Massage Parlor Reports

**Richbal** · 05-17-24 13:51

Originally Posted by ForestGreen213 [View Original Post]

One word, Disney. Years ago.........

Years ago we had the Bouy Boat at Port Canaveral which went offshore and offered gambling on the upper decks and ladies below deck. Then a Disney Cruise Ship made Port Canaveral home port and in a nanosecond or less the Bouy Boat was gone forever from Port Canaveral.

Also I knew an attorney who worked for Disney in their legal department. She was sent to various Orlando Strip Clubs to observe and personally warn them about their strippers wearing Disney Costumes, they would be facing serious lawsuits from Disney. We had some laughs about some of the costumes she saw.

**ForestGreen213** · 05-16-24 15:24

Originally Posted by BeachBum15 [View Original Post]

Read the Bill and the various summaries and have to say. Bit confused with the part where the 'clients' must be identified with all their PI. I really don't disagree with record keeping for Employees and Owners as applicable or even with the 'dress code' or the silly rules on windows and doors and I can sort of see how that might. Just might deter the exploitation of some workers. But I DON'T see how recording a client's personal information. Including phone number and home address!! That isn't going to do squat to deter exploitation. But it will force many of these places to close down due to just a lack of business. And THAT makes me wonder. WHO really is behind this. Cause I don't think it has anything to do with LE. But perhaps its another 'profession' that has seen a cut into their 'business profits'. This Bill needs to be challenged in the Courts and at a minimum. That recording of 'client' information needs to be removed. That right there will be the reason many shops will choose to just close as business dries up. Even if they are compliant in all the others. Sort of. Just my thoughts.

One word, Disney. Years ago you could have a great time at Orlando gentleman's clubs until Disney used their power to influence county and city governments to change the rules. No touching, 3 foot rules, and pasties killed the business in Orlando and the traffic moved to Tampa and Brevard. Disney hates when money leaves the parks and AMPs must have gotten on their radar. Think about how much Disney park and cruise money they think they are missing from men going to AMPs in Miami, Brevard, Orlando, and Tampa?

**RGar455** · 05-16-24 11:07

Originally Posted by BeachBum15 [View Original Post]

Read the Bill and the various summaries and have to say. Bit confused with the part where the 'clients' must be identified with all their PI. I really don't disagree with record keeping for Employees and Owners as applicable or even with the 'dress code' or the silly rules on windows and doors and I can sort of see how that might. Just might deter the exploitation of some workers. But I DON'T see how recording a client's personal information. Including phone number and home address!! That isn't going to do squat to deter exploitation. But it will force many of these places to close down due to just a lack of business. And THAT makes me wonder. WHO really is behind this. Cause I don't think it has anything to do with LE. But perhaps its another 'profession' that has seen a cut into their 'business profits'. This Bill needs to be challenged in the Courts and at a minimum. That recording of 'client' information needs to be removed. That right there will be the reason many shops will choose to just close as business dries up. Even if they are compliant in all the others. Sort of. Just my thoughts.

Couldn't "clients" just fill out fake address info and names? Nobody is really there to prove the customer had their I'd verified. I imagine these places can just collect fake info to make it appear legit.

**BeachBum15** · 05-16-24 10:25

Originally Posted by JayJayTwo [View Original Post]

Here's a site that put together a nice summary: https://fcachiro.org/blogpost/211769...nto-Compliance.

And here's the full text of HB 197: https://www.flsenate.gov/Session/Bil...illText/er/PDF.

In the full text document, check out page 12, line 289, paragraph f.

Read the Bill and the various summaries and have to say. Bit confused with the part where the 'clients' must be identified with all their PI. I really don't disagree with record keeping for Employees and Owners as applicable or even with the 'dress code' or the silly rules on windows and doors and I can sort of see how that might. Just might deter the exploitation of some workers. But I DON'T see how recording a client's personal information. Including phone number and home address!! That isn't going to do squat to deter exploitation. But it will force many of these places to close down due to just a lack of business. And THAT makes me wonder. WHO really is behind this. Cause I don't think it has anything to do with LE. But perhaps its another 'profession' that has seen a cut into their 'business profits'. This Bill needs to be challenged in the Courts and at a minimum. That recording of 'client' information needs to be removed. That right there will be the reason many shops will choose to just close as business dries up. Even if they are compliant in all the others. Sort of. Just my thoughts.

**StymieChula** · 05-16-24 10:24

Originally Posted by JayJayTwo [View Original Post]

Here's a site that put together a nice summary: https://fcachiro.org/blogpost/211769...nto-Compliance.

And here's the full text of HB 197: https://www.flsenate.gov/Session/Bil...illText/er/PDF.

In the full text document, check out page 12, line 289, paragraph f.

I always wanted a hair cut with a hand shake.

Maybe Ill start getting my nails done get my drift.

They should leave things alone cause there going to open up a bunch of other business to doing things that massage parlors took care of.

Its not like all of the massage shops gave happy endings just like 9 out of 10.

**MarkGew** · 05-16-24 08:29

Originally Posted by ForestGreen213 [View Original Post]

The establishment will be required to "RECORD" in English or spanish and "VERIFY" the "CLIENTS" name address and phone number before services can be rendered. The only way anyone can verify your name and address is with state issued I'd. No idea how they would verify your phone number. Either way things are going to get rough for these businesses pretty fast because I don't see anyone giving up their Id.

Must be in English or Spanish?? What about our fine outstanding Asian American friends and citizens! Our elected officials are very very prejudiced bigots!!

**HardHat69** · 05-15-24 12:05

Originally Posted by JayJayTwo [View Original Post]

Here's a site that put together a nice summary: https://fcachiro.org/blogpost/211769...nto-Compliance.

And here's the full text of HB 197: https://www.flsenate.gov/Session/Bil...illText/er/PDF.

In the full text document, check out page 12, line 289, paragraph f.

This is unfortunate news. Although my best AMP experience was in Orlando, a local visit did meet the need on occasion. Looks like it all will be off the table statewide.

**Wawa Man** · 05-14-24 11:06

This may be their way to go after who they consider "The Problem Shops. (like the old Milk in O Town). There are parts of the new bill that allows them to shut down immediately establishments that cater more to sexual activities (the horror. LOL) than massage. This allows them to shut them down without having to wait for guilty verdicts thru the court system. Just my wishful 2 cents opinion.

**Wawa Man** · 05-14-24 10:58

Originally Posted by RGar455 [View Original Post]

I'll be surprised if this law scares away that many parlors. They're pretty crafty and probably anticipate laws like these. The volume of AMPs in this state is pretty insurmountable and I don't see the state having the time and competency to shut them all down or enforce this as strictly as we fear.

I know some places like Tampa have "aromatherapy shops" so they may change names or nature of services offered if it gets to be a problem.

I imagine many of the places will not ask for I'd if they know you are a regular. But if someone new walks in they may have you fill in the form until they get to know you better. IDK.

**ForestGreen213** · 05-14-24 02:45

The establishment will be required to "RECORD" in English or spanish and "VERIFY" the "CLIENTS" name address and phone number before services can be rendered. The only way anyone can verify your name and address is with state issued I'd. No idea how they would verify your phone number. Either way things are going to get rough for these businesses pretty fast because I don't see anyone giving up their Id.

**Edgewater94** · 05-13-24 16:17

Originally Posted by Cdmail32 [View Original Post]

Change is going to come.

It was fun while it lasted.

**RGar455** · 05-13-24 16:07

Originally Posted by WawaMan [View Original Post]

It will be interesting to see how the Asian (and American) parlors skirt around the new regulations. I wonder how many will just pack up and move out of state.

I'll be surprised if this law scares away that many parlors. They're pretty crafty and probably anticipate laws like these. The volume of AMPs in this state is pretty insurmountable and I don't see the state having the time and competency to shut them all down or enforce this as strictly as we fear.

I know some places like Tampa have "aromatherapy shops" so they may change names or nature of services offered if it gets to be a problem.

**Cdmail32** · 05-13-24 14:35

Change is going to come.

Originally Posted by JayJayTwo [View Original Post]

Here's a site that put together a nice summary: https://fcachiro.org/blogpost/211769...nto-Compliance.

And here's the full text of HB 197: https://www.flsenate.gov/Session/Bil...illText/er/PDF.

In the full text document, check out page 12, line 289, paragraph f.

**JayJayTwo** · 05-13-24 14:22

Originally Posted by Cdmail32 [View Original Post]

I did a quick google search and read thru like 5 versions of the bill (which were all pretty much the same) and none of them say anything about ID or address or visitors. Can you provide the link of where you saw what you posted below? I found this statement in all of the documents. 'requires DOH investigators to request government identification from all employees while in massage establishment'.

Here's a site that put together a nice summary: https://fcachiro.org/blogpost/211769...nto-Compliance.

And here's the full text of HB 197: https://www.flsenate.gov/Session/Bil...illText/er/PDF.

In the full text document, check out page 12, line 289, paragraph f.

**Cdmail32** · 05-13-24 13:35

I did a quick google search and read thru like 5 versions of the bill (which were all pretty much the same) and none of them say anything about ID or address or visitors. Can you provide the link of where you saw what you posted below? I found this statement in all of the documents. 'requires DOH investigators to request government identification from all employees while in massage establishment'.

Originally Posted by WawaMan [View Original Post]

Last week Florida signed into effect 2024 HB 197 that goes into effect July 1, 2024. This is a bill designed to help stop Human Trafficking. It was written to change the way Massage parlors operate. It's biggest take-aways are that all clients (mongers too!) must now fill out a form giving their legal name, address, phone umber, etc. (much like we do going to the doctors office, each time we visit. Also they are required to verify from a government approved I'd. (I do not know if they will be scanned in as they do at a doctors office. (I hope not).

They also say the girls cannot wear see-thru clothes. (I wish I knew of places where this occurs now! They say it is a problem?

It will be interesting to see how the Asian (and American) parlors skirt around the new regulations. I wonder how many will just pack up and move out of state.

I hope some lawyers will start a class action suit to stop this, as many places are not making a lot of money now due to the bad economy. (Just my thoughts).