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**Tiger Guy X** · 01-31-24 02:08

I'm sure this will be a big story the next few days unless something bigger occurs. Hopefully no one in this group were caught up in the stings. https://abc7.com/california-human-tr...s-la/14372756/.

**Alasqano** · 01-05-24 20:32

YouTube -- Stop The Raids: Sex Workers Protest Hydee Feldstein Soto's Criminalization.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=53OSrLFhMZA

**FreeWally** · 11-09-23 22:51

Originally Posted by OcAmper [View Original Post]

The DOJ has at least one text message intended for a customer. Replying to that message that you want an appointment, set the time and options, all you need to do is get to the front door of the apartment, and you can be arrested.

If both you and LE are at that point, of course they will see if you will do an act of furtherance, but that is only to help solidify their case and isn't completely necessary for a conviction.

I disagree. I have not gotten a text of options in years. They have no case and I have seen much stronger cases dropped. I visit the same girls regularly, the moment it is not them behind the door I say I'm at the wrong house. They cannot even ask me my ID and I will just leave. It's obvious from the door opening if it's the girl, without even seeing the girl. I have a perfectly legal explanation for why I am there, consistent with all my communications. Haven't had a problem in 20 years.

With the girls I'm seeing right now, I've seen her so much I have her on LINE anyways and we check up on each other before meeting. Would be pretty obvious before I even got to the door. Another girl from long ago, I have her on IG now and she quit her agency so I just see her in person. Sugaring is pretty much the very bottom of their priority.

With HX the moment I or any other customer is out, I put a strike on their safety. And that's it, their cover is blown. In my 12 years with the two agencies, they have not had one single strike or problem. If I or another see a strike, it's pretty quick before others will find out why (this has happened in several non-LE situations, with other independent girls). As I've always said, there is always some risk. Compared to alternatives, it's extremely low. The statistics I've cited show that.

**Oc Amper** · 11-09-23 21:05

Originally Posted by ItsNotNothing2 [View Original Post]

There's no doubt they Know about korgs. The question is if they are going to clean house across the states. Like another monger said, this wasn't city police, this was the homeland security.

They surely know about nearly all of them. The K-Orgs aren't hiding. Sometimes they do cutsie websites, photo modeling, or business advisors. No one is fooled.

This current case, since they are looking into the customers, its more likely this is a corruption case. That is what they are ultimately looking for. From the affidavit, surely isn't spelled out that they found any such corruption or extortion / black mail.

I think it is a good thing, they are going down the rabbit hole. We really should know, if military leaders or military with clearances, if they had been black mailed / extorted or any other thing.

Will they try to clean house across the states? Who knows. At first, I thought this is the tip of that iceberg, but now believing it is simply an isolated yet large case. It involves prostitution, but as said the focus is on other things that are of National Interest.

**Oc Amper** · 11-09-23 20:59

Originally Posted by PogeyBait [View Original Post]

Are parlors or agencies more likely to busts? I feel like the answer is parlors and that's why I've been staying away from them as of late but you really don't know. I remember reading up somewhere that the closer we get to state elections, the more likely parlor busts happen. I can see how the agencies are harder to crack since they're not going after the women, they're getting people at the top.

Not sure there is a good way of comparing the two. Elections surely seem to be a time when enforcement seems to happen more. Simply low hanging fruit.

In either case, parlor or AAMP's, we have establishments operating for years and not uncommon decades. Both cases, they don't usually go after the women. Frequently they are treated as victims.

Kind of seems like, they don't take down the little players, unless they are a community nuisance. Those that are community nuisances, get eliminated fairly quickly. The others, seem to run for an extended time. Not sure if it really takes that long to investigate, probably does to some extent, but probably they are looking at seizure laws and grab the profits to fund more enforement, or pay for the time already spent on the case.

**Oc Amper** · 11-09-23 20:52

Originally Posted by FreeWally [View Original Post]

They are not AMPs, they are Korean incall by appointment. You can read the detailed summary and affidavit here from the original source: https://www.justice.gov/usao-ma/pr/t...rothel-network.

The only connection to California is the lady leasing the apartments was arrested in Torrance.

The reason why K-orgs work is you can touch the girl before even paying, and I would love to hear a policewoman dress up as a sexy kgirl half-naked but with a wiretap, in a luxury apartment complex, as a train of guys try to touch and kiss her before speaking a word or giving money.

The Torrance connection, was a man, that was the leasing partner for the woman that ran seemingly ran the agency. He would lease the apartments, using his or other stolen identities and hand them over to her for the business.

If LE has the electronic communications, in California, and my opinion, it doesn't matter if one touches the lady, pays her 1st, pays her going out the door. We setup a date, the length of service, might also throw in some add-ins like BB or what ever. Right there, they got you.

You'd have a very hard time explaining to anyone, looking at the advertisement that one was there just to talk or play tiddly winks.

The DOJ has at least one text message intended for a customer. Replying to that message that you want an appointment, set the time and options, all you need to do is get to the front door of the apartment, and you can be arrested.

If both you and LE are at that point, of course they will see if you will do an act of furtherance, but that is only to help solidify their case and isn't completely necessary for a conviction.

**FreeWally** · 11-09-23 15:22

Originally Posted by BillyIsTheOne [View Original Post]

Looks like they busted up some Boston AAMPS that had a connection to Los Angeles. https://www.cnbc.com/2023/11/08/high...more-feds.html.

They are not AMPs, they are Korean incall by appointment. You can read the detailed summary and affidavit here from the original source: https://www.justice.gov/usao-ma/pr/t...rothel-network.

The only connection to California is the lady leasing the apartments was arrested in Torrance. In the long run it is an elevated risk, but it is also a drop in the bucket. For context in the USA with a population of 332 million, about 17 million men have paid for sex. There are 70,000 arrests for prostitution a year, only 40% of which are men (the other generally being the workers), which is. 2% of that pool. 99% of that is from stings. We're talking 3 high profile arrests here versus those numbers. It is a drop in the bucket.

In past cases like when they busted the Seattle ring, they looked for low hanging fruit, direct connections. I've read a lot of affidavits in the past and it is much easier to start with a solid new lead than to try to connect one agency to a completely separate one. It's just a lot less work considering their goal is to get achievements, they already know they will never end it. They haven't even slowed it down.

There are Latin American rings doing the same thing (and much worse), Russian orgs, Thai orgs, etc.. All unrelated to the other. The "high end" side is a lot more work to investigate than the opposite end, where they can set up a van and make 10 or 20 arrests. Or use online and rent a house. The reason why K-orgs work is you can touch the girl before even paying, and I would love to hear a policewoman dress up as a sexy kgirl half-naked but with a wiretap, in a luxury apartment complex, as a train of guys try to touch and kiss her before speaking a word or giving money. Apart from being ridiculous, you'd get Karens complaining to the police chief over the nuisance of bringing stings into "their" turf.

This all will certainly continue of course and there is always risk, but on the other hand AMPs and incall has exploded in the last 10 years. Streetwalkers are now common again. Maybe in 20,50 years they will legalize in a few more states.

For those who want virtually no risk sex and aren't in a relationship, Asia is your best bet. It is 100% legal in Thailand and no different than visiting a strip club, arguably safer.

**ItsNotNothing2** · 11-09-23 09:07

Originally Posted by BillyIsTheOne [View Original Post]

Looks like they busted up some Boston AAMPS that had a connection to Los Angeles. https://www.cnbc.com/2023/11/08/high...more-feds.html.

There's no doubt they Know about korgs. The question is if they are going to clean house across the states. Like another monger said, this wasn't city police, this was the homeland security.

**BillyIsTheOne** · 11-08-23 18:47

Looks like they busted up some Boston AAMPS that had a connection to Los Angeles. https://www.cnbc.com/2023/11/08/high...more-feds.html.

**PogeyBait** · 11-08-23 09:32

Are parlors or agencies more likely to busts? I feel like the answer is parlors and that's why I've been staying away from them as of late but you really don't know. I remember reading up somewhere that the closer we get to state elections, the more likely parlor busts happen. I can see how the agencies are harder to crack since they're not going after the women, they're getting people at the top.

**PainGod2032** · 11-07-23 19:08

Originally Posted by ParamAhmad [View Original Post]

Be warned your maseusse in LA, Fresno, or really anywhere may be an undercover police officer waiting to arrest you for saying the wrong words, namely, offering or agreeing to pay money for sexual conduct, which includes hand jobs as well as oral sex and intercourse. Prostitution is a CRIME OF WORDS, so don't say the words. Avoid masseuses who negotiate or quote a price for any type of sexual contact. Hand gestures count the same as spoken or written words. Sex between consenting adults is legal, including in a massage parlor UNLESS there is an offer or agreement to pay money for same.

Police take over massage business and arrest customers.

https://abc30.com/prostitution-fresn...rrest/5105834/

**Param Ahmad** · 11-06-23 04:22

Be warned your maseusse in LA, Fresno, or really anywhere may be an undercover police officer waiting to arrest you for saying the wrong words, namely, offering or agreeing to pay money for sexual conduct, which includes hand jobs as well as oral sex and intercourse. Prostitution is a CRIME OF WORDS, so don't say the words. Avoid masseuses who negotiate or quote a price for any type of sexual contact. Hand gestures count the same as spoken or written words. Sex between consenting adults is legal, including in a massage parlor UNLESS there is an offer or agreement to pay money for same.

Police take over massage business and arrest customers.

https://abc30.com/prostitution-fresn...rrest/5105834/

**HollywoodGuy** · 10-23-23 22:18

Originally Posted by ItsNotNothing2 [View Original Post]

I wonder how many of these coppers are actually customers when not in uniform. They really should just decriminalize it so that it can be safer for providers and customers alike. So dumb.

One of my x's had a $$$ date with a motorcycle cop. He arrived in uniform and on his bike.

**Ezinho** · 10-23-23 21:01

https://nypost.com/2023/10/23/inside...ll-sex-for-40/

"You go by the alleys and you see a guy in the middle of the alley and a woman performing [fellatio]. And a mom and her kids have to pass by that. Its ridiculous, all in the open broad daylight. God only knows the impact it has on those kids who have to see this.

Los Angeles Police Department sources who work the area told The Post that prostitutes will perform sex acts for as little as $40 and many are selling their bodies for $160 or less at a time.

**ItsNotNothing2** · 10-21-23 01:36

Originally Posted by AceMcNasty [View Original Post]

If the above vehicle is no longer registered in your name, or if this notice was sent in error, please disregard it.

You married dudes hopefully are not driving a car registered in your wife's name or she will be getting this surprise letter from Chief Moore LOL.

Specifically targeting the hot spot of Fig and 73rd. To protect and to serve.

You got served!

I wonder how many of these coppers are actually customers when not in uniform. They really should just decriminalize it so that it can be safer for providers and customers alike. So dumb.