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Entirely untrue. The discussion and verification process began long before I took this to the open board. I actually waited for a second ID
from a different independent party BEFORE I took this here.
Both people have nothing / little to do with this board or eccie. Nor do they have a motive to ID treebark as EgrayUpstate....
Showed them a pic from your facebook page and 100% you.
Confirmed by another poster? Now your just making shit up.
http://eccie.net/showthread.php?p=1058025304#post1058025304 << nomad soldier filming thread.
http://eccie.net/showthread.php?t=1675201 <<<kayleeMarie.
Nowhere in EITHER thread does somebody confirm anything.
Do you mean.
Nomad soldier quotes -..."don't care about legalities, there is nothing legal about this hobby so don't pretend to be a back alley lawyer. Your embarassing yourself".?
Here you quoted WIKI?... And an 8 yrold Slate.com article?... Oh the humanity!
Or TwominuteTim quotes -- "This is good advice. I also concur that your best course of action is to file a claim against the estate, even if you have a weak case it could tie up the legal process long enough to force the women into a settlement with you of some sort.
Which any good lawyer would know is total bullshit. TOTAL... BULLSHIT.
I won't even bother going on with that.
Treebark=frankpierce=Scroggy12=Snakepliskin=EgrayUpstate. Two people ID'd that picture as the man who claims to be EGrayUpstate.
I'll meet you at the time and place we discussed. Then we will just see what we'll see.
PK.Can I come and watch? Please? Or maybe video? Then I'll send the video to TMZ or even post it in the " rants & raves " section. I've got your back Loki Pk! LOL.
Snake Pliskin1
04-14-16, 20:28
I want to go as well.
We can all video Plow King as he eats crow!
Then we can do a group hug!
WarrenAJeffers
04-14-16, 20:40
Can I come and watch? Please? Or maybe video? Then I'll send the video to TMZ or even post it in the " rants & raves " section. I've got your back Loki Pk! LOL.Or we provide the video as a gift to normadsoldier to use on his "away trips".
Snake Pliskin1
04-15-16, 09:43
Is today the day for the big meeting?!
I can't wait!! LOL.
Is today the day for the big meeting?!
I can't wait!! LOL.Dude, you really are a fucked up sort aren't you?
We all know you'll never show. Then you'll spout off about some other ridicules shit. At least this keeps you from Popping off about 'the LOVE CON".
Can't wait to hear your excuse.
PK.
Snake Pliskin1
04-15-16, 12:32
Like I said earlier dude let me know when and where, and I will show up to video this. It truly is going to be hysterical. And I cannot wait to read your post, after the meeting, it should be really entertaining.
Dude, you really are a fucked up sort aren't you?
We all know you'll never show. Then you'll spout off about some other ridicules shit. At least this keeps you from Popping off about 'the LOVE CON".
Can't wait to hear your excuse.
PK.
Member #5729
04-15-16, 15:38
I'm sure Loki has posted and it's waiting to be put up. We met. I actually showed! We talked for about 40 minutes. Cool guy. There was clearly a case of misidentification. He will confirm that I am just myself and not an alter ego of anybody else. He will also confirm I was truthful about my stats, being younger, etc. And that I am just being an active member of the community. Albeit sometimes a little overzealous.
Hopefully this can all be put in the past and we can move forward enjoying a similar hobby. He actually had really good advice for someone new to the fold.
Let me first begin by apologizing to EGrayUpstate. He is NOT frankytreelewis. He is a completely different guy.
Met him in person and he's just a regular guy like the rest of us (pliskin excluded).
I'm sorry he got dragged into this drama and I hope it hasn't caused undo stress or annoyance to anyone involved (treelewis excluded).
He's a stand up guy who has more sack than most. Tendered an appointment for a meet and 24 hrs later, sure enough, shows up as planned, cool as a cucumber.
My hat is off to you sir. :).
After our little coffee clatch, I went and spoke with my sources regarding the bad I'd. Turns out our friend frankytreepliskin used a fake email (fucking surprise, right?) and referenced EGrayUpstates handle to pass screening. That's fucked up!
THATS THE SHIT THAT GETS PEOPLE IN TROUBLE! That's the kind of dude SnakeytreePliskin is. Perfectly innocent new member drawn in to drama for his own sad purpose. So he could pass screening to play-he posed as another handle. Now look at the fallout.
The good news is I got to have coffee and talk shop with a new member who is down with the hobby and just wants to participate like a normal guy and stay clear of the drama. Good on ya mate! ;).
Bad news is frankytreepliskin is till a major asshole, but what else is new right?
Peace.
PK.
Snake Pliskin1
04-15-16, 17:44
You just don't give up!
Ask the email Addy! You're already wrong so be wrong more!
Never ever did I use his name at all. Show the email! Your source sucks and can't!
But, I knew you wouldn't take 100% accountability. Let go dude!
Until you show the email, you're finished with your crusade.
Let me first begin by apologizing to EGrayUpstate. He is NOT frankytreelewis. He is a completely different guy.
Met him in person and he's just a regular guy like the rest of us (pliskin excluded).
I'm sorry he got dragged into this drama and I hope it hasn't caused undo stress or annoyance to anyone involved (treelewis excluded).
He's a stand up guy who has more sack than most. Tendered an appointment for a meet and 24 hrs later, sure enough, shows up as planned, cool as a cucumber.
My hat is off to you sir. :).
After our little coffee clatch, I went and spoke with my sources regarding the bad I'd. Turns out our friend frankytreepliskin used a fake email (fucking surprise, right?) and referenced EGrayUpstates handle to pass screening. That's fucked up!
THATS THE SHIT THAT GETS PEOPLE IN TROUBLE! That's the kind of dude SnakeytreePliskin is. Perfectly innocent new member drawn in to drama for his own sad purpose. So he could pass screening to play-he posed as another handle. Now look at the fallout.
The good news is I got to have coffee and talk shop with a new member who is down with the hobby and just wants to participate like a normal guy and stay clear of the drama. Good on ya mate! ;).
Bad news is frankytreepliskin is till a major asshole, but what else is new right?
Peace.
PK.
You just don't give up!
Ask the email Addy! You're already wrong so be wrong more!
Never ever did I use his name at all. Show the email! Your source sucks and can't!
But, I knew you wouldn't take 100% accountability. Let go dude!
Until you show the email, you're finished with your crusade.Oh we'll see about that.
The ridicules shit from you never stops does it? The shill handles, the fake reports, now shit like this? Involving innocent bystanders in your fucking sideshow act with no remorse or feeling of consequence?
In the words of Joseph N Welch " You've done enough. Have you no sense of decency sir, at long last? Have you left no sense decency?
I guess the answer for you is 'no'. You have no sense of decency, at all.
One day you'll pay a price for your asshole behavior. I hope I'm a fly on the wall when you do, cause I'm going to piss on your remains. Count on it Bozo.
PK.
Snake Pliskin1
04-15-16, 21:54
Let it go, dude! You were wrong and you know it, move on.
Oh we'll see about that.
The ridicules shit from you never stops does it? The shill handles, the fake reports, now shit like this? Involving innocent bystanders in your fucking sideshow act with no remorse or feeling of consequence?
In the words of Joseph N Welch " You've done enough. Have you no sense of decency sir, at long last? Have you left no sense decency?
I guess the answer for you is 'no'. You have no sense of decency, at all.
One day you'll pay a price for your asshole behavior. I hope I'm a fly on the wall when you do, cause I'm going to piss on your remains. Count on it Bozo.
PK.
Let it go, dude! You were wrong and you know it, move on."Arguing with idiots is like playing chess with pigeons. No matter how good you are the pigeon is still going to knock over all the pieces, shit on the board, and then strut around like he won anyway. ".
Keep strutting around pigeon.
PK.
Snake Pliskin1
04-16-16, 20:51
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Greetings Gentlemen,
With all due respect, I would very much appreciate it if you would not use my forum to publicly solicit or exchange information on how to find and/or use my competitor's website(s).
Thanks,
Jackson
Frank you are starting to piss me off. I'm about to lay some heavy restrictions on this user name.
A2
Snake Pliskin1
04-16-16, 20:53
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Greetings Gentlemen,
With all due respect, I would very much appreciate it if you would not use my forum to publicly solicit or exchange information on how to find and/or use my competitor's website(s).
Thanks,
Jackson
Ha! She's a fat pig, right Big Bird?
LOL are you he pimp now? Or did you fail at that too?
http://eccie.net/showthread.php?t=1685251
Nc comment Plow King! You homo! You wouldn't know what a tan line is, dick!
http://eccie.net/showthread.php?p=1058033003#post1058033003.There really are no words.
PK.
Really?
Hhmmm.
I'm sure it has nothing to do with his wallet either. LOL.No it doesn't. He pops over to see me w\o paying. I like him. Not his walket. Bc hebis sooo cute.
Snake Pliskin1
04-19-16, 20:58
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Snake Pliskin1
04-19-16, 22:26
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Hey Franko-Snake-pigeon!
PK.
Snake Pliskin1
04-20-16, 11:39
You may have just given me an idea for my next handle!! Thanks!!
Hey Franko-Snake-pigeon!
PK.
Snake Pliskin1
04-20-16, 16:15
Was pretty English to me.
Just wondering when the others who post links from the other site will get slapped as well?
Or is it a selective process?
Rdavis1972
04-20-16, 21:46
Was pretty English to me.
Just wondering when the others who post links from the other site will get slapped as well?
Or is it a selective process?You focus all of your energy on deliberately douching up the place, then cry foul when the admin gets tired of your shit? You're a real piece of. . . Work.
Was pretty English to me.
Just wondering when the others who post links from the other site will get slapped as well?
Or is it a selective process?BLAH BLAH BLAH.
Of COURSE it's selective dickhead.
PK.
Snake Pliskin1
04-21-16, 20:20
Oh. But go delete your own posts before they catch you.
LOL.
BLAH BLAH BLAH.
Of COURSE it's selective dickhead.
PK.
Snake Pliskin1
04-21-16, 20:50
Oh, I see. Fuck face!
BLAH BLAH BLAH.
Of COURSE it's selective dickhead.
PK.
Oh. But go delete your own posts before they catch you.
LOL.Catch? You are so fucking stupid it's pathetic. The owners of the site know what's going down and allow a great deal of leeway in many things. YOU, of all people, should know that better than most.
There is little harm in referencing information that is USEFUL from around the web, on occasion. Especially if it counters some ridicules bullshit from a troll like you.
But when some dildo-pigeon like YOU, posts link after fucking link JUST to stir shit up, well apparently that crosses the line. You're just to fucking stupid to understand.
I'll type s-l-o-w so you might let it sink in. IT. IS. THEIR. SITE! THEY. CAN. DO. WHATEVER. THEY. WANT!
Why you so dumb? Why Howdie? Why?
PK.
Snake Pliskin1
04-22-16, 14:03
The time has come for me to retire my handle on this site. Before anyone says it, no, I don't have any others and will not be back. Nor do I have any others on the other site.
Take it easy all, be safe and remember, I love Plow King, Big Bird and Creaper all the same, still.
Bye.
No, you may not retire the name. This is what you do, you come, you stir up a bunch of shit then you make a new name, I'm keeping all this info under this name.
Like before, if you don't want to play then don't log in but this shit isn't going anywhere and I have notated the account so the secretary doesn't do it either.
A2
The time has come for me to retire my handle on this site. Before anyone says it, no, I don't have any others and will not be back. Nor do I have any others on the other site.
Take it easy all, be safe and remember, I love Plow King, Big Bird and Creaper all the same, still.
Bye.
No, you may not retire the name. This is what you do, you come, you stir up a bunch of shit then you make a new name, I'm keeping all this info under this name.
Like before, if you don't want to play then don't log in but this shit isn't going anywhere and I have notated the account so the secretary doesn't do it either.
A2Snake. Will I miss you retiring or never logging on this (or any other site) ?? HELL NO!! I WISH this was the truth. But we all know (including A2 and his " secretary ") that you are obsessed with the sites and can or will stop. And I'm sure that Loki & Reaper will miss you as much as you will miss the three of us!
Snake Pliskin1
04-22-16, 22:15
Then I'll go to my room and hold my breath until you do it you big meany
The time has come for me to retire my handle on this site. Before anyone says it, no, I don't have any others and will not be back. Nor do I have any others on the other site.
Take it easy all, be safe and remember, I love Plow King, Big Bird and Creaper all the same, still.
Bye.
No, you may not retire the name. This is what you do, you come, you stir up a bunch of shit then you make a new name, I'm keeping all this info under this name.
Like before, if you don't want to play then don't log in but this shit isn't going anywhere and I have notated the account so the secretary doesn't do it either.
A2
Snake Pliskin1
04-22-16, 22:16
And you, you fucking piece of shit old sick fuck, have fun pimping or should I say, in your pimping endeavors?
Then I'll go to my room and hold my breath until you do it you big meanyDo that, but tie a plastic bag around your head, so you get it right.
PK.
Do that, but tie a plastic bag around your head, so you get it right.
PK.Please don't stop, it's more entertaining than most posts.
And you, you fucking piece of shit old sick fuck, have fun pimping or should I say, in your pimping endeavors?
Thank you for your " going away " best wishes to me . At least you had ONE word correct - I AM OLD !
the time has come for me to retire my handle on this site. Before anyone says it, no, i don't have any others and will not be back. Nor do i have any others on the other site.
Take it easy all, be safe and remember, i love plow king, big bird and creaper all the same, still.
Bye.
boooo hoooo hoooo
pk
I think I hear crickets-so quiet now!!
I think I hear crickets-so quiet now!!Please don't tell me that you miss him and his constant bullshit? LOL.
Please don't tell me that you miss him and his constant bullshit? LOL.No no, more like the calm after a thunderstorm!
I think I hear crickets-so quiet now!!So nice and peaceful, isn't it? ;).
Peace.
PK.
The time has come for me to retire my handle on this site. Before anyone says it, no, I don't have any others and will not be back. Nor do I have any others on the other site.
Take it easy all, be safe and remember, I love Plow King, Big Bird and Creaper all the same, still.
Bye.
]I win the UNDER!! Not even two weeks!
Too Bad! I was enjoying the peace and quiet.
At least I won the pool;).
I win the UNDER!! Not even two weeks!
Too Bad! I was enjoying the peace and quiet.
At least I won the pool;).We ALL missed you so very, very, very much!
What's up with that?As per the FAQ-.
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Peace.
PK.
Hi all long time no post. So just got back from overseas and was looking for some Asian time. Am I the only one that feels a little worried when one post with a 518 area code with a prefix from Rensselaer?
As per the FAQ-.
Sers Awaiting Email Activation are newly registered members who have not yet activated their membership by responding to the Activation Email. Users Awaiting Email Activation may search and read the Forum. However, they cannot post reports, view or upload photographs, or use the private message system. Users Awaiting Email Activation are automatically promoted to Regular Member upon activating their membership by responding to the Activation Email.
Regular Members may post reports, view and upload photographs, and use the private message system. However, Regular Member's reports are held briefly until they are reviewed by a Forum Moderator.
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The purpose of this entire hierarchy is to exercise some controls over new members with the specific intent of stopping serial spammers and reducing garbage posts. ".
Peace.
PK.But before he was silent for a couple days he was a reg member, I thought that was to reduce garbage posts.
But before he was silent for a couple days he was a reg member, I thought that was to reduce garbage posts.A member can still have senior status and be on moderation.
PK.
A member can still have senior status and be on moderation.
PK.A little common sense and being an adult, lessons the need to be monitored.
We ALL missed you so very, very, very much!If you check the recent BP reports, I have a sneaky feeling Snake already has his new handle and is talking to himself promoting his favorite already. I could be wrong but as we all know he's got a pattern of doing this.
If you check the recent BP reports, I have a sneaky feeling Snake already has his new handle and is talking to himself promoting his favorite already. I could be wrong but as we all know he's got a pattern of doing this.Of cours. Would you expect anything else?
WarrenAJeffers
05-16-16, 17:25
Was Kira starting shit again? LOL.
Snake Pliskin1
05-16-16, 18:26
Possibly not, she never does. Ahahaha.
Was Kira starting shit again? LOL.
FloydMay22
05-16-16, 20:01
Kira has some competition. , but Summer doesn't go the distance like Kira. Especially with the GF experience and roaming. Maybe Summer will up her game.
Was Kira starting shit again? LOL.
Kira has some competition. , but Summer doesn't go the distance like Kira. Especially with the GF experience and roaming. Maybe Summer will up her game.Now THAT could be the start of " I'm better than you at what I do" kinda thing. Hmmmm, I'm going to sit back and see how this goes LOL, if anywhere!
WarrenAJeffers
05-16-16, 23:13
Now THAT could be the start of " I'm better than you at what I do" kinda thing. Hmmmm, I'm going to sit back and see how this goes LOL, if anywhere!I'd love to know what Kira's original statement was. The one that got taken down.
I'd love to know what Kira's original statement was. The one that got taken down.PM her here or somewhere else and ask. I bet that she would share.
Kira has some competition. , but Summer doesn't go the distance like Kira. Especially with the GF experience and roaming. Maybe Summer will up her game.Competition. HA! You only assume that bc you have not gotten ALL of my services.
Imma naughty little devil who loves to give and receive orgasms.
Competition. HA! You only assume that bc you have not gotten ALL of my services.
Imma naughty little devil who loves to give and receive orgasms.Kira honey, Floyd gave you a compliment, not the other way around.
FloydMay22
05-17-16, 21:00
Kira honey, Floyd gave you a compliment, not the other way around.Exactly. Kira has the upperhand. And yes Kira, I had all your services.
Member #5143
05-18-16, 10:52
I totally agree. Kiera is a great provider. And lucky for many of you she offers Escort services which I do not. Nor will I fancy any of you with a mud slinging contest. We are grown. Different strokes for different folks. Lucky you that Albany has a wide variety of services and lovely women for you to all enjoy. We are all on the same team and should act as such. This is just as riskey for us as it is for you. Lets move past the drama and enjoy each other as we do. Be safe. And have a great day!
Kira definitely has nothing to worry about in the customer service department, I find her to be incredibly sexy and engaging and she has a way of making you feel like you're with a friend you've known forever..
SnoBallGuy
05-18-16, 13:30
I totally agree. Kiera is a great provider. And lucky for many of you she offers Escort services which I do not. Nor will I fancy any of you with a mud slinging contest. We are grown. Different strokes for different folks. Lucky you that Albany has a wide variety of services and lovely women for you to all enjoy. We are all on the same team and should act as such. This is just as riskey for us as it is for you. Lets move past the drama and enjoy each other as we do. Be safe. And have a great day!
.PR and Floyd you guess are a couple of dopes if you do not understand that different girls offer different services I am sure both Kira and Summer offer great services and are great values, enjoy them both for what they offer or just stay home and do it yourself.
I totally agree. Kiera is a great provider. And lucky for many of you she offers Escort services which I do not. Nor will I fancy any of you with a mud slinging contest. We are grown. Different strokes for different folks. Lucky you that Albany has a wide variety of services and lovely women for you to all enjoy. We are all on the same team and should act as such. This is just as riskey for us as it is for you. Lets move past the drama and enjoy each other as we do. Be safe. And have a great day!
.I didn't see any mud slinging or drama. Just a couple opinions. Who's starting the drama?
PR and Floyd you guess are a couple of dopes if you do not understand that different girls offer different services I am sure both Kira and Summer offer great services and are great values, enjoy them both for what they offer or just stay home and do it yourself.I love when guys get online and decide they're going to tough talk but I especially love it when they're wrong to do so, my comment was my opinion on Kira and the fact that DESPITE what is written here she will continue to do well due to the fact that she treats her clients well. It was NOT a dig at summer of anyone else, I have actually seen summer and found her to also be wonderful, in her own way. All great providers have their own talents and ways which make them great and also make them different which of course is the point, no need to pick one or the other have them both! I do and it's great! So mr snow ball guy I would hope this clears up any misunderstanding which led you to make the assumption you did and as the wise mr Jackson once said " when you make an assumption you make an ASS of you and UMPTION!" 😜.
I totally agree. Kiera is a great provider. And lucky for many of you she offers Escort services which I do not. Nor will I fancy any of you with a mud slinging contest. We are grown. Different strokes for different folks. Lucky you that Albany has a wide variety of services and lovely women for you to all enjoy. We are all on the same team and should act as such.
This is just as riskey for us as it is for you. Lets move past the drama and enjoy each other as we do. Be safe. And have a great day!
.** Listen Folks, I have seen Kira Dozens of Times and now Summer Dozens of times, and they are BOTH AWESOME at what they do!!
They offer 2 totally different things though, and it has been posted and reviewed here dozens of times. If you want Escort Services for $65 / HH, your going to have to go grab a Streetwalker!
Summer is not going to do that, why you ask, because as she has said 100 times, she doesn't offer Escort Services, she offers an AWESOME Body Rub at a Damn Affordable Price!!
As an Educated Consumer you have to know what your walking into. As far as Kira, she is an AMAZING GFE Provider, but you can't see her for less than $120 / HH.
But what she offers is Totally Different because she offers the Full GFE / Escort Service as well as a Body Rub if needed!! She is Also AMAZING as what she does!
You wouldn't be pissed if you went and saw Kira and she didn't give you a tattoo, right? RIGHT, because she doesn't advertise that she gives tattoo's. Well why are their guys pissed Summer won't Blow them when all she advertises is a Body Rub?
We are all adults here and are well out of high school, lets leave the Drama well behind us and start sharing all opf our Amazing Experiences without the potshots.
Happy and Safe Mongering!!
NiceGuy69.
I'm glad that there is another provider in the area with skills. It is a wonderful thing that I have some where to send my body rub clients if I can't accommodate an appt. I hope you stay around for a long time.
As for my prior comment to a make member that had nothing to do w you or your services. I don't have time for any drama nor will I entertain it.
I'm back in albany and I look forward to meeting you sometime.
As well as, I look forward to seeing the many men of USA.
This is an awesome community!!
Can't we all just get ALONG!
Forget the drama and just have a GOOD TIME people!!
** Listen Folks, I have seen Kira Dozens of Times and now Summer Dozens of times, and they are BOTH AWESOME at what they do!!
They offer 2 totally different things though, and it has been posted and reviewed here dozens of times. If you want Escort Services for $65 / HH, your going to have to go grab a Streetwalker!
Summer is not going to do that, why you ask, because as she has said 100 times, she doesn't offer Escort Services, she offers an AWESOME Body Rub at a Damn Affordable Price!!
As an Educated Consumer you have to know what your walking into. As far as Kira, she is an AMAZING GFE Provider, but you can't see her for less than $120 / HH.
But what she offers is Totally Different because she offers the Full GFE / Escort Service as well as a Body Rub if needed!! She is Also AMAZING as what she does!
You wouldn't be pissed if you went and saw Kira and she didn't give you a tattoo, right? RIGHT, because she doesn't advertise that she gives tattoo's. Well why are their guys pissed Summer won't Blow them when all she advertises is a Body Rub?
We are all adults here and are well out of high school, lets leave the Drama well behind us and start sharing all opf our Amazing Experiences without the potshots.
Happy and Safe Mongering!!
NiceGuy69.Thank you doll for the post about us both. I also here she is amazing!!
Member #5143
05-26-16, 20:05
Yes I agree. As I have also sent several people to you. Glad to hear there are no hard feelings and there shouldn't be. I've been in this business for 20 plus years way before there were any AMP in this area. And I would never talk shot about a good provider. It's the ones like the grinch and these nasty bites having little black men jumping out from closets and under beds we should be warning people about. As long as we are working toward the same goal and sounds like we are then we should be on the same page together. Ha! Who knows maybe we could really blow some minds and hook up. Together we maybe the hottest thing in Albany. LOL. If time permits. Anyhow there isn't anyone looking out for us except us. So would be nice to work together toward the same goal and try to keep our men safe and happy. Pm me if you have time to chat. And honestly sorry to say but some of you guys are worse than women when it come to being catty. LOL. Some of you love the drama. Looks like you won't be getting any here. Sorry. Have a great week. Glad you had a safe trip home. (I'm from Brooklyn BTW be safe.
I'm glad that there is another provider in the area with skills. It is a wonderful thing that I have some where to send my body rub clients if I can't accommodate an appt. I hope you stay around for a long time.
As for my prior comment to a make member that had nothing to do w you or your services. I don't have time for any drama nor will I entertain it.
I'm back in albany and I look forward to meeting you sometime.
As well as, I look forward to seeing the many men of USA.
This is an awesome community!!
Can't we all just get ALONG!
Forget the drama and just have a GOOD TIME people!!
Yes I agree. As I have also sent several people to you. Glad to hear there are no hard feelings and there shouldn't be. I've been in this business for 20 plus years way before there were any AMP in this area. And I would never talk shot about a good provider. It's the ones like the grinch and these nasty bites having little black men jumping out from closets and under beds we should be warning people about. As long as we are working toward the same goal and sounds like we are then we should be on the same page together. Ha! Who knows maybe we could really blow some minds and hook up. Together we maybe the hottest thing in Albany. LOL. If time permits. Anyhow there isn't anyone looking out for us except us. So would be nice to work together toward the same goal and try to keep our men safe and happy. Pm me if you have time to chat. And honestly sorry to say but some of you guys are worse than women when it come to being catty. LOL. Some of you love the drama. Looks like you won't be getting any here. Sorry. Have a great week. Glad you had a safe trip home. (I'm from Brooklyn BTW be safe.I totally agree with you. And now I see why I'm from Staten Island. It explains why we're both so similar. I would love to get together and do doubles with you. I'll definitely send you a pm There was a couple of things I wanted to talk to you about anyway. Have fun girl.
P.S. I must say I found some really really amazing guys in the Albany area / Upstate area.
Stay safe, stay, sweet, stay sexy!
Exactly. Kira has the upperhand. And yes Kira, I had all your services.You should cum remind me 😉128521; and show me. 💋128139; I would love have some fun. I mostly do body rubs. Only some special guys and gals can see the kinkier side of Kira!
I tried to multi quote both your statement but for some reason was unable to. This statement is in reference to post from both of you. I hope you understand and which ones are referencing.
Oh no please don't take it as insult to any one or in a negative way. Was just joking around w him. I like to entice, tease and draw in my desserts. I'm a hungry girl who needs her oral filling of creamy goodness. Was nothing to do w and LASSY on here. I love the ladies of USA, I would love to show Them my appreciation of how much they mean to this community. Hint hint!
What would be easier? Loki to post a link or someone to scroll through endless pages to find a review that you didn't know loki even posted? Tard.Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah,!
I wasn't aware anyone could actually be so dense as you. I was just talking to your Mom the other day and she agreed with me. BTW let her know I'll be taking this week off, so I guess she'll just have to get the $$ from you.
PK.
It's funny that you bash people for doing the exact thing you do. Hey minions WTF is your obsession with loki. You guys must take turns lickin his ass.You're just pissed because nobody likes you. Don't forget to tell Mama about the $$.
PK.
Rdavis1972
06-14-16, 19:41
Have you graduated from the 8th grade yet? Illiteracy live and well in America.Yeah, and so is douche-baggery. How come every time you touch a keyboard it's to be a complete dick to somebody?
I PMed Slidder Z about contact information for Torrie: He sent back a request for a picture. I felt like I was on Craig's List, being spammed. I thought we were here to share information and experiences. Good and bad, not collect pictures. I am from Amsterdam, and pickings are slim here, so I thought I would give it a go. - Dave.
Member #5729
06-16-16, 12:10
I PMed Slidder Z about contact information for Torrie: He sent back a request for a picture. I felt like I was on Craig's List, being spammed. I thought we were here to share information and experiences. Good and bad, not collect pictures. I am from Amsterdam, and pickings are slim here, so I thought I would give it a go. - Dave.A picture of you? The fuck.
Thompson7675
06-16-16, 13:21
I too got the same request. I gave him my number to give to her and told hi I'll send a pic once I voice verify. The silence is deafening. I'm in Amsterdam some times and it would be nice to have a fun stop on the trip.
I also got the same request for a pic and my bullsgitvradar was already pinging but the pic request just made it clearer I should go with my gut and stay away.
Floyd, he's probably using that fucked up code. Listen, I just don't get this code!! Why do some of the members here do this?? If a girl charges $180 dollars for a massage-lets just say it's 180!! This code $ . 80 confuses a lot of people and quite frankly it pisses me off!!
Maybe I should have posted this in Rants and Raves.I couldn't agree with you more, Sam, Son of Schenectady. I've complained about this many times and the silence is deafening. No one's ever managed to explain to me why this ridiculous code is a good idea.
I couldn't agree with you more, Sam, Son of Schenectady. I've complained about this many times and the silence is deafening. No one's ever managed to explain to me why this ridiculous code is a good idea.I agree!
From now on I'll post all info in a normal 150 or $150 format. Never understood it either. I think it was an old pre-2004 idea that you couldn't get in trouble for talking about sex and money that way.
Anyway, the new 2016 method is way easier to understand;).
Peace.
PK.
I agree!
From now on I'll post all info in a normal 150 or $150 format. Never understood it either. I think it was an old pre-2004 idea that you couldn't get in trouble for talking about sex and money that way.
Anyway, the new 2016 method is way easier to understand;).
Peace.
PK.If Loki says it's so. It's fucking so!!
If Loki says it's so. It's fucking so!!Well if that's the case then " y'all' need to send me $5000 ".
Please send it to:
Loki-Pk.
6969 Fucktard Lane.
Walla Walla, Washington 99362.
Just make the check out to CASH;).
Peace.
PK.
I agree!
From now on I'll post all info in a normal 150 or $150 format. Never understood it either. I think it was an old pre-2004 idea that you couldn't get in trouble for talking about sex and money that way.
Anyway, the new 2016 method is way easier to understand;).
Peace.
PK.Simply, what the gals sometimes use in their adds or on phone.
Roses cost about a dollar each in bulk.
Just sat 150 roses for HH. , or 200 roses for Hr.
Simply, what the gals sometimes use in their adds or on phone.
Roses cost about a dollar each in bulk.
Just sat 150 roses for HH. , or 200 roses for Hr.That's kind of my point. Why?
What makes anyone think it is any less incriminating?
Just asking.
Peace.
PK.
That's kind of my point. Why?
What makes anyone think it is any less incriminating?
Just asking.
Peace.
PK.A rose is not a dollar, a $1. 50 is not much "consideration" in legal terms, vs. $150.
Ask an attorney, like EGrayUpstate. He or other attys may have some insite with this topic.
Member #5729
06-23-16, 13:54
The best response I can give: http://redlightlegal.org/no-such-thing-as-safe-escort-ad/.
Tl; dr it makes no difference what you say. Drug dealers do the same thing with code words, it doesn't work. Maybe, maybe, when they were first used it confounded some people enough but it's been decades of the same terms. Once a term is established its known meaning is just that, known. There is literally nothing you can say that makes anything we all do legal or even confusing enough to be questionably legal. The only reason our whole hobby works is because it would be too expensive and time consuming to target all of us individually. Hunting two consenting adults privately behind closed doors is pretty hard to do, that's why they just set up stings every few years when some politician pushes it.
A rose is not a dollar, a $1. 50 is not much "consideration" in legal terms, vs. $150.
Ask an attorney, like EGrayUpstate. He or other attys may have some insite with this topic.Frankly, ANY consideration for sex, dollar or a doughnut, is in violation of the law. Give her one or one hundred and you have paid for sex.
I guess what is important in this conversation is 1.5 or. 5 can be confusing to the uninitiated.... And apparently to seasoned members as well.
So if you're more comfortable saying 150 'roses' then by all means, roses works. But saying .5'roses' can be confusing.
Maybe we can all agree to move forward without the decimal delineation?
As our esteemed colleague EGrayUpstate has shown, that silly code isn't fooling anyone (thank you counselor;)).
Peace.
PK.
Frankly, ANY consideration for sex, dollar or a doughnut, is in violation of the law. Give her one or one hundred and you have paid for sex.
I guess what is important in this conversation is 1.5 or. 5 can be confusing to the uninitiated.... And apparently to seasoned members as well.
So if you're more comfortable saying 150 'roses' then by all means, roses works. But saying .5'roses' can be confusing.
Maybe we can all agree to move forward without the decimal delineation?
As our esteemed colleague EGrayUpstate has shown, that silly code isn't fooling anyone (thank you counselor;)).
Peace.
PK.You mean I can't use Krispie Kremes anymore?
Frankly, ANY consideration for sex, dollar or a doughnut, is in violation of the law. Give her one or one hundred and you have paid for sex.
I guess what is important in this conversation is 1.5 or. 5 can be confusing to the uninitiated.... And apparently to seasoned members as well.
So if you're more comfortable saying 150 'roses' then by all means, roses works. But saying .5'roses' can be confusing.
Maybe we can all agree to move forward without the decimal delineation?
As our esteemed colleague EGrayUpstate has shown, that silly code isn't fooling anyone (thank you counselor;)).
Peace.
PK.Yeah. Is is confusing in the beginning, esp. When some get it wrong!
And still causes confusion if they still get it wrong, and some do. Agreed.
You mean I can't use Krispie Kremes anymore?Quail uses blueberry muffins!
;)
LOL.
PEACE.
PK.
Does anyone use this app? Have you used it before inside the hobby? How about out side? How much of a hassle is it to set up? Does it need to be linked to a checking account? - Thanks in advance. Dave.
Does anyone use this app? Have you used it before inside the hobby? How about out side? How much of a hassle is it to set up? Does it need to be linked to a checking account? - Thanks in advance. Dave.Not help with whether venmo is legit or useful or whatever. My experience has always been CASH IS KING! Can not be traced back to you. Cash for provider, motel if needed even for any needed supplies. Just my take but it has served me well. Hammer.
Does anyone use this app? Have you used it before inside the hobby? How about out side? How much of a hassle is it to set up? Does it need to be linked to a checking account? - Thanks in advance. Dave.http://www.nextadvisor.com/blog/2016/01/26/venmo-safe-to-use/
Seems to have great reviews. The payments are processed by pay pal. Thats good!! Paypal is a trusted source.
I have tried to set up credit cards several times for client convenience, never worked out well. Was ok.
Hammer has a valid point on CASH IS KING tho, its most accessible and no one can play games. Hope this helped.
A husband comes home to find his wife with her suitcases packed in the living room. "Where the hell do you think you're going?" he says. "I'm going to Las Vegas. You can earn $400 for a blow job there, and I figured that I might as well earn money for what I do to you free. " The husband thinks for a moment, goes upstairs, and comes back down, with his suitcase packed as well. "Where do you think you going?" the wife asks. "I'm coming with you. I want to see how you survive on $800 a year!
Rdavis1972
09-10-16, 16:02
Perhaps this is a well known fact and only news to me, but just in case I figured I'd share. I visited with one of our favorite ladies yesterday. A short time ago I heard a notification pop up on my cell phone. It was Google Maps asking me to give details about the hotel I visited her at. I selected the option that said "I wasn't there" and it responded that it'd "remove it from my TIMELINE"! I dug a little deeper and found that by default Google Maps keeps a very detailed accounting of your travels and maintains a history. This could be catastrophic if my wife should ever discover this. I'd imagine there are many others here in the same boat.
To check this out for yourself, open Google Maps, select the menu, then select "Your Timeline". You can delete your history and also turn off the history.
Perhaps this is a well known fact and only news to me, but just in case I figured I'd share. I visited with one of our favorite ladies yesterday. A short time ago I heard a notification pop up on my cell phone. It was Google Maps asking me to give details about the hotel I visited her at. I selected the option that said "I wasn't there" and it responded that it'd "remove it from my TIMELINE"! I dug a little deeper and found that by default Google Maps keeps a very detailed accounting of your travels and maintains a history. This could be catastrophic if my wife should ever discover this. I'd imagine there are many others here in the same boat.
To check this out for yourself, open Google Maps, select the menu, then select "Your Timeline". You can delete your history and also turn off the history.I don't use Google maps but this is great that you found this out. What a clusterfuck this could be for the hobby.
I noticed some of the fuys posted they had not received a call back from a few providers.
I can not speak for all but I can say that it can be several reasons to not returning calls.
1) no vmail or txt stating how long to call you back by or if they can call you back at all. Ex: hey this is eric, you can call me till 4 pm.
2) by the time they see your missed call its been 2-3 hours and they don't think it would be convenient to your lifestyle to call back so much later.
3) you have been blacklisted on one or a number of sites and your call / number doesn't even come up on provider's phone log.
4) they don't have time between appts to return every call or txt or email or pm they have recieved.
5) phone issues.
6) not avail / working the day you call.
7) family emergency.
8) they don't take calls or set appts thru app numbers or computer generated numbers and you are calling via app or computer generated phone number. We can tell when its app or comp number. It comes up different.
8) had unexpected lady issues.
That's just a few off the top of my head in 2 minutes.
I just wanted to provide a little insight to the other side of a coin that you gentlemen may not think of or be able to see.
Hope that helps some.
Don't stand in front of the mirror! - Us guys do check these pictures closely When we can't be doing our hobby, we are dreaming about our next date. - Is this any of our members? - LOL All three people are very photogenic!
Check out " why have one when you could have two" BP if link does not work.
http://albany.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/y-have-1-when-u-can-have-two/22405757
WarrenAJeffers
09-17-16, 08:24
Don't stand in front of the mirror! - Us guys do check these pictures closely When we can't be doing our hobby, we are dreaming about our next date. - Is this any of our members? - LOL All three people are very photogenic!
Check out " why have one when you could have two" BP if link does not work.
http://albany.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/y-have-1-when-u-can-have-two/22405757Funny. I just assumed the guy was Loki!
Funny. I just assumed the guy was Loki!Har Har Hardy Har Har!!
PK.
Donny Draper
11-15-16, 19:01
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Hows this for backing off? Guys that tell guys not to post are committing the second deadly sin of the forum. Guys that tell me to back off about it and then go into long winded bullshit explanations about it are gone. I've heard them all, the cops use the forum, they don't or after 17 years there would have been at least one post admitted into evidence and right now we are like 2,000,000 without a one showing up.
In this case "the owners of the AMP's read the forum and fire the chicks" ok, do the chicks not need to pay their bills anymore? Are there no other AMP's? The market solves that problem.
It's really simple, if you don't want to post then don't, you don't have to but don't tell people not to fucking post. This is not Silk Road and you guys are not Tony fucking Montana.
A2
Rdavis1972
11-19-16, 15:55
You can't make this shit up! LOL.
http://news10.com/2016/11/18/ohio-woman-accused-of-trying-to-sell-sex-for-nachos/
BEAVER TOWNSHIP, OH (WKBN) – A man and suspected prostitute were arrested in Beaver, Ohio during a sting involving an undercover officer.
Beaver Police said the officer texted a woman, 36-year-old Crystal * who had an advertisement for sex services on Youngstown's Backpage website. Police said Hotlosz agreed to meet the officer at Los Gallos for a sex act at a price of $50 and some nachos.
you can't make this shit up! Lol.
http://news10.com/2016/11/18/ohio-woman-accused-of-trying-to-sell-sex-for-nachos/
beaver township, oh (wkbn) a man and suspected prostitute were arrested in beaver, ohio during a sting involving an undercover officer.
Beaver police said the officer texted a woman, 36-year-old crystal * who had an advertisement for sex services on youngstown's backpage website. Police said hotlosz agreed to meet the officer at los gallos for a sex act at a price of $50 and some nachos.beaver. Rofl.
Whats the difderence between erotic and kinky?
Erotic you use a feather, kinky you use the whole chicken!!
ROTFLMAO!!
Rdavis1972
01-08-17, 11:04
I'm reading the comments in this thread about the Gangbangs and all the criticisms and condemnations thrown about the providers that are doing the Gangbangs. Similar threads about providers that allow bareback or cream pies in individual one on one dates are on other sites. Here's my take on the issue. Guys - if you want to partake in the Gangbangs, NO ONE is forcing you to do bareback or cream pies! NO ONE is physically grabbing your cock and putting it in any hole bareback. It's YOUR decision ONLY! You want to put on a condom and fuck away, go for it. Let's NOT condemn the women as the only ones being at fault here. As for individual one on one sessions between you and the provider, that's between the two of you. Many men DO bareback but choose NOT to mention it in their review. Let's not kid ourselves. Maybe because the provider doesn't want everyone to know so that may either get her more clients that will expect it for themselves. OR as some members have stated here, that fact of bareback will change their mind and won't see that provider now. And don't forget that some other providers also may choose to reject and appointment with a client because the client may do bareback at Gangbangs or be stupid enough to write a review saying that he did bareback.
All I'm expressing here is that we ALL have a choice to have safe sex. Let's be fucking fair here.I don't agree with bashing people for their personal choices, though I also don't think anybody was doing that here. I saw a couple guys suggesting they themselves wouldn't want to see a provider again because they've learned she offers bareback. They didn't knock her, or condemn her I any way that I saw.
Also, to take the stance that a provider is only risking her own health by doing bareback because you have the choice of covering up and protecting yourself is a bunch of BS. For me it's about minimizing risk. We all know the risks involved in the hobby, if you don't bad on you. That being said a provider that offers bareback increases her risk. Whether you choose to cover up with that provider or not, your risk is increased as well. I've had plenty of covers break in my day. Fortunately it hasn't happened with a provider YET, but it certainly could. When it does, now her risky choices affect me. As I've said, I get that it's part of the game, but that's why some guys, myself included may choose to avoid a provider that they KNOW is doing this. Minimizing risk. Other girls MAY also be doing this, this girl IS doing it.
Let's not be so quick to bash members who choose to protect themselves either. If they're not disrespecting the girls in the process, no harm, no foul.
Has anyone read anything lately about the on going battle surrounding Back Page? The mongers I know are not able to speak out about it because of our significant others. Where are all the freedom of the press groups when you really need them?
Picked up britney today on state st in schenectady, great BBBJ and likes to swallow, no spit and rince, she is a petite brunette with nice perky A's,said she will be around at 6 pm on m,w,f day. No number.Random thought / advice for what it is worth, you made an incredibly bad choice for a handle! When I see a new member with only two posts drop a note mentioning a specific SW who will be out at specific dates and times, and I have never heard of her or seen her in my daily schenectady travels, well let's just say I am already cautious. We all appreciate information, and everyone has to be "new" at some point, but you might not want your handle to be a common nickname for uncle LEO. Just saying.
Random thought / advice for what it is worth, you made an incredibly bad choice for a handle! When I see a new member with only two posts drop a note mentioning a specific SW who will be out at specific dates and times, and I have never heard of her or seen her in my daily schenectady travels, well let's just say I am already cautious. We all appreciate information, and everyone has to be "new" at some point, but you might not want your handle to be a common nickname for uncle LEO. Just saying.He might just like the Wizard of Oz movie.
Random thought / advice for what it is worth, you made an incredibly bad choice for a handle! When I see a new member with only two posts drop a note mentioning a specific SW who will be out at specific dates and times, and I have never heard of her or seen her in my daily schenectady travels, well let's just say I am already cautious. We all appreciate information, and everyone has to be "new" at some point, but you might not want your handle to be a common nickname for uncle LEO. Just saying.Funny. In another city down south, there was a poster who was active and new and had a handle KingKongLeo.
Now THAT was a flag until proven otherwise (we think).
He has since changed it but only after about a year and a half.
Visually, it always caused one to pause, just like the above mentioned handle.
Has anyone read anything lately about the on going battle surrounding Back Page? The mongers I know are not able to speak out about it because of our significant others. Where are all the freedom of the press groups when you really need them?If concerned, if all of you concerned of this censorship were to send anonymous letters stating the issue to the New York Civil Liberties Union at: NYCLU at 90 State Street, Suite 518, Albany, NY 12207 L:.
Or to the ACLU at: 125 Broad Street #18, New York, NY 10004, or call. (212) 549-2500 : then your 'voices' may be used for your concern.
Generally, I detest the ACLU, but they will fight for constitutional issues if the facts are direct assault.
I am not sure that the People v. Larry Flynt case was correctly decided way back when, but the Flynt case sets precedent, probably, for the BP issue.
Where are the libertarians when the escorts need them?? Maybe all the lobbyists are too busy with pot legislation efforts.
I do believe that advertising for allegedly illegal activities is not covered by free speech rights. Now, if one wants to advertise and expound on the merits of or LACK of merits to such laws, that is covered.
Now, if each provider were to state that they were wanting to produce art films, like larry flynt, and maybe some rehearsing or casting is first required to check suitability, then it would be legal speech / commerce, technically, or other ways around the issue. But the category could also be re-titled as.
"Escort Fantasy Posting. Not reality", then the postings may be legit with free publishing speech to post fantasy. Whether it leads to a mutual meet-up later, well, then that is a different issue of discussion or legality, but that segment would be behind closed doors. OR. What if the fantasy ad leads to phone dialog / phone sex-words for fantasy as per the ad, then maybe a different subsequent meet-up, plausibly "indirect" to the ad, but between two consenting adults, what then? I know, that is too complicated for a desperate drugggg addled provider. These are just scenarios of arguent. Words mean things. Plausible Deniability is key to most things legal. Ask any higher up politician, maybe with a name like Clinton! LOL.
The alternative argument is that ALL women who have sex with men are "providers" who are accepting things. Dinner, travel, presents, whatever, outside of marriage it should technically all be the same and illegal whereas the registered marriage is what makes such "trade" for services as being legal due to "marital duties" as such. Consumation and continuation of sex. The laws EXPECT it there. It is legally used by injured parties for damages for loss of such sexual action (attorneys know the legal term, I forgot it) or for Divorce actions. Failure to provide "wifely duties"/ lack of sex. LOL. (sucks to be married person, I guess).
OK. Done rambling on about this. Too early to think straight anyway.
Funny. In another city down south, there was a poster who was active and new and had a handle KingKongLeo.
Now THAT was a flag until proven otherwise (we think).
He has since changed it but only after about a year and a half.
Visually, it always caused one to pause, just like the above mentioned handle.Some people like to project there bs onto others, so Ill explain my handle, The tinman had no heart nor did I while playing collage ball, hence its a nickname, also I work with tin and steal. The 357 is because I'm packing all the time, so keep your conjecture to your self, and yes I am new here but an old pro in the world.
Member #5729
01-20-17, 10:21
The problem with freedom of speech advocates fighting for BP is that they are generally the same makeup of people who are also involved in anti-prostitution / trafficking groups. So, it's hard politically to fight on one hand and defend on the other. They are also the same people who want the CEO and 2 other shareholders to face criminal charges (thrown out in California and thrown out on appeal, and SCOTUS refused to hear it defacto affirming a lower appellate court throwing out charges both criminally and in a civil suit). They are fighting so many legal battles right now it is really hard to track. California, Washington, SCOTUS just decided not to hear an appeal, the Senate. It's rough.
Some people like to project there bs onto others, so Ill explain my handle, The tinman had no heart nor did I while playing collage ball, hence its a nickname, also I work with tin and steal. The 357 is because I'm packing all the time, so keep your conjecture to your self, and yes I am new here but an old pro in the world.I meant no I'll will. Just a good laugh at your handle which, regardless of your nickname's origin, stands out on a board such as this. Pm me if you ever need additional info on any posts I have made. I'll be happy to help.
Am I seeing things or has that old haunt across from SUNY been torn down? If so, there should be some kind of monger ceremony to commemorate its demise. .
EricaSummerFun
02-23-17, 16:33
Nicely put! .
If concerned, if all of you concerned of this censorship were to send anonymous letters stating the issue to the New York Civil Liberties Union at: NYCLU at 90 State Street, Suite 518, Albany, NY 12207 L:.
Or to the ACLU at: 125 Broad Street #18, New York, NY 10004, or call. (212) 549-2500 : then your 'voices' may be used for your concern.
Generally, I detest the ACLU, but they will fight for constitutional issues if the facts are direct assault.
I am not sure that the People v. Larry Flynt case was correctly decided way back when, but the Flynt case sets precedent, probably, for the BP issue.
Where are the libertarians when the escorts need them?? Maybe all the lobbyists are too busy with pot legislation efforts.
I do believe that advertising for allegedly illegal activities is not covered by free speech rights. Now, if one wants to advertise and expound on the merits of or LACK of merits to such laws, that is covered.
Now, if each provider were to state that they were wanting to produce art films, like larry flynt, and maybe some rehearsing or casting is first required to check suitability, then it would be legal speech / commerce, technically, or other ways around the issue. But the category could also be re-titled as.
"Escort Fantasy Posting. Not reality", then the postings may be legit with free publishing speech to post fantasy. Whether it leads to a mutual meet-up later, well, then that is a different issue of discussion or legality, but that segment would be behind closed doors. OR. What if the fantasy ad leads to phone dialog / phone sex-words for fantasy as per the ad, then maybe a different subsequent meet-up, plausibly "indirect" to the ad, but between two consenting adults, what then? I know, that is too complicated for a desperate drugggg addled provider. These are just scenarios of arguent. Words mean things. Plausible Deniability is key to most things legal. Ask any higher up politician, maybe with a name like Clinton! LOL.
The alternative argument is that ALL women who have sex with men are "providers" who are accepting things. Dinner, travel, presents, whatever, outside of marriage it should technically all be the same and illegal whereas the registered marriage is what makes such "trade" for services as being legal due to "marital duties" as such. Consumation and continuation of sex. The laws EXPECT it there. It is legally used by injured parties for damages for loss of such sexual action (attorneys know the legal term, I forgot it) or for Divorce actions. Failure to provide "wifely duties"/ lack of sex. LOL. (sucks to be married person, I guess).
OK. Done rambling on about this. Too early to think straight anyway.
Member #5729
02-24-17, 16:29
Just because you say it's fantasy, just like if you say "No illegal activities, no sex", that doesn't somehow protect it or make it legal. It's what you are actually doing, not necessarily how you get to it. In the end, money is exchanged for sex regardless of what sort of meaningless disclaimer you use.
You can't exactly advertise a goat for sale if goats are illegal to sell and dress them up in your sale ad as "sweet, tender rams" and expect that the wording of the ad will make them legal because you have described them as "sweet and tender".
Well we've had the rants and raves and now it's time for some stupid stuff. In my travels I have experienced many a female access portal of varying positioning as to front mounted or more to the rear. What's that you say? Everyone has seen this! But my contention is that there is a direct link between foot size and plumbing position. The bigger the feet the more forward mounted will be the juicy access. The smaller the feet the more lower centered the heavenly gate. So if you are a fan of doggie then look for the ones with small feet. And if you like to take them from the front or up against a wall-look for big feet! Just something else to have on your mind while trying to keep it up!!
Told you it would be stupid! Hammer.
Is there an exceptional dearth of half-way attractive local talent these days? It's never been a great area with a lot of options but the pickings seem especially few and fairly hideous for quite some time. Has everyone gone below the radar or is it simply a long drought?
Thompson7675
03-17-17, 15:33
Matt. You hit the hoe on the head.
Member #5729
03-29-17, 09:53
Is there an exceptional dearth of half-way attractive local talent these days? It's never been a great area with a lot of options but the pickings seem especially few and fairly hideous for quite some time. Has everyone gone below the radar or is it simply a long drought?I've found some UTR attractive girls who really aren't out there for every customer but more of a "beneficial relationship". Beyond that, there is definitely a hole to be filled in the normal scene.
I've found some UTR attractive girls who really aren't out there for every customer but more of a "beneficial relationship". Beyond that, there is definitely a hole to be filled in the normal scene.I've been doing the UTR thing as well. Its a lot work as time availability is limited but the quality of experience is better.
(please don't email me asking for #'s. My 2 UTRs are not looking for more business and they picked me, not the other way around) .
I got really tired of the same old set an appt, show up and get radio silence or wait 10 minutes which turned into an hour.
My usual availability is mornings 7 am. Noon, and most girls don't seem to answer the phone before noon.
Albany usually has a dry spell Jan until July when track season kicks in and we start getting "visitors".
I've been doing the UTR thing as well. Its a lot work as time availability is limited but the quality of experience is better.
(please don't email me asking for #'s. My 2 UTRs are not looking for more business and they picked me, not the other way around) .
I got really tired of the same old set an appt, show up and get radio silence or wait 10 minutes which turned into an hour.
My usual availability is mornings 7 am. Noon, and most girls don't seem to answer the phone before noon.
Albany usually has a dry spell Jan until July when track season kicks in and we start getting "visitors".This is why I've been pretty much on radio silence. I'm tired of the disappointments, games and hassles. UTR has its issues but overall it's been working better for me.
Just because you say it's fantasy, just like if you say "No illegal activities, no sex", that doesn't somehow protect it or make it legal. It's what you are actually doing, not necessarily how you get to it. In the end, money is exchanged for sex regardless of what sort of meaningless disclaimer you use.I couldn't agree more.
The best is " I'm not affiliated with law enforcement of any kind, are you? " a police officers job is to lie and deceive. That's how they make their busts. Just bc you say your not a cop doesn't make it true. It's crazy how many do this and accept it as fact!! Boggles my mind the incompetence of some. Mafia went down bc the feds were commiting crimes along side them to get the dirt on them.
It's just how it's done.
Besides they will always believe the law enforcement agent before the one accused of breaking the law!!
Geneva Guy
05-29-17, 10:42
My list of holiday gripes:
-Can we please delete the "Strip club category" from this Albany board. What a waste of time and money they are, especially in this area. Why would you want to pay for a sweaty girl to dance on a pole or even worse, come and tease you with no final reward? You can watch porn for free online and end up with the same outcome in your hand hahahaha.
-Guys that talk about "my friend" or "I had a dream" when doing reports, OH. LEO has no idea who you are talking about and we all envy your "friends" and "your dreams".
-The method of expressing money, what is this, Bitcoin " 2"?
-Aren't you shocked by the pics of the people arrested for prostitution busts when you see them. I always ask "really. Are they are working girls" YIKES.
-Guys that ask for contacts without ever doing reports. Makes you wonder doesn't it, are they just giving it a shot or is it something nefarious?
-Guys that ask for info and say they will TOFTT and post a report that never comes? Lie to your wife / spouse, not to the rest of us here.
-Guys that post the kind of stuff above because they are simply bored on the holiday? Hahahahahahahaha.
Would be good to delete the Strip club reports category though!
I see no need to continue here, I will no longer utilize backpage. The hobby has taken a turn for the worst, IMHO, BE CAREFUL.
WarrenAJeffers
06-24-17, 13:54
I see no need to continue here, I will no longer utilize backpage. The hobby has taken a turn for the worst, IMHO, BE CAREFUL.Dude, what happened?
If you visit BACKPAGE and see the many ads for VanVranken stating NEW young girls etc. Be aware that it's false. Same woman as always nothing new.
WarrenAJeffers
07-05-17, 15:25
I don't know how others feel about it, but I tend to want to avoid patronizing models who run in a crew or are involved in some sort of partnership with other models. I've seen this happen time and time again where models who once worked together have a falling out and start talking smack about one another on the web. Hobbyists then line up to take sides and get mixed up in situations that they should probably stay out of. The drama then spills over into a site that is supposed to be here to provide reviews, information and tips to help fellow hobbyists stay safe and determine which models are valid and legit and which ones we should avoid. Hobbyists have enough problems trying to avoid models who will rob us, provide poor service or may have chemical issues. We certainly don't need to take on their drama as well! I don't know about you guys-but I have enough of my own problems without getting mixed up in personal issues between models. For this reason-I avoid "crews", partnerships, cliques and models that run in packs! I've never seen any of these partnerships end amicably.Models. Is that what we're calling them now? LOL.
Silver Baron
07-05-17, 20:33
Models. Is that what we're calling them now? LOL.I never suggested that others should refer to them as models. It's my own personal preference. Given the troubles a lot of hobbyists on here have had getting decent, safe service-I simply don't find the term "providers" suitable for me. Yet I think it sounds better then "biotches", which was the term used by the fellow hobbyist whose post I replied to. I had hoped that others would have gotten more out of what I wrote than my use of the term "models". Unfortunately, I was wrong. The mistake is mine and I own it.
I never suggested that others should refer to them as models. It's my own personal preference. Given the troubles a lot of hobbyists on here have had getting decent, safe service-I simply don't find the term "providers" suitable for me. Yet I think it sounds better then "biotches", which was the term used by the fellow hobbyist whose post I replied to. I had hoped that others would have gotten more out of what I wrote than my use of the term "models". Unfortunately, I was wrong. The mistake is mine and I own it.From what I posted about, that original post, I believe my use of the term [Deleted by Admin] was proper. It was not about providing or modeling, but about one which trying to control a provider who does not need that [Deleted by Admin]
Silver Baron
07-11-17, 01:16
No harm, no foul.
My only intention was to point out that getting mixed up in all their drama is just a complete waste of time. I have more pressing concerns in my life. I don't want to make their problems my problems unless their issues affect me personally. And I can't see where any of us as hobbyists are affected by how these girls treat or try to control each other. Life is just too short for me to concern myself with that nonsense. But I would never presume to tell anyone else how to live. If it matters that much to you, fine. Whatever floats your boat.
Stay safe.
No harm, no foul.
My only intention was to point out that getting mixed up in all their drama is just a complete waste of time. I have more pressing concerns in my life. I don't want to make their problems my problems unless their issues affect me personally. And I can't see where any of us as hobbyists are affected by how these girls treat or try to control each other. Life is just too short for me to concern myself with that nonsense. But I would never presume to tell anyone else how to live. If it matters that much to you, fine. Whatever floats your boat.
Stay safe.Maybe you read too much in my orig. Post. I am not mixed up or really care one iota, but was just pointing out the idiocy of it all, and at most, I guess to point out that others may want to be wary of such a control freak, chocolate, that is, whomever she is.
Silver Baron
07-12-17, 07:43
Maybe you read too much in my orig. Post. I am not mixed up or really care one iota, but was just pointing out the idiocy of it all, and at most, I guess to point out that others may want to be wary of such a control freak, chocolate, that is, whomever she is.There are a lot of people to be wary of in the hobby. B. S. Comes in all forms, all sizes, shapes and colors and from every possible direction. If I feel I have a legit reason to avoid her, I will.
The fact that she may be a control freak doesn't speak to whether or not her service is good or bad. Any hobbyists looking to hook up with her should first seek the answers to these questions:
Is her environment safe? Is her price reasonable? Does she upsell? Is she promising services that she does not provide? Does she have chemical issues?
Everyone is a f. King control freak to some degree and on some level. I'll base my decision whether or not to see a particular girl on valid, legit reviews. It sounds like you have an ax to grind.
With this girl-so you might not be the most objective person to take advice from.
There are a lot of people to be wary of in the hobby. B. S. Comes in all forms, all sizes, shapes and colors and from every possible direction. If I feel I have a legit reason to avoid her, I will.
The fact that she may be a control freak doesn't speak to whether or not her service is good or bad. Any hobbyists looking to hook up with her should first seek the answers to these questions:
Is her environment safe? Is her price reasonable? Does she upsell? Is she promising services that she does not provide? Does she have chemical issues?
Everyone is a f. King control freak to some degree and on some level. I'll base my decision whether or not to see a particular girl on valid, legit reviews. It sounds like you have an ax to grind.
With this girl-so you might not be the most objective person to take advice from.What the fuuk are you talking about. I was not angling regarding review of anyone or whether you should go for it or anything like that. Just pointed out a sociological observation.
OH I have no ax to grind. Do not know her, never went near that person. And never would for specific reasons, nor would I recommend my buddy to do so. NOW, it seems as if YOU may have some bias in favor of her. I guess you are just a fan of a person that would dog a gal who wants to be independent of a pimp wannabee as this manager type, Chocolate. And I can only now realize that your posts are an attack on me due to your bias. Guess what, you DID read way too much into my original post. That is very clear now. I care not what you do or your criteria. I just posted on the proclivity of certain persons who act a certain way. In this case, a control freak "manager". Sorry if you do not like my pointing out a possible psychotic flaw in your favored friend / associate / whatever.
Silver Baron
07-21-17, 17:47
What the fuuk are you talking about. I was not angling regarding review of anyone or whether you should go for it or anything like that. Just pointed out a sociological observation.
OH I have no ax to grind. Do not know her, never went near that person. And never would for specific reasons, nor would I recommend my buddy to do so. NOW, it seems as if YOU may have some bias in favor of her. I guess you are just a fan of a person that would dog a gal who wants to be independent of a pimp wannabee as this manager type, Chocolate. And I can only now realize that your posts are an attack on me due to your bias. Guess what, you DID read way too much into my original post. That is very clear now. I care not what you do or your criteria. I just posted on the proclivity of certain persons who act a certain way. In this case, a control freak "manager". Sorry if you do not like my pointing out a possible psychotic flaw in your favored friend / associate / whatever.I've never met her, either. And having read back several months over your previous postings-I suspect I know why you would never see her. Your postings tend to be highly judgemental of certain types of people which you clearly don't like. No one attacked you, Freedom. But-since you went there-referring to another human being as a "biotch" could be considered unusually cruel for someone who has to pay for it-don't you think? You just recently called another girl a "fatty". And I'm attacking YOU? From what I have read, you have a very long history here of posting extremely cruel and disrespectful comments toward certain people. And you call ME biased? You'd never hear me talking about another person the way you talk about these people-whether I like them or not. It's not my place to pass judgment on them. And-in case you didn't get my point the first time, let my state it a different way: These girls personal lives is NO business of yours. PERIOD! Unless it affects you personally! Yeah-somebody is psychotic. As well as obsessed. To quote you: "I just posted on the proclivity of certain persons who act a certain way". Those are YOUR words. I'm doing the same. Now-you have every right to think and feel any way you want to about certain people. But, please don't deceive yourself into believing that you yourself are perfect. I know for a fact that I am not. And-according to your posting history here-neither are you!
I've never met her, either. And having read back several months over your previous postings-I suspect I know why you would never see her. Your postings tend to be highly judgemental of certain types of people which you clearly don't like. No one attacked you, Freedom. But-since you went there-referring to another human being as a "biotch" could be considered unusually cruel for someone who has to pay for it-don't you think? You just recently called another girl a "fatty". And I'm attacking YOU? From what I have read, you have a very long history here of posting extremely cruel and disrespectful comments toward certain people. And you call ME biased? You'd never hear me talking about another person the way you talk about these people-whether I like them or not. It's not my place to pass judgment on them. And-in case you didn't get my point the first time, let my state it a different way: These girls personal lives is NO business of yours. PERIOD! Unless it affects you personally! Yeah-somebody is psychotic. As well as obsessed. To quote you: "I just posted on the proclivity of certain persons who act a certain way". Those are YOUR words. I'm doing the same. Now-you have every right to think and feel any way you want to about certain people. But, please don't deceive yourself into believing that you yourself are perfect. I know for a fact that I am not. And-according to your posting history here-neither are you!Holy shite batman. You really are off base. My biooootch comment was about a manager who was alleged to be posting a fake ad dogging another provider who was trying to be independent of said female manager. My post was in response to a post (s) first placed regarding the issue by other posters. None of them was YOU. SO, yes, YOU are way off track. ANd now you wish to attack. I read your first two lines and decided to ignore the rest. I see you are a recent newbie poster here. Your cred is low with me.
By the way, yes, I am a picky fuckkker. If I were to seek, I would not fuuk pigs or hippos or gnarly faced persons. If moulah is involved there, there is absolutely no reason to pay ugly women for such stuff unless you yourself are hideous. I do not have that problem and the quality in upstate NY leaves a lot to be desired.
Silver Baron
07-24-17, 11:39
[Deleted by Admin]
It's long past time to shut you down. I just reviewed your posts, your obviously a chick or a guy who's had a complete ballectomy.
In any event, be gone
A2
The quality of providers in the area leaves a lot to be desired. But-that does not entitle you to abuse them, judge them unfairly or spend your time wasting theirs.
No matter how they look or whether or not they meet the standards of someone with a Narcissistic Personality Disorder. They are human beings, and as such (on that basis alone) deserve respect.No NPD here.
You are a fool. You act as if I am abusing them. To their face. You are a total fool. Start reading all the posters threads here. As if I am the only one pointing out fat, ugly, scrawny, picked skin, sloppiness, on and on. Are you for real? I speak in truthful statements, not political correctness. That is a fact and THAT is not being foolish here. When posters talk of back handed actions of a person, such as a pimp / mgr who is USING and truly abusing these persons / providers and taking from them, and then I refer with a Biottttch term (OH WOW< HOW ABUSIVE), which is the truth in fact, then you get all high and mighty? Maybe YOU have a Messianic Disorder. Go mind your own business and read the terms of service on here. You are in violation and now you have made me be in violation by responding to your nonsense. Go ignore yourself. I suppose if I use terms like slender, sexy, athletic-like-a-volleyball player, alluring, hott, and so forth, then you shall attack me or others as being shallow, objectifying, misogynistic, materialistic and other assorted DSM-V recognized disorders.
By the way, not sure what country you hail from, but in this country, Freedom of Speech still exists. Freedom of opinion also hails and those are not "entitlements". You are just a troll on this internet.
I have regularly posted about how to post on CL, be coherent, non threatening, and attempt to write a clear and concise request for a paramour. I will not share their digits. I worked long and hard, with numerous failures, in between. If you're too lazy, it's not my problem. Both my regulars screen and respond to respectful ads. Any pm for digits will no longer receive any response. They do not even want me sharing any information, that's why they're under the radar.
WarrenAJeffers
09-25-17, 11:30
I have regularly posted about how to post on CL, be coherent, non threatening, and attempt to write a clear and concise request for a paramour. I will not share their digits. I worked long and hard, with numerous failures, in between. If you're too lazy, it's not my problem. Both my regulars screen and respond to respectful ads. Any pm for digits will no longer receive any response. They do not even want me sharing any information, that's why they're under the radar.That's all very good, but if you're so happy with your 2 utr chicks, what ru still doing here?
That's all very good, but if you're so happy with your 2 utr chicks, what ru still doing here?People pm me, being a respectable person, I respond. So, to answer your inquiry, that's why. And I agree with you. Are you an administrator?
Yeah I've read her postings. Complaining about how there's no place to provide her side of the story on reviews. Especially about hobbyist's hygiene and looks.In general, if you are seeing a provider and you stink like diesel fuel or body odor or very bad breath or etc. And you go looking like you are in need of a serious shower, you should expect a YMMV result. Think about it. They can be selective just as we can.
Who wants to fuck a bum except a desperate strung out H-addict?
Be clean, groomed, smell normal and not just flooded with some nasty cologne and dress up clean as well. Some apparently do not do the right thing.
In general, if you are seeing a provider and you stink like diesel fuel or body odor or very bad breath or etc. And you go looking like you are in need of a serious shower, you should expect a YMMV result. Think about it. They can be selective just as we can.
Who wants to fuck a bum except a desperate strung out H-addict?
Be clean, groomed, smell normal and not just flooded with some nasty cologne and dress up clean as well. Some apparently do not do the right thing.Getting the impression you're lecturing us low brows by telling us the obvious.
Getting the impression you're lecturing us low brows by telling us the obvious.No, and I am not the first to make a general reminder statement of what these providers may be putting up with and the message is to those who are NOT aware of this, do not gooom, take a shower first or change their old you-trow even. Sorry if you took anything personally in this general post. Not lecturing, just reminding or making the unaware, aware. Food for thought as THIS factor may be the cause of YMMV with some who seem dissatisfied with the meeting. And this may be why this "provider" good or not at what she does, was griping on some site about not being able to tell her side. If you remove all such factors going in, then she has no *****. Cleanliness and politeness counts a lot as they are humans also and I am sure most, and you know this. Some may not concern themselves with this aspect though and should. IMHO.
OK, this is the hobby equivalent of complaining about airline food, but WTF is up with the Asian ads that show impossibly gorgeous women to lure you in then switch to some random chick? I've answered ads more out of a desire to complain than to actually visit them. Sure, some of the girls who actually answer the ads may be good lucking, great fucks, or both, but come on, are they even 1/10 as sexy as the girls in the ads? BP bait and switch is a fact of life, but the Asians take to the level of an art form.
OK, this is the hobby equivalent of complaining about airline food, but WTF is up with the Asian ads that show impossibly gorgeous women to lure you in then switch to some random chick? I've answered ads more out of a desire to complain than to actually visit them. Sure, some of the girls who actually answer the ads may be good lucking, great fucks, or both, but come on, are they even 1/10 as sexy as the girls in the ads? BP bait and switch is a fact of life, but the Asians take to the level of an art form.You sound like me. I wish I could find an independent Asian, I believe that the culture prevents the possibility, especially for Asian born ladies. I've walked away more than once, then they lower the donation. I don't go back because I can engage with a pretty AA or Caucasian. Anyway, just another reason I stick with two utr ladies, and it's much safer.
You sound like me. I wish I could find an independent Asian, I believe that the culture prevents the possibility, especially for Asian born ladies. I've walked away more than once, then they lower the donation. I don't go back because I can engage with a pretty AA or Caucasian. Anyway, just another reason I stick with two utr ladies, and it's much safer.I said once that I pity the smoking hot independent Asian girl who posts a legitimate ad on BP. Guys like us will skip right on by thinking it's another bait and switch.
Plus there's that one ad for a smoking hot Vietnamese girl which ended up being a scam. I still see it from time to time.
OK, this is the hobby equivalent of complaining about airline food, but WTF is up with the Asian ads that show impossibly gorgeous women to lure you in then switch to some random chick? I've answered ads more out of a desire to complain than to actually visit them. Sure, some of the girls who actually answer the ads may be good lucking, great fucks, or both, but come on, are they even 1/10 as sexy as the girls in the ads? BP bait and switch is a fact of life, but the Asians take to the level of an art form.They are probably not here in the USA anyways, WAY TGTBT. Otherwise, guys here would actually steal them away to a town far far away from where they "saved them" and marry them. If they looked that good. Love! Think about that.
Kinda like why dudes fly to the phillipines and find a little cutie who may then look like a monkey by age 50, but by then, the 50 yr old dude with a 23 yr old hottie will then be 80 and needs glasses anyway!
They know it works. Triggers certain brains, they get their juices a flowin, then just got to have that, then they take what they can get and when they squirt they could care less at that point. Some others do care and walk away. Numbers game.
Since the change in policies, does BP allow the posters to put in their own location? Or is everything automatically Albany? I would like to know which girls are local to Schenectady without having to call a dozen.
I know there is always an angle, but what is the deal with a girl wanting to be paid with a money pak card? I always thought cash was king! But she wants a money pak card. She told me where to buy it, and how much to put on it. - First time I ran into this and looking for advice. - Thanks. Dave.
I know there is always an angle, but what is the deal with a girl wanting to be paid with a money pak card? I always thought cash was king! But she wants a money pak card. She told me where to buy it, and how much to put on it. - First time I ran into this and looking for advice. - Thanks. Dave.Hi Dave. Ron M from Chicago.
It's a classic scam. You put money on a gift card. Then she'll ask you what the code number is on the card over the phone. Once she has that number she has your money and you never get to see her. I've read in other states where guys fell for this scam. Any provider that wants a gift card as payment totally avoid.
I know there is always an angle, but what is the deal with a girl wanting to be paid with a money pak card? I always thought cash was king! But she wants a money pak card. She told me where to buy it, and how much to put on it. - First time I ran into this and looking for advice. - Thanks. Dave.Never heard of it, but I'm sure that it is somehow a scam.
I know there is always an angle, but what is the deal with a girl wanting to be paid with a money pak card? I always thought cash was king! But she wants a money pak card. She told me where to buy it, and how much to put on it. - First time I ran into this and looking for advice. - Thanks. Dave.And I bet after you get the card she'll want the number over the phone to verify and PRESTO the money is gone. Like the other guy said, cash is king.
Hammer.
Is the location automatically set as Albany, or are the Schenectady girls just not posting? I want to know where the girls are before I call them. - Dave.
Is the location automatically set as Albany, or are the Schenectady girls just not posting? I want to know where the girls are before I call them. - Dave.Some of the girls have wised up and are putting their location, menu and / or rules in a picture, but the site only allows the general area. I often text a number of girls and ask where they are, apologizing because of BP's nonsense.
Okay, so three out of my four ATFs are now pregnant. WTF is up with that? I am not into doing pregnant women, dammit!
One of them (a true UTR) tried to tell me I am the baby daddy as if the bag broke when we were doing it. Claims she had not been seeing anyone else, just me, etc. Uh huh, I took care of that a long time ago so its a physical impossibility.
Now I got to start all over again and the pickings are damn slim. Frustrating!
Okay, so three out of my four ATFs are now pregnant. WTF is up with that? I am not into doing pregnant women, dammit!
One of them (a true UTR) tried to tell me I am the baby daddy as if the bag broke when we were doing it. Claims she had not been seeing anyone else, just me, etc. Uh huh, I took care of that a long time ago so its a physical impossibility.
Now I got to start all over again and the pickings are damn slim. Frustrating!Wow. What did she say when you told her you were fixed?
Wow. What did she say when you told her you were fixed?Well I was pretty emphatic and said "It doesn't grow back" and that made her laugh and that was the end of it.
Well I was pretty emphatic and said "It doesn't grow back" and that made her laugh and that was the end of it.That's cool. It could've been a bad scene.
That's cool. It could've been a bad scene.It was very early on and she was very freaked out and I think, in that state, she really believed it to be true, no evil intent. But she also knows me well and that I am straight with her and was willing to prove my situation and she came to her senses.
The hypocrites in the White House, attorney general Sessions, and others are responsible. To think a man accused of raping a 13 year old and another who continues an assault on marijuana have now made it more dangerous for providers than ever. Many will return to the streets, victims of poverty and drug abuse. I made comments about 45 and was severely criticized. He is the enemy of people who value freedom. Until he's impeached or drops dead from a cardiovascular incident he will continue his reign of terror and bigotry. Thanks to those who despise Obama and a progressive agenda we have a despot in the house that slaves built. I know this will likely be taken down and deemed inappropriate. Peace out, good luck.
Hobbyist10
04-09-18, 23:15
The hypocrites in the White House, attorney general Sessions, and others are responsible. To think a man accused of raping a 13 year old and another who continues an assault on marijuana have now made it more dangerous for providers than ever. Many will return to the streets, victims of poverty and drug abuse. I made comments about 45 and was severely criticized. He is the enemy of people who value freedom. Until he's impeached or drops dead from a cardiovascular incident he will continue his reign of terror and bigotry. Thanks to those who despise Obama and a progressive agenda we have a despot in the house that slaves built. I know this will likely be taken down and deemed inappropriate. Peace out, good luck.If you voted for trump, you are responsible for this! Deal with it.
If you voted for trump, you are responsible for this! Deal with it.Just wanted to say that in ten years of playing the game I have never met a girl I suspected of being a sex slave or underage. I tended to date average looking girls because I found them more real and more reasonable. I did know some who knocked my socks off like the spinner Victoria, wish I had her number. The shutdown of sites like backpage played to the evangelicals and other hypocrites who professed being morally superior, when in fact they were not, as evidenced by the news. I welcome any debate, free of ad hominem attack.
Just wanted to say that in ten years of playing the game I have never met a girl I suspected of being a sex slave or underage. I tended to date average looking girls because I found them more real and more reasonable. I did know some who knocked my socks off like the spinner Victoria, wish I had her number. The shutdown of sites like backpage played to the evangelicals and other hypocrites who professed being morally superior, when in fact they were not, as evidenced by the news. I welcome any debate, free of ad hominem attack.No attack or debate from me. It all especially galls me because I have no doubt that Pence spends his evenings on Grindr when "Mother" isn't looking.
Member #5729
04-10-18, 12:29
Honestly, it's backpage's fault we are in this position. They did in fact get in trouble prior to this law over trafficking issues. Come on guys, what do you think all the asian agencies at their core are? What did backpage do? Unlike CL who at least pretended to do something about it while knowing they did nothing, BP flipped off the US gov't. All those years of litigation ensued and in the end the owners couldn't be held individually responsible. So, the gov't passed FOSTA. We all know what happened after that.
You need to at least pretend to have an innocent face when you are doing something so illegal. BP didn't want to play ball against the only enemy in the world with unlimited resources. Stupid. Just plain stupid.
Hobbyist10
04-10-18, 13:07
Honestly, it's backpage's fault we are in this position. They did in fact get in trouble prior to this law over trafficking issues. Come on guys, what do you think all the asian agencies at their core are? What did backpage do? Unlike CL who at least pretended to do something about it while knowing they did nothing, BP flipped off the US gov't. All those years of litigation ensued and in the end the owners couldn't be held individually responsible. So, the gov't passed FOSTA. We all know what happened after that.
You need to at least pretend to have an innocent face when you are doing something so illegal. BP didn't want to play ball against the only enemy in the world with unlimited resources. Stupid. Just plain stupid.This is directly a result of sessions who is on a crusade to push his morals on us. Trump hired him, therefore if you voted for trump, it's YOUR FAULT. Hard pill to swallow but it's the truth.
Honestly, it's backpage's fault we are in this position. They did in fact get in trouble prior to this law over trafficking issues. Come on guys, what do you think all the asian agencies at their core are? What did backpage do? Unlike CL who at least pretended to do something about it while knowing they did nothing, BP flipped off the US gov't. All those years of litigation ensued and in the end the owners couldn't be held individually responsible. So, the gov't passed FOSTA. We all know what happened after that.
You need to at least pretend to have an innocent face when you are doing something so illegal. BP didn't want to play ball against the only enemy in the world with unlimited resources. Stupid. Just plain stupid.My understanding that it's not just BP that has been affected but other non-BP affiliated sites. Someone better informed could confirm or correct me on that assumption. I would also state that I suspect that this would have happened under other administrations as well. But there is something particularly galling that it is THIS current administration, with all it's corrupt hypocrisy proudly displayed at full mast, that has made this move.
The indictment has been released. It reads like a bedtime story of dumb moves, number 1 dumb move being keeping the company and servers based in the US. Read it and you'll have the facts at least from the US Gov'ts point of view.
https://www.justice.gov/file/1050276/download
If the link doesn't come through just google for "backpage indictment justice dept".
I'm not going to pretend what they were doing was legal. The fun always comes to end at some point and you move on.
I'm old enough to remember the old pre-internet days of finding companionship!
First and foremost I want to say it's great having this site back up. Thanks to all that made it happen.
Now down to business, I had an appointment with Chloe today and my visit with her was pretty much as great as it always is. I haven't seen her for 2-3 weeks so I was pleasantly surprised at how beautiful she is. It seems I always take her good looks for granted until I am in front of her again. She was in a bit of a funk when I got there and the reason why was because a monger she met via another source, not this site, decided he wanted to have his session last night, more of her time and body and then all of the money she had. He showed up with a holstered weapon which she didn't find totally unusual since she knows lots of guys have permits to carry concealed. He also didn't drive to her location, but must have parked somewhere near by and walked up, which again is not unusual since lots of us park nearby and not at the place we are doing business. Any way he ended up taking her money, and her cellphone. He must have been using a burner phone to contact her because the # he contacted her with is no longer in service. If that wasn't bad enough, after I saw her today another monger apparently got upset because she wouldn't allow him to do anal and he threatened to write negative reviews about her. Chloe is a good girl and is all about her business so I would hate for her to stop providing because a few mongers don't like it when they don't get their way or want more than a provider offers.
Stay Safe-Soldier.
LeroyGibbs
05-26-18, 17:46
First off sorry A2 I realized afterwards I posted this as new thread earlier in heat of moment on side of road after getting robbed. Soldier I'm not here to get in pissing match about this but Chloe robbed over 200 from my pocket while I was in bathroom after a great BBBJTC wswallow. There is no doubt money was in my pocket, when I put 150 on dresser I had my other wad in pocket. I'm just grateful I at least left my wallet in car. I usually only bring in donation, I fucked up. I also heard her sob story when I got there, about being previously robbed, after what she did to me I highly doubtful that ever happened.
If you noticed, the other guy, may be him, posted of his encounter with her saying she took his funds form his pants pocket while cleaning up in bathroom. He self flagellated of his stupidity, so it seemed to ring true. Why should we not believe him and instead believe an escort?
Just wondering.
First and foremost I want to say it's great having this site back up. Thanks to all that made it happen.
Now down to business, I had an appointment with Chloe today and my visit with her was pretty much as great as it always is. I haven't seen her for 2-3 weeks so I was pleasantly surprised at how beautiful she is. It seems I always take her good looks for granted until I am in front of her again. She was in a bit of a funk when I got there and the reason why was because a monger she met via another source, not this site, decided he wanted to have his session last night, more of her time and body and then all of the money she had. He showed up with a holstered weapon which she didn't find totally unusual since she knows lots of guys have permits to carry concealed. He also didn't drive to her location, but must have parked somewhere near by and walked up, which again is not unusual since lots of us park nearby and not at the place we are doing business. Any way he ended up taking her money, and her cellphone. He must have been using a burner phone to contact her because the # he contacted her with is no longer in service. If that wasn't bad enough, after I saw her today another monger apparently got upset because she wouldn't allow him to do anal and he threatened to write negative reviews about her. Chloe is a good girl and is all about her business so I would hate for her to stop providing because a few mongers don't like it when they don't get their way or want more than a provider offers.
Stay Safe-Soldier.
WarrenAJeffers
05-26-18, 19:57
First and foremost I want to say it's great having this site back up. Thanks to all that made it happen.
Now down to business, I had an appointment with Chloe today and my visit with her was pretty much as great as it always is. I haven't seen her for 2-3 weeks so I was pleasantly surprised at how beautiful she is. It seems I always take her good looks for granted until I am in front of her again. She was in a bit of a funk when I got there and the reason why was because a monger she met via another source, not this site, decided he wanted to have his session last night, more of her time and body and then all of the money she had. He showed up with a holstered weapon which she didn't find totally unusual since she knows lots of guys have permits to carry concealed. He also didn't drive to her location, but must have parked somewhere near by and walked up, which again is not unusual since lots of us park nearby and not at the place we are doing business. Any way he ended up taking her money, and her cellphone. He must have been using a burner phone to contact her because the # he contacted her with is no longer in service. If that wasn't bad enough, after I saw her today another monger apparently got upset because she wouldn't allow him to do anal and he threatened to write negative reviews about her. Chloe is a good girl and is all about her business so I would hate for her to stop providing because a few mongers don't like it when they don't get their way or want more than a provider offers.
Stay Safe-Soldier.I've seen her a few times and she was excellent. She called me today and told me she was robbed and raped last night. Of course she sounded upset and wanted a hand out, to which I declined. Now I see the review today from a monger who says he was robbed by her. So I don't know what to think at this point. Maybe I'll lay low from her for awhile.
ImThatGuy12
05-27-18, 07:25
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WarrenAJeffers
05-27-18, 07:54
This morning she sent me a pic of her black and blue face, so something definitely happened to her. Her version of the events is the guy removed the condom during vaginal sex and attempted to go bb anal with her. When she refused he demanded his $ back, she said no, and he pushed her face into a wall. Then took her cash and phone and ran out. I'm sure we can all guess who she's saying did it.
I've seen her a few times and she was excellent. She called me today and told me she was robbed and raped last night. Of course she sounded upset and wanted a hand out, to which I declined. Now I see the review today from a monger who says he was robbed by her. So I don't know what to think at this point. Maybe I'll lay low from her for awhile.So,. First, I know not of this provider or what she even looks like, Chloe.
But, seems we have a desperate-for-money female who appears to be willing to give sob stories to her known customers and possibly or actually rob / steal money from new customers she does not know.
Now, I never got married because time proved out that I had never been involved with an HONEST female. I guess that was the blessing; found out just in time prior to any binding arrangement. So, I do not easily believe ANY female, so why the hell should I, or anyone else, believe that some Escort, possibly on drugs and way wanting of funds. Why the hell should I believe much or anything such a female says to me, or to others? HMMMMmmmmmmMMMM?
I have been fooled or lied to by strippers, girlfriends, girls I wanted to date / get to know, customers, nurses, strangers, store clerks, customer service reps, insurance claim reps and even my mother who has lied to give cover for a truly asshole / waste-of-skin brother. It is not ease for me, for one, to believe any female that sucks dick for money. Have fun for the moment and then walk away. No one should want to play White Knight for ANY escort. I know, we are all human and the "giver" nature in us strives to help others. Especially a damsel in distress. But hey, consider that it is PROBABLY, highly probable, that the sob story is fake. And if true, the advice to give her is NOT money or revenge for her "honor", but to advise her that maybe it is time she get out of the biz and straighten out her sad life.
Being that I have been robbed, ripped off myself, and also others I know who also have been ripped off, I choose to not believe the Chloe, and being that I would be a new one for her if I had ever tried a spin, I would consider myself to be a target for such negative act upon my pants pocket, should I goof up and bring more than donation. Just my Humble Opinion.
You make some good points. No argument from me, I wasn't there so I can't say for certain which version of the story is the truth. I was simply relaying what I heard from someone I have known to be a straight up provider. Either way its a bad situation that calls for caution.
If you noticed, the other guy, may be him, posted of his encounter with her saying she took his funds form his pants pocket while cleaning up in bathroom. He self flagellated of his stupidity, so it seemed to ring true. Why should we not believe him and instead believe an escort?
Just wondering.
LeroyGibbs
05-27-18, 11:29
I was just alerted that on another website I was accused of assaulting Chloe. I absolutely deny these accusations, I have never hit a woman. Period. This is worse than losing the money. I guess she wins. All I was doing was letting fellow mongers know what happened. I ve got nothing to gain, I already lost.
WarrenAJeffers
05-27-18, 18:00
I was just alerted that on another website I was accused of assaulting Chloe. I absolutely deny these accusations, I have never hit a woman. Period. This is worse than losing the money. I guess she wins. All I was doing was letting fellow mongers know what happened. I ve got nothing to gain, I already lost.Yep, that's what she's saying. She's sending this pic around too.
Well that blew up fast!
Chloe May or May not be telling the truth. I don't know the players so I wouldn't purport to know the truth or details from either side. What I will say is, 'never let your guard down, ever!" Anything is possible at anytime with anyone. Be aware and fuck with care.
Now to the point, who is Chloe? Any links to her ad or contact info? Easier to play properly when all the info is available.
Secondly, could it be possible she took a whopping from her pimp for losing the dough? Then forward pics to bolster pity?
Finally, is this chick blowing up your phones at random, unrequested times? Bad form if that's the case.
Welcome back to the usasexguide!! Exchange of info is good for everyone, please don't stifle posting info for insults.
Keep it civil, keep it sane and remember, ANYTHING IS POSSIBLE, with anyone at anytime.
Peace.
PK.
WarrenAJeffers
05-28-18, 08:34
Well that blew up fast!
Chloe May or May not be telling the truth. I don't know the players so I wouldn't purport to know the truth or details from either side. What I will say is, 'never let your guard down, ever!" Anything is possible at anytime with anyone. Be aware and fuck with care.
Now to the point, who is Chloe? Any links to her ad or contact info? Easier to play properly when all the info is available.
Secondly, could it be possible she took a whopping from her pimp for losing the dough? Then forward pics to bolster pity?
Finally, is this chick blowing up your phones at random, unrequested times? Bad form if that's the case.
Welcome back to the usasexguide!! Exchange of info is good for everyone, please don't stifle posting info for insults.
Keep it civil, keep it sane and remember, ANYTHING IS POSSIBLE, with anyone at anytime.
Peace.
PK.Loki, Soldier70 posted her contact info in the Escorts section. She does not advertise as she's a very private person; she holds a regular 9-5 and is typically only available nights and weekends. She will send you pics upon request, however. Now with that being said, I've seen her maybe a half dozen times, and not once have I ever seen evidence of pimps, boyfriends, or drugs within or around her apartment. She's always been straight up with me and a damn good time. I totally agree with your statement that anything can happen with anyone at any time. However, before this one incident, we've heard nothing but good reports about her. Now I don't know Leroy Gibbs from Adam, so I'm not saying he did it, and I'm not saying he didn't do it. I'm just letting everyone know what she relayed to me. And no disrespect intended, but Freedom's statements such as "all females are untruthful" don't further the debate along either. We all know there's a lot of scummy guys out there who wouldn't think twice about physically abusing a provider if he didn't get his way.
Loki, Soldier70 posted her contact info in the Escorts section. She does not advertise as she's a very private person; she holds a regular 9-5 and is typically only available nights and weekends. She will send you pics upon request, however. Now with that being said, I've seen her maybe a half dozen times, and not once have I ever seen evidence of pimps, boyfriends, or drugs within or around her apartment. She's always been straight up with me and a damn good time. I totally agree with your statement that anything can happen with anyone at any time. However, before this one incident, we've heard nothing but good reports about her. Now I don't know Leroy Gibbs from Adam, so I'm not saying he did it, and I'm not saying he didn't do it. I'm just letting everyone know what she relayed to me. And no disrespect intended, but Freedom's statements such as "all females are untruthful" don't further the debate along either. We all know there's a lot of scummy guys out there who wouldn't think twice about physically abusing a provider if he didn't get his way.I agree and understand, on many levels.
Peace.
Pk.
I was just alerted that on another website I was accused of assaulting Chloe. I absolutely deny these accusations, I have never hit a woman. Period. This is worse than losing the money. I guess she wins. All I was doing was letting fellow mongers know what happened. I ve got nothing to gain, I already lost.Do not know you from Adam and never seen you post here before, not saying that you did not. If you did not do what was said, you SHOULD be pissed, but if what she said is true, then you should probably back off and maybe consider riding off into the sunset. Either way, false info does not help anyone. From all reports, yours seems to be the outlier.
That being said, I still stand in opinion that women have HUGE propensity of making false statements: Life sadly has proven that out; even extreme false statements. Taking their words with a grain of salt is my safe default. And yes, there are a slew of scumbag guys out there as well. Easy to ignore them and move on as it is usually inconsequential, at least inconsequential to me.
I don't know, nor care what the issue is but I do want to let you guys know how much I appreciate you airing it out on the appropriate thread and not taking it to the review threads.
A2
So,. First, I know not of this provider or what she even looks like, Chloe.
But, seems we have a desperate-for-money female who appears to be willing to give sob stories to her known customers and possibly or actually rob / steal money from new customers she does not know.
Now, I never got married because time proved out that I had never been involved with an HONEST female. I guess that was the blessing; found out just in time prior to any binding arrangement. So, I do not easily believe ANY female, so why the hell should I, or anyone else, believe that some Escort, possibly on drugs and way wanting of funds. Why the hell should I believe much or anything such a female says to me, or to others? HMMMMmmmmmmMMMM?
I have been fooled or lied to by strippers, girlfriends, girls I wanted to date / get to know, customers, nurses, strangers, store clerks, customer service reps, insurance claim reps and even my mother who has lied to give cover for a truly asshole / waste-of-skin brother. It is not ease for me, for one, to believe any female that sucks dick for money. Have fun for the moment and then walk away. No one should want to play White Knight for ANY escort. I know, we are all human and the "giver" nature in us strives to help others. Especially a damsel in distress. But hey, consider that it is PROBABLY, highly probable, that the sob story is fake. And if true, the advice to give her is NOT money or revenge for her "honor", but to advise her that maybe it is time she get out of the biz and straighten out her sad life.
Being that I have been robbed, ripped off myself, and also others I know who also have been ripped off, I choose to not believe the Chloe, and being that I would be a new one for her if I had ever tried a spin, I would consider myself to be a target for such negative act upon my pants pocket, should I goof up and bring more than donation. Just my Humble Opinion.As I have shared I worked in the business for a time decades ago and in a different region but the situation is the same. EVERY provider has stories of being raped, beaten and robbed by customers. Not "sob stories", not dishonest, but simple, honest truth. I know first hand from seeing the results of such situations and in which I was far from being a "white knight". To think otherwise is to live in denial about what a truly dirty business this is regardless of your own distrust of women in general.
I have no doubt this woman was raped and beaten. Was it the guy who posted about being ripped off by her? I have no clue.
WarrenAJeffers
05-30-18, 11:43
No word from him in 3 days. Interesting. Perhaps he "rode off into the sunset" as Freedom suggested.
No word from him in 3 days. Interesting. Perhaps he "rode off into the sunset" as Freedom suggested.Who can know for sure, but from what I know, it appears as "no". I took it offline to do some checking / reactions in PM land. Conclusion: I do not think he did what was later reported.
BUT. He had said 'no reason to post on here if you make a ripoff report and then a bunch of dudes jump all over you'. He wants no angry men berating him. He said he can be vouched for by a very well known provider he frequents as a regular and she also knows many of you here. I do not know who she is, nor asked, nor want to know any more details. I am done with that conversation. I found the facts to an extent that I have made my personal decision on the matter. Then there is the case that he said he told her he was going to give her a bad review for being a ripoff (mistake to tell an esc. Of such reviews) and she responded and told him she would make a report against him to counteract. That has been done on this forum before in the past with other "actors", if I remember correctly.
I must say, I do not blame him for not posting here prior and anymore if that is what he should choose. This Alb-Schen-Troy city thread is prone to such behavior, false reports, non-factual descriptions, and attacks from time to time. That is why it was suggested some yrs back to form this off forum rant and rave thread, if memory serves me correctly. I do not see any such off forum thread in any other city but here. Wonder why? Protectivism?
I do not know of this Chloe, but I can tell you this. I would not trust her within a thousand feet. Just my personal opinion. All are free to make their own and take their own chances / risks to what ever level they are comfortable with. Remember also, drug use can cause people to do outrageous things at outrageous levels to 'thrive'. And for those who wish to be white knights, that is your choice to live with and risk. Think if it is worth it. Oddly, I have been accused as a Chloe white knight. I do not get that one. Never met her, never will. I wish her well as a human being and hope she can make the necessary life style changes to avoid such alleged drama and absolute risk. She must have her reasons for 'being here', I hope they get resolved.
BlackJacker
06-16-18, 11:06
I got an interesting text from a provider this week. I wrote a review on here and gave you guys the facts along with some opinion of service and basic information. This is so, should you chose to partake, there will be less surprises. So her question to me was why I said her "apartment was messy" in my review. And she asked why I commented on her "clean statis". So my rant is why do you guys tell the providers about this board instead of just saying, so and so, recommended them. The reviews are for your personal knowledge. IMHO. Not for perusal by provides who may want to avenge a bad review or keep track of how many provider a person may be seeing. Am I wrong on this? Are you one of the guys on this board that says I will send people to you. Give me 10 dollars off a BJ? WTF. And not just regular members but Some senior members as well. Tell me am I missing something? Then when a provider starts shit on this board some take up the sword of righteousness and that takes on another rant. So my answer to her was I said it because the place was a mess. So she created a profile now so that she can monitor. LOL. All because one of you guys sent her a link to my review. How stupid!
I got an interesting text from a provider this week. I wrote a review on here and gave you guys the facts along with some opinion of service and basic information. This is so, should you chose to partake, there will be less surprises. So her question to me was why I said her "apartment was messy" in my review. And she asked why I commented on her "clean statis". So my rant is why do you guys tell the providers about this board instead of just saying, so and so, recommended them. The reviews are for your personal knowledge. IMHO. Not for perusal by provides who may want to avenge a bad review or keep track of how many provider a person may be seeing. Am I wrong on this? Are you one of the guys on this board that says I will send people to you. Give me 10 dollars off a BJ? WTF. And not just regular members but Some senior members as well. Tell me am I missing something? Then when a provider starts shit on this board some take up the sword of righteousness and that takes on another rant. So my answer to her was I said it because the place was a mess. So she created a profile now so that she can monitor. LOL. All because one of you guys sent her a link to my review. How stupid!I feel that the main reason for this site is to tell if like it is. It is always YMMV but some factors are what they are for everyone. Sketchy neighborhoods, dirty incalls, poor hygiene. These are icebreakers for many of us. I always respect and appreciate being told the real deal of a provider and then I can make up my own mind. Please keep telling it like it is. Hammer.
The girls are always going to be unhappy with the reviews and the review boards.
Just the way it is. Mostly the kvetching comes from chicks that don't provide good service. If they did, it'd be a good review and all would be fine. But was the apt messy? According to that report, it was. She should look around and self assess.
I remember I gave a bad review to that Lithuanian girl a couple summers ago, and alll hell broke loose. But it WAS a shitty apt in a shitty location with shady MFs hanging around and it was a shitty blow. Fuck it, ya got to call it like ya see it.
The big difference falls in the 'way' some guys convey the story. Some add a little whip topping to soften the blow and others rub salt in the wound. Either way the babe will bray about it.
Some cucks will share info with the ladies hoping to 'endear' themselves to her good graces, which really helps nobody. I kinda liked the 'Premium access' idea at eccie so the general public couldn't see. It helped that dynamic a bit, but the jellyfish still spilled the beans, so. What can ya do?
Keep doing what you do. The better you get at it, the more honest you are. The more peeps will understand the real deal they are walking into. When they can trust your reports, when you post a good one for a girl her business will grow and that's good for all.
Hooks can be very short sited and hold a grudge after a bad review. Too bad. If she cleaned up her act and reached out to prove it to you, and does. You report that and she gets more calls. Fucking capitalism at its finest.
Jellyfish help nobody. Cucks need to keep the deets on the DL, simple.
Peace.
PK.
I have a question for anybody that visited Brighid a few years back. - PM. Please. I will reply tonight, gone for the day.
I have tried copy / paste, Drag and drop. But have not been able to put an image file in a message. Any one else done this? - How?
I have tried copy / paste, Drag and drop. But have not been able to put an image file in a message. Any one else done this? - How?From what I remember, you first must push image from your computer onto this site. You have a gallery. When you do this, the photo remains there amongs others for possible future use. You can delete or add from gallerh, but I think the first upload to your gallery from your computer for each new photo goes tagged with that post you are currently writing. Now, with new site since May, you must size them smaller. That is what admin had stated, until they get that glitch rectified, or not.
I have tried copy / paste, Drag and drop. But have not been able to put an image file in a message. Any one else done this? - How?After writing script, scroll down to attachments area below your text entry. If memory serves correct.
I have tried copy / paste, Drag and drop. But have not been able to put an image file in a message. Any one else done this? - How?Oh shit, I jusr re read your post. I do not think there is any way on PM to send pics. I had looked prior but for some reason that was left out of the functions / options. I wish you could also do bold or underlining of text.
You can't send attachments in PM's.
A2
I have tried copy / paste, Drag and drop. But have not been able to put an image file in a message. Any one else done this? - How?Check your PM box. I did a test for you to see and get back to me.
Oh shit, I jusr re read your post. I do not think there is any way on PM to send pics. I had looked prior but for some reason that was left out of the functions / options. I wish you could also do bold or underlining of text.
You can't send attachments in PM's.
A2Dave518 received my test PM and said all pics came through beautifully with some photos of some Florida babes. He liked!!
You cannot send directly. Must upload here in forum for MANAGE ATTACHMENTS first. Then, you may copy photo link or entire forum post link and paste it into the PM.
AccordDave
07-10-18, 14:15
Was thinking about seeing her.
Was thinking about seeing her.
I saw Tara at her incall location in Watervliet a couple of weeks ago and had a GREAT visit as I always do .
I keep getting the ads. Has anybody signed up, paid the fee and actually had some fun? Or is this a way to just collect the fee? Did any of the providers go this way during the blackout? - Dave.
AccordDave
07-13-18, 22:53
I saw Tara at her incall location in Watervliet a couple of weeks ago and had a GREAT visit as I always do .My review was killed by the system. It was long too.
Short version, she's very good, not great. If she were closer she might have become my greek provider (I had 2 girls down my way who were my absolute go to gals. They both hit their late 20's, early 30's and stopped providing! The younger one PREFERRED anal!
If I work up the energy I'll try again but this was like a marathon f-ing review. I used to do them on other sites. We had an entire farm team of UTRs down here. I still kept my top, top girl but she's ultra low volume. So as per usual, we went from plenty, to few.
AccordDave
07-14-18, 13:24
I was a little bit frustrated, thinking of what I needed to replicate the review. Thanks!
I tried and after a lot of alleged interested women for NSA, I paid. Nothing occurred.
So. YMMV or maybe changed. Maybe more esc. Went there, I would not expect any FWB NSA hookup for fun there though.
I keep getting the ads. Has anybody signed up, paid the fee and actually had some fun? Or is this a way to just collect the fee? Did any of the providers go this way during the blackout? - Dave.
I keep getting the ads. Has anybody signed up, paid the fee and actually had some fun? Or is this a way to just collect the fee? Did any of the providers go this way during the blackout? - Dave.More than 10 yrs ago it was good. I gave it up when it dried up for me. But the monthly fee was steep! About 3 yrs ago a few couples I know were active on there and meeting other cpls but not so much single guys. What else is new.
Throw a few bucks at it and give it a go and let us know how it went!
I found out today that even our City Councilmen are mongers. According to our paper, one was arrested for "allegedly patronizing a prostitute in Glenville" according to the article she was not a paid informant. The article said the case came to the Amsterdam police, then they referred it to the State Troopers. I wonder three things, 1. - What were the details of how case was referred to Amsterdam then to State Troopers? And 2. If she was not a paid informant did she use him as a get out of jail free card? And 3. If I call him up will he share digits?
I found out today that even our City Councilmen are mongers. According to our paper, one was arrested for "allegedly patronizing a prostitute in Glenville" according to the article she was not a paid informant. The article said the case came to the Amsterdam police, then they referred it to the State Troopers. I wonder three things, 1. - What were the details of how case was referred to Amsterdam then to State Troopers? And 2. If she was not a paid informant did she use him as a get out of jail free card? And 3. If I call him up will he share digits?Wondering which one it was.
The referral to St. P: olice is due to jurisdiction limits of APD and MCSD. Different county, therefore NYSP matter for investigation.
Curious as to how referred. Maybe he forced greek against her want? Or. Maybe a set-up? Probably someone told NYSP to watch him due to political shit in Amsterdam, then APD investigated to point where they got info but had to refer. He may have been watched. OR, He was caught you / found out in normal and random obsrvations of LEP there and on places such as YesBkPg, SkipTG and here.
Wondering which one it was.
The referral to St. P: olice is due to jurisdiction limits of APD and MCSD. Different county, therefore NYSP matter for investigation.
Curious as to how referred. Maybe he forced greek against her want? Or. Maybe a set-up? Probably someone told NYSP to watch him due to political shit in Amsterdam, then APD investigated to point where they got info but had to refer. He may have been watched. OR, He was caught you / found out in normal and random obsrvations of LEP there and on places such as YesBkPg, SkipTG and here.Read recently that this Alderman's woes were involving women from Glenville coming to his house and "nudity, fondeling and stomache punching". Stomache punching? WTF? Yes, he does weigh about 400# from photo. How is stomache punching a sexual act? Also, I think Topless / nude house cleaning / maid svc. Is legal in NYS. So, only potential "fondeling" while someone was Nude is at issue? Who is to say that that part was not free and consentual, as long as the female had a broom or dush brush in her hand? OR was "vacuuming"/ suction cleaning at the time! LOL.
Wondering how many of the mongers here are on that list of 20 or so recent group message from Asian Yates!! Even more amusing is one of the names showed up as a Doc. !! Not sure if it is the case, but if so, good to have a top Doc. Amongst us mongers.
And BTW did anyone get to checkout the girl, "A very beautiful one" as they claimed?
Peace and stay safe.
Vic.
I found out today that even our City Councilmen are mongers. According to our paper, one was arrested for "allegedly patronizing a prostitute in Glenville" according to the article she was not a paid informant. The article said the case came to the Amsterdam police, then they referred it to the State Troopers. I wonder three things, 1. - What were the details of how case was referred to Amsterdam then to State Troopers? And 2. If she was not a paid informant did she use him as a get out of jail free card? And 3. If I call him up will he share digits?What happened with that case? I can't seem to find the end results of it anywhere on the internet. Maybe I'm just not searching the right place.
I'll get right out in front of this. I recently inhibited the account of a senior who posts a shit ton because he was telling people that a "noobie" was "probably" a cop. This "noobie" had his account registered here since 2015 he just didn't post much. When I pointed it out this idiot doubled down and says he "knows" there are LEO just lurking on this forum. Guys have been saying that since the second day this forum opened and we know EXACTLY how many guys have been arrested off of a sting from this forum. That number would be one and it was never a prostitution sting, it was always a pedophile sting. They moved the convo off the forum immediatly so it could take place on THEIR servers. Why? Because EVERYTHING here is hearsay and inadmissible. Why didn't they bother with a prostitution sting? Because like most states in the state of New York patronizing a prostitute is a Class A misdemeanor. You guys are not DPR, this is not Silk Road, there are no "task forces" looking to roll you up for buying a blowjob.
Of the two million posts put on this forum how many have been used in court? I'll give you a hint, it's a round number. ZERO. How many will ever be used in court? Same number. Same, same PM's.
I don't care if you want to have circle jerks at Deni's and pretend you are hardened criminals but until you have proof keep bullshit like that to yourself.
For the record I don't care who you are, I don't care if you were the second motherfucker that signed up on this forum, spread that bullshit, and you are fucking gone.
A2
I'll get right out in front of this. I recently inhibited the account of a senior who posts a shit ton because he was telling people that a "noobie" was "probably" a cop. This "noobie" had his account registered here since 2015 he just didn't post much. When I pointed it out this idiot doubled down and says he "knows" there are LEO just lurking on this forum. Guys have been saying that since the second day this forum opened and we know EXACTLY how many guys have been arrested off of a sting from this forum. That number would be one and it was never a prostitution sting, it was always a pedophile sting. They moved the convo off the forum immediatly so it could take place on THEIR servers. Why? Because EVERYTHING here is hearsay and inadmissible. Why didn't they bother with a prostitution sting? Because like most states in the state of New York patronizing a prostitute is a Class A misdemeanor. You guys are not DPR, this is not Silk Road, there are no "task forces" looking to roll you up for buying a blowjob.
Of the two million posts put on this forum how many have been used in court? I'll give you a hint, it's a round number. ZERO. How many will ever be used in court? Same number. Same, same PM's.
I don't care if you want to have circle jerks at Deni's and pretend you are hardened criminals but until you have proof keep bullshit like that to yourself.
For the record I don't care who you are, I don't care if you were the second motherfucker that signed up on this forum, spread that bullshit, and you are fucking gone.
There are a lot of obstacles hobbyists must deal with in this game. Concerns about whether or not a provider is setting him up for a rip off. Whether or not she is clean or may have something communicable.
Whether or not she may be fighting chemical demons -a fight a hobbyist could be dragged into through no fault of his own. These issues are in and of themselves bad enough.
But-in a way-we all know that these things are possible and could happen, so we take the necessary precautions. Keeping in mind that its part of the game.
But how does one prepare for something like this? Especially if he's new? Having his chances of establishing good rapport with providers ruined before he ever has a chance to meet them because someone has decided to spread unfounded rumors about the new guy before he's even gotten his feet wet in the game? What would possess someone to sabotage the flow of a man just trying to get a nut off?
There are a lot of obstacles hobbyists must deal with in this game. Concerns about whether or not a provider is setting him up for a rip off. Whether or not she is clean or may have something communicable.
Whether or not she may be fighting chemical demons -a fight a hobbyist could be dragged into through no fault of his own. These issues are in and of themselves bad enough.
But-in a way-we all know that these things are possible and could happen, so we take the necessary precautions. Keeping in mind that its part of the game.
But how does one prepare for something like this? Especially if he's new? Having his chances of establishing good rapport with providers ruined before he ever has a chance to meet them because someone has decided to spread unfounded rumors about the new guy before he's even gotten his feet wet in the game? What would possess someone to sabotage the flow of a man just trying to get a nut off?Because he's an asshole that thinks hazing people is ok. There aren't many of them but they can ruin a forum quicker than the smell of dogshit ruins a picnic. I told him that the account was several years old and then he doubled down on the douchbaggery.
I won't stand for bullying in this forum unless I'm the one doing it.
A2
What happened with that case? I can't seem to find the end results of it anywhere on the internet. Maybe I'm just not searching the right place.He has a lawyer, so I am guessing that he will end up pleading guilty to a lesser charge. But he has already been replaced on the council. - Dave.
So it is looking highly probable that I will be permanently relocating to a large city west of the Mississippi which will remain anonymous. I checked out the postings for that location on this site and others and lord, it looks like a dead zone from the perspective of this business. Some of the most recent postings I have found were from. 1999! Again, multiple sites. That is for all "avenues" of action, SW, agencies, independents. I guess the move will be good for the wallet!!
So it is looking highly probable that I will be permanently relocating to a large city west of the Mississippi which will remain anonymous. I checked out the postings for that location on this site and others and lord, it looks like a dead zone from the perspective of this business. Some of the most recent postings I have found were from. 1999! Again, multiple sites. That is for all "avenues" of action, SW, agencies, independents. I guess the move will be good for the wallet!!Try POF and tinder. Hopfully there's enough free ass to keep you occupied. Best of luck!
So it is looking highly probable that I will be permanently relocating to a large city west of the Mississippi which will remain anonymous. I checked out the postings for that location on this site and others and lord, it looks like a dead zone from the perspective of this business. Some of the most recent postings I have found were from. 1999! Again, multiple sites. That is for all "avenues" of action, SW, agencies, independents. I guess the move will be good for the wallet!!EC depending on where you end up, and or SB and other sugar sites. If it helps. TTF.
EC depending on where you end up, and or SB and other sugar sites. If it helps. TTF.I hadn't actually check out any provider sites yet. I wanted to see what the mongers were saying in the area and either they never heard of the internet or they don't exist.
So it is looking highly probable that I will be permanently relocating to a large city west of the Mississippi which will remain anonymous. I checked out the postings for that location on this site and others and lord, it looks like a dead zone from the perspective of this business. Some of the most recent postings I have found were from. 1999! Again, multiple sites. That is for all "avenues" of action, SW, agencies, independents. I guess the move will be good for the wallet!!Hopefully you will find some UTR provider and live happily ever after. LOL!
I hadn't actually check out any provider sites yet. I wanted to see what the mongers were saying in the area and either they never heard of the internet or they don't exist.Your task is set!
Get out there and start the conversation bud.
Post your experiences out there no matter what responses, or lack of, you get. You may open up a whole area to the discussion.
Back in 2002-2004 there was only a handful of guys having this little coffee klatch. Now look where we are.
Lots of chatter in Texas, you may find something to talk about in your new spot and there may be others just waiting to talk back.
Best of luck and best wishes for good fortune to you!
Peace.
PK.
Your task is set!
Get out there and start the conversation bud.
Post your experiences out there no matter what responses, or lack of, you get. You may open up a whole area to the discussion.
Back in 2002-2004 there was only a handful of guys having this little coffee klatch. Now look where we are.
Lots of chatter in Texas, you may find something to talk about in your new spot and there may be others just waiting to talk back.
Best of luck and best wishes for good fortune to you!
Peace.
PK.I have been in this for a long time both pre- and post-internet and around the country long before moving to the CP region. You are right, lots of places down in Texas were very very active 20 years ago and I assume they still are. On the other hand, there are some other places that I checked out and post long, long ago and I believe my ancient posts are still considered recent! LOL Like talking to a wall.
But I do get your point.
It's not a done deal yet but 90% there with excellent reasons for following through despite the seeming dearth of hobby opportunities. If worse comes to worse, I will not be too far from areas I know well that will present an abundance of opportunities. But who knows, perhaps you will still be seeing my posts here a year from now.
I do appreciate your well-wishes and thank you for all the years of excellent reporting, great humor, and keeping the collective feet to the fire here.
So it is looking highly probable that I will be permanently relocating to a large city west of the Mississippi which will remain anonymous. I checked out the postings for that location on this site and others and lord, it looks like a dead zone from the perspective of this business. Some of the most recent postings I have found were from. 1999! Again, multiple sites. That is for all "avenues" of action, SW, agencies, independents. I guess the move will be good for the wallet!!Thanks Matt for your contributions to this site. Your comments and reviews have been helpful and insightful over the years.
Thanks Matt for your contributions to this site. Your comments and reviews have been helpful and insightful over the years.I am honored by your words (and PKs). I wish you both continuous happy hunting. Of course, it still might be a bit premature as the ink isn't dried yet and I have learned not to trust anything until that last moment. But hopefully all will go smoothly and I will be headed back to where the sun actually shines.
Fuck Adult World! It's always a waste of time.
Regular Member.
Re: Elaborate.
Quote Originally Posted by Sparky518.
This is your pm Message to me:
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The P in PM stands for Private, don't post them.
A2
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The P in PM stands for Private, don't post them.
A2[ / QUOTE].
Not sure whether or not my PM message was received, since there was no response to the question I was asked and I answered in PM.
I didn't know how else to confirm receipt of same except to post. I accept your telling me it was a mistake. My apologies.
I brought it to Rants and Raves so as not to clog the forums with (BS) anything not relevant to the forums discussion.
I was trying to avoid any conflict and / or misunderstandings with this hobbyist. He seemed confused and offended by my reply to his post and PM'ed me.
I should not have responded to his pm Being considerate didn't work out.
My bad. Live and learn.
Some of you guys have some hard heads. I hope it was worth it.
I found out today that even our City Councilmen are mongers. According to our paper, one was arrested for "allegedly patronizing a prostitute in Glenville" according to the article she was not a paid informant. The article said the case came to the Amsterdam police, then they referred it to the State Troopers. I wonder three things, 1. - What were the details of how case was referred to Amsterdam then to State Troopers? And 2. If she was not a paid informant did she use him as a get out of jail free card? And 3. If I call him up will he share digits? - Dave 518.
What happened with that case? I can't seem to find the end results of it anywhere on the internet. Maybe I'm just not searching the right place. - Raige 614.
He has a lawyer, so I am guessing that he will end up pleading guilty to a lesser charge. But he has already been replaced on the council. - Dave.
Last update. He has gone to trial, pled down, paid a $1100.00 fine. His lawyer says case is now closed. I see that stomach punching is expensive. I'll stick to a regular BJ. - Dave.
I found out today that even our City Councilmen are mongers. According to our paper, one was arrested for "allegedly patronizing a prostitute in Glenville" according to the article she was not a paid informant. The article said the case came to the Amsterdam police, then they referred it to the State Troopers. I wonder three things, 1. - What were the details of how case was referred to Amsterdam then to State Troopers? And 2. If she was not a paid informant did she use him as a get out of jail free card? And 3. If I call him up will he share digits? - Dave 518.
What happened with that case? I can't seem to find the end results of it anywhere on the internet. Maybe I'm just not searching the right place. - Raige 614.
He has a lawyer, so I am guessing that he will end up pleading guilty to a lesser charge. But he has already been replaced on the council. - Dave.
Last update. He has gone to trial, pled down, paid a $1100.00 fine. His lawyer says case is now closed. I see that stomach punching is expensive. I'll stick to a regular BJ. - Dave.I'm wondering if would not have been thrown in jail had he not had political connections.
Thanks for the update, Dave518.
I'm wondering if would not have been thrown in jail had he not had political connections.
Thanks for the update, Dave518.You generally don't go to jail for soliciting a prostitute unless you did something else on top of that. You pay a fine and sometimes have to take a Saturday 6 hour class on the evils of prostitution in lieu of anything else. Being a pimp is whole different matter.
You generally don't go to jail for soliciting a prostitute unless you did something else on top of that. You pay a fine and sometimes have to take a Saturday 6 hour class on the evils of prostitution in lieu of anything else. Being a pimp is whole different matter.Agree you not going to get jail time etc. The punishment is having your name in the paper for spouse, coworkers, etc to see.
You generally don't go to jail for soliciting a prostitute unless you did something else on top of that. You pay a fine and sometimes have to take a Saturday 6 hour class on the evils of prostitution in lieu of anything else. Being a pimp is whole different matter.Can I find out where that class is? - Not that I will attend. Just thinking the guys on the way out might share some digits. After six hours they must be rehabbed. - LOL.
Can I find out where that class is? - Not that I will attend. Just thinking the guys on the way out might share some digits. After six hours they must be rehabbed. - LOL.That is truly innovative, "outside the box" thinking!
Ok here we go again? Anyone know what is going on with ECCIE? Offline.
OldGuy0228
12-17-18, 00:18
Ok here we go again? Anyone know what is going on with ECCIE? Offline.Same problem here.
TheRocketman91
12-17-18, 09:22
Ok here we go again? Anyone know what is going on with ECCIE? Offline.Thanks thought it was me. LOL.
WarrenAJeffers
12-19-18, 09:33
Thanks thought it was me. LOL.The site still seems to be down. Something's got to be up. Has anyone heard any news reports? Last spring when sites were getting shut down it was big news.
The site still seems to be down. Something's got to be up. Has anyone heard any news reports? Last spring when sites were getting shut down it was big news.I've been searching the internet since yesterday looking for news about this. So far-nothing. Last spring, I thought that BP was the main target of their aggression, something that has been in their crosshairs for years. Seeing other sites drop off caught me by surprise. Hopefully its just a technical glitch. In any event, someone connected to the site should at least announce something, rather than keeping us in the dark guessing.
EGrayUpstate2
12-19-18, 13:36
The site still seems to be down. Something's got to be up. Has anyone heard any news reports? Last spring when sites were getting shut down it was big news.Apparently eccie made an official post it was a voluntary shutdown. It sounds like they either had a breach of identification or they were contacted by federal LEO.
Eccie_net.
At eccie_net.
Dec 17.
More.
http://Eccie.net has voluntarily suspended operations while all options are considered. The safety of our staff and members is always our primary concern.
The site still seems to be down. Something's got to be up. Has anyone heard any news reports? Last spring when sites were getting shut down it was big news.Pretty sure its gone for good.
Sorry.
Peace.
PK.
WarrenAJeffers
12-19-18, 15:34
Pretty sure its gone for good.
Sorry.
Peace.
PK.Holy shit. What got 'them this time? Surprised I don't see any buzz about it over the internet.
I would only be speculating, But I assume the risks outweighed the rewards.
Peace.
PK.
If we should start to exchange our hobby emails? Last time the lights went out, I was totally in the dark same as every one else. I would be willing to start a list with your handles. Then if something happens we could stay in touch. Something like my family used to have and called a round robin. Or if someone wants to jump in, I will send my email.
EGrayUpstate2
12-21-18, 10:49
If we should start to exchange our hobby emails? Last time the lights went out, I was totally in the dark same as every one else. I would be willing to start a list with your handles. Then if something happens we could stay in touch. Something like my family used to have and called a round robin. Or if someone wants to jump in, I will send my email.A couple of us did that when FISA, etc. Was first passed. Not really a list but just like generic hobby contact info in case stuff never came back. I know Rusty and I have exchanged a lot of info together so we stayed in touch. I don't hobby nearly as much as before but I like to stay on the up just in case. It's getting really hard out there.
To be honest, I feel worse for the girls. We are all, from what it seems on the surface, moderately successful white guys. With some exceptions. Not a whole lot bad is going to happen to us if this all dies. However, statistically, when the internet 'turns its back' so to speak on these girls it spells bad times for them. That's when they lose control and pimps move in, clientele becomes more dangerous, more risk. Most of them are very nice. It's too bad. They can't survive on just the few of us who are pretty good to them.
A couple of us did that when FISA, etc. Was first passed. Not really a list but just like generic hobby contact info in case stuff never came back. I know Rusty and I have exchanged a lot of info together so we stayed in touch. I don't hobby nearly as much as before but I like to stay on the up just in case. It's getting really hard out there.
To be honest, I feel worse for the girls. We are all, from what it seems on the surface, moderately successful white guys. With some exceptions. Not a whole lot bad is going to happen to us if this all dies. However, statistically, when the internet 'turns its back' so to speak on these girls it spells bad times for them. That's when they lose control and pimps move in, clientele becomes more dangerous, more risk. Most of them are very nice. It's too bad. They can't survive on just the few of us who are pretty good to them.I'd be up for sharing info via email. Agree, if all the sites go down it isn't very good for any of us. Especially the girls.
Good idea,
Let me know who's volunteering and I will PM them. I would volunteer myself except I don't get to hobby much nowadays.
Thanks in advance.
Vic.
If we should start to exchange our hobby emails? Last time the lights went out, I was totally in the dark same as every one else. I would be willing to start a list with your handles. Then if something happens we could stay in touch. Something like my family used to have and called a round robin. Or if someone wants to jump in, I will send my email.
I only have four mongers so far.
If we should start to exchange our hobby emails? Last time the lights went out, I was totally in the dark same as every one else. I would be willing to start a list with your handles. Then if something happens we could stay in touch. Something like my family used to have and called a round robin. Or if someone wants to jump in, I will send my email.
I only have four mongers so far.Same as it has been for many years, lokipkottoman@yahoo.com.
Peace.
PK.
EGrayUpstate2
12-28-18, 12:18
internetstrangers28@gmail.com
Just got an email says eccie is back online.
Sweet!
PK.
The weekly update was sent out. If you contacted me and did not get one or if you woud like to receive / be on the list, contact me and we can make it happen.
I think we are all in agreement about the hands in this ad. http://albany.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/lets-have-some-fun/018507955473 - But my question is the guy in SJ's ads one of us? I have taken a few pictures and some video of providers, but have stayed away from anyone that wanted a copy, just for that reason. She may have his permission, but just not taking that chance. http://albany.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_e/sj-looking-for-now-or-later/729552025378.
EGrayUpstate2
01-13-19, 11:54
I think we are all in agreement about the hands in this ad. http://albany.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/lets-have-some-fun/018507955473 - But my question is the guy in SJ's ads one of us? I have taken a few pictures and some video of providers, but have stayed away from anyone that wanted a copy, just for that reason. She may have his permission, but just not taking that chance. http://albany.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_e/sj-looking-for-now-or-later/729552025378.He's also very obviously bareback.
WarrenAJeffers
01-15-19, 19:18
He's also very obviously bareback.It's probably that AlwaysBare dude from the other site. I noticed she took that one pic down from her ad.
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