Rants, Raves and Opinions AKA "The Octagon"

[MojoGuy]

So my wife yesterday told me that my name was not on the list of Ashley Madison clients when the hacker put them on the internet. HMMM. Probably why I never use my real name, use a burner phone, etc. The hobby is a place where you always need to use the big head before you can use the little head. Be safe.

Did you ask her why she was looking for your name on the list?

[Animal14]

So my wife yesterday told me that my name was not on the list of Ashley Madison clients when the hacker put them on the internet. HMMM. Probably why I never use my real name, use a burner phone, etc. The hobby is a place where you always need to use the big head before you can use the little head. Be safe.

I was on that site a number of years back but used other email address. Where does one look to find the list of names or addresses? I thought this was still on the "hidden internet", which those of us not very tech savvy have no idea how to access. Do you have any idea?

[Davem7643]

So my wife yesterday told me that my name was not on the list of Ashley Madison clients when the hacker put them on the internet. HMMM. Probably why I never use my real name, use a burner phone, etc. The hobby is a place where you always need to use the big head before you can use the little head. Be safe.

[Nky777]

I think what I was trying to say was taken out of context and I didn't mean to offend anyone if that was the case. It wasn't directed towards anyone and I apologize. Not a dick and didn't mean to come off as one. I'm not stuck on myself but maybe a little cheap at times and like to find the best special possible. LOL walmart price matches competitors ads.

NOT A DICK BTW.

[Grizzler]

Thank you all for your replies.

I liked this one. Right on point.

Thank you.

I meant that being if you were a cop, calling yourself deepblue would be stupid. But then, being a cop who wastes his / her life chasing down adults who do this thing, you would probably be one of the DUMB cops.

I think it's far more likely you just like shitty music from the 90's.

[Whathesaid]

You might not be, but now you are definitely the only one that a lot of the upscale, and reputable providers will NOT see. If you pay what you pay, yes see a SW. It's an experience, not just to come in and bust your nut and leave. I actually will NOT see the serial hobbyist that wants a notch on his hobby belt. The way you talk and downgrade a female says a lot about you, regardless of whether or not you are GQ material. I don't feel I am entitled at all. I have busted my ass for 3 years, and I take damn good care of my clients with wearing lingerie, hair and makeup done, incall is clean and very upscale, refreshments, everything they need even if they want to take a shower, and a hot towel warmer. THAT is what a good provider does, NOT someone is is entitled.

You are every reason why the nice guys get a bad name. If you keep that mentality, you will not get far in this hobby.

Plus one: smiling:

[Hooter12]

I mentioned this in another post but I will talk about it again.

When I talk with a provider to setup something, I always ask about the menu in detail. I have some deal breakers like no dfk, no cim, no deal at all.

Some of the girls are being extremely cautious and refuse to talk about these details on the phone. They think I am a cop to hunt them down on the phone. Somehow, they believe providing this info on the phone will get them arrested.

Some of them tells me that they will not provide this information on the phone. That's fine, I just move on.

Some of them breaks the communication at that point. That is rude.

Some of them are just plain crazy. A couple of them asked me to send them a picture of my tool with my face in it, just to prove that I am not a cop. Ohh really?

I don't know the right word for this (weird, funny, annoying, absurd or whatever) but the most common response is "We will talk when you are here". I will not be there if I can't get answers to my questions honey. Why would I drive all the way to you, just to get my answers and then decide to stay or not stay after talking with you?!

Anyway, by now I got used to this and nothing much surprises me in this subject anymore. I just move on and don't think about it too much. Like I said, I believe some of these girls are extremely cautious but some of them are just plain idiots.

Now this happened to me very recently.

I PMed a senior member about a contact infomation which he possibly might have and I got this reply. Not the same exact words but something in this line.

"Mr. Deepblue with 5 posts, I will not share it with you OFFICER".

Sometimes I am wondering how these people with this much stupidity can manage to survive life? Sometimes I am thinking, this much "stupidity" should be a crime and these people should be locked up.

Then I remember the infamous saying "Ignorance is bliss".

Maybe they are having a happier life than I am just because they are plain stupid.

I am NOT here to offend anybody, just saying.

Well I hate to break this to you buy yes, even acronyms like CIM can get the provider arrested after price has been agreed. In Ohio courts its accepted that common acronyms used in specific forums via electronic communications can be considered common known terms for accepted acts. In other words, if you contact someone via a automobile support forum then CIM can mean something involving cars. However if you contact an escort via BP, etc, and then ask about CIM, its accepted that you are talking about a sexual act. In Ohio for a provider to be charged with solicitation, they have to bring up money, which they all do quoting rates, and then stating a specific sex act for that rate. Now if this done via text, LE when arriving to see the provider has to verify with the provider themselves the details of the text or at least confirm they are aware of what the officer is wanting for the rate. Then they can be charged with solicitation. The girls are trying be safe. I agree some of the requests are unreasonable. Yes I would never send a picture of my junk to a provider. That itself can be illegal but the girls know LE would never do that, and they wouldn't. Some providers definitely go to far but its a risky give and take for them. They want the business and they want you to know what you will get but they also don't want to get arrested. I too try to get details from them before I see them because I don't want to ripped into them saying they never said they would do this or that. But if a provider just won't budge and wants to see pictures and won't say a thing without them or something else I'm uncomfortable with, I tell them I understand and move on. If its somebody you just have to see for some reason, show up and try to hash it out in person. That is if you are comfortable they are not LE.

[Hooter12]

Am I the only one that thinks tbe majority if not all the providers are charging to much fucking money?

Theres no way a bng should ever be $60 or even $40 that shit is ridiculous. And when I see a provider for cfs I don't have the time to spend with them. So I seek a qv. I want to get in get off snd get out chances are fifteen minutes and I'm out the door. I don't need to be cuddled or sweet talked so why the hell would I pay $60 $80 or $100 or more. I'm not a bad looking fella and ill be damned if I'm going to pay these broads more by the half hour than I make myself in a whole hour. The sad thing is fellow mongers pay these outrageous prices and these girls feel like there entitled because of it. I understand that some girls are better looking than others but in the end its the same fucking result. I'm going to drop my load and be out.

Charging too much money by whose opinion. The provider sets the price. If the provider doesn't get the business they hope for by their asking price then they can decide if they are asking too much. Its up to them not you. Your option is to not see them. Not to demand they lower their price. Do you really think a provider, who is trying to make money, gives a damn what you look like. Their price is what it is. If they are comfortable in what they make for the amount they need then their price is just right. If they need more they can lower their price. If you don't like their price, its certainly your option to not do business with them. Yes we see providers all the time that seem to charge more or equivalent to other providers that we consider better service, looks, etc. And we say compared to the others she is charging too much. But if she is keeping that price, and getting sufficient business to where she is satisfied, then she is not charging too much. She is getting what she needs.

[DeepBlue798]

Thank you all for your replies.

I don't want to take your (or my) valuable time too much, so I will do this. Here are my responses below. Just pick whichever you feel suits to you. Feel free to pick more than one if you want to. I have thrown in some extras. Therefore, not every item has an address. Don't be confused.

Please just remember, "Life is short, but sweet for certain".

Not in any particular order. Please have fun.

1- Thank you.

2- Yes, your right.

3- No, your wrong.

4- Yes, I agree.

5- No, I disagree.

6- Let's agree to disagree.

7- No, I did not call you stupid.

8- No, thank you but I wasn't asking help in that post. Nor, I was complaining about not getting help. You missed the whole point.

9- No, I did not get offended. Why would I?

10- Don't worry about my lay count. I am doing pretty fine. Though, I am always looking for "prettier" and "finer" LOL.

11- Can you really read? I mean; can you really comprehend what you are reading?

12- You don't know what you are talking about but that's okay. I don't have the time nor the energy to explain it you. Your hopeless anyway.

13- I am sorry that you felt like you have been disrespected. It was never my intention. I don't understand why you would feel like that but nevertheless, I am very sorry.

14- No, I am not real. I am an officer to hunt you all down. LOL.

15- I appreciate you all for taking the time to respond. I really do.

Seems like if you were willing to compromise your honor in this way. You might also be an idiot.

I liked this one. Right on point.

Thank you.

[D Nut]

Am I the only one that thinks tbe majority if not all the providers are charging to much fucking money?

Theres no way a bng should ever be $60 or even $40 that shit is ridiculous. And when I see a provider for cfs I don't have the time to spend with them. So I seek a qv. I want to get in get off snd get out chances are fifteen minutes and I'm out the door. I don't need to be cuddled or sweet talked so why the hell would I pay $60 $80 or $100 or more. I'm not a bad looking fella and ill be damned if I'm going to pay these broads more by the half hour than I make myself in a whole hour. The sad thing is fellow mongers pay these outrageous prices and these girls feel like there entitled because of it. I understand that some girls are better looking than others but in the end its the same fucking result. I'm going to drop my load and be out.

I think you're looking for a street or back alley experience, not an escort experience. There is a market (and a forum thread) just for that sort of service and rates. Check the Streetwalker Reports thread, and you'll probably find a better fit for your tastes.

[First Half]

Am I the only one that thinks tbe majority if not all the providers are charging to much fucking money?

Theres no way a bng should ever be $60 or even $40 that shit is ridiculous. And when I see a provider for cfs I don't have the time to spend with them. So I seek a qv. I want to get in get off snd get out chances are fifteen minutes and I'm out the door. I don't need to be cuddled or sweet talked so why the hell would I pay $60 $80 or $100 or more. I'm not a bad looking fella and ill be damned if I'm going to pay these broads more by the half hour than I make myself in a whole hour. The sad thing is fellow mongers pay these outrageous prices and these girls feel like there entitled because of it. I understand that some girls are better looking than others but in the end its the same fucking result. I'm going to drop my load and be out.

That pays premium rates for all those services you don't like. I'm glad I'm ruining it for you, because you appear to be a dick.

[Fdx17]

You are new so have some things to learn. Your name can be interpreted by some as being a cop. When you call up a provider, they do not know who you are so are being extra careful. Are you experienced with references, a newbie or a cop? Never ask in detail what they offer. They are being careful so don't want to tell the wrong person details of what they do. Once you have seen some providers and they can give you a reference, the ladies will talk more. Same in regards to asking too specific a question to other Bd members. Read the BDs, gather knowledge, post, and once you have more posting and senior status, you will find many members who are helpful. Just some things to think about.

KC.

It takes time to develop trust. Read the posts. Once you have visited and reported on some providers there is lots of help around here. Include some details you would not know if you had not been there. This will make seasoned veterans more comfortable if they realize the only way you would know this is to have been there. I have seen more than one bogus post knocked out. It is almost comical when you read of someones visit yesterday and 3 veterans come back with she has been on vacation for 2 weeks now.

Once you have a history your reports will not need to include as much detail because the participants will come to trust you.

KC is actually the first on here to give me assistance. His reply did not go into much detail, he simply stated " you will have fun" and boy did I ever. Listen to him. No one starts at the top. If you follow a few rules it may help keep you out of trouble.

Now go have fun.

Fdx.

[Swami222]

I mentioned this in another post but I will talk about it again.

When I talk with a provider to setup something, I always ask about the menu in detail. I have some deal breakers like no dfk, no cim, no deal at all.

Some of the girls are being extremely cautious and refuse to talk about these details on the phone. They think I am a cop to hunt them down on the phone. Somehow, they believe providing this info on the phone will get them arrested.

Some of them tells me that they will not provide this information on the phone. That's fine, I just move on.

Some of them breaks the communication at that point. That is rude.

Some of them are just plain crazy. A couple of them asked me to send them a picture of my tool with my face in it, just to prove that I am not a cop. Ohh really?

I don't know the right word for this (weird, funny, annoying, absurd or whatever) but the most common response is "We will talk when you are here". I will not be there if I can't get answers to my questions honey. Why would I drive all the way to you, just to get my answers and then decide to stay or not stay after talking with you?!

Anyway, by now I got used to this and nothing much surprises me in this subject anymore. I just move on and don't think about it too much. Like I said, I believe some of these girls are extremely cautious but some of them are just plain idiots.

Now this happened to me very recently.

I PMed a senior member about a contact infomation which he possibly might have and I got this reply. Not the same exact words but something in this line.

"Mr. Deepblue with 5 posts, I will not share it with you OFFICER".

Sometimes I am wondering how these people with this much stupidity can manage to survive life? Sometimes I am thinking, this much "stupidity" should be a crime and these people should be locked up.

Then I remember the infamous saying "Ignorance is bliss".

Maybe they are having a happier life than I am just because they are plain stupid.

I am NOT here to offend anybody, just saying.

By posting something useful. An actual review would be astonishing, although I doubt any gal will see you. You seem like too much of a douche.

[ClassASweetie]

I mentioned this in another post but I will talk about it again.

When I talk with a provider to setup something, I always ask about the menu in detail. I have some deal breakers like no dfk, no cim, no deal at all.

Some of the girls are being extremely cautious and refuse to talk about these details on the phone. They think I am a cop to hunt them down on the phone. Somehow, they believe providing this info on the phone will get them arrested.

Some of them tells me that they will not provide this information on the phone. That's fine, I just move on.

Some of them breaks the communication at that point. That is rude.

Some of them are just plain crazy. A couple of them asked me to send them a picture of my tool with my face in it, just to prove that I am not a cop. Ohh really?

I don't know the right word for this (weird, funny, annoying, absurd or whatever) but the most common response is "We will talk when you are here". I will not be there if I can't get answers to my questions honey. Why would I drive all the way to you, just to get my answers and then decide to stay or not stay after talking with you?!

Anyway, by now I got used to this and nothing much surprises me in this subject anymore. I just move on and don't think about it too much. Like I said, I believe some of these girls are extremely cautious but some of them are just plain idiots.

Now this happened to me very recently.

I PMed a senior member about a contact infomation which he possibly might have and I got this reply. Not the same exact words but something in this line.

"Mr. Deepblue with 5 posts, I will not share it with you OFFICER".

Sometimes I am wondering how these people with this much stupidity can manage to survive life? Sometimes I am thinking, this much "stupidity" should be a crime and these people should be locked up.

Then I remember the infamous saying "Ignorance is bliss".

Maybe they are having a happier life than I am just because they are plain stupid.

I am NOT here to offend anybody, just saying.

Us providers need safety too and for us to talk about our menus to a stranger on other end of phone is a no no. We don't know who you are, what you are, what your about and what your going to do. We take enuf risk but we are far from stupid when it comes to safety. You obviously don't care about safety at all. How do you ever know who your really talking too. Unless it's a well reviewed provider as myself you actually wouldn't know. I don't even talk menu over phone with seniors or after reference verification. Reviews say it all though and unless you research your most likely not going to know anything on a provider. But for real to call us stupid and downgrade us like this, is flat out disrespectful and rude. We are humans too and have family kids etc. You are not worth us losing everything we have because of your selfishness. Money doesn't come first to me and some other providers but safety does. I really think you need to quite thinking of only yourself and quite being selfish and show some respect. Just saying.

[Nky777]

Am I the only one that thinks tbe majority if not all the providers are charging to much fucking money?

Theres no way a bng should ever be $60 or even $40 that shit is ridiculous. And when I see a provider for cfs I don't have the time to spend with them. So I seek a qv. I want to get in get off snd get out chances are fifteen minutes and I'm out the door. I don't need to be cuddled or sweet talked so why the hell would I pay $60 $80 or $100 or more. I'm not a bad looking fella and ill be damned if I'm going to pay these broads more by the half hour than I make myself in a whole hour. The sad thing is fellow mongers pay these outrageous prices and these girls feel like there entitled because of it. I understand that some girls are better looking than others but in the end its the same fucking result. I'm going to drop my load and be out.