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I'm a little amazed and somewhat shocked at what I've been reading over a few posts both in this thread and others. I'm not going to call anyone out directly but you've got to be kidding me.
The term friend must be used really loosely by some of you. I've seen the terms hobbyist and friend used by so many of you yet if you were to talk to one of these girls it's business and client and that's where so many get it twisted. Yes, we are a payday and her motivation is to get your money in her pocket. We pay for an experience in hopes of having a good memorable time. Some times that works out some times it doesn't. But please stop getting it twisted you're paying for a service and in some cases she may enjoy it and in others she may just act like she does. Either way it doesn't matter if you enjoyed your time.
Now, you're going to see so many girls funnel through this "business" like a revolving door. Each will have her own reasons for doing the work but I guarantee none of them grew up aspiring to be a prostitute just like no one aspires to work at the DMV and look at how pissed off those assholes are. I'm not going to pigeon hole all these girls into all of them having a drug problem but chances are there's something sketchy going on. For those of you taking the call or text asking for help and getting burned, or giving your key to one of these girls and being stole from, or even confusing your relationship status for something more than a payday then you need to get a grip.
If you're participating in a fantasy outside your aloted hour then you deserve what's coming your way. I really don't understand this logic in placing yourself in front of a moving train.
ThermoNuclear
09-03-14, 11:15
Touch'e. Well said!Hurray! A fellow monger who gets my joke of self-mocking sarcasm.
It all comes down to cost-benefit. Every provider has their issues, some more than others. Some are deal killers.
My go-to's have evaporated and a drought is on. Perhaps when I make Seņor, the skies will open and ATFs will rain down upon me, but until then I'm spending way too much time on this *wonderful* board pounding sand.
(And thanks, Admin, for moving this thread to the proper topic. The parent I replied to was in the wrong thread, and I compounded the error.).
MilfMan865
09-09-14, 19:23
I keep seeing reports of mongers getting cashed and dashed, providers who were upper echelon reduced to bottom of the barrel, and other messed up stuff that constitutes poor service. It prompted me to think about what would be considered deal breakers. I understand that there are deal breakers from the provider's perspective as well, but this is from a monger's perspective. I'll get the list started, so add what you see fit.
1) No MSOG offered, so one and done. If a hobbyist procures X amount of a provider's time, the hobbyist should be able to use the time for as many visits to the honey pot as time allows.
2) Real-life provider is so far from the pics, it's almost hard to tell if it is really the same person.
3) Advertising as GFE, but doesn't allow kissing, CBJ only, etc.
4) Not respecting time constraints. Endless texting back and forth and often hearing only crickets when the appointment time comes.
5) Questionable hygiene. Whether it be certain odors originating from the nether regions, excessive hair, or otherwise.
6) Obvious substance abuse issues.
7) A filthy incall location.
Others.
I keep seeing reports of mongers getting cashed and dashed, providers who were upper echelon reduced to bottom of the barrel, and other messed up stuff that constitutes poor service. It prompted me to think about what would be considered deal breakers. I understand that there are deal breakers from the provider's perspective as well, but this is from a monger's perspective. I'll get the list started, so add what you see fit.
1) No MSOG offered, so one and done. If a hobbyist procures X amount of a provider's time, the hobbyist should be able to use the time for as many visits to the honey pot as time allows.
2) Real-life provider is so far from the pics, it's almost hard to tell if it is really the same person.
3) Advertising as GFE, but doesn't allow kissing, CBJ only, etc.
4) Not respecting time constraints. Endless texting back and forth and often hearing only crickets when the appointment time comes.
5) Questionable hygiene. Whether it be certain odors originating from the nether regions, excessive hair, or otherwise.
6) Obvious substance abuse issues.
7) A filthy incall location.
Others.8) BF or keepers in plain sight hanging outside the room. How can one function thinking they will be robbed at any minute.
Hammerman010
10-13-14, 20:39
I dreamed that I hoped she would come to Knoxville soon. She made a trip just for me after an email. She brought her friend with her. They were both totally hot and extremely accommodating. A great time was had by all. They were both so sweet and laid back. I will totally see them again, together or single. Again, just a dream. Wow!Are you talking about "Vickys Your Secret" from the Nashville area? Was her friend Tara? I've seen Vicky several times and she is top shelf, she has class, I highly recommend her when she comes to town. She is on NR and Datecheck. I think she comes to Knoxville often. I haven't seen Tara.
Got a chance to dream of Tori for the first time. Very pretty BBW. Easy to contact and setup. On time and nice in call. Solid provider.The pictures she posts are not of what I would call BBW. I haven't seen her, is she or not?
Simple 'terms' used in descriptions may unintentionally mislead, they mean different things to different people. I think of her as 'curvy' - as in the supple shapeliness of the woman in my dreams... and she is certainly that woman!
On her website she describes herself as 5'6" and 150: http://www.victoriaelaine.net/m/home#
Hey -- sexy is sexy, no matter what 'the shape'... And IMO, Tori is VERY sexy.
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Got a chance to dream of Tori for the first time. Very pretty BBW. Easy to contact and setup. On time and nice in call. Solid provider.No need to come down on a guy for sharing his experience and opinion he said he enjoyed his time and that's all that matters. Toria is no spinner but she has plenty of curves. She's a very sexy woman with excellent service. She's Drug Free with no stretch marks. If you haven't seen her and thinking about seeing someone else change your mind and go see Toria.
I am surprised at the reaction to my report. I was not wanting to diss Tori and didn't know she was not connsidered BBW by some of you guys. BBW is not an exact term and means different things to different people. But I will stand by my description and apologize to Tori if she took offense. To people who haven't seen her I would say go ahead. She is a nice lady with good skills and no sign of the D.
Simple 'terms' used in descriptions may unintentionally mislead, they mean different things to different people. I think of her as 'curvy' - as in the supple shapeliness of the woman in my dreams... and she is certainly that woman!
On her website she describes herself as 5'6" and 150: http://www.victoriaelaine.net/m/home#
Hey -- sexy is sexy, no matter what 'the shape'... And IMO, Tori is VERY sexy.
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(draw your own conclusions)Believe it or not some guys think BBW stands for big breasted woman while I know it to mean big beautiful woman. The truth is a BBW is usually also a big breasted woman also but a big breasted woman isn't necessarily a BBW. I like a woman to have curves but I don't like the Kim Kardashian or bronzehorse146 (youtube star) ass.
Member #4634
10-15-14, 19:45
I am surprised at the reaction to my report. I was not wanting to diss Tori and didn't know she was not connsidered BBW by some of you guys. BBW is not an exact term and means different things to different people. But I will stand by my description and apologize to Tori if she took offense. To people who haven't seen her I would say go ahead. She is a nice lady with good skills and no sign of the D.LOL this made me giggle. I really wish they'd change "spinner" to "fit". Because "drug addict" and "super model" are DEFINITELY two different things.
But no, I'm not offended. I love all my assets and a beer and burger on gameday never hurt nobody. Glad you had fun. And good luck on your search for a drug-free size 3. LOL.
Seems like I came off as harsh and criticizing and that was NOT my intention, sorry to the Pizza Man and any other I might have offended. I meant that post as more of a incredulous humor kinda thing as you pointed out BBW means different things to different people. I've saw a few providers over the years and they varied from small spinner types to more curvy one's such as Kaylee if some members may remember and Stays Horny who is more current. I think of BBW being more of a robust, thicker girl, sexy but a size 16 18 kinda girl. To me a spinner is petite and athletic, smaller busted and smaller hips type provider. Providers like Tori, Charlie, Dara are more in the middle, definitely got great curves but still medium framed and classical sized; ie. 36-24-36 type. Now that being said it's been a couple months since I have enjoyed Tori's company so things may have changed, but I see no evidence of that from the times we've got together and drank a few. Heck even Charlie has got a butt that a few might consider on the bigger side but to me is DAMN near perfect. Looks great learning against the restroom wall of Applebee's, but that's a story for another day!
RegularOldJoe
10-16-14, 12:26
2 girls I won't see. Annabelle and Astrid. Astrid ripped me off by having me drive all way to Alcoa late and had me sitting at a store never hearing back till late afternoon next day with BS excuse of falling asleep. I tried a couple days this week only to get runaround.
Annabelle I texted back and forth. Seen her once before she posted and she seems ok but something is off about her.
I looked at both of their pics and they just don't seem healthy looking. Ass or no ass doesn't matter if the rest of your appearance doesn't show evidence of a clean bill of health.Gives Annabelle more free time to see me! So what if she likes a little 420.
Joe.
Member #4430
10-16-14, 13:10
Gives Annabelle more free time to see me! So what if she likes a little 420.
Joe.Knock yourself out man I don't give a rats you know what who you see and how often.
KarmaKitty
10-16-14, 14:00
I'll have to agree with Mountain Eagle. I know I'm going against the grain, but something is off with her (Annabelle). If I'm unsure if I should see someone, I may just search her in this forum. If it pulls 45+ posts about recent visits of a provider. I may decide to pass. There is something very unattractive about a lady with that much traffic. If your just a number how much special attention are you really getting? I understand, even the UTR's I see have traffic. But the key, is I don't know about it and there is an appearance of low volume. To each his own. I'm glad that she has so much business. Good for her. But, I'll stay with the ones that prefer to go unnoticed.
2 girls I won't see. Annabelle and Astrid. Astrid ripped me off by having me drive all way to Alcoa late and had me sitting at a store never hearing back till late afternoon next day with BS excuse of falling asleep. I tried a couple days this week only to get runaround.
Annabelle I texted back and forth. Seen her once before she posted and she seems ok but something is off about her.
I looked at both of their pics and they just don't seem healthy looking. Ass or no ass doesn't matter if the rest of your appearance doesn't show evidence of a clean bill of health.
Cricket342
10-16-14, 14:58
I'll have to agree with Mountain Eagle. I know I'm going against the grain, but something is off with her (Annabelle). If I'm unsure if I should see someone, I may just search her in this forum. If it pulls 45+ posts about recent visits of a provider. I may decide to pass. There is something very unattractive about a lady with that much traffic. If your just a number how much special attention are you really getting? I understand, even the UTR's I see have traffic. But the key, is I don't know about it and there is an appearance of low volume. To each his own. I'm glad that she has so much business. Good for her. But, I'll stay with the ones that prefer to go unnoticed.Of course it is your choice. It always is. It's ok for you to see somebody 45 times though. Sorry this should be in another thread.
Of course it is your choice. It always is. It's ok for you to see somebody 45 times though. Sorry this should be in another thread.When you look at the pics of the two ladies being discussed, it doesn't take a genius to see that they have issues. Women that eat right, sleep right, and take care of themselves have some meat to them. Granted some more, some less than others but, they don't look like living skeletons with their eyes sunk in. As for nodding off during the dream, I'm no prince charming by any means but, I want to feel like I am during our dream. If, she's not enjoying it as much as I am (or at least faking it really good) then it just kinda leaves me feeling a little flat. I want that interaction and enthusiasm in a provider.
Just IMO.
LCman.
Elixir1018
10-16-14, 17:03
I feel like I have to clarify on the traffic issue. I personally don't know how many client she actually sees or how many client any provider sees, but from what I can gather, she is new to the area and simply wanted to have more review to get her name out there as a solid and reputable selection in Knoxville. Take that as you will and think really hard if you truly believe when your UTR tells you that you are the only few they will ever accommodate.
E.
KnoxYankee
10-19-14, 12:30
I'll have to agree with Mountain Eagle. I know I'm going against the grain, but something is off with her (Annabelle). If I'm unsure if I should see someone, I may just search her in this forum. If it pulls 45+ posts about recent visits of a provider. I may decide to pass. There is something very unattractive about a lady with that much traffic. If your just a number how much special attention are you really getting? I understand, even the UTR's I see have traffic. But the key, is I don't know about it and there is an appearance of low volume. To each his own. I'm glad that she has so much business. Good for her. But, I'll stay with the ones that prefer to go unnoticed.Based on your criteria of not seeing providers who have allot of reviews you would have disqualified some of the best in this hobby. Ladies who are no longer in the hobby going back to the E.COM days include Cake and Christine would have not fit your "pure as the white driven snow, fair ladies of the realm of East TENN criteria". Way to stoop to broad generalizations as a way to put down the providers who are more well known based on the fact they have allot of reviews. As well as making your self look so smug to us poor schmucks who are unable to meet your "fair ladies of virtue".
When I first started this hobby I went on E.COM and had my first dream with red headed spinner Naomi she was my introduction to the hobby and became my ATF for awhile. OF course she would not have met with your approval and high standers, but I never made the mistake of deluding my self she was saving her self for me. I chose to spend my energy enjoying the fantasy aspect of the dream. Yet I never felt like she neglected me when I was her client as she and other well known, above mentioned included, always gave me the attention I wanted.
I am glad your staying away from seeing certain ladies, no need to ruin it for everyone else, as you come across as a self-satisfied, puffed up, wind bag.
What's your"This shit isn't working for me" limits? Having been personal friends with more than one over the years I usually am pretty easy going, tend to work things out behind the scenes, try to be understanding of their views on things because you see first hand some of the crap some guys put them through. Some people post bad reviews at the drop of a hat and take them to task for the smallest hiccups. I've always tried to help and be respectful to anyone who has seen me and went WAY beyond the call with some when they were struggling and needed help, not just for brownie points but because it was the right thing to do. But some times I feel like I'm being treated like a doormat just because I rarely post anything negative about some of my experiences. So before I go waaaaayyy off on a tangent, give me some of YOUR break the deal moments. What's tolerable and what just can't be recovered from? What's inconvenient and what is just plain stupid? When is it miscommunication and when is it manipulating?
KarmaKitty
10-20-14, 09:40
As upset as your are, I have no issue with the the number of reviews a provider has. It is the volume in which a provider see's her clientele. There is a difference between a high volume provider and being a good or great provider who has a lot of reviews.
I've seen many who have a lot of reviews and give a great experience: Jessica Rockefeller, JH, Barbie, Ashley, Bunny, Cody Lane. Some with E.com and some here.
But nevertheless Knox Yankee, let's just call it a case of YMMV. You liked Annabelle. I thought something was off when I saw her. No big deal. If I post about my experience and it isn't indicative of your past experience, it's not an attack on you. I just had a different experience.
Based on your criteria of not seeing providers who have allot of reviews you would have disqualified some of the best in this hobby. Ladies who are no longer in the hobby going back to the E.COM days include Cake and Christine would have not fit your "pure as the white driven snow, fair ladies of the realm of East TENN criteria". Way to stoop to broad generalizations as a way to put down the providers who are more well known based on the fact they have allot of reviews. As well as making your self look so smug to us poor schmucks who are unable to meet your "fair ladies of virtue".
When I first started this hobby I went on E.COM and had my first dream with red headed spinner Naomi she was my introduction to the hobby and became my ATF for awhile. OF course she would not have met with your approval and high standers, but I never made the mistake of deluding my self she was saving her self for me. I chose to spend my energy enjoying the fantasy aspect of the dream. Yet I never felt like she neglected me when I was her client as she and other well known, above mentioned included, always gave me the attention I wanted.
I am glad your staying away from seeing certain ladies, no need to ruin it for everyone else, as you come across as a self-satisfied, puffed up, wind bag.
Ok, so I am new and I guess I got caught up in just trying to fit in by posting my observations regarding Annabell.
First, I would like to extend my apologies to her. Cricket, you are correct. I have not seen her nor, do I have any desire to do so. Not because of how much traffic she might have. Hell, all these ladies have seen more action than I would in 3 lifetimes. Yes, I was guilty of jumping to the conclusion that drugs were a major issue for the 2 in question after reading of others experiences. Nothing wrong with smoking a little pot. Hell, almost everyone does these days. Annabell's explanation of coming out of the bathroom is quite plausible. We expect these ladies to act a certain way. We expect them to honor our requests yet, if there's something a little off we either ignore it or post about it. Either way it seems as if they are damned if they do, damned if they don't. Knoxville is an odd bunch but, I will refrain from posting anything other from first hand experiences from now on. I will keep my opinions to myself and continue to dream as much as I can. Once again, my apologies to Annabell.
LCman.
What's your"This shit isn't working for me" limits? Having been personal friends with more than one over the years I usually am pretty easy going, tend to work things out behind the scenes, try to be understanding of their views on things because you see first hand some of the crap some guys put them through. Some people post bad reviews at the drop of a hat and take them to task for the smallest hiccups. I've always tried to help and be respectful to anyone who has seen me and went WAY beyond the call with some when they were struggling and needed help, not just for brownie points but because it was the right thing to do. But some times I feel like I'm being treated like a doormat just because I rarely post anything negative about some of my experiences. So before I go waaaaayyy off on a tangent, give me some of YOUR break the deal moments. What's tolerable and what just can't be recovered from? What's inconvenient and what is just plain stupid? When is it miscommunication and when is it manipulating?I'm a lot like you describe yourself, but I see very few ladies, because to be honest, I've found very few in this area that I care to see. But as far as breaking point, its got to be bad before I post a public bad review, but if they are late by more than a little, and more than one time, that's a deal breaker for me. I don't have the time or patience to waste and I won't hang around a hotel parking lot which makes things pretty obvious. I don't mind fake photos, if they are representative, but when the photos look great and the girl looks nothing like the photos, I'm done right then. Of course cash and dash or even the look of that type of a set up is a death knell and her "friend" hanging around is a deal breaker as well. If it can't be clean, discrete and simple, I'm just not interested today. I'm also not into the BBW look (no offense to those who are is intended) and around here, what they tend to describe as "curvy" just plain look fat to me. I like them athletic and healthy looking, not grits and gravy for breakfast types. That's my 2 cents worth.
RJHunter says: "I like them athletic and healthy looking, not grits and gravy for breakfast types. That's my 2 cents worth. ".
OK I'm 'about to go off. Hey, these girls flaking out on us and stuff is one thing -- but just what in the hell is wrong with grits and gravy? .
Seriously, my 2 cents worth about 'the bad that goes too far' usually involves hygiene, some dude / thug hanging around, or being so geeky for the pill after that they can't perform. On second thought, sometimes I only 'perform' with by taking a pill before. A double standard, no?
But the ONE thing I will not tolerate is aggressiveness. I've had some girls (yes, escorts too) actually try to 'bully' me into more cash, parking in their spot, etc. After a couple of close calls early on in the hobby, that kind of attitude now puts an end to things immediately.
As for written reviews, after this long in the hobby (10+ years), I've learned what's sour to me may be sweet to the next guy SO it takes quite a bit of 'bad' for me to write a 'bad' review. That may not be they way this is really supposed to work -- but if someone asks about a provider on the forum then I would gladly volunteer my, let's say 'reservations' by PM.
RJHunter says: "I like them athletic and healthy looking, not grits and gravy for breakfast types. That's my 2 cents worth. ".
OK I'm 'about to go off. Hey, these girls flaking out on us and stuff is one thing -- but just what in the hell is wrong with grits and gravy? .
Seriously, my 2 cents worth about 'the bad that goes too far' usually involves hygiene, some dude / thug hanging around, or being so geeky for the pill after that they can't perform. On second thought, sometimes I only 'perform' with by taking a pill before. A double standard, no?
But the ONE thing I will not tolerate is aggressiveness. I've had some girls (yes, escorts too) actually try to 'bully' me into more cash, parking in their spot, etc. After a couple of close calls early on in the hobby, that kind of attitude now puts an end to things immediately.
As for written reviews, after this long in the hobby (10+ years), I've learned what's sour to me may be sweet to the next guy SO it takes quite a bit of 'bad' for me to write a 'bad' review. That may not be they way this is really supposed to work -- but if someone asks about a provider on the forum then I would gladly volunteer my, let's say 'reservations' by PM.I agree with your 2 cents worth as well. For the Grits and Gravy, nothing wrong with them occasionally. But when eaten on a daily basis, most of these girls end "curvy. ".
KenVetteman
10-21-14, 17:06
I agree with your 2 cents worth as well. For the Grits and Gravy, nothing wrong with them occasionally. But when eaten on a daily basis, most of these girls end "curvy. ".My preference is mature and curvy so each to his own.
Sometimes means they have "Tits and Wavy! " Nice ass that is!!LOL! No I think everyone's idea of what is a " Fine ass Woman " and ether TO small or Large differs greatly. Echo Echo and I both share a great fondness for at least one of the same local lady's who some have called BBW but in his and my opinion is curved just about right. Charlie is another lady who has some thick ol'hip's but they sure are great to drive a rod in! Dara has some curves but rarely have I heard ANYONE complain or comment on them. Hell I usually am overly catiuos with a very small framed girl as I'm afraid I'll get a little to cared away in the middle of things and twist one to much and hurt one. Although that little Anna Marie can take a VERY Vigorous fuck. HUm.
What's your"This shit isn't working for me" limits? Having been personal friends with more than one over the years I usually am pretty easy going, tend to work things out behind the scenes, try to be understanding of their views on things because you see first hand some of the crap some guys put them through. Some people post bad reviews at the drop of a hat and take them to task for the smallest hiccups. I've always tried to help and be respectful to anyone who has seen me and went WAY beyond the call with some when they were struggling and needed help, not just for brownie points but because it was the right thing to do. But some times I feel like I'm being treated like a doormat just because I rarely post anything negative about some of my experiences. So before I go waaaaayyy off on a tangent, give me some of YOUR break the deal moments. What's tolerable and what just can't be recovered from? What's inconvenient and what is just plain stupid? When is it miscommunication and when is it manipulating?Me I will not hesitate to share a bad experience or post a bad review. Especially with new providers. They all have ego's so I will post immediately to keep the newer ones in check. I see it as stopping bad habbits before they start. With well known providers usually timing is their issue if there is one so it would have to happen more than once for me to report it. Doing hard drugs in front of me is a deal breaker! If you can't wait or have enough respect to keep it hid I can't deal with you. Bad hygene is number 1, Going to the bathroom and staying in the bathroom to do hard drugs, Fake pics if she's fugly I will leave, Any guy lurking around I will either not do the session or make it quick but I prefer not to do it. The less they know about me the better because boyfriends / husbands can be jealous and insecure. hadlers / pimps are just there for muscle which doesn't bother me but I don't want to see them either. When it comes manipulation that's an everyday thing for providers no matter how nice its just part of the job. We do it too for extra time extra pops etc. Some guys get manipulated and don't even realize it. Its happened to me b4 I used it as a learning experience. Most ladies change after a few visits some for the better some for the worse. I just don't get too comfortable with them, keep it professional, and remember its just business no matter how nice or cool one may be.
... For the Grits and Gravy, nothing wrong with them occasionally. But when eaten on a daily basis, most of these girls end "curvy. ".Raised on both grits & gravy + beans & cornbread, so I know all too well what you say is true! (and by the way, my original comment on G&G was a joke, the smiley face just didn't show up). Great discussion on 'the bad' though.
Raised on both grits & gravy + beans & cornbread, so I know all too well what you say is true! (and by the way, my original comment on G&G was a joke, the smiley face just didn't show up). Great discussion on 'the bad' though.I have nothing at all against those a bit overly "curvy" ladies myself. As others have said, to each their own. I just got used to slim ladies with big hooters, fake or not. The Curvy ones are nice to talk to, but they just don't get me going today. I do appreciate it that the ladies mention their enhancements when they advertise. That way there are no unmet expectations and no insulting situations created.
KnoxYankee
10-23-14, 10:44
As upset as your are, I have no issue with the the number of reviews a provider has. It is the volume in which a provider see's her clientele. There is a difference between a high volume provider and being a good or great provider who has a lot of reviews.
I've seen many who have a lot of reviews and give a great experience: Jessica Rockefeller, JH, Barbie, Ashley, Bunny, Cody Lane. Some with E.com and some here.
But nevertheless Knox Yankee, let's just call it a case of YMMV. You liked Annabelle. I thought something was off when I saw her. No big deal. If I post about my experience and it isn't indicative of your past experience, it's not an attack on you. I just had a different experience.Coolkat I would like to apologize for my earlier rant that was directed at you. Thank for your cool and level headed response to my ill advised tangent.
I was sorely mistaken that you where trying to put down providers who where not UTR and that you where above us for not seeing well known providers who had many clients. Know I see just how wrong I was and your not that guy " The one who sits behind the velvet rope ordering bottle service and spraying all us rubes with Crystal just to rub in".
As far as Annabelle goes I have not dreamed of her as I was giving an ill advised defense of the providers and their clients who I thought you where taking pot shots at for not being exclusive / selective enough. Thank you again for brushing it off as no big deal.
SouthernJohn
10-30-14, 23:16
I read the reviews and think it can't be the same person, or maybe I'm just too picky about what I expect. Looks and body were great but everything else was devastating waste of time & donation. I guess some folks just don't care what they get if a provider puts a nice tooshie in front of them.First, let me start by stating that this post is NOT a defense of any provider or any hobbyist's review. It is also not meant to be a slam of any provider or hobbyist's review. With that said. Let's get to it.
Every hobbyist has personal likes / dislikes and expectations for the experience. Here's the shocker. So do providers. Their performance varies and what they elect to do during each session often varies, as well. The top-shelf providers have typically mastered the ability to adapt to almost any hobbyist and provide them with an outstanding performance. Are all of the sessions the same? No. So, unless you are shelling out serious cash for a top shelf provider, the "outstanding experience" is far from guaranteed. Now, if the session is not going like you want, communicate your desires. If you choose to remain silent. You deserve what you tolerate.
If you don't really click with a provider, don't see her again. If you write a review, identify what didn't work for you. If you click with a provider, see her again. If you write a review, identify what did work. But let's be sure we do one another a favor. Communicate. We can then all read the reviews and determine if that's the kind of girl we want to go see.
It doesn't help when we make disparaging remarks about other hobbyists' tastes or expectations. I've seen negative reviews from hobbyists about girls that I've enjoyed and also had bad experiences with girls that some hobbyists rave about. I didn't assume those hobbyists were suffering from cranial-rectal-insertion. I was thankful that they shared their information.
Maybe I'm new to the local board and my posts numbers aren't high, but I've seen well over 100 providers (good and bad) across the nation. My commitment is to share information so that we all have a better time in the hobby and can avoid huge wastes of time / money. Remember the purpose of the board and use it for our good.
SouthernJohn.
BallBuster
10-31-14, 10:05
Look out for long haired surfer type driving red suburban SUV. Sets appts takes forever to get there. When he shows down, when he leaves it's gone! Thinks he's hot, ballcap on, and UT student. Looking to cash and dash, He may call from diff eightsixfive 7 eightnine one. Watch out, thinks he's slick!Or maybe he came looking for a 35 year old woman and not happy when he instead met the 54 yr old psychopath? Just sayin?
Member #4430
10-31-14, 10:49
Or maybe he came looking for a 35 year old woman and not happy when he instead met the 54 yr old psychopath? Just sayin?Guy been better off seeing Rose.
Member #5289
10-31-14, 20:47
First, let me start by stating that this post is NOT a defense of any provider or any hobbyist's review. It is also not meant to be a slam of any provider or hobbyist's review. With that said. Let's get to it.
Every hobbyist has personal likes / dislikes and expectations for the experience. Here's the shocker. So do providers. Their performance varies and what they elect to do during each session often varies, as well. The top-shelf providers have typically mastered the ability to adapt to almost any hobbyist and provide them with an outstanding performance. Are all of the sessions the same? No. So, unless you are shelling out serious cash for a top shelf provider, the "outstanding experience" is far from guaranteed. Now, if the session is not going like you want, communicate your desires. If you choose to remain silent. You deserve what you tolerate.
If you don't really click with a provider, don't see her again. If you write a review, identify what didn't work for you. If you click with a provider, see her again. If you write a review, identify what did work. But let's be sure we do one another a favor. Communicate. We can then all read the reviews and determine if that's the kind of girl we want to go see.
It doesn't help when we make disparaging remarks about other hobbyists' tastes or expectations. I've seen negative reviews from hobbyists about girls that I've enjoyed and also had bad experiences with girls that some hobbyists rave about. I didn't assume those hobbyists were suffering from cranial-rectal-insertion. I was thankful that they shared their information.
Maybe I'm new to the local board and my posts numbers aren't high, but I've seen well over 100 providers (good and bad) across the nation. My commitment is to share information so that we all have a better time in the hobby and can avoid huge wastes of time / money. Remember the purpose of the board and use it for our good.
SouthernJohn.Well you made some sense but it's important to know the facts behind review in the 1st place before offering recommendations. As matter of fact she was informed 100% of what I liked and the type of visit that I enjoy the most, so she already had that information. However when a provider makes the choice the chemically alter their state of mind to the point they can't hardly stand up then then they deserve whatever review they get. I have not even scratched the surface of what made my visit such a terrible experience. Now for those men that choose to spend time with her and then rave about how great she I can only assume they are not very picky. Like I said before, once a lot of men see a cute ass they tend to overlook the rest of the train wreck standing in front of them.
PM for details. If you see her your future and good name is at high risk.Ok terrible service is one thing but to say this lady is going to hurt someone or snitch is a little cray. She has reviews from SR's who say they enjoyed. I've seen her at her place 3 times service was ok and I definitely didn't feel like I was in danger. She took her criticism, worked on her skills, and has improved I can respect that! This lady is not trying to harm anyone we know all about your reasons for not seeing her and you've made your point. No need to keep beating the drum because obviously no one is listening because they continue to see her. Numbers Never Lie.
SouthernJohn
10-31-14, 21:56
Well you made some sense but it's important to know the facts behind review in the 1st place before offering recommendations. As matter of fact she was informed 100% of what I liked and the type of visit that I enjoy the most, so she already had that information. However when a provider makes the choice the chemically alter their state of mind to the point they can't hardly stand up then then they deserve whatever review they get. I have not even scratched the surface of what made my visit such a terrible experience. Now for those men that choose to spend time with her and then rave about how great she I can only assume they are not very picky. Like I said before, once a lot of men see a cute ass they tend to overlook the rest of the train wreck standing in front of them.I think you just proved my point. We don't know what happened in your session just like you don't know what happened in ours. If you would like to make assumptions that everyone else experienced what you did and then make remarks on usasg about other hobbyists having lower standards, that is your right (just not very helpful). It is the equivalent of others assuming that the only way for her be in the same room with certain clients is to over-medicate (not my belief, but an equally absurd assumption).
As for the fact that you had told her what type of session you enjoy / desire and she failed to deliver, that is a big issue. In fact, it is the exact opposite of what this hobby is about. My comments in the earlier post were not meant to imply that you failed to communicate your wishes to her. My post was generic in nature and, in hind-sight, I probably shouldn't have included your post as my launch point. I see where that may have caused some confusion. My apologies.
I believe that we should express what we liked or didn't like about OUR session. I appreciate you choosing to share the negative aspects with the rest of us so we know that there is a risk of that happening to us. I never implied or expressly stated that I had any issue (or disagreed) with your review of the session. I merely pointed out that making negative comments about other hobbyists serves no purpose. BTW, I wasn't offended by your comment, but I've seen the war of words on other boards when hobbyists take sides about a provider. Lets not go there.
If you feel the need to discuss this further, lets take it to pm.
SouthernJohn.
Member #4430
10-31-14, 22:46
Ok terrible service is one thing but to say this lady is going to hurt someone or snitch is a little cray. She has reviews from SR's who say they enjoyed. I've seen her at her place 3 times service was ok and I definitely didn't feel like I was in danger. She took her criticism, worked on her skills, and has improved I can respect that! This lady is not trying to harm anyone we know all about your reasons for not seeing her and you've made your point. No need to keep beating the drum because obviously no one is listening because they continue to see her. Numbers Never Lie.How ironic out of the 25 to 30 guys that emailed me today only to know my concerns you were never one of them so you have no clue what you're talking about until I just emailed you my concern if you want to continue to see Alexia then go ahead as for me and the 25 to 30 other men in this area we decided not to see her.
YMMV. She can be a good date, or the best example of CXGFE (Crazy XGF Experience). Where to begin? I've been waiting weeks for her to make it right on her cash and dash, theft restitution and unpaid signature loans. Got paid 2%, no date, just excuses. She threatened to kill me, or have me beaten up, if I reviewed her on USA, yet still wanted me to pay to play. As a victim of over 100 violent rapes including attempted murders, including by USA members, I suspect her threats are just normal PTSD of such a rape victim, and extreme addiction to opiates, judging by my other violent UTR roommate with a history of extreme rape and attempted murder. It may be you won't see this side of her until she feels comfortable with you haha, and I'm not the only one. Many USA mongers don't care if a provider shoots up every dollar of income, nor do they care if they are doing a rape victim in pain, some would even enjoy a thrill of rape (you know who you are).
My latest experiences. I will say I always enjoyed our play time together, though its rarely what I want and agreed upon. More GFE I guess, I make sure she enjoys herself as much as possible (no matter who I'm with). I enjoy a woman enjoying herself, 20 times or more per session LOL, but only clean ladies are capable of this. This girl has been in extreme emotional pain for nearly a year, PM for details. No O until our self administered magic bullet, then oral. Couldn't F more than 5 minutes due to extreme pain from being worn out, and recent violent rape I'm still in court over trying to get her medical care for. Lately felt like I was just another ride of the day, zero interest, just hop on and go. Had an awesome double but she nearly tore my manhood off with her kung fu grip trying to extort more roses, then she put our double partner in jail, PM for details.
Thefts from me at the felony level, PM for details. Many more expenses trying to salvage her train wreck, as USA guys called it long ago.
Extortion. Imagine a scary XGF showing up at work or home and refusing to leave without cash and dash. She has zero bills thanks to me paying them up till now, she has no rent, no electric, no food, no phone, no child support, so don't fall for her tantrums.
Don't get me wrong, she's an amazing young woman with many awesome qualities, the more time you invest in her the more you get to see. Professional model, professional dancer, stripper, lesbian porn star. But the dark side of the projects, disease of addiction and family disaster has taken its toll. Her incall location actually resulted in bullets holes in her visitor's vehicle.
She's angry my previous review allegedly affected her income, but that's the point of USA isn't it? Her misbehavior wasnt corrected. She can still get plenty of customers without USA. For some reason she won't see most of her old favs on USA, people who stood by her in hard times, at least not for play. I respect any choice she makes, nor do I judge, who am I to do that since I'm on here too? But theres professional courtesy and human decency that's lacking lately in our business dealings and "friendship". I wish her no harm in person or business, and she's potentially an excellent business owner previously earning over $100,000 a year on USA, all paid to dealers and notels. As long as you remain at a distance, you may have a good time? IDK and IDC. I've wiped our slate clean. I wish her good luck and fortune.
BTW my current fav UTR is just as crazy, or more so, cash and dash, theft, armed robbery, extortion, violence and mayhem against me and everyone else. She stalks USA mongers hunting streetwalkers. She cries that she destroys everyone around her with her addictions. But she's a sweetie roommate too. If this is the kind of lady you seek, go for it! Don't let me stop you. Cant possibly be worse than a crazy wife or xwife, and a whole lot cheaper, you married guys know what im talkin about!Ok one day she's a good girl and we should treat her right now this. Which is it? It sounds like you're a little too involved with this provider. But I appreciate the info I saw her and she was pretty basic. Not a fan of the neighborhood or the scrub sitting in the car either(getajob). I understand a pimp/handlers role but you providers letting these bums suck up all your $ while they do nothing you will never get ahead. Nice girl just on the wrong path.
How ironic out of the 25 to 30 guys that emailed me today only to know my concerns you were never one of them so you have no clue what you're talking about until I just emailed you my concern if you want to continue to see Alexia then go ahead as for me and the 25 to 30 other men in this area we decided not to see her.Ok I clearly said we know your reasons for not seeing her. And I don't have to email you I can google or bing just like you so you don't have to act like you've been doing great detective work. Idc who emailed you she has positive reviews from SR's on this board as recent as yesterday. We know about the past but it seems to me she just wants to make her $ and stay out the way she doesn't bother anyone. And I don't see her but the 3 times I did I didn't feel in any danger! All I'm saying is you made your point you don't have to keep attacking her. And clean out your inbox I tried to pm you.
My halloween started out OK, my fav stripper UTR FB called me, homeless again, needed a place to stay. Spent a quiet evening with dinner, bathing and bed. She was clean for a change, detoxing, needing hours of massage and cuddles while shivering under the blankets. Cried how she destroyed her XBF and everyone else around her (me included). Said she loved me, admitted she loved our sex, though repeating I'm "not her type". Previously admitted she can't understand how a hottie like her keeps obsessing about little old me (I got game LOL). She buys me dinner, clothes and invites me on vacations to exciting destinations, usually involving strip clubs.
Woke at 5 am. Breakfast 5:45. The screaming started at 6. The throwing at 6:05. The breakup by 7. Carnage and mayhem includes my broken glasses, my broken car rearview mirror, my broken cell. She did all the screaming. Seems she likes to throw things to get what she wants. My money! Knows my payroll dates better than I do. A dangerous thing to have known by a cash and dasher, shoplifter, thief, armed robber, pistol whipper, stalker of SW mongers, gangrape victims left for dead in an ally, forced to dig her own grave by a rapist babydaddy, beaten by 300 gangbangers in the darkest projects. PTSD on crack and heroin. Like a mafia enforcer smashing and crashing until his or her victim caves and pays.
Normally she reserves her violent tantrums for her married XBF sugardaddy, who paid her $5,000 a month until his inevitable BK. She still sees him everyday, when they torture each other mercilessly. His wife now knows. She's not a happy camper. So now I'm in BF territory, violence normally reserved for significant others, how sweet LOL.
She called me later, for a ride, and a bed. I said Yes.Probably should transfer thinking to the big head for a while. Hhahaha.
Dude, I'm not in Knox anymore, but I visit and read here regularly. I'm a huge fan of fiction. Love to read constantly. But your stories are getting a little unbelievable. And, as a bit of advice, give some detail. A name, maybe? I mean, if theses girls are ones the rest of us might see, or have seen, we'd like to know who the heck you're referencing. If they're true UTR's and only you are seeing them, who the hell cares? If the stories are real but none of us will ever see or experience this crazy, what's the point? I'm thinking this is all fiction. How many multiple-rape strippers / UTR's can there be around here? And how much crazy can one guy afford?
Just my opinion, of course. Maybe others on here know who you're talking about.
Dr Holiday
11-01-14, 11:04
Probably should transfer thinking to the big head for a while. Hhahaha.Not just about dealing with providers. But for dealing with women in general. LOL.
Member #4430
11-01-14, 13:11
Some more friendly advice leave the women alone and buy you a puppy LOL.
"Tips, Tricks, Arguing, and Bullshit: This is the place for postings on argumentative bullshit. Please keep the {real} threads committed to the enjoyment of the hobby, and the adoration of women". Wanted to re-post the very first entry here - - - looks like it's working.
We've had recent discussions on lot of things: looks, description terms, the good / bad, even some personal life-drama diary entries.
One thing though: I've previously gotten in trouble with the boss on here for not 'properly moderating' personal insults, diatribes, or other flaming posts by members {made against} other members. So please, be respectful -- and keep that in mind as we keep things lively.
I stopped listening to him awhile ago. A certain provider had some things to say that painy things in a different light. I'm sure the truth lies in the middle. And I'm not sure there are many of us on here that can claim weve got game LOL.
I stopped listening to him awhile ago. A certain provider had some things to say that painy things in a different light. I'm sure the truth lies in the middle. And I'm not sure there are many of us on here that can claim weve got game LOL.Someone please get him some balloons he's looking for a pitty party. Lmafo!!
Someone please get him some balloons he's looking for a pitty party. Lmafo!!Yeah I'm sad she forced me to bath her and give her a nude massage all night and tell me she loves me, even if she's a pathological liar LOL. I hate rubbin on naked strippers haha. God they love it, who knew?
Eatn dinner with her now. Hate it.
Another wannabe UTR invited me to a 2nd dinner in an hour, homecooked, wants to suk me n more, tells me she luvs me, gives me free strip shows wit hubby in room next door.
Yall need to up ur game, the girls of USA will teach u if u let them, theyre experts of PUA!!!
How ironic out of the 25 to 30 guys that emailed me today only to know my concerns you were never one of them so you have no clue what you're talking about until I just emailed you my concern if you want to continue to see Alexia then go ahead as for me and the 25 to 30 other men in this area we decided not to see her. I understand your concern. Admin has said it before no one has ever been arrested for their activities on this forum. She post here and another site before here and not one Shadey incident or LEO situation. She does what she does and stays out the way basically trying to move on from that situation. I haven't seen her since Feb so I have no reason to defend her. I just don't think she should be attacked for her past.
The drama abounds. Let me see, is it Lexi, Alexia, Alexis, AlexiaWonder, or Sexy Lexi. We need to assign these providers with a number or letter designation, making it easier for us old timers to keep up.
I just don't know what to do or where to turn. I know, I'll just go see Renee and then afterwards stand in front of a bus.
JourneyMan
11-02-14, 14:42
I message the monger and how is she dangerous? Which he went into great detail and said I could Google the story for one if you believe every in the MSM tells you God, help you then I called and told what he said she didn't lie about it but there was more facts Which I believe her side of the story. It sound like more like sour grapes coming from him, since he didn't get want he wanted some people need to grown up, I found the comment that she'll throw us under the bus too ridiculous. She is trying to move on with her life. But now her reputation and livelihood has been destroyed by this follow more if your high profile individual common sense should apply never tell them your real name and use a bat-phoneto protect your identity that's mongler 101 and don't tell them your deepest darkest secretssuch as how much money you embezzled from your company and where you Missing ex-wife bodies is buried. Follow those rules will be alright.
Member #4430
11-03-14, 00:08
I message the monger and how is she dangerous? Which he went into great detail and said I could Google the story for one if you believe every in the MSM tells you God, help you then I called and told what he said she didn't lie about it but there was more facts Which I believe her side of the story. It sound like more like sour grapes coming from him, since he didn't get want he wanted some people need to grown up, I found the comment that she'll throw us under the bus too ridiculous. She is trying to move on with her life. But now her reputation and livelihood has been destroyed by this follow more if your high profile individual common sense should apply never tell them your real name and use a bat-phoneto protect your identity that's mongler 101 and don't tell them your deepest darkest secretssuch as how much money you embezzled from your company and where you Missing ex-wife bodies is buried. Follow those rules will be alright.Livelihood. . dude Food City is hiring. I've never seen her and never will. Next time I put out a warning or offer utr info don't come to me.
Dr Holiday
11-03-14, 08:45
Just for a piece. Particularly since there is SOO much out there. . We are risking health at some level every time but tacking on some more? Some recent statements hit me as seriously thinking with the small head IMO (why this is in bull shit, LOL). Heck, the incident is still in the paper and TV as of last week. Not to mention, in a post by the good time in question said she was still friends with the LE dude who got so trashed. So how "past" is past. Not at all IMO. She gets grabbed in a BP sting. Got history of cooperation with LE. " Moving on with her life" will go right out the window for saving ones butt IMO. Besides since trials will be ongoing for years yet. This won't be "past" for a very very long time. If one was a lawyer (and some of you are), one would have to be out of ones mind for sure IMO. Oh, BTW as for the fake names etc. , back when one of the working girls husband was an defrocked ex LEO, he used to sit outside and run license plate numbers. Used to be a scam here while back, girls had little lipstick cameras with a pinhole in there purses.
This is a risky business without looking for more IMO. But we all choose what level of risk we will assume. Ain't america great.
Why"all got to be adrenalin junkies along with horney bastards. LOL. Besides amazed, your courage impresses me. I'm a scardy cat horney bastard.
So thanks Mt. Eagle. Good spot IMO. This board is about info. Safety being one of them. I was looking at the great reviews. Nice to be able to choose with more info.
If I can ever help you. You got it.
Have fun, I hope nothing bad ever happens to anybody (wishful thinking on my part like I said BS out of me today).
Just for a piece. Particularly since there is SOO much out there. . We are risking health at some level every time but tacking on some more? Some recent statements hit me as seriously thinking with the small head IMO (why this is in bull shit, LOL). Heck, the incident is still in the paper and TV as of last week. Not to mention, in a post by the good time in question said she was still friends with the LE dude who got so trashed. So how "past" is past. Not at all IMO. She gets grabbed in a BP sting. Got history of cooperation with LE. " Moving on with her life" will go right out the window for saving ones butt IMO. Besides since trials will be ongoing for years yet. This won't be "past" for a very very long time. If one was a lawyer (and some of you are), one would have to be out of ones mind for sure IMO. Oh, BTW as for the fake names etc. , back when one of the working girls husband was an defrocked ex LEO, he used to sit outside and run license plate numbers. Used to be a scam here while back, girls had little lipstick cameras with a pinhole in there purses.
This is a risky business without looking for more IMO. But we all choose what level of risk we will assume. Ain't america great.
Why"all got to be adrenalin junkies along with horney bastards. LOL. Besides amazed, your courage impresses me. I'm a scardy cat horney bastard.
So thanks Mt. Eagle. Good spot IMO. This board is about info. Safety being one of them. I was looking at the great reviews. Nice to be able to choose with more info.
If I can ever help you. You got it.
Have fun, I hope nothing bad ever happens to anybody (wishful thinking on my part like I said BS out of me today).She's been banned time to move on. He got what he wanted I hope he gets a cookie!
Dr Holiday
11-03-14, 12:36
She's been banned time to move on. He got what he wanted I hope he gets a cookie!I'll never criticize who anybody sees. But my point is, don't attack the messenger. My post is about risk acceptance level. Risk acceptance is different for us wussys.
Why'alls boldness is impressive.
Your right too. Time to move on. I'm going for a nooner with a nice UTR type. Hope your day goes well too.
JourneyMan
11-03-14, 13:23
Livelihood. . dude Food City is hiring. I've never seen her and never will. Next time I put out a warning or offer utr info don't come to me.Food City is hiring? They pay $8 a hour she was at least makes $200 a day trying paying your bills on that. She never put me at risk and I don't believe she would've put anyone else at risk do you really believe the cops are going to wast their time with a misdemeanor, this is more of a issue with you because she wouldn't agree to your demands you could've just posted I didn't enjoy our visit and left it at that and I won't be coming to you for help about UTR.
I'll never criticize who anybody sees. But my point is, don't attack the messenger. My post is about risk acceptance level. Risk acceptance is different for us wussys.
Why'alls boldness is impressive.
Your right too. Time to move on. I'm going for a nooner with a nice UTR type. Hope your day goes well too.No one attacked just difference in opinion.
Member #4430
11-03-14, 17:50
Food City is hiring? They pay $8 a hour she was at least makes $200 a day trying paying your bills on that. She never put me at risk and I don't believe she would've put anyone else at risk do you really believe the cops are going to wast their time with a misdemeanor, this is more of a issue with you because she wouldn't agree to your demands you could've just posted I didn't enjoy our visit and left it at that and I won't be coming to you for help about UTR.Well I guess she'll have more time for you. For the record not once did I feel the need to see her. Why would I see her when I was and am still seeing the likes of Alexis, jada james, and jenna. Alexia pales in comparison. You, load2 and othes can stick with cheap club sodas and I will stick with fine wine! If you are that concerned with her well being then won't you open up your home to her and Richard the judge.
Well I guess she'll have more time for you. For the record not once did I feel the need to see her. Why would I see her when I was and am still seeing the likes of Alexis, jada james, and jenna. Alexia pales in comparison. You, load2 and othes can stick with cheap club sodas and I will stick with fine wine! If you are that concerned with her well being then won't you open up your home to her and Richard the judge.Pull your skirt down!!! I will not be feeding the trolls today.
JimcoStallion
11-04-14, 02:39
Well you made some sense but it's important to know the facts behind review in the 1st place before offering recommendations. As matter of fact she was informed 100% of what I liked and the type of visit that I enjoy the most, so she already had that information. However when a provider makes the choice the chemically alter their state of mind to the point they can't hardly stand up then then they deserve whatever review they get. I have not even scratched the surface of what made my visit such a terrible experience. Now for those men that choose to spend time with her and then rave about how great she I can only assume they are not very picky. Like I said before, once a lot of men see a cute ass they tend to overlook the rest of the train wreck standing in front of them.Alexia had just lost her mother, so what if she had a prescription for some valium!! She def wasn't altering her state of mind to get high, she was dealing w / some serious shit. I saw her shortly after, yes she was a little hazzy but if you had just lost your mother I'm sure you'd be numbing the pain the best way you could too!! Give this girl a break already. 96% of all providers use some chemical to get them seeing guys like us, at least she had a good reason. She was grieving for Petes sake, do none of you have any compassion, or has this lifestyle of lying, decieving, cheating on your wives and then going to church Sun morning completely sucked your heart& soul dry of any humanism left? I guess it must really suck fur some of you who don't have a life besides this, iidk. I'm right there too, so I have no room to judge anyone!! I just think we are bring way too hard on this girl got get past! Hell, I've read all the transcripts, and if you were facing what she was, fed conspiracy (Carries 10 yrs, you'd be a liar if you say you wluldn have done the same thing she did, plus the dealer guys the one who actually threw her and the judgev under the bus, get your facts strait before you post things that aren't even true. The whole transcript is online, if you want the real truth about ego the real snitch in this case is, go read that. Not judt somr trumped up news paper article, where handthe stuff they say isn't even true. Like one article said she was 38? She was bsdekt 30. Thr news, meis tv, could tell you that the rapture has happened and Jesus returned and half you would believe it and / see it was said by the media so it has to be true. Wow.
Just letting you guys know, this is Alexia.
A2
Member #5289
11-04-14, 10:02
Alexia had just lost her mother, so what if she had a prescription for some valium!! She def wasn't altering her state of mind to get high, she was dealing w / some serious shit. I saw her shortly after, yes she was a little hazzy but if you had just lost your mother I'm sure you'd be numbing the pain the best way you could too!! Give this girl a break already. 96% of all providers use some chemical to get them seeing guys like us, at least she had a good reason. She was grieving for Petes sake, do none of you have any compassion, or has this lifestyle of lying, decieving, cheating on your wives and then going to church Sun morning completely sucked your heart& soul dry of any humanism left? I guess it must really suck fur some of you who don't have a life besides this, iidk. I'm right there too, so I have no room to judge anyone!! I just think we are bring way too hard on this girl got get past! Hell, I've read all the transcripts, and if you were facing what she was, fed conspiracy (Carries 10 yrs, you'd be a liar if you say you wluldn have done the same thing she did, plus the dealer guys the one who actually threw her and the judgev under the bus, get your facts strait before you post things that aren't even true. The whole transcript is online, if you want the real truth about ego the real snitch in this case is, go read that. Not judt somr trumped up news paper article, where handthe stuff they say isn't even true. Like one article said she was 38? She was bsdekt 30. Thr news, meis tv, could tell you that the rapture has happened and Jesus returned and half you would believe it and / see it was said by the media so it has to be true. Wow.
Just letting you guys know, this is Alexia.
A2So the power of the P really takes control of some of you all doesn't it. You gullible shmucks that race to defend prostitutes because you believe everything they tell you must be the truth are simply out of touch with reality. I mean who has ever heard of a prostitut lying to get what she wants. Have you no common sense whatsoever, do you not realize that every one of them is going to drop a "oh poor me" story on you. Especially you silly fools that allow them to tug at your heart strings, you got to remember they are where their at because of their life choices along the way, they have the option to go out and get educated and work a regular job just like anybody else but they choose not too. She lost her mother, yeah that's tough, I lost my mother, grandmother, and aunt all in a 2 yr time span but I didn't dive into a bottle of pills, or stick a needle in my arm or suck on a crack pipe. Your defense of her, and your plea to have a heart is ridiculous and a little embarrassing for you as a man. While she is playing you like a violin with her story, she came right out and admitted to me she had taken oxy because that's what she has to do in order to get through it and she also stated that any provider that says she doesn't is a liar. If your going to play game then play it, but don't let it play you. 1st rule of dealing with these girls is you don't believe a word they tell you, hell most of them don't even know what the truth is. You want to say these men don't have a life because they don't believe all their BS, well actually it's the guys that do believe everything these girls tell them and actually think their special to these girls that clearly don't have a life because as soon as you walk out the door she is telling the same thing to another guy that came after you. My opinion, no my experience with her is she is a bold face liar & a pill head which I have no sympathy or patience for. But you want to hang on her every word then that's your choice buddy, but I don't have to depend on providers to get laid, it's simply just quick and easy most times but certainly not a only option so maybe I'm too picky when I don't want to show up and the provider staggering all over the place no matter how nice her ass is, it's just an ass and there is another one right around the corner.
KnoxYankee
11-05-14, 18:32
I blocked TYS along time ago as I always felt like he was a failed script writer for either a LIFETIME Drama or was trying to do a new version of Scared Straight. In his version of Scared Straight it's grown Men he's trying to scare away from the hobby with his tales of providers from hell.
Oh well there is a reason I put this under BS, but when I need a good laugh I will every once and awhile read the guy. Like the time with his tales of bringing a half naked stripper to a nice restaurant offending all the church ladies while her druggy BF sat at the table as well. I admit I can be easily amused but water almost came out of my noise I laughed so hard.
Then he takes pot shots even at a higher end mature escort saying she is nothing more then a shopaholic. Turned the Women she has partnered with against their hubbys and families by making them expect gifts or trinkets for their love or some such BS. That one read like a failed LIFETIME MOVIE SCRIPT.
So the power of the P really takes control of some of you all doesn't it. You gullible shmucks that race to defend prostitutes because you believe everything they tell you must be the truth are simply out of touch with reality. I mean who has ever heard of a prostitut lying to get what she wants. Have you no common sense whatsoever, do you not realize that every one of them is going to drop a "oh poor me" story on you. Especially you silly fools that allow them to tug at your heart strings, you got to remember they are where their at because of their life choices along the way, they have the option to go out and get educated and work a regular job just like anybody else but they choose not too. She lost her mother, yeah that's tough, I lost my mother, grandmother, and aunt all in a 2 yr time span but I didn't dive into a bottle of pills, or stick a needle in my arm or suck on a crack pipe. Your defense of her, and your plea to have a heart is ridiculous and a little embarrassing for you as a man. While she is playing you like a violin with her story, she came right out and admitted to me she had taken oxy because that's what she has to do in order to get through it and she also stated that any provider that says she doesn't is a liar. If your going to play game then play it, but don't let it play you. 1st rule of dealing with these girls is you don't believe a word they tell you, hell most of them don't even know what the truth is. You want to say these men don't have a life because they don't believe all their BS, well actually it's the guys that do believe everything these girls tell them and actually think their special to these girls that clearly don't have a life because as soon as you walk out the door she is telling the same thing to another guy that came after you. My opinion, no my experience with her is she is a bold face liar & a pill head which I have no sympathy or patience for. But you want to hang on her every word then that's your choice buddy, but I don't have to depend on providers to get laid, it's simply just quick and easy most times but certainly not a only option so maybe I'm too picky when I don't want to show up and the provider staggering all over the place no matter how nice her ass is, it's just an ass and there is another one right around the corner.Some of us continue to let the P lead us astray. Not all, but some, are your "friends" until the money stops flowing their way. Then they no longer want to hear from you. I'm still learning this, despite having been in this hobby for over 10 years. So quick test, don't help them, see how many remain your friend. The Load2 is correct as well," Most ladies change after a few visits some for the better some for the worse. I just don't get too comfortable with them, keep it professional, and remember its just business no matter how nice or cool one may be. " But like Mr. Larson says, they pull on our heart strings. What are we to do?
Member #4430
11-05-14, 22:30
Some of us continue to let the P lead us astray. Not all, but some, are your "friends" until the money stops flowing their way. Then they no longer want to hear from you. I'm still learning this, despite having been in this hobby for over 10 years. So quick test, don't help them, see how many remain your friend. The Load2 is correct as well," Most ladies change after a few visits some for the better some for the worse. I just don't get too comfortable with them, keep it professional, and remember its just business no matter how nice or cool one may be. " But like Mr. Larson says, they pull on our heart strings. What are we to do?Been like this since the beginning when Eve said Adam eat of this fruit. It is good.
I blocked TYS along time ago as I always felt like he was a failed script writer for either a LIFETIME Drama or was trying to do a new version of Scared Straight. In his version of Scared Straight it's grown Men he's trying to scare away from the hobby with his tales of providers from hell.
Oh well there is a reason I put this under BS, but when I need a good laugh I will every once and awhile read the guy. Like the time with his tales of bringing a half naked stripper to a nice restaurant offending all the church ladies while her druggy BF sat at the table as well. I admit I can be easily amused but water almost came out of my noise I laughed so hard.
Then he takes pot shots even at a higher end mature escort saying she is nothing more then a shopaholic. Turned the Women she has partnered with against their hubbys and families by making them expect gifts or trinkets for their love or some such BS. That one read like a failed LIFETIME MOVIE SCRIPT.I'm thinking about putting him on my IL too. I have nothing against him but I don't want to see this shit when I come to the forum. He's gone from tall tales to Andrea The Giant tales. (R. I. P.) So redic!
What's with all this Ramblin, men? I know this is the BS page, but come on!
KnoxYankee
11-06-14, 20:00
Halloween is over that means it's time to stop feeding the trolls, so they can crawl back in their holes under a rock or bridge. Hopefully they will stop performing their tricks.
Member #5090
11-07-14, 12:04
Looking for info on a good, cheap hotel. Prefer something $40 or less without worries of bugs crawling across me. And her. Might be asking a lot. LOL Thanks for any help.
You do not see us for free so when you ask us to come see you and we can't. You have no right to have an attitude. I just had provider give me all kinds of attitude over this shit. Asked me to come to her incall b4 checkout. Was very nice while she asked. As soon as she knew I wasn't coming things changed. I get called a no show when we never scheduled an appointment at all. The same thing happened last night. Wanted to come by for a rushed visit b4 she went somewhere. I don't rush period so I'd rather not do anything. I could easily put you on blast but I'm not. I just didn't deserve the attitude. When I come see you im always nice and respectful and that's all that matters.
I'm thinking about putting him on my IL too. I have nothing against him but I don't want to see this shit when I come to the forum. He's gone from tall tales to Andrea The Giant tales. (R. I. P.) So redic!I could have written a reply, or called him out on the specifics of his "decade in the military" but having other demands for my time including hard physical labor on my land, trimming my prolific nose hairs, cleaning out the garage, or drinking a sixpack and watching college football with my dog, I simply could not find the time and chose the "ignore" option as suggested by A2. After all, life is short.
KnoxYankee
11-08-14, 15:27
You do not see us for free so when you ask us to come see you and we can't. You have no right to have an attitude. I just had provider give me all kinds of attitude over this shit. Asked me to come to her incall b4 checkout. Was very nice while she asked. As soon as she knew I wasn't coming things changed. I get called a no show when we never scheduled an appointment at all. The same thing happened last night. Wanted to come by for a rushed visit b4 she went somewhere. I don't rush period so I'd rather not do anything. I could easily put you on blast but I'm not. I just didn't deserve the attitude. When I come see you im always nice and respectful and that's all that matters.The whole purpose of this hobby and going with a provider is so you will not get any hassle like you described. It was said best that we don't pay them just for sex it's so they leave us alone when where done. In other words a real 100% NSA mutually beneficial relationship. Who needs to put up with the shit you described she's pulling when a SO, single MOM looking for a Father figure, or Wife can nag you.
Your a Saint Load to still be nice and polite to her.
You do not see us for free so when you ask us to come see you and we can't. You have no right to have an attitude. I just had provider give me all kinds of attitude over this shit. Asked me to come to her incall b4 checkout. Was very nice while she asked. As soon as she knew I wasn't coming things changed. I get called a no show when we never scheduled an appointment at all. The same thing happened last night. Wanted to come by for a rushed visit b4 she went somewhere. I don't rush period so I'd rather not do anything. I could easily put you on blast but I'm not. I just didn't deserve the attitude. When I come see you im always nice and respectful and that's all that matters.Its like they start to think they are entitled to your money.
You do not see us for free so when you ask us to come see you and we can't. You have no right to have an attitude. I just had provider give me all kinds of attitude over this shit. Asked me to come to her incall b4 checkout. Was very nice while she asked. As soon as she knew I wasn't coming things changed. I get called a no show when we never scheduled an appointment at all. The same thing happened last night. Wanted to come by for a rushed visit b4 she went somewhere. I don't rush period so I'd rather not do anything. I could easily put you on blast but I'm not. I just didn't deserve the attitude. When I come see you im always nice and respectful and that's all that matters.This same thing has happened to me twice with the same provider. When I get a text asking to have a dream and decline the provider goes into a rage. Not going to repeat with that.
Kind of attitude.
Looking for info on a good, cheap hotel. Prefer something $40 or less without worries of bugs crawling across me. And her. Might be asking a lot. LOL Thanks for any help.Just my opinion, could be wrong: "no worries" (about bugs, car break-ins, thefts, etc.) starts around $60-70. Red Roof and La Quinta tend to be pretty decent. The Cedar Bluff Red Roof charges around 50, but that pre-tax. That's the cheapest I know of that's still good. Cheaper than that usually means it's a very low-demand place, and usually there are very good reasons for that.
I could have written a reply, or called him out on the specifics of his "decade in the military" but having other demands for my time including hard physical labor on my land, trimming my prolific nose hairs, cleaning out the garage, or drinking a sixpack and watching college football with my dog, I simply could not find the time and chose the "ignore" option as suggested by A2. After all, life is short.Works like a charm all of his jibberish has been blocked out. It's good not having to scroll through 2 or 3 pages just to see real reviews and informative comments.
Alexia had just lost her mother, so what if she had a prescription for some valium!! She def wasn't altering her state of mind to get high, she was dealing w / some serious shit. I saw her shortly after, yes she was a little hazzy but if you had just lost your mother I'm sure you'd be numbing the pain the best way you could too!! Give this girl a break already. 96% of all providers use some chemical to get them seeing guys like us, at least she had a good reason. She was grieving for Petes sake, do none of you have any compassion, or has this lifestyle of lying, decieving, cheating on your wives and then going to church Sun morning completely sucked your heart& soul dry of any humanism left? I guess it must really suck fur some of you who don't have a life besides this, iidk. I'm right there too, so I have no room to judge anyone!! I just think we are bring way too hard on this girl got get past! Hell, I've read all the transcripts, and if you were facing what she was, fed conspiracy (Carries 10 yrs, you'd be a liar if you say you wluldn have done the same thing she did, plus the dealer guys the one who actually threw her and the judgev under the bus, get your facts strait before you post things that aren't even true. The whole transcript is online, if you want the real truth about ego the real snitch in this case is, go read that. Not judt somr trumped up news paper article, where handthe stuff they say isn't even true. Like one article said she was 38? She was bsdekt 30. Thr news, meis tv, could tell you that the rapture has happened and Jesus returned and half you would believe it and / see it was said by the media so it has to be true. Wow.
Just letting you guys know, this is Alexia.
A2Ha! I apologize to all the mongers out there, I respect and admire these broken dolls, theyre pretty damn tuff and amazing for surviving what they do and what life throws at them, tho most are crazy as hell and by that I mean mentally ill as defined by MDs. They self medicate for their mental illness, whos to say they way is more dangerous than MDs who murder 3-million Murikins every year?. Some of these girls have a very warm heart if you can survive the constant attacks from her biatchshield. I believe they were real people once, but its amazing what a few bean balls from God can do to a persons soul. Who am I to judge wen I'm a member of USA?
A2 gave me some great advice in a PM, we got to learn to cut a girl off when she gets out of line. Thats very hard to do when you start caring for them as a human being. But it still works, at least for yourself. Just ignore the workplace stalkings, battle damage n deth threats.
Am I the only one that thinks these girls shouldn't be posting in the escort section? I guess the Admin would let them know if they could not. I still think its odd! No FS but you're going to offer to take a shower with me hell no! It would have to be a cold shower LOL. Does anyone know what the damage is for a session? I just don't know what joy would come from getting but ass naked, rubbed down with oils, washed off in the shower by a very sexy woman and nothing else happen. Now I will admit I've never had one so Whitney31 / Lexie you're more than welcome to pm me and tell me what I'm missing. I'm curious and confused.
Am I the only one that thinks these girls shouldn't be posting in the escort section? I guess the Admin would let them know if they could not.They absolutely shouldn't and I should get an infraction when I miss one but so many of them do it that a few get through. If you would be kind enough to report it when you see it I will take care of it.
Thanks,
A2
MilfMan865
11-17-14, 20:50
I noticed that a body rub provider and petite backpage provider have posted in the classified section on this site. After reading both of their ads on bpage, I noticed that they place restrictions on the gentlemen that they they would see (although they don't specify on the ads posted here). I won't justify their myopic tendencies by repeating the demographic of gentlemen that they exclude, but I was wondering if that is just their preference or something much worse. I know mongers of all races and socioeconomic background and they enjoy this sport just as much as I do. I normally bypass a provider who chooses to deny admission even when the monger's cash is as green as another, but I was just curious if that is a preference or something much more sinister. I like a variety of women from spinners to smaller BBWs, from skin so pale she's almost transparent up to mahogany, from near dwarf to well over 6' tall, and many combinations thereabouts. Either provider should feel free to shoot me a PM so that I can better understand the nature of the restrictions.
All the best.
MilfMan.
I noticed that a body rub provider and petite backpage provider have posted in the classified section on this site. After reading both of their ads on bpage, I noticed that they place restrictions on the gentlemen that they they would see (although they don't specify on the ads posted here). I won't justify their myopic tendencies by repeating the demographic of gentlemen that they exclude, but I was wondering if that is just their preference or something much worse. I know mongers of all races and socioeconomic background and they enjoy this sport just as much as I do. I normally bypass a provider who chooses to deny admission even when the monger's cash is as green as another, but I was just curious if that is a preference or something much more sinister. I like a variety of women from spinners to smaller BBWs, from skin so pale she's almost transparent up to mahogany, from near dwarf to well over 6' tall, and many combinations thereabouts. Either provider should feel free to shoot me a PM so that I can better understand the nature of the restrictions.
All the best.
MilfMan.I can only speak from my own perspective and observations.
Much can vary between the different socioeconomic levels. While the variances can be exciting and interesting, they can also be drama waiting to happen. The "Trailer-Park Guy" is going to have a very different set of behaviors and expectations than "Suburbia Guy". Some guys are polite, mature, and self-managed. Others require external management. Some guys provide and equal exchange, while others are a bit more draining.
My time and energies are tightly budgeted. While I know what my personal preferences are, that factors in minimally. I know how much energy I have to expend, I know my own interaction skill-level, as well as my own personal limitations, and I try to only accept meeting from guys that seem to match that in their expectations. Luckily for me, I've had very broad exposure to all kinds of wonderful people thru the years, from many backgrounds, countries, and cultures. When they interact with me, I generally understand where they are coming from, as they may be expressing something that others would take offense to; but I, understanding their background, would know that they are not being offensive at all. And I can usually come back, joke, or interact at their level.
However, there are a few types of individuals for whom I do NOT possess this skill. I do not "get them" and they would not "get me". They have certain needs and expectations that I am simply unable to satisfy. We would not relate very well. It would be unfair and cruel to agree to a meeting. Setup for a terrible failure. If I accepted a meeting with such gentlemen, just to make a few bucks.
Sometimes what may appear as narrow-minded on the outside, may very well be someone simply trying to be kind, and wanting that client to have the best experience possible, when they know in that instance that they would not be able to provide it.
This is a very socially oriented business. If a lady has not had the exposure and experience to feel comfortable with a particular type of individual, the kindest thing she can do is allow that person to pass on to someone more equipped for the task.
And as a final note to keep in mind, "even when the monger's cash is as green as another", simply having money to spend does not entitle anyone to anything. Ever.
Stay warm,
Noelle.
ThermoNuclear
11-19-14, 12:50
I can only speak from my own perspective and observations.
Much can vary between the different socioeconomic levels. While the variances can be exciting and interesting, they can also be drama waiting to happen. The "Trailer-Park Guy" is going to have a very different set of behaviors and expectations than "Suburbia Guy". Some guys are polite, mature, and self-managed. Others require external management. Some guys provide and equal exchange, while others are a bit more draining.
My time and energies are tightly budgeted. While I know what my personal preferences are, that factors in minimally. I know how much energy I have to expend, I know my own interaction skill-level, as well as my own personal limitations, and I try to only accept meeting from guys that seem to match that in their expectations. Luckily for me, I've had very broad exposure to all kinds of wonderful people thru the years, from many backgrounds, countries, and cultures. When they interact with me, I generally understand where they are coming from, as they may be expressing something that others would take offense to; but I, understanding their background, would know that they are not being offensive at all. And I can usually come back, joke, or interact at their level.
However, there are a few types of individuals for whom I do NOT possess this skill. I do not "get them" and they would not "get me". They have certain needs and expectations that I am simply unable to satisfy. We would not relate very well. It would be unfair and cruel to agree to a meeting. Setup for a terrible failure. If I accepted a meeting with such gentlemen, just to make a few bucks.
Sometimes what may appear as narrow-minded on the outside, may very well be someone simply trying to be kind, and wanting that client to have the best experience possible, when they know in that instance that they would not be able to provide it.
This is a very socially oriented business. If a lady has not had the exposure and experience to feel comfortable with a particular type of individual, the kindest thing she can do is allow that person to pass on to someone more equipped for the task.
And as a final note to keep in mind, "even when the monger's cash is as green as another", simply having money to spend does not entitle anyone to anything. Ever.
Stay warm,
Noelle.Wow. What a wonderfully thoughtful and cogent response! I've never heard of you Noelle, but my interest has been engaged. Carry on!
I noticed that a body rub provider and petite backpage provider have posted in the classified section on this site. After reading both of their ads on bpage, I noticed that they place restrictions on the gentlemen that they they would see (although they don't specify on the ads posted here). I won't justify their myopic tendencies by repeating the demographic of gentlemen that they exclude, but I was wondering if that is just their preference or something much worse. I know mongers of all races and socioeconomic background and they enjoy this sport just as much as I do. I normally bypass a provider who chooses to deny admission even when the monger's cash is as green as another, but I was just curious if that is a preference or something much more sinister. I like a variety of women from spinners to smaller BBWs, from skin so pale she's almost transparent up to mahogany, from near dwarf to well over 6' tall, and many combinations thereabouts. Either provider should feel free to shoot me a PM so that I can better understand the nature of the restrictions.
All the best.
MilfMan.I don't see anything sinister when a girl posts that she only wants to see this or that type. She's not selling books out of a storefront. She's selling a very personal service and should have the right to decide exactly who and when she is willing to sell it to. Don't we also have the right to decide if we want to see this type or that type of lady? Trying to force a girl to see someone she doesn't want to, regardless of the reason, smells too close to trafficking to me.
MilfMan865
11-19-14, 21:44
I can only speak from my own perspective and observations.
Stay warm,
Noelle.Your insightful comments are truly appreciated. Thanks so much.
All the best.
MilfMan.
MilfMan865
11-19-14, 21:51
Trying to force a girl to see someone she doesn't want to, regardless of the reason, smells too close to trafficking to me.Good point. If management is involved, that could turn sour really quickly. The collection of notices that say "I love 'whatever' boys", "No 'whatever' men, sorry", or "I love my clients" listed in the ads.
Happy Hunting,
MilfMan.
Am I the only one that thinks these girls shouldn't be posting in the escort section? I guess the Admin would let them know if they could not. I still think its odd! No FS but you're going to offer to take a shower with me hell no! It would have to be a cold shower LOL. Does anyone know what the damage is for a session? I just don't know what joy would come from getting but ass naked, rubbed down with oils, washed off in the shower by a very sexy woman and nothing else happen. Now I will admit I've never had one so Whitney31 / Lexie you're more than welcome to pm me and tell me what I'm missing. I'm curious and confused.You got to ask for their upsell or have plenty of game LOL.
Not just the good girls, plenty of bad girls say NO but usually mean maybe. You just got to pay their price whatever it may be in cash or benefits.
I'm amazed how many nude models hav adverts saying no nudity LOL.
JoeyMahoney69
11-24-14, 17:34
Wanted some tips from anyone who is very familiar with how Google Voice works. Can I just sign into Google Voice account and my smart phone will automatically ring through the number from Google Voice? I thought this route for the hobby phone might be better than trying to conceal a burner phone all the time. What are your thoughts? Thanks for any help, I didn't want to ask in general reports so I put it here because I am looking for tips from anyone with experience. Thanks JM.
BallSwinger
11-24-14, 20:11
Wanted some tips from anyone who is very familiar with how Google Voice works. Can I just sign into Google Voice account and my smart phone will automatically ring through the number from Google Voice? I thought this route for the hobby phone might be better than trying to conceal a burner phone all the time. What are your thoughts? Thanks for any help, I didn't want to ask in general reports so I put it here because I am looking for tips from anyone with experience. Thanks JM.I've been OK with it. There is definitely some voice delay when both parties are using it. Delays on texts sometimes, but it's overcome by having texts sent to your phone as well. Just got to be careful about replying on your text instead of voice. I suggest you download it and tinker around. The ring-back on calling and the approving calls when receiving threw me off at first. You do have to have a gmail account to tie it to, but that's easy enough. I'm sure you can find somebody trusted to test it with.
BS.
MilfMan865
11-26-14, 00:41
Wanted some tips from anyone who is very familiar with how Google Voice works. Can I just sign into Google Voice account and my smart phone will automatically ring through the number from Google Voice? I thought this route for the hobby phone might be better than trying to conceal a burner phone all the time. What are your thoughts? Thanks for any help, I didn't want to ask in general reports so I put it here because I am looking for tips from anyone with experience. Thanks JM.I'll start by stating that I have major issues with Google's terms of use for how services are linked, data is shared, and their policies for aggregating as much data as possible for the services that they provide. Even with the concerns, I still have a place for Google Voice in my mongering toolkit. Keep in mind that your activity is associated with your Google account, whereas if you use a burner phone that you paid for with cash, you'd just throw the burner phone away free and (virtually) clear. Here's how I have integrated Google Voice:
INCOMING CALLS: I designate all incoming calls from providers into groups and I use sports / game themes for those group names. For example, I screen calls (Basketball), block calls (Dodgeball), send some calls directly to voicemail (Diving), and designate some groups that go directly to my smart phone (Archery). Providers are moved between groups and I manage the groups within Google Voice.
OUTGOING CALLS: I dial my Google Voice number through my phone, enter my pin, then dial the provider's number from there. I have been doing this before the user of smart phones or apps. Using the app may be easier, but this has worked for me. The provider only sees my Google Voice number.
TEXTS: I log into the desktop version of the website, even on my smart phone, to manage texts. I get a notice via email that a text came through, log into the website, then text back and forth. The app may be easier, but this old school method has worked for me. The provider only sees my Google Voice number.
As you can see, I'm still using an old school method to perform tasks that would likely be much easier using the Google Voice app; I'll let someone else chime in on using the app itself.
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I hope that this helps.
Happy Hunting,
MilfMan.
I've been using a burner phone for my hobbying but used google voice app on my android phone early on.
The one thing with the app is that when it's installed, you can set it to use google voice, not use google voice, or ask you each time you make an outgoing call.
I had it set to ask me for my choice and made the mistake of calling a provider and must have picked the not use google voice option.
It didn't occur to me until a few weeks later when the provider texted me on my personal number letting me know she's back in town and wanted to see me again.
Since then I've ditched the google voice option.
I'm not familiar with the new integration with google hangouts, so maybe someone else can share about that.
I use gmail for personal and have used yahoo / outlook for hobbying to keep things separate so there's less risk of accidentally having the 2 cross path.
I've found it better to keep a physically separate hobby phone.
I can only speak from my own perspective and observations.
And as a final note to keep in mind, "even when the monger's cash is as green as another", simply having money to spend does not entitle anyone to anything. Ever.
Stay warm,
Noelle.I can understand the wish to avoid drama. Lord knows we all would if we could. On the other hand, though, I have to wonder what's really being accomplished with these "restrictions". Are the ladies safer for advertising only to guys that are "upscale", older, or white? If so, that's a perfectly reasonable attitude that I can respect. But if we're being honest, no one can really say that a couple of labels are going to be a good enough gauge of a person's character to say how well a night is going to turn out. In my very honest opinion, I think any ladies that can't get a fair read on a guy from a phone call should find a safer, simpler line of work.
I can understand the wish to avoid drama. Lord knows we all would if we could. On the other hand, though, I have to wonder what's really being accomplished with these "restrictions". Are the ladies safer for advertising only to guys that are "upscale", older, or white? If so, that's a perfectly reasonable attitude that I can respect. But if we're being honest, no one can really say that a couple of labels are going to be a good enough gauge of a person's character to say how well a night is going to turn out. In my very honest opinion, I think any ladies that can't get a fair read on a guy from a phone call should find a safer, simpler line of work.I think that the ladies have every right to decide who and when they want to see anyone. As long as they keep up their end of the bargain when they do agree to meet someone, they don't owe any explanation as to why they do or don't. People of different ethnic, social and religious backgrounds are different. Its one thing for government to tell public business that they must do business without respect to these differences, and I agree with that perspective. Its another to try to tell someone they have to have sex with anyone with a dollar bill. Leave it alone.
Sexhoundtn2
12-23-14, 01:40
As I sit and ponder some of the deepest more meaningful subjects in laff often wonder, does it make you gay if you get some serious stimulation out of having your ass licked?
As I sit and ponder some of the deepest more meaningful subjects in laff often wonder, does it make you gay if you get some serious stimulation out of having your ass licked?LOL. Not gay at all. It is very hetro and fun 👍.
As I sit and ponder some of the deepest more meaningful subjects in laff often wonder, does it make you gay if you get some serious stimulation out of having your ass licked?AS long as it isn't a dude or a dog, more power to you. If so, your SICK! Just saying. I have to say though, nothing like it. HUGE turn on. So far for me, only middle aged Asian women have done it to me. Beggars can't be too choosey. Wash you butthole, make you clean, luv you long time. Mo tippp.
LoveToPlease
12-23-14, 09:45
As I sit and ponder some of the deepest more meaningful subjects in laff often wonder, does it make you gay if you get some serious stimulation out of having your ass licked?Not gay at all. About15% of the people I see like to have it licked or fingered. Also many like nipples sucked or pinched. Why not take advantage of all of our sexual sensory spots.
LoveToPlease
12-23-14, 10:27
As I sit and ponder some of the deepest more meaningful subjects in laff often wonder, does it make you gay if you get some serious stimulation out of having your ass licked?Not gay at all. About15% of the people I see like to have it licked or fingered. Also many like nipples sucked or pinched. Why not take advantage of all of our sexual sensory spots.
As I sit and ponder some of the deepest more meaningful subjects in laff often wonder, does it make you gay if you get some serious stimulation out of having your ass licked?No I had it done to me about 2 months ago I just made sure I didn't fart. Now if she sticks her fingers in your ass and you like it you might have to ask yourself some questions. LOL.
Not gay at all. About15% of the people I see like to have it licked or fingered. Also many like nipples sucked or pinched. Why not take advantage of all of our sexual sensory spots.The guys that let you do that are gay. If they'll fingers in there a $$ then they will take a penis. Really what's the diff?
WingShooter
12-23-14, 18:52
As I sit and ponder some of the deepest more meaningful subjects in laff often wonder, does it make you gay if you get some serious stimulation out of having your ass licked?What is the abbreviation for ass licking. Ha!
KenVetteman
12-23-14, 20:05
Some people enjoy internal prostate massage which does include putting a finger in there and some female providers will do that service.
LoveToPlease
12-23-14, 20:13
The guys that let you do that are gay. If they'll fingers in there a $$ then they will take a penis. Really what's the diff?We all have our own opinion and that's okay. Take a look at your penis and look at your finger and you will see there is a great difference. (I know, I've seen both on you.) LOL.
Fireballtn
12-23-14, 22:39
The guys that let you do that are gay. If they'll fingers in there a $$ then they will take a penis. Really what's the diff?If your are going to use that logic then. What's the difference between a guy giving you a blowjob and a girl giving you a blowjob? Just sayin.
The guys that let you do that are gay. If they'll fingers in there a $$ then they will take a penis. Really what's the diff?You don't see the difference between some hottie doing prostate stimulation with a finger and gay sex?
The difference? One is having a legitimate erogenous zone stimulated by a chick and the other one is a penis. Personally it's not my thing, but some guys dig it and I have been told it can be kind of off the hook.
If your are going to use that logic then. What's the difference between a guy giving you a blowjob and a girl giving you a blowjob? Just sayin.I'm going to ignore that dumb shit! But it sounds like you don't mind getting one from either since you don't know the difference. You guys just keep enjoying those fingers up your a$$ I'm good.
You don't see the difference between some hottie doing prostate stimulation with a finger and gay sex?
The difference? One is having a legitimate erogenous zone stimulated by a chick and the other one is a penis. Personally it's not my thing, but some guys dig it and I have been told it can be kind of off the hook.I know I'll have to get my prostate checked one day. Until then I don't want anyone digging in my a$$.
The guys that let you do that are gay. If they'll fingers in there a $$ then they will take a penis. Really what's the diff?Well, a tongue is bigger than a finger. Just sayin.
Well, a tongue is bigger than a finger. Just sayin.Um who are you? I'm just sayin.
Um who are you? I'm just sayin.Just some chick having a little fun with your logic.
"if you'll take a finger, you'll take a dick".
Tongue is larger than finger.
You like the tongue. Ergo.
Experiencing everything that one's unique body can experience is not gay, it's freedom. And if, on that journey, someone discovers they enjoy intimacy with the same sex, that is freedom too. But it won't be because a chick fingered his ass.
Just some chick having a little fun with your logic.
"if you'll take a finger, you'll take a dick".
Tongue is larger than finger.
You like the tongue. Ergo.
Experiencing everything that one's unique body can experience is not gay, it's freedom. And if, on that journey, someone discovers they enjoy intimacy with the same sex, that is freedom too. But it won't be because a chick fingered his ass.Theres a huge difference between licking and sticking.
Theres a huge difference between licking and sticking.I've been licked and sticked. Finger. I enjoyed both. No male was involved with either. Noelle, I'm up for either or both with you. Reciprocating a must. The joys of new experiences particularly with a lovely sexy woman.
I'm not one to have a finger up my bum either but your attempt at logic actually killed a few of my brain cells.
Mr. Load, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.
Mr. Load, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.Well that's why this is this is the tips, tricks, arguing and bullshit thread. So I can "ramble" and say all the "idiotic" bullshit I want. This conversation is a week old and has been put to bed. I'm here for Pussy not points and you can't give me either. Bye Felicia!!
I sucked a dick once and didn't like it.
I sucked a dick once and didn't like it.Some things are better left unsaid. TMI. I'll spend the next hour trying to put my mind's eye out. Jeez.
I sucked a dick once and didn't like it. Wow your 1st post of the year is about sucking someone's C@#K. So what made you do it???
Bye felicia? Are you a 16 year old girl?
I can't even.
Bye felicia? Are you a 16 year old girl?
I can't even.You can't even because you clearly don't know what your talking about. "Bye Felicia" is what Ice Cube and Chris Tucker told the crackhead when she wouldn't leave them the FUCK alone!! "Bye Felicia" Is what people say when someone is bothering them like a pesky drug addict and they have no more time to give to their foolishness. It has nothing to do with age so stay in your lane and once again Bye Felicia!
You can't even because you clearly don't know what your talking about. "Bye Felicia" is what Ice Cube and Chris Tucker told the crackhead when she wouldn't leave them the FUCK alone!! "Bye Felicia" Is what people say when someone is bothering them like a pesky drug addict and they have no more time to give to their foolishness. It has nothing to do with age so stay in your lane and once again Bye Felicia!Yeah, I've seen Friday. I know what it means and I know I've only seen teenagers use it. In addition to utilizing shitty logic you apparently also get wound up easily when someone is just fucking around. Pretty amusing though.
Yeah, I've seen Friday. I know what it means and I know I've only seen teenagers use it. In addition to utilizing shitty logic you apparently also get wound up easily when someone is just fucking around. Pretty amusing though.Well I've seen the Seattle Seahawks Football team use it after beating someone on the field and I never get "wound up" when someone's trolling me I just know slick hating when I see it. Stay in your lane.
Some things are better left unsaid. TMI. I'll spend the next hour trying to put my mind's eye out. Jeez.If I'm not mistaken, he was joking around, but if not, who cares, it was his mouth. LOL.
Ok, I'm more of a lurky as opposed to a poster. Just spent time with Heaven, and she is heavenly. A great girl and my new go to. I usually wouldn't brag, but she asked me to give her a review. She rocks.
Ok, I'm more of a lurky as opposed to a poster. Just spent time with Heaven, and she is heavenly. A great girl and my new go to. I usually wouldn't brag, but she asked me to give her a review. She rocks.That wasnt a review just a simple two words statement. You are doing a disservice to the great of us that post a little more informative reviews so others can make a decision to visit or not. She rocks is like no help.
That wasnt a review just a simple two words statement. You are doing a disservice to the great of us that post a little more informative reviews so others can make a decision to visit or not. She rocks is like no help.All his post are that way. I wouldn't share any info with this person all his post are "I saw her she was good" or "Thinking about making a trip to see this one"(Nashville) again "Thinking about making a trip to see her"(Memphis). And of course "Any info on this one or that one" No follow ups, No real reviews, probably not a real monger. Until someone vouches for this guy I would stay away from MegaTn2.
MissElaine
01-04-15, 16:28
All his post are that way. I wouldn't share any info with this person all his post are "I saw her she was good" or "Thinking about making a trip to see this one"(Nashville) again "Thinking about making a trip to see her"(Memphis). And of course "Any info on this one or that one" No follow ups, No real reviews, probably not a real monger. Until someone vouches for this guy I would stay away from MegaTn2.I had some issues verifying him through one of the girls he claimed to have seen last night and wouldn't see him. So then he blows up my phone for three hours asking for discounts since I cancelled. I finally told him that I was with a friend who wasn't aware of what I did, in hopes that he would stop texting me. He replies with "I can tell her I am picking you up for bible study. " At which point a plethora of more and more annoying "I must see you now" texts began rolling in. Finally just told him to text me tommorow (today) for reschedule. I haven't heard back. It was just strange all around. These guys start rattling off names of these girls expecting us not to check up on them, and I'm for sure not the one to be lying to. Desperation is a stinky perfume, and uncle LEO can't get enough of it.
Mega tn is just a lurker who chooses to gather more information than he posts. I happen to have a mutual friend who vouched for him. He just prefers not to get caught up pretending this forum is a chatroom. He and many others prefer to operate in the shadows, however this doesn't make them any less useful. You can see the stats on this board everytime you get on it, there are a lot of lurkers on here. I am very secretive about the information I give out or exchange as anyone should be cautious. When I get a request or PM for info that I don't want to give out I either ignore it or politely tell them why I don't feel comfortable exchanging information. I have never felt the need to publicly bash someone's credibility. In my opinion Mega tn knows exactly what this forum is about.
It is for getting information about women who want to have sex.I think we all agree that it is a place to get "information". So how can you defend someone who's information is "she rocks". How does that give anyone any glimpse to what his experience was like so in your words he is doing a disservice to us gentlemen and more so to the deserving providers we do have in the area. Good providers are not a given and should be protected to ensure their safety and ability to keep providing the service we crave and most of them want to give. I personally didn't like the review of she rocks and kinda took it of dismissive of this provider. I don't think we as patrons want every little detail but just a few basics is fine. That is just my opinion. I'll keep giving as much detail as I feel comfortable with and sharing the info my providers want shared. Keep our ladies safe.
MilfMan865
01-07-15, 02:31
Numerous associates of mine are small business owners in addition to having a main job at a major corporation or agency. I've seen reports about scoring females at grocery stores, pawn shops, or cell phone stores, and wanted to offer an additional venue. Here's the scenario: female goes to major bank or credit union for a loan. Loan usually denied due to bad credit. Major bank or credit union refers female to a lending service aka "payday loan" office where female attempts to get a loan ranging from $50 - $425. Here is where it gets interesting. If the female has an existing payday loan at another location or has unverifiable income, she will get denied there as well. At this point, her stuff could start getting cut off or repossessed and desperation sets in: phone, electricity, furniture, car, etc. With her permission, my buddies will call me to see if I have "extra work" since I operate numerous small businesses myself. The weeks before and after Christmas through the time the income tax disbursement comes makes this day labor a prime opportunity to score with a variety of extremely appreciative MILFs. It gets exhausting but the supply is plentiful.
Because she's a MILF and I'm a muthaf-er -.
-milfman.
I've got nothing against paying for sex or a woman using her body to make ends meet but actually having a system set up to direct needy women who probably arent considering it your way for some reason doesn't sit well with me. Congrats on the sex though. And I know my sentiment probably won't be popular on here.
BallSwinger
01-07-15, 21:52
I've got nothing against paying for sex or a woman using her body to make ends meet but actually having a system set up to direct needy women who probably arent considering it your way for some reason doesn't sit well with me. Congrats on the sex though. And I know my sentiment probably won't be popular on here.Say what you mean, mean what you say. You've got my respect.
BS.
LoveTheMerch
01-07-15, 23:01
I've got nothing against paying for sex or a woman using her body to make ends meet but actually having a system set up to direct needy women who probably arent considering it your way for some reason doesn't sit well with me. Congrats on the sex though. And I know my sentiment probably won't be popular on here.I felt the same way when I read that post. Just not my game or my style. In the end they are consenting adults, but preying on the desperate in this way just seems over the top for my blood. How it is different than the other exploitation in this hobby, I can define, but it feels different to me. To each their own tho.
LTM.
I've got nothing against paying for sex or a woman using her body to make ends meet but actually having a system set up to direct needy women who probably arent considering it your way for some reason doesn't sit well with me. Congrats on the sex though. And I know my sentiment probably won't be popular on here.I agree with you on this. It seems a little harsh to actively seek out those who are down on their luck. I don't think it applies to all situations I do know one former utr who has a very hi powered career. Did the utr thing and dancing back in the 90's to get to where she is, maybe a former conquest do the Doc.
When someone is truly searching for a way to get themselves out of a hole and you specifically search out those types seems a little seedy.
MilfMan865
01-08-15, 03:19
When someone is truly searching for a way to get themselves out of a hole and you specifically search out those types seems a little seedy.-What is the purpose of this Forum?-
The purpose of this Forum is to facilitate the exchange of information between men who are looking for sex with women.
The information provided was commensurate with that objective. Determining the degrees of seediness is really splitting hairs as in trying to determine who is the most valiant White Knight or Captain Save-A-Ho. Just giving the ladies options and opportunities that they may not have considered (or revisit options previously dismissed for one reason or another). Guaranteed that the annual percentage rate on that transaction won't approach 400% while perpetuating usury. It's hard to imagine a reason a woman should ever be broke since she's sitting on a moneymaker at all times.
Stay Safe,
Milfman.
Dr Holiday
01-08-15, 07:13
I've got nothing against paying for sex or a woman using her body to make ends meet but actually having a system set up to direct needy women who probably arent considering it your way for some reason doesn't sit well with me. Congrats on the sex though. And I know my sentiment probably won't be popular on here.We are all taking advantage of those we see. Greatest share of them (including the lawyers etc. And high end UTRS) we are most often taking advantage of addiction. Never fails to amaze me who's got a nose candy problem. Some times the one I would least expect a doc, lawyer etc. And the regular job can't cover the bills for drugs too. Same with the girls why'all get off the street or an ad somewhere.
So you think that their addiction means you aren't taking advantage of them? LOL. Ok if you say you aren't. But my gut feeling is to say. COME ON Get real guys.
Others we are taking advantage of their relative poverty in relation to us. Got to feed a kid. Need a cell phone. Whatever. Few / none doing it for the sex. In fact, ones you guys in review describe as very tight. You know that biologically when a woman gets into it. She lubricates and opens up. Ever thought your real tight one wasn't having a great time. Just acting? She's doing this because she has too. Lots will lie to you (their in denial too) about how they "chose too". Yes, in a way they did but lots of factors made the direction of the "choice" for them.
So as the merch says. We are here to get laid. Lets not get all fake moralistic that's the goal. I'm taking advantage too. I just go with ones that have a more expensive problem. I just pay better too. LOL.
It ain't a victimless crime just as the goody two shoes types say.. If it makes YOU feel a little better about yourself... You should keep the idea YOU aren't taking advantage.. I know I am..
Lets get back to getting laid.. lol
We are all taking advantage of those we see. ... Lets not get all fake moralistic ...
Lets get back to getting laid.. lolWait a minute. You mean these hot babes aren't practically begging to sleep with me because of my middle-age belly, receding hairline and magnetic personality?
This is crushing to discover.
We are all taking advantage of those we see. Greatest share of them (including the lawyers etc. And high end UTRS) we are most often taking advantage of addiction. Never fails to amaze me who's got a nose candy problem. Some times the one I would least expect a doc, lawyer etc. And the regular job can't cover the bills for drugs too. Same with the girls why'all get off the street or an ad somewhere.
So you think that their addiction means you aren't taking advantage of them? LOL. Ok if you say you aren't. But my gut feeling is to say. COME ON Get real guys.
Others we are taking advantage of their relative poverty in relation to us. Got to feed a kid. Need a cell phone. Whatever. Few / none doing it for the sex. In fact, ones you guys in review describe as very tight. You know that biologically when a woman gets into it. She lubricates and opens up. Ever thought your real tight one wasn't having a great time. Just acting? She's doing this because she has too. Lots will lie to you (their in denial too) about how they "chose too". Yes, in a way they did but lots of factors made the direction of the "choice" for them.
So as the merch says. We are here to get laid. Lets not get all fake moralistic that's the goal. I'm taking advantage too. I just go with ones that have a more expensive problem. I just pay better too. LOL.
It ain't a victimless crime just as the goody two shoes types say.. If it makes YOU feel a little better about yourself... You should keep the idea YOU aren't taking advantage.. I know I am..
Lets get back to getting laid.. lolI'm pretty damn sure that none of the ladies we see do it just for the good sex and they just can't get enough. They have needs and we have needs. They have what we want and we have what they want. The more creatively we get together, the more fun sometimes. And granted, they all aren't fun.
BahamaMama
01-08-15, 08:58
So I was sleeping and dreaming, then I woke up horny and decided to try and get laid, hahahaha. So, I had been corresponding with this girl on Facebook. It was a coincidence that I had contacted her from a bogus account and we started chatting a lot for a couple of weeks after she msg back. She is a provider, but off and on and not from around here. I wouldn't say she is UTR, but doesn't really advertise around here. She says she sees a guy only occasionally out of a few regulars. She may be telling me the truth or she might be seeing 10 guys a day who knows. So I have been chatting her up and we have been talking on the phone etc. We really hit it off before we even met. When she meets me she sees that I am 6'3" and about 265 bodybuilder type. So we are sitting and talking on her bed and she is telling me about being independent. Suddenly she says to me, "But I would do much better to be on a leash, in fact I will feel a lot better if I were on a leash. " Then she nods her head down and gives me this look right into my eyes. I just kinda nodded. She looked away and awkwardly laughed and said, "I,m sorry. " So guys, what does that mean for her to say she would be better off on a leash? Was she asking me to be her pimp, or her aggressive boyfriend or what? I am just not sure how to exactly interpret that statement. So the sex was consensual, free and amazing. I think I am done hunting and I will stick with this girl alone for awhile. That speaks volumes because I am a one time per chick, every time, kinda guy. I am not going to play her up like she is hot shit and you should all be envious of me. I just like her and we have great chemistry. It was by far the best sex of my life. After the sex she says to me that there are guys that pay her and guys she just has sex with. She assured me that I could be one of latter. Also, she is 39, I found this out for sure. She is very sexy though and has a body of a twenty something. A bit rode hard in the face, but that is how like I like them. Think Annabelle, with a house, no drug habit and a respectful attitude. Think tough hot biker chick but insecure and shy. I think I am in love, thank God she doesn't have my real name and number. Bwahahahahahaha. What do you guys think? What does "being on a leash" mean to her, and should I coller her up??
Dr Holiday
01-08-15, 09:14
Wait a minute. You mean these hot babes aren't practically begging to sleep with me because of my middle-age belly, receding hairline and magnetic personality?
This is crushing to discover.I'm about to take advantage of a young single mother. One of the other reasons so many UTR types need cell phones etc. Too many males don't take care of kids you created. I know dozens y'all haven't paid a penny in child support. Deny that if y'all can. LOL.
Damn Galt what a downer, I guess the UTR mom on the way isn't coming over for my fat, old bald self. LOL.
BahamaMama
01-08-15, 09:22
Knoxville. Oh yes, I am such a fool for not seeing the potential all around me. It is the wonderland of UTR's. The place where a loser can bed down doctors. Lawyers and soccer mom's etc etc. It just take some due diligence, some chatting up, and a finally an offer of cash. Hm, where I am from we call that dating and / or having affairs, except we don't have to pay for it. I do that without paying with that kind of effort you guys talk about. The point of UTR's and providers for me is is to pay to get in and out with out trouble, or bother. It is strange to me how the guys here brag about paying to be a part of the local dating scene, but whatever, you guys are awesome. Thanks for all the advice from some of you that have answered my PM's, those that brag about paying women to date them, then sharing no intel. You can kiss my.
I'm about to take advantage of a young single mother. One of the other reasons so many UTR types need cell phones etc. Too many males don't take care of kids you created. I know dozens y'all haven't paid a penny in child support. Deny that if y'all can. LOL.
Damn Galt what a downer, I guess the UTR mom on the way isn't coming over for my fat, old bald self. LOL.They way I see it is the guy that posted that info was just giving out "information" to the ones who chose to utilize that avenue. If you aren't one of those guys just read the post and move on. No need to pass judgement on here for that suggestion. I am with alot of the seniors on here none of us can cast stones because it is true at some level "we" ARE taking advantage of the providers though most are making a more conscience decision to choose to allow us to see them. Basically all I am saying and thinking is to each his own and as long as none of these women are forced by "us" to do something I feel fine. Have fun out there and be safe and watch out for our good providers we don't want to lose them.
@BahamaMama: "What does 'being on a leash' mean to her, and should I coller her up?"
Hey, I know nothing about what women, but if that was said to me I'd immediately change up 'my style' into her fantasy world (of cuffs, ropes, collars, etc.) and 'rough her up a little' in a very sexual, loving, nice way. She'll love it, 'same-ole' sex gets boring.
Then again (or along with that) maybe she just wants a strong MAN (as in disciplined, mature, masculine) to guide her thru life, help her stay on track with good decisions, and keep up with her needs emotionally and financially. I truly believe they ALL instinctively want that, like a caveman thing.
Ex: my old lady vehemently and angrily denies that she likes being told what to do, but says she fell (and stays) in love with me cause I was the only man she's ever met who is 'large and in charge' and she totally loves that. It's all in how you say it, I guess.
Hell, who really knows what they're thinkin'. Been sleeping with them females for 40 years, and I'm as confused as ever. It can be fun to figure out though.
We are all taking advantage of those we see. Greatest share of them (including the lawyers etc. And high end UTRS) we are most often taking advantage of addiction. Never fails to amaze me who's got a nose candy problem. Some times the one I would least expect a doc, lawyer etc. And the regular job can't cover the bills for drugs too. Same with the girls why'all get off the street or an ad somewhere.
So you think that their addiction means you aren't taking advantage of them? LOL. Ok if you say you aren't. But my gut feeling is to say. COME ON Get real guys.
Others we are taking advantage of their relative poverty in relation to us. Got to feed a kid. Need a cell phone. Whatever. Few / none doing it for the sex. In fact, ones you guys in review describe as very tight. You know that biologically when a woman gets into it. She lubricates and opens up. Ever thought your real tight one wasn't having a great time. Just acting? She's doing this because she has too. Lots will lie to you (their in denial too) about how they "chose too". Yes, in a way they did but lots of factors made the direction of the "choice" for them.
So as the merch says. We are here to get laid. Lets not get all fake moralistic that's the goal. I'm taking advantage too. I just go with ones that have a more expensive problem. I just pay better too. LOL.
It ain't a victimless crime just as the goody two shoes types say.. If it makes YOU feel a little better about yourself... You should keep the idea YOU aren't taking advantage.. I know I am..
Lets get back to getting laid.. lolDenial? Me? I don't think you know what you are talking about. I realize this whole hobby is about exploitation yet I somehow find myself appalled by the level this guy is taking it to. Yeah I've put up ads seeking women who might be considering it but never in my wildest dreams would I go to this guys lengths to steer and encourage the downtrodden to sell themselves.
Exploitation at its finest.
Dr Holiday
01-08-15, 13:47
Don't think its going to work if there's a crowd outside the cell phone store. LOL.
I'm with bz. Not forcing anybody. They get to choose. Fine.
I think you all are crazy going to the projects. But not for me to pass judgement. Whatever floats your boat. But its not a lick different from getting one a cell phone or picking one up walking. Its lack of $$$ that got them. One is still exploiting that fact. Hard for me to see knox opinion that one is different from the other. Ain't America wonderful. We can agree to disagree and all get laid.
Member #5090
01-09-15, 11:20
Means she may want to have a Dominant / submissive relationship. Like a Daddy / Babygirl relationship. Hair pulling, spanking, blindfold, handcuffs, tie her to the bed. Light punishment. If I'm right, she's trusts you a lot.
The collar signifies your "ownership" of her.
[\QUOTE]What do you guys think? What does "being on a leash" mean to her, and should I coller her up? QUOTE].
BallSwinger
01-11-15, 03:32
Mandee,
Don't sweat it. I've not seen you or BH, but you know we give zero credibility in guys with minimal posts. And his only 3 are bitching about you. I've seen reviews about you and BH, and they are all good. No reason to waste time defending yourself here against a pass-thru stranger.
BS.
Mandee, ...you know we give zero credibility in guys with minimal posts. And his only 3 are bitching about you.... BS.Even though this is the "Tips, Tricks, ARGUING, and Bullshit" thread, that IS NOT a free pass. And it looked as if the exchange wasn't going to stop, so:
Previous reports were deleted because the content was pointless, unproductive drama. Please read the Forum FAQ and the Forum's Posting Guidelines for more information. Thank You!
The poster's original review is still available, but all the back & forth between them has been removed.
Thanks to BS for the excellent point about credibility.
Hi Guys,
A friend told me a rule long ago. It is called the golden rule, not the Golden Rule. "He, who hath the gold, makes the rules". Think about what this means and how it related to any relationship.
Peace,
Blufod.
Hey Doc,
Always good to see you around. Foood for thought. A woman is giving it up to some guy for "free" at some point, other than the guy's cost of having to expend his energy to give her an ole fashion fuck. I have been this guy. Reminds me of a situation with a former neighbor. Years ago I lived in an apartment complex, and my female neighbor underneath had 3 "friends". One friend took her out to eat and bought her shit but rarely fucked her. Another friend talked with her and might fuck her every now and then. The last friend ONLY fucked her. How do I know. She had ALL 3 at her place one day. First, the buyer took her out that day, and she fucked him. The second friend in a cheaper came by for a few hours, and she fucked him. The last friend came by in a beat up old truck late that night around 11 pm, and she fucked him; he left early that next morning. The apts were built cheaply, so I could hear what the hell that she was doing.
She screamed the loudest and was REAL with the last friend. She was acting with the previous 2 friends. It was the last friend, who was getting it for "free", other than the gas to drive to her place. She did this on a regular basis.
Moral of Story:
Someone is getting it "free".
P.S. The "free" friend was the roughest looking one.
Bluford.
We are all taking advantage of those we see. Greatest share of them (including the lawyers etc. And high end UTRS) we are most often taking advantage of addiction. Never fails to amaze me who's got a nose candy problem. Some times the one I would least expect a doc, lawyer etc. And the regular job can't cover the bills for drugs too. Same with the girls why'all get off the street or an ad somewhere.
So you think that their addiction means you aren't taking advantage of them? LOL. Ok if you say you aren't. But my gut feeling is to say. COME ON Get real guys.
Others we are taking advantage of their relative poverty in relation to us. Got to feed a kid. Need a cell phone. Whatever. Few / none doing it for the sex. In fact, ones you guys in review describe as very tight. You know that biologically when a woman gets into it. She lubricates and opens up. Ever thought your real tight one wasn't having a great time. Just acting? She's doing this because she has too. Lots will lie to you (their in denial too) about how they "chose too". Yes, in a way they did but lots of factors made the direction of the "choice" for them.
So as the merch says. We are here to get laid. Lets not get all fake moralistic that's the goal. I'm taking advantage too. I just go with ones that have a more expensive problem. I just pay better too. LOL.
It ain't a victimless crime just as the goody two shoes types say.. If it makes YOU feel a little better about yourself... You should keep the idea YOU aren't taking advantage.. I know I am..
Lets get back to getting laid.. lol
Dr Holiday
01-27-15, 08:52
Hey Doc,
She screamed the loudest and was REAL with the last friend. She was acting with the previous 2 friends. It was the last friend, who was getting it for "free", other than the gas to drive to her place. She did this on a regular basis.
Moral of Story:
Someone is getting it "free".
P.S. The "free" friend was the roughest looking one.
Bluford.As I have always said, the biggest creators of UTR is drugs. Second, is a dead beat leech of a boy friend that is not only getting it free but sucking the life out of the provider and actually being taken care of. Usually completely scruffy too, Amazing how often the drug user is the leech bf and she funds his habit. Bf or husband never bothers me. Keeps them discrete and makes sure they as charlie sheen said, "I pay them to get up and leave". smart man charlie. LOL.
Dr Holiday
01-27-15, 09:06
Moral of Story:
Someone is getting it "free".
Bluford.Another piece of amazement I have discovered is that with the married UTR types, the husband is the only one that isn't getting any. LOL. After trying marriage a few times and long tern relationships. Definitely was the case for me while in relationships etc. I was getting laid the least. So I resolved, never to purchase territory again. I do long term leasing but renting is better.
The fillies in this old gun shooter doc's OK corral ain't acting. Their getting off and have stuff the husband can't afford. I know enough medicine / physiology to know. I replace the fillies that aren't into it even the drop dead gorgeous ones. Variety is good. Been happy ever since. LOL.
Along with the golden rule another piece of good advice is to follow the 3 F rule. If it Fucks, Floats or Fly's "rent it" otherwise the 2 happiest days you'll have is the day you get it and the day you get rid of it. Aint nothing free in this world!
Along with the golden rule another piece of good advice is to follow the 3 F rule. If it Fucks, Floats or Fly's "rent it" otherwise the 2 happiest days you'll have is the day you get it and the day you get rid of it. Aint nothing free in this world!Already had the two happy days with the float and fly. Now if I could just get rid of the fuck without losing half my shit.
GimpedChef
02-01-15, 20:29
Guys she just keeps getting better. No issues with set up. She was showered and fresh. Both had a great time as usual. Her and I click. Keeps getting better. Be cool and classy and clean and you will be rewarded. Full menu PM for specifics.
And for the record most of these girls will have their incall at a hotel. So if you are too damn fat to walk up 3 flights of stairs without having a coronary then maybe you should pick up a different hobby.WoW!! Is all I can say. What a douche. You know sometimes it is not a matter of somebody being "too damn fat to walk up 3 flights of stairs without having a coronary", especially if the person can not walk and is in a wheelchair.
WoW!! Is all I can say. What a douche. You know sometimes it is not a matter of somebody being "too damn fat to walk up 3 flights of stairs without having a coronary", especially if the person can not walk and is in a wheelchair.Sorry that I offended you.
BallSwinger
02-03-15, 22:54
WoW!! Is all I can say. What a douche. You know sometimes it is not a matter of somebody being "too damn fat to walk up 3 flights of stairs without having a coronary", especially if the person can not walk and is in a wheelchair.Yea, he came off as a bit douchey, but I think your feelers are extra-sensitive.
BS.
Yea, he came off as a bit douchey, but I think your feelers are extra-sensitive.
BS.In my opinion, we have enough to deal with in this hobby (Cash and dash, Uncle LEO, ETC) that we should not have to worry about these type comments, in a review of a provider. I don't think it helped in my opinion to go see her, or not, but it will make me second guess reviews posted by the monger. Don't we live in a society where senseless verbal outbursts like this have been deemed as unnecessary? Once again, just my opinion, but if this board was created to be in the spirit of helping mongers looking to dream with suitable angels to nap with, then that is what it should be, if it was created to allow written diarrhea of anger and hatred towards each other, maybe I need to rethink my participation. As always, Stay SAFE, and ever vigilant. Happy mongering. Austin.
BallSwinger
02-06-15, 21:51
In my opinion, we have enough to deal with in this hobby (Cash and dash, Uncle LEO, ETC) that we should not have to worry about these type comments, in a review of a provider. I don't think it helped in my opinion to go see her, or not, but it will make me second guess reviews posted by the monger. Don't we live in a society where senseless verbal outbursts like this have been deemed as unnecessary? Once again, just my opinion, but if this board was created to be in the spirit of helping mongers looking to dream with suitable angels to nap with, then that is what it should be, if it was created to allow written diarrhea of anger and hatred towards each other, maybe I need to rethink my participation. As always, Stay SAFE, and ever vigilant. Happy mongering. Austin.Fair enough.
BS.
On a scale from 1-10 how gay is it to send me a picture of your cock in an email with the caption saying "suck it?
1 being not gay, 10 being all gay.
Just taking the temperature of the room on this one because it's never happened to me before.
A2.
BallSwinger
02-09-15, 01:29
10. You should be flattered, I think.
BS.
On a scale from 1-10 how gay is it to send me a picture of your cock in an email with the caption saying "suck it?
1 being not gay, 10 being all gay.
Just taking the temperature of the room on this one because it's never happened to me before.
A2.
Thebossmro
02-09-15, 01:40
On a scale from 1-10 how gay is it to send me a picture of your cock in an email with the caption saying "suck it?
1 being not gay, 10 being all gay.
Just taking the temperature of the room on this one because it's never happened to me before.
A2.Yeah that's a 10 for sure LOL.
On a scale from 1-10 how gay is it to send me a picture of your cock in an email with the caption saying "suck it?
1 being not gay, 10 being all gay.
Just taking the temperature of the room on this one because it's never happened to me before.
A2.No doubt a 10.
MissElaine
02-09-15, 09:44
On a scale from 1-10 how gay is it to send me a picture of your cock in an email with the caption saying "suck it?
1 being not gay, 10 being all gay.
Just taking the temperature of the room on this one because it's never happened to me before.
A2.Us girls just loooove getting these haha (sarcasm).
Dr Holiday
02-09-15, 11:24
On a scale from 1-10 how gay is it to send me a picture of your cock in an email with the caption saying "suck it?
1 being not gay, 10 being all gay.
Just taking the temperature of the room on this one because it's never happened to me before.
A2.Not sure about the gay criterion as being the correct assessment. LOL.
FranklinStein
02-09-15, 12:24
On a scale from 1-10 how gay is it to send me a picture of your cock in an email with the caption saying "suck it?
1 being not gay, 10 being all gay.
Just taking the temperature of the room on this one because it's never happened to me before.
A2.364841
The caption seems a bit rude, but I see nothing wrong with a picture of a cock.
On a scale from 1-10 how gay is it to send me a picture of your cock in an email with the caption saying "suck it?
1 being not gay, 10 being all gay.
Just taking the temperature of the room on this one because it's never happened to me before.
A2.I'll say 10 but that pic Franklin posted is funny as hell.
LexintonLuther
02-09-15, 22:22
On a scale from 1-10 how gay is it to send me a picture of your cock in an email with the caption saying "suck it?
1 being not gay, 10 being all gay.
Just taking the temperature of the room on this one because it's never happened to me before.
A2.That made my day! LOL.
Lex.
I'll say 10 but that pic Franklin posted is funny as hell.
364841
The caption seems a bit rude, but I see nothing wrong with a picture of a cock.Made my fucking day. Now the idiot used a site like who is and found the Delaware Corp that owns the web site and he sent me an email with the address of that registration company telling me he's going to be waiting there to kick my ass? Seriously do you have to work at being that stupid or does it just happen?
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Luscious Lexie here just bored and wanting to complain about the snow! Ya'll stay safe and warm. Hopefully all of us can get back to doing whatever it is that we do on a daily basis pretty soon. Good night and be Safe. LL.
I contacted a well reviewed girl recently (who shall remain nameless) and had a discussion that has stirred a debate in this country boy's head. Maybe a few mongers and providers can chime in. I have a SO, so play time is limited and if I'm going home and she is going to be there, I have to be particular about what provider I see and what I do w / them. Therefore, more often than not I try to seek out non smokers and opt for a BBBJ over full service.
Anyhow, during our exchange I was quoted price for her time. Me, being difficult as always, told her I was looking for full service and asked about a BBBJ. I was told it would be the same price (over $100) for a blowjob since I was paying for her time. Needless to say, this didn't happen and the conversation ended shortly afterward.
I know one, maybe both of us may be a little naive in our way of thinking. I realize that she could have easily made more with another client rather than seeing me at the time. But wouldn't you think it would be more beneficial to have a rate for a lesser service? I'm very interested to her a providers perspective on this, although I know from experience that several on the board are more in line with my logic.
I contacted a well reviewed girl recently (who shall remain nameless) and had a discussion that has stirred a debate in this country boy's head. Maybe a few mongers and providers can chime in. I have a SO, so play time is limited and if I'm going home and she is going to be there, I have to be particular about what provider I see and what I do w / them. Therefore, more often than not I try to seek out non smokers and opt for a BBBJ over full service.
Anyhow, during our exchange I was quoted price for her time. Me, being difficult as always, told her I was looking for full service and asked about a BBBJ. I was told it would be the same price (over $100) for a blowjob since I was paying for her time. Needless to say, this didn't happen and the conversation ended shortly afterward.
I know one, maybe both of us may be a little naive in our way of thinking. I realize that she could have easily made more with another client rather than seeing me at the time. But wouldn't you think it would be more beneficial to have a rate for a lesser service? I'm very interested to her a providers perspective on this, although I know from experience that several on the board are more in line with my logic.If all you want is BBBJ at a affordable price then you need to visit loves to please. She is a very personable woman and rates are VERY VERY affordable. You can't go wrong seeing her.
I contacted a well reviewed girl recently (who shall remain nameless) and had a discussion that has stirred a debate in this country boy's head. Maybe a few mongers and providers can chime in. I have a SO, so play time is limited and if I'm going home and she is going to be there, I have to be particular about what provider I see and what I do w / them. Therefore, more often than not I try to seek out non smokers and opt for a BBBJ over full service.
Anyhow, during our exchange I was quoted price for her time. Me, being difficult as always, told her I was looking for full service and asked about a BBBJ. I was told it would be the same price (over $100) for a blowjob since I was paying for her time. Needless to say, this didn't happen and the conversation ended shortly afterward.
I know one, maybe both of us may be a little naive in our way of thinking. I realize that she could have easily made more with another client rather than seeing me at the time. But wouldn't you think it would be more beneficial to have a rate for a lesser service? I'm very interested to her a providers perspective on this, although I know from experience that several on the board are more in line with my logic.Can't seem to edit this, so I'll clarify. I meant to put that I WASN'T looking for full service.
I understand your position completely. I have similar issues and time constraints. When I just have a short time, I look for (and have established relationships) with a few ladies who specifically advertise for 'quick visits' or BJs. I typically find that ladies with a half hour rate will only allow one shot on goal, so it's effectively a quick visit (at least for me, LOL). Thus, I either meet someone who has a quick visit donation specifically or I make time for an hour with someone who allows refills. I've never been so bold as to ask any of the other ladies I regularly meet for a quick visit donation if I don't have time for a full visit, but I have a feeling some of them would be willing to do that off the record. It doesn't hurt to ask.
I think the problem with some providers is there's a stigma associated with offering the single service (like it's a SW thing or something) so they just advertise for the half hour. I don't see it that way at all. It's just the reality of my schedule some time. If I can make a recommendation for your consideration, a super go-to for the quick visit has a handle including the letters 'LTP. '.
Ladies? Any thoughts?
MissElaine
02-20-15, 15:51
I understand your position completely. I have similar issues and time constraints. When I just have a short time, I look for (and have established relationships) with a few ladies who specifically advertise for 'quick visits' or BJs. I typically find that ladies with a half hour rate will only allow one shot on goal, so it's effectively a quick visit (at least for me, LOL). Thus, I either meet someone who has a quick visit donation specifically or I make time for an hour with someone who allows refills. I've never been so bold as to ask any of the other ladies I regularly meet for a quick visit donation if I don't have time for a full visit, but I have a feeling some of them would be willing to do that off the record. It doesn't hurt to ask.
I think the problem with some providers is there's a stigma associated with offering the single service (like it's a SW thing or something) so they just advertise for the half hour. I don't see it that way at all. It's just the reality of my schedule some time. If I can make a recommendation for your consideration, a super go-to for the quick visit has a handle including the letters 'LTP. '.
Ladies? Any thoughts?I'm kind of the opposite. I switched to a flat rate because I was having guys scheduling for an hour so I wouldn't be able to schedule anyone else and they'd only stay for like 15 mins and only expecting to pay like 20 $. So in short- I would give up 150 $ hour appointments for lowballers. If that makes sense. So I feel like 100 $ for up to an hour is more than fair. If they want an hour, its still low price and if they want half, its still right in the normal price range.
I'm kind of the opposite. I switched to a flat rate because I was having guys scheduling for an hour so I wouldn't be able to schedule anyone else and they'd only stay for like 15 mins and only expecting to pay like 20 $. So in short- I would give up 150 $ hour appointments for lowballers. If that makes sense. So I feel like 100 $ for up to an hour is more than fair. If they want an hour, its still low price and if they want half, its still right in the normal price range.Well with you miss elaine I could talk to you for ever and actually I believe I spent 3 times as much time talking than actually dreaming! Which in my book is great.
For those who have recommended her, I agree. I was a regular when she was located in Halls, since I live nearby. I can't say a bad thing about her.
Anything west of downtown would really dig into what little free time I usually have so Karns is a bit of a stretch for me these days.
I'm kind of the opposite. I switched to a flat rate because I was having guys scheduling for an hour so I wouldn't be able to schedule anyone else and they'd only stay for like 15 mins and only expecting to pay like 20 $. So in short- I would give up 150 $ hour appointments for lowballers. If that makes sense. So I feel like 100 $ for up to an hour is more than fair. If they want an hour, its still low price and if they want half, its still right in the normal price range.And that's a very fair rate with logic behind it. Somewhat similar to the logic used by the provider I had mentioned: time equals money. Which I'm not bitter about BTW, it was just a discussion worth having.
I'm kind of the opposite. I switched to a flat rate because I was having guys scheduling for an hour so I wouldn't be able to schedule anyone else and they'd only stay for like 15 mins and only expecting to pay like 20 $. So in short- I would give up 150 $ hour appointments for lowballers. If that makes sense. So I feel like 100 $ for up to an hour is more than fair. If they want an hour, its still low price and if they want half, its still right in the normal price range.Better not be any of the guys on here pulling that nonsense! .
Throttle. Sorry I can't think of anyone on the east end. I am in OR almost to Oliver Springs so Tonya's move to Karns was good for me. Sorry dude.
SixftFourmFer
02-22-15, 18:43
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A2
Anyhow, during our exchange I was quoted price for her time. Me, being difficult as always, told her I was looking for full service and asked about a BBBJ. I was told it would be the same price (over $100) for a blowjob since I was paying for her time. Needless to say, this didn't happen and the conversation ended shortly afterward.
I know one, maybe both of us may be a little naive in our way of thinking.Yes, VERY naive, and it has NOTHING to do with the amount of money she stands to make for her time. She already has that issue resolved in her rate.
It has to do with you, if I'm reading this right, you breaking the cardinal rule. You should NEVER EVER negotiate a sex act for money.
Escorting (time / companionship for money) is legal. Prostitution (sex for money) is not.
She seems to have tried to reel you back in, re-iterating that it is TIME for money, but you didn't seem to get it.
She was gracious. I would have ended your screening right there. Not because I stood to make more money elsewhere, but because I have safer options. Which allow me to offer my hospitality without interruption.
Sorry to jump in on this conversation so late, it's just too important an issue. Particularly in the heat of winter. And no one was addressing it.
Yes, VERY naive, and it has NOTHING to do with the amount of money she stands to make for her time. She already has that issue resolved in her rate.
It has to do with you, if I'm reading this right, you breaking the cardinal rule. You should NEVER EVER negotiate a sex act for money.
Escorting (time / companionship for money) is legal. Prostitution (sex for money) is not.
She seems to have tried to reel you back in, re-iterating that it is TIME for money, but you didn't seem to get it.
She was gracious. I would have ended your screening right there. Not because I stood to make more money elsewhere, but because I have safer options. Which allow me to offer my hospitality without interruption.
Sorry to jump in on this conversation so late, it's just too important an issue. Particularly in the heat of winter. And no one was addressing it.Actually, I did get it. It was a pleasant conversation between verified provider and verified monger where a deal couldn't be made, and that's fine, I'm not bitter. We (mongers / providers) can sugar coat it all we want, but fact is the activities we're engaging in is not legal regardless of how much or how little it's discussed beforehand. That's why you screen, that's why any provider should. I may have broken a cardinal rule & I'll continue to do so as long as myself and the provider are verified, but that's irrelevant. Each of us were willing to break the law, but price / service couldn't be agreed upon. Which, therefore, in my eyes had everything to do with money. Breaking any "rule" wasn't a factor in why the deal wasn't made. I know this first hand, because I was involved in that conversation, and you weren't. I don't mean to sound combative whatsoever, but these are the facts and the points I wanted to get across.
But my question was, would it not be beneficial to have a rate for a lesser service? Obviously the provider didn't stand to make as much on me at that time, but the alternative was no money from me at that time, therefor not so beneficial. That being said, I hold nothing against this provider for that dream that never happened. In fact, once I have the free time I plan to dream with her among others. . .
I contacted a well reviewed girl recently (who shall remain nameless) and had a discussion that has stirred a debate in this country boy's head. Maybe a few mongers and providers can chime in. I have a SO, so play time is limited and if I'm going home and she is going to be there, I have to be particular about what provider I see and what I do w / them. Therefore, more often than not I try to seek out non smokers and opt for a BBBJ over full service.
Anyhow, during our exchange I was quoted price for her time. Me, being difficult as always, told her I was looking for full service and asked about a BBBJ. I was told it would be the same price (over $100) for a blowjob since I was paying for her time. Needless to say, this didn't happen and the conversation ended shortly afterward.
I know one, maybe both of us may be a little naive in our way of thinking. I realize that she could have easily made more with another client rather than seeing me at the time. But wouldn't you think it would be more beneficial to have a rate for a lesser service? I'm very interested to her a providers perspective on this, although I know from experience that several on the board are more in line with my logic.You need a room so you can have a little more control of the situation. If you had a room you could just tell them not to smoke and you could stay close to where you live and save time shower etc etc. And instead of negotiating just book a hh appointment and when the provider gets there you can let her know how you want to spend your time. If money is the issue then you should try to find a provider that does QV's or a SW. Also if you have a significant other you should probably be doing CBJ not BBBJ providers that advertise qv's or sw can be high volume just my opinion. Me personally would just call one of the DR's. Loves 2 please or Connie
You need a room so you can have a little more control of the situation. If you had a room you could just tell them not to smoke and you could stay close to where you live and save time shower etc etc. And instead of negotiating just book a hh appointment and when the provider gets there you can let her know how you want to spend your time. If money is the issue then you should try to find a provider that does QV's or a street walker. Also if you have a significant other you should probably be doing CBJ not BBBJ just my opinion.Sorry Throttle you are way off track.
You don't go into Ruth's Chris and ask for a Mcdouble cheeseburger and expect to pay Mcdonalds price for it. There are plenty of providers that advertise QV or even BJ for discounted rates and that is were you need to look. Instead your trying to negotiate a QV from a provider that doesn't want to do that. I don't know about all the girls, but for some a BBBJ is way more involved / personal / difficult then a FS visit where they lay down or take a ride and some of them even enjoy FS as to were they don't enjoy BBBJ. I don't know what you do for a living but it pisses me off when a client tries to figure out what I should make for giving up my time and my life to do what I do. I give them a price and I understand that negotiation is part of all our lives I don't expect to be bad mouthed if we can't agree. What something is worth is always about what one person is willing to pay for it and what one person is willing to sell it for. That is just economics. JMTC.
DoubleWhopper
02-24-15, 14:42
Actually, I did get it. It was a pleasant conversation between verified provider and verified monger where a deal couldn't be made, and that's fine, I'm not bitter. We (mongers / providers) can sugar coat it all we want, but fact is the activities we're engaging in is not legal regardless of how much or how little it's discussed beforehand. That's why you screen, that's why any provider should. I may have broken a cardinal rule & I'll continue to do so as long as myself and the provider are verified, but that's irrelevant. Each of us were willing to break the law, but price / service couldn't be agreed upon. Which, therefore, in my eyes had everything to do with money. Breaking any "rule" wasn't a factor in why the deal wasn't made. I know this first hand, because I was involved in that conversation, and you weren't. I don't mean to sound combative whatsoever, but these are the facts and the points I wanted to get across.
But my question was, would it not be beneficial to have a rate for a lesser service? Obviously the provider didn't stand to make as much on me at that time, but the alternative was no money from me at that time, therefor not so beneficial. That being said, I hold nothing against this provider for that dream that never happened. In fact, once I have the free time I plan to dream with her among others. . .I'm certainly no accounting whiz but even I understand this very rudimentary concept:
"50% of Something beats 100% of Nothing. ".
Sorry Throttle you are way off track.
You don't go into Ruth's Chris and ask for a Mcdouble cheeseburger and expect to pay Mcdonalds price for it. There are plenty of providers that advertise QV or even BJ for discounted rates and that is were you need to look. Instead your trying to negotiate a QV from a provider that doesn't want to do that. I don't know about all the girls, but for some a BBBJ is way more involved / personal / difficult then a FS visit where they lay down or take a ride and some of them even enjoy FS as to were they don't enjoy BBBJ. I don't know what you do for a living but it pisses me off when a client tries to figure out what I should make for giving up my time and my life to do what I do. I give them a price and I understand that negotiation is part of all our lives I don't expect to be bad mouthed if we can't agree. What something is worth is always about what one person is willing to pay for it and what one person is willing to sell it for. That is just economics. JMTC.I gave more options than just getting a room but I get it people see what they want to see. Stay in your lane we don't talking to strangers anyway.
Sorry Throttle you are way off track.
You don't go into Ruth's Chris and ask for a Mcdouble cheeseburger and expect to pay Mcdonalds price for it. There are plenty of providers that advertise QV or even BJ for discounted rates and that is were you need to look. Instead your trying to negotiate a QV from a provider that doesn't want to do that. I don't know about all the girls, but for some a BBBJ is way more involved / personal / difficult then a FS visit where they lay down or take a ride and some of them even enjoy FS as to were they don't enjoy BBBJ. I don't know what you do for a living but it pisses me off when a client tries to figure out what I should make for giving up my time and my life to do what I do. I give them a price and I understand that negotiation is part of all our lives I don't expect to be bad mouthed if we can't agree. What something is worth is always about what one person is willing to pay for it and what one person is willing to sell it for. That is just economics. JMTC.Whoa, hang on a sec. No one is bad mouthing anyone here. You've stated the obvious here, yes I did try and negotiate with a provider for a BBBJ or a QV rate. Is there any harm in that? Absolutely not. The provider didn't offer either, which is what I was later told & there was no hard feelings on either end. Money wasn't an issue, but the only service I could've gotten at that time couldn't have been FS. And if anyone is willing to pay $120 for a blowjob, then they have more money than sense.
You need a room so you can have a little more control of the situation. If you had a room you could just tell them not to smoke and you could stay close to where you live and save time shower etc etc. And instead of negotiating just book a hh appointment and when the provider gets there you can let her know how you want to spend your time. If money is the issue then you should try to find a provider that does QV's or a SW. Also if you have a significant other you should probably be doing CBJ not BBBJ providers that advertise qv's or sw can be high volume just my opinion. Me personally would just call one of the DR's. Loves 2 please or ConnieThanks for the input, you're about the only one w / actual input. Location isn't so much of an issue its time / availability between work & home. I barked up the wrong tree asking for a service that wasn't there, simple as that. She and I left the convo on good terms and plan to dream when there is more time.
And folks, there's no sense in some of the PMs I've gotten about this. I think some of you are overreacting about it, which was truly nothing. I've always treated providers with respect, and this one was no different. I actually regret bringing it up honestly.
I don't ever ask for anything other than price for time. I don't insinuate anything either. If I get an hour of time and the lady says we go to dinner. Guess what? I go to dinner at McDonald's. LOL. That keeps me out of trouble but anything else that may happen is between 2 adults. My way of looking at things. Always keep it safe.
I don't mean to sound combative whatsoever, but these are the facts and the points I wanted to get across.I did not take your response as combative. I took it as you being direct and to the point, same as my own response.
But my question was, would it not be beneficial to have a rate for a lesser service? This is what I was trying to explain to you. It is not beneficial.
However, many ladies do just that, and more power to 'them: salute:
My apologies if I was the cause of your PM woes.
Stay warm.
Noelle.
I'm certainly no accounting whiz but even I understand this very rudimentary concept:
"50% of Something beats 100% of Nothing. ".Why the assumption that those are the only two alternatives?
I did not take your response as combative. I took it as you being direct and to the point, same as my own response.
This is what I was trying to explain to you. It is not beneficial.
However, many ladies do just that, and more power to 'them: salute:
My apologies if I was the cause of your PM woes.
Stay warm.
Noelle.Nah, you didn't cause anything, at least I think not. The PM issue was guys making more out of it that it actually was like me trying to "force" her to do something she didn't want to do, being disrespectful, which neither happened. I'll take that I stride tho, I just know who I won't share info with from now on.
Thanks for the friendly debate, stay warm hun!
Well firsttime all we can say is take one for the team and report back to us. I am sure there are a few that are curious.Thats your advice? Here, hold this grenade for me? What a Blue Falcon!
Thats your advice? Here, hold this grenade for me? What a Blue Falcon!You know how it is for the newbies I got same advise my first few posts so don't be surprised. If you read the other posts he was cautioned by some so was I supposed to say the same cautious words? You can jump on me if you want AT1976 I ama big boy and can take it. I have put my time in on the site and posted my reviews and have give other advise besides TOFTT but everyone on here likes to focus on the negative so pick away at me I don't mind at all especially if it makes you feel better.
Safe times, Bezee.
You know how it is for the newbies I got same advise my first few posts so don't be surprised. If you read the other posts he was cautioned by some so was I supposed to say the same cautious words? You can jump on me if you want AT1976 I ama big boy and can take it. I have put my time in on the site and posted my reviews and have give other advise besides TOFTT but everyone on here likes to focus on the negative so pick away at me I don't mind at all especially if it makes you feel better.
Safe times, Bezee.I do know how it is for the newbies, for the most part I still am one. I have yet to hit the elusive "Senior Status". So yes I do know how it is, and my question to you, and all on this site is Why? Why is it such a teeth pulling experience to get any one to give decent advice to the "Noobs"? Why is it you feel that since it was done to you, and probably frustrated the ever loving crap out of you as well, that the behavior must be further endured? Why not be the one that puts a stop to it? Why not be the bigger man that realizes that this site is a place to safely seek the advice of the seniors so that we don't wind up in Uncle LEO's Gray Bar Inn. I thought that that was the entire purpose of this site, but apparently we are all supposed to put in our dues, and strive for senior status so we can then further perpetuate the stigmata of I am senior so I am better than you. I for one will not be doing that, so if that keeps me out off the cool kids club, so be it. But I believe in what this site was designed to do. And that is the behavior I will try to emulate, the helpful advice from one who has been in their shoes, and knows the nervous anxious pit that wells in your stomach every time you are driving to a providers in call, trying to take one for the team to show the seniors I am worthy of their time.
As for being one who states the same cautious words, is that to say if my experience did not differ, than I should not write a report? Yes, state the same cautions that every one else has, or just don't post, Is there a rule that as a senior you must post an answer?
Maybe I just woke up extremely sensitive today, and maybe I should not have even written this, I just believe in a better way. If you agree, I am glad, if not, History will repeat itself.
Austin.
I have just recently attained senior status and, I have to agree with what AT1976 has said.
It seems as tbough there are a select group of seniors who feel it's their right to shoot newbies down.
It's like they have their own pissing contest on who can be the most sarcastic. The we don't talk to strangers, take one. For the team, and all the other BS. It seems like the most fundamental thing is forgotten.
Finding a safe and reliable venue for pursuing pussy. Some egos are so damn inflated by senior status that it's ridiculous.
I will always try and steer a newbie in the right direction and, offer up any intel that can help them make a wise decision.
That's what I thought the whole point of this board is about.
IMHO.
LCMan.
Ok I will explain a little of why I said what I said. When I first got on this site I explored probably 4 previous months of posts BEFORE I asked questions of providers. I did my due diligence ahead of time and when I got the TOFTT I took it in stride. Was I right saying same message back? No I wasn't and probably only time I wasn't helpful on here. Most people on here (senior or not) look at anyone with only one post a little skeptical and fornthe most part is justifiable since "I", won't put words in anyone elses mouth, don't know who I am sending info to that could possibly endanger a provider with LEO or whatnot. To the gentleman I posted the TOFTT I do apologize for that BUT I hope he and others can understand why most won't just share info indiscriminately. I hope this doesn't keep going on with endless rebuttals and I agree the TOFTT is a cop out.
Anyway safe hobbying and if people don't want to share info don't take offense with those that don't share. I will and do share info just bejng selective and cautious.
Bezee.
BallSwinger
03-04-15, 00:33
Newbs come and go. Most are just here long enough to ask about providers, and how legit they are. Uncle LEO pulls the same BS, and there is no filtering to keep legit mongers or Uncle LEO from signing up and fishing for providers.
You guys will learn this soon enough. Take it as being douchebags all you want and share with newbs to your heart's content, but don't come crying when your ATF provider gets busted because you shared info with a new stranger that hasn't proven themselves as trustworthy.
BS.
Newbs come and go. Most are just here long enough to ask about providers, and how legit they are. Uncle LEO pulls the same BS, and there is no filtering to keep legit mongers or Uncle LEO from signing up and fishing for providers.
You guys will learn this soon enough. Take it as being douchebags all you want and share with newbs to your heart's content, but don't come crying when your ATF provider gets busted because you shared info with a new stranger that hasn't proven themselves as trustworthy.
BS.Of course there is no need to provide detailed info but a simple YMMV, she's a keeper, avoid, or even a reminder to read the reviews would suffice.
It's up to each his own what they want to reveal in open forum or pm.
Once again this is jmho.
LCMan.
Callmecrazy
03-04-15, 01:46
With BallSwinger on this one. It's all about trust and trust is earned.
I never even considered it. I mongered on the board for quite some time, but was already engaged in the hobby at the time. When I finally joined I was able to immediately add to the discussion, and seldom--if ever--publicly asked for advice or information. I tried to use common sense with respect to courtesy.
At some point I recall someone responding to, one of my posts: "if GaltGuy says it's true, I'm going to believe it. " I had NOT reached senior status to that point, but I had earned trust.
Senior status and trust re not the same thing. The more you give, the more you get--not just on these boards.
Dreamer469
03-04-15, 18:51
I never even considered it. I mongered on the board for quite some time, but was already engaged in the hobby at the time. When I finally joined I was able to immediately add to the discussion, and seldom--if ever--publicly asked for advice or information. I tried to use common sense with respect to courtesy.
At some point I recall someone responding to, one of my posts: "if GaltGuy says it's true, I'm going to believe it. " I had NOT reached senior status to that point, but I had earned trust.
Senior status and trust re not the same thing. The more you give, the more you get--not just on these boards.As stated "senior"status can mean nothing!
One of the best ways I found to build trust was to have Dream with Forum provider (s), go thru their screening!
Leave them a review & ask them to do follow up review! Other members will see your legit.
That can be good icebreaker!
D469.
I do know how it is for the newbies, for the most part I still am one. I have yet to hit the elusive "Senior Status". So yes I do know how it is, and my question to you, and all on this site is Why? Why is it such a teeth pulling experience to get any one to give decent advice to the "Noobs"? Why is it you feel that since it was done to you, and probably frustrated the ever loving crap out of you as well, that the behavior must be further endured? Why not be the one that puts a stop to it? Why not be the bigger man that realizes that this site is a place to safely seek the advice of the seniors so that we don't wind up in Uncle LEO's Gray Bar Inn. I thought that that was the entire purpose of this site, but apparently we are all supposed to put in our dues, and strive for senior status so we can then further perpetuate the stigmata of I am senior so I am better than you. I for one will not be doing that, so if that keeps me out off the cool kids club, so be it. But I believe in what this site was designed to do. And that is the behavior I will try to emulate, the helpful advice from one who has been in their shoes, and knows the nervous anxious pit that wells in your stomach every time you are driving to a providers in call, trying to take one for the team to show the seniors I am worthy of their time.
As for being one who states the same cautious words, is that to say if my experience did not differ, than I should not write a report? Yes, state the same cautions that every one else has, or just don't post, Is there a rule that as a senior you must post an answer?
Maybe I just woke up extremely sensitive today, and maybe I should not have even written this, I just believe in a better way. If you agree, I am glad, if not, History will repeat itself.
Austin.Well said my friend. Things aren't always as they seem. Just because you see a new name doesn't mean anything. Its a small circle that promote this bad attitude. It's definitely wise to be prudent but no need to be an Ahole about it.
BallSwinger
03-04-15, 21:38
As stated "senior"status can mean nothing!
One of the best ways I found to build trust was to have Dream with Forum provider (s), go thru their screening!
Leave them a review & ask them to do follow up review! Other members will see your legit.
That can be good icebreaker!
D469.Yup Yup. Senior status doesn't mean a whole lot if there isn't data behind it. Just do what you do and report back is my style. Respect is gained with being yourself and sharing info. The douchebags are pretty easily picked out and their opinion disregarded.
BS.
Yup Yup. Senior status doesn't mean a whole lot if there isn't data behind it. Just do what you do and report back is my style. Respect is gained with being yourself and sharing info. The douchebags are pretty easily picked out and their opinion disregarded.
BS.LOL some of the douchebags are labeled under status as we seen a few days ago.
Please tell how you know that.Yes I agree. That is a huge allegation to make towards someone.
Sexhoundtn2
03-06-15, 12:17
This girl s video taping your visits!FT2 If you were making an allegation like that against a girl that has such good reviews you definitely need just cause. Please tell us where you got this information.
FT2 If you were making an allegation like that against a girl that has such good reviews you definitely need just cause. Please tell us where you got this information.Did anyone ever hear anything from this guy?. If so please post or pm me. I would like to know if there is anything to this.
I've noticed a few guys catching some hell from others for not utilizing the search feature.
Normally I would certainly be on that side of the argument, except that its not actually working effectively right now.
There seems to have been a change recently that limits a search to go only 8 pages back. If you do a text search on Paris, you will see it only goes back 8 pages, and since there are a few Paris' throughout the country, you are limited to searching only back to December 2014. This is really not far back enough to get the information that many are needing.
I've noticed a few guys catching some hell from others for not utilizing the search feature.
Normally I would certainly be that side of argument, except that its not actually working effectively right now.
There seems to have been a change recently that limits a search to go only 8 pages back. If you do a text search on Paris, you will see it only goes back 8 pages, and since there are a few Paris' throughout the country, you are limited to searching only back to December 2014. This is really not far back enough to get the information that many are needing.Parameter has to be set for Knoxville posts. Seven pages when searching Paris going back to 2012. Use drop down menu on entire search page to dial in area of actual search.
I have used the search system on this site many times and it works well. But I have also found that a lot of members will tell you more about a provider via pm than they will post on the open forum. The finer details or dislikes, everyone should try to remember that before blasting away on someone asking for info be it a new member or a senior.
I've noticed a few guys catching some hell from others for not utilizing the search feature.
Normally I would certainly be on that side of the argument, except that its not actually working effectively right now.
There seems to have been a change recently that limits a search to go only 8 pages back. If you do a text search on Paris, you will see it only goes back 8 pages, and since there are a few Paris' throughout the country, you are limited to searching only back to December 2014. This is really not far back enough to get the information that many are needing.Maybe there should be a whole thread dedicated to the ins and outs of the search tool. And maybe that thread should be mandatory for new users. That might actually stop some of the questions and help out some of the newer members. Just a thought.
Parameter has to be set for Knoxville posts. Seven pages when searching Paris going back to 2012. Use drop down menu on entire search page to dial in area of actual search.You know, I had never noticed those dropdowns, I had only used the big one at the top right of the page. I'm probably not the only one.
Thanks, Papa Smirf.
I have used the search system on this site many times and it works well. But I have also found that a lot of members will tell you more about a provider via pm than they will post on the open forum. The finer details or dislikes, everyone should try to remember that before blasting away on someone asking for info be it a new member or a senior.Good point SKboy. Also, I find the search and this entire site not very user friendly.
Good point SKboy. Also, I find the search and this entire site not very user friendly.And why do I have to wait like 45 seconds in between searches. If I mistype what I am looking for, now I have to wait to correct it and search again. So annoying.
And why do I have to wait like 45 seconds in between searches. If I mistype what I am looking for, now I have to wait to correct it and search again. So annoying.Its a piss poor search system. Kinda works, sometimes, but not user friendly at all.
BallSwinger
03-22-15, 01:52
I believe that there is nothing worse than the short life of a good dog in this world. Had to put my pup of 16 yrs down today, and it's brutal. I wish no one this pain. Taking a break while I gather perspective.
You guys be safe.
BS.
I believe that there is nothing worse than the short life of a good dog in this world. Had to put my pup of 16 yrs down today, and it's brutal. I wish no one this pain. Taking a break while I gather perspective.
You guys be safe.
BS.My heart goes out to you, BS. Went through the same thing about a year ago and there's nothing harder. Take it one day at a time, man.
I believe that there is nothing worse than the short life of a good dog in this world. Had to put my pup of 16 yrs down today, and it's brutal. I wish no one this pain. Taking a break while I gather perspective.
You guys be safe.
BS.Got to agree with ya man, my lab got diagnosed with liver cancer then diabetes an was given 3-6 months before he would have to be put down, well as of may of this yr it will be going on 2 yrs now I have been taking care of him with a special diet, 2 shots a day, liver meds and over 12 grand later he's gone blind and just about wore out so since he want pass away on his own I'm about to have to make the same decision. I've got his pine box built and the hole dug and it's just about killing me also.
Defaintly has cut into my hobby funds and the urge to pursue and deal with the BS that goes along with these girls nowday. But what do you do since theirs nothing that replaces the love of a good pet and family member so I feel for you, no matter how bad a day or shitty you feel they are always their for you with tail wagging and glad to see you to put a smile on your face and make you forget all the problems. I know it sucks and breaks your heart, don't know about you but I'm done with them after this ordeal, I don't want anything to have to take care of again except myself. Only time will mend the wound! Take care and good luck.
I believe that there is nothing worse than the short life of a good dog in this world. Had to put my pup of 16 yrs down today, and it's brutal. I wish no one this pain. Taking a break while I gather perspective.
You guys be safe.
BS.My heart goes out to you. I have a good one and noticed today she is getting a little gray aroundthe muzzle.
So, I thought I had something set up again yesterday noonish. PMd, sent text. No reply. I still think I am making some sort of noobish mistake or say something I shouldn't even though I am not sure what that is. Still, some kind of reply letting me know it's not going to happen would be appreciated. Maybe something like, 'I don't trust you, you dumb noob. Get lost', or whatever gets the point across. Oh well, it wasn't a total waste. I had cash in hand and bought myself a ceiling fan for my bedroom. Now I just have to install it. If it's anything like my past projects I should have it up in 2017.
So, I thought to myself, and really only jokingly, but there should be apprenticeships. A noob / apprentice would be teamed up with a journeyman / senior member. We could start off with some classroom instruction like the theory of. And the history of. And so on. That could eventually lead to some instructor lead hands on practicals followed by student lead hands on practicals. In the end, the apprentice would know what mistakes not to make while at the same time gaining trust. Anyway, like I said, I thought of this as a joke and thought I would post something (unless of course it is an awesome idea, then it's not a joke).
Have a good week everyone.
I believe that there is nothing worse than the short life of a good dog in this world. Had to put my pup of 16 yrs down today, and it's brutal. I wish no one this pain. Taking a break while I gather perspective.
You guys be safe.
BS.I am sorry for your loss. Always tough to lose a furry friend.
I believe that there is nothing worse than the short life of a good dog in this world. Had to put my pup of 16 yrs down today, and it's brutal. I wish no one this pain. Taking a break while I gather perspective.
You guys be safe.
BS.BS, My condolences to you and yours in this time of heart ache and tragedy. All to often we are left behind by those we have loved. It is always a melancholy time, when we lose so young. I have felt your pain, and can only offer a few words, and a knowing nod. So sorry to hear about this. Reach out if you need anything. Austin.
So, I thought I had something set up again yesterday noonish. PMd, sent text. No reply. I still think I am making some sort of noobish mistake or say something I shouldn't even though I am not sure what that is. Still, some kind of reply letting me know it's not going to happen would be appreciated. Maybe something like, 'I don't trust you, you dumb noob. Get lost', or whatever gets the point across. Oh well, it wasn't a total waste. I had cash in hand and bought myself a ceiling fan for my bedroom. Now I just have to install it. If it's anything like my past projects I should have it up in 2017.
So, I thought to myself, and really only jokingly, but there should be apprenticeships. A noob / apprentice would be teamed up with a journeyman / senior member. We could start off with some classroom instruction like the theory of. And the history of. And so on. That could eventually lead to some instructor lead hands on practicals followed by student lead hands on practicals. In the end, the apprentice would know what mistakes not to make while at the same time gaining trust. Anyway, like I said, I thought of this as a joke and thought I would post something (unless of course it is an awesome idea, then it's not a joke).
Have a good week everyone.You aren't exactly dealing with the sharpest or best mannered sticks in the box. Its pretty common.
BallSwinger
03-23-15, 15:17
Thanks fellas. Your words were much appreciated.
BS.
WingShooter
03-24-15, 18:12
This is something I remember that was out there on the web. Mr Wow have a look at this. It should send you on the road to happiness.
http://onesta.missy-mariposa.com/2010/05/dos-and-donts-of-seeing-an-escort/
I am sorry for your loss. Always tough to lose a furry friend.That's how I feel every time I see a shaved kitty.
This is something I remember that was out there on the web. Mr Wow have a look at this. It should send you on the road to happiness.
http://onesta.missy-mariposa.com/2010/05/dos-and-donts-of-seeing-an-escort/I will check this out. Thanks.
My condolences BS. I am truly sorry to hear about the passing of your furry friend. Luscious Lexie.
I believe that there is nothing worse than the short life of a good dog in this world. Had to put my pup of 16 yrs down today, and it's brutal. I wish no one this pain. Taking a break while I gather perspective.
You guys be safe.
BS.
How is it that I post basically the same things that Bezee and WingShooter post, with much of the same advice, advice that Timurlame ultimately thanked them for, and it is received as "largely argumentative" and is ultimately deleted? Am I even allowed to ask this question, or is this post to be deleted as well for questioning the "admin's" all mighty power? I have seen some of the BS that Admin has allowed through, which is completely argumentative, and no issues, guess I am just not in the good ol boys club like they are. Looks like maybe there should be 2 senior status options. One for the Admin's all mighty friends, and one for the rest of us, course what am I saying, I haven't even made senior, and probably won't now that I have questioned the authority.
How is it that I post basically the same things that Bezee and WingShooter post, with much of the same advice, advice that Timurlame ultimately thanked them for, and it is received as "largely argumentative" and is ultimately deleted? Am I even allowed to ask this question, or is this post to be deleted as well for questioning the "admin's" all mighty power? I have seen some of the BS that Admin has allowed through, which is completely argumentative, and no issues, guess I am just not in the good ol boys club like they are. Looks like maybe there should be 2 senior status options. One for the Admin's all mighty friends, and one for the rest of us, course what am I saying, I haven't even made senior, and probably won't now that I have questioned the authority.Hmm. I thought I was the only one who noticed the be. S. Club. Good to see someone else Call bullshit for once.
How is it that I post basically the same things that Bezee and WingShooter post, with much of the same advice, advice that Timurlame ultimately thanked them for, and it is received as "largely argumentative" and is ultimately deleted? Am I even allowed to ask this question, or is this post to be deleted as well for questioning the "admin's" all mighty power? I have seen some of the BS that Admin has allowed through, which is completely argumentative, and no issues, guess I am just not in the good ol boys club like they are. Looks like maybe there should be 2 senior status options. One for the Admin's all mighty friends, and one for the rest of us, course what am I saying, I haven't even made senior, and probably won't now that I have questioned the authority.I have no idea why yours wasn't posted and I wish I was in the so called "good ole boys" club. I too haven't achieved the senior status myself but honestly is doesn't give you an automatic golden key to anything. I have had other seniors and trusted members share info from day one. It is all in how you ask and what you ask.
Bezee.
WingShooter
03-26-15, 05:27
How is it that I post basically the same things that Bezee and WingShooter post, with much of the same advice, advice that Timurlame ultimately thanked them for, and it is received as "largely argumentative" and is ultimately deleted? Am I even allowed to ask this question, or is this post to be deleted as well for questioning the "admin's" all mighty power? I have seen some of the BS that Admin has allowed through, which is completely argumentative, and no issues, guess I am just not in the good ol boys club like they are. Looks like maybe there should be 2 senior status options. One for the Admin's all mighty friends, and one for the rest of us, course what am I saying, I haven't even made senior, and probably won't now that I have questioned the authority.I did not realize we had a Good Ole Boys club. There is no special relationship with the Admin and me on this board. I am sure that there was something in the wording of your message or maybe
it was the wrong section that it was posted in that got it deleted. That would be something the Admin would comment on. But to clarify I do not belong to any club. This section that I am posting in here was setup for discussion.
That did not belong in any of the other sections.
How is it that I post basically the same things that Bezee and WingShooter post, with much of the same advice, advice that Timurlame ultimately thanked them for, and it is received as "largely argumentative" and is ultimately deleted? Am I even allowed to ask this question, or is this post to be deleted as well for questioning the "admin's" all mighty power? I have seen some of the BS that Admin has allowed through, which is completely argumentative, and no issues, guess I am just not in the good ol boys club like they are. Looks like maybe there should be 2 senior status options. One for the Admin's all mighty friends, and one for the rest of us, course what am I saying, I haven't even made senior, and probably won't now that I have questioned the authority.In order
1. It's one of two things, either there is a worldwide conspiracy directed at you, OR Wingshooter is a Senior Member who's posts I don't see and you're too fucking stupid to figure out how to use the "Report Post" button, and Bezee2012 said essentially the same thing while trying to be helpful not douchey. Trolls like you always want to hide behind "hey he said essentially the same thing" when you called him an idiot and he was trying to be helpful and offered advice without attacking him.
2. Obviously you're allowed to ask the question, except you're not asking a question, you're making the statement that I have favorites who are allowed to do what you claim to be doing without drawing a flag in the FORM of a question. (Kind of like on Jeopardy, they have to answer in the forum of a question when they are actually answering a question that was asked in the form of a statement)
3. Again, you're obviously too stupid to use the Report Post button, and would prefer to troll.
4. Oh, you'll be a Senior someday, what you will never be is unmoderated. What I don't understand is, if you dislike the forum so much why do you continue to use it? I don't think you're here for the pussy. You pay nothing for this and can take whatever info you wish from it. Instead of being grateful you're complaining, and not in a constructive way. You're like one of those assholes who gets invited to a Superbowl party then complains about the free food not being hot enough and free beer being the wrong kind and not cold enough.
All this applies to that other idiot RollOneUp I've banned you for being a dick so many times that I've lost count of the number of users you have had. You're another one that's not here for the pussy.
Hope this helps,
A2
How is it that I post basically the same things that Bezee and WingShooter post, with much of the same advice, advice that Timurlame ultimately thanked them for, and it is received as "largely argumentative" and is ultimately deleted? Am I even allowed to ask this question, or is this post to be deleted as well for questioning the "admin's" all mighty power? I have seen some of the BS that Admin has allowed through, which is completely argumentative, and no issues, guess I am just not in the good ol boys club like they are. Looks like maybe there should be 2 senior status options. One for the Admin's all mighty friends, and one for the rest of us, course what am I saying, I haven't even made senior, and probably won't now that I have questioned the authority.I don't know how others feel, but when I am using someone else's Bulletin Board System of any kind, that is free to use, I kind of have the idea that whoever owns or manages the systems is free to do anything they wish with it. I just appreciate the fact that it is available for looking up and sharing data. Now if we were PAYING a fee for this service, then there might be some argument that as paying members we were owed some rights in return. But when its free, we are not entitled to anything. Use it or don't use it. No right to ***** about how it is operated included.
Its A2 sandbox and we are playing in for free. Enough said!
In order
1. It's one of two things, either there is a worldwide conspiracy directed at you, OR Wingshooter is a Senior Member who's posts I don't see and you're too fucking stupid to figure out how to use the "Report Post" button, and Bezee2012 said essentially the same thing while trying to be helpful not douchey. Trolls like you always want to hide behind "hey he said essentially the same thing" when you called him an idiot and he was trying to be helpful and offered advice without attacking him.
2. Obviously you're allowed to ask the question, except you're not asking a question, you're making the statement that I have favorites who are allowed to do what you claim to be doing without drawing a flag in the FORM of a question. (Kind of like on Jeopardy, they have to answer in the forum of a question when they are actually answering a question that was asked in the form of a statement)
3. Again, you're obviously too stupid to use the Report Post button, and would prefer to troll.
4. Oh, you'll be a Senior someday, what you will never be is unmoderated. What I don't understand is, if you dislike the forum so much why do you continue to use it? I don't think you're here for the pussy. You pay nothing for this and can take whatever info you wish from it. Instead of being grateful you're complaining, and not in a constructive way. You're like one of those assholes who gets invited to a Superbowl party then complains about the free food not being hot enough and free beer being the wrong kind and not cold enough.
All this applies to that other idiot RollOneUp I've banned you for being a dick so many times that I've lost count of the number of users you have had. You're another one that's not here for the pussy.
Hope this helps,
A2A2.
To reply, I would like to clear a few things up:
1. There is no conspiracy against me, I understand that, I never stated that, and honestly never meant to imply that I believed that. Not sure exactly why I would have reported Timurlame's post as it was an honest question. I just perceived it as strange that post #1 was Give me details. I was trying to show him in my post, how his post was received. Nothing more. I intended it to be a helpful post and not douchey. I apologize if that is how my post was received. For the record, I did not call anyone an idiot. I was truly trying to post helpful advise without attacking.
2. A2, I apologize for the Question post. That was douchey now matter how you looked at it. I am sorry if my post offended you. Guess I just woke up on the douchey, bitchy side of the bed that day.
3. Not much to be said here as this is all about personally attacking me, rather than my post. I apologize if my post somehow hurt your feelings or offended you.
4. Not much to be said here either.
In closing, lets put this to bed. Lets get back to the hobby, and away from the drama. To Wingman and Bezee, I apologize for insinuating that you were in some special club, It was wrong of me. A2, I am sorry if I have offended you or your status in anyway, and I appreciate the forum that has been built for us to use. To Timurlame, I apologize for any unintended attack on you or your comments. To all I wish you the best in your endeavors. Again Apologies all around. Stay Safe. Happy Hobbying.
I don't know how others feel, but when I am using someone else's Bulletin Board System of any kind, that is free to use, I kind of have the idea that whoever owns or manages the systems is free to do anything they wish with it. I just appreciate the fact that it is available for looking up and sharing data. Now if we were PAYING a fee for this service, then there might be some argument that as paying members we were owed some rights in return. But when its free, we are not entitled to anything. Use it or don't use it. No right to ***** about how it is operated included.My apologies, and agreed. Very well stated.
Its A2 sandbox and we are playing in for free. Enough said!Agreed, Sorry for Shitting in the sandbox. I apologize.
Member #5090
03-26-15, 11:21
Anyone else want some popcorn while we watch this unfold?
The Hobby is all about having fun. Celebrating a 25th date anniversary starting today.
No popcorn for me, just fun.
A2.
To reply, I would like to clear a few things up:
1. There is no conspiracy against me, I understand that, I never stated that, and honestly never meant to imply that I believed that. Not sure exactly why I would have reported Timurlame's post as it was an honest question. I just perceived it as strange that post #1 was Give me details. I was trying to show him in my post, how his post was received. Nothing more. I intended it to be a helpful post and not douchey. I apologize if that is how my post was received. For the record, I did not call anyone an idiot. I was truly trying to post helpful advise without attacking.
2. A2, I apologize for the Question post. That was douchey now matter how you looked at it. I am sorry if my post offended you. Guess I just woke up on the douchey, bitchy side of the bed that day.
3. Not much to be said here as this is all about personally attacking me, rather than my post. I apologize if my post somehow hurt your feelings or offended you.
4. Not much to be said here either.
In closing, lets put this to bed. Lets get back to the hobby, and away from the drama. To Wingman and Bezee, I apologize for insinuating that you were in some special club, It was wrong of me. A2, I am sorry if I have offended you or your status in anyway, and I appreciate the forum that has been built for us to use. To Timurlame, I apologize for any unintended attack on you or your comments. To all I wish you the best in your endeavors. Again Apologies all around. Stay Safe. Happy Hobbying.Points one and two, cool, thanks apology accepted.
3. You said.
I have seen some of the BS that Admin has allowed through, which is completely argumentative, and no issues, guess I am just not in the good ol boys club like they are. Looks like maybe there should be 2 senior status options.And I'm the one making the personal attack?
To be clear, I wasn't attacking you, just as I wasn't hurt nor offended by what you said, though that is an interesting gambit on your part in this exchange. Saying somebody has been hurt or offended is a clever ploy to color their response as emotional and therefore not valid or logical. In order to be hurt or offended by somebody they have to mean something to me. While I really do have the warmest of feelings for our membership collectively, you guys are fucking awesome! Individually I only know a couple of them. Statistically speaking a certain percentage of our guys die every year, I don't shed any tears. I don't know you, I'm never going to know you, you can't hurt me nor offend me. I'm aware of the fact that I quite possibly have the single most ridiculous job that anybody in the history of employment has ever had. I have no delusions of power, quite the opposite in fact, I moderate a pussy forum. That I'm so well paid for it defies belief.
Since we are being clear, what I was doing in numbers 1, 3, and 4 was demonstrating my abject contempt for you and all the guys like you that like to shit on this forum and take it for granted.
Hopefully that is clear enough.
A2.
BallSwinger
03-26-15, 20:15
. I'm aware of the fact that I quite possibly have the single most ridiculous job that anybody in the history of employment has ever had.
A2.I chuckled. That is all.
BS.
I chuckled. That is all.
BS.What do you do for a living?
I stop guys from fighting about hookers.
BallSwinger
03-26-15, 22:15
What do you do for a living?
I stop guys from fighting about hookers.I work in the woods and avoid people as much as possible.
BS.
I work in the woods and avoid people as much as possible.
BS.Want to trade? (I get my inside job back for winter though).
BallSwinger
03-27-15, 01:51
Want to trade? (I get my inside job back for winter though).Not seeing another human for days is a wonderful thing. Just think about how nice it is when it's crazy hot or cold outside and you're sitting in an office at 68*, some of us other slobs are out in it. Embrace the pros, ignore the cons. :D I wouldn't last a day doing your gig.
BS.
Not seeing another human for days is a wonderful thing. Just think about how nice it is when it's crazy hot or cold outside and you're sitting in an office at 68*, some of us other slobs are out in it. Embrace the pros, ignore the cons. :D I wouldn't last a day doing your gig.
BS.One of the best parts of my ridiculous job is my "office" is in my house. This forum doesn't make anywhere near the money it would take to have actual offices. Jackson practically invented "work from home. ".
The view from the window is kicking though.
371414
As a matter of fact the view into the bedroom isn't bad either, say hello to my little friends.
371415
ThermoNuclear
03-27-15, 09:16
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I'm aware of the fact that I quite possibly have the single most ridiculous job that anybody in the history of employment has ever had. I have no delusions of power, quite the opposite in fact, I moderate a pussy forum. That I'm so well paid for it defies belief.
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You, sir, are living the dream. Especially with your little friends! Now I'm off to my bullshit day on the hamster wheel. Cheers.
Damn A2, your friends make my teeth sweat!
LexintonLuther
03-27-15, 11:55
One of the best parts of my ridiculous job is my "office" is in my house. This forum doesn't make anywhere near the money it would take to have actual offices. Jackson practically invented "work from home. ".
The view from the window is kicking though.
371414
As a matter of fact the view into the bedroom isn't bad either, say hello to my little friends.
371415A2 the views are awesome!
Lex.
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