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  1. #948
    Quote Originally Posted by NiceAndFun  [View Original Post]
    Careful. One SB was offended by my offer. Next thing you know, I get perm banned from the site for "soliciting prostitution. ".
    For newbies, it is really important to spend a lot of time reading these threads, not just for SD, but there is a national thread based on Richmond VA. An archive is kept there of all the most important how-tos. In particular, if you are messaging on the site about specific $ amounts, you are at risk. Just take it off the site, to text or email. If you can't get a girl to message you off the site, you aren't going to FC her anyway.

  2. #947
    Quote Originally Posted by PussyPumper  [View Original Post]
    Probably two things going on.

    - LA listing. I get the feeling that LA may be x2 times San Diego in terms of expected donation? San Diego is a college town in ways. Lots of competition to find a "daddy". There really are 4 SB listings for every SD in this area.

    - Pro / semi-pro vibe?
    Careful. One SB was offended by my offer. Next thing you know, I get perm banned from the site for "soliciting prostitution. ".

  3. #946
    Quote Originally Posted by KingBaby  [View Original Post]
    This 1 reached out to me and said she does PPM and it's 800 each. I told her politely that it's too high for ppm, then she went "Well, when I tell you, it means that's what I receive. There're guys who spend that amount. " Then blocked me. Got an attitude .
    Probably two things going on.

    - LA listing. I get the feeling that LA may be x2 times San Diego in terms of expected donation? San Diego is a college town in ways. Lots of competition to find a "daddy". There really are 4 SB listings for every SD in this area.

    - Pro / semi-pro vibe?

  4. #945

    Thank her

    Quote Originally Posted by KingBaby  [View Original Post]
    This 1 reached out to me and said she does PPM and it's 800 each. I told her politely that it's too high for ppm, then she went "Well, when I tell you, it means that's what I receive. There're guys who spend that amount. " Then blocked me. Got an attitude .
    Sounds like she just saved you some time and money! Thanks for sharing!

  5. #944

    Another GPS

    This 1 reached out to me and said she does PPM and it's 800 each. I told her politely that it's too high for ppm, then she went "Well, when I tell you, it means that's what I receive. There're guys who spend that amount. " Then blocked me. Got an attitude .
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  6. #943
    Quote Originally Posted by Cruzier1  [View Original Post]
    Really appreciate the write up! I think my fear is the 3 that were not happy with the donation. I might just need to get over it. Cheers!
    What are you worried about? These girls don't travel with muscle. I wrote up the three who weren't happy with the donation on another forum, but here is the Cliff note version:

    1. SB was completely gone and only bitched via text. At that point it's completely too late. What am I going to do, unfuck her? She was actually sweet in the texts, said she really enjoyed being with me, but couldn't repeat without a substantial increase. We parted amicably via text.

    2. SB said "we agreed" to more money via text. We hadn't, and she wasn't really very bothered. Took off without me having to push her out the door, think she would have been willing to meet again for the same donation but she moved out of area.

    3. SB had left the room without looking in envelope. Came back knocking on door. If you are really worried, you just don't open the door in that situation. I did open door, we talked, she had kind of a sandy vagina about it but didn't hit me or scream or anything and took off.

    These three are the outliers. LOTS of others accepted the same donation amount, didn't complain and were willing to repeat.
    Last edited by DogBert77; 03-24-19 at 21:53. Reason: Got censored

  7. #942

    Cheers Mate

    Quote Originally Posted by DogBert77  [View Original Post]
    Here's my technique: I don't ask and I don't get to a price. Ever. It is amazing how many girls will go the the FC with you (or at least will go the FC with me!) without any discussion of price. For me, this is a way to weed out the real pro's because I prefer a less professional vibe. I don't think any true professional is going to do you without a clear agreement on price. I know I miss out on some good looking semi-pros this way, but it also helps me focus on the real non-pros. It takes more time than just throwing out numbers online, but I believe it yields better results.

    Most of the time, I just ask to meet me for a coffee or a drink. If they insist talking on numbers before meeting, I don't meet them. Sometimes I play along with talking numbers online for "market research," but I never meet any of those girls. At the meet & greet, I size them up and decide whether to pursue. Almost always I do pursue because they are usually quite good looking. I've only had a few bring up cash at M&G. One of them said she wanted to text about it afterwards. She accepted my offer and went straight to FC second meet. The others all asked about cash at M&G, accepted the offer and went to FC first meet. Assuming they don't bring up cash, at some point in the M&G, I ask them if they want to purse an arrangement right away, or ask if they want to go to the hotel, or if they want to go upstairs if we are already in the hotel bar. Two out of three or more say yes on first meet, and the others I score on a follow up mission. I've never had one I wanted who wouldn't go to the FC at least on second meet. Once there, I just proceed to escalate like I was on a date and I assume they will comply with what I want. But at this point, it's not an act, I've done enough of them to know that if they go to FC, they will fuck. I never bring up cash and I've never had one who brought it up after going to FC. Afterwards, I slip cash in their purse or pocket.

    This way allows the girls to tell themselves they are not hookers. Sometimes, it allows you to nail a semi-pro who is out of your price range, but who thinks she will get more by not negotiating and waiting to see what you you give voluntarily. Almost all of the girls I have been with have been fine with the donation and didn't speak of it. I have had three that were not happy with the donation, but at that point it was too late for them to negotiate and I had at least fucked them once.

    I am laying this out because I think my approach is different from most guys on here. I think most guys do discuss price online, and don't meet with the girls who are too expensive. That way probably saves a lot of time if you just want to get your dick wet with an attractive girl. I like my approach because I believe that, while it may take more work, it results in more hook-ups with non-pros, or at least girls who are less pro, which are my preference.
    Really appreciate the write up! I think my fear is the 3 that were not happy with the donation. I might just need to get over it. Cheers!

  8. #941
    Quote Originally Posted by OcasianBoy  [View Original Post]
    https://www.seeking.com/member/4f781...4-bf38fb6456fb

    Asian girl cool with ppm. Anybody seen her or have any info?
    Is she just visiting? Very pro look, but strangely also says "platonic". She joined 2 years ago. I think I would have noticed her if she was local.

  9. #940

    Some tips

    Quote Originally Posted by JoeJoesph  [View Original Post]
    Where could I read about tips on sugardaddying? Are there any forums that are made for newbies?
    General Tips.

    - always keep in mind, you win some then lose some.

    - build a rapport, it can be corny to some trying to get to know someone but it helps ease up the communication which will hopefully lead to a meet up.

    - avoid all "model want to be (s)" as they are mostly gps.

    - be leery of seeing "Bb" "baby" "girl" as they tend to be nuts, demanding, and gps.

    - all SB with selfies, mostly selfies, modified selfies tend to be gps

    - if a SB seemed pushy, hasty and seemed in a rush to M&G, expect a high price demand=gps.

    - it takes time to develop rapport, patience is key in trying to feel how things will go. It may take months...a year....

    - if you have been patient but your gut feel is its not going to work out or that things could be costly, move on to the next one.

    - have an exit plan if the meet is not going well or if the meet is going to be unreasonably costly and expensive.

    - lastly, build a rapport and remember, you win some and lose some.

    Cheers!

  10. #939
    Quote Originally Posted by JakeDSnake  [View Original Post]
    https://www.seeking.com/member/74174...9-e2d1592c9b92

    Been in contact with her for a year. M&G 3 weeks ago at the hotel cocktail bar then settled for 300 for four hours. Went up the room and she stayed overnight instead.
    Damn. Could I venmo you 20 $ for her contact? Haha.

  11. #938
    Quote Originally Posted by DogBert77  [View Original Post]
    Here's my technique: I don't ask and I don't get to a price. Ever. It is amazing how many girls will go the the FC with you (or at least will go the FC with me!) without any discussion of price. For me, this is a way to weed out the real pro's because I prefer a less professional vibe. I don't think any true professional is going to do you without a clear agreement on price. I know I miss out on some good looking semi-pros this way, but it also helps me focus on the real non-pros. It takes more time than just throwing out numbers online, but I believe it yields better results.
    I cut down on your post, but agree overall. This works better for some than others, younger / better looking / more game. I'm 60 and decent in the other areas. I still think it is a mistake to negotiate online, you're getting her 'escort' price. She's agreeing to FC someone she's never seen in person. I recently met a 25 YO skinny, hot / GND SB, works as a cart girl at a country club, we met 'out' a few times, the last time concluding w / a hot makeout session in my car. I was confident about her, gave her $ to get us a room. We met there w / no agreement on sugar, I gave her 250 cash + a 50 gift card. She's meeting me again, so I guess that's good enough.

  12. #937

    3 weeks ago

    https://www.seeking.com/member/74174...9-e2d1592c9b92

    Been in contact with her for a year. M&G 3 weeks ago at the hotel cocktail bar then settled for 300 for four hours. Went up the room and she stayed overnight instead.
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  13. #936
    Quote Originally Posted by Cruzier1  [View Original Post]
    What is your technique for getting a price? Perhaps you just outright ask. I'm still very new to SA and it is taking me forever to get to the prices. I would be angry spending as much time as I do only to hear those numbers!

    Are there non-gps prices to be had or is this the new normal? I've had one say 3 and that was a lot to me.

    Cruzier.
    Here's my technique: I don't ask and I don't get to a price. Ever. It is amazing how many girls will go the the FC with you (or at least will go the FC with me!) without any discussion of price. For me, this is a way to weed out the real pro's because I prefer a less professional vibe. I don't think any true professional is going to do you without a clear agreement on price. I know I miss out on some good looking semi-pros this way, but it also helps me focus on the real non-pros. It takes more time than just throwing out numbers online, but I believe it yields better results.

    Most of the time, I just ask to meet me for a coffee or a drink. If they insist talking on numbers before meeting, I don't meet them. Sometimes I play along with talking numbers online for "market research," but I never meet any of those girls. At the meet & greet, I size them up and decide whether to pursue. Almost always I do pursue because they are usually quite good looking. I've only had a few bring up cash at M&G. One of them said she wanted to text about it afterwards. She accepted my offer and went straight to FC second meet. The others all asked about cash at M&G, accepted the offer and went to FC first meet. Assuming they don't bring up cash, at some point in the M&G, I ask them if they want to purse an arrangement right away, or ask if they want to go to the hotel, or if they want to go upstairs if we are already in the hotel bar. Two out of three or more say yes on first meet, and the others I score on a follow up mission. I've never had one I wanted who wouldn't go to the FC at least on second meet. Once there, I just proceed to escalate like I was on a date and I assume they will comply with what I want. But at this point, it's not an act, I've done enough of them to know that if they go to FC, they will fuck. I never bring up cash and I've never had one who brought it up after going to FC. Afterwards, I slip cash in their purse or pocket.

    This way allows the girls to tell themselves they are not hookers. Sometimes, it allows you to nail a semi-pro who is out of your price range, but who thinks she will get more by not negotiating and waiting to see what you you give voluntarily. Almost all of the girls I have been with have been fine with the donation and didn't speak of it. I have had three that were not happy with the donation, but at that point it was too late for them to negotiate and I had at least fucked them once.

    I am laying this out because I think my approach is different from most guys on here. I think most guys do discuss price online, and don't meet with the girls who are too expensive. That way probably saves a lot of time if you just want to get your dick wet with an attractive girl. I like my approach because I believe that, while it may take more work, it results in more hook-ups with non-pros, or at least girls who are less pro, which are my preference.

  14. #935

    Any info?

    https://www.seeking.com/member/4f781...4-bf38fb6456fb

    Asian girl cool with ppm. Anybody seen her or have any info?

  15. #934

    GPS or Delusional

    Sugarangel I'd consider for half her asking price, but the only thing I'd give the rest of those gals is crabs! To be clearly, I'm not talking about dinner at Joes Crabshack. Interesting post!


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