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Elizabeth / Liza
Looking for Elizabeth! Anyone have contact info! Can message me! Used to work Russian place 83st!
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Not to mention that most of these new girls only do outcalls and you have to pay for the Uber both ways. Crazy.
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Price vs product
Yeah I'm surprised even at the mention on anyone doing 200. I get 160 and I'm out. The craziness of the lack luster service given for the high ask is sickening. Every single thing mentioned is exactly what I've been saying to myself over these past few weeks. Absolutely right, it's no longer fun Birkin prices for coach bags just doesn't work. The sooner these girls understand that the faster they can get back to making more money and us to the fun.
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Sierra Singh indian Guyanese shorty
I've seen sierra 3 times first time was cool and 2nd time I ate her ass and pussy it was good too but she refused to give me head smh and then the 3rd time she upped the prices on me smh ss 140 10 minutes? What and then she blocked me LOL yeah its a crying shame how things went from good to worse since 2020 alot of these women work in groups if you guys go to the hotels stay on point stay dangerous and don't show no fear to these to women & their knuckhead pimps. I just hope prices will go down and I get better service again.
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Originally Posted by Popozao
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https://sumosear.ch/images/webpage/u...lable/47720729
The facts:
Her photos are accurate, she's slim and average pretty in the face. She as some skin blemishes on her arms, and thighs, not visible in her photos.
She quoted me (100/150/200) but no extras on the menu.
The experience:
Saw this one on my day off. I met her at her incall spot for a quick session. When she opened the door, she gave off a bored / lethargic energy when I interacted with her. We handle the business, and then we get undressed. I start off lying down on the bed while she gives me a 1-2 minute CBJ, a very low-effort one at that. It's that lazy technique of just gripping the shaft, and only working the head. I asked her to take her hand off, but she replied "I don't deepthroat" and grabbed my tool with her hand after a while. I barely felt anything, and was struggling to get and stay hard through the BJ. Even the visual of how she looked when she was sucking me was kind of a turn off, which I haven't experienced often. I had to close my eyes and visualize someone else just to get excited enough to get to the main business.
So I get up, and then she asks me if I want to hit it from the back, so I tell her I want to her on her back off the edge of the bed so I can hit it from the front while standing comfortably. So I'm piping her, and every few moments, she's giving me this blank, bored expression when we make eye contact, like she's counting down the seconds for me to bust so she can get me out of there. The facial expressions she was making were killing my enthusiasm, so eventually I tell her to turn around after a few minutes so I could hit it from the back. She kept angling her hips too high to make doggy pleasurable, and after a while I lost interest, and pulled out without finishing. She thought I came, but when she noticed the wrapper was empty and that I threw it in the trash, she asked me what was wrong because I had 4 minutes left. I told her I wasn't felling the interaction, since it was very clear to me she really wasn't into it, and that it was killing my mood. Overall, the low-effort CBJ, body language, and facial expressions she was giving off made me not want to finish out the session. As I was getting dressed to leave, she told me she was sorry and to comeback next time, so she could make it up to me. I responded "don't worry about a second time, I'm definitely not coming back", and left. It wasn't the worst session I ever had, but my review doesn't even do justice to how much the little things she did turned me off enough to abandon the session midway through.
3. 5/10, I wouldn't recommend, but if you want to see her that badly, definitely stick to the quick session, as she doesn't do anything special to make want you spend more than 5-10 minutes with her, much less come back for a longer session.
You walked into a sex trafficking situation. That is why the girl didn't seem into it along with some of your other details. This was happening all over the Bronx in 2020-2021. Those groups now operate out of Brooklyn and Queens. Some in hotels others in a house and you walked into a session with one of those trafficked women unfortunately. Based off articles generally the women get beaten if they don't make enough money. And drugged if they don't go along with it. I been there dozens of times in the Bronx.
Here is another person from that group. I will put her ad with the ad of provider you saw. Notice how they are nearly identical ads.
https://sumosear.ch/images/webpage/u...lable/47720729
https://sumosear.ch/images/webpage/u...lable/47730615
There are other ways to find other women that are a part of these types of crews such as their location tag and emoji scheme but won't go into full detail since last time I did the essay thing and giving all the details like I did with this crew below it didn't get a response. So maybe I gave too much information that time. By the way the crew below took a break in posting when one of their providers died of drug overdose last week.
https://sumosear.ch/images/webpage/p...anese/47575345
https://sumosear.ch/images/webpage/c...chick/44910126
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Originally Posted by Popozao
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https://sumosear.ch/images/webpage/u...lable/47720729
The facts:
Her photos are accurate, she's slim and average pretty in the face. She as some skin blemishes on her arms, and thighs, not visible in her photos.
She quoted me (100/150/200) but no extras on the menu.
The experience:
Saw this one on my day off. I met her at her incall spot for a quick session. When she opened the door, she gave off a bored / lethargic energy when I interacted with her. We handle the business, and then we get undressed. I start off lying down on the bed while she gives me a 1-2 minute CBJ, a very low-effort one at that. It's that lazy technique of just gripping the shaft, and only working the head. I asked her to take her hand off, but she replied "I don't deepthroat" and grabbed my tool with her hand after a while. I barely felt anything, and was struggling to get and stay hard through the BJ. Even the visual of how she looked when she was sucking me was kind of a turn off, which I haven't experienced often. I had to close my eyes and visualize someone else just to get excited enough to get to the main business.
So I get up, and then she asks me if I want to hit it from the back, so I tell her I want to her on her back off the edge of the bed so I can hit it from the front while standing comfortably. So I'm piping her, and every few moments, she's giving me this blank, bored expression when we make eye contact, like she's counting down the seconds for me to bust so she can get me out of there. The facial expressions she was making were killing my enthusiasm, so eventually I tell her to turn around after a few minutes so I could hit it from the back. She kept angling her hips too high to make doggy pleasurable, and after a while I lost interest, and pulled out without finishing. She thought I came, but when she noticed the wrapper was empty and that I threw it in the trash, she asked me what was wrong because I had 4 minutes left. I told her I wasn't felling the interaction, since it was very clear to me she really wasn't into it, and that it was killing my mood. Overall, the low-effort CBJ, body language, and facial expressions she was giving off made me not want to finish out the session. As I was getting dressed to leave, she told me she was sorry and to comeback next time, so she could make it up to me. I responded "don't worry about a second time, I'm definitely not coming back", and left. It wasn't the worst session I ever had, but my review doesn't even do justice to how much the little things she did turned me off enough to abandon the session midway through.
3. 5/10, I wouldn't recommend, but if you want to see her that badly, definitely stick to the quick session, as she doesn't do anything special to make want you spend more than 5-10 minutes with her, much less come back for a longer session.
Dang, sorry you had a rough time. Thanks for toftt, but hope you have a better experience with your next excursion.
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Review: Cream (Flatbush, near Tilden ave)
https://sumosear.ch/images/webpage/u...lable/47720729
The facts:
Her photos are accurate, she's slim and average pretty in the face. She as some skin blemishes on her arms, and thighs, not visible in her photos.
She quoted me (100/150/200) but no extras on the menu.
The experience:
Saw this one on my day off. I met her at her incall spot for a quick session. When she opened the door, she gave off a bored / lethargic energy when I interacted with her. We handle the business, and then we get undressed. I start off lying down on the bed while she gives me a 1-2 minute CBJ, a very low-effort one at that. It's that lazy technique of just gripping the shaft, and only working the head. I asked her to take her hand off, but she replied "I don't deepthroat" and grabbed my tool with her hand after a while. I barely felt anything, and was struggling to get and stay hard through the BJ. Even the visual of how she looked when she was sucking me was kind of a turn off, which I haven't experienced often. I had to close my eyes and visualize someone else just to get excited enough to get to the main business.
So I get up, and then she asks me if I want to hit it from the back, so I tell her I want to her on her back off the edge of the bed so I can hit it from the front while standing comfortably. So I'm piping her, and every few moments, she's giving me this blank, bored expression when we make eye contact, like she's counting down the seconds for me to bust so she can get me out of there. The facial expressions she was making were killing my enthusiasm, so eventually I tell her to turn around after a few minutes so I could hit it from the back. She kept angling her hips too high to make doggy pleasurable, and after a while I lost interest, and pulled out without finishing. She thought I came, but when she noticed the wrapper was empty and that I threw it in the trash, she asked me what was wrong because I had 4 minutes left. I told her I wasn't felling the interaction, since it was very clear to me she really wasn't into it, and that it was killing my mood. Overall, the low-effort CBJ, body language, and facial expressions she was giving off made me not want to finish out the session. As I was getting dressed to leave, she told me she was sorry and to comeback next time, so she could make it up to me. I responded "don't worry about a second time, I'm definitely not coming back", and left. It wasn't the worst session I ever had, but my review doesn't even do justice to how much the little things she did turned me off enough to abandon the session midway through.
3. 5/10, I wouldn't recommend, but if you want to see her that badly, definitely stick to the quick session, as she doesn't do anything special to make want you spend more than 5-10 minutes with her, much less come back for a longer session.
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Originally Posted by Popozao
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That chick was probably giving you a sob story to manipulate you into seeing them. I would have at least told her why I stopped being a regular before I blocked her to make it crystal clear.
A lot of these chicks are short-sighted and can't make the connection that their unreasonable rates are why they're losing regulars, and subsequently not making enough money. When providers quote me inflated prices for basic, no-frills service, I usually respond with "You're asking a whole lot for way too little. Thanks though. " and move on. More guys need to let theses chicks know directly why they're being passed on.
Oh trust me I know. She's tried it before and I've always responded with "what do I get out of this?" and always ended up using it to negotiate extras. One time it lead to her offering me GFE for the price of a regular visit another time she let me give a facial for the same. It was a situation where we both got what we wanted. This time I just couldn't and I get where you're coming from but I'm certain that the message was loud and clear. The conversation was going steady and the moment she stated those prices it died with me blocking her number.
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Originally Posted by TrueSilentStar
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Bingo. They have no one to blame but themselves for it either. Had a chick who I used to frequent regularly blow my phone up complaining about how I stopped seeing her and that she's now struggling to pay her rent and has no food. Kind of missing her service I said I'd stop by for a session and asked what her rates were and she said she no longer offers ss and her hh starts at 220. I blocked her number instantly. Didn't even try to negotiate or anything.
If they want to continue making a living in this field MAJORITY of them (I won't say all bc some chicks are actually worth some of those prices) need to take a look in the mirror and be honest with themselves then reflect that in their pricing. Otherwise they will need to come back to reality and grind for a living like most of us do.
That chick was probably giving you a sob story to manipulate you into seeing them. I would have at least told her why I stopped being a regular before I blocked her to make it crystal clear.
A lot of these chicks are short-sighted and can't make the connection that their unreasonable rates are why they're losing regulars, and subsequently not making enough money. When providers quote me inflated prices for basic, no-frills service, I usually respond with "You're asking a whole lot for way too little. Thanks though. " and move on. More guys need to let theses chicks know directly why they're being passed on.
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Originally Posted by Kcdark
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This is a good assessment of things. Providers will have to learn the hard way that like many things there are levels to service and what you should charge. McDonalds burgers are the priced accordingly and would never charge 4-5 star burger prices.
Bingo. They have no one to blame but themselves for it either. Had a chick who I used to frequent regularly blow my phone up complaining about how I stopped seeing her and that she's now struggling to pay her rent and has no food. Kind of missing her service I said I'd stop by for a session and asked what her rates were and she said she no longer offers ss and her hh starts at 220. I blocked her number instantly. Didn't even try to negotiate or anything.
If they want to continue making a living in this field MAJORITY of them (I won't say all bc some chicks are actually worth some of those prices) need to take a look in the mirror and be honest with themselves then reflect that in their pricing. Otherwise they will need to come back to reality and grind for a living like most of us do.
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I was thinking about this one
I was thinking about this one when I'm on my way back from PA.
https://new-york-city.skipthegames.c...y/107045802215
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Originally Posted by Popozao
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This is the crux of the issue, and you couldn't have said it better. They don't know what being competitive on donations and services means. The way a lot of providers operate, they don't even seem to care about building repeat business, just finding a ton of one and done clients.
I think part of the problem is rates are way too public now. Before CL and BP were shut down you generally had to call for rates and a lot of the smaller sites are still that way though a handful post them. But on Tryst and some other places most of the women have them posted. And I think what happening is girls are seeing what other girls are getting (or at least asking for) and raising their rates accordingly and a high price no longer means good service. Using the McDonalds analogy it would be like McDonalds, Shake Shack and a local diner looking at what Peter Luger charges for a burger and assuming that they can get that too. And now you have 4 levels of girls asking for the same money. A great example is a woman I met last fall. She was new and I met her through Switter. Had a fantastic GFE session for $300 with her and based on that figured I'd see her regularly. Contacted her a week or two later and she told me her rate was now $400 and I saw she was advertising on Tryst and PD. Held off on seeing her again because of the increase but kept an eye on her. Shortly after that she was up to $650 and was apparently getting it. Here's the thing. She was a lot of fun but not worth that kind of money. Small bow with an ok face but a great attitude. If she had kept her rates down I would see her a few times a month.
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Pregnant girls
Any info on pregnant girls!
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Originally Posted by Kcdark
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McDonalds burgers are the priced accordingly and would never charge 4-5 star burger prices.
This is the crux of the issue, and you couldn't have said it better. They don't know what being competitive on donations and services means. The way a lot of providers operate, they don't even seem to care about building repeat business, just finding a ton of one and done clients.
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Originally Posted by Popozao
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I know, and that's okay with me. These inflated prices will at some point, probably not anytime soon, result in destruction of demand for the services of the vast majority of providers. Wages for most people are not rising fast enough to keep pace with just the cost of essentials alone (Shelter, energy, food, etc.), borrowing money is getting more expensive, and stocks, and other investment vehicles are losing value rapidly. There's not enough mongers who earn enough money to casually spend $300 for barely average looking BBWs, especially when their rates are in now in the same ballpark as young, slim, providers who are legit baddies. This entire provider economy is a bubble that will pop.
This is a good assessment of things. Providers will have to learn the hard way that like many things there are levels to service and what you should charge. McDonalds burgers are the priced accordingly and would never charge 4-5 star burger prices.
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