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03-23-19 15:07 #16306
Posts: 454I totally Agree
I follow the same. Almost all the girls you find on SA are financially irresponsible. I do try to advise them, but I have no huge expectation they are going to change. Whether I give an allowance or how much is solely dependent on what she delivers (only after the delivery is done). I have done "monthly allowance", but it is just a guarantee from me that how many meets per month from my end, but not advancing money beforehand for the month. Whatever the sob stories they tell (some may actually be true), I try to help them with advice, but not advancing money.
A good example is a 20 year old I have been seeing for about 4 months now. She has a very stable and nice job at an accounting firm. I know that she works there for sure (I picked her from her work place couple of times and I saw her inside the office). She says she gets paid very well and do lot of overtime. She is single, no kids, no responsibilities, don't see any demons or addictions. But she is always in debt and complains that her bank account is in red all the time. First time I met her she asked for 300 to make back payment for car insurance. I said my allowance was 200. She accepted and apologized for asking allowance beforehand. We had absolutely great time, and I gave 200. The following week she texted me wanting to meet but she was on her period. She offered just hanging out, but wanted 200 to pay back a loan she got from mom. I told her that I don't prefer to do dates when a girl is on period and proposed meeting week after. She asked whether I could cashapp money, I said no. After a week I contacted her and she was happy to see me, again we had great time. 200 at the end of the date. I have had about 4 more dates with her last 4 months. Very difficult to schedule, gives some type of excuse and bail out at the last minute. But, boy when I catch her, it is always a blast. Very submissive, cute girl. Almost all options on table, multiple rounds, multiple hours. Very nice personality, gets along with me very well. She once in a while comes up with sob stories, but I never advance money or more than my typical allowance of 200. We go to dinners etc. But no extra money. By now she clearly understands how I operate. I have couple of other regulars, so I always have other options if she is not available.
Stay Safe.
Dr. S.
Originally Posted by DogBert77 [View Original Post]
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03-22-19 12:43 #16305
Posts: 33Richmond. Recommend an area?
What's a good location to stay in RVA area if in town for a few days and want to meet some POTS?
(Hotels downtown seem expensive -- looking for nice rooms and things to do nearby but better value than downtown Richmond).
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03-22-19 00:17 #16304
Posts: 131Originally Posted by Missingcr1 [View Original Post]
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03-21-19 20:04 #16303
Posts: 72LOL, it was closer to 3 x 1 with her.
I shoot for 3 x 1 too, though it was 2 x 1 when I started enjoying these girls.
These girls do make bad decisions, but since she always treated me right, when I told her I was not going to text her after she got married I was not going to text her. Plus, who has time for old married woman when your juggling college students, LOL.
Originally Posted by DogBert77 [View Original Post]
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03-21-19 12:08 #16302
Posts: 131Originally Posted by EvilTmp [View Original Post]Originally Posted by ErnestLl [View Original Post]
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03-21-19 12:05 #16301
Posts: 131Originally Posted by Missingcr1 [View Original Post]
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03-21-19 10:31 #16300
Posts: 880That's why they are here.
Originally Posted by EvilTmp [View Original Post]
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03-21-19 08:57 #16299
Posts: 293Originally Posted by Missingcr1 [View Original Post]
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03-21-19 08:23 #16298
Posts: 72Sob Stories
One of my current SB's, who I met in the platonic only section of CL, and I have been seeing for 4 years (since she was 19) has never given me a sob story. However, a few times when she has really wanted something, like money to go out with her gf's over the weekend, she has offered to meet for less (like 75) on short notice. Think of that as win-win.
Am talking with a hot 25 yo right now, who told me she is into girls and had not been with a guy since she was 18. Her FB account seems to verify that story. We had been talking for several days about when we were meeting, and she told me that she had gotten into an altercation with her ex gf when moving out. Claims she was attacked, but has been charged with assault because it was her ex's apartment. Said she needed 1500 in court fees by end of month. I did a quick check on MD case search and her story checked out. Her gf dropped charges, but le has not. I told her that was fine, that I would only help her with the amount we had already agreed to and we would just have to meet a lot between now and then. Are scheduled to meet tomorrow in public and see what happens. She definitely has the motivation to move forward.
One of the oddest requests for money was from a sb that I met when she was 18, and we met on and off for 3 years. We would meet a few times, she would disappear for months and then I would get a text from her wanting to meet. She had a rocking little petite bod and a pretty face, so I was cool with whatever. She sucked in bed at first, the classic cold fish, but just kept getting better and better. We had seen each other a few times over a 6 month period when she texted me to meet early one week, asking for a small amount. We met on a Wednesday, and she told then that she was getting married Friday and needed money for the justice of the peace and a few related costs. Wonder what her bf would hav thought if he knew how she got the funds. We had an incredible time that day, but never met again. I fought the urge to text her on the small chance I would mess things up in her life.
Originally Posted by Hal1957 [View Original Post]
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03-20-19 17:50 #16297
Posts: 476Sob Stories
My best SB didn't ask for anything. When I asked what she wanted, she said whatever I thought it was worth. Still no help. But she had a tire blowout, first steel belt radial I've ever seen worn all the way through the cords, but it was a wornout blowout. So the first date I put a couple of tires on her car, about $175, and she stayed with me 5 hours. GFE except for the cover. Second date, same experience and no request so I put a benji in her purse. She called later to thank. Third date, same experience, replaced the other 2 tires. That's the way it's been. Pay a doctor bill, catch the electric bill, same covered 4-6 hour experience, GFE except for the cover.
If you get a laundry list of needs, tackle them one at the time. Never pay more than you would pay for a single session, and only after service has been rendered.
Originally Posted by EvilTmp [View Original Post]
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03-20-19 12:19 #16296
Posts: 373Originally Posted by EvilTmp [View Original Post]
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03-20-19 12:13 #16295
Posts: 131Originally Posted by EvilTmp [View Original Post]
Yes, I actually do believe that a lot of these girls have pretty crazy lives, are irresponsible, and have a lot of bad shit happen to them. No, I don't let my belief or disbelief affect the amount or timing of what I give them. I give them a modest donation AFTER I have had sex with them. I don't mind whether they use the whole amount to get their nails done at the most expensive salon in town, or to bail their deadbeat dad out of jail, or whatever. If they need more, we need to schedule another visit, assuming their performance warrants it. I don't pay more per visit, and I don't pay in advance. If my donation can help them with their run of bad luck, great, everybody is happy. If their misfortunes are so monumental that incremental donations are of no use? Next!
My take on the whole thing is that at the end of the day, of course it's a financial transaction. If you met the same girl behind the counter of your local coffee shop, are you going to give her $400 for a $4 latte because her car got towed that morning? I do everything I can not to rub their noses in the financial realities, in the hope and expectation that they will provide an experience that doesn't feel transactional, but none of that changes how much or when they get paid.
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03-20-19 11:39 #16294
Posts: 293Sob stories
Alright, let's talk about sob stories. Do any of you dumb fucks believe any the sob stories you're served? Surely some must otherwise why would they keep trying?
So I met a girl for a drink a few weeks ago and touched base yesterday just to chat. Lo and behold she launches in this long winded fake story about a string of supposed bad luck in her life and family blah blah blah my dad is in jail blah blah blah and her car broke down blah blah. The story seemed made up and without digging in I could tell it had plenty of holes. A few things didn't add up and I got the feeling she was fishing for a whale of a white-knight (you know, a moron with money). She claims all this happened over a few months. I met her a couple of weeks ago and none of this was mentioned. Wished her luck and moved on.
Now do any of you guys fall for this shit? The broken cars, the thefts, the hospital bills, etc.
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03-19-19 08:06 #16293
Posts: 72Thanks Yeong, Will try Again
I have not tried the card for SA since early last year when it was rejected multiple times. Struck out using it for Secret Benefits last week and assumed it would still be the case with SA. Will get a new OneVanilla card and try it this week.
Your right Lucky, WYP can be frustrating. WYP does not have the selection, but at least you don't have the clock running like you do with a one month membership at SA. I typically get 450 credits for $150. The trick is to try to offer like $49 for the first date, as that is only 10 credits. If you could do that you would get to talk to 45 girls. If you have to work up from there go to $99, as that is only 15 credits. Once you start talking with the young lady then you can agree to what type of date you both want and how much you are really going to help, which for me always starts at $$ and might move up for someone really special. Some of the girls just don't get it and will only agree to a date offer of like $$ to $$$ which significantly increases the number of credits you are spending. Anyone can feel free to pm if you have any questions.
I have met up for fun with well over a dozen women from WYP, including many that started off platonic only, just takes a lot of patience and luck, and keeping as many hooks in the water as you can. If you don't have the time it could get quickly frustrating.
Forgot to mention, WYP has actually been pretty good about refunding credits, doing it at least 10 times over the last two years. If I start messaging a girl and she states that she wants the money sent in advance or is a pic/video girl only and doesn't meet, I will report her to WYP (just a matter of flagging her on her profile and in your comments to WYP state that you made her a legitimate offer and she had no intention of actually meeting, and you would like your credits back). As long as the whole conversation is on WYP the majority of the time they will refund your credits. More of a pain if you have switched over to texting. They refunded credits twice to me in last two weeks, which will now allow me to talk to two more girls...
Originally Posted by YeongIl [View Original Post]
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03-18-19 18:07 #16292
Posts: 779Originally Posted by YeongIl [View Original Post]
Could perhaps one type of card of theirs work and not others and hence different experience of different folks?
Too darn confusing for a simple thing as making payment.