Escort Reports

**Mandoo2** · 09-18-20 11:36

Originally Posted by Shinshi86 [View Original Post]

Damn, this is an outstanding post with some very fantastic info which has me all excited for next spring! So huge thanks to you, man!

For years, I thought Tijuana was the North American "Disneyland for hobbyists" (despite never visiting). But now you've convinced me that Canada is where it's at these days! So my fingers are crossed that this COVID craziness starts to fizzle out by next year. Stay safe out there, have fun, and cheers!

I went to Tijuana when I was a kid. Of course, I was with family so I didn't know about that side of Tijuana haha. Looks interesting, but I've heard different things about it. I guess I'll check it out if I ever decide to go back to see my relatives in San Diego.

Montreal has had a reputation of being the sex capital of North America though. Between the strip clubs and the low low prices for escorts compared even with other Canadian cities, it's hard to compete. They also have a porn industry here. Saw a girl who worked in that industry, Gemma Valentine, while she was part time escorting in Toronto and taking classes at one of the local universities. One of my favorite porn stars of all time, Lanny Barby, is from Montreal and is French Canadian. I heard that she used to escort there, but I guess I missed that time and she looks to be long gone from porn and from escorting: She's probably one of the reasons I got interested in seeing French Canadians.

You could see a Montreal-based indy, white girl in her twenties and thirties, marketing herself as a high-end escort, for 500 Canadian dollars for 2 hours, which is a little under $400. Toronto is slightly higher at maybe 550 to 600 ish CAD. Back here in the States, it would be hard to find a Caucasian of similar quality going for less than $400/ hr. One girl, more of a MILF, that I have seen multiple times in Toronto, Julia Jayde or Jayde Fleming, charges about 660 to 700 CAD for 2 hours. She tells me that she actually charges more than $1000 an hour whenever she tours in the States. Based on her reviews and my own experience with her services, I'm pretty sure she's busy if she does visit. Hazard pay, she says ahaha.

**MrSunnyHills** · 09-18-20 08:35

With respect to the ACS, I think there is a mixed bag. For example, the Lily that was so well talked about here some time back. I'm not going to go into great detail but for those of us who have conversed with her a bit, she has bounced around to different AMPs, chose a different "booker", took time off more than once for a family vacation, etc. But undoubtedly there are others who are trapped. And of course the third category (which is common among AMPs) where they are "trapped" in their own desire to make money for back home. I. e. Work 7 days a week, long hours for months, with only an occasional 3 days off to go to NYC. I asked one I got to know who was complaining about slow work and boredom why she wouldn't take a day off now and then and to sightseeing she said "need money for daughter". I for one, if I find I have any premonition that any trafficking is going on will stay as far away as possible and I think many on this board feel the same way.

Originally Posted by SlowBlo [View Original Post]

I doubt any of the Latino or Asian crapshoot women are here on their own accord. They are brought here and moved around from place to place by the people who are running the outfit. That's sex trafficking. That's a Federal crime.

https://www.fbi.gov/investigate/viol...an-trafficking

**Member #6313** · 09-18-20 07:03

Originally Posted by KindGent [View Original Post]

Regarding law enforcement and prostitution or other sex for money offences, you have to remember that State law, not Federal law addresses these issues. That is why you can have legal prostitution with no Federal involvement in some counties in Nevada. Thus, the Feds are only going to get involved in cases where there is trafficking across States lines and in these cases the focus in not on the individual customers nor the women providers but the bosses or organisers.

When it comes to State and local law enforcement, unless they can get a recorded conversation, they generally need a stronger case than just an officer saying that he and the lady in question agreed to exchange sex for money. Otherwise, you just have a "he said she said" situation, and prosecutors and the courts consider this a very flimsy case not worth the effort to move forward with. That is why providers warn prospective customers not mention details on the phone, and AMPs never raise the issue immediately and wait until you are good and naked demonstrating you do not have on a wire. Table showers exist for a reason beyond just nice service.

Remember the Florida State government law enforcement charges against NFL Patriots Owner Robert Kraft for his alleged prostitution activities at an AMP. This only became a case because the police allegedly had recordings of the exchange. However, the courts in general do not like and do not approve broad electronic surveillance against what would be a stream of customers, considering it violation of constitutional protections against unreasonable search and seizures, I. E. Privacy rights. If I remember correctly, Robert Kraft had the courts suppress the surveillance video, effectively beating the charges because the courts ruled that them inadmissible. As a result, just remember state and local law enforcement are very limited in their ability to build prostitution and other sex offence cases against consenting adults which is why you do not see them very often trying to crackdown.

I doubt any of the Latino or Asian crapshoot women are here on their own accord. They are brought here and moved around from place to place by the people who are running the outfit. That's sex trafficking. That's a Federal crime.

https://www.fbi.gov/investigate/viol...an-trafficking

**Bob O Rama** · 09-18-20 00:11

Originally Posted by HotNuts [View Original Post]

No screening, too much screening? What's the middle ground, LOL.

They weren't that bad. Location was nice and clean, and girls were alright, and prices were fairly low. But

No screening means they've pretty much opened their services to LE. By that point, it's no different than busting an AMP by sending undercover LE. At least K-agencies are careful to not allow LE to make appointments with them.

**Start2** · 09-17-20 23:56

Originally Posted by FloorHump422 [View Original Post]

I found this to be an interesting read and as you mentioned, it started with the neighbors.

https://projects.seattletimes.com/20...titution-bust/

Interesting that they found a way to upgrade the routine charges to Felonies.

**HotNuts** · 09-17-20 23:15

Originally Posted by BobORama [View Original Post]

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And finally, LF did NO screening. I was able to get an appointment the same day that I contacted them. I do not recall them asking me for any information.

No screening, too much screening? What's the middle ground, LOL.

They weren't that bad. Location was nice and clean, and girls were alright, and prices were fairly low. But.

**KimBig** · 09-17-20 22:18

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**Bunker Buster** · 09-17-20 20:46

Originally Posted by LuckyLuciano00 [View Original Post]

I HATE nosy neighbors who don't mind their own business. This is how LF got caught. Thanks for sharing.

You can't blame someone for seeing a lot of traffic on his hall coming in and out of one apartment. How does he know if it's an escort agency or a drug dealer, or even a dealer with addicted girls working on site? Once a neighbor sees it, it's been made his business.

Agencies have a responsibility to be discreet so the neighbors don't notice the activity.

If it's busy enough that you notice it during your visit, that's a good reason to stay away.

**LuckyLuciano00** · 09-17-20 20:46

Originally Posted by BobORama [View Original Post]

LF was a poorly-run agency. They would book appointments back-to-back, leaving no leeway for instances of when clients would show up late. As a result, I had to wait 15 minutes in the parking lot after the agreed-upon time. Also, the instructions to the room were very confusing. Instead of telling me the room number, they tried giving me step-by-step directions to the room over the phone. This further added to the delay from the agreed-upon time.

And finally, LF did NO screening. I was able to get an appointment the same day that I contacted them. I do not recall them asking me for any information.

I never visited them again because of such a poor first experience. The girl I saw was very average looking. She even rushed me towards the end, because the next guy was right around the corner (again, due to their poor booking practices). However, it's still a shame that they are not around. Their rate was competitive (it was 200 around the end of 2018), and they had a girl I wanted to see (Michelle), but I never got around to seeing her.

I tried and tried but I never could get verified with LF. They had some nice looking girls but seeing as how they got shut down, it may have been a blessing in disguise.

**Shinshi** · 09-17-20 17:33

Originally Posted by Mandoo2 [View Original Post]

You definitely check out Vancouver area if you're headed to Canada. Nice scenery, lots of selection for escorting if you're into Asians. Rates are pretty competitive with what you can get in the US. Some porn stars are from there.

Toronto had a good selection too. Montreal has one agency from what I remember. I keep going to Toronto. Definitely looking forward to being able to get back. You will have fun in Canada, I'm sure. Your wallet will thank you a bit haha.

Side note, Canada is also good place to rack up escort references for those newer to the hobby. A lot of the indy escorts are also on P411, so it's good for racking up 'OKs" or getting the references needed to vouch to be accepted by P411 in the first place. Cheaper, less invasive checks if any, less worries about law enforcement

Damn, this is an outstanding post with some very fantastic info which has me all excited for next spring! So huge thanks to you, man!

For years, I thought Tijuana was the North American "Disneyland for hobbyists" (despite never visiting). But now you've convinced me that Canada is where it's at these days! So my fingers are crossed that this COVID craziness starts to fizzle out by next year. Stay safe out there, have fun, and cheers!

**ExMikey** · 09-17-20 15:18

Originally Posted by Cba2020 [View Original Post]

Hello. I have read about a lot of your review and I figured I would do the same, my first time reviewing and sharing my experience.

Today, I decided to pay a visit Cari at DS. Her pictures intrigued me and I figured I would try it. Why not. I called and the handler told me that she only sees client for 1 hr+ for $3. 20. It's being a while since I had a work out, so I went for it. And Boy was I happy as soon as I saw her.

She isn't 25, but maybe mid 30's, but her body was amazing and her ass was nice too! Sort of reminded me of Josephine from AG. All her performance was great. From the preview in the shower to the way she rode CG. What I love the most was she rubbing her kitty on JR to the point she almost made me explode a couple of times. Her mouth skills are excellent and she is very nice and friendly.

I will def see her again. Not sure what other details you would like to know. But I'm happy share as you ask

I just saw Cari for the first time too and I agree with all of your comments.

I'll definitely be back to see her as well.

**Bob O Rama** · 09-17-20 14:10

Originally Posted by LuckyLuciano00 [View Original Post]

I HATE nosy neighbors who don't mind their own business. This is how LF got caught. Thanks for sharing.

LF was a poorly-run agency. They would book appointments back-to-back, leaving no leeway for instances of when clients would show up late. As a result, I had to wait 15 minutes in the parking lot after the agreed-upon time. Also, the instructions to the room were very confusing. Instead of telling me the room number, they tried giving me step-by-step directions to the room over the phone. This further added to the delay from the agreed-upon time.

And finally, LF did NO screening. I was able to get an appointment the same day that I contacted them. I do not recall them asking me for any information.

I never visited them again because of such a poor first experience. The girl I saw was very average looking. She even rushed me towards the end, because the next guy was right around the corner (again, due to their poor booking practices). However, it's still a shame that they are not around. Their rate was competitive (it was 200 around the end of 2018), and they had a girl I wanted to see (Michelle), but I never got around to seeing her.

**Bob O Rama** · 09-17-20 13:40

Originally Posted by Shinshi86 [View Original Post]

You just said it: my first guess would be the agency's neighbours wising up to all the increased foot traffic coming in & out. Because some agencies are set up in decent apartments and high-rises, their neighbours are likely well-off and far less forgiving of their community playing host to hobbyists, drugs, petty theft, vandalism, or any other type of crime. I won't give specifics, but avoiding those residents is exactly why a booker provides you detailed instructions prior to your session. And if these instructions are from a reputable agency, you really should follow those instructions to the letter.

As for noise complaints, I'm not so certain that's really an issue--not unless you're practically shredding the girl's innards and having the bed posts rhythmically bang up against the wall, haha! Loud music (sometimes TVs) is the most likely culprit for residential area's noise complaints. But even so, the models I've come across only play chill vibe music, maybe the latest radio hit, right off their phones. Which is hardly loud enough to be a nuisance to even the nosiest of neighbours..

That makes sense that well-off neighbors would be less likely to turn a blind eye than those at a less-than-ideal housing complex (the projects, cheap motels, etc.). While it may be safer if K-agencies did business in those rundown areas, I highly doubt many customers would want to step foot in a place like that. Also, to maintain their more upscale image, they would have to operate out of a more upscale location, which is more prone to nosy neighbors. Double-edged sword.

Originally Posted by FloorHump422 [View Original Post]

I found this to be an interesting read and as you mentioned, it started with the neighbors.

https://projects.seattletimes.com/20...titution-bust/

Thanks for posting this. An excellent read IMO.

Originally Posted by ChineseConJuro [View Original Post]

Thanks for posting this article. It was an informative read. Something that stuck out and the reason for never using an agency:

"Among the emails seized when the websites were taken down by law enforcement in January 2016 were hundreds of pieces of identification submitted with the customers' first request for a "date. " These included photographs of employee badges from Microsoft, Amazon and Boeing, as well as LinkedIn accounts, business letterheads, passports and even family photos..

That just goes to show you: Even if the booker of the K-agency tells you that they delete all personal info after verification, you can never be certain that they will.

**Member #6377** · 09-17-20 13:14

Originally Posted by LuckyLuciano00 [View Original Post]

I HATE nosy neighbors who don't mind their own business. This is how LF got caught. Thanks for sharing.

Thanks for posting this article. It was an informative read. Something that stuck out and the reason for never using an agency:

"Among the emails seized when the websites were taken down by law enforcement in January 2016 were hundreds of pieces of identification submitted with the customers' first request for a "date. " These included photographs of employee badges from Microsoft, Amazon and Boeing, as well as LinkedIn accounts, business letterheads, passports and even family photos. ".

**Mandoo2** · 09-17-20 12:41

Originally Posted by Shinshi86 [View Original Post]

I've actually never seen any providers out in California, despite often visiting each year. Just haven't had the time nor stayed long enough to do so (also explains why I haven't been to Tijuana either). I've heard from others that the Cali K-girl scene is fantastic and far less costly than other areas--though maybe not in Beverly Hills or Hollywood. As for Canada, I might have to make a trip north next year to see what all the fuss is about. Hopefully once things get back to some semblance of normal, I'll check out Toronto or Montreal.

Back when I lived near Atlanta, my fave go-to agency EAA used to charge 220 / hour & 400 / two hours. I have yet to come across such lineup quality at that rate since Lotus Flowerz was in business here (difference being that the latter charged a couple Jackson's extra and they were sadly shut down by LE last fall). Their vetting used to be through P411, so that made things easier for me back then. Couple that agency with my favorite strip club in the US (Follies) situated across town, and you have one very fun hobbyist destination. God, I miss those work trips down there!

220/ hour seems to be a typical rate in the Bay Area, 260 for this one girl, Lina, that I saw with Viola and Friends, but turned out that she's into BBFS, so I didn't mind.

You definitely check out Vancouver area if you're headed to Canada. Nice scenery, lots of selection for escorting if you're into Asians. Rates are pretty competitive with what you can get in the US. Some porn stars are from there. Kianna Dior grew up there and Alyssa Reece did too. She was available for sessioning last year there, but she seems to have gone back to Europe. I was able to session with her for 2 hrs. Pretty decent rate for a porn star too. Wish I knew that I was able to record it:

I missed out on this girl when I was there last year: https://www.daynight.vip/candy-vancouver-escort.

Hoping she's still around when we're allowed to travel to Canada again. Toronto had a good selection too. AsianSexyBabe, barbiehouse69, and MoonwaitingVIP are some of the big ones for kgirls. 300 CAD / hr isn't a bad rate. Montreal has one agency from what I remember, MAE88. https://www.mae88.com/mocha. She looks pretty nice, but I'm always tempted to check out the French Canadian agencies there like Euphoria and EscortsXO. Spending an hour with a college-aged, French Canadian girl with a tight body for 220-250 cad is a pretty good deal. Definitely hoping Heaven from Euphoria is still around. https://www.euphoriagirls.com/heaven. She's been on their roster for the past couple of years, but haven't had a chance to go to Montreal. I keep going to Toronto. Definitely looking forward to being able to get back. You will have fun in Canada, I'm sure. Your wallet will thank you a bit haha.

Side note, Canada is also good place to rack up escort references for those newer to the hobby. A lot of the indy escorts are also on P411, so it's good for racking up 'OKs" or getting the references needed to vouch to be accepted by P411 in the first place. Cheaper, less invasive checks if any, less worries about law enforcement.