Prices

[Ho Watcher]

Book Guy, you make some good points, though I'm not too sure about your last two paragraphs. I don't think you can blame the USA situation primarily on women. The men here are rather conservative/religious, and many of them support anti-prostitution law. Probably the allowance of "tease" is a free speech issue. They'd stop porno, including the very softcore junk on TV, if they could.

I posted a report on one of the Baltimore threads that might shed some light on how commercial sex in the USA got the way it is. Rather than repost the whole thing, here is the link.

http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/sh...439#post551439

[Big Red50]

If you pick up a SW in Balmer prior to sexing her you have to play several rounds of R U A Cop. There are several answers to the question, I will not recommend an answer, because on a previous Balmer-General Reports Post #2225 dated 10/24/06, I got my ass flamed good for having an opinion Hon.
Ok, that is the information, now for instructions, don’t you Mongers fuck up the SW tuition system while you are here Hon. Here are Balmer rates if you Monger please adhere to these Hon.

• BBBJ One jack if CIM or swallow you may tip a nickel Hon.
• BBBJ and CFS half and half, 2 jacks, again if there is CIM, swallow or anal you may tip no more than one half jack to one jack Hon. That’s not one and a half jacks only one half of a jack Hon.
• If the SW provides a room you may up tuition one half jack Hon.

Thanks Hon

Big Red from Balmer

[Redsox2005]

Northwest Florida I have never paid more than $20 for a CBJ. This is in the last 3 years. I once picked up a girl who said her mom was in jail and trying to raise money, she actually only asked for $10. So it was a deal. Saw her the next day for the exact same thing. Unbelievable.

[Mighty Max]

It is my opinion that it is basically illegal for a man to need sex from women in this country.

This statement is perhaps the most true statement I have read in a week.

[AmIaCriminal2]

"Sure, different countries have different levels of prostitute availability, and some extremely conservative lands have essentially elminated it. But basically the USA is the most sexually liberal in the SHOW of sexuality, relative to the real level of genuinely AVAILABLE sexuality. The Saudis say, "No sex!" and mean it. The Indians say, "Sure, sex!" and mean it. The Philippinos say, "Umm, sex maybe!" and mean it. The Americans say, "No sex!" and then prance around naked on TV, create the VCR porn revolution, and invent the internet. Weird."...

My guess is it is government population controll. If you notice how our culture is being fueled first by the entrance of crack and rap and Affirmative Action, it places the average young womans idea of a succesful man looking nothing like me. Add in welfare and child support to a woman it appears that your average American Male is being regulated out of existance, and if an average joe does get to have sex a few times, then he can be enslaved for the next 20 years through child support, and that even leads to the divorce incidence in this country with silly excuses like "I don't love him anymore".

It is my opinion that it is basically illegal for a man to need sex from women in this country.

[Baltimonger]

I live with a SW who has moved on to posting with CL. She has gone from $20-60 dates to nothing less than $100. Even when her posts ask for $70-80, guys still routinely pay her anywhere from $100-500 at a time. I don't know why anyone would pay out this kind of money for sex, but I have theories:
The typical CL, and other web sites hunter is not willing to spend time hunting for poon on skid row; may be long on cash, but short on time, such as the manager or CEO who wants a quick hook up without the missus knowing; may be from out of town on business, and is playing with the company's money; or may not have areas to hunt, or at least doesn't know about them.

Her take tonight:
2 dates. $650 total, including a 1 minute BBBJ. One out-of towner, and another who lives too far away from the SW loops.

[Master76]

Recently used http://www.gia.com.ua

Here are the prices:

1 hour $110
2 hours $160,
3 hours $200
4 hours $240,
6 hours $280,
8 hours $320,
10 hours $360,
12 hours $400,
1 day $500,
2 days $900

[Member #4186]

Book Guy, you make some good points, though I'm not too sure about your last two paragraphs. I don't think you can blame the USA situation primarily on women. ... etc.

Snake: good points. I understand your point about puritanical and religious men -- I have been, many times in my life, surrounded by them! -- but I still think the "root cause" is women, and their response to materialism. It's not really an arguable proposition, just a gut feeling. I came to this belief through participation in the Club H discussion boards, where men pointed out that even a girl from a "traditional" culture who is brought to America will (and quite quickly, too!) convert to a "suburban frigid housewife" because of material desires. Evidently it has something to do with fingernail manicures ...

Anyway, whatever the "root cause," the USA has an odd resistance to letting men get off their rocks. I want to get my rocks off more often, but I live in the USA. I think we should change the culture around us. Complaining about it is a first step. An ineffectual one, yes, but a first one none the less.

[Member #4186]

Fools? I'm regularly paying $150 to $200 for a single pop at an Asian massage / lingerie type place. Or $300 and up to ferret my way through strip club vagaries, meeting girls, drinking, finding one who looks good enough for the lapper, trying to find one who will offer something in the back room or outside the club, etc. etc. Fools? It's just the market.

Then again, maybe we're fools to let the market determine our sexual wellbeing.

[Hizark21]

I am just amazed how much cheaper the prices are in east and mid west. A lot of it is because there is less good WSW's in the past 3 or 4 years. Most of the good SW's are from out of town in San Diego. The other factor is that there is a lot less crack SW's than there used to be.

It's one thing to pay $30 or $40, but I can't believe some fools are willing to pay $60 or $80. Personally I just say no.

[Benchseats Rock]

I can't believe that more mongers are not willing to help keep prices down. A lot of fools pay $80 or $60 for a bj. They just don't seem to understand that you can get 2 bj's if they hold out.

BJ prices in SD is $30-$40.
Facials with bj: $30-60. A good negotiating tactic is too start low and offer $10 or $20 for a facial. Most SW's will start off with $40, I then counter offer with $30 for bj plus $10 or possibly $20 for a facial. This negotiating tactic works very well. In many cases you will have trouble convincing the SW. I generally tell the SW that they are getting a extra $10 for a few minutes of grossness. 80% of the time the SW will go for the offer..

Tell me about it.

Baltimore prices are $20 for a BBBJ / $40 for FS and you can tip if you want, but never more than a $10. Some if not all at one point will say they get more, all will go for these standard prices - more than occasionally you can get FS for $30 if not for less.


Benchseats Rock

[Hizark21]

I can't believe that more mongers are not willing to help keep prices down. A lot of fools pay $80 or $60 for a bj. They just don't seem to understand that you can get 2 bj's if they hold out.

BJ prices in SD is $30-$40.
Facials with bj: $30-60. A good negotiating tactic is too start low and offer $10 or $20 for a facial. Most SW's will start off with $40, I then counter offer with $30 for bj plus $10 or possibly $20 for a facial. This negotiating tactic works very well. In many cases you will have trouble convincing the SW. I generally tell the SW that they are getting a extra $10 for a few minutes of grossness. 80% of the time the SW will go for the offer..

[Snake27]

Book Guy, you make some good points, though I'm not too sure about your last two paragraphs. I don't think you can blame the USA situation primarily on women. The men here are rather conservative/religious, and many of them support anti-prostitution law. Probably the allowance of "tease" is a free speech issue. They'd stop porno, including the very softcore junk on TV, if they could.

Anyway, in a weird way the strong enforcement of prostitution laws has helped me. I used to live in Europe. Years ago when I visited a big European city (especially in Germany) I would be like a kid in a candy store and I spent WAY too much. Ever been to an FKK ? But nowadays I just look at the escort ads and say "that's nice, but too bad it's so expensive". And I can get it for free -- not from a stripclub hottie, but from an "ordinary" woman my own age, so I'm not desperate to pay those prices, though as I said I sometimes visit an AMP. I prefer to save my money for when I travel to another country, which happens mostly on business. Then it's an adventure and the prices are more reasonable too.

[Member #4186]

It's funny how, here in the good ol' US of A, we have this strange come-here go-away attitude toward sexuality. For example, the Britney / Aguilera girls are constantly displaying overt acts of sexual desirability, to the extent that many religiously conservative nations ban their rock videos and exhort their young men and women to look away from the "sinful West."

But in those same foreign countries, generally, it's not particularly difficult or expensive to find a "normal" experience with what would amount to a prostitute, at a cheap enough rate that their average middle-class male worker can afford it about twice a month and at a level of enforcement that makes the risk of police action almost negligible.

Sure, different countries have different levels of prostitute availability, and some extremely conservative lands have essentially elminated it. But basically the USA is the most sexually liberal in the SHOW of sexuality, relative to the real level of genuinely AVAILABLE sexuality. The Saudis say, "No sex!" and mean it. The Indians say, "Sure, sex!" and mean it. The Philippinos say, "Umm, sex maybe!" and mean it. The Americans say, "No sex!" and then prance around naked on TV, create the VCR porn revolution, and invent the internet. Weird.

So, to have all this internet and MTV and ads for escorts all over the phone booths, on the one hand; and then to make it illegal and to enforce against it more than, essentially, nearly every other country in the world? What gives?

Hypocrisy, obviously; and a Puritanical heritage unfortunately interfered with from the good ol' free market; and (I hasten to add) morbid obesity and extremely materialistic anti-sexual hysteria among the younger women.

Frankly, I think it's the young women. Ever been to Denmark? People are fucking -- and fucking STRANGERS often! -- right and left. And they're educated, decent folk, not taking undue risks, playing by "the relationship rules" enough. Not in the USA. If most of our American young-adult and middle-aged men were getting boned by hotties (or married to women who were sexually adventuresome), would the market for prostitutes on the internet be what it is in the USA?

I have heard, often, that men are "supposed" to not settle for a sexually frigid woman. That we have CHOICE in whom we have congress with. But really, when do we have the option, here in the USA, of being the chooser? Beggars can't be ...

[Snake27]

Hizark, it probably depends on the city, as well as one's standards. E.g. one factor influencing me lately is that I tend to seek more of a GFE, something that's very hard to find among girls doing a high volume. And it's hard to find in any case, but I'm patient and enjoy the hunt.

On another note, I was thinking that the reason the prices in the USA are so high generally is that prostitution is illegal and the laws are heavily enforced. We have basically a puritanical anti-sex police state here, though I hasten to add that I otherwise love the USA. A lot of girls are afraid to advertise themself. They fear stings that occassionally happen on eros or CL. This reduces the supply of girls which increases the price -- simple economics. In Germany, where the sex trade is legal, the supply is higher and the prices lower. Having said that, I don't begrudge the girls their prices. They should get whatever the market will bear. If they can find some rich fool to shell out $500, that's cool with me.