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Well, been around this hobby from day one. I've had them all. The hottest of the hotties.. The Julie, Million, Chanel, Nara, Mini, Kelly, etc. I think K-girls are the best bar none. The Viets and Chins girls, I tried them all out too but I still prefer them K-hotties. I have sampled or recon'd the service over looks girls = kison but they didn't truly satisfy the monger beast in me LOL. Now the hotties seem boring and the BBFS, P.S.E gals seem not hot enough. I recon'd most of the places not long ago and basically decided to go back home. I know I'm not the only veteran monger here with the same problem. How about it fellas? Discuss.We count our blessings is what we do. We do not take anything for granted. A fortuitous combination of circumstances, of history, culture, demographics, and location has given this American city the best AMPs for mongering in the country. But nothing is set in stone or guaranteed. There are people whose primary purpose in life is to see the AMPs disappear. One is running for congress, and her victory would be an existential threat to the whole AMP system. So I count my blessings. If you are jaded, then away for awhile. But do not take anything for granted.
Well, been around this hobby from day one. I've had them all. The hottest of the hotties.. The Julie, Million, Chanel, Nara, Mini, Kelly, etc. I think K-girls are the best bar none. The Viets and Chins girls, I tried them all out too but I still prefer them K-hotties. I have sampled or recon'd the service over looks girls = kison but they didn't truly satisfy the monger beast in me LOL. Now the hotties seem boring and the BBFS, P.S.E gals seem not hot enough. I recon'd most of the places not long ago and basically decided to go back home. I know I'm not the only veteran monger here with the same problem. How about it fellas? Discuss.I agree master genji san. Hehe. It happens though when you been around the block and you don't get as easily excited now compared to when you first started as a noob. You also tend to compare the looks and service level of the providers you had before to the providers now. A provider maybe young and looks pretty but, her service level is just mild / conservative that you don't bother. Another provider may offer alot on the menu but then, you not attracted enough to her looks. This sounds like how the hostess bars are now. Same thing. However, I'm still glad to know that they are still there though.
I agree master genji san. Hehe. It happens though when you been around the block and you don't get as easily excited now compared to when you first started as a noob. You also tend to compare the looks and service level of the providers you had before to the providers now. A provider maybe young and looks pretty but, her service level is just mild / conservative that you don't bother. Another provider may offer alot on the menu but then, you not attracted enough to her looks. This sounds like how the hostess bars are now. Same thing. However, I'm still glad to know that they are still there though.My man, brother Uki, the legend LOL. I can't say that your assessment is not accurate. I guess we need to just keep our ears on the ground and keep on trying what the AMPs have to offer.
We count our blessings is what we do. We do not take anything for granted. A fortuitous combination of circumstances, of history, culture, demographics, and location has given this American city the best AMPs for mongering in the country. But nothing is set in stone or guaranteed. There are people whose primary purpose in life is to see the AMPs disappear. One is running for congress, and her victory would be an existential threat to the whole AMP system. So I count my blessings. If you are jaded, then away for awhile. But do not take anything for granted.Hmm. I see wisdom in your words. I do realize that "lucky we live hawaii". I would not call it being jaded though. Perhaps, I need to be more patient that another gem is around the corner.
I hear you bro. I've been asking myself the same question too but for different reasons and circumstances. I've been in a funk for the past couple weeks. I know what I should do to get out of it and was ready to do it but everyday I waver on what to do and it's killing me. I thought I was a lot stronger than that, but my resolve is weak. Idk if it's the holidays or not. Maybe I got to find myself a new hobby like lawn bowling or knitting *yawn* LOL.LOL, cheers man. Other hobbies you say? Once you're in this hobby, that's it. In for life!
How about Vivian and Olivia?Thank you for the suggestions brother L1234! I have seen the Vivi and have repeated multiple times. Out of respect to her fans, suffice to say that she no longer does it for me which is unfortunate since she had potential. I haven't seen Olivia but I do remember reading good things about her in the 7 and CDS thread and from other monger bros via PM. She's on the recon list for sure.
New Heavy Chev
11-24-13, 05:21
Prostitution will always be relatively tolerated in Hawaii or else their would be trouble on the islands. (The same reason the USA government will continue to give welfare to poor people so they'll have something to eat to keep them from revolting against the government).
(They'll make token laws here and there to satisfy the hypocritical "moralists" and crusaders though).
On the Korean grapevine it's known that Hawaii is a good place to work in the relaxation business. However, they also know that the one mandatory requirement to work here is a greencard. That's the shit they're absolutely strict about here.
I heard in Cali that they got the younger no GC girls working there. I don't know if that's for true but that's what an AMP girl here told me. However, I've only been to one AMP in Cali in my life and I didn't see no young girls. (I had went to an AMP in Hollywood I found in their equivalent of the Pennysaver. And it was an older Korean lady I got. And she wanted the tip upfront for FS. And I explained to her that I'm from Hawaii and we tip after at the relaxation where I'm from. And she retorted that this isn't Hawaii, it's California. And I replied, "Yeah, but I'm from Hawaii. I do it Hawaiian style". So I only ended up getting a massage for the house fee).
Korean wireless says that LE visited Nirvana and Roses, after midnight last Friday. No details, as the AMP's don't like to talk about it. Maybe they think it will scare away the mongers. Personally, I think those places are the safest right after LE raids them.
Korean wireless says that LE visited Nirvana and Roses, after midnight last Friday. No details, as the AMP's don't like to talk about it. Maybe they think it will scare away the mongers. Personally, I think those places are the safest right after LE raids them.Why would it be not safe anytime? Did LE plant an undercover cop as a provider who would bust you for soliciting? Do you have an outstanding warrant for your arrest? If not, why worry about anything.
Lowlys One
11-28-13, 05:36
Prostitution will always be relatively tolerated in Hawaii or else their would be trouble on the islands. (The same reason the USA government will continue to give welfare to poor people so they'll have something to eat to keep them from revolting against the government).
(They'll make token laws here and there to satisfy the hypocritical "moralists" and crusaders though).
On the Korean grapevine it's known that Hawaii is a good place to work in the relaxation business. However, they also know that the one mandatory requirement to work here is a greencard. That's the shit they're absolutely strict about here.
I heard in Cali that they got the younger no GC girls working there. I don't know if that's for true but that's what an AMP girl here told me. However, I've only been to one AMP in Cali in my life and I didn't see no young girls. (I had went to an AMP in Hollywood I found in their equivalent of the Pennysaver. And it was an older Korean lady I got. And she wanted the tip upfront for FS. And I explained to her that I'm from Hawaii and we tip after at the relaxation where I'm from. And she retorted that this isn't Hawaii, it's California. And I replied, "Yeah, but I'm from Hawaii. I do it Hawaiian style". So I only ended up getting a massage for the house fee).Back then, the years leading up to the battle of the Pacific (ww 2), we had a buildup of troops here on the island in anticipation of the Japanese offensive. They'd get stationed here, awaiting for orders into the theater, 18,19 year olds thousands of mile from home, in their minds they were about to be thrown into a world war (they were right), but for the time they were here (over a million soldiers rotated in and out of the islands for the duration of the war) it was considered rest and relaxation until further notice. The military (federal government) were having trouble with the state police over the soldiers behaviors, state police and locals were upset with these red necks coming here getting blasted, hitting on all the women, fist fighting with the men and other behaviors leading to arrest (which put a heavy workload on the state ploice, which they didn't appreciate), finally the military (federal government) under pressure from state officials, came up with a proactive effort, mainly included an unofficial sequesturing of the soldier to the chinatown district, which included sending the mp's (military police) to places where soldiers were known to hang out (same places they were arrested), the bars and brothels (chinatown), soon after the mp's arrived their pro active approach lead them to become the security at the brothels, this way they were now in charge of the soldiers behaviors (to appease the state police) or at least take care of their "own", which also meant keeping them out of state courts as well (they were losing soldiers due to court concerns), after a few years of this the state officials caught wind of this "arrangement" the mp's had with the brothel owners and became upset and annoyed and worst of all, were making noise, the kind of which the military (federal government) did not need as sentiments from the locals toward the military were already strained, with the history of Hawaii (monarchy), the military invasion, treatment of locals by soldiers and now this the mp's (fedral government) were running the brothels, the military could not be involved with the brothels in any way, they feared that would be the last straw, so the mp's were instructed to hand over the brothels to the staste police in particular they were handed over to a special group of state police, the "vice and virtue unit" were their names and what later became known as honolulu vice squad and is now known as the see. Are. You. (crime reduction unit). So you are right prostutition in Hawaii has been tolerated even regulated by the mp's (that's our federal government), they came up with the standard fee a provider could make off of one soldier, I mean off of a "john", now as for the reason why it's been tolerated here is up for debate, would people here be upset more than any other state in the union? Can't see why we would be, what could we possibly say, what's grounds could we be upset about, if it's the law were upset about we would be on our lawmakers besides wouldn't we have done something by now? I don't think they are afraid of revolt but prostitution and the running of them have been run by law enforcement be it federal and or state, many of whom have retired now. From law enforcement anyway.
Back then, the years leading up to the battle of the Pacific (ww 2), we had a buildup of troops here on the island in anticipation of the Japanese offensive. They'd get stationed here, awaiting for orders into the theater, 18,19 year olds thousands of mile from home, in their minds they were about to be thrown into a world war (they were right), but for the time they were here (over a million soldiers rotated in and out of the islands for the duration of the war) it was considered rest and relaxation until further notice. The military (federal government) were having trouble with the state police over the soldiers behaviors, state police and locals were upset with these red necks coming here getting blasted, hitting on all the women, fist fighting with the men and other behaviors leading to arrest (which put a heavy workload on the state ploice, which they didn't appreciate), finally the military (federal government) under pressure from state officials, came up with a proactive effort, mainly included an unofficial sequesturing of the soldier to the chinatown district, which included sending the mp's (military police) to places where soldiers were known to hang out (same places they were arrested), the bars and brothels (chinatown), soon after the mp's arrived their pro active approach lead them to become the security at the brothels, this way they were now in charge of the soldiers behaviors (to appease the state police) or at least take care of their "own", which also meant keeping them out of state courts as well (they were losing soldiers due to court concerns), after a few years of this the state officials caught wind of this "arrangement" the mp's had with the brothel owners and became upset and annoyed and worst of all, were making noise, the kind of which the military (federal government) did not need as sentiments from the locals toward the military were already strained, with the history of Hawaii (monarchy), the military invasion, treatment of locals by soldiers and now this the mp's (fedral government) were running the brothels, the military could not be involved with the brothels in any way, they feared that would be the last straw, so the mp's were instructed to hand over the brothels to the staste police in particular they were handed over to a special group of state police, the "vice and virtue unit" were their names and what later became known as honolulu vice squad and is now known as the see. Are. You. (crime reduction unit). So you are right prostutition in Hawaii has been tolerated even regulated by the mp's (that's our federal government), they came up with the standard fee a provider could make off of one soldier, I mean off of a "john", now as for the reason why it's been tolerated here is up for debate, would people here be upset more than any other state in the union? Can't see why we would be, what could we possibly say, what's grounds could we be upset about, if it's the law were upset about we would be on our lawmakers besides wouldn't we have done something by now? I don't think they are afraid of revolt but prostitution and the running of them have been run by law enforcement be it federal and or state, many of whom have retired now. From law enforcement anyway.All this may be true, and we can add more color found online, such as the 3 min sessions and the scandal caused by one provider moving into an upscale neighborhood. The difference between then and now is militant feminism, and organized rescue groups federally funded in bed with church ladies, vested interests of fund raising based on propaganda of coercion and trafficking. Resulting in a twisted scenario where the lack of coercion and human trafficking among the Asian women is seen as a threat to the fundraising model rather than something that is good. Then you only had prudish church ladies. Now nobody cares about prudish church ladies, but they fund the operations of uncompromising and fanatical militant ideologues with organized propaganda, friends in the media and politically correct support. There is only so much Tracy Ryan of the Hawaii Libertarian party and her colleagues could do to withstand this prohibition juggernaut. So do not be complacent and take things for granted based on history.
Lonely Smiles
12-01-13, 04:33
Alright gents, here are my cliff notes / recon from having more sex in the past 3 months than I've had in my entire life up to this point:
The good:
Kelly. Ichiban (great over all GFE, TS second to none, review in Ichiban thread).
Lee / Sugar. Empire (My ATF, just back from NY, she used to work at Mayflower as 'Lee'. Full review in Empire thread, YMMV).
Happy. Kison (great experience if you are looking for GFE / P.S.E w / BB everything. Review in Kison thread).
Yuki. Tokyo Spa (provides a very memorable B2 B TS, up there with Kelly's. Yuki also has a very young innocent look to her and a pretty face. However, she is quite petite and you can tell when she is sore or would rather not have another cock inside her. Bigger is not better with her).
And everyone else:
Vivian. Mayflower (6 times, Russian roulette with this one. Sometimes awesome, other times cold and distant. See review on Mayflower thread).
Chanel. Empire (to satisfy my curiosity about greek, would not repeat. She was also sick with a bad cold when I went to see her. I should have left).
2 girls at Sunflower (Mia and one I forget. Neither memorable. Both sessions were short, once I popped they cleaned me up and there was no cuddling etc after).
Olivia. China Doll Spa (10 on looks, but has rules, doesn't like kissing, and was mechanical with me. Would not repeat).
Julie. China Doll Spa (also great looks, the new pictures are actually her, better service than Olivia, but really not the GFE I was looking for. Only LFK and the table shower had 0 body to body. So meh).
Skye. Ichiban (older, not as attractive as Kelly. However, great service including BBFSCIP x 2, and a reasonable TS. Just ultimately not my type. I don't think I'll repeat).
Maya x2. Independent in CC (technically they rotate girls, so you won't really know who you are getting until you show up the appointment. Ok sessions, Maya was actually my very first foray into the AMP world, I was so nervous I lost my erection LOL).
I think I've reached the point where I will go with a sure thing vs. Trying to explore further. I've had more sessions where I wish I had saved my money. However, with my top 4 and my ATF in particular, its definitely time and money well spent. Happy hunting gents.
Alright gents, here are my cliff notes / recon from having more sex in the past 3 months than I've had in my entire life up to this point:
The good:
Kelly. Ichiban (great over all GFE, TS second to none, review in Ichiban thread).
Lee / Sugar. Empire (My ATF, just back from NY, she used to work at Mayflower as 'Lee'. Full review in Empire thread, YMMV).
Happy. Kison (great experience if you are looking for GFE / P.S.E w / BB everything. Review in Kison thread).
Yuki. Tokyo Spa (provides a very memorable B2 B TS, up there with Kelly's. Yuki also has a very young innocent look to her and a pretty face. However, she is quite petite and you can tell when she is sore or would rather not have another cock inside her. Bigger is not better with her).
And everyone else:
Vivian. Mayflower (6 times, Russian roulette with this one. Sometimes awesome, other times cold and distant. See review on Mayflower thread).
Chanel. Empire (to satisfy my curiosity about greek, would not repeat. She was also sick with a bad cold when I went to see her. I should have left).
2 girls at Sunflower (Mia and one I forget. Neither memorable. Both sessions were short, once I popped they cleaned me up and there was no cuddling etc after).
Olivia. China Doll Spa (10 on looks, but has rules, doesn't like kissing, and was mechanical with me. Would not repeat).
Julie. China Doll Spa (also great looks, the new pictures are actually her, better service than Olivia, but really not the GFE I was looking for. Only LFK and the table shower had 0 body to body. So meh).
Skye. Ichiban (older, not as attractive as Kelly. However, great service including BBFSCIP x 2, and a reasonable TS. Just ultimately not my type. I don't think I'll repeat).
Maya x2. Independent in CC (technically they rotate girls, so you won't really know who you are getting until you show up the appointment. Ok sessions, Maya was actually my very first foray into the AMP world, I was so nervous I lost my erection LOL).
I think I've reached the point where I will go with a sure thing vs. Trying to explore further. I've had more sessions where I wish I had saved my money. However, with my top 4 and my ATF in particular, its definitely time and money well spent. Happy hunting gents.So you went on a binge and got it out of your system. It is time to step back and evaluate if you want to continue down this road. There will be no happy ending if it became an addiction. Make sure you have a realistic budget and stick to it.
Lonely Smiles
12-02-13, 01:16
So you went on a binge and got it out of your system. It is time to step back and evaluate if you want to continue down this road. There will be no happy ending if it became an addiction. Make sure you have a realistic budget and stick to it.Yeah, solid advice. You are spot on about being careful that it doesn't turn into a full on addiction. Thanks.
New Heavy Chev
12-02-13, 09:04
I was reading in the Tokyo Spa thread about providers who got the stink booty hole. These AMP girls need to wash their ass after they shit. I liked Aki at Roses my first 2 times with her but the 3rd time with her killed the joy. She got in a 69 position and it smelled like shit literally. So I wasn't interested in her no more after that session.
And fresh breath too. Brush those teeth and tongues bytches.
About AMPs becoming addictive. That can be the case as I know. It's a fantasy world where a sexy Asian chick in lingerie or a bikini walks in the room. And then she gets naked and does something strange for a little bit of change. So yeah, I've spent a lot of kala in the AMPs. (But not enough to cause any major problems with my finances). So thru experience I learned that it's about being able to control the urge to splurge and AMPing in a controlled manner.
And about these people who got a problem with AMPs. These "do-gooders" out there who try to force their way of thinking onto everyone else need to mind their own business and work on improving their own shitty lives instead. (That won't happen though). As long as it's a transaction between consenting adults then it's all good. (And that's all I've ever witnessed at the AMPs in Hawaii: a prostitute who wants to make fast money and me wanting to have convenient sex in exchange for her fee. It's a win-win situation as far I'm concerned).
However, I do think AMPs will be relatively tolerated in Hawaii due to our geographic isolation no matter what these "do gooders" try to pull. Because all the AMPs know the rules of the game. (For example that girls without GCs cannot work in the AMPs here). And they get checked on often enough. But then again, you never know with how the government tries to make a public enemy out of whatever they choose at the time. (To divert the public's attention from all the other phucked up shit going on). Just my opinion.
Idusixtyning
12-02-13, 12:07
I was reading in the Tokyo Spa thread about providers who got the stink booty hole. These AMP girls need to wash their ass after they shit. I liked Aki at Roses my first 2 times with her but the 3rd time with her killed the joy. She got in a 69 position and it smelled like shit literally. So I wasn't interested in her no more after that session.
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And about these people who got a problem with AMPs. These "do-gooders" out there who try to force their way of thinking onto everyone else need to mind their own business and work on improving their own shitty lives instead. (That won't happen though). As long as it's a transaction between consenting adults then it's all good. (And that's all I've ever witnessed at the AMPs in Hawaii: a prostitute who wants to make fast money and me wanting to have convenient sex in exchange for her fee. It's a win-win situation as far I'm concerned).
However, I do think AMPs will be relatively tolerated in Hawaii due to our geographic isolation no matter what these "do gooders" try to pull. Because all the AMPs know the rules of the game. (For example that girls without GCs cannot work in the AMPs here). And they get checked on often enough. But then again, you never know with how the government tries to make a public enemy out of whatever they choose at the time. (To divert the public's attention from all the other phucked up shit going on). Just my opinion.I second that on providers washing their okole after shitting. I've had that happen more than once in DS and it sure takes away the pleasure of the moment.
If the "do gooders" succeed in influencing government to shut down AMPs, then the AMPs or providers will simply go underground as there will always be a demand for their services. The only thing is that they will be more exclusive, smaller operations and most likely cost more. The top places or providers would probably be selective about their clients and only take good clients that are referred or screened. But providers will be around just like in any larger city in the US. For LE here, it is probably to their advantage to have AMPs in the open so that it is easier for them to monitor and control versus it going underground. Which is why I think it is left as is here.
Yeah, solid advice. You are spot on about being careful that it doesn't turn into a full on addiction. Thanks.I do that once in a great while too. When the funds are low and the bills need to get paid though, its back to the same ol S.O..that's why I like DT for the low (er) prices, but there are risks. Too many factors to mention.
I give the older braddahs props whoever get freebies. Congrats guys, you still on your mack A game!
H.
Kalihi Kid
04-14-14, 02:14
Even though some providers ask me to call ahead and make a reservation with them in advance, I believe it is just a waste of time unless you are just walking in the door. If you call a couple of hours ahead all you are doing is letting the girl know that she might have a customer at the reservation time. If another guy walks in the door 5 minutes before your appt time they mp take him because they won't take a chance that you will be a "no show". As they see it, if you do show up at the appt time then you should be willing to wait while they "finish up" with the guy who walked in earlier. If you are dumb enough to wait, what you get is sticky seconds. I would like to hear other guys views on the subject of making appointments and whether is is worth it to do so.
Honolulu808
04-14-14, 02:22
Even though some providers ask me to call ahead and make a reservation with them in advance, I believe it is just a waste of time unless you are just walking in the door. If you call a couple of hours ahead all you are doing is letting the girl know that she might have a customer at the reservation time. If another guy walks in the door 5 minutes before your appt time they mp take him because they won't take a chance that you will be a "no show". As they see it, if you do show up at the appt time then you should be willing to wait while they "finish up" with the guy who walked in earlier. If you are dumb enough to wait, what you get is sticky seconds. I would like to hear other guys views on the subject of making appointments and whether is is worth it to do so.If you are an unknown calling for an appointment sometimes that happens. When you call to make an appointment make sure the person on the phone knows who you are and that they have your phone number. Do not call any AMP with a blocked number, they tend to think one is calling around and most likely be a no show.
I usually make appointments no more than two hours ahead of time. When I do, I always call to confirm again right when I'm about to leave for the establishment and let Mama know I am leaving. Also, with the ones that you call frequently that know you, you absolutely "must" call if you can't make it, but also when you might be just slightly late. It establishes a reputation that they can depend on you and honor your appointments.
I've only had two this year go awry. One was a legitimate mix up of two people taking an appointment for Monica--and she personally apologized to me with real regret. The other was not so nice though. That was when the Nirvana Mama extended a monger's session with Happy. That is totally unacceptable and I have yet to see either Happy or go to Nirvana again.
YoungIn808
04-14-14, 10:18
Just to chime in, I have made appointments at various places. Over time, I've built up a "reputation" of sorts to be at said appointment time. I usually make the appointment within an hour for obvious reasons. In my personal experiences I have yet to have any problems. All the places I've called honored my time if the provider was available. There were a few times I tried to set up a time for a popular provider to no avail. Not due to the MS or provider, but rather a conflict of schedule. I have even had a place call me to "check up" on me due to being out of the hobby for a bit, which I thought was both funny and sweet. Feel free to PM me if you have any questions about any of the places I've posted on. Peace.
Idusixtyning
04-14-14, 11:43
Even though some providers ask me to call ahead and make a reservation with them in advance, I believe it is just a waste of time unless you are just walking in the door. If you call a couple of hours ahead all you are doing is letting the girl know that she might have a customer at the reservation time. If another guy walks in the door 5 minutes before your appt time they mp take him because they won't take a chance that you will be a "no show". As they see it, if you do show up at the appt time then you should be willing to wait while they "finish up" with the guy who walked in earlier. If you are dumb enough to wait, what you get is sticky seconds. I would like to hear other guys views on the subject of making appointments and whether is is worth it to do so.If you talk to the mamas and providers, there are quite a few guys that make an appointment and either fail to show up or cancels later. As much as 50% of the time. Causes lost money for the providers when they hold that time slot and a dude does not honor the appointment. Even if a dude calls to cancel, it still blocked out that time slot if others called afterwards to make an appointment at that time. Those guys are the ones that ruin things for the honest mongerers. Just establish yourself as a known customer and make it known if you make an appointment and get booted that you will never, ever come back. Also make it known that you will tell all of your friends too. But you have to honor your appointments and not cancel too. I think what Hypo does about calling again to confirm is a great thing to do. It also helps reassure the provider that you will be there.
Cosmic Kid
04-14-14, 20:44
Even though some providers ask me to call ahead and make a reservation with them in advance, I believe it is just a waste of time unless you are just walking in the door. If you call a couple of hours ahead all you are doing is letting the girl know that she might have a customer at the reservation time. If another guy walks in the door 5 minutes before your appt time they mp take him because they won't take a chance that you will be a "no show". As they see it, if you do show up at the appt time then you should be willing to wait while they "finish up" with the guy who walked in earlier. If you are dumb enough to wait, what you get is sticky seconds. I would like to hear other guys views on the subject of making appointments and whether is is worth it to do so.Depends on when you go too. I always set up appointments. But I monger in late morning when it tends to be slow for the AMPs. So I have never lost my appointment due to another brother showing up and wanting the same provider I had booked time with.
Kalihi Kid
04-15-14, 01:01
Thanks for the great exchange of ideas and input regarding making appointments. Here is another subject I would like to put out for group discussion. The other night I went to see my favs. I like her because of her attitude and great service. As usual MS showed me into the room and asked me to wait a few minutes. I thought she might be just finishing a meal but as I was waiting I recognized my provider's voice in another room. She was obviously servicing another customer. That didn't bother me a first but as I sat there contemplating my navel I began to imagine what was going down in the next room over. Finally, I hear her escort her client out and within 2 minutes she knocks on my door and is standing in front of me greeting me with her usual smile and friendly "Hello, But I felt different this time because I positively knew she was just servicing another guy just a few minutes ago. The thought of performing DATY and what I might encounter started to bother me. I am sure I probably did it many times and never knew it. At the end of a good night she probably serviced as many as 20 guys before me and I still had no problem going down on her. But this time I felt a little disgusted at the thought. I tried to be polite and I asked my provider if she would like to take a break and let one of the other girls who needed some business service me instead. She completely misunderstood me and thought I was upset at having to wait for her. Rather than explain how I felt I just told her I changed my mind and left. I would like to hear from other guys whether or not there should be something like a cooling off period before a provider should service her next customer? Or is it the consensus that it is OK to use the same hole within a few minutes of another customer?
Thanks for the great exchange of ideas and input regarding making appointments. Here is another subject I would like to put out for group discussion. The other night I went to see my favs. I like her because of her attitude and great service. As usual MS showed me into the room and asked me to wait a few minutes. I thought she might be just finishing a meal but as I was waiting I recognized my provider's voice in another room. She was obviously servicing another customer. That didn't bother me a first but as I sat there contemplating my navel I began to imagine what was going down in the next room over. Finally, I hear her escort her client out and within 2 minutes she knocks on my door and is standing in front of me greeting me with her usual smile and friendly "Hello, But I felt different this time because I positively knew she was just servicing another guy just a few minutes ago. The thought of performing DATY and what I might encounter started to bother me. I am sure I probably did it many times and never knew it. At the end of a good night she probably serviced as many as 20 guys before me and I still had no problem going down on her. But this time I felt a little disgusted at the thought. I tried to be polite and I asked my provider if she would like to take a break and let one of the other girls who needed some business service me instead. She completely misunderstood me and thought I was upset at having to wait for her. Rather than explain how I felt I just told her I changed my mind and left. I would like to hear from other guys whether or not there should be something like a cooling off period before a provider should service her next customer? Or is it the consensus that it is OK to use the same hole within a few minutes of another customer?I think that ms should never schedule some one back to back. A provider should be given time to clean up / freshen up before seeing her next client. Just my opinion. What do I know? I've never run a business.
Even though some providers ask me to call ahead and make a reservation with them in advance, I believe it is just a waste of time unless you are just walking in the door. If you call a couple of hours ahead all you are doing is letting the girl know that she might have a customer at the reservation time. If another guy walks in the door 5 minutes before your appt time they mp take him because they won't take a chance that you will be a "no show". As they see it, if you do show up at the appt time then you should be willing to wait while they "finish up" with the guy who walked in earlier. If you are dumb enough to wait, what you get is sticky seconds. I would like to hear other guys views on the subject of making appointments and whether is is worth it to do so.It helps if the person on the phone knows who you are. You're not some unknown random caller who might flake out and not show up. You know what you can do is instead of making an appointment, call to see if a certain provider you want to see is working that day / night just to confirm if she is there. Also, keep in mind that if she happens to be busy, is there another provider at that AMP that you wouldn't mind seeing as a backup? When you're on the phone, keep it short and sound nice / friendly / polite on the phone. What helps to is when you're very close to the AMP, call again to see if the provider is still available. The MS may hold the girl if she knows you're closeby and on your way there. On that day / night you decide to want to go to an AMP, compile a list of several providers on who you would consider seeing. Don't rely on 1 provider and book an appointment with just her alone. You don't want to drive the far distance only to find out that she's busy or not there. Be prepared just in case the appointment doesn't follow through.
I think that ms should never schedule some one back to back. A provider should be given time to clean up / freshen up before seeing her next client. Just my opinion. What do I know? I've never run a business.In a optimal universe the girls would have at least 1/2 hr between appointments to freshen up, grab a cigarette, rest or get something to snack on but that is not the case. The mamas are running a business to make money. They want to maximize as many bodies as they can going in and out their establishment. So what if a customer has to wait a few minutes or a provider hasn't had a break in 5 or 6 hours. Bottom line is the almighty dollar. But it would be nice for everyone concerned if they took that into consideration. We can dream can't we?
Aaron Colt
04-15-14, 03:10
Thanks for the great exchange of ideas and input regarding making appointments. Here is another subject I would like to put out for group discussion. The other night I went to see my favs. I like her because of her attitude and great service. As usual MS showed me into the room and asked me to wait a few minutes. I thought she might be just finishing a meal but as I was waiting I recognized my provider's voice in another room. She was obviously servicing another customer. That didn't bother me a first but as I sat there contemplating my navel I began to imagine what was going down in the next room over. Finally, I hear her escort her client out and within 2 minutes she knocks on my door and is standing in front of me greeting me with her usual smile and friendly "Hello, But I felt different this time because I positively knew she was just servicing another guy just a few minutes ago. The thought of performing DATY and what I might encounter started to bother me. I am sure I probably did it many times and never knew it. At the end of a good night she probably serviced as many as 20 guys before me and I still had no problem going down on her. But this time I felt a little disgusted at the thought. I tried to be polite and I asked my provider if she would like to take a break and let one of the other girls who needed some business service me instead. She completely misunderstood me and thought I was upset at having to wait for her. Rather than explain how I felt I just told her I changed my mind and left. I would like to hear from other guys whether or not there should be something like a cooling off period before a provider should service her next customer? Or is it the consensus that it is OK to use the same hole within a few minutes of another customer?I've gone back to back to back with girls within 5 min of each other and they don't seem to mind, why should we? I did a trifecta at MF one afternoon. Got to love to phuck.
I've gone back to back to back with girls within 5 min of each other and they don't seem to mind, why should we? I did a trifecta at MF one afternoon. Got to love to phuck.So was that a 3 cum trifecta or were you just building up for a major pop in the final session?
Aaron Colt
04-15-14, 08:23
So was that a 3 cum trifecta or were you just building up for a major pop in the final session?Popped each time, albeit, each time was longer and a little mo challenging than the first pop.
Thanks for the great exchange of ideas and input regarding making appointments. Here is another subject I would like to put out for group discussion. The other night I went to see my favs. I like her because of her attitude and great service. As usual MS showed me into the room and asked me to wait a few minutes. I thought she might be just finishing a meal but as I was waiting I recognized my provider's voice in another room. She was obviously servicing another customer. That didn't bother me a first but as I sat there contemplating my navel I began to imagine what was going down in the next room over. Finally, I hear her escort her client out and within 2 minutes she knocks on my door and is standing in front of me greeting me with her usual smile and friendly "Hello, But I felt different this time because I positively knew she was just servicing another guy just a few minutes ago. The thought of performing DATY and what I might encounter started to bother me. I am sure I probably did it many times and never knew it. At the end of a good night she probably serviced as many as 20 guys before me and I still had no problem going down on her. But this time I felt a little disgusted at the thought. I tried to be polite and I asked my provider if she would like to take a break and let one of the other girls who needed some business service me instead. She completely misunderstood me and thought I was upset at having to wait for her. Rather than explain how I felt I just told her I changed my mind and left. I would like to hear from other guys whether or not there should be something like a cooling off period before a provider should service her next customer? Or is it the consensus that it is OK to use the same hole within a few minutes of another customer?Alot of people think this. The sloppy seconds. It's like seeing her free / available on the couch as you walk in makes her appear to be cleaner / fresher. But, you really don't know how long she's been sitting on the couch. You could walk in 2 min after she just serviced a customer. It's just the thought of not knowing how long she's been on the couch makes it not seem as bad as oppose to when you wait for her and she finishes up a customer. You also think this as you wait for her in the room.
"Hmmm, I wonder what they are doing in the room?
This runs through your head as you wait for her. They are doing the same thing as what you would be doing with her. On top of that, they could be doing more things than what you do with her. But, she's not going to tell you because it will bother you if you did know. That is the reality of it. If you feel bothered by hygiene, you can check with her if she freshened up thoroughly by asking because they can half ass on the cleaning and just do a quick rinse with water. Sometimes they don't even bother to brush or even gargle. They forget. Also, they miss cleaning their armpits. I smelt a few and noticed BO. Damn. Heh, it's not like they'll thoroughly check and smell every area to confirm it's clean considering that they'll sweat and be splattered again.
Guys, if you want to see a particular lady at a particular time on a particular day, call and make an appointment. If you do t have a safe phone, just drop a quarter in a pay phone and do so. Ask ms if so and so is working, tell her your name and when you'll be there. Now, some mama's are better than others at appointments bing kept. Chanel at Kison is great at this. Can make an appointment days in advance with her and she writes it down. Others maybe not so good. If that's the case with your favorite establishment, make friends with the provider, ask her for her digits and make the appt directly with her as well as ms. And remember, if you can't make said appointment, call and notify ms ASAP. Don't just be a no show. Sure, you may be pissed because she forgets to schedule you like previously arrainged, but I'm pretty sure that we were all taught that 2 wrongs don't make a right. Again, some places will be better at making and keeping arriangments than others. When that's the case, just roll with it.
In a optimal universe the girls would have at least 1/2 hr between appointments to freshen up, grab a cigarette, rest or get something to snack on but that is not the case. The mamas are running a business to make money. They want to maximize as many bodies as they can going in and out their establishment. So what if a customer has to wait a few minutes or a provider hasn't had a break in 5 or 6 hours. Bottom line is the almighty dollar. But it would be nice for everyone concerned if they took that into consideration. We can dream can't we?You're right. I asked some of the girls who went indy, told me that when they worked for an AMP, the boss always pushed them for more & more. Obviously, some providers needs a break that is why some of the very famous ones left while they are in their peak.
You're right. I asked some of the girls who went indy, told me that when they worked for an AMP, the boss always pushed them for more & more. Obviously, some providers needs a break that is why some of the very famous ones left while they are in their peak.No doubt, some of the gals take on way too many fuck sessions. Fucking is awfully great stuff, but too much is like anything else.
No doubt, some of the gals take on way too many fuck sessions. Fucking is awfully great stuff, but too much is like anything else.Yeah! Which leads me wanting to share my experience to those of you who fall in love with providers. One time I was falling in love with a provider who I thought I could not live without but I also knew that I could not possibly have her as my wife. You know what I did, I fucked her 7 days straight. And on the 7th day someway; somehow she managed to hurt my feeling by saying something that offended me and of course, after so much sex, sex became not that special anymore with that person. And that was when I came back down to earth. I was SO happy that I got rid of my addiction to her. So my point to you is if you became addicted to sex; maybe go for it everyday until you got tired of it; then when you laydown at night, think about it of what has happened to you. Stay safe!
Yeah! Which leads me wanting to share my experience to those of you who fall in love with providers. One time I was falling in love with a provider who I thought I could not live without but I also knew that I could not possibly have her as my wife. You know what I did, I fucked her 7 days straight. And on the 7th day someway; somehow she managed to hurt my feeling by saying something that offended me and of course, after so much sex, sex became not that special anymore with that person. And that was when I came back down to earth. I was SO happy that I got rid of my addiction to her. So my point to you is if you became addicted to sex; maybe go for it everyday until you got tired of it; then when you laydown at night, think about it of what has happened to you. Stay safe!Hot as they are, some girls are headcases. When I find a good girl I tend to stick with her. I've repeated with girls only to have them think I was interested; they then refused to service me thereafter.
One girl took the time to explain how she couldn't be my GF or marry me. I looked at her like WTH. We talked a bit and 'cleared the air'; then at least I got to continue repeating with her after that.
Yeah! Which leads me wanting to share my experience to those of you who fall in love with providers. One time I was falling in love with a provider who I thought I could not live without but I also knew that I could not possibly have her as my wife. You know what I did, I fucked her 7 days straight. And on the 7th day someway; somehow she managed to hurt my feeling by saying something that offended me and of course, after so much sex, sex became not that special anymore with that person. And that was when I came back down to earth. I was SO happy that I got rid of my addiction to her.That much visits in 1 week she'll get the impression that you are getting obsessed and falling for her.
"Awww shit, him again? He must really like me".
It can make a provider feel uncomfortable having to deal with this especially when she doesn't look at you in the same way. To explain this in another way.
You have a female friend with benefits. There's mutual sex between you two. Later on, she starts getting clingy / emotional on you where she's looking at you as a possible BF. Now it's making things feel awkward / uncomfortable for you because you don't look at her in that way. You may not want to bother seeing her again because of this.
You're right. I asked some of the girls who went indy, told me that when they worked for an AMP, the boss always pushed them for more & more. Obviously, some providers needs a break that is why some of the very famous ones left while they are in their peak.Never heard of any providers who would have a better life going indie in Honolulu. It is not possible. The AMPs provide security without pimp extortion. No Asian anyway. Other girls should not even be in the AMPs. The popular Asian providers can control customer flow by not sleeping and living at the AMPs.
So since I finally came back to the islands I wanted to try treat myself to some nice action. I went to Nirvanna first since It was closer to me than any other place.
I had a girl named Ling ling (I think that's her show name but I'm not sure). I had an awesome time doing some action and she was nice, her English was a little rough but oh well. As time went on I totally enjoyed trying doing different positions with her and trying to get her to feel good. The only problem was that I didn't have a happy ending since I was left with a willy not being cooperative and I ran out of time (curse you time limit). The girl was sad that she couldn't help me but I told her it was fine.
So, I decided to head to another spot, 109 (tried to call Mayflower but they were busy) and tried Nikki (Other girl was busy and didn't want sloppy's right after). It was an okay time and it felt like she was kind of tired or not into it at the current moment when I was there. But afterwards, she totally got into the action and I kept fucking her. And willy still being a freaking piss douche and won't let me finish. I eventually ran out of time with the girl trying to give me a handjob as hard she can (I honestly thought she was going to rip it off).
I felt bad that I got both girls sad that they didn't help me. Finish.
So I need help from my fellow mongers to help me. How the hell do I fix this problem since I want to feel good and I don't want to be left hanging with a freaking blue balls for hours on end.
OH BTW. I didn't take any pills if you guys think I'm making this story up. I'm not. I don't take pills, nor any drinks and this equation doesn't make any sense to me.
I got a week left before I got to go back to the "Mainland. " So help a bro out.
I once made appt at Kison. Said I would be there in 30 min. Then like 20 min mama calls and says are you coming. I said yes and I got to see my girl. Mama told me another customer wanted my girl and she wanted to make sure I wouldn't flake. So appts do matter. At least at Kison.
It helps if the person on the phone knows who you are. You're not some unknown random caller who might flake out and not show up. You know what you can do is instead of making an appointment, call to see if a certain provider you want to see is working that day / night just to confirm if she is there. Also, keep in mind that if she happens to be busy, is there another provider at that AMP that you wouldn't mind seeing as a backup? When you're on the phone, keep it short and sound nice / friendly / polite on the phone. What helps to is when you're very close to the AMP, call again to see if the provider is still available. The MS may hold the girl if she knows you're closeby and on your way there. On that day / night you decide to want to go to an AMP, compile a list of several providers on who you would consider seeing. Don't rely on 1 provider and book an appointment with just her alone. You don't want to drive the far distance only to find out that she's busy or not there. Be prepared just in case the appointment doesn't follow through.
So I need help from my fellow mongers to help me. How the hell do I fix this problem since I want to feel good and I don't want to be left hanging with a freaking blue balls for hours on end. Here's a report that might help you solve the problem: "Man of Steel," message #49 (June 2) in the "Who do you see to get Viagra prescribed?" thread.
Here's a report that might help you solve the problem: "Man of Steel," message #49 (June 2) in the "Who do you see to get Viagra prescribed?" thread.Hey Thanks for the suggestion but I'm not looking for ways to stay longer. I need to find ways to finish near the end of my paid time.
I want to feel relieved and "Happy" when I'm with them. Not frustrated that willy doesn't want to help me out. Cause I stay strong for a long time even without the pills.
SO if I took the pills, I'll be man of steel v. 4 That won't fucking stop ever.
Little Dickie
07-16-14, 14:21
If you do t have a safe phone, just drop a quarter in a pay phone and do so. Where do you find a payphone that only takes a quarter?
In fact, where do you find a payphone? LOL.
AmpAddict808
07-17-14, 01:09
Hey Thanks for the suggestion but I'm not looking for ways to stay longer. I need to find ways to finish near the end of my paid time.
I want to feel relieved and "Happy" when I'm with them. Not frustrated that willy doesn't want to help me out. Cause I stay strong for a long time even without the pills.
SO if I took the pills, I'll be man of steel v. 4 That won't fucking stop ever.Maybe it's psychological in an AMP. Condoms could be the problem. Were you able to easily finish with past girlfriends with or without a condom? On the bright side, at least you don't have premature ejaculation as a problem.
Maybe it's psychological in an AMP. Condoms could be the problem. Were you able to easily finish with past girlfriends with or without a condom? On the bright side, at least you don't have premature ejaculation as a problem.I really don't know what the problem was. But I did have hard time with my previous girlfriend too since she complained that I took too long in sex or I made her feel extremely tired afterwards. I think I just might be sexually hungry. Also I suppose that's good. For now since I thought that might be a problem when I was younger. I wonder how long I can go without taking a break. I never really tested it yet but so far its 2 hours. I might have to go see a doctor if it pass 4.
Bulgogi Boy
07-17-14, 13:11
Wish I had your problem. I have that problem sometimes for the wrong reasons (stress, fatigue, poor diet, late hours, etc.).
I use a sensitivity gel with pretty good success. Vazogel is edible (hehe) and the girls seem to enjoy it if it's BBFS. Otherwise it goes on before the condom. Hope it might help you too.
So I need help from my fellow mongers to help me. How the hell do I fix this problem since I want to feel good and I don't want to be left hanging with a freaking blue balls for hours on end.
OH BTW. I didn't take any pills if you guys think I'm making this story up. I'm not. I don't take pills, nor any drinks and this equation doesn't make any sense to me.
I got a week left before I got to go back to the "Mainland. " So help a bro out.
Here's a report that might help you solve the problem: "Man of Steel," message #49 (June 2) in the "Who do you see to get Viagra prescribed?" thread.
Hey Thanks for the suggestion but I'm not looking for ways to stay longer. I need to find ways to finish near the end of my paid time.
I want to feel relieved and "Happy" when I'm with them. Not frustrated that willy doesn't want to help me out. Cause I stay strong for a long time even without the pills.
SO if I took the pills, I'll be man of steel v. 4 That won't fucking stop ever.Sorry for the misunderstanding. When you originally had said "I was left with a willy not being cooperative" and "willy still being a freaking piss douche and won't let me finish," I mistakenly thought that the problem involved an inability to maintain a sufficient erection. From your subsequent posts, however, it seems that the problem involves achieving orgasm and ejaculating within a reasonable time period. If I repeatedly had that problem and couldn't determine the solution, I think that I would make an appointment with a urologist who specializes in sexual dysfunction issues. With years of education, training and experience in those matters, that type of doctor may be able to identify a solution that we cannot.
Sorry for the misunderstanding. When you originally had said "I was left with a willy not being cooperative" and "willy still being a freaking piss douche and won't let me finish," I mistakenly thought that the problem involved an inability to maintain a sufficient erection. From your subsequent posts, however, it seems that the problem involves achieving orgasm and ejaculating within a reasonable time period. If I repeatedly had that problem and couldn't determine the solution, I think that I would make an appointment with a urologist who specializes in sexual dysfunction issues. With years of education, training and experience in those matters, that type of doctor may be able to identify a solution that we cannot.Nah it's cool dude. When I re-read it again, it does sound like I have erectile dysfunction so that was my mistake. Nonetheless thank you for the info, cause I do plan to visit one of those doctors to see if I have a issue regarding my health or I'm just a boss. Either way, thanks again.
NightWing24
11-20-14, 06:05
Trying something new before the end of 2014. I've been on / off in the AMP scene, and usually frequent places with younger talent. I was thinking of stepping out of my comfort zone, and sampling the talent from Kison & CHM, but don't know which cougar should be the lucky one. I've been to both places, but never quite followed through because I was pretty new to it all, and my expectations were quite high up there.
Last time, I went to Kison (about a year ago), I got I'd'ed thru the screen door, I'd'ed again when the mamasan let me, triple checked my age, and she gave me that look like I wasn't as old as I looked (sry, its because I'm asian, we all age slower LOL! And to top it off, I believe I wasn't having such a good day that day, so I pretty much apologized for the disturbance when she gave my I'd back, and had planned to go elsewhere, but I believe, I went home with my pockets full that day, hahaha!
My last time at CHM, was not so much better, can't even remember most of that night. Was partying somewhere near the area, went to CHM drunk as a skunk. Don't remember if I gave house fee or not, but ended up standing the cougar up. Last thing, I remembered was whoever she was, she was starting to flirt with me and asked if I was ok (ok as in ok to concentrate & play), I asked to go to the men's room real quick, and ended up walking out after taking a piss, and how I got home is still a mystery.
With that said, I know about their outstanding service at both places, but who should be the lucky cougar? Only expectation is: she be as close thing to a spinner as possible.
Only expectation is: she be as close thing to a spinner as possible.Because you desire "as close thing to a spinner as possible" at Kison or CHM, you might want to take a look at Honey of Kison (although she's younger than usual for Kison) and Ginger of CHM.
Trying something new before the end of 2014. I've been on / off in the AMP scene, and usually frequent places with younger talent. I was thinking of stepping out of my comfort zone, and sampling the talent from Kison & CHM, but don't know which cougar should be the lucky one. I've been to both places, but never quite followed through because I was pretty new to it all, and my expectations were quite high up there.
Last time, I went to Kison (about a year ago), I got I'd'ed thru the screen door, I'd'ed again when the mamasan let me, triple checked my age, and she gave me that look like I wasn't as old as I looked (sry, its because I'm asian, we all age slower LOL! And to top it off, I believe I wasn't having such a good day that day, so I pretty much apologized for the disturbance when she gave my I'd back, and had planned to go elsewhere, but I believe, I went home with my pockets full that day, hahaha!
My last time at CHM, was not so much better, can't even remember most of that night. Was partying somewhere near the area, went to CHM drunk as a skunk. Don't remember if I gave house fee or not, but ended up standing the cougar up. Last thing, I remembered was whoever she was, she was starting to flirt with me and asked if I was ok (ok as in ok to concentrate & play), I asked to go to the men's room real quick, and ended up walking out after taking a piss, and how I got home is still a mystery.
With that said, I know about their outstanding service at both places, but who should be the lucky cougar? Only expectation is: she be as close thing to a spinner as possible.One thing if you're those younger guys seeing an older provider is how they can service / pamper you in like a motherly way. Plus, they can be flattered that you see them considering that you are years younger.
"Wow! So cute this guy".
Not many cougars that are spinner types though. Pink at Kison if she was still there would have been a ideal option because she was petite. Monica at CHM is a spinner at 5'1. Michelle at CHM is on the petite side. But, not there yet. Hana at Tokyo Spa would be a hot cougar. Also, Donna at Tokyo Spa.
Even though some providers ask me to call ahead and make a reservation with them in advance, I believe it is just a waste of time unless you are just walking in the door. If you call a couple of hours ahead all you are doing is letting the girl know that she might have a customer at the reservation time. If another guy walks in the door 5 minutes before your appt time they mp take him because they won't take a chance that you will be a "no show". As they see it, if you do show up at the appt time then you should be willing to wait while they "finish up" with the guy who walked in earlier. If you are dumb enough to wait, what you get is sticky seconds. I would like to hear other guys views on the subject of making appointments and whether is is worth it to do so.I think they honor it if you've seen her before and you have her personal number. I've had one always be there and she texted me to make sure I was coming cause I think she could have grabbed a customer at that time if I wasn't. She had a great personality and very reliable for anything unlike most girls in the shady AMP game now days. Long gone now.
Just a throw out. Anyone have real pictures of some AMP providers out there? And I mean personal, not from ads. I had a few that got lost when I recently bought a new phone. Smh. I really had some good ones of the younger talent out there, I'm bummed.
Just a throw out. Anyone have real pictures of some AMP providers out there? And I mean personal, not from ads. I had a few that got lost when I recently bought a new phone. Smh. I really had some good ones of the younger talent out there, I'm bummed.How about anyone know of any current providers that allow picture taking? Thanks.
One thing if you're those younger guys seeing an older provider is how they can service / pamper you in like a motherly way. Plus, they can be flattered that you see them considering that you are years younger.
"Wow! So cute this guy".
Not many cougars that are spinner types though. Pink at Kison if she was still there would have been a ideal option because she was petite. Monica at CHM is a spinner at 5'1. Michelle at CHM is on the petite side. But, not there yet. Hana at Tokyo Spa would be a hot cougar. Also, Donna at Tokyo Spa.Monica is the ultimate cougar.
Monica is the ultimate cougar.Impressive that at her age she works out and has that body. She looked buffed last time I seen her at Kison. Can tell she was lifting weights cause her body had a pumped up look to it vs before where she was more slim.
Impressive that at her age she works out and has that body. She looked buffed last time I seen her at Kison. Can tell she was lifting weights cause her body had a pumped up look to it vs before where she was more slim.Just before she left for vacation, Michelle was getting pretty toned.
Cosmic Kid
11-25-14, 23:26
Monica is the ultimate cougar.Does Monica have massage skills?
Mondo Badfoot
12-01-14, 01:06
Does Monica have massage skills?Monica does great massage! She has so many skills!
Punanilicr
01-25-15, 15:13
With all of the new talent gracing our island, I think that it's time to remind the ladies of a little thing that they can do for us daty lovers. Please don't pre-lube. Don't excuse yourself post shower to go lube up before seeing your customer. Instead, bring the lube in the room and use it as needed, when needed. Many guys like to daty, and sometimes a mouth full of astroglide isn't what we want to taste. If we don't make you wet enough, then feel free to lube up before we go in, but give us a chance to make you naturally moist down there. Sure, even after a couple of "o's" from daty, you may want to apply a little to the condom because latex can be dry, but don't fill your punani before we even get to that point.
Thanks for listening, and Aloha.
With all of the new talent gracing our island, I think that it's time to remind the ladies of a little thing that they can do for us daty lovers. Please don't pre-lube. Don't excuse yourself post shower to go lube up before seeing your customer. Instead, bring the lube in the room and use it as needed, when needed. Many guys like to daty, and sometimes a mouth full of astroglide isn't what we want to taste. If we don't make you wet enough, then feel free to lube up before we go in, but give us a chance to make you naturally moist down there. Sure, even after a couple of "o's" from daty, you may want to apply a little to the condom because latex can be dry, but don't fill your punani before we even get to that point.
Thanks for listening, and Aloha.Amen to that. I constantly try to catch girls before they lube. Tell them I don't like to eat lube. Use later.
Don't you just hate it when some monger who was rejected by a girl accuses you of writing good reviews "because you're getting kickbacks or discounts?
When it's a well reviewed provider, she must be broke by now if that were the case. Some people just stoop to new lows all the time. SMMFH.
Lonely Smiles
03-12-15, 21:41
Don't you just hate it when some monger who was rejected by a girl accuses you of writing good reviews "because you're getting kickbacks or discounts?
When it's a well reviewed provider, she must be broke by now if that were the case. Some people just stoop to new lows all the time. SMMFH.For me, over time I've realized that all Mongers obtain different service. A combination of charisma, personality, chemistry, looks, confidence and even expectations about what constitutes 'good service' differ. After reading thousands of posts, I start to get a sense of which mongers tend to have experiences that are similar to my own, which mongers get better service, and which mongers seem to get the short end of the YMMV stick.
Example, if a new provider gets a glowing review from someone I know always gets amazing service no matter where he goes, I hold off waiting for more Intel from mongers in my part of the spectrum, so to speak. In the same way if I read a slightly negative report from a monger that reports bad service all over the place, I take it with a grain of salt and often give the girl the benefit of a doubt until I try her.
YMMV is real imo. As is TEHO, to each his own. Monger on!
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Atmatic123
03-13-15, 04:00
I consider myself the real test if a provider is really allstar worthy and treats everyone equally! I am NOT good looking by any means and have had bomb dud sessions with allstars such as Million the Julie (or whatever the fuck she calls herself now days) and Honey providers that other mongers swear on their life were all stars. Yaz is another all star that gave me mind blowing experience the fist time then my 3 sesh after were just a train wreck. Guessing because I'm not attractive and she already built up a steady clientelle that she decided to kick me to the way side. The legend Chanel one of my all time faves gives me good service she's a master of her craft but based on other monger reports I know I draw the short end of the stick alhhough the short end of the stick with chanel is still mind blowing LOL still I don't get the top nothc service as other mongers. Overall when I read provider reviews I usually wait a while before I partake because I know that ohter mongers are way more better looking then me and therefore are granted way better service. For me the only 2 providers it seems that you can always count on that will blow your mind and give top notch service regardless of how you look are Nara and Aki. Although I still have yet to partake in the legendary Happy LOL. But all other providers I feel there is a strong risk of YMMV depending on there mood, your physical appearance etc. For example Page is the hit right now but my last sesh with her was a dud, she kept pulling away from me when I tried to DFK and complained how tired she was. So yes I agree some mongers make it a point to bash every provider others seem to always get top service but for me I always try to post realistic reviews and a lot of times the provider ends up beign shallow and superfiicial example Vanilla another top allstar but when I saw her dud because I'm not good looking. So to my felllow mongers looks matter, if you are a decent or good looking guy then the odds are in your favor that you will have a mind blowing awesom sesh with the current allstar provider. But to my mongers who are not good looking like me BEWARE!! Just because the provider is well reviewed there is still a strong chance that because you are not good looking you will get a mediocre sesh nothing like other mongers experienced. The only providers I would say that are 100% safe treat all mongers equal are Nara and Aki (too bad aki is gone but she is so good that its worth mentioning.).
Hornysamowen
03-13-15, 04:12
I consider myself the real test if a provider is really allstar worthy and treats everyone equally! I am NOT good looking by any means and have had bomb dud sessions with allstars such as Million the Julie (or whatever the fuck she calls herself now days) and Honey providers that other mongers swear on their life were all stars. Yaz is another all star that gave me mind blowing experience the fist time then my 3 sesh after were just a train wreck. Guessing because I'm not attractive and she already built up a steady clientelle that she decided to kick me to the way side. The legend Chanel one of my all time faves gives me good service she's a master of her craft but based on other monger reports I know I draw the short end of the stick alhhough the short end of the stick with chanel is still mind blowing LOL still I don't get the top nothc service as other mongers. Overall when I read provider reviews I usually wait a while before I partake because I know that ohter mongers are way more better looking then me and therefore are granted way better service. For me the only 2 providers it seems that you can always count on that will blow your mind and give top notch service regardless of how you look are Nara and Aki. Although I still have yet to partake in the legendary Happy LOL. But all other providers I feel there is a strong risk of YMMV depending on there mood, your physical appearance etc. For example Page is the hit right now but my last sesh with her was a dud, she kept pulling away from me when I tried to DFK and complained how tired she was. So yes I agree some mongers make it a point to bash every provider others seem to always get top service but for me I always try to post realistic reviews and a lot of times the provider ends up beign shallow and superfiicial example Vanilla another top allstar but when I saw her dud because I'm not good looking. So to my felllow mongers looks matter, if you are a decent or good looking guy then the odds are in your favor that you will have a mind blowing awesom sesh with the current allstar provider. But to my mongers who are not good looking like me BEWARE!! Just because the provider is well reviewed there is still a strong chance that because you are not good looking you will get a mediocre sesh nothing like other mongers experienced. The only providers I would say that are 100% safe treat all mongers equal are Nara and Aki (too bad aki is gone but she is so good that its worth mentioning.).Hey Bro, I know what you mean, its always a your YMMV kind of deal in this hobby.
Hornysamowen
03-13-15, 04:18
Don't you just hate it when some monger who was rejected by a girl accuses you of writing good reviews "because you're getting kickbacks or discounts?
When it's a well reviewed provider, she must be broke by now if that were the case. Some people just stoop to new lows all the time. SMMFH.Hey I agree with you too, but then there are mongers that never give a bad review. They always have glowing reports of the the providers they see. Every know and then, we recieve crappy service, so we should post those too, to let others know of the bad service. Yes, as always the rule is YMMV.
Hey Bro, I know what you mean, its always a your YMMV kind of deal in this hobby.Yeah, I just waiting to see if that DT25 is going to claim his "superman" status with the AMP providers. Ha ha.
I consider myself the real test if a provider is really allstar worthy and treats everyone equally! I am NOT good looking by any means and have had bomb dud sessions with allstars such as Million the Julie (or whatever the fuck she calls herself now days) and Honey providers that other mongers swear on their life were all stars. Yaz is another all star that gave me mind blowing experience the fist time then my 3 sesh after were just a train wreck. Guessing because I'm not attractive and she already built up a steady clientelle that she decided to kick me to the way side. The legend Chanel one of my all time faves gives me good service she's a master of her craft but based on other monger reports I know I draw the short end of the stick alhhough the short end of the stick with chanel is still mind blowing LOL still I don't get the top nothc service as other mongers. Overall when I read provider reviews I usually wait a while before I partake because I know that ohter mongers are way more better looking then me and therefore are granted way better service. For me the only 2 providers it seems that you can always count on that will blow your mind and give top notch service regardless of how you look are Nara and Aki. Although I still have yet to partake in the legendary Happy LOL. But all other providers I feel there is a strong risk of YMMV depending on there mood, your physical appearance etc. For example Page is the hit right now but my last sesh with her was a dud, she kept pulling away from me when I tried to DFK and complained how tired she was. So yes I agree some mongers make it a point to bash every provider others seem to always get top service but for me I always try to post realistic reviews and a lot of times the provider ends up beign shallow and superfiicial example Vanilla another top allstar but when I saw her dud because I'm not good looking. So to my felllow mongers looks matter, if you are a decent or good looking guy then the odds are in your favor that you will have a mind blowing awesom sesh with the current allstar provider. But to my mongers who are not good looking like me BEWARE!! Just because the provider is well reviewed there is still a strong chance that because you are not good looking you will get a mediocre sesh nothing like other mongers experienced. The only providers I would say that are 100% safe treat all mongers equal are Nara and Aki (too bad aki is gone but she is so good that its worth mentioning.).You're a good measuring tool when it comes to measuring how a providers service / attitude will be, especially when it comes to the hotter looking ones. It makes the readers out there feel they have a good chance of getting good service to. It also shows that the provider is not as judgemental on a persons looks / appearance.
I try not to be overly positive on a review even if I like that provider or providers. The reason is because the way I look at it, there's no way that every person out there will have the same taste and will 100% agree in the looks, attitude and service. So, I try to point out things that I noticed based on my observation and experience so they (who haven't seen/tried) don't walk in there with their hopes up high. It's not to put down the provider because no provider out there can satisfy and please everyone at every level. Also, I find the comparing of a provider with another on their looks and service to be helpful because it shows how they are similar/different. It can help paint a clearer picture of what they can be expecting/not expecting.
I consider myself the real test if a provider is really allstar worthy and treats everyone equally! I am NOT good looking by any means and have had bomb dud sessions with allstars such as Million the Julie (or whatever the fuck she calls herself now days) and Honey providers that other mongers swear on their life were all stars. Yaz is another all star that gave me mind blowing experience the fist time then my 3 sesh after were just a train wreck. Guessing because I'm not attractive and she already built up a steady clientelle that she decided to kick me to the way side. The legend Chanel one of my all time faves gives me good service she's a master of her craft but based on other monger reports I know I draw the short end of the stick alhhough the short end of the stick with chanel is still mind blowing LOL still I don't get the top nothc service as other mongers. Overall when I read provider reviews I usually wait a while before I partake because I know that ohter mongers are way more better looking then me and therefore are granted way better service. For me the only 2 providers it seems that you can always count on that will blow your mind and give top notch service regardless of how you look are Nara and Aki. Although I still have yet to partake in the legendary Happy LOL. But all other providers I feel there is a strong risk of YMMV depending on there mood, your physical appearance etc. For example Page is the hit right now but my last sesh with her was a dud, she kept pulling away from me when I tried to DFK and complained how tired she was. So yes I agree some mongers make it a point to bash every provider others seem to always get top service but for me I always try to post realistic reviews and a lot of times the provider ends up beign shallow and superfiicial example Vanilla another top allstar but when I saw her dud because I'm not good looking. So to my felllow mongers looks matter, if you are a decent or good looking guy then the odds are in your favor that you will have a mind blowing awesom sesh with the current allstar provider. But to my mongers who are not good looking like me BEWARE!! Just because the provider is well reviewed there is still a strong chance that because you are not good looking you will get a mediocre sesh nothing like other mongers experienced. The only providers I would say that are 100% safe treat all mongers equal are Nara and Aki (too bad aki is gone but she is so good that its worth mentioning.).I'm no young stud, unless you think Shrek is a stud, LOL, can't fuck all day, not hung like a horse. I do have confidence though, and believe that manners, kindness and consideration go a long way. There are more than the two women that you mentioned who take those things into consideration. I've never met Aki, but Agree 100% about Nara. She's aces.
If one go's over my reviews, you can find the ladies who take good care of their clients. I usually let a lady do her routine the first time we meet, to establish a comfort level for her, strike some pleasant chit chat when we finish, and take more control on subsequent visits. I've avoided poor service through these boards and through establishing pleasant relations with the mama's as well as the providers. Truly, manners go a long way. Also, Taking the time to find out what a particular woman likes and doesn't like does as well. I've found that once a comfort level has been established, and a woman is well taken care of, everything falls into place for my well being. This doesn't take many visits with a woman either. After a second visit, it's usually all G. At least that's how things work for me, the younger brother of Fat Hairy Bastard, LOL.
RuFeelingOK
03-13-15, 18:53
I am curious to get the diverse opinions of you mongers on a provider to see.
I enjoy BBBJCIM. Daty. Dfk, msog. Am ok with CFS, looks matter though that is subjective, like natural breasts, reasonably good conversation, and kinda like big clits and meaty pussy,. Anyone like that comes to mind and who genuinely likes giving and receiving pleasure and loves to come?
Hey I agree with you too, but then there are mongers that never give a bad review. They always have glowing reports of the the providers they see. Every know and then, we recieve crappy service, so we should post those too, to let others know of the bad service. Yes, as always the rule is YMMV.The bad reviews are more helpful than the good reviews. Not trying to sound conceited, but I've always good service every time I've went because I try and do lots of research before hand, LOL.
Spartacus77
03-13-15, 19:56
I'm not sure if AMP girls really care if we are good looking studs. If you are a good looking stud, you probably don't need to monger much because you get plenty civilian play. These are not normal gals looking for a relationship. These are working girls interested in making the most money in the fastest time possible. Most of their clients don't look like Brad Pitt. Being hung like a donkey is great for civilians, but the working gals (if they are really popular) can see upwards of 10 guys a night. A big dick, or a rough monger, will put them out of commission for a week. That's income lost.
If you want good service, treat them like girl-friends, not a * be respectful, don't try to slip the condom off when they not looking, and most of all tip generously.
Especially on repeats if a provider knows she will be getting more from you then the average $150, you will get better service, and she'll ignore the first couple of knocks. Don't kid yourselves, we are $ signs to them. We are work.
That's how it works in the real world too. Money talks. In the mongering world being cheap isn't a virtue and won't get you enthusiastic service from the hot "in-demand" girls.
If you get shitty service, pay normal fee and don't repeat. If service is good, pay more and then enjoy the benefits of repeat visits. It's pretty simple.
I consider myself the real test if a provider is really allstar worthy and treats everyone equally! I am NOT good looking by any means and have had bomb dud sessions with allstars such as Million the Julie (or whatever the fuck she calls herself now days) and Honey providers that other mongers swear on their life were all stars. Yaz is another all star that gave me mind blowing experience the fist time then my 3 sesh after were just a train wreck. Guessing because I'm not attractive and she already built up a steady clientelle that she decided to kick me to the way side. The legend Chanel one of my all time faves gives me good service she's a master of her craft but based on other monger reports I know I draw the short end of the stick alhhough the short end of the stick with chanel is still mind blowing LOL still I don't get the top nothc service as other mongers. Overall when I read provider reviews I usually wait a while before I partake because I know that ohter mongers are way more better looking then me and therefore are granted way better service. For me the only 2 providers it seems that you can always count on that will blow your mind and give top notch service regardless of how you look are Nara and Aki. Although I still have yet to partake in the legendary Happy LOL. But all other providers I feel there is a strong risk of YMMV depending on there mood, your physical appearance etc. For example Page is the hit right now but my last sesh with her was a dud, she kept pulling away from me when I tried to DFK and complained how tired she was. So yes I agree some mongers make it a point to bash every provider others seem to always get top service but for me I always try to post realistic reviews and a lot of times the provider ends up beign shallow and superfiicial example Vanilla another top allstar but when I saw her dud because I'm not good looking. So to my felllow mongers looks matter, if you are a decent or good looking guy then the odds are in your favor that you will have a mind blowing awesom sesh with the current allstar provider. But to my mongers who are not good looking like me BEWARE!! Just because the provider is well reviewed there is still a strong chance that because you are not good looking you will get a mediocre sesh nothing like other mongers experienced. The only providers I would say that are 100% safe treat all mongers equal are Nara and Aki (too bad aki is gone but she is so good that its worth mentioning.).
Until I found this forum it was really hit or miss for me. I would find those ads and basically chance'um and sometimes good, sometimes bad. No matter what I always treated the ladies with respect and more often than not service improves because I treated them with respect and as a person, not just a piece of ass. I used to go to the present "Smile Spa" and got some great service. Some of the girls were really attractive others just average but I let it be known that I cared how they felt and was not selfish. Sometimes I would ask if they were able to cum during DATY and in general they would let me give it my best shot. Sometimes successful sometimes not. I think they just appreciated that I tried and cared. I'm not the best looking guy, older (more than 60), overweight with some health issues but hey, I'm trying. Same thing at the current Rose, I think was Milky Way at the time, had some great service there. So take it for what it's worth. I believe in Karma and so far it's worked out.
Until I found this forum it was really hit or miss for me. I would find those ads and basically chance'um and sometimes good, sometimes bad. No matter what I always treated the ladies with respect and more often than not service improves because I treated them with respect and as a person, not just a piece of ass. I used to go to the present "Smile Spa" and got some great service. Some of the girls were really attractive others just average but I let it be known that I cared how they felt and was not selfish. Sometimes I would ask if they were able to cum during DATY and in general they would let me give it my best shot. Sometimes successful sometimes not. I think they just appreciated that I tried and cared. I'm not the best looking guy, older (more than 60), overweight with some health issues but hey, I'm trying. Same thing at the current Rose, I think was Milky Way at the time, had some great service there. So take it for what it's worth. I believe in Karma and so far it's worked out.That's what I'm saying. Sure, it's a business, but so are most things in life, and treating one another with respect goes a long way in this world.
Cosmic Kid
03-13-15, 21:37
I consider myself the real test if a provider is really allstar worthy and treats everyone equally! I am NOT good looking by any means and have had bomb dud sessions with allstars such as Million the Julie (or whatever the fuck she calls herself now days) and Honey providers that other mongers swear on their life were all stars. Yaz is another all star that gave me mind blowing experience the fist time then my 3 sesh after were just a train wreck. Guessing because I'm not attractive and she already built up a steady clientelle that she decided to kick me to the way side. The legend Chanel one of my all time faves gives me good service she's a master of her craft but based on other monger reports I know I draw the short end of the stick alhhough the short end of the stick with chanel is still mind blowing LOL still I don't get the top nothc service as other mongers. Overall when I read provider reviews I usually wait a while before I partake because I know that ohter mongers are way more better looking then me and therefore are granted way better service. For me the only 2 providers it seems that you can always count on that will blow your mind and give top notch service regardless of how you look are Nara and Aki. Although I still have yet to partake in the legendary Happy LOL. But all other providers I feel there is a strong risk of YMMV depending on there mood, your physical appearance etc. For example Page is the hit right now but my last sesh with her was a dud, she kept pulling away from me when I tried to DFK and complained how tired she was. So yes I agree some mongers make it a point to bash every provider others seem to always get top service but for me I always try to post realistic reviews and a lot of times the provider ends up beign shallow and superfiicial example Vanilla another top allstar but when I saw her dud because I'm not good looking. So to my felllow mongers looks matter, if you are a decent or good looking guy then the odds are in your favor that you will have a mind blowing awesom sesh with the current allstar provider. But to my mongers who are not good looking like me BEWARE!! Just because the provider is well reviewed there is still a strong chance that because you are not good looking you will get a mediocre sesh nothing like other mongers experienced. The only providers I would say that are 100% safe treat all mongers equal are Nara and Aki (too bad aki is gone but she is so good that its worth mentioning.).You are apparently taking everything every monger on this board says as gospel. Maybe some guys embellish, inflate facts, or just outright lie to boost their egos. Ever think about this possibility? Not saying it happens, but you and I don't know. What percentage of the AMP reports are less than totally accurate versions of what actually went down in some guy's session? Where's the proof? But if you read all of that stuff as legit descriptions of sessions then you are beating yourself on the head and thinking you are having a less than optimal experience, based on falsehoods! In other words you could be just mind-fucking yourself, buying in on some jerk's fictional story.
You are convinced you are not good looking so therefore the providers give you sub-par service. If you walk into the room with this conviction of how ugly you are, you will radiate it and chances are, if the girl is the least bit intuitive, she will be influenced by your low opinion of yourself and so of course she will give you sub-par service, thus validating you entrenched belief about yourself. But when all's said and done, sex appeal may have less to do with a guy's looks than his perception of himself as a man. So if you change your vision of yourself, build self-esteem, and carry yourself with pride, you may be surprised to begin receiving quite different responses from the providers you visit.
Spartacus77
03-13-15, 21:59
We mongers have to get it straight that these pros are fantasies. They are not our SO's and they shouldn't be your primary source of sex. If so you will eventually be broke and in a world of hurt. You have to manage this addiction. Budget and exercise some self restraint. These gals should be used to supplement if you aren't getting enough at home, help you through a dry spell or help you practice your skills.
Many of the reviews are misleading and filled with lies, so don't compare their experiences with yours, it's all locker room talk -YMMV. If you are a single guy, your focus should be hitting on real girls. Paid sources should be a last resort. For we with SO, the trick is use as needed and try not to get caught. If caught repent and sin no more.
Be safe and keep it under control.
We mongers have to get it straight that these pros are fantasies. They are not our SO's and they shouldn't be your primary source of sex. If so you will eventually be broke and in a world of hurt. You have to manage this addiction. Budget and exercise some self restraint. These gals should be used to supplement if you aren't getting enough at home, help you through a dry spell or help you practice your skills.
Many of the reviews are misleading and filled with lies, so don't compare their experiences with yours, it's all locker room talk -YMMV. If you are a single guy, your focus should be hitting on real girls. Paid sources should be a last resort. For we with SO, the trick is use as needed and try not to get caught. If caught repent and sin no more.
Be safe and keep it under control.As one who has been married and divorced twice, I can truthfully say that this hobby is a hell of a lot cheaper than marriage. Marriage can also come with a lot of pain and depression. I believe that even if I spent extra for the privilege of taking a girl out on a date occasionally, it would still be cheaper. Monger on!
If you are a single guy, your focus should be hitting on real girls. Paid sources should be a last resort.If you're a single guy, you'll still spend probably the same amount on a girl with NO guarantee of sex.
Member #5810
03-14-15, 01:34
I consider myself the real test if a provider is really allstar worthy and treats everyone equally! I am NOT good looking by any means and have had bomb dud sessions with allstars such as Million the Julie (or whatever the fuck she calls herself now days) and Honey providers that other mongers swear on their life were all stars. Yaz is another all star that gave me mind blowing experience the fist time then my 3 sesh after were just a train wreck. Guessing because I'm not attractive and she already built up a steady clientelle that she decided to kick me to the way side. The legend Chanel one of my all time faves gives me good service she's a master of her craft but based on other monger reports I know I draw the short end of the stick alhhough the short end of the stick with chanel is still mind blowing LOL still I don't get the top nothc service as other mongers. Overall when I read provider reviews I usually wait a while before I partake because I know that ohter mongers are way more better looking then me and therefore are granted way better service. For me the only 2 providers it seems that you can always count on that will blow your mind and give top notch service regardless of how you look are Nara and Aki. Although I still have yet to partake in the legendary Happy LOL. But all other providers I feel there is a strong risk of YMMV depending on there mood, your physical appearance etc. For example Page is the hit right now but my last sesh with her was a dud, she kept pulling away from me when I tried to DFK and complained how tired she was. So yes I agree some mongers make it a point to bash every provider others seem to always get top service but for me I always try to post realistic reviews and a lot of times the provider ends up beign shallow and superfiicial example Vanilla another top allstar but when I saw her dud because I'm not good looking. So to my felllow mongers looks matter, if you are a decent or good looking guy then the odds are in your favor that you will have a mind blowing awesom sesh with the current allstar provider. But to my mongers who are not good looking like me BEWARE!! Just because the provider is well reviewed there is still a strong chance that because you are not good looking you will get a mediocre sesh nothing like other mongers experienced. The only providers I would say that are 100% safe treat all mongers equal are Nara and Aki (too bad aki is gone but she is so good that its worth mentioning.).
Wow. . thanks for the honesty and info. Yeah what you say is true. Modestly, I am on the good looking side. Or so I've been told. So my sessions have been pretty great, even the first time. What you say is true though with some girls as my buddy has had similar experiences you described with girls I told him were fabulous for me. So YMMV is the rule. But if I can add my 2 cents. . always be clean and neat. . respectful. . polite. . nice and friendly. And especially make sure you have no body odor or bad breath. Just like how you would want your girl to be clean and neat and fresh for you. . you should do the same.
It goes a long way. If you want to. PM me and I can give you some providers who I think you will have a great time with. Become a regular with them and I'm sure you'll have a lot of memorable good time sessions.
You are apparently taking everything every monger on this board says as gospel. Maybe some guys embellish, inflate facts, or just outright lie to boost their egos. Ever think about this possibility? Not saying it happens, but you and I don't know. What percentage of the AMP reports are less than totally accurate versions of what actually went down in some guy's session? Where's the proof? But if you read all of that stuff as legit descriptions of sessions then you are beating yourself on the head and thinking you are having a less than optimal experience, based on falsehoods! In other words you could be just mind-fucking yourself, buying in on some jerk's fictional story.
Oh yes. Some of the posters exaggerate somewhat in their reviews. I know because some of the girls have told me. The girls do read this forum. And then, exaggerations in some reviews are so obvious that I don't need anyone to tell me if true or not if I also have been with the same girl, so I read them with a grain of salt. I hate it when posters misrepresent the facts in reviews.
I consider myself the real test if a provider is really allstar worthy and treats everyone equally! I am NOT good looking by any means and have had bomb dud sessions with allstars such as Million the Julie (or whatever the fuck she calls herself now days) and Honey providers that other mongers swear on their life were all stars. Yaz is another all star that gave me mind blowing experience the fist time then my 3 sesh after were just a train wreck. Guessing because I'm not attractive and she already built up a steady clientelle that she decided to kick me to the way side. The legend Chanel one of my all time faves gives me good service she's a master of her craft but based on other monger reports I know I draw the short end of the stick alhhough the short end of the stick with chanel is still mind blowing LOL still I don't get the top nothc service as other mongers. Overall when I read provider reviews I usually wait a while before I partake because I know that ohter mongers are way more better looking then me and therefore are granted way better service. For me the only 2 providers it seems that you can always count on that will blow your mind and give top notch service regardless of how you look are Nara and Aki. Although I still have yet to partake in the legendary Happy LOL. But all other providers I feel there is a strong risk of YMMV depending on there mood, your physical appearance etc. For example Page is the hit right now but my last sesh with her was a dud, she kept pulling away from me when I tried to DFK and complained how tired she was. So yes I agree some mongers make it a point to bash every provider others seem to always get top service but for me I always try to post realistic reviews and a lot of times the provider ends up beign shallow and superfiicial example Vanilla another top allstar but when I saw her dud because I'm not good looking. So to my felllow mongers looks matter, if you are a decent or good looking guy then the odds are in your favor that you will have a mind blowing awesom sesh with the current allstar provider. But to my mongers who are not good looking like me BEWARE!! Just because the provider is well reviewed there is still a strong chance that because you are not good looking you will get a mediocre sesh nothing like other mongers experienced. The only providers I would say that are 100% safe treat all mongers equal are Nara and Aki (too bad aki is gone but she is so good that its worth mentioning.).Atmatic123--The guys gave you some very good advice. Just to say, you mentioned Happy. I don't see how you could possibly have a bad experience with her--unless you have poor hygiene or are disrespectful. Same thing with Michelle. I think Happy and Michelle are equal opportunity providers. You should check them out at Happiness. And if you do, let us know how it went.
I am a pretty active monger and I find myself going back to the same AMPs over and over again. I am wondering if I should venture out more. This thread is for everyone to post their favorite AMPs so that others may try something new as well.
I find myself going to the following AMPs over and over again.
1) Top Spa. This is my current favorite because they have the best combination of Young and attractive girls who provide great service. I haven't ever gone to VIP or Seven, but just the fact that all the girls provide CBJ keeps me away from them. Top has a nice table shower. In addition, it's pretty easy to get an appointment with one of the hotties. The girls speak decent English. Mama is okay. I don't have a relationship with her.
2) Mayflower. Similar to Top in terms of girls who are young and attractive and provide great service. I really like Yoyo and I hang out there to talk to her and the girls. The place is very nice, more like a luxury apartment than an AMP. The only thing missing is a table shower.
3) Empire. All young girls who provide a fulls suite of services. Nice table shower. Mama is very nice and responsive to customer needs. The biggest issue is that the girls tend not to speak any English and the service seems a bit mechanical.
I go to these AMPs occasionally when they have a top provider, but they are definitely could use some improvement on their business model.
1) Happiness. They have top rated girls, but let's face it, 109 is not a great location. The table shower is too small. They only have a few rooms. Mongers are on top of each other waiting for their appointment. Happy is a really nice and gracious hostess and provider and her providers are all highly rated. But, the providers are not Spring chickens. Happy should move to a nicer location with a proper table shower.
2) Hula. Hard to park. They get some top providers there. But, it's not consisent, so I don't go there often.
3) Nirvana. Not easy to park. Walk of shame embarasses many mongers, but the location and table shower is nice. I go there when they have outstanding girls.
4) Roses. Good parking. Nice mama. I love the private table shower room that Aki and now Honey uses. This place is good when they have young girls who provide great service.
5) Kison. I love Chanel. In addition, she gets a lot of girls who provide BBFS service that many mongers can't live without. However, they are having a hard time keeping the younger girls there. When they get the younger girls, they don't offer service as good as the other top AMPs.
Rarely go to these, but worth it on occasion:
1) Ginza. I liked Julie when she was there even though her service was all covered.
2) Tokyo Spa. Has good looking girls, but I don't feel like their service is at the top of the ladder.
3) CC203. Occassionally get an outstanding provider. Love their private location in CC.
4) China Doll. Also go here once in a while to see a great provider.
I guess my taste has evolved over time. I used to go only for the best looking young girls without regarding for service quality. Then, I went the other direction toward service over looks. Now, I have come back to the middle. Younger, great looking girls who provide top notch service. In this regard, Top Spa, Mayflower and Empire are my favorites and get the majority of my business.
I am NOT good looking by any means and have had bomb dud sessions with allstars such as Million the Julie (or whatever the fuck she calls herself now days) and Honey providers that other mongers swear on their life were all stars. Yaz is another all star that gave me mind blowing experience the fist time then my 3 sesh after were just a train wreck. Guessing because I'm not attractive and she already built up a steady clientelle that she decided to kick me to the way side.
I always try to post realistic reviews and a lot of times the provider ends up beign shallow and superfiicial example Vanilla another top allstar but when I saw her dud because I'm not good looking.It's understandable why AMP providers can do that with certain customers. If you think about it, you have a similar mentality with Amp providers as well. You mainly want to see/repeat with the hotter looking ones that would give GFE. If someone were to suggest that you see other AMP providers that can offer good service with GFE, you'll think that she's either too old, not attractive enough or body not as hot to your standards. Therefore, if you were a hot looking AMP provider, you'd probably have a similar thinking to a "The" Julie type provider based on your view / outlook of providers. Hehe.
Heck man, for someone who doesn't consider himself attractive, you have higher standards than some of us on here. LOL.
Lonely Smiles
03-14-15, 16:51
It's understandable why AMP providers can do that with certain customers. If you think about it, you have a similar mentality with Amp providers as well. You mainly want to see/repeat with the hotter looking ones that would give GFE. If someone were to suggest that you see other AMP providers that can offer good service with GFE, you'll think that she's either too old, not attractive enough or body not as hot to your standards. Therefore, if you were a hot looking AMP provider, you'd probably have a similar thinking to a "The" Julie type provider based on your view / outlook of providers. Hehe.
Heck man, for someone who doesn't consider himself attractive, you have higher standards than some of us on here. LOL.Uki Eater, I think you may be on to something :p.
Girls read body language instantly--they see our reaction to their physical appearance. If I get into a room with a semi attractive naked woman that provides DFK and GFE, I'm a happy camper.
LiveDieRepeat
03-14-15, 17:29
1) Happiness. They have top rated girls, but let's face it, 109 is not a great location. The table shower is too small. They only have a few rooms. Mongers are on top of each other waiting for their appointment. Happy is a really nice and gracious hostess and provider and her providers are all highly rated. But, the providers are not Spring chickens. Happy should move to a nicer location with a proper table shower.
Rumor is a new location might be coming soon.
Girls read body language instantly--they see our reaction to their physical appearance. If I get into a room with a semi attractive naked woman that provides DFK and GFE, I'm a happy camper.It can definitely affect the experience when the provider notices that you're not really interested in her. She can tell by your facial expression and body language. That's why you may hear the girl say.
"Am I okay?
"You want to see someone else?
If you try someone and you're thinking, "oh man, butter face" The provider will feel awkward and not sure what to do when she notices you're not showing enthusiasm and interest. She's not going to be enthusiastic herself.
1) Happiness. They have top rated girls, but let's face it, 109 is not a great location. The table shower is too small. They only have a few rooms. Mongers are on top of each other waiting for their appointment. Happy is a really nice and gracious hostess and provider and her providers are all highly rated. But, the providers are not Spring chickens. Happy should move to a nicer location with a proper table shower.
2) Hula. Hard to park. They get some top providers there. But, it's not consisent, so I don't go there often.
3) Nirvana. Not easy to park. Walk of shame embarasses many mongers, but the location and table shower is nice. I go there when they have outstanding girls.1) When I go to CC109 I park at Don Quiote and walk over. 2) When I go to Hula and Nirvana I park at Zippy's. Easier to slip in unnoticed when walking.
We mongers have to get it straight that these pros are fantasies. They are not our SO's and they shouldn't be your primary source of sex. If so you will eventually be broke and in a world of hurt. You have to manage this addiction. Budget and exercise some self restraint. These gals should be used to supplement if you aren't getting enough at home, help you through a dry spell or help you practice your skills.
Many of the reviews are misleading and filled with lies, so don't compare their experiences with yours, it's all locker room talk -YMMV. If you are a single guy, your focus should be hitting on real girls. Paid sources should be a last resort. For we with SO, the trick is use as needed and try not to get caught. If caught repent and sin no more.
Be safe and keep it under control. In addition to the replies of HeMooo and Bikini:
If you're a single guy, you'll still spend probably the same amount on a girl with NO guarantee of sex.
As one who has been married and divorced twice, I can truthfully say that this hobby is a hell of a lot cheaper than marriage. Marriage can also come with a lot of pain and depression. I believe that even if I spent extra for the privilege of taking a girl out on a date occasionally, it would still be cheaper. Monger on!Here are a few more thoughts. For young and handsome guys, the "paid sources should be a last resort" advice might be appropriate. However, for guys who are older and less physically appealing (like me), I think that it's fine to use paid providers as a first resort (especially if many of those paid providers cost substantially less than the standard $200 price level of AMP visits).
Here are the four reasons why, as previously posted by Kapalua:
(1) Using paid providers has enabled me to sexually experience many more women than if I were only dating "normal" women for no financial compensation.
(2) As I've become older, using paid providers has enabled me to be with types of women I would have little or no chance of dating "normally".
(3) Using paid providers has enabled me to sexually enjoy many women almost as soon as I meet them.
(4) Plus, using paid providers has enabled me to have types of sexual experiences that many "normal" women could be reluctant to provide.
So, in my opinion, three cheers for the wide and wonderful world of prostitution!
Realdeal808
03-15-15, 19:44
In addition to the replies of HeMooo and Bikini:
Here are a few more thoughts. For young and handsome guys, the "paid sources should be a last resort" advice might be appropriate. However, for guys who are older and less physically appealing (like me), I think that it's fine to use paid providers as a first resort (especially if many of those paid providers cost substantially less than the standard $200 price level of AMP visits).
Here are the four reasons why, as previously posted by Kapalua:
(1) Using paid providers has enabled me to sexually experience many more women than if I were only dating "normal" women for no financial compensation.
(2) As I've become older, using paid providers has enabled me to be with types of women I would have little or no chance of dating "normally".
(3) Using paid providers has enabled me to sexually enjoy many women almost as soon as I meet them.
(4) Plus, using paid providers has enabled me to have types of sexual experiences that many "normal" women could be reluctant to provide.
So, in my opinion, three cheers for the wide and wonderful world of prostitution!These are all valid points. I think one more significant reason should be added. I don't go to AMPs, but if I did, the main reason would be that you can enjoy the sex and then move on with your life. Meaning, no feelings of obligation to a gf. Don't even have to call her after to see how she's doing. The drama that goes along with banging civilians is sometimes a high price to pay. Anyway, that's IMO.
These are all valid points. I think one more significant reason should be added. I don't go to AMPs, but if I did, the main reason would be that you can enjoy the sex and then move on with your life. Meaning, no feelings of obligation to a gf. Don't even have to call her after to see how she's doing. The drama that goes along with banging civilians is sometimes a high price to pay. Anyway, that's IMO.Yes, that's another good point to add to the list.
1) When I go to CC109 I park at Don Quiote and walk over. 2) When I go to Hula and Nirvana I park at Zippy's. Easier to slip in unnoticed when walking.When going to CC109, why not just pull into the garage and get the parking pass? Works for me all the time.
Atmatic123
03-16-15, 05:04
First off I think its awesome that my post branched off into so many great discussions and topics. Now I want to add more points that I should have added in my first post.
-I do treat all providers nice, before any visit I shower, floss, brush my teeth, listerine, cologne the whole nine yards.
-I smile at them and greet them with a friendly demeanor.
-Even though I am fresh and clean if they want to still shower me I let them.
-I am not rough with them or am large by any means so I know I am not hurting them.
With all that said I still get YMMV. I don't take any mongers report as gospel, YES I KNOW mongers will lie and exagerate their reports but their are some providers that are regarded as all stars with consistently good reports and when I saw them BAM crap wasteful session. Some major duds that were all stars that come to mind are the Julie or Ivy or whatever the fuck she calls herself, Million, and Vanilla. I would add Honey (the local hottie who used to work at ginza) to the list but she never gave GFE so I guess my time with her was the norm.
And YES there are others that gave great service regardless of looks worth mentioning besides Aki and Nara, like Joon from roses who went independent after and bounced around at different AMP but I can't remember which, Yuki from swan, tokyo spa, and now nirvana.
Now for the comment about money talks? What do you mean, so I need to tip more after an average session and then go for a 2nd sesh hoping it would be better? I guess some mongers have the $$ for that but for me HELL NO! I and WE are paying for the service hence NO YMMV should even be in play!
If I wanted to be treated like an ugly bastard then I would just stick to the real world. Even if I get good service the first time it goes down from there, recently Yaz did that to me, if she kept the service from our first meeitng she would be my ATF but nope, figured she give me a good.
Sesh the first time and hope I didn't return but because I did she decided to drop her service so bad so that she didn't have to see me again and save it for the good looking mongers and loaded ones who tip extra. Overall I like to bring the attention of all the YMMV service because.
I believe it shouldn't exist! If we walk in there fresh, smelling good, dressed nice then we should get the same service as everyone regardless of our looks. Now a drunken monger walking that's a different story. I know YMMV will always exist but venting on these boards becuase.
Thats one means of it LOL!
As far as using this hobby as a last resort and banging real world ones, um I can personally say that unless you got lower standards or our at least average looking THAT IS ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE HERE! I grew up in california and moved here about 10 yrs ago, and I can say from.
First hand experience girls in hawaii are shallow shrewds! I never took part in the AMP game in Cali but here I do because all the desirable girls are taken and any single girl wililing to put out is damn fugly LOL. Also I noticed here compared to other places girls are extremely superficial.
And shallow, if you don't look good then any sort of play is off the table. But as Uki said I do have very high standards so that's my own problems, but whatever, I'd rather shoot for the stars then settle for some fugly whack ass girl. I'd rather partake in AMP fun then settle for a.
Real world one night stand with the girl at the bar or club that NO one wants to talk to.
On a side note thinking of partaking in the legendary happy just to see what all the hype is about, I mean didn't she win provider of the year 2 yrs in a row?? WOW that is impressive. I think my favorite provider overall is still Chanel from seven. But want to point out that I still.
Get somewhat YMMV with her, everytime I see her she always makes an excuse saying that I came at a bad time and she's not really feeling good and all that bullshit. But still Chanels mediocre service is still better then almost all other providers best service LOL hence why I still.
Go back and see her so much. But I always wonder how mind blowing an experience with Chanel would be if I got her top service like I'm sure other mongers receive.
Finally just want to say that the AMP boards are the best! The strip club boards are dead, NO one shares anything just loaded with users posting recon after recon about all the different strip clubs and if the do get any play I'm sure their not posting anything because they probabley.
Fell in love with the stripper LOL. The Kbar threads are full of elitist douche bags who only share with a certain few because they all go out together or whatevers. Once I posted on the thread and got very sarcastic replies because I hardly post. Fucking dumb asses. If you guys ever.
Read the kbar threads its rediculous! No help there, also the kbar scene is just loaded with bitches who act as if we are supposed to be catering to them!! Fuckin don't blame them since the guys who frequent the bars and post on the threads treat them like goddesses?? WTF?
Now there are some mongers here on the AMP boards who defend a certain provider or call negative posts suspect? What is the point in that?? One provider that I posted negative reviews about was Vanilla and then there were posts after posts of of her top notch service and mongers.
Making comments about how I didn't know what I was talking about? Seriosly? If that keeps happening no wonder a lot of these providers act as if there shit don't stink! Bottom line they are hear to service US! I remember seeing negative reviews of Nara and Aki (the two provi.
Providers that I feel are the epitome of equal opputunity service hence why I always mention them) but I didn't defend them because I know that every monger has the right to their opinion. And even if I did defend them what would that get me?? NOTHING!! Nara and Aki arent gong to.
Jumpm in my arms and gibe me a free visit! A recent negative review I gave was page, my last visit with her was lame, she was tired kept turning her head when I tried to DFK and mama knocked 40 min in and she quickly rushed me out! A monger had an awesome sesh with and said.
Ithat the negative reviews like mine were suspect? WTF! Its posts like that that make these girls believe they can give YMMV and decide to bring their A game only when the feel like it!
Overall I post the truth if the sesh was good or bad I can assure you its 100% accurate because that the least I can do for my fellow mongers, because before these boards I was just shooting in the dark playing AMP Russian roullete LOL. Now these boards have provided intel to.
Help me decide on my next visit. Granted the negative is that these boards make me one to go every day LOL!
Now debating on my next visit? Lux, Bin, Happy, Genie, or Yuki (damn I miss her LOL) and checking these boards every day to see if chanel returns LOL!
I can agree with you on the superstars. The few I've tried were a waste of time and money. One, Boa / Sua, had a cave so big I thought I saw Gollum in there. I refuse to go to Happiness for that reason. But they have enough business without mine anyway.
Cosmic Kid
03-16-15, 21:44
What Atmatic says, "major duds that were all stars", and listing Million. For a while her name was sure up in lights on these boards and she was just about the hottest ho in town. Finally I couldn't stand the suspense, my curiosity got the better of me and I went for a session with Million. It was memorable in the sense that it was one of maybe the three most awful AMP experiences I've ever had. I was so bummed by her general attitude and the way the session went downhill that I subsequently quit mongering entirely and it took me a several months before I got up enough courage to give the AMPs another try. I hope that egocentric witch rots in hell.
Viet Whisperer
03-16-15, 22:58
I can agree with you on the superstars. The few I've tried were a waste of time and money. One, Boa / Sua, had a cave so big I thought I saw Gollum in there. I refuse to go to Happiness for that reason. But they have enough business without mine anyway.Gollum! Made me spit coffee out my nose.
Viet Whisperer
03-16-15, 23:13
It's never going to be the exact same experience for everyone. Million was always slightly aloof and not A+ service but did I like fucking her? You better believe it and went back 3 times. Honey was hot so I didn't care if she was a * personally and neither did most of the others who were banging her LOL. The mental picture of my cock in her doggy style was worth any slight bitchiness in my opinion. Seen Vanilla a couple times and I have had above average service from her.
Some rave about Jackie from VIP and it was still one of my worst experiences ever so who knows? Bad day probably. Different tastes, sometimes physically worn out, bad customer before you, physical attractiveness, hygeine, and attitude all can be factors at any given time. Your'e dreaming if you think it's always going to be the same everytime for every customer. There are girls that are very consistent and the odds are in your favor if you see them but no guarantees.
Look at it from this perspective: You are the provider and you just finish fucking Sofia Vergara, next customer is Rosie O'Donnell.
You going to be turned on for Rosie? Can you act that well to make her think you love yodeling in that canyon? I don't think so.
Part of the problem is people need to manage their expectations. If you go in thinking the session is going to be the best sex ever, you'll almost always be disappointed. Don't go in with unrealistic expectations. I've done that a few times and I always left thinking what a waste of money that was and how it would have been better spent on a different provider.
What's your preferences? Same deal. Different endings?
Part of the problem is people need to manage their expectations. If you go in thinking the session is going to be the best sex ever, you'll almost always be disappointed. Don't go in with unrealistic expectations. I've done that a few times and I always left thinking what a waste of money that was and how it would have been better spent on a different provider.Then tried to pull repeats to hope it might be better next time, only to find out it's the same old routine as well. Guess I know now. Sample the buffet!
Member #5810
03-17-15, 00:43
First off I think its awesome that my post branched off into so many great discussions and topics. Now I want to add more points that I should have added in my first post.
-I do treat all providers nice, before any visit I shower, floss, brush my teeth, listerine, cologne the whole nine yards.
-I smile at them and greet them with a friendly demeanor.
-Even though I am fresh and clean if they want to still shower me I let them.
-I am not rough with them or am large by any means so I know I am not hurting them.
With all that said I still get YMMV.
Overall I post the truth if the sesh was good or bad I can assure you its 100% accurate because that the least I can do for my fellow mongers, because before these boards I was just shooting in the dark playing AMP Russian roullete LOL. Now these boards have provided intel to.
Help me decide on my next visit. Granted the negative is that these boards make me one to go every day LOL!
Now debating on my next visit? Lux, Bin, Happy, Genie, or Yuki (damn I miss her LOL) and checking these boards every day to see if chanel returns LOL!Try out some of the girls at Kison. My ATF Yoko is a sweetheart and always treats her customers well. . she even has a 70 year old regular. . no lie!
Jae / Jay is also great. Friendly. Sexy. . great kisser. . Tina is good too but sometimes more YMMV. Angie is really nice too. Only thing is I don't know your standard of beauty but these girls are MILF and not Paige or Lux or some mid twenties hottie however they are attractive and their services are extra good. Check out the posts for their reviews.
Happy hunting!
Braddah rachet you crack me up! My stomach sore from laughing so hard with your analogy on Sofia and Rosie!
Mahalo for the post!
Aloha.
It's never going to be the exact same experience for everyone. Million was always slightly aloof and not A+ service but did I like fucking her? You better believe it and went back 3 times. Honey was hot so I didn't care if she was a * personally and neither did most of the others who were banging her LOL. The mental picture of my cock in her doggy style was worth any slight bitchiness in my opinion. Seen Vanilla a couple times and I have had above average service from her.
Some rave about Jackie from VIP and it was still one of my worst experiences ever so who knows? Bad day probably. Different tastes, sometimes physically worn out, bad customer before you, physical attractiveness, hygeine, and attitude all can be factors at any given time. Your'e dreaming if you think it's always going to be the same everytime for every customer. There are girls that are very consistent and the odds are in your favor if you see them but no guarantees.
Look at it from this perspective: You are the provider and you just finish fucking Sofia Vergara, next customer is Rosie O'Donnell.
You going to be turned on for Rosie? Can you act that well to make her think you love yodeling in that canyon? I don't think so.
1) When I go to CC109 I park at Don Quiote and walk over. 2) When I go to Hula and Nirvana I park at Zippy's. Easier to slip in unnoticed when walking.LOL. Thats my gameplan too. I usually go in Zippy's to wash my hands before Hulas. And Holiday Mart parking lot before Century Center and never had any problems.
No matter what a provider tells you. Bottom line.
It's all about the Benjamin's! Peace out!
Try out some of the girls at Kison. My ATF Yoko is a sweetheart and always treats her customers well. . she even has a 70 year old regular. . no lie!
Jae / Jay is also great. Friendly. Sexy. . great kisser. . Tina is good too but sometimes more YMMV. Angie is really nice too. Only thing is I don't know your standard of beauty but these girls are MILF and not Paige or Lux or some mid twenties hottie however they are attractive and their services are extra good. Check out the posts for their reviews.
Happy hunting!Unlikely he'll want to try Yoko or Jae at Kison if he mainly wants to see / repeat with providers such as Chanel, Yuri, Page, Yas, Lux, Yuki and Stella.
Member #5810
03-17-15, 06:45
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What's the proper etiquette for dato? Do you save it for last, or is it ok to do it anytime and go back to kissing and DATY? Do the girls let you kiss after dato?
Realdeal808
03-17-15, 18:24
What's the proper etiquette for dato? Do you save it for last, or is it ok to do it anytime and go back to kissing and DATY? Do the girls let you kiss after dato?Please see the fight thread for a legit question.
Lonely Smiles
03-17-15, 20:33
What's the proper etiquette for dato? Do you save it for last, or is it ok to do it anytime and go back to kissing and DATY? Do the girls let you kiss after dato?For me, it depends on the girl. Brother Blake once noted some girls really enjoy receiving DATO and get turned on by it if it's done correctly. This definitely applies to Michelle and Shiny at Happiness. Both did full on DFK after extended DATO. I've also been able to DATO and then DFK with Empire girls, Wara and Lux at Hulas, Page and Bin at Top.
I suppose it depends also on how deep you are planning to penetrate. I only go so far as it is very clean. As soon as I detect any off taste or that sort of beginning of a salty taste, that's no fly territory for me. I'm not into playing in the mud.
It's pretty hot when a girl is getting off to DATO and then tells you "baby, I want to taste my ass!" before giving you wet DFK.
That said, with certain girls who may be more self conscious or afraid of bacteria, I try to save DATO to the end. The first few times I saw Nani, fka Kan, at CC203, I did DATO at the end.
Punanilicr
03-17-15, 20:46
For me, it depends on the girl. Brother Blake once noted some girls really enjoy receiving DATO and get turned on by it if it's done correctly. This definitely applies to Michelle and Shiny at Happiness. Both did full on DFK after extended DATO. I've also been able to DATO and then DFK with Empire girls, Wara and Lux at Hulas, Page and Bin at Top.
I suppose it depends also on how deep you are planning to penetrate. I only go so far as it is very clean. As soon as I detect any off taste or that sort of beginning of a salty taste, that's no fly territory for me. I'm not into playing in the mud.
It's pretty hot when a girl is getting off to DATO and then tells you "baby, I want to taste my ass!" before giving you wet DFK.
That said, with certain girls who may be more self conscious or afraid of bacteria, I try to save DATO to the end. The first few times I saw Nani, fka Kan, at CC203, I did DATO at the end.Lmfao at playing in the mud. Too good!!
Lowlys One
03-18-15, 01:26
What's your preferences? Same deal. Different endings?For me that's an easy one, one hour with two different providers.
For me that's an easy one, one hour with two different providers.Now I know better LOL.
Honolulu808
03-18-15, 01:53
What's the proper etiquette for dato? Do you save it for last, or is it ok to do it anytime and go back to kissing and DATY? Do the girls let you kiss after dato?Etiquette would be to be respectful and understand your partners body language and verbal requests. As for when, timing, there is no when should you do it. The other night I was with a provider with her on her back and my face between her legs, she raised her ass so my tongue only had one place to go. Once I had a provider rimming me but when I returned the favor she declined so we moved on from there.
Some girls are so clean that they douche both holes when the clean themselves, but not all, so kissing varies too. Just read what they want and what's possible.
What's the proper etiquette for dato? Do you save it for last, or is it ok to do it anytime and go back to kissing and DATY? Do the girls let you kiss after dato?You can ask if they don't mind kissing after DATY or DATO. I recall a past post where a customer posted he had Aki and she didn't want to allow kissing after he did DATY. Something about she didn't want to taste herself. I think it may depend on whether the provider is in the mood that she would or not.
One time I did 69 with someone and after that wanted to kiss but, she didn't want to. She was reluctant to. But, before the 69 she allowed kissing. Did cg for awhile and wanted to go DATY again but, noticed a stench was there and didn't bother. Repeated with her and this time around, she didn't mind.
CoffeeLatte
12-20-15, 03:03
Road work, holiday shopping, traffic, and rain. The traffic around Keeaumoku and Ala Moana is crazy, too much cars. I am not afraid of someone I know seeing me, but too much cars on the road. Because of the reasons I wrote at the outset of this post. Ain't going to an AMP until traffic clears up. What I am afraid of is simply this: No matter how excellent a driver he or she may be, more cars mean the chances of getting into an accident very high. The accident may or not be your fault, but I have seen a lot of accidents around this time of the year for as long as I lived in Hawaii.
CoffeeLatte
04-20-16, 16:34
This was last year, I was on vacation, I came back to Hawaii, then I found out Empire was gone. I was sad and miserable, I am over-exaggerating, but you get the picture. Then Happiness opened up, I was happy again, no pun intended. Now this place opens up wow! http://honolulu.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/best-place-to-relax/6101956 If this place is legit, then I will have to ask my boss for more hours. I am not rich, I have two jobs. By the way, anyone knows how I can earn extra money. Much Mahalo.
Honolulu808
04-20-16, 23:55
This was last year, I was on vacation, I came back to Hawaii, then I found out Empire was gone. I was sad and miserable, I am over-exaggerating, but you get the picture. Then Happiness opened up, I was happy again, no pun intended. Now this place opens up wow! http://honolulu.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/best-place-to-relax/6101956 If this place is legit, then I will have to ask my boss for more hours. I am not rich, I have two jobs. By the way, anyone knows how I can earn extra money. Much Mahalo.Yes the post us legit and pictures real. Rooms are awesome.
I know how you can make $$ per hour minus house fee and food. Hours unlimited per your service.
DrMajikLuv69
04-21-16, 00:13
Yes the post us legit and pictures real. Rooms are awesome.
I know how you can make $$ per hour minus house fee and food. Hours unlimited per your service.How? I'm interested. Let me know. Thanks.
Lonely Smiles
04-21-16, 00:21
I know how you can make $$ per hour minus house fee and food. Hours unlimited per your service.LOL, the only catch is that a) there are very few successful male escorts, heterosexual women are wired differently and generally will not pay b) those male escorts who are successful largely service men. Reportedly, one of the highest paid male escorts in the UK pulls in close to the equivalent of $500,000 per year. Again, his clientele are nearly all male. From a psychological standpoint as a straight male, if you imagine yourself doing work that you are extremely uncomfortable with just for money, that is probably how many of the girls in this line of work feel servicing strangers. Eventually, perhaps they grow to tolerate it or numb to it as the money and the lifestyle it provides become irreplaceable.
Need more examples? Consider cam models, far and away women outnumber and out-earn men. Or even browse craigslist casual encounters. For every one W4M post seeking NSA (no strings attached) or FWB (Friend with benefits), there are a dozen M4W posts. And half of those are phishing scams, escorts posing as regular civilians, or adult personals sites trying to get guys to fork over their credit card info. The same is true on Adult dating sites like Adult Friend Finder. In my experience, men out number women like 20:1. You can tell when you find a real woman because her profile will be highly specific about her criteria and cynical after being bombarded by dick picks.
Just how our species is, and has been for a very long time. From a sexual standpoint, men chase, women chose. With few exceptions at the extreme end of the bell curve (aka the extremely high value male, exceptionally wealthy, powerful, influential, or attractive). The only thing that changes this dynamic is money, hence prostitution, the "oldest profession in the world."
Okay, now queue the NSA guys who claim that women throw themselves at their feet, and yet are on a sex-guide forum. Okay Ghengis, keep spreading your genes. I believe you. Haha.
DrMajikLuv69
04-21-16, 00:54
LOL, the only catch is that a) there are very few successful male escorts, heterosexual women are wired differently and generally will not pay b) those male escorts who are successful largely service men. Reportedly, one of the highest paid male escorts in the UK pulls in close to the equivalent of $500,000 per year. Again, his clientele are nearly all male. From a psychological standpoint as a straight male, if you imagine yourself doing work that you are extremely uncomfortable with just for money, that is probably how many of the girls in this line of work feel servicing strangers. Eventually, perhaps they grow to tolerate it or numb to it as the money and the lifestyle it provides become irreplaceable.
Need more examples? Consider cam models, far and away women outnumber and out-earn men. Or even browse craigslist casual encounters. For every one W4M post seeking NSA (no strings attached) or FWB (Friend with benefits), there are a dozen M4W posts. And half of those are phishing scams, escorts posing as regular civilians, or adult personals sites trying to get guys to fork over their credit card info. The same is true on Adult dating sites like Adult Friend Finder. In my experience, men out number women like 20:1. You can tell when you find a real woman because her profile will be highly specific about her criteria and cynical after being bombarded by dick picks.
Just how our species is, and has been for a very long time. From a sexual standpoint, men chase, women chose. With few exceptions at the extreme end of the bell curve (aka the extremely high value male, exceptionally wealthy, powerful, influential, or attractive). The only thing that changes this dynamic is money, hence prostitution, the "oldest profession in the world."
Okay, now queue the NSA guys who claim that women throw themselves at their feet, and yet are on a sex-guide forum. Okay Ghengis, keep spreading your genes. I believe you. Haha.You're correct. When I was in college and needed extra cash, I answered an ad for male escort thinking it was for female clientele only, because that is what the ad stated. I was "interviewed" by two men, who promised a lot of easy money. The interview was kind of weird, but I passed it. Long story short, I got money mostly from older men (NONE who I slept with). I called the "agency", and told them that I ONLY want to date females. With that said the calls were far and few between and the ladies I did date were all older at least in their late 40's, 50, and 60's. Not to mentioned the ladies were not the most attractive either, over weight, not pretty. After a few dates, I quit being a "Jigga" and found a regular job waiting tables. To bad there were no young cute Asian spinner clientele.
New Heavy Chev
05-01-16, 03:45
So one reason working girls change names so often is if an AMP gives them a name, when they leave I guess it's against the unwritten rules of the game for them to use that same name at another establishment. But I see some girls using their same handle at multiple AMPs, so I suppose the mileage varies on that policy or they gave themselves that name or some shit.
If the girl gives good service I would think they would want to take the same name with them where ever they go since it has equity in it. If their service isn't very good, then changing names would be a benefit to them since they can front like they're a new girl on the scene or whatever.
SandVolleyball
05-01-16, 14:29
LOL, the only catch is that a) there are very few successful male escorts, heterosexual women are wired differently and generally will not pay b) those male escorts who are successful largely service men. Reportedly, one of the highest paid male escorts in the UK pulls in close to the equivalent of $500,000 per year. Again, his clientele are nearly all male. From a psychological standpoint as a straight male, if you imagine yourself doing work that you are extremely uncomfortable with just for money, that is probably how many of the girls in this line of work feel servicing strangers. Eventually, perhaps they grow to tolerate it or numb to it as the money and the lifestyle it provides become irreplaceable.
Need more examples? Consider cam models, far and away women outnumber and out-earn men. Or even browse craigslist casual encounters. For every one W4M post seeking NSA (no strings attached) or FWB (Friend with benefits), there are a dozen M4W posts. And half of those are phishing scams, escorts posing as regular civilians, or adult personals sites trying to get guys to fork over their credit card info. The same is true on Adult dating sites like Adult Friend Finder. In my experience, men out number women like 20:1. You can tell when you find a real woman because her profile will be highly specific about her criteria and cynical after being bombarded by dick picks.
Just how our species is, and has been for a very long time. From a sexual standpoint, men chase, women chose. With few exceptions at the extreme end of the bell curve (aka the extremely high value male, exceptionally wealthy, powerful, influential, or attractive). The only thing that changes this dynamic is money, hence prostitution, the "oldest profession in the world."
Okay, now queue the NSA guys who claim that women throw themselves at their feet, and yet are on a sex-guide forum. Okay Ghengis, keep spreading your genes. I believe you. Haha.Spot on LonlySmiles.
It's difficult for customers to be "sure" of a provider's age or age range unless they inspect a valid photo ID. When I've researched the various reports of mongers on particular providers, I've often seen differences in age estimates of ten years or more. Also, I think the age of a customer may sometimes influence the customer's age estimates on providers.Here's a prime example supporting the above-quoted opinion. A provider at Blue Star has received multiple reviews within the past week. Here are the different estimates of her age by various forum members, all of whom are senior members and experienced provider reviewers:
(a) "late 20's"
(b) "late twenties to early thirties"
(c) "probably mid-30's"
(d) "late 30's-early 40's"
(e) "she is late 40's"
So there you have it -- the provider is as young as late 20's, or as old as late 40's, or any age in between!
Here's a prime example supporting the above-quoted opinion. A provider at Blue Star has received multiple reviews within the past week. Here are the different estimates of her age by various forum members, all of whom are senior members and experienced provider reviewers:
(a) "late 20's"
(b) "late twenties to early thirties"
(c) "probably mid-30's"
(d) "late 30's-early 40's"
(e) "she is late 40's"
So there you have it -- the provider is as young as late 20's, or as old as late 40's, or any age in between!Did a recon a of said provider but I walked, not my type.
She looks early forties, looks younger than Rebecca (happy) but older than Nani (dream). Nani who was reported as being 44 looks way younger to me than Rebecca. I would have guessed Nani to be in her late thirties but if I posted my opinion of her age I'd bet 90% of you mongers would have disagreed.
Did a recon a of said provider but I walked, not my type.
She looks early forties, looks younger than Rebecca (happy) but older than Nani (dream). Nani who was reported as being 44 looks way younger to me than Rebecca. I would have guessed Nani to be in her late thirties but if I posted my opinion of her age I'd bet 90% of you mongers would have disagreed.Yeah, Asian women with make up on hard to tell true age. The Chinese girls from former empire had to be the youngest ever. As of now IMO sunflower has the youngest.
Yeah, Asian women with make up on hard to tell true age. The Chinese girls from former empire had to be the youngest ever. As of now IMO sunflower has the youngest.How about Dallas she's 39. You would never know right? Imagine that almost 40. Nani 44 OMG she's in perfect shape that is unbelievable so it is scary with botox and plastic some of the providers we think are young are actually up there in age. Whatever it is if the pussy feels good no matter. Like Junko is 50's or probably Monica but damn when you hit it it all ends up the same LOL. You blow your wad and its done.
AmpAddict808
09-10-17, 21:53
Yeah, Asian women with make up on hard to tell true age. The Chinese girls from former empire had to be the youngest ever. As of now IMO sunflower has the youngest.
How about Dallas she's 39. You would never know right? Imagine that almost 40. Nani 44 OMG she's in perfect shape that is unbelievable so it is scary with botox and plastic some of the providers we think are young are actually up there in age. Whatever it is if the pussy feels good no matter. Like Junko is 50's or probably Monica but damn when you hit it it all ends up the same LOL. You blow your wad and its done.Shiny's another of those Asian women paradoxes. She's in her late 40's. I think quite a few of the popular providers actual ages would be surprising.
Cosmic Kid
09-11-17, 23:32
Shiny's another of those Asian women paradoxes. She's in her late 40's. I think quite a few of the popular providers actual ages would be surprising.What really gets me is, quite a number of these women smoke cigarettes (including Shiny and even Monica), and smoking is claimed to a sure way to age skin fast, adding years to a woman's looks. Yet, these lady's appearance of relative youth and health remains an impressive feat, almost a crime against nature. Other than surgery, my speculation is, it just has to be something about all the sex they get on a daily basis, and all the orgasms, continually boosting hormone production into high gear, is keeping the female body chemistry in top shape. Sex as the fountain of youth. If this concept could be successfully marketed to women seeking the secret of eternal youth, the missing component, there might be a sudden flood of new female talent in the AMPs, from all ethnicities too! "Become a sex provider in an AMP and end up looking ten years younger in no time!" LOL.
Don't you think so?
Especially east asians. (japanese, korean and Chinese).
I've been following the threads for a while now. I'm to the point where I'm ready to pull the trigger. Looking for a provider recommendation for a first time AMP experience. The Backpage girls make me nervous for LE. Any advice would be welcomed.
I've been following the threads for a while now. I'm to the point where I'm ready to pull the trigger. Looking for a provider recommendation for a first time AMP experience. The Backpage girls make me nervous for LE. Any advice would be welcomed.Only you know your particular personal preferences in women. As you may have noticed from reading the forum, various mongers have a wide range of different likes and dislikes regarding women. So without knowing your personal preferences, guys will most likely recommend providers who best fit their preferences, which may not be the same as your preferences. It's like asking a vague, general question such as "What car should I buy?" or "At what restaurant should I eat?"
Here's a previous suggestion from another thread that might be helpful:
If you want to visit Happiness but are "not sure who" to choose, here's a suggestion. Just make a checklist of factors you desire in a provider and factors you don't want in a provider. Then read the reviews of the current Happiness providers, and for each provider, check the boxes of her desirable factors (in your opinion) and her undesirable factors (in your opinion). For example, a desirable factor might be bbfs (if that's what you prefer) and an undesirable factor could be fake breasts (if that's something you dislike). Then balance the desirable factors against the undesirable factors for each provider, and rank the providers by their scores. Of course it's not a perfect system, but it will enable an inexperienced AMP monger to overcome hesitancy and indecision.
How about Dallas she's 39. You would never know right? Imagine that almost 40. Nani 44 OMG she's in perfect shape that is unbelievable so it is scary with botox and plastic some of the providers we think are young are actually up there in age. Whatever it is if the pussy feels good no matter. Like Junko is 50's or probably Monica but damn when you hit it it all ends up the same LOL. You blow your wad and its done.Age is just a number. 20 years ago, there is no way I would want to fuck a girl over 40. Now, 50 is the new 30. There plenty of girls in their 50's I would gladly fuck. Junko comes to mind.
40 is now still considered young especially if the girl takes care of herself.
Various opinions on age are better than no information on age at all. But nothing beats a real picture that isn't a glam photo.
Viet Whisperer
09-19-17, 19:12
Age is just a number. 20 years ago, there is no way I would want to fuck a girl over 40. Now, 50 is the new 30. There plenty of girls in their 50's I would gladly fuck. Junko comes to mind.
40 is now still considered young especially if the girl takes care of herself.
Various opinions on age are better than no information on age at all. But nothing beats a real picture that isn't a glam photo.Best indicators of age I've found is hands, knees, and elbows. No one has work done in those places generally. A facelift and a nice rack can distract you into misjudging by 20 years at times.
Best indicators of age I've found is hands, knees, and elbows. No one has work done in those places generally. A facelift and a nice rack can distract you into misjudging by 20 years at times.Yes...and also look at her neck.
In your opinion who is the best kisser out there in AMPland? As in who really gets into it and seems to enjoy that aspect of foreplay? No Chinese style stick out your tongue or LFK. I'm talking passionate DFK.
In your opinion who is the best kisser out there in AMPland? As in who really gets into it and seems to enjoy that aspect of foreplay? No Chinese style stick out your tongue or LFK. I'm talking passionate DFK.Stella at happiness: soft and slow way.
Next was: binn at nirvana (when she was not burnt out).
Monica and paula the nunas (olda sista in korean) : their way was aggressive.
Miri Kitani
09-20-17, 05:59
In your opinion who is the best kisser out there in AMPland? As in who really gets into it and seems to enjoy that aspect of foreplay? No Chinese style stick out your tongue or LFK. I'm talking passionate DFK.Serena at Vanilla Spa, she really gets into it.
In your opinion who is the best kisser out there in AMPland? As in who really gets into it and seems to enjoy that aspect of foreplay? No Chinese style stick out your tongue or LFK. I'm talking passionate DFK.Of the AMP providers whom I've recently visited, Suji of Roses stands out as an especially good DFKer. However, I'm a multiple repeat customer with her, so I'm not aware of whether an unknown customer would receive the same quality of kissing.
Although I don't know if Bonnie is still at Kison, in July of this year I posted: "Then I told Bonnie that I liked kissing, and after she warmed up with some light practice kisses and some coaching from me, it was passionate DFK all the way. Indeed, Bonnie was a 'Hall of Fame' kisser, both in quantity and quality. She seemed as turned on by the DFK as I was, and gave me as much as I wanted for as long as I wanted it for the remainder of the one-hour session".
I also don't know if Yuna is still at Kison, but in June of this year I posted: "Yuna's excellent kissing deserves a separate paragraph. She was one of the best kissers I've experienced at any AMP. After she learned that I like romantic DFK, her kissing was deep and sensual. Three factors that made it particularly enjoyable were (1) the long duration of the kissing; (2) the fact that she sometimes initiated the kissing herself instead of waiting for me to do so; and (3) how she sometimes placed her hand on the back of my neck or head to draw me closer, just like an affectionate girlfriend would do. She was also very good at neck licking and neck kissing (the soft type that doesn't leave any telltale marks afterward)".
Serena at Vanilla Spa, she really gets into it.Thanks for the recommendation. Hardly any reviews for her on the Vanilla thread so I had to look it up elsewhere. I am definitely intrigued to say the least.
MoonPrincess
10-03-17, 21:44
I'm looking for a new AMP and I'm wondering if you guys have an option of which place is best. When I say best I'm talking discreet, safe, clean, and I would like to work with a good staff. I figured who could know better than you guys. I would really appreciate it.
V.
I'm looking for a new AMP and I'm wondering if you guys have an option of which place is best. When I say best I'm talking discreet, safe, clean, and I would like to work with a good staff. I figured who could know better than you guys. I would really appreciate it.
V.1. do you have legal status in america? Citizenship or greencard? Then your choice is 90% of AMPs. Working permit may restrict your choice.
It may be difficult for you to find new place if you are new to hawaii without legal status now. Now bust is concentrating on owners combines with ice / irs issue. Owners knows that so they will not take risk. Even though you are super young hottie, your choice will be limited.
2. working time: 24 hr place or place that negotiate working hoyrs?
3. coworkers: do you want to avoid / be with certain ethnicity?
4. your service level: most place respect your own way of YMMV. So place with hard core girls doesn't mean you must do the same things. (Some is told they force girls to do things but the owner, manage there will let you know before you start working there).
5. customers: you want quick rotation with "see you today then good bye" tourists? Or you want locals (service time / level may be higher but they can be your loyal customers for years).
6. AMP condition: you mind small bedroom? You mind room sharing with coworkers?
If you give more detail, you will get better infos.
CoolDude44
10-04-17, 00:38
Thanks for the recommendation. Hardly any reviews for her on the Vanilla thread so I had to look it up elsewhere. I am definitely intrigued to say the least.Serena at Vanilla used to be Vivian at Dream Therapy. Very good looking girl. Fun to be with. Service all covered but still excellent service. YMMV.
I'm looking for a new AMP and I'm wondering if you guys have an option of which place is best. When I say best I'm talking discreet, safe, clean, and I would like to work with a good staff. I figured who could know better than you guys. I would really appreciate it.
V.In addition to the helpful factors listed by DeMeter, you might also want to evaluate whether you would rather be a "big fish in a small pond" or a "smaller fish in a bigger pond". If you choose a prominent AMP that already has multiple "celebrity" providers, you may be considered a lower-profile provider, whereas at a more commonplace AMP, you may have a better chance at becoming a "star" provider. Up to you.
Serena at Vanilla used to be Vivian at Dream Therapy. Very good looking girl. Fun to be with. Service all covered but still excellent service. YMMV.Yup! Serena at Vanilla is one of those sites that is a must see while in Hawaii! Attractive, good attitude and good time!
These old women should retire from this business. Give the young girls a chance.As usual, the freedom of choice produced by free-market economics works well. Customers aren't handcuffed to a bed at gunpoint and forced to have sex with "old women" providers against the customers' will, lol. If a customer considers an "old woman" provider undesirable, he can just politely decline to have a session with her. Yet, many customers -- especially older customers -- sometimes enjoy "mature" providers. For example, the "Mature Asian Providers in Honolulu" thread has more than 1,800 posts. So if an older woman still has customers who are voluntarily willing to pay their hard-earned money for her services, there's no reason for her to "retire from this business" if she doesn't want to do so. Plus, "old women" don't need to retire in order to "give the young girls a chance". First, there's no set limit on the number of providers who can work. Second, there are thousands of guys who enjoy "young girls," so "young girls" will have customers regardless of whether "old women" retire.
Idusixtyning
10-19-17, 16:09
As usual, the freedom of choice produced by free-market economics works well. Customers aren't handcuffed to a bed at gunpoint and forced to have sex with "old women" providers against the customers' will, lol. If a customer considers an "old woman" provider undesirable, he can just politely decline to have a session with her. Yet, many customers -- especially older customers -- sometimes enjoy "mature" providers. For example, the "Mature Asian Providers in Honolulu" thread has more than 1,800 posts. So if an older woman still has customers who are voluntarily willing to pay their hard-earned money for her services, there's no reason for her to "retire from this business" if she doesn't want to do so. Plus, "old women" don't need to retire in order to "give the young girls a chance". First, there's no set limit on the number of providers who can work. Second, there are thousands of guys who enjoy "young girls," so "young girls" will have customers regardless of whether "old women" retire.Just wanted to add that I think the presence of providers in their 30's to 40's helps to keep the standard fee in place which has been pretty much the same for at least a decade or more.
As usual, the freedom of choice produced by free-market economics works well. Customers aren't handcuffed to a bed at gunpoint and forced to have sex with "old women" providers against the customers' will, lol. If a customer considers an "old woman" provider undesirable, he can just politely decline to have a session with her. Yet, many customers -- especially older customers -- sometimes enjoy "mature" providers. For example, the "Mature Asian Providers in Honolulu" thread has more than 1,800 posts. So if an older woman still has customers who are voluntarily willing to pay their hard-earned money for her services, there's no reason for her to "retire from this business" if she doesn't want to do so. Plus, "old women" don't need to retire in order to "give the young girls a chance". First, there's no set limit on the number of providers who can work. Second, there are thousands of guys who enjoy "young girls," so "young girls" will have customers regardless of whether "old women" retire.Completely agree.
Supply, meet demand.
Best indicators of age I've found is hands, knees, and elbows. No one has work done in those places generally. A facelift and a nice rack can distract you into misjudging by 20 years at times.Braddahs Goser and VW; both respected seniors, I agree with you both. What does age have to do with anything? Seriously now if I bang a chick 29 < I feel like I doing something illegal LOL no get me wrong get some hotties in my office I would love to shoot um in the face. In the puss. All over. I look at the eyes too. Sometimes they have the crows feet even though during the low red light like braddah RN1 always says, sometimes hard to tell. No matta. Main thing is the service and attitude, IMHO. Again, YMMV. TEHO. Personally I craving Sasha again from that blue star spa. She's an animal. Brok my dick left me legs like jello.
StickyWeed
10-21-17, 17:04
I haven't been to an AMP in almost a year. Come back on here and BP and there seems to be a lot of new talent, or name changes. Can Someone point me in the right direction for provide on the younger side with decent service. Will post review if someone does, just so I can pay it forward.
What would be the going rate for overnight and / or a weekend getaway with a popular AMP girl?
Honolulu808
10-23-17, 18:01
What would be the going rate for overnight and / or a weekend getaway with a popular AMP girl?Overnight- 1000-2000.
Weekend- 3500+.
Honolulu Chas
10-23-17, 18:24
What would be the going rate for overnight and / or a weekend getaway with a popular AMP girl?According to a long-time Mama, this would probably run you over $1,000 per day. If the girl knows you. They would probably not go anywhere with a stranger.
Hope this helps.
Chas.
What would be the going rate for overnight and / or a weekend getaway with a popular AMP girl?Just add up on the average, how many guys at $150 a pop she services in one day, let alone the entire week end plus hotel, meals, drinks and plane fare? A couple thousand easy and to think spending one thousand = 5 separate visits to 5 different AMPs, resulting in emptying the sacs five different times.
Spartacus77
10-23-17, 20:35
What would be the going rate for overnight and / or a weekend getaway with a popular AMP girl?If your considering spending that kind of money for an allnighter, you should look into escorts who advertise that service. They charge considerably more, but you don't have to have an established relationship with them (of course expect to be screened and assurances on their part that you will pay that large sum).
Eros has a few right now in Hawaii. I saw one for 6,000 for 12 hours. Too rich for me but I'm sure the service would be commensurate with the price.
What would be the going rate for overnight and / or a weekend getaway with a popular AMP girl?Just multiply the number of hours the girl works by 200 and add the food, drinks, and gifts you going to buy. Plus the hotel. If she's top tier I would say 3 k at least. She not going to want to stay at a 150 a night hotel for sure. So xs that by 2 for weekend so I would say 6-7 k if you really want to do it right. Plus when the girl goes I'm pretty sure they have to pay house fee for the hours that she is out.
Just add up on the average, how many guys at $150 a pop she services in one day, let alone the entire week end plus hotel, meals, drinks and plane fare? A couple thousand easy and to think spending one thousand = 5 separate visits to 5 different AMPs, resulting in emptying the sacs five different times.If that one wanted 6 k for 12 hrs that's 500 per hour so way more than 150 for AMP. At that rate more like a 12 round gang bang 50 minute each round and 10 min to dooch shower eat & brush theeth for next round.
Contacted a atf white snow bunny thin tall freak who said fly her rt to Hawaii from west coast and can have her all weeekend for 1200. She's full on GFE dfk BBBJ bbfscip bbgreek she's a freak. But Boto too pake plus can only bust a nut so many times in a day with same girl before get boring. More better visit AMP for less or pake special pornhub jagg session for free.
Maybe if had more kala would consider it.
Eros has a few right now in Hawaii. I saw one for 6,000 for 12 hours. Too rich for me but I'm sure the service would be commensurate with the price.True, but keep in mind Eros usually runs ads for more upscale providers. They usually charge at least $300/ hr to start, usually more because they're touring.
But like you said, that's assuming they'd even do an overnighter. Most escorts who offer it do it only if they have history with the client.
Here's a prime example supporting the above-quoted opinion. A provider at Blue Star has received multiple reviews within the past week. Here are the different estimates of her age by various forum members, all of whom are senior members and experienced provider reviewers:
(a) "late 20's"
(b) "late twenties to early thirties"
(c) "probably mid-30's"
(d) "late 30's-early 40's"
(e) "she is late 40's"
So there you have it -- the provider is as young as late 20's, or as old as late 40's, or any age in between!Here's another example, even more funny, this time regarding various mongers' diverse age estimates of a provider at Pine Tree:
(a) "young lady".
(b) "about 30 ish".
(c) "she looks and feels like mid 30's".
(d) "Late 30's early 40's".
(e) "She isn't a youngin, I'd say mid 40's".
(f) "I am 100% sure she is not in her 50's. She is in her 40's".
(g) "don't be fooled into thinking that she's anything younger than 50".
(h) "over 50's".
(I) "she is a mature lady".
(j) "retirement age provider".
So there you have it -- the provider is either a "young lady," or in her thirties, or in her forties, or in her fifties, or even a "retirement age provider".
Perhaps like beauty, "age is in the eye of the beholder" (smile).
Today I was reading this interesting post about AMP providers:
I totally agree. In fact this has been an ongoing complaint of mine about some providers. I wasn't aware Lucky had put on weight. But as a general thing, I've never been able to understand the mindset of providers who somehow don't seem to realize putting a little effort into maintaining a trim body will positively impact their income stream. I suppose a few hobbyists are attracted to thick women but seems to me the majority of guys are not.With just a few revisions, the same could be said by an AMP provider about many AMP customers, including me:
"I totally agree. In fact this has been an ongoing complaint of mine about some (customers). I wasn't aware (Redneck) had put on weight. But as a general thing, I've never been able to understand the mindset of (customers) who somehow don't seem to realize putting a little effort into maintaining a trim body will positively impact their (AMP visits). I suppose a few (providers) are attracted to (fat guys), but it seems to me the majority of (providers) are not."
What's good for the goose is good for the gander, LOL.
Lonely Smiles
11-27-17, 23:54
Today I was reading this interesting post about AMP providers:
With just a few revisions, the same could be said by an AMP provider about many AMP customers, including me:
"I totally agree. In fact this has been an ongoing complaint of mine about some (customers). I wasn't aware (Redneck) had put on weight. But as a general thing, I've never been able to understand the mindset of (customers) who somehow don't seem to realize putting a little effort into maintaining a trim body will positively impact their (AMP visits). I suppose a few (providers) are attracted to (fat guys), but it seems to me the majority of (providers) are not."
What's good for the goose is good for the gander, LOL.Well played sir, LOL.
Honolulu69
11-28-17, 12:46
If your considering spending that kind of money for an allnighter, you should look into escorts who advertise that service. They charge considerably more, but you don't have to have an established relationship with them (of course expect to be screened and assurances on their part that you will pay that large sum).
Eros has a few right now in Hawaii. I saw one for 6,000 for 12 hours. Too rich for me but I'm sure the service would be commensurate with the price.How do you measure the service with the price, the hourly rate is more than 3 X of what AMP girl charges ($150), and a lot of AMP providers give damn good service and you may think sex can't be any better. It's just that their target customers are different, same dumplings priced huge different from street vendor and in a 5 start restaurant. And a lot of times the one you buy from street tastes even better LOL.
Cosmic Kid
11-28-17, 19:10
Today I was reading this interesting post about AMP providers:
With just a few revisions, the same could be said by an AMP provider about many AMP customers, including me:
"I totally agree. In fact this has been an ongoing complaint of mine about some (customers). I wasn't aware (Redneck) had put on weight. But as a general thing, I've never been able to understand the mindset of (customers) who somehow don't seem to realize putting a little effort into maintaining a trim body will positively impact their (AMP visits). I suppose a few (providers) are attracted to (fat guys), but it seems to me the majority of (providers) are not."
What's good for the goose is good for the gander, LOL.Red, my brother from another mother, I do believe you and I will most likely find it necessary to agree to disagree on this point. Your logic is missing a key component, IMHO. It's simply this: Us mongers are the ones who fork over the cold cash to the providers, not the other way around! So it is on the providers to look good for us, not vice versa. Plus, Redneck, I mean, you yourself seem to me to be a living breathing argument against your own viewpoint. On this board you have repeatedly mentioned you're a fat old fart, yet, for years you've have also been posting reviews saying you had a great time with this or that provider, AND SHE WITH YOU, in spite of your stated non-Brad looks. And I for one completely believe you tell the truth in your reports. Sure, I'm aware providers sometimes complain about mongers who are out of shape. I've heard this from a few providers, complaining to me about other mongers, not about me. But due to the direction of said monetary exchange, bottom line, we have a lot more right to complain about looks than do the providers. Just saying, bro.
Red, my brother from another mother, I do believe you and I will most likely find it necessary to agree to disagree on this point. Your logic is missing a key component, IMHO. It's simply this: Us mongers are the ones who fork over the cold cash to the providers, not the other way around! So it is on the providers to look good for us, not vice versa. Plus, Redneck, I mean, you yourself seem to me to be a living breathing argument against your own viewpoint. On this board you have repeatedly mentioned you're a fat old fart, yet, for years you've have also been posting reviews saying you had a great time with this or that provider, AND SHE WITH YOU, in spite of your stated non-Brad looks. And I for one completely believe you tell the truth in your reports. Sure, I'm aware providers sometimes complain about mongers who are out of shape. I've heard this from a few providers, complaining to me about other mongers, not about me. But due to the direction of said monetary exchange, bottom line, we have a lot more right to complain about looks than do the providers. Just saying, bro.It's for the few mongers who are so critical of the provider's body down to the smallest physical detail yet they themselves looks like shit. It reminds me of a fat slob friend of mine complaining about a KBG slight tummy. But you are right, you paid your buck 50 and you get to be whoever you want for one hour with someone who won't even look at you in real life.
ShootngStarBoy
08-04-18, 05:30
It's for the few mongers who are so critical of the provider's body down to the smallest physical detail yet they themselves looks like shit. It reminds me of a fat slob friend of mine complaining about a KBG slight tummy. But you are right, you paid your buck 50 and you get to be whoever you want for one hour with someone who won't even look at you in real life.You got that right! Wonder what the girls would rate the mongers on looks? Face? Body? Mongers attitude and personality? That would be interesting to know!
You got that right! Wonder what the girls would rate the mongers on looks? Face? Body? Mongers attitude and personality? That would be interesting to know!I have many AMP pro friends.
They used to say "handsome or rich men" are bir picky cause they just want easy quick boom boom to save time for BS romance mood making blah blah.
There are some model customes in local magazines and they are not picky. They have model gfs but those hotties are damn time consuming to make them take off panties so they just come and cum in any available easy hole. Then go to model gf.
And rich guys. To them 200 dollars for fun is not big deal so being picky is more wasting of time (and time is money and energy) so just enjoy available ones as he just chose not-perfect tour course.
LOL.
I am ugly with belly and not rich (once upon a time may be rich haha) but I am not picky and I am so gernerous of finding beauty from most natural born women.
Nephilim3000
08-04-18, 18:00
I have many AMP pro friends.
They used to say "handsome or rich men" are bir picky cause they just want easy quick boom boom to save time for BS romance mood making blah blah.
There are some model customes in local magazines and they are not picky. They have model gfs but those hotties are damn time consuming to make them take off panties so they just come and cum in any available easy hole. Then go to model gf.
And rich guys. To them 200 dollars for fun is not big deal so being picky is more wasting of time (and time is money and energy) so just enjoy available ones as he just chose not-perfect tour course.
LOL.
I am ugly with belly and not rich (once upon a time may be rich haha) but I am not picky and I am so gernerous of finding beauty from most natural born women.I am like you. Fat old and ugly. I'm short too. I love fucking hot girls. But you're right some of these mongers are models. Handsome guys with money. The girls have told me about these handsome guys with their model GF. I'm not picky because I know I'm uglier than you.
Anyone have a recommendation for a girl who doesn't smoke, allows BBFS CIP, and DDFK? I need DDFK but can't stand smoker's breath.
Below are excerpts from two recent AMP experiences that help to illustrate important points that have previously been discussed on the forum.
We searched the room again and after a few more panic moments, mama finally realized what happened: She let in one guy to a room, went to get two girls for him to chose from, and after he looked at them, immediately left. As we were looking for my wallet in the room, my phone gets an alert of someone using my cc at a McDonalds! So while mama was getting the girls, the prick motherfu_ker sneaks into my room and takes my wallet, pretends he's not interested in any of the girls and leaves.Regardless of how many times I've visited any particular AMP, I never leave my wallet in the bedroom when exiting the bedroom for a table shower, self shower, or any other reason. That leaves a monger at risk for theft of the wallet or any of its contents by a customer, a purported customer, or any woman at the AMP, especially a drug user or compulsive gambler. It also allows anyone to look at the information on a monger's driver's license, credit cards, etc. Personally, I take my wallet with me whenever leaving the bedroom. Another monger helpfully suggests using a fanny pack (containing your wallet) that you take with you whenever leaving the bedroom. Some mongers prefer the alternative of not taking their wallets into an AMP at all.
Great conversationalist, but 30 minutes spent talking is a bit much (I tipped $$. 5 up front).Remember, when any monger pays a provider (especially at an AMP known for arrogant, self-entitled providers) $250 in advance, the balance of power immediately shifts completely to the provider. So if she then decides to burn up half of the monger's limited time with "conversation" rather than sex, don't be surprised. Plus, don't expect any refund whatsoever for what is essentially half of a session.
EddyRockwell
11-21-18, 03:19
Ok, I'm sure that this may have been covered but I thought it could use a fresh assessment. Who's got the best ass in the AMP game. I'm not talking about who does greek (that is an extra bonus) but I'd love to sample a thick butt with the AMP price & customer service. Also, there should be a good butt to waist ratio. I'm sure thata woman over 300 lbs has a big ass butnot a nice one. I'll start by mentioning the great white Buffalo RIAA from Ace Spa.
I didn't know Korean women could be so thick. Riaa has a butt that is amazing and a couple of handfuls. My only problem was that a 7-8 inch junior limited the fun that we had. Any other contenders?
Ok, I'm sure that this may have been covered but I thought it could use a fresh assessment. Who's got the best ass in the AMP game. I'm not talking about who does greek (that is an extra bonus) but I'd love to sample a thick butt with the AMP price & customer service. Also, there should be a good butt to waist ratio. I'm sure thata woman over 300 lbs has a big ass butnot a nice one. I'll start by mentioning the great white Buffalo RIAA from Ace Spa.
I didn't know Korean women could be so thick. Riaa has a butt that is amazing and a couple of handfuls. My only problem was that a 7-8 inch junior limited the fun that we had. Any other contenders?Suji at Kison. She got nice ass.
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