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Forgot to add. So you fucked up your first two alleged languages and are now working on your third? At what point in life will you decide to stop being a dismal reflection of America's immigrants and go fuck off on a remote island forever? It's too late for birth control, so it's up to you now, boy.
Hate to be a pessimist so I've started a GoFundMe campaign to send you, the a-hole, off to Bikini Atoll.How can we donate please send sky and gross dog or tell them thay can get FS I bet it will work.
Nope, just a question.Don't say that he may want you to be a ladyboy LOL. And who wants that at a camp.
LOL,
You are a real troll and a truly represent redneck bone head. I bet you work at buuba's tire shop and check and post something on every break you get. Usually people who never went to college are obsessed with other people's spelling and grammar.
Anyway, Liberal = love and respect.
Racist and rednecks like you = Hate, bigotry and making fun of other people's accent, pronunciation and spelling.
By the way English is my third language and I have pretty good command of it.
Go fuck yourself, LOL.Careful when you throw out general shit like that.
Some of us rednecks are more educated than you, with very high IQ's, and don't take kindly to being called racist.
You liberals talk a big game on here, but I promise you, this is one redneck, that you would not call racist in person.
Just don't group everyone together, libs are notorious for the name calling, but can't back it up.
But hell, what do I know, I'm just a dumbass redneck. LOL.
Oh yea, some of the smartest, kindest, most successful people ,Ive known DID NOT attend college. For whatever reason.
Typical liberal, talking down to the uneducated... really? What a closed minded thing to say.
How does it feel to be better than everyone else?
Liberal elitism,gotta love it.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=J9SsH3Hn0bo
Don't even got to state anything to him. This Tuesday election results will tell what America wants.
Careful when you throw out general shit like that.
Some of us rednecks are more educated than you, with very high IQ's, and don't take kindly to being called racist.
You liberals talk a big game on here, but I promise you, this is one redneck, that you would not call racist in person.
Just don't group everyone together, libs are notorious for the name calling, but can't back it up.
But hell, what do I know, I'm just a dumbass redneck. LOL.
Oh yea, some of the smartest, kindest, most successful people ,Ive known DID NOT attend college. For whatever reason.
Typical liberal, talking down to the uneducated... really? What a closed minded thing to say.
How does it feel to be better than everyone else?
Liberal elitism,gotta love it.
Can we finally stop all the bullshit about how one party is going to decimate the other in this election. As I write this, we still don't know who the next President will be, and even after the counting has ended, challenges, recounts, and lawsuits will keep thing muddled for the foreseeable future. What we do know is that this country deeply and evenly divided and that if we cannot figure out a way to work together we are screwed. Somehow, somewhere, reason must prevail.
At least the end of the election will allow us to get serious about the Covid virus. Over 100,000 new cases yesterday shows that our current tactics have been unsuccessful. The vaunted Swedish model has crumbled and they have come to the realisation that ignoring the problem will not make it go away. Unfortunately stern measures are necessary on a temporary basis until a vaccine is developed and distributed.
In the words of Pogo, "We have met the enemy and he is us. ".
I Luv Emall
11-05-20, 14:18
The vaunted Swedish model has crumbled and they have come to the realisation that ignoring the problem will not make it go away. Unfortunately stern measures are necessary on a temporary basis until a vaccine is developed and distributed.
Do you mind sharing what you're basing that on? If you look at the current rates of France, Belgium, and some other European countries that practiced your stern measures, Sweden is not doing any worse (in fact, better in some cases). I have not seen a change in their policy towards Coronavirus. Do you know something the rest of us don't?
Now, if you take into consideration on top of that the socioeconomic impact of these "stern measures", not just on said country implementing them, but worldwide, you have to wonder who the enemy really is? No one knows how long a vaccine might take, or how effective that vaccine might be, or for how long it might be effective. I don't think the world can afford to go hide under a rock while we wait on a vaccine, and I don't believe that's the healthiest thing for the world, either. We can agree to disagree, but we can't agree that you're going to impose your "stern measures" on everyone else.
BTW, I think it's apparent that the rest of the world doesn't necessarily agree with these stern measures either, witnessed by the protests against lockdowns taking place in many European countries now.
Do you mind sharing what you're basing that on? Gladly.
https://abcnews.go.com/Health/wireStory/swedish-pm-isolates-nation-sees-rising-virus-cases-74034905
https://news.yahoo.com/sweden-registers-record-4-034-131318859.html
When comparing countries, geography and thus climate, plus population dispersion, become important factors.
Sweden raised eyebrows around the world earlier this year when it decided to keep schools, gyms and restaurants open and not issue a national mask mandate, though in past weeks it issued new restrictions such as limiting the number of people who can sit together at a restaurant to eight.
The Nordic country has had 141,764 confirmed coronavirus cases in total, including 4,034 new cases reported Thursday. Just over 6,000 people have died. The tallies surpass those of its neighbouring countries, including Denmark, which has had 50,530 cases and 729 deaths, and Norway, which has counted 21,954 cases and only 282 deaths.
I Luv Emall
11-05-20, 21:17
Thanks for the links, I appreciate that. But I noticed you quoted selectively, and left out some important parts:
"As to the two-week cumulative number of COVID-19 cases per 100,000, Sweden has 293, Denmark 233 and Norway 97.3. The corresponding number of deaths is 0. 7 in Sweden and Denmark, and 0. 1 in Norway. ".
Comparing Sweden and Denmark, the recent numbers don't seem that different, and Sweden doesn't seem worse than others. That is backed up by the numbers reported here as well: https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/. Looking over those numbers, I see many, many countries practicing lockdowns in far worse shape than Sweden.
Now, Sweden itself will be the first to admit it made mistakes in the way it handled the elderly in the early days of the Coronavirus. I think the whole world had a lot to learn about Coronavirus at that time, and no one got it 100% right, and sacrifices were made in one form or another causing loss of life, whether or not that is officially recognized in the stats or not. As your post said, "The Future" let's focus on that and not waste time looking back at past mistakes, except to learn from them. Looking at the more recent numbers, I don't see the basis for your case. And particularly not when you take into account the socioeconomic impacts that you don't care to address. Norway and Denmark happen to be very wealthy countries that can afford to lockdown, but that's not the case for most countries. And I won't get into the impact this has on the world supply chain and those 3rd world countries and lives lost there, which believe me, dwarf the COVID losses (now estimated at 1. 2 M vs the 9 M lives estimated by the WHO to be lost due to the economic impacts of the COVID shutdowns).
I also don't agree with your point about Sweden changing its stance. There's nothing in those links that indicates any drastic change in Sweden's original recommendations, only that they are perhaps tightening up on those recommendations and beginning to enforce those, instead of relying solely on voluntary compliance. So what if their PM got COVID and had to self-isolate? That's common sense. That has no bearing whatsoever on their approach to COVID- it's completely irrelevant and nothing but sensatiionalism, just as the rest of the content was sensationalized. I hardly see this in the light that you presented it- that their model has "crumbled" and they need to implement "stern" measures while they wait on a vaccine. Life is going on for the Swedes, they're not hiding in a cave waiting for a vaccine.
Thanks for the links, I appreciate that. But I noticed you quoted selectively, and left out some important parts:
"As to the two-week cumulative number of COVID-19 cases per 100,000, Sweden has 293, Denmark 233 and Norway 97.3. The corresponding number of deaths is 0. 7 in Sweden and Denmark, and 0. 1 in Norway. ".
Comparing Sweden and Denmark, the recent numbers don't seem that different, and Sweden doesn't seem worse than others. That is backed up by the numbers reported here as well: https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/. Looking over those numbers, I see many, many countries practicing lockdowns in far worse shape than Sweden.If you look at the geography of the three countries, Denmark is by far the outlier. Absent the Kiel Canal, it is basically Germany with a far denser population than its northern neighbors. Both Norway and Sweden have vast areas with little population and share a common border. Yet Norway has 1/3 the infection rate of Sweden. Population density is the global equivalent of social distancing. If two very similar areas have such different infection rates, it is not difficult to determine why.
You are free to disagree. But thanks for the civil discourse.
HobbyMan51
11-06-20, 08:48
If you look at the geography of the three countries, Denmark is by far the outlier. Absent the Kiel Canal, it is basically Germany with a far denser population than its northern neighbors. Both Norway and Sweden have vast areas with little population and share a common border. Yet Norway has 1/3 the infection rate of Sweden. Population density is the global equivalent of social distancing. If two very similar areas have such different infection rates, it is not difficult to determine why.
You are free to disagree. But thanks for the civil discourse.What you seem to advocate is shut down everything until the virus is completely dead, thereby saving many lives in your opinion. What your opinion does not seem to include is the many, many more lives that will be lost due to the shutdown or the decimated economy, lost businesses and jobs that will certainly result from the second shutdown that is inevitable now that Harris has won the presidency. Hell is coming. A vote for Harris / Biden has guaranteed that grim reality. Congratulations. If you voted Harris / Biden you have voted to fuck America. Well done, comrades.
I Luv Emall
11-06-20, 09:40
If you want to get into those kind of comparisons, I would argue that neither Norway nor Denmark has near the amount of industry that Sweden does, so neither make a good comparison on that basis. And Sweden has said all along that their approach is a long-term approach. It makes no sense to be drawing conclusions at this point, especially based on a single snapshot in time. Of course overall numbers of neighboring countries who are in lockdowns will be lower during those times, that's only common sense! The premise all along has been that this is only delaying the spread of the virus (while causing other health and economic damage in the meanwhile). I think this has been borne out by those countries that have locked down and opened back up, and seen the corresponding virus spikes. Do you contend we should have locked down the entire world since March? And again, you do not address or even acknowledge the adverse effects that the lockdowns have on peoples' physical, mental, and economic well being. This has been documented and can be witnessed through increased depression, suicide, and murder rates, and decreases in physical health levels.
I think Sweden's approach of reasonable distancing and practical living is a perferctly rational way to go about handling this pandemic. They are now taking precautions to shelter the elderly and infirmed, and so long as their hospitals are not overwhelmed, there is no need for them to cripple their entire country by shutting down the nation.
If you look at the geography of the three countries, Denmark is by far the outlier. Absent the Kiel Canal, it is basically Germany with a far denser population than its northern neighbors. Both Norway and Sweden have vast areas with little population and share a common border. Yet Norway has 1/3 the infection rate of Sweden. Population density is the global equivalent of social distancing. If two very similar areas have such different infection rates, it is not difficult to determine why.
You are free to disagree. But thanks for the civil discourse.
Can we finally stop all the bullshit about how one party is going to decimate the other in this election. As I write this, we still don't know who the next President will be, and even after the counting has ended, challenges, recounts, and lawsuits will keep thing muddled for the foreseeable future. What we do know is that this country deeply and evenly divided and that if we cannot figure out a way to work together we are screwed. Somehow, somewhere, reason must prevail.
At least the end of the election will allow us to get serious about the Covid virus. Over 100,000 new cases yesterday shows that our current tactics have been unsuccessful. The vaunted Swedish model has crumbled and they have come to the realisation that ignoring the problem will not make it go away. Unfortunately stern measures are necessary on a temporary basis until a vaccine is developed and distributed.
In the words of Pogo, "We have met the enemy and he is us. ".
FWIW, Biden will be our next POTUS, after he wins Georgia, Arizona, Nevada and Pennsylvania. For all intents and purposes, the Presidential race is over, it’s been one hairy ass roller coaster ride for FOUR FUCKING YEARS, we have now finally pulled into the station and I want to get the hell off. In my estimation Biden wins 306 Electoral College votes to Trump’s 232.
Unfortunately, the political madness continues in Georgia into the new year with both our Senate races heading into a runoff. Georgia will now be overwhelmed with negative ads through the upcoming holiday season in the midst of a pandemic rapidly spiraling out of control.
FWIW, Biden will be our next POTUS, after he wins Georgia, Arizona, Nevada and Pennsylvania. For all intents and purposes, the Presidential race is over, its been one hairy ass roller coaster ride for FOUR FUCKING YEARS, we have now finally pulled into the station and I want to get the hell off. In my estimation Biden wins 306 Electoral College votes to Trumps 232.
Unfortunately, the political madness continues in Georgia into the new year with both our Senate races heading into a runoff. Georgia will now be overwhelmed with negative ads through the upcoming holiday season in the midst of a pandemic rapidly spiraling out of control.There will be no healing and I would guess that a full 60 percent people who work for living and pay taxes voted Republican. The narrative that Republican voters are stupid and uneducated is a joke when you look at the cities of welfare bums and babymamas that all vote democrat so they can keep getting their free shit and playing the victim. An unintended consequence of this election is that for many years, half the country will never believe a fucking word the mainstream media has to say about anything. Trump was not my favorite guy but I know what bullshit looks like when you have 99.5% negative coverage. The true hatred will continue and that senile asshole Biden isn't bring anyone together for his build back better economic package (seriously a retarded 3 year old could have done better with a slogan). The media will say we are all healed, cancel culture will continue, and any problems will be blamed on Trump. The silver lining is the poor slob democrats will still be poor slob democrats and when the economy tanks, I still have a job as I have my own business which is doing fine. Will deeply enjoy watching the Baristas, Bartenders, Drug addicted waiters / waitresses eat catfood after the lockdowns completely kill the businesses where they work that are owned by Republicans that tried to save the economy. As to your point about negative ads, California faggots and NY assholes will dump $500,000,000.00 into the Senate race and the fat-ass suburban housewives will have gotten Trump out and hopefully will have come to their senses in places like Cobb and elsewhere and will vote Conservative again. Once the Senate is held, no Court packing, no new States, and the crazy liberal bullshit won't see the light of day. No 4 B stimulus to bail out the pension funds for the California, Chicago, and New York and Nancy just lost her 2 B package as she overplayed the fuck out of her hand. As to the violence and rioting that will continue in places that voted heavily democrat, you reap what your sow fuckers.For the smarmy douche who will be reading this in his third language, that means you break it, you buy it fucktard.
This post will be at the top of this thread until November 10th (one week after the election) as a reminder that threats are not allowed on this thread and that INCLUDES two guys dicing it up and one of them making a friendly suggestion to get together over a beer because you're not fooling anybody.
I honestly don't care how long these arguments go on and I honestly appreciate you guys limiting the political stuff to the fight thread however; no violence, no threats of violence.
Thanks,
A2Kick their asses off! How does any of it help anyone, liberal or conservative, find pussy? There are a zillion web sites for arguing political bullshit!
Lick there pussy till they cum LOL.
If you want to get into those kind of comparisons, I would argue that neither Norway nor Denmark has near the amount of industry that Sweden does, so neither make a good comparison on that basis. And Sweden has said all along that their approach is a long-term approach. It makes no sense to be drawing conclusions at this point, especially based on a single snapshot in time. Of course overall numbers of neighboring countries who are in lockdowns will be lower during those times, that's only common sense! The premise all along has been that this is only delaying the spread of the virus (while causing other health and economic damage in the meanwhile). I think this has been borne out by those countries that have locked down and opened back up, and seen the corresponding virus spikes. Do you contend we should have locked down the entire world since March? And again, you do not address or even acknowledge the adverse effects that the lockdowns have on peoples' physical, mental, and economic well being. This has been documented and can be witnessed through increased depression, suicide, and murder rates, and decreases in physical health levels.
I think Sweden's approach of reasonable distancing and practical living is a perferctly rational way to go about handling this pandemic. They are now taking precautions to shelter the elderly and infirmed, and so long as their hospitals are not overwhelmed, there is no need for them to cripple their entire country by shutting down the nation.The one and only reason countries around the world have gone into full lock down mode is to prevent their health care facilities from being overwhelmed. People, this is not complicated, this administration by letting the coronavirus surge through the U.S. population with minimal testing, minimal social distancing and encouraging minimal face mask wearing has allowed the U.S to become the world's largest experiment in herd immunity. We shall see how this experiment in herd immunity works out.
Kick their asses off! How does any of it help anyone, liberal or conservative, find pussy? There are a zillion web sites for arguing political bullshit!Sir, you are free to leave at any time. May the pussy be with you!
Per the moderator........
The whole idea of threads like this is to say all the shit that you want to say (check below for stuff that is still off limits) but we won't let you because we want to keep the convo in the review threads on pussy.
There will be no healing and I would guess that a full 60 percent people who work for living and pay taxes voted Republican. The narrative that Republican voters are stupid and uneducated is a joke when you look at the cities of welfare bums and babymamas that all vote democrat so they can keep getting their free shit and playing the victim. An unintended consequence of this election is that for many years, half the country will never believe a fucking word the mainstream media has to say about anything. Trump was not my favorite guy but I know what bullshit looks like when you have 99.5% negative coverage. The true hatred will continue and that senile asshole Biden isn't bring anyone together for his build back better economic package (seriously a retarded 3 year old could have done better with a slogan). The media will say we are all healed, cancel culture will continue, and any problems will be blamed on Trump. The silver lining is the poor slob democrats will still be poor slob democrats and when the economy tanks, I still have a job as I have my own business which is doing fine. Will deeply enjoy watching the Baristas, Bartenders, Drug addicted waiters / waitresses eat catfood after the lockdowns completely kill the businesses where they work that are owned by Republicans that tried to save the economy. As to your point about negative ads, California faggots and NY assholes will dump $500,000,000.00 into the Senate race and the fat-ass suburban housewives will have gotten Trump out and hopefully will have come to their senses in places like Cobb and elsewhere and will vote Conservative again. Once the Senate is held, no Court packing, no new States, and the crazy liberal bullshit won't see the light of day. No 4 B stimulus to bail out the pension funds for the California, Chicago, and New York and Nancy just lost her 2 B package as she overplayed the fuck out of her hand. As to the violence and rioting that will continue in places that voted heavily democrat, you reap what your sow fuckers.For the smarmy douche who will be reading this in his third language, that means you break it, you buy it fucktard.This should be a sticky. Well said.
The one and only reason countries around the world have gone into full lock down mode is to prevent their health care facilities from being overwhelmed. People, this is not complicated, this administration by letting the coronavirus surge through the U.S. population with minimal testing, minimal social distancing and encouraging minimal face mask wearing has allowed the U.S to become the world's largest experiment in herd immunity. We shall see how this experiment in herd immunity works out.Correct me if I am wrong Sgt Sanctimonious but aren't the governors of each state not the gate keepers of who stays and who goes and the implementation of what state wide measures are put in place? Check out California and NY numbers while you are at it and then explain to me how this administration is to blame. Is it because we did not have enough ventilators to do long term lung damage to the lucky survivors or is it because the prior administration left our PPP stockrooms filled with empty air, dust bunnies, and rat bait stations? As to our testing, we have done more testing than almost any country in the world. Lastly, perhaps the reason we weren't prepared for the virus before it exploded may have something to do with the fact that the the White House, congress, and senate were embroiled in the biggest bullshit impeachment effort in all of history and the media was busy reporting on hard hitting journalism such as Trump's two scoops of ice cream. Only a myopic idiot would try and blame this all on the White House as there is plenty of responsibility to go around. Your party saw this as an election issue and put the fear of god, well ok they don't believe in god but you get my point, into their sheep and I feel blessed to be alive after narrowly avoiding the. 001% fatality rate. Make sure to raise your mask in between bites and stay safe.
President Trump needs to declare Martial Law. And when the Marxists riot he immediately should invoke the Insurrection Act.
Correct me if I am wrong Sgt Sanctimonious but aren't the governors of each state not the gate keepers of who stays and who goes and the implementation of what state wide measures are put in place? Check out California and NY numbers while you are at it and then explain to me how this administration is to blame. Is it because we did not have enough ventilators to do long term lung damage to the lucky survivors or is it because the prior administration left our PPP stockrooms filled with empty air, dust bunnies, and rat bait stations? As to our testing, we have done more testing than almost any country in the world. Lastly, perhaps the reason we weren't prepared for the virus before it exploded may have something to do with the fact that the the White House, congress, and senate were embroiled in the biggest bullshit impeachment effort in all of history and the media was busy reporting on hard hitting journalism such as Trump's two scoops of ice cream. Only a myopic idiot would try and blame this all on the White House as there is plenty of responsibility to go around. Your party saw this as an election issue and put the fear of god, well ok they don't believe in god but you get my point, into their sheep and I feel blessed to be alive after narrowly avoiding the. 001% fatality rate. Make sure to raise your mask in between bites and stay safe.FYI, I voted for Trump in 2016, however this is my blunt assessment of Trump, He's a petty, petulant coward who should be locked in jail for the rest of his days. He's a disgusting human being, with not a single redeeming quality as a man, husband, father, businessman or politician. He cares nothing for anyone but himself and has no empathy, sympathy or morals. Satan himself looks upon Trump in disgust. Just today we passed a daily record of 120,000+ new cases of COVID. Hundreds of millions of us are wearing masks and or hunkered down in our communities and homes trying to make a living in this damaged economy that Trump wrecked through his negligence and stupidity, we are trying to protect the health of our loved ones and families, trying to stay safe ourselves and protect others, and this massive asshole has to go and get some self-gratification holding huge campaign rallies and possibly infect who knows how many other people in the process. He's a criminal sociopath and a major fucking asshole. There's no other way to describe it.
FYI, I voted for Trump in 2016, however this is my blunt assessment of Trump, He's a petty, petulant coward who should be locked in jail for the rest of his days. He's a disgusting human being, with not a single redeeming quality as a man, husband, father, businessman or politician. He cares nothing for anyone but himself and has no empathy, sympathy or morals. Satan himself looks upon Trump in disgust. Just today we passed a daily record of 120,000+ new cases of COVID. Hundreds of millions of us are wearing masks and or hunkered down in our communities and homes trying to make a living in this damaged economy that Trump wrecked through his negligence and stupidity, we are trying to protect the health of our loved ones and families, trying to stay safe ourselves and protect others, and this massive asshole has to go and get some self-gratification holding huge campaign rallies and possibly infect who knows how many other people in the process. He's a criminal sociopath and a major fucking asshole. There's no other way to describe it.With all due respect, he does put on a hell of show Mr. Scaramucci.
FYI, I voted for Trump in 2016, however this is my blunt assessment of Trump, He's a petty, petulant coward who should be locked in jail for the rest of his days. He's a disgusting human being, with not a single redeeming quality as a man, husband, father, businessman or politician. He cares nothing for anyone but himself and has no empathy, sympathy or morals. Satan himself looks upon Trump in disgust. Just today we passed a daily record of 120,000+ new cases of COVID. Hundreds of millions of us are wearing masks and or hunkered down in our communities and homes trying to make a living in this damaged economy that Trump wrecked through his negligence and stupidity, we are trying to protect the health of our loved ones and families, trying to stay safe ourselves and protect others, and this massive asshole has to go and get some self-gratification holding huge campaign rallies and possibly infect who knows how many other people in the process. He's a criminal sociopath and a major fucking asshole. There's no other way to describe it.So then, why did you vote for Trump again?
Stay tuned for the first episode of the Skippy Biden and ShamWow Harris dog and pony show. Like Biden won't shit himself if he had to handle a real national emergency? Wonder if ShamWow is in charge of getting Biden's adult diapers rhino lined.
As for Covid, Skippy can't do much. Most Americans are too stubborn to wear masks and virtually no business is actively enforcing it.
trying to make a living in this damaged economy that Trump wrecked through his negligence and stupidity.There were ZERO MAGA hat wearing assholes insisting that the economy gets destroyed, that was totally and completely a product of the left. You can spew as much bullshit as you want about it but blaming Trump for the covid economy is as big a lie as him saying there is fraud in the election.
The left DEMANDED that the worlds economy get destroyed and now is trying to avoid that responsibility, it's fucking disgusting.
A2.
LilJohnBoy
11-07-20, 11:35
Can we finally stop all the bullshit about how one party is going to decimate the other in this election. As I write this, we still don't know who the next President will be, and even after the counting has ended, challenges, recounts, and lawsuits will keep thing muddled for the foreseeable future. What we do know is that this country deeply and evenly divided and that if we cannot figure out a way to work together we are screwed. Somehow, somewhere, reason must prevail.
At least the end of the election will allow us to get serious about the Covid virus. Over 100,000 new cases yesterday shows that our current tactics have been unsuccessful. The vaunted Swedish model has crumbled and they have come to the realisation that ignoring the problem will not make it go away. Unfortunately stern measures are necessary on a temporary basis until a vaccine is developed and distributed.
In the words of Pogo, "We have met the enemy and he is us. ".Go to the cdc site and observe the average daily death rate. Shouldn't our year to date tally be 200,000+ higher than last year? Also please note that covid must be the new cure for the flu. Flu deaths are almost 0.
So then, why did you vote for Trump again?
Stay tuned for the first episode of the Skippy Biden and ShamWow Harris dog and pony show. Like Biden won't shit himself if he had to handle a real national emergency? Wonder if ShamWow is in charge of getting Biden's adult diapers rhino lined.
As for Covid, Skippy can't do much. Most Americans are too stubborn to wear masks and virtually no business is actively enforcing it.Did you read what I posted? Me vote for this shit-stain again. Hell NO! Trump fucked himself by botching the COVID-19 response. Americans defer to the President in times of crisis. All Trump needed to do was say a few encouraging words and follow public health recommendations. He should have let public health officials do all the actual work and have them in front of the camera most of the time. Had he done those things, he'd probably have won his re-election in a landslide.
There were ZERO MAGA hat wearing assholes insisting that the economy gets destroyed, that was totally and completely a product of the left. You can spew as much bullshit as you want about it but blaming Trump for the covid economy is as big a lie as him saying there is fraud in the election.
The left DEMANDED that the worlds economy get destroyed and now is trying to avoid that responsibility, it's fucking disgusting.
A2.Well, the data suggests the opposite, countries that took DRAMATIC steps to protect their population's health in the pandemic have generally also protected their economy too.
The charts show that countries which suffered the most severe economic downturns like Peru, Spain and the UK are generally among the countries with the highest COVID-19 death rate.
And the reverse is also true: countries where the economic impact has been modest like Taiwan, South Korea, and Lithuania have also managed to keep the death rate low.
Notice too that countries with similar falls in GDP have witnessed very different death rates. For instance, compare the US and Sweden with Denmark and Poland. All four countries saw economic contractions of around 8 to 9 percent, but the death rates are markedly different: the US and Sweden have recorded 5 to 10 times more deaths per million.
https://ourworldindata.org/covid-health-economy
You should write the sequel to Freakonmics and you can cite all your statistics and ignore the underlying root causes and shared responsibility. You still have failed to address the democrat responses in NY, IL, and CA, all of which have some of the highest rates in the country (even with draconian lockdowns) or the fact that this virus is NOT that deadly. Permanently killing the jobs of 10's of millions of people is straight up lunacy. Let me throw some truth on you while I'm at it Libtard. We are going to 200 K cases a day between Thanksgiving and Christmas. So hunker down with your loved ones, family, and 20 favorite CAMP girls (who have probably all been exposed and never knew it) and protect them. Hobbyman and I have some free time this weekend and we will build you a giant fucking cross to carry around on your back as you carry the weight of the world on your shoulders so everyone will KNOW. Take solace in the face that on Jan 20, 2021 we will all be saved when Dementia Joe takes office and has more Lids than a Tupperware party as he grinds out the 3 hour work days. We're fucked.
Sgt Lurker
11-07-20, 14:43
Well, the data suggests the opposite, countries that took DRAMATIC steps to protect their population's health in the pandemic have generally also protected their economy too. The charts show that countries which suffered the most severe economic downturns like Peru, Spain and the UK are generally among the countries with the highest COVID-19 death rate. And the reverse is also true: countries where the economic impact has been modest like Taiwan, South Korea, and Lithuania have also managed to keep the death rate low. Notice too that countries with similar falls in GDP have witnessed very different death rates. For instance, compare the US and Sweden with Denmark and Poland. All four countries saw economic contractions of around 8 to 9 percent, but the death rates are markedly different: the US and Sweden have recorded 5 to 10 times more deaths per million. https://ourworldindata.org/covid-health-economyI always get a big laugh when people want to compare the large, diverse Unites States to countries that will either fit within the 5 bureaus of NY or inside the entire state of NY. The US territory covers a good 80+ % of all of Europe. Notice the select charts chosen do not include Chine or Russia for two reasons. They may be worse but most likely, we will never get a straight answer out of them.
Just because something works on a small scale does not mean it can work on a much larger scale.
I Luv Emall
11-07-20, 15:39
The one and only reason countries around the world have gone into full lock down mode is to prevent their health care facilities from being overwhelmed. People, this is not complicated, this administration by letting the coronavirus surge through the U.S. population with minimal testing, minimal social distancing and encouraging minimal face mask wearing has allowed the U.S to become the world's largest experiment in herd immunity. We shall see how this experiment in herd immunity works out.I think you're sadly misinformed, even if you do speak from a position of absolute enlightenment. Full lock down mode has certainly not been about preventing overwhelming the hospitals in this country. Witness the way Georgia was so roundly criticized by the rest of the country, despite the fact that its hospitals were never overwhelmed. Witness the way CA and Washington state prohibited people from even going outdoors (even giving tickets for going fishing of all things!), even though their hospitals were never overwhelmed. Witness the way Sweden has been so roundly criticized when their hospitals were never in jeopardy of being overwhelmed.
Also, this was never about "herd immunity", either here or in Sweden. You should educate yourself a little better before you proclaim yourself as an expert and pretend to have all the answers.
President Trump needs to declare Martial Law. And when the Marxists riot he immediately should invoke the Insurrection Act.Clever disguise Oldti but the syntax gave you away.
I always get a big laugh when people want to compare the large, diverse Unites States to countries that will either fit within the 5 bureaus of NY or inside the entire state of NY. The US territory covers a good 80+ % of all of Europe. Notice the select charts chosen do not include Chine or Russia for two reasons. They may be worse but most likely, we will never get a straight answer out of them.
Just because something works on a small scale does not mean it can work on a much larger scale.I agree. There are two reasons that South Korea has been so successful:
1. Their about the size of Indiana, give or take.
2. Koreans are naturally nosy as shit, so contact tracing becomes easy when they can dedicate small armies of healthcare workers to track people down and test them. Can you imagine trying to do contact tracing on everyone in the US? Wonder how many millions of healthcare workers that would take and if most Americans would even respond positively to having their personal lives scrutinized.
Parrot Scope
11-07-20, 20:18
Yes it's all over now.
Over for this country.
Over for people of my minority.
Over for the growth of this nation.
The crooked politician with dirt and blood on his hands is now running the country. Coupled with a woman of questionable identity and morals.
I now expect this country to be run into the ground by illegal aliens. This country is now WIDE OPEN for anyone to come in and take advantage of the US welfare system. Illegal immigrants who DO NOT pay taxes will take advantage of this country and all its opportunities. While hard-working tax payers fit the bill.
Only one I hate more than Biden, is SCAMala Harris. I am more concerned about Biden kicking the bucket, and allowing her to run this country.
Hopefully I am still here 4 years from now, but I don't believe things will Improve.
In 4 years this country will be run into the ground, and there will be another major war on our hands.
There is nothing left for me to say. Don't bother replying, because I have left this thread for good.
Enjoy your democratic victory, and the demise of this country. Good day or good riddance.
Take solace in the face that on Jan 20, 2021 we will all be saved when Dementia Joe takes office and has more Lids than a Tupperware party as he grinds out the 3 hour work days. We're fucked.My sentiments exactly. And when he croaks in office, we'll have ShamWow the fake black woman running the country? Absurd.
I always get a big laugh when people want to compare the large, diverse Unites States to countries that will either fit within the 5 bureaus of NY or inside the entire state of NY. The US territory covers a good 80+ % of all of Europe. Notice the select charts chosen do not include Chine or Russia for two reasons. They may be worse but most likely, we will never get a straight answer out of them.
Just because something works on a small scale does not mean it can work on a much larger scale.China with ONE BILLION more people than the US in only 3% more land so 4 times the population density as well whcih have been exposed to Covid longer than any group in the world really, really, really, no seriously REALLY has only had 85 K cases and 4500 dead people. No seriously, really, the US is the worst in the world.
Thank god this all ends this week. Maybe another 400,000,000 lives in the third world don't need to be destroyed.
A2.
China with ONE BILLION more people than the US in only 3% more land so 4 times the population density as well whcih have been exposed to Covid longer than any group in the world really, really, really, no seriously REALLY has only had 85 K cases and 4500 dead people. No seriously, really, the US is the worst in the world.
Thank god this all ends this week. Maybe another 400,000,000 lives in the third world don't need to be destroyed.
A2. Depends how you see it Not really the worst just the first place in everything 😂.
I always get a big laugh when people want to compare the large, diverse Unites States to countries that will either fit within the 5 bureaus of NY or inside the entire state of NY. The US territory covers a good 80+ % of all of Europe. Notice the select charts chosen do not include Chine or Russia for two reasons. They may be worse but most likely, we will never get a straight answer out of them.
Just because something works on a small scale does not mean it can work on a much larger scale.See the endnotes, China's economy fared even better than the countries listed because they took DRAMATIC steps to control the pandemic. Note: China has a population of 1.3 Billion, nearly 4 times that of the U.S.
Data for China is not shown given the earlier timing of its economic downturn. The country saw positive growth of 3.2% in Q2 preceded by a fall of 6.8% in Q1.
Take solace in the face that on Jan 20, 2021 we will all be saved when Dementia Joe takes office and has more Lids than a Tupperware party as he grinds out the 3 hour work days. We're fucked.I've disagreed with a lot of presidents in the past both Left and Right. But WTF, Trump was a different monster altogether. His rhetoric trickled down, played to, and incited the worst people in the country and turned us into the place we're in now. You may not agree with Biden on policy. But he's a good man. I believe he will help to heal this country.
Da Slickster
11-08-20, 09:26
My sentiments exactly. And when he croaks in office, we'll have ShamWow the fake black woman running the country? Absurd.Why is she a "fake" black woman?
Because China always tells the truth, libwad turdhead.
China with ONE BILLION more people than the US in only 3% more land so 4 times the population density as well whcih have been exposed to Covid longer than any group in the world really, really, really, no seriously REALLY has only had 85 K cases and 4500 dead people. No seriously, really, the US is the worst in the world.
Thank god this all ends this week. Maybe another 400,000,000 lives in the third world don't need to be destroyed.
A2.
They took DRAMATIC steps to control the pandemic. Indeed they did, they threw the doctor who discovered it in jail, then the posted a bunch of news stories about "locking down Wuhan" to plant that idea in the minds of the hysterical while their state controlled media has been posting fictitious numbers to show how well it worked except ever since life has continued as normal there while the west destroyed their economy. It was brilliant, they did a decades worth of damage with a few stories and you helped them do it.
Well done you.
A2.
But he's a good man. I believe he will help to heal this country.I was never a hardcore Trump guy and my vote was largely a repudiation of media bias and PC culture. There is no healing this country as at least half this country hates the media and the left with a passion. Even Obama took forever to reluctantly give his support to good guy Joe who was, for all practical purposes, the Boobie Prize candidate after the dust settled. Trump will leave office and animals like Letitia James will doggedly pursue bogus prosecutions to further inflame and divide this country. The media will gleefully report how that every policy that Biden rubber stamps is worthy of a Nobel Peace prize and the squad and other far left idiots will gain more legitimacy. The left has seriously taken a page of out Hitler's playbook when it comes to the media and how to deal with dissent. The liberal elite aristocracy has never been in a stronger position in this country and our jobs will continue a mass exodus overseas and we will produce a generation of Amazon delivery people and warehouse workers. As far as the "worst people" in this country goes, I have yet to see them attacking elderly, burning down buildings, smashing windows, looting, attacking police officers, or setting vehicles on fire. The shopping district in Buckhead is not completely boarded up right now because of these "worst people". Why haven't these MAGA people burned anything down yet? Could it be because they are not animals and thugs?
Why is she a "fake" black woman?I don't know about "fake" black woman but I can tell you with 100% certainty that she is devoid of any moral fortitude and has radically changes her policy positions based upon how the wind is blowing for prevailing sentiment. Zero integrity and character to lead but she did look pretty dope in those throw back Allstars and her Timberlands were off the hook when she visited the wild fire sites. I give it 2 years before she is schleping around the nuclear football in her limited edition Hermes Tote.
Indeed they did, they threw the doctor who discovered it in jail, then the posted a bunch of news stories about "locking down Wuhan" to plant that idea in the minds of the hysterical while their state controlled media has been posting fictitious numbers to show how well it worked except ever since life has continued as normal there while the west destroyed their economy. It was brilliant, they did a decades worth of damage with a few stories and you helped them do it.
Well done you.
A2.Please give me a break, you accuse Chinese officials of initially doing the very same thing Trump was and is still trying to do, which is to DOWNPLAY the virus at every turn. Again, it does not change the fact that China and South Korea have been able to successfully strike a balance between GROWING their respective economies and PROTECTING public health. The U.S. continues to fail miserably in doing both.
FYI, More than 1,700 U.S. healthcare workers have died from COVID-19. All these deaths were avoidable and unnecessary due to the this administrations inaction/ineptness initially. Many nurses and health care workers were forced to work without personal protective equipment(PPE) to do their job safely. I do think it is immoral and unconscionable that they lost their lives.
Please give me a break, you accuse Chinese officials of initially doing the very same thing Trump was and is still trying to do, which is to DOWNPLAY the virus at every turn. Again, it does not change the fact that China and South Korea have been able to successfully strike a balance between GROWING their respective economies and PROTECTING public public health. The U.S. continues to fail miserably in doing both.Seriously? Not telling us about the virus for months, not telling us it could be passed person to person, and shutting down intrastate airline travel in China while international flights spread the gift that keeps on giving to the rest of the world are the same as Trump's response? We were unable to fully concentrate on the virus because the media was covering existential threats, constitutional crises, and systemic racism and after 4 years of saying everything Trump did was wrong, half this country tuned out. Oh and that impeachment thing. In theory, the ultra-long lockdowns in places like Michigan and elsewhere, with mandatory mask requirements and social distancing should have stamped out the virus, yet these measures failed. There are many other factors in play and I don't think MAGA people living in rural America not wearing masks played any significant part in the spread as the number in those areas were very low until recently. When will the left ever accept a single shred of responsibility for their part in this?
HobbyMan51
11-08-20, 14:21
Please give me a break, you accuse Chinese officials of initially doing the very same thing Trump was and is still trying to do, which is to DOWNPLAY the virus at every turn. Again, it does not change the fact that China and South Korea have been able to successfully strike a balance between GROWING their respective economies and PROTECTING public health. The U.S. continues to fail miserably in doing both.
FYI, More than 1,700 U.S. healthcare workers have died from COVID-19. All these deaths were avoidable and unnecessary due to the this administrations inaction/ineptness initially. Many nurses and health care workers were forced to work without personal protective equipment(PPE) to do their job safely. I do think it is immoral and unconscionable that they lost their lives.For anyone attempting to achieve any shred of rational discourse with George here, you can forget about it and stop wasting your time. He will never listen to anyone or anything. He is a pathological hater. He is defined by his hatred but he is also defined by his simplicity of thought which is to say, everything, EVERYTHING, is Trump's fault, end of discussion. With his vote and his hatred George has helped usher in what will surely be the darkest time in American history. If it was just his moronic ass that was the recipient of the hell that is coming I would not give one damn at all but it is the ruin of many that are affected by intentional stupidity such as his. Enjoy the carnage, George. You worked hard for it. May its impact include you, especially you, in its bitter tsunami. It's coming, George. You will discover what reaping what you sow really means.
I Luv Emall
11-08-20, 14:28
Again, it does not change the fact that China and South Korea have been able to successfully strike a balance between GROWING their respective economies and PROTECTING public health. Oh, so this is a fact now, is it? So, China has proven itself to you to be so credible that you choose to take their stats at face value, and totally ignore the whole point of the post you were responding to, and instead say their numbers are "fact". Interesting, and makes you wonder whose side you're really on, Sarge. I think you've proven your bias over and over to the point that you have little credibiity. We certainly haven't gotten it 100% correct here, but neither has anyone else, and your armchair Monday morning quarterbacking is more often misguided than not.
Why is she a "fake" black woman?She's half Jamaican, not African.
Oh, so this is a fact now, is it?Yep, you all can stick your heads in the sand all you want, the facts are the facts. Latest figures from the John Hopkins COVID dashboard show the numbers of new COVID cases reported yesterday in mainland China was 31 vs 127,000 new COVID cases in the USA. We now have the worlds highest daily numbers of new COVID cases.
For anyone attempting to achieve any shred of rational discourse with George here, you can forget about it and stop wasting your time. He will never listen to anyone or anything. He is a pathological hater. He is defined by his hatred but he is also defined by his simplicity of thought which is to say, everything, EVERYTHING, is Trump's fault, end of discussion. With his vote and his hatred George has helped usher in what will surely be the darkest time in American history. If it was just his moronic ass that was the recipient of the hell that is coming I would not give one damn at all but it is the ruin of many that are affected by intentional stupidity such as his. Enjoy the carnage, George. You worked hard for it. May its impact include you, especially you, in its bitter tsunami. It's coming, George. You will discover what reaping what you sow really means.Yea right! This is your COVID President, no war room for COVID, but a war room/voter fraud line to fight his election loss. Really beyond bizarre and shows us his priorities. FWIW, Biden has provided more leadership in 24 hours than Trump has in 4 years.
I Luv Emall
11-08-20, 15:42
Yep, you all can stick your heads in the sand all you want, the facts are the facts. Latest figures from the John Hopkins COVID dashboard show the numbers of new COVID cases reported yesterday in mainland China was 31 vs 127,000 new COVID cases in the USA. We now have the worlds highest daily numbers of new COVID cases.We're all aware of what China reports, but you're about the only I know foolish enough to believe those numbers. I'm not convinced even you actually believe those numbers (even the mainstream media is dismissive of China's numbers), but instead are just using them to try to make your case, once again making your bias apparent and flushing your credibility down the toilet.
We're all aware of what China reports, but you're about the only I know foolish enough to believe those numbers. I'm not convinced even you actually believe those numbers (even the mainstream media is dismissive of China's numbers), but instead are just using them to try to make your case, once again making your bias apparent and flushing your credibility down the toilet.FYI, the John Hopkins COVID dashboard collates the data from the World Health Organization (WHO). Only an inept, clueless, President named Trump would withdraw from the WHO in the middle of a Global health pandemic.
Da Slickster
11-08-20, 16:55
She's half Jamaican, not African.Oh, didn't know Jamaicans weren't considered black as opposed to their African counterparts...
LostBear40
11-08-20, 17:13
FYI, the John Hopkins COVID dashboard collates the data from the World Health Organization (WHO). Only an inept, clueless, President named Trump would withdraw from the WHO in the middle of a Global health pandemic.Wow,
I have been gone for a couple years and just logged back on.
1. Wow, even pussy loving mongers have to be divided about politics?
2. Does anyone really believe any politician (or outsider like Trump) gives a tinkers damn about any of us mongers?
3. can't we all just get along and smash pussy (and ass)?
4. Oh, I saw the latest Borat movie. Borat is responsible for the veerus. No, really, its on tv so it must be true!
Come on guys. Has no one else listened to the counter-intelligence training 101 while sitting thru basic military training? Or was I special? Yeah, I am special. NO. ITS ALL DIS-INFORMATION DESIGNED TO DIVIDE US. GOOD JOB VLADIMIR.
Please stop and at least consider the potential of a nation-state efforts to divide and conquer from within that which they cannot conquer militarily or economically.
And never forget, people in power only care about you and me on election day. PERIOD.
Still Lost,
Lostbear.
Wow,
I have been gone for a couple years and just logged back on.
1. Wow, even pussy loving mongers have to be divided about politics?
Lostbear.It's ok little buddy, we're really not that divided. It's just one jackass ideologue Trump hating CNN parroting low grade moron with a shitload of free time.
Oh, didn't know Jamaicans weren't considered black as opposed to their African counterparts...It's a bit complicated, you have White Jamaicans, Chinese Jamaicans, East Indian Jamaicans and Black Jamaicans. They are all devoutly proud of their Jamaican heritage and speak the local lingo called Patois. However Black Jamaicans have a general fondness for their African roots but their Jamaican heritage takes precedence. Just my 2 pesos.
Da Slickster
11-08-20, 19:34
However Black Jamaicans have a general fondness for their African roots but their Jamaican heritage takes precedence. Just my 2 pesos.Don't Black Americans have a general fondness for their African roots but their American heritage takes precedence as well?
Don't Black Americans have a general fondness for their African roots but their American heritage takes precedence as well?Yes, but I'm ONLY referring to Black Jamaicans/West Indians in this case. You have to travel to the Caribbean Islands to understand this.
It's a bit complicated, you have White Jamaicans, Chinese Jamaicans, East Indian Jamaicans and Black Jamaicans. They are all devoutly proud of their Jamaican heritage and speak the local lingo called Patois. However Black Jamaicans have a general fondness for their African roots but their Jamaican heritage takes precedence. Just my 2 pesos.Yes, and you have boiled shrimp, jumbo shrimp, fried shrimp, cajun shrimp, butterfly shrimp, kung pao shrimp, garlic shrimp, stuffed shrimp.
Da Slickster
11-08-20, 20:01
Yes, but I'm ONLY referring to Black Jamaicans/West Indians in this case. You have to travel to the Caribbean Islands to understand this.Okay, just confused.
You said Black Jamaicans / West identify with themselves as Jamaicans. I have heard VP elect refer to herself as Black but Night said she was a fake.
Reminds me of an old Carlos Mencia joke about African Americans, Puerto Ricans, and Black Jamaicans in one car being pulled over by the police.
It's a bit complicated, you have White Jamaicans, Chinese Jamaicans, East Indian Jamaicans and Black Jamaicans. They are all devoutly proud of their Jamaican heritage and speak the local lingo called Patois. However Black Jamaicans have a general fondness for their African roots but their Jamaican heritage takes precedence. Just my 2 pesos.Partially what you said but most Americans of African descent that I know would tell ShamWow to suck wind. She's a "Yessir bish," just like like Biden was to Obama. Both suck up to whatever fuels their agenda and neither have a clue how to run a country. Given: Biden wants to assemble a task force to figure out what the fuck to do about Covid? One would think that, after 48 years (Senate), he would have a plan about something other than how to hire someone to wipe his ass. He's a boorish politician with zero balls and zero clue about anything. Skippy and ShamWow now presiding!
She's half Jamaican, not African.She is a mix of ***** and leech. Why do you think Joe picked her. He's going to mess up everything calling world leaders dog faced pony soldiers and she will be waiting to suck the anger right out of them.
It's ok little buddy, we're really not that divided. It's just one jackass ideologue Trump hating CNN parroting low grade moron with a shitload of free time.
Yes, and you have boiled shrimp, jumbo shrimp, fried shrimp, cajun shrimp, butterfly shrimp, kung pao shrimp, garlic shrimp, stuffed shrimp.That’s really rich coming from a eunuch. Please Go finish drinking your glass of pee.
Thats really rich coming from a eunuch. Please Go finish drinking your glass of pee.Roger that, you pretentious prolapsed rectum. "You have to go there to understand this. " Is that there Caribbean Island near Lake Lanier Island by any chance? I'm fixing to be up there this weekend for the Biden Rowboat Parade and will swing by so I can be edified.
Roger that, you pretentious prolapsed rectum. I'm not a proctologist but I certainly know an asshole when I see one.
Partially what you said but most Americans of African descent that I know would tell ShamWow to suck wind. She's a "Yessir bish," just like like Biden was to Obama. Both suck up to whatever fuels their agenda and neither have a clue how to run a country. Given: Biden wants to assemble a task force to figure out what the fuck to do about Covid? One would think that, after 48 years (Senate), he would have a plan about something other than how to hire someone to wipe his ass. He's a boorish politician with zero balls and zero clue about anything. Skippy and ShamWow now presiding!So, what would you say about VP Pence? Pence has been the ultimate "Yesir bish" to Trump for 4 years. President elect Biden, in the past 24 hours, has shown us how he intends to beat the COVID pandemic compared to Trump who has generally ignored it over the past few months. Trump has said, "the virus is a hoax", "it's nothing more than the regular flu. "; "it will disappear soon"; the pandemic is getting under control.; etc, etc.
Oh. The irony! "What a bunch of hypocrites!
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=mpOnt1cByT4
This post will be at the top of this thread until November 10th (one week after the election) as a reminder that threats are not allowed on this thread and that INCLUDES two guys dicing it up and one of them making a friendly suggestion to get together over a beer because you're not fooling anybody.
I honestly don't care how long these arguments go on and I honestly appreciate you guys limiting the political stuff to the fight thread however; no violence, no threats of violence.
Thanks,
A2
Roger that, you pretentious prolapsed rectum. "You have to go there to understand this. " Is that there Caribbean Island near Lake Lanier Island by any chance? I'm fixing to be up there this weekend for the Biden Rowboat Parade and will swing by so I can be edified.Biden Rowboat Parade at Lanier? LOL.
Biden Rowboat Parade at Lanier? LOL.Actually he's more likely to see the attached image at Lake Lanier.
On a side note: The United States surging coronavirus outbreak is on pace to hit nearly 1 million new cases a week by the end of the year a scenario that could overwhelm health systems across much of the country.
As we speak, there are refrigerated trucks being rolled out in El Paso, Texas to cope with the overflow of dead bodies from morgues. Trump told us, the virus will just disappear on Nov 4th.
https://www.politico.com/amp/news/2020/11/09/coronavirus-overwhelm-us-before-biden-435235
https://www.usnews.com/news/top-news/articles/2020-11-09/el-paso-texas-calls-in-ten-morgue-trucks-as-coronavirus-cases-surge
Folks, my political rantings are OVER. May the pussy be with you all. Goodbye!
HobbyMan51
11-10-20, 22:54
Actually he's more likely to see the attached image at Lake Lanier.
On a side note: The United States surging coronavirus outbreak is on pace to hit nearly 1 million new cases a week by the end of the year a scenario that could overwhelm health systems across much of the country.
As we speak, there are refrigerated trucks being rolled out in El Paso, Texas to cope with the overflow of dead bodies from morgues. Trump told us, the virus will just disappear on Nov 4th.
https://www.politico.com/amp/news/2020/11/09/coronavirus-overwhelm-us-before-biden-435235
https://www.usnews.com/news/top-news/articles/2020-11-09/el-paso-texas-calls-in-ten-morgue-trucks-as-coronavirus-cases-surge
Folks, my political rantings are OVER. May the pussy be with you all. Goodbye!Soros is giddy that cases and deaths might be surging! Biden promises a long, dark winter! George is ecstatic. Congratulations, George. You have helped kill America.
If you could there would be effective vaccines for the common cold and influenza, which there are not. Biden will just attempt to mandate masks, shut everything down and try to take credit for a vaccine that's not effective and lacks sufficient safety studies.
Soros is giddy that cases and deaths might be surging! Biden promises a long, dark winter! George is ecstatic. Congratulations, George. You have helped kill America.Simple fact, Trump ran against the COVID pandemic and lost due to his inept response to it. He lost! Goodbye!
If you could there would be effective vaccines for the common cold and influenza, which there are not. Biden will just attempt to mandate masks, shut everything down and try to take credit for a vaccine that's not effective and lacks sufficient safety studies.I'm pretty sure toy don't understand the concept of exponential growth. No vaccine will stop Covid 19 dead in its tracks, but if it is even close to the 90% effectiveness that has been suggested, it can and will slow the exposure to to the disease, and the transmission of it, to a level where it really does become the common flu. Will people still get it? Sure, just like they get the flu, but it will enable society to reopen and allow individuals to take the precautions that feel are in their best interest.
The anti-mask crowd will, of course, refuse to be vaccinated and will continue to spread the disease, so it never completely go away, but the rest of society can reduce its effects to a point where we can all get back to our daily lives.
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I'm pretty sure toy don't understand the concept of exponential growth. No vaccine will stop Covid 19 dead in its tracks, but if it is even close to the 90% effectiveness that has been suggested, it can and will slow the exposure to to the disease, and the transmission of it, to a level where it really does become the common flu. Will people still get it? Sure, just like they get the flu, but it will enable society to reopen and allow individuals to take the precautions that feel are in their best interest.
The anti-mask crowd will, of course, refuse to be vaccinated and will continue to spread the disease, so it never completely go away, but the rest of society can reduce its effects to a point where we can all get back to our daily lives.Well said. Should be a sticky. The CDC has jacked up flu vaccines for years because using a live virus is trying to project how and where lightning will strike, or where all farts since the inception of time have gone. The science is far from perfect. Putting a man on the moon is much easier than figuring out the complexities of the human body.
Double fuckstick Biden wants to force mask wearing nationally. That's like forcing all fat women not to wear skinny jeans. A retard riding a little yellow bus should be the head of Biden's task force because he has more common sense.
HobbyMan51
11-12-20, 08:45
Simple fact, Trump ran against the COVID pandemic and lost due to his inept response to it. He lost! Goodbye!And Mighty Joe will have all the answers. Talk about inept.
Soros is giddy that cases and deaths might be surging! Biden promises a long, dark winter! George is ecstatic. Congratulations, George. You have helped kill America.You are resolutely delusional! President COVID, thought he could tweet away the coronavirus, bully the virus, BS the virus, con the virus, bad mouth the virus, threaten the virus, bluff the virus, bribe the virus, cheat the virus, trick the virus, sue the virus, distract / ignore the virus and think it would go away. He FAILED! To everyone who lost the battle with COVID....we wont forget you!!
And Mighty Joe will have all the answers. Talk about inept.The election is over; the results well known;.
The will of the people is clearly shown.
Let's forget our troubles and show by our deeds.
That we'll give our leader all the help that he needs.
So let's all get together and let bitterness pass;.
I'll hug your elephant and you kiss my donkey.
Well said. Should be a sticky. The CDC has jacked up flu vaccines for years because using a live virus is trying to project how and where lightning will strike, or where all farts since the inception of time have gone. The science is far from perfect. Putting a man on the moon is much easier than figuring out the complexities of the human body.
Double fuckstick Biden wants to force mask wearing nationally. That's like forcing all fat women not to wear skinny jeans. A retard riding a little yellow bus should be the head of Biden's task force because he has more common sense.I'm pretty sure you didn't read my comment to which you replied. If you did, you certainly didn't understand it.
Sgt Lurker
11-12-20, 14:58
The election is over; the results well known;. The will of the people is clearly shown. Let's forget our troubles and show by our deeds. That we'll give our leader all the help that he needs. So let's all get together and let bitterness pass;. I'll hug your elephant and you kiss my donkey.
This whole BS about Unity, Peace and let's all get along now that Sleepy Joe and his Hoe have probably won the WH cracks me up. They were part of the civic unrest the Dems caused the past 4 years. Tell me one time a single Republican elected official or part of the WH staff told citizens to get in the face of the opposition at restaurants, stores, etc. And chase them out? Just one case please.
You can't because that is now how civil Republicans work.
220 k US deaths / 10.5 million US cases. Without the media drama it would seem benign. Obese / already sick old people are dying quickly of Covid and sparing their families the financial ruin and emotional devastation of the well designed path from assisted living to skilled care to intensive care to arrive at hospice penniless or in debt. Covid sounds like a cheaper and faster way to get where they're going anyway with a shorter duration of suffering. Hearing you blame the President is funny like watching a monkey throw excrement at a cloud.
You are resolutely delusional! President COVID, thought he could tweet away the coronavirus, bully the virus, BS the virus, con the virus, bad mouth the virus, threaten the virus, bluff the virus, bribe the virus, cheat the virus, trick the virus, sue the virus, distract / ignore the virus and think it would go away. He FAILED! To everyone who lost the battle with COVID....we wont forget you!!
RedneckStud
11-12-20, 16:16
This whole BS about Unity, Peace and let's all get along now that Sleepy Joe and his Hoe have probably won the WH cracks me up. They were part of the civic unrest the Dems caused the past 4 years. Tell me one time a single Republican elected official or part of the WH staff told citizens to get in the face of the opposition at restaurants, stores, etc. And chase them out? Just one case please.
You can't because that is now how civil Republicans work.I can name a couple of sheriffs that called for the shooting of Democrats.
Sgt Lurker
11-12-20, 17:21
I can name a couple of sheriffs that called for the shooting of Democrats.That I would like to hear! But I was specifically speaking of the call for domestic terror that Maxine Waters, Corry Booker, and AOC called for. Do you need a history lesson?
That I would like to hear! .......
Your wishes have been heard!
Police Chief Resigns After Making Threats to Democrats.
A police chief in Arkansas resigned after he made threatening posts targeting Democrats on social media platform Parler, the Kansas City Star reports.
Lang Holland drew the ire of the community after posts from a Parler profile bearing his name and likeness claimed the presidential election had been stolen, and repeatedly called for violence against Democrats.
https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/arkansas/articles/2020-11-08/arkansas-police-chief-resigns-after-threatening-democrats
Michigan Sheriff Defends Man Suspected of Planning Democratic Governor Whitmer's Kidnapping/murder Conspiracy During 'Wild' Interview.
The sheriff goes out of his way to lay out the defense for those accused of terrorism. Rarely has a sheriff emphasized so strongly the presumption of innocence or tried to create reasonable doubt. Pretty terrifying, honestly, he continued. A sheriff who is clearly okay with the kidnapping plot.
https://lawandcrime.com/crazy/michigan-sheriff-defends-man-suspected-of-planning-whitmer-kidnapping-conspiracy-during-wild-interview/
It's the duty of all law-abiding Americans, left, right or center, to call bullshit on this kind of rhetoric and behavior. Moreover, it is the responsibility of our leaders, to call bullshit on this nonsense. We must all stand up for the rule of law, truth, democracy and reality lest we end up like the Weimar Republic, or worse Spain of the 1930's.
220 k US deaths / 10.5 million US cases. Without the media drama it would seem benign. Obese / already sick old people are dying quickly of Covid and sparing their families the financial ruin and emotional devastation of the well designed path from assisted living to skilled care to intensive care to arrive at hospice penniless or in debt. Covid sounds like a cheaper and faster way to get where they're going anyway with a shorter duration of suffering. Hearing you blame the President is funny like watching a monkey throw excrement at a cloud.Pinhead, you are one sick puppy, would you like to apply the same kind of logic to disabled people, blind people, people with cancer, heart disease, mental illnesses and so on. Trump has gone AWOL on the pandemic response, he has however created a war room to fight for his re-election. Also, how embarrassing for the US that Doctors Without Borders, is coming here to help with our covid crisis. Doctors without borders is an International medical organization that provides medical assistance to poor countries around the world.
Pinhead, you are one sick puppy, would you like to apply the same kind of logic to disabled people, blind people, people with cancer, heart disease, mental illnesses and so on. Trump has gone AWOL on the pandemic response, he has however created a war room to fight for his re-election. Also, how embarrassing for the US that Doctors Without Borders, is coming here to help with our covid crisis. Doctors without borders is an International medical organization that provides medical assistance to impoverished countries around the world.You should take mental illness out of that list. If it is left in the New Democratic Socialist party would cease to exist. As for the sheriffs in your previous post they are no worse than the Mayor and city council of Portland or Seattle sending their police force out to be killed by Antifa and BLM thugs. Hell at least they call out the true enemies of our democracy.
That I would like to hear! But I was specifically speaking of the call for domestic terror that Maxine Waters, Corry Booker, and AOC called for. Do you need a history lesson?As stupid as Biden is, I don't think AOC was on his short list of VP candidates. Her temper is like that of my ex.
Pinhead, you are one sick puppy, would you like to apply the same kind of logic to disabled people, blind people, people with cancer, heart disease, mental illnesses and so on. Trump has gone AWOL on the pandemic response, he has however created a war room to fight for his re-election. Also, how embarrassing for the US that Doctors Without Borders, is coming here to help with our covid crisis. Doctors without borders is an International medical organization that provides medical assistance to poor countries around the world.We are a poor country 22 trl in det about $22000 for every person here.
You should take mental illness out of that list. If it is left in the New Democratic Socialist party would cease to exist. As for the sheriffs in your previous post they are no worse than the Mayor and city council of Portland or Seattle sending their police force out to be killed by Antifa and BLM thugs. Hell at least they call out the true enemies of our democracy.I advise you to read how to heal yourself from brainwashing and regain control of your mind.
https://freedomofmind.com/bite-model/
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We are a poor country 22 trl in det about $22000 for every person here.Your brain is poor. Can you do basic math in your head?
Surely this must be you.....Leave your relatives out of this!
Sgt Lurker
11-12-20, 21:45
Your wishes have been heard! Police Chief Resigns After Making Threats to Democrats. A police chief in Arkansas resigned after he made threatening posts targeting Democrats on social media platform Parler, the Kansas City Star reports.
Lang Holland drew the ire of the community after posts from a Parler profile bearing his name and likeness claimed the presidential election had been stolen, and repeatedly called for violence against Democrats. https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/arkansas/articles/2020-11-08/arkansas-police-chief-resigns-after-threatening-democrats Michigan Sheriff Defends Man Suspected of Planning Democratic Governor Whitmer's Kidnapping/murder Conspiracy During 'Wild' Interview. The sheriff goes out of his way to lay out the defense for those accused of terrorism. Rarely has a sheriff emphasized so strongly the presumption of innocence or tried to create reasonable doubt. Pretty terrifying, honestly, he continued. A sheriff who is clearly okay with the kidnapping plot. https://lawandcrime.com/crazy/michigan-sheriff-defends-man-suspected-of-planning-whitmer-kidnapping-conspiracy-during-wild-interview/ It's the duty of all law-abiding Americans, left, right or center, to call bullshit on this kind of rhetoric and behavior. Moreover, it is the responsibility of our leaders, to call bullshit on this nonsense. We must all stand up for the rule of law, truth, democracy and reality lest we end up like the Weimar Republic, or worse Spain of the 1930's.They are not US Congress or Senate or WH Staff. Try again if you can.
I'm pretty sure you didn't read my comment to which you replied. If you did, you certainly didn't understand it.I did understand your post. Which part do you think I did not understand?
They are not US Congress or Senate or WH Staff. Try again if you canDuring the Presidential debates Trump was asked by debate moderator Chris Wallace to disavow white supremacy. Trump did not denounce any far-right or white supremacist groups. He asked them to "stand back and stand by. " The very next day, the Proud Boys, a far-right extremist group, pledged allegiance to Trump. This will go down in the history books as giving marching orders to paramilitary right wing groups to disrupt voting and then following a close election, use armed force to destroy American Democracy.
HobbyMan51
11-13-20, 00:02
The election is over; the results well known;.
The will of the people is clearly shown.
Let's forget our troubles and show by our deeds.
That we'll give our leader all the help that he needs.
So let's all get together and let bitterness pass;.
I'll hug your elephant and you kiss my donkey.Your "leader" won't last long but long enough to lead us straight to hell. Clever last line. Forget about it.
They are not US Congress or Senate or WH Staff. Try again if you can.Try to stay focused bud. This was RedneckStud's response to your comment. 👇
I can name a couple of sheriffs that called for the shooting of Democrats.You then asked him the following.👇
That I would like to hear! I then provided two examples. I resolutely refuse to take any trips down every rabbit hole with you crazies. Fellas, my work here is done!
Sgt Lurker
11-13-20, 07:58
Try to stay focused bud. This was RedneckStud's response to your comment. 👇 You then asked him the following.👇 I then provided two examples. I resolutely refuse to take any trips down every rabbit hole with you crazies. Fellas, my work here is done!You still lose this argument and cannot see it. Your TDS is over the top.
You still lose this argument and cannot see it. Your TDS is over the top.Try to stay focused bud. I know it's been a nightmarish 10 days!
This was RedneckStud's response to your initial comment. 👇.
I can name a couple of sheriffs that called for the shooting of Democrats.This was your response👇.
That I would like to hear! I provided two examples. Again, I resolutely refuse to take any trips down every rabbit hole with you wacko birds.
On a side note: The only person deranged is Trump. He has “checked out” while the pandemic rages, unchecked. Trump continues to tweet on his iPhone while Rome burns, the U.S. has now surpassed 150,000 cases in a single day. If you want to know what the map of deep-red hotspot states look like, start with the entire U.S., remove all the coastal states and West Virginia, add back New Mexico and Alaska, and you've got it. Virologists are now wondering which will come first: 300,000 new cases in a day, or Thanksgiving. This pandemic now has the potential to overwhelm our health care system.
This whole BS about Unity, Peace and let's all get along now that Sleepy Joe and his Hoe have probably won the WH cracks me up. They were part of the civic unrest the Dems caused the past 4 years. Tell me one time a single Republican elected official or part of the WH staff told citizens to get in the face of the opposition at restaurants, stores, etc. And chase them out? Just one case please.
You can't because that is now how civil Republicans work.Tear gassing people in front of St. Johns church so bonespurs Dennison could hold a bible upside down. Even Fox "News" is abandoning wannabe President Camacho.
I advise you to read how to heal yourself from brainwashing and regain control of your mind.
https://freedomofmind.com/bite-model/
********* 👇👇👇**********Those lunk heads are the 38%. They obfuscate. There the bullys you grew up with who are still bullies and stupid. They say shit like "I got my gun", thinking they're the only ones with guns.
I did understand your post. Which part do you think I did not understandThe part where you start off with, "Well said. " and then go on to pretty much disavow everything that I said.
Leave your relatives out of this!That image describes you all to a tee, if the shoe fits wear it proudly....lol
Sgt Lurker
11-13-20, 11:07
Try to stay focused bud. I know it's been a nightmarish 10 days! This was RedneckStud's response to your initial comment. 👇. This was your response👇. I provided two examples. Again, I resolutely refuse to take any trips down every rabbit hole with you wacko birds. I asked for Federally elected officials or WH Staff. No one has shown me one single incident of a F E D E are A L elected Republican. Do you need a coloring book to understand basic English?
I asked for Federally elected officials or WH Staff. No one has shown me one single incident of a F E D E are A L elected Republican. Do you need a coloring book to understand basic English?Wow, you really are dumber than I thought. Goodbye!
The part where you start off with, "Well said. " and then go on to pretty much disavow everything that I said.I said this: "Well said. Should be a sticky. The CDC has jacked up flu vaccines for years because using a live virus is trying to project how and where lightning will strike, or where all farts since the inception of time have gone. The science is far from perfect. Putting a man on the moon is much easier than figuring out the complexities of the human body.
Double fuckstick Biden wants to force mask wearing nationally. That's like forcing all fat women not to wear skinny jeans. A retard riding a little yellow bus should be the head of Biden's task force because he has more common sense. ".
The first paragraph agrees with you but covers 90% of the situation. The second paragraph covers the other 10% where any mask mandate, though good on paper, is all but impossible to implement. Maybe I should have explained it better the first time. I did not disavow anything you said. I just added the missing 10 percent.
Tear gassing people in front of St. Johns church so bonespurs Dennison could hold a bible upside down. Even Fox "News" is abandoning wannabe President Camacho.Yeah, are you referring to the Church the peaceful protestors set on fire the day before? How is it that 60 secret service members were injured and needed medical treatment from such a peaceful protest? Did you watch the physical aggression and truly awful shit those animal protestors said to the Secret Service and Law Enforcement Officers who weren't allowed to engage or fight back because I did. Those bullies in high school had children that are the protestors. Get a life you liberal pussy, or better yet, go suck off Anderson Cooper. Mind you surroundings dickhead, your beta male friends would not approve of your hobby. Maybe you can find some new friends on Pinterest.
During the Presidential debates Trump was asked by debate moderator Chris Wallace to disavow white supremacy. Trump did not denounce any far-right or white supremacist groups. He asked them to "stand back and stand by. " The very next day, the Proud Boys, a far-right extremist group, pledged allegiance to Trump. This will go down in the history books as giving marching orders to paramilitary right wing groups to disrupt voting and then following a close election, use armed force to destroy American Democracy.That's the white supremacist group with the brown guy in charge right?
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Folks, my political rantings are OVER. May the pussy be with you all. Goodbye!Shitbag, you said you were done with your political rantings and we took you at your word. What gives? Have you no strength of character or moral fortitude whatsoever? I thought you were going to do something more productive like focus all your attention and effort on your job with Anderson Consulting or your Pilates classes on Zoom? Poor little slob, just can't help yourself. I mean, you really are a crack ***** when it comes down to it. Back for that fix! GOODBYE!
Shitbag, you said you were done with your political rantings and we took you at your word. What gives? Have you no strength of character or moral fortitude whatsoever? I thought you were going to do something more productive like focus all your attention and effort on your job with Anderson Consulting or your Pilates classes on Zoom? Poor little slob, just can't help yourself. I mean, you really are a crack ***** when it comes down to it. Back for that fix! GOODBYE!Dumbass, thanks for thinking of me....lol I really don't have the time or the crayons to argue with a fool. Have a wonderful day, ma'am.
That's the white supremacist group with the brown guy in charge right?
During the Presidential debates Trump was asked by debate moderator Chris Wallace to disavow white supremacy. Trump did NOT denounce any far-right or white supremacist groups. He asked them to "stand back and stand by. " The very next day, the Proud Boys, a far-right extremist group, pledged allegiance to Trump.....You seem to have serious reading comprehension issues. Regardless of race, the leader of Proud Boy's is still an avowed right wing extremist nut sack who ran in the Republican primary election in Florida.
AssLover1979
11-15-20, 01:41
Does it drive anyone else absolutely fucking nuts when these girls post contradicting ads? This girl post one ad talking about "sucking the cum from the tip of your cock" and then another ad stating she doesn't do BBJ. Which is it for god's sake?
When they complain about guys asking questions all the time. Maybe it's because both your personalities are posting under one account!
https://escortalligator.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/georgia/atlanta/55977000/
https://escortalligator.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/georgia/atlanta/55984888/
Does it drive anyone else absolutely fucking nuts when these girls post contradicting ads? This girl post one ad talking about "sucking the cum from the tip of your cock" and then another ad stating she doesn't do BBJ. Which is it for god's sake?
When they complain about guys asking questions all the time. Maybe it's because both your personalities are posting under one account!
https://escortalligator.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/georgia/atlanta/55977000/
https://escortalligator.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/georgia/atlanta/55984888/I would text her with both URLs and ask which one is correct.
You seem to have serious reading comprehension issues. Regardless of race, the leader of Proud Boy's is still an avowed right wing extremist nut sack who ran in the Republican primary election in Florida.Yes Fuckstick, I saw the distinction and was making fun of you but, in all fairness, your media did call the Proud Boys white supremacists for a while. Who is the one shining lasers in police officer's eyes, rioting, looting, burning buildings and cars, throwing Molotov cocktails, attacking elderly, etc. It's not the Proud Boys or even the white supremacists. Even in DC this weekend, there was a peaceful March with MAGA supporters and your people showed up to burn shit and start fights. And like typical liberal cowards, they waited until mostly everyone had left and the sun went down before they started the rioting and other fun stuff knowing the police officers could not fight back. I was quite pleased when the Proud Boys went to Portland and whipped some ass because someone had to do it. Again, after the Proud Boys had left Portland that day and the sun went down, your coward liberals started fighting the police that can't fight back and they burned and rioted. Remember when they brought their mommys down to protest with them that one night? Now THAT was priceless. Will Biden or Harris condemn BLM or ANTIFA for attacking the marchers in DC this weekend or condemn them in any way. Of course not, as K-Dawg Harris says, "Their message is too important. " Since your are fucking retarded, here is a link to factcheck. Org to put this issue to rest that your are full of shit.
https://www.factcheck.org/2020/02/trump-has-condemned-white-supremacists/
Ozymandias
11-15-20, 22:53
Does it drive anyone else absolutely fucking nuts when these girls post contradicting ads? This girl post one ad talking about "sucking the cum from the tip of your cock" and then another ad stating she doesn't do BBJ. Which is it for god's sake?
When they complain about guys asking questions all the time. Maybe it's because both your personalities are posting under one account!
https://escortalligator.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/georgia/atlanta/55977000/
https://escortalligator.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/georgia/atlanta/55984888/I was hanging out with an escort friend once when she was putting an ad together. She didn't actually *write* it, but just looked around at a few ads which she liked, copied sentences from several, and then pretty much cobbled together her ad content, put some pics on, upload, boom. Done.
Bear in mind, none of these girls were academic all-star, college bowl, math team types. They were stoners and back-of-the-class crayon eaters (no offense to my jarhead friends).
The notion of "consistent brand messaging" is largely beyond them.
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Yes Fuckstick, I saw the distinction and was making fun of you but, in all fairness, your media did call the Proud Boys white supremacists for a while. Who is the one shining lasers in police officer's eyes, rioting, looting, burning buildings and cars, throwing Molotov cocktails, attacking elderly, etc. It's not the Proud Boys or even the white supremacists. Even in DC this weekend, there was a peaceful March with MAGA supporters and your people showed up to burn shit and start fights. And like typical liberal cowards, they waited until mostly everyone had left and the sun went down before they started the rioting and other fun stuff knowing the police officers could not fight back. I was quite pleased when the Proud Boys went to Portland and whipped some ass because someone had to do it. Again, after the Proud Boys had left Portland that day and the sun went down, your coward liberals started fighting the police that can't fight back and they burned and rioted. Remember when they brought their mommys down to protest with them that one night? Now THAT was priceless. Will Biden or Harris condemn BLM or ANTIFA for attacking the marchers in DC this weekend or condemn them in any way. Of course not, as K-Dawg Harris says, "Their message is too important. " Since your are fucking retarded, here is a link to factcheck. Org to put this issue to rest that your are full of shit.
https://www.factcheck.org/2020/02/trump-has-condemned-white-supremacists/I've been constantly wondering how police will fare in this new political climate. I think in a lot of ways, police will be harsher in traditional Republican areas (where I live), yet have to walk on eggshells in Democrap locales.
GreaterGator
11-16-20, 19:15
Ahh... One of mine old time favorites. FS available on site or take out. Remind me to pay her a visit this week.
Can anyone else here confirm Angela's level of service?Total BS. Angela is a very sweet girl that provides decent service and a decent massage. Nothing more, nothing less.
Total BS. Angela is a very sweet girl that provides decent service and a decent massage. Nothing more, nothing less.I know, and this has been a trend for weeks. Now an entire page plus of hog slop, stocked with noobs with multiple aliases popping up like zits on a teenager. A decent monger can't take a dump in peace anymore. It's like wiping your ass with the National Enquirer in 80-grit.
RiverRat99
11-21-20, 21:32
Atlanta used to have game.
The "escorts, AMPs and "Arrangements" now suck in this city and as especially compared to just 10 years ago. Even our strip club selection SUCKS!
Major opportunity here for someone that has the balls, wherewithall, and resources available to make it possible.
HUGE MARKET in Atlanta!
Smyrnaguy1980
12-02-20, 05:02
OK, I've been to Johnny's Hideaway, the loft, and trapeze Johnny's Hideaway is a great bar for meeting women was just curious if there's any other good bars in the Atlanta area that is successful at meeting women? Not looking for strip clubs. Those that know Johnny's Hideaway know it's cougars & swinger friendly looking for something similar.
http://www.threesheetsatlanta.com/
Smyrnaguy1980
12-07-20, 01:13
http://www.threesheetsatlanta.com/Thank you. How would you compare that to Johnny's hideaway?
My 2nd time visiting this one. I'm from out of state & don't typically review, but wanted to warn others about this ripoff experience. First visit a few weeks back was just OK. This time I arrive after she communicates through text, location average hotel quality suites. I set the $ down which granted wasn't enough, instead she gets upset & takes it & calls over her handler / pimp in the other room. I'm safe, but Idk if it's because times must be getting tough because of Covid. But you have below average girls demanding $100-120 qv's smh, might be time to take a break.
https://escortalligator.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/georgia/atlanta/56518955/If you shorted her on purpose then I'm not mad at her for taking your money and calling her handler. If you didn't want to pay the agreed upon price then just stay home or find someone else.
If you shorted her on purpose then I'm not mad at her for taking your money and calling her handler. If you didn't want to pay the agreed upon price then just stay home or find someone else.LOL it's pathetic simps like this that got ugly and or fat bitches charging 100 qv because simps like this guy are falling in love and sticking up for hoes.
If you shorted her on purpose then I'm not mad at her for taking your money and calling her handler. If you didn't want to pay the agreed upon price then just stay home or find someone else.I agree with you 1000%! 👍👍
YeOldHornDawg
12-08-20, 09:24
If you shorted her on purpose then I'm not mad at her for taking your money and calling her handler. If you didn't want to pay the agreed upon price then just stay home or find someone else.Yep, in an industry that relies on reputation and operating in good faith, we can't complain about scammers and then think it's ok to turn around and do it ourselves.
Atlanta used to have game.
The "escorts, AMPs and "Arrangements" now suck in this city and as especially compared to just 10 years ago. Even our strip club selection SUCKS!
Major opportunity here for someone that has the balls, wherewithall, and resources available to make it possible.
HUGE MARKET in Atlanta!Hey RiverRat. You must be going to the wrong strip clubs, LOL. I've gotten plenty of mileage out of several strip clubs. The 2 latest are Diamond and Wax. I haven't been to a couple of other that have recently been mentioned, but I plan to: Platinum and Vlive.
. The first thing that catches your eye in this photo is the fact that her handler wasn't raised in a house full of Southern women. If he had been, the last time he would have left the bathroom without putting the seat down would have been when he was 5 and didn't know any better. Southern Gentlemen don't make that mistake twice, the price is just too damn high.
http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=598666&stc=1&d=1607849061
. The first thing that catches your eye in this photo is the fact that her handler wasn't raised in a house full of Southern women. If he had been, the last time he would have left the bathroom without putting the seat down would have been when he was 5 and didn't know any better. Southern Gentlemen don't make that mistake twice, the price is just too damn high.
http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=598666&stc=1&d=1607849061Even worse if SHE left the seat up.
Even worse if SHE left the seat up.With due respect, I'm not sure we can use the word "SHE" until IT has been provided a Safe Space in which it can complete the self-awareness vision quest needed to select ITs preferred pronoun (s).
Also, if your worse case scenario is in fact the accurate one how do you think things would play out when IT went to take a SHE (IT) and sat down before realizing the seat was up? Would IT have to bit**slap Itself?
As Arsenio would say. . . https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PK5zqikbfUw.
With due respect, I'm not sure we can use the word "SHE" until IT has been provided a Safe Space in which it can complete the self-awareness vision quest needed to select ITs preferred pronoun (s).
Also, if your worse case scenario is in fact the accurate one how do you think things would play out when IT went to take a SHE (IT) and sat down before realizing the seat was up? Would IT have to bit**slap Itself?
As Arsenio would say. . . https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PK5zqikbfUw.The Mr. Blackwood reference is priceless. On a side note, wonder how many marriages have failed due to a stupid wife not realising hubby left the toilet seat up and she dipped herself too deep?
Atlanta used to have game.
The "escorts, AMPs and "Arrangements" now suck in this city and as especially compared to just 10 years ago. Even our strip club selection SUCKS!
Major opportunity here for someone that has the balls, wherewithall, and resources available to make it possible.
HUGE MARKET in Atlanta!Brother, we feel your pain. Women are now demanding premium rates to do basically nothing. Just for the heck of it, I sent the lady with the ad below a text asking for her rates and she responds, $150 for a quicky....lol. My response to her, goodluck!
🤮🤮NO BAREBACK NO DATY NO ORAL NO GFE NO GREEK NO BBBJ 🤮🤮 😘😘Hey fellas looking to have a a great time with some cambodian loving women that love to please and give you the satisfaction guarantee with no rush give me a call.
Brother, we feel your pain. Women are now demanding premium rates to do basically nothing. Just for the heck of it, I sent the lady with the ad below a text asking for her rates and she responds, $150 for a quicky....lol. My response to her, goodluck!You haven't seen crazy. I am not trying to be mean or anything but there is a woman who is also on IG asking $$ 0 per hr. Dude this individual looks. Lets be nice not so great what so ever. Idk why they feel so entitled to premium prices when what they offer is trash. Attitude trash. The good women are either out of the game or have moved to other cities. Time and time again all I encounter are women with horrible attitudes. Upcharge upon arriving. For example if you want more head pay 80. Wut? The only ones off the top of my head who are worth it is Leah but she is to far for me. I have seen porn stars who come and visit Atlanta asking $.20 or $.40 for a QV and that includes a host of enticing services. At this point I'm just looking for one good woman who satisfies all my desires for service and price point or a good fwb. I've already been talking to one college girl.
Also last yea porn star Kendra Kox was charging 250 or so an hour in Atlanta and phew was she amazing.
My worst experience in the past few months is with a woman in Decatur. I paid her and after that it went downhill. I'd ask her to do something she would give attitude, refuse etc. She wouldn't get on the bed and her reasoning was I sleep on it. There were two beds in the room LOL. I would have taken my money back but that area was to sketchy.
Maybe not! Every time I get some strange my dog busts me as soon as I walk in the house! Doesn't matter how thoroughly I shower, he knows! He is all up sniffing my business like I have steak in my pants. I am sure he approves, but it is a bit of a concern. Thus far it has not led to too many awkward questions! Kinda funny. I do believe he could sniff out a fart on a moon beam!
Had it. Not from a club. Who knows from where. Best thing about having had it is the freedom of knowing you can now put it in a bong and smoke. Death rate went from 4 to 2 percent. If you factor in the heart disaese death have dropped to near 0 this year and been assigned to covid instead misleadingly, then the death rate may be nearer to 1 % or less. Point is you areat least 98 to 99% going to be okay. Maybe a better chance of dying on I85 tonight.This is a very ignorant statement COVID is killing lots of people everyday yes mainly elderly people but it's you young idiots going out to bars and clubs spreading the shit and giving it to other people who do have medical conditions. This virus has kill over 300,000 people so stop being ignorant about COVID this shit is serious and honestly I wish they would shut every strip club down in Georgia until this pandemic is over!
Total BS. Angela is a very sweet girl that provides decent service and a decent massage. Nothing more, nothing less.Gator, you can't defend all the girls. They are not all virgins. I can confirm she is no virgin. She changed stores by the way.
Yestheydo.
Johnny Mapalo
12-24-20, 20:15
This is a very ignorant statement COVID is killing lots of people everyday yes mainly elderly people but it's you young idiots going out to bars and clubs spreading the shit and giving it to other people who do have medical conditions. This virus has kill over 300,000 people so stop being ignorant about COVID this shit is serious and honestly I wish they would shut every strip club down in Georgia until this pandemic is over!Show me the proof that 300,000 so called people died from Corona. The gubment is trying to scare you sheep into full submission. Smdh.
GreaterGator
12-24-20, 21:43
Gator, you can't defend all the girls. They are not all virgins. I can confirm she is no virgin. She changed stores by the way.
Yestheydo.Clear your inbox.
Clear your inbox.Gladly. I'll await.
TooHotForYou
12-25-20, 14:16
Don't want to step on anybody's toes here, but I do wonder if King really did die or if the poster who's saying he died is King himself playing another game but I hope that is not the case if King really did die.
JeffInnAtlanta
12-25-20, 20:06
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I'm sorry he passed as well but stop using the death of one person to continue to beat the drum for the over reaction to Covid 19. Covid 19 is NOT the biggest health issue in the world, heart disease continues to kill 3X the number of people who died WITH not OF covid. (94% of the people who died WITH covid had a average of 2.9 underlying life threatening diseases.
So far worldwide 1.5 million people have died WITH covid, before this current round of lockdowns that will do as little as the first round did the UN council on hunger says and additional 10,000,000 people will starve to death next year as a direct result of the mitigation taken to "control" Covid 19, now that we are doing it again it will probably be 20,000,000. Before this round of lockdowns the slowdown of the global economy had already destroyed the lives of 400,000,000 people worldwide, that's 5% of the worlds population forced into extreme poverty, adding to the 400,000,000 that already where there. Now that people like you are pushing for more will we reach a billion? Of that billion people how many will starve in the next 10 years so that you can virtue signal?
If you want to beat your breast and talk about the biggest health problem in the world it's hunger caused by people like you.
I will not let you hijack this man's death, nor this forum to add your voice to the idiots who are completely and totally ignoring the horrific problems they are causing worldwide over a virus with a 99.74% recoviery. I'm as sorry as I can be for his family, I'm sorry he passed, he seemed like a decent guy but he was one of the .26% that died with covid, for every one that dies 399 recover.
Keep this stupidity on the fight thread.
A2
This is a very ignorant statement COVID is killing lots of people everyday yes mainly elderly people but it's you young idiots going out to bars and clubs spreading the shit and giving it to other people who do have medical conditions. This virus has kill over 300,000 people so stop being ignorant about COVID this shit is serious and honestly I wish they would shut every strip club down in Georgia until this pandemic is over!Not an ignorant statement at all. Nearly 80 percent of all COVID related fatalities are over the age of 70. Some 99 percent of positives under the age of 70 recover. That's fact.
Related, too, is an important fact. Nearly all had co-morbidities; the average number of co-morbidities is 2. 6. These people are dying with COVID, not necessarily of it. And importantly, despite the sharp increase in daily positives, the death rate is essentially flat for the past five months.
It is a harsh virus, no doubt. But it can be far better managed by protecting those at greatest risk, not by shutting down every aspect of society.
The places of greatest risk? A grocery store at 5 pm All the best. Wear a damn mask in public, if for no other reason, don't be rude. Wash your damn hands.
And may King rest in peace.
Not an ignorant statement at all. Nearly 80 percent of all COVID related fatalities are over the age of 70. Some 99 percent of positives under the age of 70 recover. That's fact.
Related, too, is an important fact. Nearly all had co-morbidities; the average number of co-morbidities is 2. 6. These people are dying with COVID, not necessarily of it. And importantly, despite the sharp increase in daily positives, the death rate is essentially flat for the past five months.
It is a harsh virus, no doubt. But it can be far better managed by protecting those at greatest risk, not by shutting down every aspect of society.
The places of greatest risk? A grocery store at 5 pm All the best. Wear a damn mask in public, if for no other reason, don't be rude. Wash your damn hands.
And may King rest in peace.Very well said.
We don't agree on much but we do on this.
Indeed, well said
A2
This is a very ignorant statement COVID is killing lots of people everyday yes mainly elderly people but it's you young idiots going out to bars and clubs spreading the shit and giving it to other people who do have medical conditions. This virus has kill over 300,000 people so stop being ignorant about COVID this shit is serious and honestly I wish they would shut every strip club down in Georgia until this pandemic is over!Over 300,000 people have died WITH covid not OF covid.
This is lifted directly from the CDC provisional death count page.
"For 6% of the deaths, COVID-19 was the only cause mentioned. For deaths with conditions or causes in addition to COVID-19, on average, there were 2. 9 additional conditions or causes per death. ".
To be clear, the average 2. 9 additional health issues they had were as follows:
Cancer.
Chronic kidney disease.
COPD (chronic obstructive pulmonary disease).
Heart conditions, such as heart failure, coronary artery disease, or cardiomyopathies.
Immunocompromised state (weakened immune system) from solid organ transplant.
Obesity (body mass index BMI of 30 kg / m2 or higher but < 40 kg / m2).
Severe Obesity (BMI ≥ 40 kg / m2).
Pregnancy.
Sickle cell disease.
Smoking.
Type 2 diabetes mellitus.
Asthma (moderate-to-severe).
Cerebrovascular disease (affects blood vessels and blood supply to the brain).
Cystic fibrosis.
Hypertension or high blood pressure.
Immunocompromised state (weakened immune system) from blood or bone marrow transplant, immune deficiencies, HIV, use of corticosteroids, or use of other immune weakening medicines.
Neurologic conditions, such as dementia.
Liver disease.
Overweight (BMI 25 kg / m2, but < 30 kg / m2).
Pulmonary fibrosis (having damaged or scarred lung tissues).
Thalassemia (a type of blood disorder).
Type 1 diabetes mellitus.
94% of the people who died had an AVERAGE of NEARLY 3 of these life threatening illnesses or conditions BEFORE getting covid.
91% of them were over the age of 55.
It's not the young people who have no fucking risk of dying that is causing the problem, the fucking problem is the same number of elderly sick people are dying, they are just dying while they are positive for covid (in the provisional death counts there is a running total of the number of people who have died of all causes in the US, in the last three years that number was 2. 85 million, in 2020 that fucking number is going to be right at 2. 85 million, there are NO essentially no excess deaths and yes, I'm aware of the article published saying that for a few months of the year their have been and that's true but over the year their will have been.
Again, it's all right here all you have to do is look. One of the truly astonishing things to me is the number of deaths from influenza, the US normally has 40,000 or so and some years as many as 80,000 yet in 2020, the worst year of the century there have been less than 7,000. Why is nobody talking about that?
Before you finger wag open your fucking eyes and look.
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid_weekly/index.htm
Over 300,000 people have died WITH covid not OF covid.Yes, and no-one ever dies OF AIDS, just WITH AIDS. But it doesn't really matter as they are all still dead and didn't have to die.
Yes, and no-one ever dies OF AIDS, just WITH AIDS. But it doesn't really matter as they are all still dead and didn't have to die.You don't understand math. Let me simplify.
2017,2018, 2019 2. 85 million people died of all causes in the US.
2020 2. 85 million people died of all causes in the US.
94% of them had an average of 2. 9 life threatening illnesses.
The vast majority were dying this year with or without covid. You can call 300,000 of the deaths Covid, but when the number of people who died by the end of the year were exactly what you were expecting at the begging of the year yes, they had to die because they were going to do anyway.
Let me try this, if you're standing on the edge of a building and somebody shoots you in the head and you fall off it wasn't the fall that killed you. The 2. 9 life threatening illnesses is the shot in the head, covid was just the ground you landed on.
I get it, you will keep arguing because you picked a political narrative in April and can't admit you're wrong but the facts don't give a shit about your embarrassment.
That's exactly the point, most of them were going to die anyway. That's why 2.85 million are going to die of all causes, you can't manipulate all causes.
You don't understand math. Let me simplify.
2017,2018, 2019 2. 85 million people died of all causes in the US.
2020 2. 85 million people died of all causes in the US.
94% of them had an average of 2. 9 life threatening illnesses.
The vast majority were dying this year with or without covid. You can call 300,000 of the deaths Covid, but when the number of people who died by the end of the year were exactly what you were expecting at the begging of the year yes, they had to die because they were going to do anyway.
Let me try this, if you're standing on the edge of a building and somebody shoots you in the head and you fall off it wasn't the fall that killed you. The 2. 9 life threatening illnesses is the shot in the head, covid was just the ground you landed on.
I get it, you will keep arguing because you picked a political narrative in April and can't admit you're wrong but the facts don't give a shit about your embarrassment.
That's exactly the point, most of them were going to die anyway. That's why 2.85 million are going to die of all causes, you can't manipulate all causes.This is big facts. Lets not forget a few months ago the cdc essentially admitted to the over inflated death count. They said 6 percent of the deaths in August were solely covid and the other 94 percent were of people who had 2-3 complications. At that time less than 10 k people died from solely covid. Like people who have had strokes, cancer, over weight etc. Also may I say wearing a mask makes you more susceptible to contracting the virus. This has been proved in many case studies that are independently funded since April but I digress. I mean a mask can't even block the particles from cologne or your dam fart LMAO. I would say at this moment to be generous that 7-8 percent of the 300,000 deaths are of solely covid. Which is around 20-23 k people. This is still less than the swine flu death numbers of 2012 LOL or it would put it just over it. Idk how people think or even remotely believe the virus can be stopped.
Tell me how Italian doctors tested a kiwi for covid and it tested positive LOL. The insides of it. Test results are over inflated. It doesn't account for people who retest. People who retest are counted as a new covid cases. How do I know this? I have friends whom are doctors and nurses. More people have died to cancer and numerous other diseases than covid. Last year in August of 2019 40 k+ people died of obesity in ONE MONTH. No one bats an eye. One person contracts a virus with a 99.99 percent survival rate and everyone is ready to surrender their rights like sheep LOL.
A disturbing epidemic happening amongst our young ones and young adults are people committing suicide. The psychological effects of lock downs is very bad and is causing more harm than good. Kids committing suicide in live virtual classroom sessions.
People just don't know how to take care of their immune system at all. Dentist are seeing an increasing amount of people with rotting gums, rotting teeth, tooth decay etc. It's quite obvious. We has humans expel / emit CO2 (carbon dioxide). That is why when many people wear mask they all of a sudden feel sick, light headed etc because they're exposing themselves to high co2 levels.
The disturbing part imo amongst what is going on is that it shows people do not know how to take care of their immune systems. A mask is so counter intuitive and tons of people are reaping their ignorance by having rotting gums and teeth.
To everyone here do some independent research and ignore biased resources and the news that instill fear please. Living in fear is not a way of life. If you are living in fear you're already dead. Do research on how to up keep your immune system. For instance garlic makes your white blood cells go on steroids. It contains allicin which is known to attack impurities, viruses etc in your body. Detox from certain foods and beverages. Boil cinnamon sticks with ginger root. These are things I have done for years hence I never get sick lmao. How do I take garlic? I chop it up into pieces I can swallow. Great for other things health wise as well. Supplement Vitamin D as we as men don't get enough of it from the sun. Zinc etc is just as important in moderation. Anyways the truth shall set you free. Do independent research via duckduckgo as google censors a lot of info.
Don't take my word for it. Everyone is entitled to their opinion but not the facts. It is up to individuals to seek the truth which is another problem of its own. People refuse to do proper research. I have been in conversations of where I'm giving people facts with the evidence and data to prove it in their face and they'll still deny it but oh well what can we do.
PunkedLife
12-26-20, 17:34
You don't understand math. Let me simplify.
2017,2018, 2019 2. 85 million people died of all causes in the US.
2020 2. 85 million people died of all causes in the US.
94% of them had an average of 2. 9 life threatening illnesses.
The vast majority were dying this year with or without covid. You can call 300,000 of the deaths Covid, but when the number of people who died by the end of the year were exactly what you were expecting at the begging of the year yes, they had to die because they were going to do anyway.
Let me try this, if you're standing on the edge of a building and somebody shoots you in the head and you fall off it wasn't the fall that killed you. The 2. 9 life threatening illnesses is the shot in the head, covid was just the ground you landed on.
I get it, you will keep arguing because you picked a political narrative in April and can't admit you're wrong but the facts don't give a shit about your embarrassment.
That's exactly the point, most of them were going to die anyway. That's why 2.85 million are going to die of all causes, you can't manipulate all causes.First off don't use aids in this analogy because you are ill informed. Yes aids doesn't kill you but if weakens your immune system enough so that what you normally wouldn't die of will kill you. Thats what they call opportunistic illnesses / diseases. And it's the same thing with covid or at least similar results. Yes these people probably died drop another illness but the virus itself can increase your chances of catching something such as pneumonia. And the virus does negatively affect your respiratory system. I get your point but it's not entirely true.
You don't understand math. Let me simplify.
2017,2018, 2019 2. 85 million people died of all causes in the US.
That is a simplification, all right. The only number I could verify was that for 2017. In each of 2018 and 2019, the rate increased by about 1. 5%. In 2020, which hasn't even ended yey, it if forecast to increase by 20% due to -- drumroll please. The effeects of Covid 19. My source:
https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/12/health/us-deaths-covid-19-pandemic-jama-study/index.html
There are other sources that verify these numbers, but I could find NONE that show a steady death rate of 2. 85 million in each and every one of the last four years.
Oh, and I was a math major. One of the things they taught us was that you cannot make up statistics or announce hard totals, to two decimal places of accuracy for events that are still ongoing.
There is one person dying of Covid related causes every 10 minutes in Los Angeles County alone. Its time to pull your head out of the sand.
Not an ignorant statement at all. Nearly 80 percent of all COVID related fatalities are over the age of 70. Some 99 percent of positives under the age of 70 recover. That's fact.
Related, too, is an important fact. Nearly all had co-morbidities; the average number of co-morbidities is 2. 6. These people are dying with COVID, not necessarily of it. And importantly, despite the sharp increase in daily positives, the death rate is essentially flat for the past five months.
It is a harsh virus, no doubt. But it can be far better managed by protecting those at greatest risk, not by shutting down every aspect of society.
The places of greatest risk? A grocery store at 5 pm All the best. Wear a damn mask in public, if for no other reason, don't be rude. Wash your damn hands.
And may King rest in peace.
Very well said.
We don't agree on much but we do on this.
Indeed, well said
A2For clarification, I was mainly agreeing with the last three sentences of Allen981's post, which speaks of balance. Those first sentences have merit as well, but are harsh statistics and don't delve into the huge gray areas of the Covid mess. These back and forth fact-slamming posts on this thread reveal but a microbe of the real picture.
Deaths of all causes in a population of 330,000,000 people isn't a microbe of the real pictures, it's the entire picture and there is literally no rational argument to deny the importance of it.
A2
That is a simplification, all right. The only number I could verify was that for 2017. In each of 2018 and 2019, the rate increased by about 1. 5%. In 2020, which hasn't even ended yey, it if forecast to increase by 20% due to -- drumroll please. The effeects of Covid 19. My source:
https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/12/health/us-deaths-covid-19-pandemic-jama-study/index.html
There are other sources that verify these numbers, but I could find NONE that show a steady death rate of 2. 85 million in each and every one of the last four years.
Oh, and I was a math major. One of the things they taught us was that you cannot make up statistics or announce hard totals, to two decimal places of accuracy for events that are still ongoing.
There is one person dying of Covid related causes every 10 minutes in Los Angeles County alone. Its time to pull your head out of the sand.Mine is the CDC.
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/deaths.htm
Right at the very top of the page.
Deaths and Mortality.
Data are for the USA.
Death rate: 867.8 deaths per 100,000 population.
330,000,000 people in the US.
867.8 deaths per 100,000 people is drumroll please:
2,863,740 people.
A 20% increase in deaths in the US would mean that 3,436,488 (your numbers, not the CDC) people need to die in 2020 to make that true.
Deaths from all causes as of today? (Again, the CDC not CNN).
2,851,438.
Yes the count lags, it will be a little higher this year, 6% of the 300,000 actually died of not with covid (again from the CDC) so that means there were about 20,000 that died from covid and covid alone. It will however not get anywhere near 3,436,488.
Did they talk about using sympathetic sources to cherry pick your data in your math classes? Covid related deaths means they have covid and 94% of the have nearly three of these illnesses or conditions. Not one of these, not two of them but an average of 2. 9 of them and 91% of them were over the age of 55 so as I keep saying and you keep ignoring, they can CLASSIFY as many deaths as they wish as covid but the FACT is that 91% of the people who died from covid were elderly and very sick BEFORE they got covid and the FACT that many of them were going to die this year is reflected in the lack of more dead bodies when you look at all deaths from all causes.
(yes I know, I've posted this before but these team lockdown assholes simply ignore it).
Cancer.
Chronic kidney disease.
COPD (chronic obstructive pulmonary disease).
Heart conditions, such as heart failure, coronary artery disease, or cardiomyopathies.
Immunocompromised state (weakened immune system) from solid organ transplant.
Obesity (body mass index BMI of 30 kg / m2 or higher but < 40 kg / m2).
Severe Obesity (BMI ≥ 40 kg / m2).
Pregnancy.
Sickle cell disease.
Smoking.
Type 2 diabetes mellitus.
Asthma (moderate-to-severe).
Cerebrovascular disease (affects blood vessels and blood supply to the brain).
Cystic fibrosis.
Hypertension or high blood pressure.
Immunocompromised state (weakened immune system) from blood or bone marrow transplant, immune deficiencies, HIV, use of corticosteroids, or use of other immune weakening medicines.
Neurologic conditions, such as dementia.
Liver disease.
Overweight (BMI 25 kg / m2, but < 30 kg / m2).
Pulmonary fibrosis (having damaged or scarred lung tissues).
Thalassemia (a type of blood disorder).
Type 1 diabetes mellitus.
First off don't use aids in this analogy because you are ill informed. Yes aids doesn't kill you but if weakens your immune system enough so that what you normally wouldn't die of will kill you. Thats what they call opportunistic illnesses / diseases. And it's the same thing with covid or at least similar results. Yes these people probably died drop another illness but the virus itself can increase your chances of catching something such as pneumonia. And the virus does negatively affect your respiratory system. I get your point but it's not entirely true.91% were over the age of 55 and 94% of them had an average of 2. 9 of the diseases listed in the post below which they had BEFORE they become covid positive. Covid didn't reduce their immune system and make the susceptible to catching something, they had an average of 2. 9 life threatening conditions BEFORE covid. That is entirely, 100% no shit, not massaging the data true.
No Covid is not nothing, and I live in a country where the medical system could actually be over run, I'm happy to wear a mask anytime I'm in public, I also sanitize my hands when I enter any public building. Everybody in the country is doing that and it still is not stopping covid, you can't stop a virus with a R0 greater than 2 it can't be done. Yes, I know, New Zealand it's a friggen Island and they had the worst economic contraction the country has ever had.
400,000,000 lives had been destroyed worldwide with the first round of lockdowns and now they are doing it again. I don't think the covidiots will be satisfied until they destroy a billion lives.
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/04/09/coronavirus-could-push-half-a-billion-people-into-poverty-globally.html
That's 5% of the entire population of the planet that has been forced into extreme poverty, 5% of the whole world. I don't know how people can keep ignoring that.
Mine is the CDC.
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/deaths.htm
Right at the very top of the page.Did you even read your own source? It is clearly labeled "1999-2019. " If you want to make a statistical argument about Covid, at least use 2020 data, you know, the year that Covid actually appeared.
91% were over the age of 55 and 94% of them had an average of 2. 9 of the diseases listed in the post below which they had BEFORE they become covid positive. Covid didn't reduce their immune system and make the susceptible to catching something, they had an average of 2. 9 life threatening conditions BEFORE covid. That is entirely, 100% no shit, not massaging the data true.
No Covid is not nothing, and I live in a country where the medical system could actually be over run, I'm happy to wear a mask anytime I'm in public, I also sanitize my hands when I enter any public building. Everybody in the country is doing that and it still is not stopping covid, you can't stop a virus with a R0 greater than 2 it can't be done. Yes, I know, New Zealand it's a friggen Island and they had the worst economic contraction the country has ever had.
400,000,000 lives had been destroyed worldwide with the first round of lockdowns and now they are doing it again. I don't think the covidiots will be satisfied until they destroy a billion lives.
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/04/09/coronavirus-could-push-half-a-billion-people-into-poverty-globally.html
That's 5% of the entire population of the planet that has been forced into extreme poverty, 5% of the whole world. I don't know how people can keep ignoring that.To put it mildly, the U.S. Government fucked up its response to the COVID-19 pandemic. This administration from day one was at war with the science. Let's look at how South Korea has handled the COVID pandemic. It's hard not to be impressed by the way the South Korean government and people confronted a choice the citizens of Western countries were frequently told was unavoidable between economy-shattering lockdowns and appalling viral casualties they resolved to accept neither option. South Korea instead deployed mandatory masking, strict social distancing measures, VIGOROUS testing / contact tracing protocols, all in the service of a simple goal: to keep society functioning. And for the most part, it has worked. South Korea, so far has had 500 deaths from COVID-19 and the country's economy continues to grow.
Note: Both South Korea and the U.S. announced their first index case of COVID infection on the same day. Almost 9 months later South Korea has had 500 deaths from COVID-19 compared to 330,000 dead from COVID-19 in the U.S.
https://www.bloomberg.com/features/2020-south-korea-covid-strategy/
The funny thing is people want to be 'technically correct" but WRONG at the same time. COVID is a serious illness and no one wants to put an I'd / chip in you. (At least not yet, looks at Elon Musk). No one here cares what you DIE from, if it lowers your chances of dying from other illness then that's a problem.
To put it mildly, the U.S. Government fucked up its response to the COVID-19 pandemic. This administration from day one was at war with the science. Let's look at how South Korea has handled the COVID pandemic. It's hard not to be impressed by the way the South Korean government and people confronted a choice the citizens of Western countries were frequently told was unavoidable between economy-shattering lockdowns and appalling viral casualties they resolved to accept neither option. South Korea instead deployed mandatory masking, strict social distancing measures, VIGOROUS testing / contact tracing protocols, all in the service of a simple goal: to keep society functioning. And for the most part, it has worked. South Korea, so far has had 500 deaths from COVID-19 and the country's economy continues to grow.
Note: Both South Korea and the U.S. announced their first index case of COVID infection on the same day. Almost 9 months later South Korea has had 500 deaths from COVID-19 compared to 330,000 dead from COVID-19 in the U.S.
https://www.bloomberg.com/features/2020-south-korea-covid-strategy/
To put it mildly, the U.S. Government fucked up its response to the COVID-19 pandemic. This administration from day one was at war with the science. Let's look at how South Korea has handled the COVID pandemic. It's hard not to be impressed by the way the South Korean government and people confronted a choice the citizens of Western countries were frequently told was unavoidable between economy-shattering lockdowns and appalling viral casualties they resolved to accept neither option. South Korea instead deployed mandatory masking, strict social distancing measures, VIGOROUS testing / contact tracing protocols, all in the service of a simple goal: to keep society functioning. And for the most part, it has worked. South Korea, so far has had 500 deaths from COVID-19 and the country's economy continues to grow.
Note: Both South Korea and the U.S. announced their first index case of COVID infection on the same day. Almost 9 months later South Korea has had 500 deaths from COVID-19 compared to 330,000 dead from COVID-19 in the U.S.
https://www.bloomberg.com/features/2020-south-korea-covid-strategy/I can't stand Trump either but the entire point is people like you are blowing up the 300,000 number when in fact 280,000 of the 300,000 were elderly, very sick, and going to die with or without covid. Stop destroying the world's economy because you don't like Trump.
A2.
Did you even read your own source? It is clearly labeled "1999-2019. " If you want to make a statistical argument about Covid, at least use 2020 data, you know, the year that Covid actually appeared.You said:
There are other sources that verify these numbers, but I could find NONE that show a steady death rate of 2. 85 million in each and every one of the last four years.When I said "the same number of people are dying in 2020 as died in the last 3 years," You said you could find no source to show a steady death rate of 2. 85 million so I gave you one that is unassailable.
Now is when you say, "oh, ok, I was wrong. ".
There's no shame in learning something new. You thought something was this, it turned out to be that, now start dealing with the world as it is, not as you thought it was. Covid isn't nothing, but it didn't kill 300,000 extra people, it killed around 20,000 extra people (hence the 94% had an average of 2. 9 of the following illnesses or conditions which I'm sure everybody is tired of seeing) so now you can stop saying that it alone killed 300,000 people because you know better.
Again, there's no shame in having thought one thing, learning something new, then understanding that you had made a mistake and now know better.
A2.
I can't stand Trump either but the entire point is people like you are blowing up the 300,000 number when in fact 280,000 of the 300,000 were elderly, very sick, and going to die with or without covid. Stop destroying the world's economy because you don't like Trump.
A2.Did you even read what I posted? On a comparative basis, South Korea, China, New Zealand and Australia to a lesser extent allowed the "science" to dictate their response to the COVID pandemic WITHOUT totally shutting down their economies and they have achieved much better economic/health outcomes than the U.S.
I don't think the covidiots will be satisfied until they destroy a billion lives.Covidiots. Cute. When you have nothing intelligent to say, channel your inner Trump.
HobbyMan51
12-27-20, 17:33
I can't stand Trump either but the entire point is people like you are blowing up the 300,000 number when in fact 280,000 of the 300,000 were elderly, very sick, and going to die with or without covid. Stop destroying the world's economy because you don't like Trump.
A2.A2, I don't know why you even try to reason with blind stupid fools like Sgt. George and Bullet. They would destroy the entire planet just to attempt to prove their stupid, incorrect talking points, something that they are well on their way to accomplishing. I respect your attempt but it is useless with these brain-dead anarchists. To both of them: You "defeated" the big bad orange man. Now the true hell is about to begin. You started it. [Deleted by Admin]
I appreciate the sentiment but I said a long time ago, there will be no threats tolerated on this forum as a result of the election.
To be clear, you and yours will not be "finishing" anything. The elections were certified by 50 different state governments, controlled by a mix of both red and blue parties, the Supreme Court with a 6-3 conservative majority declined to hear the "cases" brought before it to "prove" election fraud. On Jan 20th a new president will be sworn in and the Donald Trump will go back to being a private citizen again.
You can take solace in knowing that he will launch both his media company and his reelection campaign while Biden is being sworn in and for the next four years you can post nasty shit about Biden.
A2
RedneckStud
12-27-20, 17:47
You said:
When I said "the same number of people are dying in 2020 as died in the last 3 years," You said you could find no source to show a steady death rate of 2. 85 million so I gave you one that is unassailable.
Now is when you say, "oh, ok, I was wrong. ".
There's no shame in learning something new. You thought something was this, it turned out to be that, now start dealing with the world as it is, not as you thought it was. Covid isn't nothing, but it didn't kill 300,000 extra people, it killed around 20,000 extra people (hence the 94% had an average of 2. 9 of the following illnesses or conditions which I'm sure everybody is tired of seeing) so now you can stop saying that it alone killed 300,000 people because you know better.
Again, there's no shame in having thought one thing, learning something new, then understanding that you had made a mistake and now know better.
A2.Let me know if you learned something.
https://www.statnews.com/2020/10/20/cdc-data-excess-deaths-covid-19/
AllTheTime
12-27-20, 18:26
Let me know if you learned something.
https://www.statnews.com/2020/10/20/cdc-data-excess-deaths-covid-19/Thank you; I'm so sick of the Covidiots with their "don't confuse me with the facts, my mind is made up" attitude.
Though I am surprised A2 took the time away from his usual admonishments on how we should think about those in the adult industry (except him, of course).
I can't stand Trump either but the entire point is people like you are blowing up the 300,000 number when in fact 280,000 of the 300,000 were elderly, very sick, and going to die with or without covid. Stop destroying the world's economy because you don't like Trump.
A2.Your statement "in fact 280,000 of the 300,000 were elderly, very sick, and going to die with or without covid" is absolutely wrong. I hardly come to your fucking site anymore, too many fucking racist pigs and ignorant trolling this place.
I have very close family person died of covid, just 48 years and very active and physically fit. The other 4 members of the same family have almost no symptoms this person was gone in 3 days. My next door 56 years old neighbor was in ICU for one weeks. It is true that majority on the casualty of covid had exiting problems but lot of young people died too. You will see lot of young people on this list if you go through data. I guess you don't have time to look through any site since you have to manage this site.
You can ban me for life and ask me if I give a shit.
The article shows that that the 300,000 excess deaths are most likely NOT due to COVID.
Take note of the last paragraph in the article: "There were also differences among different age groups, with the largest increase occurring among people age 25 to 44, who saw excess deaths that were 26.5% higher than average. People 45 to 64 had 14.4% more deaths, while those 65 to 74 had 24.1% more deaths. Deaths among people 75 to 84 were 21.5% higher and 14.7% higher for people 85 and above".
Now take a look at this chart of distribution of COVID deaths by age:
https://cdn.aarp.net/content/dam/aarp/health/conditions_treatments/2020/10/1140-covid-cases-deaths-by-age.imgcache.rev.web.900.518.jpg
Those distributions DO NOT MATCH.
Let me know if you learned something.
https://www.statnews.com/2020/10/20/cdc-data-excess-deaths-covid-19/
HobbyMan51
12-27-20, 22:05
Thank you; I'm so sick of the Covidiots with their "don't confuse me with the facts, my mind is made up" attitude.
Though I am surprised A2 took the time away from his usual admonishments on how we should think about those in the adult industry (except him, of course).A2 took the time because he is right. Some of you would do well to consider his facts rather than the lies that Fauci, the media, CDC, and the WHO spoon feed to you every day. But of course, you won't. Your mind has been made up a long time ago. We changed our minds some months ago as the real facts and the real truths came out. You and others refuse to see them yet you admonish us for our made up minds? Such Pharisees. Live blind and stay proudly ignorant.
MTWilliams911
12-27-20, 23:53
https://townhall.com/columnists/scottmorefield/2020/12/21/new-study-shows-mask-mandates-had-zero-effect-in-florida-or-nationwide-but-the-l-n2581879
Your statement "in fact 280,000 of the 300,000 were elderly, very sick, and going to die with or without covid" is absolutely wrong. I hardly come to your fucking site anymore, too many fucking racist pigs and ignorant trolling this place.
I have very close family person died of covid, just 48 years and very active and physically fit. The other 4 members of the same family have almost no symptoms this person was gone in 3 days. My next door 56 years old neighbor was in ICU for one weeks. It is true that majority on the casualty of covid had exiting problems but lot of young people died too. You will see lot of young people on this list if you go through data. I guess you don't have time to look through any site since you have to manage this site.
You can ban me for life and ask me if I give a shit.It's not my statement, its directly from the CDC's web site, https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid_weekly/index.htm since I know you won't look I'll post the numbers here, I have spent a lot of time looking at their data.
Total deaths with Covid as of today, 291,757.
Under 1 year 31.
1-4 years 18.
5-14 years 50.
15-24 years 468.
25-34 years 2,041.
35-44 years 5,298.
45-54 years 14,124 total under age 55: 22,030 which is 7.55%.
I know 14,124 seems like a lot but when compared to the total number of people of these ages who have died it's not really. 205,203 people have died between the ages of 0 and 54 in the US so far this year. 14,124 died with covid and remember 94% of those 14,124 had an average of 2. 9 life threatening illnesses as well so of the 205,203 who died of all causes only 850 died with covid as the primary cause. I understand that these are all tragedy's to the people who loved them but not a lot of young people are dying of covid when looked at in the context of the entire population.
55-64 years 34,966.
65-74 years 62,280.
75-84 years 79,724.
Over 85 92,757 Total over age 55: 269,727 which is 92.45%.
Also from the same site "For 6% of the deaths, COVID-19 was the only cause mentioned. For deaths with conditions or causes in addition to COVID-19, on average, there were 2. 9 additional conditions or causes per death. ".
92.45% of the people who have died with covid were over the age of 55 and 94% of them had an average of 2. 9 life threatening diseases so I believe the conclusion that the vast majority were elderly and very sick is true.
Again, I'm sorry for your loss and perhaps your thoughts on covid are seen through that lens. Best of thoughts to you and your family during what must be a difficult holiday season.
A2.
P.S. I wouldn't ban you for disagreeing with me on a fight thread.
Let me know if you learned something.
https://www.statnews.com/2020/10/20/cdc-data-excess-deaths-covid-19/I didn't because I have seen that before and I still have the same question.
If the mortality rate for the US over the last ten years has been 867.8 per 100,000 people https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/deaths.htm which works out to 2,863,740 dead people for 2020.
When the average mortality rate plus 300,000 excess deaths would mean 3,163,740 yet only a total of 2,851,438 have died as of December 27th perhaps you could explain to me what I'm supposed to learn from that article.
I know the article you posted said that there were 300,000 excess deaths, and I know that article quoted an article from somebody at the CDC saying that there were 300,000 excess deaths can explain why there are not 300,000 excess deaths in the CDC's running count? It's really kind of at the center of what I don't understand and it really bugs me. No shit Stud if you could explain that to me I'd stop posting this shit. I was talking to a real live epidemiologist about it once and all he told me was that I lacked the training to understand the "epidemiological glue" (I'm not making that up) that held these numbers together. I freely admit that I do not have the training to put these kinds of graphs together but I did pass elementary school so I can add and subtract and I asked him again to explain, in the most rudimentary manner possible and he said "less traffic accidents" so I looked, according to the agency that watches them traffic fatalities are down 3% which is great but only 38,000 people die a year in accidents so that's only 1000 people. When I said that to him he sort of lost it and told me that I lacked the training to even ask the question.
When you tell me that 300,000 more people died yet the projected number at the beginning of the year is exactly what has died at the end I have to ask where the extra 300,000 are? Can you tell me? If you can't, perhaps you can tell me if you learned anything from learning that there appears to be a pretty big discrepancy.
Masks exposed as a joke. https://townhall.com/columnists/scottmorefield/2020/12/21/new-study-shows-mask-mandates-had-zero-effect-in-florida-or-nationwide-but-the-l-n2581879Here’s a thought, the next time you're in surgery, please ask your operating Surgeon, Consulting Doctor, Surgery room Nurse and Anesthetist NOT to wear medical masks or medical gloves. Also, while you're at it, insist they use unsterilized instruments. Your after surgery health outcome should be very interesting. Wear a damn mask!
MTWilliams911
12-28-20, 09:33
Heres a thought, the next time you're in surgery, please ask your operating Surgeon, Consulting Doctor, Surgery room Nurse and Anesthetist NOT to wear medical masks or medical gloves. Also, while you're at it, insist they use unsterilized instruments. Your after surgery health outcome should be very interesting. Wear a damn mask!I do not have to ask a doctor. I am a doctor.
Transmission of bacteria in the OR is a completely different issue than an airborne virus and non-certified cloth masks.
Peer reviewed publications show commonly used cloth masks only stop a tiny percentage of airborne viruses.
We should probably throw some virgins in a volcano to stop the spread. Probably as effective as the hysterical "shut down everything" and "wear masks" superstitious crowd.
Florida is largely open. California largely closed. Difference in spread rate is statistically not different.
RedneckStud
12-28-20, 10:23
I didn't because I have seen that before and I still have the same question.
If the mortality rate for the US over the last ten years has been 867.8 per 100,000 people https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/deaths.htm which works out to 2,863,740 dead people for 2020.
When the average mortality rate plus 300,000 excess deaths would mean 3,163,740 yet only a total of 2,851,438 have died as of December 27th perhaps you could explain to me what I'm supposed to learn from that article.
I know the article you posted said that there were 300,000 excess deaths, and I know that article quoted an article from somebody at the CDC saying that there were 300,000 excess deaths can explain why there are not 300,000 excess deaths in the CDC's running count? It's really kind of at the center of what I don't understand and it really bugs me. No shit Stud if you could explain that to me I'd stop posting this shit. I was talking to a real live epidemiologist about it once and all he told me was that I lacked the training to understand the "epidemiological glue" (I'm not making that up) that held these numbers together. I freely admit that I do not have the training to put these kinds of graphs together but I did pass elementary school so I can add and subtract and I asked him again to explain, in the most rudimentary manner possible and he said "less traffic accidents" so I looked, according to the agency that watches them traffic fatalities are down 3% which is great but only 38,000 people die a year in accidents so that's only 1000 people. When I said that to him he sort of lost it and told me that I lacked the training to even ask the question.
When you tell me that 300,000 more people died yet the projected number at the beginning of the year is exactly what has died at the end I have to ask where the extra 300,000 are? Can you tell me? If you can't, perhaps you can tell me if you learned anything from learning that there appears to be a pretty big discrepancy.Where are you getting your 2,851,438 figure?
RedneckStud
12-28-20, 10:44
I didn't because I have seen that before and I still have the same question.
If the mortality rate for the US over the last ten years has been 867.8 per 100,000 people https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/deaths.htm which works out to 2,863,740 dead people for 2020.
When the average mortality rate plus 300,000 excess deaths would mean 3,163,740 yet only a total of 2,851,438 have died as of December 27th perhaps you could explain to me what I'm supposed to learn from that article.
I know the article you posted said that there were 300,000 excess deaths, and I know that article quoted an article from somebody at the CDC saying that there were 300,000 excess deaths can explain why there are not 300,000 excess deaths in the CDC's running count? It's really kind of at the center of what I don't understand and it really bugs me. No shit Stud if you could explain that to me I'd stop posting this shit. I was talking to a real live epidemiologist about it once and all he told me was that I lacked the training to understand the "epidemiological glue" (I'm not making that up) that held these numbers together. I freely admit that I do not have the training to put these kinds of graphs together but I did pass elementary school so I can add and subtract and I asked him again to explain, in the most rudimentary manner possible and he said "less traffic accidents" so I looked, according to the agency that watches them traffic fatalities are down 3% which is great but only 38,000 people die a year in accidents so that's only 1000 people. When I said that to him he sort of lost it and told me that I lacked the training to even ask the question.
When you tell me that 300,000 more people died yet the projected number at the beginning of the year is exactly what has died at the end I have to ask where the extra 300,000 are? Can you tell me? If you can't, perhaps you can tell me if you learned anything from learning that there appears to be a pretty big discrepancy.You can go to this CDC website and download the spreadsheet for deaths by week / cause / state / USA and total up all the deaths for 2019 and through 12/12/20.
https://data.cdc.gov/NCHS/Weekly-Counts-of-Deaths-by-State-and-Select-Causes/muzy-jte6/data
I'll summarize it for you. Totals for USA in 2019 was 2,852,609. Through 12/12/2020 totals are 3,073,009. Deaths for the first two weeks of December were 99,645. See if you can use that elementary education to extrapolate what the total deaths will be through the end of 2020. Then use that fancy subtraction thing to get the difference.
Did you learn anything?
I do not have to ask a doctor. I am a doctor.
Transmission of bacteria in the OR is a completely different issue than an airborne virus and non-certified cloth masks.
Peer reviewed publications show commonly used cloth masks only stop a tiny percentage of airborne viruses.
We should probably throw some virgins in a volcano to stop the spread. Probably as effective as the hysterical "shut down everything" and "wear masks" superstitious crowd.
Florida is largely open. California largely closed. Difference in spread rate is statistically not different.Let me guess, you are either a Chiropractor or a Proctologist? Hmmm, you use Florida as an example, Florida Governor DeSantis has purposely suppressed numbers of COVID cases and deaths in his state.
Secrecy and spin: How Floridas governor misled the public on the COVID-19 pandemic
Throughout the COVID-19 crisis in Florida, Gov. Ron DeSantis administration engaged in a pattern of spin and concealment that misled the public on the gravest health threat the state has ever faced, a South Florida Sun Sentinel investigation has found.
DeSantis, who owes his job to early support from President Donald Trump, imposed an approach in line with the views of the president and his powerful base of supporters. The administration suppressed unfavorable facts, dispensed dangerous misinformation, dismissed public health professionals, and promoted the views of scientific dissenters who supported the governors approach to the disease.
https://www.sun-sentinel.com/coronavirus/fl-ne-coronavirus-florida-desantis-spin-ss-prem-20201203-tyjmgkos6bd7vo7vnripqliany-htmlstory.html
Theres more, Florida Governor DeSantis, sent his goons to the home of a former Florida department of Health employee for refusing to manipulate State COVID data.
Florida State police brandishing firearms Monday raided the Tallahassee home of Rebekah Jones, the former Department of Health employee*who built the state's much-praised COVID-19 dashboard before being fired over what she said was refusing to "manipulate data."
"They pointed a gun in my face. They pointed*guns at my kids," Jones tweeted shortly before*5 p.m.*
Jones who launched her own COVID-19 dashboard after she was fired, and used crowdsourcing to raise money to support it said the agents knocked on her door*around 8:30 a.m. that*morning, took all her "hardware and tech" after showing her a warrant based on a complaint filed by*the Florida Department of Health.*
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2020/12/11/rebekah-jones-fired-florida-covid-19-data-chief-speaks-out-after-raid/3893165001/
Sgt Lurker
12-28-20, 11:34
The COVID virus is so tiny it passes right through all but truly medical masks but that is as un-politically correct as when I was in command in the Army in the mid-90's I opposed the community health nurse just telling my soldiers to use a condom when the HIV virus passed through over 90% of the cheap brands of condoms. Remember the HIV pandemic of the early 80's? It was running most rampant among the gay community and drug users but they would not be honest because it was discriminating against the gays.
Let me guess, you are either a chiropractor or a proctologist? Hmmm, you use Florida as an example, Florida Governor DeSantis has purposely suppressed numbers of COVID cases and deaths in his state.
Secrecy and spin: How Floridas governor misled the public on the COVID-19 pandemic
Throughout the COVID-19 crisis in Florida, Gov. Ron DeSantis administration engaged in a pattern of spin and concealment that misled the public on the gravest health threat the state has ever faced, a South Florida Sun Sentinel investigation has found.
DeSantis, who owes his job to early support from President Donald Trump, imposed an approach in line with the views of the president and his powerful base of supporters. The administration suppressed unfavorable facts, dispensed dangerous misinformation, dismissed public health professionals, and promoted the views of scientific dissenters who supported the governors approach to the disease.
https://www.sun-sentinel.com/coronavirus/fl-ne-coronavirus-florida-desantis-spin-ss-prem-20201203-tyjmgkos6bd7vo7vnripqliany-htmlstory.html
The COVID virus is so tiny it passes right through all but truly medical masks but that is as un-politically correct as when I was in command in the Army in the mid-90's I opposed the community health nurse just telling my soldiers to use a condom when the HIV virus passed through over 90% of the cheap brands of condoms. Remember the HIV pandemic of the early 80's? It was running most rampant among the gay community and drug users but they would not be honest because it was discriminating against the gays.I will take the advice of the Public Health professionals.
CDC recommends that people wear masks in public settings, like on public and mass transportation, at events and gatherings, and anywhere they will be around other people.
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/prevent-getting-sick/about-face-coverings.html
World Health Organization WHO recommends Masks should be used as part of a comprehensive strategy of measures to suppress transmission and save lives; the use of a mask alone is not sufficient to provide an adequate level of protection against COVID-19.
https://www.who.int/emergencies/diseases/novel-coronavirus-2019/advice-for-public/when-and-how-to-use-masks.
Game Cock Too
12-28-20, 12:49
The COVID virus is so tiny it passes right through all but truly medical masks but that is as un-politically correct as when I was in command in the Army in the mid-90's I opposed the community health nurse just telling my soldiers to use a condom when the HIV virus passed through over 90% of the cheap brands of condoms. Remember the HIV pandemic of the early 80's? It was running most rampant among the gay community and drug users but they would not be honest because it was discriminating against the gays.This debate will never end. Who cares if someone claims to be a doctor. Having worked with doctors for many, many years I've learned that having an MD behind a name doesn't make someone the smartest person in the world. Doctors have differing opinions ALL of the time, and can and will interpret data differently ALL of the time. Look at Fauci versus Scott Atlas. Malpractice cases involve doctors questioning others doctors regarding why they prescribed a certain treatment or procedure that caused harm. And numbers can be manipulate to prove anyone's point of view.
Has anyone been inside of a COVID ward? Some of us would definitely change their mind if you had the chance to see what is taking place. We all really need to start reviewing data from all sources and not from just a conservative or liberal publication. I have many friends who have had COVID. Here's the thing: Their symptoms ranged from asymptomatic to death. The 300,000+ deaths are the documented cases. How many deaths are undocumented COVID-related deaths that could possibly increase that number? One of the biggest issues is asymptomatic spreading, which undermines the mask debate. If COVID had visual indicators regardless of severity, like the chicken pox or leprosy, I can almost guarantee that most of us would stay away from that person or choose a mask.
It IS true that majority of us will not die from COVID, but I'm not a fan of the Russian Roulette characteristics of this disease. Out of the 35+ people diagnosed associated with the White House, only Herman Cain passed? What is true is that there are some post-COVID morbidities that can last for who knows how long. One of the neurologist at a Georgia medical college is collecting the morbidity data from documented case. Her warning to me was, You do NOT want to catch THIS disease. I have one friend who STILL hasn't been able to smell since March.
I will take the advice of the Public Health professionals.
CDC recommends that people wear masks in public settings, like on public and mass transportation, at events and gatherings, and anywhere they will be around other people.
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/prevent-getting-sick/about-face-coverings.html
World Health Organization WHO recommends Masks should be used as part of a comprehensive strategy of measures to suppress transmission and save lives; the use of a mask alone is not sufficient to provide an adequate level of protection against COVID-19.
https://www.who.int/emergencies/diseases/novel-coronavirus-2019/advice-for-public/when-and-how-to-use-masks.Most of us on this site are are part time Gynecologists are we not.
Most of us on this site are are part time Gynecologists are we not.I've personally been a freelance gynecologist for over 40 years. Some on this thread who suggest to have medical knowledge are, at best, a veterinarian or Ph. D. As for medical expertise? Quite laughable. This here thread has become a comedy skit as of late.
Most of us on this site are are part time Gynecologists are we not.True dat!....lol
You can go to this CDC website and download the spreadsheet for deaths by week / cause / state / USA and total up all the deaths for 2019 and through 12/12/20.
https://data.cdc.gov/NCHS/Weekly-Counts-of-Deaths-by-State-and-Select-Causes/muzy-jte6/data
I'll summarize it for you. Totals for USA in 2019 was 2,852,609. Through 12/12/2020 totals are 3,073,009. Deaths for the first two weeks of December were 99,645. See if you can use that elementary education to extrapolate what the total deaths will be through the end of 2020. Then use that fancy subtraction thing to get the difference.
Did you learn anything?It's right here, on one page, clear as a bell, not 10,000 pages with 40 lines just for Alabama. Its not 3,073,069 it's 2,851,438 well not actually, it's going to be more because the count lags but unless 300,000 people die this week it's going to be 2. 85 million and change, same as last year, same as 2018, same as 2017, same as 2016.
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid_weekly/index.htm
I know you didn't learn anything because you just keep refusing to look at the chart and keep saying the same wrong shit over and over. I understand, you picked the incorrect narrative and you're having a hard time admitting it. But the numbers are what they are, there are no extra deaths end of story.
I'm sure as a doctor, you appreciate the difference between "airborne" viruses versus those transmitted in liquid particles. As part of your medical training in virology, you'll also remember the difference in size of viral particles versus those of liquid particles and therefore the transmission through masks. Or not as the case may be.
I do not have to ask a doctor. I am a doctor.
Transmission of bacteria in the OR is a completely different issue than an airborne virus and non-certified cloth masks.
Peer reviewed publications show commonly used cloth masks only stop a tiny percentage of airborne viruses.
We should probably throw some virgins in a volcano to stop the spread. Probably as effective as the hysterical "shut down everything" and "wear masks" superstitious crowd.
Florida is largely open. California largely closed. Difference in spread rate is statistically not different.
The viral "particles" are in fact orders of magnitude smaller than the gaps in the fabric of masks. However, CV19 isn't airborne. It doesn't just float about the place. It is transmitted attached to liquid droplets from coughing, sneezing or simply breathing moist air. The liquid droplets are much larger and typically are constrained from passing through masks. In or out. To a large extent.
Science experiment. Put a mask on and try to spit on someone six feet away.
The COVID virus is so tiny it passes right through all but truly medical masks but that is as un-politically correct as when I was in command in the Army in the mid-90's I opposed the community health nurse just telling my soldiers to use a condom when the HIV virus passed through over 90% of the cheap brands of condoms. Remember the HIV pandemic of the early 80's? It was running most rampant among the gay community and drug users but they would not be honest because it was discriminating against the gays.
Sgt Lurker
12-29-20, 00:32
The viral "particles" are in fact orders of magnitude smaller than the gaps in the fabric of masks. However, CV19 isn't airborne. It doesn't just float about the place. It is transmitted attached to liquid droplets from coughing, sneezing or simply breathing moist air. The liquid droplets are much larger and typically are constrained from passing through masks. In or out. To a large extent.
Science experiment. Put a mask on and try to spit on someone six feet away.Tell it to the very people who wore the masks religiously and still contracted COVID.
This debate will never end. Who cares if someone claims to be a doctor. Having worked with doctors for many, many years I've learned that having an MD behind a name doesn't make someone the smartest person in the world. Doctors have differing opinions ALL of the time, and can and will interpret data differently ALL of the time. Look at Fauci versus Scott Atlas. Malpractice cases involve doctors questioning others doctors regarding why they prescribed a certain treatment or procedure that caused harm. And numbers can be manipulate to prove anyone's point of view.
Has anyone been inside of a COVID ward? Some of us would definitely change their mind if you had the chance to see what is taking place. We all really need to start reviewing data from all sources and not from just a conservative or liberal publication. I have many friends who have had COVID. Here's the thing: Their symptoms ranged from asymptomatic to death. The 300,000+ deaths are the documented cases. How many deaths are undocumented COVID-related deaths that could possibly increase that number? One of the biggest issues is asymptomatic spreading, which undermines the mask debate. If COVID had visual indicators regardless of severity, like the chicken pox or leprosy, I can almost guarantee that most of us would stay away from that person or choose a mask.
It IS true that majority of us will not die from COVID, but I'm not a fan of the Russian Roulette characteristics of this disease. Out of the 35+ people diagnosed associated with the White House, only Herman Cain passed? What is true is that there are some post-COVID morbidities that can last for who knows how long. One of the neurologist at a Georgia medical college is collecting the morbidity data from documented case. Her warning to me was, You do NOT want to catch THIS disease. I have one friend who STILL hasn't been able to smell since March.A death and another had their foot amputated after being in an induced coma. Don't forget they got top flight cutting edge medicine that we can't get. All while telling people that nothings wrong. A better question for the message board doctors would be, why are the same politicians that are telling the public to not be scared and there's nothing to worry about rushing to the front of the vaccine line. Most of them are younger than our most fervent anti maskers here as well.
RedneckStud
12-29-20, 08:14
It's right here, on one page, clear as a bell, not 10,000 pages with 40 lines just for Alabama. Its not 3,073,069 it's 2,851,438 well not actually, it's going to be more because the count lags but unless 300,000 people die this week it's going to be 2. 85 million and change, same as last year, same as 2018, same as 2017, same as 2016.
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid_weekly/index.htm
I know you didn't learn anything because you just keep refusing to look at the chart and keep saying the same wrong shit over and over. I understand, you picked the incorrect narrative and you're having a hard time admitting it. But the numbers are what they are, there are no extra deaths end of story.You're thumbnail doesn't have the title of the table. Take a look again. It says from 2/1/2020. It's missing data from January.
Talk about someone that wants to stay in their narrative and not learn something!
BobSugarSmith
12-29-20, 08:39
Most of us on this site are are part time Gynecologists are we notCaught me off guard during this on going argument. Thanks for the laugh.
Would be delighted to tell them that. Care to provide any names or data to back up your comment?
This is akin to saying. I got an STD even though I religiously wear a rubber.
Except that one time. At the gangbang. Apart from that. Religiously.
Tell it to the very people who wore the masks religiously and still contracted COVID.
Tell it to the very people who wore the masks religiously and still contracted COVID.No-one ever claimed that masks are perfect at stopping the transmission of the virus, but they are FAR, FAR superior than not wearing one at all in preventing its spread. They would be even better if a greater percentage of the population wore them. And they must be worn correctly. Those who have them over their mouths with their noses exposed do not count as mask-wearers.
Its a pain in the ass to wear one, but a small price to pay to minimize the spread of the virus until enough people are vaccinated to to get this thing under control.
Tell it to the very people who wore the masks religiously and still contracted COVID. Many who refused to a wear a mask and contracted COVID regretted their decision. Here’s a snippet of people posting their regrets.
Mike Pence Regrets Not Wearing Face Mask to Mayo Clinic: 'I Should Have' - Newsweek
May 3, 2020 While Pence admitted regret, he also defended his decision to not wear a mask, saying that he knew he didn't have coronavirus at the time.
COVID-Positive Doc: 'I Didn't Wear a Mask and I Regret It' | MedPage Today
Jul 23, 2020 They said they also suspect their 2-year-old daughter has the virus based on symptoms. "We did not mask while visiting with family because we let our guard down and thought we were safe......
Man who went to party warned people not to be an 'idiot like me' a day before dying of covid-19. Jul 2, 2020 He'd gone out to a party where no one wore masks, his niece Danielle Lopez said, only to learn afterward that someone knowingly attended with the novel coronavirus, apparently reasoning*...
ICU Nurse: Many COVID-19 Patients Regret Not Heeding Warnings : NPR
Nov 12, 2020 What are you seeing when you're walking in to work, right? I mean, are people wearing masks? Do you see social distancing? MOBLEY: Definitely, definitely a lot more need for people to do a lot*...
Texas 24-year-old hospitalized 79 days with coronavirus regrets not wearing mask | WFLA - WFLA.com
Texas 24-year-old hospitalized 79 days with coronavirus regrets not wearing mask. Coronavirus. by : Nexstar Media Wire and CNN Newsource. Posted: Jul 18, 2020
A Message from Rev. John I. Jenkins, C.S.C.: I regret my error of judgment in not wearing a mask | Office of the President | University of Notre Dame
A Message from Rev. John I. Jenkins, C.S.C.: I regret my error of judgment in not wearing a mask. Dear Students, Faculty and Staff,. I know many of you have read about the White House ceremony I recently attended.
Chris Christie Reveals Regrets After Battling COVID-19: 'I Was Wrong To Not Wear A Mask' CBS New York
Oct 15, 2020 I hope that my experience shows my fellow citizens that you should follow CDC guidelines in public no matter where you are and wear a mask to protect yourself and others.
Masks stop coronavirus. Getting AIDS showed me the stupidity of not wearing them. - NBC News
Jul 25, 2020 Image: A frustrated man wearing a mask watches a jovial couple, with no masks ... I also know the feelings of regret, anger and guilt that come with the decision to value free choice above all*...
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Game Cock Too
12-29-20, 11:53
Many who refused to a wear a mask and contracted COVID regretted their decision. Heres a snippet of people posting their regrets.Religiously wearing a mask is virtually impossible. Who wears a mask 24/7? You could come home to an asymptomatic wife or family after wearing a mask religiously ALL DAY, take off your mask, and catch it. While the mouth and nose are still the biggest areas of concern, it's possible to catch it through the eyes as well. When working with COVID patients, the majority of the staff wear a face shield. I probably see less that 1% of people wearing face shields when I'm out in public.
And the debate continues. LOL.
PunkedLife
12-29-20, 14:24
Many who refused to a wear a mask and contracted COVID regretted their decision. Heres a snippet of people posting their regrets.Studies have proven that most regular masks of not all do not protect you from covid. Only an n95 protects you the most and even that I don't believe is 100 percent. In medical settings people wear face shields too tu avoid any splash from things such as coughing. You need to practice social distancing and just avoiding people you don't know. This hobby is very risky especially if you are not a single man and have family. Look what happened to King. When your setting up and participating in gb parties with a bunch of guys and a few girls then you can't act surprised when someone gets the bug. That's an example tailored to people here but think about how many new years parties will be held at private residences and clubs packed full of people. Great way to start off 2021 being stuck in a ventilator. There are real consequences to your actions. My friend whose been out travelling overseas and hobbying just caught the bug. He is doing ok now but from having video chat via WhatsApp with him and seeing his state was concerning. He was hooked up to 4 L of oxygen and his oxygen saturation was still hovering at around 92 or below. He's doing better now but it's not always the case. Plus many people are reporting long term effects from having covid. So I personally don't care about those statistics about the number of deaths that you guys keep reporting. At the end of the day I'm not trying to be any part of any of those statistics.
100% - and this is just a sampling of documented regrets of people who chose not to mask and / or distance that subsequently contracted the virus and. In some cases. Paid the ultimate price.
In contrast, the number of people that "religiously wore masks and contracted COVID" are embarrassingly absent from the public record.
Many who refused to a wear a mask and contracted COVID regretted their decision. Heres a snippet of people posting their regrets.
Studies have proven that most regular masks of not all do not protect you from covid. Only an n95 protects you the most and even that I don't believe is 100 percent. In medical settings people wear face shields too tu avoid any splash from things such as coughing. You need to practice social distancing and just avoiding people you don't know. This hobby is very risky especially if you are not a single man and have family. Look what happened to King. When your setting up and participating in gb parties with a bunch of guys and a few girls then you can't act surprised when someone gets the bug. That's an example tailored to people here but think about how many new years parties will be held at private residences and clubs packed full of people. Great way to start off 2021 being stuck in a ventilator. There are real consequences to your actions. My friend whose been out travelling overseas and hobbying just caught the bug. He is doing ok now but from having video chat via WhatsApp with him and seeing his state was concerning. He was hooked up to 4 L of oxygen and his oxygen saturation was still hovering at around 92 or below. He's doing better now but it's not always the case. Plus many people are reporting long term effects from having covid. So I personally don't care about those statistics about the number of deaths that you guys keep reporting. At the end of the day I'm not trying to be any part of any of those statistics.Bullett states it eloquently, wearing a mask is better than wearing nothing. People, this is not rocket science!
No-one ever claimed that masks are perfect at stopping the transmission of the virus, but they are FAR, FAR superior than not wearing one at all in preventing its spread. They would be even better if a greater percentage of the population wore them. And they must be worn correctly. Those who have them over their mouths with their noses exposed do not count as mask-wearers.
Its a pain in the ass to wear one, but a small price to pay to minimize the spread of the virus until enough people are vaccinated to to get this thing under control.
YeOldHornDawg
12-30-20, 09:40
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9094477/Atlanta-mayor-asks-help-solving-alarming-crime-wave.html
Crime in the atl is out of control!It's astounding they refer to her as a "star" in the same breath they reference the deadliest year in decades for Atlanta.
You're thumbnail doesn't have the title of the table. Take a look again. It says from 2/1/2020. It's missing data from January.
Talk about someone that wants to stay in their narrative and not learn something!It says the week ending 02/01/20 so part of the data from January could be missing.
We will have to wait and see what the total number turns out to be.
Thanks for pointing that out. I don't think it's going to be over 3,000,000 but now we will have to see.
RedneckStud
12-30-20, 12:02
It says the week ending 02/01/20 so part of the data from January could be missing.
We will have to wait and see what the total number turns out to be.
Thanks for pointing that out. I don't think it's going to be over 3,000,000 but now we will have to see.Go to the link I provided. It provides deaths by week for the United States as an aggregate (don't try to sort by date and sum the totals because there will be some duplication). January (which might include some deaths from Dec 2019) had about 240,000 death. The last week of December of this year will probably add another 65,000.
Glad to see you practice what you preach. Have a happy new year and stay away from the covid!
PunkedLife
12-30-20, 12:32
It's obvious, the Atlanta Mayor is not up to job and needs to step aside.What people expect her to do? Put in a cape and fly around stopping crime? Like she could have stopped a stray bullet? But on another note WTF two 16 yr in a hotel together for smdh? Kids trying to be adults. Like how they even book a room? Parents are more to blame than a damn mayor.
PunkedLife
12-30-20, 12:37
Bullett states it eloquently, wearing a mask is better than wearing nothing. People, this is not rocket science!I wasn't stating not to wear masks. I was saying wearing masks already does so little that you might as well not wear anything if you aren't going to do the other more successful actions such as social distancing. Like these new years parties that are going to be occurring. Yes wear a mask but be in a packed bar, club, strip club, etc with a bunch of strangers you don't know where they've been just doesn't make sense.
AllTheTime
12-30-20, 14:12
I do not have to ask a doctor. I am a doctor.
Transmission of bacteria in the OR is a completely different issue than an airborne virus and non-certified cloth masks.
Peer reviewed publications show commonly used cloth masks only stop a tiny percentage of airborne viruses.
We should probably throw some virgins in a volcano to stop the spread. Probably as effective as the hysterical "shut down everything" and "wear masks" superstitious crowd.
Florida is largely open. California largely closed. Difference in spread rate is statistically not different.It doesn't matter who's locked down on paper and who's not -- the reality is that poll and after poll and election results show that for a variety of political and ideological reasons, from 30 to 40 percent of the country simply have not been following anti-COVID procedures; often with the support of local and state governments (in California, your "locked down" state, police chiefs in numerous cities have publicly pledged not to enforce mask and / or lock down statutes).
And that's the problem. If COVID measures were ineffective, then most of the countries in the so-called first world would have the same COVID stats as us. They don't -- despite having the most expensive health care system in the world, and low population density than many countries, the USA Has 4% of the world's population and 20% of the COVID deaths.
It doesn't matter who's locked down on paper and who's not -- the reality is that poll and after poll and election results show that for a variety of political and ideological reasons, from 30 to 40 percent of the country simply have not been following anti-COVID procedures; often with the support of local and state governments (in California, your "locked down" state, police chiefs in numerous cities have publicly pledged not to enforce mask and / or lock down statutes).
And that's the problem. If COVID measures were ineffective, then most of the countries in the so-called first world would have the same COVID stats as us. They don't -- despite having the most expensive health care system in the world, and low population density than many countries, the USA Has 4% of the world's population and 20% of the COVID deaths.He is a Doctor, believe the science.
What people expect her to do? Put in a cape and fly around stopping crime? Like she could have stopped a stray bullet? But on another note WTF two 16 yr in a hotel together for smdh? Kids trying to be adults. Like how they even book a room? Parents are more to blame than a damn mayor.Mayors have the power to institute policies that can control crime rates. For example, one way to understand the reasons behind an uptick in crime rates is to use evidence, data and analysis. Why are crime rates on the up surge? Who is it that's using violence against whom and why? Is it a gang fight? Is it over territory? Is it random? Is it one gang? And then as you find out the basis for that, then you can develop a solution or a response to the actual nature of the problem.
He is a Doctor, believe the science.He claims to be a doctor and does not believe in the science of wearing a mask. Please!
I wasn't stating not to wear masks. I was saying wearing masks already does so little that you might as well not wear anything if you aren't going to do the other more successful actions such as social distancing. Like these new years parties that are going to be occurring. Yes wear a mask but be in a packed bar, club, strip club, etc with a bunch of strangers you don't know where they've been just doesn't make sense.Really? I think I'll stick with the health guidelines on mask wearing from the CDC, Epidemiologists and all the other Public health professionals.
I Luv Emall
01-01-21, 12:40
What people expect her to do? Put in a cape and fly around stopping crime? Like she could have stopped a stray bullet? But on another note WTF two 16 yr in a hotel together for smdh? Kids trying to be adults. Like how they even book a room? Parents are more to blame than a damn mayor.They don't expect her to throw the police under the bus every chance she gets, and blame them before an investigation even takes place. They don't expect her to call for firings of officers who acted as per their training. This is why you see record number of APD resignations / retirements, leaving the force shorthanded. This is why you see officers calling in sick and ignoring calls and no longer willing to put their lives on the line for a mayor who not only won't back them, but will have them fired the first chance she gets. She's now reaping what she sowed.
They don't expect her to throw the police under the bus every chance she gets, and blame them before an investigation even takes place. They don't expect her to call for firings of officers who acted as per their training. This is why you see record number of APD resignations / retirements, leaving the force shorthanded. This is why you see officers calling in sick and ignoring calls and no longer willing to put their lives on the line for a mayor who not only won't back them, but will have them fired the first chance she gets. She's now reaping what she sowed.Or I simply sum this up with left, left, left, and more left. People simply do not vote properly. They get exactly the leadership they deserve. Believe me, I'm from Baltimore, they don't even try up there. It's not even safe in the daytime.
Sgt Lurker
01-01-21, 14:23
He claims to be a doctor and does not believe in the science of wearing a mask. Please!
Really? I think I'll stick with the health guidelines on mask wearing from the CDC, Epidemiologists and all the other Public health professionals.So what you all are saying is that unless the 'Medical Professional' and "Scientist" agree with you then their education, experience, and knowledge are meaningless? That is neither scientific nor American. Being able to have a discussion of differing opinions and testing scientific endeavors is what is makes America great. Remember when you all were attacking using HydroxyCloriquine on COVID and not the AMA recently stated it may very well work for many people and worth using. Regardless of the fact that Fauci recommended it for COVID 1 15 years ago.
What about the scientific evidence that says people with O-Neg (first) and O-Pos (2nd) are the least likely to catch COVID and if they do are more likely to have little to no illness from it. What about the scientific evidence that the overwhelming people who catch it spent at least 10-15 minutes in close proximity with an infected person. We do not typically spend that long with anyone at a store or other large retail place.
Pathetic.
Queen Keisha was to busy trying to HO herself out to Joe Biden to give a Damn about the people or the police officers in Atlanta. She knew that the area around the Wendys had been blocked off by the thugs and protesters for more than two weeks before that little girl was killed. She had been told that citizens were being attacked for even trying to drive around the blockade. She told the police to do nothing. You know crime is bad when even the liberals are moving out of Buckhead.
AllTheTime
01-01-21, 19:30
So what you all are saying is that unless the 'Medical Professional' and "Scientist" agree with you then their education, experience, and knowledge are meaningless? That is neither scientific nor American. Being able to have a discussion of differing opinions and testing scientific endeavors is what is makes America great. Remember when you all were attacking using HydroxyCloriquine on COVID and not the AMA recently stated it may very well work for many people and worth using. Regardless of the fact that Fauci recommended it for COVID 1 15 years ago.
What about the scientific evidence that says people with O-Neg (first) and O-Pos (2nd) are the least likely to catch COVID and if they do are more likely to have little to no illness from it. What about the scientific evidence that the overwhelming people who catch it spent at least 10-15 minutes in close proximity with an infected person. We do not typically spend that long with anyone at a store or other large retail place.
Pathetic.Yes, there is evidence that blood type has an impact on severity. And your point? What are you going to do - push a button and change your type? The same research does not indicate a decreased vulnerability to catching or spreading the disease to those who aren't as fortunate.
Look, this is an unknown variation of coronavirus, which means there are going to be questions. But what is undeniable is that the vast majority of those with those medical degrees you mention, like Fauci, agree on certain basics, including the benefits of wearing a mask and social distancing. For reasons in 20 years from now people won't understand ("let me get this straight. It was fine for private business or the government to require me to wear shirts, shoes, or even pants, but a mask during an epidemic was an attack on my liberty?), some people simply want to downplay this (leading to the mindset that produces what happened in Wisconsin, where a pharmacist intentionally spoiled vaccines, likely to discredit them).
And the sad thing, even beyond the deaths, amputations, lasting heart and lung problems, plus the billions spent on healthcare, is that a quick look at most other first world countries shows clear connections between better COVID control and better employment outcomes with fewer deaths (again, the US - 4% of world's population, 20% of COVID deaths).
What's pathetic is that you folks just won't admit you were wrong that COVID "was no more serious than the flu" and “would disappear magically.”
He claims to be a doctor and does not believe in the science of wearing a mask. Please!
Really? I think I'll stick with the health guidelines on mask wearing from the CDC, Epidemiologists and all the other Public health professionals.Hell I am a Part Time Gynocologist, aren't we all? Masks recycle your own germs. Virus germs a sneaky little bastards. They are in the air
Waiting for you .
PunkedLife
01-01-21, 20:43
They don't expect her to throw the police under the bus every chance she gets, and blame them before an investigation even takes place. They don't expect her to call for firings of officers who acted as per their training. This is why you see record number of APD resignations / retirements, leaving the force shorthanded. This is why you see officers calling in sick and ignoring calls and no longer willing to put their lives on the line for a mayor who not only won't back them, but will have them fired the first chance she gets. She's now reaping what she sowed.Didn't really know any of this but you have a point if that's what she is like.
Sgt Lurker
01-01-21, 21:10
You, like many others are proving what I am saying. We do not want to allow the medical and scientific community to have an honest discussion about the virus, treatment, and prevention. Too many want be sheep and follow the most scariest information. Last week a medical report came out from China showing that those who are asymptomatic have a 0. 31% chance of actually spreading it. Did that get very far in the US News Media. No. Those, like me and my family, who are blood type O are in the category who are least likely to catch it or suffer from it and based on that report from China, to pass it on. But it would not be fair to exclude certain groups of people, that would be bigotted. Plus, these very people you all want to worship are the same ones who jumped all over our President when he touted the science behind using Hydroxychloroquine as a treatment. Now that he lost the election, suddenly the AMA says it is not only safe but appears to be productive in treating or preventing COVID.
I can't help to wonder how much it true science and how much is political BS.
Yes, there is evidence that blood type has an impact on severity. And your point? What are you going to do - push a button and change your type? The same research does not indicate a decreased vulnerability to catching or spreading the disease to those who aren't as fortunate.
Look, this is an unknown variation of coronavirus, which means there are going to be questions. But what is undeniable is that the vast majority of those with those medical degrees you mention, like Fauci, agree on certain basics, including the benefits of wearing a mask and social distancing. For reasons in 20 years from now people won't understand ("let me get this straight. It was fine for private business or the government to require me to wear shirts, shoes, or even pants, but a mask during an epidemic was an attack on my liberty?), some people simply want to downplay this (leading to the mindset that produces what happened in Wisconsin, where a pharmacist intentionally spoiled vaccines, likely to discredit them).
And the sad thing, even beyond the deaths, amputations, lasting heart and lung problems, plus the billions spent on healthcare, is that a quick look at most other first world countries shows clear connections between better COVID control and better employment outcomes with fewer deaths (again, the US - 4% of world's population, 20% of COVID deaths).
What's pathetic is that you folks just won't admit you were wrong that COVID "was no more serious than the flu" and would disappear magically.
MTWilliams911
01-01-21, 22:36
CDC on the effectiveness of cloth masks.
https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/26/10/20-0948_article
I will break down the game film here and translate into sheep language. Baa. Baa. Here it is quoted word for word.
"During a pandemic, cloth masks may be the only option available; however, they should be used as a last resort when medical masks (certified or KN95) and respirators are not available. Cloth mask use should not be mandated for healthcare workers, but some may choose to use them if there are no alternatives. ".
What does this mean? It means only morons, sheep, and people in third world settings (read poverty) should wear cloth masks. Why is that? Because it is all about air, air handling, filtration, and aerosoled virus. CDC says health care workers should not wear cloth masks (only as a last resort when nothing else is available). What is the air handling in a hospital in general, or in the Operating Room specifically? A hospital has 20 times an hour turnover of air, plus HEPA filtration, and our OR has 40 times per hour turnover with HEPA filtration. So the CDC says that in spite of that air handling (20 x and 40 x) and filtration, that cloth masks are only to be used as a last resort. Yes! In a high air turnover and HEPA filtered air environment cloth masks are only as a last resort when KN95 certified masks are not available. So that is a high air turnover and HEPA filtered environment that cloth masks ARE NOT to be used unless there is no alternative. So let's go to a crowded WalMart, Home Depot, Costco, Kroger, any retail store, etc. With their 4 times an hour air turnover and no HEPA filtration. How might that cloth mask work in that 4 x non-filtered environment when it will not make the grade in 20 x to 40 x with HEPA filtration? Incredibly poor is the answer.
The takeaway from this CDC article is that only morons, sheep, the uninformed, and the poor should wear cloth masks.
The effectiveness of protection from aerosol virus with a cloth mask can be as low as one percent or less.
KN95 can be 20 to 30 times more effective.
Would you even bother to buckle a seat belt that worked 1% or less of the time?
Cloth masks in a developed country are a sad waste of time and create a false sense of sheep security from the wolves.
If you are going to wear a mask, then get a KN95. I wear one. When one is not available I put on a cloth mask. Not because they work worth anything of value, just because I do not want to hear the mass Baa! Baa! From the sheep I encounter.
MTWilliams911
01-01-21, 22:44
CDC on the effectiveness of cloth masks.
https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/26/10/20-0948_article
I will break down the game film here and translate into sheep language. Baa. Baa. Here it is quoted word for word.
"During a pandemic, cloth masks may be the only option available; however, they should be used as a last resort when medical masks (certified or KN95) and respirators are not available. Cloth mask use should not be mandated for healthcare workers, but some may choose to use them if there are no alternatives. ".
What does this mean? It means only morons, sheep, and people in third world settings (read poverty) should wear cloth masks. Why is that? Because it is all about air, air handling, filtration, and aerosoled virus. CDC says health care workers should not wear cloth masks (only as a last resort when nothing else is available). What is the air handling in a hospital in general, or in the Operating Room specifically? A hospital has 20 times an hour turnover of air, plus HEPA filtration, and our OR has 40 times per hour turnover with HEPA filtration. So the CDC says that in spite of that air handling (20 x and 40 x) and filtration, that cloth masks are only to be used as a last resort. Yes! In a high air turnover and HEPA filtered air environment cloth masks are only as a last resort when KN95 certified masks are not available. So that is a high air turnover and HEPA filtered environment that cloth masks ARE NOT to be used unless there is no alternative. So let's go to a crowded WalMart, Home Depot, Costco, Kroger, any retail store, etc. With their 4 times an hour air turnover and no HEPA filtration. How might that cloth mask work in that 4 x non-filtered environment when it will not make the grade in 20 x to 40 x with HEPA filtration? Incredibly poor is the answer.
The takeaway from this CDC article is that only morons, sheep, the uninformed, and the poor should wear cloth masks.
The effectiveness of protection from aerosol virus with a cloth mask can be as low as one percent or less.
KN95 can be 20 to 30 times more effective.
Would you even bother to buckle a seat belt that worked 1% or less of the time?
Cloth masks in a developed country are a sad waste of time and create a false sense of sheep security from the wolves.
If you are going to wear a mask, then get a KN95. I wear one. When one is not available I put on a cloth mask. Not because they work worth anything of value, just because I do not want to hear the mass Baa! Baa! From the sheep I encounter.The only Soros that I want to see wear a cloth mask is the worthless billionaire and evil motherfucker George Soros.
The only Soros that I want to see wear a cloth mask is the worthless billionaire and evil motherfucker George Soros.Just for you....lol
CDC on the effectiveness of cloth masks.
https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/26/10/20-0948_article
I will break down the game film here and translate into sheep language. Baa. Baa. Here it is quoted word for word.
"During a pandemic, cloth masks may be the only option available; however, they should be used as a last resort when medical masks (certified or KN95) and respirators are not available. Cloth mask use should not be mandated for healthcare workers, but some may choose to use them if there are no alternatives. ".
What does this mean? It means only morons, sheep, and people in third world settings (read poverty) should wear cloth masks. Why is that? Because it is all about air, air handling, filtration, and aerosoled virus. CDC says health care workers should not wear cloth masks (only as a last resort when nothing else is available). What is the air handling in a hospital in general, or in the Operating Room specifically? A hospital has 20 times an hour turnover of air, plus HEPA filtration, and our OR has 40 times per hour turnover with HEPA filtration. So the CDC says that in spite of that air handling (20 x and 40 x) and filtration, that cloth masks are only to be used as a last resort. Yes! In a high air turnover and HEPA filtered air environment cloth masks are only as a last resort when KN95 certified masks are not available. So that is a high air turnover and HEPA filtered environment that cloth masks ARE NOT to be used unless there is no alternative. So let's go to a crowded WalMart, Home Depot, Costco, Kroger, any retail store, etc. With their 4 times an hour air turnover and no HEPA filtration. How might that cloth mask work in that 4 x non-filtered environment when it will not make the grade in 20 x to 40 x with HEPA filtration? Incredibly poor is the answer.
The takeaway from this CDC article is that only morons, sheep, the uninformed, and the poor should wear cloth masks.
The effectiveness of protection from aerosol virus with a cloth mask can be as low as one percent or less.
KN95 can be 20 to 30 times more effective.
Would you even bother to buckle a seat belt that worked 1% or less of the time?
Cloth masks in a developed country are a sad waste of time and create a false sense of sheep security from the wolves.
If you are going to wear a mask, then get a KN95. I wear one. When one is not available I put on a cloth mask. Not because they work worth anything of value, just because I do not want to hear the mass Baa! Baa! From the sheep I encounter.Thanks for the dissertation skimpy, we were not debating the effectiveness of cloth masks?
MTWilliams911
01-02-21, 12:50
Thanks for the dissertation skimpy, we were not debating the effectiveness of cloth masks?If you insist, then both you and your brother George Soros should definitely wear a cloth mask.
If you insist, then both you and your brother George Soros should definitely wear a cloth mask.Yes, any covering over the nose and mouth beats wearing nothing! The virus has been getting very clever lately in it's ability to recognize it's victim's political affiliation.
MTWilliams911
01-02-21, 14:10
Yes, any covering over the nose and mouth beats wearing nothing! The virus has been getting very clever lately in it's ability to recognize it's victim's political affiliation.Then I suggest you and George Soros go with a fishnet mask.
Still don't understand why the CDC and state governments don't highly insist on the N95 mask since the stats show it to be the most effective. What are they trying to do, not "offend" anyone?
https://smartairfilters.com/en/blog/whats-the-difference-between-n95-and-kn95-masks/
Why does $25 on White City get me higher quality and more enthusiastic head than 2 k in diamonds on Christmas gets me from my wife?
The Wiseacre
01-02-21, 15:39
Why does $25 on White City get me higher quality and more enthusiastic head than 2 k in diamonds on Christmas gets me from my wife?We've all been there.
Wives do not see their sexual participation as part of a business transaction. Also, you are not paying your wife to leave afterwards, either.
The sex worker market would be vastly different if wives had any idea how much they let their partner down by not being enthusiastic about their sex life and / or their husband's sexual needs. Many of us have pled, begged, washed the dishes, quit drinking, paid for the mortgage, listened intently to their every complaint about Life, gone to therapy, given Self Help books, etc.
Wives not being enthusiastic about a regular sex life is a problem that is thousands of years old, and yet here we are.
Then I suggest you and George Soros go with a fishnet mask.Well, anti-maskers are posting selfies wearing useless netted masks to appear compliant with rules they don't agree with. I will not lose a minute of sleep, if one of these numbskulls has a severe health emergency, either a heart attack or a life threatening injury from an auto wreck and are denied use of an emergency room bed because the hospital system has been overwhelmed with critically sick COVID patients.
https://www.businessinsider.com/anti-maskers-are-posting-selfies-wearing-bogus-netted-masks-2020-7
Well, anti-maskers are posting selfies wearing useless netted masks to appear compliant with rules they don't agree with. I will not lose a minute of sleep, if one of these numbskulls has a severe health emergency, either a heart attack or a life threatening injury from an auto wreck and are denied use of an emergency room bed because the hospital system has been overwhelmed with critically sick COVID patients.
https://www.businessinsider.com/anti-maskers-are-posting-selfies-wearing-bogus-netted-masks-2020-7Now that is funny shit.
Now that is funny shit.Yea right, I'm guessing shit-face ate that pasty shit whilst visiting your house.
Oh please come to my house but before you come in get right with Jesus and let him know that you will be on your way shortly.
Aaron Hamlet
01-03-21, 17:39
Dudes rawdogging hookers but worried about people wearing a mask that doesn't filter out viral microbes. Does nothing. Infected person coughing, spitting in your face, mask will stop most saliva and mucous, but not microbes. All for a disease that has an IFR of the flu. If you're under 80 and die from China virus, your immune system was compromised by HIV, diabetes, cancer, etc. Your death was only pulled forward. You were dying anyway
A reported 50% of healthcare workers are refusing China virus vaccination. Do your own research. Especially re Moderna mRNA vaccination.
It's been almost 9 months since the government provided 1200 dollars before the entire country shutdown. People are desperate and poor, which is why crime is rising.
P.S.
The police being shit heads has nothing to do with crime. APD is one of the highest paid police departments in the country. When sworn in the mayor of Atlanta provided a raise for all officers before any other legislation was passed. Accountability and satisfactory performance is determined by the mayor's standards. If you're new to this whole personal responsibility and leadership expectations thing then I hope your under 25. Sadly, the current state of the US shows that most don't give a fuck about personal responsibility and accountability. After all, almost 80 million people voted for a guy claimed that a raging pandemic in the richest country in the world is not his fault or his problem.
MartyBass864
01-04-21, 07:58
Mr. Brooks at the Wendy's incident sealed his own fate, the officers did what they needed to do to protect themselves. The mayor and the District Attorney rushed to judgement and neither officer will be convicted of any crime. The mayor has emboldened the citizens to challenge the officers at every turn. The officer's have rightfully decided to do the bare minimum. Prior to 2020 , I had been to Atlanta twice. In 2020 I went to Atlanta 4 times (follies in March, the tilted kilt (April) strokers and the new follies in December. I have money to spend and that I want to spend, but I refuse to spend it in Atlanta. To be blunt I am scared. Riots. The bottle boys and now they want to disarm people at the mall? (they installed medal detectors) nope not for I. I will be avoiding atlanta till they get things under control.
BobSugarSmith
01-04-21, 08:50
What is up with the price of pussy atm? Is it overall inflation, stimulus checks? Seems even grandmas are asking for $400+/ hr right now. This has to be some sort of economic indicator that can be used for investing purposes. For now UTR, Strip Clubs, and KAMPs are in my future.
Dudes rawdogging hookers but worried about people wearing a mask that doesn't filter out viral microbes.If that's even a question, the answer is this: Guys want to fuck because sport fucking hurts no one, between two consenting adults. Assholes not wearing masks properly most likely will kill someone, an innocent person and perhaps your mother. Suggest you try to distinguish between these opposite realms and learn something.
We've all been there.
Wives do not see their sexual participation as part of a business transaction. Also, you are not paying your wife to leave afterwards, either.
The sex worker market would be vastly different if wives had any idea how much they let their partner down by not being enthusiastic about their sex life and / or their husband's sexual needs. Many of us have pled, begged, washed the dishes, quit drinking, paid for the mortgage, listened intently to their every complaint about Life, gone to therapy, given Self Help books, etc.
Wives not being enthusiastic about a regular sex life is a problem that is thousands of years old, and yet here we are.I would like to say I agree with this 1000% I've just ended a 34 year marriage. I've put up with a lot of shit and hard times. I've bent over backwards to help her. Anything that I could do to help with her life I did. She got the new car I kept the older one. I could go on. I finally had enough when she told me she was interested in sex any longer. I'm like WTF. I packed up and moved out. Best decision I've made. I also started internet dating. Being a 54 yo the amount of divorced and widowed mature women who are search for some mutual sexual fun has been quite fruitful. So after a few dinners and drinks it's pretty much good to go.
Ozymandias
01-04-21, 22:53
What is up with the price of pussy atm? Is it overall inflation, stimulus checks? Seems even grandmas are asking for $400+/ hr right now. This has to be some sort of economic indicator that can be used for investing purposes. For now UTR, Strip Clubs, and KAMPs are in my future.My only explanation is that it's just an influx of people new to the game, and they have an inflated sense of fees, which is common.
Example: today, I happened to be researching the welding industry. I've long had this idea that welding is a great profession for people who didn't go to college, because it's portable work, it's in high demand, and pays well, and this is especially true for underwater welders. But in my research I came across the starting pay for underwater welders as $26/ hour, or $52,000 per year. Pretty far from what I assumed.
Let me put it this way: if I hung my single out right now, "O Services, Underwater Welding", I would have asked for $150-$200 per hour. That's how dumb I am (or was, before reading about it). When I heard that "underwater welding pays well", my brain turned that into $150-$200 per hour (because $300-$400 k per year seems like "a good income" to me).
So, I think this flood of noobs simply aren't pros yet, and just don't know their new industry. They have unrealistic expectations for compensation, and that's reflected in their pricing.
O.
What is up with the price of pussy atm? Is it overall inflation, stimulus checks? Seems even grandmas are asking for $400+/ hr right now. This has to be some sort of economic indicator that can be used for investing purposes. For now UTR, Strip Clubs, and KAMPs are in my future.PornHub might be the best alternative for the time being, LOL.
The Wiseacre
01-05-21, 09:28
My only explanation is that it's just an influx of people new to the game, and they have an inflated sense of fees, which is common.
Example: today, I happened to be researching the welding industry. I've long had this idea that welding is a great profession for people who didn't go to college, because it's portable work, it's in high demand, and pays well, and this is especially true for underwater welders. But in my research I came across the starting pay for underwater welders as $26/ hour, or $52,000 per year. Pretty far from what I assumed.
Let me put it this way: if I hung my single out right now, "O Services, Underwater Welding", I would have asked for $150-$200 per hour. That's how dumb I am (or was, before reading about it). When I heard that "underwater welding pays well", my brain turned that into $150-$200 per hour (because $300-$400 k per year seems like "a good income" to me).
So, I think this flood of noobs simply aren't pros yet, and just don't know their new industry. They have unrealistic expectations for compensation, and that's reflected in their pricing.
O.If prices are going up, that usually suggests scarcity of supply.
We might assume that younger providers have left the supply (due to the pandemic?) and that demand has actually gone up. The pandemic, among other things, has taken away a lot of free-time / entertainment / leisure time options for many mongers I. E. Can't go to the movies, concerts, sporting events, limited dining out, to bars, etc. It's possible that mongers actually have more disposable income to spend on providers, and they have more leisure time to pursue it. And since most providers likely had a long dry spell with zero income during 2020, they are more likely trying to see if they can make up a deficit.
The other thing is that while some men enjoyed a robust sex life during the pandemic, a lot of spouses were getting laid even less than before because their wives were scorched from having the kids home all day, etc. And a lot of guys have not been able to run game at bars or go to parties etc. Maybe there are more mongers coming out of the closet because they are sick of p0 rnhub and / or can't get any alone time with everyone in the house all the time.
Seems to me like the selection of providers is not blossoming at most places, and my feeling is that there are a lot of shops out there operating with two or maybe three providers. If it were easy to find good looking, younger providers then I think we would be seeing a lot more of that. But instead, you are much more likely to find at least one 40+ year old women at literally every shop in town.
PunkedLife
01-05-21, 09:58
I would like to say I agree with this 1000% I've just ended a 34 year marriage. I've put up with a lot of shit and hard times. I've bent over backwards to help her. Anything that I could do to help with her life I did. She got the new car I kept the older one. I could go on. I finally had enough when she told me she was interested in sex any longer. I'm like WTF. I packed up and moved out. Best decision I've made. I also started internet dating. Being a 54 yo the amount of divorced and widowed mature women who are search for some mutual sexual fun has been quite fruitful. So after a few dinners and drinks it's pretty much good to go.Most women that get married aren't truly attracted to their partners. They see you as a stable mate since that guy who gets her wet and fucks her like she likes, well that guy isn't husband or father material. Plus he doesn't want her basic ass because he has so many better options. Then here you come with your mediocre game, if you even have any, that dries her pussy up but she let's you hit a few times, you know after making you wait after a few expensive ass dinner dates. You think she made her first choice wait? Nah he was busting her cheeks on date one. Probably didn't even take her on a date. Then yall get married after 6 months because your so happy someone picked you or maybe you think that's the best thing you can get. Yall sex life dwindles. She keeps telling you she really isn't into sex that much. All the kinky shit you want to do. Well she isn't that type of girl. But in all actuality she isn't that type of girl with you. I've heard stories where guys found out their wives were giving up the booty to their AP when she refused to do anal, or only did it on special nights with her husband. That's just one example. Then yall have kids and then the sex becomes non existent for one excuse after another. You really think women don't know men live for sex. Most men want to fuck at least if not multiple times a day. No they just clearly don't give a fuck about your needs. You already have them ask they need. A stable relationship or marriage. Kids. Nice house. She gets the new car while you drive the old one. Like WTF are your balls? And she knows she has all the negotiating power because you don't want to leave. You still love a woman who clearly gives two shits about you. It you know that if you leave, her and the courts are going to DP you with a strap on. So what incentive does she have to give you some pussy? If all these mature women yall keep finding now apparently want to fuck, you think your wives are any different? You really think they aren't into sex. Unless they have some hormone imbalance. No they want to fuck. They just don't want to fuck you because they don't respect you. How can they when you've let them walk all over you for years just for the chance to get some pussy whenever she wants to reward you for being a good boy LOL. All the while she's probably thinking of the guy she really wants to fuck. Who probably is already fucking. Some advice, the moment a woman's attitude changes in the slightest from how she was towards you in the past, it means something. It shouldn't take years of a miserable marriage to tell you that your wife isn't attracted to you any longer. And if she's spending extra time away from you unlike she's ever done. For work, or girls night out. It's because someone else got her attention. Stop missing the red flags. 90 percent of the women you meet aren't shit. But if your determined for that Disney fantasy then your going to have to date thousands of women and not tap out after meeting the first one whose cooperative.
Airmantroy
01-05-21, 12:03
My only explanation is that it's just an influx of people new to the game, and they have an inflated sense of fees, which is common.
Example: today, I happened to be researching the welding industry. I've long had this idea that welding is a great profession for people who didn't go to college, because it's portable work, it's in high demand, and pays well, and this is especially true for underwater welders. But in my research I came across the starting pay for underwater welders as $26/ hour, or $52,000 per year. Pretty far from what I assumed.
Let me put it this way: if I hung my single out right now, "O Services, Underwater Welding", I would have asked for $150-$200 per hour. That's how dumb I am (or was, before reading about it). When I heard that "underwater welding pays well", my brain turned that into $150-$200 per hour (because $300-$400 k per year seems like "a good income" to me).
So, I think this flood of noobs simply aren't pros yet, and just don't know their new industry. They have unrealistic expectations for compensation, and that's reflected in their pricing.
O.I am in fact a certified welder, my last job being employed by someone other than myself was with a major foreign manufacturing company, I was the only certified welder in my assembly department. My starting pay was $28/ hr, when I left I was at $34/ hr plus full company paid benefits, 100% match on 401 K up to 15% of my annual salary and more approved overtime than I could work in 2 months time. A certified underwater welder with 2 years experience is going to be upwards of $100/ hr, so your rationale of $150/ hr isn't really that far fetched, that type of job is extremely skilled, NOT in very high demand and you may go months without work. With my certifications currently, I can pretty much walk in to a place that needs a precision welder and command $25-30/ hr, but those jobs are getting harder to find. Add to that the fact that I am over 50 and the realization that I can't do what I did 15 years ago (physically) and the market gets small. Now, these colleges are telling these kids today that they can make $100-150 K a year, the kids get all excited and go out applying for jobs and expect $40 hr, with zero real world experience and pretty basic skills, they get offered $17/ hr and they thumb their nose at it or take the job and start looking for another job immediately. So yeah, noobs have unrealistic expectations because some porn star out there said she made half a mil last year. And giving blowies doesn't require any talent (in their minds).
RedneckStud
01-05-21, 13:29
PornHub might be the best alternative for the time being, LOL.Twitter can supply great porn in two minute increments. Safer from viruses, too.
Most women that get married aren't truly attracted to their partners. They see you as a stable mate since that guy who gets her wet and fucks her like she likes, well that guy isn't husband or father material. Plus he doesn't want her basic ass because he has so many better options. Then here you come with your mediocre game, if you even have any, that dries her pussy up but she let's you hit a few times, you know after making you wait after a few expensive ass dinner dates. You think she made her first choice wait? Sure this happens quite often but every situation is different. I cut my wife off from sex 4 years ago because her weight had escalated (she's around 4'11" and 135). I had asked and encouraged in every way possible to get her in shape (this was 18 years into the marriage. She was fine for the first 15). Her response was to like it or lump it. Mentally, I checked out at that point. She apologized 50 times and tried everything (except losing some weight) to return to a normal physical relationship. The only way to survive the situation without a divorce was to tell her I could no longer perform, I am impotent. So I take Testosterone weekly, HCG, Viagra as needed and also Trimix. I simply say the injections are for anti aging. So I do my thing, and she lays around and bitches that we don't spend time together. Cheaper to keep her and then move into my final phase in which I won't have any urge and will cease all the running around. Sure I'm not the only one.
DiscreetMeet
01-05-21, 14:36
Most women that get married aren't truly attracted to their partners. They see you as a stable mate since that guy who gets her wet and fucks her like she likes, well that guy isn't husband or father material. Plus he doesn't want her basic ass because he has so many better options. Then here you come with your mediocre game, if you even have any, that dries her pussy up but she let's you hit a few times, you know after making you wait after a few expensive ass dinner dates. You think she made her first choice wait? Nah he was busting her cheeks on date one. Probably didn't even take her on a date. Then yall get married after 6 months because your so happy someone picked you or maybe you think that's the best thing you can get. Yall sex life dwindles. She keeps telling you she really isn't into sex that much. All the kinky shit you want to do. Well she isn't that type of girl. But in all actuality she isn't that type of girl with you. I've heard stories where guys found out their wives were giving up the booty to their AP when she refused to do anal, or only did it on special nights with her husband. That's just one example. Then yall have kids and then the sex becomes non existent for one excuse after another. You really think women don't know men live for sex. Most men want to fuck at least if not multiple times a day. No they just clearly don't give a fuck about your needs. You already have them ask they need. A stable relationship or marriage. Kids. Nice house. She gets the new car while you drive the old one. Like WTF are your balls? And she knows she has all the negotiating power because you don't want to leave. You still love a woman who clearly gives two shits about you. It you know that if you leave, her and the courts are going to DP you with a strap on. So what incentive does she have to give you some pussy? If all these mature women yall keep finding now apparently want to fuck, you think your wives are any different? You really think they aren't into sex. Unless they have some hormone imbalance. No they want to fuck. They just don't want to fuck you because they don't respect you. How can they when you've let them walk all over you for years just for the chance to get some pussy whenever she wants to reward you for being a good boy LOL. All the while she's probably thinking of the guy she really wants to fuck. Who probably is already fucking. Some advice, the moment a woman's attitude changes in the slightest from how she was towards you in the past, it means something. It shouldn't take years of a miserable marriage to tell you that your wife isn't attracted to you any longer. And if she's spending extra time away from you unlike she's ever done. For work, or girls night out. It's because someone else got her attention. Stop missing the red flags. 90 percent of the women you meet aren't shit. But if your determined for that Disney fantasy then your going to have to date thousands of women and not tap out after meeting the first one whose cooperative.Same story, wash, rinse, repeat. And, then, out of the blue one day just so happens that I find out one of the women in our apartment complex has a wild side. That was 2018. At that point I'd been getting the cold shoulder for about 3 years. Now, to date? Lets just say I have, at last count, 48 ticks in the "W" column. Ain't no looking back either. Some days its a breakfast, lunch, and late afternoon "snack" before I go back home and sit my ass in front of the TV Hell, now I keep a list of "trophies" I'm after. (Looking for an Asian UTR if anybody can share.).
And I sleep great at night.
The cops were fired because tasers are non lethal and the fact that his partner was at scene removed the ability of Brooks to take the officers weapon. Police carry tasers so that their only option isn't a lethal weapon. You guys don't know what the hell your talking about. You cannot shoot someone in the back, cop or not. Unfortunately, far to many Americans welcome oppression, and some like it if it's targeted towards people they disagree with.
I Luv Emall
01-05-21, 17:03
Those police were called there, it's not like they were looking for trouble. And they were trying to make an arrest, and it had nothing to do with his offenses or blotter after the fact. His resisting arrest is what had to do with his offenses, and why the situation unfortunately turned deadly. I'm not going to sit here and say all the right decisions were made, but I'm also not going to sit here and say that I would have made all the right decisions in the heat of the moment either. The fact is Mr. Brooks created a life-threatening situation by wrestling with armed police officers, striking them, and taking their weapons and using them against them. The taser could have disabled those officers and then who knows what? Certainly there have been many officers killed in the line of duty where struggles just like this started. It's easy in hindsight to look at the video and say what could have been done, but in the heat of the moment with adrenaline going and your life on the line, you're not always thinking your clearest, and instincts do take over. It's unfortunate what happened but that situation was clearly created and escalated by Mr. Brooks, and for you to turn that around and make it the officers' responsibilty is just wrong. Walk a mile if you dare....
Since when is a used taser a lethal weapon? Breaking news: Fleeing suspect kills 2 police officers with 1 used taser while running away and firing backwards all while being inebriated. Give me a break! Protect and Serve? And they fired weapons and rounds and actually struck a car of a motorist. Now if he had their firearm? Definitely lawful shooting. If he was such a danger, call for backup immediately, surround him immediately, not have a 30 minute conversation. Really? In the majority of cases, Cops are not suppose to be the judge and jury or are they? Yes! I AM biased and apparently, and so are some are you. Biases come from life experiences, so everyone has them. My bias comes from being pulled over several times a year for driving an expensive car and that's my suspected crime.
Shit stain? LOL. Again, if he was a "shit stain", arrest immediately. Don't give me his offenses or blotter after the fact for a justification.
I Luv Emall
01-05-21, 17:14
The cops were fired because tasers are non lethal and the fact that his partner was at scene removed the ability of Brooks to take the officers weapon. Police carry tasers so that their only option isn't a lethal weapon. You guys don't know what the hell your talking about. You cannot shoot someone in the back, cop or not. Unfortunately, far to many Americans welcome oppression, and some like it if it's targeted towards people they disagree with.Think you better check your facts:
https://allongeorgia.com/georgia-state-news/gbi-says-fulton-da-blindsided-agency-amid-investigation-in-brooks-case/
A taser is considered a deadly weapon under GA law, even according to the DA Paul Howard who charged the officers. You need to stop talking like you're some authority when you're so ill-informed. You want to put your money where your mouth is those cops aren't convicted?
Since when is a used taser a lethal weapon? Breaking news: Fleeing suspect kills 2 police officers with 1 used taser while running away and firing backwards all while being inebriated. Give me a break! Protect and Serve? And they fired weapons and rounds and actually struck a car of a motorist. Now if he had their firearm? Definitely lawful shooting. If he was such a danger, call for backup immediately, surround him immediately, not have a 30 minute conversation. Really? In the majority of cases, Cops are not suppose to be the judge and jury or are they? Yes! I AM biased and apparently, and so are some are you. Biases come from life experiences, so everyone has them. My bias comes from being pulled over several times a year for driving an expensive car and that's my suspected crime.
Shit stain? LOL. Again, if he was a "shit stain", arrest immediately. Don't give me his offences or blotter after the fact for a justification.None of that matters. Shit stain avoided a lawful arrest and escalated the situation. No need to try to choreograph exactly what you think should happen.
The cops were fired because tasers are non lethal and the fact that his partner was at scene removed the ability of Brooks to take the officers weapon. Police carry tasers so that their only option isn't a lethal weapon. You guys don't know what the hell your talking about. You cannot shoot someone in the back, cop or not. Unfortunately, far to many Americans welcome oppression, and some like it if it's targeted towards people they disagree with.They may be classified as such, but many a taser has been lethal, regardless of intent.
"Microbes" - in this case a corona virus - don't float about in the air. They are transmitted in and on water droplets. The very saliva and mucous that you acknowledge are stopped by masks. Your statement LITERALLY illustrates why mask wearing works.
The current strain of covid-19 has an IFR rate more than twice that of the flu. And unlike flu season it hasn't finished yet. Also, the "R" rate which measures the reproduction rate shows that covid is 3 x more infectious. This data is easily verifiable at actual medical and science sources.
As far as being under 80 and dying. We all are, but it's a function of risk mitigation. With 300+k dead in the US including some on this forum. People who fuck around are finding out the hard way.
Dudes rawdogging hookers but worried about people wearing a mask that doesn't filter out viral microbes. Does nothing. Infected person coughing, spitting in your face, mask will stop most saliva and mucous, but not microbes. All for a disease that has an IFR of the flu. If you're under 80 and die from China virus, your immune system was compromised by HIV, diabetes, cancer, etc. Your death was only pulled forward. You were dying anyway
A reported 50% of healthcare workers are refusing China virus vaccination. Do your own research. Especially re Moderna mRNA vaccination.
Sgt Lurker
01-05-21, 18:18
Since when is a used taser a lethal weapon?
A tazer is not a lethal weapon.
The cops were fired because tasers are non lethal The Distract Attorney Paul Howard charged cops who used a taser for using a lethal weapon. He is black and was at the time the district attorney. But when it was white cops with a black suspect he and Keisha Lance Bottom-of-the-barrel decide it is not? Cops are damned if they do and damned if they don't.
Obey the fucking law and you're pretty much guaranteed to stay alive.
The Distract Attorney Paul Howard charged cops who used a taser for using a lethal weapon. He is black and was at the time the district attorney. But when it was white cops with a black suspect he and Keisha Lance Bottom-of-the-barrel decide it is not? Cops are damned if they do and damned if they don't.
I Luv Emall
01-05-21, 20:03
Unfortunately, far to many Americans welcome oppression, and some like it if it's targeted towards people they disagree with.Oh yeah, he was really oppressed. The dude was drunk and asleep at the wheel in the drive-thru at the Wendy's. The cashier called the police on him, who were simply trying to do their job and arrest him. He resisted arrest, struck an officer and took their weapon, and he's oppressed! Yeah, your attitude is a big part of what's wrong with this country. That dude could easily have killed your mother driving in the state he was in. I wonder how you would have felt about him then, and if you'd still be defending him as "oppressed", or if you'd be calling for his head on a platter.
And for Gamecocktoo who says they should have called for backup if he was so dangerous, when was their time to call for backup when he was cooperating right up until the time he resisted arrest, struck them, and took their weapon? How does your statement make any sense whatsoever? That's exactly the point- these situations escalate in seconds, and there's no time for second-guessing. The guy goes from joking and being cooperative to being violent and dangerous. That's how people get killed.
PunkedLife
01-05-21, 22:05
Sure this happens quite often but every situation is different. I cut my wife off from sex 4 years ago because her weight had escalated (she's around 4'11" and 135). I had asked and encouraged in every way possible to get her in shape (this was 18 years into the marriage. She was fine for the first 15). Her response was to like it or lump it. Mentally, I checked out at that point. She apologized 50 times and tried everything (except losing some weight) to return to a normal physical relationship. The only way to survive the situation without a divorce was to tell her I could no longer perform, I am impotent. So I take Testosterone weekly, HCG, Viagra as needed and also Trimix. I simply say the injections are for anti aging. So I do my thing, and she lays around and bitches that we don't spend time together. Cheaper to keep her and then move into my final phase in which I won't have any urge and will cease all the running around. Sure I'm not the only one.Damn that's just sad a pathetic. Not calling you that but it seems the repercussions of having half your shit taken and barely being allowed to see your kids especially if she is vindictive if you have kids got men throwing your manhood away. That's just sad and just reinforces the need to properly vet women before committing. My new motto is fuck around and date and when you meet someone that is cooperative and no drama and brings something positive to your life and continues to do so even while you both are fucking other people and honest about it. Then after she's proven herself for a year then you can make her your girlfriend whether you choose monogamous or not up to what you want. Never what the ***** wants. If she don't agree with anything she can hit that door. You got to have the mindset that no matter if you met the butch yesterday or you been with her for 30 years if she chooses to leave in whatever fashion you don't even pause. Shit sounds easier than it is but if y'all stop putting a *** on a pedestal and willing to walk out on anything your not truly comfortable with then your most likely to find a half decent woman that you can be happy with. But never marriage. Can't trust a *** farther than you can see her. And with how manipulative and sneaky they are, they got no problems doing shit right in your face with the advent of technology. But donr give up bro. It's simple. Tell her your thinking of divorce. Depends on if you want to take the risk of her calling your bluff. Tell her your not attracted to her weight and that's not who you married and she need to change or be ready to gtfo. I'm sure you won't do this seeing as your going to great lengths fucking with your biology. But is it really healthy? Are you really happy? If you are then that is completely your decision to make and fuck anyone who judges it. Just hope you aint lying to yourself. Also if your not willing to put your foot down about something as simple as her weight which is easily fixable then how can you expect her to respect you with anything else. Your doing all this to avoid divorce and I'm sure you can read many stories where shit still ended in divorce. She apparently wants dick. She eventually going to get it from somewhere. Maybe from someone she respects while losing respect from you. See how easy this can lead to divorce. Just food for thought. Best wishes.
I think they pull this same bait-and-switch in the trucking industry. I see so many semi trailers with billboards on the back saying "Make $78,000 your first year with us" but the noobs find out it's more like 37 K and then flame out in a year. And the trucking industry wonders why there is so much turnover.
Autonomous trucks need to become a real thing within 20 years. Humans are not meant to be strapped into a cab for many hours driving 80,000 pounds down the highway like a guided missile.
I am in fact a certified welder, my last job being employed by someone other than myself was with a major foreign manufacturing company, I was the only certified welder in my assembly department. My starting pay was $28/ hr, when I left I was at $34/ hr plus full company paid benefits, 100% match on 401 K up to 15% of my annual salary and more approved overtime than I could work in 2 months time. A certified underwater welder with 2 years experience is going to be upwards of $100/ hr, so your rationale of $150/ hr isn't really that far fetched, that type of job is extremely skilled, NOT in very high demand and you may go months without work. With my certifications currently, I can pretty much walk in to a place that needs a precision welder and command $25-30/ hr, but those jobs are getting harder to find. Add to that the fact that I am over 50 and the realization that I can't do what I did 15 years ago (physically) and the market gets small. Now, these colleges are telling these kids today that they can make $100-150 K a year, the kids get all excited and go out applying for jobs and expect $40 hr, with zero real world experience and pretty basic skills, they get offered $17/ hr and they thumb their nose at it or take the job and start looking for another job immediately. So yeah, noobs have unrealistic expectations because some porn star out there said she made half a mil last year. And giving blowies doesn't require any talent (in their minds).
Most women that get married aren't truly attracted to their partners. They see you as a stable mate since that guy who gets her wet and fucks her like she likes, well that guy isn't husband or father material. Plus he doesn't want her basic ass because he has so many better options. Then here you come with your mediocre game, if you even have any, that dries her pussy up but she let's you hit a few times, you know after making you wait after a few expensive ass dinner dates. You think she made her first choice wait? Nah he was busting her cheeks on date one. Probably didn't even take her on a date. Then yall get married after 6 months because your so happy someone picked you or maybe you think that's the best thing you can get. Yall sex life dwindles. She keeps telling you she really isn't into sex that much. All the kinky shit you want to do. Well she isn't that type of girl. But in all actuality she isn't that type of girl with you. I've heard stories where guys found out their wives were giving up the booty to their AP when she refused to do anal, or only did it on special nights with her husband. That's just one example. Then yall have kids and then the sex becomes non existent for one excuse after another. You really think women don't know men live for sex. Most men want to fuck at least if not multiple times a day. No they just clearly don't give a fuck about your needs. You already have them ask they need. A stable relationship or marriage. Kids. Nice house. She gets the new car while you drive the old one. Like WTF are your balls? And she knows she has all the negotiating power because you don't want to leave. You still love a woman who clearly gives two shits about you. It you know that if you leave, her and the courts are going to DP you with a strap on. So what incentive does she have to give you some pussy? If all these mature women yall keep finding now apparently want to fuck, you think your wives are any different? You really think they aren't into sex. Unless they have some hormone imbalance. No they want to fuck. They just don't want to fuck you because they don't respect you.Wow, you guys is jaded, LOL.
But seriously, sorry to hear about some of your situations. I've been married for almost 32 years now. And although there have been ups and downs, it's been a good marriage. Granted, I like sex more frequently than she does, but we actually have some great sex.
Wishing you all success in your searches!
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