Grand Rapids Pugilistic Society

[Comrad]

I agree. It would be best to let the provider know. She may not have symptoms and could continue to unknowingly continue to give it to others.

The way I look at it is if you picked a girl up from a bar you wouldn't know what she has either. The provider may have something and not know it. I had a low volume provider ask me one time if I had an STD screening sheet from the health department? She said that she had one. I said "uh. I don't carry one around with me. ".

[Mike Yepthatsm]

I agree. It would be best to let the provider know. She may not have symptoms and could continue to unknowingly continue to give it to others.

Tell the provider. She may not know.

She may ignore you. She may call you a liar. But at least you tried to give her a heads up.

You could post it on the forum as well.

But here's the bottom line: it's a risk we all take. You can minimize the risk with condoms, but it's part of the hobby.

[Entwood]

You cannot post STD allegations in the forum unless they are substantiated by links to internet accessible public records.

Thank you for that information.

[Wolverines]

You cannot post STD allegations in the forum unless they are substantiated by links to internet accessible public records.

Tell the provider. She may not know.

She may ignore you. She may call you a liar. But at least you tried to give her a heads up.

You could post it on the forum as well.

But here's the bottom line: it's a risk we all take. You can minimize the risk with condoms, but it's part of the hobby.

[Entwood]

Wasn't sure were to post this since it was more of a question that I wanted other people's opinions on but this seem like this the place to ask.

I've been wanting to know for most of the guys on here who have been doing this hobby for a long time.

If you where to catch like a STI / STD from one of your providers. Who is like on your list of goto providers, what would you do?

Do you guys cut them off and stop seeing them? Do you tell them you got something from them?

What would you do? Because I'll admit that I had this happen to me last year and I won't name who it was. But because of that situation I step away from the hobby for awhile now, but have been looking to get back into it but have been hesitant too.

If you could chime in on this, I'd greatly appreciate it, you can pm me if there are things you'd rather keep hidden from people.

Tell the provider. She may not know.

She may ignore you. She may call you a liar. But at least you tried to give her a heads up.

You could post it on the forum as well.

But here's the bottom line: it's a risk we all take. You can minimize the risk with condoms, but it's part of the hobby.

[Charlie441]

Wasn't sure were to post this since it was more of a question that I wanted other people's opinions on but this seem like this the place to ask.

I've been wanting to know for most of the guys on here who have been doing this hobby for a long time.

If you where to catch like a STI / STD from one of your providers. Who is like on your list of goto providers, what would you do?

Do you guys cut them off and stop seeing them? Do you tell them you got something from them?

What would you do? Because I'll admit that I had this happen to me last year and I won't name who it was. But because of that situation I step away from the hobby for awhile now, but have been looking to get back into it but have been hesitant too.

If you could chime in on this, I'd greatly appreciate it, you can pm me if there are things you'd rather keep hidden from people.

If you're obviously going to stop seeing them after them bolting, and also think things through and gauge the situation properly -- yes, going into the bathroom and turning on the bath plugged and keeping the door closed (noise avoidance) is not going to add problems within the situation, but just later on if you don't plan seeing the girl or going to that same place again. I mean, you're not going to hang around there Anyway, right? She made the big mistake leaving you in her room, so obviously that's a dropped ball on her (their) part. Hey, if the pimp / guy in the next room ends up finding out about it, great. He's in that room to stop the bath, and you're leaving. If anything at least, it's a distraction away from you. It's not like the girl who did that wouldn't have stupidly done it herself. .

[KiteRose93]

Wasn't sure were to post this since it was more of a question that I wanted other people's opinions on but this seem like this the place to ask.

I've been wanting to know for most of the guys on here who have been doing this hobby for a long time.

If you where to catch like a STI / STD from one of your providers. Who is like on your list of goto providers, what would you do?

Do you guys cut them off and stop seeing them? Do you tell them you got something from them?

What would you do? Because I'll admit that I had this happen to me last year and I won't name who it was. But because of that situation I step away from the hobby for awhile now, but have been looking to get back into it but have been hesitant too.

If you could chime in on this, I'd greatly appreciate it, you can pm me if there are things you'd rather keep hidden from people.

[Shawtren]

It is so tempting to try and get even for being screwed over. But trust me, most of these characters have nothing to lose and likely will not remember any vengeance after a day anyhow.

(In my best Sheriff Beauford T. Justice voice) That is not to say, however, that you can't think about it! Just don't do it!

I noticed there is a debate going on in another thread. Since this is the place for debate, I will point out that crime is risky business. And if you are upset about a scam, committing a crime to, "get even" not only subjects you to the immediate risk of serious bodily harm, but a substantial legal bill and criminal penalties.

Let's consider the situation at hand. A scammer and her thug were holed up in a dive motel. The girl ripped the guy off. Sucks, I know. He did the smart thing from that point and got himself safely out of further harm's way. While doing that, he was confronted by the thug. Remember the game these characters are playing, the thug most certainly was prepared and ready to bludgeon should that opportunity arise. Thankfully our guy wasn't beaten or worse. I think we can all be thankful for that.

Now come the suggestions. Hey, why not hang around and cause thousands of dollars in property damage, that, by the way, takes quite a bit of time (tubs don't fill in 60 seconds after all). Yet, such action could only be expected to result in serious bodily injury, possible loss of life, and prosecution on a number of charges.

And please remember, most providers, and especially scammers, they are empty bags. The motel isn't going to sue and collect against them, they don't have money, credit, assets, or a job. But you, yeah you might be just the target for them to seek repayment for their losses. Even dirt bag notels are using surveillance cameras to record your face and license plate. This is getting ugly, fast.

Yeah, sure, the fantasy of it all is bemusing. And I'm sure there are examples of robbed guys who have in some way "gotten even". But is that smart? Are you certain you'd like to escalate? Might it be better to cut your losses, share the info with the community, and make amends that way?

I still think it could be very helpful if we heard from RealMe about whether the girl he saw matches the pictures. That would do real damage to the way she conducts her scamming. Shame that has been lost amongst a debate in an information thread.

Be safe guys. And be smart.

[WaltK]

Frank, for your post below I think you should be promoted to the position of Whoreboard General Counsel. The pay is shit but you should feel good that you may have saved a guy or two a lot of trouble; your advice is invaluable. I saw the discussion that you are referring to yesterday, I didn't have time to respond but would have said the same thing.

These hookers and pimps aren't collectible. One of three people will pay for damage; the property owner, their insurance company or the john. The ripped off john doesn't have a beef with the property owner so why fuck them over? If losing a few hundred dollars causes you to want to commit a felony you need to find a new hobby.

Not paying first is great advice but is no guarantee that things won't go wrong. Think of this underworld as a gamble. Some bets are safer than others but you can always lose your bet, you need to be willing to walk away from your losses and not look back.

I noticed there is a debate going on in another thread. Since this is the place for debate, I will point out that crime is risky business. And if you are upset about a scam, committing a crime to, "get even" not only subjects you to the immediate risk of serious bodily harm, but a substantial legal bill and criminal penalties.

Let's consider the situation at hand. A scammer and her thug were holed up in a dive motel. The girl ripped the guy off. Sucks, I know. He did the smart thing from that point and got himself safely out of further harm's way. While doing that, he was confronted by the thug. Remember the game these characters are playing, the thug most certainly was prepared and ready to bludgeon should that opportunity arise. Thankfully our guy wasn't beaten or worse. I think we can all be thankful for that.

Now come the suggestions. Hey, why not hang around and cause thousands of dollars in property damage, that, by the way, takes quite a bit of time (tubs don't fill in 60 seconds after all). Yet, such action could only be expected to result in serious bodily injury, possible loss of life, and prosecution on a number of charges.

And please remember, most providers, and especially scammers, they are empty bags. The motel isn't going to sue and collect against them, they don't have money, credit, assets, or a job. But you, yeah you might be just the target for them to seek repayment for their losses. Even dirt bag notels are using surveillance cameras to record your face and license plate. This is getting ugly, fast.

Yeah, sure, the fantasy of it all is bemusing. And I'm sure there are examples of robbed guys who have in some way "gotten even". But is that smart? Are you certain you'd like to escalate? Might it be better to cut your losses, share the info with the community, and make amends that way?

I still think it could be very helpful if we heard from RealMe about whether the girl he saw matches the pictures. That would do real damage to the way she conducts her scamming. Shame that has been lost amongst a debate in an information thread.

Be safe guys. And be smart.

[Frank Hider]

To be clear, even the cheapest, nastiest notels are using surveillance cameras to record your face and license plate. Providers and thugs do not have a job and money, but you do. So should you choose to punish a scammer by damaging the place, guess who's getting sued and charged?

[Entwood]

I noticed there is a debate going on in another thread. Since this is the place for debate, I will point out that crime is risky business. And if you are upset about a scam, committing a crime to, "get even" not only subjects you to the immediate risk of serious bodily harm, but a substantial legal bill and criminal penalties.
Let's consider the situation at hand. A scammer and her thug were holed up in a dive motel. The girl ripped the guy off. Sucks, I know. He did the smart thing from that point and got himself safely out of further harm's way. While doing that, he was confronted by the thug. Remember the game these characters are playing, the thug most certainly was prepared and ready to bludgeon should that opportunity arise. Thankfully our guy wasn't beaten or worse. I think we can all be thankful for that.

Now come the suggestions. Hey, why not hang around and cause thousands of dollars in property damage, that, by the way, takes quite a bit of time (tubs don't fill in 60 seconds after all). Yet, such action could only be expected to result in serious bodily injury, possible loss of life, and prosecution on a number of charges.

And please remember, most providers, and especially scammers, they are empty bags. The motel isn't going to sue and collect against them, they don't have money, credit, assets, or a job. But you, yeah you might be just the target for them to seek repayment for their losses. Even dirt bag notels are using surveillance cameras to record your face and license plate. This is getting ugly, fast.

Yeah, sure, the fantasy of it all is bemusing. And I'm sure there are examples of robbed guys who have in some way "gotten even". But is that smart? Are you certain you'd like to escalate? Might it be better to cut your losses, share the info with the community, and make amends that way?

I still think it could be very helpful if we heard from RealMe about whether the girl he saw matches the pictures. That would do real damage to the way she conducts her scamming. Shame that has been lost amongst a debate in an information thread.

Be safe guys. And be smart.

Though I've only got a few posts, I've played this game a long, long time.

I've been ripped off before.

It's one of the risks.

That said, in my humble opinion, just walk away and take your loss. There's no good outcome from escalation.

[Benz1]

I noticed there is a debate going on in another thread. Since this is the place for debate, I will point out that crime is risky business. And if you are upset about a scam, committing a crime to, "get even" not only subjects you to the immediate risk of serious bodily harm, but a substantial legal bill and criminal penalties.

Let's consider the situation at hand. A scammer and her thug were holed up in a dive motel. The girl ripped the guy off. Sucks, I know. He did the smart thing from that point and got himself safely out of further harm's way. While doing that, he was confronted by the thug. Remember the game these characters are playing, the thug most certainly was prepared and ready to bludgeon should that opportunity arise. Thankfully our guy wasn't beaten or worse. I think we can all be thankful for that.

Now come the suggestions. Hey, why not hang around and cause thousands of dollars in property damage, that, by the way, takes quite a bit of time (tubs don't fill in 60 seconds after all). Yet, such action could only be expected to result in serious bodily injury, possible loss of life, and prosecution on a number of charges.

Yeah, sure, the fantasy of it all is bemusing. And I'm sure there are examples of robbed guys who have in some way "gotten even". But is that smart? Are you certain you'd like to escalate? Might it be better to cut your losses, share the info with the community, and make amends that way?

I still think it could be very helpful if we heard from RealMe about whether the girl he saw matches the pictures. That would do real damage to the way she conducts her scamming. Shame that has been lost amongst a silly debate in an information thread.

Be safe guys. And be smart.

Thanks for the info.
I've never created any water damage, I always pay at the end of services. If they don't agree to that, I walk out.
Be safe, pay after you receive services

[Frank Hider]

I noticed there is a debate going on in another thread. Since this is the place for debate, I will point out that crime is risky business. And if you are upset about a scam, committing a crime to, "get even" not only subjects you to the immediate risk of serious bodily harm, but a substantial legal bill and criminal penalties.

Let's consider the situation at hand. A scammer and her thug were holed up in a dive motel. The girl ripped the guy off. Sucks, I know. He did the smart thing from that point and got himself safely out of further harm's way. While doing that, he was confronted by the thug. Remember the game these characters are playing, the thug most certainly was prepared and ready to bludgeon should that opportunity arise. Thankfully our guy wasn't beaten or worse. I think we can all be thankful for that.

Now come the suggestions. Hey, why not hang around and cause thousands of dollars in property damage, that, by the way, takes quite a bit of time (tubs don't fill in 60 seconds after all). Yet, such action could only be expected to result in serious bodily injury, possible loss of life, and prosecution on a number of charges.

And please remember, most providers, and especially scammers, they are empty bags. The motel isn't going to sue and collect against them, they don't have money, credit, assets, or a job. But you, yeah you might be just the target for them to seek repayment for their losses. Even dirt bag notels are using surveillance cameras to record your face and license plate. This is getting ugly, fast.

Yeah, sure, the fantasy of it all is bemusing. And I'm sure there are examples of robbed guys who have in some way "gotten even". But is that smart? Are you certain you'd like to escalate? Might it be better to cut your losses, share the info with the community, and make amends that way?

I still think it could be very helpful if we heard from RealMe about whether the girl he saw matches the pictures. That would do real damage to the way she conducts her scamming. Shame that has been lost amongst a debate in an information thread.

Be safe guys. And be smart.

[Gene2]

Yes and, it is, "way too much", not "way to much". Big difference!

But seriously, we are not all looking for the same thing. Some of us want a consistent, predictable HE MASSAGE (not an escort encounter) with a very attractive, young, fit woman. There are not many providers offering that. Some who do, offer it at a reasonable price without variable "tips".

Others are looking for a FS escort encounter in a "massage" parlor or elsewhere, and some of those guys are most interested in mileage, attractiveness be damned. In fact, I understand some of these guys view fugliness as a plus on the hopes she will compensate with effort. In my experience that is sometimes the case, but often not.

That's all fine and good enough. But still, I don't see any call for animosity among any of these groups. People who enjoy things you do not are not dumb, they just are not you. So how about we provide the info we have, and then you can enjoy what you enjoy.

Bang on!

Well said Frank.

One man's stupid financial choice is another man's sound investment. If it were all about cheap. PornHub is free.

Gene.

[Frank Hider]

Thanks for making my case even stronger with your attempted retort.

First of all it's "due respect. " Second math still doesn't work. And third it's "plain" not "plane".

I respect your opinion. I don't share it. So please respect mine and stop calling me stupid. Enjoy your "week" not "weak".

Gene.

Yes and, it is, "way too much", not "way to much". Big difference!

But seriously, we are not all looking for the same thing. Some of us want a consistent, predictable HE MASSAGE (not an escort encounter) with a very attractive, young, fit woman. There are not many providers offering that. Some who do, offer it at a reasonable price without variable "tips".

Others are looking for a FS escort encounter in a "massage" parlor or elsewhere, and some of those guys are most interested in mileage, attractiveness be damned. In fact, I understand some of these guys view fugliness as a plus on the hopes she will compensate with effort. In my experience that is sometimes the case, but often not.

That's all fine and good enough. But still, I don't see any call for animosity among any of these groups. People who enjoy things you do not are not dumb, they just are not you. So how about we provide the info we have, and then you can enjoy what you enjoy.

Bang on!