Arrangement Reports

**StanKost** · 05-22-20 04:30

Originally Posted by MrStashMan [View Original Post]

Here's her profile. If you can't see it she probably blocked you. I favorited her a couple weeks ago but haven't pursued anything yet. Let us know if go through with it.

https://www.seeking.com/member/6dff6...8-13d9c2995419

Thank you she is the girl and I can see her profile from your link. May be I couldn't find her cause after she quoted me 1 K I deleted the message to avoid SA finding we are talking about numbers and when I searched her by name I spelled her with one I and the end at she has 3 I at the end. I don't know what to make of her, she was asking me when was the last time I had a gf and when I asked her do you mean SB and she is like what is SB? I will stay low and if she contacts me and we agree on a fair deal I may pull the trigger and report back unless some else had already done that and has a feed back.

**MrStashMan** · 05-22-20 04:10

Originally Posted by StanKost [View Original Post]

I can't find her profile but her user name is or was Miamulani. She is early 20's and the pics areTGTB but wonder if anyone had seen her?

We texted 2 wk ago and she quoted me 1 G and I told her my zone is 300. The next day she asked me why I don't want to pay her 1 G 😂.

She went silent and last week texted me asking about my name and selfie cause she deleted the convos and she started texting me once or twice a day how is my day going and how is work so I thought she is a time waster. Today she asked me about my allowance and I said 200 - 300 ppm and she wanted to meet and greet first. Then out if the blue she says her previous dudes paid her 600 ppm and she can use the hotel room and room service after I leave and the room is under my name 🤔 I told her absolutely no because she can trash the room, have a party, drugs, use it as an escort and I don't want problems with the hotel or the cops. She texts back that trust is essential and I said trust have to be earned over a few dates. I though she will get pissy but she asked me if I can meet tonight or during the weekend. I told her that we have to clarify the price, the duration and the menu before we proceed but the hotel thing threw me off and will likely pass on her.

Here's her profile. If you can't see it she probably blocked you. I favorited her a couple weeks ago but haven't pursued anything yet. Let us know if go through with it.

https://www.seeking.com/member/6dff6...8-13d9c2995419

**StanKost** · 05-22-20 01:55

I can't find her profile but her user name is or was Miamulani. She is early 20's and the pics areTGTB but wonder if anyone had seen her?

We texted 2 wk ago and she quoted me 1 G and I told her my zone is 300. The next day she asked me why I don't want to pay her 1 G 😂.

She went silent and last week texted me asking about my name and selfie cause she deleted the convos and she started texting me once or twice a day how is my day going and how is work so I thought she is a time waster. Today she asked me about my allowance and I said 200 - 300 ppm and she wanted to meet and greet first. Then out if the blue she says her previous dudes paid her 600 ppm and she can use the hotel room and room service after I leave and the room is under my name 🤔 I told her absolutely no because she can trash the room, have a party, drugs, use it as an escort and I don't want problems with the hotel or the cops. She texts back that trust is essential and I said trust have to be earned over a few dates. I though she will get pissy but she asked me if I can meet tonight or during the weekend. I told her that we have to clarify the price, the duration and the menu before we proceed but the hotel thing threw me off and will likely pass on her.

**TheArgent** · 05-21-20 22:57

Originally Posted by FightingFungus [View Original Post]

I am off a different mindset, of course the pros are doing this full time and many on SA are not that being said at the END OF THE DAY THESE GIRLS ARE FUCKING US FOR MONEY. I don't think they are as innocent as many of us give them credit for. To any guy including me were the girls tell them that is the best sex of their life and how hard you made them cum, ask them if you could see them for free for a booty call. If they say NO or ignore you I would assume they are bullshitting.

Sure. Some of them are definitely JUST fucking me for my money. And for some of them the money is a perk. But I've had multiple girls stay the night when I was sort of trying to get them to leave. I've had multiple girls turn down money or try to turn down money, which I gently encouraged them to take. I've had girls try to take me to meet their friends out of state over the weekend (I made an excuse why I couldn't go) And I've had girls tell me they just wanted someone with money in their corner, but didn't need a gift every time. I've had girls suggest they'd be interested in vanilla and another that wanted to hang out when I was babysitting by nephew. For all those girls, the money is putting me to the front of the line over other guys she might see. Or it turns me from a 7 to a 9. Whatever. I don't care. I just like it.

Now, more than once I've had a girl just want to meet me at my hotel when I'm visiting San Diego or Toronto or something and I agreed to it. Every time, four or five times, it's been my worst sugar experiences. It felt like seeing an escort and each time I vowed to not meet someone again who didn't make me chase them a little first.

Maybe another way to say it--I don't care if she's fucking *me* for my money. But I'm less interested in girls who will fuck whomever opens the hotel room door for money.

**FightingFungus** · 05-21-20 17:42

Originally Posted by Theargent [View Original Post]

I'm on and off SA because I don't find being with most pros to be a fun. Nine out of 10 times a pro is like good masturbation for me. And even when it's good, it feels a bit unsatisfying and I enjoy it less, because I know the pro is just punching a clock. Conversely, I've had SBs who I literally can not wait to see again. I've had multiple SBs tell me that our arrangement was the best sex of their life--not hard to believe if I remember how I good I was at sex as a college sophomore. Some of these girls will remember me in 60 years. I like that. And even hot pros almost all tend to look stripper-hot to me. The average SB for me is more attractive than 90% of the pros I've seen, more like a college soccer player or high school cheerleader.

Even ignoring all that, just the sugar situation is hotter for me. I usually see inexperienced SBs and them being nervous and later feeling dirty and wild and secret, it's sort of a kink.

I am off a different mindset, of course the pros are doing this full time and many on SA are not that being said at the END OF THE DAY THESE GIRLS ARE FUCKING US FOR MONEY. I don't think they are as innocent as many of us give them credit for. To any guy including me were the girls tell them that is the best sex of their life and how hard you made them cum, ask them if you could see them for free for a booty call. If they say NO or ignore you I would assume they are bullshitting.

**GoldenGreek** · 05-21-20 17:19

Originally Posted by MaharajaSP [View Original Post]

GoldenGreek, Pau and others appreciate the feedback. I have been trying to exercise better patience and driving the price down. The three SB I am working on right now again started at 500, and two are down to 400. So lets see. I am also curious about hosting SB. I can host always but am sort of worried of a crazy outcome with someone (who may get start screaming, get violent etc). I am really not a fan of the places these SBs are hosting at. Hygiene concerns and most of the time the location is awful. So am curious on people's opinions and cautionary measures you taken. Thanks.

Get a hotel room first. It they seem normal and are not drug users or psycho you can invite them on any future dates.

**TimeForPlay10** · 05-21-20 17:08

Originally Posted by MaharajaSP [View Original Post]

GoldenGreek, Pau and others appreciate the feedback. I have been trying to exercise better patience and driving the price down. The three SB I am working on right now again started at 500, and two are down to 400. So lets see. I am also curious about hosting SB. I can host always but am sort of worried of a crazy outcome with someone (who may get start screaming, get violent etc). I am really not a fan of the places these SBs are hosting at. Hygiene concerns and most of the time the location is awful. So am curious on people's opinions and cautionary measures you taken. Thanks.

I've never met anyone who can host at their place for a first date. I'm just too paranoid and know I would not have a good time if I did it. That's just me. I'm willing to spend the extra for a hotel for the first time and make sure everything is good. If she's a keeper and can host going forward, I'll go that route.

**MaharajaSP** · 05-21-20 12:04

Originally Posted by GoldenGreek [View Original Post]

Not true at all on my end.

I've had 10* experiences with girls I paid 250-300.

Bodies were 9++ and face 7 or 8.

Try to negotiate at least.

The Last three girls you reported on you paid 500.

Two of the threw I talked to I got down to 350 with little effort.

GoldenGreek, Pau and others appreciate the feedback. I have been trying to exercise better patience and driving the price down. The three SB I am working on right now again started at 500, and two are down to 400. So lets see. I am also curious about hosting SB. I can host always but am sort of worried of a crazy outcome with someone (who may get start screaming, get violent etc). I am really not a fan of the places these SBs are hosting at. Hygiene concerns and most of the time the location is awful. So am curious on people's opinions and cautionary measures you taken. Thanks.

**TheArgent** · 05-21-20 11:28

Originally Posted by MnCuckold [View Original Post]

I note that people point out pros, who definitely frequent SA. What I'm less clear on is why anyone really cares whether they are also on Eros or Tryst. It seems a distinction without much of a difference to me. If you're paying your agreed to PPM rate to them, whether you contacted them via SA or Eros, it's the same essential thing.

I'm on and off SA because I don't find being with most pros to be a fun. Nine out of 10 times a pro is like good masturbation for me. And even when it's good, it feels a bit unsatisfying and I enjoy it less, because I know the pro is just punching a clock. Conversely, I've had SBs who I literally can not wait to see again. I've had multiple SBs tell me that our arrangement was the best sex of their life--not hard to believe if I remember how I good I was at sex as a college sophomore. Some of these girls will remember me in 60 years. I like that. And even hot pros almost all tend to look stripper-hot to me. The average SB for me is more attractive than 90% of the pros I've seen, more like a college soccer player or high school cheerleader.

Even ignoring all that, just the sugar situation is hotter for me. I usually see inexperienced SBs and them being nervous and later feeling dirty and wild and secret, it's sort of a kink.

**Rounded25** · 05-21-20 11:00

https://www.seeking.com/member/d302d...1-76b3370f3f06

Agreed on 200 and can host. Then needed $65 dollars to pay sister before hosting. Would not uber. Would not get picked up. Not comfortable with hotel. Did not respond once I told her I do not pay before meeting.

kjikli29 - Similar story with pay before meet. Also caught her jumping locations from Plainfield to FL the next day.

**TimeForPlay10** · 05-21-20 10:41

Originally Posted by GoldenGreek [View Original Post]

Not true at all on my end.

I've had 10* experiences with girls I paid 250-300.

Bodies were 9++ and face 7 or 8.

Try to negotiate at least.

The Last three girls you reported on you paid 500.

Two of the threw I talked to I got down to 350 with little effort.

I agree with GoldenGreek. If you're fairly new to SA, you need to understand that this is different world than dealing with pros. Coming from the escort world, 500 for 2-3 hours with an SB seems like a great deal. An average pro will cost you 600 for 2 hours (if you're lucky) but likely more (750+). So, you think 500 is awesome for 2-3 hours. The difference with SA is that these girls expect a negotiation. Most start out high and come down considerably. It's not uncommon to have someone ask for 500+ and agree to 200-300. I had an SB once ask for 1000 (after we were BCD and already fucked, LOL) and we wound up agreeing to 350. And she stayed overnight every date! We met consistently for the next month or so. By the way, she was really sweet, shy and pretty. She told me she had a previous arrangement where the dude paid her 1000 and I tend to believe her after getting to know her. She wasn't a player like many on SA are. Unfortunately, guys pay those higher amounts either because money is no issue or they think they're getting a better deal than with a pro. The point here is that most girls on SA will negotiate down considerably if you approach things the right way. Think about it this way, for many of them, this is not their "job". It's a way to supplement whatever income they have, payoff debts, afford nice things, and get some attention from an experienced older man, etc. 300 for a few hours is by far more than what they get at most any part time or lower paying full time jobs they might have. The GPS ones are pro's or semi-pro's and typically don't negotiate much, if at all. There may be value in seeing those girls from time to time but they are more transactional by definition. I prefer a closer connection and longer time than what you get with a pro. Like others have indicated, some of my best experiences on SA were with girls in the 250-350 range where there was real chemistry. The more guys pay the higher amounts 400+, the more these girls will start expecting it. Negotiate and don't feel like you have to agree to something you still think is high (especially during these times). You would be surprised at how many will go a couple days, week or longer and come back and accept your offer. The downside to all of the above is that you don't really know what you're getting going in. This is where it's important to discuss things with the SB upfront, do a M&G or Facetime / video chat before the meeting, etc. It's a lot of work, but the payoff when you find a solid SB is more than worth it.

**LoveSmallPerky** · 05-21-20 10:27

Originally Posted by MnCuckold [View Original Post]

I note that people point out pros, who definitely frequent SA. What I'm less clear on is why anyone really cares whether they are also on Eros or Tryst. It seems a distinction without much of a difference to me. If you're paying your agreed to PPM rate to them, whether you contacted them via SA or Eros, it's the same essential thing.

It is about the person and how much activity she gets. The SB is like a girl next door / nonpro catch versus the local cum dump everyone has had. Less mileage and more of an innocent type. Yes some of the SB's get around quite a bit but you can weed them out.

**MnCuckold** · 05-21-20 10:17

Originally Posted by Jafeldm [View Original Post]

The crown tattoo was a red flag.

I note that people point out pros, who definitely frequent SA. What I'm less clear on is why anyone really cares whether they are also on Eros or Tryst. It seems a distinction without much of a difference to me. If you're paying your agreed to PPM rate to them, whether you contacted them via SA or Eros, it's the same essential thing.

**Hockey Guy** · 05-21-20 01:28

Originally Posted by Lookin4it [View Original Post]

My subscription on SA ended and I am taking a break from there for a while. I was wondering about trying Adult Friend Finder. I was a member on there about 15 years ago and it was OK. I was wondering if anyone here has had any good / bad experiences on there and whether it is worth it, especially for someone who isn't in his 40's anymore.

I have to agree with what TimeForPlay10 had to say. I was on AFF a long time ago and 95% of the profiles are fake. I did meet a few nice women and had some good times, but they were few and far between for the money spent. Back then there was a group that had some parties which were kind of interesting at times.