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  1. #3124
    One thing I have noticed for a long time, is that it's much easier to get the pretty girls than the average ones. I am sure we could wrtite books about why this is, but it doesn't really matter why. So guys, up your preferences a little. Date out of your league a few points. (or what you think is out of your league, but really isn't). You might be surprised at how much nicer some of these girls can be.

  2. #3123
    Quote Originally Posted by DavidTheSancho  [View Original Post]
    Has anyone ever been catfished pretty badly? Messaged a really pretty 20 year old. I was expecting gps but she hit me with $$ per date. She even sent me her social media to look at pics. Seemed a little to good to be true but meeting up this week, hopefully my organs aren't removed. For some reason I just have a weird feeling.
    As often as they may not look as good as their pics, many times they look even better. Take the plunge.

  3. #3122
    Quote Originally Posted by DavidTheSancho  [View Original Post]
    Has anyone ever been catfished pretty badly? Messaged a really pretty 20 year old. I was expecting gps but she hit me with $$ per date. She even sent me her social media to look at pics. Seemed a little to good to be true but meeting up this week, hopefully my organs aren't removed. For some reason I just have a weird feeling.
    IDK what you are afraid of. Local info is good, so I am glad to see a substantive comment in this forum instead of one of the national ones. I have ben catfished a few times in SoCal in the past 2+ years I have been on SA. It was always w / profile photos that were blurry, old, or otherwise unclear. One take is that this was someone very concerned about her identity getting out. Anyway, how I got catfished by them is I spent a long time messaging, I thought establishing a basis for interactions, and then set up M&G. However, they didn't show, there were all kinds of excuses, etc. , I got fooled into going to another M&G, and it happened again. This is someone presenting themselves as available for an arrangement who isn't. I get hints about this kind of thing by checking up on the background of the POT. Social media is good, using search engines on their #s is another. I put their # in my phone, and snapchat or kik will find them in its users and show the profile. Literally, I have seen a profile of a 20's male matched up w / a very beautiful girl from a website (not SA in that particular case, BTW). So, catfishing does happen, but it is just a time-waster, no personal safety risk.

  4. #3121
    Has anyone ever been catfished pretty badly? Messaged a really pretty 20 year old. I was expecting gps but she hit me with $$ per date. She even sent me her social media to look at pics. Seemed a little to good to be true but meeting up this week, hopefully my organs aren't removed. For some reason I just have a weird feeling.

  5. #3120
    Quote Originally Posted by Tipisil  [View Original Post]
    Poor whispy girl. And here I am with too many funds that I have taken to visiting MP's for some added flavor in my life.
    So I saw the wispy girl today. What a disappointment. About the weakest trip to the FC I can recall in a very long time. Even at a $ it was almost a waste of money, except for really needing to get off. I won't be seeing her again. And we had so much fun the first time. Some girls just shouldn't be in this game, (she even said as much herself) and the hunt goes on.

    I would have to say my not so new little girl is now my ATF. The girl that was my ATF for like a solid 2 years is basically out of the picture. Which is fine as we made over 200 trips to the FC. But the honeymoon was over a long time ago. I really need to start earning again soon so I can interview more often. Because this is a numbers game. Sometimes I forget that. The real gems are far, few and in between.

  6. #3119
    The 5 Steps in a Nutshell.

    1 - Intro Letter. Talk about yourself and what you have to offer in general terms. End the letter with a question or let them know they should get back to you if everything sounds ok so far. Never re-try if they do not respond unless they are your specific type. Then let them know that and try one more time only.

    2 - If they reply. Ask them what their financial expectations are and also let them know you are not a big spender but that you can add value in other ways. End the letter with a question or let them know that if that sounds ok to get back to you.

    3 - If they reply. Let them know you have even more added value besides the donation and then let them know what your donation amount is.

    4 a. If they reply that everything sounds good so far. Then move them to email or txt. I always go to email first in case things don't work out, then they do not have my cell phone number. Use a disposable email address that's only for SA.

    4 b. If they want to negotiate. Me personally I never negotiate, if you do it once you will do it twice and it will take you off your game. I just wish them well and then sometimes they will give in, but mostly they don't.

    5 - Now that you have them on email, get specific about what your intimacy expectations are. If they are in agreement move them to txt and set a date.

    Once I have them on email I give them the choice of a platonic M&G or a paid date. I never ask for intercourse to take the pressure off. But I find all UTR's are happy to oblige without asking and that 50% of SB's also happily oblige. I will give an SB one paid date sans intercourse to make up her mind. But usually if they don't go all the way on the first date they never will. Usually but not always. Use your best judgement.

    Under no circumstances pay for anything more than normal dating expenses for a platonic date. If you give a girl a $ thinking you will get lucky the next time, you are deluding yourself. Most girls know that if a guy does this they can work a G or two out of him before he gets angry and tells her to F off. There are exceptions to every rule, but too few to take the chance, and too many willing girls to have to. And however hot any girl is there are 10 more just as hot. And hot on the outside is no indication of how hot they are on the inside.

  7. #3118
    Quote Originally Posted by HollywoodGuy  [View Original Post]
    There was a time when I gave away the keys to the kingdom. But then I deleted all reference to it. That was maybe 5 years ago. Truth is I still follow the same format, just somewhat refined it, but its probably about 90% the same.
    Well then, that is very useful information for me.

  8. #3117
    Quote Originally Posted by GoodBoy88  [View Original Post]
    What introduction template? I could use a better opener, my game is pretty dry.
    There was a time when I gave away the keys to the kingdom. But then I deleted all reference to it. That was maybe 5 years ago. Truth is I still follow the same format, just somewhat refined it, but its probably about 90% the same.

  9. #3116
    Quote Originally Posted by Falar  [View Original Post]
    Shout out to Hollywood Guy you're a legend. I started out with your introduction template and eventually develop my own. While I'm still not as successful as you, it's getting better. Especially with me starting to identify my particular target and type instead of casting a net over everything.
    What introduction template? I could use a better opener, my game is pretty dry.

  10. #3115
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    Quote Originally Posted by HollywoodGuy  [View Original Post]
    So today I made 3 dates. 10 am with a skittish newbie. 1 pm with my not so new little girl. And 4 pm with my new wispy girl. Sure enough the skittish newbie cancelled. But I did see my not so new little girl for a few hours this afternoon. So I had to cancel on the wispy girl. I don't think she was too happy, as she is basically dead broke. But sometimes you gotta overbook to guarantee that trip to the FC.

    Here's a couple pics I took today of my not so new little girl. All 5.2 and 105 lbs of her.
    Poor whispy girl. And here I am with too many funds that I have taken to visiting MP's for some added flavor in my life.

  11. #3114
    Shout out to Hollywood Guy you're a legend. I started out with your introduction template and eventually develop my own. While I'm still not as successful as you, it's getting better. Especially with me starting to identify my particular target and type instead of casting a net over everything.

  12. #3113
    What about this version of thickness? 21
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  13. #3112
    Quote Originally Posted by Hundred  [View Original Post]
    She looks like a nonpro like church girl. First time you posted a face picture by the way. Maybe looking for some provenance?
    Its sorta blocked. And I decided to pass on her. I got a new 19 spinner I am working on for the weekend. I got 3 days coming up with no GF. I would love to see my new wispy girl, and for sure the white latina is available (she is actually the most available). I wish she was cute, because she is a genuinely good lover and has a quirky but pleasant personality. I put my not so new little girl up in nice motel last nite. Rodeway on olympic. Got two trips to the FC. Last nite and then this morning.

  14. #3111

    Nonpro

    Quote Originally Posted by HollywoodGuy  [View Original Post]
    This one says she is down to meet. She is 5.2 and mid twenties. Would this girl be on YOUR radar?

    I am just not a good judge of thickness.
    She looks like a nonpro like church girl. First time you posted a face picture by the way. Maybe looking for some provenance?

  15. #3110
    Quote Originally Posted by SnookBoy  [View Original Post]
    I hear it's for platonic dates only. It is everything I try to avoid.
    Alright thanks everyone for the input. I've gotten a lot of response on that site from too many hot girls so I guess I'll toftt and report back if anything pans out. The membership price structure seems aggressive and greedy. I get the feeling I'm about to be very dissapointed. Still if even on of these alleged "bid offers" is legit it would be more thank worth the investment, because god DAMN these chicks are hot some these offers are low as fuck. I'm thinking this can't be real, but we'll see about it. I'm going to see if I can get some numbers and I'll ask if I could "refer to a friend" and then drop it here.

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