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https://members.seeking.com/messages/inbox/83544734-bc07-46ec-9b10-403fbf08e83d
Watch out, user Ashanti000 is a confirmed ROB. She's gorgeous and very convincing, good con artist. Created a diversion, stole my money and left.
She used phone # (702) XXX-4197 - posting in case she changes usernames but keeps the same #. Do not be fooled by her!
This one has mental and attitude issues, and uses cocaine. She told me she doesn't like people! Experience was not good. I would avoid.
https://members.seeking.com/messages/inbox/6414cae3-933a-4f5e-ba56-8c4f6a94d0c3
https://members.seeking.com/messages/inbox/83544734-bc07-46ec-9b10-403fbf08e83d
Watch out, user Ashanti000 is a confirmed ROB. She's gorgeous and very convincing, good con artist. Created a diversion, stole my money and left.
She used phone # (702) XXX-4197 - posting in case she changes usernames but keeps the same #. Do not be fooled by her!Not her profile.
This one has mental and attitude issues, and uses cocaine. She told me she doesn't like people! Experience was not good. I would avoid.
https://members.seeking.com/messages/inbox/6414cae3-933a-4f5e-ba56-8c4f6a94d0c3Links to your messages will not work. You have to send the link to the girls profile.
https://members.seeking.com/member/5e964c9c-95c8-4fcf-b1c2-edfbcf1d36ac
Chubby former stripper and career SB. Openly admits she doesn't have a job and does very well for herself.
Told her 300 for dinner and a romantic evening, she agrees. I ask for bare, she says she'll decide after she meets and talks to me.
We get dinner and then go upstairs, and she asks me what my budget is. I tell her we already discussed this, it was 300. She gaslights me by saying no, 300 was just for dinner, if I want fun it's more. And she never does BJ without a condom, much less sex, so she's going to need a lot.
I get sick of her and kick her out, she tells me she hopes I get an STD while walking out the door.
https://members.seeking.com/member/12f0428d-1332-4cb9-a03d-0cf2771a1ef6
Responds back to my message on SA and says she's heading out of town, only available tonight. It's literally 10:30 PM, so you know this girl isn't looking for a dinner date. She gives me her number and I text her, then she insists on calling instead of texting.
It's super noisy where she's at, she says she's at a bar at Mandalay Bay. Says she has another hotel that we can go to to meet up and have fun. I tell her I have a room at a nice place, she can come here. She says okay, then tells me she "charges 600 an hour, or 500 an hour for 2+ hours. " She's a pro hooker / casino girl, probably was sitting at a bar at Mandalay looking for dudes to pay her to come up to their room.
I tell her I can't do that, normally I do 500 for a dinner date and a few hours of sex. She says she can't do that. I ask if she can do raw, and she instantly declines. Bid her good luck and send her on her way.
https://members.seeking.com/member/9aa6b44d-8d5f-4a8d-96fa-6fe525ae9ff7
Hit her up, set up a dinner date and offer 500 allowance, which again is more than what I see most offering here. She says she usually goes for 1 k, surprised I'm offering 500 in Vegas. I tell her I can do more than 500 if she can do bare and sleep over. She responds with:
"Never. Good luck potentially catching hiv you've lost your mind having sex with no condom in Las Vegas".
2nd Profile: Paris979. Can't link her profile, she blocked me too quick.
Asks for 1k, I ask for bare and overnight date. Get this back:
"I do not do that sorry no exceptions. And no good
Luck w those high demands and cheap prices you're in Vegas babe remember that before you lowball. It's disgusting"
https://members.seeking.com/member/98595005-4898-4b4b-a3a4-51bf5d22a73a
Offered 500 for intimate dinner date, she says she needs more. I ask her how much, she says 1 k for intimate dates. I tell her okay if she's down for BB and stays overnight. She says she needs more than 1 k for bare and overnight. I tell her fine, I can do 2 k if she stays 24 h. She says:
"Well you said you want to spend a whole 24 hours together just for 2 k. My hour is 1 k so to me it's not even worth it".
HollywoodGuy
12-24-22, 16:35
https://members.seeking.com/member/9aa6b44d-8d5f-4a8d-96fa-6fe525ae9ff7
Hit her up, set up a dinner date and offer 500 allowance, which again is more than what I see most offering here. She says she usually goes for 1 k, surprised I'm offering 500 in Vegas. I tell her I can do more than 500 if she can do bare and sleep over. She responds with:
"Never. Good luck potentially catching hiv you've lost your mind having sex with no condom in Las Vegas".
2nd Profile: Paris979. Can't link her profile, she blocked me too quick.
Asks for 1k, I ask for bare and overnight date. Get this back:
"I do not do that sorry no exceptions. And no good
Luck w those high demands and cheap prices you're in Vegas babe remember that before you lowball. It's disgusting"I always let girls know I am a local. Just in case they were hoping to get tourist rates.
I always let girls know I am a local. Just in case they were hoping to get tourist rates.They wouldn't offer you a different rate if they thought you were local, if they were willing to negotiate then they would have come down when I told them I can't do whatever they were asking unless they did bare + 12 h /24 h. They just played hardball and got nasty and called me names once I stuck to my guns. And they didn't relent, they'd rather just have nothing than fuck bare for multiple hours for whatever rate they were asking.
https://members.seeking.com/member/34e71f10-f707-47f0-9614-94c152c5c7f4
Really boring, no personality and lame in bed. Refused to give BBBJ even though she was okay with BBFS. Extremely lazy when riding, doesn't like getting her legs pinned back in missionary, overall bad time. Probably a pro as well, got her to agree to 600 for 2 h, if she's willing to do hourly rate than most likely an escort.
Due to how shitty she was in bed, I was bored and couldn't cum after about 30 min. I told her I'd give her 400 and send her on her way. She protested a bit and said she needed 600, but eventually relented and left with 400.
https://members.seeking.com/member/235ee42a-be0f-43fa-842a-e665e016cf55
Offered 500 for intimate dinner date. Get this back:
"Oh sorry no, Im not a hooker. Thats about as disrespectful and cheap as you can treat a woman! Id much rather take the time to get to know you and come up with a respectable monthly allowance."
https://members.seeking.com/member/6d3781c5-8f46-4feb-904d-9d45b6ea2fd4
Offered 300 intimate dinner date cause she looks like she's chubby. She tells me nothing less than 1000. I tell her okay, bare and 4 hours in the room. She gives me:
"No I don't do anything sexual this is specifically for my time"
Profile name Pretty Chick. Can't link because I'm blocked. Her last profile was Tiny Dancer, I posted about her.
Ended up messaging her, didn't know it was the same person until she gave me the same number. She didn't remember me, gave me her number. I requested her private pics, and get this back:
"Ru just going to waste my time?? You already saw them never texted and now your blocked".
Not sure if this "girl" is a scammer, or just severely mentally retarded. Has private pics and will block you if you request to see them. Her number is (702) 552-2225.
https://members.seeking.com/member/1c682c46-6530-4678-b32c-ffa914441b5e
Really nice girl, works in retail but wants to get out and do something else. Not as attractive as her pics, she has a gap in her teeth and her nose is kinda big. Didn't end up going to room, gave her some money for dinner and told her it wasn't the right fit.
https://members.seeking.com/member/d6b35408-189c-4aeb-84d0-5a6148038aae
Texted and offered her 500 for intimate dinner date. Her response:
"Christmas is a big personal holiday for me, so I won't be available. :)
I've been comfortable with 500 for meet and greet date but for more involved I've been in the 2-3k range"
https://members.seeking.com/member/e8a27f01-d413-44d0-93c8-b5bcc9754b97
Offered 500 for intimate dinner date. She tells me "my ppm is 1000." I say okay, can she do bare and sleep over? Her response:
"Condom is always necessary. Anything longer than 2 hours requires a deposit and yes I can retest if you'd like"
https://members.seeking.com/member/4b8d2454-9bb4-489f-9010-a092f3a74bdf
Texted her, she said she remembered me and that we couldn't come to an agreement. I tell her let's talk, maybe we can work something out. Turns out she won't do BB, and won't consider anything less than 1 k PPM.
Yea she's right, we weren't able to come to an agreement.
https://members.seeking.com/member/4b8d2454-9bb4-489f-9010-a092f3a74bdf
Texted her, she said she remembered me and that we couldn't come to an agreement. I tell her let's talk, maybe we can work something out. Turns out she won't do BB, and won't consider anything less than 1 k PPM.
Yea she's right, we weren't able to come to an agreement.If it was 1 K for a couple of hours of fun time, sure I'd sign up.
Shame I'm banned but oh well.
If it was 1 K for a couple of hours of fun time, sure I'd sign up.
Shame I'm banned but oh well.I was banned as well. Just got a new account with a different email address and handle name. Back on seeking with no problems.
If it was 1 K for a couple of hours of fun time, sure I'd sign up.
Shame I'm banned but oh well.I'd pay her 1 k as well if it was BBFS, I can't cum with condoms on.
https://members.seeking.com/member/df375e44-408f-4965-9d75-084a1338ebfc
Wanted 600 for an intimate dinner date. I asked if she could do bare for that, she said no it would be more. Asked how much, said 1 k. I asked if she could stay the whole evening for 1 k, in my mind being something like 6 pm - 12 am. She agreed. We actually ended up meeting days earlier than originally agreed, and it was for lunch, so I asked her to stay for the whole afternoon and she agreed as well. Came over and I got room service and we talked, then went to the bedroom.
Sex is lackluster, she's got major resting ***** face. Body is very nice, small spinner. Couldn't get me to cum, but we keep fucking and she ends up squirting on my sheets in reverse CG. Told her to keep riding, and after a while I finally creampied her.
She immediately gets up, showers, and makes to leave. She comes out and starts getting dressed, I ask her where she's going. She says she's got to go, and I remind her she promised to stay for the whole afternoon. She says "Oh, I didn't think you meant the WHOLE afternoon!" and starts saying she's got stuff to do. I'm annoyed at this point, and gave her a little less to get her out of my hair. She's upset, says we agreed on 1 k, I told her she agreed to be here for more time. She ends up leaving, and I was in a suite so I didn't follow her out the door, was just cleaning up in the bedroom and throwing the wet sheets on the ground, calling housekeeping, etc.
I come out and nothing is amiss, but the next day, I realize my bottle of cologne is missing from the desk in the living area. I don't have solid proof she stole it and not a housekeeper, but my money is on her.
Next thing you know, I'm browsing Eros since AVN's are coming and I want to see which pornstars are available to fuck, and who do I find?
https://www.eros.com/nevada/las_vegas/files/3595294.htm?cat=32
Almost definitely not someone stealing her pics, since she's not famous enough to find on the internet. Those pics also aren't on her IG, which she showed me.
HollywoodGuy
12-30-22, 01:49
https://members.seeking.com/member/df375e44-408f-4965-9d75-084a1338ebfc
Wanted 600 for an intimate dinner date. I asked if she could do bare for that, she said no it would be more. Asked how much, said 1 k. I asked if she could stay the whole evening for 1 k, in my mind being something like 6 pm - 12 am. She agreed. We actually ended up meeting days earlier than originally agreed, and it was for lunch, so I asked her to stay for the whole afternoon and she agreed as well. Came over and I got room service and we talked, then went to the bedroom.
Sex is lackluster, she's got major resting ***** face. Body is very nice, small spinner. Couldn't get me to cum, but we keep fucking and she ends up squirting on my sheets in reverse CG. Told her to keep riding, and after a while I finally creampied her.
She immediately gets up, showers, and makes to leave. She comes out and starts getting dressed, I ask her where she's going. She says she's got to go, and I remind her she promised to stay for the whole afternoon. She says "Oh, I didn't think you meant the WHOLE afternoon!" and starts saying she's got stuff to do. I'm annoyed at this point, and gave her a little less to get her out of my hair. She's upset, says we agreed on 1 k, I told her she agreed to be here for more time. She ends up leaving, and I was in a suite so I didn't follow her out the door, was just cleaning up in the bedroom and throwing the wet sheets on the ground, calling housekeeping, etc.
I come out and nothing is amiss, but the next day, I realize my bottle of cologne is missing from the desk in the living area. I don't have solid proof she stole it and not a housekeeper, but my money is on her.
I am not in the high roller world. But I do have a few simple things I have learned over the years. One is to get an exact time frame for any date. Like to the minute. I usually do 1 hour dates knowing if they are pros they are hoping to ditch in maybe 30 minutes. Sometimes I,ll let them leave after 45 minutes. And sometimes they overstay. But as in any sales agreement never have any grey areas that could interpreted in more than one way. And if necessary have them repeat it back to you exactly as it was explained and more than once if need be. Get in txt and save the txt just in case.
I am not in the high roller world. But I do have a few simple things I have learned over the years. One is to get an exact time frame for any date. Like to the minute. I usually do 1 hour dates knowing if they are pros they are hoping to ditch in maybe 30 minutes. Sometimes I,ll let them leave after 45 minutes. And sometimes they overstay. But as in any sales agreement never have any grey areas that could interpreted in more than one way. And if necessary have them repeat it back to you exactly as it was explained and more than once if need be. Get in txt and save the txt just in case.I do that already. I usually tell them something like "I don't like rushed dates, so can we do dinner + at least X hours in the room?
50% of the time, the girl gets weirded out by mentioning specific hours, other half are okay. Either way, specifics haven't stopped low-effort walkouts, they just make some excuse about being tired, or that they're sore, or whatever. For this specific girl, she used the "oh babe I don't like to put a time limit on dates, I want it to feel natural." Usually a scammer line, but I love me some spinner and she's small, thin, and just my type, so I said fuck it.
I've fought some of them, like told them we agreed on X hours and if they leave now they're not getting allowance. I did this in one of my previous reviews, it's the one where I talked about her stealing my shoes. That's basically the best outcome, getting cussed out by the girl and told I'm a fat ugly POS who couldn't get pussy without paying, etc, while they stomp out the door with no money. One girl back home in DC told me she'd get her "boys" to jump me, and that she'd expose me to everybody because she found my LinkedIn. Another physically attacked me when I took the cash I had on the dresser and put it back in my pocket after she was a deadfish. Like literally grabbed and clawed me. I shoved her back a couple times but she kept coming. I shoved her really hard and she hit the dresser, hit her shoulder and the side of her head, but still kept coming. I knew at that point if I didn't give the money, I'd have to knock her out or something, and I'm not about to have an unconscious girl in my hotel room. Ended up throwing the bills at her and leaving while she was picking them up.
Other times, I've tried to force them to stay, and some still do because they want the money. But, the experience is still bad. I can only cum maybe 25% of the time when I fuck pussies raw anyway, and that's if the girl is good at sex. Some deadfish ***** that is rushing and you know wants to be out of the room, there's 0% chance I nut, so it's literally just lose lose for both of us, I have to sit there watching their angry face while they lazily ride me, and they have to be there when they don't want to. Better to just get them out.
https://members.seeking.com/member/2b5e9b4c-5058-4418-9233-2aff71d73127
Told her 500 no condom, she agrees. Meeting time comes, she ghosts. Hits me up later, gaslights me by saying I never confirmed. I'm horny so give her another shot that night. She says she wants to bring a GF, 400 each for 3 hours. I agree, as long as she is okay with bare too. They confirm. Meeting time comes, says they want a condom. I tell them to eat shit.
Fucking wasted 2 appointments I could have made with other girls. Fucking hate cunts like that. Obvious hardcore pros.
https://members.seeking.com/member/801ac14b-cacd-4803-956d-3bfec95bc727
Extremely hot. Very wet, very submissive in bed. However, extremely difficult to schedule with. Cams during certain days, then takes forever to get ready. Also hates planning things out, and will resist attempts for you to make plans. Basically, only see her if you're local and have tons of free time for whenever she's finally able to get together.
Also, 1 k PPM BBFS. Will not take anything less, and does not like long dates, so dinner + 1 fuck in the room is what she says she's used to.
HollywoodGuy
01-05-23, 18:46
https://members.seeking.com/member/4e4cc20c-1a59-4232-a636-eeb109afedba
"An hour is 450, I'd love to get together if your free and available".
https://members.seeking.com/member/995482da-535e-44c1-b30c-01f4db379664
I offered 500 PPM because she looked like a hot, fit blonde, and she agreed. Then brought up BBFS and she balked, acted bitchy and I had to sweet talk her and tell her I can show her tests. Finally agreed to it.
Showed up and was fatter in person. Also really stupid and not great at conversation. Went to dinner at STK and it was miserable. Afterwards, we went upstairs, and she was terrible in bed too. Kind of lazy, didn't want to fuck for too long. I think we may have been in bed for less than an hour before she tapped out and said no more, put her clothes on.
Would not repeat for any reason.
HolyStone1975
01-06-23, 23:21
https://members.seeking.com/member/995482da-535e-44c1-b30c-01f4db379664
I offered 500 PPM because she looked like a hot, fit blonde, and she agreed. Then brought up BBFS and she balked, acted bitchy and I had to sweet talk her and tell her I can show her tests. Finally agreed to it.
Showed up and was fatter in person. Also really stupid and not great at conversation. Went to dinner at STK and it was miserable. Afterwards, we went upstairs, and she was terrible in bed too. Kind of lazy, didn't want to fuck for too long. I think we may have been in bed for less than an hour before she tapped out and said no more, put her clothes on.
Would not repeat for any reason.She listed herself as average which automatically means she is a little heavier than average. And her pics were all those angles where you can't really see her body.
HollywoodGuy
01-07-23, 00:28
https://members.seeking.com/member/995482da-535e-44c1-b30c-01f4db379664
I offered 500 PPM because she looked like a hot, fit blonde, and she agreed. Then brought up BBFS and she balked, acted bitchy and I had to sweet talk her and tell her I can show her tests. Finally agreed to it.
Showed up and was fatter in person. Also really stupid and not great at conversation. Went to dinner at STK and it was miserable. Afterwards, we went upstairs, and she was terrible in bed too. Kind of lazy, didn't want to fuck for too long. I think we may have been in bed for less than an hour before she tapped out and said no more, put her clothes on.
Would not repeat for any reason.Personally I do not even want sex if I have just eaten. Much less at a good place where you are going to indulge. Why not save the dinner till after and then adjust to the quality of the place based on the quality of the date? You are one generous guy.
NapataJohn
01-07-23, 08:59
https://members.seeking.com/member/995482da-535e-44c1-b30c-01f4db379664
Showed up and was fatter in person. Also really stupid and not great at conversation. Went to dinner at STK and it was miserable. .Better to meet up for drinks and see if there is a vibe and if not just get her an uber and you are a winner. Else its just money down the drain.
Does anyone know what happened to Lexi? Sexy petite sweet enough to eat, 36 years old.
11:34 PM on 2022-12-19 saw her a few times up until about a month ago, then she stopped posting.
HollywoodGuy
01-07-23, 17:09
Better to meet up for drinks and see if there is a vibe and if not just get her an uber and you are a winner. Else its just money down the drain.And for those of us that don"t drink, starbucks, boba, or whatever is always a good choice.
She listed herself as average which automatically means she is a little heavier than average. And her pics were all those angles where you can't really see her body.I tend not to look too much at how the girls categorize themselves because some of them are stupid as fuck or don't have the correct standards. For example:
1. I've had girls who looked totally white list themselves as Mixed or Other because their granddad was 1/2 Jamaican or something. I filter out Mixed and Other because I don't like black girls, and most mixed or other girls look black. Girls don't really understand that white women are the cream of the crop, literally everybody wants to fuck a white girl. Research from companies like Tinder and OkCupid show that besides your own race, the race men are most likely to be attracted to is white women. If a girl can pass off as white, she should list herself as white. You don't even have to know this research, literally any person who is a little aware of pop culture should know that white skin is seen as attractive. But, for some reason some girls don't get this fact.
2. So many women's beauty standards have been warped by the "thicc" perception of beauty from the rap / gen z period. Body positivity, Victoria Secret models being labeled as unappealing and unrelatable and scorned along with the company itself experiencing a downfall, all of this has contributed to unattractive girls listing themselves under attractive labels. Since being chubby with a big butt and thighs and no abs is pushed as beautiful these days, you have chunky girls listing themselves as "fit / athletics" while the girls with the traditional model look of thin, proportionate boobs / butt see themselves as "average" because they don't have a Kim K booty.
Personally I do not even want sex if I have just eaten. Much less at a good place where you are going to indulge. Why not save the dinner till after and then adjust to the quality of the place based on the quality of the date? You are one generous guy.
And for those of us that don"t drink, starbucks, boba, or whatever is always a good choice.I would have to inconvenience myself to do this. Basically when I'm in Vegas, I work off my laptop, with my company being on the east coast and me working east coast hours. So I get up at 5 AM, start work at 6 AM, and work until about 5 - 6 PM.
If I wanted to eat by myself then meet a girl later that night, I'd have to tell her to come by around 8 - 9 PM for drinks. So spend 30 min - 1 hr drinking and chatting, so it's 9 PM - 10 PM by then. Around the time I should get to sleep because I got to be up at 5 AM the next day. But if we get along and I decide to man up and take her upstairs even though I'm tired and have to get up early, then I still only got about 1 - 2 hours of fucking at most before I really have to sleep. Better for my time to bring a girl to dinner at 5 PM, eat and talk until 7 PM, then fuck until 10 - 11 PM for the 500 - 1000 PPM that I can normally negotiate.
Also, I stay at Aria, Cosmo, Bellagio, or Wynn. There aren't any Boba places there, drinks at the bars there are just as expensive as a meal sometimes, and there aren't any unique places to get coffee besides Starbucks. I don't like coffee much, and Starbucks is way less good then a nice Korean or French cafe. But, I also don't want to leave the hotel because travel time cuts into my fucking time, so if I ubered out to Henderson or Summerlin or something, I'd be losing out.
PriceIsRight39
01-07-23, 21:11
https://members.seeking.com/member/995482da-535e-44c1-b30c-01f4db379664
I offered 500 PPM because she looked like a hot, fit blonde, and she agreed. Then brought up BBFS and she balked, acted bitchy and I had to sweet talk her and tell her I can show her tests. Finally agreed to it.
Showed up and was fatter in person. Also really stupid and not great at conversation. Went to dinner at STK and it was miserable. Afterwards, we went upstairs, and she was terrible in bed too. Kind of lazy, didn't want to fuck for too long. I think we may have been in bed for less than an hour before she tapped out and said no more, put her clothes on.
Would not repeat for any reason.Ahhhh, ain't empty sex grand?? Haha. Order the asteroid already. These 304's are getting hard to take anymore. All is lost in the kissy game.
HollywoodGuy
01-08-23, 02:59
I would have to inconvenience myself to do this. Basically when I'm in Vegas, I work off my laptop, with my company being on the east coast and me working east coast hours. So I get up at 5 AM, start work at 6 AM, and work until about 5 - 6 PM.
If I wanted to eat by myself then meet a girl later that night, I'd have to tell her to come by around 8 - 9 PM for drinks. So spend 30 min - 1 hr drinking and chatting, so it's 9 PM - 10 PM by then. Around the time I should get to sleep because I got to be up at 5 AM the next day. But if we get along and I decide to man up and take her upstairs even though I'm tired and have to get up early, then I still only got about 1 - 2 hours of fucking at most before I really have to sleep. Better for my time to bring a girl to dinner at 5 PM, eat and talk until 7 PM, then fuck until 10 - 11 PM for the 500 - 1000 PPM that I can normally negotiate.
Also, I stay at Aria, Cosmo, Bellagio, or Wynn. There aren't any Boba places there, drinks at the bars there are just as expensive as a meal sometimes, and there aren't any unique places to get coffee besides Starbucks. I don't like coffee much, and Starbucks is way less good then a nice Korean or French cafe. But, I also don't want to leave the hotel because travel time cuts into my fucking time, so if I ubered out to Henderson or Summerlin or something, I'd be losing out.Well that explains it. I guess I get a little too wired from the anticipation. When I meet a new girl if she it hot and the sparks are there (like in the first few minutes) then bam. I need to get to it asap. I think in 15 or so years of doing this I have only sat through like 3 meals before hitting the FC. Sat through maybe a few more starbucks or whatever though. Also the way I M&G is usually just to chat in the car for a few minutes anyway. I basically did that even when I was rolling in it. But I have been semi-retired for quite a while so scheduling is a whole lot easier than what you have to deal with.
I read once that almost any girl makes up her mind about a guy within the first 5 minutes. And not always but many times I am picking up the girl. So I go to the spot, talk in the car, and if its cool I am back to my place. And if not, some mild awkwardness and then she is gone. And I do let some come straight to my place with no M&G, but that style seems to have gone out of style with these girls since covid. Plus I really do a heavy screening prior to meeting them to cut down on the ones I reject in person.
But thanks for all your many posts. I wish more people would post their screening and M&G techniques as I have learned a lot and adopted many of those over the years. Whatever happens after that is usually a YMMV scenario.
FreeBird999
01-08-23, 16:23
Your inbox is full, so I'll just let you know publicly how shady that move was. Message me.
I haven't really posted much in a while for a couple of reasons. First, I have been out of the country for work quite a bit and doing my thing in some wonderful countries. The beauty, the youth, the service in other countries have been AMAZING. Second, I got banned on SA. I am looking to get back in soon.
My screening and M&G almost always involve getting to know them a bit over a few days via texting. After we pass that phase, I invite them to a coffee and tea spot that also has cold drinks. I sit near the entrance so that I can see the young woman walk in. If she is way off from her pics, which happens from time to time. I message her, letting her know I'm not interested and why. I am not rude in my message, but very straightforward. If after we meet and our vibe is off, I let them know I am no longer interested. Again, honest but not rude. If we have chemistry in person, agree on terms, I almost always try to move the relationship / arrangement forward to the goods ASAP. Sometimes that is date one, other times it is date two.
I take this approach for a few reasons. I treat them like people and I get along with people are able to be straightforward in communication. It also helps to ensure that I waste as little of my time as possible. Third, I find that I have a better time when I establish some kind of chemistry with the young woman. I have no illusion that we are in a romantic relationship, even after I have had one try to actually be with me in a "real" relationship. Of course, I said no because that is not what I want. My point is that I build something with my SBs that is something between pure escort and true gf and that works for me. I have never given more than 200 and have a few women that hookup with me for 0 (quite often) because we actually enjoy the time together. Getting to this stage take time and effort. For me, time and effort has been a lunch without expecting intimacy after we have already been intimate, which sounds dumb until you one realizes I have had lots of intimacy for the cost of one lunch. It has also been texting (I don't talk on the phone much) about their problems or day. Once, I picked one up so that she could pick up a TV she ordered from Bestbuy and I never had time give her a thing for a year. She would tell me "No. I like you. " I think your M&Gs and screening processes should work towards what YOU want and need. So much of my process (via text, via M&G, how they handle my straightforwardness, etc.) is looking for those who might be open to my way.
Well that explains it. I guess I get a little too wired from the anticipation. When I meet a new girl if she it hot and the sparks are there (like in the first few minutes) then bam. I need to get to it asap. I think in 15 or so years of doing this I have only sat through like 3 meals before hitting the FC. Sat through maybe a few more starbucks or whatever though. Also the way I M&G is usually just to chat in the car for a few minutes anyway. I basically did that even when I was rolling in it. But I have been semi-retired for quite a while so scheduling is a whole lot easier than what you have to deal with.
I read once that almost any girl makes up her mind about a guy within the first 5 minutes. And not always but many times I am picking up the girl. So I go to the spot, talk in the car, and if its cool I am back to my place. And if not, some mild awkwardness and then she is gone. And I do let some come straight to my place with no M&G, but that style seems to have gone out of style with these girls since covid. Plus I really do a heavy screening prior to meeting them to cut down on the ones I reject in person.
But thanks for all your many posts. I wish more people would post their screening and M&G techniques as I have learned a lot and adopted many of those over the years. Whatever happens after that is usually a YMMV scenario.
https://members.seeking.com/member/11b094ab-bc4c-480d-afd2-dbb712820cbc
Started texting, tell her 500 ppm for dinner and fun. She says 1000 min. I ask for bareback and at least 4 hours in bed. She replies:
"Condom is nonnegotiable sorry sweetie".
"If you show me your test results I'd be happy to give you a BJ for the happy ending LOL".
"Let's meet and we can talk about arrangement then LOL. Doesn't have to be so serious.
"If I'm only seeing you once a month, I know you will make it worth my time.
My previous arrangement with my ex of 1. 5 years was 6 k per month, housing, health insurance, bmw, and new iPhone. I would like something comparable. If you're in town for a week can you do $2-3 k?"
Lmao.
https://members.seeking.com/member/11b094ab-bc4c-480d-afd2-dbb712820cbc
Started texting, tell her 500 ppm for dinner and fun. She says 1000 min. I ask for bareback and at least 4 hours in bed. She replies:
"Condom is nonnegotiable sorry sweetie".
"If you show me your test results I'd be happy to give you a BJ for the happy ending LOL".
"Let's meet and we can talk about arrangement then LOL. Doesn't have to be so serious.
"If I'm only seeing you once a month, I know you will make it worth my time.
My previous arrangement with my ex of 1. 5 years was 6 k per month, housing, health insurance, bmw, and new iPhone. I would like something comparable. If you're in town for a week can you do $2-3 k?"
Lmao.Always hilarious when they've only been on the site for a week and they talk about their mythical previous arrangement where a guy gave them 4 figures for almost nothing. I always ask them why it ended if they had such a great thing. They always say "he moved".
HollywoodGuy
01-11-23, 15:36
https://members.seeking.com/member/11b094ab-bc4c-480d-afd2-dbb712820cbc
Started texting, tell her 500 ppm for dinner and fun. She says 1000 min. I ask for bareback and at least 4 hours in bed. She replies:
"Condom is nonnegotiable sorry sweetie".
"If you show me your test results I'd be happy to give you a BJ for the happy ending LOL".
"Let's meet and we can talk about arrangement then LOL. Doesn't have to be so serious.
"If I'm only seeing you once a month, I know you will make it worth my time.
My previous arrangement with my ex of 1. 5 years was 6 k per month, housing, health insurance, bmw, and new iPhone. I would like something comparable. If you're in town for a week can you do $2-3 k?"
Lmao.While this is laughable it is believable. Its like new girl money at the strip club. First time SB meets first time (but not always) SD. An arrangement that will never be repeated.
FarFarAway
01-12-23, 17:11
Saw her visiting a year + ago. Met up in a bar to check each other out, back to my room, great sex, reasonable allowance. Do not mention anything about me to her.
https://members.seeking.com/member/ba6d44f2-4e54-4d7a-88c0-6f90c0820434
https://members.seeking.com/member/31d6ed81-49e8-49d5-87b9-aacaf78bdd8a
Started talking and agree to 500 as long as I take her to dinner. Doesn't want to do bare, gives the typical bullshit of how her headgame is great, I'll cum easily, blah blah. Eventually asks for a 100 deposit to secure the date, which I refuse because I tell her I've been scammed. She says:
"That's.
A bummer. I've never scammed anyone I have revjews that prove it. If I was going to scam people than they would be the first to give me bad reviews".
I ask what reviews, she says:
"Private delights, erotic monkey, etc. ".
I fake like I don't know what those are and tell her I can't do a deposit, if that means we're not meeting then best of luck. She's not said anything so far.
Hobbyist1980
01-13-23, 19:38
I met up with her a few years ago when she advertised on Mojo. She went by Sophie or Sophia. She used to only be $$ for an hour. Her rates have gone up considerably. She is a nice girl. Looks just like her pics, at least she did back then. She is definitely worth $$, $$ seems like alot. Not sure I would go that high.
https://members.seeking.com/member/31d6ed81-49e8-49d5-87b9-aacaf78bdd8a
Started talking and agree to 500 as long as I take her to dinner. Doesn't want to do bare, gives the typical bullshit of how her headgame is great, I'll cum easily, blah blah. Eventually asks for a 100 deposit to secure the date, which I refuse because I tell her I've been scammed. She says:
"That's.
A bummer. I've never scammed anyone I have revjews that prove it. If I was going to scam people than they would be the first to give me bad reviews".
I ask what reviews, she says:
"Private delights, erotic monkey, etc. ".
I fake like I don't know what those are and tell her I can't do a deposit, if that means we're not meeting then best of luck. She's not said anything so far.
https://members.seeking.com/member/a34202c6-4de6-4283-b9ab-c9c1885f94a9
There's a scammer in Vegas making fake profiles and using the same lines. Hit up one of their profiles and they'll always say:
"happy to meet if arrangement is proper and we prebook".
By prebook, they mean send a deposit. Encountered 3 so far with the exact same line, always using pics of extremely hot girls.
I met up with her a few years ago when she advertised on Mojo. She went by Sophie or Sophia. She used to only be $$ for an hour. Her rates have gone up considerably. She is a nice girl. Looks just like her pics, at least she did back then. She is definitely worth $$, $$ seems like alot. Not sure I would go that high.I used to be regular with Sophie. Bare everything for $$.
Very thin (skinny). Great pussy. I loved it while It lasted.
Any time I've tried to see her in the last year or two she wanted $$ and no BBFS.
FarFarAway
01-16-23, 01:08
I used to be regular with Sophie. Bare everything for $$.
Very thin (skinny). Great pussy. I loved it while It lasted.
Any time I've tried to see her in the last year or two she wanted $$ and no BBFS.The auto correct on this site is making nonsense of your posts. Just write down what you are paying for allowance, 300,400, 500, whatever.
https://members.seeking.com/member/c33b8a95-5adf-4e08-af97-9f98d9b82cbc
She starts off on SA by saying she had 600 PPM. I figured okay, I could work with it if she's down for the right kind of fun.
Get to talking, figure out date and dinner, then I ask if she's clean and tested, can we do bare? She responds with:
"I never said we were having sex".
LMAO.
The auto correct on this site is making nonsense of your posts. Just write down what you are paying for allowance, 300,400, 500, whatever.Nah bro, if the cops bust this site they'll totally get away with no charges because they wrote $$ instead of 200, and wrote that they were dreaming so none of it actually happened!
The auto correct on this site is making nonsense of your posts. Just write down what you are paying for allowance, 300,400, 500, whatever.She wants 6 now. She has a web site and ter reviews. I don't see how she can try that platonic shit on.
SA. She's a pro for years.
https://members.seeking.com/member/fb9951d4-c16b-2421-0501-32f9cede970f
Started talking, settled on date for dinner and fun for 500. I tell her I'm tested and clean, ask her to confirm. She says uncovered fun is more than 500, I ask how much and she says 1000. I tell her I normally only do that for overnights or all day dates, if she wants that for a dinner date what else is she willing to do? Anal? Rimjob? Watersports? I don't even like those kinks, I just wanted to see what she would say, 90% chance I would let her go. She says no anal, then gives me this:
"Don't under value me I won't see you!! I know my worth your not going to fuck me uncovered for 500".
https://members.seeking.com/member/57e51d37-df46-4b59-b1aa-d43ab8a62057
Claims to be two Euro girls who live in Miami and were in Vegas for a bit. Asked them to text, they're very short with 1-3 word responses to everything. Finally make my offer of 500 for each of them for intimate dates, they respond with:
"Lol no. Bye"
https://members.seeking.com/member/6c3c5972-4607-4965-bdf4-064405af32ac
Get to texting, I tell her I do 500 for dinner and intimacy. She says 500 is just for her time, anything else is extra. I ask what PPM for sex, she says 1000. I ask if bareback is on the menu, she says no.
https://members.seeking.com/member/292f465e-84a5-4469-8f9a-729dd2b693b6
Wants to get PPM, but not open to fucking until "getting to know each other better".
She wants 6 now. She has a web site and ter reviews. I don't see how she can try that platonic shit on.
SA. She's a pro for years.Can you link her site? I tried to search TER for her number from SA and nothing came up.
I have not been sugaring with new girls for quite some time for a couple of reasons. 1. I found two steady SBs that are fantastic (neither of which are in the game / on the site anymore) and I have been doing my thing with them steadily. 2. I got kicked off the site. I am thinking about getting back in the game for someone new. What is the going rate for SB PPMs now? I know this is and has always been a range but I am seeing a lot of 500. Are there still plenty of women who will accept less or has 500 become the new standard?
FarFarAway
01-18-23, 14:33
https://members.seeking.com/member/292f465e-84a5-4469-8f9a-729dd2b693b6
Wants to get PPM, but not open to fucking until "getting to know each other better".It's her second day on the site (well, with this profile). If you aren't patient, you'll not have much luck getting girls who aren't UTR escorts.
I have not been sugaring with new girls for quite some time for a couple of reasons. 1. I found two steady SBs that are fantastic (neither of which are in the game / on the site anymore) and I have been doing my thing with them steadily. 2. I got kicked off the site. I am thinking about getting back in the game for someone new. What is the going rate for SB PPMs now? I know this is and has always been a range but I am seeing a lot of 500. Are there still plenty of women who will accept less or has 500 become the new standard?I've never gotten less than 500 agreed to, even though I sometimes start negotiations at 400. I don't even dare offer 300 anymore, likely to piss off real girls who are good potential SB's.
https://members.seeking.com/member/103f6936-2722-433f-a83c-841cadf40bab
40 fucking years old and has GPS. Started texting, I offer 500 for dinner and fun. Next thing I know, she's blocked me on SA and didn't respond to my offer.
I've never gotten less than 500 agreed to, even though I sometimes start negotiations at 400. I don't even dare offer 300 anymore, likely to piss off real girls who are good potential SB's.
https://members.seeking.com/member/103f6936-2722-433f-a83c-841cadf40bab
40 fucking years old and has GPS. Started texting, I offer 500 for dinner and fun. Next thing I know, she's blocked me on SA and didn't respond to my offer.Needles in a haystack, but they are out there. Long ago I gave out a lot of information but so little was returned that I stop. Just lost my girls to gps when the board used them up.
Inflation is hitting us all. LOL.
I've never gotten less than 500 agreed to, even though I sometimes start negotiations at 400. I don't even dare offer 300 anymore, likely to piss off real girls who are good potential SB's.
https://members.seeking.com/member/103f6936-2722-433f-a83c-841cadf40bab
40 fucking years old and has GPS. Started texting, I offer 500 for dinner and fun. Next thing I know, she's blocked me on SA and didn't respond to my offer.
FarFarAway
01-18-23, 18:55
Needles in a haystack, but they are out there. Long ago I gave out a lot of information but so little was returned that I stop. Just lost my girls to gps when the board used them up.If you are negotiating electronically, of course you will get escort-level numbers. You could be a total creep. Don't promise anything other than a fancy drink and meet the girl. Flirt w / her like you would a girl you are trying to date. I can guarantee the sugar will be more reasonable.
The last time I was in Vegas, I met up w / someone I contacted in advance and built rapport with. Because we both have dogs. I met up w / her at a bar across the street from my hotel, and literally it was a Bud light and a G&T. She came to my room for the night for 300. Tall, blonde, very pretty, banging body.
HollywoodGuy
01-18-23, 23:38
If you are negotiating electronically, of course you will get escort-level numbers. You could be a total creep. Don't promise anything other than a fancy drink and meet the girl. Flirt w / her like you would a girl you are trying to date. I can guarantee the sugar will be more reasonable.
The last time I was in Vegas, I met up w / someone I contacted in advance and built rapport with. Because we both have dogs. I met up w / her at a bar across the street from my hotel, and literally it was a Bud light and a G&T. She came to my room for the night for 300. Tall, blonde, very pretty, banging body.Personality always goes a long way. I estimate its good for half off or more depending.
NapataJohn
01-19-23, 07:57
Are there still plenty of women who will accept less or has 500 become the new standard?I usually agree to 500 but ask them if we like each other would they do 400 the next 2 times with a dinner thrown in? Or with a trip to a strip club if she is game?
It works almost all the time as they are guaranteed 800 more over the next 2 dates and they also are able to go out and unwind.
If you are negotiating electronically, of course you will get escort-level numbers. You could be a total creep. Don't promise anything other than a fancy drink and meet the girl. Flirt w / her like you would a girl you are trying to date. I can guarantee the sugar will be more reasonable.
The last time I was in Vegas, I met up w / someone I contacted in advance and built rapport with. Because we both have dogs. I met up w / her at a bar across the street from my hotel, and literally it was a Bud light and a G&T. She came to my room for the night for 300. Tall, blonde, very pretty, banging body.If I were local to Vegas and could afford to waste time, I'd def just hit them up and negotiate in person. I'm not, so I have to schedule everything and maximize my time, and if a date doesn't work out, that's time I could have spent banging someone else.
FarFarAway
01-19-23, 10:45
If I were local to Vegas and could afford to waste time, I'd def just hit them up and negotiate in person. I'm not, so I have to schedule everything and maximize my time, and if a date doesn't work out, that's time I could have spent banging someone else.I don't live in Vegas, I was visiting. Convenience has a cost in any activity. I am more quality oriented, and putting in advance work gets me quality at a good price. If you don't want to do that, if you want 'delivery', it will cost more.
HollywoodGuy
01-20-23, 00:29
https://members.seeking.com/member/d0f2257d-ea75-453d-937b-62c6a9590b8a
I know one of you high rollers is going after this one.
I don't live in Vegas, I was visiting. Convenience has a cost in any activity. I am more quality oriented, and putting in advance work gets me quality at a good price. If you don't want to do that, if you want 'delivery', it will cost more.I try to schedule 2 girls a day every day I'm in Vegas, but I only go after 8+ girls. That's a lot of unsure meet and greets. And I work all day from 6 AM to at least 2 PM, and have to get to sleep at a decent time to work the next day, so I really don't have that much free time.
https://members.seeking.com/member/d0f2257d-ea75-453d-937b-62c6a9590b8a
I know one of you high rollers is going after this one.Isn't she fake? Pretty sure I saw her under a different profile.
https://members.seeking.com/member/a860bb7d-d973-40f9-8e54-5939ae3fc97b
Time waster, texted for a long time talking about random stuff, finally got to a date for 500PPM, asked if she's tested and clean and she says:
"Oh that's not what I'm looking for . Good luck"
NapataJohn
01-20-23, 06:50
Isn't she fake? Pretty sure I saw her under a different profile.
https://members.seeking.com/member/a860bb7d-d973-40f9-8e54-5939ae3fc97b
The photos on each profile look vastly different though ages are similar.
So I have been seeing this girl for some time now and she said she wants to branch out so here you go. She is submissive as far as taking directions and she takes directions very well. She loves giving BBBJ she will suck you cock for 30+ minutes no problem and the longer she goes the more spit she has. When we first met I asked for BBFS and told her I was just tested and she agreed and I showed her my results. I never asked if she was BBFS out right so YMMV on this. Anal she is very new to it so it may be possible but again YMMV. I have been seeing her for a long time now so my rates may not be current so I am not going to post a rate because I am sure I am getting a regulars rate. As with most girls negotiating is an option but again YMMV. Also she is no rush at all unlike an out an out escort who charges by the hour. Also she is a sweetheart very friendly and easy to talk to and very easy to ask what you want. She lives in Phoenix but comes to Vegas about every two weeks and is here for a few days at a time. Oh almost forgot she is like 5'5' and about 145 my best guess. https://www.secretbenefits.com/next/profile/167e1dc4623918dc.
https://members.seeking.com/member/c94ffa9b-d5d6-4666-80ea-f57e0eeebec3
Super hard to get a hold of. Finally start texting, she opens with "I need 1 k minimum. " I tell her sure, for a whole day. She says if we find some things to fill up the time, sure. I tell her I'm clean and sterile with tests, ask if she's clean. She gives me:
"I require protected. What do I look like to you?
I'm done with her at this point so I say: "a girl".
She says: "not one who does that thank you".
Some girls are nice about no BB, some are huge fucking entitled kunts.
https://members.seeking.com/member/a29eb62f-a242-4971-9711-7b11674fa76d
This girl also won't do BB, but was respectful about it. Wanted 500PPM, when I asked about BBFS she say:
"Sorry but I don't do anything without a condom"
https://members.seeking.com/member/ca67fdc2-4967-4a29-b48b-7fea6f4330d2
Wants 500 PPM for dinner dates, 2 k if there's sex.
https://members.seeking.com/member/f27c519b-f941-4692-acd9-ce0b4d07f496
This tubby ass, I told her 300PPM. She reponds with "Oh my price would be wayyy more than that sorry"
Anyone have feedback on her? Seems like I've seen the profile before but history says new.
https://members.seeking.com/member/8abfbb00-77ff-43cc-bc28-9af38d9eae46
Don't want to get scammed.
NapataJohn
01-21-23, 10:50
This tubby ass, I told her 300PPM. She reponds with "Oh my price would be wayyy more than that sorry"The second one looks very sexy to me by the way your sense of humour is amazing. I like the way you told the other one that you want a girl.
https://members.seeking.com/member/ca67fdc2-4967-4a29-b48b-7fea6f4330d2
Wants 500 PPM for dinner dates, 2 k if there's sex.
https://members.seeking.com/member/f27c519b-f941-4692-acd9-ce0b4d07f496
This tubby ass, I told her 300PPM. She reponds with "Oh my price would be wayyy more than that sorry"Carmen is a very well reviewed young lady on TER, 2 K for dinner and sex may not be all that bad to some. For me, nah but if she was like 1 K for dinner and a pillow fight then he'll yeah count me in.
https://www.datecarmenvip.com/consideration/
This one asked for $500, I offered $400 and she accepted. Not quite as attractive as Pics, and a little heavier. Not bad but she has meat on her bones. She did not mention cover and took it bb like a champ. Just not my type so I won't repeat.
https://members.seeking.com/member/1c682c46-6530-4678-b32c-ffa914441b5e
She is seeking $1 k for GFE for the night. I did not partake.
https://members.seeking.com/member/e6dba690-9d14-42bf-8f5d-f976f8cb9387
She is seeking $1 k for GFE for the night. I did not partake.
https://members.seeking.com/member/e6dba690-9d14-42bf-8f5d-f976f8cb9387I liked her and for 1 K, I'd bite. Now if I wasn't banned. LOL.
Carmen is a very well reviewed young lady on TER, 2 K for dinner and sex may not be all that bad to some. For me, nah but if she was like 1 K for dinner and a pillow fight then he'll yeah count me in.
https://www.datecarmenvip.com/consideration/Interesting. She's def very hot, and the TER reviews mention BBFS, although not explicitly. She's def not well-reviewed though, only 3 reviews on TER. I tried googling her booking email and no other review sites popped up.
This one asked for $500, I offered $400 and she accepted. Not quite as attractive as Pics, and a little heavier. Not bad but she has meat on her bones. She did not mention cover and took it bb like a champ. Just not my type so I won't repeat.
https://members.seeking.com/member/1c682c46-6530-4678-b32c-ffa914441b5eLOL I met up with her in person and she's not attractive, ended up giving her $100 for gas after dinner and sending her on her way.
First chick in your report is clearly a stripper sitting in the strip club locker room.
https://members.seeking.com/member/fb9951d4-c16b-2421-0501-32f9cede970f
Started talking, settled on date for dinner and fun for 500. I tell her I'm tested and clean, ask her to confirm. She says uncovered fun is more than 500, I ask how much and she says 1000. I tell her I normally only do that for overnights or all day dates, if she wants that for a dinner date what else is she willing to do? Anal? Rimjob? Watersports? I don't even like those kinks, I just wanted to see what she would say, 90% chance I would let her go. She says no anal, then gives me this:
"Don't under value me I won't see you!! I know my worth your not going to fuck me uncovered for 500".
https://members.seeking.com/member/57e51d37-df46-4b59-b1aa-d43ab8a62057
Claims to be two Euro girls who live in Miami and were in Vegas for a bit. Asked them to text, they're very short with 1-3 word responses to everything. Finally make my offer of 500 for each of them for intimate dates, they respond with:
"Lol no. Bye"
First chick in your report is clearly a stripper sitting in the strip club locker room.I don't see why that matters, many attractive women have been strippers, camgirls, etc.
Side note, here's my experience today and it is why I discuss extensively what the arrangement will entail before coming out here. I just arrived in Vegas today. I had some solid girls, but also a bunch of flaky ones that were hard to make plans with. I purposely triple booked my sex session today because I knew they were flaky. All 3 of them failed me, 2 of them ghosted and one of them couldn't find a babysitter.
I tried to get a last minute replacement girl, but she did the thing girls do which is taking fucking forever to get ready, but she has a hard stop where she's got to go do something. I emphasized multiple times that time is the most important thing, not how her eyeliner looks, but she didn't listen. Ended up she would be able to stay less than 1 hour, I told her to forget it and stay home.
I can't imagine taking even more chances with a bunch of girls who get to the bedroom and tell me they don't do anything sexual on the first date, or only want to give a HJ or strip for me, or won't do it without a condom.
Now I'm stuck in a hotel room with nobody to fuck tonight. Maybe I'll hit up an escort, or take a tour around the casino, but those working girls are even less likely to offer bare.
NapataJohn
01-22-23, 11:17
She is seeking $1 k for GFE for the night. I did not partake.Similar price StarshipXO Seems like an escort= 1 k.
https://members.seeking.com/member/bf5560d8-9c1a-448d-b84e-ccd0e92d188d
FarFarAway
01-22-23, 14:03
I don't see why that matters, many attractive women have been strippers, camgirls, etc.
Now I'm stuck in a hotel room with nobody to fuck tonight. Maybe I'll hit up an escort, or take a tour around the casino, but those working girls are even less likely to offer bare.In general, the experience of SDs that I have read of strippers being SBs is that they have very high monetary expectations. If you are in Vegas on a lark, the cost of the girl may be immaterial. The other aspect? A lot of people have reported that stripper / SBs were some of the worst lays they have experienced. The same for porn stars. I have personal experience with neither. The general feeling is that these types had a high opinion of themselves already, from horny guys blowing smoke up their ass, and they weren't all that into the actual experience of banging their SD. I'd rather have a pretty but not gorgeous / famous girl who was into the sex.
In general, the experience of SDs that I have read of strippers being SBs is that they have very high monetary expectations. If you are in Vegas on a lark, the cost of the girl may be immaterial. The other aspect? A lot of people have reported that stripper / SBs were some of the worst lays they have experienced. The same for porn stars. I have personal experience with neither. The general feeling is that these types had a high opinion of themselves already, from horny guys blowing smoke up their ass, and they weren't all that into the actual experience of banging their SD. I'd rather have a pretty but not gorgeous / famous girl who was into the sex.I'll get to the financial stuff later, but for sex, that has not been my experience. I've had bad pornstar lays and awesome pornstar lays. Saw one through an agency in 2021 and she was so bad I called it early, she started crying thinking I was going to report her to the agency and she needed the job, had money issues. Saw another 18 yo (19 now) pornstar a few months ago, that girl was wild. Sloppy deepthroating, giving deep rimjobs, all 3 holes available BB and cum anywhere, didn't try ass to mouth or pussy but she might have been up for it. Was definitely up for getting pissed on and drinking it, although I didn't partake.
As for strippers, I had one give me a lapdance at Oz in Tampa, and I guess she was horny and I was rubbing her right. She whipped my dick out in the lapdance cubicles and sucked on it, then sat on it BB. She rode me, then I turned her around, pushed her against the cubicle wall, and fucked her from behind until I nutted inside her. This wasn't even in a private VIP room, just the open dance cubicles. Anybody could walk past and see us fucking, even though none did since it was a slow dayshift. She didn't even ask for a tip, but I gave her a generous one. I've also had strippers give mechanical as fuck CBJ then lazily bend over and wait to get fucked, then have the audacity to ask for a tip on top of their already high rate for extras. It all varies.
Age, profession, allowance amount requested, none of it has made a huge difference in how good they are at fucking.
As for finances, yes I've noticed that girls who already have a decent income are less inclined to fuck unattractive men for 200 or 300, which is natural. At the same time, those girls that make money off their looks tend to be better looking than girls who can't or don't. Given the choice, I'd rather pay $1000 for 4 hours with a 9, then $500 for 4 hours with a 7, sexual experience being equal. I have also noticed that girls who charge more are open to hanging out longer. A girl willing to do 400 isn't going to get dinner and hang out for the whole evening, at least I haven't gotten one like that. On the other hand, when girls ask for a higher allowance, I specifically ask if they're open to meeting up for dinner, then hanging out until 11 pm or 12 am, and many will agree. This makes the per hour cost very economical, even when compared to the lower rate girl.
I am not saying that it's necessarily a bad thing, but I play percentages. Just like you pointed towards the bottom of your report. In most cases, strippers will be more expensive and more pro-vibish. But not a given for everyone obviously.
I don't see why that matters, many attractive women have been strippers, camgirls, etc.
Side note, here's my experience today and it is why I discuss extensively what the arrangement will entail before coming out here. I just arrived in Vegas today. I had some solid girls, but also a bunch of flaky ones that were hard to make plans with. I purposely triple booked my sex session today because I knew they were flaky. All 3 of them failed me, 2 of them ghosted and one of them couldn't find a babysitter.
I tried to get a last minute replacement girl, but she did the thing girls do which is taking fucking forever to get ready, but she has a hard stop where she's got to go do something. I emphasized multiple times that time is the most important thing, not how her eyeliner looks, but she didn't listen. Ended up she would be able to stay less than 1 hour, I told her to forget it and stay home.
I can't imagine taking even more chances with a bunch of girls who get to the bedroom and tell me they don't do anything sexual on the first date, or only want to give a HJ or strip for me, or won't do it without a condom.
Now I'm stuck in a hotel room with nobody to fuck tonight. Maybe I'll hit up an escort, or take a tour around the casino, but those working girls are even less likely to offer bare.
Similar price StarshipXO Seems like an escort= 1 k.
https://members.seeking.com/member/bf5560d8-9c1a-448d-b84e-ccd0e92d188dShe started at dinner and fun for 800. I asked if she could stay 3 h for that, she said 2 max. I asked if 3 h for 900 with BBFS was doable, she says 1 k.
https://members.seeking.com/member/cb79e064-1a7f-42c3-8fc9-fadab174bb32
Said she gets 1 k for meeting for coffee. I told her to go meet for coffee, seems like a good deal.
BTW just had another dud, took a chance on a girl who needed condoms and guess what, she required condoms even after I ate her until she came. Fucked her for 20 min while feeling nothing, eventually called it and sent her away with her allowance. Now contemplating going downstairs and snagging a CG if I can, or just going to bed instead of dealing with their likely poor service and high rates.
Fuck taking risks like that, I don't have time to waste on shit experiences.
https://members.seeking.com/member/11b094ab-bc4c-480d-afd2-dbb712820cbc
1 k PPM. Said some bullshit about if the sex is good, give her 1 k and she'll come back the next night. Any guesses on how likely that's going to be?
Also refused BBFS.
https://members.seeking.com/member/e2f7b438-d491-4e7f-9212-b4a709b4ad91
Photos are pretty cute. They're also 50 pounds ago. Took another chance because fat chicks are great at fucking right? Wrong. Couldn't give head due to strong gag reflex, rode for 30 seconds before getting tired, I had to do all the work.
Ugly girls aren't better lays. You just don't fuck enough 10's to get a good sample.
In Vegas and had several potential meets in the queue. Chose one who has already blocked me on the site called AlluringPrincess.
Our texts were great over two days. Agreed on a gift amount set a time and place.
I wad there with gift in pocket 5 xx.
Waited. Waited. Sent photo of me there Then she texted and said cashapp 1 xx. Total time waster. At no point in two days of text did she bring this up.
I have another on the hook who refuses to discuss gift.
I have asked, directly, what she wants and she says let's meet in person to discuss. Suspiciously believe same deal will happen.
If I say okay let's meet at 8 pm at Bellagio to discuss she will say awesome. First cashapp me xxx.
Vegas girls are exhausting.
ForestWood
01-24-23, 17:02
In Vegas and had several potential meets in the queue. Chose one who has already blocked me on the site called AlluringPrincess.
Our texts were great over two days. Agreed on a gift amount set a time and place.
I wad there with gift in pocket 5 xx.
Waited. Waited. Sent photo of me there Then she texted and said cashapp 1 xx. Total time waster. At no point in two days of text did she bring this up.
I have another on the hook who refuses to discuss gift.
I have asked, directly, what she wants and she says let's meet in person to discuss. Suspiciously believe same deal will happen.
If I say okay let's meet at 8 pm at Bellagio to discuss she will say awesome. First cashapp me xxx.
Vegas girls are exhausting.I wouldn't say Vegas girls are exhausting, but I would say scammers are, and probably they are not even in this state or country! Did you have a voice contact first or facetime to verify the person on the other end is who they say they are? With texting you have no idea who is on the other end! I would never meet someone with text as the only contact and no other means of verification. At least everybody seems to be learning NEVER to send a deposit. Glad you did not lose anything but time.
HollywoodGuy
01-25-23, 05:42
Imagine you're a scammer. You're going to want to go where the largest number of potential targets are located. In the sugar world that is going to be guys that focus on 25-30 shapely and attractive white girls. I can say that in hundreds of meets I have been catfished once, and if any girl wanted to get cash upfront they asked me for it on the site or maybe txt. As far as getting booted from seeking, it's never happened once since the day they opened. And I have had some racy convos (but not for the last few years due to all the horror stories on USASG).
The reason is. I only date AA girls. They might not be your cup of tea. But 95% WYSIWYG. And they don't get into a huff when they can't come to a reasonable allowance with me. Maybe a quick one liner at most and then they are gone, but mostly they just ghost after my offer if its not to their liking. Just my 2 cents.
Hi, has anyone seen her? I searched the forum and didn't see any mentions.
https://members.seeking.com/member/c0bc9c4d-4bc1-4292-a42a-85d646206258
https://members.seeking.com/member/dd22d399-d62a-43c8-b584-cb286d36e2cd
30 yo stripper. Body is okay, good naturals and curvy but not toned. Agrees to 500 PPM.
We go to dinner at a fancy steakhouse. While walking there, waiting for elevators, etc, she's rubbing and grabbing my dick over the pants. I thought this was a good sign of things to come, boy was I wrong.
Get to the room and I rinse off, she pisses but doesn't wash her hands while I'm showering. Come out and all the lights are off, I go to turn on a small lamp in the corner and she refuses, wants to fuck in the dark. Probably had stretch marks or something to hide, but I didn't feel anything with my hands.
She's extremely transactional and a shitty lay. Spends more time giving HJ than BJ. Tries to get an extra tip, and go back on BBFS when we agreed to it. Lazy at riding, asks me to fuck her but gets in the typical stripper mode, rushing me and asking if I'm cumming, stupid shit like that.
Eventually hops off my dick and asks to get her PPM. I consider telling her to get out with no money, but who knows if she had mace or a taser in her purse. I throw her out and toss her money after her, blocked her on SA and Google Voice. Check the pics she sent below.
Imagine you're a scammer. You're going to want to go where the largest number of potential targets are located. In the sugar world that is going to be guys that focus on 25-30 shapely and attractive white girls. I can say that in hundreds of meets I have been catfished once, and if any girl wanted to get cash upfront they asked me for it on the site or maybe txt. As far as getting booted from seeking, it's never happened once since the day they opened. And I have had some racy convos (but not for the last few years due to all the horror stories on USASG).
The reason is. I only date AA girls. They might not be your cup of tea. But 95% WYSIWYG. And they don't get into a huff when they can't come to a reasonable allowance with me. Maybe a quick one liner at most and then they are gone, but mostly they just ghost after my offer if its not to their liking. Just my 2 cents.I wish I could be attracted to AA or Asian girls. It's tough but I only like whites and white latinas. But at the same time, dating girls that most don't prefer is not the best way to have success imo. It's like if a guy came and posted about how he can get girls for $100 and never gets stood up or scammed, but he only hits up BBWs. Sure, you don't get scammed, but most dudes would trade dealing with scammers for not having to fuck fat chicks.
BlizzxXrds
01-26-23, 02:48
https://members.seeking.com/member/dd22d399-d62a-43c8-b584-cb286d36e2cd
30 yo stripper. Body is okay, good naturals and curvy but not toned. Agrees to 500 PPM.
We go to dinner at a fancy steakhouse. While walking there, waiting for elevators, etc, she's rubbing and grabbing my dick over the pants. I thought this was a good sign of things to come, boy was I wrong.
Get to the room and I rinse off, she pisses but doesn't wash her hands while I'm showering. Come out and all the lights are off, I go to turn on a small lamp in the corner and she refuses, wants to fuck in the dark. Probably had stretch marks or something to hide, but I didn't feel anything with my hands.
She's extremely transactional and a shitty lay. Spends more time giving HJ than BJ. Tries to get an extra tip, and go back on BBFS when we agreed to it. Lazy at riding, asks me to fuck her but gets in the typical stripper mode, rushing me and asking if I'm cumming, stupid shit like that.
Eventually hops off my dick and asks to get her PPM. I consider telling her to get out with no money, but who knows if she had mace or a taser in her purse. I throw her out and toss her money after her, blocked her on SA and Google Voice. Check the pics she sent below.Can't see the pics or attachments.
NapataJohn
01-26-23, 06:04
https://members.seeking.com/member/dd22d399-d62a-43c8-b584-cb286d36e2cd.But still she looks very sexy in those pics, pity about the attitude.
FarFarAway
01-26-23, 15:30
https://members.seeking.com/member/dd22d399-d62a-43c8-b584-cb286d36e2cd
30 yo stripper. Body is okay, good naturals and curvy but not toned. Agrees to 500 PPM.As I said earlier about strippers.
Roy Munson
01-26-23, 22:09
I have not been sugaring with new girls for quite some time for a couple of reasons. 1. I found two steady SBs that are fantastic (neither of which are in the game / on the site anymore) and I have been doing my thing with them steadily. 2. I got kicked off the site. I am thinking about getting back in the game for someone new. What is the going rate for SB PPMs now? I know this is and has always been a range but I am seeing a lot of 500. Are there still plenty of women who will accept less or has 500 become the new standard?Prices have definitely gone up, but it varies on the girl. I think if you're looking for a girl for less than 300 you're better off just looking for a Casino Girl walking the strip or in the casino. You'll have a better chance after 1 am.
An SA veteran girl will charge more. A new SA girl will be more willing to accept a lower offer, but you better be somewhat attractive and close the deal fast before she gets better offers from other guys. These girls get so many offers from rich guys flying in from all over the world. The best looking and younger girls easily get offered over $1,000 per date. The funny thing is that women think their value goes up as they get older, when it's actually the opposite.
My advice would be to decide on what your budget is and offer it upfront. If it's 400 or 500 then tell her. And be specific if you want her to spend the night or just a couple hours. Don't ask her how much she's looking for because she'll give you a high number and then you'll look cheap and weak by trying to negotiate down and that just wastes time. Meet for a drink at your hotel and feel her out. If it feels good then move it to the bedroom.
HollywoodGuy
01-27-23, 01:12
[URL]But at the same time, dating girls that most don't prefer is not the best way to have success imo. It's like if a guy came and posted about how he can get girls for $100 and never gets stood up or scammed, but he only hits up BBWs.I agree with your point 100%. But AA is my preference as far as race. Although I could be attracted to a girl of any race or country if she was my version of hot.
But within that very large group I then narrow it down to looks, body type and personality. Anyone who follows me knows my body type (petite spinner). So not really giving anything up there. Personality wise they need to be on the very submissive / kink side of things if they expect to see me more than once. Although if a girl mentions she is kinky in her profile I pass. As far as skills ofc we all want that sexy, flirty type that's long lasting and anything goes. But on some level it's a YMMV scenario to some degree.
As far as price I am convinced that $ amounts have nothing to do with skills or the overall sensuality/sexuality of a girl (only talking about girls that look hot to begin with). And if she likes you it's probably gonna be a bit better than average. But the highest paid SB I ever knew personally. High as in there was never any talk of money (because the amounts being spent are sky high right out of the gate). Well that girl wasn't all that in bed. She was a whole lot of fun, super smart, and she was the stereotypical california busty blond. The kind of girl that the truly wealthy pursue. And she used to tell me I was demanding and that most guys were happy with much less in the FC. (dated her for 2 years when I was balling).
But we all have our own version of what a 10 is for us. And thanks for all the posts. Keep up the good work. My own rough calculation is that 5% of the members leave 99% of the posts.
HollywoodGuy
01-27-23, 02:09
Just to add on to the stripper commentary. Overall I don't pursue them and if they say dancer in their profile I pass immediately. The reason being, out of my four regulars one has danced for 6 years and the other for 3 years. When I hear the way they talk about the customers they see in and out of the club, I almost (but not really) feel sorry for those guys. Generally speaking they are paying top dollar for minimal service. Yes they look great but not really a good bet if you're just another trick.
DJprofessorK
01-27-23, 11:16
That strippers eventually come to see almost all men as marks, potential cash flow, or idiots who needed to be parted with their money.
I've never met a seasoned or experienced stripper who had a positive opinion of men or very many healthy relationships with them in their personal lives.
Just to add on to the stripper commentary. Overall I don't pursue them and if they say dancer in their profile I pass immediately. The reason being, out of my four regulars one has danced for 6 years and the other for 3 years. When I hear the way they talk about the customers they see in and out of the club, I almost (but not really) feel sorry for those guys. Generally speaking they are paying top dollar for minimal service. Yes they look great but not really a good bet if you're just another trick.
EagleLuver
01-27-23, 11:26
Strippers have a lifecycle that most go through from Newbie who try really hard to veterans who suck men dry to over the hill / stayed too long / out of the game where reality hits them that life is a lot harder with no skills and older / fading looks.
The final group can be great SB's or girlfriends. Before that, stay away.
That strippers eventually come to see almost all men as marks, potential cash flow, or idiots who needed to be parted with their money.
I've never met a seasoned or experienced stripper who had a positive opinion of men or very many healthy relationships with them in their personal lives.
Roy Munson
01-27-23, 14:00
I met up with her a few years ago when she advertised on Mojo. She went by Sophie or Sophia. She used to only be $$ for an hour. Her rates have gone up considerably. She is a nice girl. Looks just like her pics, at least she did back then. She is definitely worth $$, $$ seems like alot. Not sure I would go that high.After reading your post I did a google search and found Sophie's Mojo ad from 5 years ago. It has her number in the ad and it's the same number she's using now. Her SA profile is down, so if you want to contact her click the link below. Do a google search of her number and you'll find her other ads and pics. She also has some reviews on TER.
https://mojovillage.com/adult-18/companionsguides-women/sexy-lil-spinner-blonde-babe-quality-high-class-playmate-armcandy_122201
Roy Munson
01-27-23, 15:10
Have any of you had luck contacting this cute little pornstar in Henderson?
Her porn name is Allie Addison. Super cute and tiny. Just my type. Short curly hair. Mixed ethnicity.
https://members.seeking.com/member/7660c610-08d6-4d20-862d-7a7b2c99c41b
HollywoodGuy
01-27-23, 15:10
That strippers eventually come to see almost all men as marks, potential cash flow, or idiots who needed to be parted with their money.
I've never met a seasoned or experienced stripper who had a positive opinion of men or very many healthy relationships with them in their personal lives.Stripper dating life (only speaking about the ones I am dating now).
1 - tricks in the club - That's their job.
2 - tricks outside the club - Those guys pay 4 to 10 bills for robotic service and fake smiles at best. Plus dinners and maybe overnites.
3 - same age boyfriend - Usually a loser on some level and the girl gets treated like shit half the time.
4 - same age girlfriend - May or may not be a good relationship. But usually pretty normal.
5 - older guy (me) spends very little - Gets treated well, gets overnites. More of a daddy figure minus the sugar/ or pays a $ a date
DJprofessorK
01-27-23, 15:40
I can absolutely believe all of this.
Stripper dating life (only speaking about the ones I am dating now).
1 - tricks in the club - That's their job.
2 - tricks outside the club - Those guys pay 4 to 10 bills for robotic service and fake smiles at best. Plus dinners and maybe overnites.
3 - same age boyfriend - Usually a loser on some level and the girl gets treated like shit half the time.
4 - same age girlfriend - May or may not be a good relationship. But usually pretty normal.
5 - older guy (me) spends very little - Gets treated well, gets overnites. More of a daddy figure minus the sugar/ or pays a $ a date
After reading your post I did a google search and found Sophie's Mojo ad from 5 years ago. It has her number in the ad and it's the same number she's using now. Her SA profile is down, so if you want to contact her click the link below. Do a google search of her number and you'll find her other ads and pics. She also has some reviews on TER.
https://mojovillage.com/adult-18/companionsguides-women/sexy-lil-spinner-blonde-babe-quality-high-class-playmate-armcandy_122201Sophie is an unreliable see kunt. Super flaky and lies about where she's at, how long it will take to get to you, etc. Got stood up multiple times but it wasn't that bad because she was just coming to my hotel. Only bad thing was I could've been fucking other girls but I made time for her instead, and she blows me off.
PriceIsRight39
01-28-23, 22:49
This one was in town for AVN. Cam girl that is pimped. She took me for 600. Will tell you she going into porn to try and get you to pay her to stay out if you're dumb enough to fall for it!! Total scam. She's in Seattle. Live there. Letting the Seattle rob report blow over.
Ben warned.
https://members.seeking.com/member/f826f91b-bea9-44ff-a1c2-48746addf71a?_cf_ref=aHR0cDovL3d3dy51c2FzZXhndWlkZS5ubC8%3D
Sophie is an unreliable see kunt. Super flaky and lies about where she's at, how long it will take to get to you, etc. Got stood up multiple times but it wasn't that bad because she was just coming to my hotel. Only bad thing was I could've been fucking other girls but I made time for her instead, and she blows me off.I used to see her when she was $$ Hr. She was pretty reliable back than but she didn't have GPS ego five years ago. I always saw her at.
Incalls which were various hotels and apartments. The last time I saw her she tried to make me wait for her when we already agreed on a time.
I finally text her that I'm leaving now unless she opens the door. That was a pain but BBFS with her was great.
https://members.seeking.com/member/f9a44e38-7666-4b05-8ae4-2a02489bc632
Wants 500 for dinner, 1000 for fucking. Normally I'd tell her 1000 is doable for an all-day date with BBFS, but she's annoying and entitled to talk to. Told her good luck.
FourSeasons2
01-30-23, 09:13
Stripper dating life (only speaking about the ones I am dating now).
1 - tricks in the club - That's their job.
2 - tricks outside the club - Those guys pay 4 to 10 bills for robotic service and fake smiles at best. Plus dinners and maybe overnites.
3 - same age boyfriend - Usually a loser on some level and the girl gets treated like shit half the time.
4 - same age girlfriend - May or may not be a good relationship. But usually pretty normal.
5 - older guy (me) spends very little - Gets treated well, gets overnites. More of a daddy figure minus the sugar/ or pays a $ a dateGood info but its hard to distinguish between #2 and #5 in my experience.
NapataJohn
01-30-23, 11:24
https://members.seeking.com/member/f9a44e38-7666-4b05-8ae4-2a02489bc632
Wants 500 for dinner, 1000 for fucking. Normally I'd tell her 1000 is doable for an all-day date with BBFS, but she's annoying and entitled to talk to. Told her good luck.Thanks. I will not message her. Dodged a bullet there!!
HollywoodGuy
01-30-23, 19:32
Good info but its hard to distinguish between #2 and #5 in my experience.The difference is #2 is way more expensive and either a drugged up girl or just doesn't really want to be there. #5 is more like true GFE with either no pay (other than normal dating expenses) or very low pay.
The difference is #2 is way more expensive and either a drugged up girl or just doesn't really want to be there. #5 is more like true GFE with either no pay (other than normal dating expenses) or very low pay.I've had a mixture of 2 and 5 before. Really high pay request, but spent the night fucking and cuddling and genuinely seemed to enjoy it, was convulsing and legs quivering after cumming.
HollywoodGuy
01-31-23, 14:35
I've had a mixture of 2 and 5 before. Really high pay request, but spent the night fucking and cuddling and genuinely seemed to enjoy it, was convulsing and legs quivering after cumming.It's def a numbers game. You never know when you are gonna strike gold.
I searched through the thread for answers, but couldn't really find anything. How are you guys opening? I tried a few variations of things so far, but have received few responses. Just wondering how I can change things up again.
I searched through the thread for answers, but couldn't really find anything. How are you guys opening? I tried a few variations of things so far, but have received few responses. Just wondering how I can change things up again.Definitely just say "hey. " Or better yet, just request their private pics if they have any. Best ways to open, guaranteed.
HollywoodGuy
02-03-23, 17:14
I searched through the thread for answers, but couldn't really find anything. How are you guys opening? I tried a few variations of things so far, but have received few responses. Just wondering how I can change things up again.I have two openers. One is for the girls I perceive as very new (long intro) and one for the girls that look seasoned (short intro). Copy and paste for both.
FarFarAway
02-03-23, 19:14
Definitely just say "hey. " Or better yet, just request their private pics if they have any. Best ways to open, guaranteed.He is gaslighting you.
He is gaslighting you.I figured. Thanks to everyone who has responded seriously thus far.
He is gaslighting you.Did they invent the term "gaslighting" because people don't understand sarcasm anymore?
https://www.secretbenefits.com/next/profile/d6a9f49349c37549
I asked her to meet at a starbucks and wanted to be payed just to meet, FYI.
LordLilith on SA is a scammer. Avoid. https://members.seeking.com/member/1da32fa4-d3ce-479b-a97d-add81b7a8368.
Roy Munson
02-11-23, 13:19
https://members.seeking.com/member/c510c147-1d5b-48ac-861c-a4782e5e10ca
This one is more ghetto than you would expect from her profile pic. Her Snap stories show her with a bunch of black guys. They're either her friends or her handlers. I did not see her and don't plan to.
https://members.seeking.com/member/79d05460-3ab1-4bd0-889b-775f3db3a4f1
Just wants to come over and spend a few hours for ppm, wants money in an envelope by the door. 3500 for 3 hours. I laughed and told her 3500 is a weekend for most girls on Seeking, then she started getting nasty and calling me fat and broke.
https://members.seeking.com/member/79d05460-3ab1-4bd0-889b-775f3db3a4f1
Just wants to come over and spend a few hours for ppm, wants money in an envelope by the door. 3500 for 3 hours. I laughed and told her 3500 is a weekend for most girls on Seeking, then she started getting nasty and calling me fat and broke.I don't know if anyone else has noticed but I've noticed a lot of SA girls want a lot of money for doing virtually nothing.
https://members.seeking.com/member/e2cd60b3-f46b-47e1-83fc-6fbfaf3ee4c1
Talked over the date, mentioned having a romantic time. Nothing was discussed money-wise, but then I thought better of it and brought it up to be safe. She says 500 PPM which is in my normal range. I tell her I'm sterile and have clean STD tests, and she says intimacy is 500 more, the first 500 is just dinner.
Told her good luck.
https://members.seeking.com/member/e2cd60b3-f46b-47e1-83fc-6fbfaf3ee4c1
Talked over the date, mentioned having a romantic time. Nothing was discussed money-wise, but then I thought better of it and brought it up to be safe. She says 500 PPM which is in my normal range. I tell her I'm sterile and have clean STD tests, and she says intimacy is 500 more, the first 500 is just dinner.
Told her good luck.Maybe it's me but that's doesn't sound so crazy. And if she's attractive then I'd bite.
Maybe it's me but that's doesn't sound so crazy. And if she's attractive then I'd bite.1 k for 3 hours might be cheaper than what she can charge as an escort (500+/ hr) but for SA, it's expensive. 1 k is normally 5-6 hours at least for me, dinner + 3-4 hours in bed.
Plus with her attitude, BBFS is 100% either a no go or more expensive.
HolyStone1975
02-13-23, 10:36
1 k for 3 hours might be cheaper than what she can charge as an escort (500+/ hr) but for SA, it's expensive. 1 k is normally 5-6 hours at least for me, dinner + 3-4 hours in bed.
Plus with her attitude, BBFS is 100% either a no go or more expensive.So, if my math is correct here, you want to give her about 175-200 per hour, including bedroom time and BBFS? (1000/5 or 6 hours = 200 - 175) Even if you take out the dinner part and just focus on the bedroom part it would still be 250-333 per hours for, presumably, BBFS sex since you mention that all the time.
So, if my math is correct here, you want to give her about 175-200 per hour, including bedroom time and BBFS? (1000/5 or 6 hours = 200 - 175) Even if you take out the dinner part and just focus on the bedroom part it would still be 250-333 per hours for, presumably, BBFS sex since you mention that all the time.But if all goes well, she might actually enjoy your company and stay 4,5 maybe the night.
It's all up to you and how you play your hand. Salesman's approach. Just get them in through the door.
CrackedWheat
02-13-23, 12:33
So, if my math is correct here, you want to give her about 175-200 per hour, including bedroom time and BBFS? (1000/5 or 6 hours = 200 - 175) Even if you take out the dinner part and just focus on the bedroom part it would still be 250-333 per hours for, presumably, BBFS sex since you mention that all the time.You're math is correct your reading comprehension and logic is broken. He was comparing her to what he sees as the going sugar rate he's willing to pay. If she wants to advertise on escort sites there is a going rate. If she wants to be on sugar sites it's a different audience. He didn't say it's what he "wants" he said what he's used to paying.
Gallop along WK.
CW.
So, if my math is correct here, you want to give her about 175-200 per hour, including bedroom time and BBFS? (1000/5 or 6 hours = 200 - 175) Even if you take out the dinner part and just focus on the bedroom part it would still be 250-333 per hours for, presumably, BBFS sex since you mention that all the time.Yes. I get many arrangements with girls in the 500-1000 range that are for dinner and BBFS. Exactly how long that lasts depends on the person, I'm not timing them. I just tell them up front that I hate rushed dates, so I hope we can hang out for a couple hours when we get back from dinner.
It's not all fucking, we cuddle, maybe nap, maybe watch TV, maybe drink more in the room, etc.
HolyStone1975
02-13-23, 16:35
You're math is correct your reading comprehension and logic is broken. He was comparing her to what he sees as the going sugar rate he's willing to pay. If she wants to advertise on escort sites there is a going rate. If she wants to be on sugar sites it's a different audience. He didn't say it's what he "wants" he said what he's used to paying.
Gallop along WK.
CW.My reading comprehension is fine, JO. He said for $1000 he wants / expects / hopes for 4-5 hours including dinner and bedroom time.
My reading comprehension is fine, JO. He said for $1000 he wants / expects / hopes for 4-5 hours including dinner and bedroom time.I don't give allowance up front, so if they say all the right things, then get to the room and act like kunts and starfish for 20 minutes before saying "I'm done, give me my money," then I tell them to take a hike. It's what happened a bunch of posts ago where I reported a girl who stole my shoes. She came in, and was ready to go in 30 min, and I laughed when she asked for allowance.
Yea sometimes there will be cases on the fence where the sex wasn't that good, or she only stayed for 90 minutes or whatever instead of 2-3 hours, and in those cases I make a call on whether to just give the full amount, give less, or try to talk them into more on the spot, like doing anal if they want the full amount or something.
So yes, I want / expect / hope for a certain experience, but I do have some measures if they try to take advantage of me.
https://members.seeking.com/member/9129e4d2-e79f-4e53-b9b8-595a640de960
Anyone met her? Keeps throwing up health issues and is very tough to get a hold of, but she's exactly my type.
https://members.seeking.com/member/07cf5abe-d64f-43e6-9e96-8e12d5b9046e
Shows up 1. 5 h late. Get to the room, her breath stinks of weed or cigs. Asks for the money up front after making a little small talk, and I say I can't do that until the end, been taken advantage of. She says if I want to do anything, she needs the payment now, or she's leaving. I tell her to go ahead, and she walks.
Roy Munson
02-15-23, 23:50
I don't give allowance up front, so if they say all the right things, then get to the room and act like kunts and starfish for 20 minutes before saying "I'm done, give me my money," then I tell them to take a hike. It's what happened a bunch of posts ago where I reported a girl who stole my shoes. She came in, and was ready to go in 30 min, and I laughed when she asked for allowance.
Yea sometimes there will be cases on the fence where the sex wasn't that good, or she only stayed for 90 minutes or whatever instead of 2-3 hours, and in those cases I make a call on whether to just give the full amount, give less, or try to talk them into more on the spot, like doing anal if they want the full amount or something.
So yes, I want / expect / hope for a certain experience, but I do have some measures if they try to take advantage of me.Exactly.
Guys, Never give the money upfront.
A real SA girl will never ask for the money upfront.
Only pros will.
Curious if anyone has experience with her.
https://members.seeking.com/member/2d1a6056-04d7-4ddc-bb2d-9bc4812f53b5
Curious if anyone has experience with her.
https://members.seeking.com/member/2d1a6056-04d7-4ddc-bb2d-9bc4812f53b5I think someone reviewed her in this section a while back and if I remember correctly the review wasn't that good.
Onecurious
02-17-23, 18:04
As a frequent visitor to the Vegas area I've come across these 3 profiles I'm pretty certain are scammers of some type. Every one of them reached out to me and after my first reply I got the same exact message copied and pasted "I don't use this app usually. May I send message to you? If possible, could you please let me know your contact details?" I didn't respond to any of them as I've been doing this long enough to know it's not likely to lead to anything fruitful. Hopefully will trade some info to Senior members if you have experience with any blonde / brunnette slender / athletic builds.
https://members.seeking.com/member/c424e22d-b5e5-4ad4-8cdd-a83bfe98b9a6
https://members.seeking.com/member/e91e4a21-87ab-4540-941c-e0d00b4a637c
https://members.seeking.com/member/60e6ba3f-36db-4f44-8490-d598bce2989b
https://members.seeking.com/member/da1a2975-6d05-4e8f-b01c-143f320ea3b2
May have posted this girl under a different profile before. Asks for "prebooking" which is just sending them money beforehand. Obvious scam.
As a frequent visitor to the Vegas area I've come across these 3 profiles I'm pretty certain are scammers of some type. Every one of them reached out to me and after my first reply I got the same exact message copied and pasted "I don't use this app usually. May I send message to you? If possible, could you please let me know your contact details?" I didn't respond to any of them as I've been doing this long enough to know it's not likely to lead to anything fruitful. Hopefully will trade some info to Senior members if you have experience with any blonde / brunnette slender / athletic builds.
https://members.seeking.com/member/c424e22d-b5e5-4ad4-8cdd-a83bfe98b9a6
https://members.seeking.com/member/e91e4a21-87ab-4540-941c-e0d00b4a637c
https://members.seeking.com/member/60e6ba3f-36db-4f44-8490-d598bce2989bNote also that the faces are cut off often. Also the next line is often a couple hours later if you say yes. Something to the effect of that's good (I can't remember the exact phrase).
The first text will say what location or what city or where are you. Then they want your address. After you give the address then comes the gas money / babysitter money / safety deposit. But don't worry I only need half up front. You can trust me I am not a scammer like the other girls.
Note also that the faces are cut off often. Also the next line is often a couple hours later if you say yes. Something to the effect of that's good (I can't remember the exact phrase).
The first text will say what location or what city or where are you. Then they want your address. After you give the address then comes the gas money / babysitter money / safety deposit. But don't worry I only need half up front. You can trust me I am not a scammer like the other girls.The funniest part is when you tell them other girls have scammed you using the same methods, and they respond with what you mentioned, "I'm not like other girls. ".
Onecurious
02-19-23, 00:46
In town thru March Madness and met up with Jessie:
The good: she replied and showed up on time. Very talkative and we spent about an hour at the bar having drinks before heading upstairs.
The bad: I've seen her before prior to Covid and she's definitely starting to go downhill looks wise.
The bottom line: She's real, she's fun but I think there's some demons compared to previous visits. Once she is tipsy she's pretty wild in the bedroom and open to most things. Damage was 350 in casino play but I got bonus spins, YMMV.
https://members.seeking.com/member/74f6ba35-d4e0-4f82-bb9b-09811a676f04
Lmk any info you might have on blonde / brunnette slender / avg shaped women. PM is fine. Willing to share other info.
HollywoodGuy
02-20-23, 18:58
Red flag.
https://members.seeking.com/member/cf28608d-95d4-4f55-a8d7-694deba1f06a
https://members.seeking.com/member/df95e263-23aa-4281-8a1a-a5e3d5160db0
https://members.seeking.com/member/9dbb3682-baec-431a-8a94-5b3f94cec29a
https://members.seeking.com/member/9129e4d2-e79f-4e53-b9b8-595a640de960
Did video calls and sent hot content while promising to meet. Eventually comes up with a story about being in pain and not having money for her meds, several hundred dollars worth. I send her the money for more content, and while she sends more, it's much less than the value of the money.
Eventually goes quiet, hasn't talked to me for a few days.
Roy Munson
02-24-23, 23:16
Blondebaby
40, mom, white, slim.
Wants 400 for 1 hour with a cover.
If you can show test results she'll do bare for 800.
(I don't plan on seeing her).
HollywoodGuy
02-25-23, 21:09
Blondebaby
40, mom, white, slim.
Wants 400 for 1 hour with a cover.
If you can show test results she'll do bare for 800.
(I don't plan on seeing her).You would def be better off fucking two 20 y.o. for $$ each.
FarFarAway
03-02-23, 11:06
Hitting your town in a week for several days of business. I have taken my usual approach and blasted out a bunch of messages, respectful and gentlemanly. Offering a date and potential future dates back in CA. I am overwhelmed with the amount of responses. To be sure, there are a lot of profiles that say 'contact me when you are in town', which I take as simple escorts. I have been chatting w / several attractive and nice gals, however, aged 23-43, and I expect to have all of the poontang I can handle while I am there.
Citrus1999
03-02-23, 16:31
Hitting your town in a week for several days of business. I have taken my usual approach and blasted out a bunch of messages, respectful and gentlemanly. Offering a date and potential future dates back in CA. I am overwhelmed with the amount of responses. To be sure, there are a lot of profiles that say 'contact me when you are in town', which I take as simple escorts. I have been chatting w / several attractive and nice gals, however, aged 23-43, and I expect to have all of the poontang I can handle while I am there.Funny I'm doing the same. Visiting next weekend (for pleasure) and got premium just to get some dates. Vegas girls def seem way more eager so far on texts, but as we know it's never a sure thing until then and there.
Hitting your town in a week for several days of business. I have taken my usual approach and blasted out a bunch of messages, respectful and gentlemanly. Offering a date and potential future dates back in CA. I am overwhelmed with the amount of responses. To be sure, there are a lot of profiles that say 'contact me when you are in town', which I take as simple escorts. I have been chatting w / several attractive and nice gals, however, aged 23-43, and I expect to have all of the poontang I can handle while I am there.
Funny I'm doing the same. Visiting next weekend (for pleasure) and got premium just to get some dates. Vegas girls def seem way more eager so far on texts, but as we know it's never a sure thing until then and there.Yea I have way better luck in Vegas with way hotter chicks than I do back home in DC.
HollywoodGuy
03-03-23, 01:12
You know vegas is very small compared to L. A. population / geographically. I estimated a while back that per capita vegas has about 3 times as many girls as L. A. But that still means there are about 70% less overall. Still not too hard to get a girl to go out (they love going out) and very few logistical problems by comparison. In L. A. If you are within 30 minutes from a girl that's considered pretty reasonable. The max about of time to drive from the farthest points in vegas is at most 45 minutes. So if you are on the strip you are normally going to be at most 20 minutes from anyone (and many times 10 or 15).
Dinner? don't like the strip? Just drive down spring mtn rd. Lots of cool asian places and then head back to the room.
Can someone explain this one to me.
https://members.seeking.com/member/4b888102-9d10-46d3-bb7b-fa780ea94564
Can someone explain this one to me.
https://members.seeking.com/member/4b888102-9d10-46d3-bb7b-fa780ea94564She's not Asian. Other than that. I don't see anything wrong.
PriceIsRight39
03-03-23, 21:17
She's not Asian. Other than that. I don't see anything wrong.And she's slim!! Niceeeee!
And she's slim!! Niceeeee!She is results-oriented.
WhiteSun777
03-07-23, 01:54
https://members.seeking.com/member/f9a44e38-7666-4b05-8ae4-2a02489bc632
Wants 500 for dinner, 1000 for fucking. Normally I'd tell her 1000 is doable for an all-day date with BBFS, but she's annoying and entitled to talk to. Told her good luck.I've been out of the game for awhile, is this really the going rate for 2023 now??
Someone (not via seek) quoted 1 k for an hour. I thought that was insane!
I've been out of the game for awhile, is this really the going rate for 2023 now??
Someone (not via seek) quoted 1 k for an hour. I thought that was insane!The rates are all over the place, but mostly cluster around 500-800 for me. This is for dinner + 2-3 hours at least, BBFS. Some outliers at 1000, but I've never gotten lower than 500, unfortunately.
Onecurious
03-07-23, 14:16
The rates are all over the place, but mostly cluster around 500-800 for me. This is for dinner + 2-3 hours at least, BBFS. Some outliers at 1000, but I've never gotten lower than 500, unfortunately.As a frequent visitor and being here the past few weeks the rates have gone from 300 to what seems to be at least 500 Post Covid. I'm sure you can find a few for 300 if you messaged everyone but I've only been able to pay that rate with ones I've been seeing since pre-Covid. Any new ones are quoting high but I've been able to find plenty of what type I'm looking for around 500. I think if the economy continues to worsen then 300-400 might come back as the norm.
PriceIsRight39
03-07-23, 22:00
I've been out of the game for awhile, is this really the going rate for 2023 now??
Someone (not via seek) quoted 1 k for an hour. I thought that was insane!Don't pay that fellas. These girls aren't worth it!! The hot ones aren't that great after all. I got Korean love for 500. Shower, BBBJ, My corn hole licked and Bls AND BBFS!! These seeking broads would never do that for 1000!! If I can find one to see regular I'd give more. They're all so flaky and have been told they're " queens " by simps on social media the heads are enormous!
PriceIsRight39
03-08-23, 13:06
As a frequent visitor and being here the past few weeks the rates have gone from 300 to what seems to be at least 500 Post Covid. I'm sure you can find a few for 300 if you messaged everyone but I've only been able to pay that rate with ones I've been seeing since pre-Covid. Any new ones are quoting high but I've been able to find plenty of what type I'm looking for around 500. I think if the economy continues to worsen then 300-400 might come back as the norm.These women need an economic smack down to reality!
PriceIsRight39
03-08-23, 13:12
As a frequent visitor and being here the past few weeks the rates have gone from 300 to what seems to be at least 500 Post Covid. I'm sure you can find a few for 300 if you messaged everyone but I've only been able to pay that rate with ones I've been seeing since pre-Covid. Any new ones are quoting high but I've been able to find plenty of what type I'm looking for around 500. I think if the economy continues to worsen then 300-400 might come back as the norm.These women need an economic smack down to reality!
HollywoodGuy
03-08-23, 16:19
Nice profile if you like em thick.
https://members.seeking.com/member/7a9be3ba-10a4-48c7-8d98-a295674e50cf
WhiteSun777
03-08-23, 22:59
Don't pay that fellas. These girls aren't worth it!! The hot ones aren't that great after all. I got Korean love for 500. Shower, BBBJ, My corn hole licked and Bls AND BBFS!! These seeking broads would never do that for 1000!! If I can find one to see regular I'd give more. They're all so flaky and have been told they're " queens " by simps on social media the heads are enormous!Thank you for all the pricing info. I'm going to try and get more data (via seek) and see what happens. I'm down for 500 if the girl is solid.
And agreed on the Korean love, you get more BANG for your buck! (No pun intended).
Thank you for all the pricing info. I'm going to try and get more data (via seek) and see what happens. I'm down for 500 if the girl is solid.
And agreed on the Korean love, you get more BANG for your buck! (No pun intended).There are too many simps on SA these days paying the girls whatever they ask. Basically, there are way too many guys desperate for sex and none of them have game. They are all offering 500+ which is why girls think 500 is the minimum price. Even the fugly ones. If you want less than 500 you need the skill to find her in the wild.
Roy Munson
03-09-23, 12:43
She's been on SA for almost 5 years.
26 yo, white, slim.
She initially said she wants $1 K per meet but is flexible.
She will come down to 600. Maybe 500. She said no to 300.
Seems friendly, but I did not meet her due to the rate. We did not discuss any other details.
PriceIsRight39
03-09-23, 13:04
There are too many simps on SA these days paying the girls whatever they ask. Basically, there are way too many guys desperate for sex and none of them have game. They are all offering 500+ which is why girls think 500 is the minimum price. Even the fugly ones. If you want less than 500 you need the skill to find her in the wild.True. But game is dead too! Unless your Pookie! LOL Yes Simping is a disease and it getting worse.
HollywoodGuy
03-09-23, 15:42
There are too many simps on SA these days paying the girls whatever they ask. Basically, there are way too many guys desperate for sex and none of them have game. They are all offering 500+ which is why girls think 500 is the minimum price. Even the fugly ones. If you want less than 500 you need the skill to find her in the wild.This is so true. But still many good girls looking for more than just the cash.
FarFarAway
03-09-23, 21:03
Thank you for all the pricing info. I'm going to try and get more data (via seek) and see what happens. I'm down for 500 if the girl is solid.
And agreed on the Korean love, you get more BANG for your buck! (No pun intended).I met a 23 YO girl off seeking for a drink. No other pre-negotiations, but I did phone her for a brief chat before I got to Vegas. Built some connection. We got on just fine in person, I asked her if she wanted the evening to continue. She was interested, and asked about 'her competition' (past SBs). I related that when I was here last year I saw a girl and gave her 300. She said she has never done less than 500. I didn't immediately say yes, we did talk some more further, she does have a regular 'daddy' of sorts who she just hangs w / when he gets high. Oh, well.
Anyway, I did eventually invite her to my room, her body wasn't that hot, but her face was very nice, long blond hair, and she got very excited (I don't think she got off). She didn't kiss other than pecks, that is a deal-breaker for me. I won't see her again, I recommend against. She did ask before she left if I wanted to see her again, I was ambiguous about my schedule.
WhiteSun777
03-11-23, 05:48
There are too many simps on SA these days paying the girls whatever they ask. Basically, there are way too many guys desperate for sex and none of them have game. They are all offering 500+ which is why girls think 500 is the minimum price. Even the fugly ones. If you want less than 500 you need the skill to find her in the wild.That's crazy talk, pricing used to be 500 MAX now that seems to be the MIN.
I just got back on seek, is it me or has it been dead (somewhat?) Things seem to have slowed down.
I haven't got anything setup yet. There's one solid lead but she's way out east coast so we haven't even got down to M&G yet. But I have a gut feeling she's a catfish.
That's crazy talk, pricing used to be 500 MAX now that seems to be the MIN.
I just got back on seek, is it me or has it been dead (somewhat?) Things seem to have slowed down.
I haven't got anything setup yet. There's one solid lead but she's way out east coast so we haven't even got down to M&G yet. But I have a gut feeling she's a catfish.My experience has been slightly different. In the past month, I found a few that have been good with 200. Others have asked for 3. The 5-1000's have been very rare. This is on SB.
On SA, anytime I click anyone's link, the profile isn't available, and when I search, the choices are very very limited. Not sure why that is or if anyone has experienced the same, but I can't say anything in regards to the amounts there as a result.
WhiteSun777
03-14-23, 00:11
My experience has been slightly different. In the past month, I found a few that have been good with 200. Others have asked for 3. The 5-1000's have been very rare. This is on SB.
On SA, anytime I click anyone's link, the profile isn't available, and when I search, the choices are very very limited. Not sure why that is or if anyone has experienced the same, but I can't say anything in regards to the amounts there as a result.I'm done with SA, I had a feeling she's catfish and should not wasted my time but whatever. Trying SB for the first time so let's see how that goes.
I'm done with SA, I had a feeling she's catfish and should not wasted my time but whatever. Trying SB for the first time so let's see how that goes.I took a break from SA a few months back. I kept getting quotes of 500 just to have dinner dates at a restaurant. Maybe there's too many conventioneers in town this Winter and Spring driving up the prices.
HollywoodGuy
03-14-23, 21:32
I think one of the main things I do on seeking to be successful is to send out tons of messages knowing there will be a lot of GPS. Like my friend used to say. "if you have the quantity there will be some quality in there".
WhiteSun777
03-15-23, 22:54
I took a break from SA a few months back. I kept getting quotes of 500 just to have dinner dates at a restaurant. Maybe there's too many conventioneers in town this Winter and Spring driving up the prices.It's dead over at SA, newbie at SB so I'm seeing a lot of new faces (some of course from SA too) Getting something setup soon, will report back how it goes.
WhiteSun777
03-16-23, 01:49
It's dead over at SA, newbie at SB so I'm seeing a lot of new faces (some of course from SA too) Getting something setup soon, will report back how it goes.Oh yes this one is solid, 500 ppm.
https://www.secretbenefits.com/next/profile/fb3803e6e78cc797
Non-rush, 2 1/ hours YMMV.
Oh yes this one is solid, 500 ppm.
https://www.secretbenefits.com/next/profile/fb3803e6e78cc797
Non-rush, 2 1/ hours YMMV.Glad you're having a better experience on SB. Just have to be a little careful with the credits.
WhiteSun777
03-16-23, 23:13
Glad you're having a better experience on SB. Just have to be a little careful with the credits.Thank you still getting the hang of SB. Yes it's a gamble to unlock then to find out they ignore you later.
WhiteSun777
03-19-23, 21:48
Thank you still getting the hang of SB. Yes it's a gamble to unlock then to find out they ignore you later.Here you go so you don't waste credits.
This one said she doesn't even have a number, really?
https://www.secretbenefits.com/next/profile/8c0aee847dc50989
These sent me msgs but then GHOST.
https://www.secretbenefits.com/next/profile/c34b0f2d3cd4a6cd
https://www.secretbenefits.com/next/profile/ebcfbe723088e41a
https://www.secretbenefits.com/next/profile/2326ce934b4144b0
https://www.secretbenefits.com/next/profile/18b248e12c55e192
https://www.secretbenefits.com/next/profile/2d7b8f38cc09d335
This one is solid although a bit thicker and a bit young.
https://www.secretbenefits.com/next/profile/8fb1e6a61b13a2d1
Here you go so you don't waste credits.
This one said she doesn't even have a number, really?
https://www.secretbenefits.com/next/profile/8c0aee847dc50989
These sent me msgs but then GHOST.
https://www.secretbenefits.com/next/profile/c34b0f2d3cd4a6cd
https://www.secretbenefits.com/next/profile/ebcfbe723088e41a
https://www.secretbenefits.com/next/profile/2326ce934b4144b0
https://www.secretbenefits.com/next/profile/18b248e12c55e192
https://www.secretbenefits.com/next/profile/2d7b8f38cc09d335
This one is solid although a bit thicker and a bit young.This one will reply in a week or two. She wants $4500 to do anything though, so I wouldn't waste time there.
https://www.secretbenefits.com/next/profile/2326ce934b4144b0
Maybe someone will separate this topic. I would never condone debauchcery but here are some results.
Linaisloving 600 ppm.
Cth171 : not what this site is for.
Athenae_856 500 for less than full service.
Prettyangel_111 start at 500.
Reallolababy is real and maybe a friend of mine might of seen her. Wink wink.
Has some affordable options and some unaffordable ones.
WhiteSun777
03-22-23, 21:43
Reminds me of my ex sb a bit.
https://www.secretbenefits.com/next/profile/485c7f9a5ba856de
500 ppm.
WhiteSun777
03-24-23, 22:58
https://www.secretbenefits.com/next/profile/62ff596218f5b76e
500 ppm but I sense she wanted more.
WhiteSun777
03-25-23, 00:09
https://www.secretbenefits.com/next/profile/363f6c0a9cfac069
Wanted 800 ppm initially but will settle for 500 ppm.
FreeBird999
03-25-23, 13:51
https://members.seeking.com/member/7770a0fb-692a-4fe8-a411-f01567cd0cc1
She is real and a sweetheart. Treat her with respect, don't discuss allowance, just meet her and have fun.
The SB rates have gotten completely out of control. I have not renewed any of my memberships because of the rates you all keep finding and posting. Is 500 the new baseline?
WhiteSun777
03-25-23, 23:09
Not ghost but conversation didn't go anywhere, waste of time.
https://www.secretbenefits.com/next/profile/97c98dab12534e7b
https://www.secretbenefits.com/next/profile/be662fae2ca6fa1e
https://www.secretbenefits.com/next/profile/51d0f6eeaa14c2e0
GHOSTed, complete waste of credits.
https://www.secretbenefits.com/next/profile/d7d53b56a067b6a6
https://www.secretbenefits.com/next/profile/7dbaeaaad74e879d
I don't know lately I look closer to the ones that sent me BOOSTed msgs. Although most I wasn't interested.
WhiteSun777
03-25-23, 23:11
The SB rates have gotten completely out of control. I have not renewed any of my memberships because of the rates you all keep finding and posting. Is 500 the new baseline?The max you can take out from ATM seems to be the new baseline.
I did find ONE that was ok with 400 but didn't pan out.
WhiteSun777
03-25-23, 23:20
https://www.secretbenefits.com/next/profile/62ff596218f5b76e
500 ppm but I sense she wanted more.Pulled the trigger finally, it was a gamble but she's solid. This one is not on-time unlike Lola (she was on the dot) Looks MUCH better in person than her photos, I was afraid she was thicker but she's FIT! Huge T&A very nice. Very down to earth but kept it professional. Was only for the hour so it seems a bit rushed but most time were spent doing the FUN stuff.
She even asked for feedback at the end.
HolyStone1975
03-26-23, 10:48
Pulled the trigger finally, it was a gamble but she's solid. This one is not on-time unlike Lola (she was on the dot) Looks MUCH better in person than her photos, I was afraid she was thicker but she's FIT! Huge T&A very nice. Very down to earth but kept it professional. Was only for the hour so it seems a bit rushed but most time were spent doing the FUN stuff.
She even asked for feedback at the end.What kind of rules did she have?
The max you can take out from ATM seems to be the new baseline.
I did find ONE that was ok with 400 but didn't pan out.Most of the girls I have talked to in the last week have asked for 400. But I just tell them I can only do 3. They usually accept.
This will ask for 4, but was ok with 3. YMMV.
https://www.secretbenefits.com/next/profile/882cc1907d6c9244
This will ask for for 350, but was ok with 250 when offered. YMMV.
https://www.secretbenefits.com/next/profile/6a0c947e44f17d46
WhiteSun777
03-27-23, 02:48
What kind of rules did she have?Go easy with the girls. And you get to put on your own cover.
HollywoodGuy
04-01-23, 19:01
Messaged her for a bit but she declined my usual offer. Said she is good for $$$ and knows I am posting this here. If you hit her up just say you got her rate from Hollywood. Most likely you can negotiate it down a bit. But your YMMV on that as always. Please do not ask for her digits, just hit her up on seeking.
https://members.seeking.com/member/273bdff1-edb4-4cc3-8c32-d6c8330f0860
I doubt I will be posting much for a while as I paused my seeking account for 3 months due to having 3 solid regulars that I am happy with for now.
Met up with this one last year when I was living for a while in Vegas. Chatted her up on SA and we agreed on $600 for the evening. I had offered max $500 but she was not budging. Anyway wanted to taste this one, so I pulled the trigger. At the time she had just gone through a divorce with a cop, and if I remember correctly she has a couple of young kids. I normally don't like to meet up with girls that have kids just to avoid all the drama etc. We ended up meeting up at the Kassi Beach Club at the Virgin Hotel for a couple of drinks and get the vibe going. This place by the way is a great place to meet up with birds to get the atmosphere right. We had a great time and connected, then headed back to my place for some fun and more vodka shots. Headed up to the bedroom and started off with DFK followed by some Deepthroat. Then proceed to go to pound town on her (she insisted on covered FS) and did a little bit of anal action, although I felt that she was a bit reluctant and would be more open on a second date.
https://members.seeking.com/member/296d6753-82be-41ca-8d49-421772744230
Overall 7. 5/10. Looks 7/10, personality 8/10, BBBJ, CFS, CIM and some anal action.
If I was into repeating, I probably would but I tend to avoid repeats so did not try it a second time.
Another report from SA during my time last year in Vegas.
https://members.seeking.com/member/4b8d2454-9bb4-489f-9010-a092f3a74bdf
Chatted up this chick and met up with her at the Kassi Beach Club (per my previous post, go to place for chill atmosphere and to get the vibe going). We had the usual drinks and shots and headed back to my place. Her pictures do look much better than in person, and seem to be heavily filtered or photoshopped. She claims to not have any kids but her boobs have stretch marks, so I do think she may have had a couple. Anyway somewhat dissapointing meetup as she is definetly a Pro and from what she was telling me makes most of her money living off the site. Everything covered even did not want to touch my balls with her mouth. Basically no skin to mouth contact. Although she was fun to hang out with, definitely a major disappointment in the bedroom. Seeking has provided a great GFE experiences in the past, but I tend to avoid the PRO / escort types but of course ths is difficult to determine up front.
Overall 5/10. Looks in person 6. 5/10. All covered and no GFE. Would not repeat.
Catching up on my Vegas time on here. Next one up was Stellalovexo from SA. Met her last year on the site and when she was 19. If I recall we agreed to $500 for the night out and fun. Met up with her at the Mandalay Bay at one of the bars, can't remember which one initially but we ended up at the Sky lounge for some drinks and a great vibe. I also can't recall if she had a fake I'd or did not get I'd on the drinks, but most likely not I'd since she was together with a refined gentlemen and they would not want to embarrass us hehehe. After some drinks and chatting we ended up back at my place, starting off with some GFE french kissing and some deep throat. Went to town on her doggy style and had her ride me including some reverse cowboy. I don't think I tried anal but I think based on her personality she would be open to it. Finished in her mouth and made her swallow my load, which she happily did.
https://members.seeking.com/member/a7ab0c75-aee2-4586-8ffd-ebd1e2e8bf20
Overall experience 7. 5/10, looks in person 7/10, nice curves and ass. BBBJ, BBFS, CIM with Swallow and my guess CIP if I wanted to. Damage 500 buckos.
Supers4972
04-02-23, 14:07
I have been chatting with this young lady the last few days. Not sure on pulling the trigger. She wanted $$ and no anal or bb.
She is hot but there are better options.
https://www.secretbenefits.com/next/profile/31461bf9dc09d949
I have been chatting with this young lady the last few days. Not sure on pulling the trigger. She wanted $$ and no anal or bb.
She is hot but there are better options.
https://www.secretbenefits.com/next/profile/31461bf9dc09d949I saw her. She's not bad, but also not great. YMMV on how much she's willing to take. She quoted someone else $$ when I initially tried to share her.
On a side note, don't waste your time on this one. She will ask for deposit.
https://www.secretbenefits.com/next/profile/bf8842faee489892
WhiteSun777
04-02-23, 23:12
I have been chatting with this young lady the last few days. Not sure on pulling the trigger. She wanted $$ and no anal or bb.
She is hot but there are better options.
https://www.secretbenefits.com/next/profile/31461bf9dc09d949I swear I don't get it, I got quoted 400 for this one, didn't get a good vibe from her based on texting so I passed.
WhiteSun777
04-02-23, 23:14
Met up with this one last year when I was living for a while in Vegas. Chatted her up on SA and we agreed on $600 for the evening. I had offered max $500 but she was not budging. Anyway wanted to taste this one, so I pulled the trigger. At the time she had just gone through a divorce with a cop, and if I remember correctly she has a couple of young kids. I normally don't like to meet up with girls that have kids just to avoid all the drama etc. We ended up meeting up at the Kassi Beach Club at the Virgin Hotel for a couple of drinks and get the vibe going. This place by the way is a great place to meet up with birds to get the atmosphere right. We had a great time and connected, then headed back to my place for some fun and more vodka shots. Headed up to the bedroom and started off with DFK followed by some Deepthroat. Then proceed to go to pound town on her (she insisted on covered FS) and did a little bit of anal action, although I felt that she was a bit reluctant and would be more open on a second date.
https://members.seeking.com/member/296d6753-82be-41ca-8d49-421772744230
Overall 7. 5/10. Looks 7/10, personality 8/10, BBBJ, CFS, CIM and some anal action.
If I was into repeating, I probably would but I tend to avoid repeats so did not try it a second time.Appreciate the detailed review. Same here it's tough to repeat (especially if it's already 500-600 ppm) DFK is always a good start, but based off my previous luck, I'm sure she wanted 800 with me.
HelloMundo
04-03-23, 13:18
https://members.seeking.com/member/9129e4d2-e79f-4e53-b9b8-595a640de960
Anyone met her? Keeps throwing up health issues and is very tough to get a hold of, but she's exactly my type.She's a scammer.
I have had multiple threesomes over the years, and generally I feel they are overrated and less like our favorite porn channel make it out to be. Nonetheless last fall in Vegas had the opportunity to do a threesome with some SA girls. Actually first planned a date with one of the girls and then as the night went on she asked if her friend could join in on the fun, as we were out getting drinks, I said why not and I could always decide to just take one back if I wanted to. The first girl was the one on the first link below (Arianyx) and she was visiting for a while in Vegas and we chatted up on SA and agreed on a price ($600). I sound like a broken record, but this is about $100-$200 what I like to go above but the market wasn't bending so I took the plunge. Plus she is a model looking and in my opinion rather good looking, so my little head made the decision for me.
https://members.seeking.com/member/974df6fb-8d22-42d6-b0d3-73d2125de9d1
So we met up at the Virgin hotel at my favorite lounge to get to know each other and get into the vibe. All was going well apart that at first she showed up a bit high (I mean if I had to fuck myself, I would be doing some hard drugs as well), but she was in a great mood so decided to continue the date. Another bad point was that she tried to renegotiate the allowance for the evening, which I was very stern and told her no way, we can both walk away now, no harm but I will not renegotiate. So she accepted and decided to stay. She would try it a couple of times more throughout the night as well as ask for the money upfront (of course I did not fall for that) and again was stern and said, she is welcome to leave at any time and no hard feelings but will not give a dime ahead until finished.
Fast forward to a couple of hours after we were having drinks and she asked about her friend that she met there if she could join us for drinks and I obliged:
https://members.seeking.com/member/089c6b27-d44e-462d-8a62-ead1880a85d5
Bettyboop apparently is some sort of musical artist and semi famous (LOL). Anyway she joined us and we continued having drinks at the bar and having a great time. After a short while we decided all three to head back to my place and start the fun. I did not discuss allowance with the friend, but ended up giving her slightly less than the first one. We were chilling on the couch and I had the blonde go down on me and start sucking me off really good, while I was DFK the model. We got all naked and I started throat fucking both of them one after the other. When it came time for them to both get doggy style on the couch the model insisted on covered FS, the blonde did not care if it was BBFS or covered. In any case after some pounding of both these chicks on the couch, decided to move to bedroom and continued to fuck the blonde doggy style. Now, this one has massive ass, which I am not honestly into but if she does rap songs, my guess she targets those that look for junk in the trunk. So after giving her a good pounding, decided to start with the model as well from behind for a bit and the front and started pulling her hair an slapping her ass which got her even more aroused and loud, to my enjoyment. Anyway, like I said threesomes are bit overrated except when they took turns sucking my balls while the other deep throated me. After some more switching and pounding, I decided to blow my load in the model's face, which she was not too happy about since a big part got in her eye (I told her next time she should keep her eyes closed, lesson learned). After we were done on round one and some more drinks, I had the blonde suck me off again and swallow my nectar.
Overall Experience 8/10.
Looks of the girl (Aria) in person 8. 5/10, (bettyboop) 6/10 with a tick ass.
DFK, BBBJ with CIM, CIF, covered FS, did not try anal as too busy having them suck me off together. Would I repeat, not with the blonde, but for sure with the model if she checked her attitude about trying to squeeze more money out of me (which she was not successful). Plus I blew my budget on having both of them, so definitely not worth the experience when I have had threesomes for 300 bucks total in Jakarta, Indonesia as well as in South America with just as beautiful girls.
I did notice that Arialynx is Miami based, so not sure how often she goes to Vegas, but the blonde frequently pops up on my SA favorite feed (I found her profile after our meeting funny enough) and I do think she is based in Vegas.
Sorry for the long post, hopefully why'all will enjoy. Stay safe and happy hunting fellow mongrels.
WhiteSun777
04-03-23, 22:51
Great report as always GermanOwl, I do concur about threesome they're a bit overrated. I say do it at least ONCE if you never done it but from my experience you always end up focusing or liking one girl more over the other. And the other girl now just became a 3rd wheel.
That's good you were able to stick with your initial price, I do hate it when girls try to get MORE after the agreed donation. Or they try to ask for TIPs.
Met up with this chick, Goldyngirl.
https://members.seeking.com/member/09e814c3-8f5a-418f-b864-22d0e6bcf471
Met at a pub to start the date and then went back to my place after a couple of drinks. She is a bit heavier than her pictures make show, either some good angles, photo shopping or pictures from a while back. In any case not bad. She is diabetic so she had waist insulin pack, that was kinda getting in the way of our romp.
Overall 7/10.
Looks in person 6. 5/10 (pics on site I would rate her a 7 to 8/10).
DFK, BBBJ with CIM, BBFS, CIP was on the table did not do it, and did not ask nor tried anal. WIR: No, have had better out there.
Damage: $500.
Catching up on my reports for Vegas, I will keep this one short:
https://members.seeking.com/member/c9e87c36-dca6-4a4b-8f03-fa021874202d
Dinner / drinks fun back at my place.
Overall 6. 5/10 - We vibed but did not connect like I have with other girls. Also on her profile she states she is 26 but in person looked definitely north of 30.
In person looks 7/10 - Like I mentioned older than 26 for sure.
BBBJ CIM, BBFS, DFK did not ask or try for anal. Total damage either $500 or $600 can't remember.
Hey guys I'm looking to sign up for this dating websites, been thinking about for a little never been on it, but seems very interesting, can anyone advice? I'm just not feeling very comfortable on posting my pictures on them or process payments with my credit card, anyone could advice on this.
I am comfortable with spending the money with the girls as long as we agree on something but the only thing is that I'm just feeling weird about using my personal info (pics, cc, name, etc) on this.
Thanks.
Any advice would be appreciated.
Hey guys I'm looking to sign up for this dating websites, been thinking about for a little never been on it, but seems very interesting, can anyone advice? I'm just not feeling very comfortable on posting my pictures on them or process payments with my credit card, anyone could advice on this.
I am comfortable with spending the money with the girls as long as we agree on something but the only thing is that I'm just feeling weird about using my personal info (pics, cc, name, etc) on this.
Thanks.
Any advice would be appreciated.On Seeking Arrangement you have the option of hiding your picture and sharing them only with girls who you want to talk to. So when you message a girl you can share your hidden pictures. You can hide your pics without a subscription, but you will not be able to message anyone. Once you have a subscription you can message and you have the ability to be fully invisible and only see the girls and send them messages as you please. So remaining discreet on the site is possible if you really need to, just make sure to hide all of your pictures including your profile picture because if you do not have a subscription your profile will show up. Another option is to deactivate your profile when you don't use the site, this way your profile will not show up until you log back in. This can get pretty tedious but another way of trying to remain discreet.
On the other websites such as secret benefits (I do not recommend, seems like a waste of time and money anyway) you can hide your profile with our without credits and can only be seen by those who you message, also with the option to hide your photos as well and only share with those you want.
As far as paying, I have never tried an alternate type of payment (prepaid card from Walmart for example) or other methods, so I cannot comment on how those would work.
Another report from a girl I visited with in Vegas approx. 6 months ago. Chatted with her and agreed to the allowance amount, was very responsive and we setup a date at the Sbar at the Mandaly Hotel (another great place to take a chick and great atmosphere and cocktails). She showed up and looked exactly like her pictures and dressed and made perfectly. She was older (around 33-35) than what she put on her profile (28) and she has kids, which also did not put in her profile. I understand the fibs, but it would be nice when we chatted that she communicate such. We vibes and we had a great time, although something seemed a bit off, so I asked her if everything was ok and she confided to me that she is on the spectrum. I guess that would explain her had and arm gestures.
Anyway, I looked past those items because my dick was hard, and we decided to head back to my place. DFK, BBBJ with deep throat and gagging, CIM, BBFS and Anal. All in all a great time and enjoyed her gagging herself on my cock.
Overall experience 8/10.
Looks in person (7. 5-8/10). As stated DFK, BBBJ, CIM with swallow, BBFS, Anal.
https://members.seeking.com/member/8e6fda44-8a09-4791-a891-a6d9eaa70dbf
WIR: Yes although she was already on the way upper age range, I try to stick to 18-24, damage $500 to $600.
WhiteSun777
04-06-23, 23:31
Hey guys I'm looking to sign up for this dating websites, been thinking about for a little never been on it, but seems very interesting, can anyone advice? I'm just not feeling very comfortable on posting my pictures on them or process payments with my credit card, anyone could advice on this.
I am comfortable with spending the money with the girls as long as we agree on something but the only thing is that I'm just feeling weird about using my personal info (pics, cc, name, etc) on this.
Thanks.
Any advice would be appreciated.GermanOwl already covered the photos situation, I see where you're coming from and you want to be completely anonymous with no paper trails. I say have one of your friends pay for it on their cc then you can pay them back. Use the one time sub on SA so there's no recurring fee and your buddy won't be mad at those monthly charges. No need to go diamond unless you just want to show off your dough. Look for discount code there's always one.
Now I've been on both and uses both. There seems to be more action (at least for me) on SB vs SA. On SB you have to cherry pick who you want to unlock and it's always a gamble if they even reply back to you. On SA you can go hog wild, I was getting a lot of interaction initially but that seems to have died down (for me anyway).
Good luck!
Hey guys I'm looking to sign up for this dating websites, been thinking about for a little never been on it, but seems very interesting, can anyone advice? I'm just not feeling very comfortable on posting my pictures on them or process payments with my credit card, anyone could advice on this.
I am comfortable with spending the money with the girls as long as we agree on something but the only thing is that I'm just feeling weird about using my personal info (pics, cc, name, etc) on this.
Thanks.
Any advice would be appreciated.Whenever anyone posts links for SA, the profile always says inactive for me. The girls I see available on SA are also extremely limited, and I have only had one girl actually respond to me there. However, on SB, I have had a lot of girls reach out, as well as respond to my messages. There are a lot more options and active users on SB, for me. The downside is that SB is very pay to play, which whitesun went into detail on the credits. As for personal pics, you can also use a pic with your face blurred or head chopped. As for CC, go buy a reloadable visa from the grocery store and use that so it isn't tied to your personal CC.
My main advice is to make sure you are very clear and detailed about what you want when talking to the girls. Good luck.
NapataJohn
04-07-23, 08:50
Hey guys I'm looking to sign up for this dating websites, been thinking about for a little never been on it, but seems very interesting, can anyone advice? I'm just not feeling very comfortable on posting my pictures on them or process payments with my credit card, anyone could advice on this.
I am comfortable with spending the money with the girls as long as we agree on something but the only thing is that I'm just feeling weird about using my personal info (pics, cc, name, etc) on this.
Thanks.
Any advice would be appreciated.See my posts on how to pay anon.
Met up with this hottie summer of 202 for drinks at the M hotel bar in South Vegas chill atmosphere and good place to chat and get the vibe going, cocktails not that good though. She was good company and we headed back to my place and started the fun. DFK, deep throat, BBFS, BBBJ with swallow. Did not want CIP since she was not on birth control and did not do anal.
https://members.seeking.com/member/890f4260-0e62-4994-b807-c0c4985c14b6
Overall experience 7/10.
Looks in person 7/10.
DFK, BBBJ with swallow, BBFS, no CIP, no Anal. WIR: no, although she is kinda cute in person but for the most part vanilla sex.
Met up with this hottie summer of 202 for drinks at the M hotel bar in South Vegas chill atmosphere and good place to chat and get the vibe going, cocktails not that good though. She was good company and we headed back to my place and started the fun. DFK, deep throat, BBFS, BBBJ with swallow. Did not want CIP since she was not on birth control and did not do anal.
https://members.seeking.com/member/890f4260-0e62-4994-b807-c0c4985c14b6
Overall experience 7/10.
Looks in person 7/10.
DFK, BBBJ with swallow, BBFS, no CIP, no Anal. WIR: no, although she is kinda cute in person but for the most part vanilla sex.How much was that?
How much was that?500 if I recall correctly.
CallMeTater
04-10-23, 03:10
500 if I recall correctly.I was seeing her all last year for 300/350. Pretty regularly like every two or three weeks. Maybe 15-18 times or so. LOL maybe that's why she started getting less and less responsive to texts. Figured out she could get more. Also she let me CIP every time when I showed her my vasectomy scar.
Anyway, I wasn't too upset to stop seeing her since I have a pretty good rotation going right now. But, if you offer her 400 she might bite. Good luck.
Thanks for all the advice, I've been reading other forums too and it is possible to use prepaid cards for it as well.
BonaFortuna
04-10-23, 12:55
What other forums are there for this kind of stuff?
Thanks!
Thanks for all the advice, I've been reading other forums too and it is possible to use prepaid cards for it as well.
Reddit, the FAQ tab in the SB / SA on their own site mention prepaid, here in this USA guide just in a different area, dome people had said it doesn't work for them for some other does work you need to register your prepaid card first.
What other forums are there for this kind of stuff?
Thanks!
GutterMind4
04-10-23, 15:26
I tried the prepaid card once. It has to be set up with the company (bank) first. It's the same as a debit card so that requires your actual identification and information. If you are going to do that, might as well use your actual debit card. Gift cards are very fickle. I have not found one that works every time and some brands never work. But the Vanilla Cards work more often than any I've used. I may be mistaken about all prepaid cards but that wasy experience with the one I tried. Sorry I don't recall the brand but I bought it at Walmart.
Reddit, the FAQ tab in the SB / SA on their own site mention prepaid, here in this USA guide just in a different area, dome people had said it doesn't work for them for some other does work you need to register your prepaid card first.
ColoHobbyist
04-17-23, 15:38
I tried the prepaid card once. It has to be set up with the company (bank) first. It's the same as a debit card so that requires your actual identification and information. If you are going to do that, might as well use your actual debit card. Gift cards are very fickle. I have not found one that works every time and some brands never work. But the Vanilla Cards work more often than any I've used. I may be mistaken about all prepaid cards but that wasy experience with the one I tried. Sorry I don't recall the brand but I bought it at Walmart.No. You have to register the gift card so there's a name and address attached, but the name and address don't have to be yours (the name doesn't even have to be real).
The name and address on the card and in your profile need to match, but that's all.
I use my made up sugar daddy name (that I tell the girls) and my long dead grandma's address.
Works like a charm.
GutterMind4
04-20-23, 19:02
I was only in Vegas 2 nights so limited time and budget but I made the best of it. First night was a UTR I met on Seeking last year. She was fed up with SA and deleted her account. So I hit her up a few weeks ago and we made plans. Not sure if it's because of our 2nd meeting or the fact it was more a natural hook up but damn we fucked like teenagers, nasty teenagers, LOL. (No, I'm not giving her up, LOL).
The next day I was mostly free after noon so I considered one of a dozen SBs I had been chatting, one of the Asian agencies, or a high mileage SC. I chose Chicas (see review in that section), but traffic limited any other activity before my next date. It was narrowed down to 3 girls. BTW, I always try to line up back ups because too many jerk you around. And it's always the most unlikely of the back ups. So after a couple of them were slow to respond (after days of arranging details) I reach out to this one. She never committed to a ppm but wanted to meet and see if we vibe. Now it's almost too late but at least she's willing to come to the hotel. We meet in the restaurant and damn she looks a lot better than her pics. Slim, nice tits, high heels and cocktail dress. After two drinks, the restaurant is closing so she says let's go to the room. More chit chat but never discuss money. I go to use yhe bathroom and she's naked under the covers when I come out. We fucked like wild animals and she was all into it. Definitely GFE and I think it could have been more.
Fast forward to getting dressed she asked what I was going to gift her and it got awkward for a minute. I asked her didn't she think we should have covered that earlier? I eventually told her I don't pay over 300 at home (kinda true). She said she usually gets 600 to 800. We settled on 400 but I definitely got the pro or semi-pro vibe from her. She never mentioned her "day job" just that she modelled and tended bar in the past. At that point, I didn't give a shit, she showed up and I got to smash, LOL. The only complaint was the annoying baby talk she would do when she got into getting pounded. All in all, I'd recommend and I'll see her again if / when I return.
https://members.seeking.com/member/e3907ed1-fe2c-4c0a-8488-3ce8c8132ddd
MyAlterEgo
04-24-23, 09:24
Oh yes this one is solid, 500 ppm.
https://www.secretbenefits.com/next/profile/fb3803e6e78cc797
Non-rush, 2 1/ hours YMMV.BBFS? Anal?
Hey all,
I've been chatting with Emily and she seems a bit different in her opinions, but her look has me hanging on. I thought I'd reach out to all of you and see if anyone has any experience with her:
https://members.seeking.com/member/4f1bfff1-343a-4074-968c-febc2a66ae73
Thank you.
Hey all,
I've been chatting with Emily and she seems a bit different in her opinions, but her look has me hanging on. I thought I'd reach out to all of you and see if anyone has any experience with her:
https://members.seeking.com/member/4f1bfff1-343a-4074-968c-febc2a66ae73
Thank you.I saw her in 2017 on HX. We had chatted for weeks, finally met and she had a terrible attitude. Kept complaining that she.
Is worth so much more, dead fish and kept asking if I was done. It was super awkward that I ended up faking it and dropping her back at home.
Unsure if she has changed, I still have her on IG and she's had a kid since then.
Beware of this one. Uses old pics, asks for allowance up front and will attempt to rob you.
https://www.secretbenefits.com/next/profile/ee605cc35f05ae69
I saw her in 2017 on HX. We had chatted for weeks, finally met and she had a terrible attitude. Kept complaining that she.
Is worth so much more, dead fish and kept asking if I was done. It was super awkward that I ended up faking it and dropping her back at home.
Unsure if she has changed, I still have her on IG and she's had a kid since then.This is the vibe I am getting with her as well. There was a lot of "man's world" complaints in our messaging. She hasn't been very communicative over text and I haven't really pursued because of the vibe I got. It's too bad. I love her pics.
Thanks for the feedback.
HollywoodGuy
04-26-23, 13:31
This is the vibe I am getting with her as well. There was a lot of "man's world" complaints in our messaging. She hasn't been very communicative over text and I haven't really pursued because of the vibe I got. It's too bad. I love her pics.
Thanks for the feedback.I have said this before and I will say it again. If a girl has "ANY" negativity in her profile or in messaging I run for the hills. Way way way too many sweet girls to be had. Do not waste your time.
Good day,
Question to all of you experienced in the sugar world. Is finding multiple profiles, both recently active, for the same girl a red flag? I have been chatting it up with one girl for a few days and found another profile that uses a private photo from the first profile as a public photo for the second. Reading the profile itself, the description is also very similar. So I am very certain they are the same. Profile A is about a month old, Profile B is only 2 days old. Both have been logged into within the last 24 hours.
Thoughts? Is this something I should drop?
HollywoodGuy
04-28-23, 12:25
Good day,
Question to all of you experienced in the sugar world. Is finding multiple profiles, both recently active, for the same girl a red flag? I have been chatting it up with one girl for a few days and found another profile that uses a private photo from the first profile as a public photo for the second. Reading the profile itself, the description is also very similar. So I am very certain they are the same. Profile A is about a month old, Profile B is only 2 days old. Both have been logged into within the last 24 hours.
Thoughts? Is this something I should drop?Not that big a deal. Just use the standard precautions you would use with any girl.
EagleLuver
04-28-23, 13:32
Good day,
Question to all of you experienced in the sugar world. Is finding multiple profiles, both recently active, for the same girl a red flag? I have been chatting it up with one girl for a few days and found another profile that uses a private photo from the first profile as a public photo for the second. Reading the profile itself, the description is also very similar. So I am very certain they are the same. Profile A is about a month old, Profile B is only 2 days old. Both have been logged into within the last 24 hours.
Thoughts? Is this something I should drop?A lot of these girls are not super organized and lose their login info. Since its free they just make a new one (plus a lot of guys search new profiles only so it ups their hit rate to do new profiles). Not a big deal just be careful. More like a yellow flag than red.
Came across this one. I don't think she's a scammer, but likely a bait and switch. I managed to track the pictures back to a unknown porn star Bijoulu or Bijou Bailey (https://twitter.com/bijoubailee) When I called her on it she blocked me. Just be careful out there.
https://members.seeking.com/member/b3e2da62-44bf-414c-bd86-c1bf596c8025
I don't think she was trying to scam so much because she didn't ask for $ ahead of time or to sell pics. Maybe it's really her but didn't like that I was able to track her down. Either way just wanted to share.
HelloMundo
05-02-23, 12:01
https://members.seeking.com/member/9cbfd4e9-7461-445f-acbe-7d2d4fbf6fcf
Will ask for money to meet and had another profile previously.
HelloMundo
05-02-23, 21:09
https://members.seeking.com/member/9cbfd4e9-7461-445f-acbe-7d2d4fbf6fcf
Will ask for money to meet and had another profile previously.Sorry, forgot to add a photo. She goes by Emma or Claire.
Avoid this one. Will agree to meet and greet. Very dry conversationally. Then after 10 minutes will ask for 400 tip for "her time".
https://members.seeking.com/member/b7d787d2-7d44-4b78-bea1-b971a95b9931
HollywoodGuy
05-06-23, 16:16
https://members.seeking.com/member/a3e43ffa-af66-4929-82d0-5e232d99f5f4
Keeps making new profiles. Actually I think she is 20 or 21. I met her one day for about a half hour about a year or so ago. But I could be wrong. She was kinda shy but nice. UNLV student and part time model. I think she is looking for the impossible. But she knew my rate prior to the M&G.
DJprofessorK
05-07-23, 09:12
Whenever I see the word 'sponsorship', I immediately write them off. That's a hilarious SB tactic that loosely translates to 'I'd prefer to be given a lot while providing nothing in return. '.
https://members.seeking.com/member/a3e43ffa-af66-4929-82d0-5e232d99f5f4
Keeps making new profiles. Actually I think she is 20 or 21. I met her one day for about a half hour about a year or so ago. But I could be wrong. She was kinda shy but nice. UNLV student and part time model. I think she is looking for the impossible. But she knew my rate prior to the M&G.
I have been chatting with this young lady the last few days. Not sure on pulling the trigger. She wanted $$ and no anal or bb.
She is hot but there are better options.
https://www.secretbenefits.com/next/profile/31461bf9dc09d949We had set a date and was texting back and forth on the day itself. When the time came for me to leave I asked for her address, it was crickets. I don't get it. She could have just said no.
HollywoodGuy
05-11-23, 21:49
Booty lovers dream girl?
https://members.seeking.com/member/6b149fac-be1e-445f-bf28-64a4bc6dd46e
Looks very legit... Except for being in south africa... lol
https://members.seeking.com/member/367b25cc-1f60-432d-85de-c36125555c00
She is real, probably a 5. 5 on a scale of 1 to 10, very open minded, but unfortunately not my type. Pics are good angles and with make up. She is very sweet and not super cheap, but very affordable with negotiation. No need to dm me.
https://members.seeking.com/member/367b25cc-1f60-432d-85de-c36125555c00
She is real, probably a 5. 5 on a scale of 1 to 10, very open minded, but unfortunately not my type. Pics are good angles and with make up. She is very sweet and not super cheap, but very affordable with negotiation. No need to dm me.If this is who I think it is, she's been "22" for about 8 years now LOL. Comes back with a new profile every few years.
Jumped in the sugar pool for an upcoming extended work trip here. Had a few replies and back and forths. Moved to text with one girl who was an Iowa 10 and a Vegas 7. Pretty. Great personality. Made up she was hot without makeup she was the kinda nerdy cute girl in the office. We finally get to specifics in text and she asks for $3 k per date. I laughed so hard.
She seemed like an amazing person but that price would get me an overnight with the hottest companion in Vegas or 4-5 quick meets with solid talent.
She missed out. I probably would have sprung for more than usual because she had such a sweet, intelligent sexiness in addition to being pretty. Oh well.
HollywoodGuy
06-02-23, 15:33
Jumped in the sugar pool for an upcoming extended work trip here. Had a few replies and back and forths. Moved to text with one girl who was an Iowa 10 and a Vegas 7. Pretty. Great personality. Made up she was hot without makeup she was the kinda nerdy cute girl in the office. We finally get to specifics in text and she asks for $3 k per date. I laughed so hard.
She seemed like an amazing person but that price would get me an overnight with the hottest companion in Vegas or 4-5 quick meets with solid talent.
She missed out. I probably would have sprung for more than usual because she had such a sweet, intelligent sexiness in addition to being pretty. Oh well.No shortages in vegas. Cast a wide net.
No shortages in vegas. Cast a wide net.Thanks for the encouragement. Seems the going rate for lookers is 800-1000 min and that's for just a short date. I had one in Vegas 7 years ago who was a pole dance teacher and would spend all evening with me having fun for less. Times have changed I guess.
HollywoodGuy
06-03-23, 18:43
Thanks for the encouragement. Seems the going rate for lookers is 800-1000 min and that's for just a short date. I had one in Vegas 7 years ago who was a pole dance teacher and would spend all evening with me having fun for less. Times have changed I guess.I'm a low baller. But I hear ya. I never go after the high priced spread, but with a lot of inquiries I am sure first class pussy can be had for five bills give or take. You just have to chat up a multitude of girls. You are someone's type. And when you happen to hit upon that girl she will be more forgiving on the allowance.
Thanks for the encouragement. Seems the going rate for lookers is 800-1000 min and that's for just a short date. I had one in Vegas 7 years ago who was a pole dance teacher and would spend all evening with me having fun for less. Times have changed I guess.Most of the encounters I've had were for 300 or less. Some of those ended up being overnights too. I never put a time frame on the time spent and the girls end up deciding to stay because they want to cuddle after. Sometimes you just have to ask, and be willing to walk away if it doesn't work for you.
HolyStone1975
06-04-23, 12:15
I'm a low baller. But I hear ya. I never go after the high priced spread, but with a lot of inquiries I am sure first class pussy can be had for five bills give or take. You just have to chat up a multitude of girls. You are someone's type. And when you happen to hit upon that girl she will be more forgiving on the allowance.The other suggestion I have is to not just assume from the pics that the girl is high priced. I have hit on 3-4 girls over the years that could probably charge 1 k in Vegas and get it regularly because of looks, or performance, that I have paid 300 or less and got multiple hours and a couple overnights. It never hurts to at least start a convo, the worst they can say is no and if you are casting that wide net, you will find some.
HollywoodGuy
06-04-23, 13:07
The other suggestion I have is to not just assume from the pics that the girl is high priced. I have hit on 3-4 girls over the years that could probably charge 1 k in Vegas and get it regularly because of looks, or performance, that I have paid 300 or less and got multiple hours and a couple overnights. It never hurts to at least start a convo, the worst they can say is no and if you are casting that wide net, you will find some.Totally agree with that. Has happened to me many times. I could care less how often I get rejected.
This meeting was quite a blur for me, spent the day in Vegas heat hydrating with beers so I was on a good level before even meeting her. She's not super responsive unless you can assure her your in Vegas, messaged her in the morning and set up a meet at my bar of the hotel I was staying at. Setting that up was easy enough and she wanted $600 but I got her down to $500.
Good:
Only spent 30 ish minutes in the bar before heading up and got her down a further $50 to $450. She basically let me do whatever I wanted, all the acronyms were available other than cip and anal. Took some convincing but she let cum on her pussy and then in the heat of the moment I re-entered pushing some of it inside. She kinda got mad but not pissed, I apologized and tipped her an extra $50 for plan B so I ended up back at $500.
Bad:
Not many bad things to says. Firstly she was naturally wet but that went dry after a little bit, she's also had kids because she was a little loose but nothing crazy, it was still decently grippy and enjoyable.
All in all I'd say her looks were about 7. 5/10 and the experience itself was 8/10. Whole experience lasted probably a little over 3 hrs and I busted twice but you have to tell her your going to bust again. I'd repeat for sure but after this board gets ahold of her I'm not sure haha.
https://members.seeking.com/member/890f4260-0e62-4994-b807-c0c4985c14b6
https://members.seeking.com/member/978d4214-ddba-4489-b44f-4c8260f293bb
Seems to be a sure thing if you want an 18 year old. I opted not too as she wants to go straight to the bedroom without a public meet first (she will facetime you). She directly asks for 400 ppm, and says must use condoms. She's average looking (and looks better in her pics then she did on facetime), but ppm is reasonable if you want to cross an 18 year old off your bucket list.
Lucky to have been back and forth for week-long stints the past few months. The hotwife / swinger scene at Mandalay Bay is legit. I was at the Four Seasons and while discrete the amount of fairly obvious hookups meeting up at Press and Veranda was impressive. TStill, I enjoy younger kinky sluts as well and recommend:
Simplyb.
Imsmall.
ESFP Blondie.
I never chatted with but a fellow fish bowl buddy setup some goup play and I enjoyed this one:
ItsJessieAgain.
Couldn't sync schedules but think they are real:
Mbabe95.
Emily.
RiaInVegas popped up late in my project in LV but her along with TraveledEnthusiast, Mbabe95, and Emily would have all gotten more attention from me if better timing and less nights occupied by horny milfs. I've found the condom thing a non-issue once I meet but she was pretty upfront about that.
RiaInVegas popped up late in my project in LV but her along with TraveledEnthusiast, Mbabe95, and Emily would have all gotten more attention from me if better timing and less nights occupied by horny milfs. I've found the condom thing a non-issue once I meet but she was pretty upfront about that.You didn't mind using a condom with her, or once she got there she was cool not using one?
Guys, I'm a quality poster from Ohio. Any numbers of sugar girls you'd be willing to share? I'm in town a few days and love young girls. 18-25. I'd be much obliged.
Man, I'd ring that up. She's gorgeous.
Sadly it looks like she's out of the game.
Any leads on her whereabouts? Damn!
Another report from a girl I visited with in Vegas approx. 6 months ago. Chatted with her and agreed to the allowance amount, was very responsive and we setup a date at the Sbar at the Mandaly Hotel (another great place to take a chick and great atmosphere and cocktails). She showed up and looked exactly like her pictures and dressed and made perfectly. She was older (around 33-35) than what she put on her profile (28) and she has kids, which also did not put in her profile. I understand the fibs, but it would be nice when we chatted that she communicate such. We vibes and we had a great time, although something seemed a bit off, so I asked her if everything was ok and she confided to me that she is on the spectrum. I guess that would explain her had and arm gestures.
Anyway, I looked past those items because my dick was hard, and we decided to head back to my place. DFK, BBBJ with deep throat and gagging, CIM, BBFS and Anal. All in all a great time and enjoyed her gagging herself on my cock.
Overall experience 8/10.
Looks in person (7. 5-8/10). As stated DFK, BBBJ, CIM with swallow, BBFS, Anal.
https://members.seeking.com/member/8e6fda44-8a09-4791-a891-a6d9eaa70dbf
WIR: Yes although she was already on the way upper age range, I try to stick to 18-24, damage $500 to $600.
Does anyone have any intel on this one? Conversation has gone well thus far.
https://members.seeking.com/member/feb1c15f-8de6-4407-acf7-1ed1e6825cf8
PM is fine.
Visiting town next week and tentatively scheduled with her. Same ppm quote, no mention on condoms (yet). Will report back if we meet up.
https://members.seeking.com/member/978d4214-ddba-4489-b44f-4c8260f293bb
Seems to be a sure thing if you want an 18 year old. I opted not too as she wants to go straight to the bedroom without a public meet first (she will facetime you). She directly asks for 400 ppm, and says must use condoms. She's average looking (and looks better in her pics then she did on facetime), but ppm is reasonable if you want to cross an 18 year old off your bucket list.
HollywoodGuy
07-07-23, 02:47
Visiting town next week and tentatively scheduled with her. Same ppm quote, no mention on condoms (yet). Will report back if we meet up.I love everyone on here, but 4 bills for her? There are model quality girls to be had for that price. And usually the younger they are the better the rate. Just my 2 cents.
HollywoodGuy
07-07-23, 06:11
I knew she looked TGTBT. Lots a pros on seeking.
https://members.seeking.com/member/ad0629c3-5ec9-46c8-bcbe-c3767f74f0aa
https://adultsearch.com/us/nevada/las-vegas/female-escorts/3128817
https://escortalligator.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/nevada/lasvegas/137712730
https://ondate.io/united-states/nevada/las-vegas/female-escorts/259075-nyeli
Hello comrades,
Any intel for the ladies listed below. Any insight would be greatly appreciated and I will report back on any meets that occur.
EnchantingSeductress.
She reached out first and conversation has gone pretty good.
Seems eager to meet.
https://members.seeking.com/member/cfee02f3-c281-4ab3-a177-c8b86b8bfbce
Sweetbabe.
Seems sweet, ready to meet now, she sent initial conversation.
https://members.seeking.com/member/15b0f931-f7dd-4b14-95c0-87a556bcdb75
DreamyMiss.
Requested to view photos. Nothing else said.
https://members.seeking.com/member/ae9e3415-58ab-49df-bc96-0089323c6d7c
Chanel.
She reached out first, swapped photos, seems VERY open minded and wanting to try new things.
https://members.seeking.com/member/7c09b270-7d3d-44d3-b9fa-67b9d755e416
RealSkye.
She reached out first, swapped photos, wanting to meet.
https://members.seeking.com/member/303acf88-50b7-4312-9cc8-251bf26545c5
Lovelyskyy.
She reached out first, just getting started.
https://members.seeking.com/member/6b37b537-20e3-4ca1-bff1-db09a7fda28d
Xosugarnspice.
She reached out, very polite and pleasant, ready to meet.
https://members.seeking.com/member/daeee0d0-8738-4cdf-bf56-d326c78c0359
Lucy.
She sent initial message, some intro chit chat, provided her number early.
https://members.seeking.com/member/0a0ce818-f82e-4b95-aa24-6d78f1917902
Natalie.
She reached out, swapped photos, immediately gave phone number afterwards.
https://members.seeking.com/member/5dd809d6-a494-4967-96f7-77ec48553ef4
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