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HollywoodGuy
06-17-19, 12:00
Any intel on switter?

HollywoodGuy
06-17-19, 13:04
I love how USASG doesn't log you out anymore. Great for people like me that login a lot.

HollywoodGuy
06-18-19, 01:09
https://www.seeking.com/member/43693c64-e2ac-49e2-a938-7092537d926d

I hate when girls like this favorite me. Out of my league.

RanManCan
06-18-19, 01:45
https://www.seeking.com/member/43693c64-e2ac-49e2-a938-7092537d926d

I hate when girls like this favorite me. Out of my league.Whatevs HG, at 29 she's a granny on this site.

You can get it, but you might have to fork over $$.

Too old for me.

HollywoodGuy
06-18-19, 12:55
Whatevs HG, at 29 she's a granny on this site.

You can get it, but you might have to fork over $$.

Too old for me.Her age is up there for sure. But her body is pretty awesome. I just know from experience, once they get a little older their rates seem to be a little higher, whether warranted or not.

EvilTmp
06-18-19, 14:05
Her age is up there for sure. But her body is pretty awesome. I just know from experience, once they get a little older their rates seem to be a little higher, whether warranted or not.Don't forget to factor in the girl math. If she says she's 29, it's more than likely that she's in her 30's.

Spartacus665
06-18-19, 18:53
My SA account expire and I was trying to read some of the messages I got using the trick. I am sorry to say that the trick does not work anymore.I was disappointed with the new update too, no more "original-bodies" and using our web dev skills to not pay to read messages!

HollywoodGuy
06-18-19, 21:06
Don't forget to factor in the girl math. If she says she's 29, it's more than likely that she's in her 30's.I wouldn't care if she was 50. Her body is awesome.

HollywoodGuy
06-18-19, 21:07
https://www.seeking.com/member/691e94c1-fdaa-48a1-82c7-6f6d3afc6f79

From time to time I will reply to girls that I know I have very little, to no chance with. But she fav'ed me, so I hit her back. This would be a typical response. Thank god the pond is deep and forever being restocked with the wild, willing and grateful girls of L. A.

Her response to my offer
LOL less than 200? Lmao.

Rejection is is good. It toughens you up. And then at some point it become irrelevant. For you new guys, that's when you know you are on your way.

Ks Dark Knight
06-18-19, 22:39
I wouldn't care if she was 50. Her body is awesome.Best blow job I ever had was from a gal in her 50's. Even better when she took her teeth out.

Ks Dark Knight
06-18-19, 22:46
1 - Admitted we were powerless over our insatiable need for fresh hot pussy but that our game had become weak.

2 - Came to believe that a group of guys more knowledgeable than ourselves could school us to success.

3 - Made a decision to turn our will and our sugar dating lives over to the care of our brothers in the bowl.

4 - Made a searching and fearless moral inventory of ourselves.

5 - Admitted to our brothers and to ourselves (but never to a girl) the weakness of our game.

6 - Were entirely ready to remove all remnants of ignorance and low self-esteem.

7 - Humbly asked our brothers for advice.

8 - Made a list of the hot girls on seeking arrangement we wanted to bang and then contacted them all with no fear of being rejected.

9 - Made direct offers to them either online, via texting or at the M&G whenever possible, except when to do so could jeopardize our freedom or bank roll.

10 - Continued to check our game and when it was weak promptly corrected it.

11 - Sought through reading, practical application (and medical supplements when needed) to improve our game as we understood it, praying only for the knowledge to attain better results and the power to carry them out.

12 - Having had our organ drained by dozens of hot girls (at a rate in line with our income) as the result of these steps, we tried to carry this message to our brothers in the sugar bowl and to practice these principles in all our (extramarital) affairs.Hats off to you brother HG. Fucking awesome LOL.

HollywoodGuy
06-19-19, 14:33
I miss my ATF. We had a good year. From 2 weeks after she turned 18 right up to her 19th birthday. That day was a disaster. She was expecting a cool fun bd but I had to work from sun up to sundown. She was pissed and never got over it. Seen her here and there since then, but its basically over.

HollywoodGuy
06-20-19, 11:00
Nice girl. Dated her a few times when she was 18. Now 21 and still on SA. No drama. Search "affection is never a problem" for her profile. She HMU today. Might see her just to be with a familiar face. She was pretty fast forward for her age back then. Curious what she might be like now.

HollywoodGuy
06-20-19, 12:47
My roommate is moving out tomorrow. She has been here 2 years. I'll miss her but it's time for a change. She is the first girl, well actually the second to ever pay me rent to stay here. 1st year we had an arrangement, but when the honeymoon was over I flipped her to a roomy. She has a profile on SA, but good luck finding it. She is very low key.

HollywoodGuy
06-24-19, 15:56
It seems like every girl I ever talked to is hitting me up. Summertime. And I am right in the middle of moving, so no real time to do anything.

HollywoodGuy
06-25-19, 04:54
I am all alone in my house for the first time in about 10 years. No girls living here at all. I may stay an extra month just to do some interviewing and enjoy the peace and quiet. Where I am most likely moving will put a bit of a crimp in my sugaring life till I get a permanent place to live.

Zman429
06-27-19, 00:16
I am all alone in my house for the first time in about 10 years. No girls living here at all. I may stay an extra month just to do some interviewing and enjoy the peace and quiet. Where I am most likely moving will put a bit of a crimp in my sugaring life till I get a permanent place to live.Hollywood come Vegas rent is cheaper and I think most of the girls from Cali are here for the summer and it's been GREAT! LOL.

HollywoodGuy
06-27-19, 00:35
Hollywood come Vegas rent is cheaper and I think most of the girls from Cali are here for the summer and it's been GREAT! LOL.I have seriously considered it. Less girls there but basically the same caliber. I ended up getting a place for 1k a month all in, in the hollywood area. Not so easy to do. So for now I am gonna stay here.

HollywoodGuy
06-27-19, 02:58
Getting closer to this one. She says she has had no luck on SA so far. Hard to imagine.

HollywoodGuy
06-27-19, 15:39
Cause she probably asking for to much and with too many 0's at the end!Well she knows my rate and we are still talking. But this one linked below says she "normally" gets 4 to 6 benji's per date. If a super hot girl tells me that, I believe her. (my ATF gets 3 to 5 per date)(speaking of which she just lost her iphone X that one of her daddies bought her... very frustrating) But this girl? Not likely.

The thing that makes it funny? Is i was sort of clicking on and off her profile, pondering if I should even make her an offer. But she saw that of course and said hi. And I was like, hmmm, she is a bit off the mark (older, heavier than I like). Then made her the offer. Then got her wistful reply. The rental market is just so competitive.

https://www.seeking.com/member/feb51f43-f762-45d8-80cc-541ba2d96218

FarFarAway
06-28-19, 02:07
Messaged a 23 YO classical musician a while back, but it took a long time to cut to the chase. Spoke yesterday and set up initial meeting at a Sbux today. Her profile was nowhere to be found, as was mine, so I shared my pic, seeking one in return, but she just said her profile pics were recent. Oh well. She walks up to me and is thick, but not flabby, just an OK face. We get coffees and she talks constantly, we're compatible in our musical interests. I suggest we speak privately and we adjourn to my car. We cover essential ground w / G-rated conversation on sex interests. HG always says if you get the POT into your car, you should try to kiss her, but she kisses me. Nice enough, I am touching her across the car as we get more explicit in our conversation. We'd been together a while and I needed to depart, so I decide to push matters. She's got a skirt on, bare legs, and I start touching her legs and move up. I am stroking the crotch of her panties and I can see how much she's enjoying it, and only half-heartedly resisting. Talking of how wet she is, I ask her when she last had sex – she's evasive, I'd guess it has been quite a while. She comes back for more kissing as I go under the side of the panties and get my fingers into her. This is in a parking lot of a strip mall near a Sbux, but with a bit of privacy in the shade of a tree. Anyway, she's sopping wet as I go deep and it doesn't take long for her to cum, kissing me all the while. After she comes back from nirvana, she pulls my hand out of her pussy and licks my fingers. We'll go private soon, but I can't imagine a better start. Damn, I love the sugarbowl! I am 60+ and here I am playing this way.

FarFarAway
06-28-19, 14:21
Forgot to mention I asked what got her off, she hesitated a bit and then said 'spanking'. I replied she had a plump butt and that ought to be fine. I then complimented and stroked her neck, it is kinda nice, she was then stimulated to say 'choking' and 'pulling my hair'. Even though I had asked her my standard question to find out her sub tendencies, 'are you the sort of woman who likes her man to be in the lead? And she answered ambiguously, it is clear she is submissive, and I am playing that card as I text w / her in preparation for FC next week.

HollywoodGuy
06-28-19, 16:38
Messaged a 23 YO classical musician a while back, but it took a long time to cut to the chase. Spoke yesterday and set up initial meeting at a Sbux today. Her profile was nowhere to be found, as was mine, so I shared my pic, seeking one in return, but she just said her profile pics were recent. Oh well. She walks up to me and is thick, but not flabby, just an OK face. We get coffees and she talks constantly, we're compatible in our musical interests. I suggest we speak privately and we adjourn to my car. We cover essential ground w / G-rated conversation on sex interests. HG always says if you get the POT into your car, you should try to kiss her, but she kisses me. Nice enough, I am touching her across the car as we get more explicit in our conversation. We'd been together a while and I needed to depart, so I decide to push matters. She's got a skirt on, bare legs, and I start touching her legs and move up. I am stroking the crotch of her panties and I can see how much she's enjoying it, and only half-heartedly resisting. Talking of how wet she is, I ask her when she last had sex she's evasive, I'd guess it has been quite a while. She comes back for more kissing as I go under the side of the panties and get my fingers into her. This is in a parking lot of a strip mall near a Sbux, but with a bit of privacy in the shade of a tree. Anyway, she's sopping wet as I go deep and it doesn't take long for her to cum, kissing me all the while. After she comes back from nirvana, she pulls my hand out of her pussy and licks my fingers. We'll go private soon, but I can't imagine a better start. Damn, I love the sugarbowl! I am 60+ and here I am playing this way.Great report, and far from unusual. I have had more than a few similar encounters at my local sbux as well. It's a good idea to have a few locations pre scouted out near where you know you are going to do your M&G's to accommodate these types of situations. So if the actual M&G spot is no good you can quickly drive to the other spot to continue the conversation with the appropriate amount of privacy.

And I know street mongers do this routinely, but it's always good to bring a trick bag with whatever (condoms, baby wipes, vibrator, etc.) just to be prepared for the unexpected. I always have that in my gym bag in the back seat, just in case. The best part is, when the girl suggests an unpaid M&G and then it goes a little further to an unexpected car date, you basically get a freebie (as you are setting the next/real date/paid date at the notel/home.) And sometimes there is a next date and sometimes there isn't. And it may be you that flakes or her. Lot of variables here. Either way you definitely have more fun than a 3 martini lunch.

TopGun9
06-28-19, 18:45
I miss my ATF. We had a good year. From 2 weeks after she turned 18 right up to her 19th birthday. That day was a disaster. She was expecting a cool fun bd but I had to work from sun up to sundown. She was pissed and never got over it. Seen her here and there since then, but its basically over.I am currently seeing an 18 yr old black coed from SA. You just can't beat the body of a 18/19 yr old petite blacker spinner. 5' and under 100 lbs with no evidence of fat on that tight body. She ran track in high school.

It's true, once you go black there's no turning back.

HollywoodGuy
06-28-19, 20:19
You just can't beat the body of a 18/19 yr old petite blacker spinner. Amen to that. And hallelujah.

Large Ess
07-02-19, 16:40
How things change. The wicked hot 21 year old got back together with her boyfriend. We had two excellent dates and with the other two on the bench I was happy to stay with that line up but it was not to be. We are still in communication and I'm hoping the young'in does something stupid so that she will dump him again. She's a smart woman. Dumps her boyfriend, get some great dinners and gifts while sending him the message he needs to get his act together and when he does, lets him come back. Made her come numerous times with oral which she had never experienced and gave her sweet asshole a tongue lashing that she shuddered over. She's done anal but said now that she had a rim job, she much preferred that. By the way, used a condom on that escapade, I'm not going there without it.

Long term SB and I broke up. She's too far away and didn't want to share me, basically expecting me to be celibate. She "caught feelings" for me as the youth say. Lovely woman and if she was closer and could actually see me, I would've been open to it.

A previous SB reached out to me to scratch her itch. She is a big, beautiful African American woman with a body like a fertility Goddess. She has the most beautiful smile and gives amazing head. She relates that she kinda has a guy she is seeing steady so no fucking but everything else is on the table. We have an awesome time. Throughout she talks about how she has been pretty monogamous since seeing this guy. At the end, she says that she wanted to see me one more time and see how she felt about playing with me while seeing the other guy and is pretty certain that she wants to just play with him. The nerve! After I made her come like nobody's business, LOL.

So if you are keeping track, three gone. And this is why it's a good idea to have a deep bench. I have more than a dozen women ready to go and probably twice as many POT's. I've upped my basic rate with some to see what happens. Some still want $400 to $500 a meet and there's no way I am doing that. There are two or three 10's that I am curious about and have agreed to their asking price but I have yet to meet them. SA is exploding these days with new women joining every ten minutes or so. I'm supposed to meet with a previous SB tomorrow. A lovely Peruvian with an ass the size of Machu Pichu. If she can't make it, I have a full lipped blonde that wants to meet.

FarFarAway
07-02-19, 18:15
now that she had a rim job, she much preferred that. By the way, used a condom on that escapade, I'm not going there without it.Do you mean when you fucked her anal, or when you rimmed her? I also like to rim girls, but I am 99.9% sure they're clean, etc. I don't know how I'd use a condom to rim her. Really? On your tongue?? Not a lubricated one.

HollywoodGuy
07-02-19, 21:24
She relates that she kinda has a guy she is seeing steady so no fucking but everything else is on the table. We have an awesome time. Throughout she talks about how she has been pretty monogamous since seeing this guy. At the end, she says that she wanted to see me one more time and see how she felt about playing with me while seeing the other guy and is pretty certain that she wants to just play with him. I have a girl sorta like that. I knew her before she was married. But about once a year since she got married she gets the itch and everything is on the table but no intercourse (and no sugar). She is not the hot young thing (model) she was 10 years ago, but we're friends so it kinda makes up for it (kinda... lol).

HollywoodGuy
07-04-19, 19:41
So many girls saying they want to meet and then don't. No actual flakes on a date. They just don't follow through to make the date. lol.

But of course when it rains it pours. Today two DTF girls both 5'1" go to make a date with me. One is 23 and the other is 18. I actually got them confused because of their height being the same. But made the date with the 23 y.o. for tonite. She is the less desirable of the two. But picked her because I am not feeling so good today. So I scheduled the 18 y.o. for saturday (pics below are screenshots #1 and #2 from an unsolicited sexy striptease video she sent me), hoping I will be totally up to speed by then (damn summer cold).

I have been messaging them both for a few weeks. The 23 year old (pic #3) is a party girl from a boring part of town that's just grateful to get out of the house and have something to do. But the 18 year old I don't totally get because she is really very pretty but says no one has followed through for a date. She stopped going on the site about a week ago. She almost looks TGTBT. But that's the thing about seeking. There are those random pretty girls (girls that are 7-10's by your standard of beauty), some super popular and some not, that for whatever reason you connect with.

Pic #4 is a 5 foot spinner I am still negotiating with. It's a long shot but well worth the effort.
Pic #5 is another girl from the burbs. Amateur model. Just need to set the date.

HollywoodGuy
07-04-19, 20:46
I can't believe I am sick on a holiday weekend. This totally sucks. But I am using it as an excuse not to see my ATF so I can get a bite at a couple of those tasty cherries below.

Livinitup
07-04-19, 23:08
So many girls saying they want to meet and then don't. No actual flakes on a date. They just don't follow through to make the date. lol.

But of course when it rains it pours. Today two DTF girls both 5'1" go to make a date with me. One is 23 and the other is 18. I actually got them confused because of their height being the same. But made the date with the 23 y.o. for tonite. She is the less desirable of the two. But picked her because I am not feeling so good today. So I scheduled the 18 y.o. for saturday (pics below are screenshots #1 and #2 from an unsolicited sexy striptease video she sent me), hoping I will be totally up to speed by then (damn summer cold).

I have been messaging them both for a few weeks. The 23 year old (pic #3) is a party girl from a boring part of town that's just grateful to get out of the house and have something to do. But the 18 year old I don't totally get because she is really very pretty but says no one has followed through for a date. She stopped going on the site about a week ago. She almost looks TGTBT. But that's the thing about seeking. There are those random pretty girls (girls that are 7-10's by your standard of beauty), some super popular and some not, that for whatever reason you connect with.

Pic #4 is a 5 foot spinner I am still negotiating with. It's a long shot but well worth the effort.
Pic #5 is another girl from the burbs. Amateur model. Just need to set the date.Whoever is #2 is the one. Forget the rest.

Geneva Guy
07-06-19, 19:13
If you guys want to get a laugh, check out reddit and sign up for the Sugare Lifestyle Forum. Lots of SBs on there and the discussions include:

-Why you should get megabucks from an SD for letting him take you to dinner, movies, shopping, etc.

-Why you should not have sex until you have had many platonic dates (with PPM or allowance) or EVER.

-Why you should do a full background check on any potential SDs (criminal financial, etc).

-Why you should never do BBFS / CIP with an SA date (these safe sex discussions on that forum are too much), lots of preaching.

-And much more.

It's really a hoot to read this. These girls are living in some dream world where each SD shells out thousands per month for the pleasure of their company. OH. And they are ALL beautiful women (according to them).

Check it out.

GG.

HollywoodGuy
07-06-19, 22:16
Whoever is #2 is the one. Forget the rest.I had to cancel all my M&G's. Way too sick to do anything but see my ATF. Yeah, number 2 the 18 year old cutie. Just canceled our FC date for tonite. #3 is a UTR thats always around. #4 rejected my offer, and #5 I will see because I like that skinny body.

HollywoodGuy
07-07-19, 00:35
https://www.seeking.com/member/d97f3e26-16bf-4ec1-96e2-8156afce8867

FilleSucre
Hey 100 $ for what? I usually get 500 for like an evening of 2/3 hours.

ME
Out of my league.

First Half
07-07-19, 16:04
If you guys want to get a laugh, check out reddit and sign up for the Sugare Lifestyle Forum. Lots of SBs on there and the discussions include:

-Why you should get megabucks from an SD for letting him take you to dinner, movies, shopping, etc.

-Why you should not have sex until you have had many platonic dates (with PPM or allowance) or EVER.

-Why you should do a full background check on any potential SDs (criminal financial, etc).

-Why you should never do BBFS / CIP with an SA date (these safe sex discussions on that forum are too much), lots of preaching.

-And much more.

It's really a hoot to read this. These girls are living in some dream world where each SD shells out thousands per month for the pleasure of their company. OH. And they are ALL beautiful women (according to them).

Check it out.

GG.Sugar Lifestyle Forum (https://www.reddit.com/r/sugarlifestyleforum/)

MidnightDabber
07-07-19, 18:23
I don't remember who it was by someone wrote up a message pretty mcuh saying "do you want quick sugar now or do you want to get to know a guy? Either way I'm down LOL!" and it really works! I need more of your wisdom.

First Half
07-09-19, 09:59
I don't remember who it was by someone wrote up a message pretty mcuh saying "do you want quick sugar now or do you want to get to know a guy? Either way I'm down LOL!" and it really works! I need more of your wisdom.Lots of info here:

Sugarbaby Thread Highlights, Index, and FAQ (http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?15100-Sugarbaby-Thread-Highlights-Index-and-FAQ)

FarFarAway
07-09-19, 15:03
How things change. The wicked hot 21 year old got back together with her boyfriend. We had two excellent dates and with the other two on the bench I was happy to stay with that line up but it was not to be. We are still in communication and I'm hoping the young'in does something stupid so that she will dump him again. She's a smart woman. Dumps her boyfriend, get some great dinners and gifts while sending him the message he needs to get his act together and when he does, lets him come back. Made her come numerous times with oral which she had never experienced and gave her sweet asshole a tongue lashing that she shuddered over. She's done anal but said now that she had a rim job, she much preferred that. By the way, used a condom on that escapade, I'm not going there without it.I tried to ask you about this by PM but your inbox is full. I therefore posted an inquiry.

Large Ess
07-10-19, 08:47
Do you mean when you fucked her anal, or when you rimmed her? I also like to rim girls, but I am 99.9% sure they're clean, etc. I don't know how I'd use a condom to rim her. Really? On your tongue?? Not a lubricated one.I told the safest way to do a rim job is with a dental damn. I used a flavored condom on my tongue.

FrontPage
07-10-19, 15:05
Just, had a SB tell me that any further communication with her has to be done thru Skype, will not text because of "safety reasons".

Never used it before. What's the pros and cons of using it?

This is her profile;.

https://www.seeking.com/member/17a652d1-e3c6-4386-962d-0b059fbcdc5f

Thanks in advance.

EdNewtonian
07-10-19, 17:47
I would be wary of anyone doing a Skype video chat. There's a few articles on Skype video scams.

https://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-37735369

Basically, you'll see a pre-recorded video of a girl saying she can't talk, but wants you to masturbate, etc.

I'd stick to email and have her meet you at a local coffee shop.

Good luck.


Just, had a SB tell me that any further communication with her has to be done thru Skype, will not text because of "safety reasons".

Never used it before. What's the pros and cons of using it?

This is her profile;.

https://www.seeking.com/member/17a652d1-e3c6-4386-962d-0b059fbcdc5f

Thanks in advance.

FarFarAway
07-10-19, 18:00
Just, had a SB tell me that any further communication with her has to be done thru Skype, will not text because of "safety reasons".

Never used it before. What's the pros and cons of using it?

This is her profile;.

https://www.seeking.com/member/17a652d1-e3c6-4386-962d-0b059fbcdc5f

Thanks in advance.Depends on your situation. Have an SO? I would'nt do it. I don't think you can do an anonymous skype. There is a video chat function on kik I have used before, see if she'll go with that.

PussyPumper
07-10-19, 21:55
Just, had a SB tell me that any further communication with her has to be done thru Skype, will not text because of "safety reasons".

Never used it before. What's the pros and cons of using it?

This is her profile;.

https://www.seeking.com/member/17a652d1-e3c6-4386-962d-0b059fbcdc5f

Thanks in advance.Don't be a Weiner!

MidnightDabber
07-12-19, 19:40
Has anyone tried tinder or another app?

Tipisil
07-12-19, 23:16
Has anyone tried tinder or another app?Check out my posts on whisper. It's an app. Has worked way more for me than tinder ever has.

PussyPumper
07-13-19, 14:13
Been talking to a tall slim / thin beauty for a while. She is obviously on drugs when I am texting her. She repeats questions, can't remember things from a few min before. She also is obviously uninhibited. Offered group sex, threesomes, and says she is "addicted" to cum protein snacks.

Has agreed to meet next week. But I wonder. Little head is screaming for her, while big head is saying that she may be a coke fiend, not just weed, with all the STD and other risks that brings.

What would you folks do?

WoohooSoCal
07-13-19, 20:30
Been talking to a tall slim / thin beauty for a while. She is obviously on drugs when I am texting her. She repeats questions, can't remember things from a few min before. She also is obviously uninhibited. Offered group sex, threesomes, and says she is "addicted" to cum protein snacks.

Has agreed to meet next week. But I wonder. Little head is screaming for her, while big head is saying that she may be a coke fiend, not just weed, with all the STD and other risks that brings.

What would you folks do?I'd punt. Listen to the voice in your big head, it is usually (always) correct.

RanManCan
07-16-19, 13:30
I could have swore someone had a negative report on this one. . . So tempting.

StARrzZiii

https://www.seeking.com/member/10df407f-5821-4d63-902d-3d5e821b508b

PussyPumper
07-16-19, 14:03
I'd punt. Listen to the voice in your big head, it is usually (always) correct.Listened to the big head, for once.

FoxTon
07-16-19, 15:39
I could have swore someone had a negative report on this one. . . So tempting.

StarrzZiii

https://www.seeking.com/member/10df407f-5821-4d63-902d-3d5e821b508bI messaged her. She asked for 800 to meet.

LatinXTony
07-16-19, 18:11
Check out my posts on whisper. It's an app. Has worked way more for me than tinder ever has.Just curious to what's the angle there. See alot of nonsense posts or random topics.

MidnightDabber
07-16-19, 18:32
Anyone have any tips? I think I might help out an old sb but I don't want a paper trail and she's insisting on zelle or venmo and I'd rather not.

RanManCan
07-17-19, 02:06
Anyone have any tips? I think I might help out an old sb but I don't want a paper trail and she's insisting on zelle or venmo and I'd rather not.If she can make use of a card, Vanilla One prepaid card go upto $500.7-11 in my area doesn't require I'd, but CVS does above about 300.

Else, best I know of is bitcoin ATM, which is likely to require a phone number (bring your burner phone) and may snap a pic of you (wear a hat). You *might* be able to find a similar style ATM that does venmo.

Or, just go into any branch of her bank with cash and deposit directly into her account.

RanManCan
07-17-19, 02:09
I could have swore someone had a negative report on this one. . . So tempting.

StARrzZiii

https://www.seeking.com/member/10df407f-5821-4d63-902d-3d5e821b508bI could have swore one of you gents reported her as claiming to be a student, but had her pimp calling her throughout the meet.

I've looked, anyone know where that post is?

HollywoodGuy
07-17-19, 23:48
I could have swore one of you gents reported her as claiming to be a student, but had her pimp calling her throughout the meet.

I've looked, anyone know where that post is?She is very tempting as long as GPS is not an obstacle to your satisfaction. (as she basically has it written proudly all over her).

HapaBoy86
07-18-19, 00:28
Anyone have any tips? I think I might help out an old sb but I don't want a paper trail and she's insisting on zelle or venmo and I'd rather not.So, will you be getting some personal services for sending $? Or, she is just waiting for the $ than she goes silent cause she just possibly ripped you off?

Never send chicks $ or these apps. Too easy for them to rip people off!

Poksman
07-18-19, 01:38
Anyone have any tips? I think I might help out an old sb but I don't want a paper trail and she's insisting on zelle or venmo and I'd rather not.Use a pseudonym and email. Transfer first from your real PayPal to this pseudonym. And send her $ thru this.

Kreota
07-18-19, 01:54
I would be wary of anyone doing a Skype video chat. There's a few articles on Skype video scams.

https://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-37735369

Basically, you'll see a pre-recorded video of a girl saying she can't talk, but wants you to masturbate, etc.

I'd stick to email and have her meet you at a local coffee shop.

Good luck.Someone tried to scam me this way, too. I used a fake skype account linked to a fake email. She kept asking questions about me, my name, where I lived (asked for the cross streets, too. What I did, etc. Likely because she couldn't find out who I was. When it came to the webcam session, she was voice only and I only showed her me masturbating from the waist down. She kept insisting I show my face as I lick her vagina. She had a hot voice so it was kind of fun, but the most she saw was my tongue LOL.

RanManCan
07-18-19, 13:59
"You MUST believe climate change is real. I'm not into in dunning-kruger public education failures. ".

Haha, I've learned to never talk politics w / the youngins, they're nutso.

PriscillaM
07-18-19, 15:07
"You MUST believe climate change is real. I'm not into in dunning-kruger public education failures. ".

Haha, I've learned to never talk politics w / the youngins, they're nutso.The good news is that if there is climate change due to human emissions, the only way to stop it would be to exterminate a couple continents.

PussyPumper
07-18-19, 16:56
"You MUST believe climate change is real. I'm not into in dunning-kruger public education failures. ".
So, what's the bottom line? "Save the planet. No hot sex for you!

RanManCan
07-19-19, 04:06
So, what's the bottom line? "Save the planet. No hot sex for you!I think the bottom line is "I'm kind of a ***** and have no idea how to market myself, so here's your warning".

RanManCan
07-19-19, 04:20
It's been a bountiful half year for me in the bowl. Met and enjoyed more than I ever could have imagined.

Several don't hide that they are "experienced". While I'm certainly attracted to the newer, I don't mind the occasional woman who knows what she's doing, and they have good stories.

But, I've had several who said I was their first intimate experience on SA. This has happened a lot. Off the top of my head I can recall at least 4, I'll probably think of more later.

Just today, I had a coffee-only date with a 25 yr woman who wasn't shy about her many years of experience. Later in the evening, a 19 yr came directly to the FC, upon arrival telling me this was her first time ever doing this.

I think most people are terrible liars, they have me pretty convinced.

Ok gents, tell me how naive I am.

RanManCan
07-19-19, 04:23
Oops 5, almost forgot about the virgin. Haha, I'm a spoiled fuck.

RanManCan
07-19-19, 04:33
I have noticed that women with very rigid or even manly looking faces in their pics turn out to be some of the most beautiful in person.

That's your pointer for the day, from a novice.

Desinoah
07-19-19, 07:15
I am pretty new to sugar daddy sites and finally after 2 months, one SB has decided to meet me and asked me what do I have in my mind? It might sound very basic but wanted to know about SB / SD arrangements and first meeting with SB.

I have FWB, NSA tags in my seeking sections so I have made my intentions clear that I am looking to just have fun. Should I discuss about of arrangement when I meet SB or over SA messages first?

Thanks in advance!

FarFarAway
07-19-19, 12:16
I am pretty new to sugar daddy sites and finally after 2 months, one SB has decided to meet me and asked me what do I have in my mind? It might sound very basic but wanted to know about SB / SD arrangements and first meeting with SB.

I have FWB, NSA tags in my seeking sections so I have made my intentions clear that I am looking to just have fun. Should I discuss about of arrangement when I meet SB or over SA messages first?

Thanks in advance!On getting as far as you have. You should spend a few days reading all of the recent posts and archived posts on the Richmond, VA sugar thread. IK, it is hard to figure out why that one, but it has become the de facto national thread for sugaring.

RanManCan
07-19-19, 13:11
Read the "basic" education: http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?15100-Sugarbaby-Thread-Highlights-Index-and-FAQ.


one SB has decided to meet meWith a little more experience, you will be saying "I decided to meet her". That should be your goal, just need to do some reading on the links provided and get started. Two months seems a hellaofa long time. I started by reading the Richmond threads listed above and below and was meeting immediately.


what do I have in my mind?She has no idea what you want or how you want the date to flow. There are some dudes that really just want to hang out and play video games, you need to make clear that is not the case. You could say something like "meet at coffee shop / drinks / dinner, if we like each other then we can go somewhere private" that will be clear to her.


I have FWB, NSA tagsThese tags are pretty meaningless and nobody really looks at them, unless they say "platonic" or "marriage minded".


I have made my intentions clear that I am looking to just have fun.Video games are fun, gokarts are fun. She probably already knows you didn't plan on taking her to the library, church, or a graveyard. Again, fairly meaningless.


Should I discuss about of arrangement when I meet SB or over SA messages first?You want to get the chat off the site just about as soon as she replies, you can do text, kik, whatsapp, snap, email, etc. Much easier / safer if you have a burner phone. Getting off the site makes communications much faster and less likely to get you banned on SA for saying the wrong thing.

As for specifics, that somewhat depends on her. There is no reason for you to bring this up, but be ready with an answer if/when she asks. More transactional women will want to discuss specifics before meeting, actual SBs are less likely to require that. In the beginning, you probably want to give them an answer if they ask, and then only via text / chat or in person, just to get a few dates under your belt, you will refine this technique over time and it is much discussed at the links above and below. In many of my early dates, it was never discussed and I just slipped something into her purse or jeans after the deed was done.

Over time, continue your "advanced" educational reading on the other Richmond thread: http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?9746-quot-Sugarbabies-quot-quot-Arrangements-quot-Amateurs-or-Not.

DogBert77
07-19-19, 21:26
In many of my early dates, it was never discussed and I just slipped something into her purse or jeans after the deed was done.

This is still my preferred M. O. I think I am something of a minority on this topic, but a high priority for me is sorting out the SB's from the pro's. There is no better way to do that than to see if you can fuck them without discussing price, so that is always my goal. If they are hot and I need to discuss price, I try to push it back as far as possible. Never discuss price on the SA website, that will get you banned. If they want to talk about it via text, I try to get them to meet in person and say we can talk about it then. When I meet them in person, I don't bring it up unless they do. Some girls are really shy about discussing money, because they don't want to feel like a pro. Those tend to be the girls I like best.

I try to make it feel like a date, not a transaction. They know you want to fuck them. God, every female over the age of twelve knows this. It's amazingly easy to accomplish once you meet them in person.

I will also second the advice to study up on the Richmond board and it FAQ. I learned a ton from that before contacting my first SB. I was getting meets and getting laid immediately. The very first girl said she was new to SA, although she didn't try to pretend she was inexperienced. She didn't even know what PPM meant. I was able to pass for an experienced daddy because I had studied up. I did a coffee M&G, she didn't want to hook up that afternoon, but came to my hotel the next night, no problem. She did ask about allowance in between. I made her an offer, and she replied with "that would be awesome!" That was a great experience. My second SB was two days later and absolutely off the charts. Met her in the hotel bar, was in bed with her a couple hours later. Super hot girl, bareback all the way. Never mentioned money, I stuffed cash in her purse afterwards. I was hooked. I avoided a lot of rip-offs, scams and time wasters by applying the wisdom from the boards.

I don't know why its taking you two months, but the good news is you will get better with practice.

Scwww
07-19-19, 21:48
Found on Fetlife. Dria. Dreia. Anyone try her?

https://fetlife.com/users/8310384

https://mobile.twitter.com/submissivedria?lang=en

http://www.instagram.com/driasubmits/?hl=en

http://driasubmits.com/

RanManCan
07-19-19, 22:25
This is still my preferred M. O. I think I am something of a minority on this topicDogBert, I agree with you that is the best experience!

Desinoah just needs to get his willy wet a few times, two months is forever in this game. My advice to him is to answer if they ask, but don't bring it up.

Desinoah - one more thing. Try to get them to meet today or tomorrow. Going beyond that and the likelihood of it not happening significantly increases. "I normally schedule things in advance, but I'd really like to meet you. I'm free tonight" note you are not actually asking but she knows its there for the taking. Some of them don't like same day they same way they don't like discussing money, makes them feel cheap. And the semi/pros will jump on this too.

Christophe1
07-21-19, 16:37
I am platonic with an awesome bodied, works out at equinox lady who's father is dying in China. She resides in my favorite palisides and is just realizing that her parents will not provide freebies forever.

Her body is Aphrodite, her face is 7, and she is realizing that she has not got the talents to survive on her own merits.

I prescribe to do.

Anyone know how to introduce a young (30) lady to sugar?

Help would be appreciated. If I was LUCKY enough to be in LA I would be sympathy fucking her to Nirvanna.

If you live in SM and want a virgin Sugar Baby. Please help me.

I hate to think this exceptional love should suffer.

Peace be with you.

HollywoodGuy
07-21-19, 21:42
It's been a bountiful half year for me in the bowl. Met and enjoyed more than I ever could have imagined.

Several don't hide that they are "experienced". While I'm certainly attracted to the newer, I don't mind the occasional woman who knows what she's doing, and they have good stories.

But, I've had several who said I was their first intimate experience on SA. This has happened a lot. Off the top of my head I can recall at least 4, I'll probably think of more later.

Just today, I had a coffee-only date with a 25 yr woman who wasn't shy about her many years of experience. Later in the evening, a 19 yr came directly to the FC, upon arrival telling me this was her first time ever doing this.

I think most people are terrible liars, they have me pretty convinced.

Ok gents, tell me how naive I am.If a girl is 18 or 19 it is very possible it is their first time. They can also b very experienced, as many start at ages we won't mention. But every girl has to have a first time with someone. It might as well be you.

Tipisil
07-22-19, 03:41
I am platonic with an awesome bodied, works out at equinox lady who's father is dying in China. She resides in my favorite palisides and is just realizing that her parents will not provide freebies forever.

Her body is Aphrodite, her face is 7, and she is realizing that she has not got the talents to survive on her own merits.

I prescribe to do.

Anyone know how to introduce a young (30) lady to sugar?

Help would be appreciated. If I was LUCKY enough to be in LA I would be sympathy fucking her to Nirvanna.

If you live in SM and want a virgin Sugar Baby. Please help me.

I hate to think this exceptional love should suffer.

Peace be with you.I'll be staying in Santa Monica for the next few days on business. Pm me her info and I'll get her started.

BamBam
07-22-19, 11:33
I am using Google Voice on my Mac in Incognito Mode. When I am texting there is an "add Image" icon to the left of the text box. When I click on it, I am taken to a location for which no file name is given or indicated. However, shown are screen shots of every profile and picture I have captured while on Seeking. It has these going back to 2015 about when I started. It does not include any other screen shots taken elsewhere or at other times. It does not allow me to move up a level to attach images from another location. I have tried using finder to identify the file location but cannot find them. Typically, when I use screen capture on my Mac, the image is saved to my desk top. I then move those images to a gmail draft folder. Afterwards, I move the image to trash and then empty the trash can. I thought my process would ensure no lasting image would be preserved on my computer. Does anybody know what is going on here?

I am perplexed.

Thanks!

Bam.

VisitingGent
07-22-19, 13:07
I am platonic with an awesome bodied, works out at equinox lady who's father is dying in China. She resides in my favorite palisides and is just realizing that her parents will not provide freebies forever.

Her body is Aphrodite, her face is 7, and she is realizing that she has not got the talents to survive on her own merits.

I prescribe to do.

Anyone know how to introduce a young (30) lady to sugar?

Help would be appreciated. If I was LUCKY enough to be in LA I would be sympathy fucking her to Nirvanna.

If you live in SM and want a virgin Sugar Baby. Please help me.

I hate to think this exceptional love should suffer.

Peace be with you.I live really close to SM, so happy to connect with her!

FarFarAway
07-22-19, 13:18
I am using Google Voice on my Mac in Incognito Mode. When I am texting there is an "add Image" icon to the left of the text box. When I click on it, I am taken to a location for which no file name is given or indicated. However, shown are screen shots of every profile and picture I have captured while on Seeking. It has these going back to 2015 about when I started. It does not include any other screen shots taken elsewhere or at other times. It does not allow me to move up a level to attach images from another location. I have tried using finder to identify the file location but cannot find them. Typically, when I use screen capture on my Mac, the image is saved to my desk top. I then move those images to a gmail draft folder. Afterwards, I move the image to trash and then empty the trash can. I thought my process would ensure no lasting image would be preserved on my computer. Does anybody know what is going on here?

I am perplexed.

Thanks!

Bam.I do almost what you do, except, IDK what incognito mode is, my laptop is old, maybe that's new. I use the EPIC browser, which has its own builtin in VPN. Anyway, I do lots of the things you do. I also can click that 'add image' icon in the text window, the window that opens has 3 tabs. Your photos, Photo albums, and upload photos. I have a couple of my 'real' photos in the first. I presume that these are there from past things I have sent via GV. I don't necessarily like those being in google's hands, but don't have alternatives. I looked into the second tab for the first time. There's a video there a girl sent me long ago, but when I click it it goes away. Oh well. When you click the third tab you get a dialog that you can use to add photos from your computer to the text. I've done that many times, with a wide variety of photos, and with no ill effects.

BamBam
07-22-19, 17:46
I also see the three tabs. You are correct: the third tab will let me load photos from my computer. The first tab has photos I have saved from seeking. The second tab has all the photos I have saved to a very private ********.com blog. It has the photos saved in a folder using the name of the blog. It appears to me that Chrome is somehow saving these photos and mking them available in Google Voice. Where else might they be stored? This is bugging me! How did they do this without asking?

Bam.


I do almost what you do, except, IDK what incognito mode is, my laptop is old, maybe that's new. I use the EPIC browser, which has its own builtin in VPN. Anyway, I do lots of the things you do. I also can click that 'add image' icon in the text window, the window that opens has 3 tabs. Your photos, Photo albums, and upload photos. I have a couple of my 'real' photos in the first. I presume that these are there from past things I have sent via GV. I don't necessarily like those being in google's hands, but don't have alternatives. I looked into the second tab for the first time. There's a video there a girl sent me long ago, but when I click it it goes away. Oh well. When you click the third tab you get a dialog that you can use to add photos from your computer to the text. I've done that many times, with a wide variety of photos, and with no ill effects.

HollywoodGuy
07-22-19, 20:23
I also see the three tabs. You are correct: the third tab will let me load photos from my computer. The first tab has photos I have saved from seeking. The second tab has all the photos I have saved to a very private ********.com blog. It has the photos saved in a folder using the name of the blog. It appears to me that Chrome is somehow saving these photos and mking them available in Google Voice. Where else might they be stored? This is bugging me! How did they do this without asking?

Bam.I used to work for them (google). Trust me they do a lot of shit you don't know about. Like saving any info they have on you that they think they can somehow monetize in the future is going to be saved.

Decoy Dog
07-22-19, 22:06
I am using Google Voice on my Mac in Incognito Mode. When I am texting there is an "add Image" icon to the left of the text box. When I click on it, I am taken to a location for which no file name is given or indicated. However, shown are screen shots of every profile and picture I have captured while on Seeking. It has these going back to 2015 about when I started. It does not include any other screen shots taken elsewhere or at other times. It does not allow me to move up a level to attach images from another location. I have tried using finder to identify the file location but cannot find them. Typically, when I use screen capture on my Mac, the image is saved to my desk top. I then move those images to a gmail draft folder. Afterwards, I move the image to trash and then empty the trash can. I thought my process would ensure no lasting image would be preserved on my computer. Does anybody know what is going on here?

I am perplexed.

Thanks!

Bam.If someone hasn't already said so, try going to Google Photos you should be able to remove them from there. It functions like Photo Stream in the Apple world but seems more aggressive and doesn't roll off after 30 days. You might have also connected Google to other services and it'll scrape images and videos from there also. I found this out by trying what you did above and got a list of images and videos from my spare Android phone I have around.

Christophe1
07-23-19, 10:52
I'll be staying in Santa Monica for the next few days on business. Pm me her info and I'll get her started.I planted the seed and will check back with her in a few days. Upon analysis of her financials she'll need 5 k a month with the bulk going to SMC as she is an International student. I think she may have been inquiring if I would marry her as that would lower her monthly expense by 2 k. Upon further investigation she has a list of potential employments although none would satisfy her present monetary needs and she would not be working with the proper documents which could further hinder her likelihood of employment success. Furthermore if she were to return to China given the gravity of US. China relations she may not be unable to return. She loves the freedoms she enjoys here.

I will send her to seeking for fun to see if she creates a profile to which I will forward.

Tipisil
07-23-19, 17:29
I planted the seed and will check back with her in a few days. Upon analysis of her financials she'll need 5 k a month with the bulk going to SMC as she is an International student. I think she may have been inquiring if I would marry her as that would lower her monthly expense by 2 k. Upon further investigation she has a list of potential employments although none would satisfy her present monetary needs and she would not be working with the proper documents which could further hinder her likelihood of employment success. Furthermore if she were to return to China given the gravity of US. China relations she may not be unable to return. She loves the freedoms she enjoys here.

I will send her to seeking for fun to see if she creates a profile to which I will forward.Thanks for looking out.

MidnightDabber
07-24-19, 15:24
She's in her mid 20's and she said she needed 250 for gifts for someone? Anyways I was going to help her out anyways but she mentioned we can play later and fulfill some fantasies but I'm cautious. She's also calling me love and babe a lot, isn't that a red flag for a pro now? But she doesn't seem like one when we met but I don't know about now. What should I do?

PussyPumper
07-24-19, 20:57
She's in her mid 20's and she said she needed 250 for gifts for someone? Anyways I was going to help her out anyways but she mentioned we can play later and fulfill some fantasies but I'm cautious. She's also calling me love and babe a lot, isn't that a red flag for a pro now? But she doesn't seem like one when we met but I don't know about now. What should I do?How many times have you dated her?

Why not schedule a real date, and provide her allowance as usual?

RanManCan
07-25-19, 03:08
How many times have you dated her?

Why not schedule a real date, and provide her allowance as usual?"play later" never works. In my experience it will end the relationship.

I had several wonderful dates with an absolutely gorgeous slip 'and slide, then she had to take a 10-day break to go back east to see family. 8 days later she asked me to advance a date allowance so she could buy her return ticket and said she'd make it up to me in a date. I have her real name, FB, IG, know who / where her family is and she wasn't lying about being there. So I sent her the advance.

When she returned, she informed me she would require full allowance for another date.

Obviously, that was the end of that.

I thought about agreeing and then booting her out at the end. . . but I never take those types of risks. The pittance of cash isn't worth it.

MidnightDabber
07-25-19, 12:50
Was thinking with the little head, she might be a good person but she kept changing how much she needs and lowering the price, it raised some flags. I stopped responding to her messages a few days ago. I will not be sending her anything. Thank you.

Inmyleague26
07-28-19, 20:39
Any intel on switter?I like switter, it's basic but there are a lot of fake ads. They currently are not accepting new members.

FarFarAway
07-29-19, 18:52
Interesting profile, if real:

https://www.seeking.com/member/10f7df4e-82f5-46a0-9ffb-0fcbc172d732

I'd be interested and maybe available, 100% straight.

RanManCan
07-30-19, 04:08
"Come inside me?

https://www.seeking.com/member/cd4b64a6-4f89-4d0c-8223-c1f598ffd6e0

"I'm studying psychology!" - hahahahahah!

Haha, I won't be anywhere near that, but would love to hear the stories!

ATown98
07-30-19, 10:45
https://www.seeking.com/member/b7322b29-e511-405f-88e5-51922746c346

She's a 10/10 20 year old blonde. Face like a young Rosamund Pike and hot body. I met up with her and she was shy, flirty, and cute, but she has $$ expectations, which I attribute to her being new. Also she asked for money for Ubers at the end of our date, which was annoying, but I obliged. Maybe she can be brought down? Not sure how much longer she'll be in LA, but if anyone lands her, report back please.

RanManCan
08-01-19, 15:23
This is a first for me. . .

Beautiful little 18 y old asks me to meet her where she strips.

Could be just to draw a customer, but seems a lot of effort for that purpose.

I'm guessing she feels secure there with bouncers, gives her a chance to vet me in person. A naked M&G.

I might go, if nothing else going on that night. . . Bit of a drive and the whole stripper thing doesn't totally do it for me, seems a little low class when I've been hitting the Universities pretty well.

I wouldn't want to lavish cash at her, but wouldn't want to be mr cheapskate either. I guess the more time she voluntarily spends with me would be telling.

Feedback requested. . .

. . This forum a little slow lately, where you at HG?

BigLick90
08-01-19, 18:44
This is a first for me. . .

Beautiful little 18 y old asks me to meet her where she strips.

Could be just to draw a customer, but seems a lot of effort for that purpose.

I'm guessing she feels secure there with bouncers, gives her a chance to vet me in person. A naked M&G.

I might go, if nothing else going on that night. . . Bit of a drive and the whole stripper thing doesn't totally do it for me, seems a little low class when I've been hitting the Universities pretty well.

I wouldn't want to lavish cash at her, but wouldn't want to be mr cheapskate either. I guess the more time she voluntarily spends with me would be telling.

Feedback requested. . .

. . This forum a little slow lately, where you at HG?I've found this a few times and it's always been so they can use you as a customer. Never leads to anything.

Mile22
08-02-19, 12:54
This is a first for me. . .

Beautiful little 18 y old asks me to meet her where she strips.

Could be just to draw a customer, but seems a lot of effort for that purpose.

I'm guessing she feels secure there with bouncers, gives her a chance to vet me in person. A naked M&G.

I might go, if nothing else going on that night. . . Bit of a drive and the whole stripper thing doesn't totally do it for me, seems a little low class when I've been hitting the Universities pretty well.

I wouldn't want to lavish cash at her, but wouldn't want to be mr cheapskate either. I guess the more time she voluntarily spends with me would be telling.

Feedback requested. . .

. . This forum a little slow lately, where you at HG?I've had convos with more than one stripper who have asked me to do the same.

She is 100% running game on you.

If you ask to meet somewhere with less distraction than a strip club, where you can have an actual conversation, chances are they will reply something along the lines of "I feel safer there with security, around people that I know".

Ask if she expects you to spend $ on her at the club when you visit, and see what she says. Or, better yet, tell her you have no plans to drop money on a dance your first time meeting her & see her reaction.

Pretty sure those girls use SA as a fishing pond to lure johns & the game is easy to discern.

Ks Dark Knight
08-04-19, 18:42
Read the "basic" education: http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?15100-Sugarbaby-Thread-Highlights-Index-and-FAQ.

With a little more experience, you will be saying "I decided to meet her". That should be your goal, just need to do some reading on the links provided and get started. Two months seems a hellaofa long time. I started by reading the Richmond threads listed above and below and was meeting immediately.

She has no idea what you want or how you want the date to flow. There are some dudes that really just want to hang out and play video games, you need to make clear that is not the case. You could say something like "meet at coffee shop / drinks / dinner, if we like each other then we can go somewhere private" that will be clear to her.

These tags are pretty meaningless and nobody really looks at them, unless they say "platonic" or "marriage minded".

Video games are fun, gokarts are fun. She probably already knows you didn't plan on taking her to the library, church, or a graveyard. Again, fairly meaningless.

You want to get the chat off the site just about as soon as she replies, you can do text, kik, whatsapp, snap, email, etc. Much easier / safer if you have a burner phone. Getting off the site makes communications much faster and less likely to get you banned on SA for saying the wrong thing.

As for specifics, that somewhat depends on her. There is no reason for you to bring this up, but be ready with an answer if/when she asks. More transactional women will want to discuss specifics before meeting, actual SBs are less likely to require that. In the beginning, you probably want to give them an answer if they ask, and then only via text / chat or in person, just to get a few dates under your belt, you will refine this technique over time and it is much discussed at the links above and below. In many of my early dates, it was never discussed and I just slipped something into her purse or jeans after the deed was done.

Over time, continue your "advanced" educational reading on the other Richmond thread: http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?9746-quot-Sugarbabies-quot-quot-Arrangements-quot-Amateurs-or-Not.Can anybody give me some suggestions on how to get back on sa after being banned? They always link my credit card to my real name and reject it.

Avash88
08-04-19, 20:40
Change IP address for your internet, Clear all cookies and browser history, Get a walmart credit card that allows international purchases, Put up new pics that you never uploaded to Sa or someone that looks like you pics. Never mention allowances online. Just don't ever login to site with your previous IP address or the name of the account you got banned in.


Can anybody give me some suggestions on how to get back on sa after being banned? They always link my credit card to my real name and reject it.

HollywoodGuy
08-05-19, 02:41
Just came back from apt. hunting in Vegas. The move looks eminent. Talked to a few sugar babes. There are far fewer but definitely some nice ones. Got two to agree to my terms while I was there. Actually 3 but I ditched on the one planned date I had set up. Looking forward to meeting the other two when I go back. Going to take my ATF with me. Let's see how that goes. But I have to consider she may ditch in any number of ways.

Tipisil
08-05-19, 09:38
Just came back from apt. hunting in Vegas. The move looks eminent. Talked to a few sugar babes. There are far fewer but definitely some nice ones. Got two to agree to my terms while I was there. Actually 3 but I ditched on the one planned date I had set up. Looking forward to meeting the other two when I go back. Going to take my ATF with me. Let's see how that goes. But I have to consider she may ditch in any number of ways.I'll make sure to keep following your sage advice and posts on the Vegas thread.

PussyPumper
08-07-19, 15:25
Has moved to LA.

https://www.seeking.com/member/584900eb-b870-42f4-adb6-f549985cba0c

Ks Dark Knight
08-08-19, 00:35
Change IP address for your internet, Clear all cookies and browser history, Get a walmart credit card that allows international purchases, Put up new pics that you never uploaded to Sa or someone that looks like you pics. Never mention allowances online. Just don't ever login to site with your previous IP address or the name of the account you got banned in.Gotcha and I really appreciate the info. One question. I never heard of chnging your IP address. How is that done? Thanks again.

HowdyDoody32
08-08-19, 00:50
Gotcha and I really appreciate the info. One question. I never heard of chnging your IP address. How is that done? Thanks again.

I use vyprvpn. There are lots of vpns nowadays, I just use the one that comes along with my usenet access which I use for torrents as well.

HollywoodGuy
08-08-19, 14:03
Has moved to LA.

https://www.seeking.com/member/584900eb-b870-42f4-adb6-f549985cba0cShe is a 10 in my book. Whats her rate?

PussyPumper
08-09-19, 00:45
She is a 10 in my book. Whats her rate?Answered via PM.

Candle Rock
08-11-19, 05:23
Answered via PM.Can you PM me her rate also? She fine af.

HollywoodGuy
08-11-19, 16:02
Supposed to meet this one after she gets off work tonite. Hope she makes it.

HollywoodGuy
08-13-19, 13:43
When you hit the hide button on seeking. And the profile won't hide.

BlueEyedMan58
08-14-19, 00:32
When you hit the hide button on seeking. And the profile won't hide.You trying to hide you from them, or them from you? You can always use block if it's really needed.

MonkeyMonger
08-14-19, 02:07
I've made contact and supposed to meet her later in the week. What's her rate. Is bb in the table?


Has moved to LA.

https://www.seeking.com/member/584900eb-b870-42f4-adb6-f549985cba0c

MonkeyMonger
08-14-19, 02:08
I'm happy to pm the rate we've agreed on.


I've made contact and supposed to meet her later in the week. What's her rate. Is bb in the table?

HollywoodGuy
08-14-19, 02:15
I've made contact and supposed to meet her later in the week. What's her rate. Is bb in the table?I would do her with two condoms on. LOL.

HollywoodGuy
08-14-19, 21:05
We are moving to vegas next week.

PussyPumper
08-14-19, 22:21
We are moving to vegas next week.May the road rise to meet you!

HollywoodGuy
08-15-19, 19:50
May the road rise to meet you!Thanks. BTW, getting a lease agreement there is like a stack of paperwork the likes of which I have never seen. Including a paper that says I will not be selling drugs or promoting prostitution from the said dwelling. The only good thing is, it seems every apt in vegas has a choice of 3, 6 and 12 month leases. Obviously a very transient place.

Also I have now chatted up about a dozen POTS in vegas. I do not see a problem meeting girls there at all. I have read the vegas threads on multiple topics, (sugar, casino girls & my new fascination "latina houses"). Kinda looking forward to meeting some non L.A. girls that might be a little more chill and grateful. The ones I have been talking to so far seem very sweet and nice in general.

I mean it has to be a little harder for a girl to get something steady and local, as most of the big money being spent there is random and from out of towners. Which is great for the girls chasing that money, but impossible for the type of girl that can't or won't do that. Which is the type I am focusing on to the best of my ability.

And the "latina houses" are obviously the best bargain in town with the least amount of drama. I don't habla espanol so not totally sure if I can navigate it. But some of the girls look pretty nice and at .6 to .8 plus .2 for the tip, the rates are AOK for a man in need of a 30 minute diversion. And with no money wasted on a no-tel.

As per to be expected the brothers that are locals and posting are negotiating better rates than the visitors that don't have the time or budgetary constraints to bother with that.

DogBert77
08-16-19, 01:12
The only good thing is, it seems every apt in vegas has a choice of 3, 6 and 12 month leases. I got to beleive there is one other good thing about the apartments: the rent. It must be a lot lower than LA.

HollywoodGuy
08-16-19, 02:33
I got to beleive there is one other good thing about the apartments: the rent. It must be a lot lower than LA.It's the only reason I am moving there.

HollywoodGuy
08-18-19, 02:35
I may be staying in L. A. or it could all be BS. I may have gotten a job offer I can't refuse. If it comes with an apartment and a two month advance I will stay, otherwise I am gone. I have officially ditched my ATF. So she is not in any of my plans rn. I got 6 POTS in vegas waiting for me to show up, all at a $ and all DTF 18-20 year olds. In the meantime got a date for tomorrow with a freshman at USC on a track scholarship. Not so pretty but a perfect body. And right now that's what I need, something tight to play with.

HapaBoy86
08-18-19, 02:59
In the meantime got a date for tomorrow with a freshman at USC on a track scholarship. Not so pretty but a perfect body. Pic of USC freshman or doesn't exists. LOL.

HollywoodGuy
08-18-19, 12:33
Pic of USC freshman or doesn't exists. LOL.Not at this time. Like most (but not all guys), I only wanna post the pretty girls.

Zman429
08-18-19, 13:59
I may be staying in L. A. or it could all be BS. I may have gotten a job offer I can't refuse. If it comes with an apartment and a two month advance I will stay, otherwise I am gone. I have officially ditched my ATF. So she is not in any of my plans rn. I got 6 POTS in vegas waiting for me to show up, all at a $ and all DTF 18-20 year olds. In the meantime got a date for tomorrow with a freshman at USC on a track scholarship. Not so pretty but a perfect body. And right now that's what I need, something tight to play with.Vegas has been great this summer. Hope it lasts looking forward to your posts in Vegas. PS try tinder very active but lot of high priced pros to weed out which I'm not patient enough for maybe I'll try working on that. Been having alot of luck with the pros at your price point.

HollywoodGuy
08-18-19, 17:01
Vegas has been great this summer. Hope it lasts looking forward to your posts in Vegas. PS try tinder very active but lot of high priced pros to weed out which I'm not patient enough for maybe I'll try working on that. Been having alot of luck with the pros at your price point.Thanks for the tinder advice. I am a total loser at that, but I am slowly working out a profile that is at least getting the hot horny girls to respond. I did a enough re-con to have half a dozen SB's waiting for me to arrive in vegas. On a 1 to 5 scale of amateurs to total pros, I have them across the board, half with really tight bodies. All young of course. Nothing going to be final for a couple more days though. And all at the price point of course.

PriscillaM
08-18-19, 17:23
Not at this time. Like most (but not all guys), I only wanna post the pretty girls.Can't wait for the stories of fucking girls at UNLV on cardcounting scholarships. All non pros, natch.

HollywoodGuy
08-18-19, 20:20
Can't wait for the stories of fucking girls at UNLV on cardcounting scholarships. All non pros, natch.All non pros, natch. (except when they're not)

HollywoodGuy
08-18-19, 20:21
HER
I am looking for a mutually beneficial relationship I don't do PPM.

ME
I don't mind a MBR but it always starts out as a PPM. That way no one gets committed to anything too fast.

HER
Oh I see. But isn't that in other words prostitution.

ME
IDK. If you pay some one by the week or by the month or by the meet. You are still paying them right? So pay to play is pay to play. So how does the frequency of the payment change the outcome or expectation?

HER
LOL well when you put it that way.

HER
I'm interested in trying it out.

MidnightDabber
08-19-19, 15:52
Is the SA app down? I can't seem to find it on android.

HollywoodGuy
08-20-19, 22:39
Just turned 18. Just created her profile. Snagged her on the first day. She already deleted it by the second day. Doing the M&G Friday. We have it planned as an FC date as the vibe seems pretty good so far. Unless I am mistaken this would be an NP looking for her Daddy. They do exist. She has no clue I am moving. Sad. Because she really seems like a one in a million. I could always move her to vegas if she was my soul mate. Can a 65 year old have a 18 year old soulmate? I think its possible.

Signed my lease and paid my rent today for my apartment in vegas. And of course the SB's in LA are all over me the last two days without me even hitting them up. I have a few girls lined up in vegas and two that look really, really promising. I really can't see myself living there forever. A year or two at most. But I do know I can retire there much easier if I have to. I just can't believe that that is my fate though.

The crazy thing is it could end being a nice second home as the rent there is just insanely low.

HollywoodGuy
08-21-19, 19:21
Just turned 18. Just created her profile. Snagged her on the first day. She already deleted it by the second day. Doing the M&G Friday. We have it planned as an FC date as the vibe seems pretty good so far. Unless I am mistaken this would be an NP looking for her Daddy. They do exist. She has no clue I am moving. Sad. Because she really seems like a one in a million. I could always move her to vegas if she was my soul mate. Can a 65 year old have a 18 year old soulmate? I think its possible.

Signed my lease and paid my rent today for my apartment in vegas. And of course the SB's in LA are all over me the last two days without me even hitting them up. I have a few girls lined up in vegas and two that look really, really promising. I really can't see myself living there forever. A year or two at most. But I do know I can retire there much easier if I have to. I just can't believe that that is my fate though.

The crazy thing is it could end being a nice second home as the rent there is just insanely low.Can't catch a break. Tryin to get 18 and 19 year olds at $. You got to be persistent, and ready to jump at a moments notice. I lost this one, Got cold feet. She was an NP and will stay that way for now, till some other lucky guy talks fer down from her insecurities.

IrishGuy1977
08-21-19, 19:37
Hey fellas. Live in the Bay Area and travel for work. Travel will soon have me in LA area. I have had great success in Seattle using SA. It was almost too easy. LOL. The same approach has not netted many results in your area. I fully intend on reading many posts to get up to speed. But any advice you can share in the meantime would be helpful. PPM averages would be very helpful (preference does to erratic travel schedule). A lot of GPS it seems like. I also don't want to come and inadvertently set the market price that is too high. Same in the reverse. Are there specific nationalities that tend to show more GPS than others? My soft spot is for Asian and Latina. Does sexual willingness change by nationality? Thanks in advance.

BlueEyedMan58
08-21-19, 19:44
Can't catch a break. Tryin to get 18 and 19 year olds at $. You got to be persistent, and ready to jump at a moments notice. I lost this one, Got cold feet. She was an NP and will stay that way for now, till some other lucky guy talks fer down from her insecurities.Amazing that it can be done at all. Kudos to you, particularly given and I mean this only as a compliment, believe me you are evidently a nice sized multiple of their age. (I am your contemporary, I think, but have never come close to your meeting point with anyone college age and cute).

HollywoodGuy
08-21-19, 20:09
I may just keep hitting up my unicorn unless she blocks me. LOL. In the mean time set a casual date for tonite with this sexy spinner. She say 100% just to get a drink. But never believe that. Anything can and does happen.

HollywoodGuy
08-22-19, 00:47
Hey fellas. Live in the Bay Area and travel for work. Travel will soon have me in LA area. I have had great success in Seattle using SA. It was almost too easy. LOL. The same approach has not netted many results in your area. I fully intend on reading many posts to get up to speed. But any advice you can share in the meantime would be helpful. PPM averages would be very helpful (preference does to erratic travel schedule). A lot of GPS it seems like. I also don't want to come and inadvertently set the market price that is too high. Same in the reverse. Are there specific nationalities that tend to show more GPS than others? My soft spot is for Asian and Latina. Does sexual willingness change by nationality? Thanks in advance.No one person can set or change the market price of pussy anywhere in the world. In L. A. Think $$ for good and $$$ for excellent latina, asian maybe more. Especially if you are in a hurry. Good, fast and cheap. Pick any two out of three.

HollywoodGuy
08-26-19, 02:58
I may just keep hitting up my unicorn unless she blocks me. LOL. In the mean time set a casual date for tonite with this sexy spinner. She say 100% just to get a drink. But never believe that. Anything can and does happen.I did the M&G with this model thin girl. I was def not what she was looking for. Only 36 hours left in L.A.

MidnightDabber
08-26-19, 15:20
Any tips? They banned me a few times even with a prepaid card, it might have been something I said in a msg since they seem to be stricter now? Any anonymous credit cards or something that lets me dispute in case they suspend and don't refund?

Dbuys
08-26-19, 15:51
Any tips? They banned me a few times even with a prepaid card, it might have been something I said in a msg since they seem to be stricter now? Any anonymous credit cards or something that lets me dispute in case they suspend and don't refund?Do you have an android phone? If so, you can download the app and pay with google play gift card.

HollywoodGuy
08-26-19, 21:03
Amazing that it can be done at all. Kudos to you, particularly given and I mean this only as a compliment, believe me you are evidently a nice sized multiple of their age. (I am your contemporary, I think, but have never come close to your meeting point with anyone college age and cute).I would say in general, at least 25% or more of 18-20 year olds are down to date any age guy. Only a few years from seventy and I do not plan on lying about my age ever. Not yet anyway. And I have my filter set at 18-20.. sometimes I look over to like 21 or 22.. More than that.. too much trouble.

PussyPumper
08-27-19, 02:04
Any tips? They banned me a few times even with a prepaid card, it might have been something I said in a msg since they seem to be stricter now? Any anonymous credit cards or something that lets me dispute in case they suspend and don't refund?If you used a prepaid card then you already have paid anonymously!

BlueEyedMan58
08-28-19, 10:40
I would say in general, at least 25% or more of 18-20 year olds are down to date any age guy. Only a few years from seventy and I do not plan on lying about my age ever. Not yet anyway. And I have my filter set at 18-20.. sometimes I look over to like 21 or 22.. More than that.. too much trouble.It seems strange, maybe even paradoxical, but I'm getting the sense -- if I read you right -- that the chances of getting a cute 18-22 year old at a reasonable per meet rate are better than the chances of getting that same rate with a 25-35 year old woman, maybe even one not quite so attractive.

PussyPumper
08-28-19, 17:37
It seems strange, maybe even paradoxical, but I'm getting the sense -- if I read you right -- that the chances of getting a cute 18-22 year old at a reasonable per meet rate are better than the chances of getting that same rate with a 25-35 year old woman, maybe even one not quite so attractive.This is well know, and easily understood.

The older women (where "older" means mid 20's and up) have usually acquired larger needs and expenses than the younger 18-21 year olds. They have children, school loans, credit card debt, apartments to pay for, whatever.

DogBert77
08-28-19, 19:11
This is well know, and easily understood.

The older women (where "older" means mid 20's and up) have usually acquired larger needs and expenses than the younger 18-21 year olds. They have children, school loans, credit card debt, apartments to pay for, whatever.I agree the better values are with the younger girls. PussyPumper makes good points, but I think there are a couple of other dimensions to it as well. The really young girls have never had very much money of their own, so a little seems like a lot to them. Perhaps more importantly, they have not yet had the experience of a man spending lots of money on them. By the they are 30, ex's have taken them on vacations, bought them really expensive gifts, etc. , in order to get, or keep getting, into their pants. So their expectations have gone up up even if their "needs" haven't. Thus, ironically, most women's estimation of the value of their pussy goes up over time, even as the value most of us place on it is going down!

Of course, this is a happy coincidence for those of us who like them young. Adding to the serendipity, there is a huge supply from girls who are in college and have pretty urgent needs for cash. In my area, if I run a search with age filter set to 18-25, I get about five items as many hits as if I set it to 26-35. (I would never pay a 35 yo, I just run the search for research purposes!

PussyPumper
08-28-19, 19:43
I agree the better values are with the younger girls.....Very well put!

IrishGuy1977
08-28-19, 22:26
No one person can set or change the market price of pussy anywhere in the world. In L. A. Think $$ for good and $$$ for excellent latina, asian maybe more. Especially if you are in a hurry. Good, fast and cheap. Pick any two out of three.It is probably a little harder to do in LA. It Seattle being so small that if one guy comes in high and sets that expectation especially on a PPM basis it just seems it sets a trend. Whether real or perceived it happened. Thanks for the input.

HollywoodGuy
08-28-19, 23:30
It seems strange, maybe even paradoxical, but I'm getting the sense -- if I read you right -- that the chances of getting a cute 18-22 year old at a reasonable per meet rate are better than the chances of getting that same rate with a 25-35 year old woman, maybe even one not quite so attractive.I would says that is very true.

HollywoodGuy
08-28-19, 23:32
This is well know, and easily understood.

The older women (where "older" means mid 20's and up) have usually acquired larger needs and expenses than the younger 18-21 year olds. They have children, school loans, credit card debt, apartments to pay for, whatever.Not to mention the thrill of seeing a BSD is not the novelty it once was, so finances begin to take center stage.

HollywoodGuy
08-28-19, 23:34
It is probably a little harder to do in LA. It Seattle being so small that if one guy comes in high and sets that expectation especially on a PPM basis it just seems it sets a trend. Whether real or perceived it happened. Thanks for the input.I am in vegas now. There are way less girls. More of them go on tinder here. But if you have a good pitch eventually you will find reasonable girls that want more than just the dinero.

HollywoodGuy
08-29-19, 22:28
http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?10729-The-Sugar-World

Moved here.

FarFarAway
09-04-19, 18:30
We'll have to take over from the prolific poster HG to keep this thread alive. So, I recently M&G a 19 YO Latina, after a few days came down w / strep throat. Any other experiences getting standard communicable diseases from SBs?

Large Ess
09-05-19, 08:48
Been seeing two under 25 sweethearts for a couple months now. One is mind-blowing at BBBJ. She has the sweetest, softest lips I have encountered. The other has an awesome body, perky breasts and a nice round ass. She loves to fuck. She is also a squirter. We hadn't seen each other in a while and over the weekend we texted. She hadn't had any fun in a while and was horny. I said just come over for fun. She drove over, I did anything I wanted for a couple hours and then she kissed me goodnight. No support. If you give them a great time, after a while they sometimes find the experience more rewarding than the donation. I won't do this every time, but good to know she's at that place.

BigPersian
09-05-19, 20:28
Been seeing two under 25 sweethearts for a couple months now. One is mind-blowing at BBBJ. She has the sweetest, softest lips I have encountered. The other has an awesome body, perky breasts and a nice round ass. She loves to fuck. She is also a squirter. We hadn't seen each other in a while and over the weekend we texted. She hadn't had any fun in a while and was horny. I said just come over for fun. She drove over, I did anything I wanted for a couple hours and then she kissed me goodnight. No support. If you give them a great time, after a while they sometimes find the experience more rewarding than the donation. I won't do this every time, but good to know she's at that place.I had this happen to me too once, sweet 19 year old black girl who attended CSULA. Had to really fuck her twice to get it. Basically a guy had to reject her pretty hard (what he was on idk this girl was smoking hot), and I had to fuck her the first two times as very hard and as long and as good as possible. Really miss her. Moral of the story: step your game up in that department it does help.

Large Ess
09-07-19, 21:10
Anyone seen either of these:

https://www.seeking.com/member/e096efd2-fcaf-4e82-99b7-8b312dd473c9

https://www.seeking.com/member/6a272132-28de-4cb7-9b01-1c0058265f4c

OcasianBoy
09-08-19, 03:00
https://www.seeking.com/member/40a218c6-609f-4aae-8a2f-bbd122a2ca09

This girl wants at least 10 k a month to be spent on her.

Tipisil
09-08-19, 22:52
We'll have to take over from the prolific poster HG to keep this thread alive. So, I recently M&G a 19 YO Latina, after a few days came down w / strep throat. Any other experiences getting standard communicable diseases from SBs?That's a tall order. The man was 90 percent of the posts.

I've canceled my SA for a bit. Been stepping up my game on other apps. I'll try to post up more gems on how to score on whisper. But short of having others post what I post, it's quite the learning curve.

FarFarAway
09-09-19, 00:27
That's a tall order. The man was 90 percent of the posts.

I've canceled my SA for a bit. Been stepping up my game on other apps. I'll try to post up more gems on how to score on whisper. But short of having others post what I post, it's quite the learning curve.I still post on the Richmond sugar thread, I have a story about a two-fer day. Stuff that is specific to our local 'market' I'll put here. I would like to know more about apps, I tried whisper for a while and could not figure out how to get it to work.

Felix06
09-09-19, 22:56
https://www.seeking.com/member/40a218c6-609f-4aae-8a2f-bbd122a2ca09

This girl wants at least 10 k a month to be spent on her.Crazy, right? And yet still cheaper than getting married (well, at least a failed marriage). If she were available on your scheduled preference, was there to please you, and you could talk her down to 6-7 K per month (plus date and travel expenses, bringing you up to 8-10 K), it might be worth it (provided you have that kind of cash lying around), if you're into young blondes. But I can't believe she would hold anyone's interests for long; reading between the lines, I'm guessing her focus isn't providing a lot of enlightenment. Whereas I've met plenty of K-, J-, and Cgirls who'd be kickass to travel with--for better or worse, there'd be a good story to tell after spending time with them.

If blondes and young aren't a requirement, better to just have a steady pro who, if you were spending 3-4 K on a month, would probably let you enjoy some of her "free time" for free and would appreciate, not expect, you taking her out for the occasional nice dinner.

FarFarAway
09-10-19, 20:33
I posted earlier in the Richmond thread about a M&G w / this 27 YO. Had her in the FC today. She is a 'den mother' to exchange students so has an empty apartment when they are in school. Showed up and went to work. Big boobs, fine kisser, loves her neck kissed, gets off that way. She's submissive so I was in control. Did some more finger-banging, the only downside, wanted a cover for the BJ. Licked the boys, my whole crotch was wet. She's so deprived (over a year) she was highly grateful once I f*ed her. Lotsa compliments I am unsure if I believe. After round 1 mish, I got back in the mood and she rode me, hard. IDK what it was, her pudginess or anatomy, but I got a little sore so I stopped her after she cums. Never discussed any $ w / her, at the M&G I provided a modest gift card, for the FC, I doubled the amount, but still, what a bargain. Sub, hosts, and barely needs sugar. A well-known dude from the Richmond thread always said that he made a point to pay the girl so she didn't misunderstand the relationship. I think the same w / this one. Like Charlie Sheen used to say, he didn't pay the girls to f* him, he paid them to leave afterward.

RanManCan
09-11-19, 02:09
Crazy, right? And yet still cheaper than getting married (well, at least a failed marriage). If she were available on your scheduled preference, was there to please you, and you could talk her down to 6-7 K per month (plus date and travel expenses, bringing you up to 8-10 K), it might be worth it (provided you have that kind of cash lying around), if you're into young blondes. But I can't believe she would hold anyone's interests for long; reading between the lines, I'm guessing her focus isn't providing a lot of enlightenment. Whereas I've met plenty of K-, J-, and Cgirls who'd be kickass to travel with--for better or worse, there'd be a good story to tell after spending time with them.

If blondes and young aren't a requirement, better to just have a steady pro who, if you were spending 3-4 K on a month, would probably let you enjoy some of her "free time" for free and would appreciate, not expect, you taking her out for the occasional nice dinner.I have a better idea on what to do with $10 k / mo.

$500/ date once a week ($2 k / mo) with 5 different 18-21 yr old blonde hotties!

RanManCan
09-11-19, 20:40
https://www.seeking.com/member/40a218c6-609f-4aae-8a2f-bbd122a2ca09

This girl wants at least 10 k a month to be spent on her.I sent her my standard offer, just to see if I'll get a reply.

I doubt it, but she hasn't logged on since I sent it. . . Will update you.

OcasianBoy
09-13-19, 04:57
https://www.seeking.com/member/378b5759-6a1f-4cf2-9279-d81b7b008d17

This girl is a straight up prostitute with a pimp driving her. Be careful guys. That's all I'm going to say.

FrontPage
09-15-19, 08:45
How do you determine which girls you'll have the most success with? They all state they want a, Luxury lifestyle, mentorship, investor, vacations etc. A few are honest enough to say, the just want friends with benefits.

So my question is, is there some secret code that I'm missing. Alot of you guys talk about your profile being able to weed girls out, but what exactly are you saying there?

I know nothing is full proof but any help would be appreciated.

MidnightDabber
09-15-19, 22:52
What about cold calling girls on fb / twitter / ig? One of the top universities for sugar babies is Cal State Fullerton, just look for party type girls or single ones. I was watching that mtv show CATFISH the other day and people will strike up relationships with a. Jpeg and text. Some of these last almost a year. I bet someone can make some decent progress off of seeking girls from these unis and chatting them up and seeing if they are amendable? Be nice, friendly, fun and genuine? I almost got one off of tinder / ig. Since I'm off SA this is my world now.

HollywoodGuy
09-15-19, 23:59
How do you determine which girls you'll have the most success with? They all state they want a, Luxury lifestyle, mentorship, investor, vacations etc. A few are honest enough to say, the just want friends with benefits.

So my question is, is there some secret code that I'm missing. Alot of you guys talk about your profile being able to weed girls out, but what exactly are you saying there?

I know nothing is full proof but any help would be appreciated.What girls say they want what they actually need can be light years apart. Tell them what you can do for them, and if they say yes, then you are on, and if they say no, then ask another girl. Don't be afraid of rejection. In fact get lots of rejection. the more the better, because then you are that much closer to an acceptance of your offer.

Max #01
09-16-19, 12:33
Guys -- I'm curious if anyone has looked at the new Facebook Dating site and if anyone thinks it might be a new source of SBs and non-pros? I'm locked out of my hobby FB account so I haven't tried it yet.

Fmtalk
09-20-19, 10:11
Anyone seen either of these:

https://www.seeking.com/member/e096efd2-fcaf-4e82-99b7-8b312dd473c9

https://www.seeking.com/member/6a272132-28de-4cb7-9b01-1c0058265f4cI chatted with both of them when I was out there in June, both were very reponsive but I left town before meeting either. Let me know if you take the plunge.

LatinXTony
09-21-19, 17:30
Whats your average offer ranging from? I have to give HG props with his standard offer I can't even come near it to even get a response from. I'm getting hit with outrageous requests.

FarFarAway
09-22-19, 14:02
I have posted before about the 27 YO asian I met on the seeking.com site. What a find! I've had private time w / her twice so far, at her place. She's very sex-starved, w / a BF overseas. A short break was required by her monthly, and it is making her *ravenous*. Just got a text from her "I love getting fucked by you". Expect to spend some time w / her this week, I sometimes drop a gift card, but she doesn't really care about the $, she just wants the sex. This really helps me as I don't have to worry about my SO clamping down on the funds. She's a college graduate, nice enough, not psycho, a little pudgy, but overall she really works for me.

Large Ess
09-23-19, 09:05
I have posted before about the 27 YO asian I met on the seeking.com site. What a find! I've had private time w / her twice so far, at her place. She's very sex-starved, w / a BF overseas. A short break was required by her monthly, and it is making her *ravenous*. Just got a text from her "I love getting fucked by you". Expect to spend some time w / her this week, I sometimes drop a gift card, but she doesn't really care about the $, she just wants the sex. This really helps me as I don't have to worry about my SO clamping down on the funds. She's a college graduate, nice enough, not psycho, a little pudgy, but overall she really works for me.That is excellent. I have not yet been able to convince an Asian woman from seeking to even meet. I would love it. I do have a Latina who looks Philipino LOL and a young woman with a peach of an ass and perfectly round areoles so I can't really complain but we are always looking for more, right?

RanManCan
09-24-19, 22:24
With no Hollywood Guy around, this forum is a little slow, so thought I'd post.

Just finished my 2nd date w / perfect 19 yr old white college girl. Very pretty and perfectly thin and toned with hourglass figure and natural D+ ladies, I just don't think I could find a more perfect body.

She blows well past the point of satisfaction and doesn't stop the luvin until well after I'm done. All with, ahem *no rules* for the ending.

Bliss. . . Just not sure what more I could possibly ask for.

I'm a lucky SOB.

It makes me think about the $10 k / chic mentioned below. I just don't know what an SB could possibly do to command that much except maybe bring 4 new friends to each date. . .

Xnintoolx
09-27-19, 02:46
Would anyone w / an account to message. Ask this one girl on the site what she means by -.

"I actually have a bf now, so we have an offer you mayyy be interested in. Msg me?

LookslikeLE
09-27-19, 21:37
Supposed to meet this one after she gets off work tonite. Hope she makes it.So did it happen?

FunnBoi
09-28-19, 03:36
Sorry, which site?


Would anyone w / an account to message. Ask this one girl on the site what she means by -.

"I actually have a bf now, so we have an offer you mayyy be interested in. Msg me?

Mile22
10-01-19, 20:35
Anyone seen either of these:

https://www.seeking.com/member/e096efd2-fcaf-4e82-99b7-8b312dd473c9

https://www.seeking.com/member/6a272132-28de-4cb7-9b01-1c0058265f4cSeen this one: https://www.seeking.com/member/e096efd2-fcaf-4e82-99b7-8b312dd473c9.

She has a great body for her age (due to not having kids) and she's a really sweet woman. She asked for three hundred bones initially but I got her down to two hundred.

That being said, I wouldn't see her again.

When I got to her place she had a massage table out. Turns out she basically gives massages with happy endings. So she's a pro. She failed to mention that while we were conversing.

Anyway, the massage was actually pretty decent. But when it came time to bump uglies, everything was covered, she complained about my size being "way too much for her" & rushed me to finish.

Decadentme
10-02-19, 17:18
Sounds incredible.

Will be kind enough to share a link?

Thanks!


With no Hollywood Guy around, this forum is a little slow, so thought I'd post.

Just finished my 2nd date w / perfect 19 yr old white college girl. Very pretty and perfectly thin and toned with hourglass figure and natural D+ ladies, I just don't think I could find a more perfect body.

She blows well past the point of satisfaction and doesn't stop the luvin until well after I'm done. All with, ahem *no rules* for the ending.

Bliss. . . Just not sure what more I could possibly ask for.

I'm a lucky SOB.

It makes me think about the $10 k / chic mentioned below. I just don't know what an SB could possibly do to command that much except maybe bring 4 new friends to each date. . .

Large Ess
10-02-19, 23:26
I see this beauty a couple times a month. Sometimes without any support. She is super chill.

Large Ess
11-03-19, 15:36
Hey HG, give us some news. LOL This site has been dead. I added the last post below.

Xxmishmaxx
11-04-19, 20:45
Hi there guys!

Just curios do you guys use gift cards that allows oversea purchase or your own personal credit cards? Is it easy to cancel or difficult using your personal credit cards? I'm asking this because the payment method says auto renew every month and I'm only thinking about using this for a month or two at most. I read some posts saying have only a certain amount that will cover the months you want to use and then let it run out and it will cancel automatically?

Thanks in advance guys!

BTW, is HG coming back? I miss his posts.

ChiGuy18
11-09-19, 13:36
Has anybody seen this one? Exactly what I'm looking for but want some intel.

https://www.seeking.com/member/02897a05-ebe4-4295-a382-358f3e335331

DCowboy77
11-09-19, 16:06
Hi there guys!

Just curios do you guys use gift cards that allows oversea purchase or your own personal credit cards? Is it easy to cancel or difficult using your personal credit cards? I'm asking this because the payment method says auto renew every month and I'm only thinking about using this for a month or two at most. I read some posts saying have only a certain amount that will cover the months you want to use and then let it run out and it will cancel automatically?

Thanks in advance guys!

BTW, is HG coming back? I miss his posts.You can do either. I had paid with my personal credit card because I'm single and don't really have anything to hide. SA banned my old profile about six months ago. I created a new one and have been using gift cards. If you use your credit card and don't want it to renew, you just have to cancel or change the renewal settings before the month is up. No big deal.

Xxmishmaxx
11-10-19, 01:51
You can do either. I had paid with my personal credit card because I'm single and don't really have anything to hide. SA banned my old profile about six months ago. I created a new one and have been using gift cards. If you use your credit card and don't want it to renew, you just have to cancel or change the renewal settings before the month is up. No big deal.Awesome thank you very much! I'll be signing up soon!

CandyMan555
11-11-19, 00:25
How do you determine which girls you'll have the most success with? They all state they want a, Luxury lifestyle, mentorship, investor, vacations etc. A few are honest enough to say, the just want friends with benefits.

So my question is, is there some secret code that I'm missing. Alot of you guys talk about your profile being able to weed girls out, but what exactly are you saying there?

I know nothing is full proof but any help would be appreciated.Check the.

Richmond site under Sugarbabies for some excellent tips Happy Hunting CM.

CandyMan555
11-11-19, 11:19
I am visiting Torrance area from the East Coast next week and would appreciate info on GFE Sugarsbabies ' I was banned from SA for no apparent reason (I know the rules (don't mention ppm, money etc, take it offline) I am using Sugardaddy Meet and Secret Benefits instead but have not had much success. I don't have a lot of time to meet and greet so if you could recommend someone I would appreciate it greatly. BBBJ and BBFS would be even better.

Thank you for your help PM is fine.

CM.

SirSmitty
11-16-19, 09:56
https://privatedelights.ch/USA/California/Burbank/Linda213

This looks to good to be true. Am I right?

SirSmitty
11-16-19, 19:23
Wowsers. THIS WEEKEND.

KALINA.

https://www.eros.com/california/los_angeles/files/8371382.htm

Theres a fantasy.

DickensCider
11-27-19, 01:29
https://www.seeking.com/member/0cbaa4bc-1039-4f04-bb41-ffa6390ae2fb

As someone here once mentioned before. The more the girl writes the crazier the demands. This chick is nowhere hot enough to come off like this. I'd be interested if anyone has contacted for shots and giggles.

DogTown997
12-02-19, 10:48
Log on issues I seem to remember seeing a pop up over the weekend about how they're not support the adult sites on some of the browsers anymore, and all of a sudden yesterday I can't see any pictures on my mobile I can get it on my desktop, anyone else having this issue & know I work around to use the mobile to get the site, Hoping this doesn't go the way TER went.

GoodBoy88
12-02-19, 16:36
https://www.seeking.com/member/0cbaa4bc-1039-4f04-bb41-ffa6390ae2fb

As someone here once mentioned before. The more the girl writes the crazier the demands. This chick is nowhere hot enough to come off like this. I'd be interested if anyone has contacted for shots and giggles.That's because it's not a real girl, that's just a scammer who's just going to try to get money upfront sight unseen. Look at the key words and phases, "must show commitment UPFRONT" "not interested in meets or other kinds of face to face communication", so in other words "please send a wad of cash to 123 Porky Ln, to prove YOUR not a scammer!" LOL eventually a fool and his money will be parted.

AerialPenguin
12-02-19, 17:15
Omaha and NYC, both blonde (Fit) and mid 20's in age. The Omaha girl is a seasoned sugar baby but will not ask for a ridiculous amount. The NYC girl, is super cute but is a bit more expensive. Please travel in these two cities so you're not wasting their time. In return, looking for a sugar baby here in SoCal or Denver / Seattle areas.

I got their OK to share their number plus pics for serious members only.

OcasianBoy
12-03-19, 10:53
https://www.seeking.com/member/83f9f4d6-273c-4107-afbf-775ba7bb10be

This Brazilian looks pretty hot. Has anyone seen her?

DogTown997
12-03-19, 23:05
https://www.seeking.com/member/83f9f4d6-273c-4107-afbf-775ba7bb10be

This Brazilian looks pretty hot. Has anyone seen her?Pretty sure this is the same girl 200 & straight to the bedroom & cut to the chase these guys are legit too.

https://www.humaniplex.com/profiles/Bellas_of_Brazil

Large Ess
12-05-19, 04:14
https://www.seeking.com/member/e260c59e-9208-40a3-a163-b121958423ae

She is quoting more than three times what I am willing to part with but I find her incredible attractive. Wondering if anyone has spent quality time with her.

FirstClass1
12-09-19, 14:02
These sites can often mean slogging through fake profiles, time wasters, flakes, and delusional GPS girls. But keep at it and you'll have some amazing experiences.

Within 24 hours of renewing my membership I set up a date with a gorgeous pale skin 18 year old with blue eyes and rocking body. We vibed well and within hours she whispers in my ear: "You can eat me out if you want. " Happy to oblige, I pick her up and carry her into the FC. Such a sweet, tight, bright pink pussy 😈 squirmed with delight as I gave her a tongue lashing. I asked her if she wanted me inside her, and she said yes. I slip inside her delicate flower and she whispers "cum in this pussy, daddy. Fill me up. " God damn. I nailed her harder until I pumped load after load in her receptive womb.

Sometimes you just get lucky.

Large Ess
12-09-19, 16:20
These sites can often mean slogging through fake profiles, time wasters, flakes, and delusional GPS girls. But keep at it and you'll have some amazing experiences.

Within 24 hours of renewing my membership I set up a date with a gorgeous pale skin 18 year old with blue eyes and rocking body. We vibed well and within hours she whispers in my ear: "You can eat me out if you want. " Happy to oblige, I pick her up and carry her into the FC. Such a sweet, tight, bright pink pussy 😈 squirmed with delight as I gave her a tongue lashing. I asked her if she wanted me inside her, and she said yes. I slip inside her delicate flower and she whispers "cum in this pussy, daddy. Fill me up. " God damn. I nailed her harder until I pumped load after load in her receptive womb.

Sometimes you just get lucky.Well done.

Large Ess
12-09-19, 16:24
With the holidays SA is exploding with so many new women. I had a goal to be with ethnicities that I have yet to experience but then some sexy Latina shows up and I am done for. I have about 20 POT's and an additional 10 that have agreed to the terms. Late nights on the site can be interesting. Last Saturday at 2 AM I had a cute USC student who really needed her p*why attended to, she jumped in her uber and came over. A virgin and wanted mentoring with sucking c* wanted nothing. I told her I didn't want anything more than oral and that seemed to seal the deal. I gave her uber money. Later that day I met a curvaceous AF with beautiful eyes and lips. We had a great lunch and spent the rest of the afternoon together. She didn't want me to pay for her uber. Flip to a response today, which I have to quote because I find it amusing how pissed off this one got. I did my regulars terms. Her response " You could have at least started with 400 or 500. You sound stupid. The type of sugar daddy that I am seeking are the ones who are generous upfront and may get something later but not with (my arrangement) I get paid just to go have dinner. Your (sic) asking way too much and this conversation is over. Have a good rest of your life. " So she's saying some guys are paying her 500 to have dinner with her when I had two incredible experiences in less than 24 hours for less than a regular civie date. Who sounds stupid, gentlemen? ☺.

JustInCase12
12-09-19, 20:25
https://www.seeking.com/member/83f9f4d6-273c-4107-afbf-775ba7bb10beThis Brazilian looks pretty hot. Has anyone seen her?I'm also curious if anyone has seen her, she looks like a good time. Love to hear some feedback.

AerialPenguin
12-09-19, 23:33
These sites can often mean slogging through fake profiles, time wasters, flakes, and delusional GPS girls. But keep at it and you'll have some amazing experiences.

Within 24 hours of renewing my membership I set up a date with a gorgeous pale skin 18 year old with blue eyes and rocking body. We vibed well and within hours she whispers in my ear: "You can eat me out if you want. " Happy to oblige, I pick her up and carry her into the FC. Such a sweet, tight, bright pink pussy 😈 squirmed with delight as I gave her a tongue lashing. I asked her if she wanted me inside her, and she said yes. I slip inside her delicate flower and she whispers "cum in this pussy, daddy. Fill me up. " God damn. I nailed her harder until I pumped load after load in her receptive womb.

Sometimes you just get lucky.I agree, you have to be persistent and above all, be respectful. These girls hate aggressiveness, I hear it all the time from SB, they don't like aggressive behavior. Here's a pic of an 18 year old SB I had last year. Middle class white girl who with no tats and attending a Pac 12 university. She was great in bed and her pussy smelled like flowers!

RandysDonut
12-10-19, 12:30
These sites can often mean slogging through fake profiles, time wasters, flakes, and delusional GPS girls. But keep at it and you'll have some amazing experiences.

Within 24 hours of renewing my membership I set up a date with a gorgeous pale skin 18 year old with blue eyes and rocking body. We vibed well and within hours she whispers in my ear: "You can eat me out if you want. " Happy to oblige, I pick her up and carry her into the FC. Such a sweet, tight, bright pink pussy 😈 squirmed with delight as I gave her a tongue lashing. I asked her if she wanted me inside her, and she said yes. I slip inside her delicate flower and she whispers "cum in this pussy, daddy. Fill me up. " God damn. I nailed her harder until I pumped load after load in her receptive womb.

Sometimes you just get lucky.I totally agree with this sentiment. I have found a few girls and even made repeat arrangements with them but yeah it sucks wading through all the BS, flakes, and fuglies. I don't know what you guys typically do but I test the waters with a coffee date and offer 50 to meet up just for a coffee and gauge interest from both sides. Has worked well for me so far. Have a couple cuties out in Palm Springs for whenever I visit. And I have a few here in LA who I hit up once a month. Way hotter, younger, and fun in bed than most of the chicks you get in an escort arrangement.

Member #6037
12-10-19, 17:17
These sites can often mean slogging through fake profiles, time wasters, flakes, and delusional GPS girls. But keep at it and you'll have some amazing experiences.

Within 24 hours of renewing my membership I set up a date with a gorgeous pale skin 18 year old with blue eyes and rocking body. We vibed well and within hours she whispers in my ear: "You can eat me out if you want. " Happy to oblige, I pick her up and carry her into the FC. Such a sweet, tight, bright pink pussy 😈 squirmed with delight as I gave her a tongue lashing. I asked her if she wanted me inside her, and she said yes. I slip inside her delicate flower and she whispers "cum in this pussy, daddy. Fill me up. " God damn. I nailed her harder until I pumped load after load in her receptive womb.

Sometimes you just get lucky.Great work!

I've always shied away from cumming inside bareback unless I know they are on birth control because of the risk of getting a them pregnant. I understand that they don't want to have your offspring and they have other plans than using you to get child support. They have other aspirations, especially the college sb's. Even though neither of us may want it to happen there is still that possibility of an unintended pregnancy. How do you deal with this risk? It seems awkward to ask them to take the morning after pill.

HollywoodGuy
12-12-19, 16:38
With the holidays SA is exploding with so many new women. I had a goal to be with ethnicities that I have yet to experience but then some sexy Latina shows up and I am done for. I have about 20 POT's and an additional 10 that have agreed to the terms. Late nights on the site can be interesting. Last Saturday at 2 AM I had a cute USC student who really needed her p*why attended to, she jumped in her uber and came over. A virgin and wanted mentoring with sucking c* wanted nothing. I told her I didn't want anything more than oral and that seemed to seal the deal. I gave her uber money. Later that day I met a curvaceous AF with beautiful eyes and lips. We had a great lunch and spent the rest of the afternoon together. She didn't want me to pay for her uber. Flip to a response today, which I have to quote because I find it amusing how pissed off this one got. I did my regulars terms. Her response " You could have at least started with 400 or 500. You sound stupid. The type of sugar daddy that I am seeking are the ones who are generous upfront and may get something later but not with (my arrangement) I get paid just to go have dinner. Your (sic) asking way too much and this conversation is over. Have a good rest of your life. " So she's saying some guys are paying her 500 to have dinner with her when I had two incredible experiences in less than 24 hours for less than a regular civie date. Who sounds stupid, gentlemen? ☺.Great post. Over the long haul seeking (SA) will provide every experience imaginable.

Still living in vegas. Applied for a job at reflex marketing (LOL). They never got back to me.

Geneva Guy
12-12-19, 16:50
Great work!

I've always shied away from cumming inside bareback unless I know they are on birth control because of the risk of getting a them pregnant. I understand that they don't want to have your offspring and they have other plans than using you to get child support. They have other aspirations, especially the college sb's. Even though neither of us may want it to happen there is still that possibility of an unintended pregnancy. How do you deal with this risk? It seems awkward to ask them to take the morning after pill.I always ask both, are you using contraception and what do you use and if not, will you take the morning after pill. My current 25 year old brown SB isn't on contraception and says that the morning after pill makes her sick. So. What's the alternative? I fuck her ass, she claims she never tried this before. So for a girl that won't kiss or suck. Her ass is nice and tight (about 90 lbs of girl). So for now, I'm ok with that. Just blow my load deep in her bowels instead.

GG.

OcasianBoy
12-12-19, 17:41
https://www.seeking.com/member/b6f3f1db-e6e1-42ac-8d3e-1261344f8883

This girl is seems like all business. Has anyone met her?

Large Ess
12-12-19, 19:12
Great post. Over the long haul seeking (SA) will provide every experience imaginable.

Still living in vegas. Applied for a job at reflex marketing (LOL). They never got back to me.So far I haven't heard back from the USC virgin. Hopefully it's because of finals, she had a great ass and legs for days. She is going out of town for the holidays.

FirstClass1
12-12-19, 20:44
I always ask both, are you using contraception and what do you use and if not, will you take the morning after pill. My current 25 year old brown SB isn't on contraception and says that the morning after pill makes her sick. So. What's the alternative? I fuck her ass, she claims she never tried this before. So for a girl that won't kiss or suck. Her ass is nice and tight (about 90 lbs of girl). So for now, I'm ok with that. Just blow my load deep in her bowels instead.

GG.Precisely, you bring up the topic when it's opportune to do so. In this case Plan B took care of the matter.

Member #6037
12-16-19, 00:31
I always ask both, are you using contraception and what do you use and if not, will you take the morning after pill. My current 25 year old brown SB isn't on contraception and says that the morning after pill makes her sick. So. What's the alternative? I fuck her ass, she claims she never tried this before. So for a girl that won't kiss or suck. Her ass is nice and tight (about 90 lbs of girl). So for now, I'm ok with that. Just blow my load deep in her bowels instead.

GG.Thank you for the advice. That seems like the best way to go about things.

Member #6037
12-16-19, 00:40
Precisely, you bring up the topic when it's opportune to do so. In this case Plan B took care of the matter.I will do so going forward, thank you. It's nice to see that it's not uncommon in the sugar world.

Large Ess
12-16-19, 18:41
I know off topic but I figure someone will be able to help. My mailbox is getting full and I can't see a way to delete messages. Any help would be appreciated.

Phone
12-16-19, 23:23
To those of you who are married, how do you spend money on SB and not getting caught? Do you guys constantly withdraw a lot of cash?

BobbieTheBuild
12-18-19, 03:10
I just created an account with seeking arrangements. Before I take the plunge and pay for subscription, what is the going rate and how do the conversations go down?

RandysDonut
12-18-19, 16:23
To those of you who are married, how do you spend money on SB and not getting caught? Do you guys constantly withdraw a lot of cash?Am not married but I suggest you don't combine expenses when married, it can very much be a divorce sentence for many. If you are already doing it find a way out. Money is an important topic to discuss, google good reasons not to and use those in discussion.

Next, have a separate bank account. Have your salary direct deposited between two accounts. Play money account and your regular day to day money. Helps to keep you limited on spending too.

Ocean333
12-19-19, 15:30
Am not married but I suggest you don't combine expenses when married, it can very much be a divorce sentence for many. If you are already doing it find a way out. Money is an important topic to discuss, google good reasons not to and use those in discussion.

Next, have a separate bank account. Have your salary direct deposited between two accounts. Play money account and your regular day to day money. Helps to keep you limited on spending too.Separate account is good but I prefer to keep cash. If wife runs a credit report, the account will show up (I do have an etrade account with banking service. It shows up but she knows I have it already. Keep cash. Hidden drawers, asking a close buddy who is single to keep cash you supposedly lost at a casino, some more ways that are in a grey area, so I will not mention.

MrlbFun
12-21-19, 04:44
I just created an account with seeking arrangements. Before I take the plunge and pay for subscription, what is the going rate and how do the conversations go down?In my experience it depends on how curious you are about the profile. For example my mind tends to devalue hustler type girls who are more "Professional" or they work at a strip club. Those girls are easy to grab up for a few hundred bucks on any site.

So I always start with something basic then second message is something like this.

"Hey I don't want to waste your time if you're just trying to make some quick sugar if that's what you're doing cool but if you're more interested in getting to know each other more we can do that of course I just don't want to bore you with small talk if you just want some quick cash".

They put themself in a bucket for you.

Option 1 they just want money asap so you know she's ready whenever you are to hangout. I start low because I know they are going to start high. I'll literally start at $ I don't always get that number but I explain "listen I don't even know what I'm getting until we hangout regardless of what you say".

Option 2 they might be super unsure of what they are doing on the site but they know they want to hangout it with more mature dudes. So they don't want to just have sex immediately so here I usually start at 0 and I make it clear if I enjoy myself I'll want to hangout in the future. In my experience, if they were just a 6 performer and you don't want to text them anymore sometimes they will reach out just to hangout more just because they were rejected. But I've also had situations where the chick was so perfect for what I was looking for and because I was over anxious for the 2nd time they have gotten 350+ out of me the 2nd time and unfortunately I just set the market moving forward accidentally.

So my first offer, no matter the profile, has never been above $$ no matter if she is sending me videos of her playing with herself promising what she'll do to me. I don't go over that on an initial offering LOL.

HollywoodGuy
12-25-19, 11:50
Merry Xmas

Large Ess
12-27-19, 14:26
At the moment, I have four regulars, three that have agreed to terms and about four more that are interested. The USC student texted me back so I think she could still be in the loop when she returns. Of the four one is free, three are at 1 and one is 250 but flexible.

HollywoodGuy
12-27-19, 19:38
At the moment, I have four regulars, three that have agreed to terms and about four more that are interested. The USC student texted me back so I think she could still be in the loop when she returns. Of the four one is free, three are at 1 and one is 250 but flexible.I am so out of the loop. If I get laid once a week lately its a blessing. I had a date yesterday with my #1 girl that I met since I got here. And then she started her period that morning. So that was a no show. My ATF is supposed to be back in Vegas tomorrow? Who knows how long she will stay anyway. Plus I am a bit tired of her. I love her but after 18 months the honeymoon is way over. Been reaching out to a few girls this week. First time in about 2 months. So many cute girls in vegas, and at better or the same prices as L.A. And with definitely better attitudes. A lot of girls here are only paying like 4 bills a month rent. Sharing a 2 br with a friend. Or something similar. The lower COL here is def a bonus. My current rent all in is 1/3 of what I was paying in Hollywood.

KeithJosh
12-29-19, 11:05
Any of you had good experiences with SA in san jose area?

Nmng4
12-29-19, 19:41
At the moment, I have four regulars, three that have agreed to terms and about four more that are interested. The USC student texted me back so I think she could still be in the loop when she returns. Of the four one is free, three are at 1 and one is 250 but flexible.How are you pulling off regulars at 1 and 250? Most I've come across are looking for a lot more than that.

Boobman76
12-29-19, 22:29
Any one meet this girl yet? We've traded a few messages and she's tying to tell me she hasn't slept with anyone in 2 years. I just don't buy it.

https://www.seeking.com/member/95741a68-d5c6-41b3-a9ab-f53dee19a282

DickensCider
12-30-19, 14:41
Any one meet this girl yet? We've traded a few messages and she's tying to tell me she hasn't slept with anyone in 2 years. I just don't buy it.

https://www.seeking.com/member/95741a68-d5c6-41b3-a9ab-f53dee19a282I haven't met her but I'm with you, she's been on the board for three years and no one has gotten in her? Humm, sounds like she's feeding you a crock.

Large Ess
12-31-19, 02:47
How are you pulling off regulars at 1 and 250? Most I've come across are looking for a lot more than that.I basically follow Hollywood's advice. Blonde hair and blue eyes aren't my thing so I don't go after them. I'm am upfront and get turned down a lot but still manage to have a lot of fun.

MidnightDabber
01-01-20, 21:25
So if I am looking to fulfill a certain fantasy involving mfm what is the best way to approach these girls? Some of the other advice I've heard has been invaluable. Teach me professors!

McNutties
01-03-20, 19:25
Hi all.

I have been in the mongering game for a few years now but looking to expand my options. Couple questions about SA.

-In your experience are most of the profiles real? I mean in the LA area its like 2 out of 3 look good to me (aspiring actresses or models).

-How do you approach the girls? Are you straight up like hey I'm looking for this (ie good conversation, bang bang, wine and dine date, travel).

-Whats an average amount they are expecting? Are most wanting a steady allowance or some good with donations at the time of meeting up?

Sorry for all of the questions. Just trying to get some idea before getting on there and sounding like a dummy. I am used to the make an appointment, do the deed, donation, and good home deal with kgirls.

Ed 210
01-05-20, 03:53
I know off topic but I figure someone will be able to help. My mailbox is getting full and I can't see a way to delete messages. Any help would be appreciated.Are you on the desktop version? There is a little x on the right side of every conversation, click that. Or click into the convo and then click the gear, which lets you delete too.

Ed 210
01-05-20, 04:08
Hi all.

I have been in the mongering game for a few years now but looking to expand my options. Couple questions about SA.

-In your experience are most of the profiles real? I mean in the LA area its like 2 out of 3 look good to me (aspiring actresses or models).

-How do you approach the girls? Are you straight up like hey I'm looking for this (ie good conversation, bang bang, wine and dine date, travel).

-Whats an average amount they are expecting? Are most wanting a steady allowance or some good with donations at the time of meeting up?

Sorry for all of the questions. Just trying to get some idea before getting on there and sounding like a dummy. I am used to the make an appointment, do the deed, donation, and good home deal with kgirls.Others here may have had more success with some of the more beautiful SB's on the site, but other than paying for dinners, occasional ubers, a tank of gas here and there, and once a collection of textbooks, I haven't paid anything. Note that I joined SA a few years ago to work on my game, to connect and spend time with younger women, and of course get laid. I am pretty up front about not wanting to pay per meeting, which turns away most of the 7's and above, but I've definitely been able to meet plenty of 5's and 6's, and the occasional 7/8. They are all real people whose pictures match. I definitely have run across a number of girls who ask anywhere from $300-$500 for FS. Even after making out in my backseat, with her wetness on my fingers, I usually turn them away. Its funny, I have no problem handing over money to AMPs and Kgirls, but it has been a matter of pride and a bit of a challenge to myself to use charm instead.

There was this one 19 year old girl that I met a few years back, we saw each other on and off for two years. Enormous natural breasts, always horny, BB everything, and so incredibly eager to please. She could take it hard too. She never asked for money or food or anything, other than the text books that one time. She unfortunately got a conviction for transporting marijuana across state lines. Really a shame, she was trying to go to school and get her life together and I was watching out for her, a safety net of sorts, she would have made it. Not sure whatever happened to her, but I hope she's well.

Anyways, I like Hollywood's self cataloging approach, I may try that and start paying up front for the hot ones. .

MidnightDabber
01-05-20, 17:50
Is it just me or is it difficult to set something up with azns on SA? I have had a few sucesses but most don't respond / conversation peters out, any tips?

HollywoodGuy
01-07-20, 02:51
Looks like I am going to be in L. A. for the next few months for work. And if it works out, then for good. I will be staying in DTLA with a guy roommate to start, so there won't be any action there till he leaves. Not sure when that will be. We are both working for the same company and staying in the same company apartment. He is supposed be getting transferred to N.Y., but until he does I will be getting a notel when I need to. But once he is gone I will have the place 80% to myself except when there is a business visitor. Hopefully thats rare.

I got to say vegas really was a lot more chill as far as the number of girls and their attitudes. It was still a numbers game but no shortage of pussy. Just a shortage of money, because test driving a new girl or two a week there is a no brainer. Lots of young pussy and at fair market rates. I got a few girls lined up already in L.A.. But no problem to build a pipeline if I have to. My ATF went back to L. A. today. She can't stay with me so she will be staying where ever. All this bouncing around is a bit tedious but I have no real choice. So starting next week I will be posting here and not there.

But I am keeping my apartment in Vegas just in case. Its so cheap, there is no real reason to give it up quite yet. And if this new job doesn't work out I will just go back. I'll know soon enough as I have a quota I have to make in 90 days or I am out. What ever happens my ATF says she will just follow me no matter what. IDK if that's a good thing or a bad thing, but being lonely sucks and I still dont have the money to just sugar away, the way I would need to, to replace her. So hi guys, I am back.

HollywoodGuy
01-07-20, 03:10
Is it just me or is it difficult to set something up with azns on SA? I have had a few sucesses but most don't respond / conversation peters out, any tips?Offer more sugar?

HollywoodGuy
01-08-20, 19:14
Moving back this weekend, but I think I am going to move in with my x GF for the first month. If I want to sugar it will have to be at the no-tel. I doubt I will have much to post as I will really have no time to sugar between my job, x GF and ATF.

Iwtc2014
01-09-20, 15:42
Is it just me or is it difficult to set something up with azns on SA? I have had a few sucesses but most don't respond / conversation peters out, any tips?I've had a similar experience. Maybe there is a FOMO syndrome on their side that they could always be getting something more / better instead of taking what is in front of them.

LukeUp25
01-09-20, 21:54
Could someone please point me to anything else but SA? I've been on there a few days now and it's been exhausting. I might be doing something wrong but I'm "lurking and learning" here.

HollywoodGuy
01-10-20, 11:13
Could someone please point me to anything else but SA? I've been on there a few days now and it's been exhausting. I might be doing something wrong but I'm "lurking and learning" here.In todays world its basically SA or something even more difficult.

https://www.sugardaddyforme.com/?page=login

Does anyone even still use this site?

HollywoodGuy
01-10-20, 12:12
I have my first M&G set up for when I get back. A super pretty and young looking AA girl from the west side. Says she has not met anyone off the site yet. Profile says she is 21 but she looks 18 and fresh. I do not see how I will have much time to sugar. I think / know being with the PYT's definitely keeps the spring in my step. But highly recommended at any age. My Dr says its medically proven to help keep your overall health up.

I used to think low T was an issue but I have not been on any supplements for years. I may ask my doc about it again. Serovital also looks promising.

Geneva Guy
01-10-20, 13:50
I have my first M&G set up for when I get back. A super pretty and young looking AA girl from the west side. Says she has not met anyone off the site yet. Profile says she is 21 but she looks 18 and fresh. I do not see how I will have much time to sugar. I think / know being with the PYT's definitely keeps the spring in my step. But highly recommended at any age. My Dr says its medically proven to help keep your overall health up.

I used to think low T was an issue but I have not been on any supplements for years. I may ask my doc about it again. Serovital also looks promising.HG:

Don't waste your money on those supplements. When you look at the data in a small number of men, the effect is all over the board and there was no testing done to see if the changes in testosterone concentrations actually made a difference. The sample was too small. Same with nugenix (you know the supplement that Frank Thomas promotes). Interesting that Frank Thomas advocated drug testing when he was a baseball player and now he is hawking testosterone supplements?

This is my area of expertise (medical). If you have low T, then you can use one of many testosterone products, keeping in mind that once you start, you may never be able to stop and you increase the risk of certain diseases such as heart disease using them (a small but real increase).

The placebo effect can be strong. But really, don't waste your money on these bogus supplements. Same for supplements that claim to have the same effects as Viagra, Cialis, some of these supplements are contaminated with these types of drugs, other supplements are bogus. Remember. In the medical field. If these things worked. We ALL would be recommending them. For me, the best stimulant is small Asian girls, although brown girls are close behind.

I'm sure some guys on here will give anecdotal stories of how supplements changed their lives. But anecdotes are not science.

GG.

TheHuntsman
01-11-20, 00:24
When I have a chance I'll have to share the full story, but last night I received a lot of angry messages and threats on Snapchat from a girls current bf. This girl had basically ripped me off about a year ago and I still had her on my SC. I never seemed revenge. Yesterday I was bored and sent a message trying to be funny. Which led to her bf sending me all these threatening messages. It was pretty wild as I'm over the stealing of the money, but he wouldn't let it go. Just keep messaging me over and over. Probably my fault for engaging him by replying to each message telling him to relax and let it go.

HollywoodGuy
01-11-20, 20:55
HG:

Don't waste your money on those supplements. When you look at the data in a small number of men, the effect is all over the board and there was no testing done to see if the changes in testosterone concentrations actually made a difference. The sample was too small. Same with nugenix (you know the supplement that Frank Thomas promotes). Interesting that Frank Thomas advocated drug testing when he was a baseball player and now he is hawking testosterone supplements?

This is my area of expertise (medical). If you have low T, then you can use one of many testosterone products, keeping in mind that once you start, you may never be able to stop and you increase the risk of certain diseases such as heart disease using them (a small but real increase).

The placebo effect can be strong. But really, don't waste your money on these bogus supplements. Same for supplements that claim to have the same effects as Viagra, Cialis, some of these supplements are contaminated with these types of drugs, other supplements are bogus. Remember. In the medical field. If these things worked. We ALL would be recommending them. For me, the best stimulant is small Asian girls, although brown girls are close behind.

I'm sure some guys on here will give anecdotal stories of how supplements changed their lives. But anecdotes are not science.

GG.When I was on HgH and testosterone cream in the past I felt like it did help. I only stopped because I got priced out of the HgH. And the test cream was increasing my PSA which my GP did not like. I know that all the nutra supplements are bull as I worked in that industry for many years. The serovital is the only supplement I have seen that actually has some science behind it. And thanks for your input.

Pickle01
01-12-20, 15:50
I should have know better, but I'm generally a trusting guy. Went on a dinner date with this one and had a nice time. Drove her back to her apartment where she asked for the allowance in the car, which I gave to her. She went inside while I parked and then she ghosted me. There's a lot more to the story, but bottom line is never ever give an allowance prematurely!

https://www.seeking.com/member/a556f830-a6b0-45b5-b3d7-2cc520a2a118

Newbie1961
01-12-20, 16:24
Sorry for your loss. It happens to the experienced also when they let their guard down. This board is loaded with post after post (in all cities if you read them) of guys getting scammed with a prepay of one form of another. I figure its more than triple what I read on here because guys down want to post on how they got fooled and taken. I treat it this way and never deviate from this philosophy. When I dine at a restaurant, I never pay the bill until after I have finished the meal.


I should have know better, but I'm generally a trusting guy. Went on a dinner date with this one and had a nice time. Drove her back to her apartment where she asked for the allowance in the car, which I gave to her. She went inside while I parked and then she ghosted me. There's a lot more to the story, but bottom line is never ever give an allowance prematurely!

https://www.seeking.com/member/a556f830-a6b0-45b5-b3d7-2cc520a2a118

TheHuntsman
01-12-20, 17:49
I should have know better, but I'm generally a trusting guy. Went on a dinner date with this one and had a nice time. Drove her back to her apartment where she asked for the allowance in the car, which I gave to her. She went inside while I parked and then she ghosted me. There's a lot more to the story, but bottom line is never ever give an allowance prematurely!

https://www.seeking.com/member/a556f830-a6b0-45b5-b3d7-2cc520a2a118Welcome to the club. Everyone gets got. Like my post below I guy got. It's unfortunate when it happens to something you've seen multiple times and believe there is some sort of trust.

Rocketron1006
01-13-20, 02:41
Moving back this weekend, but I think I am going to move in with my x GF for the first month. If I want to sugar it will have to be at the no-tel. I doubt I will have much to post as I will really have no time to sugar between my job, x GF and ATF.Maybe we'll all stage a fundraising concert for you--you posts made great reading. Welcome back to LA.

Phone
01-13-20, 15:47
How do you guys filter out the pros? I tried in New York but got frustrated being bombarded by pros. LA looks like a lot of pros too.

TheHuntsman
01-13-20, 23:45
How do you guys filter out the pros? I tried in New York but got frustrated being bombarded by pros. LA looks like a lot of pros too.I'm not trying to see someone that's a full blown pro. I look at the lids. If they look like a BP girl or SW then pass. Are all their pics of them in front of a motel mirror? Pro. Pass. Do they discuss the like roses instead of money? Pro. Pass. Are they really eager to meet and fuck you after 1 message? Pro. Pass. Do they say everything is covered? Pro. Pass.

DavidTheSancho
01-14-20, 16:23
Anyone have a really slow time the past two months? I noticed a lot of newish profiles with girls with only one photo, girls that barely reply to messages, and countless who want a little something that proves we are serious before they even meet up. It's going nowhere and the girls who I do manage to get so far as to text end up barely replying. It's not like I'm even low balling them at all. Idk maybe it's just me.

Nmng4
01-15-20, 03:08
Hi all.

I have been in the mongering game for a few years now but looking to expand my options. Couple questions about SA.

-In your experience are most of the profiles real? I mean in the LA area its like 2 out of 3 look good to me (aspiring actresses or models).

-How do you approach the girls? Are you straight up like hey I'm looking for this (ie good conversation, bang bang, wine and dine date, travel).

-Whats an average amount they are expecting? Are most wanting a steady allowance or some good with donations at the time of meeting up?

Sorry for all of the questions. Just trying to get some idea before getting on there and sounding like a dummy. I am used to the make an appointment, do the deed, donation, and good home deal with kgirls.I've seen several and had arrangements with a handful. Yes, the ones I met we're real and look like their pics.

I usually start the way I would at a bar. Hi my name is (Fake name). Came across your profile, and was hoping to get to know you better.

Sometimes, I would drop my arrangement specifics with great success.

I did 300-500 ppm until I saw them several times then discuss what longer arrangements would be. Hotter they are, the more they are looking for. Takes about a month before you get traction from my experience.

Phone
01-15-20, 19:30
I'm not trying to see someone that's a full blown pro. I look at the lids. If they look like a BP girl or SW then pass. Are all their pics of them in front of a motel mirror? Pro. Pass. Do they discuss the like roses instead of money? Pro. Pass. Are they really eager to meet and fuck you after 1 message? Pro. Pass. Do they say everything is covered? Pro. Pass.Haha cool advice. Do you find the college verified filter useful?

Also, do you think if I lower age range to say 24 max, would that help?

LukeUp25
01-17-20, 04:16
BP Girl? SW?

Thanks in advance. Helpful tips by the way, at least the one's I understood.


I'm not trying to see someone that's a full blown pro. I look at the lids. If they look like a BP girl or SW then pass. Are all their pics of them in front of a motel mirror? Pro. Pass. Do they discuss the like roses instead of money? Pro. Pass. Are they really eager to meet and fuck you after 1 message? Pro. Pass. Do they say everything is covered? Pro. Pass.

Braddock1
01-17-20, 15:27
BP Girl? SW?

Thanks in advance. Helpful tips by the way, at least the one's I understood.BackPage girl / Sex Worker.

Ed 210
01-18-20, 22:52
Is it just me or is it difficult to set something up with azns on SA? I have had a few sucesses but most don't respond / conversation peters out, any tips?I just reactivated my account and was responding to messages.

This gal responded quickly with here phone number and is aggressively asking me to send over an uber.

She quoted $300.

https://www.seeking.com/member/e2e63e76-b75d-4278-bb8c-9fadd50d4cb8

I don't usually play at home unless after I've met the girl. Too many weirdos out there in LaLa land.

She gave me her address though, and then called me when I passed through text! Super aggressive.

Anyway, YMMV. I'm going to pass. Mainly because I get paid next week. Let me know if anything comes of it, especially if photos are real and if she has any kind of a body under that sweater.

Avocat
01-19-20, 16:52
I clicked on your link. This looking. Girl didn't fill out her profile. That is a huge red flag. If I were you I'd report her. Don't need girls like that ripping us off!


I should have know better, but I'm generally a trusting guy. Went on a dinner date with this one and had a nice time. Drove her back to her apartment where she asked for the allowance in the car, which I gave to her. She went inside while I parked and then she ghosted me. There's a lot more to the story, but bottom line is never ever give an allowance prematurely!

https://www.seeking.com/member/a556f830-a6b0-45b5-b3d7-2cc520a2a118

HollywoodGuy
01-19-20, 20:21
Its so nice to be back in L. A. The weather is awesome. I am working some crazy hours but managed to see my ATF for an overnite at the notel. We diverge politically but it never interferes with our relationship. At the moment closing in on 2 years and going good. The date was $$.5 with no sugar. Just the room, dinner and party favors.

HollywoodGuy
01-20-20, 01:32
I just reactivated my account and was responding to messages.

This gal responded quickly with here phone number and is aggressively asking me to send over an uber.

She quoted $300.

https://www.seeking.com/member/e2e63e76-b75d-4278-bb8c-9fadd50d4cb8

I don't usually play at home unless after I've met the girl. Too many weirdos out there in LaLa land.

She gave me her address though, and then called me when I passed through text! Super aggressive.

Anyway, YMMV. I'm going to pass. Mainly because I get paid next week. Let me know if anything comes of it, especially if photos are real and if she has any kind of a body under that sweater.Victoria800202 about 3 hours ago.

My phone number is+1111111111.

ME about 3 hours ago.

Thanks for your number, but before we get too far along in the conversation, let me ask you. Are you just looking for the highest offer? (because if you are, that wouldn't be me).

Victoria800202 about 2 hours ago.

I think we should date first.

ME about 2 hours ago.

No point in dating, if we can't agree what your time is worth. Blah, blah, blah. I pay $100 a date once we decide to start an arrangement (for an hour or more of your time).

ME about 2 hours ago.

I've just given you access to my private photos, go to my profile to view them.

Victoria800202 about 8 minutes ago.

You are very handsome.

Victoria800202 about 8 minutes ago.

100 is okay for me. But only eat and chat.

ME about a minute ago.

I,ll pass. And good luck.

Tetzuo9
01-20-20, 03:47
I just reactivated my account and was responding to messages.

This gal responded quickly with here phone number and is aggressively asking me to send over an uber.

She quoted $300.

https://www.seeking.com/member/e2e63e76-b75d-4278-bb8c-9fadd50d4cb8

I don't usually play at home unless after I've met the girl. Too many weirdos out there in LaLa land.

She gave me her address though, and then called me when I passed through text! Super aggressive.

Anyway, YMMV. I'm going to pass. Mainly because I get paid next week. Let me know if anything comes of it, especially if photos are real and if she has any kind of a body under that sweater.I got a message from her too. Wanted 300 and to meet at a cheap motel that was near her place. She knew the rates and everything for that spot. She's working her way up to pro I think. I passed too. 300 gets me way higher quality on that site. She's cute but 200 cute.

Mile22
01-21-20, 18:08
Apparently this chick is a pornstar.

https://www.seeking.com/member/2e0a395a-c324-4df9-afa3-b97a1b53a56b

Seems she's been in a few low budget flicks.

She's asking "1 k for the first meet, then $4 for every meet after".

If anyone wants to take her up on it, and let us know it goes LOL.

I just can't justify paying that much more to see a chick just because she's bounced on a D on film.

Especially with all the eager talent on SA.

Puss is puss. And it's hard to imagine any of these porn chicks are any more fun than the best civvie girls, SBs, or escorts.

HollywoodGuy
01-21-20, 21:12
Apparently this chick is a pornstar.

https://www.seeking.com/member/2e0a395a-c324-4df9-afa3-b97a1b53a56b

Seems she's been in a few low budget flicks.

She's asking "1 k for the first meet, then $4 for every meet after".

If anyone wants to take her up on it, and let us know it goes LOL.

I just can't justify paying that much more to see a chick just because she's bounced on a D on film.

Especially with all the eager talent on SA.

Puss is puss. And it's hard to imagine any of these porn chicks are any more fun than the best civvie girls, SBs, or escorts.An overweight pornstar.

SocalGuy323
01-22-20, 00:52
I got a message from her too. Wanted 300 and to meet at a cheap motel that was near her place. She knew the rates and everything for that spot. She's working her way up to pro I think. I passed too. 300 gets me way higher quality on that site. She's cute but 200 cute.She was super aggressive with me too. Maybe I'm special because she said I'm a hansum man, tho.

Thought that was a turn off. Agreed, I'd consider for 2, but hard pass at 3.

SidVicious
01-27-20, 14:34
https://www.seeking.com/member/9366a3ef-6c40-4de7-8742-988ddd996888

Anyone know anything about her? Pretty sure I saw her on another escort site just can't remember where.

MrlbFun
01-28-20, 05:11
Anyone have a really slow time the past two months? I noticed a lot of newish profiles with girls with only one photo, girls that barely reply to messages, and countless who want a little something that proves we are serious before they even meet up. It's going nowhere and the girls who I do manage to get so far as to text end up barely replying. It's not like I'm even low balling them at all. Idk maybe it's just me.How many profiles are you messaging at a time? Or how many open conversations do you have going at once?

I treat it like I'm a salesman getting ready to sit down at his desk and make some sales calls! I do it for like an hour every 3 to 4 days. I will just search and then every profile that seems interesting, I just open a new tab but I keep searching and opening new tabs. Then I will go to all my favorites and then open new tabs with ones I haven't talked to yet but have been logged on recently. Finally I just start sending a similar message to every tab, the first message never matters you just have to see if they will reply. If it's a really good profile and I don't get anything back (and they read it) I am sending a follow up email joking about how I knew that short message wasn't going to work on you and make a joke about it. No matter I'm trying to get her info and off the site within 2-3 messages.

The reason they are not replying to texts often is because they will reply when they need money!! That's why I have so many convos going. Also. You should always low ball because they are always going to try to bump you.