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This is a cross post from the Batimore SB forum. If you guys are wondering why so many garbage accounts have been popping up, there are professional rinsers who are coaching young girls how to make easy money without ever meeting:
https://www.tiktok.com/@callikoa/video/6906971371759275270?is_copy_url=1&is_from_webapp=v3
https://www.tiktok.com/@callikoa/video/6906974793422195973?is_copy_url=1&is_from_webapp=v3
https://www.tiktok.com/@callikoa/video/6906977999346732294?is_copy_url=1&is_from_webapp=v3
https://www.instagram.com/callikoaaa/
This hooker coaches her audience how to lead on their marks on why they can't meet, while collecting allowances. This parasite's socials are dripping with all the things she buys and does with simp money, and she is 22 but claims to be 18 in her SB accounts. Her "boyfriend" is happy to pimp her out as she alledgedly "never meets anyone. ".LOL I've gotten this exact script too many times to count, and that was back in like July of last year. So this kind of info must've been circulating for years among SB circles. I find it amusing but also a little dismaying that she (actually?) is able to pull $300 a day from this (if she is in fact not lying), only because that means that there are men desperate / dumb enough to pay for "texts" and "phone calls". We really need a men's union for real.
P.S. Your daily reminder to never send a cent before meeting.
This is a cross post from the Batimore SB forum. If you guys are wondering why so many garbage accounts have been popping up, there are professional rinsers who are coaching young girls how to make easy money without ever meeting:
https://www.tiktok.com/@callikoa/video/6906971371759275270?is_copy_url=1&is_from_webapp=v3
https://www.tiktok.com/@callikoa/video/6906974793422195973?is_copy_url=1&is_from_webapp=v3
https://www.tiktok.com/@callikoa/video/6906977999346732294?is_copy_url=1&is_from_webapp=v3
https://www.instagram.com/callikoaaa/
This hooker coaches her audience how to lead on their marks on why they can't meet, while collecting allowances. This parasite's socials are dripping with all the things she buys and does with simp money, and she is 22 but claims to be 18 in her SB accounts. Her "boyfriend" is happy to pimp her out as she alledgedly "never meets anyone. ".
LOL I've gotten this exact script too many times to count, and that was back in like July of last year. So this kind of info must've been circulating for years among SB circles. I find it amusing but also a little dismaying that she (actually?) is able to pull $300 a day from this (if she is in fact not lying), only because that means that there are men desperate / dumb enough to pay for "texts" and "phone calls". We really need a men's union for real.
P.S. Your daily reminder to never send a cent before meeting.I've gotten lots of pushback in SB forums when I say these chicks laugh at some of the guys. I keep reading how some of these unique flowers are not hookers or bad people. People giving this chick money deserve what they get. No booty.
New guys. Watch these vids as often as necessary to burn it in your brain that it's all about the cash. Never dispense sugar without affection. As in, "sweetie, this dick ain't going to suck itself" levels of appreciation.
ChrisHansen92
03-31-21, 19:57
She has another Daddy like you (probably several). She is going with the higher bidder, younger, better looking, better fuck or all of the above. She cancels because a more lucrative deal is available. Just like many of us do to them.
Tried looking on reddit but can't seem to find the answer I'm looking for. So my current SB kept switching time with in the HR everytime we would meet and I got irritated the last time as it kept happening the last few times. I don't mind if it was change a day before but an hour is not acceptable to me. I cancelled our last meeting. I plan on doing it from now on every time she pulls this off on me. My question is, will she get the message or will this inevitably end the arrangement?
She has another Daddy like you (probably several). She is going with the higher bidder, younger, better looking, better fuck or all of the above. She cancels because a more lucrative deal is available. Just like many of us do to them.This right here. The game is played by both sides.
FarFarAway
04-01-21, 19:16
This is a question for you worthies with SOs. I have a brokerage account with thousands in it that my SO doesn't know about. This is an ideal supply of sugar. The problem is that the broker refuses to just mail out a check I could cash, they only do ACH and wire transfer. I operate my sugar game strictly as a cash deal. I need to figure a way to transfer it somewhere that I can get cash out of it. I have PayPal, both IRL and a sugar account (I got it long ago, so at that time they did not require verification or linking to a bank account). I have had online-only bank accounts before, with ATM / debit cards, but in retrospect that seems too risky for my current situation. I want minimal risk the SO could find out about the $ and it moving around. Once it's cash, I am golden.
This is a question for you worthies with SOs. I have a brokerage account with thousands in it that my SO doesn't know about. This is an ideal supply of sugar. The problem is that the broker refuses to just mail out a check I could cash, they only do ACH and wire transfer. I operate my sugar game strictly as a cash deal. I need to figure a way to transfer it somewhere that I can get cash out of it. I have PayPal, both IRL and a sugar account (I got it long ago, so at that time they did not require verification or linking to a bank account). I have had online-only bank accounts before, with ATM / debit cards, but in retrospect that seems too risky for my current situation. I want minimal risk the SO could find out about the $ and it moving around. Once it's cash, I am golden.Most brokerages can issue you a debit card so you can grab money from that account.
FarFarAway
04-01-21, 23:36
Most brokerages can issue you a debit card so you can grab money from that account.As I said, they only do ACH or wire transfer. It's not your storefront retail broker.
This is a cross post from the Batimore SB forum. If you guys are wondering why so many garbage accounts have been popping up, there are professional rinsers who are coaching young girls how to make easy money without ever meeting ...
This hooker coaches her audience how to lead on their marks on why they can't meet, while collecting allowances ....I haven't quite fallen for this scam yet, but I have fallen for what I call the "good girl" scam. She's a good girl, won't fuck on a first date, but will date you for a nominal fee until she gets to know you. After several dates she's still uncomfortable having sex, and at that point I realize I cannot afford to continue. Too much investment with no return. I've done this with 4 girls in 6 years. Each time, I swear I won't fall for it again, then another super pretty girl comes along. Admittedly, I'm not as good as some of ya'll. However, at least I got to know a "good girl", LOL.
Another scam I'm vulnerable to is the "emergency expense" scam. Something comes up, she's desperate and needs money, via CashApp or similar. I've fallen prey to this too many times to count. Including with my current SB. But I think I've worked that out with her, as I've threatened to quit. I told her she should not treat me like family if we're going to have an anonymous relationship. Actually, my current SB is pretty good; we've been together since May. So, even though she has "scammed" me a few times, I'm happy. And that's the main thing -- achieving happiness and having fun with the SB. She tells me she "loves" me, but that's absurd since we're anonymous. My interpretation is that she likes me enough to continue to be my SB.
FarFarAway
04-02-21, 01:51
Beware "Helen of Troy" (slight modification of this username). You might think this has to do with USC, but no.
This is a question for you worthies with SOs. I have a brokerage account with thousands in it that my SO doesn't know about. This is an ideal supply of sugar. The problem is that the broker refuses to just mail out a check I could cash, they only do ACH and wire transfer. I operate my sugar game strictly as a cash deal. I need to figure a way to transfer it somewhere that I can get cash out of it. I have PayPal, both IRL and a sugar account (I got it long ago, so at that time they did not require verification or linking to a bank account). I have had online-only bank accounts before, with ATM / debit cards, but in retrospect that seems too risky for my current situation. I want minimal risk the SO could find out about the $ and it moving around. Once it's cash, I am golden.Open an account at another bank, and get a mailbox at a UPS store. Have any docs or statements mailed there, and that handles the ACH stuff since you have a bank account. You'll still get a new ATM card to hide. I don't see how that's avoidable unless you want to go into the bank to handle all your transactions.
Levels of risk depend on how careful you are and how closely watched you are by your SO. I've seen guys set their wife's suspicion off by leaving a fucking piece of candy they picked up somewhere in the center console. He'd probably already fucked up somewhere else to have her antennae up.
FarFarAway
04-02-21, 16:07
https://www.seeking.com/member/e087a457-bcab-4715-b62e-762b10ef2934
Or search e087 a457-bcab-4715-b62 e-762 b10 ef2934.
There are lots of these, typically using Asian girls pictures. They may say that she is rich and doesn't want money, sometimes, the country is other than the US. They extol the glories of the woman. After a little messaging, it turns out to be TGTBT.
... her cash, gifts, and free dinners.
"Seeking Arrangements has over 22,000 users that are retired or active duty US military members. The company is making headlines again after the Justice Department filed an investigation on GOP Rep. Matt Gaetz for allegedly using Seeking Arrangements to meet women he paid to have sex with. ".
https://www.yahoo.com/news/sugar-baby-military-veteran-reveals-165900729.html
I haven't quite fallen for this scam yet, but I have fallen for what I call the "good girl" scam. She's a good girl, won't fuck on a first date, but will date you for a nominal fee until she gets to know you. After several dates she's still uncomfortable having sex, and at that point I realize I cannot afford to continue. Too much investment with no return. I've done this with 4 girls in 6 years. Each time, I swear I won't fall for it again, then another super pretty girl comes along. Admittedly, I'm not as good as some of ya'll. However, at least I got to know a "good girl", LOL.
Another scam I'm vulnerable to is the "emergency expense" scam. Something comes up, she's desperate and needs money, via CashApp or similar. I've fallen prey to this too many times to count. Including with my current SB. But I think I've worked that out with her, as I've threatened to quit. I told her she should not treat me like family if we're going to have an anonymous relationship. Actually, my current SB is pretty good; we've been together since May. So, even though she has "scammed" me a few times, I'm happy. And that's the main thing -- achieving happiness and having fun with the SB. She tells me she "loves" me, but that's absurd since we're anonymous. My interpretation is that she likes me enough to continue to be my SB.He says you are a sucker for eternity.
No excuse for your stupidity.
BTW, I have this new challenger to Bitcoin coming out. It's called 'Fool's Gold. ' I'll let you in on the IPO. Just send me $20,000.
He says you are a sucker for eternity.
No excuse for your stupidity.
BTW, I have this new challenger to Bitcoin coming out. It's called 'Fool's Gold. ' I'll let you in on the IPO. Just send me $20,000.
I haven't quite fallen for this scam yet, but I have fallen for what I call the "good girl" scam. She's a good girl, won't fuck on a first date, but will date you for a nominal fee until she gets to know you. After several dates she's still uncomfortable having sex, and at that point I realize I cannot afford to continue. Too much investment with no return. I've done this with 4 girls in 6 years. Each time, I swear I won't fall for it again, then another super pretty girl comes along. Admittedly, I'm not as good as some of ya'll. However, at least I got to know a "good girl", LOL.
Another scam I'm vulnerable to is the "emergency expense" scam. Something comes up, she's desperate and needs money, via CashApp or similar. I've fallen prey to this too many times to count. Including with my current SB. But I think I've worked that out with her, as I've threatened to quit. I told her she should not treat me like family if we're going to have an anonymous relationship. Actually, my current SB is pretty good; we've been together since May. So, even though she has "scammed" me a few times, I'm happy. And that's the main thing -- achieving happiness and having fun with the SB. She tells me she "loves" me, but that's absurd since we're anonymous. My interpretation is that she likes me enough to continue to be my SB.I almost think you must be trolling for some punishment, but hey, it's good to have some verification that someone is falling for these schemes because I've been scratching my head trying to figure out who the fuck would give these chicks money.
Good luck. It sounds like you're going to need it if you don't want to die broke.
Open an account at another bank, and get a mailbox at a UPS store. Have any docs or statements mailed there, and that handles the ACH stuff since you have a bank account. You'll still get a new ATM card to hide. I don't see how that's avoidable unless you want to go into the bank to handle all your transactions.
Levels of risk depend on how careful you are and how closely watched you are by your SO. I've seen guys set their wife's suspicion off by leaving a fucking piece of candy they picked up somewhere in the center console. He'd probably already fucked up somewhere else to have her antennae up.That account will show up on any credit report. Like when you want to refinance or get a loan.
That account will show up on any credit report. Like when you want to refinance or get a loan.Asset accounts don't show up on credit reports unless you include them as collateral on an application.
HollywoodGuy
04-03-21, 12:25
This is a cross post from the Batimore SB forum. If you guys are wondering why so many garbage accounts have been popping up, there are professional rinsers who are coaching young girls how to make easy money without ever meeting:
https://www.tiktok.com/@callikoa/video/6906971371759275270?is_copy_url=1&is_from_webapp=v3
https://www.tiktok.com/@callikoa/video/6906974793422195973?is_copy_url=1&is_from_webapp=v3
https://www.tiktok.com/@callikoa/video/6906977999346732294?is_copy_url=1&is_from_webapp=v3
https://www.instagram.com/callikoaaa/
This hooker coaches her audience how to lead on their marks on why they can't meet, while collecting allowances. This parasite's socials are dripping with all the things she buys and does with simp money, and she is 22 but claims to be 18 in her SB accounts. Her "boyfriend" is happy to pimp her out as she allegedly "never meets anyone. ".No matter how many rinsers, con artists, GPS girls, dreamers, etc. There are on seeking, there are an equal if not greater number of physically, emotionally and financially needy girls looking for some sort of support in exchange for a good time. Sugar dating is a hobby that requires time and dedication to find your groove. But once you do you will never look back.
Due to the complexities of life I have had to bow out of the bowl for a while. But I am looking forward to the day I can re-enter. And happy hunting.
FarFarAway
04-03-21, 12:56
No matter how many rinsers, con artists, GPS girls, dreamers, etc. There are on seeking, there are an equal if not greater number of physically, emotionally and financially needy girls looking for some sort of support in exchange for a good time. Sugar dating is a hobby that requires time and dedication to find your groove. But once you do you will never look back.
Due to the complexities of life I have had to bow out of the bowl for a while. But I am looking forward to the day I can re-enter. And happy hunting.Wishing you all the best, HG. We're all quite indebted to you for your counsel. I agree w / your sentiment, there are always people you must prevent from using you, but that is the price you pay for access to the most incredible SB opportunities of your life. I just love it, am so happy to be vaccinated to get back in the bowl.
Regarding the topic of catching feelings mentioned earlier in the thread, one thing I find that helps a lot is staying anonymous. Some of the girls on SA invite an anonymous relationship. I've been with my current SB for nearly a year, anonymously. I don't think too much about her, whereas in cases where we had more of a girlfriend / boyfriend experience and knew a lot about each other, I tended to personalize it, despite it being P2 P.
I'm a kind and generous man. It comes naturally to me. This does open me up to a certain amount of "scamming", but it also can lead to a big reward. I think that a lot of the girls on SA are scared and don't know what they are doing. But they need money. Most of them drop off the site within a few weeks, which in those cases means they are probably not cunning scammers. It ends up being like a scam when I gamble some money to persuade the type of girl I'm after and don't succeed. I only gamble what I can afford. The girl also did not succeed in the long run.
HollywoodGuy
04-03-21, 15:06
In my hiatus I have been cruising Fetlife to no avail. Great site for swingers and BBW lovers. Kinda leaves me out. On the very rare occasion you see a hot young girl, there is either no reply or a request for sugar.
Just came across this ad on SA: Porn star Jane Rogers.
https://www.seeking.com/member/a4316e0f-8875-4d8b-aa87-6fac193652ee
Clearly she's got GPS but she might be a lot of fun for those with deep pockets and big wallets.
I'm a kind and generous man. It comes naturally to me. This does open me up to a certain amount of "scamming", but it also can lead to a big reward. I think that a lot of the girls on SA are scared and don't know what they are doing. But they need money. Most of them drop off the site within a few weeks, which in those cases means they are probably not cunning scammers. It ends up being like a scam when I gamble some money to persuade the type of girl I'm after and don't succeed. I only gamble what I can afford. The girl also did not succeed in the long run.This is just wild for so many reasons.
We all have our own way and own skills at game but this thing about being a doormat can't be that helpful. A girl knows within 1 minute of meeting you if she's attracted to you or not. All of this time invested to get her comfortable gets you one thing, a girl that's not that attracted to you but will give you a turn just to placate you once in a while. The performance you'll get will be her bare minimum and I can't imagine being satisfied with that. If a girl doesn't tell me "I'm all yours daddy, do as you wish" then just I'm disappointed.
This is just wild for so many reasons.
We all have our own way and own skills at game but this thing about being a doormat can't be that helpful. A girl knows within 1 minute of meeting you if she's attracted to you or not. All of this time invested to get her comfortable gets you one thing, a girl that's not that attracted to you but will give you a turn just to placate you once in a while. The performance you'll get will be her bare minimum and I can't imagine being satisfied with that. If a girl doesn't tell me "I'm all yours daddy, do as you wish" then just I'm disappointed.Are you trying to infer my attractiveness from what I wrote? Well, that was unexpected. But I do agree with you that attractiveness plays an important role in this sugardaddy game. The prospect of having an SB who enjoys herself with you is a motivating factor for staying in shape, maintaining weight, good grooming, and so on.
Are you trying to infer my attractiveness from what I wrote? Well, that was unexpected. But I do agree with you that attractiveness plays an important role in this sugardaddy game. The prospect of having an SB who enjoys herself with you is a motivating factor for staying in shape, maintaining weight, good grooming, and so on.LOL. Not at all. My point is that you're wasting lots of time trying to get a girl to like you, thinking that she needs that time to grow 'attraction'. She knows right away upon meeting you if she's down. Don't waste endless hours to 'nurture' her. Things like diners and fun weekends are rewards for good behavior, not a free ride. Get a quick coffee or drink with a POT and make your move. She shoots you down? No problem, it's her way of saying she's not into you. NEXT!
LOL. Not at all. My point is that you're wasting lots of time trying to get a girl to like you, thinking that she needs that time to grow 'attraction'. She knows right away upon meeting you if she's down. Don't waste endless hours to 'nurture' her. Things like diners and fun weekends are rewards for good behavior, not a free ride. Get a quick coffee or drink with a POT and make your move. She shoots you down? No problem, it's her way of saying she's not into you. NEXT!Alrighty, that's clear, thanks. And BTW, I've always enjoyed your insightful posts, though I think you and I are different. Even at my advanced age, I'm a bit like the idealistic protagonist in Dostoevsky's great novel "The Idiot". LOL.
In my hiatus I have been cruising Fetlife to no avail. Great site for swingers and BBW lovers. Kinda leaves me out. On the very rare occasion you see a hot young girl, there is either no reply or a request for sugar.Had a girl try to pull me on there a few years ago. Not my thing either.
You still in LV or did you head back to LA? I'm thinking about spending some extended time over in LV soon.
Alrighty, that's clear, thanks. And BTW, I've always enjoyed your insightful posts, though I think you and I are different. Even at my advanced age, I'm a bit like the idealistic protagonist in Dostoevsky's great novel "The Idiot". LOL.The problem is its guys like you that fuel the fire of GPS and create a market for spamming the site with scammers and time wasters. It's both inconvenient to the rest of us and cosmic injustice that these girls just get a free lunch for basically just existing and reciting a dumb script. Obviously you do you but I would ask you to reconsider sending money blind to women you don't even know or have no guarantee of reciprocation from. Just from a purely utilitarian standpoint. However, if you just have a "thing" for throwing money away for no reason then I can't knock it I guess. If you want to be "generous" and actually get your moneys worth, I would recommend actually meeting these girls at their crazy price points (7 $+) but at least guaranteeing some sugar from it. I'd rather that then throwing out little $20 "gifts" to girls that will just ghost you once they think they've drained you for what you're worth.
TheHuntsman
04-04-21, 13:58
The problem is its guys like you that fuel the fire of GPS and create a market for spamming the site with scammers and time wasters. It's both inconvenient to the rest of us and cosmic injustice that these girls just get a free lunch for basically just existing and reciting a dumb script. Obviously you do you but I would ask you to reconsider sending money blind to women you don't even know or have no guarantee of reciprocation from. Just from a purely utilitarian standpoint. However, if you just have a "thing" for throwing money away for no reason then I can't knock it I guess. If you want to be "generous" and actually get your moneys worth, I would recommend actually meeting these girls at their crazy price points (7 $+) but at least guaranteeing some sugar from it. I'd rather that then throwing out little $20 "gifts" to girls that will just ghost you once they think they've drained you for what you're worth.Totally agree. You should always do you. Maybe we all don't want the same thing but definitely do you. If anyone looks back at my recent posts you can see I have made this error recently. Which isn't my normal MO but more of since my head has not been in the right place.
The influx of girls asking 300 for just head is ridiculous.
The problem is its guys like you that fuel the fire of GPS and create a market for spamming the site with scammers and time wasters. It's both inconvenient to the rest of us and cosmic injustice that these girls just get a free lunch for basically just existing and reciting a dumb script. Obviously you do you but I would ask you to reconsider sending money blind to women you don't even know or have no guarantee of reciprocation from. Just from a purely utilitarian standpoint. However, if you just have a "thing" for throwing money away for no reason then I can't knock it I guess. If you want to be "generous" and actually get your moneys worth, I would recommend actually meeting these girls at their crazy price points (7 $+) but at least guaranteeing some sugar from it. I'd rather that then throwing out little $20 "gifts" to girls that will just ghost you once they think they've drained you for what you're worth.His dick, his money. What he does or pays has nothing to do with the rest of us. Any chick that wants to rinse isn't one I'm looking for anyway. The only effect what he does has on me, is how amusing it is to read the posts.
FirstClass1
04-04-21, 19:48
The problem is its guys like you that fuel the fire of GPS and create a market for spamming the site with scammers and time wasters. It's both inconvenient to the rest of us and cosmic injustice that these girls just get a free lunch for basically just existing and reciting a dumb script. Obviously you do you but I would ask you to reconsider sending money blind to women you don't even know or have no guarantee of reciprocation from. Just from a purely utilitarian standpoint. However, if you just have a "thing" for throwing money away for no reason then I can't knock it I guess. If you want to be "generous" and actually get your moneys worth, I would recommend actually meeting these girls at their crazy price points (7 $+) but at least guaranteeing some sugar from it. I'd rather that then throwing out little $20 "gifts" to girls that will just ghost you once they think they've drained you for what you're worth.Exactly. Snake27 you are squandering excellent resources in this board and in the Richmond, VA SB threads, with which to derive the absolute best possible experiences. It is not high minded or idealistic to throw away your time and resources on stuck up hookers who won't put out. Those "good girls" you've been spoiling for free are nothing of the sort with the broke fuckbois they're manhandled by. Listen to the sound counsel experienced guys are offering you.
No matter how many rinsers, con artists, GPS girls, dreamers, etc. There are on seeking, there are an equal if not greater number of physically, emotionally and financially needy girls looking for some sort of support in exchange for a good time. Sugar dating is a hobby that requires time and dedication to find your groove. But once you do you will never look back.
Due to the complexities of life I have had to bow out of the bowl for a while. But I am looking forward to the day I can re-enter. And happy hunting.Absolutely, the bowl will be here waiting, HG. Guys, if you put in the effort, you WILL get lucky. I must have done some good in a past life, as the sugaring gods smiled upon me this weekend: I was talking to a very hot blonde in her early 20's on the site, and upon building rapport, moved the conversation to text. After closing the date, she mentions she has an identical twin who is also down to meet me! Her profile made no mention of a sister, but it turns out that the one I was talking to shared my info with her sister, and both decided that they liked my looks, and wanted to celebrate their birthday weekend by having threesome creampie sex with me! I spent this Friday and Saturday filling up two young, tall, gorgeous blonde twins' birthday cakes with my frosting over and over again.
Alkalinedio
04-05-21, 12:01
I met one SB recently 21 yr old white girl. We had not met yet and were chatting on the phone & she mentioned she lives with 3 girls etc. I started to ask about them and to describe them, the one I thought sounded hot I asked her if she would be down to hang with us, all 3 of us, and spoil them both. Another one was 18 so I asked her if I could speak to her friend to make her more comfortable and trade pics and she shot me her cell and I did a side chat w / the roommate. She said she was really shy and is not on that site and probably won't want to go, or do anything but she would talk to her. But I think me speaking to the 18 yr old directly and trading pics, disarmed her that it was suspect or sketchy. Long story short we all met up and had a good fun romp in the back of the car. I sat in the middle and it was pretty fun I just noticed your post so I figured I'd share that. SA has some gems I am just now learning for sure, but it just takes time to weed through a lot of the BS profiles on there. Thanks for the advice to the Vets on here.
Stay safe.
AD.
Just wondering but has anyone experienced a SB offering friends for an arrangement? I'm not complaining or anything but I'm just wondering if an agency is behind the works or they really are friends at all. I've met 2 of the friends already. All pretty and bb too!
Alkalinedio
04-05-21, 16:34
Great find on the twins.
Enjoy life to the fullest.
Amazing.
Exactly. Snake27 you are squandering excellent resources in this board and in the Richmond, VA SB threads, with which to derive the absolute best possible experiences. It is not high minded or idealistic to throw away your time and resources on stuck up hookers who won't put out. Those "good girls" you've been spoiling for free are nothing of the sort with the broke fuckbois they're manhandled by. Listen to the sound counsel experienced guys are offering you.
Absolutely, the bowl will be here waiting, HG. Guys, if you put in the effort, you WILL get lucky. I must have done some good in a past life, as the sugaring gods smiled upon me this weekend: I was talking to a very hot blonde in her early 20's on the site, and upon building rapport, moved the conversation to text. After closing the date, she mentions she has an identical twin who is also down to meet me! Her profile made no mention of a sister, but it turns out that the one I was talking to shared my info with her sister, and both decided that they liked my looks, and wanted to celebrate their birthday weekend by having threesome creampie sex with me! I spent this Friday and Saturday filling up two young, tall, gorgeous blonde twins' birthday cakes with my frosting over and over again.
I met one SB recently 21 yr old white girl. We had not met yet and were chatting on the phone & she mentioned she lives with 3 girls etc. I started to ask about them and to describe them, the one I thought sounded hot I asked her if she would be down to hang with us, all 3 of us, and spoil them both. Another one was 18 so I asked her if I could speak to her friend to make her more comfortable and trade pics and she shot me her cell and I did a side chat w / the roommate. She said she was really shy and is not on that site and probably won't want to go, or do anything but she would talk to her. But I think me speaking to the 18 yr old directly and trading pics, disarmed her that it was suspect or sketchy. Long story short we all met up and had a good fun romp in the back of the car. I sat in the middle and it was pretty fun I just noticed your post so I figured I'd share that. SA has some gems I am just now learning for sure, but it just takes time to weed through a lot of the BS profiles on there. Thanks for the advice to the Vets on here.
Stay safe.
AD.What kind of damage $$ can you expect for something like that?
Just came across this ad on SA: Porn star Jane Rogers.
https://www.seeking.com/member/a4316e0f-8875-4d8b-aa87-6fac193652ee
Clearly she's got GPS but she might be a lot of fun for those with deep pockets and big wallets.She may be a porn star but she's not going to get shit from anyone talking to SDs like that. This bi7ch said quote "if you don't have absurd amounts of money to funnel into my accounts, I simply don't care for you. " She must be out of her ever loving mind, rich guys often do shower women with luxuries but they aren't about to be talked down to like that. Even a guy looking for a dominatrix to whip his ass isn't going to put up with that bullshit. Rude, classless and stupid way to advertise yourself.
Exactly. Snake27 you are squandering excellent resources in this board and in the Richmond, VA SB threads, with which to derive the absolute best possible experiences. It is not high minded or idealistic to throw away your time and resources on stuck up hookers who won't put out. Those "good girls" you've been spoiling for free are nothing of the sort with the broke fuckbois they're manhandled by. Listen to the sound counsel experienced guys are offering you.
Thanks, I appreciate that. Quick comment about the market price for sugarbabies that another person made, let me point out that one mis-spending guy like me could not have an effect on it.
We all have our mental models for how sugar dating works, but in the final analysis the model works if we are able to derive happiness from our experiences, and I think it's important to deliver happiness to our partners. My current SB, whom I've called Julia in posts, met me 11 months ago in the parking lot of a low-end hotel. She made her 15 msec decision and we got a room. We have a very good sexual relationship and I'm pretty generous to her at 300 per visit, 3 times a month, which is enough for me, plus sometimes but not always I say "yes" to her emergency requests. As far as I can tell, she prefers older guys and is exclusive to me. At the same time, she is not too clingy. Just about perfect.
Regarding the attempt I've described of dating girls non-sexually for awhile, well first of all it did not work very well, I'll admit. I think we should not be afraid to report our mistakes, even to the detriment of the reputation of our anonymous handles. But the idea was based on my observation that some people like me better as time goes by. It's been true with Julia. Of my four attempts at dating this way, one time I did manage to have a pleasant afternoon of sex in a hotel, but it wasn't worth all the money (about $1000) it took to get there. I think that all four girls were the type that drop off SA without finding anyone. The girl I had the pleasant afternoon with is still a friend and we know each other's name and professions.
HollywoodGuy
04-07-21, 09:51
Had a girl try to pull me on there a few years ago. Not my thing either.
You still in LV or did you head back to LA? I'm thinking about spending some extended time over in LV soon.Still in vegas. Plenty of girls, just no extra funds to pursue. Lucky I know a couple of girls from the past that still stay in touch.
HollywoodGuy
04-07-21, 09:57
Thanks, I appreciate that. Quick comment about the market price for sugarbabies that another person made, let me point out that one mis-spending guy like me could not have an effect on it.
We all have our mental models for how sugar dating works, but in the final analysis the model works if we are able to derive happiness from our experiences, and I think it's important to deliver happiness to our partners. My current SB, whom I've called Julia in posts, met me 11 months ago in the parking lot of a low-end hotel. She made her 15 msec decision and we got a room. We have a very good sexual relationship and I'm pretty generous to her at 300 per visit, 3 times a month, which is enough for me, plus sometimes but not always I say "yes" to her emergency requests. As far as I can tell, she prefers older guys and is exclusive to me. At the same time, she is not too clingy. Just about perfect.
Regarding the attempt I've described of dating girls non-sexually for awhile, well first of all it did not work very well, I'll admit. I think we should not be afraid to report our mistakes, even to the detriment of the reputation of our anonymous handles. But the idea was based on my observation that some people like me better as time goes by. It's been true with Julia. Of my four attempts at dating this way, one time I did manage to have a pleasant afternoon of sex in a hotel, but it wasn't worth all the money (about $1000) it took to get there. I think that all four girls were the type that drop off SA without finding anyone. The girl I had the pleasant afternoon with is still a friend and we know each other's name and professions.Many years ago I would offer girls .4 just to meet up, figuring that was a pittance just to see if it would go anywhere. I tried that a few times with mixed results. Stopped doing it when my game got stronger. As being taken advantage of left a bad taste in my mouth.
Alkalinedio
04-07-21, 12:17
I dropped $$ that night as one was new to SA the other is not so they weren't demanding any crazy figures. I got lucky.
Stay safe.
AD.
What kind of damage $$ can you expect for something like that?
NutritionFacts
04-10-21, 13:03
Is it true some OF girls can be met up with in person for something extra / mutual? Anyone ever tried?
Is it true some OF girls can be met up with in person for something extra / mutual? Anyone ever tried?Does it happen? Sure, probably. I've never heard of it happening from men, only from the girls that act like they meet up to scam guys, but I'm sure in the history of the universe it has happened.
I can tell you from my own anecdotal experience though, that its a scam. If I had to guess I would say that 99% of the time its a total scam. Maybe even 99.9%. I will warn you that if you pursue this you will almost certainly be scammed and lose money, or just waste your time outright.
However, give it a shot and maybe you'll get lucky. Anything is possible. If you're smart and only send money after meeting (if you can POSSIBLY pull that off which I doubt), then you have nothing to lose (except the $10 or whatever to sign up for a month of OF).
If I were you though, I would stick to the sugar bowl. Much favorable cost / benefit analysis.
Is it true some OF girls can be met up with in person for something extra / mutual? Anyone ever tried?OF? What's that.
VinoVeritas034
04-11-21, 01:40
Hi gents, I've posted about Seeking user Cassidy062 previously. She advertises under an array of usernames and, when she is discovered / outed, she deletes her profile and creates a new one. She's a scammer and a thief. You can read my prior write-up on her but, if you value your hard earned dollars, please look elsewhere as she will take off with your $$$ and not deliver anything she promises. Here is her current link but expect she will deactivate it shortly.
https://www.seeking.com/member/c2424a37-a2c6-4aec-a37b-30f543fc68d6
Is it true some OF girls can be met up with in person for something extra / mutual? Anyone ever tried?What is OF?
What is OF?OF = Only Fans.
AceKingQueen
04-11-21, 08:19
What is OF?Onlyfans dot com.
When you find one like that, it always pays to post pictures. The link may go but the photos are often reused.
Bam.
Hi gents, I've posted about Seeking user Cassidy062 previously. She advertises under an array of usernames and, when she is discovered / outed, she deletes her profile and creates a new one. She's a scammer and a thief. You can read my prior write-up on her but, if you value your hard earned dollars, please look elsewhere as she will take off with your $$$ and not deliver anything she promises. Here is her current link but expect she will deactivate it shortly.
https://www.seeking.com/member/c2424a37-a2c6-4aec-a37b-30f543fc68d6
FirstClass1
04-12-21, 00:32
Hi gents, I've posted about Seeking user Cassidy062 previously. She advertises under an array of usernames and, when she is discovered / outed, she deletes her profile and creates a new one. She's a scammer and a thief. You can read my prior write-up on her but, if you value your hard earned dollars, please look elsewhere as she will take off with your $$$ and not deliver anything she promises. Here is her current link but expect she will deactivate it shortly.
https://www.seeking.com/member/c2424a37-a2c6-4aec-a37b-30f543fc68d6I'm sorry to hear you lost thousands to such a devious hooker. Can you point us to where we might find other reports of her scams?
Is it true some OF girls can be met up with in person for something extra / mutual? Anyone ever tried?Yes it's true but only if the girl is an established pro already in which case the OF page is simply a business card / side hustle. If you mean can you meet with OF civilian girls who aren't listed actively as escorts then no, it's a scam.
VinoVeritas034
04-12-21, 13:18
I'm sorry to hear you lost thousands to such a devious hooker. Can you point us to where we might find other reports of her scams?Sure thing, I'm not sure how to post a link to my prior review of her here, but if you look under my posts you will see one from a couple months ago back when she was SA user Jenaaa91 and it details what happened between us. She is also featured on a number of other websites, like predator list dot com, that detail her exploits. I discovered these postings only after the fact. You can PM me for details on that as I don't think I can post links to other sites here.
FarFarAway
04-13-21, 00:47
So, in my sugar GV inbox shows up an advert for this site. I logged in and established an account today. It is free. It has almost exactly the same look and feel as SA. I searched in my area, and saw a photo of a girl I have messaged on SA before. So, it isn't totally fake. I was logging in via Tor, for safety. I tried to send a message and got a database error. I thought it might be because of the browser. I went to a regular browser on my computer, and when I entered the URL, I got a message that this wasn't a secure site and it might be spoofing me to get personal information. (this is even though the URL began "https:
Anyone else have opinions / experience?
HollywoodGuy
04-17-21, 12:49
So, in my sugar GV inbox shows up an advert for this site. I logged in and established an account today. It is free. It has almost exactly the same look and feel as SA. I searched in my area, and saw a photo of a girl I have messaged on SA before. So, it isn't totally fake. I was logging in via Tor, for safety. I tried to send a message and got a database error. I thought it might be because of the browser. I went to a regular browser on my computer, and when I entered the URL, I got a message that this wasn't a secure site and it might be spoofing me to get personal information. (this is even though the URL began "https:
Anyone else have opinions / experience?Searched the site a bit. What's the membership fee for the guys?
FirstClass1
04-17-21, 13:46
So, in my sugar GV inbox shows up an advert for this site. I logged in and established an account today. It is free. It has almost exactly the same look and feel as SA. I searched in my area, and saw a photo of a girl I have messaged on SA before. So, it isn't totally fake. I was logging in via Tor, for safety. I tried to send a message and got a database error. I thought it might be because of the browser. I went to a regular browser on my computer, and when I entered the URL, I got a message that this wasn't a secure site and it might be spoofing me to get personal information. (this is even though the URL began "https:
Anyone else have opinions / experience?Do you have the link? I tried looking them up via search engine and I'm not getting any relevant hits.
FarFarAway
04-17-21, 14:28
Do you have the link? I tried looking them up via search engine and I'm not getting any relevant hits.Sugar-ivy.com.
There is another site that is sugarivy.com, that isn't it.
It claims to be free. That's why it puzzles me.
Do you have the link? I tried looking them up via search engine and I'm not getting any relevant hits.Home | Sugar & Ivy
https://sugar-ivy.com/
FirstClass1
04-17-21, 23:58
Home | Sugar & Ivy
https://sugar-ivy.com/Thanks for the link. Looks like this site is brand spanking new, and they're still trying to build up the membership. The selection is still slim, SA is popping with girls online on a weekend afternoon. I'm reluctant to do the verification at this time: 1. Not enough traffic at this time to justify the trouble 2. Questions on their security and discretion. How vulnerable are they to doxxing, as happened with Ashley Madison and Parler?
NutritionFacts
04-20-21, 19:31
I heard people saying SA is getting better but its still a lot of GPS I'm wading through. Its almost like a part time job in itself filtering people on SA.
FarFarAway
04-21-21, 09:04
I heard people saying SA is getting better but its still a lot of GPS I'm wading through. Its almost like a part time job in itself filtering people on SA.That comment has been made about being on SA for quite a while. I do think there is GPS, but you also have to have game. If you're negotiating w / a girl via messaging instead of face to face, there's no way you're getting anything other than her escort-equivalent price. My bowl buddy was recently in touch w / a porn star whose initial ask was 900, he got her at 400. Depending on your attractiveness and the girls, great deals can be had. I am lucky to have a regular for 1000/ mo. Petite, college grad, gorgeous naked.
BojHunter85
04-22-21, 13:20
That comment has been made about being on SA for quite a while. I do think there is GPS, but you also have to have game. If you're negotiating w / a girl via messaging instead of face to face, there's no way you're getting anything other than her escort-equivalent price. My bowl buddy was recently in touch w / a porn star whose initial ask was 900, he got her at 400. Depending on your attractiveness and the girls, great deals can be had. I am lucky to have a regular for 1000/ mo. Petite, college grad, gorgeous naked.Would love a discreet pic of this college honey you have.
When I look at the girls' profiles, they are all recent, have one, maybe two lines under the About Me section. Always vague and unimaginative. And they never fill in the section under what they are seeking.
Pictures always look like they pulled them out of an Ambercrombie & Fitch catalogue. That's why I can't shell out $90 a month for this site. Way too many bots and fake ads.
NutritionFacts
04-22-21, 23:03
Anyone got leads on any good SBs? I have not had much luck finding real ones on SA, I have a week left on the sub.
When I look at the girls' profiles, they are all recent, have one, maybe two lines under the About Me section. Always vague and unimaginative. And they never fill in the section under what they are seeking.
Pictures always look like they pulled them out of an Ambercrombie & Fitch catalogue. That's why I can't shell out $90 a month for this site. Way too many bots and fake ads.I've had BBFS with 4 awesome babes in the last 30 days! SA is awesome!
I've had BBFS with 4 awesome babes in the last 30 days! SA is awesome!I'm guessing you spent minimum $1500 for all 4.
I have about 6 AMPs that I go to and get BBFS for $170 each time. Met a young 24 year old Korean today at a spa in * and she blew my mind away (something else as well). Rocking body and great, pink, pointy nipples on the most perfect pair of manufactured breasts imaginable.
I'm guessing you spent minimum $1500 for all 4.
I have about 6 AMPs that I go to and get BBFS for $170 each time. Met a young 24 year old Korean today at a spa in * and she blew my mind away (something else as well). Rocking body and great, pink, pointy nipples on the most perfect pair of manufactured breasts imaginable.Way close, $1600 and if you become a regular the $ drops. I love SA!
Way close, $1600 and if you become a regular the $ drops. I love SA!I know it's stupid but 2 were CIP. Sometimes the lower head takes over!
NutritionFacts
04-24-21, 21:28
Met someone who sells her worn lingerie, she has a tech job so she makes good $$ Think maybe she can be converted to an sb? She was not asking for much for her stuff so I do not know what to make of it.
FirstClass1
04-24-21, 23:35
I'm guessing you spent minimum $1500 for all 4.
I have about 6 AMPs that I go to and get BBFS for $170 each time. Met a young 24 year old Korean today at a spa in * and she blew my mind away (something else as well). Rocking body and great, pink, pointy nipples on the most perfect pair of manufactured breasts imaginable.It depends on what you're looking for. Some guys like aftermarket parts on their girls, don't care about the high mileage, or will ride any old jalopy that'll get them from Point A to point CIP. Nothing wrong with that. Like others, I prefer the faster, sleeker, high performance vehicles: fresh, all natural, hot young girls. I'm ready to throw down good coin for that premium.
I'm guessing you spent minimum $1500 for all 4.
I have about 6 AMPs that I go to and get BBFS for $170 each time. Met a young 24 year old Korean today at a spa in * and she blew my mind away (something else as well). Rocking body and great, pink, pointy nipples on the most perfect pair of manufactured breasts imaginable.Pic's or it didn't happen. Or at least a clue as to where this pink unicorn works from.
M.
FirstClass1
04-25-21, 02:38
Expect to see more profiles like this one:
"I've been unsocial for so long because of the pandemic so I'm looking forward to meeting new, interesting people ".
"I'm looking to go out to dinner and get to know someone and see if there is chemistry, then we can go from there".
https://www.seeking.com/member/11be26d0-44c5-44da-aea5-d0e45c469197
I'm guessing you spent minimum $1500 for all 4.
I have about 6 AMPs that I go to and get BBFS for $170 each time. Met a young 24 year old Korean today at a spa in * and she blew my mind away (something else as well). Rocking body and great, pink, pointy nipples on the most perfect pair of manufactured breasts imaginable.Do share the names and locations of these AMPs?
FarFarAway
04-25-21, 08:59
Met someone who sells her worn lingerie, she has a tech job so she makes good $$ Think maybe she can be converted to an sb? She was not asking for much for her stuff so I do not know what to make of it.There's a site specifically for this, PantyDeal, I was a member for a while. It's free. I tried to do that, it never worked out. One problem. No geographic search. So it was tough to find girls who were local. Their whole point is that it's by mail, no contact required.
FirstClass1
04-26-21, 19:03
Met someone who sells her worn lingerie, she has a tech job so she makes good $$ Think maybe she can be converted to an sb? She was not asking for much for her stuff so I do not know what to make of it.If she doesn't need the money, she's likely doing it for the thrills. If you can find a way to leverage her naughty streak, I wager she'd be a freak in bed.
FirstClass1
05-04-21, 00:27
I won't partake, but sharing for any who might be interested. An upscale blue eyed blonde pro, says she will do creampie for 1 k.
https://www.seeking.com/member/2ee39a4f-62f7-47ea-b6af-1400e33b12a2
FirstClass1
05-04-21, 00:34
Another I won't partake, I personally didn't like her attitude. Doesn't do anal, doesn't swallow, doesn't like oral on her, and kisses only depending on her mood. Another entitled, lazy deadbeat, but she will take your creampie for 800 rather than go to work.
Lucky for you guys, she's an entitled lazy deadbeat who will take *your* creampie rather than go to work!
https://www.seeking.com/member/1e8a5c6b-4959-4fd7-ba8d-b5697da0d974
Another I won't partake, I personally didn't like her attitude. Doesn't do anal, doesn't swallow, doesn't like oral on her, and kisses only depending on her mood. Another entitled, lazy deadbeat, but she will take your creampie for 800 rather than go to work.
Lucky for you guys, she's an entitled lazy deadbeat who will take *your* creampie rather than go to work!
https://www.seeking.com/member/1e8a5c6b-4959-4fd7-ba8d-b5697da0d974Looks like it's dated for 1998.
FirstClass1
05-05-21, 01:03
Looks like it's dated for 1998.That's a "90's filter" from Snapchat.
I won't partake, but sharing for any who might be interested. An upscale blue eyed blonde pro, says she will do creampie for 1 k.
https://www.seeking.com/member/2ee39a4f-62f7-47ea-b6af-1400e33b12a2Profile not found?
Any others?
FirstClass1
05-08-21, 01:46
A real life Wonder Woman for the high rollers: 6 feet tall, cute face, absolutely banging body, amazing tits and ass, and legs that go on forever. All that plus a sweet personality. She wants 1 k per date. Will do bare "once she's comfortable," in other words YMMV. I'll do my best to breed the next generation of conquerors with this goddess.
https://www.seeking.com/member/c0364ebe-d668-4bdb-9180-cf6b63fe931c
A real life Wonder Woman for the high rollers: 6 feet tall, cute face, absolutely banging body, amazing tits and ass, and legs that go on forever. All that plus a sweet personality. She wants 1 k per date. Will do bare "once she's comfortable," in other words YMMV. I'll do my best to breed the next generation of conquerors with this goddess.
https://www.seeking.com/member/c0364ebe-d668-4bdb-9180-cf6b63fe931cI hope you were talking rubles or pesos. Or dodgcoin.
Not the almighty dollar. Or heaven forbid, Bitcoin.
https://www.seeking.com/member/d8ad4a7a-70fc-471a-9301-515b70ab7f94
If anyone gets anything but obstacles from this one please report. Probably someone just bored and having fun being an ass. Lots to cull through these days. But LOTS more scammers. Not even pros just trying to get something for nothing. Still have a couple meet ups planned soon that could lead to something good and have one right now that is pretty great in most ways.
https://www.seeking.com/member/d8ad4a7a-70fc-471a-9301-515b70ab7f94
If anyone gets anything but obstacles from this one please report. Probably someone just bored and having fun being an ass. Lots to cull through these days. But LOTS more scammers. Not even pros just trying to get something for nothing. Still have a couple meet ups planned soon that could lead to something good and have one right now that is pretty great in most ways.Any girl on SA who does not fill in the 'Seeking" portion of their profile and writes a quick one liner on the top portion is just a scammer. I have seen these pop up for the last 6 months. All are recent profiles, started in 2021.
The scamming is so pervasive now. Takes the fun out of it. Snapchat, Tinder, even Listcrawler has scammers galore (see my recent posting on escorts).
FirstClass1
05-08-21, 21:58
I hope you were talking rubles or pesos. Or dodgcoin.
Not the almighty dollar. Or heaven forbid, Bitcoin.You find me a statuesque hottie for 1000 pesos, and I will creampie her for you.
FirstClass1
05-08-21, 22:01
Any girl on SA who does not fill in the 'Seeking" portion of their profile and writes a quick one liner on the top portion is just a scammer. I have seen these pop up for the last 6 months. All are recent profiles, started in 2021.
The scamming is so pervasive now. Takes the fun out of it. Snapchat, Tinder, even Listcrawler has scammers galore (see my recent posting on escorts).Exactly. A one line profile with just one single photo with no face is not even worth the time messaging. Assuming it is even a real person (which I guarantee you it is not), chances are it will be a catfish or a bait and switch. No matter which way you cut it, those profiles are duds. Just report them and move on to the next one.
You find me a statuesque hottie for 1000 pesos, and I will creampie her for you.If I find a statuesque doll for 1000 pesos I will creampie her myself.
HollywoodGuy
05-09-21, 01:36
A real life Wonder Woman for the high rollers: 6 feet tall, cute face, absolutely banging body, amazing tits and ass, and legs that go on forever. All that plus a sweet personality. She wants 1 k per date. Will do bare "once she's comfortable," in other words YMMV. I'll do my best to breed the next generation of conquerors with this goddess.
https://www.seeking.com/member/c0364ebe-d668-4bdb-9180-cf6b63fe931cFor 1 k you should get at least 3 dates. Or am I missing something?
FirstClass1
05-09-21, 02:13
For 1 k you should get at least 3 dates. Or am I missing something?Depends on what you want, and some guys might want this. Some folks are happy with McDonald's, others want Mastro's.
No judgment, just different strokes.
FirstClass1
05-09-21, 02:37
For newer folks who are just getting started, I highly recommend visiting the Richmond, Virginia sugar thread. You'll find exceptional advice on every step of the way.
Here are a few guidelines that have helped me determine real profiles from fake ones:
https://www.seeking.com/member/4fae42ed-5c75-414f-81a2-dc28e1058650
This is porn star Violet Monroe's real sugar profile. As you can see, she's held her account since 2018, fills out most of her stats. And provides fully and coherently written "About Me" and "Seeking" sections.
On the other hand, here's another profile which I've screenshotted, as I don't expect it to last more than a week, tops, before it disappears in the site's constant whack-a-mole of fake profiles:
https://www.seeking.com/member/e15478a5-60bc-459c-b5aa-c537a24b0f68
Seeking always shows the profile's log in location, which in this case, is Latvia. The profile's location is California City, a small town of 14,000 in northern Antelope Valley, half of whose population are Venezuelan, Nigerian, and Eastern European Instagram models. Those models really love the desert. The nearby prison and air force base are also 'gram worthy.
The "About Me" section is exactly one sentence. No "Seeking" description to mention.
Should you message the latter profile, you are guaranteed to have an effort made to have you send money electronically "to see if you're serious" "to buy an outfit for our date," "for gas," "for an overdue bill," etc etc.
For 1 k you should get at least 3 dates. Or am I missing something?Hollywood I think your the only one getting elite pussy for pennies on the dollar at SA. Everyone else is living in the world where these GPS chicks expect $$ for a quick roll in the hay. Almost everyone I've spoken to (who looks even remotely good and isn't AA or a pro) expects about 4 digits per date.
Exactly. A one line profile with just one single photo with no face is not even worth the time messaging. Assuming it is even a real person (which I guarantee you it is not), chances are it will be a catfish or a bait and switch. No matter which way you cut it, those profiles are duds. Just report them and move on to the next one.I was very tempted to report but I just blocked. Would be interested in what happens when you report someone. Is it worth the effort? It would be great to cull the site a bit.
Alice2410.
https://www.seeking.com/member/86d2e164-6741-4985-a26e-6a53da28d8f2
Fresh off the boat from Peru, no previous arrangements
Nice little petite body, not quite as great as in photos, acne face, not as hot as pics, but still a a spinner.
Not on B / C.
Slightly broken english.
Vegan (which I find annoying).
I tossed her back, not for me.
PriscillaM
05-09-21, 19:58
Hollywood I think your the only one getting elite pussy for pennies on the dollar at SA. Everyone else is living in the world where these GPS chicks expect $$ for a quick roll in the hay. Almost everyone I've spoken to (who looks even remotely good and isn't AA or a pro) expects about 4 digits per date.I think I figured out how hollywood guy manages to get nonpros. He has a system.
StudBucket
05-09-21, 22:03
Hollywood I think your the only one getting elite pussy for pennies on the dollar at SA. Everyone else is living in the world where these GPS chicks expect $$ for a quick roll in the hay. Almost everyone I've spoken to (who looks even remotely good and isn't AA or a pro) expects about 4 digits per date.Interesting, but you are correct Good Boy. The girls lately in my opinion are asking ridiculous prices. I had 2 girls, very hot, ask $2 k for a meet up. Who the hell is paying these girls these prices and ruining the market for us? Unreal. Last year I was getting prices of $400-800, and I would hold the line at $500 (she had to be hot and offer decent time for this). Nowadays many are asking 4 figures. What the heck? Am I missing something or picking the wrong ones?
FirstClass1
05-10-21, 02:06
I think I figured out how hollywood guy manages to get nonpros. He has a system.There definitely are gorgeous girls on the who will give it up for free or for less coin. Higher mileage often comes with better looks, confidence, and / or game. All of these can be developed.
HG has been at it for a while, and has shared good conversation templates here in this thread.
FirstClass1
05-10-21, 02:08
I think I figured out how hollywood guy manages to get nonpros. He has a system.Four-figure GPS strikes indiscriminately; I've come across huge porkers and fuglies with 5 o'clock shadow who demand 1 k plus.
Thankfully there are also gorgeous girls on the site who will give it up for free or for much less coin.
HG has been at it for a while, and has shared good conversation templates here in this thread.
For newer folks who are just getting started, I highly recommend visiting the Richmond, Virginia sugar thread. You'll find exceptional advice on every step of the way.
Here are a few guidelines that have helped me determine real profiles from fake ones:
https://www.seeking.com/member/4fae42ed-5c75-414f-81a2-dc28e1058650
This is porn star Violet Monroe's real sugar profile. As you can see, she's held her account since 2018, fills out most of her stats. And provides fully and coherently written "About Me" and "Seeking" sections.
On the other hand, here's another profile which I've screenshotted, as I don't expect it to last more than a week, tops, before it disappears in the site's constant whack-a-mole of fake profiles:
https://www.seeking.com/member/e15478a5-60bc-459c-b5aa-c537a24b0f68
Seeking always shows the profile's log in location, which in this case, is Latvia. The profile's location is California City, a small town of 14,000 in northern Antelope Valley, half of whose population are Venezuelan, Nigerian, and Eastern European Instagram models. Those models really love the desert. The nearby prison and air force base are also 'gram worthy.
The "About Me" section is exactly one sentence. No "Seeking" description to mention.
Should you message the latter profile, you are guaranteed to have an effort made to have you send money electronically "to see if you're serious" "to buy an outfit for our date," "for gas," "for an overdue bill," etc etc.You'll naturally get a taste of real vs fake profiles as you go along. Imo you can simplify this all to 1 simple golden rule.
1) Do not (under LITERALLY ANY circumstances) send money before meeting.
Thats the only rule you need to not waste your time or be scammed. Message any girl you find hot, long bio or not. In my experience the best girls have been ones with almost no bio and like 1 or 2 pics max. They're usually new and don't have GPS. So I just think that advice is bad.
The general insight that "California City", or any girl from Venezuela etc. Is a fake profile scammer is absolutely true. But one line profiles can be gems more often than not.
HollywoodGuy
05-10-21, 12:02
Hollywood I think your the only one getting elite pussy for pennies on the dollar at SA. Everyone else is living in the world where these GPS chicks expect $$ for a quick roll in the hay. Almost everyone I've spoken to (who looks even remotely good and isn't AA or a pro) expects about 4 digits per date.Glad I like AA girls. Was always my preference. White girls got me into too much trouble. And early on I did spend a lot more. And I did spend an insane amount of time figuring it all out. It was like a full time job at one point. Plus just the huge number of dates. Wish I had learned all this stuff at a much younger age.
HollywoodGuy
05-10-21, 19:45
Hollywood I think your the only one getting elite pussy for pennies on the dollar at SA. Everyone else is living in the world where these GPS chicks expect $$ for a quick roll in the hay. Almost everyone I've spoken to (who looks even remotely good and isn't AA or a pro) expects about 4 digits per date.Also if they are new to sugaring, 18 or 19 or 20, live with their parents or in the dorms. All those things keep the costs down. Daddy issues. Insecure. The list goes on. And for sure AA are less but there are plenty of affordable latinas/mixed and dark skinned asian as well.
I had to share it just cracked me up. "Good day, how are you doing, I am half African and fortunate to have gold and diamond in a land I inherited from my late parents. I am looking for an investor that I can work with. Hope we can go long way. Unfortunately been having problems logging on here so it will be golden if we can text or talk on email. " Have had two Latina's in the last week for 1. 5 one with the tightest p I think I have ever experienced. One with mad BJ skills. Both cute, a little round, but fun. I am playing with increasing my donation but not getting bites from the girls that I would be willing to do that with. I think or hope that there is still a supply and demand issue going on. Girls still feeling like giving it up during the pandemic is more valuable. As things continue to open up, their valuable p will depreciate.
I had to share it just cracked me up. "Good day, how are you doing, I am half African and fortunate to have gold and diamond in a land I inherited from my late parents. I am looking for an investor that I can work with. Hope we can go long way. Unfortunately been having problems logging on here so it will be golden if we can text or talk on email. " Have had two Latina's in the last week for 1. 5 one with the tightest p I think I have ever experienced. One with mad BJ skills. Both cute, a little round, but fun. I am playing with increasing my donation but not getting bites from the girls that I would be willing to do that with. I think or hope that there is still a supply and demand issue going on. Girls still feeling like giving it up during the pandemic is more valuable. As things continue to open up, their valuable p will depreciate.Just over 3 months until universities start in-person classes and fill up the dorms for us.
I think that will be the turning point.
https://www.lmu.edu/academics/provost/communications/letters/lmutoreopenfall2021/
Thanks Dr Poon. (seriously, that's his name. I like this guy).
FirstClass1
05-10-21, 23:15
White girls got me into too much trouble. And early on I did spend a lot more. And I did spend an insane amount of time figuring it all out. It was like a full time job at one point. Plus just the huge number of dates. Wish I had learned all this stuff at a much younger age.
Both cute, a little round, but fun. I am playing with increasing my donation but not getting bites from the girls that I would be willing to do that with. I think or hope that there is still a supply and demand issue going on. Girls still feeling like giving it up during the pandemic is more valuable. As things continue to open up, their valuable p will depreciate. White and Asian American girls, particularly beautiful, athletic and model types, tend to expect larger allowances, as they are in higher demand. You can also get lower allowances for "Manager's Special" cuts of pork round: the fatter, trashier girls, and women over the hill. The average starting proposals I'm seeing right now are between 300-500 per date for the good-looking girls of all ethnicities.
In all cases, you will come across outliers, be they fat girls who look like Grimace from McDonalds asking for 2000 per meet, or gorgeous clean white girls who will give it up for free.
HollywoodGuy
05-11-21, 16:57
White and Asian American girls, particularly beautiful, athletic and model types, tend to expect larger allowances, as they are in higher demand. In all cases, you will come across outliers (for less), or gorgeous clean white girls who will give it up for free.I do agree with this edited portion
I met a stripper SB and was wondering about someone's experience with them? Are they pretty transactional like they are in the clubs? Only did a meet and greet last Saturday and meeting again this week for "sugar" supposedly. She sounded like she was promoting her club during m&g telling me to visit her there sometimes but we agreed on an arrangement during the meet.
FirstClass1
05-12-21, 05:55
I met a stripper SB and was wondering about someone's experience with them? Are they pretty transactional like they are in the clubs? Only did a meet and greet last Saturday and meeting again this week for "sugar" supposedly. She sounded like she was promoting her club during m&g telling me to visit her there sometimes but we agreed on an arrangement during the meet.I've come across different types in my own experience. Some were hustle-minded sharks at all times, and these I quickly send packing, while others compartmentalized their behaviors and were sweet and attentive with me, and business minded while dancing. I found no difference in this regard between active or former dancers.
I met a stripper SB and was wondering about someone's experience with them? Are they pretty transactional like they are in the clubs? Only did a meet and greet last Saturday and meeting again this week for "sugar" supposedly. She sounded like she was promoting her club during m&g telling me to visit her there sometimes but we agreed on an arrangement during the meet.While strippers would not be my first (or second) choice of SB, go in like you would any type of relationship with women. Know your boundaries, what your expectations are, and act accordingly. If she crosses the lines or doesn't meet your expectations just NEXT her. You're the man here so you're in charge of the interaction. Show some leadership and tell her what you need and if she can't deliver you move on. It's pretty simple. Too many guys let the girls take charge and that can only lead to disaster. She wants you to visit the club? Fuck that! She wants an advance? See you later! She wants to go slow? My time is valuable (i don't work at the mall like most SBs)!
You get the picture.
HollywoodGuy
05-12-21, 12:57
I met a stripper SB and was wondering about someone's experience with them? Are they pretty transactional like they are in the clubs? Only did a meet and greet last Saturday and meeting again this week for "sugar" supposedly. She sounded like she was promoting her club during m&g telling me to visit her there sometimes but we agreed on an arrangement during the meet.Is she a struggling baby stripper or an experienced pro? Big difference. I agree that strippers are far from my 1st, 2nd or even third choice of SB. Unless she is like 18 or 19 and fresh / new to the scene.
So some sugar daddy posted stories about all of his dates. Must be real cause I have experienced many of the same issues.
www.sugarbaby411.com
I was banned from SA a few years back. SA will never see my money again.
Anyways, I setup a free SA account so I can browse profiles.
Here are the loopholes I used to setup the free profile:
1. Burner phone.
2. Accessed SA, through SA website only, on phone network.
3. No picture.
Free profile worked for over 6 months.
I tried to logon to SA after inactivity of a month. Was informed "Profile was deleted. ".
Deleted due to inactivity or SA deleted because, SA found out I was banned?
FarFarAway
05-13-21, 18:20
I was banned from SA a few years back. SA will never see my money again.
Anyways, I setup a free SA account so I can browse profiles.
Here are the loopholes I used to setup the free profile:
1. Burner phone.
2. Accessed SA, through SA website only, on phone network.
3. No picture.
Free profile worked for over 6 months.
I tried to logon to SA after inactivity of a month. Was informed "Profile was deleted. ".
Deleted due to inactivity or SA deleted because, SA found out I was banned?I'd guess they got tired of you freeloading. And I don't understand the utility of browsing profiles if you are never going to pay to be able to message a girl.
I was banned from SA a few years back. SA will never see my money again.
Anyways, I setup a free SA account so I can browse profiles.
Here are the loopholes I used to setup the free profile:
1. Burner phone.
2. Accessed SA, through SA website only, on phone network.
3. No picture.
Free profile worked for over 6 months.
I tried to logon to SA after inactivity of a month. Was informed "Profile was deleted. ".
Deleted due to inactivity or SA deleted because, SA found out I was banned?
I'd guess they got tired of you freeloading. And I don't understand the utility of browsing profiles if you are never going to pay to be able to message a girl.I've never been banned and have had a free account for a couple of years with no problem. As far as window shopping, I do that with tryst, p411 (Yeah. I pay for that one), and all the sites that have hookers. There's plenty of reasons to cross reference SA without needing to message the chicks.
I've never been banned and have had a free account for a couple of years with no problem. As far as window shopping, I do that with tryst, p411 (Yeah. I pay for that one), and all the sites that have hookers. There's plenty of reasons to cross reference SA without needing to message the chicks.Crooked SA will not let anyone browse profiles without an account.
Main reason I had an SA profile, is so I can view the links posted by seniors on here.
Oh well, interestingly being banned from SA has taught me an interesting lesson on privacy / boundaries / censorship.
I am active in the SB world. And have not been banned from any other SB site.
So some sugar daddy posted stories about all of his dates. Must be real cause I have experienced many of the same issues.
www.sugarbaby411.comIs this a joke?
Didn't read the whole thing but he reports getting scammed repeatadly and paying for M&G. Excellent guide on what NOT to do. Total simp idiot.
HollywoodGuy
05-16-21, 18:11
Is this a joke?
Didn't read the whole thing but he reports getting scammed repeatadly and paying for M&G. Excellent guide on what NOT to do. Total simp idiot.Actually looks kinda fake just based on the pics alone. Didn't bother to read it though.
TheSpius19
05-16-21, 18:23
This one is asking for the new "Golden Ration" of $1 K per meet up, but promises pse with BBFS, etc. Only restriction: no anal.
Now. The photos look WAAAAY TGTBT. But I couldn't get a hit on TinEye or Google Images. Anyone have any intel or experience?
Cheers!
https://www.seeking.com/member/94ab3e21-d108-485e-ac91-29f5961ec523
So. I got ghosted by the stripper chick. Either she changed her mind or was just doing SA to promote the club. I went to check my message and it says user is no longer active, but I can still see the username. Am I blocked or does it still say "sugar baby" when you're blocked?
This one is asking for the new "Golden Ration" of $1 K per meet up, but promises pse with BBFS, etc. Only restriction: no anal.
Now. The photos look WAAAAY TGTBT. But I couldn't get a hit on TinEye or Google Images. Anyone have any intel or experience?
Cheers!
https://www.seeking.com/member/94ab3e21-d108-485e-ac91-29f5961ec523Small world. My previous sugar baby offered me a friend and the picture in blue bikini behind the rocks is what she showed me. I can't promise you who's behind the online acct tho. The sugar baby I was seeing also had a profile that said "no online arrangement. " I've had my suspicions, but I'm starting to believe the sugar babies I've had maybe managed by someone. I'm going to start eyeing accts w/ no online arrangement. I viewed a couple profiles on SA with that wording
TheSpius19
05-16-21, 20:53
Small world. My previous sugar baby offered me a friend and the picture in blue bikini behind the rocks is what she showed me. I can't promise you who's behind the online acct tho. The sugar baby I was seeing also had a profile that said "no online arrangement. " I've had my suspicions, but I'm starting to believe the sugar babies I've had maybe managed by someone. I'm going to start eyeing accts w/ no online arrangement. I viewed a couple profiles on SA with that wordingWas your SugarBaby one that you met? And was SHE real and looked like her photos?
Because if she was pushing this girl, and yours was real, then that would imply better odds that this one is real, too.
Utr pro. Covered only tho. https://www.seeking.com/member/e98ca280-d081-4191-889c-24af14843194.
Was your SugarBaby one that you met? And was SHE real and looked like her photos?
Because if she was pushing this girl, and yours was real, then that would imply better odds that this one is real, too.Yeah, an actual sugar baby I was seeing showed me a pic. She said something pricey and I was like no thanks. The one I had was just as good looking for 4 Benji and bb everything. Never met the girl in the pics tho that's why I'm saying don't quote me. But there is a good possibility it's a real girl.
TempletonRat
05-16-21, 21:06
As a longtime monger who never did the "sugar baby" thing, could you offer a tutorial on how to get in it quick-like?
This one is asking for the new "Golden Ration" of $1 K per meet up, but promises pse with BBFS, etc. Only restriction: no anal.
Now. The photos look WAAAAY TGTBT. But I couldn't get a hit on TinEye or Google Images. Anyone have any intel or experience?
Cheers!
https://www.seeking.com/member/94ab3e21-d108-485e-ac91-29f5961ec523You would spend 1 k on that. ? Why don't you save your money and pick out 5 two hundred dollar an hour hoes and have 500% more fun for 1000% less drama.
Utr pro. Covered only tho. https://www.seeking.com/member/e98ca280-d081-4191-889c-24af14843194.Damage? And Covered BJ as well?
VinoVeritas034
05-17-21, 20:58
Hi gentlemen, making another public service announcement to avoid at all cost SA User Cassidy062. She was gone for a few months but she has returned with a vengeance. I posted on here about her antics before, and you can look at my prior posts and read all the details. She is a scammer of epic proportions, blacklisted on multiple other sites and keeps changing profiles and profile pics like most people change socks. Since her face is obscured in her latest SA profile, I am posting pictures of her here culled from her various profiles so that everyone gets a good look.
Also posting a link to her profile but expect her to pull it shortly. Avoid at all cost.
https://www.seeking.com/member/c2424a37-a2c6-4aec-a37b-30f543fc68d6
TheSpius19
05-18-21, 02:31
You would spend 1 k on that. ? Why don't you save your money and pick out 5 two hundred dollar an hour hoes and have 500% more fun for 1000% less drama.Because some of us: a) have money & b) prefer the culotte from Mastro's instead of the Famous Star with cheese from Carl's Jr.
TheSpius19
05-18-21, 02:36
Utr pro. Covered only tho. https://www.seeking.com/member/e98ca280-d081-4191-889c-24af14843194.She was hitting me up as well. I passed.
This one is in town: CrystalLA25. She's legit, but not worth it.
Nice girl, don't get me wrong. Looks like her photos. TINY spinner stripper with bolt ons that barely move. Staying at an airport near LAX. Does cfs with CBJ for 5 & cfs with BBBJ for 7. Neither is worth it because she's a "Hi! Come in!" (boom, clothes off, sucking your dick, grabbing the rubber, climbing on top, bouncing like a maniac all within 5 minutes) type of girl.
https://www.seeking.com/member/ef44e997-8254-4c8d-99b9-e5bad733ad80
She texted me when she came into town from Vegas (journeyman stripper) and she's basically a pro in sheep's clothing.
She was hitting me up as well. I passed.
This one is in town: CrystalLA25. She's legit, but not worth it.
Nice girl, don't get me wrong. Looks like her photos. TINY spinner stripper with bolt ons that barely move. Staying at an airport near LAX. Does cfs with CBJ for 5 & cfs with BBBJ for 7. Neither is worth it because she's a "Hi! Come in!" (boom, clothes off, sucking your dick, grabbing the rubber, climbing on top, bouncing like a maniac all within 5 minutes) type of girl.
https://www.seeking.com/member/ef44e997-8254-4c8d-99b9-e5bad733ad80
She texted me when she came into town from Vegas (journeyman stripper) and she's basically a pro in sheep's clothing.No thanks. I'll stick to my utr hoes that charge $100-$150. Pussy is pussy, after all. I can't conceive of the notion of blowing 5 benjis for something that lasts 20 minutes. That's like 5 dates with Tina from the Valley.
GoofyPanda
05-18-21, 21:37
You would spend 1 k on that. ? Why don't you save your money and pick out 5 two hundred dollar an hour hoes and have 500% more fun for 1000% less drama.They should teach this in math class.
Because some of us: a) have money & b) prefer the culotte from Mastro's instead of the Famous Star with cheese from Carl's Jr.Had money*, before you spent 1 k on a Famous Star sold to you as a filet mignon. There's a difference between being broke and cheap and being frugal and savvy my friend.
Had money*, before you spent 1 k on a Famous Star sold to you as a filet mignon. There's a difference between being broke and cheap and being frugal and savvy my friend.Her name is Lori and I was seeing her for 1 year before she moved to Miami when Covid struck. We still play whenever she comes back to LA, about twice a year. She is Russian / American. And yes, that is her real, bonefide ass in the pic.
I used to pay her $200 for an hour of complete fun, including anal. She is 5 ft1 and weighs 100 lb. 24 years old. Really really sweet. A complete, fit workout warrior. Bisexual who loves to eat pussy. That is her girlfriend in Miami at the moment. God, what I would give to be in the middle of that. A complete nympho. Needs sex several times a day.
We once fucked for 5 straight hours. Suffice to say I am an old fart at 53, and the next day my body was killing me at work. It got to the point where she began to spend the night, so I bumped it up to $300. She never asked for more money. We saw each other once a week. We still keep in touch.
This is her. Living proof that you don't need to spend 1 k. I believe that is what Hollywood guy always preaches. I admit, she was the proverbial unicorn. Extremely difficult, but not Impossible to replace.
HollywoodGuy
05-19-21, 13:43
Being the moderator I just thought I would add my 2 cents. At 1k per visit I guess we can all agree that we could rent any girl, or at least 97% of what's out there for that price. But if you remember, Heidi's girls started at 2k per meet up. And an associate of mine that used to own one of the larger escort platforms told me that 5k - 20k charges were not unusual.
While I originally started this thread to share tips and tricks on how to increase game (i.e. - get the most bang for your buck), there have never been any restrictions as to the type of posts that can be shared (with the exception of underage girls, direct contact info like phone #'s and email addresses, or anything the site admin may deem to be in violation of their terms of service). And pictures are always welcome.
Everyone has a type of girl and a methodology for acquiring them that meets their comfort zone. And that will vary as much as the girls available and the guys that appreciate them. Inherently there really is no right or wrong way to go about this as long as your wallet, your health and your legal standing are not being compromised in any way that would be considered detrimental to your general well being.
For the new guys, just remember, you don't have to be rich to play in this game. You just need some disposable income, whatever that may be, to partake. This thread is just a buffet table of advice. Pick up what's palatable / doable and leave the rest. The opinions shared here do not necessarily reflect those of the moderator, but respectfully, all are welcome.
Being the moderator I just thought I would add my 2 cents. At 1k per visit I guess we can all agree that we could rent any girl, or at least 97% of what's out there for that price. But if you remember, Heidi's girls started at 2k per meet up. And an associate of mine that used to own one of the larger escort platforms told me that 5k - 20k charges were not unusual.
While I originally started this thread to share tips and tricks on how to increase game (i.e. - get the most bang for your buck), there have never been any restrictions as to the type of posts that can be shared (with the exception of underage girls, direct contact info like phone #'s and email addresses, or anything the site admin may deem to be in violation of their terms of service). And pictures are always welcome.
Everyone has a type of girl and a methodology for acquiring them that meets their comfort zone. And that will vary as much as the girls available and the guys that appreciate them. Inherently there really is no right or wrong way to go about this as long as your wallet, your health and your legal standing are not being compromised in any way that would be considered detrimental to your general well being.
For the new guys, just remember, you don't have to be rich to play in this game. You just need some disposable income, whatever that may be, to partake. This thread is just a buffet table of advice. Pick up what's palatable / doable and leave the rest. The opinions shared here do not necessarily reflect those of the moderator, but respectfully, all are welcome.Everyone always seems to have a hissy-fit when another guy pays an amount they wouldn't. I look at it like BBFS. Your dick, your business. Your money, your business.
I might propose that $40-60 is the range for a happy ending at AMPs, but I still don't get upset if they want to pay $200 because it's none of my business.
For one guy, spending $200 might have the same fiscal impact as another spending $20.
FirstClass1
05-19-21, 15:47
Being the moderator I just thought I would add my 2 cents. At 1k per visit I guess we can all agree that we could rent any girl, or at least 97% of what's out there for that price. But if you remember, Heidi's girls started at 2k per meet up. And an associate of mine that used to own one of the larger escort platforms told me that 5k - 20k charges were not unusual.
While I originally started this thread to share tips and tricks on how to increase game (i.e. - get the most bang for your buck), there have never been any restrictions as to the type of posts that can be shared (with the exception of underage girls, direct contact info like phone #'s and email addresses, or anything the site admin may deem to be in violation of their terms of service). And pictures are always welcome.Well said, HG.
Everyone has different philosophies about what they're looking for, and different approaches. It is up to us to adapt what we get from these threads and forums to our own pursuits. Some guys believe "pussy is pussy," and seriously believe a crack *** in Skid Row who bathes once a month is just as pleasurable and appealing as a gorgeous model or cute spinner who is clean, fresh and healthy. So long as they're $200 or less. Their budgets are their main concern.
I and a few other guys here DO believe there is a fundamental difference between an extra loose, yeasty, smelly and a tight, juicy, fragrant, sweet tasting pussy. We prize quality more than quantity. Whether we get a great bargain, or throw down a bit more coin within our means, it is quality we're after.
The irony is that the same guys who drag someone for sharing a 1 k tryst with a hot young model type are also bragging about their homeless GILFs in other threads.
Domino's example is by his own admission an outlier. If I had come across her first, I likely would have flown her to me all expenses paid over the past year and filled up all her holes every other week. That being said, I have also had girls who asked for substantial amounts at the beginning, who in subsequent dates would go down to nothing or next to nothing, once they began to enjoy my company more than my resources.
In the end, as long as you're satisfied with what you got, and are keeping healthy, you are doing just fine. Happy hunting, guys.
For laughs, I emailed SA customer service asking why my account was deleted.
SA Responsed: We found out you were banned for soliciting. You are banned for life from all SA related sites.
So SA tracks mobile phone signatures. Using a burner phone, mobile network, DuckDuckGo Browser will not hide you.
This is the movie "Matrix" like scenario. You are being watched at all times.
Thankfully, SA does not have a monopoly on the SB world.
I'd guess they got tired of you freeloading. And I don't understand the utility of browsing profiles if you are never going to pay to be able to message a girl.
For laughs, I emailed SA customer service asking why my account was deleted.
SA Responsed: We found out you were banned for soliciting. You are banned for life from all SA related sites.
So SA tracks mobile phone signatures. Using a burner phone, mobile network, DuckDuckGo Browser will not hide you.
This is the movie "Matrix" like scenario. You are being watched at all times.
Thankfully, SA does not have a monopoly on the SB world.I also was also banned recently and got the same message! Any slick way to re-join?
For laughs, I emailed SA customer service asking why my account was deleted.
SA Responsed: We found out you were banned for soliciting. You are banned for life from all SA related sites.
So SA tracks mobile phone signatures. Using a burner phone, mobile network, DuckDuckGo Browser will not hide you.
This is the movie "Matrix" like scenario. You are being watched at all times.
Thankfully, SA does not have a monopoly on the SB world.There is no "mobile phone signature", unless you use an app. If you are in your phones browser the only thing it could use is cookies or session data so you just make sure that that is totally cleared. But more than likely they simply track IP addresses.
This can easily be dodged by just using mobile data (no wifi) on your phone (again, only use browser not app), or just get a vpn and you can browse on your computer. You also need to use completely unique data when signing up and, from what I've heard on here, even use unique photos you have never uploaded to your previously banned account.
PussyDestroyr
05-21-21, 02:07
For laughs, I emailed SA customer service asking why my account was deleted.
SA Responsed: We found out you were banned for soliciting. You are banned for life from all SA related sites.
So SA tracks mobile phone signatures. Using a burner phone, mobile network, DuckDuckGo Browser will not hide you.
This is the movie "Matrix" like scenario. You are being watched at all times.
Thankfully, SA does not have a monopoly on the SB world.I'm sloppy and talk about ppm, bareback, all kinds of shit. I never get banned.
FirstClass1
05-21-21, 02:46
I'm sloppy and talk about ppm, bareback, all kinds of shit. I never get banned.The guys that do as you're doing risk getting banned sooner or later, and are often reported by salty SBs. The site has gotten much more strict about this since FOSTA, to cover their ass.
It's better to take the convo offsite as soon as you can, and use more neutral terms like "mutually beneficial" or "friends with benefits" at the beginning of the conversation. The site can't ding you for these terms, as they use them themselves.
Once you've established that the girl is DTF, you can begin to text more openly.
I'm sloppy and talk about ppm, bareback, all kinds of shit. I never get banned.Be careful, I did that for 6 months before I got banned. And I was a premium paying member.
SunMoonStars11
05-21-21, 03:35
This is the biggest L of all time. I really cannot stres that enough but I will tell the story so that it may help some of you.
Met her at a hotel. She comes to get me. She's not quite as attractive as her pics but good enough. We go to her room and her friend is there (who is WAY hotter). They are very interested in getting the sugar before we get down to business but they seem cool. Soon as I send the sugar via one of the various apps, the hot friend gets on the phone pretending to be freaked out because her bf / pimp is mad. They ask me to leave. I don't know what's going on and I am kind of buzzed so I leave. I call / text her and she says that he says you can stay if you send more sugar. I say no. She says I can come by the next day. I think you can guess that she didn't see me. I was mad bc it was not an insignificant amount of sugar by I take the L and move one.
Fast forward to today, I message someone on SA who claims to be clairemaddoxx on twitter and the porn star Violet Smith. Things seem to be going smoothly. Before I leave she asks if I want to hang out with her and her friend. I ask for pics of her friend and it turns out to be the chick who scammed me a few weeks ago! I say don't want to play with her. My plan was to confront her when I got there but it didn't turn out that way. She sends me the address which is a sketchy hotel in LA. I get to the room and it looks like the girl on SA and twitter. We talk for a while and she seems REALLY cool. She tells me she is in town on vacation and even tells me some heavy personal stuff. After talking for a while I abandons my plan because I figure she can't be that much of a scum bag to tell me that and then scam me. I send her the agreed upon sugar. She has problems with the sugar but it does go through. She can't transfer the sugar so she asks me to send it again via ANOTHER app and she will send the first sugar back. So, like an idiot, I send it BEFORE she sends me back the other payment. After both go through she says she needs to go to the bathroom. Guess who is in there? The chick who scammed me a few weeks ago. As I realize that I am a complete moron, some skinny, non desript white guy casually comes in the room. "Hello" I say. He says hello back. He proceeds to calmly tell me that I need to leave because they don't want me here anymore. At this point, I am stunned at how ruthless these people are and at how perfectly I got played. Initially, I say "what if I don't leave". He says, "Well we will deal with that if it comes to that". At this point, I honestly considered doing something I might regret to this guy. I am much bigger and stronger than this guy and was absolutely certain he could not hurt me whatsoever. I am trying to figure out if I can do something, other than getting into a physical altercation, that would cause them some sort of pain. The chick whom I was supposed to hang out with left her purse on the bed so I picked it up. At this point, the guy and the chick who scammed me previously seemed to panic a little. "It's nothing in there!" she says. I motion towards the door and the skinny white guy tries to put me in a full-nelson and I kid you not, it felt like a child trying to grab me. Now, at this point I realize that I really don't want to escalate this any further so I just throw the purse across the room, tell them that they are pieces of shit and leave. Needless to say I feel like a complete idiot but it was completely my fault. I should have known that was going to happen once I found out the previous scammer was involved but this is what happens when the little head thinks for the big head. That being said, these people ungodly pieces of shit. I sincerely hope they try this on the wrong person one day.
Now, I have had GREAT success on SA but I also have been scammed before. However, I had never encountered scammers who went this far. Never. Scammers usually don't try this hard but these people were professionals. The scammer's name is Valerie by the way and she is most likely middle eastern with a flabby body. The other chick told me her full name but who knows if it was real but also I don't want to go against the rules of the board. Again, the thing that still makes me mad and amazes me is how organized they were. They really have a game and it works beautifully on nice, well-to-do guys like me.
I did learn more lessons though. The first is, don't be greedy and constantly look for new blood. I actually know enough women where I don't really need to be on the site as much as I am.
The second is, be careful using the site like an alternative to HX. While you can do this, you are opening up yourself to be scammed because SA is an unlimited source of targets. As you can see.
Also, at a certain point I learned to trust my gut. If they display scammer behavior, then they are probably a scammer. If not, still better to find someone who you don't have to wonder about. Clearly I didn't take my own advice tonight.
Lastly, if you ever find yourself in a situation like I was in tonight, just take the L and move on. You can always make more sugar. No need to get into an altercation over piece of shit scammers.
There is no "mobile phone signature", unless you use an app. If you are in your phones browser the only thing it could use is cookies or session data so you just make sure that that is totally cleared. But more than likely they simply track IP addresses.
This can easily be dodged by just using mobile data (no wifi) on your phone (again, only use browser not app), or just get a vpn and you can browse on your computer. You also need to use completely unique data when signing up and, from what I've heard on here, even use unique photos you have never uploaded to your previously banned account.Regarding the phone stuff, they are likely integrated with something like Twilio which returns the info and carrier on a number. They have an API integration that checks during signup. Go try signing up for a google account with a texting app number. Usually won't fly.
Lookup: Carrier and Caller Name - Twilio (https://www.twilio.com/docs/lookup/tutorials/carrier-and-caller-name)
Regarding the phone stuff, they are likely integrated with something like Twilio which returns the info and carrier on a number. They have an API integration that checks during signup. Go try signing up for a google account with a texting app number. Usually won't fly.
Lookup: Carrier and Caller Name - Twilio (https://www.twilio.com/docs/lookup/tutorials/carrier-and-caller-name)If they have your number then they probably (almost certainly) have that in their system and don't need to use twilio to look up your caller info or name. Even if they did is irrelevant, they need your number, which they can't just grab when you're using a browser sign up. You have to GIVE it to them by putting it your signup step, which is a nono. You can literally just put a fake number they don't do anything like 2 fa.
If they have your number then they probably (almost certainly) have that in their system and don't need to use twilio to look up your caller info or name. Even if they did is irrelevant, they need your number, which they can't just grab when you're using a browser sign up. You have to GIVE it to them by putting it your signup step, which is a nono. You can literally just put a fake number they don't do anything like 2 fa.Sure. I thought we were talking about people trying to get a new account after being banned. What sort of idiot would use the same number they were banned under?
Justn Beaver
05-21-21, 12:02
This is the biggest L of all time. I really cannot stres that enough but I will tell the story so that it may help some of you.
Met her at a hotel. She comes to get me. She's not quite as attractive as her pics but good enough. We go to her room and her friend is there (who is WAY hotter). They are very interested in getting the sugar before we get down to business but they seem cool. Soon as I send the sugar via one of the various apps, the hot friend gets on the phone pretending to be freaked out because her bf / pimp is mad. They ask me to leave. I don't know what's going on and I am kind of buzzed so I leave. I call / text her and she says that he says you can stay if you send more sugar. I say no. She says I can come by the next day. I think you can guess that she didn't see me. I was mad bc it was not an insignificant amount of sugar by I take the L and move one.
Fast forward to today, I message someone on SA who claims to be clairemaddoxx on twitter and the porn star Violet Smith. Things seem to be going smoothly. Before I leave she asks if I want to hang out with her and her friend. I ask for pics of her friend and it turns out to be the chick who scammed me a few weeks ago! I say don't want to play with her. My plan was to confront her when I got there but it didn't turn out that way. She sends me the address which is a sketchy hotel in LA. I get to the room and it looks like the girl on SA and twitter. We talk for a while and she seems REALLY cool. She tells me she is in town on vacation and even tells me some heavy personal stuff. After talking for a while I abandons my plan because I figure she can't be that much of a scum bag to tell me that and then scam me. I send her the agreed upon sugar. She has problems with the sugar but it does go through. She can't transfer the sugar so she asks me to send it again via ANOTHER app and she will send the first sugar back. So, like an idiot, I send it BEFORE she sends me back the other payment. After both go through she says she needs to go to the bathroom. Guess who is in there? The chick who scammed me a few weeks ago. As I realize that I am a complete moron, some skinny, non desript white guy casually comes in the room. "Hello" I say. He says hello back. He proceeds to calmly tell me that I need to leave because they don't want me here anymore. At this point, I am stunned at how ruthless these people are and at how perfectly I got played. Initially, I say "what if I don't leave". He says, "Well we will deal with that if it comes to that". At this point, I honestly considered doing something I might regret to this guy. I am much bigger and stronger than this guy and was absolutely certain he could not hurt me whatsoever. I am trying to figure out if I can do something, other than getting into a physical altercation, that would cause them some sort of pain. The chick whom I was supposed to hang out with left her purse on the bed so I picked it up. At this point, the guy and the chick who scammed me previously seemed to panic a little. "It's nothing in there!" she says. I motion towards the door and the skinny white guy tries to put me in a full-nelson and I kid you not, it felt like a child trying to grab me. Now, at this point I realize that I really don't want to escalate this any further so I just throw the purse across the room, tell them that they are pieces of shit and leave. Needless to say I feel like a complete idiot but it was completely my fault. I should have known that was going to happen once I found out the previous scammer was involved but this is what happens when the little head thinks for the big head. That being said, these people ungodly pieces of shit. I sincerely hope they try this on the wrong person one day..Hey guys,
I always wonder why people still use sites like SA and such since those types of sites destroyed the real non-pro world that flourished not to long ago of course that was also before every woman with a camera on her phone could post pictures on Instagram and delude herself that she was a model, LOL. The worst ones are now that most girls are fatties or have sleeve tats that scare poop out of me or pink and blue hair with 15 years of college and no employable skills. That is why the best place to pick up an eager beaver honey pot is at the retail outlets. Now a days there are not many shoppers and you can walk in and the cute workers come to you like you are a nectar filled flower. It is easy to say your shopping for a friend's birthday and strike up a conversation to get her to model and say some cheerful stuff about how she is so helpful and fun. Then just suggest you would like to buy her an item for her help while leaving your card and ask to meet on her off-time while you are in town frequently and suggest something that might make her think that she may get more than $15 for her time.
Sorry for your terrible experience and maybe this will help get you something more worthy of your decent behavior and understanding that there is a chronic systemic problem of dumb desperate people praying on regulars. Retail is really easy to do but you can browse and practice very easy like and I hope this is helpful.
Justn Beaver.
This is the biggest L of all time. I really cannot stres that enough but I will tell the story so that it may help some of you.
Met her at a hotel. She comes to get me. She's not quite as attractive as her pics but good enough. We go to her room and her friend is there (who is WAY hotter). They are very interested in getting the sugar before we get down to business but they seem cool. Soon as I send the sugar via one of the various apps, the hot friend gets on the phone pretending to be freaked out because her bf / pimp is mad. They ask me to leave. I don't know what's going on and I am kind of buzzed so I leave. I call / text her and she says that he says you can stay if you send more sugar. I say no. She says I can come by the next day. I think you can guess that she didn't see me. I was mad bc it was not an insignificant amount of sugar by I take the L and move one.
Fast forward to today, I message someone on SA who claims to be clairemaddoxx on twitter and the porn star Violet Smith. Things seem to be going smoothly. Before I leave she asks if I want to hang out with her and her friend. I ask for pics of her friend and it turns out to be the chick who scammed me a few weeks ago! I say don't want to play with her. My plan was to confront her when I got there but it didn't turn out that way. She sends me the address which is a sketchy hotel in LA. I get to the room and it looks like the girl on SA and twitter. We talk for a while and she seems REALLY cool. She tells me she is in town on vacation and even tells me some heavy personal stuff. After talking for a while I abandons my plan because I figure she can't be that much of a scum bag to tell me that and then scam me. I send her the agreed upon sugar. She has problems with the sugar but it does go through. She can't transfer the sugar so she asks me to send it again via ANOTHER app and she will send the first sugar back. So, like an idiot, I send it BEFORE she sends me back the other payment. After both go through she says she needs to go to the bathroom. Guess who is in there? The chick who scammed me a few weeks ago. As I realize that I am a complete moron, some skinny, non desript white guy casually comes in the room. "Hello" I say. He says hello back. He proceeds to calmly tell me that I need to leave because they don't want me here anymore. At this point, I am stunned at how ruthless these people are and at how perfectly I got played. Initially, I say "what if I don't leave". He says, "Well we will deal with that if it comes to that". At this point, I honestly considered doing something I might regret to this guy. I am much bigger and stronger than this guy and was absolutely certain he could not hurt me whatsoever. I am trying to figure out if I can do something, other than getting into a physical altercation, that would cause them some sort of pain. The chick whom I was supposed to hang out with left her purse on the bed so I picked it up. At this point, the guy and the chick who scammed me previously seemed to panic a little. "It's nothing in there!" she says. I motion towards the door and the skinny white guy tries to put me in a full-nelson and I kid you not, it felt like a child trying to grab me. Now, at this point I realize that I really don't want to escalate this any further so I just throw the purse across the room, tell them that they are pieces of shit and leave. Needless to say I feel like a complete idiot but it was completely my fault. I should have known that was going to happen once I found out the previous scammer was involved but this is what happens when the little head thinks for the big head. That being said, these people ungodly pieces of shit. I sincerely hope they try this on the wrong person one day.
Now, I have had GREAT success on SA but I also have been scammed before. However, I had never encountered scammers who went this far. Never. Scammers usually don't try this hard but these people were professionals. The scammer's name is Valerie by the way and she is most likely middle eastern with a flabby body. The other chick told me her full name but who knows if it was real but also I don't want to go against the rules of the board. Again, the thing that still makes me mad and amazes me is how organized they were. They really have a game and it works beautifully on nice, well-to-do guys like me.
I did learn more lessons though. The first is, don't be greedy and constantly look for new blood. I actually know enough women where I don't really need to be on the site as much as I am.
The second is, be careful using the site like an alternative to HX. While you can do this, you are opening up yourself to be scammed because SA is an unlimited source of targets. As you can see.
Also, at a certain point I learned to trust my gut. If they display scammer behavior, then they are probably a scammer. If not, still better to find someone who you don't have to wonder about. Clearly I didn't take my own advice tonight.
Lastly, if you ever find yourself in a situation like I was in tonight, just take the L and move on. You can always make more sugar. No need to get into an altercation over piece of shit scammers.You display. You are not a fucking child. Act accordingly. My feelings are that you are not built for this game. You seem to lack the general self-awareness and tact that will help you stay out of these situations. Furthermore, you seem to roll over quite easily.
I stopped reading after the 2nd encounter. It's people like you that screw up the entire thing. You are meeting a sugar baby in a sketchy motel. ? That in itself is the mother-fucking, gigantic Russian red flag of 'let me get the fuck out of here'.
As your penace I want you to write on a blackboard the following sentence:
I WILL NOT BE A SIMP.
I WILL NOT BE A SIMP.
I WILL NOT BE A SIMP.
Keep writing until it sinks in.
Or better yet, can I send you my cash app?
SunMoonStars11
05-21-21, 17:20
I deserve all of that. Like I said, it was ll my fault.
I deserve all of that. Like I said, it was ll my fault.Welp, we all are driven by the wrong head sometimes.
PriscillaM
05-21-21, 20:56
This is the biggest L of all time. I really cannot stres that enough but I will tell the story so that it may help some of you.
Met her at a hotel. She comes to get me. She's not quite as attractive as her pics but good enough. We go to her room and her friend is there (who is WAY hotter). They are very interested in getting the sugar before we get down to business but they seem cool. Soon as I send the sugar via one of the various apps, the hot friend gets on the phone pretending to be freaked out because her bf / pimp is mad. They ask me to leave. I don't know what's going on and I am kind of buzzed so I leave. I call / text her and she says that he says you can stay if you send more sugar. I say no. She says I can come by the next day. I think you can guess that she didn't see me. I was mad bc it was not an insignificant amount of sugar by I take the L and move one.
Fast forward to today, I message someone on SA who claims to be clairemaddoxx on twitter and the porn star Violet Smith. Things seem to be going smoothly. Before I leave she asks if I want to hang out with her and her friend. I ask for pics of her friend and it turns out to be the chick who scammed me a few weeks ago! I say don't want to play with her. My plan was to confront her when I got there but it didn't turn out that way. She sends me the address which is a sketchy hotel in LA. I get to the room and it looks like the girl on SA and twitter. We talk for a while and she seems REALLY cool. She tells me she is in town on vacation and even tells me some heavy personal stuff. After talking for a while I abandons my plan because I figure she can't be that much of a scum bag to tell me that and then scam me. I send her the agreed upon sugar. She has problems with the sugar but it does go through. She can't transfer the sugar so she asks me to send it again via ANOTHER app and she will send the first sugar back. So, like an idiot, I send it BEFORE she sends me back the other payment. After both go through she says she needs to go to the bathroom. Guess who is in there? The chick who scammed me a few weeks ago. As I realize that I am a complete moron, some skinny, non desript white guy casually comes in the room. "Hello" I say. He says hello back. He proceeds to calmly tell me that I need to leave because they don't want me here anymore. At this point, I am stunned at how ruthless these people are and at how perfectly I got played. Initially, I say "what if I don't leave". He says, "Well we will deal with that if it comes to that". At this point, I honestly considered doing something I might regret to this guy. I am much bigger and stronger than this guy and was absolutely certain he could not hurt me whatsoever. I am trying to figure out if I can do something, other than getting into a physical altercation, that would cause them some sort of pain. The chick whom I was supposed to hang out with left her purse on the bed so I picked it up. At this point, the guy and the chick who scammed me previously seemed to panic a little. "It's nothing in there!" she says. I motion towards the door and the skinny white guy tries to put me in a full-nelson and I kid you not, it felt like a child trying to grab me. Now, at this point I realize that I really don't want to escalate this any further so I just throw the purse across the room, tell them that they are pieces of shit and leave. Needless to say I feel like a complete idiot but it was completely my fault. I should have known that was going to happen once I found out the previous scammer was involved but this is what happens when the little head thinks for the big head. That being said, these people ungodly pieces of shit. I sincerely hope they try this on the wrong person one day.
Now, I have had GREAT success on SA but I also have been scammed before. However, I had never encountered scammers who went this far. Never. Scammers usually don't try this hard but these people were professionals. The scammer's name is Valerie by the way and she is most likely middle eastern with a flabby body. The other chick told me her full name but who knows if it was real but also I don't want to go against the rules of the board. Again, the thing that still makes me mad and amazes me is how organized they were. They really have a game and it works beautifully on nice, well-to-do guys like me.
I did learn more lessons though. The first is, don't be greedy and constantly look for new blood. I actually know enough women where I don't really need to be on the site as much as I am.
The second is, be careful using the site like an alternative to HX. While you can do this, you are opening up yourself to be scammed because SA is an unlimited source of targets. As you can see.
Also, at a certain point I learned to trust my gut. If they display scammer behavior, then they are probably a scammer. If not, still better to find someone who you don't have to wonder about. Clearly I didn't take my own advice tonight.
Lastly, if you ever find yourself in a situation like I was in tonight, just take the L and move on. You can always make more sugar. No need to get into an altercation over piece of shit scammers.I simply cannot believe even half of this. I curse my very existence because I got scammed once by a girl in fucken spokane. She took my money in the front yard and actually ran away. This was years ago an I outran her and I successfully got her to allow me in her room. She disappeared inside to get some stuff. So I stole her license and other personal stuff and left. She got me for 140 and I never did that type of situation again. But come on man. Going to a motel for an SA girl? Cash apping them in the room twice. Jesus fuck.
I deserve all of that. Like I said, it was ll my fault.In the second no-tell motel you met a girl, who showed you a picture of a girl, who happened to be the girl that scammed you the first time, and you proceeded to not only.
Entertain the idea of seeing them both, but you cash apped her some money, knowing that they were definitely working in tandem and would do the same thing again.
Instead of just saying, "I'm out of here. " Then drive to the nearest pay phone and place a fake gun call to get them Swatted.
Instead you paid up like Uncle Fester.
Do us all a favor. Get the fuck off this board. Your stupidity might be contagious to some.
TheSpius19
05-21-21, 22:15
No thanks. I'll stick to my utr hoes that charge $100-$150. Pussy is pussy, after all. I can't conceive of the notion of blowing 5 benjis for something that lasts 20 minutes. That's like 5 dates with Tina from the Valley.#1 - to me, all pussy is NOT created equally.
#2 - I don't know about you, but it lasts a whole hell of a lot longer than 20 minutes. My last 1 K date lasted about 5 hours & included 3 glorious rounds of BBFS with a ridiculous 5'11" model from Belgium.
Just sayin'.
TheSpius19
05-21-21, 22:18
Had money*, before you spent 1 k on a Famous Star sold to you as a filet mignon. There's a difference between being broke and cheap and being frugal and savvy my friend.I mean. You can keep telling yourself that if it makes you feel better, but the simple truth is that you and I are fishing in different waters for different prizes, my friend.
TheSpius19
05-21-21, 22:20
Her name is Lori and I was seeing her for 1 year before she moved to Miami when Covid struck. We still play whenever she comes back to LA, about twice a year. She is Russian / American. And yes, that is her real, bonefide ass in the pic.
I used to pay her $200 for an hour of complete fun, including anal. She is 5 ft1 and weighs 100 lb. 24 years old. Really really sweet. A complete, fit workout warrior. Bisexual who loves to eat pussy. That is her girlfriend in Miami at the moment. God, what I would give to be in the middle of that. A complete nympho. Needs sex several times a day.
We once fucked for 5 straight hours. Suffice to say I am an old fart at 53, and the next day my body was killing me at work. It got to the point where she began to spend the night, so I bumped it up to $300. She never asked for more money. We saw each other once a week. We still keep in touch.
This is her. Living proof that you don't need to spend 1 k. I believe that is what Hollywood guy always preaches. I admit, she was the proverbial unicorn. Extremely difficult, but not Impossible to replace.She's very cute. No doubt. And at 200/300 you certainly HAVE found a unicorn. No denying that.
But she's not what I'm talking about, my man.
TheSpius19
05-21-21, 22:23
Being the moderator I just thought I would add my 2 cents. At 1k per visit I guess we can all agree that we could rent any girl, or at least 97% of what's out there for that price. But if you remember, Heidi's girls started at 2k per meet up. And an associate of mine that used to own one of the larger escort platforms told me that 5k - 20k charges were not unusual.
While I originally started this thread to share tips and tricks on how to increase game (i.e. - get the most bang for your buck), there have never been any restrictions as to the type of posts that can be shared (with the exception of underage girls, direct contact info like phone #'s and email addresses, or anything the site admin may deem to be in violation of their terms of service). And pictures are always welcome.
Everyone has a type of girl and a methodology for acquiring them that meets their comfort zone. And that will vary as much as the girls available and the guys that appreciate them. Inherently there really is no right or wrong way to go about this as long as your wallet, your health and your legal standing are not being compromised in any way that would be considered detrimental to your general well being.
For the new guys, just remember, you don't have to be rich to play in this game. You just need some disposable income, whatever that may be, to partake. This thread is just a buffet table of advice. Pick up what's palatable / doable and leave the rest. The opinions shared here do not necessarily reflect those of the moderator, but respectfully, all are welcome.That's really all I'm sayin'.
Different mongers seek different things.
When I'm looking for lower end /300-ish range, I usually just save the headache and head to a KGirl service since it's guaranteed and quality.
But I, PERSONALLY, just like to use SA to find the higher-end models who don't know any better.
And when I'm REALLY feeling salty I go to my go-tos for Porn Stars and crack in between 1. 5 and 3 k per.
TheSpius19
05-21-21, 22:25
everyone always seems to have a hissy-fit when another guy pays an amount they wouldn't. I look at it like bbfs. Your dick, your business. Your money, your business.
I might propose that $40-60 is the range for a happy ending at amps, but i still don't get upset if they want to pay $200 because it's none of my business.
For one guy, spending $200 might have the same fiscal impact as another spending $20.this. This. This.
#1 - to me, all pussy is NOT created equally.
#2 - I don't know about you, but it lasts a whole hell of a lot longer than 20 minutes. My last 1 K date lasted about 5 hours & included 3 glorious rounds of BBFS with a ridiculous 5'11" model from Belgium.
Just sayin'.And that's what I'm saying.
Alkalinedio
05-21-21, 22:54
Sucks that happened to you, but damn.
Just me personally, I would never ever, meet a girl in a room that already spells pro (to me, that's just me).
I had a interesting experience last week met a girl on SA and late night texting first day of emails I said let's meet, she says when I said now! It was 1130 pm, she says ok I'm down.
24 yr old latina, I drive to near Pasadena, she lives with her BF and has a 2nd boyfriend (whatever!) no money discussed at all, just horny talk. I get there, scoop her up, she's cute but a little softer than her pics, little flab. I spotted some dark streets on way to hers and we double backed to a darkkkkkk street with trees it was almost black as night. I put up my sun shades on all 4 windows the rest are tinted. Boom I start to make out with her and feel her up, then she kills it. She said, where's the money? I said I got some, I'll give you after, she says no, that's now how this works (LMFAO, STFU) I said to you maybe? Who's to say I hand it over and you bolt out of my car. Long story short this went on for maybe 2 mins, told her I'm not cheap and I've met a few girls and you're the first one demanding money up front. I showed it to her, then back in my pocket and we were at a stalemate. By this time, my boner was done and I could feel it was going to go south. So, I said you know what? Let's just call it and I'll drop you off, I'm not budging neither are you, no hard feelings. That was it, dropped her off and split. My gut was saying if she wasn't going to run, then maybe something else like covered everything, or she can't fxxx for this or that reason. So, close call of what I think was a semi scam I just said we're done here. Clearly she was a little pro too.
Sharing my semi scam here too, happens to us all but fxxx her she ain't getting my cash up front.
Stay safe.
AD.
I simply cannot believe even half of this. I curse my very existence because I got scammed once by a girl in fucken spokane. She took my money in the front yard and actually ran away. This was years ago an I outran her and I successfully got her to allow me in her room. She disappeared inside to get some stuff. So I stole her license and other personal stuff and left. She got me for 140 and I never did that type of situation again. But come on man. Going to a motel for an SA girl? Cash apping them in the room twice. Jesus fuck.
HollywoodGuy
05-22-21, 00:33
Be careful, I did that for 6 months before I got banned. And I was a premium paying member.In 10 years I have never been banned. And I have definitely talked some shit. I am convinced that the girls that report are the SB wannabees. The girls that are truly DTF don't get that riled up by low offers or the suggestion of any sex that may not be on the menu. Its the I will never have sex for money girls, the girls that really shouldn't be on there in the first place, the ones looking for that unicorn daddy that's just looking for a modern day geisha girl. Just my 2 cents.
HollywoodGuy
05-22-21, 00:36
This is the biggest L of all time. I really cannot stres that enough but I will tell the story so that it may help some of you.
Met her at a hotel. She comes to get me. She's not quite as attractive as her pics but good enough. We go to her room and her friend is there (who is WAY hotter). They are very interested in getting the sugar before we get down to business but they seem cool. Soon as I send the sugar via one of the various apps, the hot friend gets on the phone pretending to be freaked out because her bf / pimp is mad. I stopped reading at this sentence. You paid in advance. Nothing more needs to be said. Handle them like SB's and walk if they dont like it. Red flag. Never pay in advance and never let them choose the location.
I stopped reading at this sentence. You paid in advance. Nothing more needs to be said. Handle them like SB's and walk if they dont like it. Red flag. Never pay in advance and never let them choose the location.This is the most practical and useful advice I've heard so far. Listen to HWG. He knows.
Sucks that happened to you, but damn.
Just me personally, I would never ever, meet a girl in a room that already spells pro (to me, that's just me).
I had a interesting experience last week met a girl on SA and late night texting first day of emails I said let's meet, she says when I said now! It was 1130 pm, she says ok I'm down.
24 yr old latina, I drive to near Pasadena, she lives with her BF and has a 2nd boyfriend (whatever!) no money discussed at all, just horny talk. I get there, scoop her up, she's cute but a little softer than her pics, little flab. I spotted some dark streets on way to hers and we double backed to a darkkkkkk street with trees it was almost black as night. I put up my sun shades on all 4 windows the rest are tinted. Boom I start to make out with her and feel her up, then she kills it. She said, where's the money? I said I got some, I'll give you after, she says no, that's now how this works (LMFAO, STFU) I said to you maybe? Who's to say I hand it over and you bolt out of my car. Long story short this went on for maybe 2 mins, told her I'm not cheap and I've met a few girls and you're the first one demanding money up front. I showed it to her, then back in my pocket and we were at a stalemate. By this time, my boner was done and I could feel it was going to go south. So, I said you know what? Let's just call it and I'll drop you off, I'm not budging neither are you, no hard feelings. That was it, dropped her off and split. My gut was saying if she wasn't going to run, then maybe something else like covered everything, or she can't fxxx for this or that reason. So, close call of what I think was a semi scam I just said we're done here. Clearly she was a little pro too.
Sharing my semi scam here too, happens to us all but fxxx her she ain't getting my cash up front.
Stay safe.
AD.And got the hell out of there with your money. Guys don't realize that not getting laid on that particular moment is not the worst thing. I'll tell you a story of what happened to me back in 2004; when I was still in my 30's.
I met this girl on craigs. I drove up to ft Lauderdale from Miami to see her. She texts me and directs me to a street corner in a residential neighborhood. Probably tantamount to what Inglewood was in the 80's. I'm like, ok. So, I turn the corner and she is standing there, right next to a stop sign. It is pitch black outside. She leans up against my car and asks for the money after I tell her to get in. She replies. "first give me the money, and then I will get in. ' strike one.
I ask her where we're going, she says she will meet me there after I pay her. Some shady story of how she can't be seen getting out of the same car with an older man (she was 19, maybe 20). Strike 2. I told her, 'wow, you had me drive 30 miles north just to try and scam me. ' she looked and me, shrugged and got in. We drove to the house she was staying at. I parked and went inside, and there was no more mention of money. I ended up fucking her in the backyard on the tile barbecue grill.
We ended up hooking up 3 or 4 more times. But she ended up confiding in me and told me that she was, in fact, going to scam me that very first night. In fact, she told me she had already done it to three other guys before me. So, I was the 4th. Which meant she made $300 for putting in no work.
They learn early, these scammers, is what I'm trying to say. Once they get a taste for success and realize there are so many SIMPS out there to pray on, they will never stop. You are simply one of many marks. They will never abandon the hustle because to them it is a game. excitement, The exact same thing we feel hunting down hookers on the Fig or any other track. The thrill of the chase.
The guy that got scammed twice in a motel room, by the same girl, no doubt, deserves neither condolences or banal inspirational quotes like "it's ok, you'll get 'em next time." he simply is not built for the game because he lacks situational awareness and common sense. He should just get married and deal with one slice of pie for the rest of his life.
I sound like a harsh motherfucker, but I always trust my instincts. Sure I've had bad service after paying, that is part of the game. But I've never been truly ripped off like this guy.
Alkalinedio
05-22-21, 11:44
Good one and you smelled her BS right off the bat and still smashed it.
I agree they will try and get away with it when they can. I looked at it like sure, I was out a little gas money but I got a free make out session and felt her ass up for free LOL. Fxxx her.
She emailed me when I got home saying now you know my number and where I live when you grow some balls you can come back! I replied I still won't give you any money upfront, I do have balls that's why I said this is over and dropped your ass off I replied. I told her you're not getting one over one me. On top of that, she's not even hot, cute at best but I've had way better.
Damn scammers, fxxx them!
Stay safe guys.
AD.
And got the hell out of there with your money. Guys don't realize that not getting laid on that particular moment is not the worst thing. I'll tell you a story of what happened to me back in 2004; when I was still in my 30's.
I met this girl on craigs. I drove up to ft Lauderdale from Miami to see her. She texts me and directs me to a street corner in a residential neighborhood. Probably tantamount to what Inglewood was in the 80's. I'm like, ok. So, I turn the corner and she is standing there, right next to a stop sign. It is pitch black outside. She leans up against my car and asks for the money after I tell her to get in. She replies. "first give me the money, and then I will get in. ' strike one.
I ask her where we're going, she says she will meet me there after I pay her. Some shady story of how she can't be seen getting out of the same car with an older man (she was 19, maybe 20). Strike 2. I told her, 'wow, you had me drive 30 miles north just to try and scam me. ' she looked and me, shrugged and got in. We drove to the house she was staying at. I parked and went inside, and there was no more mention of money. I ended up fucking her in the backyard on the tile barbecue grill..
So I was having a convo with this girl (or scammer?) on SA about why money upfront? She said all her SD were willing to give upfront. I told her she's lucky and to ask her SD how many were scammed. Her response was all of them and what she was told by SDnwas they just get a bad batch and it was chump change on what they lost. So, pretty much scammers are rampant on SA because the whale SDs don't care and it's just a number game to them till they hit jackpot.
TheSpius19
05-22-21, 19:37
So I was having a convo with this girl (or scammer?) on SA about why money upfront? She said all her SD were willing to give upfront. I told her she's lucky and to ask her SD how many were scammed. Her response was all of them and what she was told by SDnwas they just get a bad batch and it was chump change on what they lost. So, pretty much scammers are rampant on SA because the whale SDs don't care and it's just a number game to them till they hit jackpot.I don't ever give ANYTHING upfront. EVER.
And I've only been scammed once. And it was alllll my fault. Girl was "coming over" and needed some gas money. Asked for 40. I Venmoed it to her. I was REALLY drunk and it was 3 am. (all bad moves) She kept telling me she was "almost there". Then she hit me up for another $40 for "wine and condoms. ".
I refused and she ghosted me.
So, yay. Congrats on the $40. To me that was a kind reminder that you NEVER SA / Escort while drunk.
NutritionFacts
05-22-21, 19:48
But when I started women were offering to "hang out" for like 150-300, now its 500 to just meet and greet, Granted I was younger but that was like 2014-2015 It has really changed out there in the past few years.
PussyPumper
05-23-21, 00:48
She said all her SD were willing to give upfront.That is part of the scammer script!
They ALWAYS say that!
It is meant to make you feel that giving money up front is totally normal, and you are the odd one out if you don't.
Of course it is completely bogus. Most SDs don't give up front. Only the rubes who fall for the scams.
TheBoobHound
05-23-21, 14:54
This is the biggest L of all time. I really cannot stres that enough but I will tell the story so that it may help some of you.Props to you for sharing a tale that most would not admit to. I think you deserve more sympathy than you've gotten. We've probbaly all felt for scams and it's just a matter of how hard.
I might have pushed harder on that last scenario though. If you had a big size advantage on that guy you may have been able to get your money back. If it became clear to him he couldn't bully you physically what could he do? Maybe you could have turned it around and made him scared. But maybe you were smarter to show restraint, you never know if someone has a weapon.
Props to you for sharing a tale that most would not admit to. I think you deserve more sympathy than you've gotten. We've probbaly all felt for scams and it's just a matter of how hard.
I might have pushed harder on that last scenario though. If you had a big size advantage on that guy you may have been able to get your money back. If it became clear to him he couldn't bully you physically what could he do? Maybe you could have turned it around and made him scared. But maybe you were smarter to show restraint, you never know if someone has a weapon.Or get his address and go over and hug it out with him. FFS, man. He is not a child. Do not treat him like one. Not only did he not learn his lesson from the first beating, he double downed on stupid and got taken by the SAME girl, using the SAME ruse. For MORE money.
That is part of the scammer script!
They ALWAYS say that!
It is meant to make you feel that giving money up front is totally normal, and you are the odd one out if you don't.
Of course it is completely bogus. Most SDs don't give up front. Only the rubes who fall for the scams.No different than the dude at T-Mobile who pushes the i9 when you have a perfectly good i8 sitting in your back pocket.
That is part of the scammer script!
They ALWAYS say that!
It is meant to make you feel that giving money up front is totally normal, and you are the odd one out if you don't.
Of course it is completely bogus. Most SDs don't give up front. Only the rubes who fall for the scams.I definitely don't pay upfront. Money is money. Would rather risk it in dogecoin even. Haha
When I first moved to LA 20 yrs ago, I got quickly scammed and pretty much learned my lesson. On HX for years, don't recall getting scammed there.
Since getting on SA a few years ago, I think I've had only 2-3 ask for money upfront. That was usually followed by a bad lay, but never a scam.
At about 11 pm, we meet in coffeeshop parking lot, have a little chat, everything seems normal. She drove her own car. Obviously a transactional hookup.
We go to my place nearby, she parks on the street 100 feet away instead of in my driveway, my driveway can be a little tight, so I didn't think much of it.
We have a nice convo for 20 minutes in my kitchen, she tells me all sorts of life details, seems legit. Other than going into kitchen bathroom to take a phone call.
Onto the bedroom, she asks for the money upfront. I know it's a red flag, but it seemed to make her more comfortable and HX dates are usually upfront (remember, this is pretty transactional) so I gave it to her. She then immediatly goes into the bathroom, shoes, phone, and all. She turns on the bathroom fan as most people do. I was definetly alarmed now and stood post between the bathroom and exit to my house, so there was no way she was going to get past me.
After several minutes of not hearing much, I finally knock on the door. No response. I grab the key and open the door, half expecting her to be passed out, OD'd, or otherwise incapacitated, I mean where could she have possibly gone?
Turns out, this skinny athletic little girl removed the screen to my chest-high, 2nd-story bathroom window. A vertical window that slides open only 9. 25 inches wide (I measured it after) and jumped / climbed out. Never in a million years did it occur to me someone would / could jump out this window. Not sure I could physically get through it in a fire.
My first thought was "I'm impressed" . . . She really got me. This girl is certainly a professional thief, been doing this sort of shit her entire life. Although I never saw or heard him, I suspect she had a male accomplice outside my door in case things got physical.
My second thought was, I could care less about the money, but knew that it would affect my trust. Sure enough, a date with a local girl a week later went south when she took too long in a restaurant bathroom (not paid yet, but triggered my trust issues).
SA Profile: Jennyyy, 24 years, white, 5'7", slim, in the LA area. I don't have link as I reported her for theft, not sure if SA took her profile down.
Please post a link if you find it.
When I first moved to LA 20 yrs ago, I got quickly scammed and pretty much learned my lesson. On HX for years, don't recall getting scammed there.
Since getting on SA a few years ago, I think I've had only 2-3 ask for money upfront. That was usually followed by a bad lay, but never a scam.
At about 11 pm, we meet in coffeeshop parking lot, have a little chat, everything seems normal. She drove her own car. Obviously a transactional hookup.
We go to my place nearby, she parks on the street 100 feet away instead of in my driveway, my driveway can be a little tight, so I didn't think much of it.
We have a nice convo for 20 minutes in my kitchen, she tells me all sorts of life details, seems legit. Other than going into kitchen bathroom to take a phone call.
Onto the bedroom, she asks for the money upfront. I know it's a red flag, but it seemed to make her more comfortable and HX dates are usually upfront (remember, this is pretty transactional) so I gave it to her. She then immediatly goes into the bathroom, shoes, phone, and all. She turns on the bathroom fan as most people do. I was definetly alarmed now and stood post between the bathroom and exit to my house, so there was no way she was going to get past me.
After several minutes of not hearing much, I finally knock on the door. No response. I grab the key and open the door, half expecting her to be passed out, OD'd, or otherwise incapacitated, I mean where could she have possibly gone?
Turns out, this skinny athletic little girl removed the screen to my chest-high, 2nd-story bathroom window. A vertical window that slides open only 9. 25 inches wide (I measured it after) and jumped / climbed out. Never in a million years did it occur to me someone would / could jump out this window. Not sure I could physically get through it in a fire.
My first thought was "I'm impressed" . . . She really got me. This girl is certainly a professional thief, been doing this sort of shit her entire life. Although I never saw or heard him, I suspect she had a male accomplice outside my door in case things got physical.
My second thought was, I could care less about the money, but knew that it would affect my trust. Sure enough, a date with a local girl a week later went south when she took too long in a restaurant bathroom (not paid yet, but triggered my trust issues).
SA Profile: Jennyyy, 24 years, white, 5'7", slim, in the LA area. I don't have link as I reported her for theft, not sure if SA took her profile down.
Please post a link if you find it.That chick actually has multiple accts and kept liking my profile. I wasn't into to her looks as she looks like a hardcore druggie that you find off the streets. I messaged her but it seemed to easy and the multiple accts were a huge red flag.
https://www.seeking.com/member/d80a43eb-ab26-4d94-9491-b626eace6994
TheHuntsman
05-23-21, 21:27
I'd guess they got tired of you freeloading. And I don't understand the utility of browsing profiles if you are never going to pay to be able to message a girl.I'm the type to browse and favorite profiles on SA and then eventually paying for a month subscription to contact them. Although I'm still banned so I haven't and don't plan on doing it for awhile. I still have a bad taste in my mouth from all the things that have happened in the last 6 mo.
I will say this. If you use tinder, okcupid, POF, and Instagram you will eventually run across girls from SA. I've run across local girls on IG that I've seen on SA. Just recently a person I used to work with about 10 yrs ago signed up for IG and we started following each other. Almost right away IG suggested a girl over seen on SA for a few years. I click on her profile and it turns out she follows the lady I used to work with. Turns out they work at the same warehouse.
Uncountable
05-23-21, 21:43
That chick actually has multiple accts and kept liking my profile. I wasn't into to her looks as she looks like a hardcore druggie that you find off the streets. I messaged her but it seemed to easy and the multiple accts were a huge red flag.
https://www.seeking.com/member/d80a43eb-ab26-4d94-9491-b626eace6994Another Profile:
https://www.seeking.com/member/0d16a46e-c0c0-48d2-8e9f-98c7d05748be
When I first moved to LA 20 yrs ago, I got quickly scammed and pretty much learned my lesson. On HX for years, don't recall getting scammed there.
Since getting on SA a few years ago, I think I've had only 2-3 ask for money upfront. That was usually followed by a bad lay, but never a scam.
At about 11 pm, we meet in coffeeshop parking lot, have a little chat, everything seems normal. She drove her own car. Obviously a transactional hookup.
We go to my place nearby, she parks on the street 100 feet away instead of in my driveway, my driveway can be a little tight, so I didn't think much of it.
We have a nice convo for 20 minutes in my kitchen, she tells me all sorts of life details, seems legit. Other than going into kitchen bathroom to take a phone call.
Onto the bedroom, she asks for the money upfront. I know it's a red flag, but it seemed to make her more comfortable and HX dates are usually upfront (remember, this is pretty transactional) so I gave it to her. She then immediatly goes into the bathroom, shoes, phone, and all. She turns on the bathroom fan as most people do. I was definetly alarmed now and stood post between the bathroom and exit to my house, so there was no way she was going to get past me.
After several minutes of not hearing much, I finally knock on the door. No response. I grab the key and open the door, half expecting her to be passed out, OD'd, or otherwise incapacitated, I mean where could she have possibly gone?
Turns out, this skinny athletic little girl removed the screen to my chest-high, 2nd-story bathroom window. A vertical window that slides open only 9. 25 inches wide (I measured it after) and jumped / climbed out. Never in a million years did it occur to me someone would / could jump out this window. Not sure I could physically get through it in a fire.
My first thought was "I'm impressed" . . . She really got me. This girl is certainly a professional thief, been doing this sort of shit her entire life. Although I never saw or heard him, I suspect she had a male accomplice outside my door in case things got physical.
My second thought was, I could care less about the money, but knew that it would affect my trust. Sure enough, a date with a local girl a week later went south when she took too long in a restaurant bathroom (not paid yet, but triggered my trust issues).
SA Profile: Jennyyy, 24 years, white, 5'7", slim, in the LA area. I don't have link as I reported her for theft, not sure if SA took her profile down.
Please post a link if you find it.She also got to case your joint too. No hooker, SB or otherwise has ever seen the inside of my home, regardless of the length of our "relationship" Hotel or their place. I have trust issues. .
PriscillaM
05-23-21, 22:07
When I first moved to LA 20 yrs ago, I got quickly scammed and pretty much learned my lesson. On HX for years, don't recall getting scammed there.
Since getting on SA a few years ago, I think I've had only 2-3 ask for money upfront. That was usually followed by a bad lay, but never a scam.
At about 11 pm, we meet in coffeeshop parking lot, have a little chat, everything seems normal. She drove her own car. Obviously a transactional hookup.
We go to my place nearby, she parks on the street 100 feet away instead of in my driveway, my driveway can be a little tight, so I didn't think much of it.
We have a nice convo for 20 minutes in my kitchen, she tells me all sorts of life details, seems legit. Other than going into kitchen bathroom to take a phone call.
Onto the bedroom, she asks for the money upfront. I know it's a red flag, but it seemed to make her more comfortable and HX dates are usually upfront (remember, this is pretty transactional) so I gave it to her. She then immediatly goes into the bathroom, shoes, phone, and all. She turns on the bathroom fan as most people do. I was definetly alarmed now and stood post between the bathroom and exit to my house, so there was no way she was going to get past me.
After several minutes of not hearing much, I finally knock on the door. No response. I grab the key and open the door, half expecting her to be passed out, OD'd, or otherwise incapacitated, I mean where could she have possibly gone?
Turns out, this skinny athletic little girl removed the screen to my chest-high, 2nd-story bathroom window. A vertical window that slides open only 9. 25 inches wide (I measured it after) and jumped / climbed out. Never in a million years did it occur to me someone would / could jump out this window. Not sure I could physically get through it in a fire.
My first thought was "I'm impressed" . . . She really got me. This girl is certainly a professional thief, been doing this sort of shit her entire life. Although I never saw or heard him, I suspect she had a male accomplice outside my door in case things got physical.
My second thought was, I could care less about the money, but knew that it would affect my trust. Sure enough, a date with a local girl a week later went south when she took too long in a restaurant bathroom (not paid yet, but triggered my trust issues).
SA Profile: Jennyyy, 24 years, white, 5'7", slim, in the LA area. I don't have link as I reported her for theft, not sure if SA took her profile down.
Please post a link if you find it.I have no problem with this story. You did not get "taken" you were the victim of a crime. The stories were some dud is as hard as a turtle, calls for outcall, and a girl comes over and basically asks for 200, then 400 then more to do nothing and then runs out when the driver comes out, that is being taken advantage of.
This woman must have literally cased your place in advance or something and gotten a text from daddy and was told to climb out.
I admire that ingenuity.
PriscillaM
05-23-21, 22:14
When I first moved to LA 20 yrs ago, I got quickly scammed and pretty much learned my lesson. On HX for years, don't recall getting scammed there.
Since getting on SA a few years ago, I think I've had only 2-3 ask for money upfront. That was usually followed by a bad lay, but never a scam.
At about 11 pm, we meet in coffeeshop parking lot, have a little chat, everything seems normal. She drove her own car. Obviously a transactional hookup.
We go to my place nearby, she parks on the street 100 feet away instead of in my driveway, my driveway can be a little tight, so I didn't think much of it.
We have a nice convo for 20 minutes in my kitchen, she tells me all sorts of life details, seems legit. Other than going into kitchen bathroom to take a phone call.
Onto the bedroom, she asks for the money upfront. I know it's a red flag, but it seemed to make her more comfortable and HX dates are usually upfront (remember, this is pretty transactional) so I gave it to her. She then immediatly goes into the bathroom, shoes, phone, and all. She turns on the bathroom fan as most people do. I was definetly alarmed now and stood post between the bathroom and exit to my house, so there was no way she was going to get past me.
After several minutes of not hearing much, I finally knock on the door. No response. I grab the key and open the door, half expecting her to be passed out, OD'd, or otherwise incapacitated, I mean where could she have possibly gone?
Turns out, this skinny athletic little girl removed the screen to my chest-high, 2nd-story bathroom window. A vertical window that slides open only 9. 25 inches wide (I measured it after) and jumped / climbed out. Never in a million years did it occur to me someone would / could jump out this window. Not sure I could physically get through it in a fire.
My first thought was "I'm impressed" . . . She really got me. This girl is certainly a professional thief, been doing this sort of shit her entire life. Although I never saw or heard him, I suspect she had a male accomplice outside my door in case things got physical.
My second thought was, I could care less about the money, but knew that it would affect my trust. Sure enough, a date with a local girl a week later went south when she took too long in a restaurant bathroom (not paid yet, but triggered my trust issues).
SA Profile: Jennyyy, 24 years, white, 5'7", slim, in the LA area. I don't have link as I reported her for theft, not sure if SA took her profile down.
Please post a link if you find it.I have no problem with this story. You did not get "taken" you were the victim of a crime. The stories were some dud is as hard as a turtle, calls for outcall, and a girl comes over and basically asks for 200, then 400 then more to do nothing and then runs out when the driver comes out, that is being taken advantage of.
This woman must have literally cased your place in advance or something and gotten a text from daddy and was told to climb out.
I admire that ingenuity.
HollywoodGuy
05-24-21, 01:27
So I was having a convo with this girl (or scammer?) on SA about why money upfront? She said all her SD were willing to give upfront. I told her she's lucky and to ask her SD how many were scammed. Her response was all of them and what she was told by SDnwas they just get a bad batch and it was chump change on what they lost. So, pretty much scammers are rampant on SA because the whale SDs don't care and it's just a number game to them till they hit jackpot.She is probably telling the truth. She only dates or ghosts guys that pay upfront. Its believable. Plenty of stupid new SD's everyday. Especially the recently divorced.
Props to you for sharing a tale that most would not admit to. I think you deserve more sympathy than you've gotten. We've probbaly all felt for scams and it's just a matter of how hard.
I might have pushed harder on that last scenario though. If you had a big size advantage on that guy you may have been able to get your money back. If it became clear to him he couldn't bully you physically what could he do? Maybe you could have turned it around and made him scared. But maybe you were smarter to show restraint, you never know if someone has a weapon.Actually not escalating physically was probably the ONLY good decision he made that entire story. Yes, maybe it wouldve worked out, but like you said, you never know what weapons they may have or what. Its just not worth it. The L was taken on every single decision he made leading up to that point.
After several minutes of not hearing much, I finally knock on the door. No response. I grab the key and open the door, half expecting her to be passed out, OD'd, or otherwise incapacitated, I mean where could she have possibly gone?
Turns out, this skinny athletic little girl removed the screen to my chest-high, 2nd-story bathroom window. A vertical window that slides open only 9. 25 inches wide (I measured it after) and jumped / climbed out. Never in a million years did it occur to me someone would / could jump out this window. Not sure I could physically get through it in a fire.
My first thought was "I'm impressed" . . . She really got me. This girl is certainly a professional thief, been doing this sort of shit her entire life. Although I never saw or heard him, I suspect she had a male accomplice outside my door in case things got physical.
SA Profile: Jennyyy, 24 years, white, 5'7", slim, in the LA area. I don't have link as I reported her for theft, not sure if SA took her profile down.
Please post a link if you find it.
I almost forgot the best part, her profile tagline read:
"You never know what you have until it's gone"
Which I took as a sentimental. Haha, silly me.
So, if you ever hear / read such a thing, it should make your ears perk up.
FYI - my house is pretty well setup/sanitized for this, been doing it for 2 years, never a problem. Nothing with my name is accessible (papers, packages, prescreptions, etc). Not really any valuables in the house
DavidTheSancho
05-24-21, 12:54
So the (I)nstagram app used to be a great screener for me after I got girls numbers to make sure they weren't a fake but they seem to have removed the ability to manually sync contacts so it's pretty much useless now. Anyone have another way of doing this or a work around?
I almost forgot the best part, her profile tagline read:
"You never know what you have until it's gone"
Which I took as a sentimental. Haha, silly me.
So, if you ever hear / read such a thing, it should make your ears perk up.
FYI - my house is pretty well setup/sanitized for this, been doing it for 2 years, never a problem. Nothing with my name is accessible (papers, packages, prescreptions, etc). Not really any valuables in the houseYou mentioned she probably had a guy friend waiting for her at the bottom floor, underneath the window to catch her. How did she text him your address? Did you notice her scoping out the street name and the numbers as you parked / drove? Did she text while you were driving.
Whenever I pick up a girl, I tell her to put her phone away. If she texts while I am driving I drop her off ASAP.
They all lie and say they are texting their friend. When we all know it is their pimp / stick up guy.
You mentioned she probably had a guy friend waiting for her at the bottom floor, underneath the window to catch her. How did she text him your address? Did you notice her scoping out the street name and the numbers as you parked / drove? Did she text while you were driving.
Whenever I pick up a girl, I tell her to put her phone away. If she texts while I am driving I drop her off ASAP.
They all lie and say they are texting their friend. When we all know it is their pimp / stick up guy.We drove separately, easy enough for them to share their GPS.
I've never had problems hosting at my house, never had a stick up guy here, not even sure it happened with Ammyyy. Only suspected.
FirstClass1
05-24-21, 16:24
I almost forgot the best part, her profile tagline read:
"You never know what you have until it's gone"
Which I took as a sentimental. Haha, silly me.
So, if you ever hear / read such a thing, it should make your ears perk up.
FYI - my house is pretty well setup/sanitized for this, been doing it for 2 years, never a problem. Nothing with my name is accessible (papers, packages, prescreptions, etc). Not really any valuables in the houseI've seen that chick pop up over the years, always getting favorited by her day-old profiles. Like others, I was not impressed by her looks, but I am impressed by her parkour abilities! She must have been bitten by a radioactive WG.
When I first moved to LA 20 yrs ago, I got quickly scammed and pretty much learned my lesson. On HX for years, don't recall getting scammed there.
Since getting on SA a few years ago, I think I've had only 2-3 ask for money upfront. That was usually followed by a bad lay, but never a scam.
At about 11 pm, we meet in coffeeshop parking lot, have a little chat, everything seems normal. She drove her own car. Obviously a transactional hookup.
We go to my place nearby, she parks on the street 100 feet away instead of in my driveway, my driveway can be a little tight, so I didn't think much of it.
We have a nice convo for 20 minutes in my kitchen, she tells me all sorts of life details, seems legit. Other than going into kitchen bathroom to take a phone call.
Onto the bedroom, she asks for the money upfront. I know it's a red flag, but it seemed to make her more comfortable and HX dates are usually upfront (remember, this is pretty transactional) so I gave it to her. She then immediatly goes into the bathroom, shoes, phone, and all. She turns on the bathroom fan as most people do. I was definetly alarmed now and stood post between the bathroom and exit to my house, so there was no way she was going to get past me.
After several minutes of not hearing much, I finally knock on the door. No response. I grab the key and open the door, half expecting her to be passed out, OD'd, or otherwise incapacitated, I mean where could she have possibly gone?We did a car date and as soon as she got the money she ran into her car where there was a couple guys inside. Couldn't see initially since the windows were tinted. Never paying upfront again.
We did a car date and as soon as she got the money she ran into her car where there was a couple guys inside. Couldn't see initially since the windows were tinted. Never paying upfront again.If someone like me set up a date with her and all you guys that were robbed by her were waiting for her when she walks in to the room. Her face would fall flat.
And then I would leave the rest up to your imagination.
Alkalinedio
05-25-21, 00:54
I spoke to this chick way back, maybe like 3 months ago on the phone once.
Got a weird vibe. Her stories didn't add up and she said she lived in Glendale or Pasadena, I forgot. I smelled something bad and moved on.
I forget what she said but something was off.
That story about the 2nd story window escape, that was pretty Oceans 11. Sucks for sure, sorry to hear but goddamn that's a pro thief LOL.
We did a car date and as soon as she got the money she ran into her car where there was a couple guys inside. Couldn't see initially since the windows were tinted. Never paying upfront again.
FirstClass1
05-25-21, 21:10
If someone like me set up a date with her and all you guys that were robbed by her were waiting for her when she walks in to the room. Her face would fall flat.
And then I would leave the rest up to your imagination.I'd love to see the wholesome dialogue and bridge-building that would take place.
If someone like me set up a date with her and all you guys that were robbed by her were waiting for her when she walks in to the room. Her face would fall flat.
And then I would leave the rest up to your imagination.We should all msg her acct promising huge money. Agree to meet somewhere far away but we're actually not there. Make her wait an HR, keep saying we are there, but not there, then ghost. Or give a random address and have her knock on them.
OcasianBoy
05-27-21, 21:46
https://www.seeking.com/member/b41ad89e-0132-4443-a968-6408dae0d7e9
This girl is pretty hot but wants a premium for a very plain get together. Not worth it, at least to me.
I found This sugar baby off the grid. Lots of fun and sexy and huge tits. She is 23. College graduate looking for sugar daddies. I gave her 6 benjis for our time together.
She also is bisexual. Has a girlfriend she is willing to share. Very chill, down to earth girl who loves to dominate.
This is her email. Tell her jorge gave you the email.
sapphicupid@gmail.com
She will send you all her pics.
HollywoodGuy
05-28-21, 13:38
Evangelical Christianity and sex. It's not all that bad.
https://biblicalsexology.com/2021/05/16/10-rules-of-sex-for-wives/
I stupidly for got to add a disclaimer.
Just in case she asks, do NOT send her money up front to meet.
And no, it is not BBFS.
Does anyone have try this one? Any info will help.
https://www.seeking.com/member/63d544cb-85a5-4613-a063-6eb28bd8ea38
Anyone have any info on this cutie?
https://www.seeking.com/member/63d544cb-85a5-4613-a063-6eb28bd8ea38
If someone like me set up a date with her and all you guys that were robbed by her were waiting for her when she walks in to the room. Her face would fall flat.
And then I would leave the rest up to your imagination.Here's her new profile if anyone wants to set that up. I'm definitely in LOL.
https://www.seeking.com/member/c24337f9-7a6a-46a2-99e6-a59a94ff1eed
AsianPussy
06-02-21, 01:18
I get messages every few days from Chinese girls, either in China or in England. They all claim to be rich, not looking for an allowance just love or a husband.
Its fishy for sure, but I don't know how. I've chatted with a few of them and none of them try to scam me, one asked me to visit China and meet her parents, a few just want to chat every day.
They are all 9-10's, like models.
Last week, 2 girls messaged me on the same day and said they were divorced because the husband gambled and got violent. It was almost the same story.
Anyone else run into this, or better yet, know what is up?
I get messages every few days from Chinese girls, either in China or in England. They all claim to be rich, not looking for an allowance just love or a husband.
Its fishy for sure, but I don't know how. I've chatted with a few of them and none of them try to scam me, one asked me to visit China and meet her parents, a few just want to chat every day.
They are all 9-10's, like models.
Last week, 2 girls messaged me on the same day and said they were divorced because the husband gambled and got violent. It was almost the same story.
Anyone else run into this, or better yet, know what is up?Duh. It's a long con. Trust me, the money request will come. It ALWAYS come. They're just building rapport and trying to suck you in. Keep at it long enough and some bogus story how they need money will come up. Keep it up and let us know the amazing story they come up with when it's time for the money shot. LOL.
I get messages every few days from Chinese girls, either in China or in England. They all claim to be rich, not looking for an allowance just love or a husband.
Its fishy for sure, but I don't know how. I've chatted with a few of them and none of them try to scam me, one asked me to visit China and meet her parents, a few just want to chat every day.
They are all 9-10's, like models.
Last week, 2 girls messaged me on the same day and said they were divorced because the husband gambled and got violent. It was almost the same story.
Anyone else run into this, or better yet, know what is up?HE will court you via text on what's app.
HE will send you fake photos of a very hot Asian chick.
HE will start to tell you his tales of woe.
HE will say he can marry you and pay you a large lump sum once he makes it over to the states. He will cook and clean and give you endless blow jobs.
HE will say all the things that you want to hear. If you are a beta simp, (and there are more than a few on this website; just scroll thru last month's content) you will believe this with your heart.
And finally.
HE will ask you for money to pay for the flight from Hong Kong to the USA. HE will again tell you how once he is in the USA HE will meet up up with old, generous Uncle Nguyen who will float her(him) the money to pay you for marrying her(him). But, of course, HE must make it to get to the states first.
I think you should answer one of these fraudsters from a ghost account and get a what's app number. String him along and see what develops. Then report here so we can all see the con in real time.
I think we should all start doing that.
Priscilla and I did it last month with a cavernous twat of a hoe asking for gift cards in multiple locations.
PriscillaM
06-02-21, 13:57
I get messages every few days from Chinese girls, either in China or in England. They all claim to be rich, not looking for an allowance just love or a husband.
Its fishy for sure, but I don't know how. I've chatted with a few of them and none of them try to scam me, one asked me to visit China and meet her parents, a few just want to chat every day.
They are all 9-10's, like models.
Last week, 2 girls messaged me on the same day and said they were divorced because the husband gambled and got violent. It was almost the same story.
Anyone else run into this, or better yet, know what is up?The younger generation should watch the sting. The mark is tricked into thinking that the con has the confidence of the Mark. This con is building in you the feeling that the con has shared private details with you and that she is not just a prostitute. Now you will let your guard down, because you have bought into the confidence. So, if you actually believe that legit nonpros are on seeking overpriced pussy, you have taken your first step into buying into the con.
AsianPussy
06-02-21, 13:57
I use a fake what's app number and give no personal info because I'm sure there's some part that's a scam, I'm just waiting for it.
None have asked me for any money, but one girl asked me to fly to HK to meet the parents which I thought was really strange. Then she said she didn't speak any english, only Chinese which made me wonder WTF.
All of them do one thing which is really weird, they tell me how rich they are from Forex trading and crypto. And they all screenshot some large account balances or transfer confirmations. Has anyone else seen this?
HE will court you via text on what's app.
HE will send you fake photos of a very hot Asian chick.
HE will start to tell you his tales of woe.
HE will say he can marry you and pay you a large lump sum once he makes it over to the states. He will cook and clean and give you endless blow jobs.
HE will say all the things that you want to hear. If you are a beta simp, (and there are more than a few on this website; just scroll thru last month's content) you will believe this with your heart.
And finally.
HE will ask you for money to pay for the flight from Hong Kong to the USA. HE will again tell you how once he is in the USA HE will meet up up with old, generous Uncle Nguyen who will float her(him) the money to pay you for marrying her(him). But, of course, HE must make it to get to the states first.
I think you should answer one of these fraudsters from a ghost account and get a what's app number. String him along and see what develops. Then report here so we can all see the con in real time.
I think we should all start doing that.
Priscilla and I did it last month with a cavernous twat of a hoe asking for gift cards in multiple locations.
Alkalinedio
06-02-21, 16:55
I told her we talked before we did (never met).
Then I said we should meet and she said yaaaaaaa, I told her I live on the top floor of a 40 story high rise with security on the bottom and top floor, so she'll be safe.
She went quiet right after that. I said hey, are you down to come? She stayed quiet again haha- Probably figured she could not mission impossible that one LOLZ.
Stay safe.
AD.
Here's her new profile if anyone wants to set that up. I'm definitely in LOL.
https://www.seeking.com/member/c24337f9-7a6a-46a2-99e6-a59a94ff1eed
I use a fake what's app number and give no personal info because I'm sure there's some part that's a scam, I'm just waiting for it.
None have asked me for any money, but one girl asked me to fly to HK to meet the parents which I thought was really strange. Then she said she didn't speak any english, only Chinese which made me wonder WTF.
All of them do one thing which is really weird, they tell me how rich they are from Forex trading and crypto. And they all screenshot some large account balances or transfer confirmations. Has anyone else seen this?I get this on twitter a lot. There are people that scour the trading platforms on there and Reddit. They initialize a convo thru text. After a few desultory texts they will tell you how they made a fortune in FOREX trading. Then they will tell you to get a what's app number so they can call you (the first hint they are from out of country).
This is just one of another millions of scams designed to part you from your hard earned cash. I always string them along. When they ask me how much I make in a year I tell them 75% return. They actually tell me that is good, but they can beat it.
Hahahahahah.
Don't ever get into Forex. Crypto as well is a dicey proposition. It has no real, substantive value. At least you can assign tangible numbers / earnings / targets / future growth to stocks.
OcasianBoy
06-03-21, 01:19
https://www.seeking.com/member/882ff14b-fc50-47cd-9c97-c78e73931959
Don't bother with this scammer. Will ask for gas money before the meet.
FirstClass1
06-03-21, 02:22
I found This sugar baby off the grid. Lots of fun and sexy and huge tits. She is 23. College graduate looking for sugar daddies. I gave her 6 benjis for our time together.
She also is bisexual. Has a girlfriend she is willing to share. Very chill, down to earth girl who loves to dominate.
I messaged this girl, and she is plain and fugly, a total mid. Decent milkers are the only thing she has going on. 500-600 is the opening proposal you'd get from many hotter model types or spinners on SA. To someone who brags about hooking up with Skid Row grandmas, I suppose this girl could be considered an upgrade.
Justn Beaver
06-03-21, 10:45
I messaged this girl, and she is plain and fugly, a total mid. Decent milkers are the only thing she has going on. 500-600 is the opening proposal you'd get from many hotter model types or spinners on SA. To someone who brags about hooking up with Skid Row grandmas, I suppose this girl could be considered an upgrade.Hey guys,
Yuck! This poster has more accounts than a Hundred could have. I would think a mid would go for a 150 spot of flowers and you never know until you set up your sugar bowl repertoire which should include your introduction letter, your experience, no nonsense approach, and a hook that gets them to glom on. When I used the website I had to pretend I was older.
Justn Beaver.
I messaged this girl, and she is plain and fugly, a total mid. Decent milkers are the only thing she has going on. 500-600 is the opening proposal you'd get from many hotter model types or spinners on SA. To someone who brags about hooking up with Skid Row grandmas, I suppose this girl could be considered an upgrade.
I never paid her a dime. She is a friend breaking into the biz and I thought I would help her out. And yes, possibly get some free snatch on the side for helping out. such are the vagaries of the 'game'.
I am always looking for an in. I am as much a sociopath as the girls on PD and Eros. I am a predator.
She is good looking. Maybe she turned you down because she is picky and has never done this. She already told me she turned down about 10 guys that emailed her; for one reason or another. I suspect she has cold feet. But you are right in one aspect. When she asked me for $600 I totally laughed it off and told her she was crazy. And she is not ugly, dude. The pics with her with long hair make her look quite attractive.
And yes, I bang chicks in skid row. So what? Do you have an issue with that? Is it any of your business? I also have banged chicks from PD, Eros, Backpage, massage parlor reviews, escorts, clasificado low rent border hoppers, porn stars, etc, etc. It's all gash, and the name of the game is to score as much as you can at a certain price point while you still have the ability to achieve a hard on.
Some of those skid row girls I've been with put out A1 service. I mean 2 or 3 hours of non interrupted fucking for $80. I have 2 regulars that charge me $50. And NO, I will not give out their info. Try and beat that with a 21 year old narcissistic, selfish, sociopathic spinner who read a few sub chats in reddit and listened to the scammer girls.
INFO: All girls in the 22-24 year old gap want $600 nowadays. It is a seller's market, because of covid, and the way it decimated the working girl rosters. Once covid is defeated, and the girls come out of the woodwork, pricing will go back to normal. It's called supply and demand. Hell, the AMPs now all want $60 for an hour; when it was $45 pre covid.
Anyways, don't be so bitter, dude. You aren't the only one she turned away. And as far as your assertion that only hot girls ask for $600, i think you haven't been paying attention to all the ads and pics guys have been posting on here. Plain ass girls asking for $1k. Please mofo, go away. You sound like a whiny, beta, simp bi**h.
Thanks for the tip, had the same experience.
https://www.seeking.com/member/882ff14b-fc50-47cd-9c97-c78e73931959
Don't bother with this scammer. Will ask for gas money before the meet.Here's a few more trashy duds:
https://www.seeking.com/member/0f601a24-e373-434a-b2c0-213dd5f00b82
Strings along for a bit then starts demanding money, then pretending it's a joke.
https://www.seeking.com/member/d03acd1b-8cde-4774-a430-f25964421e27
Messages people in random locations like LA and pretends to be visiting, then eventually asks for shopping money.
https://www.seeking.com/member/e9128167-6e93-4295-88c1-ca9171435317
Think they're escorts in from Vegas.
Had a few others but not letting me see the blocked off ones and I'm not going to dig just for a scammer. Found some potentials I'm trying to run down, but just running across a bunch trying to say the prices jumped to $600/700 for barely better than the one you guys are arguing over. Yet under 6 months ago there were plenty of girls if you wanted to venture north of 5 (I kinda noped out on many that were trying to give subpar for that).
FirstClass1
06-04-21, 02:57
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AsianPussy
06-04-21, 13:54
She must be a real model or IG girl in China, anyone know who?
I don't mean the scammer I'm chatting with, I mean the 45 pictures he's sent me.
HE will court you via text on what's app.
HE will send you fake photos of a very hot Asian chick.
HE will start to tell you his tales of woe.
HE will say he can marry you and pay you a large lump sum once he makes it over to the states. He will cook and clean and give you endless blow jobs.
HE will say all the things that you want to hear. If you are a beta simp, (and there are more than a few on this website; just scroll thru last month's content) you will believe this with your heart.
And finally.
HE will ask you for money to pay for the flight from Hong Kong to the USA. HE will again tell you how once he is in the USA HE will meet up up with old, generous Uncle Nguyen who will float her(him) the money to pay you for marrying her(him). But, of course, HE must make it to get to the states first.
I think you should answer one of these fraudsters from a ghost account and get a what's app number. String him along and see what develops. Then report here so we can all see the con in real time.
I think we should all start doing that.
Priscilla and I did it last month with a cavernous twat of a hoe asking for gift cards in multiple locations.
OcasianBoy
06-04-21, 20:15
https://www.seeking.com/member/687eebd5-4b21-4c04-acf3-b010c6c3830e
This gal looks hot and is probably a utr pro looking for 1 k ppm. Hot Asian girls have ridiculous prices. LOL.
Ks Dark Knight
06-05-21, 00:35
That is part of the scammer script!
They ALWAYS say that!
It is meant to make you feel that giving money up front is totally normal, and you are the odd one out if you don't.
Of course it is completely bogus. Most SDs don't give up front. Only the rubes who fall for the scams.I'm going to appreciate your thoughts on this. When a chick asks for money up front and you're actually in the room together, what is the best way of not paying her up front but at the same time not letting the situation go south with either shitty service or her leaving? They all say they are afraid of getting robbed and maybe they have a point. We're certainly afraid of giving it and then getting robbed so what is the easiest approach for that? I've been doing this for years and that's still a mystery to me LOL.
I'm going to appreciate your thoughts on this. When a chick asks for money up front and you're actually in the room together, what is the best way of not paying her up front but at the same time not letting the situation go south with either shitty service or her leaving? They all say they are afraid of getting robbed and maybe they have a point. We're certainly afraid of giving it and then getting robbed so what is the easiest approach for that? I've been doing this for years and that's still a mystery to me LOL.There is no shame in walking away. Just say, "I'm not comfortable with that arrangement. Thank you for your time. "
Then get up and walk out. Gauge her reaction. If she starts saying things like, "C'Mon. Baby, I promise you you'll have a great time. " Or, "Baby you won't regret it."
RUN like hell.
A genuine sugar baby would react differently. A pro or a scammer will always see you as a mark. Being sociopaths, they do NOT see you as a person. You are an object.
An object to ridicule. Defile. Humiliate.
And to rob.
There is no shame in walking away. Just say, "I'm not comfortable with that arrangement. Thank you for your time. "
A genuine sugar baby would react differently. A pro or a scammer will always see you as a mark. Being sociopaths, they do NOT see you as a person. You are an object.
An object to ridicule. Defile. Humiliate.
And to rob.This is unfortunately true, but can happen with SBs walking away. My take on it is to say that "I see SBs get money afterwards, escorts demand it up front if they have a record" or something like that. Sadly I started out with leaving the money out on the fridge or showing somewhere to calm their nerves, but I had SBs that I saw a few times, jump up, grab it, and run out while my head was turned. So I stopped doing that.
You could use that story. That you used to leave it out up front first, but changed after more than once a girl walked in, grabbed it, walked out. And it wasn't even a new girl!
HollywoodGuy
06-05-21, 15:54
I'm going to appreciate your thoughts on this. When a chick asks for money up front and you're actually in the room together, what is the best way of not paying her up front but at the same time not letting the situation go south with either shitty service or her leaving? They all say they are afraid of getting robbed and maybe they have a point. We're certainly afraid of giving it and then getting robbed so what is the easiest approach for that? I've been doing this for years and that's still a mystery to me LOL.Never carry more than twenty and just say you will hit the atm right after. If you act like it's normal, it will be normal.
This is unfortunately true, but can happen with SBs walking away. My take on it is to say that "I see SBs get money afterwards, escorts demand it up front if they have a record" or something like that. Sadly I started out with leaving the money out on the fridge or showing somewhere to calm their nerves, but I had SBs that I saw a few times, jump up, grab it, and run out while my head was turned. So I stopped doing that.
You could use that story. That you used to leave it out up front first, but changed after more than once a girl walked in, grabbed it, walked out. And it wasn't even a new girl!Mentoring young girls on how to seduce, set up and scam sugar daddies. She advises them on how to milk them dry without ever actually meeting in person.
She is truly awful. The apotheosis of this me first, instagram age of gratification. If I saw her walking on the sidewalk I would seriously consider turning the wheel and putting her out of her miserable existence.
I've watched a few tik tok videos and almost threw up at how hateful and spiteful she is.
Mentoring young girls on how to seduce, set up and scam sugar daddies. She advises them on how to milk them dry without ever actually meeting in person.
She is truly awful. The apotheosis of this me first, instagram age of gratification. If I saw her walking on the sidewalk I would seriously consider turning the wheel and putting her out of her miserable existence.
I've watched a few tik tok videos and almost threw up at how hateful and spiteful she is.And shame her.
PussyPumper
06-05-21, 21:12
I'm going to appreciate your thoughts on this. When a chick asks for money up front and you're actually in the room together, what is the best way of not paying her up front but at the same time not letting the situation go south with either shitty service or her leaving? They all say they are afraid of getting robbed and maybe they have a point. We're certainly afraid of giving it and then getting robbed so what is the easiest approach for that? I've been doing this for years and that's still a mystery to me LOL.The earlier discussion was about scam SBs asking for money up-front, before meeting. As I understand it, this question is about a somewhat different situation, where you are actually together in a bedroom, ready to get intimate.
If this is first meeting in bedroom, and the SB asks for money up front, then you may be the one f*ck*d!
Huge red flag.
In many years at this, NO REGULAR SB ever asked me for money up front, at least that I recall.
So what to do if one does? I would recommend two things:
1. Don't agree! An SB who asks for money up front is either.
A. A scammer, or.
B. A pro / escort.
Either way, I would not take the risk.
2. Decline by saying something along the lines of.
"Of course I am happy to provide assistance, but what you suggest would make things very transactional, which I am sure we both want to avoid. ".
The reality is that she may walk, but if so then console yourself that she was obviously not a real SB anyway.
Mentoring young girls on how to seduce, set up and scam sugar daddies. She advises them on how to milk them dry without ever actually meeting in person.
She is truly awful. The apotheosis of this me first, instagram age of gratification. If I saw her walking on the sidewalk I would seriously consider turning the wheel and putting her out of her miserable existence.
I've watched a few tik tok videos and almost threw up at how hateful and spiteful she is.Listen I'm defending shitty girls but for her to get money without ever meeting the guy, the guy has to be a dummy and give money upfront. Never paying upfront = never being scammed. Pretty simple. Some guys were born to be scammed. Just saying.
Listen I'm defending shitty girls but for her to get money without ever meeting the guy, the guy has to be a dummy and give money upfront. Never paying upfront = never being scammed. Pretty simple. Some guys were born to be scammed. Just saying.The fact is, she is mentoring young girls, who in turn pollute the websites believing her advice. Wasting our time. SA, Tik tok, tinder, snapchat, instagram, etc.
They've become all but useless due to the unadulterated proliferation of scammers. This is a recent phenomena. It was always there, but it wasn't this bad pre-covid.
I'm guessing you spent minimum $1500 for all 4.
I have about 6 AMPs that I go to and get BBFS for $170 each time. Met a young 24 year old Korean today at a spa in * and she blew my mind away (something else as well). Rocking body and great, pink, pointy nipples on the most perfect pair of manufactured breasts imaginable.I joined MP Reviews and searched back three months for hot BBFS AMP girls. None found.
CreamHer333
06-07-21, 13:47
I know she's a real person (plenty of social media).
But she's pricey.
https://www.seeking.com/member/7e4536ed-30cf-4155-a373-b3d86f64ba14
SunMoonStars11
06-08-21, 22:37
I have messaged a few on SA who say the first meeting has to be in public (dinner and / or drinks) but you have to give them money in order to go out with them. I had one recently who said the first dinner meet is XX. 5 and then we can have fun every meeting after this. Now, this chick seemed totally legit but have any of you done this and had it go well? This woman is kind of my type but I I can't in my right mind pay to take someone out to dinner LOL.
FirstClass1
06-09-21, 01:29
I know she's a real person (plenty of social media).
But she's pricey.
https://www.seeking.com/member/7e4536ed-30cf-4155-a373-b3d86f64ba14She's fun. See my report here:
http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?33035-Kegels-and-Tightest-Boxes&p=5352724&viewfull=1#post5352724
FirstClass1
06-09-21, 01:49
I joined MP Reviews and searched back three months for hot BBFS AMP girls. None found.BBFS in any scenario is often a matter of personal mileage. [Deleted by Admin]
Many pro girls will allow BBFS only with a mark up, or to repeat customers. Sugar babies as non pros or semi pros are often more amenable to going bare on the first date with no additional allowance from what is initially negotiated.
Inflation and the laws of supply and demand have affected all markets, including pussy, and despite rosy prognostications and the occasional rare finds, rates and allowances are unlikely to go down anytime soon, if at all.
FirstClass1
06-09-21, 03:13
Name her and shame her.This is a professional rinser with a sizeable social media following, who coaches young girls how to make easy money without ever meeting:
https://www.tiktok.com/@callikoa/vid...from_webapp=v3
https://www.tiktok.com/@callikoa/vid...from_webapp=v3
https://www.tiktok.com/@callikoa/vid...from_webapp=v3
https://www.instagram.com/callikoaaa/
This creature coaches her audience how to lead on their marks on why they can't meet, while collecting allowances. This parasite's socials are dripping with all the things she buys and does with simp money, and she is 22 but claims to be 18 in her SB accounts. Her "boyfriend" is happy to pimp her out as she allegedly "never meets anyone. ".
I do not believe there are as many guys as she claims giving her thousands per month for just chatting. I think she is just a shill by the sugar websites. She gets paid by luring women into signing up ensuring the sugar sites a steady supply of new profiles. I bet it's cheaper for them that paying the Bulgarian content farmers to create multiple new ones every day. Note that she is warning girls to stay away from Seeking but is talking up Seeking Benefits. Hmmmmm. I wonder if someone was late paying or cut her off.
Bam.
This is a professional rinser with a sizeable social media following, who coaches young girls how to make easy money without ever meeting:
https://www.tiktok.com/@callikoa/vid...from_webapp=v3
https://www.tiktok.com/@callikoa/vid...from_webapp=v3
https://www.tiktok.com/@callikoa/vid...from_webapp=v3
https://www.instagram.com/callikoaaa/
This creature coaches her audience how to lead on their marks on why they can't meet, while collecting allowances. This parasite's socials are dripping with all the things she buys and does with simp money, and she is 22 but claims to be 18 in her SB accounts. Her "boyfriend" is happy to pimp her out as she allegedly "never meets anyone. ".
TheHunter21
06-09-21, 14:52
She's fun. See my report here:
http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?33035-Kegels-and-Tightest-Boxes&p=5352724&viewfull=1#post5352724What is she asking?
I do not believe there are as many guys as she claims giving her thousands per month for just chatting. I think she is just a shill by the sugar websites. She gets paid by luring women into signing up ensuring the sugar sites a steady supply of new profiles. I bet it's cheaper for them that paying the Bulgarian content farmers to create multiple new ones every day. Note that she is warning girls to stay away from Seeking but is talking up Seeking Benefits. Hmmmmm. I wonder if someone was late paying or cut her off.
Bam.They have to project opulence and flash the lifestyle to their army of followers. I'm sure she gets some simp cash. After all, we've seen the simps on here that love sending cash up front on cash app or apple pay or whatever the fu*.
But no way does she make thousands a month. She is a basic 5 at best.
FarFarAway
06-09-21, 17:58
It doesn't make sense for a site to have a female shill promoting it. If they get more girls to sign up, that increases the SB / SD ratio only marginally, and they don't make any more money directly for having more girls on the site.
What they would do, if they were dishonest, is to have a guy who gave out all his secrets for getting great girls at reasonable prices, to get more men to pay for a membership. To a certain extent, this site does that, but I don't recall anyone posting here, the Richmond sugar thread, etc. , being accused of fronting for SA.
HollywoodGuy
06-09-21, 22:39
I have messaged a few on SA who say the first meeting has to be in public (dinner and / or drinks) but you have to give them money in order to go out with them. I had one recently who said the first dinner meet is XX. 5 and then we can have fun every meeting after this. Now, this chick seemed totally legit but have any of you done this and had it go well? This woman is kind of my type but I I can't in my right mind pay to take someone out to dinner LOL.Meet at a starbucks. Then take a test drive in a quiet parking lot somewhere. At that point you'll know what your budget is. Or meet in the parking lot of or near your notel of choice. You get the idea.
I have messaged a few on SA who say the first meeting has to be in public (dinner and / or drinks) but you have to give them money in order to go out with them. I had one recently who said the first dinner meet is XX. 5 and then we can have fun every meeting after this. Now, this chick seemed totally legit but have any of you done this and had it go well? This woman is kind of my type but I I can't in my right mind pay to take someone out to dinner LOL.I did it once but never again. Also, if the profile is sashababy, you'll get action, but no xxx, in dinner date but will ghost you after. I got blocked after dinner date.
FarFarAway
06-11-21, 10:37
I have a SB who is interested in getting a little cosmetic surgery, and having me pick it up in lieu of sugar. Doing it in SoCal is way beyond a normal allowance, though. I am wondering if there is anyone w / experience getting medical procedures in Mexico / TJ who could advise about details. If the procedure were 20% of the US price, it would be about a month's allowance, and this is something I could imagine arranging w / my SB.
I have a SB who is interested in getting a little cosmetic surgery, and having me pick it up in lieu of sugar. Doing it in SoCal is way beyond a normal allowance, though. I am wondering if there is anyone w / experience getting medical procedures in Mexico / TJ who could advise about details. If the procedure were 20% of the US price, it would be about a month's allowance, and this is something I could imagine arranging w / my SB.If this is a small part of the package, everything is cheap in Algodones. Botox injections are $8 each. Yep, you heard me right. Veneers are cheap. I just had two dental implants and crowns put in for a grand total of $2350.
In the states they wanted to charge me 8 k. Quality work, too. They do breast enhancements there too. I see a hooker there every time I go. She has a nice set of implants.
I decided to try and an experiment and search for white girls. Was ready to double my highest rate and see what happened. This was about two weeks ago. I haven't even gotten that far before most either flaked or became so entitled that things went south. By entitled, I mean me not answering their texts quickly enough for their tastes. And the language! LOL. None of them are able to move on without hurling insults. It's pretty funny and insightful.
HollywoodGuy
06-12-21, 22:28
I decided to try and an experiment and search for white girls. Was ready to double my highest rate and see what happened. This was about two weeks ago. I haven't even gotten that far before most either flaked or became so entitled that things went south. By entitled, I mean me not answering their texts quickly enough for their tastes. And the language! LOL. None of them are able to move on without hurling insults. It's pretty funny and insightful.I have said it before. These are the girls that report to seeking and then you lose your account. Never get too explicit with them online. Save it for the M&G. And that may not even stop them. Having propositioned thousands of girls on seeking and never been banned, I can only assume it is because of the company I keep.
Real chick if anyone is interested. No bb. Don't expect anything in return but if anyone have any leads to someone as hot, feel free to share.
https://www.seeking.com/member/bb9744ab-0e0b-4b50-a651-cc093dbfd279
AnthonyPat11
06-13-21, 23:40
Real chick if anyone is interested. No bb. Don't expect anything in return but if anyone have any leads to someone as hot, feel free to share.
https://www.seeking.com/member/bb9744ab-0e0b-4b50-a651-cc093dbfd279PPM or did you have an arrangement?
This one is pretty hot, real, 6 GFE, 8 for a trip to Greece.
https://www.seeking.com/member/2d0ed35e-922e-4911-b0a7-ce24be2c87f6
TheSpius19
06-14-21, 01:55
Real chick if anyone is interested. No bb. Don't expect anything in return but if anyone have any leads to someone as hot, feel free to share.
https://www.seeking.com/member/bb9744ab-0e0b-4b50-a651-cc093dbfd279My brutha. She's fiiiiine. Can you give some details? How the meet up go? What'd she want for play & how long? Age? All the deets. Feel free to PM me if you'd prefer to keep in moderately DL.
As for recommendations. I have a few to choose from, but. I'm one of those who likes to fish for the big game and that costs quite a bit more. So what's your range? Are you cool with girls in the 700-1 K range?
OcasianBoy
06-14-21, 02:35
https://www.seeking.com/member/6a656167-38bd-479d-b7f3-ce005c6805cf
This girl straight out says she wants 4 K a month. LOL, hell no.
PPM or did you have an arrangement?
This one is pretty hot, real, 6 GFE, 8 for a trip to Greece.
https://www.seeking.com/member/2d0ed35e-922e-4911-b0a7-ce24be2c87f6She's ppm friendly.
PussyPumper
06-15-21, 03:12
PPM or did you have an arrangement?
This one is pretty hot, real, 6 GFE, 8 for a trip to Greece.
https://www.seeking.com/member/2d0ed35e-922e-4911-b0a7-ce24be2c87f6Most of the reports on here leave out a key detail. When mentioning numbers, are they the girl's initial ask, or a final negotiated figure?
They often differ by a factor of 2 or more, so it matters!
Thanks!
NutritionFacts
06-15-21, 18:27
I was able to 95% close the deal, she is open to meeting for intimacy for sugar. I think she feels safer with me since we talked for a while before. I went to meet up with her briefly at her place on a MG and she's legit. Can't wait!
FarFarAway
06-16-21, 09:30
I was able to 95% close the deal, she is open to meeting for intimacy for sugar. I think she feels safer with me since we talked for a while before. I went to meet up with her briefly at her place on a MG and she's legit. Can't wait!What's GB? I used to use a site, PantyDeal, for similar contacts. It was very limited in that there was no geographic search. I also periodically scan Craigslist for suggestive posts, but not much there anymore in southern CA.
NutritionFacts
06-16-21, 13:04
What's GB? I used to use a site, PantyDeal, for similar contacts. It was very limited in that there was no geographic search. I also periodically scan Craigslist for suggestive posts, but not much there anymore in southern CA.Sorry I meant facebook.
TheHuntsman
06-16-21, 15:30
Last night I was scrolling thru SA and saw Kaci profile. Idk if anyone else remembers her but she was on SA a few years ago but tried to scam people. We had barely talked and she gave a sob story about how she drove to her cousin's but the cousin wasn't there and she didn't have money to get back. I forget how much she asked me for but I think I sent her $20 just to see since 20 isn't a big loss. To try and make me trust her she gave me her real fb page and name. Anyway, she didn't pay back the 20 and when I asked about it she blocked me. Another member mentioned how she was trying to scam money for concert tickets.
Anyway she left the state for a bit with her bf and was begging for money on IG. I hadn't seen her online until last night. I looked up her new IG and sent her a message that I see she's back to trying to scam money from people. She blocked me on IG and either blocked me on SA or deleted her profile.
SB.
Chat / Text / communicate for a few days (Max a month).
Meet in public place. I normally meet at a hotel restaurant / bar. If all is going well, go up to a hotel room for play time.
After a great play time, leave a gift / sugar on the night stand. She will take the sugar, and leave discreetly.
In a SB arrangement, you are always in full control.
Escort / Scam / Pros / Working girl.
They ask you to show up to an incall. Ask for money upfront (cash, venmo, whatever), before any play starts.
Another variation used by, the Real Evil Pros / Sneaky ones, is they will show up to your place / hotel. Ask for money first, and then run out with money.
Please understand any $ given before play: You have lost all control.
In Summary, If you need immediate relief, go to an escort / massage girl (Seniors, DM me for escort / review sites). STAY OUT of SB game.
Soon, I will post 3 simple emails / messages you can use to screen a Pros / Scammer on a SB site.
FirstClass1
06-17-21, 19:20
SB.
Chat / Text / communicate for a few days (Max a month).
Meet in public place. I normally meet at a hotel restaurant / bar. If all is going well, go up to a hotel room for play time.
After a great play time, leave a gift / sugar on the night stand. She will take the sugar, and leave discreetly.
In a SB arrangement, you are always in full control.
Escort / Scam / Pros / Working girl.
They ask you to show up to an incall. Ask for money upfront (cash, venmo, whatever), before any play starts.
Another variation used by, the Real Evil Pros / Sneaky ones, is they will show up to your place / hotel. Ask for money first, and then run out with money.
Please understand any $ given before play: You have lost all control.
In Summary, If you need immediate relief, go to an escort / massage girl (Seniors, DM me for escort / review sites). STAY OUT of SB game.
Soon, I will post 3 simple emails / messages you can use to screen a Pros / Scammer on a SB site.There are men who approach this with a "trick" mentality, and have become accustomed to giving money at the beginning of an interaction, doing whatever the girl tells them to do, and as a result they are preyed upon by scammers and pros who recognize the type.
At no point should there be any money given beforehand. If you play cards right, you can find a beautiful young hottie who will please you far better than any hardened prostitute or Skid Row gutter rat.
There's no point in messaging a scammer on Instagram or elsewhere to confront them, they won't stop scamming because of a DM. If anything, you can warn other guys with a report here, and report them to the sugaring site and move on to a more worthwhile interaction.
PriscillaM
06-17-21, 19:23
SB.
Chat / Text / communicate for a few days (Max a month).
Meet in public place. I normally meet at a hotel restaurant / bar. If all is going well, go up to a hotel room for play time.
After a great play time, leave a gift / sugar on the night stand. She will take the sugar, and leave discreetly.
In a SB arrangement, you are always in full control.
Escort / Scam / Pros / Working girl.
They ask you to show up to an incall. Ask for money upfront (cash, venmo, whatever), before any play starts.
Another variation used by, the Real Evil Pros / Sneaky ones, is they will show up to your place / hotel. Ask for money first, and then run out with money.
Please understand any $ given before play: You have lost all control.
In Summary, If you need immediate relief, go to an escort / massage girl (Seniors, DM me for escort / review sites). STAY OUT of SB game.
Soon, I will post 3 simple emails / messages you can use to screen a Pros / Scammer on a SB site.I am just getting into the SB game because I want to be in full control and I wanted to be sure that sugar babies are fine to let you keep the money until after. I was under the impression that somehow johns were not in control, but obviously the SB scene is much different. Mostly because these girls are nonpros. And like most nonpros they want you to uber them to the meet and greet.
TheHuntsman
06-17-21, 21:00
SB.
Chat / Text / communicate for a few days (Max a month).
Meet in public place. I normally meet at a hotel restaurant / bar. If all is going well, go up to a hotel room for play time.
After a great play time, leave a gift / sugar on the night stand. She will take the sugar, and leave discreetly.
In a SB arrangement, you are always in full control.
Escort / Scam / Pros / Working girl.
They ask you to show up to an incall. Ask for money upfront (cash, venmo, whatever), before any play starts.
Another variation used by, the Real Evil Pros / Sneaky ones, is they will show up to your place / hotel. Ask for money first, and then run out with money.
Please understand any $ given before play: You have lost all control.
In Summary, If you need immediate relief, go to an escort / massage girl (Seniors, DM me for escort / review sites). STAY OUT of SB game.
Soon, I will post 3 simple emails / messages you can use to screen a Pros / Scammer on a SB site.This last year I've seen a girl's advertising their SC on tinder. Once you start following them on SC you see them posting how you have to send them a deposit first before meeting. They will then post messages from men who did it, met them, and will do so again. I'd never give a "deposit" but find it interesting how that try this tactic.
TheHuntsman
06-17-21, 21:16
I haven't really tried to get back on SA, after being banned last year, but I have tried both secret benefits and sugar daddy meet and have had various levels of success. On SDM I received so many messages from girls looking for online only and wanted to share some of their messages.
Last night I was scrolling thru SA and saw Kaci profile. Idk if anyone else remembers her but she was on SA a few years ago but tried to scam people. We had barely talked and she gave a sob story about how she drove to her cousin's but the cousin wasn't there and she didn't have money to get back. I forget how much she asked me for but I think I sent her $20 just to see since 20 isn't a big loss. To try and make me trust her she gave me her real fb page and name. Anyway, she didn't pay back the 20 and when I asked about it she blocked me. Another member mentioned how she was trying to scam money for concert tickets.
Anyway she left the state for a bit with her bf and was begging for money on IG. I hadn't seen her online until last night. I looked up her new IG and sent her a message that I see she's back to trying to scam money from people. She blocked me on IG and either blocked me on SA or deleted her profile.I remember her. I actually picked her up from CSF dorms but nothing happened. Two months later she texted me asking for money like we were friends and shit. She was pretty cute but she got blocked.
Yeah she's a scammer. Don't waste your time.
Any intel on her?
https://www.seeking.com/member/aac4399b-917b-4812-9cd1-f6c706b1a9ed
Addendum: I don't really like working with pros from SA, im looking more for the civi GND types. Im curious though in terms of pros/ pros from SA, what is the batting average on BB? With civi girls ive honestly been able to just go for it and they never say anything but with pros I feel like they will insist on a rubber. And I don't want to discuss it before hand with a pro because then either its just "no", which is fine, but if its "yes" then theyll just use that as leverage to ask for even more $. Im assuming though I should pretty much assume pros will want rubbers by 90% of the time
This last year I've seen a girl's advertising their SC on tinder. Once you start following them on SC you see them posting how you have to send them a deposit first before meeting. They will then post messages from men who did it, met them, and will do so again. I'd never give a "deposit" but find it interesting how that try this tactic.It is asome random, pimply face teenager from Kinosha Wisconsin.
Or Florida.
Nothing good comes out of Florida.
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