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  1. #3386
    Quote Originally Posted by GRBurbank  [View Original Post]
    There was a certain girl that I liked seeing at mce. She looked very attractive and she was really good in bed. She provided the best service I had ever experienced. I would book her every week that I could. One day I got blacklisted from MCE because of something. I admit it was my wrong doing. I removed the cover during doggy and she felt it and she asked me to leave. MCE blacklisted me and sure I was pissed. I got a personal message from Marcus and he said that he would appreciate it if I can provide a full std screening and to cover plan B cost. He explained it was for the peace of mind for the girl. I decided not to do so because I was pissed off. When I think about it, he did bring the girls that were amazing, he did offer me a chance and I didn't take advantage of it. I don't wish him negative results. I guess this business can be a lot sometimes. Girls start feeling As if they are princesses and us mongers don't like rules.

    Luckily some girls go indie and some go to other agencies. I have noticed that some indies do have terrible personality and so no accountability like Arkan said. We will have to survive with what's leftover. I've back Channelled with other mongers and I think Arkan is correct, Marcus has not tried to bring more girls, he hasn't done anything to save his business so the information seems solid. MCE is the last agency in Chicago to bring top quality girls.

    VenmoObelisk don't record people, that's too crazy. Let people be.
    I'm confused, Why where you pissed off that you broke a rule, attempted to go Bareback and possibly put the provider at risk of an STD, and then refused to take a STD Test to give her a peace of mind as you violated her safe space and health. I think any owner of this type of business would easily ban you for risking their employees health and overall continuing being a dick by not owning up to your mistake. A person's safety isn't considering a princess right, but simply a possibly life changing risk they simply don't feel comfortable taking. As a monger myself, I personally choose not to go BareBack for my own safety; I would be equally pissed if the girl took the condom off. Seriously. How in the world do you think you have a right to be pissed when your the aggressor.

  2. #3385

    Pot vs Kettle?

    Quote Originally Posted by GRBurbank  [View Original Post]
    There was a certain girl that I liked seeing at mce. She looked very attractive and she was really good in bed. She provided the best service I had ever experienced. I would book her every week that I could. One day I got blacklisted from MCE because of something. I admit it was my wrong doing. I removed the cover during doggy and she felt it and she asked me to leave. MCE blacklisted me and sure I was pissed.

    VenmoObelisk don't record people, that's too crazy. Let people be.
    While I agree that recording people without their consent is crazy, maybe the guy who barebacked someone without their consent should consider not advising anyone on anything ever, and might want to consider keeping to bareback self-gratification.

  3. #3384

    Concur

    Quote Originally Posted by Honestguyrev  [View Original Post]
    Saw Katherina recently and can confirm with previous reviewer that she has a slight belly. Maybe it wasn't her day, but she seemed mechanical and tired. Positive is she does BBBJ and offers different positions. I would not recommend and rather see others in MA's stable.
    I saw her too and I don't recommend. Saw Chloe but I had a feeling she was recording the session. Something felt off. I don't know if anyone has experienced this with her but she does give me that crazy vibe. Good dick sucker but some wires seem a bit off. Too dangerous for me.

  4. #3383
    Quote Originally Posted by TJGeek  [View Original Post]
    Saw Audrey recently, a new addition to CLM.

    https://www.chicagolandbodyrubs.com/

    I've seen the pictures elsewhere and I don't think they are hers. But, she is a cute GND with energy and fun attitude. I had a rough day so was looking forward to a real massage which she delivered perfectly. On the flip, she asked if she could use her mouth instead of her hands. Who was I to decline that request? A nonrushed BBBJ ensued and I asked about FS but sadly it was the wrong time of the month. So I teased her by playing with her clit while she enjoyed my raw meat in her mouth until we both had an explosive finish. May try to see her again for FS.

    Audry, I changed the date on this review so that it will be at the top of the thread for a month.

    This is what happens when you try to control the content on the forum by twisting guys balls so they don't write about you.

    If you make another fake account here I'll extend this by a month.

    A2
    So what was the issue here? Is this a fake review? Do we have a real review of Audrey?

  5. #3382

    Katherina MA

    Saw Katherina recently and can confirm with previous reviewer that she has a slight belly. Maybe it wasn't her day, but she seemed mechanical and tired. Positive is she does BBBJ and offers different positions. I would not recommend and rather see others in MA's stable.

  6. #3381

    Gossip

    Quote Originally Posted by VenomObelisk  [View Original Post]
    I was once a fan of MCE when they have started. I took a long break using them and this hobby. I had some recollection to do over the years. And now I'm back! MCE had great looking girls and provided a great service, but I stopped using them because I and Marcus didn't get along anymore. We had our ups and downs but at the very end it was down for both of us. I had seen Marcus a few times personally in person, and both times I made sure I have leverage on him just in case. I have recorded our meet ups. From our meet ups, I think Marcus is a cool guy, but what he does with his girls, I'm not sure. For the most part, I think he is liar.

    LipstickonMe and the other handles has nothing what I have on Marcus. - the recordings. There are some truths to what Lipstick and other bs handles are saying and some are not. Clearly Someone has beef with him after reading agency thread that took me a few days to read as I haven't been reading forums or reviews for a long ass time. I don't have beef with Marcus. If I wanted too, I can bring Marcus agency down with what I have on him. I can also bring down his other business, the ones he told me he has in Cali. I had several opportunities to bring him down in the past without the recordings, but I decided not to because Marcus was somehow a compassionate person. Could be genuine or it could have been the money making him compassionate but either way, he helped me out, but the end result wasn't what he had promised.

    From what Arkan wrote, if it's true, I wouldn't want you to be in a depressed state as how I was back then, yet you helped me to a certain extent, and I did really appreciate that Marcus.
    Hello Gents,

    I just re-joined after some time off due to the pandemic. In reality who cares what type of person Marcus is or what he does. It's all gossip. We sound like a sewing group on a Sunday.

  7. #3380

    Thank you Arkan for the 411

    Quote Originally Posted by VenomObelisk  [View Original Post]
    I was once a fan of MCE when they have started. I took a long break using them and this hobbyFrom what Arkan wrote, if it's true, I wouldn't want you to be in a depressed state as how I was back then, yet you helped me to a certain extent, and I did really appreciate that Marcus.
    There was a certain girl that I liked seeing at mce. She looked very attractive and she was really good in bed. She provided the best service I had ever experienced. I would book her every week that I could. One day I got blacklisted from MCE because of something. I admit it was my wrong doing. I removed the cover during doggy and she felt it and she asked me to leave. MCE blacklisted me and sure I was pissed. I got a personal message from Marcus and he said that he would appreciate it if I can provide a full std screening and to cover plan B cost. He explained it was for the peace of mind for the girl. I decided not to do so because I was pissed off. When I think about it, he did bring the girls that were amazing, he did offer me a chance and I didn't take advantage of it. I don't wish him negative results. I guess this business can be a lot sometimes. Girls start feeling As if they are princesses and us mongers don't like rules.

    Luckily some girls go indie and some go to other agencies. I have noticed that some indies do have terrible personality and so no accountability like Arkan said. We will have to survive with what's leftover. I've back Channelled with other mongers and I think Arkan is correct, Marcus has not tried to bring more girls, he hasn't done anything to save his business so the information seems solid. MCE is the last agency in Chicago to bring top quality girls.

    VenmoObelisk don't record people, that's too crazy. Let people be.

  8. #3379

    Agency MCE

    I was once a fan of MCE when they have started. I took a long break using them and this hobby. I had some recollection to do over the years. And now I'm back! MCE had great looking girls and provided a great service, but I stopped using them because I and Marcus didn't get along anymore. We had our ups and downs but at the very end it was down for both of us. I had seen Marcus a few times personally in person, and both times I made sure I have leverage on him just in case. I have recorded our meet ups. From our meet ups, I think Marcus is a cool guy, but what he does with his girls, I'm not sure. For the most part, I think he is liar.

    LipstickonMe and the other handles has nothing what I have on Marcus. - the recordings. There are some truths to what Lipstick and other bs handles are saying and some are not. Clearly Someone has beef with him after reading agency thread that took me a few days to read as I haven't been reading forums or reviews for a long ass time. I don't have beef with Marcus. If I wanted too, I can bring Marcus agency down with what I have on him. I can also bring down his other business, the ones he told me he has in Cali. I had several opportunities to bring him down in the past without the recordings, but I decided not to because Marcus was somehow a compassionate person. Could be genuine or it could have been the money making him compassionate but either way, he helped me out, but the end result wasn't what he had promised.

    From what Arkan wrote, if it's true, I wouldn't want you to be in a depressed state as how I was back then, yet you helped me to a certain extent, and I did really appreciate that Marcus.

  9. #3378

    You need an award

    Quote Originally Posted by Arkan  [View Original Post]
    Been inactive during Covid and just started partaking in the hobby again last week. Seems like the drama and gossip are still at full throttle. I know quite a few of the former and current MCE girls. From what I hear Markus is losing his shit. He suffers from depression and health issues. The decline in business since 2018 (SESTA / FOSTA) started it off. Then Covid has basically ruined him. The girls I know all communicate and are well aware his agency is on it's last legs. He has never advertised even when he was CEC. So the idea he would want to create individual profiles and ads to avoid being in the spotlight is nonsense. His modus operandi was writing fake reviews. Don't see many of those anymore.

    William (Angellis Angels) also was the king of fake reviews. Even William is MIA. Apparently his last court date scared him. He is running out of reasons to continue the delays which he has been doing since the start of his case. He wasn't able to offer any real defense and is basically having to come to terms with his inevitable jail time. Since he is a chain smoker and cocaine addict, his health isn't very good. From what I have heard he is dreading jail because catching Covid in jail is a death sentence for a man of his age and in his condition. However he was just the front man of the organization. The real boss owned KellyCooperGFE.com back in the day. The real owner is watching and waiting for William to go down and then find another front man puppet to install. The dude is really smart.

    Team Chloe and Gustavo (lipstickonme) continue to make posts that have actually contributed to the anxiety and mental decline of Markus. He reads them and starts yelling in his office. The girls have all been looking for other opportunities elsewhere. He doesn't have the mental capacity or energy to go out and hire new talent. If he doesn't want new talent then why would he bother making indie ads for old girls that don't even book well? It would be smarter to hire new talent and then make indie ads. Chloe has contact with some current and former MCE girls. So does Gustavo the disgruntled former client who was so enraged about being blacklisted that he has been on a campaign to destroy Markus. It looks like his campaign worked. A few months ago Gustavo placed Markus on a gossip website called The Dirty. Once that hit Markus had a nervous breakdown and is now on medication which has reduced his mental capacity even further. He also sees a therapist. His girl friend, the one that Chloe hates and talks about in all of her posts has actually left him. This further contributed to his poor health and mental state. The mood in his office is dismal. The notorious booker Andra that everyone hates is moving on to other opportunities and the agency won't last more then a few more weeks if that.
    When I tell you that I'm laughing with tears, I am not exaggerating! Completely platonic. Let me buy you a drink man!

    On a serious note though, this women empowered bs and only fans and sc premiums and sa is getting a bit hectic. I enjoy having it all in one place like a fine dining restaurant but whatever. I got a decent list of favorites I'm verified with, ill be fine for a few months?!

  10. #3377
    Quote Originally Posted by BillFourFree  [View Original Post]
    I saw Kelani today and she is INDEPENDENT! Had a wonderful time with her. She is incredibly hot and sweet. Had such a nice time talking after round one that we never did get to round two, boo!!

    I will see her again and highly recommend!
    How did you become convinced and what proof did you get that she is really independent? Was it just her word or did you get some extra time without the agency calling her that another customer was in the lobby and waiting? I mean this without any sarcasm. From what I've heard from other mongers, she's still with MCE with an "independent" looking website.

  11. #3376
    Regular Member


    Posts: 20

    Agency Drama and Developments

    Been inactive during Covid and just started partaking in the hobby again last week. Seems like the drama and gossip are still at full throttle. I know quite a few of the former and current MCE girls. From what I hear Markus is losing his shit. He suffers from depression and health issues. The decline in business since 2018 (SESTA / FOSTA) started it off. Then Covid has basically ruined him. The girls I know all communicate and are well aware his agency is on it's last legs. He has never advertised even when he was CEC. So the idea he would want to create individual profiles and ads to avoid being in the spotlight is nonsense. His modus operandi was writing fake reviews. Don't see many of those anymore.

    William (Angellis Angels) also was the king of fake reviews. Even William is MIA. Apparently his last court date scared him. He is running out of reasons to continue the delays which he has been doing since the start of his case. He wasn't able to offer any real defense and is basically having to come to terms with his inevitable jail time. Since he is a chain smoker and cocaine addict, his health isn't very good. From what I have heard he is dreading jail because catching Covid in jail is a death sentence for a man of his age and in his condition. However he was just the front man of the organization. The real boss owned KellyCooperGFE.com back in the day. The real owner is watching and waiting for William to go down and then find another front man puppet to install. The dude is really smart.

    Team Chloe and Gustavo (lipstickonme) continue to make posts that have actually contributed to the anxiety and mental decline of Markus. He reads them and starts yelling in his office. The girls have all been looking for other opportunities elsewhere. He doesn't have the mental capacity or energy to go out and hire new talent. If he doesn't want new talent then why would he bother making indie ads for old girls that don't even book well? It would be smarter to hire new talent and then make indie ads. Chloe has contact with some current and former MCE girls. So does Gustavo the disgruntled former client who was so enraged about being blacklisted that he has been on a campaign to destroy Markus. It looks like his campaign worked. A few months ago Gustavo placed Markus on a gossip website called The Dirty. Once that hit Markus had a nervous breakdown and is now on medication which has reduced his mental capacity even further. He also sees a therapist. His girl friend, the one that Chloe hates and talks about in all of her posts has actually left him. This further contributed to his poor health and mental state. The mood in his office is dismal. The notorious booker Andra that everyone hates is moving on to other opportunities and the agency won't last more then a few more weeks if that.

    There is lots of info out there for girls to run their own businesses. Some of the clients have been helping MCE girls transition to indie and the girls have private groups on Whatsapp and Telegram where they all exchange ideas and know-how. There are also forums on Reddit that do the same. One enterprising young prostitute has even set up a consultant agency called Heaux Mentor or something where she charges to help escorts and sugarbabies work effectively and build their brand. Only the girls that have a low IQ level or low ambition are willing to stay at an agency and split profits. So this is a bad time to be an agency owner and Markus I think can understand this. Hence the reason he isn't putting up much a fight trying to save his business. I think he understands not only has the business model changed but he doesn't have the capabilities anymore to keep a sinking ship afloat.

    What does that mean for Chicago mongers? It's not good. Say what you will about MCE and Markus but the level of talent he brought to the market was top notch. The way they did business for the most part was straight forward. If you are busy and make enough money then his agency was the best. No other agency had the same level of talent. Back during it's prime they would bring one or two new amateurs on per week. Some of the best talent to ever get into the business in fact. Now what is left over? Just has beens and worn out hoes that make up the staff of the remaining agencies. Chloe and Gustavo like to make it all about the girls. Well, if the girls hated the working conditions they didn't have to work now did they? They might have disliked Markus but they made the most money under his management. When they ended up getting fired they got to see how things were with William or worse CCG, Michelles, WetnWild, etc. I remember listening to them complain to me about how they made a mistake and wished they didn't quit or get fired.

    What do I see now going forward? It seems the businesses that are doing well are the bodyrub type agencies. Christina's 262 Euro agency, Anita, Norridge Girls (now busted), CLM, and the others. Just look at how Christina at 262 has FIVE locations! She is like a McDonald's franchise! I have seen some of her girls recently. For the most part the experience is really lower quality. Much like McDonald's. A mediocre experience. Now she has even raised prices. Her biggest competitor NG is gone and all of their clients have hopped over to 262. She is bringing in some fairly good looking pros from NYC. Mostly Russians or Russian speaking girls. Her screening process is abysmal and anyone with some smarts can evade her attempts to verify. One of her girls that I know personally made over $2500 on one day alone. And over $10,000 in one week. That is insane. These girls are anything but victims. Some are earning over quarter million dollars tax free. Most don't even have a work permit or legal residency. A very reckless business. However, look at NG. They were doing business for nine years before the Feds bothered to stop them. And if the dumbass would have not used the jail house phone to gossip with his partner on the outside, then even they wouldn't have been shut down.

    Many women are getting into the business via Seeking Arrangements and Onlyfans. Many MCE girls also do onlyfans. Going forward it will be very chaotic and time consuming to get access to top notch pussy. You will need to get screened by dozens of girls. You will need to deal with their BS and unprofessional. Plus there is a nasty feminist SJW vibe going around. If you read their twitter accounts and reddit posts they absolutely HATE men and HATE review boards. They continuously denounce TER and USASG posters as "Slobbyists". They want your money but despise you.

    You won't find 8's, 9's, and 10's on EscortBabylon, STG or the other low end sites. You will find fake pics, drug addicts, and LE though. Tryst has the most ugly looking SJW types of all the advertising sites. The beauty about a good agency is that you can get screened ONCE, and then have access to a nice supply of college girl hotties. If they misbehave then the manager can fire them or warn them they risk getting fired so there is accountability for their actions and performance. With indies they don't care and will just block you or put you on a blacklist. They have so many white knights and Captain-Save-A-Hoe simps that send them money for absolutely nothing.

    With all that being said, there is more selection out there then ever before. It will be harder to access it though. It is even more difficult to find consistency from quality providers. At this time it is impossible to have consistent access to escorts that are 8+ in looks and performance. I think those days are over. MCE was the last of the high end agencies.

  12. #3375

    Kelani. Setting the record straight

    I saw Kelani today and she is INDEPENDENT! Had a wonderful time with her. She is incredibly hot and sweet. Had such a nice time talking after round one that we never did get to round two, boo!!

    I will see her again and highly recommend!

  13. #3374

    My thoughts

    Quote Originally Posted by ColossalNuts  [View Original Post]
    I've noticed that Kelani, Alena and Sabrina- Cristal M all independent have almost the same wording. Can it be Marcus making those independent websites as they don't have a active agency website. What are your ideas?

    If one blacklisted on mce cause being inactive and then can't see these Indi models above, well that explains it. That Marcus is doing those Indi websites and booking.
    I think Sabrina / Cristal M is truly independent. I can see Kelani and Alena being MCE undercover, but if their services / skills do not change I don't see the issue. Marcus is not well liked, but if he provides quality models with super service then it is all good in my world.

  14. #3373

    Former MCE girls

    I've noticed that Kelani, Alena and Sabrina- Cristal M all independent have almost the same wording. Can it be Marcus making those independent websites as they don't have a active agency website. What are your ideas?

    If one blacklisted on mce cause being inactive and then can't see these Indi models above, well that explains it. That Marcus is doing those Indi websites and booking.

  15. #3372
    Quote Originally Posted by MiamiVibe  [View Original Post]
    I did. On her first weeks She performs well but she just seemed as if she was on something. She seemed so high that I felt it was just too much. I don't mind a girl take some drinks or smokes a bit but Amy seemed too intoxicated. I think I rather see Carly, Nikki, Vanessa or Arbella Instead. Those girls are most likely the best options in the state. I don't think there are comparable performers + looks that come close to their Caliber.

    My advice is that you aren't missing out on anything, I wouldn't book her.
    Nikki, Kelani & Carly are the best performers there but if Kelani went Indy I am sure Nikki will follow soon.

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