MotorCity Mayhem

[Concupiscent69]

Those cases merely prove Beyond a Reasonable Doubt that it isn't necessary to cross state lines for this statute to apply.

While there were concomitant trafficking charges, there were CLEARLY separate charges for "Transporting a prostitute" It ISN'T "transporting a prostitute BY A PIMP"
We are all eligible. Not talking simple car dates

OK, I have to chime in now. TT, come on, you cannot be that naïve. Those cases are clearly charges of "operating" escort services involving trafficking, accepting earnings, etc. NONE of that relates to transporting / driving a prostitute in your car. Those charges are stemmed from ongoing investigations and surveillance from stings and intel. There isn't a chance a single person will be charged with anything remotely close to that nor doing 20 years for driving a woman who is deemed a prostitute. Seriously considering letting it go. You're not doing yourself justice with your credibility. .

[Stealth72]

Those cases merely prove Beyond a Reasonable Doubt that it isn't necessary to cross state lines for this statute to apply.

While there were concomitant trafficking charges, there were CLEARLY separate charges for "Transporting a prostitute" It ISN'T "transporting a prostitute BY A PIMP"
We are all eligible. Not talking simple car dates

LOL. You are a complete idiot. Those cases were fucking pimps mostly trafficking minors. None were simply Johns giving a hooker a lift to McDonald's or some shit.

Your initial statement was simply having a known hooker in your car gets you a 20 year trafficking charge, nothing about a minor, collecting proceeds of prostitution, etc. Go on and keep trying to move the goalposts.

Your responses have been hilarious.

[TeeTime69]

Those cases merely prove Beyond a Reasonable Doubt that it isn't necessary to cross state lines for this statute to apply.

While there were concomitant trafficking charges, there were CLEARLY separate charges for "Transporting a prostitute" It ISN'T "transporting a prostitute BY A PIMP"
We are all eligible. Not talking simple car dates

[Stealth72]

Recent cases of transporting a prostitute: People versus Colon, People versus Green.

All transportation was within SE Michigan.

Other charges also filed.

LOL. No links. Of course there are other charges. Dude, no one is getting charged with a 20 year trafficking felony just for having a "known" working girl in their car.

Cut your losses, you are looking really stupid now.

[SlightlyHere]

Recent cases of transporting a prostitute: People versus Colon, People versus Green.

All transportation was within SE Michigan.

Other charges also filed.

A link to a news article would give this statement a little more color and shape. Please post a news article to these two cases or any cases where a john gets 20 years (or any time) for giving a hooker a ride.

It's all bullshit, TeeTime69 just spreading FUD. Gotta quit feeding the trolls.
He wrote that, but SOMEHOW forgot to remember that everyone agreed that Pimps can be charged with this crime... like, duh. He can't show a John being charged with it, grasping at straws... save face TeeTime69 and just straight up post that you're sorry for wasting our time.

Here's Colon
https://bit.ly/2HFJR2k

Here's Green:
https://bit.ly/2SkKAbr

And more.
https://bit.ly/2EHyq9h

Used a URL shortener, b/c copy and paste was messing up the link.

[Good To Go 313]

Recent cases of transporting a prostitute: People versus Colon, People versus Green.

All transportation was within SE Michigan.

Other charges also filed.

A link to a news article would give this statement a little more color and shape. Please post a news article to these two cases or any cases where a john gets 20 years (or any time) for giving a hooker a ride.

[TeeTime69]

Then quit arguing you joke of a position if you think its a dead horse. Just admit you are talking out your butt. Sure they work with cops, but that gets you a solicitation charge. In your mind every car date is a 20 year felony. Absurd.

Recent cases of transporting a prostitute: People versus Colon, People versus Green.

All transportation was within SE Michigan.

Other charges also filed.

[DownRiverRat]

They know the difference between jons & pimps. If your that scared of catching A 20 year felony for picking up some hooker this isn't the hobby for you.

[Stealth72]

And no working girl ever threw a john under the bus to save herself.

Then quit arguing you joke of a position if you think its a dead horse. Just admit you are talking out your butt. Sure they work with cops, but that gets you a solicitation charge. In your mind every car date is a 20 year felony. Absurd.

[TeeTime69]

I hate to tell you. That is a real danger with seeing ANY of these girls for a "date" at all. If you plan on erring on the side of caution and all I would avoid prostitutes in general.

And no working girl ever threw a john under the bus to save herself.

[Stealth72]

Whether true or not, whether conviction is possible or not. I'm going to err on the side of caution. All the other associated issues are more than enough to make a person lose a lot of things. Family, money, car, reputation.

I hate to tell you. That is a real danger with seeing ANY of these girls for a "date" at all. If you plan on erring on the side of caution and all I would avoid prostitutes in general.

[BlackStick41]

You can't show that in the statute.

I'm not saying it's commonly brought to Court but it does give LE a lot of leverage on you. Losing your car might seem a small problem. Got any prior convictions? Is it an election year? You could get convicted, not do much time but lose your 2 A Rights. Going by history might not be smart.

Times are changing. Just ten years ago, who heard of trafficking?

Hey, it's just a risk that can be avoided. Using Uber has to be done with no trail back to you. Decide for yourself

This crime is for Traffickers, not Johns. It says into the state which means bringing girls from out of state to pimp. A john can't be charged with this. Also the maximum penalties are for repeat offenders or repeat felons. This does not apply to the average monger. I'm willing to bet my next check on it, or your next date.

[Stealth72]

Induce is proven in text messages for some. Entice is the cash in your pocket. As far as "OR COMPEL", "or" is a key word. All three words aren't needed. Post your phone number so the guys can call you for bail.

They would charge you with solicitation. And they still have to prove it. Simply giving a girl a ride isn't close to achieving it.

If such bullshit were true, the cops would simply sit in the parking lot across from a hotel and charge John after John with 20 year felonies. They don't because simply giving a girl a ride somewhere isn't a crime sorry. Absurd to suggest otherwise.

[RayLatoole]

Bullshit. There is a high burden of proof to establish. They have to prove intent, coercion. They aren't getting there with a simple "known" prostitute being in your car. I know dealers and pimps that regularly drive girls to their dates and are never hit with that when they are pulled over. At worse you get hit with a possession charge if they ditch shit in your car and won't claim it.

Whether true or not, whether conviction is possible or not. I'm going to err on the side of caution. All the other associated issues are more than enough to make a person lose a lot of things. Family, money, car, reputation.

[TeeTime69]

"the intent and purpose to induce, entice or compel such female person to become a prostitute".

Thats a high burden there to prove.

Induce is proven in text messages for some. Entice is the cash in your pocket. As far as "OR COMPEL", "or" is a key word. All three words aren't needed. Post your phone number so the guys can call you for bail.