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[Snood273]

I suppose in some ways I am lucky, because I am more about the visuals than the performance. I'd rather have a nice looking girl with a great ass give me an "eh" blowjob than having someone I find "eh" attractive give me a great blowjob. So fortunately for me, I can see if my needs will be met when she answers the door. I still read reviews for indications of Good service and hygiene, and both of those also occur, that is icing on the cake.

[Matt574]

Sounds like you have had a change of heart and are now "all in" regarding the hobby. Would you no longer recommend to the newbies who come here seeking advice to avoid the hobby altogether and to take up fly fishing instead? LOL.

No, and not sure how you would assume that. The recent discussion was in refeerence to the discussion of price and quality, not whether a newbie should jump into the hobby. I would still advise a newbie to collect stamps, skydive or do something else other than get into this hobby for many, many reasons including all the ones mentioned about the addictive considerations and the fact that one is helping to perpetuate the miseries of others when one is involved in this business. I think that is the best advice for anyone.

But personally, when its my time to leave this world, I hope my face is buried between the thighs of a supermodel hooker.

[Visionary11]

Wise words are wise. Pretty much spot on. Admitted my addiction a long time ago. Fuck, even did the therapy route. Needless to say, which won out on my end. LOL.

Those 3 key points are so true. A perfect guideline and serve as a very helpful reminder of expectations. I too can relate to feeling addicted. I did a very basic search for 12 step programs. But somehow always step back here!

[Raige614]

I prefer a variety of $1,000/ hour hookers. .

Sounds like you have had a change of heart and are now "all in" regarding the hobby. Would you no longer recommend to the newbies who come here seeking advice to avoid the hobby altogether and to take up fly fishing instead? LOL.

[Matt574]

Based on my personal experiences, there's practically nil correlation to money (cost) and experienced satisfaction within the hobby. (The qualifier is street trash. If they were free I'd still never mess with them.).

I pay for looks. The most I've ever given a provider for one experience (an overnight counts as one experience) is $1,200. She's an Instagram fitness model and drove over three hours each way to me, and spent the night.

Was it worth it? Yes. Would I do it again? Yes. With her? No. Why? Because I only care about "next. ".

Next can be an $80/ ss STG motel-squatter, or an escort-model I pay to come up here from NYC.

A high is a high. A hit is a hit. Next is next.

The key to enjoying the hobby, and almost never being disappointed is:

1) low expectations.

2) desiring variety.

3) researched and mitigated-risk providers.

I go for young (18-25) and attractive (fit / petite / pretty). If a provider is reasonably close to those metrics, and she's new to me, then: 1) if my cock interacts with her 2) and my DNA is relinquished, I'm happy. Simple as that. Those are the only expectations.

I heavily screen and take much precaution before I meet anyone. There's always some risk, but I minimize it by following my rules.

So the cost of the provider has nothing to do with my satisfaction. Forget about the money, and just have fun.

And in terms of being an addict: we're all addicted. We all have problems. We're all broken. I have no advice to the addicts on how to quit. Only on how to be a better addict.

I prefer a variety of $1,000/ hour hookers. .

[Raige614]

Wise words are wise. Pretty much spot on. Admitted my addiction a long time ago. Fuck, even did the therapy route. Needless to say, which won out on my end. LOL.

Did you find the cure to be worse than the disease?

LOL!

[Irishbastard]

Based on my personal experiences, there's practically nil correlation to money (cost) and experienced satisfaction within the hobby. (The qualifier is street trash. If they were free I'd still never mess with them.).

I pay for looks. The most I've ever given a provider for one experience (an overnight counts as one experience) is $1,200. She's an Instagram fitness model and drove over three hours each way to me, and spent the night.

Was it worth it? Yes. Would I do it again? Yes. With her? No. Why? Because I only care about "next. ".

Next can be an $80/ ss STG motel-squatter, or an escort-model I pay to come up here from NYC.

A high is a high. A hit is a hit. Next is next.

The key to enjoying the hobby, and almost never being disappointed is:

1) low expectations.

2) desiring variety.

3) researched and mitigated-risk providers.

I go for young (18-25) and attractive (fit / petite / pretty). If a provider is reasonably close to those metrics, and she's new to me, then: 1) if my cock interacts with her 2) and my DNA is relinquished, I'm happy. Simple as that. Those are the only expectations.

I heavily screen and take much precaution before I meet anyone. There's always some risk, but I minimize it by following my rules.

So the cost of the provider has nothing to do with my satisfaction. Forget about the money, and just have fun.

And in terms of being an addict: we're all addicted. We all have problems. We're all broken. I have no advice to the addicts on how to quit. Only on how to be a better addict.

Wise words are wise. Pretty much spot on. Admitted my addiction a long time ago. Fuck, even did the therapy route. Needless to say, which won out on my end. LOL.

[Hobby1750]

Based on my personal experiences, there's practically nil correlation to money (cost) and experienced satisfaction within the hobby. (The qualifier is street trash. If they were free I'd still never mess with them.).

I pay for looks. The most I've ever given a provider for one experience (an overnight counts as one experience) is $1,200. She's an Instagram fitness model and drove over three hours each way to me, and spent the night.

Was it worth it? Yes. Would I do it again? Yes. With her? No. Why? Because I only care about "next. ".

Next can be an $80/ ss STG motel-squatter, or an escort-model I pay to come up here from NYC.

A high is a high. A hit is a hit. Next is next.

The key to enjoying the hobby, and almost never being disappointed is:

1) low expectations.

2) desiring variety.

3) researched and mitigated-risk providers.

I go for young (18-25) and attractive (fit / petite / pretty). If a provider is reasonably close to those metrics, and she's new to me, then: 1) if my cock interacts with her 2) and my DNA is relinquished, I'm happy. Simple as that. Those are the only expectations.

I heavily screen and take much precaution before I meet anyone. There's always some risk, but I minimize it by following my rules.

So the cost of the provider has nothing to do with my satisfaction. Forget about the money, and just have fun.

And in terms of being an addict: we're all addicted. We all have problems. We're all broken. I have no advice to the addicts on how to quit. Only on how to be a better addict.

[Loki Pk]

Maybe what gets missed or misunderstood is that a higher $$$ does not 'automatically translate into a fine dining meal.

Some chicks think they are fillet and perform like chopped liver.

I would guess most of the referred to, better experiences or more costly ones, were not local to Albany. But maybe NYC Vegas or LA / Hollywood? Or Great providers from those areas?
Most travelers to Albany seem to think they deserve or 'can command' that coin. Then break out a rubber for a blow-job. She may look above average but perform like a sad 100$ bp cellar dweller.

Fuck that. I've had so many fucking blowies by so many babes I couldn't possibly count, and NEVER has the best CBJ competed with a well done BBJ. Let alone a phenomenal BBBJ. That's not to say I have not had really great CBJs...
just that a bare blow down the throat is far superior.

And to shell out a car payment for an hour, well.... GFE or bust babe !
Let's just leave it at that.


Peace.

PK.

[Raige614]

I get all you are saying. And I was just presenting a perspective that differed a bit from other comments. Not a right or wrong thing.

Not to add to your fears but there are plenty of mongers who were obsessed with just getting the rocks off and lost it all based upon that. They weren't seeking the experience I was describing. Spending ungodly amounts of money on street meat, thinking every civilian they meet is a possible hooker, and becoming divorced from reality. Can do that with high-end hookers or with gutter chicks if you got the propensity for obsessive behavior. I want to be clear I am not saying that you, personally, have that tendency. I am just making general comments.

I've been around long enough to have personally witnessed with my own eyes both aspects of this. I've seen those who actually believe in the existence and concept.

Of a "high end hooker" (hilarious oxymoron) obsessed with escape and fantasy and will forsake home, family, partner / spouse, job, friends and everything else.

For a woman selling her ass.

And I've seen those obsessed with sex just for the sake of having sex as if it were the only thing that matters to them and will screw anything that moves, princess or pig, clean or dirty.

Both are obsessed. Neither have their priorities in order, IMHO. Both always wind up bitter, angry, disappointed and resentful when their whole world falls apart and comes crashing down around them.

They don't so much lose everything they once held dear- It's more like they give it away. Both take sex too seriously. And spend too much for it.

I don't want to be "that guy". I won't allow myself to lose my self respect that way. Cheap or expensive, I will NOT allow hooks to become my priority in life.

It is my opinion that a prostitute doesn't exactly qualify as one of the "finer things in life" just because she's expensive. It's not caviar, filet mignon or even prime rib.

It's a prostitute. A hooker. One whose favors many others have partaken before me and will after me. And I guarantee that the "V" is not gold plated.

[Matt574]

I see your point. I failed to mention, though, why I can't let these frills matter so much to me. I fear allowing this game to become an obsession with me. Getting so "caught up in it" that it becomes much more than a hobby or a game. Some mongers have lost all to this hobby. I believe that is where the downward spiral would begin with me. Keep in mind I'm talking only about myself here.

My fear is becoming so consumed with the game where I can think of little else all day every day except the next "experience".

Next thing I know, I'm meeting with hooks a lot more frequently than my time or budget allows-once or twice a month to damn near every day. I'd begin diverting household funds from the family, home, monthly expenses, etc. Paying excessive amounts of money for what amounts to no more than frills and fluff, and finding a thousand ways to justify how important it is to myself. Then giving away money-without a second thought- to a provider any time she calls with a sob story claiming to need "a little extra" for hair, makeup, rent, etc. Now I'm less focused and productive on the job because its suddenly become less important than my hooker life. IRL lines are now blurred, boundaries violated, personal rules broken, common sense and caution tossed to the side. Family, friends, job, now viewed as a burden.

Next I'm missing or neglecting time with family and friends because I thought spending time with a hooker was more important. I'd start putting them on a pedestal, staunchly defending and white knighting whenever someone should speak poorly of them. If its someone I see regularly and exclusively, at this point my feelings may be far beyond a simple business arrangement. But-stubborn bastard that I am, I'd never admit that. Instead, I'd point to all the things I consider lacking IRL and consider it my trade-off. "Only fair".

At this point it has become entirely too important to me. Less like a hobby or a game and more like life and death. In my view, this thing is supposed to be a fun and enjoyable pastime. When I begin obsessing over it and its no longer fun, I no longer want any part of it. I enjoy participating-I just don't want it to take it so seriously and have it matter more then things that should be more important to me. Because then I would certainly lose all those more important things. And I wouldn't have anyone to blame but myself. I prefer to stay focused on reality, so that I don't lose myself in the hobby and lose all I have (the things that really matter) in the process.

I get all you are saying. And I was just presenting a perspective that differed a bit from other comments. Not a right or wrong thing.

Not to add to your fears but there are plenty of mongers who were obsessed with just getting the rocks off and lost it all based upon that. They weren't seeking the experience I was describing. Spending ungodly amounts of money on street meat, thinking every civilian they meet is a possible hooker, and becoming divorced from reality. Can do that with high-end hookers or with gutter chicks if you got the propensity for obsessive behavior. I want to be clear I am not saying that you, personally, have that tendency. I am just making general comments.

[Raige614]

I have actually found that as a general rule there is a direct correlation between price and experience at least when one starts getting into the 400+ range. Higher prices tends to bring far better looks (that is important to me), cleaner, comfortable environments, extra efforts to make one feel very relaxed and comfortable, often the paraphernalia that can add something extra to the experience, and other "bells and whistles" that make it a "full experience" that one remembers. I still remember many such experiences (when I dropped far more than $400) twenty years later because they were fantastic times with stunningly beautiful women during which everything that could go on. Did go on.

Significantly different from the under-$200 providers. Sure, some of them were fun but none of them had the natural assets, could not provide the circumstances, nor had the innate ability to create the entire fantasy which leads to a total mind / body blowing experience. The high-price ones knew a lot of cash was being dropped and they knew it was more than just their bodies so they knew how to do it right..

I see your point. I failed to mention, though, why I can't let these frills matter so much to me. I fear allowing this game to become an obsession with me. Getting so "caught up in it" that it becomes much more than a hobby or a game. Some mongers have lost all to this hobby. I believe that is where the downward spiral would begin with me. Keep in mind I'm talking only about myself here.

My fear is becoming so consumed with the game where I can think of little else all day every day except the next "experience".

Next thing I know, I'm meeting with hooks a lot more frequently than my time or budget allows-once or twice a month to damn near every day. I'd begin diverting household funds from the family, home, monthly expenses, etc. Paying excessive amounts of money for what amounts to no more than frills and fluff, and finding a thousand ways to justify how important it is to myself. Then giving away money-without a second thought- to a provider any time she calls with a sob story claiming to need "a little extra" for hair, makeup, rent, etc. Now I'm less focused and productive on the job because its suddenly become less important than my hooker life. IRL lines are now blurred, boundaries violated, personal rules broken, common sense and caution tossed to the side. Family, friends, job, now viewed as a burden.

Next I'm missing or neglecting time with family and friends because I thought spending time with a hooker was more important. I'd start putting them on a pedestal, staunchly defending and white knighting whenever someone should speak poorly of them. If its someone I see regularly and exclusively, at this point my feelings may be far beyond a simple business arrangement. But-stubborn bastard that I am, I'd never admit that. Instead, I'd point to all the things I consider lacking IRL and consider it my trade-off. "Only fair".

At this point it has become entirely too important to me. Less like a hobby or a game and more like life and death. In my view, this thing is supposed to be a fun and enjoyable pastime. When I begin obsessing over it and its no longer fun, I no longer want any part of it. I enjoy participating-I just don't want it to take it so seriously and have it matter more then things that should be more important to me. Because then I would certainly lose all those more important things. And I wouldn't have anyone to blame but myself. I prefer to stay focused on reality, so that I don't lose myself in the hobby and lose all I have (the things that really matter) in the process.

[Matt574]

I agree with both of these guys, 100%.

Just because the fee is higher, it does not translate into a 'better' experience.

Peace.

PK.

I have actually found that as a general rule there is a direct correlation between price and experience at least when one starts getting into the 400+ range. Higher prices tends to bring far better looks (that is important to me), cleaner, comfortable environments, extra efforts to make one feel very relaxed and comfortable, often the paraphernalia that can add something extra to the experience, and other "bells and whistles" that make it a "full experience" that one remembers. I still remember many such experiences (when I dropped far more than $400) twenty years later because they were fantastic times with stunningly beautiful women during which everything that could go on. Did go on.

Significantly different from the under-$200 providers. Sure, some of them were fun but none of them had the natural assets, could not provide the circumstances, nor had the innate ability to create the entire fantasy which leads to a total mind / body blowing experience. The high-price ones knew a lot of cash was being dropped and they knew it was more than just their bodies so they knew how to do it right.

Of course, if you just need to bust a nut and move on, then yes, a cheaper alternative is the way to go. That's just basically jerking it but with a warm body. Better than a stick of butter. If I had my choice, I always prefer the "experience" over simply getting my pipes cleaned. Unfortunately it is more costly and frankly, in Upstate NY, there has not been a single regular provider I have met who claim close to the being high-class and worth more than $200 at the most.

Of course I am using generalizations. Sure, there are high-end hookers who are boring as fuck and yes, there are low-end providers who know how to rock. But they have been the exceptions that prove the rule in my experience.

[Raige614]

I agree with both of these guys, 100%.

Just because the fee is higher, it does not translate into a 'better' experience.

Peace.

PK.

Actually, my whole attitude on the matter is more in line with NewEnglandKid post #221. I personally have not and would not go higher than 2. I'd be happy to include a small tip with it if the date is successful. Elix765 also made points in his post #219 which are more in line with my way of thinking. I can do without all the bells and whistles. I don't care for marketing ploys or advertising gimmicks.

I don't need the whole "experience" or the "fantasy" a provider offers at a higher rate. I'm a guy who is fine with the basics. Chicken can taste just as good without gravy, cake just as good without icing.

Not even about cost. About need. What do I need? The nut. Cleaning of the pipes. Period. Not emotional stimulation or "escape". I like to keep things simple. At my age, the costly added fluff is meaningless. So-is it worth it? To pay $300.00? $400? To some, perhaps it is. Not for me. But I speak only for myself. As different people, we all have different needs, wants, desires, expectations.

At the end of the day a basic rule always applies: To each his own. So I'll judge not those with different views.

[Loki Pk]

My experience has been that sex skills and rate are not strongly related. The higher rate providers usually are offering more in terms of things that have to do with social class. Graduate degrees, artsy and smartsy talk, really nice incalls, perfect orthodontic teeth, the kind of body you only get from daily workouts, expensive clothes, nails, hair, perfume, and so forth.

I like many upscale providers really well individually; but the main draws for me are rapport, warmth, enthusiasm, and responsiveness, which I have found to be just as common among $200 as among $400 providers.

One other thing, though: I also really really really prefer professional providers. Women who do a good job running their business somehow seem more trustworthy to me. I feel if they know the importance of good business practices, they also probably take care of other important things like health, discretion, hygiene, and appropriate boundaries. If someone has been able to maintain a $400+/ hr career with website, photo shoots, well done instagram, etc. , over several years, that's an encouraging sign that makes me feel safer. But there are many women who provide at the lower rate who are just as professional. Ironically, they sometimes actually clear more profit, since they're working with much lower overhead.

Several years ago I wanted to try something "special" thinking that spending big would bring on a porn star experience. A really hot blond from Texas was in town staying at the turf on Wolf Rd which is much nicer then most of the spots the girls stay in and charging $300 for an hour. She was definitely a nine out of ten on the looks scale, but really wasn't that great and only allowed one pop in the session. Carrie Starlett for those who know her only charged half that and was IMHO a much better time. I'd have to hit the lottery before I go over $165 again which is what FS costs me at an AMP.

I agree with both of these guys, 100%.

Just because the fee is higher, it does not translate into a 'better' experience.

Peace.

PK.