring decided to buy into the ridiculous "herd immunity" approach, and decided to deliberately let the virus infect millions in hopes that it would burn out and disappear.

Remember, this was a philosophy that Boris Johnson, Prime Minister of the UK, entertained initially, that Sweden adopted (in a modified form). So many of trump's public comments (saying it was a minor infection no worse than the flu, predicting it would be gone by the time of summer weather, insisting that one day it would magically evaporate, etc) suggest that is what he was believing. He brought Scott Atlas in because he reinforced that view, instead of having to listen to "real" scientists.

For trump, it was an attractive approach. As someone who didn't actually believe in a working government, it wouldn't require mobilizing scientific and health agencies to respond, it would not necessitate economic shutdowns (indeed, sending people back to work would speed up the process of millions acquiring the virus), and it fit with the Ayn Randian "everyman for himself" kind of philosophy that has underlined Republican thinking for ages. And it explains why he resisted even simple steps like masks. Objecting to anything that would slow down viral spread.

In following this strategy, trump killed hundreds of thousands needlessly. It was intentional, he was warned of the consequences by his experts but he did it anyway. It goes beyond mere "negligence" into predictable and intentional infliction of suffering. There should be some kind of "war crimes"-type accountability for a leader who commits Pandemicide on a scale of this magnitude with between 500,000-900,000 COVID deaths in the U.S. alone.

FWIW, A new study from the Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation(IHME) has a new number for U.S. deaths due to COVID: 905,289.

http://www.healthdata.org/special-analysis/estimation-excess-mortality-due-covid-19-and-scalars-reported-covid-19-deaths

SkyWookie
05-09-21, 22:08
No 5550,000 in America died because of catching COVID-19, I have no blind hatred of Trump, I just look at the facts.

Are you insane? he did a poor job because again 5550,000 in America are dead because of Trump mishandling of the virus no other countries besides Brazil, India and the US has that high of a death rate. and cases are rising globally because of new strains of COVID-19.No, according to the CDC approximately 40 k people have died from Covid, another 500 k died from heart attacks, cancer and other diseases. They may have contracted covid but that isn't what actually killed them. Again hospitals get paid an extra 7500 bucks for ever death cert. That has covid on it.

HobbyMan51
05-09-21, 22:34
True.

False.

Change that to republicans and it's true otherwise false.

False.

False.

True.

Change that to republicans and it's true otherwise false.Jesus God Almighty you are so full of shit.

RedneckStud
05-10-21, 09:34
No, according to the CDC approximately 40 k people have died from Covid, another 500 k died from heart attacks, cancer and other diseases. They may have contracted covid but that isn't what actually killed them. Again hospitals get paid an extra 7500 bucks for ever death cert. That has covid on it.Please cite your reference. I only ask because several other cites FROM THE CDC contradict your post.

TheRabbit
05-10-21, 09:54
Jesus God Almighty you are so full of shit.Everything that has happened over the last year has shown me otherwise.

HobbyMan51
05-10-21, 10:42
Everything that has happened over the last year has shown me otherwise.Well, everything that has happened over the last year has shown me otherwise from what you insist is true. You have zero credibility precisely because you deny what most of us can plainly see as fact happening right in front of us. Your fierce denials of reality are incredulous to the point that one suspects that you don't really believe what you post and instead just enjoy fucking with us.

TheRabbit
05-10-21, 13:33
Well, everything that has happened over the last year has shown me otherwise from what you insist is true. You have zero credibility precisely because you deny what most of us can plainly see as fact happening right in front of us. Your fierce denials of reality are incredulous to the point that one suspects that you don't really believe what you post and instead just enjoy fucking with us.I say again everything that has happened over the last year has shown me otherwise to what you have"seen".

HobbyMan51
05-10-21, 16:02
I say again everything that has happened over the last year has shown me otherwise to what you have"seen".Then your eyesight needs some major correction.

Sgt Lurker
05-10-21, 17:11
Dumb-Ass Fauci keeps saying that even when fully vaccinated your can still catch, carry, and or transmit the virus. You are just better protected from dying from it or being hospitalized. I can go on and on. Yes, people died, many of whom had a lot more extensive health conditions than I do. I do not get the flu shot either and I do not get the flu. As I stated previously, there are health care workers who refuse to get it until it is fully vetted and permanently approved by the FDA. I have close friends who are Doctors and other medical folks who have no intent of getting the vaccine right now either since we do not know the long term effects.

My brother, in his 60's, type 0 Negative, very mild case, back to work within 2 weeks. Our sister and her husband, both type 0, recently tested positive for the antibodies even though they never had any symptoms.


I see you won't acknowledged that the disease can and has killed hundreds of thousands of Americans who would've otherwise lived this year and is not "just the flu" before moving the goalposts to a completely different argument?

In any case the main reason young people get the vaccine to provide herd immunity, so that they cannot get it and spread it, causing the death or debilitation of old and medically vulnerable people they live around. Its something you do not to protect yourself necessarily but to protect those around you, like a mask, and not doing so firmly communicates that you don't give a shit whether your grandma or your neighbor that has diabetes die a slow painful death because you couldn't comply with basic healthcare standards.

And while yes its true that Covid-19's direct personal threat to youth is pretty low:

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/images/covid-data/319360-A_COVID-19_RiskForSevereDisease_Race_Age_3.30_p1.jpg

Covid-19 has nevertheless reportedly killed 2,125 Americans aged 18-29 and 6,165 Americans aged 30-39.


https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid_weekly/index.htm


The Johnson and Johnson vaccine might have killed one person, for which America discontinued its use for some time. The Astra-Zeneca vaccine is not allowed in the USA for largely the same reasons. Which serves as a reminder that the authorities take the risk of vaccine side effects very seriously. With millions of doses being delivered, even rare 1 in a million side effects should start to be detectable. Its clear that even if you are young, and even if you are unlikely to catch Covid-19 due to the pandemic finally beginning to wind down, it is still probably safer to get the vaccine.

Sgt Soros
05-10-21, 17:33
Dumb-Ass Fauci keeps saying that even when fully vaccinated your can still catch, carry, and or transmit the virus. You are just better protected from dying from it or being hospitalized. I can go on and on. Yes, people died, many of whom had a lot more extensive health conditions than I do. I do not get the flu shot either and I do not get the flu. As I stated previously, there are health care workers who refuse to get it until it is fully vetted and permanently approved by the FDA. I have close friends who are Doctors and other medical folks who have no intent of getting the vaccine right now either since we do not know the long term effects.

My brother, in his 60's, type 0 Negative, very mild case, back to work within 2 weeks. Our sister and her husband, both type 0, recently tested positive for the antibodies even though they never had any symptoms.Thanks Doc, just curious, did you get your Medical degree from trump University?

TheRabbit
05-10-21, 18:49
Then your eyesight needs some major correction.My eyesight is just fine, 20/20 and I say again everything that has happened over the last year has shown me otherwise to what you have"seen".

Sgt Lurker
05-10-21, 21:26
You are. I am just not as gullible as you and many others. Remember the whole Hydroxychloroquine thing being bad and now it is good? Fauci is just baking this 15 minutes of fame for as long as he can.


Thanks Doc, just curious, did you get your Medical degree from trump University?

TheRabbit
05-10-21, 22:19
Dumb-Ass Fauci keeps saying that even when fully vaccinated your can still catch, carry, and or transmit the virus. You are just better protected from dying from it or being hospitalized. I can go on and on. Yes, people died, many of whom had a lot more extensive health conditions than I do. I do not get the flu shot either and I do not get the flu. As I stated previously, there are health care workers who refuse to get it until it is fully vetted and permanently approved by the FDA. I have close friends who are Doctors and other medical folks who have no intent of getting the vaccine right now either since we do not know the long term effects.

My brother, in his 60's, type 0 Negative, very mild case, back to work within 2 weeks. Our sister and her husband, both type 0, recently tested positive for the antibodies even though they never had any symptoms.Between a 1/2th and 2/3 rds of a million Americans died as a consequence of Covid-19. This was not some trivial uptick, this wasn't "they're on their way out", but a real and substantive death toll. I might add that it is a bizarre to be so deathly concerned about the "unknown possible long term side effects of Covid vaccines" when we know little about the long term side effects of Covid-19 but what little we do is alarming. Only about 1. 8% of confirmed Covid cases results in deaths in the USA, but it is entirely possible that a far larger share could be debilitated for life, have a decade or two lopped off their life expectancy, etc etc. And note that this isn't limited to those hospitalized:

https://www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2021/04/22/989874986/people-with-severe-covid-19-have-higher-risk-of-long-term-effects-study-finds

"Ziyad Al-Aly and his colleagues used the databases of the USA Department of Veterans Affairs to examine health outcomes in more than 73,000 people who'd had COVID-19 and were not hospitalized, comparing them with nearly 5 million users of the VA health system who did not have COVID-19 and were not hospitalized.

Six months later, those who'd had COVID-19 were found to be at higher risk of new onset heart disease, diabetes, mental health disorders including anxiety and depression, substance use disorders, kidney disease and other problems. ".

People who get Covid-19, even those who get "mild" cases or quite possibly didn't even realize they had it at the time, nevertheless often seem to be permanently debilitated and vulnerable to other ailments and problems both physical and mental. And again that's for non-hospitalized; I have no doubt that for those hospitalized its considerably worse.

As for vaccine efficacy:

https://gis.cdc.gov/grasp/covidnet/COVID19_3.html

https://i.imgur.com/Dh5Qm9V_d.webp?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium

https://i.imgur.com/rNe5HM1_d.webp?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium

The rise of vaccinations has seen a decline in hospitalizations for all age groups including younger ones, showing that even younger brackets derive some benefit besides having the common decency to keep their more elderly and feeble friends and family alive. However the greatest benefit has accrued to the demographics that got the most vaccinations. While younger generations have seen their hospitalization rate cut in half, the elderly have seen it cut to around a seventh of what it was before.

If this was a simple decline from a peaking Covid wave you'd expect the decline to be even across all demographics, but its not. The elderly are getting vaccinated and thus being directly protected, while other age brackets are benefiting from the reduced spread brought about by more and more people getting vaccinated. Some of it is no doubt just a natural decline from the winter peak, but again that doesn't explain the differing decline by age.

Vaccines work. They decrease your odds of getting the disease, of dying of the disease if you get it, and of spreading the disease in either case. Every legitimate medical organization will tell you that vaccines work. It is acknowledged that vaccines do not provide 100% immunity and they do not have 100% chance of no side effects. That does not change the position of medical authorities.

HobbyMan51
05-10-21, 22:19
My eyesight is just fine, 20/20 and I say again everything that has happened over the last year has shown me otherwise to what you have"seen".Ok. Whatever.

Aaron Hamlet
05-10-21, 22:28
Oh I know it's not over, between you q-anon guys.You are the q-anon believing conspiracies. Here's borderline commie Matt Taibbi with the 20 Trump / Russia conspiracies you and your team soros, tmeister and bugs believed and prob still do. And now you believe the conspiracy that Joe won in a squeaky clean election. Soon you'll learn that's the conspiracy.

https://taibbi.substack.com/p/aaugh-a-brief-list-of-official-russia


petty man boy still trying to escape his fathers shadow. Confession through projection.


You know he bankrupted a casino right? He couldn't even turn a profit in a casino which is like a license to sell crack and he bankrupted a few. All Atlantic city imploded as casinos opened up on Indian land in Pennsylvania, Connecticut and New York. AC lost their monopoly they held for 30 yrs.


He was openly scorned and ridiculed by the leadership of the rest of the world.Name one who openly scorned and ridiculed? Even if they did, fuck them. Find someone who scorns you like Macron did Trump.

Bullett64
05-11-21, 09:54
Let me make sure I have this correctly:

Anyone who died for any reason after getting Covid-19 dies for a reason other than Covid-19 and any person who dies for any reason after getting the Covid-19 vaccine dies because of the Covid-19 vaccine.

The logic of some people escapes me.

Black Beards
05-11-21, 14:33
BUT the rates for the providers here are damn expensive. Honestly didn't expect it coming from NY.

Not sure if its a Covid, stimulus or just a recent price hike thing. Has it always been like this? Getting quotes of like $250 hr, $120 for a QV and it seems like most people are charging this. Could be I'm new to the area and don't know the spots but damn this sucks.

Niteluvr
05-11-21, 14:55
BUT the rates for the providers here are damn expensive. Honestly didn't expect it coming from NY.

Not sure if its a Covid, stimulus or just a recent price hike thing. Has it always been like this? Getting quotes of like $250 hr, $120 for a QV and it seems like most people are charging this. Could be I'm new to the area and don't know the spots but damn this sucks.Atlanta is a smaller market so any provider who's even passable has severe GPS. Now you know.

Vx333
05-11-21, 15:14
BUT the rates for the providers here are damn expensive. Honestly didn't expect it coming from NY.

Not sure if its a Covid, stimulus or just a recent price hike thing. Has it always been like this? Getting quotes of like $250 hr, $120 for a QV and it seems like most people are charging this. Could be I'm new to the area and don't know the spots but damn this sucks.All three. Prices have gone up and not fallen back down.

A KAMP visit in Atlanta is the same price as a round trip to Miami for FS there.

SkyWookie
05-11-21, 16:59
Let me make sure I have this correctly:

Anyone who died for any reason after getting Covid-19 dies for a reason other than Covid-19 and any person who dies for any reason after getting the Covid-19 vaccine dies because of the Covid-19 vaccine.

The logic of some people escapes me.Yes, if you died from cancer but caught covid, then we forget about the cancer (they only died of covid).

Now if you got a vaccine and died 2 hrs later. No No NO you didn't die from the vaccine, it MUST have been something else.

It's called Leftwing Hierocracy.

SkyWookie
05-11-21, 19:15
BUT the rates for the providers here are damn expensive. Honestly didn't expect it coming from NY.

Not sure if its a Covid, stimulus or just a recent price hike thing. Has it always been like this? Getting quotes of like $250 hr, $120 for a QV and it seems like most people are charging this. Could be I'm new to the area and don't know the spots but damn this sucks.I am happy living here, there is something for everyone and easy travel to everywhere, but whether it escorts, massage, or streetwalkers we just aren't a good market compared to Florida cities and well most big cities for that matter.

TheRabbit
05-11-21, 21:30
Yes, if you died from cancer but caught covid, then we forget about the cancer (they only died of covid).

Dude it takes cancer MONTHS sometimes years to kill someone, that "argument" you gave makes little sense, especially given that the death rate since the pandemic started has been around 500,000-900,000 and the cancer death rate is only 100,000 per year in the U.S.


Now if you got a vaccine and died 2 hrs later. No No NO you didn't die from the vaccine, it MUST have been something else.

True, but for the MAJORITY of the 200 million people who have taken the vaccine in the U.S have not died.

SkyWookie
05-11-21, 22:11
Dude it takes cancer MONTHS sometimes years to kill someone, that "argument" you gave makes little sense, especially given that the death rate since the pandemic started has been around 500,000-900,000 and the cancer death rate is only 100,000 per year in the U.S.

True, but for the MAJORITY of the 200 million people who have taken the vaccine in the U.S have not died.Not just cancer, Heart attacks, strokes, even people who died in car accidents had covid put on their death certs to make hospitals money.

Aaron Hamlet
05-11-21, 22:58
Anyone who died for any reason after getting Covid-19 dies for a reason other than Covid-19 and any person who dies for any reason after getting the Covid-19 vaccine dies because of the Covid-19 vaccine.

The logic of some people escapes me.Hospitals get bonus for ccp virus death and more bonus for ccp virus on ventilator death. Cycle a pcr test 30+ times and dead cells from a cold or flu you had last year will show up as a corona / ccp virus. Hospital marks that down as cause of death then collects $40k from taxpayer. It's not hard. Don't overthink it and the logic won't escape you.

TheRabbit
05-12-21, 07:06
Hospitals get bonus for ccp virus death and more bonus for ccp virus on ventilator death. Cycle a pcr test 30+ times and dead cells from a cold or flu you had last year will show up as a corona / ccp virus. Hospital marks that down as cause of death then collects $40k from taxpayer. It's not hard. Don't overthink it and the logic won't escape you.Yeah no, this is incorrect.

https://www.factcheck.org/2020/04/hospital-payments-and-the-covid-19-death-count/

Sgt Soros
05-12-21, 08:02
You are. I am just not as gullible as you and many others. Remember the whole Hydroxychloroquine thing being bad and now it is good? Fauci is just baking this 15 minutes of fame for as long as he can.

FYI, Hydroxychloroquine is only FDA approved to treat Lupus and Malaria NOT COVID. The evidence suggests that hydroxychloroquine is not effective in the treatment and prevention of COVID-19, and the potential benefits of the drug do not outweigh the known and potential risks. As a result, trump's own FDA REVOKED their earlier issue of an Emergency Use Authorization (EUA) for hydroxychloroquine.

The Food and Drug Administration on Monday withdrew emergency use authorizations for two coronavirus treatments that President Donald Trump promoted despite concerns about their safety and effectiveness.

The agency revoked the authorizations for hydroxychloroquine and chloroquine after a request from Gary Disbrow, acting director of the Biomedical Advanced Research and Development Authority.

After reviewing new information from large clinical trials the agency now believes that the suggested dosing regimens "are unlikely to produce an antiviral effect," FDA chief scientist Denise Hinton said in a letter announcing the decision.

Study after study has shown, Hydroxychloroquine has ZERO effect in treating people with COVID-19.

India is a test case to see the true efficacy of Hydroxychloroquine in treating COVID patients. India produces 70% of the global supply of Hydroxychloroquine. In February 2020 India banned all exports of Hydroxychloroquine. The Indian Government's intent was to ensure they had an adequate supply of hydroxychloroquine to meet their public health needs in their fight against COVID.

Fast forward to yesterday, tens of millions of Indians have contracted COVID. New infections are running at 400,000 per day. India's public health sector has collaspsed because 90 percent of the hospitilizations are COVID patients. The country has run short of oxygen supplies. COVID and other sick are being turned away from hospitals in droves. There are mass cremations of the dead in the streets in many of the major cities in India.

If Hydroxychloroquine is so effective at fighting COVID, why are are Governors in states such as Utah, Oklahoma, Florida etc trying to return their orders of Hydroxychloroquine?

Oklahoma Tries to Return Hydroxychloroquine

The Oklahoma Attorney Generals Office has been tasked with attempting to return a $2 million stockpile of a malaria drug once touted by former President Donald Trump as a way to treat the coronavirus.

In April, Gov. Kevin Stitt (R), who ordered the hydroxychloroquine purchase, defended it by saying that while it may not be a useful treatment for the coronavirus, the drug had multiple other uses and that money will not have gone to waste in any respect.'

Like many states, Florida is trying to get rid of its hydroxychloroquine.


* Florida secured about a million doses last year through donation.
* Few were used as research suggested the pills did little to treat COVID
* In June, Florida had about 980,000 pills left
* Its now working with the Lupus Foundation of America to donate the remaining supply.

So, forget hydroxychloroquine. It's a COVID hoax. REAL men drink Clorox, or Lysol to prevent COVID. And stick black lights up their back doors.

Sgt Lurker
05-12-21, 09:09
Yeah no, this is incorrect.

https://www.factcheck.org/2020/04/hospital-payments-and-the-covid-19-death-count/Doctors and hospital workers called into many talk shows stating how they got extra money for COVID. So who should I believe? The frontline workers or the propogandist folks.

HobbyMan51
05-12-21, 10:42
Doctors and hospital workers called into many talk shows stating how they got extra money for COVID. So who should I believe? The frontline workers or the propogandist folks.Obviously you should believe The Rabbit, Sarge. C'Mon. Man! Seriously, you could tell The Rabbit that the sun is out on a sunny day and he would tell you that you are wrong.

ILoveHo
05-12-21, 11:17
FYI, Hydroxychloroquine is only FDA approved to treat Lupus and Malaria NOT COVID. The evidence suggests that hydroxychloroquine is not effective in the treatment and prevention of COVID-19, and the potential benefits of the drug do not outweigh the known and potential risks. As a result, trump's own FDA REVOKED their earlier issue of an Emergency Use Authorization (EUA) for hydroxychloroquine.

The Food and Drug Administration on Monday withdrew emergency use authorizations for two coronavirus treatments that President Donald Trump promoted despite concerns about their safety and effectiveness.

The agency revoked the authorizations for hydroxychloroquine and chloroquine after a request from Gary Disbrow, acting director of the Biomedical Advanced Research and Development Authority.

After reviewing new information from large clinical trials the agency now believes that the suggested dosing regimens "are unlikely to produce an antiviral effect," FDA chief scientist Denise Hinton said in a letter announcing the decision.

Study after study has shown, Hydroxychloroquine has ZERO effect in treating people with COVID-19.

India is a test case to see the true efficacy of Hydroxychloroquine in treating COVID patients. India produces 70% of the global supply of Hydroxychloroquine. In February 2020 India banned all exports of Hydroxychloroquine. The Indian Government's intent was to ensure they had an adequate supply of hydroxychloroquine to meet their public health needs in their fight against COVID.

Fast forward to yesterday, tens of millions of Indians have contracted COVID. New infections are running at 400,000 per day. India's public health sector has collaspsed because 90 percent of the hospitilizations are COVID patients. The country has run short of oxygen supplies. COVID and other sick are being turned away from hospitals in droves. There are mass cremations of the dead in the streets in many of the major cities in India..I got corvid last year Mar and there were not too many drugs to treat corvid then. I got two medicines, one is Hydroxychloroquine and the other one I cannot remember. I stayed in the hospital for 4 weeks, over 2 weeks of which in intensive care. During the first 2 weeks, the doctor told my family I may not make it. I did survive and is very healthy today. I am not contradicting you. I am not a medical expert. But this was my experience. There must be more (or better) medicine now.

SkyWookie
05-12-21, 11:30
There were no cyber-terrorists taking down pipelines under Trumps watch, first gas prices soar after Biden is elected and now we have a gas shortage. The democrats anti-police stance nation wide has left the departments in this country that protect us short handed with criminals of all sorts running loose, whether some riot and loot, while others are attacking the internet with nobody to stop them, We all knew America was going to hell in a handbasket after Biden got elected, but man I didn't realize it would be this fast.

TheRabbit
05-12-21, 11:31
Not just cancer, Heart attacks, strokes, even people who died in car accidents had covid put on their death certs to make hospitals money.The NHCS, a subdepartment of the CDC, publishes figures for all deaths by all causes for each year. They reported 345,323 deaths due to Covid-19 for 2020 alone, and overall report 503,976 more deaths than the prior year, when the year to year change has never so much as reached 6 digits before:

https://cdn.jamanetwork.com/ama/content_public/journal/jama/0/m_jvp210048t1_1617198261.3911.png?Expires=1623159637&Signature=LLvxxn2f2GnoR8ntDqx-Q1UNPn9BXk6n9HKwZVdYL00jklZR1YmAuQeLYuf9thd5i7dB8oLHaSmftcZF6kq9ZDedEB28I0KcTD~hZ2tKQTPbuuVlYZkDI2QTB2dcGemG3Lg0hnPAf2HdIuTN9k2BFH6i~MSYaPp6M5nOqSRtyMj39NV4-YHkVs4Lk2Nn5fhCL5pxpPo-dCmgebQf3sz8VyUOVDAW~ulWc8osmwj~~PMANEq2rC6KE6XCh6C~m1ndk7qjr4ocDc9ES~-4sb4fZiSzh~GgE7eM5~o2jG1W96MLNOTmOBDjfEpCVUeVt2OYqVYc4I7dulamTQoNChMNUw__&Key-Pair-Id=APKAIE5G5CRDK6RD3PGA

This increase in deaths has no plausible alternative explanation than Covid-19 nor is it hospital faking death certs to make money. Indeed given the difference its quite likely there are 10's of thousands of cases attributed to other causes which were put over the brink by Covid-19.

And as noted before, official government sources from around the world all report it.

https://www.ft.com/__origami/service/image/v2/images/raw/https%3A%2F%2Fd6c748xw2pzm8.cloudfront.net%2Fprod%2F4dee8c60-9702-11eb-9838-33ecf8170d91-fullwidth.png?dpr=1&fit=scale-down&quality=highest&source=next&width=1260

Do you believe that all official government sources are all lying to exaggerate the number of people in their country that died in their country in 2020 or early 2021, both for Covid-19 specifically AND total deaths? Indeed if anything those numbers indicate that government are if lying doing so exclusively to downplay the number of Covid-19 deaths. If that is the case than there isn't much point in further discussion.


Doctors and hospital workers called into many talk shows stating how they got extra money for COVID. So who should I believe? The frontline workers or the propogandist folks.
Which talk shows and how many people are claiming this is happening?

SkyWookie
05-12-21, 12:04
The NHCS, a subdepartment of the CDC, publishes figures for all deaths by all causes for each year. They reported 345,323 deaths due to Covid-19 for 2020 alone, and overall report 503,976 more deaths than the prior year, when the year to year change has never so much as reached 6 digits before:

https://cdn.jamanetwork.com/ama/content_public/journal/jama/0/m_jvp210048t1_1617198261.3911.png?Expires=1623159637&Signature=LLvxxn2f2GnoR8ntDqx-Q1UNPn9BXk6n9HKwZVdYL00jklZR1YmAuQeLYuf9thd5i7dB8oLHaSmftcZF6kq9ZDedEB28I0KcTD~hZ2tKQTPbuuVlYZkDI2QTB2dcGemG3Lg0hnPAf2HdIuTN9k2BFH6i~MSYaPp6M5nOqSRtyMj39NV4-YHkVs4Lk2Nn5fhCL5pxpPo-dCmgebQf3sz8VyUOVDAW~ulWc8osmwj~~PMANEq2rC6KE6XCh6C~m1ndk7qjr4ocDc9ES~-4sb4fZiSzh~GgE7eM5~o2jG1W96MLNOTmOBDjfEpCVUeVt2OYqVYc4I7dulamTQoNChMNUw__&Key-Pair-Id=APKAIE5G5CRDK6RD3PGA

This increase in deaths has no plausible alternative explanation than Covid-19 nor is it hospital faking death certs to make money. Indeed given the difference its quite likely there are 10's of thousands of cases attributed to other causes which were put over the brink by Covid-19.

And as noted before, official government sources from around the world all report it.

https://www.ft.com/__origami/service/image/v2/images/raw/https%3A%2F%2Fd6c748xw2pzm8.cloudfront.net%2Fprod%2F4dee8c60-9702-11eb-9838-33ecf8170d91-fullwidth.png?dpr=1&fit=scale-down&quality=highest&source=next&width=1260..This is common sense and I don't know what rabbit hole you were hiding in all last year. Medical workers countrywide and even higher levels in NY were quitting, Nurses were afraid of covid because they didn't understand it was just a really bad cold (more or less). With the shortage of medical staff people were dying by the tens of thousands because they could not receive medical attention, things people normally would not die of began killing people.

Also people weren't getting regular testing done on their health again out of fear of the China virus. So people were going undiagnosed, then dying then the hospital put a covid toe tag on them to cash in. The facts suck, but these are the facts. Hundreds of thousands needlessly died because of lack of medical treatment and undiagnosed issues which is why the number of deaths were higher last year.

Sgt Soros
05-12-21, 12:33
Biden fails again, shortage at the gas pump
There were no cyber-terrorists taking down pipelines under Trumps watch, first gas prices soar after Biden is elected and now we have a gas shortage. The democrats anti-police stance nation wide has left the departments in this country that protect us short handed with criminals of all sorts running loose, whether some riot and loot, while others are attacking the internet with nobody to stop them, We all knew America was going to hell in a handbasket after Biden got elected, but man I didn't realize it would be this fast.

Do you realize that if YOU really want to go down this path, then you're making Donald Trump SOLELY responsible for the COVID-19 pandemic coming to the USA, all of the nearly 600,000 deaths and millions of hospitalizations that resulted from it, and also solely responsible for the economy being laid waste because of it? Also, you've just made Trump solely responsible for all rioting during his term.

FYI, there were 1000's of major cyberattacks / ransomware attacks on hospitals, local governments, and other industries under Trump. However, Trump did NOTHING.

http://www.theverge.com/2020/12/14/22174429/solarwinds-hack-russia-cisa-christopher-krebs-cybersecurity-infrastructure

It was Trump's inaction that made America a sitting duck for cyberattacks.

... For the past four years, Trump has treated the Federal cybersecurity effort as one more partisan battleground, with attacks and vulnerabilities embraced or rejected largely on the basis of their value as a political cudgel. Faced with a government spanning compromise that will require deep analysis and careful cooperation, theres little trust left to draw on, which could make a bad problem even worse.

... under Krebs, the agency was gaining trust. The director had bipartisan support and was seen by the cybersecurity community as an impartial arbiter, someone who would be honest about the facts on the ground even if it was politically inconvenient. Then, a few weeks ago, he was fired for displaying exactly these qualities. As Trump raised groundless claims of election fraud to distract from his loss at the polls, Krebs issued a clear statement on the issue, saying he had seen no evidence of vote tallies being changed in the election. In a matter of days, he was out of a job. ...

http://www.forbes.com/sites/andrewsolender/2020/12/17/trump-takes-bipartisan-criticism-for-silence-on-massive-cyber-attack/?sh=45fbfb494608

Trump Takes Bipartisan Criticism For Silence On Massive Cyber Attack

Rep. Frank Pallone (D-N.J.) noting the president fired Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency (CISA) head Chris Krebs for debunking his election fraud conspiracy theories just one month before the attack occurred.

Even Tom Bossert, Trump's former homeland security advisor, urged the president to "get past his grievances about the election and govern for the remainder of his term," in a New York Times op-ed, which stated he is on the verge of leaving behind a federal government, and perhaps a large number of major industries, compromised by the Russian government. ... " .

And then Trump wouldn't allow Biden's transition team to have access to what was or wasn't being done about cybersecurity, thus hobbling the Biden Administration from getting up to speed quickly enough.

So, I ask you again, do you really want to blame a President for everything that happens during his term, whether or not there was anything he could have done about it?


Obviously you should believe The Rabbit, Sarge. C'Mon. Man! Seriously, you could tell The Rabbit that the sun is out on a sunny day and he would tell you that you are wrong.

Well, everyone is entitled to an opinion. But you are not entitled to your own made up facts.

SkyWookie
05-12-21, 13:26
Do you realize that if YOU really want to go down this path, then you're making Donald Trump SOLELY responsible for the COVID-19 pandemic coming to the USA, all of the nearly 600,000 deaths and millions of hospitalizations that resulted from it, and also solely responsible for the economy being laid waste because of it? Also, you've just made Trump solely responsible for all rioting during his term.

FYI, there were 1000's of major cyberattacks / ransomware attacks on hospitals, local governments, and other industries under Trump. *However, Trump did NOTHING.

http://www.theverge.com/2020/12/14/22174429/solarwinds-hack-russia-cisa-christopher-krebs-cybersecurity-infrastructure

It was Trump's chaos that made America a sitting duck for cyberattacks.

[I]... For the past four years, Trump has treated the Federal cybersecurity effort as one more partisan battleground, with attacks and vulnerabilities embraced or rejected largely on the basis of their value as a political cudgel. Faced with a government spanning compromise that will require deep analysis and careful cooperation, theres little trust left to draw on, which could make a bad problem even worse..Wow, this is one big paragraph of garbage and a deep dive into your imagination. I'll leave it at this, leftwing radicals will never see the truth unless it supports their narrative. That is the only fact needed to be stated here. Trump could put on supermans cape and fly into the sky and save earth from an asteroid and you and your fellow leftwing radicals would not accept it. You would make up lies as you always do and / or twist the facts.

Fact 1--gas is 60% higher NOW than it was under Trump.

Fact 2--No issues with cyber attacks on the oil industry under 4 years of Trump.

You want to go off on a left wing radical trip running around screaming and crying for your daddy because you want to turn this into something it's not.

Simple facts. Please read above fact 1 and fact 2, both are truthful no matter what other way you try to lie or manipulate them.

TheRabbit
05-12-21, 14:14
There were no cyber-terrorists taking down pipelines under Trump watch.It seems you forgotten about the massive cyber attack at the nuclear weapons agency that happened under Trump "watch".

https://time.com/5922897/us-nuclear-weapons-energy-hacked/

TheRabbit
05-12-21, 17:37
Medical workers countrywide and even higher levels in NY were quitting, That is a lie because if that were true the death rate would be even HIGHER than it is now.


Nurses were afraid of covid because they didn't understand it was just a really bad cold (more or less). Nurses know damn well that COVID-19 is not a "bad cold" because they often have years of medical training because even really bad colds do not often kill the elderly, obese, or people with pre existing conditions.


Also people weren't getting regular testing done on their health again out of fear of the virus.Also not true, regular testing is still being done, it's how we know that flu deaths are way down and keeping track of deaths that are separate from COVID-19.


Hundreds of thousands needlessly died because of lack of medical treatment and undiagnosed issues which is why the number of deaths were higher last year.False 500,000-900,000 died because the former guy did not take the virus seriously and refuse to listen to the experts and you seem to ignoring that other countries have very high death rates because of COVID-19 and their hospitals often do not get pay for reporting COVID-19 deaths.

Sgt Soros
05-12-21, 18:09
Wow, this is one big paragraph of garbage and a deep dive into your imagination. I'll leave it at this, leftwing radicals will never see the truth unless it supports their narrative. That is the only fact needed to be stated here. Trump could put on supermans cape and fly into the sky and save earth from an asteroid and you and your fellow leftwing radicals would not accept it. You would make up lies as you always do and / or twist the facts.

Fact 1--gas is 60% higher NOW than it was under Trump.

Fact 2--No issues with cyber attacks on the oil industry under 4 years of Trump.

You want to go off on a left wing radical trip running around screaming and crying for your daddy because you want to turn this into something it's not.

Simple facts. Please read above fact 1 and fact 2, both are truthful no matter what other way you try to lie or manipulate them.You seem to have a blithely ignorant answer for everything. When you have no factual reply: throw up a mound of alternate reality bullshit and hope against hope that something sticks.

Fact 1. Gas prices are up largely because of increased demand. The Colonial pipeline closure has indeed lessened supply however pipelines are expected to be up and functional by Friday. Unlike trump, American's see a COMPETENT leader in Biden who has for the most part gotten the COVID Pandemic under control. We now have more vaccinated American's traveling, shopping, attending ball games, going to concerts etc and generally more optimistic about the future.

Fact 2. Wrong! You have conveniently forgotten to mention the massive Russian hack Solarwinds that was revealed late last year where Russian spies used a popular piece of software to unleash a virus that spread to 18,000 government and private computer networks. Oil, gas and technology firms were hit by this hack. Trump refused to confront his puppeteer master, Putin. The attack was unprecedented in audacity and scope. Russian spies went rummaging through the digital files of the USA Departments of Justice, State, Treasury, Energy, and Commerce and for nine months had unfettered access to top-level communications, court documents, even nuclear secrets. Trump did nothing except ***** about an election he claims was stolen from him.

SkyWookie
05-12-21, 21:50
You seem to have a blithely ignorant answer for everything. When you have no factual reply: throw up a mound of alternate reality bullshit and hope against hope that something sticks.

Fact 1. Gas prices are up largely because of increased demand. The Colonial pipeline closure has indeed lessened supply however pipelines are expected to be up and functional by Friday. Unlike trump, American's see a COMPETENT leader in Biden who has for the most part gotten the COVID Pandemic under control. We now have more vaccinated American's traveling, shopping, attending ball games, going to concerts etc and generally more optimistic about the future.

Fact 2. Wrong! You have conveniently forgotten to mention the massive Russian hack Solarwinds that was revealed late last year where Russian spies used a popular piece of software to unleash a virus that spread to 18,000 government and private computer networks. Oil, gas and technology firms were hit by this hack. Trump refused to confront his puppeteer master, Putin. The attack was unprecedented in audacity and scope. Russian spies went rummaging through the digital files of the USA Departments of Justice, State, Treasury, Energy, and Commerce and for nine months had unfettered access to top-level communications, court documents, even nuclear secrets. Trump did nothing except ***** about an election he claims was stolen from him.No I tell it like it is and in this thread you get attacked for the truth. Most of the people who post here are left wing radical nut jobs. You guys will argue against anything that doesn't fit your agenda, I've actually gotten somewhat used to read your lies and false information. You post articles from left wing sources and call it fact, I'm sorry, CNN, MSNBC, The new york times and most of everything you and your left wing nuts post are from sources that are backed by socialist and communist "organizations". The truth is you are a nut job, and again I'm just being honest, if you honestly believe any of the stuff you post you aren't as smart as you think you are.

Only those on the radical left think Biden is Competent, most democrats I talk to all agree they made a big mistake voting for Biden. I'm not sure why I try to keep arguing the facts with the left wing nuts like yourself, either you aren't smart enough to understand the truth.

TheRabbit
05-12-21, 22:04
You seem to have a blithely ignorant answer for everything. When you have no factual reply: throw up a mound of alternate reality bullshit and hope against hope that something sticks.
The Colonial pipeline closure has indeed lessened supply however pipelines are expected to be up and functional by Friday.

And what do you know it's now back online, so much for doom and gloom.

https://www-foxbusiness-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/www.foxbusiness.com/energy/colonial-pipeline-back-online-energy-secretary-says.amp?amp_js_v=a6&amp_gsa=1&usqp=mq331AQFKAGwASA%3D


No I tell it like it is and in this thread you get attacked for the truth. Most of the people who post here are left wing radical nut jobs. You guys will argue against anything that doesn't fit your agenda, I've actually gotten somewhat used to read your lies and false information. You post articles from left wing sources and call it fact, I'm sorry, CNN, MSNBC, The new york times and most of everything you and your left wing nuts post are from sources that are backed by socialist and communist "organizations". The truth is you are a nut job, and again I'm just being honest, if you honestly believe any of the stuff you post you aren't as smart as you think you are.

Only those on the radical left think Biden is Competent, most democrats I talk to all agree they made a big mistake voting for Biden. I'm not sure why I try to keep arguing the facts with the left wing nuts like yourself, either you aren't smart enough to understand the truth.
Ok so you have no real response to his reply, got it. Also your claiming a guy who got the COVID-relief bill pass, got 200 million shots with the first 100 days of the presidency is incompetent... yeah ok whatever you say. LOL

Fretz
05-12-21, 22:24
No I tell it like it is and in this thread you get attacked for the truth. Most of the people who post here are left wing radical nut jobs. You guys will argue against anything that doesn't fit your agenda, I've actually gotten somewhat used to read your lies and false information. You post articles from left wing sources and call it fact, I'm sorry, CNN, MSNBC, The new york times and most of everything you and your left wing nuts post are from sources that are backed by socialist and communist "organizations". The truth is you are a nut job, and again I'm just being honest, if you honestly believe any of the stuff you post you aren't as smart as you think you are.

Only those on the radical left think Biden is Competent, most democrats I talk to all agree they made a big mistake voting for Biden. I'm not sure why I try to keep arguing the facts with the left wing nuts like yourself, either you aren't smart enough to understand the truth.Well said!

Sgt Lurker
05-12-21, 22:42
Last time I will do your research for you. Here is one while hospital not mandating it until it is fully approved. Another one Houston is being taken to court for firing health workers who refused until fully approved.


The NHCS, a subdepartment of the CDC, publishes figures for all deaths by all causes for each year. They reported 345,323 deaths due to Covid-19 for 2020 alone, and overall report 503,976 more deaths than the prior year, when the year to year change has never so much as reached 6 digits before:

https://cdn.jamanetwork.com/ama/content_public/journal/jama/0/m_jvp210048t1_1617198261.3911.png?Expires=1623159637&Signature=LLvxxn2f2GnoR8ntDqx-Q1UNPn9BXk6n9HKwZVdYL00jklZR1YmAuQeLYuf9thd5i7dB8oLHaSmftcZF6kq9ZDedEB28I0KcTD~hZ2tKQTPbuuVlYZkDI2QTB2dcGemG3Lg0hnPAf2HdIuTN9k2BFH6i~MSYaPp6M5nOqSRtyMj39NV4-YHkVs4Lk2Nn5fhCL5pxpPo-dCmgebQf3sz8VyUOVDAW~ulWc8osmwj~~PMANEq2rC6KE6XCh6C~m1ndk7qjr4ocDc9ES~-4sb4fZiSzh~GgE7eM5~o2jG1W96MLNOTmOBDjfEpCVUeVt2OYqVYc4I7dulamTQoNChMNUw__&Key-Pair-Id=APKAIE5G5CRDK6RD3PGA

This increase in deaths has no plausible alternative explanation than Covid-19 nor is it hospital faking death certs to make money. Indeed given the difference its quite likely there are 10's of thousands of cases attributed to other causes which were put over the brink by Covid-19.

And as noted before, official government sources from around the world all report it.

https://www.ft.com/__origami/service/image/v2/images/raw/https%3A%2F%2Fd6c748xw2pzm8.cloudfront.net%2Fprod%2F4dee8c60-9702-11eb-9838-33ecf8170d91-fullwidth.png?dpr=1&fit=scale-down&quality=highest&source=next&width=1260

Do you believe that all official government sources are all lying to exaggerate the number of people in their country that died in their country in 2020 or early 2021, both for Covid-19 specifically AND total deaths? Indeed if anything those numbers indicate that government are if lying doing so exclusively to downplay the number of Covid-19 deaths. If that is the case than there isn't much point in further discussion.


Which talk shows and how many people are claiming this is happening?

HobbyMan51
05-12-21, 22:49
No I tell it like it is and in this thread you get attacked for the truth. Most of the people who post here are left wing radical nut jobs. You guys will argue against anything that doesn't fit your agenda, I've actually gotten somewhat used to read your lies and false information. You post articles from left wing sources and call it fact, I'm sorry, CNN, MSNBC, The new york times and most of everything you and your left wing nuts post are from sources that are backed by socialist and communist "organizations". The truth is you are a nut job, and again I'm just being honest, if you honestly believe any of the stuff you post you aren't as smart as you think you are.

Only those on the radical left think Biden is Competent, most democrats I talk to all agree they made a big mistake voting for Biden. I'm not sure why I try to keep arguing the facts with the left wing nuts like yourself, either you aren't smart enough to understand the truth.Whether its Little Georgie or Bugs or the T-Rex, they're all the same. They have not only AN answer for everything but THE answer for everything and to the contrary of all logic and reason. The prize of the day, however, goes to Little Georgie who piously said today that it is increased demand for gasoline that is responsible for the spike in prices the last few days, conveniently forgetting the wind turbine fiasco in Texas back in February that drove prices up 25 cents a gallon in a week and now the Russian sponsored pipeline supplier hack that has sent them through the roof. Increased demand? Hell yes there's increased demand. That's what usually happens when the fucking supply runs out! Very sharp, Georgie, very sharp. Also, very odd that prices remained stable the entire duration of Trump's Presidency yet all stability went to hell within days of the "presidency" of the dickfaced fartbag that now sits in the Oval Office. Eliminating the Keystone Pipeline his first minute in office was another brilliant idea signed into executive order by this fraudulent son of a *****. Our three stooges will no doubt find an excuse that exonerates their woke lords and masters and blames all of this on Trump insurrectionists but when the levee finally breaks and they are swept away along with the rest of us do you think they will finally get it then? Don't bet on it.

TheRabbit
05-12-21, 23:05
Last time I will do your research for you. Here is one while hospital not mandating it until it is fully approved. Another one Houston is being taken to court for firing health workers who refused until fully approved.Umm what are you talking about, we were not talking about hospital firing health workers?

I recommend you go back and check again.

Sgt Soros
05-13-21, 03:16
No I tell it like it is and in this thread you get attacked for the truth. Most of the people who post here are left wing radical nut jobs. You guys will argue against anything that doesn't fit your agenda, I've actually gotten somewhat used to read your lies and false information. You post articles from left wing sources and call it fact, I'm sorry, CNN, MSNBC, The new york times and most of everything you and your left wing nuts post are from sources that are backed by socialist and communist "organizations". The truth is you are a nut job, and again I'm just being honest, if you honestly believe any of the stuff you post you aren't as smart as you think you are.

Only those on the radical left think Biden is Competent, most democrats I talk to all agree they made a big mistake voting for Biden. I'm not sure why I try to keep arguing the facts with the left wing nuts like yourself, either you aren't smart enough to understand the truth.The latest polls should make your pea brain explode.

A new AP-NORC poll finds President Joe Bidens overall approval rating sits at 63%.

When it comes to the new Democratic presidents handling of the pandemic, 71% of Americans approve, including 47% of Republicans.

Gee whiz, who would have thought following the advice of medical experts in fighting a health crisis would have been popular? It just boggles the fucking mind. Hey and wait until the economy explodes this summer and this fall when the economy-infrastructure-etc benefits kick in.

TheRabbit
05-13-21, 07:46
conveniently forgetting the wind turbine fiasco in Texas back in February that drove prices up 25 cents a gallon in a week No that was because Texas had failed to winterized their power grid not because of wind turbines.

https://www-texastribune-org.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/www.texastribune.org/2021/02/16/texas-wind-turbines-frozen/amp/?amp_js_v=a6&amp_gsa=1&usqp=mq331AQHKAFQArABIA%3D%3D



Increased demand? Hell yes there's increased demand. That's what usually happens when the fucking supply runs out! The supply did not run out, they simply shut down their system to fix the problem, which they did.

Sgt Soros
05-13-21, 08:49
Keep huffing that glue, skippy! Your bullshit has a familiar ring, completely delusional and entirely non facts-based.


Whether its Little Georgie or Bugs or the T-Rex, they're all the same. They have not only AN answer for everything but THE answer for everything and to the contrary of all logic and reason. The prize of the day, however, goes to Little Georgie who piously said today that it is increased demand for gasoline that is responsible for the spike in prices the last few days, conveniently forgetting the wind turbine fiasco in Texas back in February that drove prices up 25 cents a gallon in a week and now the Russian sponsored pipeline supplier hack that has sent them through the roof. Increased demand? Hell yes there's increased demand. That's what usually happens when the fucking supply runs out! Very sharp, Georgie, very sharp. Also, very odd that prices remained stable the entire duration of Trump's Presidency yet all stability went to hell within days of the "presidency" of the dickfaced fartbag that now sits in the Oval Office. Eliminating the Keystone Pipeline his first minute in office was another brilliant idea signed into executive order by this fraudulent son of a *****. Our three stooges will no doubt find an excuse that exonerates their woke lords and masters and blames all of this on Trump insurrectionists but when the levee finally breaks and they are swept away along with the rest of us do you think they will finally get it then? Don't bet on it.

HeavyHitter12
05-13-21, 14:48
A new AP-NORC poll finds President Joe Bidens overall approval rating sits at 63%.

When it comes to the new Democratic presidents handling of the pandemic, 71% of Americans approve, including 47% of Republicans.

I'm still waiting to be polled. Or anyone that I know to be polled.

HobbyMan51
05-13-21, 15:18
A new AP-NORC poll finds President Joe Bidens overall approval rating sits at 63%.

When it comes to the new Democratic presidents handling of the pandemic, 71% of Americans approve, including 47% of Republicans.

I'm still waiting to be polled. Or anyone that I know to be polled.Absurd, laughable, and outrageous. So 63% of Americans approve of the flatulent scarecrow's destruction of America, eh? This asshole handles nothing. His handlers handle him and tell him which foot to put in front of the other. He is a fraud and a monumental disgrace to the office. Disgusting.

HobbyMan51
05-13-21, 15:52
No that was because Texas had failed to winterized their power grid not because of wind turbines.

https://www-texastribune-org.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/www.texastribune.org/2021/02/16/texas-wind-turbines-frozen/amp/?amp_js_v=a6&amp_gsa=1&usqp=mq331AQHKAFQArABIA%3D%3D

The supply did not run out, they simply shut down their system to fix the problem, which they did.The article so generously supplied by you does indeed say that the wind turbines froze up which was a major contribution to the failure of the power grid. The point is that wind turbines are one of the darling pet projects of the Green New Deal, a "deal" that is not a deal at all and that has major flaws as recently illustrated, a "deal" that continues to be pushed by the radical woke fools of your Democratic party. The price of gasoline rose by 20 to twenty five cents a gallon in the days that followed the Great Texas Freeze-Out because of refinery issues directly resulting from the power outages across the state.

When gas stations have no gas the general perception is that their supply of gas has run out. At one point at least 47% of gas stations in Georgia had run out of gas. You can spin it any way you wish but the common consumer does not give a flying damn whether the system was shut down or not or for what reason. The reality was / is that 47% of gas stations had no gas and to most people not named Rabbit that means that the stations had run out of gas and therefore the supply had indeed run out for those gas stations and the unfortunate consumers who were trying to fill up their cars with that gas. Colonial shut down the system but the problem still remains for at least the next few days. You will deny that, just as you insist that 2+2 does not equal 4 and that up is not really up but down.

Show the Rabbit a tree and he will insist that the tree is not a tree but is actually an aardvark. Such is the logic of the Rabbit.

CrestWood87
05-13-21, 16:37
A new AP-NORC poll finds President Joe Bidens overall approval rating sits at 63%.

When it comes to the new Democratic presidents handling of the pandemic, 71% of Americans approve, including 47% of Republicans.

I'm still waiting to be polled. Or anyone that I know to be polled.It's actually 6. 3% they keep moving the decimal.

TheRabbit
05-13-21, 19:11
The article so generously supplied by you does indeed say that the wind turbines froze up which was a major contribution to the failure of the power grid. The point is that wind turbines are one of the darling pet projects of the Green New Deal, a "deal" that is not a deal at all and that has major flaws as recently illustrated, a "deal" that continues to be pushed by the radical woke fools of your Democratic party. The price of gasoline rose by 20 to twenty five cents a gallon in the days that followed the Great Texas Freeze-Out because of refinery issues directly resulting from the power outages across the state.

You did not really read that link which flat out states in bold on the top of the page

"No, frozen wind turbines arent the main culprit for Texas power outages"


wind turbines makes up FRACTION of Texas energy grid (which they also failed to winterized) plus the green deal ISN'T Federal law. The Green Deal hasn't passed in Texas or elsewhere, and it wouldn't be binding even if it did.

https://amp-statesman-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/amp.statesman.com/amp/4508167001?amp_js_v=a6&amp_gsa=1&usqp=mq331AQHKAFQArABIA%3D%3D#aoh=16209480241692&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&amp_tf=From%20%251%24s&ampshare=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.statesman.com%2Fstory%2Fnews%2Fpolitics%2Fpolitifact%2F2021%2F02%2F19%2Ftexas-power-outage-green-new-deal-wind-turbines-texas-grid-fox-news-texas%2F4508167001%2F


It's actually 6. 3% they keep moving the decimal.
Pretty sure it's 63% unless you have proof otherwise.


Absurd, laughable, and outrageous. So 63% of Americans approve of the flatulent scarecrow's destruction of America, eh?
It was the other previous guy who was destroying America and now the people like president Biden who is repairing America which explains the 63% approval rate.

Niteluvr
05-13-21, 19:17
It's actually 6. 3% they keep moving the decimal.Wow, 6. 3% is a very low approval rating. Sounds about right.

ComTech42
05-13-21, 21:12
You did not really read that link which flat out states in bold on the top of the page

"No, frozen wind turbines arent the main culprit for Texas power outages"


wind turbines makes up FRACTION of Texas energy grid (which they also failed to winterized) plus the green deal ISN'T Federal law. The Green Deal hasn't passed in Texas or elsewhere, and it wouldn't be binding even if it did.

https://amp-statesman-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/amp.statesman.com/amp/4508167001?amp_js_v=a6&amp_gsa=1&usqp=mq331AQHKAFQArABIA%3D%3D#aoh=16209480241692&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&amp_tf=From%20%251%24s&ampshare=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.statesman.com%2Fstory%2Fnews%2Fpolitics%2Fpolitifact%2F2021%2F02%2F19%2Ftexas-power-outage-green-new-deal-wind-turbines-texas-grid-fox-news-texas%2F4508167001%2F


Pretty sure it's 63% unless you have proof otherwise.


It was the other previous guy who was destroying America and now the people like president Biden who is repairing America which explains the 63% approval rate.What about that damn Trump giving us lower priced gas and providing the jobs so we can build a pipeline to get oil down from Canada to help assure an steady supply. Damn that guy ne forced Biden to shut down the pipe line so the Union workers to go to school to get jobs on the Geek Squad.

And we could Learn patience waiting in line like good little commrads. And he put back to work some hackers in Russia stopping an existing pipeline.

Good thing Joe is at the helm to push up gas prices.

TheRabbit
05-13-21, 21:30
What about that damn Trump giving us lower priced gas and providing the jobs so we can build a pipeline to get oil down from Canada to help assure an steady supply. Damn that guy ne forced Biden to shut down the pipe line so the Union workers to go to school to get jobs on the Geek Squad.

Good thing Joe is at the helm to push up gas prices.The Keystone Pipeline has been pretty much a dead project since 2015 in fact before Biden signed his executive order, only a 1. 2-mile section of the pipeline had been completed in Montana near the USA -Canada border.

Wow, 6. 3% is a very low approval rating. Sounds about right.
No that sounds very wrong actually.

RogerOver
05-13-21, 21:36
Absurd, laughable, and outrageous. So 63% of Americans approve of the flatulent scarecrow's destruction of America, eh? This asshole handles nothing. His handlers handle him and tell him which foot to put in front of the other. He is a fraud and a monumental disgrace to the office. Disgusting.You are a stupid turd and a monumental embarrassment to anyone that values fluid or insightful thoughts. Sadly, I wish it were more rare to bump into your species of dumbass these days, but it's not.

RogerOver
05-13-21, 21:37
Wow, 6. 3% is a very low approval rating. Sounds about right.I've had runny bowel movements that are smarter than you are. Sadly, your bullshit will be what faux news is pushing tomorrow.

HobbyMan51
05-13-21, 22:34
You did not really read that link which flat out states in bold on the top of the page

"No, frozen wind turbines arent the main culprit for Texas power outages"


wind turbines makes up FRACTION of Texas energy grid (which they also failed to winterized) plus the green deal ISN'T Federal law. The Green Deal hasn't passed in Texas or elsewhere, and it wouldn't be binding even if it did.

https://amp-statesman-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/amp.statesman.com/amp/4508167001?amp_js_v=a6&amp_gsa=1&usqp=mq331AQHKAFQArABIA%3D%3D#aoh=16209480241692&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&amp_tf=From%20%251%24s&ampshare=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.statesman.com%2Fstory%2Fnews%2Fpolitics%2Fpolitifact%2F2021%2F02%2F19%2Ftexas-power-outage-green-new-deal-wind-turbines-texas-grid-fox-news-texas%2F4508167001%2F


Pretty sure it's 63% unless you have proof otherwise.


It was the other previous guy who was destroying America and now the people like president Biden who is repairing America which explains the 63% approval rate.Biden is repairing America? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Please feed your bullshit to someone who can really appreciate it like Roger (please see Roger's kind comments above). 63% approval rating? Obviously this "poll" was generously selective although I am sure that you will drone on and on to us about how real it is. More utter bullshit.

HobbyMan51
05-13-21, 22:38
You did not really read that link which flat out states in bold on the top of the page

"No, frozen wind turbines arent the main culprit for Texas power outages"


wind turbines makes up FRACTION of Texas energy grid (which they also failed to winterized) plus the green deal ISN'T Federal law. The Green Deal hasn't passed in Texas or elsewhere, and it wouldn't be binding even if it did.

https://amp-statesman-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/amp.statesman.com/amp/4508167001?amp_js_v=a6&amp_gsa=1&usqp=mq331AQHKAFQArABIA%3D%3D#aoh=16209480241692&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&amp_tf=From%20%251%24s&ampshare=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.statesman.com%2Fstory%2Fnews%2Fpolitics%2Fpolitifact%2F2021%2F02%2F19%2Ftexas-power-outage-green-new-deal-wind-turbines-texas-grid-fox-news-texas%2F4508167001%2F


Pretty sure it's 63% unless you have proof otherwise.


It was the other previous guy who was destroying America and now the people like president Biden who is repairing America which explains the 63% approval rate.I didn't say the Green New Deal was law. I said that the anarchist fools that you support are pushing it to be law. Please learn how to read although that probably is too much for us to ask of you. Or of Roger for that matter.

HobbyMan51
05-13-21, 22:41
I've had runny bowel movements that are smarter than you are. Sadly, your bullshit will be what faux news is pushing tomorrow.Night's subtle sense of humor obviously overwhelmed your little liberal brain. Don't play with the big boys, Roger. You'll just end up being embarrassed and we would all really hate to see that.

Sgt Lurker
05-13-21, 22:47
Absurd, laughable, and outrageous. So 63% of Americans approve of the flatulent scarecrow's destruction of America, eh? This asshole handles nothing. His handlers handle him and tell him which foot to put in front of the other. He is a fraud and a monumental disgrace to the office. Disgusting.Did you hear at a recent press conference when asked a question he responds with something like, "I don't think I am supposed to answer that. " As if someone tells him what questions he is and is not allowed to answer.

HobbyMan51
05-13-21, 22:56
Did you hear at a recent press conference when asked a question he responds with something like, "I don't think I am supposed to answer that. " As if someone tells him what questions he is and is not allowed to answer.That is exactly what they are doing. There is always someone in the background whose job it is to handle Mighty Joe and make sure that he doesn't get in too far over his head (newsflash: he's over his head as soon as he wakes up in the morning.), has his mask on, and has his notecards in his pocket. He makes Millard Fillmore look like a Colossus in comparison.

TheRabbit
05-13-21, 22:58
Did you hear at a recent press conference when asked a question he responds with something like, "I don't think I am supposed to answer that. " As if someone tells him what questions he is and is not allowed to answer.Or he was joking with the reporters... Which he was.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9575089/Biden-tells-reporters-Im-not-supposed-answering-questions.html

"Biden went to walk away from the podium but was asked by a member of the press about one of his meetings that day.

The president turned and responded: 'Which one of the 12 I've had?'

As both the president and White House press corps laugh, the reporter responds: 'Infrastructure sir.'

Biden replies: 'You guys are bad, I'm not supposed to be answering all these questions. I'm supposed to leave but I can't resist your questions.' "

HobbyMan51
05-13-21, 23:22
Or he was joking with the reporters... Which he was.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9575089/Biden-tells-reporters-Im-not-supposed-answering-questions.html

"Biden went to walk away from the podium but was asked by a member of the press about one of his meetings that day.

The president turned and responded: 'Which one of the 12 I've had?'

As both the president and White House press corps laugh, the reporter responds: 'Infrastructure sir.'

Biden replies: 'You guys are bad, I'm not supposed to be answering all these questions. I'm supposed to leave but I can't resist your questions.' "He wasn't joking. He was being the hollow husk of a human being that he always is. You know that this guy is a total joke, Rabbit, you know it, and the joke would be funny if it wasn't so mindlessly destructive. But it is, and you support it, Rabbit. Unfortunately there is an even bigger joke that's coming soon and that joke is called kamala the laughing hyena. Coming soon to an Oval Office near you.

Sgt Soros
05-14-21, 05:52
A new AP-NORC poll finds President Joe Bidens overall approval rating sits at 63%.

When it comes to the new Democratic presidents handling of the pandemic, 71% of Americans approve, including 47% of Republicans.

I'm still waiting to be polled. Or anyone that I know to be polled.

Well, recent polls show trump has the support of about 80-85 percent of GOP voters. Just curious, have you or anyone you know been contacted by any of these pollsters or are you still waiting?

Its impractical to poll the entire U.S. population of 145 million registered voters. This is why pollsters select a sample of individuals that represent the whole population.

Sgt Soros
05-14-21, 05:57
Officials in Palm Beach, Fla., are reportedly considering a course of action should former President Trump be indicted by Manhattan District Attorney Cy Vance Jr. while he is staying at Mar-a-Lago.

According to reports, law enforcement officials in the town have discussed how to handle a possible extradition if Trump is indicted*by authorities investigating whether he committed banking and tax fraud.

Well Trumpers you're always shouting about somebody being locked up. Be careful what you wish for....lol

Sgt Lurker
05-14-21, 06:57
Of course the media who are falling all over themselves to get to suck his puny dick would make up stories. Just really listen to the man the same you folks suffering TDS listened to President Trump.


Or he was joking with the reporters... Which he was.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9575089/Biden-tells-reporters-Im-not-supposed-answering-questions.html
"Biden went to walk away from the podium but was asked by a member of the press about one of his meetings that day.
The president turned and responded: 'Which one of the 12 I've had?'
As both the president and White House press corps laugh, the reporter responds: 'Infrastructure sir.'
Biden replies: 'You guys are bad, I'm not supposed to be answering all these questions. I'm supposed to leave but I can't resist your questions.' "

HeavyHitter12
05-14-21, 07:03
Well, recent polls show trump has the support of about 80-85 percent of GOP voters. Just curious, have you or anyone you know been contacted by any of these pollsters or are you still waiting?


Its impractical to poll the entire U.S. population of 145 million registered voters. This is why pollsters select a sample of individuals that represent the whole population.No I haven't, and yes still waiting. 155 million voted in the last election, but 145 million registered voters does sound about right.

TheRabbit
05-14-21, 07:38
Of course the media who are falling all over themselves would make up stories.The link has video of the interview, not made up.

Sgt Soros
05-14-21, 08:02
No I haven't, and yes still waiting. 155 million voted in the last election, but 145 million registered voters does sound about right.

Cletus, my bad, I stand corrected. I was off by 10 million voters. Its 155 million registered voters. Out of which, 81 million voted for the current occupant in the WH; 74 million voted for the loser trump.

Correction: Its impractical to poll an entire population of 155 million registered voters in the United States. This is why pollsters select a sample of individuals that represent the whole population.

Happy now?

TheRabbit
05-14-21, 08:49
He wasn't joking. Yeah he was, you just don't want to admit it. 😁.

HeavyHitter12
05-14-21, 09:56
Cletus, my bad, I stand corrected. I was off by 10 million voters. Its 155 million registered voters. Out of which, 81 million voted for the current occupant in the WH; 74 million voted for the loser trump.

Correction: Its impractical to poll an entire population of 155 million registered voters in the United States. This is why pollsters select a sample of individuals that represent the whole population.

Happy now?I'm just having a little fun with you. I hope Biden far exceeds my expectations. But I'm heading back to the other threads now.

Sgt Soros
05-14-21, 10:14
I'm just having a little fun with you. I hope Biden far exceeds my expectations. But I'm heading back to the other threads now.Actually, I'm quite relaxed. I just enjoy "triggering" trump cultists.

TheRonChapman
05-14-21, 11:46
To do research and find legit providers who provide the specific things that I want. The reviews are the way to this outcome. I can not for the life of me understand why people can not do it correctly. Some talk about the providers by their name (this is good) but do not provide a link (this is stupid) They act like we all hang out at the same bar. I mean WTF? Just because you know every girl in town and are in the club, realize that a lot of us travel and we go onto that cities board to find out who we should call. Your inside knowledge of all the girls doesn't do anyone any good. Fucking provide a link. Then there are those that do not give any information at all. "I had a great dream" doesn't tell anyone anything. Maybe you are a gross lonely POS. A great dream to you might be that you didn't get kicked out of the room. To me some things are important to know. Things like, how accurate are the pictures, attitude, bare BJ or covered (deal breaker for me). What did you pay, how long were you there, did you get what you expected and would you go again. Then there are those that for some reason think they are writing an article for Penthouse forum. I have a full time + career, I have shit to do. I have no desire to read your fucking lame attempt at creative writing. So here is the model you should follow.

Who: Name the provider goes but and a MF'and link.

Accuracy of pics: Is it her pictures? Are they touched up? Old? Not her but representative? Catfish?

LINK.

How long: QV, 1/2 HR, HR, Extended.

LINK.

How much: What did you pay?

LINK.

Details of the visit. What did you do, how did she perform, how did she act, up-sale?

LiNK.

What you don't know.

LINK.

Would you visit again.

LINK.

This isn't a fucking college football board, there is no bragging rights. We should be making it safer and easier to connect with providers that are worth seeing, perform the services that we are looking for and half or more of the reviews are simply worthless.

Get your shit together.

Niteluvr
05-14-21, 12:27
To do research and find legit providers who provide the specific things that I want. The reviews are the way to this outcome. I can not for the life of me understand why people can not do it correctly. Some talk about the providers by their name (this is good) but do not provide a link (this is stupid) They act like we all hang out at the same bar. I mean WTF? Just because you know every girl in town and are in the club, realize that a lot of us travel and we go onto that cities board to find out who we should call. Your inside knowledge of all the girls doesn't do anyone any good. Fucking provide a link. Then there are those that do not give any information at all. "I had a great dream" doesn't tell anyone anything. Maybe you are a gross lonely POS. A great dream to you might be that you didn't get kicked out of the room. To me some things are important to know. Things like, how accurate are the pictures, attitude, bare BJ or covered (deal breaker for me). What did you pay, how long were you there, did you get what you expected and would you go again. Then there are those that for some reason think they are writing an article for Penthouse forum. I have a full time + career, I have shit to do. I have no desire to read your fucking lame attempt at creative writing. So here is the model you should follow.Great post. I'll add one more: Dipshits who use the subject line as a preface or lead-in to their posts instead of using it for what it's intended to be, a subject!

Niteluvr
05-14-21, 14:22
Night's subtle sense of humor obviously overwhelmed your little liberal brain. Don't play with the big boys, Roger. You'll just end up being embarrassed and we would all really hate to see that.RogerOver, aka "runny bowel movement," seems to be suffering from bowel incontinence issues, coupled with deep anger and depression ever since his 30-year career as "lead" mop boy at Chuck E Cheese was upended when management fired him and replaced him with a retarded kid.

Has anyone noticed his posting history? He hops from city to city as a board troller, pissing people off wherever he posts. He's like an Oldti with frequent flier miles.

RogerOver
05-14-21, 17:50
Did you hear at a recent press conference when asked a question he responds with something like, "I don't think I am supposed to answer that. " As if someone tells him what questions he is and is not allowed to answer.For sure. It's so much better when you have a dumb fuck up there that suggests injecting bleach or taking anti-malaria meds.

DrPornDawger
05-14-21, 17:54
I find it Ironic that in this hobbying world, providers want to stay anonymous, but yet share a lot of information on social media:

I was urged to retweet her photo and say, Let's do a mother daughter session or gangbang.

I restrained myslef, incase twitter or she blacklists me.

But I think her daughter might be Hot.

Anyone else feel this way?

https://www.daisyatlanta.com/

https://twitter.com/DaisyAtlanta

Niteluvr
05-14-21, 18:47
Great post. I'll add one more: Dipshits who use the subject line as a preface or lead-in to their posts instead of using it for what it's intended to be, a subject!Addendum: To TheRonChapman, I wasn't picking on you when I mentioned the subject line issue. I was making a general statement for all. Sorry for any confusion.

RedneckStud
05-15-21, 07:47
I find it Ironic that in this hobbying world, providers want to stay anonymous, but yet share a lot of information on social media:

I was urged to retweet her photo and say, Let's do a mother daughter session or gangbang.

I restrained myslef, incase twitter or she blacklists me.

But I think her daughter might be Hot.

Anyone else feel this way?

https://www.daisyatlanta.com/

https://twitter.com/DaisyAtlantaGood thing you showed restraint. I don't think there's a chance of that happening.

HobbyMan51
05-16-21, 12:09
If he hated asians so much why did he frequent the places so much. Why didn't he see caucasians. Your being to quick to judge. It ain't always about race.Little Georgie is always quick to judge since he knows everything and will not hesitate to tell you that. It is useless to argue with him. He is incapable of understanding that he is wrong 99% of time. This time is no exception. These attacks were not racist. You know that. We know that. Little Georgie must make them racist to fit his mindless liberal agenda. He is a toad. His brain is a vacuum of empty air. Know him for what he is and dismiss him.

Sgt Soros
05-16-21, 18:20
Little Georgie is always quick to judge since he knows everything and will not hesitate to tell you that. It is useless to argue with him. He is incapable of understanding that he is wrong 99% of time. This time is no exception. These attacks were not racist. You know that. We know that. Little Georgie must make them racist to fit his mindless liberal agenda. He is a toad. His brain is a vacuum of empty air. Know him for what he is and dismiss him.

Hold tight to your delusions, Stooge. I've pissed all over most of the dumb political shit you post. You're just an angry loser, like all MAGAT's. And for someone who doesn't value my opinion you sure spend a lot of time talking about me. I feel so validated...lol

HobbyMan51
05-16-21, 21:44
For sure. It's so much better when you have a dumb fuck up there that suggests injecting bleach or taking anti-malaria meds.Wow. So original there, Roger. A taken-out-of-context off the cuff remark that Mensa candidates such as yourself just cannot let go of. You've had a whole year to come up with something better and this is the best that you can do? And you have the balls to call someone a dumb fuck with the below average IQ that you possess? It's so true: You can't point out someone's stupidity to them if they are too stupid to understand that they are stupid. Such is the case here. By the way, those anti-malaria meds were quite effective in treating the virus symptoms of many patients. Too bad you missed the info on that but that's what happens when CNN is too far up your ass for you to notice the realities around you. Night is correct. You are a dumb fuck troll who travels around the country spreading your stupidity everywhere you go. I checked out your posts too. Pathetic.

ComTech42
05-16-21, 22:47
Hold tight to your delusions, Stooge. I've pissed all over most of the dumb political shit you post. You're just an angry loser, like all MAGAT's. And for someone who doesn't value my opinion you sure spend a lot of time talking about me. I feel so validated...lolThe bilge that pours from your mouth never ceases to amaze me. Just what army made you a SGT. Name calling is a weapon of the weak. You have no logical defense of your positions so throw up flack.

HobbyMan51
05-16-21, 23:55
The bilge that pours from your mouth never ceases to amaze me. Just what army made you a SGT. Name calling is a weapon of the weak. You have no logical defense of your positions so throw up flack.I write about him because he is the poster boy of vapid insanity for this thread. A lot of people agree with my "shit" here on this site but not so much for you Georgie, and that is precisely because common sense always overshadows the toxic poison that resides inside of you. ComTech knows it. Most posters here know it. Little Sgt. Georgie Soros is a leftist anarchist. His hatred for Trump and the rest of us who value common sense over trash talk is unlimited as opposed to his intellect which is on an extremely short leash. He wants this country to burn. His side won but still he is sooo angry like all of his good little leftist friends. Rage on, Georgie. ComTech has your number. He knows you are weak. We do too.

Sgt Soros
05-17-21, 02:54
The bilge that pours from your mouth never ceases to amaze me. Just what army made you a SGT. Name calling is a weapon of the weak. You have no logical defense of your positions so throw up flack.More verbal diarrhea from Comtech. We have fresh Depends for all you trumphy loons.

Sgt Lurker
05-17-21, 08:32
The bilge that pours from your mouth never ceases to amaze me. Just what army made you a SGT. Name calling is a weapon of the weak. You have no logical defense of your positions so throw up flack.Georgie can't help himself. He is so engrained with the left that if they made a sudden turn without warning his neck might snap.

Sgt Soros
05-17-21, 08:58
Georgie can't help himself. He is so engrained with the left that if they made a sudden turn without warning his neck might snap.Says the dude who drinks trumphy cult hobo juice.

HobbyMan51
05-17-21, 14:12
Georgie can't help himself. He is so engrained with the left that if they made a sudden turn without warning his neck might snap.Poor Georgie. All these negative comments! You can just see him now, stamping his little leftist feet in his little leftist virtue-signaled sandbox. Bless his little heart.

Sgt Soros
05-17-21, 17:32
Bravo, you took the bait and proved my point, exactly empty rhetoric, sheer empty rhetoric. Thank you for delivering and on time! You win the "I am really dumb and don't know it" award. You can feel confident that you have no competition in that category.


I write about him because he is the poster boy of vapid insanity for this thread. A lot of people agree with my "shit" here on this site but not so much for you Georgie, and that is precisely because common sense always overshadows the toxic poison that resides inside of you. ComTech knows it. Most posters here know it. Little Sgt. Georgie Soros is a leftist anarchist. His hatred for Trump and the rest of us who value common sense over trash talk is unlimited as opposed to his intellect which is on an extremely short leash. He wants this country to burn. His side won but still he is sooo angry like all of his good little leftist friends. Rage on, Georgie. ComTech has your number. He knows you are weak. We do too.


Poor Georgie. All these negative comments! You can just see him now, stamping his little leftist feet in his little leftist virtue-signaled sandbox. Bless his little heart.

LoveARub69
05-17-21, 18:36
I saw where a guy in Colorado murdered his wife then voted her absentee for trump. He said he wanted trump to win really bad. You can't make this stuff up.

HobbyMan51
05-17-21, 21:39
I saw where a guy in Colorado murdered his wife then voted her absentee for trump. He said he wanted trump to win really bad. You can't make this stuff up.So, in your small little mind that is a blanket indictment of everyone who voted for Trump, eh? Your brainpower is truly awesome as is your originality of thought. When Biden and his monsters are done with you you will wish that Trump had won really bad too. Smirk away while you can.

RedneckStud
05-18-21, 09:52
So, in your small little mind that is a blanket indictment of everyone who voted for Trump, eh? Your brainpower is truly awesome as is your originality of thought. When Biden and his monsters are done with you you will wish that Trump had won really bad too. Smirk away while you can.I will never miss Trump. Not ever. He was a complete embarrassment as a person, nevermind as President.

LoveARub69
05-18-21, 10:01
So, in your small little mind that is a blanket indictment of everyone who voted for Trump, eh? Your brainpower is truly awesome as is your originality of thought. When Biden and his monsters are done with you you will wish that Trump had won really bad too. Smirk away while you can.There's also the trumper in Pennsylvania that sent in ballots for his dead mother and dead mother in law. So yeah it looks like a pattern. Yet who's the loudest voices calling the election "The Big Lie"? Once again it's deluded trumpers.

LoveARub69
05-18-21, 10:05
So, in your small little mind that is a blanket indictment of everyone who voted for Trump, eh? Your brainpower is truly awesome as is your originality of thought. When Biden and his monsters are done with you you will wish that Trump had won really bad too. Smirk away while you can.I only mentioned the one trumper in my origional comment. You're the one that extrapolated it out to include all trumpers. Freudian slip?

Aaron Hamlet
05-18-21, 10:21
I only mentioned the one trumper in my origional comment. You're the one that extrapolated it out to include all trumpers. Freudian slip?How did your father hurt you? The scars left on your psyche are visible.

Aaron Hamlet
05-18-21, 13:24
Remember when gas was $1. 99 in places, the Keystone XL Pipeline was in production, the border was secured, and we were seeing record amounts of peace accords in the Middle East with Israel among Arab Nations?

HobbyMan51
05-18-21, 15:14
I only mentioned the one trumper in my origional comment. You're the one that extrapolated it out to include all trumpers. Freudian slip?No, not at all. Your title line said "Trumpists are crazy". That's plural. The insinuation of your title line was that all people who voted for Trump are crazy. Maybe it was your Freudian slip. Yes, some people who voted for Trump are crazy. This guy was crazy. Statistically, some people in any group, political or otherwise, are crazy. That's just life. But that's not what you meant and you know it.

HobbyMan51
05-18-21, 15:23
I will never miss Trump. Not ever. He was a complete embarrassment as a person, nevermind as President.I have no problem that you didn't like the guy and will never miss him. We all have the right to like or dislike whoever we choose. However, too many people, including too many friends of mine, ended up making the election a popularity contest and voted for a compromised clown who will prove to be an even greater embarrassment to this country than Trump ever was for you and others. That, in my opinion, is a far greater problem.

TheRabbit
05-18-21, 15:31
the Keystone XL Pipeline was in productionI remember that The Keystone Pipeline has been pretty much a dead project since 2015 in fact before Biden signed his executive order, only a 1. 2-mile section of the pipeline had been completed in Montana near the USA -Canada border.


the border was secured,I don't recall that ever happening.



we were seeing record amounts of peace accords in the Middle East with Israel among Arab Nations?There have been many peace deals between the two... Most of them don't last unfortunately.

HobbyMan51
05-18-21, 15:36
Remember when gas was $1. 99 in places, the Keystone XL Pipeline was in production, the border was secured, and we were seeing record amounts of peace accords in the Middle East with Israel among Arab Nations?Girls sports? Gone. Energy independence? Gone. Any possibility of racial harmony? Gone. It's almost as if he's doing it on purpose, isn't it?

Niteluvr
05-18-21, 17:25
There's also the trumper in Pennsylvania that sent in ballots for his dead mother and dead mother in law. So yeah it looks like a pattern. Yet who's the loudest voices calling the election "The Big Lie"? Once again it's deluded trumpers.Are two alleged instances of anything large scale (voting, in this example) a pattern? If all someone sees in life are minute numbers of things that are outside the norm, most folks would label that as paranoia.

Aaron Hamlet
05-18-21, 21:22
Girls sports? Gone. Energy independence? Gone. Any possibility of racial harmony? Gone. It's almost as if he's doing it on purpose, isn't it?Letting chicks w / dicks compete against HS and college girls is evil and ludicrous.

Biden family has made tens of millions of dollars from China over the last 30 years. China has thousands of pics of hunter, and prob joe, raping young Chinese girls. The CCP wants a race war and social upheaval in the US and the CCP virus wasn't an accident. Joe's blackmailed and doesn't even know he's alive. Kamala's behind a dumpster sucking CCP cock. From the great Chinese military leader, Sun Tzu: "The greatest victory is that which requires no battle. ".

TheRabbit
05-18-21, 23:08
Girls sports? Gone. No it's not.


Energy independence? Gone. No it's not and that may not be a thing.

https://www.piie.com/blogs/realtime-economic-issues-watch/why-us-energy-independence-wont-mean-greater-us-energy-autonomy


Any possibility of racial harmony? Gone.HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

I HIGHLY DOUBT the other guy would have helped healed the rift. In fact he made it worse.

TheRabbit
05-18-21, 23:28
Biden family has made tens of millions of dollars from China over the last 30 years. .Biden taxes tell a different story compare to the other guy, oh no wait the other guy refuses to show his.


China has thousands of pics of hunter, and prob joe, raping young Chinese girls. No they don't and no such pictures exist because they didn't happen.


CCP wants a race war and social upheaval in the USA lot of countries that hate the US probably wants this happen, not just China.


the virus wasn't an accident. COVID-19 was a natural occurrence.


Joe's blackmailed and doesn't even know he's alive. No he's not, and he's very aware he's alive.


Kamala's behind a dumpster sucking CCP cock. Nope she currently in the White House right now, showing her taxes returns to the American people unlike the other guy who to this day refuses to show his.