Anything for bigger cum loads / multiples?

[John Dough]

I'm going to pick up some Magnesium glycinate / lysinate chelate. Just hearing the word estrogen makes me cringe and want to purge as much of it as I can. Hahaha.

I still believe prostate swelling is caused by estrogen build-up in the body, but I'm not having sufficient results from magnesium supplements. I'm going on a grain-free diet to see if that helps.

http://www.wheatbellyblog.com/2012/0...parton-effect/

A direct hormonal effectExorphins that are derived from the gliadin protein of wheat (specifically the B5 pentapeptide) stimulate pituitary release of the hormone, prolactin. Pro = promotes; lactin = lactation, or breast milk production. The B5 wheat exorphin doubles blood prolactin levels in experimental models (Fanciulli 2003). Increased prolactin levels then cascade, via a pituitary effect, to cause reduced production of testosterone by the testicles (hypogonadism), as well as erectile dysfunction.

An indirect hormonal effectThe visceral fat (deep abdominal fat) of a wheat bellyyeah, that unsightly protuberance that hangs over the belt in boys, teenagers, young males, mature adults, and elderly men, since it spares no oneproduces large quantities of the enzyme, aromatase, that in turn converts androgens (male hormones), androstenedione and testosterone, to estrogen (Williams 2012). This occurs in breast tissue as well as other tissues.

So men with man boobs have higher levels of estrogen and prolactin and lower levels of testosterone, a hormonal mess that stimulates growth of breast tissue. Given this incredible collection of breast tissue-stimulating properties, you might say that modern wheat is a perfect breast growth stimulating food.

[SimonPieMan]

I found this link to the "Holy Grail of Cum Load" and tried it:

https://www.thundersplace.org/male-s...-increase.html

The Cum Holy Grail.

(1) L-Arginine, 1000 mg 1 time daily = 1000 mg.

(2) Zinc, 50 mg 1 time daily = 50 mg.

(3) Pygeum, 100 mg 2 times daily = 200 mg.

(4) Lecithin, 1200 mg 1 time daily = 1200 mg.

Plus I added.

(5) Celery Seed 500 mg, 2 times daily = 1000 mg.

And YES this combo seems to work. After one week on the Cum Holy Grail, I unloaded a masterpiece on my girl's back the other night. It was impressive and satisfying. I'm over 50 and I don't think I've cum like that since I was 20.

Give it a try.

GB40.

Thanks for the info GB. I've been trying this combo but w / o the Pygeum. It appears to work really well.

SP.

[AllNuts]

I think all the below works great (I haven't tried Pygeum). I would also like to add Swedish Flower Pollen. Taking that with Zinc and L-Citrulline I would blow big loads (5-6 good 6"+ ropes) but you do have to keep up the regiment or you revert back to normal. I would also like to add Tongkat Ali and Butea Superba as I do think they also contribute to the intensity of the orgasm. I still haven't tried Shilajit yet as it's suppose to restore that "lost vigor" LOL. The last 3 supplements probably belong more in the "Performance Enhancers thread" but I wanted to mention them in this context.

I found this link to the "Holy Grail of Cum Load" and tried it:

https://www.thundersplace.org/male-s...-increase.html

The Cum Holy Grail.

(1) L-Arginine, 1000 mg 1 time daily = 1000 mg.

(2) Zinc, 50 mg 1 time daily = 50 mg.

(3) Pygeum, 100 mg 2 times daily = 200 mg.

(4) Lecithin, 1200 mg 1 time daily = 1200 mg.

Plus I added.

(5) Celery Seed 500 mg, 2 times daily = 1000 mg.

And YES this combo seems to work. After one week on the Cum Holy Grail, I unloaded a masterpiece on my girl's back the other night. It was impressive and satisfying. I'm over 50 and I don't think I've cum like that since I was 20.

Give it a try.

GB40.

This stuff really works!

I start taking a similar combination about 3 or so days before my planned activity, abstain the night before, and my loads are now about 3-4 times larger than before.

I can also go again within the hour and pop of a load that's still a little bit larger than before.

I'd also like to add that Saw Palmetto, B12 and L-Arginine will definitely help with getting it up and keeping it up.

For me it doesn't replace Viagra but it definitely helps and makes the Viagra work better.

[BillyBubba]

I found this link to the "Holy Grail of Cum Load" and tried it:

https://www.thundersplace.org/male-s...-increase.html

The Cum Holy Grail.

(1) L-Arginine, 1000 mg 1 time daily = 1000 mg.

(2) Zinc, 50 mg 1 time daily = 50 mg.

(3) Pygeum, 100 mg 2 times daily = 200 mg.

(4) Lecithin, 1200 mg 1 time daily = 1200 mg.

Plus I added.

(5) Celery Seed 500 mg, 2 times daily = 1000 mg.

And YES this combo seems to work. After one week on the Cum Holy Grail, I unloaded a masterpiece on my girl's back the other night. It was impressive and satisfying. I'm over 50 and I don't think I've cum like that since I was 20.

Give it a try.

GB40.

This stuff really works!

I start taking a similar combination about 3 or so days before my planned activity, abstain the night before, and my loads are now about 3-4 times larger than before.

I can also go again within the hour and pop of a load that's still a little bit larger than before.

I'd also like to add that Saw Palmetto, B12 and L-Arginine will definitely help with getting it up and keeping it up.

For me it doesn't replace Viagra but it definitely helps and makes the Viagra work better.

[John Dough]

I found this article which offers some techniques to reduce the refractory period:

http://bignaturaltesticles.com/how-t...ore-than-once/

That waiting period between one climax and another is called your refractory period. studies have demonstrated that prolactin and oxytocin play a big part in this because both of these hormones increase dramatically after you ejaculate. your sex drive is going to go down. Theyre also responsible for the fatigue you feel after you have an orgasm.

In one study done at Rutgers University, they had a subject who was able to climax 6 times in a period of 36 minutes. This man actually had no refractory period at all. Testing confirmed that this individual had close to a zero prolactin response after climaxing, and because of this he suffered from no fatigue or tiredness after he ejaculated.

to reduce your refractory period, the first thing you need to do is bump your testosterone levels up a notch or two. In addition to this, you need to focus on reducing your prolactin and oxytocin response when your goal is to ejaculate more than once during a sexual encounter. You can accomplish this by reducing post orgasm cuddle time, because this behavior will spike both of these hormones in your body.

As a matter of fact, oxytocin is often referred to as the pair bonding hormone, so the more you bond after sex, the more oxytocin youre going to get. And finally, you can spike testosterone and reduce the bonding hormones even further by being dominant and aggressive during the sex act..

Because dominant and aggressive behavior is the exact opposite of behavior associated with pair bonding, and your body will respond to this accordingly. The explains why its always a good idea to jump out of bed quickly after having sex in the morning, because if you pair bond after you climax, youre going to be tired the rest of the day.

For a more medicinal approach there is some good information here:

http://phalloboards.websitetoolbox.c...-night-6056619

There are ways to reduce prolactin and be ready to go again within 5-10 minutes. I know from personal experience... as I am 39 years old and can outperform most teenagers.

This is easily combated by the Rx Cabergoline/Dostinex/Cabaser or Pramipexole. It does take some time (week or two) to elevate blood levels of Cabergoline so that you can fu*k like a teenager (or likely better ;-)) While on Cabergoline, my refractory period is approximately 5 minutes or less. Sometimes, I don't even want to pull out; just go for it all over again.

Usually people report that half a tab every 4 days is enough to cause the desired increase in sex drive and libido. However, some prefer a full tab every 4 days. One bottle of Dostinex contains 8 tabs. If you take 1 tab every 4 days, it will last you about a month. If you decide to use just half a tab each time, it will last about two months.

Dostinex is very different from Viagra. Viagra is a medication specifically for erectile dysfunction. Viagra will do absolutely nothing for other essential aspects of good sexual function such as libido (sex drive, arousal & excitement), orgasm and ejaculation. Dostinex does everything that Viagra doesn't do. Dostinex improves libido, orgasm and ejaculation. Dostinex is a new drug from the dopaminergic family of drugs that decreases the hormone prolactin.

Vitamin B-6 in its pure form (called p5p) helps reduce prolactin as well. B6 does help as does the herb mucuna pruriens (which is more effective). However, nothing is as potent as cabergoline. As far as lasting side effects are concerned, I have zero and none were shown in clinical trials. It has been used in parkinson's patients for years. The combo of cabergoline and PT-141 is great and very effective. The great thing about mucuna pruriens is that it also boosts dopamine in the brain and reduces SHBG (sex hormone binding globulin) which binds/cleaves to testosterone rendering it inactive. Most testosterone is bound by SHBG or is converted by aromatase into estrogen, DHT, etc. Free testosterone is what you are after. Stinging nettle root is also a potent SHBG binding herb. Mucuna pruriens is the herbal equivalent of cabergoline.

[Oldmonger]

You might want to try l-citrulline in place of arginine. L-arginine is broken down very quickly by the liver when taken orally so not much of it survives to circulate in the bloodstream. L-citrulline survives the digestive process and is converted to L-arginine in the Kidneys which release it directly to the bloodstream thus increasing serum levels much more than taking L-arginine directly.

I take l-citrulline vs l-arginine for the reasons you stated.

L-citrulline might contribute indirectly to a bigger payload, but unlike lecithin, I'm not aware of a direct connection.

[VB012]

I continue to be amazed by this combination (The Holy Grail of Cum Load) - supplements listed above. I recently shot a HUGE load down a girls throat and it choked her pretty good. She couldn't believe I came so much. It was quite satisfying, Try it.

GB40.

You might want to try l-citrulline in place of arginine. L-arginine is broken down very quickly by the liver when taken orally so not much of it survives to circulate in the bloodstream. L-citrulline survives the digestive process and is converted to L-arginine in the Kidneys which release it directly to the bloodstream thus increasing serum levels much more than taking L-arginine directly.

[Gigabyte40]

I found this link to the "Holy Grail of Cum Load" and tried it:

https://www.thundersplace.org/male-s...-increase.html

The Cum Holy Grail.

(1) L-Arginine, 1000 mg 1 time daily = 1000 mg.

(2) Zinc, 50 mg 1 time daily = 50 mg.

(3) Pygeum, 100 mg 2 times daily = 200 mg.

(4) Lecithin, 1200 mg 1 time daily = 1200 mg.

Plus I added.

(5) Celery Seed 500 mg, 2 times daily = 1000 mg.

And YES this combo seems to work. After one week on the Cum Holy Grail, I unloaded a masterpiece on my girl's back the other night. It was impressive and satisfying. I'm over 50 and I don't think I've cum like that since I was 20.

Give it a try.

GB40.

I continue to be amazed by this combination (The Holy Grail of Cum Load) - supplements listed above. I recently shot a HUGE load down a girls throat and it choked her pretty good. She couldn't believe I came so much. It was quite satisfying, Try it.

GB40.

[Oldmonger]

I have been taking all kinds of vitamins,(d3,mag, fish oil, saw palmetto), Put in a little tan helper "see", when needed. Question my cum load is greater now then when I was in my 20's! , for a 60's old monger is this normal? Besides the load, it has a very lite yellow cast to it?? I can recover in a short period of time also??Less then half hour, same volume as the first pop??When I take a half "see"20) it seems to take hours to kick in, no matter what I eat, drink, when I take it, Any help? Drk.

DarkSideOfMe,

Given your success, you should be giving advice vs. asking for it. Most of us would mortgage the house if we could increase payload and shorten recovery time.

Based on discussions with more than a dozen guys, it appears C takes longer than V and L, to take full effect. If you take the C a few hours (vs. 30 minutes) before the activity, on an empty stomach, you may get better results. YMMV.

Not sure if I answered your question.

OM.

[Gigabyte40]

http://www.thundersplace.org/male-su...ections-2.html

"Celery seeds work for me really well. They give me semi hard-ons all day, larger ejaculation volume and great morning wood. It is incredibly cheap and readily available everywhere".

"I've been taking them for a few days now and I have had better morning wood and farther distance on ejaculation".

I found this link to the "Holy Grail of Cum Load" and tried it:

https://www.thundersplace.org/male-s...-increase.html

The Cum Holy Grail.

(1) L-Arginine, 1000 mg 1 time daily = 1000 mg.

(2) Zinc, 50 mg 1 time daily = 50 mg.

(3) Pygeum, 100 mg 2 times daily = 200 mg.

(4) Lecithin, 1200 mg 1 time daily = 1200 mg.

Plus I added.

(5) Celery Seed 500 mg, 2 times daily = 1000 mg.

And YES this combo seems to work. After one week on the Cum Holy Grail, I unloaded a masterpiece on my girl's back the other night. It was impressive and satisfying. I'm over 50 and I don't think I've cum like that since I was 20.

Give it a try.

GB40.

[DarkSideOfMe]

Nice job on the prostate discussion John. I have found that most any and all of the aforementioned remedies helped me when I was younger. Zinc, Swedish Flower Pollen Etc. I could within a few days definitely notice the difference. Nowadays not so much. Keep up the good research.

G2.

Get your self a good, I stress (good) providers, who knows how to give a prostate massage, you will feel much better. The prostate provides the acid that go's in first, before your cum load. A good friend of mine a retired DICK Dr. (old time 45 years) , said that a prostate massage once a month is like magic, it will release that build up that is causing all your prostate problems. You also need to" get off "as much as you can, keep the blood, acid, moving, in, out of the prostate. Drk try it.

[MwmChicago]

Probably Lecithin for the load volume. I tried it and it made somewhat of an increase. I think one of the biggest things for a good load is to stay hydrated.

L-Arginine is good for circulation so it will help on erections. I noticed more urgent morning wood when taking it, and my cock seemed to feel thicker and looked more veiny than usual.

Lecithin works really well fr me. I found my volume to be 3-4 times greater when I take it and it makes the orgasms longer and more intense!

[DarkSideOfMe]

I have been taking all kinds of vitamins,(d3,mag, fish oil, saw palmetto), Put in a little tan helper "see", when needed. Question my cum load is greater now then when I was in my 20's! , for a 60's old monger is this normal? Besides the load, it has a very lite yellow cast to it?? I can recover in a short period of time also??Less then half hour, same volume as the first pop??When I take a half "see"20) it seems to take hours to kick in, no matter what I eat, drink, when I take it, Any help? Drk.

[Genghis2]

I tried Swedish Flower Pollen Extract. I took two capsules a day. For two weeks there was no change, then suddenly my semen volume increased. My ropes increased from about 6 or 7 up to at least 12. I never got 18. Maybe it depends on how much pollen you take. There was no improvement in my prostate swelling and night time bathroom visits.

I have been researching the prostate issue. I believe it is caused by a build up of estrogen. One time I took Korean red ginseng. It made my prostate swell badly. I could barely squeeze out any urine from my bladder. Supposedly ginseng is estrogenic. The main theory I have found is that estrogen levels gradually build up as men age. This is because the body lacks the necessary raw materials for the cleansing process to remove the estrogen. The item most lacking is the mineral magnesium. For the last few years I have managed to halt the gradual age related worsening of my prostate swelling with magnesium supplements. Recently I have increased my dose and seem to be reducing the swelling and nightly bathroom visits. The trick is to get a supplement that is well absorbed. Magnesium glycinate / lysinate chelate is best. Look for one that says it is fully reacted, not buffered and has the TRAACS logo from Albion Laboratories, such as Doctor's Best High Absorpion magnesium brand. These are best absorbed and cause the least diarrhea, which is the main side effect of magnesium. I was taking about 200 to 300 mg per day but now I'm taking twice that much and getting better results. Before I found these I tried many different types and brands and they all caused so much diarrhea that I couldn't take them.

Nice job on the prostate discussion John. I have found that most any and all of the aforementioned remedies helped me when I was younger. Zinc, Swedish Flower Pollen Etc. I could within a few days definitely notice the difference. Nowadays not so much. Keep up the good research.

G2.

[Fe Maiden]

I'm going to pick up some Magnesium glycinate / lysinate chelate. Just hearing the word estrogen makes me cringe and want to purge as much of it as I can. Hahaha.

Broccoli and other cruciferous veggies help eliminate estrogen.