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Citrus1999
11-07-24, 17:42
His thread is what brought me to the site in the first place, I followed it all the way to the end and have lurked ever since. Was surreal to see him end up that way.

Over the years I've enjoyed your posts, Ace's, Baldys, and lots of others (GoldenMan was very successful too). You're right about taking things with a grain of salt along the way.Don't forget ricmantan he was generous with his finds. It was all fun and games until the shit went down w / the chick at enclave.

UnknownSD
11-07-24, 17:58
Geeez. 32? Pics are probably from her early 20's.She's probably in her late 30's. She gave me her number and blocked me right after. Lame.

HollywoodGuy
11-07-24, 19:48
I didn't care for Golden Man which we referred to as GoldenTool. He was arrogant and thought he was better than the rest of us here. He was not a good fellow member from what I saw. If you're basically putting us down.He did have one good approach for meeting young girls in the wild that I liked. Which was hitting up girls that work retail by pretending he was buying a gift for a young niece or whoever and then slipping them his card with the offer of a few dollars for a good time.

Lexx1
11-07-24, 20:49
He did have one good approach for meeting young girls in the wild that I liked. Which was hitting up girls that work retail by pretending he was buying a gift for a young niece or whoever and then slipping them his card with the offer of a few dollars for a good time.I've done stuff like that since way before he posted it and I still do. It's nothing new. It's just picking up girls in public the old fashioned way. And if you go in with the mindset of just taking a girl out on a civie date instead of a monger mindset. Then you can get the pussy free. Just for the cost of a dinner. Now that's a true player mindset! I don't always pay for pussy directly.

It was his approach and tone in his posts that was crass and obnoxious. I wasn't the only one that thought he was an ass. Plenty of the true OGs didn't like him either. That's why we gave him the name goldentool. One of those people that love the sound of their own voice.

TnaStylez
11-07-24, 22:34
He did have one good approach for meeting young girls in the wild that I liked. Which was hitting up girls that work retail by pretending he was buying a gift for a young niece or whoever and then slipping them his card with the offer of a few dollars for a good time.How does this approach compare to all the pickup artist stuff that was out there a decade ago?

Lexx1
11-08-24, 11:14
How does this approach compare to all the pickup artist stuff that was out there a decade ago?You'd have to talk to Goldentool to find that out. He made it seem like it worked every time. Which I can tell you it does not. I pick up girls in public with various approaches. Success of picking up a girl in public is 50/50. I don't always score. There is no guaranteed method. You can use his method but don't think you're guaranteed it will always work.

I've used something similar for ages. Since I'm a photographer as a side gig. I sometimes hand out my photography business card to hot girls. It has my burner number on it and burner email. This is mostly when I'm planning to work the girl as a POT non-pro. But most of the time I just pick up on girls as a potential civie date. I'd rather try to get the pussy free for just the cost of a regular civie date. But either approach is not guaranteed. If you're a much older dude trying to pick up a very young honey. You can easily come off as a creep. Especially trying to pick them up as a POT sugarbaby. Pretty much any girl in public you try and pickup as a POT sugarbaby can backfire. You can easily offend them offering that. Because they're not out there looking to be paid for sex normally. Now picking them up as a potential civie date is something more normal. If you're not smooth talking to the ladies in public. Then you can easily fuck it up. You have to be very outgoing, have confidence, charming, have some decent good looks and what the kids now call rizz(charisma).

HollywoodGuy
11-08-24, 18:07
How does this approach compare to all the pickup artist stuff that was out there a decade ago?The post below is very old school. Being a photographer is probably one of the easiest ways to get in a girls pants. I never met one or heard of one that wasn't working that angle and succeeding on various levels. On model mayhem alone there are literally hundreds of guys doing it. Just start out doing TFP's to build your portfolio and look legit and then take it from there.

Lexx1
11-08-24, 19:01
The post below is very old school. Being a photographer is probably one of the easiest ways to get in a girls pants. I never met one or heard of one that wasn't working that angle and succeeding on various levels. On model mayhem alone there are literally hundreds of guys doing it. Just start out doing TFP's to build your portfolio and look legit and then take it from there.Let's clarify that. A real legit photographer like myself that has the years of experience and education in photography since high school. Not some dude trying to pass himself off as an amateur photographer using his phone as his camera. I have the thousands of dollars worth of photographic equipment and shoot in rented out studios. Like I said I only use that angle sparingly. And I've also gotten free pussy civie dating by giving my business card. Because obviously my contact number is on there. I primarily use the civie dating angle which I am successful at to. But not 100% percent successful all the time. No one approach is guaranteed. There are some sleazy dudes out there passing themselves off as real photographers. I love photography for the sake of the art. Not purely as an angle to get pussy. I don't just photograph women. I also love general photography, portraiture and my primary favorite, night photography.

I have more respect for a guy that can get pussy free just through the civie dating way. And the two I discussed are just a few of the many different approaches in the civie dating pick up game. I speak on real world results. Not fantasy world imaginary world results. Especially in this day and age with a stronger feminist movement and the "me too" movement. Women in public easily get offended nowadays. Many years ago before the me too movement. It was easier to talk to a woman and compliment them. Nowadays sometimes just looking / checking out a woman they feel victimized and like you ra*ped them with a one way ticket to join the me too movement. It's ridiculous. Men have been so ostracized nowadays. So that's why now it's a very thin line you're walking trying to pick up a girl in public as a sugarbaby. You have to be very careful. Even just trying to pick up civie dating way you have to be careful not to say something wrong. Men can't be men easily in this new day and age.

Chupacabra
11-08-24, 21:12
I have more respect for a guy that can get pussy free just through the civie dating way. And the two I discussed are just a few of the many different approaches in the civie dating pick up game. I speak on real world results. Not fantasy world imaginary world results. Especially in this day and age with a stronger feminist movement and the "me too" movement. Women in public easily get offended nowadays. Many years ago before the me too movement. It was easier to talk to a woman and compliment them. Nowadays sometimes just looking / checking out a woman they feel victimized and like you ra*ped them with a one way ticket to join the me too movement. It's ridiculous. Men have been so ostracized nowadays. So that's why now it's a very thin line you're walking trying to pick up a girl in public as a sugarbaby. You have to be very careful. Even just trying to pick up civie dating way you have to be careful not to say something wrong. Men can't be men easily in this new day and age.I don't even approach women in public anymore, for the reasons you mentioned. I have some game, but it's not worth it. I can get a better looking, better performing woman by hiring an escort and be in and out with no hassle and a smile on my face. I'd rather spend a few hundred than waste hours of my time talking to women, texting them, taking them out to dinner, making small talk and maybe not even getting laid or getting laid poorly, and all at the risk of getting #metoo'ed by the wrong woman. Modern women simply are not worth the risk, imo. I've gone full hooker (I include sugar babies as hookers).

HollywoodGuy
11-08-24, 21:37
https://members.seeking.com/member/356ec58e-38ed-45f0-9051-59a4b90c6005

In sacramento. Anyone traveling and has any info, please let me know. PM is fine.

Lexx1
11-08-24, 22:02
I don't even approach women in public anymore, for the reasons you mentioned. I have some game, but it's not worth it. I can get a better looking, better performing woman by hiring an escort and be in and out with no hassle and a smile on my face. I'd rather spend a few hundred than waste hours of my time talking to women, texting them, taking them out to dinner, making small talk and maybe not even getting laid or getting laid poorly, and all at the risk of getting #metoo'ed by the wrong woman. Modern women simply are not worth the risk, imo. I've gone full hooker (I include sugar babies as hookers).LOL I feel ya man. It's like walking on thin ice with the ladies in public nowadays. That's why I don't blame dudes that go full on pro. But I still try and talk to the ladies. And I flirt everywhere with them. In the drivethru, supermarket, department stores, restaurants, etc. Ain't no shame in my game! LOL I feel way more fulfilled when I can pick up a girl, take her on a civie date and get in her panties that way. Sometimes just for the cost of a couple drinks and great conversation. Not even an expensive dinner. Best compliment I feel for a guy is when you're out at a restaurant or bar / grill with your friends. Not even looking to pick up on a girl. And a couple ladies buy and send you over a drink. I've had some wild bedroom sessions that started like that and sometimes threesomes with both of the chics. And it didn't even cost me anything. They bought me a drink. Just need to tread carefully in public with the ladies now. Have to also know how to read their body language. The subtletest of movement in body language can speak volumes and you have to know how to read it.

And yes I agree on career sugarbabies being labeled hookers/prostitutes. Way way overpriced prostitutes. A first time brand new real sugarbaby. I don't. That's why I prefer to find them as non-pros. They usually don't always go on to graduate to career sugarbabies.

Lexx1
11-09-24, 12:32
https://members.seeking.com/member/356ec58e-38ed-45f0-9051-59a4b90c6005

In sacramento. Anyone traveling and has any info, please let me know. PM is fine.I did a pimeyes face search and it didn't pick up any escort ads or porn. But one of her pics is in a motel / hotel room which can mean anything. But more often than not can mean she is a prostitute.

Heywood2020
11-09-24, 14:01
Visiting next week. Would love a few recommendations from Secret Benefits?

TnaStylez
11-09-24, 15:03
LOL I feel ya man. It's like walking on thin ice with the ladies in public nowadays. That's why I don't blame dudes that go full on pro. But I still try and talk to the ladies. And I flirt everywhere with them. In the drivethru, supermarket, department stores, restaurants, etc. Ain't no shame in my game! LOL I feel way more fulfilled when I can pick up a girl, take her on a civie date and get in her panties that way. Sometimes just for the cost of a couple drinks and great conversation. Not even an expensive dinner. Best compliment I feel for a guy is when you're out at a restaurant or bar / grill with your friends. Not even looking to pick up on a girl. And a couple ladies buy and send you over a drink. I've had some wild bedroom sessions that started like that and sometimes threesomes with both of the chics. And it didn't even cost me anything. They bought me a drink. Just need to tread carefully in public with the ladies now. Have to also know how to read their body language. The subtletest of movement in body language can speak volumes and you have to know how to read it.

And yes I agree on career sugarbabies being labeled hookers/prostitutes. Way way overpriced prostitutes. A first time brand new real sugarbaby. I don't. That's why I prefer to find them as non-pros. They usually don't always go on to graduate to career sugarbabies.If you have ladies sending over drinks you are definitely the 20% that are dating 80% of the chics haha. Since we are on the sugar forum, what are smart ways I can use my monetary resources for this endevor? Most of us on here are probably not fuc bois or tiktokers but monetary resources are our biggest strengths to attract women.

UnknownSD
11-09-24, 15:12
She just wants money for a M&G. Unverified.

https://members.seeking.com/member/37ffce34-8e26-4a40-90ff-665b017d217f

UnknownSD
11-09-24, 16:06
I'm not sure if I have reviewed her before or not. She's back on SA with a new profile. She's been on SA for many years now. She has gone by usernames such as Down2 Earth, HonestChickie, and NaturalBlonde. She's a nurse and loves to play volleyball. She's very selective so not easy to meet. Allowance negotiable.

https://members.seeking.com/member/63cb1e94-4b59-4b6a-a3ed-cbe9d0d3e0fa

Lexx1
11-09-24, 17:18
If you have ladies sending over drinks you are definitely the 20% that are dating 80% of the chics haha. Since we are on the sugar forum, what are smart ways I can use my monetary resources for this endevor? Most of us on here are probably not fuc bois or tiktokers but monetary resources are our biggest strengths to attract women.LOL I wouldn't call myself a fucboy or tiktoker. That's a young man's game. The dating scenarios I mentioned happened more often in my 20's, 30's when I used to go clubbing still and bars. And sometimes in my 40's. I'm 50 now. I also have the monetary sources since my primary career is in engineering. I could spend 1000 on a nonpro / sugarbaby easily. But why? The most I've ever spent on pussy is 350. On average I can still find some girls willing to take close to 150. With my average now being around 250. Because I always stick to the youngest, newest and freshest pussy. Especially with these current sugarbabies restricting you guys to a non GFE and wanting minimum 500 to astronomical 1000 and up. I'm not paying anything near 500 especially for a 30 yr old and up. If I'm paying for the pussy I want young filet mignon not old flank steak / chuck roast. LOL. 30's and up should not be on a sugar site. Those ladies need to be civie dated. Sugarbabies are meant to be young college age girls. If you're paying 1000 and up. You should be getting fine ass girls, for overnights and everything bare, no restrictions. Those women are career sugarbabies and sugar veterans.

Being that I'm 50 I do my best to take care of myself. Unfortunately I was cursed with starting to gray at a young age in my 20's. So now I do my best to cover my gray. Because like that just for men commercial. There ain't no play for Mr gray! LOL. At least I have a bit of a baby face which helps keep me looking younger. I do all that to stay appealing attractive still to these ladies. Just today I got a burger at Wendy's and I spotted a hot looking emo / goth girl going in too. She was wearing some sexy purple stockings. My favorite color. I complimented her on them and she was receptive and we struck up a conversation. Also told her I thought she was gorgeous and she said thank you. She was a light skin Latina, petite and had a great body with a beautiful face. We kept talking and told her I loved her look and we ended up exchanging Instas and I gave her my number. She was excited showing me all her different looks on her Insta. Man she was looking even hotter in some of those pics. We might be getting together some time next weekend. I say might because young ladies can be flaky sometimes. So that's all it takes to break the ice and start conversing with these young honeys. She's 22.

FarFarAway
11-09-24, 19:40
While for me, one thing I am looking for in a SB I see ongoing is someone who cumms like a freight train, it seems like I've come across several who enjoy sex to be sure, but in a different way. They aren't so into their own orgasms, but they really get a kick when I CIP. And I do only covered, so there's not some other weird thing going on. They just like the idea I am getting off I guess. This is true of my current SB, who is an early 30's dance instructor, very pretty, who I get to bang weekly at her place for small money. I have also heard this from a few young latina spinners I've met from seeking, many of which I never even took to the FC.

Compare notes? Anyone have experience that identifies a particular demographic as hard cummmmmers, or a group that are just pleasers and don't care if they get off?

Mondo72
11-09-24, 22:53
LOL I wouldn't call myself a fucboy or tiktoker. That's a young man's game. The dating scenarios I mentioned happened more often in my 20's, 30's when I used to go clubbing still and bars. And sometimes in my 40's. I'm 50 now. I also have the monetary sources since my primary career is in engineering. I could spend 1000 on a nonpro / sugarbaby easily. But why? The most I've ever spent on pussy is 350. On average I can still find some girls willing to take close to 150. With my average now being around 250. Because I always stick to the youngest, newest and freshest pussy. Especially with these current sugarbabies restricting you guys to a non GFE and wanting minimum 500 to astronomical 1000 and up. I'm not paying anything near 500 especially for a 30 yr old and up. If I'm paying for the pussy I want young filet mignon not old flank steak / chuck roast. LOL. 30's and up should not be on a sugar site. Those ladies need to be civie dated. Sugarbabies are meant to be young college age girls. If you're paying 1000 and up. You should be getting fine ass girls, for overnights and everything bare, no restrictions. Those women are career sugarbabies and sugar veterans.

Being that I'm 50 I do my best to take care of myself. Unfortunately I was cursed with starting to gray at a young age in my 20's. So now I do my best to cover my gray. Because like that just for men commercial. There ain't no play for Mr gray! LOL. At least I have a bit of a baby face which helps keep me looking younger. I do all that to stay appealing attractive still to these ladies. Just today I got a burger at Wendy's and I spotted a hot looking emo / goth girl going in too. She was wearing some sexy purple stockings. My favorite color. I complimented her on them and she was receptive and we struck up a conversation. Also told her I thought she was gorgeous and she said thank you. She was a light skin Latina, petite and had a great body with a beautiful face. We kept talking and told her I loved her look and we ended up exchanging Instas and I gave her my number. She was excited showing me all her different looks on her Insta. Man she was looking even hotter in some of those pics. We might be getting together some time next weekend. I say might because young ladies can be flaky sometimes. So that's all it takes to break the ice and start conversing with these young honeys. She's 22.Care to comment on tips to cover gray hair? I'm in the same boat as you.

Mondo.

Lexx1
11-10-24, 00:44
Care to comment on tips to cover gray hair? I'm in the same boat as you.

Mondo.Hey man, sure. You can have it professionally done at a salon but it's expensive. Almost as much as a woman's hair coloring. But looks the most natural. I actually do it myself with surprisingly men's hair color that is usually cheaply available at the dollar store. It's the same stuff at just for men. If not just get the name brand Just for Men. Doing it yourself you need a stationary bathroom mirror at eye level like most bathrooms have. Then I prep by applying a light amount of Vaseline along the bottom edge hairline to protect your skin from being stained by the dye. Also put along your ear edges and back of the ear to prevent staining of your ears. Usually it's a 5 minute hair color process. I start dyeing first the areas with the most gray hairs usually the sides and back for me. So they have the most time to take in the color. Then I dye the top which for me doesn't have as much gray as the sides and top. Then leave it on for the 5 minutes and then shower with lukewarm to warm water. Scrub the Vaseline off with bar soap or body wash. Then you're good to go. It usually lasts a couple months for me and then it starts to fade to a light brown.

Lexx1
11-10-24, 02:09
Hey man, sure. You can have it professionally done at a salon but it's expensive. Almost as much as a woman's hair coloring. But looks the most natural. I actually do it myself with surprisingly men's hair color that is usually cheaply available at the dollar store. It's the same stuff at just for men. If not just get the name brand Just for Men. Doing it yourself you need a stationary bathroom mirror at eye level like most bathrooms have. Then I prep by applying a light amount of Vaseline along the bottom edge hairline to protect your skin from being stained by the dye. Also put along your ear edges and back of the ear to prevent staining of your ears. Usually it's a 5 minute hair color process. I start dyeing first the areas with the most gray hairs usually the sides and back for me. So they have the most time to take in the color. Then I dye the top which for me doesn't have as much gray as the sides and top. Then leave it on for the 5 minutes and then shower with lukewarm to warm water. Scrub the Vaseline off with bar soap or body wash. Then you're good to go. It usually lasts a couple months for me and then it starts to fade to a light brown.Forgot to say when you rinse off the dye use a shampoo / conditioner to clean and remoisturize your hair. They'll be a faint smell of the dye chemicals right after you rinse shower and your hair dries. It'll go away the next time you shampoo.

FarFarAway
11-10-24, 02:19
You can get a regular hair stylist to color your hair, but I have always heard that it looks too fake on guys in a way it does not on girls, and they typically hate the fake-ness of it. I mean, ask the stylist (for sure a woman) what she thinks before you do it.

I have none of this trouble. I am pretty bald, and was blond when I had hair so my fairness matches my white. All the guys these days who go w / shaved heads have made it a lot easier for us naturally bald guys. I don't have the right head shape for the Mr. Clean look, though. Even though I collect my SocSec, I have not found my age to be a hindrance w / most SBs. I carefully read the age range on their profiles before contacting them, though. And while I have had interest from women of a wide age range (saw a 19 YO last year), there are a few times when the conversation got started, but then dwindled. One explanation for that could have been my age. But another is that I have a SO, that really cuts into the amount of freedom I have to play w / a SB. They can figure that out pretty quick.

XJakeRobertsx
11-10-24, 10:31
Esme ,18.

San Diego.

https://members.seeking.com/member/cc01733a-a206-4544-96fc-092047e680d1

Anyone have info on her?

UnknownSD
11-10-24, 11:55
This fake / scammer has a profile in every state in the US and almost every country using similar pics of this girl.

https://members.seeking.com/member/fcdcfd5b-2627-47d5-91a6-fab0e8579777

UnknownSD
11-10-24, 12:02
Care to comment on tips to cover gray hair? I'm in the same boat as you.

Mondo.Try Simpler. You can DIY at home at a fraction of the cost of a hair salon.

https://simplerhaircolor.com/

Lexx1
11-10-24, 13:12
You can get a regular hair stylist to color your hair, but I have always heard that it looks too fake on guys in a way it does not on girls, and they typically hate the fake-ness of it. I mean, ask the stylist (for sure a woman) what she thinks before you do it.A regular hair stylist works at a salon. You want a woman to do it if you choose to go to a salon. You don't go to a barber for this. Hence why it's called a salon.

And yes it can look fake if you choose a color that doesn't closely match your own or if you leave the dye on way to long. If doing it on your own. Even if you do make the mistake of leaving in to long. The bold intense color normalizes after a couple weeks of shampooing and looks more natural. My goal when doing it is to cover most gray but not all. It's expected to have a little gray as you age. But I'm 50 not 70/80. But since I started graying early in age. If I don't do something to cover it. And let all my gray out. I can look way older like 70 when I'm only 50. So for me it works. Some women might dig a "silver fox" but if going after young honeys. Most of them don't.

FarFarAway
11-10-24, 13:12
I just got a new burner smartphone through Tracfone. It is a Galaxy A14 I got for $100 cash at Walmart. I already had an account w / Tracfone, I was able to transfer service pretty easily from my old phone, it was getting glitchy. Just need simultaneous cell service and online access. The new one has tons more storage, like 64 GB. I can put more apps on it, the ones I use are a lot are dayuse, hoteslbyday, snapchat, google voice. I want to add instagram, I use that to communicate w / a nuru place in OC that flies very under the radar.

I like my tracfone service, using a synthetic number on Google Voice, I can pay like $20 to get 90 days of service and 2 GB of data, that covers all the texting I'll do.

I also recently went through an automated process to change the number on the phone itself. I found the old burner number associated with myself IRL, I wanted to nip that in the bud for sure. I have no idea how that could have happened, but it doesn't apply anymore.

StudBucket
11-11-24, 02:11
This gal gave me her number, was texting me, we even spoke once on the phone and we finally set something up for today. First red flag was that she asked for a Face Time audio call only as she stated she had not paid her bill. As the date came closer, I got this message: can you please send me half of the $400 to my Apple Pay and I can at least pay my phone bill so it won't be an issue when we meet up?" I emphatically told her I never send any money or date allowance up front especially when we have no history. Long story short, we had arranged a pre-designated restaurant to meet at set time and when that time came she stood me up. I texted her where are you, and notice she had blocked me as my iphone text turned green. I almost booked a hotel to meet her at, but on the first date I only choose a hotel and then book it when we are good to go after dinner or drinks. Many scammers out there guys, they will even talk, chat, and pretend they are genuine with good intentions.

Here is the profile:

https://members.seeking.com/member/9438c5f9-42a2-43f1-8c50-d65d6ad7d268

Ace McNasty
11-11-24, 10:57
There are a few others.I guess now there's 3 of us who fuck black girls on this daddy forum LOL. Well this guy posted his review on this Mya18 screenshot below. Chicks like that are a dime a dozen, you can find them on Fig, Hx, PD, or generic sites. She posted on SA so he paid SB rates. Not really my type, I prefer them skinny like you. Speaking of which, I much prefer this other chick you profiled from Redondo Beach screenshot below. Cute spinner, thin legs, nice body.

Example of my ebony preference from SA or PD. Creampied this super hot skinny ebony with amazing tits named Katie and waiting for her to return from the aloha state so I can creampie her again.

Katiekat gorgeous mixed ebony bbfscip JWA Aug 2024. Link expires 48 hrs.

https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fo/4b7xdvqyi2edtovtxf85x/AGpGs9K1_Ff6k5hlfLutkhU?rlkey=g7115s1rfot4kye58xrk5m1qb&st=tpsn5ulc&dl=0

HollywoodGuy
11-11-24, 16:53
This gal gave me her number, was texting me, we even spoke once on the phone and we finally set something up for today. First red flag was that she asked for a Face Time audio call only as she stated she had not paid her bill. As the date came closer, I got this message: can you please send me half of the $400 to my Apple Pay and I can at least pay my phone bill so it won't be an issue when we meet up?" I emphatically told her I never send any money or date allowance up front especially when we have no history. Long story short, we had arranged a pre-designated restaurant to meet at set time and when that time came she stood me up. I texted her where are you, and notice she had blocked me as my iphone text turned green. I almost booked a hotel to meet her at, but on the first date I only choose a hotel and then book it when we are good to go after dinner or drinks. Many scammers out there guys, they will even talk, chat, and pretend they are genuine with good intentions.

Here is the profile:

https://members.seeking.com/member/9438c5f9-42a2-43f1-8c50-d65d6ad7d268Like it says in her profile "only real sugar ddys". Red flag.

HollywoodGuy
11-11-24, 16:55
Care to comment on tips to cover gray hair? I'm in the same boat as you.

Mondo.Gray hair is a huge turn on for any girl seriously interested in an older guy.

HollywoodGuy
11-11-24, 16:56
I did a pimeyes face search and it didn't pick up any escort ads or porn. But one of her pics is in a motel / hotel room which can mean anything. But more often than not can mean she is a prostitute.She is. But so pretty and young.

Lexx1
11-11-24, 20:24
She is. But so pretty and young.Yeah she's cute. I don't mind a Pro / UTR sometimes as long as they're open to bare everything and the price is reasonable. Got to have a great menu they're offering.

I'm currently working on these two. An 18 yr old mixed Black / Latina in the IE area. Found her through good ole Craigslist still, answered my ad. Have her at 160, everything raw, CIP, swallow and cool with pics / video. Ok with a couple hours of fun. Just have to pick her up, she has no car. Probably will just get a hotel near her. To far to be driving back and forth to my house near Glendale. Meet set for this weekend.

The petite Latina is 20 and found her through Facebook. Open to everything raw as well, swallow, CIP, just no anal. No anal is not a dealbreaker for me. Also ok with pics / video. 180 for a couple hours of fun. She's closer so I'll just bring her to my house.

HollywoodGuy
11-11-24, 21:20
Yeah she's cute. I don't mind a Pro / UTR sometimes as long as they're open to bare everything and the price is reasonable. Got to have a great menu they're offering.

I'm currently working on these two. An 18 yr old mixed Black / Latina in the IE area. Found her through good ole Craigslist still, answered my ad. Have her at 160, everything raw, CIP, swallow and cool with pics / video. Ok with a couple hours of fun. Just have to pick her up, she has no car. Probably will just get a hotel near her. To far to be driving back and forth to my house near Glendale. Meet set for this weekend.

The petite Latina is 20 and found her through Facebook. Open to everything raw as well, swallow, CIP, just no anal. No anal is not a deal breaker for me. Also ok with pics / video. 180 for a couple hours of fun. She's closer so I'll just bring her to my house.I like the first one.

https://members.seeking.com/member/5542673b-5903-49ef-b78e-c10110a5df09

She quoted me $$.5 probably negotiable. Says she comes to vegas sometimes.

Lexx1
11-11-24, 21:32
I like the first one.

https://members.seeking.com/member/5542673b-5903-49ef-b78e-c10110a5df09

She quoted me $$.5 probably negotiable. Says she comes to vegas sometimes.Yeah I know my man. You love the chocolate. LOL

That one is cuter than the previous one you asked about. If she comes to you even better. My hottest black girl, IMO, was Sophia. A nonpro I was seeing for about a year when she was 18. She did one professional adult porn later when she was either 19 or 20. Google Vicky Vegas Porn. She was some hot chocolate. To bad she doesn't have that hot body anymore. She's thick now.

TopGun9
11-12-24, 10:10
Yeah she's cute. I don't mind a Pro / UTR sometimes as long as they're open to bare everything and the price is reasonable. Got to have a great menu they're offering.

I'm currently working on these two. An 18 yr old mixed Black / Latina in the IE area. Found her through good ole Craigslist still, answered my ad. Have her at 160, everything raw, CIP, swallow and cool with pics / video. Ok with a couple hours of fun. Just have to pick her up, she has no car. Probably will just get a hotel near her. To far to be driving back and forth to my house near Glendale. Meet set for this weekend.

The petite Latina is 20 and found her through Facebook. Open to everything raw as well, swallow, CIP, just no anal. No anal is not a dealbreaker for me. Also ok with pics / video. 180 for a couple hours of fun. She's closer so I'll just bring her to my house.Great finds brother. Hope everything goes as plan.

Report back after the meet, with pics LOL.

Lexx1
11-12-24, 13:15
Great finds brother. Hope everything goes as plan.

Report back after the meet, with pics LOL.Thanks man.

But sorry there won't be any post action pics. The action pics got me burned and in trouble with two of my girls years ago in the nonpro thread. Can't trust some dudes on this site trying to be white knights and blabbing to a girl.

UnknownSD
11-12-24, 14:01
LOVE event has renamed itself to THE event. They're still constantly creating new fake profiles in every city. Does anyone have any experience with it?

SBlover
11-13-24, 10:55
https://members.seeking.com/member/9c7b24c1-8668-478f-82e4-5fb8c8732f75

If you know, you know.

UnknownSD
11-13-24, 11:17
I'm not sure if I have reviewed her before or not. She's back on SA with a new profile. She's been on SA for many years now. She has gone by usernames such as Down2 Earth, HonestChickie, and NaturalBlonde. She's a nurse and loves to play volleyball. She's very selective so not easy to meet. Allowance negotiable.

https://members.seeking.com/member/63cb1e94-4b59-4b6a-a3ed-cbe9d0d3e0faPM me if you guys want her IG.

LightHouseMan
11-13-24, 12:53
https://members.seeking.com/member/9c7b24c1-8668-478f-82e4-5fb8c8732f75

If you know, you know.She is back, looking much skinner, with more tattoos, and less services. She has gone down hill over time.

Tendods
11-13-24, 14:25
No, we usually go bowling or to the movies or go to a nice restaurant. If it ends at my place, then they get their ppm; if not, they go home empty-handed.Is it agreed upon that the M&G is unpaid? Or is it more one of those known things already going into it?

Lexx1
11-13-24, 14:52
Is it agreed upon that the M&G is unpaid? Or is it more one of those known things already going into it?These are rookie questions concerning M&Gs. You shouldn't pay just to take a POT on the M&G. It's just to get to know each other and finalize details about what's expected in bed and what you're paying. As a gentleman you only pay for the dinner, drinks, etc. Always clarify this before meeting. That you're not paying just to M&G. There are girls out there too just looking for free dinners. With no intention of fucking. So don't get suckered into that either.

Personally I rarely do M&Gs. I negotiate everything beforehand by text, calls, email and video calls. And then we set a date / time to meet at the hotel or my place. The video calls are to make sure she looks like her pics and not a catfish. I only do M&Gs when the girl asks to but I clarify I'm not paying just to meet. The funds help is only provided for fun in bed.

Tendods
11-13-24, 15:00
So I have a few that I've been talking to for a bit that seems like we're getting ready to set up a time to get together. A few are open about PPM but the topic of amount still hasn't been brought up yet. A few really haven't brought up money at all yet in our day to day conversations. So I'm wondering what is kind of best practice for scenarios like this? I assume me initiating the conversation is probably not in my best interest. Just go into it and see what happens? If things go well just give them the "atm only let me grab x amount?

One of them is def just going to be a drinks and main event in the room kind of night while the other potential is looking like at least a dinner date and I guess we'll see where that goes?

In general, not sure how to play this.

Tendods
11-13-24, 15:03
These are rookie questions concerning M&Gs. You shouldn't pay just to take a POT on the M&G. It's just to get to know each other and finalize details about what's expected in bed and what you're paying. As a gentleman you only pay for the dinner, drinks, etc. Always clarify this before meeting. That you're not paying just to M&G. There are girls out there too just looking for free dinners. With no intention of fucking. So don't get suckered into that either.

Personally I rarely do M&Gs. I negotiate everything beforehand by text, calls, email and video calls. And then we set a date / time to meet at the hotel or my place. The video calls are to make sure she looks like her pics and not a catfish. I only do M&Gs when the girl asks to but I clarify I'm not paying just to meet. The funds help is only provided for fun in bed.Nice. Thanks for the response. The few times Seeking has worked for me it was pretty much known by all involved what was going on and never ever had to do a M&G. Lately, I've been talking to a few who want to do a dinner or drinks at the bar kind of thing, which is new for me on the site, so just trying to expand my knowledge and see what the protocol is. LOL.

Dsprdo
11-13-24, 17:02
Nice. Thanks for the response. The few times Seeking has worked for me it was pretty much known by all involved what was going on and never ever had to do a M&G. Lately, I've been talking to a few who want to do a dinner or drinks at the bar kind of thing, which is new for me on the site, so just trying to expand my knowledge and see what the protocol is. LOL.I've been on and off of seeking for getting close to ten years. At first a meet and greet was part of almost every success I had. As years have gone by girls have talked more and almost everyone knows the deal; typically these days they bring up ppm before I do. If I get real new girl vibe from a prospect I usually suggest a M&G just to make them comfortable or to flush out if they are not quite as new to the deal as they seem. I actually think its a plus when they do want to do a meet because it suggests newer to the game and it gives me a face to face to decide if I really want to do this. I never pay for a meet, if a girl suggests that I move on to the next. I set the meet someplace convenient for me, and for something quick like drinks or coffee. I also find that if you get them that far without agreeing on ppm they are pretty much in the boat and probably for a better amount than if I negotiated by text.

FarFarAway
11-13-24, 17:32
I've been on and off of seeking for getting close to ten years. At first a meet and greet was part of almost every success I had. As years have gone by girls have talked more and almost everyone knows the deal; typically these days they bring up ppm before I do. If I get real new girl vibe from a prospect I usually suggest a M&G just to make them comfortable or to flush out if they are not quite as new to the deal as they seem. I actually think its a plus when they do want to do a meet because it suggests newer to the game and it gives me a face to face to decide if I really want to do this. I never pay for a meet, if a girl suggests that I move on to the next. I set the meet someplace convenient for me, and for something quick like drinks or coffee. I also find that if you get them that far without agreeing on ppm they are pretty much in the boat and probably for a better amount than if I negotiated by text.As HG has been saying for for as long as I've been reading this, if a girl will M&G you, she has already decided she'll bang you for allowance, the only question is can you agree on the terms.

I like to M&G because I am reaching for some real novices / non-pros, and when I am literally three times their age, I have had a question about whether they are really game to bang me. I have learned many many of them are, but having gone through this formality is very helpful for logistics in planning FCs. I have a SO, I am often on a tight schedule, and I also can (if I trust her) gainfully get the girl to help me w / OpSec. That is, get us a hotel room. This really cuts the risk to me, I never get stood up from the FC.

GuardMan
11-14-24, 15:50
Hello LA brothers.

Sactown is dead on this site. Is this one $500 ppm territory?

Hotel or your place required. $300-$400 range is typical here.

https://members.seeking.com/member/9924daf0-a78b-4f98-9b93-ab1faff3194b

Lexx1
11-14-24, 17:12
Hello LA brothers.

Sactown is dead on this site. Is this one $500 ppm territory?

Hotel or your place required. $300-$400 range is typical here.

https://members.seeking.com/member/9924daf0-a78b-4f98-9b93-ab1faff3194bNo 30s and up chic should be 500/ up territory. Plus she's been on the site over a year. Take her out to dinner / M&G and try getting in her panties cheaper. If she still looks like her pics then nice. But I'd try and keep it at 300 or below.

UnknownSD
11-14-24, 18:05
Here's a white girl for you guys. It's her first time on SA and her first time looking for an arrangement. She's looking for platonic dates for now. She's not sure if she's ready for anything intimate at the moment. She lives near Silver Lake. Photos are accurate.

https://members.seeking.com/member/80d786c9-b60b-43fe-a01e-466cfe00e2f2

UnknownSD
11-14-24, 18:09
Here's a hot Latino model for you guys. She's a fashion model signed with an agency. She's pursuing nursing now. She's tall and skinny and have a very nice body. And she got very nice teeth. She's very selective so not easy to meet. She lives near Huntington Beach. She's looking for a very high allowance. The photo is accurate.

https://members.seeking.com/member/ea9ff239-0fa2-490c-ae12-1a65d9c74c65

UnknownSD
11-15-24, 12:00
Here's a white girl for you guys. It's her first time on SA and her first time looking for an arrangement. She's looking for platonic dates for now. She's not sure if she's ready for anything intimate at the moment. She lives near Silver Lake. Photos are accurate.

https://members.seeking.com/member/80d786c9-b60b-43fe-a01e-466cfe00e2f2She's off SA after two days. She thought she could get 1 k ppm for a platonic date LOL.

Mac Eat Bright
11-15-24, 22:45
Here's a white European girl for you guys. She just moved here from the east coast. She lives near Malibu. She's pursuing acting. Photos are accurate. She's looking for 1 k ppm minimum. She doesn't do anything under 1 k.

https://members.seeking.com/member/8f244f70-8fff-4afe-8705-3edd518eb388It looks like she is really selective about the people she tries to meet; also she rarely responds to messages and is hard to negotiate with the ppm.

UnknownSD
11-16-24, 10:31
Here's a white Russian blonde girl for you guys. She lives near the Grove. She's in digital marketing. She moved here from Texas a few months ago. She's definitely not 27, more like in her late 30's. There are wrinkles near her eyes already. She's easy to schedule an M&G. Allowance is negotiable.

https://members.seeking.com/member/1c402ccc-6eef-4e47-84dc-b49320d95511

UnknownSD
11-17-24, 13:38
Here's a white girl for you guys. She lives down at Oceanside. She's asking for $100 for a initial M&G. I passed. Unverified.

https://members.seeking.com/member/ecdcca91-ce32-4d7e-8044-1e06d32f7db7

UnknownSD
11-17-24, 13:42
I can't remember if I reviewed her before or not. She's back on SA with a new profile. She went by username Michelle before. She's been on SA for many years now. She lives down at San Diego. Her photos are acuurate but from a few years back. She's probably in her mid or late 30's by now. She's looking for 1 k ppm.

https://members.seeking.com/member/f969ae37-bcb7-47f3-8172-78c899cbdba6

UnknownSD
11-17-24, 14:17
Here's a European white girl for you guys. I met her a while back. I forgot where she was from. I think Ukraine or Russia. Photos are accurate. She lives in Ktown. She's currently doing social work at a non-profit organization. She's asking for at least 1 k ppm the lowest.

https://members.seeking.com/member/372d890e-70fe-4e08-b7db-efeb04f7b46a

UnknownSD
11-17-24, 16:35
Here's a European model for you guys. She's currently visiting LA till the end of the year. She's looking for 2 k ppm. Unverified.

https://members.seeking.com/member/2ffff047-40f3-4cb8-bb06-6f03a68cfa28

UnknownSD
11-18-24, 13:43
LOVE event has renamed itself to THE event. They're still constantly creating new fake profiles in every city. Does anyone have any experience with it?That's good. I guess no one got scammed. I'm just wondering how they keep operating if no one gets scammed. Or maybe someone got scammed but was too embarrassed to come forward.

UnknownSD
11-19-24, 20:18
Here's a white Italian blonde girl for you guys. She's visiting LA and looking for an SD to stay here. She's looking for a 5 k monthly allowance upfront to be your full-time live-in SB. If she cannot live in with you, you'll have to get her a place. Her private photos are accurate. She doesn't do per meets.

https://members.seeking.com/member/e0dd3e6b-902f-4dd9-aa51-8dfc167a7c03

UnknownSD
11-19-24, 20:20
Here's a white girl for you guys. She has blonde hair now. She's asking for 1 k ppm and no overnights. Unverified.

https://members.seeking.com/member/0c494e48-3e54-482c-a470-69c67a1cfe2b

Lexx1
11-19-24, 21:16
Here's a white girl for you guys. She has blonde hair now. She's asking for 1 k ppm and no overnights. Unverified.

https://members.seeking.com/member/0c494e48-3e54-482c-a470-69c67a1cfe2bShe's Asian and has the full plastic body treatment, bleh. Fake hips, ass, tits and probably has the fake duck lips to go with it all.

Chupacabra
11-20-24, 01:45
She's Asian and has the full plastic body treatment, bleh. Fake hips, ass, tits and probably has the fake duck lips to go with it all.LOL The fake ass is the most noticeable, she probably waddles like a duck in addition to having the duck lips. She's definitely asian or hapa too. When did those girls start trying to attract black men with the oversize fake Kardashian asses? That's a new one on me.

Great work though UnknownSD you must have an AI assistant or something to power through all of these profiles. Great intel for those guys who can form over $1 k for this stuff.

UnknownSD
11-20-24, 10:35
She's Asian and has the full plastic body treatment, bleh. Fake hips, ass, tits and probably has the fake duck lips to go with it all.Haha. She blocked me already so I couldn't see her profile. From the pics she sent over text, she looks white. I didn't look carefully LOL.

UnknownSD
11-20-24, 10:36
LOL The fake ass is the most noticeable, she probably waddles like a duck in addition to having the duck lips. She's definitely asian or hapa too. When did those girls start trying to attract black men with the oversize fake Kardashian asses? That's a new one on me.

Great work though UnknownSD you must have an AI assistant or something to power through all of these profiles. Great intel for those guys who can form over $1 k for this stuff.No AI LOL. I'm very efficient in going through the profiles. No time wasted.

XJakeRobertsx
11-20-24, 11:12
Talya, 18.

Newport Beach.

https://members.seeking.com/member/ae61568a-7764-4958-9172-c40005f2fd75

Anyone met her?

HollywoodGuy
11-20-24, 22:20
Here's a white Italian blonde girl for you guys. She's visiting LA and looking for an SD to stay here. She's looking for a 5 k monthly allowance upfront to be your full-time live-in SB. If she cannot live in with you, you'll have to get her a place. Her private photos are accurate. She doesn't do per meets.

https://members.seeking.com/member/e0dd3e6b-902f-4dd9-aa51-8dfc167a7c03Gone are the good old days, like when I had paris (IYKYK) living with me for a year for about 1 k a month and that guaranteed me 8 sessions a month.

UnknownSD
11-21-24, 13:49
Gone are the good old days, like when I had paris (IYKYK) living with me for a year for about 1 k a month and that guaranteed me 8 sessions a month.Yes, the good old days are long gone and forgotten. I used to have a hot blonde model for 2 k / month full-time. She's a 10/10. You would see her on billboards in WEHO. Nowadays, it's more like 15 k-25 k / month.

Berol Loz
11-22-24, 22:01
I'm not sure if it's Black Friday coming up or just end-of-month bills—or both? But it seems like there's a bit of a pick-up of girls actually looking to meet up. I usually look for girls with something in their profile that sounds like they are willing to meet up and have a few photos, ideally full-body.

I just started messaging them today as I'm visiting early decemeber, will update if I get any bites.

Melanie, 23, Los Angeles.

https://www.sugardaddymeet.com/userProfile?tid=af100011222-m&userId=73328445&nsp=1

"something mutually beneficial with someone fun, Discreet, NSA, FWB".

Izzidjork, 22, Claremont.

https://www.sugardaddymeet.com/userProfile?tid=af100011222-m&userId=67142644&nsp=1

"22 years old, & an exotic dancer. ".

Athenna, 23, Los Angeles.

https://www.sugardaddymeet.com/userProfile?tid=af100011222-m&userId=73058873&nsp=1

"I'm not selling pictures, I don't do of / porn and I don't look for online relationships (Kayla, 23, Fullerton.

https://www.sugardaddymeet.com/userProfile?tid=af100011222-m&userId=72660437&nsp=1

"seeking a mutually beneficial arrangment. FaceTime calls before meet ups are a requirement for me".

Millyhernandez, 25, Riverside.

https://www.sugardaddymeet.com/userProfile?tid=af100011222-m&userId=72839515&nsp=1

"I'm looking for someone to spend one day a week with".

A lot of these girls post on seeking too, so if you're not on there, I posted the profile pics. Most girls use the same pictures. If they don't say anything like "PPM" or "looking to meet" I find girls who mention they're single moms is a good sign they might be down for something casual.

Berol Loz
11-22-24, 22:05
Talya, 18.

Newport Beach.

https://members.seeking.com/member/ae61568a-7764-4958-9172-c40005f2fd75

Anyone met her?Be careful with the 18 yo, they can be flakey. And expensive.

GuardMan
11-23-24, 16:06
Yes, the good old days are long gone and forgotten. I used to have a hot blonde model for 2 k / month full-time. She's a 10/10. You would see her on billboards in WEHO. Nowadays, it's more like 15 k-25 k / month.Yeah, for 15-25 k per month, I'll be in Eastern Europe or Central / South America. This must be reserved for the 1%ers.

FarFarAway
11-24-24, 01:06
How are you dating girls in both Atlanta and LA?


I'm not sure if it's Black Friday coming up or just end-of-month billsor both? But it seems like there's a bit of a pick-up of girls actually looking to meet up. I usually look for girls with something in their profile that sounds like they are willing to meet up and have a few photos, ideally full-body.

I just started messaging them today as I'm visiting early decemeber, will update if I get any bites.

Melanie, 23, Los Angeles.

https://www.sugardaddymeet.com/userProfile?tid=af100011222-m&userId=73328445&nsp=1

"something mutually beneficial with someone fun, Discreet, NSA, FWB".

Izzidjork, 22, Claremont.

https://www.sugardaddymeet.com/userProfile?tid=af100011222-m&userId=67142644&nsp=1

"22 years old, & an exotic dancer. ".

Athenna, 23, Los Angeles.

https://www.sugardaddymeet.com/userProfile?tid=af100011222-m&userId=73058873&nsp=1

"I'm not selling pictures, I don't do of / porn and I don't look for online relationships (Kayla, 23, Fullerton.

https://www.sugardaddymeet.com/userProfile?tid=af100011222-m&userId=72660437&nsp=1

"seeking a mutually beneficial arrangment. FaceTime calls before meet ups are a requirement for me".

Millyhernandez, 25, Riverside.

https://www.sugardaddymeet.com/userProfile?tid=af100011222-m&userId=72839515&nsp=1

"I'm looking for someone to spend one day a week with".

A lot of these girls post on seeking too, so if you're not on there, I posted the profile pics. Most girls use the same pictures. If they don't say anything like "PPM" or "looking to meet" I find girls who mention they're single moms is a good sign they might be down for something casual.

Lexx1
11-24-24, 12:06
How are you dating girls in both Atlanta and LA?Think you missed where he said he's visiting in early December.

StudBucket
11-24-24, 15:13
I'm not sure if it's Black Friday coming up or just end-of-month billsor both? But it seems like there's a bit of a pick-up of girls actually looking to meet up. I usually look for girls with something in their profile that sounds like they are willing to meet up and have a few photos, ideally full-body.

I just started messaging them today as I'm visiting early decemeber, will update if I get any bites.

Melanie, 23, Los Angeles.

https://www.sugardaddymeet.com/userProfile?tid=af100011222-m&userId=73328445&nsp=1

"something mutually beneficial with someone fun, Discreet, NSA, FWB".

Izzidjork, 22, Claremont.

https://www.sugardaddymeet.com/userProfile?tid=af100011222-m&userId=67142644&nsp=1

"22 years old, & an exotic dancer. ".

Athenna, 23, Los Angeles.

https://www.sugardaddymeet.com/userProfile?tid=af100011222-m&userId=73058873&nsp=1

"I'm not selling pictures, I don't do of / porn and I don't look for online relationships (Kayla, 23, Fullerton.

https://www.sugardaddymeet.com/userProfile?tid=af100011222-m&userId=72660437&nsp=1

"seeking a mutually beneficial arrangment. FaceTime calls before meet ups are a requirement for me".

Millyhernandez, 25, Riverside.

https://www.sugardaddymeet.com/userProfile?tid=af100011222-m&userId=72839515&nsp=1

"I'm looking for someone to spend one day a week with".

Thanks for your post here and sharing links but be careful bro. Two of these girls are straight up trannies. Melanie and Athena are both dudes w / sex changes. Suprised you missed that.

SB.

RanManCan
11-25-24, 00:48
Scarlet / Jordyn Bosson (IG) - Hooker with a pimp, by her own admission.

I have her real name too, but not sure I can post it.

Phone number is a Kansas area code, ending in 1044

https://members.seeking.com/member/8d669e31-816d-47ca-8098-d3b84eea7091

https://www.instagram.com/jordynbosson/

https://www.tiktok.com/@jordynbosson

I wrote a post explaining the entire situation, but decided that level of detail is not in my best interest.

I'll just say. I escaped a dangerous situation with a girl and her pimp. You've been warned.

Glad I left her at the bar and didn't bring her back to my place (all the drama and threat that a pimp was after me occurred after I left).

Glad I already got laid today (which helps against thinking with little head).

UnknownSD
11-25-24, 10:27
Scarlet / Jordyn Bosson (IG) - Hooker with a pimp, by her own admission.

I have her real name too, but not sure I can post it.

Phone number is a Kansas area code, ending in 1044

https://members.seeking.com/member/8d669e31-816d-47ca-8098-d3b84eea7091

https://www.instagram.com/jordynbosson/

https://www.tiktok.com/@jordynbosson

I wrote a post explaining the entire situation, but decided that level of detail is not in my best interest.

I'll just say. I escaped a dangerous situation with a girl and her pimp. You've been warned.

Glad I left her at the bar and didn't bring her back to my place (all the drama and threat that a pimp was after me occurred after I left).

Glad I already got laid today (which helps against thinking with little head).She said she just moved back to CA and lived at a hotel near Riverside. She wasn't willing to verify herself so I passed. She sounded like a scammer and all red flags.

RanManCan
11-25-24, 12:18
Since I posted a negative report, thought I should post a very positive recent experience.

I normally don't message if they're over 25 and I normally avoid Eastern European women, they have no soul, and often have rules.

I took a chance on this one because she is gorgeous and messaged well.

I was well rewarded! Everything I like, very pleasant, perfect body, glistening neon pink pussy (I thought only the under 25's had that, I was wrong! )

I will be seeing her more! And I think I'll loosen some of my filters

Lexx1
11-25-24, 12:56
I normally don't message if they're over 25 and I normally avoid Eastern European women, they have no soul, and often have rules.

I took a chance on this one because she is gorgeous and messaged well.

I was well rewarded! Everything I like, very pleasant, perfect body, glistening neon pink pussy (I thought only the under 25's had that, I was wrong! )

I will be seeing her more! And I think I'll loosen some of my filtersIf you only find Eastern European women as pros. They sometimes can be like that. Most prostitutes are like that from any race / culture. They have rules and are about making their money.

I've dated and had a Hungarian civie GF. Also dated other Hungarian and Ukranian girls as well. They are great women to date and fall in love with. And they do have soul much more I've found than American women. They also work hard and have no problem fitting into the traditional roles of a woman. Opposite to American women who are usually very independent and don't like the traditional roles of women. I currently have a beautiful tall Ukranian model as a sugarbaby. She's very sweet and a little goofy at times.

Russian and German chics can come off cold at first. But you just have to know how to interact with them. Then they open up.

Also understand that they are being cautious as well dealing with American men. Especially if they're fairly still new to living in the US. American men and European men are different. And alot of European men can be macho and a bit assholey in how they treat their women. Not all of them but some of the stories these girls have told me over the years of their past BFs is cringeworthy. So they think sometimes American men can be the same way too.

RanManCan
11-25-24, 13:27
If you only find Eastern European women as pros. They sometimes can be like that. Most prostitutes are like that from any race / culture. They have rules and are about making their money.

I've dated and had a Hungarian civie GF. Also dated other Hungarian and Ukranian girls as well. They are great women to date and fall in love with. And they do have soul much more I've found than American women. They also work hard and have no problem fitting into traditional roles of a woman. Opposite to American women who are usually very independent and don't like the traditional roles of women. I currently have a beautiful tall Ukranian model as a sugarbaby. She's very sweet and a little goofy at times.

Russian and German chics can come off cold at first. But you just have to know how to interact with them. Then they open up.I try my best to avoid pros at all costs, see my post below about walking away from Scarlet / Jordyn, a very hot pro.

FarFarAway
11-25-24, 17:54
Since I posted a negative report, thought I should post a very positive recent experience.

I normally don't message if they're over 25 and I normally avoid Eastern European women, they have no soul, and often have rules.

I took a chance on this one because she is gorgeous and messaged well.

I was well rewarded! Everything I like, very pleasant, perfect body, glistening neon pink pussy (I thought only the under 25's had that, I was wrong! )

I will be seeing her more! And I think I'll loosen some of my filtersYou didn't say which site that one is on.

I agree that Russians have a reputation for being sorta mercenary. I had a great smoking hot Russian SB long ago, she was a mail-order bride for a Hispanic dude in the IE. They had a kid, she was staying w / him until the girl got to be 18, then ditching him. Her behavior was as if I was the greatest in bed since John Holmes, I never quite trusted that though, and w / her, I had to get our hotel. I quit doing that, too risky for me, so I could not see her again.

Chupacabra
11-25-24, 18:25
Scarlet / Jordyn Bosson (IG) - Hooker with a pimp, by her own admission.

I have her real name too, but not sure I can post it.

Phone number is a Kansas area code, ending in 1044

https://members.seeking.com/member/8d669e31-816d-47ca-8098-d3b84eea7091

https://www.instagram.com/jordynbosson/

https://www.tiktok.com/@jordynbosson

I wrote a post explaining the entire situation, but decided that level of detail is not in my best interest.

I'll just say. I escaped a dangerous situation with a girl and her pimp. You've been warned.

Glad I left her at the bar and didn't bring her back to my place (all the drama and threat that a pimp was after me occurred after I left).

Glad I already got laid today (which helps against thinking with little head).Damn, sounds like you dodged a bullet (maybe literally haha). Can you DM me the story? I have already reached out to this girl before I saw this post, so more info would be helpful. She looks classy and high-end, I would never have expected a pimp behind her. Guess you can't judge a book by its cover.

UnknownSD
11-25-24, 19:05
Damn, sounds like you dodged a bullet (maybe literally haha). Can you DM me the story? I have already reached out to this girl before I saw this post, so more info would be helpful. She looks classy and high-end, I would never have expected a pimp behind her. Guess you can't judge a book by its cover.She's a fake / scammer. She asks for gas money. It's the same old scam.

ColoHobbyist
11-26-24, 01:36
Thanks for your post here and sharing links but be careful bro. Two of these girls are straight up trannies. Melanie and Athena are both dudes w / sex changes. Suprised you missed that.

SB.That's quite an accusation. Have you seen this firsthand or just guessing?

Murrican
11-27-24, 12:46
If you only find Eastern European women as pros. They sometimes can be like that. Most prostitutes are like that from any race / culture. They have rules and are about making their money.
I had a girl reach out to me on seeking who lived on the Westside. Polish girl. Used her real name and phone number. Was easy to google and see she was a normal person. But she was too close to my house for my comfort. Cute girl. Was like 28 I think. But interestingly the more I said I'm not sure and demurred, the more it made her want to do this. She would reach out every few days and say "we're both adults here, just tell me what you need to make this work for you". In the end I didn't move forward but I always wonder.

Lexx1
11-27-24, 17:03
I had a girl reach out to me on seeking who lived on the Westside. Polish girl. Used her real name and phone number. Was easy to google and see she was a normal person. But she was too close to my house for my comfort. Cute girl. Was like 28 I think. But interestingly the more I said I'm not sure and demurred, the more it made her want to do this. She would reach out every few days and say "we're both adults here, just tell me what you need to make this work for you". In the end I didn't move forward but I always wonder.Don't think I've ever dated a Polish girl. Have been curious though. Sounds like she was eager to meet up. But understand being cautious. I have a bucket list of different ladies to try from different countries. Have checked off a lot. But still have quite a few to go. East Indian is one. Had two different opportunities but plans fell through. Have been with Native American many times.

Berol Loz
11-29-24, 00:15
Thanks for your post here and sharing links but be careful bro. Two of these girls are straight up trannies. Melanie and Athena are both dudes w / sex changes. Suprised you missed that.

SB.Damn, usually the mention in their profiles if they're trans. Thanks for the heads-up though :)
I just checked again and didn't see anything, unless they took it out. Melanie does look a bit masculine in some of her photos, I guess.

Did you talk to them?

Berol Loz
11-29-24, 00:34
How are you dating girls in both Atlanta and LA?I'm mostly around the Atlanta area but travel for work. I haven't met the girls in LA, but I was looking for someone who was available when I do get out there. I shared some leads because maybe someone recognised them from SDM or Seeking and knows if I should avoid.

Like, one of the LA guys mentioned 2 of the girls I was messaging were trans (and doesn't say on her profile), so I'm glad I shared that one!

UnknownSD
11-29-24, 14:11
Here's a white girl for you guys. She lives near Beverly Hills. She's unwilling to verify herself. I'm guessing she's probably in her late 30's. She's asking for 1500 ppm or 300 for dinner dates. Unverified.

https://members.seeking.com/member/e6e38709-6e42-47e8-a1ad-c39f22ced894

UnknownSD
11-29-24, 14:14
Here's a white girl for you guys. She's visiting LA and will be here till the end of November. She's staying near DTLA. She's asking for 2 k ppm. Photos are accurate.

https://members.seeking.com/member/2ffff047-40f3-4cb8-bb06-6f03a68cfa28

UnknownSD
11-29-24, 14:17
Here's a white girl for you guys. She lives in Santa Monica. Photos are accurate. She has a very athletic / muscular body. She's currently in school. Allowance negotiable.

https://members.seeking.com/member/d9eaa137-f080-48f0-8103-3a3a2daedb37

UnknownSD
11-30-24, 13:33
Here's a blonde girl for you guys. She's been on SA before under the username BestWifey. She's looking for 2 k ppm. Unverified.

https://members.seeking.com/member/d91b9068-6605-4357-bf05-c8b4ab387831

UnknownSD
11-30-24, 13:35
Here's a blonde girl for you guys. She's asking for 2 k ppm. She will come down to 1500 ppm. What a deal. She wants 350 for a M&G. She's unwilling to verify. Unverified.

https://members.seeking.com/member/0f7abfae-90f5-4128-bf46-4aeb1c5414b6

UnknownSD
11-30-24, 13:38
Here's a blonde girl for you guys. She's asking for a gift for a M&G. I didn't bother to ask how much. Unverified.

https://members.seeking.com/member/c67e8508-252f-4352-82f1-4c162690b7b7

UnknownSD
11-30-24, 13:46
Here's a white girl for you guys. I forgot where she was from, somewhere in Europe. She lives near Silver Lake. Photos are accurate. She has a nice complexion. She has bad teeth. She is selective. Allowance negotiable.

https://members.seeking.com/member/06c5c473-e8f0-4d91-8124-2d96d1bda2d4

UnknownSD
11-30-24, 15:54
Here's a blonde girl for you guys. She's asking for 300-500 for a M&G for drinks or dinner. Everything else can be discussed afterward. Unverified.

https://members.seeking.com/member/758f4004-4243-4fbe-bb0f-6bdb60c826db

UnknownSD
11-30-24, 15:57
Here's an Asian girl for you guys. She's looking for 1. 2-1. 5 k ppm. Unverified.

https://members.seeking.com/member/ca53dc5e-6d0b-4805-87a7-bad62de81de9

Berol Loz
11-30-24, 21:08
Here's a white girl for you guys. I forgot where she was from, somewhere in Europe. She lives near Silver Lake. Photos are accurate. She has a nice complexion. She has bad teeth. She is selective. Allowance negotiable.

https://members.seeking.com/member/06c5c473-e8f0-4d91-8124-2d96d1bda2d4Nice looking. Teeth are fine as long as they don't cause any damage. When she says negotiable, what kind of ballpark is she looking for?

UnknownSD
12-01-24, 12:57
Nice looking. Teeth are fine as long as they don't cause any damage. When she says negotiable, what kind of ballpark is she looking for?It simply means that she has no set allowance that she's looking for.

UnknownSD
12-01-24, 13:08
Here's a blonde girl for you guys. She's back active again on SA. She lives out in Riverside. She works as a nanny part-time. Photos are accurate. She claims she's a virgin. She's asking for a 5 k allowance upfront on the first meet.

https://members.seeking.com/member/04a85b5b-9718-4bd9-a90b-fbefdc7bda93

UnknownSD
12-01-24, 13:14
Here's a blonde girl for you guys. She's from Canada and currently lives near the Mid-Wilshire area. She was married before and is now divorced with one child. She's asking for 2 k ppm minimum. Photos are accurate.

https://members.seeking.com/member/67d36bf4-a755-4199-881f-6de58797470e

UnknownSD
12-01-24, 13:19
Here's a blonde girl for you guys. She's back on SA again with a new profile. She went by usernames such as Artelle, ArtistDesigner, and Elle. I'm not sure if I reviewed her before or not. Anyways, she's looking for an SD to take her shopping. She's easy to setup an M&G but she'll ask you to take her shopping afterward. She lives near WEHO. She has no car. You'll have to Uber her everywhere. Photos are accurate.

https://members.seeking.com/member/8cda0e91-d80b-4565-864f-de188cf0eb01

FarFarAway
12-03-24, 02:54
Many have reported getting into convos w / profiles on seeking that turn out to be fakes, just trying to get them into some sort of financial scam. A common element is asking someone to get onto Signal or Telegram or WhatsApp, all apps that are commonly used outside the US.

Well, here is a new one. I was using LinkedIn, someone was also commenting on the same thread I was, and then 'she' says please connect to me for a conversation. I did, I saw initially an attractive profile photo. Well, eventually we got into convo on that site, and the whole Telegram thing came up.

I looked again at the full profile pic. She's like in a swimsuit. OK, should have seen this originally, impossible to take this seriously now. I did a facial rec search, hit on a bunch of photos in Instagram, and even found a match on another LinkedIn profile.

This stuff is getting out of hand.

OrangeGoku
12-03-24, 19:18
I joined like three groups on Reddit for girls who are looking for daddies and vice versa.

I've chatted with a few girls in the DMS but most want you to send the money and no meets.

But then I heard some guys actually starting reall relationships with these girls.

Have any of you had any experience using reddit or similar platforms?

Roger Eggin
12-03-24, 21:42
I joined like three groups on Reddit for girls who are looking for daddies and vice versa.

I've chatted with a few girls in the DMS but most want you to send the money and no meets.

But then I heard some guys actually starting reall relationships with these girls.

Have any of you had any experience using reddit or similar platforms?From what I can tell, the Sugar Baby subreddits are primarily echo chambers of girls with unrealistic expectations. If money is no issue, then you probably already do fine on SA vs. Reddit. If you have any sort of game, you'll likely have better luck in the hookup subreddits.

SeekingSex
12-04-24, 01:25
Many have reported getting into convos w / profiles on seeking that turn out to be fakes, just trying to get them into some sort of financial scam. A common element is asking someone to get onto Signal or Telegram or WhatsApp, all apps that are commonly used outside the US.

Well, here is a new one. I was using LinkedIn, someone was also commenting on the same thread I was, and then 'she' says please connect to me for a conversation. I did, I saw initially an attractive profile photo. Well, eventually we got into convo on that site, and the whole Telegram thing came up.

I looked again at the full profile pic. She's like in a swimsuit. OK, should have seen this originally, impossible to take this seriously now. I did a facial rec search, hit on a bunch of photos in Instagram, and even found a match on another LinkedIn profile.

This stuff is getting out of hand.I get an invite from profiles having pictures of attractive young women on LinkedIn almost a couple of times a week. I think they are all fakes, as you can see their qualifications are always very picture perfect. MBAs from Ivy League or similar, great jobs, and if you calculate a little you will see that the age should be around 50 or more. These are clear fakes and I report them every time. In the LA area, they are mostly Asian women pictures.

XJakeRobertsx
12-04-24, 08:36
https://members.seeking.com/member/bccac2d5-e90f-479e-8c2c-a19e124c1b9b

Anyone have info on her?

Chupacabra
12-04-24, 15:17
Here's a blonde girl for you guys. She's from Canada and currently lives near the Mid-Wilshire area. She was married before and is now divorced with one child. She's asking for 2 k ppm minimum. Photos are accurate.

https://members.seeking.com/member/67d36bf4-a755-4199-881f-6de58797470eShe's 32 years old and asking 2 k PPM. LOL These chicks are insane. Nobody is paying that. Maybe some visiting oil sheik from Dubai drops that to shit on her chest late one night after getting wasted, but even that guy is probably walking her down to 1 k.

Chupacabra
12-04-24, 15:20
https://members.seeking.com/member/bccac2d5-e90f-479e-8c2c-a19e124c1b9b

Anyone have info on her?Yes, I have some info. If she's that chubby at 18, she's going to be roughly the size and shape of a beachball at age 21. The pin has been pulled on that grenade, better be quick!

Chupacabra
12-04-24, 15:23
Here's a blonde girl for you guys. She's back on SA again with a new profile. She went by usernames such as Artelle, ArtistDesigner, and Elle. I'm not sure if I reviewed her before or not. Anyways, she's looking for an SD to take her shopping. She's easy to setup an M&G but she'll ask you to take her shopping afterward. She lives near WEHO. She has no car. You'll have to Uber her everywhere. Photos are accurate.

https://members.seeking.com/member/8cda0e91-d80b-4565-864f-de188cf0eb01That entire profile screams lunacy and is littered with red flags. I refuse to believe anyone is meeting the four-figure asks for these women, there just can't be that many wealthy, clueless simps.

I have one girl that I politely declined for 1. 5 k months ago that is back creeping around looking for 1 k now. I just ignored her, but it shows that they are just asking for the moon to see if someone is dumb enough or drunk enough one day to go for it. I bet a lot of these girls get 1 date a month, if that, and still scrape by on their barrista job and help from their parents.

RanManCan
12-04-24, 17:45
Here's a blonde girl for you guys. She's back on SA again with a new profile. She went by usernames such as Artelle, ArtistDesigner, and Elle. I'm not sure if I reviewed her before or not. Anyways, she's looking for an SD to take her shopping. She's easy to setup an M&G but she'll ask you to take her shopping afterward. She lives near WEHO. She has no car. You'll have to Uber her everywhere. Photos are accurate.

https://members.seeking.com/member/8cda0e91-d80b-4565-864f-de188cf0eb01I met her in October for an unpaid M&G, we never discussed money. Nice looking gal, went back to my place, but she wasn't DTF. No problem, I can be patient and wait until the next date.

We plan to meet again a few days later. Shortly before our next date she asks "So, I guess we're dating now? I'm interested in a relationship, eventually marriage. So are you planning on seeing other people still? Or is it too soon to ask?

Me: trying to play it cool, but clearly alarmed "Yeah, way to soon to discuss any of that. See you tomorrow?

Her (day of 2nd date): Hey, I deleted seeking. Let's meet at this car lot and shop for a car. (she didn't say who was buying, I didn't ask).

Me: (basically done, buy laying it out for her) You seem lovely and I'd love to continue. My arrangements generally start out physical and sometimes lead to more. LMK if you're open to starting simpler.

Her: Absolutely not.

So, there you have it. She's slightly loony, but maybe right for someone. If you're looking for a hot, loony, 21 yr old wife who will require a lot of upfront time / money / effort and likely monogamy.

UPDATE: after seeing her new profile, I hit her up to see if she'd become more reasonable.

Nope, she sent me a link to a $500 k Rolls Royce and insisted I buy it for her today or lose her number.

Loony tunes!

XJakeRobertsx
12-05-24, 08:22
Samanthaaaaa ,19.

Los Angeles.

https://members.seeking.com/member/2348ef75-ee3c-4abc-b16f-653752a69fe7

Any info?

Murrican
12-05-24, 10:19
I met her in October for an unpaid M&G, we never discussed money. Nice looking gal, went back to my place, but she wasn't DTF. No problem, I can be patient and wait until the next date.

We plan to meet again a few days later. Shortly before our next date she asks "So, I guess we're dating now? I'm interested in a relationship, eventually marriage. So are you planning on seeing other people still? Or is it too soon to ask?

Me: trying to play it cool, but clearly alarmed "Yeah, way to soon to discuss any of that. See you tomorrow?

Her (day of 2nd date): Hey, I deleted seeking. Let's meet at this car lot and shop for a car. (she didn't say who was buying, I didn't ask).

Me: (basically done, buy laying it out for her) You seem lovely and I'd love to continue. My arrangements generally start out physical and sometimes lead to more. LMK if you're open to starting simpler.

Her: Absolutely not.

So, there you have it. She's slightly loony, but maybe right for someone. If you're looking for a hot, loony, 21 yr old wife who will require a lot of upfront time / money / effort and likely monogamy.

UPDATE: after seeing her new profile, I hit her up to see if she'd become more reasonable.

Nope, she sent me a link to a $500 k Rolls Royce and insisted I buy it for her today or lose her number.

Loony tunes!Jokes aside that's a scary level of loony. Someone who will act like that will do irrational stuff like find your registration in your car panel or get the hotel front desk to show her the receipt to see your name and address and show up at your work unannounced or post stuff to your social media.

These are times to walk away politely and quietly.

FarFarAway
12-05-24, 14:55
Many guys elsewhere have good things to say about sugar daddy meet. Does anyone have good local experience? It is cheaper than SA, 50/ mo. Is it tough to pay with a prepaid debit card? Do you have to give up any significant personal info?

UnknownSD
12-07-24, 13:14
Here's a mix girl for you guys. She's a model from the UK and is currently staying near Silver Lake. She will be here for the winter season and returning to the UK in spring. She's looking for very generous men only. She won't meet for free. Photos are accurate.

https://members.seeking.com/member/eef11dd0-4194-4760-90c0-9b203e38b2e1

UnknownSD
12-07-24, 13:17
Here's a white girl for you guys. She's been on SA for many years now. She lives in Brentwood. Photos are accurate. She doesn't do M&G and will only meet up if you're DTF. She's very pro. She's asking for 1 k ppm but it's negotiable.

https://members.seeking.com/member/27b00a8d-3f54-43df-90cf-7447114c74e8

FarFarAway
12-08-24, 14:41
On another city sugar thread someone mentioned WYP. It hasn't come up here in some time. Is anyone using it successfully? Tricks and traps? Especially for those w / SOs.

Monger80
12-09-24, 02:35
Hello there mongers. Long time listener, first time caller! Just curious to see if anyone has had experience with the lady below. I'm a sucker for green eyes. I understand she's in Bakersfield but I find myself over there every so often.

Thanks,

https://members.seeking.com/member/b7bd4bf8-e504-4ed2-b3b9-96d50998c221

SBlover
12-09-24, 12:41
So it finally happened. 4 years and my account got banned. Super pissed because it wasn't even over something said in chat. I was accused of threatening a member and then provided with zero evidence, just banned. Incredibly frustrated by this. I'm going to take a little sabbatical and then I'll probably get a new iPhone and make my account again.

Berol Loz
12-10-24, 00:42
Many have reported getting into convos w / profiles on seeking that turn out to be fakes, just trying to get them into some sort of financial scam. A common element is asking someone to get onto Signal or Telegram or WhatsApp, all apps that are commonly used outside the US.

Well, here is a new one. I was using LinkedIn, someone was also commenting on the same thread I was, and then 'she' says please connect to me for a conversation. I did, I saw initially an attractive profile photo. Well, eventually we got into convo on that site, and the whole Telegram thing came up.

I looked again at the full profile pic. She's like in a swimsuit. OK, should have seen this originally, impossible to take this seriously now. I did a facial rec search, hit on a bunch of photos in Instagram, and even found a match on another LinkedIn profile.

This stuff is getting out of hand.LinkedIn has been marketing and actual scams for awhile now, throw in Telegram and it's almost 100% a scam I wonder if the photo on that other LinkedIn profile where another fake account (some of these scammers are just lazy) or if they just stole the picture from there. Heck, these days they might getting close to doing fakes with AI. Just don't count the number of fingers LOL.

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-66599376 (the bad stuff).

HollywoodGuy
12-10-24, 15:53
Many have reported getting into convos w / profiles on seeking that turn out to be fakes, just trying to get them into some sort of financial scam. NEW ON SEEKING. Introducing the Selfie Liveness Check.

To make this happen, we are rolling out a new feature: the Selfie Liveness Check.

Here's how it works:

• During the signup process, new users will briefly show their face via their phone or computer camera.

• Seeking's artificial intelligence will analyze the video to confirm the person signing up is real and matches their profile photos.

• This process is quick, private, and secure.

This feature is currently being tested and will soon be rolled out to the community in phases. With this and other initiatives, we are striving to build the most trusted online dating experience in the industry.

MrBlueSea
12-11-24, 01:19
So it finally happened. 4 years and my account got banned. Super pissed because it wasn't even over something said in chat. I was accused of threatening a member and then provided with zero evidence, just banned. Incredibly frustrated by this. I'm going to take a little sabbatical and then I'll probably get a new iPhone and make my account again.Happened to me again as well. Banned about 2 months ago, suspicious activity they said. Now just this month, paid for a membership, then 3 days later, I get a notice my account is on hold until I do their verification process. Think I am done with Seeking.

So looking for some new sites to try. Had a trip to SD this past weekend, almost had this 19 yr old for 400, found her on a new site. https://sugarlifenow.com/profile/Aria/.

Of course she ghosted me when I got to SD.

FarFarAway
12-11-24, 18:38
Happened to me again as well. Banned about 2 months ago, suspicious activity they said. Now just this month, paid for a membership, then 3 days later, I get a notice my account is on hold until I do their verification process. Think I am done with Seeking.

So looking for some new sites to try. Had a trip to SD this past weekend, almost had this 19 yr old for 400, found her on a new site. https://sugarlifenow.com/profile/Aria/.

Of course she ghosted me when I got to SD.I tried to sign up, they want a video to verify you. I did that, sorta, w / a half-face shot, just like my profile pics (of someone who looks like me). Their rate is $30 / mo, what have you used to pay with? Prepaid cards?

MrBlueSea
12-12-24, 00:30
I tried to sign up, they want a video to verify you. I did that, sorta, w / a half-face shot, just like my profile pics (of someone who looks like me). Their rate is $30 / mo, what have you used to pay with? Prepaid cards?I used a mastercard, wasn't a problem as they use CCBill which does the processing for OnlyFans. I was wondering about the video also, so I texted their number, and surprisingly someone got back to me right away and explained the verification is not mandatory, just if you want the badge, so I skipped it.

Jendabaze
12-12-24, 02:03
So it finally happened. 4 years and my account got banned. Super pissed because it wasn't even over something said in chat. I was accused of threatening a member and then provided with zero evidence, just banned. Incredibly frustrated by this. I'm going to take a little sabbatical and then I'll probably get a new iPhone and make my account again.My account was suspended after 8 years. I tried a different credit card (under my name) , but it didn't work so I tried Google pay and I was able to open a new account. No need to change IP address or a new phone number or email.

UnknownSD
12-12-24, 10:15
My account was suspended after 8 years. I tried a different credit card (under my name) , but it didn't work so I tried Google pay and I was able to open a new account. No need to change IP address or a new phone number or email.Google Pay doesn't work anymore. They'll ask you to verify your account after payment. If your name is blacklisted, you won't pass the verification.

FarFarAway
12-12-24, 11:00
I used a mastercard, wasn't a problem as they use CCBill which does the processing for OnlyFans. I was wondering about the video also, so I texted their number, and surprisingly someone got back to me right away and explained the verification is not mandatory, just if you want the badge, so I skipped it.Yeah, I need to use a prepaid, I can't take any risk at all of that charge on my IRL card and the site having my actual name. The AM hack and all.

UnknownSD
12-12-24, 16:59
Here's a blonde girl for you guys. She lives near Hollywood. Photos are her but she's probably in her late 30's or 40's. She has wrinkles on her face. She's not new to sugar dating or SA. Allowance negotiable.

https://members.seeking.com/member/4e34a4ec-bdcf-4f91-ab08-fd74f67fef2e

UnknownSD
12-12-24, 17:03
Here's a blonde girl for you guys. She's been on SA for many years now. She's looking for a monthly allowance upfront. She doesn't do ppm. Also, she asks for 300 for an M&G for dinner at an upscale restaurant. She doesn't meet for coffee. Unverified.

https://members.seeking.com/member/237a34a7-21ac-4a3f-b874-1e5300549ed8

UnknownSD
12-12-24, 17:07
Here's a blonde girl for you guys. She's been on SA for over 6 years, on and off. She's a model and actress but is now doing casting. She asks for a very high allowance and is very selective. You'll probably not meet her.

https://members.seeking.com/member/74be9c44-90fa-4eab-802d-0e5cde59c2b2

UnknownSD
12-12-24, 17:12
Here's a white girl for you guys. She lives near Hermosa Beach. Photos are accurate. She has bad complexion and bad teeth. Easy to M&G. Allowance negotiable.

https://members.seeking.com/member/3ad4cc5c-8407-4159-912f-e3d8660d612d

MrBlueSea
12-12-24, 21:10
Yeah, I need to use a prepaid, I can't take any risk at all of that charge on my IRL card and the site having my actual name. The AM hack and all.Pretty sure they do, but good question, I will ask their support for you.

AmgPhilly63
12-12-24, 21:38
Here's a white girl for you guys. She lives near Hermosa Beach. Photos are accurate. She has bad complexion and bad teeth. Easy to M&G. Allowance negotiable.

https://members.seeking.com/member/3ad4cc5c-8407-4159-912f-e3d8660d612dShe down for raw?

StudBucket
12-13-24, 01:55
NEW ON SEEKING. Introducing the Selfie Liveness Check.

To make this happen, we are rolling out a new feature: the Selfie Liveness Check.

Here's how it works:

During the signup process, new users will briefly show their face via their phone or computer camera.

Seeking's artificial intelligence will analyze the video to confirm the person signing up is real and matches their profile photos.

This process is quick, private, and secure.

This feature is currently being tested and will soon be rolled out to the community in phases. With this and other initiatives, we are striving to build the most trusted online dating experience in the industry.This is great news and well overdue; wish they made all the girls verify their profiles. I spend hours weeding through fake profiles each month.

UnknownSD
12-13-24, 10:51
She down for raw?You'll have to discuss that with her.

Stolper
12-13-24, 14:31
This is great news and well overdue; wish they made all the girls verify their profiles. I spend hours weeding through fake profiles each month.We sure this is only targeted to SBs? The announcement made it seem like it would target all new users (SDs and SBs), which would be a huge privacy concern. I would personally quit SA if they made me do this.

FarFarAway
12-13-24, 17:21
This is great news and well overdue; wish they made all the girls verify their profiles. I spend hours weeding through fake profiles each month.HG's point, though is that this may be required of guys, and those of us unwilling to give up personal info will be SOL.

Lexx1
12-13-24, 20:41
HG's point, though is that this may be required of guys, and those of us unwilling to give up personal info will be SOL.Until we know what the full process will be like. It sounds like it's only a quick video selfie to match your uploaded photos. And it says it's private. Meaning only for Seeking's temporary use and their eyes only. Not meant to show the selfie video on public profile. There's no mention of hard PII info such as SSN, Name, Address, etc. being gathered. So a bit early to get paranoid over it. And it may not be required of long established members. It said for new users/members.

I think it's a great thing as well. Get rid of bots, catfishes, spammers, etc. It may not reduce it 100% but it's a good start. The only thing it won't work against is full on prostitutes signing up as a fresh sugarbaby. The pro will simply do the selfie video. Then again though there are career sugarbabies that keep returning. Which at that point I call them prostitutes as well. Side gig or main gig as a prostitute.

TnaStylez
12-13-24, 22:31
We sure this is only targeted to SBs? The announcement made it seem like it would target all new users (SDs and SBs), which would be a huge privacy concern. I would personally quit SA if they made me do this.Privacy is the biggest concern. Remember the Ashley Madison data breach?

Jendabaze
12-13-24, 23:14
Google Pay doesn't work anymore. They'll ask you to verify your account after payment. If your name is blacklisted, you won't pass the verification.Google pay worked for me. There was no need for verification. The only issue was I tried to use a fake public picture and it was flagged and I was required to picture by scanning the front and back of my driver's license. A few minutes later my profile was active with my real age. After my membership expired I created a different profile using Google pay (5 days ago) with no issues or verification.

I'm still not sure how they have blacklisted me? I was denied creating a profile by using my name and CC but I was able to create a profile by using Google pay and I'd verification?

FarFarAway
12-14-24, 01:08
Until we know what the full process will be like. It sounds like it's only a quick video selfie to match your uploaded photos. And it says it's private. Meaning only for Seeking's temporary use and their eyes only. Not meant to show the selfie video on public profile. There's no mention of hard PII info such as SSN, Name, Address, etc. being gathered. So a bit early to get paranoid over it. And it may not be required of long established members. It said for new users/members.

I think it's a great thing as well. Get rid of bots, catfishes, spammers, etc. It may not reduce it 100% but it's a good start. The only thing it won't work against is full on prostitutes signing up as a fresh sugarbaby. The pro will simply do the selfie video. Then again though there are career sugarbabies that keep returning. Which at that point I call them prostitutes as well. Side gig or main gig as a prostitute."video selfie to match your uploaded photos".

Loser right off. My uploaded photos aren't me for real. I would never put my real photos on any dating site, in my case b / c I have a SO. I'd recommend anyone else also refuse to do it. Seeking needs to continually keep in mind that half its paying customers are married, and facilitate their being on the site (payments, requirements) .

I have two profiles, both a few years old. I am pretty observant of all the rules, I don't think I ought to get banned, yet I did get spanked a about a year ago, and had to watch their TOS video. I presume I am on probation, meaning any future transgression and I am instantly banned. We all know what a big deal it is to get banned. So, I don't think this is a great thing. It might be neutral. The same things that keep scammer 'girls' off will keep me off. And I pay, they don't.

MrBlueSea
12-14-24, 02:21
Yeah, I need to use a prepaid, I can't take any risk at all of that charge on my IRL card and the site having my actual name. The AM hack and all.According to their support, any prepaid MC works now, with VISA coming in about 2 weeks.

UnknownSD
12-14-24, 12:16
Google pay worked for me. There was no need for verification. The only issue was I tried to use a fake public picture and it was flagged and I was required to picture by scanning the front and back of my driver's license. A few minutes later my profile was active with my real age. After my membership expired I created a different profile using Google pay (5 days ago) with no issues or verification.

I'm still not sure how they have blacklisted me? I was denied creating a profile by using my name and CC but I was able to create a profile by using Google pay and I'd verification?What I meant was the Google Pay payment will go through but afterwards they'll ask you to upload your Driver's License to verify yourself. Some users will be asked and some not. I'm not sure if it's random.

Lexx1
12-14-24, 13:15
"video selfie to match your uploaded photos".

Loser right off. My uploaded photos aren't me for real. I would never put my real photos on any dating site, in my case b / c I have a SO. I'd recommend anyone else also refuse to do it. Seeking needs to continually keep in mind that half its paying customers are married, and facilitate their being on the site (payments, requirements) .

I have two profiles, both a few years old. I am pretty observant of all the rules, I don't think I ought to get banned, yet I did get spanked a about a year ago, and had to watch their TOS video. I presume I am on probation, meaning any future transgression and I am instantly banned. We all know what a big deal it is to get banned. So, I don't think this is a great thing. It might be neutral. The same things that keep scammer 'girls' off will keep me off. And I pay, they don't.Then we'll have to wait and see if it's required of established members which for the moment sounds like it is not. I don't have an issue using real pics even if I did have a SO. The only time I might consider using fake pics is if I had young children that are not 18 yet. I wouldn't want to hurt them if caught. But adults are adults and there's a reason people cheat, shit happens. Having young kids is a different story.

CuriousVaMan
12-14-24, 13:37
So, I don't even have a profile picture. If challenged, think I should hold up a picture of a gray silhouette in front of my camera? LOL.

I'm in FFA's boat. I trust existing members are exempt. While I agree such a process makes sense for an unpaying member (all SBs), It doesn't make sense for a paying member (most SDs). The problem with Seeking is there is no barrier to entry for SBs, therefore all the bot, scammers etc.


"video selfie to match your uploaded photos".

Loser right off. My uploaded photos aren't me for real. I would never put my real photos on any dating site, in my case b / c I have a SO. I'd recommend anyone else also refuse to do it. Seeking needs to continually keep in mind that half its paying customers are married, and facilitate their being on the site (payments, requirements) .

Lexx1
12-14-24, 14:14
So, I don't even have a profile picture. If challenged, think I should hold up a picture of a gray silhouette in front of my camera? LOL.

I'm in FFA's boat. I trust existing members are exempt. While I agree such a process makes sense for an unpaying member (all SBs), It doesn't make sense for a paying member (most SDs). The problem with Seeking is there is no barrier to entry for SBs, therefore all the bot, scammers etc.You do realize this was implemented more for the sugarbaby side than for the sugardaddy. To reduce fake, bot, catfish sugarbabies. Also if you think about it. If you're a sugardaddy using fake pics. Then you're contributing to the catfish issue as well. Because you're a catfish as well using fake pics of yourself. I'm pretty sure the real sugarbabies would appreciate also knowing the sugardaddy they're talking to is using pics that accurately represent who they're taking to.

Plus remember you can keep your pics private until you choose to reveal them to a POT. It's not like they need to be kept public on blast for anyone to view.

FarFarAway
12-14-24, 15:07
You do realize this was implemented more for the sugarbaby side than for the sugardaddy. To reduce fake, bot, catfish sugarbabies. Also if you think about it. If you're a sugardaddy using fake pics. Then you're contributing to the catfish issue as well. Because you're a catfish as well using fake pics of yourself. I'm pretty sure the real sugarbabies would appreciate also knowing the sugardaddy they're talking to is using pics that accurately represent who they're taking to.

Plus remember you can keep your pics private until you choose to reveal them to a POT. It's not like they need to be kept public on blast for anyone to view.If 'girls' had to pay like $1 to get a profile, this would seriously cut down the fake profiles.

You do know of the AM hack, right? Never exclude this could happen on seeking. Though they are better than most dating sites.

I don't try to hornswoggle girls. I have a photo of someone who does look like me and is about my age, it isn't George Clooney. If you need to find a photo of someone who looks like you but isn't you, you can use some of the facial recognition sites. I have to run my IRL photos that I supply to POTs through those sites sometimes, just to make sure no one out there has something that finds the real me. It is interesting that there are guys out there who do look sort of like me, and I wouldn't be uncomfortable putting those pics up there if I had to. So, I don't believe I contribute to any issues w / catfishing. I want a real / enjoyable relationship w / my SBs, I am not trying to fake anyone out.

I chop off the top of my face of my 'fake' pics, so it is difficult to prove absolutely that they aren't me.

One virtue to video verification. You don't get something, even if you have the actual photo in electronic form, that you can use with a facial recognition site to find someone's IRL identity.

Chupacabra
12-14-24, 16:27
You do realize this was implemented more for the sugarbaby side than for the sugardaddy. To reduce fake, bot, catfish sugarbabies. Also if you think about it. If you're a sugardaddy using fake pics. Then you're contributing to the catfish issue as well. Because you're a catfish as well using fake pics of yourself. I'm pretty sure the real sugarbabies would appreciate also knowing the sugardaddy they're talking to is using pics that accurately represent who they're taking to.

Plus remember you can keep your pics private until you choose to reveal them to a POT. It's not like they need to be kept public on blast for anyone to view.On the baby side, this is going to scare off the tranny catfishes and the Chinese / indian scammers and bots (no change in supply). On the daddy side, it's going to scare off the married guys and some of the extremely socially awkward (less demand). Sounds like a win for the single dirtbags! El yay!

Lexx1
12-14-24, 19:28
On the baby side, this is going to scare off the tranny catfishes and the Chinese / indian scammers and bots (no change in supply). On the daddy side, it's going to scare off the married guys and some of the extremely socially awkward (less demand). Sounds like a win for the single dirtbags! El yay!LOL I feel ya on the single daddy side of things. I still civie date girls but don't have one I call a serious GF at the moment. Whenever I've had a true loving GF. I don't cheat. No need to when you have a beautiful woman that loves you and fucks you right at home. Free pussy is the best pussy.

Plus I really don't understand guys sometimes that have a SO being paranoid about shit when they're cheating. A woman is actually way more sneaky, way better at covering their tracks and 10 steps ahead of us as men in the cheating game. Some guys here sneaking around like they're CIA secret agents thinking they're actually covering their tracks. I've fucked enough women that had SOs such as BFs and husbands. Sometimes even in their own homes and on their bed.
And heard their stories knowing that their man is cheating on them. But they don't say anything for one reason or another. Fellas you can do all you want to try and cover your tracks. But trust your SO probably knows you're cheating. They can even smell another woman's scent on you and another woman's pussy on you from a mile away. No matter what you do showering wise and mouthwash wise.

Chupacabra
12-14-24, 22:39
Fellas you can do all you want to try and cover your tracks. But trust your SO probably knows you're cheating. They can even smell another woman's scent on you and another woman's pussy on you from a mile away. No matter what you do showering wise and mouthwash wise.This is so true, they are like bloodhounds and as we all know (by now) they have an extremely guilty conscious and paranoia because they are 10 X more shady, disloyal and selfish than any man could ever dream. LOL The better half, my ass! I look back on my old white-knight younger self and just smh. I have never felt such relief mongering after I got divorced and didn't have to hide anything. Heavy perfume? No problem! Can you put massage oil on me? Why of course, that sounds great! Threatening in broken engrish to come behead me and my family for "wasting your girl's time"? By all means, good sir, please stop by! Why? Because I'm freeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee! I'm the William Wallace of paid poon.

I haven't aged a year since I've been single. Sleep like a baby too.

FarFarAway
12-15-24, 11:48
IDK how some make such categorical statements. There are as many attitudes / sensitivities as women. I had a SO who had been relentlessly cheated on by an ex-hubby. For the first 15 years of our relationship, she constantly accused me of stepping out on her. It was never true. Then I realized, she has no clue. And there was not the right sort of intimate relationship. So I then began to (very discreetly) see others. She was very very rarely right. She suspected when I was innocent, and vice versa.

RanManCan
12-15-24, 14:18
This is so true, they are like bloodhounds and as we all know (by now) they have an extremely guilty conscious and paranoia because they are 10 X more shady, disloyal and selfish than any man could ever dream. LOL The better half, my ass! I look back on my old white-knight younger self and just smh. I have never felt such relief mongering after I got divorced and didn't have to hide anything. Heavy perfume? No problem! Can you put massage oil on me? Why of course, that sounds great! Threatening in broken engrish to come behead me and my family for "wasting your girl's time"? By all means, good sir, please stop by! Why? Because I'm freeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee! I'm the William Wallace of paid poon.

I haven't aged a year since I've been single. Sleep like a baby too.

I 2nd this motion!

I'm younger now than when I got divorced. And I look it too!

"By all means, good sir, please stop by!" !!!

MrBlueSea
12-15-24, 14:59
Not having any luck on SB, and it seems you have to limit how many you can interact with or it gets pricey.

Does anyone have info on someone in Phoenix? Have to go there for work next week.

Happy to trade.

UnknownSD
12-15-24, 15:35
Not having any luck on SB, and it seems you have to limit how many you can interact with or it gets pricey.

Does anyone have info on someone in Phoenix? Have to go there for work next week.

Happy to trade.Yes, I have plenty but this is not the Arizona thread so I didn't post here.

Chupacabra
12-15-24, 17:00
I 2nd this motion!

I'm younger now than when I got divorced. And I look it too!

"By all means, good sir, please stop by!" !!!*high five*.

TnaStylez
12-15-24, 18:44
LOL I feel ya on the single daddy side of things. I still civie date girls but don't have one I call a serious GF at the moment. Whenever I've had a true loving GF. I don't cheat. No need to when you have a beautiful woman that loves you and fucks you right at home. Free pussy is the best pussy.

Plus I really don't understand guys sometimes that have a SO being paranoid about shit when they're cheating. A woman is actually way more sneaky, way better at covering their tracks and 10 steps ahead of us as men in the cheating game. Some guys here sneaking around like they're CIA secret agents thinking they're actually covering their tracks. I've fucked enough women that had SOs such as BFs and husbands. Sometimes even in their own homes and on their bed.
And heard their stories knowing that their man is cheating on them. But they don't say anything for one reason or another. Fellas you can do all you want to try and cover your tracks. But trust your SO probably knows you're cheating. They can even smell another woman's scent on you and another woman's pussy on you from a mile away. No matter what you do showering wise and mouthwash wise.Speaking from an evolutionary perspective you are probably correct. From my experience most women most likely suspect, but rationalize to themselves, just look at Bill and Hillary LOL. But kudos to the men that try to be respectful to their mates and family by being careful and covering their tracks.

Assaholic
12-16-24, 04:00
They can even smell another woman's scent on you and another woman's pussy on you from a mile away. No matter what you do showering wise and mouthwash wise.Long time ago, my ATF at the time, first thing she said to me was "I smell another woman on you". Holy crap, it was 2 days and 3 showers later, and it was just an accidental HJ (long story).

Lexx1
12-16-24, 13:08
IDK how some make such categorical statements. There are as many attitudes / sensitivities as women. I had a SO who had been relentlessly cheated on by an ex-hubby. For the first 15 years of our relationship, she constantly accused me of stepping out on her. It was never true. Then I realized, she has no clue. And there was not the right sort of intimate relationship. So I then began to (very discreetly) see others. She was very very rarely right. She suspected when I was innocent, and vice versa.FarFarAway you have mentioned you're in your 70's. So your SOs have probably been in their 60's and above. I consider that generation of woman more classy and ladylike than the modern younger women I'm mostly referring to. But the smell on you that women can detect still applies to all women. Plus your scenario was an exception because she had been cheated on relentlessly under the sanctity of marriage. It was expected for her to be suspicious of every little thing. That the next man in her life was doing. Personally if I knew that woman's history I wouldn't have gotten involved with her. Because it would have been a constant losing uphill battle to be proving my innocence and faithfulness.

I still have some faith and hope that there are good women out there to have as a GF or wife. But it's getting harder to find them with the modern American woman. As I've said I still civie date usually 20 somethings to 30 somethings. I still want to have a kid or two. But in that age group in this day and age. Most just want to date around and not commit. And by date around meaning to fuck around. They want to get dicked down well but don't want to commit to a relationship. That's why I haven't found one yet to ask to be a GF. And why I actually look to non American women that have migrated here for a relationship. They usually still hold the traditional values of a woman. Instead of American women with their strong feminism and bullshit like the "me too" movement. It's hard out there nowadays for a strong hetero man to just be a normal man that loves women.

Lexx1
12-16-24, 13:24
Long time ago, my ATF at the time, first thing she said to me was "I smell another woman on you". Holy crap, it was 2 days and 3 showers later, and it was just an accidental HJ (long story).Lmao I believe it man. Some women are crazy. LOL.

Chupacabra
12-16-24, 14:55
SomeYou are such an optimist, Lex. A real glass is half-full kind of guy.

UnknownSD
12-16-24, 15:19
Here's a China girl for you guys. She's visiting LA and is currently staying at the 1 Hotel in WEHO. She's doing incall for 1200 ppm.

https://members.seeking.com/member/d59a77ad-6018-4b1a-b854-77372e57554b

FarFarAway
12-17-24, 10:55
Long time ago, my ATF at the time, first thing she said to me was "I smell another woman on you". Holy crap, it was 2 days and 3 showers later, and it was just an accidental HJ (long story).I'd guess 'smell' was a metaphor. It was a change in your demeanor / attitude that gave you away. I've experienced similar, thankfully, there was no real evidence. I had a SB once who was married, she used to say she needed to suck a lemon before she went home.

Lexx1
12-17-24, 17:21
Here's a China girl for you guys. She's visiting LA and is currently staying at the 1 Hotel in WEHO. She's doing incall for 1200 ppm.

https://members.seeking.com/member/d59a77ad-6018-4b1a-b854-77372e57554bShame that even normally cheap Chinese Asian pussy is crazy pricy now. One of my 18 year old Korean non-pros below is only 180 each fuck meet. Spend an average of 2 to 3 hours each time until were both worn out. Met her in public in Glendale. She takes the bus down to my house and we have our fun. First couple meets were in a nearby motel until she felt comfortable coming to my house. A non-pro is always the best bet to get a great girl at the lowest price and maximum bedroom fun. She's got a cute ass, super sweet personality, eager to please me and those tits are big natural D cups. All on a petite 5'2" frame, spinner material.

FarFarAway
12-18-24, 17:17
https://members.seeking.com/member/cc04b640-e66f-4f65-93e0-625d1f4150ea

If she doesn't get suspended. Spanish may be her savior.

Lexx1
12-18-24, 20:10
https://members.seeking.com/member/cc04b640-e66f-4f65-93e0-625d1f4150ea

If she doesn't get suspended. Spanish may be her savior.Preggo girls need help too. One of my preggo girls from a few years back was a inexpensive non-pro. 90 a meet and usually spent about two hours with her each time. 20 year old Latina with her first baby. Babydaddy bailed as typical for these young Latinas. Preggos can be freaks in bed, horny as fuck. She went nuts when I ate her out the first time and came a few times. Thanked me alot and complimented my pussy eating skills. And since preggo already, creampies galore and swallowing too. She was fun until she popped three months later. And then no more freaky fun. But she would put down that cute ass on me cowgirl. Girl could ride dick even being that far along.

Also some of these preggos are lactating too. I was weirded out trying titty milk the first time. But I am usually openminded and said fuck it. Man freshly regenerated titty milk is sweet and actually tastes good. lol Wish I had some chocolate chip cookies to dunk with some of my fuck meets with preggos over the years. lol They get turned on too, horny, you sucking their tits and that milk out.

FabricBuster
12-19-24, 09:23
Anyone who has used SB recently? What prepaid cards work? The one I use for SA doesn't workPlanning on branching out, but SB needs credit to message.

FarFarAway
12-19-24, 15:24
https://members.seeking.com/member/fa4fedb8-5ff4-4551-be33-bccfd00edd6c

A while back, I was pretty engaged in a comm exchange w / her. The odd thing is that there is someone going by this exact name selling photos / etc. On that OF site. I asked her about it, she denied it, it put the whole conversation in a negative light, and she doesn't respond anymore. Someone else might be able to persuade her.

MrBlueSea
12-20-24, 19:39
Yeah, I need to use a prepaid, I can't take any risk at all of that charge on my IRL card and the site having my actual name. The AM hack and all.Any problem with using a prepaid on seeking?

FarFarAway
12-21-24, 01:00
Any problem with using a prepaid on seeking?The perennial question. For a long time, OneVanilla was the brand to use. That is impossible to find now, and may not work.

Currently, prepaid debit cards issued by Blackhawk are reliable. Find them in Lowes, Home Depot, or Gelson's.

FabricBuster
12-21-24, 11:29
The perennial question. For a long time, OneVanilla was the brand to use. That is impossible to find now, and may not work.

Currently, prepaid debit cards issued by Blackhawk are reliable. Find them in Lowes, Home Depot, or Gelson's.These do work for seeking but not secret benefits. Do you use that too by any chance? Been trying to find ones that work there.

FarFarAway
12-22-24, 00:34
If you've got a regular, you need to get her a Christmas present. I wasn't able to see mine this week and I am traveling for the holiday, but I went by her apartment yesterday and left a Christmas card that include a Benji, and a Sephora gift card. I later got a text 'Such a sweet and thoughtful surprise!! I'm so not used to receiving gifts and that just made my day!' That is, many of these girls are not used to any sort of nice treatment from men, and a little goes a long way. I took that girl a Ralph's bouquet the first FC (she hosts), and she just has a great attitude from that. She isn't clingy, but she really feels like she has something, which makes the arrangement very workable for me.

CoolGuy818
12-22-24, 12:11
If you've got a regular, you need to get her a Christmas present. I wasn't able to see mine this week and I am traveling for the holiday, but I went by her apartment yesterday and left a Christmas card that include a Benji, and a Sephora gift card. I later got a text 'Such a sweet and thoughtful surprise!! I'm so not used to receiving gifts and that just made my day!' That is, many of these girls are not used to any sort of nice treatment from men, and a little goes a long way. I took that girl a Ralph's bouquet the first FC (she hosts), and she just has a great attitude from that. She isn't clingy, but she really feels like she has something, which makes the arrangement very workable for me.Being nice really goes a long way.

FarFarAway
12-22-24, 13:27
These do work for seeking but not secret benefits. Do you use that too by any chance? Been trying to find ones that work there.Several posters on other sugar threads say that Secret Benefits is a scam. There are no real women on there. They paid, messaged them, and never go replies. YMMV.

MrBlueSea
12-22-24, 15:54
The perennial question. For a long time, OneVanilla was the brand to use. That is impossible to find now, and may not work.

Currently, prepaid debit cards issued by Blackhawk are reliable. Find them in Lowes, Home Depot, or Gelson's.Do you have to register all pre-paid debit cards? What do you put in for name and address on seeking?

PlFouru99
12-23-24, 15:25
Wondering if anyone has any insight on this one.

https://www.sugardaddy.com/next/profile/ec0f91270dd62936

I've been texting with this one for a little while now. She seems nice and is willing to meet at her place. Any intel before we meet would be appreciated.

CouldntBeMe
12-23-24, 17:56
Wondering if anyone has any insight on this one.

https://www.sugardaddy.com/next/profile/ec0f91270dd62936

I've been texting with this one for a little while now. She seems nice and is willing to meet at her place. Any intel before we meet would be appreciated.Interesting. Site is a Rebrand of secretbenefits. There are occasionally legit people there. I like that she's verified. She looks familiar but not sure if I've seen her on Seeking. Obviously, Public meet first to make sure she's not whack in person. Please report back with Intel.

Chupacabra
12-24-24, 00:02
Interesting. Site is a Rebrand of secretbenefits. There are occasionally legit people there. I like that she's verified. She looks familiar but not sure if I've seen her on Seeking. Obviously, Public meet first to make sure she's not whack in person. Please report back with Intel.Looks like Ariana Grande if she was born with fetal alcohol syndrome. I like it.

RanManCan
12-24-24, 12:07
Interesting. Site is a Rebrand of secretbenefits. There are occasionally legit people there. I like that she's verified. She looks familiar but not sure if I've seen her on Seeking. Obviously, Public meet first to make sure she's not whack in person. Please report back with Intel.SugarDaddy.com and SecretBenefits.com are the exact same site, just different domains. You can even interchange the domain in the URL. . .

https://www.sugardaddy.com/next/profile/ec0f91270dd62936

https://www.secretbenefits.com/next/profile/ec0f91270dd62936

LadiesChoice
12-24-24, 23:11
I am a member of secretbenefits, and never heard of sugardaddy.com — until a girl I eventually got to texting with offline sent me a screenshot of my message to her with that URL.

By the way, she is real. And hot. While we haven't spent time BCD yet, we did have a M&G, and are working towards BCD. Crossing my fingers, anyways.


SugarDaddy.com and SecretBenefits.com are the exact same site, just different domains. You can even interchange the domain in the URL. . .

https://www.sugardaddy.com/next/profile/ec0f91270dd62936

https://www.secretbenefits.com/next/profile/ec0f91270dd62936

MrBlueSea
12-25-24, 15:35
Still trying to get back on seeking.

Using a VPN now.

But how do you get around the membership payment.

Where you have to put a name and address tied to.

The debit card?

ColoHobbyist
12-26-24, 02:53
Several posters on other sugar threads say that Secret Benefits is a scam. There are no real women on there. They paid, messaged them, and never go replies. YMMV.I repeatedly see this, but I've had real successes with SecretBenefits. Actually seeing a woman I met on there this weekend for our first overnight in fact. I do think the sign up process for women must be easier on SB because I have encountered more flakes, but they're real people who are flakes, as opposed to bots or scams. As always, YMWV.

LadiesChoice
12-27-24, 02:22
Don't be surprised if they require for some form of verification before they publish your profile.

I haven't paid in a long time, maybe 5 months, but browse often.

The other day their system required me to update my stagnant profile and use one of their verification methods — I chose Facebook, which required you to log into a FB account, so you might want to make sure you have one set up. The other options were LinkedIn, I'd or photo, so be prepared just in case.


Still trying to get back on seeking.

Using a VPN now.

But how do you get around the membership payment.

Where you have to put a name and address tied to.

The debit card?

MisterPnw
12-30-24, 17:56
https://members.seeking.com/member/98bf3fc2-db48-4fcd-bfee-9b7160926fed

Has anyone fucked Isabelle recently and has intel on her current rates? She seems to have changed her number from when I saw her two years ago would appreciate a hookup.

FarFarAway
12-30-24, 20:12
There is a film out by this name.

It is about a woman who needs to be submissive and has an affair to do it.

Given the common motivation of sugarbabies to be submissive, it might be entertaining, relevant, and illuminating.

The LA Times has a review today that analyzes the film from the perspective of a sex therapist. Sorta informative.

FarFarAway
12-30-24, 20:22
Don't be surprised if they require for some form of verification before they publish your profile.

I haven't paid in a long time, maybe 5 months, but browse often.

The other day their system required me to update my stagnant profile and use one of their verification methods I chose Facebook, which required you to log into a FB account, so you might want to make sure you have one set up. The other options were LinkedIn, I'd or photo, so be prepared just in case.A fake FB is a tough nut to crack. I think I might have one, I set up a FB Messenger some time ago, to interact w / a girl, and I think I can go to a profile based on that login.

Long ago, FB was a gold mine to find personal info on POTs. You could search their phone # on FB and it took you right to their profile.

JoeMahma
01-01-25, 15:02
https://members.seeking.com/member/98bf3fc2-db48-4fcd-bfee-9b7160926fed

Has anyone fucked Isabelle recently and has intel on her current rates? She seems to have changed her number from when I saw her two years ago would appreciate a hookup.Any luck with this?

Ace McNasty
01-03-25, 13:58
I am a member of secretbenefits, and never heard of

sugardaddy.com

until a girl I eventually got to texting with offline sent me a screenshot of my message to her with that URL.I signed up on all these SD-SB sites long time ago. I just don't talk about them and post mainly on the Hx and PD forums. It has worked for me in LV that is why my default location there is set to the 702 and 725.

MisterPnw
01-03-25, 16:13
Any luck with this?Yeah she's still active and seeing people.

FarFarAway
01-04-25, 15:52
I've noted some verbiage in girl's profiles on seeking, it took me some time to figure it out. They say 'feminine energy' or 'feminine essence', sometimes juxtaposed with masculine the same.

What they are really meaning there, is pretty much being submissive, a theme we're all familiar with.

Ace McNasty
01-05-25, 16:29
This is how your exhausted SB should look at you after spraying 3 days worth of daddy deposit all over her face and bedsheets LOL.

Murrican
01-06-25, 11:12
This is how your exhausted SB should look at you after spraying 3 days worth of daddy deposit all over her face and bedsheets LOL.I have to admit this made my day.

Murrican
01-06-25, 11:15
I've noted some verbiage in girl's profiles on seeking, it took me some time to figure it out. They say 'feminine energy' or 'feminine essence', sometimes juxtaposed with masculine the same.

What they are really meaning there, is pretty much being submissive, a theme we're all familiar with.A few more.

Platonic means don't waste your time.

I know what I'm worth means don't waste your time.

Any mention of Findom means don't waste your time.

Lexx1
01-06-25, 13:37
A few more.

Platonic means don't waste your time.

I know what I'm worth means don't waste your time.

Any mention of Findom means don't waste your time.That last one some dudes are into. Falls under simp category. Being a paypig and other silly terms. LOL I laugh when I see that on a girls profile or ad. Then on to the next girl!

Ace McNasty
01-07-25, 11:52
I love watching a girl pee in the toilet. And I like the sound. So far we fucked 9 times in 4 days. That's more than I did all last month. lol


Nope. Just love watching them pee. Doesn't get me hard. It's more of a bonding experience. If a girl will let you watch, she'll probably let you do a few other things too. Girls are very self conscious, its a way to break down their barriers, and have a little fun at the same time.Yup me too. I take it one step further. While my baby is peeing in the potty, daddy stands over her and shoves his angry cock deep in her purty mouf. The sound of the girl tinkle combined with the sound of sucking is such a huge turn on!


I once read that people who have sex in their socks are overall better lovers. I never take mine off. Something about they're just more comfortable with themselves overall. I have had more than a few that don't take them off... but eventually I always do as I like the foot action.Socks during secks LOL.

I never take my socks off LOL. Them hotel floors and carpets be so filthy!

FreightGod
01-07-25, 12:24
Yup me too. I take it one step further. While my baby is peeing in the potty, daddy stands over her and shoves his angry cock deep in her purty mouf. The sound of the girl tinkle combined with the sound of sucking is such a huge turn on!

Socks during secks LOL.

I never take my socks off LOL. Them hotel floors and carpets be so filthy!What's her link?

Mosbo333
01-08-25, 10:03
Yeah she's still active and seeing people.Does she go raw?

MisterPnw
01-09-25, 12:53
Does she go raw?Yeah, but no CIP.

IfritDave
01-09-25, 23:39
The perennial question. For a long time, OneVanilla was the brand to use. That is impossible to find now, and may not work.

Currently, prepaid debit cards issued by Blackhawk are reliable. Find them in Lowes, Home Depot, or Gelson's.Dude I've looked all over the place for these and couldn't find anything from Blackhawk that was a prepaid debit card. When's the last time you bought one of these? Would be super grateful for more guidance on what I should be looking for. Do they actually say "Visa" or "Mastercard" on them?

Appreciate any help on this thanks guys.

Murrican
01-11-25, 01:03
Yup me too. I take it one step further. While my baby is peeing in the potty, daddy stands over her and shoves his angry cock deep in her purty mouf. The sound of the girl tinkle combined with the sound of sucking is such a huge turn on!

Socks during secks LOL.

I never take my socks off LOL. Them hotel floors and carpets be so filthy!Great photos there.

Amazing tits.

Sabio
01-13-25, 06:00
Dude I've looked all over the place for these and couldn't find anything from Blackhawk that was a prepaid debit card. When's the last time you bought one of these? Would be super grateful for more guidance on what I should be looking for. Do they actually say "Visa" or "Mastercard" on them?

Appreciate any help on this thanks guys.From another board:

Card: Visa gift card by Blackhawk bought in cash at Home Depot. The package has a huge "VISA" display, on the corner it says $20-$200 and at the bottom it says "Distributed and Serviced by Blackhawk Network".

Registration: I went to their website (mygiftcardmall.com) and registered with a fake name and zip code and my anonymous email address. I went through verifying the email address when they sent a code to that email address.

Payment: I logged into my Seeking account and entered the card information, same name and zip code, and a dummy street address.

FarFarAway
01-14-25, 13:51
It is hard to believe this is true, but I think it is. I was messaging a new profile that appeared this morning, "Christina", a 42 YO from Irvine. The profile was started in 2018. 'Her' first reply was a familiar 'I don't check here often. Would you mind texting? If you don't mind, leave your # and I'll text you'.

I made a short excuse why I wanted to do a little messaging on the site before taking it to text, because that is a MO of a scammer, and I was immediately blocked, providing instant probative evidence that it was indeed a scammer.

It is amazing this happened with a profile this old. I wonder if women get contacted with offers to take over their old profiles for dough. It is hard to believe that someone set up a 'sleeper' profile with that much forethought.

FarFarAway
01-14-25, 13:58
I often have 'the talk' w / POTs at the M&G about the dynamic they prefer w / a guy, and many will say they are submissive. Once in the FC, though, they turn out to be just not very initiative-taking, it isn't that they want to be spanked or choked.

I met a 20's Latina a few weeks back, a very tiny spinner, quite quite pretty. The M&G convo was the usual. But I didn't really bring special 'equipment' to the FC. However, I applied a classic move. I got her on her back, dangling her head off the edge of the bed, and proceeded to stand there and bang her mouth. This particular girl gagged and could not take much of this, despite having provided a quite reasonable BBBJ. And, outstanding BLS. So, I wrote her off the submissive list. Leave the rope at home. She just wants me to tell her what sex acts are next, not to defile her.

Murrican
01-15-25, 11:24
It is hard to believe this is true, but I think it is. I was messaging a new profile that appeared this morning, "Christina", a 42 YO from Irvine. The profile was started in 2018. 'Her' first reply was a familiar 'I don't check here often. Would you mind texting? If you don't mind, leave your # and I'll text you'.

I made a short excuse why I wanted to do a little messaging on the site before taking it to text, because that is a MO of a scammer, and I was immediately blocked, providing instant probative evidence that it was indeed a scammer.

It is amazing this happened with a profile this old. I wonder if women get contacted with offers to take over their old profiles for dough. It is hard to believe that someone set up a 'sleeper' profile with that much forethought.I don't get it. How was saying you wanted to talk more on the platform flagged as scammer? That doesn't make sense. What did they think that meant.

StevenWalker
01-16-25, 00:11
Guys it happened for the first time in 10 years in this hobby. I paid a girl a few hours ahead and she flaked last minute and ghosted. I saw this girls 5 ish times before. We were going to meet again but then she flaked and never saw me again and won't give me the money back. I'm not sure what to do. I have her real name, number, social media, parents, friends etc (she has my number as well). I'm not really the one to retaliate but I'm really upset with how flakey women have been the last few years. I'm getting fed up and play with the idea of revenge. But I don't know.

FarFarAway
01-16-25, 02:28
I don't get it. How was saying you wanted to talk more on the platform flagged as scammer? That doesn't make sense. What did they think that meant.I didn't say that.

The person on the other end of the profile blocked me, the website didn't do anything to me.

Murrican
01-16-25, 12:35
Guys it happened for the first time in 10 years in this hobby. I paid a girl a few hours ahead and she flaked last minute and ghosted. I saw this girls 5 ish times before. We were going to meet again but then she flaked and never saw me again and won't give me the money back. I'm not sure what to do. I have her real name, number, social media, parents, friends etc (she has my number as well). I'm not really the one to retaliate but I'm really upset with how flakey women have been the last few years. I'm getting fed up and play with the idea of revenge. But I don't know.Some version of that has happened to all of us. It's a rite of passage. Everyone is too smart to have it happen to them until it does.

What should you do? Nothing. Walk away. Chalk it up to experience. It's a minor speed bump in life.

We live in a world where any action you take could be met with retribution. Claims of things you've done. If you enter her personal life she may do something crazy and then you're in serious shit.

This is a small, cheap, annoying lesson. Seriously just walk away and thank the lucky stars it's you who is losing the money instead of living the life of the other person who has to do such things for money. That's the real tragedy.

Murrican
01-16-25, 12:38
I didn't say that.

The person on the other end of the profile blocked me, the website didn't do anything to me.

Oh that makes more sense.

I think I was just reading about being canceled on the site on a different forum and that’s where my head was.

Yeah that was clearly scammerville

MrBlueSea
01-16-25, 12:44
Some version of that has happened to all of us. It's a rite of passage. Everyone is too smart to have it happen to them until it does.

What should you do? Nothing. Walk away. Chalk it up to experience. It's a minor speed bump in life.

We live in a world where any action you take could be met with retribution. Claims of things you've done. If you enter her personal life she may do something crazy and then you're in serious shit.

This is a small, cheap, annoying lesson. Seriously just walk away and thank the lucky stars it's you who is losing the money instead of living the life of the other person who has to do such things for money. That's the real tragedy.I would try and play it off now like it doesn't matter, and that you want to see her again and are happy to give her more. If it works and she meets, give her a nice hard session, and of course no allowance. I have had the same thing happen and was able to get my revenge by acting like I didn't care. Hopefully she doesn't know where you live.

Ace McNasty
01-16-25, 16:47
Great photos there.

Amazing tits.Her natural tits are as big as her sweet tight pussy is small. Best combo ever!

Maybe there are dudes out there who prefer the reverse--small tits and large wide pussy LOL.

Maria huge natural tits small pussy (https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fo/bah8k1bf7po9tzj5ddsqj/ABPvvAjoGp_zsAOA8oIJvu4?rlkey=bfcecz7o7a686kb5efimozioy&st=wxrdpbav&dl=0)

RanManCan
01-16-25, 17:55
Just me or is Seeking unusually slow the last month or two.

Often, it doesn't load the page I click on, or says "Profile Not Available" when a refresh brings the profile up just fine.

Also, all my saved searches seem to have the location/distance missing, so it shows everyone in the world . . . othertimes it defaults to 1 mile, showing almost no matching profiles.

FarFarAway
01-17-25, 09:57
Just me or is Seeking unusually slow the last month or two.

Often, it doesn't load the page I click on, or says "Profile Not Available" when a refresh brings the profile up just fine.

Also, all my saved searches seem to have the location/distance missing, so it shows everyone in the world . . . othertimes it defaults to 1 mile, showing almost no matching profiles.Same here. And it has been this way a while. I put in a help request on this topic this week. I don't recall all their practices, perhaps they don't send an acknowledging email, but I didn't get one. That might be another bug.

I wondered if it might be browser related. Currently I use Brave on a Mac, people using different browsers might have different experience. Oh, and then there is the mobile app. I don't want to burden my burner, so I don't even have that installed. I have tried Safari at times, I thought it was even worse for the problem where you click a profile in a list and get that PNA page.

Murrican
01-17-25, 13:06
Just me or is Seeking unusually slow the last month or two.

Often, it doesn't load the page I click on, or says "Profile Not Available" when a refresh brings the profile up just fine.

Also, all my saved searches seem to have the location/distance missing, so it shows everyone in the world . . . othertimes it defaults to 1 mile, showing almost no matching profiles.Same.

And I often try to login from one browser, and it doesn't work, then I try another, and it doesn't work, and then I try another and it works.

They are clearly making a lot of changes to their business model, and also technology, and some of these things are not working.

Also, these requests to do media appearances? Who the hell is going to do that?

Murrican
01-17-25, 13:12
give her a nice hard session, and of course no allowance. .All respect man but this is plain awful advice. I repeat what I said. We live in a world where girls can make allegations and you are guilty until private. Even if the girl doesn't know where you live, it's not exactly hard to track you if you use a hotel room or an Airbnb. Many girls will lie for retribution. Tricking a girl to have sex with you is playing with fire and gasoline. OP needs to walk away. Getting tricked sucks. Tricking a girl back is just asking for an escalation you might not be able to back down from. Once the snowball gathers enough speed sometimes it's just going to keep rolling and you wish you hadn't pushed it down the hill.

Lexx1
01-17-25, 17:42
Guys it happened for the first time in 10 years in this hobby. I paid a girl a few hours ahead and she flaked last minute and ghosted. I saw this girls 5 ish times before. We were going to meet again but then she flaked and never saw me again and won't give me the money back. I'm not sure what to do. I have her real name, number, social media, parents, friends etc (she has my number as well). I'm not really the one to retaliate but I'm really upset with how flakey women have been the last few years. I'm getting fed up and play with the idea of revenge. But I don't know.Thought you found your Asian queen a few months ago and said you were done! LOL.

This happened to me once. Regular baby I was seeing for almost a year. Then she flaked and stopped contact after I gave her a small advance. Happened early on in my nonpro / sugaring game. Rookie mistake. So I just took it as lesson learned. And to only do PPM 100% going forward. No more advance or weekly arrangements. ONLY PPM! It keeps the girl honest and you honest.

Guys this goes back to remembering these girls are not our real girlfriends. You do not pay to have a real girlfriend or for love, ever. These girls are fucking us and PRETENDING to be LIKE a girlfriend. And ONLY because we are PAYING them. Always remember that. These girls do not need to have any loyalty to us. Just like we don't need to, to them. This is always no strings attached. Don't get suckered.

No revenge to be had here. You could get in big legal trouble if you do. Remember what we're doing giving these girls money to have sex with us. Is considered prostitution under the law, cut and dry. So were already engaging technically in prostitution. So that's illegal and you want to do something bad against this chic. That's two big NOs! Take it as a lesson learned and move on.

MrBlueSea
01-18-25, 02:53
All respect man but this is plain awful advice. I repeat what I said. We live in a world where girls can make allegations and you are guilty until private. Even if the girl doesn't know where you live, it's not exactly hard to track you if you use a hotel room or an Airbnb. Many girls will lie for retribution. Tricking a girl to have sex with you is playing with fire and gasoline. OP needs to walk away. Getting tricked sucks. Tricking a girl back is just asking for an escalation you might not be able to back down from. Once the snowball gathers enough speed sometimes it's just going to keep rolling and you wish you hadn't pushed it down the hill.You are probably right, and I have had a few instances where the situation escalated, but I was able to calm them down and eventually work my way back in. On one occasion, we became 'friends' after some tome, and I wound up leaving her at a restaurant with the check. So much time had passed she couldn't even remember what she did. I didn't get a chance to fuck her again, but I got even. Like everyone, I've been burned before, but I hate being ticked, and if I can get even, I will, no matter how long it takes.

Murrican
01-18-25, 14:06
if I can get even, I will, no matter how long it takes.To each his own and all of that. Of course. But this is just an awful way to live. And especially bad in this game. You're dealing with idiot women. Not saying all women are idiots but seeking is hardly filled with data scientists. These are just stupid young women who do stupid things because they're stupid. They are usually not malicious. Most don't know which fork to use in a restaurant. Most don't have a passport. Most have dead end jobs and mundane lives. Just let it be. If a girl does something to upset you just be happy it's you who is the customer and not the seller in this game. It's much better on this side of the transaction, we can all agree. Imagine 21 year old you having to bang 50 year old women for 600 bucks and to have to maintain the illusion it's ok for you. Yes I know all the nuances here. Girls are different. Many of us aren't trolls. And on and on. But the point remains. Just walk away.

Murrican
01-18-25, 14:12
Guys this goes back to remembering these girls are not our real girlfriends. You do not pay to have a real girlfriend or for love, ever. These girls are fucking us and PRETENDING to be LIKE a girlfriend. And ONLY because we are PAYING them. Always remember that. These girls do not need to have any loyalty to us. Just like we don't need to, to them. This is always no strings attached. Don't get suckered.
.I have said this so many times. Amen. It irritates me when guys do things like refer to their SB as their girlfriend. I'm always that dude that flies in and pops their bubble. It's not my style but it's warranted. I always have to remind guys, if you stop paying and she stops coming, she ain't your girlfriend. And sometimes the insanity continues. Like a guy will say I keep giving her money because I want to not because I have to. The level of self delusion sometimes is psychopathic.

I have no problem with what this is. I'm almost 50. I know that 23 year old would rather be banging a 25 year old guy. I'm not stupid. I get it. I accept it. I have no illusions that it's only my money that got this started but now she really likes me for me and me alone. It's embarrassing to even write that. I'm actually a quite good looking guy and do well outside the seeking game. But to think some girl who was in high school a few years ago would do this without money is retarded.

Chupacabra
01-18-25, 14:26
Not saying all women are idiotsFine, if you won't then I will. All women are idiots. LOL Younger women are just double idiots.

I'm torn on this one. On the one hand, your advice is sound and moving on is the smart move. On the other hand, since almost every guy thinks and acts this way, these hoes get away with murder and nobody ever teaches them a lesson. So I feel like MrBlueSea is the hero we need, not the hero we deserve.

FarFarAway
01-18-25, 15:28
I have no problem with what this is. I'm almost 50. I know that 23 year old would rather be banging a 25 year old guy. I'm not stupid. I get it. I accept it. I have no illusions that it's only my money that got this started but now she really likes me for me and me alone. It's embarrassing to even write that. I'm actually a quite good looking guy and do well outside the seeking game. But to think some girl who was in high school a few years ago would do this without money is retarded.That's your experience, it isn't everyone's. I have had 3 long-term arrangements. I haven't been "w /" any of them in years, and we don't text more than yearly. Any of them would take my text or call and have a coffee or lunch w / me, on me. Gratis. At least partly because none of them have SOs. There's shared good times and friendship. I have this b / c that is what I go for, and it's hard to find, even more so now.

There are a few girls who are truly looking for age-gap relationships, or want a dom, or whatever. Those are the ones I want to tap.

FarFarAway
01-18-25, 15:33
Someone recently posted about getting a sugar FB page. I knew I had a FB messenger account w / my sugar email, so I checked if I could turn that into FB. It worked fine. I put up the same profile photo I use on seeking, my sugar name, and nothing else essentially.

The weird / scary part is all of the suggested friends FB lists for me. There are a lot lot lot of girls who I have banged on seeking, or otherwise been in touch with, and there are also a lot of dudes from Africa. So the latter are obviously the catfishers I have had some sort of communication with.

This just goes to show the pervasive nature of online tracking, and why we have to be absolutely scrupulous with keeping the sugar life separate from IRL. If someone from your daily life showed up on one of those friends suggestion lists for your sugar FB, woo, that could be bad (for those of us trying / needing to stay UTR).

MrBlueSea
01-18-25, 16:02
To each his own and all of that. Of course. But this is just an awful way to live. And especially bad in this game. You're dealing with idiot women. Not saying all women are idiots but seeking is hardly filled with data scientists. These are just stupid young women who do stupid things because they're stupid. They are usually not malicious. Most don't know which fork to use in a restaurant. Most don't have a passport. Most have dead end jobs and mundane lives. Just let it be. If a girl does something to upset you just be happy it's you who is the customer and not the seller in this game. It's much better on this side of the transaction, we can all agree. Imagine 21 year old you having to bang 50 year old women for 600 bucks and to have to maintain the illusion it's ok for you. Yes I know all the nuances here. Girls are different. Many of us aren't trolls. And on and on. But the point remains. Just walk away.I get what you are saying and agree with some of it. However, in my experience with this, the ones that pull shit typically are smart and have no problem ripping us off, and do it frequently. These girls are hardly innocent. I had one once pull a knife on me, and when I laughed about it and told her how hot she looked 'robbing' me, that alone was enough to make her want to see me again. Strange but true. I could go on with more examples. All I can say is, trying to 'correct' being taken advantage of is not an awful way to live, especially in this game.

Murrican
01-18-25, 18:29
I get what you are saying and agree with some of it. However, in my experience with this, the ones that pull shit typically are smart and have no problem ripping us off, and do it frequently. These girls are hardly innocent. I had one once pull a knife on me, and when I laughed about it and told her how hot she looked 'robbing' me, that alone was enough to make her want to see me again. Strange but true. I could go on with more examples. All I can say is, trying to 'correct' being taken advantage of is not an awful way to live, especially in this game.I mean you do you. As you will of course. To each his own.

But I stand by what I said. You exact revenge on enough girls and one day one of them is going to escalate in a way you can't undo. A rape allegation. A dox. Something. You have more to lose than they do in most cases. And they know that. I hope it doesn't happen to you. But you're playing with fire.

StevenWalker
01-18-25, 20:39
I need a new sugarbaby now but the quality is just scary bad. What happened to all the young girls? All these girls on seeking are over 30 lmao. I can smash those girls for free on dating apps. This is soo frustrating.

Lexx1
01-19-25, 14:37
That's your experience, it isn't everyone's. I have had 3 long-term arrangements. I haven't been "w /" any of them in years, and we don't text more than yearly. Any of them would take my text or call and have a coffee or lunch w / me, on me. Gratis. At least partly because none of them have SOs. There's shared good times and friendship. I have this b / c that is what I go for, and it's hard to find, even more so now.

There are a few girls who are truly looking for age-gap relationships, or want a dom, or whatever. Those are the ones I want to tap.Having a dinner, lunch or drinks is one thing after many years. I have plenty of girls I can do that with as well. But are you actually FCing them? For just the cost of that. You didn't mention that. Just because they're "keeping in touch". Doesn't mean anything. Girls that are babies keep in touch. Because they're hoping you're going to FC them again for cash. That's all. If you had said you were actually FCing them too. Then I'd give you props and cred.

So it just goes back to what Murrican and me are saying. These babies are only fucking us because we are paying them. And there's nothing wrong with that. That's what this game is about.

Lexx1
01-19-25, 14:47
I have said this so many times. Amen. It irritates me when guys do things like refer to their SB as their girlfriend. I'm always that dude that flies in and pops their bubble. It's not my style but it's warranted. I always have to remind guys, if you stop paying and she stops coming, she ain't your girlfriend. And sometimes the insanity continues. Like a guy will say I keep giving her money because I want to not because I have to. The level of self delusion sometimes is psychopathic.

I have no problem with what this is. I'm almost 50. I know that 23 year old would rather be banging a 25 year old guy. I'm not stupid. I get it. I accept it. I have no illusions that it's only my money that got this started but now she really likes me for me and me alone. It's embarrassing to even write that. I'm actually a quite good looking guy and do well outside the seeking game. But to think some girl who was in high school a few years ago would do this without money is retarded.LOL "The level of self delusion sometimes is psychopathic. " I call it psychopathetic!

Murrican you and me know the game man. Some guys really need to wake up.

TopGun9
01-19-25, 14:47
No matter what email I use (Gmail, Yahoo, Proton, etc.), I am never able to sign up for this damn site.

It keeps giving me an Invalid Email error. Do I need to use VPN?

Anyone else having success signing up for this site?

FarFarAway
01-19-25, 15:20
I'll just reiterate a wisdom past SDs have shared. Everyone gets the sugar bowl they are looking for. People's personal selections control that. If you go onto the site and treat POTs like escorts, that's who you'll get because they are definitely there. That doesn't mean all girls there are.

If you are aware of a place where a lot of desirable women willingly have great sex w / you without *any* expectation for anything in return (broadly defined. Hourly, or an evening at a show after dinner, up to a lifetime of financial support), you ought to publish that for everyone to partake. Otherwise, I'd just say every male-female relationship has value flowing in both directions. I provide non-tangible benefits to some, which they appreciate and ingratiate me to them; they are a contributing factor to why they'll still be on my contact list.

Like that old joke "would you sleep w / me for a million dollars. ? To spend a few hours w / a naked coed sharing her cross-country runner body w / me is definitely worth a few bucks, and because I am knowledgeable about the set-up and can afford the discretion of a hotel room, no one ever needs to know (her need), because our tryst is something that really floats her boat (as well as mine). I literally got a text yesterday from an old SB (20's) who just could not get out of her mind the oral I gave her 2+ years ago, and wanted a tryst. She's Tuesday. And she is obviously doing it willingly and not ONLY because she's getting a paycheck. That's why big allowances don't work for me, aside from just fiscal prudence.

As another wise guy here wrote (JZLizard), there is a cost for every sex act w / a woman. If you aren't providing funds explicitly, different expectations will develop, and the cost of those you might not be wiling to pay (especially if you have a SO).

Lexx1
01-19-25, 17:56
Who goes onto a sugar site looking for escorts? Pretty much none of us do. We don't treat the girls like that. But it would be delusional to not technically see the transaction of giving a woman cash for sex. Not being technically prostitution. Because it is. Especially when a girl becomes a career sugarbaby. I see them now as part-time prostitutes. I don't TREAT them that way. But I do SEE them that way. There's a difference. I don't even bother messaging career sugarbabies. I only go for first time sugarbabies. And preferably finding them as a non-pro. Over finding them as a sugarbaby.

Where to find a hot girl that's not needing explicitly an arrangement for sex? I've said it myself many times. Dating sites, social media, public pickup game, bars, clubs, etc. And alot will fuck. Just because they want to fuck. Don't even need to take them for drinks, dinner or anything.

When it comes to having a real civie GF or a wife. Of course there are costs involved. But they are not direct cash payments explicitly/directly for sex. You pay for a GF or wife indirectly. With the cost of courting them, dating them, helping maybe with a bill sometimes, gifts, etc. I've said this many times as well.

I've said all these things and more. No need to school me on the game.

LadiesChoice
01-19-25, 18:50
No matter what email I use (Gmail, Yahoo, Proton, etc.), I am never able to sign up for this damn site.

It keeps giving me an Invalid Email error. Do I need to use VPN?

Anyone else having success signing up for this site?Maybe instead try registering at secretbenefits since they are the same site.

Murrican
01-19-25, 21:36
Who goes onto a sugar site looking for escorts? Pretty much none of us do. We don't treat the girls like that. But it would be delusional to not technically see the transaction of giving a woman cash for sex. Not being technically prostitution. Because it is. Especially when a girl becomes a career sugarbaby. I see them now as part-time prostitutes. I don't TREAT them that way. But I do SEE them that way. There's a difference. I don't even bother messaging career sugarbabies. I only go for first time sugarbabies. And preferably finding them as a non-pro. Over finding them as a sugarbaby.

Where to find a hot girl that's not needing explicitly an arrangement for sex? I've said it myself many times. Dating sites, social media, public pickup game, bars, clubs, etc. And alot will fuck. Just because they want to fuck. Don't even need to take them for drinks, dinner or anything.

When it comes to having a real civie GF or a wife. Of course there are costs involved. But they are not direct cash payments explicitly/directly for sex. You pay for a GF or wife indirectly. With the cost of courting them, dating them, helping maybe with a bill sometimes, gifts, etc. I've said this many times as well.

I've said all these things and more. No need to school me on the game.Right. Just because a girl does not extend her hand for payment literally every time she opens her legs does not mean she's not doing it largely for the money. It doesn't mean she gets zero benefit besides money. Obviously many SBs also enjoy their time with their SD. But there's a difference between something being sufficient and something being necessary.

Sometimes you go to a restaurant where you're a regular and they give you a free dessert or comp your meal. It doesn't mean you no longer have to pay anymore.

Ace McNasty
01-20-25, 11:19
NEW ON SEEKING. Introducing the Selfie Liveness Check.Here's the MIT-trained pimp himself explaining this process using his mail order bride as some kind of visual prop LOL.

Seeking verification video (https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fo/fguysp8q2072bxpqh9g7e/ADBOYUNK1k4UBSIzn2QNWDE?rlkey=ox7ay3xqt2z1p0udu05hdl2dm&st=iolis20c&dl=0)

Ace McNasty
01-20-25, 11:20
No matter what email I use (Gmail, Yahoo, Proton, etc.), I am never able to sign up for this damn site.

It keeps giving me an Invalid Email error. Do I need to use VPN?

Anyone else having success signing up for this site?Since FOSTA was passed back in 2018, a lot of sites pushed back against sex work apps. For example, lots of Hx guys posted they were no longer getting emails from the site at their Yahoo mail. Admin even warned members to switch over to a different mail provider. Not sure about GM or Proton. I have never used any of these for my throw away email addy.

I joined all the sugar apps back in 2016 and created multiple redundant accounts using different servers from your list above and I never had any problems or blowbacks. Consider joining SDM they been around since 2007. They may have a bit more relaxed rules. Here are my current 3 SB's from SDM.

FarFarAway
01-20-25, 13:27
Same here. And it has been this way a while. I put in a help request on this topic this week. I don't recall all their practices, perhaps they don't send an acknowledging email, but I didn't get one. That might be another bug.

I wondered if it might be browser related. Currently I use Brave on a Mac, people using different browsers might have different experience. Oh, and then there is the mobile app. I don't want to burden my burner, so I don't even have that installed. I have tried Safari at times, I thought it was even worse for the problem where you click a profile in a list and get that PNA page.I did finally get a CS response, the typical Pablum. Restart the browser, clear the cache. No acknowledgement that their site was buggy as it clearly is.

MrBlueSea
01-20-25, 19:29
Here's the MIT-trained pimp himself explaining this process using his mail order bride as some kind of visual prop LOL.

Seeking verification video (https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fo/fguysp8q2072bxpqh9g7e/ADBOYUNK1k4UBSIzn2QNWDE?rlkey=ox7ay3xqt2z1p0udu05hdl2dm&st=iolis20c&dl=0)Forget Seeking, it's become too much of a hassle to keep their overpriced membership. I have shifted to SugarDaddyMeet.com and SugarLifeNow.com and have been having some success. Will try and do some posts soon.

MrBlueSea
01-20-25, 19:30
I mean you do you. As you will of course. To each his own.

But I stand by what I said. You exact revenge on enough girls and one day one of them is going to escalate in a way you can't undo. A rape allegation. A dox. Something. You have more to lose than they do in most cases. And they know that. I hope it doesn't happen to you. But you're playing with fire.I appreciate all of your input, thank you, but lets hope I don't get burned any time soon.

Chupacabra
01-20-25, 21:57
I see them now as part-time prostitutes.Is that like being almost pregnant? Haha I see them as prostitutes who more closely screen their tricks and have a sliding scale on pricing.


When it comes to having a real civie GF or a wife. Of course there are costs involved. But they are not direct cash payments explicitly/directly for sex. You pay for a GF or wife indirectly. With the cost of courting them, dating them, helping maybe with a bill sometimes, gifts, etc. I've said this many times as well.The biggest "cost" for me of having a GF / wife, by far, is the cost of my time and energy. That's the real cost. Shit tests, aggravation, less sleep, drama, bullshit, nagging, no hobbies, no peace. Fuck, the cash cost is what I gladly pay to be free from all of that. I'll have a pleasant 30 min-2 hr time with them, have great sex and then leave and never look back. It's the cost of FREEDOM baby, and I'm paying it. Everybody thinks pimps are cool and johns are lame, but I think pimps are chumps. They willingly take on all of the bullshit and drama from not one but multiple women. Imagine the bullshit they have to deal with day in and day out with some of these braindead hoes. You couldn't pay me.

Also, more on point of the thread I just canceled a date with a "part time prostitute" on Seeking because she turned out to be. . . Full time. Haha We had it set up for this afternoon by text, I told her I'd text when I got home from work and was settled in, but about an hour later she starts blowing up my phone saying she's ready. Oh OK, I didn't realize we were working on your timetable. Then 30 min later she called and we had a quick convo, I told her to be patient, was very cordial. 30 min later, another call that I ignored (I was busy). I texted her that she seemed a little rushed and was she going to be able to chill and hang out (we'd discussed drinks) or was she in a hurry today? This triggered her ghettoness and I got a response saying I was delusional or something like that, and that she knows I was just trying to "trick her into staying longer" (professional ho with an hourly mindset) and that she gets paid "thousands of dollars" for that and I thought I was getting special treatment "just because I found you on Seeking. " I wished her the best, blocked and moved on. Definitely a pro and all I had to do was lightly scratch the veneer to find out. She was young too! Crazy. I may start looking for younger girls in the midwest to fly in. Women in the big cities are just 90% garbage.

DaGreatOne2345
01-20-25, 23:32
Women in the big cities are just 90% garbage.Coming from a guy on the other coast, AMEN, brother!

TopGun9
01-21-25, 12:58
Forget Seeking, it's become too much of a hassle to keep their overpriced membership. I have shifted to SugarDaddyMeet.com and SugarLifeNow.com and have been having some success. Will try and do some posts soon.Agreed!

Seeking is like PornHub after they banned all the real amateur stuffs.

I too had most recent successes on SDM. I'll be giving SLN a try.

Lexx1
01-21-25, 15:09
Is that like being almost pregnant? Haha I see them as prostitutes who more closely screen their tricks and have a sliding scale on pricing.

Also, more on point of the thread I just canceled a date with a "part time prostitute" on Seeking because she turned out to be. . . Full time. Haha We had it set up for this afternoon by text, I told her I'd text when I got home from work and was settled in, but about an hour later she starts blowing up my phone saying she's ready. Oh OK, I didn't realize we were working on your timetable. Then 30 min later she called and we had a quick convo, I told her to be patient, was very cordial. 30 min later, another call that I ignored (I was busy). I texted her that she seemed a little rushed and was she going to be able to chill and hang out (we'd discussed drinks) or was she in a hurry today? This triggered her ghettoness and I got a response saying I was delusional or something like that, and that she knows I was just trying to "trick her into staying longer" (professional ho with an hourly mindset) and that she gets paid "thousands of dollars" for that and I thought I was getting special treatment "just because I found you on Seeking. " I wished her the best, blocked and moved on. Definitely a pro and all I had to do was lightly scratch the veneer to find out. She was young too! Crazy. I may start looking for younger girls in the midwest to fly in. Women in the big cities are just 90% garbage.Cmon man you should know. I call them part time prostitutes because they usually have a regular job. And the sugaring is a side gig or part time. But when they're career sugarbabies that keep coming back or have been on the site for years. I see them as part-time prostitutes.

And yes there are real full on traditional prostitutes trying to pass themselves off as sugarbabies on sugar sites. One thing I always recommend is to do a face image search using an online tool like Pimeyes. And a reverse phone number search. Pimeyes is better than FacecheckID at finding if a girl has escort ads on the web and if they might have done some porn. Facecheck is good at finding social media and job sites like Linked in. The reverse phone search will bring up any escort ads under that number if they exist. Always research / vet these girls.

The best priced girls I've found as sugarbabies and nonpros have mostly been out of LA. Out in the IE area and OC for cheap hot White girls. I've also had many affordable Asian chics in the OC. I've been lucky to find some good girls in LA as well. But LA girls can be a bit boujie and their expectations. I have a couple girls I currently have in each area. The cheapest girls I've tapped have been in the Apple Valley area. If you're willing to drive up to them.

Chupacabra
01-21-25, 15:40
The cheapest girls I've tapped have been in the Apple Valley area. If you're willing to drive up to them.We're simpatico, vato. We both know sugar babies are prostitutes, whether part-time, beginner, or in denial about it.

Where did you find the Apple Valley girls, on Seeking? I like more blue collar white girls they are definitely more fun and down to earth than the urban SJW nose ring crowd.

Lexx1
01-21-25, 16:06
We're simpatico, vato. We both know sugar babies are prostitutes, whether part-time, beginner, or in denial about it.

Where did you find the Apple Valley girls, on Seeking? I like more blue collar white girls they are definitely more fun and down to earth than the urban SJW nose ring crowd.

lol It's the best when they're in denial of it. That's when I've usually gotten an arrangement at the lowest price.

You have to expand your mile radius search to include those far away areas. Or you could just find a zip code in Apple Valley and do a search based on that zip code. There's not always a girl available there. But over the years I've had some there. Usually cute / hot White girls and cute Latinas. Some have been willing to drive down and at least meet halfway around San Bernandino. Victorville usually has a lot of willing girls too.

Ace McNasty
01-21-25, 16:14
Forget Seeking, it's become too much of a hassle to keep their overpriced membership.Nah. Brandon banned your ass. You been trying to get back in without success. But you can't. So the oh so obvious predictable next move is to throw shade at the app. This is a typical and usual tired old playbook of disgruntled mongers here.

I make fun of Brandon all the time but some of us are still active members. Not banned.


I have shifted to SugarDaddyMeet.com See my post about SDM below. I have receipts. I always have receipts. Probably one of the few rare posters in this site of almost 800 K members. I talk the talk. But I also walk the walk.

Ace McNasty
01-21-25, 16:20
China Girl 27.


Here's a China girl for you guys. She's visiting LA and is currently staying at the 1 Hotel in WEHO. She's doing incall for 1200 ppm.

https://members.seeking.com/member/d59a77ad-6018-4b1a-b854-77372e57554bLOL some Chinese chick pushing 30 still calls herself a "baby" and wants 1200 bucks for what sounds like boring germaphobic all condom FC date. Worse, no tits, no hips, and no curves. If she even responds to you on SA. How much time are you going to waste messaging back and forth? 3-4 weeks? Months?

Banged this 18 yo Chinese girl below for $300 GFE in OC. The Japanese girl is 19 and $300 for GFE and 100-200 to upgrade into raw fucking in LA. All it took was 2-3 messages on Hx plus a few texts on my way to the incall. Real 18-19 girls with much better body than this SB above. Literally within an hour of sending the DM on the app and I am knocking on the hotel door and her panties are on the floor. Message at 5 pm and creampie finish just before 7 pm. Now that's how you get your dick wet!

Lexx1
01-21-25, 17:35
China Girl 27.

LOL some Chinese chick pushing 30 still calls herself a "baby" and wants 1200 bucks for what sounds like boring germaphobic all condom FC date. Worse, no tits, no hips, and no curves. If she even responds to you on SA. How much time are you going to waste messaging back and forth? 3-4 weeks? Months?

Banged this 18 yo Chinese girl below for $300 GFE in OC. The Japanese girl is 19 and $300 for GFE and 100-200 to upgrade into raw fucking in LA. All it took was 2-3 messages on Hx plus a few texts on my way to the incall. Real 18-19 girls with much better body than this SB above. Literally within an hour of sending the DM on the app and I am knocking on the hotel door and her panties are on the floor. Message at 5 pm and creampie finish just before 7 pm. Now that's how you get your dick wet!Thought you always said you don't fuck Asian chics?

Having a better body is subjective. I think the 27 year old baby has the better body. It's a toned sexy fit body. But I'm not dropping 1200 on any girl. Plus Asian chics aren't really known as having curvy bodies in the first place. Some may have a cute small ass which I dig. But usually bee stings for tits. LOL.

Most guys in this thread are aware of HX. But myself and others choose not to participate. Usually because we don't want to deal with high volume ho's getting dicked down many times on the daily. Especially if they offer raw easily. Much higher risk of stds. Bit less of a risk std wise fucking a sugarbaby or nonpro. That are usually much less volume with how many guys they're fucking.

Chuminh
01-21-25, 18:07
China Girl 27.

LOL some Chinese chick pushing 30 still calls herself a "baby" and wants 1200 bucks for what sounds like boring germaphobic all condom FC date. Worse, no tits, no hips, and no curves. If she even responds to you on SA. How much time are you going to waste messaging back and forth? 3-4 weeks? Months?

Banged this 18 yo Chinese girl below for $300 GFE in OC. The Japanese girl is 19 and $300 for GFE and 100-200 to upgrade into raw fucking in LA. All it took was 2-3 messages on Hx plus a few texts on my way to the incall. Real 18-19 girls with much better body than this SB above. Literally within an hour of sending the DM on the app and I am knocking on the hotel door and her panties are on the floor. Message at 5 pm and creampie finish just before 7 pm. Now that's how you get your dick wet!CindyTan. I've boned her. So sad she's not around more.

MrBlueSea
01-21-25, 19:06
Nah. Brandon banned your ass. You been trying to get back in without success. But you can't. So the oh so obvious predictable next move is to throw shade at the app. This is a typical and usual tired old playbook of disgruntled mongers here.

I make fun of Brandon all the time but some of us are still active members. Not banned.

See my post about SDM below. I have receipts. I always have receipts. Probably one of the few rare posters in this site of almost 800 K members. I talk the talk. But I also walk the walk.Don't think my post about seeking equates to throwing shade, it's just a post about what happened.

Yep, banned, but for what? Because I said Hi to too many girls? Suspicious activity? And no explanation from them. And yes I tried to get back on to no avail, and moved on to other sites.

SugarDaddyMeet and SugarLifeNow seem pretty cool for now. Yours from SDM, very nice.

Lexx1
01-21-25, 19:29
Yep, banned, but for what? Because I said Hi to too many girls? Suspicious activity? And no explanation from them. And yes I tried to get back on to no avail, and moved on to other sites.
If you messaged a crap load of girls. Especially if you're sending the same canned message to all of them or similar messages. It's considered spamming by their system. Spamming is considered a suspicious activity.

Dsteezy
01-22-25, 17:36
In my time with this site, I've broken my own rules. Offered more than usual, stayed on a strict amount and even stopped paying my SBs for them to continue coming back regardless. At some point it's comfort in how you treat them. All dates memorable with great conversation and I feel like that's gone a long way with my journey for both seeking and online dating. I've even had some SBs live with me and became more of a roommate than anything. Definitely interesting situations as we'd still mess around and I'd still bring other dates or SBs at that time around.

Social media has been quite the game changer when it comes to dating and I haven't seen or noticed much of a regression in the quality of girls on SA.


I have said this so many times. Amen. It irritates me when guys do things like refer to their SB as their girlfriend. I'm always that dude that flies in and pops their bubble. It's not my style but it's warranted. I always have to remind guys, if you stop paying and she stops coming, she ain't your girlfriend. And sometimes the insanity continues. Like a guy will say I keep giving her money because I want to not because I have to. The level of self delusion sometimes is psychopathic.

I have no problem with what this is. I'm almost 50. I know that 23 year old would rather be banging a 25 year old guy. I'm not stupid. I get it. I accept it. I have no illusions that it's only my money that got this started but now she really likes me for me and me alone. It's embarrassing to even write that. I'm actually a quite good looking guy and do well outside the seeking game. But to think some girl who was in high school a few years ago would do this without money is retarded.

FarFarAway
01-22-25, 18:15
In my time with this site, I've broken my own rules. Offered more than usual, stayed on a strict amount and even stopped paying my SBs for them to continue coming back regardless. At some point it's comfort in how you treat them. All dates memorable with great conversation and I feel like that's gone a long way with my journey for both seeking and online dating. I've even had some SBs live with me and became more of a roommate than anything. Definitely interesting situations as we'd still mess around and I'd still bring other dates or SBs at that time around.

Social media has been quite the game changer when it comes to dating and I haven't seen or noticed much of a regression in the quality of girls on SA.I would say that the mod of this thread HG, observes the same.

BTW, I don't see guys posting on this or any other locations sugar threads who are referring to their SBs as their GFs. I mean making something up and then attacking the 'straw man', it's more the tactic of the media-crazed these days. Be my guest, post away, but it isn't serious.

I have been on a paid membership this month, I have crazy amounts of POTs and FCs w / nice girls, at reasonable sugar. Like around 400. If you treat girls nicely, they respond.

Murrican
01-23-25, 12:18
BTW, I don't see guys posting on this or any other locations sugar threads who are referring to their SBs as their GFs. I mean making something up and then attacking the 'straw man', it's more the tactic of the media-crazed these days.Hi there. That's me. I was the one who said that.

Guys 100% absolutely do refer to sugars as their girlfriends. Maybe not on this exact forum. Though probably here also. I'm not going to perform a search. But I'm on a few of these. Both the Los Angeles version and the international version. And it happens all the time. And I often come in and point out the absurdity of it. And it's not even the only delusion or the worst one you see.

MrBlackRabbit
01-23-25, 16:52
China Girl 27.

LOL some Chinese chick pushing 30 still calls herself a "baby" and wants 1200 bucks for what sounds like boring germaphobic all condom FC date. Worse, no tits, no hips, and no curves. If she even responds to you on SA. How much time are you going to waste messaging back and forth? 3-4 weeks? Months?

Banged this 18 yo Chinese girl below for $300 GFE in OC. The Japanese girl is 19 and $300 for GFE and 100-200 to upgrade into raw fucking in LA. All it took was 2-3 messages on Hx plus a few texts on my way to the incall. Real 18-19 girls with much better body than this SB above. Literally within an hour of sending the DM on the app and I am knocking on the hotel door and her panties are on the floor. Message at 5 pm and creampie finish just before 7 pm. Now that's how you get your dick wet!What's the contact for the Japanese girl?