Grand Rapids Pugilistic Society

[Benz1]

Time to weigh in.

I'll start with a few questions.

Does anyone remember a B25 review that included a French Lesson? I do.

Why would B25 ad the Latina?

To share the Money? I doubt it.

I have read between the lines of her reviews and you should too.

I know of a massuse that only does HJ endings but if you pay enough she will bring in a young blonde thing for a duo and full service. They are out of my price range so I don't participate or promote their GPS.

Charles has been with us a long time and he has occasionally updated us on what is good or bad in our community.

My guess is he wanted to tell us what a good time he had with both. He also realized that he might not get the same treatment next time, if he revealed all.

After doing the math, regardless what is offered, it still would not be worth it for me. It still looks like GPS.

CharlieSunrise has been an asset to our forum and I hope he will continue to be.

CharlieSunrise, there is no reason to respond to this post.

Average girls do it better!

Happy Hunting.

[Otto22]

You guys amaze me, you want people to write reviews yet when someone does you come unglued and go off on them for what they paid. (For clarification, yes I Paid $320 for the hour duo. And will likely do it again.) For what? You worried I'm going to run the market up out of your price range? How is that my problem? All you do when ridiculing people is run them off, then the forum and information will start to dry up. I've been in this game long enough to know how it goes, I know MY PRICE for quality time and what I want in that time is between me and the provider I choose. I knew what the price was going in and what I was going to receive. If you don't like what a provider charges or what they provide for that fee then pick someone else it's that simple. If supply and demand runs you out of the game, or into a lower quality bracket that is not my fault.

I don't think you intended to insult the brotherhood here but you may well have done so. When you say "How is that my problem?" you don't seem to recognize the fraternal nature of this sight. We share information to assist our brothers to make informed, efficient and safe mongering decisions. Your attitude seems to be that pricing is irrelevant to us all. I assure you that pricing matters and we try not to encourage GPS. While I completely agree that what you choose to pay for services is entirely your business, the effects of your decision can cause price inflation and that affects all of us. Thanks for your review and keep 'them coming but recognize that we are all in a common ecosystem in this hobby.

[Cap Augie Nemo]

Anyone remember burly and synergy?

Fuck all the as you put it, "Cheap Bastards"! Charlie takes care of Charlie.

[Moonglow913]

You by yourself won't, but it's about how the market's pushed collectively -- and understanding. If you were an out-of-towner doing a one-an-done thing, it wouldn't have any effect. Aside from that tho -- it's also a "You sure about going that far on price when you switch it up, dude?" *smile* Again, I can't argue with their HHR, single or duo price -- given how hot + how good they do their massage. That's not what it's about.

But going to the HR range, even solo, let alone adding a tip to the auto-tip-part-of-base-price. That's where the awareness thing steps in that that's way too much compared to the rest of the market -- even fellow Great massage girls.

Look, if you were lobbying for an hour, and B25 was like "We don't like hours, so we charge a lot more. But if you want it, we actually have an opening," I can understand that more, and just some guys razzing ya a bit. But the problem is, you're looking at it as a "You get what you pay for" POV. Actually, you're not getting a good deal VS the Market, even on the high-class level for a massage. That's the point. It's not about what I'm willing to pay, a cheapskate's willing to pay, or whatever.

I'm not trying to ridicule ya. I'm trying to put things in perspective. I like you adding the review -- really do. But what if a (new) guy goes to a Asian massage parlor for a hhr service, and he pays her $100 to take off her clothes and another $100 for a standard / mechanical HE -- and he reports how she was nice, no short on time, and her pics were 100% her and inarguably Real cute: He too could say "Hey, stop razzing me -- it's MY price. If supply and demand runs you out, tough!

The bottom line is that you don't believe it was That ridiculous, while others will disagree that it's not far from it. I appreciate you laying it all out there, I do. And some guys can be too harsh about razzing ya, but at the same time, folks will mention when you got a GREAT DEAL vs Paid-Way-Too-Much. I think B25's HHR is a Good Deal given everything for the hhr (assuming little to no extra tip) -- but obviously the hour price is a reflection of what she's said about not being a fan of scheduling Hour sessions. And yeah, it's not a good deal (UNLESS one's getting more than a great rubdown; then it goes anywhere from close to or at the Norm).

B25 and her friend are reading all this and laughing their heads off?

[Charlie441]

you want people to write reviews yet when someone does you come unglued and go off on them for what they paid. For what? You worried I'm going to run the market up out of your price range? How is that my problem?

You by yourself won't, but it's about how the market's pushed collectively -- and understanding. If you were an out-of-towner doing a one-an-done thing, it wouldn't have any effect. Aside from that tho -- it's also a "You sure about going that far on price when you switch it up, dude?" *smile* Again, I can't argue with their HHR, single or duo price -- given how hot + how good they do their massage. That's not what it's about.

But going to the HR range, even solo, let alone adding a tip to the auto-tip-part-of-base-price. That's where the awareness thing steps in that that's way too much compared to the rest of the market -- even fellow Great massage girls.

Look, if you were lobbying for an hour, and B25 was like "We don't like hours, so we charge a lot more. But if you want it, we actually have an opening," I can understand that more, and just some guys razzing ya a bit. But the problem is, you're looking at it as a "You get what you pay for" POV. Actually, you're not getting a good deal VS the Market, even on the high-class level for a massage. That's the point. It's not about what I'm willing to pay, a cheapskate's willing to pay, or whatever.

I'm not trying to ridicule ya. I'm trying to put things in perspective. I like you adding the review -- really do. But what if a (new) guy goes to a Asian massage parlor for a hhr service, and he pays her $100 to take off her clothes and another $100 for a standard / mechanical HE -- and he reports how she was nice, no short on time, and her pics were 100% her and inarguably Real cute: He too could say "Hey, stop razzing me -- it's MY price. If supply and demand runs you out, tough!

The bottom line is that you don't believe it was That ridiculous, while others will disagree that it's not far from it. I appreciate you laying it all out there, I do. And some guys can be too harsh about razzing ya, but at the same time, folks will mention when you got a GREAT DEAL vs Paid-Way-Too-Much. I think B25's HHR is a Good Deal given everything for the hhr (assuming little to no extra tip) -- but obviously the hour price is a reflection of what she's said about not being a fan of scheduling Hour sessions. And yeah, it's not a good deal (UNLESS one's getting more than a great rubdown; then it goes anywhere from close to or at the Norm).

[NoseJelly]

You worried I'm going to run the market up out of your price range? How is that my problem?

If supply and demand runs you out of the game, or into a lower quality bracket that is not my fault.

Fuck all the as you put it, "Cheap Bastards"! Charlie takes care of Charlie.

[Akenathon]

You guys amaze me, you want people to write reviews yet when someone does you come unglued and go off on them for what they paid. (For clarification, yes I Paid $320 for the hour duo. And will likely do it again.) For what? You worried I'm going to run the market up out of your price range? How is that my problem? All you do when ridiculing people is run them off, then the forum and information will start to dry up. I've been in this game long enough to know how it goes, I know MY PRICE for quality time and what I want in that time is between me and the provider I choose. I knew what the price was going in and what I was going to receive. If you don't like what a provider charges or what they provide for that fee then pick someone else it's that simple. If supply and demand runs you out of the game, or into a lower quality bracket that is not my fault.

I went to see Mikki in Lansing, I paid 60 for the hour, and I tipped her 100 she asked me where do I am from I said GR she said GR guys tip 200 cause another guy from GR paid that couple weeks ago, I said fuck it in a good manner LOL, I only have 100 take it or leave it. She ends giving me the same service for half the price. I'll be back there cause she gave me one of my best experiences in a massage parlor.

[CharlieSunrise]

You guys amaze me, you want people to write reviews yet when someone does you come unglued and go off on them for what they paid. (For clarification, yes I Paid $320 for the hour duo. And will likely do it again.) For what? You worried I'm going to run the market up out of your price range? How is that my problem? All you do when ridiculing people is run them off, then the forum and information will start to dry up. I've been in this game long enough to know how it goes, I know MY PRICE for quality time and what I want in that time is between me and the provider I choose. I knew what the price was going in and what I was going to receive. If you don't like what a provider charges or what they provide for that fee then pick someone else it's that simple. If supply and demand runs you out of the game, or into a lower quality bracket that is not my fault.

[Akenathon]

Ok guys, I pulled the trigger I opened an account in SA I found a few girls that I know personally, I found a few BP and CL girls and the funny thing I found a cousin yeah I found a cousin LOL Man I don't know what to say of course I use a fake pic, I'll try to have a blind date with her and I'll fuck her cause she is pretty LOL.

[IrishGuy77]

Ok guys I am in my mid 30's, and I like cougars. I was dating a pretty lady she was 60 years old, that's right, but she looked better than most of 90 % of those BP girls, ahe has a body like Jada love for real.

She is married and don't want to meet anymore. I been trying to find another cougar, I tried a few local bars with no luck.

Can you guys tell me a dating site to find cougars? Thanks in advance.

You can try Adult Friend Finder. You might find a few near 60, not sure you will find a body like that. But there are some freaks on there, in a good way! Good luck!

[Charlie441]

Ok guys I am in my mid 30's, and I like cougars. I was dating a pretty lady she was 60 years old, that's right, but she looked better than most of 90 % of those BP girls, ahe has a body like Jada love for real.

She is married and don't want to meet anymore. I been trying to find another cougar, I tried a few local bars with no luck.

Can you guys tell me a dating site to find cougars? Thanks in advance.

You can go on any dating site to find women of any age, although going 60+ -- good luck with that, if you're looking for ones that are good looking among the good looking women in their 30's /40's. Going for 60+ is beyond cougar, or MILF (a cougar who's a mom) -- more like gMILF or "Puma". Which is fine, hey, tastes are tastes. I've seen some women in their 60's who look good and not just for their age but compared to good looking women in their 30's, but they're super rare. To find women in their 60's who look Great For Their Age -- easier. And I'd just google the various websites, but hitting up plenty of fish and Match may do it for ya. And they do have Cougar sites which I'm sure women of any age over 35 joins, but basically -- expect your options to be limited.

You may also want to hit up bars where older people feel comfortable hanging out at. One used to be downtown (where it's now called the Back Forty country bar), years ago. Turns out many swingers would go there, but the average age was in the 40's, with many in their 50's and into the 60's. Dunno of any bar to that extent, but basically go to ones where it doesn't attract the under 25 crowds, and be up for going to happy hour where older people tend to gather.

[Akenathon]

Ok guys I am in my mid 30's, and I like cougars. I was dating a pretty lady she was 60 years old, that's right, but she looked better than most of 90 % of those BP girls, ahe has a body like Jada love for real.

She is married and don't want to meet anymore. I been trying to find another cougar, I tried a few local bars with no luck.

Can you guys tell me a dating site to find cougars? Thanks in advance.

[IrishGuy77]

I was replying to what you were replying to. About some gals over-pricing themselves. And yeah, $200 for a half hour is ridiculous. It's out there, though rare. My point was, IF even an ugly girl can somehow Get $200/ hhr, and get it frequently, then her market value Is $200/ hhr based on the (type of) clients she sees, whether we like it or not. Which is why guys (mostly just readers) shouldn't be throwing down massive tips or biting on an over-reaching price to working girls or even massage parlors, as that can give the gals a false impression they're worth more than they are -- and it just creates a hassle for both them & us when that's not true. And it can over-inflate her market value, of course, which we don't want.

That makes sense. Your exactly right that some charge more than they are worth. That's why I like reading posts from senior members so I won't see the ones who charge too much. Thanks again.

[Charlie441]

Not sure what this has to do with my post. But never heard of 200 for half hour.

I was replying to what you were replying to. About some gals over-pricing themselves. And yeah, $200 for a half hour is ridiculous. It's out there, though rare. My point was, IF even an ugly girl can somehow Get $200/ hhr, and get it frequently, then her market value Is $200/ hhr based on the (type of) clients she sees, whether we like it or not. Which is why guys (mostly just readers) shouldn't be throwing down massive tips or biting on an over-reaching price to working girls or even massage parlors, as that can give the gals a false impression they're worth more than they are -- and it just creates a hassle for both them & us when that's not true. And it can over-inflate her market value, of course, which we don't want.

[IrishGuy77]

It all cums down to whether or not guys will be forking over her desired amt of $ for what she does. If she's an Ugly Betty but gets guys, hand over fist, putting out $200 for a half hour -- that is her market value, like it or not. She can still be a b!tch about it, but as long as that doesn't put a dent in her consumers, that's just another subject.

Which is why I think guys need to be occasionally reminded to have some balls and to think with the bigger head instead of the little one, when the rubber meats the road. Otherwise, you're inflating a gal's market value who's not objectively worthy of it.

Not sure what this has to do with my post. But never heard of 200 for half hour.