"Sugarbabies" / "Arrangements" Amateurs or Not?

**Tyrex2** · 08-01-22 14:45

Originally Posted by PartyTimeGuy [View Original Post]

Cute. Petite. Full of energy. Adventurous. Playful. Sassy. Likes to tease with dirty talk. Masturbates to get me hot. Loves to be spanked and have it rough. Makes it a game to see how many times she can get me to pop before I am totally worn out. Does pretty much does anything I want. Nothing is perfect but this comes damn close.

You sir are a lucky SOB LOL. If you want to ever share your toy, I'd be happy to play nice her, as would I'm guessing a lot of other folks here.

**FarFarAway** · 08-01-22 14:08

I hear you, Bam. This girl, smoking hot spinner, was one-third my age at the time I FC her. Her ask for 'sugar'? - a Barbie makeup kit that cost around $160. So submissive, loved to call me daddy. However, she asked for future meetings if I could get magic mushrooms for her / us. I just could not get around that and didn't see her again. I still see she is on the seeking site in southern California.

**WakeForYou** · 08-01-22 11:16

Originally Posted by ErnestLl [View Original Post]

She's been on before, but not in over 6 months. Killer private pics. Serious stripper vibe https://members.seeking.com/member/2...1-59134aac5f4b.

Any intel?

Definitely not a stripper. She's been on and off the site for years. Young professional with alternate views on relationships / monogamy. Reviewed well when she has been reviewed.

**Ernest Ll** · 08-01-22 08:25

She's been on before, but not in over 6 months. Killer private pics. Serious stripper vibe https://members.seeking.com/member/2...1-59134aac5f4b.

Any intel?

**OliverNP** · 08-01-22 08:18

First, I'll say that the fact an SB smokes weed is in no way going to prevent me from fucking her, but in most cases when I find an SB doing drugs of any kind, I drop her like one of her own bad habits after the initial banging.

I can't think of a single SB I've ever been concerned about being a health risk due to needle sharing or whatever, most of my girls are college girls or just otherwise in a league so far from streetwalkers that it's never been a concern.

The problem I have with it is simply because, statistically, the number of "weed people" or recreational drug users I've known (plenty) that are reliable human beings is low relative to the number of non-drug users. Specifically, the weedy girls tend to flake more on appointments (even if its just last minute rescheduling) or otherwise do things that amount to wastes of my time, and time is valuable to me. Girls that don't regularly partake in drugs are way more on-the-ball, have much healthier sex drives (being horny only when high doesn't count as a healthy sex drive), are more invested in their arrangements and just generally make better daddy's girls. I also don't like wondering if a girl I'm with is carrying illegal drugs in her purse, even though I've been fortunate enough to never get into the types of legal issues where it would matter.

What I've found is that when people use a substance regularly, it's usually because they "feel a need for it" and that need is almost always based in other personality / mental issues. I just prefer to avoid those issues where possible. Drugs are only sexy to those who need them in order to enjoy sex. To the rest of is they are mainly a filthy habit for the weak.

**PartyTimeGuy** · 08-01-22 00:36

Cute. Petite. Full of energy. Adventurous. Playful. Sassy. Likes to tease with dirty talk. Masturbates to get me hot. Loves to be spanked and have it rough. Makes it a game to see how many times she can get me to pop before I am totally worn out. Does pretty much does anything I want. Nothing is perfect but this comes damn close.

**Zerry** · 07-31-22 18:38

Originally Posted by FarFarAway [View Original Post]

I am not judging *your* choices. I detest smoke of any type, and having a SO, were I to show up at home with *any* sort of weed smell (my SO used to, I am thankful she quit, and primarily b / c of me, but I am sure she knows *exactly* the smell), I could be in for answering some awkward questions. And I have values and self-control, IK many people get into addictions, that doesn't mean I have to have those people in my life, where they can inadvertently do damage to mine.

I likewise won't tolerate a SB who is chronically disorganized / late, I had a POT I was supposed to see just a couple of weeks ago, for our first two meetings, the M&G and a putative FC, she was 45 minutes late, without explanation, texting excuses, etc. , I can't deal with that and stay safe regarding the SO, I need to know when we're going to meet.

Not sure why you're feeling judged.

My only point was, if someone is haggard looking, who cares if its because of drugs? Just don't hook up with haggard chicks. Even if they are on time.

**BamBam** · 07-31-22 16:12

Originally Posted by Zerry [View Original Post]

You're paying for sex. Why such a hard line on drugs? Needle drugs for AIDS sure, but weed? If they look haggard they look haggard, past drug use or not.

I am paying for a sexual experience not just sex. We have discussed this before. The experience I seek is most likely different from what you seek. To each his own, tastes differ, and YMMV! I seek a safe, drama-free, ongoing and fun relationship with a hot young chick that I like and that either likes me or can convincingly fake it for a year or so. I am not going to find that with a chick with messed up teeth or a messed up personal life due to drugs. If either their personal appearance, their private lives or their living space is 'haggard," I am out of there. But that's just me.

BAM.

**BamBam** · 07-31-22 16:04

Originally Posted by FarFarAway [View Original Post]

I have a couple of SBs I have seen this year, their teeth look pretty good but just off, like maybe their two front teeth (and perhaps more) are caps. Since I understand some people w / drug problems lose their teeth, should I take this as an indicator that there was drug use in their past (and be concerned about the present)? The most recent, a 29 year old single mom, admits she likes weed, and I said I wouldn't be around it at all, she backed down by saying she liked edibles. The other one has two early teenage kids, but ex has custody of them.

If the teeth currently look good / okay, ignore them. I avoid women with messed up teeth but that's mostly an appearance issue with me. Dentistry is expensive and often not covered by insurance. If she or family spent money on making them look good, that's a positive in my book.

I do not shy away from casual pot usage but too much use is going to correlate with other problems. I generally avoid any other drugs like the plague. I am looking for inexperienced normal chicks. Typically in college or just out. If they act remotely pay for play, I am gone. Those using drugs are usually like this.

Lack of custody is a pretty big red flag. Lots of women these days are going for joint custody. It's their most reliable way of making sure the guy pays his share of support and gives them more free time to enjoy their lives. If a woman has lost custody of two kids, especially a daughter, you need to probe that pretty hard. Never say never but if she cannot offer a good explanation, I would ease my way out. Too many others willing who have no such risk.

BAM.

**FarFarAway** · 07-31-22 13:17

Originally Posted by Zerry [View Original Post]

You're paying for sex. Why such a hard line on drugs? Needle drugs for AIDS sure, but weed? If they look haggard they look haggard, past drug use or not.

I am not judging *your* choices. I detest smoke of any type, and having a SO, were I to show up at home with *any* sort of weed smell (my SO used to, I am thankful she quit, and primarily b / c of me, but I am sure she knows *exactly* the smell), I could be in for answering some awkward questions. And I have values and self-control, IK many people get into addictions, that doesn't mean I have to have those people in my life, where they can inadvertently do damage to mine.

I likewise won't tolerate a SB who is chronically disorganized / late, I had a POT I was supposed to see just a couple of weeks ago, for our first two meetings, the M&G and a putative FC, she was 45 minutes late, without explanation, texting excuses, etc. , I can't deal with that and stay safe regarding the SO, I need to know when we're going to meet.

**Zerry** · 07-31-22 07:04

Originally Posted by FarFarAway [View Original Post]

I have a couple of SBs I have seen this year, their teeth look pretty good but just off, like maybe their two front teeth (and perhaps more) are caps. Since I understand some people w / drug problems lose their teeth, should I take this as an indicator that there was drug use in their past (and be concerned about the present)? The most recent, a 29 year old single mom, admits she likes weed, and I said I wouldn't be around it at all, she backed down by saying she liked edibles. The other one has two early teenage kids, but ex has custody of them.

You're paying for sex. Why such a hard line on drugs? Needle drugs for AIDS sure, but weed? If they look haggard they look haggard, past drug use or not.

**SailMan2** · 07-31-22 06:24

Originally Posted by FarFarAway [View Original Post]

I have a couple of SBs I have seen this year, their teeth look pretty good but just off, like maybe their two front teeth (and perhaps more) are caps. Since I understand some people w / drug problems lose their teeth, should I take this as an indicator that there was drug use in their past (and be concerned about the present)? The most recent, a 29 year old single mom, admits she likes weed, and I said I wouldn't be around it at all, she backed down by saying she liked edibles. The other one has two early teenage kids, but ex has custody of them.

Bad teeth could be from drugs, eating disorders, poor nutrition or just a shit childhood where there was not a parent to make sure they were brushing their teeth.

Not all, but a good amount of SBS are SBs because something didn't go well in life and they can't get their shit together and end up with dependencies. Again not all, some just like mature guys and the extra income, but in my experience that has been about 25%, maybe even less as I reject alot of potentials.

I wouldn't care about pot use as that is pretty common now. I'm suprised when I find somebody under 30 that isn't using pot at least recreationally.

A mom that loses custody is a warning sign as courts usually favor kids. An exception might be boys living with dad, but if she lost custody of a girl, that's exceptional.

**FarFarAway** · 07-30-22 17:25

I have a couple of SBs I have seen this year, their teeth look pretty good but just off, like maybe their two front teeth (and perhaps more) are caps. Since I understand some people w / drug problems lose their teeth, should I take this as an indicator that there was drug use in their past (and be concerned about the present)? The most recent, a 29 year old single mom, admits she likes weed, and I said I wouldn't be around it at all, she backed down by saying she liked edibles. The other one has two early teenage kids, but ex has custody of them.

**PartyTimeGuy** · 07-30-22 01:35

Originally Posted by TheHobbyLobby [View Original Post]

I have been very lucky and on three occassions I have hooked up with SB and didn't pay anything. My SB we dated for about two months. She went back to her home state but after three years we still keep in touch. I do consider a friend and she does as well. I do like and charish those relationships. However, now, as I am back in the bowl. Those three expriences were like lightining strikes. I don't think I'll ever have that again but a guy can dream.

When I was younger I didn't need to pay for it. There was plenty of tail available for free almost anywhere. I am now 60 plus. I can still get 40 plus tail for free and do. Very occasionally that is also true for 30 somethings. However, if I want 18-30 I will most likely need to offer a monetary incentive. While some sweet young things will be more compatible than others, both sexually and otherwise, it is unlikely that the relationship will be one in which we will continue to be "friends," after the financial arrangement is over. Nor is it likely that my "freebies" will continue as 'friends" after the luster has gone out of the sex. Women and men seem either to be casual acquaintances, sexual partners or incommunicado. At least that has been my experience to date. I suppose an ongoing platonic friendship with a woman could happen. I wouldn't foreclose the possibility. It wouldn't be unpleasant (unless she is just looking for a handy "piggy bank"). But, as you mentioned, ongoing friendships with females when sex is over are probably as rare as lightning strikes. And I have yet to be struck.

**EasyeOne** · 07-27-22 19:11

Originally Posted by EasyeOne [View Original Post]

Working on it as well. I'll update you if anything.

Moving on, we set up a date and then started asking for a paid meet and greet. Claims she gets 300 for a meet and greet. No action on first date. Next!