Rants and Stupid shit in Orange County

[Lift Her Up]

Well how would we feel doing this same job? We all love a good session. So what if MMS said that we could get a job. Every Asian woman who came in, we had to flirt with her, and get turned on, and give her an orgasm. Most assuredly, these customers are not going to be 25 year old super models. They are more like 50 year old plain janes packing a dozen or two extra pounds. Half a dozen of them come in a day. And if we are not nice and flirty with them, they might give a $20 tip or even a dine-and-dash. How much do you think we would enjoy that sex? And now imagine doing it for years. Maybe never having any woman we were actually attracted to. And feeling guilty that we are selling our bodies rather than doing honorable work. How much job satisfaction would we have?

I knew a woman who dated a gynecologist. A guy who inspects pussies all day long. Well he had a hard time getting aroused. In his particular case, he liked slapping this girl across the face during sex, and probably some more serious S&M. She didn't find out, because she called me to pick her up and help her get out of that situation.

Very very well said.

Lift Her Up.

[Lift Her Up]

I lived in OC for a bit when I was a teenager and still have friends there, so I check in on this board and post reviews about my experiences when I am there. But I'm curious about some history in the area. For the older mongers, how did you guys find out about spots in OC before this board existed and how did you know what to pay?

I used the now-gone weekly newspaper, The Los Angeles Free Press. I paid what they seemed to ask, and if it was too much, I didn't get the extras. In those days, HJ. 15, so when they'd ask. 25 I'd just decline.

Lift Her Up.

[DWaits]

I lived in OC for a bit when I was a teenager and still have friends there, so I check in on this board and post reviews about my experiences when I am there. But I'm curious about some history in the area. For the older mongers, how did you guys find out about spots in OC before this board existed and how did you know what to pay?

[DarkRoomDaddy]

I've read various articles where sex workers were interviewed. Some of them, most notably the higher end escorts, do enjoy the sex. Some will even claim that they actually orgasm during sessions. Others are just cum buckets. It's hard to imagine an AMP girl who spreads her legs 10 times a day actually enjoying it, and the majority probably don't. But on the flip side I could see a $300/ hour escort who only sees a handful of guys per week enjoying at least some of the sex. The spectrum is pretty broad.

Well how would we feel doing this same job? We all love a good session. So what if MMS said that we could get a job. Every Asian woman who came in, we had to flirt with her, and get turned on, and give her an orgasm. Most assuredly, these customers are not going to be 25 year old super models. They are more like 50 year old plain janes packing a dozen or two extra pounds. Half a dozen of them come in a day. And if we are not nice and flirty with them, they might give a $20 tip or even a dine-and-dash. How much do you think we would enjoy that sex? And now imagine doing it for years. Maybe never having any woman we were actually attracted to. And feeling guilty that we are selling our bodies rather than doing honorable work. How much job satisfaction would we have?

I knew a woman who dated a gynecologist. A guy who inspects pussies all day long. Well he had a hard time getting aroused. In his particular case, he liked slapping this girl across the face during sex, and probably some more serious S&M. She didn't find out, because she called me to pick her up and help her get out of that situation.

[BSouthgate]

Do the hookers sometimes really enjoy sex? This has been discussed in a few points recently in the MP thread.

My contribution to the discussion is to suggest two books. The first is Martha Stein, Lovers friends slaves, the nine male sexual types and their psycho-sexual transactions with call girls. Stein says she observed about 3,000 sex acts, perhaps exceeding Masters and Johnson's record. The second is Alexa Albert, Brothel, the Mustant Ranch and its women.

I put a lot of credence in women who have spend a whole lot of time with sex workers, talking with them.

Lift Her Up.

Thanks for sharing.

I am a retired scientist and have used the scientific method in all aspects of life. This includes sex with prostitutes. Prostitution is a subject that should be approached objectively and without bias. Unfortunately, so many "scholarly" reports on this subject are written through a highly biased lens and with a biased agenda. The lens is that female prostitutes are victims of evil men, and the agenda is to eliminate prostitution somehow.

Encyclopedia Britannica: Prostitution is the practice of engaging in indiscriminate sexual activity with someone who is not a spouse or a friend in exchange for immediate payment in money or other valuables. Prostitutes may be female or male, and prostitution may entail heterosexual or homosexual activity, but historically, most prostitutes have been women, and most clients are men.

Prostitution is not purchasing women or their bodies or the use of their bodies. It is the exchange of money for sexual services. When I pay for a haircut, I am not buying the barber's hands. When I pay for a hand job, I am not buying the masseuse's hands. I am paying them for their skill and service.

Do hookers enjoy sex with clients? From my experience, sometimes yes and sometimes no. Probably more yes than no. But, as a scientist, I go to the data.

There are many carefully done survey research studies showing that women in all parts of the world engage in prostitution because it is both lucrative and pleasurable work. For example:

https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/...nxYFknDvYOzRKo

https://www.cogitatiopress.com/socia...view/2644/1517

https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full...23Rt8pXdpnrhiw

These reports confirm that hookers report considerable enjoyment from their work. One study elaborated on the kind of sex that Chinese street girls performed with their customers. The girls rated cunnilingus and vaginal sex with clients as almost always enjoyable and fellatio as sometimes enjoyable.

Here is a video of a Chinese street pro and her customer enjoying sex in a run-down brothel room.

https://www.homepornking.com/video/6...0/777520/?th=1

Larry Horse, a user of the porn tube site Xh. Ter, used a novel research approach to study this issue. Horse asked X. Ter users to view videos showing hookers' faces while they had sex with clients (Group 1) and the faces of wives having sex with their husbands (Group 2). Horse did not tell the users which women were in either group. The 118 viewers answered the question: "Is she enjoying or is she faking enjoyment?" The viewers did not know which faces represented hookers and which represented wives.

Furthermore, according to Horse, most of the wives and hookers were unaware of being imaged during their sexual experiences, so they were not performing for the camera like pornstars.

The results of this excellent research study showed that prostitutes do generally enjoy sex with their clients and that their enjoyment is not less than that of wives with their husbands. I urge you all to read the entire study report here:

https://xhamster.com/users/larryhorse

It is interesting to view one of the hooker videos that Larry Horse used for this epic study:

https://motherless.com/A66DE5E

And to view one of the wife videos:

https://xhamster.com/videos/chinese-...action-1218557

Judge for yourselves which woman is enjoying her sexual experience more, the hooker or the wife.

Do clients enjoy that the hookers are enjoying? Or why should we, who are buying the service, care about the enjoyment of the seller?

Based on conversations with dozens of these women and reading the reports in this and other fora, I am sure most punters want their partners to enjoy. If not, there would not be so much DATY. What is the point of going down on a potentially stinky part of a woman's body if not to make her convulse in orgasmic joy?

There is a potential evolutionary reason for our wanting our hooker partners to enjoy their encounters with us. In humans, sex has been shown to have a bonding as well as a reproductive function. See, for example, the excellent book by Christopher Ryan:

https://www.amazon.com/Sex-Dawn-Stra.../dp/B007679QTG

This book is free on Kindle. When we fuck, even with a hooker, we instinctively want to create a lasting bond with our partner.

Thank you for reading this. I would love to get more input from my brothers.

[Mel]

I've read various articles where sex workers were interviewed. Some of them, most notably the higher end escorts, do enjoy the sex. Some will even claim that they actually orgasm during sessions. Others are just cum buckets. It's hard to imagine an AMP girl who spreads her legs 10 times a day actually enjoying it, and the majority probably don't. But on the flip side I could see a $300/ hour escort who only sees a handful of guys per week enjoying at least some of the sex. The spectrum is pretty broad.

I haven't seen her in about 10-12 years now, but VietKim certainly liked to have sex. I asked her if she had orgasms occasionally, and she said she did. Her eyes would roll back into her head, and if she was faking it, she should win an Oscar.

[Grimmy23]

Do the hookers sometimes really enjoy sex? This has been discussed in a few points recently in the MP thread.

My contribution to the discussion is to suggest two books. The first is Martha Stein, Lovers friends slaves, the nine male sexual types and their psycho-sexual transactions with call girls. Stein says she observed about 3,000 sex acts, perhaps exceeding Masters and Johnson's record. The second is Alexa Albert, Brothel, the Mustant Ranch and its women.

I put a lot of credence in women who have spend a whole lot of time with sex workers, talking with them.

Lift Her Up.

I've read various articles where sex workers were interviewed. Some of them, most notably the higher end escorts, do enjoy the sex. Some will even claim that they actually orgasm during sessions. Others are just cum buckets. It's hard to imagine an AMP girl who spreads her legs 10 times a day actually enjoying it, and the majority probably don't. But on the flip side I could see a $300/ hour escort who only sees a handful of guys per week enjoying at least some of the sex. The spectrum is pretty broad.

[FarFarAway]

Do the hookers sometimes really enjoy sex? This has been discussed in a few points recently in the MP thread.

My contribution to the discussion is to suggest two books. The first is Martha Stein, Lovers friends slaves, the nine male sexual types and their psycho-sexual transactions with call girls. Stein says she observed about 3,000 sex acts, perhaps exceeding Masters and Johnson's record. The second is Alexa Albert, Brothel, the Mustant Ranch and its women.

I put a lot of credence in women who have spend a whole lot of time with sex workers, talking with them.

Lift Her Up.

Long ago, an ex-hooker wrote a book, The Happy Hooker, and became a sex columnist in Penthouse. Xaviera Hollander. Consult her writings.

[Lift Her Up]

Do the hookers sometimes really enjoy sex? This has been discussed in a few points recently in the MP thread.

My contribution to the discussion is to suggest two books. The first is Martha Stein, Lovers friends slaves, the nine male sexual types and their psycho-sexual transactions with call girls. Stein says she observed about 3,000 sex acts, perhaps exceeding Masters and Johnson's record. The second is Alexa Albert, Brothel, the Mustant Ranch and its women.

I put a lot of credence in women who have spend a whole lot of time with sex workers, talking with them.

Lift Her Up.

[Lift Her Up]

This is in response to post 36576 In the MP thread by HoDough, the gonorrhea scare. This is called NGU, non-gonococcal urethritis. It's any infection in the urinary tract that is not the clap.

Back in 1981 a civvy I was seeing for sex told me she had NGU and she might have gotten it from me, or one of the other two guys she was seeing. I said well I don't think but maybe so I'll get myself checked. I didn't have it. But I did gain status with her because the other two guys swore up and down that it couldn't possibly have been them, I was the only one to fess up that there was a bit of a chance it was me. Hahaha.

Pardon me for tooting my own horn but I've never told this story before and this is the only forum I might do that in.

Lift Her Up.

[BSouthgate]

I went back. My package is sore.

Went into her new hotel room ready to check behind the bed, but the gap was empty this time. Went to the bathroom, and when I saw the shower curtain drawn, I had a feeling that the bathtub was the hider's new spot.

I always like to wash up a bit even though I had just showered, so I pulled the curtain back to wet a towel. Yep, she's there again. Got a better look this time and I think she's actually somewhere in her late 30's. Wearing obvious hooker attire.

The lady first told me (through Google Translate) "sorry, we are sharing a room due to cost," and later elaborated that it was her friend from Spain on vacation. That part seemed like a weird fib-- maybe she thought it would make me more comfortable. She was pretty obviously a coworker sharing a room, but whatever.

I was totally fine with her sequestered in the bathtub-- knowing now that the mystery woman was indeed not her daughter, waiting for her mom to finish getting pounded. Something about the odd situation made it hotter for me so as I said, I left extra sore. I had a hard time walking down the stairs. I guess the lesson is to keep an open mind?

I would insist that the girl in the tub join the fun. I would offer either no additional tip or only a small one, say 40. Otherwise, I would walk away. I bet that they would accept this deal. Was your target lady a SW or an escort?

[Plasma Spray]

Time for a threesome. ?

[James D 2004]

Lend me some perspective guys.

Seen this woman several times. Last time I went, I heard some music playing from the side of the bed, in the gap between the bed and wall. I peeked over and saw another woman, younger-- maybe 20-22-- watching videos on her phone, laying on the ground.

Seems like her coworker / daughter / whoever didn't want to wait outside so she just hid herself poorly.

At the time I was weirded out but kind of drunk, so I rolled with it. Though the second nut was a little difficult to bust.

That said, there's a reason I saw this woman as many times as I did and honestly, I want to go back.

After that awkward experience I swore I wouldn't return but. You know how it is.

My question for you all is, would this be a deal breaker? Would I be a sucker for going back, or is it no big deal? I've had a woman's friend wait in the bathroom before but on the ground by the side of the bed was a new experience.

What's the harm? What you don't like about it? This is unique but wanting to stay in the bathroom with or without permission is much more common. I always turn them down. Escorts never do that. SW much more often when they are traveling. But it's a security risk as the other may go through your belongings or open the door for someone else.

It's safer working and traveling in pairs or more. But it's a hassle sharing a room doing it all day, finding another place to sit for an hour. Depending on time and place, it may not be safe to hang out alone.

It's a kind of disrespect. But in a safe hotel and you know they are not plotting something, I'm fine with it.

[Rgk1015]

I went back. My package is sore.

Went into her new hotel room ready to check behind the bed, but the gap was empty this time. Went to the bathroom, and when I saw the shower curtain drawn, I had a feeling that the bathtub was the hider's new spot.

I always like to wash up a bit even though I had just showered, so I pulled the curtain back to wet a towel. Yep, she's there again. Got a better look this time and I think she's actually somewhere in her late 30's. Wearing obvious hooker attire.

The lady first told me (through Google Translate) "sorry, we are sharing a room due to cost," and later elaborated that it was her friend from Spain on vacation. That part seemed like a weird fib-- maybe she thought it would make me more comfortable. She was pretty obviously a coworker sharing a room, but whatever.

I was totally fine with her sequestered in the bathtub-- knowing now that the mystery woman was indeed not her daughter, waiting for her mom to finish getting pounded. Something about the odd situation made it hotter for me so as I said, I left extra sore. I had a hard time walking down the stairs. I guess the lesson is to keep an open mind?

[Taws6]

Seen this woman several times. Last time I went, I heard some music playing from the side of the bed, in the gap between the bed and wall. I peeked over and saw another woman, younger-- maybe 20-22-- watching videos on her phone, laying on the ground.

Who is this? Booker? Some of us might want to see. Might be an unaddressed kink!