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Statistically, what are the Hawaii football team's worst problems this season?
As you know, the NCAA keeps comparative stats for 125 FBS football teams. Today's updated stats for this season (including yesterday's games) rank the UH football team 124 out of 125 teams on passing completion percentage; 123 out of 125 teams for passing efficiency; 115 of 125 for third-down conversion percentage; 108 for least quarterback sacks allowed per game; 108 (sharing the lowest ranking because of ties) for red-zone defense; 104 for least tackles for loss allowed per game; 101 for defensive quarterback sacks per game; and 100 in scoring offense (points per game).
So, just solve all of those offensive and defensive problems and everything will be fine (smile).
Hornysamowen
09-27-14, 08:32
Does any one have any good tips on this weekends football games.
Lowlys One
09-27-14, 15:45
Fellow Mongers,
If Chow doesn't win a minimum of 5 games this year, he needs to be let go. If I were Ben Jay, I would strongly consider someone young and fresh, possibly Nick Rolovich, who is currently the Offensive Coordinator at the University of Nevada-Reno. After all, he played his college ball here under June Jones, and I think locals here would consider Rolo a new, fresh start. I like what JJ did for UH's football program, but he may request a higher salary then they can afford. Rolo on the other hand, would be easier to pay because he is very young (in his mid 30's) with no head coaching experience, and thus would be a cheaper hire for UH than June Jones.
Happy and Safe Mongering.
Grave Diggah.I agree with you Grave but if I'm not mistaken his contract is structured in such a way that if we let him go without cause (I don't think losing to much, is a cause with regards to his contract, of course imo, that's a great cause, aint up to me though) we will have to pay the remaining of his contract which would be two more years, equalling about 750 k total, then add the cost for finding his replacement. The university will be in a terrible spot if he fails as a head coach, our best bet is to stick behind him and wish for the best, I don't see any other options, we're stuck with him at least until after his fourth year, then it would only cost 200 k to buy out the fifth year of his contract. My best guess is he be back for his fourth year no matter how bad this year goes. Hence we haven't heard any discontent from the universities brass, cause they know the situation and any back talk about coach Chow can only worsen the situation, so mums the word until after his fourth year. Just my opinion, who knows they may be brewing something up that we don't know about.
I agree with you Grave but if I'm not mistaken his contract is structured in such a way that if we let him go without cause (I don't think losing to much, is a cause with regards to his contract, of course imo, that's a great cause, aint up to me though) we will have to pay the remaining of his contract which would be two more years, equalling about 750 k total, then add the cost for finding his replacement. The university will be in a terrible spot if he fails as a head coach, our best bet is to stick behind him and wish for the best, I don't see any other options, we're stuck with him at least until after his fourth year, then it would only cost 200 k to buy out the fifth year of his contract. My best guess is he be back for his fourth year no matter how bad this year goes. Hence we haven't heard any discontent from the universities brass, cause they know the situation and any back talk about coach Chow can only worsen the situation, so mums the word until after his fourth year. Just my opinion, who knows they may be brewing something up that we don't know about. Pursuant to the terms of Norm Chow's contract, upon written notice of ninety days the university has the right to terminate him "without cause". Then within thirty days of his without-cause termination, the university would be required to pay him (as a lump sum) his total remaining base salary through December 31 of 2015, plus $200,000 for the final year of the contract. The university would also be required to reimburse him for "reasonable, substantiated work performance related expenses" that were incurred by him.
Interestingly, his contract also gives various examples of "cause" for termination, but none of them involve simply losing too many football games. Rather, they include NCAA rules violations (in some circumstances); conduct that is illegal, causes "notorious and public scandal," or "displays a continual or serious disrespect or disregard for the character of the university"; prolonged, non-excused absence from the university; "committing material or repeated violations" of his contract or university policies; or, after notice of the university's expectations, "refusing or failing to perform any duties reasonably related to Coach's position, or failing to perform the same to the best of Coach's ability".
Chowball sucks.
He turned the Run-and-Shoot to the Run-and-Punt!
Every time he runs the ball up the middle!
Hawaii fans used to cheer for touchdowns, now we cheer for first downs!
And WTF with the rainbow logo and Kelly green uniforms last year?? Fuck that shit!
I wish that dyke biyatch Greenwood didn't fire Greg McMackin!
At least we we were winning games back in 2011.
Pursuant to the terms of Norm Chow's contract, upon written notice of ninety days the university has the right to terminate him "without cause". Then within thirty days of his without-cause termination, the university would be required to pay him (as a lump sum) his total remaining base salary through December 31 of 2015, plus $200,000 for the final year of the contract. The university would also be required to reimburse him for "reasonable, substantiated work performance related expenses" that were incurred by him.
Interestingly, his contract also gives various examples of "cause" for termination, but none of them involve simply losing too many football games. Rather, they include NCAA rules violations (in some circumstances); conduct that is illegal, causes "notorious and public scandal," or "displays a continual or serious disrespect or disregard for the character of the university"; prolonged, non-excused absence from the university; "committing material or repeated violations" of his contract or university policies; or, after notice of the university's expectations, "refusing or failing to perform any duties reasonably related to Coach's position, or failing to perform the same to the best of Coach's ability".This "contract" is plain stupid, meant just to protect the administration from embarrassment from the so called "June Jones" drama. How can they even define what is "reasonable in regards to a coach's "best ability" when it clearly shows he is incompetent for the last 3 years, complying one of the worst college statistics in the nation?
Also is it not a glaring fact that since this loser Chow started, the profit ratings has going downhill and getting much worse with too many empty seats even though the university made it a mandatory for ALL students to pay a fee to support the football program?
The students and faculty should demand a refund from his contract since it is directly linked to this forced fee payment which has nothing to do with their studies, yet the students are penalized for Chow's incompetence. Fire him without any compensation besides he had the indecency to ride in a limousine instead of a taxi or UH shuttle (free of charge) that certainly was paid for by somebody, while students have their tuition increased.
In this respect, he and the university has already violated provisions of this contract already. Fire him and let June Jones take over the remaining contract, if he can turn it around, then give him a bonus.
Hornysamowen
09-27-14, 23:23
Chowball sucks.
He turned the Run-and-Shoot to the Run-and-Punt!
Every time he runs the ball up the middle!
Hawaii fans used to cheer for touchdowns, now we cheer for first downs!
And WTF with the rainbow logo and Kelly green uniforms last year?? Fuck that shit!
I wish that dyke biyatch Greenwood didn't fire Greg McMackin!
At least we we were winning games back in 2011.Whats also messed up is the AD Jay changing the name of uh Warriors to Rainbows, WTF! All those years that Jones did to build the football program to where it peaked, all undone by an outsider by going back to the Rainbows. Jay should get fired for that, coachs can't recruit with the current name and uniforms.
Whats also messed up is the AD Jay changing the name of uh Warriors to Rainbows, WTF! All those years that Jones did to build the football program to where it peaked, all undone by an outsider by going back to the Rainbows. Jay should get fired for that, coachs can't recruit with the current name and uniforms.You got good points, I thought the gay / lesbian got the rights to the rainbow icon? Sure, who wants to be associated with a loser football team that is connected to some homo symbol? Maybe they should go all the way and change the mascot to some 400 lb transvette that currently prowl the side streets in Wahiawa at nights? How about changing the football team name to "Broke Back"?
And that homo-sexual deviant obese Greenwood and her sidekick, another lesbo shacking up basically got kicked out from her previous university job got hired from stupid UH officials.
Hornysamowen
10-03-14, 17:22
There is some great games this weekend, anyone have any scoops on which teams they taking? Oreagon ducks and Marcus what happened? There goes the heisman and national championship hopes.
Whats also messed up is the AD Jay changing the name of uh Warriors to Rainbows, WTF! All those years that Jones did to build the football program to where it peaked, all undone by an outsider by going back to the Rainbows. Jay should get fired for that, coachs can't recruit with the current name and uniforms.The name change came from all the old school UH fans who pressured jay into changing it back. Basically long time season ticket buyers for whatever sport. You know all the golden age fans always being shown on tv. The people who concistantly donate money into UH athletics. Jay was forced to go with that. His plan was to have all the sports programs be called warriors if I'm not mistaken.
There is some great games this weekend, anyone have any scoops on which teams they taking? Oreagon ducks and Marcus what happened? There goes the heisman and national championship hopes.Ducks choked.
There is some great games this weekend, anyone have any scoops on which teams they taking? Oreagon ducks and Marcus what happened? There goes the heisman and national championship hopes.I'm going with Alabama -6,California +3 1/2,Michigan st -7,Nevada +4,Florida st. -37 1/2.
Ducks choked.Interesting weekend in college football. Ducks might be back in the hunt, just depends how far they drop.
I'm going with Alabama -6,California +3 1/2,Michigan st -7,Nevada +4,Florida st. -37 1/2.2-3 day. Dam hate these kind losts when Bama was covering late and Michigan st was blowing out Nebraska but that's the way football goes. I guess only sure thing is our Warriors will lose every Saturday.
Ducks might be back in the hunt, just depends how far they drop.
Oreagon ducks and Marcus what happened? There goes the heisman and national championship hopes.As long as Oregon doesn't lose another game, I think Oregon may still have a good chance of being selected as one of the four teams in this season's national championship playoffs. Even under the two-team BCS system, many one-loss teams were playing in the national championship game: Alabama (twice), Auburn, Florida (twice), Florida State (twice), LSU, Nebraska, Ohio State and Oklahoma (twice). In 2007, LSU played in the national championship game even after two losses. At this early stage of the current season there are still ten undefeated teams, but one is from a minor conference. As the season progresses and fewer games are being played against out-of-conference "cupcakes," most of those teams will sustain one or more losses.
As long as Oregon doesn't lose another game, I think Oregon may still have a good chance of being selected as one of the four teams in this season's national championship playoffs. Even under the two-team BCS system, many one-loss teams were playing in the national championship game: Alabama (twice), Auburn, Florida (twice), Florida State (twice), LSU, Nebraska, Ohio State and Oklahoma (twice). In 2007, LSU played in the national championship game even after two losses. At this early stage of the current season there are still ten undefeated teams, but one is from a minor conference. As the season progresses and fewer games are being played against out-of-conference "cupcakes," most of those teams will sustain one or more losses.What a weekend it was for college football! Numbers 2,3,4 6 and 8 all were upset. According to ESPN this many top 10 teams losing in the same week hasn't happened since 1990. Right now looks like only FSU is assured a spot in the playoffs. There could possibly be one or two 2 loss teams in there as well.
As long as Oregon doesn't lose another game, I think Oregon may still have a good chance of being selected as one of the four teams in this season's national championship playoffs. Even under the two-team BCS system, many one-loss teams were playing in the national championship game: Alabama (twice), Auburn, Florida (twice), Florida State (twice), LSU, Nebraska, Ohio State and Oklahoma (twice). In 2007, LSU played in the national championship game even after two losses. At this early stage of the current season there are still ten undefeated teams, but one is from a minor conference. As the season progresses and fewer games are being played against out-of-conference "cupcakes," most of those teams will sustain one or more losses.Here are two more factors relevant to my original post. First, if Oregon had to lose one game, it was better to lose the one game now rather than later in the season. Oregon will have sufficient time to gradually climb upward in the polls (if Oregon doesn't lose again), and more recent losses will probably have more impact on the playoff team selection committee than older losses. Second, some of the currently undefeated teams will necessarily sustain at least one loss because of games scheduled against other currently undefeated teams. For example: Florida State v. Notre Dame, Baylor v. TCU, Auburn v. Mississippi State, Auburn v. Mississippi, and Mississippi v. Mississippi State.
What a weekend it was for college football! Numbers 2,3,4 6 and 8 all were upset. According to ESPN this many top 10 teams losing in the same week hasn't happened since 1990.I stand corrected. They're saying "it's the first time since the inception of the AP Poll that 5 out of the top 8 teams lost in the same weekend".
Wow UH has opened as a 2 1/2 point favorite next week? Is Wyoming that bad?
Hornysamowen
10-06-14, 17:21
What a weekend it was for college football! Numbers 2,3,4 6 and 8 all were upset. According to ESPN this many top 10 teams losing in the same week hasn't happened since 1990. Right now looks like only FSU is assured a spot in the playoffs. There could possibly be one or two 2 loss teams in there as well.What a brutal weekend all around. Win some lose some. Better luck this week.
Captin Crunch
10-06-14, 19:27
Mnf: Seahawks or Redskins?
Wow UH has opened as a 2 1/2 point favorite next week? Is Wyoming that bad?Its just another ruse attempt to breathe some "life" into a dead horse that died as soon as Chow took over UH.
This loser team already has the worst record for coach Chow's incompetence and stupidity making an ass out of college football, but at the same time fleecing taxpayers in $millions throughout his lousy 3 years and counting his welfare pay checks for non performance.
Chow's record is surpassing VonAppen's record and actually making him look good! Maybe Chow should get off the playing field and go to the massage parlor? At least June Jones got a winning record and could also more than "satisfy" his bedding of women both old and young.
I wonder if Chow can even get his pecker up for the occasion?
Hornysamowen
10-06-14, 19:50
Mnf: Seahawks or Redskins?Got to go wit the chawks on dis one, bradas.
Wow UH has opened as a 2 1/2 point favorite next week? Is Wyoming that bad?UH is now a 5 point favorite? I just don't see why peeps Betting on UH unless peeps think Taylor Graham is the answer to there offense?
Hornysamowen
10-12-14, 07:06
Titanz, ravenz, jets, lionz, packerz, steelerz, pantherz, patriotz, chargerz, cowboyz, cardinalz, falconz, eaglez, 49 erz, my pickz 4 Sunday. Good luck brahddazzz.
VanilBeanLover
10-13-14, 07:51
I think this is almost a sure thing, San Francisco 49 ers baby.
Captin Crunch
10-13-14, 10:20
I think this is almost a sure thing, San Francisco 49 ers baby.I think so too, but anything can happen on MNF. Especially against the spread!!!
Hornysamowen
10-13-14, 20:17
I think so too, but anything can happen on MNF. Especially against the spread!!!But the spread on this one is manini, anything more than I would reconsider. Got to go with SF.
Hornysamowen
10-15-14, 07:45
Man, I'm going with the NE Patriots at home, 31 to 13, what do you guys think.
According to the cable guide, KITV is pre-empting the Florida St. Notre Dame game with Hurricane Ana broadcast. WTF I hope we don't miss a good game. Any bars got ESPN3?
According to the cable guide, KITV is pre-empting the Florida St. Notre Dame game with Hurricane Ana broadcast. WTF I hope we don't miss a good game. Any bars got ESPN3?Dunno about any bars. You can watch them on the watchespn app. Hope it isn't blacked out here.
Any thoughts in the Hawaii game? Hawaii is getting 8. 5 points.
Peace out.
Hornysamowen
10-18-14, 19:19
According to the cable guide, KITV is pre-empting the Florida St. Notre Dame game with Hurricane Ana broadcast. WTF I hope we don't miss a good game. Any bars got ESPN3?I think you can stream Espn 3 on your computer or smart phone, under watch espn app. If KITV is pre- empting the game, then they are fukin retarded, some wealthy ND aulumnus should buy that station and fire everybody there for being an idiot. Fire Lie Hagi too.
I think you can stream Espn 3 on your computer or smart phone, under watch espn app. If KITV is pre- empting the game, then they are fukin retarded, some wealthy ND aulumnus should buy that station and fire everybody there for being an idiot. Fire Lie Hagi too.You are right brah, just checked the TV guide and it's a fuking News special WTF.
All good. ABC showing the game. It's now 2 pm. Go Noles!!
I think you can stream Espn 3 on your computer or smart phone, under watch espn app. If KITV is pre- empting the game, then they are fukin retarded, some wealthy ND aulumnus should buy that station and fire everybody there for being an idiot. Fire Lie Hagi too.Thanks didn't think about that. There's still time hope they reconsider since Ana doesn't pose any immediate danger unless it suddenly veers north.
There was previously some discussion on this Sports Chat thread about whether Norm Chow's contract should be terminated early with a buyout. The Honolulu Star-Advertiser's online poll for this Tuesday addressed that issue. The question was:
"What do you think about UH football coach Norm Chow's contract, which expires Dec. 31, 2016?"
Only 16 percent of respondents voted to renew the contract, while 39 percent voted for an "early buyout". However, the largest number, 45 percent, voted simply to not renew the contract. That would have the effect of keeping Chow as the Hawaii coach for two more seasons (2015 and 2016). Personally, I think that result was influenced by the large combined cost of buying out Chow's contract and hiring a new coach with a successful record.
Hornysamowen
10-23-14, 20:04
There was previously some discussion on this Sports Chat thread about whether Norm Chow's contract should be terminated early with a buyout. The Honolulu Star-Advertiser's online poll for this Tuesday addressed that issue. The question was:
"What do you think about UH football coach Norm Chow's contract, which expires Dec. 31, 2016?"
Only 16 percent of respondents voted to renew the contract, while 39 percent voted for an "early buyout". However, the largest number, 45 percent, voted simply to not renew the contract. That would have the effect of keeping Chow as the Hawaii coach for two more seasons (2015 and 2016). Personally, I think that result was influenced by the large combined cost of buying out Chow's contract and hiring a new coach with a successful record.UH can't affored to fire him or buy out his contract, just let him finsh and hope for the best, I don't follow the rainbow football team any way, there are other teams and games to keep me occupied. Only go to the games once in a while to tailgate and eat good food and drink. Feel sorry for the players, all the hard work and no support and the star running back could not even get a free pass from hpd, sad.
Lowlys One
10-26-14, 15:36
UH can't affored to fire him or buy out his contract, just let him finsh and hope for the best, I don't follow the rainbow football team any way, there are other teams and games to keep me occupied. Only go to the games once in a while to tailgate and eat good food and drink. Feel sorry for the players, all the hard work and no support and the star running back could not even get a free pass from hpd, sad.Yeah I agree we just can't afford to do anything with Norm except back him to the end and at least look like good loyal employers for the next regime taking over. Funny thing is imo were only a very good qb away from competing for at least the west half of the MWC this year and next year, you would think Norm would have a bevy of promising qb's lining up to play for him but not only we don't, but there isn't even one promising young qb on the roster, wth Norm, that's just a lack of performance on him and his staff, plain and simple!
This is good they finally got rid of Gib Arnald who has really done nothing with the talent the basketball team has had during his regime. I just hope rumors about them bringing Riley Wallace back are not true and they go find someone that can win and get us to the NCAA Tournament.
Lowlys One
10-29-14, 06:23
This is good they finally got rid of Gib Arnald who has really done nothing with the talent the basketball team has had during his regime. I just hope rumors about them bringing Riley Wallace back are not true and they go find someone that can win and get us to the NCAA Tournament.Hey DaViper, I know you don't like Gib, but wth happened here? Is it because of the Akana deal? That hardly seems fair, something is wrong here, is there something we don't know about, it seem like a total overreaction, I wouldn't be surprised if Gib ends up suing and for the life of me, I don't see anything he did to warrant being fired!? Like the university can afford it either, cause I think he'd win! Idk but Ben Jay, better be more forthcoming with info the next day or two, cause he got some explaining to do, else I'm thinking, yeah someones got to go alright, and it Gib either!
I wouldn't be surprised if Gib ends up suing and for the life of me, I don't see anything he did to warrant being fired!? At the current time, it doesn't seem that Gib Arnold would have a basis to sue the university. Pursuant to his contract he was given three months of advance notice (he will retain an "employed" status under the contract for three more months, although not coaching), and he will receive "a lump sum payment for the remainder of his contract term" (which was set to expire on June 30, 2015). So this appears to be the type of "without cause" termination that's commonly allowed by college coaching contracts.
Hey DaViper, I know you don't like Gib, but wth happened here? Is it because of the Akana deal? That hardly seems fair, something is wrong here, is there something we don't know about, it seem like a total overreaction, I wouldn't be surprised if Gib ends up suing and for the life of me, I don't see anything he did to warrant being fired!? Like the university can afford it either, cause I think he'd win! Idk but Ben Jay, better be more forthcoming with info the next day or two, cause he got some explaining to do, else I'm thinking, yeah someones got to go alright, and it Gib either!Gib got fired probably because he is the leader of a program that was being investigated by the NCAA and they probably know they did something wrong that's why Akana was suspended last year and also fired. Plus something was going on over there cause look how many players left the program. Also I'm pretty sure Ben Jay wasn't happy with Gib either that's why they didn't extend his contract before all of this happened.
I always hear people say the UH can't afford to fire coaches but do any of you ever notice most people who say they don't have money always seem to be able to buy stuff that they really don't need?
I always hear people say the UH can't afford to fire coaches but do any of you ever notice most people who say they don't have money always seem to be able to buy stuff that they really don't need?At the rate that Chow is taking UH football team, better to fire him and re-hire VonAppen! Give VonAppen a chance to "improve" his losing record since Chow already surpassed it on the road losses being the worst in the nation.
At least Chow has some competition to some "fame" for the "bottom of the barrel" accomplishments! What a loser, being paid more than the governor for losing.
Hornysamowen
10-29-14, 20:15
At the rate that Chow is taking UH football team, better to fire him and re-hire VonAppen! Give VonAppen a chance to "improve" his losing record since Chow already surpassed it on the road losses being the worst in the nation.
At least Chow has some competition to some "fame" for the "bottom of the barrel" accomplishments! What a loser, being paid more than the governor for losing.If he does not want to retire or resign, they should keep him and let him go for the record of 0 and 24 for the next two years to finish up his contract. It will be one of his most notable accomplishments of his long and storid coaching career. Go rainbows.
Lowlys One
10-30-14, 16:15
At the current time, it doesn't seem that Gib Arnold would have a basis to sue the university. Pursuant to his contract he was given three months of advance notice (he will retain an "employed" status under the contract for three more months, although not coaching), and he will receive "a lump sum payment for the remainder of his contract term" (which was set to expire on June 30, 2015). So this appears to be the type of "without cause" termination that's commonly allowed by college coaching contracts.So basically they just didn't renew his contract and termination in cases like this means will be compensated the rest of his contract without work, so the university said were so sick of you, we'll pay you to leave! What leaves me with a sour taste is because of the timing and compensation to split, there seems to be an association between his termination and the NCAA investigation and the fact that Ben jay never said anything in the press confrence to try and separate the two (termination and investigation) which I guess charaterizes their (Gib and Ben jays) relationship, as antagonistic almost malicious. Why would Ben do certain things and not do certain things, to try and distance themselves from the media's association between Gib's termination and NCAA investigation? The only thing I can see is spite, total dislike for Arnold. You would think the first thing the university would want to do is separate the two, so as to avoid any potential slander suit, cause it really seems as though he was fired for the investigation, which is still ongoing (meaning no one is to be blamed, at this point) and so far has nothing on Gib as being involved at all, so his contract wasn't extended because a simple fact that there is a chance Gib did something to warrant an investigation? I can certainly see why Arnold would be very angry and feeling unjust with his termination. Why isn't Ben jay trying to communicate with the press that they were two separate incidents (even if they aren't) to keep Arnold from making things ugly and difficult for both sides? Why couldn't have Ben tell Gib in private he wasn't going to be extended another contract, and he was going to be paid out of his existing contract, but was free to pursue other endevors, and would be going public at a time better suited for both sides? Instead its the opposite, wth? This has got me questioning Ben jay's intelligence ( I know he a very bright person but....) and competance!
So basically they just didn't renew his contract and termination in cases like this means will be compensated the rest of his contract without work, so the university said were so sick of you, we'll pay you to leave! What leaves me with a sour taste is because of the timing and compensation to split, there seems to be an association between his termination and the NCAA investigation and the fact that Ben jay never said anything in the press confrence to try and separate the two (termination and investigation) which I guess charaterizes their (Gib and Ben jays) relationship, as antagonistic almost malicious. Why would Ben do certain things and not do certain things, to try and distance themselves from the media's association between Gib's termination and NCAA investigation? The only thing I can see is spite, total dislike for Arnold. You would think the first thing the university would want to do is separate the two, so as to avoid any potential slander suit, cause it really seems as though he was fired for the investigation, which is still ongoing (meaning no one is to be blamed, at this point) and so far has nothing on Gib as being involved at all, so his contract wasn't extended because a simple fact that there is a chance Gib did something to warrant an investigation? I can certainly see why Arnold would be very angry and feeling unjust with his termination. Why isn't Ben jay trying to communicate with the press that they were two separate incidents (even if they aren't) to keep Arnold from making things ugly and difficult for both sides? Why couldn't have Ben tell Gib in private he wasn't going to be extended another contract, and he was going to be paid out of his existing contract, but was free to pursue other endevors, and would be going public at a time better suited for both sides? Instead its the opposite, wth? This has got me questioning Ben jay's intelligence ( I know he a very bright person but....) and competance!The whole story will come out after NCAA tells what they found. . right now UH is doing that self punishment so NCAA don't come down extra hard on them. I get you like Gib Arnald but look they suspended there best Player Fotu so something we all don't know that UH knows has happened. Justweed to wait til NCAA reveals findings.
Lowlys One
10-31-14, 11:48
The whole story will come out after NCAA tells what they found. . right now UH is doing that self punishment so NCAA don't come down extra hard on them. I get you like Gib Arnald but look they suspended there best Player Fotu so something we all don't know that UH knows has happened. Justweed to wait til NCAA reveals findings.Hey you know what I find absolutely unbelievable, is that fact that to even be eligble to enroll into the University of Hawaii at Manoa you are required to have reached a level of math of at least 103 (Trigonometry) before enrolling into the university, because the lowest math teached is level 135 which is precalculus! So what this means is that every football player on the team has reached the level of trigonometry (103), before enrolling into the university. Why does it feel like I'm the only one who would find this fact, absolutely impossible, there is no way, none, no chance that every single player has fullfilled this requirement, I can gaurentee, if anyone would investigate the'd find a whole shit load of infractions there, and at every university which has the same curriculum as we. Isn't this so obvious, yet no one cares to investigate?
Hey you know what I find absolutely unbelievable, is that fact that to even be eligble to enroll into the University of Hawaii at Manoa you are required to have reached a level of math of at least 103 (Trigonometry) before enrolling into the university, because the lowest math teached is level 135 which is precalculus! So what this means is that every football player on the team has reached the level of trigonometry (103), before enrolling into the university. Why does it feel like I'm the only one who would find this fact, absolutely impossible, there is no way, none, no chance that every single player has fullfilled this requirement, I can gaurentee, if anyone would investigate the'd find a whole shit load of infractions there, and at every university which has the same curriculum as we. Isn't this so obvious, yet no one cares to investigate?The thing I not understanding is if I'm not mistaken they saying the UH turned themselves into the NCAA? Why would they do that?
Hey you know what I find absolutely unbelievable, is that fact that to even be eligble to enroll into the University of Hawaii at Manoa you are required to have reached a level of math of at least 103 (Trigonometry) before enrolling into the university, because the lowest math teached is level 135 which is precalculus!?It depends, my math level was lower than that when I got accepted at the junior transfer level. I got in a special research program and probably the football players got a waiver to be enrolled too, probably through the scholarship program.
Some of the players are stupid as hell, had an English class with a couple players who only showed up in the beginning and was gone the rest of the semester. They all had tutors assigned to them.
Lowlys One
10-31-14, 21:01
It depends, my math level was lower than that when I got accepted at the junior transfer level. I got in a special research program and probably the football players got a waiver to be enrolled too, probably through the scholarship program.
Some of the players are stupid as hell, had an English class with a couple players who only showed up in the beginning and was gone the rest of the semester. They all had tutors assigned to them.In this special program, (BTW, what is the program called and how does one qualify, just curious) what level math and english were available? I mean I'm not calling every football player dumb, but having a level math of 103 (trig), or 100 (statistics) fresh out of high school is far above your average person. And BTW if I'm not mistaken English is the same as math, English 100 isn't available at Manoa, meaning you have at least the 100 level to enroll, I can only shake my head when the NCAA takes issue with some things (usually money, especially when it means less for them) but completely turns a blind eye to others (usually the issues which would put their ability to make money at risk). I'm telling you that tutor thing they have to help the athletes, there you will find in just about every university that has a football program, violations, so numerous, repeated, a pattern of violation that would put many if not all schools to death, yet nothing is said!
Lowlys One
11-01-14, 07:36
The thing I not understanding is if I'm not mistaken they saying the UH turned themselves into the NCAA? Why would they do that?Hmm, the only reason I can see, or would make any sense with the information that is here, is they (coaching staff) were doing something deliberately wrong and decided that since either they (coaching staff's bosses, I say bosses because it may be even higher than the athletic director) had made up their minds with regards to extendening Coach Arnolds contract or already had knew they weren't extending, but certainly not terminating his contract either, in effect turning a blind eye to the violations, yet reaping the reward also. But soon a guilty conscious took the better of them (A. The. On up), hearing rumors (you {the A. The. On up} know to be true) and fearing the thought of being guilty by omission (which is true), decided that self reporting would exonerate themselves (A. The. And up) from any wrong doing, keep you. H. Athletics above water, at what expense? Coach Arnold and the staff, who weren't going to be around anyway by June, what a perfect script! Sorry bro, that's what you get when you ask a guy like me with an active imagination a "why would they " question, took the ball and ran! Information written above is purely fictitous, but watch me try to convince you otherwise!
Hmm, the only reason I can see, or would make any sense with the information that is here, is they (coaching staff) were doing something deliberately wrong and decided that since either they (coaching staff's bosses, I say bosses because it may be even higher than the athletic director) had made up their minds with regards to extendening Coach Arnolds contract or already had knew they weren't extending, but certainly not terminating his contract either, in effect turning a blind eye to the violations, yet reaping the reward also. But soon a guilty conscious took the better of them (A. The. On up), hearing rumors (you {the A. The. On up} know to be true) and fearing the thought of being guilty by omission (which is true), decided that self reporting would exonerate themselves (A. The. And up) from any wrong doing, keep you. H. Athletics above water, at what expense? Coach Arnold and the staff, who weren't going to be around anyway by June, what a perfect script! Sorry bro, that's what you get when you ask a guy like me with an active imagination a "why would they " question, took the ball and ran! Information written above is purely fictitous, but watch me try to convince you otherwise!Nah you could be right cause think about it the NCAA wouldn't know anything if UH never say anything unless a teammate got jealous and told someone higher at UH about Fotu iPad? What a mess there in.
Lowlys One
11-01-14, 22:15
Nah you could be right cause think about it the NCAA wouldn't know anything if UH never say anything unless a teammate got jealous and told someone higher at UH about Fotu iPad? What a mess there in.Well we know someone representing the university self reported to the NCAA, hopefully it is as simple as the scenerio you've described, now that I think about it, no doubt Akana is guilty, but why would he act out on his own (maybe his passion for Hawaii basketball got the better of him, idk, highly unlikely), especially with something that would be recorded (student transcript for admission) and taken as evidence, prolly work opposite his passion for Hawaii basketball would prevent him from any wrong doing, with the reasoning that if I get caught doing anything in violation he would no longer have an association with Hawaii basketball, that sounds more reasonable, even likely. But if he had someone's approval or had been acting on someone's direction, then even a person with a passion for Hawaii basketball, could come to reason in his mind that it would be what's best for the program. So I guess my man Gib, would be the first person to be looked upon, he says this "The Hawaii fans need to know that we are doing the best we can to run a program they can be proud of. We are not paying players, committing academic fraud, putting our student-athletes in harm's way or treating them poorly.
"We have yet to even receive a notice of any possible allegations from the NCAA. Nor have we been given our mandated 90 days to respond to any allegations. If there has been anything administratively in our program where we have fallen short we will learn from it and correct it immediately. " That part " commiting academic fraud" he completely denies this in no other words, no round about, answer, denies it completely! But then what's up with this part "if there has been anything administratively in our program where we have fallen short, we will learn from it and correct it immediately"? Say it it so Gib, my man, get up there and tell them it aint so please, and then stick to it! Idk about that second paragraph, sounds like a man trying to leave an opening out of his direct denial, he made in the first paragraph! Ok he's prolly involved, still doesn't answer the question who squeeled to the administration? Another question in my mind is could it have been just Gib telling Brandyn, just between the two? The university seems by action, believe it to be the case, if so then I guess he wasnt as close to or couldn't trust Benjy Taylor, which would make me believe that the university has gotten to the bottom of this, comfortable enough to call Benjy Taylor the interim head coach, it speaks volumes to me. Still no answer as to who the hell squeeled though!
CSU is leading UH at end of 1st quarter and if they win, UH will have the honors of leading the nation on the longest losing on road streak.
Yeah, coach Chow has really "delivered" the goods after first embarking from a limousine when introduced as the next "successful" UH football coach. He makes us really proud to have such a distinguished national recognition status being number ONE again, surpassing VonAppen's legendary reputation.
Final score UH 22 to CSU 49.Yep, UH is ranked #1 in road loss streak 17 losses in a row and counting. Disgrunted fans are talking about starting a "Buyout" fund to get rid of coach Chow, but I think he actually owes the taxpayers for failing to deliver.
Hell I won't offer him one penny to be wheeled out into the pasture for such an embarrassment. He should be fired and told to go "suck rocks" without any buyout exit parachute. What a loser.
Lowlys One
11-09-14, 06:43
Yep, UH is ranked #1 in road loss streak 17 losses in a row and counting. Disgrunted fans are talking about starting a "Buyout" fund to get rid of coach Chow, but I think he actually owes the taxpayers for failing to deliver.
Hell I won't offer him one penny to be wheeled out into the pasture for such an embarrassment. He should be fired and told to go "suck rocks" without any buyout exit parachute. What a loser.Yep, on first thought sounds like an idea, then second thought, he should pay us back some! Well next year has got to be the year, I hope. Rather speechless for now as it shouldbe.
Yep, on first thought sounds like an idea, then second thought, he should pay us back some! Well next year has got to be the year, I hope. Rather speechless for now as it shouldbe.I would be very surprise if there is a next year for Chow. Even the people who likes Chow and been saying give him time has to know that Chow is not a good Head Coach. Every week listen to what he says after the games We need to get better at that and we will? He is done no doubt.
This could be Mariotas year 1st Heisman 2nd National Championship 3rd #1 NFL Draft pick all he has to do is run the table.
It's only 1 game but I like the look of this team. Alot of turnovers but looks like this team has players that can shoot the ball.
Lowlys One
11-15-14, 06:36
This could be Mariotas year 1st Heisman 2nd National Championship 3rd #1 NFL Draft pick all he has to do is run the table.Hope you are right Mariota and the Ducks win out, claim a national championship and claim a Heisman award winner! But I got to tell you they look shaky on defense and looks like a stout physical defense such as any S. E. see. Representative will surely boast, can shut that high scoring offense down and shut it down completely. Heck they still got to get past Oregon State and Arizona State, which has been a problem in the past. Stay tuned for those two games! Anyway getting to my next topic which is Miami of Florida will beat Florida State tomorrow, yes that's right! Honestly the only thing Florida State has is Jameis, otherwise a very average football team in every facet of the game, not impressed by them at all and especially the arrogance this Jameis Winston has been displaying off the field throughout his short college career, his behavior is a disgrace to the Heisman and his university. But what he lacks off field he more than makes up for it on the field, fricken guy is lights outs, big time, big lights, big arena, when the chips are down this guy is incredible, really incredible, god he so lucky cause if not, they'd be teams thinking twice about drafting him with their first pick, highly unlikely given his play though! Hopefully he grows up! So in short Florida State is out and so is Miss State, cause Alabama will roll tomorrow as well, Tide 24- Miss St. 14. Top six rankings goes 1. Alabama 2. Oregon 3. T. see. You. 4. Baylor 5. Arizona St. 6. Miss State. I also think Ohio State if they win out could make thing interesting, but I think Miss St. Will be back after their loss tomorrow, they go on and win out, to jump back in at the end, yep there you have it, my predictions for the college playoffs! Final playoff rankings I have it looking like this 1. Alabama 2. Oregon (yep, they will get by just barely, though) 3. T. see. You. 4. Miss. St. (They end up beating both Vandy and Ole Miss.).
I would be very surprise if there is a next year for Chow. Even the people who likes Chow and been saying give him time has to know that Chow is not a good Head Coach. Every week listen to what he says after the games We need to get better at that and we will? He is done no doubt.UH shuts out SJS 13-0. Great job guys.
UH shuts out SJS 13-0. Great job guys.So what are you trying to say Chow's a good Head Coach? Its Good they stopped there record road losing streak.
So what are you trying to say Chow's a good Head Coach? Its Good they stopped there record road losing streak.Team still plays hard.
Team still plays hard.I agree this UH team has played with Heart this whole season but when you keep losing the way they been nobody is going to the games and as Ben Jay said and we all know this Football is the UH money maker or right now money breaker. They need to start winning so peeps would go to the game's and if Chow is the head coach next year unless they start winning nobody will be going to the games.
I agree this UH team has played with Heart this whole season but when you keep losing the way they been nobody is going to the games and as Ben Jay said and we all know this Football is the UH money maker or right now money breaker. They need to start winning so peeps would go to the game's and if Chow is the head coach next year unless they start winning nobody will be going to the games.Good point bro hope UH gets back to winning seasons.
Team still plays hard.Chow needs to get fired as soon as the season is over.
Lowlys One
11-16-14, 07:17
I'm still not impressed with this team, but after today winning at Miami, all kind holes in the defense, off and on offensively, except in the second half, they on, so far always, for almost two years now, shit maybe they'll never give me that look, the Alabama look. But after today I won't doubt they can win against anybody, only cause they get that arrogant, do whatevers to whoever because I always win, that's why guy! This guy makes Cam Newtown (in college days) look almost holy. Did he help himself to soft drinks refills after asking for only a cup for water at a burger king, did he help himself to over 30.00 dollars worth of crab legs at a super market, then having the nerve to tell police he forgot to pay for the crab, after being questioned about it? Was it him with his buddies going around campus with bb guns and having shoot outs, responsible for over 4 k worth of damages they caused to the university, then having such contempt for anybody or anything and fails to even show up at a code of conduct hearing for the incident? Oh yeah and the incident at school where he ends up being suspended for the first half of their season opener, for screaming sexually explicit nonsense while jumping up on a table on campus no regards for fellow students and teamates alike. Then the latest about 750 signed memorabilia by him of course, starts showing up around town, I know what his story will be, I never charged the guy for signing any of the 750 or so items, yeah just like the story where he claims to not sexually assaulting a coed on campus, he claims consentual, she only regognizes him after seeing him on campus one day, oblivous to his star qb, do whatevers to who evers and then if they asked tell them anything you feel like, cause I'm winning, kind of guy! News reports say he has never lost a single game of organized football in his entire life, yeah the picture getting clear now. Worse watching todays game, I'm having this sinking feeling like I know this guy will bring them back, just watching him and this sinking feeling comes over you, this guy has this atitude\aurora whatever you call that, like no other, even Mansiel lost a game or two, how can you never lose a game before? This fricken guy is unreal in all kine ways, never seen this ever, quite honestly even with the game suspension, he is the best player\most valuable call it whatever you want, Mariota's having a season but the punk (that what I'll call him from now on), is taking this average team and looking for his second national title in a row and he's only a dam sophmore, if you look at what he's done, what he's doing...he should be in jail (sorry), I mean he should looking at heisman number two, I guess they turned off by him as well! Funny I think its almost comical though that he's not even being considered for the Heisman, don't blame them but at some point the'll end up looking real bad if they don't!
UH shuts out SJS 13-0. Great job guys.So what if UH finally "won" a game against SJS? Who is SJS, sounds like some high school football team?
After watching last nights game between Kahuku and Punahou, I think either high school team would have given UH a run for their money or even beat them. Still, I am not impressed by ONE win over a record breaking national college football on-the-road losing streak of 17 loses.
Its like saying I hit the jackpot at Las Vegas, but actually only won $10 from a slot machine one day, while losing $1000 every day for the last 17 days for a total lost of $17,000! Yeah, no matter how much you "massage" the numbers, UH and coach Chow are a bunch of losers!
The time to fire his ass was the day he got hired and walked out of that limo onto the field for all that bullshit fan fare so that idiot AD could make himself look good and to justify his over compensated benefit package. Fire Chow and the AD, no buy out contract, let them both "go suck rocks"!
Lowlys One
11-17-14, 06:57
So what if UH finally "won" a game against SJS? Who is SJS, sounds like some high school football team?
After watching last nights game between Kahuku and Punahou, I think either high school team would have given UH a run for their money or even beat them. Still, I am not impressed by ONE win over a record breaking national college football on-the-road losing streak of 17 loses.
Its like saying I hit the jackpot at Las Vegas, but actually only won $10 from a slot machine one day, while losing $1000 every day for the last 17 days for a total lost of $17,000! Yeah, no matter how much you "massage" the numbers, UH and coach Chow are a bunch of losers!
The time to fire his ass was the day he got hired and walked out of that limo onto the field for all that bullshit fan fare so that idiot AD could make himself look good and to justify his over compensated benefit package. Fire Chow and the AD, no buy out contract, let them both "go suck rocks"!Idk but I'm predicting, Mililani to beat Punahou, in the finals! Kahuku looked to be more physical than Punahou which was surprising and troublesome for Kale Ane cause Mililani is just as physical as Kahuku but with some big play makers on both sides of the ball. You. H. Going score next year cause that guy Salanoa Wily has commited already, he was as dominant a player as I've ever seen, Chris Paogofie kind dominance!
I. You. H. Going score next year cause that guy Salanoa Wily has commited already, he was as dominant a player as I've ever seen, Chris Paogofie kind dominance!I bet he must have gotten scholarship offers from other more successful college football programs, why he chose a losing UH team and a loser coach Chow is beyond logic.
Even if UH goes to another BCS bowl, its reputation is already established from a long history of failures. Chris Paogoie and other promising players should look to their futures and the truth is UH has NO FUTURE, period! Why get your face plastered with negative smears from a failed program and equally failed head coach like Chow and before him McMakin, and of course the infamous VonAppen.
All that negative baggage being heaped on a pile of shit football cesspool. Unfortunately its the players who are getting the shaft while loser coaches and AD get to walk away with paychecks they can only dream about. The players are just being used like toilet paper so that the incompetent UH administration can profit off of them, you don't see any of them facing the consequences of screwing up, its all "job security" with a fat pension paycheck.
Lowlys One
11-17-14, 22:38
I bet he must have gotten scholarship offers from other more successful college football programs, why he chose a losing UH team and a loser coach Chow is beyond logic.
Even if UH goes to another BCS bowl, its reputation is already established from a long history of failures. Chris Paogoie and other promising players should look to their futures and the truth is UH has NO FUTURE, period! Why get your face plastered with negative smears from a failed program and equally failed head coach like Chow and before him McMakin, and of course the infamous VonAppen.
All that negative baggage being heaped on a pile of shit football cesspool. Unfortunately its the players who are getting the shaft while loser coaches and AD get to walk away with paychecks they can only dream about. The players are just being used like toilet paper so that the incompetent UH administration can profit off of them, you don't see any of them facing the consequences of screwing up, its all "job security" with a fat pension paycheck.He got offers from be. Why. You. , Colorado and Oregon State, but committed to Hawaii. There seems to be this belief that to make it to the and. F. L. , you have to go to the mainland schools where there is more exposure, which is true, but if you don't have the skills to play, it doesn't matter where you go to school, you aint playing. Also vice versa, if you have the skills to play, you can play at a Div. 1 AA or even a Div. 2 school and they will find you, the and. F. L. , has scouts all over the country, same with the universities, they have their coaches and scouts who have their key contacts in all areas of the country including internationally, so where you go to college isn't as important as your level of play, that's what gets a recuit exposure and attention! Another belief is that going away for school people tend to grow up faster, which may be true. But wouldn't staying home for school and playing in front of your family and friends, sleeping in your warm comfortable bed, and forging friendship, contacts close to home where it matters cause that's where you reside, and at the same time creating some traditions between families and the universities. Like the Noga's, Yap's, Santiago's, Goeas's, Kafentzis's, they not local, but they still managed to create a tradition within the Kafentzis's family that a few generations have traveled to the isles to play football and get an education. Now if we could somehow dispell all this be. S. About the advantages to going to the mainland for sports or to grow up faster, cause really the advantages are really staying home and playing\getting an education at your state run universities to support your state, and create association, friendship and contacts where it is needed the most near home! If we can keep just two of the states best recruits at home every year, along with what we normally recruit, we would be ranked annually maybe not the Alabama's or Ohio St. 's of college football but defineatly challenging for our confrence title year in and year out.
Did anyone check out next years schedule on the road to Ohio st and Wisconsin so I guess it doesn't matter if they keep Chow 1 more year cause that will be 0-2. Also if I'm not mistaken UH should get a big pay day for those 2 game's.
Lowlys One
11-18-14, 04:00
Did anyone check out next years schedule on the road to Ohio st and Wisconsin so I guess it doesn't matter if they keep Chow 1 more year cause that will be 0-2. Also if I'm not mistaken UH should get a big pay day for those 2 game's.A reported 1. 2 million for the Ohio St. Game, thinking somewhere close to that for the Wisconsin game. Did you know Hawaii is only a game out of a tie for 1st place in the west division of thr mwc. I know highly unlikely that they will beat Fresno St. At Fresno, but beating you. And. L. V. At home is expected. Nevada has Fresno St. At home this week so one of them will lose a game. Then San Diego St. Has Air force and SJSU at home, they may lose one game here. Hawaii needs to win out and hope for a loss here and there, we still in it!
A reported 1. 2 million for the Ohio St. Game, thinking somewhere close to that for the Wisconsin game.It's a combined total of $2,300,000 for the Ohio State and Wisconsin games, so it's $1,100,000 for the Wisconsin game. Ben Jay frankly admits that they are "money games". Considering the away game at Boise State, Hawaii will have at least three almost certain losses on the 2015 schedule, so even if there's a new coach that will make bowl eligibility difficult.
Lowlys One
11-18-14, 21:10
It's a combined total of $2,300,000 for the Ohio State and Wisconsin games, so it's $1,100,000 for the Wisconsin game. Ben Jay frankly admits that they are "money games". Considering the away game at Boise State, Hawaii will have at least three almost certain losses on the 2015 schedule, so even if there's a new coach that will make bowl eligibility difficult.Ok I may be able to concede the Ohio State and Wisconsin games, call me an optimist but I feel like next year we are going to exact some as whooping on all of our conference games, including Boise St. ! BTW, idk if you guys check out mwc recruiting, but San Jose State, just my guess but prolly had the best recruiting class ever with 10 -3 star and 2-2 star recruits, which puts them 47 best class in the nation! Comparatively Hawaii has one 3 star recruit, nothing else.
It's still early but looks like UH has found there basketball coach. So far Benji Taylor has been great and as said before this UH Basketball team has the guards that can shoot the ball. Too bad Fotu left.
It's still early but looks like UH has found there basketball coach. So far Benji Taylor has been great and as said before this UH Basketball team has the guards that can shoot the ball. Too bad Fotu left.Great what Benji Taylor is doing with this team. They playing hard and smart right now. If Fotu had stayed through they may not have had the same success as everything would be funneling through the low post. As it is now everyone else is stepping their games up!!
What a crazy sports weekend.
From the HHSAA championship to UH beating Pitt and finally the come back against UNLV. BTW chow still needs to go.
What a crazy sports weekend.
From the HHSAA championship to UH beating Pitt and finally the come back against UNLV. BTW chow still needs to go.I agree.
I'm glad that UH won. The players and especially the seniors needed it.
But Chow must go after the last game next week.
First off, Hawaii will NEVER be included in any national championship game conversation, today or tomorrow. All this living in the past is hilarious (Sugar Bowl), case in point Marshall. Your undefeated team against one of the weakest college football schedules hurt any chance for mid major conferences making a jump. Ever notice how every one who mentions a mid major team breaking into the BCS is TCU, Utah, Boise State? Hawaii is as irrelevant as every other FCS school. Once you come to grips with the reality of the situation, things will get better.
Coach Chow has definitely not lived up to the hype of the Hawaii fans, but what have they done to support him? The stands are empty and no one goes. Stop being fair weather fans and go to the game and support the players, win or lose. If hawaii had a packed stadium, who could say that they cheering wouldn't bolster the team's confidence when things got tough? You want a football program in Hawaii, we'll prove that you deserve one.
The team plays very hard and I applaud their effort, but there is a talent separation. It's true about every mid major, not just hawaii. Most first team players have extreme talent and can go up against most teams in the country. The issue is with injuries. Unlike Alabama, USC, Ohio State, when their first string is injured it's, "next man up". There is a huge drop off in talent and strength for mid majors and that is and always will be an issue. You need money, prestige, and a major conference to do it. What is the PAC 12 yearly take 20+ million and they can still go 0-11. Also they voted and agreed to offer 4 year scholarships and medical coverage after they graduate. There were a few more, but it's also not a matter of time before they start offering additional living expenses.
Who really needs to go are the people who signed the contract for Aloha Stadium. The university doesn't make any money on concessions or parking. What! Why would anyone agree to this? Or whoever signed the deal with the Mountain West, paying for chartered flights for the other teams to come, and not sharing in the TV revenue?
Look I'm glad people jump on the forums and talk about their team, but the reality is that in the new conference alignment and the current contracts, Hawaii has no future, with or without Coach Chow. The better option is to put the money into Research and Education. Look at how the University of Hawaii has fallen behind. Give them a chance at being successful and not keep throwing money at a team that will never be more than a mediocre mid major.
Lowlys One
11-26-14, 09:27
I know they haven't played anyone and should be winning more impressively for a number 3 team, but the punk is only the number 8 player on the Heisman watch? Like I've said F. S. you. Looks like an average team in an average conference, really not impressed, except for the "Punk", add him to that average team and you win 27 straight games over the last two years, maybe he can't match the numbers of Mariota or even the Ohio St. Guy, but everytime I watch him, he's bringing his team back from first half deficits, so matter of factly, Something about him that oozes confidence, no doubt about it, like no other that I can remember, I don't like his behavior off the field, he really needs to grow up, maybe lose once or something but on the field, my vote goes to the "punk" for the Heisman, hope I'm wrong and Mariota wins, but imo he is the most valuable player to his team and the country's best player, should be the first pick in the draft, although experts are saying Mariota, not sure how much of that is because of his off field behaviors, but on field he is lights out!
Lowlys One
11-26-14, 10:53
First off, Hawaii will NEVER be included in any national championship game conversation, today or tomorrow. All this living in the past is hilarious (Sugar Bowl), case in point Marshall. Your undefeated team against one of the weakest college football schedules hurt any chance for mid major conferences making a jump. Ever notice how every one who mentions a mid major team breaking into the BCS is TCU, Utah, Boise State? Hawaii is as irrelevant as every other FCS school. Once you come to grips with the reality of the situation, things will get better.
Coach Chow has definitely not lived up to the hype of the Hawaii fans, but what have they done to support him? The stands are empty and no one goes. Stop being fair weather fans and go to the game and support the players, win or lose. If hawaii had a packed stadium, who could say that they cheering wouldn't bolster the team's confidence when things got tough? You want a football program in Hawaii, we'll prove that you deserve one.
The team plays very hard and I applaud their effort, but there is a talent separation. It's true about every mid major, not just hawaii. Most first team players have extreme talent and can go up against most teams in the country. The issue is with injuries. Unlike Alabama, USC, Ohio State, when their first string is injured it's, "next man up". There is a huge drop off in talent and strength for mid majors and that is and always will be an issue. You need money, prestige, and a major conference to do it. What is the PAC 12 yearly take 20+ million and they can still go 0-11. Also they voted and agreed to offer 4 year scholarships and medical coverage after they graduate. There were a few more, but it's also not a matter of time before they start offering additional living expenses.
Who really needs to go are the people who signed the contract for Aloha Stadium. The university doesn't make any money on concessions or parking. What! Why would anyone agree to this? Or whoever signed the deal with the Mountain West, paying for chartered flights for the other teams to come, and not sharing in the TV revenue?
Look I'm glad people jump on the forums and talk about their team, but the reality is that in the new conference alignment and the current contracts, Hawaii has no future, with or without Coach Chow. The better option is to put the money into Research and Education. Look at how the University of Hawaii has fallen behind. Give them a chance at being successful and not keep throwing money at a team that will never be more than a mediocre mid major.National championships, I've conceeded, teams like Alabama, Florida St. , Auburn, Georgia have rosters that are littered with 4 and 5 star recruits which we could never match on a physical level, their second team even third teams have 3 star recruits, about the level of our best recruits (which needs upgrading our local recruitment) but a top twenty-top twenty five program and perrineal conference contenders, oh and of course revenue generating sport / program can be had here. I think long run, Aloha Stadium needs to closed and build an on campus stadium in Manoa, keep up our "Stay home, mo'bettah" campaign, which from time to time you'll see on the television, to get our families to believe in the advantages of staying home to get an education (resident tuition, having family support, creating contacts here at home, where it will be valuable, ect.) and of course send their football sons to Manoa, and starting some traditions like the Maafalas, Amosa's, Noga's, Santiago's, Laboy's, Goeas's, Yap's and so on. We have the talent right here in the isles, per Capita, we rank number six in the nation for sending high schoolers to Div. 1 schools! Oh BTW if we beat Fresno State and San Diego St. Loses to San Jose State (7\5, it won't happen), we will tie for a share of the M. W. see. West division!
Hornysamowen
11-26-14, 17:30
I know they haven't played anyone and should be winning more impressively for a number 3 team, but the punk is only the number 8 player on the Heisman watch? Like I've said F. S. you. Looks like an average team in an average conference, really not impressed, except for the "Punk", add him to that average team and you win 27 straight games over the last two years, maybe he can't match the numbers of Mariota or even the Ohio St. Guy, but everytime I watch him, he's bringing his team back from first half deficits, so matter of factly, Something about him that oozes confidence, no doubt about it, like no other that I can remember, I don't like his behavior off the field, he really needs to grow up, maybe lose once or something but on the field, my vote goes to the "punk" for the Heisman, hope I'm wrong and Mariota wins, but imo he is the most valuable player to his team and the country's best player, should be the first pick in the draft, although experts are saying Mariota, not sure how much of that is because of his off field behaviors, but on field he is lights out!I think J. W. Is going to be another Jamarcus Russell or Vince Young when he gets to the NFL. All the talent in the world but with all that excess baggage, another first round bust for the team that drafts him.
Lowlys One
11-27-14, 15:40
I think J. W. Is going to be another Jamarcus Russell or Vince Young when he gets to the NFL. All the talent in the world but with all that excess baggage, another first round bust for the team that drafts him.Jamarcus was a bust, maybe the biggest bust ever. Vince could play and win despite his stat line, he had that "thing" similar to what I see in "punk", but to a lesser degree, " punk", displayed this as a freshman (redshirt) and now as a sophmore, with far less than what Vince had at Texas as a junior. Seemed like Vince quit football unlike Jamarcus, idk maybe that's why coach Fisher never seemed sold on Vince despite his winning ways. But "punk" seems like every game he's willing them to a second half comeback, with everything on the line, national championship, heisman award, almost like "ho, hum", been almost two years now, never lost a game as starting QB. Idk, though as they say "play with fire, you bound to get burned", they still got a couple more tough, tough games, but I won't doubt him again, not until he goes pro, then we will see.
Lowlys One
12-04-14, 16:13
I think J. W. Is going to be another Jamarcus Russell or Vince Young when he gets to the NFL. All the talent in the world but with all that excess baggage, another first round bust for the team that drafts him.Speaking of bust, I've been having a feeling Jadeveon Clowney is going to be your next big bust, even bigger than are. G. III, not quite as big as Jamarcus though! He's going to be an often injured and slow to return player, should have taken Manziel!
Speaking of bust, I've been having a feeling Jadeveon Clowney is going to be your next big bust,He could be the next Mike Mamula or The Boz.
Lowlys One
12-05-14, 10:37
He could be the next Mike Mamula or The Boz.We'll see how his recovery goes but given his "lazy" streaks, doesn't bold well for an easy transition into the nfl, much less now given his injury, which isn't his first, maybe he should give Mamula a call, now there's a great workout buddy to have!
Lowlys One
12-05-14, 10:54
Idk if it's just the playoffs that's given this college football season more excitement, but it seems this season has been one of the most exciting seasons in a long time, especially this last month of football, now with he weekend upon us, and three very loseable games by the the top six team in the country, Alabama should be okay with Missouri. Don't be surprised if this last week bring a big shake up in the top four teams, Ohio state underdogs against Wisconsin, Florida state facing a team with the right "stuff" to beat even a Jameis, they run the ball and play defense, bad news, bad, bad matchup here for Jameis, if they are to win look for Jameis to have his best play of the year here, if not they go tumbling. Baylor and K. State, look for a nail biter here as well! Then Oregon playing a team that has already beaten them in the regular season!
Well even tho it looks like Alabama, Oregon, TCU, Florida st going be the final 4 my final 4 would be Alabama, Oregon, Ohio st. ,Florida st.
Well even tho it looks like Alabama, Oregon, TCU, Florida st going be the final 4 my final 4 would be Alabama, Oregon, Ohio st. ,Florida st.I'm with you DV. Ohio St really merits some consideration as they played eleven games with their second string freshman quarterback and the Big 10 championship with their sophomore third string. JT Barrett was considered a Heisman finalist until he got hurt last week. Urban Meyer really deserves a lot of credit for the job he's done. It'll be interesting as Ohio St, TCU and Baylor all have legitimate cases. But what may end up hurting TCU and Baylor is the Big 12 does not have a championship game unlike the other conferences.
Honolulu808
12-07-14, 07:17
I'm with you DV. Ohio St really merits some consideration as they played eleven games with their second string freshman quarterback and the Big 10 championship with their sophomore third string. JT Barrett was considered a Heisman finalist until he got hurt last week. Urban Meyer really deserves a lot of credit for the job he's done. It'll be interesting as Ohio St, TCU and Baylor all have legitimate cases. But what may end up hurting TCU and Baylor is the Big 12 does not have a championship game unlike the other conferences.Something to be said about Urban Meyer and Nick Saban. They soon will become the best college football coaches of all time. What Meyer did at Florida and Ohio St. Pretty much speaks for itself and it doesn't matter with a 3rd string QB. Saban and Alabama has been at the top since his arrival. Oregon with second year coach Mark Helfrich, is it the system with the extreme help from Nike, their headquarters is in Eugene and pumps a lot of money to the school. Okay, Chip Kelly brought on Mariota, don't forget the St Louis kid.
Oregon, Ohio St. And Alabama are pipeline to the NFL.
I think the 3 other teams looking making the top 4 is really up in the air as it could go to any of those teams.
But the bottom line is this playoff system is in its first year and it seems to work, at least this year.
I'm with you DV. Ohio St really merits some consideration as they played eleven games with their second string freshman quarterback and the Big 10 championship with their sophomore third string. JT Barrett was considered a Heisman finalist until he got hurt last week. Urban Meyer really deserves a lot of credit for the job he's done. It'll be interesting as Ohio St, TCU and Baylor all have legitimate cases. But what may end up hurting TCU and Baylor is the Big 12 does not have a championship game unlike the other conferences.Yah just when everyone thought the, BCS was bad look now. Say they take TCU since they ranked them 3rd last week how can they drop them since they won big 55-3 but leave Baylor out when Baylor beat TCU head to head? This is messed up but should lead to a 6 teams or more Play off down the road.
Lowlys One
12-07-14, 09:40
Yah just when everyone thought the, BCS was bad look now. Say they take TCU since they ranked them 3rd last week how can they drop them since they won big 55-3 but leave Baylor out when Baylor beat TCU head to head? This is messed up but should lead to a 6 teams or more Play off down the road.My opinion, they cannot keep Ohio state out, whether they can come up with a reasoning or not, Ohio state is not only in, but are prolly the favorites to win it all! You know some years having a conference championship game can hurt the conference and sometimes it can help, for the big 12 it ended up hurting them. If you look at the Big 12, theres only ten teams and one division so really it doesn't make sense to have a championship game, unless they expand to twelve teams and two divisions, which they might have to do.
Lowlys One
12-07-14, 13:40
Something to be said about Urban Meyer and Nick Saban. They soon will become the best college football coaches of all time. What Meyer did at Florida and Ohio St. Pretty much speaks for itself and it doesn't matter with a 3rd string QB. Saban and Alabama has been at the top since his arrival. Oregon with second year coach Mark Helfrich, is it the system with the extreme help from Nike, their headquarters is in Eugene and pumps a lot of money to the school. Okay, Chip Kelly brought on Mariota, don't forget the St Louis kid.
Oregon, Ohio St. And Alabama are pipeline to the NFL.
I think the 3 other teams looking making the top 4 is really up in the air as it could go to any of those teams.
But the bottom line is this playoff system is in its first year and it seems to work, at least this year.Yeah I like this system as well, every game matters, any way you slice it, in any system, someone's going to feel left out. This playoffs generate interest and excitement. In the old bcs bowl system, imo, would have been Alabama-Florida state, funny thing is the two best teams may not even be those two. Urban almost won a national championship at Utah as well, before he left for Florida.
Lowlys One
12-07-14, 15:07
Early betting lines have Alabama as 9. 5 point favorites and Oregon as 8. 5 points favorites. I think I'm taking the points and both dogs, Ohio state underrated, Oregon slightly overrated and Florida state slightly underrated. I think they got it right, I like this system, it rocks!
Today's Star Advertiser has some interesting news; Ben Jay is stepping down, and Norm Chow is staying for a fourth season.
Lowlys One
12-09-14, 09:25
I think Mariota is a lock for the Heisman but imo, Amari Cooper is the best pro prospect and eventually the best pro of the Heisman candidates, I hope I'm wrong here but again I'm going to have to go with the "punk" next. His numbers just doesn't do him justice, this coming from a guy that who don't particularly care for him, well maybe the things he does off the field. But on the field, this guy money, the real question about him is, will his off field antics turn off nfl teams, I say absolutely it will, but in the end not enough to drop him below Mariota who I put after Gordon as the best pro player. Not that i dont think Mariota (actually he is a system qb, im sorry) cant play in the nfl but it's just Amari,Jameis and Melvin project in great players in the nfl!
Lowlys One
12-09-14, 09:50
Today's Star Advertiser has some interesting news; Ben Jay is stepping down, and Norm Chow is staying for a fourth season.Dam don't get newspaper I didn't see it. Any reason given?
Member #4646
12-10-14, 07:35
Early betting lines have Alabama as 9. 5 point favorites and Oregon as 8. 5 points favorites. I think I'm taking the points and both dogs, Ohio state underrated, Oregon slightly overrated and Florida state slightly underrated. I think they got it right, I like this system, it rocks!For example, Hapa Jasmine takes Oregon, I get Florida State and 8. 5 points. If Florida State wins outright or loses by 8 or fewer points, I get an hour session for free. Not sure how it would go if she won. She gets her normal fee or double her normal fee? Any thoughts?
BeerAddict
12-10-14, 13:08
I just have 7 simple words for the recent UH struggles: "Screw Ben Jay and Fire Norm Chow".
That's all for now. LOL.
Lowlys One
12-10-14, 13:45
I just have 7 simple words for the recent UH struggles: "Screw Ben Jay and Fire Norm Chow".
That's all for now. LOL.As I sit here watching the news, I think its bigger than an A. The. Just resigning or just getting rid of a head coach. My feeling is this is the death of our football program, just my feeling but its real real bad, I hope I'm wrong but.
Lowlys One
12-10-14, 13:53
For example, Hapa Jasmine takes Oregon, I get Florida State and 8. 5 points. If Florida State wins outright or loses by 8 or fewer points, I get an hour session for free. Not sure how it would go if she won. She gets her normal fee or double her normal fee? Any thoughts?What do you mean, you're not sure? Of course she gets a double rate or something of equal value. Oh BTW good bet, I like Florida state outright as well! Florida state is the only team out of the four that can match Alabama in terms of recruitment at the high school level, and if you don't think that means much go check out who leads recruitment year in and year out, then look at who hws the strongest program year in and year out!
Member #4646
12-11-14, 08:41
What do you mean, you're not sure? Of course she gets a double rate or something of equal value. Oh BTW good bet, I like Florida state outright as well! Florida state is the only team out of the four that can match Alabama in terms of recruitment at the high school level, and if you don't think that means much go check out who leads recruitment year in and year out, then look at who hws the strongest program year in and year out!After thinking about it for a while, maybe you go to a girl that is not a super star provider, since they are probably booked up anyway. So I would approach a second or third tier provider and propose a bet. If she wins, I will book a session with her at her rate. If I win, the session is free. Side bets for CIMWS, BBFSCIP, etc, I am sure you can work that out.
I think blue chip recruits like to go to schools like Alabama because the coaching they get will develop them into first round draft picks, kind of like how Kentucky in basketball. Teams that win or consistently contend for national championships also get their share because kids like to win, so it could be a bit cyclical. Then you have warm weather schools versus cold weather schools, which is somewhat related to good-looking girls (toned bodies, bikinis, tans) versus not so good-looking girls (big-boned, heavy jackets, pasty white). If I were a top recruit, I would go to Oregon for all the cool Nike swag.
Florida State over Oregon, Alabama over Ohio State, Alabama over Ohio State in the championship game.
Lowlys One
12-11-14, 20:45
After thinking about it for a while, maybe you go to a girl that is not a super star provider, since they are probably booked up anyway. So I would approach a second or third tier provider and propose a bet. If she wins, I will book a session with her at her rate. If I win, the session is free. Side bets for CIMWS, BBFSCIP, etc, I am sure you can work that out.
I think blue chip recruits like to go to schools like Alabama because the coaching they get will develop them into first round draft picks, kind of like how Kentucky in basketball. Teams that win or consistently contend for national championships also get their share because kids like to win, so it could be a bit cyclical. Then you have warm weather schools versus cold weather schools, which is somewhat related to good-looking girls (toned bodies, bikinis, tans) versus not so good-looking girls (big-boned, heavy jackets, pasty white). If I were a top recruit, I would go to Oregon for all the cool Nike swag.
Florida State over Oregon, Alabama over Ohio State, Alabama over Ohio State in the championship game.I don't understand why a top tier or a third tier (BTW, what is a top tier girl required to have, to be top tier) provider would make a difference, please explain, not sure I'm understanding your question?
Member #4646
12-12-14, 10:55
I don't understand why a top tier or a third tier (BTW, what is a top tier girl required to have, to be top tier) provider would make a difference, please explain, not sure I'm understanding your question?When I say top tier, I am referring to any of the girls that are really popular and are hard to see because they are always booked solid. They would have no incentive to bet an hour of their time. On the other hand, a girl that only has 1 or 2 customers a day might be willing to wager an hour of her time for the chance to gain an appointment should the guy lose.
BeerAddict
12-12-14, 13:35
What a difference for Hawaii people at this years Heisman Trophy presentation. Two years ago, everyone was hopeful that Manti was going to be able to win it as a defensive player and a few years before that we held our breaths and crossed our fingers for Colt. This year, Mariota is money in the bank. I would bet everything that I have that there is no way he will lose tomorrow. What a great kid and role model for younger kids out there, great character and team player.
Lowlys One
12-12-14, 17:52
When I say top tier, I am referring to any of the girls that are really popular and are hard to see because they are always booked solid. They would have no incentive to bet an hour of their time. On the other hand, a girl that only has 1 or 2 customers a day might be willing to wager an hour of her time for the chance to gain an appointment should the guy lose.Be it "top tier" or "bottom tier" none of them are dumb, unless you know them and they trust you, and I know this isn't the case cause you're asking if anyone knows of a provider who is willing to wager. What I'm saying is how can a provider make a bet with someone whom they don't know and if he lost the bet, how could she insure you pay up on the bet, she can't!
Lowlys One
12-12-14, 17:56
What a difference for Hawaii people at this years Heisman Trophy presentation. Two years ago, everyone was hopeful that Manti was going to be able to win it as a defensive player and a few years before that we held our breaths and crossed our fingers for Colt. This year, Mariota is money in the bank. I would bet everything that I have that there is no way he will lose tomorrow. What a great kid and role model for younger kids out there, great character and team player.Yeah great kid, love his character, great for the state, I'dbet on him winning the heisman as well!
What I'm saying is how can a provider make a bet with someone whom they don't know and if he lost the bet, how could she insure you pay up on the bet, she can't!Additionally, if a provider lost the bet, the provider may not "pay up" on the bet with the promised "free" sex. When I was a younger, naive and much less experienced monger, several times I made arrangements for "free" sex from providers, either by winning a bet in some contest (such as a game of billiards) or by doing something useful in advance for the provider. Each time, the providers didn't pay off with the promised "free" sex, either claiming that they had only been joking or didn't really understand the arrangement, or suddenly becoming unavailable for an appointment, LOL. That taught me a valuable lesson.
GraveDiggah
12-12-14, 19:08
What a difference for Hawaii people at this years Heisman Trophy presentation. Two years ago, everyone was hopeful that Manti was going to be able to win it as a defensive player and a few years before that we held our breaths and crossed our fingers for Colt. This year, Mariota is money in the bank. I would bet everything that I have that there is no way he will lose tomorrow. What a great kid and role model for younger kids out there, great character and team player.Yes, I agree with you wholeheartedly. He is someone all young kids should follow and look up to. Wish him all the best in the NFL.
Member #4646
12-13-14, 08:12
Be it "top tier" or "bottom tier" none of them are dumb, unless you know them and they trust you, and I know this isn't the case cause you're asking if anyone knows of a provider who is willing to wager. What I'm saying is how can a provider make a bet with someone whom they don't know and if he lost the bet, how could she insure you pay up on the bet, she can't!The wager would have to be between 2 people that know and trust each other. So it would probably work best with someone you go to regularly and are somewhat friendly with. You obviously could not just call up a provider you do not know and propose this kind of wager. The original question was meant to be a little fun and light-hearted.
Hornysamowen
12-14-14, 09:35
What a difference for Hawaii people at this years Heisman Trophy presentation. Two years ago, everyone was hopeful that Manti was going to be able to win it as a defensive player and a few years before that we held our breaths and crossed our fingers for Colt. This year, Mariota is money in the bank. I would bet everything that I have that there is no way he will lose tomorrow. What a great kid and role model for younger kids out there, great character and team player.Was not able to watch the presentation but its great for Hawaii that a local boy won the Heisman, kind of washes away all the other stuff that happened the previous years.
Was not able to watch the presentation but its great for Hawaii that a local boy won the Heisman, kind of washes away all the other stuff that happened the previous years.I don't mean to offend anyone here but it feels disrespectful to mention the heisman winner in this forum. He's such a good kid, and this forum is more for us to anonamisly voice our dark secret hobby. He represents Hawaii in the best way possible which is the exact opposite of what this forum provides an outlet for. It is more appropriate to post in other more appropriate places online, not a pay for play forum.
Admin, out of respect, would you consider deleting posts with the heisman winners name?
No, if they were mentioning his name in conjunction with "I saw (whoever) at Mayflower the night he won" then yes. I'm sorry if you think we are too sleezy to even mention the name of a public figure of distinction (who's also local) even on a forum called "sports chat" but I have a different view.
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Hornysamowen
12-15-14, 01:57
I don't mean to offend anyone here but it feels disrespectful to mention the heisman winner in this forum. He's such a good kid, and this forum is more for us to anonamisly voice our dark secret hobby. He represents Hawaii in the best way possible which is the exact opposite of what this forum provides an outlet for. It is more appropriate to post in other more appropriate places online, not a pay for play forum.
Admin, out of respect, would you consider deleting posts with the heisman winners name?
No, if they were mentioning his name in conjunction with "I saw (whoever) at Mayflower the night he won" then yes. I'm sorry if you think we are too sleezy to even mention the name of a public figure of distinction (who's also local) even on a forum called "sports chat" but I have a different view.
A2LOL, he is in the same fraternity as Famous Jamies Wiston, Reggie Bush, Cam Newton, O.Jay Samson and the other saints, kind of makes up for Manti Teao and Colt Brennan, huh. Again good job Marcus Mariota, look forward to seeing you in those Nissan Tittan commercials and the NFL.
Lowlys One
12-15-14, 04:11
LOL, he is in the same fraternity as Famous Jamies Wiston, Reggie Bush, Cam Newton, O.Jay Samson and the other saints, kind of makes up for Manti Teao and Colt Brennan, huh. Again good job Marcus Mariota, look forward to seeing you in those Nissan Tittan commercials and the NFL.LOL, haha but yes I agree he is a great kid, he has this really humbleness-innocence to his demeanor, he looks very coachable, sorry if I offended anyone, but he is the face of Hawaii currently.
Thought I share some winning picks and get you brothers some extra mongering $$ (v follow this week and see for your self good luck all who follow.
LSU -16 *8 UNITS.
DUKE -20 *5 UNITS.
OREGON -9 *5 UNITS.
Thought I share some winning picks and get you brothers some extra mongering $$ (v follow this week and see for your self good luck all who follow.
LSU -16 *8 UNITS.
DUKE -20 *5 UNITS.
OREGON -9 *5 UNITS.Thanks S56. Go Ducks!
What a great way to start off the New Year with four fantastic football games. Three nail biters and one blowout. Isn't it ironic how the "mighty" SEC West fared in the bowl games? They won only 2 (A&M and Arkansas) and loss 5 (Alabama, Miss St, Mississippi, Auburn and LSU) while the "weaker" East won all 3 (Missouri, Georgia and S Carolina) with 2 games pending. So much for the hype of the SEC being the best conference in all of college football. It looks like the playoff format played out correctly this year and the championship game on the 12th should be one hell of a game. I for one am looking forward to watching it. I'm rooting for the local kid but something tells me the buckeyes are a team of destiny.
Hornysamowen
01-02-15, 02:49
What a great way to start off the New Year with four fantastic football games. Three nail biters and one blowout. Isn't it ironic how the "mighty" SEC West fared in the bowl games? They won only 2 (A&M and Arkansas) and loss 5 (Alabama, Miss St, Mississippi, Auburn and LSU) while the "weaker" East won all 3 (Missouri, Georgia and S Carolina) with 2 games pending. So much for the hype of the SEC being the best conference in all of college football. It looks like the playoff format played out correctly this year and the championship game on the 12th should be one hell of a game. I for one am looking forward to watching it. I'm rooting for the local kid but something tells me the buckeyes are a team of destiny.I'm going all in with Oregon. They finally have a defense that can stop the other team and there offense is loaded. The Buckeye QB is a third stringer and it will show in the championship game. Mariota is Gawd, errr good.
I'm going all in with Oregon. They finally have a defense that can stop the other team and there offense is loaded. The Buckeye QB is a third stringer and it will show in the championship game. Mariota is Gawd, errr good.Becareful Urban Myers is a Big time coach and Buckeyes look more physical than Oregon and in big games the more physical team normally wins I'm taking the points +7 still deciding on the big ML.
Becareful Urban Myers is a Big time coach and Buckeyes look more physical than Oregon and in big games the more physical team normally wins I'm taking the points +7 still deciding on the big ML.I agree that's one factor Hornysam may have overlooked, the head coach. Urban Meyer has been there, won that. In fact twice in 2006 and 2008. Make no mistake, he will have Ohio St ready for the championship game. Although Jones does not match up statistically with Mariota, he has been efficient in his two starts against Wisconsin and Alabama completing 57% of his passes for 250+ yards and has moved the offense well. I think this game will come down to who has the ball last. IMO 7 points is a little too much.
Hornysamowen
01-03-15, 04:47
I agree urban myers is a great coach. Been a fan since Utah and Florida days. But Oregon got the better team this year. I think Oregon going to stack the line to stop Ohio from running the ball and force them to throw the ball to win. If Oregon turns the ball over a few times like FSU did, then I think Ohio will win the game.
I agree urban myers is a great coach. Been a fan since Utah and Florida days. But Oregon got the better team this year. I think Oregon going to stack the line to stop Ohio from running the ball and force them to throw the ball to win. If Oregon turns the ball over a few times like FSU did, then I think Ohio will win the game.Ducks the has to put pressure on OSU QB. Ducks all the way!
I hope all the bets aren't just being based off of emotions for the local boy. Reality is oregons offense is good, maybe a gimmick but good. However, mariota I think is just decent at best. People forget that oregons offensive system is terrific, you could put a lot of qbs and they would look the same. Ohio state on the other hand has a terrific defense and oregon's is also decent at best. Oregon hasn't faced a the like the Buckeyes yet all year long. There's a lot of amazement that Ohio st is winning with a third string when in reality he almost was there number one guy a few years ago until Braxton Miller shined in practice. But the real strength of Ohio st is defense. So in the end it's really a matchup of offense vs defense. I personally think Ohio st will win outright with their defense. But even if playing devils advocate I see this game going down to the last possession. Whether the line stays at -7 or -9 that's way too much for either team to give.
Hornysamowen
01-03-15, 22:02
The only way Oregon is going to lose the game is if Mariota gets injured and can't finish the game or Oregon turns the ball over serveral times, or they score less points then OSU. But I doubt it.
After watching the OR FSU game twice, it looks like the Ducks should be favored. They dominated FSU at the line, beat them down mentally, and out coached FSU (esp in the 2nd half). The Duck defense should do the same against OSU but would be more of a match with Urban Meyer. A lot of people don't like admitting that the ducks have a good defense this year and they improved quite a bit since mid-season. The duck offense is unstoppable with Mariota and like Horneysamoan said he would have to get hurt for them to lose. OSU will not have enough time to prepare for the uptempo. Oregon has been this fast since Chip and even their Pac12 brethren have trouble adjusting even though they play them every year and know what to expect. As good as Urban is, I don't think his kids will be ready (just like FSU). He and his staff will try because they know what's coming but those kids never faced an offense like Oregon's. The difference is that Mariota runs this offense better than anyone, ever. I am torn as who to root for since I always like the underdog but Marcus is a local boy with unreal athletic ability. This will be the game to watch and I already took the day off from work! I guess I'll go with OR since they never won a National Championship before and Marcus Mariota is from Hawaii and makes the people of our state proud.
The only way Oregon is going to lose the game is if Mariota gets injured and can't finish the game or Oregon turns the ball over serveral times, or they score less points then OSU. But I doubt it.I have followed Oregon for a few years now and made quite a few dollars on them. I would love nothing better than for the Ducks to win it all just so that us locals have a feel good story about Mariota coming from Hawaii.
However when Meyer got hired, he stated that he wanted to create an "SEC north" at Ohio St with faster, stronger and more physical athletes. Athletes being the operative word. I believe he has done so in the two years he's been there. How else can you explain their season this year? First Miller a pre-season Heisman candidate goes down with a season ending injury. Then his back up Barrett, has a Heisman like season only to go down with an injury as well. Now Jones the third string QB leads them to victory in their two biggest games of the year (so far). Lesser teams would not have made it this far.
It's going to be an entertaining game to watch. Both defenses are suspect to big plays and I'm sure we will see some from both offenses. I truly believe it will be a close game and will come down to who has the ball last. Straight up Oregon, against the spread Ohio St. How's that?
I have followed Oregon for a few years now and made quite a few dollars on them. I would love nothing better than for the Ducks to win it all just so that us locals have a feel good story about Mariota coming from Hawaii.
However when Meyer got hired, he stated that he wanted to create an "SEC north" at Ohio St with faster, stronger and more physical athletes. Athletes being the operative word. I believe he has done so in the two years he's been there. How else can you explain their season this year? First Miller a pre-season Heisman candidate goes down with a season ending injury. Then his back up Barrett, has a Heisman like season only to go down with an injury as well. Now Jones the third string QB leads them to victory in their two biggest games of the year (so far). Lesser teams would not have made it this far.
It's going to be an entertaining game to watch. Both defenses are suspect to big plays and I'm sure we will see some from both offenses. I truly believe it will be a close game and will come down to who has the ball last. Straight up Oregon, against the spread Ohio St. How's that?Thoughts on Lions or Cowboys? Good luck.
Thoughts on Lions or Cowboys? Good luck.This is an interesting game. This year America's team has struggled at home (go figure they won all their road games) while the Lions have struggled to score points in recent games. Got to go with the offense that can score. Go Boy's!
Lowlys One
01-04-15, 23:23
I have followed Oregon for a few years now and made quite a few dollars on them. I would love nothing better than for the Ducks to win it all just so that us locals have a feel good story about Mariota coming from Hawaii.
However when Meyer got hired, he stated that he wanted to create an "SEC north" at Ohio St with faster, stronger and more physical athletes. Athletes being the operative word. I believe he has done so in the two years he's been there. How else can you explain their season this year? First Miller a pre-season Heisman candidate goes down with a season ending injury. Then his back up Barrett, has a Heisman like season only to go down with an injury as well. Now Jones the third string QB leads them to victory in their two biggest games of the year (so far). Lesser teams would not have made it this far.
It's going to be an entertaining game to watch. Both defenses are suspect to big plays and I'm sure we will see some from both offenses. I truly believe it will be a close game and will come down to who has the ball last. Straight up Oregon, against the spread Ohio St. How's that?Imo, and I hope I'm wrong because you just got to love Mariota, everything you want in a college star a great face for NCAA football, but not only should Ohio State be favored but they should whip Oregon by double digits, just my opinion though. Ohio State is just solid all around, my guess 45-21 with Ohio State taking the foot off the gas pedal early to mid way through the fourth.
Lowlys One
01-05-15, 11:01
Today's Star Advertiser has some interesting news; Ben Jay is stepping down, and Norm Chow is staying for a fourth season.Idk, something about this and the basketball investigation and who knew what and how far up the chain of command were at least aware if not involved in the"improprieties", call me a conspiricy theorist, but I think it went beyond the coach even above the A. The. , no facts but seems odd.
Idk, something about this and the basketball investigation and who knew what and how far up the chain of command were at least aware if not involved in the"improprieties", call me a conspiricy theorist, but I think it went beyond the coach even above the A. The. , no facts but seems odd.It has been confirmed that Arnold's firing came from the interim chancellor. Recently it's been pretty obvious jay is just a pawn, nothing more. That's probably also why he is still on the job till the end of the school year despite UH saying he can be let go without pay at anytime. I can already see UH is trying to let time slip by and hope we forget what happened with the basketball program. Sad thing is for the vast majority it probably will work, especially if the program can continue winning this season.
The only way Oregon is going to lose the game is if Mariota gets injured and can't finish the game or Oregon turns the ball over serveral times, or they score less points then OSU. But I doubt it.LOL, that's how any team looses a game Picasso.
Lowlys One
01-05-15, 15:52
It has been confirmed that Arnold's firing came from the interim chancellor. Recently it's been pretty obvious jay is just a pawn, nothing more. That's probably also why he is still on the job till the end of the school year despite UH saying he can be let go without pay at anytime. I can already see UH is trying to let time slip by and hope we forget what happened with the basketball program. Sad thing is for the vast majority it probably will work, especially if the program can continue winning this season.If it is as reported he stepped down for family issues then so be it, wish him and his family the best. But here's a guy who has been reported to have gotten the university out of 13 million in debts in his three years as A. The. , really sems like the university wasn't in a rush to or made any fuss about him stepping down, even seems like you said they let him go? Is that how you treat a guy who got you 13 million out of the debt?
Honolulu808
01-05-15, 16:44
The only way Oregon is going to lose the game is if Mariota gets injured and can't finish the game or Oregon turns the ball over serveral times, or they score less points then OSU. But I doubt it.Great teams also have great backups that knows the system, I. E. Ohio St. Next QB will come into the game, the system changes to fit the players ability and the machine rolls on. This holds true for every position on offense, defense and special teams. If Mariota does in fact is lost in the game I don't think it will damper Oregons hope for the title Nor any power teams. Hell look at UH basketball team, loose Fotu but the system works for any player that comes into the game.
June Jones was correct to say that Tim Tebow was just another player in a great system when Hawaii played Florida a few years back.
Larry Hoover
01-05-15, 17:35
I have followed Oregon for a few years now and made quite a few dollars on them. I would love nothing better than for the Ducks to win it all just so that us locals have a feel good story about Mariota coming from Hawaii.
However when Meyer got hired, he stated that he wanted to create an "SEC north" at Ohio St with faster, stronger and more physical athletes. Athletes being the operative word. I believe he has done so in the two years he's been there. How else can you explain their season this year? First Miller a pre-season Heisman candidate goes down with a season ending injury. Then his back up Barrett, has a Heisman like season only to go down with an injury as well. Now Jones the third string QB leads them to victory in their two biggest games of the year (so far). Lesser teams would not have made it this far.
It's going to be an entertaining game to watch. Both defenses are suspect to big plays and I'm sure we will see some from both offenses. I truly believe it will be a close game and will come down to who has the ball last. Straight up Oregon, against the spread Ohio St. How's that?LOL, that's an oxymoron. Ohio is closer to Canada than the rest of the SEC. They should just be happy with that fluke win against Crimson Tide because it won't happen again next year.
Hornysamowen
01-05-15, 20:08
Great teams also have great backups that knows the system, I. E. Ohio St. Next QB will come into the game, the system changes to fit the players ability and the machine rolls on. This holds true for every position on offense, defense and special teams. If Mariota does in fact is lost in the game I don't think it will damper Oregons hope for the title Nor any power teams. Hell look at UH basketball team, loose Fotu but the system works for any player that comes into the game.
June Jones was correct to say that Tim Tebow was just another player in a great system when Hawaii played Florida a few years back.Mariota is a better passer and QB than Tebow, but Tebow had Jesus on his side. In Oregons case if Mariota gets put out of commision for the game, then Oregon is a dead duck in the water, they aint got a prayer against OSU. Was the Arizona Cardinals a great team with Carson Palmer?
Comp Dude 35
01-05-15, 20:35
If you did, you would know that Urban is bringing the SEC type speed to the BIG 12 and all the other teams will eventually all have to keep up with OSU. It was no fluke that OSU killed 'bama with their speed and power. Now this Alabama was NOT the same "championship" Alabama from a couple of years ago and if they get back to how things, maybe they can beat everyone again, but I think it was pretty obvious that the SEC brand of football is being played all over now and the SEC is NOT the "prime" conference that ESPN wants it to be.
CD35.
LOL, that's an oxymoron. Ohio is closer to Canada than the rest of the SEC. They should just be happy with that fluke win against Crimson Tide because it won't happen again next year.
Larry Hoover
01-05-15, 22:07
If you did, you would know that Urban is bringing the SEC type speed to the BIG 12 and all the other teams will eventually all have to keep up with OSU. It was no fluke that OSU killed 'bama with their speed and power. Now this Alabama was NOT the same "championship" Alabama from a couple of years ago and if they get back to how things, maybe they can beat everyone again, but I think it was pretty obvious that the SEC brand of football is being played all over now and the SEC is NOT the "prime" conference that ESPN wants it to be.
CD35.Yeah CD35, I watched the game bro. And toward the ending of the half, the score was looking just as it should've at 21-9, Bama on top. Ohio rallied back right before the half and carried that momentum all the way through the second half. Bama simply didn't show up in the second half with 28 points allowed by the defense and no answers from the offense. And Sims was totally off his game. I'm not even sure he threw for over 100 yards that game. Henry had a good ground game, but he could only do so much, and Yeldon wasn't 100% but still got close to 100 yards that night.
And while I agree that this wasn't the same Bama that killed Notre Dame, I got to go against you on the SEC not being the prime conference. If it wasn't, everyone (including OSU) wouldn't be trying to model their style of play from our conference. Ohio is a good team, but that game was an upset for a reason. You can bet Saban is going back to the drawing board this offseason and we'll be a nightmare when things ramp back up this fall.
LH.
Lowlys One
01-06-15, 13:09
Yeah CD35, I watched the game bro. And toward the ending of the half, the score was looking just as it should've at 21-9, Bama on top. Ohio rallied back right before the half and carried that momentum all the way through the second half. Bama simply didn't show up in the second half with 28 points allowed by the defense and no answers from the offense. And Sims was totally off his game. I'm not even sure he threw for over 100 yards that game. Henry had a good ground game, but he could only do so much, and Yeldon wasn't 100% but still got close to 100 yards that night.
And while I agree that this wasn't the same Bama that killed Notre Dame, I got to go against you on the SEC not being the prime conference. If it wasn't, everyone (including OSU) wouldn't be trying to model their style of play from our conference. Ohio is a good team, but that game was an upset for a reason. You can bet Saban is going back to the drawing board this offseason and we'll be a nightmare when things ramp back up this fall.
LH.Imo the big 5 conference's top teams (1-2), all play about the same level, but the SEC, has the most depth throughout the whole league out of the 14 teams in the SEC only two didn't end up in bowl games, I think that sets this league up to be the toughest to play in and come out on top over a season, every game is tough. With that being said I think theres one team that looks to have superiorty over all else this year and maybe years to come and that one is Ohio State! Remember this team went undeafeated in 2012, so it looks like Urban is doing what Urban does wherever he goes! I don't see how Oregon can be favored in this game, that's just ridiculus, Ohio State should be double digit favorites, I'm seeing at least a decisive win (more than one posession) or route of Oregon.
I got to go against you on the SEC not being the prime conference. If it wasn't, everyone (including OSU) wouldn't be trying to model their style of play from our conference.
Imo the big 5 conference's top teams (1-2), all play about the same level, but the SEC, has the most depth throughout the whole league out of the 14 teams in the SEC only two didn't end up in bowl games, I think that sets this league up to be the toughest to play in and come out on top over a season, every game is tough.Overall, I agree that the SEC is the strongest college football conference, and that opinion is statistically supported. RealTimeRPI ranks the college football conferences based on a combination of statistical factors including (but not limited to) strength of schedule and winning percentage for non-conference games. For the current season (including bowl games), here are the current rankings for the FBS conferences:
1. SEC.
2. Pac-12.
3. Big 12.
4. ACC.
5. Big Ten.
6. Mountain West.
7. AAC.
8. Conference USA.
9. MAC.
10. Sun Belt.
Indeed, the SEC has been ranked #1 by RealTimeRPI every season since the 2009-2010 season.
Lowlys One
01-06-15, 23:34
Mariota is a better passer and QB than Tebow, but Tebow had Jesus on his side. In Oregons case if Mariota gets put out of commision for the game, then Oregon is a dead duck in the water, they aint got a prayer against OSU. Was the Arizona Cardinals a great team with Carson Palmer?Well with coach Helfrich's history and mentors, I would think if any team or system could lose their best qb and not skip a beat it would be Oregon under Chip Kelly's hurry up offense, look at the string of qb's and rb's this program boasts every year, but I still agree if Mariota gets hurt, they have no chance, but it goes more to just how good this Ohio State team really is rather than a team or programs abilities to insert backups into the system and not skip a beat like Ohio State oddly enough is now doing. I think Ohio State is so good they could win with any of the qb's they have signed to play the qb position at Ohio State!
Lowlys One
01-06-15, 23:45
If we were still in the BCS bowl system, this year we prolly would have gotten a 1. Alabama versus 2. Florida State in a Sugar Bowl matchup to decide a national champion. Boy, how wrong would we have been, either of them will be playing for a national title, makes me wonder about all the other years, thank god these playoffs were a long time in coming, but it's finally here!
Everyone has their own opinions on the championship game. Everyone has has a valid point. In the end we will all see the outcome at the end of the game. I personally haven't decided who will win. Can OSU keep up with the uptempo offense of Oregon and braddah Marcus. Or can Oregon match up with OSU. Either way I predict a damnit good game.
Mariota is a better passer and QB than Tebow, but Tebow had Jesus on his side.Tebow has Jesus, but Marcus comes after Jesus and girls, and has Nike god Phil night on his side. Maybe Nike will rigg the game and have cleats too long to slow down OSU and then fall off in the 2nd half. Looks like that's what happened to FSU. Running backs nike grip gloves mysteriously didn't work in 2nd half. I'm just sayin.
Everyone talking about Oregons fast high scoring offense but look what Ohio St has done they scored 30 plus points every game this season including 49 against Michigan st 59 against Wisconsin and 42 against Bama and these 3 team defense is not crappy either so by saying that what makes Oregon fans think there def will stop the buckeyes? The other key player that will decide how the buckeyes will do is that running back Ezekiel Elliott if Ducks can't stop him they are done.
If it is as reported he stepped down for family issues then so be it, wish him and his family the best. But here's a guy who has been reported to have gotten the university out of 13 million in debts in his three years as A. The. , really sems like the university wasn't in a rush to or made any fuss about him stepping down, even seems like you said they let him go? Is that how you treat a guy who got you 13 million out of the debt?I really don't know what report you mean how he got the university minus 13 million in debt. The debt increases every year but has never even got that high yet. I personally think he was forced to step down but regardless on whether it was his choice or not, it makes no sense to keep him for the remainder of the year if he has no contract obligations. As part of their search for a new AD, they might as well give someone a try now as interim.
Overall, I agree that the SEC is the strongest college football conference, and that opinion is statistically supported. RealTimeRPI ranks the college football conferences based on a combination of statistical factors including (but not limited to) strength of schedule and winning percentage for non-conference games. For the current season (including bowl games), here are the current rankings for the FBS conferences:
1. SEC.
2. Pac-12.
3. Big 12.
4. ACC.
5. Big Ten.
6. Mountain West.
7. AAC.
8. Conference USA.
9. MAC.
10. Sun Belt.
Indeed, the SEC has been ranked #1 by RealTimeRPI every season since the 2009-2010 season.As lowly basically stated the SEC from top to bottom has the most quality teams. But overall I wonder how people judge a strong conference, amount of quality teams or quality of the quality of the teams. Every conference has at least one team that could potentially beat bama and a couple teams who could beat the rest of the SEC. It all just seems real subjective and sickening when they talk about how a 2 loss SEC team should still make the playoff. I remember back when Pete Carol was at USC they talked about how strong the pac 10 was. I always thought what they were smoking because only USC was really strong and cal and Oregon were mediocre. Sure enough years later Collin Cowherd reminisced about those years and talked down about the pad 10 then. Seems most of the public just listens to what espn says without even analyzing things themselves.
Everyone talking about Oregons fast high scoring offense but look what Ohio St has done they scored 30 plus points every game this season including 49 against Michigan st 59 against Wisconsin and 42 against Bama and these 3 team defense is not crappy either so by saying that what makes Oregon fans think there def will stop the buckeyes? The other key player that will decide how the buckeyes will do is that running back Ezekiel Elliott if Ducks can't stop him they are done.Agree, this is with a third string quarterback. Imagine if this was the starter. Also I believe OSU has the number 2 defense. Defense wins championship.
Lowlys One
01-09-15, 01:58
I really don't know what report you mean how he got the university minus 13 million in debt. The debt increases every year but has never even got that high yet. I personally think he was forced to step down but regardless on whether it was his choice or not, it makes no sense to keep him for the remainder of the year if he has no contract obligations. As part of their search for a new AD, they might as well give someone a try now as interim.Here are two reports; http://www.sportingnews.com/ncaa-football/story/2014-12-09/hawaii-athletic-director-ben-jay-steps-down and the other one: http://www.hawaiireporter.com/ben-jay-resigns-early-as-university-of-hawaiis-ad. I think he and the Chancellor made an agreement that he'd stay around long enough to find another Athletic director, and help with the transition over. We lost another 3 million this season, coupled with an ncaa ruling to upgrade per diem for scholarship athletes, I believe will add from a low of 15 dollars a day, up to 35 dollars a day, everyday for the school year for every scholar athlete, which for schools like ours who do not make money every season, is just the nails going into the coffin, the writing is on the wall, if we lose money again this 2015 season, it looks more and more certain we will lose our college football in Hawaii, (come on coach Chow, you got to win and win now!) never thought I'd see the day when no you. H. Game to tail gate at, we losing more than just football, losing one hell of a party too! I agree to about Ben Jay quietly stepping down, maybe had something to do with the improprieties with regards to basketball program, maybe he was the fall guy, cause the Chancellor and his staff was well aware of these illegalities. So to all mongers, if you want and care about the football program, its time we stand up and be counted at the gates at least!
Lowlys One
01-09-15, 11:09
Agree, this is with a third string quarterback. Imagine if this was the starter. Also I believe OSU has the number 2 defense. Defense wins championship.Ohio State has a great defense, they looked better than Alabama's, they were as fast as Alabama's offense. Front seven will pressure the qb and still stop the run. This is where I think the game will be won and lost. The advantage they will end up with at the point of first contact, will be to much for Oregon to over come. Pressure Mariota, cause the only place this defense may be vulnerable is inexperienced at the corners, so pressuring him will help the corners with coverage, and so on. 4 and 5 star recruits scattered on the defense, even offense for that matter. What Ohio State did at the quarterback position, can be done along the defensive front seven, that's how loaded this team is, oh and by the way they could also do that at other positions on offense as well like rb and wr positions, and just because some are listed as RS Freshman or Freshman and they starting, that usually means the freshman is incredibly gifted and good, more than inexperienced, and weak, which is what you could expect from a team like Hawaii, not the case with these guys!
Also I believe OSU has the number 2 defense. Defense wins championship.Personally, I like to look at the statistics. According to the NCAA's official stats for FBS teams during the current season, Oregon is ranked 84th in "total defense" (yards allowed per game), while Ohio State is ranked a much better 17th in total defense. Big advantage for Ohio State. Ohio State is also ranked significantly higher than Oregon in most (but not all) other defensive categories. However, in what might be the most important defensive category, scoring defense (points allowed per game), Ohio State is ranked 26th while Oregon is ranked close behind at 27th by the statistically insignificant margin of one-fifth of one point. Could Oregon's favorable ranking in scoring defense be explained by a weaker strength of schedule? Maybe not. According to the Sagarin ratings, Oregon had a somewhat tougher overall schedule (ranked 34th) than Ohio State (ranked 42nd). In any event, it should be an interesting game!
Honolulu808
01-09-15, 18:32
Sports team is very interesting to follow. Some people looks at stats, individual and team. Coaches main focus though is building the perfect program in where athletes with abilities are drawn into the system. With that said Ohio St. And Oregon are 2 teams that has an awesome system in place. Even if Mariota is not able to complete the game someone will come in, system changes a little to better fit the ability of that athletic and the game goes on.
With a good program even UH sports can do it and have with softball, men and women volleyball. Not the best of the best goes to those sports and the team is always competing for the top. Less is said with football but basketball may be heading to that direction.
Urban Meyer my have perfected the "system" at Utah, Florida and now Ohio St. Nick Saban at Alabama has it. Oregon has Nike to provide the perfect sports department.
Lowlys One
01-09-15, 19:12
Personally, I like to look at the statistics. According to the NCAA's official stats for FBS teams during the current season, Oregon is ranked 84th in "total defense" (yards allowed per game), while Ohio State is ranked a much better 17th in total defense. Big advantage for Ohio State. Ohio State is also ranked significantly higher than Oregon in most (but not all) other defensive categories. However, in what might be the most important defensive category, scoring defense (points allowed per game), Ohio State is ranked 26th while Oregon is ranked close behind at 27th by the statistically insignificant margin of one-fifth of one point. Could Oregon's favorable ranking in scoring defense be explained by a weaker strength of schedule? Maybe not. According to the Sagarin ratings, Oregon had a somewhat tougher overall schedule (ranked 34th) than Ohio State (ranked 42nd). In any event, it should be an interesting game!Yup I think so to scoring defense is the bottom line, most important statistic. Here's a statistic for you, for the time period of 2011-2014, this is the final four teams recruiting class ranking nationally. Ohio State, 7th /2011, 5th /2012, 2nd /2013, 3rd /2014. Oregon, 11th /2011,13th /2012,19th /2013, 21st /2014. Alabama, 1st /2011-2014. Florida State, 2nd /2011, 3rd /2012,10th /2013, 4th /2014. Looking at this statistic Ohio State shouldn't be a surprise nor an underdog. It's Oregon who should be the surprise and underdog. Also Nick Saban should be fired for underachievment, can anyone say "overrated", LOL! You like to think that other things affect your team more than recruiting like schemes, coaching, having continuaity (good program), training those things, but let me tell you, the most telling and important factor in winning a national title, or becoming national powers is recruiting, plain and simple. If you start with losers, you'll end up with slightly improved losers!
Hornysamowen
01-09-15, 20:52
Yup I think so to scoring defense is the bottom line, most important statistic. Here's a statistic for you, for the time period of 2011-2014, this is the final four teams recruiting class ranking nationally. Ohio State, 7th /2011, 5th /2012, 2nd /2013, 3rd /2014. Oregon, 11th /2011,13th /2012,19th /2013, 21st /2014. Alabama, 1st /2011-2014. Florida State, 2nd /2011, 3rd /2012,10th /2013, 4th /2014. Looking at this statistic Ohio State shouldn't be a surprise nor an underdog. It's Oregon who should be the surprise and underdog. Also Nick Saban should be fired for underachievment, can anyone say "overrated", LOL! You like to think that other things affect your team more than recruiting like schemes, coaching, having continuaity (good program), training those things, but let me tell you, the most telling and important factor in winning a national title, or becoming national powers is recruiting, plain and simple. If you start with losers, you'll end up with slightly improved losers!There are lies, damm lies, and there is statistics. Alabama and FSU players have become complacent because all of the success of the previous teams have accomplished. You guys have convinced me that OSU is going beat the shit out of Oragon with all this numbers and stuff. Enjoy the game should be a good because the broncos are not in it.
Honolulu808
01-09-15, 21:01
Just read this and it sounds like Empire Relaxation. The system is in place and no matter who is servicing you the quality is still top notch service with providers that's there. New title, Coach Ivy.
Sports team is very interesting to follow. Some people looks at stats, individual and team. Coaches main focus though is building the perfect program in where athletes with abilities are drawn into the system. With that said Ohio St. And Oregon are 2 teams that has an awesome system in place. Even if Mariota is not able to complete the game someone will come in, system changes a little to better fit the ability of that athletic and the game goes on.
With a good program even UH sports can do it and have with softball, men and women volleyball. Not the best of the best goes to those sports and the team is always competing for the top. Less is said with football but basketball may be heading to that direction.
Urban Meyer my have perfected the "system" at Utah, Florida and now Ohio St. Nick Saban at Alabama has it. Oregon has Nike to provide the perfect sports department.
Not a Dallas fan but they got ripped today cause I don't see how you can reverse that catch but I guess the refs made up for last weeks bad call.
Lowlys One
01-12-15, 13:06
Not a Dallas fan but they got ripped today cause I don't see how you can reverse that catch but I guess the refs made up for last weeks bad call.I don't like that rule either, although I say Dez had possession, two feet in bounds, ball secured for two feet to hit the grass, then a third step hit the ground, possession still, then with that third step that he plants and launches for the goal line, ball still in possesion until he strecthes the arm and it makes contact with the ground and then buckles a slight bit, which should be then a dead ball, ground cannot cause a fumble, this catch and the "Calvin Johnson ", catch was different in that Johnson, hadn't established possesion before breaking his fall and losing possesion.
I don't like that rule either, although I say Dez had possession, two feet in bounds, ball secured for two feet to hit the grass, then a third step hit the ground, possession still, then with that third step that he plants and launches for the goal line, ball still in possesion until he strecthes the arm and it makes contact with the ground and then buckles a slight bit, which should be then a dead ball, ground cannot cause a fumble, this catch and the "Calvin Johnson ", catch was different in that Johnson, hadn't established possesion before breaking his fall and losing possesion.And whatever happened to having clear visual evidence to reverse call? Because if anything it was clear he had the ball until he reached out.
Lowlys One
01-12-15, 22:29
And whatever happened to having clear visual evidence to reverse call? Because if anything it was clear he had the ball until he reached out.Here is the rule, Calvin Johnson rule, http://thebiglead.com/2010/09/12/calvin-johnson-and-the-going-to-the-ground-rule/ very confusing really, all I know is if a player can hold the ball for three steps, without any bobbles (I consider that posession), then tries to make a play as he is falling to the ground, the same standard rule should apply, the ground cannot cause a fumble.
Here are two reports; http://www.sportingnews.com/ncaa-football/story/2014-12-09/hawaii-athletic-director-ben-jay-steps-down and the other one: http://www.hawaiireporter.com/ben-jay-resigns-early-as-university-of-hawaiis-ad. I think he and the Chancellor made an agreement that he'd stay around long enough to find another Athletic director, and help with the transition over. We lost another 3 million this season, coupled with an ncaa ruling to upgrade per diem for scholarship athletes, I believe will add from a low of 15 dollars a day, up to 35 dollars a day, everyday for the school year for every scholar athlete, which for schools like ours who do not make money every season, is just the nails going into the coffin, the writing is on the wall, if we lose money again this 2015 season, it looks more and more certain we will lose our college football in Hawaii, (come on coach Chow, you got to win and win now!) never thought I'd see the day when no you. H. Game to tail gate at, we losing more than just football, losing one hell of a party too! I agree to about Ben Jay quietly stepping down, maybe had something to do with the improprieties with regards to basketball program, maybe he was the fall guy, cause the Chancellor and his staff was well aware of these illegalities. So to all mongers, if you want and care about the football program, its time we stand up and be counted at the gates at least!I read the 2 articles and the second states what the first article failed to. He got debts waivered from upper campus. Which pretty much means no matter how you look at it the school is still down 13+ million. Of course this could also be funds the department was owed from upper campus for years, as all revenue from athletics go to upper campus first. From day one jay was a clown. He wanted to set the name straight for UH and was set on warriors. For me I don't care what it is but it bothers me that due to public pressure he swayed to bring back the rainbow. Pretty much showed how little confidence he had on his decisions and no plans. Then as time went how many times we hear from him is, "I didn't know the situation in the department was this bad. " Pretty much just excuses and no solutions. As angry I got on how Gib Arnold's firing was handled, supposedly by then he was powerless and the decision came from the interim chancelor. UH said they have no obligation to pay his salary but will keep him on the job till the end of the school year. Why? No idea as they probably won't hire anybody till the year is done. The whole UH system is messed up, so the football program might be destined to shutdown at this point. Imo I think the department messed up by getting rid of Donavan.
Lowlys One
01-13-15, 00:56
I read the 2 articles and the second states what the first article failed to. He got debts waivered from upper campus. Which pretty much means no matter how you look at it the school is still down 13+ million. Of course this could also be funds the department was owed from upper campus for years, as all revenue from athletics go to upper campus first. From day one jay was a clown. He wanted to set the name straight for UH and was set on warriors. For me I don't care what it is but it bothers me that due to public pressure he swayed to bring back the rainbow. Pretty much showed how little confidence he had on his decisions and no plans. Then as time went how many times we hear from him is, "I didn't know the situation in the department was this bad. " Pretty much just excuses and no solutions. As angry I got on how Gib Arnold's firing was handled, supposedly by then he was powerless and the decision came from the interim chancelor. UH said they have no obligation to pay his salary but will keep him on the job till the end of the school year. Why? No idea as they probably won't hire anybody till the year is done. The whole UH system is messed up, so the football program might be destined to shutdown at this point. Imo I think the department messed up by getting rid of Donavan.I either saw this on television or read a report, that he (ben jay) was going to stay aboard to help the next regime transition in smoothly. You sound like you have a bit of knowledge with the University's administrations, me personally I like the Rainbow warrior's or better yet "Bows", old school. Idk maybe it just seems like it to me but have you ever noticed, our University always seems to hire these higher ups like Chancellors, Presidents even athletic directors, who sign multi year deals, come here, do nothing but either lose money or worse yet steal money then leave while still being paid, I swear these people are like on a circuit just going from university to university, and swindling, they look so harmless, then when you get a clear view (always in hindsight) of their actions, they are gone, with the money you owe and money they took! Maybe we got to look into the trustees or who ever makes the decision to hire and fire these executives? As far as the football program imo we can't handle another year of losing three million, good news is that we have two back to back games at Ohio State and Wisconsin (yep we in such bad shape as a program that we call playing two away games against the Big 10's top teams a blessing) this coming year that will yield us 2. 4 million, so we may be ok for this upcoming year, coupled with the fact that we should be competitive in our conference.
I either saw this on television or read a report, that he (ben jay) was going to stay aboard to help the next regime transition in smoothly. You sound like you have a bit of knowledge with the University's administrations, me personally I like the Rainbow warrior's or better yet "Bows", old school. Idk maybe it just seems like it to me but have you ever noticed, our University always seems to hire these higher ups like Chancellors, Presidents even athletic directors, who sign multi year deals, come here, do nothing but either lose money or worse yet steal money then leave while still being paid, I swear these people are like on a circuit just going from university to university, and swindling, they look so harmless, then when you get a clear view (always in hindsight) of their actions, they are gone, with the money you owe and money they took! Maybe we got to look into the trustees or who ever makes the decision to hire and fire these executives? As far as the football program imo we can't handle another year of losing three million, good news is that we have two back to back games at Ohio State and Wisconsin (yep we in such bad shape as a program that we call playing two away games against the Big 10's top teams a blessing) this coming year that will yield us 2. 4 million, so we may be ok for this upcoming year, coupled with the fact that we should be competitive in our conference.I listen to espn 1420 a lot and keep up with what's written in the papers and lots of times things don't match up. Yeah they said going keep jay till June to help out with the next AD. Problem is doesn't seen they are searching right now and why would they want him to follow Jay's procedures? IMO it was just an excuse to keep him on the job for the remainder of the year. Problem with the university is the legislature is butting their nose in too much and don't understand that college athletics is a business. When Jim Donavan came in the department was already in debt, and Crenshaw the chancelor at the time told him to operate like a business. Donovan did so as he constantly talked to the state as a salesman for funding, ran pregame events, fired Nash due to performance, and attempting to arrange the Stevie wonder concert. The debt was already high so it wasn't going to erase right away, but during his tenure the department made small profits. The big decision to move to the MW was costly, but I really believe there was long term plans to get through it. Unfortunately the state didn't see it that way and got rid of Crenshaw and looked for a way to force Donovan out. From there all his work was dismantled and left us in the mess we are in today. If it comes up next time I can get into on how I think the department got into debt in the first place. Let's just say it dates back to the June jones era. At the moment the best we all can do to save the football team is make donations and support the remainder of the sports. Especially men's basketball as they potentially can be the most profitable.
And whatever happened to having clear visual evidence to reverse call? Because if anything it was clear he had the ball until he reached out.Lets just its a stupid rule, but still a rule in writing that has to be followed. It's the same years ago when we all first learned about the qb tuck rule during the snowy Oakland / New England game. That rule might have made Brady's career what he is today.
Congratulations to the Buckeyes on there easy win if wasn't for those turnovers they would have put 60 on Oregon and also Congratulations to Marcus for having a great season and probably be the #1 or #2 pick in this up coming draft. Hopefully nobody lost there mongering $$$ by betting on Oregon as stated the more physical team wins and Ohio st RB big E could not be stop. Next big game Superbowl. Time to head out to celebrate the Buckeyes BIG ML WIN $$MUNI, SUMMER, STAR, JESSICA here I come.
Lowlys One
01-13-15, 04:35
Congratulations to the Buckeyes on there easy win if wasn't for those turnovers they would have put 60 on Oregon and also Congratulations to Marcus for having a great season and probably be the #1 or #2 pick in this up coming draft. Hopefully nobody lost there mongering $$$ by betting on Oregon as stated the more physical team wins and Ohio st RB big E could not be stop. Next big game Superbowl. Time to head out to celebrate the Buckeyes BIG ML WIN $$MUNI, SUMMER, STAR, JESSICA here I come.I think Ohio State could play the whole 2nd team on offense and defense, platoon in the third team to create an edge in endurance and intensity and win, their whole second team is 3 and 4 star recruits, third team has 3 star recruits, like their quarter back. This team is loaded, next year they will be even better, maybe back to back titles, real good chance! As for Marcus not that he played that bad, Ohio State is that good but he looked average speed and acuracy, not sure now if he going in the first round at all now, if he isn't, maybe he should consider returning to Oregon, I'm not feeling good about how sucessful he can be in the nfl. I can't say that about Ezekial, I love his running style, low (maybe he's just short) blazing speed in his first three steps, and runs through the tiniest holes, shifty but still straight forward type shifty, seems to only bounce off initial defenders.
Lowlys One
01-13-15, 05:25
They may have just lost in the national title game but the fact that he made it into the playoffs and then into the title game is nothing short of incredible. That means this University, the football program and the coaching staff have something really special, enough to even out the odds of playing against teams with superior talent, in some cases much superior talent like Florida State, and until the fourth quarter even Ohio State, gives us hope that someday we can challenge the big boys, with less talent and money and be sucessful. Their system is not an ordinary one but it works and it has worked in time and consistency, as much an anomoly as Ohio State is talented and deep!
I think Ohio State could play the whole 2nd team on offense and defense, platoon in the third team to create an edge in endurance and intensity and win, their whole second team is 3 and 4 star recruits, third team has 3 star recruits, like their quarter back. This team is loaded, next year they will be even better, maybe back to back titles, real good chance! As for Marcus not that he played that bad, Ohio State is that good but he looked average speed and acuracy, not sure now if he going in the first round at all now, if he isn't, maybe he should consider returning to Oregon, I'm not feeling good about how sucessful he can be in the nfl. I can't say that about Ezekial, I love his running style, low (maybe he's just short) blazing speed in his first three steps, and runs through the tiniest holes, shifty but still straight forward type shifty, seems to only bounce off initial defenders.As stated in previous post, Univ. Of Hawaii will go on the road to play Ohio State and Wisconsin this year. Good luck!
They may have just lost in the national title game but the fact that he made it into the playoffs and then into the title game is nothing short of incredible. That means this University, the football program and the coaching staff have something really special, enough to even out the odds of playing against teams with superior talent, in some cases much superior talent like Florida State, and until the fourth quarter even Ohio State, gives us hope that someday we can challenge the big boys, with less talent and money and be sucessful. Their system is not an ordinary one but it works and it has worked in time and consistency, as much an anomoly as Ohio State is talented and deep!I like oregons offensive system, but I always expected sometime or another the high pace offense will become a gimmick. Yesterday the Buckeyes exposed the flaws on running such a system. Technically Oregons offense is a variation of the run and shoot, just with more running plays. Although when June Jones ran it here he failed to do the huddle part. But we'll see how much teams learn and adapt next season. On the plus side for Oregon since they are in the pac 12, most teams don't play smash mouth football and usually always try to match wits. That's exactly what Oregon wants.
As stated in previous post, Univ. Of Hawaii will go on the road to play Ohio State and Wisconsin this year. Good luck!Those "money games" at Ohio State and Wisconsin are two almost certain losses. Hopefully they won't produce any substantial injuries. On the other hand, Hawaii could win its home games against UC Davis (an FCS team that went 2-9 last year) and Louisiana-Monroe (a team from the lowly Sunbelt Conference that went 4-8 last year). Hawaii's home game against ineffective Colorado (2-10 last year) could also potentially be winnable, although Colorado beat Hawaii (in Colorado) last season by 21-12.
Lowlys One
01-13-15, 22:13
I like oregons offensive system, but I always expected sometime or another the high pace offense will become a gimmick. Yesterday the Buckeyes exposed the flaws on running such a system. Technically Oregons offense is a variation of the run and shoot, just with more running plays. Although when June Jones ran it here he failed to do the huddle part. But we'll see how much teams learn and adapt next season. On the plus side for Oregon since they are in the pac 12, most teams don't play smash mouth football and usually always try to match wits. That's exactly what Oregon wants.This system is here to stay and as long as you try to defend it, it's going to work barring physical error, or wrong reads, of course that's a lot of could be errors, oh yeah and the rare occasion that the other guys are not just supremely more talented but also deeper than you. On the nfl level, we'll have to see, but I bet there are a lot of interested eyes. June Jones threw the ball imo, to much, although we always hear about the great touchdown to interception ratio and the high completion percentage, Chip and Oregon they will run more than June, and a lot of the times run straight up the middle not power runs but open gap with quick, fast guys. Yeah Stanford the most physical team in the pac 12, would always ruin the season finally got past that, but in the end if you make it there, the other team is usually the same as Ohio State was this year the most everything team! Nah, but you know something Ohio State wasn't and even going into next year the most talented and deepest team, Alabama is without a doubt that team. That's why I think Urban is the best coach in college, maybe anywhere? If Urban had the players Saban has, imo, he'd be stringing 2-3 in a row national titles. Alabama was supposed to win this year, Ohio State's time was next year with the 2013 recruiting class, even though that was an unreal class for Meyers, it still shouldn't be able to overcome the fact that Alabama has been the number 1 ranked recruiting school from 2011 to at least 2015. Alabama, of the 85 scholarship players that are allowed they have 14-5 star recruits, 50-4 star recruits and 21-3 stars recruits, which makes them the only university to have no less than a 3-star prospect on scholarship. Idk though cause maybe it would be unfair to judge Saban against his own work, which is recruiting, cannot really say well if Urban.
Had the players Saban has he would. The reason Urban doesn't have the players Saban has should go only to credit Saban and not to discredit him.
Lowlys One
01-18-15, 07:20
NFC: Seattle-7. 5 versus Greenbay, Seattle's defense is playing as good as they did last year, their offense has improved a great deal over last season's offense with Russel Wilson continuing to improved into a perrineal pro bowler. Greenbay with Arron "the bad man" Rodger's at the helm is having the best year of any qb. Ever, but with a suspect, bend but no break defense, that gets even shakier when playing away from Lambeau. Seattle Seahawks 24-17!
AFC: New England-6. 5 versus Indianappolis, New England at home, what else do we need to know? Indianappolis has the makings of a great offense, but not so on defense. I like Patriots 31-21!
Should be a good one not sure who I'm going with yet but most likely taking the dog.
Lowlys One
01-19-15, 03:47
Should be a good one not sure who I'm going with yet but most likely taking the dog.I can't believe how poorly Seattle played, especially the offense, just further proof as to how great Aaron Rodgers has become. Given that Seattle needed only five dam minutes to undo what the Packers built up over the rest of the game. Could look at this either way, Seattle so dominating that five minutes of urgent play is all they need to win or not as good as last year being they would have never had 3 quarters of poor play like today. I'm not sure either seems like a pick them game here, spread should be even or close to it, idk. Couldn't believe that 5 minutes they had, in shock and so should Green Bay, they so many chances to end the game, and by that same token Seattle had to make so many plays without fail or they would be out. Worst 5 minutes of play prolly in the history of the franchise, be a long long offseason even for Rodgers!
I can't believe how poorly Seattle played, especially the offense, just further proof as to how great Aaron Rodgers has become. Given that Seattle needed only five dam minutes to undo what the Packers built up over the rest of the game. Could look at this either way, Seattle so dominating that five minutes of urgent play is all they need to win or not as good as last year being they would have never had 3 quarters of poor play like today. I'm not sure either seems like a pick them game here, spread should be even or close to it, idk. Couldn't believe that 5 minutes they had, in shock and so should Green Bay, they so many chances to end the game, and by that same token Seattle had to make so many plays without fail or they would be out. Worst 5 minutes of play prolly in the history of the franchise, be a long long offseason even for Rodgers!Well 1st it was Detroit that got ripped off by Dallas by that bad PI call noncall that the football gods paid Dallas back by messing up that Dez catch non catch and now GB who was suppose to lose last week so this leads me to believe the football gods will some how make Seattle lose since they supposed to have lost to GB. If my theory is true New England will win the Superbowl.
Lowlys One
01-19-15, 06:34
Well 1st it was Detroit that got ripped off by Dallas by that bad PI call noncall that the football gods paid Dallas back by messing up that Dez catch non catch and now GB who was suppose to lose last week so this leads me to believe the football gods will some how make Seattle lose since they supposed to have lost to GB. If my theory is true New England will win the Superbowl.Thats makes more sense than what we witnessed the past 3 weeks in the nfc, I'm with you Brady and the Patroits celebrate another title, with this, Tom goes down as the best ever bar none, for a little while, Greenbay seemed to almost quit, why fall to the ground after the last interception, no one in ten yards of him, then three straight running plays with the bad bad man at qb, two point conversion, db looked on like it didn't matter? Patroits by default I think!
Lowlys One
01-19-15, 20:58
The only thing I can come up with as to why and how the Greenbay Packers handed the Seahawks a trip to the super bowl is they (Greenbay) thought they actually had the game won and was thinking about other things. That is the only explaination that would fit the things that unfolded yesterday things like the last interception, db does a feet first slide that would make even Ricky Henderson proud, except that it at least ten yards premature, then Greenbay runs the ball three straight times even with Rodgers (best qb, I've seen play, BTW the best season of any qb at anytime since the inception or this league) as your qb!? Then after a Seahawk touchdown, then subsequence 2 point conversion, the coverage was non existant, even given that the db had so much time to react to the ball thrown to a reciever because Wilson threw up a major blooper, the ball looked like it was in the air a good 3-4 seconds, players in this league can do almost 40 yards in that amount of time yet he failed to get there, when he saw the reception, I swear it looked like he threw his hand up into the air as if to say, no matter we still win! Then the mental error with the onside kick, mental errors with all that was at stake, and this special team, was really a special, special team trained and drilled on the execution of the onside kick, yet again commits a mental error? There was even more examples but if you could eliminate just one of those errors, they win the game, somebody should be held accountable, The Seahawks claim to never quit and the power of belief, idk about you guys but it was obvious to me just judging their actions that even they were surprised and shocked with the outcome!
Pineapple50
01-19-15, 21:19
McCarthy was playing "Not to Lose". The whole second half was painfully "conservative" play-calling! He's got to keep scoring just like the Patriots Coach. Bill Belichick. The Peckers just flat-out "BLEW-IT" !
JT.
The only thing I can come up with as to why and how the Greenbay Packers handed the Seahawks a trip to the super bowl is they (Greenbay) thought they actually had the game won and was thinking about other things. That is the only explaination that would fit the things that unfolded yesterday things like the last interception, db does a feet first slide that would make even Ricky Henderson proud, except that it at least ten yards premature, then Greenbay runs the ball three straight times even with Rodgers (best qb, I've seen play, BTW the best season of any qb at anytime since the inception or this league) as your qb!? Then after a Seahawk touchdown, then subsequence 2 point conversion, the coverage was non existant, even given that the db had so much time to react to the ball thrown to a reciever because Wilson threw up a major blooper, the ball looked like it was in the air a good 3-4 seconds, players in this league can do almost 40 yards in that amount of time yet he failed to get there, when he saw the reception, I swear it looked like he threw his hand up into the air as if to say, no matter we still win! Then the mental error with the onside kick, mental errors with all that was at stake, and this special team, was really a special, special team trained and drilled on the execution of the onside kick, yet again commits a mental error? There was even more examples but if you could eliminate just one of those errors, they win the game, somebody should be held accountable, The Seahawks claim to never quit and the power of belief, idk about you guys but it was obvious to me just judging their actions that even they were surprised and shocked with the outcome!
Lowlys One
01-19-15, 23:56
McCarthy was playing "Not to Lose". The whole second half was painfully "conservative" play-calling! He's got to keep scoring just like the Patriots Coach. Bill Belichick. The Peckers just flat-out "BLEW-IT" !
JT.I guess firing the guy on account of what happened yesterday would not be a good guidline for building a team, as it might give the franchise a negative reputation as far as work conditions go, then acquiring top notched coaching will come at more cost, but this will be remembered in case the Packers start sliding backwards, good lord must've been about 6-7 things that they had to do wrong in order for the Seahawks to have a chance, they found a way to get them all wrong, shocking!
The only thing I can come up with as to why and how the Greenbay Packers handed the Seahawks a trip to the super bowl is they (Greenbay) thought they actually had the game won and was thinking about other things. That is the only explaination that would fit the things that unfolded yesterday things like the last interception, db does a feet first slide that would make even Ricky Henderson proud, except that it at least ten yards prematureThis mindset is probably based on a similar situation between the Chargers and the Patriots in a playoff game. The Chargers intercepted a pass by Brady and was running down the field, but then got stripped of the ball from behind by a Patriot player. The Patriots got the ball back. The time on the clock was about the same and the Patriots trailed by two scores. They gave Brady another chance. And NE eventually won the game.
New England caught cheating again 12 balls deflated. Even tho I think they win Superbowl I hope Seattle beats the crap out of them.
Hornysamowen
01-21-15, 08:13
New England caught cheating again 12 balls deflated. Even tho I think they win Superbowl I hope Seattle beats the crap out of them.It seems like Tom Bradys and the Bill Belichecks legacy is fucked. Busted two times for cheating, shame.
New England caught cheating again 12 balls deflated. Even tho I think they win Superbowl I hope Seattle beats the crap out of them.One of the talking heads on ESPN this am said that the NFL was investigating that NE had deflated 11 of the 12 game balls that they used, and that the Pats were conducting their own investigation as to what happened to the 12th ball. LMMFAO!
Captin Crunch
01-21-15, 09:56
It seems like Tom Bradys and the Bill Belichecks legacy is fucked. Busted two times for cheating, shame.I probay still going bet on NE. Pete Carroll is no angel himself for the way he dug out on USC.
What's this story about June Jones being asked to fill the AD but refuses. Then he says maybe interested in coaching again if Chow no longer is in?
Hornysamowen
01-21-15, 19:23
New England caught cheating again 12 balls deflated. Even tho I think they win Superbowl I hope Seattle beats the crap out of them.Even if the New England Patriots win in the Superbowl, they will never be considered to be greater than the sf 49 ers of joe montana and bill walsh, or the steelers of chuck noll. It seems like they have turned into a joke with brady denying the allegations. Their legacy is truly garbage now.
Lowlys One
01-22-15, 00:50
One of the talking heads on ESPN this am said that the NFL was investigating that NE had deflated 11 of the 12 game balls that they used, and that the Pats were conducting their own investigation as to what happened to the 12th ball. LMMFAO!LOL, that's funny cause it sounds about right. But seriously, I haven't heard any of the cvircumstances as far as the ball being flattened, as there isn't a set pounds per square inch, not an exact amount but it has to be between A and see, so A represents a ball on the harder side of legal and see represents a ball on the softer side of legal. Now maybe it could be the Patriots equipment manager, knowing Brady for a decade and knowing he likes his ball the softests legally possible, he may have took it upon himself to go a little softer than legal, in a case like that or a case similiar, if they win this superbowl, I'd say Brady is the best of all time!
It seems like Tom Bradys and the Bill Belichecks legacy is fucked. Busted two times for cheating, shame.Bill Belichick just had to take the blue pill for deflated balls.
Now who are the football gods going with my original theory New England or now that NE cheated Seattle? Tuff call.
Lowlys One
01-22-15, 10:35
New England caught cheating again 12 balls deflated. Even tho I think they win Superbowl I hope Seattle beats the crap out of them.Funny but all of a sudden, Seattle with it's legion of doom somehow seems like the good guys in this matchup. My feelings at this point is they are who we thought they were, I look back and my doubt in them came from their last game with the Packers, which they came from behind after playing terrible, but they won, they still won! I'm going Seattle in a game for the ages!
Honolulu808
01-22-15, 15:05
Forget the 2 teams although they may be the 2 best teams in the NFL right now.
The real champions of the super bowl will be the media and advertisers. Media because the more story's they create the more people will watching and reading their reports. Advertisers because with all the hype the media is creating the more people will be watching the game. I would bet that this super bowl will be the highest viewed game ever. Saying that, super bowl Sunday may be the best time to visit AMP's.
Tommy Flanagan, I mean Tommy Brady didn't know anything about throwing deflated balls. Yeah, yeah that's the ticket.
KoreanThumper
01-23-15, 13:27
Tommy Flanagan, I mean Tommy Brady didn't know anything about throwing deflated balls. Yeah, yeah that's the ticket.Need to change the name to the cheater bowl.
Lowlys One
01-23-15, 17:58
Tommy Flanagan, I mean Tommy Brady didn't know anything about throwing deflated balls. Yeah, yeah that's the ticket.This is getting really interesting, sounds like the league is getting ready to render a verdict, some are even calling for a penalty harsher than that of the New Orleans Saints, team fined 500,000 plus stripping them of 2 consecutive years of their 2nd round draft choice, suspending the coach for a year and varying lengths of player suspensions. But how do you prove something like who deflated the balls, when everyone had an opportunity to do this. I also understand that only the qb would have a vested interest in something like the ball's firmness but is that enough to rule? I also understand that this is not a court of law where one has to prove beyond a shadow of a doubt, or even by a preponderance of evidence! But barring a confession, I just don't see how this goes, this could get really messy and where weould the players union stand in this matter?
Here are the balls the Patriots are submitting for the Superbowl.
This is getting really interesting, sounds like the league is getting ready to render a verdict, some are even calling for a penalty harsher than that of the New Orleans Saints, team fined 500,000 plus stripping them of 2 consecutive years of their 2nd round draft choice, suspending the coach for a year and varying lengths of player suspensions. But how do you prove something like who deflated the balls, when everyone had an opportunity to do this. I also understand that only the qb would have a vested interest in something like the ball's firmness but is that enough to rule? I also understand that this is not a court of law where one has to prove beyond a shadow of a doubt, or even by a preponderance of evidence! But barring a confession, I just don't see how this goes, this could get really messy and where weould the players union stand in this matter?THey should pay a heavy price. Was listening to Troy Aikman and what make sense is Brady had to know cause you not messing with the balls if it could hurt your team unless everybody looking at it wrong and it was an Indy fan that did it hoping to help the Colts but New England was just that good never work. How many of you believe that not me but could have happened.
This is getting really interesting, sounds like the league is getting ready to render a verdict, some are even calling for a penalty harsher than that of the New Orleans Saints, team fined 500,000 plus stripping them of 2 consecutive years of their 2nd round draft choice, suspending the coach for a year and varying lengths of player suspensions. But how do you prove something like who deflated the balls, when everyone had an opportunity to do this. I also understand that only the qb would have a vested interest in something like the ball's firmness but is that enough to rule? I also understand that this is not a court of law where one has to prove beyond a shadow of a doubt, or even by a preponderance of evidence! But barring a confession, I just don't see how this goes, this could get really messy and where weould the players union stand in this matter?Money is no object to these organizations, so fines are not a deterrent. When drafting late in the 31st, or 32nd position, teams seem to explore the free agent market more. I don't think the league can pinpoint a specific person in this case, so the team should be punished as a whole. I think the best course would be to reduce the Patriots salary cap for a season or two.
Lowlys One
01-26-15, 03:23
THey should pay a heavy price. Was listening to Troy Aikman and what make sense is Brady had to know cause you not messing with the balls if it could hurt your team unless everybody looking at it wrong and it was an Indy fan that did it hoping to help the Colts but New England was just that good never work. How many of you believe that not me but could have happened.I don't think it could be a Colts fan simply because the balls were checked I think 2 hours and 15 minutes before gametime, it was ok'ed, then again at half time, this is where the balls had fail inspection, inflated again taped in accordance to protocol, then checked again after the game where it failed again. Yes there prolly could have been a time after pregame and half time inspection that someone other than the Patriots could deflate the balls as the balls come and go into and out of play, which is why I find it interesting on how they are going to rule, if it were our courts I would think no way could you convict, but this is the nfl and the commish's office. I think they should either say each team is responsible for their balls to be properly inflated throughout the game, no questions asked if failure to do so, or failure to report or take matters out of the teams hand and come up with a valve or system that after a ball is inflated to proper levels it cannot be inflated or deflated again.
Captin Crunch
01-26-15, 09:25
Who you got and why? New England or Seattle? Over or Under? I, myself, like Pats and over. That means it will end up being Seattle and under.
Lowlys One
01-27-15, 10:46
Who you got and why? New England or Seattle? Over or Under? I, myself, like Pats and over. That means it will end up being Seattle and under.I'm going Seattle, if both teams play their best I think Seattle's defense can control the game with one exception, Gronkowski, he'll keep it close and a game for the ages here, closest superbowl matchup in my memory, anyone remember a pick'them game for the superbowl?
I no like any of these two SBowl teams but will be cheering for local boy, 'Hawks center Unger. But really, Pats +1 ; no O / you for the bet.
Why did the ballboy take the footballs into the bathroom? Who's going to steal them? Is that 12 footballs in your pants or are you're glad to Ginselle?
Hornysamowen
01-31-15, 19:05
Who you got and why? New England or Seattle? Over or Under? I, myself, like Pats and over. That means it will end up being Seattle and under.Agree, it feels like Seattle and under. Sorry Pats, denied again.
Lowlys One
02-01-15, 17:23
Couple more hours to go, Superbowl 49, betting lines are still a pick them game, oddly enough though see. Be. S. Is reporting that someone or some entity has placed a seven figure bet on the Patroits to win. http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on-football/25013314/seven-figure-bet-placed-on-patriots-vegas-could-lose-if-new-england-wins, seems this line had installed the patroits a slight favorite, now because of the bet their line has moved and are no longer favored, overall betting, Patroits seems to be the choice but according to statistics Vegas has lost money only twice in the last 24 years on Superbowls, which is shocking imo, so smart money goes with the Seattle Seahawks, as for me the Seattle Seahawks passes the eye test, legion of doom will get it's second consecutive world title and I've said it last year and the same remains true this year, the legion of doom is one of if not the best defense I've seen ever, (Bears, Ravens, Steelers had great teams to but) if I'm right they win today, in shut down style, Vegas wins again. Seattle Seahawks_24, New England Patroits 14.
Lowlys One
02-01-15, 23:21
Yep, alright, even with my magical magnifiying eye, I got to put Brady and the Patroits as the best qb and franchise that I've seen play. For now, I have a feeling by the time a certain guy named Aaron's done playing, I may have to revise the qb list, but for now, going to be hard to argue with Brady, even with this deflate gate looming.
Not going to go that far but I think what Brady has is consistence which goes a long way. Way to many QB's either crack under pressure or suffer from overconfidence as the game goes on. Basically he's good and knows it but doesn't aspire to be great hence, on accident, turns about to be amazing.
BTW have to admit even though hate both teams today I thought the last two real plays (crazy catch followed by interception) were very fitting and was, for the first time in a long time, a pretty satisfying end to a Super Bowl.
Honolulu808
02-01-15, 23:38
Super Bowl embarrassment. What up with Seattle towards the ending of the game, Bruce Irvin getting ejected from the game for unsportsmanlike penalty shows how the Seahawks are poor losers and how unprofessional that team really is.
The better team did win today.
Dachinaman
02-01-15, 23:39
I agree to that +1.
Not going to go that far but I think what Brady has is consistence which goes a long way. Way to many QB's either crack under pressure or suffer from overconfidence as the game goes on. Basically he's good and knows it but doesn't aspire to be great hence, on accident, turns about to be amazing.
BTW have to admit even though hate both teams today I thought the last two real plays (crazy catch followed by interceptions) were very fitting and was, for the first time in a long time, a pretty satisfying end to a Super Bowl.
Hornysamowen
02-01-15, 23:39
LOL, the seatlle coach who called the pass play instead of running it with marshawn should be fired. They could have run it at least twice to get a touchdown. What a dumb call.
Amen man but so should lots of people like Brandon Bostick on Green Bay. Fuck Seattle shouldn't haven't even been in the Super Bowl so no tears when they lost over hear.
Lowlys One
02-02-15, 04:59
Super Bowl embarrassment. What up with Seattle towards the ending of the game, Bruce Irvin getting ejected from the game for unsportsmanlike penalty shows how the Seahawks are poor losers and how unprofessional that team really is.
The better team did win today.Yeah I agree theres a difference between this years Seahawks and last years, they lost this year, they arrogant, thinking they all that!
Lowlys One
02-02-15, 05:10
LOL, the seatlle coach who called the pass play instead of running it with marshawn should be fired. They could have run it at least twice to get a touchdown. What a dumb call.Yeah from the shotgun formation as well, maybe a play action to Marshawn, then a safe throw to a corner of the end zone making sure if you miss, you miss long out of bounds, but not a quick hit to the middle of the field where it is the most congested, short of the end zone as well, WTF?
Yeah from the shotgun formation as well, maybe a play action to Marshawn, then a safe throw to a corner of the end zone making sure if you miss, you miss long out of bounds, but not a quick hit to the middle of the field where it is the most congested, short of the end zone as well, WTF?I'm in vegas right now and even Patriots fans are saying the samething and I quote We were very lucky and thanks to the dumb ass who called that play instead of giving it to beast mode. END QUOTE.
I'm in vegas right now and even Patriots fans are saying the samething and I quote We were very lucky and thanks to the dumb ass who called that play instead of giving it to beast mode. END QUOTE.Pete Carroll and his staff merely out thought themselves into a loss. In his post game interview that play was a "throw away" play and if they didn't score they would run it on third and forth down. But how can you not give Lynch three cracks at it? The Patriots only stopped him at the line of scrimmage for no gain once all game. Congrats to the Pats now you can thumb your nose to all the haters haha!
Super Bowl embarrassment. What up with Seattle towards the ending of the game, Bruce Irvin getting ejected from the game for unsportsmanlike penalty shows how the Seahawks are poor losers and how unprofessional that team really is.
The better team did win today.Sure to all of us it didn't make sense to not let lynch run it. But hell it really could have gone either way. Had the pass been completed everybody would be talking how smart of a move it was due everyone including the pats expected lynch to get it. The play failed, hey it happens, move on. Now the inexcusable move was seahawks the and coaching after the interception. Pats clearly was about to take the safety and Seattle panics and jumps offsides. The coaches are the one responsible on being aware of the situation and calming the players down. The offense wouldn't have had much time but after the safety all they would need was a fg and they still had a timeout. Like I said imo after the interception, Seattle gave up and that's clearly inexcusable when they still had a good chance to win. And we don't even have to mention them being sour pusses with the scuffle at the end. In the end I hate both teams but hate seattle more because they're just a bunch of young immature kids. How I jumped for joy seeing Sherman shut up and about to cry.
Sure to all of us it didn't make sense to not let lynch run it. But hell it really could have gone either way. Had the pass been completed everybody would be talking how smart of a move it was due everyone including the pats expected lynch to get it. The play failed, hey it happens, move on. Now the inexcusable move was seahawks the and coaching after the interception. Pats clearly was about to take the safety and Seattle panics and jumps offsides. The coaches are the one responsible on being aware of the situation and calming the players down. The offense wouldn't have had much time but after the safety all they would need was a fg and they still had a timeout. Like I said imo after the interception, Seattle gave up and that's clearly inexcusable when they still had a good chance to win. And we don't even have to mention them being sour pusses with the scuffle at the end. In the end I hate both teams but hate seattle more because they're just a bunch of young immature kids. How I jumped for joy seeing Sherman shut up and about to cry.Yeah, seeing Sherman with his mouth shut and about to cry was redemption for all those times we'd see him running his mouth! Ain't karma a beeeeeeatch! I did not really like either team in SB XLIX but at least it was an entertaining game.
Boston has taken the mantle of being Title Town USA. They passed Green Bay, Pittsburgh, and San Francisco. I don't know why SF fans wanted New England to win. Now, Brady is thought of as the greatest QB over Montana. Belichick takes over Bill Walsh as greatest NFL coach. NE just needs one more superbowl win to become greatest franchise in the National Football League.
I don't know why SF fans wanted New England to win.Because Seattle beat the 49 ers in last years NFC championship game. So, they would cheer for the other team to beat Seattle.
Boston has taken the mantle of being Title Town USA. They passed Green Bay, Pittsburgh, and San Francisco. I don't know why SF fans wanted New England to win. Now, Brady is thought of as the greatest QB over Montana. Belichick takes over Bill Walsh as greatest NFL coach. NE just needs one more superbowl win to become greatest franchise in the National Football League.What exactly do you mean title town? Football wise, steelers still got the most with 6 followed by 49 ers and Dallas with 5. The city I believe has the most titles for all sports but that's been a while now. As far as people talking about Brady being the greatest, they just talking out of their ass in the moment. If Rodgers or manning wins next year, they'll say the same about them. Haven't really heard big hype on Bellichick, but if there is that's all it is. Nobody had more future head coaches than Walsh. At one time almost 50% of coaches in the NFL came from Walsh's system. This why I been hating Super Bowl time in recent years. Hear too much bs from the stupid media, causal fans, and bandwagon jumpers.
Latest news is that despite all of the alleged NCAA violations, terminated basketball coach Gib Arnold now wants $1,400,000 from UH and will sue UH if he doesn't get it. What a fiasco.
Lowlys One
02-04-15, 16:08
As of today Alabama has the number one recruiting class for 2015, which makes this the fifth consecutive year in the number one slot. Although currently ranked number seven in preseason polls and losing all their big playmakers on offense, I look for them to be at or near the top when all is said and done, so much 5 star recruits, they have the luxury of depth at every position, whereas teams like T. See. You. , Baylor and Oregon all of which are ranked ahead of Alabama, cannot overcome a couple of key injuries, not nearly the depth as Alabama!
Honolulu808
02-04-15, 16:19
Latest news is that despite all of the alleged NCAA violations, terminated basketball coach Gib Arnold now wants $1,400,000 from UH and will sue UH if he doesn't get it. What a fiasco.Hawaii messed up when they let him go "without cause". There was certainly cause for his termination and if they let him go "with cause" then this money issue for payment would not have been an issue. Again, UH administration messed up. Hence they should pay Arnold his just payment. Arnold should also sue UH for wrongful termination.
Hawaii messed up when they let him go "without cause". There was certainly cause for his termination and if they let him go "with cause" then this money issue for payment would not have been an issue. Again, UH administration messed up. Hence they should pay Arnold his just payment. Arnold should also sue UH for wrongful termination.So, all donations to "We Get Um" and "Na Koa" goes to the Gib Arnold fund.
Latest news is that despite all of the alleged NCAA violations, terminated basketball coach Gib Arnold now wants $1,400,000 from UH and will sue UH if he doesn't get it. What a fiasco.And speaking of the violations there's talk UH will do even more self impose sanctions including possibly post season ban. If all this happens kind of makes firing Arnold pointless.
Lowlys One
02-06-15, 06:17
And speaking of the violations there's talk UH will do even more self impose sanctions including possibly post season ban. If all this happens kind of makes firing Arnold pointless.No chit man wth, and why shoudl this team have to pay even more self imposed sanctions, let the ncaa figure this out, unless its so bad that we fear losing the whole basketball program?
Lowlys One
02-06-15, 06:24
You know what I'm really begining to think, we have a bunch of knuckle head running our University, how Chancellor, President, Ad's and you name it, have either stole or lost money for the university in really knuckle head style, for decades!
Hornysamowen
02-21-15, 15:31
Looks like the fight of the century is finally going to happen, and the pac man is the underdog, looks like easy money could be made.
Looks like the fight of the century is finally going to happen, and the pac man is the underdog, looks like easy money could be made.I hope Manny knocks floyd out but being in vegas, mayweather never loses. From the cabbys to the bartenders, everyone loves floyd because he's "the moneymaker", easy money. Mayweather by controversial split decision.
Looks like the fight of the century is finally going to happen, and the pac man is the underdog, looks like easy money could be made.Fight is in Vegas no way Money Man losing in Vegas.
Honolulu808
02-21-15, 17:08
Looks like the fight of the century is finally going to happen, and the pac man is the underdog, looks like easy money could be made.My money is on the congressman. Mayweather has picked his opponents for garentted wins. Now comes the test.
Fight is in Vegas no way Money Man losing in Vegas.Thats why he needs the extra 20%. He owns vegas. Only way manny wins is by tko.
Fight is in Vegas no way Money Man losing in Vegas.Expect a very dull fight. Run and jab run more and duck and hold. The crowd will boo but vegas locals won't care, they know the fix is in. Moneyweather always makes money for the vegas locals. The best bet to take: going the distance by split decision. Moneyweathers mo.
Lowlys One
02-22-15, 04:22
Fight is in Vegas no way Money Man losing in Vegas.I've always said Floyd Mayweather is the best boxer I've seen, pac is prolly the best fighter I've seen, boxer will beat fighter in a boxing ring, with boxing rules. To bad cause Manny seems such a great person, but since this isn't a beauty contest, Floyd just a little to slick for even a more accomplished champion like Manny, I see Floyd with a decision, hurting Manny a couple times late, but Floyd will be cautious even when hurting Manny. Floyd has been running this show ever since talk of this fight came up. My only question is how the hell do these boxers do a 06\40 split for Floyd on a reported 250 million dollar purse? When MMA superstars would be lucky to approach a million dollar payday for a fight, and substantially less if you're just a champion defending your title? Seems to me someone is getting really rich, some structure or change in how fighters will be getting paid is in order here, maybe it'll take this type of event to unite the fighters, for change.
Hornysamowen
02-22-15, 05:12
I've always said Floyd Mayweather is the best boxer I've seen, pac is prolly the best fighter I've seen, boxer will beat fighter in a boxing ring, with boxing rules. To bad cause Manny seems such a great person, but since this isn't a beauty contest, Floyd just a little to slick for even a more accomplished champion like Manny, I see Floyd with a decision, hurting Manny a couple times late, but Floyd will be cautious even when hurting Manny. Floyd has been running this show ever since talk of this fight came up. My only question is how the hell do these boxers do a 06\40 split for Floyd on a reported 250 million dollar purse? When MMA superstars would be lucky to approach a million dollar payday for a fight, and substantially less if you're just a champion defending your title? Seems to me someone is getting really rich, some structure or change in how fighters will be getting paid is in order here, maybe it'll take this type of event to unite the fighters, for change.Yeah, Dana White is robbing all the mma ufc fighters, that's why I refuse to buy their fights, the ufc guys are getting chump change. Already looking forward to the Pacquiao vs Mayweather rematch in November.
I've always said Floyd Mayweather is the best boxer I've seen, pac is prolly the best fighter I've seen, boxer will beat fighter in a boxing ring, with boxing rules. To bad cause Manny seems such a great person, but since this isn't a beauty contest, Floyd just a little to slick for even a more accomplished champion like Manny, I see Floyd with a decision, hurting Manny a couple times late, but Floyd will be cautious even when hurting Manny. Floyd has been running this show ever since talk of this fight came up. My only question is how the hell do these boxers do a 06\40 split for Floyd on a reported 250 million dollar purse? When MMA superstars would be lucky to approach a million dollar payday for a fight, and substantially less if you're just a champion defending your title? Seems to me someone is getting really rich, some structure or change in how fighters will be getting paid is in order here, maybe it'll take this type of event to unite the fighters, for change.That is why this fight is 5+ years overdue. Pacman just finally gave in because at this point he needs this fight more than mayweather. If manny wins expect a part 2, but if he looses Mandy's career probably will be done and mayweather will retire. Really hard to say who will win as recently both parties haven't looked all that great. Despite constantly winning Mayweather has been taking a lot of hits recently in which defensive fighting is his strength. God knows when the last time he had a KO. Not much has to be said about pacman, just his recent record hasn't been all that great. I guess I still have to take mayweather, but still worries me that he hasn't been on top of his game the past couple years. I really felt Cano could have beaten him had they waited a year later to fight.
Hornysamowen
02-23-15, 16:15
That is why this fight is 5+ years overdue. Pacman just finally gave in because at this point he needs this fight more than mayweather. If manny wins expect a part 2, but if he looses Mandy's career probably will be done and mayweather will retire. Really hard to say who will win as recently both parties haven't looked all that great. Despite constantly winning Mayweather has been taking a lot of hits recently in which defensive fighting is his strength. God knows when the last time he had a KO. Not much has to be said about pacman, just his recent record hasn't been all that great. I guess I still have to take mayweather, but still worries me that he hasn't been on top of his game the past couple years. I really felt Cano could have beaten him had they waited a year later to fight.I think that there is so much money involved in this fight that there will be at least a second fight. If no one gets tkod it might be a draw or a split decision and ensuring another about, just my two cents.
I think that there is so much money involved in this fight that there will be at least a second fight. If no one gets tkod it might be a draw or a split decision and ensuring another about, just my two cents.There is no rematch clause in the fight contract. Floyd is favored to win this fight but I'm going to bank on Manny. I think Floyd is going to do a lot of running and try to wear Manny out the first 6 rounds or so. Most likely result is that Floyd will win by decision going the whole 12 rounds. But I'm hoping Pacquiao can get inside and lay the hands on mayweather. Endurance will be key for Manny to win this fight.
Watching the game on OC16 & tripping out on Iolani point guard. Looks exactly like Harold of Harold & Kumar goes to White Castle.
From a recent Star-Advertiser reader poll:
As the University of Hawaii holds steady on football season-ticket prices, do you expect to attend any games?
No, totally disinterested: 71 percent.
Yes, want to support team: 22 percent.
No, but will pay for TV: 7 percent.
From a recent Star-Advertiser reader poll:
As the University of Hawaii holds steady on football season-ticket prices, do you expect to attend any games?
No, totally disinterested: 71 percent.
Yes, want to support team: 22 percent.
No, but will pay for TV: 7 percent.It's almost as if they're looking for a reason to cancel the program.
Lowlys One
03-13-15, 09:18
It's almost as if they're looking for a reason to cancel the program.Well luckily or not, we should be good for another year because of the last minute scheduling of away games at Ohio St. And Wisconsin for this coming season which should gross us 2. 3 million or so, but the sucess or failure of this program heavily depends on the sucess of next years team and what it can project for the coming year, I think we will contend, but unfortunately only contending for a conference title, isn't going to cut it, from where I'm sitting we lose the football program in two years, it'll be close, I hope I'm wrong.
From a recent Star-Advertiser reader poll:
As the University of Hawaii holds steady on football season-ticket prices, do you expect to attend any games?
No, totally disinterested: 71 percent.
Yes, want to support team: 22 percent.
No, but will pay for TV: 7 percent.Nobody wants to support a losing team UH needs to win and they will come.
Captin Crunch
03-13-15, 11:02
UH wins again today! Bet on them.
From a recent Star-Advertiser reader poll:
As the University of Hawaii holds steady on football season-ticket prices, do you expect to attend any games?
No, totally disinterested: 71 percent.
Yes, want to support team: 22 percent.
No, but will pay for TV: 7 percent.I would think the numbers are just about the same as last year with only slight difference. Pending on the new AD, I believe getting rid of football might be best. The city is raping the state too much to play at the stadium, because of fb the department has to have all these other non profit women sports, and college fb is just getting too out of hand where the ncaa has no control over it anymore. That's just a few reasons why we shouldn't have a fb program anymore. Football yes is a huge moneymaker, for the big boys. For smaller schools with small markets it can break you more than make you.
Hornysamowen
03-13-15, 15:44
It's almost as if they're looking for a reason to cancel the program.What they should cancel is some of those administrative positions in the uh system. They have to many and it seems like redundency.
What they should cancel is some of those administrative positions in the uh system. They have to many and it seems like redundency.My brother, that's bueracracy at its best. I think they have a class for that too, LOL. How the rich get richer.
Hornysamowen
03-13-15, 17:16
There is no rematch clause in the fight contract. Floyd is favored to win this fight but I'm going to bank on Manny. I think Floyd is going to do a lot of running and try to wear Manny out the first 6 rounds or so. Most likely result is that Floyd will win by decision going the whole 12 rounds. But I'm hoping Pacquiao can get inside and lay the hands on mayweather. Endurance will be key for Manny to win this fight.I saw some of the press confrence the other day and looking at both men side by side, I think floyd is going to take this fight. He is bigger with a 5 inch reach advantage anid is just as fast and a skilled counter puncher and boxer.
I saw some of the press confrence the other day and looking at both men side by side, I think floyd is going to take this fight. He is bigger with a 5 inch reach advantage anid is just as fast and a skilled counter puncher and boxer.I got to agree with Hornysamowen frankly Manny just looks too small in comaprison to PrettyBoy. I hate both of them because they lack the ko power but I honestly can't see Manny winning at all. Hell Vegas is going to make the call anyway so go figure. Aloha Friday bro's!
There should be no doubt Benji Taylor should be the head coach. This team is going to be very good next season unless somebody does something stupid. If any of you been watching this team plays unbelievable defense and that wasn't how they looked under Gib Arnald this is all Benji Taylor.
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