2000-2004 General Reports

[Adventurous1]

Member1107/CKramer- Thanks for the updates. It's good to see that for the most part the situation is still the same or similar. I have seen by far the most awesome selections of women available ever at times on Waikiki streets. As for the new LE rookies, perhaps an employee discount program might work? ;-)

[C Kramer]

This is slightly off-topic, but tonight I was curious at what what going on west of Hawaii, so I checked out these WSG forums under Asia/Thailand and Philippines and I found it quite mind-blowing. I know I read something from another fellow monger raving earlier, but some of the stuff I was reading was WILD! I've been to Bangkok a couple of times before, but there were so many things I missed.

Seems as though hj and bj bars are very common there costing about 400-600 thai baht for a bbbj (including the beer). This works out to about $10-15! You just sit at the counter and get serviced. Of course, everything else is wide open and I've read you should expect to spend on the average of 500b to take the girl out of the bar and another 1500b to have her until the morning. 2000b is about $50. Airfare is about $500 r/t and a pretty nice hotel will run you a whopping $25-30/night.

What the f_ck guys? Time to take some vacation time to "attend a convention" in Bangkok or Manila. Las Vegas is looking less attractive now.

[AsiaTraveler2]

C Kramer;

I agree. Would definitely recommend to anyone .. visit Bangkok or the Phillipines. I also have experienced Macau off Hong Kong, and would also recommend that as well, and you get to check out Hong Kong. I have been to all 3 many times, and it beats everything else I have experienced. Las Vegas does not hold a candle to what you can experience in Asia. It's the same experiences you might have at our local MP's with better service and more options (at least 100 girls for every guy) with cost about $20-$50 total, including tips + "take-out" options!

AT2

[Member #1062]

Maikiki Asian,

For most of the relaxation centers, they ask for the $50 house fee as they lead you to the room. Then the girls come in one at a time. If you don't like what you see, tell her no and the next one will come in. If you don't like any of them, walk out and ask the mama-san for your $$ back. I've never had a problem.

The exception to this is New Yorker which usually has a handful of hotties sitting in the reception room right as you come in. Look around and smile and pick one you like that flashes a big smile back to you.

For massage with extras, another option is Young Massage on Keeaumoku. Its on the second floor opposite McDonalds or thereabouts. Service is so-so.

As for points further east, Thailand is my favorite. Do a google search on thai night life and you'll find some boards like this one with more specific info. BKK girls will spoil you for life. Its a little piece of heaven on earth.

[RPdude]

Aloha,

I am visiting Honolulu from Northern Cali, and had a great experience tonight.

I went to 'New Yorker', and lets just say, WHOA BABY.

I saw this beautiful girl named Julie, and I will not go into details, but lets just say, my experience was amazing. Thanks for the posts that lead me there.

Looks - 10
Attitude - 10
Body - 10
Service - 11

Visit was a 10+, I would say my best experience ever.

Take it easy guys.

-RPD

[Kokaroach]

My 2 cents,

Thailand overall is way better than PI. PI does have casinos though so you can get your Vegas fix taken care of too. Although Thailand is considering getting casinos too, but who knows when that happens.

Good luck!

[Asianlover4u]

SUNDEVILRN,

I wanted to find out if there are a lot of SW's on Kapahulu Avenue? Are there any asians?

[Huge Erection]

Is New Yorker open 24/7?

[Qjkl]

New Yorker is open 24/7, but if you go from 5AM-10AM all the girls will probably be asleep and when mamasan wakes one up, she'll probably be wearing no make up and be in a bad mood. But you can get service.

[Lip Licker]

I have never seem SW on Kapahulu ave. I have read some reports mentioning that the SW's are moving to the outlying areas of Waikiki due to more LE action against them in Waikiki and Downtown.

I notice that there were never many asian SW's in waikiki. I have seen a few now and then. There was a tall one with a great body but wouldn't do doggie and didn't provide all that great service. She was actually my first back in 95 and she was really tight(I think I had her shortly after she started "working"). There was also an older(28-30's) asian SW who I haven't seen since 2000. She used to hang around in the side-streets and would often wear business clothes. She didn't have that great of a body but was really nice. There was also the occasional asian SW that was really hot but most of them are caucasian. I also see that there are fewer BSW's in Waikiki. The quality has definitely gone up over the past few years and it seems the age range is getting younger ;)

Please let us know if there are any experiences with SW's on Kapahulu. That would probably be much easier to pick them up without getting busted by LE and would be nice for a change.

SSSF!

-Ry

[R Nixon]

Has anyone tried Nikki Loo or Lara from Thatmall.com? Both look interesting just wondering if anyone has any experiences they would like to share.

Nix

[Kokaroach]

Checked out Misty I this past weekend. More of the same. Bargain basement stuff can be had in the back area. You get what you pay for, there is a reason they keep that place dark, LOL. One of the girls did make us some good stir fry though.

Goodluck.

[Kimchi]

I have visited Rainbow 7 off Ward Ave. and I was very pleased with the service. I think the girls here are better looking than at New York. I had a girl by the name of Choi (Yoyo and Coco also names) and she was a knock out. She has a body that is hot!! She loves to give asian and is good at it. I felt at home with Choi as if she was my girl (at least for 1 hour). She treats you right and I don't think you can go wrong visiting this place. They give you a discount if you ask (10% but works out to $10). Business is slow but the girls are hot. They get in a few new ones monthly. Be good to this place and I think that you will see it is worth the trip.

[Paco Love]

I was just downtown on some business and happened to be driving down a'ala street and saw a SW. I couldn't believe my eyes - it was in the middle of the day! She even waved at me. I had to drive around the block just to be sure. She was pretty huge and might have even been a TS. Can't really be sure when they're too fat.

And while driving down kukui towards longs I saw another one! This one had a nice rack and was wearing the shortest skirt I ever saw. Her ass was practically hannging out. I had to drive around the block to check her out again and saw her getting into a truck. I'd say face=6, body=8.

I never saw anyone working during the day before. Anyone else see anything down there during the day?

[Sun Devil]

Sorry Asian 975, didn't know that somebody wanted information on the SW scene in Waikiki. I did see one Asian street worker on Kapahulu, fairly attractive too, but I think their market is geared towards Japanese tourists staying at the hotels on Waikiki. Probably lucrative too considering that these guys save a lot of money to go on their Hawaiian vacation. I heard her talk to this guy in Japanese to arrange their date. However, most of your SWs over there tend to be haolis.

[GuyinHawaii]

Are you sure about Kapahulu? You're not thinking about Kuhio are you? Where on Kapahulu did you see her?

[Kimchi]

What do you think of Coco from Rainbow 7? I think she has one of the hotest bodies I have ever seen with an AMP. She loves given asian and gives an excellent massage. I don't know how long she is going to stay here but you need to go visit her. She is hot.

[Sun Devil]

Sorry mate, I meant Kuhio Avenue, not Kapahulu. All these streets sound alike for a non-Hawaii guy. Especially with the fact that they all start with the letter K.

You'll see some SW hang out at the Denny's on Kuhio. Also, I saw some working girls on Kalakaua. I picked one up and rode with on a taxi to a building somewhere west of Waikiki. She apparently knew the taxi driver since they talked like they were long lost friends in the car. We arrived at the place and they had rooms with curtains for privacy. There was a mattress on the floor inside the closet-like-room. Inside the lobby of this place, there were black and white pictures of the working girls of this incall agency. Nice set up, since one doesn't need to pay for hotel fees.

[Sandog]

Kimchi,

Great report But can you provide more info in cost. How much for 1 hour service and does it come with the table show (something that I like) and what portion for the lady.

Thanks for your info.

San Dog

[LBC Dweller]

Paco,

Although I moved away about a year ago, I remember A'ala well...you can find action during the day between the hours when the kiddies are in school (there is a Japanese school in the area). HPD allows them to hang out between 9 and 2 - I used to see two to three girls down there.

The challenge is where to take them - there are several parking structures in the area - which can work out OK if you are careful -

I rather doubt you saw a mahu out during the day - they are in the area early in the morning but are usually gone by 6:30 am.

Aloha

[C Kramer]

There was a cutie out tonight in back of Long's in the Vineyard area wearing a skimpy two-piece outfit with her bottoms having the word "Sexy" on it. Does anybody have the scoop on her? I saw her around 1:30am, but only was doing window shopping until payday.

[Kimchi]

The standard house fee is $50.00, but give the 10% ($10.00) discount if you say you are going next door. You ask the girl the price and she may or may not negotiate the price. Great table shower with cleaning all the right spots, with nice teasing. Gets your attention if you know which head I'm talking about. Back in the room you just let things work out. All the girls are hot so you can just take whom ever is available. Coco in my book is the best but she also is the most asked for. Girls change all the time with like I said all hot.

Good luck, you can't go wrong at Rainbow 7.

350 Ward Ave. #200. 591-9180.

[Busy Boy]

Tried "Sexy" before. Body was good, service was poor, but cost was reasonable. Worth one round.

[Tsboy69]

San,

Read the past several pages and 'viola', your questions will all be answered..

best of luck

[Member #1062]

Thanks for the info on Rainbow, Kimchi. Not all of these places offer a body shampoo or table shower. Whatever you call it, I like the extra attention and tease.

Club New Casino was FULL of new young hotties the other night. A group of Japanese came in and a lot of them were called into the private room by the mamasan. Luckily my fave was not among them. Too bad I wasn't a part of the Japanese group. Next time I will make sure to check out the eye candy more closely before moving to a booth. They were hot, very hot.

I also recently visited Cache for service and she asked me for $80 - for a HJ ?!? Forget it. I moved on to King's massage. It was a slow night there and both girls (four hands) came in at the end for a slow delightful finish. Yes, I know they are not that young or cute, but it beats a quick and dirty at Cache for almost the same price.

[Kimchi]

I was wondering has any one taken any photo's of any of the providers in the area? I wish that these girls would let us take their photo. It would make it easier to chose. I understand why they may not as they do not want friends or locals to know what they do for a living. It is not something to be proud of and Koreans are proud people. Well good luck in the hobby and keep us all informed of which places are hot and which are not.

[Hapaman]

Recently went on a trip to Hawaii. My findings:

MP - Clearly, New Yorker has the best looking girls. Can't go wrong with any of them. But, it's always packed at nights and you may need to wait for a room. Avoid NY during prime time on Friday nights. Also visited Pine Tree on Keeaumoku. Saw a Korean girl named Sarah. Great BBBJ and covered FS. Not as rushed as NY. Also visited VIP. Quality not great. Saw a Thai girl Maya. Very nice natural breasts but service was so-so.

Waikiki SW scene: The quality has gone down drastically since my last trip. On previous trips, saw a Hispanic babe Gina, tall, very fit, huge fake boobs; Toby, a blonde , with huge fake boobs although she was a little chunky; Meka, a Korean with nice natural boobs (although very hurried on service); Carmen a part-black, part-Latina looking beauty, also with huge fake boobs. On this trip, none of them were around. Where did they all go?

Drove downtown near Longs as mentioned a lot here. Did not see anything there worth dating. Stopped to talk to a tall slender Hawaiian. After talking for a few seconds, I came to the conclusion that she's a he, so I passed and went back to Waikiki.

Hopefully, all the girls will be back in Waikiki for my next trip.

[Looking411]

I went to Cache the other night. Didn't have much time so just drank a beer at the bar. Looks like the same girls there. I have sat with Mina before. Just wondering if any of the regulars can fill me in on the other girls and what services they provide for what cost.

Thanks.

[Lip Licker]

I have seen a few mahu SW's hanging around during the day. They were closer to the canal area along with a few homeless. I don't think it was a school day, I believe it was a sunday.

SSSF!

-Ry

[Junior Boy]

Hey hapaman,

I agree with you on Sarah. I posted back in August about her and she is one of the best. I just visited Pinetree yesterday but she was on vacation until 10/30, so I saw Jenny. Fake lumpy boobs and so so service. Only positive was the table shampoo.

Club Sun use to be a good hj and bbbj place but the new girls are not too quick about going in the back booths. I will keep trying.

Back of Long's has been a pretty much a hit and miss lately. I saw the pimp with the convertable talking the one of the girls and I think most of the new one are from Waikiki. Maybe the business is slow there.

Has anyone tried the girls from velvetropeprod? I want to try Jae, she looks hot. Any info will be appreciated.

Good hunting guys, be safe.

[John Quakman]

Checked out the action at The Cache thanks to the info on this board. Appears to be a Vietnamese place. Sure enough Mina makes my aquaintaince right away. Off to the dark booth for some gropeing and such. Coundn't find the lotion bottle.

Mina is Amerasian and moved to the US when She was 17. Lived in N. Dakota untill 2 years ago. Speaks good English and has a great body, enhanced but real soft. Her front teeth are crooked but kinda sexy when she smiles. All action is covered and all can be had for 1.5$

Her friend Mailie is also very nice but I haven't been able to get away from Mina when I go in cause I'm "hers"

There are two or thre other girls there. One is a very petite thing which turns my crank but Mina says she is expensive. Another is also petitte and has a nice bubble butt but I don't know anything about her.

Mina assures me that all the girls are friendly.

[Paco Love]

Hey Junior Boy,

Wondering where Club Sun is? As for Jae - I don't think she is at velvet rope anymore. There is a delphi forum moderated by Natasha with info on velvet rope.

[Hapaman]

Junior Boy,

Yes, Sarah is the best. Too bad she was on vacation when you stopped by. I would be big time bummed if I visited and she wasn't there.

Forgot to post that I also visited China Spa which is in the same building as Pine Tree. Nothing spectacular. Service was so-so.

Also, stopped by Club New Office. Lots of nice looking girls but the place was packed with locals and no place to sit.

Where is Club Sun? It's that a strip club? Perhaps I should visit on my next trip.

[JFX]

[New Yorker]

Ad-clipping for local bruddahs or in-bound vacation / action-seekers.

Cheers,

JFX

[JFX]

[Various]

Ad-clipping for local bruddahs or in-bound vacation / action-seekers.

Cheers,

JFX

[JFX]

[Sun Spa]

Ad-clipping for local bruddahs or in-bound vacation / action-seekers.

Cheers,

JFX

[JFX]

[Various]

Ad-clipping for local bruddahs or in-bound vacation / action-seekers.

Cheers,

JFX

[JFX]

[Manhattan - Grand Opening]

Ad-clipping for local bruddahs or in-bound vacation / action-seekers.

Cheers,

JFX

[JFX]

[China Spa]

Ad-clipping for local bruddahs or in-bound vacation / action-seekers.

Cheers,

JFX

[JFX]

[V.I.P.]

Ad-clipping for local bruddahs or in-bound vacation / action-seekers.

Cheers,

JFX

[JFX]

[Pine Tree]

Ad-clipping for local bruddahs or in-bound vacation / action-seekers.

Cheers,

JFX

[VipHawaii]

I just want to let you know of this unique spa. It's called "Smile Spa", and it's located in Ililani st. near Napa Auto parts in ward. And, it's like not other place I've ever been in hawaii.

This smile spa is a combination of: karaoke, korean bar, sauna, jacuzzi, and room with bed. For an entrance fee of $50, you can use all of its facilities for 3 hours PLUS you can free pupus and FREE beer!

But, this is not an AMP at all; in fact, they are open to couples coming in. So, the closest thing Smile Spa is similar to is a Japanese love hotel.

Although there are some women who work there, they are primarily there to serve food and drinks; typical Korean hostesses.

I think this is a great find for those who:

1) Are married and have a side thing going. you can treat this place as a 3-hour $50 hotel stay with full amenities.

2) Are meeting someone in Kuhio drive and want to do the deads in a nice facilities rather than inside your car.

3) Live in the dorms and want to do your GF without your roomate around.

Think about it. $50 is how much you pay for any of those AMP places, but this smile spa has much better facilities (it has a jacuzzi for christ sakes!). All you have to do is supply your own GF, and you can have a very memorable time.

I think this love hotel thing will take off.

[Kokaroach]

I called the dungeon recently and they quoted me $250. Higher than the going rate. I've been there before a while back and had a good time, but it was 175 at the time.

What is the name of the delphi forum for velvetrope info?

Went to Tropical Touch - massage and release. Don't go not worth it.

Went to new yorker last night around 0200, was crowded and my regular wasn't there so I passed.

Good luck

[Junior Boy]

Thanks for the info on Velvet rope. I'm not too sure how to find delphi forum but I'll check google.

The club sun is on Cummins St., the industrial area between Ala moana shopping center and Ward ave. Not too far from the other spots. Yes, it is a strip club.

I picked up a girl named Jayda behind Long's for the second time in about 2 months. She's got a nice face and a decent half half for one bill. Everything was covered and not rushed. over all a 7 experience.

Thanks to all of your info.

Be safe.

[Asianlover4u]

Has anyone tried the Manhattan?

Tried New Yorker so far it is the best I have been to.

[Paco Love]

Ok - I know which one Club Sun is. How are the girls there?

What time does Jadya work? Anymore details on her looks/body? Might be cruising down there soon.

[Member #1062]

I could definitely make use of Smile Spa's facilities.

Could we get some more info please like...

Can you reserve a room in advance?

Do the rooms have a shower?

Is it clean?

How about a phone number?

If you don't show up with a girl, can you snag one of the girls that work there?

Thanks!

[Crazy Jim Wood]

Keeaumoku Pleasure Complex: 835 Keeaumoku and Young Massage (919 Keeaumoku):

I thought I would share with you a story I heard from a friend:

He told me about the Keeaumoku Pleasure Complex; a collection of strip clubs, porn shops and massage parlors all within the same complex of side streets and parking areas to the east of Keeaumoku between 825 Keeaumoku (Centerfold’s Crystal Palace) and Young Massage (919 Keeaumoku).

After amusing himself with the fine dancing at Centerfold’s, my friend investigated a few of the other establishments in the complex.

Young Massage is on the second floor of 919. The parking and stairs are to the rear of the building. The secluded parking is a big plus. Girls and management may change but location, location, location.

Of course the establishments offer only therapeutic massage (the Korean girl’s room was equipped with ceiling bars and the Japanese girl’s room had an in room sauna) so I am sure that all of my friend’s talk about additional service are lies, but his lies make for an interesting tale.

He reported that after a very personal and fastidious assisted table shampoo from the petite attendant of Japanese extraction named Ang** or Ang*** or something to that effect, whose robe carelessly fell open during the procedure, he was offered a relaxing soft massage and then asked if any other service was required. Although he asked for a HJ, the girl just kept massaging and rubbing her naked body all over him kissing his neck and ears until, when she asked a second time if he was sure he didn’t have enough for FS, he had no choice but to acquiesce. After an unusually long and languorous session with animate participation on her part they both fell asleep (!) and woke up at the knock from the irate mama-san an hour later. After leaving once he had to run back to the room to pay since they both forgot (!).

During a second visit the session with Angie progressed much as before, including falling asleep (!) and forgetting about payment (!). Makes you wonder who was servicing who…
The third time Ang** was gone so he went with a somewhat plumper and chestier girl of Korean extraction in faux leather get up. After the assisted shower he asked again for topless HJ which was performed well albeit with a certain attentive aloofness that was somehow titillating even if not as affectionate as Angie. The Korean girl’s room was still under construction with naked sheet rock walls, a mattress on the floor and bars on the ceiling which lent the whole place an austere, industrial atmosphere which may have matched her faux leather apparel and clinical performance but there was no doubt in my friend’s mind that Angie’s room definitely had better accouterments.

He recommended holding out for Angie and the nice room, but if all you want is topless HJ the faux leather outfit has its merits (since Ang** apears adverse to the HJ) performance and attitude for either was acceptable.

835 Keeaumoku:

My friend said that this was a rather unusual set up. He followed the neon sign into the parking garage beneath Crystal Palace on foot. Good thing he did not drive, because he was suddenly in what appeared to be a living room parlor, or, at least there was carpeting on the underground garage floor and fish tanks on the walls and a bevy of Korean women sitting on floral print sofas.

So, you probably want to park behind 919 and walk down…

Although my friend had images in his head of what would happen should a squad car pulling in with lights flashing, it was too late to exit. A youngish (oldish with youngish haircut on closer inspection, but possessing a petite body and nice breasts) Asian attendant led him back to the bathroom for assisted shower. It turns out he got the only Taiwanese masseuse in this largely Korean establishment. They headed back to the room where she regaled him with tales of Chinese history (!). Even though he managed to somehow focus on the lame massage which every now and then became sensual then lapsed back to lame as she talked about the Boxer Rebellion or Generalissimo Chiang Kai-shek, the masseuse took repeated breaks where she was absent from the room for long periods (perhaps reviewing her lecture notes). Finally just when he started to wonder when the ordeal would end, she returned and asked if he wanted FS (no other service offered). At this point he really did not want it, but relented in order to avoid enduring another history lesson.

My friend could hardly recommend the establishment based on this experience, but, should you want to check for yourself, go for the Koreans.

He also mentioned seeing China Massage on the second floor while looking for parking , but after the experiences at 835 had had enough Chinese for a while.

I’m sure he was lying about the extra service, but according to him rates were .5 for the massage, .5, 7.5, 1.5 for extras depending on service at both establishments.

Jimbo

[Crazy Jim Wood]

I have this friend who really gets around, always lying about extra service, now he tells me about his experiences at Oriental Relaxation, on McCully right across the bridge going towards Kapiolani.

Oriental has some frontage on the Kapiolani side, next to an Indian curry place, but the entrance is in the back next to an optometrist. Parking is relatively secluded, although right in front of anyone waiting to turn left from McCully on to Kapiolani. Never know who might be driving by... just tell them you had an eye appointment at the optometrist right next to the curry place. Hey! Another hidden bonus to daily use contacts.

Anyway, he rings the bell at the iron gate. She asks "Have you been here before?" "Who'd you see?" "Monica Lewinsky." "Oh she not here anymore, but come on in I take care of you..."

.5 door fee. No assisted shower. Attendants often middle aged but cute enough and change over is fairly frequent. Service is always dependable. He says try not to go to often, since once they recognize you the honeymoon is over and the massage and dancing-fingers-on-buttocks foreplay disappears. Extras .5 to 1.5, .5 gets nude HJ with sucking of breasts possibly more depending on the attendant.

Oriental’s strong point is close vicinity to Waikiki club scene (8 minute walk from Scruples) good if you are to drunk to drive but are wearing a decent set of beer goggles at which time FS becomes an option.

His last attendant was not cute, somewhat tall and over weight (definitely not the usual for Oriental). He went one night and it was only her, then it was only her the next night but he was to tired and to drunk to go elsewhere but to blue-balled to go home so he relented. She gave a body-wracking massage. She seemed miffed when my friend asked for HJ (no, no need to take off the top) She complained about no customers and she wanted FS to make it worth her time but she did the deed rather vigorously with prostrate massage (fortunately her fingers weren’t fat) refusing all pleas for mercy until mission complete.

He recommends it based on location and dependable service (always the option of HJ if the attendant doesn’t meet the standard)

Jimbo

[Crazy Jim Wood]

King Massage:

My lying friend went to King Massage the other day. It is located on the 2nd floor of Puck’s alley, next to a karate dojo. Parking on 2nd floor to, very convenient. Pay parking but King Massage will provide voucher. Cheapo Books is on the first floor so if you have to wait a half hour there’s something to do.

Door fee .5. No assisted shower :-<.

He said that the first time the younger one of the two masseuses (nice personality, middle aged but nice) let him in and took him to the room, left and came back and dimmed the light but something seemd wrong and he looked at her clsoer and aargh she had aged about 20 years. Well, better than seeing her sprouting wood at least. Look out for the bait and switch. He asked for the first girl and after the “but its just a massage girl shouldn’t matter” spiel she went and got the first girl. Good thing to, because it was an excellent massage, using elbows and forearms, very thorough, it was almost worth it for the massage alone. The ass tickling went on for a long time to, which is always nice. Then she gave a very slow, lingering release. Only set him back another .6, no discussion beforehand about price, but when asked she said typical tip is .5-.6.

Second time he went they were busy so he went to Moonlight. Rather dilapidated establishment with crummy mattress in room heavy with the ordure of mould. Seemed to him like a sure thing, but the masseuse kept going on asking suspicious questions and after a lame massage with some cheesy hand lotion (not even baby oil) the masseuse signaled time was up. Seemed like they give out extras for sure but he must have sent her the wrong vibe. Then she had the nerve to ask for tip.

Third tome the younger one welcomed then they tried the bait and switch again. This time he was told it would be a long wait so he took a nap since Moonlight was out of the question. It must have been a dream because the two of them came in after 45 minutes and took him to another room and began the massage. They told him that due to the wait he would get two for the price of one. The younger one’s technique was certainly much better, but the two of them together were even better yet. They didn’t skimp on anything, giving good long massage good long ass tickling and good long manual then refused extra tip saying “no keep your lunch money” or something like that, so when he woke up he knew it was a dream because he only got set back another .6.

Jimbo

[AsiaTraveler2]

Crazy Jim;

Actually sounds like you visited the places .. not a "friend", but that's not important. Most of the places you mentioned, however, do offer extra services but are the most cautious of the AMP's on the island. Very paranoid (Moonlight, Young, King etc) and usually woman in their 30's and 40's. Oriental's a notch up, but still just ok in my book. They all, in general, are also very mediocre at best .. older woman and very poor extra's. Can't recommend any of them. The best of the lot, is the one you missed .. China Spa. It's not Chinese owned .. just a name. The strip club Centerfolds, is just one of the worst that I have seen on this island. Much better to go to Femme Nu or Rockza in my opinion. Just my two cents.

AT2

[DaKine]

Has anyone tried Star at "AAA Aromatic Massage"?

Thanks

[Member #1062]

Crazy Jim -

I would like to ask that you limit your posts to your own experiences.

Second-hand reports from a "lying friend" have no real value.

Thanks.

[Junior Boy]

Tried King's twice but did not get any extras. The second time I asked for it by pointing at my member but she said they don't do that. Well, there are plenty others out there.

I think I will swing by Long's tonight. If I don't see anything good I will head to Cache.

Paco, sorry for the delay in reply. The quality of dancers at Sun is mixed. Ratings from 2 to 7. Since they got raided about a year ago they been slow to take you in the back.

Jayda is usually out late I believe. But she gave me her cell number and told me I could call her anytime. She was ok for a short date but I probably will not call her because she won't let me DATY or get too touchy. But I still kept the number just in case.

Be safe brah!

[Kokaroach]

I go to Star almost once a week. Very good massage! Strictly legit.

I've been to Youngs once a while ago. She thought I was a cop and asked a lot of questions. I got a lame massage, that's all. The other times I've tried there I wasn't even let in.

I used to go to Kings a while ago also. Massage with release, but my regular has long gone. Now the last few times I've tried to go there I wasn't let in too!

Moonlight lets me in, but I don't get a good massage.

Sounds like the other places might be due a revisit.

One thing I've learned from all the massages I've been to is that you can't have your cake and eat it too. You have to sacrafice one or the other... massage or release. Most times it's the massage that suffers. The first time you go it's alright, but the more you go the quicker they get to the release and they never finish the massage. And you leave with the kinks that you came in with.

Now I keep the massage and the "play" separate. Even if they do extras, if I like their massage I'll decline the extra. Because it happens all the time. Eventually the massage suffers.

FWIW, Good luck!

[C Kramer]

"Tried King's twice but did not get any extras. The second time I asked for it by pointing at my member but she said they don't do that."
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junior boy-- Actually, I found that while being massaged, having a hard on and placing my hands on her indicates that you aren't LE. I sort of place my hand under her butt and gently grab the back of her leg. If she doesn't take my hand away, I lightly stroke her leg up and down and if nothing, I might try for more private areas. By that time, usually the girl will be playing with my knob asking me what I'm interested in.

[Country John]

Going back to Honolulu but before I do I want to share a bit of my experiences during the last few visits since July 03.

Waikiki SW. Sexy and young yes. Solid business people, yes. Rip off artists, YES. Avoid them like the plague.

Weeknight (about 9PM) "Candy" rolls up to me and says "for $150.00 you get me and the time of your life." B***S**t.

What you get is a ride to the old Aston Waikiki Tower (which stinks) a CBJ/CHJ TC maybe as long as you pop in 15 minutes. Otherwise she stops and says "OK time's up." These are the same knockout SW's referred to in previous posts.

They hang out by the International Marketplace and are looking for the blinking tourists. Stay away. Keep your $$. Tell 'em Country John said "no."

Was tempted to the New Yorker but the crowd was more than I expected so I went to the VIP Lounge. Was met by another "Candy" (pretty blonde about 25 and an 8 body) paid $50.00 entrance and got her down from 150.00 to 120.00 for table shower and CFSTC. She was very sensual and I popped in no time after start of FS. She was that sexy. Probably overspent but I am still new and learning as I grow and expand.

Visited a non descript AMP on McCully, towards Waikiki and away from the H1. (About a block west of King street) and for 50 + 100 got Yani, 35ish Korean lady very soft and sensual with the most beautiful tits I've seen in a long time. Multi position with much passion and real GFE for about an hour. Left most satisfied and I will go back. Much better than VIP. No shower though and this was a bit unsettling. She used a warm wet terrycloth towell to clean up but I'm wondering about the sanitation in a place like that. She will go to the hotel though and I think I'll do this next time. Hell, I'd take her to dinner for a real GFE - those tits - I'll never forget them. Large natural and firm perky tits. Jeez they were beautiful. By the way, the massage was terriffic. I lay face down and she squats at the top with my head between her creamy thighs. Stroked her thighs and butt and she actually did the flip, and mounted. She got the hat on without me even knowing - real smooth. Excellent experience.

Also visited the AMP on Beretania mentioned in a previous post (right off McCully and next to the H1). My first time there was an amazing experience. Short Korean girl about 25, black hair, tight body, little titties with Farrah Fawcett nipples. $50. ent fee and she started right into business. CBJ for about 5 minutess and then FS. I complained about the condom, she removed it right away and said "OK No problem for me if no problem for you." "I am OK." So stupid me thinking with the wrong organ said "Me OK too." So off the condom came and I had a fabulous time FSTC. NEVER remove the condom - it was stupid stupid stupid. I left $60.00 on the bed (she would not take it from me directly).

I went back on a subsequent visit (about 3 weeks later) and no-one there knew who I was talking about. Instead I got this very sensual chinese girl who thought I was a cop and wouldn't do anything after the massage so I got up, got dressed and left. Maybe I should have left more of a tip last time eh?

I'll be back in Honolulu the end of November. Always appreciate a hot tip.

Country John

[PhantomHNL]

Has anyone tried this service:

http://www.deja69wayz.com/home.html

I was thinking about checking out Monica and was wondering if anyone had any information on how good Deja's or especically Monica.

Thanks!

Phantom

[Kimchi]

I tried New Yorker the other day and I feel that while the service is good they do not give a very good massage. When I go I want more than just a release. I want a good massage. I think so far that Rainbow 7 Relaxation has the best of both. The girls there are very good giving a massage but also at the full service that I require. I have tried a few of them and I will tell you for the service you cannot beat the place. The shower is excellent and the massage is well worth the tip by it self. And of course the finish is what you expect from these girls. They are pro's and they know it. For the buck the full service and I mean full service at Rainbow is better than any other place here in Honolulu. I will wright up other places I have visited but so far Rainbow 7 Relaxation at: 350 Ward Ave. #200, 591-9180 is my choice as the best. Let me know your thoughts as we all have our favorite places and girls.

Good hunting, good luck.

[VipHawaii]

To Member #1062:

Yeah, Smile Spa has brand new shower/sauna/jacuzzi. It's absolutely emmaculate! I should post some pics sometimes, but the facility is state of the art! In terms of quality, it's even better than 24 hour fitness.

Phone number is 593-8500. Here is the address (I finally got the business card):

754 Ilaniwai Street. 2nd Floor

I think you can call to make reservations.

There are several private rooms (for karaoke, beds, massage tables), but there are only 2 jacuzzi rooms to share with. There is a huge karaoke room with a large projector TV. It's capable of holding a small shingdig. Finally, there is a bar where people hang out and eat/smoke/drink.

I find that the girls who work here are like normal Korean Hostess girls; they sit with you and talk with you while you hang out in the bar. I don't think they go with you to the jacuzzi room, but I've never asked.

Again, I treat this place as a love hotel, for now. It's the best deal in town for private short-term hotel-like stay. $50 gets you free pupu's, 1 free drink, and all the use of the jacuzzi,sauna,state-of-the-art shower, bed, massage machine, karaoke, etc...

I'll post some pics of the place soon.

[JFX]

To: Nutty James Timber (aka Crazy Jim Wood)

1) Great intel on the MPs, thanks.

2) As others have said, save the "my friend" bit for posts on jr. high school bulletin boards.

3) What's with the Shift+F7, $0.50 thesaurus terminology (aka "words)? Ree-membah, mos' da guyz dat schpock out dis site get ee-dah get wun G.E.D., o-ah wen' grad from pub-lik skoo', l'dat brah ===> K.I.S.S.

4) Thanks again, keep 'em coming.

JFX

[GettingTang]

Visited Rainbow 7 tonight. Overall I cannot recommend this place, although I do believe in giving a place a second try.

As I walked in, I found the girls to be gorgeous. Looks from the 5 girls easily averaged 8s maybe even one or two were 9's. Hot little petite Asian girls, I believe two Japanese and three Thai girls.

Anyhow, paid Masaman, I did not get to pick my girl, she just sent one into my room. Girl walked into room like 20 seconds later before I was even undressed. She seemed rushed right from the get-go! Laid down on front side. Girl was cute petite and looked really sweet, I figured I was in for a real treat :( Rushed through a very lame sorry excuse for a massage, flipped me over, and whispered to me, if I took care of her, she will take care of me. There was no check for LE, which kind of shocked me. She left room and came back. Asked what I wanted. I told her I wanted everything, she said 1.5, wow, expensive! That would have been 2.0 with the entry fee. Too much for an Asian girl who can be had in Thailand for $20-$30! I only had another 1.0 on me. Offered this to her for "everything" She got a disgusted look and proceeded to pour a huge amount of oil on my tool and give me an HJ at about 800 MPH, I asked her to slow down and at least show me her body,. She would not, told me for 1.0, that's all i get! RUDE! rushed me at 800 MPH to completion, wiped me down and handed me shoes and socks. Piss poor service. I would not recommend.

From reading these boards, I had figured on $.5 for entry and 1.0 would get you anything you like. What a joke. My assessment and this comes from on seriously experienced monger.

Looks 8.5
Attitude 3.0
Service 2.0
Overall experience -2.0
It was bad. In and out the door in 12 minutes for 1.5 total, and left with a greasy over oiled pecker. AVOID RAINBOW 7!!!!

[Qjkl]

Most of the Hawaii AMPs are a little more expensive than other places in the US. The .5 entry fee can sometimes be negotiated down to .4, the tip is anywhere from 1.2 to 1.5 usually, if you have strong negotiation skills and the girl is a little desperate, you can get FS for less, but that's more the exception than the rule.

[Tsboy69]

GT,

What a bunch of crap. We all can learn from your experience, sorry you had to go through that. All the women in that type of work are there for the money. You should of told her to take a hike and call for the mama-san to complain. Quite often, the mama will try to make you, the customer happy.

In Las Vegas, recently, I had a similar type girl. Unhappy, uninterested, unfreindly. Usually there all that is available is a HJ. She started going to town with the oil way too fast, would not slow down, so I told her to stop. I cleaned up and stiffed her. I complined to the mama and she acted suddenly that she could not understand english. Stay away for Hong Kong massage in L.V.

I know of freinds in Honolulu that pay $1.5 for fs, but usually pay $1.2. For $1 you should of at least gotten a CBJ and had the chance to check her out. The entrance fee is seperate. Go find a Pennysaver, usually there are $10 off discount coupons (for entry)

We'll all avoid that place from now on. Happy hunting everyone!

[Kimchi]

Getting Tang,

I would have told the Mamasan that you were not satisfied with the girl you got. If you had complained they would have taken better care of you. Also, you can negotiate the house fee, they normally give you a $10. discount if you ask. Remember that in this hobby you need to ask questions and negotiate and lastly complain if you feel you are not getting your dollars worth. You also have to remember that you are not in Thailand but the good ole USA, so the price is alot higher. Tsboy69 is correct, tell the mamasan she will try to make you a happy customer. Give the place another try.

Good hunting.

[Asianlover4u]

Went to Smile Spa recently and asked for a massage. There was a .5 entrance fee and mama san went to the back and brought out a korean girl about a 5 on looks but nice body (except for her fake boobs which were rock solid).

She gave a decent massage and a nice finishing touch.

Would like to try it in the jaccuzi next time.

[DaKine]

Has anyone tried Oceanside Massage?

Does anyone know if 'AAAA Aromatic Massage' does hj and/or light touch massage?

Thanks

[Country John]

Yeah guys. Honolulu is expensive but as we all know, it costs a few more bucks to live there doesn't it? I'm going back the end of November so I'll keep some detailed notes. I was a newbie then (oh the newbie experiences). If I get FS for 120 I'l will be one happy camper.

My experience with AMP is that it is truly a roll of the dice if you are not a repeat customer and do not have a fav girl.. let's face it, we want the most skin for our buck and the girls want the most buck for the skin. Simple eh? Some ladies are bold and will try (for one of several reasons) to make the fare without delivering the goodies. Could have been a long day, long week or whatever.

Going to any of these places on a Friday or Saturday is done at your own peril - be smart and do the best you can up front when negotiating. If you're out there stumbling and stammering or uncertain they will smell the blood in the water and vavoom!!!

Since there are so many varying reports about the same place, you must believe by now that when you go, you might not get what you wanted so suck it up and do the right thing. Get dressed, leave, go immediately to your computer, post a report and get on with it.

The first of the week is when the best bargains and services are had.

When I went to VIP Lounge, it was a Wednesday or other mid week day and I expected exactly what I got. OK service, beautiful girl, CBJ, CFSTC clean up and out the door, no lollygagging around, no long goodbyes etc. I felt great when I left the place - this (white blonde) was very sensual and sexy. It's not her fault I popped like a ***** - that was ME on the end of the stick.

I agree with previous posts that if it is not going well, stop, get dressed and leave without tipping. Maybe complain but since the girls rotate out every 90 days or so, when you go back there will most likely be a new crew. Mamasan doesn't remember (or give a shit about) who you are anyway.

We have more important things to be concerned about. SAFETY and protection for us and the girls.

I still suggest the places I mentioned in my previous long winded post. What helps me is when I say (very politely) "no rush job OK?" Lets take the time we have OK? Then when they agree, they know you don't want any of the "hurry up" stuff and if they do start that on you and you break your mood, take the massage, hold the pop and LEAVE. Tell them "no pop this time thank you, just massage." That will speak volumes.

You see, I'm in this for more than just getting laid. I think that we can have something to do with how the sessions go. Let's face it, they know the game better than we do so why should we be on the effect end -it's our money and we can give it to whoever we want!

The big ripoff in Honolulu is the centerfold type SWs by international market. Jeez guys, tell them that the "word is out" when they roll up on you.

Is ther ONE person out there who can post a positive experience with these girls? If so, please post.

Aloha and Mahalo!!

Country John

[AsiaTraveler2]

GT;

It's actually pretty rare to get any of the high end girls (in terms of looks), to take less than 120. 140-150 is the norm. The older woman (30's-40's) at other places will negotiate down to $100, but I always pass. You generally get what you pay for. That does not excuse that girls attitude, though. Complaining does not generally work. They tend to protect the girls .. one customer against a girl that will bring them alot of money. At least that's my experience. That place usually gets good reviews and I enjoyed my trips there, so you may just have gotten the wrong girl or got her at a bad time. Good luck with future ventures.

AT2

[AsiaTraveler2]

I tried Sarah at Pine Tree .. she's back. Overall it was very good, but I would rate her looks about a 7. Above average but not a stunner. Probably set my expectations too high. She's full figured (not fat), but think more Kate Winslet and not Cameron Diaz in terms of body type. No complaints .. felt great. A bit rushed, but it was a Saturday night, so I'll cut her some slack on that. Excellent technique though .. from the great attention/tease in the body shampoo through the end. She does aim to please. I would recommend, but suggest a weekday visit.

AT2

[John Quakman]

I visited the Rainbow Friday and was treated to BeBe. She is a looker and is very agressive. A little funny about her buds and is against any digital exploration but DATY and DATO is OK. Every thing covered but the HJ. FS for 1.5 plus entry but the service is unrushed and the shampoo is good.

Had another experience in wackywacky land a few weeks ago with a gorgeous brunette with looooong legs and large (Turned out to be natural) rackage. Spyed her strolling with the other hooks on Kuhio and got a little wave. Turned around and pulled up along side. She wouldn't get in and directed me to turn right at the light and park. She kinda circled around but finally came to my window but did not lean in. She said she had a place and for me to park behind the ABC and keep my eye on her. She finally stood at the entry of an apt bldg. and I went over to join her. We went up to a room that was furnished in early trick pad and we got down to business. 2.5 for fs which as it turned out to be CBJ (no touching please ) followed by "sure it's in" fake cowgirl. Floped her down to stop this nonesence with some mish but was thwarted by "sure it's in" hang on to big Ed so the sack won't come off mish. Finally gave up and off came the cover and finished with a fast bang bang HJ. Great lookin' neked babe but usual Waikiki rip off service. Almost worth it to see her neked. Not quite.

[Kimchi]

Did Bebe have a tatoo on her upper chest? If so she is one hot little girl. She likes to play with your nipples to get you going. She has a great rack and always loved to give asian. Give her a try. I still like Rainbow 7 better than most of the other places. YMMV.

[Country John]

Calling ALL WSF people.

When I am next in Honolulu, I will tell the SW rip off artists that the "word" is out among us organized mongerers, you have to do the same.

These girls are not there for us at all. They prime you on the street, get you in the room, take the money up front, start their CHJ, switch to a BRIEF CBJ then back to the CHJ etc etc then "hurry up" then "times up - sorry" then you're out on the street all mad and bothered and feeling ripped off. Maybe we deserve it but maybe we don't. If you let them hook you after reading this and previous posts, then fooey on you mate. You just got fucked.

Stick to the known good spots. Patronize them. If you gotta go you gotta go but get a bang for your buck OK?

No more stories about the Honolulu SWs 'cept to say you told them as above.

CJ

[GettingTang]

I ditto country john here.
Just did the SW rip-off routine myself. I was so digusted I'm ready to volunteer undercover work for the 5-0. these girls are nothing but 100% bonified scam artists! (and that is a compliment) No service, no nothing. I too will let them know the word is out. Actually tonight i will trail a few and harrase them by warning potential customers of the level of service they will likely receive.

[GettingTang]

SEEKING ADVICE ON JAPANESE WOMEN

As most of you folks whom have ventured to Hawaii have come to realize, is this place is full of beautiful Japanese women. By the thousands. Anyone out there have experience with these women?
Now for this topic I'm not talking mongering, but actually penetrating their shyness and landing a legitimate date!

I have noticed these women are hard to approach, they seem shy. None will even make eye contact?? what's up with that? I'm not a bad looking guy but seem to have found little luck in approaching them. These women are beautiful here in the greater waikiki area. They are to be found by the thousands, most are single.

Any fellow players have experience on how to approach them?

Also, where they hell do they all go for late night fun? I have been hitting some of the local clubs in the area and never seem to find the Asian women out and about? I know they don't all go back to their rooms and go to sleep at 8:00 pm, so where the heck do they all go? Any particular clubs or bars they hang at?

These women are gorgeous guys, beautiful petite bodies, graceful as any women can be, milky white skin, soft and smooth as a babies, facial features of a model. AND, they are everywhere!

Now from my travels overseas in the past, I KNOW Japanese women are into American men and I know they can be quite shy and intimidated, but this is ridiculous! I have been here for 12 days trying to crack through the shell the put on with no luck, I have even eaten in many Japanese only eateries, all with no luck. If anyone who reads this board has any tips it would be greatly appreciated.

Gettingtang~!

[AsiaTraveler2]

Getting Tang;

I'm not an expert on this, but here's my take on it. I visit Japan alot and my understanding is that it's a situational thing when they visit Hawaii. It's awkward for them, when a stranger is trying to hit on them in front of other travel companions. Many of them are traveling with co-workers and accepting any dates with a stranger in Hawaii may create a "gossip" situation when they go back home. So ironically, it would be easier to pick them up in Tokyo, when they are alone, than it would be in front of a fellow co-worker or friend. I think if you are lucky enough to meet one alone on the beach, you may stand a better chance.

AT2

[Country John]

I hate reading repetitive posts, they are irritating and waste time. But I want to repeat my earlier plea to Waikiki bound mongerers, AVOID the Waikiki SW's and TELL THEM the word is out on them.

Hey GT, good on you mate, I'll give you a "heads-up" (no pun intended) when I'm in town, maybe we can get a beer and compare notes - hell, maybe even hit those Waikiki SW's together man!

Hey Newbies, read the previous posts closely, lots of real world experience there.

AT2, thanks for the input on the asian women - some of the most beautiful and sensual women the the world - man, I'd love some inside scoop on how to hook up. I fall in love a thousand times when they are around, it's amazing how that happens.

I'll be back in Waikiki in a few weeks and promise a good report with as many pics as possible.

Jackson, thanks for letting this post through.

Best to all and BE SAFE,

Country John

[C Kramer]

GT (one of these days maybe you can tell us how you came upon that name),
I used to meet a lot of japanese office girls in Waikiki. The secret is that you go with another male friend. This way, you pair up and at some point, you can go your separate ways. Both would not know what happened the night before or during the date, so no losing face. Of course, you have to treat them nice and with respect. Most japanese guys still treat women in their country kind of crummy, so treating them nice really goes a long way. Have fun!

[Crazy Jim Wood]

GT,

Seen lots of Japanese hanging out at the Moose. Fairly easy to approach although as CK and AT mention below they are somewhat reserved around their companions and are generally just c*ckteasers.

Kuhio date:
Struck out at the Moose the other night and got a date near Denny's on Kuhio across from Scruples with a nice white very white girl from a trailer park in Arizona. Said "just looking, ma'am" but she pushed my face into her C breasts and the scent of her perfume (Passion) overwhelmed my senses. She said 1.5 but settled for 1.

Went back to her condo on Walina. In the better light saw she had snaggle teeth and some type of pimple/sore on her upper lip hidden by lipstick so turned down the BJ. Breasts a little soft (but she wasn't fat). She laid back on the bed and spread her legs back behind her ears and slapped her kitty just like in the movies and moved and moaned like she was supposed to.

Showered afterward and was back on the street in a little under a half hour.

Jimbo

[Crazy Jim Wood]

Had an interesting experience at New Yorker.

Got through the maze of hallways and finally made it past the gated door and was greeted by a line up--asians and a few haoles as well. Should have taken my time but went with the first one to present herself (late 20's Korean). Table shower was ok went to the room and answered numerous are you a cop type questions. Finally she asked what I wanted I said HJ and was told FS is the norm but she agreed to HJ for .5 (I didn't feel like spending $$ and she wasn't that hot). She kept saying you think I'm ugly I can get you someone else and the HJ was completely lackluster so I decided to leave without finishing (cop questions and poor performance had ruined the ambience) but she said I couldn't leave until after I had cum (!).

She said undercover cops are allowed to enjoy what ever service they like at tax payer expense as long as they don't cum so this was the ultimate prove you're not a cop test. Some how the fact that she actually wanted to see some sperm and was afraid but was controlling my coming (no pun intended) and going rejuvenated me but she wanted me to finish the job myself because she was tired. Well I wasn't having any of that. I noticed she had nice breasts which I had some how missed before so I got some FS with her licking my ear and moaning while I sucked her tits until mission complete within 5 minutes. For .5 in the door .5 for the rest not to bad.

I guess you shouldn't go to New Yorker unless you want FS.

Jimbo

[AsiaTraveler2]

Anyone try Aiko in the Century Center?

AT2

[Hapaman]

Most Waikiki SWs are big ripoffs. The only one there that I enjoyed is a tall hispanic girl Gina. After you get to know her she'll treat you real nice. She's very fit with huge boobs (enhanced). She's not rushed once you get to know her. She may even give you her cell phne number. I called her on my last trip but she was she was out of town but will be back. Other than Gina, forget Waikiki. Go to New Yorker or Pine Tree. I gotta try Rainbow 7 on my next trip. Looks like there's a lot of positive reviews posted.

[Kimchi]

Has any one tried dating any of the providers? I always thought it would be interesting to date or even live with one of them. Of course knowing that they would leave you sooner or later. Just wanted some feed back.

Good hunting.

[John Quakman]

Just returned fro a visit from the Cache and had a new experience there with Linda. Small, 5'-0", pretty, a definate spinner. She gets real neked in the old back boothe and a cbj + hj for $.8 is done real well but somewhat rushed. Not cheap but acceptable for a girl with her looks.

Mailie was avalabe last week and we sat together for a while. Like Mina She is available for the full meal deal but too much of a hustler for me. Soon as it was apparent that $20 drinks were all I was going to pop for, She didn't test my committment or wallet in that area.

I still want to try the other little girl, she is sweet looking.

Note: found the lotion this time, hidden in the fake tree!

[Hilo Boy]

Aloha, I am brand new to this board so please forgive me until i learn the lingo. Does anyone know of an amp or good providor on the west side of Oahu? Pearl City, Kapolei, Waipahu etc.

I recently tried Pearl City Relaxation and the girls I saw as I walked in the door were hideous. Made up excuse and ran out the door. I have seen some favorable posts on a worker named Mia but they said she was no longer working at Pearl City Relaxation. When I asked the Mamasan about this she said Mia was late and should arrive soon. Does Mia still work at Pearl City Relaxation? If so is she a cutie, and what would I expect to pay her?

Mahalo

[AsiaTraveler2]

Hilo Boy;

All of the AMP's rates are about the same. $40 or $50 to get in, $50-$80 for HJ and $120-$150 for FS. Low end for the less popular places/girls and high end for the top end places/girls. Unfortunately all the great AMP's are in town. None on the West Side of Oahu or for that matter anywhere else on Oahu except Honolulu.

AT2

[PhantomHNL]

Quick question on Rainbow 7?

Can you pick the girls like New Yorker, or does the Mamasan send one that she chooses into your room? If that's the case, if the girl that she sends in isn't what I'm looking for, is it cool to ask the girl politely for another girl?

Thank you, I just wanted to know the ins and outs before hurting someone's feelings.

Thanks!

[AsiaTraveler2]

To all lurkers;

I would like to urge all lurkers, to post some info. It would really help. Just a Thumbs up for an establishment, massage or AMP, etc. would help. We could all use more info .. I know there's alot of you out there.

AT2

[John Quakman]

Outta town for a week or two but recent passes through downtown have revealed a noticable drop off of action.

I did discover a ravishing Samoan woman about 30 with a superb bod and a hugh natural rakage at least DD. Dives a Lexus SUV and asks you to follow her to a secluded spot for the main course. Sortta spooked me to follow a lexus but it turned out to be real. Got Fs for 1 and all was covered. Service OK but kinda cramped with me BIG and her BIG but she is limber! Definately not a BBW and real pretty. Said She dances periodically in Vega and is from the Big Island.

[MadCocker]

Phantom,

As far as I know you don't get to pick your girl at Rainbow. But it is alright to ask for another one or ask to see another girl. I've done it and the mamasan is usually cool about it.

[Kimchi]

PhantomHNL,

Yes, if you do not like the girl that was sent in tell her you want to see some one else. Should be no problem. If problem then ask for the mamason. The girls want the money but so does the house. Be nice about it, if you ask up front they will do a line up. That way you know what is available. Remember it does not hurt to ask, they want the business as much as you want to get the business, if you know what I mean. Enjoy Rainbow 7 as it is a great place.

Good hunting.

[PhantomHNL]

A quick report on Moonlight.

Had a pretty decent massage by a 30+ Korean woman ($50/hour), after the hour was up, I asked how much for an additional 30 minutes so that she could massage my neck, that added an additional $30. Before long I had one hand on her butt, and she placed her hand on my other hand - so I guided her over to my knob, which led to a nice happy ending.

This was my third time to Moonlight, and the first time I could report on a happy ending.

[Busy Boy]

Tried Lisa, blonde, 5'2", pierced nipples, early 30's, 34B, and in reasonable shape. You can negotiate for FS (covered) to $100. Worth a try.

[Older Guy]

First time visit Rainbow7 Sunday night. After answering a few questions Mamasan asked for .5, and she sent Bebe in. Answered more questions but no price negotiated (maybe because I’m an old guy). Good shower, good massage which turned into 69 (her on top) DATY. FS started with cowgirl, then reverse cowgirl, doggie, laydown doggie, finished missionary. Complemented my joint & called me cute. Showered again, she left and came back dressed, helped me dress including putting on my shoes. She pretty much figured I and I gave her 1.5. Pretty girl with round and soft tits and nice pussy.

Very good experience but since I’m short, would like a skinny girl about 5’0” instead of 5’5-6”. Saw another girl about 5’10” talking on cell on the way to second shower. Geeze, she’d kill me!

[Kimchi]

Looks like Rainbow 7 is a good place. Just remember YMMV. I have been to the place next door and I mean next door and the girls there were in the 6-7 range while at Rainbow they were more like 8-9. They were not at all friendly and seemed to be mechanical when it came to their work. If I am spending good money I don't want a machine. Rainbow 7 the girls have always been more like a girl friend at least for the hour I am with them. They are tender and warm which I like. Oh well, good hunting.

[Country John]

Older Guy:

I saw a few of these lovelies that scared me too. Sounds like you had a good time mate, good on you!

Country John

[AsiaTraveler2]

Older Guy;

Regarding the tall gal .. "Geeze, she’d kill me!" Yeah but what a way to go! And think of the cool obit you'd have! lol! Thanks for the post.

AT2

[AsiaTraveler2]

Just wanted to pass this info on, since she get's such high grades from others who have seen her. Her website. A bit pricey at $300 and she only visits Hawaii periodically. Looks like her next visit is mid December. Gets 8,9's and 10's in looks/service. Her name is Kalia.

http://www.paradisehotties.com

AT2

[Hilo Boy]

Hey all,

My last message was sent before I finished writing. I wanted to ask if anyone knew independent girls Cheyenne or Vanessa? If anyone has any info please let me know. If not check out escortsinhawaii.com click on Amber's friends link and let me know if you think I should choose Vanessa or Cheyenne. High price for me so I am asking for your opinion.

Mahalo & Peace

[Country John]

Hilo Boy:

Looks like Amber used to work at VIP (maybe she still does) but when I was last with her she told me she was doing pictures the following day for escorts hawaii. Sure looks like her but man her rates have gone up!!

If it's the same girl, she said she was from Wisconsin and told me I was a very handsome man. (I don't believe that for one minute- that she is from Wisconsin)

Anyway, negotiated her down to $120.00 for FS at VIP which was a bit rushed but not overly so -man she was beautiful - tight body, great skin, little bouncy titties just a joy to have - I'm sure she'll be a star.

I could only last about 10 minutes with her, that's how good she was (I usually take about 20 minutes or so with a real pro to cum) but she just wacked it out of me man - jeez.

I see a trend developing among the girls. They see the potential of the high end market and when they are confident about themselves and their potential, they upgrade from a VIP Lounge thing to their own thing and the rates go up accordingly. But, remember it is a supply and demand market - although there is a high end market it is tough to break in. Amber on the other hand should have NO trouble - I thought she was a little out of place at VIP so I am not surprised to see her site.

I often refer to my sales efforts (and anyone out there who has to hustle for every sale will agree) as "running like a *****" (no disrespect to the ladies - it is a figure of speech). Same is true for the ladies I suppose.

Anythng further on the SW scene? Are we out there doing our job and telling them that no more WSG Monger business like good soldiers? I hope so.

I miss those sunsets from the 12th floor balcony of the Parc Waikiki. I love Hawaii.

Be Safe and BE NICE,

Country John

[C Kramer]

That Kalia on Paradise Hotties has a nice body, but too bad you can't see the face. I know that this is certainly off-topic and its hard to compare, but one of you guys talked about going to Thailand awhile back, so I've been looking into going. I just calculated my expenses and with a $500 r/t quote from Honolulu I got, with 7 days of hotel and having 2 girls a day/night, I figured I'd drop around $1,500-2,000 total inclusive of food. After seeing Kalia's rates of $950 for 3 hours with her, it makes it a bit hard to spend that type of money. Not that she's not worth the time and money.

[Country John]

The only difference between the 600 per hour girl and the legit 100 to 150 dollar per hour girl is the numbers.

The higher price probably means better digs and more jewelry but in the "end" it's more often than not the same stuff.

I've had 1200 per hour women and believe me they are a bit better in bed but I was surprised to learn that they are very much the same as the struggling MP looker that would be between a 9 and 10.

I gave up on the high proce stuff simply because there was o major quality gap.

Some guys need to be very very discreet and perhaps the higher priced ladies offer something more in that area but that and a few other insignificant details don't make the expenditure worth it - really.

No disrespect to the ladies. They are out there to get the most buck for the bang. As long as they do the right thing then the boiys who pay the price will get excellent service - just (to my thinking) not 600 to 1200 worth.

I'd take the trip for 2 grand.

Country John

[Kimchi]

Besides Rainbow 7 and the New Yorker what other places are good to visit? As you know I like Rainbow 7 but would like to test other places, any good suggestions? I am open to them. I'm only in Honolulu 1 week a month on business. I would like to try a place that is as accomodating as Rainbow 7 but not as expensive as New Yorker. Let me know.

[Hilo Boy]

Hey Guys,

I have heard raves from Kalia's clients. They say she treats you like a king. Not natural and a bit to large for my taste. I am now looking at Hana who I saw on Eros-Hawaii. Once again I would appreciate any opinion or info. on Hana. Just check out the site and tell me if you think I am spending my money wisely.

Mahallo

[JFX]

C Kramer:

If you're thinking about going to Thailand, GO FOR IT! Man, so glad to hear that someone is thinking to expand their horizons far beyond Kuhio Ave, Kukui Plaza, Chinatown, Keeamoku, etc. $950 for 3hrs, or for 3 days?!?! I'll take the latter, mahalo. Actually, if you're real frugal you could probably get 7 days in Bangkok for $950 (incl. airfare). If you personally are budgeting 1500-2000, you can either (1) live large in Bangkok or (2) extend your stay longer (up to how you spend your $). Rough guess-timate, I'd say you could have 7 days of pleasure in Thailand for around $1200 (assuming $500 airfare). That's what, 4-6 overpriced trips to Kalakaua or Keeamoku? Pattaya is real cheap living-n-loving, but "looks" of girls is somewhat less in quality than in Bangkok. Important, when I say "looks" I'm talking about facial features, not bodies. Thai girls overall are slim and trim, great, great bodies! No chubbies, tubbies, softies or fatties like in HI. The more cute and fair-skinned girls naturally gravitate to where the money is, Bangkok. $50 fee just to get in the door at a Keeamoku MP? Gimme a friggin' break! That same $50 will cover your bar fine and get you 2 (repeat TWO) girls back to your hotel room for some boom-boom.

Anyway, check out the Thailand (and even Philippines) boards on this great site. Read how the rest of the world is mongering. There is more out there besides what is posted on USA/HI section of this great site.

Cheers,

JFX

[Member #1062]

C Kramer,

My simple advice for you would be to book your flight to Thailand tomorrow. Forget Kalia, forget New Yorker, Rainbow 7, Moonlight and especially Waikiki.

Find a reasonable hotel on Sukhumvit Road near the Nana Plaza and you will discover a unique piece of paradise with reasonable prices, cold beer, good restaurants and beautiful girls.

It's Disneyland for the American Male 24-7. Trust me, but be forewarned, it will spoil you for all that follows.

PS. Don't even think about limiting yourself to 2 girls/day-night.

[Kokaroach]

Went to New Yorker last weekend. I saw Mimi. Late 20s, korean, kind of chubby, kind of fun. I think she appreciated that I chose her among all the good looking ones. I was in a giving mood since my regular wasn't there. Good choice because it wasn't rushed and we had a good time. 160 total.

Cramer, bangkoktonight has the best intel.

I like pattaya better than Bangkok, but I'd suggest trying out both.

Since you're going all the way there, I'd budget for some shopping. Jewelry is cheap. I got a ring there that was appraised for four times what I got it for. Thai stone in nana plaza is good.

Goodluck!

[C Kramer]

Member #1062 - Actually, I've been to Thailand, but its been quite awhile. Hope I didn't come off as saying it sucks here in Hawaii. Though I remember when it used to be $25-40 for FS here when Richies and Donna's place were open, these are the times we now live in with $2.00/gallon gas and 100-150 sessions. My post came as a reaction to seeing what she charged for 3 hours. Everything is relative of course.

JFX - Yeah, I have been checking the prices lately and reading up the various boards. I padded my estimate of costs, so I do agree with you that you can get by with less. I'm more inclined to go to Pattaya as many guys speak of how the girls there are much more passionate and you can expect much more of a GFE than in BKK. I do know that the more beautiful ones are in BKK.

Enough of this off-topic stuff. Back to the beautiful girls of Hawaii!

[Paco Love]

Glad to see so much action on this forum lately.

Kimchi - I've always had fun at Pine Tree and China Spa. Haven't been there in a while but the girls normally give pretty good service, no rush and are friendly. Pine Tree normally had better looking ones than China Spa. As far as prices though they are closer in line with New Yorker. I've also read some pretty good things about VIP on this forum but haven't been there myself.

Hilo Boy - I've been with Hana and I wasn't impressed at all. She was nice enough and had a pleasant personality but didn't seem totally into it and looks wise she just didn't do it for me. She is on the shorter petite side but because she surfs she has big legs and big arms. She has no tits whatsoever and she must be in her mid-30's. I guess YMMV but I didn't feel it was worth it.

[Hilo Boy]

Hey Guys,

I need to know if Pearl City Relaxation is as bad as I think it is. Please let me know your experiences and if I should give it a go.

Mahalo

[AsiaTraveler2]

Hilo Boy;

Click on Forum search and type in Pearl City Relaxation. You will get a bunch of reviews. It's the quickest way to get answers, since most questions are repeats. Just to let you know .. it's one of the worst on the island.

Agree with Paco_Love2003 .. Pine Tree and China Spa are fine.


AT2

[Asianlover4u]

Went to King's Massage and had a decent massage, but nothing more.

I read that there is more to that place, but do you have to go there a couple of times first?

[Hilo Boy]

Hey Guys,

Tried Pearl City Relaxation on my own and I would be to kind if I said it stunk. Paid 40 at door and asked for Mia (who had favorable reviews). A fat Korean chick who smelled of kimchi took me to a table shower. After wash went back to room waited several minutes for Mia to return where she gave me a 5 minute massage and started to negoitate price. I offered 60 for bj after some screaming at me in Korean we agreed on 60 for hj. Pulled top off to expose large fat tits (i am into spinner). Truthfully I would have had more fun and more thrill if I bet my 100 on a 99-1 shot that lost the rider two jumps out of the gate at Santa Anita. Oh yeah on the way home had the worst plate of spaghetti marinara ever. Never trust an Italian deli that spells it marnara. Do we have any Goombah in the Islands?

Mahalo

[JFX]

Member #1062:

Concur --- TH experience(s) an analogy to getting RoadRunner. Once you're on RR, there's no going back to dial-up (i.e. Keeamoku, or to any other SW environment in U.S. for that matter).

Kokaroach:

Concur --- Pattaya advantages are: cheaper hotels, food, girls & overall shopping. Also, girls and bars are concentrated/compacted in relatively central area. BKK SW zones rather spreadout, a little more expensive (but WAY less than HI) and some more upscale establishments can be found. In addition to this great site, http://www.bkktonite.com/ is also a fine reference for mission planning.

C Kramer:

Concur --- More GFEs to be had in Pattaya. If/when you travel to the motherland, remember to post your trip reports. Mahalos! ;-)

Cheers,

JFX

[ClitCommander]

Are alot of the SWs in Honolulu addicted to ICE? One of my buddies who works for HPD says that addictions run high over there (no pun intended).

There are some concerns when it comes to dating SWs who addicted that are more apt to con you out of your money for services that have been agreed upon.

Just want to stay away from these types of women, if and when, I find myself in the Paradise.

Peace,
CC

[C Kramer]

If this is true about ICE, watch out boys because it brings out more LE and it can make the dating process go from bad to worst. I've had mixed results myself years ago before ICE, but its still a problem. I picked up one who wanted to light up while we found a spot and another who wanted to do so when we parked. As so as the pipe comes out or I see them carrying something, I say get the fu_ck out! I'm sure I could be busted as well.

One experience I had with this really cute blond a long time ago. She was definitely a little high, but I didn't realize that until later. We parked over in a parking structure near Kukui Plaza and she immediately went down and gave me a BBBJ. I was pretty satisified with that and was going to cum but she stopped and pulled me on top of her into one of the juicest pussies I've been into in a long time and did the dirty deed inside of her. Then she asked me to drive her back to Beachwalk. Tried to find her later that week, but I never saw her again. I'm guessing she wasn't a pro.

[Crazy Jim Wood]

Rakuen (1334 Young Street, I believe, right off of Keeaumoku, not far from highway) review:

Sorry this post is a little dated (few weeks ago) but been busy in and out of town.

Rakuen is a decent place, two entrances, front entrance has a big neon sign near it, other is in the back and less visible.

Fixtures are ok, rooms have walls and doors but walls do not go all the way to the ceiling. No AC but I never felt hot even with just the fan.

Went early in the afternoon a few times saw a few attendants and mama-san squatting in a circle eating kimchi and rice felt like I was back in the ville.

Saw Suji a few times, young (late 20s?) short (chin level) haircut, very nice, large suckable breasts, narrow ass. Sassy personality.

Very friendly attentive table shower soapie soapie soapie.

Passable massage and on to special services.

First time was .5 in the door, .5 for HJ. She offered nude HJ for .8 and I couldn't refuse.

After that it was FS for 1.5, start with CBJ, after that FS any position ok, she promised cowgirl but didn't really seem to want to work it. Nice full length mirror so you can enjoy the show. GFE, kissing on lips--I'm sure deep kissing and DATY would have been allowed and she seemed very clean but you never know...

Highly recommend!

Jimbo

[Member #1062]

There was an adult toy store called Suzy's right across from Pearlridge Shopping Center. Does anyone know where it moved to? My "friend" wants to know.

Thanks!

[Looking411]

Thanks for all the info. I just started going to the MPs. In the last two months I've been to the New Yorker twice. That is the extent of my experience. Both times it was 50 for the mama-san and 150 for the girl.

First time was with a young, pretty Korean. Slim, young body with nice natural boobs. I think her name was Sarah. Had to shower myself, but I didn't know any better. CBJ, DATY and finished off with several positions.

Second time was with a little older, sexy looking Korean. I think her name was Coco. Tanned, very fit, nice ass, enhanced boobs. Same type of action. She was better than the first, although the first girl was good also.

I was wondering if anyone had tried either of these girls so that I have some kind of gauge. I'd like to get the most bang for my buck.

I also would like input on where to find the best haole (caucasian) girl, the best Chinese girl and the best Filipino girl. Looks are important, but the total package of looks and performance is desired. I'd appreciate any help since I'm kind of new at this. In the meantime, I'll try and post a report on any future visits.

Thanks.

[Member #1062]

Thanks Jimbo. Rakuen has nice, clean facilities but I haven't been there in a while.

Personally, I'm looking for a new regular GF at NYorker. Anyone got a recommendation? I promise show up on the same night that you do. :-)

I also heard of a good karaoke bar near Pearlridge with *extras*. Anybody got a field report on that place? (NOT the infamous MP)

A former favorite babe called me from Smile Spa saying it was currently "the best" and wanted me to come and visit. I haven't gotten around to checking it out yet, but will post a report when I do. Fellow Bro's, any new news on this place?

Muchas mahalos.

[All Good]

Hi all,

Thanks for all the good scoop so far, he's a little in return.

#1062: Smile Spa - was there a couple of weeks ago. The place is brand new and spotless. As you walk in, there are several karaoke rooms on the right, then you make a sharp left and there are two table shampoo areas on the left, both of which have jacuzzis. Also there is a brand new sauna. Across from the bathroom areas are several typical AMP rooms, maybe cleaner than ususal. I was stuck with an attendant named Hanna, virtually anorexic with frightening implants. Since it was my first time there, I was unsure what was up. I was directed to the sauna (which was fine with me), then a table shampoo which was pretty standard, then some time in the jacuzzi. After that, it was back to the room. Hana was abrupt, asking " You tip me?" and the price was high. I opted for a middle range, noncomplete experience, with oral as the main event - it was pretty lame. I wouldn't go through it again, even if she paid ME. But, if there was some worthwhile talent in the place, it would be worth a second trip given the quality of the facility. The entrance fee was $50 for 3 hours. I was there for about 2 hours altogether.

How's that for some intel?

Would you be willing to share some info about your former favorite babe that called you from there? Maybe a name and description would help as to deciding about a return trip.

Hilo Boy: I second the info about the "Hana" who is on Eros. She is not into it, is not as attractive in real life as the pictures, and generally was not worth the price. That being said, if you have an overwhelming urge for a blonde, blue eyed, reasonably fit experience, and don't mind spending more than you should to get it...well, up to you brah.

OK, that's it for now.

All Good out.

[Hilo Boy]

Hi guys,

I am going to go strictly on your input in finding a providor that fits this criteria. A cute petite spinner type girl. Local, Japanese or howlie. Prefer bbbjtc and dfk with very good fbsm. Would like girl from website with local private incall and not amp type place. Any ideas on this one?

Mahalo

[John Quakman]

I got an e mail passing on a rumor that the big Samoan girl I wrote about was actually a converted guy. While nothing suprises me these days other than her size and sorta drifty mannerisms, nothing else leads me to think she is anything other than advertised. Her name's Tia and when I called the number she gave me, I couldn't hear her over the screaming of a kid yelling "mommy".

Any other input cause her bod is spectacular and natural.

[Red Beard 100]

Hey folks,

First posting here. This all occured the night before Thanksgiving. I cruised by the adult toy store off of Kam near Pearl Ridge/Aiea, accross from the car dealership and near Jelly's. I went in looking for a magazine and as I was searching I noticed a large woman followed by a guy walk out of the store. The guy was dressed effimate and I'm guessing he was interested in guys. Anyway, they didn't have the magazine I was looking for so I left. The woman and the guy were standing outside the store, over to the side, standing in the shadows. I've been to the store a couple of times before but this was the first time I had seen this. I'm guessing they were offering extra entertainment in the movie booths in the back, but I don't know for sure.

Next, being in the mood, I cruised to Ward Ave to see what was going on. I had had a good time before with the two spots there on 350. There were a lot of people standing around in front of the Hibiscus club however and the parking lot accross the street in front of Sports Authority is now very well lit. Not wanting an audience for my exploits I proceeded over to Keeamoku and the New Yorker. They were packed, and although there were several girls sitting in front when I went in, the mamasan grabbed my by the elbow and hauled me back to where the fishtank is and told me she would find a nice girl for me. $50 door fee as usual. The girl at first didn't seem too happy to be hooked up with me, but the place really was packed, so much so that we ended up having to wait about 5 minutes for a room, so I figured I'd better take what I could. She was pretty and had a nice body and nice, natural, perky breasts. Decent table shower from her followed by a surprisingly wonderful massage followed by some very nice extras. She didn't let me suck on her perkies for very long, and I didn't get to try DATY, but it wasn't an outright denial as much as she seemed kind of nervous and they were pretty busy, so time was important. Still, I didn't feel all that rushed, especially after the great massage she gave. I placed $150 on the nightstand after we had finished the extras and were putting clothes back on, which made her very happy and earned me a big hug and kiss.

Hope this provides some good info for all. Also, I've been to Pearl City Relaxation three times in the past and I will never ever go there again. Older, very large women who provide poor service for the same price as the cuties downtown.

Well, hope this helps. Keep your powder dry and the wind in your sails. -Red Beard 100

[Kimchi]

If you are looking to pick up one of the lovely ladies from one of the spas you should go to a Karaoke Bar. You need to go to one that is open 24 hours. I went to one the other day called Paradise off Ward Ave. It closes at 4:00 am but it was packed with girls from Rainbow 7. If it is a slow night the owner will close the place down or leave a couple of workers and the rest go out singing. Now they may have local boy friends with them or just be single. It can get expensive as they will order a bottle of Crown Royal or something. Will sing the night away. They would not take me to the next place they went to as only Koreans go. I tried but they said no. They like to party to forget what they do for a living. I had a good time. I went to the spa the next day and had a great time with Coco. I think she is like the manager and a worker. They put up new signs saying do not touch the workers, do not ask for any sexual activity. Only for show as the LE have come in a few times recently. I think you guys are right that the New Yorker is a better place than Rainbow 7 but I still like it. I also was shopping at a Korean grocery and met 2 girls who were worked at a local place but would not tell me. I knew they were workers as they had big chest tight outfits and Louis Vuitton purses. I helped them with the grocery bags and they told me they work at China Spa (?). Both a 9 out of 10. I will check it out. You can spot a worker easly when shopping at Costco. They buy boxes of Kleenex, toilet paper. Good hunting.

[MadCocker]

Went to Celica Relaxation. It's in the Centuary 21 building kitty corner to the Convention Center. I went on my lunch break while attending a conference at the Convention Center. $50 entry to the mamasan who was very nice. I had a cute late 20's 1/2 - Korean 1/2 - Japanese girl named Akiko. Massage was so-so but the dirty deed itself was awesome. No table shower and the place was hella hot. Not sure if the a/c was broken or just off.

Anyways details: after the massage, switched to CBJ while I DATY. Then switched to cowgirl while I sucked her breasts. Then to mish, then doggie, then back to mish for completion. She went and got a hot wash cloth and cleaned me up. The full service only cost me one bill. So total was $1.5. I liked the girl and her service, but not the facilities. But its a good walking distance visit if you ever find yourself at the Convention Center and need to get away for a quick break.

[Andix]

Visited Pine Tree last week. The old lady took me right away to a room (which was very clean) and asked for 50$. I asked to see some of the girls instead. She showed me one who I did not like. I asked to see another one. Finally, I liked the third girl she showed me and then I payed the 50$.

The girl was a nice korean girl with big eyes, about 25 years old. She first took me to the table shower room, gave me a nice treatment and then took me back to the original room. She asked me if I wanted full service. I said yes. She then undressed and gave me a quick massage, then a CBJ. After that we proceeded with several positions and ended in doggy style. Overall it was a good experience. Only negative was that her breasts were hard (implants) and she did not let me finger her. After everything was over I left 100$ tip. She asked me how much I left there. She said it's 150. But I just added another 20. She was not very happy about that but did not argue any more. And I left. I would say Pine Tree is an ok place.

Anybody else had a similar experience at this place or I was lucky?

[Hilo Boy]

Hi all,

Read a review on *** for a Son Kyong that said she gave a great massage and after he gently rubbed her legs he moved her hand over and she gave him a great hj.

She is located on King st. I arrived a bit early and was surprised to find she shared space with a herbal wellness center. Kids and mothers getting treatment. Did not get the feel this was the place for fbsm but when my appointment arrived was lead to a private room, with mat on floor and told to shower. I laid down on mat with towel wrapped around and she said if you are not a virgin you can get comfortable and remove towel.

Strong massage even gentle movement over my cock. Talkative and friendly so I started to gently stroke her ass. After a couple of minutes she pushed my hand away. A few minutes later I tried to gently move her hand onto my erection but she kind of ignored this and finished massage in different area.

I got the impression that she was offended and pissed off. I was told that she formally worked at Island Pro Massage and am wondering if anyone knows her story. She is a very hot chic (my type) and I would go again if I knew what she was really into. I paid the .6 and still gave a .1 tip (would have been .5 with hj). If anyone has info on her please tell since I would love to go back under different circumstances.

Mahalo

[Paco Love]

Got a chance to cruise the downtown circuit the week after thanksgiving. Not much to look at probably because it was a Monday. The Merchant/Queen street area was completely dead with only 3 "girls" on Merchant not very interested in working since they were just sitting together and talking.

A little more activity behind longs but nothing really outstanding. I did meet one girl and we drove around for a bit. CBJ for $40 which I was happy I got a good price. We parked and she kept yapping and yapping for 5-10 minutes. She finally tells me she has no cover and if I had one. I didn't and didn't feel like driving around with her in my car to pick up one so I just dropped her off.

I also drive around the longs/nuuanu area in the morning sometimes before work and I notice some of the girls still out. Anyone get any play before they go to work? Wondering if they give discounted services since their shift is ending?

Only problem is the sun is starting to come out so its hard to be discreet.

[Paco Love]

Hey Andix: Thats sounds about right for Pine Tree although you paid less than the normal for FS. The one thing I love about Pine Tree is the facilities. Always clean rooms. The girls are usually pretty good there also.

Quakeman: I actually say the samoan girl getting into her Lexus the night I was out cruising on Merchant. I didn't get a chance to see too well though. Reading your post reminds me of a girl that kinda matches your description that I picked up a few times several years ago. She was a large woman but had an incredible body and awesome tits which she would flash and get me to pull over. She was really passionate and I would only get CBJ from her. But what was odd was she always insisted I DATY first and a couple of times we 69'd in my small car. Still not sure how she got her head around the steering wheel. While not always a safe thing to do with a SW I couldn't help myself.

Can't remember what her name was but her pussy seemed odd and she said she worked Vegas also so I'm wondering if this is the same person and if the rumor is true.

[ayph]

Hilo Boy,

What is the address of this place? Or any contact information, I would like to try it out.

[Paco Love]

Had a chance to visit Tres Jolie which is a little club next to Femme Nu and behind aaxtion video. There is not much to look at there. A couple of young local girls dancing but nothing to spectacular. Maybe 6-7 in looks and body. Looked like there was a little DATY by one of the guys sitting at the stage with one of the girls dancing but not sure if they knew eachother. There is some action to be had there though as I noticed some of the patrons heading to the back booths with some of the girls.

One of the older korean woman kept trying to get me to buy her drinks and take me into the back. She said she suck dick for $100 but she was older and not very attractive. She had pretty nice tits for an older lady. I offered $40 and asked her to DATY but she held firm at $100 so I had to walk out. Wondering if anyone had a good experience there or if the quality of the women improve on the weekends. I went on a weeknight. Since it was empty I thought I could get some action at a discounted price!

[Kimchi]

Hilo Boy,

What site did you get that info on? I only know of 2 sites one that does not cover Hawaii and this one. Would be interested in feedback.

Thanks in advance.

[AsiaTraveler2]

Hilo Boy;

Where did you read that review of Son Kyong? There are very few reviews that cover local providers and I have never seen anything on her. If she's a legit therapist, then of course she would be upset if you touched her. No different than if you did it to a co-worker. You may have jumped the gun.

AT2

[MadCocker]

Out of sheer boredom, and oh yes a great deal of horniness, I went back to Kiku. Normal $50 cover but I had an awsome girl by the name of Tina. Superb table shower, but even better massage, almost close to the real thing. I was so happy with the massage I almost didn't want to do anything else. But while I was lying there blissfully she took off all her clother and gave me a bbbj. Then lay down and spread wide allowing me to DATY. Then we got it on in various positions. I wish I could marry her. I had only $80 in my wallet which she gladly accepted and told me to come back and bring more money next time. Not rushed, great service, low cost all made this a 10 in terms of experience.

[Kokaroach]

I've been to Son Kyong before. I went there for legit massage so I never tried anything funny and she never offered.

Most of these type providers can be very finicky.

He's referring to a post on the ************.

Good luck.

[John Quakman]

Paco Love

Sure sounds like her except I haven't Daty experience. She seems real slow and drives a big White Lexus. Real limber for sure and has a sun screen for the windshield and privacy.

[All Good]

Guys,

Has anyone actually seen "Riley" who advertises under the Eros Hawaii ad for VIP Independent escorts? Can anyone verify she's the one in the picture?

The reason that I ask is that if you right-click the picture of "Riley" the properties for it are:
http://eros-hawaii.com/file-images/ch-madison8-7.jpg

It just so happens there is an ad for a "Madison" on the Eros site, the two ads are worded very similarly, and the properties for the photo of "Madison" are:
http://eros-hawaii.com/file-images/ch-madison8-1.jpg

OK, so what's the point?

I'm sure that many of you have experienced the unpleasant event of arranging with a provider, going to the meeting, and then seeing someone totally unlike the supposed picture open the door. This has happened to me more than once here in Hawaii, and although I have walked away, it's a pain. So, can anyone verify that Riley is that smokin' hot body in the picture?

Thanks,

All Good

[C Kramer]

All Good - She could be using the different names so she knows who called on her personal ad and who called using the VIP service ad. Or some of these escort agencies use anyones pic that looks good and do the switch. I would call the Madison ad and ask her if she is one in the same.

[All Good]

RE: Riley/Madison

Kramer: Thanks for the suggestion. In the interim, I actually got eyes on the target because I couldn't resisit the photo that purported to be "Riley". Given the result, I think this qualifies as taking one for the team.

The bottom line is that the picture (neither the one labeled Madison nor the one labeled Riley) matched the actual woman.

Not even close. If it ever was the same person, it was apx. 10 years ago, and about 20-25lbs. The chest image might be close to accurate though. Performance was never fully completed during the session.

Based on a personal experience, I cannot recommend this individual. I made a newbie mistake, that I haven't made in a long while. I should have politely left without turning over the gift once I saw the deviation from the ad. But, I just wasn't disciplined enough on that day. However, I would suggest that if you cannot resist the temptation, or are just so curious you can't stand it, you should carefully question the person who answers the phone about the accuracy of the pictures and her scheduling practices. She had seemed very direct with me during phone contact, but had clearly told me it was her in the Riley ad. Not true. I won't be responding to either of those ads in the future. I made a mistake by not waiting until Mischief was available, it won't be repeated.

All Good out.

[John Quakman]

Made a pass through downtown on my way home about 11pm last night. Real slow, only one local girl kinda heavy that didn't catch my fancy. One the return pass however spotted a tall WSW with short blond hair. Had on Jeans and a white top under a short jacket. Great rack, the tops jiggled as she got in the car so they must be the real McCoy's. When I got a look at her face she was at least an 8 by any standards!
Problem is she had the Waikiki talk, you know "How much you got? I charge a hundred minimum. Every thing covered ect" so I figured she was slumming and didn't want the BS service that comes with wacky wacky land hookers so we went about 10', stopped and out she got. Too bad, super to look at!

[C Kramer]

All Good - I make it a point, after having had a bad experience, to never call girls who face I can't see in the ad. If I do, I don't assume its them in the pic. I also ask them point blank on the phone, "Is this actually you in the ad and is it a recent photo?" This is why I like AMPs and hitting the streets.

Quakman - That WSW will soon realize she's not in Kansas (Waikiki) anymore and have to change her prices/attitude as its different downtown.

[Kimchi]

Are there any good Karoke clubs to go to that you can meet some girls? I have been to a few and they seem not interested in a 35 year old mainland type of guy. Even though I have cash they seem to want to keep to the Korean or local guys. Any help? I do not go after the SW's as that is not my type. I like the AMP girls better. Your their boy friend for 1 hour and it does make sense. They treat you like a King for that hour and you can go home knowing that you feel good.

Just my feelings.

[HorneyinHilo]

Does anybody have any experience with "CCK Massage". I saw their ad in the classifieds. They are located in Honolulu near the City Diner above a market. Open 'til 7pm $35 / hour special. All that's missing is the "O".

[Jzjz]

Quakman,
I saw the same WSW tonite about 2am behind Longs. Fine as hell, blonde bob hairdo, short jeans skirt, long legs, big natural rack. Her name is Gabby from Chicago, been here 4 months. Said she works Waiks, and wanted 1 bill min for BJ, 2 bills for FS. Face at least 8+. Did not experience, but she was careful about HPD. She must have gotten busted in Waiks so must avoid for now and is in Downtown.

[Hilo Boy]

Guys,

A real hot chick named Nicole on eroshawaii has photos and info saying she is visiting Oahu for ten days. Does anyone know anything about this girl? Also what are the chances that she is LE doing a sting? Her area code is Miami, Fla.

Mahalo

[Punani Hunter]

Met and dated Gabby early monday morning at 1 am. $ for half & half, so her rate is negotiable. Attitude- not a GFE but friendly. A cut above your average Waikiki sw. Looks accurately described by Quakman & jzjz

[Jzjz]

Punani Hunter,

Did you or Gabby have a room or car date? You're a good man to take one for the team and report back with valuable info. That kind of participation is exactly what this website is all about.

[All Good]

Hilo Boy,

Re Nicole: she has "verified" pictures on the LA Exotics site; she directed me to them when I asked about the accuracy of her pics (thanks again Kramer) and she also said she dislikes reviews, so there are none of her anywhere. On the phone she was somewhat wary, but that might be a language barrier.

Good luck.

All Good

[Member #1062]

Thanks to all the posters and especially those that are adding details like names of the girls to their posts. It really helps the rest of us to sort things out.

I stopped by Kiku last night and asked for Tina (see previous post by madcocker). It turns out she went back to LA. This is a common occurence in other AMPs as well and to me, its kind of a drag. I'd much rather get to know someone on a regular basis as it leads to more of a GFE after a couple sessions. I know its sometimes difficult to remember names after a few brews and a night out, but it every little bit of info does help. Thanks again and stay safe!

[Punani Hunter]

Car date. She didn't know the usual downtown spots, so I'm not surprised she hails from Waiks. I would date her again, but I forgot her contact#. The hunt is on!

[JFX]

Kimchi,

Suggestion: Forget the small fries (Honolulu) and get the Value Meal (Thailand). Boyfriend for 1 hr? WTF! Try 2 or 3 hrs in Thailand. Better yet, have a girl for 1-2-3 DAYS if you like. All else equal, which do you prefer: being serviced by 2-3 girls in the comfort of your hotel room ALL NIGHT, or a "1-hour-of-attitude" quickie from a Keeamoku MP hooch? 25-35-45-85 years old, don't matter. You've got the dollars, you've got the control, you get to choose!

Okay, I'm done.

Cheers,

JFX

[Kimchi]

JFX thanks, but I travel only between the Hawaiian Islands and the States. I would love to go but am not able at this time.

[Da Max]

Any word on that girl Krista on City Vibe? She looks like she charges a lot for fbsm, but she looks hot.

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[AsiaTraveler2]

All Good;

I would be a bit leary of anyone who hates reviews. That tells me they probably don't rate well. Most excellent providers would welcome reviews .. good word of mouth, if they were any good. There's always exceptions, but that's my take.

AT2

[John Quakman]

Made a spin through downtowntonight and spotted Gabby, lookin'' good again and made the circle to grab her only to find she had been sniped away. Too bad I let her get away the other night and got aced out tonight!

Two others were milling around with her but disappeared soon also. Brunette in short shorts with nice rackage, pretty and another brunette with a nice shape but kinda big nose and freckles.

Passed until they disapeared then I gave up at 12:45. Slim picken's out there the last few days. Any body seen Sara lately? Young, 25, tall 5'10", blond, thin.

[Asianlover4u]

Where is City Vibe, I never heard of it?

[John Doe V]

Location: Kuhio Ave - 14 NOV 03 Time 0200

So many Streetwalkers walking around on Kuhio Ave. It was amazing. Didn't quite realize how blatant it was.

Met Amber she said 1 full hour, multiple shots for 2 Bucks. She's 5'7" slim trim. But for 2 bucks, that was a bit too much.

I met this Blonde Girl with braces about 5'2" very perky breasts, nice and petite, probably around 19-22 years old.

CBJ for 1.20 and I took it. Tell you what girls in Hono are much better quality than West Coast girls.

That's all for now.

Thanks for the old reports, made my trip very fun!

JD

[Da Max]

Check out city vibe.com under Hawaii, but the web address doesn't have the space between the city and the vibe.

Also, what is the quality of girls around 3am at the massage parlors? Is there a better time to go that has good looking girls without being too crowded with customers?

[Jzjz]

Downtown was slow late Sat night, but Gaby was out. That long legged blonde looked hot, but LE activity was hotter. at 2-230am, LE pulled over and talked with her for at least 30 min.

[Member #1062]

Da Max,

The quality of girls will vary from place to place depending mostly on luck or if you've found a "regular". The selection and availability of good looking girls at places like New Yorker is best at about 8:30pm on weekdays.

I like to go on Mondays while most guys are watching football at their favorite bar. Lots of girls are there waiting for them to show up after the game.

New Yorker is still my favorite because you can choose the girls in a well-lit area right when you walk in.

But I have to agree with JFX - nothing beats Thailand. One month to go and counting!

[Kimchi]

The quality of the girls are different from each massage or relaxation shop. New Uorker has the most girls but not always the best looking. Places like Rainbow 7 that rotates or changes girls you have a good chance of getting some thing new. I like the idea of getting a fresh face or a hot new bod. I asked the manager at New Yorker and China Spa and Rainbow 7 and New World they say that the New Yorker is #1 followed by China Spa, then Pine Tree and then either Rainbow 7 or New World. They ask cutomers, they ask taxi drivers and tour guides and that is the ranking from them. I keep forgetting that we are in a tourist town so that guys like us count but they rely on the tourist trade alot. I have seen taxi's drive up to the New Yorker and Rainbow 7 and drop off 3-4 guys at a time. They get busy after 2:00 am as that is when the clubs close and the guys want some action. I like going early in the day as the girls are still fresh and not weak from all the work. Of course you go to New Yorker with all the girls they have some are fresh all the time. Just some info on the business.

[Asianlover4u]

Has anyone tried Exotic Asian Delight in the Penny Saver?

Let me how she rates.

[AsiaTraveler2]

Tried Ocean Massage in Century Center. Seems like it's just a massage place w/o the extra's. They use heated stones, which was really nice, so no complaints with the massage. A couple of cuties there as well. Possibly extra's down the road, but don't count on it.

AT2

[Kimchi]

I went to Rainbow 7 last night. When you walk in most of the girls are sitting on one of the couches watching TV. I saw a couple of the girls and they were hot. I asked the manager and she said she had a few new girls. Coco is still there but was busy so I took Bebe. I had seen her before so I knew I was in good hands. The manager showed me my room and took the $50 house fee. In came Bebe and she helped me off with my clothes. She took me to the shower and gave me a very good cleaning. She cleaned every part with special attention to my rear. Back to the room she dried me off and told me to lay down face down. She started a nice massage and then went into a nice tongue bath. She gave one of the best asian I had ever had (Coco is the best). She does this for about 10 minutes and then tells me to flip. Well I was as hard as a rock and she said you big boy. I told her I was hunger so she said ok and into a 69 position. She is nice, a well kept bush and tastes good. We went at it for about 7-10 minutes and then she said what now? I said I like to come in from behind she said no annal. I said ok and we went at it then she flipped over and I was in heaven. She has a tight cat and knows how to use her muscles. I could have come a few times but slowed down to mkae it last. She said you good most guys come in 5 minutes or less you last long time. I said that I have years of practice and like to slow things down if i get too excited. She said she liked that as too many guys come quick and then just go limp on her. I said I am glad she liked it. She asked me for my number as she would like to call me some time. I gave her my card and said call anytime. She siad ok. I asked her fr her number but she said later. All in al she was well worth the tip and I will come see her again. I like Coco better she is more into the service and not treat you mechanical. Bebe is a good girl to keep and she is staying around for awhile. I like Coco's figure better 36c-22-34. I checked her bra size once when she left me for the towel. She is nice and treats you like your the king while you are in with her. Bebe does also I think she is trying to be like Coco. They stick together.

Good hunting and YMMV

[PhantomHNL]

AT2,

Thanks for the heads up on Ocean Massage, I always like to hear about new places.

I stopped by there this evening, but couldn't find it in Century Center - although I did find Hula Hands! lol

Where are they located, and do you know there hours and rates - thanks I'd appreciate it.

Well since I struck out at Century Center and didn't feel like going into Hula Hands, I stopped by King's Massage. Got a so-so massage from Nancy (40ish Korean, about a 5 in looks department). No extra's.

And from there called it a night.

And thank you to everyone for all of the awesome 411!

Phantom

[Hilo Boy]

Hey Guys,

Anyone know a provider that is Japanese or Japanese American? I saw the reviews and photos of Malia on another website but she seems to be gone.

Mahalo

[AsiaTraveler2]

Phantom;

Ocean is on the otherside by China Mary's, on the 2nd floor. It's not in the main building, but connected to the parking lot. I hope this helps. Rate is $50 for an hour.

AT2

[AsiaTraveler2]

Kimchi;

You mentioned "best asian". What is that? Heard the term before, but never saw an explanation.

AT2

[Kimchi]

AT2,

Getting asian is when the girl has you face down and gives your tail end a tongue bath. It is very stimulating and enjoyable. A few minutes of this and you will go crazy. It perks me up quickly. As I said the girls at Rainbow 7 are the best that I have had here, they beat New Yorker by a mile. The best I ever had was in Washington DC, but these girls are very close to perfect.

Enjoy and YMMV.

[Lickin Lounger]

AT2 -

"asian" means anal licking (rimming).

-LL54

Sorry guys, haven't posted in a while (been broke). Great reports though, hopefully I'll have some cash to check out some AMPs this xmas!

[Muff Diver]

I tried King's out this past weekend (first time there), I was serviced by Nancy and finished the massage session with a nice HR without the asking. I also tried to get in 1930 a couple of weeks ago, but was refused entry after being asked and answering no to "you been here before?" - may make another attempt in the future.

[AsiaTraveler2]

Thanks guys .. I guess I'm the only one that didn't know what it was! lol! I've experienced it .. just never knew it had a name.

AT2

[Country John]

My first trip to 1930 in June was amazing. For 140 I got BBFS and very GFE for an hour from a small and young Korean girl. Amazing. Very LE paranoid though - took almost 15 minutes to convince I was not LE.

My second time back in October was a totally different story. No FS, very rude and rushed after the table shower. Very strange.

Third time back in November, same story - figured they'd recognize me by then - no sir.

Wishing all in paradise a very safe and happy holiday season. Looking forward to being back in January.

Aloha

Country John

[Jzjz]

Gaby was out again in Downtown, and she looked nice. I wanted to give myself a holiday treat, but she was busier than Santa Claus on Xmas eve delivering the goods to all you who were naughty and nice. Everytime I saw her, I circled around to pick her up but she was already gone. I'll try again later to visit Gaby for my ho, ho, ho.

Anyone have feedback on her technique. I know there's a lot of you out there.

Peace, Jzjz

[John Quakman]

Crusied downtown last evening and spotted a skinny Haoulie girl with dark hair. Hopped in and said her name was Tony. We drove arond the block to discuss things and found out She had a friend named Erica that might be up for a threesome. Sure'nuff Erica said great idea! Erica is dark, short, and petite with very nice rackage and not bad looking, little worn but WTF, it was dark and the "feel" of things is what's important. We repaired to the local sleaze bag motel and had a hell of a time! Every thing was on the menu and the menu was endless untill I had my fill all for the reasonable price of $$.

[Older Guy]

First time (12-19) visit New Yorker. Entered, looked, took time then chose young cute shorter/thinner (Korean?) girl. Answered been here before questions (said "no", mama looked shocked), paid mamas $50. No price negotiated. Phoebe (5’2”) helped me undress, took to table shower, soap is scented so watch out if meeting SO later. Back to room, she left, came back, undressed, started massage. She started kind of in hurry, so pulled her on to me and told her to slow down. Took time, condom by mouth, cowgirl, pulled out & fingered clit, finished mish, she dressed, I showered again (alone this time trying to get soap scent off), back to room & she helped me dress (including socks & shoes) Sat by lamp & asked if $140 tip was good & she said okay (think she likes me and told me not to drink too much when I met my friend later) L/A/S 8.5/8.5/8.5. Next time, I’ll teach her GFE.

[Hilo Boy]

A new asian chick is coming to town in early January. Her name is Sei and she is now on Eros Hawaii. Listed at two hundred for one hour fbsm. Pictures look like she might be hot but tattoo near her ass a turn off for me.

Mahalo

[Hilo Boy]

Gave Eva on Eros a try and for 220.00 you can't beat it. She is into everything but entering inside her uncovered. Out of this world bbbjtc even swallows every drop. First class Waikiki hotel. Really looks like girl next door and is super nice person. Much cuter face than what you see on Eros. Only negatives for me were almost totally shaved, tits were on the hard side (so probably not natural) and 2 tattoo's on her back. If the latter three things work for you than she is as good as you could get.

Mahalo

[Quik2004]

I just want to say thanks for all the members that post on here. You guys are doing a great job, and really keeping people informed. I think this site really helps, especially in the TS section. I spent the weekend of the 12th in Waikiki, and did a little "sight" seeing. I saw Gabby downtown, and also the samoan named Tia. I actually talked to Tia, but being new to this was really looking out for LE. I wish I had read some of the older posts, so I would have had a good idea who I was talking to before I went.

Last, I was wondering if anyone has been to cache lately or Mistys? Also, has anyone tried the restaurant TRYST on seaside off of Kuhio? When I was cruising I saw a lot of females hanging around outside and yelling at cars. Keep up the good work.

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[Kimchi]

It seems like most of you guys are only into the SW scene. I find that scene to be too risky. Too many LE around. I like visiting the relaxation (Rainbow7) places as you get a good massage and great sex. To me going to a specific place and meeting a good provider is what I like. Just my thoughts.

[Older Guy]

To all lurkers;

I would like to urge all lurkers, to post some info. It would really help. Just a Thumbs up for an establishment, massage or AMP, etc. would help. We could all use more info .. I know there's alot of you out there.

Originally posted by AT2 on 11/17/03

[Love Sex 22]

Hi,

I am an experience monger for many years travelling the world. Currently I spend 4 months in Honolulu, 4 months in New York and 4 months in Bangkok. Needless to say that Bangkok is the place to be but I try to find the fun spots every where I am.

I am in Honolulu now and leaving for Bangkok in two weeks. Ii visited Raibow Seven but I didn't get the toung bath it was a so so experience and New Yorker its the same a lots of girls but not gfe. I like to have BBJ and none of this girl will do it.

A few months ago in Kiku some girls agree to do that but not any more. I am planning to see via from erros read in the report that she does BBJ. I hope its true, did you have to ask her for it or it was natural?

BTW I met Gabe in downtown, a very nice girl. If interested to meet her I have her tel#.
Please contact me via a private message using the WSG Forum's Private Message service and I will exchange # of a young girl like Gabe that does BBBJ with you.

Also, anyone that is planning to go to Bangkok I will be glad to meet with you. I will be there untill Feb 20.

Keep up the good work.

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[Aficionado Prime]

Hawaii Hobbyist Report 2003-12-25

Escorts:
Not my flavor, so I won’t candy coat it with BS. I don’t know because I don’t go. Nuff said.

Hostess Bars:
Filled predominately with Korean nationals, there are other races as well such as Vietnamese and Japanese. The most rampant for play are Club Tomorrow, which recently got raided, Napa Valley, Club Romantei, Sandy & Jens, Cache Lounge, Kools Lounge, New Office, Executive Club, Clubhouse to name a few. Bringing plastic to these places is not advised because you will be sorry not to mention the embarrassment you will face if the card goes bad and you are out of the almighty dollar. Finding the players are easy. Give a $100 while paying for your $3 drink and they will come and be your best friend. Initiate small talk and get your complementary rubs and talk prices. $40 HJ’s and $60 BJ’s are possible, but you must travel away from the Ala Moana area to get that action. Jealousy may incur between girls at the same bar but competition and level of service determine which one you return to again and again and again.

Strip Clubs:
Getting any action from these places, depending on which one you go to, is possible. Forget Femme Nu and Rock Za near the Convention Center. Strictly eye candy. Set your sights on lesser-traveled clubs like Misty, Club Sandy, Saigon Passion, Club Sun and Club Temptation. There is rumored action at Club Electro in Pearl City but I cannot confirm that. Use the same technique as the hostess bars and you will get somewhere. Damage is comparable in price to a hostess bar. Avoid the one near the Sports Authority. I will not say its name because I hate it with every fiber in my being. Sub-standard girls, warm beer, pathetic wait service and they charge more for admission after 2 AM. If you go here, you WILL be sorry.

Massage Parlors:
The most value for your time and money if you go to the right place and see the right girl. New Yorker has the looking girls and service but China Spa, Pine Tree, VIP, Rainbow 7 and Sophia’s are very close second. Again predominately filled with Koreans, but all flavors are available for your tastes. A good shampoo scrub followed by a real massage finished with what you came here for in an hour is a hard find these days. I remember back in 95, this was the norm, but now is sparse. Now the girls are like assembly line workers, getting the most work done in the least amount of time. Only the older ones take their take and make you feel like a king. Expect to shell out $150 to $200.

Streetwalkers:
For those who like the thrill of the hunt. Waikiki is not what it used to be a decade ago. 30+ girls walking, talking, causing accidents with their antics and attire was the case. Their region was greater then ranging as far as Royal Hawaiian Avenue to Liliokalani Avenue heavily concentrated on the corner of Kalakaua Avenue and Kaiulani Steet. Now they are reduced to less than half and converge near the Denny’s on Kuhio Avenue. Merchant Street has some hit or miss action. Trannies and real girls are the norm so look before you buy. Tia, the Samoan with the white Lexus is the real thing. The Safeway superblock as I like to call it, recently became popular. You can find Waikiki exiles and trannies here also. Expect to shell out anywhere from $80 to $150. Here’s a tip; drive a car with an automatic transmission. Driving stick will hurt after a while. Make sure the car you’re driving is 200% legal in every which way. Cops will love to pull you over if you have a broken taillight or dark tint with your choice for the evening. A flashy car with rims or a loud stereo will attract cops as well so heed my advice.

Aficionado Prime

“For every hour you wait in agony for pussy is worth every second you enjoy in pleasure for pussy.” - Me

[Muff Diver]

Anyone have any experience with Hiroko down at Century Center who runs an ad in the PennySaver? I've called a couple of times in the past and she always is booked solid.

I visited Smile Spa this past Saturday (first timer). It is a nice place, and the mama seems very nice also. I stayed a couple of hours using the sauna, massage table, and jacuzzi, had a Coke and watched some TV also. The mama checked in on me periodically, however I was never given or offered any personal treatment from the any of the ladies that seemed caught up in the karaoke room singing away the night. I may check it out again sometime if the future.

[Aloha AMP Lover]

Hi all,

Thanks for the reports, I am new here so a lot to learn. Can anyone tell me if 1930 is still in business if so what is the address, looked online but couldnt find it.

Thanks and happy hunting

[AsiaTraveler2]

Kimchi;

I agree .. SW scene seems too risky. LE + higher health risk is a big negative. Also much higher risk of getting ripped off.

AT2

[AsiaTraveler2]

Hilo Boy;

I have not experienced Eva first hand, but every review I have seen is excellent. 8's and 9's in looks and service. I did not care for her pics on her website, so your personal review helps.

AT2

[Lickin Lounger]

Are there any mongers/lurkers out there who are in there early 20s? Have you ever experienced discrimination when visiting local AMPs? I'm also in my early 20s. Once I went to Oriental Relaxation Therapy and was scolded by the mamasan for being "too young," and also for wanting a young girl. Another time I was at a place called Tokyo something (on the 3rd floor of the old RadioShack bldg near Ala Moana) and was only allowed to visit with the older girls.

Does anybody know of any AMPS where the girls/mamasan doesn't care how old/young we johns are?

Thanks for your info.

LL54

[Kimchi]

It looks like we are starting to get more reports that are productive to our hobby. We need to know the best places to go, which AMP provider gives the best service. I like visiting the AMP's and sticking with one I like. Once they get to know you then you can expect the full hour treatment, getting asian or just tell them what you want. Could be why I also tell you to visit Rainbow 7 as I love the place. It is small but my special provider treats me like I am the King for the full hour plus. Never rushed never short of what I want. That is why it is good to have that one special provider that you can call your. They will ask you for your card or number and will call you when slow or bored. I've had mine call me when she got horney. How do I know? She would start playing with herself as we got into it and she would come. That's what I like.

Good hunting and YMMV.

[Qjkl]

1930 is still in business, it's on 1930 Beretania street, next to Champion Malasadas.

[el Gringo Norte]

Aficionad Prime,

Good to see your name and post. Allways quality info. I have missed the "Getting Around In Hawaii" Board since it closed. Under AMP, You left out my favorite.... Naritta Town and Mini. But hell, I don't live on island anymore, so the quality of service may not be what it used to be.

Mahalo,

el Gringo Norte

[Kumbu]

Hi all,

I just moved here from LA a few months ago and I've been tasting the local pleasures. Here's my two bits.

The downtown scene is dodgy at best. I haven't figured out LE's angle yet, and until I do, I don't feel confortable risking anything with SWs. Besides, there is plenty of better offerings in Honolulu.

The Waikiki scene is a rip-off. Chatted to a girl on Kuhio (opposite the Ohana Waikiki West , TGIF) who wanted $250 for FS. Tried to use my wily ways to haggle her down, but it was Friday night and she wasn't in the haggling mood. This is exactly what you guys on this forum said would happen (thanks), so I blew her off and went to an AMP (see below).

Checked out the strip clubs, they're a waste of time compared to the West Coast. No lapdances, no table dances, no touching period. This was at Club Femme Nu and Rock Za (the two most touristy). Other joints are a little easier, but the quality of lady goes down dramatically. IMHO, not worth the effort.

AMP are where is'a all at. I've been to New Yorker (twice), Ranibow 7 (twice) and China Spa (once) - all fantastic. I didn't get the pleasure of a choice at any of these places (despite what some reviews on this forum said), but it was not a problem at all. In all cases, the red-tape went like this: ring the bell, let in by old Mama san, (maybe wait in the front room if it is busy, otherwise taken straight back into a room), cough up the house $50. At that point, you strip, wait for your attendee, and let the pleasure begin.

In all cases, the lady was young, Korean (although I did see some damn-fine haoles in the hallways), built like a goddess, with a decidedly so-so face. I think if you have an ugly face in Korea, you kind of have to become a "massage therapist". But the overall quality of the woman was incredibly high - much higher than anything I've experienced at any West Coast AMP. There was a small, petite girl who liked it doggie style, then another tall bombshell who liked her ass licked, then a bib-boobed girl who smothered me in her busom until I couldn't breath anytmore (wonderful). In all cases, it was a real GFE (two of the girls gave me their cell phone numbers to try and arrange an outside meeting - I haven't tried that yet).

Sometimes they dress me (shoes and socks and all), sometimes they kiss me goodbye on the lips, and sometimes they give me phone numbers, but in all cases, I left happy as can be.

My suggestion: skip the SWs, maybe even skip the escorts, you will get what you are looking for at the AMPs.

[Kokaroach]

FYI-

Hirokos massage is lame, I don't recommend.

Misty's - different location, same game. Dancers can be pretty hidious the earlier you go. Good place for quick, cheap BBBJTC.

Saw Ruby at China Spa. Nice body, and face. Real good attitude. Kind of fun. Everything about the usual. No rush. Nothing to really make her stand out. Just your basic good fuck.

Saw June at Rainbow 7. Nice ass, tight pussy and cute face. Decent "asian." Good multi postion session. Doing it standing was my favorite. No rush service.

140 to both.

New Yorker has been closed last few days. My understanding is that it has something to do with the lease.

Goodluck!

[R Nixon]

Had a chance to visit a few places.

Visited CCK massage. It is totally legit. There is even a sign on the wall that says "private parts" will be covered at all times. It was a very good massage though.

Visited Ms. Yukari for a theraputic "massage" (her quotes not mine) Thought since the massage was in quotes there might be something extra, but no, just a legit massage. She is not bad to look at though, and the massage was pretty good.

More research this weekend.

Nix

[Tsboy69]

1930 King. Just eva of McCully

[Hilo Boy]

All Good,

Do you know anything further about Nicole? If anyone else has any info on Nicole from Spain who is visiting and has an add on Eros Hawaii please shed some light. I am strongly considering the 300.00 but do not want to waste the money on a bad experience. Also is it allright if I just come out and ask her if she is into dfk and bbbjtc. If she is into both of these I will probably give it a go but since no reviews are posterd on erotic review I just don't know.

Mahalo

[Hilo Boy]

Guys,

The hottest chick I have seen in a long long time works at First Hawaiian. She goes out of her way to come over and say hello no matter where I am in the bank. What do you think would happen if I offered her the 300.00 I would be looking to pay an escort? Truthfully I do not have the balls to do that but I wish I did. Has anyone ever made an offer to a girl in a similar situation? If so how did it turn out?

Mahalo

[Kimchi]

Hilo Boy,

Which branch of First Hawaiian does she work at? I would just ask her out and see what the answer is. You may scare her if you offer her money to go out with you. Just be carefull on what you ask her out. I am glad that we are starting to get reports on different AMP's. I hope New Yorker does not close down, it is my second favorite place to visit.

Good hunting.

[Kimchi]

Kumbu,

You are one lucky dog if the 2 of the girls gave you their cell numbers. What girls? Whay shop(s)? Must be nice. I gave a couple of the girls my card and one has called me but always private name, private number. But she does call, mostly if the place is slow. But I do get to talk to her and learn some things about her. It is strange but her family does not know what she does for a living. They know she makes alot of money. She sends most of her money back to them. These girls work hard, I know she has had at least 15 men in one day. I do not know how she can do it. She blocks it out of her mind. She has strong will power.

These girls will date you but do not look for a long lasting relationship, unless you speak Korean (Hongul). You are in for a culture shock. They want to come here and get a green card but do not want to learn about us. They keep to the Korean way of thought. I have tried to teach her but she only hangs with Koreans, listens to them tell her how to do things. They do everything the Korean way. Hard to change them unless they really want to change and most do not. Let us know what happens with these girls.

Good luck.

[Da Max]

Hilo Boy,

What branch does this hot chick work at? Maybe if you ask her out while you flash $300. I don't know though, that is pretty gutsy.

[Love Sex 22]

I visited Rainbow 7 again, saw the same girl Mickey ,this time she gave me a great massage and a wonderfool tongue bath , but i couldnt convince her to BBj ,over all a nice experience.

[C Kramer]

Hilo Boy-- Sounds like you don't even need to offer this girl at FHB some money... maybe strike up a longer conversation and ask her out! You never know... even with the married ones! --Cos

[PhantomHNL]

Hilo Boy,

I agree with C Kramer, just hang out and strike up a conversation with her, who knows where that will lead.

Offering $300 (or any amount) might offend her and you may lose the chance.

Just my 2 cents.

Good Luck!

Phantom

[Quik2004]

LickinLounger54,

I am also in mid 20's and haven't had any problems. Hardly even ask how old I am, and i look young. One time in TN though, a place I went to wouldn't let my friend in because he was 20 not 21. I couldn't believe it. Things could have changed though, I haven't been in an AMP since earlier this year. I did have good times at both Rakuen and Milky Way. No hassle, got to pick the girl, and got FS for 130 including 50 for room. I can't remember the girls names, but 2 were 7-8, one older one younger. The first one at Milky Way was a 9. She was Filipino, and probably around early 30's. Had the total package.

Anyways, happy huntin to all.

[Tsboy69]

New Yorker is no more.

Closed it up just a few days ago. Where are the girl who were 'living' there to go? Too bad..hopefully mama will reopen somewhere soon. IMHO this place had the best stable of waihine.

[Lickin Lounger]

Chilled at Exotic Nights (across from Sports Authority, around the corner from Rainbow 7 - World Relaxation - VIP) couple nights ago. Paid the $7 cover, had a couple of domestic lite beers. Sat at the stage near the ATM because there were some lonely girls there -- the other stage (by the bar) was filled with other dudes. Got a couple of dances. One from a korean lady in her late 20s/early 30s with D cups. Another from a local/filipino girl, maybe mid-20s with C's. This girl had highlights in her hair, shapely ass. She let her hair hang down on her tits which rubbed my face during one dance. Man I wanted to suck them!! Got a third dance from a younger girl -- i think hapa/chinese perhaps -- also with C's. She could have been early 20s or even around 18-19. Sweet girl, but I can't remember her name, but we went back to a booth and I bought her a drink. Got some nice conversation and a crotchrub and that's about it. There was only one girl there that didn't catch my eye (on that stage near the ATM) -- a young flat-chested Japanese girl. Actually nobody was going for her either; after a few songs she rolled up her mat and went to the backstage. Anyways, when I left, I was going to stop in at VIP or Rainbow 7 but I saw a bunch of guys heading up there right ahead of me. I guess I get chickenskin and pussy out if I'm going to see other guys up there at the same time, so I decided to put it off for another night.

All in all, I spent about $10 per girl in singles for each dance.

I would have gone tonight but then it started raining too hard. (Yea I know I'm a wuss).

Anyways, sorry to hear about the New Yorker. Has anyone tried Mahalo? I saw a discount coupon in the Honolulu Advertiser (morning paper) for them the other day...

Catch yall later... drive safe, the HPD got DUI checkpoints all over the island.

-LL54

[Pattayadiver]

New Yorker Closed?

Ok guys I need some help. I have been out of the Country (Japan) for the last month. I need a cute young asain girl escort or AMP ASAP. Usually mid day is best, any suggestions would be great. And If anyone is planning a trip to Japan let me know, I will fill you in.

Thanks

[Crazy Jim Wood]

CS,
Don't waste your money on an escort--there are plenty of AMPs--I have reported on a half dozen in November (do a forum search with my name to find them) all with maps, just cruise around until you find one that is right.
Or, if you are familiar with the Moose, Scruples area, take a walk toward Denny's on Kuhio and follow it until you find a SW who suits your fancy (should only set you back 1$--less than the AMP). Not many oriental SW but lots of nice white girls.

[Qjkl]

LickinLounger54,

A few years back, when I was in my 20's and a newbie, the mama would tell me I'm too young, and would send the muggliest girl into my room. I figured out that they think that young guys aren't that experienced, so they can get away with sending the fattest girl in the place and because you're young and new, you'll be happy to be getting anything. If you get past the mama and into the room, I would just keep sending the old ladies back until they realize you mean business and will send you someone younger. Some of my youngest and best experiences have been with girls sent in after I turned 3-4 away.

[Member #1062]

CS,

It looks like the rumors are true. NY is closed, at least for now.

I would go to Rainbow or Pinetree. I've tried Mahalo (not good) and Rakuen and 1930 (inconsistent).

As always, until you find a regular and she gives you her cell number, your mileage may vary.

Stay safe.

[Lickin Lounger]

Quik2004,

Good to hear about another young monger out there. We're the next generation! Still though -- I guess it's weird/coincidence that I get "carded" by the mamasan at the door? Or is that for everybody, to check somehow to make sure we're not LE? I prefer to leave as much personal/identifying info in the car as I can, usually taking in only my $$ and my ID to the AMP. But if I could leave my ID in the car, that'd be even better.

Oh well. Planning to hit up VIP or Rainbow 7 this week, so a report will be coming soon, I hope!

LL54

[Lickin Lounger]

This might be a little off-topic.

But I was just thinking. (And I know I haven't contribued recently to the AMP scene). But you know what might help us sort out all this info on AMPs? If we made a chart, with checkboxes or something that would be easy to read. That way we'd know and could keep track of which AMPs have table shampoos and which don't. Or AMPs that have non-asian masseuses (since those are more rare). And the average price for extras. And then I guess we could do the same kind of thing for the hostess/strip clubs in town and in Waikiki. You know, set an example for the guys on the other boards. And it'd be a one-stop "cheat sheet" to AMPs in the Honolulu area.

Just a thought.

By the way, has anyone read/heard of the book "Buy Me Drinkee: Hostess Bar 101"? It's a review guide of Honolulu hostess bars. Published locally, and apparently only available at The Coffee Factory -- corner of King & Keeaumoku, on the mauka-ewa street corner. I was reading about it online but haven't had the chance yet to pickup a copy for myself.

Here's the book review from the Star-Bulletin:
http://starbulletin.com/2003/11/07/features/barfly.html

Or you can check out the book's (VERY brief) website: http://www.buymedrinkee.com/

It almost sounds like this book would go hand-in-hand with the WSG board and our hobby!!

-LL54

[Aloha AMP Lover]

Here is my report: even though this was couple months ago. I went to Mahalo around 3 am in the morning. Same routine, I showed the coupon and was told that it is only accepted during the day so I coughed up 40 and then the girls came one by one, There were only 2 of them:) A haole and an older korean woman. I picked the haole becasue she was younger, a mistake. She is blonde big boobs, probably fake, cant remember her name, she asked how much I had, I said 80. She said ok we will have fun. She proceeded to give me blowjob while I was expecting fs. I said: can I get fs for 20 more she hesitated and said ok. one of the worst fucks I had, she didnt let me touch her boobs at all missionary postion and very much rushed. I wont recommend this place to anyone unless you are desperate.

Happy hunting

[Kimchi]

Is New Yorker closed for good? Was it the lease or what? That place was a gold mine. I hope it doesn't mean that landlords are going to start getting tougher with who they rent to. As you know I like Rainbow 7 but it can be intimidating when you have all those guys standing outside in front of the Hibiscus Club. I found that if you can down the side street you can come up the back way less intimidating. You go past the other shop which always seems to be not busy. The girls are not out front like at Rainbow 7. You walk in the first door not the door you that is closed and you can check out the girls working. It is their relaxation room. They watch tv and eat there. If a slow night you could get a peak at all of them at once. The place is small but I still like it. I have never had a problem and the girls do work hard for you. Too bad about the New Yorker. Does any body know the owner? They can call her and see what gives.

Good hunting.

[Kimchi]

Most of the girls (if not all) who work at one of the local AMP's will not give a BBBJ. I have read were some of you want or expect it. Remember that these girls may see up to 10 guys a day. They want to live a long life so do not expect any BBBJ's from them. It is for their health but also for yours. Be kind to them and they will be kind back. They treat you very good to begin with. How many of you have had this type pf treatment from your wife or girl friend? Not too many.

Just my thoughts.

[Kimchi]

LL54 how about posting a rating system for the working girl at the local AMP? That way we could see who is the best at FS, or asian, or CBJ or what ever. I think that would be a good asset to have on this board. What do you guys think?

[Ashy Guy]

Recently discovered this forum. I have been travelling to Honolulu fairly regularly and have been reading the posts here to try and find reliable information. The general impression that I see is AMPs are the best bet and stay away from the SWs in Waikiki. However, I am more curious about the Hostess bars. Have gone in a few and bought a couple of drinks and gotten the basic touchy feely type thing. One gave me her phone number and wanted me to come to her place for $$. Didn't have the cash so I passed. My question is what can be expected in most of these places. For example I was in Saigon Passion and was told I could go to the back room for $$. What can I expect for that? Seems to be about the same price as an AMP when you count the entrance fee. Also how is the tip determined at most AMP. Seems like in some posts the tip is discussed up front and other are done after the service is complete.

I see the posts about now paying much to help keep the prices low, but I haven't found (at least not yet) a basic guide to tipping.

For example would probably be nice to see:

SW Waikiki - HJ ?? BJ $$ FS$$
AMP
Hostess
etc.
Other Info:
Merchant Street - possible TS

Thanks and I appreciate all the reports that everyone has made. Should be there in a few weeks and hope to contibute back to everyone.

[Love Sex 22]

Checked the action Downtown last night around 1 am, a lots of police activity and girls, managed to pick up this girl Dennis she told me that the cops looking mostly for drug deallers, got a BBBJTC for fifthy, she did it exactly as I asked her. She is like 5,7 slim nice naturall breast face like 6 bbbj 9. Have faith.

[Hilo Boy]

Question for all,

Why does it seem that everyone on this board is so pro amp and anti escort? I have found many amp's to treat you like dirt. Rush you in and rush you out. An average at best looking chic that makes you come as fast as possible and sends you on your way. On the other hand an escort from eros hawaii or escorts in hawaii or even volcano girls seems the best way to go. You get pictures and reviews that help you decide. It seems to me that the money you spend on a eva or courtney is much better spent than what you get at an amp. Am I missing something here?

Mahalo

[Blue X]

One thing that inhibits me from picking up a nice Waikiki SW is the people that are walking by. At what hour does Kuhio get pretty much desolate except for SW's? Also, what are Waikiki SW's going rate? I've read different posts saying that you can't find anything less than 200. All I am looking for is a CBJ with the girl nude. Is that possible for 80 or a 100?

Which side streets (perpendicular to Kuhio and in between Kuhio/Kalakaua and Kuhio/Ala Wai Canal) can you find SW's walking around?

Thanks

One more note: I was driving around behind the Longs by the Pali Hwy. and I think all I saw were TS's. As I circled back a cop car was flashing its lights at an SUV.. Oh and I saw black cop SUV parked right at the corner where the girls were at. Oh well

[Lickin Lounger]

Visited VIP Spa (across from Dixie Grill, behind the Rainbow 7/World Relaxation building) tonight.

I tried to negotiate a $40 entrance fee but the mama-san insisted on "new management" and that she would only accept $50.

My masseuse was a slender young Korean gal named Mimi -- about 5'5", A-cups, in her mid-20s. When I asked the mama-san which girls were available, she said "Chinese, Japanese, and Korean" -- although I saw an older haole woman in the lobby area. Unfortunately no Filipinos -- my preference. I didn't see the Chinese or Japanese girls but I did see two other Korean girls. Both were much taller (around 5'9") and thicker. One of these had large C/D implants and the other was flat as a washboard. I decided to stick with Mimi.

The house fee included a body shampoo -- Mimi stripped me naked but kept her clothes on and used the handheld showerhead (they didn't have those tables with the jetsprays on the side here). She also got on top of me (while I lay on my stomach) and massaged me good with her knees. Occasionally (when I flipped onto my back) would she brush my cock "accidentally." When I would touch with my own hand, she would move my hand away and say "Honey! What are you doing?!"

After the body shampoo, we went back to the room for the table massage. Same drill -- Mimi massaged my backside first. Straddling my body, she started blowing softly in my ear and nibbling on my earlobe. Soon she was giving me a tongue bath and some "asian".

Now for the bad news. As it turns out, I didn't bring enough money with me for FS. Stupid me, only had $40. So I thought I could negotiate a HJ. Mimi wouldn't accept. She insisted that I go to the ATM at Sports Authority. I wanted to take my $40 with me but she wouldn't let me.

Anyways, went to the ATM only to realize (fuck!) that I left all my plastic at home. So then I was trying to debate whether to go back to the AMP and ask for my cash back (which I figured they wouldn't give back to me) or to just call it a night.

Long story short: I went back to the AMP and Mimi insisted on giving me a HJ for my troubles, even though I didn't have the cash for FS. She told me to come back later this week for some, but I don't know if I'll go back -- she was a nice girl, but she wasn't THAT hot.

Overall: Looks = 6.5, Attitude = 9.5, Body Shampoo = 8, Massage = 8. I won't rate "value" or "experience" since it was my fault that I didn't have enough cash or plastic for the full ride.

-LL54

[Lickin Lounger]

Long night for me.

Also checked out Rock-Za across from the Convention Center. Cover is $7, includes two drinks. (Good deal -- in comparison: Exotic Nights is $10 + $1/drink). Bad news: not so many girls dancing (only had 2-3 per stage) vs. tons of guys. Could have been that I went late -- about an hour before closing up until 'last call' ... didn't really see any ladies that I liked either; saw 2 Koreans (mid 30s, one flat, one busty) and a haole lady. There was also a cute filipino girl but she was pretty busy the whole time I was there. Oh well, better luck next time.

-LL54.

[Kumbu]

Kimchi,

The two cell phone numbers I got from the girls from New Yorker are now dead. Actually, they're not dead, but I always get the voicemail and no one replies to the messages I leave. Very worrisome.

I went down to check out New Yorker myself to see if it really is out of business, and alas it's closed. I went over to Pine Tree and there was a new Mama San - an old Korean lady chewing gum and smoking at the same time (!). She looked me up and down for a good 10 seconds before saying that she would get me a 'very nice girl.' Anyway, I got Mimi (typical stage name for Korean AMP workers) - she said she was mid-30s, but I think that was a about 5 years off. Anyway, she was in good shape, except she had a cigarette burn right on her back - some sicko must have done that to her.

Did the usuals (undress, body shampoo, mouth rinse), and then she started the massage - not a bad nexk and upper body massage. She asked if I had been to a 'plce like this' before, and I told her yes - to New Yorker. Then I said to her that New Yorker recently closed, and I asked her what she knows about that. She said she didn't know why it closed, but she said she was very surpised when she heard about it. So then we did our thing - CBJ, DATY, Mish, then finishing in doggie. Afterwards we talked until the Mama san outside screamed for us to finish (talking was about 20 minutes, total was just over an hour). $130 + $50 entrance = $180 total.

Ashy Guy, as far as negotiations are concerned, some girls will ask for the money up-front, others will not say a single word about money and rely on your good sense to reward them. Even the girls who want money up front will not talk exact amounts, they might say something like 'pay first', but not $xx for FS, $yy for CBJ, etc. I suggest you follow the guidelines on this board - FS is worth something between $100 and $150, although that varies by estabslishment and provider. Other activities are generally less - check out what others have paid for these things.

So the bad news from all of this is that New Yorker is actually closed. Kimchi, you are right - that place was definitely the best AMP around here by far, let's hope something like that comes back to Honolulu.

[Kumbu]

Hilo Boy,

I agree with you that escorts are not as bad a deal as it appears on this board. I've only ever had one experience with an escort (in Los Angeles) and it was FAN-tastic. I think the reason why AMPs are so popular is because it doesn't involve too much planning or forethought, and often escorts are a little more expensive than an AMP. That's especially true if you are looking for something less than FS - an escort will charge you her fee irrespective of whether you have FS or a CBJ. The upside of an escort is that you have photos to look at before hand, and you get access to detailed reviews from various escort review websites.

[PhantomHNL]

Hilo Boy,

I hear ya!

I've been looking at the escort scene as well. Eva, Courtney, or even Erin (which seems to be the best, and charges for it) even places like velvetropeprod.com have all been on my radar. Although, I've been looking around and trying to do enough research before taking the leap. I want to make sure that my first adventure in this area is a memorable one. I'm looking for an escort at least an 8 in looks, and a super personality. A true GFE, that I'll forget that it's a service. The money I'm flexible with although I don't think I can afford Erin's rates.

If I find anything I'll pass the info along, as I know everyone else is doing the same. The more information the better informed we all are and can avoid some bad situations (and costly ones).

Aloha

[Member #1062]

For some of the recent questions, here are some answers based on my general experience.

For Ashy Guy, local prices are usually about $50 HJ, $100 BJ (almost always covered as Kimchi stated) and $150 for FS.

Thanks Hilo Boy, for your info on Eva and Courtney. I think most guys go to AMPs because its predictable, easy and convenient. No phone call is needed and the routine is generally the same at every location. Once you find a "regular" or two, the service isn't so rushed.

The ads for escorts in the yellow pages or websites look inviting, but I haven't pursued it because I didn't know what I'd wind up with. However, with your recommendations, I would definitely consider that option. The money isn't that much more and you probably get a much better experience.

LL - Its rare that RockZa is that quiet. It usually starts kicking about 9pm and the parking lot is almost always full. Beware when parking near the Ala Moana hotel. If you don't feed the meter or park in the marked stalls, your car will be promptly towed to Sand Island where you will have to pay $100+ cash only.

[Ken Kelova]

Blue X,

Waikiki gets pretty slow after about 2 am. Those ladies are hard core though. You have to be pretty smooth to get what you want from them, but I would suggest you be careful coz these ladies will take you for a ride and leave you with nothing. Some people I know have been lucky and hooked up with real nice girls but most of them I think are hard nosed pros.

Good luck.

PS: There is this tall dark skinned beauty whom I had a while back, but I still see here there. You might wanna give her a shot. She's tall and got some curves that just don't quit!

[Quik2004]

Coming over to Oahu in mid January to do some hunting. After all the great posts, I am definetly looking forward to checking out some old spots and some new spots.Does anyone have any info on Club By Me on King or Hawaii By Night on Kuhio.They are both strip clubs, but I haven't heard anything about them. Also what about Chinatown? I heard there have been some problems down there, but last time I was over, I walked around and saw some bars and smaller clubs in that area. Is it a bad neighborhood??Looking forward to reading new posts all the way until I head over.

Catching and throwing back!

EDITOR's NOTE: Posting of this report was delayed pending revisions to capitalize the word "I". To avoid future delays, please refrain from using "i" instead of a capital "I" to refer to yourself in future reports. Thanks!

[Kimchi]

It looks like we need to find another New Yorker. I know the owner of Rainbow 7 (maybe why I like it so much) and I will talk to her about getting better service or better girls. I may also ask her to move to the old New Yorker site. Of course we need to know why New Yorker went out of business. If just the lease was up then maybe we can work on that. I do not know. I have thought about opening up a place but i do not think too many guys would come if a guy was the greeter. Plus i have hung around Rainbow 7 and another place and the working girls do not like it too much (not even Korean guys hanging around). Who knows? Let me know what your thoughts are guys. I am willing to open up a place. I have some connections to working girls who I can call and bring in. Let me know.

[Kimchi]

One last thought on New Yorker. How big was it? I do not remember. Is it bigger than Rainbow 7? Does it have a for rent sign on it yet? I am on the mainland for the next few weeks so I cannot go look at it. Can some one help me out with any info. I will remember you if I open it up. It might be nice to have a guy owner. I know what we want. Give me some feed back guys.

[Sun Luck Kid]

Quick2004:

Club By Me is located on South King Street across the street from the First Hawaiian Bank. It is owned and operated by Sandy (who is also the owner of Sandy's!) The usual bartender is Jessica who is Sandy's daughter and is pretty nice. The place is similar to Sandy's in that there are booths to buy girls drinks as well as a stage for girls to dance. Only one girl is dancing at a time and the talent is usually not that great. The girls are a little heavier then you would usually find at other strip clubs. The last time I was in there there was one petite attractive filipino girl but I didn't get a chance to see her dance. She was also probably over 30. Buying drinks for the ladies gets you the usual attention and it seems that it could go further, but I've never experienced it first hand. I would imagine that the services available would be similar to Sandy's.

Hawaii By Night is Located on Kuhio Avenue in Waikiki on the second floor near Fusions. It is a non-drinking establishment and therefore has the more traditional lap dances available. I read the following report somewhere but to be honest, I have never been as positive about the talent there as this reviewer.

>>Found this club while cruising-through Waikiki. If you're not
>>paying attention, you'll walk righ past it at 2270 Kuhio Avenue.
>>It's right upstairs from a porno store and right next door to
>>Fusions. I doubt they get many customers there.
>>
>>I got there at about midnight, so I don't know what time they
>>opened, but I think they stay open until 2am. I've gone by this
>>place before at various times and they hadn't been open. I
>>don't know why.
>>
>>You walk up this steep flight of stairs to the counter where the
>>doorguy charges you $7 and stamps the back of your hand so
>>you can re-enter if you leave some time before closing. They
>>don't serve alcohol there - a good thing, due to those stairs -
>>but they can sell you a can of soda for $1. No liquor sales also
>>means: No Liquor Commission Ispectors. They have no waiters
>>there, so you have to come back to the cashier if you want to
>>get another soda. They also sell non-alcohol beers.
>>
>>After you get past the cashier, you'll notice a pool table and
>>foosball table to your left as you get to another steep flight of
>>stairs to get to the part of the club where the dancers are.
>>
>>the third floor, where the dancers are, is a small, cramped
>>area with one large stage which has several backless benches
>>placed around it. There are also booths to your right as you
>>enter, where customers can also sit and another bench placed
>>along the wall by the stairs.
>>
>>There are also several booths along the left side of the club
>>where they do lapdancing. I don't mean "private shows", like
>>they do at Centerfolds or Deja Vu, I mean full-on lapdancing,
>>with the girls doing the bump-and-grind on you while they sit
>>on your lap! Just like the good old days! I glanced int one of
>>the booths after one of the girls had just walked out and saw
>>the guy in there wiping-off his cock with some kleenex. Yep,
>>just like the old days! I heard different costs from different
>>girls for these lapdances: either $25 or $30 per song, so YMMV.
>>
>>They only seemed to have two girls at the time, but they were
>>both hotties, IMHO. I'd say they were higher quality girls than
>>you might expect in hole-in-the-wall club like this one.
>>Definately Femme Nu or Rock Za quality. I saw no dogs in the
>>house that night.
>>
>>Music is played by a deejay in the far back corner of the room.
>>Music waan't bad, but the guy doing the deejay work
>>obviously wasn't a professional, like Deja Vu or Centerfolds
>>has, I couldn't understand what he was saying, since he
>>seemed to be whispering on the microphone. I guess it
>>doesn't matter, since you don't expect a quality deejay deejay
>>in a place like that.
>>
>>I went to the bathroom before I left and found them to be
>>filthy. No hand towels or soap and no door on the men's room.
>>Low-class with little concern for the privacy or cleanliness of
>>the male customers, but I wasn't expecting much anyway.
>>Thank God they have toilet paper! If you plan to go there, I
>>advise bringing in some handy wipe cloths to wipe-off the
>>toilet seat and clean your hands.
>>
>>If they have more girls on the weekend, this is a good club to
>>go to if you're in Waikiki some night and don't feel like going to
>>Deja Vu and you don't want to go all the way over to Rock Za,
>>Femme Nu, etc. Cover is lower than Deja Vu and the drinks are
>>way cheaper, but the quality of the girls are good. The only
>>bad thing to say is that I don't think they spent a lot of time
>>worrying about their customers comfort (the benches), safety
>>(those goddamned stairs!), or cleanliness (the filthy bathroom).
>>
>>This club doesn't seem to have a lot of class, but it's cheap.

[Sun Luck Kid]

Quick2004,

I would also suggest you check out Saigon Passion III. It was really bad for a while, but seems to have gotten better recently. There is a nice petite Vietnamese girl named Tiffany that offers extras either in the booth or in the back room. She of course pushes for the champagne room for $$$ but you should probably avoid that at all costs because I doubt FS is even offered. If you can wait around until almost closing time and catch her at the end of the night you can bargain for a pretty cheap HJ for around $.4 or even $.2 if you are lucky. I witnessed this the other night when she left some guy that was buying her drinks all night and then sat in the booth directly behind me with another guy that was pushing the $.2 HJ. I am not certain what he eventually paid.

Another pretty nice girl is Kina who is quite friendly even after buying her a single drink. My friend sat with her the other night and she would allow groping almost immediately. He never attempted to take it any further, but I'm sure extras were available.

Overall, I thought both girls were pretty nice and seemed to want to give their customers a little value for their $.2 drink which is pretty rare these days. For example, Tiffany has a younger cousin over from Vietnam (Sing Lee or Hing Lee?) that doesn't offer anything for your money and although she seems sweet, there just isn't much value for your money. Also, there is a really attractive new local girl at Sandy's that my friend sat with the other night that didn't even attempt to communicate let alone get friendly. She just sits there and seems to sulk while she sips her $.2 glass of coke. A complete rip off. If you really want to check this girl out, I would suggest buying her a private dance in the back booth for the $.2 and see if there is any interaction. I offered to buy my friend the private dance the other night but he didn't want to waste an extra minute with her.

[Kumbu]

Quik2004,

Club By Me is on King st, next to Bizen (the healthy Japanese restaurant) just past Long's or the left side of the street. Parking is easy - right next to the place as you pull in. As for the club itself, it's not much. It's a small hole in the wall, a couple of ladies milling around, usually pretty dead. I've been there twice - the first time was pure curiosity and I wasn't too impressed. I went back thinking that maybe I went on a bad night, but both times it was dead. I wont be back, but that's just me. I don't know much about Hawaii by Night, sorry.

[Ken Kelova]

Chinatown is ok but there are a lot of crackheads walking about. Don't think it's a prime spot to find SW's. I don't know too much about the strip clubs you mentioned but Club Rock Za is pretty good. It's on Kapiolani Blvd close to the convention center. Exotic Nights is pretty good too. Haven't been there in a while so I may be wrong.

Have fun!!

[Lickin Lounger]

Quik2004,

I'd avoid Chinatown unless you're into the druggy SW crackho scene or TS/TVs. Locally it's also known as kind of a bad neighborhood.

LL54

[Lickin Lounger]

Hilo Boy,

I prefer AMPs over escorts because of the convenience & "the hunt". I dont like to host at my place because I still live with my family. And AMPs are always available, while escorts you may have to book ahead of time. Also, sometimes I don't want FS and to pay $300 or more for less-than-FS is too much.

Also, I like the services that AMPs provide: the table shampoo, the body massage, the warm towels. AMPs are still spas, but with beautiful girls and sometimes "extras." Plus, the fact that AMPS are regular businesses means that there's an automatic "play innocent" cover in case the need for one arises. "What?! Who, me? Nah, I just like get one massage"

Another reason why I haven't gone for the escort scene is that most of the reviews/ads I've seen for them are for haole providers. I'm more into the asian scene. No doubt there are asians out there who escort.

I also like how you can pick and choose your girl at AMPs - where as with escorts, you need to trust the agency operator. And, even though you can send an escort back if she's not to your choosing, that adds extra time to the whole process.

And (last reason) - I guess I'm kind of paranoid but I get freaked out by the thought of an LE sting when calling an escort or going to an in-call escort's place.

Anyways. I totally respect all of you who are into escorts, but as for me I'll stick with AMPS. Hit me back with some comments, everybody.

Happy new year!

LL54

[Best Lover]

Hi everyone,

Recently discovered this forum.

I just recently moved to Honolulu. Anybody who is local and wants to hook up for a drink and fun let me know. I usually go on weekdays when the girls are not so tired - use to go to the place across Conv. Ctr. behind the strip bar ( forgot the name ) but the new young mama-san did not want to take charge of the mediocare service provided by some of the girls. Now, I am a regular at Kiku - FS for $100 after $50 for mama, but the turnover is so high that when I go, I do not know what I will find. Last time
I was with Yoko - not bad at all. The best was Hana but she left for L.A. Once tried Rainbow 7/ World Relaxation ( there are next to each other and forgot in which one I ended up), mama promised same service and price as Kiku but the tall Korean girl - 9 refused to give me the body shampoo for that price. Then, she asked $150 for FS but I told her that I am leaving for Kiku - she went down to $120 but I was ready for that and showed her that all I have is $100 and another $27 for my dinner. Hugging and touching me she slowly took out the $20 bill and told me that I will not regret the service. She had very nice body and I went for it. She really was very hot but wanted to do the sex position according to what will wind up in her mind in very commending way. True, I did do anything I did not enjoy. Tight pussy and firm very good size boobs was something not to miss. After we finish I told her that she needs to give the shower and massage service so the fun is complete and she said that next time she will do it
because now she knows well - I always treat the girls with very big respect. Sorry, do not remember her name and I could not see her when I passed by after 3-4 w. She was with dark hair, sexy red dress, around 5'6'- 5'7'. If you know her, send me a message on the private board.

Happy New Year!

[Hilo Boy]

Guys,

Have heard great things about Caressa at Volcano Girls. Have been told that she is really into her job and will do anything the guy wants and I mean anything. Checked out her photos on that web site and she is ok looking but not great. Can't really tell a whole lot about her body but it could be kinda hot. Most reviews have been A+ but one said he felt rushed. Anyone else have info on this chic?

Mahalo

[Hilo Boy]

Question for the board.

How old is the oldest provider anyone knows of here locally? When I saw Mia (who was bad) at Pearl City Relaxation one of the other workers came into the room I was using by mistake. She had to be at least 65-70 years old and looked it. She then went into the next room and you could hear her really working this guy. Is this unusual? Who would pay for this?

Mahalo

[AsiaTraveler2]

My 2 cents on some recent posts ..

AMP's vs Escorts. AMP's are much more convenient. No scheduling work to be done, convenient parking, etc. Price is lower. You can get just a HJ, if that's all that you want for that night. Escorts will charge you one rate regardless of what happens. Some Escorts charge $200-$225, but the norm is more like $300+. I have yet to experience an Escort that provided any better service than a good regular at the AMP's, so the extra $$ just don't seem to be worth it.

Hotel Street. I have a very low opinion of the place. It's a dive .. no other way to describe it. SW's, Drug action, LE, etc. I understand some people like the "rush" that the environment provides, but I'm not one of them. STD's would also be a greater risk in that environment.

Club By Me .. kind of a dive. Would recommend either Femme Nu or Rock Za.

Hawaii by Night .. tourist trap.

VIP .. Not crazy about the "new" management. Would not recommend.

Sorry for the negative tone of this post, but alot has been said recently about the good stuff, so just wanted to provide some of the flip side.

AT2

[Quik2004]

Hi all,

Just wanted to say thanks for all the follow up posts. It's great to be able to get a local look at places before you waste valuable time checking them out.Club By Me is definetly out of the picture, but I will probably stop by Hawaii By Night just to see. I know that I am gonna go by Saigon Passion for sure.Have heard other things about it from other friends too. Did anyone ever follow up on the post earlier about Scruples. One guy asked if anyone knew about sw's working in the club. Anyways, two weeks and counting.

Happy Hunting all, but please leave some for me!

[Quik2004]

Kimchi,

I think a monger running an AMP would be a great idea. You know what we want, and reasonable prices. I'm sure you would be well known and make big bucks. Heck you could call it The WSG Meeting Place.

Last but not least, Jackson is my new hero. You guys think that if all the members here wrote to Time Magazine, they would make him 2004's Man Of The Year? Just checking.

I'll settle for "Monger of the Year".

Thanks,

Jackson

[Kanda]

Just got back from Honolulu and tried out World Relaxation in the same building as Rainbow 7. Big mistake and big rip-off. Stay away.

[John Quakman]

Kimche,

The New Yorker space is nearly 2X the space of Rainbow 7 with 7 rooms vs 5 but 2 shower rooms and several "back" rooms for the girls. The landloard hasn't decided to try and rent as is or modify the space. They could not reach an agreement on the rent with the old tenants. PM me if you need any assistance further

[Hilo Boy]

Guys,

In Los Angeles amp's are very standard private home or business set up. Prices are mostly universal 40 hj (add 20 if nude), 60 bj, 80 fs. You go right to the room (no shower down) undress and after anything from a great massage to something less someone will bring up the extras.

Since I am new to Hawaii I really need a heads up on how I should handle the local amp scene. I would appreciate it if you answer these questions. Where do you recommend that is near downtown as opposed to Waikiki (I am in Ko Olina)? What amount should I offer as a tip for extra service, hj, bj, etc? Once the mama takes me to a room what should happen next, do I play dumb and let the girl take over? Finally where do I go that I might get dfk and bbbjtc?

Mahalo

[Hilo Boy]

Happy New Year,

When I first started visiting amp's about twenty years ago in California, it was a standard $25 which got you a great one hour massage that included a long HJ the last several minutes. Tipping was optional. A couple of the girls would even force me to feel them up since I was too shy to ask for anything. One time I was in a room and could hear a woman in the next door getting a massage. Do not know if she was into getting extra service but I did hear her tell the masseuse that she would like her massage be extended from a half hour to a full hour. Thought this was a bit weird but mostly erotic that a women would be in an amp getting serviced.

Can women go into an amp locally and get serviced? Back in the good old days my wife was willing to join me once in a while for some fun. Never did figure out the amp thing for couples so we stuck with outcall. We are now both in our fourties and the passion is not what it was. So it may be hard to talk her into this again but I may just try once more. Does anyone know a girl from a local amp that would do a couple? If not how about an escort that is really bi?

Mahalo

[Kumbu]

Kimchi,

It would rock if you could open up your own AMP!

New Yorker was (as John Quakman says) seven rooms plus two shower rooms and the back rooms for the girls. Plus they had the small front room with the white couches and the two security cameras. The key to New Yorker was that it had lots of girls (in sheer numbers but also body types and ethnicities), and most of them were younger than 30. If you could replicate something like that, you couldn't lose. I know I wouldn't have a problem being greeted by a guy.

[Kumbu]

Hilo Boy,

My advice on the AMP scene is play it by ear. My (limited) experience with AMPs here in the islands is that they differ in how they operate, but not by that much.

Go in there knowing that you are going to get what you want. If you seem nervous or timid it might raise suspicions. My suggestion is that you have your money situation all worked out and prepared before you go in: have the house $50 in pocket #1, and then however much you want to spend for extras in pocket #2. All the rest of your cash and other stuff should be in other pockets. Once you are shown to a room, expect to fork out the house $50, so reach into pocket #1 and just hand it over. (Exit Mama san, never to be seen again).

You should immediately undress down to the underwear (I leave this on just to appear modest) and put the towel around your waist. The provider will then come in and you get your first look at her. This is where I always have a problem: if she isn't quite what I wanted, I don't have the ability to say "No". I mean, it seems awefully rude to say "No thanks, I want someone else". But I guess this is where you have to do it, if it's in you. This is also where she may ask you to pay. At this point you should reach into pocket #2 and hand it over. This is just my approximations and are by no means hard-and-fast rules, but I would say that $150 is standard full service FS - multiple positions, GFE, perhaps DATY (depending on provider), but never anal. $120 might get you FS, but it wont be as GFE-like and she wont be as happy about it. $80-$100 might get you a CBJ, and $40-$60 might get you a HJ. As far as I'm concerned, BBBJ is not a good idea. I prefer it when the girl refuses BBBJ because it means she is safer and less likely to have any STDs. As for DFK, I've never asked and never been offered, so I don't have any info on that, sorry. Let me stress again that these are my guidelines and should not be seen as the industry standard.

But she may not ask for any money at this point, in which case you go through the shower routine and then later you basically ask for what you want. Afterwards you pay as per the above rates.

She will instruct you to take off your underwear and you then walk out to the shower room. The table shower will take 5 minutes and is usually pretty business like. She is checking you out, seeing if you act suspiciously, if you are willing to have your boys rubbed or not. If you freak out at this point then it's a good sign that you are not going to want any hanky-panky.

She then dries you off, and on the way back to the room you stop by a sink for some mouth wash.

Back in the room, she will instruct you to lie down and relax while she goes out. She comes back a few minutes later, and then my favourite part of the whole experience: she drops her clothes off. Usually she makes you lie on your front first, so you don't really get a full, relaxed view of her beauty, but there usually is a mirror on the wall that gives you a perfectly good view.

So the massage starts, and this can vary from being a real muscle massage to just a faint-hearted skin rub. But at some point she might do the Asian for you, or she might start to lick your ears, both of which are excellent cues for you to get your motor started. You then do what you came to do, and afterwards she will take care of the mess.

You may end up talking for a while afterwards (depending on her level of English and the amount of tip you give), and then she dresses you and you are done. The only thing left for you to do is to report back to the WSG Forum.

[AsiaTraveler2]

Quik2004;

Just and FYI .. Saigon has changed alot over the last 10 years or so. It was a hot place at one time, then fell off dramatically and was basically the lowest of the low for several years. I have not visited the place in 2003, but I did hear it got a little better. Set your expectations low, though. If the info you got from friends is more than 5 years old, then they did not see the dive that it turned into. As a strip club can't recommend, but if you are looking into some cheap side action, then I guess it's worth a look.

AT2