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[Luv Big Tetas]

There is no magic formula. Although I think the basic framework of mine would work for almost anyone, but like you say, filling their needs with what you have to offer. I am more of an instant gratification kind of guy and dont play the long game. I mostly just have a type and I stick to it, and let them know that they are in no uncertain terms a part of that group, whether its physically (which is where it all starts) and then to the emotional/psychological (which is what will seal the deal with an SB). The GPS asian I had recently was an interesting date only because physically we both were not the others type so much. But on a deep psychological level, she got to fulfill her fantasy. This shit definitely keeps me busy.

And I know its a generalization, but whenever I hear about how often someone goes hunting or fishing, I just think to myself... these guys don't have a clue. (and no offence to anyone that took it)I noticed you have a type, nothing wrong with that. Like you said, if you know what you want and you know how to get it, more power to ya. I prefer the psychological game because that's where my strength lies, the mental fuck. I don't have a 10 inch dick and not what you would call a "good looking guy". But I privately laugh to myself when I think of the hotties that have spent hours with me sharing with me their intimate dreams after a night of sex, knowing that if it weren't for SA they wouldn't have given me the time of day. I pull in about 130 k, I'm middle class at best, not a sugar daddy by LA standards, and yet I've managed to do ok in this game, from UCLA coeds, to aspiring country singers, to models, and little tight hoochie mommas. It's been a crazy ride, I know it won't last forever, and sometimes I wonder if for some of us that don't have the love of our life to live a regular meaningful fulfilling life, this is a consolation, and if it is. Trust me, when I'm at costco watching the mumu's with the scowl on their face because the hubby is taking too long to load the car. I am somewhat relieved. But as far as these guys that go fishing. We all want to eat. My only real beef is with the a--holes that are out on SA trying to scam girls out of freebies and give the rest of us a bad name. I sometimes feel compelled to share everything I know but then I'm like. This was from trail and error, f'ck that. Ha ha ha. But then I'm like it doesn't hurt to share a little bit.

[Luv Big Tetas]

There is no magic formula. Although I think the basic framework of mine would work for almost anyone, but like you say, filling their needs with what you have to offer. I am more of an instant gratification kind of guy and dont play the long game. I mostly just have a type and I stick to it, and let them know that they are in no uncertain terms a part of that group, whether its physically (which is where it all starts) and then to the emotional/psychological (which is what will seal the deal with an SB). The GPS asian I had recently was an interesting date only because physically we both were not the others type so much. But on a deep psychological level, she got to fulfill her fantasy. This shit definitely keeps me busy.

And I know its a generalization, but whenever I hear about how often someone goes hunting or fishing, I just think to myself... these guys don't have a clue. (and no offence to anyone that took it)The long game is a true hit and miss, but I can vouch that when you get a girl that was flaky and indecisive and aloof or needed some coaching. The experience is at a whole new level. For example there was this one girl whom I saw on SA about three years ago, and I loved her tits (I'm including a pic). She was cute, but she was very non committal, in fact she flaked on me a handful of times, and once when I was in her neighborhood. For about a solid three months, I would text her off and on, sometimes she'd respond, other times she wouldn't. And it went like that until one day, she was in my area and was like ok, I'll come by, she came by to my place, we chatted, I fucked her. And after that I saw her twice a week, for about 6 months until one day she just disappeared. Best rack I've ever seen on a girl. All natural, dd's. She had such a sweet voice. Thinking about her makes me hard. But that I would've lost on if I hadn't been persistent. Sometimes some of the girls, aren't really into the whole "arrangement", not all are hurting for cash, there's some who are just curious, or have their curiosity peaked. So while I agree that you have to decide WHO is worth investing the long game with, because some girls you see and you just go. If I can get her for tonight I'm good. But the long game can be fruitful. But to each his own.

[HollywoodGuy]

My only real beef is with the a--holes that are out on SA trying to scam girls out of freebies and give the rest of us a bad name. There is actually a lot more of that going on than I ever realized until I am not sure when, but there are guys, that are ROB's and then there are a bunch of check scammers as well. It's one reason I try to get them early on in their SB career (the other being they may have had a rich SD). If they have been around a while, most likely they have been scammed one way or another. I have encountered a few girls asking me about did I expect a free trial to test the chemistry, but not for a while now.

In reverse I don't know how many times in the past I've been duped out of like .3 for sending a girl "gas money" that never showed. At least 3 times a year. I am like Charlie and the football when it comes to that shit.

I have an exclusive account for SA but one of the girls I messaged must have been a russian spammer because no matter how many emails I block I still get a few spams a day trying to get me to verify, or some other BS.

[FarFarAway]

I noticed you have a type, nothing wrong with that. Like you said, if you know what you want and you know how to get it, more power to ya. I prefer the psychological game because that's where my strength lies, the mental fuck. I don't have a 10 inch dick and not what you would call a "good looking guy". But I privately laugh to myself when I think of the hotties that have spent hours with me sharing with me their intimate dreams after a night of sex, knowing that if it weren't for SA they wouldn't have given me the time of day. I pull in about 130 k, I'm middle class at best, not a sugar daddy by LA standards, and yet I've managed to do ok in this game, from UCLA coeds, to aspiring country singers, to models, and little tight hoochie mommas.I appreciate your saying you are from LA, I wondered if we were fishing in the same pond. I do congratulate you, you've got game, obviously, but you've got another advantage over some of us. No SO. I can't drop everything on a moment's notice b / c a POT suddenly got broke or horny and wants to take the plunge. I also appreciate the sudden diarrhea of the fingers you've had, I do like to read some diversity of experience and opinion on the thread.

[HollywoodGuy]

I appreciate your saying you are from LA, I wondered if we were fishing in the same pond. I do congratulate you, you've got game, obviously, but you've got another advantage over some of us. No SO. I can't drop everything on a moment's notice b / c a POT suddenly got broke or horny and wants to take the plunge. I also appreciate the sudden diarrhea of the fingers you've had, I do like to read some diversity of experience and opinion on the thread.Yes, please guys, there are over 500 of you reading this thread. Please chip in. And I see I am not the only early riser. LOL. Going back to stats for a minute my ideal girl is always going to be between 18-22 (I don't even search SA for older than that as a rule) 5.2-5.5 and 100-110. And of course AA or mixed AA.

Also I never sugared when I had an SO (except one time at the 7 year itch stage of my second marriage), but having a true live-in GF there are some restrictions and expenses. She knowingly is OK with it (as she revels in her GF status), but I never throw it in her face, hence the need for the no-tel. Thank god I have a great one near my house. I never have to make excuses as to why I am going out at nite, but I also miss out on a lot of spontaneous opportunities that were some of my best catches in the past, where I would bring them straight to my place for a quick or not so quick bang.

Also I know that I have dominated this thread for far too long, I actually deleted maybe 200 posts about two years ago just to thin it out a bit. And I think I deleted all my posts from the richmond thread, but I haven't clicked on it in so long I cant remember.

[Al Melrose]

Can you please send some of the hot AA chicks in LA over to Chicago, clicking on some of your finds I have had a couple state they would be willing to travel, but I'm not up to throwing money out the window. Lately I have been hearing more and more from SA girls about being scammed, lots of no pays. Not sure if true or not. A few with bad checks, who the heck takes a check! Just last night I saw my 2nd SB from about two years ago back on the site. I asked what she had been up to, got the same story from two years ago long time SD, working too much so they can't spend time together. Haha, well it is usually SD got transferred.

[HollywoodGuy]

I see I spent some serious coin looking for the next best thing this month. I saw five new girls. Three were a total washout. One was the asian GPS that will never call me again (who knows, but highly unlikely). And one decent SB, the nerdy actress. A true SB, just not totally my type. Kinda light-skinned, a little thick (but firm), but good personality, and has a new car. On my scale of 1-10, maybe, maybe a 6. 5 ? . I am a little spoiled with my not so new little girl. She is GF material. But she is distant. I lost my ATF of 3 years a few months ago for good. A little extra money would solve this problem. But things are very tight right now.

[HollywoodGuy]

Can you please send some of the hot AA chicks in LA over to Chicago, clicking on some of your finds I have had a couple state they would be willing to travel, but I'm not up to throwing money out the window. Lately I have been hearing more and more from SA girls about being scammed, lots of no pays. Not sure if true or not. A few with bad checks, who the heck takes a check! Just last night I saw my 2nd SB from about two years ago back on the site. I asked what she had been up to, got the same story from two years ago long time SD, working too much so they can't spend time together. Haha, well it is usually SD got transferred.Hot AA's in chicago? There must a slew of them, attitude wise, that may be another story, but in the looks dept, I can't believe that. I bet if I look now I can find 10 amazing ones.

[TopGun9]

For now all four of these girls (all SB's), have agreed to my offer. But until they actually meet you its always a crap shoot. These are the real SB's. All young, maybe all first timers (except #3). They get excited being new on the site, but then the crazy offers start to roll in. So either they get lucky or get burned, either way it f's up my game.God damn. Why do LA got so many hot young babes?

[HollywoodGuy]

God damn. Why do LA got so many hot young babes?I don't know where you live, but the guy in chicago saying there were no hot AA girls. I sent him a list of a dozen smoking hot AA girls I found in 5 minutes.

[Tipisil]

I have been trying to arrange something with a sweet 19 year old black girl. Tried last week to schedule a meet up but she couldn't get her act together. I have been waiting for her all day today, finally got a hold of her and she said that she was almost ready to leave. Told her that that was it, I was done trying.

Why can't they seem to get their act together. I live a little farther from LA now (which I told her so often) but it came as a surprise that she found out.

I was willing to try and keep trying because she was sweet and young, but damn get your act together.

[HollywoodGuy]

She won't even reply to my message. Maybe some younger guy can get her attention. Fresh.

https://www.seeking.com/member/ed774214-a95f-4973-be13-fb2921ea8b9b

[HuksAlot]

This one is new to SA and is probably very inexperienced at being a SB.

She is young and probably inexperienced with men in general.

Highly unlikely she has ever communicated with an older man before where the meet plans might move to the FC.

On a side note she has 'platonic' listed in her profile. I didn't think that platonic dates were part of your baby pursuit activities.


I have been trying to arrange something with a sweet 19 year old black girl. Tried last week to schedule a meet up but she couldn't get her act together. I have been waiting for her all day today, finally got a hold of her and she said that she was almost ready to leave. Told her that that was it, I was done trying.

Why can't they seem to get their act together. I live a little farther from LA now (which I told her so often) but it came as a surprise that she found out.

I was willing to try and keep trying because she was sweet and young, but damn get your act together.

[HollywoodGuy]

This one is new to SA and is probably very inexperienced at being a SB.

She is young and probably inexperienced with men in general.

Highly unlikely she has ever communicated with an older man before where the meet plans might move to the FC.

On a side note she has 'platonic' listed in her profile. I didn't think that platonic dates were part of your baby pursuit activities.I assume this was meant for me. Platonic? . that girl is no virgin. LOL.

[HollywoodGuy]

I been with my not so new little girl for 5 months now. Met her two weeks after her 18th bday. Seen her an average of once a week since then. I found this exchange today on SA dated from before I met her. When questioning her about her expectations she said. "I won't lie to you I'm expensive but its because I have bills to pay and student debt". I just paid no attention to that and kept pursuing her. So far she has averaged just over a $ a date since day 1.

The point is if you see a girl that is your type exactly to a tee, let her know that, and keep pursuing her unless she is adamant about having GPS.

[HollywoodGuy]

A good reason to hit them up when their profile is brand new. This little freshman deleted hers after 3 days. Managed to get her cel phone # before that happened. Her profile said something about platonic. I forget what that means. Anyway we are still txting.

[HollywoodGuy]

Luxury Lifestyle?

https://www.seeking.com/member/b643be18-b0c5-4bd0-81fd-d419e25d84bd

I would love to have a car date with her in the backseat of my 10 year old bomber. Still in the prelim stage of the convo.

[JohnRichard]

For now all four of these girls (all SB's), have agreed to my offer. But until they actually meet you its always a crap shoot. These are the real SB's. All young, maybe all first timers (except #3). They get excited being new on the site, but then the crazy offers start to roll in. So either they get lucky or get burned, either way it f's up my game.I prefer to look where I have the easiest access. OC but I have searched LA many times because a lot of girls near the 91 put down LA instead of their actual city.

These girls don't pop up at all. Do you use a particular search term?

[JohnRichard]

Luxury Lifestyle?

https://www.seeking.com/member/b643be18-b0c5-4bd0-81fd-d419e25d84bd

I would love to have a car date with her in the backseat of my 10 year old bomber. Still in the prelim stage of the convo.Wow! Just amazing.

[HollywoodGuy]

I prefer to look where I have the easiest access. OC but I have searched LA many times because a lot of girls near the 91 put down LA instead of their actual city.

These girls don't pop up at all. Do you use a particular search term?I just search 18-22, AA or mixed for my area or sometimes up to 50 miles away just to see what's out there. That kinda sucks though because then I see all the girls from anaheim, lancaster. And ontario and farther that I will most likely never see.

[HollywoodGuy]

Wow! Just amazing.I am just in the introduction stage with her so far. Waiting for her next reply.

[HollywoodGuy]

I am just in the introduction stage with her so far. Waiting for her next reply.Last reply wasn't good. Due to her not fully understanding my message. LOL. Trying to see if I can reel her back in. But I might have lost her.

[Mile22]

All the recent traffic & story-telling in the thread has inspired me to share my own SA experience.

I've been on the site for nearly a year.

I'm married, but had been with my wife for over 10 years prior to tying the knot.

She gave me a hall pass as an anniversary gift.

Initially used it on HX, but SA is better for what I'm seeking.

It expires at the end of this year though so my time is coming to an end.

I've met with all types over the last year.

Will do a write-up sharing what's worked for me & my various experiences, and post here in a few days.

[Ivonnahumpalot]

Yes, please guys, there are over 500 of you reading this thread. Please chip in. And I see I am not the only early riser. ......................Also I know that I have dominated this thread for far too long, I actually deleted maybe 200 posts about two years ago just to thin it out a bit. And I think I deleted all my posts from the richmond thread, but I haven't clicked on it in so long I cant remember.HG I'm sorry-guilty as charged. I was early-retired from SA (they suspended me). I did have 10 SB's total over the last year and a half & maybe time to share the stories I guess. Regarding Seeking Arraignment, I think the new FOSTA SESTA has them all a little spun up. I was able to sneak on briefly and noticed many fewer profiles came up in my search. Luckily my ATF SB stuck so I don't need them anymore. Thanks for sharing the key info.

[BigBadNut]

Please share the SA adventure. I have had a few non Pro Massages that went this direction. Considered SA but need more intel. How did you keep it off the radar?

Thanks!!


All the recent traffic & story-telling in the thread has inspired me to share my own SA experience.

I've been on the site for nearly a year.

I'm married, but had been with my wife for over 10 years prior to tying the knot.

She gave me a hall pass as an anniversary gift.

Initially used it on HX, but SA is better for what I'm seeking.

It expires at the end of this year though so my time is coming to an end.

I've met with all types over the last year.

Will do a write-up sharing what's worked for me & my various experiences, and post here in a few days.

[HollywoodGuy]

Luxury Lifestyle?

https://www.seeking.com/member/b643be18-b0c5-4bd0-81fd-d419e25d84bd

I would love to have a car date with her in the backseat of my 10 year old bomber. Still in the prelim stage of the convo.Moved her along to my offer. Waiting for the sticker shock to wear off.

[Alxm1]

Fuck Crib. I like that. But it's actually fuck chamber. And keep up the good work. And post some detailed reports. Much appreciated.Got it, thanks for the definition.

Just last night met up with a cute Japanese mid-twentys girl off SA. Set it up quick after a few messages and met her the same day right after work. She's only been in the US a year. Initially was set for. 7 at her place for just nude BJ and swallow. Once I was there and ate her sushi out well. She wanted to fvck as well. So I ended up giving her $ for everything. Got two good nuts with her. Her BJ needs some work so I started showing her to go deeper which she did. The rest of it was great with cowgirl and doggy. Nice girl.

[HollywoodGuy]

Got it, thanks for the definition.

Just last night met up with a cute Japanese mid-twentys girl off SA. Set it up quick after a few messages and met her the same day right after work. She's only been in the US a year. Initially was set for. 7 at her place for just nude BJ and swallow. Once I was there and ate her sushi out well. She wanted to fvck as well. So I ended up giving her $ for everything. Got two good nuts with her. Her BJ needs some work so I started showing her to go deeper which she did. The rest of it was great with cowgirl and doggy. Nice girl.This is my technique as well. I offer a $ for some R rated action, which most times leads to the X rated action. Every time with UTR's and half the time or more with SB's.

[Alxm1]

This is my technique as well. I offer a $ for some R rated action, which most times leads to the X rated action. Every time with UTR's and half the time or more with SB's.Exactly. Just need the foot in the door. Or tongue in the kitty. LOL.

[HollywoodGuy]

I had one today, she says to me "I'm an outcall sugar baby". I passed. LOL.

[HollywoodGuy]

Luxury Lifestyle?

https://www.seeking.com/member/b643be18-b0c5-4bd0-81fd-d419e25d84bd

I would love to have a car date with her in the backseat of my 10 year old bomber. Still in the prelim stage of the convo.She wanted me to take her and her GF (the gf is on the right) out and then party in the room after. I calculate that would have been about $$$$ . So I passed.

[Large Ess]

My constant battle is my perceived appetite vs. My real appetite vs. My capital. It has kept me out of the bowl for a couple months. Today I met a nearby cutie that I have had on the string for months. She always responded when I texted though so I thought I would give it a shot. She was totally up for it. Came over. First and only SD she has ever met but she has had plenty of sex. Tall and slender, a bit disassociated but loves sex. We chatted for a bit and after about 15 minutes, I told her she could take her coat off which she did. Got her laughing and told her I wanted to give her a massage if she was into it and she said, "Of course. ".

"Do you want to have sex?

"Of course. ".

So then it was just time to indulge and give her a great time. She has beautiful shaped breasts, deep dark rich skin and a great, great ass. She has her family convinced she is still a virgin but she has been fucking for a long time. We had great chemistry. I am looking forward to seeing her again.

[HollywoodGuy]

My constant battle is my perceived appetite vs. My real appetite vs. My capital. It has kept me out of the bowl for a couple months. Today I met a nearby cutie that I have had on the string for months. She always responded when I texted though so I thought I would give it a shot. She was totally up for it. Came over. First and only SD she has ever met but she has had plenty of sex. Tall and slender, a bit disassociated but loves sex. We chatted for a bit and after about 15 minutes, I told her she could take her coat off which she did. Got her laughing and told her I wanted to give her a massage if she was into it and she said, "Of course. ".

"Do you want to have sex?

"Of course. ".

So then it was just time to indulge and give her a great time. She has beautiful shaped breasts, deep dark rich skin and a great, great ass. She has her family convinced she is still a virgin but she has been fucking for a long time. We had great chemistry. I am looking forward to seeing her again.Great report... pics to follow?

[HollywoodGuy]

Banned search words. If you can find a word in a girls profile that is unsearchable add it to the list.

Lolita.

https://www.seeking.com/member/21697125-119b-b38b-e992-a3e05a631755

GFE.

Fuck.

Ppm.

[HollywoodGuy]

Supposed to meet her tomorrow night. At first she seemed very excited, then she went MIA. I emailed her and she said she was worried about being scammed. I thought she just had second thoughts about me in one way or another. These scammers whatever they are doing, they need to stop. lol.

[Large Ess]

Great report... pics to follow?May take a while. I asked her and she said she's not photogenic. I think she is pretty savvy so that may just be an excuse or she could actually feel that way. I run into a lot of women who have very bad ideas of their beauty. I am certain you run into that as well.

[Large Ess]

Supposed to meet her tomorrow night. At first she seemed very excited, then she went MIA. I emailed her and she said she was worried about being scammed. I thought she just had second thoughts about me in one way or another. These scammers whatever they are doing, they need to stop. lol.You see it in the profiles when they say "I will not give you my bank account info. " The girl yesterday ran into it as well. Makes it difficult for everyone.

[HollywoodGuy]

You see it in the profiles when they say "I will not give you my bank account info. " The girl yesterday ran into it as well. Makes it difficult for everyone.I may have to pass on her. It says she is 5.6 in her SA profile. But I google her and she is a college athlete. She has her height at 5.9 - 5.10. If she was really skinny or super pretty I wouldn't mind. But she is pretty solid, and just average in looks. She is going to freak? when I tell her. But she really needs to fix that in her profile. I am sure I would have never messaged her if I knew that upfront. Glad I have a day to think about it. But if I look at my history, its just not gonna work out.

[HollywoodGuy]

Did a traditional M&G today (first time in a long time) with a 25 year old petite, straight out of Africa girl. She had a smoldering sexiness to her. Interesting story. Got married at 20 and lost her vijayjay card to her husband. The only guy she has ever been with. And that ended two years ago (talk about some pent up sexual energy). So I would actually be #2 (if it gets that far). Lives 15 minutes away. Pulled up to her place and talked in the car for maybe 30 minutes, and then left.

Very straight laced. Never partied. Just school, marriage and motherhood. A real find.

[Bucweak]

Have anyone seen her on here? Is she worth it? I have not contacted her yet, but she's hot on film.

https://www.seeking.com/member/66dc7b46-74dd-55e5-ce42-506a7670a924

[HollywoodGuy]

I just realized that a lot of the girls I message never get back to me, must be my age. I always laugh when they say they want someone that can keep up with them.

[HollywoodGuy]

Seeking.

Designer Clothing & Accessories.
Fine Dining.
Luxury lifestyle.
Tuition & School Support.
Vacations.

I think of these things as more of a wish list than a demand (unless they are blond haired blue eyed model). Don't be deterred in your pursuit of the holy grail.

[Large Ess]

Did a traditional M&G today (first time in a long time) with a 25 year old petite, straight out of Africa girl. She had a smoldering sexiness to her. Interesting story. Got married at 20 and lost her vijayjay card to her husband. The only guy she has ever been with. And that ended two years ago (talk about some pent up sexual energy). So I would actually be #2 (if it gets that far). Lives 15 minutes away. Pulled up to her place and talked in the car for maybe 30 minutes, and then left.

Very straight laced. Never partied. Just school, marriage and motherhood. A real find.Strange parallel universe. I did a M&G with a 35 year MILF who has been with the same guy for two decades and is now looking. Only been with him. Great body on her and she showed up looking very sexy. But she has only been with the one guy and isn't really a SB have to be very patient with her if I choose to pursue. It becomes something a the hunt overshadowing the ultimate experience.

[HollywoodGuy]

Strange parallel universe. I did a M&G with a 35 year MILF who has been with the same guy for two decades and is now looking. Only been with him. Great body on her and she showed up looking very sexy. But she has only been with the one guy and isn't really a SB have to be very patient with her if I choose to pursue. It becomes something a the hunt overshadowing the ultimate experience.These are true NP's. Until they get paid, then they go to SB status.

[DickensCider]

www.seeking.com/member/3e4166ef-bc9d-42fd-97aa-cbd33d0e1a3c

Thinks she's hot shit. I made a comment on how she claims to be the best and she immediately got bent out of shape. No personality. She's new and demanding big bucks, poor thing will get a dose of reality.

[Boobman76]

Trying to share more as requested by HG, but my adventures are no where near his haha.

Had a M&G last night with a 22 yo Latina. She chose to meet at Wingstop so I bought her a combo and ate a few of the fries as we talked at one of the outside tables. Very nice girl, cute, fun, but not worth the $$$$ she is asking (I got her down to $$$.5 but that's still too much) I only went to the M&G out of curiosity to see what she really looked like as she only has a pic of her with a snapchat filter on it. Anyway we finish the food and she asks if I want to talk in the car. Hell yes I do for the privacy haha I drove to a more secluded area in the parking lot and we talked for another 5 minutes before we began making out. It wasn't much longer until I was sucking on her tits. I got 2 fingers in her soon after and she was slippery wet. This went on for nearly an hour in the front seat of my car before we said our goodbyes. Not a bad night for the price of a 5 strip Wingstop combo haha.

I don't normally M&G. I usually negotiate the price and then they come straight to my FC. I've probably missed out on a lot of fun make out sessions due to that, so I'm going to try and schedule more M&G's.

[HollywoodGuy]

www.seeking.com/member/3e4166ef-bc9d-42fd-97aa-cbd33d0e1a3c

Thinks she's hot shit. I made a comment on how she claims to be the best and she immediately got bent out of shape. No personality. She's new and demanding big bucks, poor thing will get a dose of reality.Whenever they say I am not a prostitute / escort / pro it's kind of a red flag. Always pass on those.

[HollywoodGuy]

Trying to share more as requested by HG, but my adventures are no where near his haha.

Had a M&G last night with a 22 yo Latina. She chose to meet at Wingstop so I bought her a combo and ate a few of the fries as we talked at one of the outside tables. Very nice girl, cute, fun, but not worth the $$$$ she is asking (I got her down to $$$.5 but that's still too much) I only went to the M&G out of curiosity to see what she really looked like as she only has a pic of her with a snapchat filter on it. Anyway we finish the food and she asks if I want to talk in the car. Hell yes I do for the privacy haha I drove to a more secluded area in the parking lot and we talked for another 5 minutes before we began making out. It wasn't much longer until I was sucking on her tits. I got 2 fingers in her soon after and she was slippery wet. This went on for nearly an hour in the front seat of my car before we said our goodbyes. Not a bad night for the price of a 5 strip Wingstop combo haha.

I don't normally M&G. I usually negotiate the price and then they come straight to my FC. I've probably missed out on a lot of fun make out sessions due to that, so I'm going to try and schedule more M&G's.You make a good point there. Back when I used to do a lot of M&G's I can remember a few similar scenarios. If you see enough girls, some crazy shit is going to happen, and sometimes for no sugar at all. you go bro.

[FarFarAway]

Trying to share more as requested by HG, but my adventures are no where near his haha.

I don't normally M&G. I usually negotiate the price and then they come straight to my FC. I've probably missed out on a lot of fun make out sessions due to that, so I'm going to try and schedule more M&G's.I agree. HG's past recommendations have been if you get a girl in your car, you have to go in for a kiss, as I recall. I am usually the one to suggest talking someplace more 'private' at the M&G, to get her into one of our cars. I also flip it around. Sometimes, it can be awkward to initiate, reaching across the car, etc. Especially w / really young white girls, I sometimes wonder if they are really down to do a guy 3 x their age, so I test them. I tell them to kiss me, if they do, I figure they are likely to be brave enough to FC w / me. BTW, many people have the view that if a girl is willing to M&G, they have already decided they are willing to f* you if the price is right. Asking / telling them to kiss me is also a good test for girls that I perceive from my earlier interaction with them might be submissive. If they like to be told what do to, they will comply.

What tells do I use for submissive? Often they come right out and say something in their profile. I also ask them if they are the type of woman who likes her man to be in the lead. Often they come back w / 'oh yes, I am very submissive' and give you hints about what they'd like. Hair pulling, spanking, face f**ing, a little restraint / forcing. Sometimes girls who wear chokers in their profile pix turn out to be submissive. I have been in the bowl nearly 3 years, I feel pretty confident in my abilities to perceive the girls who are submissive, or at least aspire to it. I do ask them how they know they are, and sometimes they will say they saw videos. That is a little less certain in my experience, they might desire it in the abstract, but not have the courage to actually meet the guy who is going to tie their hands behind their back with his silk necktie (yes, I have done this multiple times, and it always got rave reviews).

Another approach I have taken in the car at the M&G is to reach across and touch a girls lips, just gently stroke them. In two recent examples I recall, this lead almost immediately to the girls sucking on my fingers like they were a dick, and then into making out and hands in her pants.

[Large Ess]

I agree. HG's past recommendations have been if you get a girl in your car, you have to go in for a kiss, as I recall. I am usually the one to suggest talking someplace more 'private' at the M&G, to get her into one of our cars. I also flip it around. Sometimes, it can be awkward to initiate, reaching across the car, etc. Especially w / really young white girls, I sometimes wonder if they are really down to do a guy 3 x their age, so I test them. I tell them to kiss me, if they do, I figure they are likely to be brave enough to FC w / me. BTW, many people have the view that if a girl is willing to M&G, they have already decided they are willing to f* you if the price is right. Asking / telling them to kiss me is also a good test for girls that I perceive from my earlier interaction with them might be submissive. If they like to be told what do to, they will comply.

What tells do I use for submissive? Often they come right out and say something in their profile. I also ask them if they are the type of woman who likes her man to be in the lead. Often they come back w / 'oh yes, I am very submissive' and give you hints about what they'd like. Hair pulling, spanking, face f**ing, a little restraint / forcing. Sometimes girls who wear chokers in their profile pix turn out to be submissive. I have been in the bowl nearly 3 years, I feel pretty confident in my abilities to perceive the girls who are submissive, or at least aspire to it. I do ask them how they know they are, and sometimes they will say they saw videos. That is a little less certain in my experience, they might desire it in the abstract, but not have the courage to actually meet the guy who is going to tie their hands behind their back with his silk necktie (yes, I have done this multiple times, and it always got rave reviews).

Another approach I have taken in the car at the M&G is to reach across and touch a girls lips, just gently stroke them. In two recent examples I recall, this lead almost immediately to the girls sucking on my fingers like they were a dick, and then into making out and hands in her pants.Just anecdotally, I have found more SB's to want to be spanked and submissive than Civs.

[HollywoodGuy]

Just anecdotally, I have found more SB's to want to be spanked and submissive than Civs.SB's in general are more sexually adventurous. It just goes with the territory. It's like girls that only date bikers or bangers. Different strokes but just doing something outside their comfort zone for thrills. Thats why the $ offer is so interesting, usually you do just get the more financially desperate, but not always. Sometimes its a test to see if they are more desperate for the cash or the thrill. My not so new little girl only had one SD before me. She took about 5k off that guy and never even touched him until he became so angry that it finally ended. Now she is taking a $ a date. Why? because her physical and emotional needs outweigh her financial ones.

She told me that she thought her sex life was kinda kinky until she met me. She sort of prides herself on being on the edge. She is a raver. At first she was even a little intimidated, now she cant wait to get her hands dirty.

[Boobman76]

Thats why the $ offer is so interesting, usually you do just get the more financially desperate, but not always. Sometimes its a test to see if they are more desperate for the cash or the thrill.That's part of the thrill for me is finding out if they want it for the money, or the thrill. The last girl I took to the FC was a 21 year old latina, slim, 5'8", wore glasses that made her look like a hot librarian, and had shoulder length purple hair. For her this was a great look! We had our 1st FC encounter for $$. Things go great. She allows BBFSCIP, so I'm happy. She texts me to set up a 2nd FC meet and asks me if $. 5 is ok. She suggested taking less money without me ever hinting or asking. She was worth the $$ so I had no problem with that, but sure if she offers to take less money, ok. For a girl like her I think it was the thrill. She's since ghosted me on text and I haven't seen her in a month and a half. Would have liked to have seen her more than twice and kept her around. She's one of those unicorn types that you don't find often. Sometimes they just come and go quickly like that. I'm guessing the thrill for her was over. Not so for me LOL.

[HollywoodGuy]

That's part of the thrill for me is finding out if they want it for the money, or the thrill. The last girl I took to the FC was a 21 year old latina, slim, 5'8", wore glasses that made her look like a hot librarian, and had shoulder length purple hair. For her this was a great look! We had our 1st FC encounter for $$. Things go great. She allows BBFSCIP, so I'm happy. She texts me to set up a 2nd FC meet and asks me if $. 5 is ok. She suggested taking less money without me ever hinting or asking. She was worth the $$ so I had no problem with that, but sure if she offers to take less money, ok. For a girl like her I think it was the thrill. She's since ghosted me on text and I haven't seen her in a month and a half. Would have liked to have seen her more than twice and kept her around. She's one of those unicorn types that you don't find often. Sometimes they just come and go quickly like that. I'm guessing the thrill for her was over. Not so for me LOL.Like this girl. I had her in the palm of my hand. All I had to do was step up to $$ and drive the 2 hours to see her. That may sound crazy, but when they are this hot (and fresh), maybe not so crazy. But due to me hesitating, I lost her, and I believe so did the rest of the sugar world, as she has not checked into the site in days. Another creeped out (or disillusioned) newbie.

https://www.seeking.com/member/c2f263ba-b1ac-4693-a5d0-15c3a5f123de

In good conscience I can not go to $$ at this time. But I have decided that when I get back on my feet I will pay that amount from time to time as some of these girls are just too hot, not to make them a memory (even if its only once or twice).

[HollywoodGuy]

11 - still in the getting to know you stage

22 - wants $$ per date

33 - supposed to meet her tomorrow night

[DavidTheSancho]

I wanted to take a break from the bowl until 2019 as I've been seeing someone but it's so hard to resist temptation. Have two latinas that want to meet but they are on the high side. $$$ I'm sure I can get one down but I doubt the other who I have pictured.

And to share one of my stories I met a girl on SA that had just moved to town to break into the film field. Weird to me since she had moved from LA where she worked for a tv studio already but oh well. Really cool girl and we went out for dinner and back to my place after. Gave the best head I've had in my life and she swallowed every last drop. Went again in the morning before I had to go to work. She said she wouldn't mind if I didn't give her an allowance and said she's glad she had a good time and we go our separate ways. We met another time with the same results. We texted often and she mentioned wanting help finding a place and if I could help her out. I offered staying with me for a bit while she found something permanent and she seemed fond of the idea. A couple days later though she completely ghosts me and I never hear from her again. Until about a year later. I get a bunch of wild texts saying that she wants the money I owe her and that she knows where I live and work and would not be afraid to cause a scene. After some back and forth I finally just send her $$$ through cashapp and never hear from her again. I did find her social media during the time she ghosted me and she was working at some old guys theatre doing something with film. I figured he must have cut her off or something and she really needed some cash.

[GoldenMan]

Sitting here at John Wayne airport, waiting to catch my flight to Vegas.

Last weekend I checked SA girls in Vegas and found dozens upon dozens of young lovelies who imply that short-term meetups are preferred and out-of-towners are welcome. Some obvious professionals, some obvious non-professionals, some ambiguous. A good time to be had, nonetheless.

I booked a suite at the Wynn for 4 nights, and began blasting out messages, presenting myself honestly as a Las Vegas visitor from Southern California looking to have a good time, and hopefully develop chemistry that will result in repeat meetups and visits.

The responses were overwhelming and the last 48 have been seen a flurry of logistical preparations that would make General Eisenhower proud. But I have succeeded in keeping my schedule completely full.

I have a dinner date tonight (Thursday), and then both a lunch and dinner date for each other day, each with a different girl. Flying back home Monday morning.

I know I'm setting myself up for GPS, but I don't care. I can afford it. Will report back with details.

[Horseman69]

Fellas,

A pleasure to share some adventures with why'all. You guys are legendary and one can only wish achieve rock status as that of other members. Anyways, after being sidelined for a few months and taking a much needed break its time fr some A1 hunting. Again. Ruthlessly.

Been browsing SA for a good second but finally took the time to and finally to time to pay membershi and so far it looks promsing. Here's a time line:

Oct 10: Opened profile back (after 7 mths hiatus) after a night of drinking and celebrating Laker win. Was feeling good, dick was hard so why not jump into the pnd again.

Oct 11: Several messages. Lots of prospects with interesting things to say. Had to browse carefully; many pros / non pros and I'm a bit rusty on hoe this waters run. Anywyas, one catches my eye so I decided to send out the first message. A Ginger girl with curly hair with bubbly personality; lets see where this goes.

Lunch Hour: Damn, its hard to work with so much distraction! These pond is defnitily full and plenty of fish to be caught. One observation: Lots of you guy are really throwing bands at these girls or these girls expectations have gone way up since the name change. Lots of prospects but one really intrigues: Ginger. Going back and forth almost all day. Young girl, down to earth with a good case going for her. Not a pro but I can see her headed in that direction in no time. Just moved to LA from Stl, WSHG. Says moneys short and is down to 'hang out'. I propose a drink after work and am immediately taken up on it. Meeting is later; she's talked flowers but nothing on stone. Fish still not caught it seems.

DATE TIME: Got there erlier and she shows up just right after. Cute girl from neck down. A bit of a butter face but just cute enough. She's wearing a nice little skirt with a skimpy top; no bra is notable since it was chilly. Talked for a bit over some cool drinks. Cinderella starts to feel comfortable and losen up. Skirt starting to reaveal some cute black undies while the cool night perks up her top. Hard to contain myself so offer to drive over to my place for so we can chill more comfortably. Talks about having cash apps and I say I don't do that. Flaunt my wet wally overfloating in curre $$why tho and attitudes changed almost instantly. Head back to my place.

Little talk before the pumpiing gets rolling. Man life's good, I had almst forgot the fullfilling art of hunting effectively and quickly. Nice, tight kitty at the apex of moisture season. I can feel my little man shoving and shving ever so easily, ever so deep, ever so satisfyingly. Pump for a good 30 to 45 mins till I blow a nut that must had suckerpunched that cervix. Wow, can barely breadth and this girl seemed happy with the kitty punishment she just receive. It might be a ginger thing LOL. Anyway, get off, clean up and back to just chiling in bed. Her phone goes off and tells me she has to leave because her roomate just got home. I say cool, let me walk you out. Chivalry is not dead, just dormant for the right occasions. Bring wet wally over and I make sure she leaves happy with enough for a replica to the same outfit being worn today. She seems legitly happy and tells me she'll tell me when home and when to meet again. I say Okay, aready thinking that she talks a little too much and I'm low key happy to see her go already; there's more hunting in the horizon since the pond is full.

Keep Sailin'.

-Horseman69.

[Wobbowobbo]

Sitting here at John Wayne airport, waiting to catch my flight to Vegas.

Last weekend I checked SA girls in Vegas and found dozens upon dozens of young lovelies who imply that short-term meetups are preferred and out-of-towners are welcome. Some obvious professionals, some obvious non-professionals, some ambiguous. A good time to be had, nonetheless.

I booked a suite at the Wynn for 4 nights, and began blasting out messages, presenting myself honestly as a Las Vegas visitor from Southern California looking to have a good time, and hopefully develop chemistry that will result in repeat meetups and visits.

The responses were overwhelming and the last 48 have been seen a flurry of logistical preparations that would make General Eisenhower proud. But I have succeeded in keeping my schedule completely full.

I have a dinner date tonight (Thursday), and then both a lunch and dinner date for each other day, each with a different girl. Flying back home Monday morning.

I know I'm setting myself up for GPS, but I don't care. I can afford it. Will report back with details.I have had good and bad times with SA while in Vegas. I did a few doubles with 2 out of towner girls that didn't want money so much as they wanted the 'Vegas' experience which meant the wine and dine, entry to clubs or shows. Maybe 600 in expenses got me 2 full nights of nut after nut after nut in each of them. I had most of it expensed through work.

Other times I got hustled by pros which were the worst experiences ever. Any girl that says they are a dancer I now automatically avoid because of GPS and constant upsell.

My advice is that if you come across any girl that is cash strapped in Vegas and visiting with friends to go to some festival then you are in for a good time. The type of festival will also determine the type of tail you are going to get.

Viva Las Vegas: Rockabilly and Goth type tatted chicks.

EDC: Raver chicks that are dressed like techno hookers already.

And so on.

[HollywoodGuy]

Dark chocolate lovers, beware, clicking on this link may cause you to start rationalizing those GPS rates you have sworn to the past.

https://www.seeking.com/member/b3f6ef42-fc98-40f4-afbf-64ad893a20e9

Because of my initial approach, girls like this (and her specifically) think we are a perfect match. But then I lower the boom. Its times like these that wish I was rich.

But then, here and there they say yes. I will report back on her, god willing.

[HollywoodGuy]

This one quoted me $$.5, so I ghosted her. Today she clicked back on my profile. God I hate being teased.

https://www.seeking.com/member/87d2cea2-74b2-4106-8945-a40eac9d5a5b

[HollywoodGuy]

This little (5.1") babydoll is considering my $ offer, but wants to do a traditional M&G first. I may do that Saturday. She is a good example of a girl whose fantasies may outweigh her financial needs. The last M&G I did was with the GPS asian, and the one before that was my nerdy actress, so maybe luck is on my side. One thing I learned a long tome ago.. is never think a simple M&G is just to have lunch (or whatever) and then go your separate ways (thinking the FC date will be planned for later), you gotta be prepared for the heat of the moment taking over at any time. Like the girls that say they like guys that are spontaneous in their profiles. Be Prepared.

[HollywoodGuy]

Sitting here at John Wayne airport, waiting to catch my flight to Vegas.

Last weekend I checked SA girls in Vegas and found dozens upon dozens of young lovelies who imply that short-term meetups are preferred and out-of-towners are welcome. Some obvious professionals, some obvious non-professionals, some ambiguous. A good time to be had, nonetheless.

I booked a suite at the Wynn for 4 nights, and began blasting out messages, presenting myself honestly as a Las Vegas visitor from Southern California looking to have a good time, and hopefully develop chemistry that will result in repeat meetups and visits.

The responses were overwhelming and the last 48 have been seen a flurry of logistical preparations that would make General Eisenhower proud. But I have succeeded in keeping my schedule completely full.

I have a dinner date tonight (Thursday), and then both a lunch and dinner date for each other day, each with a different girl. Flying back home Monday morning.

I know I'm setting myself up for GPS, but I don't care. I can afford it. Will report back with details.I have from time to time perused the vegas profiles. No shortage of hot girls there. Thats a lot of dates you got booked, please post back the play by play on all of them when you recover.

[HollywoodGuy]

My nerdy actress says she misses her Daddy. Got to see her sometime this weekend. That would be date #3.

[MonkeyMonger]

https://www.seeking.com/member/cc23d7b3-0606-486b-82f4-7b808ae37c09

[HollywoodGuy]

I got cat-fished for the first time last night. I go to meet this pretty 18 year old girl and she is like 7 months pregnant. WTF. Now a bit sketched out I asked for her ID, which checked out fine. She asked if I wanted her to leave as she sensed my obvious disappointment. But I took her to the no-tel anyway. Average service but I made the best of it. I guess there is a first time for everything.

She did have a crazy story to tell. She claims she was set up by an under cover on the SD site and got busted for soliciting. I spent four hours with her and she seemed pretty genuine, (except for one thing of course). She also said her first SD was from 2 years ago. You do the math. So guys, be safe.

[Member #5794]

I got cat-fished for the first time last night. I go to meet this pretty 18 year old girl and she is like 7 months pregnant. WTF. Now a bit sketched out I asked for her ID, which checked out fine. She asked if I wanted her to leave as she sensed my obvious disappointment. But I took her to the no-tel anyway. Average service but I made the best of it. I guess there is a first time for everything.

She did have a crazy story to tell. She claims she was set up by an under cover on the SD site and got busted for soliciting. I spent four hours with her and she seemed pretty genuine, (except for one thing of course). She also said her first SD was from 2 years ago. You do the math. So guys, be safe.A festivus for the rest of us I love these non pros.

[JohnRichard]

https://www.foxnews.com/tech/google-maps-search-ends-in-divorce-after-cheating-wife-found.amp

😂.

[HollywoodGuy]

So just to update on these SB's. From left to right.

1. accepted my offer of a $ then tried to bump me to $$$ - passed.

2. newbie that went MIA. It happens.

3. the catfish. Reported on her a few days ago.

4. I flaked on her when I realized from finding her social media that she didn't look as good as her pics. She was let down.

[WHM69]

https://www.seeking.com/member/cc23d7b3-0606-486b-82f4-7b808ae37c09How many thousands of dollars does she want?

[MrBlueSea]

I have had a couple of nice conversations with her, right now she is at $$.

[HowdyDoody32]

Wow hollywood, the fact that there might be LE on those SD sites kinda disturbs me a little and makes me kinda hesitant to get into it. There any good tips on how to detect LE on the other end? Same way we deal with escorts right? Like never be explicit about stuff till you’re confident, etc.

[HollywoodGuy]

Went on a M&G with this girl that drove from victorville (she was in LA anyway). She was 5.10 and 125. Model figure. I was all ready for the FC, till I met her. The vibe was instantly bland. This girl was not the least bit flirty. I was disappointed but saved the $.4 (room included). And she looked like my x ATF, so I was dreaming maybe she was kinda like her. Not at all. (sad face).

When she moved in for the kiss goodbye I demurred. I just wanted to nip this one in the bud. I am sure she will be txting me later. Some girls don't have a clue. At least we only talked in the car (for 60 minutes). Dang is was dragging. I need to meet someone new and fun. And petite.

[HollywoodGuy]

Wow hollywood, the fact that there might be LE on those SD sites kinda disturbs me a little and makes me kinda hesitant to get into it. There any good tips on how to detect LE on the other end? Same way we deal with escorts right? Like never be explicit about stuff till youre confident, etc.Sounds like a plan.

[Fmtalk]

I have been using SA since my divorce 2 years ago and I think it is a great place to meet attractive, open minded, younger women. I have met about 6 girls total and 2 have turned into more like "dating" situations, one lived with me for a bit. I am 53 and prefer to meet women 33-40 and on that site I am a rockstar! I mean I am fit and fairly attractive and make a decent living but I have women out of my league wanting to come over! I just went back on after a while this weekend and got bombarded with messages!! And I mean let's face it regular daring costs money too, my marriage CERTAINLY cost me money! I have always been fairly generous to women I've been with so this isn't a huge stretch for me as a means to find great, younger women to date. Of course you have to be careful for flakes and con artists! And even with the long term ones you can always question whether their feelings for you are only financial based. For me I think its been both,They seem to like hanging out and appreciate some $$ help. So it's a win / win.

I am not trying to see as many girls as I can like some on here LOL (if this site was around in my 30's I would be! And there are ALL kinds on this site but the 2 girls I had a long term situation were great and we are still friends,they even brought some girlfriends over for some nights that I thought only rock stars experienced!

[HollywoodGuy]

Went on a M&G with this girl that drove from victorville (she was in LA anyway). She was 5.10 and 125. Model figure. I was all ready for the FC, till I met her. The vibe was instantly bland. This girl was not the least bit flirty. I was disappointed but saved the $.4 (room included). And she looked like my x ATF, so I was dreaming maybe she was kinda like her. Not at all. (sad face).

When she moved in for the kiss goodbye I demurred. I just wanted to nip this one in the bud. I am sure she will be txting me later. Some girls don't have a clue. At least we only talked in the car (for 60 minutes). Dang is was dragging. I need to meet someone new and fun. And petite.Model girls look good in their pics, but logistically in the FC, not as good as a petite little spinner. My x ATF was the only exception to this rule. She was like 6 feet tall, but skinny as hell, used to drive me crazy.

[HollywoodGuy]

Any exciting or interesting stories to tell. Tell them here & pictures are always welcome.

[HollywoodGuy]

Wants $ upfront to meet. No wonder she won't show her face. No good pics. Me no meet up. Asks for cash. Me no meet up. Me might have been born yesterday, but me not born last night.

https://www.seeking.com/member/37959aef-5ac0-4220-9592-7be2da87c445

[HollywoodGuy]

Wants $ upfront to meet. No wonder she won't show her face. No good pics. Me no meet up. Asks for cash. Me no meet up. Me might have been born yesterday, but me not born last night.

https://www.seeking.com/member/37959aef-5ac0-4220-9592-7be2da87c445And its funny they all say the same thing. "I have to know I can trust you first". And then there is always the cellphone bil or the plea for gas money. Guys, do not fall for this stuff.

[Boobman76]

And its funny they all say the same thing. "I have to know I can trust you first". And then there is always the cellphone bil or the plea for gas money. Guys, do not fall for this stuff.Also don't Venmo them any money before meeting. I had one 19 yo girl give me this sob story about how it was her friends birthday that night, and she had Venmo'd some guy $300 for concert tix to surprise her friend with as a gift. She tells me the guy took her money then cancelled his account, then asks me if I'll help her and, of course, she will do anything for me if I send money. I sent her back a text asking her what made her think she wouldn't do the same to me as the guy in her BS story. She laughs and says True.

I don't talk to her again until the next day and asked her how her friends birthday went, and what they did instead of the concert. She tells me they did nothing, and that her friend went to sleep early instead. I about died laughing at the thought of some 18-20 yo girl going to sleep early on her birthday night which also happened to fall on a Friday no less. I didn't tell her that in text, but for fun I asked her if she'd like me to Venmo her the money. She, naturally, said yes. I told her not before we meetup for some fun, and she then asks if I will send her half of it now, and then she will collect the other half in person. I texted her back once more with an LOL and asked if that ever works.

Some of these girls come up with such creative BS it amusing, but also insulting that they think a guy will fall for any of it. As a rule: Always give in person. Never Venmo, paypal, or whatever it may be unless you don't ever want to see that money again. Always give in person. Insist on it.

[HollywoodGuy]

Also don't Venmo them any money before meeting. I had one 19 yo girl give me this sob story about how it was her friends birthday that night, and she had Venmo'd some guy $300 for concert tix to surprise her friend with as a gift. She tells me the guy took her money then cancelled his account, then asks me if I'll help her and, of course, she will do anything for me if I send money. I sent her back a text asking her what made her think she wouldn't do the same to me as the guy in her BS story. She laughs and says True.

I don't talk to her again until the next day and asked her how her friends birthday went, and what they did instead of the concert. She tells me they did nothing, and that her friend went to sleep early instead. I about died laughing at the thought of some 18-20 yo girl going to sleep early on her birthday night which also happened to fall on a Friday no less. I didn't tell her that in text, but for fun I asked her if she'd like me to Venmo her the money. She, naturally, said yes. I told her not before we meetup for some fun, and she then asks if I will send her half of it now, and then she will collect the other half in person. I texted her back once more with an LOL and asked if that ever works.

Some of these girls come up with such creative BS it amusing, but also insulting that they think a guy will fall for any of it. As a rule: Always give in person. Never Venmo, paypal, or whatever it may be unless you don't ever want to see that money again. Always give in person. Insist on it.There are exceptions to every rule. But far too few to break this one. I am sure we all have one story of a girl we advanced money to that we then did do the M&G or even the Deed. But it's just not worth it. There are too many real opportunities to meet real girls, that really do want to have fun.

[HollywoodGuy]

https://www.seeking.com/member/e28f09bb-197b-4d1f-b150-09004860626c

ME.
My standard intro letter.

HER.
I'm going to cut to the chase. I want sex tonight and I want it from you.

ME.
My standard $ offer.

HER.
Radio silence.

Another overpriced UTR. To you new guys... don't get too excited when this stuff happens.
Be patient and wait to get what you're really looking for.

[HollywoodGuy]

When the prissy little white girls and GPS latinas hit me up, I would love to just respond with the message below.

=====

Hi Love. If you hit me up because you have some serious Daddy issues you need to work out in the bedroom... you came to the right place.

If you hmu thinking you were going to be able to pay your rent doing it... you came to the wrong place.

I am only here to be a classy girls dirty little secret. You will do the kinky things with me your big spending boring daddy will never think of (and look at you weird if you suggest it). And none of this may be of any interest to you. But no problem, go find your vanilla daddy to take you to the beverly center, then mastros for dinner, and then think some happy thoughts later while he gives you the best 20 minutes he's capable of before dozing off to sleep.

But if you really want to get nasty, then get back to me. Oh, and BTW your allowance for being a good little girl is $100 a date. So go ahead and block me, or lets make a time to meet at a cheap motel, so you can experience all the things you've only fantasized about or seen on the internet.

Because I'll be the one night stand you won't soon forget.

=====

The only reason I don't send this, is because I am sure they are the ones that get everyone kicked off the site.

[FarFarAway]

https://www.seeking.com/member/e28f09bb-197b-4d1f-b150-09004860626c

ME.
My standard intro letter.

HER.
I'm going to cut to the chase. I want sex tonight and I want it from you.

ME.
My standard $ offer.

HER.
Radio silence.

Another overpriced UTR. To you new guys... don't get too excited when this stuff happens.
Be patient and wait to get what you're really looking for.You surprise me you went for her. She's been on the site 2 years. I thought you liked fresh ones. .

[Boobman76]

Had made arrangements to meet up with this little lady today in the FC for $. 5, but when she texted me to confirm we were still on she was now asking for $$. Told her we agreed to the $. 5, but she said she wouldn't budge. I normally do $$ anyway so that wasn't the issue, I just didn't like the upsell and her trying to alter the deal. No meet happened. I sometimes wonder if they think it's my loss that I walked away, but I feel like I saved the $. 5 and she gave it up over. 5. I guess she wasn't needing the $. 5 all that badly. Oh well. On to the next.

https://www.seeking.com/member/ee43f04d-4ebf-4b54-a190-d2a4dedc52dd

[HollywoodGuy]

You surprise me you went for her. She's been on the site 2 years. I thought you liked fresh ones. .I'll offer any petite semi attractive girl a $. Nothing to lose. Fresh is best, but I,m open minded.

[HollywoodGuy]

Had made arrangements to meet up with this little lady today in the FC for $. 5, but when she texted me to confirm we were still on she was now asking for $$. Told her we agreed to the $. 5, but she said she wouldn't budge. I normally do $$ anyway so that wasn't the issue, I just didn't like the upsell and her trying to alter the deal. No meet happened. I sometimes wonder if they think it's my loss that I walked away, but I feel like I saved the $. 5 and she gave it up over. 5. I guess she wasn't needing the $. 5 all that badly. Oh well. On to the next.

https://www.seeking.com/member/ee43f04d-4ebf-4b54-a190-d2a4dedc52ddYeah, I was supposed to meet this little latina yesterday, and she said something about she is with her GF and I need take her home first because they are afraid to walk in their area at nite. I tell her I want to keep things simple. Just walk the girl home, and since its such a bad area, afterward I will uber you to my area. She says that sounds sketchy to her. I tell her the only thing sketchy is her hood and I don't want to go there. Never heard back from her. I say when its not easy, simple and drama free, just move on.

[Boobman76]

This one wants a single K, and her body has a solid argument for it. Looks worth it to me, but damn, I just can't give that much to one girl per meet. I can, but I just don't want to and it would severely lessen the girls I could afford meet haha. I even told her I usually do $$ per meet (I don't) to see if she'd bite, but she wouldn't go for it. I ought to set a single K aside every year for a once-a-year thing where I can meet up with girls that look like this. Got to be good to yourself and have a nice treat now and then.

https://www.seeking.com/member/e49e9e07-72b9-433f-b245-d3c558885fb3

[FrenchLuvah]

How many thousands of dollars does she want?Just one. I told her that was more than I was willing. We'll see.

[HollywoodGuy]

This one wants a single K, and her body has a solid argument for it. Looks worth it to me, but damn, I just can't give that much to one girl per meet. I can, but I just don't want to and it would severely lessen the girls I could afford meet haha. I even told her I usually do $$ per meet (I don't) to see if she'd bite, but she wouldn't go for it. I ought to set a single K aside every year for a once-a-year thing where I can meet up with girls that look like this. Got to be good to yourself and have a nice treat now and then.

https://www.seeking.com/member/e49e9e07-72b9-433f-b245-d3c558885fb3Just MHO but there are definitely other girls on the site as good as her for $$.

[Boobman76]

Just MHO but there are definitely other girls on the site as good as her for $$.I offered her 4 x $, but for some reason when I submitted that review it only shows 2 x $, and I can't edit it to show correctly.

[HollywoodGuy]

I offered her 4 x $, but for some reason when I submitted that review it only shows 2 x $, and I can't edit it to show correctly.I get that a girl asking for 1k would make her happy, but I have to figure that they don't really care about sex too much, because at those rates they are not going to get much action. While I may not pay the $$ and $$$ rates, at least those girls are looking for sex a few times a week. Meaning they like what they do. At those much higher rates they obviously don't.

[HollywoodGuy]

Yeah, I was supposed to meet this little latina yesterday, and she said something about she is with her GF and I need take her home first because they are afraid to walk in their area at nite. I tell her I want to keep things simple. Just walk the girl home, and since its such a bad area, afterward I will uber you to my area. She says that sounds sketchy to her. I tell her the only thing sketchy is her hood and I don't want to go there. Never heard back from her. I say when its not easy, simple and drama free, just move on.Well what do you know. The little latina hits me up yesterday all apologetic and wants to know if I will see her. So we make up and agree to have her uber over to my area so I can check her out on my turf, before making a final decision. This girl is not a looker, but I just had a funny feeling about her. So anyway she takes the uber and we meet and talk in the car. She is a soft butch lesbian chick from the barrio. We go to the no-tel and actually have an amazing time. What she lacked in looks she more than made up for in the FC. Her oral skills were first rate (minimum a 9 out of 10). And she made love (and made out with me) as if I were her Daddy. I am 100% convinced I was her first time. A real NP (now an SB).

I left totally satisfied. Went home, snuggled up to my GF and slept like a baby.

[Member #5794]

Well what do you know. The little latina hits me up yesterday all apologetic and wants to know if I will see her. So we make up and agree to have her uber over to my area so I can check her out on my turf, before making a final decision. This girl is not a looker, but I just had a funny feeling about her. So anyway she takes the uber and we meet and talk in the car. She is a soft butch lesbian chick from the barrio. We go to the no-tel and actually have an amazing time. What she lacked in looks she more than made up for in the FC. Her oral skills were first rate (minimum a 9 out of 10). And she made love to me as if I was her Daddy. I am 100% convinced I was her first time. A real NP (now an SB). I left totally satisfied, went home, took a shower, snuggled up to my GF and slept like a baby.Tell tale signs that you have scooped up a girl who never plays for pay:

1. she flakes out on you and then calls you back. I remember when I used to date, when a girl flaked on me she always called me back the next day.

2. she is willing to take an uber over to your house for her first time. When I used to date, I used to have girls take a taxi over to my place and they were totally cool with it.

3. she is down to hang out at the best western on franklin or some other such shithole. I know most civilian girls are thrilled to hang out at a motel.

4. she has good oral skills.

5. she treats you like her daddy!

Another non pro in the rough. Do you know if she has ads up on silxa?

[HollywoodGuy]

Sitting here at John Wayne airport, waiting to catch my flight to Vegas.

Last weekend I checked SA girls in Vegas and found dozens upon dozens of young lovelies who imply that short-term meetups are preferred and out-of-towners are welcome. Some obvious professionals, some obvious non-professionals, some ambiguous. A good time to be had, nonetheless.

I booked a suite at the Wynn for 4 nights, and began blasting out messages, presenting myself honestly as a Las Vegas visitor from Southern California looking to have a good time, and hopefully develop chemistry that will result in repeat meetups and visits.

The responses were overwhelming and the last 48 have been seen a flurry of logistical preparations that would make General Eisenhower proud. But I have succeeded in keeping my schedule completely full.

I have a dinner date tonight (Thursday), and then both a lunch and dinner date for each other day, each with a different girl. Flying back home Monday morning.

I know I'm setting myself up for GPS, but I don't care. I can afford it. Will report back with details.So where is the follow up report? Good, bad or ugly. Lets hear it.

[HollywoodGuy]

Tell tale signs that you have scooped up a girl who never plays for pay:

1. she flakes out on you and then calls you back. I remember when I used to date, when a girl flaked on me she always called me back the next day.

2. she is willing to take an uber over to your house for her first time. When I used to date, I used to have girls take a taxi over to my place and they were totally cool with it.

3. she is down to hang out at the best western on franklin or some other such shithole. I know most civilian girls are thrilled to hang out at a motel.

4. she has good oral skills.

5. she treats you like her daddy!

Another non pro in the rough. Do you know if she has ads up on silxa?I detect a bit of sarcasm (lol) . But lets be real, every girl has a first time. Its not my goal to search for first timers, but they are out there and I have had a few. But its never been my main objective. My current GF was a first timer for sure (practically a virgin). And I have had one real virgin since I been in the bowl. But just to clarify a little.

1 - her rent was due the next day at 11 am. She was short even after the date and tried to get me to see her again at 9 am this morning (a first). I passed.

2 - met at a coffee shop 2 blocks from my house.

3 - she is from the hood. And any non-cockroach infested room would be better then the one she lives in.

4 - just my good luck, she went above and beyond what most UTR's are willing to do, about equal to my not so new little girl or any x long term regulars.

5 - there is a difference between a girl doing what you ask (which is enough for me), and one that acts like a high school girl after a couple of drinks in the back seat of your car. She was the latter.

There is a fine line between being a good actress (especially in this town) and being the genuine article. I could list a few other tells that convinced me she was for real. But I don't get into the long drawn out dissertations to prove a point that some others do on some other threads. Either way I am happy to live in a world of suspended disbelief.

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On another note. My not so new little girl just told me I am her first real BF and that she is madly in love with me. We have been seeing each other for about 5 months. I have been telling her I feel the same, and she is a very chill sweet little girl that has given me better sex than my GF ever has. But I do love my GF and have been with her for 5 years now off and on. Hopefully she will move out soon as her career (of sorts) does seem to be picking up speed. Or if mine did I would move her out. But I can't afford that today.

[HollywoodGuy]

I hide girls profiles all the time on SA (seeking). But where is the link to go see all these hidden girls? There isn't one on the site.

https://www.seeking.com/settings/hidden-members

[Beast6676]

There are girls out there that are just as willing to be in the situations we want them to be in. It's really a matter of searching, as HollywoodGuy mentions, find your type. It makes the in person interactions that much more genuine which puts the lady at ease. Some of these girls don't have the best self-esteem and truly enjoy the attention. Shame really.

Had a 20 year just drive out to my job for an initial meeting, flaked last night but was up for it tonight. So worth it. I'm an oral aficionado. Told her what the going rate was, $, and she countered with half. Full effort though. Going to set something up with her again this week most likely.

I feel like a real 49 er with this gold mine that is Seeking. There's more than enough for us here.

[HollywoodGuy]

There's more than enough for us here.About 10 lifetimes worth.

[Large Ess]

The most recent SB is an18 year old with a beautiful champagne breasts and a killer ass She has told me that she loves sex and has it every other day. But what she thinks of sex is FC, which is fine, but she isn't into anything else. Not into oral, giving or receiving. She'll do it, but we all know the difference, when someone loves something. The FC is good but I like the build up. We have met twice and the second time the fun just wasn't there. I had mention her being a bit neutral the first time, just not into it. The second time was much more pronounced. She definitely is available schedule-wise and texted me again this week. I thought I would see what would happen if I said sure we could meet up but it would have to be just for fun. That changed her mind, not surprisingly and no hard feelings on my end, as I am pretty certain I am moving on.

[HollywoodGuy]

find your type. It makes the in person interactions that much more genuine which puts the lady at ease. I had two hits over the weekend. Number and age 22 is exactly my type and we share a common fetish. So it was a no brainer. Number and age 18 lives a light year away but she may take the train as she is the curious type. Admittedly if you are the kinky type its a lot easier to connect with like minded girls. But even if you are the vanilla type you still have some preferences, let the ladies know what they are. Its always best to connect on a real level.

[HollywoodGuy]

I had two hits over the weekend. Number and age 22 is exactly my type and we share a common fetish. So it was a no brainer. Number and age 18 lives a light year away but she may take the train as she is the curious type. Admittedly if you are the kinky type its a lot easier to connect with like minded girls. But even if you are the vanilla type you still have some preferences, let the ladies know what they are. Its always best to connect on a real level.Supposed to hit the no-tel this week with number 22 from the last post. She wants to get her hair and nails done before we meet (at her expense of course). Number 18 already went MIA. But when they are 18 you goota expect that to happen more often than not.

[The Ass Man]

How many thousands of dollars does she want?1 k and if it's within your budget she's a lot of fun. All day and all night. She hosts as well.

[HollywoodGuy]

I am always saying that latinas don't like me. Maybe I was just aiming too high on the latina princess ladder. This one seems very excited to meet. Coed with a full time job. Petite 5.2 , but I guess by latina or asian standards this is a lot more normal. I usually try to get at least 2-3 times as many girls to say yes than I could ever possibly meet. And then work it out from there. Because they flake, I change my mind, too far away, scheduling issues, etc. There is safety in numbers.

Bu this one is only 10 minutes from me. Like a $5 uber pool.

[FarFarAway]

This one wants a single K, and her body has a solid argument for it. Looks worth it to me, but damn, I just can't give that much to one girl per meet. I can, but I just don't want to and it would severely lessen the girls I could afford meet haha. I even told her I usually do $$ per meet (I don't) to see if she'd bite, but she wouldn't go for it. I ought to set a single K aside every year for a once-a-year thing where I can meet up with girls that look like this. Got to be good to yourself and have a nice treat now and then.

https://www.seeking.com/member/e49e9e07-72b9-433f-b245-d3c558885fb3I've seen that profile before, she's not a big attraction for me, but I understand. However, I'd say that you could try her at the 4-500 level, she might bite. I also NEVER negotiate sugar online, when you do that you are shooting yourself in the foot. Depending on how nice you are, and how attracted she is, she might be willing to do you. Somewhat like strippers, yeah, they can command a lot, but get hit on so much, they know every cheesy line.

You are also fishing in the same pond as me. PM me and we can maybe compare notes.

[FarFarAway]

HG, you want some experience reports? OK, I have had a SB who is a volleyball player, so you can guess the body type. Hard muscled and very tall. I am taller, so that's fine. She has one of the looser cooches I have experienced, and there is something about her anatomy that seems to trap air inside. So, at times, when she walks around, or moves on the bed, it emits 'pussy farts'. Not offensive, of course, and offers no pluses or minuses sexually that I have observed, just rare.

[HollywoodGuy]

The upside to paying a $ a date... is you are paying a $ a date. The down side is... you do get flaked on more. Happened to me tonite.

[Boobman76]

I've seen that profile before, she's not a big attraction for me, but I understand. However, I'd say that you could try her at the 4-500 level, she might bite. I also NEVER negotiate sugar online, when you do that you are shooting yourself in the foot. Depending on how nice you are, and how attracted she is, she might be willing to do you. Somewhat like strippers, yeah, they can command a lot, but get hit on so much, they know every cheesy line.

You are also fishing in the same pond as me. PM me and we can maybe compare notes.I've since found her Instagram and some online pics, and she wasn't as pretty as I'd imagined her to be for 1 K, but she is still a knockout. I wasn't as interested though afterwards. I've also stopped negotiating online. It makes for a good opportunity to get their number and negotiate through text instead, but also to save the number to reveal their Instagram / Snap / FB account if they possess one. I am in OC, but the OC Sugar Baby thread is so dead I post in here.

[Yoyo8899]

All the recent traffic & story-telling in the thread has inspired me to share my own SA experience.

I've been on the site for nearly a year.

I'm married, but had been with my wife for over 10 years prior to tying the knot.

She gave me a hall pass as an anniversary gift.

Initially used it on HX, but SA is better for what I'm seeking.

It expires at the end of this year though so my time is coming to an end.

I've met with all types over the last year.

Will do a write-up sharing what's worked for me & my various experiences, and post here in a few days.I'm in a similar boat. Had signed up for SA a couple years back but had never used it. Just filled out my profile and paid for premium and now my inbox is filling up. Can't tell who is serious and who's not.

Also married and have a hall pass. So very curious how your adventures are. Will report back on mine too once I have any to share.

[HollywoodGuy]

This weeks POTS.

1 - latina coed. Super friendly and excited. Deleted her profile the moment she connected with me. Was willing to go straight to the FC but she is on her cycle. So we will M&G this week first just to keep it fresh.

2 - eager but cautious. Asked for money up front but has since backed down off that. Wants to M&G first, but willing to go to the FC directly after if we connect.

3 - another cautious latina. Wants to M&G first. Says its her first time.

4 - flaked on our first date at the FC. Claims she did her hair and nails (the color I suggested) just to meet me.

[BigBadNut]

This weeks POTS.

1 - latina coed. Super friendly and excited. Deleted her profile the moment she connected with me. Was willing to go straight to the FC but she is on her cycle. So we will M&G this week first just to keep it fresh.

2 - eager but cautious. Asked for money up front but has since backed down off that. Wants to M&G first, but willing to go to the FC directly after if we connect.

3 - another cautious latina. Wants to M&G first. Says its her first time.

4 - flaked on our first date at the FC. Claims she did her hair and nails (the color I suggested) just to meet me.Let us know and please take pics.

[Mile22]

I'm in a similar boat. Had signed up for SA a couple years back but had never used it. Just filled out my profile and paid for premium and now my inbox is filling up. Can't tell who is serious and who's not.

Also married and have a hall pass. So very curious how your adventures are. Will report back on mine too once I have any to share.My experiences have varied wildly over the past year I've been on the site. As someone in a similar situation to myself, the best tip I can give you is to be straightforward about your marital situation & your pass.

You'll find that the women appreciate and respect the honesty. It's also a HUGE turn on for them. It implies that you treat your wife so well, are still so desired by her, and are so invested in her happiness, that she is giving you permission to have some outside fun because she wants you happy too.

These girls like knowing that their SD (or potential SD) doesn't have to sneak around to get what he wants. And on a biological level, women are programmed to seek out "desirable" men, so you can definitely use that in your favor.

In my experience on SA, you can definitely find some EXTREMELY attractive women (easily on par with, and definitely better than most hobbying sites. Even the high-end ones). I urge each of you. DON'T let a woman's looks intimidate you from approaching her. If you play your cards right, you can set something up on YOUR terms. Remember -- YOU have the sugar. YOU are the catch, not her.

But remember, the assumption that most POTs have is that (most) men have a bankroll, so you can't always expect to throw money at these women and get whatever you want. You definitely shouldn't jump into negotiating an allowance early or over a keyboard. Always do it in person whenever possible, and don't be afraid to stand your ground. In my experience, POTs are much bolder & will ask for much more if you allow negotiations to transpire via text.

Literally anybody can win on SA. You just have to determine what your unfair advantage is, and play strongly to it at all times. There is an element of finesse. If you don't have it yet, you can learn thru experience. For example, my personal advantages are my youth, physicality, and my hall pass (a hot wife who gives me freedom to do WTF I want. Because I've earned it).

I've met a variety of women. Mostly black or white, with a few latinas and one asian mixed in. Ages have ranged from 20 all the way up to mid-40's.

While it is true that the vast majority are looking for some financial benefit, that's not 100% of the equation. A large number of these women are also deprived in other areas. Emotional / mental support, good conversation, nice dates, and, of course, mind-blowing sex.

The truth is that the more physically attractive, charming, etc. That you are, the less the money really matters. Especially over time. In my case, many arrangements that started out with an allowance progressed such that the allowance was either significantly reduced, or eliminated altogether.

Developed some GREAT relations with the girls I've had the pleasure of seeing. I have a pretty heavy rotation to be honest. Although my pass is going to be up soon here I can definitely see myself continuing on with a few of them.

Will detail my more interesting experiences in the following post.

[Mile22]

Here is my HOF.

I've met others once or twice as well, but these are the one's that I made a concerted effort to see repeatedly & consistently.

The Black Girls:

1. This one is the very first girl I met on the site. We didn't even M&G, she was (supposedly) D-deprived, "sick of being hit on by old gray men," & eager to come over. She's a young mom. Super chill, eager to please. Super cute face, slim waist, and a biiiiiiiiiig behind. We hit it off. She was very easy to click with personality-wise. We would probably maintain a friendship even if we stopped fucking. We've been seeing each other consistently for over a year, and I'll probably continue after my pass expires. She has a real freak streak & makes herself available whenever I call her. Loves public sex. I can now say I've gotten my noodle wet in some VERY risky & random places thanks to her. Real keeper.

2. Another one of my faves. I was lucky enough to stumble across her profile on her first night on the site. She literally deleted her profile immediately after we met for the first time. She's super thick with a gorgeous face & sweet personality. She never asked for a cent, just wanted me to teach her some things in the bedroom LOL. Turns out her sex drive is just as high as mine is. At one point she had me so worn out I had to take a break from her for a couple of weeks. We've actually developed a friendship over time. Definitely a keeper.

3. This last one of note is a real gem. Mid 30's MILF. Gorgeous with a stacked body. She used to be a video model. Had some funny stories about Hollywood-folk. She has a decent career now, but needs help with post-grad tuition. $$ 5/ meet. Shit was real sweet for a while, and I cut off the other girls I was seeing at the time just to see her. All good things must come to an end though. After I got married, she wanted to up the allowance. AND she picked up a boyfriend. Way too much going on there so I had to cut her off out of principle. We still chat here & there. She's trying hard to keep the door open, & has asked for the D (allowance-free) a number of times, but she knows I won't see her as long as the BF is around.

The White Girls:

1. I've been seeing her for about a year. She was super local, and at first I was giving her $$/ meet and seeing her twice a week. Perfect hourglass figure. Great California boobs, flat stomach, wide hips, and some decent meat on the cheeks. Our first session was unreal. Literally left me speechless. 3 back to back to back rounds. And they're still pretty epic today. The word "no" isn't in her vocabulary. She's got a great personality too. Very laid back and easy to talk to. However, she recently got a great job that took her about an hour's drive away. She makes herself available whenever I want to see her, so I still see her once a week. The great thing is she enjoys the time we spend together so much that she told me to stop giving her an allowance -- she's happy with the sex and time spent.

2. The other white girl I've been seeing for about 3 months. Super cute, nerdy and built kinda like a volleyball player. Tall, thick athletic legs, and epic milk-makers. Saw her weekly at the outset, #meet, but she's gotten busy with school and work, so it's now just about every other week. Sex is also great. She's admittedly addic (k) ted LOL. She's setting up a Halloween threesome for us with another hottie (who has no idea about our arrangement LOL) as well.

3. My little Swede. Been seeing her about 9 months, initially 3-4 times a month at $$meet. Now reduced to $. 5/ meet (you'll understand why at the end of the blurb). At first she gave some push-back on some of my kinks but since then she's opened up a bit since then & we've explored a lot more. There was a period of about 2 months where I hadn't seen her due to conflicting schedules and a vacation back home. During that time she got knocked up (not by me) and had it taken care of maybe 2 weeks after we reconnected. Which annoyed me a bit. She always insisted on a rubber with me, but clearly had someone else dumping loads in her LOL. I've seen her a couple of times since then but have backed off for the most part. She's too much fun to completely walk away from though, and asks for such a comparatively small amount now that the deal is too sweet.

4. This one could go down as either white or latina. She's originally from Sweden, but she's half Spanish / Chilean. She will be the very last addition to the team haha. She's in her mid-20's but has had a lot of work done on her body. She legitimately could have introduced herself as a long-lost Kardashian and I would've believed her. Her ass looked SUPER ripe in photos, and in some sick twist of fate it looks EVEN BETTER in person. She's asking for $2 k / mo, and I can see her whenever I want as much as I want. Normally I'd tell her to fuck off, but I'll never have a chance to add a girl this bad to the roster ever again. So fuck it! YOLO. Time is on her side. We were supposed to get to it on Tuesday, but she hadn't been tested yet. She went for that & to get on BC today, so we will be starting this weekend. I'll see how the month goes with her & decide then whether I want to continue.

Latinas.

1. The first latina I met on the site is a lesbian! And lives in with her girlfriend. She's never asked for an allowance. The thrill of having something on the side is enough for her. She's thick and gorgeous. Juicy ass & great gazongas to boot, and has one of the tightest puss I've ever been in. She's a ton of fun but rarely available because of her living situation. I've been to her place a few times while her gf is at work. The other times I Lyfted her to my place. She wants a 3 some with my wife & I, but my wife would never agree hahahaha. Unfortunately she has zero bi-curiosity. Anyway, fingers crossed I get to see her again before my time's up LOL.

2. My other latina is a sweetheart. She's fairly young, with 2 kids. Usually there are signs of that on the body, but looking at her you'd have no idea. She's super cute, and petite, but has hands down the best ass I've ever seen on a girl her size. Slim waist, flat stomach, but a juicy bubble. Perfect size & shape and still soft to the touch. She's wild in the sack too. She's the first girl to ask me to slap her & spit on her. Shit tripped me out! She's a good conversationalist as well. The drawback with her is her living / transpo situation. She doesn't have her own place, or a car, so I have to Uber her. She usually has a sob story, or has to leave town abruptly for a couple of weeks every so often too. I enjoy seeing her though, and wouldn't mind keeping her around after my pass is done. Usually $. 5/ meet, but the last couple of times have been $.

3. Latina #3 is legitimately an Instagram model. One of those with 200 k+ followers. Gorgeous, picture perfect body, etc. She was originally asking for $1 k / meet. After telling her to go fist herself, she went down to $$ 5 LOL. Much better. She's fun, but she's a long drive away so I'm lucky if I can see her once a week. She always makes herself available for me when I call though. The sessions are awesome, and she (along with Black Girl #1) was the easiest by far to click with personality-wise. Apparently she hated the site. Her last SD was old & overweight, and she was just about ready to give it up until she stumbled across me--who happens to be her type. After me she deleted her profile. Nowadays I don't really give her an allowance, just help her with a bill here or there, give her guidance with her biz, and take her on dates when I have time.

The Asian.

The one asian girl I've met is a real keeper. She immigrated her to finish her education. But now that she's done she doesn't want to go back (go figure LOL). We agreed on $$meet initially, but she recently agreed to see me for less. Awesome personality & killer sense of humor too. She's pretty stacked. She works out regularly so her thighs and ass are really developed. And a big time freak! She introduced me to bondage & choking. She loves butt stuff too.

Everything above may make it sound like SA is all sunshine & rainbows. DEFINITELY NOT! I've had to sift thru the hordes of fakes & scammers, sat thru countless failed M&Gs, and even dealt with my share of crazy POTs and SBs.

I'll share the scammers, crazies & horror stories in a separate post some time soon!

[Boobman76]

I don't want to quote them to save room, but those last two posts you made were solid and packed with some excellent tips and good stories.

[HollywoodGuy]

the best tip I can give you is to be straightforward about your marital situation & your pass.

You'll find that the women appreciate and respect the honesty. It's also a HUGE turn on for them. It implies that you treat your wife so well, are still so desired by her, and are so invested in her happiness, that she is giving you permission to have some outside fun because she wants you happy too.

These girls like knowing that their SD (or potential SD) doesn't have to sneak around to get what he wants. And on a biological level, women are programmed to seek out "desirable" men, so you can definitely use that in your favor.I am not married but I do have a GF. I tell every girl I meet my situation. And many times show them her picture. (she is a hot model). The chance that any of them is better looking is slim to none. I think they feel pretty much what you related. If they are UTR's it means nothing, but if they are SB's. They want some of what she's getting. Also it doesn't come up too much anymore, but there was a time I leveraged my own daughter as well. She was a stereotypical spoiled Hollywood princess. When girls would see all the shit I gave her and how close we were they knew I was a good Daddy. They used to say "please adopt me" lol.

[HollywoodGuy]

Let us know and please take pics.So I M&G'ed girl #1 in post 3361. This girl is what a lot of guys hope to get on SA. I messaged her the day after she first posted her profile. She started acting as if we were in an arrangement before I even met her. She deleted her profile as soon as we set the M&G. I went to see her tonite. Turns out she is a half mexican half pinay coed with a job and lives in a good area. Something just clicked in her brain that its finally time to break out of her shell and I am the appointed / annointed shell breaker.

Met her at a starbucks and listened to her story. Virgin till 19, then one small dicked angry BF that treated her like crap for a year and then dumped her. Takes her two years to get her confidence back. Then suddenly decides she wants kinky, crazy out of the box sex with an older guy leading the way. She gets off her cycle Saturday, so we are meeting Sunday night for lesson one, in what every little girl needs to know to make daddy happy. So technically I will be her second guy ever. A real NP, soon to be an SB.

[Mile22]

So I M&G'ed girl #1 in post 3361. This girl is what a lot of guys hope to get on SA. I messaged her the day after she first posted her profile. She started acting as if we were in an arrangement before I even met her. She deleted her profile as soon as we set the M&G. I went to see her tonite. Turns out she is a half mexican half pinay coed with a job and lives in a good area. Something just clicked in her brain that its finally time to break out of her shell and I am the appointed / annointed shell breaker.

Met her at a starbucks and listened to her story. Virgin till 19, then one small dicked angry BF that treated her like crap for a year and then dumped her. Takes her two years to get her confidence back. Then suddenly decides she wants kinky, crazy out of the box sex with an older guy leading the way. She gets off her cycle Saturday, so we are meeting Sunday night for lesson one, in what every little girl needs to know to make daddy happy. So technically I will be her second guy ever. A real NP, soon to be an SB.Dude!

This is almost exactly what happened with Black Girl #2!

Just tack on a few years. And she lost her virginity during a limp-dicked one-night stand haha.

Crazy.

[HollywoodGuy]

This weekend has not turned out like I expected. I blanked on Friday and sat night. But whenever that happens I prospect and use the down time to txt with my POTS. I got a half dozen I am stayin in the loop with, only one appears to be a UTR. They're all pretty cute and tiny the way I like them. Tomorrow night is my first date with the mixed coed I met a couple of days ago. Hope you all had a better weekend than me so far.

[HollywoodGuy]

This weekend has not turned out like I expected. I blanked on Friday and sat night. But whenever that happens I prospect and use the down time to txt with my POTS. I got a half dozen I am stayin in the loop with, only one appears to be a UTR. They're all pretty cute and tiny the way I like them. Tomorrow night is my first date with the mixed coed I met a couple of days ago. Hope you all had a better weekend than me so far.Total sucky weekend. No new pussy at all. It's a test from god. But I will prevail. Next year I am going to crawl out of my mess. Make enough to support my habit and go back to being single. Scheduling around the GF is a real pain. I totally get the whole SO thing. Now I know why I haven't had one in forever. Even with the so-called hall pass, its not enough. Without the freedom to take advantage of spontaneous random events, half the fun (or more) goes out of it. At least for me.

And I passed up two sure things (UTR's, but fresh ones) to wait on these flakey SB's. It's totally this scheduling thing. I'm sick of it and my GF knows it.

[RogerOver]

Total sucky weekend. No new pussy at all. It's a test from god. But I will prevail. Next year I am going to crawl out of my mess. Make enough to support my habit and go back to being single. Scheduling around the GF is a real pain. I totally get the whole SO thing. Now I know why I haven't had one in forever. Even with the so-called hall pass, its not enough. Without the freedom to take advantage of spontaneous random events, half the fun (or more) goes out of it. At least for me.

And I passed up two sure things (UTR's, but fresh ones) to wait on these flakey SB's. It's totally this scheduling thing. I'm sick of it and my GF knows it.Why have a GF? I never really get that part, since the logical outcome of having a SO is the next phase -- contractually obligated. LOL.

[HollywoodGuy]

Why have a GF? I never really get that part, since the logical outcome of having a SO is the next phase -- contractually obligated. LOL.I wasnt planning on it. I been on and off with this girl for 5 years. I should clarify. I have had GF's. But not ones that live with me. She is the first in 10 years. I was just going to help her get back on her feet for a few months. Now been a year. And marriage. No chance of that. Unless they can front for my entire lifestyle. Most 20 year olds don't have that kind of dough.

[HollywoodGuy]

This girl won't even write back to me and she has no clue what my offer is. I guess I am too old for her. But I get that a lot.

https://www.seeking.com/member/1319e310-8bff-451d-9bb5-a189f3838f42

[HollywoodGuy]

I been letting some awesome $$ girls slip through my hands. At that price they are scrumptious. Next year, next year. Its my new mantra.

[HollywoodGuy]

Supposed to do a nooner today with this 18 - 5.2 hottie.

[HollywoodGuy]

Supposed to do a nooner today with this 18 - 5.2 hottie.She showed up on time, drove here in her own car, and took care of me for a solid 50 minutes. Perfect first date.

[RogerOver]

She showed up on time, drove here in her own car, and took care of me for a solid 50 minutes. Perfect first date.That IS a solid performance for a young chick on a first encounter.

[HollywoodGuy]

That IS a solid performance for a young chick on a first encounter.I was super happy. So nice to find a girl with a car, and a job, and living on her own, and some skills, and personality, and a body with a face almost to match. And that lives close enough. I will be seeing her again. She was no 10... if my not so new little girl (who is MIA) is a 10 she was a 7 (and could be a 9 with proper training). Not bad overall. Good kissing skills, FIA, kinky daddy talk. But enough of her. Going to test drive a real amateur 20 coed tonite at the no-tel. OMG this is going to be fun. The girl today was a practical (but loving) gal verging on UTR, but with GFE skills. But the girl tonite is basically going to be star struck for lack of a better word.

[HollywoodGuy]

Whatever few Dom skills I have weren't enough to talk this girl down below $$. Maybe somebody would TOFTT? Awesome body if you like petites.

https://www.seeking.com/member/f5c98ec1-8cf1-4c65-8591-43fc48470c80

[HollywoodGuy]

Here is a true waif, but also stuck at $$.

https://www.seeking.com/member/1a4aef20-1755-4010-9394-60e837dc9da3

[HollywoodGuy]

Totally out of my reach. $$$ Has the body to match.

https://www.seeking.com/member/c61a128f-965f-444c-901e-94bd82a58d79

[HollywoodGuy]

So I went and saw my not so little, not totally (but pretty close to it) amateur coed. She was a real beauty, but... a bbw. I wish I had a pic. She was extremely feminine and proportionate and just a very pretty girl. She must have spent about 2 hours getting ready as she was groomed immaculately, smelled and looked amazing (like she was going on a high end dinner date). The moment she got in my car I kissed her and knew immediately her mouth was something special.

So when we got to the no-tel I just had her work my jimmy with that perfect mouth of hers for about 30+ minutes. I had her hands and mouth in continuous motion on my dick, balls and ass. And as much fun as I had earlier in the day (with the very repeatable 18 y o), my orgasm was weak. So I had this girl aggressively work me over. She took direction very well, and I came to find out she was an actress (so no surprise there). In the end I sprayed a nice load all over her tits, tummy and legs. She was super happy, as girls always are when you unload a big one.

Drove her back to her apartment in Hollywood, went around the corner, got a double double and slowly cruised home, burger and shake in hand. The perfect end to a perfect day. Two new girls, two good experiences.

And I really think she may have liked me enough to take a discounted rate? (maybe .6) if I see her again. Her kissing was awesome, and for me that is always the best aphrodisiac. Either way I think I am good for one more round tomorrow morning. Not sure who to pull that off with or even if I will, but I would just like to get it all out of my system.

[Bomer]

My nerdy actress says she misses her Daddy. Got to see her sometime this weekend. That would be date #3.This girl looks great. Is she from SA?

[HollywoodGuy]

This girl looks great. Is she from SA?Every girl I post about on here is from SA.

[BigBadNut]

Every girl I post about on here is from SA.I love the posts HG, wish I was on SA to see the listings. Too much to hassle with!

[HollywoodGuy]

Sitting here at John Wayne airport, waiting to catch my flight to Vegas.

Last weekend I checked SA girls in Vegas and found dozens upon dozens of young lovelies who imply that short-term meetups are preferred and out-of-towners are welcome. Some obvious professionals, some obvious non-professionals, some ambiguous. A good time to be had, nonetheless.

I booked a suite at the Wynn for 4 nights, and began blasting out messages, presenting myself honestly as a Las Vegas visitor from Southern California looking to have a good time, and hopefully develop chemistry that will result in repeat meetups and visits.

The responses were overwhelming and the last 48 have been seen a flurry of logistical preparations that would make General Eisenhower proud. But I have succeeded in keeping my schedule completely full.

I have a dinner date tonight (Thursday), and then both a lunch and dinner date for each other day, each with a different girl. Flying back home Monday morning.

I know I'm setting myself up for GPS, but I don't care. I can afford it. Will report back with details.So what happened to the follow up report?

[HollywoodGuy]

Russian Scammer. LOL.

https://www.seeking.com/member/2ae67dff-e58c-48b6-91c6-261190aec7bc

[HollywoodGuy]

I have to say I am a little depressed and worried about my not so new little girl. I see she hasnt posted on her IG in like two weeks, that's like a lifetime for some of these girls. She really is the best girl overall that I have met in like the last few years. But at her age (18) and with her parents thinking she is wack (at one point they had her locked up), who the f knows. When you find a winner, bang them as much as you can, because they can be gone in a heartbeat. My super spinner... gone. That diamond in the rough girl, who the f knows, she was awesome. The nerdy actress... gone. And she only lives like 3 miles from me.

But now I got that little 18 model wannabe chick I posted about a day ago. She txted me today and said she wanted a little more than a quick fuck. Going to take her out for dinner on Friday and then to the no-tel. With her age, looks, skills and undemanding (so far) ways. I will repeat and see where it goes. Still got a couple of POTS on my spreadsheet I really want to follow through on as soon as I can. Ones I already feel a little connection with from txting. You really have to stay on this shit to keep the ball rolling.

Some guys say its too much work, but its gotta be about the same as getting to know girls at the AMP or cruising fig for hours on end. I understand why guys do what they do. Everyone has something that gets their motor running, or suits their lifestyle, budget, social skills, etc. But for me its all about sugaring.

[RogerOver]

I have to say I am a little depressed and worried about my not so new little girl. I see she hasnt posted on her IG in like two weeks, that's like a lifetime for some of these girls. She really is the best girl overall that I have met in like the last few years. But at her age (18) and with her parents thinking she is wack (at one point they had her locked up), who the f knows. When you find a winner, bang them as much as you can, because they can be gone in a heartbeat. My super spinner... gone. That diamond in the rough girl, who the f knows, she was awesome. The nerdy actress... gone. And she only lives like 3 miles from me.

But now I got that little 18 model wannabe chick I posted about a day ago. She txted me today and said she wanted a little more than a quick fuck. Going to take her out for dinner on Friday and then to the no-tel. With her age, looks, skills and undemanding (so far) ways. I will repeat and see where it goes. Still got a couple of POTS on my spreadsheet I really want to follow through on as soon as I can. Ones I already feel a little connection with from txting. You really have to stay on this shit to keep the ball rolling.

Some guys say its too much work, but its gotta be about the same as getting to know girls at the AMP or cruising fig for hours on end. I understand why guys do what they do. Everyone has something that gets their motor running, or suits their lifestyle, budget, social skills, etc. But for me its all about sugaring.For me, I'm not personally all-in for the variety thing. I find a couple I like, make a deal and tend to see them for extended periods of time. I have one girl I've been seeing for two years now. At this point she's perfectly tuned and trained for daddy. LOL.

Not to say I don't branch out once in a while, but I'm not continuously on the hunt either.

[GoldenMan]

So what happened to the follow up report?My Vegas sex vacation. The first in a multi-part series.

Thursday evening dinner date:

Mid-20's Latina. Seemed like a non-pro, but still experienced. I gave her the same line I give most girls, which is that I know she has a pretty face and a great body, but does she also have a pleasant personality to match? Her profile made her seem jaded, but I still contacted her and made a direct offer:

Let's have dinner at Andrea's and see if we like each other and take it from there. I'll pay for everything, you have nothing to lose. Please dress well, as I'll be in a suit, and there's a dress code. Little black dress, something like that.

We met outside the restaurant and she gave me a big friendly hug as requested while I quickly & gently grabbed her ass (I always text and tell them to give me a hug like we're old friends. No hand-shaking).

We started off with cocktails and oysters. She had a sushi roll and only ate part of it, I had the Filet Mignon and 2 glasses of wine.

By the time the table was cleared, my hand was firmly planted on her ass and her hand was rubbing the inside of my leg, dangerously close to my balls (we were sitting next to each other). I had already taken Viagra and was fully erect, but she hadn't quite moved her hand there yet. I asked her if she could see herself hooking up with me, and she said, "Definitely". I invited her up to my room and she asked, "Are you going to spoil me? And I said, "Definitely". Up until then, there was no mention of money, other than me telling her about my life, which implies a lot of things.

In the elevator, she mentioned a specific amount of money she wants, "so I know I'm not getting played". It was less than I expected, and I said it wouldn't be a problem.

3 1/2 hours later she left my room, after draining my balls into her body 3 times. No drama, no hassle, no condoms.

[GoldenMan]

Whatever few Dom skills I have weren't enough to talk this girl down below $$. Maybe somebody would TOFTT? Awesome body if you like petites.

https://www.seeking.com/member/f5c98ec1-8cf1-4c65-8591-43fc48470c80She says she likes to go out to eat.

Maybe take her out and treat her like a normal person rather than treating her like a hooker before you've even met?

She'll probably be happy with something cheap like Red Lobster.

[HollywoodGuy]

For me, I'm not personally all-in for the variety thing. I find a couple I like, make a deal and tend to see them for extended periods of time. I have one girl I've been seeing for two years now. At this point she's perfectly tuned and trained for daddy. LOL.

Not to say I don't branch out once in a while, but I'm not continuously on the hunt either.I like to have a regular or two or three but admittedly I like the variety, my attention span is just too short and there are too many hot girls out there. Supposed to meet this mixed 20 asian/latina? girl on Sunday.

[HollywoodGuy]

My Vegas sex vacation. The first in a multi-part series.

Thursday evening dinner date:

Mid-20's Latina. Seemed like a non-pro, but still experienced. I gave her the same line I give most girls, which is that I know she has a pretty face and a great body, but does she also have a pleasant personality to match? Her profile made her seem jaded, but I still contacted her and made a direct offer:

Let's have dinner at Andrea's and see if we like each other and take it from there. I'll pay for everything, you have nothing to lose. Please dress well, as I'll be in a suit, and there's a dress code. Little black dress, something like that.

We met outside the restaurant and she gave me a big friendly hug as requested while I quickly & gently grabbed her ass (I always text and tell them to give me a hug like we're old friends. No hand-shaking).

We started off with cocktails and oysters. She had a sushi roll and only ate part of it, I had the Filet Mignon and 2 glasses of wine.

By the time the table was cleared, my hand was firmly planted on her ass and her hand was rubbing the inside of my leg, dangerously close to my balls (we were sitting next to each other). I had already taken Viagra and was fully erect, but she hadn't quite moved her hand there yet. I asked her if she could see herself hooking up with me, and she said, "Definitely". I invited her up to my room and she asked, "Are you going to spoil me? And I said, "Definitely". Up until then, there was no mention of money, other than me telling her about my life, which implies a lot of things.

In the elevator, she mentioned a specific amount of money she wants, "so I know I'm not getting played". It was less than I expected, and I said it wouldn't be a problem.

3 1/2 hours later she left my room, after draining my balls into her body 3 times. No drama, no hassle, no condoms.You must be under 60. lol. Great report. Now I know out of the 500 + guys that read this thread, there are some more interesting/entertaining reports to be made. Pics or no pics, lets post them. This one was a great morale booster. that girls body would be a 9+ for most guys. And knowing you went three rounds pretty much says it all. You are either insatiable, her skills were amazing, she had the looks and body to wanna go three rounds or all of the above. I am guessing all of the above.

[Yoyo8899]

So I just recently joined SA and for someone who hasn't done this, it's pretty overwhelming. Wasn't expecting to get this many favorites and interests and messages. That said, been trying to learn from you guys on this site and will share any experiences I have here.

Been messaging with this one and may actually meet in person. Anyone here dealt with her? Is she a catfish or real? Her pic is a photoshop of Gigi Hadid (did a google image search):

https://www.seeking.com/member/816a2218-22ca-7994-c486-63e9a621dbde

[GoldenMan]

My Vegas sex vacation. The first in a multi-part series.

Thursday evening dinner date:

Mid-20's Latina. Seemed like a non-pro, but still experienced. I gave her the same line I give most girls, which is that I know she has a pretty face and a great body, but does she also have a pleasant personality to match? Her profile made her seem jaded, but I still contacted her and made a direct offer:

Let's have dinner at Andrea's and see if we like each other and take it from there. I'll pay for everything, you have nothing to lose. Please dress well, as I'll be in a suit, and there's a dress code. Little black dress, something like that...My Friday Lunch Date:

The girl above from Thursday night started texting me Friday morning, telling me how much fun she had and she wants to see me again.

It was going to be awkward, because I had booked a full schedule for my dick for the next few days, but my pre-scheduled Friday lunch date went radio silent and stopped returning texts. It was really disappointing because she seemed like a civilian and very inexperienced, and I was looking forward to corrupting her. But she flaked.

So instead, I called Thursday girl's bluff and invited her over to my suite immediately. I had her up in my room by 11, immediately stripped our clothes off, and had her give me a long and luxurious blowjob. I miraculously managed to last until 11:31 before I gave her the appetizer to our lunch.

We went down for lunch and ate Sashimi and Pellegrino, and the vibe was a lot different this time. The night before she was just acting very sexy and kind of quiet, and listening while I did most of the talking. This time she started telling me about all kinds of personal stuff and talking way more than before. I was starting to wonder how I was going to get rid of her, since my only cover story for the evening is that I was meeting up with some friends.

Took her back to the room for another round, which was fantastic, and had a shower together and sent her on her way. She didn't ask for money this time, and I didn't give her any.

Which brings us to my Friday dinner date:

Late 20's white girl, pretty obviously a pay-per-meet girl, even before I contacted her. Told me up front she expects to be compensated for any meeting, even if it's "just dinner".

I suggested then that we should skip dinner and go straight to my room, and she agreed and gave me a price. A high-end call girl rate. But she would stay as long as I wanted, within reason, as she has no other plans for the evening.

She texted me a series of provocative photos (which I will keep to myself), and some details of what she really enjoys doing and / or having done to her. So I agreed to her terms, cancelled our dinner reservations, and made plans to meet at 7 pm Friday.

After my repeat date with the girl from the night before, I was tired and took a nap from around 3 to 6. Woke up and got myself ready to meet the next one. Viagra, shower, clean up the room a bit.

She arrived early at the Tower Suite Bar, dressed casually and discreet, but it was definitely her. We immediately caught each other's eye, having just texted what we were wearing so we could spot each other. I had a Gin and Tonic in my hand, and she declined my offer for a drink, so we made our way to the elevator and all the way up to my room.

I had already placed a bunch of $100 bills on the counter in the bathroom, and when we got to the room I made sure she noticed it while I pretended her to give a tour of the Suite. That way it was never mentioned.

I took full advantage of her offer to stay as long as I wanted. She didn't leave until nearly midnight. There was a lot of sex, of course, but she also massaged me, bathed / showered with me, and for about an hour just laid naked next to me and slowly stroked me while we watched porn. The sex was outstanding, and the entire experience was outstanding. She was very beautiful with a very appealing porn-star body and provided a porn-star experience. Well worth every penny.

[GoldenMan]

Which brings us to my Friday dinner date....Saturday lunch date.

Slim and short girl with an exotic look and fake tits, mid 20's.

She's been on the site for a few years and was straight to the point. I was mesmerized by some of her pics and just wanted to do whatever it took to get those tits bouncing off my face.

We skipped lunch and went straight to my suite, where we stayed for a little over 1 hour for a pre-agreed price. Think of a higher-end HX girl, except full porn-star experience. She was a complete expert at making sure I was 100% satisfied. Again, worth every penny.

[HollywoodGuy]

So I just recently joined SA and for someone who hasn't done this, it's pretty overwhelming. Wasn't expecting to get this many favorites and interests and messages. That said, been trying to learn from you guys on this site and will share any experiences I have here.

Been messaging with this one and may actually meet in person. Anyone here dealt with her? Is she a catfish or real? Her pic is a photoshop of Gigi Hadid (did a google image search):

https://www.seeking.com/member/816a2218-22ca-7994-c486-63e9a621dbdeDo not meet her. Many red flags. Seriously dude. Just stop returning any of her txt's. No excuses are needed as you have never even met her. Move on and post your next three POTS for review

[Braddock1]

My Vegas sex vacation. The first in a multi-part series.

Thursday evening dinner date:

Mid-20's Latina. Seemed like a non-pro, but still experienced. I gave her the same line I give most girls, which is that I know she has a pretty face and a great body, but does she also have a pleasant personality to match? Her profile made her seem jaded, but I still contacted her and made a direct offer:

Let's have dinner at Andrea's and see if we like each other and take it from there. I'll pay for everything, you have nothing to lose. Please dress well, as I'll be in a suit, and there's a dress code. Little black dress, something like that.

We met outside the restaurant and she gave me a big friendly hug as requested while I quickly & gently grabbed her ass (I always text and tell them to give me a hug like we're old friends. No hand-shaking).

We started off with cocktails and oysters. She had a sushi roll and only ate part of it, I had the Filet Mignon and 2 glasses of wine.

By the time the table was cleared, my hand was firmly planted on her ass and her hand was rubbing the inside of my leg, dangerously close to my balls (we were sitting next to each other). I had already taken Viagra and was fully erect, but she hadn't quite moved her hand there yet. I asked her if she could see herself hooking up with me, and she said, "Definitely". I invited her up to my room and she asked, "Are you going to spoil me? And I said, "Definitely". Up until then, there was no mention of money, other than me telling her about my life, which implies a lot of things.

In the elevator, she mentioned a specific amount of money she wants, "so I know I'm not getting played". It was less than I expected, and I said it wouldn't be a problem.

3 1/2 hours later she left my room, after draining my balls into her body 3 times. No drama, no hassle, no condoms.You, sir, are a God amongst men. I would have cancelled the rest of my weekend to spend it with her. I can't wait to see the rest of your updates, you lucky bastard. How many roses was her rate?

[GoldenMan]

Saturday lunch date.

.Saturday Night Date.

Tiny little latina spinner, in her late 20's.

New to the site, and obviously a civilian looking for a rich boyfriend. Not a professional at all.

This is the one I had to work the hardest, she was very skeptical about everything, but I just assured her that I could spoil her and make her life easier. We even had a Skype session because she wanted to verify what kind of house I live in and what kind of car I drive. This pretty much satisfied her that I am legit, and she was eager to meet Saturday night.

I had dinner reservations for us, and things did not go well at all. She wasn't nearly as friendly as she was when we Skyped, and it seems to me that she changed her mind at some point and just decided to get a free dinner out of it. Either that, or she took one look at me and changed her mind. She was quiet and distracted all throughout the date.

Nevertheless, I asked her near the end if she could see herself hooking up with me, and she just sort of shrugged and made a funny face. So I went for broke and asked her if she wants money to go up to my room with me, and she said she doesn't do that on the first date. Which really means she won't do it with ME.

Struck out. I was tempted to booty call one of the previous girls. However since I had already been laid that day, I decided to just have a few more cocktails, save up my juices and go to bed early.

[FarFarAway]

I try to find girls from other sources. CL isn't what it was, but there is a Resume section, and if a pretty girl puts a picture in her job ad, I have a standard email I send. So, this POT replies, gives me her #. She right away claims she had an arrangement that was $2 K / meet. I said she should go back to him b / c she was out of my league, and she replies w / 600. I give my standard 'don't negotiate by text' line, and she hits me w / a flurry of obscene texts.

Either you can pay me or you don't have money.

Don't text me anymore or I will send people after you.

I'm already pissed the f* off you wasted my f*ing time thinking I want to f* a f*ing loser.

I am trying to make f*ing money to pay my f*ing bills.

F* you. Delete my number. If I hear from you again I'm going to f* your life up.

Of course, I am safe, this was my GV #.

[LatinXTony]

Some have said they are wanting help and in return a platonic friendship!! What is this of entitlement?? Curious how many idiots actually help for just some cute broad to hang out with you. Just wow.

[Yoyo8899]

Do not meet her. Many red flags. Seriously dude. Just stop returning any of her txt's. No excuses are needed as you have never even met her. Move on and post your next three POTS for reviewFor the advice. There is a little bit of too good to be true going on for sure.

Here is another I've been chatting with. Tried to see her but she wants to know the arrangement up front. Based on what I've been reading here, I always figured negotations should be done in person. But I'm a sucker for French girls.

https://www.seeking.com/member/9ec05dec-3cbc-084f-3815-91e7c6defa09

[Yoyo8899]

I don't want to quote them to save room, but those last two posts you made were solid and packed with some excellent tips and good stories.Definitely very informative and much appreciated for a newbie in a similar situation. Although my wife is bi so hopefully will be able to take advantage of other situations.

[JeffH]

Can I ask what the agreed price was? Thanks.


Saturday lunch date.

Slim and short girl with an exotic look and fake tits, mid 20's.

She's been on the site for a few years and was straight to the point. I was mesmerized by some of her pics and just wanted to do whatever it took to get those tits bouncing off my face.

We skipped lunch and went straight to my suite, where we stayed for a little over 1 hour for a pre-agreed price. Think of a higher-end HX girl, except full porn-star experience. She was a complete expert at making sure I was 100% satisfied. Again, worth every penny.

[HollywoodGuy]

I try to find girls from other sources. CL isn't what it was, but there is a Resume section, and if a pretty girl puts a picture in her job ad, I have a standard email I send. So, this POT replies, gives me her #. She right away claims she had an arrangement that was $2 K / meet. I said she should go back to him b / c she was out of my league, and she replies w / 600. I give my standard 'don't negotiate by text' line, and she hits me w / a flurry of obscene texts.

Either you can pay me or you don't have money.

Don't text me anymore or I will send people after you.

I'm already pissed the f* off you wasted my f*ing time thinking I want to f* a f*ing loser.

I am trying to make f*ing money to pay my f*ing bills.

F* you. Delete my number. If I hear from you again I'm going to f* your life up.

Of course, I am safe, this was my GV #.The ones that scream the loudest do nothing. It's the ones that say nothing that you have to be the most cautious of.

[HollywoodGuy]

Some have said they are wanting help and in return a platonic friendship!! What is this of entitlement?? Curious how many idiots actually help for just some cute broad to hang out with you. Just wow.My GF was one of those girls (playing lame guys for their money). There are a lot of guys that get smitten thinking if they spend some money they will slowly get the girl to see how awesome they are and then finally give them a taste. In my GF's case they would usually spend 1k - 2k before getting angry and finally give up. Typically they would take her to fancy dinners and buy her expensive gifts (things she needed), but also just handing her cash as well. They thrilled at their ability to be seen in public with a hot girl even though she wouldn't allow any touching of any kind (no hand holding or arm around the shoulder). These guys think they are going to get a GF like this. And don't want a girl they think just takes cash for booty.

They seem to like the challenge of winning the girl over (which is rarely going to happen). This gives them the illusion that they got the girl based on their personality, as sadly many times they are not usually that attractive, or have low self esteem. They would be much better off getting a GPS girl, but then that would lower their self esteem even more. These guys need a reality check, but they just have no one to give it to them.

[HollywoodGuy]

For the advice. There is a little bit of too good to be true going on for sure.

Here is another I've been chatting with. Tried to see her but she wants to know the arrangement up front. Based on what I've been reading here, I always figured negotations should be done in person. But I'm a sucker for French girls.

https://www.seeking.com/member/9ec05dec-3cbc-084f-3815-91e7c6defa09Keep looking. Do not hit up any girl whose profile is more than three months old. Just trust me on that bit of advice. And I don't know your type. But up the ante a bit in the looks dept.

[HollywoodGuy]

Definitely very informative and much appreciated for a newbie in a similar situation. Although my wife is bi so hopefully will be able to take advantage of other situations.Interesting. Is she aware of your seeking membership, looking at profiles with you, ? My first wife was bi as well, but that was long before Al Gore invented the internet. We had to rely on chance meetings, quietly putting the word out, etc, but it was always my wife who chose the girls. The funny thing is I dont much care for 3somes, not high on my to do list, but they are quite easy to come by in the sugar world. I have turned down more than a few.

[Tipisil]

Keep looking. Do not hit up any girl whose profile is more than three months old. Just trust me on that bit of advice. And I don't know your type. But up the ante a bit in the looks dept.Is it because they are in it to scam guys? I figure Three months is a relatively recent window, but I guess hundreds of new profiles go up all the time around the area.

[HollywoodGuy]

Is it because they are in it to scam guys? I figure Three months is a relatively recent window, but I guess hundreds of new profiles go up all the time around the area.The newer the better, unless you are a seasoned pro. Even then, they know the game and it could become a battle of wits. Best to have some leverage in keeping the upper hand by sticking with the newbies to start. And if a girl talks about her last arrangement in her profile I will not hit her up... Period.

[LatinXTony]

Hollywood Guy always brings something to this topic! I'm sure if you put up an online course it would blow up over night. I've worked with people that make cash with far less valuable information. Cheers man!

[HollywoodGuy]

*
1 - Admitted we were powerless over our insatiable need for fresh hot pussy but that our game had become weak.

2 - Came to believe that a group of guys more knowledgeable than ourselves could school us to success.

3 - Made a decision to turn our will and our dating lives over to the care of our brothers in the sugar bowl.

4 - Made a searching and fearless moral inventory of ourselves.

5 - Admitted to our brothers and to ourselves (but never to a girl) the weakness of our game.

6 - Were entirely ready to remove all remnants of ignorance and low self esteem.

7 - Humbly asked our brothers for advice.

8 - Made a list of all the hot girls on seeking we wanted to bang and then contacted them with no fear of being rejected.

9 - Made direct offers to them either online, via texting or at the M&G whenever possible, except when to do so could jeopardize our freedom or our bank roll.

10 - Continued to check our game and when it was weak promptly corrected it.

11 - Sought through reading, practical application (and medical supplements when needed) to improve our game as we understood it, praying only for the knowledge to attain better results and the power to carry that out.

12 - Having had our organ drained by dozens of hot girls (at a rate in line with our income) as the result of these steps, we tried to carry this message to our brothers in the sugar bowl and to practice these principles in all our (extramarital) affairs.

And sorry if I offended anyone in any other 12 step program. But hey, you know what? Lighten up. Life is short (especially if you are over 60) so enjoy the fuck out of it while you still can.

[HollywoodGuy]

*
1 - Our common welfare should come first, personal success depends upon SDA unity.

2 - For our group purpose there is but one ultimate goal. To fuck as many hot girls as possible and for well within our personal budgets. Our brothers are but trusted advisers and do not pontificate.

3 - The only requirement for SDA membership is a desire fuck more hot pussy.

4 - Our thread should be autonomous except in matters affecting other threads or USASG as a whole.

5 - Our thread has but one primary purpose. To carry its message to the pussy hound who wants mo better pussy.

6 - An SDA group ought never endorse, promote or lend the SDA name to any unrelated thread or website, lest problems of one upmanship, pissing contests, and holier than thou attitudes divert us from our primary purpose.

7 - Every SDA group ought to be fully self-advising, ignoring outside opinions from the uninitiated, disbelievers and almost anyone under the age of 30.

8 - Sugar Daddy Anonymous should remain forever nonprofessional, so our members are welcome to put in their two cents at any time.

9 - SDA, as such, ought never be organized; but we may create other threads on this site to spread the word.

10 - Sugar Daddy Anonymous has no opinion on civi dating; hence the SDA name ought never be drawn into traditional relationship issues.

11 - Our public relations policy is based on attraction rather than promotion; we need always maintain personal anonymity in the face of SO's, POPO, and GF's.

12 - Our sexual gratification is the foundation of all our Traditions, ever reminding us to place penis before pudenda.

[SnookBoy]

Great score! Congratulations.


Here is the 22 half mexican half pinay girl I M&G'ed about 10 days ago. Finally had our first date last night. Ended up costing me $$ including the room, some party favors and a trip to subway for a snack. Cute enough and tiny body girl (5.1), pretty enthusiastic, decent skills, very sloppy and for you foot guys (her feet were basically a 9 or 10). Not size dumbo's. Based on a scale of 1 to 10.... lol... They were actually a size 5.5 and perfectly arched. Smelled amazing. Said she was an x dancer (not stripper) and spent years over arching her feet intentionally to get them to look that way.

Her skin was so white I wasnt sure I was gonna be attracted to her, but what she lacked in color she more than made up for in personality, kissing skills and foot play.

[HollywoodGuy]

Here is the 22 half mexican half pinay girl I M&G'ed about 10 days ago. Finally had our first date last night. Ended up costing me $$ including the room, some party favors and a trip to subway for a snack. Cute enough and tiny body girl (5. 1), pretty enthusiastic, decent skills, very sloppy and for you foot guys (her feet were basically a 9 or 10). Not size dumbo's. Based on a scale of 1 to 10. LOL. They were actually a size 5. 5 and perfectly arched. Smelled amazing. Said she was an x dancer (not stripper) and spent years over arching her feet intentionally to get them to look that way.

Her skin was so white I wasnt sure I was going to be attracted to her, but what she lacked in color she more than made up for in personality, kissing skills and foot play.

[LBrad52]

*
1 - Our common welfare should come first, personal success depends upon SDA unity.

2 - For our group purpose there is but one ultimate goal. To fuck as many hot girls as possible and for well within our personal budgets. Our brothers are but trusted advisers and do not pontificate.

3 - The only requirement for SDA membership is a desire fuck more hot pussy.

4 - Our thread should be autonomous except in matters affecting other threads or USASG as a whole.

5 - Our thread has but one primary purpose. To carry its message to the pussy hound who wants mo better pussy.

6 - An SDA group ought never endorse, promote or lend the SDA name to any unrelated thread or website, lest problems of one upmanship, pissing contests, and holier than thou attitudes divert us from our primary purpose.

7 - Every SDA group ought to be fully self-advising, ignoring outside opinions from the uninitiated, disbelievers and almost anyone under the age of 30.

8 - Sugar Daddy Anonymous should remain forever nonprofessional, so our members are welcome to put in their two cents at any time.

9 - SDA, as such, ought never be organized; but we may create other threads on this site to spread the word.

10 - Sugar Daddy Anonymous has no opinion on civi dating; hence the SDA name ought never be drawn into traditional relationship issues.

11 - Our public relations policy is based on attraction rather than promotion; we need always maintain personal anonymity in the face of SO's, POPO, and GF's.

12 - Our sexual gratification is the foundation of all our Traditions, ever reminding us to place penis before pudenda.We have no opinion on outside issues! A vision for you.

[HollywoodGuy]

Told me she gets 8 bills a date.

https://www.seeking.com/member/d3751578-b9c8-4a55-8dd7-84409a40c928

guess I won't be seeing her anytime soon.

[HollywoodGuy]

Great score! Congratulations.Thanks, and to everyone. Not sharing. An NP that's now an SB. Sorry guys.

[GoodBoy88]

Told me she gets 8 bills a date.

https://www.seeking.com/member/d3751578-b9c8-4a55-8dd7-84409a40c928

guess I won't be seeing her anytime soon.Yo WTF that same chick quoted me 180 but I wasn't interested because she's not my style.

[HollywoodGuy]

Yo WTF that same chick quoted me 180 but I wasn't interested because she's not my style.I am sure I could have negotiated her to $$ . But I don't negotiate and $$ is still over my budget. And at $$ I could do better. She is a $ to $.5 girl at best. Just thought it was funny. Probably one time some guy did give her that, so now she is hoping to get lucky. It's luck when someone wins the lottery for a few dollars. They just keep buying tickets

[RogerOver]

Here is the 22 half mexican half pinay girl I M&G'ed about 10 days ago. Finally had our first date last night. Ended up costing me $$ including the room, some party favors and a trip to subway for a snack. Cute enough and tiny body girl (5. 1), pretty enthusiastic, decent skills, very sloppy and for you foot guys (her feet were basically a 9 or 10). Not size dumbo's. Based on a scale of 1 to 10. LOL. They were actually a size 5. 5 and perfectly arched. Smelled amazing. Said she was an x dancer (not stripper) and spent years over arching her feet intentionally to get them to look that way.

Her skin was so white I wasnt sure I was going to be attracted to her, but what she lacked in color she more than made up for in personality, kissing skills and foot play.Personally, I think that hottie's oatmeal cookie is hot as fuck. LOL.

[HollywoodGuy]

Personally, I think that hottie's oatmeal cookie is hot as fuck. LOL.I def plan on seeing her again. She was fun and she was very affectionate. No car, but only 15 minutes away in any traffic. I redid her resume for her today. As I have always done a little HR work for extra money it was pretty easy. Just copy and pasted her name on to a perfect resume. Most likely she will get an extra $3 an hour because of it. She was so grateful. its shit like that, that an SB really appreciates and also gives good reason to keeping the allowance down. These girls need help in so many ways. Its the smart ones that always take less, they know that an older guy can handle life issues with ease. And plan on asking for that help. But if you are payin some girl top dollar, screw her if she wants your time. I am sure that there are more than a few high earners (and just busy people) on this thread that can appreciate what I am saying. Time is money, and sometimes a lot more valuable than what we are paying them. So a girl that gets a $ can always ask me for an extra (whatever that may be).

Today I did a M&G with a 19 skinny african girl. Not sure why, but I took her out to a fancy lunch. I guess the atmosphere had some effect on her as she agreed to hit the no-tel for a short romp after. So glad I did not take her to my place (which she wanted me to do), turns out she was a heavy squirter, which she never mentioned. If she would have trashed my linens I would have been super pissed off (no pun intended). Not to mention I would have had to clean all that up before my GF got off work today. But not to worry, the no-tel took the damage. She was just OK in some ways and fun in others. I originally had an FC date planned after the M&G with a different girl. As there was no guarantee that the M&G would progress to the FC. So obviously I had to flake on that. Sometimes girls flake on us, and sometimes we flake on them. In the sugar bowl things can move fast. You have to be able to shift gears on a dime and not get too upset when it shifts against you.

[HollywoodGuy]

Four girls in 4 days.

Fri nite- 22 - mexican / pinay

Sun afternoon- 19 - skinny african girl

Sun nite - 25 - GF

Mon afternoon - 18 - hottie / pictured

The hottie is that, especially with her clothes off. But the chemistry just isnt totally right. It sucks because she has such an adorable little body. I don't think her heart is really in it. Nothing compared to the pinay girl (totally fun party girl). So far this year I have had one amazing score, "my not so new little girl". Hit the FC maybe 30 times in 5 months and then poof, gone. I know she will be back, but who knows when.

Supposed to have a date with a model quality girl tomorrow. I may have to reset her to wed and give jimmy a rest.

[Ks Dark Knight]

*
1 - Admitted we were powerless over our insatiable need for fresh hot pussy but that our game had become weak.

2 - Came to believe that a group of guys more knowledgeable than ourselves could school us to success.

3 - Made a decision to turn our will and our dating lives over to the care of our brothers in the sugar bowl.

4 - Made a searching and fearless moral inventory of ourselves.

5 - Admitted to our brothers and to ourselves (but never to a girl) the weakness of our game.

6 - Were entirely ready to remove all remnants of ignorance and low self esteem.

7 - Humbly asked our brothers for advice.

8 - Made a list of all the hot girls on seeking we wanted to bang and then contacted them with no fear of being rejected.

9 - Made direct offers to them either online, via texting or at the M&G whenever possible, except when to do so could jeopardize our freedom or our bank roll.

10 - Continued to check our game and when it was weak promptly corrected it.

11 - Sought through reading, practical application (and medical supplements when needed) to improve our game as we understood it, praying only for the knowledge to attain better results and the power to carry that out.

12 - Having had our organ drained by dozens of hot girls (at a rate in line with our income) as the result of these steps, we tried to carry this message to our brothers in the sugar bowl and to practice these principles in all our (extramarital) affairs.

And sorry if I offended anyone in any other 12 step program. But hey, you know what? Lighten up. Life is short (especially if you are over 60) so enjoy the fuck out of it while you still can.LOL as a member of AA myself, that is the coolest thing I have read in some time. LOL and yes life is too short thnks HG.

[Ks Dark Knight]

*
1 - Our common welfare should come first, personal success depends upon SDA unity.

2 - For our group purpose there is but one ultimate goal. To fuck as many hot girls as possible and for well within our personal budgets. Our brothers are but trusted advisers and do not pontificate.

3 - The only requirement for SDA membership is a desire fuck more hot pussy.

4 - Our thread should be autonomous except in matters affecting other threads or USASG as a whole.

5 - Our thread has but one primary purpose. To carry its message to the pussy hound who wants mo better pussy.

6 - An SDA group ought never endorse, promote or lend the SDA name to any unrelated thread or website, lest problems of one upmanship, pissing contests, and holier than thou attitudes divert us from our primary purpose.

7 - Every SDA group ought to be fully self-advising, ignoring outside opinions from the uninitiated, disbelievers and almost anyone under the age of 30.

8 - Sugar Daddy Anonymous should remain forever nonprofessional, so our members are welcome to put in their two cents at any time.

9 - SDA, as such, ought never be organized; but we may create other threads on this site to spread the word.

10 - Sugar Daddy Anonymous has no opinion on civi dating; hence the SDA name ought never be drawn into traditional relationship issues.

11 - Our public relations policy is based on attraction rather than promotion; we need always maintain personal anonymity in the face of SO's, POPO, and GF's.

12 - Our sexual gratification is the foundation of all our Traditions, ever reminding us to place penis before pudenda.Definitely on a roll LOL thnks again.

[JeffH]

You're making me want to jump on Seeking. Can I ask what you're typically giving these girls?

And did that Halloween three way happen?


Four girls in 4 days.

Fri nite- 22 - mexican / pinay

Sun afternoon- 19 - skinny african girl

Sun nite - 25 - GF

Mon afternoon - 18 - hottie / pictured

The hottie is that, especially with her clothes off. But the chemistry just isnt totally right. It sucks because she has such an adorable little body. I don't think her heart is really in it. Nothing compared to the pinay girl (totally fun party girl). So far this year I have had one amazing score, "my not so new little girl". Hit the FC maybe 30 times in 5 months and then poof, gone. I know she will be back, but who knows when.

Supposed to have a date with a model quality girl tomorrow. I may have to reset her to wed and give jimmy a rest.

[HollywoodGuy]

You're making me want to jump on Seeking. Can I ask what you're typically giving these girls?

And did that Halloween three way happen?I pay every girl the same. $ . If the date costs more its only because of the normal expenses like room, food, etc. If a girl harasses me for more or pretends she forgot the allowance amount, I will give up an extra .2 and usually never see her again, or clearly state that its a $ going forward or goodbye. And I don't do 3 ways.

The total cost of my last few dates has been like $$ or a tiny bit less due to the no-tel and food, etc. Taking my new half pinay girl on a real date this sat. Dinner, movie, no-tel. thats gonna run $$ and a little more. But she is the best of the lot that I have interviewed over the last few months.

Going to vegas next week for work. I would love to take my not so new little girl, but she is still MIA. She would be down for basically just the trip alone. So just food and weed really. The room and car rental is the same with or without her. When we went to mexico her extra cost was like maybe $$ and I got like 5 trips to the FC. I dont think I like anyone else well enough to wanna be stuck with them for 3 days. And no real time to prospect while I am there as this is a hard core biz trip.

[JeffH]

Thanks for sharing! And sorry, I must've misremembered who mentioned the three way.


I pay every girl the same. $ . If the date costs more its only because of the normal expenses like room, food, etc. If a girl harasses me for more or pretends she forgot the allowance amount, I will give up an extra .2 and usually never see her again, or clearly state that its a $ going forward or goodbye. And I don't do 3 ways.

The total cost of my last few dates has been like $$ or a tiny bit less due to the no-tel and food, etc. Taking my new half pinay girl on a real date this sat. Dinner, movie, no-tel. thats gonna run $$ and a little more. But she is the best of the lot that I have interviewed over the last few months.

Going to vegas next week for work. I would love to take my not so new little girl, but she is still MIA. She would be down for basically just the trip alone. So just food and weed really. The room and car rental is the same with or without her. When we went to mexico her extra cost was like maybe $$ and I got like 5 trips to the FC. I dont think I like anyone else well enough to wanna be stuck with them for 3 days. And no real time to prospect while I am there as this is a hard core biz trip.

[Wobbowobbo]

Yo WTF that same chick quoted me 180 but I wasn't interested because she's not my style.This girl is on HX.

Do any of you double check the girls on SA? There is nothing worse than thinking you are paying top dollar or whatever you think is a fair amount for something she is giving up for way cheaper and more to the point on some other site.

[HollywoodGuy]

This girl is on HX.

Do any of you double check the girls on SA? There is nothing worse than thinking you are paying top dollar or whatever you think is a fair amount for something she is giving up for way cheaper and more to the point on some other site.I don't do HX. But thanks for the heads up. On seeking there are just so many girls that there is no reason to get hung up on anyone. If its not a warm handshake, just go to the next one.

And just a side note, I doubt many of the pretty $ girls are on HX anyway.

[Mile22]

I don't do HX. But thanks for the heads up. On seeking there are just so many girls that there is no reason to get hung up on anyone. If its not a warm handshake, just go to the next one.

And just a side note, I doubt many of the pretty $ girls are on HX anyway.There are quite a few SA girls on HX, and other escorting sites (mainly Eros).

I've recognized many from LA, OC, IE, and SD.

Those that replied generally ask for significantly more on SA than they do on HX, and expect monthly's. A small handful were willing to do PPM for around the same.

Eros girls usually ask for about the same on SA as they would from a client.

I've never bothered actually meeting any of these girls.

They just don't hold the value that NPs or new SBs do, for a number of reasons I'm sure we're all well aware of.

[Drken]

Yo WTF that same chick quoted me 180 but I wasn't interested because she's not my style.Looks like she has a big ass.

[Drken]

I was bored at work and mad that I had never kept stats so I started from memory. I still have it at work, but my SB count from the last two years (about 30) is approaching my civi count. I am 57. I put SW, strip club, AMP and Apt girls in another category, funny thing is I can't remember a decent amount of those. The SW's because the only time I sampled I was pretty drunk. The AMP and Apt, because really nothing special except for a few. I can't remeber if it just a HJ or FS from a bunch of visits or how many times I visited Apts, I should have kept stats. I am still trying to get my first black SA girl. I'm in Chicago and no where near the selection you LA guys get.Interesting stats, can you please include a cost per encounter for each group?

[HollywoodGuy]

Did a 20 white girl just accept my $ offer? Tune in later to find out.

[HollywoodGuy]

Supposed to meet this one tomorrow. She wanted to come over tonite, but couldn't swing it.

[Large Ess]

Supposed to meet this one tomorrow. She wanted to come over tonite, but couldn't swing it.Oh, she looks fine.

[HollywoodGuy]

This weeks POTS. Got to have a lot as you never know which ones will ultimately come through.

[HollywoodGuy]

Actually the best one I have I don't even have a picture of. Best attitude by far, she made a profile, deleted it in short order, but then kept txting me. Middle class from the mid-west. Parents have her in a private school out here and in an apt in beverly hills. 18, shy, submissive. Going to vegas tomorrow, hope to see her when I get back.

[The Tall Man]

This weeks POTS. Got to have a lot as you never know which ones will ultimately come through.Wow all very doable for sure, let us know which and how many actually follow through. You cast your bait the full width across the water now to see what you catch on the hook.

The Tall Man.

[HollywoodGuy]

Wow all very doable for sure, let us know which and how many actually follow through. You cast your bait the full width across the water now to see what you catch on the hook.

The Tall Man.Prelim reposrt.

1 - moving her along waiting to see if she accepts the $ offer.

2 - accepted offer. Waiting to see if she accepts terms to get the $.

3 - accepted offer. Waiting to see if she accepts terms to get the $.

4 - accepted the terms. Kind of sketchy. Next step is to go to the FC.

5 - accepted the terms. Passed on first opportunity to hit the FC as I was busy. Sometimes that alone can kill the deal. But she txted next day, so we will see.

[JohnRichard]

Prelim reposrt.

1 - moving her along waiting to see if she accepts the $ offer.

2 - accepted offer. Waiting to see if she accepts terms to get the $.

3 - accepted offer. Waiting to see if she accepts terms to get the $.

4 - accepted the terms. Kind of sketchy. Next step is to go to the FC.

5 - accepted the terms. Passed on first opportunity to hit the FC as I was busy. Sometimes that alone can kill the deal. But she txted next day, so we will see.Curious what your terms are if you don't mind sharing a high level summary.

[Large Ess]

Prelim reposrt.

1 - moving her along waiting to see if she accepts the $ offer.

2 - accepted offer. Waiting to see if she accepts terms to get the $.

3 - accepted offer. Waiting to see if she accepts terms to get the $.

4 - accepted the terms. Kind of sketchy. Next step is to go to the FC.

5 - accepted the terms. Passed on first opportunity to hit the FC as I was busy. Sometimes that alone can kill the deal. But she txted next day, so we will see.Hey HG, also curious as the the difference between accepted offer and accepted terms. I have followed your example for years and it has served me well. The offer of $ and the terms are all in the same message for me. Would be interested in the nuance you put in place.

[HollywoodGuy]

Curious what your terms are if you don't mind sharing a high level summary.The terms are for a light intimate date in the fc. Must agree to kissing and HJ only. But it rarely stops there. Like almost never.

[HollywoodGuy]

Hey HG, also curious as the the difference between accepted offer and accepted terms. I have followed your example for years and it has served me well. The offer of $ and the terms are all in the same message for me. Would be interested in the nuance you put in place.You can not offer dollars for sex on seeking. So I always offer my $ for their time/date. If they agree I ask them to email me for the details/terms of what a date will entail. When they email I give them the choice of an unpaid M&G or a paid fc date. half never reply. their hopes dashed thinking they were gonna get paid a $ just to have lunch with me. yeah right. the other half agree to one or the other. Many times the m&g will lead directly to the fc. and sometimes not, maybe never, or sometimes at a later date.

I just know you always need to be prepared to go from the m&g right to the fc. It happens a lot.

A few recent examples, I did an M&G with the half pinay girl and 10 days later we hit the no-tel. awesome date. I M&Ged a GPS asian just for the fuck of it, the next thing I know we are in her fc. but never again, she was just curious. Took a skinny blond AA girl to a fancy lunch next thing I know we are at the no-tel. But also did an M&G with an older african girl, and she never txted me back. These were all in the last 8 weeks. And most of the other M&Gs as of late also ended up in the FC. But giving the girl the choice of two low pressure options lets them know you are not a thirsty b***h, which basically makes them want you more.

The girls that go straight to the FC mostly just drop their panties immediately, but i have had some stick to the terms as agreed upon. Those girls i rarely see again. If a girl doesnt let you in her pussy or mouth on a first date she most likely never will. So i rarely bother to find out. There are just too many more waiting in line for their chance to make Daddy happy.

And a note to the newbies, never ever ever talk about sex, except in the driest, matter of fact terms, or your dick size, or send dick pics. I absolutely refuse to sext a girl i have never dated. A confident, assumptive, approach combined with an obvious adoration of their looks and personality is all thats required to get what you want (in balance with the sugar). If they ask you a direct sexual question, just answer it in the briefest way possible only.

If a girl asks me anything about my dick size or skills I just say i am "above average" or "experienced" in those exact words, and not a word more. I actually slipped up with the blond skinny AA girl when she asked about my skills. I said "awesome". She immediately shot back that every guy says that and then they never are. But after 10 minutes in the FC she gushed a pint of fluid, so whatever pressure there was to perform was gone. She then proceeded to milk me as commanded. lol

[HollywoodGuy]

Anyway I am in Vegas for the next few days with my now not MIA not so new little girl. No sugar, just food, drinks and party favors. So all m&g's are on hold till Sunday?

I forgot how awesome she is in bed, just raised the bar for anyone that thinks they can get more than a date or two or three out of me. I may do an x milf i know while I am here. She made me promised her I would (sans sugar). And my little girl could care less if she has to vacate the room for a few while I do. Told her about it on the drive up.

[JeffH]

What is FC?


You can not offer dollars for sex on seeking. So I always offer my $ for their time/date. If they agree I ask them to email me for the details/terms of what a date will entail. When they email I give them the choice of an unpaid M&G or a paid fc date. half never reply. their hopes dashed thinking they were gonna get paid a $ just to have lunch with me. yeah right. the other half agree to one or the other. Many times the m&g will lead directly to the fc. and sometimes not, maybe never, or sometimes at a later date.

[HollywoodGuy]

What is FC?fornication chambre... and pardon my french.

[HollywoodGuy]

I sent this one my offer only because she clicked on my profile.

https://www.seeking.com/messages/inbox/bf96b8d9-95b6-41f5-87bd-158f5fdb3f6e

HER REPLY.

"Sure, for cocktails or coffee or a for a movie date that would work out fine, your 100".

I would usually never reply or reach out to an obvious GPS girl, but sometimes I do just to reinforce my beliefs in my system. She was smart enough to know where I was going with my offer. So she basically cut me off at the pass before I could even give her the terms of the arrangement. No need to reply. Just delete and move on.

[HollywoodGuy]

Vegas was cool. Did my job. Did my girl. Going to leave soon. My not so new little girl has the definition of perky breasts. Just the way I like 'em. I never was a big boob kinda guy. Hit the FC 4 times .. extra cost to take her on the trip was $$$.5. Well worth it. I still have time to squeeze in one more romp, but it's really just overkill at this point.

[HollywoodGuy]

Couldn't help myself. Pulled off the 15 on the way back and hit it once more in the car.

[PhantomPhx69]

Man I would take you out for drinks just for this info. Thanks man.


You can not offer dollars for sex on seeking. So I always offer my $ for their time/date. If they agree I ask them to email me for the details/terms of what a date will entail. When they email I give them the choice of an unpaid M&G or a paid fc date. half never reply. their hopes dashed thinking they were gonna get paid a $ just to have lunch with me. yeah right. the other half agree to one or the other. Many times the m&g will lead directly to the fc. and sometimes not, maybe never, or sometimes at a later date.

I just know you always need to be prepared to go from the m&g right to the fc. It happens a lot.

A few recent examples, I did an M&G with the half pinay girl and 10 days later we hit the no-tel. awesome date. I M&Ged a GPS asian just for the fuck of it, the next thing I know we are in her fc. but never again, she was just curious. Took a skinny blond AA girl to a fancy lunch next thing I know we are at the no-tel. But also did an M&G with an older african girl, and she never txted me back. These were all in the last 8 weeks. And most of the other M&Gs as of late also ended up in the FC. But giving the girl the choice of two low pressure options lets them know you are not a thirsty b***h, which basically makes them want you more.

The girls that go straight to the FC mostly just drop their panties immediately, but i have had some stick to the terms as agreed upon. Those girls i rarely see again. If a girl doesnt let you in her pussy or mouth on a first date she most likely never will. So i rarely bother to find out. There are just too many more waiting in line for their chance to make Daddy happy.

And a note to the newbies, never ever ever talk about sex, except in the driest, matter of fact terms, or your dick size, or send dick pics. I absolutely refuse to sext a girl i have never dated. A confident, assumptive, approach combined with an obvious adoration of their looks and personality is all thats required to get what you want (in balance with the sugar). If they ask you a direct sexual question, just answer it in the briefest way possible only.

If a girl asks me anything about my dick size or skills I just say i am "above average" or "experienced" in those exact words, and not a word more. I actually slipped up with the blond skinny AA girl when she asked about my skills. I said "awesome". She immediately shot back that every guy says that and then they never are. But after 10 minutes in the FC she gushed a pint of fluid, so whatever pressure there was to perform was gone. She then proceeded to milk me as commanded. lol

[HollywoodGuy]

Man I would take you out for drinks just for this info. Thanks man.I don't drink. lol. And you are welcome. It's kinda like when you see those ads on TV. "lease a new BMW for only $299 a month". You rush down to the dealer and they say, "oh, and btw there's a 5k deposit at signing".

It's not a true bait and switch, it's more of a bait and explain the details later. Another approach I have seen in these threads is to allude to the job, the car, the house to create an illusion of possible things to come. I won't say I have never done that. But being a jeans and t-shirt kind of guy, that drives a very used car and has an average income, that really wouldn't work for me anyway. (and when I had all those things, I just got GPS'ed a lot anyway). An experienced/intelligent girl will always be thinking, it really doesn't matter how much you have but only how much are you willing to spend.

I once had a discussion in a parking lot about sugaring with this guy, that in a condescending tone told me he never paid cash to get pussy (all this while standing next to his 250K ride), and I was like dude... really? So for you average income or even lower income guys, you are not out of the race by any means. I became a sugar daddy because I had the ways and means to paper over any situation. But it wasn't until my fortunes eroded that I sharpened my game, to not only be able to participate, but to fully enjoy my time in the bowl.

No doubt I have had to give up a lot of other hobbies/pursuits (and GPS girls) to keep this one. So when a girl asks me what I like to do for fun, I just answer her by saying "I'm doing it right now". It puts a smile on their face every time.

If a girl is more interested in being wined & dined in a fancy dress so the whole world can see how awesome she is, as opposed to getting her cell phone bill paid, and her Daddy telling her she is his favorite little girl in the whole world, then she is probably not the girl for me. (at least until I get rich again... and even then)

[Mile22]

Spotted another lady from HX here on SA.

Chatted her up just to see what she's expecting from an SD.

She's looking for a ppm of $800-$1,000.

She must be zonked out of her mind.

I replied "A friend of mine says he recognizes you from another site & he knows for a fact that you ask for $300 per meet. Can you explain exactly what value you'd be bringing to an arrangement here to justify a $500-$700 increase?

She read it and hasn't replied lmao.

[HollywoodGuy]

Spotted another lady from HX here on SA.

Chatted her up just to see what she's expecting from an SD.

She's looking for a ppm of $800-$1,000.

She must be zonked out of her mind.

I replied "A friend of mine says he recognizes you from another site & he knows for a fact that you ask for $300 per meet. Can you explain exactly what value you'd be bringing to an arrangement here to justify a $500-$700 increase?

She read it and hasn't replied lmao.When you are new (and sometimes not so new on SA), its tempting to call a girl out on her BS. But seriously that kind of stuff is more of a distraction than anything. Get in the habit of just deleting their message and hiding their profile and move on. We all have only so much energy to put out and if even a little bit of it is wasted on petty BS it distracts from the primary purpose.

[Mile22]

When you are new (and sometimes not so new on SA), its tempting to call a girl out on her BS. But seriously that kind of stuff is more of a distraction than anything. Get in the habit of just deleting their message and hiding their profile and move on. We all have only so much energy to put out and if even a little bit of it is wasted on petty BS it distracts from the primary purpose.Yea. Normally that's what I would've done & have done in the past.

I just thought it'd be funny to call her out since her profile text says she isn't an escort, and that it's offensive to approach her as though she is (go figure).

[HollywoodGuy]

Yea. Normally that's what I would've done & have done in the past.

I just thought it'd be funny to call her out since her profile text says she isn't an escort, and that it's offensive to approach her as though she is (go figure).If a girl says anything about that in her profile, I will not message her. And OK. Cool.

[HollywoodGuy]

I see on some of the profiles now, that girls have an age range listed. It seems to always top out at 60. Is that as high as it allows them to go?

[Mile22]

I see on some of the profiles now, that girls have an age range listed. It seems to always top out at 60. Is that as high as it allows them to go?60 is the upper limit.

[HollywoodGuy]

60 is the upper limit.Thats sad... lol.. I once had an 18 year old that said she loved everything about me, except one thing. That I wasnt over 70. True story

[HollywoodGuy]

This weeks POTS.

1 - mostly in agreement. But hard to turn down a 5' babydoll. Love to see her this weekend. A great one and done if nothing else.

2 - classy looks, very pretty. Seemed interested at first, but hasnt logged into the site for a week.

3 - in full agreement but lives too freaking far. Comes to LA sometimes. I have just been too busy to make the effort. And no overpriced ubers. So I just have to wait.

Between my work, my GF and my not so new little girl I have very little time (or money) to spare these days.

[Ognib]

Not in this area but have been an avid student of this thread (and the Richmond thread, etc) for a long time, and there are a few things I have learned. I'm in about as middle of the midwest as one can be and can attest to HG's messaging method. It works. Probably not as well as on the coasts, but it does generate interest-and the pics I have up are borderline creepy (so I have been told. LOL). I usually send out the standard message #1 and wait. I have not done the stats but I would say I get a 40-50% reply rate. If the reply is just to see my private photos I generally move on. After they reply, I will shoot message #2, which has been tweaked a bit to my taste. You can tell it gets their attention because the replies then come much faster. The girls around here are. Girls I guess, because I will get replies that say that is just what they are looking for but if you turn the conversation a bit sexual many times they back off on that part. The 18-20 yos are the most flighty; older than that seem to mostly get it. I'm in the middle of a back and forth with a HG type of girl and have been really tip toeing. Is in to message #2, and wants to meet. I mention that I don't pay just to meet and she is ok with that but wants to meet a handful of times and see if we have chemistry (I push the needing a connection / chemistry thing). I mention again that I don't pay just to meet and she blasts back the 'what do you pay for?. I am not a prostitute! Message. I almost stopped my communication with her, but thought 'WWHGD'. LOL, and answered back with "I can tell this wouldn't work out if you look at this as getting paid to do something. Mutual companionship is offered and enjoyed and the allowance is given to help you out with your needs because I want to. That is why I need some kind of a connection. I want you to WANT to please and be pleased. Do I want an intimate relationship?-yes. Blah blah blah twisted message #2 again blah blah I understand not every girl is in to this blah blah I don't judge". I really thought the conversation was over but the response was I think we need to discuss this in person. Have not discussed allowance yet but an interesting reply from her was 'I did word that very crudely. From my short experience on here that's what guys treat it as, almost like a transaction. They offer to give me money and I give them love or sex. I was looking for something emotionally and mutually beneficial but they looked at it as basically paying me to do things for them so my view of men on this sight has changed as more messages made it clear they were looking for only discreet private time. It made me forget that there are people on here to want the connection and I am very sorry for assuming off of what I've experienced so far. I do feel like we want the same thing and for it to not be treated as an allowance / transaction but a mutually beneficial relationship. ".

Let this be a lesson?. And note she mentions nothing in her profile about FWB or anything to hint intimacy. Don't pay attention to what they post. They will either respond or they won't and sometimes you may be surprised.

HG- I do have one question. Not so many posts ago you mentioned to a fine gentleman asking advice that a particular profile 'had red flags all over it. Just stop the communication'. I looked at the profile and saw nothing that tweaked my attention. What gives? Also, I think I will incorporate your 'terms' you mention and see how I can spin that one.

Og.

[HollywoodGuy]

HG- I do have one question. Not so many posts ago you mentioned to a fine gentleman asking advice that a particular profile 'had red flags all over it. Just stop the communication'. I looked at the profile and saw nothing that tweaked my attention. What gives? Also, I think I will incorporate your 'terms' you mention and see how I can spin that one.

Og.I would need to know the post # to recall that one.

Today my not so new little girl informed me that she moved in with a SD and is now getting 2k a month allowance on top of it. This is a good thing and something we had talked about many times. I helped upgrade her profile and very quickly she found someone. I am sure it will go to 3k a month once all her meals etc are figured in. She moved very close to me so seeing her on the side will be pretty easy logistically. And at this point except for some inexpensive gifts I plan to just turn off the sugar. I consider it a win win situation. We will see how tight a reign he keeps on her, but this is not a girl you can tie down. She has her friends and she likes to party and go out.

[The Tall Man]

This weeks POTS.

1 - mostly in agreement. But hard to turn down a 5' babydoll. Love to see her this weekend. A great one and done if nothing else.

2 - classy looks, very pretty. Seemed interested at first, but hasnt logged into the site for a week.

3 - in full agreement but lives too freaking far. Comes to LA sometimes. I have just been too busy to make the effort. And no overpriced ubers. So I just have to wait.

Between my work, my GF and my not so new little girl I have very little time (or money) to spare these days.I enjoyed reading all of your adventures and posts for a long time, I too feel your pain as circumstances change, heck I recall just a couple years ago I had many cuties to choose from but again circumstances and life changes and so am out of this venue (sugar daddy girls) for the past almost 2 years.

Time to move on!

The Tall Man.

[Ognib]

I would need to know the post # to recall that one.

Today my not so new little girl informed me that she moved in with a SD and is now getting 2k a month allowance on top of it. This is a good thing and something we had talked about many times. I helped upgrade her profile and very quickly she found someone. I am sure it will go to 3k a month once all her meals etc are figured in. She moved very close to me so seeing her on the side will be pretty easy logistically. And at this point except for some inexpensive gifts I plan to just turn off the sugar. I consider it a win win situation. We will see how tight a reign he keeps on her, but this is not a girl you can tie down. She has her friends and she likes to party and go out.It was #3399.

[HollywoodGuy]

It was #3399.1 - "photoshop of Gigi Hadid" uses a fake pic.

2 - "I love traveling! = GPS most of the time.

3 - "I like to be spoiled getting help with bills" spoiling and bills = GPS.

4 - "worldly" = GPS.

I guess if you can afford to spoil a 28 year old with no pic and pay her bills, then go for it. Tell me she wants less than 2 k-3 k a month. I won't believe it.

[Dctator1]

This weeks POTS.

1 - mostly in agreement. But hard to turn down a 5' babydoll. Love to see her this weekend. A great one and done if nothing else.

2 - classy looks, very pretty. Seemed interested at first, but hasnt logged into the site for a week.

3 - in full agreement but lives too freaking far. Comes to LA sometimes. I have just been too busy to make the effort. And no overpriced ubers. So I just have to wait.

Between my work, my GF and my not so new little girl I have very little time (or money) to spare these days.Every time I see you post pics of new girls it makes me want to join SA, but then I think there is no way there can be any girls left. And then you post more pics of girls you are in negotiations with. My god you rock. I am being left behind LOL.

[FarFarAway]

I am pursuing a mostly different demographic than commonly discussed here. I also haven't had an active profile on seeking lately. I become obsessed w / it when I can message, so I must take it in small doses. I get my fix in other ways, though. One, a free site called pantydeal, which is a poor substitute, because there is essentially no geographic search function. I also got a paid profile on establishedmen for a month ($60). I will review it separately, on the Richmond thread. I didn't get much from it, but the real profiles I found there were mostly older, and not necessarily all SBs. That is, some girls civvy dating.

I had my first FC yesterday w / one I met from there. She's a petite Barbie, blond / big (fake) tits, quite beautiful, a nurse turned realtor and single mom. 30's. Reported a past 5 year arrangement, so knows the ropes. Able to get a hotel, necessary for me as I have a SO. Advertised herself well at the M&G, and I wasn't disappointed. She said she wanted her man to lead, but she wasn't as submissive as some I have met in the bowl, so the sex was pretty straightforward. One thing I ask is that they tell me when they are going to cum. I think this encourages them to be vocal. I had already been playing w / her pussy / clit when I said this, and as I suspected, she told me she already had cum once.

We went through a standard repertoire, she provided a light BJ (w / someone new, I am careful what I allow since I don't know how intense they are going to be) and I returned the favor orally. Many more Os for her, I like to explore my girls, G-spot and cervix massages are usually well appreciated. When I finally suited up and started her missionary, her cooch was a perfect match for me. I am 6 feet+, and proportional, so a tiny girl can be an issue. I find the petite MILFs get stretched just the right amount to be warm wet and cozy but not shouting into Grand Canyon. I had a FC w / a 20's girl about a year ago, and when I was fingering her, I could barely get 1 finger in to the second knuckle. When she begged me to fuck her, my reaction was 'how is this going to work?' Actually I was able to get junior in, but she was way tight of course, and that wasn't a recipe for a marathon. I would have wanted to see her again, she was very beautiful (firm breasts), but she was one-and-done, her choice.

Anyway, lots of fun w / Barbie, got way deep when she put her ankles on my shoulders, she is cumming all the while, I slide her 90° and go in sideways, she says that hits her clit. I flip her on over to get in from behind, which gets pretty intense for me. A pause then let me get her on top and I just told her to go for it so we both came that way. I looked at the clock, time flew, we'd been at it over an hour, and I had to run for an appointment.

I'll definitely see this girl again, she's sweet, and I can have her weekly for about 1 K / mo. It fits my budget, and my situation is best addressed by a regular. BTW, I found out essentially everything about her IRL because she wasn't that savvy about security, etc. , something that is an insurance policy for me and a little different than many on seeking.

[Mile22]

Every time I see you post pics of new girls it makes me want to join SA, but then I think there is no way there can be any girls left. And then you post more pics of girls you are in negotiations with. My god you rock. I am being left behind LOL.Pro tip:

Search by "Newest" in the sorting criteria.

More likely than not you'll be able to start a dialogue with a girl before she gets pursued by the horde.

[HollywoodGuy]

Every time I see you post pics of new girls it makes me want to join SA, but then I think there is no way there can be any girls left. And then you post more pics of girls you are in negotiations with. My god you rock. I am being left behind LOL.There are an unlimited number of girls on there, many far hotter than the ones I post. Those are just the $ girls. The $$ girls are even better. And the $$$ girls are off the hook. Also if you are like me and hide profiles, here is the link to retrieve them. I post about 1% of the girls on there at best. Maybe less, like way less.

https://www.seeking.com/settings/hidden-members

[HollywoodGuy]

Weekend update.

1 - turns out she shuttles between vegas and LA - UTR - down for anything but kissing
2 - basically went cold on me
3 - awesome txting, sent me a video of her singing, very sexy. maybe this weekend.
4 - new POT - UTR - not really my type - the only thing she asked was when I was free
5 - the not so new little girl - better be here tomorrow - and now lives just 3 miles away

[HollywoodGuy]

Must be bored tonite. My GF the fitness model. 5'5' and 106. shes gained 2 lbs in the 6 years I have known her. Never works out and is addicted to pizza. lol.. I know when she moves out (one day), I ll miss her.

[HollywoodGuy]

18 and thick. No reply to my offer yet.

[HollywoodGuy]

Waiting for my not so new little girls live in SD to go out so I can go scoop her up. So beware guys, even if you live with the girl she could be stepping out. Now maybe he doesn't even care (and I believe that is the case), as long as she is discreet. This girl has a high sex drive, nothing I do will stop him from getting his share. To my knowledge I have worn her pussy out maybe once. But that was during our trip to mexico, when I was hitting it 2+ hours a day for a few days.

Me personally, I am not the jealous type, give me mine and I don't care who gets theirs.

[HollywoodGuy]

A genuine amazon beauty.

https://www.seeking.com/member/67f814fb-640d-4803-b545-e170e945ef5c

[HollywoodGuy]

A new approach I have been trying lately. The conversation just goes something like this. I'm cool, your're pretty, I pay $ for your time. When they agree and ask where will we meet or what will we do on our date, (M&G may or may not be included) ,I just say we will meet at a motel. End of discussion. Had a few tell me OK.

This approach has a lot of advantages and is not for everyone (as no approach is). But right now my GF and my not so new little girl take up 80%+ of my time. So for me its a good approach.

[HollywoodGuy]

Petite bombshell.

https://www.seeking.com/member/ce1df70f-4ba1-49a3-804c-bb64b95034ad

[SomeRandomGuy]

Some have said they are wanting help and in return a platonic friendship!! What is this of entitlement?? Curious how many idiots actually help for just some cute broad to hang out with you. Just wow.I've talked to a few, and I think it's just wishful thinking, as it sounds like they've had zero luck for the most part. One of them had a pretty good opportunity offered to them that fit their no physical intimacy requirement from some guy and they blew it.

[HollywoodGuy]

I've talked to a few, and I think it's just wishful thinking, as it sounds like they've had zero luck for the most part. One of them had a pretty good opportunity offered to them that fit their no physical intimacy requirement from some guy and they blew it.It's an urban legend. Or they have heard of some girl cashing in for doing nothing. Like you said, wishful thinking, and it's free to sign up, so why not give it a try. I actually know of some cases where there was no intercourse in the arrangement due to a medical issue. But there was still physical intimacy of other kinds. But zero physical, never heard of that, except guys being played.

[RanManCan]

I just signed up for a non-paid account on seeking. My search yields surprisingly small numbers.

Search:

Los Angeles.

50 miles.

18-30.

Only 6 of "about 58 results" logged in less than one week ago?

I haven't uploaded a picture or filled out my profile. Are many profiles only available to paid members?

What numbers do you guys get using the above filters only?

Thanks.

[RanManCan]

I just signed up for a non-paid account on seeking. My search yields surprisingly small numbers.

Search:

Los Angeles.

50 miles.

18-30.

Only 6 of "about 58 results" logged in less than one week ago?

I haven't uploaded a picture or filled out my profile. Are many profiles only available to paid members?

What numbers do you guys get using the above filters only?

Thanks.It was just a matter of getting my profile approved, I'm getting flooded, holy shit! Candy store.

[Large Ess]

Anyone tried this site? Xmeeting?

[HollywoodGuy]

I just signed up for a non-paid account on seeking. My search yields surprisingly small numbers.

Search:

Los Angeles.

50 miles.

18-30.

Only 6 of "about 58 results" logged in less than one week ago?

I haven't uploaded a picture or filled out my profile. Are many profiles only available to paid members?

What numbers do you guys get using the above filters only?

Thanks.Thousands.

[HollywoodGuy]

Anyone tried this site? Xmeeting?Save yourself the trouble.

[HollywoodGuy]

Weekend roundup.

1 - top of my list - 18 fresh. Wants to go on a real date before hitting the FC.
2 - says she is down for a $, but silent for the last 3 hours.
3 - goes MIA then favorites me today.
4 - says she is down, but then silent for the last 2 days.
5 - the rare white girl, waiting for her reply to my terms.
6 - not so new little girl.

Last weekend I got nothing new, but had some of the best sex ever from my not so new little girl.
Been seeing her once a week for 8 months now. I lost some real hotties lately that wanted $.5 or $$.
Bottom line, it's something to aspire to.

[HollywoodGuy]

Initially you just want to see if that $ a date even has a chance. (or $$ or whatever your budget allows).

ME
I pay $100 a date once we decide to start an arrangement (for an hour or more of your time).

HER
So you're offering $100 a date until we can get an arrangement figured out?

ME
Email me at blah@blahlah.com and I will send you a detailed message of what could be a first date.

Now we wait. Some get it right away, others don't.. most likely this one will fade away.

[HollywoodGuy]

I should be so lucky.

https://www.seeking.com/member/15689e0b-ae1e-4f57-ad1b-4a3905c01731

[HollywoodGuy]

I should be so lucky.

https://www.seeking.com/member/15689e0b-ae1e-4f57-ad1b-4a3905c01731I even offered her $1.5. No reply.

[HollywoodGuy]

Never equate a girls bedroom skills with her physical appearance. I just have to say it to keep myself from falling into the GPS trap. Any guy that's been with at least 10 girls in their life knows how true this is. This thread is supposed to be about getting what we want and for a reasonable rate ($-$$$) a date. Over that and with regular 2-3 times a week dating, and you have to be a higher income earner for sure. Unless you own your home outright, have no family obligations, company paid insurance, and no car payment

I have a friend that used to own a very large escort service. Large as in he usually had about 30-40 girls on call. He totally laughs at the the rates i tell him about. His minimum girl was $$$$$. And clients routinely racked up multi thousand dollar tabs a day. If you can spend money like that, you have no real need for this thread. But part of the fun is in finding something closer to a true GFE experience. In my case even if I wasn't obligated to spend a certain amount I would still take care of any girl i was with, if it was more than a one nite stand.

So we look for the happy medium between civi dating and a straight pay for play (half hour to an hour), no emotion experience. I know many non SD's scoff at what we do, and figure we are just getting played, and that the girls are just better actresses (and if thats all it was it would still be worth the time and effort). But don't knock it until you've tried it. Because that once or twice a year when you meet a girl and there are real feelings, you do feel on top of the world, and for far less than you would spend on an SO.

Being single all my SO's are SB's as I don't civi date at all. I've tried doing it on tinder but all I attract are old ladies and SB's. Hoping to meet one tomorrow (an SB not an old lady...lol)

[Statecho]

I have a burner phone for playing in the bowl, but my other phone is loaded w a FMF app and my kid and SO can locate me now.

What is the best way to avoid being tracked while going out to drinks and date in Notel? Leave the phone at work / gym or turn the phone off is not feasible. I can turn share my location off but will they get a alert / message when I do that, or it will simply show as my phone is off / no battery etc- which is easier to explain.

I bet this FMF app must have caused a tons of devoice😉.

Any input or suggestions.

[Large Ess]

Never equate a girls bedroom skills with her physical appearance. I just have to say it to keep myself from falling into the GPS trap. Any guy that's been with at least 10 girls in their life knows how true this is. This thread is supposed to be about getting what we want and for a reasonable rate ($-$$$) a date. Over that and with regular 2-3 times a week dating, and you have to be a higher income earner for sure. Unless you own your home outright, have no family obligations, company paid insurance, and no car payment

I have a friend that used to own a very large escort service. Large as in he usually had about 30-40 girls on call. He totally laughs at the the rates i tell him about. His minimum girl was $$$$$. And clients routinely racked up multi thousand dollar tabs a day. If you can spend money like that, you have no real need for this thread. But part of the fun is in finding something closer to a true GFE experience. In my case even if I wasn't obligated to spend a certain amount I would still take care of any girl i was with, if it was more than a one nite stand.

So we look for the happy medium between civi dating and a straight pay for play (half hour to an hour), no emotion experience. I know many non SD's scoff at what we do, and figure we are just getting played, and that the girls are just better actresses (and if thats all it was it would still be worth the time and effort). But don't knock it until you've tried it. Because that once or twice a year when you meet a girl and there are real feelings, you do feel on top of the world, and for far less than you would spend on an SO.

Being single all my SO's are SB's as I don't civi date at all. I've tried doing it on tinder but all I attract are old ladies and SB's. Hoping to meet one tomorrow (an SB not an old lady...lol)I agree 100%. I don't mind bigger women and the are usually incredible lovers. I still get emails from SB's I had years ago. When they are in town, they call. Like you I have tried the legit sites and no one is interested.

[Luv Big Tetas]

Saturday Night Date.

Tiny little latina spinner, in her late 20's.

New to the site, and obviously a civilian looking for a rich boyfriend. Not a professional at all.

This is the one I had to work the hardest, she was very skeptical about everything, but I just assured her that I could spoil her and make her life easier. We even had a Skype session because she wanted to verify what kind of house I live in and what kind of car I drive. This pretty much satisfied her that I am legit, and she was eager to meet Saturday night.

I had dinner reservations for us, and things did not go well at all. She wasn't nearly as friendly as she was when we Skyped, and it seems to me that she changed her mind at some point and just decided to get a free dinner out of it. Either that, or she took one look at me and changed her mind. She was quiet and distracted all throughout the date.

Nevertheless, I asked her near the end if she could see herself hooking up with me, and she just sort of shrugged and made a funny face. So I went for broke and asked her if she wants money to go up to my room with me, and she said she doesn't do that on the first date. Which really means she won't do it with ME.

Struck out. I was tempted to booty call one of the previous girls. However since I had already been laid that day, I decided to just have a few more cocktails, save up my juices and go to bed early.Dinner reservation is a big no-no if you've never met, it immediate changes the power dynamic, because you already committed an investment in both time and money. I always suggest that you make it a firm rule to meet either for a drink, or coffee. And even if it's for drinks, always pick a place, if she insists on one particular venue, especially if it's a high end spot. That's red flag # 1 that she's at the very least milking you.

[HollywoodGuy]

Dinner reservation is a big no-no if you've never met, it immediate changes the power dynamic, because you already committed an investment in both time and money. I always suggest that you make it a firm rule to meet either for a drink, or coffee. And even if it's for drinks, always pick a place, if she insists on one particular venue, especially if it's a high end spot. That's red flag # 1 that she's at the very least milking you.For me I have had mixed results, no guarantees, that's for sure. But sometimes you just want to go out. Right? Might as well be across from a hot girl instead of a co-worker.

[LessnessMan14]

I wanted to share a tip for paying for SA if you need to do so anonymously. There are tips in other forums for paying via an Android phone and google play. Similarly, if you don't have an Android phone, you can do a similar arrangement with an android emulator like Nox. You can load this on a laptop or other computer, install the SA app on the emulator, and then use your anonymous google account and a google play card to upgrade your SA membership. May not work for all but it did for me.

[HollywoodGuy]

I wanted to share a tip for paying for SA if you need to do so anonymously. There are tips in other forums for paying via an Android phone and google play. Similarly, if you don't have an Android phone, you can do a similar arrangement with an android emulator like Nox. You can load this on a laptop or other computer, install the SA app on the emulator, and then use your anonymous google account and a google play card to upgrade your SA membership. May not work for all but it did for me.I think this card works as well https://www.myvanillacard.com/home.html?country=US-en#!

[HollywoodGuy]

Wanted $$. I declined.

https://www.seeking.com/member/395c1a35-9b79-4705-a952-d5336edc0c46

[Madaboutmax]

I've met her when she was brand new to the site. Very real, very fun, very reasonable at that time. One of my better experiences off the site.


A genuine amazon beauty.

https://www.seeking.com/member/67f814fb-640d-4803-b545-e170e945ef5c

[FarFarAway]

I wanted to share a tip for paying for SA if you need to do so anonymously. There are tips in other forums for paying via an Android phone and google play. Similarly, if you don't have an Android phone, you can do a similar arrangement with an android emulator like Nox. You can load this on a laptop or other computer, install the SA app on the emulator, and then use your anonymous google account and a google play card to upgrade your SA membership. May not work for all but it did for me.Not having found those others (and just posted in the Richmond thread w / the question), can you describe using a Google Pay (not play?) card to pay for a membership on SA? Is the card available without personal info?

[GoldenMan]

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You knew you shouldn't post this, why didn't you put it in the fight thread? There is no non argumentative way to call somebody cheap.

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[HollywoodGuy]

Planned my whole day around seeing my girl at 4 pm today. She flakes and then wants me to come get her at 11 tonite. These girls don't always get that some people have an 8-4 life M-F. Go to bed on time and get up early. And getting mad isn't the solution. But it still sucks.

[GoldenMan]

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I'd say more, but the Admin doesn't like when I get uppity.

I'm not sure why you are using such racially derogatory language like that to describe my actions but what I don't like, regardless of who does it, is when people do stupid shit like this on review threads and not the fight thread.

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[Robertmm]

This sounds like more time and money invested than a regular relationship.

But to some the hunt is the most exiting part of this hobby.

The same reason why I keep going to hostess clubs every once in a while.

Is hitting it off with one of them.Yup, it does indeed take time and money to get to F / S with a girl from a hostess club. Sometimes you can make quite a bit of an investment with little return. That said, when it pays off (which more often than not it does) the return on the investment is well worth the time and money.

Only thing that comes close to the level of intimacy I've experienced from a hostess is finding an actual Sugar Baby on SA. Depending on the girl, I think hostess clubs could be cheaper than an SB but given the smaller number of clubs that may not be true anymore (less girls = higher prices). However if anonymity is important to you, hostess clubs are the way to go. Way too exposed on SA unless you invest in a burner phone, Prepaid credit card (for site membership which is way too high relative to 5/6 years ago- when I was doing SBs.), etc. Unless your stupid or don't care about anonymity, hostess clubs and extras are cash transactions so compromising your privacy shouldn't be as much of an issue.

For me, anonymity and a higher level of intimacy are what I want. Can't get the level of intimacy I want from a LMP or AMP and SA isn't anonymous enough for me which makes what's left of the hostess scene more attractive. Plus, as you mentioned, the thrill of the hunt is part of the fun too! Nothing beats the rush I get when a hostess who normally doesn't "date" gives in and the fun that starts when my investment pays off- how wet they get, the actual moans...

Still I spent way too much for a lot less than I wanted on my last trip to Fantasy so it may be time to dip back into SA and the sugar bowl. Could be time to brush up on burner phones, prepaid cards etc. LOL.

[HollywoodGuy]

My not so new little girl - photo shoot. 18 - 5'4" - 105