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OcasianBoy
01-13-23, 15:51
Could use some expert help here. I'm a longtime Seeker. I have great experiences in Europe and South America and I do it regularly. I can't believe the experiences I've had. I no longer go sightseeing when I travel. I just bang younger girls.
Tried to bring this closer to home in LA. I have had zero luck. Nada.
I'm a mid 40's guy, solid looking, sending out to 20-25 year olds.
Because I don't want to waste time, I don't say I'm looking for PPM but I do open by explaining I'm looking for someone to go to dinner with and spend time with after for an arrangement.
Already that has gotten me so few write backs. Like 5 percent. Whereas abroad it's like 25 percent.
Then when those who do write back say hi, I suggest 500 dollars.
And then I'm ghosted.
I asked one girl for feedback. She said she thinks I'm just looking for sex and she's looking for a relationship. Ok fair.
But anyways. Am I so off base here in LA looking for one night recurring meetings for 500? I'm surprised this is going so badly.
Anyone have a better formula?25 percent replies is what I'm getting. Out of that, half I could get their numbers to text. 500 is pretty good and you should be able to get quite a few to agree to it unless you're going after the really hot girls.
25 percent replies is what I'm getting. Out of that, half I could get their numbers to text. 500 is pretty good and you should be able to get quite a few to agree to it unless you're going after the really hot girls.Yeah I'm surprised this isn't working better.
I have only 1 photo and it's blurred face so that might be it.
Yeah I'm surprised this isn't working better.
I have only 1 photo and it's blurred face so that might be it.I don't think that's it. I have one photo with face blurred, and I'm getting very good results. I have more than I can handle at the moment, they're all wondering why I'm so busy all the time.
If you like, PM me your opening messages and I'll give a critique.
Yeah I'm surprised this isn't working better.
I have only 1 photo and it's blurred face so that might be it.I have 2 photos, and 1 of them has me wearing a mask. Both are private so they have no idea what I look like when we start messaging. I'm mid-forties, but typically go for the 18-24 yr olds and have more numbers than I can follow up with. My profile is very to-the-point and leaves no room for confusion. For example, my headline is "The Seeder" and I message them first by telling them they have a sexy body, or complimenting their looks. After viewing my profile, they know exactly what I want and why I'm there. I started trying this direct approach about 4 years ago and have gotten far more interest from the girls with this profile than I had with my previous profile which was less direct and I *think* confused the girls into thinking I wanted to date. Remember: besides the sugar, a lot of those girls on Seeking are there to fuck too!
Also I'm down in OC, but I have just as much success with the LA girls with this approach.
MiamiHeat2020
01-14-23, 23:34
Those of you have been doing this for a while, how much would you say the average meeting costs for a hot mid 20's girl?
I don't think that's it. I have one photo with face blurred, and I'm getting very good results. I have more than I can handle at the moment, they're all wondering why I'm so busy all the time.
If you like, PM me your opening messages and I'll give a critique.Done. And thanks.
Started browsing SA and notice girls can do videos. Has this helped the site filter out the scammers or still quite a lot?
FarFarAway
01-15-23, 14:50
Started browsing SA and notice girls can do videos. Has this helped the site filter out the scammers or still quite a lot?I see little use of that video feature. There are still many scammers, I am amazed by these: there are a huge # of profiles in the city "Roosevelt", there is no such place, and when you look at the profile, you can see they are fake - 1 photo, none or just a 1-sentence profile, etc.
StudBucket
01-15-23, 17:51
This one quoted me $1.5 k ppm. Amazing golden pussy syndrome, LOL. I did not even respond. I am quite shocked that there may be some simps out there (not referring to anyone on this board as most of us are pretty savvy) that me be giving these girls ridiculous amounts or why else would they even think they can get this. Incredible.
https://members.seeking.com/member/93b1c8fe-1ebc-4766-8295-e0e8fc21095b
StudBucket
01-15-23, 19:03
Those of you have been doing this for a while, how much would you say the average meeting costs for a hot mid 20's girl?There is no set answer to this. It depends on how hot the girl is. I find though that if you tell them while messaging "If you are okay with an allowance of xyz then we should continue to plan on meeting up. " If they tell you this is way too low, or ignore it means that they want a lot. In general 400-600 should get you good quality for girls this age. Hope this helps.
FarFarAway
01-15-23, 20:02
There is no set answer to this. It depends on how hot the girl is. I find though that if you tell them while messaging "If you are okay with an allowance of xyz then we should continue to plan on meeting up. " If they tell you this is way too low, or ignore it means that they want a lot. In general 400-600 should get you good quality for girls this age. Hope this helps.Really? The only thing you are to that girl is a wallet? Why be on SA instead of going for blatant escorts on Humaniplex? If you negotiate w / a POT from seeking electronically, you are going to get her 'escort' pricing, as if she is doing what an escort does. Agree to have sex for money w / someone she's never met, who might be a troll or axe murderer. Doing that will just get seeking.com in trouble for having escorts on it, and maybe get it shut down. That won't matter to you, because you'll just use HX or its successor. IT will screw me though, because girls who are not escorts I can have ongoing arrangements with won't be found there.
Spector888
01-16-23, 01:11
https://members.seeking.com/member/638cd1f1-c3bd-449e-81b3-624eabe0c101
Profile gone.
I respectfully disagree.
I only do PPMs on SA. Never arrangements, because of my personal life.
But that doesn't mean I want an escort. I really do want to bang the girl next door who just needs a little financial boost. I don't want to bang the girl who has made it a profession.
I don't think they are the same thing just because money is exchanged for sex.
Really? The only thing you are to that girl is a wallet? Why be on SA instead of going for blatant escorts on Humaniplex? If you negotiate w / a POT from seeking electronically, you are going to get her 'escort' pricing, as if she is doing what an escort does. Agree to have sex for money w / someone she's never met, who might be a troll or axe murderer. Doing that will just get seeking.com in trouble for having escorts on it, and maybe get it shut down. That won't matter to you, because you'll just use HX or its successor. IT will screw me though, because girls who are not escorts I can have ongoing arrangements with won't be found there.
NapataJohn
01-16-23, 11:18
Really? Why be on SA instead of going for blatant escorts on Humaniplex? If I meet a SB for a while doing PPM, after that it is more of a GFE thing and I do help them with setting up their business. In counseling and also financially.
Example I meet a SB a few times in a few weeks so that she can get a newer car etc.
FarFarAway
01-16-23, 13:14
https://members.seeking.com/member/3b85de3e-1880-47f0-9025-4a64c2b1e569
Had a past arrangement w / a dumb attorney at 3 k / mo.
FarFarAway
01-16-23, 13:17
I respectfully disagree.
I only do PPMs on SA. Never arrangements, because of my personal life.
But that doesn't mean I want an escort. I really do want to bang the girl next door who just needs a little financial boost. I don't want to bang the girl who has made it a profession.
I don't think they are the same thing just because money is exchanged for sex.IK they aren't the same thing, but my point is that when you approach a girl that way, you are really limiting yourself to those who are UTR escort types. If you don't publicly M&G a girl initially, I consider that an escort. I don't want to FC a girl who I want to get away from as soon as the deed is done, I am looking for someone whose company I genuinely enjoy, for the few limited hours per week I see her.
FarFarAway
01-16-23, 13:23
I've gotten full pix from her before, amazing. No idea about sugar.
https://members.seeking.com/member/dcff187e-f645-4cc3-8b0d-f95c45ab62fd
StudBucket
01-16-23, 13:52
Really? The only thing you are to that girl is a wallet? Why be on SA instead of going for blatant escorts on Humaniplex? If you negotiate w / a POT from seeking electronically, you are going to get her 'escort' pricing, as if she is doing what an escort does. Agree to have sex for money w / someone she's never met, who might be a troll or axe murderer. Doing that will just get seeking.com in trouble for having escorts on it, and maybe get it shut down. That won't matter to you, because you'll just use HX or its successor. IT will screw me though, because girls who are not escorts I can have ongoing arrangements with won't be found there.I do not know what you are thinking but you do what works for you and continue to believe you are some White Knight rescuing these sugar babies and that they like you for your and are not in it for the money perhaps? Agreeing to have sex for money is all what websites like Seeking, Whats your Price, is all about. You have to be kidding yourself if you believe these girls are in it for free to meet nice older guys like us.
What I meant was that after you get the girls number and build repoire, then I get their number and take the conversation off line via phone and text. Eventually the cost comes up for how much the allowance will be whether it be per date or monthly / weekly. I would never get into a monthly allowance right off the bat though until I know I have a chemistry and I like the girl a lot. Using my method has prevented me from getting quoted a super high price if you merely ask them what they need. Many of the girls on the site do this part time and have regular jobs, and are okay initially with PPM and I am not getting escort pricing. I am getting long dates for these amounts. You are way overthinking this sorry.
FarFarAway
01-16-23, 14:50
I do not know what you are thinking but you do what works for you and continue to believe you are some White Knight rescuing these sugar babies and that they like you for your and are not in it for the money perhaps? Agreeing to have sex for money is all what websites like Seeking, Whats your Price, is all about. You have to be kidding yourself if you believe these girls are in it for free to meet nice older guys like us.
What I meant was that after you get the girls number and build repoire, then I get their number and take the conversation off line via phone and text. Eventually the cost comes up for how much the allowance will be whether it be per date or monthly / weekly. I would never get into a monthly allowance right off the bat though until I know I have a chemistry and I like the girl a lot. Using my method has prevented me from getting quoted a super high price if you merely ask them what they need. Many of the girls on the site do this part time and have regular jobs, and are okay initally with PPM and I am not getting escort pricing. I am getting long dates for these amounts. You are way overthinking this sorry.Mischaracterizes prior testimony.
I never said that. However, I have had long-term arrangements w / girls 30+ years my junior at small money, and they hung around me for multiple reasons, obviously not just the $. IK other people (not in CA) who have basically used SA to find long-term affairs w / girls 20+ their junior. Much is possible on the site.
Of course, I always have the first FC be rather specific in terms of what the activities will be and what the sugar will be. But if you at least talk to a girl about what a monthly allowance would be like, you make her feel better about it being not just sex-for-hire, rather a 'relationship' - mutually beneficial to be sure, but still, not just an escort. There are many girls who really want this for their own conscience, but of course they are also looking to get their own rocks off, whatever that means to them. Often, there is a fantasy in a POT about being w / a much older guy, either because he is experienced and will give them a peak sexual experience, something they've never gotten from boys they have dated, or because they are submissive and want someone who knows how to play that way. Fine, playing into a girl's kinks is a way for me to get quality pussy at a lower price point.
I never never never negotiate $ by text, only face to face. People are very brave typing into a keyboard. Just look at a site like this. Lots of flaming. In person, people don't want to be rejected, and if you have met someone, they are already invested somewhat in the interaction and are not as likely to ask crazy #s. If I can't get a girl to do that, if she demands to tell me what her allowance is by e-messaging, she is likely wanting to be a kept woman at 3 K / mo or greater, I can't hide that much $ from my SO anyway, so I can ghost and cut my losses.
I definitely am not overthinking this. I have had amazing women from seeking, I have posted some of their photos recently on the Richmond thread, I challenge you to show me you've done better with your approach, and I definitely have given them less $ than you could expect to pay for a top-notch escort. My goal in life is to nail as much high-quality pussy as I can, and that means looks, skills, and definitely not available just to anyone who has a big wallet. I am living the dream on SA.
I don't believe I'm a white knight. I don't believe I'm rescuing anyone. I don't believe these girls would prefer older guys if not got the money.
I'm actually not sure how you're inferring I believe any of these things.
All I said is that the distinction between a PPM girl on SA and a bonified professional escort is way more than semantic, and that I prefer the former. Beyond that I honestly don't know how you're extending what I'm saying to some of the things you think I'm saying.
I do not know what you are thinking but you do what works for you and continue to believe you are some White Knight rescuing these sugar babies and that they like you for your and are not in it for the money perhaps? Agreeing to have sex for money is all what websites like Seeking, Whats your Price, is all about. You have to be kidding yourself if you believe these girls are in it for free to meet nice older guys like us.
Spector888
01-16-23, 14:55
Scammer link update on 1/16/23. Appears she deletes and makes new accounts a lot.
https://members.seeking.com/member/638cd1f1-c3bd-449e-81b3-624eabe0c101
https://members.seeking.com/member/638cd1f1-c3bd-449e-81b3-624eabe0c101Thanks for posting this, keep watching out for her. I had my worst scam / threat / rob ever from her A month ago and freaked the fuck out. Couldn't find more to post and glad someone else is warning. Plaster her pic everywhere Far beyond just a scam.
So I tried SecretBenefits the past few weeks to see what the alternatives were to SA and it was 98% trash. Most of the received emails were generic prompts and never replied and the secret pics weren't worth unlocking either. I talked to one on there and it was interesting, to say the least sure. She was escorting but tried to mask it. I dint really care just could have been real about it. Finally got fed up and requested a refund. It was given immediately, something tells me they know the site is set up dishonestly.
FarFarAway
01-16-23, 19:30
I don't believe I'm a white knight. I don't believe I'm rescuing anyone. I don't believe these girls would prefer older guys if not got the money.
I'm actually not sure how you're inferring I believe any of these things.
All I said is that the distinction between a PPM girl on SA and a bonified professional escort is way more than semantic, and that I prefer the former. Beyond that I honestly don't know how you're extending what I'm saying to some of the things you think I'm saying.No no, he wasn't implying that is you, he was implying that is me.
I can say I definitely don't view myself as this 'white knight', and the whole tone of that post to me fits into one mindset you see on here sometime. Guys who are pretty disrespectful of the women they are banging, and the guys who post here don't follow their world-view, and prescriptions. I have a theory about those who cannot distinguish a SB from an escort or even a SW. I wonder if they've ever had a real relationship w / a woman. A GF, a wife, whatever. If their only experience ever has been that they have to pay for sex, I can see how a SB wouldn't look too different from a girl on the stroll. I've been married twice and have had a lot of relationships (I am retirement age), and a lot of pretty good sex. I can say that some of the best sex of my life has come since I've joined SA. The fact is, it is easier to find someone with whom you are very sexually compatible (and don't have to worry about the rest) that it is to find someone who you are going to have a committed relationship with, with all of the components.
I saw a 27 year old for many many months coming out of the pandemic. She relocated for a job. We had a great relationship generally and amazing sex. She visits her parents back in this area now and then. We get together because we simply cannot keep our hands off one another. We still have smoking hot sex just like we were when she was my regular. She decries any and all of the men she is currently considering, either regular or sugar dating, and specifically says I treat her better than anyone ever has. And that doesn't have anything to do with $. Where did I learn this? Two marriages. Like anyone I spend time with who I care about, I enjoy providing treats that IK she values. This was and is a relationship w / emotional, physical, and intellectual components. I would never have gotten to develop all that w / her if I hadn't been providing sugar, of course. She is still very grateful for the funds I provided, which helped her move to her new job. We'll always be significant to one another. I have GFs from my single days between my marriages, when they have gotten divorced, they always seem to contact me (through professional channels like LinkedIn) to 'see what I am up to these days'.
My only attitude / approach that endears me to women is that I treat them nicely and with respect and consideration, and I genuinely receive pleasure from giving to them. If that isn't one of your strengths, you'll have to take a different approach. I have no doubt there are some great 'swordsmen' on seeking who are doing great b / c they are really good looking and they have skills as pick-up artists. I wish I learned about arrangements (and that seeking.com had existed) when I was in my 40's. I have been an active SD since 2016.
StudBucket
01-16-23, 20:33
I don't believe I'm a white knight. I don't believe I'm rescuing anyone. I don't believe these girls would prefer older guys if not got the money.
I'm actually not sure how you're inferring I believe any of these things.
All I said is that the distinction between a PPM girl on SA and a bonified professional escort is way more than semantic, and that I prefer the former. Beyond that I honestly don't know how you're extending what I'm saying to some of the things you think I'm saying.Murrican, settle down. My response, if you would have read, was directed in reply to member Far Far Away's comment to my post. In fact his comment is posted above my reply. I am actually in agreement with you. So, please apologize, LOL. But, in all seriousness, no it was not a comment meant for you. We are on the same page.
MiamiHeat2020
01-16-23, 21:41
There is no set answer to this. It depends on how hot the girl is. I find though that if you tell them while messaging "If you are okay with an allowance of xyz then we should continue to plan on meeting up. " If they tell you this is way too low, or ignore it means that they want a lot. In general 400-600 should get you good quality for girls this age. Hope this helps.Got it, thank you!
Good man.
You're another person I wish I could grab a beer with.
No no, he wasn't implying that is you, he was implying that is me.
I can say I definitely don't view myself as this 'white knight', and the whole tone of that post to me fits into one mindset you see on here sometime. Guys who are pretty disrespectful of the women they are banging, and the guys who post here don't follow their world-view, and prescriptions. I have a theory about those who cannot distinguish a SB from an escort or even a SW. I wonder if they've ever had a real relationship w / a woman. A GF, a wife, whatever. If their only experience ever has been that they have to pay for sex, I can see how a SB wouldn't look too different from a girl on the stroll. I've been married twice and have had a lot of relationships (I am retirement age), and a lot of pretty good sex. I can say that some of the best sex of my life has come since I've joined SA. The fact is, it is easier to find someone with whom you are very sexually compatible (and don't have to worry about the rest) that it is to find someone who you are going to have a committed relationship with, with all of the components.
I saw a 27 year old for many many months coming out of the pandemic. She relocated for a job. We had a great relationship generally and amazing sex. She visits her parents back in this area now and then. We get together because we simply cannot keep our hands off one another. We still have smoking hot sex just like we were when she was my regular. She decries any and all of the men she is currently considering, either regular or sugar dating, and specifically says I treat her better than anyone ever has. And that doesn't have anything to do with $. Where did I learn this? Two marriages. Like anyone I spend time with who I care about, I enjoy providing treats that IK she values. This was and is a relationship w / emotional, physical, and intellectual components. I would never have gotten to develop all that w / her if I hadn't been providing sugar, of course. She is still very grateful for the funds I provided, which helped her move to her new job. We'll always be significant to one another. I have GFs from my single days between my marriages, when they have gotten divorced, they always seem to contact me (through professional channels like LinkedIn) to 'see what I am up to these days'.
My only attitude / approach that endears me to women is that I treat them nicely and with respect and consideration, and I genuinely receive pleasure from giving to them. If that isn't one of your strengths, you'll have to take a different approach. I have no doubt there are some great 'swordsmen' on seeking who are doing great b / c they are really good looking and they have skills as pick-up artists. I wish I learned about arrangements (and that seeking.com had existed) when I was in my 40's. I have been an active SD since 2016.
HollywoodGuy
01-16-23, 23:35
I respectfully disagree.
I only do PPMs on SA. Never arrangements, because of my personal life.
But that doesn't mean I want an escort. I really do want to bang the girl next door who just needs a little financial boost. I don't want to bang the girl who has made it a profession.
I don't think they are the same thing just because money is exchanged for sex.They aren't the same by a long shot. Just very difficult to find. But not impossible. Or find the girl that has just decided to go the pro route and you just happen to be the first in line. It happens.
KingStannis
01-17-23, 13:06
I don't think that's it. I have one photo with face blurred, and I'm getting very good results. I have more than I can handle at the moment, they're all wondering why I'm so busy all the time.
If you like, PM me your opening messages and I'll give a critique.Does the salary you put on your Seeking profile matter? Do a lot of girls weed out less than 500 k or mil? I have it higher than average (200 k), and higher than my actual salary but not too high that SBs don't think I'm excessively lieing. Or does it not matter and a high salary attracts tons of GPS and those wanting excessive gifts? Out of curiosity I've been lurking this LA Seeking thread and others across the country to compare how everyone's local scene is. Seems it really is just mostly misses on this site and few hits. I was worried it was just in my area, Phoenix / Scottsdale, Arizona.
Does the salary you put on your Seeking profile matter? Do a lot of girls weed out less than 500 k or mil? I have it higher than average (200 k), and higher than my actual salary but not too high that SBs don't think I'm excessively lieing. Or does it not matter and a high salary attracts tons of GPS and those wanting excessive gifts? Out of curiosity I've been lurking this LA Seeking thread and others across the country to compare how everyone's local scene is. Seems it really is just mostly misses on this site and few hits. I was worried it was just in my area, Phoenix / Scottsdale, Arizona.I think most of them are more concerned about what you'll give them than what you make.
Lots of hits in LA, and when I'm in your backyard! Plenty of ASU girls happy to give it up.
FarFarAway
01-17-23, 19:18
Does the salary you put on your Seeking profile matter? Do a lot of girls weed out less than 500 k or mil? I have it higher than average (200 k), and higher than my actual salary but not too high that SBs don't think I'm excessively lieing. Or does it not matter and a high salary attracts tons of GPS and those wanting excessive gifts? Out of curiosity I've been lurking this LA Seeking thread and others across the country to compare how everyone's local scene is. Seems it really is just mostly misses on this site and few hits. I was worried it was just in my area, Phoenix / Scottsdale, Arizona.People complain about the misses, publicly. If they have hits, they keep quiet or keep them to themselves. Some here have been known to criticize others for 'bragging'.
I don't think the net worth or salary matters, I have been on the site years, and it has never come up in any messaging in any context. That doesn't mean a girl doesn't look at that. In the old days, girls could list their allowance expectations, based on adjectives (but then there was a key you could locate somewhere else that told you what those were). The lowest adjective, though, I think it was 'practical', it was something like 2000/ mo, so it was pretty divorced from reality. It contributed to GPS for sure, and just made girls disappointed. I'm sure you have read profiles where she complains guys weren't 'real SDs' - I think that is what they mean.
And IK quite a few girls I made contact here who relocated to the PHX area, I wish I had access to them.
Scammer link update on 1/16/23. Appears she deletes and makes new accounts a lot.PrettySocialite.
And a new profile. . . https://members.seeking.com/member/37f1f70e-1cd0-4e2d-b45b-3fda96819987.
KingStannis
01-18-23, 12:45
I don't think the net worth or salary matters, I have been on the site years, and it has never come up in any messaging in any context. That doesn't mean a girl doesn't look at that. In the old days, girls could list their allowance expectations, based on adjectives (but then there was a key you could locate somewhere else that told you what those were).
I think most of them are more concerned about what you'll give them than what you make.
Lots of hits in LA, and when I'm in your backyard! Plenty of ASU girls happy to give it up.Thanks you two for the insight! I was worried maybe I didn't have my salary high enough in my profile. And RanManCan, ASU girls in Phoenix have become harder to come by, more competitive to attract, and more expensive unfortunately.
StudBucket
01-18-23, 12:59
PrettySocialite.
And a new profile. . . https://members.seeking.com/member/37f1f70e-1cd0-4e2d-b45b-3fda96819987.Just make sure you guys keep reporting her and getting her blocked, LOL, good stuff.
Does the salary you put on your Seeking profile matter? Do a lot of girls weed out less than 500 k or mil? I have it higher than average (200 k), and higher than my actual salary but not too high that SBs don't think I'm excessively lieing. Or does it not matter and a high salary attracts tons of GPS and those wanting excessive gifts? Out of curiosity I've been lurking this LA Seeking thread and others across the country to compare how everyone's local scene is. Seems it really is just mostly misses on this site and few hits. I was worried it was just in my area, Phoenix / Scottsdale, Arizona.Honestly I lie in the other direction. Hear me out. My profile says 250 k /1. 5 mm. My actual is 400 k /6 mm-ish. The reason I lie is that you have no idea who's on the other side of the transaction. I take precautions, but if I were ever to be blackmailed, you don't get bonus points for having more resources.
HollywoodGuy
01-18-23, 23:39
Thanks you two for the insight! I was worried maybe I didn't have my salary high enough in my profile. And RanManCan, ASU girls in Phoenix have become harder to come by, more competitive to attract, and more expensive unfortunately.I have my salary and net worth at the lowest level possible. I always did that even when it was much more. No girl cares how much you have. Only how much you are willing to spend.
People complain about the misses, publicly. If they have hits, they keep quiet or keep them to themselves. Some here have been known to criticize others for 'bragging'.
I don't think the net worth or salary matters, I have been on the site years, and it has never come up in any messaging in any context. That doesn't mean a girl doesn't look at that. In the old days, girls could list their allowance expectations, based on adjectives (but then there was a key you could locate somewhere else that told you what those were). The lowest adjective, though, I think it was 'practical', it was something like 2000/ mo, so it was pretty divorced from reality. It contributed to GPS for sure, and just made girls disappointed. I'm sure you have read profiles where she complains guys weren't 'real SDs' - I think that is what they mean.
And IK quite a few girls I made contact here who relocated to the PHX area, I wish I had access to them.They had under 1 k / mo as the lowest at practical, then did a range that doubled it each level I think because high maintenance was like 10 k or some crazy thing I think. I came from a cheaper area and you'd get 4 meets in for around the lowest monthly out there and everything was fine. It DID lead to some odd misunderstandings though when someone put that, then expected 1 k for the 1 day a month they could meet for free! And that's when I learned to start talking about it up front instead of the end of a platonic meeting because that was a wasted date.
The bigger deal was you could be flat out honest about what you wanted and were looking for via SA messages. Now I tell any girl that even comes close to mentioning ppm or $ that we need to talk via text and I won't respond on SA or get banned (as a few years worth of reading messages shows how clueless some guys here were just blatantly saying it after the rules changes and bans came!
FarFarAway
01-19-23, 10:50
They had under 1 k / mo as the lowest at practical, then did a range that doubled it each level I think because high maintenance was like 10 k or some crazy thing I think. I came from a cheaper area and you'd get 4 meets in for around the lowest monthly out there and everything was fine. It DID lead to some odd misunderstandings though when someone put that, then expected 1 k for the 1 day a month they could meet for free! And that's when I learned to start talking about it up front instead of the end of a platonic meeting because that was a wasted date.
The bigger deal was you could be flat out honest about what you wanted and were looking for via SA messages. Now I tell any girl that even comes close to mentioning ppm or $ that we need to talk via text and I won't respond on SA or get banned (as a few years worth of reading messages shows how clueless some guys here were just blatantly saying it after the rules changes and bans came!Just to be clear, that change wasn't SA's fault, it was FOSTA-SESTA, which came out of the backpage debacle. Now that it is the law, all sites are vulnerable to be taken down if they allow people to do what BP did, and so SA is going to be on the prowl for anything even remotely like pay-for-play to cover their ass.
I see the same thing here but as a counter point, I have only ever discussed money before exchanging contact info.
I'm just never explicit. I say things like €\$ to "join me back at my hotel till morning. ".
Never once had an issue.
The bigger deal was you could be flat out honest about what you wanted and were looking for via SA messages. Now I tell any girl that even comes close to mentioning ppm or $ that we need to talk via text and I won't respond on SA or get banned (as a few years worth of reading messages shows how clueless some guys here were just blatantly saying it after the rules changes and bans came!
Heavens_on_earth.
https://members.seeking.com/member/880cfc93-66c4-4406-9335-b91218d53bc1
Very hot, good comms, decent personality, no BJ, but I got BBFS (YMMV), "not very sexual" by her own words. 1 k, which would be worth it based on looks, but not based on performance. You can probably get lower.
She wanted to hangout again, but I pointed out the limitations and offered 6, she didn't bite.
Lives in palm springs, but drives to LA / OC a few times a week.
Omfgitzjin
01-19-23, 13:33
Heavens_on_earth.
https://members.seeking.com/member/880cfc93-66c4-4406-9335-b91218d53bc1
Very hot, good comms, decent personality, no BJ, but I got BBFS (YMMV), "not very sexual" by her own words. 1 k, which would be worth it based on looks, but not based on performance. You can probably get lower.
She wanted to hangout again, but I pointed out the limitations and offered 6, she didn't bite.
Lives in palm springs, but drives to LA / OC a few times a week.Did she sleep over? Did you hit it multiples times?
Did she sleep over? Did you hit it multiples times?No and No. Takes me a few hours for multiples, and I don't invite first-timers to stay the night.
Aliceinsugar asks for $1 k, accepted offer of $800 but video call first.
On video call, she was pleasant, located in Manhattan Beach, has a car, had several arrangements, and pretty but not as hot as her well-selected pics.
Then she brought up condoms are required even in long term, she wouldn't budge on this. Not for me.
https://members.seeking.com/member/5819bfa6-a404-44ec-89f6-df72ce552b4b
Aliceinsugar asks for $1 k, accepted offer of $800 but video call first.
On video call, she was pleasant, located in Manhattan Beach, has a car, had several arrangements, and pretty but not as hot as her well-selected pics.
Then she brought up condoms are required even in long term, she wouldn't budge on this. Not for me.
https://members.seeking.com/member/5819bfa6-a404-44ec-89f6-df72ce552b4bLOL Funny when she first started out a couple years ago she was a new to town easy $200 bbfscip. 2 years in LA doing * and now she's up her own ass.
HollywoodGuy
01-22-23, 21:49
I turned my seeking account to paused yesterday. Considering my finances are low and that I have 3 regulars (all out of towners though) and one local regular and a few on deck. It's time to take a break.
FarFarAway
01-23-23, 15:03
https://members.seeking.com/member/db97ee50-569f-47fe-93b0-f30b43c3dff2
Lots of texting and messaging on the site, not really able to get her to take a phone call or meet up.
FarFarAway
01-25-23, 19:32
I had an arrangement with this one for several months when I first joined SA. This was a pic from when she was a Playboy model in her 20's. When I met her she was 40, listed 30 on her SA profile, and I didn't care. She was smoking hot, and those boobs, they are 100% natural. Amazing. No longer in the SB game, for years. I text her now and then.
HollywoodGuy
01-25-23, 20:05
https://members.seeking.com/member/db97ee50-569f-47fe-93b0-f30b43c3dff2
Lots of texting and messaging on the site, not really able to get her to take a phone call or meet up.Try getting them to take the bdsmtest.org and see if you are a match.
Any of you ballers smashing this hottie in OC? I'm blocked by her but her profile says "never disappoints" 26 yo but she's really 19 yo. She's a freak and command big bucks. Do share if you're smashing it. LOL.
I've been on here for awhile but can't log on to my original account as I forgot the pass and couldn't reset it.
SteveTandberg
01-26-23, 02:42
I had an arrangement with this one for several months when I first joined SA. This was a pic from when she was a Playboy model in her 20's. When I met her she was 40, listed 30 on her SA profile, and I didn't care. She was smoking hot, and those boobs, they are 100% natural. Amazing. No longer in the SB game, for years. I text her now and then.In the event that this was your SB, you did hit the lottery. Simple Tineye on this image gives name of this playmate. Funny that you call them natural. Just a quick perusal on the other photos in the playmate photo set says 100% man made. Curious why you would claim natural.
https://pmatehunter.com/kimber-cox-lavender-lust/
FarFarAway
01-26-23, 15:24
In the event that this was your SB, you did hit the lottery. Simple Tineye on this image gives name of this playmate. Funny that you call them natural. Just a quick perusal on the other photos in the playmate photo set says 100% man made. Curious why you would claim natural.
https://pmatehunter.com/kimber-cox-lavender-lust/I did know her name, and found that photo myself. She alluded to a modeling past but didn't brag about / disclose the venue. She got more tattoos later, but they matched up. I did get a pic from her later, here's a snippet that should be anonymous. I can say this girl's 100% natural, I inspected them closely on many occasions, and quite amazing. Especially for 40.
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Any of you ballers smashing this hottie in OC? I'm blocked by her but her profile says "never disappoints" 26 yo but she's really 19 yo. She's a freak and command big bucks. Do share if you're smashing it. LOL.
I've been on here for awhile but can't log on to my original account as I forgot the pass and couldn't reset it.Wasn't able to find her profile. Any other details you can provide?
Would you guys mind posting photos when posting links so this of us who don't have a subscription see what we're missing and potentially sign up? I post pictures when referencing a provider in the threads I participate in. TIA.
FarFarAway
01-27-23, 11:33
Would you guys mind posting photos when posting links so this of us who don't have a subscription see what we're missing and potentially sign up? I post pictures when referencing a provider in the threads I participate in. TIA.There's some risk to doing this w / girls we are currently seeing. HG has mentioned why he doesn't do it anymore. If you haven't seen someone in years, then it is OK, but that isn't what you're asking. I think everyone here has some hot pics of an ex though.
HollywoodGuy
01-27-23, 15:40
Would you guys mind posting photos when posting links so this of us who don't have a subscription see what we're missing and potentially sign up? I post pictures when referencing a provider in the threads I participate in. TIA.I think for some of us paid subscribers (we spend just over a $ a month for that privilege), we feel like we put in the work & the money. You get all the advice and stories and you already know seeking has a lot of hot girls. So why should we give freebie pics to non-subscribers? I am always amazed that a guy that spends whatever amount per month on pussy can't pop a $ to be a member and see for themselves.
I used to be a prolific pic poster. Not anymore.
FarFarAway
01-27-23, 18:45
I posted a while back about an accomplished 40 ish businesswoman I met from SA. FCed w / her again yesterday, the quality is still there. She is as into it as I am, gets a kick out of picking out a sexy lingerie package to start out in. Showed new facets yesterday, rolling waves of climaxes from DATY, decided to straddle and tease me cowgirl, like she was going to bareback (but neither of us do that), asking what I'd like, including COF and COB. Good communicator, expressed appreciation for our 'friendship', mentioned everyone should have a 'playmate' like we do. I am just going w / the flow, I don't have an active SA subscription (of course I like to browse) so I am not looking for anyone else. She is starting to share a little more personal stuff, congratulated me sincerely for a success. It's a long game.
Wasn't able to find her profile. Any other details you can provide?Profile say 26, Latina in Costa Mesa. If you got the money, she's worth every penny. Trust me.
While l'm disappointed I understand your pov.
Nevertheless I will continue to share photos.
I wasn't looking for freebies, only to gauge the type / quality before spending time and effort to connect with a SB. A hottie to you might not be a hottie to me.
But to each his own.
No biggie.
I think for some of us paid subscribers (we spend just over a $ a month for that privilege), we feel like we put in the work & the money. You get all the advice and stories and you already know seeking has a lot of hot girls. So why should we give freebie pics to non-subscribers? I am always amazed that a guy that spends whatever amount per month on pussy can't pop a $ to be a member and see for themselves.
I used to be a prolific pic poster. Not anymore.
NapataJohn
01-28-23, 05:05
No girl cares how much you have. Only how much you are willing to spend.Correct, some of the girls ask what you paid in your previous arrangements while some straight up say I usually do 400 to 600 depending on how many times we meet.
And how long we hang out.
Usually I do not negotiate and say I will get back to you if it is too high and if they are interested enough they get back with a lower rate which is reasonable, else it is okay.
Just need to hang around and a new girl shows up on SA.
HollywoodGuy
01-29-23, 01:02
While l'm disappointed I understand your pov.
Nevertheless I will continue to share photos.
I wasn't looking for freebies, only to gauge the type / quality before spending time and effort to connect with a SB. A hottie to you might not be a hottie to me.
But to each his own.
No biggie.If you saw a pic and used that as a reason to join seeking, that would not necessarily be a good idea. The reason being that many of the girls on there are quite flakey and even though one guy had a good experience, you may join and then never even meet that girl due to a variety of reasons.
Seeking is a huge #'s game. It sometimes takes many inquiries to land a girl (any girl). I mean some are easy to reach one day and then impossible the next. Depending on your reasons and the type of girl you are looking for, a month membership may line you up with a dozen girls, or it might take a few months to really cherry pick a long term prospect.
I used to take the shotgun approach and fuck 10 different girls a month knowing that about 1 out of like 30+ girls might be a keeper. Now I use a targeted approach to really focus in on what I want. That can easily take weeks or months.
The most recent girl I have found who physically is at least a 9. I actually met on Tiktok. While it is not a sugar date per se, there will still be some expenses like airfare, dinners and gifts. Estimated cost for the weekend maybe 6 bills or more (only because she will be staying at my place). Getting 3 days out of it. Just made the plane res today. Will report back after its all said and done. Hoping for a once a month 3 day weekend with her going forward.
In 15 years on seeking I have fucked maybe 300 girls. Five or six turned into actual GF's (lived with 3 of them). Had a few more that were LT booty calls (one to two years). And I had three more that lived with me for at least a year that were not GF's and had their own room. And more than a few overlapped. But my ultimate goal is always to try and find a GF type or a booty call that just keeps getting better over time. Because the best sex overall I have ever had was never a one night stand.
FarFarAway
01-29-23, 12:51
Correct, some of the girls ask what you paid in your previous arrangements while some straight up say I usually do 400 to 600 depending on how many times we meet.
And how long we hang out.
Usually I do not negotiate and say I will get back to you if it is too high and if they are interested enough they get back with a lower rate which is reasonable, else it is okay.
Just need to hang around and a new girl shows up on SA.You seem to have more experience w / this than you post. I always defer allowance discussions as long as possible and make the girl go first. They will always have a lower ask. No one wants to be rejected to their face. I agree, negotiating isn't easy, you have to be close to the same page. At a recent M&G, the girl told me she was getting 3 K / mo from a stupid lawyer in LA. Even though their arrangement failed because his wife caught on, and I am a very different proposition in terms of knowledge and safety (=reliable as a SD), I couldn't imagine her ever being satisfied w / what I could provide financially. So I just excused myself from her pursuit.
I think it can be a good strategy to talk about a monthly amount (which of course is always larger) and put that in the context of # of meets (I usually say 3 x / mo, because I can only get away from home / work about weekly, then she will be out of commission one week w / her monthly). Excluding whether someone will do an overnight, I think that the amount of time a girl will spend in the FC is an inappropriate topic for negotiation. Sugar dating is supposed to be GFE, time and menu are for escorts. I expect an open menu from a SB (other than anal, which I am not interested in anyway). I usually get a day use hotel room (the girl actually books it and I reimburse her), I expect to get there around 9 am and stay until noon.
FarFarAway
01-29-23, 12:55
Correct, some of the girls ask what you paid in your previous arrangements while some straight up say I usually do 400 to 600 depending on how many times we meet.
And how long we hang out.
Usually I do not negotiate and say I will get back to you if it is too high and if they are interested enough they get back with a lower rate which is reasonable, else it is okay.
Just need to hang around and a new girl shows up on SA.The question about what have you done in previous arrangements is a common way to broach the issue. I don't think it is relevant and say that. What did you pay for your last car? Do you expect to pay the same for the one you are trying to buy today? They aren't the same and the market isn't the same.
If they really persist in this I can tell a girl about my last truly long-term arrangement, where I was giving her 1 K / mo for 3 meets (but we would have coffee the week she was on her period, because we genuinely like each other). That # isn't going to make many girls swoon. It is honest though. And she was good w / that from our first M&G. She was definitely into me, I'll be forever grateful for that. And I am 40 years her senior.
NewKinkshire
01-29-23, 20:05
Hi guys,
Fellow monger here but I have an opportunity for you.
A good friend of mine is looking for a new sugar daddy in Los Angeles. She is super sexy and will share pics and verify in DM. She is 28 yo, 5'5", 115 lbs, tight body, very pretty face. Years of successful karaoke girl experience.
I am doing this cause she trusts me explicitly and would like me to vet all candidates. I will NOT be involved after vetting.
She is looking for a monthly arrangement with a set number of dates. Ranging from quick meetups to dates to overnights.
Not going to renew subscription, don't really see any new talent wanting sugar to pay off those holiday debts but whatever, I'll get back on in the near future.
I turned my seeking account to paused yesterday. Considering my finances are low and that I have 3 regulars (all out of towners though) and one local regular and a few on deck. It's time to take a break.
Wondering if anyone met Ell / Rossys.
SB. Profile name: Rossys - https://www.secretbenefits.com/next/profile/6f0821b1fa1cd8fd.
SA. Profile name: Ell - https://members.seeking.com/member/eac2abde-28ad-4b4d-999d-5ad625503883 (says deactivated from my account).
Feel free to DM or post.
HollywoodGuy
02-01-23, 15:51
I remember seeing posts that if a girl replied saying "hun" or a few other pet names that it was somehow indicative of their pro status. IDK about that, but if they start out calling you "dear" they are definitely an outside the USA scammer. How they came to believe that they should use that word I am not sure but I laugh anytime I see it. And thanks for the heads up young lady or man or whatever.
SteveTandberg
02-01-23, 17:11
Anyone come across this SB, Arlene?
https://members.seeking.com/member/e26bb49a-ff0b-46be-bc92-e45c9b340a64
Interacts and then ghosts.
SteveTandberg
02-01-23, 18:46
ArsNova.
Violinist410.
Seems like the same girl but can't really tell. Maybe there's a more recent profile? Seemed interesting.
I remember seeing posts that if a girl replied saying "hun" or a few other pet names that it was somehow indicative of their pro status. IDK about that, but if they start out calling you "dear" they are definitely an outside the USA scammer. How they came to believe that they should use that word I am not sure but I laugh anytime I see it. And thanks for the heads up young lady or man or whatever.Reached out to super hot redhead a few months back. Gorgeous. Wrote back which was surprising. This is a girl that probably gets 100's of messages a day.
But it was clear her English was being put through a translator. You can just tell. It's off.
So I said I want her to prove she's real and take a picture of herself holding up 4 fingers. She sends just the hands. I say no, with your face. I want to see that it's the same person in your profile.
She screenshots something or other but I can see that there's Russian in the photo. So I ask where are you exactly. She says Poland.
I almost blew a gasket. Like. F**cking lead with that!
I told her I'm looking for something more local and she says she's happy to fly to meet. I just ghosted her.
I was pissed.
HollywoodGuy
02-02-23, 03:03
Reached out to super hot redhead a few months back. Gorgeous. Wrote back which was surprising. This is a girl that probably gets 100's of messages a day.
But it was clear her English was being put through a translator. You can just tell. It's off.
So I said I want her to prove she's real and take a picture of herself holding up 4 fingers. She sends just the hands. I say no, with your face. I want to see that it's the same person in your profile.
She screenshots something or other but I can see that there's Russian in the photo. So I ask where are you exactly. She says Poland.
I almost blew a gasket. Like. F**cking lead with that!
I told her I'm looking for something more local and she says she's happy to fly to meet. I just ghosted her.
I was pissed.I never get mad and I never jump through the hoops. I just move on to the next one. But taking a break from seeking for a bit. Got a few girls to choose from and my workload is going to sky rocket for a few months. But as soon as I paused I got many multiple popups to get 20% off if I unpaused my profile.
FarFarAway
02-02-23, 16:00
I recently started using the Brave browser. I think it is fairly safe, and I find it a little faster, both on this site and on SA. Anyone have any experience or comment?
HollywoodGuy
02-02-23, 23:26
I recently started using the Brave browser. I think it is fairly safe, and I find it a little faster, both on this site and on SA. Anyone have any experience or comment?When I saw that post a few days ago I tried it and it is def faster. Like about 30% faster for sure.
NapataJohn
02-03-23, 06:55
I recently started using the Brave browser. I think it is fairly safe, and I find it a little faster, both on this site and on SA. Anyone have any experience or comment?Even this seems good.
https://www.torproject.org/download/
Had met this woman several years ago on cuddle site and had several sessions with her that included nude HJ, then suddenly she got off the cuddle site but I guess she turned to porn since I found her in pornhub LOL.
https://www.pornhub.com/model/vibewithmommy
FarFarAway
02-03-23, 12:10
Even this seems good.
https://www.torproject.org/download/Yes, TOR is well known, it is for safety, but you are going to be slave to the speed of the 4 different nodes your connection goes through before it emerges onto the web. Those are volunteers, it literally could be someone's laptop. So, today it could be lightning fast, tomorrow snail-like. And some sites seem to be able to tell you are using TOR and don't work. SA is one in my experience.
While texting she mentioned she was in an open relationship and asked if I had an issue with it. I said no problem as long as he doesn't get in the way.
She's never done this before, 20 slim gorgeous, and humble, even though probably top 1% on SA. . . Exactly my type.
Showed up and M&G looking like cute / sexy as hell, I was pretty damn excited.
Take her back to my place, warm her up, creampie her for a few hours. . . It was fantastic! One of the best first dates I've had in my time on SA!
Oh, and very reasonable allowance.
We made a date for next week.
On her way home she asks if we can cover up on future dates. Um, no.
She has to talk to her bf about it. . . Haha, I guess I'll just await the verdict.
FarFarAway
02-03-23, 15:25
I only do safe sex, so if she is looking for someone new, send her my way.
While texting she mentioned she was in an open relationship and asked if I had an issue with it. I said no problem as long as he doesn't get in the way.
She's never done this before, 20 slim gorgeous, and humble, even though probably top 1% on SA. . . Exactly my type.
Showed up and M&G looking like cute / sexy as hell, I was pretty damn excited.
Take her back to my place, warm her up, creampie her for a few hours. . . It was fantastic! One of the best first dates I've had in my time on SA!
Oh, and very reasonable allowance.
We made a date for next week.
I only do safe sex, so if she is looking for someone new, send her my way.She said she was going to give me an answer already, but no word yet. I'm guessing a little consternation in the relationship, but who knows.
Sent her a little message letting her know I'm thinking of her and hope we get to do all the things we discussed. . . I'm such an asshole!
If she says no, I'm happy to pass her on, but aren't you in the Guinness Book of World Records for being the oldest active SD in the world?
Sorry, couldn't resist a little taunt.
While texting she mentioned she was in an open relationship and asked if I had an issue with it. I said no problem as long as he doesn't get in the way.
She's never done this before, 20 slim gorgeous, and humble, even though probably top 1% on SA. . . Exactly my type.
Showed up and M&G looking like cute / sexy as hell, I was pretty damn excited.
Take her back to my place, warm her up, creampie her for a few hours. . . It was fantastic! One of the best first dates I've had in my time on SA!
Oh, and very reasonable allowance.
We made a date for next week.
On her way home she asks if we can cover up on future dates. Um, no.
She has to talk to her bf about it. . . Haha, I guess I'll just await the verdict.I had a very similar experience last June in the OC area. Met a girl off Seeking who had never tried it before and had just turned 18 exactly a week before we met. She had a boyfriend who was in the Navy aboard the S. S. Nimitz. She said they had talked about her getting to fuck other guys while she was away, and that he was ok with it. I guess she wasn't the type to wait while he was out to sea. Within 3 days of her making that profile, she was under me with legs open and taking pics of herself blowing me, and then sent those pics to her boyfriend. I creampied her for hours afterwards. A week later I text her to meet, and she tells me she spoke to her boyfriend and now wants to use condoms. I agreed so she'd come back over, but that was the last time I saw her. I think reality for the boyfriend set in and seeing his girlfriend blow me, and knowing I came in her made him change his mind. Too bad as she was a good fuck. I love Seeking!
FarFarAway
02-04-23, 01:28
She said she was going to give me an answer already, but no word yet. I'm guessing a little consternation in the relationship, but who knows.
Sent her a little message letting her know I'm thinking of her and hope we get to do all the things we discussed. . . I'm such an asshole!
If she says no, I'm happy to pass her on, but aren't you in the Guinness Book of World Records for being the oldest active SD in the world?
Sorry, couldn't resist a little taunt.Fair enough. I'd bet there are some older than me. If I had learned about SA and arrangements earlier, I would have been into it. And IK that girl is 20, I've definitely seen girls that young and younger.
BTW, I believe that HG is older than me. He also strongly prefers quite young ones.
Of course, IK that all girls on SA aren't going to be interested in someone in their 60's. I don't mind getting turned down, and I don't even waste my time w / profiles that list a top age of interest (other than the 60+ default). Some girls truly don't care, and my last long term SB, I was 40 years older than she.
Fair enough. I'd bet there are some older than me. If I had learned about SA and arrangements earlier, I would have been into it. And IK that girl is 20, I've definitely seen girls that young and younger.
BTW, I believe that HG is older than me. He also strongly prefers quite young ones.
Of course, IK that all girls on SA aren't going to be interested in someone in their 60's. I don't mind getting turned down, and I don't even waste my time w / profiles that list a top age of interest (other than the 60+ default). Some girls truly don't care, and my last long term SB, I was 40 years older than she.Don't take it too personally, I was just ribbing you. . . I agree that most don't care. Besides, besides people generally have more wealth as they age.
FarFarAway
02-04-23, 14:35
Don't take it too personally, I was just ribbing you. . . I agree that most don't care. Besides, besides people generally have more wealth as they age.Absolutely no offense taken. The problem w / electronic communication. You can't see a smirk.
It might be good that I have a SO, that limits my access to my $. Without that, I'd be tempted to go overboard.
HollywoodGuy
02-04-23, 20:27
Paused my membership and instantly got a 20% off popup. Now its been a few days and they upped it to 33% off.
My profile is intentionally hidden from search and dashboard. I only want girls to see me if I message them.
I started getting bunch of views / favorites out of nowhere. I asked one of the girls how she found me, she responded from the post-login home page.
I know they show Featured / Popular / Online Now on that page, but I didn't expect to show up given the above setting.
FYI. You're not as hidden as you think.
FarFarAway
02-05-23, 12:59
My profile is intentionally hidden from search and dashboard. I only want girls to see me if I message them.
I started getting bunch of views / favorites out of nowhere. I asked one of the girls how she found me, she responded from the post-login home page.
I know they show Featured / Popular / Online Now on that page, but I didn't expect to show up given the above setting.
FYI. You're not as hidden as you think.Wow, this is bad. I also keep my profile hidden from post.
They started this new main page, if you click the 'seeking' icon. It used to be featured profiles, new ones, popular ones, and your most recent search. These days, they just throw anything up there. All over the world, etc. This is bad in my view. I used to use that page to diversify myself, to perhaps stumble upon someone who would not show up in the searches I usually run. Now it is useless.
It is especially bad if it is exposing those of us who don't want to be exposed (especially to those international profiles that are almost surely fake). I am a 'member' of SA's user committee or whatever they call it. They sent me an email asking me to give feedback on the new main page. I didn't reply in time for the interview they really wanted to do. I did email back to them that I didn't like it. I hope they take my comments seriously and change it from what is current.
Any info on this one? She asked me for $1500 to take her home. I never even entertained that. She seems relentless and hits me up from time to time and is adamant on making something happen even though I've clearly shown zero interest in her request. She's definitely a hottie but I don't sense anything beyond the surface level bs I can get with a hottie on HX for far less.
FarFarAway
02-05-23, 15:47
Any info on this one? She asked me for $1500 to take her home. I never even entertained that. She seems relentless and hits me up from time to time and is adamant on making something happen even though I've clearly shown zero interest in her request. She's definitely a hottie but I don't sense anything beyond the surface level bs I can get with a hottie on HX for far less.I don't really search in LA so I hadn't run into her. I'd suggest asking her to do just a public M&G. If she will do that, I'd wager you can get her down out of the ether, into something reasonable, but not cheap. Like 600. If you have some game and are relatively young, nice, and GL.
I don't really search in LA so I hadn't run into her. I'd suggest asking her to do just a public M&G. If she will do that, I'd wager you can get her down out of the ether, into something reasonable, but not cheap. Like 600. If you have some game and are relatively young, nice, and GL.LOL the first time we spoke she wanted $500 for me to take her to dinner now she won't stop texting me.
FarFarAway
02-05-23, 17:29
Though I live near the ocean, I work in Riverside county. I have always sought SBs out there, figuring they would be less expensive, and it would be safer for me to meet up b / c I am out of my home territory. However, I have never had much success. I have met a few over the years, in even fewer cases I've FCed them, but mostly it is frustrating. I am aware HG sometimes gets girls from inland counties to even come to him in LA. What do you think accounts for this? I am old IK, but surely there isn't a difference in this regard. Perhaps I don't appeal for some reason to Latinas, a large proportion of the girls inland. The girls I have gotten at the coast have been higher quality / more attractive too, I would say.
I don't really search in LA so I hadn't run into her. I'd suggest asking her to do just a public M&G. If she will do that, I'd wager you can get her down out of the ether, into something reasonable, but not cheap. Like 600. If you have some game and are relatively young, nice, and GL.LOL she wanted 500 just to take her to dinner. I laughed it all off and she continues to text. Me thinks I can get this one for way lower. I'm just wondering if anyone else may have seen her or had experience with her.
CuriousVaMan
02-06-23, 02:29
I'm older as well (62) and there's nothing better than having a youngin'!
My youngest SB is 23 which puts me at an SB Age Multiplier of 2.70 (62/23). I have found more than a few SBs couldn't care less about age. One of my SBs (age 27) flat-out told me she doesn't show any interest in guys younger than 40.
What a country. An old guy like me banging a hottie 40 years my junior!
Fair enough. I'd bet there are some older than me. If I had learned about SA and arrangements earlier, I would have been into it. And IK that girl is 20, I've definitely seen girls that young and younger.
BTW, I believe that HG is older than me. He also strongly prefers quite young ones.
Of course, IK that all girls on SA aren't going to be interested in someone in their 60's. I don't mind getting turned down, and I don't even waste my time w / profiles that list a top age of interest (other than the 60+ default). Some girls truly don't care, and my last long term SB, I was 40 years older than she.
FarFarAway
02-06-23, 10:33
I'm older as well (62) and there's nothing better than having a youngin'!
My youngest SB is 23 which puts me at an SB Age Multiplier of 2.70 (62/23). I have found more than a few SBs couldn't care less about age. One of my SBs (age 27) flat-out told me she doesn't show any interest in guys younger than 40.
What a country. An old guy like me banging a hottie 40 years my junior!Agree with you there, Captain. And I am older than you. I have banged several I was more than 3 x their age. Those go into the memory banks for when I am *really* old and can't get it up anymore. LOL. Obviously, don't try this at home if you aren't pretty far up in age. A couple were smoking hot too. Some girls truly just don't care at all about age, this was a good lesson to learn.
Still don't know why I am not scoring w / IE girls.
FarFarAway
02-06-23, 14:14
Still don't know why I am not scoring w / IE girls.Even though I have a great profile picture.
LOL.
FarFarAway
02-06-23, 18:21
Even though I have a great profile picture.
LOL.The most interesting man in the world. IDK why it didn't show.
Thinking I could still be doing this in 20 years makes me smile.
I only wish I found it sooner.
Agree with you there, Captain. And I am older than you. I have banged several I was more than 3 x their age. Those go into the memory banks for when I am *really* old and can't get it up anymore. LOL. Obviously, don't try this at home if you aren't pretty far up in age. A couple were smoking hot too. Some girls truly just don't care at all about age, this was a good lesson to learn.
Still don't know why I am not scoring w / IE girls.
The most interesting man in the world. IDK why it didn't show.I'm not into being dominated, but if I was, I'd drink this: https://members.seeking.com/member/d3715d4a-5ec7-4a14-a57a-12b52f092556.
FarFarAway
02-10-23, 00:51
Dangerous. Rayybabyyy. . . Says her name is Raylene.
Had this one at my house. . . The whole thing was super suspect. I'm quite sure she had her pimp with her at our M&G but I didn't see.
.I just checked her profile, it is still up. Dude, having a SB at your place, definitely risky for the first few times you see someone. Perhaps if you've known a girl a while it might be OK, but this is breaching many operational security rules.
FirstClass1
02-10-23, 17:11
Mole on the right side of her nose where it meets her face
Minor scar above right eye
Medium chip in front top right front tooth.Her physiognomy as described is that of someone who is no stranger to fights, beatings and drama. These type of creatures are drawn to bullshit and love to bring it to you. I know some of you guys don't care about looks so long as she puts out, but it is important to notice such details.
Also look at their nails: are they dirty, chipped, cracked, or poorly done press-ons or damaged acrylics? Are her clothes shabby or shoes dirty? Any tattoos with gang insignia or guy's names, or pictures of a dude on her phone or home screen? Is her face puffy or her speech drawn out? If a girl showed up to a M&G as described, I would call off the date.
A hustler might be well-dressed and will try to charm and con you out of your money. But a low-class chick and her pimp will resort to brute force.
HollywoodGuy
02-10-23, 23:40
Dangerous. Rayybabyyy. . . Says her name is Raylene.
Had this one at my house. . . The whole thing was super suspect. I'm quite sure she had her pimp with her at our M&G but I didn't see.
When I sent her home in uber, it got cancelled and went back the M&G.
Something was totally off and has me quite concerned.
Phone Number:1769 (I know guidelines say not to post, but this is a warning).
https://members.seeking.com/member/d5fb1c68-5bb3-48b3-a3a1-395b3f781e81
Mole on the right side of her nose where it meets her face
Minor scar above right eye
Medium chip in front top right front tooth.Sorry. Had to delete. Last 4 digits of her phone # will suffice. repost pics or anything else... but not a complete phone # or address
Sorry. Had to delete. Last 4 digits of her phone # will suffice. repost pics or anything else... but not a complete phone # or addressThat was a rough story. Sorry to hear that. She looks cute in her profile and I wouldn't have guessed pimp backed either.
Dennis1234
02-12-23, 13:33
Sorry. Had to delete. Last 4 digits of her phone # will suffice. repost pics or anything else... but not a complete phone # or addressIt may not be her pimp. She might just have somebody to check your plates if she doesn't return. Lots of bad Johns out there too. I have Fort Know security my house which isn't a bad idea if you play this game. Plus I have a massive arsenal in my house so no pimps, thieves etc. What to be fucking around my house.
FirstClass1
02-12-23, 17:17
It may not be her pimp. She might just have somebody to check your plates if she doesn't return. Lots of bad Johns out there too. I have Fort Know security my house which isn't a bad idea if you play this game. Plus I have a massive arsenal in my house so no pimps, thieves etc. What to be fucking around my house.I'd suggest not bringing first timers to your own place. There are older posts in this thread of prostitutes with help from Jamal and Tyrone doing parkour and squeezing through small bathroom windows on a second floor to rob a guy. Good to hear your well armed, but the best defense is not having to resort to them.
HollywoodGuy
02-14-23, 00:12
After a self imposed two month break from dating, all three of my out of town regulars descended on vegas at the same time. Good but not so good as I had to eliminate one (who showed up unexpectedly) due to scheduling issues. But I am near the end of a total of 8 back to back overnites. In between dropping off girl #1 at the airport I managed to drive by girl #2 (the one who got x'ed out), for a quick chat and a kiss in the car on the way to picking up girl #3. So on that day I had them both (1 & 3). Been a very long time since I banged two girls on the same day.
The advantages of long term sugaring. The cost for all 8 days is working out to about $1.5 per day including airfare (paid for 1 & 3 to come here), gifts and meals. And that cost should go down as I am planning on having the newest girl just ship some clothes and makeup here. So no more carry on bag fees at the airport. My longest term girl has been doing this since I moved here. Saves a lot of time, money and hassle. Not something you would want to do unless you are very sure about the longevity of the relationship.
But my longest term girl is now 10 years in, the next is 5 years. I met them at 19 and 18 respectively. And even though the newest one is very new (she is 21), I am not losing her for any reason as she started right out of the gate as a civi (met her on tiktok), and is a very very submissive girl. She only does what I tell her and asks for permission before she does anything on her own. The other two are a bit bratty, which can be cute, but it does require a bit of patience.
Its pretty hard to consider any of these girls as SB's at this point (even though 1 & 2 started out that way) as none of them get any cash payments. Just the normal expense it would cost to date any girl. And girl #3 even wanted to know if she should be picking up the airfare on the next trip (that was a no).
I just want to solute you for going 8 days. How??
I sometimes go away for 4 nights and have ambitions to make every night count. But night 3 I just need a break and don't even want to see new girls anymore.
You got super dong man.
After a self imposed two month break from dating, all three of my out of town regulars descended on vegas at the same time. Good but not so good as I had to eliminate one (who showed up unexpectedly) due to scheduling issues. But I am near the end of a total of 8 back to back overnites. In between dropping off girl #1 at the airport I managed to drive by girl #2 (the one who got x'ed out), for a quick chat and a kiss in the car on the way to picking up girl #3. So on that day I had them both (1 & 3). Been a very long time since I banged two girls on the same day.
The advantages of long term sugaring. The cost for all 8 days is working out to about $1.5 per day including airfare (paid for 1 & 3 to come here), gifts and meals. And that cost should go down as I am planning on having the newest girl just ship some clothes and makeup here. So no more carry on bag fees at the airport. My longest term girl has been doing this since I moved here. Saves a lot of time, money and hassle. Not something you would want to do unless you are very sure about the longevity of the relationship.
But my longest term girl is now 10 years in, the next is 5 years. I met them at 19 and 18 respectively. And even though the newest one is very new (she is 21), I am not losing her for any reason as she started right out of the gate as a civi (met her on tiktok), and is a very very submissive girl. She only does what I tell her and asks for permission before she does anything on her own. The other two are a bit bratty, which can be cute, but it does require a bit of patience.
Its pretty hard to consider any of these girls as SB's at this point (even though 1 & 2 started out that way) as none of them get any cash payments. Just the normal expense it would cost to date any girl. And girl #3 even wanted to know if she should be picking up the airfare on the next trip (that was a no).
HollywoodGuy
02-14-23, 14:08
I just want to solute you for going 8 days. How??
I sometimes go away for 4 nights and have ambitions to make every night count. But night 3 I just need a break and don't even want to see new girls anymore.
You got super dong man.Well I'm definitely trying to get them to do at least half of the work so to speak. And I think it's genetic (my dad and grandad were horn dogs). Plus I only stick to my type, so I am just naturally turned on. And not to get preachy but I never over eat, and I take my vitamin C daily (5mg twice a day) with a very occasional V boost (50mg) if I'm worried. But V can give me a headache so I use that very sparingly.
Talking to a 20 yo who says she has a boyfriend, but it's an open relationship and he's cool with it.
Anyone have an experience like this? Is this a bad idea?
HollywoodGuy
02-14-23, 17:30
Talking to a 20 yo who says she has a boyfriend, but it's an open relationship and he's cool with it.
Anyone have an experience like this? Is this a bad idea?Most SB's have same age boyfriends, FWB's, baby daddies, multiple SD's etc etc.
HollywoodGuy
02-14-23, 17:30
https://www.reddit.com/r/SugarBABYonlyforum/
I can't remember if I posted this. Creepy but very informative if you are a baller / high roller.
Uncountable
02-14-23, 19:46
https://www.reddit.com/r/SugarBABYonlyforum/
I can't remember if I posted this. Creepy but very informative if you are a baller / high roller.Mr. Hollywood, I recently went through the seeking chat of a former SB of mine (with her permission of course), whom I am still very good friends with. My mind was blown! Not only were men offering her significant amounts of money, but lots of them even paid heavily for the first platonic dates. My 300 ppm made me feel seriously cheap. And this SB was at best a 6 / 10, albeit with a sweet, caring, and submissive personality.
The chief reason seeking girls are quoting large sums is because there are men in LA who have more money than God and the rest of us are getting outbidded. Even the fat and ugly girls on seeking are quoting 500 and above and the extremely gorgeous ones are starting at a 1000. I do have the money, but I have never in my life gotten a satisfying experience whenever I paid more than 400. In fact, they tend to be my worst ones.
PriscillaM
02-14-23, 19:46
Talking to a 20 yo who says she has a boyfriend, but it's an open relationship and he's cool with it.
Anyone have an experience like this? Is this a bad idea?Make sure he is in a band and deals k. This way you know that when she is late for the fuk cha. Ber she was fucking her loser boyfriend and all your money for a non pro is going onto his deejay business.
Talking to a 20 yo who says she has a boyfriend, but it's an open relationship and he's cool with it.
Anyone have an experience like this? Is this a bad idea?Check out my post #7330 from 11 days ago.
HollywoodGuy
02-15-23, 00:17
Mr. Hollywood, I recently went through the seeking chat of a former SB of mine (with her permission of course), whom I am still very good friends with. My mind was blown! Not only were men offering her significant amounts of money, but lots of them even paid heavily for the first platonic dates. My 300 ppm made me feel seriously cheap. And this SB was at best a 6 / 10, albeit with a sweet, caring, and submissive personality.
The chief reason seeking girls are quoting large sums is because there are men in LA who have more money than God and the rest of us are getting outbidded. Even the fat and ugly girls on seeking are quoting 500 and above and the extremely gorgeous ones are starting at a 1000. I do have the money, but I have never in my life gotten a satisfying experience whenever I paid more than 400. In fact, they tend to be my worst ones.There will always be girls that will hookup with you for way less for a variety of reasons while they simultaneously rake some other guys over the coals. As a guy that married very young and stayed in long term basically monogamous relationships until I was in my early fifties my dating skills were almost non existent. And dating young girls was something I had not done since I was young.
As an early SD I was spending stupid money because I had it and didn't have to rely on my personality in any way to get the hottest girls (some of whom were great in bed & some not). But once I hit the skids I had to use all my extra time to hard core studying the dynamics of this arena just like it was a full time job in a new industry. I literally dedicated years to dissecting and analyzing every encounter I had and my way of approaching each girl. I had spreadsheets breaking it all down. And tons of notes. I spent hours reflecting on every conversation and sexual encounter.
Most of my life I had a fair amount of pussy but not always from the girls I really wanted it from. And if I had more money I would definitely up the physical quality of the girls I see today. But in no way would I sacrifice the personality type I need to be happy. What I have been spending lately is a pittance. I am not getting the quantity I want but I have few complaints with their overall looks or skills.
When I started this thread I was averaging about 25-40 dates a month for years. Eventually lowering myself to a $ or so per date it still came to 30 k or so a year. But a far cry from my heydey (more like 100 k a year). But over time I could see that the overall quality of the dates was improving even as the amount per date was decreasing.
Today I sacrifice very little in the quality of the sex at all. If it isn't covering all the bases so to speak, I am long gone after the first date. I can say that I have no trouble at all getting the personality types I am looking for which is always a two way street. I am most always the FWB, generic BF or real BF or just the calm in the middle of their stormy lives. So yeah they cut me some serious slack.
It's like most things. If you can get whatever you want by papering it over, it may look good from afar, but be far from good when you get closeup. When you have to work for it, the successes will be sweeter and more rewarding. So guys if you are determined to get the best pussy possible from girls that actually like you and vice versa. Put in the effort and you will be amazed at the results. Sorry for droning on but I guess you triggered me with that post.
So someone want to go through how to use WYP successfully? Even just a little?
I wouldn't pay for it but seeking just gave 50 credits free to port my profile over and I'm not paying for seeking again for a while so why not?
But I dunno that I want to just go around offering girls M / G $, or offering a bunch then trying to whip it around via text to mean not for the date but just to show up at my place.
Share anyone?
Again, just doing it cause it's free and maybe a cheaper alternative at times to seeking.
Check out my post #7330 from 11 days ago.Just checked that out. Ok so she made you use condoms. I can live with that. I do anyways. I'm more concerned if people say that you should be concerned some jealous dude is going to follow you home or show up banging on your hotel door while you're naked or something.
https://www.reddit.com/r/SugarBABYonlyforum/
I can't remember if I posted this. Creepy but very informative if you are a baller / high roller.Just spent some time here.
It's actually kind of amazing how some dudes carry themselves. Maybe I'm just not jaded because I'm married and I feel like it's a privilege to have this kind of covert fun and I'm not jaded by doing it all the time. But man. The guys who end conversations with "fine you were fat anyway" or "if you don't like it there are plenty of other sluts to talk to" is astounding. Like why would you put that kind of energy into the universe? It makes no sense to me. It's so easy to be classy and just say "we clearly aren't a match, best of luck to you" and end things cordially. And bonus if the girl is a *****. Trust that ending with class will only make her feel stupid after she realizes she did not, in fact, get the last laugh. She just ended by proving how much less class she has. There really is no downside to being polite through and through.
HollywoodGuy
02-15-23, 21:32
Just spent some time here.
It's actually kind of amazing how some dudes carry themselves. Maybe I'm just not jaded because I'm married and I feel like it's a privilege to have this kind of covert fun and I'm not jaded by doing it all the time. But man. The guys who end conversations with "fine you were fat anyway" or "if you don't like it there are plenty of other sluts to talk to" is astounding. Like why would you put that kind of energy into the universe? It makes no sense to me. It's so easy to be classy and just say "we clearly aren't a match, best of luck to you" and end things cordially. And bonus if the girl is a *****. Trust that ending with class will only make her feel stupid after she realizes she did not, in fact, get the last laugh. She just ended by proving how much less class she has. There really is no downside to being polite through and through.I almost always give the girl the last word. There are about 100 of them for every one of us. So who cares? Sometimes I may end with "Not a match but good luck in your search". At that point they start lowering the price or just disappear. Ether way I am gone as I do not negotiate.
Or sometimes I just say "I will keep that in mind and thanks for the quick reply". Or "you are out of my league". Don't wanna get banned because some Karen had a bad hair day.
So I don't mind tattoos on a girl and I love me a petite young Asian. But when I saw this I just couldn't stop thinking about what it would be like to fuck her. I mean, must be totally crazy, right:
https://members.seeking.com/member/820074bd-2f4b-47d7-bc73-2b4cf3c6c63d
Nice girl, good fuck. She's easygoing and knows how to suck cock. No BBFS, but she's athletic and enthusiastic. Not as weird as I though it was going to be.
Pretty expensive at 6. 5, probably won't repeat. But there's a lot of potential there.
I always give the girl the last word. There are about 100 of them for every one of us. So who cares? Sometimes I may end with "Not a match but good luck in your search". At that point they start lowering the price or just disappear. Ether way I am gone as I do not negotiate.
Or sometimes I just say "I will keep that in mind and thanks for the quick reply".See but those are polite ways to close down the interaction. I've got no problem with how you do that.
But I'm seeing lots of situations where the guy wants to end by dunking on the girl. To let her know that he resents and has animus towards her. But why? I can't imagine who these guys are in real life. That kind of stuff isn't contained to texts with sugar girls. That kind of anger is part of a person's fabric of being.
HollywoodGuy
02-15-23, 22:42
See but those are polite ways to close down the interaction. I've got no problem with how you do that.
But I'm seeing lots of situations where the guy wants to end by dunking on the girl. To let her know that he resents and has animus towards her. But why? I can't imagine who these guys are in real life. That kind of stuff isn't contained to texts with sugar girls. That kind of anger is part of a person's fabric of being.Having been in a few open SB relationships I get a lot of feedback from the girls about what goes on out there. It's definitely not all good.
FarFarAway
02-16-23, 01:24
Or sometimes I just say "I will keep that in mind and thanks for the quick reply". Or "you are out of my league". Don't wanna get banned because some Karen had a bad hair day.I completely agree w / HG. I have definitely used that "you are out of my league" before, there are many ways that could be interpreted, one or two might get the girl to come back w / a more reasonable number.
I hadn't heard "I will keep that in mind" before HG put it here. I think the next time I saw it, a POT was using it on me. So, I at least understood what she meant.
I reported some time back about a 40's MILF, a total knockout, who was trying to have me get a room at a coastal resort for the weekend. I never bit, I don't really have the freedom to do that w / my SO and all. I wrote her off at least a year ago. However, I have seen her profile active on the site recently. Still, as much as I wanted to bang her, I didn't see the point in contacting her. Perhaps she saw my profile on one of the few times I was active on the site (I keep it deactivated when I am not paid up), anyways, I just got a text from her. Hmm, perhaps she has decided to become more reasonable. I would not exclude the possibility. Or perhaps she learned that I was one of the more sane guys on the site, and lots of the other dudes who have been hitting her up weren't.
HollywoodGuy
02-16-23, 03:36
Last weeks overnite guests.
Girl 1 - 5.5 - 115
Girl 3 - 5.2 - 100
So I don't mind tattoos on a girl and I love me a petite young Asian. But when I saw this I just couldn't stop thinking about what it would be like to fuck her. I mean, must be totally crazy, right:
https://members.seeking.com/member/820074bd-2f4b-47d7-bc73-2b4cf3c6c63d
Nice girl, good fuck. She's easygoing and knows how to suck cock. No BBFS, but she's athletic and enthusiastic. Not as weird as I though it was going to be.
Pretty expensive at 6. 5, probably won't repeat. But there's a lot of potential there.I mean this very nicely and politely. I've always wondered who picks girls like that. To each his own and no judgment. But I'd personally just be alone with my hand than spend 5 minutes in the presence of a girl like that. She scares me. She looks like someone who would do something crazy and you'd look back and say "well obviously. ".
FarFarAway
02-16-23, 12:49
I mean this very nicely and politely. I've always wondered who picks girls like that. To each his own and no judgment. But I'd personally just be alone with my hand than spend 5 minutes in the presence of a girl like that. She scares me. She looks like someone who would do something crazy and you'd look back and say "well obviously. ".Could not agree more. I draw the line at face tattoos, excessive piercings, etc. It is sometimes interesting to fantasize about someone far away from us socially / demographically, and I entertain picking up girls in Starbucks like that, but this is way out there.
FarFarAway, you've had a gift sitting in your inbox for a week now.
You owe me a beer.
ShowMeHow23
02-16-23, 14:28
Have any of you CA guys gone to London and found success out there? Sorry, I get it, this is a SoCal board, but I'm going out there for work and will be there for several months. It seems everyone out there has "Passport ready" in their profile and probably messaged at least 100+ girls out there, and barely a nibble from anyone.
Any pointers for across to see potential?
HollywoodGuy
02-16-23, 15:38
Have any of you CA guys gone to London and found success out there? Sorry, I get it, this is a SoCal board, but I'm going out there for work and will be there for several months. It seems everyone out there has "Passport ready" in their profile and probably messaged at least 100+ girls out there, and barely a nibble from anyone.
Any pointers for across to see potential?There is an international board. Forgot where the link is. Maybe someone can help out?
HollywoodGuy
02-16-23, 15:40
I mean this very nicely and politely. I've always wondered who picks girls like that. To each his own and no judgment. But I'd personally just be alone with my hand than spend 5 minutes in the presence of a girl like that. She scares me. She looks like someone who would do something crazy and you'd look back and say "well obviously. ".This girl reminds me of the girls that used to go to the fetish parties I used to attend in L. A. Honestly a girl is a girl is a girl. Sometimes the plain jane-iest ones are the freakiest and the freaky looking ones are just posuers trying to look trendy. No comment on this one though as I do not know her.
Have any of you CA guys gone to London and found success out there? Sorry, I get it, this is a SoCal board, but I'm going out there for work and will be there for several months. It seems everyone out there has "Passport ready" in their profile and probably messaged at least 100+ girls out there, and barely a nibble from anyone.
Any pointers for across to see potential?I would think you should both change your location to London and use a VPN that will cause your "Recent Location" to be reported as UK.
Otherwise, they likely don't even read your message as you're not local.
FarFarAway
02-16-23, 16:56
FarFarAway, you've had a gift sitting in your inbox for a week now.
You owe me a beer.Mea culpa, man. The shit hit the fan at my house, I haven't had any freedom whatsoever to hit that referral you gave me.
FarFarAway
02-16-23, 16:59
I would think you should both change your location to London and use a VPN that will cause your "Recent Location" to be reported as UK.
Otherwise, they likely don't even read your message as you're not local.The pursuit of 'road sugar' has a long history. I have done it successfully in several cases. In Chicago and San Fran, for instance. You can find advice about how to go about it posted in sugar threads. I have never done any international, but one my bowl buddies, Murrican, says that is his major playground.
PhillUponThese
02-16-23, 17:47
I'm was out in Germany recently-Like RanMan said, just change your Location. I've been out there before and its 50 times better than being back in Central California!! Once they know you're American its like shooting fish in a barrel. They will even travel to you on a train for hours just to meet up. None of that cash app ppm shit. The going rate has been 200-300 euro. Most will take what you give them as long as you treat them nice. I keep the age range between 19-23. I don't do chicks with kids or over 25. Skies the limit. Same rules apply, no pay before play etc etc. London has so many hot young chicks its almost hard to believe.
Don't be too honest in your bio-just say new the area (don't say how long you're going to be there) and looking to chat and possibly connect over drinks. Then just go from. When it's time to leave don't say shit!! They need to believe you live there now and well hell you kinda do.
I would think you should both change your location to London and use a VPN that will cause your "Recent Location" to be reported as UK.
Otherwise, they likely don't even read your message as you're not local.
Sandstorm1373
02-16-23, 18:16
Does anyone know if a Visa prepaid card will work for payment on seeking? It seems my account got suspended even though I never had an account. I am forced now to create a secret account.
The pursuit of 'road sugar' has a long history. I have done it successfully in several cases. In Chicago and San Fran, for instance. You can find advice about how to go about it posted in sugar threads. I have never done any international, but one my bowl buddies, Murrican, says that is his major playground.Your bowl buddy concurs.
Actually the origin of my screen name here is just that. I'm the American (murrican) when I travel seek. In Latin American countries it's pretty amazing how far 500 dollars will go. Yesterday I was planning a trip w a 19 year old. Offered the equivalent of 550 dollars which is quite high for where I'm going. And I know it. But I want service. She accepts and later says that normally she's used to 3-5 hour dates but I want basically a 24 hour stint. I very politely replied that I thought my gift was generous but I totally understand if it's not her thing and I'll take that as a hint to move on. I can't tell you how fast she replied. "No it's ok. I'm happy with it. Of course I can". 3 texts in rapid succession. This is, incidentally, why I pay US prices in non-US markets. I want what I want and I don't want to be made to feel like I'm getting a favor.
FirstClass1
02-16-23, 19:35
Have any of you CA guys gone to London and found success out there? Sorry, I get it, this is a SoCal board, but I'm going out there for work and will be there for several months. It seems everyone out there has "Passport ready" in their profile and probably messaged at least 100+ girls out there, and barely a nibble from anyone.
Any pointers for across to see potential?I've had many great experiences with gorgeous girls in UK, France, Germany, Scandinavia, Prague, and Budapest. I like to line up several girls before traveling through, letting POTs know that I'll be in the area at a certain date. Being an American makes you exotic and interesting to these dimes.
You can also set your location to a European city, and enjoy. There's a dedicated international board with forums specific to each country, though with varying levels of activity.
What does changing your location to the local location do for you? Isn't it just obvious you are not from there when you show up with a different accent and a hotel room?
I've had many great experiences with gorgeous girls in UK, France, Germany, Scandinavia, Prague, and Budapest. I like to line up several girls before traveling through, letting POTs know that I'll be in the area at a certain date. Being an American makes you exotic and interesting to these dimes.
You can also set your location to a European city, and enjoy. There's a dedicated international board with forums specific to each country, though with varying levels of activity.
HollywoodGuy
02-16-23, 20:44
What does changing your location to the local location do for you? Isn't it just obvious you are not from there when you show up with a different accent and a hotel room?The girls do it all the time.
HollywoodGuy
02-16-23, 20:56
Just a random poll. Only click on the image you are most interested in. This will count the preferences, and the number of clicks will be displayed when you hover over the image.
The girls do it all the time.Right-o. But what does it do? What's the benefit of doing it? Like you show up in searches more or something?
HollywoodGuy
02-17-23, 00:04
Right-o. But what does it do? What's the benefit of doing it? Like you show up in searches more or something?I know nothing about international. But domestically? Sometimes they travel, or go to school in one city but live in another. I believe the scammers change their address for obvious reasons or sometimes they just get bored or hope you will fly them in if you like them once you find out they live elsewhere. I have had that happen to me a few times, but I never fly girls in.
I only broke that rule recently because I met a girl on tiktok, so not a SB. No payments.
I had a 3 yr SB, starting when she was 20.
At first, she was just one more in my little black book.
Over time, I basically fell for her to the point I would happily inject her with little RanMan's given the opportunity.
She says I'm the 3rd guy she's been with. . . I know I'm probably naive, but I actually believe her.
Over the last few months she started flaking, leaving early, showing up unshaved, and just generally not attentive.
I made clear that I felt it was on the wane and than I had other things that were working out better.
She did put in more effort, but I knew it was just to keep the arrangement going, so I let her go.
I was just too into her, and it wasn't reciprocated, and I just couldn't deal with that anymore.
She never once logged in during our entire time, now she's back with the same old profile (not too smart I think).
Seeing her back on the site a few days later kinda killing me.
Maybe she meets one of you wonderful gents, but I also know that site can be a bit rough on the ladies.
Not-so-secretly hoping she realizes it's fucked up out there and comes begging back . . . I know I'm kidding myself.
Anyone else been here?
Chupacabra
02-17-23, 22:09
I had a 3 yr SB, starting when she was 20.
At first, she was just one more in my little black book.
Over time, I basically fell for her to the point I would happily inject her with little RanMan's given the opportunity.
She says I'm the 3rd guy she's been with. . . I know I'm probably nave, but I actually believe her.
Over the last few months she started flaking, leaving early, showing up unshaved, and just generally not attentive.
I made clear that I felt it was on the wane and than I had other things that were working out better.
She did put in more effort, but I knew it was just to keep the arrangement going, so I let her go.
I was just too into her, and it wasn't reciprocated, and I just couldn't deal with that anymore.
She never once logged in during our entire time, now she's back with the same old profile (not too smart I think).
Seeing her back on the site a few days later kinda killing me.
Maybe she meets one of you wonderful gents, but I also know that site can be a bit rough on the ladies.
Not-so-secretly hoping she realizes it's fucked up out there and comes begging back . . . I know I'm kidding myself.
Anyone else been here?Yeah I've been there, but I learned to accept the cold hard facts. Sugar babies are just hookers by another name. Sure, maybe they are a bit more picky about their johns and they stick around longer, but let's not kid ourselves, they're hookers and you can't turn a ho into a housewife. If you want Mama or Mrs. RanMan you meet her in church or at the park or something, not on SA bro. Move on as soon as possible, otherwise you're just wasting your time and energy.
FarFarAway
02-18-23, 12:54
https://members.seeking.com/member/f9f6f90d-1583-47dc-9132-137a259c34b3
HG, you have said every guy wants a GF who loves to fuck, until he actually gets a GF who loves to fuck.
I appreciate your sharing that. It's a dimension of this game that goes undiscussed.
There's a saying that you should never love things because they can't love you back. The same can be said about people. Don't love people who can't or won't love you back. It's easier said than done of course. But you know it's true. If she is back on the site after a few days you are not having the same experience in the relationships as she is.
I had a 3 yr SB, starting when she was 20.
At first, she was just one more in my little black book.
Over time, I basically fell for her to the point I would happily inject her with little RanMan's given the opportunity.
She says I'm the 3rd guy she's been with. . . I know I'm probably naive, but I actually believe her.
Over the last few months she started flaking, leaving early, showing up unshaved, and just generally not attentive.
I made clear that I felt it was on the wane and than I had other things that were working out better.
She did put in more effort, but I knew it was just to keep the arrangement going, so I let her go.
I was just too into her, and it wasn't reciprocated, and I just couldn't deal with that anymore.
She never once logged in during our entire time, now she's back with the same old profile (not too smart I think).
Seeing her back on the site a few days later kinda killing me.
Maybe she meets one of you wonderful gents, but I also know that site can be a bit rough on the ladies.
Not-so-secretly hoping she realizes it's fucked up out there and comes begging back . . . I know I'm kidding myself.
Anyone else been here?
FarFarAway
02-18-23, 14:24
I appreciate your sharing that. It's a dimension of this game that goes undiscussed.
There's a saying that you should never love things because they can't love you back. The same can be said about people. Don't love people who can't or won't love you back. It's easier said than done of course. But you know it's true. If she is back on the site after a few days you are not having the same experience in the relationships as she is.For sure, you don't want to fall in love w / a SB. The fact a lot of us have SOs we are committed to, for whatever reason, tends to prevent that. You can use the excuse of catching feelings to ditch a SB also.
I have a theory about those guys who famously assert here that SBs are no different than hookers. It isn't too flattering, I'll just say. I don't fuck escorts, Korean apartment girls, masseuses, streetwalkers, etc. , but some of you see them as all the same. Too bad if so. I'd prefer those w / that attitude stay away from SA, because a John attitude is the largest risk to the continued existence of the site. I can only find what I want (high quality pussy, ongoing, and ideally an exclusive relationship) on SA, so I don't want anyone to mess it up. I want true NPs. Hard to find, great to keep.
HollywoodGuy
02-18-23, 16:04
https://members.seeking.com/member/f9f6f90d-1583-47dc-9132-137a259c34b3
HG, you have said every guy wants a GF who loves to fuck, until he actually gets a GF who loves to fuck.Well I hope she liked to titty fuck as well. Be a shame to see them go to waste. My new GF (met on tiktok) told me the other day that we needed to limit our fucking to 3 or 4 times a day. LOL.
HollywoodGuy
02-18-23, 16:48
For sure, you don't want to fall in love w / a SB. The fact a lot of us have SOs we are committed to, for whatever reason, tends to prevent that. You can use the excuse of catching feelings to ditch a SB also.
I have a theory about those guys who famously assert here that SBs are no different than hookers. It isn't too flattering, I'll just say. I don't fuck escorts, Korean apartment girls, masseuses, streetwalkers, etc. , but some of you see them as all the same. Too bad if so. I'd prefer those w / that attitude stay away from SA, because a John attitude is the largest risk to the continued existence of the site. I can only find what I want (high quality pussy, ongoing, and ideally an exclusive relationship) on SA, so I don't want anyone to mess it up. I want true NPs. Hard to find, great to keep.In 16 years of sugaring I have fallen in love 3 times. The first one was a true psycho. But she could only keep up her "normal girl" game for about 6 months. I had the LAPD remove her from my home 3 times after we broke up. She was exclusive to me for about a year and then non-exclusive for another year. Long story.
The second girl we were never a good match in the FC, so it was difficult but necessary to break up (although we are still together in an open relationship 10 years later). And we will always be a out of sync in the FC but I am grateful for what I do get and we do rely on each other emotionally quite a bit (facetime multiple times a day, everyday).
With the third one we had come to a crossroads between me and another guy and another girl she both almost married. She got engaged to the other two but eventually she chose the other guy, then came back to me two years later, but it just wasn't the same. She found her own path as people often do. I am actually still in love with her but my new GF is working very hard to make me forget her. As a single guy I will let myself go because I do not care about the inevitable pain that will pop up at some time in the future. It's just a part of life (mine anyways).
I did have at least 3 other girls that wanted to marry me but I was strictly in the booty call mindset with them. So no issues there. I know that at least two of them did marry right after leaving me, so that was their goal in life. I have never been super lucky in love and have never met my so called soul-mate. Although my second wife and the afore mentioned girls 2 & 3 I had high hopes for. Especially girl three. And my new GF is going all out but she has a couple of flaws I am going to have to accept to stay in the game.
Being a perfectionist in almost everything I do is a battle I have waged my entire life. And makes it especially difficult in relationships. Which is the main reason I have had multiple serious overlapping relationships over the years to try and fill in the gaps.
But to get to your point. These are not the type of relationships you would expect to have with a pro SB or whatever term you wish to use. I have a pro SB girl here in vegas. I tried to up the relationship but she basically laughed it off (more than once). I actually had to stop seeing her a while back as I just could not keep it professional. But we still chat and she is down for a $ anytime I want to see her.
Sidebar... Has anyone purchased Oxytocin online? I got some recently but have not used it yet. I only want to use it with girl 3 (who asked me to buy it) or my new GF when the time is right.
Hoping to draw on the collective wisdom of this board.
Are usually seek internationally. Just lined one up locally that I'm pretty stoked about.
Problem is she can't host and I can't have a local hotel on my credit card because I'm married.
Is there a way to stay at a hotel but not with a credit card? I thought about getting a prepaid card, but I'm pretty sure you can't use those for the incidentals run on your credit card.
PlutoKiller
02-18-23, 18:25
Hoping to draw on the collective wisdom of this board.
Are usually seek internationally. Just lined one up locally that I'm pretty stoked about.
Problem is she can't host and I can't have a local hotel on my credit card because I'm married.
Is there a way to stay at a hotel but not with a credit card? I thought about getting a prepaid card, but I'm pretty sure you can't use those for the incidentals run on your credit card.Hotels still accept cash😇.
GeorgiaMikeC
02-18-23, 19:16
Have any of you CA guys gone to London and found success out there? Sorry, I get it, this is a SoCal board, but I'm going out there for work and will be there for several months. It seems everyone out there has "Passport ready" in their profile and probably messaged at least 100+ girls out there, and barely a nibble from anyone.
Any pointers for across to see potential?Shoot me DM. I went over there for a week and was kind of surprised how much success I had. I just shot a bunch of messages off saying I'm from LA and was coming to town for work with a 400 £ offer.
HollywoodGuy
02-18-23, 19:17
Hoping to draw on the collective wisdom of this board.
Are usually seek internationally. Just lined one up locally that I'm pretty stoked about.
Problem is she can't host and I can't have a local hotel on my credit card because I'm married.
Is there a way to stay at a hotel but not with a credit card? I thought about getting a prepaid card, but I'm pretty sure you can't use those for the incidentals run on your credit card.Casa Bella in DTLA. It's better than it looks and great for quick stays. Staff is totally cool. Debit cards accepted. Maybe a small deposit required. If you ask at the desk you can get 2 hours for $.5 . At least they used to do that. The regular rate is $1.1... I used to pay cash for the quick stays and I believe they take cash for any stay.
Or ask rodeway on Olympic near DTLA. New owners that would probably agree to anything. Very laid back
Casa Bella in DTLA. It's better than it looks and great for quick stays. Staff is totally cool. Debit cards accepted. Maybe a small deposit required. If you ask at the desk you can get 2 hours for $.5 . At least they used to do that. The regular rate is $1.1... I used to pay cash for the quick stays and I believe they take cash for any stay.
Or ask rodeway on Olympic near DTLA. New owners that would probably agree to anything. Very laid backThose are in Westlake, not DTLA, but damn if they work they work.
I'm going to call them today and see if it's possible to check in without running a credit card. I'll sound like a total narco but I don't know how much choice I have.
ShowMeHow23
02-19-23, 14:09
Woops. I went MIA packing and taking care of loose ends around here. Thanks for the replies and info gents.
HollywoodGuy
02-19-23, 18:36
Those are in Westlake, not DTLA, but damn if they work they work.
I'm going to call them today and see if it's possible to check in without running a credit card. I'll sound like a total narco but I don't know how much choice I have.Well like 5 minutes from DTLA. I have stayed at both many many times without an issue. But when you get there just ask to see the room first as some are better than others. Don't just take the first one they give you if you don't like it. Although at Casa Bella if you do the short stay its going to be one of the smaller rooms across from the office (there won't be a choice).
Also at Casa Bella they will let you reserve a room with no credit card but not at rodeway. If you are just gonna pull up and do it right then and there, CB gets full on the weekends as it is very small and a known no-tel. Rodeway is much bigger but they do sell out as well. Check for any major events like sports or concerts or conventions as they always fill up at these times.
FarFarAway
02-20-23, 02:48
Hotels still accept cash😇.This is absolutely not true. I have been in a couple of low level chain hotels in the Inland Empire over the past year, and they prominently post that they don't accept cash. I presume this was due to drug deals, etc. , being conducted there.
However, broadly, this is a way to handle payment to a hotel with the maximum security. To check in, you absolutely must have a credit card and a drivers license. So fake identity cards don't help. The best you can do is use your middle name, for anonymity. Anyway, many places, you can pay in cash upon checkout (and you MUST check out, you cannot just slink off into the night / day) and the charge against your card will be reversed. In my experience, it doesn't / didn't show up on my CC statements. However, this experience was several years back, so it might not still be true, and it might not be true with all credit cards.
Hotels might accept a debit card *if* your name is on it (I. E. , prepaids like we use to get SA membership will not work). Others say they buy hotels.com gift cards and use those. Also, the amount of $ on the card has to be at least the room charge + the deposit, which is typically a ridiculous amount (like $250).
JollyJohnRoger
02-20-23, 11:08
Agreed, ValentinaRose is hot.
I messaged with her like a year ago, she wanted me to come to her in SGV for the M&G. Nope, babies come to me.PSA:
Buyer Beware.
I met this hot little number 6 months ago on SA.
The girl herself is amazing, but the drama with her booker / pimp / BF.
If you're texting 626-557-3x xx, you're talking to.
Her pimp / boyfriend / booker Randy, who lurks in the.
Background and uses recordings and texts for extortion / blackmail.
Purposes.
Protect yourself from being fucked over in a bad way. It's the.
Arrangement from hell, something you can't and won't forget!
PlutoKiller
02-20-23, 11:55
This is absolutely not true. I have been in a couple of low level chain hotels in the Inland Empire over the past year, and they prominently post that they don't accept cash. I presume this was due to drug deals, etc. , being conducted there.
However, broadly, this is a way to handle payment to a hotel with the maximum security. To check in, you absolutely must have a credit card and a drivers license. So fake identity cards don't help. The best you can do is use your middle name, for anonymity. Anyway, many places, you can pay in cash upon checkout (and you MUST check out, you cannot just slink off into the night / day) and the charge against your card will be reversed. In my experience, it doesn't / didn't show up on my CC statements. However, this experience was several years back, so it might not still be true, and it might not be true with all credit cards.
Hotels might accept a debit card *if* your name is on it (I. E. , prepaids like we use to get SA membership will not work). Others say they buy hotels.com gift cards and use those. Also, the amount of $ on the card has to be at least the room charge + the deposit, which is typically a ridiculous amount (like $250).You are going to the wrong hotels / motels then. Avoid the chains and go to small no tells. You need an ID of course but never had an issue paying in cash for the 2-3 hours that I needed the room.
Holy crap what happened!
Being blackmailed is one of my biggest fears on this site.
PSA:
Buyer Beware.
I met this hot little number 6 months ago on SA.
The girl herself is amazing, but the drama with her booker / pimp / BF.
If you're texting 626-557-3x xx, you're talking to.
Her pimp / boyfriend / booker Randy, who lurks in the.
Background and uses recordings and texts for extortion / blackmail.
Purposes.
Protect yourself from being fucked over in a bad way. It's the.
Arrangement from hell, something you can't and won't forget!
HollywoodGuy
02-20-23, 19:02
Holy crap what happened!
Being blackmailed is one of my biggest fears on this site.Happened to me twice. Just the threat. Seeking girl ... I just hung up on her and her pimp / manager. Also happened to me on POF. Same BS different day. But I guess if you are married or don't check ID's anything is possible.
FarFarAway
02-20-23, 21:02
You are going to the wrong hotels / motels then. Avoid the chains and go to small no tells. You need an ID of course but never had an issue paying in cash for the 2-3 hours that I needed the room.Depends on what sort of girl you are going to see there. If you want one who has been on the 'stroll', I am sure a no-tell is fine. If you want a true SB, and a NP, you aren't going to get them to go to a Motel 6 equivalent. It will make them feel just like what they don't want to feel like, a hooker. So you need to go to someplace sorta nice. Keep it reasonable price-wise using some of the apps that give you day rates. I have no trouble w / getting Hiltons etc. For about 100 for a few hours.
FarFarAway
02-20-23, 21:05
Happened to me twice. Just the threat. Seeking girl ... I just hung up on her and her pimp / manager. Also happened to me on POF. Same BS different day. But I guess if you are married or don't check ID's anything is possible.How do you mean the latter? Checking an I'd to be sure that the girl is at least 18? Or something else?
Citrus1999
02-21-23, 13:29
Anyone have current discount code? I think there was at 15% but I didn't write it down. Going to do another 30 day premium to replenish the well, thanks.
FarFarAway
02-21-23, 15:20
Anyone have current discount code? I think there was at 15% but I didn't write it down. Going to do another 30 day premium to replenish the well, thanks.Someone got this googling. Also search the other cities sugar threads, I think I saw a 30% this morning.
Anyone have current discount code? I think there was at 15% but I didn't write it down. Going to do another 30 day premium to replenish the well, thanks.Every time you log on they bombard you with a discount code to come back. Or for me at least. And the discount always varies from 15-33. Usually 15-25 tho. Just take whatever code they give you, copy paste, and replace the numbers with 33. You now have a 33% code. If no code try clearing your cookies and logging back on. GL.
https://members.seeking.com/member/f9b029b5-96bd-46a4-94b4-a19768b24033
She is in Pasadena and says she down with anything. She can travel and host but wants 50 to travel and 100 to host upfront. I'm not sending money upfront no matter how little it is. If you guys want to risk it, let me know how it goes.
HollywoodGuy
02-22-23, 00:27
How do you mean the latter? Checking an I'd to be sure that the girl is at least 18? Or something else?Checking for age verification. Lot of wannabe and can't wait girls out there.
https://members.seeking.com/member/f9b029b5-96bd-46a4-94b4-a19768b24033
She is in Pasadena and says she down with anything. She can travel and host but wants 50 to travel and 100 to host upfront. I'm not sending money upfront no matter how little it is. If you guys want to risk it, let me know how it goes.Different very hot 22 yo messaged me yesterday. Always a huge red flag when they show in the favorited tab, but not viewed tab (ie they favorite you without viewing you). So I'm predisposed to say F off. But she's hot. So I message her.
And she responds that she'd love to meet (ok) and wants a relationship with intimacy (ok I smell bait coming) but to demonstrate I'm serious she wants a gift before we meet (aaaaaaaand there it is). I politely, always politely, decline. And then she blocks me. Confirming my suspicion I'm being taken for a fool.
If you see her, brunette, 22,2 photos, second one is her in restaurant with face resting in her hands. Can't link because she blocked me. Very cute tho.
PriscillaM
02-22-23, 14:13
Different very hot 22 yo messaged me yesterday. Always a huge red flag when they show in the favorited tab, but not viewed tab (ie they favorite you without viewing you). So I'm predisposed to say F off. But she's hot. So I message her.
And she responds that she'd love to meet (ok) and wants a relationship with intimacy (ok I smell bait coming) but to demonstrate I'm serious she wants a gift before we meet (aaaaaaaand there it is). I politely, always politely, decline. And then she blocks me. Confirming my suspicion I'm being taken for a fool.
If you see her, brunette, 22,2 photos, second one is her in restaurant with face resting in her hands. Can't link because she blocked me. Very cute tho.Why not just go to the wharf and try to get Dora or yu yu to fuck?
JohnRichard
02-22-23, 16:01
A while ago, in different job, I used to drive to the central valley frequently so got into sugar there. Met some pretty hot latinas there, had fun times.
Recently, I was interviewing candidates for a job in my department. Had an applicant from Fresno. I thought I recognized the name (It was usually not difficult to figure out names once I had a cell number). Looked at linked in profile and her photo confirmed it was my former sb!
Declined based on qualifications and inability to hire in a location where we don't have any office.
But it would have been difficult to get through that interview 😂.
I am amazed at the variance in price levels, and I agree you can often get as good or better experiences for less money. I have had sixes try to charge more than a playboy centerfold. I encourage people to try different sources, for example dancers but also sugar babies. Try a porn star. Try different sugar baby and escort sites. Different dance clubs. It may yield something better, but even if not, it will be different.
There will always be girls that will hookup with you for way less for a variety of reasons while they simultaneously rake some other guys over the coals. As a guy that married very young and stayed in long term basically monogamous relationships until I was in my early fifties my dating skills were almost non existent. And dating young girls was something I had not done since I was young.
As an early SD I was spending stupid money because I had it and didn't have to rely on my personality in any way to get the hottest girls (some of whom were great in bed & some not). But once I hit the skids I had to use all my extra time to hard core studying the dynamics of this arena just like it was a full time job in a new industry. I literally dedicated years to dissecting and analyzing every encounter I had and my way of approaching each girl. I had spreadsheets breaking it all down. And tons of notes. I spent hours reflecting on every conversation and sexual encounter.
Most of my life I had a fair amount of pussy but not always from the girls I really wanted it from. And if I had more money I would definitely up the physical quality of the girls I see today. But in no way would I sacrifice the personality type I need to be happy. What I have been spending lately is a pittance. I am not getting the quantity I want but I have few complaints with their overall looks or skills.
A while ago, in different job, I used to drive to the central valley frequently so got into sugar there. Met some pretty hot latinas there, had fun times.
Recently, I was interviewing candidates for a job in my department. Had an applicant from Fresno. I thought I recognized the name (It was usually not difficult to figure out names once I had a cell number). Looked at linked in profile and her photo confirmed it was my former sb!
Declined based on qualifications and inability to hire in a location where we don't have any office.
But it would have been difficult to get through that interview 😂.There's no law that says you can't discriminate for personal reasons.
In fact, you can discriminate for ANY reason so long as it's not race, religion, gender, national origin, sexual orientation, etc.
There is a famous case where a dentist fired his assistant after they stopped sleeping together. He won, because the reason wasn't a "protected class".
An HR expert privately told me long ago, you're much much less likely to get sued if you don't hire in the first place, rather than hire and later fire.
So, quietly put their resume in the "pass" pile and move on.
Good catch!
A while ago, in different job, I used to drive to the central valley frequently so got into sugar there. Met some pretty hot latinas there, had fun times.
Recently, I was interviewing candidates for a job in my department. Had an applicant from Fresno. I thought I recognized the name (It was usually not difficult to figure out names once I had a cell number). Looked at linked in profile and her photo confirmed it was my former sb!
Declined based on qualifications and inability to hire in a location where we don't have any office.
But it would have been difficult to get through that interview 😂.Incredible lack of judgment using your actual phone number for this hobby. Incredible. It's so easy to get a Google voice number or other number.
Why not just go to the wharf and try to get Dora or yu yu to fuck?In all honesty I'm tired of the AMP game. I'm tired of tired 45 year old Chinese women negotiating with me when my pants are off for 20 more dollars. Tired of being disappointed with what I see when I turn over. Tired of the transactional nature of it all.
I read your amazing reports but honestly I can't tell if you're being sarcastic about the wharf or not. Like if there's actually anything cute there. Because I just can't get a hando from another woman old enough to be my wife.
FarFarAway
02-23-23, 10:25
I am trying to find a pet sitter, and the profile photos from the girls who post there definitely make me think of SBs. Similar life stages, etc. If I didn't have a SO I might be tempted, but of course a sitter will know all my personal info.
FarFarAway
02-23-23, 10:35
In fact, I just searched the sitter site and I recognize a POT I met for lunch once.
Uncountable
02-23-23, 17:24
In a couple of weeks, I need to take a vacation elsewhere. I chatted this lady up and she told me that she wanted 1 k / meet. I told her I would bless her with half, 500, instead. She instantly blocked me. People are out here paying premium for these white women. It is ridiculous. Like I said in my last post, this is not even GPS because tons of us are paying these outrageous prices, so pretty women are now insulted at making measly five hundred to hang. In my native country, that same money would get me a woman that would be my servant for a week, LOL!
https://members.seeking.com/member/b5d4fcb1-a196-4d6e-89ab-87673242674b
Citrus1999
02-23-23, 17:38
Every time you log on they bombard you with a discount code to come back. Or for me at least. And the discount always varies from 15-33. Usually 15-25 tho. Just take whatever code they give you, copy paste, and replace the numbers with 33. You now have a 33% code. If no code try clearing your cookies and logging back on. GL.Well I got 20% code from Google, but trying to figure how to to pay. Tried the Vanilla and OneVanilla cards both got declined, I think because the site bills from international IP? I remember they used to work before. How are you guys signing up for premium anonymously?
Why not just go to the wharf and try to get Dora or yu yu to fuck?Does Dora fuck? Because she told me they do not do that there. She is as cute as a button. Kept her mask on and wanted. 80 for a simple handjob with zero touching. $ for a handjob naked, with no touching; and 1. 2 for a handjob with roaming. I was flabbergasted. I talked her down to $ because I had to see those nipples. I agree with Priscilla. They are in the top 3 I have ever seen. Nice bolt ons that look real enough. Slim girl with shaved kitty and very smooth skin. But a total sociopath when it comes to business. I tossed the idea in my head to offer her 2 bills for sex. Wonder if she will bite. She did let me touch her ass and grope it. I did get to suck on her gorgeous nips. But I was foolish and paid. 6 for the hour and she shorted me like 15 minutes. Massage is terrible. Next time I will pay the. 4 for half an hour. Priscilla, thanks for the lead. You are indeed a closer. And closers get to drink their coffee.
Uncountable
02-23-23, 20:21
Meeting up with her next week.
Don't judge me; my balls are full, LOL.
https://members.seeking.com/member/41a0db7c-4c89-48fd-b2fe-11353d52cf4b
Meeting up with her next week.
Don't judge me; my balls are full, LOL.
https://members.seeking.com/member/41a0db7c-4c89-48fd-b2fe-11353d52cf4bI'm calling it: she's going to be fat.
Uncountable
02-26-23, 14:38
I proposed three-fifty dollars; she asked if I could do 4, and even though I could, I was somewhat angry and respectfully replied that I couldn't. She bid me farewell. I was stunned. Only a 50 dollar difference.
https://members.seeking.com/member/ccaffa51-4262-4b6f-ad2b-f412c0e6ad2f
https://members.seeking.com/member/50be26ca-6f79-4564-a0c5-f26d1296dcc1
This one recently moved back to SoCal from Vegas. She's a little desperate for money since she crashed her car. She has a nice big ass and knows how to use it, LOL. She has gps but if you guys that are smooth talkers can probably bring her down.
I proposed three-fifty dollars; she asked if I could do 4, and even though I could, I was somewhat angry and respectfully replied that I couldn't. She bid me farewell. I was stunned. Only a 50 dollar difference.
https://members.seeking.com/member/ccaffa51-4262-4b6f-ad2b-f412c0e6ad2fYou could have heated your home for the duration of this extreme tsunami Cali is going thru.
Seriously, I wouldn't pay $120 for that. Lots of better alternatives at the AMPs.
SteveTandberg
02-26-23, 21:47
I proposed three-fifty dollars; she asked if I could do 4, and even though I could, I was somewhat angry and respectfully replied that I couldn't. She bid me farewell. I was stunned. Only a 50 dollar difference.
https://members.seeking.com/member/ccaffa51-4262-4b6f-ad2b-f412c0e6ad2fWith all due respect, you'd pay $350?
Smh. Different strokes. If she came up to me in a bar and said for free, I'd have to say no bc I know there's 0% chance I could get it up for her.
HollywoodGuy
02-26-23, 22:05
I proposed three-fifty dollars; she asked if I could do 4, and even though I could, I was somewhat angry and respectfully replied that I couldn't. She bid me farewell. I was stunned. Only a 50 dollar difference.
https://members.seeking.com/member/ccaffa51-4262-4b6f-ad2b-f412c0e6ad2fPlease spend some more time looking around. I am sure you will find something more to your liking at a better price / value. Never be in a hurry when shopping on seeking. Get a dozen proposals and then compare. The longer you are at this the easier it gets to say no. Although this one was a no brainer.
This girl may have very high self esteem which was instilled in her by her parents, peers, etc. or have all her bills paid with a good job. But you would be amazed at the simply awesome looking girls with less confidence in their looks or that are more financially in need that will say yes to a very reasonable offer.
Also get used to being rejected if you are watching your budget. It's really no big deal at all, especially if you do all your negotiating online.
Uncountable
02-27-23, 00:06
Please spend some more time looking around. I am sure you will find something more to your liking at a better price / value. Never be in a hurry when shopping on seeking. Get a dozen proposals and then compare. The longer you are at this the easier it gets to say no. Although this one was a no brainer.
This girl may have very high self esteem which was instilled in her by her parents, peers, etc. or have all her bills paid with a good job. But you would be amazed at the simply awesome looking girls with less confidence in their looks or that are more financially in need that will say yes to a very reasonable offer.
Also get used to being rejected if you are watching your budget. It's really no big deal at all, especially if you do all your negotiating online.Thanks, I will keep looking. However, I tend not to do my negotiating online, but these women are hitting me with the "can you do this amount? Or "what's in it for me?" lines. I normally schedule a meet-up and then go from there.
Uncountable
02-27-23, 00:18
With all due respect, you'd pay $350?
Smh. Different strokes. If she came up to me in a bar and said for free, I'd have to say no bc I know there's 0% chance I could get it up for her.I am actually embarrassed to say that I would. It seems Hollywood guy read my situation correctly: I simply got desperate. So many of these ladies have been quoting gargantuan prices, and I have been blocked when I offered even 500 to some pretty women. I am a bit above average looking and take good care of myself, and this past week was the very first time my offer of 5 bills was turned down. I usually get overnight for that price.
SeanTime53
02-27-23, 07:03
Experienced the same problem with multiple prepaid failed attempts. Would love to hear what the new anonymous payment methods are.
Well I got 20% code from Google, but trying to figure how to to pay. Tried the Vanilla and OneVanilla cards both got declined, I think because the site bills from international IP? I remember they used to work before. How are you guys signing up for premium anonymously?
SukijoSeiwaka
02-27-23, 12:02
Do any of you guys even upload this? This seems like to much energy and ID rather be as anonymous as possible.
To avoid getting too personally connected. I'm new to the SD scene but, I'm factoring.
Whether this avenue is worth it.
It just seems like dating which, I'm actually very good at hooking up for free. I prefer.
To pay to avoid the girl feeling bad since I typically want only sex.
Citrus1999
02-28-23, 18:04
Experienced the same problem with multiple prepaid failed attempts. Would love to hear what the new anonymous payment methods are.Here's 33% off code for you guys VWO33 RBELT1.
I'm having a hard time finding the OneVanilla cards. Still hunting for one. Been looking at CVS / Riteaid and they only have Vanilla in stock (they don't work).
FirstClass1
02-28-23, 22:49
While I've tried sugaring and hooking up in all kinds of platforms, I would have to say that the biggest wastes of time are mainstream dating platforms.
Plenty of fish's search engine forces 50-60 year old divorced and knocked up goblins upon you, even when you refine the search for fresh 18-25 year old. When I emailed their help center regarding this, they said that they only allow people to date within their age group. GTFOH with that woke garbage.
There's moments where life just gifts you one. Currently met with ab Asian woman from Canada, ppm is minimal for someone as attractive as she is and you just got to assume there's something. Met a few times as she's only been here for a week but man she's got a vacuum for a mouth and a great bubble butt. SA can genuinely be giving I'd you're persistent, I've had my fair pf really good situations with little to no financial benefit.
AGuyInSocal
03-02-23, 00:31
Curious what that runs you ppm and how often?
There's moments where life just gifts you one. Currently met with ab Asian woman from Canada, ppm is minimal for someone as attractive as she is and you just got to assume there's something. Met a few times as she's only been here for a week but man she's got a vacuum for a mouth and a great bubble butt. SA can genuinely be giving I'd you're persistent, I've had my fair pf really good situations with little to no financial benefit..
Here's 33% off code for you guys VWO33 RBELT1.
I'm having a hard time finding the OneVanilla cards. Still hunting for one. Been looking at CVS / Riteaid and they only have Vanilla in stock (they don't work).I've been using the Serve cards and they work fine. The last Vanilla card I used last year was shit. I called and they told me it's because they don't process "escort sites".
HollywoodGuy
03-02-23, 02:31
While I've tried sugaring and hooking up in all kinds of platforms, I would have to say that the biggest wastes of time are mainstream dating platforms.
Plenty of fish's search engine forces 50-60 year old divorced and knocked up goblins upon you, even when you refine the search for fresh 18-25 year old. When I emailed their help center regarding this, they said that they only allow people to date within their age group. GTFOH with that woke garbage.The only way (not that's its worth your time) to meet 18-25 is to use a much lower fake age and then tell the girl your real age once messaging. They can tell from your pic you are not 27. Met a few girls on there but they were all pretty ratchet.
I've been using the Serve cards and they work fine. The last Vanilla card I used last year was shit. I called and they told me it's because they don't process "escort sites".That's surprising. Aren't Serve cards Amex? I was under the impression seeking didn't take Amex. Or rather that Amex won't process charges to seeking.
That's surprising. Aren't Serve cards Amex? I was under the impression seeking didn't take Amex. Or rather that Amex won't process charges to seeking.SA takes AX just fine. I have no problem with it.
Curious what that runs you ppm and how often?
.Honestly it's always depending. When I first started I went through phases where I shelled out a ton and I've had dates / experiences where there was no exchange. Have had some relationships where there wasn't any monetary exchange.
Currently it really just depends on the persons situation and my relationship with them but usually after drinks / dinner and some time alone I just provide them with 2-3. Only once did they make a big deal about it as we never discussed it before our date. While there have been times were there's no communication after I'd say 50-60% of the time I would see them for a few more months.
At the moment I have a spinner middle eastern / European 5'2 SB now lives with me 3-4 days of the week where we started off traditionally me providing support. She ended up getting a job where she had to split time in Cali and HTX. We got along well enough where she now stays in one of my extra bedrooms and we still fuck every night she's here.
But because of my relationship with her I lost out on another SB who wanted to date more traditionally but her "demands" were that my "friend / old SB who lives with me, had to move out. Tough too because she looked like Charly Jordan and so I had to cut it off and ended up going back on to test my luck.
The Asian girl I'm currently seeing only wanted 150 after we had some drinks and food. Which is surprising considering most Asian woman on the site are the typically some of the most demanding. I'll ride this out for as long as possible because she's easily one of the more attractive women I've met with on the site.
I don't see this any differently than my experiences in Tinder / Bumble / Hinge which I still use. Only difference is even if you're attractive, on those sites you have more competition. SA you're not competing with much.
PleasantOnSun
03-03-23, 23:40
Honestly it's always depending. When I first started I went through phases where I shelled out a ton and I've had dates / experiences where there was no exchange. Have had some relationships where there wasn't any monetary exchange.
Currently it really just depends on the persons situation and my relationship with them but usually after drinks / dinner and some time alone I just provide them with 2-3. Only once did they make a big deal about it as we never discussed it before our date. While there have been times were there's no communication after I'd say 50-60% of the time I would see them for a few more months.
At the moment I have a spinner middle eastern / European 5'2 SB now lives with me 3-4 days of the week where we started off traditionally me providing support. She ended up getting a job where she had to split time in Cali and HTX. We got along well enough where she now stays in one of my extra bedrooms and we still fuck every night she's here.
But because of my relationship with her I lost out on another SB who wanted to date more traditionally but her "demands" were that my "friend / old SB who lives with me, had to move out. Tough too because she looked like Charly Jordan and so I had to cut it off and ended up going back on to test my luck.
The Asian girl I'm currently seeing only wanted 150 after we had some drinks and food. Which is surprising considering most Asian woman on the site are the typically some of the most demanding. I'll ride this out for as long as possible because she's easily one of the more attractive women I've met with on the site.
I don't see this any differently than my experiences in Tinder / Bumble / Hinge which I still use. Only difference is even if you're attractive, on those sites you have more competition. SA you're not competing with much.I definitely agree to this. I am fairly good looking and 80% of the girls who I meet on date make out with me and say. No discussion on money. Just food and I go give them gas money if they come from far, out of my will completely. When I started I shelled out money everytime. Now I have couple of girls regular, means meeting almost everyday, more like a friend, no money discussed. Actually, I am at point, that it's enough for me. Very interesting.
All I can say invest time in yourself and approach girls confidently, it's a game changer. Also, treat them respectfully, I mean not all girls you can have invest some time and learn how to catch that kind of fish.
ShowMeHow23
03-04-23, 17:47
2 wks into work in London and I've got 2 SB's that are smoking hot. Best I've had compared to what I've had in LA. Pricey, as they're 500 compared to the $ so kinda killer on that, but smoking hot New Zealander and Swedish British girl. Quality here is insane.
That's surprising. Aren't Serve cards Amex? I was under the impression seeking didn't take Amex. Or rather that Amex won't process charges to seeking.Serve has both, I've used Visa and AM just fine. The current sub is under an AX card.
HollywoodGuy
03-05-23, 02:54
Honestly it's always depending. When I first started I went through phases where I shelled out a ton and I've had dates / experiences where there was no exchange. Have had some relationships where there wasn't any monetary exchange.
Currently it really just depends on the persons situation and my relationship with them but usually after drinks / dinner and some time alone I just provide them with 2-3. Only once did they make a big deal about it as we never discussed it before our date. While there have been times were there's no communication after I'd say 50-60% of the time I would see them for a few more months.
At the moment I have a spinner middle eastern / European 5'2 SB now lives with me 3-4 days of the week where we started off traditionally me providing support. She ended up getting a job where she had to split time in Cali and HTX. We got along well enough where she now stays in one of my extra bedrooms and we still fuck every night she's here.
But because of my relationship with her I lost out on another SB who wanted to date more traditionally but her "demands" were that my "friend / old SB who lives with me, had to move out. Tough too because she looked like Charly Jordan and so I had to cut it off and ended up going back on to test my luck.
The Asian girl I'm currently seeing only wanted 150 after we had some drinks and food. Which is surprising considering most Asian woman on the site are the typically some of the most demanding. I'll ride this out for as long as possible because she's easily one of the more attractive women I've met with on the site.
I don't see this any differently than my experiences in Tinder / Bumble / Hinge which I still use. Only difference is even if you're attractive, on those sites you have more competition. SA you're not competing with much.I don't shell out a lot, but when you are close to 70 and only date 18-22 you will be expected to spend some money. I have a civi GF rn that is 22 and I probably spend the same on her as a SB. Met her on tiktok. Which btw has a shit ton of SB's (and escorts, street hoes, and every other type of pay to play girl) or just girls looking for older guys that they know will spend more than a 25 y.o.
I don't shell out a lot, but when you are close to 70 and only date 18-22 you will be expected to spend some money. I have a civi GF rn that is 22 and I probably spend the same on her as a SB. Met her on tiktok. Which btw has a shit ton of SB's (and escorts, street hoes, and every other type of pay to play girl) or just girls looking for older guys that they know will spend more than a 25 y.o.Been hearing a lot about tik tok girls. Is there a certain term to search or approach to this?
I've tried looking for SBs on TikTok and haven't been able to locate any.
Been hearing a lot about tik tok girls. Is there a certain term to search or approach to this?
HollywoodGuy
03-05-23, 16:04
I've tried looking for SBs on TikTok and haven't been able to locate any.Make a profile that has a leading user name. Like LosAngelesDaddy or not. Then just start scrolling the videos that hit your FYP. Once you see a girl that is your type, follow her and like maybe 3 of her videos. Leave a brief comment like you look amazing or love your outfit. Try to leave your comments on posts that have as few comments as possible so it gets noticed.
Only follow girls that are right in your demographic. Do this until you are following at least 100 girls. BTW you do not need to leave any content of your own. At the bottom of most of the videos you will see a hashtag # that will say something like #asiangirls or #yogagirls or #prettyblackgirls. Search that and find some more girls in your demographic.
At this point tiktok will recognize your preferences and start delivering more similar content to your FYP. If you get sidetracked and start watching a lot of videos about politics or food you will also start seeing more of those videos. Have a real pic or at least one that shows you are older.
Girls will start to follow you back. You can only DM girls that follow you back. Never ask a girl to follow you, this is considered lame. You can add some text to your profile that may give a hint of your intentions. Just add a little. Sometimes random people will leave a comment on your comment. Never reply to those. In fact I don't even read mine (unless it is the creator). But if it is a hot girl I will start to like a few more of her videos. But never like more than 3 at a time. Doing that is like love bombing and also considered simping. Which may or may not work for you. I advise against it.
If a girl really wants to talk to you she will follow you and then DM you. Or you can DM her once she starts following. Also you will get a ton of bots and scammers following you even if you have no content posted. Remove all the followers that do not meet your demographic. Mostly the DM's will start out very brief like hi or how are you or where are you located. Then just go from there.
The girl I am seeing now and who is officially my GF lives in another state. I flew her in for a 3 day weekend after about 2 months of txting and some facetime. It just happened to go really well. But she is in my demographic and we are a personality match on a deep level. I will be seeing her again later this month. This particular girl is not an SB (although she told me she has only dated older guys since she was 17). She has a good job and is still in school. She even offered to pay for her next ticket (which I declined). Aside from the ticket, some meals and a sexy outfit I got in advance on shein to fuck her in, no other money was spent.
One of the downsides is that many times they will not be in your area. But right now I am messaging with a girl in vegas. The investment in time is a lot. So if that's not on your agenda this will never work for you. Admittedly I got lucky, but i put in the work. I was not on there looking to meet girls but as I gained experience I could see the potential. Girls in the 18-28 range meet most of their dates on social media these days. So for them it is pretty natural. And I have turned down more than a few pro SB's as well. Mostly because they were not in my area.
Serve has both, I've used Visa and AM just fine. The current sub is under an AX card.To register a serve AmEx card is it necessary to provide a SS#, real name, etc. So one can use it at SA? If that was the case at least for me it wouldn't work since my SO is pretty nosy LOL and tech savvy. Hence why I always stuck with prepaid vanilla cards. But as we all know they don't work any more on SA.
I've been researching for the last couple weeks another alternative cards to use but not much info available unfortunately and I still have a one vanilla card that I purchased 6 months ago so upgrade my SA, so I don't want to purchase more if they aren't working on SA.
On a side note for whoever might be considering the route I wanted to take, which was using the android SA app and pay through google play. I think it's possible but don't do what I did, which was purchasing a good play card from target store and trying to put money on my google account just to find out that this A**holes won't load the card money into my google play account and they requested more info about my card and place of purchase, etc. Digging into the matter if appears like I've been scammed by google with their BS google card and nothing I can do about it. They said it would take months for their investigation blah blah blah.
So if anyone decides to use google play to pay SA membership Don't buy their cards its all a scam.
You sure about this?
There is a difference between Vanilla Visa and OneVanilla Visa. They both exist. I used One Vanilla for SA about 3 weeks ago for my current sun and it worked fine.
To register a serve AmEx card is it necessary to provide a SS#, real name, etc. So one can use it at SA? If that was the case at least for me it wouldn't work since my SO is pretty nosy LOL and tech savvy. Hence why I always stuck with prepaid vanilla cards. But as we all know they don't work any more on SA.
I've been researching for the last couple weeks another alternative cards to use but not much info available unfortunately and I still have a one vanilla card that I purchased 6 months ago so upgrade my SA, so I don't want to purchase more if they aren't working on SA.
On a side note for whoever might be considering the route I wanted to take, which was using the android SA app and pay through google play. I think it's possible but don't do what I did, which was purchasing a good play card from target store and trying to put money on my google account just to find out that this A**holes won't load the card money into my google play account and they requested more info about my card and place of purchase, etc. Digging into the matter if appears like I've been scammed by google with their BS google card and nothing I can do about it. They said it would take months for their investigation blah blah blah.
So if anyone decides to use google play to pay SA membership Don't buy their cards its all a scam.
To register a serve AmEx card is it necessary to provide a SS#, real name, etc. So one can use it at SA? If that was the case at least for me it wouldn't work since my SO is pretty nosy LOL and tech savvy. Hence why I always stuck with prepaid vanilla cards. But as we all know they don't work any more on SA.
I've been researching for the last couple weeks another alternative cards to use but not much info available unfortunately and I still have a one vanilla card that I purchased 6 months ago so upgrade my SA, so I don't want to purchase more if they aren't working on SA.
On a side note for whoever might be considering the route I wanted to take, which was using the android SA app and pay through google play. I think it's possible but don't do what I did, which was purchasing a good play card from target store and trying to put money on my google account just to find out that this A**holes won't load the card money into my google play account and they requested more info about my card and place of purchase, etc. Digging into the matter if appears like I've been scammed by google with their BS google card and nothing I can do about it. They said it would take months for their investigation blah blah blah.
So if anyone decides to use google play to pay SA membership Don't buy their cards its all a scam.You don't have to register it. The only reason to do that is to reload which I never do. The website explains the benefits of reloading but it also says the card is ready to use soon as it's activated at purchase.
Have to ask a question and I can't believe I'm going to ask it.
Working on a cute 18 in LA. Girl says she's gotten burned before by showing up to a date and a guy not paying. So to make sure there's at least some money changing hands, she insists on sending cash via Cash app in exchange for photos and then wiling to meet.
This is obviously against my better judgment. I know the obvious answer is to not send anything before meeting. But it's only 50 bucks. My bigger concern is whether this is a front for some sort of insidious scam. Like this is the first part of a catphishing or something. I can lose the 50 bucks. But I don't want to end up on a newspaper.
Anyone know?
Have to ask a question and I can't believe I'm going to ask it.
Working on a cute 18 in LA. Girl says she's gotten burned before by showing up to a date and a guy not paying. So to make sure there's at least some money changing hands, she insists on sending cash via Cash app in exchange for photos and then wiling to meet.
This is obviously against my better judgment. I know the obvious answer is to not send anything before meeting. But it's only 50 bucks. My bigger concern is whether this is a front for some sort of insidious scam. Like this is the first part of a catphishing or something. I can lose the 50 bucks. But I don't want to end up on a newspaper.
Anyone know?If you have to ask, then it's a scam.
You will send her 'just' $50. No harm no foul if you lose that insignificant amount. And then she will move on to the next sappy guy, with the same sappy story. And before you know it, the simp army will have paid his / her rent for the month.
Please don't fall for this. Please!
KathmanDouche
03-08-23, 20:05
Have to ask a question and I can't believe I'm going to ask it.
Working on a cute 18 in LA. Girl says she's gotten burned before by showing up to a date and a guy not paying. So to make sure there's at least some money changing hands, she insists on sending cash via Cash app in exchange for photos and then wiling to meet.
This is obviously against my better judgment. I know the obvious answer is to not send anything before meeting. But it's only 50 bucks. My bigger concern is whether this is a front for some sort of insidious scam. Like this is the first part of a catphishing or something. I can lose the 50 bucks. But I don't want to end up on a newspaper.
Anyone know?Jerk off then think about it again. Never send any money. It is a scam. Requires only messaging back and forth on their end to get money. I like to fuck with them and ask a bunch of questions to drag them along and promise to send money and then keep dragging it on. If they are ripping people off, the least you can do is waste their time.
Thank you for knocking some sense into me. Point taken. I just hit the abort button on that.
HollywoodGuy
03-08-23, 22:51
Have to ask a question and I can't believe I'm going to ask it.
Working on a cute 18 in LA. Girl says she's gotten burned before by showing up to a date and a guy not paying. So to make sure there's at least some money changing hands, she insists on sending cash via Cash app in exchange for photos and then wiling to meet.
This is obviously against my better judgment. I know the obvious answer is to not send anything before meeting. But it's only 50 bucks. My bigger concern is whether this is a front for some sort of insidious scam. Like this is the first part of a catphishing or something. I can lose the 50 bucks. But I don't want to end up on a newspaper.
Anyone know?Once every year or two I send some girl 50 just to re-remind myself that it's always a scam, and it always is.
Once every year or two I send some girl 50 just to re-remind myself that it's always a scam, and it always is.Yeah. That sounds right. This just can't be real. Thanks.
....I like to fuck with them and ask a bunch of questions to drag them along and promise to send money and then keep dragging it on. If they are ripping people off, the least you can do is waste their time.I do the same thing and try to have fun with it. I'll tell them I sent it, and they get so excited. They'll text back maybe 10 minutes later asking if I sent it, and I'll pretend like I forgot, but 'promise' to send it right now, or fake like I did send it but sent it to the wrong person, oh no! I never send anything of course. I just stall, drag it out, delay, and lie to them when it comes to sending money.
I also block their profile before leading them on so that they don't report my profile out of revenge.
I do the same thing and try to have fun with it. I'll tell them I sent it, and they get so excited. They'll text back maybe 10 minutes later asking if I sent it, and I'll pretend like I forgot, but 'promise' to send it right now, or fake like I did send it but sent it to the wrong person, oh no! I never send anything of course. I just stall, drag it out, delay, and lie to them when it comes to sending money.
I also block their profile before leading them on so that they don't report my profile out of revenge.I appreciate the feedback. But let me address your approach.
I don't think it's a good idea. Not for moral reasons, but purely strategic and logistical ones. Seeking is kind of the only game in town. There are other sites, but they are the poor man's version. Everything I have read about the site suggests that they play the roles of Judge, jury, and executioner clumsily and hastily. They cancel quickly, with limited info, and it's up to you to appeal. I've seen a response to an appeal letter posted by some guy, I think here, that says our decision is final, and we will not respond to any more emails. Done.
It's really in your best interest to part ways cordially when things don't work. You don't know these girls. You don't know that they're not going to email seeking some complaint. Because they are wired wrong and are vengeful people. It's just not worth it.
I did text that 18 year old by the way. I very nicely explained that I'm sure she's a wonderful person and I appreciate the discussion so far, but I'm just not comfortable sending cash to somebody I have not met, and I wish her all the best luck. I stand behind this approach.
FarFarAway
03-09-23, 21:12
I appreciate the feedback. But let me address your approach.
I don't think it's a good idea. Not for moral reasons, but purely strategic and logistical ones. Seeking is kind of the only game in town. There are other sites, but they are the poor man's version. Everything I have read about the site suggests that they play the roles of Judge, jury, and executioner clumsily and hastily. They cancel quickly, with limited info, and it's up to you to appeal. I've seen a response to an appeal letter posted by some guy, I think here, that says our decision is final, and we will not respond to any more emails. Done.
It's really in your best interest to part ways cordially when things don't work. You don't know these girls. You don't know that they're not going to email seeking some complaint. Because they are wired wrong and are vengeful people. It's just not worth it.
I did text that 18 year old by the way. I very nicely explained that I'm sure she's a wonderful person and I appreciate the discussion so far, but I'm just not comfortable sending cash to somebody I have not met, and I wish her all the best luck. I stand behind this approach.If you want to entice a girl, here is a way to do it with less risk of $ and zero risk of exposure, such as via CashApp. Just get a gift card of some sort and take a photo of it w / your burner phone. A $20 Starbucks card 'proves' you are real as much as $50. If this isn't something she will agree to, it shows she is a scammer not a serious SB.
HollywoodGuy
03-10-23, 03:08
I do the same thing and try to have fun with it. I'll tell them I sent it, and they get so excited. They'll text back maybe 10 minutes later asking if I sent it, and I'll pretend like I forgot, but 'promise' to send it right now, or fake like I did send it but sent it to the wrong person, oh no! I never send anything of course. I just stall, drag it out, delay, and lie to them when it comes to sending money.
I also block their profile before leading them on so that they don't report my profile out of revenge.Wouldn't your time be better spent looking for some good pussy? Never let any girl press your buttons. For me anything that isn't getting me closer to cash, pussy, a great meal or enriching my mind just isn't worth my time.
Wouldn't your time be better spent looking for some good pussy? Never let any girl press your buttons. For me anything that isn't getting me closer to cash, pussy, a great meal or enriching my mind just isn't worth my time.They aren't pressing my buttons. I'm just having some fun with the scammers is all. A few texts during my work day is all the time it takes.
HollywoodGuy
03-10-23, 17:32
They aren't pressing my buttons. I'm just having some fun with the scammers is all. A few texts during my work day is all the time it takes.I had a scammer today. Just blocked her as soon as I realized she was FOS.
I had a scammer today. Just blocked her as soon as I realized she was FOS.I like how you handled that. It seems we both do what works best for ourselves.
HollywoodGuy
03-12-23, 21:28
Don't you just love the ones that view you, favorite you and message you?
Serve has both, I've used Visa and AM just fine. The current sub is under an AX card.So what cards work for SA? Vanilla was not working for me in November.
So what cards work for SA? Vanilla was not working for me in November.I read that Serve Amex does but I have not tried it myself.
FarFarAway
03-14-23, 17:05
I need brainstorms about discrete ways to get my phone back. I was in Vegas and had a date w / a girl. I found after that I didn't have my burner phone. Initially she said she looked for it in her car without success, after I get back to OC, she texts me that she cleaned out her car and found it. She offered to mail it to me, I said that wasn't really going to work, as my SO would wonder about this thing appearing in our mail. I would like brilliant ideas for how I could get it sent to me without giving up my real name / address to her. I used to have mailbox rentals, I guess those still exist, but I haven't had one in a long time, and there is cost to that, as well as risk of discovery. The fact that I had a mail drop would be *hugely* suspicious to the SO.
I could replace the phone, but it would be better to have the SIM card out of the old one, I use TracFone, I love the service, it is ideal for my use.
Hey, HG, perhaps you could be my courier? You go from Vegas to LA, right? LOL.
Omfgitzjin
03-14-23, 20:58
I need brainstorms about discrete ways to get my phone back. I was in Vegas and had a date w / a girl. I found after that I didn't have my burner phone. Initially she said she looked for it in her car without success, after I get back to OC, she texts me that she cleaned out her car and found it. She offered to mail it to me, I said that wasn't really going to work, as my SO would wonder about this thing appearing in our mail. I would like brilliant ideas for how I could get it sent to me without giving up my real name / address to her. I used to have mailbox rentals, I guess those still exist, but I haven't had one in a long time, and there is cost to that, as well as risk of discovery. The fact that I had a mail drop would be *hugely* suspicious to the SO.
I could replace the phone, but it would be better to have the SIM card out of the old one, I use TracFone, I love the service, it is ideal for my use.
Hey, HG, perhaps you could be my courier? You go from Vegas to LA, right? LOL.I'm coming back from vegas April 1st. Zelle your friend some money and ill go on a date with her for a night and ill bring back your phone =).
HollywoodGuy
03-14-23, 21:40
I need brainstorms about discrete ways to get my phone back. I was in Vegas and had a date w / a girl. I found after that I didn't have my burner phone. Initially she said she looked for it in her car without success, after I get back to OC, she texts me that she cleaned out her car and found it. She offered to mail it to me, I said that wasn't really going to work, as my SO would wonder about this thing appearing in our mail. I would like brilliant ideas for how I could get it sent to me without giving up my real name / address to her. I used to have mailbox rentals, I guess those still exist, but I haven't had one in a long time, and there is cost to that, as well as risk of discovery. The fact that I had a mail drop would be *hugely* suspicious to the SO.
I could replace the phone, but it would be better to have the SIM card out of the old one, I use TracFone, I love the service, it is ideal for my use.
Hey, HG, perhaps you could be my courier? You go from Vegas to LA, right? LOL.Just have her send it to friend of yours. Like anybody? And I was going to L.A. quite a bit. But lost my last apartment and can not afford to pay rent in both places anymore (short of a miracle). Or she could mail it to me and then me to you. ? or just get it from her in vegas.. not a big deal if she is willing to meet? vegas is a smallish place to drive around
I need brainstorms about discrete ways to get my phone back. I was in Vegas and had a date w / a girl. I found after that I didn't have my burner phone. Initially she said she looked for it in her car without success, after I get back to OC, she texts me that she cleaned out her car and found it. She offered to mail it to me, I said that wasn't really going to work, as my SO would wonder about this thing appearing in our mail. I would like brilliant ideas for how I could get it sent to me without giving up my real name / address to her. I used to have mailbox rentals, I guess those still exist, but I haven't had one in a long time, and there is cost to that, as well as risk of discovery. The fact that I had a mail drop would be *hugely* suspicious to the SO.
I could replace the phone, but it would be better to have the SIM card out of the old one, I use TracFone, I love the service, it is ideal for my use.
Hey, HG, perhaps you could be my courier? You go from Vegas to LA, right? LOL.Try the FEDEx pickup option. Have her send it to a location near you and you simply pick it up from them. They will hold it for I think seven days.
FarFarAway
03-15-23, 01:29
Try the FEDEx pickup option. Have her send it to a location near you and you simply pick it up from them. They will hold it for I think seven days.But I have to give my real name for that, right? I have a SO, that is dumb.
I need brainstorms about discrete ways to get my phone back. I was in Vegas and had a date w / a girl. I found after that I didn't have my burner phone. Initially she said she looked for it in her car without success, after I get back to OC, she texts me that she cleaned out her car and found it. She offered to mail it to me, I said that wasn't really going to work, as my SO would wonder about this thing appearing in our mail. I would like brilliant ideas for how I could get it sent to me without giving up my real name / address to her. I used to have mailbox rentals, I guess those still exist, but I haven't had one in a long time, and there is cost to that, as well as risk of discovery. The fact that I had a mail drop would be *hugely* suspicious to the SO.
I could replace the phone, but it would be better to have the SIM card out of the old one, I use TracFone, I love the service, it is ideal for my use.
Hey, HG, perhaps you could be my courier? You go from Vegas to LA, right? LOL.Send her the money and have her FedEx it to your place but with a different name. Send it to Peter Johnson (hehehe irony) at XYZ Inc or something. If your wife happens to intercept it it looks like it was just sent to the wrong address. You can valiantly say you'll take it to FedEx to return to sender and then just pocket it.
Time to reup my sub! Latest chatter was that maybe vanilla visa didn't work anymore? Anyone have luck with other cards lately? I heard serve Amex works with no problem maybe?
ThePoonHound
03-16-23, 12:06
Anyone else have decent luck on tinder and want to trade? SA is way too pricey and the girls are crazy entitled.
A few of you have PM'd me about this so I'll post for the broader audience. I never register it them. I put just enough to cover the sub and throw the empty card away.
https://www.serve.com/faqs/get-started/use-the-temporary-serve-card
"What can I do with my temporary Serve card?
If you purchased a temporary Serve card at a participating retailer, you can start using your temporary card immediately to:
Spend the Available Balance on your temporary Serve card at merchants in the USA At store locations, online and over the phone:
Serve American Express Reloadable Prepaid Cards can be used virtually anywhere American Express Cards are accepted.
The Serve Pay As You Go Visa Prepaid Card can be used everywhere Visa debit cards are accepted.
Track your temporary Serve card balance and transaction history at serve.com.
Register for a personalized Serve card at serve.com to access the full benefits of the Serve account.
For Serve American Express Reloadable Prepaid Cards, you must activate the personalized Serve card you receive in the mail upon successful online registration to have access to the full benefits of the Serve account.
For the Serve Pay As You Go Visa Prepaid Card, once you successfully complete online registration, you will have access to expanded benefits of the Serve account with your temporary Serve card before you activate the personalized Serve card you receive in the mail. See the Cardholder Agreement for more information. ".
Can I ask: your note says you never register the card, but the copy you pulled from Serve website says you need to complete online registration to use card. So then it does allow you to make a charge on the card without doing an online registration? Or it allows you to do an online registration with fictitious information?
A few of you have PM'd me about this so I'll post for the broader audience. I never register it them. I put just enough to cover the sub and throw the empty card away.
https://www.serve.com/faqs/get-started/use-the-temporary-serve-card
"What can I do with my temporary Serve card?
If you purchased a temporary Serve card at a participating retailer, you can start using your temporary card immediately to:
Spend the Available Balance on your temporary Serve card at merchants in the USA At store locations, online and over the phone:
Serve American Express Reloadable Prepaid Cards can be used virtually anywhere American Express Cards are accepted.
The Serve Pay As You Go Visa Prepaid Card can be used everywhere Visa debit cards are accepted.
Track your temporary Serve card balance and transaction history at serve.com.
Register for a personalized Serve card at serve.com to access the full benefits of the Serve account.
For Serve American Express Reloadable Prepaid Cards, you must activate the personalized Serve card you receive in the mail upon successful online registration to have access to the full benefits of the Serve account.
For the Serve Pay As You Go Visa Prepaid Card, once you successfully complete online registration, you will have access to expanded benefits of the Serve account with your temporary Serve card before you activate the personalized Serve card you receive in the mail. See the Cardholder Agreement for more information. ".
Can I ask: your note says you never register the card, but the copy you pulled from Serve website says you need to complete online registration to use card. So then it does allow you to make a charge on the card without doing an online registration? Or it allows you to do an online registration with fictitious information?
You need to register to reload it.
"If you purchased a temporary Serve card at a participating retailer, you can start using your temporary card immediately to:"
You need to register to reload it.
"If you purchased a temporary Serve card at a participating retailer, you can start using your temporary card immediately to:"Sorry to make you the faq guy but seems like you actually know what you're talking about.
To register must you register using your personal info like ssn or real name and address? Or is it like registering on this site, where you just provide some data but it's not verifiable?
Sorry to make you the faq guy but seems like you actually know what you're talking about.
To register must you register using your personal info like ssn or real name and address? Or is it like registering on this site, where you just provide some data but it's not verifiable?" I never register it them. I put just enough to cover the sub and throw the empty card away. "
There's no need to register. Again, the only reason to register is to reload it. Why bother when the card costs a few bucks.
SteveTandberg
03-18-23, 10:54
Met this Latina MILF on seeking. Cute, fun, passionate. Very open minded. I got my fill.
Probably get 1 or 2 fun dates before you lay out the sugar.
Will trade for another cute SB that is reasonable, $400 or under PPM.
DM.
Anyone else have decent luck on tinder and want to trade? SA is way too pricey and the girls are crazy entitled.Curious about this also, about to join soon and see what can be found.
HollywoodGuy
03-19-23, 12:05
Curious about this also, about to join soon and see what can be found.My new GF (not an SB) I found on tiktok. Tons of girls there of all types.
HollywoodGuy
03-19-23, 15:33
https://members.seeking.com/member/673f2118-586f-4c7c-b3a1-577b9434d132
HER - "going to be in vegas til March 30, but visit vegas pretty often, since it's so close to LA. Always down for mutual beneficial activities".
ME - "so what is your allowance for an hour or more of your time"?
HER - "I'm comfortable with 800, without any rush".
SteveTandberg
03-20-23, 17:00
So, I've been texting with a young lady I met on Seeking. Has an upstate NY #, but claims she lives in NorCal. She sent me a photo showing she is legit (asked her to send me a photo holding up 2 fingers and she sent me one.). Any suggestions on verifying she is actually from NorCal and not from Venezuela or some other country? Reason for asking is her English is definitely not that great.
Thanks.
Steve.
HollywoodGuy
03-20-23, 22:13
So, I've been texting with a young lady I met on Seeking. Has an upstate NY #, but claims she lives in NorCal. She sent me a photo showing she is legit (asked her to send me a photo holding up 2 fingers and she sent me one.). Any suggestions on verifying she is actually from NorCal and not from Venezuela or some other country? Reason for asking is her English is definitely not that great.
Thanks.
Steve.Their profile always says what country they are logging in from near the top right below their pic.
Their profile always says what country they are logging in from near the top right below their pic.Few months ago saw stunner on LA SA. Young redhead, 19, super hot. Messaged her and to my delight got a message back.
The neurotic part of me thought "cmon, can this be real?" So I messaged her and said I want to make sure she's real and can she take a photo of herself open up four fingers. And she did.
But. Big but.
I noticed in her background some photos. I zoomed in on them. The language on t shirts was in Russian. So I wrote back and asked, just to be clear what country do you live in?
Poland.
Poland?? I said you know you're listed as LA and LA is far from Poland right?
Oh honey but I'm good to travel and blah blah. This had scam written all over it.
Seemed too good to be true. Because it was.
NutritionFacts
03-21-23, 14:10
Its been a while and I am getting back into it, any tips or game for how SA is now? I was back on in the 2015-2019 era and it seemed better / easier than now. My profile would be sought out and now its not LOL.
HollywoodGuy
03-21-23, 23:28
Their profile always says what country they are logging in from near the top right below their pic.I mean the top left.
I mean the top left.A plus for your contribution today.
FarFarAway
03-22-23, 19:25
This girl and I have been messaging. She sent me this photo as well as a whole slew of others. Smoking. I have reverse image searched all of them, no hits. However, she asked me to send $, which is a red flag. I did phone her, the connection was bad, but did briefly hear her voice. It did sound foreign (but she says she is from a state other than California).
What do you think?
UltraCreamy
03-22-23, 21:13
This girl and I have been messaging. She sent me this photo as well as a whole slew of others. Smoking. I have reverse image searched all of them, no hits. However, she asked me to send $, which is a red flag. I did phone her, the connection was bad, but did briefly hear her voice. It did sound foreign (but she says she is from a state other than California).
What do you think?Sounds sketch. Ask to meet for coffee.
HollywoodGuy
03-23-23, 00:29
This girl and I have been messaging. She sent me this photo as well as a whole slew of others. Smoking. I have reverse image searched all of them, no hits. However, she asked me to send $, which is a red flag. I did phone her, the connection was bad, but did briefly hear her voice. It did sound foreign (but she says she is from a state other than California).
What do you think?What would ever be a reason to send a girl cash in advance? I can't think of one.
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